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[02:29] <bddebian> Heya gang
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[02:43] <juantao> Hello. Do you know of any application that would help a spanish speaker learn english ?
[02:44] <juantao> ESL /GPL
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[06:45] <highvoltage> edubuntugirl: tell ogra glad to see that the 2nd cd as repo is kind of panning out :)
[06:45] <edubuntugirl> Righto, highvoltage!
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[07:48] <ulinskie> j #iosn
[07:48] <ulinskie> shit heheh
[07:48] <ulinskie> sowwy
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[10:02] <kihai> Hi guys. I need some help here: After upgrading to edgy with update-manager I got a faulty ltsp installation. sudo ltsp-build-client gave me: perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
[10:02] <kihai> Leaving `diversion of /etc/mtab to /etc/mtab.real by ltsp-client'
[10:02] <kihai> `/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list' -> `/opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/sources.list.old'
[10:02] <kihai> ln: creating symbolic link `/dev/fd' to `/proc/self/fd': File exists
[10:02] <kihai> error: LTSP client installation ended abnormally
[10:02] <kihai> Any help on this?
[10:04] <Burgundavia> kihai: I would try back later
[10:04] <Burgundavia> all of our LTSP experts are currently at the developer summit, and it is 1am there
[10:05] <kihai> I'm having a lot of people waiting for the clients to work again....
[10:05] <Burgundavia> right
[10:06] <kihai> hmm, looks like bad luck then... :)
[10:06] <Burgundavia> try the mailing list
[10:07] <Burgundavia> sorry I cannot be more help
[10:26] <kihai> OK, I'll try to update the ltsp chroot again and if that doesn't work I will delete it and try to build it again. Does anyone know if the packages downloaded by ltsp-build-client will be saved so that I don't have to down them again?
[10:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> afaik not
[10:27] <Kamping_Kaiser> but maybe they are saved in the chroot
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[10:38] <kihai> Just tried it. They don't get saved. I'll have to download them again...
[10:38] <Kamping_Kaiser> :(
[10:39] <cbx33> anyone had any experience opening power supplies
[10:39] <cbx33> I have one with no screws
[10:39] <cbx33> and can't get it to open
[10:40] <Kamping_Kaiser> never seen one with no screws
[10:41] <cbx33> heheh
[10:41] <cbx33> well this one has no screws not even under stickey labels
[10:42] <Kamping_Kaiser> cool. wish i could break it
[10:45] <kihai> Can anyone help me with this error message from update-notifier: Error: Opening the cache (E:Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/de.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_edgy-updates_Release -open (13 Permission denied), E: the package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.)
[10:46] <kihai> When I open Synaptic, I don't see any errors or broken packages, though
[10:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> hm.
[10:47] <Kamping_Kaiser> i'm not sure.
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[10:51] <kihai> ...and the ltsp-build-client failed, too, somehow. There'S an error about locale settings and it says that pxe is not configured. First the clients could find an operating system, then I changed the path of the linux image in /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf. Now the clients boot up until the graphic bootscreen but then I get a lot of "syslogd: /var/log/... read only filesystem" errors...
[10:54] <Kamping_Kaiser> kihai, do you have 'ltsp-server' isntalled?
[10:55] <kihai> yes
[10:56] <kihai> I had edubuntu dapper with a working ltsp and did the upgrade to edgy. Then I deleted the chroot tree and rebuilt it again, but that failed because of the wrong locale settings
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[11:19] <cbx33> but i did a fresh install
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[11:37] <kihai> I guess when this attempt fails as well, I'll do a clean install, too. It should be OK to just copy the home dirs and the passwd, group and shadow, shouldn't it?
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[11:54] <cbx33> hey LaserJock 
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[12:39] <kihai> Hi again! I hope someone can help me on this: After upgrading to edgy update-notifier tells me: Error: Opening the cache (Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/de.archive...edgy_Release - open(13: Permission denied) The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. 
[12:39] <kihai> Is there a way to reinstall those apparently broken packages?
[12:40] <kihai> I tried to rename the file, but after  a while update-notifier gave me the same error
[12:44] <LaserJock> hmm
[12:44] <LaserJock> I really don't have much of a clue there
[12:44] <LaserJock> have you tried using a different mirror?
