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bddebianHeya gang02:29
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juantaoHello. Do you know of any application that would help a spanish speaker learn english ?02:43
juantaoESL /GPL02:44
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highvoltageedubuntugirl: tell ogra glad to see that the 2nd cd as repo is kind of panning out :)06:45
edubuntugirlRighto, highvoltage!06:45
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ulinskiej #iosn07:48
ulinskieshit heheh07:48
ulinskiesowwy07:48
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kihaiHi guys. I need some help here: After upgrading to edgy with update-manager I got a faulty ltsp installation. sudo ltsp-build-client gave me: perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").10:02
kihaiLeaving `diversion of /etc/mtab to /etc/mtab.real by ltsp-client'10:02
kihai`/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list' -> `/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list.old'10:02
kihailn: creating symbolic link `/dev/fd' to `/proc/self/fd': File exists10:02
kihaierror: LTSP client installation ended abnormally10:02
kihaiAny help on this?10:02
Burgundaviakihai: I would try back later10:04
Burgundaviaall of our LTSP experts are currently at the developer summit, and it is 1am there10:04
kihaiI'm having a lot of people waiting for the clients to work again....10:05
Burgundaviaright10:05
kihaihmm, looks like bad luck then... :)10:06
Burgundaviatry the mailing list10:06
Burgundaviasorry I cannot be more help10:07
kihaiOK, I'll try to update the ltsp chroot again and if that doesn't work I will delete it and try to build it again. Does anyone know if the packages downloaded by ltsp-build-client will be saved so that I don't have to down them again?10:26
Kamping_Kaiserafaik not10:27
Kamping_Kaiserbut maybe they are saved in the chroot10:27
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kihaiJust tried it. They don't get saved. I'll have to download them again...10:38
Kamping_Kaiser:(10:38
cbx33anyone had any experience opening power supplies10:39
cbx33I have one with no screws10:39
cbx33and can't get it to open10:39
Kamping_Kaisernever seen one with no screws10:40
cbx33heheh10:41
cbx33well this one has no screws not even under stickey labels10:41
Kamping_Kaisercool. wish i could break it10:42
kihaiCan anyone help me with this error message from update-notifier: Error: Opening the cache (E:Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/de.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy-updates_Release -open (13 Permission denied), E: the package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.)10:45
kihaiWhen I open Synaptic, I don't see any errors or broken packages, though10:46
Kamping_Kaiserhm.10:47
Kamping_Kaiseri'm not sure.10:47
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kihai...and the ltsp-build-client failed, too, somehow. There'S an error about locale settings and it says that pxe is not configured. First the clients could find an operating system, then I changed the path of the linux image in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf. Now the clients boot up until the graphic bootscreen but then I get a lot of "syslogd: /var/log/... read only filesystem" errors...10:51
Kamping_Kaiserkihai, do you have 'ltsp-server' isntalled?10:54
kihaiyes10:55
kihaiI had edubuntu dapper with a working ltsp and did the upgrade to edgy. Then I deleted the chroot tree and rebuilt it again, but that failed because of the wrong locale settings10:56
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cbx33but i did a fresh install11:19
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kihaiI guess when this attempt fails as well, I'll do a clean install, too. It should be OK to just copy the home dirs and the passwd, group and shadow, shouldn't it?11:37
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cbx33hey LaserJock 11:54
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kihaiHi again! I hope someone can help me on this: After upgrading to edgy update-notifier tells me: Error: Opening the cache (Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/de.archive...edgy_Release - open(13: Permission denied) The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. 12:39
kihaiIs there a way to reinstall those apparently broken packages?12:39
kihaiI tried to rename the file, but after  a while update-notifier gave me the same error12:40
LaserJockhmm12:44
LaserJockI really don't have much of a clue there12:44
LaserJockhave you tried using a different mirror?12:44
kihaiYes, but to no avail...12:46
