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| chantra | hi, browsing https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Reviewing/Tips?action=show&redirect=ReviewingTips | 12:33 |
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| chantra | I landed on that page: http://revu.tauware.de/cgi-bin/trac.cgi/wiki/Revu1Building | 12:34 |
| chantra | it seems it needs some upgrade :) | 12:34 |
| chantra | so if there is any admin around... | 12:34 |
| chantra | trac-admin /srv/revu-trac upgrade | 12:34 |
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| stinkydave | Hello all | 01:14 |
| stinkydave | I was wondering if anyone could give some advice on a sound card, I am building a machine for a friend who is a musician. He wants to be able to record and produce music on the computer. I know what programs to use, I just need advice on what kind of sound card to get for the project. He is on a budget so a decent priced one would be prefferable | 01:17 |
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| crimsun | get an M-Audio Delta 1010LT | 01:19 |
| crimsun | why are you asking in here, btw? | 01:19 |
| crimsun | this is better suited in #alsa or #ubuntustudio | 01:19 |
| stinkydave | I just did a quick search on the internet, should of read into it more | 01:27 |
| stinkydave | thanks anyway | 01:27 |
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| crimsun | err, tabs gone from apps? I hope they're joking... | 01:56 |
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| Burgwork | it is Keybuk and seb128, of course they are | 01:57 |
| crimsun | I figured, but a lot of context is lost in text | 01:58 |
| Burgwork | yes, yes it is | 01:58 |
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| jdong | Can a MOTU take a look at bug 42269 and the fixed source packages I've linked to on the report? | 03:16 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 42269 in azureus "Does not create a tray icon" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/42269 | 03:16 |
| Fujitsu | Evenign jdong. | 03:16 |
| jdong | :D | 03:16 |
| === Fujitsu looks. | ||
| jdong | oh look, right on cue :D | 03:16 |
| === Fujitsu screams. | ||
| Fujitsu | Evil Java, and no debdiff. | 03:17 |
| Fujitsu | (ie. attach a debdiff, please) | 03:17 |
| jdong | Fujitsu: how the heck do I attach a debdiff for a fix to an orig.tar.gz, and debdiff .png files? | 03:18 |
| Fujitsu | M.. | 03:18 |
| Fujitsu | Good point. | 03:18 |
| jdong | Fujitsu: all I did was refreshed *.png in orig.tar.gz with ones from Azureus's source package | 03:18 |
| Fujitsu | A debdiff will still work, just... not for the images, I guess. | 03:18 |
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| === Fujitsu does it himself after lunch. | ||
| jdong | Fujitsu: the bug was that the orig.tar.gz has corrupted *.png files.... | 03:19 |
| Fujitsu | Fun. | 03:19 |
| Fujitsu | So it's just the .pngs that have been changed? | 03:19 |
| jdong | right | 03:19 |
| jdong | so a debdiff would be blank | 03:19 |
| jdong | except for my bumped changelog entry :D | 03:19 |
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| Fujitsu | Hey dholbach. | 03:20 |
| Hobbsee | hey dholbach@ | 03:20 |
| dholbach | Fujitsu: thanks for the confidence | 03:20 |
| === Hobbsee hugs dholbach | ||
| dholbach | but somebody else could have just taken it to the wiki themselves already | 03:20 |
| dholbach | so that's not blocked on me | 03:20 |
| Fujitsu | Of course, but doko said you were doing it :P | 03:20 |
| dholbach | yeah, I read it | 03:20 |
| Fujitsu | You read it before you joined? | 03:21 |
| dholbach | yes, on his screen | 03:21 |
| dholbach | we're at UDS and busy with stuff | 03:21 |
| Fujitsu | Ah, of course. | 03:21 |
| Fujitsu | How's UDS going? | 03:22 |
| dholbach | busy :) | 03:22 |
| dholbach | but good, very good | 03:22 |
| Fujitsu | Has beryl-by-default been scheduled yet? I must get a SIP account before then... | 03:22 |
| === lophyte wishes he was there | ||
| dholbach | I'm not sure | 03:23 |
| dholbach | people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/uds-mtv should have it in a bit | 03:23 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: heh | 03:24 |
| === minghua_ is now known as minghua | ||
| dholbach | ok, they kick me out the room - i'll write it up and put it on the 'official' SRU page | 03:25 |
| dholbach | see you tomorrow | 03:25 |
| dholbach | or something *wave* | 03:25 |
