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VanessaE	Xzyx987X, not sure about a specific program, but the next best thing is to keep a backup of /etc and just restore what you need from it if something gets botched.	12:10
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Xzyx987X	well, a little late for that...	12:11
Mater	lol	12:11
Xzyx987X	I'll keep that in mind once I get this fixed...	12:11
VanessaE	pastebin a copy of your /var/log/Xorg.0.log	12:11
VanessaE	maybe there's a hint there as to what broke	12:11
Xzyx987X	k...	12:11
VanessaE	can you manually startx?	12:12
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VanessaE	(also /var/log/kdm.log might be helpful)	12:12
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Xzyx987X	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29930/	12:13
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VanessaE	ok so at least X starts OK..	12:14
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Xzyx987X	btw, not sure if this is relevant, but when I start x manually with xstart, it starts with a weird refresh rate	12:14
dom	Every OS Sucks: http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/video/ossuckscable.html~content	12:14
Xzyx987X	like, horzontal: 34 vertical: 83	12:14
VanessaE	what's /var/log/kdm.log indicate?	12:15
dom	you can't argue with three dead trolls in a baggie. they know what they're talking about	12:15
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dom	(singing)	12:15
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adolfo	hi, my firefox crashes when i load gmail , what happens ?	12:16
[mX]	has anyone experienced a dead lock when using the install cd? everything gets into kde just fine, and then when I try to do anything (double click install, or just open the kmenu) it stalls out	12:16
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iorek	hey all	12:16
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ubuntu___	hallo	12:16
Xzyx987X	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29931/	12:17
VanessaE	adolfo: start by deactivating all of your extensions and returning to the default firefox theme first. that seems to be the most common cause of FF crashes.	12:17
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Xzyx987X	2160. Fatal server error:	12:17
Xzyx987X	2161. Unrecognized option: -fullscreen	12:17
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Xzyx987X	hmm...	12:17
Xzyx987X	where is it getting that from?	12:17
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iorek	does anybody know - is it through Adept Package Manager that I'm to install the Apache Server?	12:18
LjL	how can you type Unicode codes directly? (like, shifter key + number keys)	12:18
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VanessaE	good question..	12:18
iorek	I know how lame that might sound, but it just says something like "Break Cannot Install"	12:18
teledyn	LjL: printf "\xe2\x82\xac\n"	12:19
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LjL	teledyn: no, not in a shell	12:19
LjL	type	12:19
VanessaE	Xzyx987X, checking...	12:19
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teledyn	LjL: set up xkb option compose on ralt or rwin and look at /usr/lib/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose	12:20
shanden	#no1984	12:20
LjL	teledyn: have that option set i think, but i don't have the file you mention	12:20
teledyn	LjL: yeah it disappeared	12:21
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teledyn	LjL: there's a way to find out	12:22
VanessaE	Xzyx987X, do you see anything under the /etc/kde3/kdm tree?	12:22
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teledyn	LjL: from the keyboard map file, provided you'd selected UTF as your keymap	12:22
VanessaE	maybe grep -r "fullscreen" /etc/kde3/kdm	12:22
VanessaE	see if something comes up	12:22
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Xzyx987X	nothing out of the ordinary	12:23
VanessaE	hrm	12:23
VanessaE	at this point I'd start grepping the whole /etc tree but that can take a bit.	12:23
Xzyx987X	kdmrc had a backup copy in the folder, but it was older than this error by a few days	12:23
teledyn	LjL: i don't know where the symbols mappings are. they moved stuff around	12:24
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LjL	teledyn: ralt+cltr+numbers seem to do something, but doesn't really seem to correspond to ascii codes	12:24
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teledyn	LjL: what characters do you want to input?	12:24
VanessaE	also I see another error in here-- your nvidia driver is broken	12:25
VanessaE	the kernel module didn't load	12:25
teledyn		12:25
LjL	teledyn: right now, CR and LF, but i just want to find out how to output any ASCII/Unicode character by code	12:25
VanessaE	(line 1000)	12:25
LjL	i have accents, i don't need those. i want to type in the codes	12:25
Xzyx987X	that's an old error which I fixed	12:25
VanessaE	Xzyx987X, Ok.	12:26
Xzyx987X	but apparently it wasn't the only one	12:26
Xzyx987X	before I fixed that I couldn't get into kde at all	12:26
LjL	i know that on Windows, RAlt+numpad does ASCII characters	12:26
VanessaE	have you checked the whole /etc tree yet?	12:26
Xzyx987X	did I mention this was the result of a failed attempt to install the alsa codec from source on an amd64 machine?	12:26
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Xzyx987X	I fixed the nvidia problem by reinstalling the drivers	12:27
VanessaE	yeah I saw something about that	12:27
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Xzyx987X	but the rest I can't figure out	12:27
VanessaE	but first we gotta figure out why it's trying to use a switch that isn't even valid.	12:27
teledyn	LjL: wouldn't that depend on the application?	12:27
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Xzyx987X	should it be valid?	12:27
LjL	teledyn: i don't know. on windows, it's a system-wide thing	12:27
teledyn	LjL: how you input them would be different in say OO than in kwrite. they probably both have their own mechanism for inputting them	12:27
VanessaE	Xzyx987X, not according to X it isn't :)	12:28
Xzyx987X	maybe it is a proprietary x feature not in xorg that is implemented in another version	12:28
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VanessaE	doubt it	12:28
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mhz	hey there? anyon using openkiosk ?	12:30
Xzyx987X	well, either way, while you think about the fullscreen thing let me try purging a few packages that are related to alsa	12:30
VanessaE	wait	12:30
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rexbron	hello, is there an option in kmail that would have a reply to ma message automatically sent with the address that it was send to?	12:30
VanessaE	let's try a reconfig of kdm	12:30
teledyn	LjL: S t help!	12:30
LjL	teledyn: i found out it's Alt+numpad (for decimal), and AltGr+numpad (for exadecimals, with keys from numlock to enter being used as A B C D E F) - but only in a Linux VT, not in X	12:30
Xzyx987X	k...	12:30
Xzyx987X	how?	12:30
VanessaE	dpkg --force-confnew --configure kdm	12:31
VanessaE	that might fo it	12:31
VanessaE	do it	12:31
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Xzyx987X	xzyx987x@xzyx987x-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-confnew --configure kdm	12:32
Xzyx987X	dpkg: error processing kdm (--configure):	12:32
Xzyx987X	package kdm is already installed and configured	12:32
Xzyx987X	Errors were encountered while processing:	12:32
Xzyx987X	kdm	12:32
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Xzyx987X	I don't get it...	12:32
VanessaE	ok take off the --configure switch	12:32
Xzyx987X	dpkg: need an action option	12:32
VanessaE	hrm	12:32
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Xzyx987X	I'll try purging the package first	12:33
VanessaE	eh, the alsa packages yeah	12:33
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Xzyx987X_	on my laptop now	12:35
Xzyx987X_	I purget kdm, now I'mma try reinstalling it	12:35
VanessaE	ok	12:35
crusty	hallo everybody... Can i make a question?	12:36
VanessaE	of course, crusty.	12:36
crusty	Ok	12:36
crusty	A part of "Adept Manager" thaere are more package manager that i can use???	12:36
Xzyx987X_	I think it also removerd the kubuntu-desktop package when I did that...	12:37
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VanessaE	sure, there's the command line apt-* tools, or you could use synaptic	12:37
VanessaE	or dselect (ew)	12:37
VanessaE	or aptitude	12:37
VanessaE	one or two others also	12:37
VanessaE	Xzyx987X_, no problem, just reinstall it	12:37
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Jucato	Synaptic, Kynaptic (eww....), KPackage, SMART (not yet available in Ubuntu, I think), apt-get, aptitude	12:37
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crusty	ok! thanks...i will look for it	12:38
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fon_Zograf	People! Be afraid of drivers " ATI - 8.30.3". The system falls! 2 times are checked up. 9800pro... On two different computers but with identical videocards.	12:39
Xzyx987X_	hm... the kubuntu-default-settings package might have worked too...	12:39
africamagical	sooo, why cant i get into efnet	12:39
fon_Zograf	kubuntu 6.10	12:39
africamagical	ident bitching shenanigans or something	12:39
Xzyx987X_	restarting again, brb....	12:39
VanessaE	eh, you're on the lappy, you don't have to leave during reboot ;)	12:40
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Xzyx987X_	yay, it worked ;)	12:40
VanessaE	good deal	12:40
Xzyx987X_	god, finallly	12:41
Xzyx987X_	that only took a good 6 hours...	12:41
sync350	anyone know anything about setting up scanners? im using xsane and running it, but it says no scanner found when my scanner is plugged in... im assuming sane doesn't have the driver for the model (umax astra 4400)... anyone know where i can get this driver (if thats the problem)?	12:41
VanessaE	sometimes fixing a computer is more of an art than a science	12:41
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Xzyx987X_	but I'm still getting a weird refresh rate when I log in	12:42
VanessaE	that part's defined by your /etc/X11/xorg.conf	12:42
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Xzyx987X_	might be the beta driver's fault thoiugh	12:42
VanessaE	the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines	12:42
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Xzyx987X_	I set it to 60.75 in the file	12:42
Xzyx987X_	it started at 36,87	12:42
Xzyx987X_	want to look at the file?	12:43
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ubuntu__	hi, exist an italian channel?	12:43
VanessaE	sure	12:43
VanessaE	odd that it overrode your setting though	12:43
Xzyx987X_	it's what /i set it to on the login scree, it doesn't go weird until I actuakky log in though	12:44
Jucato	!it \| ubuntu__	12:44
ubotu	ubuntu__: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!	12:44
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Xzyx987X_	sorry, laptop keyboard is hard to type on :P	12:44
Xzyx987X_	furthermore, does't kde set up the resolution on a per user basis?	12:45
sync350	anyone know anything about the scanner problem?	12:45
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VanessaE	I think it does, acually	12:45
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jhutchins_wk	I have a via 82c686 onboard sound chip, and when the balance control of the mixer is centered, certain audio can't be heard. Moving the balance controll off center doesn't appear to affect the balance.	12:45
Xzyx987X_	I don't think it uses the default config file	12:45
Xzyx987X_	it overrides it somewhere	12:46
Xzyx987X_	the question is where...	12:46
Xzyx987X_	~/.kde seems a likely place to start...	12:46
VanessaE	My guess is in the broken display settings monitor	12:46
jhutchins_wk	Xzyx987X_: It should default to the X server default, but if you use the display resize widet it will save it somewhere in .kde	12:46
Xzyx987X_	where is that widget again?	12:47
jhutchins_wk	Or if you resize it with kcontrol.	12:47
jhutchins_wk	Xzyx987X_: Not sure where it is, but it's available as an "applet" on the panel.	12:47
jhutchins_wk	(If it's installed.)	12:47
Xzyx987X_	ah, found it	12:47
VanessaE	er, module	12:47
dom	[mX] , almost sounds like bad ram. that or really borked kde settings. did you have pre-existing kde settings before the install?	12:47
Xzyx987X_	yea, it was set to 79hz	12:48
Xzyx987X_	my moniter must not like that :P	12:48
jhutchins_wk	One thing you can always try is to create a new user and see if it works for them.	12:48
jhutchins_wk	You can also kill kdm, move your .kde folder to .kdeback, and restart kdm.	12:48
Xzyx987X_	odd, when I change it's settin it has no effect	12:48
Xzyx987X_	apply does absolutely nothing	12:49
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VanessaE	at the resolution I'm using, my monitor is only good to 75Hz/93kHz on the one, and 85Hz/106.2 kHz on the other	12:49
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Raven301	I'm looking for a Sources List entry to get realplayer. Does anyone have one??	12:49
africamagical	anyone know why azureus doenst sshow up in the status bar when i close	12:49
Raven301	this is for edgy	12:49
africamagical	and yes the correct box to do so is checked	12:49
Xzyx987X_	kinda pointless having an option to configure this stuff wuth the gui when it doesn't work...	12:49
Xzyx987X_	technically, ny moniter's specs say it should onlly do 75hz	12:50
Xzyx987X_	but it can actually do 85	12:50
Xzyx987X_	it's a 21" crt btw ;)	12:50
jhutchins_wk	Xzyx987X_: You may be trying to apply a mode that isn't supported in your x config.	12:51
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VanessaE	pair of 19's here..	12:51
jhutchins_wk	Raven301: I think you have to get real player from Macromedia/Adobe.	12:52
sync350	anyone know anything about setting up scanners? im using xsane and running it, but it says no scanner found when my scanner is plugged in... im assuming sane doesn't have the driver for the model (umax astra 4400)... anyone know where i can get this driver (if thats the problem)?	12:52
Xzyx987X_	possibly... bah, screw it, I'll just overide it in the nvidia driver settings for now and fix it tommorow	12:52
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Raven301	ok thanks jhutchins_wk	12:52
Xzyx987X_	I've had enough of this for now :P	12:52
Lars_G	35 blocks left to go!!!	12:52
VanessaE	at any rate, if memory serves, the broken Display Settings module is where you configure refresh rates and the like within KDE.	12:52
Lars_G	33!!!	12:52
jhutchins_wk	Raven301:	12:52
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jhutchins_wk	!mp3	12:52
Xzyx987X_	anyway, thanks for the help	12:52
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	12:52
VanessaE	what are you doing, copying a 1541 disk? :)	12:52
jhutchins_wk	!mp3 \| Raven301	12:53
ubotu	Raven301: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	12:53
Lars_G	No, downloading blocks that were damaged on the DVD torrent :)	12:53
Raven301	thanks jhutchins_wk	12:53
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Lars_G	26!	12:54
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Lars_G	two days of downloading, almost done!	12:54
jhutchins_wk	Lars_G: We will generously assume that this is a kubuntu install DVD and not some Pie Rate Video thing.	12:55
Lars_G	jhutchins_wk: You assume correclty, It's a kubuty edgy dvd :)	12:55
Lars_G	kubuntu	12:56
Lars_G	emotion makes me typo	12:56
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VanessaE	I opted for the CD instead, figured it would be less bandwidth overall to install a base system and then (after updating sources.list) grab what I need from the server	01:00
jhutchins_wk	VanessaE: That's a pretty good assumption these days with any distro, do a net install instead of downloading the CD.	01:00
VanessaE	(besides, I don't like waiting weeks for a CD to come in over torrent)	01:01
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Lars_G	you're smarter than me, but appart from install I like my DVDs to flaunt stuff at my friends by live load.	01:01
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VanessaE	wtf?	01:01
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jhutchins_wk	Hmmm... Freenode should chatch that..	01:01
eihnat__	ops. sorry, keyboard felt down on the floor	01:02
rexbron	lol	01:02
VanessaE	Lars: nothing wrong with that, if you're doing it for the right reasons of course	01:02
Ropechoborra	Anybody knows why i cant run lauchcam2 (of easycam2) in kubuntu?? it says File "/usr/share/EasyCam2/easycam.py", line 25, in ? import gnome.ui	01:02
rexbron	thought we might be getting flooeded again	01:02
rexbron	hello, is there an option in kmail that would have a reply to ma message automatically sent with the address that it was send to?	01:02
Lars_G	eihnat__: And your irc client sends automatically when maximum length is reached?	01:02
eihnat__	:)	01:02
eihnat__	dont know. it just felt down upside down. and started to type	01:03
eihnat__	lol	01:03
Lars_G	heh	01:03
eihnat__	had to pick it up when seen what mess i made.	01:03
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caleb	hello everyone!	01:05
letalis	hi	01:05
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Lars_G	we're everyone now	01:05
caleb	Trying to ditch WinXp except where I have to use it (work and since I have to do VBScript at work, I will probably have to hold onto it at home for awhile)	01:05
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Lars_G	:)	01:06
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caleb	Anyways, checking the FAQ before I ask my question :)	01:06
Lars_G	:D	01:06
redleader	can anyone here help me? I'm attempting to add packages to my fresh 6.1 install, but the package manager gives me an error when I try and open it	01:07
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VanessaE	red: what error, exactly?	01:08
VanessaE	you run it with kdesu adept_manager right?	01:08
redleader	I just tried to open it from the GUI	01:09
redleader	it says the APT database couldnt be opened	01:09
Jucato	!adpet crash fix \| redleader	01:09
redleader	may be caused by incorrect APT config or similar issue	01:09
Jucato	ubotu: ping	01:09
ubotu	ping: connection timeout	01:09
Jucato	!adept crash fix \| redleader	01:09
ubotu	redleader: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'	01:09
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Jucato	dang! I always misspell Adept...	01:10
redleader	then just open it again?	01:10
Jucato	yes	01:10
redleader	no, same error	01:11
redleader	it says to try running apt-setup and apt-get update and see if it resolves the issue	01:12
redleader	I tried to run apt-setup, but it says theres no such command	01:12
VanessaE	you don't already have something else running do you? (synaptic, dselect, aptitude?)	01:12
redleader	I dont even know what those things are	01:12
redleader	so I'm assuming not	01:12
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redleader	all I've got open is konq, this and kopete	01:12
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VanessaE	hrm	01:13
VanessaE	wait...	01:13
Jucato	redleader: did you try the commands that was given to you? (sudo dpkg --configure -a)	01:13
redleader	yea, I did	01:13
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redleader	wait, were those multiple commands?	01:13
hazard	what you find the little R2 beeping nose absoloutley halarious when a missile is fired at you? (in the original 3d xwing game)	01:13
redleader	well, hilarious or really annoying	01:14
redleader	either or	01:14
hazard	lol	01:14
Jucato	redleader: yeah 2 commands actually	01:14
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redleader	yea, I see that now	01:15
redleader	said dpkg unknown option	01:15
redleader	is it supposed to be -a'	01:15
Jucato	yes	01:15
Jucato	sudo dpkg --configure -a	01:15
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redleader	same problem	01:17
danny500	#firefox	01:17
redleader	is there anyway to just edit the sources.list file?	01:17
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redleader	the thingy in /etc/apt	01:17
VanessaE	sure, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list	01:17
VanessaE	(in the terminal)	01:18
caleb	ok serched the FAQ and couldn't find my answer... is there a way to turn down the sensitivity (NOT the acceleration) or my mouse? At low speeds it is just WAY too twitchy. I have a Logitech MX1000	01:18
caleb	or = on	01:18
Jucato	caleb: System Settings -> Mouse -> Advanced tab?	01:18
redleader	and what is the actual url of the universe repository?	01:19
VanessaE	red: it's already in the sources.list	01:19
redleader	wait, I can just uncomment 2 lines	01:19
redleader	awesome	01:19
VanessaE	about half-way down	01:19
redleader	thanks for the help!	01:20
Jucato	!components \| redleader	01:20
ubotu	redleader: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	01:20
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redleader	aha, I was looking for some info like that, couldnt find it	01:21
redleader	man... using linux for the first time makes me realize how little I actually know	01:21
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VanessaE	well in reality, Windows would be the same way	01:25
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VanessaE	if you've never used it before, you can make a real mess of things, you know?	01:25
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redleader	yea, so I've been told	01:26
redleader	so I'm attempting to be cautious	01:26
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redleader	which is kind of hard for someone whos used to configuring things in seconds	01:26
VanessaE	nod	01:28
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VanessaE	at least linux is getting better about these things.	01:28
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caleb	sorry I ended up on an extended afk right after I asked my question, let me read back :)	01:29
VanessaE	ok time to run...Jeopardy is on. :)	01:29
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caleb	jucato: I checked system settings, mouse, advanced.... saw controls for mouse accel but not sensitivity, though I just found a way to get some more functionality out of my mx1000 so let me re-load OS so I can see effects	01:30
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Admiral_Chicago	caleb: just restart X	01:31
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Admiral_Chicago	Jucato: crtl alt backspace?	01:31
Admiral_Chicago	no need to reboot	01:31
Jucato	yes	01:31
Admiral_Chicago	hey are you a Ubuntu member?	01:32
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Jucato	?	01:32
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Admiral_Chicago	obviously not	01:33
Admiral_Chicago	!member	01:33
ubotu	Want to become an Ubuntu member? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember	01:33
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Jucato	Admiral_Chicago: no. I haven't signed the CoC if that's what you mean	01:33
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Admiral_Chicago	Jucato: there is more to it, a Ubuntu member is a member who contributes significantly to the community and is officially recognized as a member by communtiy council (including sabdfl) but meet me in #kubuntu-offtopic for more	01:35
Jucato	#kubuntu-offtopic	01:36
Jucato	lol	01:36
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caleb	ok back, guess my changes didn't work because I had to go back through command prompt and restore xorg.conf :)	01:38
caleb	Ok so under System Settings, Keyboard & Mouse, there should be a sensitivity setting (NOT acceleration) I'm fine with how fast it moves across the screen normally, but it's twitchy at low speeds (mx1000)	01:40
caleb	?	01:40
Admiral_Chicago	caleb: are you running anything like XGL/beryl?	01:40
caleb	doesn't sound familiar but it could have been installed, what's the quick way to check?	01:40
Jucato	I didn't know that sensitivity wasn't there. I'm not sure if all mice have sensitivity settings...	01:41
Admiral_Chicago	caleb:	01:41
Admiral_Chicago	you probably don't have it	01:41
Admiral_Chicago	from command line compiz --replace dbus csm	01:42
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caleb	command not found	01:43
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caleb	Admiral_Chicago: bash: compiz: command not found	01:45
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Admiral_Chicago	caleb: then you don't have it	01:46
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knight	hi all	01:46
beemer	evening all - anyone familiar with a biostart nf61vm2 motherboard?	01:47
knight	I just installed knetwork manager	01:47
knight	on my laptop	01:47
hazard	who would I change the screen resolution from the command line?	01:47
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knight	and it does not detect the network interfaces	01:47
caleb	ok so I need to apt-get it?	01:47
caleb	or just a package installer like adept?	01:48
knight	I am having problems with knetworkmanager	01:49
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knight	hi all	01:50
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Mez	knight, be patient, a lot of people are asleep at this point	01:57
knight	lol	01:57
knight	ok	01:57
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basstich	Hello to all - I would like some help solving a print setup problem that is driving me nuts...	01:59
basstich	My system settings launches, but when I select printers, the screen clears, and no printer setup scren shows up.	02:00
OOD	hazard: xrandr -s widthxheight	02:01
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hazard	actually, just using the screen settings works too	02:02
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hazard	(like xrandr -s 0-whatever)	02:03
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hazard	and now starcraft works! =)	02:03
dalbirdy1	hey guys how do I set up the extrat keyboard buttons usng edgy?	02:03
basstich	anyone a systems settings guru here?	02:03
Zaire	ummm anyone in here know how to setup the stuff for getting xgl cause Im not sure what entirely to do with the sources list here	02:03
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basstich	how can you 'repair' system settings.... anyone?	02:06
Jucato	basstich: what's the problem?	02:06
basstich	jucato -	02:07
basstich	When I selet a printer on systems settings... nothing happens	02:07
basstich	I have the printer working in ubuntu	02:08
Zaire	!xgl	02:08
ubotu	Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems	02:08
basstich	but nothing shows up for setting up printers in kubuntu	02:08
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basstich	pm, jucato?	02:09
inteliwasp	i am trying to install dapper on my desktop with an ati card, but when X starts, it just goes to a black screen and if i try to go to a console the monitor does it's "out of sync" message	02:10
Jucato	basstich: ah sorry, don't know stuff about printers. I thought it was something about System Settings...	02:10
basstich	jucato	02:10
basstich	no prob - my system settings won't let me start printers	02:11
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OOD	hazard: yea that works too :)	02:11
bLaZeD	can anyone tell me how i get the uuid of a device...its a command i cant find	02:12
basstich	how do you repair the system settings program?	02:12
bLaZeD	!fstab	02:12
ubotu	The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions	02:12
bLaZeD	!partitions	02:13
ubotu	Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted - Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs") - Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks	02:13
basstich	!system settings	02:13
danny500	!libc	02:14
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about libc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:14
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danny500	darn	02:14
basstich	!printers	02:14
ubotu	Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows	02:14
danny500	does anyone here know how to erase a word from the built in spellchecker in firefox2?	02:15
beemer	evening all - anyone familiar with a biostar nf61vm2 motherboard?	02:15
pcnerd37	Hello. Im hoping somebody can help me with some wireless issues im having with 6.10. I am running the live disk on my Thinkpad T60p before I install it and i cant figure out how to get on my wireless network that uses WPA security instead of WEP. Can somebody tell me what to do or point me in the right direction?	02:15
danny500	should I just go into the code and manually change it?	02:15
Jucato	danny500: maybe in #firefox (if there's a channel like that)?	02:16
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danny500	I'm in that room already but no one knows	02:16
danny500	lol	02:16
Jucato	O_O	02:16
danny500	thats quit ironic	02:16
Jucato	yeah	02:16
Jucato	good luck in finding someone in here who does... :(	02:17
danny500	mozilla put the option to add words but not delete words, pretty dumn	02:17
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danny500	ok, I went into the code and fixed it	02:18
danny500	nm	02:18
danny500	nother question though	02:18
Jucato	the source code?	02:18
danny500	yeah	02:18
pcnerd37	an anybody help me with my wireless issue??? ^^	02:19
danny500	to install flashplayer 9, do I just swap the libflashplayer.so from flash 7 with the flash 9?	02:19
Jucato	or you could...	02:19
Jucato	!flash 9 \| danny500	02:19
ubotu	danny500: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html	02:19
inteliwasp	i am trying to install dapper on my desktop with an ati card, but when X starts, it just goes to a black screen and if i try to go to a console the monitor does it's "out of sync" message	02:20
danny500	I already downloaded it	02:20
danny500	I just need to get it working	02:20
danny500	but what I said will work though right	02:20
Jucato	probably. I installed using the repo... so...	02:20
danny500	the what?	02:20
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pcnerd37	anybody?	02:21
Jucato	the repo from that link given above (seveas.imbrandon.com)	02:21
Jucato	pcnerd37: sorry, don't know wireless....	02:21
danny500	oh ok	02:21
pcnerd37	thanks anyway Jucato, i will ask later, im going to run and go get dinner and worry about it after then	02:21
danny500	what is edgy for?	02:22
danny500	is it an OS?	02:22
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Jucato	danny500: current Kubuntu release/version	02:23
Jucato	!edgy	02:23
ubotu	Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)	02:23
Jucato	danny500: but there's a repo for Dapper in that page	02:23
danny500	oh I have Ubuntu Dapper (6.06 LTS) is edgy better then that?	02:24
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Jucato	in some ways yes, in some ways no. :)	02:24
Jucato	a lot of the stuff in Edgy are new, and some are quite... um... edgy	02:24
inteliwasp	can anyone help me with my video problems?	02:24
danny500	lol	02:25
danny500	which one would you say is more stable right now?	02:25
Jucato	Dapper LTS defnitely	02:25
danny500	the one I have or edgy?	02:25
inteliwasp	6.06	02:25
danny500	o	02:26
Jucato	and Dapper is meant to be stable for a loooong time	02:26
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danny500	so I should stick with the one I got then	02:26
Jucato	well, depends on your taste :)	02:26
danny500	I don't care what the OS looks like, as long as it's fast, reliable and easy to use.	02:27
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danny500	so edgy is just more graphical then right	02:27
danny500	better looking	02:27
Jucato	they're both graphical	02:27
danny500	I mean better looking	02:28
Jucato	hm... I think the artwork is better. but it's really different (different colors)	02:28
Jucato	you could go check the screenshots	02:28
danny500	o ok	02:28
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danny500	don't look any different to me	02:30
danny500	oh well who cares	02:30
Jucato	danny500: the color scheme is now purplish blue for one	02:30
danny500	does anyone here have gmail?	02:30
Jucato	yes?	02:30
danny500	brb	02:31
danny500	send me an invite at danieldewitt_75@hotmail.com ok please	02:31
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danny500	cause thats the only way in	02:32
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esaym	i got gmail	02:32
Lars_G	I give up	02:32
Lars_G	no matter how much I check and recheck the dvd there are still files with errors	02:32
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esaym	is #ubuntu down?	02:32
Lars_G	and if I add the apt repos, it will pull EVERYTHING from the repos instead of the DVD.	02:33
Lars_G	It should pull from the dvd, and if it's missing or broken, then pull from repo :'(	02:33
Lars_G	If only I could use aptitude to dist-upgrade	02:33
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Lars_G	danny500: do you still want an invite?	02:34
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Lars_G	I wonder what I'll get back for an invite	02:34
Lars_G	;)	02:34
Jucato	danny500: sent you one	02:35
Lars_G	Jucato: You seem smart... hell you can write and read!!! don't you know how to produce the effect I wish?	02:35
Lars_G	Jucato: Which is to have apt pull all the files it can for dist-upgrade from the dvd, and only if one is missing or broken (damaged md5) then pull from online repos?	02:35
Jucato	Lars_G: um.. what were you trying to do again? (sorry I must have missed it)	02:35
Jucato	ah that I wouldn't know...	02:35
Lars_G	Else, and if wget is right, I have 6 hours of dist-upgrade ahead of me	02:36
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Jucato	I haven't tried using a CD/DVD apt...	02:36
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Lars_G	Ok, thanks anyhow man	02:36
danny500	thanx Jucato	02:36
Lars_G	danny500: I sent you one too	02:36
Jucato	danny500: you received it?	02:36
Lars_G	danny500: Now you can oppen two directions	02:36
Jucato	Lars_G: O_O	02:36
Jucato	lol	02:36
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danny500	hold on I'll check	02:36
campbch	anyone know how to get wine to recognize multiple disks on installation?	02:36
Lars_G	Jucato: I sent it before you said you sent one :P	02:36
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Jucato	hehe I sent it before I even said it :)	02:37
danny500	man ff2 is way to cool	02:37
Lars_G	danny500: Yes it is.	02:37
Lars_G	I've been using it since beta 1	02:37
Lars_G	:D	02:37
Lars_G	And I would've checked it out before, but I had no time to pull and compile	02:37
Lars_G	Jucato: And I tought you where smart :)	02:37
esaym	no one knows if #ubuntu is down?	02:37
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Lars_G	esaym: define down	02:38
inteliwasp	or mine...	02:38
campbch	anyone know if there is a way to find out how to get wine to recognize multiple disks on install?	02:38
Lars_G	esaym: It's very RARE for a single channel on IRC to be "down" given the way irc works.	02:38
Lars_G	esaym: Btw I just checked and it's not "down" here	02:38
Lars_G	campbch: rephrase	02:38
Lars_G	inteliwasp: repeat	02:38
Lars_G	everybody else. Help me now! :P I demmand it	02:38
inteliwasp	i cant start xmms since upgrading to edgy	02:39
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OOD	so many games are broken in edgy because of SDL	02:39
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Hawkwind	campbch: Have you tried asking in #WineHQ ?	02:39
campbch	hmm? i'm trying to find out how to get wine to recognize disk two; it says z:/media/cdrom0, but it says it can't find it	02:40
campbch	thats the answer i was looking for :D i thought it was just #wine	02:40
OOD	campbch: what do you mean?	02:40
Lars_G	OOD: sdl is broken in edgy?	02:40
Lars_G	inteliwasp: What happens when you try to start it? from the command line?	02:41
esaym	well crap	02:41
Hawkwind	campbch: For future references: /msg chanserv list search-term Use the *'s and you can search for whatever channel you want	02:41
campbch	ahh nice :D	02:41
OOD	considering several games dont work and one game has completely white textures, yes its pretty broken	02:41
inteliwasp	Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)	02:41
inteliwasp	serial 2454 error_code 8 request_code 72 minor_code 0	02:41
Lars_G	Hawkwind: That's usefull	02:41
danny500	Jucato whats your gmail address? I'll add you	02:41
danny500	wait never mind	02:41
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danny500	got it	02:41
Jucato	danny500: I sent you an invite. shouldn't it be there?	02:41
Lars_G	danny500: No need, when you get an invite, he lands in your contact list, and you land on his	02:41
Jucato	:)	02:42
inteliwasp	Lars_G: and it says no joystick, but i think i can fix that...	02:42
Lars_G	inteliwasp: Damn, no idea man, sorry	02:42
OOD	does anyone here have edgy installed?	02:42
Lars_G	OOD: I'm trying, beleive me, I'm trying	02:42
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OOD	does anyone here have a working edgy installed?	02:43
inteliwasp	i do tho... kinda....	02:43
Lars_G	OOD: Do we get more credit for answering in stages?	02:43
OOD	would you be able to install and run neverball and tell if it has all white textures in game?	02:43
OOD	lol	02:43
campbch	:(	02:44
Lars_G	hmmm	02:44
campbch	noone in winehq is active	02:44
Lars_G	Not until I finish installing, sorry	02:44
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campbch	anyways, to clarify, it states that it needs the second cd, but says that the setup file does not exist on any mount points for the disk?	02:44
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[cf] nightrid3r	!divx	02:45
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	02:45
OOD	inteliwasp: all you'd need is any card with 3d acceleration available :P	02:45
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Hawkwind	!gnewsense > Hawkwind	02:45
inteliwasp	OOD: i have tried, but ati just sucks for drivers	02:45
OOD	campbch: are you trying to install a game or program from multiple cds?	02:46
Lars_G	campbch: You'll have to unmount, change CDs and remount. it's not easy with wine, but it's doable	02:46
campbch	yes	02:46
OOD	inteliwasp: yeah, hopefully AMD will get ATi to work harder on the linux drivers	02:47
campbch	the command is mount? ill man it	02:47
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Lars_G	as an end user man "pmount" and "pumount"	02:47
campbch	how do i view mounted devices?	02:48
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inteliwasp	OOD: my video card om my laptop is crap anyway,,, generic cheepie and shared mem	02:48
campbch	it says /dev/hdb is not mounted? i thought that was the one it was using for cds	02:48
Lars_G	campbch: "mount" with nothing else	02:48
OOD	inteliwasp: i was just needing someone to test the game to see if im not the only one with SDL problems, but thanks anyway :)	02:49
campbch	... ... which is the cdrom?	02:50
campbch	and how do i know which to mount once it's unmounted?	02:50
Lars_G	your cdrom is possibly mounted at /media/cdrom	02:50
Lars_G	or /media/cdrom0	02:50
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Lars_G	once you "pumount /media/cdrom0" you can try "pmount /dev/cdrom"	02:50
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campbch	ok, /dev/cdrom is not mounted	02:51
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esaym	anyone know how to disable the syslog?	02:52
esaym	i dont like all the hd access it causes	02:52
esaym	also daemon.log	02:52
campbch	it's still not working :(	02:53
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OOD	campbch: i think you're making this more complicated than it has to be	02:53
OOD	run winecfg and autodetect in the drives tab	02:53
OOD	insert the first cd, you'll get a popup to mount	02:54
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OOD	then navigate to the directory where its mounted (probably /media/cdrom) and run the app	02:54
campbch	alright, that helps	02:54
OOD	then when you're done with the first cd run wine eject	02:54
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OOD	then repeat the procedure with the second cd :)	02:55
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bomber	is there a program like xtart for kubuntu	02:56
OOD	what is xtart?	02:56
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campbch	:( i think you're misunderstanding me	02:56
campbch	i'm already past the first cd	02:57
campbch	it detected it	02:57
campbch	and now i need the second cd	02:57
Lars_G	read what he said	02:57
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Lars_G	it will help you	02:57
bomber	it a window manager ... manager	02:57
Jucato	window manager manager?	02:57
campbch	i'm confident i could go to the second cd .exe and start it, but it needs to be done from within the installer. the installer references things through a windows file system; eg, X:/SOMETHING and will NOT access the cdrom after it has changed.	02:58
bomber	allows to start different window managers from a menu.... kde, afterstep, blackbox and suck	02:58
bomber	woops... such	02:58
bitmess	i tried to reload windows and now i can't boot kubantu. it just boos windows now. how can i get my kubuntu back?	02:58
azriel	you can do that from kdm	02:58
Jucato	bomber: if you install a new window manager or desktop environment, you can logout and choose the Session from the menu	02:58
OOD	bomber: i think that can easily be done in terminal, dont know the command though	02:58
campbch	bitmess: windows overwrites everything... you need to install it and then install kubuntu	02:59
bomber	i dont run kdm... i boot into text mode	02:59
campbch	:(	02:59
Jucato	ah that's the problem then...	02:59
Jucato	hm..	02:59
Lars_G	bitmess: you need to start from a livecd and reload your bootloader (grub or lilo) on the mbr	02:59
Jucato	!grub	02:59
ubotu	grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	02:59
Jucato	bitmess: ^^^^^^	02:59
bitmess	it's too late for that can i make grub boot my kubuntu again?	02:59
CVirus	bomber: just kill your current window manager .. and start the required one	02:59
Lars_G	bitmess: If it's windows XP and you don't want to damage it, then you'd need to reconfig the windows bootloader to load ubuntu instead	03:00
Jucato	!grub \| bitmess	03:00
ubotu	bitmess: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	03:00
CVirus	bomber: for example ... killall kwin	03:00
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bomber	well i have enlightenment and when i logout and try to run it i get an error	03:01
bitmess	how can i config windows bootloader to boot kubuntu?	03:01
CVirus	bomber: sorry ... cant help you as I dont know the error yet	03:01
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bomber	ok let me get right back	03:01
CVirus	bitmess: I beleive you cant do that	03:01
Jucato	bitmess: you can't	03:01
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Jucato	afaik	03:01
campbch	ok, i got it, but it frozed... owell...	03:01
OOD	you can do it	03:02
Jucato	bitmess: why don't you follow the links that was given to you?	03:02
OOD	its possible, but a waste of time	03:02
