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ismael_Hello...12:11
ismael_I feel terribly stupid... I was just using Kopete and I hid the main menu... I can't find it anymore :(12:11
ismael_how do I get it back?12:12
blueyedismael_: ctrl-shift-F or sth similar12:12
linuxwizardhello has anyone installed patch for kopete for the ICQ issue for dapper12:13
ismael_blueyed: nope, it doesn't do anything12:13
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ismael_blueyed: what's "something" similar?12:13
jeff_hmmm, does adept package manager search for available downloads?  I do a fetch updates but nothing gets added to the list.  It only shows whats already installed.  Any ideas?12:13
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blueyedismael_: check other apps.. AFAIK it's a general KDE shortcut. I'm off now.. good luck.12:14
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binary2k2ismael_: try Ctrl-M12:14
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ismael_binary2k2: yes, I found it :)12:15
binary2k2:D12:15
ismael_binary2k2: it's terrible... It shouldn't be so well hidden12:15
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ismael_binary2k2: I looked in konqueror's menu...12:15
cntbhave skype_debian-1.3.0.53-1_i386.deb on Desktop12:16
cntbhow apt-get instals that ?12:16
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jeff_I was going to install firefox and synaptic, but it's not showing adept.12:16
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binary2k2ismael_: it's under the "Settings" menu "Hise Menubar  Ctrl-M"12:16
binary2k2*hide12:17
ismael_binary2k2: yes, but once hidden... how do you find it?12:17
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ismael_binary2k2: specially if you hid it by mistake...12:17
binary2k2ismael_: it should be the same on all KDE apps12:17
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ismael_binary2k2: what I'm saying is that it isn't userfriendly12:18
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ismael_cntb: just clicking it should install it... manual instalation is done by dpkg12:18
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binary2k2ismael_: nothing is, unless you know what the commands are. :)12:18
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ismael_binary2k2: nah, that's not true. I knew I had hidden the menubar... But there wasn't any command anywhere in the window to get it back. Only way to get it back was knowing ctrl-m12:19
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cntbk ismael12:20
cntbaptitude -i can do ?12:20
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ismael_binary2k2: I shouldn't have to know every command for if I ever misclick.. :(12:20
ismael_cntb: I don't know... try it :)12:20
binary2k2ismael_: true, I only knew it by looking in kopetes menu :P12:21
ismael_binary2k2: lol12:21
cntbhas two tar.gz control and data12:21
ismael_binary2k2: which I would had... only that I didn't have the damn thing :P12:21
jeff_synaptic is so much better than adept.  If only I could get to it.12:21
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binary2k2jeff_: sudo apt-get install synaptic12:22
ismael_cntb: what has two targz and data?12:22
cntbit is skype ---- .deb12:22
ismael_cntb: you mean that clicking it opened the file instead of installing? then right click and select install12:22
cntbok12:22
jeff_where is apt-get located?12:23
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binary2k2jeff_: open konsole and type it in to there12:23
jeff_oh, ok thanks12:23
cntbismael_: offers only archiver12:23
omicronhi. I accidently removed the pager applet in kde. anyone who knows how to get it back?12:23
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binary2k2jeff_: you'll type in your pass, then press y to install12:24
cntbwhere is the deb installer ?12:24
KeatonHow do I upgrade from 6.06 to 6.10? Do I just apt-get kubuntu-desktop or is there a better way to do it?12:24
jeff_ok, gonna try it now12:24
ismael_jeff_: I don't know why you need to know that... but: to know where a command is located use "which apt-get". That will give you a location. In general, you'll also have to do ls -l /path/to/apt-get12:24
omicron!upgrade12:24
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)12:24
binary2k2omicron: open Konsole and type "sudo apt-get install adept"12:24
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ismael_cntb: isn't there a submenu which says "install"?12:25
binary2k2ismael_: i think he was looking for it in the K-menu?12:25
cntbbtw is astronaute Mr. Shuttleworth ?12:25
ismael_cntb: I don't have any deb around here...12:25
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cntbubuntu can install rpm as well12:25
cntbbut now I stared with .deb12:26
omicronbinary2k2: i have adept.. i only need to get my pager applet back to the taskbar12:26
ismael_cntb: in theory it can... but I never used it... and it should be *much* easier to install a deb12:26
cntball ubuntu is built on it12:27
binary2k2omicron: try pressing "Alt-F2" and type in "adept_notifier" and click run12:28
jeff_I need some basic Linux instruction. Duuuuuhhhhh. I'm pretty good at installing linux distros and getting them to coexist with windows, but i'm not much on manual configuring or getting around in console. Doooooyyyyy.12:28
binary2k2cntb: ubuntu can't install rpm's directly, it needs to convert them to deb12:28
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jeff_Reading package lists... Done12:33
jeff_Building dependency tree... Done12:33
jeff_Package synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package.12:33
jeff_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or12:33
jeff_is only available from another source12:33
jeff_E: Package synaptic has no installation candidate12:33
jeff_jeff@jeff-desktop:~$12:33
jeff_Daaarrrrr, what does that mean?12:33
Tm_T!paste12:33
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)12:33
jeff_thanks ubotu12:33
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tarkossalut12:34
binary2k2jess_: can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/)12:34
binary2k2jeff_: can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list (http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/)12:34
binary2k2sorry i called you jess :P12:35
jeff_lol12:35
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jeff_Daaarrrr, I tried the pastey thing but I don't know where It goed too at.  What da heck. How does dat be workin?12:38
Hawkwindjeff_: Post the resulting URL12:38
jeff_I feels like I'm getting dumberer by the minute.12:39
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jeff_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30228/12:39
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jeff_oh, liken to that?12:40
Hawkwindjeff_: Yes.12:40
Hawkwindbinary2k2: ^^^^12:40
jeff_hehehe, I be seein hows it works now.12:40
binary2k2jeff_: yeah, but this time can you post your, /etc/apt/sources.list :P12:40
jeff_How do I get the /etc/apt/sources.list12:42
BluesKajyeah , there's nothing like a dose of linux probs to bring ya back to reality12:42
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binary2k2open it in kate12:42
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binary2k2jeff_: then copy and paste12:43
jeff_open what in where?12:43
binary2k2jeff_: ok ...12:43
binary2k2jeff_: go to:12:43
jeff_sorry, I'm too dumb.12:44
binary2k2jeff_: K-menu -> Utilities12:44
binary2k2jeff_: then click on Kate12:44
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jeff_k, im there12:44
binary2k2jeff_: File -> open12:44
binary2k2jeff_: and type: /etc/apt/sources.list12:45
binary2k2jeff_: and click "open"12:45
jeff_ok, got it12:45
LeeJunFanputting myself in the linux newbie shoes tonight, helping my 7 yr old install edgy right now :)12:45
binary2k2jeff_: copt and paste that to the website you used before12:46
LeeJunFanjust wait till I teach him how to install and build beryl from SVN :)12:46
ismael_LeeJunFan: LOL12:46
binary2k2:P12:46
ismael_My Katapult crashes :'(12:47
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jeff_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30229/12:47
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jeff_k, got it12:47
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binary2k2jeff_: ahh, so that's why you can't install anything12:48
donvitocan i boot kubuntu from floopy?12:48
RadiantFireer, you have no repositories12:48
RadiantFirethat'll do it12:48
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h3sp4wndonvito: I don't think it a supported method (someone made a set for breezy though(12:49
jeff_how do i get some supositories?12:49
donvitoi cant boot it from cd12:49
donvitoi need for dapper12:50
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binary2k2jeff_: close kate, then press "Alt-F2" and type in "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"12:50
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h3sp4wndonvito: Put the disk into another machine then - or do a network boot12:50
binary2k2jeff_: then replace it all with this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30230/12:51
ArafangionHa, found this quote:12:51
ArafangionDebugging a Direct3D application can be challenging.12:51
ArafangionMicrosoft's Direct3D Immediate Mode overview.12:51
h3sp4wndonvito: It is possible if you read and use the kernel etc from the netboot directory12:51
binary2k2jeff_: copy it from the "Make a correction" part or you'll get the line numbers12:51
der_steppenwolfi am upgrading my kubuntu distribution, but it seems the server archive.ubuntu.com is overloaded, isn't it?12:52
h3sp4wndonvito: There was a post on the forums about how a guy did it of breezy12:52
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georgebArafangion: just wondering, if you use pppoe how did you configure it ?12:52
jeff_ok12:52
Arafangiongeorgeb: I purchased a router with an ethernet port.12:52
binary2k2jeff_: or download it from http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30230/plain/12:52
donvitoh3sp4wn than there is no files to download themand put in flooppy than booting12:52
donvito;)12:52
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georgebArafangion: oh; I thought that you set the pppoe on the computer12:53
Arafangiongeorgeb: Those who make their own lives hard willingly do so.12:53
h3sp4wndonvito: If you want to do that you have to do it yourself (Its not a supported installation method but debian can do it so its not inherantly impossible with the text mode installer)12:53
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donvitoso will u help me about this?12:53
donvitoi cant boot kubuntu from cd12:54
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donvitomy machine says that i need to do update on my bios12:54
jeff_binary, so i just save the file when done?12:54
donvitobut i dont want to do that maybe i can fuck up the bios12:54
donvitoright?12:54
lessnickthe kde configuration panel used to have a drop down menu to choose which panel I was configuring. How do I configure extra panels now?12:54
binary2k2jeff_: yep, as long as you didn't past over the line numbers :P12:55
binary2k2jeff_: after that, in konsole, type "sudo apt-get update"12:55
binary2k2jeff_: then you should be able to install what you want12:55
jeff_k12:56
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jeff_E: Type 'to' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list12:57
jeff_that's what i got12:57
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binary2k2jeff_: then you didn't copt it right :P12:58
jeff_k, im gonna pull it back up in kate12:58
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binary2k2jeff_: make sure you open it the was you did before Alt-F2 ...12:59
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binary2k2jeff_: when you open kate, click File -> Open and type in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30230/plain/01:00
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binary2k2jeff_: then File -> Save As01:01
binary2k2jeff_: and save as "/etc/apt/sources.list"01:01
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jeff_ok, hold on01:02
damien94hello01:02
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HymnToLifebinary2k2, would have been simple to just wget && sudo mv it ;)01:02
HymnToLifesimpler*01:02
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binary2k2HymnToLife: is that simpler for a noob? maybe01:03
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HymnToLifecourse that is01:03
binary2k2HymnToLife: you'r probably right, shame I didn't think of it earlyer tho01:04
jeff_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30232/01:06
jeff_ok, thats what i got, hope thats better01:06
binary2k2jeff_: yep, that's what you wanted01:07
LeeJunFancrap, this should be fun to figure out. the machine is freezing after kde login on my kids computer. Doesn't make sense why it would cause such a hard lockup at that point after they system is booted.01:07
binary2k2jeff_: now you can install synaptic, or whatever you want :D01:07
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raytray25How could I disable the touchpad?01:07
HymnToLifein your BIOS ?01:08
jeff_oh cool, even adept is working now, thanks alot01:08
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binary2k2no problem :)01:08
jeff_what do you think happened, was there a problem with the install?01:08
jeff_i wouldn't think you would have to do that on every new installatioon01:08
fabio_how to install eclipse?01:08
HymnToLifenope, you just messed your sources.list somehow01:09
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jeff_hmm, can't imagine what i did01:09
binary2k2jeff_: when you install it tries to connect to the servers, and if it can't (eg you don't have internet) it comments them out01:09
RawSewagehow do you get Audio Preview working in Konqueror01:09
georgeb!eclipse01:09
jeff_oooohhhhhhh, i see now.01:09
ubotueclipse: Extensible Tool Platform and Java IDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 121 kB, installed size 412 kB01:09
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RawSewage!audio preview01:10
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about audio preview - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:10
binary2k2thats what the "Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:" was01:10
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jeff_i got an error at the end of the install.  Said it couldn't access security updates01:10
georgebfabio_: you have to setup the universe repo; and eclipse&plugins are there01:10
jeff_that's because this computer is on a secure wireless network01:10
fabio_ok georgeb, thanks01:11
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jeff_kubuntu, recongnized my wireless card though, first distro to do that01:11
binary2k2that's why then, I don't like that "feature" of the installer because it causes problems like that01:11
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jeff_yep,  these linux distros are definitely getting better though. glad to see it. Can't wait for the day when i can phase out windows entirely.01:12
binary2k2when you get more confident on linux then you will get frustrated with windows and delete it01:14
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binary2k2that's why I removed it, I grew to HATE it :P01:14
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jeff_the main reasons I keep windows are: 1. I can't seem to ever get my printer working.  2. There are some websites that I log into that will not accept anything other than IE. Even when you tell the browser to report as IE.01:15
jeff_Ticks me off.01:16
barkatmonHm.. Kubuntu 7.04?01:16
barkatmonhttp://doc.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/release-notes/C/01:16
binary2k2the printer thing I can relate to, as to the websites, complain to them01:16
ArafangionWhy are those release notes under 'C'?01:17
binary2k2'C' is the language code01:17
barkatmonare there an typo maby01:17
jeff_Some webmasters are like my wife.  Hung up on windows.01:17
Arafangionjeff_: That day is already here, except for the varous niche applications.01:17
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jeff_I started using open office before linux.  I can't get my wife to touch open office either.01:18
Arafangionjeff_: And recently Mozilla Firefox has surged in popularity, so the IE thing isn't /quite/ as bad as it used to be.01:18
Arafangionjeff_: Which version of MS Office does she use?01:18
gnomefreakmost IE sites will accept netscape browsers01:19
jeff_yes, i need to get my firefox installed and try the sites in question again.01:19
gnomefreakexcept microsoft sites01:19
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ArafangionSafari, the default mac browser, has also made the web much nicer. (Being based on khtml)01:19
georgebgnomefreak: ms accept non-IE browser just to show the clients how messed up other browsers are :)01:19
jeff_ms office 200301:20
Arafangionjeff_: I hear that will work under Crossover, though I have yet to get my copy working on linux (As I'm too poor to get a CX license)01:20
Linux_Galore_Arafangion: you dont need a license for CX01:20
binary2k2if it will work on Crossover, it may work with wine01:21
jeff_is crossover an emulator?01:21
Linux_Galore_jeff_: no its wine with some nice hacks01:21
jeff_oic01:21
Arafangionjeff_: It's an implementation of windows that uses Linux as a base, rather than the windows kernel.01:21
jeff_weird01:21
Linux_Galore_jeff_: get wine add a app installer ui and some hacks to make sure they work01:21
Arafangionbinary2k2: It's technically possible to get MS Office 2003 to work on winehq's Wine, but it's very, very difficult.01:22
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Arafangionbinary2k2: Prior versions of MS Office work well on winehq and easily, though.01:22
Linux_Galore_jeff_: very similar in concept as winetools01:22
jeff_does wind mimic windows registries?01:22
RawSewageI uninstalled a program, but it's still appearing as an empty item when I right-click a file in Konqueror.  How do I remove this from my Konqueror right-click menu?01:22
Arafangionjeff_: It provides it's own.01:22
Arafangionjeff_: Even has regedit :)01:22
=== binary2k2 spits on the windows registry
Arafangionjeff_: It sandboxes the windows app by neccessity, however it's as native as it can be.01:23
jeff_oh cool01:23
=== Dr_Willis installs spyware with wine.. to see what they copy where.
Dr_Willis:)01:23
HymnToLifeRawSewage, Settings > Configure Konqueror > File associations01:23
jeff_are windows apps slow under wine?01:23
Arafangionjeff_: Though, wine is /still/ incomplete, so it's pretty much touch and go.01:23
Dr_Willisjeff_:  some are faster. ;-)01:23
barkatmoni have an problem with wep in kubuntu 6.10 cant connect via wlan when wep enabled on the netgear router01:24
HymnToLifepersonnaly, I prefer VMWare when I need to use WIndows stuff in nux01:24
Arafangionjeff_: Wine Is Not an Emulator - it really does directly execute the applications natively.01:24
RawSewageHymnToLife, It's not in there01:24
jeff_man, i need to play with that. learn more about it01:24
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Dr_Willisvmware is darn handy to learn/use also.01:24
barkatmonwhen disable wep encryption is works fine..using wlan now01:24
RawSewageHymnToLife, wait, let me check a diff ext01:24
Dr_Willisi use vmware to test out live cd's01:24
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HymnToLifemaybe it differs a bit, I'm on KDE 3.5.5 atm01:24
ArafangionDr_Willis: Ironically, sometimes windows is faster in an emulator, due to seriously crap drivers.01:24
jeff_vmware?01:25
binary2k2jeff_: you can istall wine in adept, but look at the website for info http://www.winehq.org/01:25
Arafangionjeff_: vmware _is_ an emulator :)01:25
Dr_WillisArafangion:  ive heard its often due to the linux filesystems being so good. :)01:25
jeff_oh ok01:25
HymnToLifebut vmware actually works ;)01:25
georgebDr_Willis: that's a funny interesting ideea; let's create some packages with adware under wine so the transition from windows to linux will be more smooth "look, you also have your friendly pop-ups"01:25
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RawSewageHymnToLife, no, not there.  the ext doesnt list the program that I see when right-clicking01:25
ArafangionHymnToLife: It's more reliable, sure.01:25
barkatmonanyone have an thought about wep?01:26
HymnToLifeit just needs a stronger machine01:26
RawSewageHymnToLife, It's in the Actions menu01:26
ArafangionDr_Willis: That argument goes both ways, Ext3 has a number of flaws.01:26
RawSewageHymnToLife, how do I remove things from the Actions menu01:26
Dr_Willisgeorgeb:  yep.. wife was constantly getting these 'wallpaper/other things' with spyware wrappers.. id use wine.. extract the actual wallpaper, then remove the spyware stuff.01:26
ArafangionDr_Willis: The fs argument really is the cache.01:26
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Dr_WillisArafangion:  everything has flaws. :)01:26
binary2k2Arafangion: let's see what ext4 has01:26
RawSewageHymnToLife, Right-click, Actions -- And it shows the empty shell of the program that used to be installed01:26
Arafangionbinary2k2: ext4 is intruging.01:26
RawSewageHymnToLife, does that make sense01:26
jeff_how long ago did you guys start using linux?01:27
HymnToLifeyeah, got it ;)01:27
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Arafangionjeff_: Probably 6 years ago.01:27
Dr_Willisext4 - has potential :) or so i hear.01:27
HymnToLifebut I don't know how to change that, lemme have a lok at it01:27
shannonhow do I install the 2.6.17-7 kernel on edgy?01:27
hollywoodbbarkatmon: I don't use it, I just have MAC filtering on my router so only I can connect to it... I don't see why I need the signal between my systems and my router to be that 'secure'01:27
HymnToLifedoesn't it come with a 2.6.17-10 ?01:27
RawSewageHymnToLife, ok01:27
alexander_I know its off topic, but has anyone else had problems with gaim crashing? Just today, it started crashing whenever I opened a conversation window.01:27
Arafangionalexander_: It crashes because it is called "Gaim".01:28
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Arafangionalexander_: If it didn't crash, we'd have to call it something else.01:28
jeff_hehehe01:28
RawSewageHymnToLife, I think I found it01:28
alexander_ara: thank you, how very helpful.01:28
binary2k2jeff_: my verry 1st install was mandreke 6, or somethin (before it was called mandriva), back in mid 90's01:28
hollywoodbalexander_: why not just use kopete or the greatest IM client there is: centericq01:28
RawSewageHymnToLife,   .kde/share/apps/konqueror/servicemenus01:28
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RawSewageHymnToLife, I'll just delete those 2 .desktop files01:28
Arafangionbinary2k2: That the one with the broken compiler and the incompatible core libs?01:28
RawSewageHymnToLife, thx01:28
alexander_Because I like gaim, and just because I am stuborn.01:28
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Arafangionalexander_: Gaim is, and has always been, unstable.01:29
binary2k2Arafangion: i don't remember, i was like 12 :P01:29
Arafangionalexander_: Believe it or not, it's much better than it used to be.01:29
Arafangionbinary2k2: Ahh, in that case I'm probably thinking of MDK7.001:29
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barkatmonok.. hollywoodb well ill givit a try for a while.01:29
Arafangionbinary2k2: Frustrated me enough to get onto LFS.01:29
alexander_Yeah, the whole MSN thing was annoying. Well, I guess I am going to try reinstalling it then.01:29
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Arafangionalexander_: reinstalling won't make any difference.01:30
Arafangionalexander_: It only incidently seems to fix things on windwos because windows installers are a *joke*01:30
binary2k2Arafangion: my 1st taste of linux was on a 600MHz cpu with a whopping 1GB HDD :P01:30
alexander_In this case, I think it will. I think I messed with some setting I shouldnt have.01:30
Arafangionbinary2k2: Nice.01:30
jeff_My first decent install was about 2 years ago.  But I never did get very technical with it.  Once I got it on the internet i considered it good enough.01:30
Arafangionbinary2k2: I had a P 90 MHz01:31
binary2k2Arafangion: those were the days, all command line and buggy GUIs :D01:31
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Arafangionbinary2k2: I tried to run RH with Gnome, as root :) Those were the days.01:32
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binary2k2:P01:32
jeff_I've also got pclinuxos dual booting with windows xp on my dell laptop.01:32
Arafangionjeff_: I've actually deleted windows entirely.  Got sick of Visual Studio, when I caught myself typing TWO LINES IN ADVANCE, I thought "Damn, this is crap".  So now I run it in an emulator.01:33
Arafangionjeff_: Now, I can only type one line in advance. :)01:33
binary2k2I tried pcbsd a few months ago (in vmware) and tried compiling firefox, took about 3 hours :P01:33
hollywoodbbinary2k2: well that's vmware for ya :P01:33
jeff_hehe01:33
ArafangionActually, that's still fast.01:34
Bubba_Gumpheh, gnome01:34
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binary2k2i wasn't brave enough to dual boot it01:34
Bubba_Gumpevery time i hear gnome i think of pink floyd :P01:34
Arafangionbinary2k2: You should compile KDE ;)01:34
shannonIs it possible to install the 2.6.17-7 kernel on edgy?01:34
Arafangionbinary2k2: Takes longer than glibc.01:34
jeff_are u guys programmers?01:34
Arafangionshannon: Consult the dictionary, and ponder on the meaning of the term "possible".01:34
binary2k2Arafangion: no thanks, I actually want to use my PC this year :P01:34
Arafangionjeff_: I am, yes.01:34
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Arafangionbinary2k2: This is why I like Debian the best :)01:35
Arafangionbinary2k2: Though, I'm currently in Ubuntu-land because it supports my laptop better.01:35
binary2k2Arafangion: before i installed kubuntu i was running a pure debian system01:35
binary2k2Arafangion: with those 6 CDs01:36
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shannonArafangion: okay -- how about -- can I install linux 2.6.17-7-AMD64 through apt?01:36
jeff_cool, I think it would be cool to learn more about programming.  Especially with all the open source stuff available now.  Is Python a good lanquage to learn?01:36
Arafangionbinary2k2: I always did a netinstall.01:36
HymnToLifeI'm running Debian right now01:36
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Arafangionbinary2k2: Ran a Debian mirror on a 256k line once, damn I was a newbie then.01:36
HymnToLifeEtch, installed like a breeze on my lappy01:36
binary2k2Arafangion: i was on dial-up at the time01:36
Arafangionbinary2k2: Even so, it's still faster.01:36
alexander_hey, instead of crashing, it is hanging! progress!01:37
Arafangionbinary2k2: netinstall only downloads what you need.01:37
binary2k2Arafangion: i was young and fancy free :P01:37
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HymnToLifebut requires a working NIC01:37
Arafangionbinary2k2: Even then, the first three CD's is usually more than everybody needs.01:37
alexander_So how do I change my default browser to firefox?01:37
Arafangionbinary2k2: My first Debian was paid for, cost me $3001:38
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Arafangionbinary2k2: Which was cheaper than downloading it.01:38
binary2k2Arafangion: i dont think I ever used more than the first 2 CD's, othen than the odd package01:38
georgebshannon: I don't see 2.6.17-7 as a package; only 2.6.17-10, and that's the one that comes with edgy; you can check running uname -a01:38
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Arafangionshannon: Why do you want kernel 2.6.17-7?01:39
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binary2k2wasn't the the kernel on knot1?01:40
Arafangionhttp://www.thejemreport.com/mambo/content/view/251/ <-- Interesting article.01:40
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HymnToLifethat's definitely !offtopic01:40
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ArafangionHymnToLife: How so?01:41
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ubuntuHi01:42
HymnToLifebecause it has nothing whtsoever to do with Kubuntu support :)01:42
HymnToLife!hello | ubuntu01:42
ubuntuHow to I turn off the friggin' bouncing cursor? It annoys me to no end.01:42
ubotuhello: The classic greeting, and a good example. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1-4 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 472 kB01:42
alexander_Well, it (gaim) mysteriously fixed its self. Now I am going to go see if it will let me connect to IRC.01:42
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ArafangionHymnToLife: But it does, it raises awareness as to the purpose of a computer.01:43
Arafangionalejandro_: xchat is far superiour for irc.01:43
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ubuntuI don't like x-chat at all.01:43
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ubuntuHorrible interface.01:43
ubuntuI prefer konversation.01:43
ArafangionI haven't used konversation, but you do have to admit, xchat is still far superiour for irc than gaim.01:44
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ubuntuI haven't used gaim, so I wouldn't know.01:44
HymnToLifeant than Konvesation, too01:44
ubuntuI would probably take a gamble and say that I'd prefer gaim even over x-chat.01:44
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HymnToLifefriggin proxy blocking everything01:45
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HymnToLifeso I have to SSH into my home server and connect with irssi01:45
ArafangionHymnToLife: My uni blocked _everything_ except http via port 80 on the slow, overloaded proxy.01:45
ArafangionHymnToLife: Couldn't even ssh!01:45
binary2k2ubuntu: to turn off the bouncing cursor, go in to System Settings, click mouse and uncheck "Visual feedback on activation" (i think)01:45
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ubuntuThat doesn't work.01:46
noiesmoArafangion, you could tunnel ssh over http to by pass proxy there are scripts all you need is a ssh server to recive the tunnel on a particular port01:46
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dbglthey, I'm trying to get a gnome-esque panel up the top of the screen, but also incorporating the current menu of the selected application (like OSX), but kde is showing a double width panel01:46
Arafangionnoiesmo: No, I couldn't.01:46
dbgltis there any way to make it single width?01:46
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ubuntuIn kcontrol it would be in launch feedback, and when I "search" the System Settings, it gives me 1 result, but no actual icons lit up.01:47
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Arafangionnoiesmo: Correction: SOMETIMES I was able to tunnel through port 80 on the proxy, but it was extremely unreliable to connect, and once connected, it was so slow as to be nearly useless.01:47
noiesmoArafangion, well were I work all is block and I can tunnel out01:47
binary2k2ubuntu: there is  a check box in the kde menu editor that says launch feedback, that may be what you'r lookin for.01:47
arriespola01:47
binary2k2ubuntu: but it on all apps by default01:47
Arafangionnoiesmo: http polling was the _only_ mechanism available for a tunnel :(01:48
binary2k2ubuntu: don't know how to turn it off globaly01:48
ubuntubinary2k2: In "normal KDE" it would be in launch feedback.01:48
ubuntuWhy isn't it somewhere in System Settings? =/01:48
noiesmoArafangion, http://zwitterion.org/software/ssh-https-tunnel01:49
binary2k2ubuntu: you can get the "Clasic" system settings app with kcontrol01:49
jeff_ahhh man.  I just installed firefox with adept but it's not showing up in the program listing.01:49
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HymnToLifeubuntu, try running kcontrol, from konsole or something01:49
ubuntuI know that.01:49
HymnToLifeinstead of kubuntu's System Settings01:49
ubuntuI just wanted to know if it was possible without doing that and using the kubuntu menus.01:49
Arafangionnoiesmo: I am aware how to make a tunnel.01:49
ubuntuCould be that they had hidden it some place else.01:49
HymnToLifewell, seems it isn't :p01:49
Arafangionnoiesmo: I also suspect that it was an inspective proxy.01:50
noiesmoArafangion, k cool :)01:50
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Arafangionnoiesmo: Though, for a time, I managed to find an old, obscure sun server that offered telnet (and only telnet) access, which had telnet (and only telnet) access to the outside.01:51
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Arafangionnoiesmo: And even then, _only_ to the telnet port, but that, at least, was enough for irc ;)01:51
jeff_in kubuntu, do you have to reboot for a newly installed program to show up in the kmenu?01:51
kenshinxIs there a installer that does not involve invoking a gui, gui goes nuts on my lapo01:51
kenshinxlaptop*01:51
binary2k2jeff_: try running kbuildsycoca from konsole01:51
binary2k2jeff_: at worst, a logout and login01:51
jeff_k01:52
ArafangionOoh, a nice quote: Applicants must also have extensive knowledge of UNIX, although they should have sufficiently good programming taste to not consider this an achievement. (MIT job advertisement)01:52
HymnToLifekenshinx, get your hands on an Alternate CDs01:52
kenshinxmeh01:52
kenshinxill just install slackware 11 then01:52
Arafangionjeff_: rebooting is truely a windows phenomenon.01:52
HymnToLife(the "Alternate" name is funny btw, I'm pretty sure that's what most people use)01:52
hollywoodbjeff_: every great once in a while you hit an app that doesn't have a menu entry... it won't have a .desktop file as part of the package. if that happens file a bug @ launchpad to let the devs know01:52
HymnToLifeoh01:53
binary2k2HymnToLife: it's what i always use01:53
jeff_kio (KSycoca): ERROR: No database available!01:53
Arafangionjeff_: It is said that the only case where you may possibly have to reboot a Linux system, especially a modern linux system, is if you're upgrading the kernel or actually replacing a non-hot swappable hardware component.01:53
binary2k2I miss the days when you got the liveCD and the InstallCD01:53
lessnickhow do I configure panels that aren't the main panel?01:53
Arafangionjeff_: I suspect that most of window's reboots are caused by over-eager file locking and an inability to restart dependant services.01:53
jeff_oh, ok01:54
HymnToLifeyep, I still use my Breezy when I need a live CD01:54
HymnToLifeDapper's take ages to load01:54
binary2k2jeff_: if it won't showup (in the internet sub-menu) then just logout and back in01:55
jeff_hmm, well i make try to log in again and see if that makes a difference.  be right back01:55
jeff_k01:55
lessnickor how do I invoke/install the standard kde control center thing?01:55
kenshinxsweet01:55
HymnToLifekcontrol01:55
kenshinxfound a nice slackware .edu mirro01:55
kenshinxno caps from .edu w00t ;)01:55
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HymnToLifereminds me to reinstall my Slack too, fifth OS on my lappy :)01:56
kenshinxlol wtf!01:56
kenshinxi just have 2 :|01:56
lessnickHymnToLife: thank you. I finally found the drop down box to configure other panels in there.01:56
HymnToLifebut I guess I'll ditch Ubuntu out now I got my Debian working the way I want01:57
kenshinxmeh, 1meg a sec from the web...not bad01:57
HymnToLifeAnd try another one instead :p01:57
binary2k2try puting 5 versions of windows on one computer and see what happens :P01:57
kenshinxbinary2k2, hehe thats what we have virtualilzation softwrae :D01:57
kenshinxvmware, etc01:57
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HymnToLifevmwae is no fun01:57
HymnToLifeeverything working OOTB, blah01:58
binary2k2or qemu01:58
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lessnickI can't be the only one that uses multiple panels.. This was an annoying experience. Is it possible to get more of a vanilla kde configuration in kubuntu?01:59
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Dr_Willisi guess i only use the 1 panel. ;)02:00
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kenshinxi have like 2-3 panels usually02:01
jeff_well, it still didn't show up in the kmenu02:01
kenshinxusing kde02:01
kenshinxbut i use vanilla kde02:01
binary2k2jeff_: did you logout, then back in?02:01
jeff_i found firefox is the user/bin/lib folder02:01
jeff_yep02:01
binary2k2strange02:02
jeff_where is the actual execution file located?02:02
binary2k2jeff_: the binary?02:02
hollywoodbman, wonder how long its going to take to compile kde on freebsd under vmware :|02:02
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odres.l.l02:03
larson9999jeff_: kmenu is kinda goofey like that02:03
noiesmojeff_, binary2k2 I'm pretty sure that kubuntu-default-settings sets the menu etc and I have removed it so my menu is the normal kde style02:03
binary2k2jeff_: just run "firefox" from the run dialog (alt-f2)02:03
jeff_hey, it does work02:05
binary2k2noiesmo: i don't remeber how, but i once got it to have both KDE style and kubuntu style at the same time02:05
jeff_i just have no link in kmenu02:05
binary2k2jeff_: make one then :P02:05
jeff_how hard would it be to make one.  Or an ic0n on desktop02:05
binary2k2jeff_: easy, once you know how02:06
noiesmojeff_, right click on K menu button and select edit02:06
noiesmojeff_, menu edit that is02:06
HymnToLifebinary2k2, like pretty much everything :p02:06
binary2k2I'm glad they use the "official" firefox logo now, not the old blue world one02:07
HymnToLifethe blue one is stil there02:08
HymnToLifeun the uper left cornet and in the About windows02:08
binary2k2sorry, on edgy i mean02:08
HymnToLifein Edgy too02:08
binary2k2yeah, just noticed :P02:08
binary2k2I'll have to change that some time02:09
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HymnToLifeI stil go with the mozilla.com builds for FF and TB02:13
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lessnickI made an entire hard drive an lvm physical volume. It works fine, but fdisk and cfdisk consider the drive empty. This sounds like an accident waiting to happen...02:14
h3sp4wnHymnToLife: Its quite uninteresting firefox2 do you not think ? (minefield does seem quite a leapforward though)02:15
lessnickoh whoops there go all the important files in my home directory!02:15
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HymnToLifeh3sp4wn, I like it that way, so I do it that way :)02:15
h3sp4wnHymnToLife: There is daily builds of the trunk also you know02:16
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lessnickh3sp4wn: what makes it such a leap forward?02:19
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h3sp4wnlessnick: Renders CSS right02:21
jeff_alright, things are looking up now.  Got my firefox working.  I am able to acces one site I didn't used to be able to with firefox.  so thats good.02:22
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binary2k2jeff_: glad you got it workin02:22
jeff_thanks02:22
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lessnickh3sp4wn: hah. that's all you needed to say. I'd definitely consider that a big leap forward if that's all it improved.02:22
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jeff_I think i'm going to like kubuntu pretty good.02:23
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binary2k2i know i do :D02:23
HymnToLifeI liked it too, until I got Debian working on my lappy :p02:24
jeff_can you edit the bootloader from within kubuntu.  I was wondering if i could change the boot order.02:24
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HymnToLifejeff_, sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst02:24
enoteei get "Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format:" when i try to burn  .wma files in Amarok02:25
jeff_will it let me select the order, or do i manually have to enter it02:25
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HymnToLifewhat do you mean "order" ?02:26
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Dr_Willisenotee:  i would say track down a way to convert the wma to mp3's02:27
jeff_well, im dual booting with windows02:27
HymnToLifeand would like to boot Windows by default ?02:27
jeff_by default it boots kubuntu in a certain amount of time02:27
jeff_yes02:27
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LjL!grub02:28
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto02:28
HymnToLifejust edit the default line in your menu.lst02:28
jeff_ok, thanks02:28
LjLhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/ChangeDefaultOS specifically02:28
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jeff_yes02:29
jeff_thankyour02:29
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momalanyone know a good progam that will edit tags on mp3 files based on there filename and path?... amarok does it but it stops if it hits something like ! in one of the names :(... and i need one that will do it all in one hit with amarok i would need to click 2 different buttons each time >_<02:31
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noiesmomomal, easytag might help02:32
binary2k2HymnToLife: I got firefox to use the official logo, quite easy actually02:32
lessnickmomal: I've never used it, but I've heard good things about easytag02:33
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momalthanks will try it out ^_-02:34
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campbchwhen installing a new cursor theme, what file should i use for the manager? it pulls up a dialogue asking for the cursor theme, but i select -------.theme and it states that it is not a valid theme file?02:38
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enoteewhat app should i use to convert .wma to mp302:40
campbch... don't use either!02:41
campbchconvert to .ogg, use vorbis tools... for a nice gui use...02:41
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campbch!soundkonverter02:41
RawSewageDoes anyone know how to enable Audio Previews02:41
ubotusoundkonverter: KDE frontend to various audio converters. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1047 kB, installed size 1980 kB02:41
hollywoodbRawSewage: audio previews of what?02:41
RawSewageSo when I hold my mouse over an audio file in Konqueror, it plays it02:41
Dr_Willisive seen that... very annoying.. :)02:42
RawSewageI need it02:42
Dr_Willis'need' ? lol02:42
RawSewageYes02:42
RawSewageIm making audio shows and have to sort through hundreds of clips02:42
RawSewageSo I do 'need' it02:42
Dr_Willisi recall some packae was needed to be insalled for it to work..but cant rember the  exact one.02:42
RawSewageI had it working once a while ago02:43
Dr_Willismight also be a setting under the previews control-panel-thing02:43
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RawSewageI've looked through all of that02:43
RawSewageGuess I'll search the forums a bit more02:43
RawSewageMost of their advice is for Nautilus though02:44
Dr_Willishmm... perhaps hats where i saw it also...02:44
hollywoodbRawSewage: give google a shot, find the package, then search for it in the repos02:44
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Dr_Willisask in #KDE if its even doable?02:44
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RawSewageOk02:44
RawSewageThanks02:45
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momalthanks, easytag seems to do what i want :)... now to go through 3400+ songs >_<02:47
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campbchwhenever i try to save an image in firefox, it tries to save a download.php file? why is this? the url is not a .php, it is a .jpg, and it works fine in konqueror?02:49
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h3sp4wnWho knows the format of ~/.gtk2rc ?02:50
Dr_Willisi dont evn have one. ;)02:51
binary2k2i have a ~/.gtkrc-2.002:52
jeff_well, i edited the bootloader, but got it to default to the wrong line because evidently i did some updates now more than one kernel shows up in the boot listing.  2 boot kernels and 2 recovery02:52
binary2k2jeff_: so you have 5 items in the list now?02:53
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h3sp4wnbinary2k2: Can you pastebin it so I can see the format ?02:53
jeff_and i don't remember the command to get in there and edit it again.  the commands on the tutorial didn't work.  it was the one with the nano in it that worked02:53
h3sp4wnbinary2k2: (unless its horrendously long)02:53
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HymnToLifesudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst02:53
jeff_yep 5 boot options02:53
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lessnickjeff_: the comment in my grub.conf mentions something about savedefualt. you might want to try that.02:54
