[06:02] <sbalneav> Evening all
[10:02] <cbx33> mornin all
[10:03] <highvoltage> morning cbx33 
[10:03] <cbx33> highvoltage: hey
[10:03] <highvoltage> howzit going?
[10:04] <cbx33> got a problem at the mo :( - apt-get remove nvidia-glx tries to remove ubuntu-desktop and the entire set of xorg pacakges
[10:04] <cbx33> other than that...
[10:04] <cbx33> my office is a mess
[10:05] <highvoltage> heh
[10:05] <highvoltage> well, last night I couldn't sleep, I got a big bunch of exciting ideas and couldn't stop thinking about them.
[10:05] <cbx33> cool
[10:05] <cbx33> that's gotta be good
[10:05] <highvoltage> only got to sleep 1am, then woke up at 2am and got more ideas.
[10:05] <highvoltage> eventually got to sleep 4am again
[10:05] <cbx33> my initial musings with gstreamer are working well
[10:06] <highvoltage> and when I woke up, I totally forgot what kept me up last night.
[10:06] <cbx33> so you forgot all your ideas?
[10:06] <highvoltage> yes :(
[10:06] <highvoltage> i remember thinking up huge amounts of code in my head too, and even troubleshooting it :)
[10:07] <highvoltage> my new policy is that if I get inspiration late in the evening, I'm going to work instead, not try to sleep.
[10:07] <highvoltage> because now I've lost a nights sleep, and I'll be useless during most of today- double loss. I should've worked instead and slept late this morning.
[10:09] <cbx33> awww
[10:10] <highvoltage> at least my office space is clean for a change :)
[10:11] <cbx33> hehe
[10:11] <cbx33> yeh I really gotta sort that today
[10:11] <cbx33> highvoltage: you don;t have any nvidia machines handy do you?
[10:44] <pygi> wb cbx33 ;)
[10:46] <JonathanFerguson> I've got a problem with sqlite, enenthough there isn't sqlite per se, in 6.06.1
[10:47] <JonathanFerguson> The program I run under Mono, has it's own sqlite in it.
[10:47] <JonathanFerguson> Can Edubuntu be confusing sqlite for sqlsharp?
[10:48] <pygi> JonathanFerguson: no :)
[10:49] <JonathanFerguson> The alternative is to use MySQL, but it's been very painful, unlike version 5 under Apple 10.3.2 which was straight forward.
[11:07] <cbx33> do I see that the SCP spec is being discuss today or has already been discussed
[11:10] <cbx33> if it's already been discussed I'll throw a hissy fit ;)
[11:35] <highvoltage> oh dear.
[11:35] <cbx33> hehe
[11:35] <cbx33> http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/uds-mtv/2006-11-05/
[11:35] <cbx33> is a little misleading
[12:04] <[118] Gatekeeper> hi 
[12:05] <[118] Gatekeeper> can someone answer some questens about edubunto 
[12:05] <cbx33> we can try
[12:06] <[118] Gatekeeper> i have get a pc from a customer 
[12:06] <[118] Gatekeeper> he say install edubunto 
[12:06] <[118] Gatekeeper> so i insert the cd a bott 
[12:06] <[118] Gatekeeper> and boot 
[12:07] <[118] Gatekeeper> bot after loading kernel and initrd the system hangup 
[12:07] <edubuntugirl> [118] Gatekeeper: excuse me?
[12:07] <[118] Gatekeeper> yes ?
[12:08] <Kamping_Kaiser> any errors?
