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| Tonio_ | Riddell: http://paste.tonio.homelinux.org/35 | 12:32 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: that's the patch | 12:32 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: sorry I left the computer | 12:32 |
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| Riddell | Tonio_: yes, and it's too big to go into -updates | 12:36 |
| Riddell | at least remove the translation and Makefile.in changes | 12:37 |
| Riddell | but preferably test the changes to each file and see which one is the culprit | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | morning all | 12:38 |
| Riddell | g'day sport | 12:38 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: too late for this now, I'll do that in the US | 12:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: but I've prepared feisty packages | 12:40 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: any news from mornfall ? he doesn't come here anymore | 12:42 |
| Kryczek | Tonio_: he's on #kde-devel | 12:42 |
| Kryczek | i mean, these days :) | 12:43 |
| Tonio_ | Kryczek: yes I know, but he used to be here too for more than a year | 12:43 |
| Riddell | he wants to get round to adept stuff but hasn't the motivation yet | 12:43 |
| Kryczek | Tonio_: invite him back | 12:43 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: okay | 12:43 |
| Riddell | mind he also has uni and a job | 12:44 |
| Hobbsee | which really does get in the way of things, yes | 12:44 |
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| Tonio_ | Riddell: ho I know that was not a criticize, just wanted to get infos, that'll all | 12:59 |
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| nixternal | imbrandon: you around at all? | 01:37 |
| imbrandon | barely | 01:37 |
| nixternal | heh | 01:37 |
| imbrandon | wasup? | 01:37 |
| nixternal | quicky | 01:38 |
| nixternal | whats the status of you pushing koffice? you still pushing for it? | 01:38 |
| imbrandon | yes | 01:38 |
| imbrandon | its a topic for mtv | 01:38 |
| imbrandon | why? | 01:38 |
| nixternal | ok..just so you know..im getting my hands on OASIS standard testing templates | 01:38 |
| imbrandon | great email me the info | 01:38 |
| imbrandon | if you would | 01:38 |
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| imbrandon | i'll check it on the plane or in mtv | 01:39 |
| nixternal | we already know, that koffice needs a lot of work yet to pass the tests i guess..and they are working on it ;) | 01:39 |
| nixternal | i think the big issues are with presentation based software right now | 01:39 |
| imbrandon | thats fine, the major thing does itr work well enough for day to day use | 01:39 |
| nixternal | kword is keeping up test wise, but custom stuff isn't working just great yet..and the issues with ms office garbage | 01:40 |
| nixternal | it works great for day to day use, but don't do any special formatting and send it to a person using ms office | 01:40 |
| nixternal | back and forth between koffice and OOo is fine... | 01:40 |
| nixternal | i have been trying to use it more and more each day | 01:40 |
| nixternal | but by the time feisty comes out, im guessing they will have a much better grasp on everything | 01:41 |
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| imbrandon | yup yup, ok i'm headed out, cyall in mtv | 01:41 |
| nixternal | ;syrt | 01:41 |
| nixternal | later rather | 01:41 |
| nixternal | lol | 01:41 |
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| crimsun | jeroenvrp: no, sorry. | 02:57 |
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| nixternal | hrmm..amarok no play ogg for me ;( | 04:12 |
| Mez | nixternal, did you just install the codecs to make it play Mp3? | 04:14 |
| nixternal | ya | 04:14 |
| nixternal | it won't play an ogg stream | 04:14 |
| Mez | nixternal, it did that to me too... and after trying to play them a few (around 20-30) times, it just worked (a couple of reboots later_ | 04:14 |
| nixternal | nm..it isn't an ogg issue..it is a 'the linux link tech show' | 04:14 |
| nixternal | im willing to bet feedburner is providing some issue | 04:15 |
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| nixternal | the postinst and prerm scripts aren't all that great are they ;) | 05:31 |
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| nixternal | the app AcetoneISO uses the default Edgy wallpaper, interestng | 08:51 |
