[12:01] <bruenig> ruzgar, why do you wish to backup the packages list?
[12:01] <ey> ifireball what command allowes me to close a message from another user on my server?
[12:01] <ey> :)
[12:01] <sethk> aztun, but perhaps you are more familiar with it than I am.  (although mine works)
[12:01] <ruzgar> when i reinstall ubuntu
[12:01] <aztun> maybe sethk
[12:01] <ruzgar> i want to install al packages automotic
[12:01] <aztun> root@lepetika:~# cat /etc/sysctl.conf | grep forw
[12:01] <aztun> # Uncomment the next line to enable packet forwarding for IPv4
[12:01] <aztun> net.ipv4.conf.default.forwarding=1
[12:01] <kapten> a swedish guy!
[12:02] <ifireball> ey: since it doesn't "open" there isn't a command to close it, you jsut press enter if if confuses you
[12:02] <bruenig> ruzgar, so do you mean the packages you have installed?
[12:02] <ey> ifireball i am learning about unix :S so i need help .how do i close on a another user
[12:02] <ruzgar> yes bruenig
[12:02] <ey> ifireball i mean i dont want his message .but i wanna stay longer on my chatt
[12:02] <ey> ifireball i just wanna block him
[12:03] <nasragiel> where can i save a command that it is executed before xorg starts?
[12:03] <sisqonrwwwwwwww> when i start my webcam with video0 or video1 or with camstream xubuntu crashes. can someon help me?
[12:03] <bruenig> ruzgar, all the packages you have downloaded and installed are likely to be in /var/cache/apt/archives
[12:03] <ruzgar> umm ok
[12:03] <ruzgar> tx
[12:03] <asdf_> AlReece45: Yes, but it does not detect my wireless
[12:03] <sethk> nasragiel, you mean you want it to execute whether X starts or not, or you want to execute it when X starts up?
[12:04] <ifireball> ey: you use the mesg vommand; e.g. "mesg n" to blocl all messages to your terminal
[12:04] <nasragiel> wheter x starts or not, i have to use 915resolution, maybe you know this tool
[12:04] <aztun> cant find how to see if packet_forwarding is active on /proc/net
[12:04] <cryptonic> has anyone here successfully installed wengophone 2 on ubuntu?
[12:04] <crimsun> 915resolution has its own initscript, nasragiel.
[12:04] <razorhack> Hello everybody! I've jbeen trying to install ubuntu 6.10 on my dell 640M laptop. But the liveCD won't even start.  I get a an xserver error and then everything stops after fck --> (ok) message. I am stumped :)
[12:05] <crimsun> nasragiel: in edgy that script is run prior to any desktop manager being invoked (which starts X)
[12:05] <bruenig> ruzgar, there is not some central list, you can make a list and then do some editing to make it easier to automate an install later
[12:05] <asdf_> AlReece45: do you know where the config setitngs are for network-manager
[12:05] <sethk> nasragiel, probably /etc/rc.local
[12:05] <ruzgar> ok
[12:05] <nasragiel> seth_|, thanks
[12:06] <CurleySue> anyone can help with exiting fluxbox?
[12:06] <nasragiel> crimsun, i found it, but it does not start obviosly, how can i make it starting on boot?
[12:06] <sethk> nasragiel, someone said it has an init script though.  If it does, then that script simply needs to be linked to the run level directory.  perhaps the script isn't using the options you want.
[12:06] <aztun> root@lepetika:~# sysctl -q net.ipv4.conf.default.forwarding
[12:06] <aztun> net.ipv4.conf.default.forwarding = 1
[12:06] <ifireball> CurleySue: ctrl+alt+backspace will most certaily exit it... (although rather violently)
[12:06] <aztun> root@lepetika:~# sysctl -q net.ipv4.conf.default.forwarding
[12:06] <aztun> net.ipv4.conf.default.forwarding = 1
[12:06] <aztun> what a shit
[12:06] <aztun> packet forwarding is active
[12:06] <ey> ifireball thanks
[12:06] <aztun> but doesnt work
[12:07] <ifireball> aztun: make sure iptable isn't blocking your traffic
[12:07] <nasragiel> sethk, it is, ive checked it already
[12:07] <sethk> aztun, run the route command (with no arguments), and put the output on the paste bot
[12:07] <nasragiel> but i dont know how to add it to a runlevel
[12:07] <AlReece45> asdf_: too unfortunate. I'm not 100% sure, but /etc/network/interfaces might be the file that network-manager uses
[12:07] <CurleySue> ifireball: thanx, but I'm looking for a clean way... there's an exit FB command which I'd like to imitate in a bash script
[12:08] <cryptonic> is there a logs section to terminal?
[12:08] <ey> ifireball can i send to 3 ppl a message with just one text ,you know like this "write jeimz hi" but can i send with 1 command to 3 ppl
[12:08] <AlReece45> asdf_: note that's a file, its not in gconf
[12:08] <sethk> nasragiel, oh, you go to the directory for the run level, as in /etc/rc1.d, then you do:  ln -s /etc/init.d/scriptname
[12:08] <ey> ifireball please tell me if you dont understand me :(
[12:08] <nasragiel> ok, thank you! :)
[12:08] <sethk> nasragiel, that will make a link, named "scriptname" (which you change of course to the real name), in /etc/rc1.c
[12:08] <ey> ifireball my english is sick :<
[12:08] <aztun> how can I paste?
[12:08] <asdf_> AlReece45: I think that did it...I'm going to chekc
[12:08] <asdf_> thank you
[12:08] <sethk> nasragiel, rc1.d assuming you want runlevel 1.  you may want to put in more than one run level.
[12:09] <ifireball> ey: there is the wall command that send a mesasge to all users in the system, other then that you haev to use a script
[12:09] <sethk> aztun, you mean, how to use the paste web site, or how to get the stuff copied within linux?
[12:09] <sethk> !paste
[12:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[12:09] <sethk> aztun, paste, just in case.  :)
[12:09] <cheesy> how can i execute a *.bin file?
[12:10] <sethk> cheesy, file names in linux have no significance.  the fact that it is .bin doesn't tell you how to run it.  Probably you can do:   chmod +x whatever.bin, then do ./whatever.bin
[12:10] <aztun> ok
[12:10] <aztun> pasted on the web
[12:10] <ey> ifireball cant i use like this " write jeimz hello; write eko hello; write jack hello
[12:10] <rstanca> any tips on why acpi is not workin? default edgy install, worked with dapper, the error when starting acpid "No ACPI support in kernel, or incorrect acpi_path ("/proc/acpi")"
[12:10] <ey> ifireball cant it work?
[12:11] <sethk> aztun, ok, then paste the url here
[12:11] <ifireball> ey: no becasue write needs the input from the standatrd input channel, it can't read the message from the command line
[12:11] <aztun> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30555/
[12:11] <rstanca> sorry, thats for acpi, for acpid: acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: No such file or directory"
[12:11] <ifireball> ey: you can use echo "msg" | write user1; echo "msg" | write user2; ...
[12:12] <aztun> and this is config on my client machine
[12:12] <aztun> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30556/
[12:12] <angel_of_shadow> mode graphique ^^
[12:13] <sethk> aztun, that's the output of iptables.  I asked you for the output of route
[12:13] <aztun> on my server??
[12:13] <cheesy> thanks sethk
[12:13] <aztun> I have inet on my server
[12:13] <tarelerulz> I can't change my monitor from 640x680 and I have done auto detect and try to set it higher ,but x just get some error and then I have to set it back to what it was
[12:13] <sethk> aztun, wait, which paste is which?
[12:13] <bruenig> !xcfg
[12:13] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:13] <aztun> first one is iptables on my server
[12:13] <sethk> aztun, the second is route.
[12:13] <sethk> aztun, on the same server?
[12:13] <aztun> second one is route on my client
[12:13] <aztun> no
[12:13] <sethk> aztun, we need route on the server
[12:13] <aztun> different machines
[12:14] <aztun> I have inet on server
[12:14] <The_Belgain> hi there, quick question: how can a run a scandisk on a drive in ubuntu?  i'm not talking about checking the filesystem is good (I know it isn't), I want to check whether the drive is working (the equivalent of a surface scan in windows)?
[12:14] <sethk> tarelerulz, possibly your monitor isn't being automatically detected.  or your settings are incorrect for your video card, and it is defaulting to that resolution.   run   sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:15] <aztun> route on my server
[12:15] <aztun> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30557/
[12:15] <sethk> aztun, ok, let me look
[12:15] <||thunder> The_Belgain;  I looked for that once, gave up cuz I couldn't find it.
[12:15] <thalm> salute
[12:15] <aztun> I can ping 81.202.160.1 from the server but no from client
[12:15] <sethk> aztun, ok.  try running traceroute from your client.
[12:16] <sethk> aztun, try running traceroute (on the client) to 81.202.160.1
[12:16] <tarelerulz> other then not being about to change from 640X480 to anything high my screen works fine
[12:16] <sethk> aztun, the first hop should be the server.  see if you see any additional info after the first hop
[12:16] <sethk> tarelerulz, that's why I suggested you reconfigure your video
[12:16] <aztun> ups
[12:16] <sethk> tarelerulz, but if you are happy with 640x480 ... :)
[12:16] <aztun> have no traceroute installed on client, and no inet
[12:17] <thalm> i cant hear web radio with amarok, can so give me an hint? mp3/wav playback works
[12:17] <sethk> aztun, are you sure?  if it's a windows box, most of them do have traceroute, but named something like tracert
[12:17] <The_Belgain> so no ideas on how to run a scan?  i'm actually trying to verify whether my SATA controller is faulty....
[12:17] <aztun> I dont use windows
[12:17] <sethk> aztun, then put traceroute onto your client
[12:17] <tarelerulz> it works ,but I don't like the fact I can't change it. I have to move stuff around to see the bottom of some windows. That is lame
[12:17] <mcphail> The_Belgain: not sure about the scan, but check dmesg for errors
[12:18] <sethk> aztun, if it isn't windows, you can just copy it over there from your server (assuming they are the same processor family and running the same o/s)
[12:18] <aztun> ok
[12:18] <aztun> I will copy it
[12:18] <||thunder> aztun; don't know.  let me try.
[12:18] <||thunder> HEY. how do I scandisk a drive or part ?
[12:18] <SirKillalot> anyone here who uses a DLink Wifi Card?
[12:18] <sethk> The_Belgain, try badblocks
[12:18] <thalm> i cant hear web radio with amarok, can so give me an hint? mp3/wav playback works
[12:18] <Curley_Sue> any one knows how to set a logout script for fluxbox
[12:18] <qatsi> any idea why could i get "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"." when running glxgears ?
[12:19] <Acc\Deny> Hi, My question concerns the Alternate Install CD. While Installing in text mode, the screen went blank...last message seen was "Configuring xorg...". How do I stop it from configuring xorg? my board is 845 and i believe i have to first install the 915resolution package...   plus can I select which packages to skip at first install?
[12:19] <The_Belgain> i get the following errors in dmesg, and the drive gets kicked from my RAID array: [17179575.312000]  hde: set_geometry_intr: status=0x51 { DriveReady
[12:19] <The_Belgain> SeekComplete Error }
[12:19] <The_Belgain> [17179575.312000]  hde: set_geometry_intr: error=0x04 { DriveStatusError }
[12:19] <sethk> Curley_Sue, I don't know, but, you can always wrap the fluxbox startup command into a script, and then put whatever commands you want to run at the end of the script
[12:19] <jadacyrus> I have a question, how came Nvidia Drivers break when you install linux-restricted-modules ?!??
[12:19] <maxflax> The_Belgain, use a sledgehammer
[12:19] <jadacyrus> I
[12:19] <sethk> The_Belgain, those are log messages?  from running what program?
[12:19] <aztun> aztun@esplinter:~$ traceroute 81.202.160.1
[12:19] <aztun> traceroute: icmp socket: Operation not permitted
[12:19] <aztun> wtf?
[12:20] <Infecto> OpenGL version string: 2.0.6119 (8.30.3)
[12:20] <The_Belgain> those are from dmesg
[12:20] <sethk> aztun, might need to run with root privileges
[12:20] <jadacyrus> I'm pretty sure I need the linux-restricted-modules to get some of my devices working such as my webcam
[12:20] <Infecto> sry not here
[12:20] <sethk> aztun, or icmp may be blocked.  it's often blocked for security reasons.
[12:20] <qatsi> any idea why could i get "Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0"." when running glxgears ? (finally using xinerama)
[12:20] <maxflax> jadacyrus, what are stopping u then
[12:20] <jadacyrus> if you read above i said, when you install linux-restricted-modules is breaks nvidia driver
[12:20] <The_Belgain> more info at this link (in particular the third post): http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=116274603600002&r=1&w=2
[12:21] <jadacyrus> im on edgy w/ nvidia 9625 beta btw
[12:21] <sethk> qatsi, either kernel support for DRI isn't enabled, or DRI isn't included in xorg.conf as an extension to be loaded
[12:21] <jadacyrus> If I use the nvidia-glx drivers from the repo's...can I have the restricted modules installed?
[12:21] <aztun> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30559/
[12:21] <aztun> ???
[12:22] <qatsi> sethk: it was doing fine till I edited the xorg.conf to work with xinerama....but the xorg.conf looks the same :s
[12:22] <maxflax> jadacyrus, sounds strange..
[12:22] <rstanca> any tips on why acpi is not workin? default edgy install, worked with dapper, the error when starting acpi "No ACPI support in kernel, or incorrect acpi_path ("/proc/acpi")"
[12:22] <sethk> qatsi, look in your X log.  see if it tries to load DRI, see if there were any warnings
[12:22] <daschl> rstanca: what system do you use?
[12:23] <icesmurf> heyas, anyone know why the squid packages in edgy are now compiled without transproxy support?
[12:23] <jadacyrus> maxflax: on the howto i was reading for edgy + nvidia beta + aiglx, it states that you can't ahve the restricted modules installed with the beta driver
[12:23] <sun_> hi anyone know the name of the package which installs all the standard x-clients like xset, xterm, xmodmap etc?
[12:23] <rstanca> daschl: system?
[12:23] <sisqonrwwwwwwww> hi i get a report. after xawtv -c /dev/video    ....no overlay support. what can i do?
[12:23] <Curley_Sue> sethk: can u explain some more?
[12:23] <daschl> rstanca: your computer :)
[12:24] <sethk> Curley_Sue, I don't even remember what we were talking about.  :)
[12:24] <rstanca> daschl: some old matsonic motherboard with sis chipset
[12:24] <cheesy> is there someone who could help me installing aptana?
[12:24] <cheesy> just didn't get it
[12:24] <sethk> Curley_Sue, remind me
[12:24] <rstanca> daschl: no problem in dapper or any other distro :(
[12:24] <maxflax> jadacyrus, what do u need from the restricted then.. can't u compile those modules yourself`?
[12:24] <qatsi> sethk: it does load dri....unless it unloads it after that, i dont know whats up :S
[12:25] <aztun> dont understand
[12:25] <lllloo> hello peeps anyone know any places were i can find info on getting Audigy 4 cards to work properly?
[12:25] <sethk> qatsi, I don't think it can unload it, and even if it can, it would show up in the log.  Hmm...
[12:25] <aztun> I have done this with many different distros
[12:25] <aztun> in five minuts
[12:25] <aztun> and cant get it working on edgy
[12:25] <The_Belgain> so no hard drive scan suggestions :( ?
[12:25] <daschl> rstanca: hmm i can't locate your problem exactly, but maybe the kernel has changes slightly and so the ubuntu-acpi for your chipset is not working right.. wait a minute ill check the launchpad for bugs
[12:26] <slew> hi, is there an updated page for printing under edgy?
[12:26] <sethk> aztun, any particular reason why you need to be using edgy?  It's a very new release, has glitches here and there
[12:26] <qatsi> sethk: it says: Xinerama extension enabled, disabling direct rendering -- NoDRI = YES  ....could i prevent xinerama from disabling those ?
[12:26] <bcnl> anyone know a way to get HTTPFS to work with LUFS?
[12:26] <bcnl> there's no module for it
[12:26] <sethk> qatsi, hmm., I'm not sure.
[12:26] <ozubu> hi all
[12:26] <sethk> qatsi, do you have dri loading before, or after, xinerama in the config file?
[12:27] <aztun> yes sethk, I think I will stay on debian, dapper or mandriva
[12:27] <sethk> aztun, wait a couple of weeks, let edgy settle down
[12:27] <cheesy> can someone help me installing aptana please?
[12:27] <aztun> I think I will use debian
[12:27] <cheesy> i'm on edgy
[12:27] <ozubu> I have a question about Edgy Eft: How do I view the services starting during boot process (this was the default in Dapper) ?
[12:28] <aztun> well, at least I kept my previous installation on the other hd
[12:28] <aztun> so lets reboot
[12:28] <qatsi> sethk: as default...its before...but after the xinerama load, i have Section "DRI" Mode	0666 EndSection Section "Extensions" Option "Composite" "false" EndSection which i really dont know what they do....
[12:28] <aztun> many thanks for your help sethk
[12:28] <Curley_Sue> sethk: thanx... I am trying to create a logout script for exiting FB...
[12:28] <sun_> hi anyone know the name of the package which installs all the standard x-clients like xset, xterm, xmodmap etc?
[12:29] <ifireball> sun_: answer in question's body...
[12:29] <Pelo> ozubu, , system > admin > session
[12:29] <sethk> Curley_Sue, oh, yes.  there is a command to start fluxbox.  I'm not sure exactly what it is called.  there's, for example, a script startkde which is used to start kde.  there will be something similar for fluxbox.  You can edit that script, and add commands at the end.
[12:29] <cheesy> grep: error while loading shared libraries: libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[12:29] <cheesy> What can i do?
[12:29] <Pelo> sun_,  just search synaptic for those terms
[12:30] <aztun> bye and thx again
[12:30] <ozubu> Pelo, this will show everything starting like in dapper ?
[12:30] <sethk> Curley_Sue, or, rename the script.  I'll give you the kde example so I can use real names.  I might rename startkde to really-startkde, then create a script startkde; the first line of my new script is really-startkde, and then the rest of my new script is whatever you need to run after fluxbox exits.
[12:30] <qatsi> sethk: ok, i loaded dri after xinerama...ill see how it works....brb :)
[12:30] <sun_> whats the simplest image viewer, like xv?
[12:30] <sethk> qatsi, I think it will probably do the same thing, but it's easy to try, so why not.
[12:30] <Pelo> ozubu,  have a look , that is where you get the progs that load at startup,  but probably not the various essentials services
[12:30] <icesmurf> anyone familiar with the squid builds on edgy?
[12:31] <wastrel> sun_:  imagemagick is good   % display image.png
[12:31] <Pelo> ozubu,  appologies , system > preferences > session
[12:31] <ozubu> Pelo, I want to see them loading - this edgy is very much like WINXP i just see a brown bar of progress - I want to see what is loading and what isn't
[12:32] <scapor> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30560/ -> my dpkg is fucked up;  really fucked up I'm affraid of.   Anyone knows of a solution to this ?
[12:32] <ozubu> Pelo: I am sorry If I am not understood but this is very frustrating
[12:32] <Pelo> ozubu,  oh, you want a screen like in dapper ...,  sorry , don'T know
[12:32] <ozubu> Pelo, well thank
[12:33] <Pelo> ozubu,  maybe in splash screen
[12:33] <sethk> scapor, I don't understand the messages.  what is it saying about /var/lib/dpkg/available?
[12:33] <beavis> can someone tell me where is the idea pool for  Feisty Fawn?
[12:33] <ozubu> Pelo: thank's anyway. But doesn't it disturb you ? Splash screen is for gnome splash
[12:33] <charle97> ozubu, edit grub
[12:33] <markelhas> any one can help me out with system settings missing tools?
[12:33] <Curley_Sue> sethk: what do u think I need to run after killing the WM (in order to be back and the login screen)?
[12:33] <icesmurf> ozubu:  yes you can if you want, change the entries in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:33] <markelhas> in my system settings can't find power management
[12:33] <Pelo> ozubu,  I'm pretty much of a noob,  as long as it works I am happy
[12:33] <icesmurf> remove the "splash" keyword.
[12:33] <markelhas> but when a go to console mode i can us acpi to see info of my battery laptop info
[12:34] <icesmurf> eg: kernel      /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=UUID=49c5b2cd-14ad-4444-8381-9a4e9a1f56ee ro vga=771 quiet splash
[12:34] <ozubu> charle97: what is it I am supposed to write in grub ?
[12:34] <icesmurf> eg: kernel      /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=UUID=49c5b2cd-14ad-4444-8381-9a4e9a1f56ee ro vga=771 quiet
[12:34] <markelhas> but when a go to console mode i can us acpi to see info of my battery laptop info
[12:34] <sethk> Curley_Sue, do you mean that you choose fluxbox as the session, log in, log out, and don't get back to the login screen?
[12:34] <qatsi> sethk: no luck :(....im loading ALL the modules after xinerama, but i dont think it will work :(
[12:34] <markelhas> i'm using kubuntu
[12:34] <sethk> qatsi, probably not, but it was worth a try.
[12:34] <slew> i cant get the lexmark z611 to work using the howto found on the ubuntu wiki. anyone have a suggestion that works?
[12:34] <Pelo> markelhas,  try #kubuntu
[12:34] <ozubu> icesmurf: do you know what's the missing line in grub ?
[12:34] <Pelo> slew,  this is a printer ?
[12:35] <icesmurf> ozubu:  it's not a missing line, it's the "splash" keyword on the kernel lines.
[12:35] <charle97> ozubu, it's more like deleting
[12:35] <qatsi> sethk: brb
[12:35] <icesmurf> no, dont delete thoe whole line!
[12:35] <slew> Pelo, yes its a lexmark printer
[12:35] <fishsticks> !java
[12:35] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[12:35] <icesmurf> just remove the "splash" keyword.
[12:35] <markelhas> Pelo: didn't find nothing since yestarday
[12:35] <markelhas> :(
[12:35] <Cybers> !dc
[12:35] <Pelo> slew,  system > admin > printing ( or something similar) just install it same as you would in xp
[12:35] <ubotu> dc: The GNU dc arbitrary precision reverse-polish calculator. In component main, is optional. Version 1.06-19ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 56 kB, installed size 200 kB
[12:35] <ClayG> I need some help guys, I switched from GDM to XDM on my "server", I connect to it from old laptops to use it's power, sort of like a thinclient/server
[12:35] <ClayG> I need to know how i can fix the xdm settings from the CLI
[12:35] <slew> Pelo, that dosent work, i tried.
[12:36] <sethk> ClayG, /etc/X11/xdm has config files
[12:36] <ozubu> icesmurf: can you please direct me a little bit ?
[12:36] <ClayG> ok, sethk does that work if i removed xdm and am using gdm now?
[12:36] <sethk> ClayG, but gdm only handles incoming connections.  It has no effect at all on the performance of the laptops once they are connected.
[12:36] <ifireball> ClayG: no reason to use XDM for that GDM can do everthing XDM can and its easyer to configure
[12:36] <sethk> ClayG, some versions of gdm use xdm config files, but others don't.  I'm not sure which you have.
[12:36] <ozubu> icesmurf: I am trying to compare the edgy and dapper menu.lst (I have them both installed)
[12:37] <sethk> ClayG, my point is you gain nothing, performance wise, by replacing gdm with xdm
[12:37] <lk11mn> HELP!! i resized my ntfs partition with ntfsresize, deleted the parition, recreated it for the exact size of the new parition/marked the boot flag, and now i get unmountable boot volume trying to load windows... any advice anyone?
[12:37] <Pelo> markelhas,  the only power manager I see is in  system > prefs > power manager
[12:37] <icesmurf> ozubu:  open a terminal, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:37] <ClayG> I wanted GDM instead after the errors, i apt-get removed xdm
[12:37] <ClayG> then selected GDM
[12:37] <icesmurf> find the lines that start with "kernel"
[12:37] <sethk> lk11mn, pray
[12:37] <icesmurf> and remove the keyword "splash"
[12:37] <ozubu> icesmurf: what and where should I add ?
[12:38] <icesmurf> you dont add.. you remove.
[12:38] <sethk> ClayG, that may not have been a great idea, although I don't think it will remove xdm if gdm needs it.
[12:38] <icesmurf> have a look at the file
[12:38] <lk11mn> seth, i'm not the praying type!
[12:38] <sethk> ClayG, as long as you didn't use any force flags.
[12:38] <icesmurf> if you cant work it out, you should probably not be fiddling with it :-)
[12:38] <sethk> lk11mn, you have a backup of the ntfs partition, I hope
[12:38] <slew> so no one has a link to a page that explains how to install the lexmark printer and have it work?
[12:39] <lk11mn> not the praying, nor the backup type sethk
[12:39] <sethk> lk11mn, resizing partitions without a backup - you are much braver than I am.
[12:39] <sethk> lk11mn, I don't know enough about ntfs to help you very much.
[12:39] <Trunkz> Problem.. where can i find ndiswrapper-utils for breezy?
[12:39] <Trunkz> as in the pre-built package, not source
[12:39] <Trunkz> since the laptop doesnt have internet atm
[12:39] <lk11mn> k, thx anyway, i'll leave it 5 mins and spam again with the same question
[12:39] <Trunkz> Wud appreciate some help atm, since i kinda need to leave asap xD
[12:39] <ozubu> icesmurf: are you sure ?? I check both of their /boot/grub/menu.lst files they both have the parameter quiet spalsh.., I don't get it
[12:40] <adam_> do does the people who can fix it know about the USB Mass Storage Device problem? (USB drives aren
[12:40] <maxflax> what does noirq do as a option to the kernel? I mean. does it have some sideaffects?
[12:40] <Trunkz> anyone know? :O
[12:40] <lk11mn> well actually if i can get the right drivers for my raid controller, i'ma try and chkdsk /r from the recovery console in xp setup, that's worked alot for me in work sethk
[12:40] <adam_> t mounted and don show up)
[12:41] <icesmurf> ozubu:  scroll back and read what i wrote again, i'm not going to repeat myself over and over.
[12:41] <Pelo> slew have you check the lexmark site ?
[12:41] <icesmurf> actually 1 more time:
[12:41] <Tokenbad> ok I removed proftpd and then tried to reinstall and now get an error saying: IPv6 getaddrinfo 'You-desktop' error: Name or service not known....Anyone know this?
[12:41] <icesmurf> _remove_ the "splash" keyword.
[12:41] <Trunkz> Can anyone tell me where I can download the prebuilt (.deb) ndiswrapper-utils package for breezy?
[12:41] <sethk> lk11mn, good luck.  obviously you had the raid drivers installed before, so it's just a matter of telling the recovery console thing to load them, which shouldn't be too hard.
[12:41] <Trunkz> Appreciate it =/
[12:41] <Pelo> icesmurf,  explain to him how to "remove" the splash keyword
[12:41] <slew> Pelo, yes, they offer support for redhat
[12:42] <ey> hello can i watch tv on my linux .with no monitor
[12:42] <ey> and stuff?
[12:42] <Pelo> slew,  any linux  driver on there ?
[12:42] <sethk> ey, plug a usb cable into your eyeball, I guess
[12:42] <lk11mn> lol sethk, it could turn out to be a bit of a bitch concidering the driver download is an exe and i dont have nowhere to exe an exe
[12:42] <adam_> when will they fix the USB mass storage device problem?! Do they even know about it?
[12:42] <black_13> what tools do i need to have install for wireless networking
[12:42] <shwag> how do I configure an interface to start at boot from the command line.
[12:42] <sethk> slew, it's probably an rpm, but you can extract the files from an rpm
[12:43] <ey> can i hack a tv channels ?.or is this not the place to talk about:S
[12:43] <Trunkz> icesmurf: Kinda need ndiswrapper-utils for breezy (.deb package)
[12:43] <Trunkz> Any chance of u knowing where I can download it? >_<
[12:43] <charle97> icesmurf, hope he doesn't screw up .... he may not be able to boot into ubuntu
[12:43] <sethk> lk11mn, oh, you mean it's a self-extractor?
[12:43] <sethk> lk11mn, might be able to run it under wine
[12:44] <slew> sethk, im using the HOWTO at the ubuntu wiki but the drivers that are installed dont work
[12:44] <cwillu> after restoring my laptop from hibernation, I can't use the mouse or keyboard in my x session.  I can still switch vterms, and I can launch stuff from there onto the x session (DISPLAY=:0.0 xterm& shows up), and if I run xkill, it says "unable to grab cursor".  Can anybody help?
[12:44] <sethk> slew, what happens?  be more specific about "don't work"
[12:44] <Wikipedia-Gast73> why
[12:44] <lk11mn> sethk, im on a live desktop at the moment, i havent even got ubuntu installed yet, i suppose i could go with wine,
[12:44] <Wikipedia-Gast73> why
[12:44] <lk11mn> HELP!! i resized my ntfs partition with ntfsresize, deleted the parition, recreated it for the exact size of the new parition/marked the boot flag, and now i get unmountable boot volume trying to load windows... any advice anyone?
[12:44] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> well well well
[12:44] <sethk> lk11mn, borrow somebody's laptop with windows   :)
[12:44] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> I still can't get my wireless network to work
[12:45] <Curley_Sue> sethk: found what i needed (for FB logout script) kill -TERM $(xprop -root _BLACKBOX_PID | awk '{print $3}'
[12:45] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> I've just upgraded to edgy
[12:45] <Curley_Sue> sethk: thanx a lot!
[12:45] <Wikipedia-Gast73> why
[12:45] <Pelo> !wireless
[12:45] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[12:45] <sethk> Curley_Sue, there's a much easier way to do that
[12:45] <Wikipedia-Gast73> why
[12:45] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Pelo: I know that.
[12:45] <sethk> Curley_Sue, do    man killall       you can kill the process by name
[12:45] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Pelo: It's not showing any networks
[12:45] <Wikipedia-Gast73> why
[12:45] <slew> sethk, literally nothing is printed.
[12:45] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Pelo: and I think it's reading my wireless card as a "unknown device"
[12:45] <Wikipedia-Gast73> why
[12:46] <Pelo> LGKeiz-Ubuntu,  sorry , best I can do
[12:46] <cwillu> Wikipedia-Gast73: are you asking a question?
[12:46] <Crankymonky> Anyone know the difference between the normal install and "OEM Install" on the alternate CD?
[12:46] <ey> can i hack a tv channels ?.or is this not the place to talk about:S
[12:46] <sethk> slew, no errors?   does lpq say "ready" or some such thing?   what does the cups server say if you point a browser at it?
[12:46] <Wikipedia-Gast73> why
[12:46] <cwillu> ey:  not the place
[12:46] <Pelo> LGKeiz-Ubuntu,  try searching the forum for your router and such
[12:46] <MrFatJack> I just upgraded to 6.10 from 6.06 and now seem to have no window-manager running. X works but I have no ability to switch between apps, close/max/min app controls are missing and I have one desktop. I was previously configured to run xgl. Any thoughts on how to fix this?
[12:46] <georgy> ! oem
[12:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseNotes/UbiquityKnownIssues
[12:46] <easytiger>  how does bash do that inteligent thing of displaying only the relevant input options when you run tar, java etc?
[12:46] <Wikipedia-Gast73> cwillu sucks
[12:46] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> C
[12:46] <Crankymonky> georgy, thanks
[12:46] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Pelo: lol..
[12:46] <ubuntu> can someone help me
[12:46] <slew> sethk, no errors, cups says its ready but wont print a test page.
[12:46] <cwillu> !ask
[12:46] <sethk> easytiger, there are configuration files for it.  by the way, zsh does it much better.  :)
[12:46] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[12:46] <sethk> slew, is it a usb printer?
[12:47] <ozubu> icesmurf: I did delete the word splash just for the sake of trying - But: both dapper and edgy have that word in the line that starts with kernel so it's probably not what I mean. Here is the line from dapper: kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-27-386 root=/dev/hda5 ro quiet splash  and here is the line from edgy: kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-386 root=UUID=d9dcab9c-278c-4c8e-8886-c0d95df8a210 ro quiet splash
 cool.. i might check it out
[12:47] <Wikipedia-Gast73> ubotu sucks
[12:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sucks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:47] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Its a linksys router.
[12:47] <catalytic> how can I completely remove firefox
[12:47] <piedoggie> need suggestions for mixed env calendar program.  me windows xp laptop, she linux (breezy) desktop.  we both need calender access independent of network conectivity.   ideas?
[12:47] <ubuntu> I have some video files but I can't play them anymore because of the license
[12:47] <catalytic> and reinstall it?
[12:47] <cwillu> after restoring my laptop from hibernation, I can't use the mouse or keyboard in my x session.  I can still switch vterms, and I can launch stuff from there onto the x session (DISPLAY=:0.0 xterm& shows up), and if I run xkill, it says "unable to grab cursor".  I think something related to the hibernation still has a grab on the root window.  How do I go about checking this?
[12:47] <baxter_kylie> Hi. Curious--has anyone gotten mythweb to work under edgy? If so, could you possibly share how?
[12:47] <sethk> easytiger, the zsh man pages explain how it works
[12:47] <Pelo> someone kick  Wikipedia-Gast73
[12:47] <slew> sethk, yes
[12:47] <Wikipedia-Gast73> ubotu sucks
[12:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sucks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
 thanks ;)
[12:47] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> can anyone help me with getting my wireless network list, and when I try to do it manually I can't connect.
[12:48] <Wikipedia-Gast73> poor ubotu
[12:48] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> oh sweet
[12:48] <baxter_kylie> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: You mean 'iwlist <interface> scanning' doesn't work?
[12:48] <Wikipedia-Gast73> why
[12:48] <ubuntu> ubotu is real nice but with wich program can I watch streaming video?
[12:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about is real nice but with wich program can I watch streaming video? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:48] <Wikipedia-Gast73> why
[12:49] <ey> http://hacks.oreilly.com/pub/h/4461  i dont need ,monitor i can just watch it from internat :;)
[12:49] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> sure
[12:49] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> err
[12:49] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> sec
[12:49] <IFK_> i have a (hopefully) easy question.. how can i check the size and other information of my drive partitions?
[12:49] <georgy> ubuntu : try xine
[12:49] <MrFatJack> I just upgraded to 6.10 from 6.06 and now seem to have no window-manager running. X works but I have no ability to switch between apps, close/max/min app controls are missing and I have one desktop. I was previously configured to run xgl. Any thoughts on how to fix this?
[12:49] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Edgy detects my network card now, except still no networks
[12:49] <tarelerul1> any of you have you usb mouse not work and then gnome not start up. I can get the mouse to work with I unplug it and plug it back in
[12:49] <mcphail> IFK_: df -h
[12:49] <Pelo> IFK_,  you'll get some info in the system monitor
[12:49] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> eth1      No scan results
[12:50] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Thats what I get
[12:50] <baxter_kylie> ubuntu: Vlc is even more advanced for streaming.
[12:50] <cwillu> MrFatJack: try running metacity
[12:50] <ubuntu> ok
[12:50] <ubuntu> vlc
[12:50] <ubuntu> tnx
[12:50] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> baxter_kylie: lgkeiz@lgkeiz-laptop:~$ iwlist eth1 scan
[12:50] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> eth1      No scan results
[12:50] <IFK_> i recommend VLC if you want a second opinion :)
[12:50] <foomanchew> I just resized my desktop and it messed up all the icons and there positions on the top panel, how can I reset it
[12:50] <slew> sethk, i found the problem. the wiki assumes the driver will show up in the driver list. it dosent, you need to click browse and find the driver in /usr/share/cups/model
[12:50] <MrFatJack> i'll try
[12:50] <baxter_kylie> LGKeiz: iwconfig
[12:50] <ubuntu> take care ,byeee
[12:51] <Pelo> foolswisdom,   rightclick the icon  move
[12:51] <JohnM555> Hello, I just installed my wireless drivers with the ndiswrapper(I hope I did anyway :P) but I am not sure how to setup my wireless to work with wep encryption. The site I was looking at says to refer back to the Basic Connection guidelines, but those don't help me. I was wondering if somebody could help me setup my wireless connection, or point me to a good reference.
[12:51] <georgy> vlc is ok, i have to confirm
[12:51] <baxter_kylie> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: Does it list anything?
[12:51] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"
[12:51] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid
[12:51] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[12:51] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[12:51] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[12:51] <foomanchew> I just resized my desktop and it messed up all the icons and there positions on the top panel, how can I reset it ???????
[12:51] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[12:51] <ey> hello help :S i cant start my xawtv wont open :S i click on it and it wont start?
[12:51] <gyaresu> anyone had a Pentium4 present as 2 separate processors in /proc/cpu
[12:51] <ey> someone have a clue .and yeah i got it from ubuntu packages
[12:51] <IFK_> thanks, df is exactly what i was looking for
[12:51] <foomanchew> gyaresu, hyperthreaded
[12:51] <gyaresu> foomanchew, Is that a question or an answer?
[12:52] <foomanchew> gyaresu, not sure ? both ?
[12:52] <cwillu> my laptop keyboard/mouse stopped working, but x is still working; help!
[12:52] <foomanchew> gyaresu, user ayg
[12:52] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> baxter_kylie: what I posted above
[12:52] <gyaresu> foomanchew, It's certainly an idea. But I don't think it should be showing up as a separate proc.
[12:53] <baxter_kylie> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: Okay, I'm willing to help but please avoid spamming the chan. Thanks. :) Now, do you know what driver you're using? 'lsmod' look for modules under 'wlan' and let me know what they are.
[12:53] <gyaresu> foomanchew, "user ayg" What do you mean?
[12:53] <scapor> seth: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30568/ shows a translation of it
[12:53] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> I can't find wlan
[12:53] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> lol
[12:53] <bluescreen> good evening, well i have a problem with the boot time of my laptop. when i analysed it with bootchart it came out that the init takes over 55 seconds
[12:53] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> sec
[12:53] <shwag> Why does php5-gd attempt to install laptop-detect and x11-common  as dependencies ?
[12:53] <bluescreen> can this be ?
[12:53] <foomanchew> gyaresu, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[12:54] <scapor> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30568/ -> my dpkg is fucked up;  really fucked up I'm affraid of.   Anyone knows of a solution to this ? (repost of the question with some more information in the log)
[12:54] <georgy> LGKeiz-Ubuntu : watch this how-to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Edgy?highlight=%28WifiDocs%2FDriver%29
[12:54] <gyaresu> foomanchew, Yes. That is the problem. Proc 0 & Proc 1 for what is a basic P4.
[12:54] <baxter_kylie> georgy: Good call. I was looking for that myself.
[12:55] <ryanpg> any way to change qt themes without installing KDE?
[12:55] <sethk> scapor, try editing that file and removing the offending line.   back up the file first, of course.
[12:55] <sethk> ryanpg, yes, there is a place in the kde control center to do it.
[12:55] <scapor> seth I did, then it showed another parsing error .. is it save to remove the occurences of whole packages ?
[12:55] <scapor> seth: more and more as long as the problem persists ?
[12:55] <wiz> how can I enable xinerama stuff (like seperate backgrounds on displays, set window locations on displays and whatnot) on gnome on an nvidia twinview setup?
[12:55] <Pelo> ryanakca,   isntall the gnome art manager and see if you can'T find something you like in that
[12:55] <sethk> scapor, no, don't do that.
[12:55] <ryanpg> sethk, err... I don't want to install KDE though
[12:56] <baxter_kylie> Anyone with a MythWeb success story want to help me get it working?
[12:56] <sethk> scapor, is there anything obviously wrong with the line?  does it make sense?
[12:56] <ryanakca> Pelo: hmm?
[12:56] <bluescreen> this is my boot chart but i think somethink is not right with the initram
[12:56] <bluescreen> http://img471.imageshack.us/my.php?image=edgy200611081qi2.png
[12:56] <sethk> ryanpg, sorry, I assumed you already had.  You can install themes, yes.  I haven't done it without kde in ages.    check QT's web site, it's quite good
[12:56] <baxter_kylie> !xinerama
[12:56] <ubotu> xinerama is using multiple monitors as one big monitor. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo
[12:56] <ryanpg> I think qt3-config is what I want
[12:56] <scapor> sethk: I'll paste it .. one minute;
[12:56] <sethk> ryanpg, sounds reasonable, yes.
[12:56] <qubix__> where can i find/download  X Window System libraries and headers
[12:56] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> baxter_kylie I don't have my driver cd
[12:56] <Pelo> ryanakca,  blame nick complete
[12:56] <qubix__> which package?
[12:57] <scapor> sethk: it reads "Package: libgnome2-vfs-peribncurses5 (>= 5.4-5)"
[12:57] <ryanakca> Pelo: lol
[12:57] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> nvm Im dumb lol sec
[12:57] <sethk> qubix__, in synaptic, search for packages with both X and -dev
[12:57] <Pelo> ryanpg,   try installing  the gnome art manager and see if you can'T find something you like in there
[12:57] <scapor> sethk: isn't that an unusual name ? seems like 2 package names contracted ...
[12:57] <qubix__> sethk - just search for "X?
[12:57] <ryanpg> Pelo, gnome art manager?
[12:57] <sethk> scapor, yes, I agree
[12:57] <qubix__> or "xlib"?
[12:57] <foomanchew> anyone have rhythmbox fail after upgrading to edgy ? with rhythmbox: error while loading shared libraries: libnautilus-burn.so.3: ??
[12:57] <ey> what command do i use to upgarde my programs?
[12:57] <sethk> scapor, one part of it is libncurses, most likely
[12:57] <scapor> libncurses and gnomevfs
[12:57] <cwillu> what program is responsible for locking the screen after a suspend or hibernate?
[12:57] <Pelo> ryanpg,  , instead on qt themes
[12:58] <foomanchew> freekin faucet
[12:58] <ey> i tryied "upgrade xawtv"
[12:58] <ey> but does not work
[12:58] <gyaresu> wiz I have dual CRT's. Here's my xorg.conf http://gyaresu.org/xorg.conf
[12:58] <sethk> qubix__, you might try both.  if you search for:     x  -dev      (with a space between them) you'll get all packages with both x and -dev
[12:58] <sethk> qubix__, obviously, xlib will find fewer packages, but might not find them all
[12:58] <gyaresu> wiz, you will need to specify your own res etc.
