[12:10] <VanessaE> Xzyx987X, not sure about a specific program, but the next best thing is to keep a backup of /etc and just restore what you need from it if something gets botched.
[12:11] <Xzyx987X> well, a little late for that...
[12:11] <Mater> lol
[12:11] <Xzyx987X> I'll keep that in mind once I get this fixed...
[12:11] <VanessaE> pastebin a copy of your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[12:11] <VanessaE> maybe there's a hint there as to what broke
[12:11] <Xzyx987X> k...
[12:12] <VanessaE> can you manually startx?
[12:12] <VanessaE> (also /var/log/kdm.log might be helpful)
[12:13] <Xzyx987X> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29930/
[12:14] <VanessaE> ok so at least X starts OK..
[12:14] <Xzyx987X> btw, not sure if this is relevant, but when I start x manually with xstart, it starts with a weird refresh rate
[12:14] <dom> Every OS Sucks: http://www.deadtroll.com/index2.html?/video/ossuckscable.html~content
[12:14] <Xzyx987X> like, horzontal: 34 vertical: 83
[12:15] <VanessaE> what's /var/log/kdm.log indicate?
[12:15] <dom> you can't argue with three dead trolls in a baggie.  they know what they're talking about
[12:15] <dom> (singing)
[12:16] <adolfo> hi, my firefox crashes when i load gmail , what happens ?
[12:16] <[mX] > has anyone experienced a dead lock when using the install cd? everything gets into kde just fine, and then when I try to do anything (double click install, or just open the kmenu) it stalls out
[12:16] <iorek> hey all
[12:16] <ubuntu___> hallo
[12:17] <Xzyx987X> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29931/
[12:17] <VanessaE> adolfo: start by deactivating all of your extensions and returning to the default firefox theme first.  that seems to be the most common cause of FF crashes.
[12:17] <Xzyx987X> 2160. Fatal server error:
[12:17] <Xzyx987X> 2161. Unrecognized option: -fullscreen
[12:17] <Xzyx987X> hmm...
[12:17] <Xzyx987X> where is it getting that from?
[12:18] <iorek> does anybody know - is it through Adept Package Manager that I'm to install the Apache Server?
[12:18] <LjL> how can you type Unicode codes directly? (like, shifter key + number keys)
[12:18] <VanessaE> good question..
[12:18] <iorek> I know how lame that might sound, but it just says something like "Break Cannot Install"
[12:19] <teledyn> LjL: printf "\xe2\x82\xac\n"
[12:19] <LjL> teledyn: no, not in a shell
[12:19] <LjL> type
[12:19] <VanessaE> Xzyx987X, checking...
[12:20] <teledyn> LjL: set up xkb option compose on ralt or rwin and look at /usr/lib/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose
[12:20] <shanden> #no1984
[12:20] <LjL> teledyn: have that option set i think, but i don't have the file you mention
[12:21] <teledyn> LjL: yeah it disappeared
[12:22] <teledyn> LjL: there's a way to find out
[12:22] <VanessaE> Xzyx987X, do you see anything under the /etc/kde3/kdm  tree?
[12:22] <teledyn> LjL: from the keyboard map file, provided you'd selected UTF as your keymap
[12:22] <VanessaE> maybe grep -r "fullscreen" /etc/kde3/kdm
[12:22] <VanessaE> see if something comes up
[12:23] <Xzyx987X> nothing out of the ordinary
[12:23] <VanessaE> hrm
[12:23] <VanessaE> at this point I'd start grepping the whole /etc tree but that can take a bit.
[12:23] <Xzyx987X> kdmrc had a backup copy in the folder, but it was older than this error by a few days
[12:24] <teledyn> LjL: i don't know where the symbols mappings are.  they moved stuff around
[12:24] <LjL> teledyn: ralt+cltr+numbers seem to do *something*, but doesn't really seem to correspond to ascii codes
[12:24] <teledyn> LjL: what characters do you want to input?
[12:25] <VanessaE> also I see another error in here-- your nvidia driver is broken
[12:25] <VanessaE> the kernel module didn't load
[12:25] <teledyn>  
[12:25] <LjL> teledyn: right now, CR and LF, but i just want to find out how to output any ASCII/Unicode character by code
[12:25] <VanessaE> (line 1000)
[12:25] <LjL> i have accents, i don't need those. i want to type in the codes
[12:25] <Xzyx987X> that's an old error which I fixed
[12:26] <VanessaE> Xzyx987X, Ok.
[12:26] <Xzyx987X> but apparently it wasn't the only one
[12:26] <Xzyx987X> before I fixed that I couldn't get into kde at all
[12:26] <LjL> i know that on Windows, RAlt+numpad does ASCII characters
[12:26] <VanessaE> have you checked the whole /etc tree yet?
[12:26] <Xzyx987X> did I mention this was the result of a failed attempt to install the alsa codec from source on an amd64 machine?
[12:27] <Xzyx987X> I fixed the nvidia problem by reinstalling the drivers
[12:27] <VanessaE> yeah I saw something about that
[12:27] <Xzyx987X> but the rest I can't figure out
[12:27] <VanessaE> but first we gotta figure out why it's trying to use a switch that isn't even valid.
[12:27] <teledyn> LjL: wouldn't that depend on the application?
[12:27] <Xzyx987X> should it be valid?
[12:27] <LjL> teledyn: i don't know. on windows, it's a system-wide thing
[12:27] <teledyn> LjL: how you input them would be different in say OO than in kwrite.  they probably both have their own mechanism for inputting them
[12:28] <VanessaE> Xzyx987X, not according to X it isn't :)
[12:28] <Xzyx987X> maybe it is a proprietary x feature not in xorg that is implemented in another version
[12:28] <VanessaE> doubt it
[12:30] <mhz> hey there? anyon using openkiosk ?
[12:30] <Xzyx987X> well, either way, while you think about the fullscreen thing let me try purging a few packages that are related to alsa
[12:30] <VanessaE> wait
[12:30] <rexbron> hello, is there an option in kmail that would have a reply to ma message automatically sent with the address that it was send to?
[12:30] <VanessaE> let's try a reconfig of kdm
[12:30] <teledyn> LjL: S  t help!
[12:30] <LjL> teledyn: i found out it's Alt+numpad (for decimal), and AltGr+numpad (for exadecimals, with keys from numlock to enter being used as A B C D E F) - but only in a Linux VT, not in X
[12:30] <Xzyx987X> k...
[12:30] <Xzyx987X> how?
[12:31] <VanessaE> dpkg --force-confnew --configure kdm
[12:31] <VanessaE> that might fo it
[12:31] <VanessaE> do it
[12:32] <Xzyx987X> xzyx987x@xzyx987x-desktop:~$ sudo dpkg --force-confnew --configure kdm
[12:32] <Xzyx987X> dpkg: error processing kdm (--configure):
[12:32] <Xzyx987X>  package kdm is already installed and configured
[12:32] <Xzyx987X> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:32] <Xzyx987X>  kdm
[12:32] <Xzyx987X> I don't get it...
[12:32] <VanessaE> ok take off the --configure switch
[12:32] <Xzyx987X> dpkg: need an action option
[12:32] <VanessaE> hrm
[12:33] <Xzyx987X> I'll try purging the package first
[12:33] <VanessaE> eh, the alsa packages yeah
[12:35] <Xzyx987X_> on my laptop now
[12:35] <Xzyx987X_> I purget kdm, now I'mma try reinstalling it
[12:35] <VanessaE> ok
[12:36] <crusty> hallo everybody... Can i make a question?
[12:36] <VanessaE> of course, crusty.
[12:36] <crusty> Ok
[12:36] <crusty> A part of "Adept Manager" thaere are more package manager that i can use???
[12:37] <Xzyx987X_> I think it also removerd the kubuntu-desktop package when I did that...
[12:37] <VanessaE> sure, there's the command line apt-* tools, or you could use synaptic
[12:37] <VanessaE> or dselect (ew)
[12:37] <VanessaE> or aptitude
[12:37] <VanessaE> one or two others also
[12:37] <VanessaE> Xzyx987X_, no problem, just reinstall it
[12:37] <Jucato> Synaptic, Kynaptic (eww....), KPackage, SMART (not yet available in Ubuntu, I think), apt-get, aptitude
[12:38] <crusty> ok! thanks...i will look for it
[12:39] <fon_Zograf> People! Be afraid of drivers " ATI - 8.30.3". The system falls! 2 times are checked up. 9800pro... On two different computers but with identical videocards.
[12:39] <Xzyx987X_> hm... the kubuntu-default-settings package might have worked too...
[12:39] <africamagical> sooo, why cant i get into efnet
[12:39] <fon_Zograf> kubuntu 6.10
[12:39] <africamagical> ident bitching shenanigans or something
[12:39] <Xzyx987X_> restarting again, brb....
[12:40] <VanessaE> eh, you're on the lappy, you don't have to leave during reboot ;)
[12:40] <Xzyx987X_> yay, it worked ;)
[12:40] <VanessaE> good deal
[12:41] <Xzyx987X_> god, finallly
[12:41] <Xzyx987X_> that only took a good 6 hours...
[12:41] <sync350> anyone know anything about setting up scanners? im using xsane and running it, but it says no scanner found when my scanner is plugged in... im assuming sane doesn't have the driver for the model (umax astra 4400)... anyone know where i can get this driver (if thats the problem)?
[12:41] <VanessaE> sometimes fixing a computer is more of an art than a science
[12:42] <Xzyx987X_> but I'm still getting a weird refresh rate when I log in
[12:42] <VanessaE> that part's defined by your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:42] <Xzyx987X_> might be the beta driver's fault thoiugh
[12:42] <VanessaE> the HorizSync and VertRefresh lines
[12:42] <Xzyx987X_> I set it to 60.75 in the file
[12:42] <Xzyx987X_> it started at 36,87
[12:43] <Xzyx987X_> want to look at the file?
[12:43] <ubuntu__> hi, exist an italian channel?
[12:43] <VanessaE> sure
[12:43] <VanessaE> odd that it overrode your setting though
[12:44] <Xzyx987X_> it's what /i set it to on the login scree, it doesn't go weird until I actuakky log in though
[12:44] <Jucato> !it | ubuntu__
[12:44] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:44] <Xzyx987X_> sorry, laptop keyboard is hard to type on :P
[12:45] <Xzyx987X_> furthermore, does't kde set up the resolution on a per user basis?
[12:45] <sync350> anyone know anything about the scanner problem?
[12:45] <VanessaE> I think it does, acually
[12:45] <jhutchins_wk> I have a via 82c686 onboard sound chip, and when the balance control of the mixer is centered, certain audio can't be heard.  Moving the balance controll off center doesn't appear to affect the balance.
[12:45] <Xzyx987X_> I don't think it uses the default config file
[12:46] <Xzyx987X_> it overrides it somewhere
[12:46] <Xzyx987X_> the question is where...
[12:46] <Xzyx987X_> ~/.kde seems a likely place to start...
[12:46] <VanessaE> My guess is in the broken display settings monitor
[12:46] <jhutchins_wk> Xzyx987X_: It should default to the X server default, but if you use the display resize widet it will save it somewhere in .kde
[12:47] <Xzyx987X_> where is that widget again?
[12:47] <jhutchins_wk> Or if you resize it with kcontrol.
[12:47] <jhutchins_wk> Xzyx987X_: Not sure where it is, but it's available as an "applet" on the panel.
[12:47] <jhutchins_wk> (If it's installed.)
[12:47] <Xzyx987X_> ah, found it
[12:47] <VanessaE> er, module
[12:47] <dom> [mX] , almost sounds like bad ram.  that or really borked kde settings.  did you have pre-existing kde settings before the install?
[12:48] <Xzyx987X_>  yea, it was set to 79hz
[12:48] <Xzyx987X_> my moniter must not like that :P
[12:48] <jhutchins_wk> One thing you can always try is to create a new user and see if it works for them.
[12:48] <jhutchins_wk> You can also kill kdm, move your .kde folder to .kdeback, and restart kdm.
[12:48] <Xzyx987X_> odd, when I change it's settin it has no effect
[12:49] <Xzyx987X_> apply does absolutely nothing
[12:49] <VanessaE> at the resolution I'm using, my monitor is only good to 75Hz/93kHz on the one, and 85Hz/106.2 kHz on the other
[12:49] <Raven301> I'm looking for a Sources List entry to get realplayer. Does anyone have one??
[12:49] <africamagical> anyone know why azureus doenst sshow up in the status bar when i close
[12:49] <Raven301> this is for edgy
[12:49] <africamagical> and yes the correct box to do so is checked
[12:49] <Xzyx987X_> kinda pointless having an option to configure this stuff wuth the gui when it doesn't work...
[12:50] <Xzyx987X_> technically, ny moniter's specs say it should onlly do 75hz
[12:50] <Xzyx987X_> but it can actually do 85
[12:50] <Xzyx987X_> it's a 21" crt btw ;)
[12:51] <jhutchins_wk> Xzyx987X_: You may be trying to apply a mode that isn't supported in your x config.
[12:51] <VanessaE> pair of 19's here..
[12:52] <jhutchins_wk> Raven301: I think you have to get real player from Macromedia/Adobe.
[12:52] <sync350>  anyone know anything about setting up scanners? im using xsane and running it, but it says no scanner found when my scanner is plugged in... im assuming sane doesn't have the driver for the model (umax astra 4400)... anyone know where i can get this driver (if thats the problem)?
[12:52] <Xzyx987X_> possibly... bah, screw it, I'll just overide it in the nvidia driver settings for now and fix it tommorow
[12:52] <Raven301> ok thanks jhutchins_wk
[12:52] <Xzyx987X_> I've had enough of this for now :P
[12:52] <Lars_G> 35 blocks left to go!!!
[12:52] <VanessaE> at any rate, if memory serves, the broken Display Settings module is where you configure refresh rates and the like within KDE.
[12:52] <Lars_G> 33!!!
[12:52] <jhutchins_wk> Raven301:
[12:52] <jhutchins_wk> !mp3
[12:52] <Xzyx987X_> anyway, thanks for the help
[12:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:52] <VanessaE> what are you doing, copying a 1541 disk? :)
[12:53] <jhutchins_wk> !mp3 | Raven301
[12:53] <ubotu> Raven301: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:53] <Lars_G> No, downloading blocks that were damaged on the DVD torrent :)
[12:53] <Raven301> thanks jhutchins_wk
[12:54] <Lars_G> 26!
[12:54] <Lars_G> two days of downloading, almost done!
[12:55] <jhutchins_wk> Lars_G: We will generously assume that this is a kubuntu install DVD and not some Pie Rate Video thing.
[12:55] <Lars_G> jhutchins_wk: You assume correclty, It's a kubuty edgy dvd :)
[12:56] <Lars_G> kubuntu
[12:56] <Lars_G> emotion makes me typo
[01:00] <VanessaE> I opted for the CD instead, figured it would be less bandwidth overall to install a base system and then (after updating sources.list) grab what I need from the server
[01:00] <jhutchins_wk> VanessaE: That's a pretty good assumption these days with any distro, do a net install instead of downloading the CD.
[01:01] <VanessaE> (besides, I don't like waiting weeks for a CD to come in over torrent)
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[01:01] <VanessaE> eek!
[01:01] <eihnat__> [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[
[01:01] <Lars_G> you're smarter than me, but appart from install I like my DVDs to flaunt stuff at my friends by live load.
[01:01] <eihnat__> [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[01:01] <VanessaE> wtf?
[01:01] <jhutchins_wk> Hmmm... Freenode should chatch that..
[01:02] <eihnat__> ops. sorry, keyboard felt down on the floor
[01:02] <rexbron> lol
[01:02] <VanessaE> Lars: nothing wrong with that, if you're doing it for the right reasons of course
[01:02] <Ropechoborra> Anybody knows why i cant run lauchcam2 (of easycam2) in kubuntu?? it says   File "/usr/share/EasyCam2/easycam.py", line 25, in ?    import gnome.ui
[01:02] <rexbron> thought we might be getting flooeded again
[01:02] <rexbron> hello, is there an option in kmail that would have a reply to ma message automatically sent with the address that it was send to?
[01:02] <Lars_G> eihnat__: And your irc client sends automatically when maximum length is reached?
[01:02] <eihnat__> :)
[01:03] <eihnat__> dont know. it just felt down upside down. and started to type
[01:03] <eihnat__> lol
[01:03] <Lars_G> heh
[01:03] <eihnat__> had to pick it up when seen what mess i made.
[01:05] <caleb> hello everyone!
[01:05] <letalis> hi
[01:05] <Lars_G> we're everyone now
[01:05] <caleb> Trying to ditch WinXp except where I have to use it (work and since I have to do VBScript at work, I will probably have to hold onto it at home for awhile)
[01:06] <Lars_G> :)
[01:06] <caleb> Anyways, checking the FAQ before I ask my question :)
[01:06] <Lars_G> :D
[01:07] <redleader> can anyone here help me? I'm attempting to add packages to my fresh 6.1 install, but the package manager gives me an error when I try and open it
[01:08] <VanessaE> red: what error, exactly?
[01:08] <VanessaE> you run it with   kdesu adept_manager   right?
[01:09] <redleader> I just tried to open it from the GUI
[01:09] <redleader> it says the APT database couldnt be opened
[01:09] <Jucato> !adpet crash fix | redleader
[01:09] <redleader> may be caused by incorrect APT config or similar issue
[01:09] <Jucato> ubotu: ping
[01:09] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[01:09] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | redleader
[01:09] <ubotu> redleader: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[01:10] <Jucato> dang! I always misspell Adept...
[01:10] <redleader> then just open it again?
[01:10] <Jucato> yes
[01:11] <redleader> no, same error
[01:12] <redleader> it says to try running apt-setup and apt-get update and see if it resolves the issue
[01:12] <redleader> I tried to run apt-setup, but it says theres no such command
[01:12] <VanessaE> you don't already have something else running do you? (synaptic, dselect, aptitude?)
[01:12] <redleader> I dont even know what those things are
[01:12] <redleader> so I'm assuming not
[01:12] <redleader> all I've got open is konq, this and kopete
[01:13] <VanessaE> hrm
[01:13] <VanessaE> wait...
[01:13] <Jucato> redleader: did you try the commands that was given to you? (sudo dpkg --configure -a)
[01:13] <redleader> yea, I did
[01:13] <redleader> wait, were those multiple commands?
[01:13] <hazard> what you find the little R2 beeping nose absoloutley halarious when a missile is fired at you? (in the original 3d xwing game)
[01:14] <redleader> well, hilarious or really annoying
[01:14] <redleader> either or
[01:14] <hazard> lol
[01:14] <Jucato> redleader: yeah 2 commands actually
[01:15] <redleader> yea, I see that now
[01:15] <redleader> said dpkg unknown option
[01:15] <redleader> is it supposed to be -a'
[01:15] <Jucato> yes
[01:15] <Jucato> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:17] <redleader> same problem
[01:17] <danny500> #firefox
[01:17] <redleader> is there anyway to just edit the sources.list  file?
[01:17] <redleader> the thingy in /etc/apt
[01:17] <VanessaE> sure,  sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:18] <VanessaE> (in the terminal)
[01:18] <caleb> ok serched the FAQ and couldn't find my answer... is there a way to turn down the sensitivity (NOT the acceleration) or my mouse? At low speeds it is just WAY too twitchy.  I have a Logitech MX1000
[01:18] <caleb> or = on
[01:18] <Jucato> caleb: System Settings -> Mouse -> Advanced tab?
[01:19] <redleader> and what is the actual url of the universe repository?
[01:19] <VanessaE> red: it's already in the sources.list
[01:19] <redleader> wait, I can just uncomment 2 lines
[01:19] <redleader> awesome
[01:19] <VanessaE> about half-way down
[01:20] <redleader> thanks for the help!
[01:20] <Jucato> !components | redleader
[01:20] <ubotu> redleader: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:21] <redleader> aha, I was looking for some info like that, couldnt find it
[01:21] <redleader> man... using linux for the first time makes me realize how little I actually know
[01:25] <VanessaE> well in reality, Windows would be the same way
[01:25] <VanessaE> if you've never used it before, you can make a real mess of things, you know?
[01:26] <redleader> yea, so I've been told
[01:26] <redleader> so I'm attempting to be cautious
[01:26] <redleader> which is kind of hard for someone whos used to configuring things in seconds
[01:28] <VanessaE> *nod*
[01:28] <VanessaE> at least linux is getting better about these things.
[01:29] <caleb> sorry I ended up on an extended afk right after I asked my question, let me read back :)
[01:29] <VanessaE> ok time to run...Jeopardy is on. :)
[01:30] <caleb> jucato: I checked system settings, mouse, advanced.... saw controls for mouse accel but not sensitivity, though I just found a way to get some more functionality out of my mx1000 so let me re-load OS so I can see effects
[01:31] <Admiral_Chicago> caleb: just restart X
[01:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: crtl alt backspace?
[01:31] <Admiral_Chicago> no need to reboot
[01:31] <Jucato> yes
[01:32] <Admiral_Chicago> hey are you a Ubuntu member?
[01:32] <Jucato> ?
[01:33] <Admiral_Chicago> obviously not
[01:33] <Admiral_Chicago> !member
[01:33] <ubotu> Want to become an Ubuntu member? Look at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/processes/newmember
[01:33] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: no. I haven't signed the CoC if that's what you mean
[01:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: there is more to it, a Ubuntu member is a member who contributes significantly to the community and is officially recognized as a member by communtiy council (including sabdfl) but meet me in #kubuntu-offtopic for more
[01:36] <Jucato> #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:36] <Jucato> lol
[01:38] <caleb> ok back, guess my changes didn't work because I had to go back through command prompt and restore xorg.conf :)
[01:40] <caleb> Ok so under System Settings, Keyboard & Mouse, there should be a sensitivity setting (NOT acceleration) I'm fine with how fast it moves across the screen normally, but it's twitchy at low speeds (mx1000)
[01:40] <caleb> ?
[01:40] <Admiral_Chicago> caleb: are you running anything like XGL/beryl?
[01:40] <caleb> doesn't sound familiar but it could have been installed, what's the quick way to check?
[01:41] <Jucato> I didn't know that sensitivity wasn't there. I'm not sure if all mice have sensitivity settings...
[01:41] <Admiral_Chicago> caleb:
[01:41] <Admiral_Chicago> you probably don't have it
[01:42] <Admiral_Chicago> from command line  compiz --replace dbus csm
[01:43] <caleb> command not found
[01:45] <caleb> Admiral_Chicago: bash: compiz: command not found
[01:46] <Admiral_Chicago> caleb: then you don't have it
[01:46] <knight> hi all
[01:47] <beemer> evening all - anyone familiar with a biostart nf61vm2 motherboard?
[01:47] <knight> I just installed knetwork manager
[01:47] <knight> on my laptop
[01:47] <hazard> who would I change the screen resolution from the command line?
[01:47] <knight> and it does not detect the network interfaces
[01:47] <caleb> ok so I need to apt-get it?
[01:48] <caleb> or just a package installer like adept?
[01:49] <knight> I am having problems with knetworkmanager
[01:50] <knight> hi all
[01:57] <Mez> knight, be patient, a lot of people are asleep at this point
[01:57] <knight> lol
[01:57] <knight> ok
[01:59] <basstich> Hello to all - I would like some help solving a print setup problem that is driving me nuts...
[02:00] <basstich> My system settings launches, but when I select printers, the screen clears, and no printer setup scren shows up.
[02:01] <OOD> hazard: xrandr -s widthxheight
[02:02] <hazard> actually, just using the screen settings works too
[02:03] <hazard> (like xrandr -s 0-whatever)
[02:03] <hazard> and now starcraft works! =)
[02:03] <dalbirdy1> hey guys how do I set up the extrat keyboard buttons usng edgy?
[02:03] <basstich> anyone a systems settings guru here?
[02:03] <Zaire> ummm anyone in here know how to setup the stuff for getting xgl cause Im not sure what entirely to do with the sources list here
[02:06] <basstich> how can you 'repair' system settings.... anyone?
[02:06] <Jucato> basstich: what's the problem?
[02:07] <basstich> jucato -
[02:07] <basstich> When I selet a printer on systems settings... nothing happens
[02:08] <basstich> I have the printer working in ubuntu
[02:08] <Zaire> !xgl
[02:08] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:08] <basstich> but nothing shows up for setting up printers in kubuntu
[02:09] <basstich> pm, jucato?
[02:10] <inteliwasp> i am trying to install dapper on my desktop with an ati card, but when X starts, it just goes to a black screen and if i try to go to a console the monitor does it's "out of sync" message
[02:10] <Jucato> basstich: ah sorry, don't know stuff about printers. I thought it was something about System Settings...
[02:10] <basstich> jucato
[02:11] <basstich> no prob - my system settings won't let me start printers
[02:11] <OOD> hazard: yea that works too :)
[02:12] <bLaZeD> can anyone tell me how i get the uuid of a device...its a command i cant find
[02:12] <basstich> how do you repair the system settings program?
[02:12] <bLaZeD> !fstab
[02:12] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[02:13] <bLaZeD> !partitions
[02:13] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[02:13] <basstich> !system settings
[02:14] <danny500> !libc
[02:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:14] <danny500> darn
[02:14] <basstich> !printers
[02:14] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[02:15] <danny500> does anyone here know how to erase a word from the built in spellchecker in firefox2?
[02:15] <beemer> evening all - anyone familiar with a biostar nf61vm2 motherboard?
[02:15] <pcnerd37> Hello.  Im hoping somebody can help me with some wireless issues im having with 6.10.  I am running the live disk on my Thinkpad T60p before I install it and i cant figure out how to get on my wireless network that uses WPA security instead of WEP.  Can somebody tell me what to do or point me in the right direction?
[02:15] <danny500> should I just go into the code and manually change it?
[02:16] <Jucato> danny500: maybe in #firefox (if there's a channel like that)?
[02:16] <danny500> I'm in that room already but no one knows
[02:16] <danny500> lol
[02:16] <Jucato> O_O
[02:16] <danny500> thats quit ironic
[02:16] <Jucato> yeah
[02:17] <Jucato> good luck in finding someone in here who does... :(
[02:17] <danny500> mozilla put the option to add words but not delete words, pretty dumn
[02:18] <danny500> ok, I went into the code and fixed it
[02:18] <danny500> nm
[02:18] <danny500> nother question though
[02:18] <Jucato> the source code?
[02:18] <danny500> yeah
[02:19] <pcnerd37> an anybody help me with my wireless issue??? ^^
[02:19] <danny500> to install flashplayer 9, do I just swap the libflashplayer.so from flash 7 with the flash 9?
[02:19] <Jucato> or you could...
[02:19] <Jucato> !flash 9 | danny500
[02:19] <ubotu> danny500: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[02:20] <inteliwasp> i am trying to install dapper on my desktop with an ati card, but when X starts, it just goes to a black screen and if i try to go to a console the monitor does it's "out of sync" message
[02:20] <danny500> I already downloaded it
[02:20] <danny500> I just need to get it working
[02:20] <danny500> but what I said will work though right
[02:20] <Jucato> probably. I installed using the repo... so...
[02:20] <danny500> the what?
[02:21] <pcnerd37> anybody?
[02:21] <Jucato> the repo from that link given above (seveas.imbrandon.com)
[02:21] <Jucato> pcnerd37: sorry, don't know wireless....
[02:21] <danny500> oh ok
[02:21] <pcnerd37> thanks anyway Jucato, i will ask later, im going to run and go get dinner and worry about it after then
[02:22] <danny500> what is edgy for?
[02:22] <danny500> is it an OS?
[02:23] <Jucato> danny500: current Kubuntu release/version
[02:23] <Jucato> !edgy
[02:23] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[02:23] <Jucato> danny500: but there's a repo for Dapper in that page
[02:24] <danny500> oh I have Ubuntu Dapper (6.06 LTS) is edgy better then that?
[02:24] <Jucato> in some ways yes, in some ways no. :)
[02:24] <Jucato> a lot of the stuff in Edgy are new, and some are quite... um... edgy
[02:24] <inteliwasp> can anyone help me with my video problems?
[02:25] <danny500> lol
[02:25] <danny500> which one would you say is more stable right now?
[02:25] <Jucato> Dapper LTS defnitely
[02:25] <danny500> the one I have or edgy?
[02:25] <inteliwasp> 6.06
[02:26] <danny500> o
[02:26] <Jucato> and Dapper is meant to be stable for a loooong time
[02:26] <danny500> so I should stick with the one I got then
[02:26] <Jucato> well, depends on your taste :)
[02:27] <danny500> I don't care what the OS looks like, as long as it's fast, reliable and easy to use.
[02:27] <danny500> so edgy is just more graphical then right
[02:27] <danny500> better looking
[02:27] <Jucato> they're both graphical
[02:28] <danny500> I mean better looking
[02:28] <Jucato> hm... I think the artwork is better. but it's really different (different colors)
[02:28] <Jucato> you could go check the screenshots
[02:28] <danny500> o ok
[02:30] <danny500> don't look any different to me
[02:30] <danny500> oh well who cares
[02:30] <Jucato> danny500: the color scheme is now purplish blue for one
[02:30] <danny500> does anyone here have gmail?
[02:30] <Jucato> yes?
[02:31] <danny500> brb
[02:31] <danny500> send me an invite at danieldewitt_75@hotmail.com ok please
[02:32] <danny500> cause thats the only way in
[02:32] <esaym> i got gmail
[02:32] <Lars_G> I give up
[02:32] <Lars_G> no matter how much I check and recheck the dvd there are still files with errors
[02:32] <esaym> is #ubuntu down?
[02:33] <Lars_G> and if I add the apt repos, it will pull EVERYTHING from the repos instead of the DVD.
[02:33] <Lars_G> It should pull from the dvd, and if it's missing or broken, then pull from repo :'(
[02:33] <Lars_G> If only I could use aptitude to dist-upgrade
[02:34] <Lars_G> danny500: do you still want an invite?
[02:34] <Lars_G> I wonder what I'll get back for an invite
[02:34] <Lars_G> ;)
[02:35] <Jucato> danny500: sent you one
[02:35] <Lars_G> Jucato: You seem smart... hell you can write and read!!! don't you know how to produce the effect I wish?
[02:35] <Lars_G> Jucato: Which is to have apt pull all the files it can for dist-upgrade from the dvd, and only if one is missing or broken (damaged md5) then pull from online repos?
[02:35] <Jucato> Lars_G: um.. what were you trying to do again? (sorry I must have missed it)
[02:35] <Jucato> ah that I wouldn't know...
[02:36] <Lars_G> Else, and if wget is right, I have 6 hours of dist-upgrade ahead of me
[02:36] <Jucato> I haven't tried using a CD/DVD apt...
[02:36] <Lars_G> Ok, thanks anyhow man
[02:36] <danny500> thanx Jucato
[02:36] <Lars_G> danny500: I sent you one too
[02:36] <Jucato> danny500: you received it?
[02:36] <Lars_G> danny500: Now you can oppen two directions
[02:36] <Jucato> Lars_G: O_O
[02:36] <Jucato> lol
[02:36] <danny500> hold on I'll check
[02:36] <campbch> anyone know how to get wine to recognize multiple disks on installation?
[02:36] <Lars_G> Jucato: I sent it before you said you sent one :P
[02:37] <Jucato> hehe I sent it before I even said it :)
[02:37] <danny500> man ff2 is way to cool
[02:37] <Lars_G> danny500: Yes it is.
[02:37] <Lars_G> I've been using it since beta 1
[02:37] <Lars_G> :D
[02:37] <Lars_G> And I would've checked it out before, but I had no time to pull and compile
[02:37] <Lars_G> Jucato: And I tought you where smart :)
[02:37] <esaym> no one knows if #ubuntu is down?
[02:38] <Lars_G> esaym: define down
[02:38] <inteliwasp> or mine...
[02:38] <campbch> anyone know if there is a way to find out how to get wine to recognize multiple disks on install?
[02:38] <Lars_G> esaym: It's very RARE for a single channel on IRC to be "down" given the way irc works.
[02:38] <Lars_G> esaym: Btw I just checked and it's not "down" here
[02:38] <Lars_G> campbch: rephrase
[02:38] <Lars_G> inteliwasp: repeat
[02:38] <Lars_G> everybody else. Help me now! :P I demmand it
[02:39] <inteliwasp> i cant start xmms since upgrading to edgy
[02:39] <OOD> so many games are broken in edgy because of SDL
[02:39] <Hawkwind> campbch: Have you tried asking in #WineHQ ?
[02:40] <campbch> hmm? i'm trying to find out how to get wine to recognize disk two; it says z:/media/cdrom0, but it says it can't find it
[02:40] <campbch> thats the answer i was looking for :D i thought it was just #wine
[02:40] <OOD> campbch: what do you mean?
[02:40] <Lars_G> OOD: sdl is broken in edgy?
[02:41] <Lars_G> inteliwasp: What happens when you try to start it? from the command line?
[02:41] <esaym> well crap
[02:41] <Hawkwind> campbch: For future references: /msg chanserv list *search-term*  Use the *'s and you can search for whatever channel you want
[02:41] <campbch> ahh nice :D
[02:41] <OOD> considering several games dont work and one game has completely white textures, yes its pretty broken
[02:41] <inteliwasp> Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[02:41] <inteliwasp>   serial 2454 error_code 8 request_code 72 minor_code 0
[02:41] <Lars_G> Hawkwind: That's usefull
[02:41] <danny500> Jucato whats your gmail address? I'll add you
[02:41] <danny500> wait never mind
[02:41] <danny500> got it
[02:41] <Jucato> danny500: I sent you an invite. shouldn't it be there?
[02:41] <Lars_G> danny500: No need, when you get an invite, he lands in your contact list, and you land on his
[02:42] <Jucato> :)
[02:42] <inteliwasp> Lars_G:  and it says no joystick, but i think i can fix that...
[02:42] <Lars_G> inteliwasp: Damn, no idea man, sorry
[02:42] <OOD> does anyone here have edgy installed?
[02:42] <Lars_G> OOD: I'm trying, beleive me, I'm trying
[02:43] <OOD> does anyone here have a *working* edgy installed?
[02:43] <inteliwasp> i do tho... kinda....
[02:43] <Lars_G> OOD: Do we get more credit for answering in stages?
[02:43] <OOD> would you be able to install and run neverball and tell if it has all white textures in game?
[02:43] <OOD> lol
[02:44] <campbch> :(
[02:44] <Lars_G> hmmm
[02:44] <campbch> noone in winehq is active
[02:44] <Lars_G> Not until I finish installing, sorry
[02:44] <campbch> anyways, to clarify, it states that it needs the second cd, but says that the setup file does not exist on any mount points for the disk?
[02:45] <[cf] nightrid3r> !divx
[02:45] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:45] <OOD> inteliwasp: all you'd need is any card with 3d acceleration available :P
[02:45] <Hawkwind> !gnewsense > Hawkwind
[02:45] <inteliwasp> OOD:  i have tried, but ati just sucks for drivers
[02:46] <OOD> campbch: are you trying to install a game or program from multiple cds?
[02:46] <Lars_G> campbch: You'll have to unmount, change CDs and remount. it's not easy with wine, but it's doable
[02:46] <campbch> yes
[02:47] <OOD> inteliwasp: yeah, hopefully AMD will get ATi to work harder on the linux drivers
[02:47] <campbch> the command is mount? ill man it
[02:47] <Lars_G> as an end user man "pmount" and "pumount"
[02:48] <campbch> how do i view mounted devices?
[02:48] <inteliwasp> OOD:  my video card om my laptop is crap anyway,,, generic cheepie and shared mem
[02:48] <campbch> it says /dev/hdb is not mounted? i thought that was the one it was using for cds
[02:48] <Lars_G> campbch: "mount" with nothing else
[02:49] <OOD> inteliwasp: i was just needing someone to test the game to see if im not the only one with SDL problems, but thanks anyway :)
[02:50] <campbch> ... ... which is the cdrom?
[02:50] <campbch> and how do i know which to mount once it's unmounted?
[02:50] <Lars_G> your cdrom is possibly mounted at /media/cdrom
[02:50] <Lars_G> or /media/cdrom0
[02:50] <Lars_G> once you "pumount /media/cdrom0" you can try "pmount /dev/cdrom"
[02:51] <campbch> ok, /dev/cdrom is not mounted
[02:52] <esaym> anyone know how to disable the syslog?
[02:52] <esaym> i dont like all the hd access it causes
[02:52] <esaym> also daemon.log
[02:53] <campbch> it's still not working :(
[02:53] <OOD> campbch: i think you're making this more complicated than it has to be
[02:53] <OOD> run winecfg and autodetect in the drives tab
[02:54] <OOD> insert the first cd, you'll get a popup to mount
[02:54] <OOD> then navigate to the directory where its mounted (probably /media/cdrom) and run the app
[02:54] <campbch> alright, that helps
[02:54] <OOD> then when you're done with the first cd run wine eject
[02:55] <OOD> then repeat the procedure with the second cd :)
[02:56] <bomber> is there a program like xtart for kubuntu
[02:56] <OOD> what is xtart?
[02:56] <campbch> :( i think you're misunderstanding me
[02:57] <campbch> i'm already past the first cd
[02:57] <campbch> it detected it
[02:57] <campbch> and now i need the second cd
[02:57] <Lars_G> read what he said
[02:57] <Lars_G> it will help you
[02:57] <bomber> it a window manager ... manager
[02:57] <Jucato> window manager manager?
[02:58] <campbch> i'm confident i could go to the second cd .exe and start it, but it needs to be done from within the installer. the installer references things through a windows file system; eg, X:/SOMETHING and will NOT access the cdrom after it has changed.
[02:58] <bomber> allows to start different window managers from a menu.... kde, afterstep, blackbox and suck
[02:58] <bomber> woops... such
[02:58] <bitmess> i tried to reload windows and now i can't boot kubantu. it just boos windows now. how can i get my kubuntu back?
[02:58] <azriel> you can do that from kdm
[02:58] <Jucato> bomber: if you install a new window manager or desktop environment, you can logout and choose the Session from the menu
[02:58] <OOD> bomber: i think that can easily be done in terminal, dont know the command though
[02:59] <campbch> bitmess: windows overwrites everything... you need to install it and then install kubuntu
[02:59] <bomber> i dont run kdm... i boot into text mode
[02:59] <campbch> :(
[02:59] <Jucato> ah that's the problem then...
[02:59] <Jucato> hm..
[02:59] <Lars_G> bitmess: you need to start from a livecd and reload your bootloader (grub or lilo) on the mbr
[02:59] <Jucato> !grub
[02:59] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[02:59] <Jucato> bitmess: ^^^^^^
[02:59] <bitmess> it's too late for that can i make grub boot my kubuntu again?
[02:59] <CVirus> bomber: just kill your current window manager .. and start the required one
[03:00] <Lars_G> bitmess: If it's windows XP and you don't want to damage it, then you'd need to reconfig the windows bootloader to load ubuntu instead
[03:00] <Jucato> !grub | bitmess
[03:00] <ubotu> bitmess: grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:00] <CVirus> bomber: for example ... killall kwin
[03:01] <bomber> well i have enlightenment and when i logout and try to run it i get an error
[03:01] <bitmess> how can i config windows bootloader to boot kubuntu?
[03:01] <CVirus> bomber: sorry ... cant help you as I dont know the error yet
[03:01] <bomber> ok let me get right back
[03:01] <CVirus> bitmess: I beleive you cant do that
[03:01] <Jucato> bitmess: you can't
[03:01] <Jucato> afaik
[03:01] <campbch> ok, i got it, but it frozed... owell...
[03:02] <OOD> you can do it
[03:02] <Jucato> bitmess: why don't you follow the links that was given to you?
[03:02] <OOD> its possible, but a waste of time
[03:02] <CVirus> bitmess: you could re-install grub ... read the links Jucato already gave you
[03:03] <bitmess> thanks, i'm going to read now.
[03:07] <declan> Hi, I'm having a problem using apt. Its locked up but I can't tell what process is using it? What do I need to keep open in ksysguard?
[03:07] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | declan
[03:07] <ubotu> declan: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[03:07] <Jucato> declan: Ctrl+Esc opens ksysguard
[03:07] <campbch> why's it say device is busy when i try to unmount my cd?
[03:07] <declan> thanks guys, I'll try that!
[03:08] <Hawkwind> campbch: Are you in the directory you mounted it to ?
[03:08] <campbch> i type pumount /dev/cdrom, and it says device is busy?
[03:08] <Hawkwind> campbch: Are you in the directory you mounted it to ?
[03:08] <OOD> campbch: run wine eject
[03:08] <campbch> ...
[03:08] <Hawkwind> You don't umount the /dev/ device
[03:09] <Hawkwind> campbch: You umount /mnt/some-mount-point
[03:09] <Zaire> has anyone else been able to get a dual boot with kubuntu and XP cause my kubuntu keeps fragging XP
[03:09] <Jucato> or /media/mount-point
[03:09] <campbch> ok, /media/cdrom0 is busy
[03:09] <Hawkwind> campbch: Is your terminal or konqueror in that directory ?
