[12:13] <mitheng> buenas
[12:13] <superkirbyartist> Typing "x" doesn't work.
[12:13] <mitheng> x
[12:13] <Dr_Willis> X - UPPER case X
[12:14] <superkirbyartist> But yes, got the terminal.
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> i think. :)
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> did it say...  bash: x: command not found
[12:14] <Dr_Willis> thats different from 'dosent work' heh heh.
[12:16] <superkirbyartist> Hooking up external monitor shows screen with "X".  Internal doesn't work.
[12:17] <edu> Hey, how can I share a internet connection through a wifi card?
[12:17] <superkirbyartist> Dr_Willis?
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> superkirbyartist:  interesting.
[12:18] <Dr_Willis> this is one of those imacs thats an Monitor/pc combo? with a external vga port as well?
[12:18] <knapp> How do I change the configuration of a single panel, instead of all of them? For example, when I make a panel transparent, it makes them all transparent.
[12:19] <superkirbyartist> Yes.
[12:19] <superkirbyartist> iMac G3.
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> I got an imacDV - similer to that one?
[12:19] <superkirbyartist> Desktop is loading when type "startx"; "X" alone shows screen with "X" cursor.
[12:19] <Homer> !wget
[12:19] <ubotu> wget: retrieves files from the web. In component main, is standard. Version 1.10.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 226 kB, installed size 1952 kB
[12:19] <Homer> can I get "wget" a whole domain
[12:20] <superkirbyartist> So maybe switch to supported resolution.  Both monitors work at same time with terminal
[12:20] <superkirbyartist> Thank you Dr_Willis!
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> superkirbyartist:  sounds like the xorg config is some how confused and setting up 2 monitors perhaps.. and defaulting to the wrong one.
[12:20] <superkirbyartist> Be right back.
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> My TV out hooked up acts similary
[12:20] <Dr_Willis> untill i configure it.
[12:21] <superkirbyartist> This is inconvenient!  One mouse button!  How to change screen resolution?
[12:22] <superkirbyartist> I have an entire KDE desktop.  6.10 Edgy Kubuntu is pretty good!
[12:23] <superkirbyartist> Anyone knows how to change the screen resolution?
[12:23] <Digital_Pioneer> Hi. I need to batch rename a folder of files from x - y.mp3 to y - x.mp3.
[12:24] <vivianne> hello
[12:24] <superkirbyartist> How do you change screen resolution?  From KDE or terminal?
[12:24] <vivianne> hola como va?
[12:25] <superkirbyartist> No bieno.  Screen resolution how to change?
[12:25] <steveire> georgeb: You still around? I was having swap partition issues earlier...
[12:25] <superkirbyartist> Dr_Willis?  Screen resolution?
[12:26] <steveire> superkirbyartist: try kcontrol
[12:26] <superkirbyartist> kcontrol...
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> superkirbyartist:  i normally use that kde tool.. but 90% of the time ubuntu sets up my res. where i dont need tomess with it.
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> Its even gotten my widescreen laptop right.
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> which amazed me
[12:26] <superkirbyartist> But it won't work with both monitors.  As I said, only external.  So I will adjust resolution.
[12:28] <delusions> hi everybody, can someone tell me at what temperature you are generally running the cpu
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> heh   - my poor imac. the internal crt is about dead on it.. i tend to set it on a desk and hook up a external lcd.
[12:28] <archangel_> anybody here with an MSI m/b?
[12:29] <archangel_> like it?
[12:29] <delusions> yes
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> its sort of impressive how cheap some of these mb's are these days :)
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> theres a lot of work in those things.
[12:30] <archangel_> I normally build higher end machines, but I have a friend that needs a budget pc
[12:30] <archangel_> MSI prices are very reasonable
[12:30] <dennister> i may be getting somewhere...bbs
[12:31] <shaezsche> whats the best kde theme EVER. quick i need an objecctive answer
[12:31] <campbch> :o use the default, with transparencies, and a transparent font over your favorite wallpaper.
[12:31] <shaezsche> eh.
[12:31] <shaezsche> naw
[12:31] <archangel_> default
[12:31] <campbch> its what i do, it looks schweet
[12:31] <shaezsche> i want something dark and sexy
[12:32] <campbch> ok
[12:32] <campbch> you can make it dark
[12:32] <shaezsche> but can i make it sexy??
[12:32] <campbch> again, with transparencies, and change the colors of bars
[12:32] <shaezsche> what about super karamba
[12:32] <archangel_> get a girl
[12:32] <campbch> ok... one sec...
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> most of the 'dark' themes ive seen - have issues with programs and visibility of stuff. :(
[12:32] <eaglehawk> hello everybody
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> I tend to just use Plastik theme.
[12:32] <shaezsche> me too, and im sick of it
[12:33] <steveire> How do you send a message to a nickserv account? Anyone know?
[12:33] <eaglehawk> anybody help me with sound issue on laptop
[12:33] <pierreSabatier> bonsoir
[12:33] <shaezsche> i wish beryl worked
[12:33] <shaezsche> lots of themes there
[12:33] <pierreSabatier> je cherche de l'aide ne php
[12:33] <digivore> which desktop environment has the best themes?  Enlightenment or xfce os beryl?
[12:33] <shaezsche> but it makes my video card squeak
[12:33] <pierreSabatier> pour imagerotate
[12:33] <shaezsche> wehever i open close things
[12:33] <shaezsche> or minimize windows
[12:33] <[cf] nightrid3r> steveire: msg nickserv help
[12:33] <archangel_> yeah, dark dont look all that good unless you have a dark wallpaper with transparansies  (sp?)
[12:33] <pierreSabatier> elle ne veut pas fonctionner
[12:33] <digivore> !fr
[12:33] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[12:33] <pierreSabatier> quelqu'un sait pourquoi
[12:33] <pierreSabatier> ?
[12:33] <pierreSabatier> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30331/
[12:33] <dennister> somehow i did it...not sure how
[12:34] <pierreSabatier> ligne 52 commente
[12:34] <eaglehawk> anybody help me with sound issue on laptop
[12:34] <shaezsche> why arent transparencies on by default?
[12:34] <pierreSabatier> elle ne fonctionne pas mais n'affiche pas d'erreur
[12:34] <dennister> but the resolution is huge...exact opposite of normal prob with everything too tiny....lol
[12:34] <aseigo> shaezsche: in the window manager?
[12:34] <dennister> 'ts ok i should be able to fix this
[12:35] <superkirbyartist> I still can't get this to work.
[12:35] <shaezsche> yea
[12:35] <campbch> hmm
[12:35] <aseigo> shaezsche: because it's not stable and slow like crap on most vid cards
[12:35] <campbch> though i dont like it as much, look at this screenshot
[12:35] <archangel_> cause a transparancy option is hard to find
[12:35] <aseigo> shaezsche: it would be a -great- way to make the default kde give a crap impression to 99% of users
[12:35] <pierreSabatier> je veux comprendre
[12:35] <shaezsche> not stable? i thought i just turned it on in the kde appearance menu
[12:35] <shaezsche> im not talking about beryl
[12:35] <archangel_> that was a bad one.... sorry
[12:35] <aseigo> yes, i know.
[12:35] <pierreSabatier> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30331/ qu'est-ce qui ne va pas avec la ligne 52
[12:36] <shaezsche> whats not stable about it??
[12:36] <aseigo> is this the (fake) menu transparencies, or the real transparency for windows (e.g. when moving, etc)
[12:36] <shaezsche> well are the REAL transparencies availble in the menu appearance settings
[12:36] <Digital_Pioneer> Any ideas on my renaming dillemma?
[12:36] <archangel_> every menu I have is transparent
[12:36] <archangel_> and the bar
[12:37] <archangel_> I cant find a thing
[12:37] <aseigo> ah, menu transparency. ok, -that- is a hack and not particularly fast.
[12:37] <aseigo> it takes a screenshot and uses a tinted version of that as the background for the menu
[12:37] <aseigo> we try to turn on as few such half-assed (if neat) hacks as possible by default.
[12:37] <archangel_> yes
[12:37] <aseigo> i'm assuming kubuntu is following that concept too
[12:38] <shaezsche> im talking ONLY about the settings in the control panel under appearance/themes
[12:38] <shaezsche> that should ALL be stable
[12:38] <shaezsche> its not something you dl and install
[12:38] <Digital_Pioneer> archangel_: Right-click the panel, and try to find "Configure Panel..."
[12:38] <archangel_> prove of that is sliding the bar out of the way and watching the pic go with it
[12:38] <aseigo> shaezsche: which exact feature in that panel?
[12:38] <archangel_> I was just kidding DP
[12:39] <dennister> i take that back...nervous about editing xorg.conf by hand
[12:39] <shaezsche> you can do anything to xorg
[12:39] <shaezsche> if you screw up just use the auto config command
[12:39] <shaezsche> i forget what it is, anyone know?
[12:39] <shaezsche> i put random code in xorg all the time
[12:39] <shaezsche> its fun
[12:39] <superkirbyartist> Dr_Willis: I can't even see my desktop anymore. How to boot KDE with old settings?
[12:40] <dennister> anything? then who do so many people come in here with very serious xorg probs? I've had xorg fall apart on me b4, 2
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> superkirbyartist:  you mean the old X settings? or the old KDE user settings
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> ive hacked and whacked and assaulted the x configs many a time. :P
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> its just somthing ive read and learned to mess with.
[12:43] <RawSewage> Is there a way to show meta-tag info for audio files in Konqueror browser
[12:43] <superkirbyartist> Old X settings.
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> the layout of xorg.conf is much better then the old style xf86configs. :) but it could still use work.
[12:43] <h3sp4wn> Dr_Willis: I think the old one is easier in someways
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> superkirbyartist:  see if theres any backups in /etc/X11,  you are saying you editted the file and Did NOT make a backup?
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> h3sp4wn:  my xconfigs seem to be about 1/2 the legenth they used to be. :)
[12:43] <h3sp4wn> Dr_Willis: i.e using "1" or "0" always instead of sometimes "Enable and sometimes "True"
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> or less.
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> Never noticed much hassles with 1/0/true/false.
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> its interesting all the options the nvidia driver readmes mention, fun to play with.
[12:45] <dennister> Dr_Willis: i think i've finally got the nvdia driver working, bug the resolution is huge, and the slider bar in kcontrol for a higher resolution isn't working
[12:45] <dennister> which section of xorg.conf should i edit?
[12:45] <superkirbyartist> All done back to original settings.  Now how to support monitor?
[12:45] <h3sp4wn> Dr_Willis: That is different though (the advance-help for nvidia-xconfig lists them all)
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  you mean the res is "high" as in 1050xwhatever? or LOW like 640x480 so the fonts/icons are huge?
[12:46] <h3sp4wn> Dr_Willis: I am talking about the free drivers which seem inconsistant
[12:46] <superkirbyartist> Internal iMac monitor G3.
[12:46] <superkirbyartist> DV
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> hmm.. isent there a ppc/mac forum on the ubuntu forums?
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> my poor mac aint even been powered on in months.
[12:47] <dennister> i'm afraid that there are so many that look so similar i'll edit the wrong one..lol
[12:48] <superkirbyartist> !imac
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <dragonfly7> How can I force my computer to recognize a windows network?
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> force?
[12:48] <NameNomad> !partition
[12:48] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[12:48] <Dr_Willis> ping the window machines.. if they reply :) its networked.
[12:49] <RawSewage> Is there a way to fix Amarok so it doesnt cut off the end of small clips
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> use the samba tools to access window shares. or the FISH:// feature of konqueror
[12:49] <RawSewage> I want to hear the whole clip
[12:49] <RawSewage> but it cuts off the end
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> or was it smb:// (i forget)
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> fish:// is for ssh? or was it samba?
[12:49] <dragonfly7> I have been, and around 20% of the time i can see other machines. But usually it doesn't work.
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> RawSewage:  it fades out at the end then starts the next one?
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> dragonfly7:  interesting..
[12:50] <RawSewage> Dr_Willis, no, it just cuts it off
[12:50] <superkirbyartist> I will use the actual mac.
[12:50] <Dr_Willis> dragonfly7:  may want to check out smb4k, or that fuse samba filesystem stuff. it may be windows is timing out/hanging up.
[12:51] <dragonfly7> Yes, it is triving me crazy. All I want is to share a printer.
[12:51] <Dr_Willis> dragonfly7:  sounds like somthng that may be hard to pinpoint. since it works/dont work.
[12:51] <dragonfly7> dragonfly7: Yes, that is the problem I have been having. Is there some GUI samba configurer that I could use?
[12:52] <dragonfly7> I am not sure why I am talking to myself. Oops.
[12:52] <edu> how could I do my laptop act as a router? can anyone help me?
[12:52] <RawSewage> lol
[12:52] <mc_> edu: that is an fairly advanced topic
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> ip masquerading howto - is a nice read.
[12:53] <edu> well
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> dragonfly7:  i would be guessing its not a problem at the linux end.. but at the windows end. :(
[12:54] <dennister> Dr_Willis: I won't screw everything up by, in xorg.conf, changing the resolution of all video devices to 800x600?
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> dragonfly7:  not that it helps much to say that. :(
[12:54] <superkirbyartist> Dr_Willis: On my iMac!
[12:54] <edu> i just wanted my nintendo ds to be able to connect internet with linux
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> superkirbyartist:  not sure.. when in doubt backit up. I thought the crt on those macs could only do like 1024x768
[12:54] <Dr_Willis> at 60hz. (or whatever it was)
[12:55] <qu1ckfr0st> can anyone here with editting a partition on kubuntu and creating a new windows partition?
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> edu:  heh heh. :) ive not tried that yet.
[12:55] <dragonfly7> Yeah. I remember doing this once before, (I reinstalled kubuntu when I upgraded to 6.10) and I think I did something in windows.
[12:55] <Dr_Willis> edu:  i got my psp going.
[12:55] <qu1ckfr0st> help me with editting ***
[12:55] <dennister> well, i'm gonna try it anyway...luckily i do have anotehr linux installation
[12:56] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  you got linux isntalled on hda allready? and now want to resize the install and install windows?
[12:56] <qu1ckfr0st> yeah
[12:56] <qu1ckfr0st> i've got 224gbs of unused space on my hd
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> unused as in 'free' or unused as unallocated :)
[12:57] <edu> Dr_Willis: and how can i use the laptop as a router? do you know?
[12:57] <BluesKaj> Gpatrted Live cd  Linux-ntfs partitioner
[12:57] <Dr_Willis> edu:  ip-masquerading lets you share a network connection with other pc's
[12:57] <qu1ckfr0st> unused as in free, i want to resize it down to about 74gbs of free space, create a new partition with about 150
[12:57] <BluesKaj> err GParted  qu1ckfr0st
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  gparted can do that.. but getting windows to isntall successfully on the unallocated space maybe the issue
[12:58] <SAM_theman> yo my dad is trying to install his nvidia drivers for kubuntu 6.10 and keeps giving him an error
[12:58] <qu1ckfr0st> i've got that open right now
[12:58] <SAM_theman> and it does it with ubutnu 6.10 as well
[12:58] <edu> ok, Dr_Willis , i'll search for ip-masquerading
[12:58] <Dr_Willis> SAM_theman:  those 2 are all using the same drivers/repos and are basicially identical :)
[12:58] <SAM_theman> whats your point
[12:59] <dragonfly7> SAM_theman: what is the error?
[12:59] <SAM_theman> it should be easy like version 6.06
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> you have yet to tell us the error.. :)
[12:59] <Dr_Willis> i had no hassles installing the nvidia stuff on edgy. (6.10)
[12:59] <SAM_theman> Error unable nvidia kkernel driver.....
[12:59] <qu1ckfr0st> hey, i've got GParted open right now, but it wont allow me to select resize, do I have to unmount the partition first or something?
[01:00] <wharf> Hi there.
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  BEST to use a live cd with gparted on it.
[01:00] <dragonfly7> wharf: hi.
[01:00] <wharf> I tryed installing xgl onto my kubuntu system, i screwed it up
[01:00] <wharf> It aint that easy to do is it?
[01:00] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  the partions must be unmounted..
[01:00] <justin1278>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <blue07>
[01:00] <qu1ckfr0st> I have a kubuntu live cd
[01:00] <justin1278> lol
[01:01] <justin1278> sry
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> :)
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> Hay thats my password also!
[01:01] <qu1ckfr0st> can I put that in, reboot onto that, install GParted and then unmount the partition im going to edit
[01:01] <justin1278> lol
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  the live cd may have parted allready included
[01:01] <edu> hey, isn't ip-masquerading function implemented in kde's control center or something else?
[01:01] <qu1ckfr0st> ok
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> theres also some dedicated gparted/parted live cds out.
[01:02] <justin1278>  /msg NickServ justin1278 <blue07>
[01:02] <justin1278> why is it not working?!?!
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> edu:  i seem to recall some check box's for enabling it somewhere.. but aint used it in ages
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> justin1278:  space at teh start of the command?
[01:02] <morfic> justin1278: perhaps the < > ?
[01:02] <Dr_Willis>      /command
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> vs /command
[01:02] <justin1278>  /msg NickServ justin1278 <blue07>
[01:02] <justin1278> not working
[01:02] <justin1278> i had it working before lol
[01:03] <morfic> justin1278: i hope you add the space to let us see the line only
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> since its echoing in here..the /msg stuff is the issue.
[01:03] <RebornDV> hello
[01:04] <justin1278> ok got it
[01:04] <RebornDV> i'm having a problem with kubuntu on this laptop... when i first install it the sound works great but after a while it stops working... and ideas?
[01:04] <justin1278> lol
[01:05] <dragonfly7> RebornDV: Does it stop altogether or start crakling? What laptop?
[01:05] <justin1278> hey does anyone know of any cool first person shooters for Kubuntu?
[01:05] <RebornDV> stops altogether... it's an emachines w4620
[01:06] <RebornDV> it's happened before... did a fresh installation and it worked again for a while then stopped again
[01:07] <justin1278> does anyone know of any cool first person shooter games for Kubuntu?
[01:07] <yeti> try nexuiz
[01:08] <justin1278> thanks
[01:08] <justin1278> does it cost or is it free?
[01:08] <yeti> it is free
[01:09] <yeti> nexuiz: http://www.alientrap.org/nexuiz/ ; warsow: http://www.warsow.net/
[01:09] <yeti> i'm not really sure but i think warsow has an active online multiplayer community
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> rtcw:ET is hard to beat.
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> Tremulus (trembulus?) is fast pased also.
[01:10] <justin1278> ok
[01:10] <Dr_Willis> and Savage is now released for Free.. its a must get FPS for linux
[01:10] <nivanson> How do I upgrade to kernel 2.6.18 with edgy? Backports?
[01:11] <justin1278> oh i love ET
[01:11] <justin1278> i have it on Windows
[01:11] <justin1278> but I think it is going to be discontinued
[01:11] <gnomefreak> nivanson: you cant
[01:11] <gnomefreak> nivanson: you have to build it
[01:11] <qu1ckfr0st> hello again, im now running on a live disk, the only partitioning software is qtparted though
[01:11] <RebornDV> i hope you don't mean et the atari game
[01:11] <justin1278> no
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> RTCW:ET has a active modders/mapmakers base..
[01:11] <justin1278> ET = Enemy Territory
[01:11] <RebornDV> ah
[01:11] <RebornDV> must be better
[01:11] <Dr_Willis> It aint dieing out any time soon
[01:11] <nivanson> gnomefreak: That's too bad. :) I'll have to stick with ndiswrapper then. Thanks
[01:12] <justin1278> Activision is going to make a new ET game called
[01:12] <justin1278> Enemy Territory Quake Wars
[01:12] <morfic> hm, where do sources end up when you get them with: apt-get source $somepackage
[01:12] <Raven301> nivanson: http://timia.net/agios/index.php?page=UbuntuKernel
[01:12] <qu1ckfr0st> someone help me please?
[01:12] <RebornDV> so no ideas on the sound disappearing issues?
[01:12] <nivanson> Raven301: Thank you, but I'm sticking to packages :D
[01:13] <Raven301> nivanson: it builds a .deb at the end
[01:13] <qu1ckfr0st> so it wont allow me to resize my partition still, do I have to set it as unactive or something?
[01:13] <Raven301> nivanson: Linux raven301-laptop 2.6.18.2-01 #1 SMP Sat Nov 4 14:09:10 EST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  with the live cd?
[01:14] <qu1ckfr0st> yeah im on the live cd, but my main partition is active
[01:14] <nivanson> Raven301: Oh, let's try it then! :D Thanks again
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> run the tool as root/with sudo
[01:14] <RebornDV> on a fresh install on this laptop the sound works great but after a while the sound stops working
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  not as the livdcd user.
[01:14] <MaterMaravillae> hi, can somebody tell me what you have in /home/.../.kde/Autostart, please?
[01:14] <qu1ckfr0st> how do I do that?
[01:14] <superkirbyartist> Dr_Willis, monitor now works.
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> MaterMaravillae:  .desktop files. commands, scripts, links
[01:14] <edu> There is a package called "ipmasq", would it be enought?
[01:14] <Raven301> nivanson: I've used it about 5 times now and it worked everytime :)
[01:14] <RebornDV> :(
[01:14] <superkirbyartist> Thank you ^_^.
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> superkirbyartist:  cools :)
[01:15] <MaterMaravillae> ok ty Dr_Willis
[01:15] <morfic> oops, the current dir :/
[01:15] <qu1ckfr0st> Dr_Willis: how do I run the tool as root/with sudo ?
[01:15] <yeti> edu: enough for what?
[01:15] <nivanson> Raven301: Great! :)
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  try sudo -s, or sudo thenameofthecommand, i dont mess with the ubuntu live cd's they are lacking in ways. :) i perfer slax live cds
[01:16] <edu> for connecting my ds to the internet through my laptop
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  or see if tgeres a root-shell icon somewhere
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> edu:  check the ubuntu wiki/forums for a guide perhaps?
[01:17] <qu1ckfr0st> Dr_Willis: cant i just open konsole and start a root shell?
[01:17] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  try it and see....
[01:18] <qu1ckfr0st> Dr_Willis: it just opens one as root@ubuntu
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> then thats a root shell.
[01:18] <yeti> edu: you would not even need ipmasq for that. is there anyone else on your LAN but your laptop and your ds?
[01:18] <qu1ckfr0st> Dr_Willis: so now what?
[01:18] <edu> no!
[01:18] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  run the parted command - whatever its called...
[01:19] <yeti> edu: then, as root: "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" and set your laptop's IP as standard gateway on your desktop
[01:19] <qu1ckfr0st> alright
[01:19] <Dr_Willis> yeti:  thats the heart of the ip-masq howto. :)
[01:20] <edu> ok, and then, if a search a wireless point in my ds, will it appear?
[01:20] <qu1ckfr0st> Dr_Willis: what do I now? specify sector size for the device?
[01:20] <yeti> edu: LOL no, nut unless your DS has a wireless card
[01:20] <edu> yes
[01:20] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  no idea what you are doing exactly. gparted was rather straight forward with sliders and  so forth.
[01:21] <edu> the ds has built-in wifi
[01:21] <qu1ckfr0st> Dr_Willis: cant i just install gparted and use that?
[01:21] <yeti> edu: but what do you need to use your laptop for if you can already connect to a wireless LAN with your ds?
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> select the drive, slide the sliders, hit the apply button (i think) go get some food.
[01:21] <edu> i need my laptop
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  no idea. I DONT USE the kubuntu live cd..  i use live cd's that i know come with gparted.
[01:21] <edu> beacuse i have a 56k connectioni
[01:21] <edu> and there are no routers for that...
[01:21] <Dr_Willis> gparted may be on the kubuntu live cd.. it may not be.
[01:22] <edu> so I'm connecting to inernet with the laptop and then using it as a router for the ds
[01:22] <edu> (sorry for my little English :-P)
[01:22] <qu1ckfr0st> Dr_Willis: im installing gparted right now
[01:22] <yeti> yeah well, so your question is whether you'll still be able to access wireless networks if you set your ds' standard gateway to your laptop's ip?
[01:23] <edu> um.......
[01:23] <yeti> if that is your question, the answer is yes, as long as you've configured your wireless stuff properly
[01:23] <edu> well my question is
[01:23] <edu> how can i configure my laptop to act as a wireless point?
[01:24] <edu> wireless acces point*
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> edu:  you got wireless working on the laptop at all...
[01:25] <edu> yes, the card is set up properly...
[01:26] <edu> it can search other wireless networks and that stuff
[01:26] <edu> but i don't know how to create one!
[01:26] <Th3_Cr0up13R> I have been playing with the colours for 2 hours now and i changed everything , on the tree on the left i can see the names of the folders fine
[01:26] <Th3_Cr0up13R> but on the right where the files are i see them very white
[01:26] <Th3_Cr0up13R> cannot make out the writing
[01:26] <Th3_Cr0up13R> is there any way i can change that ?
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> what DS games even use the internet?
[01:28] <RebornDV> mario kart?
[01:28] <Th3_Cr0up13R> when i select them i can see the selected colour works fine but the normal does not seem to make it out at all
[01:28] <steve> hi I need some help with wireless
[01:28] <steve> what is the best sniffer
[01:29] <steve> I need to be able to see the wireless ap in my area
[01:29] <Th3_Cr0up13R> does anyone know how this can be fixed
[01:29] <edu> mario kart, metroid primer hunters... but also homebrew, like linux ds, beup (a msn messenger client) wifi apps... voice chats, and things like that.
[01:29] <dragonfly7> Is there some sort of keyboard shortcut app built into kde? Every once and a while, I hit some key combination that launches something which makes the keyboard launch things rather than type.
[01:30] <dragonfly7> It seems like a stciky keys kind of thing.
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> alt-space
[01:30] <edu> Um.. I'm trying with firestarter, it looks cool :-D
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> hmm let me go get my DS and see.. lol..
[01:30] <dragonfly7> Any suggestions for turning it off?
[01:31] <edu> OMG, this is what i was looking for! at last!!
[01:31] <edu> well, good bye, and thanks for your support! Dr_Willis and yeti
[01:32] <RebornDV> i'm having a problem with kubuntu on this laptop... when i first install it the sound works great but after a while it stops working... and ideas?
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> dragonfly7:  other then learning to type. :)
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> hmm it dont seem to be running for me.
[01:34] <dragonfly7> dragonfly7: thank you, that is so helpful. :) I think there should be a way to disable whatever it is.
[01:34] <dragonfly7> NO!
[01:34] <dragonfly7> Why am I talking to myself??? I mean Dr_Willis.
[01:34] <letalis> dragonfly7: its probably a setting un keyboard in system settings panel
[01:34] <letalis> are you wanting to disable keyboard shotcuts?
[01:35] <letalis> shortcuts
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> i think hes triggering katapult by mistake
[01:35] <Dr_Willis> thats alt-space right?
[01:36] <letalis> what does katapult do exactly? ive started it and it shows a katapult logo and doesnt do much else
[01:36] <aseigo> letalis: hit alt-space
[01:36] <letalis> hell amor seemed more useful.
[01:36] <aseigo> letalis: then start typing something
[01:37] <Dr_Willis> i cant even get alt-space to show it up
[01:38] <RebornDV> :(
[01:38] <dragonfly7> Katapult, yes, that sounds familiar.
[01:38] <dragonfly7> If I do it again, will it go away?
[01:38] <letalis> ok i see what it does now
[01:38] <letalis> just lets you select stuff on the dektop without a mouse
[01:38] <letalis> desktop
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> alt-space keeps opening the file menu. :)
[01:39] <Dr_Willis> well the windows control menu heh
[01:40] <steveire> katapult is cool. I just discovered it properly today.
[01:40] <dragonfly7> I hate katapult since it confuses me. If I do alt+space again, will it stop it?
[01:41] <steveire> stop what dragonfly7?
[01:41] <letalis> you could just kill it with killall
[01:41] <dragonfly7> Stop the katapult keyboard shortcuts. When it is being used I cant use the keyboard.
[01:42] <dragonfly7> I have to restart x. Or at least I had to. Now that I know alt+space starts it, I can disable that.
[01:43] <Tiger_IT> Tiger_IT gogogo
[01:43] <mc_> what does katapult do?
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> had to restartx to get out of katapult? gee - hitting enter dident do it?
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> mc_:  its a fancy launcher/tool
[01:44] <mc_> Dr_Willis: i iinstalled and started it,but i dont understand what to do with it
[01:44] <mc_> Dr_Willis: i also dont see anything
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> google for its homepage. :)
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> hit alt-space and see what happens
[01:44] <dragonfly7> I didn't try, I was kind of freaking out about the lack of keyboard control and the applications starting.
[01:44] <letalis> i killed katapult, i dont think thats it because i can still use alt+space to select things on the desktop
[01:44] <Dr_Willis> dragonfly7:  rule #1 'dont panic' :)
[01:45] <superkirbyartist> Fonts look a little ugly.
[01:45] <letalis> all due respect, unless youre in a shell, why are you typing in x to begin with?
[01:45] <mc_> Dr_Willis: omfg why didnt i discover such a great tool earlier
[01:45] <superkirbyartist> Because.
[01:45] <letalis> lol
[01:45] <Dr_Willis> superkirbyartist:  gogle for the various font tweak guides.
[01:46] <mc_> that changes life dramatically for me ^^
[01:46] <superkirbyartist> But the fonts was working fine earlier!
[01:46] <superkirbyartist> Now they have dots everywhere!
[01:46] <Dr_Willis> http://wiki.thekatapult.org.uk/Home
[01:46] <letalis> superkirbyartist: did you add fonts?
[01:46] <dragonfly7> Yeah, I shouldn't have. I am ashamed
[01:46] <superkirbyartist> None at all.
[01:46] <letalis> what was the last change you made to the system before you saw the change?
[01:47] <superkirbyartist> Don't remember... I think none.
[01:48] <letalis> hmm
[01:48] <letalis> it just started doing it?
[01:48] <letalis> no reason at all?
[01:49] <shadowhywind> here is a off the wall question, A friend of mine wants to make a Bumpersticker for his car, with the kubuntu logo, any trademarks or anything that he should be afraid of?
[01:51] <dragonfly7> OK< WHAT IS GOING ON>
[01:51] <dragonfly7> SCROLL LOCK IS STUCK ON< CAPS LOCK SAYS ITS OFF BUT WONT TURN OFF
[01:51] <dragonfly7> ENTER DOESNT WORK< OR ANY NORMAL KEYBOARD SHORTCUTS
[01:52] <gnomefreak> dragonfly7: reboot
[01:52] <tmoorman> Anyone have this msg in X.org log? "Error loading keymap /var/lib/xkb/server-0.xkm"
[01:52] <cntb> dragonfly7: ctrl alt f1 wont work either ?
[01:52] <dragonfly7> And now its back to normal.
[01:53] <cntb> gnomefreak: that sounds so m$
[01:53] <letalis> im starting to wonder if your keyboard setup is incorrect
[01:53] <dragonfly7> I think I have a ghost stuck in my keyboard. :)
[01:53] <letalis> did you just install kubuntu?
[01:53] <gnomefreak> cntb: only way to turn off keyboard
[01:53] <gnomefreak> that i know of
[01:53] <dragonfly7> No, it has been working fine for weeks.
[01:53] <cntb> dragonfly7: cpu was too busy
[01:53] <cntb> have many firefox windows there ?
[01:54] <dragonfly7> I don't think so... I haven't been running anything.
[01:54] <cntb> so strange
[01:54] <dragonfly7> Just one firefox window, and kopete and a konsole window.
[01:54] <felixjet> it is possible to open with imagemagick an imagen, an create a new image of part of the image? i mean, take from 25,25 to 300,300. cut it and make a new image. it is possible in command line?
[01:55] <dragonfly7> Well, now I know that if it does it again I just have to type in caps till everyone gets irritated, then it will quit.
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> felixjet:  ive seen that done in imageicmagic tutorials/magazine articals
[01:55] <qu1ckfr0st> im running Gparted from a kubuntu live cd, and it wont allow me to change my primary partition because it's apparently being used, how do I run without using that partition?
[01:55] <cntb> memory management is kernel's resposibvilty ? right ?
[01:55] <qu1ckfr0st> by change, i mean edit.
[01:55] <felixjet> thanks Dr_Willis
[01:56] <tmoorman> Anyone have this msg in X.org log? "Error loading keymap /var/lib/xkb/server-0.xkm" or something similiar?
[01:56] <Search4Lancer> ahhhh I have looping program crashes!
[01:56] <peanutb> klipper seems to want to paste nothing insted of the thing i just copied, making ctrl+c useless, any ideas
[01:56] <justin1278> hello does anyone know how i can get Gnome on Kubuntu?
[01:57] <MattCornell> apt-get install gdm ?
[01:57] <dragonfly7> apt-get gnome-desktop?
[01:57] <MattCornell> ahh..
[01:57] <felixjet> Dr_Willis: do you know any link to start from?
[01:57] <Search4Lancer> yeah, you install gnome :-P
[01:57] <peanutb> justin1278, do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[01:57] <justin1278> sry im a noob at linux lol
[01:57] <justin1278> ok thanks guys
[01:57] <BonBonTheJon> anyone having problems with wireless in edgy
[01:57] <justin1278> i was having issues with Wireless on Ubuntu Edgy
[01:57] <Search4Lancer> no, but I am having problems getting edgy to begin with
[01:57] <justin1278> but not on Kubuntu
[01:58] <tmoorman> Anyone having problems with fonts on GTK apps?
[01:58] <peanutb> justin1278, what card?
[01:58] <BonBonTheJon> justin1278: can you see the network but not connect
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> felixjet:  google for tutorials/examples i guess.
[01:58] <justin1278> no
[01:58] <cntb> markelhas:  hi
[01:59] <markelhas> cntb: hi
[01:59] <markelhas> :)
[01:59] <justin1278> i cannot even get a wireless network
[01:59] <justin1278> i have intel 915GM
[01:59] <peanutb> justin1278, your card might not be supported, check https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[01:59] <cntb> what happens when sudoers file has syntax error ? any workaround?
[01:59] <markelhas> i've a problem with sudo command can anyone help me out!?
