=== poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-68-178.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:04] well that blew [01:05] we had one guy come by for the installfest [01:05] sad [01:05] where? [01:05] gainesville fl [01:05] see this was meant for non-students in a college town [01:06] Aaah [01:08] yeah so it was far away from campus [01:08] we didnt advertize on campus [01:08] hit all the grocery shops... craigslist... other random areas for flyering [01:09] apperantly the residents just arent that interested [01:24] installfests are a challenge [01:25] here is what I would do: make it a bring an old computer and install linux for donation fest [01:27] we had awesome success for oncampus stuff [01:28] its just the lug wanted to try something offcampus === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #uBUNtu-MARKeting === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [01:46] poningru: I'd love to get some oncampus stuff going - any tips from your success there? [01:52] Hey all, feedback welcome on http://www.tonyyarusso.is-a-geek.com/images/ *custom.svg [01:52] (Slightly modified versions of some that I think Madpilot gave me) [01:53] tonyyarusso: I didn't click, but is that the OBEY Ubuntu thing he's working on? [01:54] lotusleaf: No, CD display stand. [01:54] tonyyarusso: oh? Awesome === scamboy [n=scamboy@203.92.154.36] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:03] helo.. [02:04] hi [02:05] lotusleaf: so this is the marketing team for ubuntu??? [02:05] scamboy: see topic :) [02:06] hmn..... [02:06] so where does the marketing team based on asia??? or except isle where are they?? [02:08] huh? [02:09] hah? [02:10] scamboy, the marketing team is just a group from the community that wants to promote Ubuntu [02:10] scamboy, nothing like a real marketing team [02:11] oic [02:12] so wat is the benefit of this channel?? [02:12] to talk about ubuntu marketing... :) [02:13] i know...but how it works? this channel supports me or i support the channel?? [02:16] tonyyarusso, why is it the cool thing to do nowadays to install windows 3.1 in an emulator? :P [02:16] scamboy, uhh, we just discuss how we promote ubuntu [02:16] BHSPitLappy: Not so much cool as possible. Although, my dad liked 3.1, so maybe he'll get a kick out of it [02:16] posters and free cd covers and etc [02:17] tonyyarusso, you're not the only person I've seen playing with that recently [02:17] hmn..now i understand..thanks..8-) [02:17] was it recently made possible? [02:17] no idea [02:18] did you have to pirate it? or are you vintage enough to have some floppies lying around :) [02:19] don't waste your time with old versions of windows, if you want to be 1337 you'll run Amiga or C= [02:19] theCore: I need to learn how to make/use a chroot... [02:19] BHSPitLappy: People have it available for download. Not sure if it's still technically pirating or if they wouldn't care any more. [02:20] BHSPitLappy: Although, yes, we do have floppies, as well as a functional machine, but that's at my other house. [02:20] tonyyarusso, MS probably still offers it to retailers with a suggested price of $79 [02:20] That's funny [02:21] Hmm...how many pieces of cardstock can I waste making mistakes? [02:21] Apparently there was a reason there were only 5 bullet points on the original [02:21] use paper first [02:22] and, by the way, I wasn't exactly drooling over the design you linked us to :/ [02:22] tonyyarusso, https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/appendix-chroot.html [02:23] BHSPitLappy: Suggestions? (Someone else made it, I just modded text) [02:23] ah. [02:23] well, it looks pretty unprofessional in its current state [02:23] tonyyarusso, downloads the latest debootstrap and follow the instructions [02:23] like a 6th grade MS Office class project or something [02:24] BHSPitLappy: So to fix that you would ____? [02:24] tonyyarusso, don't forget to change "edgy" for "feisty" in the commands [02:24] "redo it myself" :P [02:24] theCore: All right, looks not-too-bad [02:24] BHSPitLappy: How though? [02:25] It doesn't help to say that it should be "different" only. [02:25] well, are you printing it with an inkjet or are you going to