[12:11] <eaglehawk> anybody who can help me with tabletpc pen
[12:12] <dennister> well, 2 late...i dropped trying to get 64-bit to work...much happier with i386 now
[12:12] <Jucato> hi saki, dennister!
[12:12] <mia> h3sp4wn: gnash is supposed to be in my repository?
[12:12] <h3sp4wn> mia: build it from svn any version in a repository will be out of date
[12:12] <jordan_> yeah i got a question again xD
[12:13] <jordan_> whats the difference between i386, i586 and i686 cause my pc supports all of em
[12:13] <justin1278> hello
[12:13] <h3sp4wn> more instructions
[12:13] <h3sp4wn> 586 and 686 are supersets of 386
[12:14] <jordan_> i see
[12:14] <justin1278> i just noticed that the add/remove programs icon in my Kmenu is gone
[12:14] <justin1278> how can i get it back?
[12:14] <donutface-> right now kubuntu freezes at 40% :|
[12:14] <jordan_> unlock the panels
[12:14] <dennister> so has anyone ever used a dns-forwarder? i'm sick of rogers' fussing with my ip address...so much work
[12:14] <justin1278> they are unlocked
[12:14] <h3sp4wn> but you get some cpu's like via's c3 which are not fully compatible with anything newer than 486 (yet still pretty fast)
[12:14] <jordan_> go to menu editor
[12:14] <justin1278> ok
[12:14] <dennister> and i need a static ip addy
[12:15] <jordan_> create a new entry
[12:15] <donutface-> you mean a dynamic dns for your domain?
[12:15] <jordan_> and the command is "Adept Installer: install and remove software packages"
[12:15] <h3sp4wn> dennister: so use ez-ipdate with dyndns.org
[12:15] <jordan_> no its not
[12:15] <jordan_> xD
[12:15] <dennister> h3sp4wn: yes, that's the one i was thinking of using
[12:15] <jordan_> sorry
[12:15] <jordan_> im blind
[12:15] <dennister> it works well?
[12:15] <donutface-> zoneedit also is quite good and as far as i know sveasoft supports it so you can have your router automatically update
[12:15] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[12:15] <jordan_> thats the comment
[12:15] <justin1278> ok
[12:15] <jordan_> "kdesu adept_installer"
[12:16] <jordan_> is the command for the program to run
[12:16] <h3sp4wn> dennister: ez-ipupdate is pretty good
[12:16] <dennister> donutface-: i don't have a domain, but a small home network i need a static ip for
[12:16] <jordan_> pick a name and icon
[12:16] <jordan_> and it should work
[12:16] <donutface-> you wont get a static ip though
[12:16] <donutface-> youll only get a domain that points to an ip
[12:16] <h3sp4wn> donutface-: sveasoft sucks bad all his latest version does is steal openwrt's code and not distribute source
[12:16] <dennister> h3sp4wn: thx...i may get that tomorrow
[12:16] <justin1278> jordan: it didn't work
[12:16] <donutface-> h3sp4wn i use openwrt myself
[12:17] <donutface-> but thats not everyones cup of tea
[12:17] <h3sp4wn> donutface-: so why recommend sveasoft
[12:17] <jordan_> what did you set the command to?
[12:17] <justin1278> Adept Installer: install and remove software packages
[12:17] <jordan_> ah
[12:17] <jordan_> that was my fault
[12:17] <dennister> donutface-: yes, or something similar to what u said :) i was reading up on it a coupla weeks ago
[12:17] <Arafangion> This is bloody wierd. SOMETHING is causing random printouts of my chat!
[12:17] <jordan_> thats the comment
[12:17] <jordan_> the command is
[12:17] <jordan_> kdesu adept_installer
[12:17] <dennister> and i'm just fed up with rogers at the moment
[12:17] <donutface-> because i never used dd-wrt and im not sure if it has zoneedit support?
[12:18] <Arafangion> Just discovered, not for the first time, that I've got a printout of an irc conversation (irssi, urxvt, screen, KDE)
[12:18] <dennister> hey flaccid :)
[12:18] <noxs> how to add truetype fonts to kubuntu for using wine?
[12:18] <Arafangion> What the heck could be causing it? (Any key combos?)
[12:18] <justin1278> jordan: it says that command is not found
[12:18] <flaccid> heya denni
[12:18] <jordan_> do you use Adept?
[12:18] <noxs> i do not have any letters written down, while a "wined" program starts..
[12:18] <justin1278> jordan: yes
[12:19] <jordan_> thats odd
[12:19] <jordan_> kdesu adept_installer is your command?
[12:19] <dennister> hows's it goin'? flaccid?
[12:19] <justin1278> jordan: yes
[12:19] <jordan_> try runthat in a terminal
[12:19] <jordan_> and see what happens
[12:19] <flaccid> not bad thanks at new job
[12:19] <justin1278> jordan: ok one moment
[12:19] <Arafangion> I'm asking for hints/suggestings and even outright guesses.
[12:19] <dennister> oh really? doing what?
[12:20] <dennister> <--used to be in hr, so always interested in job-talk
[12:20] <flaccid> web developer
[12:20] <justin1278> jordan: it says adept_installer not found
[12:20] <dennister> congrats
[12:20] <jordan_> Arafangion: unplug your printer
[12:20] <jordan_> try
[12:20] <jordan_> just adept?
[12:20] <dennister> do u use mysql in ur web development?
[12:20] <jordan_> as in "adept"
[12:21] <justin1278> jordan: adept: command not found
[12:21] <Arafangion> jordan_: :)
[12:21] <beavis> whats the name of the next dev ubuntu?
[12:21] <jordan_> justin: Kubuntu 6.10?
[12:21] <jordan_> Edgy?
[12:21] <hollywoodb> Arafangion: check /var/log/* (perhaps /var/log/cups) and try determine the source
[12:21] <justin1278> jordan: yes
[12:21] <beavis> no , next one
[12:21] <jordan_> well
[12:21] <hollywoodb> beavis: Feisty Fawn
[12:21] <jordan_> it looks like you've deleted adept
[12:21] <flaccid> thanks. and yes mysql
[12:22] <Arafangion> hollywoodb: They won't have anythin significant.
[12:22] <beavis> hollywood, ty
[12:22] <dennister> great, cause i have a problem with it :)
[12:22] <justin1278> jordan, thats strange, i haven't been on linux lately, but ok, how do i get it back?
[12:22] <dennister> heheheh...what a segue, eh?
[12:22] <Arafangion> hollywoodb: As far as they're concerned, it's just a regular print job, possibly via lpr.
[12:22] <Arafangion> hollywoodb: Something's causing an old-style "printscreen"
[12:23] <jordan_> justin, im not actually sure about that i mean how do you install something without the installer
[12:23] <Arafangion> hollywoodb: Has happened probably 3 times in the past week.
[12:23] <justin1278> jordan, is there a way through the terminal?
[12:23] <Arafangion> justin1278: aptitude, failing that, apt-get, failing that, dpkg :)
[12:23] <dennister> but now that i've got my static/manual ip back again, i'm gonna try and fix it's problem with mythtv...bbs
[12:23] <hollywoodb> Arafangion: never heard of that before ;)  set cups to not accept jobs until you figure it out... if you need to print something you can clear the jobs and set it to accepting again
[12:24] <Arafangion> hollywoodb: If I do that, I'll _never_ find the problem ;)
[12:24] <Jucato> jordan_, justin1278: if you're on Edgy, the command isn't "adept" anymore. it's "adept_manager"
[12:24] <Arafangion> hollywoodb: But thanks :)  I should fix it _after_ my exams, come to think of it.
[12:24] <justin1278> ok so what do i do?
[12:25] <hollywoodb> Arafangion: the jobs will still stack up in the queue, in a few weeks you can print them all out and and reminisce about times past ;)
[12:25] <jordan_> im on Edgy
[12:25] <jordan_> and its Adept
[12:25] <Arafangion> hollywoodb: Only pattern I've found is that it only occurs when I am in a _big_ conversation, and I'm typing heaps.
[12:25] <jordan_> kdesu adept_installer
[12:25] <Jucato> jordan_: the app name is Adept (actually Adept Manager), but the command to launch it is "adept_manager"
[12:27] <hollywoodb> Arafangion: alt+print and ctrl+print are KDE shortcuts for screenshots, maybe something's going on there... disable those in kcontrol
[12:27] <h3sp4wn> Arafangion: If you go /away it logs anything that mentions your name when you turn off away you get all of it
[12:27] <justin1278> jordan: i found it
[12:28] <justin1278> jordan: i used the following command: sudo apt-get install adept
[12:28] <jordan_> cool
[12:28] <h3sp4wn> Arafangion: I have been searching for a way to get it to go to msg's window for a while (default is to status) but noone seems to answer who knows anything in #irssi
[12:29] <markelhas> hi ppl
[12:29] <markelhas> same kestion same problem
[12:29] <markelhas> :P
[12:29] <justin1278> hey is there a way to make Beryl load at startup?
[12:30] <markelhas> any one can help me out with system settings missing tools?
[12:30] <markelhas> in my system settings can't find power management
[12:30] <jordan_> why is ubuntu better than debian?
[12:31] <markelhas> but when a go to console mode i can us acpi to see info of my battery laptop info
[12:31] <h3sp4wn> jordan_: Its not they are better for different things / reasons
[12:31] <hollywoodb> h3sp4wn: script it probably, that's how weechat and bitchx do it afaik
[12:31] <markelhas> somes tips solution for this!?
[12:31] <jordan_> ok well whats the advantages and disadvantages of each?
[12:32] <hollywoodb> justin1278: http://wiki.beryl-project.org has doc on installing on Ubuntu that covers that
[12:32] <justin1278> hollywoodb: i have it installed
[12:32] <javier> buenas noches
[12:33] <hollywoodb> justin1278: and that doc also answers the question you just asked
[12:33] <justin1278> i would like to know if there is a way to make it load at startup automaticaly
[12:33] <justin1278> hollywoodb: ok thanks
[12:34] <dennister> markelhas: i forget: do u have edgy or dapper?
[12:34] <markelhas> but when a go to console mode i can us acpi to see info of my battery laptop info
[12:34] <saki> !flash
[12:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:34] <markelhas> edgy
[12:34] <markelhas> dennister: edgy
[12:34] <markelhas> dennister: kubuntu 6.10
[12:35] <saki> hrm...anyone know of a good, fast way to get flash installed on EdgyAmd64?
[12:35] <dennister> markelhas: there's a new tab in system settings: Advanced
[12:35] <dennister> it's in there: system services
[12:35] <markelhas> dennister: yes
[12:35] <markelhas> dennister: going to check
[12:37] <dennister> markelhas: can u now see the information on your power management issue?
[12:38] <markelhas> dennister: hummmmmmmmmmm
[12:38] <dennister> markelhas: u should also be able to add the applet to your panel on the bottom of your screen
[12:39] <pj> Hey, im new to Kubuntu and I want to know is there a way to install applications without having to do it manually?
[12:39] <dennister> right-click on the area where other applets are docked
[12:40] <pj> Like say I want to install mozilla, is there another way I can do that without having to do all that stuff by myself
[12:40] <webben> pj: what do you mean by "manually"?
[12:40] <webben> or "all that stuff"
[12:40] <dennister> markelhas: u following me?
[12:40] <pj> For example
[12:40] <markelhas> dennister: i've open the service
[12:40] <pj> installing firefox on windows
[12:40] <pj> all you do is open the installer and everything is done for you
[12:40] <markelhas> dennister: and find acpid
[12:40] <dennister> ok. now let's add the applet or application to yur docker
[12:40] <webben> pj: in other words not everything is done for you
[12:41] <dennister> do u see where little applets of open programs are docked, near the clock?
[12:41] <webben> pj: you have to download it, run it, configure it
[12:41] <pj> is there a way that does all that for me?
[12:41] <markelhas> dennister: yes
[12:41] <pj> because im not used to doing it all like this
[12:41] <webben> pj: typically, you'd just "sudo apt-get install mozilla-firefox"
[12:41] <pj> ohh alright
[12:41] <pj> thanks
[12:41] <pj> that installs the latest version right?
[12:41] <dennister> right-click that area, until u see add applet
[12:41] <webben> pj: depends what you mean by  "latest"
[12:42] <webben> pj: in the case of Firefox on Edgy ... it will be the "latest"
[12:42] <webben> but the packages have been customized for (K)ubuntu
[12:42] <pj> Alright thanks.
[12:42] <markelhas> dennister: oki, then...
[12:42] <hollywoodb> pj: do: 'sudo apt-get install synaptic' ... it'll put the launcher in KMenu -> System -> Synaptic Package Manager
[12:42] <hollywoodb> pj: then, if you need something, search for it, and install it.
[12:42] <dennister> markelhas: so do u see an applet for power management?
[12:42] <webben> pj: sometimes firefox and ubuntu releases are somewhat out of sync
[12:43] <webben> pj: and if you don't upgrade kubuntu in six months time the version in the main repositories will still be this version
[12:43] <smaggard> Hi guys!
[12:43] <pj> Thank you for all your help.
[12:43] <webben> because that's the version that's been fully tested
[12:43] <smaggard> whats up?
[12:43] <markelhas> dennister: nop :(
[12:44] <hollywoodb> pj: then if you search "Name" for "firefox" it'll return a bunch of stuff like firefox itself, language packs, and it'll also say version and whether or not it is installed
[12:44] <dennister> hmmm...and i had such trouble actually removing that applet
[12:44] <jerry> hey. I have been using rpm distros for a long time. I installed kubuntu on my son's desktop, and I have a new question
[12:44] <markelhas> dennister: in services, i've acpid and says not running
[12:45] <webben> pj: or from the terminal you can "apt-cache search firefox"
[12:45] <pj> webben: What will that do
[12:45] <dennister> does it say it activates at boot?
[12:45] <webben> pj: that will find packages whose name or description includes "firefox"
[12:46] <pj> So there is not installer for Linux applications?
[12:46] <pj> Configuration wise
[12:46] <webben> pj: there are such installers
[12:46] <markelhas> dennister: yes
[12:46] <jerry> i have a laptop with a intel 2915 ABG in it. will kubuntu 6.10 recognize it and will it come up when I install?
[12:46] <pj> webben: Like?
[12:46] <webben> pj: but the apt packages are what you should use if you can
[12:46] <markelhas> dennister: but the status no runnig
[12:46] <dennister> ok...it's one of those that only runs when activated then
[12:46] <hollywoodb> jerry: yep, I have the exact same card... ipw2200 modules are included in the kernel, and the firmware is included in the distribution by default
[12:46] <webben> pj: because they have usually been better tested with your distribution and you can more easily install and uninstall them
[12:47] <dennister> try to start it now and see what happens
[12:47] <webben> pj: other installations can take multiple forms
[12:47] <markelhas> dennister: Loading...
[12:47] <webben> pj: typically they are just an executable
[12:47] <jerry> great thanks hollywoodb
[12:47] <markelhas> dennister: Starting...
[12:47] <hollywoodb> jerry: if you're using WPA/WEP/static IP you may have to do a little configuration... I just use good old dhcp and MAC filtering on the router ;)
[12:47] <markelhas> dennister: the same atatus
[12:47] <jerry> just dhcp for me too
[12:47] <markelhas> dennister: *status
[12:48] <geek25> buenas noches
[12:48] <jerry> gotta go see the blue man concert now. see you!
[12:48] <Wikipedia-Gast73> why
[12:50] <dennister> markelhas: i believe they may have removed the applet as standard in edgy
[12:50] <mia> does anyone know what library i needf for this build:  ../../server/xmlattrs.h:41:30: error: libxml/xmlmemory.h: No such file or directory
[12:50] <dennister> you may want to try and install additional applets...it could be in there
[12:50] <aseigo> mia: libxml2-devel?
[12:50] <mia> aseigo: i got that one
[12:50] <Jucato> hi aseigo! :)
[12:51] <aseigo> mia:  /usr/include/libxml2/libxml/xmlmemory.h
[12:51] <dennister> it seems that the developers may have tried to clean up all the standard stuff a bit
[12:51] <markelhas> dennister: nopes cause if i run the livecd the tools exists
[12:51] <markelhas> dennister: something that i've made that destroyed it :(
[12:51] <Jucato> markelhas: what are you looking for?
[12:51] <aseigo> mia: and dpkg -S says... *drum roll* libxml2-dev
[12:52] <pj> pjL
[12:52] <pj> pj:
[12:52] <dennister> did you perhaps disable the laptop services? i did, cause i don't have a laptop
[12:52] <aseigo> mia: so i'd suggest that the source package has the wrong (or no) path to libxml2
[12:52] <Jucato> ah laptop stuff... :(
[12:52] <markelhas> Jucato: my power management tools gone in system setting and try icon
[12:52] <aseigo> mia: or that you only -think- libxml2-devel is installed! </conspiracy-theory>
[12:52] <dennister> Jucato: he can't make the icons appear
[12:52] <markelhas> dennister: i don't know
[12:52] <mia> aseigo: odd because isnt ./configure supposed to take care of that
[12:52] <Jucato> ah.... that.... :(
[12:52] <Jucato> aseigo: bye! :)
[12:53] <aseigo> mia: in a world full of love and daisies, yes
[12:53] <markelhas> Jucato: what!?
[12:53] <dennister> jucato: could u help him pls? he's been extremely patient for what i think is actually a simple issue
[12:53] <Jucato> markelhas: "ah... that... :(" means I've been stumped with the same question for days... :(
[12:53] <markelhas> Jucato: sorry
[12:54] <Jucato> markelhas: sorry, too... :(
[12:54] <markelhas> Jucato: didn't understand
[12:54] <dennister> i guess that answers my question, too :)
[12:54] <dennister> markelhas: jucato's got the same problem as u, and has beentrying to solve it
[12:55] <markelhas> dennister: welcome!!!!!!!!!11
[12:55] <markelhas> dennister: :P
[12:55] <Jucato> dennister: actually not me. (I have no need of it...) but others have been asking too... and I couldn't figure it out either
[12:55] <dennister> ahhhhh...ok
[12:55] <hollywoodb> markelhas: did you try installing something 'alternative' to default power management, like 'kpowersave'? if so, undo that
[12:55] <markelhas> dennister: i really don't understand...
[12:56] <dennister> markelhas: the reason ppl aren't helping u with this problem is they can't; they're experiencing it too
[12:56] <eaglehawk> anybody who can help me with sound on laptop
[12:56] <markelhas> hollywoodb: yes i have
[12:56] <hollywoodb> markelhas: by default I have installed on my laptop: apmd acpid powernowd and NOT powersaved... powermanagement works perfectly
[12:57] <hollywoodb> markelhas: powersaved is a different beast
[12:57] <markelhas> hollywoodb: and after removing it what should i install?
[12:57] <dennister> hollywoodb: the hero! ?
[12:57] <smaggard> hey again
[12:57] <eaglehawk> anybody who can help me with sound on laptop
[12:57] <dennister> wb smaggard
[12:58] <smaggard> hey are you the one who game me the beryl link?
[12:58] <markelhas> hollywoodb: what sould i do, remove what and add what?
[12:58] <hollywoodb> markelhas: try with: acpi acpid powernowd powermanagement-interface powermgmt-base kde-guidance-powermanager
[12:59] <smaggard> cuz i followed the guide but when i set kdm to use the xgl session and try logging it, it just hangs up and eventually takes me back to kdm again
[12:59] <hollywoodb> markelhas: I have those installed, nothing else like powersaved (get rid of that and kpowersave(d)), and its working as it should
[12:59] <RawSewage> how do I play .smil streaming audio
[12:59] <markelhas> hollywoodb: going to try
[01:00] <dennister> ok...it looks like ur in capable hands at last, so i'll go back to my myth/sql issue
[01:00] <dennister> with trepidation...
[01:01] <hollywoodb> markelhas: apmd, acpid, powernowd, and kde-guidance are set to start at boot
[01:01] <hollywoodb> markelhas: in system settings -> advanced -> services
[01:01] <RawSewage> I want to listen to NPR radio.  anyone know how I can play .smil
[01:02] <markelhas> hollywoodb: oki, going to follow up
[01:07] <dennister> eureka?
[01:08] <dennister> ok...i may have finally found the issue!!!
[01:08] <markelhas> hollywoodb: in services acpid, powernowd, and kde-guidance are set to start at boot
[01:08] <markelhas> hollywoodb: donpt have apmd
[01:08] <dennister> or one of them at any rate...
[01:09] <markelhas> hollywoodb: removed power tools
[01:10] <markelhas> hollywoodb: should i do anything else to active power management!?
[01:10] <dennister> Q: we're supposed to initialize the mythtv-backend server with /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend, but the only command that seems to be doing the job is actually in /urs/bin/mythbackend...how to resolve the discrepancy?
[01:11] <pierre_> salut
[01:11] <dennister> grep? a symbolic link? renaming the commands?
[01:11] <pierre_> je viens d'installer kubuntu
[01:11] <pierre_> adept est en anglais, c'est normal?
[01:11] <dennister> anglais, pls
[01:11] <pierre_> dennister: je compredns pas
[01:12] <hollywoodb> markelhas: you need apmd, you may have to install it
[01:12] <markelhas> hollywoodb: oki them
[01:12] <dennister> does anyone speak frnech for pierre? send him to a french-language channel?
[01:12] <hollywoodb> !fr
[01:12] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[01:12] <dennister> ty hollywoodb
[01:13] <pierre_> sorry, tchuss
[01:13] <dennister> hey hollywoodb: you wouldn't know the answer to my Q above, would u?
[01:14] <hollywoodb> dennister: does /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend exist?
[01:14] <markelhas> hollywoodb: something else?
[01:15] <hollywoodb> markelhas: if you've got all those packages I listed above, and the right ones set to start at boot you should be good to go
[01:15] <dennister> no,
[01:16] <markelhas> hollywoodb: should i restart my kubuntu?
[01:16] <rbrunhuber> Any kmymoney (with hbci) users here?
[01:17] <hollywoodb> markelhas: if you've not comfortable with stopping and starting the right services properly, then reboot is cleanest
[01:17] <dennister> hollywoodb: let me explain properly: the initializing/stopping/restarting command is supposed to be /etc/init.d/mythbackend start, stop...according to the mythtv documentation
[01:17] <markelhas> hollywoodb: just for review, when i go to adept manager and write power
[01:17] <lost-away> hello all I am currently installing kubuntu 6.10 on my laptop and it seems to be hanging on "Running 22gnome_panel_data"  and not progressing any further is this a known bug by chance ?
[01:17] <dennister> however, the edgy documentation says to use /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend.
[01:17] <markelhas> hollywoodb: i find installed the following packs
[01:18] <hollywoodb> dennister: I'd first check that the right packages are all installed, since /etc/init.d/mythtv-* doesn't exist... if you've got the right stuff and that file just isn't there, you can just add any command(s) you want run at boot to rc.local
[01:18] <dennister> there is no /usr/bin/mythtv-backend command
[01:19] <dennister> ok...now ur making me nervous...never done that b4
[01:19] <hollywoodb> dennister: you have 'mythtv-backend' installed as well?
[01:19] <dennister> that's the right package for edgy
[01:20] <hollywoodb> dennister: I've never actually messed with mythtv myself
[01:21] <dennister> however, when i try to start the backend according to the edgy documentation, system services says 'no /usr/bin/mythbackend running'
[01:21] <dennister> notice the last file that's being referenced: "mythbackend"
[01:21] <dennister> that file does actually exist, and i ran it, so the whole thing worked
[01:22] <hollywoodb> dennister: 'no /usr/bin/mythbackend running' doesn't mean it doesn't exist, it just isn't running ;)
[01:22] <markelhas> hollywoodb: acpid apmd kde-guidance-powermanager laptop-mode laptop-mode-tools libgnomecanvas2-0 libgnomecanvas2-common libimlib2vlibpowersave10 powermanagement-interface powermgmnt-base powernowd tcpdump
[01:22] <dennister> i just want some way for the command /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend to actually start /usr/bin/mythbackend
[01:22] <markelhas> hollywoodb: maybe to much garged!?
[01:22] <markelhas> hollywoodb: maybe to much trash!?
[01:23] <hollywoodb> markelhas: that should be ok... the laptop-mode stuff is fine, it doesn't actually do anything unless you enable it... the libgnome stuff doesn't hurt anything, and neither does imlib, they're mostly unrelated
[01:23] <hollywoodb> markelhas: if apmd, acpid, powernowd, and kde-guidance are set to start at boot you should be ok
[01:24] <markelhas> hollywoodb: going to check again
[01:24] <ubuntu> hi all :)
[01:24] <OldToker> whoa
[01:25] <hollywoodb> dennister: howsabout /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend restart
[01:25] <jmichaelx> lupine_85: do you have an edgy repository with precompiled ralink drivers?
[01:26] <dennister> hollywoodb: that doesn't work...it says there's nothing running, so nothing can be killed
[01:26] <hollywoodb> dennister: and it doesn't start it either?
[01:26] <dennister> that's right
[01:26] <dennister> it's /usr/bin/mythbackend that needs to be activated by /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend start
[01:26] <shnee> im trying to use the second snapshot of kde4 but with no luck...ive added the "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde4-3.80.2/ ./ " repository but apt wont allow me to install kde4base-dev
[01:27] <jmichaelx> has anyone here been able to get Yahoo! news videos to work in edgy using FF2.0 & mplayer?
[01:27] <jmichaelx> !lupine
[01:27] <dennister> my
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lupine - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:28] <hollywoodb> dennister: well that's strange, I guess I'm not sure... check /var/run/ for any *.pid files related to mythtvbackend
[01:28] <dennister> mythbackend does exist in /usr/bin, and does start it if i click on it in konq
[01:28] <markelhas> hollywoodb: when i try to restart the services in system setting the services always show status not running. is it normal?
[01:29] <markelhas> hollywoodb: and nothing about battery management :(
[01:29] <hollywoodb> markelhas: that's OK... do you have a battery monitor applet in the panel?
[01:30] <markelhas> hollywoodb: no :'(
[01:30] <hollywoodb> markelhas: that's fine :) open a term, and do 'sudo /etc/init.d/kde-guidance restart'
[01:31] <hollywoodb> markelhas: if there's still no applet, run (alt+F2) guidance-power-manager
[01:31] <Lunar_Raven> !konqueror
[01:31] <ubotu> konqueror: KDE's advanced file manager, web browser and document viewer. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1953 kB, installed size 5280 kB
[01:31] <Lunar_Raven> !java
[01:31] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:32] <markelhas> hollywoodb: do u belive that none result :(!
[01:33] <hollywoodb> markelhas: OK, but no errors?
[01:33] <markelhas> no errors
[01:33] <hollywoodb> markelhas: what is your processor speed?
[01:33] <beavis> can someone tell me where is the idea pool for  Feisty Fawn?
[01:33] <markelhas> hollywoodb: 1.600
[01:34] <markelhas> hollywoodb: Asus M3N a centrino
[01:34] <hollywoodb> markelhas: do in a term (don't need to use sudo or anything) : grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo
[01:34] <markelhas> hollywoodb: 1.024 mb ram
[01:34] <markelhas> grep MHz /proc/cpuinfo
[01:34] <markelhas> sorry
[01:34] <markelhas> hollywoodb:
[01:34] <markelhas> model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1600MHz
[01:34] <markelhas> cpu MHz         : 600.000
[01:35] <hollywoodb> markelhas: OK, good, its working then ;) your processor is throttled down... do: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[01:36] <markelhas> hollywoodb: ondemand
[01:36] <hollywoodb> markelhas: perfect ;) it'll throttle up when it needs to then... so all you're missing now is the applet itself... hold on
[01:37] <markelhas> hollywoodb: but when i installed kubuntu for the firts time only some times it changes from 600 to 1600
[01:37] <markelhas> hollywoodb: okidoki
[01:37] <hollywoodb> markelhas: that's proper... 'ondemand' mode means when it needs to (when you do something cpu intensive) it'll jump up until its finished doing what it needed to do and go back down to keep cool & save power... the change is instantaeous, so there's no real-world performance hit
[01:39] <markelhas> hollywoodb: oki
[01:40] <markelhas> hollywoodb: better like that, more silence and best battery performance
[01:40] <hollywoodb> markelhas: exactly
[01:40] <mia> how come wine isnt in the default repos?
[01:40] <hollywoodb> markelhas: OK, do: sudo modprobe battery ac
[01:41] <markelhas> hollywoodb: so missing applet and toll in system setting only!?
[01:41] <hollywoodb> markelhas: it may still need a reboot to make sure all the proper modules & services are running to get the battery applet to kick in, I'm checking on that right now
[01:41] <hollywoodb> markelhas: change that last thing to : sudo modprobe ac && sudo modprobe battery
[01:42] <markelhas> hollywoodb: done last command
[01:42] <BluesKaj> wine has it's own repos
[01:43] <markelhas> hollywoodb: going to reboot to see if problem resolved
[01:43] <hollywoodb> markelhas: sounds good
[01:43] <smaggard> hello again :D
[01:43] <markelhas> hollywoodb: better can't reboot cause sometimes it hungs, but that's another story
[01:43] <markelhas> :)
[01:44] <markelhas> hollywoodb: going to shutdown
[01:44] <markelhas> ce u ppl
[01:44] <dennister> hey snaggard
[01:45] <smaggard> :D
[01:45] <dennister> ok hollywoodb: i'm ready to try and add that boot script or whatever in re.local
[01:46] <dennister> i can't seem to nemae the file :(
[01:46] <hollywoodb> dennister: alright, just open /etc/rc.local (not /etc/init.d/rc.local, that's a bit different)
[01:46] <dennister> thks for telling me the discrepancy :)
[01:47] <hollywoodb> dennister: put any commands you want run, one per line, before the "exit 0" line and you're good... just 'sudo /etc/rc.local' to test
[01:47] <markelhas> hollywoodb: guess what!!!!
[01:47] <hollywoodb> markelhas: it works :)
[01:47] <dennister> k...will do the test, too
[01:47] <markelhas> dennister: guess what
[01:47] <markelhas> YAPPPPPPPPPPPP
[01:47] <dennister> hurray!!!for hollywoodb and markelhas!
[01:48] <dennister> hollywoodb: do you know lots of other pps are strugling with the same prob as markelhas?
[01:48] <hollywoodb> markelhas: that applet is dependent on certain modules and services running I believe, so I kinda figured/hoped a reboot would get that in line... much easier than tracking it down manually
[01:48] <hollywoodb> dennister: gimme a minute
[01:48] <dennister> np
[01:48] <markelhas> hollywoodb: but check it on system and it isn't there :P
[01:48] <dennister> i'm gonna do what u suggested for me
[01:49] <markelhas> but in systray it's okay
[01:49] <hollywoodb> markelhas: no, I know... there isn't a launcher for it in kubuntu 6.10 / kde 3.5.5 .. I'm not sure why
[01:49] <der_steppenwolf> hi
[01:49] <der_steppenwolf> i'm using firefox 2 and mplayer-plugin. The plugin is loaded but it cannot stream videos. What could be the problem?
[01:50] <markelhas> hollywoodb: but when i've installed it was there
[01:50] <der_steppenwolf> kubuntu 6.10
[01:50] <BluesKaj> head out on the hiway ...born to be wild!
[01:50] <hollywoodb> markelhas: hmm... one minute
[01:50] <markelhas> hollywoodb: and if i run livecd it's there
[01:50] <markelhas> hollywoodb: okis
[01:50] <smaggard> steppenwolf> install w32codecs
[01:50] <smaggard> sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[01:51] <smaggard> also in firefox type about:plugins and make sure the mplayer plugin is listed.
[01:51] <_sergio> is listed, even i can see the program loaded in firefox
[01:51] <_sergio> smaggard: but it tries to plays the videos and it doesn't manage to do it...
[01:52] <smaggard> its probably missing codecs
[01:52] <smaggard> install the w32codecs like i said before
[01:52] <jmichaelx> _sergio: what videos ar eyou trying to play?
[01:53] <_sergio> for example streaming from dw-world.de
[01:53] <_sergio> or http://www.tageschau.de/
[01:53] <lovethepirk> i just downloaded and burnt the cd iso for 6.10 should I format and install it or just install over breezy
[01:53] <_sergio> smaggard: i have installed the w32codecs...
[01:53] <cwcsc> somebody help !!!  where is amarok mp3 plugin ??  i can't see mp3 plugin
[01:53] <jmichaelx> _sergio: i hate to tell you, but i don't think such videos are working in firefox2.0/edgy
[01:54] <_sergio> why?
[01:54] <jmichaelx> _sergio: i don't know. i upgraded 2 machines to edgy, but i still have dapper on my laptop so i can watch yahoo and tagesschau videos on it
[01:54] <_sergio> at the beginning i can hear some sound and see 2 seconds of the image but it gets stucked
[01:54] <jmichaelx> _sergio: same here
[01:55] <_sergio> ok
[01:56] <jmichaelx> _sergio: i am hoping this will get fixed some time soon.... i have looked in the forums , but cannot find anything that will get these videos to play
[01:56] <jmichaelx> they play fine in dapper
[01:56] <_sergio> is there a bug reported?
[01:56] <jmichaelx> _sergio: i don't know. might be a good idea
[01:57] <_sergio> ok, i will report it for kubuntu at first...
[01:57] <jmichaelx> good
[01:57] <jmichaelx> for me, it is the .wmv videos that will not play. realplayer videos and flash videos are fine
[01:58] <dennister> hollywoodb: i tested the edited rc.local file, it seems to work fine
[01:58] <_sergio> yes, for me is the same problem
[01:58] <_sergio> i can play other videos
[02:00] <elden> hey guys, does ur broadcom 4306 lan card working?
[02:00] <elden> in kubuntu dapper??
[02:00] <dennister> bback soon...gonna reboot to test it...cant have this one process hogging my shell constantly
[02:00] <apokryphos> elden: #ubuntu is good to ask for non-kde-related issues
[02:01] <hollywoodb> markelhas: found the solution: sudo apt-get install klaptopdaemon
[02:01] <elden> aahh
[02:01] <elden> ok
[02:02] <markelhas> hollywoodb: but that i think was one of that i remove before reboot
[02:02] <hollywoodb> markelhas: that's OK, it should install cleanly now without dragging anything along with it
[02:02] <markelhas> hollywoodb: okis okis
[02:03] <markelhas> hollywoodb: need rebbot also!?
[02:03] <markelhas> *reboot
[02:03] <hollywoodb> markelhas: no, not yet, hang on... still need to get it back in the menu :) working on it
[02:04] <markelhas> hollywoodb: :P, sorry dude, installed
[02:04] <hollywoodb> markelhas: that's OK, check if its in the settings now, I'm thinking not
[02:05] <markelhas> hollywoodb: your right, again....
[02:05] <wildchild> open office doesn't open .doc file: Read-Error
[02:05] <wildchild> :S
[02:05] <RogueThunder> Excuse me but can anyone give me some help with my wireless card... ive tried verious ways with some prevous help but probobly meseed something up along the way... im from freash install now and... hoping someone knowlagible is about...
[02:05] <hollywoodb> markelhas: that's the part I'm working on :) you should be able to get to it now with: kcmshell laptop
[02:06] <hollywoodb> markelhas: but it isn't in the menu (yet)
[02:06] <RogueThunder> Linksys wusb54g v1(not v4, very much not...)
[02:06] <PA1>  When I try $ sudo apt-get dist-update it says:  E: Invalid operation dist-update
[02:06] <markelhas> hollywoodb: the power management tool in system setting no there
[02:07] <jmichaelx> PA1: have you updated your sources.list?
[02:07] <administrator_> I can use win32-applications in Kubuntu....Why?
[02:07] <markelhas> hollywoodb: should be under computer administration i think
[02:07] <LjL> PA1: that's because it's dist-upgrade not dist-update
[02:07] <administrator_> can
[02:07] <hollywoodb> markelhas: I know, but if you run 'kcmshell laptop' it should run... I'm working on getting it in menu right now
[02:07] <PA1> thanks!
[02:07] <administrator_> Cant
[02:08] <markelhas> hollywoodb: oki, sorry going to run  the command
[02:08] <felipe__> Something happened and kubuntu didn't mount my fat 32 patitions, where can I find a log to see what happened?
[02:08] <PA1> When I try to change my screen resolution from 1280x1024 to 1024x768 or 800x600, Ubuntu 6.10 takes me back to the logon screen and when I log back in my screen resolution is still 1280x1024.
[02:08] <administrator_> Ok, again...I cant use win32-applications in Kubuntu......why?
[02:08] <markelhas> hollywoodb: open a new window, but some errors in shell window
[02:09] <PA1> administrator:  have you tried WINE?
[02:09] <hollywoodb> markelhas: what errors?
[02:09] <markelhas> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[02:09] <markelhas>   Major opcode:  145
[02:09] <hollywoodb> markelhas: that's OK
[02:09] <markelhas>   Minor opcode:  3
[02:09] <markelhas>   Resource id:  0x0
[02:09] <markelhas> Failed to open device
[02:09] <hollywoodb> markelhas: that's something unrelated
[02:09] <markelhas> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[02:09] <hollywoodb> markelhas: brb
[02:09] <markelhas>   Major opcode:  145
[02:09] <markelhas>   Minor opcode:  3
[02:09] <markelhas>   Resource id:  0x0
[02:09] <markelhas> Failed to open device
[02:09] <markelhas> QLayout "unnamed" added to QVGroupBox "unnamed", which already has a layout
[02:09] <markelhas> QLayout "unnamed" added to QVGroupBox "unnamed", which already has a layout
[02:09] <markelhas> sorry about the spam dudes
[02:09] <markelhas> hollywoodb: oki
[02:09] <administrator_> PA1: Where can I get that?
[02:09] <NeonLightning> to mount my hd as rw it should be mount -o rw /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1  correct?
[02:10] <markelhas> hollywoodb: should i do some config in open windows?
[02:10] <OldToker> administrator_: Wouldn't the very name of win32 denote that they won't natively run on Linux???  Not trying to be smart.. just trying to cause you to think a bit :)
[02:10] <NeonLightning> yea you need to run atleast wine(anyone used zen i hear its pretty good)
[02:11] <Jucato> !pastebin | markelhas
[02:11] <OldToker> administrator_: without an eumulation package.. you won't get anything  "win" 32 or otherwise to run :)
[02:11] <Jucato> ubotu: ping
[02:11] <markelhas> Jucato: sorry didn't understand
[02:11] <Jucato> markelhas: the bot is lagging. nvm :)
[02:12] <administrator_> OldToker: I know whatcha mean, but I had recently used Linux, and know that win32-apps can be used
[02:12] <markelhas> Jucato: sorry about the epast
[02:12] <markelhas> *paste
[02:12] <NeonLightning> yea with an emulator present
[02:12] <Jucato> markelhas: it's ok. don't do it next time :)
[02:12] <RogueThunder> Anyone willing/wana help me try to get my linksys wusb54g v1 working... *sighs*
[02:12] <NeonLightning> but most distro's don't come with wine installed
[02:12] <markelhas> Jucato: oki them
[02:12] <Jucato> markelhas: I was supposed to give you the link to pastebin, but the bot is kinda sleeping
[02:12] <administrator_> Where can I find a emulator?
[02:13] <OldToker> administrator_: probably because someone had an emulator put into it.. like Crossover..  Crossover is real nice.. lets you use Win Aps without having to do anything more than just double click on them.. like normal :)
[02:13] <NeonLightning> yea but doesn't handle some istallers well
[02:13] <OldToker> NeonLightning: was just an example...
[02:13] <Lunar_Raven> !pastebin
[02:13] <markelhas> Jucato: just try to resolve my problem pasting my problem info
[02:13] <Lunar_Raven> o.o
[02:13] <NeonLightning> any installer that runs a setup program seperate seems to screw it up
[02:13] <markelhas> Jucato: pastebin is a toll?
[02:14] <administrator_> I admit that ive gone through worse....but i need a emulator! :)
[02:14] <NeonLightning> apt-get wine
[02:14] <OldToker> try wine first
[02:14] <Jucato> markelhas: I know. pastebin is a web page where you can paste long lines of text and get a URL which you can share for everyone to see what you pasted
[02:14] <OldToker> administrator_: its free..
[02:14] <administrator_> Ya, but where?
[02:14] <markelhas> Jucato: oki them, next time i'll use it.
[02:14] <OldToker> administrator_: try that before you resort to a commercial app... Wish I'd had someoene tell me that long ago. :)
[02:15] <OldToker> administrator_: apt-get install wine
[02:15] <ubuntu_newbie> Can someone help with no sound problem? or there is some link to follow in the net like a FAQ? Basically i had no sound starting kde session and something like a toc...toc... repeating when starting session with gnome.
[02:15] <markelhas> sorry about the paste duddes
[02:15] <NeonLightning> open a console and type what OldToker said
[02:15] <astronaute> hello
[02:15] <astronaute> where to change color depth in kubuntu edgy please ? in display settings i see only resolution and refresh ??
[02:16] <RogueThunder> Anyone willing/wana help me try to get my linksys wusb54g v1 working... *sighs*
[02:16] <administrator_> OldToker: Imagine this: I a insane admin who has used windows very much, and need all help there is! :)
[02:16] <eaglehawk> anybody who can help me with sound on laptop
[02:17] <OldToker> administrator_: No problem friend.. most of us were there at one time or another :)
[02:17] <astronaute> how to change color depth please in kubuntu edgy ??
[02:18] <astronaute> i think im in 16 bit, images are very ugly
[02:18] <RogueThunder> *sighs*
[02:18] <astronaute> noone ?
[02:18] <RogueThunder> Its kinda a techical assitance deadzone in ere today
[02:18] <administrator_> I tell ya, im goin nuts in this feaking Nix-environment
[02:18] <PA1> Anyone know how to get Preferences-Screen resolution to work?
[02:19] <hollywoodb> markelhas: I don't know how to get it to show up in the settings dialog, but you can run it with 'kcmshell laptop' ... if you end up with two power monitors in the tray after that, just uncheck "show battery monitor" in 'kcmshell-laptop'
[02:19] <NeonLightning> administrator_: my first time touching linux was trying to get a irc server setup so i know that one and it was on mandrake 7.0(well my first time aside from looking at the screen and saying oh how neat)
[02:19] <OldToker> admini
[02:19] <OldToker> whoops
[02:19] <OldToker> administrator_: May I pm you?
[02:19] <administrator_> I cant take this....OldToke: if ya have nothing against it, would ya join my channel to talk?
[02:19] <hollywoodb> markelhas: I'm not sure how kde/kubuntu decides what does and doesn't show up in the configuration boxes.. you could check in #kde for info on how that works
[02:20] <OldToker> sure
[02:20] <PA1> Anyone know how to get Preferences-Screen resolution to work?
[02:20] <OldToker> I am not an expert.. still learnin' myself tho administrator_ :)
[02:20] <hollywoodb> markelhas: I found the .desktop file for it (on my system) in /usr/share/applnk/.hidden/power.desktop ... but I can't figure out how to get that into the System Settings box
[02:21] <administrator_> please join #Kebabeater
[02:21] <administrator_> OldToker
[02:21] <markelhas> hollywoodb: ok, thank you verry much, for the help
[02:22] <dennister> so all's well in the power dept? or almost-perfect at least?
[02:22] <markelhas> hollywoodb: i thinks the principal is done
[02:23] <markelhas> hollywoodb: maybe just a little more and the system will be fixed
[02:23] <max_> hi, i think im having problems with my ALSA, i plug my guitar into my  computer and i can hear it through the speakers, but a tuner or any recording software wont pick it up. any ideas what it could be?
[02:23] <hollywoodb> markelhas: yeah, the functionality is there... Kubuntu's settings dialog is called "System Settings" and is different from the 'official' KDE config, which is "kcontrol" ... I can get it to show up in "kcontrol" but not "System Settings" ... have to ask the Kubuntu devs how that works
[02:24] <dennister> like i said earlier; apparently a few ppl have been struggling with this same issue for days
[02:24] <markelhas> hollywoodb: i've google a lot and got some info, but the problem is out to select the good info and useful, but i'm improving.
[02:24] <PA1> Does anyone know how to change screen resolution from 1280x1024 to something more readable?
[02:24] <SlimG> someone got a clue what happens when booting a i386 cd (ubuntu install cd) on a EM64T system?
[02:25] <soulrider> hi everyone
[02:25] <eaglehawk> anybody who can help me with sound on laptop
[02:25] <saki> !xorg
[02:25] <dennister> PA1:  got to system settings--display
[02:25] <saki> what xorg is kubuntu running?
[02:25] <max_> hi, i think im having problems with my ALSA, i plug my guitar into my  computer and i can hear it through the speakers, but a tuner or any recording software wont pick it up. any ideas what it could be?