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azehi all01:41
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theresathe "gettingstarted" link on the edubuntu wiki doesn't work.... http://proto.edubuntu.org/gettingstarted01:52
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willvdlhttps://wiki.edubuntu.org/GettingStarted02:26
willvdlwoops wait a sec02:26
highvoltageproto.edubuntu.org is where the current website lived for a while02:30
highvoltagethe wiki pages is in seious need of update :)02:30
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jsgotangcohey02:32
highvoltagehey mr gotangco02:34
willvdlwhere is the gettingstarted node?02:35
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jsgotangcowehehehe02:36
highvoltagewillvdl: http://www.edubuntu.org/GettingStarted02:36
highvoltagejsgotangco: wow02:36
jsgotangcoive been saying that for 2 days already02:37
highvoltagejsgotangco: sorry, haven't been listening02:37
jsgotangcohighvoltage: i meant "wow"02:37
jsgotangcohehe02:37
willvdlah www, not wiki02:37
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highvoltagejsgotangco: aaah :)02:38
willvdlhighvoltage, familiar with autopackage?02:38
jsgotangcowillvdl: yuck?02:38
highvoltagewillvdl: nope02:39
willvdlyuck? why?02:39
highvoltageedubuntugirl: google autopackage02:39
jsgotangcohighvoltage: wow its 0.07/minute on landline02:39
edubuntugirlhighvoltage: Google found 'Autopackage : Easy Linux Software Installation', at http://autopackage.org/02:39
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jsgotangcohighvoltage: but 0.23 for mobile jeezz02:40
willvdljsgotangco, what service is this?02:40
willvdlsounds neat02:40
jsgotangcosipphone02:40
highvoltageautopackage doesn't seem to use dpkg as a backend :-/02:40
jsgotangconahh02:40
jsgotangcoits a bunch of bash scripts02:40
jsgotangcobut autopackage seems to get the favour of some upstream projects02:41
highvoltagewillvdl: I would suggest taking a look at the ubuntu packaging guide, and then using a debian package with gdebi or something similar02:41
willvdlthis is why I am curious02:42
highvoltagewillvdl: I'm currently working on a tool called 2-Pack, which will be a gdebi-like tool for .deb files02:42
willvdlhighvoltage, looking into this after our last discussion02:42
jsgotangcowillvdl: well for content providers who do not want to be package specific, autopackage seems to be a nice sell02:42
jsgotangcosince it will basically work on any distro02:42
highvoltagewillvdl: I'll send you a tuxlab cd next week, you could get it off the disc and investigate if you want02:42
willvdlawesome02:42
highvoltageyou can then get the latest xola, j-zee and 2pack from there02:43
willvdlexcellent02:43
willvdlj-zee?02:43
jsgotangcowillvdl: but its been criticised to be a bit of a mess and installing stuff where its not supposed to02:43
highvoltagej-zee tracks software usage, and makes sure that kids can only run one instance of gcompris, ktuberling, etc at a time02:43
willvdljsgotangco, hmmm, I'm tempted to tell people to produce rpm and dev and leave it there02:43
highvoltagej-zee is just a wrapper02:44
highvoltagebut it works well.02:44
willvdlhighvoltage, nice02:44
jsgotangcohighvoltage: that's pretty neat02:44
willvdlcan see where that's going02:44
willvdlall yours? or are you working on it with someone02:44
jsgotangcowillvdl: ive used it, it looks nice, but i dunno if its clean02:44
willvdljsgotangco, you mean autopackage no doubt02:45
jsgotangcowillvdl: yes02:45
highvoltagewillvdl: at the moment just me, there's some other stuff I'm working on too, but I'll open it up to wider people soon to get wider testing/feedback/contributions02:45
jsgotangcolike i said, some upstream projects who do not want to do specific pckages seem to like it02:46
willvdlthe "Smart" board people are working on linux support02:46
willvdlhttp://www.smarttech.com/support/software/linux.asp02:46
willvdlwhich is where I saw it02:46
jsgotangcoyeah02:46
jsgotangcoeven Xara has an autopackage listed02:46
willvdlhighvoltage, that's something I'd like to play with too (if there's ever time)02:47
willvdlhmm, food for thought02:47
highvoltagecool. does the schools you work with have smartboards?02:47
highvoltagebtw, anyone know if a quad-opteron machine will work with a 686-smp kernel?02:47
willvdlhighvoltage, smart are on of the consortium members02:49
willvdlthey're on HP, Cisco and M$ consortiums02:50
highvoltageaaah02:50
willvdlbut have really done only a bit on NEPAD02:50
willvdlthey supplied Khanya02:50
willvdlhighvoltage, I thought the 686 kernel had smp built in? 02:51
highvoltagewillvdl: it does02:51
highvoltagewillvdl: but will it support all the cores in an AMD?02:51