have something professionally done [02:25] inkjet [02:25] ok, so we don't need to be too conscious of # of colors [02:26] second, do you have any photos of what that template looks like folded up? I'm not quick enough to tell just from the net [02:32] I don't, although one exists somewhere. [02:34] BHSPitLappy: Here we go: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=full.jpg === scamboy [n=scamboy@203.92.154.36] has left #ubuntu-marketing [] [02:34] hmm, didn't realize it looked like that [02:35] I was thinking it was like a full-blown AOL cd dispenser or something :P [02:36] and you're stocking it with shipits? [02:40] Next time I get some. For now I just have home-burned. [02:41] I should order some, but I'm sad they aren't shipping Edgy === ompaul [n=ompaul@ubuntu/member/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [02:50] me too [02:58] tonyyarusso: that's why I'm burning edgy cds and dvds for distribution [02:59] lotusleaf: Yeah, I have 13 of those left as well, but some people like the official-looking ones [02:59] tonyyarusso: so print out a label for it [02:59] and stick it on em ;) [02:59] http://flickr.com/photos/78122667@N00/153803178 <-- how much you want to be that is a fake..i asked an ubuntu question today, and got a "no comment" [02:59] lotusleaf: Yeah, that would be good. Should figure out how to do that. [03:02] nixternal: heh [03:03] that guy is out there...i wanted to pie him so bad, but i was told i would be arrested for even attempting it [03:03] lol [03:03] I love the Gates pie video === rjian [n=L10nscri@203.111.235.139] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [04:47] Burgundavia: hey dude who do I talk to re: ubuntu iso returning bad mime type [04:47] err as in the website [04:47] the website or a mirror? [04:47] hold on asking [04:51] the columbia mirrors [04:51] BHSPitLappy: why do you like the gates pie vid? [04:51] kinda lame if you ask me [04:52] because it's funny [04:52] like HA! PIED! === poningru shrugs [04:52] out of nowhere [04:53] and they looked all vicious, like it was some actual attack or assassination [04:53] but it's a -pastry- [04:58] So, do we have a sensible doc on uploading to our bzr setup yet? [04:59] nope [05:00] Burgundavia, no? What did you do all day, sleep? ;) [05:00] half of it [05:00] then I played video games, cleaned my room and ate [05:01] a productive Saturday. I got paid to sit at a desk, watch the awful weather, and check my personal email. [05:03] well, to start with one basic step, what's involved in generating the SSH key that LP needs? [05:04] hold on that doc is written [05:05] http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_use_key_based_SSH_authentication === poningru ducks [05:05] ubuntuguide? :O [05:06] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto#head-1ff9e61cfd81e9f741920b6920af8a85f7bddb30 [05:06] There we go [05:06] :p [05:06] tonyyarusso: re: your earlier comment re: college success [05:07] poningru: Ah, yes? [05:07] I am starting up a college wiki page for marketing [05:07] Sweet [05:07] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MarketingTeam/College [05:07] still half done [05:08] err more like 1/10 done [05:08] poningru, I wish I could find other linux users my age === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:09] BHSPitLappy: how old are you? === poningru is afraid to ask [05:09] 17. [05:09] loads of lin users [05:09] and a high school free software club probably wouldn't take off here [05:10] hehe yeah better to wait that year till you get to college [05:10] I really do think I might be the most knowledgeable person at school when it comes to linux, and that's not saying TOO much [05:18] with an SSH key fingerprint, is the user@hostname bit part of the fingerprint or not? [05:22] yes [05:23] got that - LP wanted the whole paste of .ssh/id_dsa.pub anyway, not just the fingerprint [05:26] bbl [05:26] like half an hour later [05:29] Burgundavia, what was the sftp URL for the bzr repo? Forgot to write it down... [05:29] look on our LP page [05:35] there was some other package I needed to make bzr via sftp work, wasn't there? [05:37] BHSPitLappy, eh, I know that feeling... [05:37] weird [05:38] less