[02:25] <hollywoodb> saki: X -version says: X Window System Version 7.1.1
[02:25] <dennister> hi inteliwasp
[02:26] <markelhas> hollywoodb: the sad part is that a don't remeber when i've destroyed it
[02:26] <inteliwasp> hi dennister
[02:26] <saki> thx hollywoodb
[02:26] <PA1> I don't have that -- I have System - Screen Resolution
[02:26] <hollywoodb> markelhas: I'm running a default install, and it seems to have disappeared on its own... perhaps the kubuntu devs decided to remove it and let the system manage itself, I'm not sure
[02:26] <eaglehawk> <saki: it is x.org xserver
[02:27] <hollywoodb> dennister: I'll write a little doc that says what packages need to be there and what don't, but I still can't get the dialog to display in System Settings... needs to be run manually with 'kcmshell laptop'
[02:27] <markelhas> hollywoodb: there was missing more then power management, but i've runed a sudo apt-get command and the others where restored.
[02:27] <saki> anyone know how to get xgl or aiglx to install in kubuntu edgy
[02:27] <AtticStorm> Has anyone been able to sync up there Motorola L6 cell phone to KDE, maybe with kmobiletools?
[02:27] <dennister> hollywoodb: i think a doc would be much appreciated by lots of pps :)
[02:28] <markelhas> hollywoodb: going to use livecd in my wife laptop to check if it's there
[02:28] <dennister> perhaps someone else can finish the part u'r struggling with now
[02:28] <markelhas> hollywoodb: one mmt
[02:30] <AtticStorm> PA1: Start > System Settings > Display > move slide bar to left.
[02:30] <dennister> hollywoodb: i rebooted, and just checked my running processes; mythbackend doesn't seem to be running but i can't tell for sure
[02:30] <hollywoodb> dennister: try: ps ax | grep myth
[02:31] <dennister> yes, it seems to be running :)  4892 ?        Sl     0:01 /usr/bin/mythbackend
[02:31] <hollywoodb> dennister: there ya go :)
[02:32] <dennister> this too, isn't a perfect solution, but perhaps i can now move on to the other parts of the edgy howto...mainly finishing up
[02:32] <dennister> until i get things like mplayer and lame into the system i don't think i'll be able to actually watch anything
[02:32] <dennister> and therefore really test it out
[02:32] <NeonLightning> mplayer is all you really need that and xmms with the mp3 plugin
[02:33] <hollywoodb> dennister: yeah, core issue is figuring out why /etc/init.d/mythtv-backend doesn't work... perhaps file a bug or tru developer's channel for input
[02:33] <dennister> i'm also still getting a network socket error, but i'm tired of knocking my head against the wall on it..yes, the developers need to change some things, or change the howto
[02:33] <hollywoodb> dennister: sometimes little things like that are found... for example 'knetwalk' game doesn't show up in menu because it doesn't have a .desktop entry... a simple bug I filed that is easy to fix, and something the package maintainer probably just missed
[02:34] <eaglehawk> anybody who can help me with sound on laptop
[02:34] <dennister> yes, and sometimes we find solutions by accident :)
[02:34] <h3sp4wn> hollywoodb: I think that is a feature if every application created an icon the menu's would be even more cluttered than they are now
[02:35] <dennister> i've already got quite a bit of multimedia stuff going on in here, i need the music to calm my frustrations along the way :)
[02:36] <hollywoodb> h3sp4wn: right, certain things are left out of the menu on purpose to avoid clutter... but I don't think *games* should be left out, since they can't honestly expect everyone who installs a game know how to run via alt+F2 or a terminal
[02:36] <markelhas> hollywoodb: this systray incon was there but no power management tool
[02:36] <hollywoodb> h3sp4wn: and most things that are left out actually do include the .desktop file, but it contains either "Hidden=true" or "NoDisplay=true"
[02:36] <dennister> the plugins package is 47 packages, plus a lot of other suggestions i'll also install cause i've found them extremely useful in past installations
[02:37] <markelhas> hollywoodb: maybe it's a problem from kde
[02:37] <hollywoodb> markelhas: could be
[02:37] <dennister> would kde 4.0 be better at some of these probs? like we're experiencing in edgy? has anyone tried v 4.0?
[02:37] <NeonLightning> this is my results trying to mount my hd any suggestions ?http://pastebin.com/819412
[02:38] <markelhas> dennister: & hollywoodb thnks for the help dudes, got to sleep it's to late in my contry
[02:38] <dennister> g'nite markelhas :)
[02:38] <dyssan3> Must go today now 1 dell xps m1710 laptop with shipping and carry case $700, 1 apple ipod new, 250 with shpping, 1 BFG Nvidia geforce 7950 PCIE video card price 300$ with shipping, 1 dell 23" monitor/tv combination: 350$. message aim at polter 1981 or msn at just it 1981 at hot mail dot com or yahoo at mbogden1981
[02:38] <markelhas> dennister: & hollywoodb i've some more questions to make, but no more power management
[02:38] <markelhas> :)
[02:39] <dennister> lol
[02:39] <markelhas> samba & printer sharing
[02:39] <dennister> i didn't do much
[02:39] <markelhas> bye
[02:39] <dennister> i gotta get those 2 going myself
[02:39] <dennister> --after myth is finished and working :)
[02:40] <markelhas> dennister: u did help me, in a different way
[02:40] <markelhas> dennister: u now ...
[02:40] <AtticStorm> Anyone using a Motorola L6 phone in kde?
[02:40] <dennister> wll i'm glad i was able to do *something* useful for someone else...i've been so grateful for all i've gotten from others
[02:40] <markelhas> hollywoodb: thnks again.
[02:44] <SlimG> does all 64bit Intel processors support 32bit apps?
[02:44] <dennister> SlimG: yes, but the drivers don't
[02:45] <hollywoodb> markelhas: no problem
[02:45] <SlimG> dennister: Thanx
[02:45] <eaglehawk> anybody who can help me with sound on laptop
[02:45] <dennister> that's the problem: some hardware manufacturers haven't released the 64-bit drivers...waiting for vista
[02:46] <dennister> eaglehawk: what specifically is the problem/question?
[02:46] <dennister> perhaps its not laptop-specific?
[02:48] <vipercat> i have installed firefox using the konsole but i dont know how to add a shortcut to the menu ... any help ?
[02:49] <dennister> eaglehawk: i'm not registered yet, so can't respond in pm
[02:50] <arthurb> Hi, anyone know where there are packages for the amarok moodbar for edgy ?
[02:50] <eaglehawk> well sound is ok thru headphone on my laptop but no sound thru speaker
[02:51] <dennister> well hollywoodb is the laptop man...perhaps he can help u now that he's markelhas' hero :)
[02:51] <NeonLightning> so still no help with my mount issues?
[02:52] <arthurb> NeonLightning: well there's viagra
[02:52] <dennister> i mainly know destop sound stuff
[02:52] <eaglehawk> ok then to hollywoodb
[02:52] <markelhas> LOL, bye ce u
[02:52] <NeonLightning> hahah thats not bad dude i gotta remember that one
[02:52] <arthurb> ;)
[02:53] <dennister> roflmfao
[02:53] <arthurb> works for fsck too
[02:53] <cpk1> NeonLightning: make a directory in /media and mount it in there
[02:53] <dennister> i gotta get back to my mythtv setup...cya pps
[02:53] <Alvaro> holas
[02:53] <Alvaro> alguien me ayude
[02:54] <NeonLightning> what will that do?
[02:54] <Alvaro> con una impresora HP Deskjet 3920
[02:54] <cpk1> oh i see you want all users to have access
[02:54] <vipercat> can anyone help me add a shortcut to the menu ?
[02:55] <OldToker> question...
[02:55] <NeonLightning> i just want my main user to have write access because k3b doesn't wanna run in sudo mode it keeps telling me there are no registered mime types then crashes when i do that
[02:55] <NeonLightning> zup toker?
[02:55] <OldToker> why would  apt-get install wine  not work?
[02:55] <Alvaro> hola
[02:55] <NeonLightning> idk should tho
[02:55] <Alvaro> in spanish
[02:55] <Alvaro> channel
[02:55] <Jucato> !es
[02:55] <Jucato> Alvaro: #ubuntu-es or #kubuntu-es
[02:56] <Alvaro> well
[02:56] <Alvaro> thank
[02:56] <Alvaro> bye
[02:56] <cpk1> try -o defaults maybe?
[02:56] <OldToker> # apt-get install wine
[02:56] <OldToker> Reading package lists... Done
[02:56] <OldToker> Building dependency tree
[02:56] <OldToker> Reading state information... Done
[02:56] <OldToker> Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[02:56] <OldToker> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[02:56] <OldToker> is only available from another source
[02:56] <OldToker> E: Package wine has no installation candidate
[02:56] <vipercat> ? join #kde
[02:56] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:57] <Jucato> ubotu: ping
[02:57] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[02:57] <NeonLightning> try looking for some more sources
[02:57] <cpk1> OldToker: you using edgy or dapper?
[02:57] <OldToker> edgy
[02:57] <Jucato> OldToker: wine is in universe. you could try enabling that. (although it's supposed to be enabled by default in Edgy)
[02:58] <OldToker> Universe??? sorry New to Kubuntu..
[02:58] <Jucato> vipercat: right-click on the K Menu and choose "Edit Menu"
[02:58] <NeonLightning> one of the repos
[02:59] <Jucato> !universe | OldToker
[02:59] <ubotu> OldToker: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:59] <NeonLightning> cpk1 no luck
[02:59] <cpk1> NeonLightning: also everything in /mnt/ is owned by root...
[02:59] <NeonLightning> oh ok
[02:59] <NeonLightning> that i should have taken into concideration
[03:00] <eaglehawk> anybody who can help me with sound on laptop
[03:00] <NeonLightning> maby i should mount it to a dir in my users home like i did in my last linux install(that worked great actually before)
[03:00] <cpk1> NeonLightning: make a folder like test in /mnt and then chmod it to yourself to see if it works then
[03:00] <aios> my laptop fan is running non-stop, how can i fix this?
[03:01] <NeonLightning> what would be the chmod for that (i've had nothing but bad luck with chmod or chown)
[03:01] <ubuntu> ()()()
[03:01] <Jucato> cpk1, NeonLightning: better mount in /media. since only /home and /media are seen/visible by default on Edgy
[03:02] <FuriousGeorge> hey all.  i upgraded my nvidia driver but i must have forgot to do something because after reboot im getting the api mismatch error
[03:02] <FuriousGeorge> im from gentoo, so im not sure how this goes on kubuntu or debian-like distros
[03:02] <NeonLightning> keep in mind i'm using 6.06 LTS livecd
[03:02] <cpk1> Jucato: I recommended /media at first =P
[03:02] <Jucato> NeonLightning: ok that I didn't know :)
[03:03] <OldToker> NeonLightning: I just installed.. Edgy...
[03:03] <OldToker> and when I did it made me setup a user.. but I don't recall doing any setup for Root..
[03:03] <NeonLightning> and i'm trying to mount my hd so i can make a temp iso for k3b since and i need to make it writeable by user since k3b doesn't seem to like running in sudo on here
[03:03] <cpk1> NeonLightning: so chown NeonLightning:NeonLightning /mnt/test (or /media/test)
[03:03] <OldToker> so when I do   su from konsole.. it won't let me become root.
[03:03] <OldToker> ????
[03:04] <OldToker> how do I get to user administration?
[03:04] <Jucato> !sudo | OldToker
[03:04] <ubotu> OldToker: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:04] <cpk1> OldToker: prefix a command with sudo or kdesu if its a graphical command
[03:04] <NeonLightning> chown: changing ownership of `/mnt/hda1': Operation not permitted
[03:05] <NeonLightning> oh i should try running k3b in kdesu then(i've never had to do that one before or even heard of it since i normally use fluxbox in fc4
[03:06] <NeonLightning> didn't work
[03:06] <hollywoodb> dennister: if the situation arises, here's the basic steps: http://hollywoodb.livejournal.com/
[03:06] <hollywoodb> eaglehawk: what's wrong with your sound?
[03:07] <cpk1> NeonLightning: you need to do sudo chown
[03:07] <FuriousGeorge> so i the 9629 nvidia build working before i restarted my computer
[03:07] <eaglehawk> well sound is ok thru headphone on my laptop but no sound thru speaker
[03:07] <FuriousGeorge> now its now any more
[03:07] <FuriousGeorge> its not*
[03:08] <cpk1> eaglehawk: you check the levels in alsamixer?
[03:08] <FuriousGeorge> says i have an api mismatch between kernel driver and nvidia module
[03:08] <NeonLightning> command i used         ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo chown ubuntu:ubuntu /mnt/hda1
[03:08] <eaglehawk> yes unmuted and adjusted
[03:08] <hollywoodb> eaglehawk: yeah, I'd do what cpk1 says... play an audio file, unplug your headphones, and mess with 'alsamixer' while the sound is playing
[03:08] <NeonLightning> for some reason in a few distros i've found that alsamixer at every startup likes to have it muted
[03:09] <cpk1> NeonLightning: that didnt work?
[03:09] <dennister> that's wonderful hollywoodb; if other people come in with that i'll direct them to ur site
[03:09] <hollywoodb> NeonLightning: 'alsactl store' should store your settings across reboots
[03:09] <NeonLightning> cpk1: nope
[03:09] <FuriousGeorge> says the klernel module is the 8*** version
[03:09] <eaglehawk> is it a test and trial thing :)
[03:09] <FuriousGeorge> while the x-module is 9269
[03:10] <cpk1> NeonLightning: do sudo bash
[03:10] <NeonLightning> k
[03:10] <NeonLightning> now i'm in root
[03:10] <cpk1> then try to do chown without sudo
[03:11] <Jucato> (sudo -i would have worked as well, iirc...)
[03:11] <NeonLightning> same
[03:11] <cpk1> yeah I remembered after i said sudo bash
[03:12] <martiny> hola
[03:13] <martiny> necesito saber como instalar DIRECTX en cedega por que me lo pide para instalar need for speed most wanted lo hago pero no hace nanda
[03:14] <cpk1> este canal en ingles
[03:14] <Jucato> !es | martiny
[03:14] <ubotu> martiny: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:17] <smaggard> hello :D
[03:18] <NeonLightning> hey smaggard your help took forever of jumper and ribbon switching now i'm having issues getting my hd's to mount as writeable for my user account
[03:19] <walla> does anyone know how to update an ipod's firmware on edgy?
[03:19] <OldToker> Hey is there a Sweedish language group on IRC?
[03:19] <vipercat> where do i need to download or unpack a tar.gz file to so that i can install it ?
[03:19] <PA2>  the DVD RW drive used to load edgy doesn't work in edgy -- any ideas?
[03:19] <smaggard> ok you make the drive hooked to the end of the cable as master and the one in the middle as slave
[03:20] <PA2> I did -- they both work in Windows on the same machine
[03:20] <smaggard> do you know the pc basics? im just wondering.....
[03:20] <cpk1> vipercat: you probably want to make sure there isnt a .deb first
[03:21] <vipercat> i couldnt find a deb file for firefox
[03:21] <PA2> Yes, 22 years experience with PC hardware, 90 days with Linux, let's go with Linux
[03:21] <PA2> :-D
[03:22] <smaggard> then you need to be able to set a drive as master or slave and hook them up
[03:22] <smaggard> its easy, you set the jumper, and plug in the cable.
[03:22] <martiny> hola
[03:22] <PA2> it's not a hardware problem, it's a Linux problem
[03:22] <NeonLightning> hey smaggard http://pastebin.com/819443 any clues?
[03:23] <smaggard> PA2> i doubt its a linux problem :D
[03:23] <smaggard> neonlightning hold on a sec lemme see
[03:23] <NeonLightning> k
[03:23] <PA2> how would you explain that BOTH drives work in Windows on the very same PC but neither works in Linux?
[03:24] <cpk1> vipercat: umm firefox is in the repos
[03:24] <smaggard> PA2> user error with fstab configuration and mount points.
[03:24] <smaggard> neonlightning brb
[03:24] <NeonLightning> k
[03:25] <cpk1> !info firefox
[03:25] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 28588 kB
[03:25] <sync350> quick question: whats the difference in Konsole between a regular shell and a Linux Console?
[03:25] <Jucato> vipercat: are you on Dapper or Edgy?
[03:25] <cpk1> vipercat: you shouldnt have to do anything difficult to install firefox
[03:25] <sync350> like, is there anything you can do in one that you can't do in the other?
[03:25] <NeonLightning> run x programs?
[03:26] <PA2> my fstab says:  /dev/hda       /media/cdrom0 udf,iso9660,user,noauto 0  0   (and an identical line with hdb instead of hda)
[03:26] <sync350> NeonLightning: was that to me?
[03:26] <vipercat> im on dapper
[03:27] <NeonLightning> run graphical programs
[03:27] <smaggard> lol you have your master hard drive mounting as cdrom.??
[03:27] <dennister> Jucato: u were struggling with power management visibility for ur laptop?
[03:27] <sync350> NeonLightning: I know what an x program is, i was askin if you were talkin to me, by now im assuming you were
[03:28] <Jucato> dennister: no. I don't have a laptop. but I've seen people struggling
[03:28] <mh_> hi, does anyone know how to set the gateway and nameserver using ifconfig?
[03:28] <smaggard> neonlightning hmm ok just another second lol
[03:28] <Jucato> dennister: I was actually struggling with not knowing how to help :)
[03:28] <vipercat> whats a repo ... im a 1 day virgin with linux
[03:28] <NeonLightning> np dude
[03:28] <cpk1> !info firefox dapper
[03:28] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.dfsg+1.5.0.7-ubuntu0.6.06 (dapper), package size 7739 kB, installed size 22928 kB
[03:28] <PA2> no, the first line was there after the install
[03:28] <dennister> oh, ok...hollywoodb solved 90% of the problem and wrote a howto about it
[03:28] <cpk1> vipercat: are you trying to get firefox 2.0?
[03:28] <PA2> The second one someone told me to add, but I think it should be CDROM1
[03:28] <vipercat> yes
[03:28] <dennister> markelmas went away extremely happy
[03:29] <Jucato> vipercat: in K Menu, launch Add/Remove Programs. the search for firefox. put a check in the box beside it, and hit Apply Changes
[03:29] <cpk1> Jucato: he wants firefox 2.0
[03:29] <vipercat> i put firefox but nothing comes up
[03:30] <smaggard> neonlightning> ok to mkdir in /mnt you have to be root so first do sudo mkdir /mnt/hda1 -- what is hda1? windows im assuming?
[03:30] <dennister> the link will be in the logs if anyone's interested
[03:30] <Jucato> cpk1: is he on Edgy?
[03:30] <cpk1> Jucato: nope
[03:30] <Jucato> ah... that's a problem then :P
[03:30] <PA2> I think hda0 is Windows and hda1 is Edgy
[03:30] <administrator_> I want to be granted the permission to idle in here...
[03:31] <NeonLightning> my harddrive( that used to have windows but no longer does and i've already mkdird that
[03:31] <vipercat> i tried to install edgy but it just hand\gs after the kubuntu screen
[03:31] <smaggard> so hda1 partition is what?
[03:31] <NeonLightning> oh can i make files in a subfolder of mnt without beeing in root?
[03:31] <NeonLightning> its fat32
[03:31] <cpk1> vipercat: did you follow the online instructions on upgrading?
[03:31] <Jucato> NeonLightning: afaik, nope
[03:31] <smaggard> you gotta be root to mkdir in /mnt
[03:32] <vipercat> didnt upgrade i tried the complete install from scratch
[03:32] <cpk1> NeonLightning: you need to do -t vfat then i think
[03:32] <NeonLightning> should i do a folder in /home then instead
[03:32] <PA2> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[03:32] <PA2> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[03:32] <PA2> # /dev/sdb1
[03:32] <PA2> UUID=6db68e34-858b-46fe-89fb-2de0ea2e0db3 /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[03:32] <PA2> # /dev/sdb5
[03:32] <PA2> UUID=f534c70c-133d-40ac-bdbd-bdd020f13010 none            swap    sw              0       0
[03:32] <PA2> /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[03:32] <PA2> /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[03:32] <PA2> /dev/           /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[03:32] <smaggard> ok ban him
[03:32] <NeonLightning> btw the harddrive reads fine so this is likely to be my problem
[03:32] <smaggard> alrighty
[03:32] <smaggard> i would do like uhhh
[03:32] <PA2> does that help?
[03:33] <Hawkwind> !paste | PA2
[03:33] <ubotu> PA2: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:33] <cpk1> NeonLightning: you probably should mount with -t vfat though since its fat32 =P
[03:33] <NeonLightning> it is
[03:33] <smaggard> NeonLightning> i would do mkdir /home/ubuntu/hda1   THEN do sudo mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 /home/ubuntu/hda1
[03:34] <PA2> and that will bring the DVD RW online without hurting the two hard drives (Windows & Linux)?
[03:34] <NeonLightning> mkdir: cannot create directory `./hda1/blah': Permission denied
[03:34] <NeonLightning> btw i'm at present in /home/ubuntu
[03:34] <smaggard> you cant mkdir in your own home?
[03:35] <NeonLightning> no i made hda1 already
[03:35] <vipercat> where is the info on upgrading to edgy ?
[03:35] <NeonLightning> and mounted it using that one you told me to use
[03:35] <xsacha> why are you making blah in there?
[03:35] <NeonLightning> i'm just testing to see if i can write to it
[03:35] <xsacha> ohh
[03:35] <smaggard> i dont understand why you are making a new dir after you mount the drive
[03:35] <administrator_> OldToker: #Kebabeater
[03:35] <smaggard> ooo
[03:35] <PA2> I'm very confused...
[03:35] <smaggard> there are extra steps to the kernel for writing to windows file systems i think
[03:36] <NeonLightning> oh joy
[03:36] <xsacha> that's for ntfs, fat32 should be fine..
[03:36] <smaggard> as ntfs and fat32 are mounted in read only i believe.
[03:36] <smaggard> hmm
[03:36] <smaggard> neonlightning> hold on ill check for sure.
[03:36] <xsacha> try it with sudo
[03:36] <NeonLightning> i think my other hd might be ext3 so i maby should be trying that with it instead
[03:36] <aios> my laptop fan is running non-stop, how can i fix this?
[03:36] <cpk1> NeonLightning: yeah i just noticed you should do sudo mkdir /mnt/test and then mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/test
[03:37] <PA2> do i need to be root?
[03:37] <NeonLightning> but i thought users couldn't write anything in a folder in /mnt
[03:37] <cpk1> NeonLightning: sudo mkdir lets you do it
[03:37] <xsacha> just give it user write privileges afterwards if you dont to use sudo all the time :)
[03:38] <xsacha> chown to your user
[03:38] <NeonLightning> yea but i'm just trying to make something for my user account to write to since k3b wont run in root for some reason
[03:38] <NeonLightning> but when i tried to chown it it screwed up
[03:38] <xsacha> how so?
[03:38] <NeonLightning> http://pastebin.com/819443
[03:38] <BonBonTheJon> anyone know why konqueror in edgy stalls when displaying files, but the file selector works
[03:39] <cpk1> NeonLightning: please jsut do sudo mkdir /mnt/test and then sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/test
[03:39] <cpk1> and see if that works
[03:40] <NeonLightning> done
[03:40] <cpk1> acutally it should me mount -t vfat -o rw
[03:40] <NeonLightning> k i'll do that
[03:40] <cpk1> sorry for the mistake
[03:40] <cpk1> unmount it
[03:40] <PA2> mount: special device /dev/hda1 does not exist
[03:40] <xsacha> then chown -R ubuntu /mnt/test        ?
[03:41] <cpk1> mount -t vfat -o rw /dev/hda1 /mnt/test should be the command NeonLightning
[03:41] <NeonLightning> k now you guys say to chown it
[03:41] <cpk1> now dont chown it yet
[03:41] <NeonLightning> k
[03:41] <PA2> same thing
[03:42] <cpk1> try mkdir /mnt/test/testing
[03:42] <NeonLightning> denied
[03:42] <xsacha> wont work cpk1, root owns it...
[03:42] <NeonLightning> chown is denied aswell
[03:42] <vipercat> if i understand it right i can upgrade to edgy using adept ?
[03:42] <NeonLightning> and i'm sudoing chown btw
[03:42] <cpk1> but sudo mkdir /mnt/test/testing works NeonLightning?
[03:42] <abattoir> vipercat: NO
[03:42] <NeonLightning> nope denied
[03:43] <abattoir> !upgrade | vipercat
[03:43] <ubotu> vipercat: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[03:43] <cpk1> xsacha: thats what I was trying to confirm first =)
[03:43] <abattoir> vipercat: see those instructions
[03:43] <xsacha> no need to confirm that first :P
[03:43] <cpk1> xsacha: that root cant write either?
[03:43] <xsacha> that user cant write
[03:43] <NeonLightning> i'll try and write as root
[03:43] <xsacha> you already did NeonLightning
[03:44] <NeonLightning> works fine
[03:44] <cpk1> NeonLightning: didnt you just try sudo mkdir /mnt/test/testing?
[03:44] <xsacha> eh? sudo doesnt work, root does?
[03:44] <NeonLightning> oh i didn't read that right sory the first time was as user
[03:44] <xsacha> gah
[03:44] <cpk1> so doing it as sudo works?
[03:44] <vipercat> thankyou
[03:44] <NeonLightning> yes
[03:44] <xsacha> then what's the problem?
[03:45] <cpk1> NeonLightning: ok then unmount the drive
[03:45] <NeonLightning> i'm trying to get k3b running as a user to be able to write the temp file to this drive
[03:45] <NeonLightning> k
[03:45] <xsacha> you just need to make user owner and it'll work fine with user
[03:45] <cpk1> and then sudo chown -R NeonLightning:NeonLightning /mnt/test
[03:45] <campbch> has anyone here had any experience installing call of duty using wine?
[03:45] <xsacha> cpk1: his user is ubuntu
[03:46] <NeonLightning> k now remount it using the same command?
[03:46] <NeonLightning> yea i knew to user the right user
[03:46] <cpk1> NeonLightning: yup
[03:46] <NeonLightning> k done
[03:46] <NeonLightning> now test
[03:46] <cpk1> and see if you can do mkdir now
[03:46] <NeonLightning> denied
[03:46] <cpk1> permission denied?
[03:46] <NeonLightning> yep
[03:46] <cpk1> what does ls -l /mnt/test say?
[03:47] <NeonLightning> everything in there is owned by root
[03:47] <xsacha> there you go
[03:47] <cpk1> didnt you just chown it?
[03:47] <NeonLightning> yep before mounting it but the files inside are still owned by root
[03:48] <josh__> !@xgl
[03:48] <josh__> !xgl
[03:48] <josh__> !xgl
[03:48] <josh__> what the hell
[03:48] <NeonLightning> but i just noticed my ext3 partition is owned by 500 500 so maby i'll just say screw it for now and do it from there
[03:48] <Jucato> josh__: the bot is lagging
[03:48] <NeonLightning> i'll test that first atleast
[03:48] <josh__> oohh
[03:48] <josh__> yeah my lag is 8 seconds
[03:49] <xsacha> NeonLightning: don't give up yet, it is working fine and always has been.. just been ubuntu to be user
[03:49] <xsacha> if cli is too hard, go to kdesu konqueror, right click on folder and change user to ubuntu
[03:49] <Hawkwind> Though running konqueror as root/kdesu is *never* recommended, ever
[03:49] <NeonLightning> k yea i'm used to using nautilus and fluxbox
[03:50] <xsacha> oh ok
[03:50] <xsacha> can do it through nautilus
[03:50] <NeonLightning> oh this has nautlus on the livecd?
[03:50] <xsacha> but sudo chown -R ubuntu /mnt/test should have worked
[03:51] <NeonLightning> i'll try again
[03:51] <xsacha> when you mount, don't use sudo
[03:51] <NeonLightning> um i don't have it in my fstab so that shouldn't work should it
[03:52] <NeonLightning> yea only root can mount
[03:52] <xsacha> put it in fstab with user and noauto?
[03:52] <Hawkwind> NeonLightning: Not necessarily
[03:53] <NeonLightning> yea i'm using a livecd so i didn't want to have to edit my fstab
[03:53] <xsacha> ...
[03:53] <xsacha> why not?
[03:54] <NeonLightning> because usually when editing fstab i thought you needed to reset
[03:54] <xsacha> no, should take effect immediately..
[03:54] <Steven_M2> Hi all
[03:54] <NeonLightning> since i can never remember the commands for vim are there any editors other then OO on the live cd
[03:55] <xsacha> nano
[03:55] <NeonLightning> nano i do know
[03:55] <NeonLightning> actually pico but they are almost identical
[03:57] <Steven_M2> I have important info to add to the topic
[03:57] <Dr_willis> when editing the fstab,  i normally use 'mount -a' but it depends on what i changed. :)
[03:57] <case__> hi
[03:57] <NeonLightning> yea thats what i'm using
[03:57] <kaflan> i did not see Keyboard (Layout) Indicator applet in "Add to Panel..." dialog, what i shoud to do, to enable it?
[03:57] <NeonLightning> it worked just fine
[03:58] <NeonLightning> and the testfile worked fine aswell
[03:58] <josh__> !kde
[03:58] <josh__> wow stupid shit
[03:58] <rBlong2us> how do I fix my flickering screen?
[03:58] <NeonLightning> oh wait i forgot to mount it so it wasn't actally doing anything one sec
[03:58] <case__> i have a problem, i upgdate the package nvidia-glx with adept, but its now delete it because it dont find nvidia-kernel-1.0.9629
[03:58] <Jucato> josh__: I already told you the bot was lagging
[03:58] <case__> in the repo
[03:59] <case__> :(
[03:59] <josh__> i'm not happy
[03:59] <case__> you guys know where it is?
[03:59] <josh__> i'm gonna do beryl soon
[03:59] <NeonLightning> denied damn
[03:59] <rBlong2us> where can I look for Xorg drivers?
[03:59] <josh__> yo i got a tip for anybody who wants to install beryl
[03:59] <josh__> type !xgl and find the link to install xgl
[03:59] <case__> im using beryl
[03:59] <case__> its cool
[03:59] <josh__> then login to xgl when you install the session
[03:59] <xsacha> NeonLightning: after you mount, then chown
[03:59] <josh__> and install beryl on there
[04:00] <josh__> so then if u wanna game then you can just go back to kde
[04:00] <Steven_M2> who has auth to change the topic?
[04:00] <rBlong2us> could someone tell where to get the damn Xorg drivers?
[04:00] <xsacha> NeonLightning: but sudo chown -R ubuntu /mnt/test
[04:00] <rBlong2us> I have this higlhly annoying flickering screen
[04:00] <NeonLightning> but i added /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 vfat rw 500 500 shouldn't i not need to chown
[04:01] <Dr_willis> rBlong2us,  depends on the card..
[04:01] <Dr_willis> !ati
[04:01] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[04:01] <xsacha> what privileges on it?
[04:01] <case__> how can i know if there is a package installed?
[04:01] <case__> with the command line
[04:01] <NeonLightning> rw for user 500 500
[04:01] <Lunar_Raven> beryl is actually easy to install and work
[04:01] <Lunar_Raven> surprising
[04:01] <xsacha> NeonLightning: 500 500? huh?
[04:01] <xsacha> rw,user
[04:01] <josh__> !xgl
[04:01] <NeonLightning> user 500 group 500
[04:01] <josh__> lol just testing the bot
[04:01] <NeonLightning> oh ok
[04:01] <xsacha> is this fstab?
[04:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:02] <rBlong2us> Dr_willis: it's a crappy SIS driver that makes my screen flicker
[04:02] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:02] <rBlong2us> I've found on internet that I need to install xserver-xorg-driver-sis
[04:02] <Lunar_Raven> I wish 256mb or ram was good enough for the desktop effects =(
[04:02] <Lunar_Raven> too slow
[04:02] <Dr_willis> rBlong2us,  Ugh.. no idea there...
[04:02] <xsacha> NeonLightning: the numbers after options refer to whether you will fsck and whether it will dump... nothing to do with user
[04:02] <Dr_willis> !info xserver-xorg-driver-sis
[04:02] <ubotu> Package xserver-xorg-driver-sis does not exist in any distro I know
[04:02] <Dr_willis> !find sis
[04:02] <rBlong2us> okis
[04:03] <ubotu> Found: wlassistant, xserver-xorg-video-sis, xserver-xorg-video-sisusb, aqsis, aqsis-libs-dev (and 28 others)
[04:03] <Dr_willis> that could be some old info on the web.
[04:03] <NeonLightning> ok so now its got rw,user 0 0
[04:03] <Dr_willis> aha!
[04:03] <NeonLightning> still not allowed
[04:03] <rBlong2us> :-)
[04:03] <Dr_willis>  xserver-xorg-video-sis    - looks good..
[04:03] <rBlong2us> yeah
[04:03] <Dr_willis> It pays to 'play' with the bot. heh
[04:03] <xsacha> NeonLightning: can mount with user now?
[04:03] <Dr_willis> !info xserver-xorg-video-sis
[04:03] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-video-sis: X.Org X server -- SiS display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 267 kB, installed size 640 kB
[04:04] <rBlong2us> it tells me that it's already the newest version
[04:04] <Dr_willis> !info xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
[04:04] <ubotu> xserver-xorg-video-sisusb: X.Org X server -- SiS USB display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.8.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 39 kB, installed size 136 kB
[04:04] <Dr_willis> rBlong2us,  reconfigure the x display to use the driver yet?
[04:04] <Dr_willis> Wtf is a USB display driver?
[04:04] <rBlong2us> this isn't UB
[04:04] <rBlong2us> USB
[04:04] <NeonLightning> worked great thanks xsacha now to see if k3b will work
[04:04] <Dr_willis> I know..i jus saw that USB in the bot search. :P
[04:05] <rBlong2us> Dr_willis: yeah I've check xorg.config and IT IS using the sis driver
[04:05] <rBlong2us> with other distro this shit doesn't occur, I want this distro
[04:05] <Dr_willis> rBlong2us,  id have to go do some reading on the ubuntu/edgy wiki.. to learn any more.. or that driver may have a readme file..
[04:06] <Vipercat> im trying to upgrade to edgy from dapper using the command line gksu "upgrade-manager -c" but all i get is a message saying "could not run specified command"
[04:06] <Steven_M2> for those of you running Dapper, I've found a modified version of kopete that fixes the icq connect problem. Download it here. http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kopete-fix/kopete-dapper/kopete_3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu2~dapper3_i386.deb
[04:06] <Vipercat> what am i doing wrong ?
[04:06] <NeonLightning> cpk1: thanks for your help aswell and smaggard
[04:07] <dennister> hello again
[04:07] <NeonLightning> definately learned some stuff lets hope i remember it a day from now
[04:07] <rBlong2us> Dr_willis: thanks, I have another question, how do I change the framebuffer?
[04:07] <rBlong2us> I need sisfb
[04:07] <Dr_willis> rBlong2us,  i normally DISABLE all the framebuffer stuff. :P
[04:07] <dennister> i'm having trouble setting up a password for a newly installed phpmyadmin
[04:08] <Dr_willis> heh . thers proberly some sisfb module that needs loaded.
[04:08] <smaggard> ok im back :D
[04:08] <NeonLightning> GHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA now its writing the temp image fine but its having trouble fixating the disk
[04:09] <dennister> i looked in the brand-new htaccess.setup file in this new directory, but nothing seems to work
[04:09] <dennister> sorry, htpasswd.setup file
[04:09] <Rajah3000> I would like to install Flash Player for browsers on Kubuntu, and i have downloaded it, and placed the directory on the desktop, and followed both directions, to install it and can't get it to install!..is there a script command I can use in console to install it, instead of running a command from the x-window browse command enter thing?
[04:10] <rBlong2us> Dr_willis: how did you disabled it? Where is it?
[04:10] <hollywoodb> !flash | Rajah3000
[04:10] <ubotu> Rajah3000: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:10] <dennister> hey, hollywoodb! i have a new question :)
[04:10] <Dr_willis> rBlong2us,  i used the 'nofb' kernel option, i also use 'nosplash' :)
[04:11] <Dr_willis> I like console messages
[04:11] <dennister> i believe u recommended phpmyadmin?
[04:11] <NeonLightning> welp i think i'll have to try this again another time
[04:11] <hollywoodb> dennister: never used it
[04:11] <rBlong2us> Dr_willis: but where do I put that
[04:11] <NeonLightning> thanks for the help later people
[04:11] <fildo> can anyone help us out with a raid / scsi array setup with kubuntu
[04:12] <dennister> k, sorry, guess i mixed u up with someone else
[04:12] <Dr_willis> rBlong2us,  the grub menu config has a default options you can set, then rerun update-grub
[04:12] <rBlong2us> Dr_willis: thanks
[04:13] <mia> im using kubuntu edgy amd64
[04:13] <mia> i need 32bit compatibility libraries
[04:13] <Dr_willis>  /boot/grub/menu.lst       # defoptions=nosplash nofb pci=routeirq  (is what i am using at the moment)
[04:13] <dennister> Dr_willis: could u help me setup a password for phpmyadmin?
[04:13] <xsacha> what do you need mia (as 32-bit) ?
[04:13] <mia> are those available in the repo?  im looking at adept now.  anyone know what the packate is
[04:13] <mia> xsacha: vmware
[04:13] <dennister> or perhaps someone else who isn't too busy?
[04:13] <Dr_willis> dennister,  i know nothing about php,  or phpmyadmin
[04:14] <xsacha> ah, the 32-bit libraries should be in adept as ia32-libs
[04:14] <dennister> k..ty anyway
[04:14] <rBlong2us> Dr_willis: what does pci=routirq?
[04:14] <xsacha> !ia32-libs | mia
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ia32-libs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:15] <xsacha> lol
[04:15] <Dr_willis> rBlong2us,  thats for my extra ide controller card. :)
[04:15] <Dr_willis> I got all my pci slots full.. so i got a bit of a conflict according to the kernel boot messages.
[04:15] <campbch> how do i install a .deb file? im using sudo apt-get install wine*.deb and it gives the full name, but says it can't find the file?
[04:15] <Dr_willis> campbch,  use dpkg
[04:15] <hussein_> hi all
[04:15] <campbch> that just gives me a thing telling me to use aptitude
[04:16] <Dr_willis> campbch,  dont want to just use ' apt-get install wine '  ?
[04:16] <campbch> i need an older version
[04:16] <Dr_willis> dpkg -i whatever.deb
[04:16] <Dr_willis> campbch,  ICK.
[04:16] <eaglehawk> hello
[04:16] <campbch> ick?
[04:16] <Dr_willis> why would you NEED an older one?
[04:16] <eaglehawk> anyone who can help me with knetworkmanager
[04:16] <campbch> because wine has regression problems since they redid directx
[04:16] <Dr_willis> that sounds like a bit of a gamble.  heh.
[04:16] <Dr_willis> campbch,  ok. :P never noticed.
[04:17] <campbch> alright, got it :D thanks
[04:17] <Silver_Adept> Asking what is probably a pretty common question - I'm getting a "audio capture settings are invalid" error, and it's making programs like TeamSpeak and Skype thumb their nose at me. Any suggestions on how this gets fixed?
[04:17] <hussein_> guys any one know about irc that i can write my alias and script ?
[04:17] <Dr_willis> hussein_,  thats sort of vague.. :P
[04:17] <hussein_> hehehe
[04:18] <Dr_willis> hussein_,  many irc clients have a wide varity of scripting features.
[04:18] <eaglehawk> anyone who can help me with knetworkmanager
[04:18] <rBlong2us> Dr_willis: I get access Permission Denied when doing update-grub
[04:19] <Dr_willis> rBlong2us,  logic  101.. did you run it as root? should it be ran as root? is it doing system-wide things?
[04:19] <Dr_willis> :P
[04:19] <Silver_Adept> Did you sudo that command, rBlong2us?
[04:19] <Dr_willis> if so.. it needs a sudo.
[04:19] <hussein_> Dr_willis u know i need to add some commands and with this version of irc i can't get to the alias or to the script editor as MIRC you got it ?
[04:19] <rBlong2us> ahaa
[04:19] <Dr_willis> 'why are we here, where are we going.. where are my pants?'
[04:19] <fildo> !raid
[04:19] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:20] <hussein_> !irc
[04:20] <ubotu> irc is Internet Relay Chat - Ubuntu IRC clients: xchat (http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/XChatHowto), gaim (http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Konversation (http://konversation.berlios.de/docs/) - Also see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat and !guidelines
[04:20] <eaglehawk> anyone who can help me with knetworkmanager
[04:20] <rBlong2us> Dr_willis: and a editor right?
[04:20] <hussein_> yes Dr
[04:20] <Dr_willis> hussein_,  'this version of irc'  - You use specific irc clients to connect to irc servers.. :) you are using  the phrase 'this version of irc' in a vague way.. WHAT irc client are you using.
[04:20] <rBlong2us> Dr_willis: doesn't give me an option to edit grub
[04:21] <campbch> has irc as a protocol had versions?
[04:21] <hussein_> I'm here through terminal
[04:21] <Dr_willis> rBlong2us,  the grub settings are in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:21] <AtticStorm> Has anyone done work with LyX and gotten the spellchecker to work?
[04:21] <hussein_> :*
[04:21] <Dr_willis> rBlong2us,  and  BACKUP that file befor messing with it.
[04:21] <Dr_willis> hussein_,  you mean to say you are using 'irssi' ?
[04:22] <Z330> hey guys
[04:22] <ubuntu> anyone here think amarok is badass?
[04:22] <Z330> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:22] <Z330>   python2.4-mmpython: Depends: lsdvd but it is not installable
[04:22] <Z330> E: Broken packages
[04:22] <hussein_> irc konversation Sir
[04:22] <Z330> i can't install
[04:22] <Z330> python2.4-mmpython
[04:22] <Z330> trying to install freevo
[04:22] <eaglehawk> anyone who can help me with knetworkmanager
[04:23] <campbch> what do you need help in doing?
[04:23] <Silver_Adept> Has anyone had difficulty in getting their microphone to record in Edgy?
[04:24] <xsacha> Silver_Adept: my microphone for some reason has volume really low (i've set it at 100 everywhere)
[04:25] <Silver_Adept> Not low volume. I'm getting a "your audio capture settings are invalid" error, xsacha.
[04:25] <xsacha> oh, nup havent had that
[04:25] <Silver_Adept> Well, I had it in Dapper, and then I managed to fix it. But I've forgotten how I fixed it.
[04:26] <xsacha> try messign around with setting in kmix
[04:26] <eaglehawk> anyone who can help me with knetworkmanager
[04:26] <Silver_Adept> Volume's all the way up.
[04:27] <xsacha> is the red light below it on?
[04:27] <Silver_Adept> Aye.
[04:27] <xsacha> try messing around in Switches :P
[04:27] <eaglehawk> anyone who can help me with knetworkmanager
[04:27] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. firefox has hung on me twice now.. in 10 min.. odd
[04:28] <Dr_willis> eaglehawk,  try being a LITTLE more detailed...
[04:28] <Arafangion> Dr_willis: Consider Opera9
[04:28] <Silver_Adept> I was looking at the switches. I'm not sure any of them apply. None of them are on.
[04:28] <Arafangion> Dr_willis: That or Konqueror :)
[04:28] <Silver_Adept> Error is: "Your audio capture settings are invalid. Please correct them in the Multimedia settings."
[04:28] <Silver_Adept> (Firefox 2 is better about memory management.)
[04:28] <Dr_willis> Arafangion,  this is the first time ive had issues with it. :) wonder whats going on.
[04:28] <Z330> root@tv-desktop:~# apt-get install lsdvd
[04:28] <josh__> my sound is really dim
[04:28] <smaggard> i would suggest correcting the the issue
[04:28] <Dr_willis> time to remove the extension i isntalled a while ago.
[04:28] <Z330> Reading package lists... Done
[04:28] <Z330> Building dependency tree... Done
[04:28] <Z330> Package lsdvd is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[04:28] <Z330> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[04:28] <Z330> is only available from another source
[04:28] <Z330> E: Package lsdvd has no installation candidate
[04:28] <josh__> its usually alot louder
[04:29] <josh__> at the current setting
[04:29] <Z330> this be the mirror i'm using mayb?
[04:29] <campbch> ok. is anyone here familiar with wine at all? and getting games to work?