[01:59] <cntb> !sudoers
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sudoers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <markelhas> got >>> sudoers file: syntax error, line 0 <<<
[02:00] <cntb> !sudo | markelhas
[02:00] <ubotu> markelhas: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:00] <MattCornell> felixjet:  advanced image editing from the command line with Image=Magik  http://software.newsforge.com/software/05/04/29/1358220.shtml
[02:00] <felixjet> MattCornell:  thanks!
[02:00] <Search4Lancer> ah wtf Kopete won't connect to anything....
[02:00] <justin1278> then why would it be supported on Kubuntu but not Ubuntu?
[02:00] <felixjet> try to find this in google can take ages xD
[02:00] <MattCornell> felixjet: Np!  I made a cool image once f
[02:00] <MattCornell> that would use the ip address of the person looking for bad web pages  in it
[02:01] <justin1278> yes my chipset/wireless card is supported
[02:01] <peanutb> justin1278, it would be supported the same on both.
[02:01] <BonBonTheJon> any one know why I can see a wireless network but can't connect to it
[02:01] <justin1278> ok
[02:02] <MattCornell> I'll try and plug my wireless usb  device to see if it works :)
[02:03] <cntb> what happens if one cannot sudo
[02:03] <cntb> ? cannot sudo because of sudoers file syntax error by some editing mistake?
[02:03] <cntb> anyone?
[02:03] <MattCornell> google - "recover from a broken sudo"
[02:04] <MattCornell> http://paulsiu.wordpress.com/2006/07/28/recovery-from-a-broken-sudo/
[02:04] <MattCornell> now that I read it... it doesn't have an answer there
[02:04] <MattCornell> that would be great if that was your blog
[02:05] <cntb> ty very much MattCornell
[02:05] <markelhas> MattCornell: going to try
[02:05] <MattCornell> cntb: try going to 'safe mode'
[02:05] <MattCornell> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sudo
[02:05] <peanutb> anyone know why klipp would be acting up?
[02:05] <justin1278> when i have gnome installed on Kubuntu how can i switch between the KDE and Gnome themes?
[02:05] <cntb> or rescue from CD?
[02:05] <cntb> that sounds like solving
[02:06] <cntb> MattCornell:  must edit sudoers from rescue mode
[02:06] <peanutb> justin1278, there is kdm and gdm. you chose one during install of gnome
[02:06] <cntb> but MattCornell howto reset sudoers file?
[02:07] <justin1278> peanutb, ok i just got that now, but how do i switch when i decide i want to use the other?
[02:07] <markelhas> MattCornell: i don't now what's wrong with the file
[02:07] <MattCornell> well.. first I would backup what I have currently
[02:07] <MattCornell> then I would try to adduser
[02:07] <markelhas> MattCornell: can u show your's to me
[02:07] <MattCornell> I don't use sudo
[02:07] <MattCornell> I like to wear big pants all the time
[02:07] <MattCornell> :)
[02:07] <cntb> lesson to markelhas
[02:08] <cntb> markelhas:  To avoid damaging your sudoers file, always edit it with  sudo visudo
[02:08] <peanutb> justin1278, do you want to switch from gno,e to kde ?
[02:08] <MattCornell> I don't know why people are so scared of root on a single user machine
[02:08] <markelhas> cntb: :(
[02:08] <MattCornell> sudo is really nice... just more overhead then I need
[02:08] <cntb> MattCornell: all PCs are connected to net
[02:08] <justin1278> peanutb, i set KDE as my default because at the moment i prefer KDE but I would like to switch to using gnome every now and then
[02:08] <markelhas> cntb: going to reboot in same mode to check the file
[02:08] <MattCornell> cntb: and....?
[02:09] <peanutb> justin1278, one sec
[02:09] <cntb> and may automatically turn to honeypots MattCornell. that must be the reason why
[02:09] <justin1278> peanutb, is there a way just to change the look from KDE to Gnome?
[02:09] <justin1278> peanutb, ok
[02:09] <MattCornell> um... isn't a honeypot something someone sets up intentionally to attract nefarious activity?
[02:09] <cntb> secvurity discussion is always interesting , though not so easy
[02:10] <MattCornell> sudo only really protects from priviledge escalation from what I understood
[02:10] <peanutb> justin1278, on the login screen, go to Menu>Session type>gnome
[02:10] <cntb> honeypot is ahoneypot than it may turn to be the base of hackers attack
[02:10] <peanutb> justin1278, then just login as normal
[02:10] <justin1278> ok
[02:10] <MattCornell> I'm pretty sure it would just be called a pot then :)
[02:10] <cntb> net split DoS and many nasty  things
[02:11] <justin1278> peanutb, thanks once again!
[02:11] <cntb> I am not expert in any of these
[02:11] <MattCornell> honeypot has a paticular meaning... and it's something a does with the intention of attracting visitors
[02:11] <nekomata> are there any other Azureus users here?
[02:11] <peanutb> justin1278, it was nothing
[02:11] <Kim^J> I got this new haxx... Just write /part
[02:11] <Kim^J> =)
[02:11] <MattCornell> "a does" = "a whitehat (usually) does"
[02:11] <osiris> is there a gui app for creating/destroying partitions ?  i just put in a new hard drive, and want to format it to make it my new /home partition
[02:12] <luca> hi everybody
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> osiris:  gparted is nice. theres vbariants of it out.
[02:12] <peanutb> osiris, qtparted
[02:12] <justin1278> peanutb, and when i wish to use KDE I just type KDE in the same place correct?
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> qtparted/gparted/parted/ or good old fdisk. :)
[02:12] <luca> is there a simple painless method to increase the swap partition w/out having to format everything?
[02:12] <peanutb> justin1278, its a menu
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> luca:  you could always make a swap file and add it to the swap used by the syste,
[02:12] <justin1278> peanutb, ok thanks
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> by the system
[02:12] <cntb> so are you saying MattCornell you are actually with root active in GUI?
[02:12] <peanutb> justin1278, so just choose kde or gnome
[02:13] <luca> or both
[02:13] <osiris> peanutb, Dr_Willis thx
[02:13] <justin1278> ok
[02:13] <luca> or the three of them with xfce :D
[02:13] <MattCornell> cntb: nope... that would be silly. Just when I have to do anything on a system level I just root.
[02:13] <luca> is there any way for changing the swap as you are speaking of partitions?
[02:14] <cntb> there you go MattCornell
[02:14] <luca> my kde is unnaturally slow...ooffice and firefox combined make it crash (???) and I want to see if increasing my 1 gb partition the situation improves
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> you could always boot to a live cd./ and resize the partitions..
[02:14] <Dr_Willis> luca:  how muych ram ya got?
[02:14] <luca> 512 mb
[02:14] <campbch> anyone here play MUDs? if so, what client is the best? or is that a subjective thing?
[02:15] <cntb> if you come across a sudoers solution pls inform me and markelhas who is offline now
[02:15] <dragonfly7> Is there a simple way to sync two folders? (ie: a network music folder and a music folder on my laptop)
[02:15] <Dr_Willis> campbch:  check the freshmeat web site, or the Linux GameTome Site. see whats popular.
[02:15] <peanutb> luca, probably making the partition bigger will help
[02:15] <luca> peanutb: how can I do that?
[02:15] <cntb> rsync dragonfly7 ?
[02:15] <campbch> alright
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> 512mb ram + 1gb swap.. , thtas not too bad.
[02:16] <dragonfly7> cntb: rsync, is that a GUI app?
[02:16] <MattCornell> cntb... the solution is pretty straight forward. You need to boot to the single user mode of your kernel and then repair the sudo files.
[02:16] <charlie5> the disk partition/mount tool seems gone from system settings in edgy ?
[02:16] <peanutb> luca, get qtparted from adept, its pretty self expanatory
[02:16] <Dr_Willis> be easy to add another gb swap file. I just cant rember how.
[02:16] <luca> peanutb which repo?
[02:16] <cntb> MattCornell: repair how
[02:16] <beavis> kubuntu 6.10 has some problems , it does not work on my nf2ultra motherboard where the only harddrive is  sata, fist time it failed to boot x,  the second time it coulnt find the installation at all
[02:16] <MattCornell> well... that woudl require knowing what was wrong :)
[02:16] <charlie5> is there a replacement ?
[02:17] <cntb> ah gotcha
[02:17] <luca> peanutb it is not in the default ones, I am checking
[02:17] <cntb> rtfm 'bout sudoers? no wqay to reset that ?
[02:17] <peanutb> luca, probably universe
[02:17] <luca> peanutb I am trying with gparted
[02:17] <cntb> that makews it less straightforward MattCornell
[02:17] <luca> how much would you advise?
[02:18] <peanutb> luca, i usually give ubuntu at least 3-4 gb
[02:18] <cntb> anyway our frined from Portugal restarted and must be trying smething a that moment
[02:19] <MattCornell> cntb there are two files that could be 'broked'   /etc/sudoers and /etc/group
[02:20] <MattCornell> the sudoers files declares the users and groups that have 'big boy' priviledges
[02:20] <charlie5> sorry ... i must be blind ... just found the 'advanced' tab in "system settings"
[02:20] <luca> peanutb I have a problem
[02:20] <MattCornell> usually says something like:   root ALL=(ALL) ALL
[02:20] <luca> I have a dual boot syste,
[02:20] <luca> system
[02:20] <MattCornell> and then another line for the admin group:  %admin ALL+(ALL) ALL
[02:21] <luca> It does not let me modify the win partition now
[02:21] <MattCornell> whoops... make that %admin ALL=(ALL) ALL
[02:21] <luca> only the linux one
[02:21] <peanutb> luca, is it ntfs?
[02:21] <luca> yep :(
[02:21] <peanutb> the windows
[02:21] <luca> other problem...how can I modify the linux partition if I have to unmount it before?
[02:22] <markelhas> MattCornell: recovery mode + edit sudousers 100%
[02:22] <luca> I guess that would quite end the session... O_o
[02:22] <markelhas> MattCornell: cntb thkns
[02:22] <peanutb> luca, you probably have to boot into a live cd, sorry forgot to tell you thatr
[02:22] <markelhas> MattCornell: & cntb: thkns
[02:22] <MattCornell> markelhas: You all set?
[02:22] <luca> uh I do not have the live CD
[02:22] <markelhas> MattCornell: yap
[02:22] <luca> good
[02:22] <MattCornell> markelhas: cool... don't get honey potted.
[02:22] <qu1ckfr0st> hey
[02:22] <luca> let the download begin.. :(
[02:22] <MattCornell> :)
[02:23] <markelhas> MattCornell: one more thing
[02:23] <MattCornell> uhoh... I"m sure not to know this
[02:23] <peanutb> luca, thats alwase fun
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> theres several really small live cd's that have the parted tools out.
[02:23] <qu1ckfr0st> i made a new partition thats 4gb with ext3 filetype, that has no os. I want to put ubuntu on that partition, anyone have any idea how I can do that?
[02:23] <Dr_Willis> qu1ckfr0st:  tell the isntaller where its at and to mount it as /
[02:23] <markelhas> MattCornell: when a reboot my kubunt the os hangs
[02:24] <qu1ckfr0st> hm alright
[02:24] <markelhas> MattCornell: i've to shutdow wait a little time then boot my kubuntu
[02:24] <Dr_Willis> Not sure how smart the live cd installer it.. you could just delete the partition, and tell it to use the UNALLOCATED space.
[02:24] <markelhas> MattCornell: any reason for that
[02:24] <markelhas> ?
[02:25] <MattCornell> markelhas: eww... usually you can figure it out from the kernel messages right before it 'hangs'
[02:25] <MattCornell> if there is a kernel panic then you may need to look a few lines 'before' the kernel dumps it's registers
[02:25] <markelhas> MattCornell: the msg is in Alt+F7 right?
[02:25] <luca> peanutb how can I use the torrent option? when I go to the ubuntu download page, I get only the iso download...
[02:26] <luca> other than this: how can I repartition my windows ntf drive without destroying it?
[02:26] <MattCornell> markelhas: usually the dmesg is in the first terminal... and the GUI is on the Alt=F7
[02:26] <Ahmuck> i am getting an error.  kdesu - KDialog Configuration  file"/home/user/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals" not writable
[02:26] <peanutb> luca, there is a torrent file
[02:26] <MattCornell> markelhas: what do you mean by 'hang'? do you have a shell prompt?
[02:26] <peanutb> luca, further down
[02:27] <luca> peanutb forget it...at this speed it will take just half an hour tops
[02:27] <luca> :)
[02:27] <peanutb> :)
[02:27] <markelhas> MattCornell: the re-booting process block in splash screen of kubuntu
[02:27] <luca> what about the NTFS? any suggestions?
[02:27] <peanutb> luca, i know that qtparted can do ntfs
[02:28] <MattCornell> markelhas: ahh - do you mean that you have to power off to reboot?
[02:28] <markelhas> MattCornell: yaps
[02:28] <MattCornell> markelhas: there are any number of reasons for that... I for one am not the person to talk to about that because I too have that problem
[02:29] <markelhas> MattCornell: oki oki
[02:29] <MattCornell> I guess the embedded network interface on my motherboard (e1000) just doesn't give up the ghost on reboot some times
[02:29] <MattCornell> if you have an Intel motherboard then I have had some moderate success with unloading the network driver's module before rebooting
[02:29] <markelhas> MattCornell: oki thnks
[02:29] <markelhas> bye bye
[02:34] <beavis> does nvidia video driver have good support f the 7XXX series cards under linux?
[02:34] <h3sp4wn> beavis: Should be fine
[02:35] <h3sp4wn> beavis: seen a few problems with 7950 (the dual core one) but the others should work fine
[02:35] <m0zone> sup peeps
[02:36] <m0zone> hey in kde whats the task  manager called to like kill runing process lol  :P
[02:36] <beavis> h3sp4wn, thank you, i was thinking about getting 7800gt for a linux box , couse ati drivers are not so good
[02:37] <m0zone> 6600gt  working good here :P el cheapo card tho
[02:38] <Dr_Willis> for the $$ 6600 is a decent value
[02:39] <m0zone> i payed 90$ for mine  and runs q3 like mad same with savage edm and other linux games  warsow loves it also
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> its always nice to see good cards get dirt cheap.
[02:39] <Dr_Willis> warsow.. hmm.. i think i tried that once.. what kind of fps was it?
[02:39] <h3sp4wn> I have been on the lookout for a passive nvidia with 8 pipes
[02:40] <m0zone> warsow has like no lag    nexiuz kills me due to has werid net code keep getin clock on the screen and lockin up
[02:40] <m0zone> dont know warsow on normal setting like 120+ fps
[02:41] <m0zone> hey anyone know if kde has like a process viewer to show everyhting that is running and such  lol
[02:41] <dennister> howdy again
[02:42] <dennister> i finally have my nvidia AND my ivtv drivers installed ... yahoo!
[02:42] <m0zone> how does tv out work ?  can u set full screen video only on tv out?
[02:43] <beavis> m0zone, there is an app that shows all the running processes but i dont know what its called
[02:43] <m0zone> not yet tryed that on mine i got this werid multi plug cord
[02:43] <dennister> don't know yet :) need something to test it with
[02:43] <beavis> m0zone, i havent used linux in a while
[02:43] <luca> peanutb it is qtparted not qparted ;)
[02:43] <m0zone> beavis i found it last night by mistake when my comp freaked out after i played with xgl  need to use it again lol
[02:44] <luca> other little problem...it seems that kdewallet is no more able to store the passwords in the kdewallet :(
[02:44] <dennister> but it's soooooo much easier to get the ivtv stuff in with edgy
[02:44] <m0zone> i set up xgl  works great  but beryl loads like 2 copys when i start it  i need to keel one  and i am a noob
[02:44] <beavis> m0zone, it should be in the menu , look under system
[02:45] <peanutb> luca, :)
[02:45] <luca> anyone: is it SAFE to repartition the NTFS partition from Linux? what should I do before I try?
[02:45] <luca> I do not want to end up with windows completely destroyed
[02:46] <luca> I have already done this operation when I created Ubuntu but...
[02:46] <Search4Lancer> why not?
[02:46] <peanutb> luca, the safest way is to change it with windows
[02:47] <luca> peanutb: how?
[02:47] <peanutb> luca, then leave the free space and add it to ubuntu's partition.
[02:47] <luca> I do not have partition magic...
[02:47] <peanutb> luca, is it xp pro
[02:47] <luca> uhm I guess yeah
[02:48] <luca> (use it seldom - so I am not sure, it was in the laptop. Ubuntu came three days after ;) )
[02:48] <dennister> !plf
[02:48] <ubotu> PLF is the Penguin Liberation Front. For more info see: http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf. PLF is down indefinitely pending a new maintainer; see http://plf.zarb.org/. see also !seveas
[02:48] <luca> m0zone use ksysguard
[02:48] <peanutb> luca, under control pannel there is something called administrative tools, then computer management, it has a module to manage partitions
[02:48] <luca> m0zone if you are using KDE
[02:49] <m0zone> yar thanks
[02:49] <dennister> !seveas
[02:49] <ubotu> Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:49] <luca> peanutb thanks
[02:49] <luca> I will finish to download the iso, burn it, and then let it begin :)
[02:50] <luca> I hope it solves my problems - it is really impossible to work in these conditions. Still I do not like sacrificing 3 gb to the swap... :(
[02:50] <BluesKaj> 1G is enuf for a swap
[02:51] <luca> BluesKaj I thought so before my KDE began to slow down in unbearable ways
[02:51] <h3sp4wn> Depends if you want to use suspend2 you need a twice your ram swap partition to be safe
[02:51] <luca> I am not able to use ooffice and firefox at the same time for fear Kubuntu will crash :(
[02:53] <luca> I have had to manually reboot Linux something like tens of times, stop the user processes by using ctrl+alt+f1, in general, I have not been able to use my pc
[02:53] <peanutb> luca, you want to make the swap bigger?
[02:53] <BluesKaj> how much RAM do you have onboard , luca ?
[02:53] <luca> peanutb yeah, I want to see if that is the problem
[02:53] <luca> BlueSkaj 512 mb
[02:53] <peanutb> luca, i very much doubt it
[02:53] <Ahmuck> can i delete .kde
[02:53] <luca> BlueSkaj which are COMPLETELY filled by kubuntu
[02:53] <sorush20> I can'#t see the date on my clock even though I selected to see it what can I do?
[02:54] <Ahmuck> from my home directory ?
[02:54] <BluesKaj> then 3 G isn't going to help...AAMOF it could slow things down
[02:54] <luca> Ahmuck yes you can - but some problems will be on your way :(
[02:54] <luca> BlueSkaj what do you suggest?
[02:54] <peanutb> luca, send us the output of top from the terminal
[02:54] <luca> peanutb cat /proc/meminfo ?
[02:54] <Ahmuck> well, i have problems now, .kde is not writable
[02:55] <BluesKaj> swap file should usually be thew same but not more than RAM ..or so i've been advised
[02:55] <peanutb> luca, issue top at konsole
[02:55] <luca> peanutb which command? sorry if  am thick
[02:55] <peanutb> luca, "top"
[02:55] <h3sp4wn> BluesKaj: Twice the ram - up until you have a gb of swap
[02:56] <luca> ok, how can I send it to you'
[02:56] <luca> ?
[02:56] <peanutb> luca, paste it into pastebin.com
[02:56] <luca> consider that now I have only firefox and little else open
[02:56] <peanutb> luca, and send us a link
[02:57] <BluesKaj> ok , well 1G RAM here, and the swap is 1G
[02:58] <dennister> dang it all...blasted and heck!
[02:58] <peanutb> luca, or dcc it to me
[02:58] <dennister> lol
[02:59] <luca> peanutb one sec...it is hell, as every voice changes in continuum
[02:59] <dennister> kicks herself
[02:59] <luca> I am not able to block it and get a copy
[02:59] <fatejudger> for some reason it seems as though I can't define Global Shortcuts in KMix now that I've upgraded to Edgy
[02:59] <luca> forget it done
[03:00] <luca> :)
[03:00] <fatejudger> has anyone experienced any trouble with these global shortcuts in Edgy?
[03:00] <luca> sending...
[03:01] <m0zone> anyone have the problem of konq sending .run type files to kate when i try and download one :P
[03:02] <luca> uh how do I send something? it keeps giving me 'error'
[03:02] <peanutb> u probablky havent registered your nick.
[03:02] <peanutb> paste it into pastebin.com
[03:05] <luca> uhm ok I will register first..
[03:06] <nickv111> Hi. I have a lot of packages that should be upgraded since I upgraded to Edgy, but they're all being held back
[03:07] <nickv111> On both of my Kubuntu boxes
[03:07] <dennister> i seem to be having some real problems with seveas repo, as well as his mirror
[03:07] <nickv111> 37 packages are being held back from upgrading, including amarok and python packages.
[03:07] <dennister> i must have edited my sources.list 1/2 dozen times
[03:10] <peanutb> Edgy was sorta shoved out it seems.
[03:11] <BluesKaj> only had a few probs ...everything that worked in dapper works in edgy and some others that didn't work before do now
[03:12] <Dr_Willis> im glad i did a clean install :)
[03:12] <dennister> i really love how u can download the ivtv drivers from repos in edgy
[03:12] <luca> peanutb it is something like 10 minutes now that pastebin is trying to paste my file... :(
[03:12] <dennister> awesome!
[03:13] <mhz> hi all
[03:13] <dennister> there were absolutely no errors
[03:13] <luca> peanutb may I just transfer the txt to you in dcc?
[03:14] <BluesKaj> luca  try www.pastebin.ca instead ...it's not as busy
[03:14] <nickv111> dennister: Wow! Really? I've had a card supported by them for quite some time now
[03:14] <nickv111> dennister: Excellent.
[03:15] <dennister> which card nickv111?
[03:15] <peanutb> luca, shur
[03:16] <peanutb> luca, just see which one looks like it is taking up a lot of ram in top
[03:17] <luca> http://pastebin.ca/241290
[03:18] <luca> Xorg???
[03:18] <nickv111> dennister: I forget.
[03:18] <nickv111> dennister: I think it's a PVR-150
[03:18] <luca> It does not even come out in the ksysguard!
[03:18] <peanutb> luca, it seems fine
[03:18] <luca> ok now I try with ooffice too....if I am able to avoid the crash, I will send you the report
[03:19] <peanutb> luca, type kill konsole at konsole
[03:20] <peanutb> luca, its taking up a lot of ram
[03:20] <luca> killall -9 konsole ;)
[03:20] <peanutb> yah
[03:20] <nickv111> dennister: How did you set up the card? I've done it on gentoo, but never on Ubuntu
[03:20] <luca> ok I will have to reactivate it again in some minutes I guess
[03:20] <nickv111> dennister: Could you point me to an up-to-date manual on how to set up the card for Ubuntu?
[03:21] <peanutb> luca, is ooo working now
[03:21] <peanutb> luca, or is it faster
[03:21] <luca> it is slowing down the machine as always
[03:22] <peanutb> luca, sorry i have to go.
[03:22] <luca> np :)
[03:22] <nickv111> dennister: I'm using http://ivtvdriver.org/index.php/Howto:Ubuntu now, with some obvious adjustments (not using the repository he provided)
[03:22] <JymmmEMC> I tried ADD/REMOVE programs but I get "SU returned with an error" what gives?
[03:22] <dhuv> hello all
[03:23] <peanutb> luca, nevermind
[03:23] <dennister> nickv111: just a minute, i'm trying to get it for u.
[03:23] <luca> in any case it is already slowing
[03:23] <peanutb> luca, i dont rilly know how to help you.
[03:23] <luca> it takes 2 seconds to iconify ooffice... :(
[03:24] <dennister> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV_Edgy_Backend_Frontend_Desktop
[03:24] <luca> he I would really like to know how to do it myself :)
[03:24] <dhuv> I am a debian/kde user and want to try out kubuntu on a new laptop that I got.
[03:24] <dhuv> the problem is that this laptop has an nvidia ethernet and audio controller
[03:24] <dennister> it has several pages within that page...the lir/remote section is pretty extensive
[03:24] <dhuv> according to this page (http://xopen.dyndns.org/linux/v6024ea/ ) it should work
[03:24] <dhuv> but the installation stops detecting the network controller
[03:25] <dennister> Dr_Willis: u still here?
[03:25] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Allo
[03:25] <nikkun> dhuv: what to you mean stops?
[03:25] <nikkiana> hi DaSkreech
[03:25] <dhuv> it hangs detecting network hardware
[03:25] <peanutb> luca,at last resort,  you might try a new install.
[03:25] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: How are you doing?
[03:25] <nikkiana> DaSkreech: not too shabby
[03:25] <dhuv> when I hit alt+ctrl+del, the blue screen goes away and I can see that its trying to initialize eth1 (wireless ipw2100) but it cannot
[03:25] <nikkun> dhuv: do you have a ethernet cord pluged in that sends a signal?
[03:26] <luca> peanutb: I'd rather avoid that - I do not have a pc upon which to make a sync, it would mean writing four or more dvds :(
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> huh?
[03:26] <dhuv> I do have the cable plugged into the nic
[03:26] <dhuv> nikkun: but it still does the same thing
[03:26] <JymmmEMC> Any ideas on what/where to look to resolve this?   I tried using "ADD/REMOVE programs" on an install no less than 10 minutes old,  but I get "SU returned with an error"
[03:26] <dhuv> I will try again if needed
[03:26] <dennister> i have an issue that's been present since the beginning of my installation
[03:26] <dennister> i've put the error codes in http://pastebin.ca/241300
[03:27] <nikkun> dhuv: hmm i have had my laptop hang when nothing is plugged in but i have never heard it hanging while geting a singel
[03:27] <dennister> would you be able to tell me what's going on there? and how to fix it?
[03:27] <dhuv> nikkun: let me give it another try
[03:27] <peanutb> luca, i guess post to ubuntuforums
[03:27] <dhuv> I am trying 6.10
[03:27] <dhuv> just an fyi
[03:28] <nikkun> dhuv: ok try using ctrl-c to skip over it if it hangs again
[03:28] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  care to give a summary?
[03:28] <nickv111> dennister: Thank you
[03:28] <dennister> this same string of error codes comes up every time i try to edit any file, yet i can edit it, close, save, etc.
[03:28] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Exellent :)
[03:29] <Jymmm> couls someone repeat what they jsut said to me?
[03:29] <dennister> so it's not hampering me, but it's still worrisome
[03:29] <dennister> np nickv111; remember, it's the new edgy
[03:29] <m0zone> denn i get same errors
[03:30] <m0zone> like if i do a sudo abiword kate etc  apt/sources.list  console fills full of errors
[03:30] <m0zone> save and such works fine tho
[03:30] <david_> xgl, aixgl or nothing?
[03:30] <Dr_Willis> err touchpad.. heh
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[03:31] <Dr_Willis> is refering to a touchpad/tablet that dont exist...
[03:31] <dennister> exactly
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> trivial.. edit the xorg.conf and remove the offending entrys/edit the server layout.. or not worry about it. :)
[03:32] <nikkun> dont worry about it
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[03:32] <Dr_Willis> is proerly due to how you su/ran the program.
[03:32] <nikkun> i have tried removing the lines from xorg but unless you know how to tack down all the right lines you will probably break the whole thing
[03:32] <dhuv> nikkun: its hanging again, is there anyway to hide the blue screen so that I can see whats going on in the console?
[03:32] <dennister> but how did u determine it was trying to load a browser, touchpad, etc?
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> nikkun:  remove the entrys.. edit the serverlayout part. and remove the mention of the device..
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  err... i looked at the xorg.conf and saw it had an entry for it. :P
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> heh
[03:33] <nikkun> Dr_Willis: i tried that once i got a blue error screen lol
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> experience?
[03:33] <Dr_Willis> nikkun:  heh took me 2 min...
[03:33] <nikkun> dhuv: i dont know how to but does it work on the LiveCD?
[03:34] <dennister> ahhhh...so i can just take those whole sections out of xorg?
[03:34] <dhuv> nikkun: this is the alternate cd
[03:34] <dhuv> I downloaded it to to install
[03:34] <dhuv> today to install
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  if you want to - theres a factoid on the topic somewhere in the bot
[03:34] <nikkun> dhuv: the LiveCD is also to install >.<
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> !169
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 169 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:34] <Dr_Willis> !touchpad
[03:34] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about touchpad - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:35] <Dr_Willis> check the wiki/forums :)
[03:35] <dhuv> nikkun: what eventually happens is that it goes to 2% if you let it stay for a little while and it says "Loading module 'floppy' for 'Linux Floppy'"
[03:36] <nikkun> dhuv: i wonder if you didnt install some things with the alt install disc.  Personally i have never used it so i dont know what the setup would look like
[03:37] <Dr_Willis> i always use the alt-install cd. :)
[03:37] <Alter-Ego> i just lost my data partition -- /home
[03:38] <Alter-Ego> but the other partitions seem to be there on that drive, hdb1, 2, 5, etc.
[03:38] <Alter-Ego> any chance i could get 3 back ?
[03:38] <unix_infidel> are you sure you dont want 4 ?
[03:38] <Alter-Ego> i am booting from hda1
[03:38] <dennister> ok, have to restart x...bbs
[03:38] <Alter-Ego> unix_infidel: :-p
[03:38] <Dr_Willis> check 'fdisk -l' output -, see if it says anything about it?
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb
[03:39] <Alter-Ego> if my main installation is on hda1, and i lost drive hdb, would it still show those partitions on hdb?
[03:39] <Alter-Ego> k, brb
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> depends on how you 'lost' it.
[03:39] <Dr_Willis> lost isent very 'specific' :)
[03:40] <Dr_Willis> i had issues with a hard drive - due to an ide cable wire getting cut ona sharp edge of the case.
[03:41] <dhuv> nikkun: so I should be downloading the "Desktop CD" and not the "Alternate install CD"
[03:43] <Alter-Ego> k, it shows it is still there
[03:44] <Alter-Ego> er, if i created /home/Alter-Ego in an attempt to get a KDE Login, does that screw things up for me ?
[03:44] <nikkun> dhuv: i would advise of it since it would tell you at the least if its a problem with the install or not
[03:46] <untung> hello
[03:47] <digivore> what do i do when my kubuntu doesn't load into KDE anymore?  jsut gives me the command prompt login... ?
[03:47] <dhuv> nikkun: is there anyway I can put that iso on a usbdrive rather than burn a CD? I am out of CDs for tonight
[03:47] <untung> i am using ubuntu 6.06, does anyone know the divx player for ubuntu?
[03:47] <dhuv> :)
[03:47] <BluesKaj> !divx
[03:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:48] <nikkun> dhuv: sadly ubuntu doesnt have a way of doing that :(
[03:49] <digivore> I upgraded to edgy and now my system doesn't start in the KDE GUI login screen.. i'm really confused.  any ideas??
[03:49] <BluesKaj> dhuv, you have to change your BIOS setting to boot from the USB drive
[03:50] <BluesKaj> where does it start?
[03:51] <BluesKaj> at the bootuppage ?
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> digivore:  try 'startx' and see if any errors show up.
[03:51] <Dr_Willis> digivore:  you may need to reinstall the video card drivers
[03:52] <bLaZeD> how can i tell if my computer is using ht...isnt there a command to check?
[03:52] <bLaZeD> like cat something
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> digivore: You need to remove the reminants of xserver-xorg-driver-*
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> bLaZeD: /proc/cpuinfo (if you only have one cpu and it says 2 hyperthreading is enabled)
[03:53] <bLaZeD> ahh k thanks h3sp4wn
[03:54] <h3sp4wn> (obviously if you have 2 cpu's with hyperthreading it should show 4)
[03:55] <Zaire> how do you unzip a .zip from cli?
[03:55] <unix_infidel> Zaire: man unzip or try 7zip
[03:55] <dhuv> BluesKaj: I had to resize the windows XP partition so I installed gnomeparted on the usbdrive and it boots from there
[03:55] <Zaire> k
[03:56] <dhuv> the thing with that is that the initrd image is setup to load the usbdrivers or something
[03:56] <h3sp4wn> dhuv: You can boot the netboot kernel quite easily from a usbdrive
[03:57] <h3sp4wn> dhuv: If you install grub onto it
[03:57] <digivore> Dr_Willis: i typed 'startx' and it flashed into the gui, but then came back with some errors..
[03:57] <dhuv> nikkun: I think the problem was that it was always trying to load the ipw2100 module even though it had eth0, ipw2100 I think needs firmware to load
[03:57] <dhuv> I removed the minipci card and its working
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> h3sp4wn> digivore: You need to remove the reminants of xserver-xorg-driver-*
[03:58] <digivore> how do i do that?
[03:58] <nikkun> dhuv: ahh that makes sense
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> no clue - a always do clean reinstalls :)
[03:58] <h3sp4wn> digivore: sudo aptitude purge xserver-xorg-driver~i
[03:59] <bLaZeD> hmm well its saying i have on ecpu.....which is true..but its got ht
[03:59] <h3sp4wn> bLaZeD: run (uname -r)
[03:59] <dhuv> cool its installing, what do you guys think? should this be reported as a bug in the installer
[04:00] <bLaZeD> h3sp4wn, im running a new kernel
[04:00] <BluesKaj> dhuv, so you have an hda3 partition and a swap for linux beside the ntfs partition ?
[04:00] <bLaZeD> h3sp4wn, but i copied the settings over from the one that was installed by default
[04:00] <dhuv> I have /boot, swap, /, NTFS
[04:00] <untung> Hi I use samba server to share directory, but I can not open it with my password in other computer
[04:01] <dhuv> untung: whats the error?
[04:01] <bLaZeD> h3sp4wn, 2.6.17.10-386 was the kernl i was using untill about 2 hours ago
[04:01] <dhuv> can you access that share from any other computer
[04:01] <h3sp4wn> bLaZeD: well what was the name of the one you was running previously - if you build your own kernel you would need to compile for 686 at lease
[04:01] <Dr_Willis> untung:  sudo smbpasswd -a LINUXUSER   < -try that yet?
[04:01] <untung> dhuv: no error
[04:01] <h3sp4wn> bLaZeD: hyperthreading is a 686 specific instruction so without compiling for 686 it won't work
[04:01] <dhuv> can you get to that share from another computer?