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| Fujitsu | jdong: (back from lunch) That package isn't workable. The orig.tar.gz has to have a new version, like 2.5.0.0.ubuntu1 or something. | 03:43 |
| jdong | Fujitsu: sorry, I'm no packaging expert by any measure.... | 03:44 |
| jdong | can you fix it pretty please? | 03:44 |
| Fujitsu | Of course. | 03:44 |
| jdong | thank you :) | 03:44 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: sorry? | 03:44 |
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| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: you dont change the .orig.tar.gz version, i'm hoping. and certainly not to 2.5.0.0.ubuntu1 | 03:44 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: What? | 03:45 |
| Fujitsu | Hey LaserJock. | 03:45 |
| Hobbsee | hey LaserJock | 03:45 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: You do if there are changes in the orig.tar.gz. | 03:45 |
| Hobbsee | and you're changing that because? | 03:45 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: There are corrupt binaries in the .orig.tar.gz, and you can't fix those in the .diff.gz. | 03:45 |
| Fujitsu | (and jdong is changing that, not me :P) | 03:45 |
| Hobbsee | oh right. i thought you could. remove them in the clean rule, and add the new ones in via a patch. but if they're binaries.. | 03:46 |
| Hobbsee | good point | 03:46 |
| Fujitsu | And can you recommend a better versioning than tacking ubuntu1 on the end? | 03:46 |
| jdong | Fujitsu, Hobbsee.... so there's no way to correct when a maintainer goofs an orig.tar.gz other than to bump the version? | 03:46 |
| minghua | you can, it's just going to be really REALLY ugly | 03:46 |
| Fujitsu | minghua: Not tooo ugly. | 03:47 |
| Hobbsee | minghua: true. depends what the binary is, i guess | 03:47 |
| Hobbsee | oh this is the azureus one? | 03:47 |
| Fujitsu | Just, uuencode them, maybe... But that's messy. | 03:47 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: Correct. | 03:47 |
| minghua | Fujitsu: yeah that's what I was thinking | 03:47 |
| Fujitsu | I've seen that done in something, but it's messy. | 03:48 |
| === Hobbsee suspects dpkg-buildpackage will whinge irrecovably if you do anything else | ||
| minghua | I would go for a new .orig.tar.gz | 03:48 |
| Fujitsu | minghua: As would I. | 03:48 |
| jdong | 2.5.0.0.1? :d | 03:48 |
| Hobbsee | bleh, fine then :) | 03:48 |
| jdong | lol | 03:48 |
| minghua | but we probably want to talk with upstream/debian first | 03:48 |
| Fujitsu | It'd be 2.5.0.0ubuntu1, I think... But what minghua said: we should talk to Debian first. | 03:48 |
| jdong | minghua: why would we talk to debian? They have a valid orig.tar.gz :D | 03:48 |
| Fujitsu | jdong: Only ours is affected? | 03:49 |
| jdong | Fujitsu: correct | 03:49 |
| minghua | so that we don't accidentally step on their foot for next release | 03:49 |
| jdong | Fujitsu: our azureus packages are different than Debian's | 03:49 |
| Fujitsu | How the fsck did that happen, jdong? | 03:49 |
| jdong | Fujitsu: ask doko? | 03:49 |
| jdong | it ain't my package | 03:49 |
| jdong | I'm just trying to fix it | 03:49 |
| Fujitsu | Oh, I see a -0ubuntu2, oops. | 03:49 |
| Hobbsee | oh yes, i remember looking to merge azureus | 03:49 |
| Fujitsu | minghua: How could we step on their feet? If we take ubuntu1 on the end, it can't interfere with a version they make in the future... | 03:49 |
| minghua | jdong: I see. then no need to talk to debian, I suppose. pardon me for jumping in the discussion in the middle :-) | 03:49 |
| Fujitsu | Hobbsee: That was silly of you. | 03:50 |
| jdong | minghua: no problem | 03:50 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: heh. actually, it wasnt too bad. but it didnt build. and involved lots of guess work | 03:50 |
| jdong | I remember trying to spend a few hours on packaging azureus too | 03:50 |
| jdong | I didn't even git it to build | 03:50 |
| === Fujitsu renames the upstream tarball to azureus_2.5.0.0ubuntu1.orig.tar.gz, changes the version in the changelog appropriately, and tests. | ||
| minghua | Fujitsu: what if upstream has a 2.5.0.0.1? | 03:51 |
| Fujitsu | minghua: Then that is > 2.5.0.0ubuntu1. | 03:51 |
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| jdong | so now we have a 2.5.0.0ubuntu1-0ubuntu1 package? | 03:52 |
| LaserJock | hi guys | 03:52 |
| LaserJock | and Hobbsee | 03:52 |
| Hobbsee | heya LaserJock. :) | 03:52 |