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| fdoving | Riddell: do you manage kde4 debian/ directories in bzr or some vcs somewhere? | 11:15 |
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| fdoving | anyone else had problems with pycentral? I can't remove packages from it. "AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'remove_byte_code'" even google isn't usefull for this. | 12:14 |
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| Hobbsee | for something like https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/meta-kde/+bug/70216 is that an invalid bug? if its' a config file problem... | 01:03 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 70216 in meta-kde "Multimedia keys not working on old profile" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 01:03 |
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| danimo | Riddell: ping? | 02:06 |
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| Hobbsee | work, even | 02:28 |
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| Mez | Hobbsee, how does it "not work" | 02:33 |
| Hobbsee | Mez: see -motu | 02:33 |
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| Mez | what package has qt3to4 in ? | 06:41 |
| abattoir | Mez: libqt4-dev | 06:51 |
| Mez | abattoir, found it ;) now I need to downgrade mesa ;) | 06:52 |
| abattoir | Mez: oh, only saw your message now :) | 06:53 |
| Mez | tis ok ;) | 06:53 |
| Mez | yt anyways | 06:53 |
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| Mez | party in #katapult - new release being made as we speak | 07:47 |
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| Mez | claydoh, hello | 07:54 |
| claydoh | hi Mez | 07:55 |
| === ..[topic/#kubuntu-devel:Mez] : Welcome to #kubuntu-devel | Kubuntu Edgy rocks! | https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+specs | Katapult 0.3.1.4 parteh in #katapult | ||
| -Mez:#kubuntu-devel- Katapult parteh for the upcoming (in about 20 mins) release of Katapult 0.3.1.4 in #katapult - come join | 07:57 | |
| claydoh | bbiab | 07:57 |
| fdoving | hmm.. spam :] | 07:58 |
| Mez | ;) | 07:59 |
| fdoving | can it execute commands now? | 07:59 |
| Mez | fdoving, no - that'll be in 0.4 | 08:00 |
| fdoving | ok. | 08:01 |
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| Hawkwind | Ughhhhhhh @ the wallop messages to the entire channel. How annoying | 08:19 |
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| fdoving | toma: do you plan to add next/previous message shortcut keys to mailody? Preferably configurable with configure shortcuts. | 09:37 |
| fdoving | i know i can use right and left but i'm used to + and -. | 09:38 |
| fdoving | go to next unread, is also a nice feature. | 09:40 |
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| toma | fdoving: i'll make them configurable | 09:46 |
| toma | next unread is also high on my list | 09:46 |
| fdoving | toma: great. thank you :) | 09:46 |
| toma | fdoving: can you check something for me? | 09:47 |
| fdoving | toma: sure. | 09:47 |
| toma | fdoving: can you close, mailody, start it and click on a header | 09:47 |
| toma | does that initiate a drag immediatly? | 09:47 |
| toma | seems like the first single click on the first header you click after the start initates a drag for me | 09:48 |
| fdoving | hmm.. | 09:48 |
| fdoving | I have to expand my inbox in the mailbox tree to get any header to click on. | 09:49 |
| toma | ah, and if you expand that and click on a folder,and on a header? | 09:51 |
| fdoving | Can I somehow tell it to start in my inbox of choice? | 09:51 |
| toma | not yet | 09:51 |
| fdoving | yes. that's what I have to do. And when I do that, I don't experience the drag. | 09:51 |
| toma | ok | 09:51 |
| toma | does it crash as often as it does for me? | 09:52 |
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| fdoving | It has issues with huge imap folders. | 09:53 |
| toma | i | 09:54 |
| toma | know ;-) | 09:54 |
| fdoving | And I really would love to see folder/mailbox subscription. | 09:56 |
| fdoving | as i have alot of old trash laying around in their folders. :) | 09:56 |
| toma | would a simple 'hide function' do for you? | 09:59 |
| toma | i'll have a look anyhow | 10:00 |
| toma | thanks for the feedback | 10:00 |
| toma | bbl | 10:00 |
| fdoving | hide would do it for me, it's basically what it's about. (i think). | 10:04 |