binary2k2h3sp4wn: i'll do that for ya, it's only small02:54
h3sp4wnbinary2k2: thanks alot02:54
jeff_thanks hymn that was it02:54
binary2k2h3sp4wn: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30236/02:55
theholycowIs there a way to dump my RAM contents or view them? I've got a bunch of unsaved work in a frozen gedit... (yes, I'm a dumbass)02:55
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h3sp4wnbinary2k2: thanks alot02:56
binary2k2h3sp4wn: no problem02:56
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RawSewageAudio Previews enabled by:  View - Preview - Sound Files03:04
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lessnicktheholycow: I'm sure it's possible03:04
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lessnicktheholycow: I always that /dev/mem would let me poke at all the memory.. but I'm running "strings" on it now and I'm not finding much03:05
theholycowhey, neato...it's running away with my CPU and my RAM, too. :(03:05
MistaEDtheholycow: if you can, try and look up how to dd your ram onto the hdd as an image03:05
theholycowlessnick: Silly me...I was looking in /proc. I'll check out /dev/mem now.03:05
Dr_Willisheh in the old days...03:06
lessnicktheholycow: i seem to be wrong though :-(03:06
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Dr_Willisfor x = 1 to 1000000000000 ; print chr$(peek()),;next x03:07
theholycowMistaED: That sounds like a bad idea -- maybe causing an endless loop. Maybe I can dd it incrementally or something...03:07
MistaEDyeah no idea, just a suggestion03:07
theholycowMistaED: Maybe okay. It is a suggested use of dd in http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/How_To_Do_Eveything_With_DD03:08
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theholycowhttp://security.raffy.ch/Network_Security/Forensics/Forensic_Analysis.php3 says it's okay too03:09
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theholycowwell, what do I have to lose...if I drop out of here, you'll know what happened. <G>03:10
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theholycowneato03:16
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theholycowI ran strings on the output03:16
theholycowI forgot that it would be so fragmented...03:17
lessnickare you finding the contents of your text file?03:17
lessnickI used "gcore" that the security.raffy.ch page mentioned and had much better luck. I found the contents of a vi session.03:18
theholycowI can't tell. A  lot of it was pasted in bits and pieces from other stuff that's open...03:18
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theholycownice...I didn't even notice that.03:20
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iraWOW I have edgy running 64AMD and an ATI card... I rock!03:22
irabut...03:22
irais there a flash player for X86_64?03:22
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h3sp4wnira: gnash only03:23
theholycowgcore is one damn cool piece of software! I can study what kind of data is actually in use...03:24
iragnash? pouquoir03:24
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irano gnash in Adept03:25
h3sp4wn!gnash03:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gnash - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:26
h3sp4wnira: http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/03:27
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letalisgnash is in constant development03:27
letalisyou about have to build it from cvs03:27
iraok so I have to install cvs03:27
lessnicktheholycow: i agree, I'm happy to have learned about it today. I'm a little annoyed that it doesn't have a man page.03:27
letalisira: how much expierence do you have building from source?03:28
theholycowlessnick: seems it has extremely little syntax anyway03:28
iraI am glad you asked!03:28
iraI havent rolled a kernal in 3 years03:28
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iraso I would say on a scale of 1 to 1003:28
letaliswell then, its like riding a bike.03:29
ira.503:29
letalisLOL03:29
iraare you brave enought to run me throught it03:29
letaliswell cvs instructions will be on gnashs website03:30
letalisthe channel they are in here is #gnash03:30
letalisyou might want to ask them if cvs is stable enough to use right now03:30
letalisbefore you do it03:30
iraok well I have installed cvs from adept03:30
iraand downloaded gnash03:31
iraso there I am going03:31
binary2k2there is a tar.gz here http://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnash/0.7.1/03:31
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iragot it03:31
theholycowhmm...gotta find pre-fab sed for eliminating duplicate lines...03:31
letalison sites that i absolutely have to have flash i just run firefox from wine :)03:31
letalislol03:31
iralike er youtube?03:31
letalisi think youtube uses windows media player doesnt it?03:32
larson9999now there's flash 9 on linux! woohoo!03:32
theholycowyoutube uses flash. I just use youtube-get03:32
irabut not 64 bit03:32
irawhat is that?03:32
theholycowit's a script that downloads the file03:33
theholycowthen you can play it with ffplay03:33
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letalisira: your other option is to setup a 32 bit chroot and get the 32 bit version of your browser in it03:33
theholycow(and you can keep it on your hard drive!)03:33
letalishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575&highlight=chroot03:33
letalisexcellent howto03:34
larson9999ira don't you chroot ff?03:34
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iranope03:34
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irathe chroot is interested it works for edgy as well03:35
h3sp4wnira: Or build a 32 bit firefox against ia32-libs03:35
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h3sp4wnira: (avoids using chroot) but with schroot it can be pretty seemless03:36
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h3sp4wnira: or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202537 (if you want to do the first without doing it yourself)03:37
letalisi have two chroots in edgy right now03:37
letalisone for 32 bit builds and such03:38
letalisone for 64 bit ones03:38
h3sp4wnletalis: Do you use schroot ?03:38
letaliskeeps from having to have all the development stuff loaded into my actual installation03:38
letalisdchroot03:38
letaliswhich i think uses schroot since it installed it as well03:38
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h3sp4wnBut with dchroot you have to have /dev etc specifically mounted or bound to use ?03:40
h3sp4wnI am using schroot now which handles that without loads of entries in fstab03:40
letalisan example line in fstab would look like this:03:40
letalis./dev /chroot/dev bind none 0 003:40
letalistheyre bound03:41
h3sp4wnI have used it before but if you use schroot properly they are not necessary03:41
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iranow al i have to find is a better itc client then Konversation03:42
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BluesKajKonversation rocks !... good luck finding something better :)03:43
ravencrowbetter than konversation?03:43
ravencrowkonversation is the best ;[03:43
TFrogfrankly i like KVirc as an irc client03:43
campbch:D ethereal is awesome03:43
binary2k2wireshark03:44
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theholycowBitchX kicks ass, but konversation sure is convenient03:44
letalisgood old bitchx03:44
letalis:)03:44
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campbchyeah03:44
lessnickfor an irc client, i haven't strayed from irssi in years.03:45
nertili didi it03:45
nertili maked it03:45
campbchbut wireshark isn't on the repositories yet03:45
nertilkubuntu working on my machine03:45
nertilnice!03:45
nertil:D03:45
binary2k2campbch: yeah it is, i have it installed03:45
h3sp4wnlessnick: Do you use irssi in xterm ?03:45
binary2k2campbch: the ethereal package just depends on wireshark now03:46
letalisirssi in a screen is nice03:46
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letalisyou can move it between a console and X03:46
lessnickh3sp4wn: inside screen inside a konsole window at the moment.03:47
ravencrowconsole irc clients are boring..I need teh eyecandy03:47
ravencrow;[03:47
ravencrowlol03:47
letalisconsole irc. they way it was meant to be, damnit.03:48
letalis:)03:48
ravencrow:P03:48
h3sp4wnlessnick: Still trying to work out how to use /bind to get alt + arrows working right (XTerm*metaSendsEscape:  true) alt + number (but for alt + right arrow I have to currently use escape)03:48
letalisif i wasnt working in X at the moment id be in irssi03:48
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h3sp4wnlessnick: I prefer the way screen does tab's to the way konsole does them (just use xterm + screen)03:49
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irai'm looking at the Adapt manager I want to add the universe but I am unsure what my uncommented lines should look like03:50
ravencrowjust take off the #03:50
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iraok right click enable!03:50
theholycowh3sp4wn: Screen can do tabs? I've used screen for years and didn't know it can display any tabs03:50
ravencrowoh yes03:50
ravencrowright click enable in adept03:50
ravencrow:P03:50
h3sp4wntheholycow: control a w (lists the tabs)03:51
letalistheholycow: well not tabs persay but it does multiple screens and you can set it to monitor ones for activity.03:51
lessnickh3sp4wn: I like the way I can gracefully resize my fonts and change my colors on the fly with konsole. It's ugly and awkward in xterm.03:51
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theholycowh3sp4wn: OIC...I've seen the "ctrl-a w" list before. I thought you meant it used ncurses or something03:51
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irahow can adapt not have electric sheep?03:52
h3sp4wntheholycow: caption always "%{= Gr}%c  %{= G0}%-w%{= RG}%50>%n-%t%{-}%+w%<"03:52
theholycowEterm kicks konsole and xterm's asses03:52
h3sp4wntheholycow: if you put that in screenrc you get the tab always there03:52
h3sp4wntheholycow: Doesn't support utf803:52
letalisyakuake03:52
letalisgreatest idea ever.03:52
letalis:)03:52
ubuntubuenas03:53
millkhow do i set it so that all files created within a directory are created with a specific group as file's group,  the equivalent of persistent 'chgrp groupname /path/to/directory'03:53
arriespxao gente03:53
letalisyou could use wildcards to do it03:53
theholycowh3sp4wn: That's cool...I'll have to fix the color, though. ;)03:53
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iraAny respitorys that shoule be added to adept that it doesnt come with?03:53
letalisbut it would only affect the files in the directory in quesiton03:54
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h3sp4wntheholycow: Do you use split etc ?03:54
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Arafangionh3sp4wn: Easier to just use multiple xterms than to split.03:55
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h3sp4wnArafangion: No way03:55
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lessnickmillk: set the directory sticky bit i think. chmod g+s or g+S. I can't remember which.03:55
Arafangionh3sp4wn: What's wrong with multiple xterms?03:56
theholycowh3sp4wn: Split? No, but maybe I do now! ;)03:56
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h3sp4wnArafangion: How do you move a terminal between xterms03:56
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lessnickmillk: just google group sticky bit, i'm sure you'll find a good description.03:57
Arafangionh3sp4wn: Oh, I see what your thinking.03:57
Arafangionh3sp4wn: I meant, multiple xterms, but using the /same/ screen.03:57
theholycowh3sp4wn: Er...now how do I unsplit? Cripes, I've been using screen for years and forgotten half the features for which I originally started to use it!03:58
letalisscreen -d -r i think03:58
millklessnick, thanks, got her :)03:58
letalisin the one you want it moved to03:58
theholycowMoving a screen session is as easy as screen -d -r. If that's not strong enough, you can do screen -D -R, or -DD -RR03:58
theholycowI don't know what those stronger options are for, but I've never needed them. -d -r has always done the job for me no matter what.03:59
h3sp4wntheholycow: control a X (capital X)03:59
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Zairereal great help in the xgl channel :S03:59
h3sp4wnArafangion: I suppose it does not make much difference if you do it like that04:00
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h3sp4wnArafangion: Do you use irssi in xterm ?04:01
Lunar_Ravencan you use irssi in a virtual console w/ out X running?04:02
jeff_well, i got my boot order working properly now04:02
theholycowh3sp4wn: okay, one more screen question. I used to have this one in my screenrc, but no longer. How do I get rid of the splash screen ("Press space or return to end")?04:02
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jeff_i geuss everytime you upgrade the kernal your going to have 2 more boot options?04:02
h3sp4wntheholycow: startup_message off04:03
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theholycownice04:03
lessnickjeff_: you could always uninstall the older kernels04:04
theholycowI might not keep the status line...I already have time and current window in my bash prompt. The status just gives me the list of windows.04:04
lessnickjeff_: I don't reccommend doing it until you are sure the new one boots :-)04:04
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h3sp4wntheholycow: If you have every machine you are connected to in the same window all the time it doesn't matter its only useful when you connect to alot of different machines (pretty randomly)04:06
jeff_i've booted it a few times now, i guess i can try it awhile and then unistall.  Hopefully that will remove the old versions from grub too?04:07
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theholycowh3sp4wn: Actually, I use screen inversely -- I have a bunch of shells open on one machine, and everywhere I go I ssh in and hook up to my whole load of screen windows04:08
chris_why can i only see installed packages in apt, when I have "show all packages" checked?04:08
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Arafangionh3sp4wn: I do actually use irssi in a single urxvt, as I don't tend to split much.04:09
Arafangionh3sp4wn: I do like vsplit's in vim, though.04:10
binary2k2chris_: check that the repositorys aren't commented out in your /etc/apt/sources.list04:10
lessnickjeff_: nomrally, yes it does remove them from grub. I'm not 100% sure how it behaves if you've manually edited your grub. =] 04:11
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jeff_ill probably just wait awhile then and uninstall the old kernels04:11
chris_binary2k2, yeah, that did it....I'm not sure what all this is...kinda new to ubuntu04:11
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binary2k2chris_: if the installer can't connect to the servers when it's installing, it will comment them out04:12
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binary2k2chris_: you just have to edit the file as root and remove the "#" before the lines with "deb ..."04:13
yamaljeff_: read /boot/grub/menu.lst; it contains a number of options to control the amount of kernels added automatically04:13
chris_binary2k2, yeah i did...it works, thanks.04:13
jeff_ok, thanks yamal04:14
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h3sp4wnLunar_Raven: definately04:16
h3sp4wnLunar_Raven: definately04:16
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h3sp4wnLunar_Raven: yep04:16
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TehUniis the "sharing" tab in system settings messed up for anyone else, or just me? running edgy w/ kde 3.5.5. can't change anything, and text it all garbled04:17
jeff_actually, this is the first time ive used grub.  my other installations i installed lilo in the superblock of the root partition and then used windows boot loader to select the os to boot.04:17
binary2k2TehUni: mine works fine - edgy/kde 3.5.504:19
Lunar_Ravenlol ok :P.  Sounds interesting .  I like my graphics..but i'll try it out sometime for fun04:19
TehUnimmm04:20
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nertilhow to install package essential build04:21
nertili mean gcc,cc,c compiler04:21
nertilall in one04:21
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binary2k2package build-essential04:22
phwicketthi guys04:22
phwickettyou hav etime for a basic question?04:22
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binary2k2!build-essential04:22
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:22
phwicketthow do i get rid of the god damn dual monitor, it wont go away lol04:22
phwicketti would really appreciate the help04:23
nertilone more question04:23
phwickettotherwise im stuck with 800x60004:23
nertilhow to run the ppoe internet line always04:23
nertilevery time i want to use an website i must type pon dsl-provider04:23
nertiland that sux04:23
binary2k2dunnow about that (to both questions)04:23
TehUniphwickett: take it out of xorg.conf ?04:24
phwickettim new at this04:25
nertilmy problem please?04:25
phwickettim a windows admin04:25
phwickettlol04:25
BluesKajwelcome to the new world phwickett :)04:26
phwickettthankx04:26
phwickettit was a bitch to setupp for a nube like me04:26
phwickettbut it sure kicks the shit out of windows04:26
phwickettno more god damn blue screens of death04:27
TehUniheh, i'm with you04:27
TehUnii switched about a year ago04:27
jeff_phwickett, you need haul off and hit the 2nd monitor with a sledge hammer.  Then you'll be on one monitor.04:27
TehUnii know windows inside and out... it's weird to be a newb again04:27
BluesKajnot an instant gratification OS , but the rewards are worth the effort :)04:27
phwicketthow do i do that04:27
phwickettlol04:27
TehUniphwickett: sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:27
phwickettthere is so second monitor04:27
phwickettthats the problem04:27
phwickettso i enter that into bash?04:27
TehUniyea04:27
TehUnithen paste that at pastebin for us04:28
nertilwill anyone fix my problem04:28
jeff_that's right, bash it, bash it to pieces04:28
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LjL!language | phwickett04:28
ubotuphwickett: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.04:28
phwickettok sorry04:28
phwickettwell that didnt work04:29
phwickettcommand not found04:29
TehUni? you dont have kate installed?04:29
phwickettwhats that04:29
TehUnikate is like notepad04:29
phwicketti just got done installing k3b, god that rules04:29
phwicketti dunno let me look04:29
TehUniphwickett: did you do a regular install of kubuntu? if so, kate and k3b are both installed by default. they come with kde.04:30
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nertilhow to make my internet connection to be on always04:30
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TehUniotherwise you can use vim, but it's not fun if you're new to linux.04:30
nertilwithout pon dsl-provider04:30
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jeff_I don't think kate will show up with a dual monitor setup. Lol04:31
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TehUnijeff_: huh? i'm in a triple monitor setup04:31
nertilWILL ANYONE HELP ME04:31
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jeff_oh cool 3 monitors04:32
nertilWILL ANYONE HELP ME04:32
TehUniyea, is nice. 2x for ubuntu and 1 for my WinXP VM04:32
nertilWILL ANYONE HELP ME04:32
phwickettyeah ive got a reg. install of kubuntu04:32
jeff_do you have 3 vid cards04:32
theholycownertil: No need to yell. What kind of connection do you have?04:32
phwickettwell, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM lol04:32
phwickettno i only hav eone04:32
nertilPPPOE04:32
TehUnijeff_: 2 dual-headed04:32
phwickett51204:32
phwickettyeah04:32
TehUniphwickett: type: sudo kate04:32
TehUniin konsole04:33
nertilevery time i want to open a website i must type pon dsl-provider04:33
phwickettok04:33
phwickettjust a sec04:33
phwickettthanx for your help BTW04:33
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theholycownertil: Nothig beats a $20 router for keeping a PPPoE connecton up. Takes the load away from the computer, too.04:33
lessnickmy router does my pppoe stuff so i have no idea how to use pon or anything.04:33
TehUninp.. i was lost too lot too long ago04:33
TehUni*not too long04:33
nertilheh04:34
nertilthan no help for me right04:34
phwickettdarn04:34
phwicketti dont know the password04:34
TehUniphwickett: ?04:34
theholycownertil: What program do you use to connect, and when does your connection go down?04:34
secleinteerhi, i'm trying to compile fung-calc, but i get an error saying that the qt headers and libraries are not found. does anyone know how i can fix this?04:34
TehUniyou dont know the sudo password?04:34
jeff_do you need a pretty strong machine to run kubuntu and winxp on vm?04:34
TehUniyou've got bigger problems then, heh04:34
phwicketti know it but it rejects it04:34
nertili dont know if i want to use a website i always must type pon dsl-provider04:35
nertilfor every website04:35
nertilis there any command04:35
TehUnijeff_: it was ok before on my p4 3.2ghz. but i just built a core2duo 6600 w/ 4gigs of ram esp for it. so it runs flawlessly04:35
nertilto start the PPPOE just once and internet to be up04:35
nertileverytime i want to use something04:35
binary2k2secleinteer: install libqt3-headers and libqt3-mt-dev04:35
phwickettman, i dont get this04:36
TehUniphwickett: you're going to have to reboot in "recovery mode" and reset your pass. it's kinda like safe mode.04:36
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phwickettbut why does it work in everything else i wonder04:36
TehUnibut command line only04:36
jeff_cool tehuni, your system is awesome04:36
phwickettyeah youve got mine beat04:36
secleinteerbinary2k2: i already have those packages04:37
phwickettyou piece of crap04:37
phwickettlol04:37
phwickett;)04:37
TehUniphwickett: you'll have to use the same root password for everything04:37
theholycownertil: man pon tells me that pon -r might do the job04:37
TehUniso you wont be able to do anything until you get your pass04:37
TehUniit oughtta be a good system. it's 2 days old, heh04:37
theholycownertil: Oops, maybe not. That option might only be for poff.04:37
phwickettbut i use the root password for everything04:37
phwickettand it works04:38
nertilpoff makes the connection down04:38
phwickettjust not in the damn console04:38
TehUniphwickett: type: sudo -s04:38
TehUnithen your pass04:38
phwickettWOW04:38
TehUnican you get to root that way?04:38
phwickettIT WORKED04:38
TehUnicool04:38
phwickettgod i love you04:38
TehUninow04:38
jeff_man, now i need a new computer04:38
phwickettlol'04:38
TehUnikate /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:39
phwicketthow the hell did you do that04:39
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theholycownertil: Well, looks like we're beyond my pon expertise. Maybe somebody else here can add something...04:39
phwickettyou rule Teh04:40
phwickettaccept i got a buttload of errors lol04:40
phwickettmaybe i just need to reboot04:40
TehUnithat's normal04:40
phwicketti usually just use poweroff04:40
TehUniyou see your xorg.conf in an editor now?04:40
arunkalesomeone please help me.. i upgraded yesterday from dapper to edgy, and when i rebooted, i could see edgy in the list of OSes in grub.. and I started Edgy. I got the loading screen where all the startup processes happen without any problem, but instead of the login screen after that, i just get a blank!04:40
TehUninertil: you try just using kppp ?04:40
binary2k2secleinteer: that should be all you need04:40
TehUniarunkale: you using an ati card?04:41
phwicketthow do i look at thtat Teh04:41
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TehUniphwickett: that command should open that file in an text editor for you. did it not?04:41
jeff_what is dapper and edgy?04:41
TehUnijeff_: releases of ubuntu04:42
TehUnidapper is 6.06 and edgy is 6.1004:42
jeff_oic04:42
secleinteerbinary2k2: i'm still getting the same error04:43
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arunkaleTechUni: No, an integrated video card04:43
arunkaleTehUni*04:43
phwickettill reboot and let you know what sup04:43
phwickettthanks for the help teh04:43
theholycowAccording to dictionary.com: Dapper-neat; trim; smart. Edgy-nervously irritable; impatient and anxious. <G>04:43
TehUniarunkale: have you started in recovery mode and started x manually?04:43
arunkaleTehUni: No, how do I do that, and what would happen if I do that?04:44
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jeff_lol04:44
jeff_nice observation holy cow04:45
binary2k2secleinteer: take a look in the config.log04:45
TehUniarunkale: when you first boot and you see the grub saying "booting in 3..2..1." hit escape to view the kernel options. then go to your current kernel and select "recovery mode'04:45
TehUniyou'll boot to a console04:45
TehUnifrom there type "startx"04:46
TehUniit'll tell you why it crashes.04:46
arunkaleok04:46
arunkaleand how do i fix it then?04:46
TehUnidunno04:46
TehUnidepends on the error04:46
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arunkaleTehUni: when i get the blank screen, if I press the Ctrl key, i get a terminal04:47
TehUnictrl+f1, you mean?04:48
arunkaleno just ctrl04:48
TehUniweird04:49
TehUniwell04:49
TehUnitype startx04:49
TehUniwhen it crashes, note the error04:49
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arunkalealright04:50
arunkalebrb04:50
arunkalethanks :)04:50
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rhodrihi, i'm running edgy and (i think) the laptop power management tools (whatever they are, kde-guidance?) are turning my screen off after 10 mins on inactivity, this is *really* annoying when i'm watching movies, can i disable this functionality?  thanks04:52
TehUnirhodri: most apps have a setting to disable x-screensaver during playback04:53
TehUnimplayer and vlc both have that option, i believe04:53
[H5N1] rhodri, are you using XGL?04:53
[H5N1] I have the same problem.04:53
lessnickkompose is pretty dissappointing. especially after having just used compiz's expose feature.04:53
rhodriyes i am, is it a setting of that?  i'm using beryl04:53
[H5N1] Seems to be a bug with xgl and kubuntu04:54
[H5N1] I even tried turning off DPMS completely, no luck.04:54
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[H5N1] Even tried setting it manually, no luck.04:54
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rhodria bug, i see, so there;s nothing i can do for now?04:55
[H5N1] I don't know yet.04:55
eddiecan us04:56
eddiecanyoushelpmycompkeepsjumpin04:56
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eddiehi asl04:57
[H5N1] You can do DISPLAY=:0 xset q or DISPLAY=:104:57
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[H5N1] No matter what I do, I just can't turn it off.04:58
arunkaleTehUni: you there?04:58
[H5N1] DISPLAY=:0 xset dpms 004:58
[H5N1] Maybe it'll work for you04:58
TehUniyup04:58
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eddiecan yous hlp me04:58
arunkaleI typed startx as you said, and I got the following message: xinit: connection refused (errno 111) unable to connnect to x server04:58
arunkaleand on the next line, 'xinit: no such process (errno 3): server error04:59
eddiehow do i get my comp to stop junmpin04:59
theholycoweddie: Take away it's legs.04:59
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eddiehaha04:59
theholycowcan you describe the "jumping" in more detail?04:59
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eddiethe scream is jumpn is wasnt do diz before my comp is new05:01
TehUnimm... dont know about that one05:01
TehUnisorry05:01
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eddieim undermy fathers scream name05:02
eddieasl05:02
arunkaleTehUni: that was for me?05:02
TehUniarunkale: a quick google makes it look like x isn't installed (or not correctly)05:03
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TehUnihas it worked before? or is this a fresh install?05:03
arunkaleDapper was working perfectly05:03
eddieit wrokd05:03
TehUniarunkale: just out of curiosity try: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg05:04
arunkaleTehUni: alright, brb05:05
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eddiemy comp is unde05:05
arunkaledo i do an apt-get or a dkpg-reconfigure05:05
mendredhi has anyone installed audacity from the edgy repositories?05:05
eddieu think u can lig in my comp05:05
eddielog05:06
TehUnieither05:06
theholycoweddie: Sounds like maybe a problem with the refresh rate05:06
TehUnii just wanted to know if it was installed05:06
TehUniapt-get would install it if it's not.05:06
TehUniif it is, do the reconfigure.05:06
arunkalealright05:06
arunkalebrb, thanks05:06
eddiemy das friend05:06
eddiemy dad friend did something to it05:07
eddiemy compisunderkubuntu05:08
eddieit was under windows xp05:08
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chris_how can i find out if I'm using edgy or dapper?05:09
abattoirchris_: 'lsb_release -a' in a terminal05:09
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eddieteUni05:10
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eddieR U THERE05:10
phwickettwell i got it to go05:10
chris_abattoir, thanks05:10
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phwickettbut i do have one more problem05:10
TehUniphwickett: got what to go?05:10
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phwickettthe monitor05:10
phwickett1280x102405:10
TehUnioh... good05:10
phwickettbut now when i boot up, i have a USB keyboard and mouse, and i have to switch them all the time to get them to work lol05:11
phwickettany ideas?05:11
theholycoweddie_: You need to find out what's the currently used tool for configuring X. I haven't done it in so long I don't know.05:11
TehUniwhat do you mean switch them?05:11
eddie_U THINK U CAN LOG IN MY COMP IF ITS NOT A PROMBLE05:11
phwicketti have to switch the usb cables around in the back for kubuntu to pick up the mouse and the keyboard05:12
phwickettand man its a pain in the ass lol05:12
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eddie_TEYUni05:13
phwickettthe only solution that i can think of is getting converters from usb to PS205:13
phwickettbecause there is NO WAY i am going back to windows05:13
phwickettstupid cd keys05:13
eddie_u think u can log into my comp05:13
theholycoweddie_: your capslock is on. I can't login to your computer and fix it; most X configuration tools are graphical.05:13
eddie_ok05:14
phwicketti have the usb crap enabled in the BIOS05:14
eddie_ITS OFF05:14
phwickettwhats off05:14
phwickettoh nm05:14
phwickettso any ideas brother ?05:14
eddie_the caps lock is off05:14
TehUniphwickett: sec. crashing over here, heh05:15
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eddie_theholyow05:16
eddie_can u log into my comp05:16
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theholycoweddie: I can't. To configure X, you must be at the console, as you use a terminal to start a graphical configuration program.05:16
theholycoweddie_: ...and you have to be able to watch the results.05:17
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theholycoweddie_: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3367.html says sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree8605:17
eddie_u want me to click on that05:17
theholycowno, type the command that begins with "sudo". I cited the web page as a reference.05:18
phwickett_anyone know why kubuntu doesnt support usb mice/keyboards05:19
TehUniphwickett: check your xorg.conf to be sure it's using the right driver05:19
TehUnisudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:19
TehUnierr05:19
TehUnisudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:19
phwickett_but what do i check05:20
phwickett_im sorry im REALLY knew to this05:20
phwickett_im an MCSE lol05:20
lessnickbleh, compiz-plugins failed to install because I don't have gconf. why didn't it pull it as a dependency.05:20
phwickett_im sorry for all the dumbass quesations, but gotta start somewhere05:20
eddie_diz sudodgkg-reconfifure xpfree8605:20
TehUniphwickett_: i'm telling you.. dont feel bad. i was in EXACTLY you're boat a year ago. i'm a pc tech too. and i know windows like the back of my hand. but linux is scary at first05:21
lessnicknow i seem to need to install all kinds of gnome garbage just to get rid of compiz-plugins05:21
theholycowphwickett: Once you get rolling and have a better feel for what you don't know, groups.google.com and of course regular google search are both your friend05:21
TehUniphwickett_: run that command. in that file there's some comment about using usb drives. you'll see it.05:21
phwickett_ok'05:21
phwickett_which command05:22
phwickett_both05:22
phwickett_in sequence05:22
TehUnisudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:22
phwickett_and do i do it in root mode05:22
TehUnino05:22
TehUnilet me explain for a sec05:22
TehUniyou're logged in under your username05:22
eddie_ill be back05:22
TehUni(k)ubuntu doesnt have a root user05:22
TehUniinstead, it creates a fake one05:22
eddie_im fuckin pist05:23
eddie_off05:23
TehUnito access it, you type "sudo" before each command05:23
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TehUniwhen you do that, it means that you want to run the following command as a superuser (root)05:23
TehUniso when you type "kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" you can view it, but you cant change it05:23
theholycoweddie_: Chill. Schitt happens.05:23
eddie_no it fuckin dont05:24
TehUniwhen you type "sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" it asks you for your root password. after it accepts it, you can edit the file as root05:24
TehUnigot it?05:24
theholycoweddie_: Well, it happens to _me_ all the time.05:24
eddie_am a feamale05:24
phwickett_yup05:24
TehUniit's like running a program as a different user in windows05:24
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Zaire!language >eddie05:24
phwickett_what was the command u showed me earlier to log in as a root05:24
eddie_1705:24
TehUnisudo -s05:24
eddie_f05:24
theholycowTehUni: Actually, it asks for your user password, not the root password05:24
eddie_bx05:24
Zaire!language eddie05:24
TehUnigives your root05:24
TehUnitheholycow: right.05:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about language eddie - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:24
eddie_my dads fuckin smart ass fuck up my comp05:25
abattoireddie_: please mind the language05:25
Zaireyea05:25
Zairethis aint the dock ;)05:25
phwickett_ok thanks05:26
eddie_is u was mad ur feel the same way05:26
theholycowphwickett_: BTW, the command to get a real root prompt is "sudo su -"05:26
abattoireddie_: what's the issue?05:26
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xsachayou're on a computer eddie_, how bad could it be? :)05:27
eddie_my dads friend did somethin to my comp05:27
TehUnitheholycow: sudo -s does the same thing  ;)05:27
TehUniphwickett_: so i'll break that command down for you (stop me if i'm dumbing down too much, just trying to help)05:27
abattoireddie_: ok, what did he/she do?05:27
theholycowTehUni: Well I'll be a monkey's bare-assed uncle!05:27
Zairethats why I have mine passworded lol05:27
eddie_i dont no05:28
xsachadid he do rm -rf / ?05:28
eddie_its jumpin05:28
TehUnisudo (use as root) kate (notepad) /etc/X11/xorg.conf (your display settings)05:28
abattoireddie_: what's happening? 'symptoms' ?05:28
eddie_my scream05:28
TehUnitheholycow: :)05:28
theholycowTehUni: Looks like "sudo -s" is equivalent to "sudo su", not "sudo su -"05:28
abattoireddie_: umm, it's jumping your scream?05:28
eddie_is jumpin05:28
xsachalol05:28
Zairescreen Im guessing lol05:28
theholycowabattoir: eddie_'s screen is funky. Probably a refresh rate issue or something.05:29
xsachais it bouncing? :)05:29
eddie_yeah05:29
Zaireyea that could be...however refresh rate normally just causes a total visual failure05:29
eddie_us think im liein05:29
abattoirtheholycow: oh, you guys asked her to modify it in xorg.conf? or reconfigure X ?05:30
theholycowTehUni: Actually, come to think of it, "sudo -s" is probably exactly the same as "sudo bash" (assuming you use bash)05:30
TehUnitheholycow: yup. except that edgy default is dash now :\05:30
Zairecould be possible...either xorg or hardware would deff be my guess05:30
theholycowabattoir: I suggested "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" which seems to be the only console-based X config tool in U05:31
eddie_it flickerin05:31
abattoirtheholycow: you meant xserver-xorg ?05:31
theholycowabattoir: I don't know..I just yanked it off a web page.05:31
eddie_oh my god05:31
TehUniyea05:31
eddie_it never did diz05:31
TehUnixfree86 is old. xserver-xorg is what is used now05:32
theholycowabattoir: I did some googling since eddie_'s computer is probably not in a condition conducive to googling.05:32
abattoireddie_: calm down, open System Settings05:32
Zairethe new one is xorg.conf TehUni05:32
abattoireddie_: Kmenu->System Settings05:32
hollywoodbalright, xchat is blinking... oh... I see eddie said my name again. alright, back to not monitoring existence again.05:32
theholycowgtg05:32
Zaireto check it out TehUni use sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:33
TehUni?05:33
abattoirZaire: sudo sometimes causes problems, it's better to use kdesu for kde apps05:33
eddie_ok05:33
ZaireIve never had a prob using sudo...its all I ever use05:34
TehUnisame. but kdesu is meant for kde apps.05:34
abattoir!sudo05:34
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:34
abattoir!kdesu05:34
ubotuIn KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo05:34
Zairemeh I use what I use if it messes up my privs its fixable05:35
TehUniheh05:35
abattoireddie_: and which version of kubuntu do you use? 6.06(dapper), 6.10(edgy)?05:35
abattoirZaire: yes, you can, but most new users can't05:35
Zairetrue I suppose but like I said never had any troubles yet lol05:36
eddie_diz is new to me05:36
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eddie_i feel like breakin my fuckin comp05:37
knappWhat is the KDE window manager?05:37
hollywoodbeddie_: do it05:38
hollywoodbknapp: kwin05:38
knapptnx holly05:38
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eddie_ok05:38
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eddie_stupid05:38
fon_ZografSecond KDE 4 Developers Snapshot Released =)05:39
abattoireddie_: for the last time, mind the language, you are only going to get yourself kicked if you keep doing that05:39
xsachafon_Zograf: anything visual yet?05:39
xsachaor those versions wont be called developers? :P05:39
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eddie_i dont care05:40
eddie_im mad05:40
eddie_dont u think05:40
Arafangioneddie_: We are all mad.05:40
xsachaim mad at society05:40
hollywoodbits a mad mad mad mad world05:40
Arafangioneddie_: Otherwise, why would we be here?05:40
fon_Zografxsacha: It simply news with http: // kubuntu.com _05:40
Zairedon't matter can't get helt if you get banned05:40
Zairehelp*05:41
xsachahttp://kde.org ?05:41
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InterTwinedLOL THE GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA CLAIMS RESPONSIBILITY FOR LILOS DEATH AND SENDS GOOD WISHES TO ALL HIS GAY INTERNET LOVERS.  HAPPY BIRTHDAY LILO! I HOPE YOUR GETTING ALL THE DICKS YOU CAN HANDLE IN HELL!05:41
eddie_my comp was never doin05:41
InterTwinedLOL THE GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA CLAIMS RESPONSIBILITY FOR LILOS DEATH AND SENDS GOOD WISHES TO ALL HIS GAY INTERNET LOVERS.  HAPPY BIRTHDAY LILO! I HOPE YOUR GETTING ALL THE DICKS YOU CAN HANDLE IN HELL!05:41
InterTwinedLOL THE GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA CLAIMS RESPONSIBILITY FOR LILOS DEATH AND SENDS GOOD WISHES TO ALL HIS GAY INTERNET LOVERS.  HAPPY BIRTHDAY LILO! I HOPE YOUR GETTING ALL THE DICKS YOU CAN HANDLE IN HELL!05:41
eddie_diz before05:41
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abattoir!ops05:41
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist05:41
Zaireoh great spammer05:41
Zaireso since no ones answering in the ubuntu-xgl channel, does anyone in here know why aiglx is making my windows flicker and how I can fix it05:42
hollywoodbZaire: beryl?05:42
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Zaireyep05:42
eddie_amd now im getting upset05:42
hollywoodbZaire: that's beryl's fault, aiglx+compiz is perfectly stable05:42
rootTehUni?05:42
eddie_it a pain in th butt05:42
hollywoodbZaire: same situation here05:43
Zaireah05:43
ZaireI had it working but had to format and now its messed lol05:43
rootYAY I UPGRADED TO EDGY05:43
eddie_same goes here05:43
rootbrb05:44
Zairehmmm wonder if his name was just root or if he was running it and advertising lol05:44
hollywoodbZaire: he was logged in as root05:44
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Zairefigures lol not good to advert05:44
abattoirhmm, no one here, i guess05:45
TehUniroot?05:45
hollywoodbroot.05:45
Zaireyea running root is bad lol05:45
TehUniheh05:45
Zaireonly do so for maintenance that requires it and even then I don't usually05:45
TehUniZaire: we all do it in windows all the time, heh05:46
ZaireI hate windows lol05:46
Zairesrry I just do ...only use it for gaming lol05:46
TehUniheh05:46
TehUnii use for outlook only05:46
TehUniexchange support in linux sucks.05:46
TehUniso i run an XP vm05:46
Zairelol try thunderbird05:47
TehUniZaire: thunderbird doesnt do exchange.05:47
Zairehmmm I use it for everything05:47
jsgotangcoinstall evolution05:47
Zaireexchange in what way though?05:47
Tm_THmm, I saw exhange plugin or something in Kmail.05:47
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TehUnijsgotangco: evolution + exchange connector is too buggy for me05:48
TehUninever worked right05:48
Zaireumm what you mean by exchange?05:48
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TehUniZaire: microsoft exchange. it's an alternative to pop and imap05:48
TehUniit's what my company uses for mail05:48
Zaireoook then I use imap with my server pop Ive heard is not so good05:49
jsgotangcoheh it could have been worse, we use lotus notes05:49
hollywoodbTehUni: howsabout sylpheed-claws?05:49
TehUnieh?05:49
ZaireI don't think surgemail uses ms exchange does it?05:49
hollywoodbTehUni: its the email client that bites!05:50
TehUniheh05:50
TehUninever heard of it05:50
Zaireits an e-mail server05:50
hollywoodbTehUni: http://www.omesc.com/modules/main_module/05:51
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Erich-KDoes anyone know where I can get user images for the login screen?05:53
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Zaireah yes makes sense that thunderbird wouldn't use ms exchange since thunderbird is opensource lol05:53
TehUniprob with the exchange connector is that it uses owa (afiak) so it doesnt pick up some of the functionality of full blown exchange05:54
TehUnimost annoying is that it doesnt get callendar categories05:54
Zaireyou know one of the biggest things that annoys me is windows has adware embedded in it....when I was still using a software firewall this one windows task kept bugging me for net access and once it was allowed all of a sudden ad popups on my desktop with no browser open05:56
Zairels05:56
Zairecrap wrong window lol05:57
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xsachaZaire: most likely that file was infected :P05:58
xsachamost common way i think is to have your malicious file masquerade as a window system file05:59
Zairenot likely I had the whole works of virus protection before connected to the net and that was off fresh install05:59
jsgotangcowindows has adware? hahaha dude no vendor would want to do that05:59
jsgotangcothe backlash would be too great05:59
xsachadell and hp stick adware in their packaged boxes though05:59
jsgotangcotrue06:00
jsgotangcobut that's already an OEM thing no?06:00
Zairewell my anti virus protection in windows is set to parranoid and I use avast which is very sensitive06:00
xsachameh antivirus is a joke06:00
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Zairenot avast i'll tell ya if theres a cookie loading from a browser infected it detects it rightaway06:00
hollywoodbavast pretty solid, I use that as well on the partition I keep around for univ software06:01
xsachamight help an average person who doesn't use computers much, but most of the time only catches stuff you yourself would pick up -- hogs resources doing so06:01
Zaireummm we aren't talking about norton lol06:01
xsachanorton is an extreme case :P06:01
Zairenorton blows the big one lol06:01
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beefsprocketanyone know where kde stores it's directives for a user's desktop resolution?06:01