[03:10] <campbch> it is in media
[03:10] <campbch> i am looking at cdrom0
[03:10] <Hawkwind> campbch: Then that's why
[03:10] <campbch> in sl
[03:10] <Hawkwind> campbch: cd ~/  and then do it
[03:10] <campbch> i went there after you asked
[03:10] <campbch> i was in home
[03:10] <campbch> when i did it the first time
[03:11] <OOD> campbch: have you tried wine eject in terminal?
[03:11] <campbch> yes
[03:11] <azriel> Zaire does grub have an entry for xp and it just doesnt work or what?
[03:11] <campbch> it says language not detected, something or other
[03:11] <Zaire> it has an entry but I get a blue screen of death when I try to load XP
[03:11] <campbch> and then no cd rom drive detected
[03:12] <CVirus> campbch: try to force the un-mount operation with the -f argument
[03:12] <azriel> Zaire did you resize the xp partition or something possibly since it was installed?
[03:12] <Zaire> nope
[03:12] <paty> http://secreto2006.obolog.com
[03:13] <campbch> ok, it was lazy
[03:13] <azriel> i'd check the /boot/grub/menu.lst file and make sure the entry for xp is correct
[03:13] <campbch> got it ;D thanks
[03:13] <Zaire> it is...XP goes into initial loading process then bam hits blue brick wall of death
[03:14] <Hawkwind> paty: Why are you posting that ?
[03:14] <azriel> sorry havent had that one happen to me before so cant be any help there
[03:15] <paty> because is a god blog. Cool. That's all. Thanks. Bye.
[03:15] <Kr4t05> I'm trying to make a podcast with Skype and Audacity. When I try to record with Audacity, it complains because my sound card is busy (with Skype). How can I forward my audio input to a pseudo-device that Audacity will accept?
[03:15] <bomber> hey Hawkwind... do you know of a program like xtart for kubuntu?
[03:15] <paty> my english is not the best sorry
[03:16] <paty> by and nice to meet you
[03:16] <OOD> Kr4t05: hmm, could be because of OSS, try selecting the ALSA driver in Skype
[03:17] <Kr4t05> OOD: Yeah, that's already selected.
[03:17] <Hawkwind> bomber: Unfortunately no.  Someone should port it from Mandriva to *Ubuntu though.  It's just a python or perl script
[03:17] <azriel> is your soundcard set to full duplex?
[03:17] <Kr4t05> azriel: I think so.
[03:17] <OOD> audacity uses arts right?
[03:18] <Kr4t05> azriel: yeah...
[03:18] <Kr4t05> OOD: I think?
[03:19] <King_Brad> anyone know country songs? i am looking for one, but cant think of the name, i do know a line from the song...
[03:21] <Kr4t05> OOD: Isn't there some way I can ln -s /dev/dsp to something?
[03:27] <OOD> Kr4t05: audacity uses OSS, so if your card doesn't have hardware mixing then it hogs all of your soundcard
[03:30] <OOD> try compiling audacity with alsa support instead to see if that could solve your problem: http://audacityteam.org/wiki/index.php?title=Linux_Issues
[03:30] <Zaire> how do I get the nvidia beta drivers
[03:30] <Kr4t05> OOD: That's a good idea.
[03:30] <OOD> im gonna give give it a try too since i need a decent audio editor working :)
[03:30] <nzx> hey, does anyone know how to make kopete do auto spell check ? i've set the option but it does not get enabled
[03:30] <OOD> !nvidia
[03:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:31] <OOD> Zaire: ^^
[03:35] <LeeJunFan> nzx: I've found spellcheck only works with certain IM protocols for some reason.
[03:36] <nzx> LeeJunFan, did you manage to get it working with msn ?
[03:36] <LeeJunFan> nzx: aim for sure no.
[03:36] <LeeJunFan> yeah, msn works.
[03:36] <LeeJunFan> nzx: do you have ispell and or aspell installed?
[03:36] <nzx> LeeJunFan, aspell i think
[03:37] <nzx> LeeJunFan, it kinda works, if i right click in the chat window and click on auto spell check, it works, but it wont save the setting
[03:37] <nzx> nzx, i want it so that it just does it, rather then me having to select it all the time!
[03:38] <LeeJunFan> nzx: ah, I see what you mean. Mine is enabled by default on all my contacts. hrm.
[03:38] <nzx> LeeJunFan, how did you do that ?
[03:39] <LeeJunFan> nzx: settings, behaviour, chat 3rd option down.
[03:39] <LeeJunFan> nzx: under settings, configure... that is
[03:39] <nzx> LeeJunFan, i have that enabled
[03:40] <nzx> LeeJunFan, but incorretly spelt words are not picked up and highlighted
[03:40] <LeeJunFan> open ~/.kde/share/config/kopeterc and check for existance of a line SpellCheck=true
[03:42] <nzx> LeeJunFan, its there under apperance
[03:43] <nzx> LeeJunFan, but further down there is a section with lots of my msn contacts with an option saying EnableAutoSpellCheck = faule
[03:43] <LeeJunFan> nzx: yeah, I don't know why it wouldn't be saving your individual prefs.
[03:44] <nzx> LeeJunFan, me neither
[03:45] <LeeJunFan> nzx: I have a feeling that it's a bug in kopete. I can't set mine either. I must have been able to at some time - but with the current version is't not keeping settings.
[03:45] <nzx> LeeJunFan, oki
[03:46] <LeeJunFan> nzx: even on the contacts I have with spellchecking on, if I turn it off it won't remember, it stays on next time I open a window to them.
[03:47] <nzx> LeeJunFan, i'll check if there is a bug filed
[03:47] <smaggard> hi
[03:47] <Kr4t05> OOD: I can't get Audacity to compile with ALSA support. :/
[03:48] <smaggard> hmm ive always just used apt-get
[03:48] <OOD> Kr4t05: im compiling it right now, but it doesn't look like it's going to work, im getting a lot of errors in the compile
[03:48] <smaggard> hmm
[03:48] <Kr4t05> OOD: I kept getting errors, too.
[03:49] <smaggard> maybe its broke heh
[03:49] <OOD> warnings*
[03:49] <OOD> not errors
[03:49] <smaggard> warnings are better than errors :D
[03:53] <OOD> Kr4t05: installed it, now *fingerscrossed* lets hope it runs
[03:53] <Kr4t05> OOD: What arc you on?
[03:53] <OOD> x86
[03:53] <OOD> runs :D
[03:54] <OOD> i've packaged it into a deb, i can send it to you if you want
[03:55] <Kr4t05> dood
[03:55] <Kr4t05> fer shure
[03:55] <OOD> im running edgy, so it might not run on dapper
[03:56] <Kr4t05> OOD: I'm running edgy, too.
[03:56] <Kr4t05> :P
[03:57] <OOD> http://rapidshare.com/files/1761289/audacity-src-1.3.2_1.3.2-1_i386.deb.html
[03:57] <OOD> remove the older audacity first so the files dont get mixed up :)
[03:57] <Kr4t05> right on
[03:58] <OOD> hopefully being able to use ALSA will solve your problem :)
[03:59] <Kr4t05> OOD: Ya
[04:00] <Kr4t05> OOD: RapidShare kinda sucks.
[04:00] <Kr4t05> Why didn't you just DCC it to me?
[04:00] <OOD> i didnt register my name so i dont think i can send files directly
[04:00] <Kr4t05> Meh, okay.
[04:04] <Kr4t05> OOD: It whines about libjack-something-something, I'm just apt-get'ing jackd with the hope it works.
[04:05] <knight> hi all
[04:06] <knight> I am having problems with knetworkmanager
[04:06] <knight> anybody play around with that
[04:07] <Kr4t05> OOD: I give you 400 jumbo chocolate chip cookies!
[04:08] <OOD> Kr4t05: works with skype?
[04:08] <Kr4t05> YA!
[04:08] <OOD> nice :)
[04:08] <knight> anyone played around with knetworkmanager
[04:10] <fignew> knight: yes
[04:10] <knight> ok
[04:10] <knight> I have it installed
[04:10] <knight> but somehow no network show
[04:10] <knight> and right now i am connected with wireless
[04:11] <knight> but not with knetworkmanager
[04:11] <fignew> does it show the wired network?
[04:13] <PenguinistaKC> Is there a front-end for ssh-agent in Kubuntu?
[04:13] <pcnerd37> Hello.  Im trying out Kubuntu 6.10 before installing it to my new Thinkpad T60, and i was wondering if somebody could tell me how to set up the wireless for WPA because thats what I have at home and i can only see how to set up WEP.  If somebody could tell me or point me in the right direction, i would really appreciate it
[04:14] <PenguinistaKC> pcnerd37: sudo apt-get install network-manager knetworkmanager
[04:14] <knight> ok
[04:14] <knight> but then you turn in to the problem o
[04:15] <knight> not seeing any wireless accesspoint
[04:15] <knight> like me
[04:15] <knight> I have knetworkmanager
[04:15] <knight> but not working
[04:15] <fignew> does it show the wired network?
[04:15] <pcnerd37> Thanks PenguinistaKC, i will try that when i can get wired access of my network to try it, unfortunately one of my roommates is using the only wire right now
[04:15] <PenguinistaKC> pcnerd37: Once installed, restart services, or log out/log in
[04:16] <pcnerd37> ok
[04:16] <pcnerd37> im running the live dvd right now but will install it in a little bit.  what is the approx time of install?
[04:17] <PenguinistaKC> 10 or 15 minutes for me
[04:17] <pcnerd37> it will be a dual boot with XP btw
[04:17] <PenguinistaKC> depends on the speed of your machine
[04:18] <pcnerd37> ok, cool.  I have yet to repartion my hard drive, will the install allow me to do that?
[04:19] <max_> anyone know if PhotoShop 7 or CS works on KDE (edgy) with Wine?
[04:20] <OOD> check appdb.winehq.org
[04:20] <PenguinistaKC> does anyone know if a front-end exists for ssh-agent on kubuntu?
[04:22] <pcnerd37> Is there any way of programming in C# using the .Net 2.0 framework on kubuntu?  like with wine or something?
[04:23] <felixjet> holly $%$"!$% !!!!
[04:23] <felixjet> again !
[04:23] <felixjet> when i want to eject a "$"$""% CD it says that the driver is in use. and dont let me umount it !
[04:23] <felixjet> is the 3rd time i need to close session to eject a CD
[04:23] <felixjet> how can i fix thiS!?!?
[04:24] <OOD> pcnerd37: mono
[04:24] <rewarpster> anyone uses KVirc?
[04:24] <felixjet> can anyone help me pleasee
[04:25] <pcnerd37> I have heard of that, but last i heard it was only .Net 1.  For school i need .Net 2.0, and likely 3.0 when it comes out
[04:25] <OOD> felixjet: you using wine?
[04:25] <larson9999> max_: wine doesn't even work on edgy for me.  not the new version anyway
[04:25] <felixjet> OOD:  yes but not now
[04:25] <max_> wine works on edgy for me
[04:25] <max_> i just had to DL the new one
[04:25] <larson9999> max_ what version of wine?
[04:25] <OOD> yea wine works perfectly here too
[04:25] <felixjet> i just open the CD folder, open a video with kaffeine, see it 20 secs, closed it, try to eject CD and it dont works!
[04:25] <felixjet> not even from unit button
[04:26] <max_> ummm
[04:26] <max_> idunno
[04:26] <rewarpster> anyone uses KVirc?
[04:26] <max_> latest
[04:26] <felixjet> this is so annoying
[04:26] <larson9999> max_ where did you get it?
[04:26] <max_> sudo apt-get install wine
[04:26] <larson9999> max_ which repository?
[04:27] <OOD> default edgy one probably
[04:27] <max_> just do sudo apt-get install wine
[04:27] <felixjet> OOD can you help me please
[04:27] <larson9999> max_ do 'wine --version' and tell me what it says
[04:27] <Zaire> so anyone got any ideas what you do when even root can't write a file to the HD
[04:27] <OOD> felixjet: someone here had a similar problem, let me scroll up and find it :)
[04:28] <max_> .0.9.24
[04:28] <felixjet> ok
[04:28] <felixjet> thanks
[04:28] <felixjet> i go restart the fuc.... session so i can eject it
[04:28] <felixjet> :(
[04:28] <larson9999> max_ hmm
[04:30] <dalbirdy1> can you install vmware inside a vitual machine....and install another os inside that??
[04:31] <xsacha> im on kubuntu 64 with wine 0.9.23 and it works fine
[04:31] <smaggard> lol i would imagine that would be slow
[04:31] <OOD> dalbirdy1: yea i think that's possible
[04:31] <dalbirdy1> so you would have three os's running at the same time?
[04:31] <xsacha> yes dalbirdy1, you can
[04:31] <felixjet> i never understand one thing... VMWare is an emulator like wine? or a perfect new SO over one
[04:31] <tobias> :D
[04:31] <xsacha> or you could just have multiple OSes running in VMware
[04:31] <smaggard> well you can have 3 running at the same time regardless
[04:31] <tobias> its like the matrix!!!!!
[04:31] <tobias> or the multiple universe thingie
[04:31] <tobias> string theory
[04:31] <tobias> no?
[04:31] <inteliwasp> is there any avantage to have the backports active on 6.06?
[04:31] <xsacha> M theory..
[04:31] <dalbirdy> as long as you have the harwaer power!!
[04:32] <smaggard> just have like a tabbed browser with linux, bsd, and solaris and click among them :D
[04:32] <OOD> felixjet: try umount -f
[04:32] <smaggard> pffff and xp if you just HAVE  to.. haha
[04:32] <tobias> wow
[04:32] <tobias> no! the word was uttered!
[04:32] <xsacha> that's what vmware workstation lets you do
[04:33] <smaggard> i know this
[04:33] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hi
[04:33] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i got wine but how do irun something on it
[04:33] <tobias> the x..... word....
[04:33] <OOD> wine programname.exe
[04:33] <smaggard> just type wine and then the whatever.exe
[04:33] <inteliwasp> !backports | inteliwasp
[04:33] <ubotu> inteliwasp: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[04:33] <felixjet> i tried OOD
[04:33] <Th3_Cr0up13R> since it makes apparently a directory c/windows/.... but i cannot find the program anymore
[04:33] <felixjet> but gives me the same error: driver in use
[04:33] <felixjet> drive/
[04:33] <tobias> do i need a reallly good computer to use wine?
[04:33] <Th3_Cr0up13R> yes thats true but most of them need to be installed
[04:34] <OOD> Th3_Cr0up13R: the c drive is in .wine in your home directory
[04:34] <smaggard> nah any computer can run wine :D
[04:34] <felixjet> tobias 512-1024+ MB ram better
[04:34] <smaggard> vmware... now thats an app that needs some horsepower
[04:34] <tobias> ooh
[04:34] <tobias> felixjet: I got 256 :(
[04:34] <Th3_Cr0up13R> in my home directory i dont seem to have wine there
[04:34] <felixjet> u can run small programs
[04:34] <OOD> depends what OS you run in it :)
[04:35] <felixjet> but dont try to open a game or w/e
[04:35] <tobias> oki
[04:35] <smaggard> i run quickbooks with crossover on 512mb
[04:35] <OOD> Th3_Cr0up13R: .wine
[04:35] <OOD> its hidden
[04:35] <tobias> felixjet: thanks
[04:35] <felixjet> welcome
[04:35] <smaggard> wine probably wont work well with most games
[04:35] <OOD> it works perfectly with some
[04:35] <xsacha> any files starting with a dot(.) is hidden, like .kde, .emerald, .wine but they should all be in your ~ folder Th3_Cr0up13R
[04:35] <OOD> and some dont work at all yet
[04:35] <smaggard> some as in a couple haha
[04:35] <xsacha> make sure you ran "winecfg" as well Th3_Cr0up13R
[04:36] <smaggard> use ubuntu and sudo apt-get install wine and ur done
[04:36] <smaggard> :D
[04:36] <OOD> he installed a program in the c drive so he probably has .wine :)
[04:36] <smaggard> or crossover
[04:37] <felixjet> bah
[04:37] <felixjet> CDROM dont eject again
[04:37] <felixjet> i cant restart session everytime i need open CD. so WTF
[04:38] <felixjet> micro$oft CD system is 100x better
[04:38] <felixjet> u can eject it when u want. even from physical button
[04:38] <smaggard> what r u talking about?
[04:39] <felixjet> im so mad
[04:39] <Healot> mount madness, felix?
[04:39] <felixjet> yea
[04:39] <Admiral_Chicago> Healot: sounds like it
[04:39] <felixjet> kubuntu dont want gives me my CD roms ! $%$%$
[04:39] <Th3_Cr0up13R> winecfg?
[04:39] <felixjet> and i dont want restart session everytime
[04:39] <felixjet> :(
[04:39] <smaggard> if you cant get your cd rom to eject ur an idiot!!!
[04:40] <xsacha> felixjet: ???? you mean "user" in fstab?
[04:40] <felixjet> yea xsacha
[04:40] <Th3_Cr0up13R> you mean on the folder run   do i do a wine winecfg?
[04:40] <Admiral_Chicago> smaggard: that's not necessary
[04:40] <felixjet> it worked all time, it just come crazy half hour ago
[04:40] <smaggard> :D
[04:40] <xsacha> Th3_Cr0up13R: just run winecfg through alt+f2 or a konsole
[04:40] <felixjet> smaggard: maybe, since u are so smart, can share some tips
[04:41] <xsacha> i've never had any issues with my cdrom :S
[04:41] <smaggard> i think ur too dumb to take advice
[04:41] <smaggard> lol jk..
[04:41] <Healot> felixjet: tried "eject"(ing) manually?
[04:41] <felixjet> yea
[04:41] <smaggard> paperclip it
[04:41] <smaggard> :D
[04:42] <felixjet> dont worked any of this: rightclick CD -> eject ; physical eject button on the CDrom unit ;sudo umount -f /dev/hdc
[04:42] <felixjet> not any of this
[04:42] <smaggard> wow
[04:42] <Healot> felix, "eject <cdrom device>"
[04:42] <xsacha> what's error on sudo umount?
[04:42] <smaggard> may i ask, are you from india?
[04:42] <Healot> let's see the error message that it'll pop?
[04:42] <felixjet> it sais:
[04:43] <felixjet> eject: umount /media/cdrom0/ has failed.
[04:43] <Healot> expand the message, felix
[04:43] <smaggard> did u say it was ubuntu? have u checked the ubuntu forums?
[04:43] <xsacha> is this dapper then?
[04:43] <felixjet> Healot: it just say that
[04:43] <smaggard> the chances of you being the first to run into a problem are slim to none
[04:43] <Healot> click the arrow after the message :-
[04:44] <felixjet> what arrow...
[04:44] <felixjet> im doing in console
[04:44] <cory> ok i got kubuntu (32bit) installed on my system, but it doesnt pick up 4gigs of my ram. I know there's something i have to do now to get it to see all 4, but i dont remember exactly what...
[04:44] <Healot> rightclick CD -> eject  << i thought you're doing this
[04:44] <felixjet> i did also
[04:44] <felixjet> and no error msg
[04:45] <Healot> felix, then eject manually
[04:45] <felixjet> dont works
[04:45] <xsacha> what is error of "sudo eject" ?
[04:45] <xsacha> the one before: eject: unmount of `/media/cdrom' failed
[04:45] <Healot> felixjet: , with a paperclip or somthing that size
[04:45] <felixjet> the same xsacha, umount failed, media busy
[04:45] <unix_infidel> cory: should work automatically, might try using a different kernel though.
[04:45] <xsacha> busy
[04:45] <xsacha> being the key
[04:45] <unix_infidel> cory: i'd recommend compiling your own, its dead easy.
[04:46] <felixjet> but i just copied the file from CD to desktop
[04:46] <felixjet> i didnt anything else
[04:46] <OOD> cory: how much does it pick up?
[04:46] <felixjet> so i dont have any program dealing with CDrom
[04:46] <Healot> or use 64-bit distro, cory, well requires 64-bit CPU too
[04:46] <xsacha> felixjet: can you paste your fstab line for this cdrom?
[04:46] <felixjet> yea
[04:46] <cory> OOD: picks up 3.2gigs
[04:46] <felixjet>  /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 auto user,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0
[04:47] <cory> Healot: i tried 64bit last night, didnt like it. too quirky.
[04:47] <felixjet> its original from install
[04:47] <unix_infidel> cory: `uname -r` please
[04:47] <Healot> cory... 64-bit surpassed 4Gi RAM size, that's what I know
[04:47] <unix_infidel> its actually 4GB+
[04:47] <OOD> Healot: it's possible to make use of 16gigs of ram on 32-bit with a slightly modified linux kernel
[04:48] <nnn0> they got flash ready yet ?
[04:48] <Healot> yup
[04:48] <OOD> the server kernels have this switch enabled i beleive
[04:48] <Healot> not with the stock kernel though
[04:48] <smaggard> flash9 rocks!
[04:48] <OOD> yea
[04:48] <unix_infidel> but for most people 32bit is just fine. unless you NEED 64bit and are willing to support it, go 32
[04:48] <smaggard> it actually works very well
[04:48] <unix_infidel> cory: if you just pasted the uname -r that'd help us out a lot in getting your problem solved.
[04:48] <xsacha> felixjet: i know you have it set with "user", but try adding your user to system->administration->users&groups with cdrom access
[04:49] <felixjet> i have full access to all groups lol
[04:49] <xsacha> ok
[04:49] <cory> 2.6.17-10-generic
[04:49] <OOD> smaggard: yea it's almost flawless, i have less of a need for windows every day :)
[04:49] <cory> standard edgy kernel
[04:49] <Th3_Cr0up13R> how can i make wine to run the programs straight with wine program.exe
[04:49] <felixjet> it worked fine all time, but when i used the CD today, half hour ago, it dont want give me it bakc
[04:49] <smaggard> OOD> same here! now that flash works and  quickbooks works with crossover.. its like im completely windows free!!
[04:49] <xsacha> felixjet: something is using your cdrom.. ?
[04:49] <Th3_Cr0up13R> without having to go all the way to its .wine / ss/ss/wine program.exe
[04:49] <smaggard> wine should create shortcuts when you install it
[04:50] <smaggard> like on the desktop...
[04:50] <felixjet> xsacha dont think so, i didnt run any program since i enter the CD
[04:50] <cory> from what i understand, i can use a -extended-ram switch in compiling the kernel... something like that anyway
[04:50] <Th3_Cr0up13R> it didnt create any shortcuts
[04:50] <Th3_Cr0up13R> anything
[04:50] <xsacha> Th3_Cr0up13R: in your KMenu->Wine?
[04:50] <OOD> there is no wine shortcuts anywhere
[04:51] <Th3_Cr0up13R> no nothing
[04:51] <xsacha> wine always gives me a shortcut in KMenu
[04:51] <OOD> wine will make shortcuts once you install a windows program that would normally make a windows shortcut
[04:51] <xsacha> yes
[04:51] <smaggard> OOD> yeah it will do just like windows does.
[04:51] <smaggard> it did it with tightvnc i know for sure
[04:51] <Th3_Cr0up13R> all windows programs create shortcuts hehehe
[04:52] <Th3_Cr0up13R> but no i dont have any shortcuts anywhere
[04:52] <Th3_Cr0up13R> sorry about that
[04:52] <xsacha> Th3_Cr0up13R: what program did you install?
[04:52] <felixjet> afk :(
[04:52] <felixjet> thanks anyway
[04:52] <Th3_Cr0up13R> emule just to try if wine works
[04:52] <felixjet> i hope it dont happen again after rebooting
[04:52] <smaggard> WHY would u install a program like emule????
[04:52] <Th3_Cr0up13R> it does run it normally if i go all the way were the program is
[04:52] <smaggard> theres soooo  many better linux solutions
[04:52] <cory> anyone still feel like helping me?
[04:52] <Th3_Cr0up13R> thats the 1 i found at the moment and was small
[04:53] <smaggard> just get limewire
[04:53] <xsacha> native linux alternatives: http://www.kde-apps.org/index.php?xcontentmode=234
[04:53] <Th3_Cr0up13R> thats not the case im not using it , its just to try it
[04:53] <smaggard> limewire has a linux version... nice.
[04:53] <OOD> smaggard: or frostwire
[04:53] <xsacha> frostwire.. but it's java :P
[04:53] <OOD> its opensource
[04:53] <Th3_Cr0up13R> just to learn how to run this thing and what happens when it goes where
[04:53] <OOD> limewire is java too
[04:54] <xsacha> i know :(
[04:54] <Admiral_Chicago> cory: someone may not have the answoer
[04:54] <smaggard> limewire freakin rocks!!!
[04:54] <smaggard> cory whats the question
[04:54] <xsacha> felixjet: can you please run: lsof /cdrom
[04:55] <cory> smaggard: i'm trying to run 4gigs of ram on a 32bit system and only 3.2gigs are showing up. I know there's a kernel option, but i dont know which or how to use it
[04:55] <felixjet> xsacha: it says konqueror
[04:55] <xsacha> 3.2 gigs is an odd number :S
[04:55] <xsacha> konqueror is using it? close it?
[04:55] <smaggard> its 3.2 because of the way the memmory is calculated
[04:55] <felixjet> i will kill process
[04:55] <Admiral_Chicago> xsacha: no it's an even number
[04:56] <felixjet> i dont have konqueror open uU
[04:56] <xsacha> :S
[04:56] <OOD> lol
[04:56] <felixjet> now worked
[04:56] <felixjet> thanks !
[04:56] <xsacha> :)
[04:56] <smaggard> its like when you format a 40gb hd and only get 38.7
[04:56] <felixjet> i think konqueror is bugged
[04:56] <felixjet> and dont close at all when i close the window
[04:56] <xsacha> yeah i had konqueror using 70MB of RAM the other day when it wasnt open
[04:56] <smaggard> whoah
[04:56] <smaggard> dang
[04:56] <cory> smaggard: no, that's not it. When i installed kubuntu-64, it gave me 4.0gigs of ram
[04:56] <OOD> smaggard: er, im pretty sure RAM isn't calculated that way
[04:57] <cory> it has to do with the kernel only allocating the ram
[04:57] <cory> OOD: yea, it doesnt
[04:57] <xsacha> 3.2 sounds like an odd number, you'd expect 2 or 4 (if you had 4 gigs)
[04:57] <felixjet> well, now i can load the CD 2 of the movie hah
[04:57] <felixjet> see ya later
[04:57] <xsacha> cya
[04:57] <snerge> when I try to run winecfg, I get the following message : X Error of failed request:  BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) Major opcode of failed request:  144 (NV-GLX), is there any known bugs with nvidia drivers, I'm using dual-lcd setup, shall I disable GLX ?
[04:57] <smaggard> ugh its the way its calculated im tellin ya.  instead of 1024k pmb its advetised at 1000k
[04:58] <OOD> smaggard: yeah, but that's only harddrive makers, there's no way RAM would cut down from 4 to 3.2 :P
[04:58] <cory> Mem:       3367648     447532    2920116          0      86896     215160
[04:58] <snerge> Mem:   1555040k total
[04:58] <xsacha> i dont think you lose 20% from that conversion though smaggard
[04:58] <smaggard> wow
[04:59] <snerge> you don't, look I got 1.5 gig and it shows like it
[04:59] <smaggard> why are you going from a 64 bit to a 32 anyway?
[04:59] <xsacha> me too with 512
[04:59] <cory> smaggard: because 64bit made things too complicated. I like 32bit because everything kinda just works
[04:59] <Th3_Cr0up13R> can i run anything with wine that would run on a windows machine?
[04:59] <OOD> 64-bit sucks with deb based distros
[04:59] <xsacha> Th3_Cr0up13R: not *everything*, although i havent found anything that doesnt run yet...
[05:00] <xsacha> even photoshop worked and my favourite game (though low fps)
[05:00] <cory> but i want to use all my ram, and i know if i recompile the kernel with a certain option it'll work, just dont know how
[05:00] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i need to make some programs in linux but run them on win
[05:00] <xsacha> Th3_Cr0up13R: you're just going to be using win32 console right?
[05:00] <xsacha> that should work flawlessly
[05:00] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i dont have 2 comps but i cannot split my harddrives and stuff
[05:00] <Th3_Cr0up13R> what do you mean win32 console
[05:01] <Th3_Cr0up13R> ?
[05:01] <xsacha> program you're making is console app?
[05:01] <Th3_Cr0up13R> sorry my english fails me sometimes
[05:01] <smaggard> all you have to do to enable it to see all 4 GB of ram is enable in your kernel the High Memory Support
[05:01] <snerge> Th3_Cr0up13R: you could also run vmware, there is a free version if I remember correctly
[05:01] <xsacha> it doesnt have a GUI, right Th3_Cr0up13R?
[05:01] <Th3_Cr0up13R> could do
[05:01] <Th3_Cr0up13R> ill give it a try
[05:02] <xsacha> well you can always work around it if you have a problem, but it should work flawlessly for console app and i havent had an issue *yet* for gui
[05:02] <Th3_Cr0up13R> this wine thing seems quite quick on my computer and doesnt look to have any problems yet
[05:02] <xsacha> sometimes programs wont exit cleanly in wine
[05:02] <Th3_Cr0up13R> its alright i just need to try it out and see how it works
[05:02] <smaggard> ive heard that the High Memory Support should be changed to 64GB
[05:03] <xsacha> if you accidently run a console app but not inside a konsole -- it will stay running! :S i had 2 console apps running from wine in background when i went to sleep, was eating 50% CPU each
[05:03] <Th3_Cr0up13R> need to get back to my project now, not so much time thanx for the help, ill try and run it on run
[05:03] <Th3_Cr0up13R> thanks again xsacha
[05:04] <smaggard> u still there cory?
[05:06] <smaggard> hm o well
[05:06] <Search4Lancer> alright, I'm trying to burn a cd
[05:06] <smaggard> mhmm
[05:06] <Search4Lancer> but, apparently, "Cdrecord has no permission to open the device"
[05:07] <smaggard> edit your /etc/fstab
[05:07] <Th3_Cr0up13R> how do you call a program that would keep an eye on your files and when one of the files is edited would tell you or log it
[05:07] <Th3_Cr0up13R> you know an access restriction program ? something like that ?
[05:07] <josh_> something is wrong with the keyboard
[05:07] <Kurt> hello, I'm new to forum, but I've been having some problems with Apache2 since upgrading "apt-get dist-upgrade" to edgy.
[05:08] <josh_> the symbols are all different
[05:08] <josh_> how do i do american english keyboard layout
[05:08] <Kurt> I cannot get the system to start apache any more
[05:08] <Search4Lancer> smaggard: well, it said to run k3bsetup2, which I did, but I have no idea what to do with it
[05:08] <Kurt> It will not give me a reason either.
[05:08] <smaggard> do you know how to edit your fstab?
[05:08] <smaggard> kurt try /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[05:08] <Search4Lancer> smaggard: yus, somewhat
[05:09] <Kurt> I've done that and get no error messages. It just says "Fail"
[05:09] <smaggard> ok, well the line that reads /media/cdrom0 needs to have "user" in it
[05:09] <smaggard> without the ""
[05:09] <smaggard> hmm
[05:10] <smaggard> try sudo apt-get install apache
[05:10] <Search4Lancer> smaggard: it has user in it... udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[05:10] <smaggard> hmm
[05:10] <smaggard> thats what mine is too and it works with k3b
[05:11] <smaggard> how did you install k3b?
[05:11] <smaggard> apt-get??
[05:11] <Search4Lancer> I don't recall ever installing k3b, but apparently it's here...
[05:11] <Jucato> k3b is installed by default on Kubuntu
[05:12] <Search4Lancer> there you go
[05:12] <smaggard> hmm
[05:13] <smaggard> ive never had that problem b4
[05:13] <Search4Lancer> k3bsetup2 just changed the permissions on my burner to 666.. let's see if that works...
[05:13] <josh_> can someone help
[05:13] <smaggard> if not try 777 :
[05:13] <smaggard> :D
[05:14] <Search4Lancer> nope, still says it has no permission
[05:14] <josh_> when i try to do a question mark instead its a 
[05:14] <josh_> i think its a foreign keyboard layout
[05:14] <Kurt> apache2 is installed.  I did the apt-get install apache2 --reinstall
[05:14] <josh_> how do i set it to american english
[05:14] <Search4Lancer> smaggard: I would've tried 777 in the first place, but the program wouldn't let me pick and choose, it chose 666 by itself, so that's what I had to go with
[05:14] <smaggard> whats the error.log say?
[05:15] <Search4Lancer> who?
[05:15] <smaggard> kut
[05:15] <smaggard> kurt
[05:16] <Th3_Cr0up13R> dapper what file manager is good ?
[05:16] <Th3_Cr0up13R> what would you suggest to use ?
[05:16] <Jucato> konqueror
[05:16] <Th3_Cr0up13R> what about nautilus
[05:16] <craftycorner> hello?
[05:16] <Kurt> yes?
[05:16] <Th3_Cr0up13R> seems very quick
[05:16] <Jucato> that's on GNOME
[05:16] <xsacha> use konqueror :D
[05:17] <smaggard> so do i, but dolphin is ok
[05:17] <Th3_Cr0up13R> fair enough no arguing
[05:17] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i will xsacha ;)
[05:17] <craftycorner> I have a suggestion.  or prob, one or other.  tried to install Frostwire, but the deb-install was buggy
[05:17] <xsacha> but Th3_Cr0up13R, check out out: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=40491
[05:17] <smaggard> brb grabbing some grub
[05:18] <Th3_Cr0up13R> thats not on adept thought hehehe
[05:19] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i think ill have to install it hehe
[05:19] <xsacha> :P
[05:20] <craftycorner> how do I make suggestion about a program on forums?  it's a good program, has potential, is open source, just need someone 'who knows & cares' to help it into the Kubuntu world
[05:20] <xsacha> Th3_Cr0up13R: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=47956 this is kubuntu edgy version of it
[05:20] <Th3_Cr0up13R> do all these programs on the website you gave me work on dapper ?
[05:20] <xsacha> craftycorner: what program?
[05:20] <craftycorner> frostwire
[05:20] <xsacha> oh :S
[05:20] <craftycorner> www.frostwire.com
[05:20] <xsacha> Th3_Cr0up13R: they'll all work, but some of them might not have binaries, so they'd have to be compiled :S
[05:21] <craftycorner> it might be worth our while
[05:21] <xsacha> craftycorner: try the community link..
[05:21] <xsacha> maybe a post on their forums
[05:21] <craftycorner> url link
[05:21] <craftycorner> please
[05:21] <xsacha> you just wrote it, above
[05:22] <craftycorner> ahh ok
[05:22] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i noticed that most of the kubuntu goes with debian
[05:22] <Th3_Cr0up13R> y is that , does it have any thing to do with debian?
[05:23] <xsacha> yeah ubuntu was based off debian
[05:23] <xsacha> Th3_Cr0up13R: check out filelight as well, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=9887 -- nice graphical display of your harddrives
[05:24] <pingveno> I'm having some difficulties upgrading to Edgy. The x11-common package won't install
[05:24] <pingveno> The forum thread is at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1706151
[05:26] <xsacha> oh and Th3_Cr0up13R, filelight is on adept :)
[05:27] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hahahah
[05:27] <Th3_Cr0up13R> nice one
[05:27] <danny500> when I'm useing edgy, what do I type in to run the graphical mode? When I'm in the nongraphical mode
[05:28] <Th3_Cr0up13R> what about themes what do you do this one i got is getting really boring
[05:28] <xsacha> http://www.kde-look.org
[05:28] <Th3_Cr0up13R> you know the blue and white
[05:28] <OOD> get new ones :)
[05:28] <xsacha> yeah, that's first thing i get rid of Th3_Cr0up13R :)
[05:29] <danny500> how do I run the nautilus when in non graphical mode?
[05:29] <OOD> danny500: you mean in the command line?
[05:29] <danny500> yeah
[05:30] <OOD> you cant run graphical apps without X
[05:30] <danny500> I'm using vmware, running edgy, and I want it to be in the graphical mode but it's running in the command line mode.
[05:30] <xsacha> tty1-6?
[05:31] <danny500> how do I get it to go into graphical mode?
[05:31] <xsacha> this is ubuntu or kubuntu ?
[05:31] <OOD> KDM should start automatically
[05:31] <OOD> you shouldnt be touching the commandline by default
[05:31] <xsacha> if it's kubuntu, just type in "kdm"
[05:31] <pingveno> yummmm, command line
[05:32] <danny500> ok hold on I'll see if it works
[05:32] <danny500> didn't work
[05:32] <danny500> it's ubuntu 6.10
[05:32] <OOD> try gdm
[05:32] <xsacha> oh ubuntu lol
[05:32] <danny500> still nothing
[05:32] <danny500> yeah, ubuntu 6.10
[05:33] <danny500> the new one
[05:33] <OOD> startx?
[05:33] <xsacha> wondering how you got to #kubuntu...
[05:33] <danny500> It's my defalt room
[05:33] <danny500> came with ubuntu lol
[05:33] <xsacha> er.. :S
[05:34] <danny500> yeah
[05:34] <xsacha> sure you're not using kubuntu? :)
[05:34] <danny500> yeah
[05:35] <xsacha> !botsnack | kubuntu
[05:35] <ubotu> kubuntu: Yum!
[05:35] <jujujuju> I am the zing!
[05:35] <ziegen> Can someone help me find codecs for kaffeine
[05:35] <danny500> !botsnack |zing!
[05:35] <ubotu> zing!: Yum!
[05:35] <danny500> lol
[05:36] <OOD> ziegen: get the multiverse repository
[05:36] <OOD> !multiverse
[05:36] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:36] <OOD> !w32
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <OOD> !win32
[05:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:36] <OOD> !w32codecs
[05:36] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:36] <OOD> there :P ^^
[05:36] <danny500> I think there's Kubuntu, ubuntu, and xubuntu
[05:36] <ziegen> thanks
[05:37] <xsacha> edubuntu
[05:37] <danny500> but I don't care about that. I want to know how to switch from command line, to desktop and stuff
[05:37] <danny500> ok
[05:37] <unix_infidel> why not use cli and gui in conjunction.
[05:37] <xsacha> open a konsole to get a command line..
[05:38] <osiris> where does wine install the programs to
[05:38] <Search4Lancer> smaggard: got it, had to run k3b as root
[05:38] <xsacha> osiris: ~/.wine/drive_c or wherever you made it in winecfg
[05:38] <danny500> were ever you tell it to
[05:38] <osiris> i clicked on the exe in konq
[05:38] <xsacha> osiris: run winecfg first
[05:39] <OOD> osiris: you should use wine form terminal
[05:40] <OOD> from*
[05:41] <jujujuju> sudo apt-get remove linux-image-`uname -r`
[05:42] <jujujuju> sudo apt-get install windows-xp
[05:43] <xsacha> sudo apt-get install windows-vista-sp2
[05:43] <max_> can anyone help with getting photoshop to work with wine on edgy?
[05:44] <Crazi> hey guys I have a quick question .. what is teh best linux distribution ... for an old pc .... P2 333MHZ 128 RAM ... 8 years  old .... that can identify most f teh drivers and the most user friends distribution... is xubuntu any good?
[05:44] <xsacha> i think there's a howto somewhere -- same howto works on all distros
[05:44] <inteliwasp> i cant start xmms since upgrading to edgy
[05:45] <Crazi> friendly*
[05:45] <max_> can anyone help with getting photoshop to work with wine on edgy?
[05:46] <xsacha> max_ what problem do you get when installing it?
[05:46] <max_> xsacha: umm, lemme get it into a pastebin
[05:47] <danny500> ok, like I was saying
[05:47] <inteliwasp> i keep getin this error for xmms:  Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
[05:47] <inteliwasp>   serial 2454 error_code 8 request_code 72 minor_code 0
[05:47] <max_> xsacha: http://pastebin.ca/235340
[05:47] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i cannot change it
[05:48] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i read the how to install and change the .kde/share and all this
[05:48] <danny500> If you want to know which mode I want to get out of then click on your desktop, then press the buttons, Ctrl+Alt+F2orF3
[05:48] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i tried install new theme from the display but says not correct file type
[05:48] <xsacha> max_ why do you have run it with explorer?
[05:48] <danny500> I want to get out of that mode
[05:49] <max_> xsacha: i dont, i just think its easier in a Virtual Desktop
[05:49] <xsacha> alt+f7 danny500
[05:49] <xsacha> max_ same errors with just wine Photoshop.exe ?
[05:49] <max_> xsacha: yes
[05:49] <Crazi> hey guys I have a quick question .. what is teh best linux distribution ... for an old pc .... P2 333MHZ 128 RAM ... 8 years  old .... that can identify most f teh drivers and the most user friends distribution... is xubuntu any good?
[05:49] <danny500> oh ok hold on I'll try that, does it work with edgy?
[05:50] <xsacha> danny500: nothing to do with the distro
[05:50] <danny500> o ok
[05:50] <inteliwasp> Crazi:  you might want to try a light weight distro like "damn small linux"
[05:51] <danny500> didn't work
[05:51] <Crazi> inteliwasp is DSL user friendly? and easy to install?
[05:51] <Crazi> or is slackware easier?
[05:51] <xsacha> danny500: is X running? ps -ae | grep X
[05:51] <inteliwasp> Crazi:   i never tried it
[05:51] <xsacha> max_: where is your home C drive?
