| robertj_ | anythong new in -directory land? | 12:06 |
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| robertj_ | i s this the quiet before the storm? | 12:06 |
| ajmitch | quiet before people meet up in person | 12:09 |
| === ajmitch just had a 12 hour flight | ||
| ajmitch | & so I'm off to have a shower now :) | 12:09 |
| robertj_ | is krb5-kdc not in any .schema? | 12:57 |
| robertj_ | err any .deb | 01:03 |
| robertj_ | krb5-kdc.schema is MIA according to apt-file | 01:03 |
| lophyte | arr.. | 01:41 |
| === lophyte wishes he was at the uds | ||
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| wasabi_ | hi | 04:16 |
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| ajmitch | hi wasabi | 05:09 |
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| nkassi | Hey | 06:01 |
| bmonty | hi nkassi | 06:01 |
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| ajmitch | morning all | 06:09 |
| ajforgue | shut up, n00b. | 06:09 |
| ajforgue | roflcopter | 06:10 |
| nkassi | Does Gconf have a way to pull info from an ldap server ? | 06:10 |
| bmonty | nkassi: I saw some info about pulling settings for evolution from LDAP into gconf | 06:11 |
| bmonty | I don't think the code is maintained anymore though | 06:11 |
| nkassi | evolution-gconf-ldap-backend Just saw that on google | 06:11 |
| bmonty | other than that I havn;' | 06:12 |
| bmonty | grr | 06:12 |
| nkassi | that sucks. | 06:13 |
| bmonty | I have not seen anything other than that | 06:13 |
| nkassi | I was thinking that it would be possible to use that to create *gulp* GPOs | 06:13 |
| nkassi | At least to control the desktop | 06:14 |
| bmonty | nkassi: it makes sense to me | 06:14 |
| bmonty | kinda like the windows registry can override local machine settings with domain settings | 06:15 |
| nkassi | exactly | 06:15 |
| nkassi | http://www.gnome.org/projects/gconf/plans.html | 06:16 |
| nkassi | according to that it's already been done twice. | 06:17 |
| ajmitch | nkassi: I've looked at the code, it's fairly ioncomplete/old | 06:28 |
| nkassi | so no luck on that one I guess. | 06:51 |
| ajmitch | unless someone wants to do some coding :) | 06:52 |
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| wasabi_ | who's here? | 06:55 |
| ajforgue | nobody | 06:55 |
| ajforgue | ajmitch is here too | 06:55 |
| ajmitch | sort of | 06:55 |
| wasabi_ | Hhe. | 06:55 |
| ajmitch | wasabi_: going to edubuntu network auth server spec session at 11? | 06:56 |
| wasabi_ | Most definitly. | 06:56 |
| ajmitch | great | 06:57 |
| ajmitch | ogra is right in front of me now | 06:57 |
| wasabi_ | LP is slow. =( | 06:58 |
| ajmitch | always | 06:58 |
| wasabi_ | okay where is everybody? haha | 07:03 |
| wasabi_ | ???? | 07:08 |
| ajmitch | forums arguments | 07:11 |
| wasabi_ | where are you? | 07:11 |
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| bmonty | what room number is the edubuntu network auth server discussion? | 08:02 |
| bmonty | nevermind, I found it just needed a page refresh | 08:03 |
| robertj_ | will recordings of the meetings be online or do we need to listen in via sip | 08:03 |
| bmonty | both are available | 08:04 |
| robertj_ | well I'm sure there are enough competent people there so I'll catch up later | 08:05 |
| ajmitch | we're just in the room now | 08:05 |
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| bmonty | ajmitch: I'm listening to the VOIP room | 08:06 |
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| ajmitch | anything interesting? :) | 08:10 |
| bmonty | not yet | 08:13 |
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| === robertj_ can't make out anything in 5001 | ||
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| robertj_ | ahh cleared up | 09:50 |
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| robertj_ | wasabi_: so what happened in edubuntu network auth? | 11:27 |
| robertj_ | I tried to listen in but my machine conspired against me | 11:27 |