than a second after I clicked on this tab, just to see what was going on, you said that [05:38] bah, it just a good timing [05:38] or you're watching me through the blinds... === theCore is unmasked :) [05:40] Linux users are hard to find outside of LUG and IRC [05:40] I might start a Youth LUG [05:40] That would be cool. A LUG that's not by region? [05:41] I was thinking that, should it be a regional one still or be worldwide [05:41] the real point of a LUG is to have people you can actually hang out with in person, right [05:41] BHSPitLappy, yep [05:41] a global, online LUG would be kind of moot [05:42] I can just go into #ubuntu or something, and say WHO'S A TEEN? WANNA PM? [05:42] also difficult to manage [05:42] well, that's a so-so idea ,,, [05:42] also, I don't really want to pay for a domain name or anything [05:42] theCore, yeah : [05:42] :P [05:43] Maybe a channel rather than a LUG, make an #ubuntu-teens, along the same vein as #ubuntu-women [05:43] I didn't know about the women one [05:43] do you have to contact anyone to authorize/officialize a #ubuntu-xxxxxx channel [05:43] It's not very active, but it exists. [05:43] BHSPitLappy, but, hey you don't have to search far, far to find a young linux user :P [05:43] Yes, Seveas is in charge of Ubuntu's IRC presence. [05:44] theCore, depends on where you live. [05:44] I personally think there should be more sub-channels for ubuntu [05:44] the main one is too ambiguous and crowded [05:44] I mean just for support related topics [05:45] #ubuntu-wireless or -laptop or whatever for example [05:45] well, there's -offtopic and -trivia :) [05:46] BHSPitLappy: There is a laptop one. [05:46] yeah [05:46] I just mean that idea [05:47] #ubuntu-xgl probably deserves a rename/redirect now; it's still the best place probably to get support with accelerated graphics stuff, but the title doesn't really say it right anymore [05:48] BHSPitLappy, #ubuntu-how-to-crash-your-system, perhaps? [05:49] Madpilot, :) [05:49] har. [05:50] BHSPitLappy, so, where are you from? [05:50] tx [05:50] texas? [05:50] yeah. [05:50] my IP mask isn't too shy about that one [05:52] BHSPitLappy, http://www.linux.org/groups/usa/texas.html [05:52] I'm familiar with that page and its contents, thanks [05:52] maybe there's a LUG that you could join... [05:53] both the FWLUG and the NTLUG are a little too much "old men club" for me, no offense to old men [05:53] hehe [05:53] find a GNOME club then [05:54] kids like me don't want to hang out with the dad's generation [05:54] ha [05:54] GNOME peoples are usually younger [05:54] people* [05:58] I didn't know they existed. [05:58] Gnomes are fairy tale creatures! [05:59] BHSPitLappy, eh [05:59] BHSPitLappy, or you could do like me, and hang on IRC [05:59] IRC has lost its excitement [06:04] BHSPitLappy, you could search for a LoCo team [06:04] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamList [06:06] meet "Real People" TM [06:07] OK, after wasting two days with bzr, I've done what I should have done in the first place - put the images I wanted to share on webspace I actually have access to: http://ubuntu-ca.org/Ubuntu_roughcut_poster/ [06:08] there already is one, really [06:08] the Dallas LoCo team listed there seems nonexistent [06:08] their listed channel isn't even registered [06:09] it occurs me that we probably need web-based system [06:09] BHSPitLappy: how close to houston are you? [06:09] Burgundavia: for? [06:09] meeting people/ [06:09] no, for our documents [06:10] uh... bzr? [06:10] Burgundavia, how about svn instead of bzr? Seems simpler, frankly [06:10] webbased is nice [06:10] so svn to download, etc. [06:10] poningru, about 5 hours close. [06:10] plus accessible to everybody, including those stuck on windows or machines they don't control [06:10] hmm true === poningru whips up a php app [06:11] poningru: check out knowledge tre [06:11] I know bzr is Ubuntu's shiny pet thing, but svn is stupidly easy to set up... [06:11] Madpilot++ [06:11] we already have an svn repo, but it isn't perfect [06:13] webbased means easy account control [06:14] LP is webbased, supposedly has easy account control... but the docteam's svn repo is still far easier to set up (write) access to than our bzr repo... [06:14] that isn't what I am talking about [06:14] I am talking about a DMS [06:14] a what? [06:15] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Document_management_system [06:15] http://www.ktdms.com/ [06:16] sadly it is php, and doens't work on php5 at that [06:18] um, how does a DMS differ from a managed repo thru svn/bzr/etc? [06:18] it is entirely web-based [06:19] no commandline tools to master, etc. [06:21] is the problem with bzr the commandline, or the documentation quality? [06:21] the commandline [06:21] it is beast to setup, etc. [06:21] look how many more people edit the wiki vs our svn [06:22] I can edit the wiki at work [06:24] hey Burgundavia, i have a BZR tutorial written up, drafted right now, if you want to take a look at it [06:24] it is still a little rough around the edges, but the content is there [06:27] nixternal: link? [06:27] Burgundavia: how about... a wiki? [06:28] whats new here? [06:28] HeheHehe [06:28] not good for documents [06:28] Burgundavia: how so? [06:28] no version control, no acls, beast to upload stuff [06:28] I've never seen sabdfl online before [06:28] I feel so blessed :P [06:28] Burgundavia: ofcourse there is a version control [06:29] for pages, not documents [06:29] I am talking about things like posters and the like [06:29] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/bzr [06:29] oh [06:29] wait wtf [06:29] bzr is gpl? [06:29] yes [06:29] I thought it was in the same boat as lp [06:29] no, far from it [06:29] hell no [06:30] thank god ;) [06:30] woah thats a resounding no [06:30] stupid enter key messed me up [06:30] poningru: Wow, you weren't kidding about it being a work in progress. [06:30] ya, made it sound like i was being a d0rk [06:30] tonyyarusso: :p [06:31] there hasn't been any spell checking or grammar checking..i just threw down words and instructions...if more needs to be added it can be [06:41] Madpilot: did you get those posted yet, or do you want me to go ahead and do so? [06:41] nixternal, go ahead and add them to the marketing repo [06:41] will do! [06:41] thanks [06:42] and the download begins! [06:45] interesting - I just realized that the SVG of that poster is actually larger (in Kb) than the PNG version - usually it's the other way around. [06:49] did you vacuum defs on it? [06:49] that will shrink the size of it [06:50] Madpilot: which directory do you want them to go into? [06:51] Burgundavia, no, I didn't, actually [06:51] man, the Marketing Branch is Windows directory naming =/ [06:51] wtf [06:51] ya, naming with spaces [06:51] it makes tab completes so much fun [06:52] nixternal, how about a new directory in DIYMarketing called Ubuntu_posters_roughcut or similar? I've no idea if jenda has a plan for naming, however [06:52] Madpilot: that shrunk it considerably [06:52] got it [06:52] nixternal: can you vacuum defs on that sucker? [06:53] i have no idea on how to do that now [06:53] im an inkscape idiot [06:53] open inkscape [06:53] file > vacuum defs [06:53] gahaha [06:53] i can do that i think ;) [06:53] I think you can [06:54] Burgundavia, considerably? I got a whole 2kb drop - from 348 to 346Kb... [06:54] hmm [06:56] what is wirelizard? [06:59] the very small graphic in the bottom righthand corner of the poster. Zoom in on the SVG version. [07:00] man, that branch isn't setup correctly at all [07:00] i can't commit either, i had to commit --local and then push the damn thing [07:00] the other problem with using complicated tool [07:00] but where is the name from? [07:01] Burgundavia, the Wirelizard name? The inside of my head, which is strange & thankfully uncharted territory ;) [07:01] ah, right [07:01] the lizard itself started as a PD OCAL SVG, which I basically rebuilt for my own amusement [07:10] alrighty...this little learning experience caused me to write up a troubleshooting section on that bzr doco [07:11] need a good wiki name before i move it to /community/ [07:12] LaunchpadBazaarUse [07:15] wonder how many users are jumping ship from OpenSUSE right now? [07:16] where is there IRC channels? [07:16] lets go spy [07:16] are there, you mean? [07:16] no idea [07:16] ya, they are somewhere around here [07:17] hmm, irc.opensuse.org exists [07:17] they are on freenode [07:17] lol [07:17] irc.opensuse.org == freenode ;) [07:17] #openSUSE [07:17] #openSUSE-chat for OT [07:17] -fud [07:17] #openSUSE-project [07:17] hahaha [07:18] Burgundavia, wouldn't that be #novell-fud? === nixternal goes to #openSUSE-chat [07:18] gahahaha, 4 people [07:18] 190 users [07:18] man, i did that and lagged [07:19] where is suse getting all their hits on Distrowatch from? [07:19] we are going in with ubuntu member tags as well [07:19] from bogus links..don't follow distrowatch, as it is easy to hack now [07:19] why is it easy to hack? [07:20] burg [07:20] #opensuse-fud [07:20] was in there [07:20] that is the novell/ms discussion chan [07:20] oh [07:20] damn..i look like a fool then [07:21] us joining/parting doesn't look good either [07:21] but ummm, oh well, thats the way the cookie crumbles ;) [07:22] meh [07:22] evil Ubuntu users snooping in and out :) [07:22] rofl [07:22] http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse/2006-11/msg00132.html [07:23] haha [07:23] oh wow, you just busted a dev with that Burgundavia ;) [07:23] yep [07:23] hahahah [07:23] that is an Ubuntu Dev saying that...i seen the name and flipped a nut [07:25] interesting...i thought he was a dev..oh, he is an IRC op..thats where i know him from [07:25] hahahaha [07:25] > > I know this isn't your fault, and I'm sorry I have to stop using your [07:25] > > excellent work. I'm sad to have to change to another distro, I've been a [07:25] > > fanboy since SuSE 8.0, but this deal is just disgusting. [07:25] Agreed, it is very disgusting, like going home to find your wife in bed with [07:25] the worst guy of the office. [07:26] oops...but hahahahahahahahahahaha [07:26] that is pretty funny [07:26] I feel sorry for the opensuse and N devs [07:26] they are getting shit on by the community [07:26] me too [07:26] i hope they goto red hat truthfully [07:26] or to us of course [07:26] but most of them rpm guys will probably head over to fedora and what not [07:27] "Hug a Novell engineer today: It's not their fault" <-- from the gnome-hackers chan topic [07:27] next GUADEC should be interesting [07:27] hahahhahahahaha [07:28] i so wish i could find the picture someone did of the Edgy Lizard doing the SUSE Lizard..thta was classic [07:29] some lizard love for the Suse iguana? [07:30] yup [07:30] i seen it around july/august [07:30] http://www.google.com/search?q=ubuntu%20fucking%20suse&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 [07:30] take a look at the first hit [07:31] hahahaha [07:34] do I wanna click? [07:35] the first link is just a Digg rantpage [07:36] ah [07:36] digg rantage is funny [07:37] odd def'n of 'funny' you have ;) === poningru fills room with laughing gas === nixternal faints [07:41] THAT IS METHANE, NOT NITROUS!!! [07:42] *spark* === poningru ducks [07:42] ^^W^^W^^BOOM^^WW^^WW^^ [07:43] http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,,1939890,00.html <-- hate your neighbours? knock his house down [07:51] nixternal, how often is the web portion of Marketing's bzr repo rebuilt, any idea? [07:51] the one on the doc server? [07:51] yes [07:51] i really don't know [07:52] well, by the looks of it Madpilot, i would have to say soon [07:52] [jenda] idle 38:11:26 <-- I suspect he's not around to ask [07:52] heh, guess not [07:53] i wonder if there is just a bzr cron running that stats the branch, and then upgrades/updates the doc server [07:54] yes, there is a cron job [07:54] you know..there is ssh to that server as well..i just can't remember the info [07:55] Madpilot knows that [07:55] heh [07:55] 'cause he scp'ed something tehre [07:55] scp then, or fish if you have kde goodness [07:55] right, but the scp'd stuff gets eaten & 404's [07:56] hrmm [07:56] the cron job nukes the folder and rebuilds it [07:56] do you see why need something better? [07:56] ahh [07:57] alrighty..im crashing..my day was filled with work, rms, and ignorance [07:57] g'nite all [07:57] night nixternal [08:02] oh right today was the rms thing [08:02] nn dude [08:56] http://blog.wired.com/halloween2006/2006/11/ubuntu_pumpkin.html [09:40] that's so sad [09:40] why would someone do that? [10:51]