[05:52] <Crazi> owww .... what about xubuntu .... i saids its light weigh and for older plcs.. has anyone tried it?
[05:52] <inteliwasp> Crazi:  i only have experience with red hat, knoppix, and kubuntu
[05:53] <danny500> when I typed ps -ae | grep X It went to a blank space and did nothing
[05:53] <max_> xsacha: .wine/drive_c/PF(my program files)/Adobe/PS(photo shop)
[05:53] <Crazi> owww .. thx man .. im running kubuntu now ... i like it so far ...
[05:53] <aj_> has anyone installed opera in edgy?
[05:54] <danny500> can you have a graphical OS running in vmware?
[05:54] <xsacha> max_ what wine version?
[05:55] <max_> .0.9.24
[05:55] <xsacha> danny500: yes, but you wont get 3d acceleration
[05:56] <danny500> I don't care. I'm trying to use Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy) but When It loads up it won't go intographical mode
[05:56] <danny500> It won't load up the desktop and stuff, just stays in the command line
[05:57] <xsacha> max_ what is your input device?
[05:57] <aj_> sounds like an X problem yay
[05:58] <max_> xsacha: thats what i didnt understand, i dont know what its talking about, the only input devices i have are keyboard and mouse
[05:58] <xsacha> but how are they connected?
[05:58] <danny500> yeah, yay
[05:59] <danny500> guess I'll try another OS on vmware :(
[05:59] <max_> xsacha: oh,  keyboard is PS2 and Mouse is USB
[06:00] <xsacha> max_ hmm remove those wacom entries from your xorg.conf and see how many errors that clears up.. i think the bottom ones are just from that
[06:00] <osiris> ok.  how can one tell what caused an app in wine to crash, when there doesnt seem to be an error before the porgram exits
[06:00] <xsacha> warnings*
[06:00] <max_> xsacha: will do
[06:01] <xsacha> max_ well you dont need to, but they just clutter up the errors :P the only problem there seems to be the fixme.. actctx:QueryActCtxW
[06:02] <xsacha> what version of photoshop is this?
[06:03] <luca> good night everyone :)
[06:03] <xsacha> 7.0?
[06:03] <luca> can someone help me understand why my ubuntu system goes SLOW?
[06:04] <troy> does anyone know if the koffice 1.6 packages work on amd64 now? (they didn't before edgy was officially released)
[06:05] <xsacha> what was wrong with it before? :S
[06:07] <luca> please, situation is quite severe...today I have switched to windows because I needed a STABLE system... :S
[06:07] <troy> xsacha: there were some dependancy issues, like krita depending on krita-data <1.5.2 and such when 1.6.0 was there
[06:08] <xsacha> oh
[06:08] <troy> xsacha: basically, it just needed the packages rebuild on a fresh chroot methinks
[06:08] <troy> since the x86 packages seems to be alright
[06:09] <billytwowilly> what's the camera software called in kde?
[06:09] <PenguinistaKC> billytwowilly: digikam
[06:09] <billytwowilly> thank you!
[06:09] <troy> hrmm, dep problems appear to be gone (apt not complaining anymore)
[06:09] <troy> this is a good thing (tm)
[06:10] <xsacha> max_: still there?
[06:11] <max_> xsacha: looking for xorg.conf
[06:11] <luca> nobody with any advise about system stability? :)
[06:11] <xsacha> :S nevermind
[06:11] <Jucato>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:11] <xsacha> max_: WINEDEBUG=loaddll wine Photoshop.exe
[06:11] <PenguinistaKC> luca: We need a little more information than "Ubuntu runs slow"
[06:11] <Jucato> also, is it Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[06:12] <max_> xsacha:  tried that earlier didnt work
[06:12] <PenguinistaKC> luca: You might want to create a forum post, explaining what version of ubuntu you are using, what packages other than the standard install you have, and information such as cpu usage and any errors on boot up
[06:12] <xsacha> max_ it should have listed dlls it uses.. ?
[06:12] <max_> Jucato: dont have that
[06:12] <luca> Penguinstack: from where? Kubuntu Edgy, 1,8 ghz cpu, it slows terribly down with simple operations such as opening pdf or text files
[06:12] <Galathalion> is ktorrent good?
[06:13] <PenguinistaKC> luca: What video card do you have installed?
[06:13] <PenguinistaKC> luca: do you notice any disk thrashing, and what does top tell you when you are opening a pdf?
[06:13] <Jucato> luca: also, have you installed or configured anything before this started happening?
[06:13] <luca> Penguinstack: let me check - in any case, it is a Thinkpad R50e
[06:13] <max_> xsacha:  let me get back to the direcrory and ill run that
[06:13] <Jucato> max_: you don't have a /etc/X11 directory?
[06:13] <max_> Jucato: no
[06:13] <xsacha> maybe X11R6
[06:13] <max_> yes
[06:14] <xsacha> oh.. nevermind /etc/X11/xorg.conf should be there
[06:14] <Jucato> oh... that's not right...
[06:14] <max_> it didnt show up adter my upgrade to edgy
[06:14] <xsacha> :O
[06:14] <luca> Jucato: I have tried to get the CPU going to full speed with kpowersave - because, after installation of Kubuntu Edgy it stopped at 1/3 of potency (even when the system indeed risked crashing)
[06:15] <Jucato> oh laptop... :(
[06:15] <luca> Penguinstack: it does tell me nothing
[06:15] <max_> neverminf
[06:15] <max_> d
[06:15] <max_> it was there
[06:15] <max_> but hiddebn
[06:16] <max_> hidden*
[06:16] <luca> Penguinstack: simply, speed becomes unbearable - I have been constrained to enter konsole session ctrl+alt+f1 and stop the user processes manually.
[06:16] <luca> more than once
[06:16] <Jucato> max_: are you searching in Konqueror?
[06:16] <luca> situation is becoming unaffordable :S
[06:16] <Jucato> max_: er nvm...
[06:17] <max_> xsacha: you said get rid of all wacom entries
[06:17] <xsacha> don't need to
[06:17] <max_> xsacha: what do i replace them with?
[06:18] <xsacha> would just clear up the error paste to one line
[06:18] <max_> xsacha: what do i replace wacom with?
[06:18] <xsacha>  i'm more interested in the WINEDEBUG=loaddll
[06:18] <max_> ok, ill go to the photopshop directory and do that
[06:19] <inteliwasp> !purge | inteliwasp
[06:19] <DaSkreech> Crazi: I'd use deli or vector
[06:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about purge - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:19] <luca> right now it seems to go - mah
[06:19] <luca> I just hope it will not start crashing again :(
[06:20] <luca> ah and by the way
[06:20] <luca> kpowersave behaves oddly
[06:20] <max_> xsacha: http://pastebin.ca/235378
[06:21] <luca> after I had installed it, it allowed me to set the cpu frequency
[06:21] <Jucato> luca: I thought Kubuntu had another power management utility already installed by default?
[06:21] <luca> Jucato: which one
[06:21] <luca> ?
[06:21] <xsacha> ghuidance
[06:21] <xsacha> guidance*
[06:21] <Jucato> yeah guidance
[06:21] <DaSkreech> luca: Hiya
[06:21] <luca> uhm no GUI as far as I see
[06:21] <Jucato> it's in System Settings I think
[06:22] <xsacha> !guidance-power-manager
[06:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guidance-power-manager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:22] <osiris> say i came home and my kubuntu box was powered off.  what log file would i look in for a klew as to why
[06:22] <danielw> I installed and compiled the nvidia beta driver but i have to rmmod nvidia before i can start X
[06:22] <luca> where should it be in the settings?
[06:23] <xsacha> max_ L"c:\\windows\\system32\\uxtheme.dll" : builtin -- this appears just before the error.. im wondering if a native uxtheme.dll would fix this error?
[06:23] <danielw> I already removed nvidia packages
[06:23] <levander> Does Canonical not offer commercial support for Kubuntu?
[06:23] <Jucato> levander: it does
[06:23] <max_> so i need the uxtheme.dll?
[06:23] <xsacha> max_ download a native uxtheme.dll for whatever OS you're emulating (win98?) and then put it in system32 folder and then add it as a native in winecfg
[06:24] <Jucato> levander: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/paid
[06:24] <max_> ill DL it, youll have to tell me how to add it, im looking for it now
[06:24] <xsacha> i just told you how to add it :D
[06:25] <luca> umph other problem I personally have is winetools not being able to install iexplorer and pretty much anything else...but that is another story :P
[06:25] <levander> Jucato: that page has a sidebar called "related projects" with a link to kubuntu.org - i don't see where it says that that support program includes kubuntu
[06:25] <xsacha> max_ what theme do you have set in winecfg?
[06:25] <smaggard> hiiii
[06:26] <Jucato> levander: that page tells you where you can get paid support. I believe it covers both Ubuntu and Kubuntu. I'll try to confirm
[06:26] <max_> xsacha: theme?
[06:26] <igi> hi
[06:26] <levander> Jucato: yeah, because i'd like to switch to kde (kubuntu), but without commercial support, i don't see the commercial viability for it
[06:26] <xsacha> max_ it has theme in Desktop Integration (in winecfg)
[06:27] <Jucato> levander: I really think Canonical supports both Ubuntu and Kubuntu, since Canonical also has employed some (or a) Kubuntu developer(s)
[06:27] <binary2k2> levander: as kubuntu is ubuntu, just with KDE isted if GNOME both have commercial support
[06:27] <max_> xsacha: i have no clue what your talking about sorry
[06:27] <xsacha> max_ run winecfg
[06:27] <igi> can somebody tell me why my torrent DLs are much slower under Kubuntu comparing to WinXP?
[06:27] <max_> xsacha: ok, its open, now what
[06:28] <luca> another one with a slowness problem... :P
[06:28] <xsacha> max_ Desktp Integration->Theme
[06:28] <max_> no theme
[06:28] <Jucato> luca: but quite unrelated to yours :)
[06:28] <xsacha> ok good
[06:28] <levander> binary2k2: but, they pull kde out into a separate distribution (kubuntu), they say they support ubuntu, but the ubuntu distribution is based on gnome
[06:28] <luca> Jucato: I know :)
[06:28] <max_> it was set to Win 2000, should i make it Win 98?
[06:28] <xsacha> max_ in Graphics tab, Allow the window manager to manage created windows?
[06:28] <Jucato> levander: Kubuntu is not a separate distribution (KDE is not a distribution at all :P)
[06:28] <xsacha> yeah, try win98
[06:29] <danielw> I installed and compiled the nvidia beta driver but i have to rmmod nvidia before i can start X
[06:29] <danielw> I already removed nvidia packages
[06:29] <luca> Jucato: my problem with Kubuntu is that it seems always to fill my RAM and cpu power
[06:29] <binary2k2> levander: it's not based on gnome, it just used it, if you want you could add KDE to the Ubuntu install by installing kubuntu-desktop
[06:29] <max_> xsacha: checked, and i Dled that .dll
[06:29] <Jucato> levander: confirmed: Canonical supports Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu
[06:29] <luca> Jucato: it has some cycles for the cpu...for a while it stands still, then suddenly fills it all :(
[06:29] <max_> should i put it in the folder?
[06:29] <binary2k2> levander: The only difference between the 2 is the desktop
[06:29] <tito> Some body can showme the sources.list please
[06:29] <xsacha> max_ it was checked before? good
[06:29] <tito> i really need it
[06:29] <luca> Jucato: the 512 mb Ram, instead, are almost always full
[06:29] <levander> binary2k2: what repository is kubuntu-desktop in?  I think they support everything in main and as much as they can in restricted
[06:30] <xsacha> max_ yes put it in the system32 folder and then add it in the libraries tab (in winecfg)
[06:30] <binary2k2> levander: kubuntu-desktop is in main
[06:30] <tito> it doesnt work apt-get install bitchx
[06:30] <levander> binary2k2: oh, great! they definitely support it then
[06:30] <xsacha> max_ type in "ux" and then click the down button and you'll see uxtheme in list :) (no extension)
[06:30] <tito> for a example
[06:30] <Jucato> levander: Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Ubuntu, and Edubuntu all share the same repos. the *-desktop packages are all in main
[06:30] <tito> it doesnt work apt-get install bitchx
[06:30] <Jucato> tito: wiki.kubuntu.org/Jucato
[06:30] <tito> im chilean
[06:30] <Jucato> tito: that has the default sources.list for dapper
[06:31] <levander> ubuntu is even offering commercial support fro xfce?  wow they are supporting a lot
[06:31] <tito> see this error
[06:31] <neoncode> How do I get VLC to always use the "skins2" skin instead of the default?
[06:31] <levander> Jucato: i just commented on something you said
[06:31] <binary2k2> levander: the great thing about ubuntu (and linux in general): You have a choice
[06:31] <DaSkreech> luca: 512 of RAM?
[06:31] <levander> Jucato: how did you confirm it?
[06:31] <tito> jucato speak in private please
[06:31] <tito> here i cant understand you
[06:31] <luca> DaSkreech: exactly. I know they are not that good, but winxp runs fine :(
[06:31] <Jucato> levander: I asked one of the devs. he said the "official" projects are supported
[06:32] <tito> just few minuts
[06:32] <max_> xsacha:ok added it to libararies, now what
[06:32] <luca> DaSkreech: I COULD upgrade in some months
[06:32] <xsacha> max_ put the dll into system32 folder (in wine) ?
[06:32] <tito> some body can help me ??
[06:32] <max_> xsacha: yes
[06:32] <DaSkreech> luca: 512 should be fine
[06:32] <Jucato> tito: I can't speak chilean. and it's better to ask here so that other people can also help. that's how this room works
[06:32] <tito> no
[06:32] <levander> okay, cool, i'm switching to kde - despite all the corporate backing for gnome, kde still won linux journal's favorite desktop
[06:32] <tito> jucato
[06:32] <DaSkreech>  Maybe you could try turning off things you don't need?
[06:32] <xsacha> max_ ok, close winecfg and try photoshop again
[06:32] <tito> english
[06:32] <Jucato> luca: Memory management in Linux is different from XP
[06:32] <tito> english
[06:32] <tito> jocato
[06:33] <levander> in addition to all the other signs i've been seeing, that one is pretty definitive
[06:33] <tito> jucato
[06:33] <tito> i can speak english is just a few questions
[06:33] <tito> when i put apt-get install bitchx
[06:33] <max_> xsacha: same error
[06:33] <luca> DaSkreech: it is not. I need at least music going and fast text editor and browser. Sometimes synaptic open. It is not able to support them now, they always slow down
[06:33] <tito> appears a message that say to me that the pakage is not correct
[06:33] <binary2k2> levander: when you install kubuntu-desktop you'll have a choice at the login screen to which desktop you want to login to
[06:33] <tito> or something like that
[06:34] <binary2k2> levander: you can still use gnome
[06:34] <xsacha> max_ fixme:actctx:QueryActCtxW 80000010 0x116283c (nil) 1?
[06:34] <Jucato> tito: you have to enable "universe" if you haven't
[06:34] <Jucato> !universe | tito
[06:34] <ubotu> tito: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:34] <levander> ohhhh, cool.  i didn't know i didn't have to uninstall gnome
[06:34] <danielw> I installed and compiled the nvidia beta driver but i have to rmmod nvidia before i can start X
[06:34] <levander> that makes it a lot easier....
[06:34] <tito> can i show mi sources.list ??
[06:34] <binary2k2> levander: you can also use all the gnome apps on kde and vice-versa
[06:34] <danielw> I already removed nvidia packages
[06:34] <Jucato> !pastebin | tito
[06:34] <ubotu> tito: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[06:34] <DaSkreech> luca: What uses the most memory in top or Ksysguard ?
[06:34] <Jucato> tito: use that pastebin to show your sources.list
[06:34] <tito> ok
[06:34] <luca> right noew for example: some documents and web pages open, synaptic open and inactive, amarok, konversation.
[06:34] <tito> i will
[06:35] <luca> memory and cpu full o_O
[06:35] <max_> xsacha:fixme:ntdll:NtConnectPort (0x5ad9d73c,L"\\ThemeApiPort",0x33fb08,(nil),(nil),(nil),0x33fac8,0x33fb1c),stub! ---and-- fixme:actctx:QueryActCtxW 80000010 0x116283c (nil) 1 0x33fdc4 8 (nil)
[06:35] <xsacha> luca: synaptic?!
[06:35] <Jucato> luca: is the memory full with Application Data or Disk Cache?
[06:35] <tito> ready
[06:35] <tito> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29962/
[06:36] <luca> Jucato: guide me, I have never been able to read properly the ksysmanager
[06:36] <Jucato> luca: ah I thought it was in KInfoCenter.. sorry :(
[06:36] <tito> could you see it ??
[06:36] <xsacha> max_ :( seems native uxtheme wont work then, can remove it from libraries tab..
[06:36] <luca> btw, more than one minute to launch the ksysmanager
[06:36] <Jucato> tito: yes. reading it
[06:36] <luca> way TOO much :(
[06:37] <xsacha> luca: pentium 1? :P
[06:37] <max_> xsacha: ok, removed it
[06:37] <xsacha> p1 is faster..
[06:37] <luca> 1,8 ghz, intel centrino
[06:37] <xsacha> max_ ok, im not sure what could be causing that error :(
[06:38] <luca> well, this is too much - soffice occupies something like 170 mb of ram
[06:38] <luca> for 4 documents
[06:38] <luca> o_O
[06:38] <xsacha> max_ you could try wintab32.dll ... or ask in #wine
[06:39] <max_> i opened winecfg and clciked on a tab and i got this http://pastebin.ca/235393
[06:39] <max_> dont knwo what it is
[06:39] <Jucato> tito: try to install bitchx using apt-get, then using pastebin, show the error messages
[06:39] <luca> and also, firefox more than 200 mb
[06:39] <Jucato> that's normal (for firefox...)
[06:40] <luca> it is killing my pc nontheless
[06:40] <xsacha> max_ it couldnt find sound.. it's not critical tho
[06:40] <luca> same for ooffice
[06:41] <igi> luca: firefox memory usage can b adjusted in firefox using its chrome
[06:41] <tito> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29963/
[06:41] <xsacha> max_ it seems that queryact error is due to the wacom device in your xorg.conf (as are the ones below it) -- so they can all be ignored..
[06:41] <xsacha> max_ so it seems you aren't getting any actual errors :S
[06:42] <max_> why wont it run then?
[06:42] <xsacha> don't know
[06:42] <tito> jucato i try to traduce the text
[06:42] <tito> understand me a little bit
[06:42] <tito> >P
[06:43] <levander> Is there any user interface to procmail, or is it all modifying configuration files?
[06:43] <tito> jucato
[06:43] <binary2k2> tito: you need to add the universe repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list to install bitchx
[06:43] <Jucato> tito: hold on
[06:43] <tito> okeu
[06:44] <Jucato> tito: did you just change your sources.list a while ago?
[06:44] <DaSkreech> luca: Try using konqueror and koffice?
[06:45] <max_> xsacha: i cant find wintab32.dll
[06:46] <tito> jucato
[06:46] <tito> yes
[06:46] <tito> i changed
[06:46] <tito> a friend gime some ones
[06:46] <tito> and i chang it
[06:47] <tito> jucato this is a sources list of a friend thaat is using ubuntu see it please
[06:47] <tito> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/29964/
[06:48] <Jucato> tito: ok try this. in your sources.list, remove the "ve." from http://ve.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ so that you'll end up with only http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/
[06:48] <Jucato> tito: after you do that, run "sudo apt-get update" then try to install bitchx again
[06:50] <tito> jucato so i erase the sources.list that i have and i paste the repositories that you show me ??
[06:50] <Jucato> tito: no
[06:50] <Jucato> tito: just edit the sources.list and delete all the "ve."
[06:50] <tito> just ve ??
[06:50] <max_> xsacha: i cant find wintab32.dll
[06:51] <Jucato> tito: ve. (include the period)
[06:51] <nickste> I can't see any of my ntfs partitions in edgy (Clean install). I was previously able to in dapper. Any Ideas?
[06:52] <binary2k2> nickste: what is the output of "sudo fdisk -l" ,in a console?
[06:53] <xsacha> max_ it's only needed for tablet pcs (aka the wacom)
[06:53] <draik> Anyone here upgrade from Firefox 1.5 to 2.0 using the !firefox instructions?
[06:53] <max_> oh
[06:53] <Jucato> hi draik!
[06:53] <max_> so you dont know at all what it could do?
[06:53] <luca> system crash :( :( :(
[06:53] <draik> Hey Jucato
[06:53] <max_> what the problem is*
[06:53] <luca> third in two days or so
[06:54] <xsacha> max_ you could try removing wacom.. but generally that is ignored -- it's only for tablet pcs
[06:54] <DaSkreech> luca: are you on Edgy?
[06:54] <luca> DaSkreech: yep
[06:54] <doppelganger_> hey guys, does frostwire not work with edgy
[06:54] <max_> just remove it, so the field would be blank?
[06:54] <DaSkreech> Did you run the hardware Database thingy?
[06:54] <nickste> binary2k2: has all my partitions listed there (incl. this one which I want: /dev/sdb1   *           1       10199    81923436    7  HPFS/NTFS)
[06:54] <doppelganger_> or is there just not a version available for edgy yet?
[06:54] <draik> How do I change the SSL settings for firefox... says they are disabled
[06:55] <doppelganger_> it just keeps saying it can't connect to the server, although it worked fine until my upgrade
[06:55] <binary2k2> nickste: It may just be a matter of adding the correct line to /etc/fstab then
[06:55] <doppelganger_> i've uninstalled/reinstalled more than a few times
[06:56] <max_> xsacha: just remove it, so the field would be blank??
[06:56] <binary2k2> nickste: E.g: /dev/sdb1 /media/windows ntfs defaults,auto
[06:56] <luca> DaSkreech: hardware database?
[06:56] <xsacha> max_ you can remove all those wacom entries and then the parts that link to them
[06:56] <nickste> which file do I need to edit?
[06:56] <DaSkreech> luca: I thnk it's under system
[06:56] <max_> so where it says "wacom" make it say what....... ""?
[06:57] <DaSkreech> it makes a web page with your system specs. I'd be interested in seeing if it's your hardware that is making it so unstable
[06:57] <xsacha> max_ all the sections that have wacom in it.. the input device ones arent needed and then you can remove the lines that reference them
[06:57] <max_> ok
[06:58] <xsacha> or you could just pastebin the xorg.conf and i'll fix it up
[06:58] <luca> I think I am doing it right now
[06:58] <draik> I can't get to my addons for firefox due to SSL protection being disabled. Anyone know what that means and how to fix it?
[06:58] <binary2k2> nickste: edit the file /etc/fstab (as root)
[06:58] <luca> and by the way
[06:58] <luca> I am installing koffice
[06:59] <luca> I will give it a try
[06:59] <binary2k2> nickste: add a line like: "/dev/sdb1 /media/windows ntfs defaults,auto 0 0"
[07:00] <binary2k2> nickste: you need to make sure that the directory /media/windows exists first
[07:00] <nickste> ok
[07:01] <luca> what does koffice have less - more than ooffice?
[07:01] <luca> multiplatform excluded :)
[07:01] <nickste> binary2k2: I've made the dir, and added the line, and added the file...
[07:01] <nickste> *saved the file
[07:01] <nickste> now what?
[07:02] <DaSkreech> memory footprint? :)
[07:02] <binary2k2> nickste: you should be able to see the partition in media:/ and it will mount when the system boots
[07:02] <nickste> nope :(
[07:02] <luca> do you mean less memory consuming? :)
[07:02] <DaSkreech> Yes
[07:02] <nickste> oh, do I have to reboot?
[07:02] <binary2k2> nickste: you can mount it with "sudo mount /media/windows"
[07:03] <binary2k2> nickste: once it's mounted, I'm sure you'll see it then
[07:03] <nickste> binary2k2: [mntent] : warning: no final newline at the end of /etc/fstab
[07:03] <binary2k2> nickste: ahh, you need to add a new line to the end of /etc/fstab
[07:03] <binary2k2> nickste: just a blank line
[07:04] <nickste> aha :) Working!
[07:04] <nickste> Thanks very much!
[07:04] <luca> It does not visualize properly the images O_o
[07:04] <binary2k2> nickste: no problem :D
[07:04] <luca> I had used some jpgs on the file I am watching right now, and it is not able to visualize them
[07:04] <nickste> at last, some music in kubuntu!
[07:04] <DaSkreech> Hmm strange
[07:05] <luca> REALLY annoying, also because it is homework
[07:05] <DaSkreech> luca: are they saved as .doc?
[07:05] <max_> xsacha: i removed it, tried to run photosop and got this http://pastebin.ca/235413
[07:06] <luca> DaSkreech: uhm yes, saved as .doc in ooffice under windows
[07:06] <DaSkreech> Ok
[07:06] <xsacha> max_ dont run it as root?
[07:07] <levander> what's the usual kde mail client?
[07:07] <luca> no wait
[07:07] <xsacha> KMail levander
[07:07] <luca> they are odt actually
[07:07] <max_> oh sorry, had to be in root to edit the document
[07:07] <levander> anybody know if it has a sieve plugin?
[07:07] <max_> how do i get out of root? besides closing konsole
[07:07] <xsacha> max_ after editing xorg.conf you'd need to restart X for changes to work anyway
[07:07] <luca> and ooffice is able to see them
[07:07] <max_> oh,
[07:07] <luca> :((
[07:08] <max_> so do a restart?
[07:08] <xsacha> max_ if you stuffed something up.. well.. did you make a backup of xorg.conf ?
[07:08] <Jucato> restart of X
[07:08] <max_> yes
[07:08] <xsacha> ok good, yeah just restart X
[07:08] <max_> how do i do that?
[07:08] <sebastian222> hello. Please I need some help with Kaffeine
[07:08] <sebastian222> i can't open it
[07:08] <Jucato> Ctrl+Alt+Backspace restarts X
[07:08] <max_> oh ok, i didnt know that wa what that was
[07:08] <max_> what*
[07:08] <max_> ok, brb
[07:09] <sebastian222> help me please
[07:10] <sebastian222> hello?
[07:10] <sebastian222> please i need help
[07:10] <manchicken> With what?
[07:10] <sebastian222> Kaffeine
[07:10] <manchicken> Anybody know how to set up RoR?
[07:10] <manchicken> What about it?
[07:10] <sebastian222> it won't open
[07:10] <luca> alt+f2 kaffeine
[07:10] <luca> as first
[07:10] <sebastian222> i already reinstall it and it doesnt work
[07:11] <Jucato> sebastian222: try starting it from the command line. in Konsole, type "kaffeine" (without the quotes)
[07:11] <sebastian222> doesn't work
[07:11] <Jucato> sebastian222: do you get error messages?
[07:11] <DaSkreech> !doesnt work
[07:11] <sebastian222> it shows like loading and then nothing
[07:11] <sebastian222> no error msg
[07:12] <Jucato> sebastian222: did you do/change something before this happened
[07:12] <sebastian222> nothing
[07:12] <Jucato> hmmm
[07:12] <sebastian222> i use it yesterday but today it wont open
[07:12] <max_> ok, back....now try to run photoshop again?
[07:12] <xsacha> yes
[07:12] <sebastian222> i didn't change anything
[07:13] <mattg> i just installed ubuntu 6.10 on my other pc and the add/remove tool complains when i try to install an application. it says:  Konversation cannot be installed on your computer i386 Either the application requires special hardware features or the vendor decided to not support your computer type.   It says this on every application i try to install
[07:13] <xsacha> mattg: Adept or Add/Remove?
[07:13] <mattg> Add/Remove
[07:13] <Jucato> sebastian222: ok, try this. go to ~/.kde/share/config and delete kaffeinerc and go to ~/.kde/share/apps and delete the kaffeine folder. logout then log in again.
[07:14] <max_> xsacha: same errpr
[07:14] <sebastian222> oh thx man
[07:14] <xsacha> max_ then those wacom must still be there :S
[07:14] <xsacha> paste xorg.conf?
[07:14] <max_> i got rid of them all though
[07:14] <luca> DaSkreech: file editing with Kword is HORRIBLE
[07:14] <luca> at least for images
[07:15] <max_> xsacha: nah im goin to sleep, thanks for the help though xsacha
[07:15] <Jucato> mattg: Konversation should already be installed by default though. are you on a 64-bit system?
[07:15] <xsacha> :( ok
[07:15] <osiris> !restricted formats > osiris
[07:15] <xsacha> Jucato: i think he's using Ubuntu :S it comes default on 64-bit and 32-bit kubuntu
[07:15] <Jucato> ah yeah... sorry
[07:15] <Jucato> :P
 Konversation was just an example. It says that with anything i try to install
[07:17] <xsacha> mattg: Adept works though?
[07:17] <Jucato> xsacha: you yourself said he's on Ubuntu :)
[07:17] <mattg> wheres Adept?
[07:17] <xsacha> oh.. Synaptic?
[07:18] <xsacha> System menu mattg
[07:18] <sebastian222> Kaffeine still doesnt work
[07:19] <Jucato> sebastian222: "sudo apt-get remove --purge kaffeine" then reinstall it. that should get rid of the config files
[07:19] <Jucato> other than that, I'm clueless as well...
[07:19] <draik> Jucato, I fixed the firefox issue
[07:19] <luca> no wait Jucato
[07:19] <mattg> synaptic is working, but wont let me search for what i want
[07:19] <Jucato> draik: nice! :)
[07:19] <xsacha> mattg: fetch updates?
[07:19] <draik> yup
[07:19] <luca> he will want to delete the .kaffeine folder too
[07:20] <Jucato> oh there's a .kaffeine folder?
[07:20] <luca> mattg: do it on the console
[07:20] <luca> erm...yes?
[07:20] <luca> in the home folder
[07:20] <xsacha> i dont have one :S
[07:20] <sebastian222> Jucato: found a solution! it was running hide in background even after the restarts
[07:20] <Jucato>  luca you mean ~/.kde/share/apps/kaffeine ?
[07:20] <luca> do a 'view hidden folders' in the home folder...
[07:20] <luca> Jucato: oh yes
[07:20] <xsacha> ls -a | grep kaff says zilcho in home folder
[07:20] <Jucato> sebastian222: lol! that simple? hehehe
[07:20] <luca> I did not check, I just was saying in general
[07:20] <Jucato> luca: I already said that )
[07:21] <Jucato> :)
[07:21] <sebastian222> pretty simple, and weird i must say
[07:21] <sebastian222> thx for the help man
[07:21] <luca> Jucato sorry :)
[07:21] <Jucato> sebastian222: rawr! next time, I'll remember to ask if it's running in KSysGuard first :)
[07:22] <sebastian222> lol
[07:22] <sebastian222> Jucato: BTW do you know any program like thunderbird but for kde, not for mail just the organizer thing
[07:23] <Jucato> Kontact
[07:23] <sebastian222> nice
[07:23] <Jucato> Kontact integrates KMail, KOrganizer, Akregator, KNotes, and some other stuff
[07:23] <sebastian222> didn't realized that
[07:23] <sebastian222> it looks good
[07:24] <sebastian222> Thanks again. You've been pretty helpful
[07:25] <mattg> apt-get install isn't even working
[07:25] <Jucato> mattg: what erros do you get using apt-get?
[07:26] <mattg> E: couldn't find package lame
[07:26] <mattg> i install lame the other day using apt-get install lame on my other pc and that worked
[07:26] <Jucato> mattg: do you have your repositories enabled in  your sources.list?
[07:26] <xsacha> try sudo apt-get update
[07:27] <luca> ok, editing images in kword is KILLING me
[07:28] <luca> isn't there any way to make ooffice less system-disruptive?
[07:28] <mattg> it was pointing to nz.archive.ubuntu.com because that one wasn't working so i changed the nz to us
[07:29] <Jucato> mattg: but are they enabled? (no "#" at the beginning of the line)
[07:30] <mattg> I have four uncommented lines in that file,
[07:31] <Jucato> mattg: lame is in the multiverse repo, so make sure that it's added and enabled
[07:31] <mattg> ok, so ifound the ones to do now. Is it the universe repository?
[07:31] <luca> same for firefox
[07:31] <Jucato> !multiverse | mattg
[07:31] <ubotu> mattg: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:31] <luca> they are really good, I do not want to renounce to them :(
[07:32] <Ademan> is smb reliable? ie does it do error checking? and will it let me know if something screws up? I want to back up my home folder onto a network drive then re-install ubuntu, any possibility of the home folder backup failing?
[07:32] <mattg> ok should i leave universe commented out
[07:33] <Jucato> mattg: better enable it. since you'll be putting "multiverse" on the same line anyway
[07:34] <Zaire> well there doesn't seem to be anyone on in the #ubuntu-xgl channel :S
[07:34] <lawrence> what is the best laptop for running linux?
[07:34] <Jucato> Zaire: maybe they all gave up on it :P
[07:35] <Ademan> Zaire: just don't use Xgl...
[07:35] <Ademan> Xgl is a fugly hack
[07:35] <Zaire> I want to though
[07:35] <Zaire> ummm actually stats say its way better then aeroglass
[07:35] <Ademan> just wait for AIGLX support, AIGLX is the "accepted" way of doing it
[07:35] <xsacha> Zaire: #ubuntu-glx
[07:35] <Jucato> at least, more accepted by X.org
[07:35] <Jucato> xsacha: there is such a channel?
[07:35] <xsacha> what cards dont have aiglx support yet?
[07:35] <Zaire> ummm no really
[07:36] <xsacha> oops, wrong channel
[07:36] <Jucato> nvidia I think...
[07:36] <Zaire> Im in that channel already
[07:36] <xsacha> nvidia has nvidia drivers they dont need aiglx or xgl
[07:36] <Ademan> and considering X.org isn't publicly traded... *cough* novell *cough* i trust it more
[07:36] <Jucato> xsacha: but for beryl?
[07:36] <xsacha> yes
[07:36] <Jucato> Ademan: Qt is publicly traded :)
[07:36] <mattg> Well the good news now is that the Add/Remove tool is now co-operating? thank you all.
[07:36] <Ademan> which is why i don't use it
[07:37] <Ademan> that and the shitty licensing...
[07:37] <xsacha> nvidia doesnt need aiglx OR xgl :)
[07:37] <Jucato> so I presume you don't use KDE?
[07:37] <Ademan> i put up with Gtk+ becakse of that
[07:37] <Ademan> Jucato: not this computer, my other one though
[07:37] <Jucato> ah...
[07:37] <Zaire> gnome sucks lol
[07:37] <Zaire> even linus torvalds says use linux
[07:37] <xsacha> LOL
[07:37] <Ademan> AIGLX is accelerated indirect rendering which is a technique not just the project that brought it about
[07:37] <Jucato> ok no wars here
[07:37] <xsacha> you mean kde
[07:37] <Zaire> rather KDE
[07:37] <Jucato> !language
[07:37] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:38] <Zaire> yea Im doing a million things at ones
[07:38] <Zaire> once*
[07:38] <osiris> !java > osiris
[07:38] <Ademan> i'm seriously tired of distro/de flame wars
[07:38] <Ademan> i use KDE on one computer GNOME on the other, so what?
[07:38] <Ademan> i don't like Qt's licensing so i don't personally code in it
[07:38] <xsacha> xfce+beryl ftw
[07:38] <Ademan> who really cares?
[07:38] <Zaire> kde is just better in my opinion lol
[07:39] <Zaire> to each their own though
[07:39] <Ademan> exactly
[07:39] <Ademan> but anyways, #ubuntu is being totally useless, does smb provide error checking?
[07:39] <Ademan> i wanna back up my home folder to a network drive and then reinstall edgy
[07:40] <Ademan> but i don't wanna find out "hey half my files are corrupted"
[07:41] <xsacha> tab completion is just too awesome (in konsole)
[07:41] <Zaire> so anyone in here qualified to help me get XGL fully setup?
[07:41] <Jucato> xsacha: you'll discover that tab completion works on package names as well (apt-get/aptitude)
[07:42] <xsacha> yep yep.. folder names, just regular command
[07:42] <xsacha> gives you a list of possibilities..
[07:42] <Zaire> Ive followed all of the necessary steps in this help so far https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BerylOnEdgy#head-b9843696e5a3946c5a010759c00b3a6d40e0b0e6
[07:42] <xsacha> Zaire: if you use aiglx, you only need to install beryl+emerald and then type in "beryl-manager"
[07:42] <xsacha> from a clean install
[07:43] <Zaire> I think thats what that help is
[07:44] <xsacha> yeah Zaire, the one you linked isnt about XGL?
[07:44] <Zaire> k thats different
[07:44] <xsacha> so that wont help you setup xgl
[07:46] <xsacha> it's for aiglx
[07:47] <untung> hello
[07:48] <untung> have anybody install ubuntu and suselinux on one hard drive?
[07:48] <unix_infidel> untung: yea, its quite easy.
[07:48] <unix_infidel> and very well documented, do a quick google and you'll find some decent tutorials.
[07:49] <Jucato> of course as lont as they're on different partitions :)
[07:49] <Jucato> s/lont/long
[07:50] <osiris> can the same sources.list be used for kubuntu 6.06 and ubuntu server 6.06 ?
[07:50] <unix_infidel> i'd recommend just using a virtual machine. its much easier if its just to play around with.
[07:50] <untung> unix_infidel  will suse overide the grub boot manager?
[07:51] <unix_infidel> untung: it'll do what you want it to do.
[07:51] <Jucato> untung: only if you say so
[07:51] <unix_infidel> untung: like i said, google for a good 5 minutes, youll get a bunch of results.
[07:51] <unix_infidel> its a fairly simple process, but i'd still recommend setting up a virtual machine.
[07:51] <Jucato> however, if you choose to keep Ubuntu's GRUB, you have to manually configure it to include entries for SUSE
[07:52] <untung> unix_infidel: will search it in google
[07:53] <untung> unix_infidel: what virtual machine run on ubuntu
[07:53] <Zaire> ok XGL seems to be kinda working minus I don't have the ability to minimize windows
[07:53] <xsacha> i avoid all problems by just overwriting with a good conf file of lilo after an install :D
[07:54] <unix_infidel> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_machine
[07:54] <Jucato> VMWare, Qemu (not sure about Xen)
[07:54] <unix_infidel> untung: maybe that'll explain something more abstractly for you.
[07:54] <unix_infidel> Jucato: xen can do everything :P
[07:54] <Jucato> er.. VMWare is virtualization, Qemu is emulation... gotta remember that...
[07:54] <Jucato> unix_infidel: well haven't tried it yet. if they have a repo for Ubuntu, I'm willing to try :)
[07:54] <xsacha> and wine is not an emulator...
[07:55] <xsacha> geez so confusing :P
[07:55] <Jucato> xsacha: hahah
[07:55] <xsacha> win emulator
[07:57] <roycebarber> Has anyone successfully ran SecondLife??
[07:58] <Zaire> ok you know how with normal kdm you have your menu at the top of windows then the bar with minimize and stuff...well XGL isn't giving me that
[07:59] <manchicken> Anybody set up rails with apache in kubuntu?
[07:59] <unix_infidel> !ROR
[07:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ROR - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:59] <xsacha> Zaire: is this with beryl on?
[08:00] <Zaire> yeps
[08:00] <xsacha> run "emerald"
[08:01] <xsacha> emerald is the window decorator required for borders and menu up top
[08:01] <Zaire> I have it but its like it doesn't want to let me switch themes
[08:04] <xsacha> !skype 64-bit
[08:04] <xsacha> 32-bit skype should work fine on amd64 kubuntu right?
[08:04] <Zaire> nope
[08:04] <xsacha> :O?
[08:04] <Zaire> Ive tried
[08:04] <Zaire> won't install
[08:05] <xsacha> dpkg -i --force-architecture skype_debian-1.3.0.53-1_i386.deb ?
[08:07] <DaSkreech> How Do I find in a PDF?
[08:07] <xsacha> ctrl+f ?
[08:08] <xsacha> Zaire: Setting up skype (1.3.0.53-1) ...  -- it installed fine.. just wondering how it will run
[08:08] <Zaire> dunno
[08:08] <Zaire> I gave up on using it in 64 bit
[08:08] <Abst> How do I select an XScreenSaver?
[08:08] <xsacha> just gotta sort out this: libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:08] <xsacha> why you give up on 64-bit ? :S
[08:08] <DaSkreech> xsacha: You'd think huh?
[08:09] <xsacha> DaSkreech: what program are you using for PDFs?
[08:09] <DaSkreech> Kghostview?
[08:09] <Zaire> didn't think it was possible to use skype in it and didn't feel like messing with it at the time
[08:09] <Abst> How do you change your ScreenSaver settings
[08:09] <Jucato> how about KPDF?
[08:10] <Zaire> so how do you apply themes with emerald?
[08:10] <Jucato> Abst: if you installed xscreensaver, it has it's own control module separate from KDE's screensaver settings
[08:10] <xsacha> emerald-themes
[08:10] <Jucato> I think you run that configuration module with something like xscreensaver-xxxxxxx
[08:10] <eilker> hi, instead of rebooting, what commanda can be given from conssole ? kdm etc. ??
[08:10] <Jucato> eilker: what are you trying to do?