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| fdoving | toma: something else i use quite often. is right-click on a folder -> 'mark all messages as read'. That would be usefull to me. | 10:20 |
| toma | yes | 10:20 |
| toma | i want that as well | 10:20 |
| fdoving | I like the per-mailbox new mail notification. | 10:21 |
| fdoving | More usefull than 'You have 123412342134 new mails' | 10:22 |
| toma | fdoving: good that you like it, i'm still figuring out if this is the best way | 10:22 |
| toma | buti think i'll keep it this way for now | 10:23 |
| toma | i'm a bit reluctant to make a systray icon | 10:23 |
| fdoving | If you somehow can make it say in a userfriendly way that you have 1 new mail in folder A, and 2 new mails in folder B, that would be very very, usefull. | 10:24 |
| fdoving | like, in the same popup. | 10:24 |
| toma | you mean the diff between the last popup? | 10:24 |
| fdoving | hmm.. no. | 10:24 |
| fdoving | more like 'You have 1 new mail in kubuntu-devel and 2 in kubuntu-bugs' | 10:25 |
| fdoving | for example. | 10:25 |
| toma | ah | 10:25 |
| toma | more natural language | 10:25 |
| fdoving | Not neccessarily. | 10:25 |
| fdoving | I just want to know where the new mail is. | 10:26 |
| toma | it says so | 10:26 |
| toma | it should read 'You now have 1 new message in core-devel' | 10:27 |
| toma | or something like that | 10:27 |
| fdoving | it does. | 10:27 |
| fdoving | let's say we check for new mail every X minutes. Then a popup telling me that I have 1 new mail in mailbox1 and 2 new mails in mailbox2' would be usefull. | 10:28 |
| fdoving | instead of one popup per mailbox. | 10:28 |
| toma | ah | 10:28 |
| toma | it should do that | 10:28 |
| toma | the popup is there for 5 seconds | 10:29 |
| toma | if in that time another mailbox is checked and new messages are found | 10:29 |
| toma | it will add another line to the popup | 10:29 |
| fdoving | Ah.. great :) | 10:29 |
| toma | keep a couple of new messages in a couple of boxes and restart mailody | 10:30 |
| toma | you can see it then | 10:30 |
| fdoving | yes. it's exactly what i want :) | 10:31 |
| fdoving | next, is a ignore-list. | 10:31 |
| toma | ignore list? | 10:31 |
| fdoving | list of mailboxes not to send notifications for. | 10:31 |
| toma | turn off the check mail function ;-) | 10:32 |
| toma | for that box | 10:32 |
| fdoving | could probably be combined with the 'hide/subscribe' feature. | 10:32 |
| toma | if you dont check it, no popup will appear | 10:32 |
| toma | (unless you explicitly open the folder) | 10:32 |
| fdoving | ah.. it's a checkbox. | 10:32 |
| fdoving | nice, then it's perfect :) | 10:32 |
| toma | YYYEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH | 10:33 |
| fdoving | :) | 10:33 |
| toma | the checkbox is a bit not obvious | 10:33 |
| toma | but i've not had a good idea how to fix that | 10:33 |
| toma | same for delete/undelete | 10:33 |
| fdoving | is it possible to make a progressbar for fetching mail/headers? | 10:34 |
| fdoving | syncing folders etc. | 10:35 |
| toma | yes, but i first want to finalise the way it works now | 10:35 |
| fdoving | add it to the wishlist :) | 10:35 |
| toma | i'm thinking of a rewrite of the communication betwen imap and the interface | 10:35 |
| toma | because now a resync will sometimes get you double entries | 10:36 |
| toma | i want to fix that | 10:36 |
| toma | its on my todo list | 10:36 |
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| toma | same for the slow deletion of multiple messages | 10:37 |
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| toma | select all | 10:37 |
| toma | etc | 10:37 |
| toma | zoom in for html view | 10:37 |
| fdoving | Hiding mailboxes, and work with huge mailboxes are the two features i'm missing the most. | 10:37 |
| toma | what are your problems with lasrge boxes? | 10:38 |
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| fdoving | mailody just crashes using 95+% cpu, i've left it working for hours on mailboxes with 12000-13000 mails. | 10:39 |
| fdoving | not getting anywhere. | 10:39 |
| fdoving | <1000 works nicely. | 10:41 |
| toma | crashing while not doing anything or when you click on an header? | 10:41 |
| toma | message | 10:41 |
| fdoving | the headers doesn't appear. | 10:41 |
| toma | exactly | 10:41 |
| fdoving | crashing while fetching headers or something. | 10:41 |
| toma | thats what i'm working on now | 10:41 |
| toma | it also happens when switching between messages fast on small folders | 10:42 |
| allee | Hi toma | 10:43 |