CVirus	bitmess: you could re-install grub ... read the links Jucato already gave you	03:02
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bitmess	thanks, i'm going to read now.	03:03
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declan	Hi, I'm having a problem using apt. Its locked up but I can't tell what process is using it? What do I need to keep open in ksysguard?	03:07
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Jucato	!adept crash fix \| declan	03:07
ubotu	declan: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'	03:07
Jucato	declan: Ctrl+Esc opens ksysguard	03:07
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campbch	why's it say device is busy when i try to unmount my cd?	03:07
declan	thanks guys, I'll try that!	03:07
Hawkwind	campbch: Are you in the directory you mounted it to ?	03:08
campbch	i type pumount /dev/cdrom, and it says device is busy?	03:08
Hawkwind	campbch: Are you in the directory you mounted it to ?	03:08
OOD	campbch: run wine eject	03:08
campbch	...	03:08
Hawkwind	You don't umount the /dev/ device	03:08
Hawkwind	campbch: You umount /mnt/some-mount-point	03:09
Zaire	has anyone else been able to get a dual boot with kubuntu and XP cause my kubuntu keeps fragging XP	03:09
Jucato	or /media/mount-point	03:09
campbch	ok, /media/cdrom0 is busy	03:09
Hawkwind	campbch: Is your terminal or konqueror in that directory ?	03:09
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campbch	it is in media	03:10
campbch	i am looking at cdrom0	03:10
Hawkwind	campbch: Then that's why	03:10
campbch	in sl	03:10
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Hawkwind	campbch: cd ~/ and then do it	03:10
campbch	i went there after you asked	03:10
campbch	i was in home	03:10
campbch	when i did it the first time	03:10
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OOD	campbch: have you tried wine eject in terminal?	03:11
campbch	yes	03:11
azriel	Zaire does grub have an entry for xp and it just doesnt work or what?	03:11
campbch	it says language not detected, something or other	03:11
Zaire	it has an entry but I get a blue screen of death when I try to load XP	03:11
campbch	and then no cd rom drive detected	03:11
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CVirus	campbch: try to force the un-mount operation with the -f argument	03:12
azriel	Zaire did you resize the xp partition or something possibly since it was installed?	03:12
Zaire	nope	03:12
paty	http://secreto2006.obolog.com	03:12
campbch	ok, it was lazy	03:13
azriel	i'd check the /boot/grub/menu.lst file and make sure the entry for xp is correct	03:13
campbch	got it ;D thanks	03:13
Zaire	it is...XP goes into initial loading process then bam hits blue brick wall of death	03:13
Hawkwind	paty: Why are you posting that ?	03:14
azriel	sorry havent had that one happen to me before so cant be any help there	03:14
paty	because is a god blog. Cool. That's all. Thanks. Bye.	03:15
Kr4t05	I'm trying to make a podcast with Skype and Audacity. When I try to record with Audacity, it complains because my sound card is busy (with Skype). How can I forward my audio input to a pseudo-device that Audacity will accept?	03:15
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bomber	hey Hawkwind... do you know of a program like xtart for kubuntu?	03:15
paty	my english is not the best sorry	03:15
paty	by and nice to meet you	03:16
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OOD	Kr4t05: hmm, could be because of OSS, try selecting the ALSA driver in Skype	03:16
Kr4t05	OOD: Yeah, that's already selected.	03:17
Hawkwind	bomber: Unfortunately no. Someone should port it from Mandriva to *Ubuntu though. It's just a python or perl script	03:17
azriel	is your soundcard set to full duplex?	03:17
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Kr4t05	azriel: I think so.	03:17
OOD	audacity uses arts right?	03:17
Kr4t05	azriel: yeah...	03:18
Kr4t05	OOD: I think?	03:18
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King_Brad	anyone know country songs? i am looking for one, but cant think of the name, i do know a line from the song...	03:19
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Kr4t05	OOD: Isn't there some way I can ln -s /dev/dsp to something?	03:21
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OOD	Kr4t05: audacity uses OSS, so if your card doesn't have hardware mixing then it hogs all of your soundcard	03:27
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OOD	try compiling audacity with alsa support instead to see if that could solve your problem: http://audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=Linux_Issues	03:30
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Zaire	how do I get the nvidia beta drivers	03:30
Kr4t05	OOD: That's a good idea.	03:30
OOD	im gonna give give it a try too since i need a decent audio editor working :)	03:30
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nzx	hey, does anyone know how to make kopete do auto spell check ? i've set the option but it does not get enabled	03:30
OOD	!nvidia	03:30
ubotu	To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	03:30
OOD	Zaire: ^^	03:31
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LeeJunFan	nzx: I've found spellcheck only works with certain IM protocols for some reason.	03:35
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nzx	LeeJunFan, did you manage to get it working with msn ?	03:36
LeeJunFan	nzx: aim for sure no.	03:36
LeeJunFan	yeah, msn works.	03:36
LeeJunFan	nzx: do you have ispell and or aspell installed?	03:36
nzx	LeeJunFan, aspell i think	03:36
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nzx	LeeJunFan, it kinda works, if i right click in the chat window and click on auto spell check, it works, but it wont save the setting	03:37
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nzx	nzx, i want it so that it just does it, rather then me having to select it all the time!	03:37
LeeJunFan	nzx: ah, I see what you mean. Mine is enabled by default on all my contacts. hrm.	03:38
nzx	LeeJunFan, how did you do that ?	03:38
LeeJunFan	nzx: settings, behaviour, chat 3rd option down.	03:39
LeeJunFan	nzx: under settings, configure... that is	03:39
nzx	LeeJunFan, i have that enabled	03:39
nzx	LeeJunFan, but incorretly spelt words are not picked up and highlighted	03:40
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LeeJunFan	open ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc and check for existance of a line SpellCheck=true	03:40
nzx	LeeJunFan, its there under apperance	03:42
nzx	LeeJunFan, but further down there is a section with lots of my msn contacts with an option saying EnableAutoSpellCheck = faule	03:43
LeeJunFan	nzx: yeah, I don't know why it wouldn't be saving your individual prefs.	03:43
nzx	LeeJunFan, me neither	03:44
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LeeJunFan	nzx: I have a feeling that it's a bug in kopete. I can't set mine either. I must have been able to at some time - but with the current version is't not keeping settings.	03:45
nzx	LeeJunFan, oki	03:45
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LeeJunFan	nzx: even on the contacts I have with spellchecking on, if I turn it off it won't remember, it stays on next time I open a window to them.	03:46
nzx	LeeJunFan, i'll check if there is a bug filed	03:47
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smaggard	hi	03:47
Kr4t05	OOD: I can't get Audacity to compile with ALSA support. :/	03:47
smaggard	hmm ive always just used apt-get	03:48
OOD	Kr4t05: im compiling it right now, but it doesn't look like it's going to work, im getting a lot of errors in the compile	03:48
smaggard	hmm	03:48
Kr4t05	OOD: I kept getting errors, too.	03:48
smaggard	maybe its broke heh	03:49
OOD	warnings*	03:49
OOD	not errors	03:49
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smaggard	warnings are better than errors :D	03:49
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OOD	Kr4t05: installed it, now fingerscrossed lets hope it runs	03:53
Kr4t05	OOD: What arc you on?	03:53
OOD	x86	03:53
OOD	runs :D	03:53
OOD	i've packaged it into a deb, i can send it to you if you want	03:54
Kr4t05	dood	03:55
Kr4t05	fer shure	03:55
OOD	im running edgy, so it might not run on dapper	03:55
Kr4t05	OOD: I'm running edgy, too.	03:56
Kr4t05	:P	03:56
OOD	http://rapidshare.com/files/1761289/audacity-src-1.3.2_1.3.2-1_i386.deb.html	03:57
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OOD	remove the older audacity first so the files dont get mixed up :)	03:57
Kr4t05	right on	03:57
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OOD	hopefully being able to use ALSA will solve your problem :)	03:58
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Kr4t05	OOD: Ya	03:59
Kr4t05	OOD: RapidShare kinda sucks.	04:00
Kr4t05	Why didn't you just DCC it to me?	04:00
OOD	i didnt register my name so i dont think i can send files directly	04:00
Kr4t05	Meh, okay.	04:00
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Kr4t05	OOD: It whines about libjack-something-something, I'm just apt-get'ing jackd with the hope it works.	04:04
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knight	hi all	04:05
knight	I am having problems with knetworkmanager	04:06
knight	anybody play around with that	04:06
Kr4t05	OOD: I give you 400 jumbo chocolate chip cookies!	04:07
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OOD	Kr4t05: works with skype?	04:08
Kr4t05	YA!	04:08
OOD	nice :)	04:08
knight	anyone played around with knetworkmanager	04:08
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fignew	knight: yes	04:10
knight	ok	04:10
knight	I have it installed	04:10
knight	but somehow no network show	04:10
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knight	and right now i am connected with wireless	04:10
knight	but not with knetworkmanager	04:11
fignew	does it show the wired network?	04:11
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PenguinistaKC	Is there a front-end for ssh-agent in Kubuntu?	04:13
pcnerd37	Hello. Im trying out Kubuntu 6.10 before installing it to my new Thinkpad T60, and i was wondering if somebody could tell me how to set up the wireless for WPA because thats what I have at home and i can only see how to set up WEP. If somebody could tell me or point me in the right direction, i would really appreciate it	04:13
PenguinistaKC	pcnerd37: sudo apt-get install network-manager knetworkmanager	04:14
knight	ok	04:14
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knight	but then you turn in to the problem o	04:14
knight	not seeing any wireless accesspoint	04:15
knight	like me	04:15
knight	I have knetworkmanager	04:15
knight	but not working	04:15
fignew	does it show the wired network?	04:15
pcnerd37	Thanks PenguinistaKC, i will try that when i can get wired access of my network to try it, unfortunately one of my roommates is using the only wire right now	04:15
PenguinistaKC	pcnerd37: Once installed, restart services, or log out/log in	04:15
pcnerd37	ok	04:16
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pcnerd37	im running the live dvd right now but will install it in a little bit. what is the approx time of install?	04:16
PenguinistaKC	10 or 15 minutes for me	04:17
pcnerd37	it will be a dual boot with XP btw	04:17
PenguinistaKC	depends on the speed of your machine	04:17
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pcnerd37	ok, cool. I have yet to repartion my hard drive, will the install allow me to do that?	04:18
max_	anyone know if PhotoShop 7 or CS works on KDE (edgy) with Wine?	04:19
OOD	check appdb.winehq.org	04:20
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PenguinistaKC	does anyone know if a front-end exists for ssh-agent on kubuntu?	04:20
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pcnerd37	Is there any way of programming in C# using the .Net 2.0 framework on kubuntu? like with wine or something?	04:22
felixjet	holly $%$"!$% !!!!	04:23
felixjet	again !	04:23
felixjet	when i want to eject a "$"$""% CD it says that the driver is in use. and dont let me umount it !	04:23
felixjet	is the 3rd time i need to close session to eject a CD	04:23
felixjet	how can i fix thiS!?!?	04:23
OOD	pcnerd37: mono	04:24
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rewarpster	anyone uses KVirc?	04:24
felixjet	can anyone help me pleasee	04:24
pcnerd37	I have heard of that, but last i heard it was only .Net 1. For school i need .Net 2.0, and likely 3.0 when it comes out	04:25
OOD	felixjet: you using wine?	04:25
larson9999	max_: wine doesn't even work on edgy for me. not the new version anyway	04:25
felixjet	OOD: yes but not now	04:25
max_	wine works on edgy for me	04:25
max_	i just had to DL the new one	04:25
larson9999	max_ what version of wine?	04:25
OOD	yea wine works perfectly here too	04:25
felixjet	i just open the CD folder, open a video with kaffeine, see it 20 secs, closed it, try to eject CD and it dont works!	04:25
felixjet	not even from unit button	04:25
max_	ummm	04:26
max_	idunno	04:26
rewarpster	anyone uses KVirc?	04:26
max_	latest	04:26
felixjet	this is so annoying	04:26
larson9999	max_ where did you get it?	04:26
max_	sudo apt-get install wine	04:26
larson9999	max_ which repository?	04:26
OOD	default edgy one probably	04:27
max_	just do sudo apt-get install wine	04:27
felixjet	OOD can you help me please	04:27
larson9999	max_ do 'wine --version' and tell me what it says	04:27
Zaire	so anyone got any ideas what you do when even root can't write a file to the HD	04:27
OOD	felixjet: someone here had a similar problem, let me scroll up and find it :)	04:27
max_	.0.9.24	04:28
felixjet	ok	04:28
felixjet	thanks	04:28
felixjet	i go restart the fuc.... session so i can eject it	04:28
felixjet	:(	04:28
larson9999	max_ hmm	04:28
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dalbirdy1	can you install vmware inside a vitual machine....and install another os inside that??	04:30
xsacha	im on kubuntu 64 with wine 0.9.23 and it works fine	04:31
smaggard	lol i would imagine that would be slow	04:31
OOD	dalbirdy1: yea i think that's possible	04:31
dalbirdy1	so you would have three os's running at the same time?	04:31
xsacha	yes dalbirdy1, you can	04:31
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felixjet	i never understand one thing... VMWare is an emulator like wine? or a perfect new SO over one	04:31
tobias	:D	04:31
xsacha	or you could just have multiple OSes running in VMware	04:31
smaggard	well you can have 3 running at the same time regardless	04:31
tobias	its like the matrix!!!!!	04:31
tobias	or the multiple universe thingie	04:31
tobias	string theory	04:31
tobias	no?	04:31
inteliwasp	is there any avantage to have the backports active on 6.06?	04:31
xsacha	M theory..	04:31
dalbirdy	as long as you have the harwaer power!!	04:31
smaggard	just have like a tabbed browser with linux, bsd, and solaris and click among them :D	04:32
OOD	felixjet: try umount -f	04:32
smaggard	pffff and xp if you just HAVE to.. haha	04:32
tobias	wow	04:32
tobias	no! the word was uttered!	04:32
xsacha	that's what vmware workstation lets you do	04:32
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smaggard	i know this	04:33
Th3_Cr0up13R	hi	04:33
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Th3_Cr0up13R	i got wine but how do irun something on it	04:33
tobias	the x..... word....	04:33
OOD	wine programname.exe	04:33
smaggard	just type wine and then the whatever.exe	04:33
inteliwasp	!backports \| inteliwasp	04:33
ubotu	inteliwasp: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports	04:33
felixjet	i tried OOD	04:33
Th3_Cr0up13R	since it makes apparently a directory c/windows/.... but i cannot find the program anymore	04:33
felixjet	but gives me the same error: driver in use	04:33
felixjet	drive/	04:33
tobias	do i need a reallly good computer to use wine?	04:33
Th3_Cr0up13R	yes thats true but most of them need to be installed	04:33
OOD	Th3_Cr0up13R: the c drive is in .wine in your home directory	04:34
smaggard	nah any computer can run wine :D	04:34
felixjet	tobias 512-1024+ MB ram better	04:34
smaggard	vmware... now thats an app that needs some horsepower	04:34
tobias	ooh	04:34
tobias	felixjet: I got 256 :(	04:34
Th3_Cr0up13R	in my home directory i dont seem to have wine there	04:34
felixjet	u can run small programs	04:34
OOD	depends what OS you run in it :)	04:34
felixjet	but dont try to open a game or w/e	04:35
tobias	oki	04:35
smaggard	i run quickbooks with crossover on 512mb	04:35
OOD	Th3_Cr0up13R: .wine	04:35
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OOD	its hidden	04:35
tobias	felixjet: thanks	04:35
felixjet	welcome	04:35
smaggard	wine probably wont work well with most games	04:35
OOD	it works perfectly with some	04:35
xsacha	any files starting with a dot(.) is hidden, like .kde, .emerald, .wine but they should all be in your ~ folder Th3_Cr0up13R	04:35
OOD	and some dont work at all yet	04:35
smaggard	some as in a couple haha	04:35
xsacha	make sure you ran "winecfg" as well Th3_Cr0up13R	04:35
smaggard	use ubuntu and sudo apt-get install wine and ur done	04:36
smaggard	:D	04:36
OOD	he installed a program in the c drive so he probably has .wine :)	04:36
smaggard	or crossover	04:36
felixjet	bah	04:37
felixjet	CDROM dont eject again	04:37
felixjet	i cant restart session everytime i need open CD. so WTF	04:37
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felixjet	micro$oft CD system is 100x better	04:38
felixjet	u can eject it when u want. even from physical button	04:38
smaggard	what r u talking about?	04:38
felixjet	im so mad	04:39
Healot	mount madness, felix?	04:39
felixjet	yea	04:39
Admiral_Chicago	Healot: sounds like it	04:39
felixjet	kubuntu dont want gives me my CD roms ! $%$%$	04:39
Th3_Cr0up13R	winecfg?	04:39
felixjet	and i dont want restart session everytime	04:39
felixjet	:(	04:39
smaggard	if you cant get your cd rom to eject ur an idiot!!!	04:39
xsacha	felixjet: ???? you mean "user" in fstab?	04:40
felixjet	yea xsacha	04:40
Th3_Cr0up13R	you mean on the folder run do i do a wine winecfg?	04:40
Admiral_Chicago	smaggard: that's not necessary	04:40
felixjet	it worked all time, it just come crazy half hour ago	04:40
smaggard	:D	04:40
xsacha	Th3_Cr0up13R: just run winecfg through alt+f2 or a konsole	04:40
felixjet	smaggard: maybe, since u are so smart, can share some tips	04:40
xsacha	i've never had any issues with my cdrom :S	04:41
smaggard	i think ur too dumb to take advice	04:41
smaggard	lol jk..	04:41
Healot	felixjet: tried "eject"(ing) manually?	04:41
felixjet	yea	04:41
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smaggard	paperclip it	04:41
smaggard	:D	04:41
felixjet	dont worked any of this: rightclick CD -> eject ; physical eject button on the CDrom unit ;sudo umount -f /dev/hdc	04:42
felixjet	not any of this	04:42
smaggard	wow	04:42
Healot	felix, "eject <cdrom device>"	04:42
xsacha	what's error on sudo umount?	04:42
smaggard	may i ask, are you from india?	04:42
Healot	let's see the error message that it'll pop?	04:42
felixjet	it sais:	04:42
felixjet	eject: umount /media/cdrom0/ has failed.	04:43
Healot	expand the message, felix	04:43
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smaggard	did u say it was ubuntu? have u checked the ubuntu forums?	04:43
xsacha	is this dapper then?	04:43
felixjet	Healot: it just say that	04:43
smaggard	the chances of you being the first to run into a problem are slim to none	04:43
Healot	click the arrow after the message :-	04:43
felixjet	what arrow...	04:44
felixjet	im doing in console	04:44
cory	ok i got kubuntu (32bit) installed on my system, but it doesnt pick up 4gigs of my ram. I know there's something i have to do now to get it to see all 4, but i dont remember exactly what...	04:44
Healot	rightclick CD -> eject << i thought you're doing this	04:44
felixjet	i did also	04:44
felixjet	and no error msg	04:44
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Healot	felix, then eject manually	04:45
felixjet	dont works	04:45
xsacha	what is error of "sudo eject" ?	04:45
xsacha	the one before: eject: unmount of `/media/cdrom' failed	04:45
Healot	felixjet: , with a paperclip or somthing that size	04:45
felixjet	the same xsacha, umount failed, media busy	04:45
unix_infidel	cory: should work automatically, might try using a different kernel though.	04:45
xsacha	busy	04:45
xsacha	being the key	04:45
unix_infidel	cory: i'd recommend compiling your own, its dead easy.	04:45
felixjet	but i just copied the file from CD to desktop	04:46
felixjet	i didnt anything else	04:46
OOD	cory: how much does it pick up?	04:46
felixjet	so i dont have any program dealing with CDrom	04:46
Healot	or use 64-bit distro, cory, well requires 64-bit CPU too	04:46
xsacha	felixjet: can you paste your fstab line for this cdrom?	04:46
felixjet	yea	04:46
cory	OOD: picks up 3.2gigs	04:46
felixjet	/dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 auto user,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0	04:46
cory	Healot: i tried 64bit last night, didnt like it. too quirky.	04:47
felixjet	its original from install	04:47
unix_infidel	cory: `uname -r` please	04:47
Healot	cory... 64-bit surpassed 4Gi RAM size, that's what I know	04:47
unix_infidel	its actually 4GB+	04:47
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OOD	Healot: it's possible to make use of 16gigs of ram on 32-bit with a slightly modified linux kernel	04:47
nnn0	they got flash ready yet ?	04:48
Healot	yup	04:48
OOD	the server kernels have this switch enabled i beleive	04:48
Healot	not with the stock kernel though	04:48
smaggard	flash9 rocks!	04:48
OOD	yea	04:48
unix_infidel	but for most people 32bit is just fine. unless you NEED 64bit and are willing to support it, go 32	04:48
smaggard	it actually works very well	04:48
unix_infidel	cory: if you just pasted the uname -r that'd help us out a lot in getting your problem solved.	04:48
xsacha	felixjet: i know you have it set with "user", but try adding your user to system->administration->users&groups with cdrom access	04:48
felixjet	i have full access to all groups lol	04:49
xsacha	ok	04:49
cory	2.6.17-10-generic	04:49
OOD	smaggard: yea it's almost flawless, i have less of a need for windows every day :)	04:49
cory	standard edgy kernel	04:49
Th3_Cr0up13R	how can i make wine to run the programs straight with wine program.exe	04:49
felixjet	it worked fine all time, but when i used the CD today, half hour ago, it dont want give me it bakc	04:49
smaggard	OOD> same here! now that flash works and quickbooks works with crossover.. its like im completely windows free!!	04:49
xsacha	felixjet: something is using your cdrom.. ?	04:49
Th3_Cr0up13R	without having to go all the way to its .wine / ss/ss/wine program.exe	04:49
smaggard	wine should create shortcuts when you install it	04:49
smaggard	like on the desktop...	04:50
felixjet	xsacha dont think so, i didnt run any program since i enter the CD	04:50
cory	from what i understand, i can use a -extended-ram switch in compiling the kernel... something like that anyway	04:50
Th3_Cr0up13R	it didnt create any shortcuts	04:50
Th3_Cr0up13R	anything	04:50
xsacha	Th3_Cr0up13R: in your KMenu->Wine?	04:50
OOD	there is no wine shortcuts anywhere	04:50
Th3_Cr0up13R	no nothing	04:51
xsacha	wine always gives me a shortcut in KMenu	04:51
OOD	wine will make shortcuts once you install a windows program that would normally make a windows shortcut	04:51
xsacha	yes	04:51
smaggard	OOD> yeah it will do just like windows does.	04:51
smaggard	it did it with tightvnc i know for sure	04:51
Th3_Cr0up13R	all windows programs create shortcuts hehehe	04:51
Th3_Cr0up13R	but no i dont have any shortcuts anywhere	04:52
Th3_Cr0up13R	sorry about that	04:52
xsacha	Th3_Cr0up13R: what program did you install?	04:52
felixjet	afk :(	04:52
felixjet	thanks anyway	04:52
Th3_Cr0up13R	emule just to try if wine works	04:52
felixjet	i hope it dont happen again after rebooting	04:52
smaggard	WHY would u install a program like emule????	04:52
Th3_Cr0up13R	it does run it normally if i go all the way were the program is	04:52
smaggard	theres soooo many better linux solutions	04:52
cory	anyone still feel like helping me?	04:52
Th3_Cr0up13R	thats the 1 i found at the moment and was small	04:52
smaggard	just get limewire	04:53
xsacha	native linux alternatives: http://www.kde-apps.org/index.php?xcontentmode=234	04:53
Th3_Cr0up13R	thats not the case im not using it , its just to try it	04:53
smaggard	limewire has a linux version... nice.	04:53
OOD	smaggard: or frostwire	04:53
xsacha	frostwire.. but it's java :P	04:53
OOD	its opensource	04:53
Th3_Cr0up13R	just to learn how to run this thing and what happens when it goes where	04:53
OOD	limewire is java too	04:53
xsacha	i know :(	04:54
Admiral_Chicago	cory: someone may not have the answoer	04:54
smaggard	limewire freakin rocks!!!	04:54
smaggard	cory whats the question	04:54
xsacha	felixjet: can you please run: lsof /cdrom	04:54
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cory	smaggard: i'm trying to run 4gigs of ram on a 32bit system and only 3.2gigs are showing up. I know there's a kernel option, but i dont know which or how to use it	04:55
felixjet	xsacha: it says konqueror	04:55
xsacha	3.2 gigs is an odd number :S	04:55
xsacha	konqueror is using it? close it?	04:55
smaggard	its 3.2 because of the way the memmory is calculated	04:55
felixjet	i will kill process	04:55
Admiral_Chicago	xsacha: no it's an even number	04:55
felixjet	i dont have konqueror open uU	04:56
xsacha	:S	04:56
OOD	lol	04:56
felixjet	now worked	04:56
felixjet	thanks !	04:56
xsacha	:)	04:56
smaggard	its like when you format a 40gb hd and only get 38.7	04:56
felixjet	i think konqueror is bugged	04:56
felixjet	and dont close at all when i close the window	04:56
xsacha	yeah i had konqueror using 70MB of RAM the other day when it wasnt open	04:56
smaggard	whoah	04:56
smaggard	dang	04:56
cory	smaggard: no, that's not it. When i installed kubuntu-64, it gave me 4.0gigs of ram	04:56
OOD	smaggard: er, im pretty sure RAM isn't calculated that way	04:56
cory	it has to do with the kernel only allocating the ram	04:57
cory	OOD: yea, it doesnt	04:57
xsacha	3.2 sounds like an odd number, you'd expect 2 or 4 (if you had 4 gigs)	04:57
felixjet	well, now i can load the CD 2 of the movie hah	04:57
felixjet	see ya later	04:57
xsacha	cya	04:57
snerge	when I try to run winecfg, I get the following message : X Error of failed request: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request: 144 (NV-GLX), is there any known bugs with nvidia drivers, I'm using dual-lcd setup, shall I disable GLX ?	04:57
smaggard	ugh its the way its calculated im tellin ya. instead of 1024k pmb its advetised at 1000k	04:57
OOD	smaggard: yeah, but that's only harddrive makers, there's no way RAM would cut down from 4 to 3.2 :P	04:58
cory	Mem: 3367648 447532 2920116 0 86896 215160	04:58
snerge	Mem: 1555040k total	04:58
xsacha	i dont think you lose 20% from that conversion though smaggard	04:58
smaggard	wow	04:58
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snerge	you don't, look I got 1.5 gig and it shows like it	04:59
smaggard	why are you going from a 64 bit to a 32 anyway?	04:59
xsacha	me too with 512	04:59
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cory	smaggard: because 64bit made things too complicated. I like 32bit because everything kinda just works	04:59
Th3_Cr0up13R	can i run anything with wine that would run on a windows machine?	04:59
OOD	64-bit sucks with deb based distros	04:59
xsacha	Th3_Cr0up13R: not everything, although i havent found anything that doesnt run yet...	04:59
xsacha	even photoshop worked and my favourite game (though low fps)	05:00
cory	but i want to use all my ram, and i know if i recompile the kernel with a certain option it'll work, just dont know how	05:00
Th3_Cr0up13R	i need to make some programs in linux but run them on win	05:00
xsacha	Th3_Cr0up13R: you're just going to be using win32 console right?	05:00
xsacha	that should work flawlessly	05:00
Th3_Cr0up13R	i dont have 2 comps but i cannot split my harddrives and stuff	05:00
Th3_Cr0up13R	what do you mean win32 console	05:00
Th3_Cr0up13R	?	05:01
xsacha	program you're making is console app?	05:01
Th3_Cr0up13R	sorry my english fails me sometimes	05:01
smaggard	all you have to do to enable it to see all 4 GB of ram is enable in your kernel the High Memory Support	05:01
snerge	Th3_Cr0up13R: you could also run vmware, there is a free version if I remember correctly	05:01
xsacha	it doesnt have a GUI, right Th3_Cr0up13R?	05:01
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Th3_Cr0up13R	could do	05:01
Th3_Cr0up13R	ill give it a try	05:01
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xsacha	well you can always work around it if you have a problem, but it should work flawlessly for console app and i havent had an issue yet for gui	05:02
Th3_Cr0up13R	this wine thing seems quite quick on my computer and doesnt look to have any problems yet	05:02
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xsacha	sometimes programs wont exit cleanly in wine	05:02
Th3_Cr0up13R	its alright i just need to try it out and see how it works	05:02
smaggard	ive heard that the High Memory Support should be changed to 64GB	05:02
xsacha	if you accidently run a console app but not inside a konsole -- it will stay running! :S i had 2 console apps running from wine in background when i went to sleep, was eating 50% CPU each	05:03
Th3_Cr0up13R	need to get back to my project now, not so much time thanx for the help, ill try and run it on run	05:03
Th3_Cr0up13R	thanks again xsacha	05:03
smaggard	u still there cory?	05:04
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smaggard	hm o well	05:06
Search4Lancer	alright, I'm trying to burn a cd	05:06
smaggard	mhmm	05:06
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Search4Lancer	but, apparently, "Cdrecord has no permission to open the device"	05:06
smaggard	edit your /etc/fstab	05:07
Th3_Cr0up13R	how do you call a program that would keep an eye on your files and when one of the files is edited would tell you or log it	05:07
Th3_Cr0up13R	you know an access restriction program ? something like that ?	05:07
josh_	something is wrong with the keyboard	05:07
Kurt	hello, I'm new to forum, but I've been having some problems with Apache2 since upgrading "apt-get dist-upgrade" to edgy.	05:07
josh_	the symbols are all different	05:08
josh_	how do i do american english keyboard layout	05:08
Kurt	I cannot get the system to start apache any more	05:08
Search4Lancer	smaggard: well, it said to run k3bsetup2, which I did, but I have no idea what to do with it	05:08
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Kurt	It will not give me a reason either.	05:08
smaggard	do you know how to edit your fstab?	05:08
smaggard	kurt try /etc/init.d/apache2 start	05:08
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Search4Lancer	smaggard: yus, somewhat	05:08
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Kurt	I've done that and get no error messages. It just says "Fail"	05:09
smaggard	ok, well the line that reads /media/cdrom0 needs to have "user" in it	05:09
smaggard	without the ""	05:09
smaggard	hmm	05:09
smaggard	try sudo apt-get install apache	05:10
Search4Lancer	smaggard: it has user in it... udf,iso9660 user,noauto 0 0	05:10
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smaggard	hmm	05:10
smaggard	thats what mine is too and it works with k3b	05:10
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smaggard	how did you install k3b?	05:11
smaggard	apt-get??	05:11
Search4Lancer	I don't recall ever installing k3b, but apparently it's here...	05:11
Jucato	k3b is installed by default on Kubuntu	05:11
Search4Lancer	there you go	05:12
smaggard	hmm	05:12
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smaggard	ive never had that problem b4	05:13
Search4Lancer	k3bsetup2 just changed the permissions on my burner to 666.. let's see if that works...	05:13
josh_	can someone help	05:13
smaggard	if not try 777 :	05:13
smaggard	:D	05:13
Search4Lancer	nope, still says it has no permission	05:14
josh_	when i try to do a question mark instead its a	05:14
josh_	i think its a foreign keyboard layout	05:14
Kurt	apache2 is installed. I did the apt-get install apache2 --reinstall	05:14
josh_	how do i set it to american english	05:14
Search4Lancer	smaggard: I would've tried 777 in the first place, but the program wouldn't let me pick and choose, it chose 666 by itself, so that's what I had to go with	05:14
smaggard	whats the error.log say?	05:14
Search4Lancer	who?	05:15
smaggard	kut	05:15
smaggard	kurt	05:15
Th3_Cr0up13R	dapper what file manager is good ?	05:16
Th3_Cr0up13R	what would you suggest to use ?	05:16
Jucato	konqueror	05:16
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Th3_Cr0up13R	what about nautilus	05:16
craftycorner	hello?	05:16
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Kurt	yes?	05:16
Th3_Cr0up13R	seems very quick	05:16
Jucato	that's on GNOME	05:16
xsacha	use konqueror :D	05:16
smaggard	so do i, but dolphin is ok	05:17
Th3_Cr0up13R	fair enough no arguing	05:17
Th3_Cr0up13R	i will xsacha ;)	05:17
craftycorner	I have a suggestion. or prob, one or other. tried to install Frostwire, but the deb-install was buggy	05:17
xsacha	but Th3_Cr0up13R, check out out: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=40491	05:17
smaggard	brb grabbing some grub	05:17
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Th3_Cr0up13R	thats not on adept thought hehehe	05:18
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Th3_Cr0up13R	i think ill have to install it hehe	05:19
xsacha	:P	05:19
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craftycorner	how do I make suggestion about a program on forums? it's a good program, has potential, is open source, just need someone 'who knows & cares' to help it into the Kubuntu world	05:20
xsacha	Th3_Cr0up13R: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=47956 this is kubuntu edgy version of it	05:20
Th3_Cr0up13R	do all these programs on the website you gave me work on dapper ?	05:20
xsacha	craftycorner: what program?	05:20
craftycorner	frostwire	05:20
xsacha	oh :S	05:20
craftycorner	www.frostwire.com	05:20
xsacha	Th3_Cr0up13R: they'll all work, but some of them might not have binaries, so they'd have to be compiled :S	05:20
craftycorner	it might be worth our while	05:21
xsacha	craftycorner: try the community link..	05:21
xsacha	maybe a post on their forums	05:21
craftycorner	url link	05:21
craftycorner	please	05:21
xsacha	you just wrote it, above	05:21
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craftycorner	ahh ok	05:22
Th3_Cr0up13R	i noticed that most of the kubuntu goes with debian	05:22
Th3_Cr0up13R	y is that , does it have any thing to do with debian?	05:22
xsacha	yeah ubuntu was based off debian	05:23
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xsacha	Th3_Cr0up13R: check out filelight as well, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=9887 -- nice graphical display of your harddrives	05:23
pingveno	I'm having some difficulties upgrading to Edgy. The x11-common package won't install	05:24
pingveno	The forum thread is at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1706151	05:24
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xsacha	oh and Th3_Cr0up13R, filelight is on adept :)	05:26
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Th3_Cr0up13R	hahahah	05:27
Th3_Cr0up13R	nice one	05:27
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danny500	when I'm useing edgy, what do I type in to run the graphical mode? When I'm in the nongraphical mode	05:27
Th3_Cr0up13R	what about themes what do you do this one i got is getting really boring	05:28
xsacha	http://www.kde-look.org	05:28
Th3_Cr0up13R	you know the blue and white	05:28
OOD	get new ones :)	05:28
xsacha	yeah, that's first thing i get rid of Th3_Cr0up13R :)	05:28
danny500	how do I run the nautilus when in non graphical mode?	05:29
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OOD	danny500: you mean in the command line?	05:29
danny500	yeah	05:29
OOD	you cant run graphical apps without X	05:30
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danny500	I'm using vmware, running edgy, and I want it to be in the graphical mode but it's running in the command line mode.	05:30
xsacha	tty1-6?	05:30
danny500	how do I get it to go into graphical mode?	05:31
xsacha	this is ubuntu or kubuntu ?	05:31
OOD	KDM should start automatically	05:31
OOD	you shouldnt be touching the commandline by default	05:31
xsacha	if it's kubuntu, just type in "kdm"	05:31
pingveno	yummmm, command line	05:31
danny500	ok hold on I'll see if it works	05:32
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danny500	didn't work	05:32
danny500	it's ubuntu 6.10	05:32
OOD	try gdm	05:32
xsacha	oh ubuntu lol	05:32
danny500	still nothing	05:32
danny500	yeah, ubuntu 6.10	05:32
danny500	the new one	05:33
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OOD	startx?	05:33
xsacha	wondering how you got to #kubuntu...	05:33
danny500	It's my defalt room	05:33
danny500	came with ubuntu lol	05:33
xsacha	er.. :S	05:33
danny500	yeah	05:34
xsacha	sure you're not using kubuntu? :)	05:34
danny500	yeah	05:34
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xsacha	!botsnack \| kubuntu	05:35
ubotu	kubuntu: Yum!	05:35
jujujuju	I am the zing!	05:35
ziegen	Can someone help me find codecs for kaffeine	05:35
danny500	!botsnack \|zing!	05:35
ubotu	zing!: Yum!	05:35
danny500	lol	05:35
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OOD	ziegen: get the multiverse repository	05:36
OOD	!multiverse	05:36
ubotu	The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	05:36
OOD	!w32	05:36
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:36
OOD	!win32	05:36
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	05:36
OOD	!w32codecs	05:36
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	05:36
OOD	there :P ^^	05:36
danny500	I think there's Kubuntu, ubuntu, and xubuntu	05:36
ziegen	thanks	05:36
xsacha	edubuntu	05:37
danny500	but I don't care about that. I want to know how to switch from command line, to desktop and stuff	05:37
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danny500	ok	05:37
unix_infidel	why not use cli and gui in conjunction.	05:37
xsacha	open a konsole to get a command line..	05:37
osiris	where does wine install the programs to	05:38
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Search4Lancer	smaggard: got it, had to run k3b as root	05:38
xsacha	osiris: ~/.wine/drive_c or wherever you made it in winecfg	05:38
danny500	were ever you tell it to	05:38
osiris	i clicked on the exe in konq	05:38
xsacha	osiris: run winecfg first	05:38
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OOD	osiris: you should use wine form terminal	05:39
OOD	from*	05:40
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jujujuju	sudo apt-get remove linux-image-`uname -r`	05:41
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jujujuju	sudo apt-get install windows-xp	05:42
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xsacha	sudo apt-get install windows-vista-sp2	05:43
max_	can anyone help with getting photoshop to work with wine on edgy?	05:43
Crazi	hey guys I have a quick question .. what is teh best linux distribution ... for an old pc .... P2 333MHZ 128 RAM ... 8 years old .... that can identify most f teh drivers and the most user friends distribution... is xubuntu any good?	05:44
xsacha	i think there's a howto somewhere -- same howto works on all distros	05:44
inteliwasp	i cant start xmms since upgrading to edgy	05:44
Crazi	friendly*	05:45
max_	can anyone help with getting photoshop to work with wine on edgy?	05:45
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xsacha	max_ what problem do you get when installing it?	05:46
max_	xsacha: umm, lemme get it into a pastebin	05:46
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danny500	ok, like I was saying	05:47
inteliwasp	i keep getin this error for xmms: Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)	05:47
inteliwasp	serial 2454 error_code 8 request_code 72 minor_code 0	05:47
max_	xsacha: http://pastebin.ca/235340	05:47
Th3_Cr0up13R	i cannot change it	05:47
Th3_Cr0up13R	i read the how to install and change the .kde/share and all this	05:48
danny500	If you want to know which mode I want to get out of then click on your desktop, then press the buttons, Ctrl+Alt+F2orF3	05:48
Th3_Cr0up13R	i tried install new theme from the display but says not correct file type	05:48
xsacha	max_ why do you have run it with explorer?	05:48
danny500	I want to get out of that mode	05:48
max_	xsacha: i dont, i just think its easier in a Virtual Desktop	05:49
xsacha	alt+f7 danny500	05:49
xsacha	max_ same errors with just wine Photoshop.exe ?	05:49
max_	xsacha: yes	05:49
Crazi	hey guys I have a quick question .. what is teh best linux distribution ... for an old pc .... P2 333MHZ 128 RAM ... 8 years old .... that can identify most f teh drivers and the most user friends distribution... is xubuntu any good?	05:49
danny500	oh ok hold on I'll try that, does it work with edgy?	05:49
xsacha	danny500: nothing to do with the distro	05:50
danny500	o ok	05:50
inteliwasp	Crazi: you might want to try a light weight distro like "damn small linux"	05:50
danny500	didn't work	05:51
Crazi	inteliwasp is DSL user friendly? and easy to install?	05:51
Crazi	or is slackware easier?	05:51
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xsacha	danny500: is X running? ps -ae \| grep X	05:51
inteliwasp	Crazi: i never tried it	05:51
xsacha	max_: where is your home C drive?	05:51
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Crazi	owww .... what about xubuntu .... i saids its light weigh and for older plcs.. has anyone tried it?	05:52
inteliwasp	Crazi: i only have experience with red hat, knoppix, and kubuntu	05:52
danny500	when I typed ps -ae \| grep X It went to a blank space and did nothing	05:53
max_	xsacha: .wine/drive_c/PF(my program files)/Adobe/PS(photo shop)	05:53
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Crazi	owww .. thx man .. im running kubuntu now ... i like it so far ...	05:53
aj_	has anyone installed opera in edgy?	05:53
danny500	can you have a graphical OS running in vmware?	05:54
xsacha	max_ what wine version?	05:54
max_	.0.9.24	05:55
xsacha	danny500: yes, but you wont get 3d acceleration	05:55
danny500	I don't care. I'm trying to use Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) but When It loads up it won't go intographical mode	05:56
danny500	It won't load up the desktop and stuff, just stays in the command line	05:56
xsacha	max_ what is your input device?	05:57
aj_	sounds like an X problem yay	05:57
max_	xsacha: thats what i didnt understand, i dont know what its talking about, the only input devices i have are keyboard and mouse	05:58
xsacha	but how are they connected?	05:58
danny500	yeah, yay	05:58
danny500	guess I'll try another OS on vmware :(	05:59
max_	xsacha: oh, keyboard is PS2 and Mouse is USB	05:59
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xsacha	max_ hmm remove those wacom entries from your xorg.conf and see how many errors that clears up.. i think the bottom ones are just from that	06:00
osiris	ok. how can one tell what caused an app in wine to crash, when there doesnt seem to be an error before the porgram exits	06:00
xsacha	warnings*	06:00