[04:29] <josh__> yeah
[04:30] <josh__> prey and guild wars are the only ones that worked
[04:30] <josh__> for me
[04:30] <xsacha> got all my games working on wine
[04:30] <campbch> i am getting an error --- Unhandled exception: page fault on read access to 0xe19e4981 in 32-bit code (0x10009a94)
[04:30] <josh__> i think f.e.a.r. would
[04:30] <josh__> but my cd key had a section of it that was too wide to fit in the box
[04:30] <campbch> on cod, which is supposed to be a platinum game
[04:31] <campbch> and it absolutely will not install. everything else up to that point is fine, but the installer itself says that there was an IO error
[04:31] <eaglehawk> can somebody help me with knetworkmanager...I have installed it but it does not give me options to adjust wireless settings
[04:31] <campbch> the game works perfectly on a windoze box
[04:31] <xsacha> campbch: what version of wine?
[04:31] <campbch> 9.16
[04:32] <xsacha> there are a lot of bug reports on that and it was apparently fixed.. try the latest
[04:32] <campbch> i downgraded, because someone said in winehq that it might have been broken
[04:32] <campbch> i initially tried on version 9.24
[04:32] <xsacha> oh, i dunno, im using 0.9.24
[04:32] <campbch> :o
[04:32] <campbch> .... why meeee?
[04:32] <campbch> bad luck
[04:33] <xsacha> you could manually install that game :P
[04:33] <campbch> how so?
[04:33] <xsacha> extract the files into right spot, put in correct registry entries
[04:33] <campbch> how?
[04:33] <campbch> how do i know?
[04:33] <xsacha> ... that's hard?
[04:33] <campbch> yes
[04:33] <xsacha> they come in the installer
[04:33] <campbch> :p
[04:33] <campbch> the game is installed
[04:33] <campbch> i dont know what its missing
[04:34] <campbch> i can launch the launcher
[04:34] <campbch> but i dont know where everything goes
[04:34] <xsacha> launching it from.. ?
[04:34] <Arafangion> campbch: If you have a win98 disc or newer, you could install it within an emulator, then copy the files over? (Ask #winehq to see if that technique still works)
[04:34] <Arafangion> campbch: However, in general, nearly everything installs just fine in wine.
[04:34] <campbch> no, thats too much
[04:34] <xsacha> or you could install it on windows box and copy it over
[04:35] <ricky> could anyone here provide a little help with AIGLX and beryl? (the ubuntu-xgl area is kinda dead at the moment)
[04:35] <campbch> it should work in wine, why isnt it?
[04:35] <campbch> on ANY version?
[04:35] <xsacha> or you could just look where the temporary files extracted to
[04:35] <campbch> :O
[04:35] <campbch> ok
[04:35] <xsacha> and then put them in program files/gamename
[04:35] <Arafangion> campbch: The installer is generally just expected to work today.
[04:36] <Arafangion> campbch: What's the app?
[04:36] <campbch> assume for a moment that i dont know exactly where all of the temp files, all of everything is located, which i dont
[04:36] <campbch> how do i fix this?
[04:36] <campbch> the app is installed into ./wine/c etc program files/CODsomething/wherever
[04:36] <sledge> Can someone recommend a filesystem with version control support? (I.e. like VMS back in the day...)
[04:37] <Arafangion> sledge: Simple backups aren't sufficient for you?
[04:37] <eaglehawk> somebody help me with knetworkmanager...I have installed it but it does not give me options to adjust wireless settings
[04:37] <campbch> its call of duty
[04:38] <xsacha> version 1.5?
[04:38] <sledge> Arafangion: No.
[04:38] <Silver_Adept> eaglehawk: I believe that's a separate application.
[04:39] <xsacha> campbch: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=3603
[04:39] <xsacha> they recommend using "Loki installer"
[04:39] <Arafangion> sledge: You're after something more akin to Plan9, I see?
[04:39] <sledge> Arafangion: Yeah, I've taken a look at plan9 before.
[04:40] <Lunar_Raven> !java
[04:40] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:40] <campbch> it doesnt say how to use the loki installer?
[04:41] <campbch> i know what it is, but wasnt loki a company that went out of business?
[04:41] <campbch> now im confused?
[04:42] <Arafangion> How do I "unfreeze" my console?
[04:43] <Arafangion> Some typo has rendered it frozen.  Probably ^s, but ^q doesn't unfreeze it.
[04:43] <Arafangion> Ahh, finally got it back.
[04:43] <Silver_Adept> ^c
[04:43] <Silver_Adept> Or something like that?
[04:43] <corey> has anyone here used ready to program with java on windows and know if there is a compiler for linux that does hsa boilerplates
[04:44] <Arafangion> Silver_Adept: No :)
[04:44] <Arafangion> corey: hsa?
[04:44] <Silver_Adept> Ye old break command, Arafangion. It was worth a shot.
[04:45] <Arafangion> Silver_Adept: Didn't want to damage the nethack game ;)
[04:45] <corey> yeah it's what we use in our programming class and i'd like to not have to go into windows to compile the programs
[04:45] <Arafangion> corey: Well, I'm sure if you call it "gtf" instead, it'll work.
[04:45] <Silver_Adept> Ah, got it Arafangion. Participating in the Ascension tournament?
[04:45] <Arafangion> Silver_Adept: Not that good :(
[04:45] <Arafangion> As it is, the finger acrobatics performed in trying to unfreeze the console killed me :(
[04:46] <Arafangion> Silver_Adept: It's very addictive, though you tend to only use the one roguelike, because of hte high initiazation costs (complex keybindings)
[04:46] <Silver_Adept> Makes sense.
[04:48] <Silver_Adept> Still having that wonderful "media settings are invalid" error. Any ideas on how to fix it?
[04:49] <Silver_Adept> Rather, "audio capture settings are invalid"
[04:50] <Rajah3000> Can someone please tell me how I can get permisson to copy the flash player componants in the browser plug-in folders?
[04:50] <xsacha>  is there a graphical roguelike?
[04:50] <Silver_Adept> sudo it, Rajah3000.
[04:50] <Rajah3000> how so?
[04:50] <Arafangion> xsacha: falcon's eye, and there's always the x11 frontend to rouge.
[04:51] <Arafangion> xsacha: But they're problematic, doing graphics for the hundreds of different unique monsters alone is a discouraging prospect.
[04:51] <Silver_Adept> Sudo cp (source file) (destination)
[04:51] <eaglehawk> is there somebody to help me with knetworkmanager...I have installed it but it does not give me options to adjust wireless settings
[04:51] <Rajah3000> i just want to drag and drop them in the directory like the manual install tells you, but it doesn't have permissons
[04:51] <Silver_Adept> Drag and drop doesn't sudo by default, Rajah3000.
[04:51] <xsacha> http://users.tkk.fi/~jtpelto2/nhscreen_big05.jpg heh perfect :)
[04:52] <Rajah3000> Ok, can I change that to do it by default
[04:52] <Silver_Adept> ...I'm not sure, honestly.
[04:52] <josh__> !xgl
[04:52] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:52] <josh__> damn bot
[04:53] <josh__> yuss
[04:53] <josh__> i'll do it tomorrow
[04:54] <corey> why does everyone go with xgl when aiglx is better
[04:54] <Rajah3000> So can I do a command in terminal to go into sudo mode to copy these flash files for my browser plugins?
[04:56] <Arafangion> corey: Because xgl has more articles and media hype.
[04:56] <corey> damn media
[04:56] <corey> with their black eyed peas winning best album awards
[04:56] <Arafangion> corey: Same reason why everybody uses Java :)
[04:56] <Silver_Adept> Yep, Rajah3000. - the command structure is sudo cp (source file location) (destination location)
[04:57] <Rajah3000> ok, I get the gest anyway
[05:00] <dhuv> I am having issues with booting while the miniPCI wireless card is installed, I keep getting "failed to start the card", I have seen references to this bug and suggestions to add irqpoll to the grub boot options but this has not helped me
[05:00] <dhuv> I think the problem might be that the ipw2100 firmware is not on the system
[05:01] <dhuv> I tried to put the files in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/ but this obviously is not working
[05:01] <dhuv> does anybody know where these files exactly go
[05:01] <Arafangion> dhuv: What did the documentation say?
[05:02] <dhuv> Arafangion: which documentation?
[05:06] <Arafangion> dhuv: You loose.
[05:07] <Silver_Adept> Ah, well. G'night. Hopefully someone can tell me how to fix the microphone problems soon.
[05:12] <DivineB> I been reading over the remaster doc, but how would I adjust the default profile to auto launch firefox or opera.. thanks for any help given
[05:21] <seishinbyou> Question about tunafish...er, tune2fs
[05:21] <dennister> hmmmmm
[05:21] <seishinbyou> What is the command to completely shut off the periodic "checks" at bootup?  tune2fs -c 0 /dev/hd?
[05:25] <Healot> seishinbyou: yes
[05:27] <DivineB> I been reading over the remaster doc, but how would I adjust the default profile to auto launch firefox or opera.. thanks for any help given
[05:27] <seishinbyou> Hmm, I'll try again, then.  It did it's *thing* when one of the managers fired up a box this morning for a presentation.  The "check" pissed off the clients (typical J.Businessman attitude, but still).  I was asked to "fix the problem"
[05:27] <Healot> you work with ucom?
[05:27] <seishinbyou> No, KDDI
[05:27] <nikon> hello all
[05:28] <Healot> at client site huh?
[05:28] <seishinbyou> Yep.  The joy of the Shinjuku monstrousity
[05:28] <phil_> mounted floppy using pmount,how do I unmount it?...tried upmount.
[05:29] <Healot> seishinbyou: -c 0 should make fsck ignore the max number of mounts
[05:29] <sledge> seishinbyou: tune2fs -c0 /dev/<device>      (only recommended for ext3, though)
[05:29] <Healot> phil_: eject
[05:29] <phil_> thankx will give it a try...
[05:29] <seishinbyou> Okay, that is what I tried originally, but maybe not on my boss' box.  I ran the command and it seemed fine
[05:30] <seishinbyou> I swear, these people have no patience
[05:30] <phil_> that worked good call
[05:31] <Healot> seishinbyou: nanja kora, hayaku shiagare :)
[05:32] <seishinbyou> Healot: In not so many words :)  More like loud sighs, constant checking of watches and schedule...
[05:32] <seishinbyou> 
[05:32] <sledge> seishinbyou: so why didn't he power up his box before the presentation?
[05:32] <seishinbyou> His laptop behaves really freaky if you want to hook it up to a projector
[05:32] <Healot> hehe, that stare, that eye, that look
[05:33] <seishinbyou> If it isn't connected at powerup, strange things happen; he will lose his display
[05:33] <Healot> clearly the internal, needs repair
[05:33] <seishinbyou> My laptop has a similar problem, but we are the same brand, so go figure
[05:35] <Healot> the S brand?
[05:35] <seishinbyou> LaVia (NEC), the "LN" series
[05:35] <seishinbyou> With a really, really freaky widescreen res
[05:36] <Healot> what the res now, seishinbyou?
[05:39] <seishinbyou> 1280x600
[05:40] <seishinbyou> Same as the Libretto L1
[05:40] <Healot> that's odd
[05:40] <seishinbyou> Everyone tries to correct me "1280x800, you mean?" No, 1280x600
[05:40] <Healot> yup odd NEC screen res
[05:40] <Healot> can you do 1360x800?
[05:41] <seishinbyou> No, unfortunately
[05:41] <Healot> I saw this one bfore
[05:41] <seishinbyou> I can display 640x480 (streched), 800x600 (stretched), 1024x600 (stretched), and 1280x600
[05:43] <Healot> japanese notebooks are crazy
[05:44] <seishinbyou> Also, many of the "media" keys aren't even picked up by xev
[05:44] <seishinbyou> Which especially sucks on this laptop, because CD eject is one of them
[05:44] <seishinbyou> I can eject CDs with the "Eject" command from a right-click
[05:44] <Healot> how bad is the CD eject?
[05:45] <seishinbyou> The drive doesn't have a button on it; you have to press the eject "button" on the keyboard
[05:45] <Healot> oh
[05:45] <BonBonTheJon> seishinbyou: you can run "eject" from the command line
[05:45] <Healot> unlikely
[05:45] <seishinbyou> Yes, I know, that is one other way I have been using CDs,
[05:45] <Healot> eject key on the keyboard :-
[05:45] <seishinbyou> The drive itself is flaky, though, so I don't worry about it too much; just use the external lying around the office
[05:46] <seishinbyou> Brightness/Contrast/Volume would be nice to have, though
[05:46] <Healot> that's rather a standard feature
[05:46] <seishinbyou> You would think so
[05:47] <seishinbyou> The keys exist, but I can only use them in Windows and in Grub for some reason
[05:47] <Healot> while in Windows or GRub?
[05:48] <seishinbyou> In Windows, I can use the media keys with no problem.  When I first turn on the system and am at the Brub boot loader menu, I can use them as well
[05:48] <seishinbyou> Weird
[05:48] <seishinbyou> Once I boot into Kubuntu, no go, the system forgets I even have the keys
[05:48] <smaggard> hey everyone :D
[05:50] <smaggard> anyone know why when i startup an xgl session from kdm it just hangs?
[05:50] <troy> hey guys, don't know if anyone knows, but: does anyone know how to make a qmake powered compile distinguish between qt3 and qt4 easily?
[05:55] <Tarterus> Hey. Can anyone help me? I'm brand new to Kubuntu. I want to reformat my hardrive.
[05:56] <Zaire> anyone in here know of any good linux web design programs prefferably available to apt
[05:56] <dennister> Tarterus: do you have a kubuntu installation yet?
[05:56] <Zaire> it has to be one with syntax highlighting to
[05:57] <Tarterus> Yes. It's installed. I had a problem with the system. I dropped it and the Windows XP stopped working. All I had was a Kubuntu disk.
[05:57] <Zaire> !qt
[05:57] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[05:58] <jpedroza> hello. is anyone in here using kubuntu-ppc
[05:58] <jpedroza> ?
[05:58] <Tarterus> I loaded Kubuntu onto my system, but I seem to still have residual programs from Windows, and I want to delete them.
[05:58] <smaggard> the dems are taking over :D
[05:58] <jpedroza> Tarterus: Did you format the drive during the install?
[05:58] <seishinbyou> bluefish?
[05:59] <smaggard> rb
[05:59] <smaggard> brb*
[05:59] <seishinbyou> !bluefish
[05:59] <ubotu> bluefish: advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.6-1 (edgy), package size 1568 kB, installed size 6728 kB
[05:59] <dennister> ah...ok..would you like to do a fresh install of kubuntu on a clean hard drive?
[05:59] <Zaire> if you installed kubuntu to your hardrive then there couldn't be residual components they would all be destroyed upon install cause it would partition first
[05:59] <Tarterus> I did not have the option of doing so.
[05:59] <Zaire> its automatic
[06:00] <jpedroza> seishinbyou: I prefer Quanta for web development.
[06:00] <seishinbyou> jpedroza: Fair enough; I just use vim anyways
[06:00] <Healot> eclipse :)
[06:00] <dennister> Zaire is right...you can't install kubuntu or any os without deleting partitions and reformatting those drive(s) already
[06:00] <jpedroza> seishinbyou: VIM is the best, bar none for development in anylanguage!
[06:01] <Zaire> if anything I know about partitioning and the installation of OS lol
[06:02] <dennister> heheh...same here...i feel like i've been installing os's and reformating drives and partitioning for 8-9 months--almost solid
[06:02] <Zaire> Im designing a business site from scratch so I need a good web designer lol
[06:02] <jpedroza> What would be the best Radeon driver to use with a Radeon 9000 PRO?
[06:03] <jpedroza> I have Kubuntu running on a Powermac G4 MDD and the screen looks really freaky
[06:03] <Tarterus> I have an 80 GB drive, but it says I only have 66 GB left. I don't have anything loaded on the system except for Kubuntu. Does it take up that much space?
[06:04] <jpedroza> Tarterus: Some is lost in the formatting of the drive. Most 80GB drives are really about 75 at best.
[06:04] <Zaire> I used a template from dreamweaver to make my current business site and its a mess not to mention things broke left and right on it so Im redesigning it from scratch lol
[06:04] <jpedroza> Crud-muffins, I just fried my X server!
[06:05] <jpedroza> What is the key to switch to the command line again?
[06:05] <Zaire> quanta it is lol bluefish doesn't have syntax highlighting lol
[06:06] <Zaire> ctrl-alt F1
[06:06] <jpedroza> Zaire: I really like Quanta
[06:06] <Tarterus> Thanks.
[06:06] <jpedroza> I have been using it for some time under Mandriva
[06:06] <Zaire> looks decent ....biggest thing I like is the highlighting
[06:07] <jpedroza> it works well with php as well as it has variablename auto-complete functionality
[06:07] <Zaire> cool sound like dreamweaver
[06:07] <Tarterus> Now I'm going to sound even more like a complete noob and ask if anyone can help me understand how to use this OS.
[06:08] <Zaire> only thing I didn't like about dream weaver is its code was kinda crappy and impossible to find problems
[06:09] <tanlaan> hello everyone :D
[06:09] <Zaire> so how well does quanta handle css?
[06:10] <Sheazsche> my speedstepping seems to go nuts occasionally. for no reason it will clock one of my procs all the way down and the other all the way up and alternate the two every other couple seconds. Even when im idling. Heats things up, i cannot dtermine what causes this
[06:10] <Zaire> hmmm thats a new one to me lol
[06:11] <tanlaan> anyone have a fix for random screen blips? like when in konqueror there are pictures off of the web that get random colors in them
[06:11] <Sheazsche> it happened once when i was installing a package
[06:11] <Sheazsche> and sometimes after gaming
[06:15] <Zaire> so does quanta handle css?
[06:16] <astronaute> why my mouse and keyboard stays on when I shut down computer in kubuntu, and they are turned off after shuting down computer from windows XP ????
[06:16] <Zaire> lol mines the opposite
[06:20] <dennister> ok...i've got a freenode foreign address connected to one of my ports, and as far as i know i'm not connected to freenode...or am I?
[06:20] <Zaire> this irc net is freenode
[06:22] <dennister> oh, ok...i was having some probs figuring that out...does anyone know the exact location so i can edit this konversation client?
[06:23] <dennister> scratch that
[06:23] <dennister> i must be tired, as i'm getting stupider by the hour
[06:23] <dennister> lol
[06:24] <tim> if I install windows on the partition that I left when I installed Kubuntu, is there something I have to edit in the boot selector config file
[06:24] <tanlaan> anyone know anything about screen discoloration? randomly pictures/letters that are loaded will get random coloration or be missing parts *mostly text, such as 0*
[06:24] <firebird619> I was just reading that in Edgy, AIGLX can be enabled without anything extra needing to be added. By doing so, does that enable desktop effects such as those Beryl provides, wobbling windows, the cube, etc.?
[06:24] <tanlaan> btw i have edgy
[06:26] <tanlaan> Is there any way to upgrade down to dapper drake from edgy?
[06:26] <tanlaan> sudo apt-get upgrade dapper-drake or something like that?
[06:27] <tim> quit
[06:27] <dennister> tanlaan...u upgrade to edgy from dapper...kinda hard to go in reverse
[06:27] <Zaire> yes beryl is relatively easy
[06:28] <Zaire> looks like tinytim got annoyed from no answer lol
[06:28] <dennister> that would be a downgrade
[06:28] <tanlaan> dennister: well i was expecting someway to downgrade
[06:28] <tanlaan> :P
[06:29] <Zaire> to do the downgrade so as to use the beta driver add the sources to your list and use this command sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[06:29] <Zaire> thats what I did anyway
[06:30] <tanlaan> well if there is a way, that would be cool *less bugs in dapper*
[06:30] <tanlaan> hmm
[06:30] <Zaire> Im running edgy and its alright but yea there are still bugs
[06:30] <siliticx> hey guys
[06:30] <siliticx> ive been on kubuntu for a whole 10 mins now ;P
[06:31] <tanlaan> Zaire: well im just guessing that this random coloration is a bug
[06:32] <tanlaan> maybe i should just install Ubuntu 6.06
[06:32] <Zaire> dunno Ive never really had a problem like that before
[06:33] <tanlaan> hmm :-\
[06:33] <tanlaan> yea im gonna try it
[06:33] <tanlaan> bye
[06:33] <siliticx> well this is weird
[06:33] <siliticx> i cant hear shit now :S
[06:34] <siliticx> i first srted amarok
[06:34] <siliticx> played the .ogg
[06:34] <siliticx> tried to add the mp3 support
[06:34] <siliticx> now no more sound..
[06:34] <Zaire> try installing xmms
[06:34] <Zaire> use konsole and type sudo apt-get install xmms
[06:35] <siliticx> i thought xmms was dead? or changed name
[06:35] <Zaire> nope
[06:35] <Zaire> Im using it right now
[06:35] <Zaire> nothing like a winamp equiv lol
[06:36] <Zaire> not sure if that will fix the audio prob though
[06:36] <siliticx> i want an itunes/wmp11 equiv ;P
[06:36] <Zaire> vlc
[06:36] <Zaire> VLC will play pretty much everything except for I believe .rm files
[06:36] <purpleposeidon> Ah, how lovely! I plugged in the camera... and it just worked!
[06:37] <siliticx> humm nope, still no sounds
[06:37] <siliticx> its weird
[06:37] <siliticx> its like trying to run through some odd video card
[06:37] <siliticx> might be the on board one
[06:38] <Zaire> hmmm might confuse it if your running a card and have onboard spose
[06:38] <Zaire> Im using all onboard right now
[06:38] <siliticx> i wannna use my audigy 2 zs
[06:39] <Zaire> hmmm someone else might be able to help but I haven't used a soundcard since my pentium 2 350 lol its been all onboard since then
[06:39] <siliticx> hahaha ok
[06:40] <siliticx> no idea where to change it anyway right?
[06:40] <Zaire> ummm k menu system settings would be the most likely place
[06:41] <Zaire> wow I just had one of those flashback to the oldest computer you used moments lol
[06:41] <Zaire> and I adore my 64 lol
[06:41] <siliticx> hahahah
[06:41] <Zaire> classic lol
[06:44] <Zaire> apparently ebay has the commodore 64 frogger game for 99 cents and its mint in packaging still
[06:44] <siliticx> do you know of some place to get drivers?
[06:44] <Zaire> Im not sure on that one
[06:44] <Zaire> !creative
[06:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about creative - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:45] <siliticx> !ati
[06:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:45] <Zaire> oh video driver
[06:45] <Zaire> yea that one there should help
[06:45] <siliticx> crap
[06:46] <siliticx> my card is a 9600..needs 9700 and above
[06:46] <adam_> how do i change the login greeter (where you type your username and password)?
[06:46] <Z330> i need help installing mplayer
[06:47] <Z330> on kubuntu can some one help me
[06:47] <Z330> i'm trying to install freevo
[06:47] <Zaire> !restricted
[06:47] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:47] <Zaire> well i'll be back in a bit
[06:47] <digivore_> whats the file called that i can add lines to so that they get run when i login..   aka... start up script??
[06:48] <adam_> i found how to change the splash screen easy enough, but where do u change the login screen ?
[06:48] <adam_> (where you type your username and password)
[06:49] <seishinbyou> System Settings -> Advanced -> Login Manager
[06:49] <Z330> Package mplayer-386 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:49] <Z330> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[06:49] <Z330> is only available from another source
[06:49] <Z330> E: Package mplayer-386 has no installation candidate
[06:49] <Z330> root@tv-desktop:~#
[06:50] <adam_> oh thanks i should have looked harder
[06:50] <Z330> what mirror has mplayer?
[06:50] <digivore_> Where can i add a line to run on login?   to configure my NIC to work properly....
[06:50] <dennister> g'nite all
[06:50] <seishinbyou> add a symbolic link to it in ~/.kde/Autostart/
[06:51] <seishinbyou> mplayer?  you could download it and build from source
[06:51] <Healot> the file interfaces /etc/network/interfaces; man interfaces
[06:51] <Z330> its not working
[06:51] <digivore_> seishinbyou,   so i can put the cammand i want to run in a file, and have that filename linked from that folder?
[06:51] <siliticx> erm question, where is synaptic in kubuntu?
[06:52] <digivore_> siliticx,   i think you have to install it..  i just did.
[06:52] <seishinbyou> digivore_> Yes
[06:52] <siliticx> ok so.. is there like an alternative?
[06:52] <digivore_> siliticx,  type 'sudo apt-get install synaptic'
[06:53] <Z330> can some one send me thare sources.list
[06:54] <Z330> or link me
[06:54] <Z330> to some good
[06:54] <Z330> ones i acn add
[06:54] <digivore_> seishinbyou,  will kubuntu go through all the files it sees in the ~/.kde/Autostart/   ?
[06:54] <seishinbyou> Anything that is there
[06:54] <seishinbyou> (Anything and everything), so don't overdo it.  I don't know if there is a limit
[06:55] <digivore_> Z330:   check out http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org/blog/lista-repository-sourceslist-ottimizzata-per-ubuntu-kubuntu-linux/     BIG List.
[06:55] <siliticx> when i run synaptic it said " Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168" in the background
[06:55] <siliticx> any way to see what that device is?
[06:55] <seishinbyou> dmesg?
[06:58] <fildo> sure u have enough repo's there"?
[06:59] <siliticx> just added all repositories in adept manager
[07:00] <Z330> how do i upgrade from 06
[07:00] <momal> well this is just weird.. suddenly firefox wont play sound in flash clips (using flash9 beta) and it did before >_<
[07:01] <siliticx> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:01] <siliticx> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:01] <siliticx> what gives?
[07:01] <digivore_> seishinbyou, if i make a file and stick it in autostart, and the command in it starts with 'sudo'    will it give me and error, or prompt me for my root passwd?
[07:02] <digivore_> siliticx, can't have synaptic and adept open at the same time
[07:03] <siliticx> i closed synaptic a while ago
[07:03] <siliticx> least.. i think
[07:06] <siliticx> any way to flush apt-get's timestamp? my clock was fucked up and had to go back 5 hours in the past
[07:09] <seishinbyou> digivore_ > I believe it will ask for a password
[07:09] <seishinbyou> You might want to try it once yourself first to verify
[07:10] <siliticx> all of this to be able to play some fricking mp3s
[07:11] <cpk1> mp3 support in kubuntu is pretty easy: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[07:11] <siliticx> wish it worked.
[07:11] <siliticx> now not a single sound wants to come out
[07:11] <siliticx> ogg or not
[07:11] <cpk1> well good thing the xine backend does work
[07:12] <siliticx> any easy way to restart fresh?
[07:12] <cpk1> what player are you using?
[07:12] <siliticx> amarok
[07:12] <siliticx> but like im saying
[07:12] <siliticx> ogg wont play, xmms isnt playing anyhthing either
[07:12] <cpk1> did you tell amarok to use xine?
[07:12] <siliticx> its like its trying to use my onboard sound which is disabled in bios
[07:13] <siliticx> yeah its using xine
[07:13] <cpk1> and did you tell it to use alsa?
[07:13] <siliticx> now i installed synaptic pretty much for nothing
[07:13] <siliticx> went back 5 hours in time on my clock to adjust it and now cant use sudo anymore
[07:14] <cpk1> siliticx: does any sound work?
[07:14] <siliticx> doesnt anymore
[07:15] <siliticx> it worked for the first .ogg in amarok when i tried
[07:15] <cpk1> well what did you break? =P
[07:15] <siliticx> but added some files to the collection , tried to play the mp3s
[07:15] <siliticx> told me it had to download a library, which it did
[07:15] <siliticx> then it broke
[07:15] <cpk1> mp3s wont play unless you get libxine-extracodecs
[07:16] <cpk1> amarok using alsa?
[07:16] <siliticx> i THINK thats the one it fetched
[07:16] <siliticx> want me to put also instead of auto detect?
[07:16] <cpk1> yes
[07:17] <siliticx> done
[07:17] <cpk1> but if no sound is working at all then that could be bad
[07:17] <cpk1> does aplay --list-devices output your soundcard?
[07:18] <Ayabara> I have a problem the someone told me is common. After I have been in xp, grub won't work. Anyone know if there is a fix for this?
[07:19] <cpk1> !grub
[07:19] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[07:19] <siliticx> card 0: V8235 [VIA 8235] , device 1: VIA 8235 [VIA 8235] 
[07:19] <siliticx> card 1: Audigy2 [Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350] ] , device 0: emu10k1 [ADC Capture/Standard PCM Playback] 
[07:19] <siliticx> is there a way to remove that card 0
[07:20] <Zaire> should be yes
[07:20] <cpk1> i think modprobe with the right option
[07:20] <siliticx> theres liek 4 devices in the card 1
[07:21] <siliticx> but what i want is that via one to be gone.
[07:21] <MilhousePunkRock> Good morning everyone!
[07:22] <siliticx> grrr i wanna be able to use sudo
[07:23] <digivore_> are there any package managers that keep a log of the items installed, maybe time-stamped?
[07:23] <Ayabara> cpk1, I haven't lost it because I installed windows, but it reboots after I visit windows.
[07:24] <Zaire> usually an install of linux just frags my windows OS which is why right now Im purely on kubuntu rather then dual booting
[07:24] <cpk1> digivore_: I believe aptitude "Remembers" what you install
[07:25] <Jucato> digivore_: Synaptic and aptitude. actually, anything you install/remove gets logged in /var/logs/dpkg.log
[07:25] <Jucato> er.. /var/log/
[07:25] <cpk1> siliticx: err are you at least able to start a konsole root session?
[07:25] <Zaire> yep theres a log for apititude in /var/log
[07:26] <MilhousePunkRock> Does someone know the command to start KLpaptop, the old power manager?
[07:26] <Jucato> aptitude has a separate log. but all apt/dpkg stuff also gets logged in dpkg.log
[07:26] <MilhousePunkRock> KLaptop*
[07:26] <siliticx> im in konsole
[07:26] <digivore_> Thanks Jucato
[07:26] <siliticx> but for some reason i cant even su myself
[07:27] <siliticx> it wont accept the password.
[07:27] <digivore_> I use synaptic more.
[07:27] <Zaire> did you setup a root account
[07:27] <Zaire> or rather give it a password
[07:27] <MilhousePunkRock> siliticx: AFAIK "su" needs the root pw
[07:27] <siliticx> i did
[07:27] <Jucato> !sudo | siliticx
[07:27] <ubotu> siliticx: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[07:27] <MilhousePunkRock> And sudo uses your pw when you are part of the sudoers group...
[07:27] <siliticx> i installed synaptic earlier
[07:27] <siliticx> while using sudo
[07:28] <siliticx> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov  8 06:00:54 2006
[07:28] <cpk1> siliticx: anyways I *think* modprobe -r snd-via82xx-modem will remove the card0 that you have but that might cause other problems, there should be a way to tell alsa to use card1 instead of card0
[07:29] <siliticx> modem?
[07:29] <Zaire> yea there should be a way to change card 1 to the default card
[07:30] <siliticx> jesus
[07:30] <Healot> moses
[07:31] <siliticx> i cant even go change the date/time to go forward to be after the timestamp, then to do sudo -K..because of the timestamp
[07:31] <MilhousePunkRock> Noah
[07:31] <siliticx> dunno who thought of that thing
[07:31] <siliticx> but its a giant circle.
[07:31] <cpk1> i do know that amixer -c card0 will let you change the volumes for card0 and you can do amixer -c card1 to set the sound for card1
[07:32] <Admiral_Chicago> siliticx: did you try looking at cron
[07:32] <Admiral_Chicago> do a man cron in the terminal
[07:32] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't know how to use it but that might help
[07:32] <MilhousePunkRock> siliticx: You could go into the bios and change your system clock though, in case you have the clock set up to be synched with the bios clock
[07:33] <siliticx> actually you know what
[07:34] <siliticx> ill just flush this and re-install 2morrow.
[07:34] <cpk1> err why?
[07:34] <MilhousePunkRock> Is it possible to have the main menu of programs being displayed in one line only, rather than putting it in two lines in small program windows?
[07:34] <MilhousePunkRock> siliticx: Your mind is still set to Windows...
[07:34] <cpk1> better to learn how to fix the mistake so it doesnt happen again
[07:34] <siliticx> seems to be so fucked up just cause of a damn.mp3 library
[07:35] <MilhousePunkRock> !language | siliticx
[07:35] <ubotu> siliticx: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[07:35] <cpk1> first of all libxine-extracodecs does nothing to sudo and does nothing to alsa
[07:35] <smaggard> hiyas
[07:35] <siliticx> dude i cant even do shit because of this stupid sudo bs
[07:35] <siliticx> bleh.
[07:35] <MilhousePunkRock> Mornin' smaggard
[07:35] <smaggard> goodbye siliticx :D *waves*
[07:35] <Zaire> the sudo pass is your normal login pass
[07:35] <smaggard> mornin;
[07:36] <smaggard> ack mornin'
[07:36] <siliticx> sudo: timestamp too far in the future: Nov  8 06:00:54 2006
[07:36] <cpk1> so try explaining what the problem is and maybe you can get help
[07:36] <siliticx> im stuck like this for the next 5 hours.
[07:36] <smaggard> my problem is with beryl...
[07:36] <nrdb> I would like to program the Atmell 89c2051 is this possible with Linux?
[07:36] <MilhousePunkRock> siliticx: Just go to bed, when you get up again, everything is fine... How many problems in life get resolved like this?
[07:36] <siliticx> and i cant go change the date/time since it wont accept the connection with su
[07:37] <cpk1> did you ever set up your su account?
[07:37] <Zaire> so right click the time area and select adjust date and time
[07:37] <smaggard> when i add the xgl session to kdm and try logging in, it just hangs and dumps me back to kdm.
[07:38] <siliticx> zaire i cant
[07:38] <siliticx> "Conversation with su failed"
[07:38] <smaggard> siliticx> restart your computer
[07:38] <smaggard> usually fixes that
[07:38] <MilhousePunkRock> smaggard: Unless you change the kernel, you never need to restart a linux box
[07:39] <smaggard> well thats the easiest way
[07:39] <Jucato> (except to conserve electricity)
[07:39] <smaggard> restart x then
[07:39] <siliticx> milhouse, try to answer my problem then
[07:39] <Jucato> sometimes the sudo timestamp problem disappears after a reboot. at least mine did
[07:39] <MilhousePunkRock> siliticx: I did, just wait until the timestamp is in the past again...
[07:40] <siliticx> ...
[07:40] <smaggard> sometimes i get unable to communicate with su server and i just restart and all is well again.. usually happens after coming out of suspend.
[07:40] <cpk1> so is he really mad or actually rebooting?
[07:40] <smaggard> lol iunno
[07:40] <Jucato> I hope he's just rebooting
[07:40] <Jucato> :P
[07:40] <MilhousePunkRock> cpk1: Either way, or both... ;-)
[07:41] <smaggard> ./startxgl.sh: line 3:  8250 Segmentation fault      Xgl -fullscreen :1 -ac -br -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:pbuffer
[07:41] <cpk1> he didnt really seem to want to listen to our advice
[07:41] <smaggard> ive been working on beryl/xgl for about 5 hours
[07:41] <smaggard> cpk1> no he did not...
[07:42] <Zaire> deff mad
[07:42] <smaggard> lol
[07:43] <Jucato> maybe taking a long time to reboot :P
[07:43] <smaggard> haha
[07:43] <Zaire> ummm if there was a way to do it from cli he could just reboot into recovery lol
[07:43] <cpk1> i'm sure there is
[07:43] <smaggard> or hit ctrl alt f1
[07:43] <Zaire> nope
[07:43] <cpk1> he can tell linux to sync to bios
[07:43] <cpk1> and then change the bios
[07:43] <Zaire> recovery has root the other doesn't
[07:43] <smaggard> login as root
[07:44] <smaggard> o u mean "real" root
[07:44] <siliticx> good news : rebooting made my mp3s/sound work
[07:44] <smaggard> nice
[07:44] <Jucato> see, told you he just restarted :P
[07:44] <Zaire> if you reboot using the recovery mode your automatically in as root however its all in cli
[07:44] <siliticx> there goes sudo too.
[07:44] <Jucato> siliticx: and sudo works again?
[07:45] <siliticx> yeah it does ;)
[07:45] <smaggard> happens to me all the time..
[07:45] <Jucato> hehe we're one  of the lucky ones
[07:45] <smaggard> rebot fixes
[07:45] <smaggard> reboot*
[07:45] <Jucato> sometimes, reboot doesn't fix it for others
[07:45] <siliticx> yeah people on the forum were like..
[07:45] <siliticx> change the date/time
[07:46] <siliticx> how if you cant use sudo, heh
[07:46] <nino> hi all
[07:46] <seishinbyou> 
[07:46] <nino> anybody that knows how to manually enable a network device??
[07:46] <abattoir> seishinbyou: hi, konnichiwa :)
[07:46] <abattoir> *hai
[07:46] <Jucato> sudo ifup <network device> ?
[07:46] <siliticx> wow, irc with hiragana
[07:46] <abattoir> !jp
[07:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:46] <Jucato> kombanwa
[07:47] <nino> lemme try thnx
[07:47] <seishinbyou> 
[07:47] <abattoir> hey Jucato
[07:47] <Jucato> abattoir: seishinbyou is our resident Japanese Kubuntu user. he might start a #kubuntu-jp lol
[07:47] <seishinbyou> I'm also insane
[07:47] <Jucato> er... that, too :)
[07:48] <Zaire> linux does that to you lol
[07:48] <abattoir> so that i can send !jp seishinbyou ;)
[07:48] <Jucato> seishinbyou: btw, I don't see boxes anymore :P
[07:48] <abattoir> * i can !jp seishinbyou
[07:48] <seishinbyou> What, so people type "!jp" and the bot says "I don't know, ask seishinbyou"?
[07:48] <Jucato> hehe
[07:49] <nino> it says ignoring unknown interface eth2=eth2
[07:49] <siliticx> ok now..the hard thing
[07:49] <seishinbyou> nino, wired or wireless?
[07:49] <siliticx> trying to put ati drivers
[07:49] <nino> wired
[07:49] <Jucato> !ati | siliticx
[07:49] <ubotu> siliticx: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:49] <seishinbyou> sudo ifconfig eth2 up fails you say
[07:49] <nino> ifup
[07:49] <Jucato> er.. seishinbyou, I think I gave him the wrong command...
[07:49] <Jucato> sorry nino :(
[07:50] <nino> ill try ifconfig hold on,...
[07:50] <seishinbyou> If there is a DHCP server involved, sudo dhclient eth2 after that
[07:51] <nino> no its manualy assigned ip
[07:51] <seishinbyou> sudo ifconfig eth2 (ip address)
[07:51] <nino> ok
[07:51] <Jucato> um... where could I get man pages for different C/C++ functions/libraries?
[07:52] <nino> nope still disabled!!
[07:52] <seishinbyou> what do you see when you type ifconfig by itself?
[07:52] <nino> the system already has eth0 , i want to ad eth2 to the system aswell
[07:52] <seishinbyou> (recommends pastebin)
[07:53] <seishinbyou> Wait, what is eth1?
[07:53] <nino> eth0 eth2 lo, and all seems fine
[07:53] <nino> no eth1
[07:54] <seishinbyou> Jucato: Do you need to specify the ip address before bringing the interface up?
[07:54] <nino> hold up sorry its up
[07:54] <nino> came up just now, cool thnx
[07:55] <seishinbyou> w00t, seishinbyou help ++
[07:55] <Jucato> seishinbyou: hehe don't know :)
[07:55] <siliticx> !ati
[07:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:55] <Jucato> hehe
[07:55] <seishinbyou> seishinbyou level up.  seishinbyou gains the ability to case fire magic
[07:55] <Jucato> --Jucato
[07:55] <nino> cool man!!
[07:55] <nino> lol
[07:55] <Jucato> to case fire magic?
[07:55] <seishinbyou> *cast
[07:55] <Jucato> lol
[07:55] <seishinbyou> too much php these days
[07:55] <seishinbyou> like this "FIRE MAGIC"
[07:56] <Jucato> then? where's the case? :P
[07:56] <seishinbyou> switch (magic) { case "fire":
[07:56] <Jucato> hahaha
[07:59] <siliticx> guys
[07:59] <siliticx> is there any text editor with a gui
[07:59] <Jucato> Kate
[08:00] <MilhousePunkRock> KEdit
[08:00] <Jucato> kedit isn't installed by default though...
[08:01] <MilhousePunkRock> Maybe... I just wanted to say something useful too...
[08:01] <Jucato> hahah
[08:01] <siliticx> erm, is there any way to make sudo to prompt me visually for the password?
[08:01] <MilhousePunkRock> siliticx: kdesu
[08:01] <Jucato> !kdesu
[08:01] <ubotu> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[08:01] <siliticx> kawaii desu!
[08:01] <MilhousePunkRock> for example: hit Alt-F2 and type kdesu kate
[08:01] <Jucato> lol
[08:02] <siliticx> already added thge run command applet to the task bar
[08:02] <Jucato> I'm guessing Japanese people might be having a hard time pronouncing kdesu :P
[08:02] <Jucato> abattoir: you've been gone for quite some time :)
[08:02] <abattoir> or even Jucato :P
[08:02] <siliticx> less than pronouncing Wii
[08:02] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hehe
[08:03] <MilhousePunkRock> Watashi-wa MilhousePunkRock desu
[08:03] <abattoir> Jucato: umm, i'm doing the night shift these days ;)
[08:03] <Jucato> abattoir: hahaha
[08:03] <MilhousePunkRock> These days? ;-)
[08:03] <Vipercat> i am trying to update dapper to edgy using the ALT+F2 then typing in gksu "update-manager -c" as described on the update wiki but all i get is a message saying "Could not run the specified command"
[08:03] <Healot> MilfHouse :)
[08:03] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: unless you're a girl, I think you're better off with using "boku wa"?
[08:03] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: ok, 'only the night shift these days' ;)
[08:03] <Vipercat> can someone offer any help please?
[08:04] <Jucato> Vipercat: use kdesu instead of gksu
[08:04] <abattoir> Vipercat: thoser are for ubuntu w/ gnome
[08:04] <abattoir> Vipercat: we have no update manager here, yet
[08:04] <abattoir> !upgrade | Vipercat
[08:04] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: Really? Than I introduced myseld wrong all the time in Japan...
[08:04] <ubotu> Vipercat: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[08:04] <siliticx> humm is there any video driver tester?
[08:04] <abattoir> Vipercat: follow those instructions
[08:04] <MilhousePunkRock> siliticx: KGears or something
[08:04] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: well, that's what someone who worked in Japan told me. not sure if it was 100% accurate though
[08:04] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: it's technically right, boku is used colloquially
[08:04] <smaggard> what do i need to restart to have xorg.conf reread?
[08:05] <MilhousePunkRock> smaggard: X
[08:05] <Jucato> smaggard: restart X
[08:05] <MilhousePunkRock> :-D
[08:05] <abattoir> smaggard: save all unsaved stuff and press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[08:05] <Jucato> siliticx: glxgears ?
[08:05] <Vipercat> abattoir what instructions ?
[08:05] <abattoir> smaggard: or 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart'
[08:05] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato, siliticx: That's what I meant...
[08:05] <abattoir> Vipercat: the ones ubotu gave/will give you
[08:05] <seishinbyou> whoa, what was this about kdesu?  "It's K!"
[08:05] <Jucato> abattoir: does that restart X, or only kdm?
[08:05] <abattoir> !upgrade | Vipercat
[08:05] <ubotu> Vipercat: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[08:05] <smaggard> ah thats what i have been doing, just  making sure it was really redoing xorg.conf
[08:05] <abattoir> Jucato: X as well
[08:06] <Jucato> abattoir: ah I see. :)
[08:06] <abattoir> there he goes ;)
[08:06] <siliticx> humm i guess it works
[08:06] <flaccid> fdoving still hasn't fixed up the step 6. command on that wiki upgrade
[08:06] <Vipercat> those are the exact instructions that i am using and they tell me to use gksu
[08:07] <siliticx> now..should i even dare trying to get beryl?
[08:07] <abattoir> Vipercat: they do?
[08:07] <Vipercat> i tried it using kdesu but now i get Command 'update-manager not found
[08:07] <cpk1> Vipercat: you are not reading the link we are telling you to use
[08:07] <Jucato> Vipercat: because update-manager isn't installed on Kubuntu
[08:07] <abattoir> Vipercat: please click that link
[08:08] <Jucato> I think you read a different guide
[08:08] <cpk1> Vipercat: click this ---> http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade <----
[08:08] <flaccid> i wish fdoving would fix up http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade. its also funny how her refers to the ubuntu upgrade wiki which is for gnome and is called the official instructions. i thought that wiki.kubuntu.org was official...
[08:08] <Vipercat> whoa the first link sent me to a different one ... thanks ill try this one instead :)\
[08:09] <nino> Has Kubuntu have support for powerdown on hardrives after a given time??