[04:02] <untung> Dr_Willis: do i have to set password from my ubuntu?
[04:02] <bLaZeD> h3sp4wn, i looked in adept and i didnt even see a 686 in the repos
[04:02] <h3sp4wn> bLaZeD: You would have been better with the config for 2.6.17.10-generic (that supports hyperthreading)
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> untung:  a SAMBA password yes
[04:02] <untung> Dr_Willis: I can not open the directory in other computer using my ubuntu login password
[04:02] <Dr_Willis> !samba
[04:02] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[04:03] <dennister> ok, i screwed up big time :(
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> a users login password is NOT the same as their samba password
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> they can be synced  however
[04:03] <dennister> hello Dr_Willis
[04:03] <Dr_Willis> hi dennister
[04:03] <dennister> i got overconfident with that edit of xorg.conf :(
[04:03] <Zaire> k how do you unzip a .tar.gz?
[04:04] <bLaZeD> h3sp4wn, hmm i haave the generic one installed also
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> !info unp
[04:04] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[04:04] <dennister> i'm now in livecd mode as a result
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:04] <Zaire> k how do you unzip a .tar.gz?
[04:04] <cntb> say untar Zaire
[04:04] <Dr_Willis> tar xzvf  whatever , or use unp
[04:05] <dennister> and while i've mounted the / parition on the hdd, the old xorg.conf files i had are nowhere to be seen
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> linux 101
[04:05] <Zaire> Im doing this remote ssh
[04:05] <DaSkreech> How do I measure performance or tune performance in Linux?
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  not in /etc/X11 ?
[04:05] <untung> Dr_Willis: I tried the samba password and it works! Thanks!
[04:05] <Dr_Willis> :)
[04:06] <dennister> when i tried to rename them while in terminal (no x could start) i was told renaming couldn't be done in 'strict subs'
[04:06] <natex> anyone using the koffice 1.6 packages?
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> i bet its read only  untung
[04:06] <Alter-Ego> Dr_Willis: it still shows hdb3 as there
[04:06] <dennister> Dr_Willis: ?
[04:06] <bLaZeD> im gonna go reboot the the default kubuntu kernel...see if i can figure it out
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> 'strict subs'? never heard that befor
[04:07] <dennister> never? i have...file permissions or something like that...no, not perms, something stricter
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> Alter-Ego:  try to mount it manually yet? try fsck /dev/hdb3 yet?
[04:08] <dennister> how come, while i'm in livecd and cd'd to hdds /etc/X11 directory, I can't see the xorg.conf files?
[04:08] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  its int in /etc/ its in the mounted dirs etc
[04:08] <Zaire> ok whats the command to chmod a directory to 777?
[04:09] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  its not in /etc/ its in the mounted dirs etc
[04:09] <the-erm> What's the name of the program that sits in your system tray and notifies you when updates are available?  I disabled mine by accident.
[04:09] <dennister> ahh...k...let me get to the other directory on the hdd
[04:09] <BluesKaj> yeah it's adept
[04:09] <natex> dennister: like /mnt/hdd/etc/
[04:10] <dennister> that's right...was having trouble creating a /mnt/ for /
[04:11] <natex> BTW this is my first hour with Kubuntu... i'm fairly impressed
[04:11] <the-erm> thanks I guess I should have just typed in adept_<tab> to find out it's adept_notifier I need.
[04:16] <dennister> let's try again...bbs
[04:16] <DaSkreech> What can I use to measure performance or tune performance in Linux?
[04:16] <Dr_Willis> Doom3 :)
[04:19] <terry> Hi everyone - I installed gcc via adept but i get this message when configuring my app - checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables - any ias?
[04:19] <Dr_Willis> install build-essentials
[04:20] <dennister> ok...back with the unedited-wacom xorg...lol
[04:20] <terry> thanks
[04:20] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: What type of performance
[04:21] <DaSkreech> Like HDD performance
[04:21] <dennister> see what i mean? don't 'stuff up' your xorg
[04:21] <DaSkreech> For instance
[04:21] <DaSkreech>  I guess I can use nice for CPU performance
[04:21] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: use smartutils
[04:21] <nekomata> to get around the bug of kde not being able to mount external HDDs, I'm trying to mount from CLI, but then I'm stuck with a mounted drive that only root has permissions to. is there anything you can add to the mount command to let normal users then add/delete from the drive?
[04:21] <DaSkreech> alright thanks
[04:21] <dhuv> Is there anyway I can pick packages that will be installed during a kubuntu installation?
[04:22] <dhuv> for instance I only want openoffice not koffice
[04:22] <dhuv> I see thats its installing everything besides gnome :)
[04:22] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: The problem is with linux although there are benchmarks for specific server workloads there is not any generic ones that I know of (like 3dmark or whatever it is called etc for windows)
[04:22] <dennister> can different distros share combined /home, /var/ and /video partitions like they do the swap?
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> heh i never want openoffice. :)
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  shareing those can cause issues..
[04:22] <nekomata> dennister: I've always been warned against that ;o)
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  you can mount/access them however..
[04:22] <dhuv> Dr_Willis: choice is good, but how can I tell it what I want?
[04:23] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: I'm more interested in teh utning than the benchmark
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> dhuv:  dont think you can.
[04:23] <dhuv> lol
[04:23] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Well use gentoo
[04:23] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: It's simply that you have to benchmark or else you won't know whow your tuning went
[04:23] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: How does that help?
[04:23] <dennister> ewhat about the /video partition thats in xfs fs?
[04:23] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: You can tune your entire system
[04:24] <natex> dhuv: openoffice is installed by default, koffice is not
[04:24] <DaSkreech> using what tools?
[04:24] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: portage
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  you can mount/use/read/write to the,. BUT using the other disrtos /var/ is not a good idea. /home may cause issues as well.
[04:24] <DaSkreech> Suppose I want one app say a database to use the hard drive cache aggresively
[04:24] <DaSkreech>  is that possible?
[04:24] <Dr_Willis> with /home it may be userid/permission issues mainly
[04:24] <dhuv> natex: I saw packages go by that said koffice
[04:24] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: If the program can be configured in that way you can do it
[04:24] <Zaire> ok I chmodded my directories vanilla told me to change and its still not letting me install it
[04:25] <DaSkreech> ok so the only real way to tune your system is nice?
[04:25] <natex> dhuv: maybe some libs, but that happens on a debian system (extra libs) ;)
[04:25] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: You can also choose what features are in and not in every single app
[04:25] <dennister> ok...so i won't with the var, definitely, but maybe move my kubuntu /home parition to the other one?
[04:25] <K`zan> How difficult / involved is it to get the nvidia drivers installed in ubuntu?  The xorg ones leave a bit to be desired :).  TIA.
[04:25] <Dr_Willis> dennister:  what is the other disrto? you may have to chmod/chown the whole dir.
[04:25] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: If you are running a realtime kernel you can do some more funky stuff with priorities
[04:25] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Witl compile flags?
[04:26] <dennister> the other distro is kanotix
[04:26] <DaSkreech> aren't real time kernels a (tm) Bad Thing (c)?
[04:26] <dhuv> natex: OK I will check it out after the install
[04:26] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Makes desktop performance feel loads faster
[04:26] <dhuv> does kubuntu edgy come with firefox 2, or can I upgrade to 2?
[04:26] <natex> dhuv: anyways, you might like koffice
[04:27] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Some overhead though (but less than 10%)
[04:27] <dennister> oh, but Kanotix recommended reiser as the fs for /home
[04:27] <dhuv> natex: perhaps
[04:27] <h3sp4wn> dennister: reiser3 is pretty stable
[04:27] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: would it be detrimental to a server load?
[04:27] <natex> dhuv: firefox isn't installed by default, but easily added
[04:28] <nekomata> can anyone tell me please how to mount an external HDD for non-root to use?
[04:28] <dennister> the /video with xfs fs is the biggest partition...so because reiser is stable i could use that /home parition for kubuntu?
[04:28] <Hawkwind> dhuv: It comes with 2.0b2 IIRC and there is updates to 2.0 final for it already
[04:28] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: What exactly are you attempting to do ?
[04:28] <dennister> hi Hawkwind :)
[04:28] <Hawkwind> dennister: Hey there
[04:28] <DaSkreech> Find out what are myu options to twekaing performance ona Unix machine
[04:28] <dhuv> Hawkwind: awesome
[04:29] <dennister> nekomata: u edit fstab
[04:29] <dhuv> still waiting for it to finish installing
[04:29] <dhuv> after its installed, I am going to check it out and perhaps install on this T42
[04:29] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: It depends entirely on which application
[04:29] <nekomata> dennister: edit fstab every time the sdx allocations change?
[04:29] <dennister> nekomata: oops...no, it's external
[04:30] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: Things that may improve performance for one thing may make something else slower
[04:30] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Lets say a database with a service to the outside world
[04:30] <dennister> don't mind me...i was having the same issue and i finally solved it, but it was an itnernal local drive
[04:30] <Ahmuck>  /dev/hdb1               1       41613    20972826    f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
[04:30] <Ahmuck> Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary.
[04:30] <Ahmuck> is that bad ?
[04:31] <Ahmuck> Dr_Willis: is that bad ?
[04:31] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: biggest performance gains from that would be designing the database right
[04:31] <dennister> Hawkwind: i have edgy here now...and the ivtv drivers were a breeze...no errors at all! :)
[04:31] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: ha ha :)
[04:31] <Ahmuck> Dr_Willis: i was able to get back, after many errors it did come back
[04:31] <Ahmuck> but i am not sure what is going on
[04:31] <Hawkwind> terry: Please don't do that
[04:31] <dennister> so much easier to download them from repos
[04:31] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  time to BACKUP the data... I think
[04:31] <Ahmuck> ya, me too
[04:32] <Ahmuck> tomorrow evening, after i get home with a new hard drive
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> imbaking stuff to dvd rght now.. been doing it for 3 days lol
[04:32] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: It depends on how many queries you are processing a second and what they are and loads of other stuff
[04:32] <Dr_Willis> I got like 200gb of EMulator files. :)
[04:32] <Hawkwind> dennister: Kewl.  So all is running well for ya then ?
[04:32] <dennister> almost...lirc is taking longer than i thought
[04:32] <K`zan> Thanks anyhoo folks!
[04:32] <Ahmuck> actaully, that would be a good idea for my core files
[04:33] <DaSkreech> h3sp4wn: Ok is there a group I can hang out with or a web page for Performacing fir Dummies?
[04:33] <dennister> rather complicated...then i can get the myth packages and and the epg
[04:33] <DaSkreech> Any one on dapper who plays TMW?
[04:33] <dennister> but i'm still not sure the picture will be transferred from tuner to video card
[04:35] <h3sp4wn> DaSkreech: I don't know - (but gentoo has alot of ricers) only performance tuning I have done is for specific applications - and I was using a benchmark written for our application (by someone who wrote part of it)
[04:35] <Hawkwind> dennister: What TV tuner card do you have ?
[04:35] <DaSkreech> k
[04:35] <dennister> hauppauge wintv 250
[04:36] <Hawkwind> dennister: I've got Haupauge Win-TVPro or something that I had nothing but major problems trying to get it working in Mandriva a year or so ago
[04:37] <dennister> i bought this one specifically for my linux migration...it was the one line of cards that seemed the most compatible according to my resarch
[04:37] <Hawkwind> Yeah, it's got a bt88 chipset, which is the most compatible. Mine has the same which is why I bought it too
[04:37] <n8k99> is there a reason that koffice 1.6 is not availibe for ppc?
[04:37] <Hawkwind> dennister: Just getting it working in Mandriva was nothing but major headaches and battles
[04:38] <dennister> my tuner has conexant chipset...ivtv drivers instead of bttv...tuners are always difficult, even in windoze
[04:40] <seishinbyou> Does anyone have any recommendations for a decent laptop on which Kubuntu (or any Linux distro) would run well?  This LaVie isn't all that great for it
[04:44] <dhuv> during the installation of kubuntu, I was asked to create a new user account but never asked to enter a password for root, now I cannot su? Is there a default password?
[04:44] <seishinbyou> sudo su -
[04:45] <h3sp4wn> sudo > dhuv
[04:45] <dennister> use the same password as for ur username
[04:45] <h3sp4wn> use sudo -i running sudo and su is dumb
[04:45] <natex> anyone with edgy having problems with Adept?
[04:46] <dennister> i like sudo -s  ...it stays for awhile
[04:46] <h3sp4wn> sudo -s doesn't do the same thing as sudo -i or sudo su -
[04:46] <dennister> not me, although i haven't had edgy for more than 6 hrs :)
[04:47] <dennister> i bow to ur judgement h3sp4wn; i'm a noob
[04:47] <natex> adept is crashing on me, says "can't communicate with su" bleh
[04:47] <h3sp4wn> dennister: use kdesu (for graphical applications that need to be root) and sudo -i
[04:48] <dennister> what's the -i swtich mean?
[04:48] <h3sp4wn> dennister: sudo -s or sudo - can screw your permissions up on files in your home directory
[04:48] <dennister> and -i doesn't?
[04:48] <dhuv> h3sp4wn: thanks, worked well
[04:49] <h3sp4wn> dennister: -i makes it a login shell
[04:49] <h3sp4wn> dennister: run from sudo -s and sudo -i
[04:49] <h3sp4wn> dennister: echo $HOME
[04:49] <dhuv> so I just finished the kubuntu edgy installation but no sound, /proc/asound/cards shows the correct card, kmix shows master and pcm unmuted and turned up, but no sound
[04:49] <dennister> ah...i know i certainly had to do a heck of a lot of chowning back when i was transferring a huge ton of files...about 50g in mp3 files
[04:49] <dhuv> does anybody have any suggestions?
[04:49] <dennister> and movie/avi files
[04:50] <Zaire> omg vanilla forum interace sucks lol
[04:50] <untung> hi, I wanted  to intall vlc. does anyone know how?
[04:50] <untung> I cannot find the program in Synaptics
[04:50] <natex> dhuv: try alsamixer
[04:51] <dennister> ok h3sp4wn...i see what u mean
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> !info vlc
[04:51] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> In component universe,
[04:51] <Dr_Willis> !repos
[04:51] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:51] <dennister> i'll try to remember that
[04:51] <n8k99> is there a reason Koffice 1.6 is not availble for ppc?
[04:52] <n8k99> in edgy?
[04:52] <dennister> ok...back to my lirc configs...that's a huge howto
[04:52] <Akuma_> when i try to boot the ubuntu cd, i get the first options screen and choose 'boot or install'; but then the computer restarts and comes back to the same screen .. what can i do about that?
[04:52] <dennister> i'll leave the bloody wacom in xorg til later
[04:53] <natex> Akuma_: remove the CD?
[04:53] <Akuma_> natex: ... i wanna install it
[04:54] <natex> Akuma_: you let the live CD boot up first, then click the "Install" icon on the live desktop
[04:54] <BluesKaj> Akuma_, what's your pc ?
[04:54] <Akuma_> natex: i can't get to the desktop .. i can't get past the first screen, before the kernel even boots
[04:54] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: its a no name laptop
[04:54] <Sheazsche> is there a way to turn off my trackpad while i type? i keep putting my palm on it
[04:55] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: Hasee ...
[04:55] <BluesKaj> have you partitioned the HDD , Akuma_?
[04:55] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: no, not yet. i'd do that when installing
[04:56] <natex> Akuma_: what happens when you put in the kubuntu cd and reboot?
[04:57] <Akuma_> natex: it sees the cd and kicks in, then gives me the first screen (dunno how its called ...), but then whatever option i choose, it reboots and the screen is displayed again
[04:57] <dennister> is listening to Heoe/Il Divo on Amarok
[04:57] <dennister> *Heroe
[04:57] <natex> Akuma_: so the demo "live" systen never boots up? ok
[04:58] <Akuma_> natex: right
[04:58] <BluesKaj> make sure you use the tab button to see all the options
[04:58] <natex> Akuma_: check the cd (md5) first
[04:58] <Akuma_> natex: i thought the cd might have been corrupted, but its not. i tried 3 diff. ones
[04:58] <natex> oh
[04:59] <Akuma_> its like a frickin curse. every time i try to switch to linux there always something! :/
[04:59] <natex> geez
[04:59] <Akuma_> *there's
[04:59] <natex> sounds like you laptop isn't playing nice
[05:00] <Sheazsche> is there a way to turn off my trackpad while i type? i keep putting my palm on it
[05:00] <Akuma_> natex: it isnt at all.
[05:01] <seishinbyou> My laptop doesn't play nice either; it's a compromise in the end
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> Sheazsche:  theres that ksynaptic tool.
[05:01] <Akuma_> natex: whats the next step right after loading the kernel?
[05:01] <Sheazsche> do i have to apt get, or is it installed
[05:01] <seishinbyou> Hence I asked if there were any recommended laptop models earlier
[05:01] <Hawkwind> Sheazsche: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/09/20/disable-touchpad-temporarily-when-typing/
[05:01] <natex> Akuma_: the live system is uncompressed and the desktop is booted
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> !info ksynaptic
[05:01] <ubotu> Package ksynaptic does not exist in any distro I know
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> hmm what is it called...
[05:01] <natex> Akuma_: err.. probably hardware detection first
[05:01] <Dr_Willis> i saw it on my laptop
[05:02] <Akuma_> seishinbyou: you could try linux-laptop.net ..
[05:02] <Dr_Willis> it lets me turn off the touchpad on my laptop.
[05:03] <Akuma_> natex: how long would hardware detection take ?
[05:03] <natex> Akuma_: for me, less than a minute
[05:03] <Akuma_> natex: after the kernel is loaded, i get a black screen, then about 1 or 2 words flash by, then it reboots ...
[05:03] <BluesKaj> Akuma_, maybe your laptop won't handle kubuntu ...i had an old pc that did the same thing you're decribing ...the Ram was too low for one thing
[05:04] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: i've installed it many times before
[05:04] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: including 3 times in vmware last week
[05:04] <BluesKaj> kubuntu ?
[05:04] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: actually, ubuntu
[05:04] <natex> Akuma_: has kernel 2.6 given this laptop trouble?
[05:04] <Sheazsche> crap my xorg doesnt have an input device synaptics section........
[05:05] <BluesKaj> then it's prolly seeing remnant files and thinks it's already there
[05:05] <Akuma_> natex: i have no idea which kernel version is in which distro ...
[05:05] <Akuma_> natex: but i did try both 6.06 and 6.10 cds, both behave the same
[05:06] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: hmm.. interesting
[05:06] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: how do i look for that then?
[05:06] <natex> Akuma_: both use kernel 2.6, you may want to try another distro with 2.6 to see if it is a k/ubuntu problem. (I suggest zenwalk)
[05:06] <BluesKaj> reformat the HDD in ext3
[05:07] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: i have an XP install that i unfortunatly can't get rid of just yet
[05:08] <BluesKaj> I suggest a linux and swap partition before you try to load the install cd
[05:08] <Daskreech2> How do I track down what is causing a break on upgrade?
[05:08] <Dr_Willis> live cd's + a usb drive/stick are soo handy :)
[05:09] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: i usually rely on linux to do that for me ... i don't have the skills to do that without a lot of time learning first
[05:09] <BluesKaj> gparted is a good gnome partitioning program
[05:10] <BluesKaj> gparted is easy to use once you do some reading on how it works
[05:10] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: gnome? well im still in windows .. i guess maybe partition magic?
[05:11] <BluesKaj> no, Stay away from partiton magic ...it's dangerous and unstable
[05:11] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: why do i need ext3+swap partitions _before_ i install though?
[05:12] <kdean06> Does anyone have any tips for making vmplayer fit in more with KDE visually?
[05:12] <BluesKaj> kubuntu will see them and it will ask you if you want to install there instead of partitioning inside the install process
[05:12] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: i see
[05:12] <BluesKaj> it much easier and safer , Akuma_
[05:13] <mluser-home> does anyone happen to know what the correct package name for the ati fglrx drivers is called for edgy?
[05:13] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: but if like you said ubuntu doesnt want to boot because its seeing remnants, won't it still see them afterwards?
[05:14] <BluesKaj> not if you format in ext3
[05:14] <BluesKaj> it will wipe them off the drive
[05:14] <Dr_Willis> or just leave a section of the HD unallocated. and tell the installer to use it.
[05:15] <BluesKaj> mluser-home, you have the right right name , fglrx are the drivers for ATI in Edgy
[05:15] <Dr_Willis> there are gparted/qtparted live cd's that are worth tracking down and keeping in your "Box-o-pc-tools(tm)" :)
[05:15] <natex> Akuma_: there shouldn't be any "remnants" from a botched live-cd boot
[05:15] <DaSkreech> How do I track down what is causing a break on upgrade?
[05:16] <mluser-home> BluesKaj: Is that the name of the package or is it 'fglrx-kernel' or 'fglrx-driver' ?
[05:16] <BluesKaj> there may be some from previous versions of linux OS's
[05:16] <mluser-home> !fglrx
[05:16] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:16] <Akuma_> natex: what else you think it could be then?
[05:17] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: i didnt install any other linux distro then ubuntu
[05:17] <BluesKaj> hmmm
[05:17] <Akuma_> even ubuntu i didn't 'really' install
[05:17] <BluesKaj> fglrx driver
[05:18] <natex> Akuma_: some hardware (esp. laptops) aren't great with hardware detection from linux
[05:18] <natex> Akuma_: you need to try to pass some arguments to the kernel at boot
[05:18] <Akuma_> natex: so what could have happen to it? cause it used to be fine
[05:19] <Akuma_> natex: like which ones?
[05:19] <BluesKaj> then if the partitioning won't work ... it's past my level\
[05:19] <natex> Akuma_: dunno.
[05:19] <natex> Akuma_: you have used a linux live cd on this laptop before?
[05:19] <Akuma_> natex: yes.
[05:19] <natex> Akuma_: which one/version?
[05:20] <Akuma_> natex: 6.06
[05:20] <natex> Akuma_: ok it worked fine?
[05:20] <Akuma_> natex: as a live cd yes
[05:21] <BluesKaj> well, getting late here ...gonna hit the sack
[05:21] <Akuma_> BluesKaj: thanks, eh
[05:21] <natex> Akuma_: well, if you want to install kubuntu 6.10, you may need to use the upgrade path
[05:21] <Akuma_> natex: well, i can't really do that either, since i dont have a 6.06 working, nor can i install one :)
[05:22] <natex> Akuma_: you can install it no?
[05:23] <Akuma_> natex: no. i used to be able to, but since yesterday i've been having this problem, so i can't boot/install it anymore
[05:23] <Akuma_> natex: and my current os is xp
[05:24] <peanutb> dr.wills, its called knaptic but its for package managment
[05:24] <natex> Akuma_: I wonder what has changed since it worked?
[05:25] <Akuma_> natex: no idea. i've been playing with vmware ubuntu installs a lot, is what comes to mind. but i can't see how this could affect things
[05:25] <dragonfly7> What program could I use to convert .wma to .mp3?
[05:28] <natex> brb
[05:28] <dennister> dragonfly7: i use pacpl from the command line, but it's a bit diceyto configure
[05:29] <dennister> others use ffmpg as a command line tool
[05:29] <dragonfly7> yeah. I think I will give up on that. I will just burn to cd and rip.
[05:29] <dennister> that's sometimes easiest
[05:29] <Lam_> dragonfly7: if you're going to do that, do it with a cd-rw
[05:30] <atoumey> does anyone know about getting support for an nvidia graphics card working in ubuntu?  Specifically, a GeForce 7900 GTO
[05:30] <Lam_> !nvidia
[05:30] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:30] <dragonfly7> Lam_: I will, don't worry. I'm not that stupid.
[05:32] <osiris> how would i go about resizing my / partition to use the rest of my free space on a drive.  that drive also has the swap partition on it.
[05:33] <osiris> i moved /home to a seperate drive, and i want to make root fill the freed up space
[05:35] <dennister> has anyone used falcon's repo for lirc?
[05:36] <dennister> osiris: use a livecd to make sure nothing is mounted first
[05:37] <osiris> what about init1
[05:37] <dennister> i'm not too familiar with the different initlevels i'm afraid..i've jsut done it with livecd's
[05:38] <dennister> they have tools for this sort of thing...there's a howto as well
[05:38] <dennister> hold on
[05:41] <dennister> !home
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about home - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <dennister> osiris: i don't have mozilla yet, so i'm having more trouble finding the howto than u might
[05:42] <osiris> i have time
[05:42] <dennister> try searching for 'move home to it's own partition'
[05:42] <dennister> keywords like that
[05:42] <osiris> i already moved the /home on the fly.  just required a reboot
[05:42] <osiris> that parts done
[05:43] <unix_infidel> osiris: it not the "proper" way but it should work temporarily.
[05:43] <unix_infidel> osiris: you should however use dd or tar to maintain perms of your stuff enxt time.
[05:43] <osiris> i followed a hot to
[05:43] <osiris> it was a find string
[05:43] <dennister> then u should be done
[05:43] <osiris> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/
[05:44] <osiris> i am
[05:44] <Hawkwind> He wants to expand his / directory is what he asked for
[05:44] <osiris> i just need to resize the / partition to make use ofthe new freespace
[05:44] <dennister> oh shoot...sorry
[05:44] <Hawkwind> He already moved /home to the new partition and wants / to take over the old /home space
[05:44] <dennister> that's right...use a livecd and grown the partition with one of the tools
[05:44] <osiris> swap MAY be in the way
[05:44] <Hawkwind> unix_infidel: No need to use dd or tar to maintain perms when cp -a or mv will maintain perms
[05:45] <unix_infidel> Hawkwind: also true.
[05:45] <dennister> Hawkwind's a real expert osiris
[05:45] <osiris> that how-to worked quite well
[05:45] <dennister> i always feel best when Hawkwind's here helping
[05:45] <osiris> dennister, then i am in good hands
[05:45] <Hawkwind> dennister: osiris and I know each pretty well, we are in many channels together ;)
[05:45] <osiris> many many
[05:46] <dennister> oh, ok then...
[05:46] <dennister> u don't need me to sing ur praises then :)
[05:47] <dennister> Hawkwind: have u ever used any of falcon's repos?
[05:47] <dennister> coreymon77: r u having trouble with timeouts?
[05:47] <Hawkwind> dennister: Falcon's repos ?
[05:48] <dennister> yeah...his stuff is apparently coming to the more conventional repos, but that's still in the works
[05:48] <Hawkwind> dennister: Who is Falcon ?
[05:49] <dennister> he's written this howto about  lirc, and apparently the one i need to use has to be gotten from his
[05:49] <Hawkwind> dennister: Got a link ?
[05:50] <dennister> Dennis Kaarsemaker http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1/dists/edgy/all/ http://home.eng.iastate.edu/~superm1/dists/edgy/all/ that's a mirror
[05:50] <Hawkwind> dennister: That's Seveas
[05:51] <Hawkwind> dennister: Seveas is the one who runs and codes the bots here for all *Ubuntu channels
[05:51] <Hawkwind> dennister: A very trusted person and packager
[05:51] <dennister> yeah...sorry, Mario's lirc page is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Install_Lirc_Edgy#head-a1dba57858ffd46f283504b106d6d355794890bc
[05:51] <dennister> i thought that repo page looked familiar
[05:52] <dennister> i'm just not sure how to use the lirc stuff he says i have to with my tuner remote
[05:52] <dennister> heck, i don't even know the difference between lirc and lirc-x
[05:56] <dennister> i was just looking for a lirc_12c for my hauppaauge, but mari's got irc_0.8.0-9ubuntu0unofficial1_i386.deb, and a coupla others in that vein
[05:59] <atoumey> !nvidia
[05:59] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:00] <morfic> how do you patch in the kubuntu splash stuff, and what tool creates the initrd holding the splash screen?
[06:01] <seishinbyou> Hmm, is there anything to do if xev cannot detect certain keys?
[06:05] <atoumey> !nvidia
[06:05] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:05] <atoumey> sorry
[06:16] <max_> can someone help me with installing a bootsplash screen?
[06:16] <h3sp4wn> usplash or bootsplash ?
[06:17] <max_> what is the difference?
[06:17] <max_> but it is a bootsplash
[06:19] <seishinbyou> The "Kubuntu" screen at bootup or the "splash" when booting up the KDE environment?
[06:19] <h3sp4wn> max_: bootsplash uses kernel patches I think
[06:19] <max_> well its a bootsplash screen
[06:20] <max_> when i do <splash -s -f bootsplash-1024x768.cfg > /boot/initrd> i get this error <-bash: splash: command not found>
[06:23] <smacnay> I am trying to burn and boot an edgy cd with k3b.  Is there some trick?
[06:23] <smacnay> Seems my first attempt wouldn't boot.
[06:24] <max_> smacnay: any reason your burning it to a cd?
[06:28] <smacnay> I wanted to ruun a live cd.  Does kubuntu run live?
[06:28] <unix_lappy> smacnay: yes.
[06:29] <unix_lappy> but you need to get the specific live cd.
[06:29] <smacnay> hmm, then I have done something wrong in burning the iso.
[06:29] <h3sp4wn> smacnay: Its not a particularly good live cd to use though
[06:29] <smacnay> ahhh.
[06:29] <smacnay> ok
[06:29] <h3sp4wn> smacnay: If you actually want to use it for anything
[06:30] <smacnay> Is there a good live lin distro out there?  I want to be able to access a forwarded X session.
[06:31] <h3sp4wn> knoppix / kanotix (are debian based) and designed to be used as a live cd - damn small linux is very fast
[06:32] <smacnay> thanks
[06:34] <dennister> h3sp4wn: little problem...i need to run a command and konsole is saying i can't
[06:34] <h3sp4wn> dennister: what command
[06:35] <dennister> the command is: ./setup.sh /usr/local/webmin
[06:35] <dennister> error message: ./setup.sh: No such file or directory
[06:35] <h3sp4wn> don't use webmin it was removed from debian for a reason
[06:36] <dennister> really? i never had any problems with it
[06:36] <dennister> i had more problems with phpmyadmin and mysqladmin
[06:36] <Hobbsee> !vmware
[06:36] <ubotu> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[06:37] <h3sp4wn> the reason being its completely insecure and the one guy who was maintaining it stoped
[06:37] <dennister> k...good reason
[06:37] <dennister> do u have any other suggestions for a good front-end for my servers then?
[06:38] <seishinbyou> vmware is great
[06:38] <h3sp4wn> dennister: Are you giving other people access to webmin ?
[06:38] <dennister> nope
[06:39] <h3sp4wn> I don't see the need then
[06:39] <dennister> but i want to make sure the servers r configured properly b4 i go to next step of installing all the mythtv 2 stuff
[06:40] <dennister> the edgy howto doesn't cover that before mythtv is installed
[06:40] <h3sp4wn> You don't make sense why do you need mythtv on a server
[06:40] <snoopjohn> hm
[06:40] <dennister> the other way around: mythtv needs the lamp server
[06:41] <dennister> all the howtos for myth stress the elements of a lamp server for the backend
[06:41] <h3sp4wn> so just configure the lamp server manually using webmin to do it will cause all sorts of problems
[06:41] <unix_lappy> anyone know of a plugin that lets you sync all your bookmarks from one computer to another
[06:42] <unix_lappy> eg allowing you to store your xml file on a temporary pastebin and allowing you to download and import that file in firefox?
[06:42] <h3sp4wn> unix_lappy: For firefox you just export bookmarks.html
[06:42] <unix_lappy> h3sp4wn: right, but i mean automatic sync
[06:42] <dennister> or i can just blindly keep following the howto at this point...
[06:42] <dennister> thks
[06:42] <unix_lappy> like, one button you point it to a URL and it automatically download and imports
[06:43] <Arafangion> unix_lappy: There is a firefox plugin that does something, using a central internet server.
[06:43] <Arafangion> unix_lappy: I don't like it, but it could be just what you want.
[06:43] <unix_lappy> Arafangion: you have a name or a URL?
[06:43] <Arafangion> unix_lappy: Just that it's a firefox plugin :(
[06:43] <unix_lappy> Arafangion: :)
[06:43] <h3sp4wn> dennister: Seriously you are more likely to cause more problems by using webmin than blindly following
[06:44] <Arafangion> https://addons.mozilla.org/search.php?cat=22&app=firefox&appfilter=firefox&type=E
[06:44] <Arafangion> GMarks looks promising.
[06:45] <Arafangion> Also the one named del.icio.us Bookmarks (hit next a number of times to see it, result number 31, I think)
[06:50] <dennister> h3sp4wn: it's ok...i took ur advice and gave up on the webmin
[06:51] <dennister> the howto i'm meant that i'm following is the ubuntu edgy one for mythtv
[06:51] <dennister> i can usually spot someone who knows more than I :)
[06:52] <unix_lappy> Arafangion: you've used gmarks
[06:52] <unix_lappy> ?
[06:52] <Arafangion> unix_lappy: Nope, I don't even use firefox.
[06:52] <unix_lappy> Arafangion: konq?
[06:52] <Arafangion> Opera9
[06:53] <unix_lappy> Arafangion: heh, i was looking for something more like a file to file import export sort of thing
[06:53] <unix_lappy> gmarks is a lot like del.icio.us
[06:53] <Arafangion> Opera!
[06:54] <unix_lappy> :P
[06:54] <unix_lappy> thanks anyway
[06:54] <unix_lappy> is anyone here getting weird marks on their urxvt window when they man [command]  or use an ncurses program?
[06:55] <Arafangion> unix_lappy: What TERM do you have?
[06:55] <unix_lappy> rxvt-unicode
[06:55] <unix_lappy> $ echo $TERM
[06:55] <unix_lappy> rxvt-unicode
[06:55] <unix_lappy> if that's what you mean
[06:56] <Arafangion> What locale are you using?
[06:58] <unix_lappy> Arafangion: for some reason en.CA
[06:58] <unix_lappy> erm, en_CA, canadian english?
[06:59] <Arafangion> That's why :)
[06:59] <Arafangion> See if their's a unicode version you could use instea.d
[07:02] <thenatos> Hi everyone, i'm new to linux, just thought i'd say hi in the chan... i really like this disro...