[08:10] <xsacha> Zaire: by default it will be using a theme, if it appears without borders, there is another issue -- something preventing this
[08:11] <Jucato> to stop KDE, you can "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop" to reboot, "sudo shutdown -R now"
[08:11] <Zaire> hmmm how's that fixed
[08:11] <DaSkreech> luca: Sorry whats going on?
[08:11] <eilker> jucato: to restart kde ?
[08:11] <xsacha> there's a few issues that could cause that.. first off -- try configure desktop->turn desktop icons on?
[08:12] <Jucato> eilker: you can just restart X to restart KDE. or "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart"
[08:13] <eilker> jucato:thanx...
[08:14] <xsacha> Zaire: skype works :) just needed to put 32-bit qt library in /usr/lib32
[08:14] <Zaire> I can't see anything that says turn desktop icons on
[08:14] <xsacha> in Behaviour
[08:15] <Zaire> nope nothing in there
[08:16] <xsacha> Desktop->Behaviour->General->Show icons on desktop
[08:16] <eilker> jucato: "sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart" when i give this command mysql-server stops and restarts again ?
[08:16] <Zaire> its already on
[08:16] <xsacha> try turn it off then on?
[08:16] <Jucato> eilker: that I wouldn't know
[08:16] <Zaire> nope
[08:16] <eilker> !kdm >eilker
[08:17] <eilker> !gdm >eilker
[08:17] <xsacha> Zaire: ati or nvidia?
[08:17] <Zaire> nvidia 6100 256 meg onboard
[08:17] <xsacha> ok you need this option in xorg.conf ..
[08:18] <xsacha> Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"
[08:18] <xsacha> it should be in Device section (but it depends on driver version)
[08:19] <Zaire> it said to put that in the screen section in the help :S
[08:19] <xsacha> yeah different driver version uses screen
[08:19] <xsacha> to check if it worked in screen:
[08:19] <xsacha> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep AddARGB
[08:20] <xsacha> if it says the option is not used, you'll need to put it in device section..
[08:20] <Abst> How do you install a new style
[08:20] <Zaire> foxfire@foxfire-desktop:/etc/X11$ cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep AddARGB
[08:20] <Zaire> (**) NVIDIA(0): Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "true"
[08:22] <xsacha> what does: xdpyinfo | grep ARGB say?
[08:23] <xsacha> or glxinfo | grep ARGB
[08:24] <Zaire> didn't give me anything
[08:26] <xsacha> try set | grep ARGB
[08:27] <xsacha> does it show XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 ?
[08:27] <Zaire> seemed to do nothing just dropped down a line
[08:28] <xsacha> hmm
[08:28] <xsacha> not sure if it's on or not
[08:29] <xsacha> seems like it isn't..
[08:30] <Zaire> well thats just it though its behaving like XGL just missing the top bars on the windows
[08:31] <xsacha> Zaire: but you're not using XGL?
[08:32] <Zaire> well it seems to be just kinda incomplete
[08:32] <xsacha> are you using aiglx/XGL or nvidia drivers now? :S
[08:33] <Zaire> Im not 100% on that at the moment :S
[08:33] <xsacha> cause that howto you were using was for aiglx, but you keep saying xgl
[08:34] <Zaire> well then AIGLX
[08:34] <Zaire> thats the help I followed anyway
[08:34] <xsacha> cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep AIGLX ?
[08:35] <Zaire> ok that didn't show me anything :S
[08:35] <xsacha> ok, so you're not using aiglx..
[08:35] <xsacha> ps -ae | grep X
[08:35] <Zaire> well thats odd
[08:36] <Zaire>  4098 tty7     00:01:20 Xorg
[08:36] <xsacha> you're not in xgl either
[08:36] <xsacha> is beryl working?
[08:36] <Zaire> good question
[08:36] <xsacha> can you alt+drag a window and it wobbles?
[08:37] <Zaire> yep
[08:37] <Zaire> rotating desktop
[08:37] <xsacha> must be using nvidia drivers, hmm
[08:38] <Zaire> interesting lol
[08:38] <xsacha> i dont know anything about the new nvidia drivers..
[08:40] <KDEfanboy> anyone have amarok with xine->esd output know what packages are necessary to make it work?
[08:43] <Endler> So, Jucato, what IS Kubuntu's policy on interim bugfix package releases?
[08:43] <Jucato> Endler: not really sure. I'll ask around and tell you if I come up with anything
[08:43] <shantanu_> my adsl connection is stable on windows but keeps dropping on linux
[08:44] <shantanu_> "(
[08:44] <Mehercle> hi
[08:44] <Jucato> Endler: but I guess it depends if the bug fixes will be put in a KDE 3.5.6 release or not
[08:44] <Mehercle> i need a program to rip dvd's >> ogg theora
[08:44] <Mehercle> with a gui
[08:44] <shantanu_> anyone?
[08:44] <Jucato> Endler: there are chances that it might go into edgy-updates and/or edgy-security
[08:45] <Endler> Well, I have a feeling 3.5.6 is a long ways off as more and more effort  gets redirected towards 4.0
[08:45] <Jucato> Endler: then they might go into -updates
[08:46] <shantanu_> my adsl connection is stable on windows but keeps dropping on linux
[08:46] <Endler> Well, the bug I'm talking about is so severe that regular Debian had block on Kmail until the bug was fixed.
[08:46] <shantanu_> anyone?
[08:46] <shantanu_> "(
[08:46] <Jucato> sorry shantanu_, I have no idea about it
[08:46] <shantanu_> :/
[08:47] <xsacha> Bareword "ls" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1. any ideas?
[08:47] <[cf] nightrid3r> i need a program to rip dvd's to divx with a gui
[08:47] <fignew> shantanu_: is there an error?
[08:48] <fignew> check the command dmesg
[08:48] <Zaire> weeee spinny desktop lol
[08:48] <DaSkreech> Gnight!
[08:49] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Testing KDE4 Part Duex?
[08:49] <Jucato> DaSkreech: um nope. :)
[08:49] <Jucato> no reason to... at least not yet
[08:49] <shantanu_> i can see the link button flickering on the modem
[08:49] <shantanu_> button=led
[08:49] <DaSkreech> What's in it
[08:50] <DaSkreech> I read the release annuncement but it wasn't very verbose other than Don't try ti if you aren't brave and Code more KDE4 apps
[08:50] <xsacha> afaik not much visual put into kde4 yet
[08:50] <Jucato> DaSkreech: well, that basically it :)
[08:51] <Jucato> just more code changes, and being able to run a KDE 4 full session, I think
[08:51] <DaSkreech> Nope I wouldn't expect much till the last spit and shine section
[08:51] <DaSkreech> I'm still vexed about Tenor not being in there
[08:51] <Jucato> DaSkreech: Strigi might replace it
[08:51] <DaSkreech> No Strigi might be a backend for fast search
[08:51] <DaSkreech>  I don't know about it being contextual
[08:52] <Jucato> http://www.vandenoever.info/software/strigi/
[08:52] <xsacha> apparently, there is a prototype of this: http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/36658-1.jpg in the latest svn trunk for KDE4
[08:53] <DaSkreech> xsacha: What's the 1950's shadow effect supposed to be?
[08:53] <xsacha> which shadow effect?
[08:55] <DaSkreech> The leaf
[08:56] <xsacha> mm i dun care about the shadow :P
[08:57] <DaSkreech> Oh so whats' so exciting about it then?
[08:57] <xsacha> lol you were looking at the shadow
[08:57] <Jucato> hahah
[08:57] <Jucato> it's an example of strigi methinks?
[08:58] <DaSkreech> I fail to see that
[08:59] <xsacha> you dont see the image being dragged from conqeuror into contact menu showing a menu of actions?
[08:59] <DaSkreech> Right the shadowy thing
[08:59] <xsacha> shadow?
[08:59] <DaSkreech> The 1950's shaodw effect
[08:59] <xsacha> oh you mean the drag effect?
[09:00] <DaSkreech>  Like Millon dollar man running
[09:00] <DaSkreech> Yeah :-P
[09:00] <xsacha> i think that's just to show where it came from.. don't think that's actually in it -- dont know
[09:00] <xsacha> it's just showing the drag to contacts menu from konqueror
[09:01] <DaSkreech> Nice concept though
[09:02] <Jucato> that's why I don't rely on screenshots to actually
[09:02] <Jucato> er.. to actually "see" functionality
[09:03] <DaSkreech> Well I'm talking about the strange create Communicate configure menus
[09:03] <yahalom> hey guys can someone tell me what the repos for edgy are?
[09:03] <yahalom> or where i can find them?
[09:03] <DaSkreech> !edgy
[09:03] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[09:04] <Jucato> yahalom: if you're on Dapper, just change all "dapper" into "edgy" (at least for the official Ubuntu repos)
[09:04] <Jucato> yahalom: are you trying to upgrade?
[09:05] <yahalom> Jucato, yes but i get an error, i think its because i used the ubuntuguide.org ones, can u show me yours?
[09:05] <Jucato> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Jucato
[09:07] <yahalom> Jucato, thanx man
[09:08] <Zaire> I think I figured out my problem...I never activated my nvidia drivers
[09:09] <yahalom> Jucato, it kind of stays on 0% waiting for headers, is this cos there a lot of downloading?
[09:09] <Jucato> yahalom: could be. or maybe a problem with your connection or routing... not really sure
[09:09] <Jucato> did you just copy the sources.list that I had?
[09:10] <yahalom> Jucato, yes
[09:10] <yahalom> well my connections are fine
[09:11] <Jucato> yahalom: maybe you should try changing to your local servers? adding us. or uk. etc
[09:12] <yahalom> k thanx
[09:14] <DaSkreech> Night!!!
[09:15] <Jucato> Day!!
[09:15] <BderenorCaine> hi
[09:23] <BderenorCaine> Anyone here not idling who might be willing to help me with some problems with the 6.10 release ?
[09:25] <BderenorCaine> Anyone?
[09:26] <Endler> I'm here, but I've only had Kubuntu on my notebook for a couple days and I'm on my Desktop right now.
[09:26] <Jucato> try asking your question.  if someone knows, they might answer :)
[09:26] <BderenorCaine> HA! i don't even know where to begin, but oh well - i'll try ;)
[09:27] <BderenorCaine> nope
[09:27] <BderenorCaine> sound
[09:27] <Endler> run alsaconfig, lol
[09:27] <Jucato> ah...
[09:27] <BderenorCaine> not exactly...
[09:28] <Endler> Well, that's usually the right answer :)
[09:28] <BderenorCaine> since the new release the dsp and dsp1 devices are assigned to my devices randomly at boot, rendering my configuration of arts useless about 50% of the time...
[09:28] <BderenorCaine> and thats just the start
[09:29] <Endler> Sounds like a udev problem
[09:30] <BderenorCaine> i thought so too
[09:30] <BderenorCaine> but i don't really have that much experience with udev
[09:31] <Endler> You should be able to hardcode the drivers before udev does it's thing.
[09:31] <Endler> Not  sure where in the file system you'd do that in Kubuntu though
[09:32] <BderenorCaine> hm
[09:32] <duck_> hi I'd like to know if it is possible to download a kubuntu alternative cd (w/out live desktop; including only console installation)
[09:32] <duck_> the live-cd runs too slowly for everyone I give it too
[09:32] <BderenorCaine> Jucato, since this has nothing to do with wireless or printers, what are your thoughts on this one?
[09:32] <Endler> Yes, they have that.
[09:33] <Jucato> my thoughts ran away.... I'm not very good with hard stuff
[09:33] <Jucato> er... hardware stuff
[09:33] <duck_> Endler: is it on the main kubuntu downloads page? I can't find it.
[09:33] <Jucato> duck_: it's called the Alternate Install CD
[09:33] <dude_> jucato!
[09:33] <Jucato> the Desktop (Live) CD requires a bit more RAM to run, because it runs a full desktop in your RAM
[09:34] <Jucato> hi dude_! :)
[09:34] <duck_> Jucato: I see it there for dapper, but I'm looking for edgy's
[09:34] <BderenorCaine> don't. it'll juggle with your soundcards
[09:34] <duck_> Jucato: I think I found it
[09:34] <Jucato> :P
[09:34] <Endler> I don't think your problem is that big of one, I just don't happen to know the answer offhand.  I'm about 99% sure someone on the forum would be able to give simple instructions on how to manually assign drivers to devices.
[09:35] <BderenorCaine> okay
[09:35] <BderenorCaine> i'll try the forum then
[09:35] <duck_> I'm downloading it: oh yeah!
[09:36] <Endler> There are probably several sleeping people in here who could help you too :)
[09:36] <duck_> edgy is so good. I installed it for my mom and sister who had no prior linux experience and they are very satisfied
[09:36] <duck_> they have dual-boot option, but they actually prefer ubuntu
[09:36] <B-Minus> does anyone know any fun multiplayer games i could play on my laptop ?
[09:36] <BderenorCaine> wesnoth
[09:36] <B-Minus> i have openttd and armagetron
[09:36] <B-Minus> they are good
[09:36] <BderenorCaine> if your'e into strategy
[09:36] <B-Minus> wesnoth ?
[09:36] <Endler> Every windows user I've changed over to a KDE desktop setup has been pleased with it too :)
[09:37] <B-Minus> is that a good game
[09:37] <duck_> install truecombatelite
[09:37] <duck_> it is a great fps multiplayer game
[09:37] <BderenorCaine> again, if youre into strategy and don't worry about graphics that much, wenoth is the best choice i think
[09:37] <duck_> also bzflag is surprisingly fun
[09:37] <Endler> It's very easy for Windows users to transition to.  Esp if you install FF and Thunderbird and they've already been using that on Windows.
[09:37] <Endler> They hardly notice the change.
[09:37] <B-Minus> duck_: i have a laptop it doesnt have a 3D card :p
[09:37] <B-Minus> only intel 950
[09:38] <BderenorCaine> however, i also have problems with arts. amarok-arts doesn't work (i Can press the play button, but it doesn't do anything). also, the arts output module of xmms makes it crash
[09:38] <duck_> B-Minus: my mom and sisters laptop has the same thing going on
[09:38] <duck_> B-Minus: ubuntu still runs much faster than windows, but I'm not sure if thats because of the windows mal-ware or what
[09:38] <B-Minus> duck_: and they can play bzflag ?
[09:39] <duck_> duck: no, I hadn't tried that. But isn't there ubvuntu documentation for getting 3d out of the intel 950?
[09:39] <duck_> duck: I'm sure I came across that somewhere; -there is official documentation for it
[09:40] <B-Minus> yes i can play 3D stuff
[09:40] <B-Minus> but its not that fast
[09:40] <Endler> It sure is nice not to have 75 differnet anti-viral, anti-trojan, and anti-spyware programs running in the background.
[09:40] <Endler> That alone speeds things up :)
[09:41] <Endler> And eventually they all end up getting tagged with something sooner or later anyway.
[09:41] <duck_> B-Minus: I think truecomabt would not work well, but bzflag would be fine for you
[09:41] <duck_> it'll run with very minimal graphics
[09:41] <B-Minus> ok ill give it a shit
[09:41] <B-Minus> shot
[09:41] <B-Minus> :p
[09:42] <amichai> guy this isnt working. i can connect to the repos to do an update, just when it downloads headers it remains stuck at 0%
[09:42] <B-Minus> maybe i can also try xmame ?
[09:42] <B-Minus> those games are also fun ?
[09:42] <amichai> when i upgrade to dapper earlier it worked, so it really seems to be something with the repos, any ideas?
[09:42] <amichai> do they need a key?
[09:42] <Endler> I only have 256MB RAM on my Notebook, so I wasn't expecting KDE to run well, but was pleasantly surprised.
[09:42] <duck_> Endler: I don't know how windows user can stand it. My friend actually said that it was fun to scan for and find all of the virus' on his computer. He would do it every day and his laptop was very slow from all of the malware
[09:43] <duck_> :)
[09:43] <Endler> Kubuntu is running fine on my NB.
[09:43] <B-Minus> my kubuntu boots up in 30 seconds :)
[09:43] <Endler> I can do without that kind of "fun."  :)
[09:43] <jsgotangco> Endler: 256 is pretty fine really
[09:43] <B-Minus> and i even havent tweaked it
[09:43] <duck_> B-Minus: you are lying
[09:43] <B-Minus> duck_: nope
[09:43] <duck_> B-Minus: wow
[09:43] <jsgotangco> Endler: i can even run it on 192 with just a little waiting time
[09:43] <duck_> B-Minus: wow
[09:43] <duck_> B-Minus: wow
[09:43] <duck_> B-Minus: WOW
[09:43] <B-Minus> :p
[09:44] <B-Minus> maybe i can tweak it so it will be faster
[09:44] <Endler> KDE isn't really "bloated" at all.
[09:44] <duck_> B-Minus: I'll bet you have women jumping for you, what with those kind os impressive linux skills...
[09:44] <Endler> People just assume it must be because it has so many features.
[09:45] <Zaire> weeee aiglx works lol
[09:45] <thill2708> why is it that when I unplug my wired connection I lose my routing information, and my default device doesn't switch over to my wireless connection?
[09:45] <Endler> Chick dig Linux gurus, huh? :))
[09:45] <Endler> chicks
[09:46] <duck_> I was surprised by how light ubuntu was; everyone in the gentoo forums say ubuntu ios bloated, but I don't think they've ever tried it
[09:46] <Healot> Endler: only rich gurus :)
[09:46] <Endler> What about cute ones. :)
[09:46] <duck_> Endler: Just tell them that you write your own scripts and watch what they do!
[09:47] <Healot> Endler: cute and rich i guess )
[09:47] <Jucato> a cute and rich Linux guru?
[09:47] <Endler> I'll have to give that a try duck :))
[09:47] <Jucato> that's a rare breed
[09:47] <Healot> duck_: in matter of install and packaging, yes
[09:47] <Healot> in functionality, ubuntu kinda rocks
[09:47] <thill2708> anyone? bueller?
[09:48] <thill2708> bueller?
[09:48] <BderenorCaine> they're not listening
[09:48] <Healot> Jucato: yes, that I'd agree to
[09:48] <duck_> Endler: I'm just joking, I told a girl something like that and she thereafter stopped hanging out with me: true story
[09:48] <Jucato> Mark Shuttleworth might be one...
[09:48] <craftycorner> found four windows viruses on my linux box
[09:49] <craftycorner> in my email
[09:49] <Healot> Mark? i don't know about him being cute; rich, maybe :)
[09:49] <Endler> The main thing that makes Linux faster or slower is that number of superfluous processes launched at startup.
[09:49] <craftycorner> so glad don't use windows anymore
[09:49] <jsgotangco> craftycorner: they're just there...
[09:49] <craftycorner> i know, I plan to ditch them tho, being good netizen 4 windows friends
[09:49] <gobi> yea, i moved my workstation off windows the other day.  it's been a good conversion so far.
[09:50] <craftycorner> Novel's in bed w microsucks
[09:50] <duck_> Novell sucks. They have the crappiest package-management ever.
[09:50] <Endler> Wow, duck.  Maybe you need to rework the delivery.  ;)
[09:51] <jsgotangco> duck_: chill dude
[09:51] <duck_> jsgotango: I just finioshed a big espresso. You should see how quickly I am typing and glancing around right now. I'm like a fiend or something.
[09:51] <Endler> I kind of liked Suse, but you're right, Yast is slow as molasses.
[09:52] <craftycorner> I still run windoze for the hardware, but surf exclusively Linux
[09:52] <duck_> jsgotango: make that double-espresso
[09:52] <amichai_> how can i force upgrade to overwrite a file?
[09:52] <jsgotangco> duck_: sweet i love a caffeine high sometimes
[09:52] <amichai_> trying to overwrite
[09:52] <amichai_> i want to force it to overwrite
[09:52] <duck_> jsgotango: yeah its fun isn't it?!
[09:52] <craftycorner> only waiting 4 Linux to catch up w the hardware, or my budget or one  or the other...
[09:53] <duck_> jsgotango: its like the fun part of getting drunk, but with more control and no hang-over
[09:53] <thill2708> why is it that when I unplug my wired connection I lose my routing information, and my default device doesn't switch over to my wireless connection?
[09:54] <jsgotangco> craftycorner: its a nice thing that majority of hardware actually do work on a free software platform but there are still a major few that don't
[09:54] <Endler> You'll get one hell of a splitting withdrawal headache though if you ever go cold turkey on the expresso though.
[09:54] <craftycorner> yea, I know.
[09:54] <jsgotangco> so next time, don't get an ati or nvidia :)
[09:54] <craftycorner> thankfully, the free stuff is secure as hell and acts as a bubble 4 the pay
[09:54] <x0x> hi guys, wondering if anyone can help me, i upgraded to edgy the other day, and im having a wierd problem.. my usb (logitech) keyboard and mouse seem to hang randomly during any session
[09:55] <x0x> i think that it could be the whole usbcore thats stopping, cos when this happens, everything thats connected to a usb stops working
[09:55] <x0x> anyone have a solution?
[09:55] <craftycorner> when XP gets dumped, I won't be left helpless like all the poor folk running 98, they need to toss  a Linux VM aboard
[09:55] <jsgotangco> x0x: can you do dmesg before and after your usb is plugged in, then file it as a bug in malone with a nice description of what happens
[09:56] <Endler> Linux has extremely good hardware support in many areas (rivaling windows), but poor support in a couple of areas.
[09:56] <thill2708> also, how can I remap my laptop keyboard to pick up all the keys again? I was messing around with xgl/beryl, and it somehow lost some of the correct keybindings
[09:56] <craftycorner> I've 98 on an old machine, can I stuff a Linux VM on it, even tho it's only 4 gig hard drive?
[09:56] <x0x> jsgotangco: will do
[09:56] <Endler> Like wifi, video, and certain brands of printers.
[09:56] <jsgotangco> craftycorner: the VM might be really really slow
[09:56] <craftycorner> oh:/
[09:56] <jsgotangco> craftycorner: especially if your host machine isn't that great in terms of hardware specs
[09:56] <Electrolyte> So, has anyone heard the news of Microsoft announcing Linux partnership?
[09:56] <craftycorner> sucks hard
[09:57] <craftycorner> yea, about wet my pants
[09:57] <Endler> No, I haven't.
[09:57] <duck_> Electrolye: link?
[09:57] <Electrolyte> http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB116249026689311557-lMyQjAxMDE2NjAyMjQwOTIwWj.html
[09:57] <duck_> Electrolye: thnx
[09:57] <x0x> jsgotangco: do you think it could be a problem with APCI?
[09:57] <jsgotangco> x0x: i dont see any connection at all
[09:58] <craftycorner> or Kubuntu?  <sp>
[09:58] <Jucato> guys, let's try to keep things on topic for those asking support questions.
[09:58] <honza> Hello
[09:58] <thill2708> Can anyone help me manage my routing problemo?
[09:58] <craftycorner> I mean, can this merger cause problems w us Kubuntu users
[09:58] <Jucato> Electrolyte, craftycorner, Endler: you are more than welcome in #kubuntu-offtopic for this discussion :)
[09:59] <jsgotangco> craftycorner: not really
[09:59] <duck_> thill2708: ? what's the problem ?
[09:59] <honza> I'm having problem with hibernation... I've compiled my own kernel, and the original edgy hibernation doesn't work. What should I have enabled or compiled in 2.6.18 kernel?
[09:59] <thill2708> Well, when the ethernet cable is plugged into my laptop, I can get on the net just fine, like now for example.
[09:59] <xsacha> honza: dpms?
[09:59] <Endler> Sounds like MS wants to lock everyone into one vendor with can start charging on par with them and make linux less of the thorn for them
[10:00] <thill2708> I check my routing table, and I have a route correctly set for eth0 and eth1. However, when I unplug the cable, the routing information goes away for eth1 as well, rendering it useless. Wtf?
[10:00] <Endler> I don't think their intentions are good, by any means.
[10:00] <honza> xsacha I don't understand. Dpms? That's a function?
[10:00] <Jucato> Endler: please?
[10:00] <jsgotangco> Endler: that's subjective, man by nature only has good intentions for itself
[10:00] <ehird> hm
[10:01] <duck_> thill2708: eth1 is internal and eth0 is external?
[10:01] <xsacha> honza: does suspend or standby work for you?
[10:01] <ehird> any ideas why on My eBay, clicking the dropdown appears for a sec then is replaced with brown?
[10:01] <thill2708> duck_: other way around
[10:01] <amichai_> guys this package xterm is preventing me from upgrading, do i remove it?
[10:02] <Endler> That's not true.  Only a subset of the population is only out for themselves and they want to convince everyone else that it is their nature too.
[10:02] <duck_> thill2708: sorry, I don't know what the problem could be
[10:02] <thill2708> heh
[10:02] <honza> xsacha Suspend works, standby as well, but hibernation doesn't. The system seems to hibernate himself, but then it boot as normally.
[10:02] <duck_> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/home-router-howto.xml
[10:02] <xsacha> that's odd..
[10:03] <duck_> thill2708: maybe something in there will give you an idea
[10:03] <Endler> Damn, these channel are serious productivity killers.
[10:03] <Endler> Time just slips away. :)
[10:04] <honza> xsacha  yes. Shouldn't something be added into the menu.lst of the grub?
[10:04] <Endler> Goodnight everyone.
[10:04] <thill2708> ok, then gents, how 'bout this? How do I have kubuntu redect my laptop keyboard to regain teh control of the "fn" keys?
[10:05] <duck_> thill2708: if you are on a toshiba, there is support for that
[10:05] <thill2708> acer
[10:05] <duck_> thill2708: but you have to install something
[10:05] <honza> thill2708 acer travelmate?
[10:05] <thill2708> nah, it was detected fine on install
[10:05] <thill2708> yeah
[10:05] <duck_> thill2708: oh, nevermind
[10:06] <thill2708> travelmate 4402
[10:06] <duck_> thill2708: is that a tablet pc?
[10:06] <thill2708> nope, lappy
[10:06] <mike__> :+
[10:06] <honza> thill2708 I have 240, most of the blue buttons works fine, exept the mute button, which wasn't detected, and the volume, which i needed to set manually
[10:07] <thill2708> hm, interesting. Mine were all fine, then xgl/beryl totally lost it for me
[10:09] <nino> anyone know of a good antivirus that can also scan windows partitions??
[10:10] <ehird> so no ideas?
[10:11] <duck_> nope
[10:12] <MidMark> guys someone has problem mounting dvd? I thought before was a problem with k3b doesn't close sessions, but now I think mounting dvd with one session is broken
[10:12] <MidMark> anyone else?
[10:13] <omicron> nino: clamav?
[10:13] <craftycorner> avast is a good one, can sniff windows viruses
[10:13] <craftycorner> I sniffed windows crap in my email.
[10:13] <omicron> nino: with the frontend klamav its quite nice
[10:13] <nino> cool, im trying clamav now thx!!
[10:14] <craftycorner> avast allows you to sniff the whole drive
[10:14] <craftycorner> can clam?
[10:14] <nino> ive got it on my ipcop firewall to scan mail so i think so
[10:14] <omicron> as the drive is only a mounted filesystem it can =)
[10:14] <BderenorCaine> drwxrwxrwx  6 dominik root 4,0K 2006-11-02 02:00 hdb2
[10:14] <BderenorCaine> ?---------  ? ?       ?       ?                ? /media/Server
[10:14] <BderenorCaine> drwxrwxrwx  5 root    root 4,0K 2006-10-29 11:02 sdb1
[10:15] <BderenorCaine> this isn't good, is it ?
[10:15] <nino> i want to plug and play hardrives for virusses
[10:15] <nino> so im setting it up on a isolated kubuntu box
[10:16] <x0x> js
[10:16] <BderenorCaine> that was an "ls /media"
[10:16] <BderenorCaine> part of it
[10:16] <craftycorner> are there any known Linux viruses that attack via email?
[10:17] <Healot> none
[10:17] <nino> not that i know of hey
[10:17] <Healot> well, maybe some embedded rootkit
[10:17] <Healot> if you're good enough to use root all the time :)
[10:18] <BderenorCaine> any ideas what this might be ?
[10:18] <x0x> anyone help me out? i upgraded to edgy recently, and now since upgrade, my usb (logitech) mouse and keyboard keep hanging at random times during a session
[10:18] <craftycorner> I don't open crap in email I don't know from folks I don't know, and few use Linux
[10:18] <x0x> the only way to get it working again is to reboot
[10:18] <nino> thats the safest
[10:18] <x0x> i rmmod, and then modprobe again, still doesnt work
[10:18] <x0x> reboot is needed for it to start working again
[10:18] <craftycorner> the only way I know to get into root is alt+f2
[10:19] <BderenorCaine> ...please ?
[10:19] <x0x> it seems to be the whole usbcore thats hanging, as my ipod would also stop when the mouse and keyboard stop
[10:20] <craftycorner> is that correct?  alt+f2 is root?
[10:20] <nino> I LOVE LINUX!!!!
[10:21] <Zaire> I love AIGLX lol
[10:21] <x0x> lol
[10:21] <craftycorner> nino?
[10:21] <nino> yea
[10:21] <Healot> eye candy, eye candy bleh
[10:21] <Zaire> lol wobbly windows lol
[10:21] <nino> lollies
[10:21] <Zaire> lol spinny desktop lol
[10:21] <x0x> can anyone help|
[10:21] <x0x> ?
[10:22] <xsacha> craftycorner: alt+f2 just runs a command... ?
[10:22] <xsacha> you'd want kdesu or sudo for it to work as root
[10:22] <craftycorner> ah ok
[10:22] <nino> kdesu from the run command
[10:22] <craftycorner> I gotta do that if I wanna delete something lol
[10:22] <craftycorner> right
[10:22] <xsacha> you can use any method to do that too, konsole for eg.
[10:23] <xsacha> dont have to use alt+f2
[10:23] <craftycorner> but I don't do that 4 email hehehe, so no can do to catch cooties
[10:23] <xsacha> lol@cooties
[10:23] <xsacha> hey i was wondering, does gnome have anything big lined up like KDE4?
[10:23] <craftycorner> I did a big update a bit ago
[10:24] <BderenorCaine> hey, i was wondering, can anyone HELP me ?
[10:24] <x0x> how do i get my mouse and keyboard to start working again?
[10:24] <nino> dont know, only that microsoft are launching a sh$tier version of windaz => V1St4!!
[10:25] <craftycorner> No VM's allowed
[10:25] <Mehercle> V1$st4
[10:25] <craftycorner> what kinda mouse & keyboard u got?
[10:25] <Mehercle> V1$t4
[10:25] <nino> Vista
[10:26] <Mehercle> V1$t4
[10:26] <craftycorner> A Vista mouse and keyboard?  Yuck!  You may have a problem
[10:26] <Mehercle> lo
[10:26] <Mehercle> lol
[10:26] <nino> lol
[10:27] <Mehercle> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_PowerShell
[10:27] <x0x> i got a logitech wireless mouse and keyboard
[10:27] <Mehercle> yuck
[10:28] <craftycorner> I bought the suckiest, most generic mouse and keyboard available, mouse 14, keyboard 34.
[10:28] <nino> cool im gonna terminate some virusses now, clamav is up and running!! Systems go@
[10:28] <x0x> keeps on hanging in edgy
[10:28] <craftycorner> you may be able to get someone to help you mix up a deb batch to get em to play w your Linux.  you got the cd they came w?
[10:29] <nino> mwahaahaaa
[10:29] <x0x> but i dont think its got to do with the mouse and keyboard.. there must be something conflicting in usbcore
[10:30] <craftycorner> your puter under warrenty?
[10:30] <craftycorner> I mean hardware?
[10:31] <craftycorner> how many usb ports u got?
[10:31] <x0x> 4
[10:31] <craftycorner> and are your keyboard & mouse in two or in one?
[10:31] <x0x> one
[10:32] <craftycorner> put them in a dif port
[10:32] <x0x> keyboard and mouse with wireless receiver
[10:32] <craftycorner> kk, put wireless in dif port
[10:32] <x0x> worked fine in dapper, now that ive upgraded to edgy it randomly hangs
[10:32] <craftycorner> could be prob w 'hand shake' between mouse and reciever
[10:32] <x0x> i dont think its the mouse and keyboard that are hanging though, it seems to be the whole of usbcore
[10:33] <craftycorner> I'm stumped
[10:33] <x0x> no cos when this happens, my ipod, and anything that is plugged into usb stops working
[10:36] <craftycorner> i gotta get some sleep
[10:39] <MidMark> none with dvd mounting problem?
[10:39] <ehird> how do I use a > pipe to copy stderr?
[10:43] <ehird> :/
[10:45] <Lynoure> ehird: first hit with google with "copy stderr": http://www.thisishull.net/showthread.php?t=22734
[10:45] <glotzbac> Hello. I'm not sure whether this is the right place to ask, but does anybody know where I could find a list of 3rd party repositories available on the net? I couldn'
[10:46] <glotzbac> I couldn't find any such list in the official places. Did I not look hard enough?
[10:47] <alumno> QUIERO EL ESPAOL
[10:47] <alumno> ME PARECE Q ES KUBUNTU ES
[10:48] <Lynoure> !se
[10:48] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[10:48] <Lynoure> oopn
[10:48] <Lynoure> !es
[10:48] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:49] <Lynoure> glotzbac: I do not think there is a comprehensive list anywhere as anyone can set up a repository.
[10:50] <Lynoure> glotzbac: but see e.g. http://kaisman.free.fr/dotclear/index.php?unofficial-list-kubuntu-606-dapper-drake-repositories
[10:51] <Ash-Fox> "It looks like your version of ClamAV is out of date! ClamAV-0.88.5 is the most recent version available. Would you like KlamAV to download and compile it for you?" <- Hm, that's going to break things I think.
[10:52] <glotzbac> Lynoure: Thank you
[10:53] <Lynoure> glotzbac: Be careful with them.
[10:53] <ehird> Ash-Fox: anti-virus? i thought this was linux ;)
[10:54] <glotzbac> Lynoure: It's ok I guess. I only needed a place to start looking from. This is as fine as I had hoped :-)
[10:57] <glotzbac> Lynoure: But would there be a place where all those with their own little repositories would announce them?
[10:59] <stamen> hi
[11:00] <stamen> ho to check am I with Edgy or I am still with dapper
[11:00] <CVirus> stamen: cat /etc/issue.net
[11:01] <stamen> ok I will try
[11:01] <nino> anyone know the command for chmod read and write permission??
[11:02] <stamen> CVirus: I am still with dapper
[11:02] <stamen> how to upgrade
[11:02] <CVirus> !upgrade
[11:02] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[11:03] <CVirus> stamen: this page is all what you need
[11:03] <CVirus> stamen: just follow it strictly
[11:04] <omicron> nino: chmod +r filename puts read permissions on that file
[11:04] <omicron> nino: chmod +w writing permissions
[11:05] <stamen> CVirus: ok 10ks
[11:05] <CVirus> stamen: no problem
[11:07] <Hobbsee> !grub
[11:07] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:10] <xsacha> !lilo
[11:10] <ehird> why is amarok lagigng my machien in the systray even tho it has no processes open
[11:11] <xsacha> ehird: amarok isnt running?
[11:11] <xsacha> like it has no window/
[11:11] <ehird> xsacha: bingo, i just fixed it tho
[11:11] <xsacha> kill it? :)
[11:11] <ehird> the point is it doesn't show up in ps -A
[11:12] <xsacha> ps ax | grep amar ?
[11:12] <xsacha> sudo killall amarok :D
[11:15] <ehird> i did
[11:15] <ehird> it seriously wasn't running :p
[11:21] <nino> omicron: thnx
[11:23] <Zaire> how do you change the font color for the cli konsole?
[11:26] <Hobbsee> !samba
[11:26] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[11:27] <abattoir> Zaire: Settings->Configure Konsole
[11:27] <Hobbsee> !sharing
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sharing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <Hobbsee> !share
[11:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:27] <abattoir> Zaire: choose the colours through the 'Schema' tab
[11:27] <shinobi2> hi
[11:28] <Zaire> I can't see any color stuff for the fonts though :S
[11:29] <Zaire> Im using transparent konsol and want to keep it that way and just change the font color
[11:33] <Jucato> Zaire: that would be the Foreground color in the dropdown list (Scheme tab)
[11:33] <nino> Zaire: goto configure konsole
[11:33] <nino> yep
[11:34] <nino> Konsol color
[11:34] <Zaire> k thing is I just want the text color different
[11:35] <Jucato> Zaire: Schema tab: Shell color drop-down list. 0 - Foreground color controls the color of main font, while 1 - Background color controls the background colors/transparency
[11:36] <nino> just play around with those 2 settings!!
[11:36] <Zaire> I have been for an hour
[11:36] <nino> lol
[11:37] <Jucato> Zaire: then just edit that part that I told you, the "0 - Foreground color" controls the primary font color
[11:37] <Zaire> was on wrong schema
[11:38] <Jucato> :P
[11:38] <nino> u see!!
[11:39] <Zaire> well atleast it lets you use hex colors
[11:39] <Zaire> thx
[11:40] <Zaire> now only issue I have left is why my beryl isn't letting me rotate my desktop as a cube anymore :S
[11:42] <Zaire> meh i'll work on that later its late gtg
[11:56] <mikel28> the name of the file free_config.py in the 'setup' folder is unlogical?
[11:58] <mikel28> i would rather think that its an example for freevo.conf
[11:58] <mikel28> instead of loca_conf.py
[11:58] <mikel28> shIT wrong chan.
[11:58] <MidMark> anyone with dvd mounting problem?
[11:58] <Jucato> ...
[12:01] <ie> can some explain how to turn on num lock automatically on boot please and also where to show the most recently used programs (start menu) setting is (Edgy)
[12:03] <ie> also ... Just installed Edgy 6.10 (fresh install). Whenever I go to shut down the computer, the Kubuntu splash screen is displayed with the progress bar and then I get a message 'System Halted' but the machine does not shut down automatically. Any ideas how to fix please?
[12:03] <kay_> hello i try to install the vmware-workstation (not the free player) so i download the tar.gz file and there ends my know how :-( how can i go on to install it?
[12:04] <ehird> kay_: you don't want to use vmware workstation
[12:04] <kay_> ehird: sure i want
[12:04] <xsacha> anyone know how to get sound on videos in youtube?
[12:04] <ehird> kay_: no, you don't
[12:04] <kay_> ehird: why?
[12:05] <ehird> kay_: because it'll be harder to use than untaring a tar.gz file so you'd better master that first :p
[12:06] <kay_> ehird: sure you are right but i used the vmware already but i dont know ow to handle a tar.gz (i know it i unpaked it already but how do i go on?)
[12:07] <ehird> kay_ is it source code or a binary?
[12:07] <nickste> does edgy have mp3 support built in?
[12:07] <kay_> ehird: binary
[12:07] <ehird> kay_ then just run it
[12:09] <ie> sorted num lock
[12:17] <ehird> SOME CAPATCHAS ARE STUPIDLY LAME.
[12:20] <rav3n> why do i have to dhclient everytime to get the internet connection up and working...how cani fix that to work automatically ???
[12:23] <ehird> I have a game binary in a tar file off my game CD. What would I do if I wanted to make it install itself in the usual directories for software and so i could remove it with, say, dpkg?
[12:23] <ehird> Does checkinstall work on binaries?
[12:24] <[cf] nightrid3r> ehird: nope checkinstazll only works on sources
[12:24] <ehird> [cf] nightrid3r: damn. any other ideas, people?
 Ash-Fox: anti-virus? i thought this was linux ;) <- I run a lot of Amiga/DOS/Windows software under Linux. Since ClamAV can identify windows and dos viruses, I see it stupid not to be prepared.
[12:27] <yahalom> i'm trying to upgrade to edgy and i get this and i get an oveerite error
[12:27] <yahalom> can someone help me?
[12:27] <yahalom> rying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin'
[12:28] <yahalom> i tried sudo apt-get -f install and it doesnt fix it
[12:28] <Ash-Fox> You might want to quote the exact message, so we can at least guess what you were trying todo.
[12:28] <yahalom> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin', which is also in package fglrx-6-8-0
[12:28] <Ash-Fox> yahalom, are you following the instructions on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade ?
[12:28] <pointwood> how is kitchensync supposed to be used? I just installed it, but I don't see it anywhere?
[12:29] <yahalom> Ash-Fox: didnt know about it
[12:29] <Ash-Fox> pointwood, no idea what that is, but you could hit alt + f2 and run it from there.
[12:29] <[cf] nightrid3r> yahalom: fglrx probably doesn't get updated ???
[12:29] <yahalom> [cf] nightrid3r:  so what do i do, i removed fglrx
[12:30] <SlimG> I've packed ioquake3 i386 deb package, although this package require one additional file from the orig. quake3 cd, is it still acceptable it to upload it into the universe?
[12:30] <[cf] nightrid3r> yahalom: could help, its an opengl driver
[12:30] <yahalom> [cf] nightrid3r: i removed it, still get problem
[12:30] <ehird> So, no ideas?
[12:31] <_Shade_> how do i automatically set up my tv tuner on kubuntu?
[12:32] <Ash-Fox> SlimG, I think that goes into multiverse, since multiverse contains other quake/doom stuff too.