jsgotangcoits been years since I used antivirus06:01
xsachame too06:02
Zairewell thats the awsome thing about linux lol06:02
hollywoodbsome distros are starting to install either AVG, F-Prot or ClamAV by default now06:02
hollywoodbbetter safe than sorry i guess06:02
Zairebeefsprocket that would be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:02
Zaireand true safe is good06:03
jsgotangcohollywood: what linux does have though are trojans, but mostly on the server side06:03
jsgotangcobut they are quite sparse06:03
beefsprocketZaire: hmm, don't think so06:03
Zaireit is06:03
beefsprocketZaire: I know what you mean, but this is different06:03
beefsprocketZaire: i have a user set to 1600x1024 accidentally, that res isn't in xorg.conf06:04
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Zaireif you want it via GUI use k menu system settings and display06:04
xsachanever know.. someone evil could get svn write for some important program and secretly insert a trojan that infects everyone with that version ^^06:04
beefsprocketthat's the problem, entire display is garbled such that I can't get it to work06:04
beefsprockethave to edit it through tty106:04
hollywoodbbeefsprocket: can you get a term open?06:04
beefsprockettty106:04
jsgotangcoxsacha: that too...but that involves weak passwords in the revision system06:04
Zaireah might want kdesu nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:05
xsachacould just be a trusted person06:05
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beefsprocketZaire: the per user setting isn't there, that file is global xorg settings06:05
arunkaleHey, people06:05
Zairedunno then but sounds messed lol06:05
arunkaleI successfully upgraded from Dapper to Edgy, but now my Firefox is crashing06:05
beefsprocketyeah, it is06:05
hollywoodbbeefsprocket: try: alt+F2 (the run dialog), then type: xrandr -s 1024x768 and hit [enter]  for whatever resolution you want06:06
jsgotangcoxsacha: well svn/cvs access involves a web of trust, i have access to some for instance...06:06
jsgotangcoyou dont just grant access for any contribution06:06
sevenanyone know how to lock on in differen languages06:06
xsachabut one day you could feel particularly evil...06:06
enyawixany one building the missing app from source?06:07
jsgotangcoxsacha: fortunately i dont ;)06:07
beefsprockethollywoodb: you are genius06:07
enyawixi want to share work06:07
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xsachaor someone who packages a well-known distro like ubuntu.. could slip something in ;)06:07
enyawixso we save time06:07
jsgotangcoxsacha: there will be hell to pay06:07
hollywoodbbeefsprocket: not quite, I actually have no idea where the user's res settings are ;)06:07
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beefsprocketyes, well, more than one way to apprach these things06:07
beefsprockets/apprach/approach06:08
Zaireso anyone know a really good book for web desing...prefferebly in the O'Reilly series lol06:08
enyawixxsacha i am looking for a fix for common people06:08
enyawixpackaging sounds hard06:09
hollywoodbbeefsprocket: I have used xrandr quite a bit though in a pinch06:09
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sevenanyone know how to lock on in differen languages06:10
hollywoodbbeefsprocket: you can actually run xrandr from tty1 and tell it to affect the X server on tty7 with more commandline options, but I forget the exact syntax06:10
beefsprocketi was about to ask that, likely just specify the display ?06:10
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Zairehmmm almost looks like someone hacked op privs on #ubuntu.....privs were removed06:10
Tm_T?06:11
hollywoodbbeefsprocket: I believe so06:11
hollywoodbbeefsprocket: ":0" I think is how it goes06:11
Tm_Top privs?06:11
beefsprocketthanks, /me makes mental note06:11
Zaireso since no ones answering in the ubuntu-xgl channel, does anyone in here know why aiglx is making my windows flicker and how I can fix it06:11
hollywoodbbeefsprocket: xrandr --help if need be06:11
Zaireah damn it didn't copy the text06:11
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xsachaZaire: they only put on their +o when needed.. then they take it off06:12
Zairethats what it says in the ubuntu channel lol06:12
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beefsprocketZaire: ;)06:12
Zaireah06:12
ZaireI figured it could be either or06:13
Tm_TZaire: I see06:13
xsachaas for your aiglx problem, best place is #beryl but i will suggest killall emerald && emerald06:13
xsachayou probably have 2 emeralds runnings06:13
Zairecool thanks beefsprocket lol06:13
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Tm_TZaire: Something like this?06:14
beefsprocketit's old I just realized06:14
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Zaireah06:14
Zaireanyone do that or certain ppl?06:14
Tm_TOnly those who has rights.06:14
Zairejust curious lol06:14
ZaireI hate spammers06:14
xsachaZaire: /msg chanserv access #kubuntu list06:15
Tm_TThese "young" ircnets are funny with their weird functionalities.06:15
Zairecool ...but /msg not needed lol06:15
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Zairejust need /chanserv06:16
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xsachadepends what irc client Zaire06:16
ZaireI suppose true06:16
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Zairesafer to use one that can do that though incase for password stuff06:16
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xsachawell /chanserv is just an alias to /msg chanserv, but yeah i see your point with typos06:17
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Zairemind you Im still rusty with irc... been a while since Ive done anything in depth with it06:17
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josh__why cant i upload things in kopete06:29
josh__when i send webcam or send files its super slow06:30
josh__but ONLY in kopete06:30
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duanehey did anyone get an adept updater notification that it wanted to remove nvidia-glx?06:35
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pkarticleI thought it installed a newer version... I didn't look closely enough at mine before I said yes06:36
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lessnickis it possible to map a uid on a filesystem to a different uid? without actually doing a chmod on all the files?06:36
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Not_a_Ninjahey... is anybody here answering questions at the moment?06:38
Not_a_NinjaI see...06:39
pkarticlewell i am but i have a very limited knowledge...06:39
lessnickNot_a_Ninja: someone is always around to answer questions. but only if they know the answer.06:39
lessnickyou just ask and home for the best06:39
XVampireXHey06:39
XVampireXI messed up my konqueror start page06:39
XVampireXI mean, saved profile which loads different websites06:40
XVampireXI need the one it opens up by default06:40
Not_a_Ninjasee.... uh... ever since I upgraded to 6.10, the 686 kernels don't show up in Grub anymore06:41
XVampireXNot_a_Ninja: It's -generic06:42
XVampireXnot 68606:42
Not_a_NinjaXVampireX, what's -generic ?06:42
XVampireXSomeone help me with konqueror start page :P06:42
XVampireX-generic kernel06:42
beefsprocketXVampireX: set it to about:konqueror06:42
XVampireXbeefsprocket: thanks :D06:42
beefsprocketnp06:43
Not_a_Ninjaso... the one that says "Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.17-10-generic" is actually the 686 one?06:43
XVampireXYes06:43
Not_a_Ninjait seems like that would have been documented somewhere ... that and the way hard drives are listed now06:43
Not_a_Ninjathanks, XVampireX06:44
XVampireXNot_a_Ninja: no problems06:44
Not_a_NinjaXVampireX, what do you need in Konqueror?  are you wanting to restore the profile settings you had before?06:45
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linuxwizardhello has anyone installed the patch for kopete because of the connection issue with icq on dapper06:49
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Not_a_Ninjalinuxwizard ... I'm sorry, I don't use Kopete much, and I've never used ICQ06:52
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arunkaleok firefox 2 keeps crashing06:54
arunkaleanyone else facing the same problem06:54
XVampireXNot_a_Ninja: Nevermind, beefsprocket helped me06:55
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duaneok i am PISSED06:55
duaneadept updater uninstalled nvidia-glx for some reason06:55
duanei dont know why06:55
Not_a_NinjaXVampireX, that's cool... I don't know that much about Konqueror anyway06:56
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duaneand when I do apt-get install nvidia-glx06:56
duanei get:06:56
duaneThe following packages have unmet dependencies:06:56
duane  nvidia-glx: Depends: nvidia-kernel-1.0.962506:56
duaneE: Broken packages06:56
duanewtf man06:56
XVampireXNot_a_Ninja: You should start using it, it's faster than Firefox06:56
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Not_a_NinjaXVampireX, I use it a lot ...  but Firefox handles pages designed with MSIE's nonsense in mind (most pages)06:57
Not_a_Ninja....better06:57
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duaneany help?06:57
newmanHI06:57
newmanHOLA06:57
newmanALGUIEN HABLA ESPAOL06:58
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cpk1!es | newman06:58
ubotunewman: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:58
newmanGRACIAS06:58
newmanCOMO ME METO AHI06:58
arunkaleerr why can i not view flash files in opera06:58
newmanDALE PUES06:59
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RobNyc_anyone here using Beryl ?06:59
Not_a_Ninjaduane, what happens when you try "apt-get install -f"?07:00
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notechRobNyc_: what about it?07:00
momalwhats the name of that app that can dock at the bottom of the screen and have application icons in it.. similar to the mac os style bar at the bottom07:00
RobNyc_im trying to add it to startup menu notech07:00
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notechnot sure that can be done07:01
Not_a_Ninjamomal, are you talking about something other than the panel?07:01
RobNyc_so how can i start it notech ?07:01
momalhmm im pretty sure i'll go find a screen shot where i saw it on :p07:02
notechopen a terminal and run beryl-manager, you can start it from it from there07:02
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notechheh, that sentance was bad grammar07:02
RobNyc_notech, u have a ati card by any chance07:02
notechno, nvidia07:03
momalRobNyc: you can come in #beryl if you need help with it ^_-07:03
RobNyc_ty07:04
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arunkalewhy does firefox keep crashing07:04
arunkalegah07:04
arunkale!flashplugin07:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about flashplugin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:04
arunkale!flash07:04
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats07:04
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neosa-chrisSup Kubuntu ppl07:08
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chris_how can I format a drive to the ext3 format?07:08
neosa-chrisWho else here has been using Kubuntu since its very first alpha?07:08
neosa-chrislol07:08
neosa-chrisstupid to be proud of... but ya07:08
cpk1chris_: qtparted would be easiest if it works for you07:09
chris_cpk1, naw, I would only use it once07:09
chris_cpk1, is there a command line for simple formatting tasks?07:10
neosa-chrisWhy would you want to format it with ext3?07:10
chris_well, isn't that the standard linux format?\07:10
chris_basically i have a second drive i want to dump data on07:10
neosa-chriseh... it shouldn't be07:10
neosa-chrisI use ReiserFS07:10
neosa-chrisMuch faster with smaller files.. then the same with larger ones.. so... it is just faster07:11
neosa-chrislol07:11
chris_ReiserFS? I hear the has some issues with some programs07:11
neosa-chrisand pleanty reliable... no probs for hte past couple years07:11
neosa-chrisNaw07:11
chris_and isn't it only faster for like 100,000+ files?07:11
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firebird619I have cable Internet and two computers. When I switch the Ethernet cable over to give Kubuntu access to cable Internet, I have to restart the PC for it to work. Is there an easier way to do this, is there something to reset without restarting the PC?07:11
neosa-chrisWell you can go with ext3 if you want.. no big deal07:11
neosa-chrissudo apt-get install gparted07:11
neosa-chrisuse that07:12
chris_want to avoid using that is i can help it07:12
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Arafangionfirebird619: sudo invoke-rc.d networking restart07:12
neosa-chrissudo apt-get install parted07:12
neosa-chrislol!07:12
neosa-chrisparted is non-graphical07:12
chris_nothign wrong with it....i just will only use it once07:12
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firebird619Arafangion: Great, Thank you.07:12
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Arafangionfirebird619: If that doesn't work, look for an ifup/ifdown script or something in /etc/init.d or /etc/rc.d or wherever :)07:13
Arafangionfirebird619: I'm assuming sysvinit, though - who knows what etch does.07:14
neosa-chrisChris_: whats your status?07:14
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Linux_Galoreidentify chatmad3307:15
neosa-chrisare you downloading/ installing parted? or......07:15
chris_i'm trying to use fdisk07:15
neosa-chrisEWW07:15
neosa-chrisno07:15
neosa-chriscfdisk07:15
neosa-chrismuch better07:15
neosa-chrislol!07:15
neosa-chrisseriously... eons better then fdisk07:15
firebird619Arafangion: Ok, Thanks.  Also, I was thinking of trying the KDE 4 2nd Development Snapshot. According to http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.2.php it just says to install kde4base-dev. Is that all that needs to be installed?07:15
chris_in terms of functionality?07:15
chris_or just how nice the ascii art is?07:15
neosa-chrisSpeed of use..07:16
Arafangionfirebird619: Generally, if you're smart enough to use development snapshots and other untested programs, you're smart enough to determine how to figure out things, and how to use mailing lists, etc  :)07:16
neosa-chrisI can use that in about 15 seconds to do something that'd normally take me a min or two in fdisk..07:16
neosa-chrisbut i just really perfer to see something..07:16
firebird619Arafangion: :-) Thanks.07:16
chris_I've been using gentoo, and it taught me fdisk first. both are cool07:17
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neosa-chrisLOL i used gentoo too07:17
neosa-chrismy first year of linux07:17
neosa-chrisentire year07:17
chris_same07:17
neosa-chrisYou learn a ton in gentoo07:17
chris_yeah, that's why i did it07:17
neosa-chrisbut ubuntu "just works" so.. i switched07:17
chris_same :)07:18
neosa-chris:-D07:18
Not_a_NinjaI used plain old Debian before I started using Ubuntu07:18
neosa-chrisI do miss emerge -va anythingggggg07:18
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neosa-chrishah i toyed with that for all of a day..07:18
neosa-chrisbefore my friend was like07:18
neosa-chrisscrew that dude.. go to ubuntu again.. they made massive improvements07:18
chris_unless you do emerge kdebase kdesomething kde this kde that.07:18
neosa-chris(that was me going from hoary to breezy)07:18
neosa-chrishaha07:19
Not_a_NinjaI liked Debian a lot, but I never did figure out how to set up sound or 3D graphics ... I was told that Ubuntu is like Debian, but easier to set up and use07:20
Not_a_Ninjaah, good times07:20
neosa-chrishaha07:21
neosa-chrisubuntu is based on a few of the debian idea's07:21
neosa-chrisso.. your good07:21
neosa-chris:-)07:21
chris_the only thing I never got working on ANY linux distro, ever, was sound, it always only half worked07:21
neosa-chrisreally... strange..07:21
neosa-chrisi've never had big problems07:21
knappI'm getting some static when I play music or video files, what can I do to eliminate this?07:21
neosa-chrisas long as you use alsa sound07:21
chris_and I have an intel HD....it's supposed to be well supported07:22
neosa-chrisKDE gives you some ARTS that can screw with ur sound sometimes... then again sometimes help07:22
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chris_yes, always used alsa07:22
neosa-chrisrun in a terminal07:22
neosa-chrisalsamixer07:22
neosa-chrisif that doesn't work07:22
neosa-christhen kmix07:22
chris_lol, don't think I've tried that about 100000 times?07:22
neosa-chrisand bring your PCM down a little bit07:22
neosa-chrisand turn everything else up07:22
neosa-chrishehe07:23
neosa-chrisI miss my gentoo box07:23
neosa-chris(looks to right)07:23
neosa-chrisnevermind07:23
neosa-chrisIt no longer boots up properly hehe... half hte thigns dotn' mount... i deleted drivers..07:23
chris_I either get static with music, or the sound is REALLY quiet07:23
neosa-chrisjust to f--k with gentoo on my last day using it..07:23
neosa-chrisoh hellz...07:23
neosa-chriswho's your card manufacturer07:24
neosa-chrislspci07:24
chris_it's like turning up crappy speakers really high, but they are not loud at all, but still grappy sound07:24
chris_intel07:24
chris_Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01)07:24
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arunkaleumm what's the command to move a file from one directory to the other07:25
Arafangionarunkale: mv07:25
neosa-chriscp i think07:25
neosa-chrismv07:25
neosa-chrissh-t07:25
neosa-chrissry07:25
chris_lol07:25
Arafangionneosa-chris: Are you incapable of using ANY vowels?07:26
arunkalehaha what's the syntax07:26
Not_a_Ninjamv = move ; cp = copy (if it wasn't obvious)07:26
Arafangionarunkale: Guess!!!07:26
arunkalecp path newpath?07:26
Arafangionarunkale: Or see man mv07:26
neosa-chrislol07:26
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neosa-chriswelcome wheatie07:27
neosa-chris^_^07:27
wheatiehello.07:27
Not_a_Ninjamv something somewhere07:27
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arunkaleman i dont know why firefox keeps crashing07:31
neosa-chrisHAH07:31
neosa-chrisYou trying to access anyyything iwth a flash video on it?07:31
neosa-chriseven a flash advertisement can crash it07:31
arunkaleyeah07:31
arunkalewhy's that07:31
neosa-chrishehe07:31
arunkaleso i cant view flash at all?07:32
neosa-chrish/o i'll find you a wiki (my fav wiki)07:32
neosa-chrishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats07:32
arunkale?07:32
neosa-chrisuse that wiki07:32
arunkalewhat am i supposed to see over there07:32
neosa-chrisand install flash the right way..07:32
arunkalei've already seen that07:32
neosa-chriswell... then have you updated Firefox lately?07:33
arunkalewell, i just upgraded to edgy last night07:33
arunkaleand it installed firefox 207:33
arunkaleand now it keeps crashing07:33
Not_a_Ninjaarunkale ...it might be esd07:33
neosa-chrissudo apt-get update07:33
neosa-chrissudo apt-get upgrade07:33
neosa-chrissudo apt-get dist-upgrade ** ignore the one before it07:33
arunkaleumm i've already done the dist-upgrade, right?07:34
Not_a_Ninjawhen Firefox starts a Flash thingy, it seems to start an instance of esd, which, for whatever reason, locks up the browser07:34
arunkalei'm on edgy right now07:34
neosa-chrisnaw its just.. a silly little thing07:34
neosa-chrisjust do it newayz07:34
Not_a_NinjaI don't know the solution to this... I've just seen that problem a lot07:34
neosa-chrisi've been running Edgy since alpha 1.. u gotta do that every once in a while07:34
neosa-chrislol07:34
neosa-chrisi do that instead of upgrade now... just dist-upgrade07:34
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arunkaleand that'll fix my fox?07:36
Arafangionarunkale: Personally, I prefer Konqueror, or Opera907:36
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arunkalei cant view flash files in opera07:37
neosa-chriseh i like firefox. I've been a fan back when they didn't even come out with beta hehe07:37
arunkalejust like firefox07:37
arunkaleok neosa-chris, i'll try the dist-upgrade07:37
neosa-chrisHey if you want to just... use flash with something..07:38
Arafangionarunkale: Why not?07:38
arunkaleArafangion: you tell me07:38
arunkaleheh07:38
momalhmm for some reason when i right click on a panel and go configure... in the list it only has main panel and external taskbar but i have main panel and another panel that isn't just a external task bar how can i configure that panel :S07:38
neosa-chrissudo apt-get install (thinks)07:38
Arafangionarunkale: Did you install it for Opera?07:38
neosa-chrisGood luck arunkale07:38
arunkalei installed the generic flashplugin-nonfree07:38
arunkaleit was fine before i upgraded to edgy07:38
Arafangionarunkale: Not good enough.07:39
arunkaleArafangion: it was good enough for dapper07:39
neosa-chrisits been good enough for my system..07:39
neosa-chrisWhats better?07:39
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neosa-chrisepiphany07:39
Arafangionarunkale: Did you visit a website that used flash, and get it to download you a version?07:39
neosa-chrissudo apt-get install epiphany07:39
neosa-christhat is a web browser that will let u watch Flash vids07:40
neosa-chrisalmost without a doubt in my mind07:40
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arunkaleis that as good as firefox07:40
neosa-chrishell no07:40
arunkalehaa07:40
neosa-chrisi only use it for flash vids07:40
neosa-chrislol07:40
neosa-chriswhen firefox is being retarded..07:40
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neosa-chrisso i wait for updates.. and just use epiphany07:40
momalfirefox + the flash 9 beta works alright I hanv't had a prob with it07:40
momalHelp... for some reason when i right click on a panel and go configure... in the list it only has main panel and external taskbar but i have main panel and another panel that isn't just a external task bar how can i configure that panel :S07:41
arunkalemomal, i downloaded the flash 9 beta07:41
arunkalehow the hell do i move that file to /usr/lib/<firefox>/plugins07:41
arunkaleit doesn't let me do it07:41
arunkaleaccess denied07:41
momalsudo ?07:41
arunkaleexactly what command07:41
HymnToLife!sudo | arunkale07:41
ubotuarunkale: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.07:41
neosa-chrissudo apt-get install epiphany07:42
arunkaleHymnToLife: i know what sudo is07:42
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neosa-chrisSuper User Do07:42
neosa-chrislol07:42
HymnToLifeArafangion, sudo mv /path/to/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins07:42
momalarunkale: sudo cp oldfile tonewfile07:42
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ArafangionHow do I tell apt to NEVER upgrade a particular package?07:43
neosa-chrisuh...07:44
HymnToLifesynapptic has a "Lock" option07:44
neosa-chrisJust... use adept07:44
neosa-chrislol07:44
arunkaleok i moved the file07:44
arunkaleit still crashes07:44
arunkalei'm tired of this :(07:44
arunkalei'm regretting upgrading to edgy07:44
neosa-chrisnoo noooo07:44
neosa-chrisdon'tttttt07:44
neosa-chrislol07:45
neosa-chrisI love edgy07:45
neosa-chrisDid you say epiphany crashed?07:45
arunkaleso how do i fix this firefox thing07:45
neosa-chrisoh..07:45
neosa-chrisby waiting till they fix it in development07:45
neosa-chrislol!07:45
arunkalei cant even use flash in opera07:45
duanearunkale: what's wrong again?07:45
duanei have flash beta 9 running in opera07:45
neosa-chrissudo apt-get install epiphany07:45
neosa-chrisits a really tiny web-browser07:45
neosa-christook me 12 seconds to download and install on my sys07:45
duaneepiphany is horrible07:46
duanearunkale: follow this tutorial: http://www.wikitut.org/index.php?title=How_to_Install_the_Flash_9_Plugin_on_Linux07:46
duaneworked perfectly for me07:46
neosa-chrisExactly07:46
neosa-chrisFor you07:46
neosa-chrislol07:46
duaneafter you do that just restart opera07:46
ArafangionOh forget it.07:46
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neosa-chrisEpiphany may suck as a web browser.. but it works fine with flash vids07:46
neosa-chriswhoa its almost 2 am..07:46
neosa-chrisI'm gonna head out.. good luck everyone..07:47
neosa-chrisHope everythin works out for ya07:47
neosa-chriswww.neosa.tk if ya need me07:47
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arunkaleok trying flash player 9 on opera07:47
arunkalethanks neosa-chris07:48
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lostinspaceLOL THE GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA CLAIMS RESPONSIBILITY FOR LILOS DEATH AND SENDS GOOD WISHES TO ALL HIS GAY INTERNET LOVERS.  HAPPY BIRTHDAY LILO! I HOPE YOUR GETTING ALL THE DICKS YOU CAN HANDLE IN HELL!07:48
lostinspaceLOL THE GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA CLAIMS RESPONSIBILITY FOR LILOS DEATH AND SENDS GOOD WISHES TO ALL HIS GAY INTERNET LOVERS.  HAPPY BIRTHDAY LILO! I HOPE YOUR GETTING ALL THE DICKS YOU CAN HANDLE IN HELL!07:48
lostinspaceLOL THE GAY NIGGER ASSOCIATION OF AMERICA CLAIMS RESPONSIBILITY FOR LILOS DEATH AND SENDS GOOD WISHES TO ALL HIS GAY INTERNET LOVERS.  HAPPY BIRTHDAY LILO! I HOPE YOUR GETTING ALL THE DICKS YOU CAN HANDLE IN HELL!07:48
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Hikaru79.....07:48
momalok07:48
Hikaru79That was the most tasteless spam I've ever seen in my life.07:48
HymnToLife!ops07:48
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist07:48
arunkaleumm duane, i copied the file to the plugins folder in usr/lib/opera/07:48
arunkaleno luck07:49
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arunkalei'll check out that page now07:49
HymnToLifeMez, thanks :)07:49
momallostinspace: I don't get it LOL07:49
momalI wonder how many channels he did that in lol07:49
duanearunkale: make sure you remove the file you put in usr/lib/opera07:49
Arafangionmomal: I would stop now.07:49
momal?07:50
MezHymnToLife, they;ve been k-lined too now07:50
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ArafangionMez: With klines, is that per server, or network wide, because I suspect I'm blocked on some servers. (Obviously not all)07:51
MezArafangion, you;ll have to ask an IRCop07:51
Mezhttp://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp07:51
ArafangionMez: Next time I have a connection trouble, I'll send them an email, thanks.07:52
arunkaleduane: how do i delete a file from the command line07:52
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arunkale?07:52
ArafangionMez: Getting Help doesn't give out any email addys :(07:53
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arunkaleis sudo delete a command07:54
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Arafangionarunkale: Yes.07:55
arunkaleok thanks07:55
Arafangionarunkale: sudo will execute the program "delete".07:55
Arafangionarunkale: Assuming the actual program exists.07:55
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arunkalehow do i delete a file from the command line07:56
HymnToLiferm07:56
arunkaleok thanks07:56
arunkale:)07:56
Arafangionarunkale: What are you deleting?07:56
arunkalelibflashplayer.so from the opera folder07:56
TheWheati have attached a usb wireless adapter but it doesnt show up in "ifconfig" only "iwconfig". is it necessary to show up in ifconfig for the adapter to work?07:56
momalHelp... for some reason when i right click on a panel and go configure... in the list it only has main panel and external taskbar but i have main panel and another panel that isn't just a external task bar how can i configure that panel :S07:57
arunkalegoddammit why cant i view flash files07:57
duanedid you read dthe website?07:57
duanethat i pasted?07:58
arunkaleduane: yeah07:58
arunkalei followed the commands07:58
duanedid you restart opera?07:58
arunkalei tried opening a site with flash in both firefox and opera07:58
arunkaleand both of them crashed07:58
arunkaleduane: actually07:59
arunkaleopera doesnt crash07:59
momaltry opening firefox or opera from konsole then see what the output is07:59
RoC-MMUh07:59
arunkalebut it just shows the flash movies for a split second07:59
RoC-MMthat is a known bug07:59
wheatiearunkale, your using the beta9 version of flash/.07:59
RoC-MMlook on the site07:59
arunkaleand then it's blank again07:59
RoC-MMyou change a thing in /usr/bin/firefox script07:59
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arunkale?08:00
eilker i installed mysql within lamp server,but no gui tool, could you suggest me one pls ?08:00
eilker!mysql08:00
ubotulamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.08:00
arunkaleok i give up08:01
xsachame too08:01
eilkeranyone uses mysql??08:02
wheatietry kmysqladmin08:03
eilkerthanx08:03
wheatienp08:03
Arafangionwheatie: How the heck did you know what answer he wanted?08:05
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wheatiehe had previously asked for a gui frontend for mysqld, i simply provided one of a number of solutions / applications which fit the criteria08:06
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pc22 whats with edgy? whenever i reboot i have to fix gateway?08:08
newmanvergaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa08:08
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wheatiepc22, have you re-ran the network config tool after booting into kde?08:09
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pc22yaeh i do that eveytime i start the comp08:10
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pc22so i will  have internet08:10
wheatieie: K ----> system settings ---> Network Settings.08:11
charlie5hello ... and help :/ ... my grub bootloader seems corrupt and won't load ... i'm using the kubuntu install cd OS at the moment ... sorry, but can anyone help me to re-install grub ... or lilo perhaps ?08:11
wheatiepc22, when you reboot and you boot into kde, whats the output of route -n , and whats your "eth0" entry in /etc/network/interfaces ( in konsole )08:12
pc22yeah and it wont help, i have to route add in console for that to work08:12
pc22its working now no problem but then when i restart comp, i must do it again and again08:13
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wheatieright.08:13
pc22like network connection is not automatic08:13
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eilkeri have very bad password problem....in login screen, also in adept , system doesnt accept my password...08:15
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eilkeri have very bad password problem....in login screen, also in adept , system doesnt accept my password...i also have xauth problem, i also have xine problem, many problems..is there any system repair tool in kubuntu ??08:16
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eilker!xauth08:17
ubotuxauth: X authentication utility. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 21 kB, installed size 80 kB08:17
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eilker!sources.list08:32
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:32
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eilkeri lost my sources.list file how can i have it again?08:36
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Arafangioneilker: How'd you manage to loose it?08:36
eilkerArafangion: i had many problems, and i deleted and copied ubuntu one's by mistake08:38
momalis it possible to have some panels transparent and others not transparent?08:38
eilkerArafangion: i only wanna see a default sources.list file08:39
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Arafangionmomal: Are you running the latest version of kubuntu?08:41
momalyup edgy08:41
Arafangionmomal: Could you cut and paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file and put it onto rafb.net/paste for eilker ?08:42
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momalmine aren't default generated with source o matic then just changed dapper to edgy... http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/23924608:43
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eilkerthank you very much08:44
MilhousePunkRockGood morning world!08:45
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eilkermy source list ok then, if so why adept cant find "kmysql"08:46
MilhousePunkRockI recently upgraded from Dapper to Edgy... Well, not recently, I up'ed to the Beta back then and slowly made my way up to the stable release...08:47
MilhousePunkRockBut suspending/hibernating my laptop still does not work...08:47
MilhousePunkRockFor instance I still have KPowersave (which I installed myself on Dapper) instead of the Guidance Power Manager08:48
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MilhousePunkRockAbout the sleep states, I wonder what old config files or scripts could still be there that keep it from working like it was promised for Edgy?!!??!08:49
knappI'm getting some static when I play music or video files, what can I do to eliminate this?08:49
MilhousePunkRockTo ask an easy question: How do I launch Guidance?08:50
MilhousePunkRockAnother easy question: Where did the settings for KMilo go (which I also already used on Dapper)08:50
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ArafangionMilhousePunkRock: As a convention, all your personal settings are stored in ~08:53
ArafangionMilhousePunkRock: As "dot" files, which (also as a convention) are "hidden"08:53
MilhousePunkRockArafangion: Is that for KMilo? I meant the GUI setting tool for it, which used to be in Kcontrol08:54
ArafangionMilhousePunkRock: Ahh, adding "tool" changes the question entirely ;)08:54
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MilhousePunkRockOr maybe an even better question: Is there a way to change Kcontrol from the "stripped down" Kubuntu version to the KDE default?08:58
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dude_need some help09:32
dude_i installed clamav09:32
dude_but i can't find it09:32
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eilker!debconf09:34
ubotudebconf is a configuration management system. All packages that support debconf are configured when they are being installed. If you want to change a configuration option later, you can do so using dpkg-reconfigure09:34
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chahibiHello09:40
chahibiHow is Kubuntu 6.10 ?09:41
eilker!sudoers >eilker09:41
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:41
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MilhousePunkRockCan some Laptop user check wether he has any kind of power settings in KControl?09:47
Arafangiondude_: It's probably "clamav".09:48
Arafangiondude_: See if you can find any documentation using "man clamav" or in /usr/local/share/doc09:48
LynoureMilhousePunkRock: in edgy or dapper?09:48
ArafangionOr /usr/share/doc09:48
MilhousePunkRockLynoure: Edgy09:48
MilhousePunkRockPreferrably a "non-clean" Edgy, like mine, upgraded from Dapper...09:49
LynoureMilhousePunkRock: cannot help you then, sorry09:49
eilkerArafangion: this is my sudoers file http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30257/   , i have a user as eilker, but eilker is not in sudoers file, where should i add eilker user and eilker doesnt have root rights09:51
Arafangioneilker: You should add yourself to the admin group.09:52
Arafangioneilker: Run groups to see what groups you are in, then add to them using usermod -g09:52
Arafangioneilker: See man groups, and man usermod respectively.09:52
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noelvisagiehello09:53
noelvisagieanybody09:54
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eilkerArafangion: eilker user is in eilker group, so what will be the command ? sorry newbie here09:54
noelvisagie? how do i install visio in kubuntu?09:55
Arafangioneilker: usermod -g eilker -G admin eilker09:55
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Arafangionnoelvisagie: Put the CD in, run the setup application, and select the KUbuntu version.09:56
Arafangionnoelvisagie: That's a joke, btw.09:56
noelvisagieis it possible though?09:56
Arafangionnoelvisagie: Which version?09:57
eilkerArafangion: i gave the command, but sudoers file is still same, is it normal ?09:57
Arafangionnoelvisagie: Visio apparently works at the "silver" level.09:57
noelvisagievisio 200309:58
Arafangioneilker: The last line in the sudoer's file indicates that everybody in the admin group has sudo access.09:58
Arafangionnoelvisagie: Then, it's pretty much impossible.09:58
noelvisagiesh.....09:58
noelvisagie:)09:58
Arafangionnoelvisagie: You could purchase VMware, and install it in there, or spend some time with Qemu, installing kqemu, but qemu is definetly not as easy as vmware.09:59
eilkerArafangion: so should i add "%eilker ALL=(ALL) ALL" to the last line of sudoers file ?09:59
Arafangioneilker: No, but you may have to log out then log back in again to "realise" your newfound membership in the admin group.09:59
noelvisagiethanks :-)10:00
eilkerArafangion: ok i am reboot the computer10:00
Arafangionnoelvisagie: On the other hand, you could try the Demo of ..10:00
Arafangioneilker: NO10:00
Arafangioneilker: Just log out, and log back in.10:00
dude_guys, what can you say about gNewSense?10:00
eilkerArafangion: ok sir10:01
Arafangioneilker: You only have to reboot if you upgrade the kernel, or need to physically remove/add/replace some critical hardware, such as a CPU.10:01
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MilhousePunkRockArafangion: Does that mean that for example hard drives are "hot pluggable" in Linux?10:03
eilkerarafangion: now adept accepts my password:) thanx, will the system accept in kde logging screen too ?10:04
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ArafangionMilhousePunkRock: Some are.10:04
ArafangionMilhousePunkRock: However, I would normally suggest that HDD's are critical.10:04
MilhousePunkRockeilker: You mean logging in with the user that is now able to sudo?10:04
MilhousePunkRockArafangion: I would generally not swap any hardware INSIDE the pc case while it's runnin...10:05
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xsachalol10:05
ArafangionMilhousePunkRock: Probably a better suggestion for typical desktop systems. ;)10:05
xsachacurious: what happens if the clock battery pops out while the computer is running?10:05
xsachaand then you put it back in10:05
eilkerMilhousePunkRock: yes, because i always get console before kde logging screen, i write startx, it says , xauth: x user not authorized to run x server10:06
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MilhousePunkRockxsacha: Not much, I guess, since that is only used while the machine is powered down, isnt it?10:06
xsachamm not sure, i think it has a user while powered up too10:06
xsachawould it still reset bios settings if left out for 10 secs?10:06
xsachause*10:06
MilhousePunkRockeilker: Try "sudo startx" or even better, add kdm to your init.d (or whatever file does the equivalent on Kubuntu)10:07
nebiplease , my kubuntu edgy not workinkg in ipw 3945, but in dapper any problem,10:07
MilhousePunkRockxsacha: Go ahead and try it, and report about it once you have everthing set back to normal... ;-)10:07
Arafangionxsacha: I'm fairly certain you can take the BIOS (Actually, the CMOS) out while the computer is still running.10:07
eilker!kdm > eilker10:07
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xsachahmm you try first10:08
eilker!init.d > eilker10:08
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about init.d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:08
MilhousePunkRockxsacha: Can't, it's a laptop10:08
MilhousePunkRock!upstart10:08
ubotuUpstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/10:08
xsachajust get out a screwdriver.. :)10:08
nebiplease , my kubuntu edgy not workinkg in ipw 3945, but in dapper any problem,10:08
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MilhousePunkRockDoes anybody know if upstart is already working?10:09
MilhousePunkRock!init10:10
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions  -  To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d  -  To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local  -  See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy  -  Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto10:10
nebiplease , my kubuntu edgy not workinkg in ipw 3945, but in dapper any problem, i need a solucion please10:10
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MilhousePunkRock!init > eilker10:10
eilkerMilhousePunkRock: there is kdm file in init.d, i already checked10:11
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eilkercould anyone make a pastebin his/her sudoers files pls ? my username is still not in sudoers file...10:19
fdovingeilker: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30219/10:20
fdovingthat's without comments.10:20
fdovingmake sure you're in the admin group.10:21
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eilkerfdoving: thanx, this is mine, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30257/  i have a user as eilker, shoulnt eilker user be in sudoers file ?10:22
Arafangioneilker: Fine, if you want, copy the line that has root in it, and duplicate it, replacing "root" with "eilker", but it's  DUMB IDEA, as you have already specified an explicit "admin" group, and you have already added yourself to the admin group.10:23
fdovingeilker: doesn't need to, no.10:24
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eilkerArafangion:ok so i dont do it, sorry for asking, because i dont know what to do10:24
eilkerfdoving: thank fdoving10:25
fdovingeilker: if you want to add yourself. copy the root line.. and replace root with your username.10:25
Arafangioneilker: Ok, some fundamental theory.10:25
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fdovingah.. arafangion just said that :)10:25
Arafangioneilker: User management on Linux consists of groups and users.10:25
Arafangioneilker: Every user belongs to some primary group.10:25
fdovinggreat minds think alike :)10:25
Arafangioneilker: Most distros now add each user to a group of their own, calling the group the same as the user, in other words, you were added to a group called eilker by default.10:26
Arafangioneilker: Now, to ease administration, it's convenient to add various privilages to "Everyone in the floppy group" (So that they can access the floppy drive), or to everyone in the "audio" group (So that they can use the sound card), etc.10:26
Arafangioneilker: What we have here is the "admin" group, which has the privilage of being able to use the all-powerful sudo program.10:27
Arafangioneilker: We have added you to this "admin" group, so you too, are able to use this sudo program.10:27
eilkerArafangion: i am new linux user, not similar these definitions, so that i asked for adding myself to sudoers file or not, because i have kde logging problem as i said, thank you very much for your interest:)10:28
Arafangioneilker: It's actually a tiny subset of the windows account management.10:28
eilkerArafangion: yes u r right10:28
Arafangioneilker: Now, the sudoer's file has nothing to do with KDE itself.10:29
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eilkerArafangion: now let me reboot computer, to see if i will have , logging problem again, i wonder if our solution solved it too or not10:29
Arafangioneilker: Who do you login as at the moment?10:29
Arafangioneilker: Just log out and log back in again.10:29
eilkerArafangion: i have only two user, root and eilker10:30
Arafangioneilker: *sigh*10:30
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Arafangioneilker: Please type in: ls -lah ~/ and paste the output to rafb.net/paste10:30
Arafangioneilker: I think you've been running programs as root when you didn't need to - as a result, these programs stored their configuration in /home/eilker/.foo and this is conflicting with kde's startup.10:31
Arafangioneilker: In anyc ase, this paste will confirm that.10:31
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eilkerArafangion: sir here it is http://rafb.net/paste/results/Tm5PCs34.html10:32
Arafangioneilker: Ok, that's good, you haven't been runing programs as root :)10:33
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eilkerArafangion: :)10:33
Arafangioneilker: What's the precise issue you have with respect to logging in as eilker ?10:34
Tired_Hi. I'm looking to replace one of my Windows machines with Kubuntu. It has to be able to share a drive over the network with the other Windows box...what would I need to google to find out more about how to do that?10:34
xsacha!samba10:34
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT10:34
Tired_Lovely. Thank you. :)10:35
ArafangionTired_: Incidently, samba servers are faster than windows at sharing files.10:35
Tired_As long as it's fast enough to stream a DVD, I should be OK.10:35
