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| fbond | crimsun, BTW usbdevfs was not enabled by default in edgy | 03:19 |
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| fbond | so users of midisport-firmware must mount it to use their devices | 03:20 |
| fbond | not sure if I should file a bug ... ? | 03:21 |
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| lastnode | crimsun, ping | 03:33 |
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| LaserJock | hi minghua | 04:17 |
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| crimsun | fbond: no, not a bug | 04:32 |
| crimsun | gah. | 04:32 |
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| LaserJock | hmm, does anybody know if network manager has issues with reporting signal strength? | 05:39 |
| Burgundavia | which chipset? | 05:39 |
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| LaserJock | Burgundavia: Atheros R5212 | 05:44 |
| LaserJock | my internet seems a bit slow | 05:45 |
| Burgundavia | madwifi has known issues, LaserJock | 05:45 |
| Burgundavia | it reports bogus numbers | 05:45 |
| LaserJock | but the router is not very far away at all | 05:45 |
| crimsun | have you explicitly set it to 11M? | 05:45 |
| Burgundavia | it is the driver | 05:45 |
| LaserJock | when I was just using the gnome thingy it reported large number | 05:45 |
| crimsun | "the gnome thingy" being...? | 05:46 |
| LaserJock | the applet | 05:46 |
| Burgundavia | the default one? | 05:46 |
| LaserJock | yeah | 05:46 |
| LaserJock | I'm just trying to figure out if it's n-m | 05:47 |
| LaserJock | or if my wireless needs to be reset or something | 05:47 |
| crimsun | if it's edgy, and it's madwifi*, then it's edgy. | 05:47 |
| crimsun | for many people, madwifi* is broken in 2.6.17 | 05:47 |
| LaserJock | the gnome applet "Network Monitor" reports 79% for the signal strength | 05:48 |
| LaserJock | n-m show 35% | 05:48 |
| Burgundavia | gnome applet may be special casing the madwifi driver | 05:48 |
| Fujitsu | Iiiinteresting. | 05:48 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: What does iwconfig say? | 05:49 |
| Burgundavia | I know danw has refused patches to special case the madwifi driver in nm | 05:49 |
| minghua | maybe n-m just uses 5-base or something | 05:49 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: oh geeze, what am I looking for? | 05:49 |
| Fujitsu | Link Quality=72/100 | 05:49 |
| LaserJock | oh yeah, 35/94 | 05:49 |
| Fujitsu | Erm, out of 94!? | 05:50 |
| LaserJock | so that's what n-m is reporting | 05:50 |
| Fujitsu | madwifi does seem rather stuffed. | 05:50 |
| Burgundavia | the driver lies | 05:50 |
| Fujitsu | And GNOME's thingy is special casing. | 05:50 |
| LaserJock | ok, well I was just wondering if I was going nuts or something ;-) | 05:50 |
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| LaserJock | Mt. View was the first time I've really done anything with wireless | 05:51 |
| LaserJock | at home I just now the SSID and don't have to mess with anything | 05:51 |
| LaserJock | s/now/know// | 05:51 |
| LaserJock | I felt rather dumb sitting next to mako | 05:52 |
| LaserJock | and I was struggling with n-m | 05:52 |
| Fujitsu | That is a side-effect of being around almighty Ubuntu people. | 05:53 |
| LaserJock | heh, well he was always dropping his laptop | 05:53 |
| LaserJock | so at least I didn't pick that habit up | 05:54 |
| crimsun | you won't be able to tell until your fifth macbook anyhow. | 05:54 |
| crimsun | by that point we'll all be mocking you anyhow. | 05:54 |
| LaserJock | heh | 05:54 |
| LaserJock | I don't know if I'll be getting a macbook anytime soon | 05:54 |
| LaserJock | I did get a anti-drm sticker from mako at that BOF though | 05:55 |
| Fujitsu | Was anybody there running {Windows,OS X,[insert other Linux distributions here] } on their laops? | 05:55 |
| LaserJock | so it was worth it ;-) | 05:55 |
| Fujitsu | *laptops | 05:55 |
| Burgundavia | some OS X I imagine | 05:55 |
| Burgundavia | mpt ran it last year | 05:55 |
| LaserJock | well, there were certainly dual boots | 05:55 |
| LaserJock | the K12LTSP guys were running K12LTSP (no way!) | 05:56 |
| Burgundavia | stunning | 05:56 |
| LaserJock | the Sun guys had a nice Ubuntu machine | 05:56 |
| LaserJock | I wasn't around long enough to see what the ATI and Nvidia people brought ;-) | 05:57 |
| LaserJock | I was really amazed by the Sun Looking Glass demo | 05:57 |
| LaserJock | I had seen a demo early on | 05:57 |
| LaserJock | but never really bothered since it was Java | 05:58 |
| === Fujitsu waits for the gigantic gcl to upload to dapper-proposed. | ||
| LaserJock | but there were some interesting things they are doing that I think are usable | 05:58 |
| LaserJock | the "map a window onto a flag" one was purely crack ;-) | 05:59 |
| LaserJock | but things like flipping a window and on the back side you have notes | 05:59 |
| Fujitsu | Mm, nice. | 05:59 |
| LaserJock | and panoramic views of the desktops seemed more practical | 05:59 |
| LaserJock | heh, at the end somebody asked "Does it work on a free Java?" :-) | 06:00 |
| Fujitsu | Hahah. | 06:00 |
| LaserJock | but I don't think I'm quite there yet | 06:01 |
| LaserJock | the blingy stuff seems like it has some potential, but I don't really see using it for everyday use yet | 06:01 |
| minghua | hmm, so when I close the window do I lose my notes? | 06:02 |
| LaserJock | good question | 06:02 |
| LaserJock | I imagine they take care of that somehow | 06:02 |
| LaserJock | to me it looked more usable then the whole AIGLX/beryl thing I tried | 06:03 |
| LaserJock | but in the end I mostly just use terminals and firefox | 06:03 |
| LaserJock | I got to see one of the OLPC laptops, Ivan had one | 06:04 |
| LaserJock | pretty sweet | 06:04 |
| Fujitsu | How was it? | 06:04 |
| Fujitsu | Aha. | 06:04 |
| LaserJock | green :-) | 06:04 |
| === Fujitsu notes that 15MB .diff.gzs and 256kbps upstreams don't mix very nicely. | ||
| LaserJock | mhm | 06:04 |
| Fujitsu | Or it might actually be 128kbps at the moment... | 06:04 |
| LaserJock | I generally have 128kbps I think | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | it really stinks | 06:05 |
| Fujitsu | 10Mbps down, 256kbps up... Not nice when you have to upload stuff frequently, but better than most connections here. | 06:05 |
| LaserJock | did you guys see the Council Greyskull planet post of mako's | 06:06 |
| LaserJock | 10Mbps is cool | 06:06 |
| LaserJock | I've only got 1.5 | 06:06 |
| Fujitsu | 10Mbps isn't so great when you live in Oz. | 06:06 |
| Fujitsu | Because the international connection is... pathetic? | 06:06 |
| LaserJock | ah | 06:06 |
| LaserJock | I still don't get the AU/NZ internet situation | 06:07 |
| Fujitsu | Basically, any international connectivity sucks. | 06:07 |
| Fujitsu | Generally fairly high latency, and slow. | 06:07 |
| LaserJock | local stuff is really good though? | 06:07 |
| Fujitsu | I always hit my theoretical bandwidth maximum when downloading from Australian mirrors like UWA, so yes. | 06:08 |