[12:58] <baxter_kylie> LGKeiz-Ubuntu. You might be out of luck if there isn't a linux equivalent. Wireless is one of the places I don't mess around with on hardware -- I always stick with atheros based cards.
[12:58] <foomanchew> anyone ? rythmbox issues ?
[12:58] <sethk> qubix__, try xlib space -dev first, if installing those doesn't get it, you can try X -dev
[12:58] <ey> what command is it agein to upgrade
[12:59] <baxter_kylie> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: However, your card manufacturer should have drivers available on their website.
[12:59] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> baxter_kylie:  can I pm you?
[12:59] <gyaresu> ey, 'sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade'
[12:59] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> If you don't mind
[12:59] <sethk> scapor, let me search for packages that start with libgnome2-vfs
[12:59] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> so I can tell the cards I have and which one I should get the driver for
[01:00] <scapor> sethk: -perl that is ? no ?
[01:00] <baxter_kylie> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: Feel free. I'm here to help whilst waiting to be helped. :)
[01:00] <sethk> scapor, could be, let me check
[01:00] <wiz> gyaresu, I have twinview setup, I want to setup xinerama extension support... assuming gnome has those features like kde does?
[01:00] <scapor> sethk: libgnome2-vfs-perl exists
[01:00] <sethk> scapor, yes, I see it also
[01:00] <MrFatJack> cwillu: Thanks - metacity got me operational.
[01:00] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> baxter_kylie:  there lol
[01:00] <Curley_Sue> sethk: thanx for all the help. night!
[01:00] <sethk> scapor, I have the latest version as 1.022-1
[01:00] <cwillu> MrFatJack: np
[01:00] <cwillu> MrFatJack: wanna help me now?  :)
[01:00] <sethk> scapor, but I'm not on the most recent release, so that could be old.
[01:00] <gyaresu> wiz, should be compiled into all the progs already.
[01:01] <scapor> sethk: feisty that is ?
[01:01] <sethk> scapor, doesn't matter though, if it is, apt-get update will bring it up to date
[01:01] <clash> .
[01:01] <scapor> nvm
[01:01] <sethk> scapor, not quite that old  :)
[01:01] <scapor> apt-get doesn't work here anyway
[01:01] <sethk> scapor, it will once you fix this problem
[01:01] <scapor> sethk: yeah, I figured that out
[01:01] <sethk> scapor, apt-get and dpkg are the part of the same system
[01:02] <sethk> scapor, so if you get rid of the syntax error, apt-get update should work for you.  assuming, of course, that there aren't other problems in the file.
[01:02] <wiz> gyaresu, where do I find the options? Like having a seperate background image on seperate displays, and making windows only open on head 1?
[01:02] <scapor> sethk: I know, I'm used to debian for 5 years or more, I switched to ubuntu like 2 years ago when it came  up ;)
[01:02] <gyaresu> wiz, Are you getting windows open across both screens?
[01:02] <scapor> sethk: I didn't know of this file yet though .. never had this kind of problem... I tried deleting it with a backup stored so maybe the db would be recreated again
[01:03] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> baxter_kylie: receive my pm?
[01:03] <scapor> sethk: though, no luck :)
[01:03] <emo_> how shall I find all the cookies in my system and how can I get rid of them ?
[01:03] <baxter_kylie> LGKeiz-Ubuntu. Yes. I'm replying in it.
[01:03] <emo_> how shall I find all the cookies in my system and how can I get rid of them ?
[01:03] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> k
[01:03] <wiz> gyaresu, no... but they open on head 2 a lot when there's other stuff open on 1, and that bothers me
[01:03] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> I don't see your pm
[01:03] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> You need to register to send pms baxter
[01:03] <wiz> gyaresu, and I'd like the desktop background option
[01:03] <thor> emo_ just tell firefox to delete all the cookies on closing
[01:04] <scapor> sethk: I'm missing the gnome-vfs2-perl package information in that file right now.  Should it be there ? should all packages on the host be listed there ?
[01:04] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> baxter_kylie: you need to register to pm on freenode
[01:04] <Trunkz> Gah
[01:04] <Trunkz> got a problem
[01:04] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> baxter_kylie: /msg nickserv register <password>
[01:04] <Trunkz> ndiswrapper
[01:04] <killown> how I swtich gnome to kde in ubuntu?
[01:04] <baxter_kylie> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: I'm fairly certain I'm registered. You have to be registered to even get on this chan.
[01:04] <emo_> thor: I mean through the terminal
[01:04] <Trunkz> Can someone just send me the prepackaged .deb for breezy?
[01:04] <Trunkz> Please? =/
[01:04] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> baxter_kylie I'm not receiving your pm =/
[01:05] <georgy> killown, : login screen session kde
[01:05] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> baxter_kylie just tell me which one. 1 or 2
[01:05] <gyaresu> wiz, Desktop I can only tell you from kde or fluxbox (i don't use gnome). But the windows to specific windows can be done with prefacing the prog from the command line with an X command. I just can't remember what it is :(
[01:05] <killown> georgy, what?
[01:05] <killown> ahhh
[01:05] <killown> ok
[01:05] <baxter_kylie> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: Number 2. But you should go to dell to get the driver.
[01:05] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> lol  Im getting as we speak
[01:05] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> baxtor_kylie: I hope I can get it working >.<;
[01:06] <dusk> is there a better calc than gnucalc?
[01:06] <sethk> scapor, yes, if it's installed, it should be in the file
[01:06] <baxter_kylie> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: I tend to not play around with wireless. I honestly recommend you scrap the card and get an atheros based one. MadWifi is maddeningly cool.
[01:06] <gyaresu> dusk python
[01:06] <ZirJoker> why vlc player hides itself sometimes? i cant bring it up again
[01:06] <wiz> gyaresu, so I take it the xinerama support in gnome is less than desireable?
[01:06] <sethk> scapor, you can probably fix it up by doing an install of it.  It will install over itself, not knowing that it's already there.  You may need a force flag to tell it to overwrite the files that are already there
[01:06] <sethk> scapor, better if you can find someone else with a line for that package in their file, and put it into yours'
[01:06] <dusk> gyaresu: gui calc :)
[01:07] <scapor> sethk: I did that, it wanted to uinstall after removeing the sectionb
[01:07] <thor> emo_: they are in the ~/.mozilla/firefox/????.default folder...but you will need to see what ???.default really is
[01:07] <scapor> sethk: but now another parsing error appeared
[01:07] <tim167> how do I import adress book from thunderbird-XP to new thunderbird-ubuntu ?
[01:07] <thor> emo_ it is different for each user
[01:07] <sethk> scapor, I was afraid of that
[01:07] <bluescreen> has anyone an idea what i can do to speed up the init ????
[01:07] <gyaresu> wiz, I just don't know how to do it with the clicky buttons. Once  window is on a desktop (I use 5 virtual ones), It will open there next time (in my experience)
[01:07] <sethk> scapor, it's hard to mess up a file that way and only end up with one messed up line.
[01:07] <sethk> scapor, you might try running fsck on your file system.
[01:07] <Trunkz> gah
[01:07] <Trunkz> its being gay
[01:07] <Trunkz> someone help me x_x
[01:07] <sethk> scapor, if it's the root file system, you'll have to boot the live cd
[01:08] <ZirJoker> !vlc
[01:08] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[01:08] <jadacyrus> Can someone help me get my logitech quickcam working?..its listed under lsusb, but camorama and other programs dont recognize it
[01:08] <Tokenbad> ok I removed proftpd and then tried to reinstall and now get an error saying: IPv6 getaddrinfo 'You-desktop' error: Name or service not known....Anyone know this?
[01:08] <sethk> jadacyrus, probably you need to load a kernel module
[01:08] <wiz> Is xfce less resource intensive than gnome?
[01:08] <sethk> jadacyrus, lsusb will see it at the vendor id/device id level, without kernel support, but the programs won't see it without kernel support
[01:09] <tim167> how can i import message filter settings i had on thunderbird-XP to thunderbird-ubuntu ? (also want to import address book, and mail archive)
[01:09] <sethk> wiz, by reputation, yes.  I haven't actually measured it myself and I'm always a skeptic
[01:09] <scapor> sethk: can't the root file system be checked from the maintenace shell you get with the debug-mode boot ?
[01:09] <emo_> thor: any strange stuff my pc behaving strange like sometimes the icone from my internet conection keep lighting without I'm being browsing ...
[01:09] <sethk> tim167, you should be able to use the export to a file in windows, and then import from a file in ubuntu
[01:09] <wiz> sethk, what about gnome - kde, which is less?
[01:09] <sethk> scapor, possibly.  if it is set up to run entirely from a ram disk.
[01:10] <thor> emo_: sometimes it will...it needs to communicate with the dhcp server and other places.
[01:10] <sethk> scapor, try it.  if it can run without mounting the root file system, then the answer is yes.
[01:10] <tim167> sethk: I used 'mozbackup' on windows to save everything to .pcv file
[01:10] <jadacyrus> sethk: do you know what kernel module i need to load?
[01:10] <thor> emo_: to know if it is a problem you really need to capture the packets with wireshark or some such tool and see what is being sent/received
[01:11] <bluescreen> hello can someone help me with my init problem ?
[01:11] <gyaresu> jadacyrus, what's the output of the lsusb line
[01:11] <JohnM555> Hello, I just installed my wireless drivers with the ndiswrapper(I hope I did anyway :P) but I am not sure how to setup my wireless to work with wep encryption. The site I was looking at says to refer back to the Basic Connection guidelines, but those don't help me. I was wondering if somebody could help me setup my wireless connection, or point me to a good reference.
[01:11] <sethk> tim167, sorry, I'm not familiar with that format.  you can try to import it, if it can't do it, it will yell at you.
[01:11] <gyaresu> !helpme > bluescreen
[01:11] <thor> bluescreen: there are a lot of tweaks to improve speed in various parts of the system, but no magic bullet for init
[01:11] <jadacyrus> gyaresu: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:08d7 Logitech, Inc.
[01:11] <emo_> thor: I don't know how to analyse the packets that's the point...:(
[01:12] <bluescreen> i have this boot chart here http://img471.imageshack.us/my.php?image=edgy200611081qi2.png
[01:12] <gyaresu> !wireless > Johan666
[01:12] <tim167> i'm afraid it wont work, mozbackup is windows only...:-/
[01:12] <bluescreen> this cant be normal or?
[01:12] <gyaresu> Johan666, sorry. not for you.
[01:12] <gyaresu> !wireless > JohnM555
[01:12] <sethk> bluescreen, very likely there is a lot of stuff starting that you don't need.  You may also be seeing a timeout trying to get network configuration.
[01:12] <emo_> thor: like sometimes my browser shut down by itself...that's not normal...
[01:12] <JohnM555> What does that mean gyaresu?
[01:12] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> baxter_kylie: it's a exe how would I get the sys file?
[01:12] <scapor> sethk: after removing 5 or so package instances from the file apt seems to work again .. I'll try installing the problematic packages to see waht it does.  Thanks :)
[01:12] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> baxter_kylie: what is the command to cab extract
[01:13] <qubix__> how do i leave a proccess running in background? im trying to use  fbdesk -rc ~/.fluxbox/init & but once i close the terminal the GUI app dies!
[01:13] <sethk> scapor, good luck
[01:13] <gyaresu> JohnM555, Have you read the page?
[01:13] <thor> emo_: No, that isn't normal. But I doubt that is a cookie issue.
[01:13] <JohnM555> I have read lots of pages :\
[01:13] <ReWT_AxS> howdo i upgrade from dapper to edgy
[01:13] <ReWT_AxS> ?
[01:13] <JohnM555> Its all starting to confuse me though
[01:13] <sethk> bluescreen, that drawing is so dense, it is too small to read on my 23" screen
[01:13] <apokryphos> ReWT_AxS: /topic
[01:13] <bluescreen> click on it ^^
[01:13] <thor> emo_: do you get an error code when your browser shuts down?
[01:13] <JohnM555> I've been reading pages about thsi all day...
[01:13] <JohnM555> this*
[01:13] <bluescreen> it shows that the init process takes 55 seconds
[01:13] <gyaresu> JohnM555, have you read the man to iwconfig?
[01:13] <baxter_kylie> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: I /think/ cab files are actually .zips... try renaming then unzipping.
[01:14] <bluescreen> on my desktop pc its 3 seconds
[01:14] <jadacyrus> gyaresu: Bus 002 Device 002: ID 046d:08d7 Logitech, Inc.
[01:14] <bluescreen> how can this be ?
[01:14] <JohnM555> Um, there was one page that talked about that briefly
[01:14] <JohnM555> It didn't say much about it
[01:14] <emo_> thor: no that's right I think that isn't my machine...
[01:14] <gyaresu> JohnM555, It is to wireless what ifconfig it to ethernet.
[01:15] <Alex> G'day. I appear to only be able to mute my soundcard, rather than turn it down? It's an SiS...something.. :) Is this a common problem, anyone?
[01:15] <JohnM555> I do know that much :)
[01:15] <gyaresu> JohnM555, You'll get a lot out of reading the iwconfig man page.
[01:15] <testing> hi please
[01:15] <testing> i need help
[01:15] <emo_> thor: can you give some tips how to analyse the packages...like a book tutorial or whatever...
[01:15] <JohnM555> I'll look for it
[01:15] <testing> this is pulling my hair I swear
[01:15] <gyaresu> Johan666, (and preface peoples name when you talk to them or they won't see you)
[01:15] <thor> emo_: you might try this...instead of clicking on the firefox icon to run the program open a terminal and type 'firefox'. Then, when firefox crashes there should be some information in the terminal window about what happened.
[01:15] <tim167> the plain thunderbird files are also still on my old harddrive, how can I import those ?
[01:15] <testing> Ubuntu LiveCD has a madd flickering screen
[01:15] <JohnM555> gyaresu: sorry.
[01:15] <gyaresu> !helpme > testing
[01:16] <gyaresu> JohnM555, Not at all. :)
[01:16] <qubix__> how do i leave a proccess running in background? im trying to use  fbdesk -rc ~/.fluxbox/init & but once i close the terminal the GUI app dies!
[01:16] <thor> emo_: I don't know of one, but there is plenty of information on the web about it. Start at the wireshark homepage
[01:16] <gyaresu> qubix__, man bg
[01:16] <testing> anyone with a sis driver?
[01:16] <qubix__> bg has no man
[01:16] <qubix__> :P
[01:16] <gyaresu> qubix__, effectively "ctrl+z" then 'bg'
[01:16] <jadacyrus> Can someone help me get my logitech quickcam working?..its listed under lsusb, but camorama and other programs dont recognize it
[01:16] <ReWT_AxS> err cant i just change repos then do apt-update apt-upgrade then dist-upgrade?
[01:16] <thor> emo_: http://www.wireshark.org/
[01:16] <testing> fd
[01:16] <ReWT_AxS> like the old ubuntus
[01:16] <sethk> jadacyrus, I already answered that question
[01:17] <aios> since i installed ubuntu my laptop fan's been on non-stop .. how can i fix that?
[01:17] <killown> when to be released kde 4?
[01:17] <gyaresu> qubix__, or put it in your ./fluxbox/startup (or start or whatever)
[01:17] <cwillu> after restoring my laptop from hibernation, I can't use the mouse or keyboard in my x session.  I can still switch vterms, and I can launch stuff from there onto the x session (DISPLAY=:0.0 xterm& shows up), and if I run xkill, it says "unable to grab cursor".  I think something related to the hibernation still has a grab on the root window.   As it turns out, gnome-screensaver was locking it;  killing it didn't bring it back, but la
[01:17] <ReWT_AxS> aios do you have acpi enabled?
[01:17] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> baxter_kylie pm
[01:17] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> baxter_kylie: what did I do wrong
[01:17] <rBlong2u1> jo
[01:17] <jadacyrus> sethk: you just said i need to load some kernel module..probably..thankyou for your input really..However im not sure what that kernel module is, so im asking to anyoen else who might give me some help
[01:17] <aios> ReWT_AxS: i don't know what it is, so probably not. i'm new to ubutu .. linux actually. i'll read up on acpi then
[01:17] <xbruceyx> Quickie: linux-generic is the new kernel that replaces linux-386 (686,k7, etc.) for Edgy Eft, correct?
[01:18] <gyaresu> jadacyrus, http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=3503
[01:18] <emo_> thor: right I gonna have a look...cheers
[01:18] <rBlong2u1> now
[01:18] <qubix__> gyaresu,  it still dies
[01:18] <qubix__> :(
[01:18] <ReWT_AxS> ok...bc if you dont have acpi enabled your fans don't really know how to react
[01:18] <sethk> jadacyrus, if what you need to do is load a kernel module, you can ask all day, but nothing will happen until you figure out how to load a kernel module
[01:18] <aios> ReWT_AxS: anything else i should be learning about, reletaive to the fan?
[01:18] <ReWT_AxS> err nope that's only thing i can think of?
[01:18] <jadacyrus> sethk: i know how to load a kernel module,..i just dont know which one..thankyou
[01:18] <bluescreen> hmm that bot wont help ^^; ithink my problem is more specific on the init process
[01:18] <P3L|C4N0> greetings
[01:18] <aios> ReWT_AxS: thanks
[01:18] <baxter_kylie> LGKeiz-Ubuntu. Ouch. I don't think I know quite what to do with that. Maybe someone a bit more experienced with ndiswrapper can help you.
[01:18] <ReWT_AxS> apokryphos,  err cant i just change repos then do apt-update apt-upgrade then dist-upgrade?
[01:18] <ReWT_AxS> no problem aios
[01:19] <jadacyrus> sethk: your not the end all to my search for help pal
[01:19] <sethk> jadacyrus, your time to waste.
[01:19] <ey> hello what command do i use .to open xawtv on konsole
[01:19] <Tokenbad> ok I removed proftpd and then tried to reinstall and now get an error saying: IPv6 getaddrinfo 'You-desktop' error: Name or service not known....Anyone know what it means about ipv6?
[01:19] <kmull> My Edgy upgrade went awry... now X won't load. All I need to do is save some desktop folders onto a USB drive then reinstall. Can someone walk a newbie through this?
[01:19] <jadacyrus> sethk: im not wasting time if im still trying to find out which module to load am I?
[01:19] <ey> hello what command do i use .to open xawtv on konsole .so i can see the error report
[01:19] <rBlong2u1> hey I  am into a huge problem I can't solve, I have puppyOS installed right now on this computer and the screen is not Flickering. When I use Ubuntu LiveCD the screen flickers
[01:20] <jadacyrus> sethk: its people like you who turn away new users to linux..stop acting self-righteous
[01:20] <gyaresu> jadacyrus, do you have the spca5xx module loaded?
[01:20] <rBlong2u1> I wonder whether it's possible to use puppyOS xorg.config with Ubuntu
[01:20] <jadacyrus> gyaresu: ill check right now
[01:20] <thor> kmull: will the computer boot to a command prompt?
[01:20] <jadacyrus> gyaresu: negative
[01:20] <gyaresu> jadacyrus, 'modprobe -l |grep spca5xx
[01:20] <kmull> thor: yes, i was able to mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/tmp to copy over some files, but then i couldn't get it to work again
[01:20] <AsheD> how do I make Evolution continue running in the background, with a tray icon instead of a full window?
[01:21] <ClayG> anyone here use a mac?
[01:21] <kmull> i've tried using startx, but something broke when i did my upgrade
[01:21] <sethk> jadacyrus, well, my humblest apologies for trying to help you.
[01:21] <sethk> ClayG, occasionally, why?
[01:21] <ReWT_AxS> ah i see
[01:21] <ClayG> well, need a notebook, and wanty something solid
[01:21] <thor> kmull: couldn't get what to work again? the mount? the copy?
[01:21] <ReWT_AxS> why is it not reccommended to do it that way?
[01:21] <jadacyrus> modprobe -l | grep spca5xx
[01:21] <jadacyrus> /lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/spca5xx/spca5xx.ko
[01:21] <ey> hello what command do i use .to open vlc "video land"  on konsole .so i can see the error report
[01:21] <sethk> ClayG, lots and lots and lots of hardware problems with mac notebooks
[01:21] <ClayG> thinking of a macbook pro, i just bought and returned a HP DV6000t, loved it but support sucked
[01:21] <kmull> @thor: sudo mount. sudo wasn't accepting my password
[01:21] <gyaresu> jadacyrus, load it baby.
[01:21] <ClayG> really?
[01:21] <ClayG> hmmm
[01:21] <gyaresu> jadacyrus, then check dmesg
[01:21] <ReWT_AxS> hey how do i change what is said in terminal?
[01:21] <jadacyrus> gyaresu: sudo modprobe spca5xx ?
[01:21] <kmull> @thor: and to be honest, having to go through and manually copy over files (thumbdrive not big enough) was starting to suck
[01:22] <gyaresu> jadacyrus, boom!
[01:22] <ClayG> what is a solid notebook, with good support
[01:22] <rBlong2u1> anyone with me?
[01:22] <ClayG> and a good return policy?
[01:22] <sisqonrwwwwwwww> hi. ein want to add a app. and the add/remove app window opens. after aply and ok he do something but nothing happens. he doesnt install. can some help me?
[01:22] <jadacyrus> gyaresu:  drivers/media/video/spca5xx/spca5xx-main.c: spca5xx driver 00.57.08 registered
[01:22] <ReWT_AxS> like "username@"change this"
[01:22] <jadacyrus> okay..camstream still not detecting it
[01:22] <kmull> @thor: ideally, i could fix X and not have to worry about it, but I really need to get these desktop folders off, then I can just reinstall if i have to
[01:22] <LordMetroid> http://ia300105.us.archive.org/3/items/Michael_Badnarik/ <-- Damn, he really is educative! I wish was soverign though with USA turning into shit I will never have any hopes for that!
[01:22] <sethk> ClayG, I've had good results with the IBMs, but their prices are a bit higher.
[01:22] <gyaresu> jadacyrus, should have a /dev/video or somesuch now...
[01:22] <ReWT_AxS> How do I change text after the "@" I guess I should say.
[01:22] <ClayG> price is not a concern
[01:22] <thor> kmull: my upgrade to edgy went bad too...X wouldn't start. I found that all I had to do was go through the upgrade again from the command prompt. It appears edgy cannot upgrade X if you attempt to run the upgrade from a terminal within X
[01:22] <ClayG> i am thinking about another HPdv6000t, sony, toshiba, ibm/len or macbook
[01:23] <sethk> ClayG, then I would go with a thinkpad, if you want an x86 type box.
[01:23] <ClayG> but kinda want to be able to run 'doze
[01:23] <jadacyrus> gyaresu: yes.. /dev/video0 exists
[01:23] <sethk> ClayG, sony's battery prices are outrageous, and their batteries also don't last
[01:23] <kmull> @thor: do you have a GTalk account to walk me through it?
[01:23] <gyaresu> jadacyrus, you right from here?
[01:23] <ey> XAWTV X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode WHAT does it MEAN??
[01:23] <ey> :S
[01:23] <thor> kmull: when you upgrade again from the command prompt, all that will be installed the second time around is X...the rest is already there. And no...no gtalk
[01:23] <ClayG> also my hpdv6000 had built in bluetooth and webcam
[01:23] <ClayG> loved that
[01:23] <sethk> ClayG, well, none of the laptop batteries last all that long, but I've had more problems with the sonys
[01:23] <jadacyrus> gyaresu: well the camera still isnt being detected
[01:23] <thor> kmull: I am on a boat on my way to the bahamas...sitting in a marina in AL
[01:23] <ClayG> sethk: the hp lasted 2 hours, lol
[01:24] <ReWT_AxS> thor so dont u[grade in terminal?
[01:24] <ClayG> with moderate use, no burning, no wifi still died at 2 hours
[01:24] <gyaresu> !offtopic > ClayG  sethk
[01:24] <sethk> ClayG, the battery, you mean?
[01:24] <ClayG> sorry gayresu
[01:24] <ClayG> yeah
[01:24] <gyaresu> ClayG, just too busy in here....
[01:24] <gyaresu> ClayG, you understand.
[01:24] <kmull> @thor: I live in Bham. Lucky dog you.
[01:24] <rsteele> sup
[01:24] <thor> ReWR_AxS: that is my interpretation of what I have seen. I think if you stop X first, then upgrade from a tty it might go OK
[01:24] <ClayG> gotcha yeah of coarse
[01:24] <gyaresu> jadacyrus, detected by what?
[01:24] <kmull> @thor: do I just plug it in to my router, then do sudo apt-get dist-upgrade?
[01:24] <jadacyrus> camstream..camorama...any program that uses the camera
[01:25] <gravyface> ubuntu 6.06 server on a compaq proliant DL380 == uber slow install
[01:25] <ClayG> so sethk what would you go with, it price was no concern, to run ubuntu of coarse, lol
[01:25] <aios> where can i find grub.conf?
[01:25] <rsteele> investigating
[01:25] <gravyface> use the find command aios
[01:25] <gyaresu> jadacyrus, and you are pointing it /dev/video0 in prefs?
[01:25] <sethk> ClayG, ubuntu runs very well on my thinkpads, including the wireless
[01:25] <thor> kmull: yeah...from the command prompt upgrade just like you did from the terminal. When I did that apt-get went out and got X and after that everything booted fine. Worth a try
[01:25] <ReWT_AxS> well damn
[01:25] <ReWT_AxS> lol
[01:25] <gyaresu> gravyface, aios use 'locate'
[01:25] <aios> gravyface: the find command doesnt find anything
[01:25] <kmull> @thor I'll try that and get the results back here
[01:25] <kmull> @thor: enjoy the Bahamas!
[01:25] <gyaresu> gravyface, aios  update the locate database by 'sudo updatedb'
[01:26] <ClayG> try locate
[01:26] <aios> gyaresu: locate either. i guess i have to update the db, but i still dont knwo how
[01:26] <sethk> aios, grub.conf may not exist
[01:26] <gravyface> oi what happened to find?
[01:26] <wastrel> <3 sudo updatedb
[01:26] <jadacyrus> gyaresu: ..there are no preferences..the only device that comes up listed is my tv tuner card..i tihnk that might be /dev/vide0 actually
[01:26] <sethk> aios, grub.conf is just a symbolic link to menu.lst
[01:26] <aios> gyaresu: thanks, thats a big help
[01:26] <sethk> aios, menu.lst is the real file.  grub.conf is optional
[01:26] <aios> sethk: thanks you!
[01:27] <gyaresu> jadacyrus, try the old unplug/plug and tail -f /var/log/messages
[01:27] <rBlong2u1> ok so unless I am not a programmer I won't be able to run Ubunutu ATM ---->"then just sis based cards. the same vid card works in breezy so the xog devs broke something end of story."
[01:27] <jadacyrus> gyaresu: Nov  7 19:27:15 nanofiber kernel: [17181825.172000]  usb 1-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 10
[01:27] <jadacyrus> Nov  7 19:27:15 nanofiber kernel: [17181825.364000]  usb 1-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[01:28] <aios> gyaresu: is it safe to update grub.conf directly, or should i use some tool?
[01:28] <LGKeiz> baxter_kylie: i tried installing the driver, it successed but still no network list =/
[01:28] <AsheD> how do I make Evolution continue running in the background, with a tray icon, instead of a full window?
[01:28] <sethk> aios, back up the file, then update away.
[01:28] <shwag> how do I check what version of a file is installed ?
[01:28] <aios> sethk: thanks
[01:29] <sethk> aios, there are some tools you can use, but I prefer editing.  if you're comfortable with editing the file, it's perfectly ok.
[01:29] <gyaresu> aios, update menu.lst and install the new boot parameters by 'grub-install --no-floppy'
[01:29] <azureal> could someone briefly explain what svn and cvs is ?
[01:29] <sethk> gyaresu, not necessary to install after updating
[01:29] <sethk> gyaresu, if grub is already installed, you just change the file
[01:30] <gyaresu> sethk, really? that's new.
[01:30] <shwag> is aptitude better the apt-get ?
[01:30] <gyaresu> sethk, Probably not new but old habits die hard.
[01:30] <aios> gyaresu: sethk: so it'll be changed after reboot? .. i'm trying to add acpi=on, if that matters..
[01:30] <sethk> gyaresu, lilo needs to be updated.  grub understands the file system  :)
[01:30] <charles> does anyone do any FPGA work (with xilinx hardware)?
[01:30] <neemz> Hey folks, I have Xgl and Beryl working nicely, but I want to switch to AIGLX + beryl so my games will run, how can I switch over?
[01:30] <[GuS] > Bonne Nuit!
[01:30] <sethk> aios, yes, it will be reflected at the next boot
[01:30] <gyaresu> aios, yep.
[01:30] <aios> thanks
[01:30] <foomanchew> anyone use Cacti here ?
[01:30] <sethk> aios, you can also change parameters at the grub boot prompt, if you want to try it out before you edit the menu.lst
[01:31] <jadacyrus> gyaresu: ..hmm im reading this page you sent me says people got it to work with this spca5xx driver..how come it does not work for me?
[01:31] <gyaresu> jadacyrus, I don't know. Did you get out put from 'messages'
[01:31] <jadacyrus> gyaresu: yes
[01:31] <gyaresu> jadacyrus, and dmesg?
[01:31] <aios> sethk: you mean, in case it crashes horrible? :) i'll try, then. thanks.
[01:31] <beavis> can someone tell me where is the idea pool for  Feisty Fawn?
[01:31] <jadacyrus> gyaresu: yes...the one from messages just said new full speed usb device..same thing with dmesg
[01:32] <sethk> aios, well, that's one thing.  when I'm playing around, I copy the one I'm working on, and make another one just like it, then make changes to the copy.  that way I still can boot the original.  with the file backed up, you can always revert, also
[01:32] <kmull> can someone help me? sudo isn't accepting my password
[01:33] <Toma-> kmull: caps lock on?
[01:33] <kmull> no
[01:33] <astrum-x> what would be the best way to install the tun/tap driver in ubuntu?
[01:33] <sethk> kmull, do you get an error message?
[01:33] <kmull> sudo: 1 incorrect password attempt
[01:33] <kmull> when i type in the password and hit enter, it doesn't move up a line
[01:33] <astrum-x> or could someone point the best way to recomplile my kernel, i am a gentoo user and this my first experience with a pre-built kernel
[01:33] <kmull> i have to hit enter twice to get it to react
[01:33] <gyaresu> jadacyrus, are you running edgy (i can only think that a kernel upgrade might have some love for you)
[01:34] <jadacyrus> gyaresu: yes i am on edgy..with 2.6.17-10-generic
[01:34] <sethk> astrum-x, install the kernel source, copy the config file from /boot to the root of the source tree.  exactly the same as gentoo at that point
[01:34] <thor> kmull: you were working off a bad upgrade, right?
[01:34] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> sigh..
[01:34] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> I wish I could get wireless to work
[01:34] <kmull> thor: yes
[01:34] <JohnM555> Ugh...this is so frusturating
[01:34] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> it's not showing any networks.
[01:34] <sethk> astrum-x, the kernel is the kernel.  the only difference is that the package manager will put it at /usr/src/kernel-version-string, instead of /usr/src/linux
[01:34] <kmull> thor: i can't do apt-get etc. without sudo accepting my password
[01:35] <astrum-x> thanks
[01:35] <thor> kmull: you might have corrupted the shadow password file...and I don't know how to recover that.
[01:35] <sethk> kmull, the wonders of sudo, yes.  did it ever work for you?  is this a new installation, or did it work and then get messed up?
[01:35] <kmull> thor: super!
[01:35] <astrum-x> do i need to do anything special the debian way?
[01:35] <thor> kmull: have you tried switching to another tty (alt-F2 through alt-F6?)
[01:35] <GaiaX11> When I log into the system there are some messages while booting. So, which is the file that stores those messages. I need to find an error in my boot time that should be there.
[01:35] <sethk> kmull, if your password is bonked, you can boot the live cd, remove it from passwd and shadow, and then reset it
[01:35] <kmull> sethk: it worked in the past, the bad upgrade is what i am dealing with now
[01:35] <astrum-x> or does anyone know a faster way to install the tun/tap driver
[01:36] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Does anyone know why my eth1 isn't scanning for networks it saids "no scan results" I tried adding it manually, I've installed my windows driver, with wrapper, and still it doesn't work.
[01:36] <JohnM555> On this site: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessNetworking The screenshot shows a box to enter the WEP key, I need that, but mine doesn't have that option, I was looking in some of the wifi docs, but so far I haven't come across iwconfig docs
[01:36] <sethk> kmull, boot the live cd.  then you can either remove the password, and set it again after you reboot.  if you know how, you can chroot and set it directly
[01:36] <kmull> thor: alt-f2 worked...
[01:36] <thor> sethk: the live CD works from ram...how do you get it to write the changes to the hard drive?
[01:36] <kmull> one sec
[01:36] <thor> kmull: alt-f1 is where you are trying to start X....that is probably the problem
[01:36] <jadacyrus> gyaresu: do you think its possible that my TV Tuner card could be interfering with the camera drivers?
[01:37] <gyaresu> jadacyrus, no.
[01:37] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Well does anyone
[01:37] <sm> hi.. can anyone help me get mysql running again on ubuntu edgy on amd 64 ? it fails on startup
[01:37] <sethk> thor, you can mount the root file system somewhere.  then remove the string between the colons for the user in /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow.  Or, after mounting, you can do chroot /mnt/wherever, and then /mnt/wherever becomes your root file system
[01:37] <gyaresu> JohnM555, Still havn't tried 'man iwconfig' ?
[01:37] <sethk> thor, once you do the chroot, then it is as if you had booted normally.  so you set the passwd, and it writes
[01:38] <gyaresu> LGKeiz, are you using 'iwlist eth1 scan' ?
[01:38] <thor> sethk: cool...I didn't know you could get into the passwd files
[01:38] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> gyaresu, would you know why I don't get any network results with scan
[01:38] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> lgkeiz@lgkeiz-laptop:~$ iwlist eth1 scanning
[01:38] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> eth1      No scan results
[01:38] <sethk> thor, as root, you can
[01:38] <sm> mysql error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/tpAsqH57.html
[01:38] <sethk> thor, and of course when you boot the live cd you are root
[01:38] <jadacyrus> gyaresu: is there anything else besides the spca5xx driver that I need to have?
[01:38] <gyaresu> LGKeiz-Ubuntu, drivers are not working properly.
[01:38] <thor> sethk: right....guess I never faced it so never figured it out <smile>
[01:39] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> gyaresu: I've installed wrapper, installed my driver, restart -> still no scan results
[01:39] <sethk> thor, doesn't come up often, but very valuable when you need it.
[01:39] <gyaresu> jadacyrus, I can't see anything. I'd try adding that driver to /etc/modules and rebooting.
[01:39] <thor> sethk: cool trick....much better than Tom's Root Boot
[01:39] <kmull> apt-get dist-upgrade says there is a failure fetching the files
[01:39] <gyaresu> LGKeiz-Ubuntu, iwconfig does list a device though?
[01:39] <JohnM555> I thought I installed my driver correctly, but it says the wlan0 interface should exist and it doesn't
[01:39] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> gyaresu - sec
[01:39] <JohnM555> Or are they unrelated?
[01:40] <RogueThunder> Hello to everyone... Anyone here think they might be able to figure out how to get the linksys wusb54G v1(no, not the v4 that has the big stickied forum post in the forums...), ive tried most methods already and they... failed... though i may have messed something up along the way... sounds like im not the only wlan confused person with ubuntu >.<
[01:40] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:off/any  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"
[01:40] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid
[01:40] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu>           RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[01:40] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu>           Link Quality:0  Signal level:0  Noise level:0
[01:40] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu>           Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
[01:40] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu>           Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0
[01:40] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> gyaresu - there ya go lol
[01:40] <sethk> RogueThunder, definitely a frequent source of confusion
[01:40] <RogueThunder> Indeed...
[01:40] <gyaresu> !flood > LGKeiz-Ubuntu
[01:40] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> >>
[01:40] <RogueThunder> Especialy when you have a strange varient prism 54 one.
[01:40] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> !paste
[01:40] <Tokenbad> anyone else here had problems with proftpd installing during the apt-get install?
[01:40] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[01:40] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> :P
[01:41] <kmull> "temporary failure resolving archive.ubuntu.com"
[01:41] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> I know, just didn't think it would flood the channel
[01:41] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> >.> it is indeed 1 line
[01:41] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> wait
[01:41] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> no it isn't
[01:41] <thor> kmull: sounds like you no longer have the network access
[01:41] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> in xchat it is
[01:41] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> sorry :p
[01:41] <kmull> well i was plugged directly in?
[01:41] <thor> kmull: can you 'ping google.com' ?
[01:41] <gary_> hi
[01:41] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> gyaresu: well what do I do..
[01:42] <Curley_Sue> !help
[01:42] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl  -  Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[01:42] <crzygrndpa> Does Ubuntu
[01:42] <crzygrndpa> Does Ubuntu Server set an Apache2 username by default?
[01:42] <crzygrndpa> If not, how do I create one?
[01:42] <gyaresu> LGKeiz-Ubuntu, make sure the network you are scanning for is not accidentally turned off. then swear.
[01:42] <thor> kmull: I can't get to archive.ubuntu.com either...might be down
[01:42] <raghu206> i have converted my windows partition from ntfs to fat but in ubuntu the drive doesnt appear ? pls
[01:42] <ClayG> ?
[01:42] <gyaresu> LGKeiz-Ubuntu, ndiswrapper can be a pain.
[01:42] <Kingsqueak> crzygrndpa: should be www-data
[01:43] <thor> kmull: there...it worked that time...might have been a temp network problem
[01:43] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> gyaresu: trust me the network(s) are on, Because I'm connected from my desktop, which is on windows :)
[01:43] <kmull> thor: ok. let me try. i am having to switch cables back and forth
[01:43] <robio376> #Nickserv
[01:43] <gyaresu> raghu206, appear how? from command line? running what prog?
[01:43] <gyaresu> LGKeiz-Ubuntu, aye. problem then.
[01:43] <raghu206> gyaresu, the drive doesnt appear on the desktop
[01:44] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> gyaresu: hold on I'm going to try to manually connect to the network
[01:44] <crzygrndpa> Kingsqueak: awesome, that worked. Thanks!
[01:44] <gyaresu> raghu206, do you know how to use the command line?
[01:44] <astrum-x> so what is this intrid image?
[01:44] <rBlong2u1> hi
[01:44] <astrum-x> never seen that before in grub.conf
[01:44] <rBlong2u1> is it possible to change the framebuffer
[01:44] <raghu206> gyaresu, i know but i need to mount it automatically editing fstab
[01:44] <sethk> astrum-x, initrd is an in-memory file system.  usually used to load drivers needed to boot from disk
[01:45] <jadacyrus> gyaresu:..Still no luck..i also removed my tv tuner card and now there is no /dev/video at all
[01:45] <gyaresu> raghu206, so 'sudo fdisk -l' sees it fine?
[01:45] <astrum-x> sethk: so after i recompile my kernel, do i need to replace both files in /boot/grub?
[01:45] <sethk> astrum-x, usually not
[01:45] <gyaresu> jadacyrus, it'n not being recognised. sorry.
[01:45] <jadacyrus> gyaresu: dang!!!
[01:45] <rBlong2u1> hey how do I go about changing famrebuffer with ubuntu, I know how to do this in Gentoo, but I don't fine a way to tweak the kernel with Ubuntu
[01:46] <sethk> astrum-x, if you did, you would probably know it.  Unless you added a module that needs to be loaded so the box can boot, you don't have to worry about it.
[01:46] <gyaresu> jadacyrus, but one of those comments (suse guy) seemed to work. so don't give up hope.
[01:46] <raghu206> gyaresu, it shows me correct
[01:46] <sethk> rBlong2u1, it's exactly the same in gentoo and ubuntu.  it's just kernel config
[01:46] <gyaresu> raghu206, and so have you entered an fstab entry and marked it as 'auto'
[01:46] <kmully> thor: i can't ping anything. iwconfig shows eth0 has "no wireless extensions"
[01:47] <thor> kmully: right...sounds like you lost the wifi drivers in the aborted upgrade
[01:47] <rBlong2u1> sethk: is there a kernel config in Ubuntu?
[01:47] <ThomBrown> how do you format an external hd in Ubuntu?
[01:47] <kmully> im plugged directly in though?
[01:47] <raghu206> gyaresu, the other drives mount with out that option
[01:47] <sethk> rBlong2u1, the kernel configuration is part of the kernel.  has nothing to do with distros.  it's the same in all distros.
[01:47] <luke2008> does anybody know if BCM4318 wireless network adaptor work in Ubuntu?
[01:47] <thor> kmully: then iwconfig has no meaning...try ifconfig and see if you have an ip address
[01:47] <gyaresu> raghu206, so do you want it to automount or not?
[01:48] <gyaresu> luke2008, have you searched the web?
[01:48] <sethk> rBlong2u1, if you mean the kernel configuration that is the first step of a kernel build, indeed, it's exactly the same
[01:48] <raghu206> gyaresu, exactly i want it
[01:48] <astrum-x> erm, i don't really want to recompile cause i don't have my kernel conf file
[01:48] <Moltov> erm... back >.<
[01:48] <ThomBrown> anyone??
[01:48] <sethk> astrum-x, yes you do.  it's in /boot
[01:48] <ThomBrown> how do you format an external hd in Ubuntu?
[01:48] <gyaresu> raghu206, so why would you not put 'auto' in your fstab?
[01:48] <astrum-x> so is there a better way to install the tun/tap driver
[01:48] <sethk> ThomBrown, mkfs.  you don't exactly format.  but mkfs is what you want
[01:48] <motin> What's happening? Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/php5-common_5.1.2-1ubuntu3.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[01:48] <gyaresu> ThomBrown, fdisk
[01:49] <rBlong2u1> sethk:  you I have this horrible flickering issue with Ubuntu... now I gotta fix a few stuff and hope then it no longer will flicker
[01:49] <gyaresu> ThomBrown, then mkfs.
[01:49] <raghu206> gyaresu, i mean the other drives that appear automatically doesnt have auto
[01:49] <Moltov> If theres a mod around or yknow anyone that can kick... "RogueThunder" is just my shadow >.< inet bliped.