[12:32] <yahalom> [cf] nightrid3r: i removed it, still get problem apt-get -f install it wont fix it
[12:33] <yahalom> Ash-Fox: apt-get -f install wont fix it
[12:33] <[cf] nightrid3r> yahalom: strange hmmm
[12:33] <Ash-Fox> yahalom, remove fglrx
[12:33] <Ash-Fox> sudo apt-get remove fglrx
[12:33] <SlimG> Ash-Fox: But ioquake3 is GPL'ed, shouldn't GPL'ed stuff go into universe?
[12:34] <yahalom> Ash-Fox: E: Couldn't find package fglrx
[12:34] <[cf] nightrid3r> SlimG: it depends on non-gpl stuff
[12:34] <_Shade_> any idea? (i mean the tv-card in edgy)
[12:34] <wozzlle> hello all
[12:34] <Ash-Fox> SlimG, well, look at the current packages. I see lxdoom in universe, doom-legacy is in multiverse, quake2 is in multiverse..
[12:35] <SlimG> [cf] nightrid3r: Oh i forgot about the CD
[12:35] <wozzlle> can someone here suggest a linux app for converting a dual audio divx to a svcd?
[12:35] <wozzlle> mpeg*
[12:35] <ehird> well okay, just one thing
[12:35] <[cf] nightrid3r> _Shade_: use dmesg to see if your card is recognised
[12:35] <Ash-Fox> SlimG sudo apt-get remove fglrx-6-8-0
[12:35] <ehird> where are most apps stored on kubuntu? i'll drop the game executable in /usr/bin and the rest in there..
[12:35] <Ash-Fox> Er yahalom
[12:35] <yahalom> Ash-Fox: fglrx-6-8-0
[12:36] <SlimG> So it belongs in multiverse, is there any extra strict rules that should apply to the pack before beeing upped? like man pages and docs?
[12:36] <ehird> it seems to be in /var/lib/<app>. is that right?
[12:36] <yahalom> Ash-Fox: when i try to remove it i get this: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/X11R6/bin', which is also in package fglrx-6-8-0
[12:37] <Ash-Fox> SlimG, not that I'm aware of.
[12:37] <yahalom> Ash-Fox: whatever i do i get this
[12:37] <Ash-Fox> yahalom, I've never had that problem, but let's see...
[12:38] <_Shade_> [cf] nightrid3r what should i look for then?
[12:38] <[cf] nightrid3r> if your card shows up in the listing
[12:39] <Ash-Fox> yahalom, try sudo dpkg --force-all --remove fglrx-6-8-0
[12:40] <yahalom> Ash-Fox: Removing fglrx-6-8-0 ...
[12:40] <yahalom> Ash-Fox: now try upgrade again?
[12:40] <yahalom> Ash-Fox: apt-get -u dist-upgrade
[12:40] <yahalom> ?
[12:40] <pointwood> hrm - where do I find bluetooth devices?
[12:40] <Ash-Fox> yahalom, try the instructions on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade from the dist-upgrade command
[12:41] <yahalom> Ash-Fox: same error man
[12:41] <ehird> i'll just do it
[12:41] <yahalom> Ash-Fox:
[12:41] <yahalom> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:41] <yahalom>  /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6_i386.deb
[12:41] <yahalom> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[12:41] <yahalom> sorry longer than i thought
[12:42] <Ash-Fox> yahalom, sudo dpkg --install --force-all /var/cache/apt/archives/x11-common_1%3a7.1.1ubuntu6_i386.deb
[12:42] <Ash-Fox> yahalom, are you using fglrx by any chance?
[12:43] <yahalom> Ash-Fox: well i searched for it, the onyl installed is flgrx-6-8-0
[12:43] <yahalom> Ash-Fox: ok it worked bro
[12:43] <ehird> alright, i'm just gonna ask again. i have a tgz with a game binary and its files needed, should i make a symlink in /usr/bin pointing to /var/lib/<game name>/<game executable> and dump all the files in /var/lib/<game name>?
[12:43] <yahalom> Ash-Fox: i think so at least
[12:43] <Ash-Fox> yahalom, alright. Let me know if you have any problems :)
[12:44] <yahalom> Ash-Fox: thanks man, u made my day
[12:44] <[cf] nightrid3r> ehird: seems the easy way to go if you ever want to delete the game
[12:44] <yahalom> Ash-Fox: (maybe?!?)
[12:44] <ehird> [cf] nightrid3r: alright, thanks
[12:45] <ehird> amusing how a hacking sim using *nix filesystem paths ingame requires lots of manual stuffs to install nicely on linux :D
[12:46] <_Shade_> [cf] nightrid3r: 17179710.160000]  Linux video capture interface: v1.00?
[12:46] <Hobbsee> !xcfg
[12:46] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:48] <ehird> how do i make a symlink via the console?
[12:48] <gobi> ln -s file.ext symlink.ext
[12:48] <ehird> gobi: thanks
[12:48] <Ash-Fox> ehird, ln -s /bin/bash /home/name/tomato
[12:48] <gobi> np
[12:49] <[cf] nightrid3r> _Shade_: thats it so it should just work
[12:49] <Ash-Fox> gobi, blah. Was trying to figure out how to phrase that :P thought of /source /destination, but that would be confusing :P
[12:49] <ehird> ehird@ehird-desktop:/usr/bin$ sudo ln -s /var/lib/uplink/uplink uplink  <-- will that have done the trick
[12:50] <Ash-Fox> ehird, if /var/lib/uplink/uplink exists, yes.
[12:50] <ehird> ash-fox: it does, it's the game executable :)
[12:50] <Ash-Fox> And if var/lib/uplink/uplink is executable.
[12:50] <ehird> ok, time to test
[12:50] <ehird> wish me luck guys
[12:50] <ehird> :p
[12:50] <omicron> just installed beryl...nice.. did not expect it to run on my machine..*g*
[12:51] <ehird> =( alt+f2, "uplink", gives the executable icon but nothing happens
[12:51] <ehird> ah, idea
[12:51] <ehird> how do i get the permissions of every file in a dir?
[12:51] <Ash-Fox> ls -ll
[12:52] <ehird> there's my problem, i either need to give others rwx permissions or change chown to ehird
[12:52] <ehird> i think i'll do the latter
[12:52] <Ash-Fox> !uplink
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about uplink - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:52] <ehird> uplink is a game :p
[12:52] <Ash-Fox> I know it is.
[12:53] <ehird> alright, well it should work now
[12:53] <ehird> nope
[12:53] <ehird> same
[12:53] <ehird> i'll try running in terminal
[12:54] <ehird> !pastebin
[12:54] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:54] <ehird> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30014/ nay ideas?
[12:55] <universi> Someone with Prism isl3886?
[12:56] <Ash-Fox> universi, no, but would you like help with it anyway?
[12:56] <ehird> ah, i know the problem
[12:56] <universi> i have kubuntu edgy
[12:56] <ehird> the symlink is executing the game as if it's in /usr/bin
[12:56] <ehird> i'll change the symlink into a bash script that cds to the game dir
[12:57] <universi> kubuntu recognize my card
[12:57] <universi> and my card find my wireless network
[12:57] <universi> but don't work DHCP
[12:58] <universi> ideas?
[12:59] <_Shade_> [cf] nightrid3r well... but i cannot get a display in tvtime, so i guess i can't set it up properly. Is there any app to guide me through it easily?
[01:00] <[cf] nightrid3r> _Shade_: kdetv
[01:01] <_Shade_> [cf] nightrid3r ok thanks mate. I'll try it
[01:06] <Ash-Fox> universi, and you're using the wifi manager?
[01:06] <Ash-Fox> *wireless lan manager
[01:12] <speedy> I've install kubuntu-desktop package, but i couldnt login into KDE, getting "could not start kstartupconfig. check your installation" msg.. any idea on how to get it working?
[01:13] <universi> yes
[01:14] <universi> Ash-Fox: yes
[01:14] <Ash-Fox> speedy, try kbuildsycoca
[01:14] <Ash-Fox> Then try to login using KDE again.
[01:15] <speedy> Ash-Fox what is that?
[01:15] <Jucato> in a terminal or Alt+F2, type in "kbuildsycoca"
[01:15] <Ash-Fox> speedy, rebuilds certain menus, mime things and a few other things.
[01:15] <speedy> as root?
[01:15] <Jucato> no
[01:15] <Ash-Fox> No.
[01:15] <speedy> ok
[01:16] <Ash-Fox> universi, what is your wireless card device called?
[01:19] <speedy> thanks
[01:21] <universi> Gemtek WL850FJx (Conexant)
[01:21] <Ash-Fox> No, the device name, like eth0, ath0 etc.
[01:21] <universi> :D sorry
[01:21] <universi> eth2
[01:23] <Ash-Fox> Assuming it's really a DHCP problem, it could be caused by your /etc/network/interfaces file, try editing it, 'kdesu kate /etc/network/interfaces', and remove any line that mentions 'eth2'. Restart your system, and try using the wireless assistant again.
[01:25] <mikel28> i cant access my mounted drive with a normal user account, to what group should i add myself to have access?
[01:25] <universi> ok, i'll try this
[01:29] <hazard> you should mount the drive with a group equal to yours
[01:30] <hazard> mikel28^^
[01:30] <mikel28> ahhh ok thanks hazard- im always mounting me stuff with sudo
[01:30] <hazard> or setup something  like autofs to do it for you
[01:31] <hazard> yes, the same sudo mount [blah blah blah]  will work
[01:31] <mikel28> hmmm well, im using the drive only in my shells (almost)
[01:31] <thyko> how do i install all packages including the 'recomended' ones from the command line?
[01:31] <hazard> you just need to add the options to have it mount with your GID (or maybe your UID too/instead if you're the only one to use it)
[01:32] <wk> i have problems with the radeon driver on my edgy on notebook with a ati mobility radeon 9000 (M9) - directrendering doesn't work - someone here who can elp?
[01:32] <hazard> autofs is a kernel module that using some fairly simple config files will auto mount file systems when you try to access them (it slightly less useful to a system with a GUI but works great on systems without their own automounters)
[01:33] <hazard> it can be setup to unmount the drive/partition/network drive/pretty much anything once not in use and a certian amount of time has passed
[01:33] <thyko> any ideas?
[01:33] <mikel28> hazard: sounds great - im going to look into that autofs automount stuff :)
[01:34] <hazard> autofs is more like 'an automatic way to enter the same sudo'd mount& automatic unmouting commands'
[01:34] <hazard> it isn't that that hard to configure, just search around on google for example configuration files, or tutorials
[01:34] <Jucato> thyko: "sudo aptitude -r <package>"
[01:34] <hazard> it took me abit to figure out but once you do its pretty easy to understand and configure to what you want.
[01:35] <myesterious> hi
[01:35] <Jucato> thyko: although the default behavior of aptitude is already to install including the recommends
[01:35] <Jaeke555> bimberi: umm, one more try, do you know how I can set this machine to a domain, or maybe manually configure the DNS / gateway / ip addresses?
[01:36] <myesterious> the package of (K)Ubuntu is newer than Debian unstable ?
[01:39] <hazard> GAH!!
[01:39] <hazard> this is driving me nuts: how can I have kubuntu startup with the capslock on?
[01:39] <Jucato> hazard: System Settings -> Keyboard
[01:40] <hazard> that...should have been obvious thanks.
[01:44] <hazard> You know, even though pentium 1s/IIs are slow as...slow...I think I like them better than these new (to me) amd 1ghz+ chips. (the ones with the bare dies)
[01:48] <fildo> !vncserver
[01:48] <ubotu> vncserver: Virtual network computing server software. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.3.7-12ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 541 kB, installed size 1244 kB
[01:52] <thyko> Jucato: gracias
[01:52] <larson9999> i've got the edgy blues
[01:52] <hazard> how so?
[01:52] <Jucato> thyko: no problem. :)
[01:53] <Kabal> Hi all, in KDE rightmouse click Copy to & Move to.. how can I extend the list of paths?
[01:53] <larson9999> hazard: was that for me?
[01:53] <hazard> yes
[01:54] <Kabal> Where can I find the option to extend the path list?
[01:54] <Kabal> I saw it a while ago.. and never found it back :(
[01:54] <xsacha> wow, alt + down/up arrow key in konqueror is nice :) how can i alter the speed?
[01:54] <Jucato> Kabal: what do you mean by "extending"?
[01:54] <Kabal> more history more paths that are remembered
[01:55] <larson9999> hazard: oh, updated my son's computer to edgy.  things seem to work ok except wine.  i did finally get wine to install so most things work but the thing he using the most doesn't install: firefox 2.0.
[01:55] <hazard> yea, that counts.
[01:55] <hazard> as blues I mean
[01:55] <xsacha> Kabal: form completion?
[01:56] <Kabal> If I rightmouse click now on a file it will remember 5 latest paths.
[01:56] <xsacha> hmm..?
[01:56] <Jucato> aah
[01:56] <hazard> hi xsacha
[01:56] <xsacha> hi
[01:56] <Kabal> it's possible to raise that to say 10 paths?
[01:56] <Jucato> xsacha: the ones below the Copy To/Move To
[01:56] <xsacha> ahh
[01:57] <Jucato> xsacha: btw, were you talking about alt+up/down or shift+up/down?
[01:57] <xsacha> oh yeah, shift
[01:57] <Jucato> :P
[01:57] <Kabal> I just can't find the option again.. I know it exsists
[01:57] <SHRIKEE> all of the sudden my wifi wont work anymore :S
[01:57] <Jucato> xsacha: just press the up/down arrow longer, while pressing the shift key. it will speed up
[01:58] <xsacha> ok
[01:59] <xsacha> ahh i can stop with shift, but if i press shift again it goes back to the same speed :)
[02:00] <Hobbsee> !ssh
[02:00] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[02:00] <Jucato> xsacha: nice, isn't it? :)
[02:00] <xsacha> yes, these things i never knew about :D
[02:00] <Jucato> hehe
[02:00] <xsacha> going to try some more keys
[02:00] <Jucato> whoa! my Edit as Root is back!!! yipeee!!!
[02:01] <thyko> "my edit as root'?
[02:01] <Jucato> xsacha: you already know how to turn off the Access keys? (the yellow boxes that appear when you press Ctrl)
[02:01] <thyko> !icecast
[02:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about icecast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:01] <Jucato> thyko: the "Edit as Root" service menu in Konqueror. I sort of lost it...
[02:02] <xsacha> oops, wrong key
[02:02] <Jucato> lol
[02:02] <Jucato> don't tell me you pressed Ctrl+Q?
[02:02] <Kabal> nobody knows where to find the option?
[02:02] <Jucato> still looking for it Kabal...
[02:02] <teledyn> wow i just discovered a cool little utility called ncal
[02:02] <thyko> aah, that
[02:03] <teledyn> totally rad, a little ascii calendar in your term with date highlighted
[02:03] <Kabal> Jucato: thanx :)
[02:04] <Kabal> Jucato: me too.. I found it months ago.. never found the option again..
[02:07] <xsacha> no, i pressed sysrq i think
[02:07] <xsacha> pressed a lot of keys
[02:08] <SHRIKEE> can anyone help me with my wlan?
[02:08] <Jucato> Kabal: I found it, but you won't be happy :)
[02:08] <ehird> how to i check if i'm using an amd64 processor? i think i am but... :p
[02:09] <SHRIKEE> uname -r
[02:09] <Kabal> Jucato: ?? hehe
[02:10] <Kabal> Jucato: Is the option gone?
[02:10] <universi> Ash-Fox: I try to comment lines in /etc/network/interfaces where appers "eth2"
[02:10] <Jucato> Kabal: er... I *might* not have found it after all... but the bad news is that even if you find it, it won't make much of a difference
[02:10] <Jucato> Kabal: the maximum remembered paths... is 6
[02:10] <Kabal> Jucato: 6???
[02:10] <universi> but not work
[02:10] <Jucato> yes
[02:10] <Kabal> where do I find this option?
[02:11] <rhodri> hi, my screen goes blank after 10 minutes of activity, but as far as i can tell my screensaver is off and i can't find any power settings that are effecting this?  it's annoying the hell out of me, can anyone help?!?!  thanks.
[02:11] <Jucato> SHRIKEE: uname -r will only show you the kernel you are using, not necessarily your processor
[02:11] <Jucato> ehird: try KInfoCenter
[02:11] <rhodri> cat /proc/cpuinfo for processor info
[02:11] <SHRIKEE> hmm i just saw that yes
[02:12] <SHRIKEE>  uname -m does show the cputype
[02:12] <Jucato> Kabal: I'm not really sure it would be in there, but you can try launching KControl. Alt+F2, then type in "kcontrol", look for KDE Components -> File Manager -> Quick Copy & Move tab
[02:12] <ehird> what the, kinfocenter says I have a 1.00ghz cpu, and last time i checked it was 1.8ghz o.O
[02:12] <SHRIKEE> ehird, maybe acpi throttled it
[02:12] <ehird> SHRIKEE: what would cause that to happen/is it fixable
[02:12] <cpk1> laptop and pentium = you will get throttled =P
[02:13] <SHRIKEE> its a setting in power management
[02:13] <Jucato> ehird: you'll see somthing in the model name and model
[02:13] <cpk1> ehird: you on a laptop?
[02:13] <SHRIKEE> lower speed is less power
[02:13] <ehird> cpk1: nope
[02:13] <cpk1> ehird: pentium?
[02:13] <SHRIKEE> but amd cool 'n quiet does cpu throttling aswell ;)
[02:13] <ehird> Jucato, cpk1: AMD sempron 3100+. no laughs please :p
[02:13] <SHRIKEE> sempron
[02:13] <SHRIKEE> pfft :D
[02:13] <Jucato> ehird: mine is even slower
[02:14] <ehird> not my choice D:
[02:14] <Jucato> sempron 2200
[02:14] <SHRIKEE> :P
[02:14] <cpk1> didnt know amd throttled
[02:14] <ehird> meh. it runs doom 1, so hah!!
[02:14] <myesterious> If i want to get the version of some package = debian , Can i download and use that packapge and its dependencies from debian packages site ?
[02:14] <SHRIKEE> amd can throttle with cool 'n quiet
[02:14] <SHRIKEE> i had that in windows
[02:14] <SHRIKEE> and i hated it :(
[02:14] <Kabal> Jucato: Thanx for the quick search :)  6 is not much.. but it's one more than default.
[02:14] <Kabal> but why only 6 .. doesn't make sense to me.. but anyway that man :)
[02:14] <xsacha> my amd laptop has throttling
[02:14] <Jucato> Kabal: you found it?
[02:14] <ehird> SHRIKEE: where would this power management be
[02:14] <ehird> i would like to disable the silly limiting :D
[02:14] <Kabal> Jucato:  jup :)
[02:14] <Jucato> KInfoCenter reports my GHz correctly
[02:14] <cpk1> ehird: if you want you can disable acpi at boot
[02:14] <SHRIKEE> in system settings
[02:15] <Jucato> Kabal: I'm presuming you're running a default Kubuntu installation right? Dapper or Edgy?
[02:15] <SHRIKEE> can anyone help me out with my wlan?
[02:15] <ehird> cpk1: would this be dangerous :P
[02:15] <SHRIKEE> no, ehird
[02:15] <Jucato> myesterious: it's is not good to mix and match packages from different repositories/distributions
[02:15] <ehird> SHRIKEE: i can't see power management in system settings..
[02:15] <SHRIKEE> im on a laptop so for me its called different i think
[02:16] <Kabal> Jucato: jup Dapper
[02:16] <Jucato> ehird: what is the model of the processor that KInfoCenter reports? you gave the model name. maybe the model number will give you a clue if it's 64-bit
[02:17] <Kabal> Jucato: for quite a while now.. and it's running great'
[02:17] <ehird> Jucato: it isn't 64bit. it's an AMD sempron 3100+, i'm repeating myself myself here here :p
[02:18] <SHRIKEE> ...
[02:18] <ehird> !!!
[02:19] <SHRIKEE> my wifi still wont work... :P
[02:19] <SHRIKEE> *hint*
[02:19] <rhodri> hi, my screen goes blank after 10 minutes of activity, but as far as i can tell my screensaver is off and i can't find any power settings that are effecting this?  it's annoying the hell out of me, can anyone help?!?!  thanks.
[02:19] <xsacha> hey what's the power manager thing if you arent using a laptop? if i try to run guidance it says "no laptop found"
[02:19] <cpk1> !work
[02:19] <ubotu> Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[02:20] <cpk1> SHRIKEE: whats wrong with it? =)
[02:20] <SHRIKEE> well it worked this morning
[02:20] <ehird> oh, i never noticed the Advanced tab.
[02:20] <SHRIKEE> i was watching a movie over it
[02:20] <ehird> oops.
[02:20] <Jucato> xsacha: the one under Monitor and Display?
[02:20] <SHRIKEE> then all of the sudden it lost connection
[02:20] <SHRIKEE> and wont connect ever since
[02:20] <SHRIKEE> im using edgy
[02:20] <SHRIKEE> and wlassistant
[02:20] <SHRIKEE> which worked fine for a week
[02:20] <cpk1> does iwlist scan show you network still?
[02:20] <ehird> but no power settings.
[02:21] <SHRIKEE> yes it scans everything
[02:21] <SHRIKEE> but when i try to connect it fails
[02:21] <SHRIKEE> no errors are given :(
[02:21] <xsacha> Jucato: which one in monitor & display? i heard someone say to run the power manager or something before and it shows info on your processors?
[02:22] <shadowhywind> hay all, i was wondering whats the difference between teh DVD and the CD version?>
[02:22] <Jucato> ah that I wouldn't know... never got that kind of power manager working...
[02:22] <SHRIKEE> dvd version should go on a dvd
[02:22] <SHRIKEE> duh :)
[02:22] <cpk1> dvd version has the live and alternate install
[02:22] <shadowhywind> i know that, silly.
[02:22] <cpk1> and a bunch of repos I think
[02:22] <Jucato> shadowhywind: DVD is a Live DVD with an alternative text based installer, plus everything in main and restricted. and I guess some universe stuff too
[02:22] <SHRIKEE> ^^
[02:22] <SHRIKEE> anyway, cpk1, got any idea?
[02:23] <shadowhywind> would the DVD have linux headers installed?
[02:23] <cpk1> nuke wlassistant and do it the old fashioned way? =P
[02:23] <cpk1> i dont really know, is it a native driver?
[02:23] <SHRIKEE> i need profiles :(
[02:23] <SHRIKEE> its a ipw2200 i think?
[02:23] <cpk1> my ndiswrapper can get cranky sometimes
[02:23] <shadowhywind> EEVVVIIILLLL!!!!!! ipw2200
[02:24] <SHRIKEE> shush you, shadowhywind
[02:24] <shadowhywind> i get to reset one of those up this weekend
[02:24] <SHRIKEE> its a intel 11g card
[02:24] <ehird> what's an easy way to restart kde without restarting linux? need to test my login screen
[02:24] <SHRIKEE> in my laptop
[02:24] <cpk1> ehird: you could actually just start another session
[02:24] <shadowhywind> ehird control + alt + backspace
[02:24] <shadowhywind> will restart X
[02:24] <cpk1> you wouldnt even have to stop your current session
[02:25] <ehird> shadowhywind: but won't give me the login screen.
[02:25] <cpk1> and that is not the nice way of doing it shadowhywind
[02:25] <shadowhywind> oh poo! your right, sorry ehird
[02:25] <SHRIKEE> ..
[02:26] <ehird> maybe there's a command to like "logout, butstartagraphicalloginscreenagain". So, logout and restart X
[02:26] <ehird> me no likey restarting :(
[02:26] <cpk1> ehird: did you pay attention to anything I said?
[02:26] <SHRIKEE> ehird, theres this button to test your login screen
[02:26] <Jucato> ehird: do what cpk1 suggested
[02:26] <SHRIKEE> in the thing where you select which screen to use
[02:26] <ehird> cpk: i didn't see :p
[02:26] <ehird> SHRIKEE: yes, but i need to see the entire bootup process
[02:26] <SHRIKEE> hmm k
[02:27] <cpk1> well I suppose not seeing is better than not paying attention =P
[02:27] <shadowhywind> shrikee, your having issues with your wireless? and WPA i take it?
[02:27] <SHRIKEE> wep
[02:27] <SHRIKEE> not all clients here support wpa
[02:27] <SHRIKEE> it worked fine till 2 hours ago
[02:27] <shadowhywind> werid, hehe
[02:27] <SHRIKEE> yes
[02:27] <SHRIKEE> :S
[02:29] <ehird> so, no way?
 ehird: you could actually just start another session
[02:29] <Jucato> grr
[02:29] <cpk1> ehird: what do you mean "entire boot up process"?
[02:29] <ehird> cpk: from login screen to KDE splash, etc.
[02:29] <ehird> I should just restart. shouldn't I. :P
[02:29] <SHRIKEE> yes restart and get over with it
[02:29] <Jucato> ehird: K Menu -> Switch User to test a new KDM theme
[02:30] <cpk1> ehird: go to kmenu > switch user > lock current & start new session
[02:30] <Jucato> ehird: you can test Splash Screens by pressing the "Test" button
[02:30] <cpk1> ehird: then press ctrl alt f8 if it doesnt automatically switch you to tty8
[02:31] <SHRIKEE> wicked, now wlassistant tells me that im connected
[02:31] <SHRIKEE> bt i get no ip
[02:31] <SHRIKEE> that would suggest the dhcp is screwed, but other computers get an address just fine
[02:31] <SHRIKEE> *sigh*
[02:31] <cpk1> SHRIKEE: run dhclient
[02:32] <SHRIKEE> in konsole?
[02:32] <cpk1> yup
[02:32] <universi> Appears "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth2: link is not ready" in dmesg... HELP!
[02:32] <SHRIKEE> !pastebin
[02:32] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:33] <SHRIKEE> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30021/
[02:33] <SHRIKEE> wth does that mean
[02:33] <cpk1> that means use sudo silly
[02:33] <SHRIKEE> ...
[02:34] <SHRIKEE> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30022/
[02:34] <SHRIKEE> retry :P
[02:34] <SuperSub> anyone know how to install quicktime browser plugins for Firefox????
[02:34] <cpk1> now you have an ip =)
[02:34] <cpk1> oh wait now
[02:34] <SHRIKEE> i dont
[02:34] <cpk1> try dhclient wlan0
[02:34] <SHRIKEE> thats my wired card
[02:34] <the_man_stephen> hi, someone told me that Kubuntu Edgy now supported read/write to ntfs. is this true?
[02:35] <SHRIKEE> eth0 is a wired card
[02:35] <SHRIKEE> eth1 is wireless
[02:35] <cpk1> ok then dhclient eth1
[02:36] <cpk1> i dont actually know if thats an argument though
[02:36] <SHRIKEE> *tries*
[02:36] <SHRIKEE> bound to 192.168.0.74 -- renewal in 17728 seconds.
[02:36] <SHRIKEE> thats the address i usual get
[02:36] <SHRIKEE> ...
[02:37] <SuperSub> anyone know how to install quicktime browser plugins for Firefox????
[02:37] <cpk1> ping -I eth1 google.com (i think)
[02:37] <SuperSub> anyone anyone???
[02:38] <cpk1> thats a capital i
[02:38] <SHRIKEE> shrikee@shrikee-laptop:~$ ping -I eth1 google.com
[02:38] <SHRIKEE> PING google.com (72.14.207.99) from 192.168.0.74 eth1: 56(84) bytes of data.
[02:38] <SHRIKEE> 64 bytes from 72.14.207.99: icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=100 ms
[02:38] <SHRIKEE> 64 bytes from 72.14.207.99: icmp_seq=2 ttl=240 time=101 ms
[02:38] <SHRIKEE> seems to work
[02:38] <SHRIKEE> wth :o
[02:38] <larson9999> the_man_stephen: i've been read/writing to ntfs for a long time and haven't had any issues.  seems to be a rift between those who think it's rock solid and those who think it's very dangerous
[02:38] <SHRIKEE> *yanks the cable out*
[02:39] <the_man_stephen> cheers larson9999
[02:39] <cpk1> SHRIKEE: hrmm well thats one way of testing for sure
[02:39] <cpk1> and he's dead =)
[02:40] <SHRIKEE> still here?
[02:40] <SHRIKEE> :o
[02:40] <larson9999> the_man_stephen: don't forget the backup :)
[02:41] <the_man_stephen> of course ;)
[02:41] <the_man_stephen> well its nice to have some reassurance that it works, everyone seems to play it down
[02:49] <SHRIKEE> well, that didnt work :S
[02:49] <SHRIKEE> dammit
[02:52] <Crembo> hey, does anyone know if there's some DSP plugin for Amarok that lets you use windows winamp plugin dll's?
[02:53] <cpk1> err what for?
[02:53] <cpk1> but try #amarok
[02:53] <Crembo> well, I have a favourite DSP plugin in winamp that I want to bring over into linux :)
[02:57] <SHRIKEE> i still cant connect
[02:57] <SHRIKEE> i still get no address :S
[03:00] <minterior> hi
[03:00] <minterior> exist an amarok about channel?
[03:01] <cpk1> SHRIKEE: sudo ifdown eth1
[03:01] <SHRIKEE> what does that do
[03:02] <crazy_penguin> hi all!
[03:02] <cpk1> SHRIKEE: sudo ifconfig 192.168.0.74 eth1 up
[03:02] <cpk1> might be wrong syntax though
[03:03] <cpk1> SHRIKEE: ifdown brings an interface down
[03:05] <cpk1> SHRIKEE: you get anything I said?
[03:05] <crazy_penguin> i'm upgrading from kde 3.5.3 to 3.5.5 on dapper and at one point dpkg announces me that i have the following dependency problem "kdelibs-bin: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you request: kdelibs4c2a depends on kdelibs-bin (= 4:3.5.3-0ubuntu0.2)"
[03:05] <SHRIKEE> nope
[03:05] <alexicon> ok kubuntu firefox is driving me crazy
[03:05] <SHRIKEE> only the ifdown thing
[03:05] <cpk1> SHRIKEE: ifdown brings an interface down
[03:06] <SHRIKEE> i noticed :(
[03:06] <SHRIKEE> i re-enabled it
[03:06] <SHRIKEE> but it made no difference
[03:06] <alexicon> ive installed this dapper kubuntu at least 4 times in the same months.. everytime i install firefox through adept i cannot middle click a link into the page to have it load. i always have to paste into the address bar >_<
[03:06] <SHRIKEE> i had tried that before, btw
[03:06] <alexicon> if i install firefox from their site, i can middle click anywhere on a page and a link will load..
[03:06] <cpk1> SHRIKEE: sudo ifdown eth1 shouldnt disconnect your wired
[03:07] <SHRIKEE> i dont get it, everything says im connected... but it wont transmit
[03:07] <BluesKaj> Howdy All !
[03:07] <crazy_penguin> could someone tell me if that dependency problem is a true or false?
[03:07] <SHRIKEE> i know that cpk1
[03:07] <cpk1> did you turn encryption off to test to make sure thats not the problem?
[03:07] <SHRIKEE> yes
[03:07] <Jucato> crazy_penguin: that's normal
[03:07] <SHRIKEE> and my mum who is on the same ap, has no problems
[03:07] <SHRIKEE> shes on windows xp home
[03:07] <Jucato> crazy_penguin: you need to use dist-upgrade
[03:07] <crazy_penguin> yes
[03:08] <SHRIKEE> can it be some packet overload?
[03:08] <crazy_penguin> but i was wondering if i broke or not the system
[03:08] <minterior> exists an amarok about channel?
[03:08] <crazy_penguin> because of this dependecy problem
[03:08] <cpk1> minterior: #amarok
[03:08] <crazy_penguin> Jucato: i used dist-upgrade from the start
[03:08] <minterior> cpk1: thx
[03:09] <BluesKaj> !amarok
[03:09] <ubotu> amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[03:09] <Jucato> crazy_penguin: no it did not break. kdelibs-bin was replaced by kdelibs4c2a
[03:09] <cpk1> that needs to be updated
[03:09] <SHRIKEE> cpk1, got any more ideas?
[03:09] <cpk1> latest version is 1.4.4
[03:10] <cpk1> SHRIKEE: get another ip from the router again with dhclient and then see if another box can ping it
[03:11] <crazy_penguin> Jucato: so i didn't make a mistake. (i took a look at that package before i install it and it seemed to be the replacement of kdelibs) but like i said earlier i wanted to be sure. thx Jucato for reassuring me:)
[03:11] <SHRIKEE> seems to work
[03:11] <SHRIKEE> just like 10 minuets ago
[03:11] <Jucato> !amarok | cpk1
[03:11] <ubotu> cpk1: amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org
[03:11] <B-Minus> anyone using xmame ?
[03:12] <Chanika> anyone here know how to use chinput? or know of something else that'll let me type chinese characters?
[03:12] <Jucato> cpk1: done :)
[03:12] <cpk1> well imbrandon said he would get around to the dapper package when he had time too =)
[03:13] <cpk1> Jucato: so expect to update it again sometime soon =P
[03:13] <Jucato> cpk1: well until that time comes, I don't want to get Dapper users' hopes up :P
[03:13] <cpk1> well kubuntu.org already does that heh
[03:13] <Jucato> if it doesn't happen, I don't want to be the one to be burned alive :P
[03:13] <cpk1> haha
[03:14] <cpk1> i wonder if the 1.4.4 source is avaible for dapper?
[03:14] <CPUFreak91> Hi, I have two sound cards. An internal Via AC '97 and PCI a C-Media 8738. For some reason Edgy always tries to use the internal VIA AC '97 sound card, but I want it to use the PCI Cmedia version.
[03:14] <cpk1> probably not i guess
[03:14] <SHRIKEE> 1.4.4 isnt even available for edgy
[03:14] <SHRIKEE> i tried yesterday
[03:14] <BluesKaj> yeah cpk1, just upgraded amarok to 1.4.4 in adept
[03:15] <CPUFreak91> How can I keep the VIA soundcard kernel module from loading?
[03:15] <cpk1> probably need backports SHRIKEE
[03:15] <SHRIKEE> cpk1, i can ping anything i want, but nothing else works
[03:15] <BluesKaj> in edgy
[03:15] <Jucato> SHRIKEE: it is
[03:15] <cpk1> BluesKaj: on dapper here =P
[03:15] <BluesKaj> ok
[03:15] <SHRIKEE> so i think the problem is not the wifi itself, but something on this laptop
[03:15] <BluesKaj> SHRIKEE, it's available now
[03:16] <SHRIKEE> adept says 1.4.3 is the newest here
[03:16] <Jucato> on Edgy 1.4.4 is the newest
[03:16] <SHRIKEE> im on edgy
[03:16] <Jucato> SHRIKEE: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.4.php
[03:16] <cpk1> do you have backports? on dapper you needed backports for amarok
[03:16] <SHRIKEE> yes i know
[03:17] <SHRIKEE> i dunno
[03:17] <SHRIKEE> 1.4.3 works fine for me
[03:17] <Jucato> cpk1: well, edgy-backports don't exist yet afaik
[03:17] <SHRIKEE> i just want my wifi back ;)
[03:18] <SHRIKEE> cpk1, i can ping
[03:18] <SHRIKEE> but nothing else
[03:18] <BluesKaj> Jucato, what's the "official" Edgy source list ?
[03:18] <Chanika> does anyone know where I would look for info on typing chinese? google's not helping. the chinput faq is a blank frigging page...
[03:19] <Jucato> BluesKaj: the default one that is installed?
[03:19] <BluesKaj> yeah , I guess so , ...i got mine from jende so it's got a few xtras
[03:20] <Jucato> BluesKaj: hehe I made this specially for such questions: wiki.kubuntu.org/Jucato
[03:21] <cpk1> SHRIKEE: sorry but I am a bit stumped seeing as it is communicating, and I need to go to bed
[03:21] <SHRIKEE> right
[03:21] <SHRIKEE> well thanks anyway, for your time :)
[03:21] <SHRIKEE> hahaha
[03:21] <cpk1> no problem
[03:21] <Jucato> I have no knowledge of anything wireless
[03:21] <SHRIKEE> sleep well, cpk1
[03:21] <Chanika> and when I try to run chinput I get this:
[03:21] <Chanika> chinput: Chinput.ad not found.
[03:22] <SHRIKEE> i'll just stick to the cable for now
[03:22] <Chanika> oh, how odd...
[03:22] <Chanika> chani@doozer:~$ ls /etc/Chinput*
[03:22] <Chanika> /etc/Chinput.ad.dpkg-new
[03:23] <BluesKaj> Jucato, uncommenting is merely removing the # from the beginning of the line ?
[03:23] <Jucato> yes
[03:24] <BluesKaj> ok thx
[03:29] <Chanika> blah
[03:29] <Chanika> now I get this error: Basic: Cannot open font -*-*-*-*-*--16-*-*-*-*-*-big5-0
[03:31] <alexicon> im a bit worried about my machine.. whenever i boot now it takes it like 3-5 minutes to get grub up and start spinning disks
[03:35] <BluesKaj> hmmm some of imbrandon's sources are 404'd  such as: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/edgy/-seveas/source/Sources.gz
[03:35] <Seveas> it's edgy-seveas, not edgy/-seveas
[03:36] <dude> jucato !
[03:36] <Jucato> hi Seveas! thanks for your Flash 9 package :)
[03:36] <dude> hello guys
[03:36] <Jucato> hi dude! :)
[03:37] <dude> jucato: how's your day?
[03:37] <Jucato> fine, fine :)
[03:38] <dude> jucato: ok, cool
[03:38] <nickste> What is the name of the desktop widget that embeds itself into the desktop and displays things such as CPU usage, etc.
[03:38] <wilman> i have a logitech quickcam. but it only shows bleu screen
[03:39] <nickste> got it: SuperKaramba
[03:40] <BluesKaj> komba2 is listed in lost & found in the k-menu ... is this right ?
[03:42] <CPUFreak91> How can I keep a kernel module from loading?
[03:43] <CPUFreak91> (On Edgy Eft)
[03:43] <SHRIKEE> bah!
[03:43] <SHRIKEE> stupid thing
[03:43] <Harko> hi
[03:43] <kimmern> Hey! I've got a really annoying problem here..my fan goes on for about 2 sec..pause 2 sec..runs 2 sec..and so on..never experienced this before..I'm going to throw my laptop out the window soon, cause this makes me really angry to listen to..use a FS amilo L1300..any suggestions?
[03:44] <Harko> installing kubuntu is easy?
[03:46] <kimmern> are there any places I can check the temprature of my laptop?
[03:46] <kimmern> use kubuntu edgy..
[03:48] <Mehercle> ye
[03:48] <Mehercle> s
[03:49] <Mehercle> install ksensord
[03:49] <Mehercle> ksensors
[03:51] <malegria> hi. trying to see a real media movie (.rm) i always get an error message that cook.so couldnt be found. ideas? i installed a whole bunch of codecs before. using kubuntu edgy eft
[03:55] <BluesKaj> the obvious question is, do you have realmedia for linux installed?
[03:55] <malegria> do you mean realplayer?
[03:55] <BluesKaj> yup
[03:56] <malegria> nope, i added deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main to my repositories but couldnt find it
[03:56] <Jucato> malegria: that is basically empty.
[03:57] <malegria> ?
[03:57] <Jucato> I can play .rmvb files in Kaffeine. not sure if I can play .rm files too
[03:57] <Jucato> all I have are libxine-extracodecs and w32codecs installed
[03:57] <Jucato> malegria: the edgy-commercial repository is empty. practically non-existent
[03:58] <malegria> Jucato: i have those codecs installed too
[03:58] <malegria> how do i install real player then?
[03:58] <BluesKaj> i prooly got it from a non free or backport source ...dunno which one tho
[03:58] <malegria> can i use the dapper rep?
[03:58] <Jucato> BluesKaj: on Edgy?
[03:59] <Trist_an> hello
[03:59] <BluesKaj> no, origianally in dapper
[03:59] <Trist_an> I cannot find the ACPI gui in Edgy
[03:59] <Jucato> yeah, but I think malegria is on Edgy.
[03:59] <malegria> yep
[03:59] <Trist_an> In Dapper i had with kcontrol
[03:59] <Jucato> no problem with dapper-commercial
[03:59] <Trist_an> but I cannot find it here there
[03:59] <BluesKaj> i'm on edgy now
[03:59] <Jucato> Trist_an: have you tried running KControl?
[04:00] <Trist_an> Jucato, yes and it's not there
[04:00] <Jucato> hm...
[04:00] <Trist_an> Jucato, I have the small icon for my battery status in the taskbar but there is no great thing to do there exept suspend, hibernate...
[04:01] <Jucato> I don't know about that.. :(
[04:01] <Jucato> never played with any power-related thing...
[04:03] <BluesKaj> malegria , I'll post a list of some backport sources in pastebin that may contain realplayer ...you can add those to your sources list and see if they work
[04:04] <malegria> BluesKaj: i just installed it from the dapper rep
[04:04] <malegria> thanks!
[04:04] <BluesKaj> cool
[04:05] <malegria> but i just get a black screen watching the video :(
[04:08] <malegria> any ideas why i cant see the video?