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eilkerArafangion: i open my computer, before kde logging screen comes a console, i close it, kde login screen comes, and i write my password, it doesnt accept, i select from menu "console login" in console i login as eilker than startx10:36
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Tired_Oh...I need it to go the other way...sharing a disc from the Ubuntu machine to the Windows one...Samba is the tool for that as well?10:37
ArafangionTired_: Be aware that by default, Ubuntu can't play encrypted media.10:37
ArafangionTired_: Yes :)10:37
Tired_The Windows box plays the media...the Kubuntu box will be for actual work.10:37
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xsachayeah you just stick cd rom in share in samba for your kubuntu box10:38
ArafangionTired_: imho, once setting up ubuntu so that it can play DVD's, Linux actually plays them /better/ than windows.10:38
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Tired_Unfortunately, my windows box has to stay windows for my pvr software...I don't care for myth10:38
Tired_:/10:39
eilkerArafangion: now let me reboot, to see it solved or not :)10:39
Arafangioneilker: :)10:39
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eilkerArafangion: coming after two minutes :)10:40
Arafangioneilker: I'll be gone :)10:40
eilkerArafangion: ok thanx for all:)10:40
Arafangioneilker: np :)10:40
Tired_wow, it has a GUI? sweet...things seem to have improved a lot since last time I tried linux (back on 2003)10:40
xsachait does? :O10:40
ArafangionTired_: What's the gui called?10:41
xsachai've been editing the config file in vim :(10:41
Tired_i dunno...i found screenshots on one of the samba pages on the ubuntu wiki10:41
ArafangionTired_: They're writing a brand new replacement for samba at the moment.10:41
xsachalink10:41
xsachaoh, right, the bots link10:42
Tired_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba10:42
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Arafangion Tired_ I don't see any gui for samba on that page.10:43
xsachaNetwork Settings10:43
Tired_oh...i could very well be mistaken10:43
ElectrolyteWhat the heck is wrong with OpenOffice?10:43
ElectrolyteHonestly, the fonts are horrible.10:43
ArafangionElectrolyte: Fonts are what comes with Linux, afaik.10:43
ElectrolyteI have MSCore fonts isntalled though :/10:43
ElectrolyteIt's showing Arial and it looks dreadful.10:43
ArafangionElectrolyte: How did you install them?10:44
Electrolyteapt...10:44
ElectrolyteAll other programs are fine, except OpenOffice.10:44
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Tired_the one other problem i anticipate is converting my drive from NTFS to ext3 or whatever I end up using...can that be done without a second disc or losing files?10:44
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xsachacant convert from ntfs to ext3 :S10:45
ArafangionTired_: possibly, but for something as critical as that, I ALWAYS suggest backing it up anyway.10:45
martinezhallo10:45
florghi, my apt is unusable because an application formerly installed with apt has been deleted accidently10:45
zorglu_Tired_: burning cd ?10:45
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fdovingflorg: do you have error messages?10:45
florgis there a way to force apt to remove the package from the list?10:45
xsachayou could send your important files to your other comp (network)10:46
Tired_lol, not really critical...it's mostly just avi's and mp3's...i just don't want to waste 20 dvd-r's backing up 100GB just to put it back on with the new filesystem10:46
fdovingflorg: is the package available online, from the repositories?10:46
fdovingflorg: easiest way is to reinstall it, and then remove it with apt.10:46
florgyes10:46
ArafangionTired_: How much free space do you have on there?10:46
zorglu_Tired_: you can not convert ntfs to ext3 'inplace' you need some external storage10:46
florglol. this i tried the whole last night!10:47
florgnow it works10:47
Tired_on this one, or on the whole network, Arafangion?10:47
xsachaif you have spare space you could 'slowly' swap over the data :P10:47
florgthx10:47
ArafangionTired_: On that HDD.10:47
xsachawell resizing ntfs is meant to be risky10:47
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Tired_'slowly'? 20GB free of 120 total10:47
ArafangionTired_: If it's nearly full, you could consider just leaving it as NTFS.10:47
ArafangionTired_: You just won't be able to write to it.10:47
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Tired_I thought nothing could read NTFS all that well except windows10:48
xsachayou can read ntfs perfectly fine, just not write10:48
Tired_oh, that wouldn't work, then10:48
xsachayou can view the files, play music off it and so on10:48
xsachayou can actually eidt the files so long as the filesize of the file does not change10:48
Tired_it's not completely static...I move stuff on and off every now and then10:48
xsachaedit*10:48
Tired_sounds like I'll have to bite the bullet and waste the dvd-r's10:49
Tired_at least they're cheap10:49
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xsachahow much space on the other hard drive?10:49
xsachaon the network10:49
ArafangionTired_: You could always purchase another HDD.10:50
Tired_20gb free on the drive I want to change, probably around 30GB on the network drive, but spread over 6 drives10:50
xsachabuying another hard drive wouldnt be bad :P instead of wasting money on dvd-r's you wont use again10:50
Tired_no where to add a new drive...every slot is taken :/10:51
xsachathen you'd have ~120 G10:51
xsacha220*10:51
Tired_i'd need a new PC10:51
xsachaexternal?10:51
ArafangionTired_: Temporarily remove one.10:51
xsachayeah remove one from other PC10:51
Tired_external's an idea...10:51
Tired_hadn't thought of that10:51
Tired_i could take the 250 out of the network drive and put it in a USB enclosure and replace it with one of those nice new 500's10:52
ArafangionTired_: All you need is the source HDD, destination HDD, and some boot media, such as your CD drive.10:52
ArafangionTired_: A few hours later, the copy should be done, and you can set it back the way it was.10:52
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Tired_:) sounds like I have several options10:53
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xsachathat's what linux is about :p10:53
Tired_one last question...kind of an opinion thing10:54
Tired_what will i find less good on an older, slower processor?10:54
ArafangionTired_: What do you mean?10:54
Tired_(dual pentium 3 xeon 550's)10:54
Arafangion"less good"?10:54
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ArafangionTired_: As far as linux is concerned, that's fast.10:54
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ArafangionTired_: It's RAM that you need to think about in Linux.10:55
Tired_not as useful or working as it would be on a more modern processor10:55
Tired_oh, I have 1.5GB10:55
Tired_it's an old server hand-me-down10:55
xsachai never get to use my cpu to its fullest :( like 10% in a compile.. even with beryl and crazy 3d effects highest im getting is around 27%10:55
ArafangionMy server is 233MHz.10:55
Tired_i was wondering about beryl...i don't really know what it is, but it sounds nifty10:56
Arafangionxsacha: You must have a decent graphics card.10:56
xsachapretty old.. Radeon 9600 256MB10:56
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Tired_define 'decent' in that context, would you?10:56
xsachaberyl runs fine on a Radeon 750010:57
Tired_would a GF4 be ok?10:57
xsachait runs fine on a GF2 and yes, great on GF410:57
Tired_awesome :D10:57
Tired_as a technically minded home user, would there be any advantage to using the LTS version, or should I just use the latest?10:58
linuxmigration^^ is why i wish ubuntu had a third stage of stability a la debian10:59
Tired_hmm?11:00
xsachai dont know, i just know i want cutting edgy :P11:00
Tired_i can see how the LTS would be advantageous for someone at work, but I don't mind having to learn how to fix something if it breaks (heck, that's part of the fun)11:01
xsachawell there's heaps of support here anyway :)11:02
Tired_:)11:02
Tired_you seem like nice enough folks11:02
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linuxmigrationTired_: debian has one repo that one almost anything can get into (and doesn't need to work on every supported arch), one that requires baking in the first one for a while (few weeks or a month.  might also require the package to work on a couple archs) and one that is what the second becomes after a freeze.  that requires all packages to be available for every architecture that's supported.11:03
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noaXess_kubuntu!easysource11:04
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:04
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Tired_well, that's about all the questions I can think of...I'll be sure to return if I have any problems :) thanks for the help11:07
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ElectrolyteOh OpenOffice sucks.11:08
ElectrolyteYou click on an image within a document, and it crashes.11:09
ElectrolyteJust closes - nothing else.11:09
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TheGateKeeperElectrolyte: this on edgy?11:12
Hobbsee!pbuilder11:12
ubotupbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto11:12
ElectrolyteYup.11:12
ElectrolyteI also have the font problem too.11:12
ElectrolyteMaking it difficult for me to do my college assignment ;(11:12
ubuntuIs it possible to install kubuntu whit a minimal installsion without kde and X and other applications?11:12
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TheGateKeeperElectrolyte: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-October/022037.html11:13
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ElectrolyteAh, thanks.11:14
TheGateKeeperElectrolyte: If I get to find a usefull fix it goes here: http://za1012001.googlepages.com/%28k%29ubuntufixes11:14
TheGateKeeperElectrolyte: yw :-)11:15
ElectrolyteOh great, my sources list is broke :/11:15
ElectrolyteURGH.11:15
ElectrolyteNow I need to edit it manually to fix it :/11:15
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TheGateKeeperElectrolyte: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories11:16
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ElectrolyteWhere is sources.list?11:16
ElectrolyteSince it's broken apt won't launch.11:16
mslElectrolyte: /etc/apt/sources.list11:17
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ElectrolyteTy :/11:17
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TheGateKeeperdamn I was too slow11:17
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gianluca_Hi to Everybody11:18
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ElectrolyteTheGateKeeper: How do I add deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/ubuntu/ edgy/all/?11:19
Electrolytethe edgy/all/ bit broke the sources list before.11:19
momalanyone know of a dock bar for kde? similar to kiba-dock but more kde friendly?11:19
AZ_AStried an old DOS game in DosBox under Kubuntu, but the only problem is I can't see the cursor so I don't know how to get out of DosBox...suggestions?11:19
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TheGateKeeperElectrolyte: I don't use edgy (at least not yet) so I am not sure that looks like a repo --> http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/ubuntu/edgy/all/11:22
TheGateKeeperElectrolyte: you have added a space maybe that is the problem11:23
voicuhi, shouldn't libxine-extracodecs be enough for amarok to play mp3 files?11:23
voicui'm using edgy11:23
TheGateKeepervoicu: yep11:23
abattoirvoicu: yes, it should(as it installs libmad as well)11:23
ElectrolyteTheGateKeeper: No, that isn't the problem.11:24
voicubtw, what does libmad do why isn't it installed with the other packages when kubuntu is set up?11:24
voicu*and why11:25
ElectrolyteTheGateKeeper - after you have /ubuntu/ it should be /dist/ then /edgy/11:25
fdovingElectrolyte: 'deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/ubuntu/edgy/all/ ./'11:25
ElectrolyteK.11:25
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ElectrolyteAnd that broke the list AGAIN.11:25
raulursuhi  all11:26
fdovingElectrolyte: no way? what i told you did not break the list, it should work.11:26
ElectrolyteIt breaks if you use Adept Manager.11:26
MilhousePunkRock!multimedia > voicu11:26
ElectrolyteAnd I'm about to pull my hair out over this programming assignment :<11:27
ElectrolyteI hate .Net so much.11:27
fdovingI don't belive it breaks with adept manager either.11:27
raulursumitza11:27
voicuthanks but i solved the problem. i forgot that the package i already had was for dapper, not edgy11:27
raulursueu as manca o tocanitza11:27
raulursutocanitza11:27
voicusilly me11:27
ElectrolyteTheGateKeeper: It looks like the packages are broken.11:27
ElectrolyteAdept just gave me an error :/11:27
voicuraulursu, nice to see romanian but try english :D11:28
raulursu:))11:28
raulursuk11:28
voicuit's spelled poradge11:28
raulursuvocu u are romanian11:28
ElectrolyteTheGateKeeper: Failed to fetch http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/ubuntu/edgy/all/edgy/all/openoffice.org-style-default_2.0.4-2ubuntu0.4_all.deb  404 Not Found11:28
raulursuvoicu u are romanian11:28
ElectrolyteTheGateKeeper: And it does that with all 5 packages :/11:28
voicuuh, yep11:28
raulursuy:)11:28
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AZ_ASsomeone else helped me out so all's well :)11:29
TheGateKeeperElectrolyte: like I said I don't use edgy this was from someone I know who does, & got it working11:29
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raulursulinux kubuntu is verry nice11:30
georgebElectrolyte: the address is wrong, try http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/ubuntu/edgy/all/openoffice.org-common_2.0.4-2ubuntu0.4_all.deb11:30
ElectrolyteI don't want to download all 5 packages manually though.11:30
raulursui' tried it last night11:30
georgebElectrolyte: in your address edgy/all/ appeares two time11:31
voicuhave you ever used linux before?11:31
ElectrolyteNot in my sources.list it doesn't however georgeb.11:31
TheGateKeeperElectrolyte: if someone else can fix this & produce a repo it begs the question what are (k)ubuntu playing at!!11:31
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ElectrolyteI don't think they have that respository setup correctly :/11:32
Electrolyterepository*11:33
TheGateKeeperfdoving: any idea when (k)ubuntu is going to pull it's finger out & put these open office fixes into the repos?11:33
ElectrolyteToo bad KOffice doesn't support .doc.11:33
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TheGateKeeperElectrolyte: did you upgrade from dapper?11:34
ArafangionWhat program do you guys use to burn CDs?11:34
ElectrolyteNope.11:34
fdovingElectrolyte: ah, it's 'deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~doko/ubuntu/ edgy/all/'11:34
chahibi_k3b11:34
TheGateKeeperk3b11:34
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ArafangionTheGateKeeper: I guess you weren't here when Ubuntu had a seg faulting OpenOffice ;)11:34
chahibi_why is Kubuntu and GNU in general slow?11:34
fdovingTheGateKeeper: it needs an SRU, it's ongoing afaik.11:35
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Arafangionchahibi_: Define "slow"11:35
georgebElectrolyte: i tried adding the repos from https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2006-October/022037.html in my sources.list and it works11:35
chahibi_I mean starting application and responsiveness11:35
Electrolytegeorgeb - yes, but Adept it breaks.11:35
TheGateKeeperfdoving: SRU ??11:35
Arafangionchahibi_: Compared to windows?11:35
ElectrolyteIt adds some sort of weird character.11:35
fdoving!sru | thegatekeeper11:35
ubotuthegatekeeper: sru is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates11:35
chahibi_Arafangion: For example, yes11:35
Arafangionchahibi_: Windows preloads like crazy.11:35
Arafangionchahibi_: So, when you start MS Office, it's /already/ loaded.11:35
Electrolytefdoving - ty, that worked.11:35
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chahibi_Arafangion: Hmm, OpenOffice is faster on win than on lin11:36
Arafangionchahibi_: OpenOffice is a complex problem.11:36
TheGateKeeperfdoving: ohhh11:36
chahibi_Arafangion: Is there anyway to make me feel Linux faster?11:36
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Arafangionchahibi_: You could install oooqs-kde11:37
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TheGateKeeperchahibi_: yep install arch linux11:37
ElectrolyteTheGateKeeper: Any idea when the font problem is being sorted for OpenOffice?11:37
georgebElectrolyte: it works in adept too; i pasted my /etc/apt/sources.list at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30261/11:37
TheGateKeeperElectrolyte: none I am just a user :-)11:37
chahibi_TheGateKeeper: Does it have a broad range of packages?11:37
Electrolytegeorgeb: Well, it didn't work for me.11:38
Electrolytegeorgeb: It added some really weird character to the end.11:38
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ArafangionHow do I burn an ISO in KDE?11:38
chahibi_Arafangion: K3B11:38
georgebElectrolyte: then try to add the repos as in my paste11:38
chahibi_Arafangion: Double click on the iso file11:38
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ElectrolyteI've already done it georgeb.11:38
ElectrolyteI used fdoving's.11:39
TheGateKeeperchahibi_: yes as far as I know, but be warned it's for intermediate users11:39
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ArafangionJust for interest, why can't I use cdrecord -scanbus?11:40
chahibi_Arafangion: sudo cdrecord -scanbus11:41
Arafangionchahibi_: It complains about not having access to /dev/pg*, even with root pivs.11:41
Arafangion*privs11:41
JackPhilhow to connect several irc servers when konversation launch up11:41
chahibi_Arafangion: Let k3b do it by its own11:42
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Arafangionchahibi_: Just installed it, now it's doing an md5sum.  Last time I used k3b was 5 years ago ;) Could be interesting.11:42
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Arafangionchahibi_: It's nice.11:42
chahibi_Arafangion: You can burn without waiting for the check11:42
Arafangionchahibi_: First time I use something, I tend to just take all the defaults, to see what it does :)11:43
chahibi_:)11:43
chahibi_Arafangion: The best Kubuntu/ubuntu soruce of Howtos, Docs...??????????11:43
Arafangionchahibi_: But my question still stands - how does one use cdrecord today?11:43
chahibi_Arafangion: No idea, man cdrecord11:44
ArafangionHeh.11:44
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chahibi_Arafangion: it has may be changed because of the new Kernels11:44
Arafangionchahibi_: It appears that cdrecord has languished out of development - it's still stuck with the early scsi-compatible mode burners11:45
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Arafangionchahibi_: Exactly.11:45
chahibi_Arafangion: I have the same problem11:45
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chahibi_Arafangion: You can get the info you want from K3B configure....11:46
chahibi_The best Kubuntu/ubuntu soruce of Howtos, Docs...??????????11:46
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Arafangionchahibi_: I'm old-school, I like the command line :)11:46
Arafangionchahibi_: Yes, the wiki, I know.11:46
Arafangionchahibi_: I'm in an awkward spot because I'm so used to the "old" systems, and I'm using Ubuntu - with KDE rather than kubuntu proper.11:47
ArafangionSo #ubuntu can't help with any suggestions, and usually the wiki isn't as detailed as I'd like it to be.11:47
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chahibi_Arafangion: man:/ in Konqueror looks cool11:48
chahibi_Arafangion: and info:/ too11:48
cpk1Arafangion: ubuntu with kde is kubuntu...11:48
ArafangionNice. :)11:48
Arafangioncpk1: Minus the sound control, minus the keyboard bindings, minus the cd burner, minus the...11:49
cpk1Arafangion: the only difference between kubuntu and ubuntu is one uses kde and one uses gnome11:49
Arafangioncpk1: The Ubuntu folks bind too much crap to gnome itself rather than keeping things nice and separate.11:49
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Arafangionbrb, setting up server :)11:50
cpk1Arafangion: minus, cd burner, bindings and sound control?!?! that makes no sense11:50
Arafangioncpk1: Indeed.11:51
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chahibi_Krita is tooooooooooooooooooooooo much slow11:53
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xsachams partnering up with novell? http://www.mustap.com/media/msLinux.gif12:00
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cpk1old news12:01
Arafangionxsacha: If it's on slashdot, it's old news.12:02
Arafangionxsacha: If it's on newsforge, it's probably ancient news.12:02
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ArafangionWierd, found an 80G HDD in my room.12:02
ArafangionBut it looks corrupt!12:02
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mc__|hausarbeitwhats the best p2p app in edgy?12:08
cpk1well frostwire is pretty much the only option...12:09
mc__|hausarbeitcpk1: it seems to be broken12:09
xsachahttp://www.kde-apps.org/index.php?xcontentmode=23412:09
cpk1mc__|hausarbeit: no, you need to tell it to use bash instead of dash12:10
mc__|hausarbeitcpk1: ill try12:10
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grxmrxis there any way to set firefox background with kubuntu settings?12:10
mc__|hausarbeitcpk1: it already uses bash12:11
mc__|hausarbeitxsacha: thank you12:11
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xsachayou mean the frostwire script? it will have 'sh'12:11
grxmrxI have changed font settings and then firefox GUI background changed from light gray to dark gray...12:11
xsachachange the 'sh' to 'bash'12:11
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josh_how do i reconfigure a new sound card12:11
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mc__|hausarbeitxsacha: nope it has bash12:12
cpk1mc__|hausarbeit: you edited /usr/bin/frostwire ?12:12
mc__|hausarbeitcpk1: nope12:12
mc__|hausarbeitcpk1:12:12
cpk1so that line 3 looks like bash runFrost.sh12:12
mc__|hausarbeit#!/bin/bash12:12
mc__|hausarbeitcd /usr/lib/frostwire12:12
mc__|hausarbeitsh runFrost.sh12:12
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xsachachange sh to bash12:12
cpk1mc__|hausarbeit: so it uses dash, edgy uses dash instead of bash now12:12
mc__|hausarbeitcpk1: oh sorry,i just looked at the shebang12:12
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mc__|hausarbeitcpk1: dash instead of bash,now that will cause a lot of problems12:13
xsachayeah12:13
wilmanwhat is the shell irc program?12:13
xsachairssi12:13
wilmanok;)12:13
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josh_how do i configure a sound card?12:15
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skriptseeing how there are still some 'edgy known problems', how safe/stable is it to run edgy ?12:16
xsachastable and safe right here but maybe i'm lucky12:16
skriptok... I hope ill be just as lucky then ;)12:17
mc__|hausarbeitskript: beside an easy to fix frostwire bug i expierienced no problems12:17
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mc__|hausarbeitskript: also no crashes12:17
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skriptok... thanks for the feedback12:19
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marcopeople, I need a lot of help12:22
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marcoseriously12:22
marcoI just updated my language settings to my native language12:23
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marcoand it cancelled openoffice!!!!12:23
marcowhy?12:23
marcohow can I install it again?12:23
marcoplease help me12:23
marcoI really need to use some documents12:23
xsachajust install it again in adept12:23
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marcoit breaks12:24
cpk1maybe there isnt an open office in your language?12:24
cpk1what language is your native one?12:24
xsachacould try KOffice12:24
marcono, impossible, I was using it in italian before12:24
marcoI tried with apt get but it says I cannot, the package is incomplete12:24
marcowhere I can find some .deb files for openoffice?12:25
der_steppenwolfi want to download kubuntu 6.10 and install it but i don't want to erase my whole partition, which has now kubuntu breezy,  because i have much information in my home directory. How can I erase appropriately the whole distribution?12:25
cpk1marco: try installing this? openoffice.org-l10n-it12:26
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marcobut that is just the language pack12:26
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cpk1but it will probably install the rest of open office12:26
marcoreally?12:26
marcoI'm trying it now12:26
marcoplease stay with me for some help12:27
der_steppenwolfanyone can answer me?12:27
cpk1der_steppenwolf: you will need to upgrade to dapper and then upgrade to edgy12:28
der_steppenwolfit was not possible, i tried12:28
der_steppenwolfnow the system is damaged. Even i can install kde12:28
xsacha:S12:29
der_steppenwolfSo, i want to download a distribution12:29
xsachawell it is 'possible' it just broke for you for some reason :(12:29
der_steppenwolfi can't install kde, sorry12:29
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xsachayou didnt make a /home partition? : (12:29
cpk1xsacha: alot of people dont12:29
marconothing seems to happen12:29
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marcoit just wants to install also the mozilla package for italian12:30
der_steppenwolfnope, that was an error12:30
cpk1marco: =\ it was mostly a shot in the dark12:30
marco?12:30
marcowhat u mean?12:30
cpk1marco: I was hoping that since its the language pack for OOo that it would also need ot install OOo12:31
der_steppenwolfWell, i could repartitionate, right?12:31
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der_steppenwolfwhich utility can do that in kubuntu?12:31
marcoso u know where I can find the deb files for openoffice?12:31
vandenoeveris there jambi for kubuntu?12:31
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cpk1probably at openoffice.org12:32
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vandenoevercpk1: really, openoffice + jambi?12:34
vandenoevercpk1: oh never mind, wrong lines12:34
cpk1err no, that was @ marco12:34
marcono, nothing there12:34
georgebmarco: OOo is in the main ubuntu repository12:35
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cpk1der_steppenwolf: i suppose you could make a new partition out of free space and move your /home there and then format the other partition and install on that and then resize /home to have more space12:35
marcoyeah but Adept don't let me download it!!12:35
georgebmarco: the IT language pack for OOo package is called openoffice.org-l10n-it12:36
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georgebmarco: what's the error ?12:36
marcoit breaks12:36
marcopackage incomplete12:36
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der_steppenwolfyes, i suppose that as well, can you recommend me a good partition program?12:36
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rythanGParted Live CD12:36
marcoI have a .tar file...can I install it as a .deb one?12:38
cpk1if you have a .dsc and .change along with the tar (.change might not be needed) you can make a .deb12:39
marcohow?12:40
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marcoand what if I donwload a cd image?12:42
marcoit would install just like a .deb file, right?12:42
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xsachayou can use cd as a repository12:46
marcohow, can u teach me how?12:46
marcowhat I have to put in my source.list?12:46
xsachai've never had to do it :P12:47
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ArafangionBasically invokes dpkg-scanpackages, but I've also never had to do it.12:49
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eilkeranyone can help for this ? "xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/eilker/.Xauthority"12:53
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esbeneilker: Try ls -l /home/eilker/.Xauthority12:53
intelikeyor better yet sudo rm /home/eilker/.Xauthority12:54
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esbenintelikey: Hey! I was trying to ease him into understanding the problem here :o)12:55
intelikey;/12:55
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intelikeywhy not just tell him ?12:55
esbenintelikey: I wanted to be sure first :)12:56
intelikeylol12:56
intelikeyok12:56
eilkeresben: is this problem ? "-rw------- 1 root root 49 2006-11-05 13:45 /home/eilker/.Xauthority"12:56
eilkerintelikey: should i delete it?12:56
intelikeyeilker it is indeed.12:56
intelikeyyes you should12:57
esbeneilker: Yes. you have probably started X as root at some point, and now your own user can't write to .Xauthority. Just delete it, it will be recreated :)12:57
intelikeyor at the least chown it.12:57
intelikeyeither will work equally well in most cases12:57
esbeneilker: And you don't need to be root to rm it, not that it really matters :)12:57
intelikeyesben you better rethink that one.12:58
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eilkeresben: my problem is, when i reboot computer, before kde logging screen comes a console12:58
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esbenintelikey: What? You can delete any file as long as you own the directory, and you can't change permissions of other people's files  without becoming root (or them)12:59
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esbeneilker: Have you delete that file yet? If yes, there is probably more stale files in /tmp12:59
intelikeyesben "<eilker> esben: is this problem ? "-rw------- 1 root root 49 2006-11-05 13:45 /home/eilker/.Xauthority""  <---^   dude...01:00
esbenintelikey: Bend it in neon for me, please. I don't see it01:00
cpk1[04:01:08]  <esben> eilker: Yes. you have probably started X as root at some point huh, i thought to start stop KDM you had to be root anyways...01:01
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intelikeyesben "<eilker> esben: is this problem ? "-rw------- 1 root root 49 2006-11-05 13:45 /home/eilker/.Xauthority""  <---^   dude...01:01
intelikey:)01:01
[cf] nightrid3resben: i realy want to see you delete a file thats owned by root as a regular user01:01
cpk1its not hard01:01
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cpk1sudo rm01:01
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[cf] nightrid3rcpk1: :)01:02
Philletjena p er01:02
esben[cf] nightrid3r: sudo touch tmpfile; rm tmpfile01:02
esbenI just did it01:02
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esben[cf] nightrid3r: As long as you own the directory, you can delete any file.01:03
intelikeyand cpk1 actually you can hack xorg to accept starting as user but it's very un-stable, or else a complete hack.01:03
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eilker"xauth: x user not authorized to run x server" why do i always get this?01:04
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Arafangioneilker: Cut a long story short: These are the groups I'm part of:01:04
Arafangionarafangion adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin01:04
intelikeyesben your test is flawed.   sudo touch blah ;ls -l blah   will reviel that it's not  600   as that auth file was.01:04
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eilkeri get this whenever i open my  pc , before kde logging window "xauth: x user not authorized to run x server" why do i always get this?01:05
esbenintelikey: sudo touch tmpfile; sudo chmod 600 tmpfile; rm tmpfile works too :p01:05
eilkerArafangion: didnt we give access right together ? why do i still get it ?01:05
intelikeyesben you didn't ls it.01:06
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Arafangioneilker: There are several different groups you should belong to.01:06
esbenintelikey: This is getting long :)  sudo touch tmpfile; sudo chmod 600 tmpfile; ls -l tmpfile; rm tmpfile => -rw------- 1 root root 0 2006-11-05 13:12 tmpfile01:07
Arafangioneilker: It's probably complaining about at least the audio and video groups.01:07
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Arafangioneilker: But, I would persevere with intelikey, as it sounds like you are capable of becomming a rather competent admin.01:07
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intelikeyesben and ?   :)01:07
eilkerArafangion: how can i add those grorups ?01:07
intelikeyoh duh...  you can't rm it as user.... geee01:08
esbenintelikey: I can still delete the file.01:08
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Arafangioneilker: usermod -G adm,dialout,cdrom,...01:08
esbenintelikey: really, I sweat I just did it :)01:08
esben*swear01:08
Arafangioneilker: Followed finally by your username, of course.01:08
cpk1sudo rm is actually rm'ing as root not a user =P01:09
cpk1technically speaking01:09
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esbencpk1: There is no sudo in from of my rm (if you were speaking to me). Doing it on a separate line works too, but is less copy&paste friendly01:10
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intelikeycpk1 he's right.  it's dir perms.  not file perms.01:10
Arafangioncpk1: I feel that it's better to say that it's rm'ing as the user, with root privs.01:11
intelikeyyou can write to ~ so you can rm ~01:11
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Arafangioncpk1: Since sudo doesn't replace the environment variables (Annoyingly)01:11
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eilkerArafangion: i checked all system groups included in user eilker01:11
intelikeyArafangion -i it does.01:11
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intelikeyesben i stand recrekted.  (corrected that is)  i suppose i had forfoten that it it dir permissions that restrict removal....  sorry.01:12
eilkeri have only 908 mb free in kubuntu, can this be thr origine of problem, i have already installed lamp server too01:13
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cpk1you know what I have noticed lately? everyonce in a while some of my apps (mainly gaim and gkrellm) lock themselves up for a couple of seconds while refreshing themselves01:13
cpk1so, if root throws something in ~ the user can remove it?01:14
intelikeyesben i get so used to seeing knot heads tell me things that aren't so that i almost expect it now...  i'll try to watch that a little more closely.    k01:14
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esbenintelikey: hehe, don't worry :) I hope I didn't offend :) You do a lot of good work in here :)01:15
eilkerarafangion: i have only 908 mb free in kubuntu, can this be the origine of problem, i have already installed lamp server too01:15
[cf] nightrid3rcpk1: ati video card ?01:15
cpk1nvidia01:15
cpk1it doesnt seem to happen to my k apps01:15
eilkeresben: intelikey likes to talk :)01:15
cpk1I have kopete and gaim sitting right next to each other and gaim goes white refreshing itself while kopete is fine01:15
intelikeyesben if you reprove a wise man he will love you, but if you reprove a scorner all you will get is a black eye...  (proverbs of soloman)  :)01:16
[cf] nightrid3rcpk1: i have the same with thunderbird01:16
[cf] nightrid3ralso nvidia card01:16
esbenintelikey: ain't that the truth :)01:16
intelikeyindeed.01:16
Arafangioneilker: So long as 908M is significantly more than 10% of the HDD, it should be fine.01:16
cpk1and then when I look at my monitor it will show a 100% cpu usage spike for when that happened01:16
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Arafangionintelikey: I shall have to use -i :)01:17
Arafangionintelikey: But, imho, it should've been the default, as it's been the subject of so many newbie mistakes :(01:17
intelikeyArafangion and eilker the reserved percentage can be set with  e2fstune01:17
[cf] nightrid3rcould be the video driver, ATI has the same problem but worst01:17
Arafangionintelikey: 10% is a _very_ good reserved percentage, imho.01:18
cpk1Arafangion: cant you just do su -01:18
intelikeyArafangion imo the default should not implement the root jr. method.01:18
eilkerahahah:) i think someone have fun with newbie eilker:P01:18
cpk1i'm using the proprietary driver01:18
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Arafangioncpk1: I do when I actually want it to replace the env variables, but I much prefer sudo to su01:18
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intelikeyArafangion depends on the space avalable and the expected need.    2% should be plenty01:19
klaus_hi?01:19
cpk1I used to not have a root account set up01:19
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cpk1until one day sudo broke in the middle of a session01:19
cpk1klaus_: hello!01:19
intelikeyArafangion i run not standard, but i have 0% reserved.01:19
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cpk1and let me tell you: if sudo breaks in the middle of a session and you dont have your root account configure oh boy01:20
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intelikeycpk1 it just means a reboot.01:20
Arafangionintelikey: When you have 100% disc useage, having some reserved space is _really_ nice.01:20
Arafangionintelikey: If it's a huge disk, why not give yourself even 1%?01:20
cpk1intelikey: I very messy reboot01:20
klaus_cpk1: can you tell me how to config gtalk in kopete01:20
cpk1gtalk?01:21
klaus_cpk1: yes01:21
klaus_cpk1: jabber01:21
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intelikeyArafangion why reserve space and cause a full disk situation when there is actually free space left ?     it's all in the perspective.01:22
cpk1well i dont use jabber but I'm sure all you need to do is go to configure and then accounts and click new01:22
eilkeri run amarok , a small window comes says "updating database" than it closes itself and amarok, but i can run it from console as root, and by right clicking to mp3 than run with amarok01:23
intelikeyArafangion and having ubuntu installed on a 610m hdd i have ran out of disk space several times....  i know pretty much what it does and what to do about it.01:23
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Arafangionintelikey: I like having a few inodes to at least make a symbolic link to assist with migration.01:24
[cf] nightrid3rintelikey: thats not a HD thats a supersized floppy01:24
Arafangionintelikey: 610MB hdd is an extreme case, though...01:24
intelikey"migration"  ?     if the disk is full only migration is to /dev/null  :)01:24
georgebArafangion: intelikey: I use lvm and reiser; with lvm I can resize partitions on the fly; and reiser can resize the fs online ;-)01:25
cpk1610mb hdd... why not just use a RW cd? =P01:25
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Arafangiongeorgeb: I prefer ext3.01:25
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Arafangiongeorgeb: Even suze is now using ext3.01:25
intelikeycpk1 hd is faster01:25
cpk1isnt reiserfs starting to fall by the wayside?01:25
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eilker"mixer cant be found " in right bottom, it was ok  before upgrade....01:26
Bubba_Gump:)01:26
intelikeycpk1 we'll see as the coart case evolves....01:26
ehirdhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_3D_Noah's_Ark i have da leet skillz in dis.01:26
Arafangioncpk1: reiser3 is, pretty much. I think all the attention is on version 4, depending on the court case.01:26
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ehirdwhen is it going to be ported to linux01:26
Arafangionehird: Probably when the author realises that speed isn't everything.01:27
cpk1intelikey: not even that, the reason suse is stoping using reiserfs is because it still has a lot of problems =X01:27
cpk1and no one is really working on it01:27
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georgebArafangion: well, after a lot of flames I saw on the net I understand that 1. reiser is better than ext3 at dealing with small files; 2. ext3 is more "robust" than reiser; but I love the online resize of reiser, and it's not like reiser is totaly messed up, just that it's more likely than ext3 to cause corruptions, anyway the situations when this could happen are still very few :)01:28
eilkeri run amarok , a small window comes says "updating database" than it closes itself and amarok, but i can run it from console as root, and by right clicking to mp3 than run with amarok. by the way  , in right bottom , "mixer cant be found " , it was ok  before upgrade....01:28
intelikeycpk1 yes i know that.  but this trial can make or break reiserfs    it has brought some added attention to it.01:28
Arafangiongeorgeb: I'm not too happy with ext3 either, but reiser really needs to work on reliability and the rough edges.01:29
cpk1well ext4 is coming!01:29
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intelikeypartitionless01:30
Arafangioncpk1: An awful hack on ext3, indeed, but hopefully it'll come :)01:30
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Arafangioncpk1: Personally, I'd like a clean break, with a cleanly implemented filesystem that can actually be implemented on other OS's by sane people.01:30
Arafangion(Such as BSD's and windows)01:30
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cpk1windows can use ext201:30
intelikeyfile recovery is nice tooo01:30
Arafangioncpk1: How well, though? :)01:31
cpk1not sure about ext3 though01:31
eilkerpeople, from where can i get help for kubuntu , place for newbie ?01:31
cpk1probably better than linux can use ntfs01:31
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zorglu_implementing one fs on top of the other allows backward compatibility, it is why they did ext3 on top of ext2 and now ext4 on top of ext301:31
Arafangionzorglu_: That's a convoluted way of saying it.01:31
klaus_who can tell me how to configure google talk in kopete01:31
Arafangionzorglu_: ext4 isn't exactly "on top of" ext3.01:31
zorglu_eilker: suppose to be here :)01:31
intelikeycpk1 anything that can "read" ext2 can read ext3  they are the same +/- the journel01:32
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Arafangionzorglu_: Depending on which design they went with, they use multiple ext3 partitions.01:32
eilkerzorglu_: they r making fun with my problems:D01:32
zorglu_Arafangion: just a matter of word here01:32
intelikeyzorglu_ don't you mean ext4 on top of ext2   ???01:32
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esbenheh, actually ext3 can do online resize apparantly since 2.6.6... I didn't know that01:33
zorglu_eilker: they should not, it is against the ubuntu code of conduct01:33
zorglu_!coc | eilker01:33
ubotueilker: The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/01:33
zorglu_eilker: feel free to remind them01:33
Arafangionzorglu_: Most people here are *K*ubuntu users, though ;)01:33
zorglu_intelikey: well by transitivity i gues s:)01:33
Bubba_GumpArafangion has a point :))01:34
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zorglu_Arafangion: oh he meant ubuntu as gnome ubuntu01:34
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zorglu_eilker: your question are related to gnome ?01:34
intelikeyzorglu_ can't ext4 still be mounted as ext2 like ext3 can ?01:34
xsachawouldnt the new extents mess it up?01:34
eilkerzorglu_: i use kde, kubuntu 6.06 dapper01:34
honestpeteI'm having an issue with the rezolution after first time install of kubuntu, it's stuck @*48001:34
zorglu_intelikey: no clue, i was just repeating some basic info i got from the web, i didnt follow the matter01:34
esbenintelikey: From wikipedia: The ext4 filesystem is backward compatible with ext3, that is, it can be mounted as an ext3 partition01:34
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xsachaoh ok01:35
zorglu_eilker: ok, im lost01:35
Arafangionzorglu_: He's learning to use usermod, groups, access privilages, starting X11, etc.01:35
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zorglu_eilker: in anycase, they should not make fun of your question01:35
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eilkerzorglu_: they r not offensive01:35
intelikeyesben ext3 is but ext2 + journal01:35
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Arafangionzorglu_: Somehow, he's managed to jump into a deep end somewhere, and he actually seems like the sort of user who may actually become a competent admin.01:35
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xsachaMilhousePunkRock: laptop?01:35
Bubba_Gumpmilhouse: i've a laptop and the power controls are right in the lower-right01:36
MilhousePunkRockxsacha: Still...01:36
zorglu_Arafangion: ok all seems good then01:36
Bubba_Gumpquite handy, i must say :D01:36
zorglu_ok am lost :)01:36
xsachaare you using a laptop?01:36