| minghua | I saw mako's blog post, but had no idea what greyskull is, even after reading the wikipedia article :-( | 06:08 |
| LaserJock | oh | 06:09 |
| LaserJock | well MOTU comes from the He-Man cartoon show | 06:10 |
| Fujitsu | Does it? | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | Castle Greyskull was a part of that cartoon | 06:10 |
| minghua | oh okay, then I have been missing that reference too | 06:10 |
| LaserJock | yeah, I suppose it's a cultural reference | 06:10 |
| crimsun | Fujitsu: as a codename, yes. | 06:10 |
| Fujitsu | Interesting. | 06:11 |
| crimsun | we weren't always known as MOTU | 06:11 |
| bddebian | "Bye the power of Greyskull..." | 06:14 |
| bddebian | "I HAVE THE POWER!!" | 06:14 |
| Fujitsu | I've never seen anything else (other the just `Ubuntu developers' or something like that) | 06:14 |
| === LaserJock puts on some Queen | ||
| === Fujitsu puts on some `find somebody to let gcl into dapper-proposed'. | ||
| Fujitsu | Any ideas on who I attack for that? | 06:16 |
| LaserJock | what do you need? | 06:17 |
| crimsun | probably no one at this point, since everyone's tied up at UDS | 06:17 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: you need an archive admin? | 06:17 |
| crimsun | I don't expect any movement on that front until next week | 06:17 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: the gcl upload is currently `awaiting approval by a distro manager' | 06:17 |
| LaserJock | ah | 06:17 |
| LaserJock | yes, that might take a bit | 06:18 |
| LaserJock | as the distro manager is having to put up with a bunch of people bugging him :-) | 06:18 |
| Fujitsu | I suppose so. | 06:19 |
| minghua | LaserJock, Fujitsu: heard of Scibuntu? http://urban.it.hik.se/scibuntu/ | 06:22 |
| Fujitsu | Eek. | 06:23 |
| LaserJock | darn it | 06:23 |
| Fujitsu | Sounds bad. | 06:23 |
| Burgundavia | very very bad | 06:23 |
| Burgundavia | I love bash scripts in the morning | 06:23 |
| Fujitsu | What is included | 06:23 |
| Fujitsu | Tools for reading and writing scientific text: [snip] | 06:23 |
| Fujitsu | Acroread. | 06:23 |
| Fujitsu | Acroread included... Yuck. | 06:24 |
| crimsun | ooh, sweet! | 06:24 |
| crimsun | I'll just make them the bug contact for acroread... | 06:24 |
| === Fujitsu stomps on crimsun and Scibuntu. | ||
| crimsun | please convince them to include flashplugin-nonfree, too, and my life will be complete | 06:24 |
| LaserJock | what the... they don't get acroread from the repos | 06:24 |
| LaserJock | but by wget'ing from adobe | 06:25 |
| minghua | I don't think they have any repo | 06:25 |
| LaserJock | well, I *have* to have acroread | 06:25 |
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| LaserJock | minghua: no, but acroread is in Ubuntu so you don't need to get it from adobe like that | 06:25 |
| Fujitsu | Last updated 5 days ago... | 06:25 |
| minghua | oh I see what you mean | 06:25 |
| LaserJock | now now guys | 06:25 |
| crimsun | someone should gently remind them that they are breaking Adobe's EULA. | 06:26 |
| LaserJock | we don't need to go off on a rampage... yet ;-) | 06:26 |
| Fujitsu | `scibuntu - scientific extensions for Ubuntu 6.04 LTS' | 06:26 |
| Fujitsu | Erm, they're trying to install treewiewx... I presume they mean treeviewx, and that's only in Edgy... | 06:27 |
| Fujitsu | What crack. | 06:27 |
| LaserJock | that reminds me | 06:27 |
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| LaserJock | I need to talk with the guys wanting to do Biobuntu | 06:27 |
| Fujitsu | Are these guys sane? | 06:28 |
| minghua | they have -q in apt-get, so maybe there are no error messages for wrong package name | 06:28 |
| LaserJock | Scibuntu or Biobuntu? | 06:28 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: Biobuntu, we've already ascertained the Scibuntu guy is insane. | 06:29 |
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| LaserJock | Fujitsu: he's not insane | 06:29 |
| Fujitsu | Launchpad generates some really nice HTML: <tr class=""> | 06:29 |
| LaserJock | he's simply a user wanting to help others out | 06:29 |
| minghua | apt-get should be patched to not accept -y in non-interactive mode :-) | 06:29 |
| LaserJock | we just need to focus such efforts in the right direction | 06:29 |
| LaserJock | rather then calling them insane | 06:29 |
| Fujitsu | But but but... It's yet another crackful bash script. | 06:30 |
| LaserJock | sure | 06:30 |
| LaserJock | but I'm more interested in the intent | 06:30 |
| LaserJock | rather then the implementation | 06:30 |
| LaserJock | we can easily fix (relatively) the implementation | 06:30 |
| LaserJock | the hard part is focusing people's efforts in the right direction | 06:32 |
| LaserJock | "rather then work on a hackish script, maybe you can help us set up sane scientific tasks that all Ubuntu users can use" | 06:32 |
| Fujitsu | That might be an idea... | 06:32 |
| LaserJock | these are the things we'll be trying to do for Edubuntu anyway | 06:33 |
| LaserJock | I just wish people would contact us before they launch into these projects | 06:34 |
| LaserJock | and put some *buntu all over the web for Google and the forums to pick up on | 06:34 |
| Fujitsu | That'd be nice, rather than us finding about them later... | 06:34 |
| Fujitsu | If we had nice forum communication, we might be able to find out about these things earlier. :/ | 06:35 |
| Fujitsu | And get in contact with the authors early on to do things right... | 06:35 |
| Burgundavia | *cough* ubuntustudio *cough* | 06:35 |
| Fujitsu | Heheh. | 06:35 |
| LaserJock | I don't think either Scibuntu or Biobuntu were thought of on the forums though | 06:36 |
| Fujitsu | Re: [ubuntu-uk] Project Proposal - ?Biobuntu? | 06:36 |
| LaserJock | mhm | 06:36 |
| Mez | why is there never the person you want around when you want them | 06:36 |
| Mez | lol | 06:36 |
| Mez | oh, btw, if anyone wants to review ;) | 06:36 |
| LaserJock | Mez: because that would be too easy | 06:36 |
| Mez | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3379 | 06:37 |
| LaserJock | Burgundavia: I was talking with joejaxx and _MMA_ at Mt. View | 06:37 |
| Burgundavia | excellent | 06:37 |
| Burgundavia | and | 06:37 |
| Burgundavia | ? | 06:37 |
| Fujitsu | Eek... That Biobuntu idea is bad. | 06:37 |
| LaserJock | Burgundavia: and we were kinda thinking about the idea of having some sort of derivative guidelines | 06:37 |
| Burgundavia | that would be good | 06:37 |
| LaserJock | maybe a spec or something | 06:37 |
| Burgundavia | and a contact for that | 06:38 |
| LaserJock | just outlining, this is the way to do it right, these are the roadblocks, etc. | 06:38 |
| Burgundavia | somebody to go to and say "I want to deriv ubuntu" | 06:38 |
| LaserJock | exactly | 06:38 |
| Fujitsu | It would be reeeally nice to have a list of derivatives... And a list of hackish scripts to install crack.. But that's never going to happen. | 06:39 |
| LaserJock | what do you mean? | 06:39 |
| LaserJock | just a listing of them? | 06:39 |
| joejaxx | LaserJock: | 06:39 |
| LaserJock | joejaxx: hello | 06:39 |