[12:46] <kihai> Yes, but to no avail...
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[01:41] <aze> hi all
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[01:52] <theresa> the "gettingstarted" link on the edubuntu wiki doesn't work.... http://proto.edubuntu.org/gettingstarted
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[02:26] <willvdl> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/GettingStarted
[02:26] <willvdl> woops wait a sec
[02:30] <highvoltage> proto.edubuntu.org is where the current website lived for a while
[02:30] <highvoltage> the wiki pages is in seious need of update :)
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[02:32] <jsgotangco> hey
[02:34] <highvoltage> hey mr gotangco
[02:35] <willvdl> where is the gettingstarted node?
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[02:36] <jsgotangco> wehehehe
[02:36] <highvoltage> willvdl: http://www.edubuntu.org/GettingStarted
[02:36] <highvoltage> jsgotangco: wow
[02:37] <jsgotangco> ive been saying that for 2 days already
[02:37] <highvoltage> jsgotangco: sorry, haven't been listening
[02:37] <jsgotangco> highvoltage: i meant "wow"
[02:37] <jsgotangco> hehe
[02:37] <willvdl> ah www, not wiki
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[02:38] <highvoltage> jsgotangco: aaah :)
[02:38] <willvdl> highvoltage, familiar with autopackage?
[02:38] <jsgotangco> willvdl: yuck?
[02:39] <highvoltage> willvdl: nope
[02:39] <willvdl> yuck? why?
[02:39] <highvoltage> edubuntugirl: google autopackage
[02:39] <jsgotangco> highvoltage: wow its 0.07/minute on landline
[02:39] <edubuntugirl> highvoltage: Google found 'Autopackage : Easy Linux Software Installation', at http://autopackage.org/
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[02:40] <jsgotangco> highvoltage: but 0.23 for mobile jeezz
[02:40] <willvdl> jsgotangco, what service is this?
[02:40] <willvdl> sounds neat
[02:40] <jsgotangco> sipphone
[02:40] <highvoltage> autopackage doesn't seem to use dpkg as a backend :-/
[02:40] <jsgotangco> nahh
[02:40] <jsgotangco> its a bunch of bash scripts
[02:41] <jsgotangco> but autopackage seems to get the favour of some upstream projects
[02:41] <highvoltage> willvdl: I would suggest taking a look at the ubuntu packaging guide, and then using a debian package with gdebi or something similar
[02:42] <willvdl> this is why I am curious
[02:42] <highvoltage> willvdl: I'm currently working on a tool called 2-Pack, which will be a gdebi-like tool for .deb files
[02:42] <willvdl> highvoltage, looking into this after our last discussion
[02:42] <jsgotangco> willvdl: well for content providers who do not want to be package specific, autopackage seems to be a nice sell
[02:42] <jsgotangco> since it will basically work on any distro
[02:42] <highvoltage> willvdl: I'll send you a tuxlab cd next week, you could get it off the disc and investigate if you want
[02:42] <willvdl> awesome
[02:43] <highvoltage> you can then get the latest xola, j-zee and 2pack from there
[02:43] <willvdl> excellent
[02:43] <willvdl> j-zee?
[02:43] <jsgotangco> willvdl: but its been criticised to be a bit of a mess and installing stuff where its not supposed to
[02:43] <highvoltage> j-zee tracks software usage, and makes sure that kids can only run one instance of gcompris, ktuberling, etc at a time
[02:43] <willvdl> jsgotangco, hmmm, I'm tempted to tell people to produce rpm and dev and leave it there
[02:44] <highvoltage> j-zee is just a wrapper
[02:44] <highvoltage> but it works well.
[02:44] <willvdl> highvoltage, nice
[02:44] <jsgotangco> highvoltage: that's pretty neat
[02:44] <willvdl> can see where that's going
[02:44] <willvdl> all yours? or are you working on it with someone
[02:44] <jsgotangco> willvdl: ive used it, it looks nice, but i dunno if its clean
[02:45] <willvdl> jsgotangco, you mean autopackage no doubt
[02:45] <jsgotangco> willvdl: yes
[02:45] <highvoltage> willvdl: at the moment just me, there's some other stuff I'm working on too, but I'll open it up to wider people soon to get wider testing/feedback/contributions
[02:46] <jsgotangco> like i said, some upstream projects who do not want to do specific pckages seem to like it
[02:46] <willvdl> the "Smart" board people are working on linux support
[02:46] <willvdl> http://www.smarttech.com/support/software/linux.asp
[02:46] <willvdl> which is where I saw it
[02:46] <jsgotangco> yeah
[02:46] <jsgotangco> even Xara has an autopackage listed
[02:47] <willvdl> highvoltage, that's something I'd like to play with too (if there's ever time)
[02:47] <willvdl> hmm, food for thought
[02:47] <highvoltage> cool. does the schools you work with have smartboards?