willvdlwhy would there be a 686-smp kernel as well then?02:52
highvoltageoh, there isn't :)02:52
highvoltagethe -generic kernel /is/ the 686-smp kernel :)02:52
willvdlah...sigh, only ever had a K6 to play with02:52
highvoltageI could've just said the -generic kernel, but I'm being explicit02:52
willvdlthat noisy thing that used to sit on my tsf desk02:52
highvoltagebecause 686 will work on it, but I'd like to know if I can use all cores without installing a special kernel for it02:53
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highvoltagewillvdl: aaah02:53
willvdlask Jason02:53
willvdlI think he has one02:53
highvoltagewillvdl: I'm interested in quad opteron servers for the schools, they should perform quite well as ltsp servers02:53
highvoltageI had a K6 *ages* ago. It felt so fast the day I bought it... that was probably the one chip I owned that got obsolete the fastest.02:54
highvoltage(not like my 386 that I used for 5 years)02:54
willvdlthe Sun machines he was given for freedom toaster I think have quad opterons02:55
willvdlwhat's the cost benefit like?02:55
willvdlsorry K702:55
highvoltageI think those that jason has are dual opterons03:00
willvdlhmm, probably03:00
highvoltagewillvdl: I haven't looked at the prices yet, but apparently they are coming down fast, I think they're still slightly more expensive than the Intel servers we use03:00
highvoltagebut the performance should be remarkably better.03:00
highvoltage(if you can use all the cpus/cores properly)03:01
willvdlas long as they can handle the environment... heat etc.03:01
willvdlhow many seats you want to drive off of it?03:01
highvoltagethis isn't for a specific project, I'm just wondering, I actually need to buy myself a new machine and I thought of getting a quad-opteron to play with, and then investigate it as our new standard server03:02
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kihaiCould anybody help me? I just made a fresh edgy edubuntu install and after I booted the first client, the next one doesn't receive a dhcp offer, although the dhcp server is running03:44
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bddebianHeya04:18
azehey you04:18
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stgrabernixternal: ping04:44
nixternalpongers04:44
stgrabercan you come on 5000 ? I just bought an USB headset and I absolutely don't know if my mic volume is correct04:45
nixternallemme boot up my voip box04:45
nixternalok, it says im connected to 500004:49
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migihello04:49
stgraberok04:50
nixternaltalk04:50
nixternali can hear you, you need to tweak some settings..it sounds like a lot of bass, or echo yes04:50
nixternalstill some echo04:52
stgraberok, I hope that's cause of the room I'm currently in, it's a quite small room04:52
nixternali wish there was a way that you could mute and umute when you use the mic04:52
nixternalstgraber: thats exactly what it sounded like..like you were in a small room04:53
nixternalmaybe move the mic closer to you?04:53
nixternalbig difference04:53
stgraberI'm in my room, with a lot more space :)04:53
nixternalhehe04:53
nixternaldoes that mic have a mute button on it?04:53
stgraberno, only a volume changer thing that doesn't work :)04:54
nixternalhehe04:54
stgraberand a led that's flickering all the time (ugly blue led)04:54
nixternalit seems whenever there is an open mic on the network, there is a crackling sound04:54
nixternalblue is not ugly ;)04:54
stgrabermine is muted04:54
nixternalyou disconnected04:55
nixternalyou are back04:55
stgraberyes04:55
stgraberstill these crackling sounds ?04:55
nixternalnope04:55
stgraberand now ?04:55
nixternalnope04:56
nixternali don't hear anything04:56
nixternala very slight high pitched sound, but nothing that would distrub a conference04:56
nixternaland i only hear that because of the network silence04:56
stgrabergood, but I didn't change anything :)04:56
nixternalare you still muted?04:57
stgraberyes04:57
nixternali hear no talking at all04:57
nixternaloh ok04:57
nixternalnow i hear you04:57
nixternalthat mic picks up everything..i hear you breathing04:57
stgraberyes, good thing that means I'm still alive :)04:58
nixternalyou sounded good there, however i couldn't pick up what you were saying...very strong accent, or you were speaking a language other than english ;)04:58
nixternalhahahahahhahaha04:58
stgraberhehe :)04:58
nixternali can barely understand english as it is04:58
stgraberMy english prononciation isn't good at all, I got some frenglish speakers and then that's hard to learn a good one :)04:59
nixternallol05:00
nixternalok, i knew it was french...05:00