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| joejaxx | LaserJock: hello | 06:40 |
| LaserJock | heh, have fun with that :-) | 06:40 |
| joejaxx | :D | 06:40 |
| Fujitsu | Well, I mean... Having a listing of what they are, what they're for, who's running them, etc... So we can keep track of them and advise people if they should be doing it differently. | 06:40 |
| joejaxx | i just started so it is on abiword right now | 06:40 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: I don't think that'd be entirely insane to do :-) | 06:41 |
| LaserJock | there are 3 derivative that are working towards being in the Ubuntu repos | 06:43 |
| Fujitsu | Which are these? | 06:43 |
| LaserJock | I can think of a few scripted ones | 06:43 |
| LaserJock | Ichthux, UbuntuStudio, and Fluxbuntu | 06:43 |
| minghua | I don't fancy tracking crackful scripts... | 06:43 |
| LaserJock | minghua: sure, but it might be better to track then to find out later | 06:43 |
| Fujitsu | minghua: It would be a good idea to track them. | 06:43 |
| minghua | having a list of derivative distros would be good though | 06:43 |
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| LaserJock | but then there are derivatives like Guadalinex that is done entirely outside of Ubuntu | 06:44 |
| Mez | joejaxx, Seventeen Days later .... "openoffice... still? gah!" | 06:44 |
| LaserJock | but aren't hacky | 06:44 |
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| Fujitsu | Unhacky ones aren't too bad... | 06:45 |
| LaserJock | just difficult to keep track of | 06:45 |
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| lotusleaf | why does gurlchecker depend on libclamav1? So when I compile ClamAV 0.88.6 myself (because 0.88.4 is in the repos) and uninstall 0.88.4 from the repos, gurlchecker must be removed, and when I try to install it again, it wants to install libclamav1 but I don't want that because I've already built 0.88.6 for myself. | 06:49 |
| lotusleaf | why does gurlchecker need libclamav1? | 06:50 |
| Fujitsu | lotusleaf: I'm sure it has a good reason to. | 06:50 |
| LaserJock | I don't know, but it's a dependency | 06:50 |
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| jdong | configure: --with-clamav=DIR use CLAMAV library virii scan (located in directory DIR, if supplied). default=yes, if present | 06:51 |
| lotusleaf | Fujitsu: thanks, I know it's a dep, but I'm curious as to why it's not just an option | 06:51 |
| jdong | ^^ because it's the upstream default in ./configure | 06:51 |
| lotusleaf | jdong: so I should build gurlchecker from source? | 06:51 |
| LaserJock | lotusleaf: but you should be able to install a 0.88.6 and gurlchecker will be fine | 06:52 |
| lotusleaf | LaserJock: very well, thanks =) | 06:52 |
| Fujitsu | Wouldn't it be a better idea to use a packaged 0.88.6? | 06:52 |
| lotusleaf | jdong: thx for joining & detailing | 06:52 |
| jdong | lotusleaf: if you build 0.88.6 using ubuntu/debian packages, it'll still work with the new clamav | 06:52 |
| Fujitsu | Or update the 0.88.4 package? | 06:52 |
| jdong | in theory :D | 06:52 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: that's what I'm saying | 06:52 |
| lotusleaf | jdong: no, I haven't tried, I build it from the clamav sources @ sf | 06:53 |
| Fujitsu | lotusleaf: Try grabbing the Debian package and building that, it'll likely work properly. | 06:53 |
| jdong | lotusleaf: build http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/clamav/clamav_0.88.5-2.dsc | 06:53 |
| lotusleaf | Fujitsu: roger that, and thanks for your (and other people who) response(ed). | 06:54 |
| Fujitsu | jdong: 0.88.6 has been in unstable since the 6th. | 06:54 |
| jdong | that contains the security fixes backported from 0.88.6 too | 06:54 |
| jdong | Fujitsu: oh, I wasn't aware | 06:54 |
| Fujitsu | packages.qa.debian.org is your friend :) | 06:54 |
| jdong | oh btw, out of curiousity... | 06:54 |
| jdong | is there an "apt-get source" like script that can allow me to specify more channels than apt? | 06:54 |
| jdong | i.e. I'd like to be able to choose to fetch a source package from sid OR feisty.... | 06:55 |
| Fujitsu | jdong: You can use dget and specify the URL to a .dsc, that'll grab and extra things. | 06:55 |
| jdong | I guess, yeah | 06:55 |
| Fujitsu | *that and | 06:55 |
| jdong | then use packages.qa.d.o | 06:55 |
| jdong | which is more up to date | 06:55 |
| Fujitsu | Yep. | 06:55 |
| jdong | thanks | 06:56 |
| Fujitsu | No problem. | 06:56 |
| lotusleaf | && again, thanks! =) | 06:56 |
| LaserJock | jdong: I know what you mean though | 06:56 |
| LaserJock | I'd like that too | 06:56 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: Same, it'd be rather useful... | 06:56 |
| === Fujitsu looks how MDT does its multi-distro apt-get stuff. | ||
| jdong | yeah, I'd rather just say "dget clamav/sid" and not go combing through packages.qa | 06:57 |
| jdong | but I'm just being too lazy | 06:57 |
| Mez | jdong: plans for prevu ? | 06:57 |
| LaserJock | it'd be nice to have a CLI that you just give the package name and it gives you Debian and Ubuntu versions | 06:57 |
| jdong | Mez: I pushed a rewrite (0.4.1) into dev... | 06:58 |
| jdong | Mez: testing it right now, looks good.... | 06:58 |
| jdong | Mez: I'd like it eventually in universe :D | 06:58 |
| Fujitsu | Something like apt-cache madison, but for more than is in sources.list | 06:58 |
| LaserJock | exactly | 06:58 |
| jdong | Fujitsu: madison-lite? | 06:58 |
| Fujitsu | Wouldn't be difficult to write. | 06:58 |
| Mez | jdong: I know - :D whichis why I have it in revu | 06:58 |
| LaserJock | and then dget in a similar fashion | 06:58 |
| Fujitsu | jdong: Seems to require a local mirror. | 06:59 |
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| Mez | jdong: btw: you should make the branch in ubuntu-backporters so we can all work on it - not just yours | 06:59 |
| jdong | Fujitsu: adapt http://pastebin.com/819521 | 07:00 |
| jdong | :) | 07:00 |
| jdong | it just doesn't dget | 07:00 |
| jdong | that's the last damn piece of the puzzle | 07:00 |
| jdong | Mez: yeah yeah details details :D | 07:00 |
| Fujitsu | Nice... | 07:00 |
| jdong | Mez: is there any obvious way of moving branches to a new owner that I'm missing, or should I just re-push? | 07:00 |
| jdong | Fujitsu: backporters have been using it since Warty :D | 07:01 |
| Mez | jdong: launchpad/url/to/branch/+reassign | 07:01 |
| jdong | Mez: ah | 07:01 |
| jdong | Mez: reassigned | 07:02 |
| jdong | Mez: also reassigned debian-dir | 07:04 |
| Mez | jdong ... didnt know you;d done that yourself | 07:04 |
| jdong | Mez: did what? | 07:05 |
| Mez | nvm | 07:05 |
| Mez | jdong: btw I have a suggestion | 07:05 |
| Mez | in your shell's RC add | 07:05 |
| Mez | export DEBFULLNAME="John Dong"; | 07:05 |
| Mez | export DEBEMAIL="jdong@ubuntu.com" | 07:06 |
| Mez | ;0 | 07:06 |
| jdong | Mez: oh, lovely :) | 07:07 |
| Mez | I did notice a lot of jdong@jdong-laptop ;) | 07:07 |
| jdong | Mez: yeah :D | 07:08 |
| Mez | jdong: surely you dont need to keep bumping the version numbers? | 07:09 |
| Mez | well not like that | 07:09 |