[07:03] <unix_lap1y> sorry, temporary power outage.
[07:05] <Arafangion> thenatos: You'll learn to hate it, but hopefully not to the extent of any other distro or operating system ;)
[07:06] <seishinbyou> All OSs are flawed anyways; you just stick with the one that sucks the least
[07:06] <Arafangion> unix_lappy: 16:59 < Arafangion> See if their's a unicode version you could use instea.d
[07:06] <seishinbyou> for oyu
[07:06] <seishinbyou> *you
[07:06] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: you?
[07:07] <seishinbyou> I'm currently using Kubuntu Edgy; I have a WinXP partition for Visual Studio development (work)
[07:07] <Arafangion> unix_lappy: My guess is that the man pages are using some char that's in the EN_US or some other locale, but yours doesn't.
[07:08] <Arafangion> unix_lappy: My locale is: en_AU.UTF-8
[07:08] <unix_lap1y> Arafangion: thanks, i'll look into how i can change the locale
[07:08] <unix_lap1y> brb.
[07:08] <Arafangion> unix_lap1y: Be aware that the terminal has to load with those locales, so for testing, try changing the locales, then starting a new urxvt from inside that.
[07:10] <thenatos> lol, yeh, i'm no longer a big windows fan :P
[07:13] <thenatos> anyone know where i can find a good tetris game?
[07:14] <msl> thenatos: sudo apt-get install ksirtet
[07:16] <dennister> lol...been a little while...how do i get out of the mysql prompt again?
[07:16] <Arafangion> msl: "ksirtet", of _course_ that's tetris :)
[07:17] <Arafangion> thenatos: apt-cache search tetris
[07:17] <thenatos> apt-cache?
[07:17] <thenatos> sorry, i just installed kubuntu, that is all the linux experience i have.. other than some toying with gentoo on my xbox...
[07:18] <msl> k + tetris backwords, for some reason.  trademark?
[07:18] <Arafangion> msl: Point.
[07:18] <dennister> never mind...quick find...i almost had it
[07:18] <seishinbyou> thenatos: K/X/Ubuntu uses the apt system.
[07:19] <Arafangion> thenatos: You can use gui frontends, such as Synaptic, and I'm sure KUbuntu has it's own frontend, but I'm an old timer.
[07:19] <Arafangion> thenatos: I use aptitude, various apt programs, and dpkg :)
[07:19] <thenatos> ah, ok, and how would i get aptitude?
[07:19] <seishinbyou> I see Adept comes with Kubuntu
[07:20] <thenatos> i suppose google helps :)
[07:20] <seishinbyou> aptitude is already there, aren't you lucky :)
[07:21] <seishinbyou> If you are on Kubuntu, if you open up "Adept Manager" under the "System" menu
[07:21] <msl> Are there any good reasons to use edgy over dapper other than KDE-3.5.5
[07:21] <seishinbyou> you can use the search box for "tetris" and click the app name and "Request install" to install
[07:21] <seishinbyou> edgy made it possible for me to get aiglx working
[07:22] <seishinbyou> finally
[07:22] <msl> seishinbyou: did you get it working in KDE?
[07:23] <thenatos> ah, ok
[07:23] <thenatos> thanks for the help there :)
[07:23] <seishinbyou> msi> yes
[07:24] <thenatos> http://www.neave.com/games/nblox/ <--- i saw this earlier today, so i just had an urge to play
[07:27] <lish> I use gnump3d to build a stream server . but the "custom playlist" would  generate a "playlist" file without a .m3u suffix which i want
[07:28] <lish> Do anybody hack this ?
[07:28] <Arafangion> lish: What's your native language?
[07:29] <lish> Arafangion:  chinese.
[07:29] <Arafangion> lish: Cool.  Does it ask you for the filename to save as?
[07:30] <lish> Arafangion:  Yes .
[07:30] <Arafangion> lish: Does it work if you manually specify .m3u?
[07:30] <lish> Arafangion: I tested it  in IE and konqueror
[07:30] <lish> Arafangion: yes.
[07:30] <Arafangion> lish: File extensions are infact meaningless to linux, though some programs do use it.
[07:31] <draik> What do I need to get OpenGL to work properly? My screensaver is lagging
[07:31] <Arafangion> lish: It's more for the user to specify the extension that they want.
[07:31] <lish> Arafangion: The windows client would need a .m3u suffix to play it.
[07:31] <Arafangion> lish: Then just make sure it always has a .m3u suffix.
[07:32] <Arafangion> lish: It's unfortunate that in windows, file extensions _do_ mean something. :(
[07:33] <unix_infidel> Arafangion: i did dpkg-reconfigure localeconf and changed it to en_US [some iso number]  and i still am getting weird marks in my urxvt
[07:34] <lish> Arafangion: It seems that the suffix is a little useful in Linux now. My amarok wont import the "playlist" file.
[07:34] <Arafangion> unix_infidel: Did you choose the UTF8 version?
[07:34] <unix_infidel> Arafangion: nope, something with an iso number after it.
[07:34] <Arafangion> lish: As I said, some programs take it on themselves to only use some extensions.
[07:34] <unix_infidel> Arafangion: do i have to log out and back in, in order for it to take effect?
[07:34] <Arafangion> unix_infidel: Use the UTF8 version.
[07:35] <Arafangion> unix_infidel: In practice, yes. :(
[07:35] <msl> draik: do you have hardware accelerated drivers
[07:37] <ishah> hello
[07:37] <ishah> is any one alive hare?????????????????????????????
[07:37] <Lam_> anyone else notice that when you "Create New..." say.. text document in kubuntu, it creates a new empty KOffice text document, despite the fact that KOffice isn't installed by default?
[07:37] <lish> Arafangion: I want the server give a playlist with the suffix.  That depends on Playlist.pm mod, so i think we can hack the mod ?
[07:37] <Arafangion> lish: You could, sure, if you know Perl.
[07:38] <Arafangion> lish: If you're using apache, you might even be able to hack mod_rewrite
[07:38] <Arafangion> lish: However, both of these are beyond the scope of #kubuntu :(
[07:38] <lish> Arafangion: I come here for my os is kubuntu while no #gnump3d channel . sorry :)
[07:40] <Arafangion> lish: You could also try finding their mailing list.
[07:41] <Arafangion> lish: When the subject becomes highly specific, email tends to be better.
[07:42] <lish> Arafangion:  I did that . NO proper reply ,but the similar Question
[07:42] <Arafangion> lish: Unfortunate :(
[07:43] <Arafangion> Lam_: It probably just copies a sample template.
[07:43] <lish> Arafangion: PS ,Is it errors in my words that you ask my native language ?  Could you point those for me ?
[07:44] <seishinbyou> "Do anybody hack this ?" was a giveaway for me
[07:44] <Arafangion> lish: Just a subtle problem with your grammar, I can't quite work it out.
[07:44] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: And that one was not quite so subtle ;)
[07:45] <Arafangion> lish: Plus, your use of the term "hack" was too "correct"
[07:45] <unix_infidel> Arafangion: still no go, changed it to en_US.UTF-8
[07:45] <unix_infidel> also did a .bashrc export to LANGUAGE=en_US:en
[07:45] <unix_infidel> hence why all the quit messages :P
[07:45] <Arafangion> unix_infidel: I'm out of suggestions :(
[07:45] <Arafangion> unix_infidel: Heh :)
[07:46] <Arafangion> lish: I think you might be confusing the word forms.
[07:46] <unix_infidel> Arafangion: thanks a lot for your help though.
[07:46] <unix_infidel> midnight snack time :)
[07:46] <lish> thanks you all
[07:47] <Arafangion> lish: For example, "Is it errors in my words that you ask my native lnaguage?" should probably be better written as: "Are there errors in my words? Why did you ask my native language?"
[07:47] <seishinbyou> Arafangion: moreso transitive vs. intransitive
[07:47] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: Now, *that's* over my head!
[07:47] <lish> Arafangion:  lol . you are cute
[07:48] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: After reading the dictionary definition, I _still_ don't know what transitive means!
[07:49] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: Does it correspond to being "very concrete"?
[07:49] <draik> msl: How do I check for hardware accelerators? I am on a fresh install of Edgy
[07:49] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: Heh, the Japanese have a hard time with our language :)
[07:49] <seishinbyou> Moreso direct vs indirect action
[07:49] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: I've had two japanese people ask what does "stuff" mean?
[07:49] <seishinbyou> What is you doing?  I have being smoking for 8 years.
[07:50] <seishinbyou> It's all stuff forcefed by the education system and NOVA
[07:50] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: They actually enforce the mauled version?
[07:50] <msl> draik: Open a konsole and type     glxinfo | grep -i rendering
[07:51] <seishinbyou> No, the problem is that they aren't taught English in a conversational sense; only to pass the University entrance exams
[07:51] <seishinbyou> lots of remember, copy&paste
[07:51] <seishinbyou> You get great mixups like "It's sunny o'clock"
[07:51] <draik> msl: what am I looking for?
[07:52] <seishinbyou> "Direct Rendering : Yes"
[07:52] <msl> if it says yes you have hardware acceleration, otherwise you currently have none
[07:52] <draik> I get errors
[07:52] <draik> sorry...
[07:52] <draik> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[07:52] <draik> Xlib: No protocol specified
[07:52] <draik> Error: unable to open display (null)
[07:52] <draik> That's what I get
[07:52] <seishinbyou> msi: I'm being optimistic
[07:53] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: I have heard of native english speakers having to have their english "corrected" in the Japanese education system.
[07:53] <draik> so how do I get hw acceleration?
[07:53] <msl> draik: do it as your user instead of root
[07:53] <seishinbyou> Arafangion: Yep, I have had it happen to me a few times.  "When did you start reading a novel?"
[07:54] <seishinbyou> Instead of "When did you start reading novels?"
[07:54] <msl> root does not have X11 running and thus cannot get the information
[07:54] <draik> Ok, says this...
[07:54] <draik> direct rendering: No
[07:54] <draik> How do I get it?
[07:54] <msl> you need to get vdeo card drivers
[07:54] <msl> video*
[07:54] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: What I find is most funny is when they correct the pronounciation.
[07:54] <draik> so I change my nv driver for nvidia?
[07:54] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: Come on! Native English Speaker here!
[07:55] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: "Tomato", which actually has a number of different ways of saying it, is a common culprit.
[07:55] <msl> draik: I think most have had good experiences with the binary drivers from nvidia
[07:55] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: What's the rationale for putting the 'a' into that question?
[07:56] <seishinbyou> Arafangion: "A Japanese likes fish" vs. "Japanese like fish" <- Both the same meaning  (is their logic)
[07:56] <draik> msl: so leave it as nv?
[07:56] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: But it doesn't.
[07:56] <jarn> Edgy is no longer a beta, correct? It is now the "stable" version?
[07:56] <draik> msl: or do I pick the generic nVidia GeForce FX?
[07:56] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: "a" has specific meaning.
[07:57] <msl> draik: I would follow the steps to get the binary drivers from nvidia at http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[07:57] <jarn> When I change my sources to edgy ones and do apt-get update, a few do not work. I got a 404 on one.
[07:58] <jarn> 2, in fact.
[07:58] <msl> I have never used nv myself
[07:58] <seishinbyou> Arafangion: "a" (according to their texts) means "one of a sample".  One of a sample in my example is the equivalent of a generalization of something using a sample of it
[07:59] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: So how would the japanese feel if I wrote: "A japanese hates fish"
[07:59] <seishinbyou> Arafangion: They would think it correct
[07:59] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: (Though, strictly, that should be "A japanese person hates fish")
[07:59] <unix_infidel> what's the smallest size i could get away with for an ubuntu test server?
[07:59] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: How can the japanese both love and hate fish?
[07:59] <unix_infidel> vmware that is.
[08:00] <unix_infidel> mercury and sushi goodness at the same time.
[08:00] <unix_infidel> sounds like a love hate relationship
[08:00] <seishinbyou> unix_infidel: A fresh install with everything can fit under 2 gigs
[08:00] <unix_infidel> seishinbyou: so 3 gigs is a fair estimate?
[08:00] <seishinbyou> Arafangion: I was thinking exclusionary in terms of your example
[08:00] <seishinbyou> unix_infidel: Yeah, that should be fine
[08:01] <draik> How do I restart X?
[08:01] <lish> seishinbyou means "a horse have four legs " equals " Horse has four legs "
[08:01] <seishinbyou> list: not exactly
[08:01] <Arafangion> lish: What about dogs?
[08:01] <seishinbyou> In the case of a nationality, someone is "Japanese" "Canadian" "American", etc.
[08:01] <lish> seishinbyou:  ... :)
[08:01] <unix_infidel> seishinbyou: trying to decide b/w ubuntu and centos as a test setup
[08:01] <dennister> has anyone here got ubuntu server, edgy i386?
[08:01] <Arafangion> lish: "a dog has 3 legs".
[08:02] <msl> draik: /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[08:02] <Arafangion> lish: And that's correct :)
[08:02] <lish> Arafangion: your dog is special
[08:02] <seishinbyou> The problem with "a" is now that people here think "I am Japanese citizen" is correct
[08:02] <Arafangion> lish: Perhaps.
[08:02] <msl> or ctrl-alt-backspace
[08:03] <Arafangion> lish: But if I say "dog have 3 legs", I'm NOT correct, because that's quite different. (Poor grammar too)
[08:04] <Arafangion> lish: As "dog" and "horse" have a plural form - Japanese just happens to be able to be used in both singular and plural forms.
[08:04] <lish> Arafangion: i get it
[08:05] <Arafangion> lish: Anyway, if you see "a horse has 4 legs", think of it "There exists some horse that has 4 legs".
[08:05] <Arafangion> lish: But if you say "hoses have 4 legs", you are instead saying "As a general rule, all horses have 4 legs".
[08:06] <seishinbyou> All horses have 4 legs, but not all 4-legged creatures are horses
[08:06] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: I would've thought that was completely irrelevant to this discussion! :)
[08:06] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: Do they mix that up as well?
[08:08] <seishinbyou> Arafangion: No, but I like to throw random logic in their faces once in a while
[08:08] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: Why?
[08:08] <seishinbyou> It helps keep me sane
[08:08] <seishinbyou> Which is to say, I am pretty much insane right now
[08:09] <Arafangion> lish: By the way, do you know what the word "stuff" means?
[08:09] <Arafangion> lish: Because it seems that many Japanese don't.
[08:09] <draik> msl: Ok, I restarted X, but don't see any of my OpenGL screensavers
[08:09] <lish> Arafangion:  stuff ,means "things"
[08:10] <lish> Arafangion:  :)
[08:10] <msl> Does   glxinfo | grep -i rendering  now say that you have direct rendering?
[08:10] <Arafangion> lish: Ok, you know more than the japanese I've met about English, in my book :)
[08:11] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: Come to think of it, wouldn't saying things suck as "in my book" confuse them?
[08:12] <seishinbyou> Arafangion: No, but if you asked them to make that sentence, there is a good chance they would have said "on my book"
[08:13] <lish> Arafangion: "in my book"  means " in my opinion" ? ...
[08:13] <Arafangion> lish: That's remarkably close. :)
[08:13] <Arafangion> lish: To be honest, I was wondering how I would explain what it meant :)
[08:14] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: I would imagine that they have less problems with the word "the"?
[08:17] <seishinbyou> Arafangion: debatable...they are more likely to exclude it than misuse it
[08:18] <Arafangion> seishinbyou: That'd make it worse.
[08:37] <willy> sabra alguien que tengo que poner para actualizar mi jvm 1.4 a 1.5 de kubuntu
[08:38] <draik> willy !sp
[08:38] <draik> errr.
[08:38] <draik> !sp | willy
[08:38] <ubotu> sp: James Clark's SGML parsing tools. In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.4-1.2.1-47 (edgy), package size 158 kB, installed size 564 kB
[08:38] <draik> !es
[08:38] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:38] <draik> !es | willy
[08:38] <ubotu> willy: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:40] <willy> pero eso que lo pongo en consola o como le hago
[08:40] <willy> soy nuevo en kubuntu
[08:40] <willy> necesito hacer un monton de cosas que hago en windows pero esa basura se me arruino
[08:40] <willy> entonces mi solucion a todo kubuntu
[08:40] <willy> ejeje
[08:41] <willy> alguien sabe como hacer para compilar Jlex y Cup
[08:43] <willy> alguien sabe algo de como actualizar mi jvm de kubuntu
[08:44] <willy> ayuda porfa
[08:50] <morphius> Using 6.06: I have a script that I am running using cron. When it runs as cron, it will not work properly. If run from command prompt, however, it works fine. The script: Checks to see if the computer can ping google. Next, it checks to see if the IP address has changed. If it has it updates my wireless router using a perl web scraping script and changes the dmz. Any ideas?
[08:53] <msl> morphius: I'm not sure where to start, but I do remember that cron does not source your environment and can cause the condition you are describing
[08:58] <dumbkiwi> morphius: cron runs as root, so if the command you are using in your script, or the script itself is not in root's path, then it won't run properly.  Try using the complete path to the script, and the commands in the script.
[08:59] <morphius> they are all using the complete path.
[09:13] <aldwin> #edubuntu
[09:25] <dennister> i can't believe this mythtv is almost fiished :)
[09:25] <dennister> anyone awake to hear my good news?
[09:26] <nino> sup
[09:26] <dennister> nino :)
[09:27] <nino> hey
[09:27] <dennister> one of my favourite names, after one of my fav authors
[09:27] <nino> nino?
[09:27] <dennister> yep...as in nino ricci
[09:27] <nino> cool
[09:27] <dennister> ever heard of him?
[09:28] <dennister> u probably don't read modern literature...'tis ok
[09:28] <nino> nope i have not
[09:28] <dennister> I need someone to crow to!
[09:29] <nino> go for it
[09:29] <dennister> i have this mythtv almost setup! yahoo!!!
[09:29] <dennister> i've only been struggling for about 3 months, too...lol
[09:29] <nino> i've played around with it, do you need a decoder??
[09:30] <nino> for it to work?
[09:30] <dennister> not that i know of...although it needs so many packages there are decoders within them
[09:30] <dennister> and i have a hardware decoder as part of my tuner
[09:30] <nino> no i mean satilite decoder?
[09:30] <dennister> no, u don't need satellite at all
[09:30] <nino> online?
[09:30] <dennister> i live in a basement apartment that i rent...cable setop box
[09:31] <nino> so it should work on a normal tv card asswell?
[09:31] <dennister> yes...most 'normal tv cards' have hardware decoders
[09:31] <dennister> just do ur research on em for linux
[09:32] <nino> cool, i should try it again, i gave up on it a month ago
[09:32] <dennister> absolutely NOTHING worked for me except this ubuntu server (for the lamp) on edgy i386 arch
[09:33] <thyko> does kubuntu have a text only runlevel?
[09:33] <dennister> i was warned off the edgy cause it's still so new, but it installed the ivtv drivers i needed to get my tuner working from the repos
[09:33] <nino> i had the 64 bit kubuntu installed at home, tried to run it on that
[09:33] <nino> cool
[09:33] <dennister> yes it does thyko
[09:34] <dennister> don't bother with 64 bit
[09:34] <dennister> it doesn't work...that's what i was struggling with for most of these 3 months
[09:34] <dennister> and i have hardware capable of running vista
[09:34] <thyko> dennister: which one?
[09:34] <thyko> its not 2 for sure
[09:34] <nino> yea i scrapped it to have a look at windows vista on that partition, and guess what? Windows still suck
[09:35] <slothbag1> anyone know how to get setterm -powersave working in edgy?
[09:35] <dennister> yes it does nino...i think it'll be worse than xp with all its paranoia about piracy
[09:35] <dennister> thyko...i'm not sure
[09:35] <dennister> slothbag1: no, sorry
[09:35] <nino> its gonna be complicated for normal home users!!
[09:36] <thyko> im using it on a server and dont need X mostly
[09:36] <dennister> i actually have a small problem: i've got my backend all configured, as well as my frontend. but they can't hookup
[09:37] <dennister> the error message is: Session management error: Could not open network socket
[09:37] <nino> damn i havent a clue
[09:38] <dennister> ok...i'll google it, since most of the really knowledgeable ops don't seem to be present at the moment
[09:38] <nino> lol yea srry
[09:39] <dennister> 'tis ok...myth is supposedly not for newbies, and lots of the most knowledgeable ops don't know myth either
[09:39] <nino> just keep on grinding at it!!!!
[09:40] <aftertaf> anyone having fun with compiz and nvidia? I get it working everytime, then when i reboot, back to console :)
[09:43] <SuperLag> Any of you guys use Kile on your Kubuntu installs?
[09:43] <aftertaf> kile?
[09:43] <aftertaf> wazzat?
[09:44] <thyko> its runlevel 3
[09:44] <SuperLag> Front end for LaTeX
[09:45] <momal> !nvidiabeta
[09:45] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) Beta version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm" (for x86) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[09:46] <aftertaf> but that link doesnt work with the latest generic kernel
[09:46] <aftertaf> i had to install nvidia installer....
[09:48] <sudharsh> !kde
[09:48] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[09:48] <sudharsh> !amarok1.4.4
[09:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about amarok1.4.4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:48] <sudharsh> !kde-latest
[09:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kde-latest - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:49] <aftertaf> 1.4.4 ?   tries amarok-latest repos?
[09:51] <sudharsh> aftertaf: yeah...strangely not getting them
[09:52] <sudharsh> btw is it ok to add the dapper kde latest packages in edgy..
[09:53] <aftertaf> sudharsh: i should think so, but that is not a techically fuelled answer ... ;)
[09:54] <sudharsh> aftertaf: hmm...ok...its just strange that i am not getting updates even after countless apt-get update for the last two weeks
[09:55] <aftertaf> http://www.kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-144/
[09:55] <aftertaf> atest has 1.4.3
[09:55] <aftertaf> latest
[09:55] <sudharsh> aftertaf: oh..
[09:56] <visik7> anyone running vmware-workstation on edgy ?
[10:01] <seishinbyou> visik7: I am
[10:03] <mgamon> hello
[10:03] <aftertaf> :)
[10:03] <mgamon> tell me what day it is
[10:03] <mgamon> please
[10:03] <aftertaf> monday
[10:04] <mgamon> what am i connected to
[10:04] <aftertaf> 6 nov 2006
[10:04] <aftertaf> kubuntu forum on irc freenode
[10:04] <aftertaf> lol
[10:04] <mgamon> ahh
[10:04] <mgamon> are you an expierenced kubuntu user
[10:05] <mgamon> im very new to it and maybe you can help me aftertaf
[10:05] <aftertaf> sort of
[10:05] <aftertaf> ask away :)
[10:05] <mgamon> well this might be a toughy not sure
[10:06] <mgamon> how do i change my keyboard style, i.e. french vs US english
[10:06] <mgamon> it was chosen when i installed the program
[10:06] <mgamon> err when i installed the whole OS
[10:06] <aftertaf> you want it all in french, c'est ca?
[10:06] <mgamon> hah not so much
[10:06] <cpk1> mgamon: in system settings go to regional and accessability
[10:06] <mgamon> i chose canadian and its sorta messed up some keys
[10:07] <aftertaf> just the kb?
[10:07] <mgamon> i didnt know there was canadian keyboards different than this us keyboard im using
[10:07] <aftertaf> cpk1 has it right
[10:07] <mgamon> whats that
[10:07] <cpk1> accessibiility*
[10:07] <mgamon> ahhhhh
[10:07] <cpk1> mgamon: go to the kmenu, go to system settings, and then choose regional and accessibility
[10:08] <mgamon> okay great ! its fixed
[10:08] <aftertaf> great :)
[10:08] <scheuri> but that is KDE only then...if you switch to CLI it stays UK Keyboard, rght?
[10:08] <mgamon> one small step at a time
[10:09] <aftertaf> mgamon: you want it in us english your keyboard?
[10:09] <mgamon> okay so did Kubuntu come with a firefox browser?
[10:09] <Zaire> is there an open bsd channel?
[10:09] <mgamon> yea it has been switched to us english successfully thanks
[10:09] <cpk1> no, use apt-get to install it (or adept if you want)
[10:09] <aftertaf> mgamon: you can install it easily..... ^^
[10:09] <momal> garrrr.... vmware under edgy anyone used it fine ?
[10:09] <mgamon> okay so adept is a program i have?
[10:09] <aftertaf> mgamon: open Adept and type 'firefox' in the textbox.
[10:10] <aftertaf> !adept
[10:10] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[10:10] <mgamon> okay
[10:10] <Zaire> I may be swapping my server to open bsd so I was wondering if anyone knew of a channel for it
[10:10] <aftertaf> mgamon: here to install things we use packages.....
[10:10] <mgamon> okay
[10:10] <visik7> seishinbyou: do you have mouse slowliness on linux guests ?
[10:10] <scheuri> Zaire: try #openbsd
[10:10] <aftertaf> adept is a package manager.... Sort of like Add/remove programs but connected to a list of available programs for free (17000+)
[10:10] <Zaire> ah thanks lol
[10:11] <mgamon> cool install manager!
[10:11] <scheuri> Zaire: welcome
[10:11] <mgamon> is there a way i can use my msn messanger account from kubuntu
[10:11] <aftertaf> mgamon: yes, kopete :)
[10:11] <visik7> mgamon: with kopete
[10:11] <aftertaf> open kopete and setup your msn.
[10:12] <aftertaf> mgamon: welcome to linux....... if you haev any questions, you can ask here :)
[10:12] <mgamon> thank you very much
[10:12] <scheuri> there is kopete, amsn, gaim whatevery ou want
[10:12] <mgamon> i just sort of stumbled upon this application and im glad
[10:12] <aftertaf> kubuntu?
[10:12] <scheuri> amsn even has cam support
[10:12] <aftertaf> good stumble :)
[10:12] <mgamon> uhhh no i mean konversation
[10:13] <aftertaf> scheuri: really? great :)
[10:13] <scheuri> aftertaf: afaik yes...but well, you need to have your webcam configured...;)
[10:13] <aftertaf> mgamon: hehe!!! its pre installed and setup to help new users get help
[10:13] <scheuri> !pastbin
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pastbin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <mgamon> kubuntu rocks!
[10:13] <scheuri> uh?
[10:13] <momal> !pastebin
[10:13] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[10:13] <mgamon> im quite impressed so far
[10:13] <scheuri> thanks...;)
[10:14] <scheuri> its monday morning...;)
[10:15] <momal> http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/241544 <-- garhhh can someone help me? trying to get vmware-player... im running edgy.
[10:19] <aftertaf> mgamon: :)
[10:19] <mgamon> heeyyyaa aftertaf how do you change the resolution
[10:20] <aftertaf> mgamon: and you can do everything you used to do in wiondows, with k/ubuntu
[10:20] <mgamon> yea it seems so
[10:20] <aftertaf> mgamon: what gfx card do you haev?
[10:20] <mgamon> even games?
[10:20] <mgamon> well this computer with kubuntu installed im only using the onboard
[10:20] <aftertaf> mgamon: games, ahh thats the only tough area :)
[10:20] <mgamon> my windows system i have a geforce 6800 xt
[10:20] <mgamon> well im covered i guess i have 2 systems side by side
[10:21] <mgamon> im sort of trying to get a foot hold in linux and networking because im going to start networking courses soon
[10:21] <aftertaf> mgamon: ok. you can install the nvidia driver for linux and reboot to kubuntu
[10:21] <aftertaf> good choice
[10:21] <mgamon> should i do that for onboard graphics?
[10:21] <Zaire> hmmm anyone in here familiar with the security rating of Solaris 10?
[10:22] <mgamon> ahhh and do i need any added security or is kubuntu completely secure as is
[10:22] <aftertaf> secure as is.... opposite to win
[10:22] <Zaire> I have to ask as Im looking to try out diff OS's for server usage to best determine the most secure and functional
[10:23] <aftertaf> mgamon: in adept, can you see a package called linux-restricted-modules... ?
[10:24] <mgamon> aftertaf: ill check
[10:24] <Zaire> I couldn't believe my friends athlon64 3500 clawhammer couldn't handle compiling solaris lol
[10:24] <lk11mn> can i ask someone a question, real quick RE installing ubuntu onto an existing raid array?
[10:25] <aftertaf> lk11mn: alternate install cd i guess
[10:25] <mgamon> yea there are several linux-restricted packages
[10:25] <mgamon> i got some installed and some not
[10:26] <aftertaf> mgamon: ok.... which one is installed?
[10:26] <lk11mn> i've tried the alternate install cd :/
[10:26] <aftertaf> 2.6.17-10-generic?
[10:26] <aftertaf> lk11mn: argh no idea then. but aska way someone may know
[10:26] <lk11mn> it seems to pick up the SATA raid controllers, but in individual disks, not the raid arrays
[10:27] <aftertaf> delete and recreate?
[10:27] <lk11mn> uhhh, i dont wanna do that!! it'd prob work i guess, but theres no way of showing ubuntu an existing array?
[10:27] <mgamon> i should install that 2.6.17-10-generic then?
[10:28] <mgamon> errr wait its already installed
[10:28] <aftertaf> mgamon: if it isnt installed, yeah.... if the linux-image you have installed is the 17-10-generic....
[10:28] <aftertaf> mgamon:  :) ok.
[10:28] <aftertaf> !nvidia
[10:28] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:28] <aftertaf> mgamon: follow that howto in that case :)
[10:29] <lk11mn> hmm, well while im here i might as well ask the other questions on my mind... xgl can be installed on ubuntu, right?
[10:29] <mgamon> okay
[10:29] <aftertaf> mgamon: install nvidia-glx package
[10:29] <momal> http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/241544 <-- garhhh can someone help me? trying to get vmware-player... im running edgy.
[10:29] <aftertaf> the howto is for gnome ubuntu users ..... :) synaptic is equivalent to adept
[10:30] <mgamon> i requested the install in adept for nvidia-glx
[10:31] <mgamon> aftertaf i dont need any security?
[10:31] <aftertaf> click Apply, to install the nvidia-glx package, then you need to open a teminal
[10:31] <lk11mn> oh and can i rotate my screen 180o, i use an upside down tft :(
[10:31] <aftertaf> mgamon: all ports are closed by default, only opened when your PC initiates a request via internet.... you are protected and there are no virus(es) on linux
[10:32] <mgamon> can i make a network between my kubuntu computer and my windows computer?
[10:32] <aftertaf> mgamon: yes... samba :) do that after :)
[10:32] <mgamon> thats so wonderful, no viruses! its like heaven
[10:32] <aftertaf> the pc you are using has the nvidia card, right ? ;)
[10:32] <mgamon> would you rate the networking part as difficult or not so much
[10:32] <mgamon> and this computer im using right now is only onboard graphics with no video card installed
[10:32] <aftertaf> depends... but its doable for humans :)
[10:33] <lk11mn> oh yeh, and can i control my windows computer with remote desktop protocol?
[10:33] <aftertaf> mgamon: ok. your other PC has nvidia and kubuntu?
[10:33] <aftertaf> lk11mn: yep :)
[10:33] <mgamon> no my other pc has nvidia and windows xp home
[10:33] <mgamon> and a ton of games and applications =)
[10:33] <aftertaf> mgamon: ok. So are you sure you want to install nvidia on this computer?
[10:33] <aftertaf> im confused :)
[10:33] <lk11mn> lol yep to rdp?screen rotation?xgl? aftertaf
[10:34] <aftertaf> lk11mn: rdp
[10:34] <mgamon> maybe no nvidia then i dont think the onboard will like that
[10:34] <aftertaf> lk11mn: rotation, think so but never tried..... xgl..... well i'm using compiz now with a sexy cube
[10:35] <aftertaf> mgamon: yeah exact..... nvidia for the machine with windows, if you install linux on it too :)
[10:35] <lk11mn> ok cool thx, does compiz have that cool wobbley window effect when you move stuff about :) ? ?
[10:35] <aftertaf> lk11mn: but compiz etc is confusing still.......    yes is does :)
[10:35] <aftertaf> it
[10:35] <lk11mn> lol sweet, that's all i want!!
[10:35] <aftertaf> i cant explain how i got it all working though
[10:36] <mgamon> linux runs so fats compared to windows
[10:36] <aftertaf> though this site and the packages helped: http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-edgy/
[10:36] <mgamon> anything i wanted to do on this computer with windows would take forever
[10:36] <lk11mn> right well that's cool, if it's doable i'll figure it out... i guess until the raid situation is solved i can just borrow an ide hard disk from work to get me out
[10:36] <aftertaf> mgamon: lots less bloat :)
[10:36] <mgamon> fast***
[10:37] <thyko> i want to boot to the console. How do i turn off X all together?
[10:37] <mgamon> less is more!
[10:37] <thyko> no GUI atall
[10:37] <thyko> how?
[10:37] <aftertaf> lk11mn: meant to add your name  to that post http://gandalfn.wordpress.com/howto/howto-compiz-aiglx-on-edgy/
[10:37] <aftertaf> thyko: for good?
[10:37] <thyko> yeah
[10:37] <aftertaf> thyko: or to have the choice at boot?
[10:37] <aftertaf> thyko: remove your kde packages and xserver too :)
[10:38] <lk11mn> k its in my bookmark (on windows, but still) thx aftertaf
[10:38] <thyko> err .. what if i wanna have the choice?
[10:38] <aftertaf> thyko: remove kdm from startup in /etc/init.d
[10:39] <thyko> chmod 000 /etc/init.d/kdm
[10:39] <thyko> testing ...
[10:39] <aftertaf> update-rc.d
[10:39] <aftertaf> better
[10:41] <dennister> how do u edit a file in a hidden directory again? it's in my home folder: /.mythtv
[10:41] <aftertaf> vim .mythtv/filename
[10:42] <dennister> i'm not familiar with vim
[10:42] <dennister> i typically use kwrite or nano
[10:43] <lish> s/vim/kwrite
[10:43] <dennister> but there are some options rn't there? like nano -rtf dir/filename?
