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| shwag | Why does php5-gd attempt to install laptop-detect and x11-common as dependencies ? | 12:53 |
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| infinity | shwag: Because it wants x11-common as a libXpm dependency to be able to manipulate XPM images, and x11-common depends on laptop-detect. | 12:57 |
| shwag | infinity: how did you figure that out? is there a way to get a dependency tree? | 12:58 |
| infinity | And, for the record, the total installed size of both those packages is smaller than mhy .ssh/authorized_keys, so I'm not sure why people complain about it. | 12:58 |
| infinity | (x11-common doesn't mean "I just installed X") | 12:58 |
| infinity | shwag: I know how to use my packaging tools. On the other hand, I also maintain PHP, so I'm at an unfair advantage. | 12:58 |
| shwag | well its just kinda funny when you are installing php5-gd libraries and the next thing you know you are install laptop-detect on your server. | 12:59 |
| infinity | Yeah, x11-common's dependency on laptop-detect is... Interesting. | 01:00 |
| infinity | (THough it's a tiny little script, and it doesn't really make a difference to have it there, it's merely the package *name* that offends people) | 01:00 |
| shwag | x11-comon is no big deal...fonts, makes sense. Its the laptop-detect that makes people go... uhh..whaaaa | 01:01 |
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| techwhore | yello there. | 06:56 |
| techwhore | you guys work with gadmintools ? | 06:56 |
| infinity | Nope;. | 06:59 |
| infinity | We don't install X, generally. :) | 06:59 |
| techwhore | that doesn't mean one can do an ssh and export display, right ? | 07:00 |
| techwhore | i mean, isn't the ubuntu-server group goal to create some sort of Linux Server with the same guidelines as ubuntu desktop ? | 07:00 |
| techwhore | in other word, easy, graphic adminstration of linux servers ? | 07:01 |
| Burgwork | there are ways to admin a server graphically without needing to install X on the server | 07:05 |
| Burgwork | that is part of this teams goal | 07:05 |
| techwhore | yup, and what tools do you guys use or encourage the usage of ? | 07:05 |
| infinity | No, honestly, that's not our goal. | 07:33 |
| Burgwork | infinity: rain on my parade will you | 07:33 |
| infinity | If people want to work on easy administration, I'm all for it, but it's certainly not the primary goal of ubuntu server. | 07:34 |
| infinity | We're far more concerned in enterprise-class stability and package selection. | 07:34 |
| Burgwork | true | 07:34 |
| techwhore | it seems to me that both goals are not exclusive. | 07:41 |
| techwhore | good. | 07:41 |
| techwhore | thanks dude. | 07:41 |
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| shwag | how come when I sudo useradd newuser .... it doesnt create a /home/newuser ? | 10:12 |
| ivoks | sudo adduser | 10:12 |
| ivoks | useradd just creates user in /etc/passwd | 10:13 |
| techwhore | please read the topic. | 10:13 |
| ivoks | :) | 10:13 |
| shwag | techwhore: what about the topic ? | 10:16 |
| jbrouhard | shwag: try adduser | 10:29 |
| jbrouhard | it's a script that asks you a few questions i believe | 10:29 |
| shwag | jbrouhard: yah...adduser works. useradd doesnt create directories though. That was rather ambiguous. | 10:31 |
| jbrouhard | adduser is just a script | 10:33 |
| jbrouhard | that calls useradd | 10:33 |
| jbrouhard | with a bunch of options | 10:33 |
| jbrouhard | anyway | 10:33 |
| jbrouhard | afk i go | 10:33 |
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| techwhore | shwag | 11:00 |
| techwhore | -m, --create-home | 11:00 |
| techwhore | The users home directory will be created if it does not exist. The | 11:00 |
| techwhore | from useradd manpage | 11:00 |
| shwag | techwhore: thats what it says...but it actually doesnt exist | 11:04 |
| shwag | techwhore: adduser rather then useradd fixes the problem though | 11:04 |
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