| LaserJock | sounds like there will be some exciting things in MOTU land | 03:53 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: You may recall we have a linsmith startup-crasher in Edgy, which upstream released a fix for yesterday. I've backported the fix, it all works fine... Shall I go ahead with SRU stuff? | 03:53 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: eg? | 03:53 |
| Fujitsu | jdong: It seems that new tarball actually fixes things, which is good. | 03:54 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: how so? | 03:54 |
| LaserJock | having a MOTU leadership team (Council Greyskull?) | 03:55 |
| Hobbsee | ah, nice :) | 03:55 |
| minghua | Fujitsu: you are right about the version, go ahead then | 03:55 |
| jdong | Fujitsu: I wouldn't have spent time uploading it somewhere if it didn't do anything :D | 03:55 |
| jdong | heh, I don't really use Azureus anymore anyway | 03:56 |
| jdong | but some people are really crazy about it | 03:56 |
| minghua | (although I still worry they may release 2.5.0.0take2 or something, but I am just paranoid :-) | 03:56 |
| jdong | GCJ makes it quirky | 03:56 |
| jdong | minghua: they have never done that yet | 03:56 |
| LaserJock | perhaps having core-devs reviewing stuff more | 03:56 |
| Hobbsee | LaserJock: right, yep | 03:57 |
| jdong | minghua: and you can't do that with a bittorrent client.... you can't represent that version with the protocol :) | 03:57 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: `stuff'? | 03:57 |
| Fujitsu | What a nice version number: | 03:57 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: well, Mark wants to sort of get communication between core-dev and MOTu better | 03:57 |
| Fujitsu | azureus 2.5.0.0ubuntu1-0ubuntu1 | 03:57 |
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| Fujitsu | LaserJock: What stuff will they be reviewing, though? | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | so the idea would be that core-devs would include reviewing MOTU patches for Main packages | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | in their day-to-day activity | 03:58 |
| plugwash | Fujitsu can't you just make it 2.5.0.0ubuntu1-1 ? | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | that way the core-devs see what's going on | 03:58 |
| Fujitsu | plugwash: No, it has to be -0ubuntu1 because it's not in Debian. | 03:58 |
| minghua | core-devs had better take good care of main packages first, like tetex :-( | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | and we get a chance to learn from some really knowledgeable people | 03:58 |
| LaserJock | well, also on that front | 03:59 |
| Fujitsu | Poor tetex :( | 03:59 |
| LaserJock | it looks like Edubuntu will be expanding | 03:59 |
| plugwash | Fujitsu since you've messed arround with the version number of the upstream tarball i don't see how the debian conflict avoidence versioning is any help anymore | 03:59 |
| LaserJock | we'll be including some science software in Main | 03:59 |
| Fujitsu | plugwash: That's beside the point. Policy says we HAVE to use -0ubuntu1. | 03:59 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: OK, so we need you to be -core-dev. Simple. | 03:59 |
| LaserJock | yep | 04:00 |
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| Hobbsee | well, off to the lab | 04:00 |
| LaserJock | but that means that science packages might get a little more attention | 04:00 |
| Fujitsu | That will be good, although I can imagine you'd be spending more of your time on some other stuff (like Edubuntu) | 04:00 |
| LaserJock | there has been a lot of community and governance talk | 04:00 |
| Fujitsu | Any news on the new CC/TB? | 04:01 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: well, one of my tasks as a core-dev in Edubuntu would be munitioning Main science packages | 04:01 |
| LaserJock | bah, stupid spell check | 04:01 |
| Fujitsu | Hahah | 04:01 |
| LaserJock | *maintaining | 04:01 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: well, Mark is looking for nominations | 04:02 |
| bddebian | +1 from me :-) | 04:02 |
| LaserJock | he'll pick some and then in the case of TB all devs will vote | 04:02 |
| LaserJock | and in the case of CC members will vote (somehow) | 04:02 |
| Fujitsu | Member poll on LP, maybe. | 04:03 |
| LaserJock | well, there was discussion of perhaps using different voting schemes | 04:04 |
| LaserJock | anyway, that'll get worked out | 04:04 |
| Fujitsu | Presumably. | 04:04 |
| LaserJock | but basically all of the membership approval will be shifted away from CC/TB | 04:04 |
| LaserJock | so MOTU will be able to approve Ubuntu members | 04:04 |