[12:08] <[118] Gatekeeper> yes 
[12:08] <[118] Gatekeeper> the pc acer aspire E500
[12:09] <cbx33> is there no disk activity at all
[12:10] <[118] Gatekeeper> http://acer.de/acereuro/page9.do?sp=page4&dau34.oid=11670&UserCtxParam=0&GroupCtxParam=0&dctx1=9&CountryISOCtxParam=DE&LanguageISOCtxParam=de&ctx3=-1&ctx4=Deutschland&crc=2231436766
[12:10] <[118] Gatekeeper> ne 
[12:10] <[118] Gatekeeper> nothig 
[12:11] <[118] Gatekeeper> i have 2 disks: ubunto server; knoppix 5
[12:11] <[118] Gatekeeper> i have 2 disks: ubunto server; knoppix 4
[12:13] <[118] Gatekeeper> the customer dont give me the root passwd, so i have started with knoppix and chroot to primary disk and than passwd to change rott password 
[12:13] <cbx33> ok
[12:13] <[118] Gatekeeper> and now the system hang up @ boot 
[12:13] <cbx33> ok
[12:13] <cbx33> does it use grub?
[12:13] <[118] Gatekeeper> yes 
[12:13] <cbx33> what version of edubuntu is it?
[12:14] <[118] Gatekeeper> mom i will start with knoppix and have a look @ the release file 
[12:14] <cbx33> ok
[12:15] <cbx33> ok you could try starting the machine
[12:15] <cbx33> and at the grub prompt, edit the grub kernel line and remove splash
[12:15] <cbx33> it's all done with keys..... e to edit
[12:15] <cbx33> etc 
[12:15] <cbx33> and it's all documented in grub if you've never done it before
[12:16] <[118] Gatekeeper> okay i am wrong 
[12:18] <[118] Gatekeeper> grub is installt but i cant insert something in the command line cause the time is 0
[12:19] <[118] Gatekeeper> now i can see: the edubunto logo
[12:19] <[118] Gatekeeper> Loading essentiel drivvers .... OK
[12:19] <[118] Gatekeeper> mounting root filesystem .... <HANG UP>
[12:20] <cbx33> it does sit there for a while
[12:20] <cbx33> give it time
[12:20] <[118] Gatekeeper> okay 
[12:20] <[118] Gatekeeper> "/dev/sda1 = 310 GB
[12:20] <[118] Gatekeeper> ext3
[12:21] <cbx33> ok
[12:22] <[118] Gatekeeper> there is no hdd act.
[12:22] <cbx33> act?
[12:22] <[118] Gatekeeper> activity
[12:23] <cbx33> ah...
[12:23] <cbx33> hmm...
[12:23] <cbx33> that is odd
[12:23] <[118] Gatekeeper> jo
[12:23] <cbx33> I've had it take a few minutes before
[12:23] <cbx33> but never that long
[12:24] <[118] Gatekeeper> can i hide the splash wit <tab> or <esc>
[12:29] <[118] Gatekeeper> *still waiting 
[12:29] <cbx33> hmmm
[12:29] <[118] Gatekeeper> *kick
[12:29] <cbx33> yeh I think we've established a problem here ;)
[12:29] <cbx33> the trick is going to be finding what's wrong
[12:29] <cbx33> what about rebooting...bott with knoppix mount the drive and look for a ny logs
[12:30] <[118] Gatekeeper> okay 
[12:39] <[118] Gatekeeper> its edubunto = ubuntu 6.06 dapper
[12:42] <[118] Gatekeeper> i can found the last clear shutdown only in the logs
[12:46] <[118] Gatekeeper> i changed same valuse in /boot/grub/menu.list 
[12:47] <[118] Gatekeeper> i changed some values in /boot/grub/menu.list 
[12:47] <[118] Gatekeeper> do i nedd grub-install or tkes effect at next startup 
[01:02] <[118] Gatekeeper> i have disabled the usb 
[01:02] <[118] Gatekeeper> now the system is up 
[01:44] <cbx33> yikes....am I still here?
[01:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> lol
[01:44] <highvoltage> indeed.
[01:44] <cbx33> excellent
[01:44] <cbx33> sorry just changed proxy servers and back
[01:45] <Kamping_Kaiser> :)
[01:45] <[118] Gatekeeper> @cbx33 i have disabled the usb 
[01:46] <[118] Gatekeeper> i have disabled the usb 
[01:46] <cbx33> anything?
