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| Madpilot | So, those images I dumped into the marketing webspace w/o shoving thru bzr first - someone want to walk me thru using bzr to actually get them visible? | 05:04 |
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| Burgundavia | Madpilot: install | 05:25 |
| Burgundavia | bzr branch url | 05:25 |
| Burgundavia | edit | 05:26 |
| Burgundavia | bzr push url | 05:26 |
| Madpilot | how do I create a new directory? | 05:26 |
| Burgundavia | bzr branch should pull down the entire dir structure | 05:27 |
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| Madpilot | Burgundavia, sorry, still confused. Do I need to run bzr branch on the directory & files I scp'd in, the push to 'really' put them there? | 05:57 |
| Burgundavia | no | 05:57 |
| Burgundavia | pull the bzr branch down off whereever it is | 05:57 |
| Burgundavia | via 'bzr branch $URL' | 05:57 |
| Burgundavia | then add your files and push it back up | 05:57 |
| Madpilot | versioning systems make my tiny brain hurt... | 05:58 |
| Burgundavia | actually, bzr is really simple | 05:58 |
| Madpilot | ha | 05:59 |
| Madpilot | so I need to do "bzr branch http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/", add my new directory & files | 06:00 |
| Burgundavia | no | 06:01 |
| Madpilot | huh? what's the URL, then? | 06:02 |
| Burgundavia | https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-marketing/+branch/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu | 06:02 |
| Madpilot | Dog | 06:02 |
| Burgundavia | http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu | 06:02 |
| Burgundavia | that is your branch | 06:02 |
| Madpilot | oh lovely, man bzr is another useless man file, that tells you useful things only if you already know them | 06:03 |
| Burgundavia | bazaar-vcs.org | 06:04 |
| Madpilot | OK, just to make tonight's exercise faster, what would my full bzr branch command be? Am I obliged to grab the entire archive, just to add three files in one new subdirectory? | 06:06 |
| Burgundavia | just a sedc | 06:07 |
| Madpilot | http://bazaar-vcs.org/Documentation appears to lack a "Basic Intro to Bzr" doc; all the stuff under "Using Bazaar" seems to assume you are already an expert at this sort of thing, and is about esoterica of some sort... meh. | 06:13 |
| Burgundavia | bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu | 06:13 |
| Burgundavia | that is your command | 06:13 |
| Burgundavia | but it appears to be taking ages to do anything | 06:13 |
| Madpilot | Ah, they hide the *real* Using Bazaar info several layers deeper - http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.dev/tutorial.htm - anyway, the command is grinding away, and I've got a mass of stuff coming down the network | 06:16 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 06:17 |
| Burgundavia | bitching about the lack of feedback on #bzr right now | 06:17 |
| Burgundavia | jenda: your branch repo is a mess | 06:20 |
| Burgundavia | s/y//. | 06:21 |
| Madpilot | [============ ] fetch phase 0/4 <-- there is some feedback; the line of = similar to wget's | 06:24 |
| Madpilot | OK, so add my subdirectory & images, then "bzr push <<what??>>" | 06:26 |
| Burgundavia | same url, I think | 06:27 |
| Madpilot | k | 06:27 |
| Burgundavia | I am asking now | 06:28 |
| Burgundavia | sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu | 06:29 |
| Madpilot | so it's http coming down, but sftp to get it back up? Odd. | 06:31 |
| Burgundavia | well, you have to auth a push | 06:31 |
| Madpilot | of course | 06:32 |
| Burgundavia | it working? | 06:35 |
| Madpilot | No. I get "bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: /home/brian/Linux_Misc/UbMarketing Bzr/" | 06:35 |
| Burgundavia | hmm | 06:35 |
| Burgundavia | join #bzr and ask | 06:36 |
| nixternal | http://www.redhat.com | 08:09 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 08:09 |
| nixternal | i love their new banner | 08:09 |
| Madpilot | Oh, FFS. #bzr is dead, and bzr is still giving me stupid errors. | 08:12 |
| Madpilot | I've set the f'ing thing up three times now, and it barfs every time. | 08:12 |
| Burgundavia | and usually there are lots of Ubuntu devs to ask, but they are all travelling right now | 08:13 |
| Burgundavia | I love how consistent RH's marketing colours are | 08:14 |
| Burgundavia | their website kicks ours to the crub | 08:14 |
| Madpilot | OK, at least I've got it barfing differently now... | 08:16 |
| Madpilot | small paste | 08:16 |
| Madpilot | launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu | 08:16 |
| Madpilot | Permission denied (publickey). | 08:16 |
| Madpilot | bzr: ERROR: exceptions.EOFError: | 08:16 |
| Madpilot | at /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/paramiko/sftp.py line 150 | 08:16 |
| Madpilot | in _read_all | 08:16 |
| Burgundavia | cool | 08:17 |
| Madpilot | missed the first line, it should have been "bzr push sftp://bazaar." | 08:17 |
| Burgundavia | that looks like a permissions error | 08:17 |
| Burgundavia | ask in #launchpad | 08:17 |
| nixternal | i thought jenda was the only when allowed to uplaod to spreadubuntu? | 08:18 |
| nixternal | i get the same error, but all my other branches are fine | 08:18 |
| Burgundavia | hmm, then that is an issue | 08:18 |
| Burgundavia | we need to get a DIY branch that people can push to | 08:18 |
| nixternal | i will check again really quick | 08:18 |