| LaserJock | and new MOTUs | 04:05 |
| Fujitsu | Well, that will be interesting. | 04:05 |
| === Fujitsu prods geser with a membership stick. | ||
| LaserJock | hopefully as the week gets further along well get more concrete stuff | 04:06 |
| Fujitsu | Goodo... | 04:07 |
| Fujitsu | Sounds like there are some biiig changes happening. | 04:07 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 04:07 |
| LaserJock | although nothing that I'd say is radical | 04:07 |
| LaserJock | mostly just formalizing things that have existed to some degree already | 04:08 |
| LaserJock | but not documented or maybe widely understood | 04:08 |
| Fujitsu | OK. | 04:08 |
| Fujitsu | Which specs have you been to? | 04:08 |
| LaserJock | too many to remember | 04:08 |
| lophyte | hey guys | 04:08 |
| LaserJock | several Edubuntu ones naturally | 04:08 |
| LaserJock | Edubuntu-on-2-cds | 04:08 |
| Fujitsu | Hi lophyte. | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | TB | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | new developers | 04:09 |
| LaserJock | the new-developers one was the last one I went to | 04:09 |
| Fujitsu | What was decided in the new-developers one? Just that they should be approved by their respective groups, not the TB? | 04:10 |
| lophyte | I still wish I was down there.. boo-urns | 04:10 |
| LaserJock | mdz did a rather wonderful job of outlining exactly what we expect a MOTU and core dev to be | 04:10 |
| Fujitsu | Is there a recording/transcript around? | 04:10 |
| LaserJock | just a sec | 04:12 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: gah, my internet is weird, I think it is wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopers or something like that | 04:16 |
| Fujitsu | Thanks.. | 04:16 |
| Fujitsu | They actually update the specs? | 04:16 |
| TheMuso | There is no spec on the wiki for New Developers yet. | 04:17 |
| LaserJock | well the wiki page ^^ is basically the spec page | 04:18 |
| LaserJock | more or less defining what we want to see in prospective devs | 04:18 |
| Fujitsu | We can upload to -proposed without prior approval, right? | 04:24 |
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| LaserJock | Fujitsu: I think that's the way I read the policy | 04:36 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: Looks like it. | 04:36 |
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| zakame | hello all | 07:12 |
| Hobbsee | heya | 07:12 |
| Fujitsu | Hi zakame. | 07:14 |
| Hobbsee | interesting @ the membership management | 07:16 |
| Fujitsu | What, MOTUs being able to approve them? | 07:17 |
| Hobbsee | yeah | 07:18 |
| === Hobbsee wonders if all MOTU's actually want to do that. what would the quorum be? | ||
| Hobbsee | being part of the kcc myself, i cant see people actually wanting to do it terribly much. | 07:18 |
| TheMuso | Hobbsee: What spec is that? | 07:21 |
| Hobbsee | TheMuso: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MembershipManagement | 07:22 |
| TheMuso | Thanks. | 07:22 |
| StevenK | I can't see that being a good thing, personally. | 07:24 |
| StevenK | I would rather justify my skills and needs to a seperate third party and have them sign off on it. | 07:25 |
| Fujitsu | It's understandable that they want to alleviate load on the CC. | 07:25 |
| TheMuso | Where is motu approval mentioned? | 07:25 |
| Hobbsee | Fujitsu: yeah, well. we've seen that lately | 07:25 |
| StevenK | Each team sorting itself out is a bit messy. | 07:25 |
| StevenK | To be honest, I'm quite interested to see what happens with the tech-board and new-developers. | 07:26 |
| Hobbsee | yes, what isnt mentioned there is that people who are good at coding arent necessarily good at the whole management/community side of things. well, not as good - adn we dont want to find that what's happened to the CC happens to the MOTU's | 07:26 |
| TheMuso | StevenK: Me too. | 07:26 |
| Fujitsu | StevenK: Same... I'd really like recordings of those sessions :( | 07:26 |
| StevenK | I'm interested in the outcome, not the discussion. | 07:27 |
| Hobbsee | i think there are some recordings - just not public yet | 07:27 |
| TheMuso | Well Ng in #udsmtv said that the voip stuff is being recorded. | 07:27 |
| Fujitsu | Well, the discussion will hint about the outcome before it actually happens :P | 07:27 |
| Hobbsee | true | 07:27 |
| TheMuso | But someone will have to pull them a part and make them available. | 07:27 |
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| Fujitsu | When is it? | 07:30 |
| StevenK | 10am PST | 07:30 |