[01:46] <[118] Gatekeeper> now the system is up
[01:46] <cbx33> wow
[01:46] <cbx33> what did the ogs say
[01:46] <cbx33> logs
[01:46] <[118] Gatekeeper> system hung up when start ohci host contoller 
[01:47] <cbx33> ahhh
[01:47] <cbx33> well at least you know
[01:47] <[118] Gatekeeper> nice ^^
[01:48] <[118] Gatekeeper> how can i tell edubuntu to leech fiels (apt-get install g++) freom the internet 
[01:48] <[118] Gatekeeper> he try to use the cd 
[01:48] <Kamping_Kaiser> system -> administration -> software propreties
[01:48] <[118] Gatekeeper> but cd ist everywhere in hamburg 
[01:54] <[118] Gatekeeper> there is a password required 
[01:54] <[118] Gatekeeper> root password ?
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> no. admin
[01:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> your password
[01:54] <[118] Gatekeeper> it doesent work 
[01:55] <[118] Gatekeeper> okay can i try passwd admin ?
[01:55] <Kamping_Kaiser> try with the password you made during install
[01:55] <[118] Gatekeeper> i dont istall this system :(
[01:55] <[118] Gatekeeper> dont have instaled 
[01:56] <Kamping_Kaiser> huh?
[01:56] <[118] Gatekeeper> i am administrator in a small company 
[01:56] <[118] Gatekeeper> a customer comes to me and ask for help 
[01:57] <cbx33> I thought you chrooted and changed the password?
[01:57] <cbx33> oh btw
[01:57] <cbx33> there is no root password on a default ubuntu install
[01:57] <[118] Gatekeeper> yes but not for "admin"
[01:57] <cbx33> the account is locked out
[01:57] <cbx33> no
[01:57] <cbx33> well
[01:57] <cbx33> it depends what user they created first
[01:57] <cbx33> you still on knoppix?
[01:58] <[118] Gatekeeper> no dapperdrake
[01:58] <cbx33> but you can't login right
[01:58] <cbx33> ?
[01:58] <[118] Gatekeeper> yes
[01:58] <cbx33> boot up off the knoppix cd 
[01:59] <cbx33> then you can see what the user name was that was created
[02:00] <kihai> Hi there! I'm having a small problem after upgrading from dapper to edgy. The packages acpid, acpi-support and edubuntu-desktop are somehow wrongly configured. When I try to dpkg-reconfigure one of them, I get an error saying acpid is not nocfigured correctly. Apart from that the current kernel doesn't seem to be installed . uname -a gives me: Linux edubuntu 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Sat Sep 16 01:51:59 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux Anyone any ideas on how to fix 
[02:01] <Kamping_Kaiser> kihai, has your upgrade finished?
[02:02] <kihai> Yes, but with errors. Everything boots up and there don't seem to be any problems, even the ltsp works (Though it's not yet updated) and 15 clients boot happily from the updated server
[02:03] <cbx33> hmmm
[02:03] <cbx33> are you loggin into the server
[02:03] <cbx33> or via a client?
[02:03] <kihai> What about reinvoking the update-manager? Could that help or shouldn't I bother?
[02:03] <cbx33> have you rebooted?
[02:03] <kihai> yes
[02:03] <cbx33> surely you should have a 17.10 kernel
[02:03] <Kamping_Kaiser> kihai, have you run `sudo apt-get install edubuntu-desktop`?
[02:04] <kihai> edubuntu-desktop is already installed. I uninstalled it because of the dependency conflict with acpid
[02:04] <cbx33> how did you upgrade?
[02:04] <cbx33> with update manager?
[02:05] <kihai> yes, update-manager -c
[02:05] <cbx33> hmmm
[02:05] <cbx33> try update-manager -c -d
[02:07] <[118] Gatekeeper> problem sovlved 
[02:07] <[118] Gatekeeper> the "use-the-right-password-botton"
[02:08] <kihai> update-manager -c -d tells me my system is up to date... :(
[02:12] <cbx33> hmmm
[02:12] <cbx33> tried an apt-get install --reinstall ?
[02:15] <kihai> yes, doesn't help though...
[02:15] <Kamping_Kaiser> having removed edubuntu-desktop have you reinstlaled it?