[10:43] <thyko> aftertaf: :-D Thanks
[10:45] <dennister> it keeps telling me the document can't be saved
[10:45] <mgamon> hey aftertaf
[10:45] <mgamon> thanks so much for all your help tonight, small steps but im already miles ahead
[10:46] <lish> dennister:chmod +w file.name
[10:47] <dennister> oh shoot...forgot about thaat
[10:47] <aftertaf> mgamon:  a pleasure :)
[10:48] <kamui> is there any way to get knetworkmanager to remember my default wifi settings?   I have a hidden  ssid with wep 128 encryption that I don't like retyping every time I restart my laptop
[10:49] <kamui> Id like to have it attempt to connect to networks i've configured automatically in a specific order
[10:49] <aftertaf> c u all :)
[10:50] <h3sp4wn> kamui: I know how to do that with wpasupplicant directly (wep + hidden ssid would still be trivial for anyone attempting to crack)
[10:51] <kamui> h3sp4wn: I understand that, my oldschool M$ router doesn't support wpa, so I can only do what will keep the p2p clowns in my apt complex off my network
[10:52] <h3sp4wn> kamui: Which microsoft router ? (there is one which can run openwrt - with wpa etc)
[10:52] <kamui> h3sp4wn: also ndiswrapper with my bcm43xx apparently doesn't support wpa supplicant
[10:53] <h3sp4wn> kamui: Should do (I would be very suprised it it did not)
[10:54] <h3sp4wn> kamui: ndiswrapper is a driver type for wpasupplicant
[10:55] <kamui> h3sp4wn: Im just going by the ubuntu 43xx howto.  oddly enough, when I was half in edgy, the native driver + stripped firmware worked.  In dapper, i can't get a network connection using anything but ndiswrapper
[10:58] <kamui> h3sp4wn: well my firmware is 3 years old, but leave it to microsoft to make teh update a windows executable
[10:59] <dennister> i'm gonna try a reboot...maybe all the network changes i've made will also fix the network socket problem...bbs
[11:00] <h3sp4wn> kamui: If its an MN-700 or NM-700 (or something similar) you can install linux onto it with full wpa functionality etc
[11:00] <charlie5> should 'noauto' be set in fstab for the mian '/' partition ?
[11:01] <kamui> im gonna go check right now
[11:01] <h3sp4wn> kamui: (Its just a standard broadcom reference design that microsoft router)
[11:01] <cpk1>  /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1 thats what my root looks like
[11:02] <thyko> I just edited /etc/resolv.conf manually and the server will not pick up the DNS servers i put there
[11:02] <kamui> h3sp4wn: its an mn-500
[11:02] <thyko> why?
[11:02] <cpk1> my cdrom is using noauto...
[11:02] <h3sp4wn> kamui: No idea about that particular model (the only one I know is mn-700)
[11:03] <kamui> h3sp4wn: well Illl look it up
[11:04] <thyko> it works when i configure the network from the GUI, but not from the console :(
[11:04] <kamui> well I may just buy a new linksys router, they're pretty cheap with good functionality these days
[11:04] <charlie5> cpk1: thanks
[11:05] <cpk1> blah linksys?
[11:06] <h3sp4wn> kamui: Asus make pretty good routers for the money
[11:06] <cpk1> my linksys has given me nothing but trouble
[11:06] <charlie5> anyone know what these in fstab are for ...    UUID=a8f244
[11:10] <h3sp4wn> charlie5: man fstab explains it (You can use LABEL= instead
[11:12] <charlie5> h3sp4wn: thanks, i'll read through it
[11:14] <h3sp4wn> charlie5: UUID= is easier for a machine LABEL= is easier for a human (if you insist on not using the old device names - they still work)
[11:16] <charlie5> h3sp4wn: again thank you ... i seem to have 2 lines for my '/' entry ... and so i cannot boot
[11:16] <kamui> h3sp4wn: Im trying the edgy upgrade again.  I figure if Ill use the console this time instead of the gui that didn't work properly.
[11:17] <kamui> h3sp4wn: I changed all my dapper refs in sources.list to edgy (eg edgy-backports...) and did a successful apt-get update.  now dist-upgrading...
[11:17] <kamui> hope this works
[11:18] <kamui> if (edgy upgrade.works) {I will be happy} else {time to download edgy iso and install from scratch}
[11:18] <h3sp4wn> kamui: after it finishes do (sudo aptitude purge xserver-xorg-driver~i) you will need that because of noone doing transitional packages right
[11:19] <kamui> h3sp4wn: ok
[11:19] <charlie5> does this look a reasonable fstab line for my root partition ...
[11:20] <charlie5> "/dev/sda1 / auto nouser,noauto,atime,auto,rw,nodev,noexec,nosuid 0 0"
[11:20] <h3sp4wn> charlie5: why do you want noexec on / ?
[11:21] <charlie5> h3sp4wn: i don't fully understand the options ... i was trying to mount some paritions with system settings and got myeself all messed up
[11:21] <charlie5> h3sp4wn: thanks i will remove noexec
[11:21] <h3sp4wn> charlie5: noexec means you cannot execute programs on that partition
[11:22] <h3sp4wn> charlie5: nosuid would mean the only way to start x would be as root
[11:22] <charlie5> h3sp4wn: that would explain the wierd permission probs i was getting
[11:22] <marius_> #yade
[11:22] <h3sp4wn> charlie5: defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1 (that is what I use for /)
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> charlie5: I only have proc and swap mounted 0      0
[11:23] <charlie5> h3sp4wn: cheers ... will give it a shot
[11:26] <charlie5> see ya soon, i hope
[11:26] <charlie5> :)
[11:37] <charlie5> h3sp4wn: cheers mate ... all is well :D
[11:55] <solemnwarning-lt> Hi all
[11:56] <solemnwarning-lt> Are there any guides to setting up an encrypted filesystem with a big key stored on a flash drive?
[11:57] <Kiongku> df
[11:57] <solemnwarning-lt> I want to encrypt my /home and possibly my / filesystem
[12:00] <dennister> g'day again ppls
[12:00] <dennister> anyone here know mysqlserver?\
[12:01] <dennister> i can't get into it for some reason
[12:01] <Kiongku> did u set it up first?
[12:01] <dennister> lol...yes
[12:01] <dennister> then mythtv locked me out of it all
[12:01] <Kiongku> hmm
[12:02] <Kiongku> no idea.. mythtv?
[12:03] <dennister> i've been trying the command: mysql -u <username> but the error message is saying:Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock
[12:04] <dennister> yes, it uses mysqlserver as the part of the backend
[12:05] <Kiongku> l --help
[12:05] <Kiongku> darn... i cant get used that the window follow mouse XD
[12:05] <dennister> i almost(!!!) have mythtv right
[12:05] <nino> lol
[12:06] <solemnwarning-lt> Anyone?
[12:06] <nino> u can do it dennister!!
[12:08] <dennister> lol=lord, oh, lord
[12:13] <scheuri> dennister: according to your error message I (wildly) guess mysql is NOT online
[12:13] <scheuri> read: not started
[12:15] <Ash-Fox> Hey, everyone, according to a Dell advert: "I reccommend a dual core proccessor. So you can download music while working"
[12:16] <nino> stupid!!
[12:16] <vge> dennister: try run mysql with option  -S /tmp/mysql5.sock
[12:16] <scheuri> not, not stupid...absolutely not stupid!
[12:16] <nino> what the dell advert?
[12:16] <marius_> that's true??
[12:16] <scheuri> nino: yes...
[12:17] <scheuri> well...there is NO flaw in that advert
[12:17] <marius_> that advert is true?
[12:17] <scheuri> well, okay..
[12:17] <scheuri> it is partly true
[12:17] <marius_> god
[12:17] <marius_> 
[12:17] <nino> you telling me you cant download misic and work on a single cpu?
[12:17] <scheuri> arrr...wait
[12:17] <marius_> is stupid
[12:17] <marius_> 
[12:17] <scheuri> let me explain, yes?
[12:18] <nino> listning!!
[12:18] <scheuri> the advert is NOT stupid....how the hell do you think dell is selling CPU...by making stupid people buying DELL because they BELIEVE this advert
[12:18] <marius_> dual core processors are only for developers or designers
[12:18] <marius_> an user not needs that
[12:18] <Kiongku> make
[12:18] <vge> and downloading music while working!!!! o.0
[12:18] <msl> yet, they will eventually
[12:19] <scheuri> well...does the advert imply that you can not do this on a single cpu system?
[12:19] <nino> sort of
[12:19] <scheuri> hmm..okay...then its not true...but surely no stupid advert
[12:19] <h3sp4wn> They give you 512mb of ram which is stupid (when for most usage more ram is much more useful than a faster cpu)
[12:19] <scheuri> how many people will fall for that? enough to make it profitable
[12:19] <nino> ok my bad then depends how u read it i guess
[12:20] <scheuri> nino: do not worry...I do not believe it...I just wanted to point out that it is not stupid per se...:)
[12:20] <TUKADAFOONDAY> hey people, anyone here able to give me a heads up on getting my nvidia 7300GT running on kubuntu?
[12:20] <nino> so what about 64 bit!! lol
[12:20] <scheuri> TUKADAFOONDAY: isn't it running per se?
[12:20] <TUKADAFOONDAY> ummm, no i dont think it is, its just running on a generic video driver?
[12:21] <apokryphos> TUKADAFOONDAY: please read the FAQ
[12:21] <scheuri> TUKADAFOONDAY: well, I hope it is running with the opensource nvidia-driver...:)....but I guess you want 3d and stuff..
[12:21] <scheuri> !nvidia
[12:21] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:21] <TUKADAFOONDAY> thanks.
[12:21] <scheuri> you are welcome
[12:22] <scheuri> apokryphos: dont be so elitistic...;)...
[12:22] <TUKADAFOONDAY> I don't care for all the flash stuff, i just want some decent resolution,  is killing me heh
[12:22] <apokryphos> scheuri: I think you mean elitist, but no -- asking someone to read the FAQ is very far from being elitist, and in fact in most cases it's no way near as good just giving them the information
[12:22] <scheuri> TUKADAFOONDAY: that does not actually necessarily mean you need the binary driver...
[12:23] <TUKADAFOONDAY> I don't care for all the flash stuff, i just want some decent resolution,  1024 X 768is killing me heh
[12:23] <apokryphos> scheuri: since users come back with more questions, while if they know the location of the FAQ, presumably many of their questions will be answered there
[12:23] <scheuri> apokryphos: aye, I meant elitist...;)....and I was just jokling though
[12:23] <solemnwarning-lt> I want to encrypt my /home and maybe my /, are there any guides to setting up fs encryption with a key on a flash drive?
[12:23] <scheuri> *joking
[12:23] <scheuri> TUKADAFOONDAY: you may "only" need to adjust your configuration of your xserver
[12:24] <B-Minus> hello
[12:24] <scheuri> hi B-Minus
[12:24] <B-Minus> k3B is using ALL my memory when i burn a cd, but when i close k3b my memory is still at 100% in use
[12:24] <B-Minus> it even goes to my swap
[12:24] <scheuri> solemnwarning-lt: I do not know how easy it is to encrypt your /...but....
[12:24] <TUKADAFOONDAY> I have looked in there, but it will not let me change my resoltuion any higher, it may also have to do that the monitor is running on standard plug and play settings also, however i dont know the specs of this monitor
[12:24] <B-Minus> i have 1 GB ram, when i reboot i use 300 MB if i dont use k3b
[12:25] <scheuri> B-Minus: check your harddisk space with "df -h" on the CLI
[12:25] <apokryphos> TUKADAFOONDAY: install the Nvidia drivers, then go through the article on resolution change (if it's still neeeded)
[12:25] <TUKADAFOONDAY> thanks apokryphos
[12:25] <solemnwarning-lt> scheuri: It should be possible, I have a seperate /boot
[12:25] <scheuri> TUKADAFOONDAY: well, the plug should not be the problem...but maybe the missing specs
[12:25] <scheuri> TUKADAFOONDAY: are you a bit familiar with the CLI?
[12:25] <scheuri> !CLI
[12:25] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:25] <kjetilk> I just upgraded to Edgy
[12:26] <TUKADAFOONDAY> scheuri: not familiar with that, what is it?
[12:26] <B-Minus> scheuri: it seems all ok
[12:26] <apokryphos> B-Minus: it's not productive, on Linux, to say that using this X apps takes this much memory, simply. The environment doesn't function like that
[12:26] <cox377> Hello all, just wondering if someone can answer me this, just put a PCI wireless card in my computer, it reconizes it but doesnt allow me to enable it, it is also showing as eth2 rather than wlan0
[12:26] <B-Minus> hmm
[12:26] <apokryphos> B-Minus: Linux will try to use all the available memory, either for caching etc.
[12:26] <Kiongku> !lexmark
[12:26] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lexmark - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:26] <kjetilk> main problem is that when I have more than one window in a desktop, the focus jumps back and forth between the windows
[12:26] <B-Minus> apokryphos: but why doesnt it release the used memory after its done ?
[12:26] <scheuri> B-Minus: apokryphos is right...and I assume there is something wrong with your temp filling up or you using to burn "on the fly"
[12:27] <kjetilk> several times every second
[12:27] <B-Minus> i am using burn on the fly
[12:27] <apokryphos> B-Minus: it does, but it goes straight to doing other things
[12:27] <cox377> !wireless
[12:27] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:27] <apokryphos> B-Minus: does your system lag?
[12:27] <B-Minus> nope
[12:27] <apokryphos> there you go then
[12:27] <B-Minus> my system is a ok
[12:27] <scheuri> TUKADAFOONDAY: the CLI is the command line (looks like MSDOS, but much much better)
[12:27] <apokryphos> Linux is effective with memory usage like that :)
[12:27] <B-Minus> but i cant live with the fact its using all my memory, and only k3b is doing that
[12:28] <scheuri> B-Minus: try to uncheck "on the fly"...and try again
[12:28] <apokryphos> B-Minus: that's incorrect, it's not *all* going to k3b. Only the amount it needs, the rest is going to other jobs
[12:28] <B-Minus> ok i will next time, tnx for the tip
[12:29] <TUKADAFOONDAY> ahhhh, right, yeh i use that a little bit, but not all that often, i rather pretty stuff. :p
[12:29] <scheuri> B-Minus: but keep listening to apokryphos...he is right, too...helps to understand the system
[12:29] <B-Minus> apokryphos: if im using linux for some hours it keeps between 300 and 400 Mb, but once i start burning a CD if fills up to > 1GB, then when the cd is finished it still keeps there
[12:29] <B-Minus> and i cant see with ps -ef where the resources go to
[12:30] <scheuri> TUKADAFOONDAY: the reason I asked was...you either find out how to alter your xorg.conf and add new resolutions or try to use the CLI with a little wizard to try to add new resolutions
[12:30] <B-Minus> right now im only using 350 MB
[12:30] <B-Minus> and im using a lot of K programs
[12:30] <TUKADAFOONDAY> ahhhh now my server wont let me open synaptic? gives me some funky xlib error
[12:30] <B-Minus> i think there is a mem leak in k3b or something
[12:30] <apokryphos> B-Minus: if it doesn't cause your system to lag, what exactly is the problem?
[12:30] <TUKADAFOONDAY> i think i broke it heh. damn it
[12:30] <scheuri> TUKADAFOONDAY: that is why I suggested the CLI
[12:30] <B-Minus> apokryphos: cause its only using a little swap, i think when i will leave my laptop on for some days it will use a lot of swap and that will cause lag
[12:31] <apokryphos> well try, and see how it goes
[12:31] <B-Minus> ye im gonna
[12:32] <B-Minus> still, im in linux for 2 months now and there is no way im going back to xp :p
[12:32] <B-Minus> i miss the games thou
[12:32] <scheuri> B-Minus: there are some...and not only few...but depends on what you need/want
[12:32] <scheuri> TUKADAFOONDAY: are you there yet? ;)
[12:33] <TUKADAFOONDAY> whats that? i cant see :p
[12:33] <B-Minus> scheuri: ye i know, but still .. the real good games are on windows
[12:33] <B-Minus> scheuri: like wow, and a lot of FPS
[12:33] <scheuri> B-Minus: this statement I just cant agree on!
[12:33] <B-Minus> and im not a great fan of WINE
[12:33] <scheuri> B-Minus: just because YOU think the games you like are not on linux does not make them "the real good ones"...
[12:33] <scheuri> :)
[12:34] <scheuri> I can name you some games I think are real good and they work on ubuntu, too
[12:34] <B-Minus> nah but to think of some
[12:34] <scheuri> TUKADAFOONDAY: you fired up the CLI...right?
[12:34] <B-Minus> battlefield 2 etc ...
[12:34] <TUKADAFOONDAY> oh - yeh i done that
[12:35] <B-Minus> once linux has full support for those games windows has a big prob
[12:35] <B-Minus> or
[12:35] <cox377> Does anyone here know much about wireless?
[12:35] <B-Minus> photoshop etc ..
[12:35] <B-Minus> i miss those in linux
[12:35] <scheuri> TUKADAFOONDAY: well, then type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" without the ""
[12:35] <B-Minus> and to be honost, openoffice isnt that good as office xp
[12:35] <scheuri> B-Minus: may you join me at #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:35] <B-Minus> great
[12:36] <scheuri> just to make this channel free for support
[12:38] <thyko> is there a commandline network configuration tool like slackware's netconfig?
[12:40] <scheuri> thyko: ummh...good question...what do you want to do? changing network conf? you can do that manually (quite easy) with nano or vi
[12:40] <scheuri> TUKADAFOONDAY: still here?
[12:41] <TUKADAFOONDAY> yeh
[12:42] <TUKADAFOONDAY> sorry, just changed all that stuff, so now i guess i restart X and see how bad i went?
[12:42] <scheuri> TUKADAFOONDAY: yes...you know how to restart?
[12:42] <scheuri> TUKADAFOONDAY: and I mean NOT REBOOTINg the whole machine
[12:42] <TUKADAFOONDAY> ummm, i used to but its been a while :p
[12:42] <TUKADAFOONDAY> so no i dont know how to restart
[12:42] <TUKADAFOONDAY> X
[12:42] <scheuri> TUKADAFOONDAY: its ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:42] <dennister> i need help with this mysql.sock :(
[12:43] <scheuri> dennister: are you on CLI?
[12:43] <dennister> i'm tearing my hair out with it...yes i am on cli
[12:43] <scheuri> dennister: already tried to start/restart mysql?
[12:44] <dennister> it's stopped, purged, reinstalled...still can't get to setting a new user
[12:44] <scheuri> dennister: already tried to log in with an existing user?
[12:44] <dennister> yes...b4 i purged and reinstalled
[12:45] <scheuri> dennister: and that worked?
[12:45] <dennister> nope
[12:45] <dennister> nothing worked
[12:45] <scheuri> dennister: what user did you use to log in?
[12:45] <dennister> i can't log in, that's the problem
[12:46] <dennister> it's locked up good and tight
[12:46] <scheuri> well...what command did you use and what kind of user did you use to log in with?
[12:47] <wildchild> !samba
[12:47] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:47] <thyko> is there a commandline network configuration tool like slackware's netconfig?
[12:47] <dennister> ok...let me start from the beginning...i was almost done setting up mythtv...i'd created users and rights, then mythtv creates another user, and nobody can get back into myswl
[12:48] <scheuri> dennister: and that user of mythtv is able to log in?
[12:49] <dennister> nope, mythtv (the user mythv created, can't get in either
[12:49] <dennister> although i'm not sure i've done the cli correctly; mysql -u mythtv
[12:50] <dennister> i've tried other high-ranking users too
[12:50] <tukadafoonday> hah - damn hat didn't go quite right.
[12:50] <dennister> should the password follow the username?
[12:50] <thyko> !dhcp client
[12:50] <ubotu> dhcp: DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0pl5-19.4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 108 kB, installed size 308 kB
[12:50] <scheuri> dennister: well, there is another option...to test...install apache and phpmyadmin...and try to use it locally
[12:50] <thyko> !dhcp
[12:51] <thyko> !network
[12:51] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:51] <dennister> apche2 and phpmyadmin are installed, but not configured yet...hadn't gotten to that stage...what about entering the password at the end of the cli?
[12:52] <jaaroo> can I somehow make root filesystem (edgy) while system is running? I would expect something like debootstrap should do this.
[12:53] <scheuri> dennister: well, I rarely us CLI for that...mostly use phpmyadmin (I am lazy, I know)
[12:54] <dennister> heheh...ok..will try configuring those 2 apps...
[01:01] <tukadafoonday> wooo, finally some decent resolution.
[01:01] <tukadafoonday> thanks scheuri
[01:02] <scheuri> tukadafoonday: very welcome...still...the driver which is used by default is the opensource-driver....no 3d, no dualhead and stuff...
[01:03] <thyko> for petes sake! ... how do i entirely switch off dhcpclient?
[01:03] <tukadafoonday> yeh i guessed that, though i wouldn't mind getting the nvidia driver woring, as the mouse is kinda chunky when it moves.
[01:03] <thyko> i edit the /etc/resolv.cof
[01:03] <tukadafoonday> !nvidia
[01:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:03] <scheuri> thyko: by telling your /etc/network/interfaces not to give dynamic IP to ethX
[01:03] <thyko> but on reboot its changed >:-(
[01:03] <scheuri> thyko: resolv.conf is NOT the place you want to look
[01:04] <scheuri> thyko: AFAIK the first lines of resolv.conf read "do not alter"...right?
[01:05] <scheuri> thyko: if you are okay in the CLI and altering files...you want to alter /etc/network/interfaces
[01:05] <cox377> I've just managed to get my wireless card enabled under network settings, but it's showing as a Eth2 rather than wlan0, and when i load the wireless assistant manager it says it cant find any device.. does anyone have any ideas?
[01:05] <scheuri> thyko: there you can add static IPs and stuff...
[01:05] <scheuri> !network
[01:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:07] <tukadafoonday> how come i cant run "synaptic" under superuser?
[01:07] <tukadafoonday> gives me a gtk warning
[01:07] <scheuri> tukadafoonday: you are logged in KDE with root? or your normal user?
[01:07] <scheuri> with=as
[01:08] <tukadafoonday> kde as a normal user. then console to su
[01:08] <thyko> scheuri: :( https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/network-configuration.html im following that but nothing!
[01:09] <scheuri> thyko: after altering that file you need to "ifdown ethX && ifup ethX"...have you done that?
[01:09] <thyko> there's no way in interfaces to specify DNS servers?
[01:10] <scheuri> thyko: ah...well...there should be...
[01:10] <rahmetli> can i save my current KDE settings like panel settings and clock etc.?
[01:11] <scheuri> rahmetli: it is saved in files in your home-directory (/home/yourname/.kde)
[01:11] <scheuri> rahmetli: if you want to back it up, just back up that folder
[01:11] <rahmetli> i want to back it up
[01:11] <rahmetli> ok,thanks.
[01:13] <wilman> how do i get my 5.1 sound working. only front speakers and sub work
[01:13] <rahmetli> if i install a new theme am i going to be able to restore to the previous settings with that back up copy?
[01:13] <wilman> yes
[01:14] <wilman> you can just install the old theme again
[01:14] <dennister> scheuri: even more serious probs
[01:14] <scheuri> dennister: how is that?
[01:14] <scheuri> dennister: you just installed apache and phpadmin...:)
[01:15] <dennister> well i figured i hadn't completely purged things first...so i tried again through synaptic, and deleted some stuff another howto directed me to
[01:15] <dennister> now i can't reinstall mysql-server cause of unmet dependenceies
[01:16] <dennister> apt-get install -f isn't even working
[01:16] <scheuri> dennister: may you pastebin the output of "sudo aptitude install mysql-server" (or "mysql5-server")
[01:17] <dennister> k...!pastebin
[01:17] <JorixB> arts keeps crashing, if I start artsd manualy it comes with a segfault, but downgrading arts didn't solve anything
[01:18] <dennister> !pastebin
[01:18] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:19] <dennister> it's at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30416/
[01:20] <tukadafoonday> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[01:20] <tukadafoonday> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[01:20] <tukadafoonday> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[01:20] <tukadafoonday> arghhhhh, whyyyyyyyy
[01:20] <tukadafoonday> heh
[01:20] <tukadafoonday> maybe i got the qrong nvidia drivers
[01:24] <scheuri> dennister: you have mysql still installed? haven't you purged it?
[01:24] <scheuri> tukadafoonday: I doubt it...if you installed it like it was told by the docs...
[01:25] <scheuri> !nvidia
[01:25] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:25] <scheuri> tukadafoonday: are you on dapper (6.06) or edgy (6.10)?
[01:25] <dennister> well parts of it have been re-installed, i believe
[01:25] <tukadafoonday> ummmm.
[01:26] <dennister> yes, parts of it have been
[01:26] <scheuri> dennister: hmmm...try to purge it again "sudp aptituce remove --purge mysql5-server" (assuming you have no data there)
[01:27] <dennister> that's ok...the data would have had to be re-done anyway
[01:28] <tukadafoonday> how do i check? heh sorry for being so out of touch with linux :p
[01:29] <dennister> still very similar errors with the purge as with the install
[01:29] <tukadafoonday> i think im edgy
[01:29] <thyko> BY JOVE!!!!!
[01:30] <scheuri> tukadafoonday: hmm...I am still on dapper
[01:30] <thyko> i got it B-)
[01:30] <scheuri> thyko: heh
[01:30] <JorixB> arts keeps crashing, if I start artsd manualy it comes with a segfault, but downgrading arts didn't solve anything
[01:30] <h3sp4wn> JorixB: Any particular reason you need arts ?
[01:31] <JorixB> no
[01:31] <scheuri> h3sp4wn: you can get rid of it?
[01:31] <h3sp4wn> scheuri: Just stop the sound server
[01:31] <JorixB> but I don't want it to bother me and I would like to have some warning sounds to allert me
[01:31] <JorixB> I stopped it already
[01:31] <scheuri> h3sp4wn: yes sure...but...then...there is not sound?
[01:32] <dennister> those warning sounds r a pain
[01:32] <JorixB> only non kde programs
[01:32] <dennister> i shut them off
[01:32] <h3sp4wn> Individual apps can still give you sound
[01:32] <h3sp4wn> (i.e amarok)
[01:32] <scheuri> ah, right...okay
[01:32] <thyko> scheuri: its well hidden, but i found it ... was always good @ hide n seek
[01:32] <scheuri> thyko: where was it hidden??
[01:32] <h3sp4wn> and kaffeine or xine
[01:32] <dennister> scheuri: any ideas?
[01:32] <JorixB> amarok and such use xine which uses alsa directly
[01:32] <JorixB> so it works
[01:32] <scheuri> dennister: I am running out of ideas
[01:33] <dennister> is ready to cry
[01:33] <JorixB> I never had problems with it, but suddenly after an update it started
[01:33] <wildchild> does anyone here use samab?
[01:33] <wildchild> samba*
[01:33] <JorixB> but I have no idea what package is guilty
[01:33] <scheuri> wildchild: No one here will help you just because you are too lazy to read TFM
[01:33] <wilman> i can change the volume of my 5.1 rear speakers but i dont hear anything from the rear speakers
[01:33] <scheuri> :)
[01:33] <wildchild> oh cmon'
[01:33] <wildchild> I read it
[01:33] <wildchild> not all of it
[01:34] <scheuri> wildchild: aahh...not all of it? ;)
[01:34] <wildchild> I just don't know a few things
[01:34] <nino>  dennister: mysqlcheck --all-databases --auto-repair
[01:34] <wildchild> I would like to share to XP user
[01:34] <wildchild> so..
[01:34] <nino> just taking a shot
[01:34] <thyko> scheuri: /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d
[01:34] <wildchild> [name_of_oflder] 
[01:34] <thyko> base >:)
[01:34] <wildchild> guest = ok
[01:34] <scheuri> thyko: thanks...
[01:34] <wildchild> path = /...
[01:35] <wildchild> anything else
[01:35] <JorixB> It's anoying though when I try to press ksayit it gives an arts error
[01:35] <h3sp4wn> wildchild: Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question.
[01:36] <dennister> nino: still my old friend: Error 2002can't connect...sqld.sock
[01:36] <linuxmichi> hi all
[01:36] <nino> damn
[01:36] <JorixB> what packages could I try to downgrade?
[01:36] <JorixB> to get arts working
[01:36] <wildchild> h3sp4wn: I have prob setting my samba; I wanna share files with XP user
[01:37] <h3sp4wn> wildchild: that means nothing - what specific problem do you have
[01:37] <h3sp4wn> wildchild: which howto are you following
[01:37] <h3sp4wn> !samba
[01:37] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:38] <wildchild> h3sp4wn: I added like it says in instructions: [name_of_file_to_share]  path = /home/usr/sdb2/movies/
[01:38] <wildchild> guest = ok
[01:38] <wildchild> and I restart samba
[01:38] <wildchild> and user on XP still doesn't see my share folders :S
[01:38] <tukadafoonday> how do i know what kubuntu i'm running?
[01:38] <h3sp4wn> cat /etc/lsb_release
[01:39] <h3sp4wn> wildchild: debug is with smbclient
[01:39] <rahmetli> tukadafoonday:  lsb_release -a
[01:39] <h3sp4wn> wildchild: debug it with smbclient
[01:40] <wildchild> don't know how
[01:41] <tukadafoonday> hanks
[01:42] <h3sp4wn> wildchild: use the [cdrom]  example in the default smb.conf and change to suit (remember for normal users you need to manually set the password with smbpassword if you add a new account
[01:42] <dennister> h3sp4wn: scheuri has run out of ideas, and i can't seem to fix dependency problems with a package
[01:42] <delight> I got two edgy installations ... only differenz is that the one is using AIGLX and the other unfortunatly XGL ... but it's both not used anyways ...  now on kde I can't choose the keyboard layouts in kcontrol on the "XGL machine" ... all fields are empty ... i can activate keyboard layouts checkbutton, but no keyboard type or layout is present or chooseable ...
[01:43] <nino> dennister: have a look here http://tech-recipes.com/mysql_tips762.html
[01:43] <h3sp4wn> delight: uninstall xgl - come back when edgy is standard (I am pretty sure that is an xgl specific issue)
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> delight: or ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[01:44] <h3sp4wn> !xgl
[01:44] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[01:44] <delight> ok ... ican try unistalling xgl / beryl
[01:46] <dennister> nino...unfortunately that won't help me, as I;m the server and some of those key files it references don't exist on my system
[01:52] <dennister> quiet all of a sudden
[01:53] <dennister> h3sp4wn: ? u still here?
[01:54] <thyko> is there a way to make a program run in a specific tty?
[01:55] <dennister> thyko: i have no idea, sorry
[01:56] <dennister> <---would really love some help herself...but some have gamely tried
[01:58] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[01:59] <dennister> hi BluesKaj
[01:59] <BluesKaj> hi dennister, how are you making out with your vidcard setup ?
[02:00] <dennister> i almost(!!!) had all of mythtv successfully set up
[02:00] <rahmetli> i generally see some system information related to cpu,LAN... on the left of linux screenshots,what are they?how can i have one on my kubuntu?
[02:00] <dennister> but now i have some serious probs with mysqlserver...can't reinstall it after purging
[02:00] <BluesKaj> really...wow mythtv is really a complicated thing to compile and install
[02:01] <fabian_> rahmetli you could use superkaramba to add those features to your desktop
[02:01] <dennister> edgy makes it a LOT simpler...cause u can download the ivtv drivers from repos with edgy
[02:01] <BluesKaj> i haven't even attempted it yet , dennister :)
[02:02] <rahmetli> fabian_:  thnx,but is it easy to configure?
[02:02] <dennister> yes, ur still pretty new, right?
[02:03] <dennister> i've now been up for 24 hours
[02:03] <BluesKaj> yeah dennister, still somewhat of a newbie ;)
[02:04] <dennister> i suppose i could start from scratch again :(
[02:04] <dennister> i've only had this edgy installation since yesterday afternoon
[02:04] <fabian_> yes very easy...just go to the adept manager and type superkaramba...download it and an Icon will appear on your Utilities menu
[02:05] <dennister> and I'm supposed to be at the office in an hour or so.......but the bloody volunteer i need to meet didn't call, didn't email...don't even know if he'll show
[02:05] <BluesKaj> I'm using TVTime and it works ok , but Edgy doesn't even list my ATI TVwonder card in sys/settings/hardware :)
[02:06] <dennister> but then again, he wants something, so he probably will
[02:06] <dennister> well, i couldn't even get tvtime working, but mythtv was seeming like it was going to
[02:06] <BluesKaj> dennister, they usually show up when thy have an adgenda :)
[02:07] <dennister> it at least found a channel...unlike all the other apps that couldn't even find any channels or a signal
[02:07] <BluesKaj> mythtv has a dedicated website for setup instructions i beleive
[02:08] <[GuS] > Guys... qt4 linguist does not exist in Edgy?
[02:08] <dennister> yes, they do...lots of howtos...and one of them is the exact one that screwed me :(
[02:08] <[GuS] > or is inside qt4-dev-tools?
[02:08] <BluesKaj> I'm an old retired guy so I have some time on my hands ...maybe mythtv could be interesting
[02:08] <dennister> not sure [GuS] ...i've only had edgy < 24 hrs
[02:09] <[GuS] > ok
[02:09] <[GuS] > i wil check
[02:09] <BluesKaj> [GuS] , I think it uses q4 tools
[02:09] <dennister> BluesKaj: don't bother trying myth without edgy
[02:09] <[GuS] > yes... checked now... is inside qt4-dev-tools package
[02:10] <BluesKaj> dennister, I'm on Edgy
[02:10] <fabian_> Does anyone in here have a laptop HP DV1000 with kubuntu installed in it????
[02:10] <dennister> then ur almost all set :)
[02:10] <BluesKaj> i updated from dapper
[02:10] <fabian_> Does anyone in here have a laptop HP DV1000 with kubuntu installed in it????
[02:10] <dennister> [GuS] : would u have an idea how to fix uninstallable packages like mysqlserver?
[02:11] <[GuS] > uninstalable? what do you mean?
[02:11] <dennister> i couldn't get back into it, so a mythtv told me to purge it and delete a couple other files...and then reinstall, but i can't reinstall
[02:11] <BluesKaj> lots od ppl have kubuntu on their laptops ...the model number has very little to do with it unless the computer is more than 5 yrs old
[02:12] <dennister> unmet dependencies...it's looking for certain files and directories that the howto told me to delete :(
[02:12] <[GuS] > dennister, but why? breaks packages? libs? which is the the error/problem?