[01:49] <sethk> rBlong2u1, I remember, yes.
[01:49] <Moltov> Anyway...
[01:49] <gyaresu> raghu206, your point?
[01:49] <janga> ThomBrown, gparted, if you want GUI
[01:49] <ThomBrown> so "sudo fdisk <name>"
[01:49] <luke2008> does anybody know if broadcom wireless adapter works in Ubuntu
[01:49] <ThomBrown> ??
[01:49] <rBlong2u1> sethk:  ok I'll be back with Ubuntu LiveCD....
[01:49] <sethk> rBlong2u1, get rid of the frame buffer, if it's in use.  make sure your vertical frequency is different than your house current frequency (house current freq is usually 60hz in north america, 50 hz in europe)
[01:50] <raghu206> gyaresu, i think shud i chage UUID in fstab?
[01:50] <gyaresu> ThomBrown, yes. If you want to change the partitions.
[01:50] <Moltov> So anyway, anyone giving out numbers for helping people in need of wlan help?...
[01:50] <Moltov> lol
[01:50] <gyaresu> raghu206, ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/
[01:50] <shini`> luke2008: i'm using a broadcom-type card
[01:51] <gyaresu> luke2008, 'lspci' and take the output to google.
[01:51] <fblade> hi guys wonder if you could help me out here, i can seem to be getting any p2p software to connect or download  but  yet the equivalent will work brilliant on windows
[01:51] <motin> What's happening? Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/php5-common_5.1.2-1ubuntu3.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found
[01:51] <shini`> luke2008: what gyra said is probably the best...
[01:51] <motin> how can I fix this?
[01:51] <motin> I see in the repos that the 3.4 version is out
[01:51] <LGKeiz[LoLDemosD> I wish I could connect to wireless.
[01:52] <motin> but apt-get update doesnt help
[01:52] <gyaresu> fblade, "any"?
[01:52] <RPO> hello?
[01:52] <janga> fblade, what programs?
[01:52] <fblade> frostwire wont work amule wont and bittornado
[01:52] <gyaresu> motin, sources.list is wrong or you need to 'update'
[01:52] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> kingsqueak: I've installed my windows driver, but... Now in network-manager There is no "wireless" anything anymore, lol
[01:52] <bruenig> !hi | RPO
[01:52] <ubotu> RPO: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!
[01:53] <raghu206> gyaresu,what u mean by by-uuid it shows me no file or directory
[01:53] <gyaresu> laugh @ bruenig
[01:53] <janga> fblade, amule works better than emule for me.
[01:53] <RPO> I'm trying to ensure my Edgy release is the final version and I type $sudo opt-get update and it says sudo: opt-get: command not found
[01:53] <gyaresu> raghu206,  'ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/'
[01:53] <bruenig> RPO. it is apt-get not opt-get
[01:54] <fblade> well i cant ever find sever lists
[01:54] <gyaresu> raghu206, that's were you find the UUID needed for fstab
[01:54] <RPO> thank you!
[01:54] <fblade> says faild to download
[01:54] <astrum-x> I like beef sticks
[01:54] <RPO> btw, how do I see the current version?
[01:54] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu_: well you were set last night, just something wrong with your router and connection settings most likely
[01:54] <sethk> RPO, apt, not opt
[01:54] <Moltov> Anyone want to try to help me get my wireless card working...? Linksys Wusb54g v1(Not v4, meaning the wusb54g stickied topic in the forums is kinda useless)
[01:54] <janga> fblade, you first ave to google for a server.met
[01:54] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu_: you don't need ndis drivers with an intel wireless on a Dell
[01:54] <gyaresu> RPO, 'cat /etc/issue'
[01:54] <motin> gyaresu: update wont work - sources.list is from a fresh install ubuntu server
[01:54] <raghu206> gyaresu, go it :))
[01:54] <fblade> janga yea
[01:55] <LGKeiz[LoLDemosD> Kingsqueak: well I tried connecting AGAIN and it doesn't work
[01:55] <raghu206> gyaresu, shud i now edit fstab
[01:55] <Alethes> does the latest evolution have issues with imap?
[01:55] <gyaresu> raghu206, yes.
[01:55] <RPO> Ubuntu 6.10 \n \l
[01:55] <LGKeiz[LoLDemosD> kingsqueak: why would it have problems?!!? Im connected to the router -RIGHT NOW- on my windows system
[01:55] <LGKeiz[LoLDemosD> I also upgraded to 6.10 lol
[01:55] <Alethes> 2.8.1, that is
[01:55] <RPO> Is Ubuntu 6.10 \n \l the latest
[01:55] <gyaresu> motin, can you ping?
[01:55] <gyaresu> RPO, yes.
[01:55] <apokryphos> RPO: yes; more info in the FAQ
[01:55] <sethk> LGKeiz-Ubuntu, not all the linux wireless drivers support all the features you may need
[01:55] <raghu206> gyaresu, brb
[01:55] <fblade> I dont see why frostwire just stuck "enabling open information sharing" though
[01:55] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz[LoLDemosD: what does    lsmod | grep ipw      show you?
[01:56] <cristobal> holah
[01:56] <fblade> and bittornado just dont want to download anything
[01:56] <astrum-x> I like cheddar cheese hot dogs
[01:56] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> k
[01:56] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> sec
[01:56] <raul> hi
[01:56] <gyaresu> fblade, run progs from the command line so as to see their output.
[01:56] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> shows nothing
[01:56] <raul> hello
[01:56] <motin> gyaresu: yes I can ping security.ubuntu.com with dns res but no replies
[01:56] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> kingsqueak: obviously nothing
[01:56] <cristobal> hello raul
[01:56] <janga> fblade, i dont know about frostwire, sorry
[01:56] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu_: what does     dmesg | grep ipw
[01:56] <raul> hi
[01:56] <motin> gyaresu: oh now replies
[01:56] <D13GU> hi all!
[01:56] <raul> cristobal
[01:56] <raul> how're you
[01:56] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> nothing
[01:56] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> Lol
[01:56] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> shows nothing
[01:57] <raul> cristobal where are you from
[01:57] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu_: what does     dmesg | grep -i wireless
[01:57] <cristobal> hi, user you edubuntu
[01:57] <D13GU> i have ubuntu 5.10 installed in my pc.. i use Xfce, how to update this? for current version?
[01:57] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> nothing LOL
[01:57] <fblade> this is what i get for frostwire  http://pastebin.com/819392
[01:57] <bruenig> !frostwire
[01:57] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[01:57] <cristobal> i'm fromm spain
[01:57] <bruenig> !es
[01:57] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:57] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu_: do you have the restricted modules loaded ? do you have all the repositories enabled for apt?
[01:57] <gyaresu> !upgrade > D13GU,
[01:58] <Moltov> Anyone want to try to help me get my wireless card working...? please?... its a Linksys Wusb54g v1(Not v4, meaning the wusb54g stickied topic in the forums is kinda useless)
[01:58] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> kingsqueak: uhm I don't know..
[01:58] <D13GU> gyaresu,  apt-get --dist-upgrade?
[01:58] <neemz> hey folks was wondering if you could help me, I've got xorg-air running now but whenever I load up any GL app (like beryl or glxgears) it crashes the X server and takes me back to login
[01:58] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> Kingsqueak: how do I know?
[01:58] <raul> Gracias a Dios entonces hablas espaol
[01:58] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> o__o
[01:58] <wastrel> !es | raul
[01:58] <ubotu> raul: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[01:58] <sethk> cristobal, they didn't mean for you to go away, if you want to speak english.  they were just telling you that spanish channel exists
[01:58] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> o__o
[01:58] <gyaresu> D13GU, no!
[01:58] <cristobal> si y tu tambin
[01:58] <D13GU> ?
[01:58] <raul> ok
[01:58] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> Kingsqueak:  how do I know lol..
[01:58] <raul> i'm gonna speak english
[01:59] <raul> sorry for all
[01:59] <motin> why on earth is this channel not split up into areas of interest? #ubuntu-networking, #ubuntu-installation, #ubuntu-server  etc?
[01:59] <RPO> When I try to change my screen resolution from 1280x1024 to something lower (1024x768, 800x600), it takes me back to the logon screen and it won't change.
[01:59] <Moltov> because getting help from someone whos good at more than one would be insane then mortin
[01:59] <neemz> btw is there a better channel for me to ask about my broken xserver?
[01:59] <D13GU> gyaresu,  how to? install 6.10? :)
[01:59] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu_: in /etc/apt/sources.list  is multiverse and universe and restricted enabled?
[02:00] <leitao> Hello. I have installed ubuntu 6.10, and i want to change the Applications Icon, which actually is with the ubuntu logo.  How could i do that?
[02:00] <motin> Moltov: but now almost noone getes help - everything drowns
[02:00] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know of a command-line encrypted chat program?
[02:00] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> Kingsqueak:   I don't know, how do I view it?
[02:00] <gyaresu> D13GU, sorry on phone.
[02:00] <Moltov> Motin: not realy... i guess its a geek skill to be able to see through this all
[02:00] <D13GU> gyaresu,  ok
[02:00] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu_: do this    grep restricted /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:00] <motin> Moltov: well - the noobs wont se it, and they need the help
[02:01] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> !paste
[02:01] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:01] <Pretorian^> I've set a directory's permission to 300 (write and execute is only available for current user). If I, through bash, write "sudo ls", I can see the files. I'd like to do something similar in the File Browser. How do I do that?
[02:01] <Moltov> Motin: What my real question is, why arnt those who are working something out 1-1 using private chats, hence clearing the main room up
[02:01] <motin> "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/php5-xsl_5.1.2-1ubuntu3.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found" again and again - I now that "http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/php5-xsl_5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4_i386.deb" exists. will it be the same if I install from manually downloaded debs?
[02:01] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> Kingsqueak:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30571/
[02:01] <robio376> D13GU, I would suggest a clean install of 6.10 rather then an upgrade
[02:01] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> o.o
[02:01] <raul> how can i burn a CD on this OP
[02:01] <raul> OS
[02:01] <RPO> When I try $ sudo apt-get dist-update it says:  E: Invalid operation dist-update
[02:01] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu_: k, one sec
[02:01] <Tokenbad> ok I removed proftpd and then tried to reinstall and now get an error saying: IPv6 getaddrinfo 'You-desktop' error: Name or service not known....Anyone know what it means about ipv6?
[02:02] <motin> Moltov: because then others couldnt help out together
[02:02] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know of a command-line encrypted chat program?  I sometimes need to talk to a buddy securely.
[02:02] <bluefox83> !wmv
[02:02] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:02] <motin> RPO: dist-upgrade
[02:02] <Pelo> raul,  just put in a blank cd and you the app should shart
[02:02] <Pelo> start
[02:02] <D13GU> robio376, , problems... erase my files
[02:02] <motin> be sure to backup before! RPO
[02:02] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu_: do  dpkg -l | grep restricted    paste me that too
[02:02] <elden> hey guys, does ur broadcom 4306 lan card working??
[02:02] <DBordello> I am trying to use a dualhead setup.  I have two devices/monitors/screens defined.  But in the layout if i have screen 1 rightof screen 0 everything is fine (correct resolution on each monitor etc).  But if i put in the layout screen0 rightof screen1 one of the screens has the inccorect resolution.  Any ideas so that my mouse scrolls the correct direction
[02:02] <bimberi> raul: burn a cd from iso? copy one? ...?
[02:02] <Moltov> Motin: same problem with your solution to the clutter, most knolageible people we have, are very diverse, not spesific like that.
[02:02] <robio376> do a backup first
[02:02] <pumukynho> para instalar un progra sin ser desde repositorio komo se hace
[02:02] <thor> does anyone know how to make Xchat default to firefox instead of konqueror?
[02:03] <motin> Moltov: look like now - how likely is it that my problem is recognized - already three screens up?
[02:03] <apokryphos> thor: are you on KDE?
[02:03] <apokryphos> thor: join us in
[02:03] <apokryphos> #kubuntu
[02:03] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> Kingsqueak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30572/
[02:03] <apokryphos> geh, annoying location of # 8)
[02:03] <SpudDogg> Does anyone know of a command-line encrypted chat program?  I sometimes need to talk to a buddy securely.
[02:03] <elden> hey guys, does ur broadcom 4306 lan card working???
[02:03] <snoops> I've got a mysql db with some data in it I need to keep, but I'm interesting in upgrading (a clean install) from dapper to edgy..if I dump all the data, including indexed columns etc, can I just import my mysql dump back in without any problems?
[02:03] <thor> apokryphos: no...I installed kde over ubuntu to have the option, and now xchat goes to konq instead of firefox
[02:04] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu_: o.k., next up   modprobe -l ipw*
[02:04] <apokryphos> thor: alt+f2 -> kcontrol  and then look for components. Change default browser to Firefox
[02:04] <apokryphos> thor: also, if you can please file a bug report about that.
[02:04] <motin> "Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/php5-xsl_5.1.2-1ubuntu3.3_i386.deb  404 Not Found" again and again - I now that "http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/p/php5/php5-xsl_5.1.2-1ubuntu3.4_i386.deb" exists. will it be the same if I install from manually downloaded debs?
[02:04] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> Kingsqueak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30573/
[02:04] <apokryphos> thor: xchat should respect gnome's default when in gnome
[02:05] <thor> apokryphos: I actually run enlightenment, and have gnome and kde just for 'teaching/demo' purposes
[02:05] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu_: o.k., what exact model Dell is this?
[02:05] <apokryphos> ahh
[02:05] <azureal> lol teaching/demo?
[02:05] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> Inspiron 1300
[02:06] <apokryphos> thor: ok, well it seems to be  taking the kde default, so the change in kcontrol should still work
[02:06] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu_: gimme a bit, gonna look that up
[02:06] <sethk> motin, the 404 error is an http protocol thing, so it won't have that problem if you download the deb
[02:06] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> Kingsqueak:  k
[02:06] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> Kingsqueak:  thanks
[02:06] <sethk> motin, assuming the error code is correct.  I have no reason to think it isn't.
[02:06] <thor> apokryphos: thanks...will boot into kde in a bit and try it
[02:06] <motin> sethk: yes it is. but will apt and all be able to uninstall it if I download them from the web?
[02:06] <apokryphos> thor: no need to boot into kde. Just alt+f2 -> kcontrol
[02:06] <twstokes> Is three a way in Gnome to remove a certain application from the panel?
[02:06] <raul> Pelo the problem is that what i have is a movie and i want to make a copy of it.
[02:07] <lovethepirk> i run breezy and just downloaded 6.10 can i upgrade using the cd or do i have to write over my current version
[02:07] <mayalces> #univalle
[02:07] <janga> twstokes, rightklick on menu
[02:07] <Pelo> raul,   you mean copy a dvd ?
[02:07] <shini`> lovethepirk: i think it's better to do a clean install :|
[02:07] <raul> yeah.
[02:07] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu_:  next    lsmod | grep bcm
[02:07] <Pelo> ...
[02:07] <sethk> motin, yes
[02:07] <raul> pelo yeah
[02:07] <sethk> motin, installing from a local .deb will not harm your database.
[02:08] <motin> apt-get update is apparently NOT getting the updated security-sources. that is the core problem. why could that be and how can I fix that?
[02:08] <lovethepirk> shini`: should i format first or will the cd iso do that for me?
[02:08] <sethk> motin, only the initial download would be different.
[02:08] <motin> thats good sethk
[02:08] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> Kingsqueak:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30574/
[02:08] <sethk> motin, you already checked the obvious things like the repos, right?
[02:08] <Pelo> raul,  I don't know,  search for  dvd  in synaptic , maybe you have a package to rip dvd's and then you can copy it
[02:08] <raul> pelo i want to copi a movie that i have in one CD to another empity CD
[02:08] <twstokes> What do I do once I right click the menu?
[02:08] <lonran> how can i avoid loading a module at startup?
[02:08] <sethk> motin, I've been toggling between this window and some paying customers.  :)
[02:08] <Pelo> raul,   oh
[02:08] <aios> my laptop fan keeps running non-stop - i've now tried adding acpi=on, and #defoptions= quiet splash vga=791 noapic in grub/menu.lst ... i still don't really know what i'm doing, and i can't find much info online ..
[02:08] <twstokes> The program is Banshee
[02:08] <shini`> lovethepirk: the cd will make you do it, so you can just use the CD installer
[02:08] <motin> sethk: yes - it is a fresh ubuntu install - I trust the ubuntu devs
[02:09] <raul> pelo ?
[02:09] <sethk> aios, there is a separate kernel module for fan control, I believe.  let me check.
[02:09] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu_: o.k. edit this file  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist and make an entry to blacklist 'bcm43xx'
[02:09] <Pelo> raul,  just pop the cd in , right-click on the icon on the desktop,  you should get a copy command
[02:09] <lovethepirk> shini`: thanks
[02:09] <aios> sethk: thanks
[02:09] <Pelo> raul , I think
[02:09] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> kingsqueak - uhm .. how do I edit again?
[02:09] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu_: the kernel driver is interfering with your ndis driver and you do indeed need the ndis driver for your card
[02:09] <janga> twstokes, edit menu , i dont know the exact translation.
[02:09] <raul> ok i'll try it,
[02:09] <sethk> motin, on a fresh install you have to remove the comments from some repos.  they are commented out in the installed file.  sorry if I'm repeating stuff.
[02:09] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> sudo gedit ?
[02:09] <mango> hi every one. I have set up dynds on dynds.com but I can not access my pc as it is behind a firewall, can any one help please
[02:09] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu_:   'sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist'
[02:09] <raul> pelo ok i'll try it.
[02:09] <bobby> I'm installing cacti and I get the following error ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using      
[02:09] <bobby>   password: YES)
[02:09] <bobby> any help would be nice
[02:10] <twstokes> Ok, in edit menu I see the applications that the menu opens
[02:10] <PapaLion> one know the command to fix this?
[02:10] <PapaLion> Hey. I just installed edgy on a dell inspiron 1100
[02:10] <raul> pelo thanks
[02:10] <lovethepirk> ndiswrapper have 64 bit support now?
[02:10] <shini`> lovethepirk: np :D
[02:10] <tag> Ok I just upgraded to edgy
[02:10] <tag> but I have an SMP machine
[02:10] <PapaLion> I'm stuck in a low resolution - ideas?
[02:10] <tag> which kernel am I supposed to use?
[02:10] <robio376> mango, you need to mae sure you have a port available through your firewall
[02:10] <bruenig> bobby, how are you trying to install it. A "sudo apt-get install cacti" should do
[02:10] <twstokes> Is there an option to add to the program command?
[02:10] <tag> [17179569.184000]  WARNING: NR_CPUS limit of 1 reached.  Processor ignored.
[02:10] <tag> that's not tight
[02:10] <janga> twstokes, just uncheck the radio button for banshee
[02:10] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> Kingsqueak:  done
[02:10] <motin> sethk: yes I have done that. no probs you should repeat those things. just dont think they are valid this time
[02:11] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> Kingsqueak:  what now
[02:11] <mango> robio376: do I do that on the router
[02:11] <twstokes> Oh I see what you mean. My question is, once that program is open, how to I remove it from the window list?
[02:11] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu_: reboot now and see if it works, you still have ndis and the windows drivers installed right?
[02:11] <motin> anyone: what server do you get when you ping security.ubuntu.com ??
[02:11] <twstokes> I don't want to see it's window name once it is opened
[02:11] <RPO> I'm stuck in high resolution -- idea?
[02:11] <robio376> mango, yes, what type of router?
[02:11] <motin> I get auckland.ubuntu.com and maybbe it is lagging
[02:11] <PapaLion> I just installed edgy on an inspiron 1100 - stuck in a low resolution - anyone know the command to fix this?
[02:11] <Tokenbad> please can anyone help me with proftpd?
[02:11] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> Kingsqueak:  yeah it saids Hardware detected: yes lol so lets see
[02:11] <tag> oh I need the generic kernel
[02:11] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu_> -reboots-
[02:11] <LGKeiz[LoLDemosD> ok
[02:11] <LGKeiz[LoLDemosD> rebooting
[02:12] <Pretorian^> I've set a directory's permission to 300 (write and execute is only available for current user). If I, through bash, write "sudo ls", I can see the files. I'd like to do something similar in the File Browser. How do I do that?
[02:12] <mnepton> PapaLion: use this xorg.conf - http://www.geocities.com/randomnumbergenerator2001/xorg.conf.breezy.txt
[02:12] <mango> robio376: it is a netgear one. do I also need to specify the ip address of the host I need to get to, if yes how
[02:12] <Boelcke> I think I need to reinstall ubuntu (for a printer problem).  How can I preserve all the stuff I've installed?
[02:13] <LGKeiz-Windows> ok
[02:13] <motin> anyone: what server do you get when you ping security.ubuntu.com ??
[02:13] <LGKeiz-Windows> Kingsqueak, I installed Wifi- ratio or whatever
[02:13] <LGKeiz-Windows> In network-manager wireless dissapeared
[02:13] <robio376> mango yes,the ip and the port so something like this 192;186.1.1:1234
[02:13] <bruenig> auckland.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.138)
[02:13] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Windows: well load the ndis driver however that works
[02:13] <Pelo> Boelcke,   backuping your user folder ( with all the hidden folder and files) will allow you to restor all the tweaks you may have done,  but you will have to re-install the apps
[02:14] <robio376> mango: sorry something like this 192.168.1.1:1234
[02:14] <LGKeiz-Windows> kingsqueak: it automatically loads on startup I think
[02:14] <teenprogrammer> how do i zip a folder in commandline?
[02:14] <mango> robio376: thanks for help , I will try than get back to you
[02:14] <Boelcke> Pelo, yes, I was figuring I'd backup home with all its hidden files.
[02:14] <robio376> mango: no problem
[02:15] <Boelcke> Pelo, but I suppose I'll have to run through and reinstall all the apps I've installed through Synaptic...
[02:15] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Windows: what does   ndiswrapper -l   show you?
[02:15] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Windows: actually   'sudo ndiswrapper -l'
[02:15] <Pelo> Boelcke,  that's what I said
[02:16] <LGKeiz-Windows> bcmwl5 driver present, hardware present
[02:16] <ThomBrown> guys, I'm sorry . . . i can't seem to scroll far enough up to see what your answers were
[02:16] <ThomBrown> how do you format an external hd in Ubuntu?
[02:16] <aster> hello
[02:16] <ThomBrown> (I'm sorry
[02:16] <ThomBrown> fdisk, then?
[02:16] <LGKeiz-Windows> kingsqueak; bcmwl5 driver present, hardware present
[02:16] <aster> i am using xubuntu and I'd like to install gnome, but not its applications
[02:16] <aster> any idea?
[02:16] <Crankymonky> Hey, I just installled Xubuntu Dapper, just curious why It's asked me to insert the CD every time I've installed apps-so far when installing Automatix and when using Automatix
[02:16] <mnepton> ThomBrown: "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[02:16] <teenprogrammer> how do i compress a folder into one file ... like zip ... only i need to do it from command line
[02:16] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Windows: o.k. well   apt-get remove wifi-radar
[02:16] <sethk> ThomBrown, fsck.   for ext3 file system, fsck.ext3
[02:16] <RPO> My ubuntu Preferences-Screen resolution doesn't work.
[02:17] <LGKeiz-Windows> sudo apt-get remove wifi-radar *
[02:17] <LGKeiz-Windows> lol
[02:17] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Windows: yes
[02:17] <motin> iaghty then - no help here - I will use the ones from not-security then
[02:17] <mnepton> Crankymonky: 1). edit /etc/apt/sources.lst and 2). do not use Automatix or any such scripts, please
[02:17] <LGKeiz-Windows> done.
[02:17] <luke2008> does BCM4318 work?
[02:17] <LGKeiz-Windows> Kingsqueak: now what
[02:17] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Windows: reboot again please to be sure it's all killed off
[02:17] <dyssan3> Must go today now 1 dell xps m1710 laptop with shipping and carry case $700, 1 apple ipod new, 250 with shpping, 1 BFG Nvidia geforce 7950 PCIE video card price 300$ with shipping, 1 dell 23" monitor/tv combination: 350$. message aim at polter 1981 or msn at just it 1981 at hot mail dot com or yahoo at mbogden1981
[02:17] <sethk> Kingsqueak, you can use ... zip.  tar is better, though
[02:17] <LGKeiz-Windows> rebooting
[02:17] <Crankymonky> mnepton, Thanks for the sources hint, why so violently opposed to scripts?
[02:17] <luke2008> does BCM4318 work?
[02:17] <ThomBrown> THANKS
[02:17] <mnepton> teenprogrammer: tar -cvf filename.tar /path/to/dir && bzip2 filename.tar
[02:18] <mnepton> Crankymonky: because if they break in the *slightest* they can render a machine unusable.
[02:18] <Kingsqueak> you can do   tar jcvf file.tar.bz2  /foo    I think too
[02:18] <Crankymonky> mnepton, thanks for the tip
[02:18] <Tokenbad> please can anyone help me with proftpd?
[02:18] <LGKeiz-Windows> k
[02:18] <LGKeiz-Windows> Kingsqueak done
[02:19] <nolimitsoya> teenprogrammer, the -p shift is a good thing to add to you archiving command to. it preserves all permissions
[02:19] <nolimitsoya> *too
[02:19] <knix> Is there any way to get the rounded gnome-panel corners of gnome 2.2 in 2.16?
[02:19] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Windows: o.k. now  'sudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces'  comment out all the lines except the 'lo' two lines, like we did last night
[02:19] <LGKeiz-Windows> k sec
[02:19] <sethk> nolimitsoya, best is to use --preserve which is a meta option for all the permission related ones
[02:19] <twstokes> Janga, I found the solution
[02:19] <twstokes> Thanks for trying to help me
[02:20] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Windows: just be careful to NOT comment out lo or it will make a mess
[02:20] <twstokes> It was so simple I feel like an idiot
[02:20] <teenprogrammer> thanks for the archive command!
[02:20] <LGKeiz-Windows> Kingsqueak done lol
[02:20] <LGKeiz-Windows> want me to reboot?
[02:20] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Windows: reboot
[02:20] <sethk> twstokes, you found it.  feel good.
[02:21] <sethk> twstokes, it's always simple after you find it.  :)
[02:21] <dyssan3> Must go today now 1 dell xps m1710 laptop with shipping and carry case $700, 1 apple ipod new, 250 with shpping, 1 BFG Nvidia geforce 7950 PCIE video card price 300$ with shipping, 1 dell 23" monitor/tv combination: 350$. message aim at polter 1981 or msn at just it 1981 at hot mail dot com or yahoo at mbogden1981
[02:21] <LGKeiz-Windows> Kingsqueak 3.10 Edgy is pretty nice.. alot quicker
[02:21] <killown> hey
[02:21] <twstokes> Exactly - The hindsight bias!
[02:21] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Windows: yeah the startup changes are nice
[02:21] <dyssan3> Must go today now 1 dell xps m1710 laptop with shipping and carry case $700, 1 apple ipod new, 250 with shpping, 1 BFG Nvidia geforce 7950 PCIE video card price 300$ with shipping, 1 dell 23" monitor/tv combination: 350$. message aim at polter 1981 or msn at just it 1981 at hot mail dot com or yahoo at mbogden1981
[02:21] <tritium> dyssan3: please stop
[02:21] <killown> how I do to start program after gdm login?
[02:21] <dyssan3> Must go today now 1 dell xps m1710 laptop with shipping and carry case $700, 1 apple ipod new, 250 with shpping, 1 BFG Nvidia geforce 7950 PCIE video card price 300$ with shipping, 1 dell 23" monitor/tv combination: 350$. message aim at polter 1981 or msn at just it 1981 at hot mail dot com or yahoo at mbogden1981
[02:22] <killown> I put it in .xinitrc but dont work
[02:22] <LGKeiz-Windows> Kingsqueak k back on
[02:22] <peanutb> we need an op here
[02:22] <tritium> peanutb: I'm here.  What's up?
[02:22] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Windows: got nm-applet running like last night?
[02:22] <jbroome> spam tastic
[02:22] <LGKeiz-Windows> kingsqueak yeah but still no wireless Lol
[02:22] <peanutb> dyssan3 is spamming
[02:22] <peanutb> or was
[02:22] <Ryugi> go bless ubuntu
[02:22] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Windows: ndiswrapper -l
[02:22] <peanutb> tritium, thanks
[02:22] <killown> how I do to start program after gdm login?
[02:22] <Ryugi> Windows is shit compared to this
[02:22] <tritium> peanutb: :)
[02:22] <killown> I put it in .xinitrc but dont work
[02:23] <LGKeiz-Windows> samething as before
[02:23] <tritium> killown: add it to your session
[02:23] <LGKeiz-Windows> bcm blah blah present on both
[02:23] <LjL> !language | Ryugi
[02:23] <Ryugi> THis a true production Operating System
[02:23] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Windows: dmesg | grep -i broadcom
[02:23] <killown> ok
[02:23] <Ryugi> sorry LjL
[02:23] <LGKeiz-Windows> wow
[02:23] <LGKeiz-Windows> .. uhm
[02:23] <suckamc> did ubuntu 6.10 get rid of that nice gui hard disk mounter (forget the exact name, but you could see all your HDs in your system and mount them there) under system -> Prefrences?
[02:23] <LGKeiz-Windows> can I connect with lan?
[02:23] <LGKeiz-Windows> because typing this all out is annoying
[02:23] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Windows: should be able to yes
[02:24] <ubuntu_newbie> can someone ask 6.06 questions here?
[02:24] <tritium> ubuntu_newbie: sure
[02:24] <bimberi> suckamc: yes it has.  I've forlornely for an explanation
[02:24] <bruenig> suckamc, they got rid of something like that. disk manager or something
[02:24] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Windows: nm-applet should 'see' the wire when you plug it in
[02:24] <bimberi> suckamc: *searched forlornely
[02:24] <ubuntu_newbie> tritium: tks
[02:24] <bruenig> suckamc, sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/whatever /mount/point, how easy is that :)
[02:24] <ubuntu_newbie> Can someone help with no sound problem? or there is some link to follow in the net like a FAQ? Basically i had no sound starting kde session and something like a toc...toc... repeating when starting session with gnome.
[02:24] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Windows: just know that it doesn't like you to be plugged in and also try to bring up wireless
[02:25] <aios> anyone knows how i can stop my laptop fan from running continuously?
[02:25] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> lol
[02:25] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> ok
[02:25] <suckamc> bruenig: I've been trying to moun my second sata drive and my IDE drive but then it gives me the error I don't have permission
[02:25] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> [17179590.520000]  eth0: Broadcom 4400 10/100BaseT Ethernet 00:
[02:25] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> kingsqueak ^
[02:25] <bruenig> suckamc, did you use sudo?
[02:25] <suckamc> bruenig: to enter the folder under /media/ then
[02:25] <loutrine> suckamc: use sudo
[02:25] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: ahaaaa
[02:25] <RPO> Does anyone know how to change screen resolution from 1280x1024 to something more readable?
[02:25] <sethk> aios, there is a thing called lmsensors
[02:25] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: oh nm
[02:25] <sethk> aios, that's talks on the bus used to control the fan
[02:25] <bruenig> !xconfig | RPO
[02:25] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu:   dmesg | grep eth1
[02:26] <bruenig> !no ubotu?
[02:26] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> nothing
[02:26] <jbroome> i think he just flooded out
[02:26] <loutrine> RPO: system -> preferences -> screenresolution
[02:26] <suckamc> bruenig: I did.. hit enter by accident...  sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/windows
[02:26] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: man your driver isn't loading right
[02:26] <Tokenbad> * Starting ftp server proftpd  - IPv6 getaddrinfo 'You-desktop' error: Name or service not known:  Please anyone know what this means?
[02:26] <aios> sethk: .... is that .. a kernel module?
[02:26] <suckamc> bruenig: i get no errors for the mount but when i got to /media/windows its says I don't have permission to enter the folder
[02:26] <bruenig> suckamc, does /media/windows exist and and is it empty?
[02:26] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak: .. then what do I do ;__;'
[02:27] <bruenig> suckamc, oh ok
[02:27] <suckamc> bruenig: yup it exist.. I created it before I did the sudo mount ....
[02:27] <RPO> I tried system -> preferences -> screenresolution and when I make a change it just puts me back to the logon screen
[02:27] <aios> sethk: where can i read/learn about it? it like my 2nd day on linux, so i'm still lost at finding documentation
[02:27] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: one sec
[02:27] <bruenig> suckamc, yeah I misunderstood your error
[02:27] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> k
[02:27] <Draconicus> I'm looking for a program that can take the input from line-in and turn it into an oscilloscope visualization. Can anyone recommend something?
[02:27] <max_> hi, i think im having problems with my ALSA, i plug my guitar into my  computer and i can hear it through the speakers, but a tuner or any recording software wont pick it up. any ideas what it could be?
[02:27] <bruenig> RPO, do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg. Go through all the options until you get to screen resolution and change it.
[02:28] <suckamc> bruenig: Is there a way to lists all the drives that are availbe to be mounted in my system (thats what I really liked about that gui app)
[02:28] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  lol
[02:28] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  no problem
[02:28] <ubuntu_newbie> no sound notebook in kde.  toc..toc..toc.. in gnome session. someone to private chat about this ?
[02:29] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: ifconfig -a    does that show wlan0  ?
[02:29] <ubuntu_newbie> no alsaconf in ubuntu also ...
[02:29] <bruenig> suckamc, not sure
[02:29] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  nope
[02:29] <suckamc> Anyone know is there a way to list all the drives that can be mounted for your system?
[02:29] <RPO> It takes me to a screen that says "Users or powerpc machines..." and I seem to be stuck there.
[02:29] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: 'sudo depmod -a'   then   'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'
[02:30] <mango>  robio376: sorry man, I need more help please
[02:30] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: then  'sudo tail -20 /var/log/messages' and pastebin that for me
[02:30] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[02:30] <max_> hi, i think im having problems with my ALSA, i plug my guitar into my  computer and i can hear it through the speakers, but a tuner or any recording software wont pick it up. any ideas what it could be?
[02:30] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> When doing sudo modprobe ndiswrapper
[02:30] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> I get that error kingsqueak
[02:30] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: aha, k, gimme a bit
[02:30] <robio376> mango: i'm still here
[02:31] <amit> hi there
[02:31] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: try  'sudo ifdown wlan0'   then  'sudo ifup wlan0'
[02:31] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  when you're ready gimmie a holla, Im going afk for about 10 minutes, I'll say when Im back.
[02:32] <RPO> The resolutions I need were already selected, but that's not what Preferences - Screen resolution says
[02:32] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  let me try that quidk
[02:32] <peanutb> anyone know what the ubuntu DNS server install does?
[02:32] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> rgument
[02:32] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> lgkeiz@lgkeiz-laptop:~$ sudo ifdown wlan0
[02:32] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> ifdown: interface wlan0 not configured
[02:32] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  ^
[02:32] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: k, you need to read this URL
[02:33] <amit> any one workout the ltsp5 in ubuntu?????????
[02:33] <Kingsqueak> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[02:33] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: under section 10, your error is there
[02:33] <Ryugi> does anyone in here use sctp in linux (ubuntu)
[02:33] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: you need to follow the link and redo the ndiswrapper install probably
[02:33] <Kingsqueak> err sorry , section 9
[02:33] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  ...urgh
[02:33] <mango>  robio376:  I have added the dyndns host name to the router that was provided to me by dyndns.com but can not find an option where to add the port number
[02:34] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: Can not modprobe ndiswrapper, fatal error given
[02:34] <amit> any ltsp5 users here ?????
[02:34] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: that's what is wrong
[02:34] <robio376> mango: in your routers software you should have firewall setting
[02:34] <mango> robio376: Yes I do
[02:34] <robio376> mango: look for something called virtual servers
[02:35] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> k
[02:35] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> I'll try..
[02:35] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  If you really want to I can setup a remote desktop program....
[02:35] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> So I won't mess up lol
[02:35] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: heh no, I'm not doing it *for* you
[02:35] <suckamc> so I moungt the drive and then ubuntu says that my permissions are denied the enter the /media/folder whats up with that?
[02:35] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> lol
[02:36] <robio376> mango: you have to open a port to your pc your accessing
[02:37] <mango> robio376: I actualy have firewall rules only, within that I can only find out bound and inbound...could it be that
[02:37] <flasher> does edgy come with the latest flash?
[02:37] <mango> robio376: sorry for being a pain
[02:37] <knix> Is there any way to get the rounded gnome-panel corners of gnome 2.2 in 2.16?
[02:38] <robio376> mango: no prob, what model router?
[02:38] <jeffreyb> edgy = flash 7
[02:38] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  .. lol
[02:38] <mumrah> i'm having a problem cds, dvds are fine though
[02:38] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  I think it's removed.
[02:38] <regeya> xubuntu's default destkop looks surprisingly like ubuntu's default desktop.
[02:38] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: if you did all they said, now reinstall the driver
[02:38] <flasher> how do i know what version of flash i currently have??????????
[02:38] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: that modprobe ndiswrapper   should work after that
[02:39] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> lgkeiz@lgkeiz-laptop:~$ sudo rm -f /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper
[02:39] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> That removes it
[02:39] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> right
[02:39] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> lol
[02:39] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: when it works right, nm-applet should see your interface
[02:39] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  how do I reinstall it again?
[02:39] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> I need lthe link
[02:40] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: just put 'ndiswrapper' in the search box in the wiki
[02:40] <jeffreyb> flasher: Macromedia's detection page http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/welcome/ will interrogate your system for both Shockwave and Flash versions, including minor version details.
[02:40] <flasher> jeffreyb: thanks!1111
[02:40] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  Id on't see edgy lol
[02:41] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[02:41] <mumrah> anyone? i just upgraded to edgy and now i cant read cds, but dvds work fine
[02:41] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: section 8.2 should be where you can start
[02:41] <suckamc> man.. it seems all the little nice things in ubuntu were taken away in 6.10 ... :/
[02:41] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  uhm I uninstalled ndiswrapper why would that work?
[02:42] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: you uninstalled the modules if you followed that page
[02:42] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  rofl
[02:42] <flasher> My flash version is 7.0.68.0 , which is the latest version (as per http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash). so how come one site is  telling me to upgrade to the latest version?
[02:42] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  ok lol
[02:43] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  brb
[02:43] <mango> robio376: the router is dg834g, I think that I found it . It is on the same firewall rules mentioned, and I need to setup the rule for inbound services, however, it does not give me the option to specify the port number when I choose ssh as the a service, it comes up with port22
[02:44] <iter> /etc/services
[02:44] <mango> robio376: I already specified the ip address for the host
[02:45] <kro> Is it is possible to install Ubuntu using floppies?
[02:45] <iter> kro: yes
[02:45] <robio376> mango: try port 22
[02:45] <kro> iter: are there downloadable images somewhere?
[02:45] <timthelion> can someone with edgy, who has hibernation working, paste their fstab file for me?
[02:45] <mango> robio376: would that be secure
[02:45] <iter> kro: yes but they were old, I think for hoary
[02:45] <timthelion> I can hibernate if I swapon my swap partition.
[02:45] <kro> iter: so nothing for edgy?
[02:45] <iter> kro: also it was a netinstall
[02:46] <kro> iter: netinstall would be fine
[02:46] <iter> kro: so you need net access of course
[02:46] <timthelion> I need to modify /etc/fstab so it can resume
[02:46] <robio376> mango: I generally try to specify a unique port, you can specify what pc's have access.
[02:46] <jeffreyb> flasher:  version 7 is latest for linux... but the latest for windows is 9. there is a version 9 beta out for linux.
[02:46] <iter> kro: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75372
[02:46] <iter> it's breezy
[02:47] <robio376> mango: give me a minute to look up your router on the net and I'll get back to you in a sec
[02:47] <mango> robio376:thanks
[02:47] <flasher> jeffreyb: and how is beta version 9 of flash compared to 7?
[02:47] <suckamc> is there anyway to be able to do root actions in gnome or does everything have to be done by terminal?
[02:48] <iter> quite a few gnome apps will ask for passwd to effect administratior level stuff
[02:49] <iter> alternatively you could launch your gnome app of choice from terminal with sudo <gnomeapp>
[02:49] <jeffreyb> little buggy here but works. http://www.kungfuice.com/index.php/2006/10/18/installing-flash-player-9-beta-on-ubuntu-edgy/
[02:49] <Pelo> suckamc,  you can start the ap you want with  gksu nautilus  ( for exemple) and run your app as root
[02:49] <bimberi> !gksudo
[02:49] <LjL> bimberi: offline
[02:49] <bimberi> :(
[02:49] <w00> anyone have a good repository for java and flash plugins? maybe wine? Thanks!
[02:49] <suckamc> iter: I mean to like change permissions of a file or folder
[02:49] <bimberi> yes, use gksu(do), not sudo
[02:50] <edgarin> lug.org.ve
[02:50] <bimberi> suckamc: gksudo nautilus  (not recommended, but a way to achieve it)
[02:50] <flasher> jeffreyb: thanks@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@!!
[02:50] <kro> iter: thanks.  I think I'm gonna have to use etherboot to install edgy
[02:50] <bimberi> suckamc: use alt-F2 to run it and you haven't even used a terminal ;)
[02:51] <kro> iter: basically, put etherboot on a floppy, get a tftp image and then install.
[02:51] <LjL> w00: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[02:51] <suckamc> bimberi: is there another way I can get to som e root permissions through gnome? it seems silly to have the options ther but then not be able to use them
[02:51] <kro> I was hoping to avoid setting up a tftp server and such though
[02:51] <bimberi> suckamc: which options?
[02:51] <iter> kro: word
[02:52] <bimberi> suckamc: file permissions in nautilus? - only through 'gksudo nautilus'
[02:52] <w00> LjL, thanks i'll try that.
[02:52] <suckamc> well, copying and some system files... have to have root.. but I can't can't in nautilus, setting permissions, opening some folders
[02:52] <mumrah> i am unable to read cds after upgrading to edgy, and ideas?
[02:52] <AsheD> I am using mail-notification in conjunction with Evolution, but it says all emails are new, even after they have been read and replied to, anybody know how to fix this?