max_	xsacha: will do	06:00
xsacha	max_ well you dont need to, but they just clutter up the errors :P the only problem there seems to be the fixme.. actctx:QueryActCtxW	06:01
xsacha	what version of photoshop is this?	06:02
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luca	good night everyone :)	06:03
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xsacha	7.0?	06:03
luca	can someone help me understand why my ubuntu system goes SLOW?	06:03
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troy	does anyone know if the koffice 1.6 packages work on amd64 now? (they didn't before edgy was officially released)	06:04
xsacha	what was wrong with it before? :S	06:05
luca	please, situation is quite severe...today I have switched to windows because I needed a STABLE system... :S	06:07
troy	xsacha: there were some dependancy issues, like krita depending on krita-data <1.5.2 and such when 1.6.0 was there	06:07
xsacha	oh	06:08
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troy	xsacha: basically, it just needed the packages rebuild on a fresh chroot methinks	06:08
troy	since the x86 packages seems to be alright	06:08
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billytwowilly	what's the camera software called in kde?	06:09
PenguinistaKC	billytwowilly: digikam	06:09
billytwowilly	thank you!	06:09
troy	hrmm, dep problems appear to be gone (apt not complaining anymore)	06:09
troy	this is a good thing (tm)	06:09
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xsacha	max_: still there?	06:10
max_	xsacha: looking for xorg.conf	06:11
luca	nobody with any advise about system stability? :)	06:11
xsacha	:S nevermind	06:11
Jucato	/etc/X11/xorg.conf	06:11
xsacha	max_: WINEDEBUG=loaddll wine Photoshop.exe	06:11
PenguinistaKC	luca: We need a little more information than "Ubuntu runs slow"	06:11
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Jucato	also, is it Ubuntu or Kubuntu?	06:11
max_	xsacha: tried that earlier didnt work	06:12
PenguinistaKC	luca: You might want to create a forum post, explaining what version of ubuntu you are using, what packages other than the standard install you have, and information such as cpu usage and any errors on boot up	06:12
xsacha	max_ it should have listed dlls it uses.. ?	06:12
max_	Jucato: dont have that	06:12
luca	Penguinstack: from where? Kubuntu Edgy, 1,8 ghz cpu, it slows terribly down with simple operations such as opening pdf or text files	06:12
Galathalion	is ktorrent good?	06:12
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PenguinistaKC	luca: What video card do you have installed?	06:13
PenguinistaKC	luca: do you notice any disk thrashing, and what does top tell you when you are opening a pdf?	06:13
Jucato	luca: also, have you installed or configured anything before this started happening?	06:13
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luca	Penguinstack: let me check - in any case, it is a Thinkpad R50e	06:13
max_	xsacha: let me get back to the direcrory and ill run that	06:13
Jucato	max_: you don't have a /etc/X11 directory?	06:13
max_	Jucato: no	06:13
xsacha	maybe X11R6	06:13
max_	yes	06:13
xsacha	oh.. nevermind /etc/X11/xorg.conf should be there	06:14
Jucato	oh... that's not right...	06:14
max_	it didnt show up adter my upgrade to edgy	06:14
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xsacha	:O	06:14
luca	Jucato: I have tried to get the CPU going to full speed with kpowersave - because, after installation of Kubuntu Edgy it stopped at 1/3 of potency (even when the system indeed risked crashing)	06:14
Jucato	oh laptop... :(	06:15
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luca	Penguinstack: it does tell me nothing	06:15
max_	neverminf	06:15
max_	d	06:15
max_	it was there	06:15
max_	but hiddebn	06:15
max_	hidden*	06:16
luca	Penguinstack: simply, speed becomes unbearable - I have been constrained to enter konsole session ctrl+alt+f1 and stop the user processes manually.	06:16
luca	more than once	06:16
Jucato	max_: are you searching in Konqueror?	06:16
luca	situation is becoming unaffordable :S	06:16
Jucato	max_: er nvm...	06:16
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max_	xsacha: you said get rid of all wacom entries	06:17
xsacha	don't need to	06:17
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max_	xsacha: what do i replace them with?	06:17
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xsacha	would just clear up the error paste to one line	06:18
max_	xsacha: what do i replace wacom with?	06:18
xsacha	i'm more interested in the WINEDEBUG=loaddll	06:18
max_	ok, ill go to the photopshop directory and do that	06:18
inteliwasp	!purge \| inteliwasp	06:19
DaSkreech	Crazi: I'd use deli or vector	06:19
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about purge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	06:19
luca	right now it seems to go - mah	06:19
luca	I just hope it will not start crashing again :(	06:19
luca	ah and by the way	06:20
luca	kpowersave behaves oddly	06:20
max_	xsacha: http://pastebin.ca/235378	06:20
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luca	after I had installed it, it allowed me to set the cpu frequency	06:21
Jucato	luca: I thought Kubuntu had another power management utility already installed by default?	06:21
luca	Jucato: which one	06:21
luca	?	06:21
xsacha	ghuidance	06:21
xsacha	guidance*	06:21
Jucato	yeah guidance	06:21
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DaSkreech	luca: Hiya	06:21
luca	uhm no GUI as far as I see	06:21
Jucato	it's in System Settings I think	06:21
xsacha	!guidance-power-manager	06:22
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about guidance-power-manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	06:22
osiris	say i came home and my kubuntu box was powered off. what log file would i look in for a klew as to why	06:22
danielw	I installed and compiled the nvidia beta driver but i have to rmmod nvidia before i can start X	06:22
luca	where should it be in the settings?	06:22
xsacha	max_ L"c:\\windows\\system32\\uxtheme.dll" : builtin -- this appears just before the error.. im wondering if a native uxtheme.dll would fix this error?	06:23
danielw	I already removed nvidia packages	06:23
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levander	Does Canonical not offer commercial support for Kubuntu?	06:23
Jucato	levander: it does	06:23
max_	so i need the uxtheme.dll?	06:23
xsacha	max_ download a native uxtheme.dll for whatever OS you're emulating (win98?) and then put it in system32 folder and then add it as a native in winecfg	06:23
Jucato	levander: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid	06:24
max_	ill DL it, youll have to tell me how to add it, im looking for it now	06:24
xsacha	i just told you how to add it :D	06:24
luca	umph other problem I personally have is winetools not being able to install iexplorer and pretty much anything else...but that is another story :P	06:25
levander	Jucato: that page has a sidebar called "related projects" with a link to kubuntu.org - i don't see where it says that that support program includes kubuntu	06:25
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xsacha	max_ what theme do you have set in winecfg?	06:25
smaggard	hiiii	06:25
Jucato	levander: that page tells you where you can get paid support. I believe it covers both Ubuntu and Kubuntu. I'll try to confirm	06:26
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max_	xsacha: theme?	06:26
igi	hi	06:26
levander	Jucato: yeah, because i'd like to switch to kde (kubuntu), but without commercial support, i don't see the commercial viability for it	06:26
xsacha	max_ it has theme in Desktop Integration (in winecfg)	06:26
Jucato	levander: I really think Canonical supports both Ubuntu and Kubuntu, since Canonical also has employed some (or a) Kubuntu developer(s)	06:27
binary2k2	levander: as kubuntu is ubuntu, just with KDE isted if GNOME both have commercial support	06:27
max_	xsacha: i have no clue what your talking about sorry	06:27
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xsacha	max_ run winecfg	06:27
igi	can somebody tell me why my torrent DLs are much slower under Kubuntu comparing to WinXP?	06:27
max_	xsacha: ok, its open, now what	06:27
luca	another one with a slowness problem... :P	06:28
xsacha	max_ Desktp Integration->Theme	06:28
max_	no theme	06:28
Jucato	luca: but quite unrelated to yours :)	06:28
xsacha	ok good	06:28
levander	binary2k2: but, they pull kde out into a separate distribution (kubuntu), they say they support ubuntu, but the ubuntu distribution is based on gnome	06:28
luca	Jucato: I know :)	06:28
max_	it was set to Win 2000, should i make it Win 98?	06:28
xsacha	max_ in Graphics tab, Allow the window manager to manage created windows?	06:28
Jucato	levander: Kubuntu is not a separate distribution (KDE is not a distribution at all :P)	06:28
xsacha	yeah, try win98	06:28
danielw	I installed and compiled the nvidia beta driver but i have to rmmod nvidia before i can start X	06:29
danielw	I already removed nvidia packages	06:29
luca	Jucato: my problem with Kubuntu is that it seems always to fill my RAM and cpu power	06:29
binary2k2	levander: it's not based on gnome, it just used it, if you want you could add KDE to the Ubuntu install by installing kubuntu-desktop	06:29
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max_	xsacha: checked, and i Dled that .dll	06:29
Jucato	levander: confirmed: Canonical supports Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu	06:29
luca	Jucato: it has some cycles for the cpu...for a while it stands still, then suddenly fills it all :(	06:29
max_	should i put it in the folder?	06:29
binary2k2	levander: The only difference between the 2 is the desktop	06:29
tito	Some body can showme the sources.list please	06:29
xsacha	max_ it was checked before? good	06:29
tito	i really need it	06:29
luca	Jucato: the 512 mb Ram, instead, are almost always full	06:29
levander	binary2k2: what repository is kubuntu-desktop in? I think they support everything in main and as much as they can in restricted	06:29
xsacha	max_ yes put it in the system32 folder and then add it in the libraries tab (in winecfg)	06:30
binary2k2	levander: kubuntu-desktop is in main	06:30
tito	it doesnt work apt-get install bitchx	06:30
levander	binary2k2: oh, great! they definitely support it then	06:30
xsacha	max_ type in "ux" and then click the down button and you'll see uxtheme in list :) (no extension)	06:30
tito	for a example	06:30
Jucato	levander: Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu, and Edubuntu all share the same repos. the *-desktop packages are all in main	06:30
tito	it doesnt work apt-get install bitchx	06:30
Jucato	tito: wiki.kubuntu.org/Jucato	06:30
tito	im chilean	06:30
Jucato	tito: that has the default sources.list for dapper	06:30
levander	ubuntu is even offering commercial support fro xfce? wow they are supporting a lot	06:31
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tito	see this error	06:31
neoncode	How do I get VLC to always use the "skins2" skin instead of the default?	06:31
levander	Jucato: i just commented on something you said	06:31
binary2k2	levander: the great thing about ubuntu (and linux in general): You have a choice	06:31
DaSkreech	luca: 512 of RAM?	06:31
levander	Jucato: how did you confirm it?	06:31
tito	jucato speak in private please	06:31
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tito	here i cant understand you	06:31
luca	DaSkreech: exactly. I know they are not that good, but winxp runs fine :(	06:31
Jucato	levander: I asked one of the devs. he said the "official" projects are supported	06:31
tito	just few minuts	06:32
max_	xsacha:ok added it to libararies, now what	06:32
luca	DaSkreech: I COULD upgrade in some months	06:32
xsacha	max_ put the dll into system32 folder (in wine) ?	06:32
tito	some body can help me ??	06:32
max_	xsacha: yes	06:32
DaSkreech	luca: 512 should be fine	06:32
Jucato	tito: I can't speak chilean. and it's better to ask here so that other people can also help. that's how this room works	06:32
tito	no	06:32
levander	okay, cool, i'm switching to kde - despite all the corporate backing for gnome, kde still won linux journal's favorite desktop	06:32
tito	jucato	06:32
DaSkreech	Maybe you could try turning off things you don't need?	06:32
xsacha	max_ ok, close winecfg and try photoshop again	06:32
tito	english	06:32
Jucato	luca: Memory management in Linux is different from XP	06:32
tito	english	06:32
tito	jocato	06:32
levander	in addition to all the other signs i've been seeing, that one is pretty definitive	06:33
tito	jucato	06:33
tito	i can speak english is just a few questions	06:33
tito	when i put apt-get install bitchx	06:33
max_	xsacha: same error	06:33
luca	DaSkreech: it is not. I need at least music going and fast text editor and browser. Sometimes synaptic open. It is not able to support them now, they always slow down	06:33
tito	appears a message that say to me that the pakage is not correct	06:33
binary2k2	levander: when you install kubuntu-desktop you'll have a choice at the login screen to which desktop you want to login to	06:33
tito	or something like that	06:33
binary2k2	levander: you can still use gnome	06:34
xsacha	max_ fixme:actctx:QueryActCtxW 80000010 0x116283c (nil) 1?	06:34
Jucato	tito: you have to enable "universe" if you haven't	06:34
Jucato	!universe \| tito	06:34
ubotu	tito: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	06:34
levander	ohhhh, cool. i didn't know i didn't have to uninstall gnome	06:34
danielw	I installed and compiled the nvidia beta driver but i have to rmmod nvidia before i can start X	06:34
levander	that makes it a lot easier....	06:34
tito	can i show mi sources.list ??	06:34
binary2k2	levander: you can also use all the gnome apps on kde and vice-versa	06:34
danielw	I already removed nvidia packages	06:34
Jucato	!pastebin \| tito	06:34
ubotu	tito: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)	06:34
DaSkreech	luca: What uses the most memory in top or Ksysguard ?	06:34
Jucato	tito: use that pastebin to show your sources.list	06:34
tito	ok	06:34
luca	right noew for example: some documents and web pages open, synaptic open and inactive, amarok, konversation.	06:34
tito	i will	06:34
luca	memory and cpu full o_O	06:35
max_	xsacha:fixme:ntdll:NtConnectPort (0x5ad9d73c,L"\\ThemeApiPort",0x33fb08,(nil),(nil),(nil),0x33fac8,0x33fb1c),stub! ---and-- fixme:actctx:QueryActCtxW 80000010 0x116283c (nil) 1 0x33fdc4 8 (nil)	06:35
xsacha	luca: synaptic?!	06:35
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Jucato	luca: is the memory full with Application Data or Disk Cache?	06:35
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tito	ready	06:35
tito	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29962/	06:35
luca	Jucato: guide me, I have never been able to read properly the ksysmanager	06:36
Jucato	luca: ah I thought it was in KInfoCenter.. sorry :(	06:36
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tito	could you see it ??	06:36
xsacha	max_ :( seems native uxtheme wont work then, can remove it from libraries tab..	06:36
luca	btw, more than one minute to launch the ksysmanager	06:36
Jucato	tito: yes. reading it	06:36
luca	way TOO much :(	06:36
xsacha	luca: pentium 1? :P	06:37
max_	xsacha: ok, removed it	06:37
xsacha	p1 is faster..	06:37
luca	1,8 ghz, intel centrino	06:37
xsacha	max_ ok, im not sure what could be causing that error :(	06:37
luca	well, this is too much - soffice occupies something like 170 mb of ram	06:38
luca	for 4 documents	06:38
luca	o_O	06:38
xsacha	max_ you could try wintab32.dll ... or ask in #wine	06:38
max_	i opened winecfg and clciked on a tab and i got this http://pastebin.ca/235393	06:39
max_	dont knwo what it is	06:39
Jucato	tito: try to install bitchx using apt-get, then using pastebin, show the error messages	06:39
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luca	and also, firefox more than 200 mb	06:39
Jucato	that's normal (for firefox...)	06:39
luca	it is killing my pc nontheless	06:40
xsacha	max_ it couldnt find sound.. it's not critical tho	06:40
luca	same for ooffice	06:40
igi	luca: firefox memory usage can b adjusted in firefox using its chrome	06:41
tito	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29963/	06:41
xsacha	max_ it seems that queryact error is due to the wacom device in your xorg.conf (as are the ones below it) -- so they can all be ignored..	06:41
xsacha	max_ so it seems you aren't getting any actual errors :S	06:41
max_	why wont it run then?	06:42
xsacha	don't know	06:42
tito	jucato i try to traduce the text	06:42
tito	understand me a little bit	06:42
tito	>P	06:42
levander	Is there any user interface to procmail, or is it all modifying configuration files?	06:43
tito	jucato	06:43
binary2k2	tito: you need to add the universe repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list to install bitchx	06:43
Jucato	tito: hold on	06:43
tito	okeu	06:43
Jucato	tito: did you just change your sources.list a while ago?	06:44
DaSkreech	luca: Try using konqueror and koffice?	06:44
max_	xsacha: i cant find wintab32.dll	06:45
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tito	jucato	06:46
tito	yes	06:46
tito	i changed	06:46
tito	a friend gime some ones	06:46
tito	and i chang it	06:46
tito	jucato this is a sources list of a friend thaat is using ubuntu see it please	06:47
tito	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29964/	06:47
Jucato	tito: ok try this. in your sources.list, remove the "ve." from http://ve.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ so that you'll end up with only http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/	06:48
Jucato	tito: after you do that, run "sudo apt-get update" then try to install bitchx again	06:48
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tito	jucato so i erase the sources.list that i have and i paste the repositories that you show me ??	06:50
Jucato	tito: no	06:50
Jucato	tito: just edit the sources.list and delete all the "ve."	06:50
tito	just ve ??	06:50
max_	xsacha: i cant find wintab32.dll	06:50
Jucato	tito: ve. (include the period)	06:51
nickste	I can't see any of my ntfs partitions in edgy (Clean install). I was previously able to in dapper. Any Ideas?	06:51
binary2k2	nickste: what is the output of "sudo fdisk -l" ,in a console?	06:52
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xsacha	max_ it's only needed for tablet pcs (aka the wacom)	06:53
draik	Anyone here upgrade from Firefox 1.5 to 2.0 using the !firefox instructions?	06:53
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max_	oh	06:53
Jucato	hi draik!	06:53
max_	so you dont know at all what it could do?	06:53
luca	system crash :( :( :(	06:53
draik	Hey Jucato	06:53
max_	what the problem is*	06:53
luca	third in two days or so	06:53
xsacha	max_ you could try removing wacom.. but generally that is ignored -- it's only for tablet pcs	06:54
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DaSkreech	luca: are you on Edgy?	06:54
luca	DaSkreech: yep	06:54
doppelganger_	hey guys, does frostwire not work with edgy	06:54
max_	just remove it, so the field would be blank?	06:54
DaSkreech	Did you run the hardware Database thingy?	06:54
nickste	binary2k2: has all my partitions listed there (incl. this one which I want: /dev/sdb1 * 1 10199 81923436 7 HPFS/NTFS)	06:54
doppelganger_	or is there just not a version available for edgy yet?	06:54
draik	How do I change the SSL settings for firefox... says they are disabled	06:54
doppelganger_	it just keeps saying it can't connect to the server, although it worked fine until my upgrade	06:55
binary2k2	nickste: It may just be a matter of adding the correct line to /etc/fstab then	06:55
doppelganger_	i've uninstalled/reinstalled more than a few times	06:55
max_	xsacha: just remove it, so the field would be blank??	06:56
binary2k2	nickste: E.g: /dev/sdb1 /media/windows ntfs defaults,auto	06:56
luca	DaSkreech: hardware database?	06:56
xsacha	max_ you can remove all those wacom entries and then the parts that link to them	06:56
nickste	which file do I need to edit?	06:56
DaSkreech	luca: I thnk it's under system	06:56
max_	so where it says "wacom" make it say what....... ""?	06:56
DaSkreech	it makes a web page with your system specs. I'd be interested in seeing if it's your hardware that is making it so unstable	06:57
xsacha	max_ all the sections that have wacom in it.. the input device ones arent needed and then you can remove the lines that reference them	06:57
max_	ok	06:57
xsacha	or you could just pastebin the xorg.conf and i'll fix it up	06:58
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luca	I think I am doing it right now	06:58
draik	I can't get to my addons for firefox due to SSL protection being disabled. Anyone know what that means and how to fix it?	06:58
binary2k2	nickste: edit the file /etc/fstab (as root)	06:58
luca	and by the way	06:58
luca	I am installing koffice	06:58
luca	I will give it a try	06:59
binary2k2	nickste: add a line like: "/dev/sdb1 /media/windows ntfs defaults,auto 0 0"	06:59
binary2k2	nickste: you need to make sure that the directory /media/windows exists first	07:00
nickste	ok	07:00
luca	what does koffice have less - more than ooffice?	07:01
luca	multiplatform excluded :)	07:01
nickste	binary2k2: I've made the dir, and added the line, and added the file...	07:01
nickste	*saved the file	07:01
nickste	now what?	07:01
DaSkreech	memory footprint? :)	07:02
binary2k2	nickste: you should be able to see the partition in media:/ and it will mount when the system boots	07:02
nickste	nope :(	07:02
luca	do you mean less memory consuming? :)	07:02
DaSkreech	Yes	07:02
nickste	oh, do I have to reboot?	07:02
binary2k2	nickste: you can mount it with "sudo mount /media/windows"	07:02
binary2k2	nickste: once it's mounted, I'm sure you'll see it then	07:03
nickste	binary2k2: [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab	07:03
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binary2k2	nickste: ahh, you need to add a new line to the end of /etc/fstab	07:03
binary2k2	nickste: just a blank line	07:03
nickste	aha :) Working!	07:04
nickste	Thanks very much!	07:04
luca	It does not visualize properly the images O_o	07:04
binary2k2	nickste: no problem :D	07:04
luca	I had used some jpgs on the file I am watching right now, and it is not able to visualize them	07:04
nickste	at last, some music in kubuntu!	07:04
DaSkreech	Hmm strange	07:04
luca	REALLY annoying, also because it is homework	07:05
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DaSkreech	luca: are they saved as .doc?	07:05
max_	xsacha: i removed it, tried to run photosop and got this http://pastebin.ca/235413	07:05
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luca	DaSkreech: uhm yes, saved as .doc in ooffice under windows	07:06
DaSkreech	Ok	07:06
xsacha	max_ dont run it as root?	07:06
levander	what's the usual kde mail client?	07:07
luca	no wait	07:07
xsacha	KMail levander	07:07
luca	they are odt actually	07:07
max_	oh sorry, had to be in root to edit the document	07:07
levander	anybody know if it has a sieve plugin?	07:07
max_	how do i get out of root? besides closing konsole	07:07
xsacha	max_ after editing xorg.conf you'd need to restart X for changes to work anyway	07:07
luca	and ooffice is able to see them	07:07
max_	oh,	07:07
luca	:((	07:07
max_	so do a restart?	07:08
xsacha	max_ if you stuffed something up.. well.. did you make a backup of xorg.conf ?	07:08
Jucato	restart of X	07:08
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max_	yes	07:08
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xsacha	ok good, yeah just restart X	07:08
max_	how do i do that?	07:08
sebastian222	hello. Please I need some help with Kaffeine	07:08
sebastian222	i can't open it	07:08
Jucato	Ctrl+Alt+Backspace restarts X	07:08
max_	oh ok, i didnt know that wa what that was	07:08
max_	what*	07:08
max_	ok, brb	07:08
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sebastian222	help me please	07:09
sebastian222	hello?	07:10
sebastian222	please i need help	07:10
manchicken	With what?	07:10
sebastian222	Kaffeine	07:10
manchicken	Anybody know how to set up RoR?	07:10
manchicken	What about it?	07:10
sebastian222	it won't open	07:10
luca	alt+f2 kaffeine	07:10
luca	as first	07:10
sebastian222	i already reinstall it and it doesnt work	07:10
Jucato	sebastian222: try starting it from the command line. in Konsole, type "kaffeine" (without the quotes)	07:11
sebastian222	doesn't work	07:11
Jucato	sebastian222: do you get error messages?	07:11
DaSkreech	!doesnt work	07:11
sebastian222	it shows like loading and then nothing	07:11
sebastian222	no error msg	07:11
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Jucato	sebastian222: did you do/change something before this happened	07:12
sebastian222	nothing	07:12
Jucato	hmmm	07:12
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sebastian222	i use it yesterday but today it wont open	07:12
max_	ok, back....now try to run photoshop again?	07:12
xsacha	yes	07:12
sebastian222	i didn't change anything	07:12
mattg	i just installed ubuntu 6.10 on my other pc and the add/remove tool complains when i try to install an application. it says: Konversation cannot be installed on your computer i386 Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type. It says this on every application i try to install	07:13
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xsacha	mattg: Adept or Add/Remove?	07:13
mattg	Add/Remove	07:13
Jucato	sebastian222: ok, try this. go to ~/.kde/share/config and delete kaffeinerc and go to ~/.kde/share/apps and delete the kaffeine folder. logout then log in again.	07:13
max_	xsacha: same errpr	07:14
sebastian222	oh thx man	07:14
xsacha	max_ then those wacom must still be there :S	07:14
xsacha	paste xorg.conf?	07:14
max_	i got rid of them all though	07:14
luca	DaSkreech: file editing with Kword is HORRIBLE	07:14
luca	at least for images	07:14
max_	xsacha: nah im goin to sleep, thanks for the help though xsacha	07:15
Jucato	mattg: Konversation should already be installed by default though. are you on a 64-bit system?	07:15
xsacha	:( ok	07:15
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osiris	!restricted formats > osiris	07:15
xsacha	Jucato: i think he's using Ubuntu :S it comes default on 64-bit and 32-bit kubuntu	07:15
Jucato	ah yeah... sorry	07:15
Jucato	:P	07:15
mattg	<jucato> Konversation was just an example. It says that with anything i try to install	07:16
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xsacha	mattg: Adept works though?	07:17
Jucato	xsacha: you yourself said he's on Ubuntu :)	07:17
mattg	wheres Adept?	07:17
xsacha	oh.. Synaptic?	07:17
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xsacha	System menu mattg	07:18
sebastian222	Kaffeine still doesnt work	07:18
Jucato	sebastian222: "sudo apt-get remove --purge kaffeine" then reinstall it. that should get rid of the config files	07:19
Jucato	other than that, I'm clueless as well...	07:19
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draik	Jucato, I fixed the firefox issue	07:19
luca	no wait Jucato	07:19
mattg	synaptic is working, but wont let me search for what i want	07:19
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Jucato	draik: nice! :)	07:19
xsacha	mattg: fetch updates?	07:19
draik	yup	07:19
luca	he will want to delete the .kaffeine folder too	07:19
Jucato	oh there's a .kaffeine folder?	07:20
luca	mattg: do it on the console	07:20
luca	erm...yes?	07:20
luca	in the home folder	07:20
xsacha	i dont have one :S	07:20
sebastian222	Jucato: found a solution! it was running hide in background even after the restarts	07:20
Jucato	luca you mean ~/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine ?	07:20
luca	do a 'view hidden folders' in the home folder...	07:20
luca	Jucato: oh yes	07:20
xsacha	ls -a \| grep kaff says zilcho in home folder	07:20
Jucato	sebastian222: lol! that simple? hehehe	07:20
luca	I did not check, I just was saying in general	07:20
Jucato	luca: I already said that )	07:20
Jucato	:)	07:21
sebastian222	pretty simple, and weird i must say	07:21
sebastian222	thx for the help man	07:21
luca	Jucato sorry :)	07:21
Jucato	sebastian222: rawr! next time, I'll remember to ask if it's running in KSysGuard first :)	07:21
sebastian222	lol	07:22
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sebastian222	Jucato: BTW do you know any program like thunderbird but for kde, not for mail just the organizer thing	07:22
Jucato	Kontact	07:23
sebastian222	nice	07:23
Jucato	Kontact integrates KMail, KOrganizer, Akregator, KNotes, and some other stuff	07:23
sebastian222	didn't realized that	07:23
sebastian222	it looks good	07:23
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sebastian222	Thanks again. You've been pretty helpful	07:24
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mattg	apt-get install isn't even working	07:25
Jucato	mattg: what erros do you get using apt-get?	07:25
mattg	E: couldn't find package lame	07:26
mattg	i install lame the other day using apt-get install lame on my other pc and that worked	07:26
Jucato	mattg: do you have your repositories enabled in your sources.list?	07:26
xsacha	try sudo apt-get update	07:26
luca	ok, editing images in kword is KILLING me	07:27
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luca	isn't there any way to make ooffice less system-disruptive?	07:28
mattg	it was pointing to nz.archive.ubuntu.com because that one wasn't working so i changed the nz to us	07:28
Jucato	mattg: but are they enabled? (no "#" at the beginning of the line)	07:29
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mattg	I have four uncommented lines in that file,	07:30
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Jucato	mattg: lame is in the multiverse repo, so make sure that it's added and enabled	07:31
mattg	ok, so ifound the ones to do now. Is it the universe repository?	07:31
luca	same for firefox	07:31
Jucato	!multiverse \| mattg	07:31
ubotu	mattg: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	07:31
luca	they are really good, I do not want to renounce to them :(	07:31
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Ademan	is smb reliable? ie does it do error checking? and will it let me know if something screws up? I want to back up my home folder onto a network drive then re-install ubuntu, any possibility of the home folder backup failing?	07:32
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mattg	ok should i leave universe commented out	07:32
Jucato	mattg: better enable it. since you'll be putting "multiverse" on the same line anyway	07:33
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Zaire	well there doesn't seem to be anyone on in the #ubuntu-xgl channel :S	07:34
lawrence	what is the best laptop for running linux?	07:34
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Jucato	Zaire: maybe they all gave up on it :P	07:34
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Ademan	Zaire: just don't use Xgl...	07:35
Ademan	Xgl is a fugly hack	07:35
Zaire	I want to though	07:35
Zaire	ummm actually stats say its way better then aeroglass	07:35
Ademan	just wait for AIGLX support, AIGLX is the "accepted" way of doing it	07:35
xsacha	Zaire: #ubuntu-glx	07:35
Jucato	at least, more accepted by X.org	07:35
Jucato	xsacha: there is such a channel?	07:35
xsacha	what cards dont have aiglx support yet?	07:35
Zaire	ummm no really	07:35
xsacha	oops, wrong channel	07:36
Jucato	nvidia I think...	07:36
Zaire	Im in that channel already	07:36
xsacha	nvidia has nvidia drivers they dont need aiglx or xgl	07:36
Ademan	and considering X.org isn't publicly traded... cough novell cough i trust it more	07:36
Jucato	xsacha: but for beryl?	07:36
xsacha	yes	07:36
Jucato	Ademan: Qt is publicly traded :)	07:36
mattg	Well the good news now is that the Add/Remove tool is now co-operating? thank you all.	07:36
Ademan	which is why i don't use it	07:36
Ademan	that and the shitty licensing...	07:37
xsacha	nvidia doesnt need aiglx OR xgl :)	07:37
Jucato	so I presume you don't use KDE?	07:37
Ademan	i put up with Gtk+ becakse of that	07:37
Ademan	Jucato: not this computer, my other one though	07:37
Jucato	ah...	07:37
Zaire	gnome sucks lol	07:37
Zaire	even linus torvalds says use linux	07:37
xsacha	LOL	07:37
Ademan	AIGLX is accelerated indirect rendering which is a technique not just the project that brought it about	07:37
Jucato	ok no wars here	07:37
xsacha	you mean kde	07:37
Zaire	rather KDE	07:37
Jucato	!language	07:37
ubotu	Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.	07:37
Zaire	yea Im doing a million things at ones	07:38
Zaire	once*	07:38
osiris	!java > osiris	07:38
Ademan	i'm seriously tired of distro/de flame wars	07:38
Ademan	i use KDE on one computer GNOME on the other, so what?	07:38
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Ademan	i don't like Qt's licensing so i don't personally code in it	07:38
xsacha	xfce+beryl ftw	07:38
Ademan	who really cares?	07:38
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Zaire	kde is just better in my opinion lol	07:38
Zaire	to each their own though	07:39
Ademan	exactly	07:39
Ademan	but anyways, #ubuntu is being totally useless, does smb provide error checking?	07:39
Ademan	i wanna back up my home folder to a network drive and then reinstall edgy	07:39
Ademan	but i don't wanna find out "hey half my files are corrupted"	07:40
xsacha	tab completion is just too awesome (in konsole)	07:41
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Zaire	so anyone in here qualified to help me get XGL fully setup?	07:41
Jucato	xsacha: you'll discover that tab completion works on package names as well (apt-get/aptitude)	07:41
xsacha	yep yep.. folder names, just regular command	07:42
xsacha	gives you a list of possibilities..	07:42
Zaire	Ive followed all of the necessary steps in this help so far https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy#head-b9843696e5a3946c5a010759c00b3a6d40e0b0e6	07:42
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xsacha	Zaire: if you use aiglx, you only need to install beryl+emerald and then type in "beryl-manager"	07:42
xsacha	from a clean install	07:42
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Zaire	I think thats what that help is	07:43
xsacha	yeah Zaire, the one you linked isnt about XGL?	07:44
Zaire	k thats different	07:44
xsacha	so that wont help you setup xgl	07:44
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xsacha	it's for aiglx	07:46
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untung	hello	07:47
untung	have anybody install ubuntu and suselinux on one hard drive?	07:48
unix_infidel	untung: yea, its quite easy.	07:48
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unix_infidel	and very well documented, do a quick google and you'll find some decent tutorials.	07:48
Jucato	of course as lont as they're on different partitions :)	07:49
Jucato	s/lont/long	07:49
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osiris	can the same sources.list be used for kubuntu 6.06 and ubuntu server 6.06 ?	07:50
unix_infidel	i'd recommend just using a virtual machine. its much easier if its just to play around with.	07:50
untung	unix_infidel will suse overide the grub boot manager?	07:50
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unix_infidel	untung: it'll do what you want it to do.	07:51
Jucato	untung: only if you say so	07:51
unix_infidel	untung: like i said, google for a good 5 minutes, youll get a bunch of results.	07:51
unix_infidel	its a fairly simple process, but i'd still recommend setting up a virtual machine.	07:51
Jucato	however, if you choose to keep Ubuntu's GRUB, you have to manually configure it to include entries for SUSE	07:51
untung	unix_infidel: will search it in google	07:52
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untung	unix_infidel: what virtual machine run on ubuntu	07:53
Zaire	ok XGL seems to be kinda working minus I don't have the ability to minimize windows	07:53
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xsacha	i avoid all problems by just overwriting with a good conf file of lilo after an install :D	07:53
unix_infidel	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine	07:54
Jucato	VMWare, Qemu (not sure about Xen)	07:54
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unix_infidel	untung: maybe that'll explain something more abstractly for you.	07:54
unix_infidel	Jucato: xen can do everything :P	07:54
Jucato	er.. VMWare is virtualization, Qemu is emulation... gotta remember that...	07:54
Jucato	unix_infidel: well haven't tried it yet. if they have a repo for Ubuntu, I'm willing to try :)	07:54
xsacha	and wine is not an emulator...	07:54
xsacha	geez so confusing :P	07:55
Jucato	xsacha: hahah	07:55
xsacha	win emulator	07:55
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roycebarber	Has anyone successfully ran SecondLife??	07:57
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Zaire	ok you know how with normal kdm you have your menu at the top of windows then the bar with minimize and stuff...well XGL isn't giving me that	07:58
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manchicken	Anybody set up rails with apache in kubuntu?	07:59
unix_infidel	!ROR	07:59
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ROR - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	07:59
xsacha	Zaire: is this with beryl on?	07:59
Zaire	yeps	08:00
xsacha	run "emerald"	08:00
xsacha	emerald is the window decorator required for borders and menu up top	08:01
Zaire	I have it but its like it doesn't want to let me switch themes	08:01
xsacha	!skype 64-bit	08:04
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xsacha	32-bit skype should work fine on amd64 kubuntu right?	08:04
Zaire	nope	08:04
xsacha	:O?	08:04
Zaire	Ive tried	08:04
Zaire	won't install	08:04
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xsacha	dpkg -i --force-architecture skype_debian-1.3.0.53-1_i386.deb ?	08:05
DaSkreech	How Do I find in a PDF?	08:07
xsacha	ctrl+f ?	08:07
xsacha	Zaire: Setting up skype (1.3.0.53-1) ... -- it installed fine.. just wondering how it will run	08:08
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Zaire	dunno	08:08
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Zaire	I gave up on using it in 64 bit	08:08
Abst	How do I select an XScreenSaver?	08:08
xsacha	just gotta sort out this: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory	08:08
xsacha	why you give up on 64-bit ? :S	08:08
DaSkreech	xsacha: You'd think huh?	08:08
xsacha	DaSkreech: what program are you using for PDFs?	08:09
DaSkreech	Kghostview?	08:09
Zaire	didn't think it was possible to use skype in it and didn't feel like messing with it at the time	08:09
Abst	How do you change your ScreenSaver settings	08:09
Jucato	how about KPDF?	08:09
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Zaire	so how do you apply themes with emerald?	08:10
Jucato	Abst: if you installed xscreensaver, it has it's own control module separate from KDE's screensaver settings	08:10
xsacha	emerald-themes	08:10
Jucato	I think you run that configuration module with something like xscreensaver-xxxxxxx	08:10
eilker	hi, instead of rebooting, what commanda can be given from conssole ? kdm etc. ??	08:10
Jucato	eilker: what are you trying to do?	08:10
xsacha	Zaire: by default it will be using a theme, if it appears without borders, there is another issue -- something preventing this	08:10
Jucato	to stop KDE, you can "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" to reboot, "sudo shutdown -R now"	08:11
Zaire	hmmm how's that fixed	08:11
DaSkreech	luca: Sorry whats going on?	08:11
eilker	jucato: to restart kde ?	08:11
xsacha	there's a few issues that could cause that.. first off -- try configure desktop->turn desktop icons on?	08:11
Jucato	eilker: you can just restart X to restart KDE. or "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"	08:12
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eilker	jucato:thanx...	08:13
xsacha	Zaire: skype works :) just needed to put 32-bit qt library in /usr/lib32	08:14
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Zaire	I can't see anything that says turn desktop icons on	08:14
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xsacha	in Behaviour	08:14
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Zaire	nope nothing in there	08:15
xsacha	Desktop->Behaviour->General->Show icons on desktop	08:16
eilker	jucato: "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart" when i give this command mysql-server stops and restarts again ?	08:16
Zaire	its already on	08:16
xsacha	try turn it off then on?	08:16
Jucato	eilker: that I wouldn't know	08:16
Zaire	nope	08:16
eilker	!kdm >eilker	08:16
eilker	!gdm >eilker	08:17
xsacha	Zaire: ati or nvidia?	08:17
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Zaire	nvidia 6100 256 meg onboard	08:17
xsacha	ok you need this option in xorg.conf ..	08:17
xsacha	Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"	08:18
xsacha	it should be in Device section (but it depends on driver version)	08:18
Zaire	it said to put that in the screen section in the help :S	08:19
xsacha	yeah different driver version uses screen	08:19
xsacha	to check if it worked in screen:	08:19
xsacha	cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log \| grep AddARGB	08:19
xsacha	if it says the option is not used, you'll need to put it in device section..	08:20
Abst	How do you install a new style	08:20
Zaire	foxfire@foxfire-desktop:/etc/X11$ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log \| grep AddARGB	08:20
Zaire	(**) NVIDIA(0): Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"	08:20
xsacha	what does: xdpyinfo \| grep ARGB say?	08:22
xsacha	or glxinfo \| grep ARGB	08:23
Zaire	didn't give me anything	08:24
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xsacha	try set \| grep ARGB	08:26
xsacha	does it show XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 ?	08:27
Zaire	seemed to do nothing just dropped down a line	08:27
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xsacha	hmm	08:28
xsacha	not sure if it's on or not	08:28
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xsacha	seems like it isn't..	08:29
Zaire	well thats just it though its behaving like XGL just missing the top bars on the windows	08:30
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xsacha	Zaire: but you're not using XGL?	08:31
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Zaire	well it seems to be just kinda incomplete	08:32
xsacha	are you using aiglx/XGL or nvidia drivers now? :S	08:32
Zaire	Im not 100% on that at the moment :S	08:33
xsacha	cause that howto you were using was for aiglx, but you keep saying xgl	08:33
Zaire	well then AIGLX	08:34
Zaire	thats the help I followed anyway	08:34
xsacha	cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log \| grep AIGLX ?	08:34
Zaire	ok that didn't show me anything :S	08:35
xsacha	ok, so you're not using aiglx..	08:35
xsacha	ps -ae \| grep X	08:35
Zaire	well thats odd	08:35
Zaire	4098 tty7 00:01:20 Xorg	08:36
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xsacha	you're not in xgl either	08:36
xsacha	is beryl working?	08:36
Zaire	good question	08:36
xsacha	can you alt+drag a window and it wobbles?	08:36
Zaire	yep	08:37
Zaire	rotating desktop	08:37
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xsacha	must be using nvidia drivers, hmm	08:37