[08:10] <flaccid> time to get drunk
[08:10] <Jucato> flaccid: wiki.kubuntu.org is wiki.ubuntu.com using a different style sheet
[08:10] <xsacha> what package do i need to stop this: warning: Charset "CHARSET" is not a portable encoding name
[08:10] <flaccid> Jucato: that justifies my comment even further
[08:13] <flaccid> but yeah i wish he would fix up the step 6 in the upgrade. because it doesnt run
[08:13] <MilhousePunkRock> nino: Are you on a laptop?
[08:13] <siliticx> my god this is easy
[08:13] <seishinbyou> xsacha: export LANG=en_US ?
[08:14] <xsacha> lang was en_AU.UTF-8
[08:14] <xsacha> this is compiler warning and it leads to: zh_CN.po:1498: keyword "sgid" unknown
[08:14] <sethfelder> !kde
[08:14] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[08:15] <flaccid> Jucato: /quit
[08:15] <flaccid> oops
[08:15] <Jucato> hehe
[08:15] <seishinbyou> xsacha: is it en_AU.UTF8 , or does that matter at all?
[08:15] <nino> MilhousePunkRock: No
[08:16] <seishinbyou> I has ja_JP.UTF8 and didn't know if the hyphen caused a problem
[08:16] <MilhousePunkRock> nino: Than it's not a good idea to power down the harddrive at all
[08:16] <seishinbyou> *have
[08:16] <xsacha> dont think my language matters, it's going to compile them all no matter what
[08:17] <xsacha> i dont want chinese though, so maybe i could just disable part where it writes to that
[08:17] <seishinbyou> For english, it doesn't.  For asian sets, it does, so if you don't mind the warning, that's fine, but I assume it is annoying?
[08:17] <nino> MilhousePunkRock: See its at night iv'e got my 3 SCCI's (Backup drives) still running when i dont need them, Only my SATA's need to run at night
[08:17] <xsacha> what should $CHARSET be?
[08:17] <siliticx> E: Couldn't find package beryl .. i did what the tutorial said...wtf
[08:17] <MilhousePunkRock> nino: Maybe laptop-mode-tools can help you
[08:18] <nino> MilhousePunkRock: K ill try them!
[08:18] <MilhousePunkRock> nino: But read carefully, we dont want you to break you hdds...
[08:19] <nino> MilhousePunkRock: Me neather!!
[08:19] <seishinbyou> While googling, I see some people put a line charset = 'US-ASCII' in their makefile
[08:19] <abattoir> siliticx: amd64 by any chance?
[08:19] <seishinbyou> Just to stop the warning from appearing
[08:20] <siliticx> Help requested
[08:20] <siliticx> anyone here installed beryl recently
[08:20] <siliticx> seems like the 3rd party repositories give an error
[08:20] <Vipercat> ok next problem i dont have a "|" key on the keyboard i am using for the linux box
[08:20] <seishinbyou> I have beryl installed and working... don't know how much I can help, though
[08:21] <siliticx> Reading package lists... Done
[08:21] <siliticx> W: GPG error: http://media.blutkind.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 31A5F97FED8A569E
[08:21] <abattoir> siliticx: please don't paste here
[08:21] <abattoir> !pastebin
[08:21] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:21] <siliticx> 2 lines? errr...k
[08:21] <abattoir> siliticx: ok, but in the future...
[08:21] <seishinbyou> Did you follow this : http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX#How-to_install_Beryl_with_AIGLX_on_Edgy_Eft
[08:21] <abattoir> siliticx: amd64?
[08:22] <siliticx> x86
[08:22] <abattoir> siliticx: http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/
[08:23] <abattoir> hmm, they've changed that page since yesterday
[08:23] <Healot> beryl
[08:23] <seishinbyou> Beryl and Scalc don't like each other
[08:23] <abattoir> oh, wrong link
[08:23] <abattoir> siliticx: http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/
[08:24] <siliticx> got it, thx
[08:25] <siliticx> "Go to System->Preferences->Sessions" i assume thats in ubuntu right? where is it in K?
[08:34] <draik> How do I creat an autostart app?
[08:34] <siliticx> beryl is awfully
[08:34] <siliticx> laggy
[08:34] <siliticx> on an 9600xt..normal?
[08:34] <draik> *create
[08:34] <Jucato> draik: ~/.kde/Autostart
[08:34] <Healot> siliticx: configured the 3D driver yet?
[08:34] <draik> Jucato: what do I send to that location?
[08:34] <siliticx> technically yet
[08:34] <siliticx> yes
[08:35] <Jucato> draik: um... you either create a Link to Application or a Link to URL (location) in that folder
[08:35] <Healot> tried the sample glx program yet?
[08:35] <draik> Jucato: Thanks, I will try that
[08:35] <siliticx> yeah..but even that lagged
[08:35] <siliticx> lemme try to reload x
[08:36] <Vipercat> when i folloewd all those commands all i got was 0 updated etc but always 0
[08:36] <Jucato> Vipercat: you already change your sources.list from "dapper" to "edgy"?
[08:38] <Vipercat> i did this cp /etc/apt/sources.{list,list.bak}; sed -i s/dapper/edgy/g /etc/apt/sources.list is that the same thing
[08:38] <Vipercat> sorry this is day 1 with linux for me
[08:38] <Jucato> well, I'm not sure if that's the same thing.
[08:38] <Jucato> hold on, what did you install in the first place? Dapper or Edgy?
[08:38] <Vipercat> dapper
[08:39] <Zaire> ouch that never worked for me...just destroyed my X
[08:39] <Jucato> ok, the only way to find out if that command worked is for you to check /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: It works, I upgraded that way...
[08:40] <MilhousePunkRock> Vipercat: run "sudo apt-get update" on a command line
[08:40] <Vipercat> it said permission denied
[08:40] <Jucato> Vipercat: did you do "sudo -i" before you started?
[08:41] <Vipercat> yeo
[08:41] <Vipercat> im using the shell konsole
[08:42] <MilhousePunkRock> Vipercat: Is the user you are trying to upgrade with in the sudoers group?
[08:42] <Vipercat> currrently root@kuby;#
[08:42] <unix_infidel> hmm, for some reason k3b is unable to support mp3 burn to audio CD?
[08:42] <Jucato> unix_infidel: install libk3b2-mp3 I think
[08:42] <Vipercat> whats a sudoers group
[08:43] <Jucato> Vipercat: just to double check, what's the output of this command "lsb_release -a"? (specifically the Description line)
[08:43] <tachyon> Vipercat: the sudoers group is a group of users that is allowed to run the "sudo" command
[08:43] <Vipercat> with or without the "
[08:44] <unix_infidel> Jucato: gracias.
[08:44] <nino> unix_infedel: k3b-mp2 package is the one
[08:44] <Jucato> Vipercat: without the "
[08:44] <nino> unix_infedel: k3b-mp3 sorry package is the one
[08:44] <Jucato> !libk3b2-mp3
[08:44] <ubotu> libk3b2-mp3: The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.17-1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 37 kB, installed size 100 kB
[08:44] <Jucato> nino: ^^^^^^^
[08:45] <Siliticx> guys, bad news
[08:45] <Vipercat> no lsb modules are available
[08:45] <Siliticx> i did ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:46] <Vipercat> distributor id ubuntu
[08:46] <Siliticx> my screen is black in kubuntu
[08:46] <Jucato> Vipercat: the Description line?
[08:46] <Siliticx> cant do anything
[08:46] <Siliticx> reset or not
[08:46] <Vipercat> description ubuntu 6.06.1 lts
[08:46] <Jucato> ah ok...
[08:46] <draik> Siliticx: Have you tried     dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ?
[08:47] <Siliticx> how am i suposed to do that if i cant even get to a command line?
[08:47] <draik> Siliticx: How are you in this chat?
[08:47] <venkat> nick/ jobless
[08:47] <Siliticx> windows
[08:47] <draik> You do get a CLI
[08:47] <Zaire> recovery kernel
[08:48] <Siliticx> ah ok, like the 2nd boot thing in grub?
[08:48] <Zaire> yeps it give you a cli interface
[08:48] <Siliticx> k ill check it out 2morrow morning
[08:48] <Siliticx> lemme note that
[08:48] <draik> Siliticx: You get a CLI, just press CTRL+ALT+F1
[08:48] <jobless> hey can anyone help me on viewing shared folders on my computer usning kubuntu?
[08:48] <Zaire> theres that to if it works if not the other will
[08:49] <Jucato> Vipercat: can you pastebin your sources.list?
[08:49] <Siliticx> ok.. anyone else got an idea?
[08:49] <Jucato> !pastebin | Vipercat
[08:49] <ubotu> Vipercat: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:49] <jobless> abattoir: are u there?
[08:49] <Siliticx> or will dpkg-reconfigure do the job?
[08:50] <Jucato> Siliticx: this happened after doing what?
[08:50] <Vipercat> ok but i will have to change machines im on the windows one at the moment
[08:50] <Vipercat> brb
[08:50] <Siliticx> Jucato, the beryl setup
[08:50] <jobless> hey can anyone help me on viewing shared folders on my computer usning kubuntu? sorry for repeating the question .. but i just installed kubuntu
[08:50] <Siliticx> !beryl
[08:50] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[08:50] <Jucato> ouch... beryl...
[08:51] <Siliticx> yeah, i started it, with emerald
[08:51] <Siliticx> it was really really slow
[08:51] <Siliticx> on a 9600xt
[08:51] <Siliticx> either its an ati driver problem or its just beryl that's slow
[08:51] <draik> Siliticx: 1) CTRL+ALT+F1 to manually modify your xorg.conf (if you know what you did wrong)... if that doesn't work... 2) CTRL+ALT+F1 and type "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" (without the quotes)
[08:51] <Jucato> Siliticx: might want to try going to that channel to ask for help
[08:51] <Zaire> beryl was relatively easy on my nvidia
[08:51] <vipercat> Jucato how do i find my sources list ?
[08:51] <Zaire> lol if theres anyone on that can actually help
[08:52] <Jucato> vipercat: it's in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:52] <Zaire> I found the help in ubuntu-xgl to be lacking
[08:52] <Siliticx> Anyway, thx guys i guess
[08:52] <Siliticx> ill try that out tomorrow morning
[08:53] <Siliticx> gnight and thx for the help earlier
[08:53] <Siliticx> i was really starting to freak out
[08:53] <Siliticx> is there a command to remove a package?
[08:54] <Zaire> sudo apt-get remove package --purge
[08:54] <draik> Siliticx: sudo apt-get remove -purge [package] 
[08:54] <Zaire> package goes before purge
[08:54] <Zaire> I use it a fair amount
[08:54] <Jucato> Zaire: not necessarily
[08:54] <draik> Siliticx: Follow Zaire's command
[08:54] <Jucato> draik: that's --purge
[08:55] <draik> Jucato: I don't get paid enough for this...
[08:55] <Zaire> trust me jucato Ive done my share of purging lol
[08:55] <Jucato> draik: neither do I :P
[08:55] <abattoir> d
[08:55] <Jucato> Zaire: I do trust you. but I always purge too
[08:55] <abattoir> draik: you are paid only for one - ?
[08:55] <Zaire> especially after salsa lol
[08:55] <Siliticx> hehe anyway
[08:55] <Siliticx> nn
[08:55] <abattoir> jobless: hi
[08:56] <draik> JUCATO!!! I'm doing Tech Support now for the company... I should be officially on my own and out of the training/procedures class by friday
[08:56] <vipercat> Jucato i havepasted as requested
[08:56] <Jucato> vipercat: what's the URL?
[08:56] <Zaire> hmmm I get paid nothing...but then Im jobless lol
[08:56] <Jucato> Zaire: I don't think the position of --purge matters as long as it's after "remove"
[08:56] <vipercat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30593/
[08:57] <Zaire> it has to be after the package I just checked
[08:57] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Sleep? You still know what that is?
[08:57] <abattoir> Jucato: my clock says 07:57 :P
[08:57] <Zaire> oops nevermind typo lol
[08:57] <abattoir> MilhousePunkRock: hehe
[08:57] <Zaire> so it does work
[08:58] <MilhousePunkRock> abattoir: Your clock is wrong, I guess...
[08:58] <Zaire> well as I said Im not a total n00b but I still have much to learn
[08:58] <Jucato> no. abattoir is just plain weird :P
[08:58] <abattoir> heh
[08:59] <MilhousePunkRock> x2 Jucato
[08:59] <MilhousePunkRock> Weird, but always helpful... :-D
[08:59] <xsacha> i had my clock ahead some time.. kept getting clock skew warnings "this file was modified 2.6x10^12 in the future" and stuff like that.. i just restarted computer and it was all fine
[08:59] <Zaire> damn overlords is down again
[09:00] <Jucato> vipercat: I have a feeling there's something wrong with the au.archive.ubuntu.com servers. I suggest you edit sources.list and remove the "au." from every line
[09:00] <fiyawerx> hey guys, i did an install about .. phew, 6 months ago maybe? and havn't used it much since, just logged in and did an apt-get dist-upgrade, everythings eems ok, just wondering if there's anything especially new i should be looking for?
[09:00] <xsacha> :O i use au. what's wrong with them? :(
[09:00] <Jucato> vipercat: press Alt+F2, and type in "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[09:00] <Jucato> xsacha: were you able to dist-upgrade to Edgy using au.?
[09:00] <xsacha> i fresh installed edgy
[09:00] <MilhousePunkRock> !upgrade | fiyawerx
[09:00] <ubotu> fiyawerx: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[09:00] <Jucato> :P
[09:00] <xsacha> never had dapper
[09:01] <Zaire> umm out of curiosity does open suse have a sort of equiv to apt-get?
[09:01] <fiyawerx> thanks, MilhousePunkRock
[09:01] <Jucato> Zaire: YaST?
[09:01] <MilhousePunkRock> It's a new release, fiyawerx
[09:01] <Jucato> Zaire: or zmpsdfasdfasdf
[09:01] <Zaire> O_o
[09:01] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: maybe you could ask if they want to even upgrade to Edgy :)
[09:01] <abattoir> Jucato: ??
[09:01] <kamui> It seems since I upgraded to edgy, Im having TERRIBLE trouble with both my keyboard and mouse lagging.  My keyboard will randomly miss a key, or loop a keypress, and my mouses responsiveness is not stable
[09:01] <kamui> anyone have any ideas?
[09:01] <Jucato> I forgot the name of the new package manager for SUSE
[09:02] <fiyawerx> oh
[09:02] <fiyawerx> ok, so im still using dapper stuff, alright, i'll follow that
[09:02] <Jucato> kamui: yeah, call for the Chi no Ryu :)
[09:02] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato: I assume that a dist upgrade with a dapper sources list will take him to the latest dapper, won't it?
[09:02] <fiyawerx> lot of new stuff?
[09:02] <Zaire> one thing I never really liked the fact that with suse your privs are extremely limited
[09:02] <Zaire> you have to actually set them up so you can use the cdrom
[09:02] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: yes. Adept (and Synaptic) uses dist-upgrade by default in upgrading anyway
[09:03] <Zaire> well atleast I did anyway lol
[09:03] <MilhousePunkRock> Jucato, fiyawerx: Should be save and hassle-free so far...
[09:03] <Jucato> MilhousePunkRock: Edgy? can you vouchsafe for that? :P
[09:04] <MilhousePunkRock> fiyawerx: If you plan to upgrade to Edgy Eft, stick to the guide ubotu linked you to
[09:04] <fiyawerx> will do
[09:04] <fiyawerx> i may as well :)
[09:04] <fiyawerx> i thikn this was a fresh dapper install, from what i remember
[09:04] <Zaire> lol or just download the edgy distro lol
[09:04] <fiyawerx> other than having to mess around with options for my wifi card, which i dont remember anymore
[09:04] <fiyawerx> :-\
[09:04] <fiyawerx> might do that instead
[09:05] <fiyawerx> i like clean installs hehe
[09:05] <fiyawerx> wish i remmbered what i had to do with my network card
[09:05] <MilhousePunkRock> fiyawerx: My wifi was not changed during the upgrade
[09:05] <seishinbyou> Is there a limit on the filesize of an attached file sent with Kmail (just checking)
[09:05] <Zaire> well dunno for all but when I tried to update to edgy is always screwed up my x
[09:05] <Jucato> seishinbyou: depends on your e-mail service
[09:05] <seishinbyou> This is just in-house (same company, internal server)
[09:06] <seishinbyou> Some managers can *not* be reasoned with
[09:06] <fiyawerx> i remember i had a bunch of sources from easysource or whatever it was, too
[09:06] <fiyawerx> im gonna dl the fresh version i think
[09:06] <Jucato> seishinbyou: ah. guess it depends on their setup. I don't believe KMail has any limit
[09:07] <MilhousePunkRock> fiyawerx: I think you can perform an upgrade with the CD as well...
[09:07] <fiyawerx> guess i'll try the straight upgrade first, and see how it goes from there
[09:07] <Zaire> ubuntu/kubuntu should have an easy migration tool for upgrading to new distros lol
[09:07] <seishinbyou> Okay then, I'll try...but this is the most ridiculous mail I have ever sent
[09:07] <Jucato> Zaire: to new distros or new releases?
[09:07] <Zaire> new release like dapper to edgy
[09:08] <Zaire> oh and you may want to backup before you upgrade
[09:08] <seishinbyou> Fresh installs always worked better for me than upgrading
[09:08] <Jucato> Zaire: they're working on that for Feisty.
[09:08] <Zaire> yea nothing gets crossed that way
[09:09] <dimon08> If I wanna install minimal kde over my ubuntu, what package should I install?
[09:09] <dimon08> kde-base or what?
[09:09] <seishinbyou> You don't want kubuntu-desktop?
[09:09] <MilhousePunkRock> dimon08: I believe it's kde-desktop
[09:09] <Jucato> kde-core (kde-base might be too minimal)
[09:09] <Jucato> seishinbyou: you'd be surprised at how much kubuntu-desktop installs by default :)
[09:09] <jobless> how can i access windows shares in kubuntu?
[09:10] <Jucato> !samba | jobless
[09:10] <ubotu> jobless: samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[09:10] <seishinbyou> Jucato: I figured, though honestly disk space isn't an issue for me
[09:10] <dimon08> no, I wnat to try fresh kde installation because at the moment gnome looks MUCH more faster for me
[09:10] <seishinbyou> so I don't take note
[09:10] <MilhousePunkRock> dimon08: Depends on your needs though, if you want to run those beautiful KDE-"only" programs like Amarok or Kopete, you won't need the complete desktop, I assume...
[09:10] <jobless> ubotu: thanks i will have a look
[09:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks i will have a look - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:10] <Jucato> seishinbyou: probably not much about disk space as it is about having unneeded apcakges
[09:10] <dimon08> I run amarok at the moment:)
[09:10] <MilhousePunkRock> jobless: Ubotu is a bot...
[09:10] <Jucato> jobless: just a clue, ubotu is a bot :)
[09:11] <MilhousePunkRock> dimon08: So you must have some KDE stuff already
[09:11] <dimon08> yep
[09:11] <dimon08> I have
[09:11] <seishinbyou> Oops, Kmail crashed
[09:11] <seishinbyou> Let's try this again...
[09:11] <dimon08> but it isn't enough to choose kde at the login screen
[09:11] <Jucato> ??
[09:11] <Jucato> dimon08: you are running GNOME/Ubuntu?
[09:12] <dimon08> I think I just have kdelibs
[09:12] <dimon08> yes
[09:12] <dimon08> ubuntu, gnome
[09:12] <Jucato> dimon08: ah then you want kubuntu-desktop to install the default Kubuntu stuff
[09:12] <dimon08> and it seems to be much more fast than kde...
[09:12] <MilhousePunkRock> dimon08: That's becaue it's much less pretty... ;-)
[09:12] <dimon08> I don't want all that things from kubuntu-desktop I think
[09:13] <dimon08> I used kubuntu since 5.10 and made a fresh installation of ubuntu recently
[09:13] <MilhousePunkRock> dimon08: You can always go with the full package and remove what you don't like/need later
[09:13] <dimon08> so maybe kubuntu was so slow because I upgraded, not made fresh install
[09:13] <dimon08> so I want to try now..
[09:13] <seishinbyou> Crashed again...Okay, I'll try...Evolution
[09:14] <Jucato> hehe
[09:14] <vipercat> Jucato i have removed the au. from each line should i also remove the #
[09:14] <Jucato> vipercat: no need to
[09:16] <Kiongku> Jucato.. think dapper is better than edgy?
[09:16] <Jucato> Kiongku: depends on what you mean by "better"
[09:16] <Jucato> Dapper is certainly more stable
[09:16] <Kiongku> hahaha i mean by stabilty and functionality
[09:16] <Kiongku> hehe
[09:17] <Jucato> they're both quite functional. Edgy's features are new and bleeding/cutting edge though
[09:17] <Kiongku> lol for eg?
[09:17] <seishinbyou> Okay, Evolution looks like it is working, but it is going to be a while before this mail is done sending
[09:18] <Jucato> seishinbyou: in the meantime, you could try filing a KDE bug :)
[09:18] <seishinbyou> Okay, good idea
[09:18] <Kiongku> Jucato: what bleeding/cutting edje stuff edgy has :p
[09:18] <seishinbyou> * Kmail crashes when sending 4GB files
[09:18] <Kiongku> hahahaha
[09:19] <Kiongku> darn i will never be ever to upload a file 4GB
[09:19] <emonkey> lol who wants to send 4GB through email?
[09:19] <Jucato> seishinbyou does
[09:19] <emonkey> :)
[09:19] <fiyawerx> email? use um
[09:19] <fiyawerx> doh, i forget what its called
[09:19] <seishinbyou> Manager request.  He will not listen to reason
[09:20] <fiyawerx> its like penguin or something
[09:20] <seishinbyou> So okay, I'll do just what he says to show how ridiculous the whole thing is
[09:20] <seishinbyou> (It's a VMWare image, btw)
[09:21] <morghanphoenix> How do you set up a USB joystick?
[09:21] <jobless> ubotu: how can i save the fstab file? it says i need root privilages .. i am using kate
[09:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about how can i save the fstab file? it says i need root privilages .. i am using kate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:21] <jobless> how can i save the fstab file? it says i need root privilages .. i am using kate
[09:21] <fiyawerx> damn i cant remember the name of the software friend uses to send big files like that
[09:21] <morghanphoenix> kdesu kate
[09:22] <jobless> jucato: how can i save the fstab file?
[09:22] <Jucato> jobless: you have to launch Kate as root or right-click on the fstab file and choose Actions > edit as root
[09:22] <morghanphoenix> Told you
[09:22] <morghanphoenix> Launch kate with kdesu
[09:22] <jobless> how can i launch kate as root?
[09:22] <Kiongku> kdesu kate "filename"
[09:22] <Jucato> "kdesu kate"
[09:22] <morghanphoenix> Oh, nevermind
[09:23] <morghanphoenix> Any help on a usb gamepad.
[09:23] <Jucato> morghanphoenix: maybe he didn't notice. you've got to mention his name :P
[09:23] <Kiongku> morghanphoenix: frankly never thought linux as a playground OS
[09:23] <jobless> kiongku: thanks
[09:23] <jobless> jucato: thanks
[09:23] <vipercat> Jucato i have tried going through the update commands again and this time i got this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30594/
[09:23] <seishinbyou> Ah, a bug was already filed for large attachments...so, apparantely, if I had 40GB of RAM it would have sent all right
[09:23] <Jucato> lol
[09:23] <morghanphoenix> I like my games, all my emulators and vendetta online.
[09:23] <Kiongku> seishinbyou: OMG 40GB??? OF RAM!>
[09:24] <Kiongku> morghanphoenix: nice =)
[09:24] <seishinbyou> As listed here : http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=34212
[09:24] <morghanphoenix> Emulators are terrible on keyboard control though
[09:24] <Kiongku> morghanphoenix: haha i know what u mean..
[09:25] <Jucato> if anyone can help vipercat with his upgrade problem, please do so.thanks
[09:25] <Kiongku> keyboard should be renovated.. they need touch sensitivity for the keys XD
[09:25] <seishinbyou> At least Kubuntu support the Trance Vibrator...for what purpose, I'll never know
[09:25] <Kiongku> lol
[09:25] <seishinbyou> for what reason, I don't know
[09:26] <Kiongku> hmm i want MS on linux x_x
[09:27] <seishinbyou> wine?
[09:27] <fiyawerx> cool, downloading install cd now
[09:27] <seishinbyou> vmware?
[09:27] <Jucato> vmware
[09:27] <Kiongku> nah MS relies too much on directx
[09:27] <Kiongku> vmware not feasible right now since i have my win partition still active
[09:27] <seishinbyou> If you want to use Windows only for games, you are best off just keeping a small Windows partition
[09:27] <fiyawerx> is automatix still a decent way to run post-install?
[09:28] <Kiongku> just anoyed ic ant stay in linux while on MS XD
[09:28] <Jucato> !automatix | fiyawerx
[09:28] <ubotu> fiyawerx: automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[09:28] <seishinbyou> You can...vmware
[09:28] <Kiongku> seishinbyou: i know it
[09:28] <seishinbyou> or Virtual PC
[09:28] <fiyawerx> heh, guess not :)
[09:28] <Kiongku> hmm i'll think about it.. i have hdd space constraints..
[09:28] <fiyawerx> any other good post-install "todo's" then?
[09:29] <seishinbyou> On my wife's home PC, I have a VMWare session setup with Kubuntu so I can continue my work from home without having to leave Windows
[09:29] <mzi> hello
[09:29] <Kiongku> oh
[09:29] <morghanphoenix> what's the cli syntax for a device list?
[09:29] <mzi> I've upgraded from dapper and I got a problem w/ fonts. can ayone help
[09:29] <fiyawerx> is it really 3:30 est?
[09:29] <Jucato> morghanphoenix: lspci ? not sure
[09:30] <Jucato> fiyawerx: 3:30 am
[09:30] <fiyawerx> damn
[09:30] <fiyawerx> time flies
[09:30] <Jucato> seishinbyou: you might want to take a peak into cygwin if it's going to be a permanent thing
[09:30] <mzi> The problem is about fonts and X11. at installation, xfonts-75dpi package throws a /usr/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi does not exist or is not a directory.
[09:31] <morghanphoenix> See, this is my problem, it's plugged in but not showing up
[09:31] <morghanphoenix> lspci
[09:31] <Kiongku> got the driver o.O?
[09:32] <Kiongku> XD"
[09:32] <fiyawerx> anyone else have a problem with 1280x1024 lcd and the default fonts for everything hurting your eyes
[09:32] <fiyawerx> they seem kinda.. harsh
[09:32] <morghanphoenix> No idea what gamepad it is for a driver
[09:33] <jobless> jucato: i get an error when i type sudo mount -a it says .. it says that the mount point does not exist
[09:33] <jobless> jucato: what can this mean?
[09:33] <jobless> kiongku: can u help?
[09:34] <Kiongku> morghanphoenix: go research a bit the make
[09:34] <Kiongku> jobless: u made a mistake in fstab i guess
[09:34] <Kiongku> did u leave a space at the end?
[09:34] <Kiongku> an empty line
[09:35] <morghanphoenix> Where can I find a list of old gamepads to compare it to, it's not new enough for any of the sites I've found with logitech pads.
[09:35] <Kiongku> morghanphoenix: no idea... i never owned one so i dunt have any exp in it
[09:35] <Kiongku> gnomefreak: he said sudo mount -a
[09:35] <Kiongku> so mounting the devices in fstab
[09:36] <morghanphoenix> Yeah, it was a freebie, guess I shoulda know it'd be a pain.
[09:36] <Kiongku> lol
[09:36] <mzi> no one has the same problem about fonts?
[09:36] <Kiongku> the only one ever i had was a logitech joystick to enjoy freespace XD
[09:36] <Kiongku> mzi: i think ur prob is a common one
[09:36] <jobless> kiongku: i did leave a space now ..
[09:37] <Kiongku> mzi: go search in the kubuntu support for ur answer
[09:37] <morghanphoenix> I have a logitech, but for some reason it doesn't seem to like the usb one, I borrowed a game port one and it worked great.
[09:37] <intelikey> morghanphoenix that's not always/{or often} the case,  lots of 'freebees
[09:37] <mzi> Kiongku: ok thnx
[09:37] <intelikey> are just "out dated"...
[09:37] <intelikey> outdated != pain
[09:38] <Kiongku> mzi: sorry i turned around the whole prob by a clean install :) but probably tons ppl before had same prob as u
[09:38] <jobless> kiongku: heyyy .. i got it .. i misspelled smbfs as smbgs .. thank you ..
[09:38] <Kiongku> jobless: haha .. told u something might be wrong in ut fstab
[09:38] <morghanphoenix> It's a playstation style one. I'm searching the forums still, hopefully I'll find something. Seems I have really bad luck with internet searches.
[09:39] <jobless> kiongku: and u were right .. :)
[09:39] <Kiongku> intelikey: whats the command to remove a device not registered in fstab?
[09:39] <Kiongku> umount -?
[09:39] <mzi> Kiongku: :( I hope I don't have to do so...
[09:39] <intelikey> Kiongku "not registered in fstab" ???   you mean mtab ?
[09:39] <Kiongku> mzi: well u should have backed up before attempting and upgrade.. the upgrades are rarely smooth
[09:40] <Kiongku> intelikey: i mounted it by pmount dev label
[09:40] <intelikey> Kiongku umount label
[09:40] <mzi> Kiongku: I did. Thanks for the advices.
[09:40] <Kiongku> intelikey: hmm ok
[09:40] <mzi> bye
[09:40] <intelikey> or pumount
[09:40] <jobless> kiongku: should i mount each shared folder seperately or is there a way i can mount them all (i mean all the shared folders in a computer) ..?
[09:41] <Kiongku> jobless: that technical stuff u should ask *point to intelikey*
[09:41] <jobless> kiongku: i did not get that!
[09:42] <intelikey> Kiongku ah ah ah,,, but i don't know samba
[09:42] <intelikey> :(
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[09:42] <jobless> kiongku: now i got it!
[09:42] <Kiongku> jobless: what u mean shared? u mean in ur local network?
[09:43] <jobless> kiongku: i mean all the folders from a computer in the local network
[09:43] <nino> Kiongku: u wanna mount a remote share??
[09:43] <Kiongku> nino: no.. its that "<jobless> kiongku: should i mount each shared folder seperately or is there a way i can mount them all (i mean all the shared folders in a computer) ..?"
[09:44] <Kiongku> jobless: not much idea in that networking stuff.. i own only one pc.. i was never able to tinker with those thing..
[09:44] <jobless> kiongku: i mean can we write //servername only instead of //servername/sharename?
[09:44] <Kiongku> jobless: sorry i'm stuck this time :)
[09:45] <jobless> kiongku: thats fine .. i will try something
[09:45] <nino> who has got the the problem??
[09:45] <jobless> nino: could u help?
[09:45] <xsacha> jobless: \\servername
[09:45] <nino> jobless: yes explain to me
[09:46] <xsacha> if you mean samba shares, you can use smb://machinename or \\machinename
[09:46] <Kiongku> yay the experts are here *fades in background*
[09:46] <nino> jobless: you wanna mount a remote share (another computer) on your computer ??
[09:46] <jobless> nino: i need to mount all the shared folders from a computer at a time, but currently i am mounting each shared folder seperately using //servername/sharename .. but is //servername going to mount all the shares on the server at a time?
[09:47] <jobless> nino: on another computer
[09:47] <jobless> nino: remote computer i meant .. its on the local network though
[09:48] <nino> jobless: servername or the ip, and do you want to mount it on starup in fstab??
[09:48] <jobless> nino: i am following the article that kiongku pointed me to .. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[09:49] <Kiongku> did i o.o? *blinks*
[09:49] <nino> jobless: ok lemme know cause i've got it set up on my side aswell
[09:49] <jobless> kiongku: yeahh .. i am sure that was u! ohh ... it was the bot !! :))
[09:49] <Kiongku> hahaha
[09:49] <e1mer> jobless: make as many entries on ur fstab pointing to all the shares u want
[09:50] <jobless> e1mer: but cant i find what are the share available on the computer and mount them all at once?
[09:51] <jobless> e1mer: if the shared keep on changing  .. like a new shared folder being created .. then i want the system to recognize that and add it as well ..!
[09:51] <nino> jobless: smb://computer ip!!!!!!   Type in konqueror!!!
[09:51] <seishinbyou> Hmm, I'm not sure if Evolution hanged or not.  It doesn't like this large file either.  If only this client would listen to reason and let me burn it to DVD and give it to him...
[09:51] <jobless> e1mer: like windows does .. when u explore the local network ..
[09:51] <morghanphoenix> Ha, now I feel dumb, fresh install, forgot to put the joystick package back on.
[09:51] <morghanphoenix> lol
[09:51] <seishinbyou> Mr. "backups are a security risk"
[09:51] <e1mer> jobless: smbclient -L <host>
[09:54] <jobless> nino: that was cool .. dont i need to follow the steps presented in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently ? can i just type the command and work with the files?
[09:54] <jobless> nino: then what is the use of mounting them?
[09:54] <nino> jobless: yea just do that then!!
[09:54] <nino> jobless: I mount them only for backups
[09:54] <jobless> e1mer: i am getting the list of shared folders ..
[09:55] <jobless> nino: so, when mounted, the data gets copied into the local system?
[09:55] <nino> jobless: no only linked to the folder
[09:55] <e1mer> jobless: no, when mounted, you can access the smb shares like as they're on ur local system
[09:55] <Arafangion> jobless: Think of mounting it as making it "official", also only KDE apps (and possibly Gnome) can use the non-mounted stuff.
[09:56] <Arafangion> jobless: It also means that the OS can possibly be more agressive with cache'ing it, etc.
[09:56] <jobless> ohh!! i get it ..
[09:56] <jobless> thanks guys
[09:56] <intelikey> jobless did you also look at http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html  ???    might help understand samba.
[09:57] <jobless> intellikey: doing that now ..! :)
[09:57] <nino> jobless: smb://domain  will show all the pcs in the domain aswell!!
[09:58] <nino> jobless: like smb://workgroup will show the deafault windows domain!!
[09:58] <jobless> nino: i was just about to ask that !! (how to view all the pcs on the netowrk :) damn u know this stuff !!!
[09:59] <seishinbyou> Hrm, bug with subversion...time to file a report
[10:00] <nino> jobless: U havin fun?? :)
[10:00] <jobless> nino: i installed xsmbrowser now i think i dont need that .. how can i remove that package?
[10:00] <jobless> nino: u r right !! i aammmm!! :))
[10:01] <Zaire> wow I never realized how easy it was to setup a network connection from one linux box to the other lol
[10:01] <nino> jobless: go to apt packagemanager and request removal or purge | or at the konsol apt-get remove xmsbrowser
[10:02] <jobless> nino: ok
[10:02] <Zaire> that will deff make managing my webserver so much easier
[10:02] <nino> So who wants to know how to browes shares across the internet?? LoL
[10:02] <seishinbyou> Ooh, I get to file a new bug report. yay, or something
[10:03] <Zaire> Im learning that sort of stuff right now from ym O'Reilly php & mysql book lol
[10:03] <intelikey> !bug
[10:03] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[10:04] <seishinbyou> The Subversion page says I should ask over on #svn, so I'll do that first
[10:04] <seishinbyou> Subversion + Japanese charaters in branch title = *CRASH* *BANG* *CORRUPTION*
[10:06] <jobless> nino: how can i open the packetmanger?
[10:06] <nino> jobless: kmenu =>System => Adept
[10:07] <intelikey> seishinbyou each app or suite thereof  will have their own way/place to report bugs   but please go ahead and let the ubuntu people know alos.  the bug could already be known in the developement branch and yet not have been addressed in the release/distro end of things.
[10:08] <nino> jobless: find it?
[10:10] <jobless> nino: yes.. i was searching for xsmbrowser.. got it .. and just hit apply changes
[10:10] <jobless> nino: done!
[10:10] <nino> jobless: yep, request removal and apply
[10:10] <Jazon> kamusta ka Jucato :)
[10:10] <nino> jobless: cool
[10:10] <Jazon> (spelling?)
[10:10] <Jazon> hi everyone
[10:11] <intelikey> Jazon
[10:11] <jobless> nino: why i was not able to see xsmbrowser in add/remove programs?
[10:12] <jobless> nino: can that be done only in adept?
[10:12] <Jazon> wondering if anyone could help me solve an acpi issue with my laptop.  with dapper, it was great - closing the lid put it into hibernate... it was GREAT.  dapper wont.  also, issues with swap drive not working (related?)
[10:12] <nino> jobless: ad/remove is a simplified version
[10:12] <jobless> nino: ok ..
[10:12] <nino> jobless: it excludes stuff lik libraries etc
[10:13] <jobless> nino: hmm .. i got a lot to learn! :(
[10:13] <nino> jobless: just keep on using linux!!
[10:14] <jazzrocker> ok i can't get my font settings to stick. under GTK styles and settings i select use another font, click apply, then close and re-open system settings and lo-and behold it's back to "use my KDE fonts in GTK applications"
[10:14] <jobless> nino: how can i share the files on my linux system so that they can be available in windows?
[10:14] <nino> jobless: And these okes here will give u all the support u need, and write these thing down!!!
[10:15] <Jazon> another thing is that i am always getting this error in konsole whenever i try to start anything gui...X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[10:16] <jobless> yeahh .. i will .. though i think i can remeber :) i never got past using linux for simple stuff .. like running programs in c and java ..!
[10:16] <intelikey> jobless dpkg == debian package manager   is the application that installs and removes packages from the *buntu system,  apt aptitude synaptic adept 'add/remove packages' and if there be any other app that does such are all "frontend/backends'  to dpkg   thus while the enterface may differ greatly the basic operation is to call   dpkg <-switches> packagename.deb
[10:16] <cpk1> jobless: samba should be easy to use to share stuff with windows
[10:17] <jobless> nino: so i shud install samba on windows?
[10:17] <intelikey> !samba
[10:17] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[10:17] <cpk1> jobless: install samba on linux
[10:17] <jobless> intellikey: so wat they r doing is just issuing some commands when i click a button
 samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. ^
[10:18] <jobless> nino: i think i did ..
[10:18] <intelikey> jobless prezactly
[10:18] <cpk1> jobless: you need to configure samba on linux as well
[10:19] <alin_> hi
[10:19] <alin_> u all kubuntu lovers
[10:19] <jobless> cpk1: hmm .. like give permissions and stuff?!
[10:20] <nino_> damn i got disconnected!!
[10:20] <cpk1> jobless: read this article http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[10:20] <cpk1> jobless: that should help you get samba up and running in no time
[10:20] <jobless> cpk1: i installed samba-common is that enough?
[10:20] <jobless> cpk1: i will go through it ..
[10:21] <cpk1> jobless: that article is very easy to follow and you should get it working after that
[10:21] <jobless> hey when i click the link give here .. they r opening in konquerer .. but can i get them to opne in firefox by default?
[10:21] <jobless> cpk1: hey when i click the link give here .. they r opening in konquerer .. but can i get them to opne in firefox by default?
[10:22] <nino_> jobless: i need to install my modules for samba sharing (i dont share my linux stuff) but if you really get stuck we can try!!
[10:23] <jobless> nino_: i am going to try .. and will let u know if theres a problem .. and are u nino?
[10:23] <intelikey> samba-doc - Samba documentation ++  samba - a LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix  ++  smbfs - mount and umount commands for the smbfs   :)
[10:23] <nino_> jobless: yes i got disconnected
[10:24] <jobless> nino: ohhk
[10:26] <jobless> nino: hey when i click the link give here .. they r opening in konquerer .. but can i get them to opne in firefox by default?
[10:28] <nino_> jobless:I dont think firefox has smb support libraries installed, Konqueror is not your average browser!!
[10:28] <morbid88> hey guys. Can someone help me set up /etc/network/interfaces so that I don't have to manually connect to my network each time?
[10:28] <Zaire> does arin make any mistakes when it comes to doing a whois on an IP
[10:29] <jobless> nino_: i mean when i click on a http link can't i get it to open in firefox by default?
[10:29] <intelikey> nino_ jobless may be asking about the url's here in the irc channel...
[10:29] <intelikey> oh yeah see...
[10:29] <jobless> intellikey: yes i meant the urls
[10:30] <nino_> Zaire: check it against www.centralops.net
[10:30] <intelikey> jobless that's irc client specific
[10:30] <Zaire> Im curious to know cause I have a discrepency in my forums between the whois I did in cli on a members IP to arin.net's whois
[10:30] <morbid88> jobless: in the settings window there's a "use custom browser" option.
[10:30] <intelikey> jobless  as a general rule 'yes'
[10:31] <Zaire> one says UK like he's said and the other says rout point through amsterdam
[10:31] <nino_> jobless: oh u mean firefox is not the default browser
[10:31] <morbid88> I'm having troule adjusting my /etc/network/interfaces file to automatically connect to my WEP-enabled router. any ideas?
[10:31] <jobless> nino_: yes
[10:32] <jobless> morbid88: i don't see it!
[10:32] <morbid88> jobless: Go to Settings >> General settings.
[10:32] <morbid88> There's a box on the bottom half, Miscellaneous settings, with "Use custom browser"
[10:32] <intelikey> Zaire is anything "totally flawless" ?
[10:32] <morbid88> just tick the checkbox. It might already contain "firefox " in it.
[10:32] <jobless> morbit88: setting in koversation?
[10:33] <morbid88> jobless: sorry, yes. Konversation settings>> Behaviour >> General.
[10:33] <Zaire> yea but that kinda of discrepency and why would he need to route to go to a case modding forum
[10:33] <nino_> needs coffee lots of coffee :)
[10:33] <intelikey> Zaire what ip ?
[10:34] <jobless> theres firefox '%u' what does that %u mean ?
[10:34] <intelikey> let me see if i can duplicate the mismatch
[10:34] <Zaire> 88.106.98.195 is one of the IP's he's posted under
[10:34] <jobless> morbid88: theres firefox '%u' what does that %u mean ?
[10:34] <morbid88> that will send a command to firefox to open, where %u is replaced by the URL.
[10:34] <jobless> morbid88: ohh ok!
[10:34] <intelikey> Tiscali UK Limited
[10:35] <jobless> morbid88: yes that did it ..!
[10:35] <intelikey> Zaire and the other is ?
[10:35] <Zaire> yea thats what the cli whois shoed
[10:35] <Zaire> showed*
[10:35] <nino> i agree with intelikey Tiscali
[10:35] <Zaire> I used that same IP in CLI and on arin.net
[10:35] <morbid88> jobless: I think there's even a way to get it to open in a new tab, bt I can't remember the switches.
[10:35] <Zaire> 2 diff results
[10:36] <intelikey> hmmm
[10:36] <Zaire> one says UK and the other Says amsterdam
[10:37] <intelikey> Zaire two different sites/databases being quarried
[10:37] <intelikey> # whois blah   >>>> % This is the RIPE Whois query server #2.
[10:38] <Zaire> both are arin are they not and I just did a whois on both for my IP and they both check out
[10:39] <intelikey> what i'm saying is one database may be "newer" than the other.
[10:40] <Zaire> not looking that way to me....otherwise it should show the same like my IP did :S
[10:41] <elias_> are the nvidia 9629 dirvers available somewhere already as restricted-modules.deb?
[10:43] <morbid88> guys, I'm having problems with my /etc/network/interfaces file. It won't bring up my wi-fi on startup.
[10:43] <morbid88> I have to manually set it every time.
[10:44] <fdoving> morbid88: can you post the file to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?
[10:44] <morbid88> yeah, I'm doing that now.
[10:45] <morbid88> okay, this is my /etc/network/interfaces file, and the result of init.d on it.
[10:45] <morbid88> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30597/
[10:46] <morbid88> fdoving: I think it has to do with the fact that it tries to get a dhcp response before connecting to the network, no?
[10:46] <intelikey> zaire
[10:47] <fdoving> morbid88: hmm..
[10:47] <intelikey> -:- SignOff Zaire: #kubuntu (""night all"")
[10:47] <intelikey> ah krap.
[10:47] <morbid88> fdoving: hmmm?
[10:47] <fdoving> morbid88: what do you do to bring it up manually?
[10:48] <morbid88> fdoving: sudo iwconfig rausb0 essid NET_ID key s:WEP_KEY
[10:48] <morbid88> then I sudo dhcp -1 rausb0 to get an IP from the router.
[10:49] <intelikey> i got to the bottom of that quarry  anyway.    the arin.net search for the ip only points to the netblock being an ripe block  the cli whois searches the ripe database    if zaire would have looked a little closer he would have seen that.
[10:52] <fdoving> morbid88: the file looks OK, but you could try to add a 'pre-up /sbin/iwconfig rausb0 essid NET_ID key s:WEP_KEY' and then remove the two wireless-* lines.
