=== Linuturk [n=Linuturk@12.11.93.98] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === Linuturk [n=Linuturk@12.11.93.98] has left #ubuntu-laptop ["Leaving"] === Spawn [i=Spawn@66-50-92-170.prtc.net] has joined #ubuntu-laptop [12:22] Can someone Help me with my ATI Driver? I can't get it to load on the OpenGL.. It keeps using Mesa Project...... === Spawn [i=Spawn@66-50-92-170.prtc.net] has left #ubuntu-laptop [] === pianoboy3333 [n=alex@ool-43567d61.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === pianoboy3333 [n=alex@ool-43567d61.dyn.optonline.net] has left #ubuntu-laptop ["Leaving"] === jjesse [i=user@69-87-140-250.async.iserv.net] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === Linuturk_ [n=Linuturk@12.11.93.98] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === Linuturk [n=Linuturk@12.11.93.98] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === quail-laptop [n=quail@unaffiliated/quaillinux/x-000001] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === Linuturk [n=Linuturk@12.11.93.98] has left #ubuntu-laptop ["Leaving"] === kuyky [n=Lord@84.90.39.212] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === sfllaw [i=sfllaw@debian/developer/coleSLAW] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === romey [n=stever@wsip-68-15-125-140.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === romey [n=stever@wsip-68-15-125-140.ok.ok.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === Linuturk_ [n=Linuturk@12.11.93.98] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === Linuturk_ [n=Linuturk@12.11.93.98] has left #ubuntu-laptop ["Leaving"] [05:27] crimsun: have you tried using the line out jack on a docking station with your Thinkpad? I tried, but sound still comes out of the laptop speakers. [05:28] I don't have a dock. [05:28] Ah, okay. [05:28] I hope it's not jack sense coming back to bite me in the arse. [05:28] dunno [05:29] was wondering about jack sense, though [05:29] if it works between hp/speakers, then it's unlikely to be jack sense [05:29] make sure your thinkpad is running the latest bios for that model [05:30] I used to have similar problems on suspend until I updated to a newer bios [05:30] It should be the latest. I'll see what more I can find out. [05:33] what audio chipset does the thinkpad use? [05:34] I don't recall. I left it at work, so I can't verify. [05:35] what model thinkpad is it? [05:36] well, ive got a toshiba, i was wondering if he had Intel HDA (and if that was supposed to be fixed in HDA) [05:36] I've backported all the HDA fixes that exist in addition to a dozen that are in upstream's queue [05:36] crimsun: It's a T43p [05:37] 2668G7U, if I recall [05:37] same codec I have, then. [05:37] snd_intel8x0 driver [05:37] cool [05:37] ad1981b codec === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-laptop [05:38] what package would a jack sense bug fall under, usually? [05:38] linux-source-2.6.1x [05:38] there aren't many jack sense bugs remaining [05:39] the ones that are still fluttering about are doing so because there are more serious pin-out issues [05:39] hmm =( [05:39] some are resolved by bios updates [05:39] If not jack sense, what might be my problem? [05:39] bios aside, since I am fairly certain it's the latest [05:39] tritium: dock interaction [05:40] i notice that my tecra m7 has some wierd volume state persistance, where setting the volume to mute in windows will mute the sound in linux [05:40] right, some machines do that [05:41] that seems wierd to me, that the hardware preserves state like that across boots [05:41] across warm boots? That's not at all surprising. [05:42] define warm [05:42] no powerdown. [05:42] no [05:42] i'll shut it down [05:42] turn it on after being off all night [05:42] problem persists [05:42] i might investigate if pulling the battery solves it [05:42] that's not a problem until you've determined that it's not supposed to act that way. [05:43] i didnt say it was a problem, just that its wierd [05:43] oh [05:43] i guess the problem would be that you cant turn the sound on at all in that state in linux, to my knowledge [05:45] have you verified the behavior with alsa-driver-1.0.13? [05:45] is that feisty? [05:46] no, it's upstream or Debian [05:46] good night, crimsun & jldugger [05:46] ah. it hasnt bothered me to the point where id build my own drivers yet. [05:46] all the patches were available prior to Edgy shipping, but understandably Edgy shipped without a fair number of necessary HDA patches [05:47] 'night tritium [05:49] amusing unrelated note: installing network-manager cut like 5 seconds off of bootchart [05:49] probably because it put those 5 seconds into my session [05:54] is there a smart way to go about building and installing alsa-driver-1.0.13? [05:55] yes. apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential && wget ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.13.tar.bz2 && tar xf alsa-driver-1.0.13.tar.bz2 && cd alsa-driver-1.0.13 && ./configure --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-debug=full --with-cards=hda-intel --with-kernel=/lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build && make && sudo make install-modules && sudo depmod -e && [05:56] sudo kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*|sort -r) && sudo modprobe -r $(lsmod |grep ^snd |awk '{print $1}' |sort -r) && sudo modprobe snd-hda-intel [05:59] damn [05:59] was expecting to get a web page or something [05:59] thats much more useful [05:59] I've only typed that a dozen times today. [05:59] heh [06:00] at least in my terminal, cntl-r will do a search through history ;) [06:00] [esc] / here (zsh-beta) [06:08] hmm. i think that part to kill everything touching audio files might be zsh or something [06:10] it's probably the module list order [06:10] snd_page_alloc is sometimes loaded prior to snd [06:10] i think its kill [06:11] if it gives you a "usage.." message, then it's kill [06:11] because i get the usage dialog [06:11] yea [06:11] (and that syntax is valid sh) [06:12] perhaps it failed the first time because of load order, then when i ran it again, it couldnt find any programs to kill [06:14] i dont think it needed the reverse sort [06:15] the only sort -r that's necessary is the lsmod one [06:15] the one following lsof is optional but shouldn't throw an error === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-laptop [06:16] well, seems to have loaded some stuff, and gnome popped up [06:19] yea, for some reason, that module remove line only works without error unsorted [06:19] oh, i guess i should note that i am jldugger === pwnguin is now known as jldugger-tablet [06:30] no change in behaviors =/ === jsgotangco [n=jsg123@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === robitaille [n=daniel@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === re-align [n=re-align@ip68-105-125-114.sd.sd.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === freeflying [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === merlin-linux [n=quail@unaffiliated/quaillinux/x-000001] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === sfllaw [i=sfllaw@debian/developer/coleSLAW] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === merlin-linux [n=quail@unaffiliated/quaillinux/x-000001] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === merlin-linux [n=quail@unaffiliated/quaillinux/x-000001] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === sfllaw [i=sfllaw@debian/developer/coleSLAW] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === Lure [n=lure@71.16.75.178] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === sfllaw [i=sfllaw@debian/developer/coleSLAW] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === Linuturk [n=Linuturk@12.11.93.98] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === Linuturk [n=Linuturk@12.11.93.98] has left #ubuntu-laptop ["Leaving"] === kuyky [n=Lord@84.90.39.212] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === Manny [n=chris@p5496AE50.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === Manny [n=chris@p5496AE50.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === jldugger [n=jldugger@adsl-75-15-73-186.dsl.tpkaks.sbcglobal.net] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === mamzers555 [n=user@88.134.110.144] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === kuyky_out [n=Lord@84.90.39.212] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === Linuturk [n=Linuturk@fl-207-30-7-72.sta.embarqhsd.net] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === Linuturk [n=Linuturk@fl-207-30-7-72.sta.embarqhsd.net] has left #ubuntu-laptop ["Leaving"] === freeflying [n=freeflyi@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === Linuturk [n=Linuturk@12.11.93.98] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === Linuturk [n=Linuturk@12.11.93.98] has left #ubuntu-laptop ["Leaving"] === Lure [n=lure@71.16.75.178] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === lakin [n=lakin@S01060013101832ce.cg.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === DrSpin [n=cole@ip70-162-5-115.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-laptop [10:13] I can declare 100% OOB compatability with my GQ-ZX5360 (Fry's House Brand) [10:14] ACPI Issues that were present in Dapper don't exist in Edgy (Have to start the computer on A/C in order be able to unplug it without it suspending [10:14] WPA doesn't work but I don't think this card supports [10:14] it [10:15] I will complain that everytime I switch wireless networks I have to run /etc/init.d/networking restart in order for DNS to update [10:17] Have noticed this as well if I have to swtich to ETH for whatever reason === DrSpin [n=cole@ip70-162-5-115.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #ubuntu-laptop [] === kuyky [n=Lord@84.90.39.212] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === Linuturk [n=Linuturk@12.11.93.98] has joined #ubuntu-laptop === Linuturk [n=Linuturk@12.11.93.98] has left #ubuntu-laptop ["Leaving"]