[02:47] <highvoltage> btw, anyone know if a quad-opteron machine will work with a 686-smp kernel?
[02:49] <willvdl> highvoltage, smart are on of the consortium members
[02:50] <willvdl> they're on HP, Cisco and M$ consortiums
[02:50] <highvoltage> aaah
[02:50] <willvdl> but have really done only a bit on NEPAD
[02:50] <willvdl> they supplied Khanya
[02:51] <willvdl> highvoltage, I thought the 686 kernel had smp built in? 
[02:51] <highvoltage> willvdl: it does
[02:51] <highvoltage> willvdl: but will it support all the cores in an AMD?
[02:52] <willvdl> why would there be a 686-smp kernel as well then?
[02:52] <highvoltage> oh, there isn't :)
[02:52] <highvoltage> the -generic kernel /is/ the 686-smp kernel :)
[02:52] <willvdl> ah...sigh, only ever had a K6 to play with
[02:52] <highvoltage> I could've just said the -generic kernel, but I'm being explicit
[02:52] <willvdl> that noisy thing that used to sit on my tsf desk
[02:53] <highvoltage> because 686 will work on it, but I'd like to know if I can use all cores without installing a special kernel for it
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[02:53] <highvoltage> willvdl: aaah
[02:53] <willvdl> ask Jason
[02:53] <willvdl> I think he has one
[02:53] <highvoltage> willvdl: I'm interested in quad opteron servers for the schools, they should perform quite well as ltsp servers
[02:54] <highvoltage> I had a K6 *ages* ago. It felt so fast the day I bought it... that was probably the one chip I owned that got obsolete the fastest.
[02:54] <highvoltage> (not like my 386 that I used for 5 years)
[02:55] <willvdl> the Sun machines he was given for freedom toaster I think have quad opterons
[02:55] <willvdl> what's the cost benefit like?
[02:55] <willvdl> sorry K7
[03:00] <highvoltage> I think those that jason has are dual opterons
[03:00] <willvdl> hmm, probably
[03:00] <highvoltage> willvdl: I haven't looked at the prices yet, but apparently they are coming down fast, I think they're still slightly more expensive than the Intel servers we use
[03:00] <highvoltage> but the performance should be remarkably better.
[03:01] <highvoltage> (if you can use all the cpus/cores properly)
[03:01] <willvdl> as long as they can handle the environment... heat etc.
[03:01] <willvdl> how many seats you want to drive off of it?
[03:02] <highvoltage> this isn't for a specific project, I'm just wondering, I actually need to buy myself a new machine and I thought of getting a quad-opteron to play with, and then investigate it as our new standard server
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[03:44] <kihai> Could anybody help me? I just made a fresh edgy edubuntu install and after I booted the first client, the next one doesn't receive a dhcp offer, although the dhcp server is running
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[04:18] <bddebian> Heya
[04:18] <aze> hey you
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[04:44] <stgraber> nixternal: ping
[04:44] <nixternal> pongers
[04:45] <stgraber> can you come on 5000 ? I just bought an USB headset and I absolutely don't know if my mic volume is correct
[04:45] <nixternal> lemme boot up my voip box
[04:49] <nixternal> ok, it says im connected to 5000
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[04:49] <migi> hello
[04:50] <stgraber> ok
[04:50] <nixternal> talk
[04:50] <nixternal> i can hear you, you need to tweak some settings..it sounds like a lot of bass, or echo yes
[04:52] <nixternal> still some echo
[04:52] <stgraber> ok, I hope that's cause of the room I'm currently in, it's a quite small room
[04:52] <nixternal> i wish there was a way that you could mute and umute when you use the mic
[04:53] <nixternal> stgraber: thats exactly what it sounded like..like you were in a small room
[04:53] <nixternal> maybe move the mic closer to you?