[10:52] <morbid88> fdoving: it used to work fine before I had WEP running
[10:52] <morbid88> let me try that. I'll be back in a bit.
[10:53] <fdoving> morbid88: ah.. if you bring down the interface, and then use 'ifup rausb0' - then run 'iwconfig rausb0' - does it have the key?
[10:53] <morbid88> I don't know. I haven't tried that, I don't know how to use ifup directly.
[10:53] <intelikey> http://www.ripe.net/whois -vs- http://ws.arin.net/whois    searching same ip on both...    </dismissed quarry>
[10:54] <morbid88> fdoving: let me try it with pre-up first, though. brb.
[10:54] <fdoving> morbid88: 'ifdown rausb0' brings the wireless down. 'ifdown rausb0' brings it back up. as if you were rebooting.
[10:58] <morbid88> fdoving: didn't work.
[10:58] <morbid88> I think the pre-up is too premature -- the interface isn't active yet.
[10:59] <intelikey> why do things like nickserv/chanserv/memoserv always answer help with 13 messages one line each  why not all in one post so clients that auto ignore flood can actually use there help message
[10:59] <intelikey> all i ever get is  "-:- BitchX: Auto-ignoring *Serv for 10 minutes [NOTICE flood]  "
[11:01] <intelikey> and yes. i know how to reconfigure bx to not do that.  but it is set that way for a reason.....
[11:01] <bordi> uses ubuntu the /opt/ directory for special purposes ?
[11:02] <intelikey> bordi some things like a firefox upgrade might use it.  mine was usually epmty before i rm'd it.
[11:02] <intelikey> or actually "always" empty.
[11:03] <bordi> very good
[11:03] <bordi> i have a dual boot enviroment with kubuntu and another distro, which uses opt permanently. i will share the swap, boot and the opt partition.
[11:04] <intelikey> sounds like a plan
[11:04] <intelikey> bordi not /home ?
[11:04] <bordi> yes home too
[11:05] <fdoving> morbid88: i googled a little, and I see that some other people use 'pre-up ifconfig rausb0 down' and then 'pre-up ifconfig rausb0 up' directly after the 'iface rausb0 inet dhcp' line, in that order. down first, then up. and then continue with the first pre-up /sbin/iwconfig line..
[11:05] <bordi> and it seems to work perfectly
[11:05] <intelikey> ah detailed but non-exhostive lists.... :)
[11:06] <bordi> the installer downloads the additonal language files right now
[11:07] <bordi> has someone expierences with getting the kubuntu installer to work with an ati x700 gpu ?
[11:08] <fdoving> morbid88: did you follow this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/DWL-G122_(Rev_B) ?
[11:15] <intelikey> hehhe how oddity    how abnormality    how peculearity      how neet....    i had twm running.  and did a startkde    so now i kde running in twm windows     heh :)
[11:16] <intelikey> i kde/i have kde/
[11:17] <intelikey> i can iconify kicker   or kde it's self.
[11:17] <intelikey> hehhe
[11:21] <twenty2sixty> Hello! I just switched from xserver-xorg-driver-all to xserver-xorg-video-all (I needed xserver-xorg-video-ati) and now my system only comes to the point of showing me my mouse-cursor shortly before showing the kdm-login screen. Then the graphics get all twisted & the system shuts down. As root in recovery-mode all works fine - even kdm/kde/x ... what's gone wrong?
[11:23] <intelikey> & the system shuts down. ????    as in halt/reboot ???
[11:23] <grand> witam
[11:23] <twenty2sixty> intelikey: yes
[11:24] <freewill> is there any where i can find a torrent download for kkubuntu desktop cd i386?
[11:24] <freewill> *kubuntu
[11:27] <freewill> is it possable for some one to maybe host a torrent download for kubuntu-i386-desktop??
[11:28] <intelikey> twenty2sixty i can't possably imagen an x error rebooting the system.   unless you did something inside kde (like sudo shutdown -n )   that as soon as it starts trying to restore the session it restores the command.....       sujestion.   boot to single user mode. (As root in recovery-mode) and do; tar -czf backup-kde-settings.tgz /home/<your-username> && rm /home/<your-username>/.kde  && init 2
[11:29] <intelikey> twenty2sixty inturpret <your-username>  ^
[11:30] <intelikey> errr actually.
[11:30] <intelikey> tar -czf backup-kde-settings.tgz /home/<your-username>/.kde && rm /home/<your-username>/.kde
[11:30] <freewill> nwm, because the cd i downloaded is suposaly corupt and i don't have bandworth to redownload the whole thing but if someone hosts a torrent download for it it'll just download the corupted parts...
[11:30] <twenty2sixty> intelikey: what am i rm'ing there?
[11:31] <intelikey> personal configs for kde
[11:31] <intelikey> but backed up in the tar-ball first...
[11:32] <twenty2sixty> intelikey: If it is really the session-restore, couldn't I just set KDE to start with a fresh session instead of recreating the old one? I know how to that one... :-)
[11:32] <freewill> ... i'm just going to try to install the corupted cd....
[11:32] <intelikey> from where twenty2sixty ?
[11:33] <intelikey> yes you could.  but can you ?
[11:36] <twenty2sixty> intelikey: I could give it a shot ... What other options to I have? All the xserver-xorg-driver-XYZ packages are gone in my package-listings... so I don't really have a choice of going back to xserver-xorg-driver-ati. Unless I downgrade the system of course - and this I won't do. Might it be a problem with disabling Composite in xorg.conf? 'Cause I did this recently...
[11:37] <nino_> mmm hello nino
[11:38] <nino> hi nino_
[11:38] <morbid88> fdoving: sorry I didn't respond. I thought I'd closed Konversation, but I didn't realise it minimizes to the system tray... thanks for the tips, I'll look into them
[11:39] <nino_> nino: Kubuntu 6.06 lts??
[11:39] <nino> yip
[11:39] <nino_> nino: thnx
[11:40] <intelikey> twenty2sixty sorry i'm on dapper, don't know all your options on edgy.
[11:41] <intelikey> twenty2sixty other than loosing some customizations deleting ~/.kde  shouldn't hurt a thing.
[11:42] <intelikey> and the backup should make that pretty easy to restore.
[11:42] <twenty2sixty> intelikey: Ok, thanks nontheless! One last thing ... can you quickly tell me the reconfigure-command for X again? I want to get a new, clean xorg.conf...
[11:43] <daurnimator> hi all
[11:43] <intelikey> one could just rename the dir  but restoring is a 'little' more tricky if you do that.    mv /home/username/.kde /home/username/backup.kde
[11:43] <daurnimator> i need some help with a partition
[11:44] <intelikey> twenty2sixty yessir  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:44] <scheuri> daurnimator: shot...maybe someone can help
[11:44] <intelikey> might add -plow
[11:44] <psb154> FYI: I installed xubuntu-desktop on my (1ghz duron laptop) kubuntu dapper installation, to see if it performed any better than kde 3.5.5. I'm an not seeing ANY performance benefit when running xfce4. I have obviously switched back to KDE :-)
[11:45] <daurnimator> i have a drive with a bad partition table
[11:45] <twenty2sixty> intelikey: Thanks! Going through your helping tipps now step-by-step... wish me luck! ;-) Bye!
[11:45] <intelikey> twenty2sixty if you like redundantcy make the tarball and move the dir  :))))
[11:47] <scheuri> psb154: just asking...HOW did you measure performance?
[11:48] <intelikey> twenty2sixty tar -czf backup-kde-settings.tgz /home/<your-username>/.kde && mv /home/<your-username>/.kde /home/<your-username>/backup.kde  && init 2
[11:48] <intelikey> like that  ^  :)
[11:49] <psb154> scheuri: good question, not scientific or metric pure perception. I ran non-kde apps such as firefox and openoffice, which I use daily, oocalc and oowriter. Also switching between apps, cpu usage with top.
[11:50] <scheuri> psb154: well, so it was more or less sujectiv...:)
[11:50] <cpk1> intelikey: well I will keep that in mind if i need to tarball my kde settings =P
[11:51] <Tm_T> psb154: That is because KDE doesn't take that much cpu, it's only startup memory usage, and if you keep using KDE apps, the mem usage doesn't even grow that much anymore.
[11:52] <scheuri> intelikey: cool, thanks...:)...but what is this init 2 for?
[11:52] <Steven_M> hi all
[11:52] <psb154> scheuri, Tm_T, Ok but I was hoping for more. Fluxbox is percivably quicker on my humble laptop when it comes to navigating the desktop.
[11:53] <daurnimator> ok
[11:53] <daurnimator> so
[11:53] <daurnimator> how do i get the drive to mount?
[11:53] <Tm_T> psb154: Well, you can get your KDE lighter just by dropping all stuff you don't need.
[11:53] <scheuri> psb154: sure enough...I was just saying...:)....but linux is all about choice...:)
[11:54] <cpk1> the lightest thing to do is get rid of X
[11:54] <scheuri> ;)
[11:54] <psb154> Scheuri, It certainly is :-)
[11:54] <Steven_M> Please add this to the topic:
[11:54] <cpk1> that *might* free up some resources
[11:54] <Steven_M> If your're using Dapper you can fix the kopete icq problem by downloading a modified version of kopete here (http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kopete-fix/kopete-dapper/kopete_3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu2~dapper3_i386.deb)
[11:54] <Steven_M> If your're using Edgy you can fix the kopete icq problem by downloading a different modified version of kopete here (http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kopete-fix/kopete-edgy/kopete_3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu3_i386.deb)
[11:54] <Tm_T> Steven_M: Thanks.
[11:54] <daurnimator> ay1?
[11:54] <daurnimator> any1
[11:55] <Tm_T> !mount
[11:55] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[11:55] <scheuri> Steven_M: any chance that will hit either security or backport repos?
[11:55] <daurnimator> !gparted
[11:55] <ubotu> gparted is a GUI partitioning program, "apt-get install gparted", also available as a live cd http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[11:55] <daurnimator> uh
[11:55] <cpk1> daurnimator: use qparted
[11:55] <Steven_M> Tm_T: no probs
[11:55] <Tm_T> daurnimator: I recommend to use search in wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:55] <cpk1> qtparted i mean
[11:55] <daurnimator> i'm sort of desperate
[11:55] <psb154> Tm_T, can you give an example, I am not sure what stuff would be safe to switch off?
[11:55] <daurnimator> i need to get the data NOW
[11:56] <Steven_M> scheuri: not sure sorry
[11:56] <scheuri> Steven_M: thanks anyway...nice to know though!...:)
[11:56] <cpk1> daurnimator: partitioning isnt going to give you data
[11:56] <Tm_T> psb154: Well, for example, don't use icons in desktop, don't run "all-in-one-wonder" apps automatically, etc etc.
[11:57] <scheuri> daurnimator: is it a harddisk? floppy? CD-ROM? USB-HD?
[11:57] <daurnimator> i want to mount by drive offset
[11:57] <daurnimator> sata hdd
[11:57] <scheuri> installed in your PC?
[11:57] <daurnimator> yes
[11:58] <scheuri> does (k)ubuntu see this disk?
[11:58] <daurnimator> yes
[11:58] <Steven_M> scheuri: I only found out about it today.
[11:59] <scheuri> Steven_M: yes, sure...thanks for informing us! (that is what I meant by saying "nice to know though")...:)
[11:59] <scheuri> daurnimator: which disk is it? sda? sdb?
[11:59] <daurn> sorry
[11:59] <daurn> you say anyth8ing?
[11:59] <scheuri> daurn: which disk is it? sda? sdb?
[11:59] <daurn> sda
[12:00] <scheuri> daurn: how many partitions?
[12:00] <daurn> 1 i believe
[12:00] <scheuri> daurn: well, okay...you may check that out with "sudo fdisk /dev/sda"
[12:01] <scheuri> daurn: but be aware...that tool can destroy everything....be sure of what options you press
[12:01] <daurn> uh
[12:01] <daurn> what do i do with it
[12:02] <scheuri> daurnyou can list the partition table to find out how many partition it has
[12:02] <Steven_M> scheuri: You're welcome :)
[12:02] <scheuri> Steven_M: :)
[12:02] <daurn> what do i type?
[12:02] <daurn> i get a prompt of some sort
[12:02] <scheuri> daurn: "sudo fdisk /dev/sda" on the CLI
[12:02] <scheuri> !cli
[12:02] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:03] <daurn> lol
[12:03] <daurn> i'm not that bad
[12:03] <daurn> http://rafb.net/paste/results/cSLDPO70.html
 intelikey: cool, thanks...:)...but what is this init 2 for? <--- to switch out of single user mode into normal
[12:04] <scheuri> intelikey: ah, sorry...didnt get the first line then when you switched into single user
[12:04] <scheuri> daurn: sorry...didnt know....no offense, mate
[12:05] <intelikey> scheuri he what forced to boot to single because of a recursive reboot error
[12:05] <scheuri> daurn: option "p" should show tables
[12:05] <scheuri> intelikey: ah, okay...thanks
[12:06] <jobless> intellikey: how do i install yahoo messenger on kubuntu?
[12:06] <intelikey> scheuri ever use cfdisk ?
[12:06] <scheuri> intelikey: no...is it any good?
[12:06] <intelikey> jobless why not use gaim ?
[12:06] <jobless> intellikey: the yahoo page gives me three different files for installation ..
[12:06] <jobless> intellikey gaim?
[12:07] <intelikey> scheuri you should give it a look.  you might start recommending it over fdisk
[12:07] <scheuri> intelikey: you are insane...suggestion gaim in the kubuntu channel...;)
[12:07] <intelikey> for the nuby  anyway
[12:07] <scheuri> intelikey: is it universe? multiverse?
[12:07] <jobless> intellikey:  how do i install gaim?
[12:08] <jobless> scheuri: should we not recommend any products?
[12:08] <scheuri> jobless: I was joking
[12:08] <intelikey> jobless idk.  maybe ask someone that uses it.   ( so i don't get scolded anymore )
[12:08] <scheuri> ;)
[12:09] <intelikey> scheuri cfdisk is part of  util-linux   installed by default.
[12:10] <nino> nino turned Zombie; i need sleep
[12:10] <intelikey> !info gaim
[12:10] <ubotu> gaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta3.1-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 1311 kB, installed size 3712 kB
[12:10] <jobless> intellikey: i used adept and installed gaim.. shud i install gaim-data too?!
[12:10] <intelikey> jobless prolly
[12:10] <scheuri> jobless: if it is not a dependency it is not necessary...so...I dont know
[12:10] <daurn> scheuri: uh
[12:11] <daurn> for some reason
[12:11] <daurn> i can't paste into irc anymore
[12:11] <jobless> intellikey scheuri .. ok
[12:11] <scheuri> daurn: IRC is not for pasting...that is why
[12:11] <scheuri> !pastebin
[12:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:11] <daurn> i mean the pastbin url
[12:11] <scheuri> oh
[12:11] <scheuri> sorry
[12:11] <intelikey> scheuri most of the <name>-data  packages enhance and extend the base packages functionality
[12:11] <adwait> hi, could somebody plz do me a favour and check adwait.hopto.org
[12:11] <scheuri> never jump to conclusions...;)
[12:11] <adwait> does the applet load?
[12:12] <scheuri> intelikey: thanks for info
[12:12] <daurn> arg, i hate typing: http://rafb.net/paste/results/edVRJQ44.html
[12:12] <jobless> intellikey scheuri: does installing a package install all the dependent packages too (automatically)?! - silly question?
[12:13] <adwait> jobless: ye
[12:13] <adwait> *yes
[12:13] <intelikey> yes and yes jobless
[12:13] <scheuri> jobless: yes it does...or should...and I never had troubles with it so far (
[12:13] <intelikey> :)
[12:13] <scheuri> hehhe
[12:13] <scheuri> ;)
[12:13] <jobless> intellikey, am i killing you with questions? :(
[12:14] <adwait> hmm nobody........i realise this is not the place, but still...am trying to get mysql to run on ubuntu so figured i'd try here.......
[12:14] <intelikey> no
[12:14] <jobless> intellikey: :))
[12:14] <scheuri> jobless: you MIGHT run into troubles if you are installing too many software using dpkg and its .deb-file without taking proper care of dependencies
[12:14] <scheuri> jobless: but you are not doing so...so...there is no problem...:)
[12:14] <jobless> scheuri: wat care shud i take?
[12:15] <scheuri> jobless: never mind...:)...as long as you are using adept, synaptic or aptitude on CLI
[12:15] <adwait> jobless: not use the force option...for dpkg
[12:15] <intelikey> jobless the basic reason for apt is to extend dpkg( = the debian package manager) so that it can/will automatically fetch and install the dependancies.  adept is basically a gui frontend for apt
[12:16] <scheuri> I could not have said it better...;)
[12:16] <jobless> scheuri adwait intellikey .. thanks for the suggestions
[12:17] <scheuri> welcome
[12:17] <scheuri> jobless: there are many other IM-clients out there...licq, amsn and stuff...
[12:17] <intelikey> !info amsn
[12:17] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[12:18] <intelikey> !info licq
[12:18] <ubotu> licq: ICQ client (base files). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.3.2-6 (edgy), package size 614 kB, installed size 1908 kB
[12:18] <scheuri> afaik amsn comes with cam-support (if your cam works that is)
[12:18] <intelikey> !gaim
[12:18] <ubotu> Instant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.
[12:18] <intelikey> !kopete
[12:18] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 6825 kB, installed size 18932 kB
[12:19] <intelikey> !botsnack
[12:19] <ubotu> Yum!
[12:19] <jobless> scheuri intellikey thanks for the info ..
[12:20] <scheuri> hehhe
[12:20] <scheuri> I love that bot
[12:20] <scheuri> well...in a common sense...that is
[12:20] <jobless> scheuri intellikey cant i install the deb package given in yahoo website? the problem is i have different profiles for different friends and i am not able to use them in gaim
[12:20] <jobless> !botsnack
[12:20] <ubotu> Yum!
[12:20] <jobless> haha
[12:21] <jobless> !yahoo
[12:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about yahoo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:21] <scheuri> jobless: are we talking ICQ or MSN only?
[12:21] <jobless> scheuri i am talking abt yahoo
[12:21] <scheuri> jobless: or do you need more than one of these protocols at once?
[12:21] <scheuri> sorry...okay
[12:21] <scheuri> jobless: yes of course you may download the .deb and install it...
[12:22] <intelikey> jobless you can.  BUT every time you go outside the "supported" repositories you invite dependancy/upgrade issues.
[12:22] <intelikey> !repos
[12:22] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:22] <intelikey> !dist-stats
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dist-stats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <jobless> scheuri: yahoo allows different profiles from the same main id .. i am unable to use them in gaim .. so i think i shud try yahoos .deb file
[12:23] <scheuri> jobless: if yahoo makes a good job the .deb will check for all necessary dependencies...and you may settle those troubles...
[12:23] <jobless> intellikey: yahoo allows different profiles from the same main id .. i am unable to use them in gaim .. so i think i shud try yahoos .deb file
[12:23] <scheuri> jobless: dl it, open the CLI, install it...and see what happens...:)
[12:23] <jobless> inellikey scheuri  can i backup the system !! like a restore point in windows? so that if there is a problem i can roll it back?
[12:24] <jobless> !cli
[12:24] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[12:24] <intelikey> like i said.   no "reason" not too,  but know what chain of events it "might" start.
[12:24] <daurn> SO
[12:24] <daurn> scheuri: what do i do?
[12:24] <scheuri> daurn: so, how many partition?
[12:24] <daurn> ?
[12:25] <scheuri> daurn: did you use fdisk?
[12:25] <daurn> yes
[12:25] <daurn> see:
[12:25] <Ingmar> which nvidia driver do i need to get aiglx + beryl working in edgy ?
[12:25] <daurn> "arg, i hate typing: http://rafb.net/paste/results/edVRJQ44.html"
[12:26] <scheuri> daurn: while in fdisk of hda press "p" for "printing partition table"...and...please use my name in your sentences so the text is highlighted to me...can not miss it that easily
[12:26] <intelikey> scheuri case in point.   good argument for cfdisk.
[12:26] <scheuri> intelikey: well, I just tried it...could not open my disk for some reason....oh wait
[12:27] <intelikey> !root
[12:27] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:27] <scheuri> intelikey: I am just stupid
[12:27] <daurn> scheuri: http://rafb.net/paste/results/y61jia69.html
[12:27] <scheuri> intelikey: forgot the sudo....will never ever get used to that...
[12:27] <psb154> lol
[12:27] <scheuri> uh
[12:27] <psb154> lol
[12:27] <scheuri> daurn: that looks not that good...there is NO partition mentioned
[12:28] <scheuri> daurn: try "sudo cfdisk /dev/sda"
[12:28] <daurn> scheuri: i already said i think the partition table is gone
[12:28] <freewill> i just installed edgy how do i get the 3d-desktop thingy for it?
[12:28] <scheuri> daurn: ah, okay...arrrr....sorry...did not get that...google "repair partition table linux"?
[12:28] <intelikey> daurn what is that ?   an scsi disk   external usb disk  or   usb flash stick ???
[12:29] <scheuri> intelikey: internal sata hdd
[12:29] <intelikey> hosed partition table ?
[12:29] <scheuri> looks like
[12:29] <daurn> scheuri: i just want to do a raw read of the disk
[12:29] <intelikey> testdisk
[12:29] <daurn> forget partitions
[12:29] <intelikey> cat /dev/sda
[12:30] <intelikey> how raw do you want ?
[12:30] <scheuri> heh
[12:30] <daurn> i want to mount it
[12:30] <daurn> fogetting the partition table
[12:30] <daurn> its ntfs
[12:30] <scheuri> ouch and ouch
[12:30] <intelikey> have to identify an fs to mount it.
[12:30] <intelikey> again testdisk
[12:30] <scheuri> I dont think you may "forget partitions" when mounting
[12:30] <intelikey> !testdisk
[12:30] <ubotu> testdisk: Partition scanner and disk recovery tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 6.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 459 kB, installed size 1232 kB
[12:30] <daurn> sectors 63-390716862
[12:31] <jobless> intellikey: is there a way i can create a restore point kinda thing in kubuntu?
[12:31] <kidddddddddddddd> please someone help me with xawtv :S i get error when i start it -> X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode
[12:31] <intelikey> jobless define "restore point kinda thing"
[12:32] <scheuri> intelikey: shadow thingies in windows...you know...that allows you to jump back in time to save your windows...:)
[12:32] <psb154> kid, are you using a webcam
[12:32] <intelikey> scheuri is that what he wants ?
[12:33] <scheuri> intelikey: if I am correct...yes
[12:33] <jobless> inellikey: we have restore point in windows when we want to bring back the system into the earlier state! so before i install a program, i can create a restore point and if there is a problem i can get back the previous setting ..!
[12:33] <psb154> kid, you could try: xawtv -nodga -noxv
[12:34] <nickay> hi to all
[12:34] <jobless> intellikey scheuri yes thats it!
[12:34] <scheuri> hi nickay
[12:34] <intelikey> jobless make tarballs  and/or use scp to make remote backups
[12:34] <nino> my firefox crashes when i try to save a bookmark or extention :( Anyone know why??
[12:34] <jobless> intellikey tarballs of which folders?
[12:34] <scheuri> jobless: in other words...we are not awayre of such a thing...backing up your /home /etc should be fine
[12:34] <intelikey> jobless you can also search the package database,  there are other backup tools.
[12:34] <scheuri> jobless: in other words...we are not awayre of such a thing...backing up your /home and /etc should be fine
[12:35] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[12:35] <kidddddddddddddd> psb154 does not work :S  but i get many out puts about no such file or diroctroy
[12:35] <kidddddddddddddd> you want me to paste on website?
[12:35] <kidddddddddddddd> psb154 i can do that
[12:35] <intelikey> jobless probably ~/.kde   seeing that it is the default desktop for kubuntu  :)
[12:35] <psb154> kid, ok
[12:35] <nickay> I have a ubuntu box without any desktop enviroment. There is any way to control remote the box? Can i do it with VCN ? Thanks
[12:35] <khirr> usr/lib/libkhtml.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9KLineEdit13focusOutEventEP11QFocusEvent
[12:35] <scheuri> jobless: but if you want to do that because of that yahoo.thing install...I do not think its necessary
[12:36] <jobless> intellikey hmm ..
[12:36] <nino> nickay: ssh
[12:36] <scheuri> !ssh
[12:36] <ubotu> ssh is the Secure SHell protocol (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto). Putty is a nice SSH client for Windows, which can be found at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[12:36] <nino> nickay: no desktop enviroment no vnc!!
[12:36] <intelikey> jobless tar is vary flexable.   "man tar "   you can backup incrementally as well as selecting multiple paths and paths to omit.
[12:36] <jobless> yeahh its in part because of yahoo install scheuri but also in the future if i want to mess up with the os!! :)
[12:36] <scheuri> jobless: sure enough...:)
[12:37] <nickay> nino: You mean via tellnet?
[12:37] <intelikey> jobless ah system backups.  again tar is good but  dd might be even better for a full partition snapshot.
[12:38] <MidMark> anyone has problem mounting dvd with one session and not closed the entire dvd?
[12:38] <jobless> intellikey shud i backup ~/.kde? or /home and /etc?
[12:38] <the-KID> psb154 here you go http://pastebin.com/819632
[12:38] <Bubba_Gump> which better? koffice, or openoffice?
[12:39] <Steven_M> bye all
[12:39] <nino> nickay: no its call secure shell its another protocol (like telnet) but you have to enable it on that box
[12:39] <Bubba_Gump> cya steve
[12:39] <psb154> the-KID, looking
[12:39] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[12:39] <nickay> nino: Thanks for your help. I will check it
[12:39] <khirr> someone have a good repository list?
[12:39] <nino> nickay: read this  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[12:40] <gnomefreak> khirr: for what?
[12:40] <khirr> kmess, opera, jre, something as them
[12:40] <khirr> soomething necesary
[12:40] <khirr> maybe a source list..
[12:41] <gnomefreak> !easysource | khirr
[12:41] <ubotu> khirr: source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[12:41] <intelikey> jobless depends on how extensive you want the restore to be and the amount of free disk space to play with.   per example; if one has sufficent space to store his full root partition on a storage partition  dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/media/storage/backup-of-rootfs.img     would backup the entire partition hda1
[12:41] <khirr> my conqueror doesnt wanna load
[12:41] <daurn> scheuri, intelikey: what do i do?
[12:41] <khirr> usr/lib/libkhtml.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9KLineEdit13focusOutEventEP11QFocusEvent
[12:41] <Bubba_Gump> khirr: copy and paste the addy :)
[12:41] <intelikey> daurn testdisk
[12:42] <khirr> i've done..but show this error
[12:42] <khirr> usr/lib/libkhtml.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9KLineEdit13focusOutEventEP11QFocusEvent
[12:42] <daurn> i don't care bout the partitions...
[12:42] <nino> jobless: you are going to have nightmares about Linux !! :)
[12:42] <daurn> i just want to mount a filesystem within a certain sector range
[12:42] <intelikey> daurn what do you care about ?
[12:42] <daurn> i just want to get the data off
[12:43] <intelikey> so use testdisk then mount the partition.
[12:43] <Bubba_Gump> khirr: are you breezy, dapper or edgy?
[12:43] <khirr> dapper
[12:43] <Bubba_Gump> what architecture?
[12:43] <khirr> 32 bits...
[12:43] <eilker> !web server
[12:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about web server - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:43] <intelikey> if you know the sector range exactly! then dd it to a file and mount it as a loopback device duarn
[12:44] <daurn> i do
[12:44] <daurn> whats dd?
[12:44] <jobless> nino am i going to?? really?!!
[12:44] <khirr> i've reemplaced my source list...installed kmess and other soft...and now..there is this error
[12:44] <intelikey> but i don't think you will hit it that closely....
[12:44] <intelikey> man dd
[12:44] <MidMark> Bubba_Gump: koffice is a lot faster than openoffice in kubuntu, but I continue to prefer openoffice
[12:44] <Bubba_Gump> khirr: which country?
[12:45] <khirr> Peru
[12:45] <jobless> !dd
[12:45] <Bubba_Gump> khirr: i'm filling out the form :)
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:45] <nino> jobless: lol hey you dont have to learn everything today!! Looks like you are on a mission!!
[12:45] <Bubba_Gump> k
[12:45] <khirr> wahat could i do...
[12:45] <Bubba_Gump> khirr: what would be the two letter code for Peru
[12:45] <intelikey> duarn you ask me what you should do to save your data.  i told you  use testdisk and then mount the partition.  but you don't care for that advice so when you cant get it some other way don't blame me.
[12:45] <khirr> uhmm
[12:45] <khirr> well phone code?
[12:46] <eilker> hi to all, how can i use my kubuntu as a web server ? , lamp server is already installed, i have a simple web site, in www folder, how can my friends see this site, as http://myip/??
[12:46] <jobless> i dont know why i gave up using red hat previously!! maybe its becaue .. i did not have this kind of help ninio .. and i did not know where to ask for it ..! :)
[12:46] <jobless> !kubuntu
[12:46] <intelikey> and if you try testdisk and it wont rebuild the partition table   don't blame me for that either.
[12:46] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. For more info see http://kubuntu.org  -  For support: #kubuntu  -  To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[12:47] <nino> jobless: its  cool man as long as you enjoy it :)
[12:47] <Bubba_Gump> khirr: UK = united kindom (where i'm from :))
[12:47] <khirr> PE
[12:47] <khirr> xD
[12:47] <khirr> Peru = PE
[12:47] <jobless> i dont have much else to do nino ..
[12:47] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[12:47] <scheuri> eilker: do you have a router?
[12:48] <eilker> scheuri: yes i have router
[12:48] <tachyon> anyone here know how to do a bad block scan on your Hard Drive?
[12:48] <khirr> i cant run ...adept...
[12:48] <Bubba_Gump> khirr: look in the pastebin in a few seconds
[12:48] <khirr> i goona restart
[12:48] <scheuri> eilker: you MAY try to get a dyndns-account, set it up, open up your router (port 80)....
[12:48] <khirr> pastebin?
[12:48] <intelikey> tachyon yes
[12:48] <khirr> i gona restart
[12:48] <khirr> brb
[12:48] <abattoir> khirr: wait
[12:48] <khirr> ?
[12:48] <khirr> wait?
[12:48] <khirr> ok
[12:48] <abattoir> khirr: you don't need to restart if adept doesn't load
[12:48] <tachyon> intelikey: is there some software i have already?
[12:48] <khirr> so?
[12:49] <Bubba_Gump> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30609/
[12:49] <intelikey> tachyon yes   badblocks
[12:49] <abattoir> khirr: what does adept say? database is locked?
[12:49] <khirr> i cant load any web page
[12:49] <Bubba_Gump> rofl
[12:49] <eilker> scheuri: thanks let me try for it, from router settings
[12:49] <Bubba_Gump> i remember now :D
[12:49] <abattoir> khirr: that pretty much has nothing to do w/ adept
[12:49] <nino> anybody running firefox 2 and is it stable?
[12:49] <tachyon> intelikey: where does it live?
[12:50] <khirr> uhmm, but is adept doesnt load, and cant open conqueror, how can i try with other browser
[12:50] <niels__> Adept is saying I cannot install packages because another process is blocking the database. How can I fix that?
[12:50] <intelikey> tachyon you can  sudo mount -o remount,ro /   and anyother partition/fs... then   sudo badblocks /dev/hda (assuming hda of course)
[12:50] <abattoir> khirr: what does konqueror say? unable to load the page?
[12:50] <jobless> i started using it today nino .. :)
[12:50] <khirr> no
[12:50] <khirr> doesnt open
[12:50] <abattoir> !adept crash fix | niels__
[12:50] <ubotu> niels__: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[12:50] <intelikey> which badblocks
[12:50] <khirr> usr/lib/libkhtml.so.4: undefined symbol: _ZN9KLineEdit13focusOutEventEP11QFocusEvent
[12:50] <intelikey>  /sbin/badblocks
[12:50] <nino> jobless: no crashes yet?
[12:51] <abattoir> khirr: hmm, ok restart :P
[12:51] <niels__> ubotu: Ok, I will. thanks.
[12:51] <jobless> nope .. nino
[12:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Ok, I will. thanks. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:51] <tachyon> intelikey: what's  remount,ro ?
[12:51] <khirr> ok, i'll do it
[12:51] <intelikey> tachyon ro=read only
[12:51] <abattoir> niels__: ubotu is a bot, a computer program
[12:51] <tachyon> hmmm
[12:51] <jobless> nino .. and this is the first time i am using firefox ..!
[12:51] <jobless> !firefox
[12:51] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[12:52] <Bubba_Gump> firefox is a good browser
[12:52] <niels__> abattoir: Arrghh... not again >/(
[12:52] <intelikey> tachyon if you actually suspect errors  prolly better to boot from a live cd and badblocks your hd
[12:52] <nino> jobless: lol thx!!!!!!!!
[12:53] <intelikey> tachyon always a good idea to   man badblocks(or any new command)  before using it.
[12:53] <niels__> abattoir: This is the second time in my life, I've thanked a bot.
[12:53] <abattoir> niels__: it happens... now you know :)
[12:53] <tachyon> as usual the linux tools are overcomplicated
[12:54] <intelikey> !botsnack | niels
[12:54] <ubotu> niels: Yum!
[12:54] <jobless> abattoir: how can i know which are the bots on this channel?
[12:54] <abattoir> jobless: afaik only ubotu
[12:54] <Hobbsee> abattoir: and Ubugtu
[12:54] <abattoir> jobless: and ubuntulog, but that doesn't respond to suers
[12:54] <abattoir> Hobbsee: ubugtu is here?
[12:55] <abattoir> Hobbsee: oh, didn't notice
[12:55] <Hobbsee> abattoir: yep
[12:55] <Hobbsee> according to my nick completion
[12:55] <scheuri> I am bot too, gimme snacks! NOW!
[12:55] <abattoir> Hobbsee: i guess bug tracking is disabled though ;)
[12:55] <tachyon> mostly when i read man pages i understand LESS as I read
[12:55] <abattoir> malone bug 1
[12:55] <khirr> You will not be able to change your system settings in any way (install, remove or upgrade software), because another process is using the packaging system database (probably some other Adept application or apt-get or aptitude). Please close the other application before using this one.
[12:55] <jobless> scheuri !scheurisnack !!
[12:55] <scheuri> Yummy!
[12:55] <intelikey> !botsnack | scheuri
[12:55] <ubotu> scheuri: Yum!
[12:55] <jobless> haha
[12:55] <Hobbsee> @bugtracker
[12:55] <scheuri> heh
[12:55] <khirr> all is ok now :D
[12:55] <khirr> yeah :D
[12:56] <jobless> intellikey .. that was better .. a pipe ..:))
[12:56] <Hobbsee> debian bug 3221
[12:56] <khirr> where can i download JRE?
[12:56] <intelikey> !jre
[12:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:56] <intelikey> !java
[12:56] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:56] <abattoir> !java
[12:56] <intelikey> :)
[12:57] <abattoir> :)
[12:57] <Hobbsee> debian 65889
[12:57] <Hobbsee> hmm
[12:57] <khirr> uhmm
[12:58] <intelikey> abattoir ever seen anyone mv /usr/*  /    del /usr and make a symlink usr to /
[12:58] <khirr> cant joind...
[12:58] <intelikey> ?
[12:58] <abattoir> intelikey: no
[12:58] <intelikey> abattoir what all will it hose ?
[12:58] <abattoir> intelikey: i don't know, haven't tried it yet :P
[12:58] <intelikey> prolly lots on update and/or removeal of  blah ?
[12:59] <abattoir> intelikey: wanna see what it does and get back to me? ;)
[12:59] <Hobbsee> @help
[12:59] <intelikey> lol  ok
[12:59] <abattoir> @time UTC
[12:59] <Ubugtu> Current time in Etc/UTC: November 08 2006, 11:59:23
[12:59] <alexicon> hey all
[12:59] <alexicon> whats this error mean?>
[12:59] <alexicon> install -m 755 bubblemon /usr/local/bin
[12:59] <alexicon> install: cannot stat `bubblemon': No such file or directory
[12:59] <abattoir> Hobbsee: i guess that's all it does here :(
[12:59] <khirr> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java --> cant load
[12:59] <Hobbsee> abattoir: it used to do more, i believe
[01:00] <scheuri> help.ubuntu.com is down
[01:00] <honest> is there an issue with gedit in 6.10?
[01:00] <abattoir> khirr: here too
[01:00] <jobless> abattoir is there a way in which i can power off the bluetooth on my laptop?
[01:00] <abattoir> honest: not sure, try asking at #ubuntu
[01:00] <abattoir> jobless: you mean the hardware?
[01:00] <honest> abattoir: but i'm running kubuntu
[01:00] <intelikey> alexicon i'd say your symlike is dangeling
[01:00] <jobless> yes the bluetooth hardware
[01:00] <jobless> the light keeps on blinking abattoir
[01:01] <alexicon> symlink to what though
[01:01] <abattoir> honest: then try kate
[01:01] <Hobbsee> jobless: usually in the bios
[01:01] <alexicon> in the makefile?
[01:01] <honest> it's a command though
[01:01] <intelikey> alexicon without the postinst/rm script i'd have no clue.
[01:01] <jobless> no .. windows had the option like poweroff under bluetooth program!
[01:01] <jobless> abattoir
[01:01] <alexicon> kk
[01:01] <abattoir> jobless: one sec
[01:02] <abattoir> honest: yes, ubuntu guides refer to gedit, kate is the kubuntu equivalent
[01:02] <honest> abattoir: ahh ok
[01:02] <intelikey> alexicon the scripts are in /var/lib/dpkg/info/   don't edit unless you know what you are doing.  that's part of dpkg's stuff you can break dpkg right there if you play around.
[01:03] <khirr> where can i download jre?
[01:03] <alexicon> im just installing a small applet from source
[01:03] <intelikey> alexicon ah source
[01:03] <abattoir> khirr: there is a version availabe in the repos, or you could get it from sun's website
[01:03] <abattoir> khirr: try getting a cache of that link
[01:03] <intelikey> then the makefile should tell you
[01:03] <alexicon> yah
[01:03] <scheuri> khirr: there is jre right there...:)
[01:03] <intelikey> alexicon or maybe even the configure
[01:04] <alexicon>     install $(INSTALL) bubblemon $(PREFIX)/bin
[01:04] <scheuri> khirr: either using adept or synaptic or the CLI using the command "sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre"
[01:04] <alexicon> thats the line i guess, $(INSTALL) is just -m 755
[01:04] <alexicon> prefix is /usr/local
[01:04] <khirr> i'll try
[01:05] <intelikey> alexicon prefix could be wrong  try usr/
[01:05] <abattoir> jobless: you don't have a hardware switch for turning it off?
[01:05] <jobless> !samba
[01:05] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:05] <khirr> dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:05] <jobless> no abattoir
[01:05] <scheuri> khirr: do you have anything open such as adept or so?
[01:05] <jobless> !swat
[01:05] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:05] <alexicon> nah if i change the prefix its the same error
[01:06] <khirr> open, but not installing
[01:06] <alexicon> install: cannot stat `bubblemon': No such file or directory
[01:06] <scheuri> khirr: and you just tried to install jre with that open adept?
[01:06] <khirr> open...but no installing nothing
[01:06] <scheuri> khirr: close it
[01:07] <dobo> i have managed it to install kubuntu dapper and now i need to call a programme that updates my /etc/modutils.d/* firectory
[01:07] <khirr> ok
[01:07] <scheuri> khirr: open a terminal
[01:07] <scheuri> !CLI
[01:07] <alexicon> even if i touch /usr/local/bin/bubblemon it still fails
[01:07] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[01:07] <khirr> ok
[01:07] <intelikey> alexicon hehhe i think i see....    apt-cache search bubblemon >>> bubblemon - Bubbling Load Monitoring GNOME Applet
[01:07] <scheuri> khirr: type "sudo aptitude update"
[01:07] <alexicon> yeah but i dont want the gnome one
[01:07] <alexicon> i am in kubuntu eh ;)
[01:07] <intelikey> try installing that maybe.
[01:07] <alexicon> just want the old one that i had in fvwm...
[01:07] <dobo> how can i update modules in dapper ?
[01:07] <alexicon> none of those gtk bindings for a docapp...
[01:07] <abattoir> jobless: try 'sudo hciconfig hci0 down'
[01:07] <niels__> !adept crash | niels
[01:07] <alexicon> i got that installed intelikey
[01:07] <khirr> is working...
[01:07] <ubotu> adept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[01:08] <niels__> !adept crash | niels__
[01:08] <abattoir> !adept crash fix | niels__
[01:08] <ubotu> niels__: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[01:08] <alexicon> but theres no bubblemon package
[01:08] <alexicon> its some gnome-app
[01:08] <alexicon> that i think i can only get at if i have a gnome panel running
[01:08] <jobless> ok abattoir
[01:08] <abattoir> jobless: works?
[01:09] <jaca> zna moze ktos jakis polski server dla uzytkownikow ubuntu
[01:09] <khirr> how can i change my root pass since konsole
[01:09] <nino> jobless: here is some good info http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/index.php
[01:09] <jobless> abattoir: it does ..
[01:09] <abattoir> ok
[01:09] <jobless> now do i type up instead of down to get it back? abattoir?
[01:10] <khirr> how can i change my root pass since konsole
[01:10] <Jazon> anytime i call an X app from console, i get this error... X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 <[01:10] <abattoir> jobless: yes :)
[01:10] <jaca> czy ktos tu w ogole gada po polsku
[01:10] <jobless> abattoir: works like a charm ..! :)
[01:10] <abattoir> khirr: root password or your password?
[01:10] <alexicon> intelikey: look at the packge info for bubblemon... theres no bin???
[01:10] <khirr> root
[01:10] <abattoir> jobless: nice :)
[01:10] <alexicon> only installed docs
[01:10] <abattoir> khirr: did you create a root account(enable it, actually) ?
[01:10] <jaca> i am must going now
[01:10] <khirr> i have this acount....but i wanna change my root pass
[01:11] <khirr> i dont remeber the command
[01:11] <scheuri> !root
[01:11] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[01:11] <abattoir> khirr: ubuntu comes w/ root disabled... so did you enable it?
[01:11] <khirr> uhmm
[01:11] <khirr> since konsole?
[01:11] <scheuri> make proper sentences please
[01:11] <abattoir> khirr: you mean the password you enter when you type sudo command?
[01:11] <intelikey> alexicon ksysguard wont do what you want, i don't susspose.
[01:11] <dobo> khirr sudo su - and do what you wanna do
[01:11] <khirr> yes
[01:12] <khirr> doesnt reconice my pass
[01:12] <khirr> when i change it..it reconice
[01:12] <abattoir> khirr: that is *your* password
[01:12] <khirr> i remember
[01:12] <khirr> i know, but i'd like change it
[01:12] <alexicon> intelikey: bubblemon is just something i miss from my old system, theres alternatives but nothin like my little floating ducky :P
[01:12] <abattoir> khirr: try 'passwd'
[01:12] <dobo> khirr: sudo su - < enter pwd> and then at the root prompt # passwd
[01:12] <jobless> jobless
[01:13] <khirr> uhmm
[01:13] <khirr> but, how can i change ir
[01:13] <khirr> it
[01:13] <intelikey> alexicon you left me clue/speachless  </shrugs>
[01:13] <dobo> with passwd khirr
[01:13] <dobo> passwd is a command
[01:13] <abattoir> khirr: enter 'passwd' in konsole, that command changes your password
[01:13] <scheuri> khirr: if you type "passwd" you will be asked for a new one
[01:13] <alexicon> heh sorry bout t[Bheh
 jobless   :)
[01:14] <khirr> runed :D
[01:14] <dobo> hey folks i need to update modutils.d/ directory
[01:14] <dobo> how can i do that
[01:14] <scheuri> khirr: have you typed "sudo aptitude update"?
[01:14] <khirr> yes
[01:14] <scheuri> khirr: did end without error?
[01:15] <khirr> yes
[01:15] <dobo> and how can i enable the bash-completion for the user ?
[01:15] <scheuri> khirr: now try "sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre"
[01:16] <khirr> cant load
[01:16] <intelikey> dobo echo '. /etc/bash_completion ' >> ~/.bashrc
[01:16] <khirr> -_-
[01:16] <scheuri> khirr: okay...try "aptitude search sun-java5-jre"
[01:17] <jobless> goodnite all!
[01:17] <scheuri> jobless: same to you
[01:17] <khirr> pi  sun-java5-jre                       - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0
[01:17] <intelikey> lessjob c++ you.
[01:17] <nino> jobless: cheers
[01:17] <scheuri> khirr: is it a p or an i at the beginning?