[02:15] <cbx33> hmmm
[02:15] <cbx33> what about a manual install of the latest kernel?
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> wont unbreak him
[02:16] <kihai> edubuntu-desktop is dependent on acpi-support, acpi-support depends on acpid and acpid can't be reinstalled nor reconfigured...
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> why cant it?
[02:16] <Kamping_Kaiser> whats the error?
[02:17] <cbx33> Kamping_Kaiser: you sure it can't confiugre it cos the latest kernel isn't available?
[02:17] <cbx33> seeing as acpi relies heavily on kernel?
[02:17] <cbx33> I'm not sure
[02:17] <kihai> The error comes from dpkg and it leaves the packages unconfigured
[02:17] <cbx33> does it givce any more info
[02:17] <Kamping_Kaiser> kihai, dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/acpi*deb
[02:19] <kihai> dpkg: Abhngigkeitsprobleme verhindern Konfiguration von acpi-support:
[02:19] <kihai>  acpi-support hngt ab von acpid (>= 1.0.4-1ubuntu4); aber:
[02:19] <kihai>   Package acpid is not configured yet.
[02:20] <Kamping_Kaiser> so install the failing package on its own.
[02:20] <kihai> It's already installed.
[02:21] <Kamping_Kaiser> whats apt-cache policy acpid give?
[02:21] <kihai> just not configured and dpkg-reconfigure acpid brings the same errors about dependencies
[02:21] <kihai> acpid:
[02:21] <kihai>   Installiert:1.0.4-5ubuntu4
[02:21] <kihai>   Mgliche Pakete:1.0.4-5ubuntu4
[02:21] <kihai>   Versions-Tabelle:
[02:21] <kihai>  *** 1.0.4-5ubuntu4 0
[02:21] <kihai>         500 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages
[02:21] <kihai>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[02:22] <Kamping_Kaiser> ok. sudo dpkg --configure --pending
[02:26] <kihai> same errors...
[02:26] <Kamping_Kaiser> drat. its my bedtime. did it configure anything?
[02:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> also give `sudo apt-get -f install` a whirl. it should try and fix the install for you (to the best it can)
[02:28] <kihai> just like that or sudo apt-get -f install edubuntu-desktop ?
[02:31] <cbx33> just sudo apt-get -f install
[02:32] <kihai> It showed a lot of unmet dependencies and at the end the same three errors about acpid, acpi-support and edubuntu-desktop appeared...
[02:32] <cbx33> hmmm
[02:32] <cbx33> can you possibly sort of the unmet deps?
[02:33] <SimonAnibal> it's 8:30 AM, wake up!
[02:33] <cbx33> 13:30 here ;)
[02:33] <SimonAnibal> :)
[02:35] <kihai> Hmm, now I tried dpkg-reconfigure --force acpid. It said: Stopping ACPI services, Loading ACPI Modules, Starting ACPI services, all with [OK] , but aptitude -f install after that brings the same error about acpid not being configured
[02:42] <cbx33> argh
[02:42] <cbx33> i hate it when this happens
[02:42] <cbx33> I'll bbiab
[03:52] <bddebian> Heya
[04:16] <highvoltage> *sigh*. they broke into my car again today :(
[05:10] <jsgotangco> ?
[05:10] <pygi> jsgotangco: what? :)
[05:10] <jsgotangco> :P
[05:11] <pygi> libburn can now burn first session, hehe :)
[05:14] <jsgotangco> ohhh
[05:14] <pygi> I know it means nothing to you, but oh well :P
[05:15] <jsgotangco> burn first session
[05:15] <jsgotangco> do you mean multisession cd?
[05:15] <pygi> yup
[05:15] <pygi> don't worry :)
[05:16] <jsgotangco> i gotta sleep
[05:16] <jsgotangco> will catch up later
[05:16] <pygi> night
[05:39] <cbx33> ogra, hi dude
[05:39] <cbx33> am I right in thinking that there is an SCP meeting in about 5 and a half hours
[05:40] <pygi> scp?!