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Zaire	interesting lol	08:38
xsacha	i dont know anything about the new nvidia drivers..	08:38
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KDEfanboy	anyone have amarok with xine->esd output know what packages are necessary to make it work?	08:40
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Endler	So, Jucato, what IS Kubuntu's policy on interim bugfix package releases?	08:43
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Jucato	Endler: not really sure. I'll ask around and tell you if I come up with anything	08:43
shantanu_	my adsl connection is stable on windows but keeps dropping on linux	08:43
shantanu_	"(	08:44
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Mehercle	hi	08:44
Jucato	Endler: but I guess it depends if the bug fixes will be put in a KDE 3.5.6 release or not	08:44
Mehercle	i need a program to rip dvd's >> ogg theora	08:44
Mehercle	with a gui	08:44
shantanu_	anyone?	08:44
Jucato	Endler: there are chances that it might go into edgy-updates and/or edgy-security	08:44
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Endler	Well, I have a feeling 3.5.6 is a long ways off as more and more effort gets redirected towards 4.0	08:45
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Jucato	Endler: then they might go into -updates	08:45
shantanu_	my adsl connection is stable on windows but keeps dropping on linux	08:46
Endler	Well, the bug I'm talking about is so severe that regular Debian had block on Kmail until the bug was fixed.	08:46
shantanu_	anyone?	08:46
shantanu_	"(	08:46
Jucato	sorry shantanu_, I have no idea about it	08:46
shantanu_	:/	08:46
xsacha	Bareword "ls" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1. any ideas?	08:47
[cf] nightrid3r	i need a program to rip dvd's to divx with a gui	08:47
fignew	shantanu_: is there an error?	08:47
fignew	check the command dmesg	08:48
Zaire	weeee spinny desktop lol	08:48
DaSkreech	Gnight!	08:48
DaSkreech	Jucato: Testing KDE4 Part Duex?	08:49
Jucato	DaSkreech: um nope. :)	08:49
Jucato	no reason to... at least not yet	08:49
shantanu_	i can see the link button flickering on the modem	08:49
shantanu_	button=led	08:49
DaSkreech	What's in it	08:49
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DaSkreech	I read the release annuncement but it wasn't very verbose other than Don't try ti if you aren't brave and Code more KDE4 apps	08:50
xsacha	afaik not much visual put into kde4 yet	08:50
Jucato	DaSkreech: well, that basically it :)	08:50
Jucato	just more code changes, and being able to run a KDE 4 full session, I think	08:51
DaSkreech	Nope I wouldn't expect much till the last spit and shine section	08:51
DaSkreech	I'm still vexed about Tenor not being in there	08:51
Jucato	DaSkreech: Strigi might replace it	08:51
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DaSkreech	No Strigi might be a backend for fast search	08:51
DaSkreech	I don't know about it being contextual	08:51
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Jucato	http://www.vandenoever.info/software/strigi/	08:52
xsacha	apparently, there is a prototype of this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/36658-1.jpg in the latest svn trunk for KDE4	08:52
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DaSkreech	xsacha: What's the 1950's shadow effect supposed to be?	08:53
xsacha	which shadow effect?	08:53
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DaSkreech	The leaf	08:55
xsacha	mm i dun care about the shadow :P	08:56
DaSkreech	Oh so whats' so exciting about it then?	08:57
xsacha	lol you were looking at the shadow	08:57
Jucato	hahah	08:57
Jucato	it's an example of strigi methinks?	08:57
DaSkreech	I fail to see that	08:58
xsacha	you dont see the image being dragged from conqeuror into contact menu showing a menu of actions?	08:59
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DaSkreech	Right the shadowy thing	08:59
xsacha	shadow?	08:59
DaSkreech	The 1950's shaodw effect	08:59
xsacha	oh you mean the drag effect?	08:59
DaSkreech	Like Millon dollar man running	09:00
DaSkreech	Yeah :-P	09:00
xsacha	i think that's just to show where it came from.. don't think that's actually in it -- dont know	09:00
xsacha	it's just showing the drag to contacts menu from konqueror	09:00
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DaSkreech	Nice concept though	09:01
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Jucato	that's why I don't rely on screenshots to actually	09:02
Jucato	er.. to actually "see" functionality	09:02
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DaSkreech	Well I'm talking about the strange create Communicate configure menus	09:03
yahalom	hey guys can someone tell me what the repos for edgy are?	09:03
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yahalom	or where i can find them?	09:03
DaSkreech	!edgy	09:03
ubotu	Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)	09:03
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Jucato	yahalom: if you're on Dapper, just change all "dapper" into "edgy" (at least for the official Ubuntu repos)	09:04
Jucato	yahalom: are you trying to upgrade?	09:04
yahalom	Jucato, yes but i get an error, i think its because i used the ubuntuguide.org ones, can u show me yours?	09:05
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Jucato	https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Jucato	09:05
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yahalom	Jucato, thanx man	09:07
Zaire	I think I figured out my problem...I never activated my nvidia drivers	09:08
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yahalom	Jucato, it kind of stays on 0% waiting for headers, is this cos there a lot of downloading?	09:09
Jucato	yahalom: could be. or maybe a problem with your connection or routing... not really sure	09:09
Jucato	did you just copy the sources.list that I had?	09:09
yahalom	Jucato, yes	09:10
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yahalom	well my connections are fine	09:10
Jucato	yahalom: maybe you should try changing to your local servers? adding us. or uk. etc	09:11
yahalom	k thanx	09:12
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DaSkreech	Night!!!	09:14
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Jucato	Day!!	09:15
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BderenorCaine	hi	09:15
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BderenorCaine	Anyone here not idling who might be willing to help me with some problems with the 6.10 release ?	09:23
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BderenorCaine	Anyone?	09:25
Endler	I'm here, but I've only had Kubuntu on my notebook for a couple days and I'm on my Desktop right now.	09:26
Jucato	try asking your question. if someone knows, they might answer :)	09:26
BderenorCaine	HA! i don't even know where to begin, but oh well - i'll try ;)	09:26
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BderenorCaine	nope	09:27
BderenorCaine	sound	09:27
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Endler	run alsaconfig, lol	09:27
Jucato	ah...	09:27
BderenorCaine	not exactly...	09:27
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Endler	Well, that's usually the right answer :)	09:28
BderenorCaine	since the new release the dsp and dsp1 devices are assigned to my devices randomly at boot, rendering my configuration of arts useless about 50% of the time...	09:28
BderenorCaine	and thats just the start	09:28
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Endler	Sounds like a udev problem	09:29
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BderenorCaine	i thought so too	09:30
BderenorCaine	but i don't really have that much experience with udev	09:30
Endler	You should be able to hardcode the drivers before udev does it's thing.	09:31
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Endler	Not sure where in the file system you'd do that in Kubuntu though	09:31
BderenorCaine	hm	09:32
duck_	hi I'd like to know if it is possible to download a kubuntu alternative cd (w/out live desktop; including only console installation)	09:32
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duck_	the live-cd runs too slowly for everyone I give it too	09:32
BderenorCaine	Jucato, since this has nothing to do with wireless or printers, what are your thoughts on this one?	09:32
Endler	Yes, they have that.	09:32
Jucato	my thoughts ran away.... I'm not very good with hard stuff	09:33
Jucato	er... hardware stuff	09:33
duck_	Endler: is it on the main kubuntu downloads page? I can't find it.	09:33
Jucato	duck_: it's called the Alternate Install CD	09:33
dude_	jucato!	09:33
Jucato	the Desktop (Live) CD requires a bit more RAM to run, because it runs a full desktop in your RAM	09:33
Jucato	hi dude_! :)	09:34
duck_	Jucato: I see it there for dapper, but I'm looking for edgy's	09:34
BderenorCaine	don't. it'll juggle with your soundcards	09:34
duck_	Jucato: I think I found it	09:34
Jucato	:P	09:34
Endler	I don't think your problem is that big of one, I just don't happen to know the answer offhand. I'm about 99% sure someone on the forum would be able to give simple instructions on how to manually assign drivers to devices.	09:34
BderenorCaine	okay	09:35
BderenorCaine	i'll try the forum then	09:35
duck_	I'm downloading it: oh yeah!	09:35
Endler	There are probably several sleeping people in here who could help you too :)	09:36
duck_	edgy is so good. I installed it for my mom and sister who had no prior linux experience and they are very satisfied	09:36
duck_	they have dual-boot option, but they actually prefer ubuntu	09:36
B-Minus	does anyone know any fun multiplayer games i could play on my laptop ?	09:36
BderenorCaine	wesnoth	09:36
B-Minus	i have openttd and armagetron	09:36
B-Minus	they are good	09:36
BderenorCaine	if your'e into strategy	09:36
B-Minus	wesnoth ?	09:36
Endler	Every windows user I've changed over to a KDE desktop setup has been pleased with it too :)	09:36
B-Minus	is that a good game	09:37
duck_	install truecombatelite	09:37
duck_	it is a great fps multiplayer game	09:37
BderenorCaine	again, if youre into strategy and don't worry about graphics that much, wenoth is the best choice i think	09:37
duck_	also bzflag is surprisingly fun	09:37
Endler	It's very easy for Windows users to transition to. Esp if you install FF and Thunderbird and they've already been using that on Windows.	09:37
Endler	They hardly notice the change.	09:37
B-Minus	duck_: i have a laptop it doesnt have a 3D card :p	09:37
B-Minus	only intel 950	09:37
BderenorCaine	however, i also have problems with arts. amarok-arts doesn't work (i Can press the play button, but it doesn't do anything). also, the arts output module of xmms makes it crash	09:38
duck_	B-Minus: my mom and sisters laptop has the same thing going on	09:38
duck_	B-Minus: ubuntu still runs much faster than windows, but I'm not sure if thats because of the windows mal-ware or what	09:38
B-Minus	duck_: and they can play bzflag ?	09:38
duck_	duck: no, I hadn't tried that. But isn't there ubvuntu documentation for getting 3d out of the intel 950?	09:39
duck_	duck: I'm sure I came across that somewhere; -there is official documentation for it	09:39
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B-Minus	yes i can play 3D stuff	09:40
B-Minus	but its not that fast	09:40
Endler	It sure is nice not to have 75 differnet anti-viral, anti-trojan, and anti-spyware programs running in the background.	09:40
Endler	That alone speeds things up :)	09:40
Endler	And eventually they all end up getting tagged with something sooner or later anyway.	09:41
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duck_	B-Minus: I think truecomabt would not work well, but bzflag would be fine for you	09:41
duck_	it'll run with very minimal graphics	09:41
B-Minus	ok ill give it a shit	09:41
B-Minus	shot	09:41
B-Minus	:p	09:41
amichai	guy this isnt working. i can connect to the repos to do an update, just when it downloads headers it remains stuck at 0%	09:42
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B-Minus	maybe i can also try xmame ?	09:42
B-Minus	those games are also fun ?	09:42
amichai	when i upgrade to dapper earlier it worked, so it really seems to be something with the repos, any ideas?	09:42
amichai	do they need a key?	09:42
Endler	I only have 256MB RAM on my Notebook, so I wasn't expecting KDE to run well, but was pleasantly surprised.	09:42
duck_	Endler: I don't know how windows user can stand it. My friend actually said that it was fun to scan for and find all of the virus' on his computer. He would do it every day and his laptop was very slow from all of the malware	09:42
duck_	:)	09:43
Endler	Kubuntu is running fine on my NB.	09:43
B-Minus	my kubuntu boots up in 30 seconds :)	09:43
Endler	I can do without that kind of "fun." :)	09:43
jsgotangco	Endler: 256 is pretty fine really	09:43
B-Minus	and i even havent tweaked it	09:43
duck_	B-Minus: you are lying	09:43
B-Minus	duck_: nope	09:43
duck_	B-Minus: wow	09:43
jsgotangco	Endler: i can even run it on 192 with just a little waiting time	09:43
duck_	B-Minus: wow	09:43
duck_	B-Minus: wow	09:43
duck_	B-Minus: WOW	09:43
B-Minus	:p	09:43
B-Minus	maybe i can tweak it so it will be faster	09:44
Endler	KDE isn't really "bloated" at all.	09:44
duck_	B-Minus: I'll bet you have women jumping for you, what with those kind os impressive linux skills...	09:44
Endler	People just assume it must be because it has so many features.	09:44
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Zaire	weeee aiglx works lol	09:45
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thill2708	why is it that when I unplug my wired connection I lose my routing information, and my default device doesn't switch over to my wireless connection?	09:45
Endler	Chick dig Linux gurus, huh? :))	09:45
Endler	chicks	09:45
duck_	I was surprised by how light ubuntu was; everyone in the gentoo forums say ubuntu ios bloated, but I don't think they've ever tried it	09:46
Healot	Endler: only rich gurus :)	09:46
Endler	What about cute ones. :)	09:46
duck_	Endler: Just tell them that you write your own scripts and watch what they do!	09:46
Healot	Endler: cute and rich i guess )	09:47
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Jucato	a cute and rich Linux guru?	09:47
Endler	I'll have to give that a try duck :))	09:47
Jucato	that's a rare breed	09:47
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Healot	duck_: in matter of install and packaging, yes	09:47
Healot	in functionality, ubuntu kinda rocks	09:47
thill2708	anyone? bueller?	09:47
thill2708	bueller?	09:48
BderenorCaine	they're not listening	09:48
Healot	Jucato: yes, that I'd agree to	09:48
duck_	Endler: I'm just joking, I told a girl something like that and she thereafter stopped hanging out with me: true story	09:48
Jucato	Mark Shuttleworth might be one...	09:48
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craftycorner	found four windows viruses on my linux box	09:48
craftycorner	in my email	09:49
Healot	Mark? i don't know about him being cute; rich, maybe :)	09:49
Endler	The main thing that makes Linux faster or slower is that number of superfluous processes launched at startup.	09:49
craftycorner	so glad don't use windows anymore	09:49
jsgotangco	craftycorner: they're just there...	09:49
craftycorner	i know, I plan to ditch them tho, being good netizen 4 windows friends	09:49
gobi	yea, i moved my workstation off windows the other day. it's been a good conversion so far.	09:49
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craftycorner	Novel's in bed w microsucks	09:50
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duck_	Novell sucks. They have the crappiest package-management ever.	09:50
Endler	Wow, duck. Maybe you need to rework the delivery. ;)	09:50
jsgotangco	duck_: chill dude	09:51
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duck_	jsgotango: I just finioshed a big espresso. You should see how quickly I am typing and glancing around right now. I'm like a fiend or something.	09:51
Endler	I kind of liked Suse, but you're right, Yast is slow as molasses.	09:51
craftycorner	I still run windoze for the hardware, but surf exclusively Linux	09:52
duck_	jsgotango: make that double-espresso	09:52
amichai_	how can i force upgrade to overwrite a file?	09:52
jsgotangco	duck_: sweet i love a caffeine high sometimes	09:52
amichai_	trying to overwrite	09:52
amichai_	i want to force it to overwrite	09:52
duck_	jsgotango: yeah its fun isn't it?!	09:52
craftycorner	only waiting 4 Linux to catch up w the hardware, or my budget or one or the other...	09:52
duck_	jsgotango: its like the fun part of getting drunk, but with more control and no hang-over	09:53
thill2708	why is it that when I unplug my wired connection I lose my routing information, and my default device doesn't switch over to my wireless connection?	09:53
jsgotangco	craftycorner: its a nice thing that majority of hardware actually do work on a free software platform but there are still a major few that don't	09:54
Endler	You'll get one hell of a splitting withdrawal headache though if you ever go cold turkey on the expresso though.	09:54
craftycorner	yea, I know.	09:54
jsgotangco	so next time, don't get an ati or nvidia :)	09:54
craftycorner	thankfully, the free stuff is secure as hell and acts as a bubble 4 the pay	09:54
x0x	hi guys, wondering if anyone can help me, i upgraded to edgy the other day, and im having a wierd problem.. my usb (logitech) keyboard and mouse seem to hang randomly during any session	09:54
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x0x	i think that it could be the whole usbcore thats stopping, cos when this happens, everything thats connected to a usb stops working	09:55
x0x	anyone have a solution?	09:55
craftycorner	when XP gets dumped, I won't be left helpless like all the poor folk running 98, they need to toss a Linux VM aboard	09:55
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jsgotangco	x0x: can you do dmesg before and after your usb is plugged in, then file it as a bug in malone with a nice description of what happens	09:55
Endler	Linux has extremely good hardware support in many areas (rivaling windows), but poor support in a couple of areas.	09:56
thill2708	also, how can I remap my laptop keyboard to pick up all the keys again? I was messing around with xgl/beryl, and it somehow lost some of the correct keybindings	09:56
craftycorner	I've 98 on an old machine, can I stuff a Linux VM on it, even tho it's only 4 gig hard drive?	09:56
x0x	jsgotangco: will do	09:56
Endler	Like wifi, video, and certain brands of printers.	09:56
jsgotangco	craftycorner: the VM might be really really slow	09:56
craftycorner	oh:/	09:56
jsgotangco	craftycorner: especially if your host machine isn't that great in terms of hardware specs	09:56
Electrolyte	So, has anyone heard the news of Microsoft announcing Linux partnership?	09:56
craftycorner	sucks hard	09:56
craftycorner	yea, about wet my pants	09:57
Endler	No, I haven't.	09:57
duck_	Electrolye: link?	09:57
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Electrolyte	http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB116249026689311557-lMyQjAxMDE2NjAyMjQwOTIwWj.html	09:57
duck_	Electrolye: thnx	09:57
x0x	jsgotangco: do you think it could be a problem with APCI?	09:57
jsgotangco	x0x: i dont see any connection at all	09:57
craftycorner	or Kubuntu? <sp>	09:58
Jucato	guys, let's try to keep things on topic for those asking support questions.	09:58
honza	Hello	09:58
thill2708	Can anyone help me manage my routing problemo?	09:58
craftycorner	I mean, can this merger cause problems w us Kubuntu users	09:58
Jucato	Electrolyte, craftycorner, Endler: you are more than welcome in #kubuntu-offtopic for this discussion :)	09:58
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jsgotangco	craftycorner: not really	09:59
duck_	thill2708: ? what's the problem ?	09:59
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honza	I'm having problem with hibernation... I've compiled my own kernel, and the original edgy hibernation doesn't work. What should I have enabled or compiled in 2.6.18 kernel?	09:59
thill2708	Well, when the ethernet cable is plugged into my laptop, I can get on the net just fine, like now for example.	09:59
xsacha	honza: dpms?	09:59
Endler	Sounds like MS wants to lock everyone into one vendor with can start charging on par with them and make linux less of the thorn for them	09:59
thill2708	I check my routing table, and I have a route correctly set for eth0 and eth1. However, when I unplug the cable, the routing information goes away for eth1 as well, rendering it useless. Wtf?	10:00
Endler	I don't think their intentions are good, by any means.	10:00
honza	xsacha I don't understand. Dpms? That's a function?	10:00
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Jucato	Endler: please?	10:00
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jsgotangco	Endler: that's subjective, man by nature only has good intentions for itself	10:00
ehird	hm	10:00
duck_	thill2708: eth1 is internal and eth0 is external?	10:01
xsacha	honza: does suspend or standby work for you?	10:01
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ehird	any ideas why on My eBay, clicking the dropdown appears for a sec then is replaced with brown?	10:01
thill2708	duck_: other way around	10:01
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amichai_	guys this package xterm is preventing me from upgrading, do i remove it?	10:01
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Endler	That's not true. Only a subset of the population is only out for themselves and they want to convince everyone else that it is their nature too.	10:02
duck_	thill2708: sorry, I don't know what the problem could be	10:02
thill2708	heh	10:02
honza	xsacha Suspend works, standby as well, but hibernation doesn't. The system seems to hibernate himself, but then it boot as normally.	10:02
duck_	http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml	10:02
xsacha	that's odd..	10:02
duck_	thill2708: maybe something in there will give you an idea	10:03
Endler	Damn, these channel are serious productivity killers.	10:03
Endler	Time just slips away. :)	10:03
honza	xsacha yes. Shouldn't something be added into the menu.lst of the grub?	10:04
Endler	Goodnight everyone.	10:04
thill2708	ok, then gents, how 'bout this? How do I have kubuntu redect my laptop keyboard to regain teh control of the "fn" keys?	10:04
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duck_	thill2708: if you are on a toshiba, there is support for that	10:05
thill2708	acer	10:05
duck_	thill2708: but you have to install something	10:05
honza	thill2708 acer travelmate?	10:05
thill2708	nah, it was detected fine on install	10:05
thill2708	yeah	10:05
duck_	thill2708: oh, nevermind	10:05
thill2708	travelmate 4402	10:06
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duck_	thill2708: is that a tablet pc?	10:06
thill2708	nope, lappy	10:06
mike__	:+	10:06
honza	thill2708 I have 240, most of the blue buttons works fine, exept the mute button, which wasn't detected, and the volume, which i needed to set manually	10:06
thill2708	hm, interesting. Mine were all fine, then xgl/beryl totally lost it for me	10:07
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nino	anyone know of a good antivirus that can also scan windows partitions??	10:09
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ehird	so no ideas?	10:10
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duck_	nope	10:11
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MidMark	guys someone has problem mounting dvd? I thought before was a problem with k3b doesn't close sessions, but now I think mounting dvd with one session is broken	10:12
MidMark	anyone else?	10:12
omicron	nino: clamav?	10:13
craftycorner	avast is a good one, can sniff windows viruses	10:13
craftycorner	I sniffed windows crap in my email.	10:13
omicron	nino: with the frontend klamav its quite nice	10:13
nino	cool, im trying clamav now thx!!	10:13
craftycorner	avast allows you to sniff the whole drive	10:14
craftycorner	can clam?	10:14
nino	ive got it on my ipcop firewall to scan mail so i think so	10:14
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omicron	as the drive is only a mounted filesystem it can =)	10:14
BderenorCaine	drwxrwxrwx 6 dominik root 4,0K 2006-11-02 02:00 hdb2	10:14
BderenorCaine	?--------- ? ? ? ? ? /media/Server	10:14
BderenorCaine	drwxrwxrwx 5 root root 4,0K 2006-10-29 11:02 sdb1	10:14
BderenorCaine	this isn't good, is it ?	10:15
nino	i want to plug and play hardrives for virusses	10:15
nino	so im setting it up on a isolated kubuntu box	10:15
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x0x	js	10:16
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BderenorCaine	that was an "ls /media"	10:16
BderenorCaine	part of it	10:16
craftycorner	are there any known Linux viruses that attack via email?	10:16
Healot	none	10:17
nino	not that i know of hey	10:17
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Healot	well, maybe some embedded rootkit	10:17
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Healot	if you're good enough to use root all the time :)	10:17
BderenorCaine	any ideas what this might be ?	10:18
x0x	anyone help me out? i upgraded to edgy recently, and now since upgrade, my usb (logitech) mouse and keyboard keep hanging at random times during a session	10:18
craftycorner	I don't open crap in email I don't know from folks I don't know, and few use Linux	10:18
x0x	the only way to get it working again is to reboot	10:18
nino	thats the safest	10:18
x0x	i rmmod, and then modprobe again, still doesnt work	10:18
x0x	reboot is needed for it to start working again	10:18
craftycorner	the only way I know to get into root is alt+f2	10:18
BderenorCaine	...please ?	10:19
x0x	it seems to be the whole usbcore thats hanging, as my ipod would also stop when the mouse and keyboard stop	10:19
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craftycorner	is that correct? alt+f2 is root?	10:20
nino	I LOVE LINUX!!!!	10:20
Zaire	I love AIGLX lol	10:21
x0x	lol	10:21
craftycorner	nino?	10:21
nino	yea	10:21
Healot	eye candy, eye candy bleh	10:21
Zaire	lol wobbly windows lol	10:21
nino	lollies	10:21
Zaire	lol spinny desktop lol	10:21
x0x	can anyone help\|	10:21
x0x	?	10:21
xsacha	craftycorner: alt+f2 just runs a command... ?	10:22
xsacha	you'd want kdesu or sudo for it to work as root	10:22
craftycorner	ah ok	10:22
nino	kdesu from the run command	10:22
craftycorner	I gotta do that if I wanna delete something lol	10:22
craftycorner	right	10:22
xsacha	you can use any method to do that too, konsole for eg.	10:22
xsacha	dont have to use alt+f2	10:23
craftycorner	but I don't do that 4 email hehehe, so no can do to catch cooties	10:23
xsacha	lol@cooties	10:23
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xsacha	hey i was wondering, does gnome have anything big lined up like KDE4?	10:23
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craftycorner	I did a big update a bit ago	10:23
BderenorCaine	hey, i was wondering, can anyone HELP me ?	10:24
x0x	how do i get my mouse and keyboard to start working again?	10:24
nino	dont know, only that microsoft are launching a sh$tier version of windaz => V1St4!!	10:24
craftycorner	No VM's allowed	10:25
Mehercle	V1$st4	10:25
craftycorner	what kinda mouse & keyboard u got?	10:25
Mehercle	V1$t4	10:25
nino	Vista	10:25
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Mehercle	V1$t4	10:26
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craftycorner	A Vista mouse and keyboard? Yuck! You may have a problem	10:26
Mehercle	lo	10:26
Mehercle	lol	10:26
nino	lol	10:26
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Mehercle	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_PowerShell	10:27
x0x	i got a logitech wireless mouse and keyboard	10:27
Mehercle	yuck	10:27
craftycorner	I bought the suckiest, most generic mouse and keyboard available, mouse 14, keyboard 34.	10:28
nino	cool im gonna terminate some virusses now, clamav is up and running!! Systems go@	10:28
x0x	keeps on hanging in edgy	10:28
craftycorner	you may be able to get someone to help you mix up a deb batch to get em to play w your Linux. you got the cd they came w?	10:28
nino	mwahaahaaa	10:29
x0x	but i dont think its got to do with the mouse and keyboard.. there must be something conflicting in usbcore	10:29
craftycorner	your puter under warrenty?	10:30
craftycorner	I mean hardware?	10:30
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craftycorner	how many usb ports u got?	10:31
x0x	4	10:31
craftycorner	and are your keyboard & mouse in two or in one?	10:31
x0x	one	10:31
craftycorner	put them in a dif port	10:32
x0x	keyboard and mouse with wireless receiver	10:32
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craftycorner	kk, put wireless in dif port	10:32
x0x	worked fine in dapper, now that ive upgraded to edgy it randomly hangs	10:32
craftycorner	could be prob w 'hand shake' between mouse and reciever	10:32
x0x	i dont think its the mouse and keyboard that are hanging though, it seems to be the whole of usbcore	10:32
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craftycorner	I'm stumped	10:33
x0x	no cos when this happens, my ipod, and anything that is plugged into usb stops working	10:33
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craftycorner	i gotta get some sleep	10:36
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MidMark	none with dvd mounting problem?	10:39
ehird	how do I use a > pipe to copy stderr?	10:39
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ehird	:/	10:43
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Lynoure	ehird: first hit with google with "copy stderr": http://www.thisishull.net/showthread.php?t=22734	10:45
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glotzbac	Hello. I'm not sure whether this is the right place to ask, but does anybody know where I could find a list of 3rd party repositories available on the net? I couldn'	10:45
glotzbac	I couldn't find any such list in the official places. Did I not look hard enough?	10:46
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alumno	QUIERO EL ESPAOL	10:47
alumno	ME PARECE Q ES KUBUNTU ES	10:47
Lynoure	!se	10:48
ubotu	Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se	10:48
Lynoure	oopn	10:48
Lynoure	!es	10:48
ubotu	Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.	10:48
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Lynoure	glotzbac: I do not think there is a comprehensive list anywhere as anyone can set up a repository.	10:49
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Lynoure	glotzbac: but see e.g. http://kaisman.free.fr/dotclear/index.php?unofficial-list-kubuntu-606-dapper-drake-repositories	10:50
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Ash-Fox	"It looks like your version of ClamAV is out of date! ClamAV-0.88.5 is the most recent version available. Would you like KlamAV to download and compile it for you?" <- Hm, that's going to break things I think.	10:51
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glotzbac	Lynoure: Thank you	10:52
Lynoure	glotzbac: Be careful with them.	10:53
ehird	Ash-Fox: anti-virus? i thought this was linux ;)	10:53
glotzbac	Lynoure: It's ok I guess. I only needed a place to start looking from. This is as fine as I had hoped :-)	10:54
glotzbac	Lynoure: But would there be a place where all those with their own little repositories would announce them?	10:57
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stamen	hi	10:59
stamen	ho to check am I with Edgy or I am still with dapper	11:00
CVirus	stamen: cat /etc/issue.net	11:00
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stamen	ok I will try	11:01
nino	anyone know the command for chmod read and write permission??	11:01
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stamen	CVirus: I am still with dapper	11:02
stamen	how to upgrade	11:02
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CVirus	!upgrade	11:02
ubotu	See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)	11:02
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CVirus	stamen: this page is all what you need	11:03
CVirus	stamen: just follow it strictly	11:03
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omicron	nino: chmod +r filename puts read permissions on that file	11:04
omicron	nino: chmod +w writing permissions	11:04
stamen	CVirus: ok 10ks	11:05
CVirus	stamen: no problem	11:05
Hobbsee	!grub	11:07
ubotu	grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	11:07
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xsacha	!lilo	11:10
ehird	why is amarok lagigng my machien in the systray even tho it has no processes open	11:10
xsacha	ehird: amarok isnt running?	11:11
xsacha	like it has no window/	11:11
ehird	xsacha: bingo, i just fixed it tho	11:11
xsacha	kill it? :)	11:11
ehird	the point is it doesn't show up in ps -A	11:11
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xsacha	ps ax \| grep amar ?	11:12
xsacha	sudo killall amarok :D	11:12
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ehird	i did	11:15
ehird	it seriously wasn't running :p	11:15
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nino	omicron: thnx	11:21
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Zaire	how do you change the font color for the cli konsole?	11:23
Hobbsee	!samba	11:26
ubotu	samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT	11:26
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abattoir	Zaire: Settings->Configure Konsole	11:27
Hobbsee	!sharing	11:27
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about sharing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	11:27
Hobbsee	!share	11:27
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	11:27
abattoir	Zaire: choose the colours through the 'Schema' tab	11:27
shinobi2	hi	11:27
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Zaire	I can't see any color stuff for the fonts though :S	11:28
Zaire	Im using transparent konsol and want to keep it that way and just change the font color	11:29
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Jucato	Zaire: that would be the Foreground color in the dropdown list (Scheme tab)	11:33
nino	Zaire: goto configure konsole	11:33
nino	yep	11:33
nino	Konsol color	11:34
Zaire	k thing is I just want the text color different	11:34
Jucato	Zaire: Schema tab: Shell color drop-down list. 0 - Foreground color controls the color of main font, while 1 - Background color controls the background colors/transparency	11:35
nino	just play around with those 2 settings!!	11:36
Zaire	I have been for an hour	11:36
nino	lol	11:36
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Jucato	Zaire: then just edit that part that I told you, the "0 - Foreground color" controls the primary font color	11:37
Zaire	was on wrong schema	11:37
Jucato	:P	11:38
nino	u see!!	11:38
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Zaire	well atleast it lets you use hex colors	11:39
Zaire	thx	11:39
Zaire	now only issue I have left is why my beryl isn't letting me rotate my desktop as a cube anymore :S	11:40
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Zaire	meh i'll work on that later its late gtg	11:42
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mikel28	the name of the file free_config.py in the 'setup' folder is unlogical?	11:56
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mikel28	i would rather think that its an example for freevo.conf	11:58
mikel28	instead of loca_conf.py	11:58
mikel28	shIT wrong chan.	11:58
MidMark	anyone with dvd mounting problem?	11:58
Jucato	...	11:58
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ie	can some explain how to turn on num lock automatically on boot please and also where to show the most recently used programs (start menu) setting is (Edgy)	12:01
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ie	also ... Just installed Edgy 6.10 (fresh install). Whenever I go to shut down the computer, the Kubuntu splash screen is displayed with the progress bar and then I get a message 'System Halted' but the machine does not shut down automatically. Any ideas how to fix please?	12:03
kay_	hello i try to install the vmware-workstation (not the free player) so i download the tar.gz file and there ends my know how :-( how can i go on to install it?	12:03
ehird	kay_: you don't want to use vmware workstation	12:04
kay_	ehird: sure i want	12:04
xsacha	anyone know how to get sound on videos in youtube?	12:04
ehird	kay_: no, you don't	12:04
kay_	ehird: why?	12:04
ehird	kay_: because it'll be harder to use than untaring a tar.gz file so you'd better master that first :p	12:05
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kay_	ehird: sure you are right but i used the vmware already but i dont know ow to handle a tar.gz (i know it i unpaked it already but how do i go on?)	12:06
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ehird	kay_ is it source code or a binary?	12:07
nickste	does edgy have mp3 support built in?	12:07
kay_	ehird: binary	12:07
ehird	kay_ then just run it	12:07
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ie	sorted num lock	12:09
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ehird	SOME CAPATCHAS ARE STUPIDLY LAME.	12:17
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rav3n	why do i have to dhclient everytime to get the internet connection up and working...how cani fix that to work automatically ???	12:20
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ehird	I have a game binary in a tar file off my game CD. What would I do if I wanted to make it install itself in the usual directories for software and so i could remove it with, say, dpkg?	12:23
ehird	Does checkinstall work on binaries?	12:23
[cf] nightrid3r	ehird: nope checkinstazll only works on sources	12:24
ehird	[cf] nightrid3r: damn. any other ideas, people?	12:24
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Ash-Fox	<ehird> Ash-Fox: anti-virus? i thought this was linux ;) <- I run a lot of Amiga/DOS/Windows software under Linux. Since ClamAV can identify windows and dos viruses, I see it stupid not to be prepared.	12:26
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yahalom	i'm trying to upgrade to edgy and i get this and i get an oveerite error	12:27
yahalom	can someone help me?	12:27
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yahalom	rying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin'	12:27
yahalom	i tried sudo apt-get -f install and it doesnt fix it	12:28
Ash-Fox	You might want to quote the exact message, so we can at least guess what you were trying todo.	12:28
yahalom	E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin', which is also in package fglrx-6-8-0	12:28
Ash-Fox	yahalom, are you following the instructions on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade ?	12:28
pointwood	how is kitchensync supposed to be used? I just installed it, but I don't see it anywhere?	12:28
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yahalom	Ash-Fox: didnt know about it	12:29
Ash-Fox	pointwood, no idea what that is, but you could hit alt + f2 and run it from there.	12:29
[cf] nightrid3r	yahalom: fglrx probably doesn't get updated ???	12:29
yahalom	[cf] nightrid3r: so what do i do, i removed fglrx	12:29
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SlimG	I've packed ioquake3 i386 deb package, although this package require one additional file from the orig. quake3 cd, is it still acceptable it to upload it into the universe?	12:30
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[cf] nightrid3r	yahalom: could help, its an opengl driver	12:30
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yahalom	[cf] nightrid3r: i removed it, still get problem	12:30
ehird	So, no ideas?	12:30
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_Shade_	how do i automatically set up my tv tuner on kubuntu?	12:31
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Ash-Fox	SlimG, I think that goes into multiverse, since multiverse contains other quake/doom stuff too.	12:32
yahalom	[cf] nightrid3r: i removed it, still get problem apt-get -f install it wont fix it	12:32
yahalom	Ash-Fox: apt-get -f install wont fix it	12:33
[cf] nightrid3r	yahalom: strange hmmm	12:33
Ash-Fox	yahalom, remove fglrx	12:33
Ash-Fox	sudo apt-get remove fglrx	12:33
SlimG	Ash-Fox: But ioquake3 is GPL'ed, shouldn't GPL'ed stuff go into universe?	12:33
yahalom	Ash-Fox: E: Couldn't find package fglrx	12:34
[cf] nightrid3r	SlimG: it depends on non-gpl stuff	12:34
_Shade_	any idea? (i mean the tv-card in edgy)	12:34
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wozzlle	hello all	12:34
Ash-Fox	SlimG, well, look at the current packages. I see lxdoom in universe, doom-legacy is in multiverse, quake2 is in multiverse..	12:34
SlimG	[cf] nightrid3r: Oh i forgot about the CD	12:35
wozzlle	can someone here suggest a linux app for converting a dual audio divx to a svcd?	12:35
wozzlle	mpeg*	12:35
ehird	well okay, just one thing	12:35
[cf] nightrid3r	_Shade_: use dmesg to see if your card is recognised	12:35
Ash-Fox	SlimG sudo apt-get remove fglrx-6-8-0	12:35
ehird	where are most apps stored on kubuntu? i'll drop the game executable in /usr/bin and the rest in there..	12:35
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Ash-Fox	Er yahalom	12:35
yahalom	Ash-Fox: fglrx-6-8-0	12:35
SlimG	So it belongs in multiverse, is there any extra strict rules that should apply to the pack before beeing upped? like man pages and docs?	12:36
ehird	it seems to be in /var/lib/<app>. is that right?	12:36
yahalom	Ash-Fox: when i try to remove it i get this: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin', which is also in package fglrx-6-8-0	12:36
Ash-Fox	SlimG, not that I'm aware of.	12:37
yahalom	Ash-Fox: whatever i do i get this	12:37
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Ash-Fox	yahalom, I've never had that problem, but let's see...	12:37
_Shade_	[cf] nightrid3r what should i look for then?	12:38
[cf] nightrid3r	if your card shows up in the listing	12:38
Ash-Fox	yahalom, try sudo dpkg --force-all --remove fglrx-6-8-0	12:39
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yahalom	Ash-Fox: Removing fglrx-6-8-0 ...	12:40
yahalom	Ash-Fox: now try upgrade again?	12:40
yahalom	Ash-Fox: apt-get -u dist-upgrade	12:40
yahalom	?	12:40
pointwood	hrm - where do I find bluetooth devices?	12:40
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Ash-Fox	yahalom, try the instructions on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade from the dist-upgrade command	12:40
yahalom	Ash-Fox: same error man	12:41
ehird	i'll just do it	12:41
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yahalom	Ash-Fox:	12:41
yahalom	Errors were encountered while processing:	12:41
yahalom	/var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6_i386.deb	12:41
yahalom	E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)	12:41
yahalom	sorry longer than i thought	12:41
Ash-Fox	yahalom, sudo dpkg --install --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6_i386.deb	12:42
Ash-Fox	yahalom, are you using fglrx by any chance?	12:42
yahalom	Ash-Fox: well i searched for it, the onyl installed is flgrx-6-8-0	12:43