[02:12] <dennister> apt-get install -f didn't help
[02:13] <dennister> i have a pastebin somehwere...
[02:13] <dennister> scheuri: was trying to help me but gave up
[02:14] <dennister> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30416/
[02:14] <BluesKaj> unmet dependencies is a prob ...wish the programs would list what is required  when the files aren't inclused in OS upgrades
[02:15] <[GuS] > BluesKaj, if you downloaded or installed an app from the oficial distro, be sure that dependencies are there... if not, then maybe is a bug
[02:16] <dennister> yes BluesKaj; they usually do...it's because i deleted stuff too...that's the problem's cause
[02:16] <[GuS] > dennister, you have installed  mysql-server-5.0 ?
[02:16] <BluesKaj> that's what i mean [GuS] , how does one know what the dependencies are if they aren't listed
[02:17] <[GuS] > BluesKaj, when you install an app... will tel you
[02:17] <dennister> but as soon as u mark them in synaptic or adept, u do get a list of the dependencies
[02:17] <[GuS] > dennister, you have installed  mysql-server-5.0 ?
[02:17] <dennister> [GuS] : i did install it, then purged, deleted other stuff, now can't reinstall
[02:18] <xsacha> what can i use to view ppt (powerpoints) ? openoffice wont open it
[02:18] <BluesKaj> then mythtv is n't ready primetime Edgy
[02:18] <[GuS] > do sudo apt-get install  mysql-server-5.0 --reinstall or dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0
[02:18] <mindspin> does anyone know how to solve the problem with no sound in flash/firefox ?
[02:19] <[GuS] > xsacha, which version of Ms Office did you use to create  that file'
[02:19] <[GuS] > ?
[02:19] <xsacha> 2003
[02:19] <SuperLag> Any of you guys use Kile on your Kubuntu installs?
[02:19] <[GuS] > mindspin, there a lot of info if you look into google about that...
[02:19] <BluesKaj> mindspin, install Flash 9 beta
[02:20] <xsacha> nevermind, KOffice opens it
[02:20] <mindspin> I tried some of ge given hints but with no success
[02:20] <mindspin> there is info in launchpad, but I was hoping for an easy solution ;-)
[02:21] <dennister> [GuS] : i tried both commands, still errors
[02:22] <[GuS] > other than that dennister , is a very mistake to use root users acount :P
[02:23] <[GuS] > and second.. you should aware of which HOWTO do you follow.
[02:23] <[GuS] > the same errors as you showed me appears?
[02:23] <dennister> i am aware of which howto's i follow, ty...yes, the same errors appear
[02:24] <dennister> if a howto tells u to delete them, and the only way you can is as root, it's going to be deleted
[02:24] <dennister> hi LeeJunFan
[02:25] <[GuS] > dennister,
[02:25] <[GuS] > sudo is why existe my friend
[02:25] <[GuS] > to not use root user.........
[02:25] <[GuS] > exist*
[02:26] <BluesKaj> mindspin, http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[02:26] <dennister> LeeJunFan: u've been my hero before...
[02:27] <dennister> is ready to beg...or clean reinstall
[02:27] <BluesKaj> mindspin, make sure you uninstall the vers 7 first otherwise it vers9  won't work in FF
[02:27] <LeeJunFan> dennister: what's up?
[02:27] <dennister> i can't reinstall some packages
[02:27] <mindspin> I'll have a try, thanks
[02:28] <rahmetli> Having troble " could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_file'  "
[02:28] <dennister> i had em installed, purged, deleted some other things following a howto, and now can't reinstall due to the deleted 'other things'
[02:29] <dennister> a coupla ppl have already given up trying to help me :(
[02:29] <LeeJunFan> dennister: what deleted other things? dpkg and apt-get don't work?
[02:30] <dennister> no, they don't work, neither does apt-get...-f  the 'deleted other  things' refers to mysqld.sock and my.cnf
[02:31] <LeeJunFan> dennister: well, what exactly are you trying to re-install? And what errors do you get when you try?
[02:31] <wilman> how to clone stereo sound to 5.1?
[02:31] <dennister> i was trying to reinstall mysqlserver-5.0 and myswl-server...paste is at...
[02:32] <dennister>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30416/
[02:33] <h3sp4wn> dennister: apt-get install --reinstall -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confmiss -o DPkg::Options::=--force-confnew <package>
[02:33] <BluesKaj> wilman , does yer soundcard have DPL ?
[02:33] <h3sp4wn> dennister: (to get a default config back for a package)
[02:33] <h3sp4wn> dennister: dpkg assumes if you delete something its on purpose
[02:33] <dennister> ok...i'm trying to follow direction
[02:34] <LeeJunFan> dennister: you need to install mysql-common, that provides my.cnf file.
[02:36] <h3sp4wn> but if my.cnf is deleted it shouldn't be put back without confmiss
[02:38] <rahmetli> Having troble " could not start process Unable to create io-slave: klauncher said: Error loading 'kio_file'  "
[02:38] <BluesKaj> why would a cnf be deleted in the first place ?
[02:40] <LeeJunFan> BluesKaj: because he deleted it.
[02:40] <BluesKaj> the Dr is in da house !
[02:40] <BluesKaj> but,why would a cnf be deleted ?
[02:40] <h3sp4wn> if you delete something instead of just renaming it or moving it somewhere else
[02:42] <scheuri> BluesKaj: it would not unless you want eg. aptitude to do so
[02:42] <scheuri> BluesKaj: there are options that will tell apt-get or aptitde to "purge" everything...which may be helpful sometimes...so you can start a clean install
[02:42] <BluesKaj> my question is..why would one want or have to delete a cnf file ?
[02:43] <scheuri> BluesKaj: for a complete remove of an app? to start clean again?
[02:43] <BluesKaj> ok, thx scheuri
[02:43] <scheuri> BluesKaj: "removing" with apt-get or aptitude does NOT delete config-files
[02:43] <scheuri> BluesKaj: purging does
[02:43] <h3sp4wn> confmiss puts them back
[02:44] <BluesKaj> I thought a cnf file was one file that has global use
[02:44] <dennister> h3...still the same errors
[02:44] <scheuri> BluesKaj: well, configfiles may have global use for a certain application,
[02:44] <dennister> sorry...h3sp4wm
[02:45] <BluesKaj> right scheuri ..gotcha :)
[02:45] <scheuri> BluesKaj: but there is no config-file which has a global use for ALL application (well, granted...the kernel-config if you recompile your kernel...if you bork that nothing is running anymore)
[02:45] <scheuri> k...:)
[02:46] <scheuri> however (sorry, need to add that) there are some major config files of some major applications you surely not want to bork...:)
[02:46] <delight> every so often when i log out ... my system freezes .. got an ati with fglxr ... using ubuntu but gdm as a Desktop-manager
[02:47] <delight> this was happening with dapper too ... now on edgy seems to be more often
[02:47] <scheuri> gdm is fine as desktopmanager in Ubuntu (as Ubuntu is using Gnome)
[02:47] <scheuri> you mean, you are using gdm in Kubuntu?
[02:47] <delight> yes
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> you are loseing out on some features of KDE doing that. :)
[02:48] <delight> :-) i thought its kind of nicer looking .. i prefer kde for working thou .. i got the ubuntu-desktop installed addional on the same machine
[02:48] <scheuri> delight, Dr_Willis: true...but none that makes your system freeze actually
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> could try diabling kdm/gdm and just booting to the console ans using 'startx' and see if the lockups still happen when you logoug
[02:48] <h3sp4wn> I don't think it makes much difference (gdm is pretty lean - because of its use for xubuntu)
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> some love the login as other user, and such features. :) i guess
[02:49] <mzi> hello
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> actually i thought the logout options differ also.
[02:49] <scheuri> delight: I had such freezes with Kubuntu at shutdown, too...Kmail was running in background (as usual) but somehow a upgrade to KDE 3.5.5 fixed it
[02:49] <h3sp4wn> I dennister You mean at the same time ?
[02:49] <h3sp4wn> Dr_Willis: you mean at the same time ?
[02:50] <scheuri> delight: what I meant to say was...KMail made those lockups to me...it didnt terminate properly
[02:50] <delight> no its not kmail on me
[02:50] <dennister> h3...i tried the 3 files indidivudally...always got the combined error messages for both mysql-server and myseql-server-5.0
[02:51] <delight> i might ask the same question on #ubuntu .. i think it might have to do with ati card
[02:51] <h3sp4wn> dennister: pastebin the full error message
[02:51] <dennister> !pastebin
[02:51] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:51] <Dr_Willis> h3sp4wn:  yes. theres some kdm/kde features that let you spawn a new X session  i rarely used it.. but some come in here asking aobut it.
[02:51] <mzi> I have a problem with dead keys with kde 3.5.5 release on edgy, is it the right place to ask?
[02:52] <scheuri> I sometimes use a new X session for Gnome if someone asks about it
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> guy at work calls Gnome 'Gee-nome'
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> :)
[02:52] <h3sp4wn> Dr_Willis: I know that feature (For me startx works fine - if I wanted a graphical login manager entrance or even xdm I would prefer to kdm/gdm
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> be a man! use wdm :)
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> actually i saw a text based xdm somewhere once..
[02:53] <h3sp4wn> What makes wdm better than xfm
[02:53] <h3sp4wn> xdm
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> go ask the windowmaker guys i guess. :P
[02:53] <Dr_Willis> i really find the direction windowmaker and gnustep heading to be. odd...
[02:54] <scheuri> xdm is propably lighter...as in space, memory and stuff
[02:54] <dennister> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30429/
[02:54] <h3sp4wn> thats why e17 is so nice - looks decent and very light still
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> i noticed today the login text/fonts on KDM are really really tiny.. not sure where to set them.
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> E17 ! now lasts 17 min befor crashing! :)
[02:54] <Dr_Willis> soon to be E18!
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> aint tried E17 in about 6 months Heh.. it always amusing to play with for a while
[02:56] <h3sp4wn> It has not crashed for me (in any way) for at least 6months (other than once which was my own fault - not resetting the config files which had changed significantly)
[02:56] <BluesKaj> yeah , newbs like me trying to get it work is kinda laffable :)
[02:56] <dennister> and h3sp4wn? that paste was when i ran ur confmiss command only for mysql-server-5.0
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> last i toyed with it - crashed every 5 min or so. but it was a cvs version.
[02:57] <h3sp4wn> still cvs but alot more stable since I started to use it
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> E just seems to be one of those cool eye candy things.. people use for a bit. then change over to somthing else to get real work done.
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> it has some neat features.
[02:57] <h3sp4wn> For me I find it more productive than using kde
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> Ive been using MatchBox Lately :)
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> never did get the latest to compile on Edgy however.
[02:58] <h3sp4wn> But ratpoison just uses the screen keybinding's so that is more intuative than anything
[02:59] <h3sp4wn> I probably should start using that
[02:59] <h3sp4wn> but it definately doesn't look particularly nice
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> its a screen with a huge window and text. :P with little borders.. whats to look at.
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> its always fun to go back and try out the OLD window managers
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> olvwm 4-ever!
[03:00] <h3sp4wn> Dr_Willis: ratpoison as a wm
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> wmx - now that one is amusing. :)
[03:01] <h3sp4wn> I always used olvwm instead of cde (because it ran loads faster on old sun's)
[03:01] <dennister> h3sp4wn: did u see my paste and message subsequent message?
[03:02] <h3sp4wn> dennister: I don't understand how it has got to this state - have you installed any deb's from anywhere else
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> cde is one ive never used.
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[03:02] <h3sp4wn> dennister: run sudo -f aptitude install
[03:02] <dennister> nope i haven't installed any other debs...except fo w32codescs and libdvdcss2
[03:03] <BluesKaj> gotta have those for dvd and tv
[03:03] <h3sp4wn>  /usr/share/mysql
[03:04] <h3sp4wn> if that is empty you have pretty big problems
[03:06] <h3sp4wn> dennister: what happens if you just remove mysql-server first
[03:06] <scheuri> h3sp4wn, dennister: tried to chmod 777 the cnf-file (if existent)
[03:06] <dennister> ok...clean reinstall it is then...i did 'just remove mysql-server' first
[03:07] <h3sp4wn> dennister: will it let you remove it ?
[03:07] <dennister> nope...i get errors then, too
[03:07] <h3sp4wn> dennister: what errors
[03:08] <dennister> pretty well the same ones when i try to reinstall...almost identical i think
[03:09] <dennister> look, i've been awake for 24 hours nonstop now...i think i have to stop and then just start from a clean install...it really didn't take that long to go from 0 to mythtv-almost-finished
[03:09] <dennister> it's so easy with edgy
[03:10] <dennister> ...until i hit this sql-server snag...and next time i'll know better what to expect and what NOT to do
[03:11] <scheuri> bah...24h...that is noooothing....you stay up until its made, mate...;)
[03:11] <dennister> i'll bow to the xperts...what do u think of my plan?
[03:11] <dennister> when ur this tired ur bound to make stupid errors
[03:12] <nino> take 5 man
[03:12] <dennister> cute scheuri :)
[03:13] <dennister> and scheuri; u ran out of ideas too, so i'm still following ur lead by taking a nap :)
[03:13] <scheuri> dennister: touche...;)
[03:14] <dennister> throws out a dozen roses to all those who've tried to help so gamely...
[03:14] <scheuri> dennister...yep...shutdown your PC and yourself for a while...might help quite a bit (for both)
[03:14] <dennister> ty all, and g'nite (9:14 am here)
[03:15] <BluesKaj> Mythtv is a tour de force to install from all reports, if you succeed , it's a major accomplishment :)
[03:16] <nino> lol i agree to that one!! Anyone tried the live cd version of mythtv??
[03:17] <BluesKaj> 9:14 am here too ...eastern canada...i think dennister meant PM
[03:17] <nino> i got 16:17
[03:17] <scheuri> BluesKaj: well, dennister was surely "down under"...;)
[03:18] <BluesKaj> yeah, most likely scheuri
[03:19] <BluesKaj> scheuri, I was going to tackle mythtv install, but now I'm a bit leary
[03:19] <scheuri> hehhe
[03:19] <scheuri> well, I must admit that this was pretty strange what happend
[03:20] <scheuri> I can not imaging that it will happen often...on the other hand..it was edgy...I wont touch it
[03:20] <BluesKaj> TVTime works ...except the picture quality is hard to control ..the whites tend to bloom too much and the brightness and contrast controls don't fix it .
[03:21] <h3sp4wn> I went to sleep at 6am and got up at 8:45 (I am tired but I will sleep properly tonight)
[03:21] <scheuri> h3sp4wn: properly is the right expression...had no sleep two nights ago, but a pretty good one last night...;)
[03:26] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hey   guys o
[03:27] <Th3_Cr0up13R> how much do you think a computer virus researcher gets paid per hour?
[03:28] <scheuri> Th3_Cr0up13R: asking that in a LINUX-Channel...ehrmmm
[03:28] <Th3_Cr0up13R> $ 10 15
[03:29] <Th3_Cr0up13R> scheuri: this is a linux chanel
[03:29] <Th3_Cr0up13R> and since linux doesnt have so many viruses and know more about viruses thought it would be a good idea
[03:29] <scheuri> heh...I meant...a linux channel is not where I asked first...
[03:30] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i tried goodle but it doesnt really say anything
[03:30] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i thought you guys would know someone or heard from anyone roughly how much they get paid
[03:31] <hw> hi everyone
[03:31] <scheuri> hi there
[03:32] <hw> how can I force the use of gcc 3.3? gcc points to 4.1.2
[03:32] <tabias> is there any certain reason I can not install keytouch anymore? If there is a reason, what is an alternative to keytouch?
[03:32] <ubuntu> hi
[03:33] <scheuri> hw: you have gcc3.3 installed?
[03:34] <hw> scheuri: yes :)
[03:34] <scheuri> hw: there are several ways...mine is to create a new symlink...gcc points to 4.1.2? so let it point to gcc-3.3...:)
[03:34] <h3sp4wn> hw: CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4; ./configure (or whatever
[03:34] <h3sp4wn> hw: easier than messing around with symlinks
[03:35] <hw> h3sp4wn: ok, I'll give it a try. do you know the variable for g++ as well?
[03:36] <Th3_Cr0up13R> is there any way to close the kde wallet ? it wants me to save passwords all the time and i keep pressing cancel and then the program im initially trying to load doesnt load
[03:36] <Th3_Cr0up13R> how can i get rid of it ?
[03:37] <h3sp4wn> hw: I don't remember have to look it up each time - think it might be CXX
[03:37] <hw> scheuri: does gcc use the correct libraries?
[03:38] <scheuri> hw: I am not sure what you mean?
[03:38] <scheuri> hw: what libraries? you mean those needed by your programm you want to compile?
[03:39] <ubuntu> hi
[03:40] <ubuntu> how can i switch channel?
[03:40] <delight> ubuntu: irc channel ?
[03:40] <ubuntu> i mean as qnet.uk qnet.de etc
[03:41] <BluesKaj>   /join #channel name
[03:41] <delight> depends on your irc client
[03:41] <hw> scheuri: the environment variable seems to help
[03:41] <ubuntu> i dont mean actually channels :P
[03:41] <ubuntu> i mean like qnet.uk, freenode etc
[03:41] <scheuri> hw: as I said...several ways to do it...:)...mine is more...ehrmm...stone age...;)
[03:41] <delight> you mean irc-servers
[03:41] <ubuntu> ye :P
[03:41] <delight> as i said
[03:41] <BluesKaj> servers
[03:41] <delight> depends on your irc client
[03:41] <ubuntu> i use Konversation
[03:42] <hw> scheuri: thx =)
[03:42] <ubuntu> or actually i just started to use this :P
[03:42] <BluesKaj>      /server irc.server.name.org/net/com
[03:42] <delight> blueskaj  yes ... but this is just temporary
[03:42] <delight> look into the prefs of konversation
[03:42] <ubuntu> ok :)
[03:43] <delight> i usually use either kopete or gaim
[03:43] <ubuntu> is that easier :P?
[03:43] <BluesKaj> is there way to DL server addy's into Konverstion
[03:44] <delight> ubuntu: don't know if its easier ... i prefer it as its running for my IMs anyways
[03:44] <delight> its pretty easy thou
[03:48] <ubuntu> i kind of screwed up my windows and im now trying kubuntu
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> :)
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> windows screws itself up
[03:57] <richardh_> Hi...anyone familiar with dual core processors?
[03:59] <h3sp4wn> what is there to be familiar about
[04:01] <Furesho> anybody here know exactly what a skim panel is?
[04:04] <thyko> how can i make an app, say cmatrix, run on tty1 at boot time?
[04:15] <h3sp4wn> thyko: You could use openvt (But I have never it manpage looks
[04:15] <h3sp4wn> easy enough to read
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> !info openvt
[04:20] <ubotu> Package openvt does not exist in any distro I know
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> :()
[04:20] <h3sp4wn> part of console-tools
[04:20] <Dr_Willis> DVD-DL media is still outragous priced. :(
[04:21] <h3sp4wn> I haven't even used my dvd writer yet (suppose I should buy some disks)
[04:21] <h3sp4wn> to write dvd's anyway
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> my new writer has been getting a work out this weekend.
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> its amazing how much cruft you accumulate on hard drives.
[04:22] <Dr_Willis> 140gb+ of emulator stuff..
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> then i realize that 1/2 of it is backups of stuff i got in a different dir.
[04:23] <Dr_Willis> most all of it are games i never play.. and proberly never will.
[04:25] <BluesKaj> yea, i have several games taking up HDD space ...should just delete'm thru adept
[04:25] <BluesKaj> came with the edgy upgrade
[04:27] <h3sp4wn> thyko: If you want to use something specifically on vt1 you should probably remove the getty from there
[04:28] <zero> hi
[04:28] <zero> does anyone run ubuntu in macbook?
[04:28] <bashee> yep
[04:29] <zero> bashee: did you manage to sleep yours?
[04:29] <bashee> no. didn't try.
[04:30] <bashee> but the other stuff works :)
[04:30] <zero> bashee: oki, the RC too?
[04:31] <bashee> front row?
[04:32] <zero> bashee: i know that you can use your RC like an extension of your keyboard but i don't know how
[04:32] <bashee> heard that it works but there is no useful application for it http://desrt.mcmaster.ca/macbook.xhtml
[04:34] <zero> bashee: a guy manage to controle mplayer with it
[04:36] <Furesho> how do i get my kweather to work? i'm on kubuntu and i installed kweather thru adept. when i try to configure it, all i get is a blank window that says "empty page" just below the title bar of that window
[04:37] <tabias> how do I install bttv drivers, I can't get the module to load or I can't just install it
[04:42] <wilman> how to clone mp3/ogg files. front and rear speakers
[04:45] <BluesKaj> wilman, do you dolby pro logic on your soundcard?
[04:45] <BluesKaj> have
[04:45] <newman> yea
[04:46] <wilman> uu
[04:46] <wilman> i have soundblaster 5.1 24 bit
[04:49] <PupenoR_> How do I add another resource to the address book in Kontact ?
[04:59] <simo_> hi
[05:00] <simo_> i have a wireless connected with usb
[05:00] <simo_> i don't know why it doesn't works
[05:00] <simo_> somebody will help me?
[05:04] <bipolar> simo_: I'm only here for a second, but you must be more specific with your question.
[05:05] <simo_> ok
[05:05] <simo_> it is a dell wireless 1450 USB adapter
[05:05] <gium> salve
[05:05] <simo_> i don't become
[05:05] <simo_> salve
[05:06] <simo_> any error....
[05:06] <simo_> but it doesn't work
[05:06] <abbyz> what error?
[05:08] <willy> alguien de todos me puede ayudar
[05:09] <willy> anoche instale el j2sdk1.5
[05:09] <BluesKaj> simo_, check system/Kinfocenter /devices
[05:09] <willy> queriendo actualizar mi jvm pero no se si ya esta funcionando
[05:09] <BluesKaj> !es
[05:09] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:10] <BluesKaj> !pt
[05:10] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[05:10] <simo_> i have made......
[05:11] <simo_> and how can you install an another wireless that need window driwrs
[05:11] <simo_> driwers*
[05:11] <simo_> ?
[05:12] <krawek> drivers. he means
[05:12] <BluesKaj> not sure , i had a difficult time wit a wired windows network, so wireless one would be beyond my scope
[05:13] <tobias> hello all ubuntu-fans! Im finally deleting my evil bill the "G" mans partition from my hd, I wish to use this newly won space for my kubuntu system, how do I go about findind a fitting partitioning program that is not very confusing?
[05:14] <BluesKaj> yes , the drivers are prolly there , but it's configging the network names and IP addys that can be the problem
[05:17] <toxidas> hi everyone anybody run lg3d on edgy?
[05:23] <white-rabbit> Ciao
[05:23] <bthibault> hi, my java plugin for firefox isn't working. FF 2.0 and I have sun-java5-plugin
[05:23] <bthibault> any ideas?
[05:25] <toxidas> i have glx misssing on display 0:0 message anyone can help me to fix this?
[05:26] <white-rabbit> how to set italian language on kubuntu 6.10?
[05:28] <simo_> bo comunque io parlo italiano
[05:29] <white-rabbit> :)
[05:29] <simo_> white-rabbit , se ti posso aiutare....
[05:29] <white-rabbit> Si, se sai come mettere la lingua ita su kubuntu 6.10
[05:29] <simo_> io la ho scelta nell'installazione
[05:29] <white-rabbit> Pure io, ma resta in inglese
[05:30] <simo_> allora durante l'installazione nn avevi la rete
[05:30] <white-rabbit> Si, c'era ed era configurata..
[05:30] <simo_> dv installare i pacchetti italiani se nn sn installati.......
[05:30] <simo_> ti dico cm si chiamano
[05:30] <white-rabbit> Si, come li installo? cercando mi da tutte le lingue tranne italiano per kde
[05:30] <white-rabbit> -.-'
[05:31] <white-rabbit> Hai una lista di rep dove ci sono in ita i pacchetti?
[05:32] <simo_> il pacchetto per kde penso sia:
[05:33] <simo_> language-pack-kde-it
[05:33] <white-rabbit> provo a cercarlo
[05:33] <simo_> e anche language-pack-kde-it-base
[05:33] <simo_> prova anche language-support-it
[05:34] <white-rabbit> Non me li trova.. Mi passi il tuo sources.list?
[05:34] <simo_> da quanto hai installato?
[05:34] <white-rabbit> 2 secondi
[05:34] <simo_> xke x aggiungere multiverse e universe basta provare a sentire un mp3 con amarok
[05:35] <simo_> e ti chiede se aggiungere i repositori
[05:35] <white-rabbit> Ho gi aggiunto multiverse
[05:35] <simo_> ah ok
[05:35] <simo_> so perch
[05:35] <Hawkwind> !es
[05:35] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:36] <simo_> asp
[05:36] <simo_> provo
[05:36] <georgeb> !it | simo_ white-rabbit
[05:36] <ubotu> simo_ white-rabbit: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:36] <white-rabbit> Che minchioni che sono eheheh
[05:37] <simo_> cm non funzionano i repositori italiani
[05:37] <simo_> ok kubunut-it
[05:37] <inma> hola
[05:37] <white-rabbit> ci sono
[05:37] <inma> hi
[05:37] <georgeb> !hi | inma
[05:37] <ubotu> inma: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[05:37] <inma> thanks
[05:38] <inma> jajaj
[05:40] <Bulwinkle> Hello all....  I'm switching back to Kubuntu after the Novell-M$ deal ....
[05:40] <BluesKaj> the server still splitting every  5 mins ?
[05:40] <Bulwinkle> LOTS of great changes since 5.x
[05:41] <BluesKaj> hi Bulwinkle , welcome back to the fold :)
[05:41] <h3sp4wn> Bulwinkle: If you use gnome you have all the mono stuff which will no doubt become tainted with the results of the above deal
[05:41] <BluesKaj> have you installed edgy yet ?
[05:42] <h3sp4wn> (gnome 2.16 or later anyway - so kubuntu is a better choice than ubuntu)
[05:42] <georgeb> Bulwinkle: why ? You saw that suse was asking you to instal WGA/SuGA package  ? :-D
[05:42] <Bulwinkle> h3sp4wn: Yeah, I'm a KDE guy
[05:45] <willy> Alguien sabe como instalar JLex y JavaCup
[05:47] <BluesKaj> eeeeuuuww, xchat looks like crap vs konverstion
[05:48] <BluesKaj> xchat has better text fonts available in windows
[05:50] <Bulwinkle> Can someone tell me why when my X session won't lock in on 1280x1024?  It sets the virtual screen at 1280x1024 but the actual resolution is like 1024x768...
[05:50] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: If you use msttcorefonts you can use the Windows fonts and make Xchat look better than the Windows version
[05:51] <Hawkwind> Xchat in Windows is horrible.  It's developed mainly for Linux but ported to Windows which is what makes the Linux client far more superior
[05:51] <willy> alguien me puede ayudar para poner Jlex y Java Cup a mi maquina
[05:52] <h3sp4wn> Windows in general renders fonts better than unix without alot of messing around though
[05:52] <poopybutt> can i get ff 2.0 through apt-get
[05:52] <poopybutt> ?
[05:53] <BluesKaj> naw Hawkwind , i'll stick with konverstion ...it works for me just fine ...xchat has always been a bother , but iwas the first irc chat client i ever used i Linux so i retry it everyonce in a while .
[05:53] <Hawkwind> BluesKaj: Good thing Linux is all about choice :)
[05:53] <Hawkwind> poopybutt: Not for Dapper you can't
[05:54] <BluesKaj> yessir Hawkwind
[05:54] <dude_> hi guys
[05:54] <dude_> abattoir !
[05:55] <abattoir> hi dude_ :)
[05:56] <macconline> hi.... any use forefox 2.0?
[05:56] <macconline> firefox 2.0
[05:56] <dude_> abattoir: is it safe to install xgl in edgy?
[05:56] <Bubba_Gump> macconline: yah :)
[05:57] <macconline> Bubba_Gump: a have a problem
[05:57] <h3sp4wn> dude_: Its never safe to install xgl
[05:57] <abattoir> dude_: pretty much, yes, but make yourself familiar w/ irssi first ;)
[05:57] <Bubba_Gump> macconline: what's the problem?
[05:57] <BluesKaj> yes macconline FF2 is the default in edgy
[05:57] <h3sp4wn> dude_: But its no less safe than in dapper
[05:57] <macconline> Bubba_Gump: i have instaled version 2.0 final, so five minute ago, run forefox and run version 1.5
[05:58] <macconline> this version of 1.5 don instaled
[05:58] <dude_> abattoir: irrsi?
[05:58] <Bubba_Gump> macconline: aye?
[05:58] <dude_> getin confiused here : )
[05:59] <mikefoo> How can I copy a partiton table from one disk to another?
[05:59] <dude_> h3sp4wn: what do you min?
[05:59] <macconline> Bubba_Gump: aye? i dont understand
[05:59] <abattoir> dude_: it's a command line irc client, i was trying to imply that it'd be useful if you know your way around it if X breaks...
[05:59] <Bubba_Gump> heh, aye = yes
[05:59] <abattoir> dude_: it should'nt happen though, so follow instructions, and go ahead and try it, if you want to
[05:59] <dude_> abattoir: ya, i know irrsi, a little bit :)
[06:00] <Hawkwind> s/if X breaks.../*when* X breaks...
[06:00] <dude_> abattoir: still afraid :)
[06:00] <abattoir> dude_: and people at #ubuntu-xgl would be helpful
[06:00] <abattoir> Hawkwind: thanks ;)
[06:00] <dude_> abattoir: xgl/compiz? beryl? whats the difference?
[06:00] <abattoir> !xgl
[06:00] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:01] <abattoir> !beryl
[06:01] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[06:01] <abattoir> dude_: tbh, the wikipedia articles would explain them more extensively than i ever can
[06:01] <BluesKaj> abattoir, I was in #ubuntu-xgl for hrs when i wantyed to install xgl ...no one would answer
[06:01] <dude_> abattoir: so what do you recommend?
[06:02] <macconline> Bubba_Gump: the problem is that i have installed version 2.0 y run the version 1.5
[06:02] <Bubba_Gump> the link you're clicking to load
[06:02] <white-rabbit__> O_o
[06:02] <abattoir> dude_: beryl really seems to be popular, go ahead and try it if you feel adventurous
[06:02] <Bubba_Gump> does it load 1.5 or 2.0?
[06:02] <abattoir> BluesKaj: oh :( , never really been there though
[06:03] <macconline> Bubba_Gump: i have installed version 2.0, all fine, but now run version 1.5
[06:03] <dude_> abattoir: hehehe...an adventurous person but still novice in linux
[06:03] <Bubba_Gump> macconline: how did you install 2.0?
[06:03] <Hawkwind> You'll never get past novice if you don't experiment and break things to repair them :P
[06:04] <abattoir> dude_: the guide for installing beryl seems pretty self-explanatory, you could ask at #beryl too
[06:04] <macconline> Bubba_Gump: download pack .tar.gz
[06:04] <Bubba_Gump> macconline: try installing via adept
[06:04] <Bubba_Gump> see if that works
[06:04] <dude_> abattoir: ok, i'll give it a try, have you tried those?
[06:05] <abattoir> dude_: the linux drivers for my graphics card don't support 3d, so i can't try it :(
[06:05] <abattoir> as in 3d h/w acceleration
[06:06] <dude_> abattoir: oh ok, i install 3ddesktop, well it seems ok
[06:06] <mattik> how do I change kdewallet pasword if I have forgotten?
[06:06] <macconline> Bubba_Gump: apt-get say: firefox is version most recient
[06:06] <dude_> abattoir: oh ok, i install 3ddesktop, well it seems ok, but limited effects
[06:06] <macconline> Bubba_Gump: sorry my english
[06:06] <Bubba_Gump> macconline: s'ok :)
[06:07] <Bubba_Gump> macconline: try the uninstall on adept, remove the tar.gz, and go for a new 2.0 adept install
[06:07] <macconline> ok
[06:07] <Bubba_Gump> :))
[06:09] <dude_> abattoir: if my system breaks, can i still use grub to boot from xp?
[06:09] <macconline> Bubba_Gump: that is a crazy
[06:10] <macconline> Bub
[06:10] <abattoir> dude_: it most possibly won't affect anything more than X, so you'd be able to boot into kubuntu as well
[06:10] <Bubba_Gump> macconline: what happened?
[06:10] <macconline> Bubba_Gump: i dont do nothing
[06:10] <abattoir> dude_: you can login, and use irssi, w3m, mail etc. :)
[06:10] <dude_> abattoir: ok...here goes...tnx
[06:10] <dude_> :)
[06:10] <Bubba_Gump> macconline: does firefox load?
[06:10] <abattoir> dude_: good luck
[06:11] <macconline> Bubba_Gump: and restart firefox and close, restart and close and run version 2.0
[06:11] <macconline> i don understabd
[06:11] <macconline> i don understand
[06:12] <Bubba_Gump> macconline: do you have firefox installed at the moment?
[06:12] <dude_> abattoir: nevermind...not yet ready, still afraid hehehehe
[06:12] <dude_> abattoir: no guts hehehe
[06:12] <macconline> Bubba_Gump: yes.... no change nothing
[06:13] <abattoir> dude_: i've heard that the effects are worth it though ;)
[06:13] <abattoir> dude_: which video card?
[06:13] <Bubba_Gump> macconline: i'm not entirely sure then
[06:13] <Bubba_Gump> macconline: maybe have a check through the forums possibly
[06:13] <dude_> abattoir: i dont know what video card driver
[06:13] <dude_> abattoir: nvdia
[06:13] <abattoir> dude_: do you have the binary nvidia drivers installed?
[06:14] <yeti_> adept_manager just crashed and now it tells me that the database is locked, how do i resolve this?