[01:17] <khirr> WHAT?
[01:17] <khirr> what?
[01:17] <khirr> i didnt understand
[01:18] <scheuri> khirr: is it a p or an i at the beginning of the line you just copied and pasted into IRC
[01:18] <Jazon> guys, what changed in edgy to make my acpi go nuts?
[01:18] <khirr> uhm
[01:18] <intelikey> dobo you can edit /etc/bash.bashrc for a system wide enablement of bashrc
[01:19] <intelikey> ooops bash_completion
[01:19] <scheuri> clever to have a nick called edgy...every second line is highlighted...;)
[01:19] <intelikey> dobo same basic idea.
[01:19] <Jazon> heh
[01:19] <scheuri> khirr: uhm??
[01:21] <khirr> i'm here
[01:21] <khirr> ...
[01:21] <khirr> jre :(
[01:22] <intelikey> !java
[01:22] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[01:22] <intelikey> !repos
[01:22] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:23] <intelikey> !Multiverse
[01:23] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:24] <intelikey> !universe
[01:24] <intelikey> !repositories
[01:24] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:24] <intelikey> !universe
[01:25] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:25] <scheuri> !botsnack
[01:25] <ubotu> Yum!
[01:25] <scheuri> poor bot
[01:25] <intelikey> don't you just love symlinks.....
[01:25] <intelikey> !packages
[01:25] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[01:25] <scheuri> :)
[01:26] <scheuri> awkward ways? like compiling....yikes...;)
[01:26] <intelikey> acrobat installer ?
[01:26] <intelikey> install.exe ?
[01:26] <scheuri> is available...acroread...:)
[01:27] <intelikey> err scuse me    wine install.exe
[01:27] <scheuri> hehhe
[01:27] <scheuri> I am actually suprised how often that works
[01:27] <khirr> i dont have the web repository list
[01:27] <intelikey> tar x file.tgz ;cd file ;./configure ;make ;make install
[01:28] <scheuri> intelikey: see...that is very very awkward...;)
[01:28] <intelikey> khirr sure you do.   /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:28] <intelikey> scheuri kinda like   alian file.rpm
[01:28] <khirr> i've done
[01:28] <dobo> its the damn useradd tool defaulting to /bin/sh
[01:28] <khirr> i dont have them
[01:28] <scheuri> oh, that is worse...how dare you mention it
[01:28] <dobo> need to restart x
[01:29] <intelikey> khirr edgy or dapper ?
[01:29] <drayen> Humm... i have a set of large extneral usb hard disks, which i've formatted to use ext2 - however i find they keep getting corrupted due to my slackness of unmounting propperly (laptop user) and was wondering if there was any way to force a e2fsck after every X conections?
[01:29] <khirr> dapper
[01:30] <dobo> jippi bash_completion works
[01:30] <honest> would anyone be able to tell me what this means "FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument"
[01:30] <khirr> can u tellme wieh is the repository to java?
[01:30] <khirr> to can write this on my dource list
[01:30] <khirr> source..
[01:32] <intelikey> drayan wont setting the passnum =1 do that    see man mount   and man fstab     /etc/fstab >>> /dev/sda /mountpoint auto defaults 1 1
[01:32] <drayen> Khirr - have you tried easyubuntu? helps you install things like java and codex
[01:32] <khirr> no
[01:33] <drayen> intelikey: humm... okay i will look at that
[01:33] <drayen> khirr: http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/
[01:33] <intelikey> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper main restricted universe multiverse
[01:34] <intelikey> dat'l kubber hit.
[01:34] <cox377> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[01:34] <freewill> what is that 3d-desktop thingy called that kororaa has?
[01:35] <cox377> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[01:37] <ubuntu> hey
[01:38] <ubuntu> how to change dispaly resolution?
[01:38] <cpk1> kmenu > system settings > display
[01:40] <ubuntu> thx
[01:41] <cox377> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Dapper?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[01:42] <freewill> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable _> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed -> the nvidia driver for your running kernel. HOW DO I SOLVE TIHS?
[01:42] <khirr> one of you have a good souercelist for dapper??
[01:44] <khirr> if onw of you have nice sourcelist for dapper...this will be nice :D
[01:44] <franklyn> well, i'm looking for an sources list providing w32codecs
[01:45] <Ash-Fox> Oh great... I accidently deleted a important folder
[01:45] <freewill> uname  -i --> unknown
[01:45] <khirr> yesterday one guy gave me one source list..but not for dapper :(
[01:46] <franklyn> i think that doesn't matter in case of w32codecs
[01:46] <Ash-Fox> Anybody know of a way to recover files from reiserfs?
[01:47] <Ash-Fox> deleted files
[01:47] <freewill> anyone know how i can install my nvidia drivers?
[01:48] <Ash-Fox> !nvidia
[01:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:48] <dobo> apt-get install nvidia-glx
[01:48] <abattoir> !nvidia | freewill
[01:48] <ubotu> freewill: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:50] <freewill> dobo, i have installed that but if i tipe "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" it tells me "Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed the nvidia driver for your running kernel."
[01:50] <freewill> btw i am using this howto "https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/desktopguide/C/hardware.html"
[01:50] <Ash-Fox> have you tried restarting?
[01:51] <freewill> no i'll ...
[01:51] <Ash-Fox> Assuming you have installed the nvidia drivers.
[01:51] <freewill> yes
[01:51] <freewill> cya nou-nou...
[01:56] <vlt> Hello. In ktorrent I want to limit the bandwith. For upload it works but download speed doesn't care about my settings. Is there a way to limit it without admin rights?
[01:58] <freewill> i restarted but it still tells me the same thing..
[02:05] <daurn> hi a;;
[02:05] <daurn> hi all
[02:05] <daurn> i'm trying to samba
[02:05] <daurn> - how do i set it up?
[02:05] <daurn> !samba
[02:05] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[02:05] <wrede> wireless assistant does not work for me when connecting to an encryped network (so far the only one I have tried). After an attempt with Wireless Assistant, I can get into the network with ifup. How come?
[02:07] <intelikey> well i've desided to do an optical debug on this scripts.....
[02:07] <intelikey> i'm going to stair at them until they are fixed.
[02:08] <malix0> Hi all
[02:08] <malix0> I've a problem with kopete
[02:09] <intelikey> !work | malix0
[02:09] <ubotu> malix0: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.
[02:10] <ehird> where do i buy a tshirt saying "I STILL USE XMMS."?
[02:10] <malix0> when I send a message if is after my message there is no problem, but if I send a message after other it took a lot of time to get prompt
[02:10] <malix0> kopete look for about 10 seconds
[02:10] <intelikey> ehird see the vendor on the corner of 57th and lamar
[02:11] <rolando> hi
[02:11] <ehird> intelikey: =P
[02:11] <rolando> how do i get rid of a package that adept says its broken?
[02:11] <rolando> i cant remove it
[02:11] <intelikey> rolando sudo apt-get remove package  ?
[02:11] <malix0> So I strace the process and I find that if I send a message after mine 5/6 call to mmap2 are made, but when I send a messagga after someone the call to mmap2 become 16700
[02:12] <rolando> intelikey: this is what i get
[02:12] <intelikey> dpkg -P package --force-all   ???
[02:12] <rolando> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:13] <rolando> i dont understand that dpkg force all
[02:13] <intelikey> man dpkg
[02:14] <intelikey> use the force luke.....
[02:14] <rolando> but i thought dpkg was to install packages i have in my drive
[02:14] <rolando> lol
[02:15] <intelikey> rolando dpkg == debian package manager    it is the package manager.  apt/adept/* use dpkg
[02:16] <intelikey> dselect is one tool of dpkg   you might want to look into it also
[02:16] <Ash-Fox> !skype
[02:16] <rolando> intelikey: so i have to do this via comand line
[02:16] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[02:17] <intelikey> rolando if dpkg is hosed  yeah i doubt you fix it from a gui.
[02:18] <intelikey> however... one could i guess  if he wasn't afraid to play around in /var/lib/dpkg/info/   in knoqueror......    hehhe.
[02:19] <intelikey> warning all crash test dummies.    playing in /var/lib/dpkg/info/  is not advised with child safty restraints.....
[02:19] <intelikey> without....
[02:19] <rolando> i just wanna remove it
[02:19] <rolando> compiz-plugins
[02:19] <intelikey> hosed that didn't i...
[02:19] <rolando> cuz it wants to install compiz-core :S
[02:20] <intelikey> so remove... blast that puppy out of existance.... nuke it till it glows and shoot it at night.....
[02:21] <intelikey> kill
[02:21] <intelikey> kill -9 -1    kill kill kill!
[02:21] <cox377> is it possiuble to install stuff whilst on live cd?
[02:21] <intelikey> heh.
[02:21] <intelikey> cox377 sure is.
[02:21] <cox377> intelikey: what about sudo?
[02:22] <intelikey> cox377 what about it ?
[02:22] <intelikey> cox377   sudo echo "does it work"
[02:23] <cox377> interlikey: well u dont have a sudo pass on live cd do yah?
[02:23] <intelikey> if it says "does it work"  then it works....
[02:24] <intelikey> cox377 no you don't have a passwd    so ?
[02:25] <intelikey> who needs a stinking password.  you're root jr.
[02:26] <intelikey> i don't need no stinking password,   i'm from east L A
[02:27] <intelikey> oh sorry.... green card.
[02:34] <GnarusLeo> Hi! Does anyone know why my fonts look like crap in amsn? Where can I get normal fonts? or how?
[02:34] <daurn> i can't get samba or any ftp server to work
[02:35] <Lynoure> daurn: I recommend moving away from it if you really hate it...
[02:35] <daurn> heh
[02:35] <daurn> i'm trying
[02:35] <daurn> ... now
[02:35] <daurn> i'm trying to get my files off
[02:36] <Lynoure> But if you instead tell what's the problem with samba and or ftp, people can try to help you.
[02:36] <intelikey> that kinda pisses me off......    i asked one simple question in #bash and all i got was this big I little u complex over flowing with screw you's.....
[02:37] <Lynoure> Without any details my guess is limited to "check that your firewall or router is not blocking the traffic"
[02:37] <intelikey> iv i ever act like that some body remind me what it's like.......
[02:38] <GnarusLeo> Hi! Does anyone know why my fonts look like crap in amsn? Where can I get normal fonts? or how? Its programmed in TK/TCL (I think thats whats wrong)
[02:39] <daurn> Lynoure: router/firewall blocking something within my lan?
[02:39] <BluesKaj> Howdy All ! :)
[02:40] <daurn> well
[02:40] <daurn> i'm trying to set up samba
[02:40] <daurn> but.... when i goto it in linux OR windows
[02:40] <daurn> its empty
[02:40] <Lynoure> daurn: Not impossible, depends on your setup and some also have fw on the server
[02:40] <intelikey> anyone in here able to answer my bash question?      "what is the better way to find out if a script is called in a bash shell or other environment?   maybe $PPID ???"
[02:41] <daurn> here is my smb.conf:
[02:41] <daurn> http://rafb.net/paste/results/N5jXYj28.html
[02:41] <daurn> please try to make betterer
[02:41] <daurn> aka, woreking
[02:43] <intelikey> daurn i hope someone in here can fix it for you.  (i can't)   but if not you might ask in  ##linux   sometimes you can get some really good networking help in there,   other times you just get abuse....
[02:43] <Lynoure> daurn: So, what directory are you putting your files into to share them?
[02:43] <daurn> intelikey: just get abuse or no one paying attention
[02:43] <daurn> Lynoure: i would like to share root, but, predomiently, /media/sda1
[02:43] <Lynoure> daurn: does not look like there are any share directories defined, I do not think storage does that
[02:44] <Lynoure> daurn: (but I could be wrong)
[02:44] <daurn> heh i used the kubuntu gui for that part
[02:44] <dude_> hi guys
[02:44] <dude_> abattoir!
[02:44] <dude_> jucato !
[02:45] <abattoir> hello dude_
[02:45] <daurn> someone?
[02:46] <dude_> abattoir: can you suggest a satellite tracking app?
[02:46] <abattoir> dude_: a satellite tracking app?? what sort of satellites?
[02:47] <dude_> abattoir: satellite images, aside from google earth
[02:48] <abattoir> dude_: there are a lot of online solutions... not aware of anything stable other than google earth for linux
[02:48] <dude_> abattoir: ok tnx
[02:48] <daurn> confugring anything in linux actually makes me want to kill my self
[02:49] <BluesKaj> google earth is prolly the best
[02:49] <dude_> daurn: i've been there
[02:49] <dude_> : )
[02:49] <intelikey> daurn oh don't do that.   don't take it that seriously.  we rather have you on M$ than dead....
[02:49] <dude_> daurn: inot only likk myself but chop my body into pieces
[02:50] <Lam_> linux is fun to configure! :)
[02:50] <dude_> daurn: not only kill myself but chop my body into pieces
[02:50] <daurn> just help me getting my damn data off
[02:50] <daurn> so i can shred my linux goodbye
[02:50] <dude_> daurn: actually, im still there, just take it easy
[02:50] <intelikey> daurn what about another approach.   ssh  and scp ?
[02:51] <Lynoure> daurn: try adding   browsable = yes   to Storage
[02:51] <freewill> how do i enable xgl in kubuntu?
[02:51] <ketsugi> freewill: #ubuntu-xgl
[02:51] <abattoir> !xgl | freewill
[02:51] <ubotu> freewill: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[02:51] <intelikey> or i'll stay out of the way and let Lynoure help you.
[02:51] <dude_> daurn: there are lots of people who are willing to help
[02:52] <Lynoure> intelikey: not a good idea, I need to go soon again
[02:52] <daurn> is this a problem?
[02:52] <freewill> ketsugi, thx
[02:52] <daurn> daurnimator@desktop:/media/sda1$ /usr/bin/smbclient -L 127.0.0.1
[02:52] <intelikey> Lynoure better than me trying to help with smba
[02:52] <Lynoure> intelikey: I should learn not to try to help people when I'm in a hurry
[02:52] <daurn> Error connecting to 127.0.0.1 (Connection refused)
[02:52] <daurn> Connection to 127.0.0.1 failed
[02:52] <daurn> dude_: just they get distracted every 10seconds, and i have to find someone new
[02:53] <BluesKaj> Anyone here using Streamtuner ?
[02:53] <intelikey> Lynoure i'm firstly network illiterate and secondly M$ blind.
[02:53] <Lynoure> intelikey: I just get rash from MS :)
[02:53] <intelikey> thirdly samba dislexic.
[02:53] <dude_> !Streamtuner
[02:53] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Streamtuner - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:53] <daurn> as  i was saying....
[02:54] <Lynoure> daurn: is that a new occarance? Empty usually means something else than not being able to connect to oneself
[02:54] <Lynoure> s/occarancee/occurance
[02:54] <daurn> Lynoure: can i just give you ssh access & you do it for me?
[02:54] <Lynoure> oh well, I better go
[02:54] <daurn> :(
[02:55] <dude_> by Lynoure, take care dude
[02:55] <Lynoure> daurn: I hugely recommend giving ssh access to people you do not know, really
[02:55] <intelikey> daurn if you can ssh from one box to the other just scp the files over.
[02:55] <daurn> scp?
[02:55] <intelikey> secure copy
[02:55] <intelikey> works over ssh connection
[02:56] <Lynoure> scp is good stuff :)
[02:56] <daurn> AHHH
[02:56] <daurn> ssh won't work
[02:56] <intelikey> nm
[02:56] <intelikey> see key word beginning former statement.   "IF"
[02:57] <daurn> just help me get my damn data off
[02:58] <daurn> telnet into me if you want
[02:58] <daurn> i just need it done
[02:58] <intelikey> pull the hd and plug it in the other box      mount it and    move it.
[02:58] <daurn> i'm despeate
[02:58] <wezlo> hey, anyone know where the "safely remove" option went for removable disks?
[02:58] <daurn> intelikey: in a raid array only working in this box
[02:58] <daurn> wezlo: right click it on desktop -> eject
[02:58] <intelikey> raid.... e gads.
[02:59] <wezlo> daurn: I did - not one of the options
[02:59] <daurn> just help me ffs
[02:59] <intelikey> ok sorry daurn just type /ignore intelikey all     please.
[02:59] <dude_> ,m
[02:59] <dobo> mplayer is the de facto standard player for linux based systems.
[03:00] <dobo> and i need to install it by hand
[03:00] <daurn> dobo: i'm happy for you
[03:00] <wezlo> daurn, but it is an option in the media browser - that's just weird (I just checked)
[03:00] <intelikey> dobo i thought vlc was.... or sox :)
[03:00] <dobo> its a nice distribution, but it doesnt fit my needs. looks fine, works strange.
[03:01] <daurn> DIE
[03:01] <daurn> DIE
[03:01] <fumbalah> I have a Inspiron 6000 that is working wondefully, except when I try and enable the wireless card, it just stays disabled
[03:01] <intelikey> use the 8 lbs'er
[03:01] <wezlo> does anyone else get the impression that edgy was rushed?
[03:01] <daurn> fumbalah: ndiswrapper?
[03:01] <fumbalah> ah, good call
[03:01] <daurn> ARG
[03:02] <freewill> i don't understand what these people say with "nvidia 9xxxx" http://swik.net/aiglx
[03:02] <intelikey> wezlo nah ......
[03:02] <instructor> Man (k)ubuntu is really getting under my skin
[03:02] <wezlo> intelikey - it's just that I've had a LOT of problems - and I did a clean install
[03:02] <intelikey> freewill the prorpitary driver version number 9****
[03:03] <ubuntu> instructor: why?
[03:03] <instructor> Well it kant make up it's mind
[03:03] <intelikey> wezlo eeek   i been hearing "lot of problems from upgraded" but not "lot of problems from clean install"....
[03:03] <freewill> intelikley: ok, i thought i was for the range of cards u know like 7900....
[03:04] <instructor> Everytime I reboot the machine I need to crawl behind my computer to reconnect the network
[03:04] <BluesKaj> well instructor, it eventuall works with right "instructions":)  not like some other distros i can name
[03:04] <intelikey> freewill yes   the xxx  or  *** means any three digits
[03:04] <instructor> and so far it seems that every other day konqueror swaps the shortcut keys from ^{ to ^PgUp
[03:04] <instructor> wait ^[
[03:05] <wezlo> intelikey - well it's a bunch of little things like my touchpad not being configured, wireless being buggy, and now removing removable drives from teh desktop
[03:05] <instructor> BluesKaj: how do I get it to stop swapping back and forth between network cards?
[03:05] <Crissi> hi
[03:06] <wezlo> I had to recompile kino, my wireless card drivers, and edit xorg.conf by hand
[03:06] <Crissi> in which package is kuickshow included? i could not find it. normally its part of kdebase
[03:06] <Crissi> kdegraphics
[03:06] <intelikey> mmm wezlo those things....  none of which i would have noticed being a console user with no wifi or touchpad.
[03:06] <wezlo> one thing I DO like is my sound notifications are synced with alert windows now
[03:07] <SHRIKEE> oy, why does when i use suspend mode on my laptop a screensave-ish thing show up :S
[03:07] <wezlo> intelikey - yah, but it's a desktop distro so those things seem like big misses
[03:07] <SHRIKEE> i mena, when i resume the system. then after 10 minutes or so this thing comes up
[03:07] <cpk1> Crissi: you're not going to like this but rofl File kuickshow found in kdegraphics-doc-html
[03:07] <BluesKaj> sorry instructor , i'm not sure ...i'm still trying get kubuntu to network with wife's windows pc
[03:07] <wezlo> I think I'll run the beta's next cycle so I can submit bug reports
[03:08] <instructor> BluesKaj: What's the issue?
[03:08] <cpk1> unless maybe kuickshow is part of kdegraphics
[03:08] <intelikey> wezlo oh yeah, i don't disagree with you at all.  just that it's things i dont use.
[03:08] <Jucato> cpk1, Crissi: kuickshow has been unsuported since Dapper, because of its dependency on an older version of imlib, while the rest of the system uses imlib2
[03:08] <wezlo> intelikey - heh, I find that funny, why aren't your just using debian?
[03:09] <Crissi> h?
[03:09] <Jucato> unsupported = removed
[03:09] <intelikey> wezlo that's a good idea.  they need that kind of help    if you don't "burn out" on it.
[03:09] <Crissi> its part of kdegraphics!!!
[03:09] <intelikey> wezlo because i'm on dialup and the ubuntu cd was free   lol
[03:09] <wezlo> intelikey - well my problem is that I've only got one laptop to test on and if it gets borked I'm in big trough
[03:09] <wezlo> trouble
[03:09] <wezlo> intelikey - ROFL
[03:09] <intelikey> duel boot
[03:09] <intelikey> dual
[03:10] <Crissi> Jucato: its very sad to kick kuickshow
[03:10] <BluesKaj> instructor, kubuntu sees the network but not the shared files on the windows pc
[03:10] <instructor> what does smb:/ return?
[03:10] <intelikey> wezlo stable on one part beta on another
[03:10] <BluesKaj> i can print to the windows network printer np
[03:10] <Jucato> Crissi: the devs said that if someone is willing to package kuickshow (using the older imlib) and maintain it regularly, they'll be happy to put it back in. but right now, it's not a priority, specially with GwenView and Digikam now installed by default
[03:12] <intelikey> Jucato you gonna take that challange ?
[03:12] <Jucato> intelikey: definitely not :)
[03:12] <intelikey> heh
[03:12] <intelikey> just thought i'd ask faceously
[03:13] <Jucato> 1) I don't know how to, 2) I don't even know what kuickshow can do that gwenview/digikam with kipi-plugins can't, and 3) I don't need it :P
[03:13] <SHRIKEE> why does there a screensaver appear after i use suspend and resume the system :S
[03:14] <pichi_> hello to all
[03:14] <jazzrocker> how do i take a screenshot?
[03:14] <v3ctor> shrikee: because of the time difference between suspend time and unsuspend time
[03:14] <Crissi> Jucato: debian package is already there
[03:14] <dude_> jucato: have you installed xgl or beryl ?
[03:14] <abattoir> jazzrocker: hit Print Screen on the keyboard
[03:14] <Jucato> dude_: no
[03:14] <Crissi> just fetch it and modify debian dir
[03:15] <SHRIKEE> yes but when i resume it the screensaver appears after like 10 minutes
[03:15] <abattoir> jazzrocker: if that doesn't work, launch ksnapshot
[03:15] <SHRIKEE> like a regular one
[03:15] <SHRIKEE> i dont want it :(
[03:15] <dude_> jucato: still no plan?
[03:15] <Jucato> Crissi: like I said, I won't be doing it. for the aforementioned reasons
[03:15] <Jucato> hi abattoir!
[03:15] <Crissi> blah
[03:15] <Jucato> dude_: haven't settled down a bit yet
[03:15] <Crissi> no plausible
[03:15] <abattoir> hey Jucato, when did you come back? ;)
[03:15] <v3ctor> no clue ont that, i don't use suspend
[03:15] <Jucato> abattoir: a few minutes ago...
[03:15] <Crissi> thats not a reason
[03:15] <Jucato> I forgot to log out
[03:15] <Jucato> Crissi: what is not a reason?
[03:16] <Crissi> what you say about kuickshow
[03:16] <dude_> abattoir: what do you think? should i install beryl or xgl?
[03:16] <Crissi> its simply to package like other kde programs too
[03:16] <constantine-xvi> is there any way to force konqueror to put the filemanager and browser instances in different windows?
[03:16] <abattoir> dude_: umm, they really are not substitutes
[03:17] <abattoir> dude_: aiglx + beryl seems to be the most recommended way
[03:17] <Jucato> dude_: maybe you mean beryl or compiz? xgl or aiglx?
[03:17] <abattoir> dude_: edgy right?
[03:17] <dude_> abattoir: yes
[03:17] <abattoir> dude_: ok, then you have compositing on in X, all you need is to get beryl
[03:17] <cpk1> constantine-xvi: open 2 different instances and use one for filemanager and one for browser?
[03:18] <Vegeta^> Is it possible for the editor KATE to read serveral encodings at once?
[03:18] <Vegeta^> texteditor*
[03:18] <Jucato> Crissi: I'm just saying what the devs had said. Kubuntu packages stuff in main differently from how Debian does it or some other distro for that matter
[03:18] <dude_> abattoir: "apt-get install beryl?"
[03:18] <abattoir> dude_: yes, but you'll have to enable 3rd party repos first
[03:18] <abattoir> dude_: wait
[03:19] <constantine-xvi> cpk1: i have konqui set to load everything in the same window, so when i plug in a flash drive, it pops up in with my browser tabs, or vice versa
[03:19] <dude_> k
[03:19] <constantine-xvi> if i tell it to not load everything in the same window, i get tons of windows
[03:19] <Crissi> Jucato: the devs are sometimes stupid. still too many bugs in etchy... same as in dapper on release...
[03:20] <cpk1> constantine-xvi: if you get a tab in the wrong window you can drag it to the other one
[03:20] <Jucato> Crissi: if that is your view, then either 1) take it up with those stupid devs or 2) package kuickshow for Kubuntu yourself, since apparently you are quite knowledgeable
[03:20] <abattoir> dude_: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/AiGLX and http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/
[03:21] <abattoir> dude_: i'm assuming you have a capable video card
[03:21] <intelikey> Jucato :)
[03:21] <abattoir> !beryl | dude_
[03:21] <ubotu> dude_: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[03:21] <intelikey> don't let it get to you....
[03:21] <abattoir> those too, of course
[03:21] <Crissi> i think i'll kick ubuntu..
[03:21] <cpk1> over kuickview?!?!
[03:21] <Crissi> there too many bugs and stupid things
[03:21] <dude_> ohh..links again...ok hehehhe, just kiding
[03:22] <Jucato> there are more stupid users than there are bugs and stupid things
[03:22] <abattoir> Jucato +1 ;)
[03:22] <intelikey> no dought
[03:22] <magical_trevsky> in /etc/sudoers, it says it must be edited by visudo, but can I not just use 'sudo nano'?
[03:23] <abattoir> magical_trevsky: i think visudo is just enhance nano
[03:23] <abattoir> *enhanced
[03:23] <magical_trevsky> abattoir, ok, cool
[03:23] <magical_trevsky> thanks
[03:23] <dude_> abattoir: wish me luck hehehe
[03:23] <cpk1> programming is a race between programmers making more idiot-proof programs and the universe making stupider and stupider idiots
[03:23] <abattoir> magical_trevsky: sudo visudo is pretty much the same as sudo nano, i think
[03:23] <cpk1> the universe is winning
[03:23] <intelikey> magical_trevsky you can.   visudo would check the syntax of the file and if it's not sane offer to let you go back in and fix it....
[03:23] <abattoir> dude_: heh, good luck
[03:23] <Jucato> cpk1: that's why we need more MOTU (Masters of the Universe) :P
[03:24] <cpk1> lol
[03:24] <dude_> abattoir: btw, where should i add those line dev?
[03:24] <intelikey> i have edited  sudoers with  jed  nano  mcedit   you name it.
[03:24] <dude_> abattoir: at the buttom?
[03:24] <abattoir> dude_: line dev?
[03:24] <dude_> abattoir: deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main-edgy
[03:25] <abattoir> dude_: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:25] <abattoir> dude_: doesn't the page say that?
[03:25] <Jucato> anyone knows which package will install the man pages for C/C++ functions? or if there is such a thing...
[03:25] <intelikey> magical_trevsky may i sujest you set a root password until you get finished playing with sudoers.  makes things recoverable
[03:25] <dude_> abattoir: ya...at the of the list?
[03:25] <abattoir> dude_: yeah, you can add it to the bottom of the list
[03:25] <abattoir> (if you mean that)
[03:26] <dude_> ok
[03:26] <intelikey> one mis-char in sudoers and you are in for a reboot unless you can get in a root shell
[03:29] <intelikey> also of note   make the symlink  " /usr/bin/editor  "   point to your favorite text based editor and visudo will open with that editor.
[03:30] <dude_> abattoir: getting public key error
[03:31] <abattoir> dude_: you can ignore that
[03:31] <abattoir> dude_: or you could add the key for that repo
[03:31] <bordi> @@seen dobo
[03:31] <abattoir> !seen dobo
[03:31] <ubotu> I last saw dobo (n=dobo@Q1d65.q.pppool.de) 26m 26s ago, quiting: Remote closed the connection
[03:31] <abattoir> bordi: ^^^
[03:31] <intelikey> ! !
[03:32] <bordi> abattoir, yes thanks
[03:32] <intelikey> hut oh... i hope that's not a recursive bomb i just dropped on the bot...
[03:32] <dude_> abattoir: but when i sudo apt-get update, it gives me this error ----> W: GPG error: http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2D6CFB44DD800CD9
[03:32] <intelikey> ! ! ! !
[03:33] <abattoir> dude_: you can safely ignore that
[03:33] <abattoir> intelikey: i'm pretty sure the developers of supybot would've thought of that ;)
[03:33] <abattoir> or atleast would've come across it before
[03:33] <Jucato> !
[03:33] <intelikey> one would hope so...
[03:34] <Jucato> ubotu: ping
[03:34] <ubotu> ping: connection timeout
[03:34] <dude_> abattoir: i hope this will work hehehe
[03:34] <intelikey> dude_ what  "<dude_> abattoir: getting public key error "   error are you getting ?
[03:34] <Jucato> GPG errors probably
[03:34] <abattoir> intelikey: <dude_> abattoir: but when i sudo apt-get update, it gives me this error ----> W: GPG error: http://3v1n0.tuxfamily.org edgy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2D6CFB44DD800CD9
[03:34] <scheuri> rehi all
[03:34] <dude_> abattoir: irssi -c right?
[03:35] <dude_> hehehehe
[03:35] <abattoir> heh
[03:35] <abattoir> and w3m too ;)
[03:35] <intelikey> abattoir i was "aimed" to point out that  W != E
[03:35] <Jucato> dude_: irssi -c irc.ubuntu.com
[03:35] <intelikey> ;/
[03:35] <Jucato> but w3m isn't installed by default, right?
[03:35] <v3ctor> i still like lynx
[03:35] <abattoir> intelikey: isn't W a warning?
[03:35] <intelikey> abattoir yes indeed
[03:36] <dude_> abattoir: gettin ready to enter the world of crash again hehehehe
[03:36] <intelikey> W = warning     E = error     w != e
[03:36] <abattoir> intelikey: to be fair, it does say GPG error ;)
[03:36] <intelikey> yes but the prepended W means it's only a warning.
[03:37] <abattoir> ok ok
[03:37] <dennister> g'day ppls
[03:37] <Jucato> shall we get into a debate because of this? :P
[03:37] <scheuri2> hi dennister
[03:37] <dennister> hi scheuri2
[03:37] <scheuri> yay, that is fun
[03:37] <scheuri> sorry..
[03:38] <dennister> lol...2 scheuris
[03:38] <abattoir> Jucato: yay debates, fun :D
[03:38] <abattoir> hehe
[03:38] <Jucato> abattoir: don't get me wrong. only because of a certain DH :P
[03:38] <intelikey> E != W    W == the system saying "i noticed a security hole, you may want to check it out; and maybe fix it.  but this process is finishing without error"
[03:38] <abattoir> Jucato: dh?
[03:39] <Jucato> abattoir: nvm :P
[03:39] <Jucato> just teasing you
[03:39] <abattoir> yeah, that's fine, but what is DH
[03:39] <abattoir> dream host? :P
[03:39] <Jucato> abattoir: wow, you *are* smart :)
[03:40] <Jucato> heheh anyway, brb :P
[03:40] <abattoir> Jucato: yeah, i get that abnormality when i don't sleep often
[03:40] <abattoir> oh ... wait... nvm
[03:40] <Jucato> abattoir: getting enough sleep *is* the abnormality for you :)
[03:41] <scheuri> you two are great...really....stop talking...all the people having questions are afraid of asking them because of you two...:)
[03:41] <intelikey> while   E == the system saying " something went south, and i'm not sure how to handle it.  please help me! "
[03:41] <abattoir> scheuri: ugh, that was the plan... how did you find out? :(
[03:41] <scheuri> abattoir: uhmm...wild guessing I guess...;)
[03:41] <h3sp4wn> That above error message can happen if your clock is set incorrectly (and then it happens every time)
[03:41] <scheuri> abattoir: was working in support once as well...;)
[03:42] <dude_> hehehe, twilight zone
[03:42] <h3sp4wn> (or at least did on debian mipsel - when I was last debugging it)
[03:42] <abattoir> ok, have to go bye :P
[03:42] <intelikey> later ab.
[03:42] <scheuri> later abattoir
[03:42] <abattoir> intelikey: nah, was just kidding
[03:43] <intelikey> no i wasn't.
[03:43] <scheuri> aww
[03:43] <intelikey> :)
[03:43] <abattoir> ok, i'll stop w/ this offtopic chatter
[03:43] <abattoir> dude_: how is the install going?
[03:43] <dude_> abattoir: hehehe, hang
[03:46] <instructor> aseigo: Ha ha well done
[03:46] <instructor> aseigo: http://forum.meebo.com/viewtopic.php?p=187&sid=b5200737e8f0d27e9cb93fcac85d2bc4#187
[03:47] <aseigo> instructor: my name is seigo not sergio
[03:48] <instructor> Why so it is :-)
[03:48] <abattoir> lol
[03:51] <MetaMorfoziS> hey! i have  a problem about kde-guidance-powermanager... when i turns on the notebook, it boots up, i login
[03:51] <MetaMorfoziS> and after that, it said the lid is closed, and itlocks the screen
[03:52] <MetaMorfoziS> that does this after all boots
[03:52] <MetaMorfoziS> and its annoying, how can i solve it or where it's config file?
[03:52] <soulrider> hi everyone
[03:53] <voicu> is there a config file for iptables that I cand edit directly?
[03:53] <scheuri> hoi soulrider
[03:53] <soulrider> hi scheuri
[03:54] <scheuri> !iptables
[03:54] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[03:58] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hey guys how do i listen to the radio from kubuntu
[03:58] <Th3_Cr0up13R> internet
[03:58] <Th3_Cr0up13R> radio
[03:58] <scheuri> should be?
[03:59] <scheuri> we?
[03:59] <dude_> abattoir: still alive
[03:59] <dude_> abattoir: hehehehe
[03:59] <h3sp4wn> Th3_Cr0up13R: just use amarok
[03:59] <Th3_Cr0up13R> you know something like the media player on windows has , does ubu have anything like that
[03:59] <h3sp4wn> Th3_Cr0up13R: Point it to a stream
[03:59] <abattoir> dude_: barely
[03:59] <dude_> abattoir: there's an error
[03:59] <abattoir> dude_: pastebin it if it's large
[03:59] <dude_> abattoir: xgl is not present
[03:59] <h3sp4wn> Th3_Cr0up13R: there is some in the default playlists
[04:00] <dude_> abattoir: xgl is not present
[04:00] <Th3_Cr0up13R> nice
[04:00] <dude_> abattoir: whats that?
[04:00] <abattoir> dude_: aiglx should be on, if you're using edgy
[04:00] <Th3_Cr0up13R> h3sp4wn:  thanx
[04:01] <dude_> abattoir: nvidia present, xgl not present <--- this is the error then it hangs
[04:02] <abattoir> dude_: not sure, try asking in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:02] <dude_> abattoir: but when i run the beryl configuration, its working
[04:02] <Th3_Cr0up13R> h3sp4wn:  something weird that happens to my dvd-recorder
[04:03] <h3sp4wn> Th3_Cr0up13R: Don't know much about cd / dvd writing
[04:03] <Th3_Cr0up13R> it recognises my data dvds but when i put a movie dvd it doesnt even mount the drive
[04:04] <v3ctor> !dvd
[04:04] <ehird> is there a way to make ls output something like this, one line per directory:
[04:04] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:04] <ehird> file in dir 1.ext file 2 in dir 1.ext
[04:04] <ehird> file in dir 2.ext file 2 in dir 2.ext
[04:04] <ehird> i.e. easily passable to commandline tools
[04:04] <ehird> using recursive mode obviously
[04:06] <Th3_Cr0up13R> you see i gog the libdvdcss2 and all the libraries that got dvd on them
[04:06] <Th3_Cr0up13R> even dev and doc for them but it doesnt seem to recognise it
[04:06] <ehird> :/
[04:07] <mentok> anyone here have any trouble running qjackctl as a non-root user?
[04:07] <voicu> ehird: find creates such an output
[04:07] <mentok> or anyone know the solution to running qjackctl as a non-root user?
[04:08] <h3sp4wn> mentok: have you a realtime kernel and all the associated stuff you need to get it working right ?
[04:08] <ehird> voicu: it does one line per file
[04:08] <ehird> i need files per folder on one line (i'm passing it to an album replaygain script)
[04:09] <ehird> preferably i need to ignore files called cover.jpg too
[04:09] <mentok> i don't have the realitime kernel at the moment
[04:09] <h3sp4wn> mentok: are you using pam or realtime-lsm ?
[04:09] <voicu> ehird, oh, sorry
[04:09] <mentok> h3sp4wn hmm, not sure
[04:09] <ehird> voicu: thanks though
[04:09] <h3sp4wn> mentok: Did you see the ubuntu studio website ?
[04:10] <mentok> h3sp4wn: I know it works because when I do kdesu qjackctl I can run jack
[04:10] <mentok> h3sp4wn: i read ubuntu studio, but I may have to go back and do that again
[04:11] <mentok> h3sp4wn: is there a module there I need to load in order to use it as non-root
[04:11] <mentok> ?
[04:12] <h3sp4wn> mentok: you use either pam or realtime-lsm but I don't remember how (I have only had it working right once quite a while ago)
[04:13] <dude_> abattoir: no one is answering : (
[04:13] <mentok> h3sp4wn: hmm, I had it running previously, without a realtime kernel, but since I did the update to 6.10 I had to reload everything
[04:13] <abattoir> dude_: it's not a very busy channel, be a bit patient...
[04:13] <abattoir> dude_: try #beryl too
[04:14] <h3sp4wn> mentok: what sort of latency
[04:14] <lupine_85> ooooooooh, what a lie :p
[04:14] <mentok> best latency I got is about 1ms
[04:14] <h3sp4wn> but how consistant ?
[04:15] <mentok> h3sp4wn: very consistent, very few x-runs if any
[04:15] <mentok> h3sp4wn: I'm using an amd64 without realtime
[04:17] <Sheazsche> whats a good kde program for editing my startup services?
[04:17] <Sheazsche> also is there a way i can view whats going on during the bootup splash screen
[04:17] <h3sp4wn> Sheazsche: Don't know of a kde one but sysv-rc-conf , rcconf or update-rc.d are all reasonably good
[04:18] <h3sp4wn> Sheazsche: remove the quiet from the kernel boot line (by pressing e from grub for example)
[04:22] <freewill> https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/kubuntu/about-kubuntu/C/index.html here they say edgy has kde 3.5.4 and on my edgy setup it tells me its got 3.5.5
[04:22] <Jucato> freewill: by the time that KDE 3.5.5 was added, it was already to late to update/change the official documentation.
[04:24] <freewill> Jucato so you can only update the official documentation before it gets released?
[04:24] <Jucato> freewill: some updates didn't make it to what they called the documentation "freeze" (I forgot the exact term)
[04:25] <freewill> Jucato lol ok anyways i just actually wanted to know if its wronge cya
[04:29] <Th3_Cr0up13R> im using kde , are the kdm themes gona work from kde-look
[04:30] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i tried to download a couple but i dont seem to get them working
[04:30] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: yes. I suggest installing the "kdmtheme" package to make installing them easier
[04:32] <Angrataf> ehem.. i've got a question (again :P) i have installed rpm and alien, kann i now install *.rpms simple with rpm in the bash, like in suse?
[04:35] <ehird> Angrataf: conver it wtih alien
[04:35] <abattoir> Angrataf: suse rpms might not work very well
[04:35] <abattoir> Angrataf: couldn't you find deb packages?
[04:36] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i get the file is not a valid kdm theme archive
[04:36] <Th3_Cr0up13R> what something.* should they be?
[04:39] <Th3_Cr0up13R> something.kth , something.png what type should they be cause the ones i got nothing is a valid one aparently
[04:40] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: it should be a .tar.gz archive. Are you trying to install a KDM theme or a KDE theme? (big difference)
[04:41] <Th3_Cr0up13R> kde theme
[04:41] <Th3_Cr0up13R> sorry kdm theme
[04:42] <Th3_Cr0up13R> im trying to install  kdm theme with kdmtheme package you told me
[04:42] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: did you install the "kdmtheme" package I told you about?
[04:42] <Th3_Cr0up13R> yes
[04:42] <Th3_Cr0up13R> thats what im using now
[04:42] <Jucato> ah. can you give me a link to that kdm theme you're trying to use?
[04:44] <Th3_Cr0up13R> http://www.kde-look.org/ kdm themes
[04:44] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: which one exactly? there are lots of them
[04:44] <dude_> abattoir: : (
[04:44] <Th3_Cr0up13R> just managed to install black-gentoo
[04:44] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: btw, are you on Dapper or Edgy?
[04:45] <Th3_Cr0up13R> dapper
[04:45] <Jucato> ah there you have it :)
[04:45] <Th3_Cr0up13R> it wasnt that i wanted to do though i wanted to change the kde look , like the kde theme
[04:45] <abattoir> dude_: what happened?
[04:45] <Th3_Cr0up13R> kdm looks like it is the login page
[04:45] <dude_> abattoir: it freezes
[04:45] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: the KDM theme *is* the login screen
[04:46] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i need to change the theme in kde like how the windows appear and colours and all this
[04:46] <abattoir> dude_: sorry, can't help much, haven't used beryl
[04:46] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: what you wanted to do was change the *KDE* appearance.
[04:47] <Th3_Cr0up13R> yep i guess, i tried from the system / appearance but i need something else like new themes and styles but it doesnt look
[04:47] <Th3_Cr0up13R> like i can install them properly
[04:47] <dude_> abattoir: its, ok tnx
[04:47] <abattoir> dude_: asked at #beryl and #ubuntu-xgl?
[04:47] <Th3_Cr0up13R> is there a kde theme package like it was for the kdm
[04:48] <dude_> abattoir: no replys
[04:48] <abattoir> dude_: be patient and wait
[04:48] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i know dekorator but it doesnt seem to work on mine
[04:48] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: this might help: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30641/ (you might have to copy and paste the text in Kate to read it)
[04:49] <dude_> abattoir: maybe i have to install nvidia driver
[04:49] <abattoir> dude_: ugh, you didn't?
[04:49] <abattoir> dude_: i remember specifically telling you that
[04:49] <Jucato> dude_: you need 3D acceleration to use all that XGL stuff
[04:49] <gnomefreak> dude_: the beta drivers
[04:49] <abattoir> dude_: something to the effect that i assume you have a capable card and 3d accel. enabled
[04:49] <gnomefreak> !nvidia-beta | dude_
[04:49] <ubotu> dude_: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) Beta version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm" (for x86) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[04:50] <dude_> abattoir: but i have a 3ddesktop app and it is working
[04:50] <Jucato> gnomefreak: it must be the beta drivers? the regulard nvidia-glx drivers won't work?
[04:50] <abattoir> *3d h/w acceleration
[04:50] <gnomefreak> Jucato: not unless he installs xgl
[04:51] <dude_> gnomefreak: beryl
[04:51] <gnomefreak> Jucato: the non beta drivers dont work with aiglx
[04:51] <Jucato> gnomefreak: ah
[04:51] <gnomefreak> dude_: xgl + beryl or nvidia-beta+beryl
[04:51] <Th3_Cr0up13R> you see it says i have to choose dekorator from system settings but i cannot see it in my system settings
[04:51] <dude_> ok
[04:51] <gnomefreak> dude_: please see #ubuntu-xgl /topic for instuctions
[04:54] <MRMorefield-ft> i try the command : sudo apt -get update . but he says he cant find apt
[04:55] <sledge_at_work> MRMorefield-ft: trp apt-get instead of apt -get
[04:55] <sledge_at_work> :P
[04:55] <dude_> !beryl
[04:55] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[04:55] <MRMorefield-ft> hahaha:P
[04:55] <MRMorefield-ft> thx
[04:55] <MRMorefield-ft> iam such a loser
[04:55] <MRMorefield-ft> it works now
[04:58] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i got a cannon ip15000 but on the model selection in the setup it wants me to find some kind of file in some location
[04:58] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i looked the internet no help in canon 15000 driver
[04:58] <Th3_Cr0up13R> or setup
[04:58] <Th3_Cr0up13R> under modle selection ip15k doesnt exist
[05:00] <ehird> anybody know a good replaygain scanner for linux?