nixternali disconnected...i need to go and vote for some more idiots to run this oh so great country ;)05:00
stgraber:)05:02
stgraberbtw, I also disconnected : "Your laptop is out of power and will shutdown now"05:02
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kihaiHi guys! Any LTSP experts around???05:56
cbx33there is at least one05:58
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kihaiOK, does anyone know what could cause my prob with the dhcpd of ltsp? The server is running and I can boot up one client. When I try to boot the next client, it doesn't receive an IP address from the dhcp server. Everything is freshly installed06:04
kihai...I'm using edgy06:04
azenuxthere's something in the log ?06:07
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kihaiAhem, in which log should I look? in /var/log/messages I don't find anything. Or do I have to look in the chroot logs?06:09
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highvoltagerunning out of memory--06:11
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azenuxkihai both06:12
cbx33-gilberthey highvoltage 06:13
highvoltagehey cbx33-gilbert 06:17
highvoltagegilbert?06:18
cbx33-gilbertheh06:19
cbx33-gilbertIt looks like i may have found out what causes my sleepiness06:19
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cbx33-gilbertit's called Gilberts Syndrome06:26
highvoltagecbx33-gilbert: oh? what's that?06:46
highvoltageedubuntugirl: google for gilberts syndrome06:46
edubuntugirlhighvoltage: Google found 'GILBERT'S SYNDROME - a patient's guide', at http://www.medic8.com/healthguide/articles/gilbertsyn.html06:46
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highvoltageI wonder why they make medical terms so complicated.06:54
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bronze"guild rules"07:12
bronze"whoever has the guilders, makes the rules"07:13
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highvoltage108:06
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stgraberRichEd: still no stable wireless connection ? :)08:10
RichEdIf you mean my wireless. it's fine. I keep on hibernating my notenook when moving from room to room and that's why you see me dropping in and out.08:11
stgrabera ok :)08:13
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RichEdstgraber: walking around with an open notebook, and the potential for dropping and damage is more of a hassle than restarting from hiernate08:15
stgraberDid you have a BOF about Student Control Panel update today ?08:15
stgraberRichEd: You are lucky to have a working hibernate :)08:16
RichEdstgraber: hibernate is a.ok for me. suspend is dodgy and hangs around 1 in 5 times08:16
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aldwincan anyone help with my problem with linux ubuntu. here's how it go: i hav an amd x2 (dual core) 64bit 3.8ghz pc and i did download and tried both the desktop 6.10 for amd64 and the 6.10 alternate for amd64bit but both didn't work. i just endup with starting the cd and it did boot me up to the main menu of the disk. when i tried the install option. nothing happens... (just the splash screen of a black and white ubuntu logo, nothing more).08:18
stgraberI saw a BOF for SCPU scheduled but not on VOIP, did it happen or is it rescheduled ?08:18
RichEdstgraber: i was just looking that up for you. it is a drafting session only. ogra will be doing that on his own. laserjock had to leave last night.08:19
stgraberok08:19
RichEdaldwin: ubuntu or edubuntu ?08:19
stgraberNothing really interessting from my POV today (or at least for the less I can see on the VOIP schedule)08:20
aldwinRiched: ubuntu08:20
stgraberaldwin: When you have the splash screen, try to see the text output by pressing ESC or F2 (I can't remember)08:20
stgraberaldwin: anyway, here that's the edubuntu channel, not the Ubuntu one08:21
RichEdaldwin: i suggest you also ask in #ubuntu then ... both channels may a bit quiet as the main players are all at a developer summit08:21
stgraberaldwin: and if that's for a personnal use, I would recommend you to switch to a 32bit OS (to have flash and other binary softwares working)08:21
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stgrabergood bye08:21
stgraber:)08:21
RichEdnice polite exit08:21
RichEdnot08:21
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floydwildeHow to set lcd xorg settings on thin client w/ edubutu?08:39
stgraberHi08:46
stgraberI don't really understand your question, can you reformulate it ?08:47
stgraberWhat kind of settings do you want to set (resolution ?), what's the current problem (for instance unusable resolution on a thin client), ... ?08:49
floydwildeYes the resolution came up 640x480 and 60 hz08:51