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eilkerarafangion: you r wrong01:36
zorglu_if all is good, im good :)01:36
intelikeyeilker what was your question ?01:36
MilhousePunkRockBubba_Gump: Guidance or KPowersave?01:36
Bubba_GumpPower Manager it says01:36
eilkerarafangion: i just upgraded with adept than i had many problems01:36
MilhousePunkRockxsacha: Yes... The settings kinda vanished after the update from Dapper to Edgy01:36
eilkerarafangion: i am not playing with system01:36
Arafangioneilker: Ahh, _that's_ how you jumped into the deep end :)01:36
xsacha:(01:37
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MilhousePunkRockBubba_Gump: That's Guidance then... It does not give many options to tune though...01:37
cpk1can ls list by type instead fo alphabetically?01:37
xsachaguidance-power-manager?01:37
Bubba_Gumpwhich parts do you want to tune?01:37
xsachain a konsole01:37
eilkerintelikey: i have several problems, one of those is this, i run amarok , a small window comes says "updating database" than it closes itself and amarok, but i can run it from console as root, and by right clicking to mp3 than run with amarok. by the way  , in right bottom , "mixer cant be found " , it was ok  before upgrade....01:37
Arafangioncpk1: Unfortunately, there isn't really a concept of a file's "type".01:38
xsachaextension01:38
cpk1well list by dir then file at least01:38
Arafangioncpk1: It's part of what made Unix so good for programmers.01:38
eilkerzorglu_: by the way thanx for your interest01:38
MilhousePunkRockBubba_Gump: Well... When I press Fn-F4, it suspends, but does not wake up again properly. When I choose "suspend" from the powermanager, it suspends and resumes just fine01:38
zorglu_eilker: my pleasure01:38
Arafangionxsacha: Actually, in Unix, it's more the magic number - the extension is practically irrelevant.01:38
xsachabut can you list by extension01:38
Bubba_Gumpyeah i've noticed that01:39
Arafangionxsacha: I don't believe so.01:39
cpk1and it obviously knows the difference of extensions which is what I was getting at01:39
MilhousePunkRockArafangion: Files do not even need extensions...01:39
MilhousePunkRockRiddell: You there?01:39
ArafangionMilhousePunkRock: Thankyhou for once again providing a clearer version of what I meant :)01:39
MilhousePunkRockyw Arafangion :-D01:39
xsachai know that, i often dont use extensions, but i'd like the ones with extensions to be sorted01:39
Arafangionxsacha: In the command line, people tend to organize files quite neatly.01:40
cpk1yes but ls and ls -h spits it out alphabetically, I would like each color to be with its own color =P01:40
intelikeyeilker hmmm that would be anoying indeed.  unfortunatly you are out of my range of knowledge there.  i'm still using dapper so i don't have the same system to poke around in.  also i don't often use a gui so i'm not an amarok fan/uesr    sorry i can't help you there.01:40
Arafangionxsacha: console file useage tendencies differn considerably to gui file useage tendencies.01:40
Bubba_Gumpthe only files i've which have extensions are the 'designed for windows' ones which i've downloaded from webbys01:40
xsachaArafangion: i use the console01:40
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Bubba_Gumpso i just change them back :)01:41
cpk1eilker: you could also ask in #amarok01:41
Arafangionxsacha: Put all your C code files into the the relevant src directory, all your html files in to their directories, etc. :)01:41
xsachano, that won't do01:41
MilhousePunkRockeilker: A good place to start with your Amarok problem would be to disable the collection update every time it starts01:41
xsachasrc directory doesn't just have .c, it also has binaries and headers and other misfits01:41
eilker<MilhousePunkRock: thanx for this info01:42
Arafangionxsacha: If you like, you could either put the binaries into another directory, or simply ignore htem.01:42
eilker<cpk1: i was thinking it is releated with os, i didnt think that software problem01:42
intelikeyhas .c .h READMES configs and possavly makefiles01:42
Arafangionls *.{c,cpp,h,hpp}01:43
MilhousePunkRockeilker: Or even better, check if "user" has permission to search the folders that are included in Amarok's collection01:43
xsachathat's even worse :P01:43
Arafangionxsacha: Then write a script to sort it :)  Be a rather decent script to check out a new language, infact.01:43
cpk1so you cant make ls list differently besides alphabetically?01:43
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xsachausing ls|grep c     to get all c/c++ files now, but would prefer a simple organise by extension01:44
eilkerintelikey: thanx and one suggestion to all, no need to be hurry for edgy01:44
zorglu_cpk1: some --sort option exists, look at 'man ls'01:44
intelikeyeilker k i'll remember that.01:44
Bubba_Gumpcpk1: i can sort by type in Konq01:44
xsacha--sort=-X01:45
Arafangionxsacha: Make a script that reads all the files, extracts the ends, shoves it into a dict by extension, then iterate through the dict.01:45
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cpk1ls --file-type doesnt do it which was my first gues, you can list by date but i dont want that01:45
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intelikeyeilker the ubuntu site seems to indicate that it's far less problematic to do a clean install of edgy than an upgrade to it....   but again i wouldn't know if that's so or not.01:45
xsachals -X01:45
xsachathis does it :)01:46
cpk1xsacha: cool! so much nicer to look at =)01:46
cpk1its annoying having blue and pink and white all over the place =P01:46
ArafangionNice.01:46
cpk1now they are nice organized01:46
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ArafangionNow why didn't it mention it in the man page?01:47
xsachait did01:47
xsacha-X     sort alphabetically by entry extension01:47
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cpk1it does its under --sort01:47
cpk1i must have missed that =X01:47
cpk1but hey its late for me!01:47
intelikeyxsacha not sure what you are shooting for but something like   find /basedir/ -name *.{c,cpp,h,hpp} -exec file '{}' \;                might help you.01:47
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intelikeyagain i havent kept up so that may be way off what you want.01:49
xsachajust: ls -X :)01:49
intelikeyjohey:  well then try ls -X    :)01:49
intelikeyxsacha that is.01:49
intelikeytab completion error you know. ^01:50
Arafangionintelikey: Damn tabs!01:50
xsachayeah.. j and x ;)01:50
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intelikeyno i typed oh and hit tab and got a nick...01:51
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xsachabitchX eh?01:51
intelikeythat's what the version said wasn't it.01:51
xsacha:( spoofed version?01:52
intelikeyno it's real.01:52
intelikey:)01:52
xsachak01:52
intelikeycould easily be tho.01:52
honestpete!rezolution01:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rezolution - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:52
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zorglu_!resolution01:52
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto01:52
honestpete!resolution01:52
zorglu_me first :)01:53
intelikey!rez01:53
xsachamine will say konversation/irssi or some other stupid linux irc client ;) mIRC really ;)01:53
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about rez - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:53
intelikeyhmmm that used to be set ....01:53
honestpetezorglu_: lol, i'm having probs with the rez, the only option it gives me is the 640*48001:53
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xsachai think you mean !res intelikey01:54
intelikeycould be.01:54
intelikeyi guess it was.  but i thought it was z01:54
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intelikeyand that's not the same infonode   it gave the  dpkg-recon line in it.01:55
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Grigorgeousanybody knows what is the  plugin to install for opera broswer to work fine?01:55
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zorglu_honestpete: i dunno, have no time to acutally help. out of the blue, check your monitor is properly configured01:57
intelikeysomething like   some resolution problems are caused by a misconfigured x-server, try;   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    if that is the case.01:57
zorglu_looks like default resolution on low monitor <- honestpete01:57
rbrunhuberHow can i import rss feeds to akregator from firefox?01:57
intelikeythat may not be word for word but it's in the neibourhood.01:57
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intelikeyie01:58
esbenGrigorgeous: I know nothing about Opera.. but what do you mean? Are you talking about a plugin to Opera?01:58
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Grigorgeousyes a macromedia plugin01:59
georgebrbrunhuber: in firfox2 at Edit->Preferences there's a tab where you can select an application for the feeds; never tried it though01:59
esbenGrigorgeous: ok. I don't use either, sorry01:59
intelikeygun shoots, gota go02:00
MilhousePunkRockGrigorgeous: The Netscape (=Mozilla =Firefox) plugin should work fine02:00
krautmoin02:01
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rbrunhubergeorgeb: it does not work. akregator expects cli parameters. But even my script does not work02:02
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MilhousePunkRockGrigorgeous: In case you have Fx installed and the flash-plugin, just point Opera to the location of it02:03
didoes anyone know a workaround for the power saving bug? namely, when you choose to switch monitor after 1 minute, after reboot it changes to 1 hour, when choosing 2min it changes to 2 hours. thanks.02:03
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lishis dapper the newest virsion ?02:04
honestpete!resolution02:04
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slow-motionhallo02:10
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jende!openoffice02:31
ubotua free and open source office suite, including word processor, spreadsheet, presentation, vector drawing and database components.  To install: "sudo apt-get install openoffice.org".02:31
jendewhich OOo vesion is the latest available for dappper? Is it 2.0.4 as like as in edgy?02:32
charlie5hi ... i'm installing edgy and at the disk partitioning stage ... i'm trying to select /dev/sda1 as the root '/', but when I hit 'continue' ... there is an error saying 'no root filesystem'02:33
jendecharlie5: on sda1?02:33
charlie5jende: the error message doesn't really say ... just 'No root file system'02:34
charlie5there is not much room on the sda1, but i have selected re-format, so that shouln;t matter ?02:35
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jendecharlie5: did it reformat anyway?02:36
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charlie5jende: no, it won't proceed any further ... maybe i need to re-format sda1 in the previous stage ...02:37
charlie5though it seems a little odd02:37
jendecharlie5:yep...anyway I assume that your sda1 is a USB stick. Am I right?02:37
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charlie5jende: nope :) ... its 1st partition on my main hard drive02:38
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jendecharlie5:don't be nervous02:39
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charlie5be afraid ? ... ;-)02:39
jendecharlie5: is there another freaky system installed on your hdd?02:39
charlie5ok, i'll try the re-format in the earlier stage ... thanks02:39
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jendecharlie5: like W$?02:40
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charlie5jende: no, i'm cl;obbering my old dapper OS with edgy02:40
jendecharlie5: hold on02:40
jendecharlie5: I'll pastebin you the easy way02:40
charlie5jende: much obliged :)02:40
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jende!paste02:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:41
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arriespola02:41
jendecharlie5: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30268/02:42
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charlie5jende: thank you02:44
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jendecharlie5: If you proceed like that you'll be done in approx 15mins without any hassles02:45
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charlie5jende: sounds great :D ... will let you know how it goes02:45
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jendecharlie5: cool ;-)02:46
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charlie5jende: one last thing ... my current dapper is a fresh install, does it need to be updated before i do the edfy upgrade ?02:46
jendecharlie5: nope02:47
grayghostI installed 6.10 bata a month ago.... is it necessary to upgrade to the final release or is that done automaticaly ?02:48
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charlie5jende: cheers ... back soon02:49
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jendecharlie5: why is that?02:55
charlie5jende: err, could you repost your pastebin link ... i srta kinda lost it when aborting the eralier install02:56
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jendecharlie5: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30268/02:57
charlie5jende: thanks again ... sorry for the extra trouble02:57
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jendecharlie5: no worries02:58
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guptaCan anybody guess why this crontab entry isn't working> 29 19 * * * locate -u -e /tmp -e /proc -e /media -e ~/.opera/cache403:00
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guptaThe same command works from the shell03:00
charlie5mmm, this don't look too good ...03:00
charlie5Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/edgy/Release  Unable to find expected entry  -security/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)03:00
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charlie5suggests i try apt-get update ... i'll give it a shot03:01
guptaThis crontab entry work btw > 29 19 * * * touch ~/somefile03:02
sorush20are there any child safty programs I can use to filter my internet?03:02
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shenteyhi! did anyone experience problems with icq functionality of kopete under kubuntu?03:04
zorglu_shentey: dont know the details but a lot of people reported issue recently03:04
zorglu_gupta: in theory it should send email to root about the result, you may check what does it say03:05
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zorglu_sorush20: good question :)03:05
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guptaemail as in ?03:06
shentey@zorglu_: thanks for the info, i'm glad it is an issue already03:06
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zorglu_gupta: ?03:07
zorglu_shentey: you may get more details on #kopete03:07
sorush20zorglu_: do you mean that you were also unable to find any such programs03:07
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zorglu_sorush20: im not aware of any, but googling right now, as it is a 'good aquestion' :)03:08
charlie5there is a '-' in front of my updates and security entries as shown by adept ... is that normal ?03:08
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zorglu_sorush20: http://www.pcbypaul.com/software/squid.html seems to be a free solution03:09
vandenoeveri'm trying my webcam, but the image is gray, any idea on how to fix that?03:09
zorglu_sorush20: http://www.linspire.com/surfsafe_msn_compare.php <- this one is not, dont even known if it is available on ubuntu03:10
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zorglu_sorush20: apparently there is nothing obvious03:12
zorglu_heard yesterday that vista a very good one tho :)03:12
jendezorglu_: have you an idea what grub error code 20 means?03:12
zorglu_20 : Multiboot kernel must be loaded before modules This error is returned if the module load command is used before loading a Multiboot kernel. It only makes sense in this case anyway, as GRUB has no idea how to communicate the presence of such modules to a non-Multiboot-aware kernel. <- fromhttp://www.suselinuxsupport.de/wikka.php?wakka=Gruberrors03:13
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BluesKajHowdy All!03:14
zorglu_vandenoever: wild guessing, a driver issue, have you tried 'dmesg' ?03:14
vandenoeverzorglu_: yes, the cam's recognized properl03:15
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vandenoeverpwc Registered as /dev/video003:15
zorglu_vandenoever: have you tried different viewer ?03:15
vandenoeveri tried kopete and camgrab03:16
vandenoevercan't install xawtv03:16
zorglu_there are mplayer and vlc too03:16
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zorglu_it is just in case one viewer init v4l differently than the other03:16
vandenoeverzorglu_: i'll have a look at those03:16
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zorglu_on a preivous install, i add to launch vlc twice before it got the picture03:17
KennyTheFreakAnyone knows the Mac OS X x86 project? insanenlymac.com? could anyone upload it somewhere? the torrents are slow like HELL03:17
vandenoeverzorglu_: mad03:17
zorglu_KennyTheFreak: well this is offtopic, moreover this is illegal. so lets avoid discussing that here03:18
KennyTheFreakkk03:18
BluesKajKennyTheFreak, besides, this is a Linux room ...go join a mac chat03:19
KennyTheFreakhhehe03:20
KennyTheFreak:P03:20
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vandenoeverzorglu_: vlc is also gray (2nd time too)03:21
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zorglu_hmm no real idea03:22
zorglu_are you in the 'video' user group ?03:22
zorglu_my last idea :)03:23
vandenoeverzorglu_: i think is more a driver issue, i probably need a setting03:23
vandenoeverzorglu_: the signal from the cam is gray, i do have access03:23
zorglu_yep more likely, before the pwc driver came with a tool for that03:23
zorglu_i dont remember the name03:23
vandenoeverpwcset, yes, i can look for that03:24
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vandenoevermplayer gives me a green video ...03:25
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BluesKajanyone use quicktime in their media03:27
BluesKaj?03:27
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ElectrolyteIs there any way to auto-login with Kubuntu Edgy?03:28
ElectrolyteThe option in System Settings has been removed since Dapper :?03:28
Electrolyte:/*03:28
Dr_WillisElectrolyte:  kdm has that option i recall.03:29
ElectrolyteAh, do I simple run kdm as root then?03:29
Electrolytesimply*03:29
Dr_Willisyou may need to use that 'administrator' mode button in the kdm config tool03:29
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Dr_Willisthe silly admin mode button tends to get hidden on my systems due to the wundows being small. i gotto resize them to get it to be seen03:30
ElectrolyteWell in User Management I can't see anything for auto-login/.03:31
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Dr_Williskcontrol --> system admin -> login manager03:32
Dr_Willislook in the right place. :)03:32
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ElectrolyteDidn't know kcontrol worked since Kubuntu uses something else :/03:32
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dude_hi guys !03:32
Dr_Willisit does? heh - they all edit the same config fules03:32
ElectrolyteDr_Willis - yeah, but Login Manager doesn't exist in the System Settings panel.03:33
ElectrolyteI'm gonna replace System Settings with KControl instead.03:33
Dr_Willisi just put that applet on the taskbar to get to stuff mainly03:33
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BluesKajElectrolyte, how?03:33
ElectrolyteChange the command behind the icon :P03:33
zorglu_mplayer tv:// -tv driver=v4l:device=/dev/video0:width=640:height=480:noaudio -vf-add pp=hb:a/vb:a,hqdn3d,mirror <- maouaou some fun with a webcam, all is in the filter :) the mirror is nice for webcam and the denoiser too :)03:34
BluesKajwhich icon?03:34
ElectrolyteSystem Settings in the KDE menu.03:34
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Dr_Williszorglu_:  i like to set my webcam where i am upside down. :)03:35
BluesKajmthe only way I know to access kcontrol is thru the "run command"03:35
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ElectrolyteBluesKaj: Simple change the command on the System Settings icon in the KDE menu to "kcontrol".03:36
ElectrolyteSimply*03:36
mortiisi'm having a fx 2.0 flash problem, whenever i try to view a site with flash content, it crashes and gives me "The error was 'BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)'"03:36
zorglu_Dr_Willis: :)03:36
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BluesKajok Electrolyte03:36
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Dr_Willis'add applet to panel' --> 'settings' --> there ya go a nice icon/menu03:36
ironfrog1yAny idea why Konversation, after updating to edgy, is unable to connect to freenode, although irssi has no trouble? I get "[09:36]  [Error]  Connection to Server  lost: operation is not supported. Trying to reconnect." from Konversation03:37
Dr_Willissomthung i feel should be on the panel by default. ;0 along with a konsole button. heh03:37
gnomefreakBluesKaj: is systemsettings pretty much the same?03:37
gnomefreakmortiis: its a known bug. there are a few workarounds for it. if you give me a minute ill see if i can find them03:37
Dr_Willisironfrog1y:  try some different servers? they may be using different servers and having some server issues.03:38
mortiisgnomefreak, great, thanks!03:38
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gnomefreakDr_Willis: konsole has a panel applet i thought to the right of the little computer icon ont he left03:38
BluesKajit is syssettings in a different form - konk03:38
Dr_Willisgnomefreak:  not that ive seen.. i just had to add it for my new user i made. :)03:38
ironfrog1yDr_Willis: im not really sure how. i dont specify any server, just irc.freenode.net and whatever rotation i get. ive tried a couple times and it should try a random server each time, no?03:38
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Dr_Willisironfrog1y:  the last few days ive beenhaving issues connecting also.. changed servers and it helped.03:39
Dr_Williscould try a single server like niven, or whatever.  on each03:39
zorglu_host irc.freenode.org <- to get a list of server03:39
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gnomefreakmortiis: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+bug/62988  theres a workaround or 2 in there03:40
mortiisgnomefreak, thanks a lot03:40
gnomefreakyw03:40
gnomefreakbe back in a few03:41
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BluesKajI'd just like to put kcontrol in the kicker ..how is that done ?03:43
Dr_WillisBluesKaj:  just make an icon forit.03:43
BluesKajalready have sys settings in the panel03:44
Dr_Willisor use that 'settings' applet in kicker..03:44
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Dr_Willisit gives shortcuts to the control-applets03:44
Dr_Willislooks like a little wrench. :003:44
Dr_Willisand is top menu item is 'controlcenter'03:45
mortiisgnomefreak, found a workaround :)03:45
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wilman_anyone using irssi?03:49
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wilman_q03:50
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dennisterg'day all03:50
BluesKajI use it sometimes, wilman_03:50
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BluesKajirssi works ok03:51
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dennisterare any edgy users in here today who have a hauppauge wintv 250 tuner working?03:51
ehirdHmm what's KDE's default font setting03:52
ehirdnew apps suddenly have tiny fonts03:52
ehirdUsing sans-serif 9pt03:52
fdovingwilman: i use irssi.03:52
dennisterhi fdoving :_03:53
fdovinghi dennister.03:53
ehirdhellooo03:53
dennisteru have edgy, right?03:53
fdovingyes03:53
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BluesKajdennister, I'm using TVTime , due to the fact that my ATI tvwonder card runs on it03:54
BluesKajgotta go audio direct tho03:54
dennisteri'm having a problem with the latest nvidia drivers and my tuner...absolutely no distro seems to work with my tuner (pretty standard one) since nvdia removed dga support03:55
ehirdit's 10pt isn't it03:55
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BluesKajdennister, i think TVTime supports nvidia03:56
dennistersupposedly they all do...but no matter which tvapp i use, i get the dga error and no signal03:57
BluesKajhave you tried TVTime ?03:57
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dennisterit's the nvidia people's doing...lots of complaints in the nv forums...yes, i've tried tvtime03:58
BluesKajok03:58
dennisterand xawtv, and motv, and vdr...03:58
ehirdafter exporting a var with bash how do i make it stick across all sessions and even on apps not launched via terminal03:59
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dennisterwhat's the kernel for edgy again?04:00
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dennister!edgy04:01
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)04:01
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fdovingehird: you must restart the applications. If you want global environment variables, put them in /etc/environment04:01
jendedennister: 2.6.1704:01
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dennisterthx jende; I have a decision to make and am having some troubles with it04:02
jendefdoving: howdy04:02
ehirdwhat's the /etc/enviroment syntax04:02
fdovinghi jende.04:02
ehirdI need to export DEBUG_DONT_SPAWN_FETCHES=104:02
jendedennister: what prob?04:02
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jendefdoving: how are ya?04:02
fdovingehird: VARIABLE=value04:03
delusionshi, i'm using dapper 6.06, i want to know why my system waits about 5-15 seconds while "mounting root partition", how can i learn ?04:03
dennisterjende: like which installation to try next, which release, etc04:03
jendedennister: i woould give edgy a go...it's a beauty of a system04:03
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jendedennister: eventhough easy to upgrade04:03
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jendedennister: that's all you have to do: -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30268/04:04
ehirdfdoving: do i need to restart now? >.>04:04
dennisteri'll go clean install...i'm just nervous about the ivtv drivers problem...and even IF i get the ivtv drivers compiled properly there's little chance i can get the tuner working without dga support for a proper output04:05
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fdovingehird: logout should be enought. unless you need the system services to know about this variable.04:06
jendedennister: okay...with your TV prob I'm definitely noot a good helper, sorry04:06
jendenoot=not04:06
ehirdig uess04:06
dennisterno jende, u have helped :)04:07
jendedennister: great ;-)04:07
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jende!ivtv04:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ivtv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:07
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jendeBluesKaj: how are ya?04:08
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jendeBluesKaj: !Ping04:09
BluesKajhi jende...I'm fine , and how're you ?04:10
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Trollinatordoes boost.org work for you?04:10
BluesKajtrying to setup quicktime04:10
jendeBluesKaj: kinda dead, had to chop some trees yesterday04:10
BluesKajbummer for the trees :(04:10
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jendeBluesKaj: ah well, they had to be chopped. And then again I like to have it warm in the house04:11
BluesKajI have a large maple that will ahve to be trimmed waaaay back one of these days04:11
jendeBluesKaj: esp in autumn and winter04:11
BluesKajahh burn wood eh ?04:11
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jendeBluesKaj: yep - no oil, no gas04:12
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dennisteromg!!! r the proper ivtv drivers compiled with edgy?04:13
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dennisteris looking at mythedgy docs04:14
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ehirdDEBUG_DONT_SPAWN_FETCHES=104:17
ehirdis there a way to get /etc/enviroment to work without logging out?04:18
frank_I'm having a strange issue: In kubuntu dapper, I'm running firefox 1.5 and mythtranscode at the same time. mythtranscode uses up all my CPU. when mythtranscode runs at nice=19, firefox is responsive and working fine. when mythtranscode runs at nice=17 (the default), firefox is so slow it's not usable. All the other programs run fine. Any ideas.04:18
wilmanhow to open several irc channels in irssi04:18
wilmanseveral windows04:18
ehirdwilman: it's pretty obvious04:19
ehirdthen /window <number>04:19
ehirderr04:19
ehird/join #channel04:19
ehirdthen /window <number>04:19
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dennistercan anyone tell me if ivtv drivers are precompiled with edgy on i386?04:19
wilmanok04:20
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frank_dennister: not sure... I had to compile my own in dapper. Never tried edgy04:20
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frank_... I think04:21
dennisterdid u ever get them working frank? I tried, but failed miserably04:21
dutchyI cant find how to add a 'show desktop' button to the panel, can anyone help me do this if it is possible?04:21
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frank_dennister: yeah mine are working. what card do you have?04:22
dennisterI spent days and weeks getting lamp server and desktop working, but couldn't get the ivtv drivers compiled04:22
dennisteri've got a hauppauge wintv 25004:22
TrollinatorRight-click on the panel and search for yourself. it's noch that hard to find.04:22
Trollinatordoes boost.org work for you?04:22
lupine_85is the kernel module called ivtv?04:22
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dennisterbut i was also struggling to get em working on 64-bit system, and i think i'll try the i386 this time, if i decide to try again with edgy04:23
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dude_hi guys04:24
dude_need some hepl04:24
lupine_85I can't find a module called ivtv in edgy04:24
dude_need some help04:24
dennisterfrank, i'm not registered04:24
frank23dennister: Yeah I had to screw around with them to get it working04:24
dennisterthx lupine04:24
dude_my kaffeine won't open04:24
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frank23dennister: go to  to #frank2304:25
Trollinatorkaffeine sucks anyway..04:25
joheyAfter upgrading to Edgy, Kopete doesn't want to let me log in to ICQ anymore. Is that a known problem, or is it most likely me?04:25
Trollinatorjohey: known bug04:25
bobulatorm hey there im trying to get kubuntu to install on a HP pavillion. when i try and run the install CD, it just starts loading the kernel and then resets the computer. any ideas why? ta!04:25
Trollinatorwait a minute, i can tell you fixed kopete pacakges.04:25
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joheyTrollinator: Ah oki. No current workaround?04:25
dude_Trollinator: any suggestion?04:25
abattoirbobulatorm: try booting in the 'safe mode'04:26
bobulatormyeah tried that, same deal04:26
joheyTrollinator: Ah. Oki. :)04:26
Trollinatorhttp://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kopete-fix/kopete-dapper/04:26
joheyTrollinator: Is that an apt repository or should I dpkg install it?04:26
abattoirbobulatorm: wait, this is right after you hit enter, at the boot prompt?04:26
Trollinator*sigh* why don't you see for yourself`04:27
bobulatormabattoir: after i hit enter, it starts loading the /casper/ type stuff, goes to a blank screen then resets04:27
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Trollinatorkmplayer is better than kaffine (IMO)04:27
Trollinatorkaffeine*04:27
ehirdhow would I change Use A Different Mail Client to use GMail04:28
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abattoirbobulatorm: hmm, media is clean, i guess you can't run the cd checker tool as well?04:28
abattoir*media is clean?04:28
bobulatormnope :(04:28
Trollinatordoes boost.org work for you?04:28
Bubba_Gumpis frostwire a good p2p client?04:28
ehirdBubba_Gump: no04:28
fdovingjohey: that is not an apt repository. as the files will disappear once the fix is in the repositories.04:28
Bubba_Gumpehird: what is?04:28
joheyTrollinator: Because I don't really know how an apt repository looks like. Thanks anyway.04:28
abattoirbobulatorm: press 'Esc', it should take you to a 'boot:' prompt04:28
bobulatormit gets as far as "Uncompressing linux - botting the kernel" then resets04:29
joheyfdoving: Oki, thanks!04:29
Trollinatorjohey: you owe me a favor... tell me if boost.org works for you04:29
bobulatormyup, ok04:29
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abattoirbobulatorm: i think you should enter linux and hit enter, wait i'll confirm04:29
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gemidjyany1 Kaffeine 0.8.2 for dapper ?04:29
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joheyTrollinator: Is boost.org an apt repository? Just kidding.. Yep, I can access it via http.04:30
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Trollinatordamn!04:30
Trollinatorlol04:30
ubuntu_nabend04:30
Trollinatorit doesn't work for me :(04:30
Trollinatorubuntu_: falsche Sprache...04:30
ehirdboost.org doesn't work for m04:30
ehirde04:30
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antonio_hi all04:30
Trollinatorhm, so it's not just me :)04:30
ubuntu_hello04:30
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antonio_it's my first time here04:31
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Trollinatorantonio_: so... what?04:32
chrivers!kernel04:32
ubotukernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild04:32
abattoirbobulatorm: this is the live cd? or the alternate one?04:32
bobulatormlive04:32
ehirdwhere do i stop kubuntu resuming current session04:32
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antonio_indeed i'm a newbie in ubuntu world04:32
ehirdon bootup04:32
Trollinatorantonio_: so... what?04:32
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chriversehird: what do you mean?04:33
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bobulatormrecklon i should give the alternate a go?04:33
ehirdchrivers: on bootup kubuntu loads apps i had loaded04:33
holibanumits my first usage04:33
chriversehird: there's a "restore session on startup" option in kde04:33
ehirdchrivers: but where04:33
Bubba_Gumpyou're right, frostwire is pretty naff04:33
chriversehird: you can change it in the kde control panel somewher04:33
Bubba_Gumpany ideas for better file sharing?04:34
holibanuminstallation 90 per cent compleeted04:34
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ehirdchrivers: my questions was where!04:34
ehird*sigh*04:34
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joheyTrollinator: Guess what. Kopete now works with ICQ. :D04:34
Trollinatorgee, i can't believe it.04:35
Trollinator*rolleyes* ;(04:35
Trollinator;904:35
Trollinator;)04:35
Trollinatorah, dammit04:35
Trollinatori can't type :(04:35
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ehird/etc/enviroment does NOT work04:38
skriptI'm currently installing kubuntu... I'm at the 'prepare mount points' step...  when I use the default mount points (/media/hda1...) for NTFS partitions, the installer isn't going to erase/format them, is it ?04:39
ehird"DEBUG_DONT_SPAWN_FETCHES=1" in /etc/enviroment = mysql admin still crashes04:39
ehirdbut it works with export in terminal then running mysql-admin from it04:39
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ehirdweird works now04:40
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abattoirbobulatorm: hmm, sorry, vmware is not loading up, so i can't test it... my guess is that the cd wasn't burnt properly04:41
bobulatormive tried it with a proper pressed one too :(04:41
bobulatormand with a known working one04:41
abattoirbobulatorm: hmm, that's weird04:41
abattoirbobulatorm: have you tried the alternate cd?04:42
abattoir(but that loads the kernel in a similar fashion too, from what i've seen)04:42
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SHRIKEEskript i believe the default formats the whole drive04:42
bobulatormnope, downloading it now04:42
bobulatormany other boot options?04:42
bobulatormim guessing its a kernel thing?04:42
bobulatormi thought linux24 was a 2.4 kernel but tis not working04:43
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abattoirbobulatorm: linux24?04:43
bobulatormas in, at the boot prompt04:43
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josh_i can't play high definition wmv videos04:44
zerakdo one have to disable the tvcard to get the sound to work, my sound is out and i know it some time past worked04:44
BluesKajzerak, you shouldn't need to04:45
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zerakBluesKaj i hope not, do you got any suggestion ?04:45
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BluesKajcheck your drivers ...have you updated your desktop (KDE) or your OS ?04:46
zerakBluesKaj i remembered that there was some command to test the sound system (there are many but a specifik program), used it yesterday and got file not found error or something04:46
dude_pls help04:47
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zerakall but those who replaces other programs, i have to tell it to replace but havent done so since i dont know what i would be doing04:47
BluesKajcheck Kmix , make sure it's installed04:48
bayeris there a way to verify all packages on my system - similar to rpm -V ?04:48
zerakgot it right down there in the corner, it shows 2 kinds, the soundblaster live 24 or as it say ca010604:49
dude_pls help me on my kaffeine player04:49
zerakand another04:49
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josh_ok i'm going to go install windows xp04:50
josh_cuz vista is good, but bad for gaming04:50
dude_abattoir: are you busy?04:50
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josh_how do i reinstall grub?04:50
BluesKajsoundblaster is your soundcard ...kmix is the program that controls the sound volume and inputs04:50
abattoirdude_: why?04:50
LeeJunFan!grub04:50
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:50
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dude_abattoir: kaffeine is busted, it won't open04:51
BluesKaj!Kmix04:51
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Kmix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:51
josh_thanks04:51
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zeraki know, but alsa use CA0106 as the name for  <=> soundblaster live! 24 bit04:51
BluesKajKMix04:51
BluesKaj!KMix04:51
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zerakand Kmix shows the information that alsa tells it04:51
abattoirdude_: what did you do when it last ran? was it closed properly?04:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about KMix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:51
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NicksteLAptopHey all04:51
abattoirdude_: try 'killall kaffeine', tell me if there is any output in a terminal04:51
NicksteLAptopCan one compile code from the live cd?04:52
dude_abattoir: nothing, i just played a video then closed it04:52
apokryphos!anyone04:52
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?04:52
abattoirNicksteLAptop: sure, but you'll need to install extra packages04:52
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NicksteLAptopsuch as?04:52
apokryphosNicksteLAptop: check the FAQ04:52
abattoirNicksteLAptop: what are you trying to compile?04:52
Bubba_Gump:)04:52
dude_abattoir: no output04:52
NicksteLAptopkismit  :)04:52
vandenoeverMedia change: please insert the disc labeled04:52
vandenoever 'Kubuntu 6.10 _Edgy Eft_ - Release i386 (20061025)'04:52
vandenoeverin the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter04:52
vandenoeverhow can i avoid this?04:53
abattoirdude_: hmm, then it isn't running, try 'kaffeine' in a terminal... see what it says04:53
apokryphosvandenoever: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the CD line04:53
apokryphosvandenoever: then save it, and sudo apt-get update04:53
vandenoeverapokryphos: thanks!04:54
abattoirNicksteLAptop: you mean kismEt?04:54
joserochaI'm trying tou use the Java EE package. But I'm having problems in execute update-java-alternative. Could someone help me? I'm using kubuntu edgy.04:54
NicksteLAptopthat one! :)04:54
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abattoirNicksteLAptop: install build-essential04:54
dude_abattoir: its running : ), what happened?04:54
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NicksteLAptopabattoir: what is build-essential?04:54
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georgebjoserocha: try running sudo update-alternatives --config java04:55
abattoirNicksteLAptop: it's a meta package which pulls down the most common stuff needed for compiling packages...make sure you have additional kismet dependencies, if any, installed04:55
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abattoir!b-e | NicksteLAptop04:55
ubotuNicksteLAptop: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)04:55
zerakI thought Edgy was a sharp version, seems more as a beta04:55
josh_yeah really eh04:55
kuto2hmm odd when one is better than the other04:55
dude_abattoir: its running : ), what happened?04:55
zerakdapper gave me network problem, edgy gives sound problem04:55
josh_i was gonna go amd64 too04:55
josh_that would have been a mistake04:56
abattoirdude_: close it, and try launching it from kmenu(or wherever you were trying to launch it from before), see if it works from there now04:56
dude_abattoir: ya, its working, but what happened?04:57
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abattoirdude_: don't know ;)04:57
dude_abattoir: ok, thanks04:57
abattoirdude_: could be PEBKAC too ;)04:57
kuto2kde icons are cool04:57
kuto2atleast in my version04:57
Th3_Cr0up13Rhey guys, whats a valid theme type coz my files are gone quite small and the description is gone white and i cannot see anythin what they are called04:58
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Th3_Cr0up13Ri nee to change this in order to do some work04:58
kuto2how do i beryl in kde?04:58
dude_abattoir: PEBKAC04:58
abattoirTh3_Cr0up13R: there are different 'themes types' what do you exactly mean?04:58
abattoir!beryl | kuto204:59
ubotukuto2: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.04:59
Th3_Cr0up13R i mean i tried to change the theme from what i already got04:59
Th3_Cr0up13Rwell , the exact actions were04:59
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Th3_Cr0up13Ri donwloaded some themes from kde-look04:59
abattoirTh3_Cr0up13R: you want to switch back to the default one?04:59
joserochaI tried. But I didn't install the java-sun by the apt-get. I had installed the sun package for EE earlier. Do I have to install the java-sun anyway? Cannot I use the earlier installation?05:00
Th3_Cr0up13Runziped them to a folder05:00
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abattoirTh3_Cr0up13R: which 'theme' is this exactly, kde can be 'themed' in a lot of ways05:00
Th3_Cr0up13Rsystem settings/appearence/05:00
dude_abattoir: can you pls look at this error, im always getting this message when im using terminal http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30281/05:00
kuto2brb05:00
Th3_Cr0up13Rwell im on default oo05:00
vandenoeveris there a package i need to compile stuff with cmake? i've already build-essentials05:00
Th3_Cr0up13Rnow05:00
Th3_Cr0up13Rbut its still the same05:01
Th3_Cr0up13Rthe names on the files are white05:01
abattoir!baddevice | dude_05:01
ubotudude_: If you are getting errors similar to "X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168", then please read this page: http://www.linuxfordummies.org/index.php?topic=579.005:01
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Th3_Cr0up13Rcannot see any of it the background is white05:01
abattoirTh3_Cr0up13R: you'd need to change the colours then, choose the colours module05:01
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abattoirTh3_Cr0up13R: it'd be helpful if you actually say which 'theme', or give me a link05:02
dude_abattoir: k copy, tnx05:02
skriptgreat... looks like im gonna have to dload the 'alternate install cd' JUST because i don't want grub in my MBR... one *simple* option missing and I'm forced to downloading a whole new iso image... :(05:02
