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| Spawn | Can someone Help me with my ATI Driver? I can't get it to load on the OpenGL.. It keeps using Mesa Project...... | 12:22 |
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| tritium | crimsun: have you tried using the line out jack on a docking station with your Thinkpad? I tried, but sound still comes out of the laptop speakers. | 05:27 |
| crimsun | I don't have a dock. | 05:28 |
| tritium | Ah, okay. | 05:28 |
| crimsun | I hope it's not jack sense coming back to bite me in the arse. | 05:28 |
| tritium | dunno | 05:28 |
| tritium | was wondering about jack sense, though | 05:29 |
| crimsun | if it works between hp/speakers, then it's unlikely to be jack sense | 05:29 |
| crimsun | make sure your thinkpad is running the latest bios for that model | 05:29 |
| crimsun | I used to have similar problems on suspend until I updated to a newer bios | 05:30 |
| tritium | It should be the latest. I'll see what more I can find out. | 05:30 |
| jldugger | what audio chipset does the thinkpad use? | 05:33 |
| tritium | I don't recall. I left it at work, so I can't verify. | 05:34 |
| crimsun | what model thinkpad is it? | 05:35 |
| jldugger | well, ive got a toshiba, i was wondering if he had Intel HDA (and if that was supposed to be fixed in HDA) | 05:36 |
| crimsun | I've backported all the HDA fixes that exist in addition to a dozen that are in upstream's queue | 05:36 |
| tritium | crimsun: It's a T43p | 05:36 |
| tritium | 2668G7U, if I recall | 05:37 |
| crimsun | same codec I have, then. | 05:37 |
| crimsun | snd_intel8x0 driver | 05:37 |
| tritium | cool | 05:37 |
| crimsun | ad1981b codec | 05:37 |
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| jldugger | what package would a jack sense bug fall under, usually? | 05:38 |
| crimsun | linux-source-2.6.1x | 05:38 |
| crimsun | there aren't many jack sense bugs remaining | 05:38 |
| crimsun | the ones that are still fluttering about are doing so because there are more serious pin-out issues | 05:39 |
| jldugger | hmm =( | 05:39 |
| crimsun | some are resolved by bios updates | 05:39 |
| tritium | If not jack sense, what might be my problem? | 05:39 |
| tritium | bios aside, since I am fairly certain it's the latest | 05:39 |
| crimsun | tritium: dock interaction | 05:39 |
| jldugger | i notice that my tecra m7 has some wierd volume state persistance, where setting the volume to mute in windows will mute the sound in linux | 05:40 |
| crimsun | right, some machines do that | 05:40 |
| jldugger | that seems wierd to me, that the hardware preserves state like that across boots | 05:41 |
| crimsun | across warm boots? That's not at all surprising. | 05:41 |
| jldugger | define warm | 05:42 |
| crimsun | no powerdown. | 05:42 |
| jldugger | no | 05:42 |
| jldugger | i'll shut it down | 05:42 |
| jldugger | turn it on after being off all night | 05:42 |
| jldugger | problem persists | 05:42 |
| jldugger | i might investigate if pulling the battery solves it | 05:42 |
| crimsun | that's not a problem until you've determined that it's not supposed to act that way. | 05:42 |
| jldugger | i didnt say it was a problem, just that its wierd | 05:43 |
| jldugger | oh | 05:43 |
| jldugger | i guess the problem would be that you cant turn the sound on at all in that state in linux, to my knowledge | 05:43 |
| crimsun | have you verified the behavior with alsa-driver-1.0.13? | 05:45 |
| jldugger | is that feisty? | 05:45 |
| crimsun | no, it's upstream or Debian | 05:46 |
| tritium | good night, crimsun & jldugger | 05:46 |
| jldugger | ah. it hasnt bothered me to the point where id build my own drivers yet. | 05:46 |
| crimsun | all the patches were available prior to Edgy shipping, but understandably Edgy shipped without a fair number of necessary HDA patches | 05:46 |
| crimsun | 'night tritium | 05:47 |
| jldugger | amusing unrelated note: installing network-manager cut like 5 seconds off of bootchart | 05:49 |
| jldugger | probably because it put those 5 seconds into my session | 05:49 |
| jldugger | is there a smart way to go about building and installing alsa-driver-1.0.13? | 05:54 |
| crimsun | yes. apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential && wget ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.13.tar.bz2 && tar xf alsa-driver-1.0.13.tar.bz2 && cd alsa-driver-1.0.13 && ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-debug=full --with-cards=hda-intel --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build && make && sudo make install-modules && sudo depmod -e && | 05:55 |
| crimsun | sudo kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*|sort -r) && sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}' |sort -r) && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel | 05:56 |
| jldugger | damn | 05:59 |
| jldugger | was expecting to get a web page or something | 05:59 |
| jldugger | thats much more useful | 05:59 |
| crimsun | I've only typed that a dozen times today. | 05:59 |
| jldugger | heh | 05:59 |
| jldugger | at least in my terminal, cntl-r will do a search through history ;) | 06:00 |
| crimsun | [esc] / here (zsh-beta) | 06:00 |
| jldugger | hmm. i think that part to kill everything touching audio files might be zsh or something | 06:08 |
| crimsun | it's probably the module list order | 06:10 |
| crimsun | snd_page_alloc is sometimes loaded prior to snd | 06:10 |
| jldugger | i think its kill | 06:10 |
| crimsun | if it gives you a "usage.." message, then it's kill | 06:11 |
| jldugger | because i get the usage dialog | 06:11 |
| jldugger | yea | 06:11 |
| crimsun | (and that syntax is valid sh) | 06:11 |
| jldugger | perhaps it failed the first time because of load order, then when i ran it again, it couldnt find any programs to kill | 06:12 |
| pwnguin | i dont think it needed the reverse sort | 06:14 |
| crimsun | the only sort -r that's necessary is the lsmod one | 06:15 |
| crimsun | the one following lsof is optional but shouldn't throw an error | 06:15 |
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| pwnguin | well, seems to have loaded some stuff, and gnome popped up | 06:16 |
| pwnguin | yea, for some reason, that module remove line only works without error unsorted | 06:19 |
| pwnguin | oh, i guess i should note that i am jldugger | 06:19 |
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| jldugger | no change in behaviors =/ | 06:30 |
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| DrSpin | I can declare 100% OOB compatability with my GQ-ZX5360 (Fry's House Brand) | 10:13 |
| DrSpin | ACPI Issues that were present in Dapper don't exist in Edgy (Have to start the computer on A/C in order be able to unplug it without it suspending | 10:14 |
| DrSpin | WPA doesn't work but I don't think this card supports | 10:14 |
| DrSpin | it | 10:14 |
| DrSpin | I will complain that everytime I switch wireless networks I have to run /etc/init.d/networking restart in order for DNS to update | 10:15 |
| DrSpin | Have noticed this as well if I have to swtich to ETH for whatever reason | 10:17 |
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