| Hobbsee | whihc is when, local? | 07:30 |
| Fujitsu | That's -5? | 07:31 |
| StevenK | 5am | 07:31 |
| crimsun | -8 | 07:31 |
| Hobbsee | ouch | 07:33 |
| Hobbsee | i'll pass | 07:33 |
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| StevenK | Heh | 07:34 |
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| === Fujitsu doesn't do 5am unless it's something that it's important to be at, like a TB meeting that I'm up for grilling at, and it's not school that day. | ||
| Hobbsee | yeah, well | 07:36 |
| TheMuso | Is tomorrow's schedule out already? | 07:36 |
| StevenK | Yup. | 07:36 |
| TheMuso | Wow. | 07:36 |
| TheMuso | THey're actually planning ahead this time. | 07:36 |
| === Hobbsee has school, or uni, or both, most, if not all days of the week :P hence the lack of early starts | ||
| Hobbsee | wow, nice | 07:36 |
| TheMuso | Ok, I'm getting up at 4AM. | 07:37 |
| TheMuso | There is a spec I wanna join in on. | 07:37 |
| StevenK | Which? | 07:37 |
| TheMuso | Orca laptop support/. | 07:37 |
| Hobbsee | devfarm? | 07:37 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 07:37 |
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| joejaxx | Fujitsu: haha | 08:01 |
| joejaxx | i whould do it :P | 08:02 |
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| Mez | anyone here who was in the MOTU BoF today ? | 08:35 |
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| Hobbsee | bug #64841 | 12:29 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 64841 in wlassistant "wireless assisant does not connect in edgy" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64841 | 12:29 |
| fernando | morning all | 12:38 |
| LaserJock | hi fernando | 12:40 |
| Hobbsee | !info wlassistant edgy | 12:43 |
| ubotu | wlassistant: User friendly KDE frontend for wireless network connection. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.5-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 115 kB, installed size 572 kB | 12:43 |
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| jlow | anyone been having any problems with Pac Digital Qmaster Sata cards | 03:18 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 04:17 |
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| minghua | hi bddebian | 04:20 |
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| bddebian | Hello minghua | 04:20 |
| minghua | bddebian: I actually have a question for you | 04:20 |
| bddebian | Uh oh | 04:20 |
| minghua | bddebian: I am working on sending our .desktop files to debian | 04:21 |
| minghua | (if you've seen my mail to ubuntu-science) | 04:21 |
| bddebian | Don't ask me, I get in trouble for that :-) | 04:21 |
| minghua | bddebian: I noticed most of uploads are from you | 04:21 |
| minghua | bddebian: heh. what kind of trouble exactly? you might want me to avoid those troubles | 04:21 |
| bddebian | minghua: All kidding aside, seb128 suggests sending them upstream instead of to Debian where possible | 04:22 |
| minghua | bddebian: but my real question is: have you send any of them to debian/upstream already? | 04:22 |
| minghua | bddebian: I hardly know any of the upstream... | 04:22 |
| bddebian | Yes, just about any I have added I have tried to send either upstream or to Debian | 04:22 |
| minghua | I see | 04:22 |
| bddebian | At least for Edgy | 04:23 |
| minghua | bddebian: is there a track record somewhere? | 04:23 |
| bddebian | I wasn't as good about it with Dapper :-( | 04:23 |
| minghua | I probably should leave desktop files alone when sending patches to Debian, then | 04:23 |
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| bddebian | minghua: My personal belief is better to have an unstranslated .desktop than none but I was voted down on that :-( | 04:24 |
| minghua | Hmm, yes, another point to consider | 04:25 |
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| jonh_wendell | Hi. Who cares about octplot? there is a serious bug in package shipped with edgy. Bug 65398 | 05:26 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 65398 in octplot "[UNMETDEPS] octplot has unmet dependencies" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/65398 | 05:26 |
| geser | jonh_wendell: someone needs to check if a rebuild fixes it and then go through the motu-sru process to the fix included into edgy | 05:36 |
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| jonh_wendell | geser: i guess just a little change in its dependency solves the problem... | 05:37 |
| geser | if the package get rebuild it will pick up the current dependencies | 05:38 |