| ajmitch | basically they'll use smbldap-tools, they need stuff working asap | 11:29 |
| robertj_ | did they decide on openldap then? | 11:30 |
| wasabi_ | they did not decide. | 11:30 |
| wasabi_ | If we can get FDS packed they'll consider it | 11:30 |
| wasabi_ | I'm not that concerned either way. Whatever they do will have very limited scope... small schools, etc. | 11:31 |
| wasabi_ | And hopefully it'll get them working on the same stuff we know they need to be working on anyways? heh | 11:31 |
| ajmitch | any multi-server stuff will be fairly basic - mostly just 1 auth server for everything | 11:31 |
| wasabi_ | Ya know, principal unplugs his laptop, NSS blocks. | 11:31 |
| wasabi_ | Yeah. I suspect they aren't going to touch on kerberos much. ogre said he had some more meetups scheduled for it. | 11:32 |
| wasabi_ | I suspect they'll run into the same things we're already considering when they start talkinga bout large districts connected together, and various security requirements in the US, etc etc | 11:33 |
| wasabi_ | kbuntu samba integration next hour? | 11:34 |
| wasabi_ | Wonder what that's about. | 11:34 |
| robertj_ | did you see GOOG's plans for a 20k annual donation to SMB? | 11:35 |
| robertj_ | (recurring annually that is) | 11:35 |
| wasabi_ | Woh. No. | 11:35 |
| robertj_ | make no mistake, to GOOG it is chump change, but like I said, samba 4 has _got_ to work | 11:36 |
| bmonty | wasabi_: kubuntu samba integration is about making it easier to mount smb shares in KDE | 11:38 |
| wasabi_ | ahh. | 11:38 |
| bmonty | doesn't look like a directory services type topic | 11:38 |
| robertj_ | although ironically OS X uses structured network views to do just that | 11:41 |
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| robertj_ | wasabi_: but to put things in perspective, if you are in the middle of a rural school district you probably don't have hardware that can really deliver enough 9's, so a very limited scope is probably pretty realistic | 11:50 |
| robertj_ | although alot of those issues go away if home directories are synced and credentials cached vs mounting | 11:51 |
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| wasabi_ | Sure. Worst case scenarios apply though. | 11:52 |
| wasabi_ | Server goes down, entire school locks up. | 11:52 |
| wasabi_ | Not being able to access network resources is one thing, losing open documents because the filechooser tried to lookup a uid and the server was gone, is another. | 11:52 |
| robertj_ | wasabi: and for that reason I think you will see a lot of schools with only student desktops being managed in such a fashion, at least until syncing replaces mounting | 11:54 |
| abartlet | wasabi_: which uid are they going to be looking up? | 11:55 |
| wasabi_ | Heh. Good point. | 11:56 |
| abartlet | most users operate with files in their own uid, or at least their supplementary groups | 11:56 |
| abartlet | and most gui apps don't display the user anyway | 11:56 |
| abartlet | so, the user and their supplementary groups are 'easy' to cache | 11:56 |
| wasabi_ | How does winbind deal with that anyways? it has a password cache built in right? | 11:57 |
| ajmitch | hey abartlet | 11:57 |
| wasabi_ | But also a lookup one, but under what criteria is the record cached? | 11:57 |
| abartlet | easy | 11:57 |
| abartlet | at login time, it is a sensible decision to cache information about the user who just logged in | 11:58 |
| abartlet | ie, all the groups returned in the initgroups() | 11:58 |
| abartlet | you probably have that anyway, as part of processing the initgroups | 11:58 |
| abartlet | we aggressivly cache the user -> group list information at login time | 11:59 |
| abartlet | taken from either the PAC, or the 'info3' reply from a NTLM SamLogon request | 11:59 |
| wasabi_ | Heh. I really want to have a conversation with somebody about my winbind->somethingelse idea. | 12:00 |
| abartlet | what would the something else be? | 12:01 |
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