=== zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-65-67-112-77.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === theCore_ [n=alex@modemcable128.255-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === lophyte [n=dsulliva@ubuntu/member/lophyte] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:04] So, those images I dumped into the marketing webspace w/o shoving thru bzr first - someone want to walk me thru using bzr to actually get them visible? === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === milosevic [n=milo@189.171.4.52] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:25] Madpilot: install [05:25] bzr branch url [05:26] edit [05:26] bzr push url [05:26] how do I create a new directory? [05:27] bzr branch should pull down the entire dir structure === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:57] Burgundavia, sorry, still confused. Do I need to run bzr branch on the directory & files I scp'd in, the push to 'really' put them there? [05:57] no [05:57] pull the bzr branch down off whereever it is [05:57] via 'bzr branch $URL' [05:57] then add your files and push it back up [05:58] versioning systems make my tiny brain hurt... [05:58] actually, bzr is really simple [05:59] ha [06:00] so I need to do "bzr branch http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/", add my new directory & files [06:01] no [06:02] huh? what's the URL, then? [06:02] https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-marketing/+branch/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu [06:02] Dog [06:02] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu [06:02] that is your branch [06:03] oh lovely, man bzr is another useless man file, that tells you useful things only if you already know them [06:04] bazaar-vcs.org [06:06] OK, just to make tonight's exercise faster, what would my full bzr branch command be? Am I obliged to grab the entire archive, just to add three files in one new subdirectory? [06:07] just a sedc [06:13] http://bazaar-vcs.org/Documentation appears to lack a "Basic Intro to Bzr" doc; all the stuff under "Using Bazaar" seems to assume you are already an expert at this sort of thing, and is about esoterica of some sort... meh. [06:13] bzr branch http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu [06:13] that is your command [06:13] but it appears to be taking ages to do anything [06:16] Ah, they hide the *real* Using Bazaar info several layers deeper - http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/bzr.dev/tutorial.htm - anyway, the command is grinding away, and I've got a mass of stuff coming down the network [06:17] yep [06:17] bitching about the lack of feedback on #bzr right now [06:20] jenda: your branch repo is a mess [06:21] s/y//. [06:24] [============ ] fetch phase 0/4 <-- there is some feedback; the line of = similar to wget's [06:26] OK, so add my subdirectory & images, then "bzr push <>" [06:27] same url, I think [06:27] k [06:28] I am asking now [06:29] sftp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu [06:31] so it's http coming down, but sftp to get it back up? Odd. [06:31] well, you have to auth a push [06:32] of course [06:35] it working? [06:35] No. I get "bzr: ERROR: Not a branch: /home/brian/Linux_Misc/UbMarketing Bzr/" [06:35] hmm [06:36] join #bzr and ask [08:09] http://www.redhat.com [08:09] hahaha [08:09] i love their new banner [08:12] Oh, FFS. #bzr is dead, and bzr is still giving me stupid errors. [08:12] I've set the f'ing thing up three times now, and it barfs every time. [08:13] and usually there are lots of Ubuntu devs to ask, but they are all travelling right now [08:14] I love how consistent RH's marketing colours are [08:14] their website kicks ours to the crub [08:16] OK, at least I've got it barfing differently now... [08:16] small paste [08:16] launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu [08:16] Permission denied (publickey). [08:16] bzr: ERROR: exceptions.EOFError: [08:16] at /usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/paramiko/sftp.py line 150 [08:16] in _read_all [08:17] cool [08:17] missed the first line, it should have been "bzr push sftp://bazaar." [08:17] that looks like a permissions error [08:17] ask in #launchpad [08:18] i thought jenda was the only when allowed to uplaod to spreadubuntu? [08:18] i get the same error, but all my other branches are fine [08:18] hmm, then that is an issue [08:18] we need to get a DIY branch that people can push to [08:18] i will check again really quick [08:19] we need bzr+svn [08:19] because we need a single place for people to pull from [08:20] ok, my check out is working..i will test a commit [08:21] bzr co http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-marketing/spreadubuntu/spreadubuntu/ [08:21] downloading now [08:22] bzr == way to slow [08:22] yes, yes it is [08:22] .12 apparently is much faster [08:22] cool [08:22] and .13 is coming soonish [08:23] speed appears to be the current focus [08:23] my lord...im still in fetch phase 1/4 [08:23] there must be some crazy .svg's plugging the pipe [08:24] unless they're really gigantic, SVGs aren't usually that large; they're just text files, after all. [08:24] see, i wouldn't know..i suck with inkscape [08:25] apparently I suck with bzr, so it evens out [08:25] xml file actually..neat [08:25] yeah, SVG is a species of XML [08:26] we were talking about bzr sucks at feedback [08:26] the bzr branch is also really really badly laid out [08:26] im still at fetch phase 1/4 [08:26] something isn't right here [08:27] i could have had the entire doc repo downloaded [08:27] I've done 'bzr branch' three times tonight, it does work eventually :| [08:27] it is 89mb [08:27] now im on Build Phase 0/2 [08:27] ahh that is why [08:27] done! [08:27] arg [08:27] i will have problems ;) [08:28] im a moron..i used a machine w/o a ssh id [08:29] Madpilot: your ssh key on that machine, is it the same one that you uploaded to launchpad? [08:29] nixternal, SSH key? I don't have an SSH key on LP, far as I know. GPG, but not SSH... [08:29] lol..you have to have a SSH key on LP before you can use bazaar [08:30] i keep forgetting about that myself [08:30] ah. the docs fail to mention this. [08:30] need to generate that myself [08:31] nixternal, it's late here, I've got to get up early. I'm going to leave this mess, and sort it out tomorrow. [08:31] hehe, but now you know what you need to do [08:31] broadly, yes. [08:32] the only way i knew that, or learned that..was putting my blog on the planet [08:32] the planet wiki page tells you about it [08:32] and you need python-paramiko as well [08:32] another package, too? Cool. Are there no docs at all for this setup? [08:32] actually, no there isn't [08:32] yech [08:32] such a mess [08:32] wow [08:34] the LP page says "Insert the contents of ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub or ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub." My ~/.ssh has neither file... [08:34] only known_hosts [08:35] you need ot generate an ssh key [08:35] More fun. Tomorrow, then - I really do need sleep. [08:36] Can we arrange to have someone who knows this stuff actually write down *all* the steps needed somewhere? Please? [08:37] I will play with it and write up a doc [08:37] i will add that to my to do list if you need me to === poningru will help [08:37] err nm [08:37] good, i will remove it now ;) [08:37] nope, you said you will help [08:37] ;) [08:37] actually have installfest tommorow [08:37] that isn't an excuse [08:37] cool. G'night all... [08:37] nn [08:38] g'nite Madpilot [08:38] will take tons of pics [08:38] i ahve RMS tomorrow [08:38] you do? [08:38] i won't [08:38] ;) [08:38] but i will take video [08:38] wait how does one posses rms? [08:38] at least we are supposed to have video of it [08:38] oh is he giving a talk? 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