[04:53] <nixternal> big difference
[04:53] <stgraber> I'm in my room, with a lot more space :)
[04:53] <nixternal> hehe
[04:53] <nixternal> does that mic have a mute button on it?
[04:54] <stgraber> no, only a volume changer thing that doesn't work :)
[04:54] <nixternal> hehe
[04:54] <stgraber> and a led that's flickering all the time (ugly blue led)
[04:54] <nixternal> it seems whenever there is an open mic on the network, there is a crackling sound
[04:54] <nixternal> blue is not ugly ;)
[04:54] <stgraber> mine is muted
[04:55] <nixternal> you disconnected
[04:55] <nixternal> you are back
[04:55] <stgraber> yes
[04:55] <stgraber> still these crackling sounds ?
[04:55] <nixternal> nope
[04:55] <stgraber> and now ?
[04:56] <nixternal> nope
[04:56] <nixternal> i don't hear anything
[04:56] <nixternal> a very slight high pitched sound, but nothing that would distrub a conference
[04:56] <nixternal> and i only hear that because of the network silence
[04:56] <stgraber> good, but I didn't change anything :)
[04:57] <nixternal> are you still muted?
[04:57] <stgraber> yes
[04:57] <nixternal> i hear no talking at all
[04:57] <nixternal> oh ok
[04:57] <nixternal> now i hear you
[04:57] <nixternal> that mic picks up everything..i hear you breathing
[04:58] <stgraber> yes, good thing that means I'm still alive :)
[04:58] <nixternal> you sounded good there, however i couldn't pick up what you were saying...very strong accent, or you were speaking a language other than english ;)
[04:58] <nixternal> hahahahahhahaha
[04:58] <stgraber> hehe :)
[04:58] <nixternal> i can barely understand english as it is
[04:59] <stgraber> My english prononciation isn't good at all, I got some frenglish speakers and then that's hard to learn a good one :)
[05:00] <nixternal> lol
[05:00] <nixternal> ok, i knew it was french...
[05:00] <nixternal> i disconnected...i need to go and vote for some more idiots to run this oh so great country ;)
[05:02] <stgraber> :)
[05:02] <stgraber> btw, I also disconnected : "Your laptop is out of power and will shutdown now"
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[05:56] <kihai> Hi guys! Any LTSP experts around???
[05:58] <cbx33> there is at least one
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[06:04] <kihai> OK, does anyone know what could cause my prob with the dhcpd of ltsp? The server is running and I can boot up one client. When I try to boot the next client, it doesn't receive an IP address from the dhcp server. Everything is freshly installed
[06:04] <kihai> ...I'm using edgy
[06:07] <azenux> there's something in the log ?
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[06:09] <kihai> Ahem, in which log should I look? in /var/log/messages I don't find anything. Or do I have to look in the chroot logs?
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[06:11] <highvoltage> running out of memory--
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[06:12] <azenux> kihai both
[06:13] <cbx33-gilbert> hey highvoltage 
[06:17] <highvoltage> hey cbx33-gilbert 
[06:18] <highvoltage> gilbert?
[06:19] <cbx33-gilbert> heh
[06:19] <cbx33-gilbert> It looks like i may have found out what causes my sleepiness
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[06:26] <cbx33-gilbert> it's called Gilberts Syndrome
[06:46] <highvoltage> cbx33-gilbert: oh? what's that?
[06:46] <highvoltage> edubuntugirl: google for gilberts syndrome
[06:46] <edubuntugirl> highvoltage: Google found 'GILBERT'S SYNDROME - a patient's guide', at http://www.medic8.com/healthguide/articles/gilbertsyn.html
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[06:54] <highvoltage> I wonder why they make medical terms so complicated.
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[07:12] <bronze> "guild rules"
[07:13] <bronze> "whoever has the guilders, makes the rules"
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[08:06] <highvoltage> 1
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[08:10] <stgraber> RichEd: still no stable wireless connection ? :)
[08:11] <RichEd> If you mean my wireless. it's fine. I keep on hibernating my notenook when moving from room to room and that's why you see me dropping in and out.