| toma | hi allee | 10:43 |
| allee | is 'check new mail' recursive? I've checked my INBOX an now I get infos about new mail in spam (sub)folder ;) | 10:44 |
| fdoving | bbl. kid going to sleep. | 10:44 |
| allee | fdoving: good luck! | 10:44 |
| toma | allee: no, it should not be | 10:45 |
| toma | can you check if the checkbox is on for that folder? | 10:45 |
| allee | toma: no they are not selected | 10:46 |
| allee | toma: I clicked on one of my spam folders (now folderlist update seem to happen in background: aka now new mail# in (xx) right to folder name. When (xx) is added I also get a passive popup that informs me about the new mails | 10:47 |
| allee | s/now new/no new/ | 10:48 |
| toma | can you remove the '//' of line ~1280 '//kdDebug() << "Checkmail for: " << mb << endl' of qmawidget.cpp | 10:48 |
| toma | and see what the output is | 10:49 |
| toma | I'm not sure about the passive popup when you open a folder | 10:49 |
| toma | it's kind of hard to remove it | 10:49 |
| allee | toma: maybe but it makes not sense IMHO. When I select a folder I see that there are new messages, no need to get a reminder ;) | 10:50 |
| toma | but | 10:51 |
| toma | when you have selected a folder and go and do something else in an other app | 10:51 |
| toma | do you want to get notified? | 10:51 |
| toma | for new mail in that folder | 10:51 |
| allee | mhmm, I never missed it lemme think about about it | 10:52 |
| toma | join the club ;-) | 10:52 |
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| yacoob | Greetings. Is there a way to fiddle with already installed package fields? | 10:59 |
| allee | yacoob: you are asking for trouble | 11:00 |
| yacoob | allee, possibly. For knowledge first, then it may bring me troubles :) | 11:00 |
| fdoving | yacoob: yes, /var/lib/dpkg/status | 11:00 |
| yacoob | situation is: I grabbed a rebuild deb from web to make Picard instal cleanly. Same version number as in kubuntu, so update is pending. I put it on hold, but it doesn't make adept's icon go away :) | 11:01 |
| fdoving | as allee said, it's asking for trouble. | 11:01 |
| fdoving | bumping the version in the file, should be ok. | 11:02 |
| yacoob | and that's exactly what I want to do, if I'd new about adept behaviour, I'd bump it before dpkg -i | 11:02 |
| allee | toma: mhm does one need --enable-debug=full to get kdebug to write stuff out? | 11:02 |
| allee | --enable-debug is on but I got 3 popups and no output on konsole | 11:03 |
| yacoob | voila, done. Thanks :) | 11:03 |
| toma | allee: hmmm enable-debug should do iirc, but i only use full | 11:03 |
| fdoving | allee: thanks for the good luck. so far so good. :) | 11:03 |
| allee | :) I know it can be a fight :) | 11:03 |
| yacoob | speaking of which, does reportbug work in [k] ubuntu too, or there's some other tool? | 11:03 |
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| ryanakca | would it be possible to somehow have ctrl-alt-num(+)/num(-) enabled in feisty? *eyes the +specs in the topic* | 11:04 |
| allee | ryanakca: as long as these shortcuts don't use randr, they make no sense IMHO | 11:06 |
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| dudanogueira | hello there! im recording the klettres sounds for pt-br, and would like to test them. So i want to know where the files are, for making a similar structure and to test my recordings. can anyone help me with this task? | 11:07 |
| ryanakca | allee: xrandr makes my screen go funny... that's why I'm interested in ctrl-alt-num(+)/num(-)... it used to be enabled.. and it would be usefull in times like this where my Monitor & Display in system settings gets broken | 11:08 |
| ryanakca | dudanogueira: no clue... you'd probably be better off asking in #kde-devel | 11:09 |
| dudanogueira | ryanakca, is there a way for knowing what files klettres coping and for where? | 11:10 |
| dudanogueira | like, aptitude showfiles klettres :P | 11:10 |
| dudanogueira | like: /usr/share/klettres... | 11:11 |
| ryanakca | oh... download the .deb, and then use mc to view them :) | 11:11 |
| fdoving | ryanakca: you can map them to execute 'xrandr -s something'.. | 11:11 |
| fdoving | for the keys.. that is. | 11:11 |
| ryanakca | fdoving: in xorg.conf? It was set in there iirc | 11:11 |
| ryanakca | ctrl-alt-+ went to the next highest resolution and looped, and ctrl-alt-(-) went in the other directin | 11:12 |
| ryanakca | + = num+, (-) = num- | 11:12 |
| fdoving | ryanakca: that doesn't use randr,afaik. | 11:12 |