[02:52] <iter> suckamc: yeah gksudo nautilus from alt-f2
[02:53] <natu`> Anyone might know some ways to fix this problem: Had a problem with the gnome desktop (things weren't the same way I originally set them up)... deleted all the .gnome, .gnome2, etc files to get a fresh desktop. I logged in fine the first time, it ran smoothly... then loggin in the next day, the settings were changed, and it was running slowly again
[02:54] <arthurb> Hi... does anyone know where to get packages to have the moodbar working in amarok... for ubuntu edgy
[02:54] <jadacyrus> How come you cant have the linux-restricted-modules installed with the NVIDIA Beta 9625 driveR
[02:55] <iter> how come ubuntu doesn't give me a happy ending
[02:56] <CarlFK> how can I tell if a package is installed (command line, not gui)
[02:56] <bimberi> CarlFK: apt-cache policy package
[02:56] <motin> sethk: i found the solution - removed the sources security rows - update - add again - update fetched the latest ones
[02:56] <Keyseir> !ubotu extended 2
[02:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about extended 2 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:57] <Keyseir> !ubotu formatting
[02:57] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[02:57] <Kingsqueak> CarlFK: dpkg -l
[02:57] <bimberi> CarlFK: dpkg -l package   (look for ii at the start of the line)
[02:57] <Keyseir> How do I discern what format I should format a new HD?
[02:58] <LjL> Keyseir, what about using the default (which is ext3) if you don't have a preference
[02:58] <bimberi> Keyseir: sharing it with windows? -> fat32.  otherwise ext3
[02:58] <CarlFK> noo fat!  share the ext3 with win
[02:59] <Keyseir> OK, the first thing that popped up was "extended 2". You guys are suggesting "Extended 3"?
[02:59] <iter> ext3
[02:59] <LjL> !ext3
[02:59] <ubotu> ext3 is the default filesystem on Ubuntu, and the most popular on Linux. You can read/write from Windows to ext3 via http://www.fs-driver.org
[02:59] <Keyseir> Is ext3 short for Extended 3?
[02:59] <iter> yes
[02:59] <regeya> ext3 == third extended filesystem (I think)
[02:59] <iter> omg a windows driver for ext2
[02:59] <iter> talk about scary
[02:59] <regeya> indeed.
[03:00] <LjL> iter, there are a few ones around actually
[03:00] <LjL> that's not the only one
[03:00] <jbroome> i used one for ext3 from sf.net
[03:00] <iter> the very notion of that is terrifying
[03:00] <CarlFK> LjL: i think it is the only one that does r/w as a driver
[03:00] <iter> I like my data uncorrupted, thankyew
[03:01] <CarlFK> iter, then you wouldn't be using win or fat, right ? :)
[03:01] <iter> ntfs is not that bad cmon
[03:01] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  you there
[03:01] <LjL> iter: if you want to share it with linux and like to have data uncorrupted, yes it's bad
[03:01] <iter> LjL: eff that
[03:02] <iter> LjL: that's what smb/cifs is for
[03:02] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  If you're there   sudo ndiswrapper -i ~/drivers/drivername.inf <-- how do I go to my driver it's on my desktop
[03:02] <LjL> iter, i'm sure you realize the issue with most people is dual boot...?
[03:02] <AdamKili> has there been any progress in the USB mass storage device recognition problem?
[03:02] <iter> dual boot is the biggest waste of time I can think of
[03:03] <iter> I reboot my workstation MAYBE once a month
[03:03] <andrewxps> anyone use ubuntu under parallels workstation - and get a terrible screen resolution???
[03:03] <LjL> iter, doesn't mean everybody does the same as you and uses computers the same way you do
[03:03] <iter> just get a hand-me-down dell and use synergy ;)
[03:03] <jadacyrus> synergy is cool
[03:04] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: ~/Desktop/<name>
[03:04] <iter> anyway how other people use computers has very little to do with buggy filesystem drivers that run in kernel mode on win32
[03:04] <jStefan> i'm actually considering this ext2 thing for windows, but i would like to make it read only (for safety)
[03:04] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: I suspect you didn't do this right the first time ;-)
[03:05] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  I used a GUI
[03:05] <LjL> iter, the issue is that if people dual boot and want to share a filesystem, it's going to be either NTFS, FAT32 or ext3 generally. NTFS is unsafe for writing on Linux, FAT32 is a weak filesystem generally speaking, and ext3 as far as i gather is relatively safe to write on Windows
[03:05] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: that'll teach ya
[03:05] <LjL> and filesystems run inside the kernel on Linux as we ll for that matter
[03:05] <RPO> Does anyone know how to make my DVD-RWs work (one won't mount and the other doesn't show up at all!)?
[03:06] <iter> psh I don't feel like arguing anymore, my only point is that I prefer my data nice and uncorrupted
[03:06] <iter> and fat32 has been around for ages
[03:06] <RPO> Does anyone know how to make a Read only system file RW?
[03:06] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  ..
[03:06] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> bcmwl5 is already installed. Use -e to remove it
[03:07] <tw|sT3d> guys were can i find my modem driver?
[03:07] <CarlFK> iter: if you din't want to argue, then you wouldn't say anything :)
[03:07] <suckamc> LjL: I've written to NTFS many times in ubntu with Ntfs-3g with no problems
[03:07] <LjL> !works for me
[03:07] <ubotu> Common Sense: Just because you can, does not mean you should. Think before you do. "Works for me" does not mean it is ok. The latest version of everything is not always useful if you aim for stability.
[03:07] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  lol done
[03:07] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> now what
[03:07] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  reboot?
[03:07] <iter> haha funny you would paste that ljl
[03:08] <iter> when we were just arguing about stable file systems ;)
[03:08] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: well when you did the ifup and ifdown what happened?  does ifconfig -a show wlan0 now?
[03:08] <adrenaline> Ok so I have easy ubuntu but some of the programs do not install any ideas?
[03:08] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: you *must* follow and read that doc
[03:08] <jStefan> i rather be able to pull files, instead of writing
[03:08] <suckamc> Ljl: just wanted to test the driver. and just stating, I've had no problems so far... lots of success
[03:09] <LjL> iter, i completely agree that you should just use ext3 on linux and ntfs on windows. BUT in many cases people simply start from the assumption that they're going to have a shared partition. and FAT32 might have been around for as long as you like, but it's still as weak a filesystem as it can get
[03:09] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> !paste
[03:09] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:09] <suckamc> Ljl: maybe means It might not be a good idea, but if someone won't test it it'll never get tested
[03:09] <robio376> mango: go here http://kbserver.netgear.com/inquira/default.asp?ui_mode=answer&prior_transaction_id=1421&action_code=5&highlight_info=16778031,620,672&turl=http%3A%2F%2Fkbserver.netgear.com%2Fkb_web_files%2Fn101145.asp&answer_id=63824#__highlight
[03:09] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  ... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30578/
[03:09] <ksyms> I am using amule 2.1.3, I am connected with HighID and it's not downloading anything, any idea?
[03:09] <iter> LjL: what is "weak" compared to a non-ms kernel mode driver from the oss world?
[03:10] <jStefan> inherently weak
[03:10] <LjL> iter: err hold on a second, what is the *Linux* ext3 driver if you a non-ms kernel mode driver from the oss world....:?
[03:10] <iter> LjL: there's tons of good code in linux but as far as writing stuff for windows ?!?!
[03:10] <adrenaline> i am trying to install libdvdcss via easy ubuntu but it won't install all though other stuff has any ideas?
[03:10] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  .. what now lol
[03:11] <iter> LjL: the difference being of course that there is adequate documentation for the linux kernel vs the windows kernel
[03:11] <tw|sT3d> guys, does ubuntu supoorts a US robotics modem???
[03:11] <bobby> us robotic modems are nearly always hardware modems (not win modems)
[03:11] <jStefan> i think the best solution is to be able to READ from the other OS and write locally, without the need of shared partitions. Linux can already read NTFS natively, and now we can make windows read ext2.
[03:12] <bobby> thus it probably suhould
[03:12] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: try this   'ndiswrapper-1.8'    does that command do anything for you?
[03:12] <iter> jStefan: agree
[03:12] <LjL> jStefan: that's a compromise that will work in many cases
[03:12] <CarlFK> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org - who is in charge of that site?  the box is small, and "feeback" is 404
[03:12] <tw|sT3d> bobby: so what does it means? in sorry for being a noob
[03:12] <adrenaline> can anybody hear me lol?
[03:12] <jStefan> CarlFK, Seveas
[03:13] <CarlFK> adrenaline: loud and clear
[03:13] <LjL> CarlFK, the guy who's in charge knows about the textbox.
[03:13] <bruenig> !libdvdcss
[03:13] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:13] <adrenaline> good it is working
[03:13] <LjL> now fixing it is another *entirely* different issue, but he knows >:
[03:13] <adrenaline> anybody use easy ubuntu?
[03:13] <LjL> !easyubuntu
[03:13] <jStefan> !easyubuntu | adrenaline
[03:13] <ubotu> easyubuntu is easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/  -  For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[03:13] <ubotu> adrenaline: easyubuntu is easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/  -  For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[03:13] <bruenig> !libdvdcss | adrenaline
[03:13] <ubotu> adrenaline: For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[03:13] <FuriousGeorge> hey all.  i upgraded my nvidia driver to 9629 and i got beryl working.  then i restarted my computer and i got an API mismatch problem and X wont load
[03:14] <FuriousGeorge> it says the kernel module is 8762 while the x module is 9629
[03:14] <iter> FuriousGeorge: upgrade restricted modules to match kernel
[03:14] <adrenaline> ubotu It won't install
[03:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about It won't install - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:14] <adrenaline> I know where it is
[03:14] <tw|sT3d> bobby: can i still use my US robotics modem??
[03:14] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> no kingsqueak lol
[03:14] <LjL> !bot | adrenaline
[03:14] <ubotu> adrenaline: I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl  -  Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[03:14] <squidink> I've just installed edgy, all smooth, but the mouse selection behaviour in gnome-terminal now no longer does copy-on-select. Seems to still work for other apps, and middle-click-to-paste still works in the terminal. Any ideas?
[03:14] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  brb in 10 mins
[03:14] <c_lisp> man I always have issue with veiwing videos on webpages the voices and video not being sync is there a single solution?
[03:14] <FuriousGeorge> iter: i come from gentoo..  this is new to me, could you elaborate a bit
[03:14] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: type  ndiswrapper<tab<tab>  does it show you anything other than plain 'ndiswrapper' ?
[03:14] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: meaning hit the tab key twice
[03:15] <jStefan> LjL, how many ext2 projects on windows do you know of? i found another on sf.net
[03:15] <adrenaline> Is anybody watching movies or playing mp3's in ubuntu edgy?
[03:15] <FuriousGeorge> iter: the nvidia-glx package apt-get wants is the 8xxx build
[03:15] <tw|sT3d> guys kindly help me connecting to the intenet using my US robotics modem
[03:15] <Pelo> adrenaline, yes
[03:15] <LjL> jStefan, i don't really know how many separate projects there are, but just google "ext2 windows"
[03:15] <jStefan> !info nvidia-glx edgy
[03:15] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8776+2.6.17.6-1 (edgy), package size 3970 kB, installed size 12312 kB
[03:16] <RPO> the DVD i used to load edgy doesn't work in edgy!
[03:16] <adrenaline> Pelo:  I have dowloaded easyubuntu and ti won't install libdvdcss
[03:16] <jadacyrus> Do you need the linux-restricted-modules isntalled to get peripherals such as webcams working?
[03:16] <adrenaline> Pelo: thanks
[03:16] <jStefan> LjL, i was hoping you had a good inventory with reviews :P
[03:16] <iter> FuriousGeorge: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname-r`
[03:16] <iter> FuriousGeorge: oh crud typo
[03:16] <iter> FuriousGeorge: apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[03:17] <squidink> in fact copy from gnome-terminal seems to be broken altogether.
[03:17] <LjL> jStefan, eh nope. only one i even really used is explore2fs
[03:17] <squidink> seems to be back after a restart.
[03:18] <FuriousGeorge> iter: cant find linux-restricted-modules-uname -r
[03:18] <RPO> the DVD burner used to load edgy doesn't work in edgy!
[03:18] <iter> FuriousGeorge: gotta put those ` ` in
[03:18] <iter> FuriousGeorge: or else just run uname -r and type that in
[03:18] <LGKeiz-Windows> Kingsqueak gimmie 10 minutes
[03:18] <Kingsqueak> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: do this    'sudo apt-cache search ndis | grep ^ndis'
[03:19] <jstew> Is there a way I can get apt to use the packages in my /var/cache/apt/archive dir instead of downloading the debs again?
[03:19] <jstew> I copied the debs off of another machine
[03:20] <KillerDemon> http://killerdemon.ath.cx/Nummer10.wma  <- The oldschool terrorrist are back!!
[03:20] <LjL> jstew, it did it without a fuss for me. you'll have to set the right permissions though perhaps
[03:20] <FuriousGeorge> iter: its already the latest version, but nvidia-glx is the 8XXX series module
[03:21] <jadacyrus> Do you need the linux-restricted-modules isntalled to get peripherals such as webcams working?
[03:21] <bimberi> jstew: it should use them automatically.  look for messages like "need to get 2MB/100MB" when you run a commandwhich means you already have 98MB downloaded
[03:21] <SurfnKid> does anyone know how to change the MAC address on a WIFI card
[03:21] <SurfnKid> in ubuntu?
[03:21] <iter> FuriousGeorge: ah gotta add a repo and update nvidia-glx
[03:21] <SurfnKid> would be kind to help me
[03:22] <RPO> anyone know how to mount a CD in Ubuntu?
[03:22] <jstew> yeah, I have the packages but it always says I have to download all of them
[03:22] <c_lisp> anybody had trouble with azureus
[03:22] <c_lisp> torrent
[03:22] <LjL> !info macchanger | SurfnKid
[03:22] <FuriousGeorge> iter: how do i update nvidia-glx in kubuntu.  im pretty sure thats what i need
[03:22] <ubotu> macchanger: utility for manipulating the MAC address of network interfaces. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.5.0-1 (edgy), package size 85 kB, installed size 320 kB
[03:22] <jstew> I notice a pkgcache.bin in the parent dir. Looks like a dbm file
[03:22] <mango> robio376: It is working , thanks a lot, I am very happy:). Your help is much appreciated
[03:22] <SurfnKid> LjL, you rock
[03:22] <SurfnKid> thx
[03:22] <iter> FuriousGeorge: add deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main-edgy
[03:22] <bimberi> jstew: and they're in /var/cache/apt/archives.  package.bin isn't relevant
[03:22] <jstew> could it be that the packages need to be in that file also?
[03:22] <jstew> Ok
[03:23] <iter> FuriousGeorge: to /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:23] <jStefan> LjL, wouldn't an open source ext2 driver from sf.net be preferred over the one at fs-driver.org ?
[03:23] <bimberi> jstew: perhaps there are more recent versions
[03:23] <robio376> mango: no prob glad to be of some help!
[03:23] <iter> FuriousGeorge: then apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[03:23] <jstew> yeah, the files are in /var/cache/apt/archives. I'll check the perms
[03:23] <iter> FuriousGeorge: see if that updates nvidia-glx
[03:23] <iter> FuriousGeorge: otherwise I have another repo in my sources.list to ttry
[03:24] <LjL> jStefan, i didn't write the bot factoid, and not having done any real test, i'll just trust the judgment of whoever wrote the factoid as to which is the most reliable
[03:24] <Axsuul> anyone know if Network Manager for ubuntu is bugged or something,  i click on the tray icon and the only options are: Enable Networking, Connection INformation, and About, theres nothing about wireless networking, etc
[03:24] <RPO> this Linux thing seems kinda crappy -- kinda like Windows 3.1 -- maybe I should go back to Windows
[03:24] <jStefan> LjL, that's where i was going, a revision of the factoid might be nice, but that would require further discussion, involving more people
[03:25] <adrenaline> Pelo it is downloading thanks for the tip
[03:25] <tw|sT3d> elow
[03:25] <tw|sT3d> any here who can help me out
[03:26] <FuriousGeorge> iter: i added the repo, saw that it resolved when i updated and upgraded, but still the 8776 build
[03:26] <iter> FuriousGeorge: ok try deb http://gandalfn.club.fr/ubuntu edgy .
[03:26] <sethk> RPO, use whatever works better for you.
[03:26] <mango> robio376: only one more problem, can not specify the port number
[03:26] <FuriousGeorge> iter: did i mention this was working prior to my last reboot
[03:26] <iter> FuriousGeorge: it has a . at the end too
[03:26] <FuriousGeorge> iter: and im amd64
[03:26] <irish_rebel> hi guys?
[03:27] <iter> FuriousGeorge: argh check beryl wiki
[03:27] <iter> FuriousGeorge: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/
[03:27] <robio376> mango: on the router?
[03:27] <sethk> Axsuul, possibly it didn't detect your wireless hardware
[03:27] <mango> robio376: yes
[03:28] <CarlFK> how can I find what packages I have installed that depend on liblua50-dev ?
[03:28] <robio376> mango: hang on a sec
[03:28] <LjL> CarlFK: try removing it, and you'll see ;-)
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[03:28] <c_lisp> :/
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[03:28] <jrib> !ops
[03:28] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[03:28] <sethk> wonderful, just what the night needed
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[03:28] <c_lisp> k
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[03:29] <jadacyrus> OH NOES!! HAX0RS
[03:29] <LjL> /mode #ubuntu +R
[03:29] <c_lisp> lol
[03:29] <Axsuul> how would i restart my network interfaces
[03:29] <LjL> NOTICE - We are having some technical difficulties. Please don't worry, and try to avoid unnecessary channel traffic. Thank you!
[03:29] <sethk> Axsuul, at the command line, or through the dialogs?
[03:29] <c_lisp> Axsuul ifconfig interface down
[03:29] <Axsuul> ya, terminal
[03:29] <robio376> mango: on your router go to  Security > Services > Add Custom Service
[03:29] <sethk> Axsuul, ifconfig eth0 down         ifconfig eth0 up           for example with eth0
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[03:30] <Axsuul> thanks
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[03:30] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> hey
[03:30] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> okay
[03:30] <sethk> LjL, most of the traffic seems to be your message.  :)
[03:30] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> it works again
[03:30] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> lol
[03:30] <Axsuul> so did u guys vote today
[03:30] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> o_o
[03:30] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  you there
[03:31] <sethk> Axsuul, no, if you vote, they can call you for jury duty
[03:31] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  Im back
[03:31] <LjL> sethk, no wonder, i had a 17 seconds lag for some reason
[03:31] <iter> Axsuul: also /etc/init.d/networking restart
[03:31] <sethk> LjL,  :)
[03:31] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  What did you want me to do again:?
[03:31] <c_lisp> :)
[03:31] <adrenaline> pelo this automatix2 is great thanks
[03:31] <LjL> !automatix
[03:31] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[03:31] <qhjobw> NAZIS
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[03:31] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> kline!
[03:31] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> D:
[03:32] <sethk> LjL, he's back.
[03:32] <MugginsM> I'm assuming that looked different on his machine
[03:32] <iter> umm, /kb ?
[03:32] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak:  you there?
[03:32] <sethk> MugginsM, who knows?  it's porn spam
[03:32] <adrenaline> wtf!!
[03:32] <eric_pee> Hey guys, I accidentally screwed up my sources.list - can someone pastebin me one?
[03:32] <tw|sT3d> help me guys///
[03:32] <robio376> mango: here just follow the instuction here  http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n101145.asp#FR114PAnchor
[03:32] <Zibby> that was cute
[03:33] <mango>  robio376: yes, now do I choose tcp or udp as a protocol
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[03:34] <robio376> mango: tcp
[03:34] <aios> my fan is running non-stop, how can i fix this?
[03:35] <mango> robio376: thanks man.
[03:35] <robio376> mango: not a problem
[03:35] <RPO> I'm unable to mount a CD
[03:36] <iter> is all that octal gibberish in cyrillic or what
[03:36] <mango> want to ask a silly question please. I recieved many tabs stating nazi in them what was that about? were they refered to me
[03:36] <sethk> aios, did you find the lmsensors module?
[03:37] <dooglus> mango: probably private messages.  I didn't see them.
[03:37] <mist_0> Hi, im trying to install alsa sound drivers for my sound card, but when i call "./configure --with-cards=emu10k1 --with-sequencer=yes" I get an error saying unsupported soundcard emu10k1
[03:37] <sethk> aios, that's the module that controls fan speed, cpu freq stepdown, etc.
[03:37] <robio376> no that was just some idiot mango
[03:37] <LjL> mango, no. it was a spammer.
[03:37] <sethk> mango, everybody got them, until the ops bounced the guy
[03:37] <iter> just when you though efnet was the last bastion of the nazi spammer
[03:37] <sethk> mango, then he came back again.  so he was shooting at everybody, not just you.
[03:37] <aios> sethk: i found the webpage and read about it, but i got the impression it was used to monitor it, not change the settings
[03:38] <sethk> aios, used for both, I believe.
[03:38] <sethk> aios, you monitor and change on the same bus, and that's the driver for the bus.
[03:38] <aios> sethk: i'll try to apt-get it
[03:38] <dooglus> mango: not everyone got them - I didn't
[03:38] <mango> sethk: thanks
[03:38] <n0dl|laptop> i get this error when i sudo apt-get update  ttp://pastebin.com/819449
[03:38] <sethk> aios, do you have the intel ICH chipset, by the way?
[03:38] <n0dl|laptop> i get this error when i sudo apt-get update  http://pastebin.com/819449
[03:38] <robio376> tw|sT3d: what's your problem?
[03:38] <knix> Is there any way to lower the level of the gnome-panel so its dropshadow isn't over maximized windwos?
[03:38] <aios> sethk: no, AMD turion 64
[03:38] <sagarp> whenever i click a ".desktop" file, ubuntu gives me errors and says it cant open it..the same goes for image files, even after i add a file type association...is this a gnome-vfs problem ors omething??
[03:39] <sethk> n0dl|laptop, I get that frequently when sites are down or busy.  I try again and usually the download completes
[03:39] <sethk> aios, ok, there's a bug I know about, for fan speed, but only for the intel chipset.
[03:39] <n0dl|laptop> sethk: its been happening all day
[03:39] <sethk> n0dl|laptop, consistently?  does it ever work for those files?  or is it different files
[03:39] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Hey.
[03:40] <sethk> n0dl|laptop, in other words, might it just be heavy traffic, or are there particular files that you can never download?
[03:40] <dooglus> n0dl|laptop: what if you visit http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz in a web browser?  can you see it OK then?
[03:40] <mist_0> Hi, im trying to install alsa sound drivers for my sound card, but when i call "./configure --with-cards=emu10k1 --with-sequencer=yes" I get an error saying unsupported soundcard emu10k1
[03:40] <n0dl|laptop> dooglus: yes i can
[03:40] <n0dl|laptop> sethk: its always that particular file
[03:41] <dooglus> n0dl|laptop: try running   "sudo rm -f /var/lib/apt/lists/*" and then trying again
[03:41] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> lol
[03:41] <boxahy> when installing vmware server i get. What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[03:41] <boxahy> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]  /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15.27-386/include
[03:41] <boxahy> The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.15.27-386/include" is not an existing
[03:41] <boxahy> directory.
[03:41] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Hey
[03:41] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak you there?
[03:41] <kronoman> hello
[03:42] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> >.>
[03:42] <LjL> boxahy: you do need the linux headers for installing vmware server, i think. or you could use the player if you preferred to avoid that
[03:42] <LjL> !vmware-player
[03:42] <ubotu> vmware-player: Free virtual machine player from VMware. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.0.2-2 (edgy), package size 11602 kB, installed size 31336 kB (Only available for i386 amd64)
[03:42] <piedoggie> what's best way to make a simple substitution across multiple files?
[03:43] <dooglus> piedoggie: sed -i s/old/new *
[03:43] <n0dl|laptop> dooglus:
[03:43] <n0dl|laptop> http://pastebin.com/819457
[03:43] <dooglus> piedoggie: sorry...   sed -i 's/old/new/g' *
[03:43] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> >.>
[03:44] <piedoggie> I need to do that on specific files in a hierarchy.  A selective fine is probably the best solution combined with your sed example
[03:44] <thor> dooglus: now that was impressive. When I grow up I want to learn bash scripting too <smile>
[03:44] <adam_> good evenin
[03:45] <boxahy> anyone else having problems with the wine wget servers?
[03:45] <dooglus> thor: that's not bash scripting - that's just sed
[03:45] <boxahy> automatix and the one on the wiki are timing out
[03:45] <boxahy> at 99%
[03:45] <n0dl|laptop> thor: there are sed scripts
[03:45] <rBlong2us> hi
[03:45] <thor> dooglus: yeah...I have always found that stuff confusing. Could master machine code...but not that
[03:45] <n0dl|laptop> are there any other apt files that i can delete>
[03:45] <n0dl|laptop> ?
[03:46] <rBlong2us> for the life of me, my LCD screen is maddly flickering
[03:46] <dooglus> piedoggie: find . -type f -name '*.txt' -o -name '*.rtf' | while read x; do sed -i 's/old/new/g' "$x"; done
[03:46] <thor> showoff
[03:46] <rBlong2us> I need to fix this... it doesn't flicker with other Distros, but I wanna have Ubuntu
[03:46] <sethk> looks like the republicans are going to hold on by maybe two or three seats.
[03:46] <rBlong2us> please...
[03:47] <dooglus> n0dl|laptop: you still get the same error after running that 'sudo rm' command?
[03:47] <robio376> rBlong2us: sounds like your refresh rate is wrong
[03:47] <boxahy> !wine
[03:47] <n0dl|laptop> dooglus: yes
[03:47] <makkk> can someone help me purge my configs or settings or something? whenever i log into gnome, X crashes after a few seconds. however, i've created a new user and i can log in with this new user just fine. what can i do?
[03:47] <rBlong2us> robio376: I have a sis driver and I've tried all types of combinations
[03:47] <rBlong2us> this is insane
[03:48] <rBlong2us> refresh rate should be ok
[03:48] <aios> sethk: the documentation for ls-sensors is .. overwhelming for a newb like me
[03:48] <robio376> how about your hsync and Vsync?
[03:48] <Ryugi> ubuntu is ta greatest
[03:49] <dooglus> n0dl|laptop: what's the corresponding line in sources.list say?  is it "deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper-security universe" ?
[03:49] <Ryugi> so i guess ubuntu is up there with red hat enterprise linux
[03:49] <mist_0> can anyone help me figure out how to set up my alsa sound card drivers?  I have the drivers and everything and a help page telling me how to do stuff, but one part of it fails, saying "unsupported device"
[03:49] <abnerian> Hey, I just did a fresh install of Madwifi. Is Network Manager necessary?
[03:49] <rBlong2us> bye the way I like better ubuntu than kubuntu
[03:49] <sethk> aios, it isn't great.  got a url for it?  I"ll try to find the fan info.
[03:49] <LjL> !offtopic | Ryugi
[03:49] <abnerian> Or is Command Line alright?
[03:49] <sethk> abnerian, command line is fine, if you don't need the gui
[03:49] <aios> sethk: http://www.lm-sensors.org/wiki/Documentation
[03:49] <rBlong2us> kubuntu had a lot of annoying pop ups for just about anything that fill the screen unneceraly
[03:49] <abnerian> Alright.
[03:49] <abnerian> Thank ya.
[03:50] <sethk> aios, ok, I'm also helping a couple of paying customers, so I'll be in and out and I can't promise.  but I'll try to find it.
[03:50] <aios> sethk: im in man fancontrol, but i can't use anything in there
[03:50] <aios> sethk: thanks, i really appreciate
[03:50] <sethk> aios, k
[03:50] <n0dl|laptop> dooglus: yes
[03:50] <Ryugi> what is the ubuntu off topic channel
[03:51] <LjL> Ryugi: #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:51] <dooglus> n0dl|laptop: can you paste the whole output from a "sudo apt-get update" please?
[03:51] <boxahy> erm im installing vmware player in automatix and it just keeps on kinda looping the dhcp setup stuff
[03:51] <rBlong2us> what is the ubuntu installer?
[03:51] <rBlong2us> I don't see it anywhere
[03:51] <LjL> !automatix | boxahy
[03:52] <thor> rBlong2us: you boot off the live cd and install is an icon on the desktop
[03:52] <n0dl|laptop> dooglus: http://pastebin.com/819463
[03:52] <LjL> boxahy: we don't support automatix. try the #automatix channel, or remove automatix and try installing vmware player normally
[03:52] <daviddixon> I am new to ubuntu...how do I install java and mozilla mplayer using the package manager
[03:52] <dooglus> n0dl|laptop: thanks
[03:52] <dredhammer> how can you install deb packages that rely on one another in a bulk install?
[03:52] <boxahy> !vmware
[03:53] <thor> daviddixon: just choose sun-java and mplayer-plugin and then 'apply'
[03:53] <dredhammer> if synaptic can do it there must be a manual way
[03:53] <n0dl|laptop> dooglus: np
[03:53] <makkk> can someone tell me how to purge my gnome settings?
[03:53] <thor> dredhammer: dpkg -i pkgname should do it
[03:54] <Lathiat> makkk: well you can remove the .gnome2 directory perhaps
[03:54] <Lathiat> makkk: (rather than remove it best 'rename' it to something else
[03:54] <Lathiat> makkk: thatl get "alot" of them
[03:54] <dredhammer> ok thanks
[03:54] <sethk> makkk, in your home directory, there is a .gnome-something (.gnome2, I think) subdirectory.  if you remove it, it will revert to what you saw the first time you ran it
[03:54] <sethk> makkk, but that's rather draconian.
[03:54] <makkk> Lathiat. i've tried removing it all together. there still seems to be a problem
[03:54] <thor> daviddixon: the full names are sun-java5-bin and mozilla-mplayer
[03:55] <sethk> makkk, specifically?
[03:55] <nigro> hello
[03:55] <Max222-sweden> Hey all
[03:55] <dummyuno> hello there, I've updated to Edgy and that broke X here, I'm now back and running using the vesa driver, but I'd like to recover the little 3D accel my hardware supports, any help
[03:55] <makkk> sethk, i've tried removing so many directories... i log into gnome, it starts for a few seconds, the X crashes. i created a new user, no problems at all
[03:56] <NEWBIE--> how to install ubuntu using a partition, i have window2000 currently
[03:56] <makkk> sethk, i removed .gconf, .gnome, .gnome2,
[03:56] <tw|sT3d> guys why cant i DL the scanModem.gz file
[03:56] <makkk> you name it
[03:56] <sethk> makkk, there are some application specific directories in your home also
[03:56] <tw|sT3d> any one has a copy???
[03:56] <dcraven> makkk, you need to move/delete gconf etc with GNOME not running.
[03:56] <Max222-sweden> Anyone here have good idea of how to get openvpn to work in bridge mode if i have an external router in the base network? I have a a tun up and running but i can only access the machine that is the vpn-server
[03:56] <NEWBIE--> how to install ubuntu using a partition, i have window2000 currently -- all other partitions are NTFS
[03:56] <LjL> NEWBIE--, the installer will give you an option for shrinking your Windows partition and making one for Ubuntu
[03:56] <sethk> makkk, are any programs automatically starting up when you run gnome?  if you can see anything on the screen before it dies.
[03:56] <dummyuno> NEWBIE, defrag your windows first, then run the live CD and click install
[03:56] <makkk> dcraven, i remove it while logged into my other account
[03:56] <sethk> makkk, also, check your X log, and your system logs
[03:56] <rBlong2us> hi what's the Ubuntu installer? I don't see it on the menus
[03:56] <dooglus> n0dl|laptop: that's weird.  I don't know why that's happening.
[03:56] <NEWBIE--> i dont have CD-drive now
[03:56] <sethk> makkk, they are both in /var/log.  look in /var/log/Xorg.... and /var/log/messages and /var/log/syslog
[03:57] <dooglus> n0dl|laptop: what if you do this, to download it manually?
[03:57] <dooglus> n0dl|laptop: sudo bash -c "wget -O- http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz | gunzip > /var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper-security_universe_binary-i386_Packages"
[03:57] <makkk> sethk, some things start to show up.
[03:57] <boxahy> wow automatix is now screwed up officially
[03:57] <sethk> makkk, do you know what programs?
[03:57] <NEWBIE--> how to install ubuntu using a partition, i have window2000 currently -- all other partitions are NTFS
[03:57] <sethk> boxahy, it wasn't, before?
[03:57] <boxahy> it always tries to config vmware player
[03:57] <LjL> boxahy: ?
[03:57] <dcraven> makkk, you could start with a new /home/user directory and move things over one by one until you get the problem I suppose.
[03:57] <boxahy> it worked before sethk
[03:57] <boxahy> lol
[03:57] <sethk> NEWBIE--, you just tell it to use the partition.
[03:57] <LjL> NEWBIE--, please stop repeating. you've already been answered - twice
[03:57] <rsteele> sup?
[03:57] <Max222-sweden> Anyone that has OPENVPN working with linux and windows?
[03:57] <sethk> boxahy, it has a bad rep, as I'm sure you kow.
[03:58] <tw|sT3d> HELP
[03:58] <makkk> dcraven... yeah, i was hoping i wouldnt have to do that. i have quite a bit installed and tweaked. tha'ts why i upgraded intead of reinstalled. but... i'll have to do what i have to do.
[03:58] <daviddixon> not finding either one. which repository do i need to enable?
[03:58] <LjL> tw|sT3d: yes, people generally come to this channel to ask for help. what's your question?
[03:58] <thor> daviddixon: not sure...I have them all enabled <smile>
[03:59] <tw|sT3d> im using a US robotics modem.. does ubuntu support this type of modem?
[03:59] <Keyseir> I set the graphical "disk manager" to format my new 200 GB external HD. It's still been going after lik 30 minutes. How long should this take?
[03:59] <dcraven> makkk, well most of your settings will clearly be unrelated, right. You can cp -a those directories/files over right away.
[03:59] <tw|sT3d> coz im trying 2 make a dial up connection
[03:59] <makkk> dcraven, sethk, i'm sorry i forgot to mention, things work ok if i fun dpkg -reconfigure xserver-xorg and dont have my second monitor attached. I really want my second monitor attached. and it works just fine with the new user
[03:59] <sethk> Keyseir, possibly.  is it usb?  if so, if it's slow speed usb, that could well be normal
[03:59] <rBlong2us> what graphical installer is it used for Ubuntu?
[04:00] <rBlong2us> what do I have to install?
[04:00] <rBlong2us> thanks
[04:00] <sethk> makkk, some borked program must be opening a window on the second screen
[04:00] <Keyseir> sethk, Yes it's usb. It's a usb2 drive but I think I only have usb1 on the machine. Is there a way to tell if it's stalled or working normally?
[04:00] <dummyuno> rBlong2us: you using the liveCD?
[04:00] <dcraven> makkk, it has to be something in your home dir afaik if one user is fine, and another is not.
[04:00] <LjL> tw|sT3d: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DialupModemHowto
[04:00] <sethk> Keyseir, you can use strace -p to get a system call trace of the program.
[04:00] <tw|sT3d> yeah i read that
[04:00] <daviddixon> getting an error on universe when running update
[04:00] <makkk> dcraven, i meant if i run 'dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[04:00] <tw|sT3d> LjL: but the prob is i cant DL the scanModem.gz
[04:01] <dummyuno> anyone can tell the right driver for an ATI Rage Mobility P/M AGP 2x in a laptop?
[04:01] <makkk> dcraven, i'd have to 'mv' them since i dont think i have enough room to have two copies of everything
[04:01] <dooglus> Keyseir: USB1.1 writes about 1Mb per second.  so 200GB would take around 200,000 seconds, or about 55 hours.  can that be right?
[04:01] <natu`> Having a problem keeping my settings the same for each time I login. The first time it works fine (lag-free) after a fresh wipe of the GNOME desktop, then the next time I log in, the settings are changed and it's sluggish. Any suggestions? Or would using KDE work more efficiently?
[04:01] <rBlong2us> dummyuno: no, I've already installed it
[04:01] <LjL> tw|sT3d, download it from another machine
[04:01] <Max222-sweden> Do anyone know how i can configure the OPENVPN server to bridge connection if it only has 1 networkcard and is in a network with an External DHCP-server?
[04:01] <Keyseir> 55 hours, crap
[04:01] <sethk> allen's holding on in virginia, and stell is holding on in maryland.  too eraly to tell for maryland, though.
[04:01] <tw|sT3d> machine?? im using windows right now
[04:01] <makkk> sethk, i'll look for a culprit. is there any way to know what is trying to go to the second screen?
[04:02] <sethk> Keyseir, 55 hours?
[04:02] <dooglus> Keyseir: I don't suppose a format has to write to every piece of the disk - I thought it just marked the space as empty.
[04:02] <dcraven> makkk, sounds like you're pretty tight for space eh? :)
[04:02] <sethk> dooglus, it isn't really a format
[04:02] <dooglus> Keyseir: it would take 55 hours to fill the disk up using 'slow' usb
[04:02] <Keyseir> sethk, I was responding to what dooglus said
[04:02] <tw|sT3d> LjL: machine?? im using windows right now
[04:02] <sethk> dooglus, but it does writes scattered throughout the volume
[04:02] <sethk> Keyseir, ok
[04:02] <boxahy> GAH. now everytime i apt-get vmware player takes over
[04:02] <sethk> dooglus, usb 1 can be very very very slow
[04:02] <LjL> tw|sT3d: then download it from windows
[04:02] <makkk> dcraven, yes. well, not too tight, but above 50%, so i cant make two copies
[04:02] <piedoggie> just love windows.  If it wasn't for speech recognition,...
[04:02] <sethk> dooglus, but you are write, it doesn't write over the entire partition.
[04:02] <Keyseir> sethk, How to I figure out what a program is called to do an strace? I'm using the "Disks Manager" from the graphical System menu
[04:03] <dooglus> sethk: I get almost exactly 1MB/s whether I use windows or linux with my USB1.1 external disk
[04:03] <tw|sT3d> LjL: im trying to but its forbiden 403
[04:03] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak you there yet
[04:03] <dooglus> sethk: read and write, both the same speed
[04:03] <dummyuno> rBlong2us: then you want to install something else, right? if so, then maybe synaptics or add/remove under applications is your answer
[04:03] <sethk> dooglus, that's about right.  that's about 35 times slower than a typical ide
[04:03] <piedoggie> as I was saying, before Firefox crashed, I was trying the find expression
[04:03] <boxahy> well my install is fscked up
[04:04] <boxahy> i cant apt-get
[04:04] <dooglus> Keyseir: the process will probably have "mkfs" in its name I think.  try a "ps -ef | grep mkfs"
[04:04] <boxahy> or else vmware-player takes over
[04:04] <natu`> Anyone happen to catch the problem I posted?
[04:04] <Mantice> does beryl run on the latest kernal yet ?
[04:04] <Vaske_Car> emule on Ubuntu? What is called?
[04:04] <dooglus> Vaske_Car: amule
[04:04] <Vaske_Car> tx
[04:04] <sethk> dooglus, that shows that the interface is the bottleneck, not the device, because, if it were anything in the device, write would be taking longer.
[04:04] <LjL> tw|sT3d: true, it appears to be down.
[04:04] <thor> daviddixon: sorry, I tried to find the actual repos, but no luck.
[04:05] <dooglus> sethk: the device supports USB2 and firewire too, both of which make it about 10 times faster.
[04:05] <tw|sT3d> LjL: oic.. maybe i try to DL it later or tom.
[04:05] <boxahy> Selecting previously deselected package linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386.
[04:05] <boxahy> Unpacking linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386 (from .../linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386_2.6.15-27.48_i386.deb) ...
[04:05] <boxahy> Setting up vmware-player (1.0.1-4) ...
[04:05] <boxahy> Now configuring VMware Player.  (This may take some time...)
[04:05] <boxahy> Configuring a bridged network for vmnet0.
[04:05] <Keyseir> root      6453  6452  0 21:25 pts/0    00:00:13 /sbin/mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1
[04:05] <LjL> !paste | boxh
[04:05] <ubotu> boxh: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:05] <tw|sT3d> LjL: im getting prustrated about this =((
[04:05] <Keyseir> That looks like what I may be looking for
[04:05] <LjL> !paste | boxahy
[04:05] <boxahy> it takes over EVERYTHING
[04:05] <ubotu> boxahy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:05] <qc__> hrm....
[04:05] <Mantice> does beryl run on the latest kernal yet ?
[04:05] <qc__> does micromedia flash work on ubuntu 64?
[04:05] <Keyseir> sethk, dooglus, how do I check to see if that process is working properly now that I know what it is?
[04:05] <LjL> tw|sT3d: if it's a software modem, it won't necessarily be easy to be made to work
[04:06] <dooglus> Keyseir: "sudo strace -p pid" where pid is the process number
[04:06] <LordTureis> qc__: yes, macromedia flash is now "Adobe Flash"
[04:06] <dooglus> Keyseir: the process numbr is the number in column 2 when you "ps -ef"
[04:06] <sethk> Keyseir, if the disk has an activity light, and it's flashing, it's very likely working.  strace will show the system calls.  if strace just sits there not spitting anything out, that's bad
[04:06] <LjL> boxahy: can you remove it with a "dpkg -r vmware-player"?
[04:06] <rBlong2us> the thing is that I don't see synaptic on the menus
[04:06] <sethk> Keyseir, you should see ioctl calls frequently.
[04:06] <qc__> LordTureis,  well - i downloaded and installed flash from ubuntuguide site... and i can load certan flash pages, but others just crash
[04:06] <dummyuno> folks anyone can give a tip for ati driver in edgy?
[04:06] <LjL> rBlong2us, System / Administration
[04:06] <sethk> rBlong2us, so what?  run it from a command line, or with alt-f2
[04:07] <tw|sT3d> LjL: what the diff. bet software modem from hardware modem? in a newbie point of view?
[04:07] <LordTureis> qc: while version 7 is available through synaptic, you can download a beta of version 9 from Adobe Labs: labs.adobe.com/
[04:07] <kronoman> question : in ubuntu 6.06 what sound system by default is used ? alsa ? esd ? oss ?