[04:08] <Sharketor> malegria: whats your problem?
[04:09] <malegria> black video watching a .rm-file with realplayer
[04:11] <Sharketor> is the file good? Have you tried on another pc?
[04:12] <malegria> i tried another file. same
[04:14] <Sharketor> wait
[04:14] <BluesKaj> too bad edgy doesn't have the latest flashplayer installed ...can't watch any youtube :(
[04:14] <d4d3> hi all
[04:15] <Sharketor> I can't solve your problem, sorry
[04:16] <malegria> ok
[04:16] <malegria> Blues
[04:16] <malegria> oops
[04:16] <Sharketor> malegria: have you seen .rm files before?
[04:16] <malegria> not on this system
[04:16] <malegria> its new
[04:16] <malegria> BluesKaj: have you tried Flash 9 Beta?
[04:17] <malegria> http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[04:18] <d4d3> i have a problem
[04:19] <d4d3> it's the first time that i use irc
[04:19] <Sharketor> malegria: have you installed libstc++5?
[04:19] <malegria> Sharketor: yes
[04:19] <d4d3> and i wanna know what i have to do for updating my irc server list
[04:19] <Jucato> !flash 9 | BluesKaj
[04:19] <ubotu> BluesKaj: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[04:19] <Sharketor> what is real player version?
[04:20] <malegria> 10.0.8.805
[04:21] <stamen> !flac
[04:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:21] <Sharketor> have you downloaded it from repo?
[04:21] <d4d3> !flac
[04:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:22] <malegria> Sharketor: did you mean libstdc++5?
[04:22] <Sharketor> no, realplayer
[04:22] <alexicon> ok
[04:22] <malegria> Sharketor: yes, dapper-commercial main
[04:23] <alexicon> can anyone fathom a guess as to why in both dapper and edgy when i try to enable the nvidia-glx drivers, X wont start at all
[04:23] <Sharketor> well, try to download it from official site
[04:23] <malegria> Sharketor: i meant before. you wrote libstc++5
[04:23] <Sharketor> malegria: libstdc++5
[04:23] <d4d3> d
[04:23] <Jucato> alexicon: did you install the correct linux-restricted-modules ?
[04:24] <malegria> Sharketor: yep, installed.
[04:24] <malegria> where do i get the "official" one?
[04:24] <BluesKaj> Jucato, I'm using edgy and i have imbrandon's pkgs in my sources list thx
[04:25] <Jucato> :)
[04:25] <Jucato> well it's not imbrandon's package. it's Seveas'. imbrandon's hosting it :)
[04:25] <wilman> how to login as roto?
[04:25] <wilman> root
[04:26] <alexicon> oops will check that again Jucato
[04:26] <D4d3> prova
[04:26] <Jucato> wilman: why do you need to login as root?
[04:26] <wilman> to instal nvidia driver
[04:27] <Jucato> wilman: you don't need to. just use sudo, like "sudo <command>"
[04:27] <alexicon> is there a way to start up X from the commandline?
[04:27] <Jucato> alexicon: startx ?
[04:27] <wilman> oo thx
[04:27] <Jucato> !nvidia | wilman
[04:27] <ubotu> wilman: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:28] <basstich> can someone help me to turn off all the annoying sounds when you open and close windows??
[04:28] <wilman> go to system settings
[04:28] <wilman> then
[04:28] <wilman> notifications
[04:28] <basstich> wilman - I did - and only left kde start and exit - and the dang stuff still sounds
[04:28] <wilman> i see the faq and i already tryed that
[04:29] <basstich> do I have to restart x?
[04:29] <Jucato> basstich: there's a drop-down list at the top of that settings window
[04:29] <Sharketor> malegria: http://www.real.com/linux
[04:30] <Jucato> basstich: you only set the KDE System Notifications, not the KDE Window Manager notifications
[04:30] <wilman> a window closes
[04:30] <basstich> jucato  where do I do that?
[04:30] <Jucato> basstich: System Settings -> Notifications
[04:30] <Jucato> there's a drop-down list at the top, where you can choose the "Event source:"
[04:30] <basstich> looking now
[04:30] <wilman> system notification - (choose: the kde window manager ) - a window closes
[04:31] <wilman> then click on the tiny sound button
[04:31] <alexicon> Jucato: should i get the -386 or -generic version of linux-restricted-modules
[04:31] <Jucato> alexicon: depends on what kernel you are using right now
[04:31] <alexicon> im an i686 so generic?
[04:31] <alexicon> oh yeah generic
[04:31] <alexicon> oh yeah gelol
[04:31] <alexicon> sorry
[04:31] <alexicon> soi se
[04:32] <Jucato> alexicon: use "uname -r" to check
[04:32] <alexicon> e it there in the uname now
[04:32] <basstich> jucato - ok - I have notifications open - where is this drop down list
[04:32] <Jucato> basstich: at the top. the one beside "Even source:"
[04:32] <wilman> ok
[04:32] <basstich> I see the event source
[04:32] <wilman> are you in the  system notification screen?
[04:32] <basstich> and in that box
[04:32] <Jucato> basstich: click it so that it will go down
[04:32] <basstich> is KDE system notifications
[04:33] <basstich> is that the menu?
[04:33] <wilman> that list
[04:33] <Jucato> it's called a drop-down list
[04:33] <basstich> yes... change that to what?
[04:33] <Jucato> KDE Window Manager
[04:33] <basstich> eureka, even
[04:34] <wilman> anyway
[04:35] <wilman> i want to install the nvidia driver. and i have looked through the faq.
[04:35] <blacksh33p> hiho zusammen
[04:35] <wilman> i dont understand how i can get repositories to copyright restricted-copyright
[04:36] <wilman> there is no such button in my synaptic package
[04:36] <blacksh33p> mit hats mein adept bzw apt-get zerhaun. hat jemand zeit vllt evtl sich mein problem an zu hren :)? find inx beim googlen
[04:36] <Jucato> wilman: if you can install linux-restricted-modules-generic already, then you're ok
[04:36] <basstich> Thanks guys
[04:36] <Jucato> !de
[04:36] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:36] <blacksh33p> thx
[04:36] <basstich> c ya later.. first time using linux - and I think winders has a huge new competitor.... MAN KDE is NICE
[04:37] <basstich> .... now I'll have to figure out how to get some games working - why aren't there many games... oh well...
[04:43] <alexicon> ok that was weird
[04:43] <alexicon> this is weirder still
[04:43] <alexicon> x has no been configured properly
[04:43] <alexicon> all this time it wouldnt start up cos the device was named wrong
[04:43] <alexicon> the BusID was completely wrong
[04:44] <alexicon> and all the monitor settings are wrong
[04:44] <alexicon> stuff like max res is wrong
[04:46] <alexicon> yeah and it didnt figure out what my graphics card was either :/
[04:48] <WooD> hi 1
[04:49] <WooD> is there any software that can log the pppoe connection ?
[04:52] <nnn0> isn't there something called ppoe-sniff ?
[04:52] <nnn0> pppoe-sniff even
[04:55] <WooD> nnn0: thanks ill check
[04:55] <nnn0> never tried it though :)
[04:57] <nnn0> hmmaybe that wasn't what you were after
[05:01] <buz> why does k3b not actually burn dvd with 8x if i tell it to?
[05:01] <buz> will burn at anything from 5 to 8x which isnt good for the media at all
[05:14] <etnies> a
[05:15] <Marc_> is there any advantage to installing kubuntu over installing ubuntu and then just using synaptic to install kde
[05:15] <etnies> hello guys can someone connect with putty on my server ? : etnies.shell.la port 22 ssh ?
[05:16] <etnies> or they are getting an error on connection ?
[05:16] <Jucato> Marc_: smaller/cleaner system
[05:16] <Marc_> hmm
[05:16] <Marc_> ok
[05:16] <etnies> can someone connect ? :\
[05:16] <Marc_> i just dl'd the ubuntu install last night
[05:17] <Marc_> i guess i'll dl the kubuntu
[05:17] <ketsugi> Why is SpeedCrunch the default calculator app for Kubuntu when it doesn't even seem to be a Qt app? Why not Kcalc?
[05:17] <Jucato> ketsugi: what makes you say it's not a Qt app?
[05:18] <BluesKaj> Flash 9 won't install in FF2.0 plugin ...any suggestions ?
[05:18] <ketsugi> It looks like a Gtk1 app
[05:18] <Hawkwind> !flash9
[05:18] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:18] <Jucato> lol
[05:18] <Jucato> that's your only reason? :)
[05:18] <ketsugi> Well
[05:18] <BluesKaj> I have it DL'd it just won't install
[05:18] <ketsugi> it's not using my themed Qt widgets!
[05:19] <Jucato> ??
[05:19] <ketsugi> It looks ugly
[05:19] <ketsugi> therefore it can't be a KDE app
[05:19] <ketsugi> :P
[05:19] <Jucato> ketsugi: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=16696 http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=16696
[05:19] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: You don't download it.  Add the repo and apt-get install it
[05:20] <BluesKaj> it doesn't show up in the apt-get
[05:20] <ketsugi> Jucato, look at this
[05:20] <ketsugi> Tell me if that looks anything like a Qt app
[05:21] <ketsugi> other than a Qt app themed to look like Gtk1 :p
[05:21] <Jucato> ketsugi: I'm not sure what's wrong. but Speedcrunch is definitely a KDE app
[05:21] <ketsugi> Highly peculiar, then
[05:21] <ketsugi> I hope there's a way to fix it
[05:21] <ketsugi> those widgets make me want to claw my eyes out
[05:21] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: Add that repo above, and then sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree_9
[05:22] <Jucato> see that "Clear field" button? (black arrow with X)? that's a KDE/Qt widget
[05:22] <ketsugi> yeah
[05:22] <ketsugi> that's the only one, though
[05:23] <Jucato> the fact doesn't change. Speedcrunch, despite having no "K", is a KDE app :)
[05:23] <xsacha> ah, i was just looking for a calculator too :)
[05:23] <ketsugi> SpeedKrunch, dammit :)
[05:24] <xsacha> Krunchy
[05:24] <davids> hi everybody
[05:24] <BluesKaj> Couldn't find package flashplugin-nonfree_9
[05:25] <davids> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/69665 can anybody help me?
[05:25] <sheriff> does anyone use ktorrent?
[05:25] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: apt-cache search flashplugin-nonfree
[05:26] <segfault> BluesKaj, i dont think flashplugin-nonfree is flash 9 beta
[05:26] <trappist> it's not
[05:26] <Hawkwind> segfault: If he has Seveas' repo it is
[05:26] <BluesKaj> weird I found in adept but not apt-get
[05:26] <Jucato> it is
[05:26] <davids> yeah, if you want flash 9 you must download it from adobe web
[05:27] <Jucato> !flash 9
[05:27] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:27] <Hawkwind> Seveas packages it and has since it got released
[05:27] <Hawkwind> davids: Not true at all actually
[05:27] <Hawkwind> It's in deb format for both Dapper and Edgy
[05:28] <xsacha> :( filelight crashing
[05:28] <Jucato> xsacha: crash on exit?
[05:28] <xsacha> yes
[05:29] <Jucato> known bug :)
[05:29] <Jucato> harmless, but annoying
[05:29] <xsacha> ya
[05:30] <davids> ok guys, i have an strange bug in nautilus. i have reported here https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/69665 . can anybody tell me if you have this in your kubuntus/ubuntus/etc?
[05:30] <Jucato> ???
[05:30] <xsacha> well we dont have nautilus in kubuntu..
[05:30] <mac_> nautilus?  yuck
[05:30] <Hawkwind> Nautilus is gnome, most here use KDE stuff, like konqueror/krusader
[05:30] <davids> oh i'm sorry
[05:30] <davids> thanks anyway
[05:31] <mac_> or Thunar!
[05:31] <Hawkwind> Thunar is Xubuntu, which would be #Xubuntu :P
[05:31] <mac_> yeah, but i use it anyway.
[05:32] <Jucato> mac_: try dolphin?
[05:32] <ketsugi> What is Krusader?
[05:32] <Jucato> ketsugi: a twin-pane file manager for KDE
[05:32] <ketsugi> And is there a way to set Dolphin or some other file manager as the default file manager instead of Konqueror?
[05:33] <mac_> Jucato, i haven't
[05:33] <Jucato> hm.. that I wouldn't know...
[05:33] <xsacha> ok im reinstalling a dozen mesa/gllib related files
[05:33] <davids> frankly, i have asked here because i can't speak normally in #ubuntu... there are too many people. but i didn't remember kubuntu uses konqueror! haha
[05:33] <xsacha> for some reason emerald broke and it isnt xorg.conf or beryl/emerald's fault
[05:33] <Jucato> Kubuntu also uses KDE :P
[05:33] <ketsugi> There's not much point in installing a new file manager if KDE insists on using Konqueror by default all the time
[05:33] <thomas_> hey all
[05:34] <thomas_> is there any howto on the web for aiglx and co. that actually works?
[05:34] <Jucato> there might be a way, just not sure how
[05:34] <Jucato> but does any OS/DE allow the default file manager to be changed easily? :P
[05:34] <fdoving> ketsugi: yes, you can.
[05:34] <ketsugi> Surely Linux is about choice
[05:34] <ketsugi> fdoving: how?
[05:35] <xsacha> dolphin :D
[05:35] <fdoving> just wait till i find the right way of doing it, with system settings.
[05:35] <xsacha> k
[05:35] <Jucato> heheh
[05:36] <fdoving> can't find it.. anyway.
[05:37] <Jucato> fdoving: in KControl at least?
[05:37] <fdoving> ketsugi, jucato: you basically have to set the fileassociation for inode/directory to use dolphin.
[05:37] <Jucato> fdoving: that would be in Konqueror's settings then :)
[05:37] <mac_>  i didn't think kde even had 'filemanager' as a default app.  there's a default webbrowser, email client, etc.  but i don't filemanager as a type of app that gets defaulted
[05:37] <fdoving> ketsugi, jucato: kmenu -> run command -> 'kcmshell filetypes'
[05:38] <Jucato> fdoving: Konqueror -> Settings menu -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations
[05:38] <xsacha> KDE components->File Associations
[05:38] <xsacha> in kcontrol
[05:38] <Jucato> xsacha: well, normally kcontrol isnt' there :P
[05:38] <fdoving> it's just not in system settings.
[05:38] <mac_> yeah but doesn't that set if for each type of file and not a generic 'file manager'?
[05:39] <fdoving> mac_: it'll be the default for opening directories.
[05:39] <ehird> using a tft, do i want the refersh rate to be the highest or the lowest it can do?
[05:39] <mac_> fdoving, gotcha
[05:39] <fdoving> kio-slaves will probably break with dolphin though.
[05:39] <ehird> the wiki on ubuntu.com says lowest, but i doubt that..
[05:39] <xsacha> go to File Associations->inode->directory-> change konqueror to something else?
[05:40] <fdoving> xsacha: yes, or add something else to the list, and move it to the top.
[05:40] <fdoving> xsacha: it's nice to leave konqueror in there, if you want to change back.
[05:41] <xsacha> it had filelight in there :)
[05:41] <mac_> what's the deal with the 'control' guis anyway?  seems edgy took some stuff out of the one that's in the start menu.  is kcontrol going to take over and be in the start menu by default going forward?
[05:41] <xsacha> keep that in
[05:41] <Jucato> fdoving: how about indoe/system_directory ?
[05:41] <ehird> and why does subpixel antialiasing show "shades" of the text like with a CRT but not in windows?
[05:41] <Jucato> mac_: no. System Settings is supposed to be a lightweight alternative to KControl
[05:41] <fdoving> Jucato: you can edit that too.. not sure what that's for though.
[05:42] <Jucato> System Settings does not supplant KControl, and is in fact very dependent on KControl modules
[05:42] <xsacha> what about the File Manager tab? no matter what i do in file Associations, konqueror is still used in File Manager tab
[05:42] <mac_> Jucato, but since it seems everything i need to change is in kcontrol, why not put it in the start menu by default?  seems funny to me
[05:42] <Jucato> xsacha: it's because that's Konqueror's settings as a file manager :P
[05:42] <ketsugi> eww
[05:43] <xsacha> mac_ kcontrol used to be in menu, i guess they are phasing it out? just need to make system settings have more in it
[05:43] <ketsugi> okay I prefer a Konqueror/Dolphin style file manager
[05:43] <Jucato> mac_: what things are those?  (Launch Feedback and Panels where inadvertedly left out)
[05:43] <ketsugi> System Settings sucks badly compared to kcontrol :/
[05:43] <Jucato> xsacha: no. KControl has never been in the K Menu since Breezy, iirc
[05:43] <ehird> =/
[05:43] <fdoving> I add the settings applet to my panel.
[05:43] <xsacha> it was in the menu, not as a link but as individual components
[05:44] <xsacha> i think a link to kcontrol was in utilities
[05:44] <Jucato> like I said, it will not, and cannot, replace KControl for the very fact that it depends on kcontrol
[05:44] <xsacha> or maybe settings
[05:44] <mac_> Jucato, i'm in xubuntu now but it just seemed like most of what i use i have to open kcontrol for.
[05:44] <Jucato> xsacha: nah. there's an option in the K Menu to put a sort of System Settings entry there
[05:44] <xsacha> Jucato: KDE from source doesnt have system settings?
[05:44] <Jucato> mac_: because 1) you're used to it and 2) it's probably not in you menu anyway
[05:45] <xsacha> i think thats what i am thinking about
[05:45] <Jucato> xsacha: I don't know. haven't tried compiling it from source yet. although it's called kde-systemsettings
[05:45] <mac_> Jucato, perhaps, i'll let you know when i get back to kde
[05:45] <Jucato> I mean compiling KDE from source
[05:45] <xsacha> well it wasnt in kde 3.5.3
[05:46] <xsacha> not in the menu anyway.. kcontrol was in the kmenu and each of the individual components of kcontrol in the kmenu
[05:46] <Jucato> mac_: most of the stuff that are not in System Settings can be found somewhere else aside from KControl. mostly in Konqueror
[05:46] <fdoving> if you feel there should be a kcontrol link in the menus, please file a bug at bugs.ubuntu.com explaining why. That's the best way.
[05:46] <Jucato> probably. I think System Settings only appeared in Breezy/KDE 3.5.4
[05:46] <Jucato> err.. sorry
[05:46] <Jucato> 3.4.3
[05:46] <xsacha> :P
[05:46] <Jucato> gah!! I'm lost :P
[05:46] <wildchild> how can I upgrade to amarok 1.4.4
[05:47] <Jucato> wildchild: on Edgy?
[05:47] <ehird> and er, why is the brown headers on ubuntuforums gray
[05:47] <wildchild> I allreaddy get key and add deb to repo
[05:47] <wildchild> jucato: yes
[05:47] <wildchild> and update
[05:47] <Jucato> wildchild: all you need to do is to update and upgrade
[05:47] <mac_> Jucato, sure, but since it's in kcontrol why not just use it by default?  it got some flaws i'm missing?
[05:47] <wildchild> ok
[05:48] <wildchild> what about oppen office
[05:48] <Jucato> mac_: some usability flaws, like groupings. interface (some like it though). mostly usability
[05:48] <Jucato> wildchild: no update available for that yet. still 2.0.4
[05:48] <wildchild> do they come with kubuntu 6.10 ?
[05:48] <mac_> Jucato, oh, seems logically laid out to me :)
[05:48] <Jucato> wildchild: yes. installed by default
[05:48] <Jucato> mac_: to you probably. because you're used to it. but some are not really logical
[05:48] <wildchild> :S
[05:48] <xsacha> systemsettings seems weird with that advanced tab and not much in it
[05:49] <wildchild> pre time of open office is too long..
[05:49] <wildchild> how can i cut it
[05:49] <Jucato> xsacha: not much advanced settings? :P
[05:49] <xsacha> :P
[05:49] <arunkale> hey people
[05:49] <Jucato> mac_: for example, why is Launch Feedback under Appearance & Themes?
[05:49] <xsacha> because it's an appearance feature
[05:49] <arunkale> how do i install firefox v2
[05:50] <Jucato> not really.
[05:50] <arunkale> it's not in the repos
[05:50] <Jucato> It's a notification
[05:50] <xsacha> it's a bouncy icon beneath your cursor, how is it not? :P
[05:50] <mac_> Jucato, because lauchfeed back is all about appearance and themes.  that's what it is actually
[05:50] <Jucato> no it's not about appearances. it's about notification
[05:50] <xsacha> the absence of the program i clicked on notifies me that im waiting for the program, not the bouncy icon :P
[05:50] <wilman> Kmenu
[05:50] <wilman> system
[05:50] <wilman> adept manager
[05:51] <Jucato> similarly, why is system notifications under Sound & Multimedia?
[05:51] <wilman> then search for firefox
[05:51] <arunkale> wilman: the repos dont have v2.0
[05:51] <xsacha> jucato, that is only sound notifications
[05:51] <Jucato> xsacha: check again
[05:51] <mac_> Jucato, pointers are traditionally part of appearance and themes as long as i can remember
[05:51] <Jucato> xsacha: there are 6 columns
[05:51] <Jucato> mac_: yes it is. doesn't mean it might be the best place to put it
[05:52] <xsacha> oh ok
[05:52] <xsacha> hehe that is confusing :P
[05:52] <arunkale> Jucato: did you figure out how to get the firefox 2 thing
[05:52] <mac_> mac_, it's the appearance of the mouse.  doesn't make sense to take it out appearance and themes either.  both would seem reasonable to me.
[05:52] <xsacha> and by default it only seems to come with sound notifications,...
[05:52] <xsacha> mac_ talking to yourself?
[05:52] <mac_> I'm talking to myself.  i meant Jucato  it's the appearance of the mouse.  doesn't make sense to take it out appearance and themes either.  both would seem reasonable to me.
[05:53] <Jucato> arunkale: the only version I was able to install from the repos is 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3
[05:53] <arunkale> Jucato: how do i do that?
[05:53] <arunkale> install that version
[05:53] <mac_> xsacha, yeah, my nick is so sweet, i like to hear myself say it
[05:53] <arunkale> right now i have 1.5 something
[05:53] <robert_> blah, why are certain applets not coming up in kcontrol?
[05:53] <xsacha> xsacha: don't know
[05:54] <Jucato> mac_: the appearance of the mouse is in the mouse settings. Launch Feedback is not about the appearance of the mouse, it's about how you are notified when an app is launching, hence the name "Launch" and "Feedback"
[05:54] <Jucato> true it's a visual notification, but a notification nonetheless
[05:54] <robert_> bah
[05:54] <Jucato> arunkale: are you on Dapper or Edgy?
[05:54] <robert_> it's the stupid locale crap again
[05:55] <wilman> anyone uses kguitar?
[05:55] <Jucato> arunkale: Fx 2.0 is still not available on Dapper, only on Edgy. it's in the main repositories of Edgy, so all you need to do is isntall it
[05:56] <fdoving> xsacha: if you feel something is wrong, or should be added/removed from system settings, please file bugs at http://bugs.ubuntu.com select package kde-systemsettings. That way they will be considered. If you have good reasons for your requests.
[05:56] <arunkale> Dapper
[05:56] <arunkale> :(
[05:56] <mac_> Jucato, splitting hairs.  a pet peeve of mine: changing things around and renaming things that have been a certain way for years for the simple sake of change.  fix real problems first, imho.  if you want to add it to notifications, fine.  by why not leave the other link?
[05:56] <xsacha> ??
[05:56] <xsacha> so systemsettings is just a ubuntu thing right? didnt think i saw it in compiled version
[05:57] <Jucato> mac_: why leave it? it's just as confusing. no one renamed Launch Feedback. System Settings is just doing what nobody bothered to do with KControl
[05:57] <Jucato> xsacha: started with Kubuntu, but it's in KDE now. but not in the main packages I think
[05:57] <mac_> Jucato, to each his own.  guess that's why i like kcontrol better :)
[05:57] <MikeT> hi
[05:58] <fdoving> xsacha:it's a application in kubuntu, in addition to the regular KDE Control Center.
[05:58] <xsacha> oh ok
[05:58] <mac_> Jucato, i think that's problem why i see more people referring people to kcontrol as well.
[05:58] <Jucato> mac_: just for the record, no one bothered touching kcontrol was because... well, no one bothered to. that's the only reason
[05:58] <arunkale> Jucato: how do i upgrade to Edgy?
[05:58] <arunkale> using adept
[05:59] <Jucato> mac_: probably. or just probably uneasy to try something new or to make a change
[05:59] <Jucato> !upgrade | arunkale
[05:59] <ubotu> arunkale: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[05:59] <arunkale> and will any involvement be required from me? as in, can i just start the process and take a nap?
[05:59] <Jucato> arunkale: don't use Adept
[05:59] <arunkale> Jucato: why not?
[05:59] <Jucato> won't work
[05:59] <arunkale> what works then?
[06:00] <Jucato> arunkale: the link that was given above
[06:00] <MikeT> so Kubuntu 6.10 x64 booted off a DVD wont initialize my HP's wireless....is there a way to get it to work, so i know its going to work when i install?
[06:00] <mariano> #suse
[06:00] <mariano> sorry
[06:00] <arunkale> Jucato: what is a console session?
[06:00] <mariano> forgot the /
[06:01] <Jucato> arunkale: Konsole
[06:01] <Jucato> console session = terminal
[06:01] <arunkale> Jucato: why do i need to press alt + n
[06:01] <neil__> hi
[06:01] <neil__> ?
[06:01] <ehird> test
[06:01] <mac_> Jucato, nah.  i like trying out new things.  don't much care to hunt in a menu for the new location of something that isn't where it should be though :)
[06:01] <neil__> hello?
[06:01] <freewill> does any one know what app i can use to see if a file is corupted?
[06:01] <arunkale> Jucato: so basically, i restart, and press alt + n at the login screen?
[06:01] <Jucato> arunkale: yes
[06:01] <neil__> ?
[06:01] <neil__> ?
[06:01] <neil__> hello?
[06:02] <freewill> neil__,
[06:02] <kenox> how to get write support for ntfs?
[06:02] <Jucato> neil__: do not spam/flood please
[06:02] <arunkale> Jucato: So it'll help to have a printout of this page :)
[06:02] <Jucato> mac_: new things need to be learned and get used to. it doesn't happen overnight, specially if you've been used to something for decades :P
[06:03] <arunkale> Jucato: how much time will the process take on a fast connection?
[06:03] <Jucato> arunkale: depends on how many stuff you have installed, how many errors you run into, etc. In short, I have no idea.
[06:03] <arunkale> Jucato: errors? ouch
[06:04] <Jucato> arunkale: if you're not ready, don't upgrade yet. it *might* be a bit bumpy
[06:04] <Jucato> *might8
[06:04] <MikeT> wheeeeeeeeee
[06:04] <arunkale> Jucato: so if anything goes wrong, will it affect my windows partition also?
[06:04] <arunkale> and/or grub?
[06:04] <Jucato> arunkale: no
[06:05] <Jucato> as for grub, the new kernel will just be added
[06:05] <arunkale> Jucato: say if something goes wrong, will i be able to use my old version of kubuntu?
[06:05] <killermach_> I'm trying to clone my laptop drive in a USB enclosure on kubuntu and partimage complains that /dev/dm is missing, I have searched the forums, no joy, does anyone know how to correct this?
[06:05] <Jucato> arunkale: no...
[06:05] <Jucato> anyway, gotta go to bed now
[06:05] <larson9999> Jucato: yeah, that's why in cases like this, i leave the link to the old way in a release or two and make notice that it's going to be changing
[06:05] <Jucato> bye
[06:05] <berkes> are any issues introduced in edgy that break power control of an IBM laptop?
[06:06] <berkes> my hibernate is fubar.
[06:06] <freewill> any one know what app i can use to see if a file is corupted? or one that can sync two files because i started my kubuntu 6.10 download in windows with winwget and i want to contenu it in dapper drake
[06:06] <arunkale> take care Jucato
[06:07] <fdoving> killermach_: make it, 'sudo mknod -m 644 /dev/dm b 240 0'
[06:07] <freewill> i can sync a file very easily with ktorrnet but there is no torrnet for the 6.10 cd...
[06:10] <killermach_> fdoving: thanks
[06:10] <BluesKaj> I've never tried 'wine" before ... How do I config ?
[06:11] <freewill> can some one read this?
[06:13] <kanenas> ciao a tutti
[06:13] <freewill> thats nice
[06:13] <kanenas> in questa chat parlate italiano?
[06:13] <fdoving> !it
[06:13] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:13] <xst> In fstab I have listed a mountpoint with the "noauto" option. But still it is being mounted automatically. It worked fine in dapper but the behavior has changed in edgy. Why is it being mounted in spite of the "noauto" option?
[06:13] <kanenas> scusate
[06:14] <KaiserSuse> Hey... I updated to the latest KDE 3.5.5, in Dapper, and now if I pop a CD in I can't get an icon for the media... what could be wrong?
[06:14] <ypsila> moin
[06:14] <freewill> any one know what app i can use to see if a file is corupted? or one that can sync two files because i started my kubuntu 6.10 download in windows with winwget and i want to contenu it in dapper drake
[06:14] <Meekus> I am sure this has been asked a ton of times.. but is there a lazy way to upgrade to 6.10 from 6.06 over the internet via maybe one command?
[06:15] <yak> hello do anyone knows a free program like vmware or paralles workstion ? i mean for free ???
[06:15] <beemer> vmware server is free if you register
[06:15] <KaiserSuse> yak: QEMU?
[06:15] <Meekus> Yes - I am lazy.. would prefer to not edit out sources.list =)
[06:16] <KaiserSuse> freewill: what's wrong with md5sum?
[06:16] <TheGateKeeper> Meekus: there is a how to on the wiki
[06:16] <Meekus> and yak- vmware server is indeed free.  Like beemer said you only need register it first
[06:16] <v3ctor> !upgrade
[06:16] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:16] <yak> KaiserSuse:  dont know is it good? did it work with winodws vista?
[06:16] <TheGateKeeper> Meekus: that is what you need to be doing ^^^^
[06:16] <Meekus> ty - I'll look it over asap =)
[06:16] <KaiserSuse> yak: did you download the .ISO file?
[06:16] <freewill> KaiserSuse; i guess i could use md5 if i knew how :P
[06:16] <beemer> yak: dunno about vista, but i've had np with 2k and a couple linux distros
[06:16] <yak> Meekus: no i think not only vmware- player is for free and you cant creat a new pc
[06:16] <nastas> hello to everyone
[06:17] <freewill> hi :-)
[06:17] <cutter> yak:  The server is now free.  You can create with it
[06:17] <yak> THEN THX to all
[06:17] <yak> itry
[06:17] <yak> cya
[06:17] <Meekus> yak, beemer: likewise - I dont know about vista compat
[06:17] <KaiserSuse> freewill: you can get the md5 digest out of the ISO in Linux or in Windows... google for md5sum windows
[06:17] <ehird> no ideas?
[06:17] <nastas> does anyone knows any data recovery software. or how to run mondo?
[06:18] <cutter> yak: I have just built 2 w2k3 servers on it.  Works a treat....Vmware not the windows :)
[06:18] <yak> lol
[06:18] <KaiserSuse> freewill: then you can compare it against the published ones
[06:18] <Meekus> lol cutter
[06:18] <cutter> hehe
[06:18] <yak> cutter: can i install it with apt-get or must i download the server version?
[06:19] <freewill> KaiserSuse; ok but it wil tell me there is a defferance because it was not completly downloaded do you know if there is a app for linux/kde that i can use that can resume downloads
[06:19] <cutter> yak:  go to the vmware site and download it.  You will need to have the kernel sources installed.  The install is quite easy
[06:19] <KaiserSuse> freewill: ah... I see... yes, wget will do resumes nicely
[06:20] <KaiserSuse> freewill: man wget
[06:20] <freewill> KaiserSuse; (downloads that i started with an other downloadmanger)
[06:20] <KaiserSuse> I updated to the latest KDE 3.5.5, in Dapper, and now if I pop a CD in I can't get an icon for the media... what could be wrong?
[06:20] <yak> cutter: thx
[06:20] <freewill> KaiserSuse; i used wget to start do download it on windows
[06:20] <lotfi> salut tout le monde
[06:20] <cutter> yak: just type ./vmware-install and follow the instructions
[06:20] <lotfi> ya kelk1 ki parle le franais
[06:20] <lotfi> !!
[06:21] <yak> cutter: thanks for all
[06:21] <KaiserSuse> freewill: hmm... could you rephrase that?
[06:21] <cutter> yak:  np at all
[06:21] <robert_> how do I get rid of locales?
[06:21] <lotfi> merde
[06:21] <freewill> KaiserSuse; i used wget to start the download on windows
[06:22] <v3ctor> !fr
[06:22] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[06:22] <lotfi> merci
[06:22] <cutter> I have just got twinview working.  What is stopping me putting icons on one of the desktops ??
[06:22] <ehird> Sooooooooooooooo no ideas
[06:22] <freewill> KaiserSuse; i could use wget the only problem is wouldn't it maybe it would corrupt the whole download and that would be bad
[06:22] <robert_> bah
[06:22] <ibekaan> hi
[06:22] <robert_> I can't install belocs-locales-data
[06:23] <robert_> because it conflicts with locales
[06:23] <robert_> and I want these stupid language errors to go away
[06:23] <robert_> so, my question to all of you is- WTF
[06:23] <yak> !de
[06:23] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[06:23] <KaiserSuse> freewill: well, i don't know of a tool that validates a partial download... you could try to resume downloading it and then check its MD5 hash
[06:23] <fdoving> cutter: could it be 'lock to grid?' try to right click on the desktop -> icons -> lock to grid.
[06:23] <yak> !eu
[06:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:23] <yak> !et
[06:23] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[06:24] <fdoving> cutter: it's actually 'align to grid'.
[06:24] <martin_> How do you configure WiFi with WPA? I only see the option for WEP
[06:24] <cutter> fdoving:  Bloody hell.  As simple as that.  Thanks
[06:24] <freewill> KaiserSuse; ok would most probably do that but what should i do if they have a differant hash?
[06:24] <fdoving> cutter: you're welcome :)
[06:25] <cutter> fdoving:  Been bugging me since I moved to Kubuntu
[06:25] <cutter> fdoving:  Never even thought to look there.  Blonde moment
[06:25] <alexicon> hrmm in kde i can only select windows to bring to the front by clicking the title bar.. but its supposed to rise when i click anywhere on the inactive window
[06:25] <freewill> KaiserSuse; (after i resumed it on linux with wget and downloaded it and then have differant hashes... if u know what i mean..)
[06:26] <KaiserSuse> freewill: I'm afraid that you would have no option other than download it again... next time, maybe you could try jigdo (don't remember if its available for Kubuntu)
[06:27] <freewill> KaiserSuse; thx allot cheers
[06:27] <june> !javascript
[06:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about javascript - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:28] <june> !java
[06:28] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:28] <freewill> !share
[06:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about share - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:28] <june> hrm, i need javascript, how would install that?
[06:28] <KaiserSuse> freewill: np
[06:28] <BluesKaj> !wine
[06:28] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:28] <TheGateKeeper> !nfs
[06:28] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:28] <ehird> any ideas about my colour problem?
[06:28] <TheGateKeeper> !samba
[06:28] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[06:28] <june> isn't there a package for javascript?
[06:28] <TheGateKeeper> freewill ^^^^^
[06:29] <freewill> TheGateKeeper ^^^^^^^^^^^^
[06:29] <BluesKaj> BTW flash 9 won't install in FF2.0 plugin...at least i cna't get it towork :(
[06:30] <trappist> BluesKaj: Seveas has a package that works
[06:30] <v3ctor> i got flash 9 to work by using the plugin in my users plugin dir...global didn't work
[06:31] <june> BluesKaj: i had my flash 9 since right before 2.0, i upgraded to 2.0 and nothing broke...
[06:31] <myesterious> hi
[06:31] <june> !javascript
[06:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about javascript - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <trappist> hey isn't there a kde app that lets me use like an eyedropper to grab a color from somewhere on the screen?
[06:32] <myesterious> Safe ? if i install some package outside of respository of Ubuntu.
[06:32] <BluesKaj> trappist, june ...I've tried everything i can think of ...it justwon't install or open with or any of that stuff..i followed the reame instructions etc but no luck :(
[06:33] <trappist> BluesKaj: *shrug* I didn't follow any instructions :)  I just installed Seveas's package
[06:33] <june> you put the shared object in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins ?
[06:33] <soulrider> hello everyone
[06:33] <soulrider> is anyone using any program similar to peerguardian ?
[06:34] <BluesKaj> yeah , i have the seveas source but i cna't think why it won't work after installing with adept
[06:34] <ehird> =S
[06:37] <TheWheat> any ideas how 2 get a usb wireless adaptor to work. i did a "iwconfig" and it shows the usb adaptor with an interface name of "rausb0". but when i try to ifconfig "rausb0" the system locks up and the ifconfig process uses all the cpu cycles
[06:37] <martin_> anyone know how to set up WPA for wireless networking?
[06:38] <htraki> As I know WPA is not supported yet
[06:38] <esaym> leet
[06:39] <martin_> doh
[06:39] <yak> cutter: i do what you say but when i unpack the file tar.gz and then make ./vmware-install it wont work there are errors
[06:39] <Trist_an> is it possible to cut in four the konsole window to have 4 konsole in one?
[06:40] <yak> cutter: thx i get it was a mistake
[06:40] <ukubuntu> Does freenode log these channels, so we can look at the public view later?
[06:40] <Tm_T> !logs
[06:40] <ubotu> Channel logs can be found at http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs
[06:40] <ukubuntu> kewl :)
[06:41] <Tm_T> Dunno if that includes this too.
[06:41] <wilman> how can i exit the x server?
[06:41] <ukubuntu> I will findout :D
[06:41] <htraki> ctrl+backspace
[06:41] <wilman> thx
[06:41] <htraki> sorry,ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:42] <wilman> hmm
[06:42] <wilman> it does nothing
[06:42] <wilman> hmm :(
[06:43] <ukubuntu> oh-ho-ho!, Yes it does, and all the meetings and the java and more!, A log heaven!
[06:43] <sc0tt_> alt+f2 then /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[06:43] <sc0tt_> :P
[06:43] <htraki> this hot is 4 X server shutdown
[06:43] <wilman> ok
[06:44] <TheWheat> martin_ wpa is supported
[06:45] <TheWheat> martin_: if you want an easier way to install kwlan
[06:48] <BluesKaj> hmmm the seveas pkg sources are all 404'd on my apt-get update
[06:49] <htraki> BluesKaj what would U like to get?
[06:50] <ehird> wtf.
[06:51] <BluesKaj> try this video at youtube ...it requires flashplayer ...I can't get it to work http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arfNofxBtfY
[06:51] <ayaa> how can i configure wich programs should start in my kde session ?
[06:51] <apokryphos> ayaa: you can either configure your session (from systemsettings) to revert to your last saved session
[06:51] <KyA> .kde/autostart
[06:51] <htraki> @ me works
[06:52] <apokryphos> or, you can set things in .kde/Autostart. Using a session would be the preferred way though -- certainly neater.
[06:52] <htraki> get flashplayer-nonfree
[06:53] <TheGateKeeper> !flash9
[06:53] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[06:53] <wilman> the stupid x server does not want to quit
[06:53] <wilman> grrr
[06:54] <htraki> wilman if nothing works hit the reset button
[06:54] <TheGateKeeper> Ctrl + Alt + backspace
[06:54] <htraki> I told him already
[06:54] <wilman> i do that al the time
[06:54] <wilman> it does nothing
[06:54] <TheGateKeeper> ohhh ok
[06:55] <wilman> like my keyboard is not working corect
[06:55] <wilman> cause alt-f2 doesnt work either
[06:55] <htraki> Can U change the keyboard
[06:55] <wilman> im gonna try
[06:57] <ayaa> am getting this error in /var/log/syslog: kdm_greet[5621] : Internal error: memory corruption detected
[06:57] <htraki> ayaa kde version, what distro do U use?
[06:58] <zetor> hello all!
[06:58] <htraki> hello zetor
[06:58] <ayaa> htraki, kubuntu dapper
[06:58] <ayaa> with kiosktool restriction
[07:00] <htraki> ayya did U have all the latest updates
[07:00] <ayaa> offcourse
[07:00] <htraki> kde 3.5.2 ?
[07:00] <ayaa> kdebase-bin                            3.5.2-0ubuntu26
[07:01] <htraki> ayaa try to update I use 3.5.4, but 4 dapper there is 3.5.5
[07:02] <ayaa> htraki, update ? wich repo ?
[07:02] <htraki> add new line in adept
[07:02] <htraki> http://www.kubuntu.org/packages/kde-354/
[07:02] <htraki> this is the URL
[07:02] <htraki> everythinf else are same
[07:03] <htraki> deb, dapper, main
[07:03] <robert_> bah
[07:03] <robert_> does anyone have any issues with kcontrol not loading applets due to language errors? :/
[07:04] <kay> iamnotreal42
[07:04] <kay> lol
[07:04] <kay> hello?