| ryanakca | it doesn't | 11:13 |
| fdoving | that's the point. using randr is better. | 11:13 |
| ryanakca | that's why I'm interested in it.. randr messes up my screen (I end up with green and black vertical stripes, ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't do anything, can't switch to vt, pull the plug type thing) | 11:14 |
| fdoving | did you set DontZap in xorg.conf ? | 11:14 |
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| allee | fdoving: but I've never seen randr working with external monitor on laptops (that when _I_ could make use of it) :) | 11:14 |
| allee | s/:)/:(/ | 11:14 |
| ryanakca | I often need to change the resolution after playing bzflag, because bzflag crashes and doesn't put the resolution back... | 11:14 |
| fdoving | allee: I use it now. | 11:14 |
| ryanakca | fdoving: no... | 11:14 |
| toma | allee: can the port settings be a hidden setting? | 11:15 |
| allee | toma: no problem for me. | 11:15 |
| toma | like you can override it like setting the smtpserver as 'smtp.provider.de:33' | 11:15 |
| allee | toma: oh, but then it would be shown in the dialog (more never-be-documented setting that hidden) | 11:16 |
| toma | tooltip can hold the construction | 11:16 |
| fdoving | allee: i can change from 1024x768-clone mode, to 1024x768+1024x768, or 1024x768+1280x1024 as i use most of the time my external monitor is connected. only problem can be some DPI settings when I change from 1024+1280 back to only the laptop screen at 1024. | 11:17 |
| toma | i dont want to clutter the settings with settings that are weird | 11:17 |
| allee | toma: but that's fine. I've thought myself already about parsing smtp server setting for :[0-9] +$ | 11:17 |
| fdoving | toma: does the mail in 'all' include everything, or just the mailboxes you select to checkmail in? | 11:19 |
| toma | should do all, but i'm suspecting a bug somewhere | 11:20 |
| fdoving | the hide/subscribe feature would need to exclude those folders from all too, atleast. | 11:20 |
| allee | fdoving: my laptop has 1400x1050 and some beamers don't like this. Maybe I should try edgy if it works now to switch to 1024x768 | 11:20 |
| toma | the counts are off | 11:20 |
| ryanakca | fdoving: should I have? | 11:21 |
| fdoving | allee: what driver do you use? ati? | 11:21 |
| allee | fdoving: radeon | 11:21 |
| fdoving | allee: non-fglrx-radeon? | 11:21 |
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| allee | fdoving: I'm no game freak. So I was always happy with opensource driver | 11:21 |
| fdoving | me too. | 11:21 |
| fdoving | that's a good thing for this. | 11:21 |
| fdoving | I have a MergeFB setup that works. | 11:22 |
| fdoving | I can put my xorg.conf online if you want to look at it. | 11:22 |
| allee | fdoving: of course. that would be nice! | 11:22 |
| fdoving | allee: http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/xorg.conf | 11:24 |
| yacoob | allright... can anyone explain me this behaviour of konsole? | 11:25 |
| yacoob | less somefile, press q. The screen gets cleared and I see the prompt. Back with my xterm, after quitting less I had current view of file still on the screen above. | 11:26 |
| allee | fdoving: thx | 11:26 |
| yacoob | asked in #kde, and folks' experiences are varied, so it's either an option, or a compile-time flag | 11:26 |
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| allee | yacoob: when I use less and 'q' it, I see the screen just like before I started less | 11:31 |
| allee | yacoob: diff is more in TERM, pty settings (I more or less sure ;) | 11:32 |
| yacoob | allee, exactly the behaviour here. | 11:32 |
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| yacoob | but I vaguely remember I played with xterm resources back then to get such state... | 11:32 |
| allee | yacoob: I tried xterm and it's same as in konsole (and I never played with xterm resources) | 11:33 |
| allee | well, not since I use KDE :) | 11:33 |
| fdoving | yacoob: less -X somefile.txt | 11:35 |
| fdoving | make an alias. | 11:35 |
| ryanakca | packaging question: do all games in main, universe or multiverse have to be installed to /usr/games ? and would it be a bug if they aren't? | 11:36 |
| fdoving | toma: i'm officialy a mailody fan. i enabled 'checkmail' on my huge folders, and it somehow just fixed itself. doesn't crash, and I have the headers :) | 11:37 |
| toma | fdoving: hehe ;-) cool | 11:37 |
| === toma is happy | ||