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yahalom	Ash-Fox: ok it worked bro	12:43
ehird	alright, i'm just gonna ask again. i have a tgz with a game binary and its files needed, should i make a symlink in /usr/bin pointing to /var/lib/<game name>/<game executable> and dump all the files in /var/lib/<game name>?	12:43
yahalom	Ash-Fox: i think so at least	12:43
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Ash-Fox	yahalom, alright. Let me know if you have any problems :)	12:43
yahalom	Ash-Fox: thanks man, u made my day	12:44
[cf] nightrid3r	ehird: seems the easy way to go if you ever want to delete the game	12:44
yahalom	Ash-Fox: (maybe?!?)	12:44
ehird	[cf] nightrid3r: alright, thanks	12:44
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ehird	amusing how a hacking sim using *nix filesystem paths ingame requires lots of manual stuffs to install nicely on linux :D	12:45
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_Shade_	[cf] nightrid3r: 17179710.160000] Linux video capture interface: v1.00?	12:46
Hobbsee	!xcfg	12:46
ubotu	The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto	12:46
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ehird	how do i make a symlink via the console?	12:48
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gobi	ln -s file.ext symlink.ext	12:48
ehird	gobi: thanks	12:48
Ash-Fox	ehird, ln -s /bin/bash /home/name/tomato	12:48
gobi	np	12:48
[cf] nightrid3r	_Shade_: thats it so it should just work	12:49
Ash-Fox	gobi, blah. Was trying to figure out how to phrase that :P thought of /source /destination, but that would be confusing :P	12:49
ehird	ehird@ehird-desktop:/usr/bin$ sudo ln -s /var/lib/uplink/uplink uplink <-- will that have done the trick	12:49
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Ash-Fox	ehird, if /var/lib/uplink/uplink exists, yes.	12:50
ehird	ash-fox: it does, it's the game executable :)	12:50
Ash-Fox	And if var/lib/uplink/uplink is executable.	12:50
ehird	ok, time to test	12:50
ehird	wish me luck guys	12:50
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ehird	:p	12:50
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omicron	just installed beryl...nice.. did not expect it to run on my machine..g	12:50
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ehird	=( alt+f2, "uplink", gives the executable icon but nothing happens	12:51
ehird	ah, idea	12:51
ehird	how do i get the permissions of every file in a dir?	12:51
Ash-Fox	ls -ll	12:51
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ehird	there's my problem, i either need to give others rwx permissions or change chown to ehird	12:52
ehird	i think i'll do the latter	12:52
Ash-Fox	!uplink	12:52
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about uplink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	12:52
ehird	uplink is a game :p	12:52
Ash-Fox	I know it is.	12:52
ehird	alright, well it should work now	12:53
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ehird	nope	12:53
ehird	same	12:53
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ehird	i'll try running in terminal	12:53
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ehird	!pastebin	12:54
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)	12:54
ehird	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30014/ nay ideas?	12:54
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universi	Someone with Prism isl3886?	12:55
Ash-Fox	universi, no, but would you like help with it anyway?	12:56
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ehird	ah, i know the problem	12:56
universi	i have kubuntu edgy	12:56
ehird	the symlink is executing the game as if it's in /usr/bin	12:56
ehird	i'll change the symlink into a bash script that cds to the game dir	12:56
universi	kubuntu recognize my card	12:57
universi	and my card find my wireless network	12:57
universi	but don't work DHCP	12:57
universi	ideas?	12:58
_Shade_	[cf] nightrid3r well... but i cannot get a display in tvtime, so i guess i can't set it up properly. Is there any app to guide me through it easily?	12:59
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[cf] nightrid3r	_Shade_: kdetv	01:00
_Shade_	[cf] nightrid3r ok thanks mate. I'll try it	01:01
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Ash-Fox	universi, and you're using the wifi manager?	01:06
Ash-Fox	*wireless lan manager	01:06
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speedy	I've install kubuntu-desktop package, but i couldnt login into KDE, getting "could not start kstartupconfig. check your installation" msg.. any idea on how to get it working?	01:12
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universi	yes	01:13
universi	Ash-Fox: yes	01:14
Ash-Fox	speedy, try kbuildsycoca	01:14
Ash-Fox	Then try to login using KDE again.	01:14
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speedy	Ash-Fox what is that?	01:15
Jucato	in a terminal or Alt+F2, type in "kbuildsycoca"	01:15
Ash-Fox	speedy, rebuilds certain menus, mime things and a few other things.	01:15
speedy	as root?	01:15
Jucato	no	01:15
Ash-Fox	No.	01:15
speedy	ok	01:15
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Ash-Fox	universi, what is your wireless card device called?	01:16
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speedy	thanks	01:19
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universi	Gemtek WL850FJx (Conexant)	01:21
Ash-Fox	No, the device name, like eth0, ath0 etc.	01:21
universi	:D sorry	01:21
universi	eth2	01:21
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Ash-Fox	Assuming it's really a DHCP problem, it could be caused by your /etc/network/interfaces file, try editing it, 'kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces', and remove any line that mentions 'eth2'. Restart your system, and try using the wireless assistant again.	01:23
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mikel28	i cant access my mounted drive with a normal user account, to what group should i add myself to have access?	01:25
universi	ok, i'll try this	01:25
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hazard	you should mount the drive with a group equal to yours	01:29
hazard	mikel28^^	01:30
mikel28	ahhh ok thanks hazard- im always mounting me stuff with sudo	01:30
hazard	or setup something like autofs to do it for you	01:30
hazard	yes, the same sudo mount [blah blah blah] will work	01:31
mikel28	hmmm well, im using the drive only in my shells (almost)	01:31
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thyko	how do i install all packages including the 'recomended' ones from the command line?	01:31
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hazard	you just need to add the options to have it mount with your GID (or maybe your UID too/instead if you're the only one to use it)	01:31
wk	i have problems with the radeon driver on my edgy on notebook with a ati mobility radeon 9000 (M9) - directrendering doesn't work - someone here who can elp?	01:32
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hazard	autofs is a kernel module that using some fairly simple config files will auto mount file systems when you try to access them (it slightly less useful to a system with a GUI but works great on systems without their own automounters)	01:32
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hazard	it can be setup to unmount the drive/partition/network drive/pretty much anything once not in use and a certian amount of time has passed	01:33
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thyko	any ideas?	01:33
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mikel28	hazard: sounds great - im going to look into that autofs automount stuff :)	01:33
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hazard	autofs is more like 'an automatic way to enter the same sudo'd mount& automatic unmouting commands'	01:34
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hazard	it isn't that that hard to configure, just search around on google for example configuration files, or tutorials	01:34
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Jucato	thyko: "sudo aptitude -r <package>"	01:34
hazard	it took me abit to figure out but once you do its pretty easy to understand and configure to what you want.	01:34
myesterious	hi	01:35
Jucato	thyko: although the default behavior of aptitude is already to install including the recommends	01:35
Jaeke555	bimberi: umm, one more try, do you know how I can set this machine to a domain, or maybe manually configure the DNS / gateway / ip addresses?	01:35
myesterious	the package of (K)Ubuntu is newer than Debian unstable ?	01:36
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hazard	GAH!!	01:39
hazard	this is driving me nuts: how can I have kubuntu startup with the capslock on?	01:39
Jucato	hazard: System Settings -> Keyboard	01:39
hazard	that...should have been obvious thanks.	01:40
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hazard	You know, even though pentium 1s/IIs are slow as...slow...I think I like them better than these new (to me) amd 1ghz+ chips. (the ones with the bare dies)	01:44
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fildo	!vncserver	01:48
ubotu	vncserver: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.7-12ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 541 kB, installed size 1244 kB	01:48
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thyko	Jucato: gracias	01:52
larson9999	i've got the edgy blues	01:52
hazard	how so?	01:52
Jucato	thyko: no problem. :)	01:52
Kabal	Hi all, in KDE rightmouse click Copy to & Move to.. how can I extend the list of paths?	01:53
larson9999	hazard: was that for me?	01:53
hazard	yes	01:53
Kabal	Where can I find the option to extend the path list?	01:54
Kabal	I saw it a while ago.. and never found it back :(	01:54
xsacha	wow, alt + down/up arrow key in konqueror is nice :) how can i alter the speed?	01:54
Jucato	Kabal: what do you mean by "extending"?	01:54
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Kabal	more history more paths that are remembered	01:54
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larson9999	hazard: oh, updated my son's computer to edgy. things seem to work ok except wine. i did finally get wine to install so most things work but the thing he using the most doesn't install: firefox 2.0.	01:55
hazard	yea, that counts.	01:55
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hazard	as blues I mean	01:55
xsacha	Kabal: form completion?	01:55
Kabal	If I rightmouse click now on a file it will remember 5 latest paths.	01:56
xsacha	hmm..?	01:56
Jucato	aah	01:56
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hazard	hi xsacha	01:56
xsacha	hi	01:56
Kabal	it's possible to raise that to say 10 paths?	01:56
Jucato	xsacha: the ones below the Copy To/Move To	01:56
xsacha	ahh	01:56
Jucato	xsacha: btw, were you talking about alt+up/down or shift+up/down?	01:57
xsacha	oh yeah, shift	01:57
Jucato	:P	01:57
Kabal	I just can't find the option again.. I know it exsists	01:57
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SHRIKEE	all of the sudden my wifi wont work anymore :S	01:57
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Jucato	xsacha: just press the up/down arrow longer, while pressing the shift key. it will speed up	01:57
xsacha	ok	01:58
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xsacha	ahh i can stop with shift, but if i press shift again it goes back to the same speed :)	01:59
Hobbsee	!ssh	02:00
ubotu	ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/	02:00
Jucato	xsacha: nice, isn't it? :)	02:00
xsacha	yes, these things i never knew about :D	02:00
Jucato	hehe	02:00
xsacha	going to try some more keys	02:00
Jucato	whoa! my Edit as Root is back!!! yipeee!!!	02:00
thyko	"my edit as root'?	02:01
Jucato	xsacha: you already know how to turn off the Access keys? (the yellow boxes that appear when you press Ctrl)	02:01
thyko	!icecast	02:01
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about icecast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	02:01
Jucato	thyko: the "Edit as Root" service menu in Konqueror. I sort of lost it...	02:01
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xsacha	oops, wrong key	02:02
Jucato	lol	02:02
Jucato	don't tell me you pressed Ctrl+Q?	02:02
Kabal	nobody knows where to find the option?	02:02
Jucato	still looking for it Kabal...	02:02
teledyn	wow i just discovered a cool little utility called ncal	02:02
thyko	aah, that	02:02
teledyn	totally rad, a little ascii calendar in your term with date highlighted	02:03
Kabal	Jucato: thanx :)	02:03
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Kabal	Jucato: me too.. I found it months ago.. never found the option again..	02:04
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xsacha	no, i pressed sysrq i think	02:07
xsacha	pressed a lot of keys	02:07
SHRIKEE	can anyone help me with my wlan?	02:08
Jucato	Kabal: I found it, but you won't be happy :)	02:08
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ehird	how to i check if i'm using an amd64 processor? i think i am but... :p	02:08
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SHRIKEE	uname -r	02:09
Kabal	Jucato: ?? hehe	02:09
Kabal	Jucato: Is the option gone?	02:10
universi	Ash-Fox: I try to comment lines in /etc/network/interfaces where appers "eth2"	02:10
Jucato	Kabal: er... I might not have found it after all... but the bad news is that even if you find it, it won't make much of a difference	02:10
Jucato	Kabal: the maximum remembered paths... is 6	02:10
Kabal	Jucato: 6???	02:10
universi	but not work	02:10
Jucato	yes	02:10
Kabal	where do I find this option?	02:10
rhodri	hi, my screen goes blank after 10 minutes of activity, but as far as i can tell my screensaver is off and i can't find any power settings that are effecting this? it's annoying the hell out of me, can anyone help?!?! thanks.	02:11
Jucato	SHRIKEE: uname -r will only show you the kernel you are using, not necessarily your processor	02:11
Jucato	ehird: try KInfoCenter	02:11
rhodri	cat /proc/cpuinfo for processor info	02:11
SHRIKEE	hmm i just saw that yes	02:11
SHRIKEE	uname -m does show the cputype	02:12
Jucato	Kabal: I'm not really sure it would be in there, but you can try launching KControl. Alt+F2, then type in "kcontrol", look for KDE Components -> File Manager -> Quick Copy & Move tab	02:12
ehird	what the, kinfocenter says I have a 1.00ghz cpu, and last time i checked it was 1.8ghz o.O	02:12
SHRIKEE	ehird, maybe acpi throttled it	02:12
ehird	SHRIKEE: what would cause that to happen/is it fixable	02:12
cpk1	laptop and pentium = you will get throttled =P	02:12
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SHRIKEE	its a setting in power management	02:13
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Jucato	ehird: you'll see somthing in the model name and model	02:13
cpk1	ehird: you on a laptop?	02:13
SHRIKEE	lower speed is less power	02:13
ehird	cpk1: nope	02:13
cpk1	ehird: pentium?	02:13
SHRIKEE	but amd cool 'n quiet does cpu throttling aswell ;)	02:13
ehird	Jucato, cpk1: AMD sempron 3100+. no laughs please :p	02:13
SHRIKEE	sempron	02:13
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SHRIKEE	pfft :D	02:13
Jucato	ehird: mine is even slower	02:13
ehird	not my choice D:	02:14
Jucato	sempron 2200	02:14
SHRIKEE	:P	02:14
cpk1	didnt know amd throttled	02:14
ehird	meh. it runs doom 1, so hah!!	02:14
myesterious	If i want to get the version of some package = debian , Can i download and use that packapge and its dependencies from debian packages site ?	02:14
SHRIKEE	amd can throttle with cool 'n quiet	02:14
SHRIKEE	i had that in windows	02:14
SHRIKEE	and i hated it :(	02:14
Kabal	Jucato: Thanx for the quick search :) 6 is not much.. but it's one more than default.	02:14
Kabal	but why only 6 .. doesn't make sense to me.. but anyway that man :)	02:14
xsacha	my amd laptop has throttling	02:14
Jucato	Kabal: you found it?	02:14
ehird	SHRIKEE: where would this power management be	02:14
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ehird	i would like to disable the silly limiting :D	02:14
Kabal	Jucato: jup :)	02:14
Jucato	KInfoCenter reports my GHz correctly	02:14
cpk1	ehird: if you want you can disable acpi at boot	02:14
SHRIKEE	in system settings	02:14
Jucato	Kabal: I'm presuming you're running a default Kubuntu installation right? Dapper or Edgy?	02:15
SHRIKEE	can anyone help me out with my wlan?	02:15
ehird	cpk1: would this be dangerous :P	02:15
SHRIKEE	no, ehird	02:15
Jucato	myesterious: it's is not good to mix and match packages from different repositories/distributions	02:15
ehird	SHRIKEE: i can't see power management in system settings..	02:15
SHRIKEE	im on a laptop so for me its called different i think	02:15
Kabal	Jucato: jup Dapper	02:16
Jucato	ehird: what is the model of the processor that KInfoCenter reports? you gave the model name. maybe the model number will give you a clue if it's 64-bit	02:16
Kabal	Jucato: for quite a while now.. and it's running great'	02:17
ehird	Jucato: it isn't 64bit. it's an AMD sempron 3100+, i'm repeating myself myself here here :p	02:17
SHRIKEE	...	02:18
ehird	!!!	02:18
SHRIKEE	my wifi still wont work... :P	02:19
SHRIKEE	hint	02:19
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rhodri	hi, my screen goes blank after 10 minutes of activity, but as far as i can tell my screensaver is off and i can't find any power settings that are effecting this? it's annoying the hell out of me, can anyone help?!?! thanks.	02:19
xsacha	hey what's the power manager thing if you arent using a laptop? if i try to run guidance it says "no laptop found"	02:19
cpk1	!work	02:19
ubotu	Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.	02:19
cpk1	SHRIKEE: whats wrong with it? =)	02:20
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SHRIKEE	well it worked this morning	02:20
ehird	oh, i never noticed the Advanced tab.	02:20
SHRIKEE	i was watching a movie over it	02:20
ehird	oops.	02:20
Jucato	xsacha: the one under Monitor and Display?	02:20
SHRIKEE	then all of the sudden it lost connection	02:20
SHRIKEE	and wont connect ever since	02:20
SHRIKEE	im using edgy	02:20
SHRIKEE	and wlassistant	02:20
SHRIKEE	which worked fine for a week	02:20
cpk1	does iwlist scan show you network still?	02:20
ehird	but no power settings.	02:20
SHRIKEE	yes it scans everything	02:21
SHRIKEE	but when i try to connect it fails	02:21
SHRIKEE	no errors are given :(	02:21
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xsacha	Jucato: which one in monitor & display? i heard someone say to run the power manager or something before and it shows info on your processors?	02:21
shadowhywind	hay all, i was wondering whats the difference between teh DVD and the CD version?>	02:22
Jucato	ah that I wouldn't know... never got that kind of power manager working...	02:22
SHRIKEE	dvd version should go on a dvd	02:22
SHRIKEE	duh :)	02:22
cpk1	dvd version has the live and alternate install	02:22
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shadowhywind	i know that, silly.	02:22
cpk1	and a bunch of repos I think	02:22
Jucato	shadowhywind: DVD is a Live DVD with an alternative text based installer, plus everything in main and restricted. and I guess some universe stuff too	02:22
SHRIKEE	^^	02:22
SHRIKEE	anyway, cpk1, got any idea?	02:22
shadowhywind	would the DVD have linux headers installed?	02:23
cpk1	nuke wlassistant and do it the old fashioned way? =P	02:23
cpk1	i dont really know, is it a native driver?	02:23
SHRIKEE	i need profiles :(	02:23
SHRIKEE	its a ipw2200 i think?	02:23
cpk1	my ndiswrapper can get cranky sometimes	02:23
shadowhywind	EEVVVIIILLLL!!!!!! ipw2200	02:23
SHRIKEE	shush you, shadowhywind	02:24
shadowhywind	i get to reset one of those up this weekend	02:24
SHRIKEE	its a intel 11g card	02:24
ehird	what's an easy way to restart kde without restarting linux? need to test my login screen	02:24
SHRIKEE	in my laptop	02:24
cpk1	ehird: you could actually just start another session	02:24
shadowhywind	ehird control + alt + backspace	02:24
shadowhywind	will restart X	02:24
cpk1	you wouldnt even have to stop your current session	02:24
ehird	shadowhywind: but won't give me the login screen.	02:25
cpk1	and that is not the nice way of doing it shadowhywind	02:25
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shadowhywind	oh poo! your right, sorry ehird	02:25
SHRIKEE	..	02:25
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ehird	maybe there's a command to like "logout, butstartagraphicalloginscreenagain". So, logout and restart X	02:26
ehird	me no likey restarting :(	02:26
cpk1	ehird: did you pay attention to anything I said?	02:26
SHRIKEE	ehird, theres this button to test your login screen	02:26
Jucato	ehird: do what cpk1 suggested	02:26
SHRIKEE	in the thing where you select which screen to use	02:26
ehird	cpk: i didn't see :p	02:26
ehird	SHRIKEE: yes, but i need to see the entire bootup process	02:26
SHRIKEE	hmm k	02:26
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cpk1	well I suppose not seeing is better than not paying attention =P	02:27
shadowhywind	shrikee, your having issues with your wireless? and WPA i take it?	02:27
SHRIKEE	wep	02:27
SHRIKEE	not all clients here support wpa	02:27
SHRIKEE	it worked fine till 2 hours ago	02:27
shadowhywind	werid, hehe	02:27
SHRIKEE	yes	02:27
SHRIKEE	:S	02:27
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ehird	so, no way?	02:29
Jucato	<cpk1> ehird: you could actually just start another session	02:29
Jucato	grr	02:29
cpk1	ehird: what do you mean "entire boot up process"?	02:29
ehird	cpk: from login screen to KDE splash, etc.	02:29
ehird	I should just restart. shouldn't I. :P	02:29
SHRIKEE	yes restart and get over with it	02:29
Jucato	ehird: K Menu -> Switch User to test a new KDM theme	02:29
cpk1	ehird: go to kmenu > switch user > lock current & start new session	02:30
Jucato	ehird: you can test Splash Screens by pressing the "Test" button	02:30
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cpk1	ehird: then press ctrl alt f8 if it doesnt automatically switch you to tty8	02:30
SHRIKEE	wicked, now wlassistant tells me that im connected	02:31
SHRIKEE	bt i get no ip	02:31
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SHRIKEE	that would suggest the dhcp is screwed, but other computers get an address just fine	02:31
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SHRIKEE	sigh	02:31
cpk1	SHRIKEE: run dhclient	02:31
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SHRIKEE	in konsole?	02:32
cpk1	yup	02:32
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universi	Appears "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth2: link is not ready" in dmesg... HELP!	02:32
SHRIKEE	!pastebin	02:32
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)	02:32
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SHRIKEE	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30021/	02:33
SHRIKEE	wth does that mean	02:33
cpk1	that means use sudo silly	02:33
SHRIKEE	...	02:33
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SHRIKEE	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30022/	02:34
SHRIKEE	retry :P	02:34
SuperSub	anyone know how to install quicktime browser plugins for Firefox????	02:34
cpk1	now you have an ip =)	02:34
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cpk1	oh wait now	02:34
SHRIKEE	i dont	02:34
cpk1	try dhclient wlan0	02:34
SHRIKEE	thats my wired card	02:34
the_man_stephen	hi, someone told me that Kubuntu Edgy now supported read/write to ntfs. is this true?	02:34
SHRIKEE	eth0 is a wired card	02:35
SHRIKEE	eth1 is wireless	02:35
cpk1	ok then dhclient eth1	02:35
cpk1	i dont actually know if thats an argument though	02:36
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SHRIKEE	tries	02:36
SHRIKEE	bound to 192.168.0.74 -- renewal in 17728 seconds.	02:36
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SHRIKEE	thats the address i usual get	02:36
SHRIKEE	...	02:36
SuperSub	anyone know how to install quicktime browser plugins for Firefox????	02:37
cpk1	ping -I eth1 google.com (i think)	02:37
SuperSub	anyone anyone???	02:37
cpk1	thats a capital i	02:38
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SHRIKEE	shrikee@shrikee-laptop:~$ ping -I eth1 google.com	02:38
SHRIKEE	PING google.com (72.14.207.99) from 192.168.0.74 eth1: 56(84) bytes of data.	02:38
SHRIKEE	64 bytes from 72.14.207.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=100 ms	02:38
SHRIKEE	64 bytes from 72.14.207.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=240 time=101 ms	02:38
SHRIKEE	seems to work	02:38
SHRIKEE	wth :o	02:38
larson9999	the_man_stephen: i've been read/writing to ntfs for a long time and haven't had any issues. seems to be a rift between those who think it's rock solid and those who think it's very dangerous	02:38
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SHRIKEE	yanks the cable out	02:38
the_man_stephen	cheers larson9999	02:39
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cpk1	SHRIKEE: hrmm well thats one way of testing for sure	02:39
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cpk1	and he's dead =)	02:39
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SHRIKEE	still here?	02:40
SHRIKEE	:o	02:40
larson9999	the_man_stephen: don't forget the backup :)	02:40
the_man_stephen	of course ;)	02:41
the_man_stephen	well its nice to have some reassurance that it works, everyone seems to play it down	02:41
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SHRIKEE	well, that didnt work :S	02:49
SHRIKEE	dammit	02:49
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Crembo	hey, does anyone know if there's some DSP plugin for Amarok that lets you use windows winamp plugin dll's?	02:52
cpk1	err what for?	02:53
cpk1	but try #amarok	02:53
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Crembo	well, I have a favourite DSP plugin in winamp that I want to bring over into linux :)	02:53
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SHRIKEE	i still cant connect	02:57
SHRIKEE	i still get no address :S	02:57
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minterior	hi	03:00
minterior	exist an amarok about channel?	03:00
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cpk1	SHRIKEE: sudo ifdown eth1	03:01
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SHRIKEE	what does that do	03:01
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crazy_penguin	hi all!	03:02
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cpk1	SHRIKEE: sudo ifconfig 192.168.0.74 eth1 up	03:02
cpk1	might be wrong syntax though	03:02
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cpk1	SHRIKEE: ifdown brings an interface down	03:03
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cpk1	SHRIKEE: you get anything I said?	03:05
crazy_penguin	i'm upgrading from kde 3.5.3 to 3.5.5 on dapper and at one point dpkg announces me that i have the following dependency problem "kdelibs-bin: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you request: kdelibs4c2a depends on kdelibs-bin (= 4:3.5.3-0ubuntu0.2)"	03:05
SHRIKEE	nope	03:05
alexicon	ok kubuntu firefox is driving me crazy	03:05
SHRIKEE	only the ifdown thing	03:05
cpk1	SHRIKEE: ifdown brings an interface down	03:05
SHRIKEE	i noticed :(	03:06
SHRIKEE	i re-enabled it	03:06
SHRIKEE	but it made no difference	03:06
alexicon	ive installed this dapper kubuntu at least 4 times in the same months.. everytime i install firefox through adept i cannot middle click a link into the page to have it load. i always have to paste into the address bar >_<	03:06
SHRIKEE	i had tried that before, btw	03:06
alexicon	if i install firefox from their site, i can middle click anywhere on a page and a link will load..	03:06
cpk1	SHRIKEE: sudo ifdown eth1 shouldnt disconnect your wired	03:06
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SHRIKEE	i dont get it, everything says im connected... but it wont transmit	03:07
BluesKaj	Howdy All !	03:07
crazy_penguin	could someone tell me if that dependency problem is a true or false?	03:07
SHRIKEE	i know that cpk1	03:07
cpk1	did you turn encryption off to test to make sure thats not the problem?	03:07
SHRIKEE	yes	03:07
Jucato	crazy_penguin: that's normal	03:07
SHRIKEE	and my mum who is on the same ap, has no problems	03:07
SHRIKEE	shes on windows xp home	03:07
Jucato	crazy_penguin: you need to use dist-upgrade	03:07
crazy_penguin	yes	03:07
SHRIKEE	can it be some packet overload?	03:08
crazy_penguin	but i was wondering if i broke or not the system	03:08
minterior	exists an amarok about channel?	03:08
crazy_penguin	because of this dependecy problem	03:08
cpk1	minterior: #amarok	03:08
crazy_penguin	Jucato: i used dist-upgrade from the start	03:08
minterior	cpk1: thx	03:08
BluesKaj	!amarok	03:09
ubotu	amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org	03:09
Jucato	crazy_penguin: no it did not break. kdelibs-bin was replaced by kdelibs4c2a	03:09
cpk1	that needs to be updated	03:09
SHRIKEE	cpk1, got any more ideas?	03:09
cpk1	latest version is 1.4.4	03:09
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cpk1	SHRIKEE: get another ip from the router again with dhclient and then see if another box can ping it	03:10
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crazy_penguin	Jucato: so i didn't make a mistake. (i took a look at that package before i install it and it seemed to be the replacement of kdelibs) but like i said earlier i wanted to be sure. thx Jucato for reassuring me:)	03:11
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SHRIKEE	seems to work	03:11
SHRIKEE	just like 10 minuets ago	03:11
Jucato	!amarok \| cpk1	03:11
ubotu	cpk1: amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org	03:11
B-Minus	anyone using xmame ?	03:11
Chanika	anyone here know how to use chinput? or know of something else that'll let me type chinese characters?	03:12
Jucato	cpk1: done :)	03:12
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cpk1	well imbrandon said he would get around to the dapper package when he had time too =)	03:12
cpk1	Jucato: so expect to update it again sometime soon =P	03:13
Jucato	cpk1: well until that time comes, I don't want to get Dapper users' hopes up :P	03:13
cpk1	well kubuntu.org already does that heh	03:13
Jucato	if it doesn't happen, I don't want to be the one to be burned alive :P	03:13
cpk1	haha	03:13
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cpk1	i wonder if the 1.4.4 source is avaible for dapper?	03:14
CPUFreak91	Hi, I have two sound cards. An internal Via AC '97 and PCI a C-Media 8738. For some reason Edgy always tries to use the internal VIA AC '97 sound card, but I want it to use the PCI Cmedia version.	03:14
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cpk1	probably not i guess	03:14
SHRIKEE	1.4.4 isnt even available for edgy	03:14
SHRIKEE	i tried yesterday	03:14
BluesKaj	yeah cpk1, just upgraded amarok to 1.4.4 in adept	03:14
CPUFreak91	How can I keep the VIA soundcard kernel module from loading?	03:15
cpk1	probably need backports SHRIKEE	03:15
SHRIKEE	cpk1, i can ping anything i want, but nothing else works	03:15
BluesKaj	in edgy	03:15
Jucato	SHRIKEE: it is	03:15
cpk1	BluesKaj: on dapper here =P	03:15
BluesKaj	ok	03:15
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SHRIKEE	so i think the problem is not the wifi itself, but something on this laptop	03:15
BluesKaj	SHRIKEE, it's available now	03:15
SHRIKEE	adept says 1.4.3 is the newest here	03:16
Jucato	on Edgy 1.4.4 is the newest	03:16
SHRIKEE	im on edgy	03:16
Jucato	SHRIKEE: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.4.php	03:16
cpk1	do you have backports? on dapper you needed backports for amarok	03:16
SHRIKEE	yes i know	03:16
SHRIKEE	i dunno	03:17
SHRIKEE	1.4.3 works fine for me	03:17
Jucato	cpk1: well, edgy-backports don't exist yet afaik	03:17
SHRIKEE	i just want my wifi back ;)	03:17
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SHRIKEE	cpk1, i can ping	03:18
SHRIKEE	but nothing else	03:18
BluesKaj	Jucato, what's the "official" Edgy source list ?	03:18
Chanika	does anyone know where I would look for info on typing chinese? google's not helping. the chinput faq is a blank frigging page...	03:18
Jucato	BluesKaj: the default one that is installed?	03:19
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BluesKaj	yeah , I guess so , ...i got mine from jende so it's got a few xtras	03:19
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Jucato	BluesKaj: hehe I made this specially for such questions: wiki.kubuntu.org/Jucato	03:20
cpk1	SHRIKEE: sorry but I am a bit stumped seeing as it is communicating, and I need to go to bed	03:21
SHRIKEE	right	03:21
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SHRIKEE	well thanks anyway, for your time :)	03:21
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SHRIKEE	hahaha	03:21
cpk1	no problem	03:21
Jucato	I have no knowledge of anything wireless	03:21
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SHRIKEE	sleep well, cpk1	03:21
Chanika	and when I try to run chinput I get this:	03:21
Chanika	chinput: Chinput.ad not found.	03:21
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SHRIKEE	i'll just stick to the cable for now	03:22
Chanika	oh, how odd...	03:22
Chanika	chani@doozer:~$ ls /etc/Chinput*	03:22
Chanika	/etc/Chinput.ad.dpkg-new	03:22
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BluesKaj	Jucato, uncommenting is merely removing the # from the beginning of the line ?	03:23
Jucato	yes	03:23
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BluesKaj	ok thx	03:24
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Chanika	blah	03:29
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Chanika	now I get this error: Basic: Cannot open font -------16------big5-0	03:29
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alexicon	im a bit worried about my machine.. whenever i boot now it takes it like 3-5 minutes to get grub up and start spinning disks	03:31
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BluesKaj	hmmm some of imbrandon's sources are 404'd such as: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/edgy/-seveas/source/Sources.gz	03:35
Seveas	it's edgy-seveas, not edgy/-seveas	03:35
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dude	jucato !	03:36
Jucato	hi Seveas! thanks for your Flash 9 package :)	03:36
dude	hello guys	03:36
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Jucato	hi dude! :)	03:36
dude	jucato: how's your day?	03:37
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Jucato	fine, fine :)	03:37
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dude	jucato: ok, cool	03:38
nickste	What is the name of the desktop widget that embeds itself into the desktop and displays things such as CPU usage, etc.	03:38
wilman	i have a logitech quickcam. but it only shows bleu screen	03:38
nickste	got it: SuperKaramba	03:39
BluesKaj	komba2 is listed in lost & found in the k-menu ... is this right ?	03:40
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CPUFreak91	How can I keep a kernel module from loading?	03:42
CPUFreak91	(On Edgy Eft)	03:43
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SHRIKEE	bah!	03:43
SHRIKEE	stupid thing	03:43
Harko	hi	03:43
kimmern	Hey! I've got a really annoying problem here..my fan goes on for about 2 sec..pause 2 sec..runs 2 sec..and so on..never experienced this before..I'm going to throw my laptop out the window soon, cause this makes me really angry to listen to..use a FS amilo L1300..any suggestions?	03:43
Harko	installing kubuntu is easy?	03:44
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kimmern	are there any places I can check the temprature of my laptop?	03:46
kimmern	use kubuntu edgy..	03:46
Mehercle	ye	03:48
Mehercle	s	03:48
Mehercle	install ksensord	03:49
Mehercle	ksensors	03:49
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malegria	hi. trying to see a real media movie (.rm) i always get an error message that cook.so couldnt be found. ideas? i installed a whole bunch of codecs before. using kubuntu edgy eft	03:51
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BluesKaj	the obvious question is, do you have realmedia for linux installed?	03:55
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malegria	do you mean realplayer?	03:55
BluesKaj	yup	03:55
malegria	nope, i added deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main to my repositories but couldnt find it	03:56
Jucato	malegria: that is basically empty.	03:56
malegria	?	03:57
Jucato	I can play .rmvb files in Kaffeine. not sure if I can play .rm files too	03:57
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Jucato	all I have are libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs installed	03:57
Jucato	malegria: the edgy-commercial repository is empty. practically non-existent	03:57
malegria	Jucato: i have those codecs installed too	03:58
malegria	how do i install real player then?	03:58
BluesKaj	i prooly got it from a non free or backport source ...dunno which one tho	03:58
malegria	can i use the dapper rep?	03:58
Jucato	BluesKaj: on Edgy?	03:58
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Trist_an	hello	03:59
BluesKaj	no, origianally in dapper	03:59
Trist_an	I cannot find the ACPI gui in Edgy	03:59
Jucato	yeah, but I think malegria is on Edgy.	03:59
malegria	yep	03:59
Trist_an	In Dapper i had with kcontrol	03:59
Jucato	no problem with dapper-commercial	03:59
Trist_an	but I cannot find it here there	03:59
BluesKaj	i'm on edgy now	03:59
Jucato	Trist_an: have you tried running KControl?	03:59
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Trist_an	Jucato, yes and it's not there	04:00
Jucato	hm...	04:00
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Trist_an	Jucato, I have the small icon for my battery status in the taskbar but there is no great thing to do there exept suspend, hibernate...	04:00
Jucato	I don't know about that.. :(	04:01
Jucato	never played with any power-related thing...	04:01
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BluesKaj	malegria , I'll post a list of some backport sources in pastebin that may contain realplayer ...you can add those to your sources list and see if they work	04:03
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malegria	BluesKaj: i just installed it from the dapper rep	04:04
malegria	thanks!	04:04
BluesKaj	cool	04:04
malegria	but i just get a black screen watching the video :(	04:05
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malegria	any ideas why i cant see the video?	04:08
Sharketor	malegria: whats your problem?	04:08
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malegria	black video watching a .rm-file with realplayer	04:09
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Sharketor	is the file good? Have you tried on another pc?	04:11
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malegria	i tried another file. same	04:12
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Sharketor	wait	04:14
BluesKaj	too bad edgy doesn't have the latest flashplayer installed ...can't watch any youtube :(	04:14
d4d3	hi all	04:14
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Sharketor	I can't solve your problem, sorry	04:15
malegria	ok	04:16
malegria	Blues	04:16
malegria	oops	04:16
Sharketor	malegria: have you seen .rm files before?	04:16
malegria	not on this system	04:16
malegria	its new	04:16
malegria	BluesKaj: have you tried Flash 9 Beta?	04:16
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malegria	http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash	04:17
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d4d3	i have a problem	04:18
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d4d3	it's the first time that i use irc	04:19
Sharketor	malegria: have you installed libstc++5?	04:19
malegria	Sharketor: yes	04:19
d4d3	and i wanna know what i have to do for updating my irc server list	04:19
Jucato	!flash 9 \| BluesKaj	04:19
ubotu	BluesKaj: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html	04:19
Sharketor	what is real player version?	04:19
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malegria	10.0.8.805	04:20
stamen	!flac	04:21
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	04:21
Sharketor	have you downloaded it from repo?	04:21
d4d3	!flac	04:21
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	04:21
malegria	Sharketor: did you mean libstdc++5?	04:22
Sharketor	no, realplayer	04:22
alexicon	ok	04:22
malegria	Sharketor: yes, dapper-commercial main	04:22
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alexicon	can anyone fathom a guess as to why in both dapper and edgy when i try to enable the nvidia-glx drivers, X wont start at all	04:23
Sharketor	well, try to download it from official site	04:23
malegria	Sharketor: i meant before. you wrote libstc++5	04:23
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Sharketor	malegria: libstdc++5	04:23
d4d3	d	04:23
Jucato	alexicon: did you install the correct linux-restricted-modules ?	04:23
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malegria	Sharketor: yep, installed.	04:24
malegria	where do i get the "official" one?	04:24
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BluesKaj	Jucato, I'm using edgy and i have imbrandon's pkgs in my sources list thx	04:24
Jucato	:)	04:25
Jucato	well it's not imbrandon's package. it's Seveas'. imbrandon's hosting it :)	04:25
wilman	how to login as roto?	04:25
wilman	root	04:25
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alexicon	oops will check that again Jucato	04:26
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D4d3	prova	04:26
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Jucato	wilman: why do you need to login as root?	04:26
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wilman	to instal nvidia driver	04:26
Jucato	wilman: you don't need to. just use sudo, like "sudo <command>"	04:27
alexicon	is there a way to start up X from the commandline?	04:27
Jucato	alexicon: startx ?	04:27
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wilman	oo thx	04:27
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Jucato	!nvidia \| wilman	04:27
ubotu	wilman: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	04:27
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basstich	can someone help me to turn off all the annoying sounds when you open and close windows??	04:28
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wilman	go to system settings	04:28
wilman	then	04:28
wilman	notifications	04:28
basstich	wilman - I did - and only left kde start and exit - and the dang stuff still sounds	04:28
wilman	i see the faq and i already tryed that	04:28
basstich	do I have to restart x?	04:29
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Jucato	basstich: there's a drop-down list at the top of that settings window	04:29
Sharketor	malegria: http://www.real.com/linux	04:29
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Jucato	basstich: you only set the KDE System Notifications, not the KDE Window Manager notifications	04:30
wilman	a window closes	04:30
basstich	jucato where do I do that?	04:30
Jucato	basstich: System Settings -> Notifications	04:30
Jucato	there's a drop-down list at the top, where you can choose the "Event source:"	04:30
basstich	looking now	04:30
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wilman	system notification - (choose: the kde window manager ) - a window closes	04:30