[07:05] <kay> !de
[07:05] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:05] <MikeT> so Kubuntu 6.10 x64 booted off a DVD wont initialize my HP's wireless....is there a way to get it to work, so i know its going to work when i install?
[07:05] <wimpies> I have trouble instaling 6.06 on my compaq armada 1750
[07:05] <kay> dos run
[07:05] <kay> run dos
[07:05] <kay> run dos run
[07:06] <MikeT> c:\dos
[07:06] <MikeT> :P
[07:06] <kay> :D
[07:06] <htraki> wimpies, what does your compaq contain?
[07:06] <wimpies> after a while booting it ends with no more disk activity and a KDE arraw cursor that no longer moves
[07:06] <wimpies> contains : 192 MB, 4 GB disk
[07:06] <htraki> Chipset?
[07:06] <wimpies> chipset of what MoBo, Graphic CPU ?
[07:07] <jhutchins> MikeT: Have you checked to see if there are native linux drivers for your wireless card, or if it will require ndiswrappers?
[07:07] <MikeT> i know it requires ndis, its a broadcomm
[07:07] <MikeT> but the last compaq i had with the same card 6.06 worked lovely with it
[07:07] <htraki> North Bridge like Nforce3 or intel 845 or something?
[07:08] <htraki> GPU?
[07:08] <wimpies> oops : 96 MB Pent II 300 MHz (intel 440 Bx chips)
[07:09] <htraki> That"s not much,no wonder X req least 128M as I know
[07:09] <MikeT> it uses xFCE so would probably fare better
[07:09] <htraki> MikeT X server wont start at him
[07:10] <wimpies> MikeT : can I run KDE on it or does it run another Window Manager
[07:10] <MikeT> another wm
[07:10] <wimpies> I think the X server runs because I saw an x and then a arrow cursor
[07:10] <MikeT> but i had FC with xFCE running on a 133mhz with 64mb of ram
[07:11] <robert_> does anyone have any issues with kcontrol not loading applets due to 'language pack' problems? :/
[07:12] <htraki> try to switch to english first
[07:13] <robert_> how would I do that? o_o
[07:14] <htraki> Kcontrol does not start
[07:14] <htraki> which lang pack installed?
[07:14] <robert_> how do I tell?
[07:15] <htraki> dpkg -l | grep lang
[07:15] <wimpies> On my desktop pc I want the OpenGL screensaver (which works when I press TEST) but I get this monochrome 'X' saver
[07:15] <thomas_> test
[07:15] <wimpies> where does it come from
[07:16] <robert_> htraki: what am I looking for?
[07:16] <htraki> language-pack-kde-en
[07:16] <htraki> 4 example
[07:16] <robert_> ah
[07:16] <robert_> I don't have a kde language pack installed
[07:17] <htraki> but U run KDE desktop?
[07:17] <archangel_> hey, what can I do to play dvds?
[07:17] <robert_> yeah
[07:17] <robert_> I do
[07:17] <robert_> I apt-got it
[07:17] <archangel_> I  have Dapper
[07:18] <htraki> U should least install english lang pack
[07:18] <htraki> and the base
[07:18] <robert_> well, that might be my problem
[07:19] <robert_> hm
[07:19] <robert_> why do I get perl locale errors?
[07:19] <htraki> apt get language-support-en
[07:19] <teledyn> robert_: maybe you don't have the LC variables set?
[07:20] <htraki> the default is C
[07:20] <robert_> LC_ALL = (unset)
[07:20] <teledyn> robert_: try dpkg-reconfigure localeconf
[07:21] <htraki> arcangel install kaffeine or kmplayer with mplayer
[07:21] <robert_> locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory
[07:21] <robert_> locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory
[07:21] <robert_> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[07:21] <htraki> if U use KDE
[07:21] <htraki> robert install locale
[07:21] <teledyn> robert_: apt-get install locales localeconf
[07:22] <dom> is there's a short command to list my basic system info?  somethign that would include my kernel version, kubuntu release, and kde version at the least?
[07:23] <charly_> wenas
[07:23] <charly_> hay alguien espaol?
[07:23] <robert_> locales is already the newest version.
[07:24] <htraki> liblocale-gettext-perl is installed?
[07:24] <dom> !es
[07:24] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:25] <TheGateKeeper> !backup
[07:25] <ubotu> There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi
[07:29] <instructor> What's happening with Kopete?
[07:29] <htraki> robert what did U do with your system ?
[07:30] <instructor> !kopete
[07:30] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 6825 kB, installed size 18932 kB
[07:31] <fdoving> instructor: https://launchpad.net/malone/69494 - related to this?
[07:32] <instructor> Yup
[07:34] <wilman> when i start google video or youtube i can see the video's but i don't hear any sound
[07:34] <iarwain> hi wilman,
[07:35] <wilman> hi
[07:35] <iarwain> try starting firefox with the aoss argument
[07:35] <iarwain> i think it is like this: firefox aoss
[07:35] <wilman> aoss argument?
[07:35] <iarwain> in your terminal
[07:35] <wilman> ok
[07:35] <iarwain> try that
[07:35] <iarwain> and if it works,
[07:35] <iarwain> just add it in your .desktop file =)
[07:35] <wilman> nope :(
[07:35] <wilman> command not found
[07:36] <htraki> wilman ARTS running
[07:36] <iarwain> try sudo aptitude install alsa-oss
[07:36] <wilman> ooh it works
[07:36] <wilman> firefox aoss
[07:36] <BluesKaj> Does Flash work for any one here using edgy and FF2 on this site ?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmroaYVD_so
[07:36] <iarwain> :)
[07:36] <archangel_> why cant I play dvds?
[07:36] <archangel_> I used too
[07:37] <__osh__> color depth? gui to change that somewhere?
[07:37] <iarwain> @Blueskaj: i can
[07:37] <__osh__> !dvd
[07:37] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[07:37] <archangel_> but now I can get to the rating screen if I'm lucky
[07:37] <wilman> so firefox aoss in the desktop file
[07:37] <iarwain> @wilman: jup, that should do the tric
[07:37] <iarwain> k
[07:37] <archangel_> thanx
[07:37] <larson9999> BluesKaj: works here
[07:38] <wilman> where is the desktop file:P
[07:38] <htraki> it is hiiden
[07:38] <htraki> hidden
[07:38] <robert_> I still get the same stuff
[07:38] <wilman> in a cave?
[07:38] <BluesKaj> iarwain, ok ..how did you install flashplayer ...by synaptic or  dpkg-i  filedirectory/filename ?
[07:38] <iarwain> @wilman: i don't really know what the correct name is, but the 'link' you click when starting FF :)
[07:39] <wilman> ok iam gonna look
[07:39] <iarwain> @BluesKaj: i used Automatix =) waaaay easier :d
[07:39] <wilman> shortcut
[07:39] <htraki> Bluekaj apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree
[07:39] <BluesKaj> eeeeuuuww
[07:39] <robert_> htraki: I'm still getting locale errors from perl
[07:39] <BluesKaj> htraki,been there done that about 4 times ...it won' work for me
[07:39] <__osh__> BluesKaj: Well known bug. Reported numerous time on launchpad.net
[07:39] <htraki> Tell me what did U do With your system?
[07:39] <teledyn> robert_: are they just warnings?
[07:40] <LjL> !automatix | iarwain
[07:40] <ubotu> iarwain: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[07:40] <robert_> yeah, but it's annoying, as I get them every time I install software
[07:40] <__osh__> BluesKaj: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/14911 <- among other places.
[07:40] <wilman> arrr
[07:40] <wilman> not working
[07:40] <__osh__> BluesKaj: Looking at the same problem myself.
[07:40] <iarwain> @wilmin: do you get an error? Or just no sound again?
[07:41] <wilman> an error
[07:41] <iarwain> what error?
[07:42] <robert_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/rQEXxo46.html
[07:42] <larson9999> !flash
[07:42] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:42] <wilman> KDEinit could not laund "aoss"
[07:43] <iarwain> @wilman: don't know about that one, but it does work in a terminal?
[07:43] <wilman> well i tried but it gave no error
[07:43] <wilman> only nothing
[07:43] <BluesKaj> FF doesn't crash , it just won't play Flash content ..tried the open with install command ...no luck there either ..totally stymied :(
[07:43] <iarwain> how do you mean, 'nothing'?
[07:44] <wilman> wait
[07:44] <wilman> now it does something diferent
[07:44] <iarwain> lol =) tell me if/when you get any errors
[07:44] <wilman> can i paste here?
[07:45] <wilman> or will i be kicked?
[07:45] <BluesKaj> !pastebin
[07:45] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:45] <sloef_> Hi guys
[07:45] <sloef_> Does anyone knows what gets initialised by the kernel after the USB?
[07:46] <robert_> http://rafb.net/paste/results/rQEXxo46.html <-- warnings I get every time I install a software package
[07:46] <wilman> wilman@wilman-desktop:~$ firefox aoss
[07:47] <wilman> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 154
[07:47] <wilman>   Major opcode:  143
[07:47] <wilman>   Minor opcode:  3
[07:47] <wilman>   Resource id:  0x0
[07:47] <zorglu_> !baddevice | wilman
[07:47] <ubotu> wilman: If you are getting errors similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.0
[07:47] <marcin_> hi can someone send me /etc/rc... from edgy 'cause i've deleted few without backup;/
[07:47] <zorglu_> hmm not the same :) but maybe close :)
[07:47] <wilman> thx
[07:47] <lotfi> bonsoir
[07:47] <sparrwork> is it normal for Adept to "freeze" when installing new packages until I click 'Details' to see the dpkg prompts its waiting for?
[07:48] <zorglu_> !fr
[07:48] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:48] <Tm_T> sparrwork: I think yes.
[07:48] <zorglu_> !locale | robert_
[07:48] <ubotu> robert_: To set up and configure your locales, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LocaleConf
[07:48] <wilman> nl
[07:48] <abattoir> sparrwork: yes, adept can't handle interactivity in a terminal
[07:48] <mariano_> hey guys, I was trying to install my nvidia drivers and the non generic kernel, and now I can't get a graphical desktop
[07:48] <mariano_> can you guys help
[07:48] <ayaa> how to edit other users menu ?
[07:48] <sparrwork> abattoir: any suggestions other than adept?  ive used synaptic in debian
[07:49] <abattoir> sparrwork: use apt-get/aptitude for packages which require you to accept/input something
[07:49] <abattoir> sparrwork: you could use synaptic if you want
[07:49] <TheGateKeeper> sparrwork: use synaptic I do
[07:49] <sparrwork> ok, thanks
[07:49] <abattoir> sparrwork: sudo apt-get install synaptic , should get it for you
[07:49] <sparrwork> where might i find help with moving emails into my new thunderbird?
[07:49] <abattoir> sparrwork: moving from where? another installation of thunderbird?
[07:50] <Egi> hi
[07:50] <Egi> erm ... how do i find out what graphic card i have ?
[07:50] <robert_> and this is from kcontrol directly- http://rafb.net/paste/results/Wyoemr98.html
[07:50] <Egi> cant find the right entry in /proc/...
[07:51] <mhz> hi all
[07:51] <v3ctor> Egi: lspci
[07:51] <abattoir> Egi: try 'lspci -v' in a terminal
[07:51] <Egi> thx
[07:51] <mariano_> should I just reinstall it?
[07:51] <mhz> I know I have asked this before but....my needs are still up: Anyone using OpenKiosk? (nodeview and openkiosk)
[07:52] <Egi> yeah baby ... riva tnt 2 ^^
[07:52] <sparrwork> abattoir: from another machine, originally from Outlook.  i imported from outlook to tbird on the old machine, so now ive got a tbird profile with all my emails in it on that machine as well as the original outlook.pst
[07:53] <lotfi> bonsoir
[07:53] <Egi> is there a way to play old dos / windows games without wine ?
[07:54] <trappist> Egi: dosemu
[07:54] <wilman> how to open tekst files from the console?
[07:54] <abattoir> sparrwork:  http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_backup#Restoring_or_migrating_your_backed-up_profile might help
[07:55] <lotfi> bonsoir
[07:55] <lotfi> je cherche
[07:55] <abattoir> sparrwork: it's windows specific though, basically just copying folders from the old profile into the new one should work
[07:55] <trappist> !fr > lotfi
[07:56] <Egi> trappist: and how about the windows games ?
[07:56] <trappist> Egi: gotta use wine (or a wine derivative) for that
[07:57] <mhz> cedega might be good option
[07:57] <wilman> for tekst files?
[07:58] <ypsila> und tschss
[07:59] <zorglu_> !fr
[07:59] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:59] <zorglu_> !de
[07:59] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[07:59] <zorglu_> well german is close to french :)
[07:59] <Egi> ll
[07:59] <Egi> i wouldnt say that
[08:00] <Egi> if french is close to german ... than english ist almost the same language as german ^^
[08:01] <sparrwork> abattoir: thanks.  had to do some shuffling of folders since a lot had the same names, but i got it
[08:01] <abattoir> sparrwork: you're welcome :)
[08:02] <robert_> most of that I've already done
[08:02] <robert_> so why am I still getting locale warnings from perl?
[08:03] <lotfi> kubuntu fr  !!
[08:04] <teledyn> robert_: they're just warnings.  they can be ignored
[08:06] <zorglu_> q. anybody running edgy can run 'kate' in a terminal and tell me if it see 'weird message' like ScimInputContextPlugin() or stuff of this kind ?
[08:07] <gupta> can anyone help with changing ctrl+q = resume in wget?
[08:07] <gupta> to something like ctrl+r
[08:08] <trappist> gupta: I think ctrl-q comes from the shell, not wget.  not 100% sure there.
[08:09] <gupta> trappist: so what do I add in my zshrc?
[08:10] <zorglu_> yep, it is stopping the output
[08:10] <trappist> you use zsh?
[08:10] <zorglu_> some stty magic could change it
[08:10] <gupta> trappist: ofcourse! :D
[08:10] <zorglu_>        start CHAR
[08:10] <zorglu_>               CHAR will restart the output after stopping it
[08:10] <zorglu_> this is the part of stty to play with
[08:10] <zorglu_> it was from man stty
[08:11] <trappist> gupta: I dunno anything about zsh
[08:11] <zorglu_> ok anybody running edgy and 1min to spare ?
[08:12] <__osh__> BluesKaj: Still trouble with flash?
[08:12] <zorglu_> 1. run 'kate' in a terminal 2. tell me if kate dumps 'weird message' on the terminal
[08:13] <zorglu_> gupta: man stty, look at the start/stop stuff. type "stty -a" to see the current status
[08:13] <gupta> zorglu_: Thanks.. trying..
[08:13] <zorglu_> gupta: you run edgy ?
[08:13] <Ace2016> Hi all
[08:14] <Ace2016> how do i get the internet working in vmplayer?
[08:14] <Ace2016> i installed it, restarted the computer and now what?
[08:14] <gupta> zorglu_: No
[08:14] <zorglu_> quite hard to have somebody typing 4letter in a shell
[08:14] <zorglu_> gupta: ok toobad :)
[08:14] <gupta> but stty was what I was looking for.. thanks
[08:14] <gupta> Just need to modify it a bit
[08:14] <abattoir> zorglu_: i'm running edgy, what do you need?
[08:15] <abattoir> zorglu_: what do you mean by 'weird messages' ?
[08:15] <zorglu_> abattoir: does kate dump its debug on the terminal ? like when launching 'kate' do you see stuff like 'ScimInputContextPlugin()"
[08:15] <__osh__> zorglu_: No weird messages for me.
[08:15] <abattoir> zorglu_: i get the regular bad device output... and then some scim related stuff
[08:15] <francesco> hello
[08:15] <zorglu_> abattoir: it was the simple version of 'dump the debug'
[08:15] <francesco> @ll
[08:16] <zorglu_> abattoir: ok thanks, it is what i wanted to know
[08:16] <abattoir> zorglu_: i guess that's normal, you might see it w/ other kde apps too
[08:16] <francesco> glxinfo
[08:16] <francesco> name of display: :0.0
[08:16] <francesco> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[08:16] <francesco> what is taht?
[08:17] <zorglu_> abattoir: yep some considere normal to dump their debug on the terminal in shipped software :)
[08:17] <zorglu_> francesco: a weird message :)
[08:17] <abattoir> zorglu_: it's useful ;)
[08:18] <zorglu_> well it is their policies :) and i dont get it but im not here to argue :)
[08:18] <francesco> have any hier knowlege of graphics acceleration
[08:19] <francesco> on ubuntu?
[08:19] <francesco> kubuntu?
[08:19] <zorglu_> francesco: you likely have an issue with the graphic drivers. first determine if you have 'xv' using the 'xvinfo' command line
[08:19] <exhale> what do you want to know?
[08:19] <robert_> 0.
[08:20] <robert_> yay- my keyboard's back together
[08:20] <robert_> heh
[08:20] <instructor> how do you get in contact with a maintainer?
[08:20] <francesco> ok i check that!
[08:20] <zorglu_> francesco: second, determine is glxinfo claim to be 'direct rendering'
[08:21] <francesco> francesco@francesco-desktop:~$ xvinfo
[08:21] <francesco> X-Video Extension version 2.2
[08:21] <francesco> screen #0
[08:21] <francesco>   Adaptor #0: "Intel(R) Video Overlay"
[08:21] <francesco>     number of ports: 1
[08:21] <ehird> how do i make antialiasing effect gtk apps? (text) :/
[08:21] <zorglu_> francesco: then find out what is your graphic card using 'lspci' like something "lspci | grep VGA"
[08:21] <zorglu_> francesco: you got 'xv' aka the 2d acceleration
[08:21] <francesco> @zorglu_ have you see me message?
[08:22] <Behi> hi
[08:22] <Behi> right now I am in Kubuntu
[08:22] <Behi> how can I format my fdd?
[08:22] <zorglu_> francesco: glxinfo | grep 'direct rendering'
[08:22] <francesco> francesco@francesco-desktop:~$ glxinfo | grep dir
[08:22] <francesco> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x4b
[08:22] <francesco> direct rendering: Yes
[08:22] <Behi> it's mounted under /media/fd0
[08:22] <zorglu_> Behi: play with 'fdformat', man fdformat to get the doc
[08:23] <Behi> zorglu_: thx
[08:23] <zorglu_> francesco: ok no idea about the 0x4b
[08:23] <zorglu_> francesco: what about the 3d perf, are they ok ?
[08:23] <francesco> vn
[08:23] <francesco> francesco@francesco-desktop:~$ lspci | grep VGA
[08:23] <francesco> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[08:24] <Behi> zorglu_: thx
[08:24] <Behi> zorglu_: it worked
[08:24] <zorglu_> Behi: cool :)
[08:24] <francesco> yes i use beryl and work perfectly
[08:24] <zorglu_> francesco: cool then :)
[08:24] <Behi> zorglu_: is this format standard? I mean can I read the floppy contents from withing Win XP then?
[08:24] <francesco> but this message dont know, what is that
[08:24] <francesco> ?
[08:25] <zorglu_> Behi: i dont think there is any format on it :)
[08:25] <zorglu_> Behi: fdformat just 'format', you need some mkfs on it to get a fat fs
[08:25] <zorglu_> francesco: no idea about the 0x4b
[08:25] <Behi> zorglu_: ok... then I have to go with FAT16 then, no?
[08:26] <zorglu_> Behi: i dont remember that :)
[08:26] <zorglu_> Behi: i havent used floppy in a while :)
[08:26] <Behi> zorglu_: ok, thx a lot anyways :D
[08:26] <Behi> :)
[08:26] <Behi> me too!
[08:26] <Behi> my XP exploded...
[08:26] <Behi> and now I'm trying to repair it...
[08:26] <zorglu_> Behi: you cant boot from a live cd >?
[08:28] <Behi> zorglu_: I had installed the XP on a RAID-0
[08:28] <Lars_G> Do you guys know the dvd has a broken package?
[08:28] <Behi> now it's exploded...
[08:28] <Behi> I am trying to reinstall it
[08:28] <Behi> but I need a floppy with RAID-0 drivers :((
[08:29] <Lars_G> Behi: I think thumbsrvt had raid support.... I think
[08:29] <Lars_G> Why not use a livecd?
[08:29] <Behi> Lars_G: I am now in Kubuntu LiveCD
[08:30] <Lars_G> then you should be able to use raid-0, just load the module
[08:30] <Behi> I want to download the driver files from shuttle.com and copy them to the floppy disk :(
[08:30] <Lars_G> Ah ok
[08:30] <Lars_G> good luck
[08:30] <zorglu_>  Behi: http://yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialUsingDOSFloppies.html <- some info on the dos floppy + linux
[08:31] <Lars_G> So. did you know the dvd has a broken package?
[08:31] <Lars_G> :D
[08:31] <sloef> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30078/ ... can anyone tell me why edgy (2.6.17 kernel) won't boot ... it stops after USB initialisation. (I've pasted the 2.6.15 dmesg)
[08:31] <Lars_G> And it kills my apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:31] <Lars_G>  /pool/main/f/foo2zjs/foo2zjs_20060625dfsg-2_i386.deb  fails MD5Sum :'(
[08:32] <zorglu_> Lars_G: hmm seems more like a corrupted dvd
[08:32] <MeTa> !wifi
[08:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:32] <Lars_G> And I've had torrent check the checksum against the .torrent file, so it's the original dvd that must be wrong.
[08:32] <Lars_G> zorglu_: Nyet, I had torrent check all the blocks against the checksum in the .torrent file three times. they all match
[08:33] <zorglu_> yep but you boot on a dvd disk :) and this one could be corrupted :)
[08:33] <zorglu_> is there a hash check on the dvd ?
[08:33] <Lars_G> eh? no I do not boot on a dvd disk.
[08:33] <Lars_G> there is NO md5 sum provided on the whole dvd by kubuntu
[08:33] <Lars_G> AND, the .torrent file includes checksum for every block, and they all pass, so I have a good copy of the original image
[08:33] <zorglu_>   /pool/main/f/foo2zjs/foo2zjs_20060625dfsg-2_i386.deb <- where is this ? is this a dvd disk ?
[08:34] <Behi> zorglu_: thx :)
[08:34] <Lars_G> zorglu_: oh I see what you mean. Sure I'll tell k3b to check the physical against the image.
[08:38] <Bubba_Gump> sandwich?
[08:38] <Lars_G> I wonder, can I run apt-cdrom over a mounted iso?
[08:40] <Lars_G> Hmm no more free cds for newest version
[08:40] <Lars_G> I can live with that
[08:40] <michael__> thats very bad
[08:41] <Lars_G> Yes and no.
[08:41] <michael__> ok you can also download it
[08:41] <Lars_G> At least they don't overcharge as much as OpenBSD to use this to generate income. And they don't stop you burning copies of it once you have it.
[08:41] <Lars_G> And you can download the isos, correct.
[08:41] <Lars_G> And this way we ubuntu lovers are sure people busing shipit won't run the corp dry
[08:41] <Lars_G> abusing
[08:42] <michael__> i am a newbie ^^
[08:42] <michael__> but i love it
[08:42] <Lars_G> Welcome :)
[08:42] <michael__> thx
[08:42] <Lars_G> They should do a slightly reduced tri-pack with dvds for all three platforms. I think
[08:43] <michael__> your meaning with xubuntu ....
[08:43] <michael__> or only with the desktop?
[08:43] <Lars_G> Well well well. It does seem it might be a dvd burnign problem.
[08:43] <Lars_G> michael__: I mean Kubuntu for 386, 64 bit and ppc
[08:44] <michael__> hi max
[08:44] <instructor> Kuick Kuestion
[08:44] <instructor> Is ksh still non opensource?
[08:46] <Lars_G> korn shell?
[08:46] <instructor> Si
[08:46] <Lars_G> o.O
[08:47] <instructor> O.o
[08:47] <Lars_G> instructor: it seems to be pretty much open source
[08:47] <instructor> what's the purpose of pdksh then?
[08:47] <Lars_G> altrnatives?
[08:48] <instructor> Why is it public domain if ksh is also public domain?
[08:48] <sparrwork> kde system settings - Sharing...  i went into admin mode for the File Sharing page, now the panel is outlined in red (good) and scrolled down (bad) so i can only see the greyed out stuff (bad).  help?
[08:48] <Lars_G> why not?
[08:48] <Lars_G> btw open source != public domain, you know
[08:49] <Lars_G> Anyhow, it seems ksh is under the cpl since 2000 so
[08:51] <instructor> OK
[08:53] <robin> hello, the icon on the speaker that opens up the mixer isnt beside the clock in the corner of my screen, any one know how to get it back?
[08:53] <sledge_at_work> robin: hit alt-f2, type kmix, and hit enter.
[08:53] <Lars_G> robin: alt-f2 "kmix" enter
[08:53] <wildchild> why my amarok freezes when I click on a mp3 song (I recently upgrade it to 1.4.4)
[08:53] <Lars_G> sledge_at_work: You type too fast.
[08:54] <sledge_at_work> Lars_G: not fast enough. ;)
[08:54] <robin> after that should kmixer start every time i boot?
[08:56] <sledge_at_work> robin: It should have done that to begin with. If you turn off your computer properly (i.e. KDE remembers what programs you were running), it'll show up fine.
[08:56] <smaggard> yeah
[08:56] <robin> ok thx
[08:56] <gupta> !gmrun
[08:56] <smaggard> mine just loaded up kmix automatically
[08:56] <ubotu> gmrun: Featureful CLI-like GTK+ application launcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.1-2 (edgy), package size 44 kB, installed size 172 kB
[09:00] <ubuntu_> hi
[09:00] <ubuntu_> I have a big problem
[09:00] <ubuntu_> after upgrading to edgy
[09:00] <Lars_G> !upgrade | Lars_G
[09:00] <ubotu> Lars_G: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[09:00] <ubuntu_> from dapper, my system doesn;t start
[09:00] <__osh__> ubuntu_: Don't we all.
[09:01] <ubuntu_> ihaev installed something like heldback packages I think
[09:01] <ubuntu_> and after that I have rebooted and system crashed
[09:01] <ubuntu_> how to fix this
[09:02] <Lars_G> wish me luck, I'm middle update
[09:02] <Lars_G> ubuntu_: Your information is too vague to help
[09:02] <smaggard> lol system crashed how to fix
[09:02] <ubuntu_> Lars_G: ?
[09:02] <smaggard> we need more
[09:02] <ubuntu_> dont' install held back packages
[09:02] <v3ctor> try booting to single user mode and doing anouther dist-upgrade
[09:03] <Lars_G> ubuntu_: "system chrased" can describe thousands of things we need more details.
[09:03] <ubuntu_> crashed, sorry
[09:03] <ubuntu_> :)
[09:03] <ubuntu_> my   mistake
[09:03] <v3ctor> crashed is also too vague
[09:03] <ubuntu_> the kernel doesn't start
[09:03] <smaggard> lol
[09:03] <Lars_G> when the kernel doesn't start it should show a panic error, what does it say just before the panic?
[09:03] <ubuntu_> v3ctor: 10x :)
[09:04] <ubuntu_> I think it doesn;t panic
[09:04] <wildchild> !synaptic
[09:04] <ubotu> synaptic is Ubuntu's Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto
[09:04] <ubuntu_> python packages were removed from the system
[09:04] <ubuntu_> when I installed the held back packages
[09:05] <ubuntu_> and what is meaning of this held back packages
[09:05] <ubuntu_> !edgy
[09:05] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[09:06] <MetaMorfoziS> !wiki
[09:06] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[09:06] <MetaMorfoziS> !wifi
[09:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:06] <ubuntu_> so who can help me
[09:07] <smaggard> ubuntu> reinstall ubuntu
[09:07] <Lars_G> I pray I can compile a newer nvidia for edgy
[09:07] <Lars_G> and make scim work
[09:08] <Lars_G> Well at least I'm getting xorg 7.1
[09:08] <mickael> Hello all. I was wondering, if I wanted to make an exact copy of my kubuntu  instilation with my profile and packages the way it is now on maybe a dvd to duplicate it on another laptop, what would I use?
[09:09] <wildchild> how can I get the older version of amrok
[09:09] <wildchild> now I have 1.4.4.
[09:09] <wildchild> and couse it totall sux or only I have problems - it freezes after  Iclick on a song
[09:09] <wildchild> I wanna get older one
[09:09] <wildchild> I just don't know how to do that? Any ideas?
[09:10] <PupenoR_> In what files should I set the prompt, PS1, ? /etc/bash.bashrc and/or ~/.bashrc ?
[09:10] <mickael> xmms
[09:11] <PupenoR_> wildchild: that can be done with some APT tricks, but it's not easy.
[09:11] <wildchild> PupenoR_: I am listening as long as u have time
[09:12] <PupenoR_> wildchild: I don't know how to do it, but you can check the APT manual.
[09:12] <PupenoR_> wildchild: hold on a second.
[09:13] <PupenoR_> wildchild: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/index.en.html
[09:13] <PupenoR_> wildchild: and don't forget to report your bugs to http://bugs.kubuntu.org
[09:16] <slow-motion> hallo
[09:17] <mickael> ??
[09:18] <mattik> what's wrong in my ati settings? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30085/
[09:19] <gaylord> is there anywone here who knows under KDE how to prevent all windows to get on top of sidebar when they are maximized ?
[09:20] <Lars_G> Well, first warning, skkinput blocks Xorg from moving and symlinking /usr/X11R6/bin
[09:20] <Lars_G> Wb zorglu_
[09:20] <goliath23> gaylord: in the settings for the panel you can allow windows to overlap. maybe that setting is set?
[09:20] <Lars_G> zorglu_: I wanted to tell you, that you where correct. I used apt-cdrom on the iso itself, and it works without a hitch, so the problem ocurred while burning
[09:20] <zorglu_> Lars_G: cool :)
[09:21] <gaylord> goliath23:  i d like to be abble to keep the sidebar not on top of all others but beiing abble to prevent windows to cover up the sidebar
[09:21] <Lars_G> zorglu_: Btw where are you from?
[09:21] <zorglu_> Lars_G: i live in france at the moment. why ?
[09:21] <redone> hi: alsa sound work but i dont have sound in the system!! it's normal ??
[09:21] <gaylord> so the maximum size equal the size of my screen less the size of the sidebar as for a top bar
[09:21] <Lars_G> zorglu_: Your nick. It sounded like the kind of nick a spainyard might use
[09:22] <zorglu_> Lars_G: hehe :) well i choosed it at random :) i change nick regularly :)
[09:22] <Lars_G> zorglu_: Like Maybeso?
[09:22] <Lars_G> it's a character from a sci-fi series
[09:22] <zorglu_> Lars_G: at a point i was 'fred' then 'aliasfred' because somebody else wanted fred :)
[09:23] <Lars_G> sci-fi book series that is
[09:23] <zorglu_> but my firstname is not 'fred' at all :)
[09:23] <Lars_G> :D
[09:23] <Lars_G> well the upgrade seems to be working so far.
[09:23] <Lars_G> But I'll double check packages before rebooting
[09:24] <justin_> hi
[09:24] <Lars_G> I wish someone would take the time I don't want to spend ( ;)  ) and recode mirrorselect-apt to be ubuntu friendly
[09:24] <Lars_G> hi justin_
[09:24] <justin_> hi everyone, this is my first time doing this
[09:24] <zorglu_> Lars_G: keep a known-to-be-working live cd around
[09:24] <justin_> im a noob at linux
[09:24] <Bubba_Gump> tasty
[09:24] <Lars_G> zorglu_: Eh good advice, specially now that I have none.. well I have one, for ubuntu 5.10
[09:25] <Lars_G> But I've downloaded a cdrom iso for kubuntu edgy, I might burn it now
[09:25] <Justin1278> does anyone know how to give Kubuntu a transparent look to it?
[09:26] <Lars_G> trouble is these mini-cds scratch inside my koala in two days. lol
[09:26] <ubuntu_> hi
[09:26] <ubuntu_> anybody need help?
[09:26] <instructor> Me!
[09:26] <ubuntu_> i'm at work right now and have nothing to do lol
[09:27] <Justin1278> lol
[09:27] <Lars_G> :)
[09:27] <Justin1278> is there a way to give Kubuntu a transparent look?
[09:27] <inteliwasp> Lars_G, well you could make a bootable flash drive
[09:27] <instructor> how do I assess the performance of my system
[09:27] <ubuntu_> xgl
[09:27] <gaylord> nobody to help me ?
[09:27] <ubuntu_> !beryl
[09:27] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[09:27] <ubuntu_> there ya go
[09:27] <ubuntu_> i'll help you gaylord
[09:27] <instructor> gaylord: what?
[09:27] <skreet> So I installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu install, latest everything. New loading screen comes up instead of kernel, etc. then black screen. I have to hit CTRL-ALT-F7 to get to KDM, it doesn't happen automagically, any ideas?
[09:27] <Justin1278> oh i have heard of Baryl
[09:27] <Justin1278> beryl*
[09:28] <Justin1278> but i thought it was only for Ubuntu
[09:28] <Lars_G> inteliwasp: A booteable pen drive just for rescue?? smart very smart. Problem is it will only work with machines that boot from usb, but it might work well..... thanks man, good idea
[09:28] <ubuntu_> i'd recommend following the first page of the original xgl guide
[09:28] <ubuntu_> !xgl
[09:28] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[09:28] <ubuntu_> just the first page^^
[09:28] <Lars_G> ubuntu_: Why beryl over compiz on Xorg?
[09:28] <ubuntu_> so that you can login to xgl as a different session
[09:28] <ubuntu_> thats what i did
[09:29] <ubuntu_> i run beryl on an xgl session and have normal kde on another session
[09:29] <Lars_G> Anyhow, compiz makes stuff too slow for me right now. Maybe when I buy an FX 6800, but not now. :)
[09:29] <ubuntu_> so that i can game in plain kde withoutslowdowns
[09:29] <ubuntu_> yeah look what i just said about beryl^^
[09:29] <Lars_G> ubuntu_: Now, that's smart. Once I finish restarting I'll check it
[09:29] <ubuntu_> yeah
[09:30] <Justin1278> wheredo i download beryl?
[09:30] <Lars_G> Ok ncurses reinstalling
[09:30] <ubuntu_> the only reason i did it was because i tried doing xgl compiz but then i got beryl and installed it on the xgl session
[09:30] <ubuntu_> otherwise games are extremely laggy
[09:30] <Lars_G> Yeah ubuntu_
[09:31] <Lars_G> I didn't knew I could use xgl selectively by session :)
[09:31] <instructor> ubuntu_: how do I assess the performance of my system
[09:31] <wildchild> If I wanna Install kubuntu by apt, what packages do I have to install?
[09:31] <Justin1278> where do i download beryl?
[09:32] <Trollinator> kubuntu-desktop
[09:32] <wildchild> amarok, amarok-xine, amarok-desktop, any others*
[09:32] <Lars_G> wildchild: afaik, "kubuntu-desktop" should be enough
[09:32] <jende_> any dvd specialists in here 2nite?
[09:32] <JakubS_> Lars_G: beryl (or compiz) works great even on integrated i915 chipset
[09:32] <Lars_G> dvd specialists?
[09:32] <JakubS_> and this is definitely not high-end
[09:32] <Lars_G> JakubS_: sweet
[09:32] <instructor> wildchild: kubuntu-desktop
[09:33] <JakubS_> 'benchmark' plugin shows 60-100 fps
[09:33] <Lars_G> Ok ok you've convinced me :P
[09:33] <jende_> Lars_G: I've got quite a few dvd's (movies) and those I'd like to copy just in case the original will be f*** one day
[09:33] <Lars_G> gah libpam beign replaced now
[09:33] <JakubS_> now i got something weird: quake2 on software renderer - ~80fps, after switching to opengl 5fps
[09:34] <Lars_G> jende_: Do you know that in many parts you can't legally backup dvd movies you own?
[09:34] <JakubS_> and used this laptop to play enemy territory before
[09:34] <Lars_G> JakubS_: ET? on a laptop? with what, an ATI Mobility?
[09:34] <JakubS_> Lars_G: this means you don't own them.
[09:34] <JakubS_> i915
[09:34] <zorglu_> JakubS_: i got a laptop with i915 and i would like to try xgl to see, do you have a url on how to install it ?
[09:34] <Lars_G> JakubS_: Correct, you own the physical dvd but you're only licensed to use the contents in certain manners.
[09:35] <wildchild> if I wanna share with someone that have XP, samba is simple client to do that?
[09:35] <JakubS_> zorglu_: better go with aiglx
[09:35] <zorglu_> JakubS_: ok, any url for this one ? :))
[09:35] <Lars_G> wildchild: Samba is the best but a little complicated to config, another quick option is to set an ftp server on the linux side
[09:35] <JakubS_> zorglu_: you just need quite new xorg (7.1 i believe) and that's it
[09:35] <JakubS_> and some composite manger - beryl works great for me
[09:36] <wildchild> Lars_G: I wanna user on XP to see my documents
[09:36] <Lars_G> wildchild: FTP would be a quick way, but if you will do this repeatedly, then configuring samba is a good investment.
[09:36] <zorglu_> JakubS_: ok but i would a url for it :) googling for 'kubuntu aiglx' would do ?
[09:36] <Lars_G> wildchild: there's a sharing app in the kde system config panel, that will help you configure samba a little less painfully
[09:37] <JakubS_> maybe, but probably there is nothing for you to configure :-)
[09:37] <inteliwasp> how can i get ntfs to work on dapper? i only really need read acces but wirte would be nice if it is stable
[09:37] <Trollinator> inteliwasp: STFW
[09:37] <zorglu_> hmm ok so i will wait to test it
[09:37] <Hikaru79> inteliwasp: have you tried simply mounting the partition?
[09:37] <Lars_G> whathever people say about speed and eye candy.. yes it has a lot of that, but beyound that it has a LOT of confortable functionality too
[09:37] <JakubS_> ntfs-3g is stable for both read and write
[09:38] <h3sp4wn> Anyone use kaffeine for watching video's ? (was using codeine but it was annoying the screensaver kept on coming on during a film)
[09:38] <Trollinator> inteliwasp: STFW and RTFM
[09:38] <h3sp4wn> does kaffeing have the same problem
[09:39] <stamen> hi again
[09:40] <stamen> my nick was ubuntu_
[09:40] <stamen> so the linux has fixed himself
[09:40] <Lars_G> stamen: there have been several ubuntu_ here, you're the one with the kernel crash?
[09:40] <stamen> yes I was
[09:40] <zorglu_> !aiglx
[09:40] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[09:40] <Lars_G> great
[09:40] <stamen> with the kernel crash :)
[09:40] <Lars_G> good to hear it fixed :)
[09:40] <stamen> so the system has fixed itself
[09:40] <Lars_G> Good for it!
[09:40] <Lars_G> :D
[09:41] <stamen> yes very good :)
[09:41] <stamen> I was ver concerned
[09:41] <stamen> adn egtting angry
[09:41] <Lars_G> Ok I will keep upgrading, see you all.
[09:41] <stamen> but afteer the second restart the system run
[09:42] <stamen> bye for now
[09:44] <wildchild> I've installed amarok, kubuntu-desktop and when I click on Amarok app it is loading for 15sec and then dissaper
[09:44] <wildchild> it doesn't open
[09:44] <JakubS_> try 'amarokapp' in console
[09:44] <JakubS_> it may at least give you a clue
[09:47] <wildchild> jakubS_:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30086/
[09:47] <JakubS_> that's all?
[09:48] <wildchild> yep
[09:48] <JakubS_> then it hangs, crashes or quits?
[09:48] <zorglu_>  q. is there a way to prevent amarok from sending all my info to last.fm ?
[09:48] <wildchild> crashes
[09:48] <wildchild> when I click on a song
[09:52] <jende_> !libdvdread
[09:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libdvdread - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:52] <jende_> has anyone of you k9copy on edgy?
[09:53] <Admiral_Chicago> !info libdvd
[09:53] <gupta> filelight should as default in kubuntu!!
[09:53] <ubotu> Package libdvd does not exist in any distro I know
[09:53] <Admiral_Chicago> !info libdvdread
[09:53] <h3sp4wn> !info libdvdread3
[09:53] <ubotu> Package libdvdread does not exist in any distro I know
[09:53] <ubotu> libdvdread3: library for reading DVDs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.6-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 53 kB, installed size 180 kB
[09:53] <Admiral_Chicago> h3sp4wn: thanks
[09:54] <JakubS> new thing learned: removing i915_dri.so when running X+AIGLX is bad for stability :-)
[09:56] <justin_> hello
[09:57] <justin_> can somebody help me with Beryl?
[09:57] <Admiral_Chicago> justin_: #ubuntu-xgl can a lot better
[09:58] <justin_> thanks Admiral
[09:58] <h3sp4wn> jende_: no and don't pm me
[09:59] <jende_> h3sp4wn: sorry
[10:00] <h3sp4wn> !pm
[10:00] <ubotu> Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can also benefit. Please don't PM a user in the channel without asking first.
[10:03] <Electrolyte> ....?
[10:05] <mac_> beryl sounds too much like that stuff you have to drink so they can xray you
[10:05] <Electrolyte> LOL, I never thought about that.
[10:05] <mac_> Electrolyte, with that nick, i'd have thought you'd drink it for fun
[10:06] <Electrolyte> Shut it :E
[10:06] <mattik> How do I reinstall all packages with apt?