| jonh_wendell | geser: any idea when someone will get this job? :) | 05:39 |
| Mez | hmm | 05:39 |
| Mez | feisty open ? | 05:39 |
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| geser | jonh_wendell: I've just put octplot into my pbuilder | 05:43 |
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| jonh_wendell | geser: pardon me, but what does your pbuilder mean? | 05:44 |
| geser | pbuilder is chroot environment used for (re-)building packages | 05:45 |
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| jonh_wendell | geser: do you think that corrected package will be in edgy-updates? | 05:47 |
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| geser | as the current package is uninstallable the chances are quite good to get it into edgy-updates | 05:50 |
| bettsp | I'm gonna be a total n00b, but I'd like to start getting involved in maintaining packages in Ubuntu; I've been reading the stuff online on the wiki, but where do I initially begin? | 05:51 |
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| jonh_wendell | geser: great! | 05:52 |
| bettsp | I've done a lot of development work, but not much in maintaining | 05:52 |
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| geser | jonh_wendell: a rebuild seems to fix it | 05:52 |
| jonh_wendell | geser: did you see the bug i've opened? bug 70750 | 05:52 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 70750 in octplot "New version from debian. Please sync." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/70750 | 05:52 |
| geser | yes, but a new version won't make it into edgy-updates | 05:53 |
| jonh_wendell | geser: ok, no problem! thanks | 05:56 |
| geser | bettsp: currently is everyone waiting till feisty gets open | 05:58 |
| geser | then the merging fun starts | 05:58 |
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| jonh_wendell | geser: just more q question: When will it released in edgy-updates? tomorrow? :) | 05:59 |
| geser | definitely not | 05:59 |
| geser | first I need to file a bug for a sru approval | 05:59 |
| geser | if it gets accepted then a package can be uploaded to edgy-proposed where it will be tested | 06:00 |
| geser | and then it depends how long it takes to get 5 ACKs for the fixed package (but at least 7 ways) | 06:01 |
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| geser | in total I would estimate 2-3 weeks till it hits edgy-updates (if everything works as it should) | 06:02 |
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| jonh_wendell | uau | 06:02 |
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| ajmitch | morning | 06:03 |
| bddebian | Heya ajmitch | 06:03 |
| jonh_wendell | geser: thanks a lot. i'm going to tell that to people here | 06:03 |
| Mez | is feisty actually open now ? | 06:03 |
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| luckyone | can we get folding@home added to our repos please? | 06:28 |
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| ChaosFan | wg 39 | 06:45 |
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| Mez | FYI: those in the MOTU BoF, please speak up the line quality is awful | 07:05 |
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| CarlFK | what is the Self Appointed Benevolent Dictator like acronym? | 08:45 |
| psusi | sabdafl? | 08:45 |
| bddebian | SABDAFL | 08:45 |
| CarlFK | A for life... what is the a? | 08:46 |
| === psusi has no idea what it is short for | ||
| bddebian | CarlFK: I was just wondering that myself | 08:46 |
| bddebian | Appointed? | 08:46 |
| CarlFK | could be ... | 08:46 |
| bddebian | Nah, seems redundant | 08:46 |
| Plug | it is | 08:47 |
| Plug | sabdfl | 08:47 |
| Plug | (not sabdafl). | 08:47 |
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| bddebian | Ah yes | 08:47 |
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| giskard | bddebian: and AFL? | 09:00 |
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| giskard | ehrr only fl | 09:01 |
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| geser | what is the next version after 0.3.5-2ubuntu1 suitable for edgy-proposed? | 09:26 |
| crimsun | 0.3.5-2ubuntu1.1 | 09:26 |
| geser | I'm preparing a debdiff for a sru (to be filed). which bug reports should be mentioned in the debdiff? only the one which is fixed or also the one for the sru? | 09:28 |
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| crimsun | both bug reports. | 09:28 |
| geser | thanks | 09:29 |