[05:00] <ehird> it should automatically do album-replaygain based on the album tags
[05:00] <ehird> i just need MP3+flac support
[05:00] <ehird> so I can do "rg-scan *"
[05:00] <ehird> and the same inside newly ripped album's directories
[05:03] <ehird> =/
[05:03] <dude_> abattoir: whats the command again 4 editing sources.list
[05:03] <dude_> :)
[05:03] <abattoir> dude_: kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:03] <ehird> dude_: sudo $EDITOR /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:03] <abattoir> dude_: or you could do it throuh Adept->Adept->Manage Repositories
[05:04] <dude_> ok, tnx
[05:04] <Angrataf> i know, thios isn't a gentoo channel, but were can i find one?
[05:04] <ehird> Angrataf: oh i dunno.. maybe try #gentoo? (GASP)
[05:05] <Angrataf> ehm, yes (I'am stupid, i know)
[05:05] <slow-motion> hallo
[05:06] <Angrataf> hm.. in wich network should it be?
[05:06] <robin_> can some one help me out, everything on my screen seems really large(icons, windows, its not my resolution
[05:06] <BluesKaj> google gentoo forums
[05:06] <jhutchins> Angrataf: freenode
[05:09] <cox377> !wireless
[05:09] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:10] <ehird> robin_: probably, stuff in kde is larger than windows in my experience
[05:11] <klerfayt> good compiz repo for edgy?
[05:12] <T3hWiz0rd> lol
[05:12] <T3hWiz0rd> people are still trying XGL eh?
[05:12] <robin_> no there is a problem, I have been using kubuntu for some time now, I was playing with wine trying to get starcraft working and after a reboot everything is bigger
[05:12] <klerfayt> T3hWiz0rd no
[05:12] <orville> anyone with a macbook pro here?
[05:12] <orville> I'll even take someone who's gotten synaptics working at this point :-)
[05:12] <klerfayt> T3hWiz0rd beryl has black windows; black backround; in other words unusable
[05:13] <ehird> does anybody know how i could, in a bash script, a space-delimited list of files in a dir, minus one i specify, that include the path, excluding one file, in each dir? Example:
[05:14] <ehird> ./dir1/randomfile1.ext ./dir2/randomfile2.ext\n
[05:14] <jobless> can anybody help me to remove the transparency of kmenu?
[05:14] <ehird> ./dir3/randomfile3.ext ./dir4/randomfile4.ext
[05:14] <jobless> can anybody help me to remove the transparency of kmenu? ehird can u?
[05:15] <jobless> !transparency
[05:15] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:15] <ehird> jobless: so, just because I say something you jump on me to answer?
[05:16] <jobless> ehird i thought we were the only ones here.. active ..!
[05:17] <jobless> sorry if that hurt u! ehird
[05:17] <DrSpeed> ciao
[05:23] <knapp> How can I get kopete to auto-reconnect when the connection drops?
[05:25] <dude_> abattoir: you there?
[05:25] <Angrataf> hey, where can i download KGet?
[05:25] <Angrataf> oder an other good DL-manager
[05:25] <abattoir> dude_: yes
[05:25] <abattoir> Angrataf: it should already be installed
[05:25] <dude_> abattoir: hehehe, beauty of irrsi
[05:26] <dude_> abattoir: busted again hehehehe
[05:26] <abattoir> dude_: told you to get familiar w/ it ;)
[05:26] <Angrataf> it can't find it
[05:26] <abattoir> Angrataf: sorry, my mistake
[05:26] <abattoir> !info kget
[05:26] <ubotu> kget: download manager for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 431 kB, installed size 1176 kB
[05:26] <MiracleBlue> Ahoy.
[05:26] <abattoir> Angrataf: it's in universe... apt-get install it if you have it enabled
[05:26] <dude_> abattoir: i can't start x server :(
[05:27] <abattoir> dude_: did you backup your xorg.conf?
[05:27] <abattoir> (i remember telling you this as well before)
[05:28] <dude_> abattoir: nope, i forgot :(
[05:28] <aaroncampbell> I just installed Kubuntu (edgy), and I'm having some odd problems.  First, I can't seem to set it up for dual monitors.  I go to System Setting, and choose "Monitor & Display"...switch to administrator mode...choose "Second Screen", and "Dual Screen" but I still see one screen to the right, and the dropdown for positioning of the 2 screens is greyed out
[05:28] <dude_> abattoir: i quit !
[05:28] <abattoir> dude_: then i guess 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' is the way to go
[05:28] <Galathalion> can anyone help me install opera, plz?
[05:28] <abattoir> dude_: heh
[05:28] <abattoir> dude_: beryl? or kubuntu?
[05:29] <dude_> abattoir: i hate beryl waaahhh !
[05:29] <knapp> Galathalion, Opera is installable via Automatix, if that helps you any.
[05:29] <Galathalion> knapp: whats Automatix?
[05:29] <abattoir> !automatix
[05:29] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[05:29] <ermak> can anyone help to configure bluetooth in order to use internet connection from pocket pc?
[05:30] <ehird> no ideas..?
[05:30] <knapp> Galathalion, what version of ubuntu are you running?
[05:30] <Galathalion> knapp: im not sure, how do you find out?
[05:30] <dude_> abattoir: xserver-xorg is not installed
[05:31] <abattoir> dude_: what?? you installed xgl?
[05:32] <dude_> abattoir: i don't know...wwwaaahhh !
[05:32] <abattoir> dude_: see, if you did something other than what i instructed you to do, you must tell me, else i can't really be of help
[05:33] <dude_> abattoir: i didnt install xgl
[05:33] <aaroncampbell> how can I tell what version of KDE I have?
[05:33] <abattoir> dude_: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[05:33] <abattoir> aaroncampbell: Help->About KDE
[05:33] <abattoir> (in any KDE application)
[05:34] <knapp> Galathalion aaroncampbell: cat /etc/issue
[05:35] <aaroncampbell> knapp: what for?
[05:35] <aaroncampbell> knapp: it just says "Ubuntu 6.10 \n \l"
[05:35] <knapp> cat /etc/issue in terminal to find what version of Ubuntu you are running.
[05:36] <aaroncampbell> knapp: I wanted my KDE version
[05:36] <aaroncampbell> knapp: thanks though
[05:36] <knapp> OOPS
[05:36] <aaroncampbell> I'm 3.5.5
[05:36] <Galathalion> knapp: thnx.. i have Ubuntu 6.06.1
[05:36] <knapp> Right click the panel, help, about kde :P
[05:36] <jobless> abattoir i got a problem again..! how do i disable the transparencies for the kmenu and other menus?
[05:36] <abattoir> jobless: same place you enabled it
[05:36] <aaroncampbell> I just didn't find an answer in here, so I thought I'd ask in #kde ...and I thought I'd need the version #
[05:37] <jobless> haha .. i was messing with the system and i forgot where i did that.. i have been searching for it the past hour!
[05:37] <jobless> haha .. i was messing with the system and i forgot where i did that.. i have been searching for it the past hour! abattoir
[05:37] <abattoir> jobless: System settings->Appearane->Styles , i think
[05:37] <knapp> Galathalion: Then follow this guide http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_Automatix2_on_Ubuntu.2C_Kubuntu.2C_and_Xubuntu
[05:38] <Galathalion> knapp: ok ill try it. thank you.
[05:38] <knapp> Galathalion: Once installed, you can use it to easily install Opera web browser.
[05:39] <abattoir> jobless: yup, was right, see the 'Effects' tab
[05:39] <jobless> abattoir: i got it ..
[05:39] <jobless> i missed that tab in effects abattoir :(
[05:41] <excitatory> does a firefox extension exist to add rss feeds to akreggator?
[05:42] <jobless> hey abattoir, i am not able to see the changes to the panel when i hit apply immediately! but when i reboot the system i get the changes!
[05:42] <aaroncampbell> Does anyone here run dual monitors?
[05:42] <abattoir> jobless: try 'killall kicker && kicker'
[05:42] <dude_> abattoir: im back ! hehehe, its good to be back heheheh
[05:42] <abattoir> jobless: or 'dcop kicker kicker restart'
[05:42] <abattoir> dude_: :)
[05:42] <abattoir> dude_: what did you do?
[05:43] <dude_> abattoir: i just follow your instruction hehehe
[05:43] <arunkale> Hey people
[05:43] <dude_> abattoir: i missed KDE
[05:43] <arunkale> Anyone figured out how to fix the Flash bug in Firefox
[05:43] <abattoir> hi arunkale, long time no see ;)
[05:43] <arunkale> Hey abattoir :)
[05:44] <arunkale> abattoir: I'm on Edgy right now
[05:44] <arunkale> But Firefox 2 crashes everytime I open any page with Flash
[05:44] <jobless> abattoir: it says error: kicker already running and error: communication problem with kicker, it probably crashed.. and i lost the panel!!
[05:44] <abattoir> arunkale: flash 9 beta?
[05:44] <arunkale> abattoir: No, even flash 7
[05:44] <abattoir> jobless: ok, Alt+F2-> kicker
[05:45] <abattoir> jobless: you probably did what i said in the wrong order ;)
[05:45] <freewill> !aiglx
[05:45] <ubotu> AIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.
[05:45] <arunkale> abattoir: I heard someone say it was a bug in Firefox and you have to change something in the /usr/bin/firefox script
[05:45] <abattoir> arunkale: oh, don't know, i don't use firefox, sorry
[05:45] <arunkale> abattoir: what do you use?
[05:45] <abattoir> arunkale: konqueror
[05:45] <jobless> abattoir i got it back .. but wat wrong order? i typed killall kicker && kicker
[05:45] <jobless> abattoir: ok i understand
[05:46] <jobless> abattoir: && meant and right?! those were two different commands?
[05:46] <dude_> abattoir: try again? heheheh
[05:46] <abattoir> jobless: yes, the first one kills kicker, and the second one launches it if it was killed successfully
[05:46] <abattoir> dude_: heh, sure, why not?
[05:47] <dude_> abattoir: nah....
[05:47] <Galathalion> knapp: whats a GPG key?
[05:47] <jobless> abattoir :) thanks
[05:47] <jobless> !kicker
[05:47] <ubotu> kicker: desktop panel for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 1953 kB, installed size 5808 kB
[05:47] <dude_> abattoir: maybe i'll just wait for the right time hehehe
[05:48] <abattoir> jobless: 'killall kicker' and then 'kicker' does the same, as you might have guessed
[05:49] <jobless> abattoir: yes i did .. but thanks
[05:50] <xsacha> !quake
[05:50] <ubotu> Quake runs natively under linux see http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/ for details
[05:50] <dude_> abattoir: i noticed something, my nvidia driver was replaced by another vc drives
[05:50] <xsacha> !quake3
[05:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about quake3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:50] <dennister> hello again
[05:50] <abattoir> dude_: yes, when you ran dpkg-reconfigure, it actually 'reset' it
[05:50] <abattoir> dude_: you can change it back if you want
[05:51] <dude_> abattoir: how
[05:51] <abattoir> dude_: and remember to back up important files before making serious changes to them ;)
[05:51] <abattoir> dude_: you want to switch to nvidia-beta again?
[05:51] <dude_> abattoir: yes...i will
[05:51] <arunkale> abattoir: YAY I FIXED THE BUG
[05:51] <abattoir> arunkale: that's cool? you did it yourself?
[05:51] <arunkale> abattoir: of course not
[05:52] <arunkale> heh
[05:52] <dude_> abattoir: i think its not the beta driver
[05:52] <arunkale> i found it on a site
[05:52] <abattoir> arunkale: oh, nice :)
[05:52] <dude_> abattoir: nvidia version 1.5.6
[05:52] <arunkale> abattoir: i had to insert a line in one of /etc/firefox/firefoxrc
[05:52] <dennister> Q: tring to configure mplayer; have nvidia ogl drivers, should i be using vo=gl? right now there's vo=xv, but erros about not being able to parse aalib keep coming up
[05:53] <dude_> abattoir: can i apt-get install the driver
[05:53] <abattoir> !nvidia | dude_
[05:53] <ubotu> dude_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:53] <Dr_willis> dennister,  install the aalib stuff perhaps..  are they errors.. or just warnings.
[05:53] <abattoir> dude_: but remember, beryl doesn't work w/ that driver
[05:53] <abattoir> only w/ the beta
[05:53] <arunkale> yay i have a crash free fox
[05:54] <dude_> abattoir: it seems that beryl is still installed
[05:54] <abattoir> dude_: yes, it'll still be there till you remove it
[05:54] <arunkale> abattoir: how do i change my colour depth to 24 bit
[05:54] <arunkale> xserver-xorg?
[05:54] <dude_> abattoir: so i need the beta driver for beryl to run?
[05:55] <dennister> they're errors, and i tried to find the aalib in synaptic, but couldn't find them
[05:55] <abattoir> dude_: going from what gnomefreak said, yes
[05:55] <abattoir> dude_: i mean, for aiglx...
[05:55] <dude_> !nvidia-beta
[05:55] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) Beta version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm" (for x86) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[05:56] <dennister> nor could i find anything for sdl in synaptic either, and the lines in mplayer give two choices: xv or sdl:aalib
[05:57] <dennister> me bad: grammar; double negative
[05:59] <arunkale> abattoir: how do i change my colour depth from 16-bit to 24-bit
[05:59] <abattoir> arunkale: does your card support it?
[05:59] <abattoir> arunkale: you should be able to do that in system settings
[06:00] <arunkale> abattoir: in windows, i can use 32-bit true color
[06:00] <arunkale> so i guess my card supports it
[06:00] <dennister> Dr_willis: did u see my replies? they're definitely errors, but i can't find anything in synaptic for aalib or sdl, and one of the two options for vo=sdl:aalib, other is vo=sv...chose xv, but aalib errors still result, wondering if i shouldn't use gl?
[06:01] <abattoir> arunkale: it should be in the display module... do you see it?
[06:01] <aaroncampbell> I just installed Kubuntu (edgy), and I'm having some odd problems.  First, I can't seem to set it up for dual monitors.  I go to System Setting, and choose "Monitor & Display"...switch to administrator mode...choose "Second Screen", and "Dual Screen" but I still see one screen to the right, and the dropdown for positioning of the 2 screens is greyed out
[06:02] <dude_> abattoir: question
[06:02] <dennister> aaroncampbell: have u installed any proprietary video drivers yet?
[06:02] <arunkale> monitor and display
[06:02] <arunkale> i cant see colour depth
[06:02] <aaroncampbell> dennister: no
[06:02] <arunkale> only gamma settings, resolution
[06:02] <dennister> aaroncampbell: if u have nvdia card, do that first
[06:03] <aaroncampbell> dennister: ati
[06:03] <dennister> !ati
[06:03] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:03] <dennister> just make sure it's for edgy, not dapper or breezy
[06:03] <dennister> (the howto, that is)
[06:05] <sudo|fader> hi i just installed Kubuntu and i wanna log in as root how do i do this as i havent bin prompted for passwd at no time!
[06:05] <dude_> abattoir: what is this ? ---- > 'nvidia-installer must be run as root'
[06:05] <abattoir> dude_: run it w/ sudo
[06:05] <dennister> abattoir: Dr Willis must be busy, would you be able to help me with my last reply to him?
[06:05] <xsacha> sudo|fader: what's wrong with sudo?
[06:05] <abattoir> dennister: if i can yes, i'll be leaving in a while though
[06:06] <sudo|fader> nothings wrong with sudo! but not being able to log in as root gives me a feeling of not having 100% control :P
[06:06] <dennister> sudo|fader: do not login as root if u can help it, trust me
[06:06] <dude_> abattoir: You appear to be running an X server; please exit X before installing
[06:06] <abattoir> !sudo
[06:06] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[06:06] <abattoir> sudo|fader: ^^^ look at that
[06:06] <dennister> abattoir: k...i thnk its a fairly wuick answer i need
[06:06] <aaroncampbell> dennister: it doesn't say if it's for edgy or not.  But it DOES say that the Ati Radeon 9250 needs different drivers (only the 9700+ should use the fglrx driver...that mine is currently using
[06:07] <abattoir> dude_: switch to a virtual terminal, and run 'sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop' , Ctrl+Alt+F1 to do the former
[06:07] <abattoir> dennister: ask the question first :P
[06:08] <sudo|fader> thank you abattoir! that all i needed :)
[06:08] <dennister> aaroncampbell: hold on a sec: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:08] <abattoir> sudo|fader: :)
[06:09] <sudo|fader> makes it a bit easier to install and compile stuff over PuTTy ssh :)
[06:09] <xsacha> sudo? i know :)
[06:09] <dennister> abattoir: I'm definitely getting errors when i try to play an avi file in mplayer about not being able to parse aalib; but i can't find anything in synaptic for aalib or sdl, and one of the two options for vo=sdl:aalib, other is vo=sv...chose xv, but aalib errors still result, wondering if i shouldn't use gl?
[06:10] <aaroncampbell> dennister: that one says for Radeon 9500 and above (again...not for my lowly 9250)
[06:10] <xsacha> the driver before that one works for your lowly 9250
[06:10] <dennister> which vidout out (vo) should i choose? gl?
[06:10] <abattoir> dennister: i think mplayer must be compiled w/ it, if necessary... what about kaffeine?
[06:10] <dennister> i need mplayer for mythtv
[06:11] <h3sp4wn> dennister: use the directfb mplayer from the console
[06:11] <dennister> aaroncampbell: the howto also takes u to a link of cards, i believe, at least the nvdia one did...u may have to use the older driers from synaptic
[06:12] <BluesKaj> and config
[06:13] <sudo|fader> were does "lynx" by default put downloaded files?
[06:14] <dennister> h3sp4wn: nonfunctioning lirc is getting in the way of using mplayer at all in konsole
[06:14] <Dr_willis> sudo|fader,  i would guess the dir lynx was started from
[06:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:16] <h3sp4wn> dennister: I dunno why that makes any difference (keyboard works(
[06:16] <dennister> h3sp4wn: yes, i know
[06:16] <xsacha> any ideas why i get: konsole: ERROR: can not execute ./llinuxq3ademo-1.11-6.x86.gz.sh
[06:17] <xsacha> it's like it tries to run itself after i already ran it
[06:17] <sudo|fader> sigh it doesent!
[06:17] <dennister> but konsole just gives me that one and these errors...Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll
[06:20] <dennister> h3sp4wn: let's leave that one for now...remember my wacom errors whenever i try to kwrite a file from konsole? bad device=169...i have no tablet, and the last time i tried to edit that out of xorg I had to restore an old xorg file after x became nonfunctional
[06:21] <h3sp4wn> dennister: Don't remember just make sure you remove all the references
[06:21] <dennister> right away with this install i tried to remove the xorg-tablet stuff, but then it reappeared right after i rebooted
[06:21] <dennister> ok...will try again
[06:22] <xsacha> when i run quake 3 installer it says something like: Warning: "+number" syntax is depreciated or something and then closes, argh!
[06:22] <h3sp4wn> for mythtv you shouldn't need X at all
[06:22] <dennister> <--really needs an easy way to get rid of a lot of uneeded xorg stuff
[06:23] <sensei> Hey, just installed Edgy.. Where's kdevelop? o.O
[06:23] <dennister> h3sp4wn: well i tried to run it in nongraphical mode, but it said it needed X
[06:23] <h3sp4wn> dennister: mplayer ?
[06:23] <Kabal> Hi all, I'm trying to install the lastest version of klibido on Kubuntu 6.06 /KDE 3,5,5
[06:23] <Kabal> But I'm getting a dependency error.. now what?
[06:23] <dennister> no, sorry, last reply was for mythtv
[06:27] <sensei> Hm, my company kind of uses kdevelop and I need it pretty urgently :) No one knows what might have happened or if it comes into the repos soon if it's missing, so I should go source
[06:27] <abattoir> !info kdevelop
[06:27] <ubotu> kdevelop: An IDE for Unix/X11. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 7894 kB, installed size 24892 kB
[06:27] <abattoir> sensei: ^^^ it's in universe
[06:28] <abattoir> !info kdevelop dapper
[06:28] <ubotu> Package kdevelop does not exist in dapper
[06:28] <sensei> abattoir: hum, okay.. Why ?
[06:28] <sensei> !info kdevelop3 dapper
[06:28] <ubotu> kdevelop3: An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2-0ubuntu3 (dapper), package size 1218 kB, installed size 3896 kB
[06:28] <abattoir> sensei: on dapper?
[06:28] <sensei> edgy
[06:28] <sensei> !info kdevelop3 edgy
[06:28] <ubotu> kdevelop3: Dummy package for transition to kdevelop. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.3.2+dummy1 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 36 kB
[06:30] <sensei> Ah yeah, was in universe
[06:31] <honest> wireless!
[06:31] <honest> !wireless
[06:31] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[06:35] <dude_> :)
[06:36] <honest> i keep getting this error
[06:37] <honest> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[06:37] <honest> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[06:37] <honest> no update manager is open
[06:37] <honest> anyone got any ideas why?
[06:39] <voicu> check the process list
[06:39] <voicu> try ps -A| grep apt
[06:39] <voicu> if there is something still running kill it
[06:40] <voicu> maybe ps -A| grep adept
[06:41] <honest> hello?
[06:42] <dude_> abattoir: are you there? what is the command again in stopping KDE?
[06:42] <student> can I dd an entire filesystem into a hard drive ?
[06:43] <honest> Failed to fetch http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/pool/edgy-cafuego/bcm43xx/bcm43xx-firmware_1.3-1ubuntu2_all.deb  Size mismatch
[06:43] <honest> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[06:43] <honest> anyone knopw how to fix that prob?
[06:44] <student> run apt-get update ?
[06:44] <honest> tried
[06:44] <honest> still does the same thing
[06:44] <student> honest: you could just get the deb yourself
[06:45] <honest> student: lol i only installed it today from the site
[06:45] <student> the deb?
[06:50] <jonathan__> d
[06:50] <instructor> can meebo be used with Konqueror?
[06:52] <student> can I dd an entire filesystem into a hard drive ?
[06:52] <Kubu> hello
[06:53] <Kubu> does anyone know the best p2p client for linux
[06:53] <honest_> azurues?
[06:53] <Kubu> but its bittorrent client, isnt it?
[06:53] <Kubu> do you know a client that works in the gnutella network
[06:53] <Kubu> and is not limewire/frostwire
[06:53] <student> ktorrent :)
[06:54] <student> bashment
[06:54] <Kubu> ktorrent works in the gnutella network?
[06:54] <student> Oh no you said best p2p :)
[06:55] <student> !p2p
[06:55] <ubotu> Conventional P2P clients: Limewire/GTK-Gnutella/Frostwire (Gnutella Network).  -  BitTorrent: see !torrent  -  Direct connect: try valknut.  -  Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information.
[06:57] <pcube> is there a down load manager in linux with stop,resume support?
[06:58] <v3ctor> kget
[06:59] <pcube> thnx v3ctor
[06:59] <v3ctor> np
[07:00] <honest_> i've tried installing wifi-radar a number of times, but when i click the icon nothing happens
[07:00] <honest_> anyone got any iudeas?
[07:00] <Homer> err DON'T FORGET TO VOTE (DEMOCRAT)
[07:00] <Homer> mt
[07:00] <honest_> lol what?
[07:00] <Homer> sry :)
[07:01] <sc0tt> CNN -- Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is stepping down, sources tell CNN.
[07:01] <sc0tt> >:D
[07:01] <student> he can go lower?
[07:01] <sc0tt> haha
[07:01] <sc0tt> ^5
[07:02] <student> Anyway how does dump work? I can dump a filesystem to a file?
[07:02] <honest_> sc0tt: yup, just heard, not that it really bothers me
[07:02] <student>  how is that different from dd ?
[07:03] <v3ctor> student: dump will only dump actual data
[07:03] <student> So it's smaller?
[07:03] <student> and faster hopefully?
[07:03] <v3ctor> dd will clone filesystem
[07:03] <v3ctor> should be..don't quote me
[07:03] <student> Ok I'm about to rash a drive to test it out
[07:04] <student> trash  even
[07:18] <jobless> !ubotu
[07:18] <jobless> !kubuntu
[07:18] <ubotu> Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE, the K Desktop Environment, instead of Gnome. For more info see http://kubuntu.org  -  For support: #kubuntu  -  To install from Ubuntu: "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop"
[07:19] <[cf] nightrid3r> !ubuntu
[07:19] <ubotu> Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome
[07:20] <sudo|fader> how do i list users added to kubuntu?
[07:21] <[cf] nightrid3r> sudo|fader: all users can be found in /etc/password uncludeing system users
[07:22] <eaglehawk> hello everybody
[07:22] <Gecko> greetings
[07:23] <eaglehawk> is there anybody who installed the beryl on edgy
[07:24] <eaglehawk> anybody with luck to get beryl working
[07:24] <B-Minus> hello
[07:25] <student> !beryl
[07:25] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[07:25] <B-Minus> what is that prog called you can send a link to someone with mail and if they click it they can take over your pc
[07:25] <B-Minus> in browser
[07:25] <Gecko> B-Minus: krfb
[07:26] <B-Minus> Gecko: does that excist in windows too ? my girlfriend wants that i look with her
[07:26] <Gecko> B-Minus: windows has other options. It has both remote desktop sharing, and the option with invitations is available through msn messenger
[07:27] <fdoving> B-Minus: you can also install tightvnc on windows.
[07:27] <B-Minus> hmm
[07:27] <honest_> damn, cnn, bush is a blubering mess
[07:28] <Gecko> honest_: Is it worth my time to tune my tv to see cnn?
[07:28] <B-Minus> fdoving: so she needs to install the server and i the client ?
[07:28] <Gecko> yeah
[07:28] <honest_> lol for comedy value maybe ; _)
[07:28] <fdoving> B-Minus: yes.
[07:33] <Gecko> honest_: summary: george w. is using a lot of words to say absolutely nothing
[07:33] <honest_> Gecko: do u think he is ill, he is making no sense and stuttering like a 12 years doing his/her first presentation
[07:34] <Gecko> honest_: quite possibly
[07:37] <amule__> Evening, someone here with knowledge on how to get orinoco drivers to work under (k)ubuntu? ( speedtouch 120g )
[07:38] <Gecko> honest_: English might not be my first language, but I consider myself near-fluent, and I still don't get a word of what bush is saying...
[07:38] <trappist> Gecko: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:38] <trappist> err #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:38] <magicmike> Gecko: Neither does he.
[07:38] <v3ctor> please take the usless politcal banter to offtopic channel
[07:38] <trappist> magicmike: you too.
[07:39] <honest_> Gecko: lol... English is my first language, yet i'm not the "Commandering Chief" of the US ; )
[07:39] <magicmike> Hey a trappist. Is that a terrorist in training?
[07:39] <Gecko> honest_: let's take it on #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:43] <B-Minus> fdoving: i tried tightvnc on my local network that worked
[07:44] <B-Minus> but when i fill in the internet ip address i get : xtightvncviewer: ConnectToTcpAddr: connect: Connection refused
[07:44] <B-Minus> Unable to connect to VNC server
[07:44] <honest_> i just wanna try something which may kill xserver, is there a command to bring it back into safemode if i do?
[07:45] <Gecko> B-Minus: she might behind a firewall
[07:45] <B-Minus> damn
[07:46] <honest_> hello?
[07:46] <honest_> safe mode?
[07:47] <magicmike> It's a windows thang.
[07:47] <wedgeV> how do i create groups of contacts in kmail?
[07:49] <ToyMan> anyone else have a problem with thier edgy upgrade today?
[07:49] <ToyMan> just did an apt-get upgrade and the box won't start x on reboot...
[07:50] <Gecko> Does anyone know how I can configure kde to use all those fancy new multimedia keys my new keyboard has?
[07:51] <gupta> My midnight-commander looks garbled: http://h1.ripway.com/chesss/mc.png
[07:51] <gupta> Probably because i ws using localepurge
[07:51] <gupta> anyway to fix the damage?
[07:54] <khirr> some repository for kmess?
[07:57] <trappist> gupta: what terminal emulator do you use
[07:57] <gupta> mrxvt
[07:58] <trappist> how does mc look in konsole
[07:58] <gupta> trappist: it looks fine there
[07:58] <gupta> so its mrxvt issue
[07:58] <gupta> an
[07:58] <trappist> gupta: maybe - echo $TERM
[08:00] <gupta>  xterm
[08:00] <trappist> gupta: might try other values like vt100, linux, etc.  I'm pretty sure it's a termcap issue.
[08:00] <msoeken> Hi, someone here you manages the kubuntu homepage?
[08:00] <trappist> gupta: my stuff looks like that in Eterm unless I expert TERM=Eterm
[08:01] <gupta> trappist: trying..
[08:01] <sudo|fader> kan anyone help me install NX server on kubuntu?
[08:02] <trappist> s/expert/export/
[08:02] <msoeken> I think in announcement http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.2.php it should be mentioned that a new user should be used to login into the KDE 4 session
[08:02] <msoeken> Today I tried and lost all my stored passwords from kdewallet
[08:02] <trappist> msoeken: might mention that on #kde-devel
[08:03] <trappist> msoeken: err I mean #kubuntu-devel
[08:03] <msoeken> trappist: ok
[08:03] <dude_> need some help guys, "couldnt initialize openGL"
[08:04] <trappist> dude_: what video card
[08:04] <dude_> nVidia
[08:04] <dude_> trappist: nVidia
[08:04] <trappist> dude_: glxinfo | grep rendering
[08:05] <dude_> trappist: Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
[08:06] <trappist> dude_: lsmod | grep ^nv
[08:07] <soulrider> !java
[08:07] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:08] <aRenato> ciao
[08:12] <MRMorefield-ft> how to check my videocard acceleration?
[08:12] <MRMorefield-ft> if it works properly
[08:18] <BonBonTheJon> any one else having problems with Edgy taking a long time to load konqueror
[08:24] <ahmed> !Nvidia
[08:24] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:26] <ahmed> !mp3
[08:26] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:28] <ahmed> can anybdy post his source.list
[08:31] <ahmed> !repository
[08:31] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:35] <ahmed> !xgl
[08:35] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:38] <ahmed> !mp3
[08:38] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:38] <ubuntu__> !KDE
[08:39] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[08:39] <ubuntu__> !GNOME
[08:39] <ubotu> gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop.
[08:43] <frank_> huhu
[08:43] <frank_> 
[08:44] <frank_> kann mir jemand helfen ?
[08:47] <zorglu_> !de
[08:47] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:48] <ruedi> yesterday, i asked for ati drivers, and i have installed them, but i have reinstalled Kubuntu, because i had trubles with it, and now im searching for the HowTo from yesterday
[08:48] <zorglu_> !ati
[08:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:48] <zorglu_> it was this one ?
[08:49] <ruedi> nope
[08:49] <ruedi> it was in a wiki, i know only the stylo of the site... it was brown
[08:49] <zorglu_> too bad this is the only one i got :)
[08:50] <zorglu_> !nvidia
[08:50] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:50] <zorglu_> yep all pointing to this page
[08:51] <ruedi> i try this tutorail
[08:51] <khirr> !repository
[08:51] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:51] <Lunar_Raven> !poop
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about poop - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:52] <MRMorefield-ft> i tried this for enabling my glx :
[08:52] <MRMorefield-ft> wilman@wilman-desktop:~$ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[08:52] <MRMorefield-ft> Password:
[08:52] <MRMorefield-ft> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[08:52] <MRMorefield-ft> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[08:52] <markelhas> hi ppl
[08:52] <freechelmi_> ? french
[08:52] <zorglu_> !fr
[08:52] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:52] <freechelmi_> thx
[08:52] <MRMorefield-ft> how do i instal those kernel drivers
[08:53] <MRMorefield-ft> or how can i check if they are already there
[08:53] <zorglu_> !nvidia | MRMorefield-ft
[08:53] <ubotu> MRMorefield-ft: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:53] <zorglu_> i guess they talk about those drivers
[08:53] <MRMorefield-ft> thx
[08:53] <MRMorefield-ft> i couldnt find that one
[08:54] <markelhas> any one have tried to install one HP Officejet 5510 All-in-One in kubuntu!?
[08:54] <freechelmi_> HP is well supported using HPLIP
[08:54] <freechelmi_> usually
[08:55] <markelhas> freechelmi_: HPLIP already in kubuntu? or should i ddl it?
[08:55] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: should be in the repo's , its pretty standard
[08:55] <khirr> some repositiry for JRE?
[08:55] <ruedi> !repostitory
[08:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about repostitory - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <ruedi> !repository
[08:56] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:56] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: oki i'm preparing to remove all windows from my pcs
[08:56] <khirr> !jre
[08:56] <markelhas> last one the desktop
[08:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jre - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:56] <khirr> !java
[08:56] <zorglu_> !java
[08:56] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[08:57] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: be prepared for some thinkering if u want to use linux for multimedia stuff
[08:59] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: hummm like what!?
[08:59] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: i've looking if i can also use my UDMA133 IDE PCI Card.
[08:59] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: not all media formats are (well) supported under linux
[08:59] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: spec's ?
[08:59] <jobless> guys i am having problems installing kubuntu on dell xps 700 system .. when i select the option to start or install .. i get only the blinking cursor and the installation is stuck there ..!
[08:59] <ruedi> !C++
[09:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about C++ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:00] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: http://www.qtec.info/service/support/drivers.htm?artnr=12995
[09:00] <ankfoot> Hi there, I have this neat little problem when trying to use my dvd-burner, a NEC3540A on kubuntu..
[09:00] <ankfoot> used it to install the system, no problem
[09:00] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: no driver reference for linux :(
[09:00] <ankfoot> but now it simply won't mount...
[09:01] <ankfoot> tried looking in startup logs, looking for the unit, but no success, it's gone..
[09:01] <khirr> 1kmess
[09:01] <khirr> !kmess
[09:01] <ubotu> kmess: Instant messenger to use MSN on KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1067 kB, installed size 2620 kB
[09:02] <khirr> is there kmess in dapper?
[09:02] <ankfoot> the thing worked flawlessly when i tried ubuntu som days ago, found the dvd, even burned an iso with it..
[09:02] <khirr> is there kmess for dapper?
[09:02] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: this will be an experiment as no chip info is available
[09:03] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: that's a problem
[09:03] <jobless> guys i am having problems installing kubuntu on dell xps 700 system .. when i select the option to start or install .. i get only the blinking cursor and the installation is stuck there ..!
[09:03] <jobless> can somebody help?
[09:03] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: cause i've cd-rw ad dvd-rw in that pci card :(
[09:03] <ruedi> thy for the HowTo it works fine :)
[09:04] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: you'll find out very soon, boot the live cd and do lspci to see if the card shows up, then do demsg to see what your kernel thinks about the card, these should match to work
[09:04] <trappist> khirr: it's in the universe repo, according to ubotu
[09:04] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: dmesg :)
[09:05] <ruedi> !mp3
[09:05] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:05] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: oki going to try to install hp and check if the pci card works
[09:05] <ruedi> !firefox
[09:05] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[09:05] <markelhas> before install on the hd
[09:05] <[cf] nightrid3r> ok
[09:06] <Alan_New> !kaffeine
[09:06] <ubotu> kaffeine: versatile media player for KDE 3. In component main, is optional. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 2160 kB, installed size 5868 kB
[09:06] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: right now  i can't see the printer that is shared in windows xp in my laptop(kubuntu)
[09:07] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: should i do something special to add printer!?
[09:07] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: make sure your box has the same username in the windows box to make shareing easyer
[09:08] <jobless> guys i am having problems installing kubuntu on dell xps 700 system .. when i select the option to start or install .. i get only the blinking cursor and the installation is stuck there ..!
[09:08] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: can't follow :(
[09:08] <knapp> How do I make the green Adept Notifier icon dock in the systray?
[09:08] <jobless> sorry for repeating the post ..
[09:08] <knapp> How do I make the green Adept Notifier icon dock in the systray instead of floating in the top right corner?
[09:09] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: did you put administrator password in windows when you installed it
[09:10] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: yes, but i make scan but nothing there :(
[09:10] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: but the problem i think is on the xp machine
[09:11] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: can you 'see' the windows pc
[09:11] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: cause i also can't see the share folders there
[09:11] <thill2708> what version of qt is standard in kubuntu now?
[09:11] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: i can see it but when try to explorer got error
[09:11] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: did you check the shareing and security permissions on the win box
[09:11] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: but my wife laptop windows xp i can see the shared folders
[09:12] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: so i think the problem is on the deskpot (xp) machine
[09:12] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: try putting the winbox ip in the search
[09:12] <markelhas> oki
[09:13] <jobless> !install
[09:13] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[09:13] <thill2708> !qt
[09:13] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[09:13] <thill2708> ah
[09:13] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: only workgroup but no pcs there
[09:13] <thill2708> anyone know when kubuntu will upgrade to 4?
[09:14] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: did you put the workgroup in the linux box in CAPITALS
[09:14] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: YES
[09:14] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: sorry the caps
[09:15] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: then the problem is probably on the windows site
[09:15] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: i've input the workgroup :P
[09:15] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: yaps i think so
[09:15] <parker_> huh, is this channel linked with the freenode one or something?
[09:15] <parker`> nvm I see that it is. :)
[09:15] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: but in xp machines i can see the printer and share folders
[09:15] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: very strange
[09:15] <jobless> guys where would i find the boot promt?
[09:16] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: it could help to also install the samba server package
[09:17] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: when a try to explore my samba folder i can see my work group and machine, but error when trying to see it
[09:17] <jobless> guys where would i find the boot promt?
[09:17] <NeonLightning> gstreamer is needed to burn audio cd's out of mp3's in k3b right?
[09:17] <Kumaro> Hi you all
[09:17] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: but i think my samba ins working cause i can see my wife laptop shares
[09:17] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: can you see your linux box from windows
[09:18] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: didn't try it
[09:18] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: going to check it
[09:19] <khirr> what is the command to install java since konsole?
[09:19] <ruedi> !tar.gz
[09:19] <ubotu> Files with extensions .tar, .gz, .tgz, .zip, .bz2, .7z, .ace and other archive file formats can be opened with ark - also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression
[09:20] <[cf] nightrid3r> !java khirr
[09:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about java khirr - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:20] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: nopes
[09:20] <khirr> !java
[09:20] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:20] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: no machines there
[09:20] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: ping the linux box from windows
[09:20] <khirr> i'm installing gtom adept...but is in 28%....
[09:20] <khirr> no  more
[09:20] <ruedi> hem, what must i do with tar.gz files? i have downloaded the new firefox in tar.gz
[09:20] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: maybe i should config samba to be in my workgroup!
[09:21] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: ofcourse :)
[09:21] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: :P
[09:22] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: ping ok
[09:22] <khirr> how can i update the repository since konsole?
[09:22] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: ok so at least the network is ok :)
[09:22] <macdo_> my external usb harddrive isn't being recognised after upgrade to 6.10
[09:22] <macdo_> any ideas?
[09:22] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: i think i've config samba and put my workgroup. i think
[09:23] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: LOL
[09:23] <jobless> !pnpbios
[09:23] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pnpbios - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:23] <khirr> ???
[09:23] <macdo_> khirr: sudo apt-get update
[09:23] <caseyomah> How do I change a user's default X Window Manager?
[09:24] <[cf] nightrid3r> khirr: edit /etc/apt/resources.list
[09:25] <ruedi> !mp3
[09:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:25] <jobless> guys i am having problems installing kubuntu on dell xps 700 system .. when i select the option to start or install .. i get only the blinking cursor and the installation is stuck there ..!
[09:25] <Kumaro> Hi ubuntu_
[09:25] <knapp> Can someone assist me in installing the latest Nvidia drivers?
[09:26] <phlegyas> he heeeeeeeeeeeeeey :) hellooooooooooooo. I managed. wow :)
[09:26] <knapp> I am getting an error when installing them, the error is this: "Unable to find the kernel source tree for the current running kernel..."
[09:26] <[cf] nightrid3r> knapp: !nvidia
[09:26] <Kumaro> Hi phlegyas
[09:26] <ruedi> !nvidia | knapp
[09:26] <ubotu> knapp: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[09:26] <phlegyas> Is there anyone more newbie than I am ???????????????? :)
[09:26] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: the only way to config samba is editing smb.cfg?
[09:26] <phlegyas> thought not :)
[09:26] <[cf] nightrid3r> phlegyas: probably :)
[09:26] <Kumaro> I supose me
[09:26] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: *conf
[09:26] <phlegyas> i bet theres no one nightrider :D
[09:27] <Kumaro> phlegyas phlegyas phlegyas phlegyas phlegyas
[09:27] <khirr> how can i kill one procces since konsole?
[09:27] <phlegyas> hey kumaroooooooooooooo
[09:27] <phlegyas> hey this AMOR thing is so funnyyyyyyyyyyyyy hehehehehehe
[09:27] <Kumaro> So you'r beginner also?
[09:27] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: there are some samba packages that let you config in a gui
[09:27] <phlegyas> Im THE beginner Kumaro
[09:27] <phlegyas> just installed Kubuntu last night.
[09:28] <phlegyas> still the only thing i managed to get running is my Kopete :)
[09:28] <MRMorefield-ft> :p
[09:28] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: where
[09:28] <Kumaro> I've installed since some weeks but I'm not better
[09:28] <MRMorefield-ft> does your webcam work?
[09:28] <phlegyas> oh and Amor hahahaha
[09:28] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: names of them plz to ddl them
[09:28] <MRMorefield-ft> amor:P hahah
[09:28] <Kumaro> What Amor
[09:28] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: looking them up
[09:28] <Kumaro> ??
[09:28] <phlegyas> there a little penguin digging holes on my desktop hahahaha he s funny i m telling you :P
[09:28] <phlegyas> its a little pet KUMARO. a penguin hahaha
[09:28] <phlegyas> hes funny :)
[09:29] <Kumaro> Ok
[09:29] <phlegyas> but that just about it.
[09:29] <Kumaro> I've not try yet
[09:29] <phlegyas> i havent managed to do anthing esle
[09:29] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: oki sorry
[09:29] <phlegyas> hey can I ask anyoone? Is there for kde something equivalent to kazaa lite mega codec pack ?????????????
[09:29] <Kumaro> Did you install Kubuntu you alone ?
[09:29] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: in systemconfig / shareing
[09:30] <phlegyas> yeah kumaro i did. was not big deal. its so easy these days.
[09:30] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: its in your menu
[09:30] <phlegyas> i still remember my first attempt to install suse 3 years ago. damn that was hard.
[09:30] <phlegyas> soooooooooooooooooooo any codec pack for KDE?
[09:30] <phlegyas> anyone?
[09:30] <phlegyas> :)
[09:30] <Kumaro> Do you have with Windows or stand alone?
[09:30] <bLaZeD> !restricted | phlegyas
[09:30] <ubotu> phlegyas: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:31] <phlegyas> stand alone Kumaro cause if I had kept my MS Id never run kubuntu ... hehehe i know me i like easy things
[09:31] <phlegyas> UBOTU thanks a bunch mate :D
[09:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks a bunch mate :D - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:31] <phlegyas> oi ... was that a bot ?
[09:31] <phlegyas> hahahah nice nice
[09:31] <Kumaro> I've it also in stand alone, but I do not kwno too much
[09:32] <phlegyas> well at least the MS key combinations work
[09:32] <phlegyas> that great
[09:32] <Kumaro> A bot is a machine who writes messages automaticaly, in a human like but with no sense
[09:32] <phlegyas> like alt + tab and stuff.
[09:32] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: smb4k is a graphical network browser, that might also help you
[09:32] <phlegyas> but really i loved that kopete thing. it amazing :)
[09:33] <phlegyas> soooooooooooooo when did you install it Kumaro ?
[09:33] <khirr> how can i kill on process since Konsole?
[09:33] <Kumaro> I think three weeks ago!
[09:33] <[cf] nightrid3r> khirr: kill $process-id
[09:34] <trappist> killermach_: you mean kill all konsole processes?
[09:34] <trappist> err
[09:34] <phlegyas> three weeks? ohhhhhhhhhh you re an oldieeeeeeeeeeeeee
[09:34] <trappist> khirr: you mean kill all konsole processes?
[09:34] <[cf] nightrid3r> khirr: to find the process-id do ps aux | grep $procname
[09:34] <khirr> no no
[09:34] <ruedi> !mp3
[09:34] <khirr> ?
[09:34] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:34] <trappist> [cf] nightrid3r: or just killall procname
[09:34] <phlegyas> so anyways boys and girls... Phlegyas is beat. I should get going to get my Zs.
[09:34] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: no pc in that app
[09:35] <khirr> i wanna kill adept process
[09:35] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: hmmm
[09:35] <khirr> what should i write?
[09:35] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: also didn't find any place to put my workgroup
[09:35] <Kumaro> What's Zs ?