wilman	then click on the tiny sound button	04:31
alexicon	Jucato: should i get the -386 or -generic version of linux-restricted-modules	04:31
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Jucato	alexicon: depends on what kernel you are using right now	04:31
alexicon	im an i686 so generic?	04:31
alexicon	oh yeah generic	04:31
alexicon	oh yeah gelol	04:31
alexicon	sorry	04:31
alexicon	soi se	04:31
Jucato	alexicon: use "uname -r" to check	04:32
alexicon	e it there in the uname now	04:32
basstich	jucato - ok - I have notifications open - where is this drop down list	04:32
Jucato	basstich: at the top. the one beside "Even source:"	04:32
wilman	ok	04:32
basstich	I see the event source	04:32
wilman	are you in the system notification screen?	04:32
basstich	and in that box	04:32
Jucato	basstich: click it so that it will go down	04:32
basstich	is KDE system notifications	04:32
basstich	is that the menu?	04:33
wilman	that list	04:33
Jucato	it's called a drop-down list	04:33
basstich	yes... change that to what?	04:33
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Jucato	KDE Window Manager	04:33
basstich	eureka, even	04:33
wilman	anyway	04:34
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wilman	i want to install the nvidia driver. and i have looked through the faq.	04:35
blacksh33p	hiho zusammen	04:35
wilman	i dont understand how i can get repositories to copyright restricted-copyright	04:35
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wilman	there is no such button in my synaptic package	04:36
blacksh33p	mit hats mein adept bzw apt-get zerhaun. hat jemand zeit vllt evtl sich mein problem an zu hren :)? find inx beim googlen	04:36
Jucato	wilman: if you can install linux-restricted-modules-generic already, then you're ok	04:36
basstich	Thanks guys	04:36
Jucato	!de	04:36
ubotu	Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de	04:36
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blacksh33p	thx	04:36
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basstich	c ya later.. first time using linux - and I think winders has a huge new competitor.... MAN KDE is NICE	04:36
basstich	.... now I'll have to figure out how to get some games working - why aren't there many games... oh well...	04:37
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alexicon	ok that was weird	04:43
alexicon	this is weirder still	04:43
alexicon	x has no been configured properly	04:43
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alexicon	all this time it wouldnt start up cos the device was named wrong	04:43
alexicon	the BusID was completely wrong	04:43
alexicon	and all the monitor settings are wrong	04:44
alexicon	stuff like max res is wrong	04:44
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alexicon	yeah and it didnt figure out what my graphics card was either :/	04:46
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WooD	hi 1	04:48
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WooD	is there any software that can log the pppoe connection ?	04:49
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nnn0	isn't there something called ppoe-sniff ?	04:52
nnn0	pppoe-sniff even	04:52
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WooD	nnn0: thanks ill check	04:55
nnn0	never tried it though :)	04:55
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nnn0	hmmaybe that wasn't what you were after	04:57
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buz	why does k3b not actually burn dvd with 8x if i tell it to?	05:01
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buz	will burn at anything from 5 to 8x which isnt good for the media at all	05:01
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etnies	a	05:14
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Marc_	is there any advantage to installing kubuntu over installing ubuntu and then just using synaptic to install kde	05:15
etnies	hello guys can someone connect with putty on my server ? : etnies.shell.la port 22 ssh ?	05:15
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etnies	or they are getting an error on connection ?	05:16
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Jucato	Marc_: smaller/cleaner system	05:16
Marc_	hmm	05:16
Marc_	ok	05:16
etnies	can someone connect ? :\	05:16
Marc_	i just dl'd the ubuntu install last night	05:16
Marc_	i guess i'll dl the kubuntu	05:17
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ketsugi	Why is SpeedCrunch the default calculator app for Kubuntu when it doesn't even seem to be a Qt app? Why not Kcalc?	05:17
Jucato	ketsugi: what makes you say it's not a Qt app?	05:17
BluesKaj	Flash 9 won't install in FF2.0 plugin ...any suggestions ?	05:18
ketsugi	It looks like a Gtk1 app	05:18
Hawkwind	!flash9	05:18
ubotu	Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html	05:18
Jucato	lol	05:18
Jucato	that's your only reason? :)	05:18
ketsugi	Well	05:18
BluesKaj	I have it DL'd it just won't install	05:18
ketsugi	it's not using my themed Qt widgets!	05:18
Jucato	??	05:19
ketsugi	It looks ugly	05:19
ketsugi	therefore it can't be a KDE app	05:19
ketsugi	:P	05:19
Jucato	ketsugi: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=16696 http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=16696	05:19
Hawkwind	BluesKaj: You don't download it. Add the repo and apt-get install it	05:19
BluesKaj	it doesn't show up in the apt-get	05:20
ketsugi	Jucato, look at this	05:20
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ketsugi	Tell me if that looks anything like a Qt app	05:20
ketsugi	other than a Qt app themed to look like Gtk1 :p	05:21
Jucato	ketsugi: I'm not sure what's wrong. but Speedcrunch is definitely a KDE app	05:21
ketsugi	Highly peculiar, then	05:21
ketsugi	I hope there's a way to fix it	05:21
ketsugi	those widgets make me want to claw my eyes out	05:21
Hawkwind	BluesKaj: Add that repo above, and then sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree_9	05:21
Jucato	see that "Clear field" button? (black arrow with X)? that's a KDE/Qt widget	05:22
ketsugi	yeah	05:22
ketsugi	that's the only one, though	05:22
Jucato	the fact doesn't change. Speedcrunch, despite having no "K", is a KDE app :)	05:23
xsacha	ah, i was just looking for a calculator too :)	05:23
ketsugi	SpeedKrunch, dammit :)	05:23
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xsacha	Krunchy	05:24
davids	hi everybody	05:24
BluesKaj	Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree_9	05:24
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davids	https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/69665 can anybody help me?	05:25
sheriff	does anyone use ktorrent?	05:25
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Hawkwind	BluesKaj: apt-cache search flashplugin-nonfree	05:25
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segfault	BluesKaj, i dont think flashplugin-nonfree is flash 9 beta	05:26
trappist	it's not	05:26
Hawkwind	segfault: If he has Seveas' repo it is	05:26
BluesKaj	weird I found in adept but not apt-get	05:26
Jucato	it is	05:26
davids	yeah, if you want flash 9 you must download it from adobe web	05:26
Jucato	!flash 9	05:27
ubotu	Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html	05:27
Hawkwind	Seveas packages it and has since it got released	05:27
Hawkwind	davids: Not true at all actually	05:27
Hawkwind	It's in deb format for both Dapper and Edgy	05:27
xsacha	:( filelight crashing	05:28
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Jucato	xsacha: crash on exit?	05:28
xsacha	yes	05:28
Jucato	known bug :)	05:29
Jucato	harmless, but annoying	05:29
xsacha	ya	05:29
davids	ok guys, i have an strange bug in nautilus. i have reported here https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/69665 . can anybody tell me if you have this in your kubuntus/ubuntus/etc?	05:30
Jucato	???	05:30
xsacha	well we dont have nautilus in kubuntu..	05:30
mac_	nautilus? yuck	05:30
Hawkwind	Nautilus is gnome, most here use KDE stuff, like konqueror/krusader	05:30
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davids	oh i'm sorry	05:30
davids	thanks anyway	05:30
mac_	or Thunar!	05:31
Hawkwind	Thunar is Xubuntu, which would be #Xubuntu :P	05:31
mac_	yeah, but i use it anyway.	05:31
Jucato	mac_: try dolphin?	05:32
ketsugi	What is Krusader?	05:32
Jucato	ketsugi: a twin-pane file manager for KDE	05:32
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ketsugi	And is there a way to set Dolphin or some other file manager as the default file manager instead of Konqueror?	05:32
mac_	Jucato, i haven't	05:33
Jucato	hm.. that I wouldn't know...	05:33
xsacha	ok im reinstalling a dozen mesa/gllib related files	05:33
davids	frankly, i have asked here because i can't speak normally in #ubuntu... there are too many people. but i didn't remember kubuntu uses konqueror! haha	05:33
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xsacha	for some reason emerald broke and it isnt xorg.conf or beryl/emerald's fault	05:33
Jucato	Kubuntu also uses KDE :P	05:33
ketsugi	There's not much point in installing a new file manager if KDE insists on using Konqueror by default all the time	05:33
thomas_	hey all	05:33
thomas_	is there any howto on the web for aiglx and co. that actually works?	05:34
Jucato	there might be a way, just not sure how	05:34
Jucato	but does any OS/DE allow the default file manager to be changed easily? :P	05:34
fdoving	ketsugi: yes, you can.	05:34
ketsugi	Surely Linux is about choice	05:34
ketsugi	fdoving: how?	05:34
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xsacha	dolphin :D	05:35
fdoving	just wait till i find the right way of doing it, with system settings.	05:35
xsacha	k	05:35
Jucato	heheh	05:35
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fdoving	can't find it.. anyway.	05:36
Jucato	fdoving: in KControl at least?	05:37
fdoving	ketsugi, jucato: you basically have to set the fileassociation for inode/directory to use dolphin.	05:37
Jucato	fdoving: that would be in Konqueror's settings then :)	05:37
mac_	i didn't think kde even had 'filemanager' as a default app. there's a default webbrowser, email client, etc. but i don't filemanager as a type of app that gets defaulted	05:37
fdoving	ketsugi, jucato: kmenu -> run command -> 'kcmshell filetypes'	05:37
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Jucato	fdoving: Konqueror -> Settings menu -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations	05:38
xsacha	KDE components->File Associations	05:38
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xsacha	in kcontrol	05:38
Jucato	xsacha: well, normally kcontrol isnt' there :P	05:38
fdoving	it's just not in system settings.	05:38
mac_	yeah but doesn't that set if for each type of file and not a generic 'file manager'?	05:38
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fdoving	mac_: it'll be the default for opening directories.	05:39
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ehird	using a tft, do i want the refersh rate to be the highest or the lowest it can do?	05:39
mac_	fdoving, gotcha	05:39
fdoving	kio-slaves will probably break with dolphin though.	05:39
ehird	the wiki on ubuntu.com says lowest, but i doubt that..	05:39
xsacha	go to File Associations->inode->directory-> change konqueror to something else?	05:39
fdoving	xsacha: yes, or add something else to the list, and move it to the top.	05:40
fdoving	xsacha: it's nice to leave konqueror in there, if you want to change back.	05:40
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xsacha	it had filelight in there :)	05:41
mac_	what's the deal with the 'control' guis anyway? seems edgy took some stuff out of the one that's in the start menu. is kcontrol going to take over and be in the start menu by default going forward?	05:41
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xsacha	keep that in	05:41
Jucato	fdoving: how about indoe/system_directory ?	05:41
ehird	and why does subpixel antialiasing show "shades" of the text like with a CRT but not in windows?	05:41
Jucato	mac_: no. System Settings is supposed to be a lightweight alternative to KControl	05:41
fdoving	Jucato: you can edit that too.. not sure what that's for though.	05:41
Jucato	System Settings does not supplant KControl, and is in fact very dependent on KControl modules	05:42
xsacha	what about the File Manager tab? no matter what i do in file Associations, konqueror is still used in File Manager tab	05:42
mac_	Jucato, but since it seems everything i need to change is in kcontrol, why not put it in the start menu by default? seems funny to me	05:42
Jucato	xsacha: it's because that's Konqueror's settings as a file manager :P	05:42
ketsugi	eww	05:42
xsacha	mac_ kcontrol used to be in menu, i guess they are phasing it out? just need to make system settings have more in it	05:43
ketsugi	okay I prefer a Konqueror/Dolphin style file manager	05:43
Jucato	mac_: what things are those? (Launch Feedback and Panels where inadvertedly left out)	05:43
ketsugi	System Settings sucks badly compared to kcontrol :/	05:43
Jucato	xsacha: no. KControl has never been in the K Menu since Breezy, iirc	05:43
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ehird	=/	05:43
fdoving	I add the settings applet to my panel.	05:43
xsacha	it was in the menu, not as a link but as individual components	05:43
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xsacha	i think a link to kcontrol was in utilities	05:44
Jucato	like I said, it will not, and cannot, replace KControl for the very fact that it depends on kcontrol	05:44
xsacha	or maybe settings	05:44
mac_	Jucato, i'm in xubuntu now but it just seemed like most of what i use i have to open kcontrol for.	05:44
Jucato	xsacha: nah. there's an option in the K Menu to put a sort of System Settings entry there	05:44
xsacha	Jucato: KDE from source doesnt have system settings?	05:44
Jucato	mac_: because 1) you're used to it and 2) it's probably not in you menu anyway	05:44
xsacha	i think thats what i am thinking about	05:45
Jucato	xsacha: I don't know. haven't tried compiling it from source yet. although it's called kde-systemsettings	05:45
mac_	Jucato, perhaps, i'll let you know when i get back to kde	05:45
Jucato	I mean compiling KDE from source	05:45
xsacha	well it wasnt in kde 3.5.3	05:45
xsacha	not in the menu anyway.. kcontrol was in the kmenu and each of the individual components of kcontrol in the kmenu	05:46
Jucato	mac_: most of the stuff that are not in System Settings can be found somewhere else aside from KControl. mostly in Konqueror	05:46
fdoving	if you feel there should be a kcontrol link in the menus, please file a bug at bugs.ubuntu.com explaining why. That's the best way.	05:46
Jucato	probably. I think System Settings only appeared in Breezy/KDE 3.5.4	05:46
Jucato	err.. sorry	05:46
Jucato	3.4.3	05:46
xsacha	:P	05:46
Jucato	gah!! I'm lost :P	05:46
wildchild	how can I upgrade to amarok 1.4.4	05:46
Jucato	wildchild: on Edgy?	05:47
ehird	and er, why is the brown headers on ubuntuforums gray	05:47
wildchild	I allreaddy get key and add deb to repo	05:47
wildchild	jucato: yes	05:47
wildchild	and update	05:47
Jucato	wildchild: all you need to do is to update and upgrade	05:47
mac_	Jucato, sure, but since it's in kcontrol why not just use it by default? it got some flaws i'm missing?	05:47
wildchild	ok	05:47
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wildchild	what about oppen office	05:48
Jucato	mac_: some usability flaws, like groupings. interface (some like it though). mostly usability	05:48
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Jucato	wildchild: no update available for that yet. still 2.0.4	05:48
wildchild	do they come with kubuntu 6.10 ?	05:48
mac_	Jucato, oh, seems logically laid out to me :)	05:48
Jucato	wildchild: yes. installed by default	05:48
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Jucato	mac_: to you probably. because you're used to it. but some are not really logical	05:48
wildchild	:S	05:48
xsacha	systemsettings seems weird with that advanced tab and not much in it	05:48
wildchild	pre time of open office is too long..	05:49
wildchild	how can i cut it	05:49
Jucato	xsacha: not much advanced settings? :P	05:49
xsacha	:P	05:49
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arunkale	hey people	05:49
Jucato	mac_: for example, why is Launch Feedback under Appearance & Themes?	05:49
xsacha	because it's an appearance feature	05:49
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arunkale	how do i install firefox v2	05:49
Jucato	not really.	05:50
arunkale	it's not in the repos	05:50
Jucato	It's a notification	05:50
xsacha	it's a bouncy icon beneath your cursor, how is it not? :P	05:50
mac_	Jucato, because lauchfeed back is all about appearance and themes. that's what it is actually	05:50
Jucato	no it's not about appearances. it's about notification	05:50
xsacha	the absence of the program i clicked on notifies me that im waiting for the program, not the bouncy icon :P	05:50
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wilman	Kmenu	05:50
wilman	system	05:50
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wilman	adept manager	05:50
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Jucato	similarly, why is system notifications under Sound & Multimedia?	05:51
wilman	then search for firefox	05:51
arunkale	wilman: the repos dont have v2.0	05:51
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xsacha	jucato, that is only sound notifications	05:51
Jucato	xsacha: check again	05:51
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mac_	Jucato, pointers are traditionally part of appearance and themes as long as i can remember	05:51
Jucato	xsacha: there are 6 columns	05:51
Jucato	mac_: yes it is. doesn't mean it might be the best place to put it	05:51
xsacha	oh ok	05:52
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xsacha	hehe that is confusing :P	05:52
arunkale	Jucato: did you figure out how to get the firefox 2 thing	05:52
mac_	mac_, it's the appearance of the mouse. doesn't make sense to take it out appearance and themes either. both would seem reasonable to me.	05:52
xsacha	and by default it only seems to come with sound notifications,...	05:52
xsacha	mac_ talking to yourself?	05:52
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mac_	I'm talking to myself. i meant Jucato it's the appearance of the mouse. doesn't make sense to take it out appearance and themes either. both would seem reasonable to me.	05:52
Jucato	arunkale: the only version I was able to install from the repos is 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3	05:53
arunkale	Jucato: how do i do that?	05:53
arunkale	install that version	05:53
mac_	xsacha, yeah, my nick is so sweet, i like to hear myself say it	05:53
arunkale	right now i have 1.5 something	05:53
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robert_	blah, why are certain applets not coming up in kcontrol?	05:53
xsacha	xsacha: don't know	05:53
Jucato	mac_: the appearance of the mouse is in the mouse settings. Launch Feedback is not about the appearance of the mouse, it's about how you are notified when an app is launching, hence the name "Launch" and "Feedback"	05:54
Jucato	true it's a visual notification, but a notification nonetheless	05:54
robert_	bah	05:54
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Jucato	arunkale: are you on Dapper or Edgy?	05:54
robert_	it's the stupid locale crap again	05:54
wilman	anyone uses kguitar?	05:55
Jucato	arunkale: Fx 2.0 is still not available on Dapper, only on Edgy. it's in the main repositories of Edgy, so all you need to do is isntall it	05:55
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fdoving	xsacha: if you feel something is wrong, or should be added/removed from system settings, please file bugs at http://bugs.ubuntu.com select package kde-systemsettings. That way they will be considered. If you have good reasons for your requests.	05:56
arunkale	Dapper	05:56
arunkale	:(	05:56
mac_	Jucato, splitting hairs. a pet peeve of mine: changing things around and renaming things that have been a certain way for years for the simple sake of change. fix real problems first, imho. if you want to add it to notifications, fine. by why not leave the other link?	05:56
xsacha	??	05:56
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xsacha	so systemsettings is just a ubuntu thing right? didnt think i saw it in compiled version	05:56
Jucato	mac_: why leave it? it's just as confusing. no one renamed Launch Feedback. System Settings is just doing what nobody bothered to do with KControl	05:57
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Jucato	xsacha: started with Kubuntu, but it's in KDE now. but not in the main packages I think	05:57
mac_	Jucato, to each his own. guess that's why i like kcontrol better :)	05:57
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MikeT	hi	05:57
fdoving	xsacha:it's a application in kubuntu, in addition to the regular KDE Control Center.	05:58
xsacha	oh ok	05:58
mac_	Jucato, i think that's problem why i see more people referring people to kcontrol as well.	05:58
Jucato	mac_: just for the record, no one bothered touching kcontrol was because... well, no one bothered to. that's the only reason	05:58
arunkale	Jucato: how do i upgrade to Edgy?	05:58
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arunkale	using adept	05:58
Jucato	mac_: probably. or just probably uneasy to try something new or to make a change	05:59
Jucato	!upgrade \| arunkale	05:59
ubotu	arunkale: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)	05:59
arunkale	and will any involvement be required from me? as in, can i just start the process and take a nap?	05:59
Jucato	arunkale: don't use Adept	05:59
arunkale	Jucato: why not?	05:59
Jucato	won't work	05:59
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arunkale	what works then?	05:59
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Jucato	arunkale: the link that was given above	06:00
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MikeT	so Kubuntu 6.10 x64 booted off a DVD wont initialize my HP's wireless....is there a way to get it to work, so i know its going to work when i install?	06:00
mariano	#suse	06:00
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mariano	sorry	06:00
arunkale	Jucato: what is a console session?	06:00
mariano	forgot the /	06:00
Jucato	arunkale: Konsole	06:01
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Jucato	console session = terminal	06:01
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arunkale	Jucato: why do i need to press alt + n	06:01
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neil__	hi	06:01
neil__	?	06:01
ehird	test	06:01
mac_	Jucato, nah. i like trying out new things. don't much care to hunt in a menu for the new location of something that isn't where it should be though :)	06:01
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neil__	hello?	06:01
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freewill	does any one know what app i can use to see if a file is corupted?	06:01
arunkale	Jucato: so basically, i restart, and press alt + n at the login screen?	06:01
Jucato	arunkale: yes	06:01
neil__	?	06:01
neil__	?	06:01
neil__	hello?	06:01
freewill	neil__,	06:02
kenox	how to get write support for ntfs?	06:02
Jucato	neil__: do not spam/flood please	06:02
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arunkale	Jucato: So it'll help to have a printout of this page :)	06:02
Jucato	mac_: new things need to be learned and get used to. it doesn't happen overnight, specially if you've been used to something for decades :P	06:02
arunkale	Jucato: how much time will the process take on a fast connection?	06:03
Jucato	arunkale: depends on how many stuff you have installed, how many errors you run into, etc. In short, I have no idea.	06:03
arunkale	Jucato: errors? ouch	06:03
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Jucato	arunkale: if you're not ready, don't upgrade yet. it might be a bit bumpy	06:04
Jucato	*might8	06:04
MikeT	wheeeeeeeeee	06:04
arunkale	Jucato: so if anything goes wrong, will it affect my windows partition also?	06:04
arunkale	and/or grub?	06:04
Jucato	arunkale: no	06:04
Jucato	as for grub, the new kernel will just be added	06:05
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arunkale	Jucato: say if something goes wrong, will i be able to use my old version of kubuntu?	06:05
killermach_	I'm trying to clone my laptop drive in a USB enclosure on kubuntu and partimage complains that /dev/dm is missing, I have searched the forums, no joy, does anyone know how to correct this?	06:05
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Jucato	arunkale: no...	06:05
Jucato	anyway, gotta go to bed now	06:05
larson9999	Jucato: yeah, that's why in cases like this, i leave the link to the old way in a release or two and make notice that it's going to be changing	06:05
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Jucato	bye	06:05
berkes	are any issues introduced in edgy that break power control of an IBM laptop?	06:05
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berkes	my hibernate is fubar.	06:06
freewill	any one know what app i can use to see if a file is corupted? or one that can sync two files because i started my kubuntu 6.10 download in windows with winwget and i want to contenu it in dapper drake	06:06
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arunkale	take care Jucato	06:06
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fdoving	killermach_: make it, 'sudo mknod -m 644 /dev/dm b 240 0'	06:07
freewill	i can sync a file very easily with ktorrnet but there is no torrnet for the 6.10 cd...	06:07
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killermach_	fdoving: thanks	06:10
BluesKaj	I've never tried 'wine" before ... How do I config ?	06:10
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freewill	can some one read this?	06:11
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kanenas	ciao a tutti	06:13
freewill	thats nice	06:13
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kanenas	in questa chat parlate italiano?	06:13
fdoving	!it	06:13
ubotu	Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!	06:13
xst	In fstab I have listed a mountpoint with the "noauto" option. But still it is being mounted automatically. It worked fine in dapper but the behavior has changed in edgy. Why is it being mounted in spite of the "noauto" option?	06:13
kanenas	scusate	06:13
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KaiserSuse	Hey... I updated to the latest KDE 3.5.5, in Dapper, and now if I pop a CD in I can't get an icon for the media... what could be wrong?	06:14
ypsila	moin	06:14
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freewill	any one know what app i can use to see if a file is corupted? or one that can sync two files because i started my kubuntu 6.10 download in windows with winwget and i want to contenu it in dapper drake	06:14
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Meekus	I am sure this has been asked a ton of times.. but is there a lazy way to upgrade to 6.10 from 6.06 over the internet via maybe one command?	06:14
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yak	hello do anyone knows a free program like vmware or paralles workstion ? i mean for free ???	06:15
beemer	vmware server is free if you register	06:15
KaiserSuse	yak: QEMU?	06:15
Meekus	Yes - I am lazy.. would prefer to not edit out sources.list =)	06:15
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KaiserSuse	freewill: what's wrong with md5sum?	06:16
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TheGateKeeper	Meekus: there is a how to on the wiki	06:16
Meekus	and yak- vmware server is indeed free. Like beemer said you only need register it first	06:16
v3ctor	!upgrade	06:16
ubotu	See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)	06:16
yak	KaiserSuse: dont know is it good? did it work with winodws vista?	06:16
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TheGateKeeper	Meekus: that is what you need to be doing ^^^^	06:16
Meekus	ty - I'll look it over asap =)	06:16
KaiserSuse	yak: did you download the .ISO file?	06:16
freewill	KaiserSuse; i guess i could use md5 if i knew how :P	06:16
beemer	yak: dunno about vista, but i've had np with 2k and a couple linux distros	06:16
yak	Meekus: no i think not only vmware- player is for free and you cant creat a new pc	06:16
nastas	hello to everyone	06:16
freewill	hi :-)	06:17
cutter	yak: The server is now free. You can create with it	06:17
yak	THEN THX to all	06:17
yak	itry	06:17
yak	cya	06:17
Meekus	yak, beemer: likewise - I dont know about vista compat	06:17
KaiserSuse	freewill: you can get the md5 digest out of the ISO in Linux or in Windows... google for md5sum windows	06:17
ehird	no ideas?	06:17
nastas	does anyone knows any data recovery software. or how to run mondo?	06:17
cutter	yak: I have just built 2 w2k3 servers on it. Works a treat....Vmware not the windows :)	06:18
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yak	lol	06:18
KaiserSuse	freewill: then you can compare it against the published ones	06:18
Meekus	lol cutter	06:18
cutter	hehe	06:18
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yak	cutter: can i install it with apt-get or must i download the server version?	06:18
freewill	KaiserSuse; ok but it wil tell me there is a defferance because it was not completly downloaded do you know if there is a app for linux/kde that i can use that can resume downloads	06:19
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cutter	yak: go to the vmware site and download it. You will need to have the kernel sources installed. The install is quite easy	06:19
KaiserSuse	freewill: ah... I see... yes, wget will do resumes nicely	06:19
KaiserSuse	freewill: man wget	06:20
freewill	KaiserSuse; (downloads that i started with an other downloadmanger)	06:20
KaiserSuse	I updated to the latest KDE 3.5.5, in Dapper, and now if I pop a CD in I can't get an icon for the media... what could be wrong?	06:20
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yak	cutter: thx	06:20
freewill	KaiserSuse; i used wget to start do download it on windows	06:20
lotfi	salut tout le monde	06:20
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cutter	yak: just type ./vmware-install and follow the instructions	06:20
lotfi	ya kelk1 ki parle le franais	06:20
lotfi	!!	06:20
yak	cutter: thanks for all	06:21
KaiserSuse	freewill: hmm... could you rephrase that?	06:21
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cutter	yak: np at all	06:21
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robert_	how do I get rid of locales?	06:21
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lotfi	merde	06:21
freewill	KaiserSuse; i used wget to start the download on windows	06:21
v3ctor	!fr	06:22
ubotu	Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.	06:22
lotfi	merci	06:22
cutter	I have just got twinview working. What is stopping me putting icons on one of the desktops ??	06:22
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ehird	Sooooooooooooooo no ideas	06:22
freewill	KaiserSuse; i could use wget the only problem is wouldn't it maybe it would corrupt the whole download and that would be bad	06:22
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robert_	bah	06:22
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ibekaan	hi	06:22
robert_	I can't install belocs-locales-data	06:22
robert_	because it conflicts with locales	06:23
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robert_	and I want these stupid language errors to go away	06:23
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robert_	so, my question to all of you is- WTF	06:23
yak	!de	06:23
ubotu	Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de	06:23
KaiserSuse	freewill: well, i don't know of a tool that validates a partial download... you could try to resume downloading it and then check its MD5 hash	06:23
fdoving	cutter: could it be 'lock to grid?' try to right click on the desktop -> icons -> lock to grid.	06:23
yak	!eu	06:23
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about eu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	06:23
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yak	!et	06:23
ubotu	Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org	06:23
fdoving	cutter: it's actually 'align to grid'.	06:24
martin_	How do you configure WiFi with WPA? I only see the option for WEP	06:24
cutter	fdoving: Bloody hell. As simple as that. Thanks	06:24
freewill	KaiserSuse; ok would most probably do that but what should i do if they have a differant hash?	06:24
fdoving	cutter: you're welcome :)	06:24
cutter	fdoving: Been bugging me since I moved to Kubuntu	06:25
cutter	fdoving: Never even thought to look there. Blonde moment	06:25
alexicon	hrmm in kde i can only select windows to bring to the front by clicking the title bar.. but its supposed to rise when i click anywhere on the inactive window	06:25
freewill	KaiserSuse; (after i resumed it on linux with wget and downloaded it and then have differant hashes... if u know what i mean..)	06:25
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KaiserSuse	freewill: I'm afraid that you would have no option other than download it again... next time, maybe you could try jigdo (don't remember if its available for Kubuntu)	06:26
freewill	KaiserSuse; thx allot cheers	06:27
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june	!javascript	06:27
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about javascript - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	06:27
june	!java	06:28
ubotu	To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository	06:28
freewill	!share	06:28
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	06:28
june	hrm, i need javascript, how would install that?	06:28
KaiserSuse	freewill: np	06:28
BluesKaj	!wine	06:28
ubotu	wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.	06:28
TheGateKeeper	!nfs	06:28
ubotu	nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.	06:28
ehird	any ideas about my colour problem?	06:28
TheGateKeeper	!samba	06:28
ubotu	samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT	06:28
june	isn't there a package for javascript?	06:28
TheGateKeeper	freewill ^^^^^	06:28
freewill	TheGateKeeper ^^^^^^^^^^^^	06:29
BluesKaj	BTW flash 9 won't install in FF2.0 plugin...at least i cna't get it towork :(	06:29
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trappist	BluesKaj: Seveas has a package that works	06:30
v3ctor	i got flash 9 to work by using the plugin in my users plugin dir...global didn't work	06:30
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june	BluesKaj: i had my flash 9 since right before 2.0, i upgraded to 2.0 and nothing broke...	06:31
myesterious	hi	06:31
june	!javascript	06:31
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about javascript - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	06:31
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trappist	hey isn't there a kde app that lets me use like an eyedropper to grab a color from somewhere on the screen?	06:32
myesterious	Safe ? if i install some package outside of respository of Ubuntu.	06:32
BluesKaj	trappist, june ...I've tried everything i can think of ...it justwon't install or open with or any of that stuff..i followed the reame instructions etc but no luck :(	06:32
trappist	BluesKaj: shrug I didn't follow any instructions :) I just installed Seveas's package	06:33
june	you put the shared object in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins ?	06:33
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soulrider	hello everyone	06:33
soulrider	is anyone using any program similar to peerguardian ?	06:33
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BluesKaj	yeah , i have the seveas source but i cna't think why it won't work after installing with adept	06:34
ehird	=S	06:34
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TheWheat	any ideas how 2 get a usb wireless adaptor to work. i did a "iwconfig" and it shows the usb adaptor with an interface name of "rausb0". but when i try to ifconfig "rausb0" the system locks up and the ifconfig process uses all the cpu cycles	06:37
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martin_	anyone know how to set up WPA for wireless networking?	06:37
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htraki	As I know WPA is not supported yet	06:38
esaym	leet	06:38
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martin_	doh	06:39
yak	cutter: i do what you say but when i unpack the file tar.gz and then make ./vmware-install it wont work there are errors	06:39
Trist_an	is it possible to cut in four the konsole window to have 4 konsole in one?	06:39
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yak	cutter: thx i get it was a mistake	06:40
ukubuntu	Does freenode log these channels, so we can look at the public view later?	06:40
Tm_T	!logs	06:40
ubotu	Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs	06:40
ukubuntu	kewl :)	06:40
Tm_T	Dunno if that includes this too.	06:41
wilman	how can i exit the x server?	06:41
ukubuntu	I will findout :D	06:41
htraki	ctrl+backspace	06:41
wilman	thx	06:41
htraki	sorry,ctrl+alt+backspace	06:41
wilman	hmm	06:42
wilman	it does nothing	06:42
wilman	hmm :(	06:42
ukubuntu	oh-ho-ho!, Yes it does, and all the meetings and the java and more!, A log heaven!	06:43
sc0tt_	alt+f2 then /etc/init.d/gdm stop	06:43
sc0tt_	:P	06:43
htraki	this hot is 4 X server shutdown	06:43
wilman	ok	06:43
TheWheat	martin_ wpa is supported	06:44
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TheWheat	martin_: if you want an easier way to install kwlan	06:45
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BluesKaj	hmmm the seveas pkg sources are all 404'd on my apt-get update	06:48
htraki	BluesKaj what would U like to get?	06:49
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ehird	wtf.	06:50
BluesKaj	try this video at youtube ...it requires flashplayer ...I can't get it to work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arfNofxBtfY	06:51
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ayaa	how can i configure wich programs should start in my kde session ?	06:51
apokryphos	ayaa: you can either configure your session (from systemsettings) to revert to your last saved session	06:51
KyA	.kde/autostart	06:51
htraki	@ me works	06:51
apokryphos	or, you can set things in .kde/Autostart. Using a session would be the preferred way though -- certainly neater.	06:52
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htraki	get flashplayer-nonfree	06:52
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TheGateKeeper	!flash9	06:53
ubotu	Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html	06:53
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wilman	the stupid x server does not want to quit	06:53
wilman	grrr	06:53
htraki	wilman if nothing works hit the reset button	06:54
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TheGateKeeper	Ctrl + Alt + backspace	06:54
htraki	I told him already	06:54
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wilman	i do that al the time	06:54
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wilman	it does nothing	06:54
TheGateKeeper	ohhh ok	06:54
wilman	like my keyboard is not working corect	06:55
wilman	cause alt-f2 doesnt work either	06:55
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htraki	Can U change the keyboard	06:55
wilman	im gonna try	06:55
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ayaa	am getting this error in /var/log/syslog: kdm_greet[5621] : Internal error: memory corruption detected	06:57
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htraki	ayaa kde version, what distro do U use?	06:57
zetor	hello all!	06:58
htraki	hello zetor	06:58
ayaa	htraki, kubuntu dapper	06:58
ayaa	with kiosktool restriction	06:58
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htraki	ayya did U have all the latest updates	07:00
ayaa	offcourse	07:00
htraki	kde 3.5.2 ?	07:00
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ayaa	kdebase-bin 3.5.2-0ubuntu26	07:00
htraki	ayaa try to update I use 3.5.4, but 4 dapper there is 3.5.5	07:01
ayaa	htraki, update ? wich repo ?	07:02
htraki	add new line in adept	07:02
htraki	http://www.kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/	07:02
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htraki	this is the URL	07:02
htraki	everythinf else are same	07:02
htraki	deb, dapper, main	07:03
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robert_	bah	07:03
robert_	does anyone have any issues with kcontrol not loading applets due to language errors? :/	07:03
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kay	iamnotreal42	07:04
kay	lol	07:04
kay	hello?	07:04
kay	!de	07:05
ubotu	Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de	07:05
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MikeT	so Kubuntu 6.10 x64 booted off a DVD wont initialize my HP's wireless....is there a way to get it to work, so i know its going to work when i install?	07:05
wimpies	I have trouble instaling 6.06 on my compaq armada 1750	07:05
kay	dos run	07:05
kay	run dos	07:05
kay	run dos run	07:05
MikeT	c:\dos	07:06
MikeT	:P	07:06
kay	:D	07:06
htraki	wimpies, what does your compaq contain?	07:06
wimpies	after a while booting it ends with no more disk activity and a KDE arraw cursor that no longer moves	07:06
wimpies	contains : 192 MB, 4 GB disk	07:06
htraki	Chipset?	07:06
wimpies	chipset of what MoBo, Graphic CPU ?	07:06
jhutchins	MikeT: Have you checked to see if there are native linux drivers for your wireless card, or if it will require ndiswrappers?	07:07
MikeT	i know it requires ndis, its a broadcomm	07:07
MikeT	but the last compaq i had with the same card 6.06 worked lovely with it	07:07
htraki	North Bridge like Nforce3 or intel 845 or something?	07:07
htraki	GPU?	07:08
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wimpies	oops : 96 MB Pent II 300 MHz (intel 440 Bx chips)	07:08
htraki	That"s not much,no wonder X req least 128M as I know	07:09
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MikeT	it uses xFCE so would probably fare better	07:09
htraki	MikeT X server wont start at him	07:09
wimpies	MikeT : can I run KDE on it or does it run another Window Manager	07:10
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MikeT	another wm	07:10
wimpies	I think the X server runs because I saw an x and then a arrow cursor	07:10
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MikeT	but i had FC with xFCE running on a 133mhz with 64mb of ram	07:10
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robert_	does anyone have any issues with kcontrol not loading applets due to 'language pack' problems? :/	07:11
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htraki	try to switch to english first	07:12
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robert_	how would I do that? o_o	07:13
htraki	Kcontrol does not start	07:14
htraki	which lang pack installed?	07:14
robert_	how do I tell?	07:14
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htraki	dpkg -l \| grep lang	07:15
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wimpies	On my desktop pc I want the OpenGL screensaver (which works when I press TEST) but I get this monochrome 'X' saver	07:15