[08:13] <stgraber> a ok :)
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[08:15] <RichEd> stgraber: walking around with an open notebook, and the potential for dropping and damage is more of a hassle than restarting from hiernate
[08:15] <stgraber> Did you have a BOF about Student Control Panel update today ?
[08:16] <stgraber> RichEd: You are lucky to have a working hibernate :)
[08:16] <RichEd> stgraber: hibernate is a.ok for me. suspend is dodgy and hangs around 1 in 5 times
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[08:18] <aldwin> can anyone help with my problem with linux ubuntu. here's how it go: i hav an amd x2 (dual core) 64bit 3.8ghz pc and i did download and tried both the desktop 6.10 for amd64 and the 6.10 alternate for amd64bit but both didn't work. i just endup with starting the cd and it did boot me up to the main menu of the disk. when i tried the install option. nothing happens... (just the splash screen of a black and white ubuntu logo, nothing more).
[08:18] <stgraber> I saw a BOF for SCPU scheduled but not on VOIP, did it happen or is it rescheduled ?
[08:19] <RichEd> stgraber: i was just looking that up for you. it is a drafting session only. ogra will be doing that on his own. laserjock had to leave last night.
[08:19] <stgraber> ok
[08:19] <RichEd> aldwin: ubuntu or edubuntu ?
[08:20] <stgraber> Nothing really interessting from my POV today (or at least for the less I can see on the VOIP schedule)
[08:20] <aldwin> Riched: ubuntu
[08:20] <stgraber> aldwin: When you have the splash screen, try to see the text output by pressing ESC or F2 (I can't remember)
[08:21] <stgraber> aldwin: anyway, here that's the edubuntu channel, not the Ubuntu one
[08:21] <RichEd> aldwin: i suggest you also ask in #ubuntu then ... both channels may a bit quiet as the main players are all at a developer summit
[08:21] <stgraber> aldwin: and if that's for a personnal use, I would recommend you to switch to a 32bit OS (to have flash and other binary softwares working)
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[08:21] <stgraber> good bye
[08:21] <stgraber> :)
[08:21] <RichEd> nice polite exit
[08:21] <RichEd> not
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[08:39] <floydwilde> How to set lcd xorg settings on thin client w/ edubutu?
[08:46] <stgraber> Hi
[08:47] <stgraber> I don't really understand your question, can you reformulate it ?
[08:49] <stgraber> What kind of settings do you want to set (resolution ?), what's the current problem (for instance unusable resolution on a thin client), ... ?
[08:51] <floydwilde> Yes the resolution came up 640x480 and 60 hz
[08:51] <floydwilde> No option to change in preferences
[08:51] <floydwilde> it's a ViewSonic VG700
[08:51] <stgraber> ok, there is an option in the lts.conf you can set to change the resolution on a specific thin client (by MAC address) or on all of them
[08:52] <stgraber> (just let me boot my edubuntu computer :) )
[08:52] <stgraber> is that only for one thin client or for all of them ?
[08:53] <floydwilde> we are switching to lcd, I have a fiew viewsonic and another model
[08:53] <stgraber> ok, the system is done this way, there is a default value and then some exceptions
[08:53] <stgraber> so choose the resolution you have the most as default
[08:53] <stgraber> and get a list of all the other computers MAC addresses
[08:54] <floydwilde> whats the path to lts
[08:55] <stgraber> /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/lts.conf
[08:55] <floydwilde> yep there it is
[08:55] <floydwilde> wait, I don't have one there
[08:56] <floydwilde> using defaults never made an lts.conf, this is muekow right?
[08:56] <floydwilde> /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/share/doc/ltsp-client/examples/lts.conf
[08:57] <floydwilde> should I create one from this file? 
[08:57] <stgraber> hmm, just a small question What version of Edubuntu are you using ?
[08:57] <floydwilde> dapper
[08:58] <stgraber> no, you can simply create an empty one, I will give you the few lines I have here in mine
[08:58] <floydwilde> awesome!
[08:58] <stgraber> ok, that's why you don't have one by default
[08:59] <stgraber> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30542/
[08:59] <stgraber> that's the default edgy one
[08:59] <stgraber> it should also work on Dapper
[09:00] <stgraber> then you can add (in the [default] ) section : X_MODE_0=800x600 (or any other resolution)
[09:00] <stgraber> it will be the default resolution on your LTSP network (just try with a client if you can to check that the lts.conf file works correctly)
[09:01] <floydwilde> do you have localdev working on edgy?