[06:14] <macconline> Bubba_Gump: ok, very thanks, but is very stranger
[06:14] <abattoir> !adept crash fix| yeti_
[06:14] <ubotu> yeti_: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[06:14] <Bubba_Gump> macconline: it is very strange, let us all know how you find a result, be really glad :)
[06:14] <dude_> abattoir: i have no idea :), how can i check that
[06:15] <abattoir> dude_: then most probably you don't
[06:15] <Th3_Cr0up13R> my cdrom doesnt get recognised
[06:15] <macconline> Bubba_Gump: jeje.... well, very thanks again.....
[06:15] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i cannot mount it at all
[06:15] <Th3_Cr0up13R> im trying to play a dvd film
[06:16] <Th3_Cr0up13R> and it just doesnt recognise it
[06:16] <Th3_Cr0up13R> tried mount /mnt/cdrom
[06:16] <dude_> abattoir: so many commands
[06:16] <dude_> abattoir: i don't think i can make it
[06:17] <lz1gjd> hi, could one tell a similar to nokia pc suite program for linux
[06:17] <abattoir> dude_: ok, then wait till it becomes more 'friendly' :)
[06:17] <abattoir> lz1gjd: kmobiletools is somewhat similar
[06:17] <abattoir> !info kmobiletools
[06:17] <lz1gjd> thank you
[06:17] <ubotu> kmobiletools: KDE application for controlling your mobile phone. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.3.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 128 kB, installed size 484 kB
[06:17] <abattoir> !info gnokii
[06:17] <ubotu> gnokii: Datasuite for the mobile phones (console & X). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.13-4ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 811 kB, installed size 2944 kB
[06:18] <dude_> abattoir: most probably, but everytime i watch the videos in youtube....i get excited :)
[06:20] <lz1gjd> hmm as far as i could see, these program are used for other things, all i want is to access my phone's file system
[06:23] <h3sp4wn> use the gnokii filesystem program then
[06:24] <h3sp4wn> all you want to use is use something in a non standard format
[06:24] <h3sp4wn> http://www.gnokii.org/download/gnokiifs/README
[06:25] <lz1gjd> h3sp4wn: thx
[06:33] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i can read dvd with files but if it is a movie it doesnt recognise the disk at all, can someone help fix this problem
[06:34] <xbehave> is it possible to choose which wallet konqueror uses?
[06:34] <tabias> How can I install a printer that is connected to the network via a ZOT print server ?
[06:41] <bipolar> I absolutly LOVE the magnatune.com integration in the new version of amarok!
[06:41] <bipolar> this is so nice
[06:50] <Bulwinkle> Which flash plugin package should I be using for firefox?
[06:51] <yeti_> is there some kind of apt-cache listfiles <package> command that lists all files that belong to <package>
[06:51] <yeti_> ?
[06:51] <fdoving> yeti_: 'dpkg -L packagename' or apt:/ in konqueror
[06:51] <fdoving> dpkg -L only works for installed packages.
[06:51] <fdoving> apt:/ goes to packages.ubuntu.com
[06:51] <fdoving> there is also 'apt-file'
[06:52] <yeti_> thanks fdoving
[06:52] <fdoving> (which probably isn't installed by default)
[06:54] <h3sp4wn> apt-file is useful
[06:55] <sonic_> Anybody know where I can find my php binary on kubuntu?
[06:55] <ubuntu> ?
[06:55] <georgeb> sonic_: run which php
[06:56] <borisyeltsin> hi, anyone else using kde to transfer stuff onto a memory stick, the transfer completes fine, then  when you try and use the stuff on the usb stick it's completely corrupted?
[06:56] <Bulwinkle> borisyeltsin: make sure you unmount the media before you remove it
[06:57] <zaraq> #test
[06:57] <sonic_> 'which php' does nothing
[06:57] <georgeb> sonic_: hmm.. php it's managed with alternatives; run "sudo update-alternatives --list php" to get the path to php
[06:57] <borisyeltsin> Bulwinkle: I do unmount it, well I right click and go "Safely remove"
[06:57] <Bulwinkle> borisyeltsin: in windows right?
[06:57] <borisyeltsin> and it dissapears from my desktop
[06:57] <borisyeltsin> Bulwinkle: no, linux to linux, both running kde.
[06:58] <sonic_> georgeb: That doe nothing either
[06:58] <Bulwinkle> borisyeltsin: hmmmm... *SHRUG*
[06:58] <georgeb> sonic_: I think you don't have php installed; run "sudo dpkg -l php*" to see if it's installed
[07:00] <sonic_> georgeb: It says it's there [ii <----status] 
[07:00] <untung_> Hi, what the development tools in Ubuntu?
[07:01] <sonic_> georgeb: and phpmyadmin is running fine
[07:03] <fdoving> sonic_, georgeb you need the php4-cli or php5-cli package, to get the php binary.
[07:04] <sonic_> fdoving: 'apt-get install php5-cli'????
[07:04] <fdoving> sonic_: if you have php5, yes.
[07:04] <untung_> hi i got error could not find pakacge monodevelop
[07:04] <sonic_> fdoving: Cool, I'll give it a go, thanks
[07:04] <fdoving> untung_: you need to enable the universe repository.
[07:04] <fdoving> !repos | untung_
[07:04] <ubotu> untung_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:06] <sonic_> fdoving: That seems to work. How do I find the binary path then?
[07:06] <fdoving> sonic_: 'which php5'
[07:07] <sonic_> got it. fdoving, georgeb, thanks for the help guys
[07:08] <case__> hi
[07:08] <case__> someone konws how can i activate the dma mode?
[07:08] <case__> in edgy
[07:09] <fdoving> case__: that should happen automatically. if not, you can use 'hdparm'
[07:09] <case__> thanks :)
[07:10] <untung_> fdoving: I am using ubuntu 6.60
[07:10] <fdoving> case__: there is /etc/hdparm.conf
[07:10] <fdoving> case__: make sure you don't set any other options unless you know what you're doing, it can be dangerous.
[07:10] <untung_> fdoving: i could find monodevelop in sypnatic pakacge manager
[07:10] <fdoving> untung_: it's the same.
[07:11] <bthibault> i can't get java working with firefox, has anybody else had this problem ? K 6.10 FF 2.0
[07:11] <untung_> fdoving
[07:11] <fdoving> untung_: then you should be able to find it in adept too. You can install synaptic if you want, you know.
[07:11] <untung_> fdoving: what should i do?
[07:11] <case__> ok, thnks
[07:12] <untung_> fdoving: how to enable the pakage
[07:12] <fdoving> !repos | untung_
[07:12] <ubotu> untung_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[07:12] <ubuntu> hI!
[07:18] <poopybutt> is firefox 2.0 supported through apt-get yet?
[07:18] <shadowhywind> its been
[07:19] <poopybutt> shadowhywind: is it just apt-get install firefox?
[07:19] <fdoving> poopybutt: it's included in edgy.
[07:20] <shadowhywind> i believe so.
[07:23] <bthibault> java isn't working w/ FF 2.0
[07:23] <bthibault> i have sun-java5-plugin
[07:23] <bthibault> and the current JRE
[07:23] <bthibault> is there something else i need to do?
[07:24] <Juan___> Hi all
[07:25] <Juan___> Anyone using nfs ?
[07:27] <case__> kubuntu rocks, see you guys
[07:30] <untung_> hi where can i download ubuntun 6.10 dvd?
[07:32] <fdoving> ungt
[07:32] <fdoving> untung_: http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[07:32] <poopybutt> untung_: glad you searched long and hard on google before asking
[07:34] <untung_> poopybutt: thanks i go to kubuntu chat rather than search in google.. long live linux... there not chat for xp yet
[07:57] <Jonty> Can anyone suggest an app, CLI or GUI, that converts oggs and flacs indisciminately
[07:57] <Jonty> ...to mp3s
[07:58] <wilman> hmm
[07:58] <wilman> lets sse
[07:59] <wilman> what about gogo
[07:59] <Jonty> gogo, eh?
[07:59] <wilman> gogo
[07:59] <wilman> mp3 encoder
[08:00] <wilman> ooh wait you need a decoder
[08:00] <Jonty> flag, ogg -> mp3
[08:03] <wilman> kost allemaal geld
[08:03] <Jonty> ?
[08:04] <wilman> er is wel software maar het kost allemaal  geld
[08:04] <Hawkwind> wilman: English only here please
[08:04] <wilman> srry
[08:04] <wilman> it all cost munny
[08:08] <^itch> Hello guy s
[08:08] <Bubba_Gump> howdy
[08:09] <^itch> Can somebody pls help me.I`ve set up by mistake my display to 16:9 and now my X it`s crashing when I try to boot up the system. Any sugestions ?
[08:10] <letalis> ^itch: youll need to fix it in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:11] <ninHer> hi all
[08:11] <letalis> migt require some manual editing
[08:11] <letalis> might
[08:12] <^itch> letalis: what acutaly I`m looking for. Cuz I don`t see any option that sets my display to 16:9
[08:13] <^itch> *actualy
[08:16] <^itch> letalis: is there any command that allows me to set the kde config file to default ? I recall there was such command for gnome.
[08:17] <visitor> hello
[08:17] <visitor> can anyone read this?
[08:17] <soultcer> hello visitor
[08:17] <visitor> hello
[08:17] <boris__> hi visitor
[08:17] <visitor> hi
[08:17] <^itch> lol
[08:17] <wilman> hi
[08:17] <^itch> hello visitor :)
[08:18] <visitor> whats everyone up to today?
[08:18] <wilman> hi hi
[08:18] <visitor> i am really bored
[08:18] <^itch> visitor , well, i`ve just crashed my X :(
[08:18] <visitor> huh?
[08:18] <visitor> how old is everyone here?
[08:19] <^itch> Oh common ppl, does nobody want to help a poor guy like meh ? :P
[08:19] <wilman> 63
[08:19] <ptmq> my sisters computer crashed while recovering with the recover cd from Medion.... no i kubuntu there's no data on the partition. This data on her c:\ partition is lost isn' t it?
[08:19] <ptmq> *now
[08:19] <soultcer> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamello <-- nearly 16 :D
[08:19] <wilman> whoo
[08:19] <visitor> is anyone between the ages of 19-24 in here?
[08:20] <wilman> nope
[08:20] <wilman> more like 16
[08:20] <^itch> Haha
[08:20] <^itch> Underaged :)
[08:20] <bipolar> < - 27
[08:21] <^itch> <- 22
[08:21] <soultcer> In Austria you are allowed to drink beer at the age of 16 :P
[08:21] <visitor> i am bored and i need to have a good conversation with someone
[08:21] <^itch> In my country, you just have to know how to drink :)
[08:21] <visitor> what country is that?
[08:21] <boris__> 23
[08:22] <frankmyhre> You are also allowed to drink alcohol in a age of 16 in Denmark
[08:22] <ptmq> i have a problem with possibly lost data, anyone can help?
[08:22] <bipolar> Canada is 18, iirc. I'm in USA which is a lousy 21.
[08:22] <visitor> ok well I am 19/w/f here and looking for someone to have a good conversation with...
[08:22] <visitor> is anyone willing?
[08:23] <visitor> nothing perverted
[08:23] <visitor> bipolar how old are you and what sex are you?
[08:23] <bipolar> visitor: this is more of a tech support/help channel... not a lot of converstaional people in here most of the time. many, like me, are currently at work.
[08:24] <bLaZeD> lol
[08:24] <ccc> visitor: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:24] <visitor> so what then people need to have a conversation
[08:24] <bLaZeD> 1st time iever ever seen anyone in here ask for that b4 visitor
[08:24] <visitor> ask for what?
[08:24] <kkathman> visitor:  also #kubuntu-offtopic works also for general chat
[08:24] <bLaZeD> to chat with ppl
[08:25] <bLaZeD> this is a help chan
[08:25] <drarem> are there any wsywig-type ajax editors out there
[08:25] <kkathman> drarem:  try quanta
[08:25] <drarem> ok
[08:28] <ptmq> hmmpf
[08:31] <vicentico> hola
[08:31] <vicentico> alguien habla espaol?
[08:31] <TheGateKeeper> !es
[08:31] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:36] <Pliskin> !fr
[08:36] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:36] <drarem> i just installed a bunch of freeware games using the synaptic package manager and noticed my /dev/hda2 dropped from 1.2Gb down to 570Mb..  what's a good way to recover some of it or even to exand it?  It's sharing a 40Gb windoze harddrive
[08:37] <drarem>  /dev/hda1 contains my /windows/media stuff on it
[08:38] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[08:41] <asglhjat> to all ubuntu/kubuntu user : What do you think of the new version 6.10?
[08:42] <drarem> there's a new one out?
[08:43] <Triple{X}> "Codename" Edgy Eft
[08:43] <Triple{X}> I heard its pretty buggy
[08:45] <redtricycle> Yeah, more stuff "worked" like, my keyboard's extra keys
[08:45] <redtricycle> but there's also stuff like not being able to shut down
[08:45] <redtricycle> through gui
[08:45] <sledge_at_work> O_o
[08:45] <redtricycle> and the live install problems with qpart
[08:45] <redtricycle> But heeeeeey, I'm sure that's not for everybody
[08:46] <redtricycle> and only for a few people -_-
[08:46] <Pliskin> !ar
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ar - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <markelhas> hi ppl
[08:50] <markelhas> where can i find desktop resolution in kubuntu?
[08:52] <Triple{X}> You can either count pixels or you look in kcontrol
[08:53] <markelhas> Triple{X}: i would like to change it
[08:54] <Triple{X}> just execute the command kcontrol
[08:54] <Triple{X}> then its right on top on the left side
[08:54] <markelhas> hummm, shouldn't i have one icon on service manageR?
[08:56] <markelhas> Triple{X}: can't find where to change resolution and or refresh rate
[08:56] <redtricycle> !ls
[08:56] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via applications -> accessories -> terminal (gnome) or kmenu -> system -> konsole (kde). Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[08:57] <redtricycle> that's cool
[08:57] <Triple{X}> markelhas:Trouble is I got the german version of kubuntu
[08:57] <markelhas> Triple{X}: :(
[08:59] <amik> hi, anyone know about KNetworkManager and/or wireless setup?
[09:00] <hollywoodb> does apt/synaptic leave a log anywhere? I'd like to undo some changes and I'm not finding any logs of exactly what packages I removed and installed yesterday
[09:00] <markelhas> Some with kubuntu 6.10 in english where can i change resolution and refresh rate?
[09:00] <amik> hey markelhas, I just tried that a few minutes ago
[09:00] <binary2k2> System Settings -> Monitor & Display
[09:01] <markelhas> amik: where can u help me out
[09:01] <amik> i failed, since my monitor is not on the built-in list, but the standard system settings should do it
[09:01] <markelhas> amik: but i don't have that option
[09:01] <markelhas> :(
[09:01] <Triple{X}> markelhas: so I got it. You press alt + F2 enter 'kcontrol' then Peripherals->Display->Size, Orientation & Positioning
[09:02] <amik> markelhas: u don't have K-Menu -> System Settings?
[09:02] <markelhas> Triple{X}: in Peripherals-> i don't have display
[09:02] <markelhas> :(
[09:02] <markelhas> amik: yes i have
[09:02] <amik> no "Monitor & Display" in it?
[09:02] <markelhas> amik: but seams theres something mising
[09:03] <markelhas> amik: no
[09:03] <markelhas> amik: how can i resolve this
[09:03] <Triple{X}> markelhas: In system setting it should be display as well...
[09:03] <Triple{X}> UNless you don't have a display connected ^^
[09:04] <markelhas> Triple{X}: :P
[09:04] <amik> markelhas: I dunno, I'm a newbie myself, but just came across it a few minutes ago. I have it in  system settings under 'Computer Administration' row...
[09:04] <markelhas> amik: oki
[09:04] <markelhas> simple gone
[09:04] <markelhas> :(
[09:04] <amik> good luck :-)
[09:05] <amik> anyone know how to find wireless networks in KNetworkManager?
[09:08] <Galathalion> anyone know why firefox freeze when i load a site?
[09:10] <magicmike> Anyone available to help with a display settings problem? My display which is normally set to 1280x768 changed without my making any adjustments. When I try to adjust it back to the original settings I am only given the range of 640x480 - 640x350. I am using an ATI graphics card.
[09:10] <spamyboy> Pleas anyone click on this link (afiliat): http://www.tufat.com/aff.php?id=3138 (i need more 40 click to purcha one script) Thank you
[09:11] <duane_> Galathalion: maybe it's time to try out Opera or Konqueror
[09:11] <duane_> which are better anyway
[09:12] <magicmike> Anyone?
[09:13] <Galathalion> duane_: yeah im thinking about opera
[09:13] <thenatos> i've heard ATI isn't to nice with linux... i've been using a nvidia with no problems...
[09:13] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[09:14] <magicmike> Well, it was working fine for a week or so.
[09:14] <sledge_at_work> thenatos: AMD bought ATi recently. I hope it'll change in the future.
[09:15] <Bubba_Gump> Galathalion: konq is a cool browser :)
[09:15] <Galathalion> Bubba_Gump: i thought it was slow
[09:15] <Bubba_Gump> Galathalion: mplayer just *works* and pages load quick
[09:15] <magicmike> So you're basically saying you don't know how to assist me .
[09:15] <kamui> h3sp4wn: what was the Xorg package I was supposed to purge after doing teh distupgrade into edgy?  I lost internet connection in teh middle and had to reboot when the distupgrade was finished
[09:15] <kamui> ndiswrapper doesn't work well for me
[09:15] <thenatos> thats what i'm saying, but i've ben using linux for about 15 hours now
[09:15] <kamui> doesn't work at all  in edgy
[09:15] <thenatos> :P
[09:15] <Galathalion> Bubba_Gump: mplayer didnt work for me
[09:15] <Bubba_Gump> Galathalion: faster than firefox AND opera on my computer
[09:16] <h3sp4wn> kamui: xserver-xorg-driver=*
[09:16] <kamui> but teh native bcm43xx driver is doing a damn good job in edgy
[09:16] <thenatos> newayz, i'm out... bbl
[09:16] <h3sp4wn> kamui: xserver-xorg-driver-*
[09:16] <kamui> h3sp4wn:  do I need to close down X to do it?
[09:17] <Bubba_Gump> Galathalion: only thing keeping me on firefox is noscript, which, is a great piece of kit
[09:17] <Bubba_Gump> oh and chatzilla :D
[09:17] <h3sp4wn> kamui: If X is working then you probably don't need to (get rid of them to be safe though)
[09:17] <darkwizzard> hello guys
[09:17] <darkwizzard> I need some help
[09:17] <kamui> h3sp4wn: do I have to do them one at a time?  I tried sudo aptitude purge xserver-xorg-driver-* and it gave me a list of matching titles
[09:18] <darkwizzard> I just made a clean install of edgy
[09:18] <darkwizzard> and now I get
[09:18] <darkwizzard> SwapTotal:           0 kB
[09:18] <dom> !kickoff
[09:18] <ubotu> kickoff is a new KDE menu developed by SUSE. It organises items differently, has an integrated Beagle search, and been put through extensive usability testing in the Novell usability lab. See http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/2283
[09:18] <h3sp4wn> kamui: sudo aptitude purge xserver-xorg-driver~i
[09:18] <darkwizzard> it doesn't recognize my swap partition
[09:18] <darkwizzard> tryed formating it
[09:18] <darkwizzard> twice
[09:18] <darkwizzard> no effect
[09:18] <darkwizzard> what should I do ?
[09:19] <kamui> h3sp4wn: thanks, thats working.  fglrx is still intact, so Im happy
[09:19] <sweet_truth> sing to it] 
[09:19] <h3sp4wn> kamui: run ``dpkg -C'' (also lists broken packages and dependancies
[09:19] <darkwizzard> can anyone help me ?
[09:20] <h3sp4wn> !anyone
[09:20] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[09:20] <binary2k2> darkwizzard>
[09:20] <darkwizzard> I alredy did
[09:20] <binary2k2> darkwizzard: is it in your fstab?
[09:20] <darkwizzard> could be
[09:20] <darkwizzard> should I paste it ?
[09:20] <darkwizzard> I mean
[09:20] <darkwizzard> pastebin it
[09:20] <binary2k2> darkwizzard: please
[09:21] <_sergio> hello
[09:22] <darkwizzard> here : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30475/
[09:22] <darkwizzard> strange
[09:22] <darkwizzard> it seems commented
[09:22] <der_steppenwolf> hi, i have a problem with firefox 2.0 in edgy. I installed the flash nonfree plugin and now firefox crashes when i try to view a flash content
[09:22] <hollywoodb> der_steppenwolf: flash 7 or flash 9 ?
[09:23] <binary2k2> darkwizzard: it was changed to use UUIDs when you upgraded to edgy
[09:23] <darkwizzard> binary2k2: ?
[09:23] <darkwizzard> oh
[09:23] <darkwizzard> yeah
[09:23] <darkwizzard> and why doesn't it work ?
[09:23] <mulder> Hello all. I need some help with installing the right drivers for my audigy sound card.
[09:23] <binary2k2> darkwizzard: maybe when you reformated it it's UUID changed
[09:24] <der_steppenwolf> hollywoodb: flash 7
[09:24] <ypsila> moin
[09:24] <darkwizzard> how can I found out ?
[09:24] <georgeb> darkwizzard: try "sudo swapon -U 70ea70a1-6260-409c-9acd-e6928ac4bf5c" and see if you get any errors
[09:24] <mulder> any help more than welcome.
[09:25] <binary2k2> darkwizzard: type "sudo vol_id -u /dev/hda7"
[09:25] <ypsila> and good evening
[09:25] <darkwizzard> swapon: cannot stat /dev/disk/by-uuid/70ea70a1-6260-409c-9acd-e6928ac4bf5c: No such file or directory
[09:25] <binary2k2> darkwizzard: that will get the UUID
[09:25] <darkwizzard> ok
[09:25] <darkwizzard> got
[09:25] <LeeJunFan> man, I'm gonna have to wait until I get a quad core processor to vidcap beryl.
[09:25] <darkwizzard> it
[09:25] <georgeb> darkwizzard: it means the uuid has changed, see the vol_id thing to get the new uuid
[09:25] <binary2k2> darkwizzard: just change the UUID in fstab to that one
[09:26] <darkwizzard> ok
[09:26] <der_steppenwolf> any ideas?
[09:26] <darkwizzard> thanks
[09:26] <darkwizzard> I'll reboot now
[09:26] <georgeb> no need
[09:26] <binary2k2> darkwizzard: swapon command will work
[09:26] <georgeb> darkwizzard: sudo swapon -a ; it will try to use all swap partitions defined in /etc/fstab
[09:26] <Pelo> good afternoon folks
[09:27] <mc__> hi guys,im running a legacy 32-bit oss application on amd64,how to get the sound working? artsdsp and aoss did not work for me
[09:27] <darkwizzard> yes~
[09:27] <darkwizzard> it works
[09:27] <Pelo> I'm having a bit of trouble with kmymoney ,  can you guys recommend a channel ?
[09:27] <darkwizzard> you guys rule
[09:27] <darkwizzard> thanks
[09:27] <darkwizzard> see ya around
[09:27] <binary2k2> no problem
[09:27] <ypsila> Good evening Pelo
[09:27] <mulder> please fellas...I have been struggling with my audigy 2 zs card for days and days. I would love to be able to make it work.
[09:28] <der_steppenwolf> what is the best flash plugin for firefox 2?
[09:28] <Bubba_Gump> beta 9 i'd say
[09:28] <georgeb> i use flash9 beta, it works ok
[09:28] <Bubba_Gump> tis the one i use :D
[09:29] <binary2k2> use a beta in a beta :P
[09:29] <magicmike> Yo bot, last jende sighting?
[09:29] <georgeb> !flash9 | der_steppenwolf
[09:29] <ubotu> der_steppenwolf: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[09:29] <hollywoodb> mulder: what's the problem with it?
[09:29] <der_steppenwolf> is there a package for kubuntu 6.10)
[09:29] <Bubba_Gump> is firefox 2.0 a beta?
[09:29] <hollywoodb> Bubba_Gump: no
[09:29] <chelu> hi
[09:29] <german> hi
[09:29] <Bubba_Gump> ok :)
[09:30] <ypsila> good evening
[09:30] <magicmike> Hi german.
[09:30] <Bubba_Gump> howdy
[09:30] <chelu> anyone knows about amsn's tlc error?
[09:30] <mulder> Thank you Holly. Well when I go into system settings, sound system, the card is recognized as a midi device, but not audio
[09:30] <Pelo> !kmymoney
[09:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kmymoney - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:30] <hollywoodb> mulder: how about in alsamixer, are there sliders for PCM and Master, or just MPU401 and MIDI type stuff?
[09:31] <binary2k2> Pelo: if no one here knows, try in #kde
[09:31] <mulder> I am not sure if I have alsa mixer installed!
[09:31] <ypsila> hmm that could help me too binary2k2
[09:31] <hollywoodb> mulder: you do, run it in a term
[09:31] <mulder> how Holly?
[09:32] <mulder> I don't knoe the command
[09:32] <hollywoodb> mulder: press alt+F2, then type 'konsole' and when that comes up type 'alsamixer'
[09:33] <mulder> it shows HDA Intel
[09:33] <ypsila> hollywoodb: a really wonderful way
[09:33] <hollywoodb> mulder: and you have an audigy 2?
[09:33] <mulder> Chip: Realtek ALC883
[09:33] <mulder> yes, notebook one
[09:33] <mulder> audigy 2 zs
[09:34] <hollywoodb> mulder: alright, does your system have perhaps an integrated sound card AND the audigy 2 in it?
[09:34] <mulder> It is a laptop with integrated sound, and the audigy 2 inserted into the pcmia slot
[09:35] <hollywoodb> mulder: OK, that's why... see if you can next time you reboot: go into the BIOS (it varies on different system, I believe on Dell it is F2 when the "Dell" logo shows)
[09:35] <drarem> what brings up the app manager again - like hitting ctrl-alt-del on windoze to cancel out a program?
[09:35] <hollywoodb> mulder: see if you can disable the sound card there... that'll disable the HDA Intel card and let the Audigy 2 take over
[09:35] <drarem> task manager
[09:36] <Lam_> F1, F2, F10, and DEL.  press those and you're guaranteed to never miss
[09:36] <Lam_> ;)
[09:36] <mulder> I did that for windows! I can reboot now and check if you want and come back after
[09:36] <Lam_> err. F10 is more windows. ignore that
[09:36] <mulder> give me 5 min Holly
[09:36] <hollywoodb> mulder: sure
[09:36] <mulder> Thank you
[09:37] <drarem> nm figured it out
[09:38] <kamui> h3sp4wn: I need a little more help, I can't get DRI working anymore
[09:39] <h3sp4wn> kamui: I am busy
[09:39] <kamui> h3sp4wn: thats ok, illl see what I can do own my own
[09:42] <blackvd> just did a fresh install of Kubuntu 6.10 on a compaq v500z with broadcom wireless card which doesnt work. found a few forums with info on getting them to work but all the info seemed to be out dated. is there an easy way to get this working?
[09:42] <amik> in kubuntu 6.10, how do I add a wireless network to KNetworkManager?
[09:44] <sorush20> hi can anyone here see this video http://www.berghaus.com/our_people/berghaus_team/leo_houlding_hi.asx
[09:45] <funkyou> why needs the user-manager applet in systemsettings the package "kde-guidance-powermanager" installed? this is weird...
[09:45] <manuela> i am new to kubuntu and i am looking for an xorg-ati driver
[09:45] <georgeb> !ati | manuela
[09:45] <ubotu> manuela: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:45] <hollywoodb> sorush20: kaffiene plays it, I haven't done anything special except install w32codecs
[09:46] <manuela> thanks georgeb
[09:46] <georgeb> manuela: np
[09:46] <amik> anyone know in kubuntu 6.10, how do I add a wireless network to KNetworkManager?
[09:47] <manuela> georgeb:  ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5e6f
[09:47] <manuela> do you think i can use the closed source driver from ati ?
[09:48] <mulder> Back Holly. No option to change sound in the bios!
[09:48] <hollywoodb> mulder: OK, then check this out: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/Multisounds/
[09:48] <hollywoodb> mulder: it'll tell you how to change the default alsa card
[09:49] <hollywoodb> mulder: chances are the Intel card is number 0 and the audigy is number 1
[09:49] <kamui> I've upgrade successfully now, but I can't get acceleration working with fglrx.  I've checked and I have the module for my kernel loaded (it appears in lsmod), I've also got X to start using teh fglrx driver.  but fglrxinfo says mesa indirect still, and when I check the logs it says failed to initialize dri, (could be missing or broken kernel module)  Im not sure what to do next
[09:49] <trappist> mulder: asoundconf list <-- that'll list your sound cards.  pick the one you want, and asoundconf set-default-card <string from the list>
[09:49] <mulder> ok I am trying your guide :-)
[09:49] <mulder> and will let you know.
[09:50] <hollywoodb> mulder: try as trappist says as well, although I haven't used that method myself
[09:50] <sledge_at_work> kamui: Disable Composite in your xorg.conf
[09:51] <sledge_at_work> kamui: Section "Extensions"
[09:51] <sledge_at_work> kamui:        Option  "Composite" "Disable"
[09:51] <sledge_at_work> kamui:EndSection
[09:51] <mulder> trappist, I type it in the command?
[09:51] <sledge_at_work> kamui: add that to the end of xorg.conf
[09:52] <sephyria> hey
[09:52] <sephyria> does anyone have problems with the DCOPserver on KDM start?
[09:52] <sephyria> let alone know how to fix it
[09:52] <trappist> mulder: first command is 'asoundconf list'
[09:52] <sephyria> its a big error that happens a lots
[09:52] <der_steppenwolf> Hmm :-( Firefox 2 dies with flash 9
[09:53] <sephyria> but noone knows how to fix it online
[09:53] <skreet> Anyone ever had a problem where they have to kdm restart before their GUI will start (on every boot)
[09:53] <mulder> ok after your command Trappist, I have Intel, U0x46d0x8d9, and Audigy 2
[09:53] <der_steppenwolf> any other ideas?
[09:53] <trappist> mulder: which card do you want to be the default?
[09:53] <trappist> mulder: (you have 3 sound cards?!)
[09:54] <mulder> Audigy damn it, audigyyyyyyyyyyyy :-)
[09:54] <skreet> mulder: disable the other cards.
[09:54] <der_steppenwolf> hmm, i suspect the problem has to do with my video card, sorry...
[09:54] <sephyria> skreet: i got something like that but my DCOPserver fails
[09:54] <trappist> mulder: there's a space in it?  it's literally "Audigy 2"?
[09:54] <mulder> Guess I am unique! How can i disable them?
[09:54] <mulder> no space
[09:54] <mulder> Audigy2
[09:54] <sephyria> i tried sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[09:54] <sephyria> same thing
[09:54] <skreet> mulder: Take them out, configure the onboard to be disabled in the bios
[09:54] <trappist> mulder: you could disable them in the bios, but don't bother - say asoundconf set-default-card Audigy2
[09:55] <skreet> sephyria: I have to ctrl-alt-f1 restart it, but then it works fine.
[09:55] <trappist> mulder: if that doesn't work, *then* try disabling them in the bios
[09:55] <sephyria> oh
[09:55] <skreet> sephyria: Try an apt-get update, apt-get upgrade, see if it helps
[09:55] <sephyria> i did
[09:55] <mulder> typed
[09:55] <sorush20> thanks hollywood
[09:55] <sorush20> hollywoodb
[09:55] <sephyria> ill try agin tho
[09:55] <skreet> trappist: No reason not to disable them correctly, more system resources, less chance of conflict
[09:55] <trappist> mulder: keep in mind Audigy2 is case sensitive, not the same as audigy2
[09:56] <skreet> Case sensitivity = annoyinig
[09:56] <skreet> annoying*
[09:56] <skreet> :D
[09:56] <mulder> I typed Audigy2
[09:56] <dave_> hey, i have a really odd mishap with OpenOffice
[09:56] <trappist> skreet: this method was put together because a lot of people (apparently) have reasons not to do that, like they use the other card in windows or something
[09:56] <mulder> what shoud I do next?
[09:56] <mulder> should sorry
[09:56] <trappist> mulder: play sounds I guess
[09:56] <dave_> for some reason, the menus are all in greek letters
[09:56] <skreet> trappist: I understand :)
[09:56] <dave_> I guess I can sort of make them out, but i'd really like english menus
[09:57] <dave_> plus, this is only a problem for OpenOffice
[09:57] <skreet> dave_: Wierd. Check OO config files for locale, I guess..
[09:57] <skreet> dave_: Sorry, that's about as much as I know :(
[09:57] <mulder> the audigy is not displayed in the audio device select menu in the system settings
[09:57] <mulder> only in ther midi device one
[09:58] <trappist> mulder: yeah I wouldn't use that.  the kde systemsettings kinda sucks with multiple sound cards.
[09:58] <dave_> well, thanks for what you did know
[09:58] <dave_> where can i find the config files?
[09:58] <_jessica> oi
[09:58] <mulder> no sound at all now :-9
[09:58] <_jessica> alguem ai
[09:58] <dave_> i'm still adjusting to linux
[09:58] <skreet> dave_: No rightly certain, hang on.
[09:58] <_jessica> te alguem que fale portugues ai
[09:59] <trappist> mulder: and what card do you have the speakers plugged into
[09:59] <mulder> yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah it works!
[09:59] <trappist> :)
[09:59] <dave_> i'm also considering uninstalling and reinstalling openoffice again
[09:59] <skreet> dave_: Sorry, can't find it.. try #openoffice
[10:00] <mulder> Thanks dude...thansl so much!
[10:00] <dave_> alright, good idea
[10:00] <dave_> thank you
[10:00] <skreet> dave_: This isn't windows, that isn't usually a solution.
[10:00] <dave_> hmm, damn
[10:00] <skreet> dave_: :)
[10:00] <skreet> dave_: Sometimes easier, sometimes harder
[10:00] <mulder> Depeche Mode in all it's glory!
[10:00] <dave_> one real quick question... how do i join other irc channels?
[10:00] <trappist> mulder: glad it worked :)  (I wrote asoundconf list, so I'm double happy)
[10:00] <skreet> dave_: looks like #openoffice isn't the right channel...