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> mattik: what do you mean reinstall?
[10:06] <vertana> What do you mean "all packages"?
[10:06] <Admiral_Chicago> what are you trying to do?
[10:06] <mattik> I have cbroken Kubuntu
[10:06] <plhardy> What do mean "How do I" :-)
[10:07] <mattik> broken
[10:07] <zorglu_> mattik: better to install it from scratch
[10:07] <vertana> Ok try "dpkg-reoncfigure -a"
[10:07] <vertana> reconfigure*
[10:07] <mattik> synaptic and gcompriss don't work
[10:07] <mac_> got a little scared on this install.  it kept locking up unitl i got linux-686 installed.  trouble was being fast enough to install it before the lockup :)
[10:07] <Admiral_Chicago> mattik: what do you mean broken, what happened that you / what did you do?
[10:08] <plhardy> mattik: do you have an idea what actions did break your system ?
[10:08] <vertana> Mattik, when you try to install stuff does it say something along the lines of "E: Cannot find package ____" ?
[10:08] <mattik> plhardy: yes I tried to install XP, SuSe and Kubuntu in same computer
[10:08] <mattik> no
[10:09] <Admiral_Chicago> mattik: you can do that, what happened that you think you broke Kubuntu
[10:09] <plhardy> mattik:for XP, if it boot, then it can't XP install that messed up kubuntu
[10:10] <plhardy> mattik:for Suse did you specify different partitions for root / usr / ... ?
[10:10] <Admiral_Chicago> let's just let him explain what happened, not ask too many questions
[10:10] <mattik> I mean / and /home
[10:10] <Admiral_Chicago> tech support over load :P
[10:10] <vertana> Ok mattik... did you install XP or Kubuntu first?
[10:11] <mac_> the M$/suse merger is breaking installs already?
[10:11] <zorglu_> !mbr
[10:11] <vertana> Ms always has
[10:11] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[10:11] <zorglu_> maybe of help
[10:12] <mattik> The first XP, then Kubuntu and after this SusE and after the installing SuSe KUbuntu backs to fixing console and ask to fsck command
[10:12] <Admiral_Chicago> mac_:nice
[10:12] <Admiral_Chicago> mattik: did you try sudo fsck -a
[10:12] <mattik> no
[10:12] <plhardy> mattik: order was fine, did you shared partition between Suse install and Kubuntu ?
[10:12] <mattik> swap
[10:13] <plhardy> this is fine then.
[10:13] <mattik> was that error?
[10:13] <mattik> Or why SuSe 10.2 broke my Kubuntu
[10:14] <skreet> mattik: grub?
[10:14] <plhardy> no excepting if you are using suspend mode (for swap), i just think you faced perhaps hd problems ?
[10:14] <zorglu_> mattik: describe what you mean by 'broke'
[10:14] <Trollinator> mattik: that doesn't matter much for Suse is better than Ubuntu anyway
[10:14] <zorglu_> mattik: what is broken
[10:15] <skreet> I should try SuSE some time
[10:15] <skreet> I hear good things
[10:15] <parph> better is subjective
[10:15] <zorglu_> hmm amarok 1.4.3 got a bug in the osd
[10:15] <mattik> SuSe recognize my hard disk as sata
[10:15] <mattik> and they are hd
[10:15] <Admiral_Chicago> zorglu_: whats the bug?
[10:15] <zorglu_> i wish people aims more for stability and less for fancy feature
[10:16] <Admiral_Chicago> Sata is HD, do you mean IDE?
[10:16] <mattik> yes
[10:16] <tito> some body can show the best repositories Universal and MultiUniversal ?
[10:16] <vertana> zorg: get Amarok 1.44
[10:16] <vertana> 1.4.4*
[10:16] <zorglu_> Admiral_Chicago: when it switch from one song to another, it display very shortly ( < 0.2sec) the previous name and then the new name
[10:16] <parph> what do people make of that novell/suse/microsoft deal
[10:16] <mattik>  I mean /dev/hda was /dev/sda
[10:16] <tito> some body can show the best repositories Universal and MultiUniversal ?
[10:16] <zorglu_> vertana: is this bug fixed ?
[10:16] <parph> is it a deal with.....the Devil!
[10:16] <Admiral_Chicago> !repo > tito
[10:16] <vontux> is it possible to screw up "su" without screwing up "sudo" on the command line?
[10:16] <vertana> I do not know, I never experienced that, but try the new version (they fixed ~100 bugs they said) and see if it is fixed.
[10:16] <zorglu_> vertana: before i was running 1.3.9 and it didnt have this bug
[10:17] <vertana> If not, then submit an official report.
[10:17] <binary2k2> zorglu_: I'm running amarok 1.4.3 and don't have that bug
[10:17] <Admiral_Chicago> zorglu_: did you check LP
[10:17] <zorglu_> vertana: hehe :) did they say how many new bug were introduced ? :)
[10:17] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[10:17] <vertana> I do know that it doesn't bog down my cpu like 1.4.3 did ^^
[10:17] <zorglu_> Admiral_Chicago: LP ?
[10:17] <Admiral_Chicago> lanchpad.not
[10:17] <Bubba_Gump> amarok takes 800mhz i think
[10:17] <Admiral_Chicago> net*
[10:17] <mattik> this is error
[10:17] <mattik> fsck.ext3: Unable to resolve 'UUID=b0a4889e-afaa-488b-9fd7-8a20429d5f95'
[10:17] <parph> is the latest kubuntu release buggy or is it a solid release all in all
[10:18] <zorglu_> binary2k2: hmm ok interesting... maybe because i just installed it, maybe it require to reboot or something
[10:18] <Admiral_Chicago> mattik: edgy?
[10:18] <vertana> I have a 2.1Ghz Athlon XP and Amarok used to take an unusually long time to load for me, but now it's fine with 1.4.4
[10:18] <zorglu_> Admiral_Chicago: nope i havnt
[10:18] <max_> hi, is there a way to reinstall kubuntu and still keep all your files (mp3's, movies, etc)?
[10:18] <Admiral_Chicago> max_: why do you need to reinstall+
[10:18] <mattik> yes
[10:19] <max_> i want to start over
[10:19] <Bubba_Gump> yeah how is this done?
[10:19] <plhardy> max_:yes that's why it is better to create two different partitions, one for system / and one other for /home all your datas are put on /home and this is not required to be formatted to be reinstalled
[10:20] <max_> but i have a super small drive
[10:20] <Admiral_Chicago> max_: any reason in particular
[10:20] <mattik> Admiral_Chicago: I thik I don't try more betas in this hardware :(
[10:20] <plhardy> max_:have you already different partitions ?
[10:20] <Admiral_Chicago> mattik: edgy isn't a beta
[10:20] <Admiral_Chicago> it's stable
[10:20] <vontux> what are the command line commands for changing the password?
[10:20] <mattik> Admiral_Chicago: I mean SuSe
[10:20] <plhardy> max_: copy all your data on a cd or a dvd ...
[10:21] <max_> so there isnt a way to reinstall kde and keep files??
[10:21] <LjL> vontux: passwd
[10:21] <Admiral_Chicago> mattik: oh well if i was you, i'd stick with kubuntu and maybe XP. i
[10:21] <vontux> LjL, thankyou
[10:21] <Admiral_Chicago> maybe XP
[10:21] <Whitelighter> has any one else seen sector read errors when booting the livecd?
[10:22] <mattik> Admiral_Chicago: OK :)
[10:22] <plhardy> max_:if you have alrready two differents partitions it is possible to reinstall the whole system without breaking data
[10:22] <max_> since my drive is so small i only did one partition
[10:22] <plhardy> max_:your are in shit then.
[10:22] <binary2k2> Whitelighter: what's the error?
[10:22] <Zaire> this is what this guy thinks sudo does <Shadow_mil> Zaire: because it will do things like set your config file to the root user, put your config files in /root and otehr bad stuff
[10:22] <_Shade_> Whitelighter: it happens often for me... despite the cd is ok
[10:23] <mattik> Admiral_Chicago: Do you know how do I fix this error in filesystem?
[10:23] <max_> nah, ill burn to a DVD
[10:23] <max_> can someone recomend a good DVD burner?
[10:23] <hume> hi...how do I start KDE from my xinitrc-script? with startx?
[10:23] <Trollinator> max_ stwf
[10:23] <hume> k3b?
[10:23] <vontux> LjL: lets say that at some time I tried a passwd command, but didn't complete it, is it possible that it would prevent me from using "su" with my root password, but not screw up the root password for sudo?
[10:23] <hollywoodb> hume: try startkde
[10:23] <Whitelighter> binary2k2: hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[10:23] <Admiral_Chicago> mattik: i'm still not sure i know the error
[10:23] <plhardy> max_: it is possible to just use apt tool to request adding or removing software, perhaps a full reinstall is not needed
[10:23] <Trollinator> stfw i mean
[10:23] <hume> exec startkde or just startkde?
[10:24] <hollywoodb> max_: I've had good luck with NEC burners
[10:24] <LjL> vontux: entirely possible, since they're two different passwords
[10:24] <hollywoodb> hume: exec
[10:24] <hume> ok
[10:24] <Whitelighter> binary2k2: followed by hdc: command error: error=0x51 { IllegalLengthIndication LastFailSense=0x05 }
[10:24] <mattik> Admiral_Chicago: If I restart Kubuntu I come back in fix console
[10:24] <skreet> Citrix for Linux = Happy
[10:24] <max_> hollywoodb: can i get that in adept?
[10:25] <Admiral_Chicago> mattik: you said sudo fsck -a didn't work
[10:25] <sparrwork> I installed kubuntu.  I ran OpenGL screensavers very nicely.  I did a package upgrade, and installed a few new things.  Two reboots later I notice my OpenGL screensavers are running software-ishly slow.  glxinfo says "Direct Rendering: no".  Help?
[10:25] <hollywoodb> max_: if adept sells NEC burners i suppose you could but I don't believe it does... for software use K3B
[10:25] <binary2k2> Whitelighter: it may be the the media is dammaged, scrached or something
[10:25] <binary2k2> Whitelighter: have you tryed with another disk?
[10:25] <mattik> Admiral_Chicago: It gave error what you can see above
[10:25] <plhardy> max_:get K3b this is good cd/dvd burner software
[10:26] <Admiral_Chicago> mattik: sudo fsck
[10:26] <mattik> same error
[10:26] <hollywoodb> does kubuntu ship with ipw2200 firmware, is there a packages, or do I need to get it from http://ipw2200.sf.net ?
[10:26] <Whitelighter> binary2k2: I've tryed re-burning makes no difference, does it both on i386 and amd64
[10:27] <mattik> Do I have to boot in livecd
[10:27] <plhardy> mattik:sudo fsck /dev/hda1 ?
[10:27] <binary2k2> Whitelighter: re-burning on the same disk, or a differnt one?
[10:27] <Zaire> tell me how could sudo possible change a files ownership if your not using the chowm command lol
[10:27] <Zaire> chown*
[10:28] <Admiral_Chicago> mattik: no
[10:28] <Whitelighter> binary2k2: it only happens at one sector (repeats 8 times) but its different for each arch. Yes different disks and difference media suppliers
[10:28] <mattik> plhardy: It runs in hdc2 thanks :)
[10:28] <vontux> anybody every screw up "su" so that their password doesn't work for login, but it still works for "sudo"?
[10:28] <binary2k2> Whitelighter: did you check the md5sum of the ISO image bedore you burn it?
[10:29] <Zaire> Im just curious about that cause some guy in the ubuntu-xgl channel seems to think when you use sudo on gui configs that it writes ownership to root lol
[10:29] <plhardy> mattik: you should run it on the root filesystem
[10:29] <binary2k2> Whitelighter: and after it burned to?
[10:29] <Whitelighter> binary2k2: checked the checksum both after downloading and after burning, both correct
[10:29] <vontux> Zaire: are you refering to my question, or somebody elses?
[10:29] <binary2k2> Whitelighter: hmm, then it may be a hardware issue
[10:30] <mattik> plhardy: My root is /dev/hdc2
[10:30] <Whitelighter> binary2k2: to me it seems to be related to the kernel in some way
[10:30] <plhardy> mattik: then you are right
[10:30] <Zaire> neither lol Im just wondering about what this ditz in the ubuntu xgl channel said lol
[10:30] <mattik> thank you for help :)
[10:30] <Zaire> he thinks that using sudo changes file ownership and permissions solely to root
[10:31] <binary2k2> Whitelighter: that's also possible, maybe a driver issue or something
[10:31] <vontux> Zaire: as in "sudo filename" and bam, only root file ownership? perhaps you should inform him otherwise
[10:31] <binary2k2> Whitelighter: I haven't seen that error before myself so I don't really know how else to help here
[10:32] <Zaire> yeps thats what he think and I tried to tell him it doesn't but he wont listen lol
[10:32] <vontux> Zaire: send him links
[10:32] <Whitelighter> binary2k2: hmm, strange thing is that is does it on both my dvd writer and my laptops dvdrom
[10:32] <Zaire> dunno any lol
[10:32] <parph> http://www.redhat.com/promo/believe/
[10:32] <plhardy> Zaire: sudo gives root right to programs that are allowed, then they will use root rights to creates their files...
[10:32] <Zaire> but that sure is an id10t error lol
[10:32] <vontux> I wish I have some idea of what I did to screw up my "su" command
[10:33] <Zaire> root already has rights to all files though
[10:33] <Admiral_Chicago> mattik: did that work?
[10:33] <Zaire> so the statement is kinda redundant
[10:33] <Whitelighter> binary2k2: maybe most people don't see the messages. it would normally be hidden behind the splash screen
[10:33] <vontux> plhardy: any idea as to what I could possibly have done to screw up "su" so that it doesn't accept my root password, but so that "sudo" still does?
[10:33] <plhardy> Zaire: if you do a sudo touch x, x will have root persmissions but of course if you do sudo x you will just run x...
[10:34] <mattik> Admiral_Chicago: yes but after fsck it gave same error 'UUID=b0a4889e-afaa-488b-9fd7-8a20429d5f95'
[10:34] <binary2k2> Whitelighter: yeah, have you asked on the forums yet? you may get more answers there as more people will see it.
[10:34] <Admiral_Chicago> ma
[10:34] <Zaire> sudo is just a way to give a normal account temp root permissions from my understanding
[10:34] <Admiral_Chicago> mattik: seems like your fstab is gone bonkers
[10:34] <Admiral_Chicago> mattik: did you try booting into recovery mode?
[10:35] <mattik> yes, it runs right
[10:35] <plhardy> vontux: sudo passwd should help you to reset your root password
[10:35] <mattik> but what I do after this
[10:35] <Zaire> from my understanding the only time sudo can change permissions is in the event chown and chmod are used
[10:35] <plhardy> vontux: su need a root password to work, sudo uses your user password...
[10:36] <oceanis> im trying to install kubuntu dapper
[10:36] <oceanis> i have win xp in this box
[10:36] <oceanis> but when im trying to boot is says
[10:36] <Whitelighter> binary2k2: no I haven't posted on the forum as yet. I did see a similar post by someone else, however there was no response. just trying to find it again.
[10:36] <oceanis> cannot boot try cd 2 or update the bios
[10:36] <oceanis> wtf?
[10:36] <plhardy> Zaire: sudo script.sh can do it if script.sh contains chown, chmod or any script/programm that access permissions api.
[10:36] <oceanis> i think theres no CD 2
[10:37] <Zaire> but don't you have to use sudo more or less if you want to edit files like the xorg.conf or sources.list
[10:37] <oceanis> anyone will help me
[10:37] <Admiral_Chicago> oceanis: did you check your BIOS settings? not to update it but are you booting from the cd
[10:38] <oceanis> yes im booting from cd
[10:38] <oceanis> settings are
[10:38] <Admiral_Chicago> mattik: paste your fstab
[10:38] <oceanis>  CDROM - C - FLOPY
[10:38] <Admiral_Chicago> oceanis: okay then i have no clue
[10:38] <oceanis> so what to do
[10:39] <oceanis> i tryit kubuntu and ubuntu dapper
[10:39] <oceanis> no one want to boot
[10:39] <gemidjy> back to dapper, phew, edgy is nightmare
[10:39] <plhardy> oceanis: if possible checks md5sum of your cd to verify it was well burned.
[10:39] <hollywoodb> gemidjy: howso?
[10:39] <gemidjy> well, there were many anoying things
[10:39] <oceanis> i cant understand you
[10:39] <oceanis> im new in this
[10:40] <gemidjy> hardware recognition, flash issues (which can't be passed to flash/adobe since It is ok with dapper), speed, stability, etc..
[10:40] <mattik> Admiral_Chicago: Any things show not running I boot recovery mode first
[10:42] <DralaFi> hi. Kubuntu uses an initiramdisk.  Can I bypass this?
[10:42] <Delphinus> i'm trying to google for the problem where your network interfaces do not load up at startup... and you have to ifdown then ifup them... but cant seem to find the topic, can anyone help me with this please?
[10:42] <oceanis> so no one wants to help me
[10:43] <mc_> hi guys,i have a problem with apt-get itrs trying to configure a package eacht time i install package,and it always fails,how do tell apt-get to let the package unconfigured?
[10:43] <Admiral_Chicago> mc_: what package
[10:43] <mc_> Admiral_Chicago: vmware
[10:43] <LjL> mc_: show me your sources.list please
[10:43] <LjL> !pastebin
[10:43] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:44] <Admiral_Chicago> mc_: edgy?
[10:44] <Whitelighter> binary2k2: just booted up the livecd for 6.06.1 - that also did the same. it seems it happens just before the ISO 9660 Extensions: MS Joliet Level 3 message
[10:44] <mc_> Admiral_Chicago: yes
[10:44] <plhardy> oceanis: with what did you burn your cds ?
[10:45] <oceanis> nero
[10:45] <oceanis> but i tryed that cds
[10:45] <binary2k2> Whitelighter: will the system continue to boot with the errors?
[10:45] <oceanis> in other machine they worked
[10:45] <Admiral_Chicago> mc_: vmware is having problems with edgy
[10:46] <Admiral_Chicago> hold on i'll help you out with a link
[10:46] <plhardy> oceanis: ok, then if it is not the cd, this is either the cdrom or the bios/motheboard...
[10:46] <mc_> Admiral_Chicago: i dont wont to get vmware running,i just want apt-get to ignore vmware
[10:46] <Admiral_Chicago> mc_: http://mindwarp.net/?p=28
[10:46] <oceanis> well bbl trying
[10:46] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't know if it'll help but i hope it does
[10:46] <mc_> Admiral_Chicago: alright,thank you
[10:46] <binary2k2> mc_: if you don't want vmware, then just uninstall it
[10:47] <Whitelighter> binary2k2: yes it seems fine. Just not good to see a read error showing up. If it's a bug, it would be nice to get it fixed.
[10:47] <mc_> binary2k2: but it is not yet installed
[10:47] <mc_> binary2k2: apt-get trys installing it but it fails all the time
[10:47] <mc_> binary2k2: and i dont know how to stop apt-get from trying
[10:47] <LjL> mc_, can you paste your sources.list please? and the error apt-get gives?
[10:47] <plhardy> vontux: did sudo passwd helped you ?
[10:48] <DralaFi> Can kubuntu function with no initrd? (of course I know that Linux can work with no initrd)
[10:48] <binary2k2> mc_: it may be installed, but not confugured, so you can try "sudo apt-get --purge remove vmware"
[10:48] <binary2k2> Whitelighter: maybe you should put a bug report on launchpad.net
[10:49] <Hawkwind> mc_: There was a huge discussion on the Kubuntu-users ML about this over the last 2 days where someone had the very same problem
[10:49] <mc_> binary2k2: thank you very much,that did the trick
[10:49] <binary2k2> mc_: great
[10:50] <Whitelighter> binary2k2: yes maybe. will do some more investigation, see if I can dig anymore info up. Thanks for help.
[10:50] <plhardy> DralaFi: i am intersted by answer to your question too, i would think no recent distro could work without initrd due to modules needed to recognize hardware...
[10:50] <binary2k2> Whitelighter: sorry i couldn't help more, good luck with it
[10:50] <m0ns00n> Ljl: Please refrain from making me private messages about your improper ettiquette.....
[10:50] <Whitelighter> binary2k2: thanks
[10:50] <sledge_at_work> Another annoying bug is when installing xorg-xserver, I sometimes get a window "The nice value has to be between -20 and 19." You click OK, and it comes back. You click OK again, and it comes back again. It actually doesn't go away at all.
[10:51] <JakubS> DralaFi: if you compile your own kernel, suer
[10:51] <JakubS> s/suer/sure/
[10:51] <Hawkwind> m0ns00n: ??
[10:51] <LjL> m0ns00n: sorry? you changed your nick to an away nick, AFAIK that's against the channel guidelines. you're at fault, certainly not i.
[10:51] <sledge_at_work> :)
[10:51] <DralaFi> plhardy, no all recent distros should work without initrd.
[10:51] <Hawkwind> LjL: No it's not
[10:51] <LjL> Hawkwind: i sent him !away some time ago
[10:51] <JakubS> DralaFi: they would need at least drivers for all disk controllers compiled in
[10:51] <[cf] nAWAY> re
[10:52] <DralaFi> JakubS, yes I'm going to compile my own kernel, just wanted to know if kubuntu has something in the init procedure of the distro that absolutely requires that initrd was loaded.
[10:52] <hollywoodb> http://soren.overgaard.org/writings/irc-away-message
[10:52] <JakubS> DralaFi: nope, i use self-compiled kernel without initrd too (need it for proper suspend)
[10:52] <DralaFi> JakubS, I've compiled so many kernels that I can't recall how many.
[10:52] <DralaFi> JakubS, thanks very much.
[10:53] <sparrwork> I lost 3D acceleration on my intel 865 a couple of reboots ago.  glxinfo says "direct rendering: no".  i tried manual "modprobe i810fb" and restart X to no avail.  hints?
[10:53] <plhardy> JakubS: you manage to put all the drivers you wanted (sound, network, usb ... ) without modules ?
[10:55] <JakubS> i use modules for non-essential stuff (pretty everything except for sata driver and root filesystem driver)
[10:55] <tobias> how do i make the video player inside firefox load a reasonable amount of the video it is streaming so it is not like chopped up into pieces the whole video
[10:56] <tobias> What I am wondering is how to set the buffer i believe?
[10:56] <tobias> or something
[10:56] <DralaFi> Also, anyone know how to test to see if 3d acceleration is supported by the intel 915GM chipset? I'm getting rubbish performance, and also have reason to believe that I'm only getting 7MB of video RAM for the GFX card (according to Xorg log).
[10:57] <JakubS> glxinfo
[10:57] <n8k99> is there anything i can do to get powermanager to recognize my battery?
[10:57] <JakubS> i have i915 too and also noticed poor performance (15fps in enemy territory at lowest settings)
[10:57] <JakubS> i remember it was much more several months ago
[10:57] <DralaFi> glxinfo says direct rendering: yes
[10:58] <DralaFi> but i have only 7mb ram for it??
[10:58] <mattik> Admiral_Chicago: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30100/
[10:58] <DralaFi> kubuntu's build of glxgears doesn't show frames per sec
[10:58] <sparrwork> DralaFi: it shares ram with the sstem
[10:58] <sparrwork> DralaFi: very annoying, that.  (no fps thing)
[10:58] <JakubS> DralaFi: glxgears -printfps
[10:58] <DralaFi> sparrwork, I know.
[10:59] <mattik> I can't boot in recovery mode
[10:59] <n8k99> powermanager cycles between battery removed and battery inserted - without any interaction on my part
[10:59] <magicmike> Hi. Does jende hang out around here anymore?
[10:59] <m0ns00n> LjL: Well, the channel isn't the only one I'm on
[10:59] <DralaFi> sparrwork, I tried to make it use 64MB from system, but the xorg log seems to say there was mem allocation failure.
[10:59] <gemidjy> I have both dapper and edgy cds, and I run Dapper, can I upgrade only KDE on Dapper, to kde 3.5.5 from edgy's CD ?
[11:00] <m0ns00n> LjL: So either the rules will be bent or I'll just stop coming here
[11:00] <DralaFi> hmm, 125fps
[11:00] <sparrwork> DralaFi: could be worse...  my i865 ran great for one boot, now i dont have acceleration at all  :)
[11:01] <JakubS> DralaFi: then it _really_ sucks, i get ~800fps
[11:01] <JakubS> you can try LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxgears and watch for errors
[11:02] <DralaFi> JakubS, 125fps maximised for 1024x768
[11:02] <JakubS> ah, maximized
[11:02] <sparrwork> dont maximize it
[11:02] <sparrwork> no one can duplicate your data
[11:02] <sparrwork> the default size is the reference point
[11:02] <DralaFi> ok, trying again
[11:02] <sparrwork> i get 800fps in glxgears, thats software on a p4 2.8ish
[11:02] <parph> i'm thinking of trying out kubuntu for the first time. Is there anything I should know about the latest release?
[11:02] <JakubS> sparrwork: also i915?
[11:02] <sparrwork> hardware glxgears should get 2000+ on shitty OLD 3d accelerators, like a riva tnt
[11:03] <sparrwork> JakubS: i865 for me
[11:03] <sparrwork> parph: no more than about any other release
[11:03] <JakubS> well, i remember getting >2000 (or was it >4000?) on geforce2mx
[11:03] <sparrwork> yeah
[11:03] <DralaFi> JakubS, sparrwork: ~930fps on i915GM, centrino 1.7MHz
[11:03] <sparrwork> modern hardware will spit out bazillions of frames when your drivers are working
[11:04] <JakubS> so your results are comparable to mine
[11:04] <JakubS> hell with glxgears, i want my quake2 with more than 5fps!
[11:04] <sledge_at_work> I'm only getting ~400fps with fglrx and mobility radeon9600 :(
[11:05] <mc_> JakubS: you need to set up dri
[11:05] <gemidjy> sledge_at_work: lucky you got so far
[11:05] <mc_> get a good gfx-card www.nvidia.com,nvidia driver support rocks
[11:05] <gemidjy> sledge_at_work: try using the free 'ati' driver, not that will increase the fps dramaticly but it will be free anyway, and sometimes it is better, yes
[11:05] <JakubS> mc_: gladly, i wonder how will i stick it into my laptop then though :-)
[11:06] <sledge_at_work> gemidjy: Does the free one support 3d hw accel?
[11:06] <gemidjy> anyone has RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro ?
[11:06] <mc_> gemidjy: i had one
[11:06] <gemidjy> sledge_at_work: yes
[11:06] <JakubS> mc_: looks like dri is working, for example aiglx+beryl gives great results
[11:06] <gemidjy> mc_: how's its support for *nix ?
[11:06] <mc_> JakubS: strange
[11:06] <sledge_at_work> gemidjy: how good is it though? ;)
[11:07] <mc_> gemidjy: its great,you hast have to use the legacy drivers
[11:07] <JakubS> very, most strange is that i remember games actually working ok several months ago
[11:07] <gemidjy> sledge_at_work: as I said, not drastic diff but better if u ask me
[11:07] <JakubS> i guess it is time to check it with some livecd
[11:07] <mc_> gemidjy:  i could watch nice movies with my Riva TNT 2 Ultra,on my amd k6-2 300mhz
[11:08] <mc_> gemidjy: xv is supported
[11:09] <[cf] nAWAY> re
[11:11] <parph> can i have kubuntu take over using my current home directory? I have another distro now and was wondering if I could use the same home directory without problems
[11:11] <chx> what's the easiest way to NAT? I have an incoming cable, and two Ethernet cardds
[11:11] <parph> Like all my kmail files and my konquerer bookmarks are in there
[11:11] <bigleon> Hey
[11:12] <[cf] nightrid3r> parph: is youre /home on a separate partition
[11:12] <parph> yeah
[11:12] <[cf] nightrid3r> then you can :)
[11:12] <parph> nice!
[11:12] <bigleon> When ever your done helping Current Person, I was looking into knowing how I can play Conquer Strike on my Kubuntu OS
[11:12] <nnn0> but you should move all he hidden files
[11:12] <parph> how come nnn?
[11:13] <nnn0> so it doesn't fuck up the kde
[11:13] <nnn0> trhen after you have installed it
[11:13] <parph> oh like delete every hidden file?
[11:13] <nnn0> you can move back whatever you need
[11:13] <parph> oh ok
[11:13] <nnn0> no not delete, just move them to another dir
[11:13] <[cf] nightrid3r> parph: just install with manual partioning and use the old partitions and format everething except /home
[11:14] <parph> the only thing i'm worring about is losing my bookmarks and mail files
[11:16] <dmhouse> Hi guys. Which package should I be looking for to install the PECL PHP extension program? Searching Adept yields nothing.
[11:16] <parph> does kubuntu use a root account or does it use that other method I can't remember
[11:17] <binary2k2> sudo
[11:17] <plhardy> parph: copy you old home user directory to another directory (or tar.gz'ip it) to able to recover it if any problem occur.
[11:17] <parph> ah sudo
[11:19] <bigleon> So is anyone open to give service?
[11:20] <mahognyy> hi, I had installed ubuntu, but want to try kubuntu, so I "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop", I restarted and kubuntu login loaded, but then I come to the same old ubuntu interface?
[11:21] <bigleon> Meh mahogny i think their busy i'm still waiting on support
[11:21] <binary2k2> mahognyy: you have to choose KDE from the login menu
[11:21] <bigleon> or not.
[11:21] <mahognyy> where I type login/pass?
[11:22] <chx> how can i make Beryl run instead of kwin?
[11:22] <bigleon> I have a Question, I was trying to figure out how to play Microsoft games, on Kubuntu. (Counter Strike and Age of Empires)
[11:22] <binary2k2> mahognyy: same place as you normaly do, just choose KDE from the session menu
[11:22] <binary2k2> bigleon: have you tryed wine?
[11:23] <bigleon> I looked at it. But it was confusing and i wasn't sure what to do
[11:23] <bigleon> I'm rather new to linux Envrioment
[11:23] <mahognyy> don't know about a seession menu
[11:23] <mahognyy> thought first time I try this
[11:23] <mahognyy> I'll reboot and see what I get
[11:23] <mahognyy> thanks
[11:24] <bigleon> http://www.winehq.com/site/download-deb I'm wanting Wine on this page correct?
[11:24] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[11:25] <bigleon> It has these two types called Ubuntu Dapper and Ubuntu Breezy and i i'm not sure which to pick. sence i'm using Kubuntu
[11:25] <binary2k2> bigleon: yeah, or you could install wine from Adept or Synaptic
[11:25] <minterior> hi!
[11:25] <bigleon> not a clue what Adept or Synaptic is XD
[11:26] <bigleon> I found adept
[11:26] <bigleon> i'm running program now
[11:26] <binary2k2> bigleon: they are package managers, if you click on the  K-menu, then go to System and click on Adept
[11:26] <binary2k2> bigleon: oh, :P
[11:26] <binary2k2> bigleon: in there, search for wine
[11:27] <bigleon> nothing game up
[11:27] <minterior> I have a problem with my directory's names. I've just installed kubuntu edgy eft (a new install) and now I see wrong some directory names with special chars like 
[11:27] <bigleon> came*
[11:27] <ryanakca> since system settings' monitor & display is broken, how do I change the screen resolution without restarting X?
[11:27] <minterior> my before locales where iso-8859-1 and now are utf-8
[11:27] <minterior> what should I do to arrange that?
[11:27] <binary2k2> bigleon: you need to enable the universe repositorys
[11:27] <binary2k2> bigleon: I'll find you the help link with info on that
[11:27] <sparrwork> I installed kubuntu and had working OpenGL rendering, fast OGL screensavers.  A package upgrade (small) and a couple of non-critical package installations later i reboot a couple of times and now no 3D acceleration.  Where should I look to find the problem?
[11:28] <ninnghizidha> Hello. Got two gestions reguarding kde. How can i cahnge from GDM to KDE?
[11:28] <bigleon> Alright
[11:29] <binary2k2> bigleon: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:29] <OOD> ninnghizidha: http://knowledge76.com/index.php/Display_Manager:_Switch_Between_GDM_and_KDM
[11:30] <binary2k2> bigleon: you enable the universe repository, click Fetch Updates, then search for wine again
[11:31] <Lars_G> I must report that Kubuntu edgy works like a charm so far
[11:31] <ninnghizidha> thanks a lot!
[11:31] <minterior> I have a problem with my directory's names. I've just installed kubuntu edgy eft (a new install) and now I see wrong some directory names with special chars like 
[11:31] <minterior> my before locales where iso-8859-1 and now are utf-8. what should I do to arrange that?
[11:31] <minterior> were
[11:31] <OOD> ninnghizidha: np
[11:31] <Lars_G> minterior: There's a tool to recode file names to new locales, but I forgot the name
[11:31] <kjcole> Hi,  anyone familiar with korganizer?  It's misbehaving for me under Edgy.  (Was fine under Dapper.)
[11:32] <Lars_G> minterior: You can search "locale" in freshmeat to see if you find it. Sorry :(
[11:32] <minterior> Lars_G: mmmmm, ok thx!
[11:32] <fdoving> minterior,lars_g you can try 'utf8-migration-tool' (that's the package name).
[11:32] <Lars_G> fdoving: Ah good advice
[11:32] <Lars_G> I might try to go utf-8 too
[11:32] <Lars_G> soon
[11:33] <JakubS> hm, i somehow managed to get enemy territory to run faster (~30fps instead of ~15fps)
[11:33] <bigleon> binary2k2 Once I down load the file from Adept will it auto install it for my use?
[11:33] <Lars_G> JakubS: Tell me how
[11:33] <bigleon> Or is there Further Configuration?
[11:33] <binary2k2> bigleon: yes, it will set itself up
[11:34] <Zaire[AFK] > what sources do you have to add for restricted formats?
[11:34] <JakubS> i added Option "VideoRam" "32768" to xorg.conf but log says it is ignored anyway
[11:34] <bigleon> So with wine My computer should be set for playing windows games?
[11:34] <JakubS> so i have no idea why it is now faster :-)
[11:34] <binary2k2> bigleon: It will work with some, but not all
[11:35] <minterior> fdoving: oooooooh, great!!! thank you very very much! xD
[11:35] <JakubS> still 5fps in quake2 though :-(
[11:35] <minterior> I've already installed it :P
[11:35] <instructor> Hmm I can't get X to start
[11:35] <binary2k2> bigleon: the best way to get all the games working is, sorry to say, use vmware or qemu to start windows in a virtual machine
[11:36] <bigleon> Are those also provided by Adebpt?
[11:36] <soulrider> !teamspeak
[11:36] <bigleon> adept*
[11:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about teamspeak - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:36] <soulrider> damn
[11:36] <soulrider> anyone here uses teamspeak ?
[11:36] <soulrider> i cant get my sound working
[11:36] <binary2k2> bigleon: vmware-player is
[11:36] <bigleon> on windows XD
[11:36] <bigleon> kk thanks binary.
[11:37] <binary2k2> bigleon: you'll need a windows inatall CD to install windows in vmware
[11:37] <bigleon> I have a compaq, it has a recovery consle of windows in a 5gb partion. will that work?
[11:38] <binary2k2> bigleon: probably not, i haven't tryed to use a partition to install windows in vmware
[11:38] <JakubS> heh, it is time to stop fooling around with xorg options and enjoy some enemy territory :-)
[11:38] <bigleon> Hmm Do i need Pro or Home ED windows? I know i got a pro disk around here some where XD
[11:39] <binary2k2> bigleon: either will work
[11:39] <bigleon> Thats good. I'll try using that partition just for tests sake :D.
[11:39] <bigleon> and get back to ya on possible success
[11:40] <Bubba_Gump> mmm
[11:40] <Bubba_Gump> mash potatoe
[11:40] <binary2k2> bigleon: I found a help page that you may find useful here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMWarePlayerAndWindowsHOWTO
[11:41] <bigleon> Thanks, I'll bookmark it :D
[11:41] <Zaire[AFK] > ummm how do you enable restricted formats in edgy?
[11:42] <bigleon> Another question
[11:42] <bigleon> wait nvm
[11:42] <bigleon> Wait nvm again
[11:42] <binary2k2> Zaire[AFK] : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[11:42] <bigleon> Alright
[11:42] <bigleon> Question is I'm trying to find my C:/ folder to make my way to progrmas folder
[11:42] <bigleon> and err i can't find it
[11:42] <Zaire[AFK] > yea Im on their and none of the stuff is recognised by apt
[11:43] <kjcole> Anyone know why korganizer's reminder daemon taskbar icon no longer opens korganizer?  (Worked in Dapper.  Doesn't in Edgy.)
[11:43] <Zaire[AFK] > I enabled the restricted main backports to
[11:43] <binary2k2> bigleon: is the partition mounted?
[11:44] <bigleon> Explain
[11:44] <bigleon> kubuntu has its own partition
[11:44] <bigleon> i got a 160 and gave linux 75 Gb's of Free space
[11:44] <bigleon> it made like 3 partitions a "swap" and a root and something else
[11:45] <binary2k2> bigleon: is the windows partition mounted (so you can browse it)?
[11:45] <bigleon> not sure.
[11:45] <binary2k2> Zaire: did you enable universe and multiverse?
[11:45] <instructor>  can I just remove a XAuthorityfile and It will be recreated?
[11:46] <bigleon> The game installed to my Linux Partition
[11:46] <Zaire> yes I enabled the universe-multiverse backports
[11:46] <binary2k2> bigleon: look in /media and the subdirectories
[11:46] <instructor> I can't get a GUI Login
[11:46] <binary2k2> Zaire: did you update apt then "sudo apt-get update"?
[11:46] <Zaire> yeps
[11:47] <bigleon> it wasn't there
[11:47] <binary2k2> Zaire: if you search for "libxine-extracodecs" what do you see?
[11:48] <Zaire> don't know how to search
[11:48] <binary2k2> bigleon: do you know what partition the windows one is?
[11:48] <bigleon> Sorry about that it crashed me
[11:48] <binary2k2> Zaire: apt-cache search libxine-extracodecs
[11:48] <bigleon> partion has only been formated with NFTS and its Partition 2
[11:48] <instructor> How doI debuga missing X server?
[11:49] <bigleon>  "/home/bigleon/.wine/dosdevices/c:/Program Files/Valve"   could this be important to finding location
[11:50] <bigleon> yeah i found it now :D
[11:50] <bigleon> i'm gonna try and run program
[11:50] <binary2k2> bigleon: ok
[11:51] <binary2k2> Zaire: did you try the search command?
[11:51] <Cyron> Can someone help me with Kmail?  Using an IMAP account, the filters are working fine when I first open the program, but they don't apply on the periodical updates from that point on
[11:51] <bigleon> Alright it kicked me and unlogged me
[11:51] <Zaire> yeps nothing happened cept I dropped down a line
[11:51] <Cyron> What am I missing
[11:51] <Cyron> ?
[11:51] <bigleon> so i had to log in when trying to use cilent. It first tried to launch in GL mode then tried again in software mode. Should I consider this game un play-able then?
[11:52] <binary2k2> Zaire: can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:53] <binary2k2> bigleon: it may be, what game is it?
[11:53] <bigleon> Counter Strike 1.6
[11:54] <bigleon> if anything i can just go install windows on my other partition and set it up there
[11:54] <Zaire> binary2k2:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30108/
[11:55] <binary2k2> bigleon: it may be easier that using wine
[11:55] <bigleon> i think i'll go ahead and do that
[11:55] <bigleon> Thanks Binary.
[11:56] <binary2k2> bigleon: np
[11:56] <max_> i was trying to backup my files and i noticed my HD is full but i only have 2 gig of files, can KDE really take up the other 4.5gb on my drive? or is somthing wrong ther
[11:56] <max_> e
[11:57] <parph> downloading kubuntu dvd
[11:57] <binary2k2> you need change the line with ..."edgy universe" to have "edgy universe multiverse"
[11:58] <binary2k2> Zaire: so change it to "deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse"
[11:58] <max_> i was trying to backup my files and i noticed my HD is full but i only have 2 gig of files, can KDE really take up the other 4.5gb on my drive? or is somthing wrong there
[11:58] <Zaire> you mean the backports?
[11:59] <binary2k2> Zaire: no, on the main "edgy" one
[11:59] <Zaire> you mean edgy universe ?
[11:59] <binary2k2> Zaire: yes
[11:59] <binary2k2> Zaire: add "multiverse" to the end of that
[12:01] <binary2k2> Zaire: so it look like this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30109/
[12:01] <Zaire> k I changed it and its still not letting me grab them with apt
[12:02] <binary2k2> Zaire: did you run "sudo apt-get update" after?
[12:02] <Zaire> ah nvm there it goes
[12:02] <Zaire> thanks
[12:02] <binary2k2> Zaire: no problem :D
[12:07] <DralaFi> I can't ping from kubuntu to my desktop, but I can if i boot windows on the same machine. Any ideas? Totally puzzled as to why this is happening.
[12:09] <instructor> Don't have your network card turned on?
[12:09] <DralaFi> i have it and its RUNNING and UP
[12:09] <ryanakca> how do I re-enable ctrl-alt-num(+)/num(-)?