[05:40] <pygi> ah, student control panel
[05:40] <cbx33> yeh...the spec 
[05:40] <cbx33> hence why I did it in capitols ;)
[05:44] <ogra> thats only a drafting session, we had our discussions yesterday ...
[05:45] <cbx33> argh that's what I thought
[05:45] <cbx33> damn
[05:45] <cbx33> there was no schedule on the wiki yesterday
[05:45] <cbx33> I checked
[05:45] <cbx33> the dates on the schedule are very misleading
[05:45] <cbx33> how did it go?
[05:45] <ogra> the schedule was there
[05:46] <cbx33> well I couldn;'t see it
[05:46] <ogra> it went nicely ... a bunch of stuff will be added ... wait for my wiki edit ... i have to collect all the notes first (thats what the drafting session is for)
[05:46] <cbx33> I kept checking up till about 4pm my time
[05:46] <cbx33> ok 
[05:47] <cbx33> is it worth me being present togniht/today
[05:47] <ogra> well, we start at 5pm your time  (which is about 8am here)
[05:47] <cbx33> yeh.....I had to go out....unfortunately
[05:47] <cbx33> so I am really sorry
[05:47] <ogra> but the schedule for yesterday was generated a day in advance
[05:48] <cbx33> but it wasn't present on the wiki
[05:48] <cbx33> hmmm
[05:48] <cbx33> what time is todays drafting session...and would you like me to be present?
[05:49] <ogra> not needed, its only me sitting in a corner and adding the notes from the discussion to the wiki
[05:49] <cbx33> http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/uds-mtv/2006-11-05/ - the title in one place says 06 and in another 05
[05:49] <cbx33> so I missed out then
[05:49] <ogra> http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/uds-mtv/ is the right link ....
[05:50] <ogra> the daily schedules will show up there 
[05:50] <cbx33> yeh and taht links to that page
[05:50] <cbx33> if you see the title it's wrong
[05:50] <cbx33> well the H1 tag
[05:50] <cbx33> well....I'm really sorry nd majorly dissapointed - I really wanted to attend
[05:50] <cbx33> but i guess it can't be helped
[05:50] <cbx33> too late now any way
[05:51] <cbx33> was my drafted spec ok?
[05:51] <ogra> we went over it quickly ... there is not really a need to spec ui beautification and bugfixes, so that part will boil down to the vnc part
[05:52] <ogra> - multiple server control
[05:52] <ogra> - filter functionallity of the userlist 
[05:52] <ogra> - forced filter per teacher
[05:52] <ogra> - sharing screen -> exec vnc on the clients desktop connected to your session
[05:52] <ogra> - mini vnc preview in teh userlist 
[05:52] <ogra> - tiled vnc overview of the complete class on demand
[05:52] <cbx33> I'm looking forward to your updates to the wiki
[05:52] <ogra> is waht i will add today ...
[05:52] <cbx33> nice
[05:52] <cbx33> who is implementing?
[05:52] <ogra> doesnt matter yet
[05:53] <ogra> for now only the spec is important ...
[05:53] <cbx33> I was just curious whether anyone else had tipped their hats towards it
[05:54] <cbx33> brb
[06:07] <cbx33> back
[06:12] <pygi> Seveas: got a question for you :)
[06:28] <theresa> hello everyone! i have a problem, I downloaded the Live CD of 6.10 today and burned the image and when i booted it i got the following error "I/O error: Error reading boot cd"
[06:28] <pygi> your hardware is ok theresa ? :)
[06:28] <theresa> pygi: yes it is, because my dad tried it at his pc at work as well
[06:28] <tideline> theresa: did you check MD5 after downloading?
[06:29] <theresa> nope, how do I do that? I've still got the iso that I downloaded
[06:30] <tideline> I take for granted you are using windows to download?