[09:02] <stgraber> yes
[09:02] <floydwilde> it doesn't work in dapper from what I understand
[09:02] <stgraber> sound and localdev works from the begining, nothing to set (at least for me)
[09:02] <stgraber> yes, there was a lot of work for that in Edgy
[09:03] <floydwilde> do you have to restart anything or just reboot client?
[09:03] <stgraber> now, you plug your USB key, a cdrom, or any mass storage thing and it appears in Nautilus and on the Desktop as it was local
[09:03] <stgraber> just reboot the client
[09:07] <floydwilde> hmm still to big, there is a ViewSonic VGA700b that works okay though
[09:07] <floydwilde> Unfortunately mostly we just have VGA700 
[09:07] <floydwilde> I mean VG700
[09:08] <nixternal> floydwilde: !!!!
[09:08] <nixternal> wasabi homer
[09:08] <floydwilde> Helloooo
[09:08] <nixternal> creating tension in the LUG i see ;)
[09:09] <floydwilde> Hey I gots to be me
[09:09] <nixternal> hahahaha
[09:09] <nixternal> how much are you looking at spending ona  lappy btw?  tiger direct in naperville has some sub 500 deals, refurbs that might work out well
[09:09] <floydwilde> I just scored some LCD screens tryingto make them play nice w/ ltsp
[09:09] <nixternal> nm, this is the edubuntu chan btw ;)
[09:09] <stgraber> Another ubuntu-chicago member ? :)
[09:10] <nixternal> i thought this was codlug for a sec, then i noticed all the wonderful people
[09:10] <floydwilde> yeah talk in cod(g)lug
[09:10] <nixternal> stgraber: we goto school and CoDLUG together ;)
[09:10] <stgraber> ok :)
[09:10] <stgraber> nixternal: You are lucky to have some other Ubuntu users @ school :)
[09:10] <nixternal> i forgot he was in #edubuntu as well, and i thought it was members of the LUG talking ;)
[09:10] <stgraber> here, as soon as you don't use Windows you are an alien :)
[09:11] <nixternal> floydwilde uses it more than I do, and he found out about it at the courthouse as well
[09:11] <floydwilde> Yeah didja ever hear anything about that
[09:11] <floydwilde> They weren't using ltsp, but some vnc type setup
[09:11] <nixternal> no, i talked to the admin there and he has no idea about Linux
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[09:12] <lucasvo> omg another edu-distro
[09:12] <lucasvo> >http://www.lerntux.de/
[09:12] <stgraber> floydwilde: ok, so set the X_MODE_0 to the value that's used the most on your network, then set some other sections (like the default one)
[09:13] <stgraber> [IP-OF-THE-CLIENT]  or [MAC-OF-THE-CLIENT] 
[09:13] <stgraber> and then set a custom X_MODE_0 for it
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[09:13] <floydwilde> X_MODE_0 got it
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[09:15] <nixternal> ya same here
[09:24] <floydwilde> I added X_MODE_0 and X_Color_Depth settings to lts.conf but no luck
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[09:25] <stgraber> floydwilde: where did you put them ? in the [default]  section ?
[09:26] <floydwilde> yes
[09:29] <floydwilde> oh do i have lts.conf in the wrong place, /opt/ltsp/i386
[09:29] <floydwilde> should it be: /opt/ltsp/i386/etc
[09:30] <stgraber> at least in edgy it's in the etc directory yes
[09:30] <stgraber> I can't remember for Dapper
[09:30] <stgraber> just try :)
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[09:32] <floydwilde> hmm still no dice
[09:33] <floydwilde> I think it read the config file though
[09:34] <floydwilde> what about editing the x config in /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/X11?
[09:36] <stgraber> you can but I'm not sure LTSP really read this part (because of the X_MODE_0 option)
[09:37] <floydwilde> Ok a googling I shall go
[09:38] <stgraber> the LTSP lts.conf do is here http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LtsConf
[09:38] <stgraber> but I don't know (and can't find) the list of the implemented lts.conf options in Dapper
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[10:06] <floydwilde> had to set the horzsync and vert settings, but now resolution is at 1024x768
[10:08] <leManu> hi all, does anybody know who's maintaining edubuntu wiki ?