[04:07] <Mantice> Man the Gaim sounds are low quality.
[04:07] <Keyseir> sethk, how do I watch for ioctl calls?
[04:07] <dummyuno> qc__: you should be reporting that to Adobe over at http://labs.adobe.com
[04:07] <dooglus> kronoman: esd
[04:07] <daviddixon> anyone else having a problem updating universe?
[04:07] <kronoman> thanks
[04:07] <LjL> tw|sT3d, the page explains that shortly in the second paragraph.
[04:07] <thor> Mantice: the gaim sounds for windows are much better...I copied them to linux
[04:07] <dummyuno> kronoman: from what I can tell here is alsa
[04:07] <Mantice> Strange huh.
[04:08] <dooglus> tw|sT3d: briefly, hardware modems work in linux, software modems don't...
[04:08] <kronoman> should be a combination of alsa + esd ?
[04:08] <dummyuno> me talking from what I see in my laptop
[04:08] <Mantice> My download rate is more constant in linux.
[04:08] <rBlong2us> ok got synaptics
[04:08] <LordTureis> qc: while it is a _BETA_, it is pretty stable.        [04:08] <Keyseir> dooglus, sethk, that strace -p $pid is certainly spitting out a lot of data  continuously
[04:08] <Boelcke> Anyone mind helping me with an odd DHCP question?
[04:09] <Keyseir> !ubotu strace
[04:09] <ubotu> strace: A system call tracer. In component main, is standard. Version 4.5.14-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 92 kB, installed size 248 kB (Only available for alpha amd64 arm armeb hppa i386 ia64 m68k mips mipsel powerpc ppc64 s390 s390x sh sparc)
[04:09] <Juan> anyone knows of a mp3 tagging program that works with freedb2?
[04:09] <Vaske_Car> Is there alos Limrwire for Ubuntu?
[04:09] <Mantice> Any one know if beryl works in the new kernal update ?
[04:09] <sethk> Keyseir, that's what you should be seeing.
[04:09] <Vaske_Car> Limewire*
[04:09] <LjL> !limewire | Vaske_Car
[04:09] <hockyhair> how do i change the setting in gnome so i can read view jap text alright in win it's regional settings
[04:09] <ubotu> Vaske_Car: limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[04:09] <Keyseir> sethk, cool
[04:09] <fildo> hey anyone here have a sucessful scsci or raid setup on ubuntu
[04:09] <tw|sT3d> if im using a US robotics modem connected via PCI?? and i buy my comp after 2000?? so im using a software modem??
[04:09] <LjL> LordTureis: Ubuntu doesn't get new versions of packages once it's released
[04:09] <natu`> Having a problem keeping my settings the same for each time I login. The first time it works fine (lag-free) after a fresh wipe of the GNOME desktop, then the next time I log in, the settings are changed and it's sluggish. Any suggestions? Or would using KDE work more efficiently?
[04:10] <LjL> tw|sT3d: likely
[04:10] <thor> Vaske_Car: frostwire is a free limewire equivalent
[04:10] <Vaske_Car> ok
[04:10] <dooglus> Keyseir: that means it's doing something.  whether or not it's attempting to do the same thing over and over depends on what it's spitting out.  hit control-c then pastebin a large chunk of the output
[04:10] <Keyseir> sethk, I wish this "Format" GUI showed an estimated time till completion. Ar
[04:10] <Vaske_Car> what is the best for download Trance Music?
[04:10] <tw|sT3d> LjL: is that a very bad news?
[04:10] <sethk> natu`, without knowing why it's happening, it isn't really possible to say whether kde would be better.  trying it would be a nice data point for figuring out the problem.
[04:10] <mushtaq> hi is there any linux application to connect a scanner (hpscanjet) to ubuntu ?
[04:10] <sethk> Keyseir, it would be completely inaccurate, even if it did.
[04:10] <rBlong2us> how do I change the framebuffer driver?
[04:10] <dummyuno> tw|sT3d: I would bet it's software
[04:10] <sethk> Keyseir, you can, actually, increase the verbosity at the command line, but I guess you're not at the command line.
[04:11] <rBlong2us> where is it located?
[04:11] <LjL> tw|sT3d: yes, but i don't know how well/badly US robotics modems are supported specifically
[04:11] <rBlong2us> I need a specific one
[04:11] <hockyhair> sethk: do you know where the equiv of windows regional settings is in gnome?
[04:11] <mushtaq> hi is there any linux application to connect a scanner (hpscanjet) to ubuntu ? i mean the frontend for the user
[04:11] <hockyhair> im looking to enable viewing of japanese text
[04:11] <sethk> hockyhair, sorry, I'm a kde user.  someone else will know.
[04:11] <hockyhair> where is it in kde
[04:11] <Keyseir> dooglus, "root      6453  6452  0 21:25 pts/0    00:00:15 /sbin/mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda1" the second column you were referring to is the one that holds "6453" right?
[04:11] <dooglus> Keyseir: yessir
[04:12] <Vaske_Car> what is Frostwire package name?
[04:12] <tw|sT3d> LjL: how about motorola modems??? i also have that one? which ir better to used u lessen the problem
[04:12] <dooglus> Keyseir: the 3rd column (6452) is the process ID of the parent of that process - the one who started it - ie. the format gui, probably
[04:12] <Juan> anyone knows of a mp3 tagging program that works with freedb2?
[04:12] <rBlong2us> does any one how to change the framebuffer driver in Ubunut?
[04:12] <Flannel> !frostwire | Vaske_Car
[04:12] <ubotu> Vaske_Car: frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[04:12] <dummyuno> fellas, anyone can give it a hint on a known working ati driver in edgy aka 6.10
[04:12] <LjL> tw|sT3d, i don't know. if it's external, it's probably not a software modem.
[04:12] <coolpaul900> I am having a wierd page almost apear when I log out or after I boot up...Also the splash does not work...instead it just has a blinking _
[04:12] <Mantice> Once I install Beryl how to I get running ?
[04:12] <LjL> !beryl | Mantice
[04:12] <ubotu> Mantice: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[04:13] <Keyseir> dooglus, I had closed the first strace window, ran it again
[04:13] <Keyseir> dooglus, "sudo strace -p 6453
[04:13] <Keyseir> Process 6453 attached - interrupt to quit
[04:13] <Keyseir> "
[04:13] <tw|sT3d> bout of them are internals modems connected to PCI
[04:13] <Keyseir> dooglus, this time it isn't spitting anything out
[04:13] <dooglus> Keyseir: use a pastebin
[04:13] <rBlong2us> is there a way to change the framebuffer in the kernel with ubuntu? Please I have a maad flickering C
[04:13] <rBlong2us> LCD
[04:13] <dooglus> Keyseir: that's odd.  nothing at all?
[04:13] <LjL> tw|sT3d, i've got an internal modem that's not a software modem, but that's from 1997
[04:13] <tw|sT3d> LjL: thanks for answering my noobs question
[04:13] <Keyseir> dooglus, not after what I stated.
[04:13] <Keyseir> dooglus, the HD changed light patterns too
[04:13] <coolpaul900> I am having a wierd page almost apear when I log out or after I boot up...Also the splash does not work...instead it just has a blinking _
[04:13] <natu`> sethk: Was condering KDE since Gnome was giving me such a hassle. But if someone had an idea as to why my settings kept changing, and why it slowed the system down on a second login... then I'd keep gnome
[04:14] <tw|sT3d> LjL: i just hope i can figure this thing out
[04:14] <dummyuno> coolpaul900: you mean yo don't get to the desktop?
[04:14] <Mantice> !Audacious
[04:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Audacious - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:14] <coolpaul900> I do but it just looks weird at those points
[04:14] <rBlong2us> !kernel
[04:14] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[04:14] <fildo> !raid
[04:14] <ubotu> Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RaidConfigurationHowto and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[04:14] <dooglus> Keyseir: you used control-c to get out of the previous strace, right?
[04:14] <tw|sT3d> LjL: btw im sharing my cds to my frnds.. here in the philppines.. i think that the only help i can give u in return
[04:14] <Juan> anyone knows of a mp3 tagging program that works with freedb2?
[04:15] <Mantice> Can some one help me Audacious_
[04:15] <coolpaul900> also I have just upgraded to edgy
[04:15] <Keyseir> dooglus, no... I closed the terminal window to get out of the previous strace.
[04:15] <Mantice> can some one help me install Audacious?
[04:15] <LordTureis> do u mean audacity?
[04:15] <Keyseir> dooglus Was that bad?
[04:15] <Mantice> http://audacious-media-player.org
[04:15] <dooglus> Keyseir: hmm.  I wonder whether that left the strace running.  do a "sudo pkill -INT strace"
[04:15] <ricard1> hello, sound from mozilla (applications as youtube or google video suddenly stopped working. I have rebooted the computer check the volume levels, but nothing seem to work. Can anyone give me a hand, please. Thank you!
[04:15] <dummyuno> coolpaul900: I saw a lot of blank screen when I updated, so you should be happy if you get a desktop, I didn't for way to long
[04:16] <coolpaul900> How can I fix it?
[04:16] <coolpaul900> So I can see the splash?
[04:16] <coolpaul900> Also it does not show the trash can on the desktop
[04:16] <rBlong2us> if I wanna change the frambuffer driver on the kernel do I have to make a custom made kernel?
[04:17] <dummyuno> not sure, I guess theres no that icon on edgy
[04:17] <dummyuno> I see a trashbin on the right lower corner
[04:17] <LordTureis> Mantice: there seems to be something at http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202430  However, the article is from June.  It may not work on Edgy, but it will almost certainly work on Dapper.
[04:17] <coolpaul900> same here
[04:17] <dummyuno> next to the workspace chooser
[04:17] <coolpaul900> ya
[04:18] <Keyseir> dooglus, Heh. Looks like the format finished
[04:18] <roler> What program/package will convert a .m4a to .ogg or .mp3 ?
[04:18] <Keyseir> dooglus, Process ended.
[04:18] <fildo> !scsi
[04:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about scsi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:18] <coolpaul900> so can I make it so that weird screen does not pop up?
[04:18] <Mantice> Thanks LordTureis
[04:18] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> You there Kingsqueak
[04:18] <dummyuno> I'm looking for same answer here
[04:18] <coolpaul900> hmm
[04:18] <Mantice> How come I get this error message when trying to install Azureus ?
[04:18] <Mantice> How come I get this ? azureus: Depends: liblog4j1.2-java  but it is not installable Depends: libswt3.1-gtk-java but it is not going to be installed
[04:19] <dummyuno> what video card you've got?
[04:19] <rBlong2us> !framebuffer
[04:19] <ubotu> If you would like information on framebuffers, please visit: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrameBuffer
[04:19] <coolpaul900> me?
[04:19] <dooglus> Keyseir: maybe.  or maybe strace messed it up
[04:19] <LordTureis> !!!!Mantice:  Check the later pages of the thread.  There seem to be packages for edgy.
[04:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Mantice:  Check the later pages of the thread.  There seem to be packages for edgy. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:19] <dooglus> Keyseir: I guess attempting to mount the new partition will tell you which of the 2 it was
[04:19] <Keyseir> dooglus I guess I'm about to find out.
[04:19] <Vaske_Car> I installed Frostwire but when I click on it it does not start. ????
[04:19] <kronoman> for installing netbeans, should I use synaptic ? or I proceed "by hand" ?
[04:19] <Mantice> I dont have edgy :)
[04:19] <dummyuno> rBlong2us: you might give it a shoot to a xorg reconfig
[04:19] <LordTureis> oh. ok.  excellent.
[04:20] <kronoman> Vaske_Car: do you have Java runtime environment installed ? afaik Frostwire is done in java
[04:20] <tich> i just did a fresh install of edgy and i can't connect to the wireless network-- any suggestions?
[04:20] <dummyuno> Mantice: youre missing some packages
[04:20] <Keyseir> dooglus oh crap
[04:20] <LordTureis> can't help you with the azureus thing though.  Sry
[04:20] <Vaske_Car> kronoman, I am not sure. How do I install java?
[04:20] <Keyseir> dooglus, I think I had the new drive take the /home place and I think i'd already been using that
[04:21] <Keyseir> dooglus, now it looks like the GUI for the filesystem doesn't know where to look
[04:21] <mushtaq> hi is there a way to use hp scanjet on dapper ?
[04:21] <rBlong2us> dummyuno: how may I disable dri?
[04:21] <Mantice> dummyuno how to I fix this ?
[04:21] <kronoman> Vaske_Car: first, check if you have java installed, in a console type : java -version , to see if you have Java installed
[04:21] <rBlong2us> I just wanna disable it
[04:22] <Keyseir> dooglus, Whenever I try to open a file through the GUI it says "Details: Failed to change to directory '/home/andrew' (No such file or directory)
[04:22] <mushtaq> i have resource pc which have the printers and scanners and i want to transfer from windows to linux ? is it possible ?
[04:22] <Mantice> Dummyuno those packages dont appear on my list.
[04:22] <Vaske_Car> kronoman, java version "1.5.0_08"
[04:22] <tich> i installed network manager, cleaned up /etc/network/interfaces but wireless options do not appear.
[04:22] <thor> anyone know how to change the default url handler in xchat from konqueror back to firefox?
[04:22] <tich> what should i do?
[04:22] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> tich - same.
[04:22] <Keyseir> dooglus, you there?
[04:23] <tich> LGKeiz-Ubuntu, did it work with dapper?
[04:23] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> tich: Probably your wireless card, Im trying to get ahold of kingsqueak so I can get it fixed
[04:23] <dooglus> Keyseir: yes, I've been playing with mkfs.ext3, trying to see why it would take so long
[04:23] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> tich: nop
[04:23] <LordTureis> mushtaq: what kind of hp scanjet?
[04:23] <kronoman> Vaske_Car: ok, you have java installed
[04:23] <jStefan> thor, you could add more options, Settings, Advamced, URL Handlers
[04:23] <Keyseir> dooglus, I had already been using /home for my first disk (the one ubuntu is installed on) and I must have had the new one take /home
[04:23] <mushtaq> hp scanjet G7116
[04:23] <tich> LGKeiz-Ubuntu, mine worked when dapper was installed
[04:23] <kronoman> Vaske_Car: try to start frostwire from command line to see if you get any error message
[04:24] <Keyseir> dooglus, now my gui can't find any files it needs because directories don't exist
[04:24] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> tich: ;__;
[04:24] <dooglus> Keyseir: you had a /home before, and you made a new one on a new partition?
[04:24] <Keyseir> dooglus, if what used to be in /home is nolonger there, where is it? I didn't delete the old disk..
[04:24] <Keyseir> dooglus I think so.
[04:24] <stylus> how can i get an identd working?
[04:24] <dooglus> Keyseir: I guess you've mounted the new /home partition over the old /home directory
[04:24] <dooglus> Keyseir: "cd /; sudo umount /home"
[04:24] <Keyseir> dooglus, How do I unmount it the new one?
[04:24] <Keyseir> dooglus k
[04:25] <Vaske_Car> kronoman, here is the answer http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:WkrE_d4I9r4J:ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D286270+frostwire+ubuntu&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=1
[04:25] <dummyuno> Mantice: if you need Java you'd probably would need to get it from universe
[04:25] <Keyseir> dooglus, that did it
[04:25] <dummyuno> !universe
[04:25] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[04:25] <thor> jStefan: that will do, but I sure would like to restore the default to firefox. It worked fine until I installed kde in ubuntu
[04:25] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Anyone up to helping with ndiswrapper?
[04:25] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> >.>
[04:25] <Keyseir> dooglus is there an easy way to change where the second disk mounts?
[04:25] <mushtaq> LordTureis, it is C7716a
[04:26] <roler> how can I convert an mpeg4 (m4a) file to an .ogg or .mp3?
[04:26] <stylus> can someone help me setup gidentd?
[04:26] <dooglus> Keyseir: edit /etc/fstab
[04:26] <LordTureis> sry mushtaq.  I'm not finding anything.  I'm still looking though.
[04:27] <dooglus> Keyseir: or, if you just want to change it temporarily, you could: "sudo mkdir /home2; sudo mount /dev/hda-whatever /home2"
[04:27] <eaglehawk> anyone who can help me with knetworkmanager
[04:27] <Mantice> I thought java was installed automaticly
[04:27] <dooglus> Keyseir: then move all your /home files into /home2 (the new disk), then next time you boot, the new disk will be back on /home
[04:27] <dummyuno> rBlong2us: I'm investigating in LCD's and laptop video cards myself, so... This might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=107908
[04:27] <jordan_> !anyone | eaglehawk
[04:27] <ubotu> eaglehawk: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[04:27] <tich> is wireless issues a big problem with edgy?
[04:28] <Keyseir> dooglus, I think I can change the mount point path easily with the gui
[04:28] <Keyseir> dooglus, I'll just choose a new name that isn't home
[04:28] <jordan_> tich: From what I hear, ndis wrapper is broken
[04:28] <dooglus> Keyseir: I don't know the gui, but you can change the mount point by editing /etc/fstab
[04:28] <dummyuno> Mantice: java is not a "free" technology
[04:28] <dummyuno> !java
[04:28] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:29] <Keyseir> dooglus, I appreciate all your help.
[04:29] <dummyuno> !ati
[04:29] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:29] <dooglus> Keyseir: no problem
[04:30] <mushtaq> LordTureis, if that scanner is in list then what ? what is the next step i mean
[04:30] <mushtaq> what i need to do ?
[04:30] <jordan_> Is there an EFI compatable LiveCD of any sort?
[04:30] <mushtaq> do i need to do something with the kernel something LordTureis  ?
[04:31] <LordTureis> oh.  Sry.  I don't know.  What do you mean 'in the list?' what list?
[04:31] <eaglehawk> can somebody help me with knetworkmanager...I have installed it but it does not give me options to adjust wireless settings
[04:31] <dooglus> eaglehawk: maybe in #kubuntu they'd know more?
[04:31] <st4hl> hi, how do i add new user to my ubuntu server?
[04:31] <dooglus> st4hl: "sudo adduser"
[04:32] <st4hl> and deluser?
[04:32] <dooglus> st4hl: you guessed it :)
[04:32] <st4hl> ty ;)
[04:32] <LaserLine> I'm trying to create a key for launchpad using gpg --send-key key-id (key-id = xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx <-my key) but when I do that it says gpg: "xxxx" not a key ID: skipping
[04:32] <dooglus> st4hl: see the man page if you want to remove his files as well (home dir, or all)
[04:32] <st4hl> and how do i see which groups user belongs to?
[04:32] <st4hl> nod, thank you again =)
[04:33] <LordTureis> mushtaq: What do you mean 'in the list?' what list?
[04:33] <Mantice> when I try to install java 'Java Web Start 1.4' is not available in any software channel.
[04:33] <dooglus> st4hl: I log in as them and type "groups"
[04:34] <dooglus> st4hl: or "grep dooglus /etc/group"
[04:34] <jordan_> Mantice: You need to enable the multiverse repository.
[04:34] <st4hl> cool, thanks alot =)
[04:34] <st4hl> is there a fast way to add identical user?
[04:34] <LordTureis> I'm sorry I couldn't be of more help, but I've got to go.
[04:34] <st4hl> just with a different name/pwd, but same groups
[04:35] <dooglus> st4hl: adduser has lots of options.  see "man adduser"
[04:35] <kokey> How can I install edgy in text mode with th live cd?
[04:35] <Mantice> jordan_ I deleted every thing then I added every thing again.
[04:35] <corey> anyone here use enlightenment?
[04:35] <Mantice> The 4 ubuntu ones have multiverse ticked
[04:35] <dooglus> st4hl: if you have X then 'user-admin' lets you do it the gui way
[04:36] <kronoman> how I install netbeans ? by hand ? or there is a repository for it ?
[04:36] <st4hl> can i add users to /etc/group manually?
[04:36] <CientificoLoco> how can I write in japanese on Firefox, OpenOffice and messenger?
[04:36] <st4hl> i would, but i dont have x
[04:36] <dooglus> st4hl: better not to.  "sudo adduser st4hl admin" will add st4hl to the admin group
[04:37] <dooglus> st4hl: so you can loop that: for group in $(groups); do sudo adduser st4hl $group; done
[04:37] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> >.>
[04:38] <st4hl> lol, excellent, thank you so much =)
[04:38] <jordan_> Mantice: I can install it on my machine, could you pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list just to be sure ?
[04:38] <dooglus> st4hl: that'll add the new 'st4hl' user to each group that you're in
[04:38] <CientificoLoco> how can I write in japanese on Firefox, OpenOffice and messenger?
[04:38] <Mantice> ok
[04:38] <Mantice> !pastebin
[04:38] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:39] <st4hl> nodnod, that's pretty much what i need =)
[04:39] <st4hl> thanks again
[04:40] <Mantice> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30584/
[04:41] <Hansin321> Can anyone tell me the package I need to compile source packages?  I am hoping it is a single package I can apt-get (and it will get all its dependencies).  Or is this installed by default on Edge?  Thanks in advance.
[04:41] <Hansin321> More clear: compile osurce code --> configure, make, make install stuff.  Thanks.
[04:41] <bimberi> Hansin321: build-essential
[04:42] <seth_|> exit
[04:42] <Hansin321> bimberi: Thanks !!
[04:42] <seth_|> exit
[04:42] <bimberi> Hansin321: np :)
[04:42] <corey> has anyone here used ready to program with java on windows and know if there is a compiler for linux that does hsa boilerplates
[04:43] <jazzrocker> do most USB hard drives work OTB with Ubuntu?
[04:43] <crimsun> jazzrocker: many, yes.
[04:43] <jazzrocker> i'm looking to get a bigger HD for my music libarary
[04:43] <jazzrocker> crimsun, is there any page like the linux printers page but for USB hard drives?
[04:43] <Mantice> jord
[04:43] <jazzrocker> e.g. where can i find out which chipsets/hardware/brands will and won't work?
[04:43] <Mantice> jordan_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30584/
[04:44] <CientificoLoco> how can I write in japanese on Firefox, OpenOffice and messenger?
[04:44] <crimsun> jazzrocker: the 'supported usb devices' page that's "googlable"
[04:44] <crimsun> CientificoLoco: use scim
[04:44] <thevenin_> anyone know how i could setup ubuntu server dapper drake to be able to be turned on from the network
[04:44] <DeltaF> Does anyone know about a good GUI for modifying LVM partitions?
[04:44] <DeltaF> Perhaps a plugin for gparted?
[04:44] <crimsun> thevenin_: clarify, please?
[04:45] <thevenin_> i want wake-on-lan on both of my servers, what would i haft to edit to get it to accept this
[04:45] <DeltaF> thevenin_: Do you mean like Wake On Lan??
[04:45] <DeltaF> WOL is BIOS isn't it?
[04:45] <thevenin_> oh shit i do belive it is, welp thank you
[04:45] <DeltaF> sure ;)
[04:45] <DeltaF> Anyone with ideas on LVM GUI?
[04:46] <jazzrocker> crimsun, ok
[04:46] <sean> Hey guys
[04:46] <CientificoLoco> crimsun, what?
[04:47] <CientificoLoco> crimsun, how can I use it
[04:47] <crimsun> CientificoLoco: see the various wiki pages (just search)
[04:47] <bruenig> !firefox
[04:47] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:48] <sean> Hey, I searched the ubuntu site..what exactly does apt-get autoremove do?
[04:48] <daemoey> palski you here?
[04:48] <jStefan> sean, you know i just noticed the lack of documentation too
[04:48] <jazzrocker> crimsun, google for "ubuntu supported usb devices" doesn't turn up anything very useful
[04:48] <Mantice> Could some one help me fix my Repositories ?
[04:48] <jStefan> sean, neither apt-get --help nor man apt-get documents it
[04:48] <mushtaq> hi is it possible that anyone can help me use my scanner on linux
[04:48] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, what's the problem?
[04:49] <Mantice> I want to install Azureus and its complaning that I dont hava java.
[04:49] <Mantice> So I tryed to install java but its saying it cant find it.
[04:49] <jStefan> !java | Mantice
[04:49] <sean> jStefan, yeah... I just ran autoremove and it cleared 700mb but my system seems to run fine
[04:49] <mushtaq> i need a simple application to run my scanner for end use
[04:49] <ubotu> Mantice: To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[04:49] <mushtaq> user
[04:49] <crimsun> jazzrocker: not sure how you could miss linux-usb.org
[04:49] <Mantice> I did
[04:49] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, did you enable extra repositories?
[04:49] <mushtaq> they were using hp application now i want to use linux box for this purpose is it possible ?
[04:50] <daemoey> Palski: The problem with bluefish can be solved by first opening any random file. After that it will let you save a file without crashing
[04:50] <Mantice> How do I do that.
[04:50] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, system, administration, software properties, check all the boxes.....
[04:50] <daemoey> Palski: Just google a bit and theres a few other threads that talk about the issue. Its known by "people"
[04:50] <Max222-sweden> I can ping to a vpn server but i can not surf to a server in that network. But i can ping. Anybody has this problem?
[04:50] <jazzrocker> crimsun, i am, seeing as it doesn't occur here: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+supported+usb+devices&btnG=Google+Search
[04:50] <jStefan> sean, autoremove removes packages that were installed automatically (as other package dependecies) and are no longer needed. But, it requires inspection of what it plans to do, so it doesn't remove something important
[04:51] <Mantice> I did.
[04:51] <sean> jStefan, Thanks :)
[04:51] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, now try installing java
[04:52] <crimsun> jazzrocker: go to the address I gave you, then click on "Working devices list"
[04:52] <jazzrocker> crimsun, you gave me an address?
[04:52] <Mantice> I removed every thing and I added them all again with the tick boxes
[04:52] <jazzrocker> crimsun, oh, linux-usb.org lol, k
[04:53] <jazzrocker> crimsun, already went there
[04:53] <jazzrocker> crimsun, hahah, actually i found that page already lol, didn't know it was related to linux-usb.org :)
[04:53] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, sudo aptitude update, then sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre
[04:53] <crimsun> jazzrocker: my advice is simply to try both 6.06.1 and 6.10 desktop cds
[04:53] <dooglus> sean: this is known: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/59555
[04:53] <rBlong2us> hi for the life of me how can I disable DRI
[04:54] <Mantice> 'sun-java5-bin' is not available in any software channel
[04:54] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, try search aptitude java, and find the package you need that way
[04:54] <Jewfro-Macabbi> I mean aptitude search java
[04:54] <dooglus> !info sun-java5-bin
[04:54] <ubotu> sun-java5-bin: Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.5.0-08-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 21811 kB, installed size 65084 kB
[04:55] <Mantice> it says unknown comand.
[04:55] <zcat[1] > !ntfs
[04:55] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[04:55] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, to which?
[04:55] <Mantice> sudo aptitude update, then sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre
[04:55] <Mantice> Hold on
[04:55] <Mantice> I screwd up :)
[04:56] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, then you got a typo, "sudo aptitude update", "sudo aptitude install sun-java5-jre"
[04:56] <Mantice> Yeah I know.
[04:56] <ajax4> Hi everyone. Can someone tell me how to ban a certain IP from connecting to me?
[04:56] <CientificoLoco> crimsun, If I install the packes for japanese I will wirete in japanes.??
[04:56] <rBlong2us> how can I disable DRI with ubuntu, please someone
[04:56] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, sorry, "sudo aptitude install sun-java5-bin"
[04:56] <rBlong2us> I have a jerky screen highly annoying
[04:57] <zcat[1] > !botsnack
[04:57] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:57] <zcat[1] > !help
[04:57] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl  -  Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[04:57] <rBlong2us> I need to disable DRI someone :-(
[04:58] <Mantice> Jewfro-Macbbi I think I know why none of this was working.........
[04:58] <dooglus> rBlong2us: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[04:58] <Mantice> The following packages have been kept back:
[04:58] <Mantice>   linux-386
[04:58] <crimsun> CientificoLoco: the wiki(s) outline that in far more detail than I can explain.
[04:58] <rBlong2us> dooglus: aright
[04:58] <Mantice> Thats the update I did not update.
[04:58] <dooglus> rBlong2us: then restart xorg
[04:58] <Mantice> Because some one told me I could not use beryl with the new kernal.
[04:58] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, not sure that's related actually.
[04:59] <jStefan> Mantice, do you have "restricted" in your repos?
[04:59] <Jordan_U> jStefan: Yes, he does http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30584/
[04:59] <caseyjunior> yay
[04:59] <Mantice> The 4 I have all say restricted copywrite.
[04:59] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, is azureus install already, and how, from repository, .deb, source?
[05:00] <maxflax> Im trying to install a TV card into ubuntu.. a Twinhan Mantis DVB-T card.. anyone have any pointer to give about this! I haven't got a foggiest Idea what to do now..
[05:00] <caseyjunior> MAXFLAX U CANT INSTALL A TV CARD IN JEWBUNTOO
[05:00] <caseyjunior> JEWBUNTOO DOESN'T SUPPORT ADVANCED TECHNOLOGY.
[05:00] <teenprogrammer> hi
[05:00] <jStefan> !caps | caseyjunior
[05:00] <ubotu> caseyjunior: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[05:00] <Mantice> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "sun-java5-bin"
[05:00] <st4hl> lol
[05:00] <edgar> prueba prueba usuario nuevo en linux
[05:01] <caseyjunior> !rape | jStefan
[05:01] <jStefan> !es | edgar
[05:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rape - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:01] <ubotu> edgar: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:01] <caseyjunior> ROR
[05:01] <teenprogrammer> how do i setup ssh on my newly installted ubuntu server?
[05:01] <jStefan> !ops | caseyjunior
[05:01] <dusk> whats your favorite bittorrent client?
[05:01] <caseyjunior> GAY BOT
[05:01] <ubotu> caseyjunior: Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[05:01] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, is azureus installed already?
[05:01] <edgar> someone speaks spanish?
[05:01] <Mantice> No.
[05:01] <Madpilot> !es
[05:01] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:01] <jStefan> Madpilot, thx
[05:01] <jStefan> !es > edgar
[05:01] <boxahy> http://arch.kimag.es/share/56135400.png man i love my connection
[05:01] <Mantice> Synamtic would not let me install it because it couldent find java.
[05:01] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, okay, just try "sudo aptitude install azureus"
[05:02] <boxahy> un burro sabe mas que tu
[05:02] <BHSPitLappy> teenprogrammer, install ssh via apt, and then you're good
[05:02] <Madpilot> jStefan, just for next time, you don't need to address the ops tell to anyone, just hit it
[05:02] <squeee> Is it possible to use docx in linux yet?
[05:02] <teenprogrammer> um
[05:02] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, and check again you have all the extra repositories enabled
[05:02] <teenprogrammer> apt?
[05:02] <jStefan> Madpilot, avoids the inevitable "Who?" if the op was AFK
[05:03] <dooglus> teenprogrammer: "sudo apt-get install ssh"
[05:03] <jStefan> i'll keep note
[05:03] <maxflax> Madpilot, do u now how to get a tv card working and what is needed?
[05:03] <zcat[1] > !ntfs
[05:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[05:03] <teenprogrammer> k
[05:03] <teenprogrammer> thanks
[05:03] <Madpilot> maxflax, no idea, sorry.
[05:03] <zcat[1] > !rt2500
[05:03] <ubotu> rt2500: configuration tool for wireless RT2500 network cards. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.0+cvs20060620-3 (edgy), package size 106 kB, installed size 404 kB
[05:03] <Madpilot> jStefan, good point, actually, on the use of the ops tell
[05:03] <CITguy> Does anybody know how I might go about printing a list of the available packages in the Synaptic package manager?
[05:04] <dooglus> teenprogrammer: that will install both openssh-client and openssh-server.  if you don't want both, pick the one you want.
[05:04] <Mantice> Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "azureus"
[05:04] <dooglus> !info azureus
[05:04] <ubotu> azureus: BitTorrent client. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 6922 kB, installed size 7780 kB
[05:04] <dooglus> it's in universe.
[05:04] <Madpilot> CITguy, that'd be a pretty long list, there are something over 17,000 packages in the whole set of repos
[05:04] <jStefan> Madpilot, even though you still have to check, and not take my word for it. but it helps as in "who/what" you have to check for
[05:05] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, you need to check that you have all repositories enabled again
[05:05] <CITguy> I don't care. Where could I do it.
[05:05] <zcat[1] > !wireless
[05:05] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:05] <jStefan> Mantice, remember to "sudo apt-get update" after editing sources.list
[05:05] <bunny> hi ne one of u used OSSIM on ubuntu
[05:06] <dhuv> hello all
[05:06] <eaglehawk> can somebody help me with knetworkmanager...I have installed it but it does not give me options to adjust wireless settings
[05:06] <dhuv> I am having issues with booting while the miniPCI wireless card is installed, I keep getting "failed to start the card", I have seen references to this bug and suggestions to add irqpoll to the grub boot options but this has not helped me
[05:06] <dooglus> CITguy: running "apt-cache search ." will list all the available packages.
[05:06] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, you can also edit your repository list manually, see here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources
[05:06] <dhuv> I think the problem might be that the ipw2100 firmware is not on the system, I tried to put the files in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/ but this obviously is not working, does anybody know where exactly it belongs
[05:07] <dooglus> CITguy: it prints 20,214 lines here
[05:07] <CITguy> thx dooglus
[05:07] <dooglus> poor trees.  :(
[05:07] <Mantice> Its downloading a whole bunch of files...
[05:08] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, more specific please?
[05:08] <Mantice> Downloading package infomation.
[05:08] <NeoEcoS> hello, a quick question witch brand should i use to get 4 gb ram working ?
[05:08] <NeoEcoS> bigiron ?
[05:08] <Jewfro-Macabbi> ah, then try installing again
[05:08] <bunny> can ne one help me regarding ossim on ubuntu
[05:09] <teenprogrammer> so i just installed SSH
[05:09] <teenprogrammer> should i be able to ssh to the server now?
[05:09] <teenprogrammer> or how do i set it up?
[05:09] <Lava_Croft> oh yeah
[05:09] <Lava_Croft> n--buntu
[05:09] <roler> Can I convert an mpeg4 audio file to ogg?
[05:09] <natu`> Where can I check to see if my GNOME settings are automatically being saved on logout?
[05:10] <Mantice> It worked. Its installing now.
[05:11] <Mantice> Jewfor-Macabbi: Thanks for that.
[05:11] <Jewfro-Macabbi> Mantice, you are welcome
[05:14] <dooglus> teenprogrammer: it should just work
[05:14] <dooglus> teenprogrammer: (I think)
[05:14] <teenprogrammer> um
[05:14] <teenprogrammer> whats the equivalent of windows ipconfig
[05:14] <teenprogrammer> in linux?
[05:14] <teenprogrammer> how do i find its ip address?
[05:14] <crimsun> ifconfig(1)
[05:15] <crimsun> err, ifconfig(8) even
[05:17] <PFA> how do i find out my processor speed/ other hardware specs?
[05:18] <dooglus> PFA: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[05:19] <Healot> PFA: try "Hardware Browser"
[05:19] <PFA> thx dooglus
[05:20] <Pablo> anyone have any luck with swscanner?
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> Pablo, ya
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> i use it
[05:21] <nomasteryoda> works even with my broadcom chip
[05:22] <Pablo> are you running network monitor?
[05:22] <Pablo> can you right click on a ap and associate?
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> ah, well maybe
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> just sec
[05:22] <Pablo> ok
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> you mean the monitor tool in the tray?
[05:22] <nomasteryoda> or the swscanner
[05:23] <Pablo> well it seems the confilict with each other
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> oh
[05:23] <maxflax> anyone running a twinhan card?
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> i've seen some issue with that
[05:23] <Pablo> you seen a solution?
[05:23] <nomasteryoda> i just rightclick the icon and disable the wireless when i'm scanning
[05:23] <Pablo> oh
[05:23] <Lava_Croft> k this chan makes me cry just as ubuntu does
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> then reinable when done doing recon/.
[05:24] <daviddixon> i installed mplayerplug-in for firefox. but i still cant watch streaming video. where is the plugin located so i can copy it to my .mozilla folder.
[05:24] <Pablo> so you do not associate through swscanner?
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> nope
[05:24] <Pablo> you just use it to find ssid's?
[05:24] <Pablo> ok
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> i do it with gnome-network-manager
[05:24] <Pablo> it has the ability to be ur wireless manager
[05:24] <nomasteryoda> in the tray
[05:24] <dusk> what is the fix for googlevideo/youtube no lag?
[05:25] <Pablo> disable ipv6?
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> that might help
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> daviddixon, i use automatix
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> it makes the installation easier
[05:25] <daviddixon> ??
[05:25] <nomasteryoda> !automatix
[05:25] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[05:26] <Pablo> lol
[05:26] <daviddixon> hm.. doesnt sound too good
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> i have had no issues ... but then again, i selectively choose my software
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> daviddixon, the guide on the forum is simple to follow too
[05:26] <nomasteryoda> i used to do it that way
[05:26] <daviddixon> i know its installed just need to know where the plugin is located in the root directory so i can copy it to user
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> linking is the prefered method
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> ln -s file file
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> symbolic link
[05:27] <nomasteryoda> let me find mine
[05:27] <teenprogrammer> how do i install apache/
[05:28] <daviddixon> right. do you know what it's called so i can search
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> apt-get install apache2?
[05:28] <jStefan> !apache | teenprogrammer
[05:28] <ubotu> teenprogrammer: lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> sure
[05:28] <nomasteryoda> it works for me...
[05:29] <sethk> teenprogrammer, same way you install anything else.   easiest way is to search for apache in synaptic
[05:29] <teenprogrammer> i am trying to set it up on a server
[05:30] <phab> !save
[05:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about save - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[05:30] <teenprogrammer> so i dont have the luxary of a gui
[05:30] <daviddixon> thanks
[05:30] <nomasteryoda> np
[05:30] <|rt|> anyone know what would cause an apache module to not be auto enabled when installed?
[05:30] <sethk> teenprogrammer, that's a misconception
[05:30] <CientificoLoco> How can I write in firefox messenger openoffice ... in Japanese?
[05:31] <jStefan> !info apache2
[05:31] <ubotu> apache2: next generation, scalable, extendable web server. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.55-4ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 35 kB, installed size 80 kB
[05:31] <sethk> teenprogrammer, you can run gui setup programs on the server.  you have to direct the display to an X server, but that can be on any machine
[05:31] <teenprogrammer> ah
[05:31] <|rt|> I've installed php4 and the php4.load and php4.conf are not getting the sym links in the mods-enabled folder
[05:31] <|rt|> libapache-mod-php4 to be exact
[05:31] <sethk> teenprogrammer, X windows is layered properly, which unfortunately windows isn't.  there is a strict separation between display, and program
[05:32] <sethk> teenprogrammer, they can be on the same box, on different boxes.  You can run an X server on a windows box, and display your linux server configuration programs on it.
[05:32] <sethk> teenprogrammer, which can be useful if you don't have a box running X windows.
[05:32] <teenprogrammer> seriously?!?!
[05:32] <teenprogrammer> :O
[05:32] <teenprogrammer> i have a windows box
[05:32] <sethk> teenprogrammer, free X server is part of the cygwin package at www.cygwin.com
[05:32] <teenprogrammer> that would be amazing
[05:32] <CientificoLoco> How can I write in firefox messenger openoffice ... in Japanese?
[05:32] <|rt|> sethk: xming is a good windows xserver
[05:32] <teenprogrammer> wow!!! thanks sethk
[05:32] <sethk> |rt|, haven't used it much.  good performance?
[05:33] <|rt|> sethk: yes..and doesn't have the cygwin dependancy
[05:33] <sethk> teenprogrammer, |rt| is showing you an alternative X server for windows
[05:33] <sethk> teenprogrammer, there are others, but many are not free.  I'll have to try xming.
[05:33] <maxflax> can I modprobe modules with success without having the hardware for it?
[05:34] <teenprogrammer> so i need to install xserver on my ubuntu box right?
[05:34] <teenprogrammer> so windows can use it?
[05:34] <|rt|> teenprogrammer: yes
[05:34] <sethk> teenprogrammer, cygwin is rather large and takes a long time to install.  it has other advantages, though, it gives you good shells, and many other programs.  In fact, running the shell in windows makes it feel unix like, although it isn't terribly deep.
[05:34] <sethk> teenprogrammer, no
[05:34] <sethk> teenprogrammer, you don't have to
[05:34] <teenprogrammer> oh
[05:34] <sethk> teenprogrammer, the server can run X _client_ programs
[05:34] <teenprogrammer> oh
[05:34] <teenprogrammer> ic
[05:35] <sethk> teenprogrammer, then they will display on the X server, which can run anywhere, linux, windows, OSX, etc.
[05:35] <|rt|> teenprogrammer: what I do is ssh to my linux box using putty then with xming run the x programs
[05:35] <roach_> I'm trying to get Beryl installed on Edgy-AMD64, but can't find xserver-xgl for Edgy on AMD64 (as a packaged binary) in any of the repositories I've checked.  Does anyone know of a source I can add?
[05:35] <daviddixon> hm ..copied all the plugins over but still no video?
[05:35] <charles_> surabaya
[05:35] <nomasteryoda> daviddixon, just sec
[05:35] <daviddixon> ok
[05:35] <sethk> |rt|, teenprogrammer I do something very similar, although I use a different ssh program.  same end result.
[05:35] <|rt|> sethk: wouldn't you have a hard time installing X programs without a local x server with is normally a dependancy
[05:35] <TMX> roach: I was going this earlier, try using beryl, Il dig out the walkthrough I was using
[05:35] <sethk> |rt|, no, not really
[05:35] <TMX> 8doing
[05:35] <sethk> |rt|, you can install only client support.  I have two boxes set up that way
[05:35] <paras> channel, If i run vidoes from you tube i can see the video but no sound... need a solution for this
[05:36] <|rt|> sethk: ah...cool
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> daviddixon, what does your about:plugins show?
[05:36] <sethk> |rt|, one mail server, one web server, neither has X installed, but the X client libraries are all you need
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> don't post here
[05:36] <|rt|> sethk: the box i do this to runs mythtv frontend so it has X installed
[05:36] <nomasteryoda> just see what it says
[05:36] <TMX> roach_, http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[05:36] <sethk> |rt|, indeed, I didn't say you can't, or you shouldn't, only that it isn't mandatory.