vandenoeverRiddell: is there a package i need to compile stuff with cmake? i've already build-essentials05:02
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georgebTh3_Cr0up13R: Kmenu -> Settings -> Appearance -> Colours and play around :)05:03
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abattoir!info cmake05:03
ubotucmake: A cross-platform, open-source make system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.3-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 4980 kB, installed size 12028 kB05:03
abattoirvandenoever: ^^^ ??05:03
vandenoeverabattoir: yes, i've installed it05:03
vandenoeverbut cmake tells me05:03
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vandenoeverMESSAGE The C compiler "gcc" is not able to compile a simple test program.05:04
vandenoeverIt fails with the following output:05:04
vandenoever make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.05:04
Th3_Cr0up13RThe theme is the kde-default05:04
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vandenoeveri do have gcc and g++05:04
Th3_Cr0up13Rthe blue and white one05:04
Th3_Cr0up13Rwell the color scheme is the kde default05:04
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loranwhere is grub to be installed05:04
dude_abattoir: i dont wanna edit my xorg05:05
dude_:)05:05
abattoirdude_: it's nothing major, you can just ignore that error05:05
dude_abattoir: it might crash again :)05:05
Th3_Cr0up13Ras for the theme it doesnt matter which one i use it will still not change05:06
Th3_Cr0up13Ri changed the colors05:06
abattoirvandenoever: sorry, try asking at #kubuntu-devel maybe someone there can answer you, if they are around05:06
Th3_Cr0up13Rbut it still doesnt ork05:06
vandenoeverabattoir: ok, thanks05:06
dude_abattoir: so whats that error message?05:06
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abattoirdude_: no, the X error is completely unrelated to kaffeine not starting, X looks for a Wacom device (a tablet), since it can't find it, it complains05:07
lorani'm installing kubuntu edgy and need to know where to install grub05:07
josh_it installs by itself05:07
dude_abattoir: ohh ok...:) tnx05:07
abattoirdude_: as i said, you can edit xorg.conf if you don't want to see it, but you can safely ignore it too05:07
dude_abattoir: k05:08
abattoirloran: do you have other operating systems?05:08
loranno05:08
abattoirloran: then on the MBR05:08
dude_abattoir: how many distro are you using?05:08
lorani took xp off05:08
abattoirdude_: only kubuntu, i386 and amd6405:08
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lorangrub to be installed to hd0 is this correct?05:09
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dude_abattoir: have you tried suse05:09
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LeeJunFanwell if not for a misbehaving pci port the sound card was plugged into, my 7 yr old's install of kubuntu would have went pretty flawles.05:10
LeeJunFans/flawles/flawless05:10
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abattoirloran: yes, that's correct05:11
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abattoirdude_: yes, i have05:11
lorani tried that and it didn't work05:11
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lorani formatted the drive using the install formatter05:11
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abattoirloran: you are using the alternate cd right?05:12
loranlive cd05:12
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abattoirloran: hmm, what other options are there?05:12
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marcoanybody can help me?05:13
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marcohow can I put the cd-rom drive in my repositories?05:13
loranyou can click on the blue underlined text that says (hd0) and change the location but I don't know where to05:13
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abattoirmarco: put the cdrom into the drive and run 'apt-cdrom add' in a terminal05:14
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marcoand that will add it automatically to my repositories?05:14
abattoirloran: what is the disk layout, what are the other partitions?05:14
abattoirmarco: yes, it'll scan the cd for packages and add it to sources.list05:14
ricaneliteHello all!!! I'm using Edgy and where can I get gnuetlla, I think thats how you spell it05:15
marcook05:15
abattoirmarco: 'man apt-cdrom' should give you more info05:15
marcoI try now05:15
abattoirricanelite: you want a 'client' for gnutella?05:15
abattoir!apollon05:15
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ubotuapollon: KDE-based interface to the giFT file-sharing system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.1-5 (edgy), package size 444 kB, installed size 1668 kB05:15
loranThere are 3 partitions and they were all formatted05:15
ricaneliteI use to use gnetellas05:15
ricanelitei guess a client05:15
abattoirricanelite: try apollon05:15
kuto2adept is cool05:16
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ricanelitewhere can I download it from?05:16
abattoirricanelite: it is a client for gnutella(limewire), FastTrack(Kazaa) and OpenFT05:16
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abattoirricanelite: first enable universe(and multiverse)05:16
abattoir!universe | ricanelite05:16
uboturicanelite: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:16
borjahi05:16
borjawhen i sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop i get a black screen05:16
borjaand cannot do anything05:16
abattoirricanelite: then search for apollon in adept, and install it05:16
borjanothing05:17
borjaim trying to install the nvidia beta drivers05:17
borjabut cannot stop kdm and type05:17
borjaanny suggestions?05:17
kuto2how do i enable xgl guys05:17
abattoir!xgl | kuto205:17
ubotukuto2: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:17
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ricanelitealright thanks alot05:18
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loranhda1 hda2 and hda505:18
abattoirborja: have you tried switching to another virtual terminal?05:18
marcono05:18
marcoit deoesen't worl05:18
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marcowork05:18
ricanelitewhat is your thoughts on Edgy??05:18
marcoit doesen't add my cd rom drive to the repos05:19
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marcoI need to install the newest version of Openoffice on my computer05:19
abattoirloran: hmm, do you want to try installing it manually?05:19
marcobut I cannot05:19
borjaabattoir: whats that05:19
borjactrl alt f1?05:19
abattoirborja: what's what?05:19
marcowell, if I try apt-get it gives me some error05:19
loranyes but i don't understand some terms05:19
abattoirborja: oh yeah, yes05:19
marcolike the package is incomplete05:19
abattoirborja: tried that?05:19
borjaill try it now05:20
borjaill come back and tell u the result05:20
borjathanks05:20
abattoirmarco: did you run apt-get update?05:20
marcoand if I try from adept it breapks05:20
marcoyes05:20
marcoof course05:20
marconothing changed05:20
marcoI can try downloading the .tar file from the website but once unzipped all I get is a bunch of .rdm files05:21
marcoor something like that05:21
abattoirmarco: is there a new entry in sources.list?05:21
marcono05:21
marcono new entries05:21
abattoirmarco: did you run it w/ sudo?05:21
marcoyes05:21
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dude_abottoir: new error message, i already fixed the 168 error, now its 169 - X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16905:22
abattoirdude_: both are similar...05:22
abattoirdude_: same cause05:22
marcoI try to add this to my repos deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 6.06.1 _Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060806.1)] / dapper main restricted05:22
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mc__how to set up static networking?05:23
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marcowhat do u think?05:23
ehirdhow do you make a symlink05:23
ricaneliteokay, I just finish installing Apollon and when I open it up it says Where is your giFT?05:23
abattoirmarco: sure, if it doesn't work you can always remove it05:23
mc__ehird: ln -s source target05:23
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mc__ricanelite: sudo apt-get install gift05:24
ricanelitethank you05:24
marcono05:24
abattoirricanelite: gift wasn't installed?05:24
marcoit still doesen't let me install openoffice05:24
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georgebmarco: what's the error ?05:25
tellerhi05:25
marcoit breaks in adept, like there is a crash in the language support and the files05:25
marcoand apt-get says the same05:25
SHRIKEEbugger05:26
abattoirmarco: wait, let me try05:26
ricanelitenah it install05:26
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ricanelitenow Apollon is open and it is trying to establish a connection05:26
abattoirricanelite: make sure you have gift plugins installed too05:26
tellerKonqueror doesn't seem to work with Google maps.05:26
tellerDoes anyone know of a workaround ?05:26
ricanelitewhere can I check for that?05:26
abattoirricanelite: gnutella plugin was installed?05:26
ricaneliteI have to see?05:27
ricaneliteWhere can I check that out?05:27
abattoirteller: try changin the User Agent to Firefox05:27
abattoirricanelite: does it say Gnutella next to OpenFT ?05:27
georgebmarco: try sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get update ; and try to install after that05:27
abattoirricanelite: in the main 'Connection' window(iirc)05:27
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marcowhat does sudo apt-get clean does?05:27
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linuxcoreciao a tutti05:28
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linuxcorequalcuno pu darmi una mano?05:28
georgebmarco: clean  clears  out  the  local  repository  of  retrieved  package  files05:28
loca|hostI want to install a free internet navigation computer, i would like to only get firefox and a cups configuration for a local printer in it, nothing else, what do you suggest me ?05:28
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ricaneliteI just finish installing Gift, and when I open Apollon again i get the same message could not locate your gift please select the path to your gift like /.../share/gift05:28
abattoir!it05:28
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:28
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linuxcoregrazie05:29
linuxcoregood evenig05:29
abattoirprego05:29
ricaneliteand if I click on Okay and then a window opens that is select folder05:29
linuxcorethank's05:29
abattoirricanelite: close apollon05:29
abattoirricanelite: and run gift-setup in a terminal(konsole)05:30
ricaneliteokay05:30
abattoirricanelite: choose the default for most options(except the first one)05:30
tellerabattoir: thanks, I'll do that05:30
ricanelitetype sudo run gift-setup05:30
abattoirteller: wait, what did i tell you? :P05:30
abattoirteller: oh the UA fix ok05:30
abattoirricanelite: not sure if sudo is necessary05:31
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tellerabattoir: the UA fix doesn't work, I'm afraid.05:31
marcostill nothing05:31
abattoirteller: it works fine here in 3.5.505:31
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tellerI still have some error message about the zoom level being wrong (which it isn't.05:31
tellerabattoir: I'll check my version05:31
tellerabattoir: I have 3.5.205:31
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marcoconflict with the files language-support-en and language-support-us05:32
abattoirteller: i think it should work there as well05:32
marcowhich I cannot cancel05:32
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ricaneliteok05:32
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ricanelitewhich one i select? it says /main/setup [0]  and the default : 005:33
jeroenvrphow to hide or disable the 'hibernate computer' button, when I log off in kde?05:33
marcogeorgeb....what should I do now?05:33
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Shan`how do i shut down X?05:33
marcocan I install it manually?05:33
Shan`thru console?05:34
georgebmarco: what exactly do you want to install ? what package do you select ?05:34
jeroenvrpShan`: sudo /etc/init.d kdm stop[05:34
jeroenvrpShan`: sudo /etc/init.d kdm stop05:34
Shan`thanx05:35
marcoopenoffice.org05:35
Bubba_Gump:))05:35
marcoI know there is a downloadable .tar file on the website05:35
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marcobut once I open it there is just a bunch of Rdm or something like that files05:35
marcono .deb files or anything05:35
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georgebmarco: rpm=redhat packet manager; same as debs but mainly for RH systems (other distros can also use them)05:36
marcorpm files05:36
georgebmarco: can you paste the full output ?05:36
georgeb!paste05:36
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:36
marcothe full output of what?05:37
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ricanelitei think the servers might be down, because im assuming i have everything right for Apollon but it is still not connecting05:37
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Shan`i just installed BitchX using Adept05:37
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ricaneliteand im trying to head over to the gift site and the website is not coming up05:37
Shan`where does it install it?05:38
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dude_what is this error message:? /dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 : : No such file or directory05:38
georgebmarco: of sudo apt-get install openoffice.org05:38
abattoirShan`: you mean in the menu?05:38
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Shan`no05:38
Shan`if i need to launch it thru console05:38
marcoLettura della lista dei pacchetti in corso... Fatto05:39
abattoirbitchx doesn't work?05:39
marcoGenerazione dell'albero delle dipendenze in corso... Fatto05:39
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marcoAlcuni pacchetti non possono essere installati. Questo pu voler05:39
lupine_85!it05:39
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:39
marcodire che  stata richiesta una situazione impossibile oppure, se05:39
marcosi sta usando la distribuzione "unstable", che alcuni pacchetti05:39
dude_abattoir: QLayout "unnamed" added to QWidget "unnamed", which already has a layout <--- what is this?05:39
marcorichiesti non sono ancora stati creati o rimossi da incoming.05:39
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marcoPoich  stata richiesta solo una singola operazione  molto facile che05:39
abattoirdude_: where do you get it?05:39
marcoil pacchetto semplicemente non sia installabile, si consiglia05:39
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marcodi inviare un "bug report" per tale pacchetto.05:39
marcoLe seguenti informazioni possono aiutare a risolvere la situazione:05:39
abattoirShan`: bitchx in a terminal doesn't work?05:39
marcoI seguenti pacchetti hanno dipendenze non soddisfatte:05:40
marco  openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb: Dipende: openoffice.org-common (>= 2.0.3) ma 2.0.2-2ubuntu12.1 sta per essere installato oppure05:40
abattoir!paste | marco05:40
ubotumarco: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:40
marco                                      language-support-en ma non sta per essere installato05:40
Shan`jeroenvrp sudo /etc/init.d kdm stop = command not found05:40
dude_abattoir: every time i run an application05:40
marco                             Va in conflitto: openoffice.org-core (< 2.0.3) ma 2.0.2-2ubuntu12.1 sta per essere installato05:40
marco  openoffice.org-l10n-en-us: Dipende: openoffice.org-common (>= 2.0.3) ma 2.0.2-2ubuntu12.1 sta per essere installato oppure05:40
marco                                      language-support-en ma non sta per essere installato05:40
marco                             Va in conflitto: openoffice.org-core (< 2.0.3) ma 2.0.2-2ubuntu12.1 sta per essere installato05:40
marco  openoffice.org-l10n-en-za: Dipende: openoffice.org-common (>= 2.0.3) ma 2.0.2-2ubuntu12.1 sta per essere installato oppure05:40
marco                                      language-support-en ma non sta per essere installato05:40
marco                             Va in conflitto: openoffice.org-core (< 2.0.3) ma 2.0.2-2ubuntu12.1 sta per essere installato05:40
marco  openoffice.org-l10n-ko: Va in conflitto: openoffice.org-core (< 2.0.3) ma 2.0.2-2ubuntu12.1 sta per essere installato05:40
abattoirShan`: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop05:40
marcoE: Pacchetto non integro05:40
abattoir!ops05:40
ubotuHelp! Riddell, fdoving, Mez, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind or trappist05:40
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apokryphosmarco: please do not paste in the channel, use a pastebin service.05:40
abattoirmarco: please don't paste here05:40
jeroenvrpShan`: when you do a ls /etc/init.d > is there something there05:41
marcook, sorry05:41
marcowhere u want me to paste it05:41
Hawkwindabattoir: Sorry, just walked up to the computer05:41
apokryphos!pastebin05:41
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:41
abattoirShan`: there is no space b/w init.d and kdm, there is a /05:41
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Hawkwindmarco: pastebin05:41
marcoI can give u my hotmail account so we can chat there05:41
dude_abattoir: every time i run an application, i get this error, i already fixed 168 an 169 error: "/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 : : No such file or directory, QLayout "unnamed" added to QWidget "unnamed", which already has a layout05:41
abattoirHawkwind: no problem, he wasn't causing any trouble, but was flooding a lot :(05:41
marcodon't know how to use pastebin05:41
Shan`kk05:41
marco:(05:41
apokryphosmarco: go to the link above05:42
apokryphospost your paste there, and then produce the link in here05:42
Shan`thanx abattoir05:42
tellerabattoir: ok, I'll make do with FF in the meantime, thanks05:42
abattoirdude_: where do you get that?05:42
abattoirteller: ok :(05:42
dude_abattoir: every time i run an application in the console05:42
abattoirdude_: hmm, it could be harmless... did you get those before?05:43
marcook, pasted...and now?05:43
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abattoirmarco: give the link here05:43
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abattoirmarco: and most probably, few of us would understand it05:43
marcohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30285/05:43
marcoI can translate for u05:43
dude_abattoir: just a few days ago05:43
marcoI am deeply sorry with everybody, I didn't know about pastebin.... :( excuse me...05:44
abattoirmarco: no problem :)05:44
marcothx05:44
abattoirdude_: you can ignore it if it isn't causing any issues05:44
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Hawkwindmarco: No worries.  We all did it at some point and didn't know either.  Now you know :)05:45
dude_abattoir: ok,05:45
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dude_abattoir: it just annoys me.. :)05:45
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abattoirdude_: try running amarok in a terminal ;)05:45
noelvisagiehello all05:45
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dude_abattoir: no error05:46
abattoirdude_: no, i meant the flood of output you get ;)05:46
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dude_abattoir: when i run amarok, there's no error but when i run kaffeine, it gives me that message05:47
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fsalut05:48
fhi05:48
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fi just installed kubuntu on a computer of a friend, i can't get amarok playing music05:48
abattoirdude_: just checked, i get it too, so it's either a problem w/ the packaging, or w/ the coding, i suspect the latter... not much you can do ;)05:49
abattoirf: mp3?05:49
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georgebmarco: there's a problem with the repo; on the cd you have version 2.0.2: openoffice.org-l10n-en-gb: Dipende: openoffice.org-common (>= 2.0.3) ma 2.0.2-2ubuntu12.105:49
josh_!grub05:49
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto05:49
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marcoso? what I have to do?05:49
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abattoirf: or any music at all?05:49
fok forgot, now we have sound...05:49
dude_abattoir: i'll just close my eyes everytime i run kaffeine hehehe : )05:49
fbut we haven't mp305:49
marcoany solution dor that?05:50
georgebmarco: use the pastebin to paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list ; you should setup a online repository05:50
abattoirdude_: or run it from a menu, katapult is nice :)05:50
georgebmarco: in the repos there is version 2.0.4 of OOo05:50
georgeb!repo05:50
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:50
fi installed dapper, how can i get amarok playing mp3s ?05:51
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dude_abattoir: katapult? how do i use that?05:51
Hawkwind!mp3 | MsK`05:51
ubotuMsK`: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:51
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abattoirMsK`: enable universe/multiverse, and get libxine-extracodecs05:52
MsK`ok05:52
abattoirMsK`: ^^^follow those links05:52
abattoirdude_: hit Alt+Space05:52
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abattoir!katapult | dude_05:52
ubotudude_: katapult is the new application launcher for KDE, to be used with applications, bookmarks, and Amarok playlists. Once you have installed, hit Alt+f2 -> katapult, then hit Alt+Space, and type what you want.05:52
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marcook nearly done05:54
marcohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30286/05:54
dude_abattoir: when i hit alt+f2 it show a run command, so what is the purpose of alt+space?05:54
arriesp_bye people, go jogging05:55
abattoirdude_: it's a more 'friendly' and better-looking replacement05:55
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abattoirdude_: and Alt+F2 can't do amarok playlists ;)05:55
Shan`i'm trying to install NVidia drivers and its     giving an error Unable to find          "ld"05:55
Shan`??05:56
dude_abattoir: alt+space?05:56
abattoirdude_: yes, katapult05:56
georgebmarco: so, you're on dapper ?05:56
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dude_abattoir: just shows the logo of katapult05:56
marcoyes05:56
Shan`anyone?05:56
abattoirdude_: type something, kaffeine, for eg.05:56
Raul12i have .deb files in a the apt folder how to install them all at a time ...... ????05:57
marcoactually I don't care to have the extra mega newest version of openoffice05:57
marcobefore I had the 2.0.3 and it was perfect for me05:57
marcoI just want it back again05:57
marcoeven 2.0.2 or 2.0.4 are ok05:57
marcoI mean05:57
marcoI just need openoffice05:57
dude_abattoir: ohhh, thats nice....cool, alt+f2 and alt+space are almost the same05:57
Raul12is it  dpkg -i <folder name> *.*.deb    ?????05:58
abattoirdude_: you can perform calculations too05:58
marcoI have lotsa very important documents i cannot read now05:58
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dude_abattoir: in katapult?05:59
Raul12pls help ...05:59
xunixnice katapult :D05:59
abattoirRaul12: 'sudo dpkg -i *.deb' doesn't wok?05:59
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abattoir*work05:59
dude_abattoir: that was cool !05:59
abattoirdude_: in both, actually05:59
marcoI have just downloaded the .tar files of openoffice 2.0.405:59
marcoI can download the 2.0.305:59
Raul12k05:59
Raul12tryin that05:59
marcobut pls tell me how to make it work and install05:59
dude_abattoir: life is easy ... hehehe06:00
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dude_abattoir: is there a luncher for mp3's? : )06:01
abattoirdude_: thank Mez, the next time you see him here, he'll appreciate it06:01
Raul12ya06:01
abattoirdude_: sure, katapult does that as well06:01
Raul12amarok06:01
abattoirdude_: try entering the name of a playlist/song06:01
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dude_abattoir: really?06:01
dude_abattoir: ok, i'll try06:01
abattoirdude_: tbh, it's not very consistent here, but it works06:01
abattoirdude_: http://wiki.thekatapult.org.uk/Home should give you more info06:01
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loranGRUB hard disk error after install...what to do?06:04
georgebmarco: do you have any files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ?06:04
MsK`in amarok, xine tells us that it cannot initialize audio device/driver, but when i told you that before, it started playing, dunno why...06:05
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georgebmarco: also, comment the first line (the one with cd-rom) from /etc/apt/sources.list by putting a # as the first character on the line06:06
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MsK`no idea to solve that ? :/06:07
marcono files in that directory06:07
georgebmarco: ok, now comment the line with cdrom; and run sudo apt-get update06:08
georgebmarco: and paste the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/06:08
marcook done06:08
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georgebmarco: also paste the output from dpkg -l openoffice*06:10
loranGRUB hard disk error after install..does anyone know how to solve this problem?06:10
mc__|umbauenhow to tell apollon which ports to use?06:10
marcohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30289/06:10
dude_abattoir: it seems that its not working06:10
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dude_abattoir: you mean to say, i can lunch a song in katapult?06:12
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marcohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30290/06:12
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binarystarhi06:14
dude_abattoir: you there?06:15
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loranis this moral support or technical support?06:16
georgebmarco: try sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org and sudo apt-get check and paste the output06:16
BluesKajppl here do their best ... mostly software support06:16
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dude_abattoir: are you busy?06:16
marcohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30291/06:18
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yacoobAll flash movies have a/v desynchronization. Is this a known bug?06:19
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TehUnii used mdadm to create a raid1 array and it worked perfectly. then i rebooted and the set is gone! i've tried remounting it but it said md0 doesn't exist. how can i make it persist through reboots? (not my boot drive, btw)06:20
georgebmarco: you have half of openoffice installed :) open adept-manager and remove all installed packages starting with openoffice.org ; then install it again06:20
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marcoI tried06:21
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georgebmarco: I think there's a package that is not compatible with the new version and this is why you can't install it; ie: Korean help for OpenOffice.org06:21
marcobut it makes an error06:21
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marcoI cannot uninstall it from adept06:21
marcoit says there is an error06:22
BluesKajbroken pkgs?06:22
marcocan I uninstall it from konsole?06:22
neosa-chrisya06:22
marcohow?06:22
neosa-chrissudo apt-get remove openoffice2 or somethin like that06:22
soulriderhi everyone06:23
neosa-chrissup06:23
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pacoumarco: i had to remove the language packages (openoffice-l10n*) first, to be able to remove openofficeee06:23
soulrideris it me or there havnt been any updates for edgy sicne it was rleeased ?06:23
pacou-ee06:23
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neosa-chrisnaw there are06:23
neosa-chrisgo into system06:23
georgebmarco: you can try sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-l10n*06:23
neosa-chrisadministration06:23
neosa-chrissofware sources06:23
neosa-chrisand check all the boxes06:24
neosa-chrisyou'll get a few new updates06:24
soulrideri do sudo apt-get update and i dont get any updates06:24
neosa-chris:-)06:24
soulriderand yes, multiverse and universe is enabled :P06:24
neosa-chrisnaw sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:24
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marcother is an openoffice directory with 4 dictionary files on in my /etc/ directory ...have I got to remove it?06:24
caurohey got a question about skype, mi micro does not seem to work with skype06:24
georgebmarco: also sudo apt-get remove openoffice.org-help*06:24
soulriderfirst i gotta update to see if there are any06:24
cauroanyone know why?06:24
tictricHi, in edgy mounting of usb-sticks doesn't work like it did in dapper any longer. Even though I gave it a different mountpoint under properties -> mountpoint it06:24
soulriderthen dist-upgrade06:24
soulridertictric: works for me =/06:24
tictricit's using it's own joice of name06:24
georgebmarco: nope.. they are managed by apt-get06:24
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tictricsoulrider: I want it to mount as /media/fred but it keeps mounting as /media/usbdisk06:25
soulrideruhm06:25
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soulridermaybe you need to add it to fstab06:25
soulriderim not sure06:25
soulrideror06:25
marcook I am trying06:25
soulrideryou can unmount it manually06:25
soulriderand mount it manually06:26
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soulriderthen maybe it will get auto mounted to /media/fred06:26
marcoI have similar directories in usr/lib/ and usr/share/fonts06:26
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marcook it removed these files...06:27
marconow?06:27
georgebmarco: don't worry about those directories; the files from there are managed by apt-get06:27
georgebmarco: try sudo apt-get install openoffice.org again06:27
marcook, the files have been removed!06:27
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loranso one more time..GRUB hard disk error after install..anyone know how to install this?06:27
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marcook...let's see..06:28
georgebloran: what exactly is the error ?06:28
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Wan_Stillerhello06:28
loranGRUB hard disk error before boot06:28
soulriderloran:06:28
neosa-chrisloran: whats your real error06:28
soulrideri can help you i think06:28
marcook in 8 minutes I will be able to tell u if it worked06:28
marco:)06:28
marcohope so06:28
loranreal?06:28
soulriderloran: tell em mor aobut your error06:29
Wan_Stilleri have a problem with an ati mobility radeon 970006:29
soulriderwhen do you get it, when trying to select an OS from GRUB ?06:29
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lorani installed kbuntu edgy from the live cd06:29
Wan_Stilleri have followed the istructions on the wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI06:29
neosa-chriswan_stiller: doesn't everyone06:29
soulriderand you dont geta  grub ?06:29
neosa-chrislol06:29
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lorannot really technically savvy visa vis the terminology here yet06:29
Wan_Stillerbut fglrxinfo still recognize the video card as an OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org06:30
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neosa-chriswanstiller: ATI is terribly not supported well...06:30
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Wan_Stillerneosa-chris: i know... but on suse 10.1 it works well06:30
Trollinatorthat's because Suse is just a better Distro than kubuntu...06:31
neosa-chriswan_stiller: hmm...06:31
neosa-chris:-(06:31
TFrogi tend to disagree Trollinator06:31
Wan_Stillerneosa-chris: there's something i have forgotten to do06:31
soulriderTrollinator: i tried both06:31
soulrideri prefer kubuntu06:31
neosa-chrisI dislike strongly configuring an ATI.06:31
Wan_Stilleri have installed the binary drivers06:31
neosa-chrissudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf06:31
TFrogsoulrider, i've tried Suse, Fedora Core, and Kubuntu.  i'll stick with Kubuntu06:31
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georgebloran: http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html This error message will occur if the Stage 2 or Stage 1.5 is being read from a hard disk, and the attempt to determine the size and geometry of the hard disk fails.06:32
BluesKaji beg to differ ..suse Yast sucks as a repos sytem ...breaks pkgs all over the place ...I switched to kubuntu due to the poor hardware recognition as well06:32
dude_abattoir: are you busy?06:32
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soulriderBluesKaj: i second the Yast statement :P06:32
georgebloran: also I saw a post where somebody said it solved this by a bios upgrade06:32
neosa-chrisDid you change your driver when you installed?06:32
TrollinatorBluesKaj: most Suse folks use smart pm since Suse 10.106:32
georgebloran: do you know what motherboard model do you have ?06:32
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Trollinatoryes, Zen really sucks, i must admit that, but it'snot a problem because of smart06:32
loranmotherboard = asus p4b26606:33
Trollinatorthe only reason i'm still using kubuntu is that i haven't yet had the time to switch over to Suse.06:33
zorglu_q. what are the available software to capture the screen in order to do screencast06:33
neosa-chrisi <3 asus mobo's06:33
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BluesKajwell them Trollinator , why are you here ...go and have fun fixing yer Suse 10.1 , which i tried.06:33
soulrideryeah06:33
TFroglol BluesKaj06:33
neosa-chriswhy are you in a ubuntu IRC trying to fix a suse problem?06:33
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TrollinatorI don't have time right now to do that..06:34
BluesKajSuse 10.1.2.3.4 ...no matter ...til they fix the repos .... it won't fly06:34
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TFrogBluesKaj, i don't think i'll go back to Suse.  not enough software choices in repos.  seems the same with Fedora Core06:35
TrollinatorBluesKaj: what's wrong with their repos?06:35
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TrollinatorTFrog: Ubuntu doesn't have enough software either.06:35
marcogeorgeb: thanks a lot06:35
marconow I have it06:35
neosa-chrisreally... screw rpm based OS's06:35
neosa-chrisseriously... i'll only touch Debian based + Gentoo06:35
TFrogwith over 20k packages in repos i beg to differ Trollinator06:35
Trollinatorneosa-chris: have you tried smartpm?06:35
marcoreally thanks06:35
neosa-chrisnaw06:36
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TrollinatorTFrog: numbers are worthless. it doesn't have the software i need.06:36
georgebloran: http://www.mepis.org/node/2773   two guys with Asus P4B MB with this problem solved by BIOS upgrade06:36
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georgebmarco: no problem06:36
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BluesKajTrollinator, is just here to be a shit disturber ...ignore him!06:36
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TFrogwell that's a matter of choice too.  there's still software out there i have to compile or use "alien" on to get it to work correctly in Kubuntu.06:37
marcogeorgeb: really, I owe u a lot06:37
Trollinatorsee....06:37
neosa-chrishaha now now.. he's a Linux user. Just ignore him06:37
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loranthank you...checking those links now06:37
marcoI go now06:37
neosa-chrisINSTALL UBUNTU,Kubuntu,Or Xubuntu !06:37
marcothanks and bye06:37
georgebmarco: ok, bye06:37
neosa-chrissee ya06:37
Trollinatorsuse is also a lot faster on my machine, don't know why06:38
manulitedoes anyone here know if IBM Rational Application Developer will run on kubuntu?06:38
TFrogneosa-chris, i haven't used Gentoo yet.  but been debating on it.  still can't figure out the install for FreeBSD or i'd try it as well06:38
Trollinatorand YaST is sooo comfortable.06:38
Shan`trying to install nvidia drivers06:38
Shan`it gives me this error06:38
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Shan`"You appear to be using Xorg release, but but nvidia-installer could not find pkg-config"06:38
neosa-chrisTFrog: Gentoo used to be terrific.. but after a year of Gentoo i realize that Ubuntu "JUST WORKS" after Dapper06:39
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Trollinatorsudo aptitude reinstall pkg-config06:39
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Ahmuck!quicktime06:39
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:39
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Trollinatoractually it doesn't "just work". Setting up PPPoE is much easier with ubuntu06:40
Trollinatorum, with suse i mean06:40
dennisterhi again all06:40
TFroglol neosa-chris.  i tend to agree.  just a shame they haven't got ndiswrapper fixed in Edgy.  though i was able to compile it and get it working.  ocassionally i still get a DCOP popup instead of KDEwallet to popup when connecting to my network06:40
HawkwindTrollinator: Maybe you should take all of this SuSe chat to #SuSe instead of here please06:40
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dennisterso i'm once again downloading the server: edgy i386 this time06:40
dennisterhi Hawkwind :)06:41
georgebTrollinator: just wondering, how did you setup pppoe on ubuntu ?06:41
HawkwindHey there dennister06:41
neosa-chrisTFrog: Haha.. Ndiswrapper is garbage period... they are reallyyyy slow in development right now.. cuz most cards are... "just supported"06:41
claudiushi, does anyone know how i get the /lib/modules/*/build directory?06:41
Trollinatori didn't, i have a router. Try pppoeconf on the console06:41
eilkerdennister: you may help many problems...as i had...06:41
eilkerdennister: you may have many problems...as i had...06:41
Trollinator(you can do this graphically on Suse with YaST)06:42
georgebTrollinator: lol, did that, but I was wondering if there is one easy, "true" way06:42
dennistereven with the new stable release?06:42
TFrogneosa-chris, i'm not surprised.  however the so called "native drivers" for Broadcom are just another dirty hack.  you still have to use the windows driver to extract the firmware and you don't gett wireless G out of it06:42
eilkerdennister: i suggest you to wait some more days...06:42
Trollinatorgeorgeb: there isn't on ubuntu. Ubuntu doesn't ship _any_ utilities to make administration easier06:42
dennisterpls don't tell me that! i'm at my wits end trying to solve problems with every other distro i've tried06:42
Trollinatorwhich is why it's not actually very user friendly06:43
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eilkerdennister: some people have no problems, some have big problems, some people have some small problem, i hope you dont have any problem06:43
neosa-chrisTFrog: If you even have a B or A Linksys or Cicso wireless card lieing around... they work PERFECT in linux06:44
TFrogunfortunately i don't.  my laptop came with the Broadcom chipset06:44
eilkerdennister: check ubuntu forums for that...there was a vote for it06:44
B-Minushey all06:44
neosa-chrisoh man thats strange06:44
B-Minusi remember using a program to create a sources.list for you, but i dont remember the name06:44
TFrogneosa-chris, have you been reading up on "devicescape"06:45
B-Minusdoes anyone know ? :s06:45
HawkwindB-Minus: easyubuntu ?06:45
B-Minusno it was another06:45
dennisterwell i certainly can't use my current distro...tried ubuntu server dapper on 64, with kubuntu desktop (couldn't get ivtv drivers 4 going) tried a couple other distros with ivtvdrivers pre-compiled, they don't work with my graphics card...06:45
Hawkwind!easyubuntu | B-Minus06:45
ubotuB-Minus: easyubuntu is easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/  -  For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu06:45
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B-Minusi used it in gentoo06:45
HawkwindB-Minus: automatix ?06:45
johan12345iis there a guide for how to install xgl on kubuntu edgy?06:45
neosa-chrisyup06:45
Hawkwind!xgl | johan12345i06:45
ubotujohan12345i: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems06:45
neosa-chrisgood ones too06:46
dennisteri end up spending days or weeks with each attempt, to no avail06:46
Trollinatorjohan12345i: do you have an ATi card?06:46
B-MinusHawkwind: no :s06:46
neosa-chrisInstall Beryl and Emerald06:46
neosa-chrisits better06:46
neosa-chrislol06:46
TFrogit sounds nice neosa-chris.  however will the manufacturers work with it if it's deployed in the linux kernel06:46
Hawkwind!beryl | johan12345i06:46
ubotujohan12345i: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.06:46
johan12345ioh yeah i forgot. is there a guide for how to install xgl on kubuntu edgy with an nvidia card?06:46
Trollinatorjohan12345i: it's not a good idea to use Xgl with an nVidia card06:47
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neosa-chrisTFrog: The manufacturers 90% of the itme dont' make the drivers... Linux users do.. thats why their slow as balls06:47
georgebjohan12345i: what Hawkwind is trying to tell you is that you would have more success with Xgl questions on #ubuntu-xgl06:47
B-MinusFailed to fetch http://be.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/j/java-common/java-common_0.25ubuntu1_all.deb  404 Not Found06:47
neosa-chriswell maybe a lil better then that.. idk..06:47
apokryphoshuh? NVidia's are better supported for xgl than any other card06:47
Trollinatorjust get the latest Beta driver from ftp://download.nvidia.com and use X.org 7.106:47
B-Minus:(06:47
B-Minusso there is somehting worng ?06:47
B-Minuswrong06:47
johan12345iTrollinator: really? i though xgl was made for nvidia06:47
Hawkwindjohan12345i: I just gave you all the info06:47
TFrogi agree neosa-chris.  problem is Broadcom is too damn protective of their so called "intellectual property"06:48
B-Minuscan anyone ping http://be.archive.ubuntu.com ?06:48
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johan12345iokej thanks Hawkwind06:48
B-Minusits down :s06:48
Trollinatorthe only reason i'm still using kubuntu is that i haven't yet had the time to06:48
TFrogi wonder if i could go through the freedom of information act and the FCC to get info on their cards.  lol06:48
Trollinatorups06:48
Trollinatorsorry06:48
Trollinator5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4001ms06:49
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dennisterHawkwind: when u have a minute?06:49
neosa-chrisTFrog: Uhm... I really think that my friend was using Edgy on his laptop... and it "just worked"06:49
neosa-chriswith his broadband card06:49
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Hawkwinddennister: What's up ?06:49
neosa-chrisIs your version of Edgy a beta or somethign? cuz the released version is what we isntalled on his comp06:49
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dennisteri'm being warned off the edgy i386...he says i may have big problems?06:50
TFrogyeah neosa-chris.  i'm on a Compaq R4125US laptop right now.  had it working with the "native drivers" once till an update for Edgy broke it.  then waited till the release candidate and tried ndiswrapper again.  it works with minimal fuss06:50
Hawkwinddennister: Very possible.  Some do, some don't.  Each system is different06:50
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dennisterthat's the problem; everything else i've tried also gives me insurmountable problems06:51
Hawkwinddennister: I'm still on Dapper myself and probably won't upgrade to Edgy for a few more weeks yet06:51
dennisterdapper i386 or 64?06:52
neosa-chrisTFrog: haha i think your going to have to just kinda accept that for a while.... I have a feeling all the developers are taking a lil break.. seeing they did a ton of work towards edgy in a lil time06:52
eilkerhawkwind: i was not intelligent like you....and now my system is crying...06:52
TFrogno doubt neosa-chris.  maybe we'll see some more new stuff with the next release06:52
Hawkwinddennister: i386.  I won't own a 64bit system for atleast another 18 months.  Things are just too unstable with 64Bit still.  Best to stick with a 32bit OS06:52
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dennisteryes, at least there aren't java probs with 38606:53
thomas__hi06:53
eilkerdennister: check official explanations pls, and there is a debconf bug06:53
TFrogonly beef i got with this laptop i'm typing on is the broken ATI drivers that haven't been fixed in a year or i'd be running more eye candy just to see if i like it06:53