| jdong | Mez: you know that feeling when you see a bug and want to release a fix for it? | 07:09 |
| Mez | then push it to the branch ;) | 07:09 |
| crimsun | resist that feeling. | 07:09 |
| jdong | lol | 07:10 |
| crimsun | killing bugs is good, but it often leads to hasty measures | 07:10 |
| Mez | jdong, RE,RO ? | 07:10 |
| Mez | jdong, are you actually making these releases proper ? | 07:11 |
| LaserJock | crimsun: wise words, teacher | 07:11 |
| jdong | Mez: what do you mean? | 07:11 |
| Mez | or just saying "ooh, this is a bug fix, lets bump the version number"? | 07:11 |
| Mez | jdong, RE,RO = release early, release often | 07:11 |
| jdong | Mez: well, how else would you release a bugfix? | 07:11 |
| jdong | if you mean is there a deb for each one of those, yes | 07:12 |
| jdong | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=125877&package_id=206140 | 07:12 |
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| jdong | I've been pushing them to SF for now | 07:12 |
| Mez | jdong, just release patches ... | 07:12 |
| jdong | Mez: hush you :) | 07:12 |
| jdong | yeah but that doesn't install as easily as dpkg -i :) | 07:13 |
| Mez | patch -p0 < patch | 07:13 |
| Mez | remember you're just using text files | 07:13 |
| jdong | yeah, that works, release as a patch against /.... | 07:13 |
| Mez | and put it this way, If I'm going to be maintaining this in ubuntu, I dont want to have to review and upload a new set of code changes every day ;) | 07:14 |
| jdong | well, either way, I'm running out of things to do to prevu :) | 07:14 |
| jdong | Mez: I don't think there's much more to come honestly | 07:14 |
| jdong | the tool does its job the way it is :) | 07:14 |
| jdong | I had one last itch to rewrite it OOP and I just scratched that | 07:15 |
| Mez | let me know when you're done and I'll trawl through the debian dir then | 07:16 |
| Mez | what else needs doing now | 07:16 |
| jdong | I have a version that disregards version constraints on build deps, but if that went into the main program I'd be the next automatix guy :D | 07:16 |
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| Mez | jdong... what the heck.. | 07:16 |
| Mez | Wed, 8 Nov 2006 00:28:47 -0500 = * New upstream release | 07:17 |
| Mez | Wed, 8 Nov 2006 00:02:50 -0500 = * New upstream release | 07:17 |
| jdong | Mez: one last bug slipped out? | 07:17 |
| Mez | if you'r releasing a new verison every 25 mins you can get it away from me ? :P | 07:17 |
| jdong | Mez: would you rather me leave the bug there for 2 days, have 10 users ask "what does this error mean", then fix it? :D | 07:18 |
| Mez | jdong: then send those users a patch | 07:18 |
| Mez | or give them instructions on how to get the branch | 07:18 |
| jdong | Mez: well, at this point I don't see anything that needs to be done anymore | 07:19 |
| jdong | I promise :) | 07:19 |
| jdong | I just tested it with 10 packages using all 4 source methods | 07:20 |
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| crimsun | jdong: are you mad? | 07:31 |
| crimsun | (RE: FF 2) | 07:31 |
| Fujitsu | Erm... | 07:32 |
| === Fujitsu chokes. | ||
| joejaxx | fluxbuntu is not a crackful script :\ | 07:36 |
| crimsun | what's the context for that? | 07:37 |
| === Mez laughs @ the FF2 thing | ||
| jdong | crimsun: they freakin won't take my no as an answer! | 07:38 |
| jdong | :) | 07:38 |
| joejaxx | crimsun: someone called it crackful script | 07:38 |
| minghua | joejaxx: in this channel? | 07:40 |
| joejaxx | i think so | 07:40 |
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| joejaxx | woohoo i hit the b's | 08:10 |
| joejaxx | i had to start it over | 08:10 |
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| === Fujitsu notes a flood of traffic on feisty-changes. | ||
| Burgundavia | Fujitsu: likely one of mdz, tfheen or kamion who can't sleep and thus flushed the held queue | 10:17 |
| Fujitsu | No, it's unfrozen. | 10:18 |
| Burgundavia | afaik, the only people that can unfreeze it are in mTV | 10:18 |
| Burgundavia | my explanation stands about insomnia | 10:19 |
| Fujitsu | Maybe, but it's now unfrozen. | 10:19 |
| Fujitsu | Probably :P | 10:19 |
| Fujitsu | `I can't sleep. I'm going to unfreeze Feisty.' | 10:19 |
| Burgundavia | however, the new epiphany means I am updating tomorrow | 10:19 |
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| Hobbsee | Burgundavia: to feisty already? | 10:21 |
| Burgundavia | yep | 10:21 |
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| Fujitsu | I was planning to do so after midnight tonight. | 10:21 |
| Fujitsu | (due to offpeak download allowance being twice as high as on-peak) | 10:22 |
| Burgundavia | Fujitsu: you funny aussies and your "allowances" | 10:22 |
| Burgundavia | three months ago I pulled down 30 gig | 10:22 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: it's been unfrozen for a day or two | 10:22 |
| Hobbsee | Burgundavia: yup. i dont have that problem - i just have a capped limit | 10:22 |
| Gloubiboulga | ajmitch: universe is unfrozen too? | 10:23 |
| Fujitsu | ajmitch: So people just uploaded a gazillion things? | 10:23 |
| Fujitsu | Gloubiboulga: The components aren't seperate, they're either all or none. | 10:23 |
| ajmitch | Gloubiboulga: of course, I've uploaded stuff through NEW already as well | 10:23 |
| Gloubiboulga | great | 10:23 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch: I see libvirt, which means that the virtmanager is soonish? | 10:23 |
| ajmitch | Fujitsu: yes, people have had piles of stuff waiting to be uploaded, I've got a few | 10:23 |
| === Fujitsu gets on with some merges, then. | ||
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: maybe | 10:24 |
| === Burgundavia whips ajmitch (faster) :) | ||
| === Hobbsee hasnt looked at merges | ||
| Hobbsee | much | 10:24 |
| === ajmitch tweaks /ignore | ||
| Burgundavia | ajmitch: heh | 10:26 |
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| ajmitch | Burgundavia: worst way to get me to do something is to nag me about it :) | 10:27 |
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: are you coming down at all in these last few days? | 10:27 |
| Burgundavia | no, sadly not | 10:27 |
| === Burgundavia is sad | ||
| animimotus | hi | 10:28 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch: worst part is, work is not even busy | 10:29 |
| Fujitsu | Hi animimotus. | 10:29 |
| animimotus | a stupid question perhaps... why is it there no gnome-latest deposit like kde-latest like on kubuntu.org ? | 10:29 |
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: that's pretty ridiculous | 10:29 |
| Hobbsee | animimotus: because each release, ubuntu releases with the latest gnome anyway | 10:29 |
| ajmitch | Burgundavia: network-auth spec is up for discussion tomorrow, I talked with mdz to get it scheduled | 10:29 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch: and it is a 5 hour flight. I could leave early tomorrow morning and be there by 11am | 10:30 |
| Burgundavia | ajmitch: excellent | 10:30 |