[05:36] <jordan_> paras: Are you using flash 9?
[05:36] <daviddixon> let me check
[05:37] <maxflax> can I modprobe modules with success without having the hardware for it?
[05:37] <maxflax> can I modprobe modules with success without having the hardware for it?
[05:37] <maxflax> can I modprobe modules with success without having the hardware for it?'
[05:37] <sethk> it's nice to have the option.  you can make a very compact server, and not give up the nice user interface
[05:37] <sethk> maxflax, yes
[05:37] <paras> jordan_, i guess no
[05:37] <paras> jordan_, do i need it?
[05:37] <|rt|> is there a ubuntu tool for managing apache modules or are you supposed to just manually set the symlinks?
[05:37] <crimsun> maxflax: depends on the module.
[05:37] <sethk> maxflax, all the probe does is make sure that module symbols are defined
[05:37] <daviddixon> just java and flash
[05:37] <sethk> maxflax, it loads any other modules that might be necessary
[05:37] <CientificoLoco> How can I write in firefox messenger openoffice ... in Japanese?
[05:37] <fluxinator> I recently installed edgy from live cd, and I wanted to know whether or not the root account is supposed to be enabled
[05:37] <maxflax> ok
[05:37] <roach_> TMX, thanks!
[05:37] <sethk> maxflax, now, the module is pretty useless without the hardware, but modprobe doesn't care.
[05:37] <jordan_> paras: Flash 7 has inherent sound problems because it uses OSS instead of ALSA, flash 9 fixes the sound issues.
[05:37] <nomasteryoda> daviddixon, ok, well then they are not installed correctly
[05:37] <TMX> roach_: np :)
[05:38] <daviddixon> right
[05:38] <jordan_> !flash9 | paras
[05:38] <ubotu> paras: Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[05:38] <zenmonk> how do u create a new shell and then how do you switch between shells?
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> what about apt-get install mplayer?
[05:38] <paras> jordan_, ok.
[05:38] <daviddixon> i installed them through apt
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> ok
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> hmmm
[05:38] <|rt|> fluxinator: ubuntu doesn't really come with root enabled out of the box...administration is intended to be done using sudo
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> stock firefox?
[05:38] <paras> ubotu, thanks i will install it right away
[05:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks i will install it right away - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:38] <nomasteryoda> edgy?
[05:39] <daviddixon> ah its broke
[05:39] <kokey> where can I find info about to install edgy in text mode?
[05:39] <roach_> grr - I just added "deb http://ubuntu.beryl-project.org/ edgy main-edgy main-edgy-amd64" as a source, per the guide.  I see beryl and emerald-themes, but not xserver-xgl...  :(
[05:39] <CientificoLoco> How can I write in firefox messenger openoffice ... in Japanese?
[05:39] <sethk> kokey, not sure, but it is extremely easy.  it's all menu driven.  it's not command line, it uses terminal based display
[05:39] <nomasteryoda> kokey, the alternate cd is used for that purpose
[05:39] <Healot> kokey: the alternate-install CD? wait a sec edgy has alternate-install CD right?
[05:40] <sethk> kokey, all you do is run it and answer the questions.  just as easy as a graphical install.
[05:40] <sethk> Healot, right
[05:40] <sethk> Healot, the alternate cd has text mode install, and oem install
[05:40] <sethk> Healot, for the most recent two versions.  before that, text mode and graphical were on one cd
[05:40] <kokey> sethk, but with the graphical install my lap hangs
[05:40] <fluxinator> |rt|, I know but I am looking through the users and groups and I see root there
[05:40] <zenmonk> how do you switch between multiple shells?
[05:40] <sethk> kokey, indeed, use the text mode install.  I'm just saying you don't need any docs
[05:41] <kokey> si do I need to download other cd?
[05:41] <sethk> kokey, yes
[05:41] <CientificoLoco> How can I write in firefox messenger openoffice ... in Japanese?
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> kokey, what kind of laptop?
[05:41] <daviddixon> nomasteryoda: yeah edgy. says mplayer depends on libdirectfb-9.22 but i have 9.24 installed
[05:41] <tj__> i need a nice giu that i can use for a bash script i am writing, any ideas aside from zenity and dialog?
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> i had issues with a sony
[05:41] <fluxinator> |rt|,  there is root and fluxinator listed as accounts
[05:41] <kokey> nomasteryoda, it's a Dell inspiron 1150
[05:41] <nomasteryoda> oh, that should work fine with the alternate
[05:41] <CientificoLoco> ubuntu.es
[05:41] <CientificoLoco> ubuntu-es?
[05:41] <CientificoLoco> for japan?
[05:41] <sethk> kokey, some dells I've had issues with on graphical install.  others not.  text mode install is no problem
[05:41] <sethk> !es
[05:41] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:42] <crimsun> CientificoLoco: that would be #ubuntu-jp
[05:42] <sethk> CientificoLoco, es, for japan?  they speak spanish in japan now?  :)
[05:42] <fluxinator> !jp
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <fluxinator> hah
[05:42] <Healot> !ime
[05:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ime - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:42] <roach_> doh - never mind!  I didn't have "universe" checked (new/clean Edgy install)
[05:42] <Healot> dang
[05:42] <jrib> Where would be the right location for documentation about /etc/environment?  Specifcally, the use of $LANGUAGE
[05:43] <CientificoLoco> sethk, do you talk spanish?
[05:43] <CientificoLoco> How can I write in firefox messenger openoffice ... in Japanese?
[05:43] <sethk> CientificoLoco, I try, but my spanish needs a lot of work.
[05:43] <Healot> CientificoLoco: install the Japanese language support :0
[05:43] <micros> !x
[05:43] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[05:43] <CientificoLoco> Healot, but I wanna work whit spanich tittle and jut wanna write japanes
[05:44] <sethk> CientificoLoco, I know what you meant, by the way, you meant the japanese equivalent of the -es for spanish, I just couldn't resist  teasing you about it.
[05:44] <Healot> enabled SCIM or SKIM afterwards, then the configure the keyboard and the IME... kinda like the one you do in Windows
[05:44] <fluxinator> crimsun, I recently installed edgy from live cd, and I wanted to know whether or not the root account is supposed to be enabled
[05:44] <crimsun> !root
[05:44] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:44] <sethk> CientificoLoco, japanese support is available, but I know very little about the double byte and mixed single/double character sets
[05:44] <linlin> what would be the easiest way to download all files from an apache directory list like this http://newsreal.loveturtle.net/NewsReal/64kbps/
[05:44] <crimsun> fluxinator: it has not been so in my exp.
[05:44] <sethk> linlin, wget
[05:44] <fluxinator> crimsun, should I remove the root account
[05:44] <fluxinator> ?
[05:45] <linlin> yes i know but i want to do it automatically
[05:45] <sethk> linlin, script wget.
[05:45] <sethk> linlin, you'll find lots of examples of that
[05:45] <crimsun> fluxinator: I wouldn't, no.
[05:45] <fluxinator> crimsun, is there a way to disable logging in as root
[05:46] <sethk> linlin, there are programs around to keep two web servers in sync, you could use one of those perhaps to accomplish your purpose
[05:46] <CientificoLoco> sethk, ah!
[05:46] <CientificoLoco> :O
[05:46] <sethk> fluxinator, there is a way to set the password in such a way that you can't log in
[05:46] <jpedroza> hello. Can anyone here assist me in setting up a Formac 2010 LCD under Kubuntu-ppc?
[05:46] <sethk> fluxinator, ubuntu does that for one of the install modes, but not for oem install
[05:47] <sethk> jpedroza, does it "look" like a normal vga display?
[05:47] <Hansin321> I liked the thread on running an X-Server on a Windows box, running the clients off the "headless" Linux sever.  When starting a program from the "headless" box (say via PuTTY), how do you direct output to the X-Server running on the Windows box?  Thanks.
[05:47] <jpedroza> not really
[05:47] <sethk> jpedroza, I mean does it use the usual monitor interface?
[05:47] <jpedroza> it is a flat panel
[05:47] <CientificoLoco> How can I write in Japanes on firefox messenger openoffice ... ?
[05:47] <sethk> jpedroza, yes, I know
[05:47] <jpedroza> It is a digital flat panel on a DVI
[05:47] <sagar_> whenever i click a ".desktop" file, gnome gives me errors and says it cant open it..the same goes for image files, even after i add a file type association...is this a gnome-vfs problem or something??
[05:47] <fluxinator> sethk, I installed from live cd, and I see that root is enabled, and has its own unique password
[05:47] <teenprogrammer> does ubuntu have an editable motd?
[05:47] <sethk> jpedroza, ok, so it's a DVI interface
[05:47] <paras> ubotu, it says .. instalation failed
[05:47] <Fireal> does anyone have a link or mind describing how to have Caps Lock on when you log in?
[05:47] <daviddixon> I'm confused about what to do here? i have libdirectfb-9.24 installed yet mplayer wont properly install without 9.22 which doesnt exist?
[05:47] <sethk> jpedroza, you set it up like any other monitor
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about it says .. instalation failed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <sethk> teenprogrammer, it does, but I forget where.  someone will know.
[05:48] <jpedroza> I have been trying, but the screen is quite red and the images are posterized
[05:48] <nomasteryoda> daviddixon, do you have all the sources added for your version?
[05:48] <paras> ubotu, 8559d7f4432d6a80458fdcd14e8fe2d6  /tmp/flashplugin-nonfree.qkuXNr/flash-player-plugin-9.0.21.55/libflashplayer.so
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about 8559d7f4432d6a80458fdcd14e8fe2d6  /tmp/flashplugin-nonfree.qkuXNr/flash-player-plugin-9.0.21.55/libflashplayer.so - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <nomasteryoda> like universe, etc.
[05:48] <daviddixon> yep
[05:48] <paras> ubotu, after that line
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about after that line - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <jordan_> paras: ubotu is a bot.
[05:48] <paras> ubotu, ok
[05:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:48] <nomasteryoda> hehe
[05:48] <teenprogrammer> ubot motd
[05:48] <daviddixon> have every possible source added
[05:48] <fluxinator> sethk is there a reason why this is so?
[05:48] <teenprogrammer> :/
[05:49] <jpedroza> sethk: I have tried quite a lot of settings, but they all are really odd looking
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> daviddixon, well then my solution... is the evil automatix
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> =D
[05:49] <therapy> !motd
[05:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about motd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:49] <daviddixon> can i apt get it?
[05:49] <sethk> fluxinator, the idea that ubuntu doesn't have a root account is utter and complete nonsense.
[05:49] <teenprogrammer> ubot, what is the motd
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> daviddixon, wait
[05:49] <sethk> fluxinator, the amazing thing is that people keep repeating it, as if it were true
[05:49] <therapy> ubotu
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> why not use the mozilla-mplayer?
[05:49] <teenprogrammer> where is the motd ubot
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> it works
[05:49] <nomasteryoda> for firefox too
[05:49] <bimberi> teenprogrammer: /etc/motd
[05:49] <sethk> fluxinator, the root account on ubuntu is exactly like the root account on every other linux and *nix system.
[05:49] <daviddixon> yeah have that installed too
[05:49] <Fireal>  does anyone have a link or mind describing how to have Caps Lock on when you log in?
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> ah, then maybe conflicting with the other one... look into the plugins folder under that /lib subfolder
[05:50] <fluxinator> sethk why does root on my computer have its own password that I have not specified... thats the real point of asking
[05:50] <protocol1> I installed automatix2 and it had everthing i needed for multimedia, java etc
[05:50] <nomasteryoda> leme look
[05:50] <jordan_> fluxinator: To enable a root password run: sudo passwd root
[05:50] <jpedroza> jordan_: I was just going to type that...
[05:50] <sethk> fluxinator, there is an option for setting a password to a value that doesn't match any password you can enter
[05:50] <sethk> fluxinator, it's a method for disabling login
[05:51] <sethk> fluxinator, for the default install, it is used.  for other installs, such as the oem install, you are prompted for the root password
[05:51] <sethk> fluxinator, you can change the root password to a reall one if you like.
[05:51] <fluxinator> sethk in other words, root login has been disabled
[05:52] <alexander> hey everyone
[05:52] <jordan_> fluxinator: In general, the people who care about having a root password know how to enable it.
[05:52] <sethk> fluxinator, right.  the account is normal, but the password has been set with passwd -l
[05:52] <kokey> thanks to all
[05:52] <kokey> bye
[05:52] <fnf> Hi, I'm playing a bit with vmware-player, do you recommend using qemu or vmware server as a host environment for this ?.
[05:52] <fluxinator> jordan_, I was just asking to be on the safe side
[05:53] <fluxinator> thanks sethk
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> daviddixon, i'm using this list ... or here's what I have in mine... the plugin folder... http://pastebin.com/819506
[05:53] <nomasteryoda> totem is there and the plugin
[05:53] <alexander> hey guys, I got a question about ubuntu, is there a way to work with 2 LAN at the same time
[05:53] <alexander> ?
[05:54] <jpedroza> sethk: Now I have a huge screen and have to scroll around by moving the mouse outside the boundaries...
[05:54] <nomasteryoda> alexander, as in bridging them?
[05:54] <nomasteryoda> for a router?
[05:55] <jpedroza> Could this be more of a video card driver than a monitor issue?
[05:55] <CientificoLoco> How can I write in Japanes on firefox messenger openoffice ... ?
[05:55] <fnf> alexander: You need to have two separate network cards for this.
[05:55] <alexander> yep, i got those
[05:55] <daviddixon> i ahve all the mplayer plugins but i think my mplayer is broken
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> apt-get remove mplayer
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> etc... then reinstall it
[05:56] <alexander> how do you address a message to a specific person in this chat? (i am new :( )
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> er, that "etc" means ...
[05:56] <dougsko> anyone know how to get ncurses stuff to display correctly in a screen? ive tried setting the $TERM to rxvt, but no joy
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> =D
[05:56] <powercat> how do I get higher resolution than 1024x768?
[05:56] <bimberi> CientificoLoco: someone asked that previously and was pointed towards "scim"
[05:56] <fnf> alexander: Or setting up a VPN, but this seems to be slightly out of question. Can you play a bit with /etc/network/interfaces ?
[05:56] <crimsun> dougsko: use TERM=vt102 instead.
[05:56] <paras> ubotu, jordan_ flash 9 working by doing manual installation :)
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jordan_ flash 9 working by doing manual installation :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:56] <KakarottoCL> hi!
[05:56] <nomasteryoda> powercat, depends on the video card and monitor
[05:56] <dougsko> crimsun: cool, ill give it a go
[05:56] <paras> ubotu, jordan_ i have sound now
[05:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jordan_ i have sound now - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <nomasteryoda> powercat, and drivers for the video card
[05:57] <powercat> nomasteryoda: nvidia 6800 gt, viewsonic vp171
[05:57] <jrib> Where would be the right location for documentation about /etc/environment?  Specifcally, the use of $LANGUAGE
[05:57] <jpedroza> is there a specific chanel for ppc-kubuntu?
[05:57] <KakarottoCL> please i need help!
[05:57] <Madpilot> jpedroza, there's #kubuntu
[05:57] <bimberi> alexander: type "bim" (without the "s) and hit the tab key
[05:57] <nomasteryoda> !tell powercat about nvidia
[05:57] <jrib> !ask | KakarottoCL
[05:57] <ubotu> KakarottoCL: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:57] <nomasteryoda> !nvidia
[05:57] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:57] <dougsko> crimsun: lol, that just seems to freeze things up
[05:57] <bimberi> !tab | alexander
[05:57] <ubotu> alexander: You can use <tab> for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.
[05:58] <crimsun> dougsko: make sure you're not in scroll lock.
[05:58] <nomasteryoda> tab completion rocks
[05:58] <orville> hi,
[05:58] <nomasteryoda> welcome orville
[05:58] <alexander> bimberi, yay! finnaly... lol....
[05:58] <dougsko> crimsun: no, im good there. maybe vt100?
[05:58] <KakarottoCL> thanks.. well i'm currently using ubuntu 6.06 TLS, but when trying to upgrade to 6.10 (with the ISO burned cd) I get an empty screen after the booter load..
[05:58] <orville> can someone here tell me where I put modules I want loaded at startup in ubuntu?
[05:58] <baxter_kylie> Can anyone tell me if it's possible to fake-eject a cd or dvd rom?
[05:59] <bimberi> alexander: :)
[05:59] <jrib> baxter_kylie: what does that mean?
[05:59] <orville> hi nomasteryoda.
[05:59] <jordan_> baxter_kylie: Like unmount it but not eject it?
[05:59] <Magilla> yay! Dapper -> Edgy upgrade 95% successful
[05:59] <Magilla> :D
[05:59] <baxter_kylie> jrib: I want to auto-run some drive speed utilities but they won't run so long as a disc is in a drive. I want to eject the discs without physically ejecting them.
[05:59] <alexander> fnf, but is it possible in theory or no? like the usage of 2 LANs at the same time?
[06:00] <amax> hello all. People, help me please, I unable to find gconf-sharp package, where I can find it? pleaseeee.
[06:00] <baxter_kylie> jordan_: unmount doesn't work.
[06:00] <baxter_kylie> jordan_: they're already unmounted.
[06:00] <teenprogrammer> whats a good email server application to install on my ubuntu server?
[06:00] <dougsko> crimsun: outside of screen, im using rxvt. so im kinda baffled as to why that wouldnt work in screen too
[06:00] <bimberi> teenprogrammer: dovecot
[06:01] <zenmonk> I have a question, if I type sh in bash, it creates a new sh process, how can I switch between which sh process I am typing in?
[06:01] <jordan_> baxter_kylie: But is that the effect you want, for them to be unmounted but still in the tray.
[06:01] <KakarottoCL> I need help please.. i'm trying to install ubuntu 6.10 but when the X is supposed to start, it hangs up.. i get a blank screen even in the Safe Graphics mode!
[06:01] <nomasteryoda> orville, type man modules
[06:01] <AlienX> which library do i need to play m4a or aac files in ubuntu?
[06:01] <dougsko> crimsun: oh well, its late, i appreciate the input though
[06:01] <AlienX> i'm using edgy
[06:01] <nomasteryoda> KakarottoCL, is it a desktop or laptop?
[06:01] <KakarottoCL> nomasteryoda: it is a desktop
[06:01] <KakarottoCL> nomasteryoda: indeed i'm using version 6.06 already without problems..
[06:01] <nomasteryoda> ok, does the video card have a cooling fan?
[06:01] <nomasteryoda> ok
[06:02] <amax> why so hard to find anything for ubuntu? the simple package gconf-sharp is present even under gentoo. but not ubuntu. shame!
[06:02] <KakarottoCL> nomasteryoda: it's not a problem with the video card, it's a radeon 9550
[06:02] <nomasteryoda> well, then there goes that theory
[06:02] <powercat> nomasteryoda: after following the instructions at the site about nvidia drivers, I still can only go up to 1024x768.
[06:02] <alexander> nomasteryoda, hey, you know if there is a way to work of off 2 LAN at the same time?
[06:02] <nomasteryoda> powercat, did you do the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[06:02] <baxter_kylie> jordan_: yes, I'd like to have enough access to run speedcontrol and hdparm -x without the disc leaving the tray. It only has to run at boot.
[06:03] <bimberi> amax: it's called gconf-sharp2 - use synaptic or 'apt-cache search string' or http://packages.ubuntu.com to find packages
[06:03] <nomasteryoda> alexander, i'm looking... i've seen that before... its called teaming in the windows world..
[06:04] <amax> bimberi: not found. did you have it ?
[06:04] <powercat> nomasteryoda: I'll try that. thanks
[06:04] <bimberi> amax: do you have unverse enabled?
[06:04] <bimberi> amax: *universe
[06:04] <bimberi> !info gconf-sharp2
[06:04] <ubotu> Package gconf-sharp2 does not exist in any distro I know
[06:05] <jordan_> baxter_kylie: I don't know what to say, sudo umount /media/cdrom0 works for me
[06:05] <amax> !info gconf-sharp
[06:05] <ubotu> Package gconf-sharp does not exist in any distro I know
[06:05] <bruenig> !info gconf2
[06:05] <nomasteryoda> baxter_kylie, you can put it into run-level 3 if you want... or 5
[06:05] <ubotu> gconf2: GNOME configuration database system (support tools). In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.0-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 127 kB, installed size 276 kB
[06:05] <alexander> nomasteryoda, ive actually never seen that expression. what is it called in the world of Linux?
[06:05] <bruenig> is that what it is? gconf2?
[06:05] <crimsun> !info libgconf2.0-cil
[06:05] <ubotu> libgconf2.0-cil: CLI binding for GConf 2.16. In component main, is optional. Version 2.16.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 125 kB, installed size 292 kB
[06:05] <KakarottoCL> I would appreciate somebody to help me with 6.10 installation
[06:05] <bimberi> amax: argh, my apologies, it's gnome-sharp2 (D'Oh!)
[06:05] <nomasteryoda> alexander, googling...
[06:05] <amax> hm..
[06:05] <bimberi> !info gnome-sharp2
[06:05] <ubotu> gnome-sharp2: Gnome# 2.10 suite, CLI bindings for Gnome. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.16.0-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 114 kB, installed size 148 kB
[06:05] <amax> wait.. checking
[06:05] <nomasteryoda> KakarottoCL, we're here and trying
[06:05] <amax> why the stupid name..
[06:05] <alexander> nomasteryoda, ty ty
[06:06] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: Are you at a terminal prompt righ now?
[06:06] <amax> gnome-sharp == gconf-sharp ? hm
[06:06] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: nope, its the same computer that i'm chatting on
[06:06] <crimsun> amax: no.
[06:06] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: i would have to restart in order to try anything with the CD
[06:07] <Hansin321> teenprogrammer: I just downloaded Xming and installed.  Looks very cool.  It is based off of the 6.9 code branch of the Xorg server and appears to be actively developed and updated .  It doesn't appear to take too many resources either.
[06:07] <bimberi> amax: there's also gtk-sharp and gtk-sharp2, but no gconf.  Looks like it isn't there.
[06:07] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: You could try the alternate installer.
[06:07] <KakarottoCL> how do I load it?
[06:07] <teenprogrammer> ok
[06:07] <teenprogrammer> cool!
[06:07] <amax> bimberi: I think ew need to create new one..
[06:07] <teenprogrammer> Hasin321 does it go on my server?
[06:08] <amax> to many softfware for mono uses this binding.
[06:08] <Hansin321> teenprogrammer: I meant to also add (before I mistakingly kit my return key): http://www.straightrunning.com/XmingNotes/
[06:08] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: You need to download a different CD.
[06:08] <orville> nomasteryoda: thanks. looks like i was putting it in the right place after all.
[06:08] <jrattner> Question:  When I start up my computer I get the follow error: bcm43xx_microcode5.fw  I think its my wireless card?
[06:08] <teenprogrammer> thanks
[06:08] <Healot> teenprogrammer: book title?
[06:08] <amax> hm.. who is committer for mono packages ?
[06:08] <Hansin321> teenprogrammer: http://sourceforge.net/projects/xming
[06:08] <jrattner> i mean, [17180843.288000]  bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available or load failed.
[06:08] <Healot> amax: people from Novell?
[06:09] <JDStone1> is google.com working for anyone?
[06:09] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: damn.. i wouldn't like to do that.. i lost two cd's and a dvd because i though they were missburned, but i then runned the CD check option from the menu and it said its fine..
[06:09] <amax> Healot: committer to ubuntu repos
[06:09] <teenprogrammer> google works
[06:09] <JDStone1> hmm
[06:10] <Healot> amax: read the package description then
[06:10] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: Did you get an error or a blank screen?
[06:10] <JDStone1> my piece of shit internet
[06:10] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: just a blank screen
[06:10] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: i wasn't even able to do alt+ctrl+f1 or so
[06:10] <amax> so we have missed gconf-sharp2.. pity
[06:11] <Hansin321> teenprogrammer: This is the download site (see the other one also).  You want to download the Xming installer and install like any other Windows program on your Windows box.  As far as how you would run programs off of youLinux box on have them display on the Windows X-Server, well I'm not too good at that yet.  But dig around and see what you can learn.  I can tell you that Xming looks good...
[06:11] <Hansin321> ...-- I have run the X-Server off of Cygwin and this is cool that it is stand-alone.  Cygwin is cool also for other reasons...
[06:11] <daviddixon> so why does mplayer require lindirectfb-9.22 and all i can install is 9.24????
[06:11] <josephoenix> So... I read on the forums that vlc in edgy has vc1/wmv9 support linked in, but my wmv9 avis don't play :\
[06:11] <teenprogrammer> ok
[06:11] <teenprogrammer> thanks!
[06:12] <teenprogrammer> I will install XMin
[06:12] <teenprogrammer> g
[06:12] <bimberi> amax: Ubuntu's mono packages have "Ubuntu Core Developers <ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com>" as the maintainer
[06:12] <DeltaF> anyone know how to start evms gui?
[06:12] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: How intent are you in not burning another CD?
[06:12] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: How safe is the alternative installer? is it graphicless?
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> KakarottoCL, works very well
[06:13] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: It is perfectly safe, it is also text based, so yes.
[06:13] <nomasteryoda> and is just the same, but text-based
[06:13] <teenprogrammer> brb
[06:14] <teenprogrammer> have to boot into windows
[06:14] <KakarottoCL> ain't any way to use it with the original cd ?
[06:14] <urmom> hey guys i was thinking of trying ubuntu, i currently have fedora core 6 and i want to dual boot, If i install ubuntu on my empty partition will grub work with both of them out of the box?
[06:14] <sethk> KakarottoCL, it's a curses type interface, if you're familiar with that
[06:14] <sethk> KakarottoCL, it's completely safe
[06:14] <sethk> KakarottoCL, with the current release of ubuntu, and also the immediately preceding release, the text mode install is on the alternate cd
[06:14] <nomasteryoda> and does not boot into live cd mode...that makes the installer less intensive for older computers
[06:15] <KakarottoCL> btw, it seem to be a common bug with Radeon cards..
[06:15] <sethk> KakarottoCL, earlier versions had text and graphical install on the same cd
[06:15] <KakarottoCL> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/67487
[06:15] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: It is hard to tell what problem you are having, there are a few things you could try but it's sort of a stab in the dark.
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> but if you have it online in 6.01, then you can do a dist-upgrae
[06:15] <sethk> nomasteryoda, yes, not to mention those machine where the graphical installer simply won't work.
[06:15] <splintax> favourite thing about ubuntu so far: the "adjust volume" dialog comes up straight away when you click it in the systray. heh.
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> but if you have it online in 6.01, then you can do a dist-upgrade
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> ya
[06:15] <nomasteryoda> like sony 505 series
[06:16] <KakarottoCL> did you both saw the link ?
[06:16] <urmom> so uhh thanks for not helping me guys.,.
[06:16] <sethk> splintax, that's configurable.  (well, not in windows, but in all the varieties of linux and unix)
[06:16] <sethk> urmom, I just got here, what's your question?
[06:16] <KakarottoCL> it seems that other people have had the same problem than me.. look the link i posted before
[06:16] <nomasteryoda> KakarottoCL, hang on
[06:16] <splintax> sethk: in windows there's some bullshit 5 second delay before the thing 'loads'
[06:17] <splintax> sethk: it's buggy as hell, and has been since 295
[06:17] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: Did any of them try disabling boot splash?
[06:17] <splintax> **w95
[06:17] <sethk> splintax, yes, true.
[06:17] <urmom> sethk, it doesn't matter anymore, a fedora guy helped me out
[06:17] <sethk> urmom, ok
[06:17] <baxter_kylie> jordan_ & nomasteryoda: No dice. The disc is simply not mounted.
[06:18] <baxter_kylie> jordan_ & nomasteryoda: If the os believes there is a physical disc within the drive it seems to error.
[06:19] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: i'm still reading.. no solution yet
[06:19] <tarelerul1> I just got my screen configed the way it should be
[06:20] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: It seems sombody tried my solution and it worked.
[06:20] <nomasteryoda> KakarottoCL, do you have the 6.01 installed on it?
[06:20] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: The new high resolution boot splash in edgy doesn't do whell on newer machines and screw up the tty's
[06:21] <TMX> or on mac
[06:21] <TMX> completely crashes the boot process
[06:21] <TMX> arg stupid  key
[06:21] <factotum> yeah, im pretty happy sticking with 6.06 for a while
[06:21] <factotum> had to many little problems that just got annoying
[06:22] <jordan_> TMX: I am on a macbook pro and it only screws up my tty's
[06:22] <nomasteryoda> using it here.. but edgy on my laptops
[06:22] <factotum> with Edgy anyways
[06:22] <TMX> jordan_: macbook non-pro here :)
[06:22] <TMX> on the crappy i810 intel graphics
[06:23] <nomasteryoda> TMX, my intel chipset works fine... on a dell
[06:23] <nomasteryoda> =D
[06:23] <nomasteryoda> even beryl works perfect
[06:23] <KakarottoCL> if it is a resolution problem, isn't it fixable?
[06:23] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: What you need to do is when the first menu shows up choose custom ( or whatever it is called ) and delete the word "splash" you should be able to get to a console, from there I have more instructions that might help get X up and running.
[06:23] <teenprogrammer> gmm
[06:23] <teenprogrammer> hmmm*
[06:23] <TMX> beryl works fine
[06:24] <boni> how do make a boot cd frm an iso image can anyone help me with it??
[06:24] <TMX> KakarottoCL, haven got a clue what the problem is, couldn even hazard a guess
[06:24] <teenprogrammer> hwo do i setup xming?
[06:24] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: are those instructions relative to change the driver to "vesa"?
[06:24] <factotum> the one problem i STILL have is wolfenstien ET, starts up in a window and really really laggy/choppy
[06:24] <nomasteryoda> KakarottoCL, yes that should work... remove quiet and splash
[06:24] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: No, completely seperate.
[06:24] <sethk> boni, is you are in windows, you have to use a program that knows how to write an iso image to a cd.  Nero can do this.  There are free programs available that can do this.
[06:24] <KakarottoCL> i'm guessing the problem is about a 1400x1050 resolution, isn't it?
[06:25] <nomasteryoda> nope
[06:25] <sethk> boni, windows itself, I'm told, cannot do it, at least "out of the box."
[06:25] <nomasteryoda> my laptop has that and is fine
[06:25] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: Actually it is about newer BIOS's.
[06:25] <nomasteryoda> i think it's the video card setup... in the bios
[06:25] <KakarottoCL> how could i try to fix it by the nice way?
[06:25] <nomasteryoda> http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=751&slide=4&title=ubuntu+6.10+screenshots
[06:25] <sethk> KakarottoCL, there is no problem using 1400x1050 with ubuntu, if (of course) the graphics adapter and monitor support it.
[06:25] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: What do you mean "nice way" ?
[06:25] <nomasteryoda> you should press F6
[06:26] <TMX> I sure itl be fixed by
[06:26] <nomasteryoda> on the installer
[06:26] <KakarottoCL> I mean without altering the Xorg config
[06:26] <jrib> Where would be the right location for documentation about /etc/environment?  Specifcally, the use of $LANGUAGE
[06:26] <TMX> i'm sure it'll be fixed by 7.4 anyway :D
[06:26] <KakarottoCL> hahahahah
[06:26] <nomasteryoda> KakarottoCL, when it is installed it will work...
[06:26] <nomasteryoda> just edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and remove "splash"
[06:26] <boni> sethk: No I dont use windows I use Dapper I know its using cdrecord but I am not sure can you give me a link or help me out how to use cdrecord??
[06:27] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: The instructions I will give will install the fglrx drivers from the command line, but there is no manual xorg editing required.
[06:27] <KakarottoCL> but what i'm supposed to do after the X hangs again? (having the loader without the quiet and splash lines)?
[06:27] <kuzmaster> hey all
[06:27] <sethk> boni, with an iso file, on my box, I just use     cdrecord -vv iso-file-name
[06:27] <sethk> boni, the -vv just makes it talk more as it burns
[06:27] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: ok, i won't interrupt you, go ahead
[06:27] <nomasteryoda> without the splash, it won't hang...
[06:27] <jordan_> nomasteryoda: But X will still fail.
[06:27] <sethk> boni, On my ubuntu boxes the sym link to the cd writer is set up automatically during install, so that cdrecord "just works"
[06:27] <nomasteryoda> ok
[06:28] <sethk> boni, if your cd writer was installed when you installed ubuntu, that should be true for you as well.
[06:28] <nomasteryoda> guys, that is an old laptop
[06:28] <sethk> boni, try it.  The worst thing that can happen is that it won't work.
[06:29] <boni> sethk: Thanx but dont you need to give the device id by finding it from scanbus??
[06:29] <sethk> boni, no
[06:29] <asparagui> how long till fiesty knot 1?
[06:29] <nomasteryoda> i have a latitude from 2005 and its fine...
[06:29] <sethk> boni, because the default is to use the symlink to the cd writer
[06:29] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: so?
[06:29] <sethk> boni, you can override the default, of course, but there usually is no need to.
[06:29] <Flannel> asparagui: Feisty Herd 1 is set for Nov 30ish - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule
[06:30] <teenprogrammer> i am not getting Xming to work
[06:30] <boni> sethk: Ok I will try it out I guess my default will work as well
[06:30] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: I am going to pastebin the instructions when I am done, unless you want to here it step by step as I go, which is fine too.
[06:30] <nomasteryoda> http://www.geocities.com/acarirfan/inspiron-1150.html
[06:30] <nomasteryoda> is that not your laptop?
[06:30] <sethk> boni, give it a try.  older versions of cdrecord weren't quite so smart, but recent versions usually work this way.
[06:30] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: yeah I would like the step by step
[06:30] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: i'll go taking note along the way
[06:30] <kuzmaster> what is the terminal comma for opening a text file
[06:31] <sethk> boni, and of course you can always use scanbus to figure out the device.  but you have to use an option with scanbus to tell it you want the IDE mode, not the scsi emulation mode, and the syntax is a bit odd.
[06:31] <kuzmaster> such as opening my sources.list files
[06:31] <nomasteryoda> kuzmaster, nano filename
[06:31] <kuzmaster> thanx
[06:31] <nomasteryoda> kuzmaster, or vi filename
[06:31] <sethk> kuzmaster, more, less, vi, nano, emacs, lots of options
[06:31] <nomasteryoda> sudo if you want to save it...
[06:31] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: First run: sudo software-properties -e restriced
[06:32] <nomasteryoda> sudo nano filename... nano is easier to understand kuzmaster
[06:33] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: Sorry, my DNS resolutions are taking 10 + seconds so googleing for specifics like package names is taking a while.
[06:33] <teenprogrammer> how do i setup ftp on an ubuntu server?
[06:34] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: ok, don't worry.. I would thank anything you do for me, no matter how long it takes
[06:34] <asparagui> flannel: k, thx.
[06:34] <KakarottoCL> nomasteryoda: do you know how do this guy uses these windows-like fonts in this screenshot?? http://img74.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pantallazo7fe.png
[06:35] <nomasteryoda> sure
[06:35] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: Then: sudo apt-get update then: sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-generic xorg-driver-fglrx
[06:36] <kuzmaster> grrrrrrrr.........
[06:36] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: i do that in the console after X crash?
[06:36] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: Then: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh ( choose fglrx when asked what driver to use )
[06:36] <nomasteryoda> KakarottoCL,  sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[06:37] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: Yes.
[06:37] <kuzmaster> oops
[06:37] <kuzmaster> sudo fixes all
[06:37] <nomasteryoda> =D
[06:37] <kuzmaster> ;)
[06:37] <teenprogrammer> so is setting up ftp on ubuntu easy?
[06:37] <kissfire> hellow !
[06:37] <bimberi> !ftp
[06:38] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> kissfire, howdy
[06:38] <teenprogrammer> ftp host
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> wow, 899KB/sec dl
[06:38] <jordan_> Then: "sudo gdm" and everything should work, should being the imparative word ;)
[06:38] <sethk> teenprogrammer, they are all ftp hosts
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> man, smokin
[06:38] <kuzmaster> anyway, does ubuntu have a wifi utility like kubutu does?
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> gnome-network-manager... install that kuzmaster
[06:38] <jordan_> kuzmaster: Yes, network-manager-gnome
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> yea, that
[06:38] <nomasteryoda> oops
[06:38] <shrndegruv> hey im thinking of trying ubuntu -- been using gentoo for a while
[06:39] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: i'm taking note :D
[06:39] <kuzmaster> thanx
[06:39] <shrndegruv> was wondering what people recommended for fs type and starting partitions
[06:39] <sethk> teenprogrammer, the reason there are so many is that the FTP protocol itself is a disaster, from a security perspective, and there are many attempts to ammeliorate this, with varying degrees of success.
[06:39] <nomasteryoda> ext3 is my preference
[06:39] <charle97> i like rieserfs
[06:39] <sethk> teenprogrammer, sftp, secure ftp, is better.  However, it is frequently necessary to support ftp for file downloading
[06:39] <shrndegruv> also dapper or 6.10
[06:39] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: Now the other thing is that you will need to be connected to the internet so be hard wired just to make things easier.
[06:40] <nomasteryoda> i used to do /boot "/" and "/home"... and swap
[06:40] <charle97> 6.10
[06:40] <nomasteryoda> now i just do root, home and swap
[06:40] <bimberi> ext3, with "/" and swap
[06:40] <shrndegruv> thats what i usually do nomasteryoda
[06:40] <shrndegruv> should i add any others?
[06:40] <nomasteryoda> if you want
[06:40] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: Now try it and I hope the next time you come back it will be from the LiveCD :)
[06:40] <sethk> there is really not significant advantage to having more than one partition.
[06:40] <shrndegruv> well is there a practical reason to?
[06:40] <spiderworm> anyone know if there's something i can put into a /usr/share/xsessions/ file to disable DPMS for that session type?
[06:40] <nomasteryoda> but not necessary depends on your drive space...
[06:40] <shrndegruv> gentoo recommends a partition for the portage system
[06:40] <shrndegruv> for example
[06:40] <sethk> shrndegruv, no. hasn't been for quite a few years
[06:40] <nomasteryoda> say for apache
[06:41] <shrndegruv> is there an equivalent on ubuntu
[06:41] <sethk> shrndegruv, that's gentoo nonsense
[06:41] <bimberi> 6.10 has been good for me
[06:41] <nomasteryoda> put the var on separate
[06:41] <sethk> shrndegruv, is there a package manager?  yes, dpkg
[06:41] <shrndegruv> nono
[06:41] <sethk> shrndegruv, but there is no reason to devote a partition to that, or to portage or anything of that sort
[06:41] <shrndegruv> is there an ubuntu specific reason to have other than /boot / and /home
[06:41] <shrndegruv> and /swap
[06:41] <charle97> no
[06:41] <sethk> shrndegruv, there is no reason to have separate /boot and /home
[06:41] <shrndegruv> ok
[06:41] <charle97> shrndevgruv, conventional linux setup
[06:42] <nomasteryoda> shrndegruv, if you've done gentoo, this will be a breeze
[06:42] <sethk> shrndegruv, /swap is a different animal, although many machines these days have so much memory that the swap is never really used.
[06:42] <shrndegruv> how much swap for a gig of ram?
[06:42] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: thousands of thanks for you, dude.. I hope so too.. I will reconnect in a few minutes to tell you the results, hope you're still online then
[06:42] <bimberi> shrndegruv: nope, "/" and swap is just what the installer does and has been good for me
[06:42] <nomasteryoda> swap is used for resume from hibernate
[06:42] <charle97> shrndevgruv, 1 gig swap
[06:42] <sethk> shrndegruv, the idea that the amount of ram indicates some amount of swap is about 25 years old and 15 years out of date
[06:42] <shrndegruv> well i want to keep /home separate in case reinstlal needed
[06:42] <sethk> shrndegruv, you probably need no swap at all.
[06:42] <nomasteryoda> good idea
[06:42] <shrndegruv> yes this is a laptop
[06:42] <bimberi> shrndegruv: and that's fine
[06:42] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: I will be, then we will need to make sure it will work on the install too :)
[06:42] <charle97> shrndevgrux, you probably can get away with 500MB
[06:42] <shrndegruv> so will need to resume from hibernate
[06:42] <sethk> shrndegruv, having /home separate does not make reinstalling easier, or more difficult.  the /home partition can always be renamed
[06:43] <KakarottoCL> yeah :D
[06:43] <nomasteryoda> shrndegruv, having a swap for the hibernate function is good though
[06:43] <gyaresu> charle97, stop making up numbers about RAM.
[06:43] <sethk> shrndegruv, and having a separate /home reduces flexibility.  but I suppose it won't really hurt too much.
[06:43] <shrndegruv> yeah but so i dont lose all my data files sethk
[06:43] <KakarottoCL> well, getting offline for now.. i will try all this ^^
[06:43] <KakarottoCL> cya!
[06:43] <shrndegruv> music vids etc
[06:43] <nomasteryoda> shrndegruv, note, the Ubuntu edgy now uses UUID instead of conventional /dev/hdx
[06:43] <sethk> shrndegruv, you wouldn't lose all your data files.  that's the whole point.
[06:43] <nomasteryoda> in the fstab
[06:43] <charle97> gyaresu, i'm basing my numbers off my experience
[06:43] <shrndegruv> really?
[06:43] <sethk> shrndegruv, you don't need a separate /home partition to not lose your data files.
[06:43] <nomasteryoda> ya
[06:43] <shrndegruv> uisually on install they reformat the partitions
[06:43] <sethk> shrndegruv, not unless you tell them to
[06:44] <gyaresu> charle97, with 2GB of ram eh? You needed swap did you ?
[06:44] <nomasteryoda> ya, ubuntu is safer
[06:44] <charle97> gyaresu, no
[06:44] <sethk> shrndegruv, I rename all my directories, do an install, then I have my entire old system and my entire new system.
[06:44] <shrndegruv> i see seth
[06:44] <sethk> shrndegruv, carying over an older /home, or a /home from a different distro, almost always causes nasty problems.
[06:44] <shrndegruv> cool -- so for resume from hibernate i need at least as much swap as ram?
[06:44] <sethk> charle97, I would be willing to bet a lot that your swap has never been used.