[06:30] <theresa> yes
[06:30] <theresa> well, I'm on Kubuntu now, but the iso was downloaded from a windows machine
[06:32] <tideline> if you have the iso on the kubuntu box you can check it with the md5sum command - md5sum -c filename
[06:32] <tideline> iirc
[06:34] <theresa> tideline: thank you very much, I'll give it a try
[06:34] <tideline> there should be a md5sums file you could download from a mirror that will have the value you should be getting for compairson
[06:35] <tideline> theresa: no problem let us know if you need more help
[06:45] <theresa> hmmm i've cd'd into the directory where I downloaded the MD5SUM file and where the edubuntu iso exists...but it says md5sum: command: No such file or directory
[06:51] <tideline> theresa: are you on a live cd machine or an install
[06:51] <Seveas> pygi, mail is better for that these days, I'm at uds
[06:52] <pygi> Seveas: oki, just wanted simple question :)
[06:52] <bddebian> pygi: Did you get my e-mail?
[06:53] <theresa> tideline: i have kubuntu installed here.....
[06:53] <theresa> tideline: runs smoothly since 3 months....
[06:53] <pygi> bddebian: yup, but haven't got the time to look yet, thank you very much :)
[06:53] <bddebian> NP
[06:54] <tideline> theresa: odd - have you install the build-essentials package?
[06:54] <tideline> i dont know if you need that though
[06:56] <tideline> i would think that md5sum would be a normal part of the distro
[06:57] <highvoltage> it is
[06:58] <pygi> yay, highvoltage ^_^
[06:58] <highvoltage> :)
[06:58] <pygi> highvoltage: can you read -burning about news ? ^_^
[06:58] <pygi> also write some blog post, nothing important tho on planet :)
[07:00] <tideline> theresa: did you try it with the -c like I said - if so try it without
[07:01] <pygi> highvoltage: about the multi session stuff :P
[07:03] <theresa> my iso cd contains the following stuff: isolinux / casper / install / ubuntu / pics / .disk / preseed / dists / pool / md5sum.txt / README / cdromupgrade
[07:04] <tideline> theresa: wait - cd into the directory where the iso is stored, not the iso itseld
[07:05] <theresa> tideline: what do you mean where it is stored? i have the .iso currently on my desktop and the burned iso image in my cd drive
[07:06] <tideline> ok so cd to your desktop cd ~/Desktop
[07:06] <theresa> ok
[07:06] <tideline> now at the command prompt typr md5sum filename - where filename is the name of the iso
[07:09] <theresa> takes a while
[07:09] <tideline> yup
[07:10] <theresa> hmm they're both different :(
[07:11] <tideline> so the md5 from the command and the one in the md5sums file are not the same - that means the hash has changes so the iso is not good.  You should probably download another copy and try it.
[07:11] <theresa> hmm ok, maybe from another server as well?
[07:11] <tideline> couldn't hurt
[07:14] <theresa> tideline: thanks for all your help and effort!
[07:42] <cbx33> hey RichEd 
[07:43] <RichEd> mr savage ... how are ?
[07:44] <cbx33> good good
[07:44] <cbx33> you
[07:46] <bronze> cbx has a tan?
[07:50] <bronze> re: cbx|savage http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doc_Savage
[07:50] <cbx33> hehehe
[08:05] <stgraber> RichEd: Are you in room 210 ?
[08:06] <stgraber> Looks like there is nobody in this room (at least on VOIP)
[08:06] <stgraber> hmm, fixed now, fine
[09:00] <pygi> sbalneav: hey
[09:01] <sbalneav> Hello pygi
[09:29] <grahamldlw> cbx33 u there?
[09:30] <cbx33> yup
[09:30] <grahamldlw> how can i run and compile pascal code on here?
[09:30] <grahamldlw> i downloaded some gpc thing and it hasnt done anything and i cant find it or anything
[09:31] <cbx33> you need to run
[09:31] <cbx33> in a terminal window
[09:31] <cbx33> gpc pascalfile -o outputfile
[09:31] <grahamldlw> i tried it i cant get it to, i have the source code minus the wincrt on my desktop
[09:31] <grahamldlw> huh?
[09:31] <grahamldlw> i'd type that in on the terminal?