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| hub | bhale: are you on crack? | 09:40 |
| bhale | hub: hah? | 09:40 |
| hub | bhale: didn't you just write this: http://www.figuiere.net/hub/blog/?2006/11/07/474-webkit-and-gnome#c2382 | 09:41 |
| bhale | I did | 09:41 |
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| hub | bhale: then you are a complete troll | 09:41 |
| bhale | I am genuinely curious as to howit makes sense | 09:41 |
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| hub | reusing *free software* for *free software* | 09:42 |
| hub | ie KHTML in Gnome by way of WebKit? | 09:42 |
| hub | you are just a troll | 09:43 |
| bhale | I didnt say "free software" once | 09:43 |
| hub | bhale: you say "proponent of MacOS X" | 09:43 |
| bhale | really my comment related more to your comments about mono than anything to do with webkit | 09:43 |
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| hub | bhale: then why do you post here? to look like a fool? | 09:43 |
| Q-FUNK | arf | 09:43 |
| crimsun | can you guys please take the vitrolics to msg or something? | 09:44 |
| lotusleaf | I like burritos | 09:44 |
| hub | crimsun: I'll just shut up | 09:44 |
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| hub | crimsun: but FYI I just posted a link above to explain | 09:52 |
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| LaserJock | \o/ | 09:59 |
| bddebian | Heya LaserJock | 10:00 |
| LaserJock | hi bddebian | 10:00 |
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| TheMuso | I guess its lunch time for everyone over there atm | 10:03 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: Sounds about right. | 10:04 |
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| TheMuso | StevenK: Heya! | 10:04 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: Hey. | 10:04 |
| LaserJock | uggg, what a day | 10:04 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: Did you end up getting up at 4am? | 10:04 |
| LaserJock | I thought my boss was going to kill me this morning | 10:04 |
| TheMuso | StevenK: Yep, for two specs that I was glad I attended. | 10:04 |
| StevenK | Nice. | 10:05 |
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| LaserJock | TheMuso: which ones? | 10:05 |
| TheMuso | LaserJock: Both the Orca specs. | 10:05 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: How was it? | 10:05 |
| TheMuso | Orca Laptop support, and Orca PulseAudio. | 10:05 |
| TheMuso | StevenK: Good. The laptop support one was a great session. | 10:05 |
| StevenK | TheMuso: You could hear everything? What I mean was, what was the setup? | 10:05 |
| TheMuso | VOIP with a few people in the room, and three of us on VOIP. | 10:06 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: you here? | 10:08 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: Yep. | 10:08 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: check this out from a spec "The MOTUScience team will compile list of educational apps suitable for universities. These apps will move to main and on the add-on CD." | 10:08 |
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| Fujitsu | Eek. | 10:08 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: I might need your brain for some of that :-) | 10:09 |
| Fujitsu | Has an approximate number been specified? Or a size? | 10:10 |
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| Q-FUNK | hm. redundancy r us. | 10:11 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: no, we just need to be aware that they will be going into Main | 10:11 |
| LaserJock | so we'll want a tight set | 10:11 |
| Fujitsu | OK... So you'd better hurry up with your -core-dev application :P | 10:12 |
| LaserJock | just the most best | 10:12 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: hehe, well I had to create a reason for them to make me one ;-) | 10:12 |
| Fujitsu | True. | 10:12 |
| LaserJock | this is a preliminary spec for Edubuntu | 10:12 |
| LaserJock | but I think it'll get approved | 10:13 |
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| === Fujitsu thinks what sort of stuff could be suitable for universities. | ||
| LaserJock | high school and universities if we can | 10:13 |
| LaserJock | well | 10:13 |
| LaserJock | in essence all grade levels | 10:13 |
| LaserJock | but the hard ones will be high school and uni | 10:14 |
| LaserJock | as there is a lot more out there and a lot more to cover | 10:14 |
| Fujitsu | maxima, perhaps? | 10:14 |
| Fujitsu | There's tooo many packages to choose from :S | 10:14 |
| LaserJock | hehe | 10:14 |