[06:45] <sethk> shrndegruv, no, hibernate doesn't use swap
[06:45] <shrndegruv> ok
[06:45] <charle97> sethk, in ubuntu it has
[06:45] <shrndegruv> goodie
[06:45] <gyaresu> sethk, shrndegruv I just kept my home partition from (2yrs install) of gentoo. hosed the rest and installed ubuntu. nothing bad happened.
[06:45] <charle97> sethk, in slackware no
[06:45] <sethk> shrndegruv, hibernate can't use swap; if it did, you wouldn't be able to swap.
[06:45] <sethk> shrndegruv, swap is only needed to extend memory.
[06:45] <shrndegruv> ok so ill do 500mb swap
[06:45] <shrndegruv> i only have 20 gigs
[06:45] <shrndegruv> so i want to minimize stuff like that
[06:45] <nomasteryoda> er, on mine my resume partition is my swap..
[06:46] <sethk> shrndegruv, remember, you can add swap space in the normal file system, should you ever actually need swap
[06:46] <nomasteryoda> that is what last ubuntu used
[06:46] <shrndegruv> from what i understand ubuntu brings in compile binaries right??
[06:46] <sethk> shrndegruv, it's much slower that way, but since it probably won't be used, the speed doesn't matter much.
[06:46] <sethk> shrndegruv, correct
[06:46] <teenprogrammer> i just installed vsftpd
[06:46] <sethk> shrndegruv, you can install source if you like, but that's not the usual thing to do.
[06:46] <shrndegruv> right
[06:46] <sethk> teenprogrammer, ok, that's a good choice.
[06:46] <shrndegruv> for things like mozilla id prefer bins
[06:46] <shrndegruv> updating a gentoo system is a pain ;)
[06:46] <sethk> shrndegruv, and you don't have to compile for three days.  :)
[06:47] <shrndegruv> plus i like to try new things
[06:47] <shrndegruv> if i got xgl going on gentoo should be able to handle it on gentoo
[06:47] <shrndegruv> i mean ubuntu
[06:47] <sethk> shrndegruv, sure.
[06:47] <teenprogrammer> how do i configure vsftpd?
[06:47] <gyaresu> teenprogrammer, man vsftpd
[06:47] <sethk> shrndegruv, I have four different distros installed on various machines.  The only one I obliterated is gentoo.  :)
[06:47] <jordan_> shrndegruv: I tried to get XGL working in gentoo, that was a nightmare.
[06:47] <shrndegruv> beryl wont work with ati, correct?
[06:47] <gyaresu> teenprogrammer, specific questions are better than generic ones.
[06:48] <teenprogrammer> ok
[06:48] <teenprogrammer> lol
[06:48] <jordan_> shrndegruv: Yes, it will work.
[06:48] <teenprogrammer> sorry :/
[06:48] <shrndegruv> i like gentoo seth ;)
[06:48] <shrndegruv> just want to try new things
[06:48] <shrndegruv> and want easier updating on my laptop
[06:48] <sethk> shrndegruv, I know, a lot of people do.  Go figure.  :)
[06:48] <sethk> shrndegruv, I've found ubuntu to be excellent on laptops, has good wireless support
[06:48] <shrndegruv> its great if you want a highly configurable system
[06:48] <nomasteryoda> and deb repos are super
[06:48] <sethk> shrndegruv, every linux system is precisely as configurable as any other.
[06:48] <shrndegruv> not if you want a highly usable and up to date system
[06:48] <shrndegruv> ;)
[06:49] <britt> if i have a non-ht p4, which kernel do i use?
[06:49] <shrndegruv> sure
[06:49] <sethk> britt, i486, I think
[06:49] <shrndegruv> but if i am going to configure a ton of use flags in ubuntu, i have to get the source and go thru the config
[06:49] <morphish> britt: generic, everyone uses generic, unless you build your own
[06:49] <sethk> britt, maybe 686, I have to check.
[06:49] <sethk> morphir, there's a 686 kernel in the repos.
[06:49] <morphish> shrndegruv: "use flags" is a very gentoo centric way of thinking
[06:50] <shrndegruv> true
[06:50] <shrndegruv> habit
[06:50] <shrndegruv> ;)
[06:50] <sethk> morphir, some people use it.  I have found the performance difference is about zero, though
[06:50] <morphir> huh?
[06:50] <morphish> shrndegruv: try www.sourcemage.org not gentoo and still sourcebased, and no they have no use flags either
[06:50] <morphish> morphir: he means me
[06:50] <spiderworm> anyone know if there's something i can put into a /usr/share/xsessions/ file to disable DPMS for that session type?
[06:50] <sethk> shrndegruv, I do build from source in certain cases, when I need to.  I don't need the package manager to do it, though.
[06:51] <morphir> I understand that :D
[06:51] <britt> yeah the 686 kernel
[06:51] <britt> there are 2 of them
[06:51] <sethk> morphir, sorry if I tab completed you by mistake.  :)
[06:51] <shrndegruv> so 6.10 or 6.0.6
[06:51] <morphish> i think this is a cue and i should go build me a kernel here now
[06:51] <shrndegruv> ?
[06:51] <charle97> 6.10
[06:51] <jordan_> shrndegruv: 6.10
[06:51] <shrndegruv> im weary of the upstart stuff
[06:51] <sethk> morphish, I build kernels all the time.  but that's because I port linux to embedded hardware for a living.  :)
[06:51] <LGKeiz-Windows> 6.10 -> 6.06 personall
[06:51] <LGKeiz-Windows> y
[06:51] <shrndegruv> is it much different from init?
[06:51] <sethk> shrndegruv, init isn't gentoo specific.
[06:52] <jordan_> shrndegruv: It is backwards compatable.
[06:52] <LGKeiz-Windows> Edgy is freaking quick and I love the new login screen and things like that
[06:52] <shrndegruv> i know
[06:52] <shrndegruv> but 6.06 uses init right?
[06:52] <morphish> shrndegruv: 6.10 if your test new / is on a logical partition scrape the Desktop CD download and start a alternative cd download (textinstaller)
[06:52] <shrndegruv> 6.10 upstart
[06:52] <shrndegruv> i didnt understand that morphish
[06:52] <Akuma_> what's a 'dependency package' ?
[06:52] <morphish> sethk: then how come you are not in #gentoo-embedded? ;)
[06:52] <KakarottoCL> hey
[06:53] <sethk> morphish, because I know what I'm doing, I don't need gentoo.
[06:53] <jordan_> shrndegruv: And if you have an intel or Nvidia graphics card setting up beryl + AIGLX is serioulsy a few mintues of simple setup.
[06:53] <sethk> morphish, if you do want an embedded distro, look at snapgear
[06:53] <KakarottoCL> jordan_
[06:53] <shrndegruv> gentoo seems like a distro to use only if you know what you are doing
[06:53] <shrndegruv> :|
[06:53] <gyaresu> Akuma_, You're missing a requirement for the  package you are attempting to install.
[06:53] <KakarottoCL> it didn't work :(
[06:53] <KakarottoCL> wait
[06:53] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: Did you get to a terminal prompt at least?
[06:53] <shrndegruv> ati jordan :(
[06:54] <morphish> shrndegruv: if your / is not a primary partition the installer will not work, is all i meant
[06:54] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: it didn't work for me.. the system hangs up with and without the "quiet splash" line
[06:54] <shrndegruv> oh fudge i dont know
[06:54] <shrndegruv> that could be an issue
[06:55] <morphish> sethk: i find gentoo to be a nice distro to build a rootfs with (then again i don't do it for a living) but i have not found any other distro to be so easy for building a rootfs (from a cross compile point of view) as gentoo
[06:55] <Akuma_> gyaresu: acutally, i'm not getting it as an error, i'm just wondering what it means, it sometimes says 'this package is a dependency package' in the description section .. i'm just curious. and google didnt satisfy my curiosity.
[06:55] <sethk> morphish, have you looked at snapgear?
[06:55] <teenprogrammer> trying to be a bit mroe specific ... xD ... Shouldnt the apache2 folder be /usr/local/www/data ?
[06:55] <nomasteryoda> KakarottoCL, i tried to ask... DO you have the Ubuntu 6.01 disk?.... can't you try to upgrade from that install?
[06:55] <morphish> sethk: nope, as a matter of fact, you are the first to mention it
[06:55] <dope> i can't seem to control the bass of my audio.  the bass slider doesn't do anything.  can someone suggest something?
[06:55] <gyaresu> Akuma_, Specifically I don't know. I assume it's a library or similar.
[06:56] <nomasteryoda> teenprogrammer, nope... /var/
[06:56] <teenprogrammer> to store my website files?
[06:56] <KakarottoCL> nomasteryoda: i have the 6.06 disc, does it works in anyway to upgrade?
[06:56] <nomasteryoda> down under there teenprogrammer
[06:56] <sethk> morphish, it's worth a look if you do embedded stuff, or even if you are interested in embedded stuff.
[06:56] <shrndegruv> how long does it take to install ubuntu?
[06:56] <morphish> sethk: and ever since my usb2 enclosure died the nslu2 is more of a toy now, before it served anything i needed, should i revive it and not sell it (like i plan on doing right now) i will checkout snapgear
[06:56] <charle97> 30 minutes
[06:56] <charle97> for me
[06:56] <nomasteryoda> shrndegruv, ya
[06:56] <jordan_> shrndegruv: 10 min.
[06:56] <nomasteryoda> faster pc, 10 min
[06:56] <shrndegruv> i dont believe you jordan :)
[06:57] <sethk> shrndegruv, depends on the hardware of course, but it takes me around 20 minutes, end to end.
[06:57] <nomasteryoda> no really
[06:57] <jordan_> shrndegruv: You will.
[06:57] <nomasteryoda> i've done it on 2 newer dells
[06:57] <shrndegruv> 1.5 ghz pentium something
[06:57] <charlie5> !swap
[06:57] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[06:57] <morphish> shrndegruv: guess, 30-45 was somewhere in tthat time fram on this duron 1.3ghz
[06:57] <nomasteryoda> !tell KakarottoCL about upgrade
[06:57] <shrndegruv> alright i try it now;)
[06:57] <charlie5> sorry ... shoulda priv mess'g that
[06:57] <nomasteryoda> !upgrade
[06:57] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[06:57] <shrndegruv> lemme find the 6.10 disk
[06:58] <shrndegruv> can i go from 6.10 to 6.06 if i want?
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> yes
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> slower, butyes
[06:58] <morphish> shrndegruv: not supported
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> i did it fine...
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> had to on an old laptop
[06:58] <shrndegruv> my laptop is pretty fast
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> was only way to get here...
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> good
[06:58] <shrndegruv> not blazing but never had a problem with it
[06:58] <morphish> nomasteryoda: not that i tried it, but the official stance is it is not suppported afaik
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> right
[06:58] <nomasteryoda> i know
[06:59] <jordan_> !downgrade
[06:59] <ubotu> Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported, and may break your system.
[06:59] <morphish> nomasteryoda: wifi issues?
[06:59] <nomasteryoda> i'm on my own anyway...nope
[06:59] <nomasteryoda> perfect
[06:59] <shrndegruv> will it handle X stuff in the install?
[06:59] <jordan_> shrndegruv: yup
[06:59] <morphish> nomasteryoda: no i meant what made you downgrade
[06:59] <nomasteryoda> but i have to enter my password to get into my own secured wifi
[06:59] <splintax> How can I move GRUB to a different hard disk?
[06:59] <nomasteryoda> and that is ok
[06:59] <shrndegruv> will i be able to read my windows partitions by default?
[06:59] <nomasteryoda> morphish, i did not downgrade... did upgrade
[06:59] <morphish> shrndegruv: yes
[06:59] <gyaresu> splintax, 'sudo grub-install /dev/otherhdd
[06:59] <nomasteryoda> 6.01 >6.10
[06:59] <shrndegruv> sweeeeeeet
[07:00] <shrndegruv> its going
[07:00] <morphish> nomasteryoda: ohhhh <shrndegruv> can i go from 6.10 to 6.06 if i want? <nomasteryoda> yes
[07:00] <nomasteryoda> shrndegruv, you will be very happy with it...
[07:00] <splintax> gyaresu: and is there something i need to do to deinstall it from the disk it's currently on
[07:00] <shrndegruv> figure its now or never
[07:00] <shrndegruv> now for getting software
[07:00] <nomasteryoda> er, nope... not done that before morphir
[07:00] <nomasteryoda> sh
[07:00] <nomasteryoda> oops
[07:00] <KakarottoCL> nomasteryoda: I have the desktop, not the install cd
[07:00] <nomasteryoda> ok
[07:00] <shrndegruv> does it detect your settings (like cpu) and download appropriately, or just get x86 compatible bins?
[07:00] <KakarottoCL> nomasteryoda: and i have no intentions to download another one
[07:01] <gyaresu> splintax, no. just make the other drive the first to boot. (you can DD the first 513KB but lets not get into that)
[07:01] <KakarottoCL> it would help to get the console working
[07:01] <nomasteryoda> KakarottoCL, no if you have 6.01 it has the installer onit
[07:01] <morphish> shrndegruv: x86 bins for you, the exact optimization i am not sure about
[07:01] <KakarottoCL> if just were a way to stop GDM loading
[07:01] <nomasteryoda> for that version
[07:01] <nomasteryoda> sure
[07:01] <teenprogrammer> how cna i see all the daemons running?
[07:01] <splintax> gyaresu: how do i know what 'otherhdd' should be? i think it's sda1, but i'm not sure.
[07:01] <nomasteryoda> change it to init3
[07:01] <nomasteryoda> just sec
[07:01] <splintax> gyaresu: i want to install to the disk that holds the partition linux is currently installed on
[07:01] <shrndegruv> taking a while to ask me anything, the instlal is...
[07:01] <gyaresu> splintax, 'fdisk -l'
[07:01] <KakarottoCL> nomasteryoda: yes but i have the 6.06 which, as the website tells, has it by separate
[07:02] <Olathe> How do I get the kernel for the K7 architecture installed and usable ?  I already have the linux-image-k7 package, but k7 isn't in grub.
[07:02] <teenprogrammer> nvm
[07:02] <Thanos> hi guys i have a noob problem can someone help me out?
[07:02] <gyaresu> splintax, the disk NOT the partition (hda,sda,sdd... whatever)
[07:02] <splintax> gyaresu: thanks
[07:02] <morphish> KakarottoCL: the desktop cd has a Install icon on desktop
[07:02] <splintax> gyaresu: that explains a lot as well
[07:02] <charle97> thanos, just ask
[07:02] <bimberi> Olathe: edgy?
[07:02] <gyaresu> splintax, your questions are good :)
[07:02] <Olathe> bimberi: Yep.
[07:03] <nomasteryoda> Thanos, ask away
[07:03] <bimberi> !linux-image-k7
[07:03] <ubotu> linux-image-k7: Obsoleted by: linux-image-generic. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[07:03] <shrndegruv> wow
[07:03] <splintax> gyaresu: so sda means the first SATA, sdb would be the second SATA, and sda1 sda2 and sda3 would be the partitions on sda
[07:03] <shrndegruv> it plays music
[07:03] <morphish> woot, apt knows ketchup!
[07:03] <shrndegruv> i guess that means my soundcard will work by default
[07:03] <charle97> slintax, yes
[07:03] <bimberi> Olathe: linux-image-k7 - "Obsoleted by: linux-image-generic"
[07:03] <nomasteryoda> lol
[07:03] <morphish> shrndegruv: it is a one size fits all kernel, if it's supported by linux, chances are the module i built for you
[07:03] <splintax> gyaresu: thanks. i do support on other channels for windows and some software, so i know how much of a PITA it is supporting people who can't be arsed learning what they're doing anyway. i'm also a general windows consultant person
[07:03] <splintax> charle97: thanks.
[07:04] <Thanos> well i have just installed unbuntu 6.06 and i can ping the lan and websites but i can't see them
[07:04] <bimberi> Olathe: so there won't be an new grub entry created.  you would have -generic already
[07:04] <Olathe> Alright.  What is the proper method of getting the K7 kernel working ?
[07:04] <KakarottoCL> morphish:i just can't reach the desktop, the system hangs when X starts up
[07:04] <splintax> back in a bit, rebooting
[07:04] <KakarottoCL> I need to stop X loading in the live cd !
[07:04] <charle97> top
[07:04] <charle97> oops
[07:05] <teenprogrammer> where is the apache2 config file?
[07:05] <bimberi> teenprogrammer: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default
[07:06] <morphish> KakarottoCL: just on the mneu check options, i have not needed it, but most livecd come with a option to not boot X,<nomasteryoda> change it to init3
[07:06] <morphish> maybe that was for you
[07:06] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: If you want to be really adventurous you could try entering the commands I gave you and hope they work :)
[07:06] <gyaresu> teenprogrammer, man httpd.conf
[07:07] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: which ones? I can't get the console working!!
[07:07] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: THere is a chance that you just can't see it.
[07:07] <shrndegruv> if i have 20gb and am going to have a separate /home, how much should i give home and root
[07:07] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: even without "quiet splash", the X tries to start and then the whole system hangs.. I can't do ctrl+alt+f1 or any tty..
[07:08] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: what is that chance?
[07:08] <Thanos> :/
[07:08] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: please enlight my way!
[07:08] <gyaresu> shrndegruv, I'm using 5.6GB of / and have many progs installed
[07:08] <shrndegruv> guys how much do i  need to give root to have plenty of room for all the apps i could wnat
[07:08] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: I did it a few times when my tty's wouldn't show up.
[07:08] <crass> does anyone know the line I need to put into the sources.list to access the debian unstable repository?
[07:08] <gyaresu> shrndegruv, I have fluxbox && kde installed but no gnome.
[07:09] <shrndegruv> im going to use gnome (compiz) and e17
[07:09] <Ayabara> I have a problem the someone told me is common. After I have been in xp, grub won't work. Is there a patch/solution to this?
[07:09] <gyaresu> !repos > crass
[07:09] <morphish> shrndegruv: /dev/hda3              19G  4.5G   13G  26% /  and that is with everything i need and stuff apt leaves behind like a ton of .deb (like a 500MB+ worth of distfiles and the like)
[07:09] <shrndegruv> so i need about 19gb for root?
[07:10] <shrndegruv> :(
[07:10] <shrndegruv> only have 20 gb
[07:10] <shrndegruv> i thik
[07:10] <morphish> shrndegruv: no i use 4.5 out of 19
[07:10] <shrndegruv> i wish gpartd would give me the partition names
[07:10] <shrndegruv> ooohhhh
[07:10] <shrndegruv> ok
[07:10] <shrndegruv> good
[07:10] <gyaresu> shrndegruv, no. he's using 4.5. mine is 5.4GB
[07:10] <shrndegruv> ill do / 7
[07:10] <shrndegruv> home /12
[07:10] <shrndegruv> lemme start over
[07:10] <morphish> shrndegruv: should be under 4 if i clean it up, i do have clutter everywhere
[07:10] <shrndegruv> ill give root 6
[07:10] <shrndegruv> home 12
[07:10] <shrndegruv> 1 swap
[07:10] <shrndegruv> and 100 mb to boot
[07:11] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: But there is a command you could use to check if what you are typing is doing anything type: yes "test" > /dev/dsp and if it worked you should hear a load noise which you can stop with ctrl + c
[07:11] <mia> hey all whats the quickest way to get ntfs write support?  do i need to recompile my kernel?
[07:11] <jordan_> !ntfs
[07:11] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:11] <crass> gyaresu: so does that mean that I can't? (because debian uses a different components system)
[07:11] <jordan_> !fuse
[07:11] <ubotu> Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[07:11] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: great
[07:11] <Thanos> just installed ubuntu and my internet connection is real unstable
[07:11] <Feonix762> Quick question.. I installed Ubuntu on a laptop and then later installed Windows XP on a seperate partition and it overwrote the boot loader.. what is the easiest way for me to restore it so I can boot linux again? I don't have my Ubuntu CD at the moment either so I can't use it to get into linux.. is there some other method I can use to start up linux so I can restore GRUB?
[07:11] <BHSPitLappy> actually, I heard nothing but positive results about ntfs-3g
[07:11] <gyaresu> shrndegruv, morphish I just ran 'apt-get clean'. Now I'm using 4.4GB (down from 5.4) :)
[07:12] <BHSPitLappy> has anyone heard of a ntfs-3g mishap?
[07:12] <shrndegruv> 40 mb should be enough for /boot right?
[07:12] <Ayabara> anyone else have the problem that grub restarts the pc in a dual boot system?
[07:12] <shrndegruv> crap
[07:12] <shrndegruv> serious stuff
[07:12] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: so if that works, which would mean the console is working, would i be able to kill the X ?
[07:12] <BHSPitLappy> shrndegruv, for how many OSes?
[07:12] <shrndegruv> dont want to screw up my windows
[07:12] <morphish> gyaresu: i should try that when ketchup is done downloading kernel tree
[07:12] <shrndegruv> just ubuntu
[07:12] <shrndegruv> (windows gets most of the drive, for now
[07:12] <jordan_> KakarottoCL: Yes.
[07:12] <BHSPitLappy> shrndegruv, uhh, then why the heck are you making a /boot partition??
[07:12] <gyaresu> crass, What are you trying to install that is only available for debian?
[07:13] <shrndegruv> my linux stuff is in /dev/sda4
[07:13] <shrndegruv> extended
[07:13] <KakarottoCL> jordan_: whose command would be being "killall -9 X" ?
[07:13] <shrndegruv> right now i have 40 for boot
[07:13] <shrndegruv> 1 gig for swap
[07:13] <shrndegruv> and 20 for the rest
[07:13] <shrndegruv> i want to take that 20 and make it a / and a /home
[07:13] <BHSPitLappy> shrndegruv, but ---why--- do you think you need a /boot partition
[07:13] <crass> gyaresu: its actually the version, I'm looking for rtorrent 0.6.4
[07:13] <morphish> shrndegruv: if / is on a extended partition the GUI installer might not work, which is what i said earlier
[07:13] <Jordan_U> KakarottoCL: What do you mean?
[07:13] <shrndegruv> hmm
[07:13] <morphish> BHSPitLappy: same reason why people think they NEED a /home or a /usr or a /var
[07:13] <Feonix762> How can I start Ubuntu if the boot loader was overwriten by Windows XP and I don't have my Ubuntu CD?
[07:14] <splintax> gyaresu: i have more questions :P
[07:14] <KakarottoCL> Jordan_U: the command to kill the X should be "killall -9 X" ?
[07:14] <shrndegruv> how do i get around that morph
[07:14] <splintax> gyaresu: i was able to get GRUB to come up, but the configuration was incorrect
[07:14] <crass> gyaresu: I have no problems compiling it myself, but I'd prefer to do it through the package management system
[07:14] <gyaresu> crass, :) I use 0.5.3 |tried upgrading with the source. didn't work though.
[07:14] <splintax> gyaresu: are hd0, hd1, hd2 etc. the hard disks in BIOS boot order or what?
[07:14] <BHSPitLappy> morphish, /home is valid, this /boot isn't!
[07:14] <KakarottoCL> ok i will try immediatly, at least the /dev/dsp thing
[07:14] <morphish> Feonix762: burn another cd, or use another cd like knoppix, anything with grub on it to rewrite grub to mbr
[07:14] <gyaresu> crass, download it and dpkg then (not recommended)
[07:14] <splintax> gyaresu: i could only boot into ubuntu by changing it to boot into hd0 instead of hd1 as it was set up.
[07:14] <crass> gyaresu: yeah, I use that version too, but the developer says its got serious issues
[07:15] <Feonix762> morphish.. if I use a live CD of knoppix can I reinstall GRUB that way?
[07:15] <gyaresu> splintax, you will need to edit your menu.lst (you can just do it on the fly with grub. that's one of the cool things about it)
[07:15] <morphish> BHSPitLappy: often people have a seperate /boot to keepp it umounted and thus not be affected by system crashes for example
[07:15] <BHSPitLappy> shrndegruv, I'm just going to go ahead and tell you right now, that you don't need a /boot partition.  PLUS, since you're limited on space, I don't even recommend splitting up into / and /home.
[07:15] <BHSPitLappy> morphish, bah.
[07:15] <crass> gyaresu: so you're saying that I can't use debian unstable then?
[07:15] <splintax> gyaresu: that's how i was able to boot up. i edited it on the fly - however, i wasn't able to get the changes to stay
[07:15] <BHSPitLappy> humbug, I say!
[07:15] <gyaresu> splintax, hda hdb yes ide positions.
[07:15] <splintax> gyaresu: i had to edit it then press 'b' to boot
[07:15] <ptaylor> shrndegruv: my boot partition only had 20megs or so used
[07:15] <Jordan_U> KakarottoCL: You probalby won't need the -9 , and when you need to restart X you can always just go back with ctrl+option+F7 and do ctrl+alt+backspace to restart X.
[07:15] <morphish> Feonix762: only if you have it id say use that, if not get yourself a spiffy ubuntu CD
[07:15] <ptaylor> 20 would prob be fine
[07:15] <ptaylor> 40 that is
[07:16] <gyaresu> crash don't use debian repos.
[07:16] <morphish> BHSPitLappy: ok, so you disagree, no need to bah me when i try to explain why people like to have a /boot
[07:16] <gyaresu> splintax, gotta edit menu.lst to make them permanent.
[07:16] <splintax> gyaresu: where can i find menu.lst? and is there another way to edit grub permanently? because when i reboot, it goes back to hd1 where it should be hd0
[07:16] <shrndegruv> quick poll, yes or no to boot partition
[07:16] <shrndegruv> ?
[07:16] <splintax> gyaresu: ok, so where can i find it?
[07:16] <charle97> splintax, /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:16] <ptaylor> shrndegruv: yes!
[07:16] <splintax> charle97: thanks
[07:16] <gyaresu> splintax, 'locate -i menu.lst'  (/boot/grub/menu.lst)
[07:16] <BHSPitLappy> morphish, I'm bah'ing the idea
[07:17] <gyaresu> shrndegruv, It's where the images live.
[07:17] <splintax> charle97, gyaresu: how does grub know where to find menu.lst? what if i were to rearrange my partitions, say put linux on the sda0 instead of sda1, then would grub still work?
[07:17] <gyaresu> shrndegruv, about 50MB unless you want more than 3 or 4 different kernels.
[07:17] <BHSPitLappy> he's only using one distro
[07:17] <morphish> BHSPitLappy: ;P you might get another bah ready, i have used machines with a single / and swap before, just because i got tired of having free space where i didn't need them
[07:18] <shrndegruv> i tend to have one safe, one current, and one in experimental
[07:18] <BHSPitLappy> morphish, that's how my laptop is right now.
[07:18] <BHSPitLappy> morphish, for that reason, too.  My desktop has a /home, a /, a different / (for another distro), and a swap
[07:18] <shrndegruv> hmm
[07:18] <BHSPitLappy> I used to keep a /boot partition on my desktop
[07:19] <gyaresu> splintax, good question. I always 'grub-install' but someone was saying that you don't need to anymore.
[07:19] <BHSPitLappy> ubuntu wouldn't allow it.
[07:19] <shrndegruv> cant decide whether to go without separate home partition...
[07:19] <BHSPitLappy> so, it's not used anymore.
[07:19] <morphish> BHSPitLappy: having one home for 2 distros is where i would say having a /home makes sense
[07:19] <BHSPitLappy> morphish, exactly, that's the role it played on the desktop. although, that's not the only place it makes sense.
[07:19] <gyaresu> splintax, So you could just rewrite it then 'grub-install /dev/blah'
[07:19] <BHSPitLappy> morphish, it's nice having disposable OS partitions
[07:19] <morphish> BHSPitLappy: serious? kubuntu had no issues with my /boot, just ignored the grub.conf and made a new menu.lst
[07:20] <gyaresu> shrndegruv, makes reistalling to ANY linux that much easier...
[07:20] <shrndegruv> you mean having it gyaresu?
[07:20] <BHSPitLappy> morphish, when I installed edgy, it demanded that any assigned /boot partition must be formatted.  So, what the heck good does that do, if I want to use multiple OS's with it?
[07:20] <BHSPitLappy> so I just used the / for /boot
[07:20] <gyaresu> shrndegruv, yes.
[07:20] <BHSPitLappy> no OS I've ever used made that demand before
[07:20] <shrndegruv> so if i have 20.21 gb of free space after boot and swap
[07:21] <Jordan_U> KakarottoCL: It is actually kind of fun trying to work blind, I learned a few tricks like if you pipe commands through grep looking for error for instance, then send that to /dev/dsp , you will only hear a noise if grep outputs somethign, so if you here a noise, ther was an error :)
[07:21] <shrndegruv> how should i divie it up?
[07:21] <gyaresu> shrndegruv, think ubuntu 7.0: Nuke everything  except home partion >> reinstall
[07:21] <crsd> I've installed nvidia-glx along with linux-restricted-modules, still I have: $ sudo nvidia-glx-config enable   Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver!   What am I missing here?
[07:21] <shrndegruv> yeah thats what i was thinking gyaresu
[07:21] <splintax> gyaresu: Not sure I understand. If I was to move all the partitions, wouldn't I have to boot into some mini-OS to do so (since the currently-running OS is being moved)? ah but grub would still be on the MBR so i could get into that, then manually edit it to boot into something, then edit menu.lst, correct?
[07:21] <nailbiter> What's the next unstable branch after Edgy called?
[07:21] <BHSPitLappy> shrndegruv, it makes it much easier to wipe out, reinstall etc your OS, BUT you have such little space, that I recommend sharing that 20gigs.
[07:21] <gyaresu> splintax, Shazam!
[07:22] <gyaresu> splintax, (grub is like a little OS)
[07:22] <BHSPitLappy> shrndegruv, 20gigs is what I have for linux on this laptop, and that's how I have it.   If I separated them, I risk running out of one or the other's space
[07:22] <syock> hoyo I installed a Swallow meta applet which i told to swallow gnome calculator, now GNOME panel is unusable
[07:22] <shrndegruv> yeah its  a tradeoff
[07:22] <mia> this fuse method isnt working for me
[07:22] <BHSPitLappy> syock, that sounds horrible
[07:22] <morphish> BHSPitLappy: the gui didnt work for me since / is hda7 (did some trickery with primary partitions to keep XP happy), the alternate cd installer took /boot just fine
[07:22] <mia> i think i want to build ntfs write support into my kernel
[07:22] <syock> where`s the configuration file for applications startup?
[07:22] <splintax> gyaresu: okay then. I still have a problem. I think I've edited menu.lst the way I want it. However I still can't boot into windows
[07:23] <gyaresu> mia, ntfs-3g is the way to go.
[07:23] <splintax> gyaresu: i've spoken to windows people about the problem
[07:23] <BHSPitLappy> morphish, did it demand the /boot partition be formatted? The GUI installer stated it like a rule.
[07:23] <splintax> gyaresu: do you know the correct GRUB configuration to boot into windows?
[07:23] <mia> gyaresu: is that available for amd64
[07:23] <shrndegruv> do i write the new partition table BEFORE naming the partitions?
[07:23] <splintax> gyaresu: #windows people say that my problem is likely caused by incorrect bootloader configuration
[07:23] <gyaresu> splintax,  "i've spoken to windows people about the problem" Oh dear god.
[07:23] <BHSPitLappy> shrndegruv, "naming them"?
[07:23] <Jordan_U> shrndegruv: Yes.
[07:23] <BHSPitLappy> oh
[07:23] <BHSPitLappy> mount points
[07:23] <BHSPitLappy> yes
[07:23] <KakarottoCL> Jordan_U: do you have msn messenger?
[07:23] <dacableguy> nailbiter - Feisty Fawn
[07:23] <sethk> splintax, I do, yes.  can you put your menu.lst on the paste web site?
[07:24] <morphish> BHSPitLappy: the gui states it like a rule, the alternate did what i told it to do and left it alone.
[07:24] <shrndegruv> i need to tell which is /boot /home and / right?
[07:24] <Jordan_U> KakarottoCL: No, I am trying to pm you but it isn't working.
[07:24] <syock> What is the config file for GNOME(panel) apps startup?
[07:24] <nailbiter> dacableguy: ...
[07:24] <spiderworm> my ubuntu box seemingly randomly changed the system date and time, its of course incorrect, anyone know how to set it correct from the command line?
[07:24] <mia> gyaresu: i dont have that in my repo, i dont think its available for amd64
[07:24] <gyaresu> splintax, sethk yeah. what he said :)
[07:24] <dusk> what is a good audiophile audio player, ala foobar2k for windows
[07:24] <dacableguy> yes nailbiter?
[07:24] <KakarottoCL> Jordan_U: it won't, you need to register in order to pm..
[07:24] <morphish> BHSPitLappy: the funniest part on when people figure out how to partition a drive is: They spend more time thinking about it than it would take to install the OS
[07:24] <BHSPitLappy> morphish, well, my position is unchanged, as I already hated the GUI installer before. I just come to expect this from it.
[07:25] <mia> why cant i make a new kernel?
[07:25] <mia> CHK     include/linux/version.h
[07:25] <mia> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `init/main.o',
[07:25] <nailbiter> dacableguy: I was just surprised at the choice of name. :)
[07:25] <Jordan_U> KakarottoCL: That's the strange part, I am registered.
[07:25] <KakarottoCL> Jordan_U: don't you have any instant messenger?
[07:25] <BHSPitLappy> morphish, oh, I've spent lots of time planning and strategizing partitions.
[07:25] <gyaresu> mia no. it's technically beta. but works really really well.
[07:25] <dacableguy> nailbiter - gotcha
[07:25] <Jordan_U> KakarottoCL: Google talk
[07:25] <gyaresu> !ntfs-3g
[07:25] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[07:26] <splintax> sethk, gyaresu: http://pastebin.ca/243231 is the relevant part of menu.lst. i know i need to change root to (hd0,0) but i'm not sure about the other options - are the map and makeactive parts something to do with the fact that windows doesn't support multi-booting properly?
[07:26] <Thanos> i have no internet on my ubuntu machine
[07:26] <shrndegruv> guys i dont understand this -- do i need to tell which is /boot and which is /?
[07:26] <shrndegruv> gparted doesnt seem to let me specify
[07:26] <mia> gyaresu: problem is that im using edgy not dapper and amd64 not x86
[07:26] <splintax> gyaresu: yes well the windows people warned me that you guys would be yelling at me for various reasons so it seems there's some animosity between the two camps :P
[07:26] <zOrK> hi, I want to install other linux distro but I cant make another distro through gparted
[07:26] <charle97> shrndegruv, you really want a /boot?
[07:27] <zOrK> another ext3
[07:27] <zOrK> hi, I want to install other linux distro but I cant make another ext3 partition through gparted
[07:27] <shrndegruv> yes
[07:27] <zOrK> nor partition magic
[07:27] <shrndegruv> way ive always done it charle
[07:27] <sethk> splintax, I'm getting one from a machine that has dual boot working.  hold on while I log in there.  (unless gyaresu knows the answer already)
[07:27] <gyaresu> splintax, nope. I fix windows for a living for money. I help here for love. You figure it out...
[07:27] <shrndegruv> stubborn ;)
[07:27] <mia> what do i have to do to an out of the box ubuntu install for it to allow me to build my own kernel
[07:27] <sethk> splintax, don't believe everything you hear in #windows  :)
[07:27] <charle97> shrndegruv, yes you need to tell ubuntu which partittion is the /boot and /?
[07:27] <sethk> splintax, I have nothing against people in #windows, as long as they don't insist that I run windows.  :)
[07:27] <gyaresu> mia, build-essential and kernel-headers (kernel-source)
[07:28] <shrndegruv> yeah how charle97?
[07:28] <charle97> shrndegruv, disregarde the '?'
[07:28] <morphish> splintax: true must linux geeks are windows haters
[07:28] <gyaresu> sethk, that's what vmware is for ;)
[07:28] <syock> Hi, there is this panel applet which renders my panel unusable, and it startsup with the panel. Do anyone know how to fix that?
[07:28] <charle97> shrndegruv, highlight mount point
[07:28] <mia> zOrK: you can only have 3 prmary partitions
[07:28] <shrndegruv> what i really want to know is is that next after writing the partition?
[07:28] <tritium> !kernel | mia
[07:28] <ubotu> mia: kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[07:28] <gyaresu> morphish, only because it's rubbish :)
[07:28] <sethk> splintax, my section (from a working file) that boots windows is only three lines, including the title.
[07:28] <sethk> splintax, your title line is fine
[07:28] <Shadowpillar> how come interfaces keep coming up?
[07:28] <shrndegruv> fstab specifies that no?
[07:28] <sethk> splintax, ah, I see what you are doing
[07:29] <zOrK> mia, ok, so I can't install other Linux distro?!
[07:29] <splintax> sethk: well yeah, i assumed so, but i'm changing it to WinXP or something shorter
[07:29] <charle97> shrndegruv, after wrirting the partition you're ready to install
[07:29] <shrndegruv> right
[07:29] <Shadowpillar> I turn off certain interfaces and they turn back on after so many minutes and they wreck my connection
[07:29] <teenprogrammer> hwo do I copy a whole directory from one location to another O.O
[07:29] <iceman> guys,is there a way of re-installing ubuntu without over writing the home folder?
[07:29] <shrndegruv> but how does it know where the / partition is
[07:29] <sethk> splintax, the feature where you exchange the drives that way, is known to have problems with certain BIOS types and versions.
[07:29] <shrndegruv> if i havent specified it
[07:29] <gyaresu> Shadowpillar, Because of the "auto" line in /etc/networking/interfaces
[07:29] <mia> zOrK: u can, but you need to start making extended partitions
[07:29] <splintax> sethk: i think i need to take out both map commands, correct? because i'm now booting from hd0 (that's what grub's installed on)
[07:29] <charle97> shrndevgruv, use your arrows and highlight 'mount point'
[07:29] <zOrK> mia, ok thanks
[07:29] <gyaresu> iceman, yes.
[07:29] <sethk> splintax, is it really necessary?  linux will run perfectly happy from hd1.  can't you just make the windows box hd0 permanently?
[07:29] <sethk> splintax, oh, ok, good
[07:29] <charle97> shrndevgruv, and choose
[07:30] <sethk> splintax, then all you need are two lines:
[07:30] <shrndegruv> i dont see a mountpoint option
[07:30] <mia> tritium: im convinced i need a new kernel for ntfs write support on edgy-amd64
[07:30] <sethk> splintax,           rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[07:30] <splintax> sethk: no room on hd1 and hd2 is fucked so i'm stuck with partitioning hd0 for both windows and linux
[07:30] <iceman> gyaresu: how
[07:30] <sethk> splintax,                             chainloader +1
[07:30] <sethk> splintax, linux doesn't care
[07:30] <Shadowpillar> gyaresu: ath0 isnt auto
[07:30] <mia> tritium: ntfs-3g is only for dapper and fuse isnt working
[07:30] <Shadowpillar> that's the odd bit
[07:30] <sethk> splintax, it will run perfectly happily from hd1
[07:30] <syock> ^betul^: biar betul
[07:30] <shrndegruv> will it automatically handle dual boot?
[07:30] <shrndegruv> if not i have to abort
[07:30] <sethk> splintax, only windows cares.  so leave windows as hd0, and everybody is happy
[07:31] <charle97> shrndegruv, ubuntu wil handle the dual boot
[07:31] <zOrK> mia, I've to delete a partition , but I can't do that ( important info there ) , what should I do?
[07:31] <gyaresu> iceman, chose to install home to the home partition and don't format it (if you have desktop ubuntu disk)
[07:31] <sethk> shrndegruv, if you have windows installed, the isntalled will put windows onto the boot menu
[07:31] <gyaresu> Shadowpillar, That is interesting.
[07:31] <shrndegruv> now morphish can i have more than one primary partition?
[07:31] <sethk> splintax, those two linesa are all you need
[07:31] <splintax> sethk: i think i've got it set up correctly now, but do you have a link to a good FAQ on menu.lst syntax? i want to learn what all the commands do so i have a better grasp on what the hell's going on. that way if i kill it again i can fix it without you guys
[07:32] <iceman> thanx,let me try
[07:32] <sethk> splintax, I can point you at a doc file, if you have linux installed already.
[07:32] <Shadowpillar> gyaresu: and how come my onboard card is eth1 instead of eth0
[07:32] <splintax> sethk: speaking to you from ubuntu - working fine from hd0/1 infact
[07:32] <sethk> splintax, otherwise get it from the grub distribution tarball.
[07:33] <gyaresu> Shadowpillar, dmesg |grep eth
[07:33] <mia> zOrK: i dont know what you mean
[07:33] <mia> delete one OS and reinstall it in an extended partition
[07:34] <sethk> splintax, the file you want is grub.texi.  It's in a mark up languages.  You an run a program to get a doc out of it, but you can read the markup lnaguge in the marked up file.
[07:34] <nrdb> I would like to program the Atmell 89c2051 is this possible with Linux?
[07:34] <therapy> does anyone know how to make the volume buttons on my laptop work with xubuntu?
[07:34] <zOrK> mia, how do I make a extended partition?
[07:34] <splintax> sethk: i know TeX
[07:34] <kuzmaster> hey all
[07:34] <charle97> shrndegruv, you still here?
[07:34] <syock> Hi, there is this panel applet which renders my panel unusable, and it startsup with the panel. Do anyone know how to fix that?
[07:34] <kuzmaster> ive herd various things but.....
[07:34] <kuzmaster> how stable it ubuntu 6.10
[07:35] <sethk> splintax, good.  YOu entered from #windows, so I didn't know how much you know.
[07:35] <charle97> kuzmaster, very stable for me .... i clean installed it
[07:35] <kuzmaster> same....but
[07:35] <splintax> sethk: ;-)
[07:35] <gyaresu> kuzmaster, Well worth using.
[07:35] <kuzmaster> the LAN like just died
[07:35] <mia> zOrK: i use fdisk
[07:35] <kuzmaster> then after 3 restarts, it was fine
[07:35] <kuzmaster> :-/
[07:35] <spiderworm> my ubuntu box seemingly randomly changed the system date and time, its of course incorrect, anyone know how to set it correct from the command line?
[07:35] <zOrK> Command (m for help): n
[07:35] <gyaresu> kuzmaster, cables? wireless?