| Hobbsee | animimotus: the ubuntu release cycles are centred around gnome release schedules | 10:30 |
| ajmitch | anyway, I need to get to bed so I can get up early | 10:30 |
| animimotus | Hobbsee, ok so we are sure to have always the latest gnome's development in our system ? | 10:31 |
| Burgundavia | animimotus: yes | 10:31 |
| Hobbsee | animimotus: yes | 10:31 |
| animimotus | life is so good :) | 10:31 |
| Burgundavia | yes, we treat you right | 10:32 |
| Burgundavia | you develop on GNOME? | 10:32 |
| animimotus | Burgundavia, not al all, I'm a simple user | 10:33 |
| Burgundavia | ah | 10:33 |
| animimotus | I have just notice some bugs on Evolution, I thought it was already declared on Launchpad but the bug is still here til several month now | 10:35 |
| Burgundavia | animimotus: evo has the 2nd highest bug count of any part of GNOME, afaik | 10:35 |
| Hobbsee | Burgundavia: what's the first? | 10:36 |
| Burgundavia | gtk or nautilus, I think | 10:36 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 10:36 |
| Burgundavia | bringing up the stats now | 10:36 |
| Burgundavia | http://bugzilla.gnome.org/reports/weekly-bug-summary.cgi | 10:36 |
| Burgundavia | sorry, evo is now #1 | 10:37 |
| animimotus | it's horrible :o :p the mail pages don't renderer pretty good like in Thunderbird, text sort from boxes and so on | 10:37 |
| Burgundavia | mails not rendering is another issue entirely | 10:37 |
| Burgundavia | due to the html rendering engine they use | 10:38 |
| animimotus | frightened ^^ | 10:38 |
| Burgundavia | basically, gtkhtml doesn't understand css | 10:40 |
| animimotus | Burgundavia, I thought it was the priority because it makes not really serious : the mailbox is the first we can see when we test Gnome for the first time... Newbie should jump out their chair :D | 10:40 |
| Burgundavia | evo is bieng worked on | 10:40 |
| animimotus | Burgundavia, like Internet Explorer ? :p | 10:40 |
| Burgundavia | novell has several people working on it from their Indian office | 10:41 |
| Burgundavia | no, there is real working being done | 10:41 |
| Burgundavia | but look at those bugs/opened closed numbers | 10:41 |
| animimotus | so it a good novel :) | 10:41 |
| Burgundavia | the huge numbers are mostly related to GNOME shipping a new crash tool that reports the bug to the gnome bugzilla | 10:42 |
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| animimotus | sorry, I'm back :) | 10:47 |
| Burgundavia | animimotus: did you see my last line, about the huge numbers of bugs? | 10:48 |
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| animimotus | ctrl + W... lol | 10:49 |
| animimotus | erf | 10:49 |
| Burgundavia | animimotus: did you see my last line, about the huge bug numbers? | 10:49 |
| animimotus | yes I have seen the line, this bugreported can be integrated in Edgy . | 10:49 |
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| animimotus | bugreporter | 10:50 |
| animimotus | ? | 10:50 |
| animimotus | mr_pouit, hi dear :p | 10:50 |
| mr_pouit | hi animimotus ;) | 10:50 |
| animimotus | Burgundavia, it a friend I have, mr_pouit :p | 10:51 |
| animimotus | * it's | 10:51 |
| Burgundavia | hello | 10:51 |
| Burgundavia | sadly I need to sleep | 10:51 |
| animimotus | Burgundavia, nice night, thanks for your respons | 10:52 |
| Fujitsu | Goodnight, Burgundavia. | 10:52 |
| animimotus | well I hope that Novell can always feel free working on Evolution... now they work with (for ?) Microsoft... | 10:53 |
| animimotus | I ask myselft if Evolution could be the Outlook killer :\ | 10:56 |
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| fernando | moin all | 11:58 |
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| crimsun | Gloubiboulga: hi, if you or jani are going to take care of the gxine merge, I've already pushed it to bzr. I'm away for two days. | 12:00 |
| Gloubiboulga | crimsun: great, thanks :) | 12:00 |
| crimsun | [https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-core-dev/+branch/gxine/ubuntu , that is] | 12:01 |
| crimsun | ->airport | 12:01 |
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| gnomefreak | are we able to start merging for feisty yet? | 12:05 |
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| crimsun | yes | 12:06 |
| gnomefreak | ok ty i guess nows a good time to try my hand at it again | 12:06 |
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| tarzeau | where can i find a person who maintains the ubuntu package that i get bug reports about? | 12:44 |
| tarzeau | i maintain it in debian, and it works perfect for me, but ubuntu removes files and makes the software not work anymore | 12:44 |
| tarzeau | this is really annoying to me, because i have no chance to fix bugs in ubuntu | 12:44 |
| Gloubiboulga | tarzeau: which package is it? | 12:45 |
| tarzeau | Gloubiboulga: gtamsanalyzer.app | 12:46 |
| tarzeau | the bug reporter says there's no binaries in the package | 12:46 |
| tarzeau | but there is for me in mine | 12:46 |
| tarzeau | guess i'll just tell him to use debian and this url: http://people.debian.org/~daniel//documents/ubuntu.html | 12:46 |
| tarzeau | i have no shell account on any ubuntu systems, nor do i know a person i can redirect him to | 12:47 |
| Gloubiboulga | strange, because we use your package | 12:47 |
| Gloubiboulga | http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/g/gtamsanalyzer.app/gtamsanalyzer.app_0.42-3/changelog | 12:47 |
| tarzeau | dpkg -L gtamsanalyzer.app | wc -l | 12:47 |
| tarzeau | can you tell me what that gives to you? | 12:47 |
| Gloubiboulga | sure, let me install it | 12:47 |
| tarzeau | then it must be this users problem | 12:47 |
| tarzeau | he says he has 0.42-3 | 12:48 |
| Gloubiboulga | gauvain@joe:~/dev/paquets/pyxfce$ dpkg -L gtamsanalyzer.app | wc -l | 12:48 |
| Gloubiboulga | 26 | 12:48 |
| tarzeau | but wait | 12:48 |
| tarzeau | looking at dpkg -L gtamsanalyzer.app , it has no Application folder anymore | 12:49 |
| Gloubiboulga | I'm really not familiar with all these .app apps | 12:50 |
| tarzeau | Gloubiboulga: that's fine, there really is a problem, i'm checking it | 12:50 |
| Gloubiboulga | ok | 12:50 |
| tarzeau | yeah -2 had the files, -3 doesn't anymore | 12:51 |
| tarzeau | haha i know what's wrong | 12:53 |
| tarzeau | my sponsor would tells me how to do things, then i do it, but of course he doesn't check if the changes HE wanted so much would break anything (oh well, i'll fix this) | 12:54 |
| tarzeau | sorry to bother | 12:55 |
| Gloubiboulga | no problem | 12:57 |
| sivang | re motus | 01:32 |
| Hobbsee | hey sivang! | 01:32 |
| === sivang hugs Hobbsee | ||
| sivang | Hobbsee: how's it going ? | 01:33 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 01:33 |
| === Hobbsee hugs sivang back | ||
| Hobbsee | sivang: good, assignments and the like | 01:33 |
| sivang | Hobbsee: assignemnets? | 01:33 |
| Hobbsee | siu | 01:33 |
| Hobbsee | sivang: uni | 01:33 |
| Hobbsee | sivang: exams next week | 01:33 |
| sivang | Hobbsee: ah :) | 01:33 |
| sivang | Hobbsee: good | 01:33 |
| === sivang wonders who was mario_ that pinged earlier today | ||