Hawkwinddennister: I highly recommend that even if you have a 64Bit system, to install and run the 32bit OS.  You will be a lot better off06:53
thomas__have problem with edgy and ipw3945 since i reinstalled. could anybody help ? the module is loadet correctly06:53
neosa-chrisTFrogP: I'm leaving now.. but good luck.. if you need anymore help; from me i have a website... www.neosa.chrismacc.com its still in development06:53
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dennisteryes, that's a firm decision: i38606:54
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TFrogi second that Hawkwind.  i'm on a 64 bit laptop and chose the 32 bit version.  less problems06:54
h3sp4wnI would use a 64bit os on a 64bit chip06:54
TFrogh3sp4wn, too many apps still are not moving to 64bit.  it's why i stay with 3206:55
h3sp4wnTFrog: You can use schroot (or just build against ia32-libs-*06:55
dennisterubuntu server dapper/edgy i386 + kubuntu-desktop i386 * appropriate ivtv drivers for kernel + mythtv06:55
HawkwindIf you don't do serious number crunching, making movies and have 4GB of RAM, the 64Bit OS doesn't really benefit you as most people think it does.  You'll get some speed increase, but not as much as the system is designed for06:55
h3sp4wnYou can also use a 64 bit kernel with a 32 bit userland06:56
dennisteri was making original dvd movies06:56
HawkwindMost everyday users don't want to deal with chroot and build against ia32-libs.  They just want to install the 64Bit OS and have it work.  That's not possible right now06:56
TFrogagreed Hawkwind.  plus most software still doesn't fully exploit 32 bit yet.  very few programs indeed use multithreading06:56
dennisterbut i'm done that now06:57
HawkwindIt's just like with everything else in the computer world......newest isn't fully supported for a couple of years or so and takes time to mature06:57
HawkwindIf you want something that works pretty much completely, use what's been around for years until the new stuff has been around for a few years06:58
h3sp4wnIts only a small hassle to build the few 32 bit apps you want against the 32bit libs06:58
h3sp4wnMost oss apps (or at least any that work on alpha) have been 64 bit ready for along time06:58
dennisterok, well server-edgy-i386 is downloaded now...i might as well try it...the prob was the ivtv drivers with dapper, and ivtv drivers really want to see upgraded kernels06:58
dennisterif it doesn't work, it doesn't work06:59
HawkwindAgain, most everyday normal users don't want to deal with that.  They just want to install the OS and have it work.  That's not possible with a 64Bit system06:59
Trollinatorso? there still is no point in 64 bit processors if you don't have >2GB of RAM06:59
dennisterand i've been forewarned :)06:59
thomas__can anybody help me plz with ipw3945 ? knetworkmanager doesnt give the option of wireless, after a fresh install of edgy in /etc/network/interfaces there was no eth1, at the last installation it was ther .. but ipw3945 is loadet correctly and dmesg fount the intel wireless chip06:59
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TFrogactually Trollinator it's not ram.  most developers haven't written multithreaded software yet.  especially not the game developers07:00
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TrollinatorTFrog: multicore CPU have nothing to do with 64 Bit07:00
TrollinatorCPUs*07:00
zorglu_threading is dangerious when coding07:00
TFrogahhhhhhhhh but it does do a lot with multithreading07:00
georgebTFrog: but you can do some interesting stuff on multi-cpu; such as binding all your programs on one CPU, and the game on another ;-)07:00
zorglu_way too hard :)07:01
TFrogtis true georgeb07:01
thomas__nobody wants to help ?07:01
eilkerpeople i am gonna buy a multi functional(it could be only laser too) printer, could you pls suggest me some printers which has no problem with kubuntu ?07:01
Trollinatorzorglu_: well, it's difficult...07:01
zorglu_thomas__: or more 'dont know how' :)07:01
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Trollinatoreilker: www.linuxprinting.org07:01
TFrognow if i go multicore or multiple cpus then i'll be doing more graphics and video editing as well as other single threaded tasks at the same time07:01
thomas__hmm this could be too07:01
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eilkerTrollinator:thanx07:02
TFrogeilker, i use an old HP PSC1210 scanner/printer.  works fine with gimp and quietsane07:02
TrollinatorThe vast majority of Laser Printers uses PCL or PostScript, so there shouldn't be a problem07:02
georgebTrollinator: it's about 4 GB RAM; on 32 bits you can address up to 4G (4*1024*1024*1024); if you want to use more than 4 GB in a 32bit computer, there is PAE (physical address extension) which allows you to use more than 4 GB, but this comes with extra CPU usage for extra-addressing, also one app still can't address more than 3.something GB ram07:03
eilkertfrog: it also has no problem with windows too ,right?07:03
TFrogexactly georgeb07:03
h3sp4wnTrollinator: (cross) Compiling is faster in 64 bit mode07:03
Trollinatorhow much? 10%?07:04
TFrogyes eilker.  it's an inkjet and it has no issues with windows or linux and i've used it on various distro's of linux07:04
Trollinatoror even 20%?07:04
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johan12345ihow do i add a session in kde?07:05
georgebTrollinator: an advantage of 64bit is that the CPU can transfer more info in one go; but this isn't usefull for most usual apps07:05
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lozubotu: how do i install s video on ubuntu edgy eft?07:05
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about how do i install s video on ubuntu edgy eft? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:05
georgebjohan12345i: Kmenu -> Switch users ?07:05
Trollinatorgeorgeb: i know the theoretical advantages. However, for now there's hardly any point07:06
TehUnican anyone help me setup raid 1 using mdadm? i have 3 drives.. 1 for boot and /, and 2 others for storage. i want those 2 in raid1.07:06
lozubotu: svideo on ubuntu 6:1007:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about svideo on ubuntu 6:10 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:06
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dennisterwith my current distro, i still have room for additional partitions, home and an xfs/video partition for media storage are separate; can i re-use the /home and /video partitions with the ubuntu server?07:06
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lozubotu:botsnack07:07
ubotuYum!07:07
dennisteri'd really like the kubuntu grub to overwrite the other grub anyway07:07
johan12345igeogreb: add a session not change session07:08
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dennisterkubuntu grub is much better than other distros, as it finds other OS (like windoze) on other drives and u don't even have to 'fool windoze'07:08
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Trollinatorevery grub does that by now07:09
ubuntuhi07:09
ubuntuI have a big problem07:09
dennistermy current one doesn't07:09
Trollinatorubuntu: you nickname you mean?07:09
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h3sp4wndennister: It is configured wrong then07:09
zorglu_!ask07:10
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)07:10
georgebjohan12345i: what do you understan by adding a session ? having another kde running at the same time with a different user ?07:10
Trollinatorseriously, why do people call themselves "ubuntu"?07:10
ubuntuI have upgraded to Edgy, and now I don't have X server07:10
dennisterwell, it'll be overwritten soon :)07:10
ubuntuI will change it later07:10
CVirusTrollinator: they dont .. its just the IRC client that has the default nickname ubuntu07:10
ubuntunow I am on live CD07:10
johan12345igeogreb: no. add a session, so i can log in to that one later07:10
Trollinatori already feel jackass enough when i say ubuntu07:10
Trollinatorubuntu: tell us the error messages07:11
ubuntuok07:11
ubuntuwhat I remember :)07:11
h3sp4wnubuntu: /nick newnick07:11
ubuntuConnection refused (errno 111)07:11
johan12345igeogreb: add a new session to session-startup. like u can change between failsafe and kde. but i have one more, i want to add in the session-mannager07:11
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B-Minushmm07:12
stamenunable to connect to X server07:12
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dennisterok pps...here goes nothin :)07:12
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dennisterbbl07:12
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georgebjohan12345i: oh.. i don't know how/if you can do that07:12
stamenno such process (errno 3): Server error07:12
stamenso waht to do07:12
Trollinatorstamen: please mount your hard disk and publish your /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere07:12
stamenxserver-xorg is rc07:12
B-Minusi cant run adept-manager anymore, it says : you will not be able to change your system settings .... because the db is in use by another app ... aptitude or aptget arent running07:12
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stamenok07:13
johan12345igeogreb: i know how to change it in gnome, but not kde07:13
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stamenTrollinator: I will publish the log file07:13
h3sp4wnjohan12345i: write a .desktop file07:13
stamenTrollinator: but I can't download the latest xorg server and nvidia-glx07:13
johan12345ih3sp4wn: where should i put it?07:14
stamenTrollinator: how to download them?07:14
stamenfirst07:14
lozhello to all, can anyone give me a link for installing the s video for watching films via my tv.? cheers07:14
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h3sp4wnjohan12345i: findout where kde.desktop is and put it in the same place (same syntax) I don't use kdm so I don't know where it is off the top of my head07:14
johan12345iokej thanks!!07:14
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stamenTrollinator: are you there07:15
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lupine_85 /usr/share/xsessions07:15
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Trollinatorno, i'm not there07:16
stamen:)07:16
stamentell me how to download normal x server and nvidia-glx07:17
OODstamen: you're running an x server right now07:17
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sybuxHi, I'm ugrading to edgy and during the installation of the new package, time to time I got the following error message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30299/07:18
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Shan`how do I mount my cdrom?07:18
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Dark_Vampire!de07:19
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de07:19
Shan`it asks for a fs type07:19
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Shan`guys07:19
stamenfs type is iso966007:19
georgebShan`: iso966007:19
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Shan`sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0   ???07:20
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Shan`??07:21
B-Minusim trying to install java with adept manager, but during installation a blue screen with some licence agreements shows up, i cant hit the OK in that window ... anyone an idea ?07:22
Shan`that should work right? sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom007:22
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Skrot!webstart07:24
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about webstart - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:24
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georgebShan`: yes07:25
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chusohi all :)07:27
sybux!fr07:27
chusofirst of all sorry for my English07:27
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.07:27
georgebB-Minus: go to end; or press q07:27
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chusoI have a problem... since I upgraded to edgy my system is completly unstable. Xorg often crashes, usually when I run apps which have many CPU usage. So, the only way to make it stable again is restarting the system. Any idea?07:29
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B-Minusgeorgeb: i cant do anyting in that window07:30
B-Minuscant go to end07:30
sybuxHi, I'm ugrading to edgy and during the installation of the new package, time to time I got the following error message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30299/ ?07:31
georgebB-Minus: if you press "q" nothing happens ?07:31
georgebB-Minus: that window shoul behave like a terminal window07:31
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georgebsybux: it's ok, just warnings :)07:32
B-Minusgeorgeb: indeed nothing happens07:32
B-Minusit doesnt react on keyboard input07:32
B-Minus:s07:32
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sybuxgeorgeb: ok but I've so much of those I was affraid07:32
josef|caRiddell: what's the current topic in the kubuntu room?07:33
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humehi...I got a problem with kpilot and korganizer, syncing with a palm T5 - when syncing the calendar is erased on the palm - anyone knows anything about this?07:33
georgebB-Minus: just a second, I'll reinstall java07:35
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digivoredamn that upgrade really screwed me up...07:35
B-Minusgeorgeb: ok tnx07:35
B-Minusso i dont need to do anythiong ?07:35
digivorei have rebooted kubuntu fo the first time after upgrading to edgy, and now i don't get a graphical login and can't figure out how to start KDE and/or E07:36
georgebB-Minus: I reinstall java on my system to see what warning appears :)07:36
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B-Minusgeorgeb: ok tx07:36
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B-Minusits just a licence agreement or something but i cant do anything on that screen :s07:37
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sybuxdigivore: I've got the same problem with my laptop. Try to do an apt-get install xserver-xorg and restart after. It works for me07:38
B-Minusif i change my sources.list, how can i tell apt-get this ?07:39
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B-Minusapt-get update doesnt do the job07:39
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sybuxB-Minus: apt-get update07:39
lupine_85sudo apt-get update07:39
B-Minushmms07:39
lupine_85snap07:39
B-Minus:s07:39
lupine_85it should07:39
lupine_85unless you've got a malformed line in /etc/apt/sources.list of course...07:40
georgebB-Minus: I don't get that warning because I already accepted the license07:40
georgeb!java07:40
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository07:40
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TheGateKeepergeorgeb: use the cli to install java not adept07:41
B-Minusgeorgeb: damn, tnx for trying07:41
georgebTheGateKeeper: B-minus has problems with adept and java; you can't accept the license in adept ?07:42
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TheGateKeepergeorgeb: correct java needs to be install either from the cli or using synaptic where you can see what the cli is ouputing07:43
TheGateKeeperI really wish people would stop using adept!!07:43
BluesKajwhy?07:43
Trollinatorgeorgeb: you can accept the license in adept07:44
Trollinatoryou "only" have to click on the details button07:44
TheGateKeeperBluesKaj: I would have thought my comments above would have answered that question lol07:44
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BluesKajjust got back, was running some errands07:45
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sybuxHow can I remove bluetooth service ? I was using a hub but now I've removed it from my system but service still start07:45
TheGateKeeperadept re-invents the wheel & does a shit job of it!!07:46
B-Minusis it a good idea to do this : Code: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash07:46
B-Minusand answer with no07:46
B-Minusfor CLI07:46
BluesKajwhat about synaptic?07:47
TheGateKeeperBluesKaj: if you want a GUI then by all means use it, I use a combination of synaptic & apt-get depending on what I am doing07:48
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BluesKajok07:48
BluesKajI find that apt-get and dpkg and tar sometimes don't work cuz apt doesn't see the file in the home folder for some reason07:49
BluesKaji'm still confused about it works sometimes and sometimes not07:50
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BluesKajwhy07:50
TheGateKeeperhmmm can't comment never had the problem07:50
BluesKajwell , bully for you :)07:50
MetaMorfoziSin kcontrol the keyboardmapping field is empty07:51
MetaMorfoziShow can i get back that?07:51
georgebBluesKaj: what file in home folder ?07:51
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BluesKajwell this time it's quicktime07:53
georgebBluesKaj: you have a deb of quicktime in your home folder ?07:53
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felipe__Hello, is there  a way to force programs to minimize to the sistem tray?07:54
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BluesKajgeorgeb, it's a tar bz2 file07:55
georgebBluesKaj: well with apt you can manage deb packages from different repositories; if you want to install separate deb packages you have to use dpkg -i /path/to/deb07:57
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georgebBluesKaj: tar bz/gz usualy are source packages that you have to compile; unarchive the file with tar -xjvf name.tar.bz and see in the folder created if there is a README or INSTALL file07:58
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Mahmoud85Hello, Anyone using Kubuntu Screensaver with Password option? It does not ask for password here (works in Ubuntu (Gnome) though)  .. using Edgy08:00
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h3sp4wnB-Minus_: Why is that a good idea ? (sudo dpkg-reconfigure dash) I think its a completely stupid idea (and it is only affects programs that are not posix complient anyway i.e /bin/sh should act like sh not bash (/bin/sh is dash for a reason)08:03
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ubuntu!grub08:06
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto08:06
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honestHello All, just installed kubuntu for the first time on my desktop, i have the Belkin BCM4306 wireless card in the box or so it says. Under network settings it shows the card but doesnt allow me to enable it and the wireless manager only serches fopr about a second but doesnt find anything. does anyone have any ideas?08:07
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mentokstart here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=wireless&titlesearch=Titles08:09
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mentokand here is another place to search for wireless: http://ubuntuforums.org/08:10
mentokthere is a lot of info there about setting up wireless cards08:10
B-Minus_how can i install a package with apt-get even if its installed already ?08:10
sacerohi, i need a rapid suggestion: i have installed kubuntu, but what package i need to install for the music and video codec?08:10
B-Minus_with -force or something08:10
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geo_hola08:12
mentokapt-get remove package, then apt-get install package, that will remove it first08:12
mentokthen install08:12
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sacerohi, i need a rapid suggestion: i have installed kubuntu, but what package i need to install for the music and video codec?08:14
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cpk1libxine-extracodecs08:14
mentokgstreamer has a lot of codecs, which ones are you trying to install?08:14
cpk1libxine is by far the easiest to do08:15
mentokanyone try upgrading to edgy for amd64 from dapper and have Xserver problems?08:15
lupine_85mentok: my upgrade worked in beta stage#08:16
lupine_85make sure ubuntu-desktop is installed, before and after the dist-upgrade08:16
lupine_85erm. kubuntu-desktop08:16
mentoki think thats whats happening08:16
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mentoki don't have any network though so I've had to use the live cd w/ the download only option to get the packages08:16
marcohi to everybody08:17
lupine_85owie08:17
mentokyeah08:17
marcojst one simple question08:17
lupine_85download the alternate CD and use that as a repo?08:17
lupine_85!alternate08:17
ubotuThe Alternate CD (available as of Dapper) is the classical text-mode installation CD. Use it if you wish to upgrade via CD, or for an "expert" mode install. For normal installs, use the Desktop CD, which is also a "Live" CD.08:17
mentokhmm, hadn't thought of that08:17
marcoto add a cd to the repositories I just need to do apt-get cdrom add?08:17
lupine_85easier :)08:17
lupine_85marco: yes08:17
mentokdefinitly08:17
mentokthanks08:17
lupine_85erm, apt-cdrom add08:17
marcooh, that's why it didn't work!08:17
marcothx08:17
mentokcuriously, how about a chroot into my old root dir, then apt download from there?08:18
sam__hi i am a newbie just switched over from xp to kubuntu - but still have one machine for xp as i do alot of video and music editing- cant seem to get the lan connection betweeen xp and kubuntu08:18
mentoki'm guessing that dpkg --config doesn't work right, but the download should08:18
marcouh...I can't add it...08:18
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sacerocpk1: thank you08:21
marcopeople, how can I upgrade from openoffice 2.0.2 to the 2.0.3 or 2.0.4 version? Adept doesen't show any update08:22
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mentokmarco: it may not be in the repository08:22
zorglu_!samba | sam__08:22
ubotusam__: samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT08:22
lupine_85!info openoffice.org08:23
ubotuopenoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.4-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 3 kB, installed size 28 kB08:23
lupine_85it's already 2.0.408:23
mentokok08:23
lupine_85in edgy anyway08:23
zorglu_sam__: ultra wild guessing about 'lan connection' :)08:23
lupine_85!info openoffice.org dapper08:23
ubotuopenoffice.org: OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2ubuntu12.1 (dapper), package size 1 kB, installed size 24 kB (Only available for amd64 ia64)08:23
marcobut I remember I upated it to 2.0.3 somehow08:23
sacerocpk1: i dont find libxine-extracodecs some other libxine but not that...08:23
lupine_85it's in multiverse08:24
lupine_85!libxine-extracodecs08:24
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swanflcan Amarok write whatever it plays out to disk as a wav?08:24
ubotulibxine-extracodecs: the xine video/media player library, binary files. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1118 kB, installed size 2676 kB08:24
cpk1!info libxine-extracodecs08:24
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mirshafiei'm trying to connect to my nokia 7610 with a usb bluetooth dongle and kmobiletools. the problem is that i don't know what to set as mobile phone device (default is /dev/mobile). i did a hcitool scan and can find my phone, and according to bluetooth:/ it's located in "/ (sdp)", but i cannot find sdp in /, /mnt, /media or /dev. where should i look for it?08:25
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sam__ubotu: will i have to decide which is server and which is client or could i have both as server?08:27
ehirdLOL, asking ubotu questions08:27
marco....08:27
lupine_85swanfl: xmms can do that08:28
lupine_85(disk output plugin)08:28
cpk1sam__: you are connecting the 2 computers together via one ethernet cable directly connected to each?08:28
jmedI thought I'd make use of an older computer by installing kubuntu, but am completely new to this os. I am having trouble with wireless usdb adapter. Can anyone help?08:28
swanflI need the plug in to play wma files and can't find it08:28
SHRIKEEw32codecs08:29
Neolithiumswan, did you install the w32codecs?08:29
SHRIKEEin the universe08:29
SHRIKEExlib-extracodecs too08:29
zorglu_sam__: ubotu is a bot08:29
SHRIKEEuBOTu08:29
SHRIKEE:P08:29
swanflxmms won't play wma files but amarok does08:29
SHRIKEEamarok pwns08:29
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frankmyhreKaffeine cant play my wmv-video files, anyone knows why?08:30
zorglu_!codecs | frankmyhre08:30
ubotufrankmyhre: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:30
SHRIKEE!codecs08:30
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:30
SHRIKEEoh08:30
SHRIKEE:P08:30
cpk1aieee08:30
SHRIKEEalso08:30
NeolithiumI can play them in Kaffeine, I just made sure I installed all the codecs. Man I love automatix2 to make all that stuff simple.08:30
SHRIKEEhttp://www.zerohex.org/2006/04/06/ubuntu-and-wmv-support-how-to/ worked great for me08:31
frankmyhrezorglu_: I have already installed the codec08:31
cpk1because apt-get install libxine-extracodecs is so difficult...08:31
SHRIKEElol cpk108:31
zorglu_frankmyhre: except if the file is DRMed you should be able to read it08:31
sam__zorglu: did not know that as i say i am a newbie - to kubuntu as will as irc never needed it before08:32
swanflyes I have the win32codecs08:32
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swanflI installed them manually08:32
cpk1i dont get it, people think automatix saves trouble and time when in the time it takes to get automatix I can have my sources.list ready08:32
marcosorry again...to add the cd to the repositories I must type apt-get cdrom?08:33
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marcoor apt-get cdom add?08:33
SHRIKEEautomatix is that installer ap, right?08:33
SHRIKEEto make things  'easy'08:33
SHRIKEE!automatix08:33
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.08:33
Hawkwind!automatix | SHRIKEE08:33
ubotuSHRIKEE: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.08:33
SHRIKEElol08:33
SHRIKEEi read a page about it on the wiki08:34
mentokthe bot speaks again08:34
SHRIKEEdidnt like it08:34
mentokdoes the bot have super cow powers?08:34
marcohow to add the cdrom to the repositories?08:34
SHRIKEEmarco, go to adept, click view > repositories08:34
SHRIKEEand add it there08:34
SHRIKEEsave08:34
SHRIKEErefresh the list and go08:34
SHRIKEE:P08:34
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marcoyes, but how to add it, I mean, I just type cdrom instead of deb and leave the rest blank?08:35
SHRIKEEhmm its already there i believe08:35
SHRIKEEbut commented out08:35
marcono, I am looking in my reps, no cdrom there08:35
sacerolupine_85: "it's in multiverse" in source.list?08:35
marcoso I must add it manually08:35
SHRIKEEah,08:35
lupine_85is what in multiverse?08:36
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lupine_85oh, got you. Yes you need to add multiverse to /etc/apt/sources.list08:37
marcoit is apt-cdrom add08:37
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sacerolupine_85 it is as main and universe? Tank you very much!08:38
sam__cpk1: no i have a router + 4 port hub - router is set as server08:38
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lupine_85main restricted universe multiverse08:40
lalohi08:41
lalohello everybody08:41
lupine_85'ko08:41
lupine_85'lo*08:41
lalocan so help me?08:41
zorglu_!nicktab | sam__08:41
ubotusam__: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.08:41
lupine_85!helpme08:41
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:41
laloi am new on kubuntu and it is good08:41
lalobut/...08:41
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Lerneaen_Hydrais it strange if the included VNC server is very laggy over LAN (sub 1ms ping, 100mbit)?08:41
laloi just can play AVI files08:41
laloneither in windows08:41
laloand not on kubuntu08:42
zorglu_Lerneaen_Hydra: yep it is weird08:42
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lalowhy?08:42
Lerneaen_HydraI seem to get only around 3-4fps and lots of redraw latency08:42
lupine_85codec issue?08:42
lupine_85!codecs08:42
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:42
h3sp4wnLerneaen_Hydra: Much better to use either x-forwarding and something like exceed (if you are on windows) or freenx08:42
lupine_85try some of that and see if it helps08:42
Lerneaen_Hydrazorglu_: is there any other set-it-and-forget-it package you know of (prefferably in some apt repository)?08:42
kamalHI Every body http://www.e-partage.com08:43
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lupine_85...08:43
laloi have realplayer, and other of the best video players and nothing08:43
lupine_85it works here...08:43
laloi have already read that info08:43
lupine_85what codecs have you installed, if nay?08:43
lupine_85any*08:43
zorglu_Lerneaen_Hydra: hmm nope. i would not even qualify vnc of that :)08:43
laloand nothing happens08:43
Lerneaen_HydraI've used x-forwarding over SSH to an extent, but if I want to control the entire system in a window without child apps spilling out into my controller's WM08:44
lupine_85of course, if they don't work in windows either it's conceivable that there's a problem with th .avi file08:44
Lerneaen_Hydraie everything-in-a-window08:44
zorglu_Lerneaen_Hydra: freenx is fast, if it is what you are looking for08:44
lalommm well i have installed the players08:44
zorglu_!freenx08:44
ubotufreenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX08:44
laloand when i installed the players said that had already some codecs08:45
Lerneaen_Hydrazorglu_: oh, I've been using Xming for that, it seems to work well enough for ssh x-forwarding08:45
Lerneaen_Hydrafreenix might not be the same thing though, now that I look a bit more closely08:45
zorglu_it is supposed to be the fastest08:45
Lerneaen_Hydraok, so the way of using it is the same as a VNC client/server, rather than x-forwarding induvidual apps?08:46
laloso?08:46
lalono can help me?08:46
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zorglu_hmm i think there is a difference, with freenx, you got your own session, while with vnc you got an existing one08:47
zorglu_i mean it is like you were loggin in at the X level, but remotly08:47
lalowhat about the codes?08:47
lalocodecs?08:47
Lerneaen_Hydrazorglu_: oh, ok. so the server doesn't need to have X started?08:48
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lupine_85!w32codecs08:48
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:48
lupine_85bah08:48
lupine_85install w32codecs and try mplayer08:48
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lupine_85if that doesn't work, I'll be /very/ surprised08:48
zorglu_Lerneaen_Hydra: not sure at all08:48
Lerneaen_Hydrazorglu_: ok, it doesn't matter in my case, I'll test that app08:48
zorglu_Lerneaen_Hydra: a guy called george on #kde-devel did some work on doing a better client08:48
Lerneaen_Hydrathanks for the tip08:48
zorglu_my pleasure08:49
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laloDIDNT WORK08:49
Lerneaen_Hydra(the gnome VNC client seemed to work much better)08:49
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laloi had already installed w32 codecs and nothing08:49
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davehello08:50
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davecan someone help me08:50
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zorglu_!ask08:51
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)08:51
dave:-)08:51
davejust making sure someone is here08:51
chris_can somebody take some time to help me out with my speakers? Mixer and alsa mixer have only 2 controls and my sound is really poor quality. I'm using intel hd audio, so it should be well supported....08:51
mluser-homeWhat does it mean when aptitude tells me ' The following packages have been kept back'?08:51
davei just installed kubuntu and i acannot access root08:51
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zorglu_!passwd08:51
ubotupasswd: change and administer password and group data. In component main, is required. Version 1:4.0.16-2ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 733 kB, installed size 2316 kB08:51
zorglu_not that08:51
davei typed su and it would not take my password08:51
laloSO?????????????? WHAT ELSE?08:52
zorglu_!sudo | dave08:52
ubotudave: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.08:52
laloWHAT ELSE CA I DO?08:52
davewhat is sudo?08:52
daveoh08:52
daveok08:53
davehow come su doesnt take my password though08:53
BluesKajis there a Wine pkg for Edgy08:53
BluesKaj?08:53
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davesudo took it as well as the user area in system08:54
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Lerneaen_Hydraoh, another random question, is there any good (with GUI) app to control/configure iptables?08:54
laloNO FURTHER INFO FOR THE AVI FILES?08:54
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sacerothank you all for your suggestions! see you later08:54
RawSewageCan someone help me?  Audacity keeps crashing08:54
zorglu_dave: you should read the page08:54
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mluser-homeDoes anyone know what it means when aptitude says  packages have been KEPT back ?08:55
davewhich page?08:55
zorglu_!firewall | Lerneaen_Hydra08:55
ubotuLerneaen_Hydra: Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).08:55
zorglu_Lerneaen_Hydra: none is actually good, but this is the best available08:55
Lerneaen_Hydraah! guarddog, ok08:55
Lerneaen_Hydraok08:55
zorglu_dave: the one i gave you08:55
daveoh...didnt notice it08:56
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VV4tch3rhi all08:56
zorglu_!tab | dave08:57
ubotudave: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.08:57
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VV4tch3rhow my fstab should look like for a normal user to mount something?08:57
davei am attempting to install firefox and it gives me an error "error when loading shared libraries: libgtk-x11"08:58
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ErenTurkay`hi all08:58
Lerneaen_Hydrazorglu_: I hope you get paid to be here...08:58
davezorglu_: do i need to install this library?08:58
zorglu_Lerneaen_Hydra: my pleasure is enougth :)08:58
Lerneaen_Hydrazorglu_: doesn't it get tiring?08:58
zorglu_dave: no idea08:58
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davezorglu_: any ideas on how to troubleshoot this?08:59
zorglu_Lerneaen_Hydra: well it give me a good idea of what is 'a user'08:59
zorglu_dave: nope08:59
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Lerneaen_Hydrazorglu_: heh, for better and for worse ;)08:59
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zorglu_Lerneaen_Hydra: and this worth a huge mass of money :)08:59
VV4tch3rhow can I mount a partistion as a normal user?09:00
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davecan someone help me install firefox09:00
purpleposeidonHow do you prevent kde from opening up all the apps you had up when you closed it?09:00
VV4tch3rdave: apt-get libgtk1.209:00
VV4tch3rdave: sorry , apt-get install klibgtk1.209:00
zorglu_VV4tch3r: using sudo is not ok ?09:01
VV4tch3rlibgtk1..209:01
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VV4tch3rok: sudo apt-get install libgtk1.209:01
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VV4tch3rI have twisted fingers09:02
VV4tch3rsorry09:02
daveW4tch3r: could not find package09:02
VV4tch3raaaa09:02
zorglu_VV4tch3r: hehe :) nope i meant "sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/bkabal" :)09:02
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zorglu_!info libgtk1.209:02
ubotulibgtk1.2: The GIMP Toolkit set of widgets for X. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.10-18 (edgy), package size 817 kB, installed size 1772 kB09:02
zorglu_dave: "sudo apt-get install libgtk1.2"09:03
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VV4tch3rsudo bash09:03
VV4tch3rto open o new shell as root09:03
lupine_85su :p09:03
SHRIKEE!info whateverpacketiwant09:03
ubotuPackage whateverpacketiwant does not exist in any distro I know09:03
SHRIKEE?09:03
VV4tch3rand then:09:03
SHRIKEEsexy09:03
VV4tch3rvi /etc/apt/sources.list09:04
davezorglu_: that downloaded but i still get the error when i attempt to install09:04
lupine_85usr/include/stdio.h is in libc6-dev09:04
lupine_85hmm09:04
VV4tch3rand uncomment all sources09:04
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VV4tch3rzorglu_:I want to mount as user not as root09:05
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zorglu_VV4tch3r: i think pmount is supposed to do exactly that09:05
zorglu_but i never looked at it09:05
RawSewageCan someone help me?  Audacity crashes with the following error:  artsdsp audacity09:05
RawSewageOoops09:05
zorglu_!pmount | VV4tch3r09:05
ubotupmount: mount removable devices as normal user. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.13-1build1 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 588 kB09:05
RawSewageCan someone help me?  Audacity crashes with the following error:  Segmentation fault09:06
zorglu_yep this was it :)09:06
RawSewageSegmentation fault09:06
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sam__help setup according to ubuntu wiki try to see network get this - Unable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall.09:06
daveany other ideas?09:06
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zorglu_RawSewage: no good and it doesnt provide much info09:06
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zorglu_RawSewage: 'segfaul' a bit like blue screen on window09:06
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RawSewagezorglu_, oh09:06
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markelhashi ppl09:06
Godfatherguys i need your help09:07
markelhaswhat's the kubuntu 6.10 code name?09:07
Godfatheri've just installed kubuntu edgy eft09:07
markelhashehehe09:07
zorglu_ kubuntu edgy eft09:07
markelhasedgy09:08
Godfatherbut wifi assitant doesn't see09:08
markelhaszorglu_: where can i find the source.list file09:08
VV4tch3rzorglu_: ls: /d: Permission denied09:08
Godfathermy home wireless net09:08
sam__anybody got a good sample samba config file that can be easily edited ?09:08
VV4tch3rzorglu_: pmount /d09:08
Godfatherwe have a pc running windows that works like server09:08
zorglu_!source | markelhas09:08
ubotumarkelhas: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:08
markelhasin this http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic can't find that version09:08
Godfatherif i use windows as i'm doing right now09:08
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zorglu_markelhas: or it is in /etc/apt/sources.list09:09
zorglu_VV4tch3r: ?09:09
Godfatheri can see the net09:09
Godfatherand enjoy internet09:09
markelhaszorglu_: yap, but i need to fix it09:09
Godfatherbut if i use kubuntu i acan't see it09:09
zorglu_markelhas: f2 then type kate /etc/apt/sources.list09:09
zorglu_!samba | Godfather09:09
ubotuGodfather: samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT09:09
Godfatheruse this wifi net is the only way to enjoy internet09:10
Godfatheryes09:10
markelhaszorglu_: yes, but i need the servers to add it09:10
Godfatherbut why wireless assistan can't see the net?09:10
markelhaszorglu_: i've mess my .list file09:10
markelhaszorglu_: can u send your's?09:11
zorglu_markelhas: i see. why not using one from the source-omoatic09:11
zorglu_markelhas: im using dapper09:11
zorglu_and file transfert over the internet is still an unsolved problem09:11
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markelhaszorglu_: in source-omatic doesn't have edgy09:11
zorglu_markelhas: serious ??09:11
zorglu_!sourceomatic09:11
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic09:11
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zorglu_wow this ubuntu-nl should wake up :)09:12
Godfath3rdoes anyone give me the wifiradr package09:12
Godfath3r?09:12
zorglu_markelhas: ok generate one for dapper, and replace all 'dapper' by edgy in the file09:12
Godfath3ri wish to know09:12
zorglu_!wifi09:12
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:12
markelhaszorglu_: oki then09:12
zorglu_Godfath3r: you got htis one ?09:12
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Godfath3rzorglu09:13
Godfath3ri've set09:14
Bubba_GumpGodfath3r: what says konsole when command: sudo iwconfig09:14
Godfath3rthe wifi card09:14
Godfath3rit shows me the essid that i gave09:14
Godfath3rbut 0 signal09:14
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markelhaszorglu_: going to try it09:14
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Godfath3rdoes exist another .deb package tha could make my wifi card works?09:15
Bubba_Gumphave you the Ndis wrapper?09:15
Bubba_Gumpor something similar09:15
Godfath3rno i haven't09:16
Godfath3ri can't enjoy internet09:16
Godfath3rnow infact i'm using windows09:16
RawSewagezorglu_, is this a possible fix for my Audacity crashing:   add:    @audio          -       rt_priority     100          to   /etc/security/limits.conf09:16
Bubba_Gumpis your card listed here?09:16
Bubba_Gump!wifi09:16
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:16
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RawSewagezorglu_, oh well, I'll give it a try09:18
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honesthow do i change directory09:18
scioncd09:18
honestwould it be somethibng like cd /temp?09:18
Bubba_Gumpcd09:18
Bubba_Gumpaye09:18
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honestif the folder i wanted to move into was called temp?09:18
Bubba_Gumpyeah09:19
sparrI installed Edgy and 3d acceleration on my i865 worked.  Then I did some unspecified things.  Then I rebooted, and now 3d acceleration does not work.  What things may I have done wrong, how would I tell which of them is the culprit, and how can I fix it?09:19
Bubba_Gumpcd /home (to get into the home dir)09:19
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Bubba_Gumpsparr: well, what was the first thing?09:19
honest"honest@honest-desktop:~$ cd /Temp"09:19
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honest"bash: cd: /Temp: No such file or directory"09:20
honestthere is a directory called temp09:20
pacouhonest: Temp doesn't exist. temp does09:20
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pacouTemp and  temp is not the same in linux09:20
sparrBubba_Gump: an Adept 'update'09:20
honesti know, i've tried both09:20
honesthonest@honest-desktop:~$ dir09:20
honestDesktop  Examples  Temp09:20
fjsanchezHello09:20
Bubba_Gumpsparr: which updates?09:20
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sparrBubba_Gump: whichever ones it picked.  i assume it did the equivalent of "apt-get upgrade"09:21
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pacouhonest: if there's a dir called "Temp" in your home dir, type cd Temp without the slash. the slash tells you the dir is in root (i.e. /)09:21
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honestpa09:21
FJ_SanchezHow can I change the font of Firefox? I mean the application font09:21
honestpacou: cheers for that] 09:21
sparrFJ_Sanchez: edit, preferences, content, font/Advanced09:22
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markelhasplz, can any one send the original source.list from kubuntu 6.10?09:22
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Bubba_Gumpsparr: did you safe update or update?09:23
FJ_Sanchezsparr but I want to change the font of the menubar and this stuff09:23
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sparrBubba_Gump: safe update isnt available in the default edgy adept (i added it to the menu later)09:23
sparrFJ_Sanchez: install a different theme09:23
honestI'm having issues with ndiswrapper09:23
markelhasplz i really need it09:23
honestdoes anyone know it well?09:23
Bubba_GumpFJ_Sanchez: K> system settings> appearance> fonts09:23
markelhasany one!?09:23
FJ_SanchezI click on "Install scrollbar fix" in the Sistem Settings of KDE09:23
Lerneaen_Hydrazorglu_: wrt freenx, do you know if there is a working edgy repository, or if the dapper rep will work with edge?09:23
Lerneaen_Hydra*edgy09:23
FJ_SanchezBubba_Gump: all my apps have the correct font but Firefox, it's too big09:24
Bubba_Gumptry ctrl -09:24
Bubba_Gumpactually in firefox09:24
FJ_SanchezNo the web page, the menu bar09:24
markelhasLerneaen_Hydra: can u send me your source.list09:24
Bubba_Gumpsparr: you could install edgy again, and, then select each from the list09:24
sam__help setup according to ubuntu wiki try to see network get this - Unable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall09:25
Lerneaen_Hydramarkelhas: ok09:25
Bubba_GumpsparrL and go for a manual update09:25
markelhasLerneaen_Hydra: it's from kubuntu 6.10?09:25
Lerneaen_Hydrayeah09:25
sparrBubba_Gump: tempting09:25
markelhasLerneaen_Hydra: edgy09:25
Bubba_GumpFJ_Sanchez: how do you mean the menubar?09:25
Lerneaen_HydraI've uncommented universe multiverse though09:25