thomas_	test	07:15
wimpies	where does it come from	07:15
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robert_	htraki: what am I looking for?	07:16
htraki	language-pack-kde-en	07:16
htraki	4 example	07:16
robert_	ah	07:16
robert_	I don't have a kde language pack installed	07:16
htraki	but U run KDE desktop?	07:17
archangel_	hey, what can I do to play dvds?	07:17
robert_	yeah	07:17
robert_	I do	07:17
robert_	I apt-got it	07:17
archangel_	I have Dapper	07:17
htraki	U should least install english lang pack	07:18
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htraki	and the base	07:18
robert_	well, that might be my problem	07:18
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robert_	hm	07:19
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robert_	why do I get perl locale errors?	07:19
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htraki	apt get language-support-en	07:19
teledyn	robert_: maybe you don't have the LC variables set?	07:19
htraki	the default is C	07:20
robert_	LC_ALL = (unset)	07:20
teledyn	robert_: try dpkg-reconfigure localeconf	07:20
htraki	arcangel install kaffeine or kmplayer with mplayer	07:21
robert_	locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory	07:21
robert_	locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory	07:21
robert_	locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory	07:21
htraki	if U use KDE	07:21
htraki	robert install locale	07:21
teledyn	robert_: apt-get install locales localeconf	07:21
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dom	is there's a short command to list my basic system info? somethign that would include my kernel version, kubuntu release, and kde version at the least?	07:22
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charly_	wenas	07:23
charly_	hay alguien espaol?	07:23
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robert_	locales is already the newest version.	07:23
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htraki	liblocale-gettext-perl is installed?	07:24
dom	!es	07:24
ubotu	Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.	07:24
TheGateKeeper	!backup	07:25
ubotu	There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi	07:25
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instructor	What's happening with Kopete?	07:29
htraki	robert what did U do with your system ?	07:29
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instructor	!kopete	07:30
ubotu	kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 6825 kB, installed size 18932 kB	07:30
fdoving	instructor: https://launchpad.net/malone/69494 - related to this?	07:31
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instructor	Yup	07:32
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wilman	when i start google video or youtube i can see the video's but i don't hear any sound	07:34
iarwain	hi wilman,	07:34
wilman	hi	07:35
iarwain	try starting firefox with the aoss argument	07:35
iarwain	i think it is like this: firefox aoss	07:35
wilman	aoss argument?	07:35
iarwain	in your terminal	07:35
wilman	ok	07:35
iarwain	try that	07:35
iarwain	and if it works,	07:35
iarwain	just add it in your .desktop file =)	07:35
wilman	nope :(	07:35
wilman	command not found	07:35
htraki	wilman ARTS running	07:36
iarwain	try sudo aptitude install alsa-oss	07:36
wilman	ooh it works	07:36
wilman	firefox aoss	07:36
BluesKaj	Does Flash work for any one here using edgy and FF2 on this site ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmroaYVD_so	07:36
iarwain	:)	07:36
archangel_	why cant I play dvds?	07:36
archangel_	I used too	07:36
__osh__	color depth? gui to change that somewhere?	07:37
iarwain	@Blueskaj: i can	07:37
__osh__	!dvd	07:37
ubotu	For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages	07:37
archangel_	but now I can get to the rating screen if I'm lucky	07:37
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wilman	so firefox aoss in the desktop file	07:37
iarwain	@wilman: jup, that should do the tric	07:37
iarwain	k	07:37
archangel_	thanx	07:37
larson9999	BluesKaj: works here	07:37
wilman	where is the desktop file:P	07:38
htraki	it is hiiden	07:38
htraki	hidden	07:38
robert_	I still get the same stuff	07:38
wilman	in a cave?	07:38
BluesKaj	iarwain, ok ..how did you install flashplayer ...by synaptic or dpkg-i filedirectory/filename ?	07:38
iarwain	@wilman: i don't really know what the correct name is, but the 'link' you click when starting FF :)	07:38
wilman	ok iam gonna look	07:39
iarwain	@BluesKaj: i used Automatix =) waaaay easier :d	07:39
wilman	shortcut	07:39
htraki	Bluekaj apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree	07:39
BluesKaj	eeeeuuuww	07:39
robert_	htraki: I'm still getting locale errors from perl	07:39
BluesKaj	htraki,been there done that about 4 times ...it won' work for me	07:39
__osh__	BluesKaj: Well known bug. Reported numerous time on launchpad.net	07:39
htraki	Tell me what did U do With your system?	07:39
teledyn	robert_: are they just warnings?	07:39
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LjL	!automatix \| iarwain	07:40
ubotu	iarwain: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.	07:40
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robert_	yeah, but it's annoying, as I get them every time I install software	07:40
__osh__	BluesKaj: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/14911 <- among other places.	07:40
wilman	arrr	07:40
wilman	not working	07:40
__osh__	BluesKaj: Looking at the same problem myself.	07:40
iarwain	@wilmin: do you get an error? Or just no sound again?	07:40
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wilman	an error	07:41
iarwain	what error?	07:41
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robert_	http://rafb.net/paste/results/rQEXxo46.html	07:42
larson9999	!flash	07:42
ubotu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	07:42
wilman	KDEinit could not laund "aoss"	07:42
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iarwain	@wilman: don't know about that one, but it does work in a terminal?	07:43
wilman	well i tried but it gave no error	07:43
wilman	only nothing	07:43
BluesKaj	FF doesn't crash , it just won't play Flash content ..tried the open with install command ...no luck there either ..totally stymied :(	07:43
iarwain	how do you mean, 'nothing'?	07:43
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wilman	wait	07:44
wilman	now it does something diferent	07:44
iarwain	lol =) tell me if/when you get any errors	07:44
wilman	can i paste here?	07:44
wilman	or will i be kicked?	07:45
BluesKaj	!pastebin	07:45
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)	07:45
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sloef_	Hi guys	07:45
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sloef_	Does anyone knows what gets initialised by the kernel after the USB?	07:45
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robert_	http://rafb.net/paste/results/rQEXxo46.html <-- warnings I get every time I install a software package	07:46
wilman	wilman@wilman-desktop:~$ firefox aoss	07:46
wilman	X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154	07:47
wilman	Major opcode: 143	07:47
wilman	Minor opcode: 3	07:47
wilman	Resource id: 0x0	07:47
zorglu_	!baddevice \| wilman	07:47
ubotu	wilman: If you are getting errors similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0	07:47
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marcin_	hi can someone send me /etc/rc... from edgy 'cause i've deleted few without backup;/	07:47
zorglu_	hmm not the same :) but maybe close :)	07:47
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wilman	thx	07:47
lotfi	bonsoir	07:47
sparrwork	is it normal for Adept to "freeze" when installing new packages until I click 'Details' to see the dpkg prompts its waiting for?	07:47
zorglu_	!fr	07:48
ubotu	Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.	07:48
Tm_T	sparrwork: I think yes.	07:48
zorglu_	!locale \| robert_	07:48
ubotu	robert_: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf	07:48
wilman	nl	07:48
abattoir	sparrwork: yes, adept can't handle interactivity in a terminal	07:48
mariano_	hey guys, I was trying to install my nvidia drivers and the non generic kernel, and now I can't get a graphical desktop	07:48
mariano_	can you guys help	07:48
ayaa	how to edit other users menu ?	07:48
sparrwork	abattoir: any suggestions other than adept? ive used synaptic in debian	07:48
abattoir	sparrwork: use apt-get/aptitude for packages which require you to accept/input something	07:49
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abattoir	sparrwork: you could use synaptic if you want	07:49
TheGateKeeper	sparrwork: use synaptic I do	07:49
sparrwork	ok, thanks	07:49
abattoir	sparrwork: sudo apt-get install synaptic , should get it for you	07:49
sparrwork	where might i find help with moving emails into my new thunderbird?	07:49
abattoir	sparrwork: moving from where? another installation of thunderbird?	07:49
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Egi	hi	07:50
Egi	erm ... how do i find out what graphic card i have ?	07:50
robert_	and this is from kcontrol directly- http://rafb.net/paste/results/Wyoemr98.html	07:50
Egi	cant find the right entry in /proc/...	07:50
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mhz	hi all	07:51
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v3ctor	Egi: lspci	07:51
abattoir	Egi: try 'lspci -v' in a terminal	07:51
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Egi	thx	07:51
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mariano_	should I just reinstall it?	07:51
mhz	I know I have asked this before but....my needs are still up: Anyone using OpenKiosk? (nodeview and openkiosk)	07:51
Egi	yeah baby ... riva tnt 2 ^^	07:52
sparrwork	abattoir: from another machine, originally from Outlook. i imported from outlook to tbird on the old machine, so now ive got a tbird profile with all my emails in it on that machine as well as the original outlook.pst	07:52
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lotfi	bonsoir	07:53
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Egi	is there a way to play old dos / windows games without wine ?	07:53
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trappist	Egi: dosemu	07:54
wilman	how to open tekst files from the console?	07:54
abattoir	sparrwork: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_backup#Restoring_or_migrating_your_backed-up_profile might help	07:54
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lotfi	bonsoir	07:55
lotfi	je cherche	07:55
abattoir	sparrwork: it's windows specific though, basically just copying folders from the old profile into the new one should work	07:55
trappist	!fr > lotfi	07:55
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Egi	trappist: and how about the windows games ?	07:56
trappist	Egi: gotta use wine (or a wine derivative) for that	07:56
mhz	cedega might be good option	07:57
wilman	for tekst files?	07:57
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ypsila	und tschss	07:58
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zorglu_	!fr	07:59
ubotu	Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.	07:59
zorglu_	!de	07:59
ubotu	Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de	07:59
zorglu_	well german is close to french :)	07:59
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Egi	ll	07:59
Egi	i wouldnt say that	07:59
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Egi	if french is close to german ... than english ist almost the same language as german ^^	08:00
sparrwork	abattoir: thanks. had to do some shuffling of folders since a lot had the same names, but i got it	08:01
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abattoir	sparrwork: you're welcome :)	08:01
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robert_	most of that I've already done	08:02
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robert_	so why am I still getting locale warnings from perl?	08:02
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lotfi	kubuntu fr !!	08:03
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teledyn	robert_: they're just warnings. they can be ignored	08:04
zorglu_	q. anybody running edgy can run 'kate' in a terminal and tell me if it see 'weird message' like ScimInputContextPlugin() or stuff of this kind ?	08:06
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gupta	can anyone help with changing ctrl+q = resume in wget?	08:07
gupta	to something like ctrl+r	08:07
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trappist	gupta: I think ctrl-q comes from the shell, not wget. not 100% sure there.	08:08
gupta	trappist: so what do I add in my zshrc?	08:09
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zorglu_	yep, it is stopping the output	08:10
trappist	you use zsh?	08:10
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zorglu_	some stty magic could change it	08:10
gupta	trappist: ofcourse! :D	08:10
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zorglu_	start CHAR	08:10
zorglu_	CHAR will restart the output after stopping it	08:10
zorglu_	this is the part of stty to play with	08:10
zorglu_	it was from man stty	08:10
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trappist	gupta: I dunno anything about zsh	08:11
zorglu_	ok anybody running edgy and 1min to spare ?	08:11
__osh__	BluesKaj: Still trouble with flash?	08:12
zorglu_	1. run 'kate' in a terminal 2. tell me if kate dumps 'weird message' on the terminal	08:12
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zorglu_	gupta: man stty, look at the start/stop stuff. type "stty -a" to see the current status	08:13
gupta	zorglu_: Thanks.. trying..	08:13
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zorglu_	gupta: you run edgy ?	08:13
Ace2016	Hi all	08:13
Ace2016	how do i get the internet working in vmplayer?	08:14
Ace2016	i installed it, restarted the computer and now what?	08:14
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gupta	zorglu_: No	08:14
zorglu_	quite hard to have somebody typing 4letter in a shell	08:14
zorglu_	gupta: ok toobad :)	08:14
gupta	but stty was what I was looking for.. thanks	08:14
gupta	Just need to modify it a bit	08:14
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abattoir	zorglu_: i'm running edgy, what do you need?	08:14
abattoir	zorglu_: what do you mean by 'weird messages' ?	08:15
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zorglu_	abattoir: does kate dump its debug on the terminal ? like when launching 'kate' do you see stuff like 'ScimInputContextPlugin()"	08:15
__osh__	zorglu_: No weird messages for me.	08:15
abattoir	zorglu_: i get the regular bad device output... and then some scim related stuff	08:15
francesco	hello	08:15
zorglu_	abattoir: it was the simple version of 'dump the debug'	08:15
francesco	@ll	08:15
zorglu_	abattoir: ok thanks, it is what i wanted to know	08:16
abattoir	zorglu_: i guess that's normal, you might see it w/ other kde apps too	08:16
francesco	glxinfo	08:16
francesco	name of display: :0.0	08:16
francesco	libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b	08:16
francesco	what is taht?	08:16
zorglu_	abattoir: yep some considere normal to dump their debug on the terminal in shipped software :)	08:17
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zorglu_	francesco: a weird message :)	08:17
abattoir	zorglu_: it's useful ;)	08:17
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zorglu_	well it is their policies :) and i dont get it but im not here to argue :)	08:18
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francesco	have any hier knowlege of graphics acceleration	08:18
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francesco	on ubuntu?	08:19
francesco	kubuntu?	08:19
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zorglu_	francesco: you likely have an issue with the graphic drivers. first determine if you have 'xv' using the 'xvinfo' command line	08:19
exhale	what do you want to know?	08:19
robert_	0.	08:19
robert_	yay- my keyboard's back together	08:20
robert_	heh	08:20
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instructor	how do you get in contact with a maintainer?	08:20
francesco	ok i check that!	08:20
zorglu_	francesco: second, determine is glxinfo claim to be 'direct rendering'	08:20
francesco	francesco@francesco-desktop:~$ xvinfo	08:21
francesco	X-Video Extension version 2.2	08:21
francesco	screen #0	08:21
francesco	Adaptor #0: "Intel(R) Video Overlay"	08:21
francesco	number of ports: 1	08:21
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ehird	how do i make antialiasing effect gtk apps? (text) :/	08:21
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zorglu_	francesco: then find out what is your graphic card using 'lspci' like something "lspci \| grep VGA"	08:21
zorglu_	francesco: you got 'xv' aka the 2d acceleration	08:21
francesco	@zorglu_ have you see me message?	08:21
Behi	hi	08:22
Behi	right now I am in Kubuntu	08:22
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Behi	how can I format my fdd?	08:22
zorglu_	francesco: glxinfo \| grep 'direct rendering'	08:22
francesco	francesco@francesco-desktop:~$ glxinfo \| grep dir	08:22
francesco	libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b	08:22
francesco	direct rendering: Yes	08:22
Behi	it's mounted under /media/fd0	08:22
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zorglu_	Behi: play with 'fdformat', man fdformat to get the doc	08:22
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Behi	zorglu_: thx	08:23
zorglu_	francesco: ok no idea about the 0x4b	08:23
zorglu_	francesco: what about the 3d perf, are they ok ?	08:23
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francesco	vn	08:23
francesco	francesco@francesco-desktop:~$ lspci \| grep VGA	08:23
francesco	00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)	08:23
Behi	zorglu_: thx	08:24
Behi	zorglu_: it worked	08:24
zorglu_	Behi: cool :)	08:24
francesco	yes i use beryl and work perfectly	08:24
zorglu_	francesco: cool then :)	08:24
Behi	zorglu_: is this format standard? I mean can I read the floppy contents from withing Win XP then?	08:24
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francesco	but this message dont know, what is that	08:24
francesco	?	08:24
zorglu_	Behi: i dont think there is any format on it :)	08:25
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zorglu_	Behi: fdformat just 'format', you need some mkfs on it to get a fat fs	08:25
zorglu_	francesco: no idea about the 0x4b	08:25
Behi	zorglu_: ok... then I have to go with FAT16 then, no?	08:25
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zorglu_	Behi: i dont remember that :)	08:26
zorglu_	Behi: i havent used floppy in a while :)	08:26
Behi	zorglu_: ok, thx a lot anyways :D	08:26
Behi	:)	08:26
Behi	me too!	08:26
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Behi	my XP exploded...	08:26
Behi	and now I'm trying to repair it...	08:26
zorglu_	Behi: you cant boot from a live cd >?	08:26
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Behi	zorglu_: I had installed the XP on a RAID-0	08:28
Lars_G	Do you guys know the dvd has a broken package?	08:28
Behi	now it's exploded...	08:28
Behi	I am trying to reinstall it	08:28
Behi	but I need a floppy with RAID-0 drivers :((	08:28
Lars_G	Behi: I think thumbsrvt had raid support.... I think	08:29
Lars_G	Why not use a livecd?	08:29
Behi	Lars_G: I am now in Kubuntu LiveCD	08:29
Lars_G	then you should be able to use raid-0, just load the module	08:30
Behi	I want to download the driver files from shuttle.com and copy them to the floppy disk :(	08:30
Lars_G	Ah ok	08:30
Lars_G	good luck	08:30
zorglu_	Behi: http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialUsingDOSFloppies.html <- some info on the dos floppy + linux	08:30
Lars_G	So. did you know the dvd has a broken package?	08:31
Lars_G	:D	08:31
sloef	http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30078/ ... can anyone tell me why edgy (2.6.17 kernel) won't boot ... it stops after USB initialisation. (I've pasted the 2.6.15 dmesg)	08:31
Lars_G	And it kills my apt-get dist-upgrade	08:31
Lars_G	/pool/main/f/foo2zjs/foo2zjs_20060625dfsg-2_i386.deb fails MD5Sum :'(	08:31
zorglu_	Lars_G: hmm seems more like a corrupted dvd	08:32
MeTa	!wifi	08:32
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	08:32
Lars_G	And I've had torrent check the checksum against the .torrent file, so it's the original dvd that must be wrong.	08:32
Lars_G	zorglu_: Nyet, I had torrent check all the blocks against the checksum in the .torrent file three times. they all match	08:32
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zorglu_	yep but you boot on a dvd disk :) and this one could be corrupted :)	08:33
zorglu_	is there a hash check on the dvd ?	08:33
Lars_G	eh? no I do not boot on a dvd disk.	08:33
Lars_G	there is NO md5 sum provided on the whole dvd by kubuntu	08:33
Lars_G	AND, the .torrent file includes checksum for every block, and they all pass, so I have a good copy of the original image	08:33
zorglu_	/pool/main/f/foo2zjs/foo2zjs_20060625dfsg-2_i386.deb <- where is this ? is this a dvd disk ?	08:33
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Behi	zorglu_: thx :)	08:34
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Lars_G	zorglu_: oh I see what you mean. Sure I'll tell k3b to check the physical against the image.	08:34
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Bubba_Gump	sandwich?	08:38
Lars_G	I wonder, can I run apt-cdrom over a mounted iso?	08:38
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Lars_G	Hmm no more free cds for newest version	08:40
Lars_G	I can live with that	08:40
michael__	thats very bad	08:40
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Lars_G	Yes and no.	08:41
michael__	ok you can also download it	08:41
Lars_G	At least they don't overcharge as much as OpenBSD to use this to generate income. And they don't stop you burning copies of it once you have it.	08:41
Lars_G	And you can download the isos, correct.	08:41
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Lars_G	And this way we ubuntu lovers are sure people busing shipit won't run the corp dry	08:41
Lars_G	abusing	08:41
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michael__	i am a newbie ^^	08:42
michael__	but i love it	08:42
Lars_G	Welcome :)	08:42
michael__	thx	08:42
Lars_G	They should do a slightly reduced tri-pack with dvds for all three platforms. I think	08:42
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michael__	your meaning with xubuntu ....	08:43
michael__	or only with the desktop?	08:43
Lars_G	Well well well. It does seem it might be a dvd burnign problem.	08:43
Lars_G	michael__: I mean Kubuntu for 386, 64 bit and ppc	08:43
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michael__	hi max	08:44
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instructor	Kuick Kuestion	08:44
instructor	Is ksh still non opensource?	08:44
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Lars_G	korn shell?	08:46
instructor	Si	08:46
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Lars_G	o.O	08:46
instructor	O.o	08:47
Lars_G	instructor: it seems to be pretty much open source	08:47
instructor	what's the purpose of pdksh then?	08:47
Lars_G	altrnatives?	08:47
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instructor	Why is it public domain if ksh is also public domain?	08:48
sparrwork	kde system settings - Sharing... i went into admin mode for the File Sharing page, now the panel is outlined in red (good) and scrolled down (bad) so i can only see the greyed out stuff (bad). help?	08:48
Lars_G	why not?	08:48
Lars_G	btw open source != public domain, you know	08:48
Lars_G	Anyhow, it seems ksh is under the cpl since 2000 so	08:49
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instructor	OK	08:51
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robin	hello, the icon on the speaker that opens up the mixer isnt beside the clock in the corner of my screen, any one know how to get it back?	08:53
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sledge_at_work	robin: hit alt-f2, type kmix, and hit enter.	08:53
Lars_G	robin: alt-f2 "kmix" enter	08:53
wildchild	why my amarok freezes when I click on a mp3 song (I recently upgrade it to 1.4.4)	08:53
Lars_G	sledge_at_work: You type too fast.	08:53
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sledge_at_work	Lars_G: not fast enough. ;)	08:54
robin	after that should kmixer start every time i boot?	08:54
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sledge_at_work	robin: It should have done that to begin with. If you turn off your computer properly (i.e. KDE remembers what programs you were running), it'll show up fine.	08:56
smaggard	yeah	08:56
robin	ok thx	08:56
gupta	!gmrun	08:56
smaggard	mine just loaded up kmix automatically	08:56
ubotu	gmrun: Featureful CLI-like GTK+ application launcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-2 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 172 kB	08:56
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ubuntu_	hi	09:00
ubuntu_	I have a big problem	09:00
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ubuntu_	after upgrading to edgy	09:00
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Lars_G	!upgrade \| Lars_G	09:00
ubotu	Lars_G: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)	09:00
ubuntu_	from dapper, my system doesn;t start	09:00
__osh__	ubuntu_: Don't we all.	09:00
ubuntu_	ihaev installed something like heldback packages I think	09:01
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ubuntu_	and after that I have rebooted and system crashed	09:01
ubuntu_	how to fix this	09:01
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Lars_G	wish me luck, I'm middle update	09:02
Lars_G	ubuntu_: Your information is too vague to help	09:02
smaggard	lol system crashed how to fix	09:02
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ubuntu_	Lars_G: ?	09:02
smaggard	we need more	09:02
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ubuntu_	dont' install held back packages	09:02
v3ctor	try booting to single user mode and doing anouther dist-upgrade	09:02
Lars_G	ubuntu_: "system chrased" can describe thousands of things we need more details.	09:03
ubuntu_	crashed, sorry	09:03
ubuntu_	:)	09:03
ubuntu_	my mistake	09:03
v3ctor	crashed is also too vague	09:03
ubuntu_	the kernel doesn't start	09:03
smaggard	lol	09:03
Lars_G	when the kernel doesn't start it should show a panic error, what does it say just before the panic?	09:03
ubuntu_	v3ctor: 10x :)	09:03
ubuntu_	I think it doesn;t panic	09:04
wildchild	!synaptic	09:04
ubotu	synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto	09:04
ubuntu_	python packages were removed from the system	09:04
ubuntu_	when I installed the held back packages	09:04
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ubuntu_	and what is meaning of this held back packages	09:05
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ubuntu_	!edgy	09:05
ubotu	Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)	09:05
MetaMorfoziS	!wiki	09:06
ubotu	wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation	09:06
MetaMorfoziS	!wifi	09:06
ubotu	Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	09:06
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ubuntu_	so who can help me	09:06
smaggard	ubuntu> reinstall ubuntu	09:07
Lars_G	I pray I can compile a newer nvidia for edgy	09:07
Lars_G	and make scim work	09:07
Lars_G	Well at least I'm getting xorg 7.1	09:08
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mickael	Hello all. I was wondering, if I wanted to make an exact copy of my kubuntu instilation with my profile and packages the way it is now on maybe a dvd to duplicate it on another laptop, what would I use?	09:08
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wildchild	how can I get the older version of amrok	09:09
wildchild	now I have 1.4.4.	09:09
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wildchild	and couse it totall sux or only I have problems - it freezes after Iclick on a song	09:09
wildchild	I wanna get older one	09:09
wildchild	I just don't know how to do that? Any ideas?	09:09
PupenoR_	In what files should I set the prompt, PS1, ? /etc/bash.bashrc and/or ~/.bashrc ?	09:10
mickael	xmms	09:10
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PupenoR_	wildchild: that can be done with some APT tricks, but it's not easy.	09:11
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wildchild	PupenoR_: I am listening as long as u have time	09:11
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PupenoR_	wildchild: I don't know how to do it, but you can check the APT manual.	09:12
PupenoR_	wildchild: hold on a second.	09:12
PupenoR_	wildchild: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html	09:13
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PupenoR_	wildchild: and don't forget to report your bugs to http://bugs.kubuntu.org	09:13
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slow-motion	hallo	09:16
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mickael	??	09:17
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mattik	what's wrong in my ati settings? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30085/	09:18
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gaylord	is there anywone here who knows under KDE how to prevent all windows to get on top of sidebar when they are maximized ?	09:19
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Lars_G	Well, first warning, skkinput blocks Xorg from moving and symlinking /usr/X11R6/bin	09:20
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Lars_G	Wb zorglu_	09:20
goliath23	gaylord: in the settings for the panel you can allow windows to overlap. maybe that setting is set?	09:20
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Lars_G	zorglu_: I wanted to tell you, that you where correct. I used apt-cdrom on the iso itself, and it works without a hitch, so the problem ocurred while burning	09:20
zorglu_	Lars_G: cool :)	09:20
gaylord	goliath23: i d like to be abble to keep the sidebar not on top of all others but beiing abble to prevent windows to cover up the sidebar	09:21
Lars_G	zorglu_: Btw where are you from?	09:21
zorglu_	Lars_G: i live in france at the moment. why ?	09:21
redone	hi: alsa sound work but i dont have sound in the system!! it's normal ??	09:21
gaylord	so the maximum size equal the size of my screen less the size of the sidebar as for a top bar	09:21
Lars_G	zorglu_: Your nick. It sounded like the kind of nick a spainyard might use	09:21
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zorglu_	Lars_G: hehe :) well i choosed it at random :) i change nick regularly :)	09:22
Lars_G	zorglu_: Like Maybeso?	09:22
Lars_G	it's a character from a sci-fi series	09:22
zorglu_	Lars_G: at a point i was 'fred' then 'aliasfred' because somebody else wanted fred :)	09:22
Lars_G	sci-fi book series that is	09:23
zorglu_	but my firstname is not 'fred' at all :)	09:23
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Lars_G	:D	09:23
Lars_G	well the upgrade seems to be working so far.	09:23
Lars_G	But I'll double check packages before rebooting	09:23
justin_	hi	09:24
Lars_G	I wish someone would take the time I don't want to spend ( ;) ) and recode mirrorselect-apt to be ubuntu friendly	09:24
Lars_G	hi justin_	09:24
justin_	hi everyone, this is my first time doing this	09:24
zorglu_	Lars_G: keep a known-to-be-working live cd around	09:24
justin_	im a noob at linux	09:24
Bubba_Gump	tasty	09:24
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Lars_G	zorglu_: Eh good advice, specially now that I have none.. well I have one, for ubuntu 5.10	09:24
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Lars_G	But I've downloaded a cdrom iso for kubuntu edgy, I might burn it now	09:25
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Justin1278	does anyone know how to give Kubuntu a transparent look to it?	09:25
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Lars_G	trouble is these mini-cds scratch inside my koala in two days. lol	09:26
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ubuntu_	hi	09:26
ubuntu_	anybody need help?	09:26
instructor	Me!	09:26
ubuntu_	i'm at work right now and have nothing to do lol	09:26
Justin1278	lol	09:27
Lars_G	:)	09:27
Justin1278	is there a way to give Kubuntu a transparent look?	09:27
inteliwasp	Lars_G, well you could make a bootable flash drive	09:27
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instructor	how do I assess the performance of my system	09:27
ubuntu_	xgl	09:27
gaylord	nobody to help me ?	09:27
ubuntu_	!beryl	09:27
ubotu	beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.	09:27
ubuntu_	there ya go	09:27
ubuntu_	i'll help you gaylord	09:27
instructor	gaylord: what?	09:27
skreet	So I installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu install, latest everything. New loading screen comes up instead of kernel, etc. then black screen. I have to hit CTRL-ALT-F7 to get to KDM, it doesn't happen automagically, any ideas?	09:27
Justin1278	oh i have heard of Baryl	09:27
Justin1278	beryl*	09:27
Justin1278	but i thought it was only for Ubuntu	09:28
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Lars_G	inteliwasp: A booteable pen drive just for rescue?? smart very smart. Problem is it will only work with machines that boot from usb, but it might work well..... thanks man, good idea	09:28
ubuntu_	i'd recommend following the first page of the original xgl guide	09:28
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ubuntu_	!xgl	09:28
ubotu	Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems	09:28
ubuntu_	just the first page^^	09:28
Lars_G	ubuntu_: Why beryl over compiz on Xorg?	09:28
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ubuntu_	so that you can login to xgl as a different session	09:28
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ubuntu_	thats what i did	09:28
ubuntu_	i run beryl on an xgl session and have normal kde on another session	09:29
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Lars_G	Anyhow, compiz makes stuff too slow for me right now. Maybe when I buy an FX 6800, but not now. :)	09:29
ubuntu_	so that i can game in plain kde withoutslowdowns	09:29
ubuntu_	yeah look what i just said about beryl^^	09:29
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Lars_G	ubuntu_: Now, that's smart. Once I finish restarting I'll check it	09:29
ubuntu_	yeah	09:29
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Justin1278	wheredo i download beryl?	09:30
Lars_G	Ok ncurses reinstalling	09:30
ubuntu_	the only reason i did it was because i tried doing xgl compiz but then i got beryl and installed it on the xgl session	09:30
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ubuntu_	otherwise games are extremely laggy	09:30
Lars_G	Yeah ubuntu_	09:30
Lars_G	I didn't knew I could use xgl selectively by session :)	09:31
instructor	ubuntu_: how do I assess the performance of my system	09:31
wildchild	If I wanna Install kubuntu by apt, what packages do I have to install?	09:31
Justin1278	where do i download beryl?	09:31
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Trollinator	kubuntu-desktop	09:32
wildchild	amarok, amarok-xine, amarok-desktop, any others*	09:32
Lars_G	wildchild: afaik, "kubuntu-desktop" should be enough	09:32
jende_	any dvd specialists in here 2nite?	09:32
JakubS_	Lars_G: beryl (or compiz) works great even on integrated i915 chipset	09:32
Lars_G	dvd specialists?	09:32
JakubS_	and this is definitely not high-end	09:32
Lars_G	JakubS_: sweet	09:32
instructor	wildchild: kubuntu-desktop	09:32
JakubS_	'benchmark' plugin shows 60-100 fps	09:33
Lars_G	Ok ok you've convinced me :P	09:33
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jende_	Lars_G: I've got quite a few dvd's (movies) and those I'd like to copy just in case the original will be f*** one day	09:33
Lars_G	gah libpam beign replaced now	09:33
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JakubS_	now i got something weird: quake2 on software renderer - ~80fps, after switching to opengl 5fps	09:33
Lars_G	jende_: Do you know that in many parts you can't legally backup dvd movies you own?	09:34
JakubS_	and used this laptop to play enemy territory before	09:34
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Lars_G	JakubS_: ET? on a laptop? with what, an ATI Mobility?	09:34
JakubS_	Lars_G: this means you don't own them.	09:34
JakubS_	i915	09:34
zorglu_	JakubS_: i got a laptop with i915 and i would like to try xgl to see, do you have a url on how to install it ?	09:34
Lars_G	JakubS_: Correct, you own the physical dvd but you're only licensed to use the contents in certain manners.	09:34
wildchild	if I wanna share with someone that have XP, samba is simple client to do that?	09:35
JakubS_	zorglu_: better go with aiglx	09:35
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zorglu_	JakubS_: ok, any url for this one ? :))	09:35
Lars_G	wildchild: Samba is the best but a little complicated to config, another quick option is to set an ftp server on the linux side	09:35
JakubS_	zorglu_: you just need quite new xorg (7.1 i believe) and that's it	09:35
JakubS_	and some composite manger - beryl works great for me	09:35
wildchild	Lars_G: I wanna user on XP to see my documents	09:36
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Lars_G	wildchild: FTP would be a quick way, but if you will do this repeatedly, then configuring samba is a good investment.	09:36
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zorglu_	JakubS_: ok but i would a url for it :) googling for 'kubuntu aiglx' would do ?	09:36
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Lars_G	wildchild: there's a sharing app in the kde system config panel, that will help you configure samba a little less painfully	09:36
JakubS_	maybe, but probably there is nothing for you to configure :-)	09:37
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inteliwasp	how can i get ntfs to work on dapper? i only really need read acces but wirte would be nice if it is stable	09:37
Trollinator	inteliwasp: STFW	09:37
zorglu_	hmm ok so i will wait to test it	09:37
Hikaru79	inteliwasp: have you tried simply mounting the partition?	09:37
Lars_G	whathever people say about speed and eye candy.. yes it has a lot of that, but beyound that it has a LOT of confortable functionality too	09:37
JakubS_	ntfs-3g is stable for both read and write	09:37
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h3sp4wn	Anyone use kaffeine for watching video's ? (was using codeine but it was annoying the screensaver kept on coming on during a film)	09:38
Trollinator	inteliwasp: STFW and RTFM	09:38
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h3sp4wn	does kaffeing have the same problem	09:38
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stamen	hi again	09:39
stamen	my nick was ubuntu_	09:40
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stamen	so the linux has fixed himself	09:40
Lars_G	stamen: there have been several ubuntu_ here, you're the one with the kernel crash?	09:40
stamen	yes I was	09:40
zorglu_	!aiglx	09:40
ubotu	AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.	09:40
Lars_G	great	09:40
stamen	with the kernel crash :)	09:40
Lars_G	good to hear it fixed :)	09:40
stamen	so the system has fixed itself	09:40
Lars_G	Good for it!	09:40
Lars_G	:D	09:40
stamen	yes very good :)	09:41
stamen	I was ver concerned	09:41
stamen	adn egtting angry	09:41
Lars_G	Ok I will keep upgrading, see you all.	09:41
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stamen	but afteer the second restart the system run	09:41
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stamen	bye for now	09:42
wildchild	I've installed amarok, kubuntu-desktop and when I click on Amarok app it is loading for 15sec and then dissaper	09:44
wildchild	it doesn't open	09:44
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JakubS_	try 'amarokapp' in console	09:44
JakubS_	it may at least give you a clue	09:44
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wildchild	jakubS_:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30086/	09:47
JakubS_	that's all?	09:47
wildchild	yep	09:48
JakubS_	then it hangs, crashes or quits?	09:48
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zorglu_	q. is there a way to prevent amarok from sending all my info to last.fm ?	09:48
wildchild	crashes	09:48
wildchild	when I click on a song	09:48
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jende_	!libdvdread	09:52
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about libdvdread - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	09:52
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jende_	has anyone of you k9copy on edgy?	09:52
Admiral_Chicago	!info libdvd	09:53
gupta	filelight should as default in kubuntu!!	09:53
ubotu	Package libdvd does not exist in any distro I know	09:53
Admiral_Chicago	!info libdvdread	09:53
h3sp4wn	!info libdvdread3	09:53
ubotu	Package libdvdread does not exist in any distro I know	09:53
ubotu	libdvdread3: library for reading DVDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 180 kB	09:53
Admiral_Chicago	h3sp4wn: thanks	09:53
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JakubS	new thing learned: removing i915_dri.so when running X+AIGLX is bad for stability :-)	09:54
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justin_	hello	09:56
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justin_	can somebody help me with Beryl?	09:57
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Admiral_Chicago	justin_: #ubuntu-xgl can a lot better	09:57
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justin_	thanks Admiral	09:58
h3sp4wn	jende_: no and don't pm me	09:58
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jende_	h3sp4wn: sorry	09:59
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h3sp4wn	!pm	10:00
ubotu	Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.	10:00
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Electrolyte	....?	10:03
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mac_	beryl sounds too much like that stuff you have to drink so they can xray you	10:05
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Electrolyte	LOL, I never thought about that.	10:05
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mac_	Electrolyte, with that nick, i'd have thought you'd drink it for fun	10:05
Electrolyte	Shut it :E	10:06
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mattik	How do I reinstall all packages with apt?	10:06
Admiral_Chicago	mattik: what do you mean reinstall?	10:06
vertana	What do you mean "all packages"?	10:06
Admiral_Chicago	what are you trying to do?	10:06
mattik	I have cbroken Kubuntu	10:06
plhardy	What do mean "How do I" :-)	10:06
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mattik	broken	10:07
zorglu_	mattik: better to install it from scratch	10:07
vertana	Ok try "dpkg-reoncfigure -a"	10:07
vertana	reconfigure*	10:07
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mattik	synaptic and gcompriss don't work	10:07
mac_	got a little scared on this install. it kept locking up unitl i got linux-686 installed. trouble was being fast enough to install it before the lockup :)	10:07