floydwildeNo option to change in preferences08:51
floydwildeit's a ViewSonic VG70008:51
stgraberok, there is an option in the lts.conf you can set to change the resolution on a specific thin client (by MAC address) or on all of them08:51
stgraber(just let me boot my edubuntu computer :) )08:52
stgraberis that only for one thin client or for all of them ?08:52
floydwildewe are switching to lcd, I have a fiew viewsonic and another model08:53
stgraberok, the system is done this way, there is a default value and then some exceptions08:53
stgraberso choose the resolution you have the most as default08:53
stgraberand get a list of all the other computers MAC addresses08:53
floydwildewhats the path to lts08:54
stgraber/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf08:55
floydwildeyep there it is08:55
floydwildewait, I don't have one there08:55
floydwildeusing defaults never made an lts.conf, this is muekow right?08:56
floydwilde/opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/lts.conf08:56
floydwildeshould I create one from this file? 08:57
stgraberhmm, just a small question What version of Edubuntu are you using ?08:57
floydwildedapper08:57
stgraberno, you can simply create an empty one, I will give you the few lines I have here in mine08:58
floydwildeawesome!08:58
stgraberok, that's why you don't have one by default08:58
stgraberhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30542/08:59
stgraberthat's the default edgy one08:59
stgraberit should also work on Dapper08:59
stgraberthen you can add (in the [default] ) section : X_MODE_0=800x600 (or any other resolution)09:00
stgraberit will be the default resolution on your LTSP network (just try with a client if you can to check that the lts.conf file works correctly)09:00
floydwildedo you have localdev working on edgy?09:01
stgraberyes09:02
floydwildeit doesn't work in dapper from what I understand09:02
stgrabersound and localdev works from the begining, nothing to set (at least for me)09:02
stgraberyes, there was a lot of work for that in Edgy09:02
floydwildedo you have to restart anything or just reboot client?09:03
stgrabernow, you plug your USB key, a cdrom, or any mass storage thing and it appears in Nautilus and on the Desktop as it was local09:03
stgraberjust reboot the client09:03
floydwildehmm still to big, there is a ViewSonic VGA700b that works okay though09:07
floydwildeUnfortunately mostly we just have VGA700 09:07
floydwildeI mean VG70009:07
nixternalfloydwilde: !!!!09:08
nixternalwasabi homer09:08
floydwildeHelloooo09:08
nixternalcreating tension in the LUG i see ;)09:08
floydwildeHey I gots to be me09:09
nixternalhahahaha09:09
nixternalhow much are you looking at spending ona  lappy btw?  tiger direct in naperville has some sub 500 deals, refurbs that might work out well09:09
floydwildeI just scored some LCD screens tryingto make them play nice w/ ltsp09:09
nixternalnm, this is the edubuntu chan btw ;)09:09
stgraberAnother ubuntu-chicago member ? :)09:09
nixternali thought this was codlug for a sec, then i noticed all the wonderful people09:10
floydwildeyeah talk in cod(g)lug09:10
nixternalstgraber: we goto school and CoDLUG together ;)09:10
stgraberok :)09:10
stgrabernixternal: You are lucky to have some other Ubuntu users @ school :)09:10
nixternali forgot he was in #edubuntu as well, and i thought it was members of the LUG talking ;)09:10
stgraberhere, as soon as you don't use Windows you are an alien :)09:10
nixternalfloydwilde uses it more than I do, and he found out about it at the courthouse as well09:11
floydwildeYeah didja ever hear anything about that09:11
floydwildeThey weren't using ltsp, but some vnc type setup09:11
nixternalno, i talked to the admin there and he has no idea about Linux09:11
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lucasvoomg another edu-distro09:12
lucasvo>http://www.lerntux.de/09:12
stgraberfloydwilde: ok, so set the X_MODE_0 to the value that's used the most on your network, then set some other sections (like the default one)09:12
stgraber[IP-OF-THE-CLIENT]  or [MAC-OF-THE-CLIENT] 09:13
stgraberand then set a custom X_MODE_0 for it09:13
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floydwildeX_MODE_0 got it09:13
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nixternalya same here09:15
floydwildeI added X_MODE_0 and X_Color_Depth settings to lts.conf but no luck09:24
=== stgraber really likes his small pastebin client software : "pastebin thefile" or "ps aux | pastebin -" and it's on the web :)
stgraberfloydwilde: where did you put them ? in the [default]  section ?09:25
floydwildeyes09:26
floydwildeoh do i have lts.conf in the wrong place, /opt/ltsp/i38609:29