[10:00] <dave_> EEP
[10:00] <skreet> dave_: irc join = /join
[10:00] <skreet> h/o
[10:01] <cedd> here i have my cpu partitioned in raid0 succesfully, i created a /boot B ext3 in sda outside the raid... when i point grub where to install the bootloader i receive this... executing grub-install (/dev/sda) failed.. this is a fatal error
[10:01] <Jymmm> Fresh install; tried to install ntop, wanted root, reset root pw; Now can't use ADD/REMOVE programs "SU encounter an error"; help?!
[10:01] <mulder> Wonderful stuff man...You have my absolute gratitude!
[10:01] <der_steppenwolf> problem with flash solved... If someone wants to know just tell me
[10:01] <mulder> is there some sort of mixer for it?
[10:02] <dave_> well, i guess i'm gonna try reinstalling it right quick anyways
[10:02] <gnomefreak> Jymmm: thats one reason why setting up su is not recommended please /msg ubotu root    and read the part about setting sudo back up
[10:02] <kamui> thanks sledge_at_work
[10:02] <skreet> dave_: How did you install it?
[10:03] <sledge_at_work> kamui: no problem
[10:03] <dave_> it came with the install
[10:03] <Jymmm> gnomefreak: I tried running as SUDO, per these instructions, it wanted root --->  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ntop
[10:03] <dave_> then i remember i tried saving a file as a .doc
[10:03] <Jymmm> s/running/installing/
[10:03] <dave_> and then... walla, all greek menus
[10:03] <gnomefreak> Jymmm: once su is set up sudo no longer is.
[10:03] <gnomefreak> !root | Jymmm
[10:03] <ubotu> Jymmm: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:03] <dave_> phi iota lambda eta for file
[10:03] <skreet> dave_: Neat.
[10:03] <dave_> so on
[10:04] <gnomefreak> on that page is how to reverse it
[10:04] <dave_> in fact, it might be kinda fun to train myself to read it
[10:04] <cedd> any1 can give me a hand here
[10:04] <dave_> confuse everyone else
[10:04] <dave_> hmm
[10:04] <dave_> yea i think i'm just gonna leave it
[10:04] <skreet> dave_: In Adept, see if openoffice.org-l10n-el is installed
[10:04] <Jymmm> gnomefreak: I understand, what i'm saying is that BEFORE I reset root, following those instructions it wouldn't install via SUDO, had to be root.
[10:04] <skreet> Thats the Greek Language package
[10:04] <dave_> how do i do that?
[10:05] <skreet> open Adept
[10:05] <sorush20> I can not view the my date on the clock on kubuntu
[10:05] <skreet> search for openoffice
[10:05] <mulder> Trappist/Holly: any good mixer for the audigy?
[10:05] <skreet> sorush20: right click configure clock .. check date
[10:05] <gnomefreak> Jymmm: that sounds like you were not part of the group but if you installed it you should have been automaticly added.
[10:06] <dave_> no, the greek one isnt installed, only the english one
[10:06] <skreet> ...
[10:06] <skreet> Wow.
[10:06] <sorush20> skreet: that is not working
[10:06] <skreet> sorush20: What are you seeing?
[10:06] <Jymmm> gnomefreak Weird huh. Yeah, It asked me for my user during install.
[10:06] <sorush20> skreet: just the clock
[10:06] <skreet> skreet: Odd, what version of KDE?
[10:06] <sorush20> hhmmss
[10:06] <cedd> here i have my cpu partitioned in raid0 succesfully, i created a /boot B ext3 in sda outside the raid... when i point grub where to install the bootloader i receive this... executing grub-install (/dev/sda) failed.. this is a fatal error
[10:06] <sorush20> edgy
[10:07] <skreet> dave_: Open a Konsole and type 'sudo dpkg --reconfigure openoffice.org'
[10:08] <sorush20> kde 3.5.5
[10:08] <skreet> sorush20: Sorry, not sure..
[10:08] <trappist> mulder: not specifically for the audigy, but try aumix
[10:08] <dave_> reconfigure doesnt work as an option
[10:08] <dave_> deally
[10:08] <skreet> .. --configure?
[10:08] <skreet> i cant remember..
[10:09] <skreet> hang on
[10:09] <Jymmm> gnomefreak: Ok, so disabling root, will reenable sudo?
[10:09] <gnomefreak> Jymmm: yes
[10:09] <skreet> anone remember how to make the windows key open the KDE Menu
[10:09] <Jymmm> gnomefreak k, let me give it a shot.
[10:09] <mulder> alsamixer did the trick :-)
[10:09] <amik> anyone know in kubuntu 6.10, how do I add a wireless network to KNetworkManager?
[10:09] <mulder> Yeah yeah yeahhhhhh
[10:09] <cedd> where can i get support
[10:09] <mulder> Ah man! That is just orgasmic!
[10:10] <skreet> dave_: Yes, it's --configure
[10:11] <trappist> mulder: cheer up man it's not that bad
[10:11] <mulder> now only thing left is logitech webcam and canon printer and I am done! :-)
[10:11] <dave_> then it tells me openoffice.org is already installed and configured
[10:11] <Jymmm> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:11] <markelhas> i've some problems in my kubuntu
[10:11] <mulder> nope it is all that good dude!
[10:11] <markelhas> missing some tools in system settings
[10:11] <markelhas> plz help me out
[10:12] <markelhas> for example missing display settings
[10:12] <morbid88> hey guys.I'm having a problem with my keyboard layouts. Anyone here know how to manage multiple languages?
[10:13] <skreet> dave_: Sorry, I guess I'm out of ideas..
[10:13] <dave_> well, thanks for your time anyways
[10:13] <markelhas> ppl plz help me out
[10:14] <skreet> dave_:  No problem, good luck! :D Maybe post on the oo.o forum?
[10:14] <dave_> i'll probably try messing around with it some more
[10:14] <markelhas> how can i fix it?
[10:14] <mulder> Guys you are awesome. Great job helping people, really happy to be using Kubuntu!
[10:14] <dave_> thats probably a good idea
[10:14] <dave_> or maybe i can search there or something
[10:14] <amik> anyone?
[10:14] <markelhas> amik: can u help me out?
[10:15] <amik> I'm looking for help myself... no one is answering :-(
[10:15] <markelhas> amik: missing some tools in system settings
[10:15] <dave_> oh wait, now it's normal for some reason
[10:15] <markelhas> amik: what's your problem
[10:15] <dave_> ....whatever i guess i'm happy
[10:15] <amik> can't get a wireless connection working
[10:15] <cedd> i have my hds partitioned in raid0 succesfully on a fresh edgy installation, i created a /boot B ext3 in sda outside the raid...everything installed correctly until the bootloader, when i point grub where to install the bootloader witch is /dev/sda i receive this error msg... executing grub-install (/dev/sda) failed.. this is a fatal error
[10:15] <dave_> thank you for your magical help whoever did that
[10:16] <morbid88> amik, what card are you using?
[10:16] <dave_> back to working on my philosophy paper
[10:16] <markelhas> so no experts in system settings restore :(
[10:16] <cedd> any1 knows how to correct that
[10:16] <cedd> ?
[10:16] <amik> morbid88: I'm using a USB adapter. Wireless Assistant finds the network, but fails to connect. KNetworkManager doesn't show any networks...
[10:16] <markelhas> firts time that i don't have help :P
[10:17] <JymmmEMC> gnomefreak: Thanks. Somehow I'm now allowed todo things I wasn't initially allowed to using sudo; guess just a quirk during install.
[10:17] <markelhas> amik: try to put your router without security control
[10:17] <trappist> markelhas: try kcontrol
[10:17] <amik> I started with WPA, but now I've lowered it to basic WEP. still nothing.
[10:17] <markelhas> trappist: already did that, missing tools
[10:17] <trappist> markelhas: also, does 'kcmshell displayconfig' work?
[10:17] <sorush20> how do I set time zone appropriately to london uk system wide?
[10:18] <markelhas> trappist: didn't try
[10:18] <morbid88> amik: I never maned with knetworkmanager. I keep going into command line. Are you using WEP?
[10:18] <amik> morbid88: I am temporarily, though I hope once it works I can get back to WPA
[10:18] <morbid88> have you tried #sudo iwconfig essid NETWORK_NAME key s:ASCII_KEY
[10:18] <der_steppenwolf> how can i send a patch to the mantainer of the firefox package?
[10:18] <markelhas> trappist: got error on shell
[10:18] <morbid88> or if you're using HEX key then drop the s:
[10:18] <markelhas> trappist: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[10:19] <amik> the wiki/forums say to try KNetworkManager for WPA... but there's no menu option to add a network (as the docs claim)
[10:19] <trappist> markelhas: you can ignore that - is that all that happens?
[10:19] <markelhas> trappist: ok ok, but i only try now
[10:19] <morbid88> amik: I haven't managed to set it up for WPA myself. It was hard enough getting it to go on WEP, and I still acn't get it to connect aut.
[10:19] <markelhas> trappist: i'm new in linux
[10:20] <markelhas> trappist: trying to config my kubuntu to leave xp forever
[10:20] <trappist> markelhas: does anything happen, besides that error, when you do 'kcmshell displayconfig'
[10:21] <flake> how do i find out where something is - I run something but it isn't in my menu
[10:21] <markelhas> trappist: says that faild to open device
[10:21] <flake> i want to remove it so i can run it locally] 
[10:21] <flake> it is a 3rd party app
[10:21] <ypsila> flake: find
[10:21] <mulder> Trappist, sorry dude. What is the command to choose the audigy 2 card as default?
[10:21] <icheyne> hi all, anyone know of a good podcatcher (podcast aggregator)?
[10:21] <flake> ah
[10:21] <markelhas> trappist: but there are other tools missing
[10:21] <mulder> I need to write it down
[10:22] <trappist> mulder: asoundconf set-default-card Audigy2
[10:22] <markelhas> trappist: kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'displayconfig'.
[10:22] <amik> morbid: what are the placeholders and what the real values in iwconfig? it says 'unrecognised wireless request'
[10:22] <flake> the find just says no such file or directory
[10:22] <mulder> and the one to list the cards?
[10:22] <markelhas> trappist: is any away to restore the os, leaving configuration that i have?
[10:23] <B-Minus> is konqueror i have to click on each file only ONCE to open it, can I chance it to doubleclick like in windows ?
[10:23] <ypsila> flake: sorry I was in an other channel and did't follow all
[10:23] <trappist> markelhas: try this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kde-guidance app-install-data
[10:23] <ypsila> B-Minus:  you can
[10:23] <B-Minus> ypsila: i havent found it in the options
[10:24] <vandenoever> i'm wondering where the qt3 'assistant' went, both assistant and assistant-qt4 are qt4
[10:24] <ypsila> B-Minus: I cannot really help you because I do use a german version, but it should be something in settings
[10:24] <flake> i know if i'm in the directory i have to do  ./ to run a module, but this module i forgot how i got it to be in my path
[10:24] <B-Minus> hmmm
[10:24] <B-Minus> ok im gonna check again
[10:25] <morbid88> anyone here using multiple languages? I'm haing trouble with the keyboard shortcuts.
[10:25] <ypsila> flake: searched for it via k-menu?
[10:25] <mentok> flake: where is the module?
[10:26] <flake> it's fbc
[10:26] <flake> (freebasic)
[10:26] <ypsila> uhhhhhhh
[10:26] <mentok> flake: is that the directory?
[10:26] <flake> i'm trying to find where that module is
[10:26] <markelhas> trappist: should i restart?
[10:27] <trappist> markelhas: no
[10:27] <flake> i unrar'ed or bz2'd a newer one to my home folder
[10:27] <ypsila> flake: search for it
[10:27] <mentok> flake: did you try whereis fbc to see if it is in your path?
[10:28] <flake> that works, thanks
[10:28] <mentok> np
[10:28] <ypsila> gna
[10:29] <ubuntu> salut
[10:29] <ypsila> bon soir
[10:29] <ypsila> moin
[10:29] <ypsila> good evening
[10:29] <ubuntu> peut'on m'aider pour installer grub
[10:29] <JymmmEMC> oh wth... restarted X server and now in System Settings | Display | Administrative Mode, the pw dialog box never pops up  =(
[10:30] <ypsila> ubuntu: #kubuntu-fr ?
[10:30] <ubuntu> ypsila merci
[10:31] <ypsila> ubuntu: pas de quoi
[10:31] <ubuntu>  <ypsila> et pour ubuntu.fr
[10:32] <ypsila> ubuntu: ici on parle anglais, mais moi aussi je prfre ma langue maternele :-)
[10:32] <markelhas> trappist: 100%
[10:32] <markelhas> trappist: thank you very much
[10:32] <trappist> markelhas: awesome
[10:32] <markelhas> trappist: missing tools there
[10:33] <markelhas> trappist: your the man
[10:33] <ypsila> markelhas: you are female
[10:33] <ypsila> ?
[10:33] <markelhas> trappist: this is impressive always someone helping out
[10:33] <markelhas> ypsila: what?
[10:33] <amik_> morbid88: I think it's working! thanx! now off to try to figure out WPA... btw what's the difference between what iwconfig,system settings, knetworkmanager, and wireless assistant do?
[10:34] <ypsila> markelhas:  I just wondered whether you are not "man"
[10:35] <trappist> ypsila: "you are the man" is a US idiom meaning "you are pretty OK"
[10:35] <ypsila> male
[10:35] <markelhas> ypsila: when i say your are the man, u should read it like that.
[10:35] <ypsila> trappist: thx
[10:36] <ypsila> markelhas:  us-english is not my motherlanguage so pls be a little patient or simply understanding ;-)
[10:36] <markelhas> ypsila: pretty !?!?!?
[10:36] <markelhas> ypsila: np i'm not us also
[10:36] <ypsila> markelhas:  I didn't use "pretty"
[10:37] <markelhas> ypsila: if it was i my mother language should be like: "s o maior!"
[10:38] <ypsila> markelhas: portugais as language?
[10:39] <JymmmEMC> System Settings Display hangs when clicking Administrator mode (no pw dialog box appears), any ideas?
[10:40] <ypsila> markelhas: a language I can read nothing more
[10:40] <trappist> JymmmEMC: if you run kcmshell displayconfig from the command line and do that, does it spit an error to the console?
[10:40] <JymmmEMC> trappist: trying now...
[10:40] <markelhas> ypsila: Yap Portugus
[10:41] <ypsila> markelhas:  I've never been there, but had the luck to stay a few weeks in Brazil
[10:42] <JymmmEMC> trappist: Yes,
[10:42] <JymmmEMC> $ kcmshell displayconfig
[10:42] <JymmmEMC> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16
[10:42] <markelhas> ypsila: Portugal it's also very nice
[10:43] <trappist> JymmmEMC: that can be ignored
[10:43] <JymmmEMC> trappist: Display still appears, but no pw dialog box does.
[10:43] <ypsila> markelhas:  no doubt about it, but I've never had the chance to get there
[10:44] <trappist> JymmmEMC: your password has probably been cached from the last time you tried
[10:44] <JymmmEMC> trappist: This worked before I restarted X
[10:45] <ubuntu_> I've got some xorg problems too
[10:45] <JymmmEMC> trappist: Suggestion?
[10:46] <trappist> JymmmEMC: did you say it locked up this time too, without presenting a password dialong, and without spitting out an error (other than the bad device one, which you can ignore)?
[10:46] <JymmmEMC> trappist: correct
[10:46] <ypsila> uuuhhhhhhhhhh
[10:46] <trappist> JymmmEMC: that's a tough one.
[10:47] <trappist> JymmmEMC: are you on dapper or edgy?
[10:48] <ypsila> trappist: are you italian?
[10:48] <trappist> ypsila: yes, but not in italy
[10:49] <ypsila> trappist: I saw, that you are probably not in italy ;-)
[10:49] <JymmmEMC> trappist: I suspect dapper 6.06.1
[10:49] <ypsila> suspect?
[10:50] <trappist> JymmmEMC: there have been a lot of improvements to systemsettings in edgy.  maybe this could be your excuse to upgrade :)
[10:50] <JymmmEMC> ypsila: That is what I wrote on the cd
[10:50] <ypsila> Jymmm: find it out would be better
[10:50] <JymmmEMC> ypsila: Sure, how? uname -a didn't tell me much
[10:50] <Electrolyte> Anyone know what this error Konqueror is giving me: "Cound not find mime type applicat/octet/-stream"?
[10:50] <trappist> JymmmEMC: lsb_release -a
[10:50] <Electrolyte> application*
[10:51] <Electrolyte> application/octet-stream* rather.
[10:51] <JymmmEMC> trappist:  LOL, I *JUST* installed this a few hours ago.  LOL
[10:51] <trappist> Electrolyte: is it octet/-stream, or octet-stream?
[10:51] <Electrolyte> octet-steam
[10:51] <Electrolyte> steam**
[10:51] <Electrolyte> STREAM**
[10:51] <Electrolyte> Curse my typing!
[10:51] <JymmmEMC> $ kcmshell displayconfig
[10:51] <JymmmEMC> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16
[10:51] <ypsila> Jymmm: the latest ist 6.10 called edgy eft
[10:51] <JymmmEMC> ooops
[10:51] <trappist> Electrolyte: you get that when you do what?
[10:51] <Electrolyte> Launch Konqueror.
[10:52] <JymmmEMC> trappist  Ubuntu 6.06.1 LTS
[10:52] <trappist> Electrolyte: oh wow.  I remember seeing that like WAY back in the day, before I ever even used ubuntu.  I don't remember what it was.
[10:52] <Electrolyte> All i did was change some file associations and bang - started to get it.
[10:52] <trappist> JymmmEMC: if you just installed, you have nothing to lose by upgrading (or better yet, installing edgy from scratch)!
[10:53] <trappist> Electrolyte: ah, that sounds about right.
[10:53] <Electrolyte> Any way to fix it?
[10:53] <trappist> Electrolyte: I don't know where konqueror keeps that info, lemme see if I can find it
[10:53] <ypsila> Jymmm: not a big problem, 6 stands for the year and the next number ist the month, so you use a distribution dated june this year
[10:53] <Electrolyte> trappist - Thanks :)
[10:53] <JymmmEMC> trappist: from scratch? You mean a virgin install of latest kubuntu?
[10:53] <ypsila> pfffffffff  upgrading
[10:54] <trappist> JymmmEMC: sure, why not?
[10:54] <ypsila> Jymmm: I think that is what trappist means
[10:54] <ypsila> Jymmm: nothing to loose in your case
[10:54] <JymmmEMC> trappist:  No biggy, was just asking if that's what you meant, or just upgrading what I have already.
[10:54] <JymmmEMC> ypsila: Yeah, I understnad =)
[10:55] <trappist> Electrolyte: do you have anything in ~/.kde/share/mimelnk ?
[10:55] <ubuntu_> here's the scenario:  I went to update my nvidia driver (nvidia-GeForce FX 5600 Ultra).    I thought I mended my 'xorg.conf' file well enough.   I went to reboot thinking it would reload.  I get a server error on reboot.  I rebooted and added the edgy live disc w/ safe graphics mode.   I get an explanation about aperture levels in agpgart (reboot w/ iommu=memaper=2) ...... question: Is there a way to correct this from a live disc?
[10:55] <trappist> JymmmEMC: you could go either way, but things will be smoother if you install from scratch
[10:55] <Electrolyte> trappist - nothing, according to nano.
[10:55] <trappist> ubuntu_: what needs correcting?  boot options or xorg.conf?
[10:56] <Electrolyte> Oh wait.
[10:56] <Electrolyte> Got the "I" wrong.
[10:56] <trappist> Electrolyte: well, if you can figure out where konqueror (or kde) stores its file associations, maybe you can look for octet-stream and find the problem - but I dunno where it is
[10:56] <JymmmEMC> Ok, then that leads to another question... When I tried booting up from a different (PCI instead of onboard) video card, it would hang during boot. It's an older ATI AIW card (dont care about the TV part, it just hads higher resolution than the onboard 800x600 video) any way to pass params to get it to see the older video card?
[10:56] <Electrolyte> application and audio is in there.
[10:56] <ubuntu_> I'm not sure, I'm greener than a christmas tree
[10:56] <ypsila> michael: kennst Du #kubuntu-de?
[10:57] <Electrolyte> trappist - application and audio directory in there.
[10:57] <trappist> JymmmEMC: I think that's a BIOS option
[10:57] <Electrolyte> And I see octet-stream.desktop in /application/
[10:57] <trappist> Electrolyte: what's in the application directory
[10:57] <trappist> yep :)
[10:57] <trappist> kill it
[10:57] <Electrolyte> Worked :)
[10:57] <Electrolyte> Thanks :)
[10:57] <trappist> rockin
[10:57] <ubuntu_> I tried to edit the xorg.conf while in it using the live disc, but I don't think I know how to save it properly.
[10:58] <trappist> ubuntu_: you have to mount your filesystem and be sure to edit the one on your hard drive, not the one in /etc/X11
[10:58] <JymmmEMC> trappist: The bios automagically disables the onboard video when an ext video card is in place, but kubuntu will hang during boot. Same with Ubuntu, but Knoppix doens't have a problem with it.
[10:58] <ypsila> ubuntu_:  you can not do anything in live
[10:58] <eilker> are the installing directly kubuntu and instaling kde desktop on ubuntu same? do those use system resources same? or one is better than others?
[10:58] <JymmmEMC> trappist: neither does debian
[10:59] <trappist> JymmmEMC: ah I misunderstood the problem.  sorry, don't know the answer.
[10:59] <JymmmEMC> trappist:  np =)
[10:59] <JymmmEMC> trappist: Yeah, been looking for a cheap PCI video card w/ 64mb+ but are rare these days =)
[11:00] <Conan> I am having problems installing Kubuntu on my pc
[11:00] <ubuntu_> trap, could you help me mount the file system?
[11:01] <ypsila> Ubugtu: are you sure you even installed on hd?
[11:01] <ypsila> sorry
[11:01] <ubuntu_> nevermind, I shouldn't bother you all, I should be able to find it myself.  I'll look in the help file
[11:01] <ypsila> ubuntu_: are you sure you did install?
[11:02] <ypsila> ubuntu_: live cd does not mean install
[11:02] <ubuntu_> ypsila, no I'm not sure.   : /
[11:02] <ypsila> ubuntu_: what cd do you have? any idea?
[11:02] <ubuntu_> hey, I can get the live cd to boot me and get into the works to log onto the net and chat with you
[11:03] <ubuntu_> both, dapper and edgy
[11:03] <Jymmm> OMG... Want to muck with someone's eyes... let em run 800x600, then switch em to 1900x1400!  lol
[11:03] <ubuntu_> the system is edgy and the lvie cd is dapper
[11:03] <ypsila> ubuntu_: yes, of course, but that does not mean you installed it on your harddrive
[11:03] <ypsila> h?
[11:04] <ubuntu_> the file system on the hd is edgy and the live boot cd is dapper
[11:04] <ypsila> ubuntu_: when you boot without cd what comes up?
[11:05] <Jymmm> Curious... is edgy a LIVE CD too?
[11:05] <gnomefreak> Jymmm: yes has both live and alternate
[11:05] <ubuntu_> I get to the ubuntu splash screen then the system goes into like dos mode and tells me the xorg can't start due to an error
[11:05] <Jymmm> gnomefreak cool, ty.
[11:06] <ypsila> Jymmm: jepp
[11:06] <ubuntu_> the X server
[11:06] <Jymmm> So, only alternate isn't live?
[11:06] <Conan> I have live versions of both Kubuntu Dapper and Edgy but i cant get them to work on my pc
[11:06] <cntb> why so Conan ?
[11:06] <ypsila> see you
[11:06] <markelhas> ppl where can i see a list of the system settings tools
[11:07] <markelhas> cntb: hi
[11:07] <cntb> markelhas:  hi kde?
[11:07] <Conan> I am running XP buti cent get the cds to run... i restart my computer like it says and it does a XP boot
[11:07] <markelhas> cntb: yaps, i thinks some of them gone
[11:08] <markelhas> cntb: i was exploring that menu, and it's missing tools
[11:08] <cntb> markelhas: what possible reason for system settings tools to be gone
[11:09] <markelhas> cntb: some minutes ago i've resolved missing monitor & display and user management for example
[11:10] <markelhas> cntb: but i think that are missing others, so i need to see a list of it to check witch are missing
[11:10] <cntb> ah
[11:11] <TheGateKeeper_> markelhas: if you look on the wiki you will see a screen grab of system settings for edgy
[11:11] <markelhas> cntb: for example missing battery tool
[11:12] <markelhas> TheGateKeeper_: the wiki!
[11:12] <TheGateKeeper_> yes the (k)ubuntu wiki
[11:12] <cntb> http://wiki.kubuntu.org
[11:12] <markelhas> TheGateKeeper_: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu ?
[11:13] <markelhas> ok ok
[11:14] <TheGateKeeper_> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php
[11:15] <TheGateKeeper_> that's where I saw it lol
[11:18] <markelhas> TheGateKeeper_: missing power management only
[11:18] <markelhas> TheGateKeeper_: can u help me?
[11:20] <markelhas> cntb: any tip to resolve this?
[11:21] <TheGateKeeper_> markelhas: Run Command... kcontrol
[11:21] <TheGateKeeper_> that should have it
[11:22] <markelhas> TheGateKeeper_: nopes :(
[11:23] <Conan> I cant get Edgy or dapper to work on my computer
[11:23] <markelhas> TheGateKeeper_: some minutes ago a user gave me a apt-get command to restor the missing tools
[11:23] <markelhas> TheGateKeeper_: but power still missing
[11:24] <TheGateKeeper_> markelhas: well idk really as I don't use edgy, it's too problamatic for my liking
[11:25] <TheGateKeeper_> use the apt-get command to restore the missing tools
[11:25] <markelhas> TheGateKeeper_: whitch one do u use?
[11:27] <TheGateKeeper_> I use dapper at the moment, but possible not for too much longer
[11:27] <xnp> hi everybody new kubuntu user overhere
[11:28] <xnp> was wondering i heard that there are other repo's wich i can download additional packages is that correct
[11:28] <trappist> !repos | xnp
[11:28] <ubotu> xnp: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:28] <markelhas> TheGateKeeper_: but any reason ?
[11:28] <Hitstudent> hi
[11:30] <TheGateKeeper_> dapper is more stable than edgy, from what I can make out edgy seems to have a number of problems
[11:30] <Conan> U cant get Kubuntu Edgy to work on my Windows system...
[11:30] <Conan> *I
[11:31] <TheGateKeeper_> for instance open office is broken, there are fixes but to the best of my knowledge they have not come through on the updates
[11:31] <Conan> Well actually i cant get any of the Kubuntu or Ubuntu systems to work they wont boot from the disk
[11:31] <TheGateKeeper_> and there are other problems too
[11:32] <Hitstudent> about edgy - how should I modify xorg.xonf that keyboard layouts would change?
[11:32] <Hitstudent> by pressing ctrl+shift?
[11:33] <Hitstudent> default is alt+shift
[11:33] <jhutchins> kde keyboard shortcuts
[11:33] <Hitstudent> no, its not what I want
[11:34] <Hitstudent> there are only shift+ctrl
[11:34] <Hitstudent> in dapper everything was vary clear
[11:34] <Hitstudent> very
[11:35] <jhutchins> Yeah, well, in edgy the "Windows" key is a modifier only, on Mandriva it's also available as a unique key for App Menu or dead key.
[11:35] <jhutchins> So I know what you mean, but that's the only place I know to change things.
[11:36] <jhutchins> Unfortunately there are too many different keyboard mapping mechanisms - xorg.conf, xmodmap, kde...
[11:36] <jhutchins> It's hard to tell which one has the final say.
[11:39] <cntb> jhutchins: I personally an happy I can have windows shortkeys in kubuntu
[11:40] <cntb> for example I said alt f2 or ctrl alt d
[11:40] <cntb> now winlogo r and winlogo d is enough
[11:41] <cntb> shortcuts are good even when introduced in windows first
[11:42] <cntb> edgys beautiful feature is I can choose UNIX KDE MAC or windows behaviour. jhutchins. makes me feel free
[11:42] <skreet> How do you use Win+D, R in KDE?
[11:43] <bobesponja> hi all
[11:43] <cntb> hi
[11:43] <bobesponja> I'm trying to access my machine from another computer through samba but it asks me for a username and password
[11:43] <bobesponja> and none of my user work
[11:44] <bobesponja> how can I allow any user to connect from lan?
[11:45] <skreet> bobesponja: smbadd -u username, if i recall
[11:45] <skreet> doesn't auth against local users by default
[11:45] <skreet> or at all
[11:46] <fdoving> bobesponja: open konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole) and run 'sudo smbpasswd username' where username is the username you want to allow samba access.
[11:46] <skreet> fdoving, bobesponja: sorry, it's smbpasswd, he's right.. it's been a while
[11:46] <fdoving> bobesponja: or 'smbpasswd -a username' don't remember exactly.
[11:46] <bobesponja> fdoving: but on my previous debian install, the user didn't have to enter any username or password. Can't I get rid of the user/password dialogue?
[11:47] <skreet> it's in samba config..
[11:47] <skreet> security = share
[11:47] <skreet> i belive
[11:47] <bobesponja> ok thanx
[11:47] <fdoving> You can use kmenu -> run command 'kcmshell kcmsambaconf' to configure this.
[11:48] <fdoving> bobesponja: ^^
[11:48] <Lunar_Raven> does anyone know of a proxy scanner/finder for linux?
[11:48] <fdoving> Lunar_Raven: nmap.
[11:48] <Lunar_Raven> nmap.  Ok, I'll look at that.  Thanks
[11:48] <Lunar_Raven> !nmap
[11:48] <ubotu> nmap: The Network Mapper. In component main, is extra. Version 4.10-1 (edgy), package size 702 kB, installed size 2436 kB
[11:49] <bobesponja> fdoving: thanx for the tip, is it planed to add this module to kubuntu's "system settings"?
[11:50] <fdoving> bobesponja: not sure about the plans for the next release. I'm sure system settings will be improved somehow.
[11:53] <disko_dick> hello
[11:54] <disko_dick> i was wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction
[11:55] <Jymmm> <----- that way ----->
[11:55] <disko_dick> i just installed the xorg-driver-fglrx and fglrx-control packages
[11:55] <disko_dick> and now my radeon is under performing seriously
[11:56] <disko_dick> any ideas on why it is doing this ?
[11:59] <soulrider> hi everyone
[11:59] <soulrider> theres a file in myh ome folder
[11:59] <soulrider> with strange characters
[11:59] <soulrider> and it wont let me delete it
[11:59] <soulrider> not even if im root
[11:59] <soulrider> it sais it can tbe found
[12:00] <fdoving> soulrider: open konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole)
[12:00] <soulrider> opened it
[12:00] <fdoving> soulrider: 'rm -- filename'
[12:00] <soulrider> thats the thing
[12:00] <soulrider> i dont know what characters make the name up
[12:00] <soulrider> under console i see "?"
[12:01] <soulrider> and in konqueror i see squares
[12:01] <fdoving> ah. try to hit tab a few times.
[12:01] <soulrider> i did, but there are other files
[12:02] <soulrider> and i think it shows different chars everytime
[12:02] <fdoving> hmm.
[12:04] <smaggard> hello :D
[12:05] <disko_dick> hi
[12:05] <|jordan|> hi
[12:06] <|jordan|> can anyone help me?
[12:06] <|jordan|> ?
[12:07] <smaggard> hi
[12:07] <smaggard> whats your problemo?
[12:07] <|jordan|> not realy a problem
[12:07] <|jordan|> just a question
[12:07] <smaggard> mmk go for it
[12:08] <|jordan|> whats the difference between the DVD and CD Distros
[12:08] <|jordan|> cause 700mb and 3.96 GB
[12:08] <smaggard> the dvd allows you to burn 1 DVD and probably comes with a lot of packages on the DVD
[12:08] <Lam_> they're the same, except the DVD has a lot extra software on it in case you can't get an active internet connection or your internet connection is slow
[12:08] <|jordan|> so which is better?
[12:08] <|jordan|> CD or DVD?
[12:09] <smaggard> the cd is fine cuz everything on the DVD will be outdated in a few months anyways
[12:09] <fdoving> soulrider: sorry, kid woke up. use 'ls -li' the inode number will appear at the beginning of the line, before the filename. find the inode number of your mysterious file.
[12:09] <Lam_> personal preference so long as your internet connection is at least DSL
[12:09] <|jordan|> yeah im on a 2meg line
[12:09] <Lam_> get the cd then
[12:09] <|jordan|> im downloading the CD
[12:09] <|jordan|> i just cant stand SuSE
[12:09] <|jordan|> been using it for 6 months now
[12:09] <|jordan|> and i want away
[12:09] <smaggard> then i would download the cd and then install the packages with apt-get and it will download them when you need them and only the ones you want.
[12:10] <smaggard> suse has gone down the toilet
[12:10] <|jordan|> yeah
[12:10] <|jordan|> totally not what it used to be
[12:10] <smaggard> i used to like it before the whole getting in bed with novell thing
[12:10] <|jordan|> with its funny update thing with novell
[12:10] <disko_dick> can anyone help me with ati radeon driver issues ?
[12:10] <soulrider> got it
[12:10] <soulrider> now what should i do ?
[12:11] <soulrider> !ati
[12:11] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:11] <smaggard> yeah i have never downloaded a dvd iso for a distro
[12:11] <disko_dick> ubotu: yeah i did that
[12:11] <|jordan|> so any noticable changes ill notice?
[12:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yeah i did that - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:11] <smaggard> its kind of like... i have a 10mb download whats the point?
[12:11] <Lam_> ubotu: hi
[12:11] <ubotu> Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!
[12:12] <|jordan|> anything ill notice between ubuntu and SuSe?
[12:12] <smaggard> ubuntu will just be a lot better lol
[12:12] <fdoving> soulrider: then 'find . -inum putthenumberhere -exec mv {} magicfile \;'
[12:12] <smaggard> btw are you getting Kubuntu or ubuntu?