Admiral_Chicago	mattik: what do you mean broken, what happened that you / what did you do?	10:07
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plhardy	mattik: do you have an idea what actions did break your system ?	10:08
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vertana	Mattik, when you try to install stuff does it say something along the lines of "E: Cannot find package ____" ?	10:08
mattik	plhardy: yes I tried to install XP, SuSe and Kubuntu in same computer	10:08
mattik	no	10:08
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Admiral_Chicago	mattik: you can do that, what happened that you think you broke Kubuntu	10:09
plhardy	mattik:for XP, if it boot, then it can't XP install that messed up kubuntu	10:09
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plhardy	mattik:for Suse did you specify different partitions for root / usr / ... ?	10:10
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Admiral_Chicago	let's just let him explain what happened, not ask too many questions	10:10
mattik	I mean / and /home	10:10
Admiral_Chicago	tech support over load :P	10:10
vertana	Ok mattik... did you install XP or Kubuntu first?	10:10
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mac_	the M$/suse merger is breaking installs already?	10:11
zorglu_	!mbr	10:11
vertana	Ms always has	10:11
ubotu	grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	10:11
zorglu_	maybe of help	10:11
mattik	The first XP, then Kubuntu and after this SusE and after the installing SuSe KUbuntu backs to fixing console and ask to fsck command	10:12
Admiral_Chicago	mac_:nice	10:12
Admiral_Chicago	mattik: did you try sudo fsck -a	10:12
mattik	no	10:12
plhardy	mattik: order was fine, did you shared partition between Suse install and Kubuntu ?	10:12
mattik	swap	10:12
plhardy	this is fine then.	10:13
mattik	was that error?	10:13
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mattik	Or why SuSe 10.2 broke my Kubuntu	10:13
skreet	mattik: grub?	10:14
plhardy	no excepting if you are using suspend mode (for swap), i just think you faced perhaps hd problems ?	10:14
zorglu_	mattik: describe what you mean by 'broke'	10:14
Trollinator	mattik: that doesn't matter much for Suse is better than Ubuntu anyway	10:14
zorglu_	mattik: what is broken	10:14
skreet	I should try SuSE some time	10:15
skreet	I hear good things	10:15
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parph	better is subjective	10:15
zorglu_	hmm amarok 1.4.3 got a bug in the osd	10:15
mattik	SuSe recognize my hard disk as sata	10:15
mattik	and they are hd	10:15
Admiral_Chicago	zorglu_: whats the bug?	10:15
zorglu_	i wish people aims more for stability and less for fancy feature	10:15
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Admiral_Chicago	Sata is HD, do you mean IDE?	10:16
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mattik	yes	10:16
tito	some body can show the best repositories Universal and MultiUniversal ?	10:16
vertana	zorg: get Amarok 1.44	10:16
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vertana	1.4.4*	10:16
zorglu_	Admiral_Chicago: when it switch from one song to another, it display very shortly ( < 0.2sec) the previous name and then the new name	10:16
parph	what do people make of that novell/suse/microsoft deal	10:16
mattik	I mean /dev/hda was /dev/sda	10:16
tito	some body can show the best repositories Universal and MultiUniversal ?	10:16
zorglu_	vertana: is this bug fixed ?	10:16
parph	is it a deal with.....the Devil!	10:16
Admiral_Chicago	!repo > tito	10:16
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vontux	is it possible to screw up "su" without screwing up "sudo" on the command line?	10:16
vertana	I do not know, I never experienced that, but try the new version (they fixed ~100 bugs they said) and see if it is fixed.	10:16
zorglu_	vertana: before i was running 1.3.9 and it didnt have this bug	10:16
vertana	If not, then submit an official report.	10:17
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binary2k2	zorglu_: I'm running amarok 1.4.3 and don't have that bug	10:17
Admiral_Chicago	zorglu_: did you check LP	10:17
zorglu_	vertana: hehe :) did they say how many new bug were introduced ? :)	10:17
Bubba_Gump	:D	10:17
vertana	I do know that it doesn't bog down my cpu like 1.4.3 did ^^	10:17
zorglu_	Admiral_Chicago: LP ?	10:17
Admiral_Chicago	lanchpad.not	10:17
Bubba_Gump	amarok takes 800mhz i think	10:17
Admiral_Chicago	net*	10:17
mattik	this is error	10:17
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mattik	fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=b0a4889e-afaa-488b-9fd7-8a20429d5f95'	10:17
parph	is the latest kubuntu release buggy or is it a solid release all in all	10:17
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zorglu_	binary2k2: hmm ok interesting... maybe because i just installed it, maybe it require to reboot or something	10:18
Admiral_Chicago	mattik: edgy?	10:18
vertana	I have a 2.1Ghz Athlon XP and Amarok used to take an unusually long time to load for me, but now it's fine with 1.4.4	10:18
zorglu_	Admiral_Chicago: nope i havnt	10:18
max_	hi, is there a way to reinstall kubuntu and still keep all your files (mp3's, movies, etc)?	10:18
Admiral_Chicago	max_: why do you need to reinstall+	10:18
mattik	yes	10:18
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max_	i want to start over	10:19
Bubba_Gump	yeah how is this done?	10:19
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plhardy	max_:yes that's why it is better to create two different partitions, one for system / and one other for /home all your datas are put on /home and this is not required to be formatted to be reinstalled	10:19
max_	but i have a super small drive	10:20
Admiral_Chicago	max_: any reason in particular	10:20
mattik	Admiral_Chicago: I thik I don't try more betas in this hardware :(	10:20
plhardy	max_:have you already different partitions ?	10:20
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Admiral_Chicago	mattik: edgy isn't a beta	10:20
Admiral_Chicago	it's stable	10:20
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vontux	what are the command line commands for changing the password?	10:20
mattik	Admiral_Chicago: I mean SuSe	10:20
plhardy	max_: copy all your data on a cd or a dvd ...	10:20
max_	so there isnt a way to reinstall kde and keep files??	10:21
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LjL	vontux: passwd	10:21
Admiral_Chicago	mattik: oh well if i was you, i'd stick with kubuntu and maybe XP. i	10:21
vontux	LjL, thankyou	10:21
Admiral_Chicago	maybe XP	10:21
Whitelighter	has any one else seen sector read errors when booting the livecd?	10:21
mattik	Admiral_Chicago: OK :)	10:22
plhardy	max_:if you have alrready two differents partitions it is possible to reinstall the whole system without breaking data	10:22
max_	since my drive is so small i only did one partition	10:22
plhardy	max_:your are in shit then.	10:22
binary2k2	Whitelighter: what's the error?	10:22
Zaire	this is what this guy thinks sudo does <Shadow_mil> Zaire: because it will do things like set your config file to the root user, put your config files in /root and otehr bad stuff	10:22
_Shade_	Whitelighter: it happens often for me... despite the cd is ok	10:22
mattik	Admiral_Chicago: Do you know how do I fix this error in filesystem?	10:23
max_	nah, ill burn to a DVD	10:23
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max_	can someone recomend a good DVD burner?	10:23
hume	hi...how do I start KDE from my xinitrc-script? with startx?	10:23
Trollinator	max_ stwf	10:23
hume	k3b?	10:23
vontux	LjL: lets say that at some time I tried a passwd command, but didn't complete it, is it possible that it would prevent me from using "su" with my root password, but not screw up the root password for sudo?	10:23
hollywoodb	hume: try startkde	10:23
Whitelighter	binary2k2: hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }	10:23
Admiral_Chicago	mattik: i'm still not sure i know the error	10:23
plhardy	max_: it is possible to just use apt tool to request adding or removing software, perhaps a full reinstall is not needed	10:23
Trollinator	stfw i mean	10:23
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hume	exec startkde or just startkde?	10:23
hollywoodb	max_: I've had good luck with NEC burners	10:24
LjL	vontux: entirely possible, since they're two different passwords	10:24
hollywoodb	hume: exec	10:24
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hume	ok	10:24
Whitelighter	binary2k2: followed by hdc: command error: error=0x51 { IllegalLengthIndication LastFailSense=0x05 }	10:24
mattik	Admiral_Chicago: If I restart Kubuntu I come back in fix console	10:24
skreet	Citrix for Linux = Happy	10:24
max_	hollywoodb: can i get that in adept?	10:24
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Admiral_Chicago	mattik: you said sudo fsck -a didn't work	10:25
sparrwork	I installed kubuntu. I ran OpenGL screensavers very nicely. I did a package upgrade, and installed a few new things. Two reboots later I notice my OpenGL screensavers are running software-ishly slow. glxinfo says "Direct Rendering: no". Help?	10:25
hollywoodb	max_: if adept sells NEC burners i suppose you could but I don't believe it does... for software use K3B	10:25
binary2k2	Whitelighter: it may be the the media is dammaged, scrached or something	10:25
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binary2k2	Whitelighter: have you tryed with another disk?	10:25
mattik	Admiral_Chicago: It gave error what you can see above	10:25
plhardy	max_:get K3b this is good cd/dvd burner software	10:25
Admiral_Chicago	mattik: sudo fsck	10:26
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mattik	same error	10:26
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hollywoodb	does kubuntu ship with ipw2200 firmware, is there a packages, or do I need to get it from http://ipw2200.sf.net ?	10:26
Whitelighter	binary2k2: I've tryed re-burning makes no difference, does it both on i386 and amd64	10:26
mattik	Do I have to boot in livecd	10:27
plhardy	mattik:sudo fsck /dev/hda1 ?	10:27
binary2k2	Whitelighter: re-burning on the same disk, or a differnt one?	10:27
Zaire	tell me how could sudo possible change a files ownership if your not using the chowm command lol	10:27
Zaire	chown*	10:27
Admiral_Chicago	mattik: no	10:28
Whitelighter	binary2k2: it only happens at one sector (repeats 8 times) but its different for each arch. Yes different disks and difference media suppliers	10:28
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mattik	plhardy: It runs in hdc2 thanks :)	10:28
vontux	anybody every screw up "su" so that their password doesn't work for login, but it still works for "sudo"?	10:28
binary2k2	Whitelighter: did you check the md5sum of the ISO image bedore you burn it?	10:28
Zaire	Im just curious about that cause some guy in the ubuntu-xgl channel seems to think when you use sudo on gui configs that it writes ownership to root lol	10:29
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plhardy	mattik: you should run it on the root filesystem	10:29
binary2k2	Whitelighter: and after it burned to?	10:29
Whitelighter	binary2k2: checked the checksum both after downloading and after burning, both correct	10:29
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vontux	Zaire: are you refering to my question, or somebody elses?	10:29
binary2k2	Whitelighter: hmm, then it may be a hardware issue	10:29
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mattik	plhardy: My root is /dev/hdc2	10:30
Whitelighter	binary2k2: to me it seems to be related to the kernel in some way	10:30
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plhardy	mattik: then you are right	10:30
Zaire	neither lol Im just wondering about what this ditz in the ubuntu xgl channel said lol	10:30
mattik	thank you for help :)	10:30
Zaire	he thinks that using sudo changes file ownership and permissions solely to root	10:30
binary2k2	Whitelighter: that's also possible, maybe a driver issue or something	10:31
vontux	Zaire: as in "sudo filename" and bam, only root file ownership? perhaps you should inform him otherwise	10:31
binary2k2	Whitelighter: I haven't seen that error before myself so I don't really know how else to help here	10:31
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Zaire	yeps thats what he think and I tried to tell him it doesn't but he wont listen lol	10:32
vontux	Zaire: send him links	10:32
Whitelighter	binary2k2: hmm, strange thing is that is does it on both my dvd writer and my laptops dvdrom	10:32
Zaire	dunno any lol	10:32
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parph	http://www.redhat.com/promo/believe/	10:32
plhardy	Zaire: sudo gives root right to programs that are allowed, then they will use root rights to creates their files...	10:32
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Zaire	but that sure is an id10t error lol	10:32
vontux	I wish I have some idea of what I did to screw up my "su" command	10:32
Zaire	root already has rights to all files though	10:33
Admiral_Chicago	mattik: did that work?	10:33
Zaire	so the statement is kinda redundant	10:33
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Whitelighter	binary2k2: maybe most people don't see the messages. it would normally be hidden behind the splash screen	10:33
vontux	plhardy: any idea as to what I could possibly have done to screw up "su" so that it doesn't accept my root password, but so that "sudo" still does?	10:33
plhardy	Zaire: if you do a sudo touch x, x will have root persmissions but of course if you do sudo x you will just run x...	10:33
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mattik	Admiral_Chicago: yes but after fsck it gave same error 'UUID=b0a4889e-afaa-488b-9fd7-8a20429d5f95'	10:34
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binary2k2	Whitelighter: yeah, have you asked on the forums yet? you may get more answers there as more people will see it.	10:34
Admiral_Chicago	ma	10:34
Zaire	sudo is just a way to give a normal account temp root permissions from my understanding	10:34
Admiral_Chicago	mattik: seems like your fstab is gone bonkers	10:34
Admiral_Chicago	mattik: did you try booting into recovery mode?	10:34
mattik	yes, it runs right	10:35
plhardy	vontux: sudo passwd should help you to reset your root password	10:35
mattik	but what I do after this	10:35
Zaire	from my understanding the only time sudo can change permissions is in the event chown and chmod are used	10:35
plhardy	vontux: su need a root password to work, sudo uses your user password...	10:35
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oceanis	im trying to install kubuntu dapper	10:36
oceanis	i have win xp in this box	10:36
oceanis	but when im trying to boot is says	10:36
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Whitelighter	binary2k2: no I haven't posted on the forum as yet. I did see a similar post by someone else, however there was no response. just trying to find it again.	10:36
oceanis	cannot boot try cd 2 or update the bios	10:36
oceanis	wtf?	10:36
plhardy	Zaire: sudo script.sh can do it if script.sh contains chown, chmod or any script/programm that access permissions api.	10:36
oceanis	i think theres no CD 2	10:36
Zaire	but don't you have to use sudo more or less if you want to edit files like the xorg.conf or sources.list	10:37
oceanis	anyone will help me	10:37
Admiral_Chicago	oceanis: did you check your BIOS settings? not to update it but are you booting from the cd	10:37
oceanis	yes im booting from cd	10:38
oceanis	settings are	10:38
Admiral_Chicago	mattik: paste your fstab	10:38
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oceanis	CDROM - C - FLOPY	10:38
Admiral_Chicago	oceanis: okay then i have no clue	10:38
oceanis	so what to do	10:38
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oceanis	i tryit kubuntu and ubuntu dapper	10:39
oceanis	no one want to boot	10:39
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gemidjy	back to dapper, phew, edgy is nightmare	10:39
plhardy	oceanis: if possible checks md5sum of your cd to verify it was well burned.	10:39
hollywoodb	gemidjy: howso?	10:39
gemidjy	well, there were many anoying things	10:39
oceanis	i cant understand you	10:39
oceanis	im new in this	10:39
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gemidjy	hardware recognition, flash issues (which can't be passed to flash/adobe since It is ok with dapper), speed, stability, etc..	10:40
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mattik	Admiral_Chicago: Any things show not running I boot recovery mode first	10:40
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DralaFi	hi. Kubuntu uses an initiramdisk. Can I bypass this?	10:42
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Delphinus	i'm trying to google for the problem where your network interfaces do not load up at startup... and you have to ifdown then ifup them... but cant seem to find the topic, can anyone help me with this please?	10:42
oceanis	so no one wants to help me	10:42
mc_	hi guys,i have a problem with apt-get itrs trying to configure a package eacht time i install package,and it always fails,how do tell apt-get to let the package unconfigured?	10:43
Admiral_Chicago	mc_: what package	10:43
mc_	Admiral_Chicago: vmware	10:43
LjL	mc_: show me your sources.list please	10:43
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LjL	!pastebin	10:43
ubotu	pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)	10:43
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Admiral_Chicago	mc_: edgy?	10:44
Whitelighter	binary2k2: just booted up the livecd for 6.06.1 - that also did the same. it seems it happens just before the ISO 9660 Extensions: MS Joliet Level 3 message	10:44
mc_	Admiral_Chicago: yes	10:44
plhardy	oceanis: with what did you burn your cds ?	10:44
oceanis	nero	10:45
oceanis	but i tryed that cds	10:45
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binary2k2	Whitelighter: will the system continue to boot with the errors?	10:45
oceanis	in other machine they worked	10:45
Admiral_Chicago	mc_: vmware is having problems with edgy	10:45
Admiral_Chicago	hold on i'll help you out with a link	10:46
plhardy	oceanis: ok, then if it is not the cd, this is either the cdrom or the bios/motheboard...	10:46
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mc_	Admiral_Chicago: i dont wont to get vmware running,i just want apt-get to ignore vmware	10:46
Admiral_Chicago	mc_: http://mindwarp.net/?p=28	10:46
oceanis	well bbl trying	10:46
Admiral_Chicago	i don't know if it'll help but i hope it does	10:46
mc_	Admiral_Chicago: alright,thank you	10:46
binary2k2	mc_: if you don't want vmware, then just uninstall it	10:46
Whitelighter	binary2k2: yes it seems fine. Just not good to see a read error showing up. If it's a bug, it would be nice to get it fixed.	10:47
mc_	binary2k2: but it is not yet installed	10:47
mc_	binary2k2: apt-get trys installing it but it fails all the time	10:47
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mc_	binary2k2: and i dont know how to stop apt-get from trying	10:47
LjL	mc_, can you paste your sources.list please? and the error apt-get gives?	10:47
plhardy	vontux: did sudo passwd helped you ?	10:47
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DralaFi	Can kubuntu function with no initrd? (of course I know that Linux can work with no initrd)	10:48
binary2k2	mc_: it may be installed, but not confugured, so you can try "sudo apt-get --purge remove vmware"	10:48
binary2k2	Whitelighter: maybe you should put a bug report on launchpad.net	10:48
Hawkwind	mc_: There was a huge discussion on the Kubuntu-users ML about this over the last 2 days where someone had the very same problem	10:49
mc_	binary2k2: thank you very much,that did the trick	10:49
binary2k2	mc_: great	10:49
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Whitelighter	binary2k2: yes maybe. will do some more investigation, see if I can dig anymore info up. Thanks for help.	10:50
plhardy	DralaFi: i am intersted by answer to your question too, i would think no recent distro could work without initrd due to modules needed to recognize hardware...	10:50
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binary2k2	Whitelighter: sorry i couldn't help more, good luck with it	10:50
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m0ns00n	Ljl: Please refrain from making me private messages about your improper ettiquette.....	10:50
Whitelighter	binary2k2: thanks	10:50
sledge_at_work	Another annoying bug is when installing xorg-xserver, I sometimes get a window "The nice value has to be between -20 and 19." You click OK, and it comes back. You click OK again, and it comes back again. It actually doesn't go away at all.	10:50
JakubS	DralaFi: if you compile your own kernel, suer	10:51
JakubS	s/suer/sure/	10:51
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Hawkwind	m0ns00n: ??	10:51
LjL	m0ns00n: sorry? you changed your nick to an away nick, AFAIK that's against the channel guidelines. you're at fault, certainly not i.	10:51
sledge_at_work	:)	10:51
DralaFi	plhardy, no all recent distros should work without initrd.	10:51
Hawkwind	LjL: No it's not	10:51
LjL	Hawkwind: i sent him !away some time ago	10:51
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JakubS	DralaFi: they would need at least drivers for all disk controllers compiled in	10:51
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DralaFi	JakubS, yes I'm going to compile my own kernel, just wanted to know if kubuntu has something in the init procedure of the distro that absolutely requires that initrd was loaded.	10:52
hollywoodb	http://soren.overgaard.org/writings/irc-away-message	10:52
JakubS	DralaFi: nope, i use self-compiled kernel without initrd too (need it for proper suspend)	10:52
DralaFi	JakubS, I've compiled so many kernels that I can't recall how many.	10:52
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DralaFi	JakubS, thanks very much.	10:52
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sparrwork	I lost 3D acceleration on my intel 865 a couple of reboots ago. glxinfo says "direct rendering: no". i tried manual "modprobe i810fb" and restart X to no avail. hints?	10:53
plhardy	JakubS: you manage to put all the drivers you wanted (sound, network, usb ... ) without modules ?	10:53
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JakubS	i use modules for non-essential stuff (pretty everything except for sata driver and root filesystem driver)	10:55
tobias	how do i make the video player inside firefox load a reasonable amount of the video it is streaming so it is not like chopped up into pieces the whole video	10:55
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tobias	What I am wondering is how to set the buffer i believe?	10:56
tobias	or something	10:56
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DralaFi	Also, anyone know how to test to see if 3d acceleration is supported by the intel 915GM chipset? I'm getting rubbish performance, and also have reason to believe that I'm only getting 7MB of video RAM for the GFX card (according to Xorg log).	10:56
JakubS	glxinfo	10:57
n8k99	is there anything i can do to get powermanager to recognize my battery?	10:57
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JakubS	i have i915 too and also noticed poor performance (15fps in enemy territory at lowest settings)	10:57
JakubS	i remember it was much more several months ago	10:57
DralaFi	glxinfo says direct rendering: yes	10:57
DralaFi	but i have only 7mb ram for it??	10:58
mattik	Admiral_Chicago: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30100/	10:58
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DralaFi	kubuntu's build of glxgears doesn't show frames per sec	10:58
sparrwork	DralaFi: it shares ram with the sstem	10:58
sparrwork	DralaFi: very annoying, that. (no fps thing)	10:58
JakubS	DralaFi: glxgears -printfps	10:58
DralaFi	sparrwork, I know.	10:58
mattik	I can't boot in recovery mode	10:59
n8k99	powermanager cycles between battery removed and battery inserted - without any interaction on my part	10:59
magicmike	Hi. Does jende hang out around here anymore?	10:59
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m0ns00n	LjL: Well, the channel isn't the only one I'm on	10:59
DralaFi	sparrwork, I tried to make it use 64MB from system, but the xorg log seems to say there was mem allocation failure.	10:59
gemidjy	I have both dapper and edgy cds, and I run Dapper, can I upgrade only KDE on Dapper, to kde 3.5.5 from edgy's CD ?	10:59
m0ns00n	LjL: So either the rules will be bent or I'll just stop coming here	11:00
DralaFi	hmm, 125fps	11:00
sparrwork	DralaFi: could be worse... my i865 ran great for one boot, now i dont have acceleration at all :)	11:00
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JakubS	DralaFi: then it _really_ sucks, i get ~800fps	11:01
JakubS	you can try LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxgears and watch for errors	11:01
DralaFi	JakubS, 125fps maximised for 1024x768	11:02
JakubS	ah, maximized	11:02
sparrwork	dont maximize it	11:02
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sparrwork	no one can duplicate your data	11:02
sparrwork	the default size is the reference point	11:02
DralaFi	ok, trying again	11:02
sparrwork	i get 800fps in glxgears, thats software on a p4 2.8ish	11:02
parph	i'm thinking of trying out kubuntu for the first time. Is there anything I should know about the latest release?	11:02
JakubS	sparrwork: also i915?	11:02
sparrwork	hardware glxgears should get 2000+ on shitty OLD 3d accelerators, like a riva tnt	11:02
sparrwork	JakubS: i865 for me	11:03
sparrwork	parph: no more than about any other release	11:03
JakubS	well, i remember getting >2000 (or was it >4000?) on geforce2mx	11:03
sparrwork	yeah	11:03
DralaFi	JakubS, sparrwork: ~930fps on i915GM, centrino 1.7MHz	11:03
sparrwork	modern hardware will spit out bazillions of frames when your drivers are working	11:03
JakubS	so your results are comparable to mine	11:04
JakubS	hell with glxgears, i want my quake2 with more than 5fps!	11:04
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sledge_at_work	I'm only getting ~400fps with fglrx and mobility radeon9600 :(	11:04
mc_	JakubS: you need to set up dri	11:05
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gemidjy	sledge_at_work: lucky you got so far	11:05
mc_	get a good gfx-card www.nvidia.com,nvidia driver support rocks	11:05
gemidjy	sledge_at_work: try using the free 'ati' driver, not that will increase the fps dramaticly but it will be free anyway, and sometimes it is better, yes	11:05
JakubS	mc_: gladly, i wonder how will i stick it into my laptop then though :-)	11:05
sledge_at_work	gemidjy: Does the free one support 3d hw accel?	11:06
gemidjy	anyone has RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro ?	11:06
mc_	gemidjy: i had one	11:06
gemidjy	sledge_at_work: yes	11:06
JakubS	mc_: looks like dri is working, for example aiglx+beryl gives great results	11:06
gemidjy	mc_: how's its support for *nix ?	11:06
mc_	JakubS: strange	11:06
sledge_at_work	gemidjy: how good is it though? ;)	11:06
mc_	gemidjy: its great,you hast have to use the legacy drivers	11:07
JakubS	very, most strange is that i remember games actually working ok several months ago	11:07
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gemidjy	sledge_at_work: as I said, not drastic diff but better if u ask me	11:07
JakubS	i guess it is time to check it with some livecd	11:07
mc_	gemidjy: i could watch nice movies with my Riva TNT 2 Ultra,on my amd k6-2 300mhz	11:07
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mc_	gemidjy: xv is supported	11:08
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parph	can i have kubuntu take over using my current home directory? I have another distro now and was wondering if I could use the same home directory without problems	11:11
chx	what's the easiest way to NAT? I have an incoming cable, and two Ethernet cardds	11:11
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parph	Like all my kmail files and my konquerer bookmarks are in there	11:11
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bigleon	Hey	11:11
[cf] nightrid3r	parph: is youre /home on a separate partition	11:12
parph	yeah	11:12
[cf] nightrid3r	then you can :)	11:12
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parph	nice!	11:12
bigleon	When ever your done helping Current Person, I was looking into knowing how I can play Conquer Strike on my Kubuntu OS	11:12
nnn0	but you should move all he hidden files	11:12
parph	how come nnn?	11:12
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nnn0	so it doesn't fuck up the kde	11:13
nnn0	trhen after you have installed it	11:13
parph	oh like delete every hidden file?	11:13
nnn0	you can move back whatever you need	11:13
parph	oh ok	11:13
nnn0	no not delete, just move them to another dir	11:13
[cf] nightrid3r	parph: just install with manual partioning and use the old partitions and format everething except /home	11:13
parph	the only thing i'm worring about is losing my bookmarks and mail files	11:14
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dmhouse	Hi guys. Which package should I be looking for to install the PECL PHP extension program? Searching Adept yields nothing.	11:16
parph	does kubuntu use a root account or does it use that other method I can't remember	11:16
binary2k2	sudo	11:17
plhardy	parph: copy you old home user directory to another directory (or tar.gz'ip it) to able to recover it if any problem occur.	11:17
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parph	ah sudo	11:17
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bigleon	So is anyone open to give service?	11:19
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mahognyy	hi, I had installed ubuntu, but want to try kubuntu, so I "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", I restarted and kubuntu login loaded, but then I come to the same old ubuntu interface?	11:20
bigleon	Meh mahogny i think their busy i'm still waiting on support	11:21
binary2k2	mahognyy: you have to choose KDE from the login menu	11:21
bigleon	or not.	11:21
mahognyy	where I type login/pass?	11:21
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chx	how can i make Beryl run instead of kwin?	11:22
bigleon	I have a Question, I was trying to figure out how to play Microsoft games, on Kubuntu. (Counter Strike and Age of Empires)	11:22
binary2k2	mahognyy: same place as you normaly do, just choose KDE from the session menu	11:22
binary2k2	bigleon: have you tryed wine?	11:22
bigleon	I looked at it. But it was confusing and i wasn't sure what to do	11:23
bigleon	I'm rather new to linux Envrioment	11:23
mahognyy	don't know about a seession menu	11:23
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mahognyy	thought first time I try this	11:23
mahognyy	I'll reboot and see what I get	11:23
mahognyy	thanks	11:23
bigleon	http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb I'm wanting Wine on this page correct?	11:24
Bubba_Gump	:D	11:24
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bigleon	It has these two types called Ubuntu Dapper and Ubuntu Breezy and i i'm not sure which to pick. sence i'm using Kubuntu	11:25
binary2k2	bigleon: yeah, or you could install wine from Adept or Synaptic	11:25
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minterior	hi!	11:25
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bigleon	not a clue what Adept or Synaptic is XD	11:25
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bigleon	I found adept	11:26
bigleon	i'm running program now	11:26
binary2k2	bigleon: they are package managers, if you click on the K-menu, then go to System and click on Adept	11:26
binary2k2	bigleon: oh, :P	11:26
binary2k2	bigleon: in there, search for wine	11:26
bigleon	nothing game up	11:27
minterior	I have a problem with my directory's names. I've just installed kubuntu edgy eft (a new install) and now I see wrong some directory names with special chars like	11:27
bigleon	came*	11:27
ryanakca	since system settings' monitor & display is broken, how do I change the screen resolution without restarting X?	11:27
minterior	my before locales where iso-8859-1 and now are utf-8	11:27
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minterior	what should I do to arrange that?	11:27
binary2k2	bigleon: you need to enable the universe repositorys	11:27
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binary2k2	bigleon: I'll find you the help link with info on that	11:27
sparrwork	I installed kubuntu and had working OpenGL rendering, fast OGL screensavers. A package upgrade (small) and a couple of non-critical package installations later i reboot a couple of times and now no 3D acceleration. Where should I look to find the problem?	11:27
ninnghizidha	Hello. Got two gestions reguarding kde. How can i cahnge from GDM to KDE?	11:28
bigleon	Alright	11:28
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binary2k2	bigleon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu	11:29
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OOD	ninnghizidha: http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Display_Manager:_Switch_Between_GDM_and_KDM	11:29
binary2k2	bigleon: you enable the universe repository, click Fetch Updates, then search for wine again	11:30
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Lars_G	I must report that Kubuntu edgy works like a charm so far	11:31
ninnghizidha	thanks a lot!	11:31
minterior	I have a problem with my directory's names. I've just installed kubuntu edgy eft (a new install) and now I see wrong some directory names with special chars like	11:31
minterior	my before locales where iso-8859-1 and now are utf-8. what should I do to arrange that?	11:31
minterior	were	11:31
OOD	ninnghizidha: np	11:31
Lars_G	minterior: There's a tool to recode file names to new locales, but I forgot the name	11:31
kjcole	Hi, anyone familiar with korganizer? It's misbehaving for me under Edgy. (Was fine under Dapper.)	11:31
Lars_G	minterior: You can search "locale" in freshmeat to see if you find it. Sorry :(	11:32
minterior	Lars_G: mmmmm, ok thx!	11:32
fdoving	minterior,lars_g you can try 'utf8-migration-tool' (that's the package name).	11:32
Lars_G	fdoving: Ah good advice	11:32
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Lars_G	I might try to go utf-8 too	11:32
Lars_G	soon	11:32
JakubS	hm, i somehow managed to get enemy territory to run faster (~30fps instead of ~15fps)	11:33
bigleon	binary2k2 Once I down load the file from Adept will it auto install it for my use?	11:33
Lars_G	JakubS: Tell me how	11:33
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bigleon	Or is there Further Configuration?	11:33
binary2k2	bigleon: yes, it will set itself up	11:33
Zaire[AFK]	what sources do you have to add for restricted formats?	11:34
JakubS	i added Option "VideoRam" "32768" to xorg.conf but log says it is ignored anyway	11:34
bigleon	So with wine My computer should be set for playing windows games?	11:34
JakubS	so i have no idea why it is now faster :-)	11:34
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binary2k2	bigleon: It will work with some, but not all	11:34
minterior	fdoving: oooooooh, great!!! thank you very very much! xD	11:35
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JakubS	still 5fps in quake2 though :-(	11:35
minterior	I've already installed it :P	11:35
instructor	Hmm I can't get X to start	11:35
binary2k2	bigleon: the best way to get all the games working is, sorry to say, use vmware or qemu to start windows in a virtual machine	11:35
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bigleon	Are those also provided by Adebpt?	11:36
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soulrider	!teamspeak	11:36
bigleon	adept*	11:36
ubotu	Sorry, I don't know anything about teamspeak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi	11:36
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soulrider	damn	11:36
soulrider	anyone here uses teamspeak ?	11:36
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soulrider	i cant get my sound working	11:36
binary2k2	bigleon: vmware-player is	11:36
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bigleon	on windows XD	11:36
bigleon	kk thanks binary.	11:36
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binary2k2	bigleon: you'll need a windows inatall CD to install windows in vmware	11:37
bigleon	I have a compaq, it has a recovery consle of windows in a 5gb partion. will that work?	11:37
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binary2k2	bigleon: probably not, i haven't tryed to use a partition to install windows in vmware	11:38
JakubS	heh, it is time to stop fooling around with xorg options and enjoy some enemy territory :-)	11:38
bigleon	Hmm Do i need Pro or Home ED windows? I know i got a pro disk around here some where XD	11:38
binary2k2	bigleon: either will work	11:39
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bigleon	Thats good. I'll try using that partition just for tests sake :D.	11:39
bigleon	and get back to ya on possible success	11:39
Bubba_Gump	mmm	11:40
Bubba_Gump	mash potatoe	11:40
binary2k2	bigleon: I found a help page that you may find useful here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMWarePlayerAndWindowsHOWTO	11:40
bigleon	Thanks, I'll bookmark it :D	11:41
Zaire[AFK]	ummm how do you enable restricted formats in edgy?	11:41
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bigleon	Another question	11:42
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bigleon	wait nvm	11:42
bigleon	Wait nvm again	11:42
binary2k2	Zaire[AFK] : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats	11:42
bigleon	Alright	11:42
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bigleon	Question is I'm trying to find my C:/ folder to make my way to progrmas folder	11:42
bigleon	and err i can't find it	11:42
Zaire[AFK]	yea Im on their and none of the stuff is recognised by apt	11:42
kjcole	Anyone know why korganizer's reminder daemon taskbar icon no longer opens korganizer? (Worked in Dapper. Doesn't in Edgy.)	11:43
Zaire[AFK]	I enabled the restricted main backports to	11:43
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binary2k2	bigleon: is the partition mounted?	11:43
bigleon	Explain	11:44
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bigleon	kubuntu has its own partition	11:44
bigleon	i got a 160 and gave linux 75 Gb's of Free space	11:44
bigleon	it made like 3 partitions a "swap" and a root and something else	11:44
binary2k2	bigleon: is the windows partition mounted (so you can browse it)?	11:45
bigleon	not sure.	11:45
binary2k2	Zaire: did you enable universe and multiverse?	11:45
instructor	can I just remove a XAuthorityfile and It will be recreated?	11:45
bigleon	The game installed to my Linux Partition	11:46
Zaire	yes I enabled the universe-multiverse backports	11:46
binary2k2	bigleon: look in /media and the subdirectories	11:46
instructor	I can't get a GUI Login	11:46
binary2k2	Zaire: did you update apt then "sudo apt-get update"?	11:46
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Zaire	yeps	11:46
bigleon	it wasn't there	11:47
binary2k2	Zaire: if you search for "libxine-extracodecs" what do you see?	11:47
Zaire	don't know how to search	11:48
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binary2k2	bigleon: do you know what partition the windows one is?	11:48
bigleon	Sorry about that it crashed me	11:48
binary2k2	Zaire: apt-cache search libxine-extracodecs	11:48
bigleon	partion has only been formated with NFTS and its Partition 2	11:48
instructor	How doI debuga missing X server?	11:48
bigleon	"/home/bigleon/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files/Valve" could this be important to finding location	11:49
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bigleon	yeah i found it now :D	11:50
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bigleon	i'm gonna try and run program	11:50
binary2k2	bigleon: ok	11:50
binary2k2	Zaire: did you try the search command?	11:51
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Cyron	Can someone help me with Kmail? Using an IMAP account, the filters are working fine when I first open the program, but they don't apply on the periodical updates from that point on	11:51
bigleon	Alright it kicked me and unlogged me	11:51
Zaire	yeps nothing happened cept I dropped down a line	11:51
Cyron	What am I missing	11:51
Cyron	?	11:51
bigleon	so i had to log in when trying to use cilent. It first tried to launch in GL mode then tried again in software mode. Should I consider this game un play-able then?	11:51
binary2k2	Zaire: can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org	11:52
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binary2k2	bigleon: it may be, what game is it?	11:53
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bigleon	Counter Strike 1.6	11:53
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bigleon	if anything i can just go install windows on my other partition and set it up there	11:54
Zaire	binary2k2:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30108/	11:54
binary2k2	bigleon: it may be easier that using wine	11:55
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bigleon	i think i'll go ahead and do that	11:55
bigleon	Thanks Binary.	11:55
binary2k2	bigleon: np	11:56
max_	i was trying to backup my files and i noticed my HD is full but i only have 2 gig of files, can KDE really take up the other 4.5gb on my drive? or is somthing wrong ther	11:56
max_	e	11:56
parph	downloading kubuntu dvd	11:57
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binary2k2	you need change the line with ..."edgy universe" to have "edgy universe multiverse"	11:57
binary2k2	Zaire: so change it to "deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse"	11:58
max_	i was trying to backup my files and i noticed my HD is full but i only have 2 gig of files, can KDE really take up the other 4.5gb on my drive? or is somthing wrong there	11:58
Zaire	you mean the backports?	11:58
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binary2k2	Zaire: no, on the main "edgy" one	11:59
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Zaire	you mean edgy universe ?	11:59
binary2k2	Zaire: yes	11:59
binary2k2	Zaire: add "multiverse" to the end of that	11:59
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binary2k2	Zaire: so it look like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30109/	12:01
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Zaire	k I changed it and its still not letting me grab them with apt	12:01
binary2k2	Zaire: did you run "sudo apt-get update" after?	12:02
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Zaire	ah nvm there it goes	12:02
Zaire	thanks	12:02
binary2k2	Zaire: no problem :D	12:02
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DralaFi	I can't ping from kubuntu to my desktop, but I can if i boot windows on the same machine. Any ideas? Totally puzzled as to why this is happening.	12:07
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instructor	Don't have your network card turned on?	12:09
DralaFi	i have it and its RUNNING and UP	12:09
ryanakca	how do I re-enable ctrl-alt-num(+)/num(-)?	12:09
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