floydwildeshould it be: /opt/ltsp/i386/etc09:29
stgraberat least in edgy it's in the etc directory yes09:30
stgraberI can't remember for Dapper09:30
stgraberjust try :)09:30
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floydwildehmm still no dice09:32
floydwildeI think it read the config file though09:33
floydwildewhat about editing the x config in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/X11?09:34
stgraberyou can but I'm not sure LTSP really read this part (because of the X_MODE_0 option)09:36
floydwildeOk a googling I shall go09:37
stgraberthe LTSP lts.conf do is here http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf09:38
stgraberbut I don't know (and can't find) the list of the implemented lts.conf options in Dapper09:38
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floydwildehad to set the horzsync and vert settings, but now resolution is at 1024x76810:06
leManuhi all, does anybody know who's maintaining edubuntu wiki ?10:08
LaserJockwell, the edubuntu wiki is just a theme on the Ubuntu wiki10:08
leManuhttps://wiki.edubuntu.org/ ?10:08
LaserJockyeah, it's the same as wiki.ubuntu.com10:09
leManuok10:09
LaserJockit's just got some redirect and theming magic10:09
leManuthe page behind Download on top needs updating, right ? talks about 5.1010:10
LaserJockleManu: yep, good catch10:11
LaserJockleManu: do you want to fix it?10:14
leManuLaserJock: the page is locked10:15
LaserJockoh sorry, I didn't see that10:15
LaserJockleManu: ah, I think you just need to login10:16
LaserJockfrom the Edubuntu side10:16
leManuthink so, but don't know where and how...10:18
LaserJockleManu: there's a little login link10:20
LaserJockleManu: at the top of the search box10:20
leManuLaserJock: thx10:20
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jelknercould anyone here help with a dhcp server problem?10:26
jelkneri keep getting "No subnet declaration for eth0 (192.162.42.254)"10:27
jelknerbut i think i have /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf configured correctly.10:27
jelkners dhcp.conf dhcpd.conf10:28
stgraberjelkner: can you paste.ubuntu-nl.org your dhcpd.conf and a result of the ifconfig command ?10:29
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jelknerstgraber: done10:38
jelkneri got the server started10:38
jelknerturns out i need a subnet declaration for each interface10:38
jelknernot just the one i want to listen on10:38
jelknerso i added:subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {10:38
jelkner}10:38
jelknerand it worked10:39
jelknerbut the clients are still not getting an address10:39
jelknerNo DHCP or proxyDHCP offers were received10:39
stgraberIt should work with your file (the one on pastebin) if you have one of the server interfaces inside this subnet10:51
stgraberthen /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart should work10:51
stgraberthere is no need to create an empty subnet10:51
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diplomatI am about to install edubuntu on a computer for my daughter (almost 3), when she is 3 I plan to start teaching her to use the computer, have many of you had experience doing this at this age?10:56
jelknerstgraber: thanks, i had the wrong address on the interface 162 instead of 192 in the second octet10:59
jelknerthanks again10:59
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LaserJockhi RichEd and ogra_ 11:25
RichEdhi LaserJock ... safe trip back ? no major fires on the work or domestic front ?11:26
LaserJockoh, it was pretty interesting11:26
LaserJockI haven't been that stressed in a long time11:26
RichEdthe trip or the welcom ?11:26
RichEd*welcome11:26
LaserJockwe got home at 1:00am11:27
LaserJockand then I worked on data analysis, etc. until 5:00am11:27
RichEdwe ? who did you have with you ?11:27
LaserJockmy wife11:27
LaserJockshe was visiting her family (who we were staying with)11:27
LaserJockthen I got to work at 9:30 and my boss wasn't so happy11:27
RichEdstgraber & nixternal : it's less interesting today because we have got the major requirements under control & on track yesterday. ogra and I are very pleased11:28
LaserJockbut we did some last minute work and the presentation went off pretty well11:28
RichEdLaserJock: did you not have permission to be here AWOL or did your boss change his mind ?11:28
LaserJockheh, well since I was only taking 1 day off I didn't even ask him11:29
LaserJockwe're usually pretty flexible here11:29
LaserJockin hindsight I probably should have just to let him know11:29
LaserJockanyway, it's all better now11:30
LaserJockthe presentation is done11:30
LaserJockand we can get back to work11:30
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