| === fdoving replaces the kmail shortcut | ||
| fdoving | toma: one more thing.. multiple identities. | 11:38 |
| toma | fdoving: on the list ;-) | 11:39 |
| toma | but not so entensive as kmail | 11:39 |
| fdoving | and maybe, default reply from each folder. (if it's easy). | 11:40 |
| toma | i just need to send out with a different email address | 11:40 |
| toma | default reply? | 11:40 |
| fdoving | yes, for example in mailbox 'work' i would like to reply with my 'email@work.com' | 11:40 |
| toma | ah, ok, nice idea | 11:41 |
| fdoving | and for all ubuntu mailinglists i would like to reply with the ubuntu.com address. etc. | 11:41 |
| allee | toma: maybe share identities with kmail? would be nice. Saves lot of (re)typing | 11:42 |
| fdoving | share/import once. | 11:43 |
| toma | allee: well there is a central KDE class for it | 11:43 |
| toma | allee: as fasr as i saw kmail did not use that | 11:43 |
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| toma | allee: so i'm not sure what to do | 11:43 |
| allee | toma: for one or for several identities? | 11:43 |
| yacoob | fdoving, ha, thanks! | 11:43 |
| toma | allee: several | 11:43 |
| yacoob | (but surely, there was something in the terminal settings... :) | 11:43 |
| allee | toma: use the class! And bug kmail to use it for KDE4!!!! | 11:44 |
| toma | allee: yep, i hear you are good at buggin people ;-) | 11:44 |
| allee | toma: I always failed in kmails case ;) | 11:44 |
| toma | me too | 11:45 |
| allee | toma: too many people pester the devels ;) | 11:45 |
| toma | allee: kmime has switched to lgpl, removed all references to knode, etc | 11:45 |
| toma | allee: do i need to copy that? | 11:45 |
| allee | toma: what counts is the kmime code ( (c) and license in mailody. | 11:46 |
| allee | toma: but because mailody is GPL is makes no diff it kmine is GPL or LGPL | 11:47 |
| allee | s/it/if/ | 11:47 |
| toma | allee: exactly what i thought, i'll leave it as it is now | 11:47 |
| allee | BUT :) it all kmime files use now a consistent license it makes life of pkgers easier and save some space in debian/copyright | 11:48 |
| fdoving | Riddell: kde4 pacakges buildt for ppc at: http://ubuntu.lnix.net/ppc/edgy/kde-3.80.2-ppc/ - I did not include the origs as my upload is slow, and they are already present at kubuntu.org | 11:51 |
| fdoving | .. and i'm to lazy to wget them on the server. | 11:52 |
| toma | allee: its your call, it is done for kde4 already, so its pretty easy to port back to mailody | 11:53 |
| allee | toma: #$%! rebuild svn deb pkg with debug=full and still nothing on konsole when I get the passive popup about new mails :( | 11:56 |
| toma | check your .xsession-errors in your ~ | 11:57 |
| === allee wonders if You received NN new mail (MMM total) in <folder-name> | ||
| allee | toma: nothing (as expected) because I started mailody from console (not via k-menu) | 11:58 |
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| toma | allee: hmm, strange | 11:59 |
| allee | ^^ NN is the number of new mails arrived between the last/current new mail check | 11:59 |
| toma | allee: i dont like that, that means you have to read all popups | 12:00 |
| allee | toma: I check debuild's .build file. Maybe they do something nasty ;) | 12:00 |
| toma | or make the text longer | 12:00 |
| allee | toma: Isn't the popup displayed to read it ;) | 12:00 |
| toma | allee: well, you dont have to read it every time | 12:01 |
| fdoving | allee: do you have a script to easily make mailody svn debs? | 12:01 |
| toma | for example when you are fetching coffee | 12:01 |
| allee | toma: well, reason is I've lots of mail folder with pending new mail. So msg like digikam-devel has 157 msg is not very informative | 12:01 |
| allee | fdoving: no. But it's easy. use KDE svn checkout. In playground pim. checkout alioth pkg-kde/kde-extras/mailody/trunk/debian | 12:02 |
| toma | allee: hmm, i dont see an advantage when displaying the amount of new mails since last mail check | 12:02 |
| allee | then call debuild -i && sudo debi | 12:02 |
| fdoving | allee: ah, you have it on alioth. | 12:02 |
| allee | yeap. See wiki KubuntuKDEExtras | 12:03 |
| allee | toma: yeah, right. maybe better disable 'new mail check' for such folders | 12:05 |
| toma | allee: yes. If there is a wish with a lot of votes, i'll make it, i'm not really against it | 12:05 |
| toma | my workflow is probably not everyoines workflow | 12:06 |
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