| sivang | (on -devel) | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee | i've finished the last assignmetn, and am wondering what to do nwo :P | 01:34 |
| sivang | heh | 01:34 |
| sivang | Hobbsee: wanna help a rocking desktop backup solution ? ;) | 01:35 |
| Hobbsee | maybe | 01:35 |
| Hobbsee | sivang: i can tell you what files you need to remove for a restore for kde to work :) | 01:35 |
| sivang | and get your hands dirty with some cool yet highly readable and understandable python code? :) | 01:35 |
| Hobbsee | my python skills arent good | 01:35 |
| sivang | Hobbsee: feel free to add this on the wiki page, or else it'll get los t:) | 01:35 |
| Hobbsee | however, i'd like a look | 01:35 |
| sivang | Hobbsee: please, do, if you have ANY questions, you know I'm more then happy to answer you | 01:36 |
| Gloubiboulga | hello sivang | 01:36 |
| sivang | hi Gloubiboulga ! | 01:36 |
| sivang | Gloubiboulga: how you benen doing mate? | 01:36 |
| sivang | Gloubiboulga: are you in uds-mtv ? | 01:36 |
| Gloubiboulga | sivang: unfortunately no | 01:36 |
| Gloubiboulga | sivang: someone on a -fr chan seems interested in hubackup and would know if it will we able to backup /etc at some point | 01:37 |
| Gloubiboulga | sivang: are you in uds-mtv by the way ? | 01:38 |
| sivang | Gloubiboulga: it would, yes, the fesity+1 goal for is to be able to do systeam area backups | 01:38 |
| Hobbsee | sivang: where is this wiki? | 01:39 |
| sivang | Hobbsee: wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup? | 01:40 |
| sivang | ;-) | 01:40 |
| Hobbsee | ah | 01:40 |
| Gloubiboulga | sivang: ok, great :) | 01:40 |
| sivang | Hobbsee: if you plan to get dirty with PyQT, then you already know that my dear dear friend Jonathan would be exciting to see QT frontend | 01:41 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 01:41 |
| Hobbsee | sivang: i know almost *none* of python, so... | 01:41 |
| Hobbsee | then again, i do have uni break soon... | 01:42 |
| sivang | Hobbsee: python is nothiing to be known :) | 01:42 |
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| Hobbsee | well, yeah, but still | 01:42 |
| sivang | Hobbsee: you just start talking to it and it will flow, trust me ;) | 01:42 |
| jsgotangco | hey guys | 01:43 |
| sivang | Hobbsee: really, this is not joke | 01:43 |
| sivang | Hobbsee: it's like the nicest going language I've put my hands on to | 01:44 |
| sivang | hey jsgotangco :) | 01:44 |
| Hobbsee | sivang: yes, so i've seen, from the little i've played with it | 01:44 |
| === Hobbsee is still reading the wiki page | ||
| jsgotangco | python? | 01:44 |
| Hobbsee | sivang: found the first bug | 01:45 |
| Hobbsee | jsgotangco: yes | 01:45 |
| sivang | Hobbsee: ? | 01:45 |
| Hobbsee | sivang: "otherwise you could loose " in one of the screenshots - should be "lose" | 01:45 |
| Hobbsee | and s/an/a/ | 01:45 |
| Hobbsee | in that same screenshot | 01:45 |
| sivang | Hobbsee: well, sudo apt-get hubackup, see if the error is there as well, if you can't find the error there, then just open a typo bug. | 01:46 |
| Hobbsee | sivang: you've not got english as a first language, right? | 01:46 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 01:46 |
| Hobbsee | i've only got edgy on here, will that do? | 01:46 |
| sivang | Hobbsee: no, I have not :) | 01:46 |
| Hobbsee | didnt think so | 01:46 |
| sivang | Hobbsee: sure! edgy has the latest development in it | 01:46 |
| sivang | Hobbsee: but the screenshots were not made by me | 01:47 |
| sivang | Hobbsee: so you can't blame me for this :p | 01:47 |
| Hobbsee | yep | 01:47 |
| Hobbsee | haha | 01:47 |
| sivang | Hobbsee: also, I think I'm far from considering typo bugs to be real bugs yet ! :-p | 01:48 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 01:48 |
| Hobbsee | yeah, that's true | 01:49 |
| Hobbsee | i just noticed them - it's a pet peeve of mine | 01:49 |
| Hobbsee | work's terrible with them | 01:49 |
| sivang | Hobbsee: it's a good thing you notice them, file respective bugs :) I almost didn't touch any of the widgets since glatzor provided them to me, so most probably the bug is apparent in the software itself. | 01:52 |
| Hobbsee | sivang: right | 01:52 |
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| kiko | hey there | 02:27 |
| kiko | ajmitch, can you rescue me from bug 30701 again? | 02:27 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 30701 in zodb "python2.4-zodb should depend on python2.4-zopeinterface?" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/30701 | 02:27 |
| Hobbsee | kiko: he's asleep | 02:27 |
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| xopher | Hi! Could someone tell me how I can sign packages when building with pbuilder? Is there an option I can add to pbuilderrc? | 02:45 |
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| Adri2000 | xopher: you have to sign during the debuild -S (source package) | 02:54 |
| xopher | so extending DEBBUILDOPTS="-sa" to DEBBUILDOPTS="-sa --debsign-k user@mail.com" ? | 02:58 |
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| gnomefreak | xopher: i think i had to do that once. i cant remember if i set it in ~/.pbuilderrc or ~/.gnupg though | 03:19 |
| jonh_wendell | geser, what does SRU mean? | 03:19 |
| xopher | hmm, ok, what about the DEBSIGN= option? | 03:19 |
| geser | (S)table (R)elease (U)pdate | 03:20 |
| geser | jonh_wendell: see also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Acronyms for some other used acronyms | 03:21 |
| jonh_wendell | geser: if you want, you can put the new .deb for octplot in somewhere so that a friend of mine can test it | 03:24 |
| geser | the one for AMD64? | 03:24 |
| jonh_wendell | geser: hummm i guess he uses 386... | 03:26 |
| geser | I will see I can rebuild it for i386 also | 03:27 |
| jonh_wendell | geser: no chance of new version (from debian) enter in edgy-updates, right? | 03:29 |
| geser | hard to say, it depends how the MOTU-SRU team decides | 03:30 |
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| bersace | Hi all !!!! | 03:31 |
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| geser | as octplot is currently uninstallable in edgy and if the new version works (and the rebuild one not) it might get in | 03:32 |
| jonh_wendell | geser: that's great | 03:33 |
| bersace | i've just uploaded enblend, with enable image blending in hugin | 03:36 |
| bersace | please review | 03:36 |
| bersace | oh | 03:37 |
| bersace | f*** | 03:37 |
| bersace | dput automatically upload to ubuntu | 03:37 |
| bersace | not revu | 03:37 |
| bersace | :| | 03:37 |
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| bersace | ok | 03:39 |
| bersace | i uploaded enblend 2.5 to revu | 03:39 |
| bersace | seems its not shown at revu.tauware.de | 03:39 |
| bersace | siretart: ping | 03:40 |
| siretart | bersace: You sent me a contentless ping. This is a contentless pong. Please provide a bit of information about what you want and I'll respond when I am around. | 03:40 |
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| bersace | siretart: ? | 03:41 |