markelhasLerneaen_Hydra: oki i'll put it again09:26
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FJ_SanchezBubba_Gump: I think the problem is that I installed the fix that you can do from appearance menu in System Settings09:26
FJ_SanchezAfter this the font is too big09:26
Lerneaen_Hydramarkelhas: pastebin.ca/24056709:26
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honestsomeone tell me this, it tells me if i have to be in root terminal to install something but i cant copy file into root to install them, how does this work?09:26
Bubba_Gumphave you tried the ctrl - in a firefox browser?09:26
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markelhasLerneaen_Hydra: what's that!?09:26
FJ_SanchezBubba_Gump: this it to change the font size of the web page09:27
Bubba_Gumpyeah09:27
markelhasLerneaen_Hydra: sorry don't understand09:27
sparrhonest: root terminal means you are logged in as the user 'root', not in the directory '/'09:27
Lerneaen_Hydrahttp://<that adress>09:27
FJ_SanchezI don't want to change this font, I want to change the font of the top menu09:27
FJ_SanchezTools, Preferences, File, etc...09:27
markelhasLerneaen_Hydra: oki09:27
Bubba_Gumpahh09:27
Bubba_Gumpi see :)09:27
honestsparr: but if i do "DIR" if gives me the options of the root folder09:27
Bubba_Gumphold on09:27
FJ_Sanchez;)09:27
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Bubba_GumpFJ_Sanchez: K> System Settings> Appearance> Fonts> menu (change as desired)09:28
markelhasLerneaen_Hydra: this is the orignal one?09:28
FJ_SanchezBubba_Gump: but this doesn't apply to Firefox, I don't know why09:29
Lerneaen_Hydramarkelhas: pretty much AFAIR, with added multiverse/universe09:29
markelhasLerneaen_Hydra: ok them thkns09:29
Lerneaen_Hydranp09:29
honestsparr: o see, running something as roon and actually being in root09:29
Bubba_GumpFJ_Sanchez: on the same settings bit, click GTK styles and fonts09:29
Bubba_Gumpwhat does it say in GTK fonts?09:30
honestcan someone help me try and understand why thius doesnt work09:30
FJ_SanchezUse my KDE font09:30
honesthonest@honest-desktop:~/Temp/FILES/DRIVERS/WINXP2K$ sudo ndiswrapper -i BCMWL5c.inf09:30
honestInstalling bcmwl5c09:30
honestcouldn't copy BCMWL5c.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135.09:30
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Bubba_Gumptry, use another font09:30
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FJ_SanchezBut I clicked the option in this tab that says Install scrollbar fix..09:30
FJ_SanchezAnd after that all is wrong09:31
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FJ_SanchezI want to delete this fix09:31
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RawSewageCan someone help me?  Audacity keeps crashing for no reason09:32
sam__help setup according to ubuntu wiki try to see network get this - Unable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall09:32
zorglu_!info efence09:32
ubotuPackage efence does not exist in any distro I know09:32
zorglu_doh!09:32
Bubba_Gumpwell09:33
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Bubba_Gumpi've just uninstalled firefox09:33
Bubba_Gumppressed the button09:33
Bubba_Gumpand the menu text seems fine here09:33
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Bubba_Gumpafter reinstalling it, of course ;)09:33
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FJ_SanchezMmm09:34
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FJ_SanchezI've found something in a forum thread09:34
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Bubba_Gumpwhat's it say :)09:34
honestanyone know ndiswrapper well?09:34
FJ_Sanchezhttp://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=2207348&09:34
FJ_SanchezI'll try to delete this lines09:35
FJ_Sanchezthese lines09:35
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Bubba_Gumpyeah09:35
Bubba_Gumpsee what it does :)09:35
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honestcouldn't copy BCMWL5c.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135.09:37
honestplease help09:38
honestlol09:38
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FJ_SanchezThis didn't help too much09:38
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sam__help setup according to ubuntu wiki try to see network get this - Unable to find any workgroups in your local network. This might be caused by an enabled firewall09:41
FJ_SanchezBubba_Gump: it's working right09:42
FJ_Sanchez:D09:42
FJ_SanchezBut I have to choose font size 9 to get a font size 1109:42
FJ_SanchezQuite weird09:42
mluser-homeWhere do I get the flash 9 package for ubuntu?09:42
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georgeb!flash909:43
ubotuFlash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html09:43
Bubba_Gumpeasy come easy go :D09:43
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honestif i create a root account, does anyone know the root password?09:45
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zorglu_honest: the personn who typed it, else nobody09:49
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frank23I'm having a strange issue: In kubuntu dapper, I'm running firefox 1.5 and mythtranscode at the same time. mythtranscode uses up all my CPU. when mythtranscode runs at nice=19, firefox is responsive and working fine. when mythtranscode runs at nice=17 (the default), firefox is so slow it's not usable. All the other programs run fine. Any ideas?09:49
honestOk, sorry that was a stupid question09:49
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zorglu_honest: better to ask most of the time09:50
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zorglu_and here, it is all the time :)09:50
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mc_what ports does apollon need opened?09:50
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scionhello09:50
honestzorglu_: lol cheers, u dont know anything about ndiswrapper do u?09:50
scionanyone here good with Steam and wine?09:50
sam__exit09:51
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zorglu_honest: nope, i dont use it09:51
honest: (09:51
zorglu_mc_: see their website09:51
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mc_zorglu_: alright09:51
zorglu_honest: hang around or comeback later, some do09:51
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Tokeiitoafter upgrade to 6.10: when i trying to lunch Zend Studio i'm geting error: http://paste.phphelp.lt/paste/299cb7452566b1277abfccde508c7ebe09:52
scionanyone here good with wine and counter strike?09:52
Tokeiitoi've cheked, these libs are in /lib/ and /usr/lib/ dirs09:52
zorglu_maouaou network scheduling is a ... not an easy task :) (read a bitch)09:52
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zorglu_Tokeiito: this is ultra specific, have you tried their dedicated channel ?09:53
Tokeiitothey dont have it. its not OpenSource soft09:53
zorglu_zend is not the python stuff to do webite ?09:53
B-Minusis there a powermanagement for laptops in kubuntu ?09:53
B-Minuscant find it09:53
Tokeiitobut on 6.06 evrything works. so why after upgreid it not works?09:53
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zorglu_B-Minus: i installed it yesterday... dont remember the name09:54
B-Minus:(09:54
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zorglu_!info kpowersave09:54
ubotukpowersave: frontend to powersave for setting user specific policies. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.2-2ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 3216 kB, installed size 4984 kB09:54
zorglu_B-Minus: i think it is this one09:54
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yetii have a wmv8 video which i want to burn onto a videoCD or even better, a SVCD. is there any program that does this for me?09:55
Tokeiitozorglu_: no. its Java stuf09:55
zorglu_Tokeiito: ok im completly mistaken then09:55
B-Minusubotu: tnx09:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tnx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:55
zorglu_B-Minus: ubotu is a bot, i triggered it via a command09:55
frank23yeti: I think you can use tovid to do that09:55
FJ_SanchezBubba_Gump: http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?s=9f82ef8290ac230ff11661dac9fa479d&showtopic=26055&pid=139680&st=0&#entry13968009:56
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FJ_SanchezThe problem is still there09:56
FJ_SanchezThe change affected all my GTK apps09:56
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FJ_SanchezSo now the other apps have a small fonts09:56
B-Minuszorglu_: tn09:57
B-Minusx09:57
zorglu_Tokeiito: dirname: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6 <- wow this is a path problem09:57
yetifrank23: i can't find tovid in the edgy/universe/multiverse repostitories09:57
cpk1you cant sudo cd?09:57
honestzorglu_: cheers09:57
frank23yeti: it may not be in the repositories09:57
zorglu_Tokeiito: type in a terminal "which dirname" and tell me the result09:58
yetifrank23: umm okay... i guess i'll just use ffmpeg then09:58
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frank23yeti: http://tovid.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page09:58
Tokeiitozorglu_: /usr/bin/dirname09:58
cpk1yeti: kmediafactory might09:58
zorglu_ls /lib/libc.so.6 <- type that in a terminal Tokeiito09:59
zorglu_Tokeiito: and giveme the result09:59
Tokeiitozorglu_: /lib/libc.so.610:00
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zorglu_Tokeiito: ok what produced this list of error, did you launch a command ? if so which one10:00
Tokeiitoi'm just lunch program which starts it :)10:01
Tokeiitoexec script10:01
Tokeiitoi can give source of it this helps10:01
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zorglu_sudo ldconfig -v | grep libc.so.6 <- ok type this one now, Tokeiito10:02
cpk1trying to copy files from an ntfs drive as sudo yet I get "omitting directory" when i try it10:02
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zorglu_cpk1: use -r option to copy all the subdirectory10:02
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zorglu_cp -r /my/source/dir /other/dir/name10:02
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cpk1zorglu_: thanks, trying that10:03
Tokeiitozorglu_: results paste here or in pastebin ?10:03
marius__Hello10:03
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marius__10:03
Tokeiitowill be 4lines10:03
marius__somebody Uses YADe?10:03
zorglu_Tokeiito: yep, and put the exec script in another pastebin10:03
marius__alguien que use YADE?10:03
marius__necesito ayuda, por favo10:03
zorglu_marius__:10:03
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zorglu_!es10:04
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.10:04
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bianconerihaving problems with vmware server...its not running i get this message from the terminal : '/usr/lib/vmware/bin/vmware: /usr/lib/vmware/lib/libpng12.so.0/libpng12.so.0: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libcairo.so.2)'10:05
Tokeiito!paste10:05
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)10:05
zorglu_Tokeiito: my guess is the script play funky with the shared lib path, and got messeup10:05
zorglu_Tokeiito: nope this one is no good10:05
Tokeiitoxm10:06
zorglu_http://paste.phphelp.lt/ <- Tokeiito try this one10:06
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Lerneaen_Hydrazorglu_: do you happen to know of a windows client that works with freenx? (the free as in beer version (2.x) didn't work, as was said in the wiki)10:08
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zorglu_Lerneaen_Hydra: nope.10:08
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zorglu_freenx is good technology but poorly used for now10:08
Tokeiitozorglu_: ldconfig output: http://pastebin.ca/24066310:08
zorglu_lookin10:09
Lerneaen_Hydrazorglu_: ah, I see10:09
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Lerneaen_Hydrazorglu_: do you know of any other similar protocoll?10:09
Lerneaen_Hydrasimilar to freenx/vnc10:09
zorglu_Lerneaen_Hydra: well X forwarding via ssh, but you already know this one10:10
Lerneaen_Hydrayeah, not quite what I want (especially when over to a windows box)10:10
zorglu_Tokeiito: ok you do have the library zend is looking for10:10
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Nutz44need help with lan between xp and kubuntu - using a router with 4 port hub - cannot see my network at ill in remote place -> samba share10:11
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zorglu_!samba | Nutz4410:11
ubotuNutz44: samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT10:11
Tokeiitozorglu_: script source: http://pastebin.ca/24066810:11
zorglu_lookin10:12
Nutz44already checked those sites but still no connection10:12
Tokeiitozorglu_: if it seems very mest up, i can upload it to my host10:12
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aureliushello10:13
honestdoes anyone know how to find the ID of a PCI device?10:14
Lerneaen_Hydralspci?10:14
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Lerneaen_Hydraproably with some flag10:15
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zorglu_Tokeiito: looked at it... failed to find anything10:15
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zorglu_Tokeiito: ok the status is : the error you see are typical unix command line tools (dirname, grep, ls) failling to find basic shared library (libc.so.6, libpthread.so.0). BUT those library are present on your disk. thus somewhere the path to the shared library got messed up10:17
zorglu_Tokeiito: and i didnt found where10:17
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Tokeiitozorglu_: then tere is some bug in 6.10 cose in 6.06 works perfect :(10:22
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zorglu_well it is more likely just that the zend stuff is not compatible10:22
Tokeiito:)10:22
Tokeiitoye10:22
honesti need to find the PCI ID of a card in my box, does anyuone know how i would do such a thing?10:23
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Tokeiitosad sad cose now i must downgrade to kubuntu 6.0610:23
zorglu_Tokeiito: you said it was commercial product, cant you ask them ?10:23
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zorglu_well i prefere 6.06 personnaly :)10:23
Tokeiitoi will10:23
Tokeiitozorglu_: why?10:23
jonathan__ff10:23
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Homeryo10:23
zorglu_Tokeiito: i use my box to work. to try unstable version is not recommended :)10:24
Homerso what is the package to update KDE to 3.5.5 in dapper10:24
Tokeiitoxm.. so 6.10 is unstable?10:24
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zorglu_Tokeiito: well the definition is quite funky :) it is "stable AND on the edge" :)10:24
Tokeiito:) isee10:24
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Homer!kde10:25
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE10:25
zorglu_Tokeiito: but it is impossible to be both at the same time. up to you to find the one you prefere :010:25
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Tokeiitozorglu_: ok thank you for the help. is there a way to reinstall kubuntu without formating HDD?10:25
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Homerhow do I update KDE to 3.5.5 in dapper?10:25
zorglu_Tokeiito: if i undersand what you mean by 'formating the disk', i would say no10:26
h3sp4wnHomer: see kubuntu.org10:26
Homer?10:26
zorglu_Tokeiito: you can keep the partition thos10:26
HomerOK10:26
h3sp4wnHomer: It gives you a link to riddells key and the repo name and full instructions10:26
Tokeiitoguff. all mine 80GB is one partition10:26
Tokeiitook thanks will try to reboot on old linux image. maybe helps for wile10:27
Tokeiitogood luck10:27
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drehi all10:32
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Admiral_Chicagohello10:32
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HomerI do I change KDE to show American time10:35
letalisHomer: what timezone?10:35
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willis_Hmm..  got me a  BCM4318   wireless in this laptop. had it working under dapper some time back.. does the kernel in edgy include the modules for it now?  debatin updating to edgy in this laptop.. or keeping dapper. :)10:35
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georgebHomer: right click on the clock and adjust time&date for permanent change to the system timezone10:36
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georgebHomer: or right-click on the clock -> show timezone -> configure timezones to setup several timezones and see the time easily in those timezones without changing the system's timezone10:37
Homerthat didn't change the time10:37
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HomerI want it to say the time in AM/PM10:37
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HawkwindHomer: Adjust Time and Date and select the bottom option in the time configuration10:38
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BluesKajHomer, just foolaround with it ..it'll evetually work for ya :)10:38
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Mahmoud85Homer : right on time > Date & Time format > Times & Dates > Time Format .. choose the one with AMPM10:39
Homeryeah did it10:39
Homerthanks10:39
edulixhi!10:39
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edulixhow can I configure kde so that when I change with ctrl+tab from desktop to desktop it goes first to previously visited desktops?10:40
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HawkwindFabioNET: Please don't announce your away messages publicly10:40
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Hawkwind_FabioNET_: ^^^^^^10:40
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edulixnon-linear. I had that in my older instalation of kubuntu (dapper)10:40
candybanHi guys ...10:41
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candybanHas there been any "cool" new developments lately?10:41
HomerKubuntu has become sentient!10:41
Homerfinally10:41
candybanI sentient? (going to dictionary for that one)10:41
_FabioNET_offHawkwind: what?10:41
fdovingcandyban: checkout basket - http://basket.kde.org/10:42
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candybansentient \SEN-shee-uhnt; -tee-; -shuhnt\, adjective:10:42
candyban  1. Capable of perceiving by the senses; conscious.10:42
candyban 2. Experiencing sensation or feeling.10:42
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jende_Howdy folksy10:43
zorglu_sensation like 'wow it is hot' ?10:43
letalissentient?10:43
letalisthats going a little far.10:44
letalislol10:44
jende_Hawkwind: hi there10:44
jende_fdoving: hi again10:44
jende_has anyone of you seen any probs with mysql 5.0 on edgy?10:45
candybanCan anyone point to a good site where they have progress on some "cool" pieces of software? (e.g. cairo, aiglx, xglx, compiz, kde4, samba4, ...)10:45
BluesKajhey jende_...did ya find K9Copy ?10:45
jende_BluesKaj: sure did10:46
BluesKajworks ?10:46
jende_BluesKaj: have posted the errormessages to the developer10:46
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jende_BluesKaj: nops...*grrrrrrrrr*10:46
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BluesKajbummer10:46
jende_BluesKaj: indeed10:46
rojikaruI need help.10:46
BluesKajhow about devede24?10:46
BluesKajrojikaru, just ask10:47
rojikaruHow do i get the alsamixer working after i've done, grep snd-card /etc/modules10:48
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jende_BluesKaj: I have installed it, but hadn't had a real look at it as yet10:48
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sbrandollocucU10:49
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sbrandolloThere are italian?10:50
jende_!it10:50
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:50
jende_rojikaru: what do you mean? I don't get you10:51
sbrandollothanks10:51
jende_rojikaru: sudo alsamixer10:51
jende_sbrandollo: no worries10:51
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Kim^JOMFG! Why THE HELL DID SOMEONE BROKE SPEEDCRUNCH?!?!?!!?!?10:52
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Kim^JIt can't count.10:52
Kim^JIt's friggin useless.10:52
zorglu_!language10:53
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.10:53
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Kim^JFix my Speedcrunch. NOW!10:53
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zorglu_please behave10:54
Kim^JWhy do we have a useless calculator?!10:54
Homerwhat is that cool console program from KDE used10:54
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Homeryakakae10:54
fdovingKim^J: what's wrong with it?10:54
Homeror something10:54
omicron_yakuake ;)10:54
Kim^Jfdoving: It saying 255*255*255 is 1.65.....10:54
sbrandollo!it10:54
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!10:55
zorglu_hehehe :)10:55
fdovingKim^J: isn't it?10:55
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zorglu_damn i dont understand, so i will be agressive, this will solve all my problems :)10:55
Kim^Jfdoving: No... In my world the thing after . is decimals.10:55
nariansorry to ask such a borring question, but is there any working DVD-rip app with a nice GUI for KDE? or better yet, at all?10:55
fdovingKim^J: the answer is10:56
zorglu_!k3b | narian10:56
ubotunarian: k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto10:56
fdovingKim^J:10:56
fdovingehm..10:56
jende_narian: k9copy10:56
jende_narian: dvd::rip10:56
zorglu_narian: sorry you meant rip10:56
fdovingKim^J: i can't paste normally, but it's 1658137510:57
fdovingKim^J: that's the same as 1.6581375e710:57
narianjende_: witch is the better you think?10:57
Kim^JIn my world no.10:57
marius__#kubuntu-es10:57
jende_narian: dunno10:57
zorglu_not in his world :)10:57
Kim^JWhy put a friggin dot there?!?!?10:57
zorglu_Kim^J: well it is ok, math is not for your world :)10:57
yetiKim^J: e7 means *10^710:57
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h3sp4wnKim^J: Because its in standard form which is exactly what it should do10:58
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zorglu_Kim^J: yell more to the computer, it will remove the dot out of fear :)10:58
zorglu_it is too late for a tough customer :)10:58
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yetizorglu_: well... representing the product of two integers as a floating point number is not math at all, it was invented by evil compscientists because their microschips were too dumb to correctly multiply arbitrarly large integers in useful time ;)10:59
fdovingKim^J: if you don't want this feature, turn it off. 'view -> fixed decimal' inside speedcrunch. And next time, ask politely.11:00
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zorglu_yeti: more like because unlimited memory was not yet available :)11:00
Kim^Jah thank you.11:00
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yetizorglu_: 1E7 notation doesnt solve this problem, it alleviates it though ;)11:02
zorglu_yep and 1e7 is a math notation :)11:02
zorglu_official and stuff :)11:03
yetii've never seen a mathematical paper that says "1e7". they say "1*10^7".11:03
flaccidanybody else have splash progress meter moved to bottom left corner of screen?11:03
zorglu_well you need to meet efficient mathematicians :)11:03
zorglu_1e7 shorted and more readable that 1*10^7 :)11:04
yetizorglu_: and by mathematical paper, i mean real mathematics, not evel numericians ;)11:04
yetievil*11:04
zorglu_me i mean people in front of a blackboard doing math :)11:04
yetishow my a book on number theory that gives evaluated bounds for theorems in 1e7 notation ;)11:05
zorglu_maouaouaoua11:05
georgebyeti: depends.. if was writen in word or latex :)11:05
h3sp4wne is something else so it doesn't really make any sense11:05
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h3sp4wn(or could mean 2 things)11:05
yetigeorgeb: lol11:05
zorglu_yep exponantial11:06
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zorglu_but it is not like math got clean notation :)11:06
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Homere is natural log no?11:06
h3sp4wne is a number 2.71828183.............11:06
georgebHomer: for mathematicians it might, for everybody else is a vowel11:06
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dennisterhello ppls :)11:07
zorglu_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_%28mathematical_constant%29#Non-mathematical_uses_of_e11:07
zorglu_The exponential function f(x) = e^x11:07
zorglu_The mathematical constant e is the base of the natural logarithm.11:08
h3sp4wnBut e is just a number11:08
Homerspeechcrunch is pretty hot11:08
dennisterok, the edgy i386 went fairly smoothly11:08
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Homercan I get speechcrunch as a library?11:08
georgebzorglu_: dude, stop giving us links like that, without a warning, I still have to take a math exam and now I feel so guilty :)11:09
zorglu_hehe :)11:09
dennisterwhere i could use some help now is the nvdia-glx install...konsole keeps giving me an error11:09
Tokeiitowhat tool is the best for partitioning HDD, when in the HDD are information.11:09
georgebzorglu_: seeing all those formulas, I think I'll have a nightmare with all my math teachears this night11:09
Homerwikipedia is like the worst place to learn about math11:09
zorglu_q. whtat is the name of the 1 * 10 ^ 7 notation ?11:09
h3sp4wnzorglu_: standard form11:10
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Homerthe math editors don't even try to sound normal11:10
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zorglu_h3sp4wn: it doesnt please wikipedia, any other ?11:10
dennisteri installed the linux-restricted, rebooted, then the nvidia-glx, then tried the command nvidia-glx-config enable...but nada11:10
georgebTokeiito: you can try Gparted live CD http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php; still, nothing is 100% reliable, a backup might be usefull :)11:10
h3sp4wnzorglu_: but you would write it as 1 x 10 (but I dunno how to to 7)11:11
zorglu_my bad11:11
Homerww speechcrunch is awesome11:11
Homerspeed11:11
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Homerwow11:11
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dennistercan anyone help me with this?11:11
HomerI want the math library behind it!11:11
yetiHomer: what do you mean by "try to sound normal"? i guess you can't explain principal ideals or skew fields and "sound normal" ;)11:11
shadowhywindhay all i am having a werid problem, My wireless is so extremely slow11:11
h3sp4wnshadowhywind: using decent antennas ? (first thing to change)11:11
zorglu_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_notation#Exponential_notation <- blahhhhhhhhhhh i win!!! :)11:11
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Tokeiitogeorgeb: so for Ubuntu there is nothing like windows Partition Magic?11:12
zorglu_yeti: and you lose!!! :)11:12
shadowhywindTokeitto try qtparted, or qparted11:12
h3sp4wnzorglu_: You lose because its a capital E11:12
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h3sp4wnzorglu_: e is (the number)11:13
zorglu_nope scrushy use E11:13
yetizorglu_: so why do i lose? it says that calculators and computer programs use it. i have never denied thay do.11:13
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zorglu_me i did irc math :)11:13
georgebTokeiito: there is also gparted in the repos11:13
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dennisterthis is the error message i've gotten twice now: Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel.11:13
zorglu_yeti: because it is official notation11:13
Tokeiitothankyou11:13
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Homerwow speechcruch is the s**t11:13
Homerseriously what library does it use to solve problems11:14
HomerI want it11:14
zorglu_i dont even know what is speed scruch :)11:14
nekomataduring the upgrade, how bad is it if it throws a load of unresolved dependancies at you? (amarok, kcontrol, kdesktop, konqueror, various other video players) are they to be expected?11:14
yetizorglu_: and where exactly have i denied that it is some sort of official notation? i just said that serious math like number theory would never use it ;)11:14
dennisternekomata: pretty serious11:14
HomerI hate math11:14
zorglu_yeti: moauaoua :) ok now lets define 'seriousness' :)11:15
dennisteryou shouldn't have any unresolved dependencies11:15
Homerand I am a CS major11:15
dennistertry this: apt-get install -f11:15
zorglu_yeti: ... sore loser and that's it :)11:15
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yetiHomer: math rocks ;)11:15
Homereww no it doesn't11:15
HomerI will say it is better then learning shakespeare though11:15
yetizorglu_: okay, you win, i hereby award you a golden pineapple and admit i was not right :)11:15
dennisternahhhhhh shakespeare's the best!11:16
zorglu_yeti: you said it :)11:16
Homeror any college level english class11:16
yetizorglu_: now take back that "sore loser" thing ;)11:16
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dennister<-----English major here11:16
Homerewww11:16
HomerI barf on you!11:16
dennisterrofl11:16
zorglu_yeti: hmm ok :) you are a good loser :)11:16
Lerneaen_HydraHomer: if you like speedcrunch take a look at qalculate11:16
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dennisteri love my lit...sorry11:16
h3sp4wnUsing vector's instead of trigonometry in code leads to it running much faster11:17
dennistermath was just too easy11:17
Homerenglish is just to silly11:17
Homerwrite a 6 page paper on "Africanism in Miltons Paradise Lost"11:17
dennisterlol...the ambiguosity is the challenge11:17
icheynehi all. I'm looking at buying a video card and I want to know the most "ideologically correct" one to go for. This page lists some options but are any of these any good? http://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/video11:17
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Homerenglish major = proves you are good at BSing11:18
Homerenglish professors are masters in BS11:18
garrinhey, can anyone tell me why input fields look so bad in firefox in linux11:18
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dennistericheyne: stay away from ati...go nvdia11:18
yetiicheyne: well, those intel chips are all onboard chips, you can't actually buy cards that use those.11:18
icheyneoh ok11:19
zorglu_i wrote a 30page paper on how computer WILL become smarter than human race, how they will evolve at exponantial speed (moore law) and why we should destroy them in order to preserve human race :)11:19
dennisterati has virtually nooooo linux support11:19
yetiicheyne: ati does not supply OSS drivers either, though there is a OSS driver project by the community11:19
zorglu_and made a 1hour talk about this :)11:19
icheynethis is for a new PC so maybe I should go for an onboard chip11:19
Homersee that's a cool paper11:19
dennistermy favourite paper ever was "Nietsche, music, and The Wall"11:19
icheyneyeti, do you know if the OSS driver supports any decent cards?11:19
yetiicheyne: so go for nvidia. their drivers are not OSS, but they are free as in they don't cost you anything, and they're quite good for linux11:19
nekomataI'd say choosing nvidia over ati is a smart choice regardless of OS11:19
Homerenglish major write about "use of silence in metaphysical literature"11:20
nekomataati just seems to cause problems ;.;11:20
georgebzorglu_: moore's law is more like a guess; someday this will stop11:20
icheynethanks guys11:20
dennisterwhenever i get my htpc working wtih linux, ok?11:20
zorglu_georgeb: they started saying that in early 90's :)11:20
Tokeiitobut as i see qtparted dont have function resize partition :|11:20
icheyneI've got an nvidia card now but I'm just wondering what I should get in a new machine11:20
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icheyneI suppose I should go for one of the Intel onboard chips as I'm not too much of a gamer11:21
zorglu_georgeb: i guess it will stop tho, but funny they said that for 15years :)11:21
dennisterati should be firebombed..except i have some slim hope they'll improve since amd boutght them11:21
georgebzorglu_: now they have some more solid reasons :) like power usage, heat stuff & friends11:21
yetiicheyne: i'm unsure, but it's very unlikely. additionally you're not doing an "ideologically good" thing by buying ATI. buy nvidia, it's not "really ideologically good" either, but it will get you speed and stability for your money even if you have to use a non-OSS driver11:21
Tokeiitoso it's imposible to resize mine system partition withot loosing data on int11:21
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Tokeiito*it11:21
firebird619I downloaded Flashplayer 9 beta from Adobe today and the readme says place the file in the Plugins directory for the browser you use. Where is the default Plugins directory for Konqueror? Firefox?11:21
nekomatadennister: meanwhile I fear that they will infect AMD ;.;11:21
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zorglu_georgeb: but once moore stops, you can just increase the size.11:21
yetiicheyne: and _in my opinion_, it's just silly to buy a card that costs more and is slower just because they have OSS drivers.11:21
dennisterthey better not...ati had some of the worst ethics on top of no-linux attitude11:22
zorglu_georgeb: imagine all computer of the internet acting as a single cpu :)11:22
zorglu_georgeb: just to give an idea of what the 'size' parameter may bring11:22
icheyneyeti, I suppose I could chose something slightly evil if I got to play Quake 4! ;)11:22
nekomatadennister: that -f seems to have fixed it thanks11:22
dennisterand while we're on the subject of nvidia is better on linux...can anyone help me install the driver into my new edgy installation?11:23
georgebzorglu_: yep; here's a intereseting article related to this: http://www.informit.com/articles/printerfriendly.asp?p=663085&rl=111:23
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yetiicheyne: if you want to play quake4, buy nvidia, full stop. ;)11:23
dennisterur welcome nekomata11:23
icheyne:oP11:23
dennisterfeels proud of herself she could help *somebody*11:23
garrinis there a way to change the style of the input boxes and other form elements for firefox11:23
dennister<--3mth noob11:24
georgebzorglu_: regarding all computers in the world.. hmm.. I was just thinking how big is the CPU usage caused by antiviruses on all windows systems in the world :)11:24
nekomataoops, just realised that I should probably do that install line again11:24
zorglu_georgeb: hehe :) imagine how to exploit all the idle time too :)11:24
georgebzorglu_: and also, regarding the earlier math problem, it reminds me of http://www.themathlab.com/geometry/funnyproofs.htm   #12 in the list :)11:24
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dennisterperhaps this will help me get some help?11:25
dennistermuch better: anyone install the nvidia driver on edgy yet? i'm having unexplained errors11:25
BluesKajzorglu_, should we linux users worry about spyware , and viruses ?11:26
yetidennister: what's the problem? i upgraded from dapper to edgy and had no problems with it, if i remember correctly11:26
shadowhywind_can anyone help with some slow iwireless speeds? any ideas?11:26
yetiBluesKaj: you should ALWAYS worry in terms of never do anything stupid like installing software from unknown sources where you can't verify the source code11:26
dennisteryeti: i installed the right kernel, rebooted, then the nvdia-glx, then in konsole did the command: nvdia-glx-config enable11:27
shadowhywind_connects to the wireless router fine, but not any website11:27
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georgebfirebird619: for mozilla ~/.mozilla/plugins/11:27
BluesKajyeti, verify the source code ?...gimme a break11:27
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dennisterbut konsole keeps telling me: Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel.11:28
moma82hi11:28
firebird619georgeb: Ok, what about Konqueror, firefox hasn't been working right, I open it and seconds later it closes.11:28
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moma82may someone help me with synce and my htc prophet ppc11:28
yetiBluesKaj: well, what i meant to say is: if someone tells you: "test this program, its leet!" and gives you a link to some weird ftp server, then don't let any of this stuff gain root privileges11:28
moma82i want to connect my ppc with my kubuntu11:28
moma82but i dont know how can i do it11:28
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yetiBluesKaj: but with software from the repositories, i don't think you need to worry11:29
moma82i found some pages11:29
moma82but its a liitle bit to difficult for me11:29
yetidennister: hmmm... did you install nvidia-glx from the repositories?11:29
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letalisanyone else using kopete and unable to connect to either aim or icq?11:29
dennisteryes i did...thru apt-get11:29
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dennisteroh no...it was synaptic11:30
yetidennister: did you also install nvidia-kernel-common?11:30
dennisteryep11:30
yetimhhh11:30
icheynedennister, did you replace nv with nvidia in your xorg.conf?11:30
dennisternope...not yet...was about to but got nervous11:31
icheynethat fixed it for me11:31
icheyneI did it 30 minutes ago and it worked fine11:31
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dennisterkeep the quotes surrounding 'vesa' and just replace vesa with nvidia?11:32
icheyneumm11:32
icheyneno11:32
icheynejust do a fine and replace with nv to nvidia11:32
icheynefind11:32
dennister...will try11:33
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icheynethen I did this - sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg which completely fixed me - got me 1280x1024 at 85htz refresh rate11:33
Tokeiitoin kubuntu-live cd there is gparted or smth like that?11:34
dennisterwell there seems to be no 'nv' at all in my xorg.conf file11:34
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georgebfirebird619: it automatically searches the mozilla plugin folder, in konqueror go to Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> plugins, and you can see a list of folders it checks for plugins and a list o plugins already found11:34
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firebird619georgeb: Ok, Thanks for your help.11:35
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georgebfirebird619: np11:36
candybanHmmz ... how can I add the latest wine sources to my apt? (I added the lines in my sources.list, apt-get update, but it still says 0.9.22 instead of 0.9.24)11:36
georgeb!wine11:36
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.11:36
georgeb!atm11:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about atm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:36
georgebhuh ? what's zennix ? he tries to get me drunk :)11:37
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dennisterhmmm...why is there no 'nv' at all in my conf file?...graphics was detected at start as an nvdia11:37
candybangeorgeb: I did all that ...11:37
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candybangeorgeb: "Ign http://wine.budgetdedicated.com edgy/main Package"11:38
dennisteraha! methinks it was because i forgot to change it at all in control center11:39
icheynedennister, did you do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?11:39
dennisterno...this is the first i heard u had to do this11:39
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dennisterlet me change the card from vesa to nv in control center first, then xorg might have the 'nv' instead of 'vesa'...then it might all work11:40
icheyneit's worth a try11:40
icheyneselect nvidia for graphics11:40
icheyneand choose the defaults11:40
georgebcandyban: what' s ign ?11:40
icheynethe monitor autodetect and simple options are generally OK11:40
icheynedennister, ok11:40
candybanWhen I run apt-get update11:40
candybanIt says ign (I think ignore?)11:40
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IceDhello11:41
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IceDis there any guide about adsl setup?11:41
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digivoredoes anyone know if i can partition a flash drive?11:41
bLaZeDcan anyone help me with this http://pastebin.ulteo.us/20111:42
georgebcandyban: try apt-cache madison wine to see in wich repos wine is found11:42
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dennisterhi bLaZeD11:43
dennisterbbs...will have to reboot11:43
dennisteror restart anyway11:43
bLaZeDdennister, hello...i have to reboot?11:44
georgebcandyban: try apt-get install wine=0.9.24~winehq0~ubuntu~6.10-111:44
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candybangeorgeb: How come it tries to install 0.9.22 by default? (even though I have it pinned)11:47
edgaracabo de instlar ubuntu11:47
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ubuntuhi11:47
candybanah ... because it can't be authenticated?11:47
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ubuntuselam trk varm aranzda11:47
edgarponer respositorios alguien me oude ayudar11:48
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candybanedgar: many thanks :)11:49
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georgeb!br11:49
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.11:49
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ubuntucan you hear me?:D11:50
ubuntuesesssssssssssss?11:50
georgeb!tk | ubuntu11:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:51
georgeb!tr | ubuntu11:51
ubotuubuntu: Turk ubuntu kullanicilari, turkce yardim yada geyik icin #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.11:51
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moma82join #synce11:56
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mc_i have 2 sound cards,how do set the default one?11:57
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mc_nevermind11:58
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moma82#ppc11:58
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dennisterok...no joy12:02
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dennisterhi coreymon12:03
superkirbyartistI need help.  Kubuntu boots on PowerPC, splash screen, but no desktop :-(.12:03
dennisterget in line superkirbyartist :)12:03
dennisterj/k12:04
superkirbyartistBut really.12:04
dennisteri still can't seem to get the nvidia-glx isntalled properly in this edgy12:04
superkirbyartistI really need to find out what's wrong.  iMac G3.12:04
dennisteranyone?12:04
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dennisteri understand superkirbyartist, i'm where u are, and that's what we're here for: to help12:05
dennisteralthough i can't say i help much...too much of a noob12:05
Dr_Willisdennister:  hmm. i had no issues with nvidia-glx stuff and edgy.. on a clean install12:05
dennisterthis is a clean install too12:05
Dr_Willisinstall a few pacakges, run that one command.. restart X server.12:06
superkirbyartistAnyone can help me get on my startx desktop?12:06
Dr_WillisI guess basic trouble shooting.. try 'startx' in a console and see whar error messages show up./12:06
dennisterok...i'll try to install some more...12:06
superkirbyartistNone.12:06
superkirbyartistBlack screen after splash bar all the way full.12:07
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superkirbyartist?12:07
superkirbyartistDr Willis?12:07
Dr_Willisdisable the annoying splash, and framebuffers. with the 'nosplash' and 'nofb' options , by editing the grub menu kernel= lines.12:07
Dr_WillisI cant tell much untill we get some information/error messages/12:08
superkirbyartistI have Yaboot on powerpc.12:08
Dr_WillisOne of the many reasons i hate all tis eye candy..12:08
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superkirbyartistNo GRUB12:08
Dr_Willissuperkirbyartist:  no idea aboyt Yaboot or if you can edit the boot lines.. id hope so.. if not.. well time to learn how to boot to single user mode i guess.12:08
superkirbyartist?12:09
Dr_Willisbasicially we need to get to a working console, then start trouble shooting.12:09
superkirbyartistI can get a console.12:09
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Dr_Willisat the console then, try 'startx' and see what error messages show up.12:09
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superkirbyartistIf I type startx the splash loads.12:10
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Dr_Willisso it seem,s to try to load kde, then hangs eh?12:10
superkirbyartistBlack screen, yes.12:10
Dr_Willisuse alt-ctrl-backspace to kill X. and try the command 'X'12:11
superkirbyartistMaybe it's a problem with the internal monitor.  Be right back.12:11
superkirbyartistSure.12:11
Dr_Willissee if ya get a screen and a CUrsor.12:11

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