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| bhuvan | anyone from our doc group attending the summit? | 10:19 |
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| mpt | bhuvan, I'm here, not sure if I count though | 02:34 |
| bhuvan | mpt, nice | 02:34 |
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| glatzor | Seveas: Hi, is mdke also at UDS? | 08:40 |
| mdke_ | glatzor: no | 08:41 |
| glatzor | Hi mdke_. Is there a summary about the inclusion plans of the official Ubuntu book? | 08:41 |
| mdke_ | glatzor: no, not yet. What did you have in mind? | 08:42 |
| glatzor | There is also a book about Ubuntu in German and so I asked the author if he would be interested in an integration of his book in the documentation. Since the book is available online I thought about mentioning it in the get-help section of the desktop guide | 08:43 |
| mdke_ | ah. We want to integrate the content of the official Ubuntu book into the documentation, rather than just mentioning it. Are you suggesting we could use some of the German book too? | 08:44 |
| glatzor | We have to investigate the licence issue. Currently the author doesn't allow a commercial reprint. | 08:46 |
| glatzor | The book has 450 pages. | 08:47 |
| glatzor | But I don't think it would be a good idea to fork the German documentation | 08:47 |
| mdke_ | fork in what way? | 08:48 |
| glatzor | It is not my plan to replace the current help by the book. That is what I wanted to make clear. | 08:49 |
| mdke_ | isn't the German help a translation of the English help? | 08:50 |
| glatzor | Yes. | 08:50 |
| glatzor | Plus some enhancements. | 08:50 |
| glatzor | Like links to German wiki pages or support offerings | 08:51 |
| glatzor | Or the special legal situation about codecs | 08:51 |
| mdke_ | right. Well, we're keen to integrate new material, especially on subjects where there is no coverage already. So we'll take what we are able to, from a license point of view | 08:51 |
| glatzor | mdke_: the author will join us here in some minutes, but he is quite busy at the moment | 08:55 |
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| elyps | hi | 08:56 |
| glatzor | hi elyps | 08:57 |
| glatzor | mdke_: elyps is the author | 08:57 |
| elyps | oder Marcus ;) | 08:57 |
| mdke_ | hello | 08:57 |
| elyps | oh hello | 08:58 |
| elyps | I'm sorry, I have only 15 minutes | 08:58 |
| mdke_ | glatzor has suggested that some material from your book might be incorporated into the documentation. Have you got any views on this? Is the book available in English? | 08:59 |
| elyps | no, its not available in english, not so far ;) | 09:00 |
| glatzor | mdke_: elyps: in a first stage I would add a link to your book's homepage in the German get help section. | 09:00 |
| elyps | It would be nice to integrate it into the documentation, somehow | 09:00 |
| mdke_ | well, I don't see any problem with adding a link. | 09:01 |
| elyps | ok, for me it's fine | 09:02 |
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| glatzor | mdke_: what about replacing the excerpts of the ubuntu book url? | 09:02 |
| glatzor | mdke_: do you know if there are any plans to translate the official book? | 09:03 |
| glatzor | elyps: could you provide the book in a format like html that could be incoparted into the help wiki? | 09:04 |
| mdke_ | glatzor: is that url in getting-help? (we plan to integrate the book into the system help, if we succeed, a link won't be necessary) | 09:04 |
| elyps | glatzor: yes, thats possible. | 09:05 |
| elyps | Are there plans for a translation into German? | 09:06 |
| glatzor | mdke_: booth books are currently not mentioned there. | 09:06 |
| glatzor | Ah, but I cannot add a new paragraph ... :/ | 09:07 |
| mdke_ | sure you can. | 09:07 |
| glatzor | Really? I tried once but failed. But perhaps I made a mistake | 09:07 |
| mdke_ | yes, should be fine | 09:09 |
| glatzor | elyps: so as a result of this I will add a link to dappers getting help section | 09:09 |
| elyps | mdke_: Are there any plans for a translation of the official book? I think that this is the main thing to talk about, because if there will be a translation, then it will make no sense to integrate my part too (?). | 09:11 |
| glatzor | elyps: mdke_: But for dapper I think we cannot do anymore. Do you still don't want to update the documentation of dapper, mdke? | 09:11 |
| elyps | glatzor: yes, that would be fine. | 09:11 |
| mdke_ | elyps: not yet. We intend to integrate the English version into the system documentation. That is translated | 09:12 |
| mdke_ | glatzor: I don't understand the question | 09:12 |
| mdke_ | elyps: if there is material which your book covers and the Official book doesn't, it might be interesting to look at it | 09:13 |
| elyps | mdke_: So the english version you are planning to integrate is already translated? | 09:13 |
| glatzor | mdke_: some time ago you said, that there wo't be any updates or fixes to the dapper documentation | 09:13 |
| mdke_ | elyps: no | 09:13 |
| mdke_ | glatzor: we don't add strings, no. But we may update the translations | 09:13 |
| mdke_ | elyps: the system documentation gets translated | 09:14 |
| elyps | mdke_: ok. | 09:14 |
| glatzor | mdke_: currently the desktop guide is about 100 pages, how far do you plan to extend it? | 09:14 |
| glatzor | Could we ship the book using the translation system? | 09:15 |
| mdke_ | glatzor: we don't plan to make guides any more. We will make topic based help, and we will extend it as much as possible to cover subjects that aren't covered. | 09:15 |
| mdke_ | glatzor: I don't understand that question either. Which book? Ship how? | 09:15 |
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| glatzor | mdke_: I haven't followed the doc list recently. Since the German book seems cover more issues it could be interesting to ship it in Ubuntu | 09:17 |
| glatzor | seems to | 09:17 |
| mdke_ | if we can integrate it in the material which we provide, then we are happy to add material on any topics. Often the style will need to be changed, because on-screen help requires a different style to a printed book. | 09:18 |
| elyps | But the basic thing is to translate my bok into english. Who is willing to do this? I dont have the time to do tihs alone and my english isn't good enough ;) | 09:20 |
| mdke_ | I don't know | 09:21 |
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| elyps | mdke_: glatzor: I have to leave. Good night and many thanks for your time. Bye. | 09:38 |
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| LaserJock | mdke_: around? | 11:14 |
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| mdke_ | LaserJock: yes, vaguely | 11:35 |
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| LaserJock | mdke_: I'm assuming the Packaging Guide will stay GPL | 11:39 |
| mdke_ | yeah, there were good reasons for that, weren't there? | 11:39 |
| LaserJock | well, all the Debian docs are GPl | 11:40 |
| LaserJock | although I'm not sure how that works | 11:40 |
| LaserJock | I only grab little bits | 11:40 |
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| mdke_ | LaserJock: ok | 11:45 |
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