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| Adri2000 | bersace: your package is currently in incoming | 03:41 |
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| bersace | Adri2000: any url ? | 03:41 |
| Adri2000 | ftp://revu.tauware.de/incoming/ but it is not anymore | 03:42 |
| bersace | got it | 03:42 |
| Adri2000 | :) | 03:42 |
| bersace | http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3388 | 03:42 |
| bersace | oh | 03:43 |
| bersace | seems that enblend had already package candidate :\ | 03:44 |
| bersace | but very old | 03:45 |
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| ajmitch | morning all | 04:11 |
| xerxas | Hi ajmitch | 04:17 |
| jsgotangco | hey | 04:17 |
| xerxas | fesity is accepting new packages already ? | 04:17 |
| jsgotangco | got dist-upgrade itch? heh | 04:17 |
| ajmitch | yes, new packages are being accepted | 04:18 |
| superm1 | ajmitch, did the MOTU/SRU process get defined the last few days? I remember seeing chatter that it was supposed to be finished over the weekend, but I haven't looked into it yet | 04:19 |
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| ajmitch | superm1: I believe so, I'm not entirely sure since I'm not in the sru team | 04:19 |
| superm1 | do you know who was put on it? | 04:19 |
| ajmitch | yes, look at https://launchpad.net/people/motu-sru | 04:20 |
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| xerxas | ajmitch, so I can start packaging some new stuff | 04:21 |
| xerxas | didn't knew about it ! | 04:21 |
| xerxas | :) | 04:21 |
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| bddebian | Heya gang | 04:25 |
| lfittl | hey bddebian | 04:26 |
| bddebian | Hi lfittl | 04:26 |
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| animimotus | test | 04:44 |
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| siretart | bersace: yes? | 04:53 |
| bersace | siretart: i've uploaded another debianisation of enblend | 04:53 |
| bersace | i didn't saw it where already uploaded | 04:53 |
| bersace | would be nice to have it included universe | 04:53 |
| siretart | bersace: yes | 04:54 |
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| jonh_wendell | geser: should i test the 0.3.5 or 0.3.9 ? | 05:25 |
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| geser | jonh_wendell: if possible both | 05:39 |
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| geser | if you can verify that 0.3.5 is broken and 0.3.9 works, the motu-sru team has more reasons to accept it into edgy-updates | 05:41 |
| jonh_wendell | geser: ok, i've invited my friend to test both; i'll inform you the results | 05:43 |
| jonh_wendell | geser: thanks | 05:43 |
| geser | please add the results also to the bug report | 05:44 |
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| jonh_wendell | geser: ok | 05:45 |
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| martijn | Hello, I'd like to get my hands dirty building some packages :) I'm trying to follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PackagingBasics, But I have troubles setting up pbuilder. | 06:51 |
| martijn | I get "E: debootstrap does not exist, install or change DEBOOTSTRAP option" | 06:52 |
| Mez | martijn, sudo apt-get install pbuilder | 06:52 |
| martijn | I did that already | 06:52 |
| martijn | Oh wait, I didn't install debootstrap :) | 06:53 |
| Mez | ;) | 06:53 |
| Mez | it should be a dependency I though | 06:53 |
| kiko | ei ajmitch | 06:53 |
| martijn | Maybe a bug? | 06:53 |
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| Mez | Depends: debootstrap | cdebootstrap, wget, gcc, debianutils (>= 1.13.1), coreutils (>= 4.5.8-1) | 06:54 |
| martijn | Does setting up a pbuilder environment require a lot of downloading? I'm not on a great internet connection | 06:54 |
| Mez | martijn, not much - but a bit, as does using it | 06:54 |
| Mez | martijn, how did you install pbuildeR? | 06:54 |
| martijn | sudo apt-get install pbuilder. I just repeated that command when you mentioned it before, and it reported "pbuilder is already the newest version" | 06:55 |
| geser | martijn: the base.tgz has about 80 MB | 06:55 |
| martijn | then I did "sudo apt-get install debuilder", just for good measure, and it started installing that. | 06:55 |
| martijn | I mean debootstrap | 06:56 |
| === fdoving suggest cowbuilder (wrapper for pbuilder, it's in the cowdancer package) | ||
| martijn | fdoving: thanks, but I think I'll start by following the Packagingbasics tutorial step by step | 06:57 |
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| ajmitch | hey kiko | 07:02 |
| luisbg | hey ajmitch | 07:04 |
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| martijn | Mez, I just checked: I had cdebootstrap installed, so that is why it didn't install debootstrap | 07:12 |
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| kiko | ajmitch! | 07:13 |
| kiko | was wondering if I could interest you in bug 30701 | 07:14 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 30701 in zodb "python2.4-zodb should depend on python2.4-zopeinterface?" [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/30701 | 07:14 |
| martijn | question: after pbuilder finished, the result is in base.tgz, right? Can I copy this file around between systems so I don't have to download everything again? | 07:16 |
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| amarillion | If I want to get a package into REVU, does it matter for which ubuntu version I build it? Only feisty, or also edgy/dapper? | 07:28 |
| Gloubiboulga | it needs to be built for feisty | 07:32 |
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| Zdra | is universe open for upload in feisty ? | 08:02 |
| Adri2000 | Zdra: yes | 08:03 |
| LaserJock | I don't think so yet | 08:03 |
| LaserJock | it is? | 08:03 |
| LaserJock | hmm, could be, I hadn't noticed | 08:03 |
| Adri2000 | I think yes, Gloubiboulga have just uploaded a package in universe for me | 08:03 |
| LaserJock | it's kinda pointless at the moment, IMO | 08:03 |
| === Zdra wants telepathy updates :) | ||
| LaserJock | Zdra: what do you mean? | 08:04 |
| Zdra | now that universe is open we can upload new telepathy-* updates :) | 08:04 |
| LaserJock | sure, but I don't think it's of much use right now | 08:05 |
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| LaserJock | I don't know if the tool chain is stable yet | 08:05 |
| Zdra | LaserJock: main has many uploads now so I guess the toolchain is ok ... | 08:06 |
| LaserJock | well | 08:06 |
| Adri2000 | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty/+source/brasero/0.5.0-0ubuntu1 < that's universe :) | 08:06 |
| LaserJock | Adri2000: ah, I did see that one roll by today | 08:06 |
| LaserJock | I'm just waiting until after the UDS is over | 08:07 |
| LaserJock | the archive admins are so very busy right now I don't want to put any load on them | 08:07 |
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| amarillion | question: after pbuilder finished, the result is in base.tgz, right? Can I copy this file around between systems so I don't have to download everything again? | 08:12 |