| Burgundavia | we need bzr+svn | 08:19 |
| Burgundavia | because we need a single place for people to pull from | 08:19 |
| nixternal | ok, my check out is working..i will test a commit | 08:20 |
| nixternal | bzr co http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu/ | 08:21 |
| nixternal | downloading now | 08:21 |
| nixternal | bzr == way to slow | 08:22 |
| Burgundavia | yes, yes it is | 08:22 |
| Burgundavia | .12 apparently is much faster | 08:22 |
| nixternal | cool | 08:22 |
| Burgundavia | and .13 is coming soonish | 08:22 |
| Burgundavia | speed appears to be the current focus | 08:23 |
| nixternal | my lord...im still in fetch phase 1/4 | 08:23 |
| nixternal | there must be some crazy .svg's plugging the pipe | 08:23 |
| Madpilot | unless they're really gigantic, SVGs aren't usually that large; they're just text files, after all. | 08:24 |
| nixternal | see, i wouldn't know..i suck with inkscape | 08:24 |
| Madpilot | apparently I suck with bzr, so it evens out | 08:25 |
| nixternal | xml file actually..neat | 08:25 |
| Madpilot | yeah, SVG is a species of XML | 08:25 |
| Burgundavia | we were talking about bzr sucks at feedback | 08:26 |
| Burgundavia | the bzr branch is also really really badly laid out | 08:26 |
| nixternal | im still at fetch phase 1/4 | 08:26 |
| nixternal | something isn't right here | 08:26 |
| nixternal | i could have had the entire doc repo downloaded | 08:27 |
| Madpilot | I've done 'bzr branch' three times tonight, it does work eventually :| | 08:27 |
| Burgundavia | it is 89mb | 08:27 |
| nixternal | now im on Build Phase 0/2 | 08:27 |
| nixternal | ahh that is why | 08:27 |
| nixternal | done! | 08:27 |
| nixternal | arg | 08:27 |
| nixternal | i will have problems ;) | 08:27 |
| nixternal | im a moron..i used a machine w/o a ssh id | 08:28 |
| nixternal | Madpilot: your ssh key on that machine, is it the same one that you uploaded to launchpad? | 08:29 |
| Madpilot | nixternal, SSH key? I don't have an SSH key on LP, far as I know. GPG, but not SSH... | 08:29 |
| nixternal | lol..you have to have a SSH key on LP before you can use bazaar | 08:29 |
| nixternal | i keep forgetting about that myself | 08:30 |
| Madpilot | ah. the docs fail to mention this. | 08:30 |
| Burgundavia | need to generate that myself | 08:30 |
| Madpilot | nixternal, it's late here, I've got to get up early. I'm going to leave this mess, and sort it out tomorrow. | 08:31 |
| nixternal | hehe, but now you know what you need to do | 08:31 |
| Madpilot | broadly, yes. | 08:31 |
| nixternal | the only way i knew that, or learned that..was putting my blog on the planet | 08:32 |
| nixternal | the planet wiki page tells you about it | 08:32 |
| nixternal | and you need python-paramiko as well | 08:32 |
| Madpilot | another package, too? Cool. Are there no docs at all for this setup? | 08:32 |
| nixternal | actually, no there isn't | 08:32 |
| poningru | yech | 08:32 |
| poningru | such a mess | 08:32 |
| nixternal | wow | 08:32 |
| Madpilot | the LP page says "Insert the contents of ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub or ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub." My ~/.ssh has neither file... | 08:34 |
| Madpilot | only known_hosts | 08:34 |
| Burgundavia | you need ot generate an ssh key | 08:35 |
| Madpilot | More fun. Tomorrow, then - I really do need sleep. | 08:35 |
| Madpilot | Can we arrange to have someone who knows this stuff actually write down *all* the steps needed somewhere? Please? | 08:36 |
| Burgundavia | I will play with it and write up a doc | 08:37 |
| nixternal | i will add that to my to do list if you need me to | 08:37 |
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| poningru | err nm | 08:37 |
| nixternal | good, i will remove it now ;) | 08:37 |
| nixternal | nope, you said you will help | 08:37 |
| nixternal | ;) | 08:37 |
| poningru | actually have installfest tommorow | 08:37 |
| nixternal | that isn't an excuse | 08:37 |
| Madpilot | cool. G'night all... | 08:37 |
| poningru | nn | 08:37 |
| nixternal | g'nite Madpilot | 08:38 |
| poningru | will take tons of pics | 08:38 |
| nixternal | i ahve RMS tomorrow | 08:38 |
| poningru | you do? | 08:38 |
| nixternal | i won't | 08:38 |
| nixternal | ;) | 08:38 |
| nixternal | but i will take video | 08:38 |
| poningru | wait how does one posses rms? | 08:38 |
| nixternal | at least we are supposed to have video of it | 08:38 |
| poningru | oh is he giving a talk? | 08:38 |
| nixternal | Chicago GNU/LUG | 08:38 |
| nixternal | ya, a talk and then some Emacs and Lisp hacking I have been told | 08:39 |
| poningru | cool | 08:39 |
| nixternal | but i doubt that happens, as he is here on a layover | 08:39 |
| nixternal | he is staying in a $1000/night hotel in Lincoln Park tonight | 08:39 |
| poningru | hehe gl | 08:39 |
| nixternal | must be nice | 08:40 |
| poningru | I dont think he minds crashing at someones couch | 08:40 |
| nixternal | actually, that was the plan | 08:40 |
| nixternal | but the company he is here laid over with, is paying for his hotel during the layover | 08:40 |
| nixternal | we just chipped in $500 from IIT to get him to speak | 08:40 |
| nixternal | actually I didn't..but the college did | 08:41 |
| poningru | nice | 08:41 |
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| Burgundavia | http://ask.slashdot.org/askslashdot/06/11/04/0611256.shtml | 10:13 |
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