[09:33] <grahamldlw> ok i get that now, is there anyway to get a seperate program on linux that dosent do it in the termianl
[09:35] <cbx33> nope
[09:35] <cbx33> :p
[09:35] <cbx33> ...oh you coud always write one
[09:35] <cbx33> ;)
[09:36] <grahamldlw> ha..yeh, i've finished a naughts and crosses game for pascal, and i wanted to play it :( lol, doing visual basic next
[09:36] <grahamldlw> and we finished doing arrays, she was gonna show me how to do 2D arrays whatever that is but i was concentrating too much, im first in class to finish naughts and crosses and we started it this morning
[09:42] <cbx33> coool
[09:42] <cbx33> oh btw M$ have dropped support for some of VB
[09:42] <cbx33> heheh
[09:42] <grahamldlw> hu has?
[09:42] <grahamldlw> microsoft?
[09:42] <cbx33> microsfot
[09:42] <grahamldlw> im not using microsoft products so im sure thats not a problem lol
[09:43] <grahamldlw> syntax error and it wont run :(
[09:43] <cbx33> hehe
[09:48] <grahamldlw> maybe i shud learn python next considering i've now learnt a full/ish programming language
[09:52] <grahamldlw> anyway im going adios
[10:09] <theresa> my heart beats for edubuntu :D
[10:16] <cbx33> ahh
[10:16] <cbx33> awww
[10:16] <cbx33> hehe
[10:16] <pygi> theresa: ^_^
[10:17] <nixternal> mine beats for KDE, but it pumps Edubuntu blood ;)
[10:24] <stgraber> nixternal: ping
[10:24] <nixternal> fdjlajfldsajlj$*#@)($)@
[10:25] <nixternal> ok
[10:25] <nixternal> yo yo
[10:25] <stgraber> can you join 5000, I just want to be sure that I don't do any noise (My laptop microphone is buggy, so I use a dummy input)
[10:25] <nixternal> sure
[10:26] <nixternal> i hear some ticking
[10:26] <stgraber> and now ?
[10:26] <nixternal> it stopped
[10:26] <nixternal> i hear the popping and crackling, but very faint
[10:26] <cbx33> echo cancellation ;)
[10:26] <cbx33> that was annyoing mine
[10:27] <stgraber> I really have the worst laptop soundcard :)
[10:27] <stgraber> I can use my microphone input but only during 5 minutes
[10:27] <stgraber> after that the sounds enter something like a loop and I have to restart the driver (stop X, reload it and start X)
[10:27] <stgraber> really annoying :)
[10:28] <stgraber> the only way I have found, is to use dummy as the input and then I got no crash (but no mic :( )
[10:28] <stgraber> nixternal: thx
[10:28] <nixternal> no prob
[10:30] <theresa> pygi: i simply love it....but again I fear that at the moment it's only suited for kids below 10 years....
[10:30] <stgraber> Anyone of you tried one of these USB soundcard (or headset) ?
[10:30] <pygi> theresa: will be there, don't worry for all the rest
[10:30] <pygi> theresa: and if you know how, you can customize for needs of older children
[10:30] <theresa> pygi: cool :)
[10:31] <theresa> pygi: hehe, that's it....I'm a noob when it comes to writing programs...
[10:31] <pygi> theresa: no, no writing programs :) Just installing different set of software
[10:33] <theresa> i've found these links.... edu.kde.org and http://www.gnomefiles.org/subcategory.php?sub_cat_id=49 seems to be the only edu-programs so far?!
[10:34] <pygi> edu.kde.org is KDEedu, we have that ^_^
[10:34] <pygi> theresa: there are no a LOT of edu apps, that much is true
[10:35] <theresa> hehe ok, i'm relieved, i just need to find them haha ;)
[10:35] <pygi> theresa: don't use some random thingies :)
[10:35] <pygi> Feel free to explore synaptic
[10:37] <theresa> i much rather prefer adept instead of synpatic ;) it's the same basically, isn't it?
[10:37] <theresa> but if it's necessary, i'll use synpatic as well :)
[10:38] <pygi> use adept if you really like it :P
[10:49] <cbx33> hey Fujitsu 
[10:51] <Fujitsu> Hi cbx33.