| geser | yes | 08:12 |
| LaserJock | well, the base.tgz is the pbuilder | 08:12 |
| amarillion | ok great. | 08:13 |
| amarillion | For me, it takes quite a while to set up. | 08:13 |
| LaserJock | yep | 08:13 |
| amarillion | It's running for over an hour now | 08:13 |
| LaserJock | it's making a minimal Ubuntu install so it can take a while | 08:14 |
| joejaxx | Hello Everyone | 08:14 |
| LaserJock | hi joejaxx | 08:14 |
| amarillion | I'm going to try to package a few allegro plugins. I think they will make useful packages. | 08:14 |
| joejaxx | i hope you all are doing well | 08:14 |
| joejaxx | :D | 08:14 |
| joejaxx | LaserJock: hello | 08:14 |
| LaserJock | joejaxx: how's the BOFs today? | 08:14 |
| joejaxx | they are well | 08:15 |
| amarillion | Allegro is a game programming library | 08:15 |
| joejaxx | i just came from the ubuntustudio bof | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | joejaxx: there was one scheduled? | 08:15 |
| LaserJock | cool | 08:15 |
| joejaxx | yeah | 08:15 |
| joejaxx | 10am | 08:15 |
| joejaxx | well the mirror stopped at kdenetworkconf | 08:17 |
| joejaxx | failed:Unkown command. | 08:17 |
| kiko | hey joejaxx, got my mail? | 08:17 |
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| joejaxx | kiko: i might have i have to go through the 63 new emails i just received | 08:18 |
| joejaxx | kiko: yes i have | 08:20 |
| LaserJock | argg, there's a MOTU BOF right now? | 08:20 |
| joejaxx | kiko: thank you :) | 08:20 |
| kiko | joejaxx, good! | 08:20 |
| joejaxx | kiko: :D | 08:20 |
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| giskard | Zdra: i'm doing it right now | 09:41 |
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| LaserJock | crappy | 09:49 |
| LaserJock | Scibuntu hit the forums | 09:49 |
| kiko | the forums are merciless | 09:49 |
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| zul | ubuntu science? | 09:50 |
| LaserJock | zul: it's a nifty little script that just does a bit apt-get install ... | 09:53 |
| LaserJock | plus install acroread straight from Adobe | 09:53 |
| LaserJock | and 1 other app that I have no idea what it is | 09:53 |
| fernando | hi joejaxx | 09:53 |
| zul | cool...lunch time | 09:57 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: Our forums? | 10:01 |
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| LaserJock | Fujitsu: ubuntuforums.org | 10:03 |
| LaserJock | Education and Science subforum | 10:03 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: I just found the thread :( | 10:03 |
| LaserJock | I'm writing a reply right now | 10:03 |
| Fujitsu | Oh god. | 10:03 |
| Fujitsu | Somebody suggested adding it to the wiki. | 10:03 |
| Fujitsu | We're doomed now. | 10:03 |
| Fujitsu | How nice of it to break Beryl. | 10:04 |
| Fujitsu | It's crack vs. crack! | 10:04 |
| bhale | what is the "reaction to the burn effect" | 10:04 |
| bhale | that whiprush just blogged | 10:04 |
| gnomefreak | what broke beryl? | 10:05 |
| Fujitsu | gnomefreak: That Scibuntu script. | 10:06 |
| LaserJock | scibuntu | 10:06 |
| Fujitsu | Grrreat. Somebody complaining that texmacs won't install, because they've compiled emacs from CVS. | 10:06 |
| gnomefreak | i didnt know there was one | 10:06 |
| Fujitsu | gnomefreak: Neither did we until yesterday. | 10:06 |
| LaserJock | well, it looks like it got started on the 4th | 10:07 |
| LaserJock | so not a lot of time for people to hear about it ;-) | 10:08 |
| Fujitsu | Have you replied to that thread? | 10:08 |
| Fujitsu | And should we run off an email to Mr. Scibuntu himself? | 10:08 |
| LaserJock | working on it | 10:08 |
| LaserJock | trying to figure out how to politely say "This is insane" | 10:08 |
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| gnomefreak | other than the child education science stuff i didnt know there was science apps. are they all written by 3rd parties? | 10:10 |
| Fujitsu | gnomefreak: Check https://launchpad.net/people/motuscience. | 10:10 |
| Fujitsu | That's a list of all science stuff. | 10:10 |
| gnomefreak | ty | 10:10 |
| Fujitsu | Oops, add a /+packagebugs to the end of that. | 10:10 |
| Fujitsu | Also: | 10:11 |
| Fujitsu | http://tiber.tauware.de/~laserjock/motuscience/feisty/all.html | 10:11 |
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| Fujitsu | That's probably a better list. | 10:11 |
| LaserJock | ok, replied | 10:11 |
| gnomefreak | i hope so theres nothing on the first page after hitting packages :) | 10:11 |
| LaserJock | gnomefreak: MOTU Science looks after > 450 science related packages | 10:11 |
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| gnomefreak | omg | 10:12 |
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| LaserJock | we could include more | 10:12 |
| LaserJock | but we have quite enough as it is | 10:13 |
| Fujitsu | We do. | 10:13 |
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| Fujitsu | 165 open bugs... :( | 10:13 |
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| giskard | who is working on beryl? | 10:26 |
| LaserJock | several people I think | 10:28 |
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| LaserJock | quinn storm is the main one I think | 10:29 |
| Fujitsu | How odd... The BeautifulSoup on my server in the US seems to have decided it wants to return Null for everything. | 10:31 |
| giskard | LaserJock: also for Ubuntu? i was wondering if a motu wanted upload it. | 10:31 |
| LaserJock | giskard: I believe quinn has been working with several people here | 10:32 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: excellent :( | 10:32 |
| Fujitsu | So I can't run my bug page parser there, to get the statuses etc. of science bugs :( | 10:32 |
| giskard | LaserJock: i know that reggaemanu and Amaranth are working on it, but they are not motu afaik :( i'd be happy to sponsor it. | 10:33 |
| LaserJock | any motu can sponsor it | 10:33 |
| giskard | LaserJock: yes :) | 10:34 |
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| LaserJock | Fujitsu: edgy, feisty, and bug list updated | 10:36 |
| Fujitsu | LaserJock: Why not put it on a cron job or three? | 10:37 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: at the moment I'm still transferring it from my box | 10:38 |
| LaserJock | and I haven't gotten passwordless ssh | 10:38 |
| LaserJock | yet | 10:38 |
| LaserJock | I can at least do a cron to create the lists here | 10:39 |
| LaserJock | I've just never cronned anything so I just never thing to do it ;-) | 10:39 |
| Fujitsu | Why don't you create the lists on tiber, rather than transferring them to there? | 10:39 |
| LaserJock | Fujitsu: because tiber doesn't have the mdt we need | 10:40 |
| Fujitsu | Ah. | 10:40 |
| Fujitsu | I run a private version in my home directory, in fact. | 10:40 |
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| LaserJock | hmm, that's a thought | 10:41 |
| Fujitsu | You just need to reconfigure it to point to the correct module directory. | 10:41 |
| LaserJock | right | 10:41 |
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