[09:35] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: smb4k is a graphical network browser, that might also help you
[09:35] <Kumaro> ??
[09:35] <phlegyas> ummmm falling asleep Kumaro.
[09:35] <Kumaro> I don't really know
[09:35] <student> khirr: sudo killall adept
[09:35] <phlegyas> the Zs ... as in snoring
[09:35] <Kumaro> OK
[09:35] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: nothing
[09:36] <phlegyas> so see you all soon I hope. Take good care now
[09:36] <Kumaro> You too
[09:36] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: then i'm affraid i cant help you, i'm doing this from memory, i haven't run windows for the last 5 years :)
[09:37] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: :)
[09:37] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: i think the problem is on xp machine
[09:37] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: going to check wth live cd my pci card and printer
[09:38] <markelhas> c u
[09:38] <[cf] nightrid3r> markelhas: you could try man smbmount on the cli
[09:41] <khirr> how can i kill all mi process?
[09:41] <[cf] nightrid3r> khirr: halt
[09:41] <CVirus> hehe
[09:45] <jobless> guys .. the live cd for edgy freezes when i hit start or install .. theres a blinking cursor and thats it .. nothing happens .. i am using dell xps 700
[09:45] <jobless> can somebody help?
[09:46] <lupine_85> try the alternate cd instead?
[09:46] <lupine_85> or boot in safe graphics mode?
[09:46] <ubuntu__> I am testing the live cd of kubuntu
[09:47] <ubuntu__> looks nice
[09:47] <systest> jobless: have you tried "check cd for defects" ?
[09:48] <Kumaro> Hi stecus.
[09:48] <stecus> hello Kumaro
[09:48] <Kumaro> Newbie like me ?
[09:48] <stecus> yep
[09:48] <stecus> I am testing a live cd of Kubuntu
[09:49] <stecus> It looks nice
[09:49] <Kumaro> I've installed it !
[09:49] <Kumaro> Something like three weeks ago !
[09:49] <scion> hello all
[09:49] <stecus> how is your experience with it
[09:49] <Kumaro> Hello scion
[09:49] <stecus> hello scion
[09:49] <Kumaro> Quite nice !
[09:50] <NeonLightning> how do i burn audio cd's with mp3's in k3b?
[09:50] <Kumaro> I've not gottent any trouble yet
[09:50] <stecus> Where are you from Kumaro?
[09:50] <scion> how come i have to restart X every time I edit my ~/.Xdefaults in order to see changes
[09:50] <Kumaro> I'm from Venezuela but living in France
[09:51] <Hawkwind> NeonLightning: You need libk3b2-mp3 installed
[09:51] <scion> in gentoo it was a matter of closing the aterm window and he presto!
[09:51] <stecus> world citezen then. I am from Belgium
[09:52] <Kumaro> So you speak french also
[09:52] <scion> any takers?
[09:52] <caseyomah> NeonLightning: libk3b2-mp3 will autoconvert MP3 to audio when dropped onto an audio CD project.
[09:52] <stecus> a petit peu.I got to go. Maybe until next time. Grettings all
[09:52] <Galathalion> my adept upgrade is not responding. what should i do?
[09:53] <h3sp4wn> Galathalion: upgrading between edgy and dapper with adept ?
[09:53] <systest> anyone having problems with /bin/sh in edgy?
[09:53] <Galathalion> h3sp4wn: no?
[09:53] <scion> if you close the adept window you will probably get database locked error
[09:54] <Kumaro> OK
[09:54] <h3sp4wn> Galathalion: So what are you upgrading ?
[09:54] <Kumaro> Well I leave you
[09:54] <Galathalion> h3sp4wn: well i dont know.. its the adept upgrader.. i dunno what its for. o_O
[09:55] <h3sp4wn> Galathalion: Do you need adept ?
[09:55] <Galathalion> h3sp4wn: what do you meen?
[09:55] <h3sp4wn> Galathalion: Do you use it ?
[09:55] <Galathalion> h3sp4wn: yes
[09:55] <scion> you can use command "sudo apt-get update"
[09:56] <Galathalion> scion: whats the difference?
[09:56] <h3sp4wn> Galathalion: You could use aptitude instead (its the best of the bunch)
[09:56] <scion> no GUI, command line is always faster
[09:56] <Hawkwind> Best of the bunch is a matter of a personal opinion really
[09:57] <Hawkwind> systest: Since edgy uses dash instead of bash by default now, it's a known problem
[09:57] <Galathalion> well i did the command before and after that the GUI-thingy wanted to upgrade as well but after a while it stopped working
[09:57] <scion> I'm not really a fan of GUI frontends at all!
[09:57] <h3sp4wn> aptitude has the most powerful syntax
[09:57] <systest> Hawkwind: thanks, didn't realize 6.06 was using bash for /bin/sh
[09:58] <khirr> someone here use Kubuntu AMD 64 bits version?
[09:58] <khirr> !java
[09:58] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:58] <khirr> ?
[09:58] <scion> i tried Synaptic before and kinda liked it
[09:58] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Again, that's personal opinion really
[09:58] <h3sp4wn> aptitude search \linux~nimage~i
[09:58] <h3sp4wn> the equivalent apt-get / apt-cache version is much longer
[09:58] <Hawkwind> Not everyone is going to agree with that statement, as some will feel apt-get is far more superior and others will feel other things are far more superior
[09:59] <scion> personal preference
[09:59] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: If they can provide reasons why then fine
[09:59] <scion> apt-get all the way... personally
[10:00] <Galathalion> must be some kind of bug or something.. i did the command-update but the icon is still there o_O
[10:00] <khirr> someone here use AMD 64 bits version?
[10:00] <h3sp4wn> scion: Can't see any advantages to apt-get over aptitude other than support for source and build-dep
[10:00] <h3sp4wn> scion: What are they ?
[10:01] <scion> so can anyone help with my lil aterm issue
[10:01] <ibert> hey! What's your favourite terminal-program for your k-desktop?
[10:01] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Again, it's a matter of personal opinion and choice.  You can't force aptitude on someone, just like you can't force apt-get.  No need in dragging that conversation/battle on
[10:02] <leonxyr> Someone tell me if this makes sense.  I have 20 identical computers.  They need to dualboot both WinXP and Kubuntu.  I am thinking of just using Norton Ghost to create an image.  Others have said to preseed, but doesnt imaging make more sense?
[10:03] <cyberquiet> hi, I have a problem. I can't set module parameters via sysfs, is there an alternative way? thanks
[10:05] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: Chosing something blindly without testing the alternatives is pretty stupid if you ask me
[10:05] <edgar> alguien me puede ayudar repositorios
[10:05] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: the raid was ok, everything oki
[10:06] <Zaire> can someone tell me why my screen size is at 640x480 when I shut it down lastnight at 1280x1024 -_-
[10:06] <scion> !es | edgar
[10:06] <ubotu> edgar: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[10:06] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Who said anything about not testing other options ?  People use what *they* like and what *they* feel comfortable with.  Just because you like aptitude doesn't mean the rest of the world should or has to use it
[10:06] <Zaire> and I can't change the res for some reason
[10:06] <markelhas> [cf] nightrid3r: but when installing the printer got a error in the display on test print page
[10:06] <markelhas> !pt
[10:06] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[10:06] <LockUp> I need a free program to export DOC or ODT documents to PDF/X-1a. Where can I find it?
[10:06] <scion> Zaire: that will be in your xorg.conf file
[10:07] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: *they* haven't provided any compeling reason to use apt-get (and I am open to using it if there is good reason)
[10:07] <Zaire> yea and why would it be that when I haven't gone near it since my install
[10:07] <scion> dunno
[10:07] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: Because it's what *they* like and what *they* are comfortable with.  It works for them.  Again, you are beating a dead bush.  Let them use what they want, not what you say they must use
[10:08] <markelhas> did some one installed on hp 5510 on kubuntu?
[10:08] <Hawkwind> I find apt-get works, and is quick and efficient.  I don't need to use something I don't like or that I don't find as comfortable to use as apt-get.  Linux is about choice and that's my choice, as it is for everyone who uses Linux
[10:08] <scion> Zaire: do a "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and have a look at the listed resolutions
[10:09] <LeonThePunisher> who can help me with tv-out?
[10:09] <scion> Zaire: press Alt+F2 first
[10:09] <scion> :P
[10:09] <LeonThePunisher> who can kiss my ass?
[10:09] <Hawkwind> LeonThePunisher: No need for that
[10:09] <Zaire> ummmm Im looking at it right now and where the hell did my screen res settings go
[10:10] <scion> :/
[10:12] <h3sp4wn> Zaire: You could put a modeline in to force that resolution
[10:13] <Zaire> I shouldn't have to...all I did was shutdown my computer lastnight and turn it back on today how does this happen
[10:13] <scion> Zaire: heres a sample one - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30682/
[10:14] <h3sp4wn> Zaire: or try Xorg -probeonly
[10:14] <sudo|fader> hi! how does one go about giving an FTP user upload access?
[10:14] <scion> even better!
[10:14] <h3sp4wn> Zaire: Should give you an idea what is wrong (stop kdm first)
[10:14] <h3sp4wn> sudo|fader: anonymous ftp or ?
[10:15] <h3sp4wn> sudo|fader: usually a user has access to its home directory with ftp by default
[10:15] <Zaire> I think i'll just use my servers xorg it will be easier to fix
[10:16] <h3sp4wn> sudo|fader: you don't mention much information
[10:16] <h3sp4wn> sudo|fader: you can use a suitable umask and groups (if its to somewhere else) - personally I would use proftpd but there are other options
[10:17] <h3sp4wn> are the feisty repos open shortly ?
[10:18] <harmental> hi everybody..
[10:18] <DivineH> Hello all
[10:18] <DivineH> Anyone here handle kinda of a odd question?
[10:19] <harmental> since i upgraded to edgy i cant copy copy files (that were already in my box) which use special characters (  )
[10:19] <harmental> any ideas?
[10:19] <h3sp4wn> harmental: use \
[10:20] <DivineH> Trying to make basicly a internet kiosk livecd out of Kubuntu and I read through all the how tos.. but I cant figure out how to auto start an appication like opera on the startup of the livecd
[10:20] <h3sp4wn> harmental: i.e cp \~whatever\"
[10:20] <DivineH> so as soon as kde kicks off it auto starts opera
[10:21] <h3sp4wn> DivineH: Why do you need kde ?
[10:21] <markelhas> ppl any tips installing hp 5510!?
[10:21] <h3sp4wn> DivineH: If it is just to run one browser - why not just run it full screen without a window manager
[10:22] <harmental> h3sp4wn: actually im using krusader and konqueror....
[10:22] <DivineH> I don't I guess I could just use X or something.. I had the kubuntu live laying around and only have a t1 to download with at the office :-)
[10:22] <h3sp4wn> harmental: No idea
[10:22] <leonxyr> DivineH: I'd almost say do a shell script to execute opera at boot up.
[10:23] <harmental> i get: "Could not make folder /my folder
[10:23] <h3sp4wn> DivineH: You could do that from .Xsession
[10:23] <h3sp4wn> harmental: If you want to make a folder in / you have to use sudo
[10:23] <DivineH> not a bad idea.. thank you for the info I will start looking in that direction
[10:24] <harmental> actually its an external drive...and it works fine w/folders not using special chars
[10:25] <h3sp4wn> DivineH: You can use vtopen - to open a specific vt
[10:25] <h3sp4wn> DivineH: And run xinit as that user from the script and just start everything as you want from .xinitrc
[10:26] <h3sp4wn> DivineH: I would say its much easier to do if you avoid kdm (but probably there is a way to do it with kdm)
[10:26] <grayman> greetings
[10:26] <DivineH> so I just need to strip kde out of the livecd and just you x.. that will work cool
[10:27] <grayman> why do archive.ubuntu.com returns a ping for ip 1.0.0.0?
[10:27] <grayman> i cant update my repository
[10:27] <DivineH> ubuntu was the only distro I could track down in the office that would work on a ICH8 motherboard thats why I was working with it
[10:27] <h3sp4wn> DivineH: You could even use kde still but just start opera first (opera & for example) then run exec /usr/bin/startkde
[10:28] <DivineH> whats the default user on the livecd?
[10:28] <h3sp4wn> DivineH: ubuntu (I believe)
[10:28] <ubuntu_> .
[10:28] <grayman> ok it works now
[10:28] <grayman> strange
[10:28] <DivineH> thanks guys you been a big help..
[10:29] <ozzicle> Well I keep getting that DHCPDISCOVER message scrolling with I run dhclient, only my connection is fine (I can irc), it keeps switching the dns servers to something local like 192, so I switch them back to my ISP's and it works fine, but it seems to autoswitch them back to the local ones
[10:29] <h3sp4wn> ozzicle: fix your local dns server
[10:30] <ozzicle> There is no local dns server
[10:30] <ozzicle> :/
[10:30] <fdoving> ozzicle: use prepend in dhclient.conf
[10:30] <h3sp4wn> ozzicle: Are you using a router ?
[10:30] <ozzicle> I have two connections, one is, the other isn't
[10:30] <ozzicle> Both are getting the same problem
[10:30] <ozzicle> I think it started the same time I installed vmware
[10:31] <fdoving> ozzicle: in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf - add 'supersede domain-name-servers ip.of.dns.server;'
[10:31] <h3sp4wn> ozzicle: change the dhcp settings on the router to give you the isp dns servers
[10:31] <ozzicle> h3sp4wn, it's set to obtain them automatically
[10:31] <ozzicle> fdoving, I'd prefer not setting it statically
[10:31] <h3sp4wn> ozzicle: Well specify them specifically
[10:31] <ozzicle> :/
[10:31] <h3sp4wn> ozzicle: Or try upgrading the firmware
[10:32] <cosmint> please can anyone reccomend a good ftp client for kde ?
[10:32] <ozzicle> But it's not a router issue.
[10:32] <ozzicle> Since all the other machines on the network are fine.
[10:32] <mia> hi all, what do i ahve to do to be able to play xvids and divxs in kubuntu?  imk not finding any codecs in my repos
[10:32] <cosmint> except for kasablanca or kftp
[10:33] <h3sp4wn> ozzicle: All other machines being windows machines ? if it works with windows it doesn't mean it works properly
[10:33] <ozzicle> No, linux machines as well
[10:33] <ozzicle> But they're all dapper
[10:33] <ozzicle> This was the first one I moved to edgy
[10:33] <mia> im using amd64.  is that why i dont have libxine-extracodecs
[10:34] <h3sp4wn> Well this is probably some of the edgyness which was to be expected (according to the initial release spec)
[10:35] <ozzicle> But this just started happening :-/
[10:35] <ozzicle> It was running fine for a few days
[10:35] <thill2708> anyone know when kubuntu will upgrade to 4?
[10:35] <thill2708> er, qt4, that is
[10:35] <ozzicle> I think vmware b0rked it tbh
[10:35] <ozzicle> :/
[10:36] <markelhas> did some one installed on hp 5510 on kubuntu?
[10:36] <markelhas> did some one installed one hp 5510 on kubuntu?
[10:36] <cosmint>  please can anyone reccomend a good ftp client for kde ?
[10:36] <thill2708> cosmint: kasablanca
[10:36] <sazeinel> how can i check wether kubuntu is running smp
[10:37] <cosmint> hi thil
[10:37] <h3sp4wn> ozzicle: Look in the aptitude / dpkg log what you have done in the last few days and reverse it
[10:37] <cosmint> i had some issues with kasablanka
[10:37] <cosmint> when i press connect
[10:38] <cosmint> it simply disappears from my screen, program crashes and exits
[10:38] <cosmint> any idea why ?
[10:38] <thill2708> no idea
[10:38] <thill2708> purge it and reinstall would be my guess
[10:38] <cosmint> so you're using it with no problem ?
[10:39] <cosmint> let me try that
[10:39] <cosmint> and get back here
[10:40] <sazeinel> how can i check wether kubuntu is running both of my processors
[10:40] <sazeinel> ?
[10:40] <thill2708> what version of qt is standard in kubuntu now?
[10:41] <cosmint> (no debugging symbols found)
[10:41] <cosmint> Using host libthread_db library "/lib/tls/i686/cmov/libthread_db.so.1".
[10:41] <cosmint> same error
[10:41] <cosmint> heeelp
[10:41] <thill2708> do a sudo aptitude remove kasablanca
[10:41] <thill2708> then do sudo aptitude install kasablanca
[10:41] <cosmint> great idea will try now
[10:42] <thill2708> aptitude might be able to fix it
[10:42] <thill2708> just guessing here
[10:44] <markelhas> did some one installed one hp 5510 on kubuntu? i have this error Error:0xd084001
[10:46] <cosmint> thill2708 thanks i solved it
[10:46] <thill2708> sweet, what was the problem?
[10:46] <thill2708> I really wish FileZilla would just get ported over
[10:46] <cosmint> i also had the wrong setting on connection details
[10:46] <thill2708> aha
[10:47] <cosmint> yeah, i need a more complex ftp client too
[10:47] <thill2708> gftp also sucks :('
[10:47] <cosmint> i used fire ftp with firefox
[10:47] <thill2708> any good?
[10:47] <thill2708> must be weird to ftp through a web browser, though
[10:47] <cosmint> still using but i wish i had a single client with all features
[10:48] <Sanne> thill2708: did you check out kftpgrabber? Looked nice to me as I had a quick look: http://www.kftp.org/
[10:48] <osh_> why not use konqueror as an ftp? works like a charm for me.
[10:48] <cosmint> you should give it a try (fire ftp), it works kinda neat
[10:48] <cosmint> hey osh i tried
[10:48] <mia> is anyone using amd64?  i cant find any working documentation to install codecs for kmplayer...  xvid, divx, etc
[10:49] <cosmint> it transfers but i also need to do some chmods on server side
[10:49] <mia> i understand win32 wont work thats fine
[10:49] <thill2708> Sanne: that looks great - I'm hooked
[10:49] <cosmint> and i dunno if konqueror does that
[10:49] <Sanne> thill2708: :)
[10:49] <thill2708> kasablanca is ugly :(
[10:49] <osh_> mia: unless things have improved lately you'll have to make a chroot'ed install of a win32-player with codecs. That's what I did some year ago when I tried it.
[10:49] <Sanne> thill2708: it's even in edgy
[10:49] <cosmint> and pretty much useless kasablanka
[10:50] <osh_> cosmint: No idea. Never had that need. You tried KBear?
[10:50] <mia> osh_: no, i said that i dont care that win32 wont work, whats bothering me is that xvid and divx codecs arent working
[10:50] <Sanne> cosmint: konqueror can chmod on the server
[10:50] <cosmint> noppe osh
[10:50] <cosmint> thanks sanne
[10:51] <cosmint> will try all suggestions thanks so very much
[10:51] <osh_> mia: You sure there are codecs for 64-bit? I think they're all 32 and then you're stuck with that ugly hack I tried.
[10:52] <mia> osh_: your kidding, there are still no video codecs for amd64?
[10:52] <cosmint> kftpgrabber i use already
[10:52] <cosmint> could be better
[10:52] <cosmint> let me try kbear now
[10:54] <osh_> mia: Well, Microsoft hasn't gotten their 64-shit in order so "noone" uses 64-bit yet. Sort of. When MS pumps out a 64-bit OS for the masses, we'll see 64-bit codecs. I think. I'm just guessing though. There might be codecs. I've just not seen them. Ever.
[10:54] <mia> osh_: im not looking for win32 codecs
[10:54] <mia> osh_: xvid is an openstandard
[10:55] <osh_> mia: I get that. But I don't think there are 64bit codecs.
[10:55] <fishhunter> use the vlc media player for xvid
[10:56] <luky> hi all
[10:57] <osh_> mia: Googled this. Does it help? http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=XviD_Codec
[10:57] <luky> the are any italain?
[10:57] <luky> i need help
[10:57] <Sanne> !it
[10:57] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[10:58] <blizzz_ub> hi there! does someone have some experience or knowledge in xsupplicant or connecting to a radius server? i got 2 cerificates (root-ca and user with password), the server runs in eap-tls and uses a dynamic wep key. i couldn get it to work so far, could someone help?
[10:58] <mia> osh_: thanks i guess ill give it one last shot with that
[10:58] <osh_> mia: They mention that this works on 64-bit too I think. http://www.xvid.org/Downloads.43.0.html
[10:59] <Sanne> mia: I'm pretty sure I can play xvid on my amd64. Should I try anything for you?
[10:59] <osh_> !ask
[10:59] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:59] <cosmint> cannot install kbear
[10:59] <cosmint> no candidate error
[11:00] <cosmint> then deb package install says
[11:00] <mia> Sanne: all i'd like to know is how you did it
[11:00] <mia> Sanne: i cant find any packages to grab in my repos
[11:00] <cosmint> it cannot resolve dependencies
[11:00] <cosmint> any ideas ?
[11:00] <Sanne> mia: I can't remember what I did when... I check what video players I have installed, sec (I'm on dapper, btw)
[11:01] <cosmint> btw can't get my kobian mercury radio tuner to work on edgy
[11:01] <cosmint> it works fine on tv
[11:01] <cosmint> with kdetv
[11:01] <mia> Sanne: im on edgy, wonder if it makes a difference
[11:01] <cosmint> any ideas ?
[11:02] <Sanne> mia: if so, I would think to your advantage. Let's see what I have.
[11:03] <Sanne> mia: I have kaffeine, gxine and vlc (with wxvlc frontend).
[11:03] <mia> Sanne: you use vlc to play them?
[11:04] <mia> Sanne: it even wants to play dvds with kaffine, lol
[11:04] <sa6oook> ppls i need help .i run LKL linux keylogger
[11:05] <sa6oook> but i can't stop it
[11:05] <Sanne> mia: well, usually I try one of them with a video file, and if it doesn't work, I try the next ;).
[11:05] <sa6oook> can somebody help me?
[11:05] <mia> i installed libdvdcss but i guess kde dopesnt know about it
[11:05] <smaggard> hi
[11:05] <Sanne> mia: ah, do you try to play DVDs? If so, Ican't help, because I don't have a DVD drive yet.
[11:05] <sa6oook> exo
[11:06] <sa6oook> ppls i need help .i run LKL linux keylogger
[11:06] <sa6oook> can somebody help me?
[11:06] <sa6oook> but i can't stop it
[11:06] <h3sp4wn> Someone has routed your box ?
[11:06] <osh_> sa6oook: Once is enough. If people know the answer, they'll help. Repeating doesn't go down well here.
[11:06] <h3sp4wn> rooted ?
[11:07] <mia> Sanne: im not trying dvds specifically
[11:07] <h3sp4wn> sa6oook: Try fixing it from a live cd
[11:07] <mia> no video playback works out of the box in kubuntu edgy aamd64
[11:07] <alex___> hi ! can anyone please tell me if it is likely to get an "UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY ; RUN fsck MANUALLY" error when booting in case i suspect i have a faulty hdd ?!
[11:08] <Sanne> mia: if you can give me a link to a video that you cannot play, I could try if it works for me and with what player.
[11:09] <mia> Sanne: im trying local video, and none works in kmplayer cuz it uses xine which has no codecs  package in the repos for amd64
[11:09] <osh_> alex___: Try smartmontools and check your HDD.
[11:10] <alex___> osh_: thank you (i suppose i have to apt-get smartmontools, right?)
[11:10] <Sanne> mia: I see I have a package libxine-extracodecs, do you have that one installed? It's in multiverse.
[11:10] <osh_> alex___: That'd be the easiest way to get them yes.
[11:11] <mia> sanne, i have multiverse uncommented, no package like that
[11:11] <alex___> osh_: thank you, i'm installing them right now - i will run a hdd check and see what i get...
[11:11] <osh_> sa6oook: Dunno what lkl is but if that's the name you could probably just do a "sudo killall lkl"
[11:11] <osh_> alex___: Good luck.
[11:12] <Sanne> mia: funny, it should be there according to packages.ubuntu.com: http://packages.ubuntu.com/edgy/libs/libxine-extracodecs
[11:13] <user___> Hi, does anybody knows how to store app database so the next instalation can have the same programs ?
[11:13] <mia> Sanne: well vlc is playing at least.
[11:14] <Sanne> mia: cool :)
[11:14] <Sanne> mia: there's a 64 bit subforum on ubuntuforums.com that might also help with 64bit issues.
[11:16] <sa6oook> osh_ ,i already download Htop ,one process menager ,and kill LKL
[11:16] <sa6oook> but
[11:16] <sa6oook> now problem is
[11:16] <sa6oook> LKL keymap file
[11:16] <sa6oook> it write everythuing as like as NULL$
[11:16] <sa6oook> and i dont know why
[11:17] <letalis> mia: i run edgy 64bit what are you trying to get running?
[11:17] <h3sp4wn> sa6oook: If its a key logger you should reinstall
[11:17] <sa6oook> why ?
[11:17] <sa6oook> whast to reinstall ?
[11:17] <osh_> sa6oook: so lkl isn't running anymore? Then what's the question again?
[11:18] <h3sp4wn> osh_: Does it not imply to you that lkl is a root kit of some type ? (from what he is saying) I may be wrong
[11:18] <sa6oook> i need to run it, but now to works. to this moment LKL writes empty log
[11:18] <sa6oook> with NULL$
[11:18] <sa6oook> and no keys
[11:18] <sa6oook> from where i can get keymap
[11:18] <sa6oook> for kubuntu 6.06p
[11:18] <sa6oook> for kubuntu 6.06
[11:18] <CVirus> WTF ?
[11:18] <CVirus> is that English ?
[11:18] <h3sp4wn> sa6oook: You are trying to install a keylogger onto someones pc ?
[11:18] <sa6oook> yes
[11:19] <osh_> sa6oook: No idea. Never seen the program before in my life. Read the manpage I guessl
[11:19] <c0ldness> lol
[11:19] <mia> sa6oook: edgy 64
[11:19] <h3sp4wn> sa6oook: Find a script kiddie irc server
[11:19] <mia> sa6oook: Sanne:  i found a BUNCH of gstreamer plugins
[11:19] <CVirus> hehe
[11:19] <zorglu_> q. i look for a kde apps able to provide volume tuning, any suggestion ? (beside kmix, which i find way to hard to use)
[11:19] <sa6oook> osh ok thanks
[11:19] <sa6oook> you are nice
[11:19] <CVirus> h3sp4wn: he's gonna google about that
[11:19] <sa6oook> friend
[11:20] <osh_> sa6oook: good luck
[11:20] <h3sp4wn> CVirus: I can't see any legitimate reason for wanting to install a keylogger
[11:20] <CVirus> h3sp4wn: everybody needs a keylogger on his girl friend's PC :-p
[11:21] <B-Minus> heh
[11:21] <apokryphos> disturbing ;-)
[11:21] <CVirus> gotta get some slee
[11:21] <CVirus> sleep*
[11:21] <smaggard> Hiyas!
[11:22] <Zarephath> !ppc
[11:22] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[11:23] <tibbar> hello
[11:23] <B-Minus> hmm
[11:23] <sa6oook> 10x ,btw ,the processes menager is named "htop"  and is perfect ,and interactive
[11:23] <B-Minus> kubuntu detects my intel 1.8 ghz processor laptop but it says it runs at 600 mhz
[11:23] <B-Minus> how is this possible ?
[11:23] <h3sp4wn> CVirus: Not at all if you don't trust them 100% its a waste of time
[11:23] <osh_> B-Minus: governors?
[11:23] <B-Minus> osh_: what ?
[11:24] <tibbar> sorry people im such a noob, but you have to start some time :), how do I mount a ISO on Kubuntu
[11:24] <Zarephath> Ok so I have a Mac Powerpc mirrored drive dual 1ghz machine...when I am booting to Kubuntu Edgy using powerpc-live..it boots and I have 5 seperate icons across the screen which can barely be read...what boot option can I use to turn off the eyecandy crap so I can at least get the install started?
[11:24] <osh_> B-Minus: There are governors that can control the speed of your cpu. Like if you're on battery it'll go into power-save mode.
[11:24] <B-Minus> hmmz
[11:24] <kjelderg> are there any known issues that make konversation _slow_?
[11:24] <B-Minus> well i just installed kubuntu on this laptop
[11:25] <B-Minus> i havent dont anoher thing
[11:25] <osh_> B-Minus: Right-click on the battery icon. They're controlled from there I believe.
[11:25] <B-Minus> is there a console command to see the cpu speed ?
[11:25] <kjelderg> B-Minus: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:25] <h3sp4wn> B-Minus: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[11:25] <tibbar> osh_: how do I mount a ISO on Kubuntu, im using dapper
[11:25] <B-Minus> model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.80GHz
[11:25] <B-Minus> stepping        : 8
[11:25] <B-Minus> cpu MHz         : 600.000
[11:25] <B-Minus> cache size      : 2048 KB
[11:25] <B-Minus> wtf
[11:26] <markelhas> ppl how can i share a printer in kubuntu in a network, linux and windows.
[11:26] <osh_> tibbar: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /mnt/cdrom
[11:26] <h3sp4wn> tibbar: sudo mount -o loop whatever.iso /media/isodrive (for example)
[11:26] <B-Minus> hmm so thats bad
[11:26] <kjelderg> B-Minus: no
[11:26] <kjelderg> why would taht be  bad?
[11:26] <h3sp4wn> B-Minus: No its supposed to happen (conserves battery)
[11:26] <kjelderg> that*
[11:26] <osh_> tibbar: listen to h3sp4wn. I wasn't paying attention.
[11:26] <B-Minus> eh
[11:26] <h3sp4wn> B-Minus: If its needed it will switch speed
[11:26] <B-Minus> ic
[11:27] <B-Minus> but im not on battery now, im on power
[11:27] <TheGateKeeper> markelhas: yes, linux or windows going to be the print server?
[11:27] <kjelderg> and?
[11:27] <kjelderg> same idea
[11:27] <B-Minus> ic
[11:27] <B-Minus> ok then
[11:27] <kjelderg> conserves power
[11:27] <h3sp4wn> It may be possible to make it always run at full speed if you are connected to the mains
[11:28] <Zarephath> Is there a developer channel? or a ppc specific channel for Kubuntu?
[11:28] <markelhas> TheGateKeeper: hi, i hope linux, i'm in livecd checking if everything is ok
[11:28] <h3sp4wn> (but I dunno how to do it)
[11:28] <TheGateKeeper> markelhas: you might find this helpfull then: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[11:28] <tibbar> h3sp4wn: what is the last part (media/isodrive) is that where I want to mount it?
[11:29] <h3sp4wn> tibbar: yep (I usually mount into /media but it can be wherever)
[11:29] <h3sp4wn> tibbar: mount into /sys or /proc if you want
[11:30] <sergey> Hi. Pls, how to install the opera browser. I have kubuntu on my roverbook and have not opera into list in adept
[11:31] <markelhas> TheGateKeeper: oki them, i'll try follow the wiki. thkns again
[11:31] <TheGateKeeper> markelhas: yw :-)
[11:31] <knapp> I am having a problem with Konversation, the Server List pops up when I open it, has no buttons, and will not close.
[11:31] <Zarephath> markelhas: Basically what you need to do is make sure the hosts file on linux has your ip and alias for the windows machine...go to http://localhost:631 and setup a ipp print connection...then you go to the windows machine and add the full alias name(probably better to specify the ip of the linux box) \<name of ipp printer>
[11:32] <Galathalion> anyone know what clamav-base is+
[11:32] <Zarephath> !clamav
[11:32] <ubotu> clamav: antivirus scanner for Unix. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.88.4-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 65 kB, installed size 208 kB
[11:32] <Galathalion> o_O
[11:32] <Sanne> sergey: I didn't install opera myself, but here's something on the wiki: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[11:33] <knapp> I am having a problem with Konversation, the Server List pops up when I open it, has no buttons, and will not close.
[11:34] <knapp> Anyone have any ideas?
[11:34] <markelhas> Zarephath: oki oki, i'll do that also
[11:34] <sergey> Sanne, tks a lot
[11:34] <markelhas> Zarephath: TheGateKeeper and now can i use the printer in my laptop(kubuntu).
[11:34] <Sanne> sergey: you're welcome :)
[11:35] <markelhas> Zarephath: TheGateKeeper just to make sure that it works in linux
[11:35] <Zarephath> markelhas: That the best way I have found to setup printing and have it be consistent..you should be able to yes...
[11:35] <thill2708> Sanne: do you happen to know which version of qt kubuntu currently uses?
[11:35] <thill2708> have they upped to 4.2 yet?
[11:35] <Zarephath> Make sure your linux printer machine has a static ip!
[11:35] <sergey> it is very different from rpm-based linux here
[11:35] <markelhas> Zarephath: oki i'm going to do that now to see if i can add the printer in my laptop
[11:36] <Zarephath> sergey: and much better once you understand the basics of apt-get
[11:36] <Ranma2264> Does anyone knows why desktop devices on kde 3.5.5 goes to /media/device instead of media:/device ?
[11:40] <markelhas> Zarephath: to setup a ipp print should i do by the wizard or in the web tool?
[11:40] <Zarephath> markelhas: I have just used the web tool
[11:41] <markelhas> Zarephath: where can i do it?
[11:41] <markelhas> Zarephath: add new printer?
[11:42] <Zarephath> markelhas: Just a sec..
[11:42] <markelhas> Zarephath: *add printer?
[11:42] <rolando> hola
[11:42] <rolando> what files should i copy from my ~/.kdeold to my ~/.kde to import my account in kontact?
[11:44] <smaggard> in normal kde my ati card works fine and shows direct rendering, but in an xgl session direct rendering disappears and says xfree86-dri missing.
[11:44] <Zarephath> markelhas: Yes...just add a name for the printer..eventually you get to a drop down where you select ipp as connection type...make sure you know the printer name you create..that is what you will use on the windows machine
[11:44] <smaggard> :D
[11:45] <markelhas> Zarephath: oki going to try
[11:46] <markelhas> Zarephath: what's the default user and pass for root in livecd of kubuntu
[11:46] <Zarephath> markelhas: I think the syntax on the windows machine is ipp:\\computername or ip\printer name...
[11:47] <Zarephath> markelhas: Not sure...
[11:47] <sergey> Zarephath, tks, I used apt-get into altlinux but different way to find repositaries
[11:47] <wouf> hi
[11:48] <markelhas> Zarephath: can't add the printer, cause i don't now the user and pass for CUPS al localhost
[11:48] <markelhas> Zarephath: :P
[11:48] <Zarephath> sergey: There is a tool that I can't remember the name of..it is a website..a tool to create a new sources.list file with the repos..or if you know the repo you need to add you can just edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:49] <wouf> I'm not able to read a DVD with my Kubuntu Edgy Eft, can someone help me ? (I have installed all the stuff needed I think.. but it's not working...)
[11:49] <markelhas> Zarephath: hummmmm, should this be set by me!?
[11:49] <sledge_at_work> wouf: A movie DVD?
[11:49] <wouf> yes
[11:50] <sledge_at_work> !dvd
[11:50] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[11:50] <wouf> I have already installed it
[11:50] <markelhas> Zarephath: any ideia what's the problem !
[11:51] <yanis> i have an intelx86 pc. should I se the 386 or the 686 mplayer package?
[11:51] <wouf> sledge_at_work: I have already done evrything on this document...
[11:52] <sledge_at_work> wouf: How does it not work? Error messages, etc?
[11:52] <Kannix_> Hi all, is there a KDE theme that has the warm, brown colours of Ubuntu?
[11:52] <sergey> Zarephath, yes, but where find repos on internet? Is where the list of repo's?
[11:53] <zorglu_> q. is there a way to get my file from from ~/Desktop to appears on the actual desktop background ?
[11:53] <wouf> sledge_at_work: the DVD is mounted, but for exemple if I try with kaffeine (xine) kaffeine crash
[11:53] <Zarephath> sergey: Try google for sourceomatic
[11:54] <sledge_at_work> o_O
[11:54] <sledge_at_work> wouf: ogle is supposed to be a good dvd player. can you give it a try?
[11:55] <Sanne> Kannix_: if there is, you should be able to find it at kde-look.org
[11:55] <Kannix_> Sanne: Thanks for the hint.
[11:55] <jende_> J
[11:55] <wouf> sledge_at_work: oky i will try it now
[11:55] <Sanne> Kannix_: heh, this one? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4710
[11:55] <sergey> Zarephath, well, but ...
[11:55] <Kannix_> Sanne: So it is not included with Kubuntu?
[11:55] <zorglu_>  q. is there a way to get my file from from ~/Desktop to appears on the actual desktop background ?
[11:55] <TheGateKeeper> sergey: edgy or dapper?
[11:55] <Zarephath> !sourceomatic
[11:55] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:55] <Zarephath> sergey: How about that?
[11:56] <Sanne> Kannix_: I never looked, but for that I recommend searching at packages.ubuntu.com
[11:56] <Kannix_> Sanne: That results in a "not found" error.
[11:56] <Zarephath> !repos
[11:56] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:56] <Zarephath> sergey: Read that too
[11:56] <Sanne> Kannix_: sorry: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=47104
[11:56] <sergey> Zarephath, incomfortable
[11:56] <jende_> Sanne: what are you looking for?
[11:56] <hazard> what's the fastest light windows manager for X11?
[11:56] <markelhas> Zarephath: any ideia!? about the user and pass for CUPS!?
[11:57] <Zarephath> Where is the fsking kdecontrol so I can turn off the bouncing cursor?
[11:57] <Sanne> jende_: trying to help Kannix_ find a ubuntu brown theme for kde
[11:57] <Kannix_> Sanne: similar to that you linked. I'd like the 6.10 edgy theme ...
[11:57] <jende_> Sanne: a brown one?
[11:57] <TheGateKeeper> hazard: fluxbox probable
[11:57] <Kannix_> jende_: Yep, the one used in 6.10 Ubuntu.
[11:57] <hazard> will it run on debian?
[11:57] <Sanne> jende_: I think so, ask Kannix_ ;)
[11:57] <Zarephath> markelhas: I said I don't know...did you try root with nothing for pass? What about root, root for the userpass..try some combinations..or search the wiki for the information..
[11:58] <TheGateKeeper> hazard: yep & it's in the repos
[11:58] <jende_> Kannix_: AFAIK its gone in edgy
[11:58] <Kannix_> Sanne, jende_: Strange enough, I like the warm brown tones.
[11:58] <hazard> alright, I'll give it a try.
[11:58] <Kannix_> jende_: Nope, it is still there. Just a little lighter.
[11:58] <alex____> osh_: i have installed smartmontools and i don't know if i used smartctl well, as it tells me that for my device smart isn't available ; here's how i used it $ smartctl -a -T verypermissive --smart=on --device=ata /media/hdc1, am i doing anything wrong ?
[11:58] <Kannix_> jende_: Look at any edgy screenshots
[11:58] <Sanne> Zarephath: it's the command kcontrol, you can also add it to the panel as an applet
[11:58] <wouf> sledge_at_work: ERROR[ogle_nav] : faild to read VIDEO_TS.IFO
[11:59] <wouf> sledge_at_work: callbacks.on_opendvd_activate(): DVDSetDVDRoot: Root not set
[11:59] <sledge_at_work> wouf: Are you trying to play a DVD-R?
[11:59] <wouf> no its a commercial DVD
[11:59] <Kannix_> jende_, Sanne: This one http://www.thecodingstudio.com/opensource/linux/?q=node/16
[12:00] <Sanne> Kannix_: I like those colors too :) Nothing strange about that, contrary to some opinions found on the net.
[12:00] <wouf> sledge_at_work: I tryed with an other commercial DVD : FATAL[ogle_mpeg_ps] : dvdreadblocks failed
[12:01] <Kannix_> Sanne: You need a good quality colour screen for them, something to do with contrast and colours that are not blue, red or green.
[12:01] <sledge_at_work> wouf: Does it work fine in Windows?
[12:01] <alex____> osh_: also, after the version etc, it says "smartctl: device read identity failed (not an ata/atapi device)"... although my hdd is ata
[12:01] <wouf> I don't have windows ...
[12:01] <hazard> sure it isn't SATA or something?
[12:01] <wouf> sledge_at_work:  I don't have windows ...
[12:01] <markelhas> any one nows whats the ubuntu default password?
[12:01] <bLaZeD> hmm is there a way to load/unload the driver so sound....for some reason everythings i saying it cant find my sound device...
[12:01] <hazard> or, that the drive controller is supported by smartctrl?
[12:01] <Kannix_> markelhas: There is no such thing.
[12:02] <sledge_at_work> wouf: When you run dmesg (in a konsole) does it show error message at the end?
[12:02] <wouf> sledge_at_work:  yep , [17193900.840000]  end_request: I/O error, dev hdb, sector 1679840
[12:02] <alex____> hazard: i don't know exactly, it's definetly not sata, and at boot it sais smart control enabled i.e. after grub bootloader
[12:02] <hyperactivecrond> my wireless PCI card <wmp54gs> works fine with ndiswrapper but it shows as eth1 as opposed to wlan0. it also won't load at boottime. i ran ndiswrapper -i WMP54GS.inf, blacklisted bcm43xx, and ndiswrapper -m 'ed. what do i do now?
[12:02] <hazard> maybe it just dosen't like the option set you're giving it then?
[12:02] <zorglu_> ok my icon question for ~/desktop deosnt seems to have much succeess :)
[12:03] <sledge_at_work> wouf: Maybe your drive is broken...
[12:03] <bLaZeD> !sound
[12:03] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:03] <markelhas> Kannix_: hummm, i'm trying to config CUPS and ask me for user pass or root pass
[12:03] <alex____> hazard: i'm a beginner in the command line... i checked through --help and i thought these should do
[12:03] <markelhas> Kannix_: i'm using livecd
[12:03] <wouf> sledge_at_work: I'm able to read CDROM...
[12:03] <wouf> sledge_at_work: hdb: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }
[12:03] <hazard> try only one or two, and see if it'll take em.
[12:03] <sledge_at_work> wouf: Do you actually have a DVD-ROM drive?
[12:04] <sledge_at_work> wouf: Sometimes people do shady things like relabling...
[12:04] <alex____> hazard: i already tried, for instance if i didn't set -T to verypermissive it would give me a less-detailed report and it wouldn't have tried so many things upon enabling smart support etc
[12:04] <wouf> sledge_at_work: Yes, I have a laptop (Asus V6VA) wich have a dvdrom drive...
[12:04] <Kannix_> markelhas: did you try just "Enter"? :)
[12:05] <hazard> I dunno alex___ but I gotto run off for a bit.
[12:05] <sledge_at_work> wouf: Do you see a DVD-ROM icon on your desktop when you put in the disc?
[12:05] <alex____> hazard: ok thank you anyway !
[12:05] <Lantius> how can I send a command like other user ?
[12:05] <wouf> yes
[12:05] <markelhas> Kannix_: no user no pass!?
[12:05] <wouf> sledge_at_work: yes and i'm able to browse it
[12:05] <alex____> Lantius: su username and then the command
[12:06] <Kannix_> markelhas: There is no real "root" user in Ubuntu.
[12:06] <Lantius> alex___ but it's for a script, i need send in one line
[12:06] <Kannix_> markelhas: Everyting is done using "sudo".
[12:06] <Lantius> alex___ only one line
[12:06] <Kannix_> markelhas: so you need the password of the current used.
[12:06] <Kannix_> markelhas: so you need the password of the current user.
[12:06] <alex____> Lantius: oups i'm sorry - i don't know then
[12:06] <markelhas> Kannix_: yaps ubuntu is the user in livecd, and the pass is?
[12:06] <Kannix_> markelhas: I think it is blank on the live CD, but I am not sure. Never used it for anything but an installation :)
[12:07] <markelhas> Kannix_: blank didn't work
[12:07] <markelhas> :(
[12:08] <Lantius> someone knows how can I send a command like I would be another users in only one line ?
[12:08] <markelhas> i'm trying to share a printer
[12:08] <markelhas> Kannix_:
[12:08] <Chousuke> Lantius: hmm? do you mean something like su username -c "command"
[12:09] <hyperactivecrond> could someone who has access to the /topic /query me? i have something relevant to add to the /topic
[12:10] <Lantius> Chousuke: do you do it like that ? with username -c "command" ?
[12:10] <Lantius> ok
[12:10] <Lantius> i think so
[12:10] <Chousuke> Lantius: yeah
[12:10] <Lantius> this sounds great
[12:10] <Chousuke> try it out first :P
[12:10] <Lantius> if i am root i am writing a script
[12:10] <Chousuke> do su user -c touch
[12:10] <Chousuke> er
[12:10] <Lantius> i want to execute a program like another user
[12:10] <Chousuke> "touch test"
[12:11] <Chousuke> if the user you specified is the owner, then it works
[12:11] <Chousuke> (touch creates an empty file) :)
[12:11] <markelhas> :!?