[10:08] <LaserJock> well, the edubuntu wiki is just a theme on the Ubuntu wiki
[10:08] <leManu> https://wiki.edubuntu.org/ ?
[10:09] <LaserJock> yeah, it's the same as wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:09] <leManu> ok
[10:09] <LaserJock> it's just got some redirect and theming magic
[10:10] <leManu> the page behind Download on top needs updating, right ? talks about 5.10
[10:11] <LaserJock> leManu: yep, good catch
[10:14] <LaserJock> leManu: do you want to fix it?
[10:15] <leManu> LaserJock: the page is locked
[10:15] <LaserJock> oh sorry, I didn't see that
[10:16] <LaserJock> leManu: ah, I think you just need to login
[10:16] <LaserJock> from the Edubuntu side
[10:18] <leManu> think so, but don't know where and how...
[10:20] <LaserJock> leManu: there's a little login link
[10:20] <LaserJock> leManu: at the top of the search box
[10:20] <leManu> LaserJock: thx
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[10:26] <jelkner> could anyone here help with a dhcp server problem?
[10:27] <jelkner> i keep getting "No subnet declaration for eth0 (192.162.42.254)"
[10:27] <jelkner> but i think i have /etc/ltsp/dhcp.conf configured correctly.
[10:28] <jelkner> s dhcp.conf dhcpd.conf
[10:29] <stgraber> jelkner: can you paste.ubuntu-nl.org your dhcpd.conf and a result of the ifconfig command ?
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[10:38] <jelkner> stgraber: done
[10:38] <jelkner> i got the server started
[10:38] <jelkner> turns out i need a subnet declaration for each interface
[10:38] <jelkner> not just the one i want to listen on
[10:38] <jelkner> so i added:subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {
[10:38] <jelkner> }
[10:39] <jelkner> and it worked
[10:39] <jelkner> but the clients are still not getting an address
[10:39] <jelkner> No DHCP or proxyDHCP offers were received
[10:51] <stgraber> It should work with your file (the one on pastebin) if you have one of the server interfaces inside this subnet
[10:51] <stgraber> then /etc/init.d/dhcpd restart should work
[10:51] <stgraber> there is no need to create an empty subnet
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[10:56] <diplomat> I am about to install edubuntu on a computer for my daughter (almost 3), when she is 3 I plan to start teaching her to use the computer, have many of you had experience doing this at this age?
[10:59] <jelkner> stgraber: thanks, i had the wrong address on the interface 162 instead of 192 in the second octet
[10:59] <jelkner> thanks again
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[11:25] <LaserJock> hi RichEd and ogra_ 
[11:26] <RichEd> hi LaserJock ... safe trip back ? no major fires on the work or domestic front ?
[11:26] <LaserJock> oh, it was pretty interesting
[11:26] <LaserJock> I haven't been that stressed in a long time
[11:26] <RichEd> the trip or the welcom ?
[11:26] <RichEd> *welcome
[11:27] <LaserJock> we got home at 1:00am
[11:27] <LaserJock> and then I worked on data analysis, etc. until 5:00am
[11:27] <RichEd> we ? who did you have with you ?
[11:27] <LaserJock> my wife
[11:27] <LaserJock> she was visiting her family (who we were staying with)
[11:27] <LaserJock> then I got to work at 9:30 and my boss wasn't so happy
[11:28] <RichEd> stgraber & nixternal : it's less interesting today because we have got the major requirements under control & on track yesterday. ogra and I are very pleased
[11:28] <LaserJock> but we did some last minute work and the presentation went off pretty well
[11:28] <RichEd> LaserJock: did you not have permission to be here AWOL or did your boss change his mind ?
[11:29] <LaserJock> heh, well since I was only taking 1 day off I didn't even ask him
[11:29] <LaserJock> we're usually pretty flexible here
[11:29] <LaserJock> in hindsight I probably should have just to let him know
[11:30] <LaserJock> anyway, it's all better now
[11:30] <LaserJock> the presentation is done
[11:30] <LaserJock> and we can get back to work
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