| LaserJock | well, maxima did seem like a good choice | 10:14 |
| LaserJock | ghemical is great for chemistry | 10:15 |
| Fujitsu | I haven't done much with the chemistry stuff. | 10:16 |
| LaserJock | well, I can handle that one I think ;-) | 10:16 |
| LaserJock | stellarium would be very cool for astronomy | 10:17 |
| Fujitsu | Yeah, that's very nice. | 10:17 |
| LaserJock | but since space was a problem it would never go on a single-cd version | 10:17 |
| LaserJock | it's a rather large package because of the data | 10:17 |
| Fujitsu | Of course. | 10:18 |
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| LaserJock | man, I have such a headache today | 10:20 |
| LaserJock | I left the UDS at 6:00pm | 10:21 |
| Fujitsu | :( | 10:21 |
| LaserJock | left Mt. View at 9:00pm | 10:21 |
| LaserJock | drove ~450 km and got home at around 1:00am | 10:21 |
| Fujitsu | Erm... | 10:21 |
| Fujitsu | You drove home!? | 10:21 |
| LaserJock | worked on presentation for today until 5:00am | 10:22 |
| LaserJock | went to bed | 10:22 |
| bhale | LaserJock: wasnt fun? | 10:22 |
| bhale | LaserJock: had to get out? | 10:22 |
| LaserJock | got up at 8:30am | 10:22 |
| LaserJock | worked on presentation (will my boss was upset at me) until 12:00 | 10:22 |
| LaserJock | and and just got back from that | 10:22 |
| LaserJock | bhale: it was loads of fun | 10:23 |
| LaserJock | I just had a departmental presentation to do today | 10:23 |
| bhale | a laser? | 10:23 |
| LaserJock | and I actually wrote it the hour before I gave it | 10:23 |
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| LaserJock | while my boss was all irritated with me | 10:23 |
| bhale | i wrote a talk the morning of a conference | 10:23 |
| LaserJock | I suppose I should have told him I was going to UDS ;-) | 10:24 |
| bhale | it worked out ok | 10:24 |
| LaserJock | anyway | 10:24 |
| LaserJock | I'm totally out of it and have a headache | 10:24 |
| LaserJock | and I have to talk with my boss again in 1.5 hr | 10:24 |
| LaserJock | what a day | 10:24 |
| LaserJock | oh, then I've got to go vote | 10:24 |
| LaserJock | I keep forgetting | 10:25 |
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| Fujitsu | LaserJock: That bug about LyX's menus using ISO-8859-1 rather than UTF-8 has quite a number of duplicates these days :( | 10:34 |
| LaserJock | bah | 10:34 |
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| Fujitsu | Ooh, I like bug #55008! | 10:38 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 55008 in xcircuit "POT files not available" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/55008 | 10:38 |
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| === lupine_85 wonders if the ubuntu devs could be persuaded to put the amd64 edgy kernel into the 32bit repos, with a special name | ||
| === plugwash guesses that its too late for a change like that in edgy | ||
| lupine_85 | yeah, i guess. i'm using a 64bit arch kernel atm | 11:39 |
| LaserJock | every added kernel package causes lot of maintaince | 11:39 |
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| lupine_85 | they just got rid of a load :p | 11:40 |
| zul | very very late | 11:40 |
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| lupine_85 | I bet not very many people are doing it, though | 11:40 |
| lupine_85 | everyone I spoke to about it was of the opinion it would b0rken my install | 11:40 |
| LaserJock | hi zul | 11:41 |
| Fujitsu | This VoIP setup isn't working very well :( | 11:41 |
| zul | hey LaserJock why arent you here? | 11:41 |
| LaserJock | I left | 11:42 |
| zul | ah | 11:42 |
| LaserJock | I had a presentation today | 11:42 |
| ajmitch | hi LaserJock | 11:42 |
| zul | coming back? | 11:42 |
| LaserJock | ajmitch! | 11:42 |
| LaserJock | zul: sadly no | 11:42 |
| Fujitsu | Hey ajmitch. | 11:42 |
| ajmitch | hello Fujitsu | 11:42 |
| LaserJock | how did MOTU specing go? | 11:42 |
| zul | LaserJock: that sucks...good i think | 11:42 |
| ajmitch | it's gone fairly well, talked more about the leadership team of some sort | 11:43 |
| LaserJock | good, good | 11:43 |
| ajmitch | & processes for accepting new MOTUs | 11:43 |
| LaserJock | anything written down yet? | 11:43 |
| LaserJock | I'd like to be a tiny bit involved if I can | 11:43 |
| ajmitch | not much written down yt, I think | 11:45 |
| LaserJock | k | 11:45 |
| LaserJock | heh, I see mdz edited wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/ | 11:45 |
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