[07:35] <zOrK> You must delete some partition and add an extended partition first
[07:35] <Healot> dang, emoticons
[07:35] <gyaresu> spiderworm, 'date'
[07:35] <shrndegruv> sugar
[07:36] <Thanos> my lan is unstable as well
[07:36] <shrndegruv> morph i think you were right
[07:36] <Thanos> fresh install
[07:36] <kuzmaster> hmmmmmmm.......
[07:36] <kuzmaster> how about wifi
[07:36] <shrndegruv> wont let me put / on a logical drive
[07:36] <shrndegruv> says no root filesystem
[07:36] <kuzmaster> anyone having problems with wifi?
[07:36] <Thanos> i am cables
[07:36] <sethk> spiderworm, the date command has a set mode.
[07:36] <Luke> how do you find the current X display?
[07:36] <gyaresu> kuzmaster, which chip. please be specific.
[07:36] <Jbirk> I went to a job interview today
[07:36] <syock> I wish i could start another terminal to work on my pc...
[07:36] <kuzmaster> ummmm... i think its a ralink
[07:36] <kuzmaster> its a dlink
[07:36] <gyaresu> !offtopic > Jbirk
[07:37] <mia> ok turns out compiling the kernel is nothing like in gentoo.  is there an ntfs-3g for edgy amd64?
[07:37] <spiderworm> im confused how the date was changed on my system
[07:37] <gyaresu> kuzmaster, rt2500?
[07:37] <mia> !offtopic > mia
[07:37] <Thanos> i give up
[07:37] <syock> na, dareka onegai
[07:37] <spiderworm> it suddenly happened, i did nothing, and could find nothing in cron
[07:37] <kuzmaster> dont think so
[07:37] <kuzmaster> i forget what model it is
[07:37] <tritium> mia: you can compile it in much the same way as in gentoo, but the preferred method is to use make-kpkg to build a .deb package
[07:37] <mia> CHK     include/linux/version.h
[07:37] <mia> make[1] : *** No rule to make target `init/main.o', needed by `init/built-in.o'.
[07:38] <gyaresu> mia, grab the source (top google link i think) after installing 'fuse'
[07:38] <shrndegruv> can anyone advise on how to get this heap to put / on a logical partition
[07:38] <charle97> shrndegruv, did you set / on a partition?
[07:38] <mia> gyaresu: what source?
[07:38] <kuzmaster> would there be any problems using the kde wifi manager on gnome?
[07:38] <mia> gyaresu: ntfs-3g?
[07:38] <gyaresu> mia, ntfs-3g sourde
[07:38] <gyaresu> mia, yep.
[07:38] <shrndegruv> yes charle
[07:39] <gyaresu> mia, ooh. they have a website now... http://www.ntfs-3g.org/
[07:40] <Healot> 3G :)
[07:40] <BHSPitLappy> I just installed ntfs-3g in synaptics
[07:40] <BHSPitLappy> from the badgerports repo
[07:40] <tarelerulz> ntfs-3g works great
[07:40] <tarelerulz> I use it all the time
[07:40] <BHSPitLappy> I don't know how to set it up
[07:40] <BHSPitLappy> but I installed it! :D
[07:40] <tarelerulz> all you have to do
[07:40] <tarelerulz> what I did was
[07:40] <Luke> how do you find the current X display?
[07:40] <kuzmaster> how do you start network-manager-gnome?
[07:40] <gyaresu> mia, it's in the repos. (thanks BHSPitLappy )
[07:40] <splintax> sethk: what does chainloader +1 do?
[07:41] <mia> gyaresu: not the repos for amd64 edgy
[07:41] <tarelerulz> sudo ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows
[07:41] <BHSPitLappy> gyaresu, from the badgerports repo. google it.
[07:41] <charle97> luke, the x version?
[07:41] <gyaresu> mia, (sorry)
[07:41] <BHSPitLappy> tarelerulz, yeah, just saw.
[07:41] <tarelerulz> Well, it is great
[07:41] <tarelerulz> read /write
[07:41] <mia> gyaresu: i have fuse modprobed and whein i try to configure ntfs-3g:  checking for fuse >= 2.5.0... configure: error: ntfs-3g requires FUSE >= 2.5.0.
[07:42] <gyaresu> mia, urgh.
[07:42] <mia> so i guess im back to trying to compile a kernel
[07:42] <tarelerulz> I use it for my 300 gb drive fat32 and my 160 gb ntfs
[07:42] <BHSPitLappy> :D
[07:42] <BHSPitLappy> I can finally start fixing tags on my ntfs collection
[07:42] <BHSPitLappy> mia, how did you install it
[07:42] <Luke> charle97: 7.1.1
[07:42] <tarelerulz> I wish I could get gyach enhanded working
[07:43] <shrndegruv> holy sugar
[07:43] <shrndegruv> its connecting to my wireless network
[07:43] <theDtTvB> Hello, how can I disable the desktop manager Nautilus?
[07:43] <mia> tritium: you said i could compile my kernel ala gentoo, but how come i cant make after setting it up how i want it
[07:43] <shrndegruv> how is that possible havent told it the password
[07:43] <mia> BHSPitLappy: install what?
[07:43] <gyaresu> BHSPitLappy, man you've gotta start reading the posts... He hasn't.
[07:43] <mia> BHSPitLappy: fuse?
[07:43] <BHSPitLappy> shrndegruv, see if it succeeds
[07:43] <BHSPitLappy> mia, ntfs-3g
[07:43] <sethk> BBl
[07:44] <gyaresu> shrndegruv, it will but you won't get dhcp methinks
[07:44] <mia> BHSPitLappy: i didnt, the channel bot linked me to the docs which indicated teh package was only for dapper x86.  im edge amd64
[07:44] <charle97> luke, are you referring to xdm?
[07:44] <shrndegruv> must be connected to another wireless
[07:44] <Luke> charle97: no... the current X display
[07:44] <shrndegruv> anyway
[07:44] <shrndegruv> still cant get it to see root filesystem
[07:45] <gyaresu> BHSPitLappy, START READING THE POSTS PLEASE.
[07:45] <tarelerulz> do any you know anything about gyach-enhanced_pyvoice-
[07:45] <BHSPitLappy> !caps
[07:45] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:45] <gyaresu> BHSPitLappy, Look muppet. I WAS SHOUTING AT YOU.
[07:46] <shrndegruv> forums seem to have a solution
[07:46] <BHSPitLappy> oh, that changes the intent of !caps
[07:46] <syock> i give up, i just dunno the solution
[07:46] <kuzmaster> how would i start kwifi manager?
[07:46] <mia> BHSPitLappy: its compiled now, i needed fuse0dev
[07:46] <kuzmaster> in gnome?
[07:47] <gyaresu> kuzmaster, is it installed? If so then from the command line.
[07:47] <BHSPitLappy> mia, sorry, I'm just getting a hard time for even bothering to try. This is why I dislike this channel; I'm out
[07:47] <kuzmaster> what do i write?
[07:47] <kuzmaster> put it?
[07:48] <gyaresu> kuzmaster, First you need to know the command. I imagine it will be kwifimanager but you can type 'apropos kwifi' and that should return the progs name.
[07:48] <kuzmaster> thanx
[07:48] <gyaresu> kuzmaster, From a terminal yes?
[07:48] <gyaresu> kuzmaster, no probs.
[07:49] <kuzmaster> ahhhhhhh!!!!!!!
[07:49] <gyaresu> kuzmaster, hmmm?
[07:49] <kuzmaster> should i be having any problems use kwifi manager with ubuntu 6.10
[07:50] <kuzmaster> ?
[07:50] <gyaresu> kuzmaster, If you are having problems... then, yes.
[07:50] <kuzmaster> lol
[07:50] <kuzmaster> its like broke i think
[07:51] <gyaresu> kuzmaster, I can tell you how to do things with command line. I don't use kwifi so maybe someone else can help there.
[07:51] <mia> cool that worked.  now whats the "ubuntu way" of taking other mount option out of fstab and automating it usng ntfs-3g
[07:51] <kuzmaster> could you do that maybe please?
[07:51] <gyaresu> mia, had a look at fstab?
[07:51] <gyaresu> mia, noticed the UUID's
[07:51] <mia> gyaresu: yeah, a little different than im used to
[07:51] <mia> gyaresu: yeah i noticed
[07:51] <tarelerulz> libltdl.so.3 I don't seem to have that file  and I can
[07:51] <tarelerulz> t find it with synaptic
[07:51] <gyaresu> mia, 'ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/'
[07:52] <gyaresu> kuzmaster, there you shall find them.
[07:52] <shrndegruv> dang thing crashed i thik
[07:52] <kuzmaster> where?
[07:52] <gyaresu> kuzmaster, sorry. right. wireless...
[07:52] <kuzmaster> !wifi
[07:52] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[07:52] <kuzmaster> lol
[07:52] <gyaresu> kuzmaster, typo.
[07:52] <mia> gyaresu: rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 2006-11-08 00:21 1E0CC3AF0CC37FEF -> ../../hda1
[07:52] <gyaresu> mia, yeah. the big silly number replaces '/dev/hda1' etc...
[07:53] <mia> gyaresu: im not seeing what that has to do with using ntfs03g vs mount and fstab
[07:53] <smoenux> hey all.
[07:53] <smoenux> quick TwinView Question if I may ^.^ ?
[07:53] <shrndegruv> need a cigarette
[07:53] <gyaresu> UUID=1E0CC3AF0CC37FEF /mnt/xp ntfs-3g defaults 0 0
[07:54] <gyaresu> !helpme > smoenux
[07:54] <gyaresu> mia, or whatever your UUID is...
[07:54] <gyaresu> smoenux, That's not quick :)
[07:55] <smoenux> TwinView works, but, when I Maximize a app, it extends it over both monitors....
[07:55] <smoenux> lol
[07:55] <smoenux> gyaresu... it never used to do that
[07:55] <gyaresu> smoenux, http://gyaresu.org/xorg.conf  That's mine if it's any help...
[07:55] <smoenux> ta... will have a quick look
[07:55] <gyaresu> smoenux, the prog you're using may not have xinerama compiled in. Is it from the repos?
[07:57] <smoenux> gyaresu... not from the repos, but I use a script from the forums which gets the official drivers from the Nvidia site
[07:57] <smoenux> script = envy
[07:57] <gyaresu> smoenux, nvidia-glx is fine for me.
[07:57] <kuzmaster> wireless was so simple in kubuntu........
[07:58] <splintax> heh, anyone have any idea why #windows is coming up as ##windows in the XChat channel list on the left?
[07:59] <Alex> splintax: Becuase on freenode, 'about' channels are designated using a double hash
[07:59] <Alex> splintax: about -> unofficial.
[07:59] <splintax> Alex: oh, okay then
[07:59] <splintax> thanks.
[07:59] <Alex> Np
[08:00] <neobonzi> hey all, would anyone have any idea why my computer freezes when i try to use ndiswrapper on edgy? (i compiled it myself)
[08:01] <smoenux> !xorg
[08:01] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:02] <ruxpin> how can I get perl-5.8.8 in dapper?
[08:03] <neobonzi> can someone help me? Whenever i run ndiswrapper to start up my wireless card my computer freezes :/
[08:05] <LGKeiz-Windows> ROFL!
[08:06] <smoenux> no joy :(
[08:09] <pumpkinhead> what is the best filesharing program for ubuntu
[08:11] <epinephrine> tried frostwire?
[08:12] <nrdb> is there a mcs51 (8051 products) assember in the repositories?
[08:12] <sethfelder> hey all
[08:13] <pumpkinhead> no, i will thanks epinephrine
[08:13] <sethfelder> has anyone got wireless networking to work in ubuntu 6.10?
[08:13] <fd0man> Does anyone know about problems using OpenGL software in a dual-head configuration?
[08:13] <fd0man> sethfelder:  I have WiFi working out of the box with Edgy.
[08:13] <Flannel> nrdb: it appears sdcc is in universe
[08:14] <sethfelder> what chipset is your card?
[08:14] <fd0man> sethfelder:  What is your WiFi hardware?  MIne is Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5005G 802.11abg NIC
[08:14] <nrdb> Flannel: I found sdcc but the description doesn't meantion an assembler
[08:14] <sethfelder> hmmmm
[08:14] <sethfelder> im pretty sure mine is a........ ralink
[08:15] <fd0man> sethfelder:  Did it work with Dapper?
[08:15] <Flannel> nrdb: "SDCC is a C compiler for the Intel MCS51 family, AVR, HC08, PIC and Z80 microcontrollers.  This package includes the compiler, assemblers and linkers."
[08:15] <Healot> 24xx/25xx?
[08:15] <sethfelder> not for ubuntu
[08:15] <sethfelder> but it did for kubuntu
[08:15] <sethfelder> :-\
[08:15] <fd0man> sethfelder:  Hrm.  Weird.
[08:15] <sethfelder> i know
[08:16] <sethfelder> ill try installing kde for ubuntu 6.10
[08:16] <sethfelder> that might help.........
[08:16] <fd0man> I'm not sure why that would, but if it works
[08:16] <Commander-Crowe> I download a theme from xfce-look.com(?) and I extracted the tar but what do I do wit the files it gives me?
[08:16] <fd0man> Then go for it, I guess.
[08:16] <Commander-Crowe> I'm in Xfce
[08:17] <Commander-Crowe> hello?
[08:17] <nrdb> Flannel: opps ... I was looking at the sdcc webpage.  thanks I will install it and see how it goes.
[08:18] <Flannel> Commander-Crowe: try asking in #xubuntu
[08:18] <Commander-Crowe> I did
[08:18] <Commander-Crowe> n one seem to be there
[08:18] <fd0man> Has anyone had any success with running glxgears (or, for that matter, OpenOffice.org) in a dual-headed configuration under Edgy?
[08:19] <sethfelder> how can i installed kde ontop of gnome, but still keep gnome?
[08:19] <sethfelder> is it possible
[08:19] <happy_broccoli> debian did it first! instant runoff voting a success for over 1 million people in 3 jd (1 still processing) http://hunterp.wordpress.com
[08:19] <tich_> is it possible to make icons for movies to appear as little movie clips like pictures do?
[08:20] <smoenux> lol... flannel, you are always here :P
[08:20] <fd0man> sethfelder, sureapt-get install kubuntu-desktop kde
[08:20] <tich_> sethfelder, in my experience it can get a little glitchy
[08:21] <sethfelder> then i wont....
[08:21] <Flannel> fd0man, sethfelder, you don't need to install kde, juts kubuntu desktop
[08:21] <sethfelder> yeah yeah yeah
[08:21] <sethfelder> umm.......
[08:21] <fd0man> Flannel, true; though Kubuntu-desktop leaves out many things from KDE, so I add the KDE package, too, which pulls a ton of stuff for KDE.
[08:22] <ruzugetht> Hi all, have a dual boot system and need rw access to the NTFS part, is there a util for this?
[08:22] <Flannel> fd0man: correct, but do you want kubuntu? or kde?
[08:22] <Flannel> !fuse | ruzugetht
[08:22] <ubotu> ruzugetht: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[08:22] <ruzugetht> thanks
[08:22] <fd0man> Flannel, I generally like to have the entire desktop that I am using.  I usually use Ubuntu, so after installing I also apt-get the GNOME metapackage.
[08:22] <shrndegruv> sweet im all installed
[08:23] <shrndegruv> lets see if ubuntu starts
[08:23] <Flannel> fd0man: alright, then you might only want to install kde, and not kubuntu.  If you install both, you're likely to end up with duplicate things (two offices, or whatnot)
[08:23] <tich_> does anyone know how to make the graying of the screen (when passwords are entered) stop?
[08:23] <shrndegruv> ha
[08:23] <shrndegruv> sweeet
[08:24] <shrndegruv> can people help me with wireless
[08:24] <fd0man> Flannel, Oh, interesting.  Didn't realize you couldn't easily have multiple desktops installed.
[08:24] <shrndegruv> for instance
[08:24] <shrndegruv> how do i tell which wireless profile its using?
[08:25] <Flannel> fd0man: you can, ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop, etc.  but, if you have kubuntu- and kde, then whatever the Kubuntu people swapped out of KDE for the kubuntu stuff, you'll have both, etc.
[08:25] <grant> hey guys, quick question about xmms, how do you recieve shoutcast tv streams?
[08:25] <Flannel> fd0man: it may, or may not be a problem, depending on what you want, I'm just letting you know ;)
[08:25] <fd0man> Oh.  True.  :)
[08:25] <reorourke> I bought a new hard drive tonight and would like to install it as the primary HD for my PC, to run XP.  My current HD is running Ubuntu - it does have GRuB installed but how can I ensure that once I install the new HD that I'll still be able to access my Linux drive?  Anything written online about this?
[08:25] <fd0man> Does anyone here use a dual-headed configuration?  Mine works (partially) and keeps crashing.
[08:25] <grant> !xmms
[08:25] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[08:26] <grant> hey guys, quick question about xmms, how do you recieve shoutcast tv streams?
[08:26] <stylus> what command can i use to search for directories?
[08:26] <fd0man> stylus, What are you searching for?  Just a list of directories on your system?
[08:27] <fd0man> stylus, Try this:  "tree -d"but note that it requires that you install the "tree" package.
[08:28] <stylus> fd0man: i'm just searching for a specific dir
[08:28] <stylus> i'll give that a shot, thanks
[08:28] <fd0man> stylus, Okay, then try this: find -type d 'directorypattern'
[08:28] <grant> stylus, or you could try disk usage manager
[08:29] <grant> if you want a gui
[08:29] <stylus> Ok, but fd0man - where can I find that "tree" package? apt-get isn't bringing anything up.
[08:29] <grant> hey guys, quick question about xmms, how do you recieve shoutcast tv streams?
[08:29] <fd0man> stylus, You will have to enable the Universe repository to get the tree package.
[08:29] <ruzugetht> cheers all
[08:29] <KenSentMe> !info tree
[08:29] <ubotu> tree: displays directory tree, in color. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.0-2 (edgy), package size 25 kB, installed size 92 kB
[08:30] <reorourke> cheers ruzu
[08:30] <KenSentMe> stylus: you should enable universe in your sources.list
[08:30] <KenSentMe> !universe | stylus
[08:30] <ubotu> stylus: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:30] <reorourke> hoping someone might be able to help me figure out this hard drive problem
[08:30] <shrndegruv> guys my wireless worked out of the box, but it was leaching someone elses connection
[08:30] <shrndegruv> how do i enable wep encryption
[08:30] <shrndegruv> the default config tool doesnt seem to handle it
[08:31] <stylus> Ah, yeah.. is there a console command that enables universe, kensentme?
[08:31] <KenSentMe> !wep | shrndegruv
[08:31] <charle97> shrndegruv, leaching owns
[08:31] <ubotu> shrndegruv: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:31] <KenSentMe> stylus: uncomment the lines on multiverse in /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:31] <KenSentMe> stylus: sorry, i mean universe
[08:31] <neobonzi> WOO
[08:32] <stylus> kensentme: ok
[08:32] <Commander-Crowe> does Xfce come with Gnome theme manager?
[08:32] <pumpkinhead> so far i have had no luck compiling tarbals in EE.  i wonder what is going wrong.
[08:32] <neobonzi> exit
[08:33] <fd0man> reorourke, You will need to install your new HD, install your Microsoft operating system, and then afterwards, boot into a rescue CD to update the configuration so that your system can boot.  I can't find anything online that outlines it concisely for your situation, though.
[08:34] <Tomcat_> !mbr
[08:34] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[08:34] <Tomcat_> This?
[08:34] <fd0man> Tomcat_, Hey, that's useful!
[08:34] <Tomcat_> :)
[08:36] <shrndegruv> do i need to restart networking once i change the settings?
[08:36] <Commander-Crowe> anyone?
[08:36] <MrKeuner> hi, why isn't there as much updates for edgy as ubuntu-1?
[08:36] <dooglus> Commander-Crowe: XFCE isn't a GNOME theme, it's its own desktop environment
[08:36] <fd0man> Tomcat_, The only part it doesn't cover is updating /etc/fstab.  Unfortuantely, the person left already
[08:37] <dooglus> MrKeuner: what's ubuntu-1?
[08:37] <Healot> i think he meant 6.06
[08:37] <MrKeuner> dooglus: 6.06
[08:37] <sagar_> whenever i click a ".desktop" file, ubuntu gives me errors and says it cant open it..the same goes for image files, even after i add a file type association...is this a gnome-vfs problem ors omething??
[08:38] <dooglus> MrKeuner: ubuntu isn't fashionable any more.  when 6.06 was out lots of people liked ubuntu, but now it's kind of jumped the shark
[08:38] <MrKeuner> isn't it because 6.06 is more stable than 6.10?
[08:38] <MrKeuner> I mean 6.06 has to be more stable
[08:38] <syock> Yeaaa I`m freeeee!
[08:39] <dooglus> MrKeuner: both 6.06 and 6.10 are supported at the moment, so they should both be getting updates
[08:40] <stylus> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:862:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[08:40] <stylus> 0.o any ideas where that came from? I was opening a file with sudo (gedit).
[08:40] <stylus> everything still opened correctly, but that was odd.
[08:42] <grant> question, when an app tries to connect to the net there is a 6 or 7 second delay each time before communication, after the delay speed is my normal 122Kb/sec any ideas on getting rid of the lag, its getting to be a real pain
[08:42] <Tomcat_> grant: Try "host somedomain.com" and see if the lag is happening there.
[08:43] <Tomcat_> grant: Use some domain that you haven't visited today.
[08:43] <Tomcat_> grant: Then try "telnet <ip> 80" using the ip you got from "host"... and see if the lag is there.
[08:43] <grant> tomcat, got this output ;; reply from unexpected source: 192.168.1.188#3072, expected 192.168.1.188#53
[08:44] <Tomcat_> grant: quick reply? Or slow?
[08:44] <grant> quicker than normal
[08:44] <grant> romcat, quicker than normal
[08:45] <Tomcat_> grant: Okay.... in that case it's difficult, and I don't know how to diagnose those things... but it's not your DNS server.
[08:45] <grant> tomcat, i've got dual boot setup with xp, don't get the lag in xp so its not a connection issue
[08:45] <stylus> grant: i have exactly the same issue
[08:45] <grant> tomcat, does that help?
[08:45] <grant> stylus, any luck solving it?
[08:46] <stylus> same thing happens while i'm browsing web pages.
[08:46] <Tomcat_> grant: You can try putting "blacklist ipv6" in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist, then reboot... that might be a problem.
[08:46] <stylus> nah, can't get it to speed up. it's something to do with the looking up
[08:46] <grant> stylus, yeah thats where its really starting to annoy me
[08:46] <smoenux> !NAT
[08:46] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about NAT - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:46] <stylus> grant: same.. i don't have all day to wait. :(
[08:47] <iJUST> hello all!
[08:47] <frederick85> how can I append some folders to an existing unclosed data cd
[08:47] <Tomcat_> stylus: For grant, I doubt it's a lookup problem... lookup is quick for him. :o
[08:47] <grant> tomcat, not sure what you mean
[08:47] <iJUST> fucking american boys!!
[08:47] <stylus> tomcat_: does this mean anything important?
[08:47] <stylus> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:862:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[08:47] <Tomcat_> grant: "sudo nano -w /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist", but "blacklist ipv6" somewhere, save & close, reboot.
[08:48] <crimsun> stylus: well, yes. Do you get audible sound at all?
[08:48] <Tomcat_> grant: If it doesn't help, you can remove the line again for better technology.
[08:48] <Tomcat_> grant: If it does help, you need to find somebody who knows about IPv6. :o
[08:48] <stylus> crimsun: i'm using audacious at the moment
[08:48] <stylus> it amy be hogging the sound?
[08:48] <Tomcat_> stylus: Nah, looks like the sound card is acting up.
[08:48] <crimsun> stylus: pastebin the contents of /etc/asound.conf & ~/.asoundrc*
[08:49] <snowshoefox> Where can I find indepth documents on Ubuntu?
[08:49] <grant> tomcat, ok i've put it in, do i need to do a full reboot or just x
[08:49] <stylus> crimsun: fixed it
[08:49] <stylus> just had to close audacious.
[08:49] <astro> hey
[08:50] <stylus> (media player)
[08:50] <astro> anyone avaliable for some help :/
[08:50] <stylus> it was obviously hogging soemthing. :)
[08:50] <grant> astro, you should just ask the question, if someone knows they will answer
[08:50] <Tomcat_> grant: Full reboot.
[08:50] <astro> I'm having a problem connecting to my wireless router, I have no clue what could be wrong
[08:51] <iJUST> You all stupid guys!
[08:51] <grant> tomcat, ok thanks, i'll brb, hopefully i can login nice and quickly
[08:51] <iJUST> Fuck you all!
[08:51] <crimsun> stylus: set the audio output to alsa, then.
[08:51] <totall_6_7> !ops
[08:51] <iJUST> Nuclear war will begin tomorrow
[08:51] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[08:51] <grant> nice to see you iJUST bugger off...
[08:52] <astro> im going insane lol
[08:52] <brutopia> this seem to be iJUST's first experience on irc
[08:52] <snowshoefox> nm, i found the site
[08:52] <mzli> astro: what's your matter?
[08:52] <Hobbsee> Madpilot: sigh.
[08:52] <stylus> crimsun: yup, just did. Thanks.
[08:53] <tich_> will easyubuntu be released for edgy sometime?
[08:53] <astro> I'm trying to connect to my wireless router, vice ethernet, I cant figure out how
[08:53] <lazzareth> Gday
[08:53] <reorourke> Hi there - anyone know anything about adding a new primary hard drive (hoping to maintain access to current primary-about-to-become-secondary hard drive with my linux installation)
[08:53] <dfgas> is there a superadduser for ubuntu? or a quick easy way to add a user in command line?
[08:53] <firstknight> Hi, I want to run some commands when I ( user ) logout the desktop. How do I do that?
[08:54] <splintax> dfgas yes there is one, i saw it on the ubuntu faq
[08:54] <totall_6_7> firstknight: have you tried not logging out of x but hitting ctrl-alt-f1 (use ctrl-alt-f7 to get back when you are done)
[08:54] <dfgas> k
[08:55] <splintax> dfgas: somewhere on here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[08:55] <lazzareth> I want to setup vlc so that when i open a new video file it closes or takes over the already open window.. I was thinking of trying to closing method, Which led me to try  '   killall vlc && vlc    '  but i think i missing something like.. the file location being passed the the file or is that automatic .. ive seen custom application launchers with  '%'somethings at the end ?
[08:55] <astro> i am literally stumped here
[08:55] <shrndegruv> guys im getting no dhcpoffers received when i try to start wireless
[08:55] <firstknight> totall_6_7, that's now what I mean, I have programs running in background, when I logout the desktop, the programs still exists, I want to automatically kill the programs when I logout the desktop ( but still not shutdown )
[08:56] <shrndegruv> ive set essid key channel and mode in /etc/network/interfaces
[08:56] <totall_6_7> firstknight: have you tried ctrl-alt-f1 after logging out?
[08:56] <reorourke> any help with hard drives?
[08:56] <syock> Why doesn`t the stock ticker scroll? intead it has a kind of drop-down menu
[08:57] <totall_6_7> firstknight: i dont know if it will work or not but worth a try
[08:57] <mzli> astro:iwconfig
[08:57] <firstknight> totall_6_7, I want "automatically" not "manual"
[08:57] <astro> just type iwconfig in a terminal?
[08:57] <snowshoefox> Any docs on modifying ubuntu boot up procedure?
[08:57] <lazzareth> Custom application launcher... why wont   ' killall vlc && vlc ' work
[08:57] <reorourke> will I be able to access my linux hard drive from an xp hard drive?
[08:57] <splintax> snowshoefox: what part of the boot up procedure, specifically?
[08:57] <snowshoefox> I'd like to remove the "Loading Linux Kerenl..." xerox window style to something cooler
[08:57] <firstknight> reorourke, yes
[08:58] <totall_6_7> firstknight: i believe you can change session to one that will just give you a command prompt
[08:58] <splintax> reorourke: not by default, but i think there is software you can install to read ext3 partitions
[08:58] <splintax> reorourke: did you format your linux partition as ext3?
[08:58] <tich_> snowshoefox, the only thing i have ever heard about boot up proceedure is with a distro called gnewsense which is based on ubuntu
[08:58] <splintax> reorourke: haven't used it before, but this came up on google http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm
[08:58] <firstknight> totall_6_7, that's now what I mean, I want it so that "my desktop/linux/system will run spesific command/script when I logout the desktop"
[08:58] <tich_> does anyone know if easyubuntu be released for edgy sometime?
[08:59] <Mantice> I installed Beryl How to I get it to run ?
[08:59] <totall_6_7> firstknight: ahhhh sorry i dont know how to do that, sorry mate
[08:59] <lazzareth> Mantice   join #ubuntu-xgl
[08:59] <firstknight> totall_6_7, that's okay
[09:00] <lazzareth> Mantice,  type in   beryl-manager   or   beryl-xgl
[09:00] <reorourke> splintax I'm adding a new hard drive to my system so I can run XP on it, so I have to make it the primary hard drive right?  any way that you know of that I can ensure access to dual-boot, so I can choose to boot into my current linux system?
[09:00] <splintax> reorourke: i'm probably not the best person to ask about these things since i'm currently trying to fix my dual-boot setup
[09:01] <splintax> reorourke: but my guess would be, yes. you have to install GRUB and windows on the same disk
[09:01] <reorourke> ah lol ok - trying to make sure I don't screw mine up
[09:01] <splintax> reorourke: and you have to set that disk to be the first boot option in BIOS. at least that's my understanding of it.
[09:01] <astro> mzli, i dont know what to do :(
[09:01] <grant> hey guys i'm back
[09:02] <reorourke> hmm so if I go ahead with the install of the new primary hard drive and install grub along with my windows install, then I should be able to access either system/hard drive upon boot
[09:02] <grant> tomcat, don't know why but that seems to be much faster now, em, could you explain why please?
[09:02] <reorourke> at least theoretically? lol
[09:02] <dope> none of my wmv files play in firefox
[09:02] <splintax> reorourke: grub has an option to specify the command to load an OS manually at boot.
[09:02] <splintax> reorourke: the syntax is fairly simple. do you have another computer to get onto IRC with incase things go wrong?
[09:02] <reorourke> hmm no not really
[09:03] <dope> none of my wmv files play in firefox
[09:03] <Tomcat_> grant: Some network configurations have problems with ipv6, which is a new Internet protocol... at the moment you probably don't need it, so it doesn't matter if we disable it. But in a couple of years you might need to ask some network expert to fix that.
[09:03] <splintax> are you currently single-booting?
[09:03] <reorourke> currently single booting I suppose - grub still runs on boot but right now linux is the only OS I have installed
[09:03] <stylus> how can i bring up my gateway ip with the router, so that I know where to forward the ports? is it ifconfig?
[09:03] <reorourke> but I'm wanting to keep what I have on my linux hard drive and add another hard drive for windows
[09:04] <grant> tomcat, if anything its probably my isp then, i'm in the middle east and they are restrictive as hell
[09:04] <dope> none of my wmv files play in firefox
[09:04] <splintax> reorourke: my recommendation would be to take out your linux HDD, and set up windows as the only OS on the computer
[09:04] <splintax> make sure that your linux can't be affected
[09:04] <Tomcat_> grant: Usually it's bad configuration or bad software on the other side, yes. ;)
[09:04] <ds> anyone know why debian/ubuntu have an ancient version of bittorrent?
[09:04] <splintax> reorourke: then after that, set it to boot from linux
[09:04] <Tomcat_> grant: And since most people use Windows and Windows doesn't have ipv6 enabled by default, it doesn't matter for most people.
[09:04] <splintax> boot from the linux HDD
[09:04] <dope> none of my wmv files play in firefox
[09:04] <grant> i better not say to much about Etisalat...they might be listening...
[09:05] <splintax> then edit the grub configuration from linux. you can set it up to 'trick' windows into thinking it's running off the main HDD or somethign.
[09:05] <Tomcat_> !restrictedformats | dope
[09:05] <ubotu> dope: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:05] <Tomcat_> dope: Check for w32codecs.
[09:05] <Tomcat_> dope: Best way imho is to install mozilla-mplayer and w32codecs, that will fix it.
[09:05] <dope> kk thx
[09:06] <astro> can someone help me configure wireless internet
[09:06] <astro> please.
[09:06] <joevandyk>     change_column :points, :user_id, :integer, :null => false" set the column to not allow nulls?
[09:06] <sn00p> Does anybody have any experience with microsd  storage with ubuntu? I have a AMD 64 bit turion x2 HP note book that i'm trying to get my microsd drive to work with having no luck
[09:06] <joevandyk> Oops.. why doesn't "change_column :points, :user_id, :integer, :null => false" set the user_id column to not allow nulls?
[09:06] <shrndegruv> guys noone can help me with wireless?
[09:07] <shrndegruv> its stumping me...
[09:07] <joevandyk> oops, wrong channel
[09:07] <Mantice> What was that channel for beryl support ?
[09:07] <Mantice> I logged out and lost it.
[09:07] <splintax> is it normal for it to be quite slow when reading from an ntfs partition in ubuntu?
[09:08] <splintax> lazzareth
[09:08] <splintax> 	Mantice join #ubuntu-xgl
[09:08] <snowshoefox> found it, upstart.ubuntu.com
[09:09] <reorourke> splintax: thanks - to make sure I'm understanding you correctly, once I am at the point where I'm editing GRuB I have my linux HDD back as the master hard drive, windows as slave, right?
[09:09] <KenSentMe> I have two soundcards in my system. How can i make sure that in default ubuntu always uses one, except when i choose a program to use the other soundcard. Where do i do these things?
[09:10] <splintax> reorourke: you should be editing the grub configuration while running linux. that's the only way that you can get the grub configuration to be permanent.
[09:10] <dope> i tried the w32codecs and the mozilla-mplayer
[09:10] <dope> but the embeded wmv files don't play
[09:10] <splintax> reorourke: when editing grub from grub, the changes are only temporary, and will go back to what they were before next time you reboot.
[09:10] <splintax> reorourke: but as i say, i learnt this today while trying to set up my machine to dual-boot
[09:11] <splintax> reorourke: only i'm going from windows only to win+lin, opposite to you.
[09:11] <splintax> reorourke: so you should probably get separate confirmation that what i'm saying is all correct.
[09:11] <reorourke> splintax: thanks
[09:11] <reorourke> anyone else able to confirm?
[09:12] <astro> so is anyone avaliable to help me out in getting my wireless to connect to the router
[09:13] <brutopia> astro: what kind of wireless interface you have
[09:13] <gabrielg> morning
[09:13] <astro> internal on my HP notebook zd8000
[09:13] <astro> connecting to a Belkin router
[09:13] <brutopia> intel centrino?
[09:13] <gabrielg> quick question: what's the uid and gid of the 'ubuntu' user on the Edgy Live CD?
[09:13] <ruxpin> gabrielg: getent passwd | grep ubuntu
[09:13] <gabrielg> i don't have any possibility to test atm, but need to write instructions
[09:13] <lazzareth> gabrielg, Wouldnt it be 1000 ?
[09:14] <ruxpin> gabrielg: id backuppc
[09:14] <ruxpin> gabrielg: id ubuntu, I mean :)
[09:14] <astro> brutopia, im unsure, its a P4 is all I know
[09:14] <gabrielg> lazzareth: it sounds reasonable, yes. it's the common one isn't it
[09:14] <gabrielg> ruxpin: but i'm not running the live cd right now, unfortunately, or i wouldn't be asking ;)
[09:14] <astro> i just know its an HP Pavilion zd8000
[09:15] <gabrielg> i just figured that *somebody* in here should be running the cd right now :)
[09:16] <brutopia> astro: write sudo lspci |grep -i broadcom on the shell and paste what it outputs
[09:16] <astro> its really starting to get to me lol
[09:17] <brutopia> is this BCM94306 string there
[09:17] <astro> 0b:03.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g]  802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[09:17] <brutopia> look what google gave as the first result: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=190177
[09:18] <dfgas> !dma
[09:18] <ubotu> dma is Direct Memory Access/Addressing. It makes hard disks & optical drives transfer data faster, and is almost always enabled in Ubuntu 6.06. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DMA
[09:18] <astro> brutopia, BCM4318
[09:19] <astro> oh
[09:19] <brutopia> ?
[09:19] <brutopia> I solved whole thing with two google queries
[09:20] <astro> thanks!
[09:20] <brutopia> first I googled your laptop's model to find out it's wlan interface's model and then googled the model and "ubuntu"
[09:20] <MikeDK> Hi all
[09:23] <Han> hi. I installed server and then xubuntu-desktop metapackage and then removed just the metapackage and now apt-get always suggests to use autoremove to remove all the packages required by the xubuntu-desktop metapackage. How do I make apt-get understand I like those packages (at least most of them)
[09:24] <deep__> Leave the metapackage? :)
[09:24] <Han> well it was suggested to remove the meta-package to be able to remove for instance cups.
[09:26] <HumanPrototype> hi all
[09:26] <MikeDK> hi there
[09:26] <HumanPrototype> if i install xubuntu from a beta cd then update will it be any different from installing using the normal cd?
[09:26] <MikeDK> afk a bit here
[09:27] <deep__> HumanPrototype: No. :)
[09:27] <MikeDK> probably u wont get all the new updates since its a beta u using
[09:27] <HumanPrototype> ok, thanks
[09:27] <HumanPrototype> also
[09:27] <HumanPrototype> i know this may be the wrong channel
[09:27] <HumanPrototype> but is this for dapper or edgy?
[09:28] <MikeDK> dapper
[09:28] <HumanPrototype> as dapper is LTS but edgy is the latest release
[09:28] <HumanPrototype> ok
[09:28] <MikeDK> i thnk nopt sure at the moment
[09:28] <MikeDK> upps not sure
[09:28] <SurfnKid> how can i check the Flash version of FF
[09:29] <deep__> MikeDK, You wont get new updates? I thought you did?
[09:29] <mistform> I have 7 installed, but most sites read version 5 or some crap like that
[09:29] <deep__> Your using the same repos, right?
[09:29] <HumanPrototype> and finally, is edgy+1 just edgy and they alter it from there or do they start afresh for some reason.
[09:30] <MikeDK> deep_ : well isnt it a beta hes using then its probably not all up to date
[09:30] <HumanPrototype> and can i run edgy+1 or is that the stupidest idea since the square wheel?
[09:30] <HumanPrototype> MikeDK, i will update from the repos after install
[09:31] <mistform> anyone here having problems with wine involving wineprefixcreate???
[09:31] <shrndegruv> guys to install compiz, what do i put in sources.list?
[09:31] <mistform> I can't install IE6
[09:31] <MikeDK> deep_ : or am I tottaly wrong here not that good yet in linux just trying to help
[09:32] <HumanPrototype> MikeDK, thanks, much better than no answers at all
[09:32] <MikeDK> thx man
[09:33] <MikeDK> better to try than not to try at all right??
[09:33] <MikeDK> lol mistform what u want with ie6
[09:34] <mistform> MikeDK, there are some sites I want to see but they are only for IE and flash 8+
[09:35] <mistform> I can't install anything above flash 7 for FF, and even then the website thinks i Have something below flashplayer 6
[09:35] <MikeDK> mistform: oooh right try adobe labs for the flash 9 beta
[09:35] <mistform> I did
[09:35] <mistform> It will only let me download flash 7
[09:35] <shrndegruv> noone can help me modify my repositories?
[09:35] <mistform> I was on the site for hours to get the damn site to work
[09:35] <shrndegruv> common guys im an ubuntu virgin
[09:35] <MikeDK> mistform: k i tryed it to but dosnt seem to work right in fox
[09:36] <smoenux> somebody... please help me T_T .... I cannot connect to my stupid router for some reason. I put in the IP and it just loads for ages, and eventually Firefox just connects to it's default home page :(
[09:36] <MikeDK> mistform: just a sec have a link here
[09:36] <mistform> shrndegruv, dapper or edgy or what?
[09:36] <shrndegruv> edgy
[09:37] <mistform> shrndegruv, this is for dapper drake: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[09:37] <shrndegruv> trying to get xgl going
[09:37] <gnomefreak> !repos | shrndegruv
[09:37] <ubotu> shrndegruv: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[09:37] <shrndegruv> i need multiverse universe and the beer repository
[09:37] <mistform> wow
[09:37] <smoenux> ooh shrndegruv ... got a really good howto on the forums
[09:37] <mistform> could my laptop lag anyfucking mroe????
[09:37] <smoenux> i get the link quick
[09:37] <gnomefreak> shrndegruv: join #ubuntu-xgl for help with that please
[09:37] <Mantice> Could some one help me with beryl I tryed the other room but they were all afk, Ive really screwed up beryl.
[09:37] <shrndegruv> yeah noone there
[09:37] <gnomefreak> mistform: watch your language please
[09:37] <HumanPrototype> is using feisty a stupid idea?
[09:37] <Mantice> Sorry.
[09:38] <gnomefreak> HumanPrototype: yes
[09:38] <mRCUTEO> anyone knows what package i needed to install EGGDROP.. sudo apt-get install ?
[09:38] <mistform> shrndegruv, here's the Edgy guide: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[09:38] <HumanPrototype> gnomefreak, thanks - ill stick with edgy for a month or so then
[09:38] <gnomefreak> mRCUTEO: try asking that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[09:38] <smoenux> shrndegruv: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[09:38] <mRCUTEO> k
[09:39] <MikeDK> mistform: http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Flash_Player:Additional_Interface_Support_for_Linux#Building_and_installing
[09:39] <ThomasPorter> Is ubuntu good for servers?
[09:39] <MikeDK> mistform: yo try this link
[09:39] <gnomefreak> ThomasPorter: yes
[09:39] <Madpilot> ThomasPorter, ubuntu.com runs their own product, and it seems to work, so yes. :)
[09:39] <mistform> It's loading.... thanks to my slow slow slow slow and even more exceptionally slow today laptop
[09:39] <Mantice> When I try and start a XGL session it just log's me back out.
[09:39] <ThomasPorter> gronefreak: Better then debian?
[09:39] <gnomefreak> ThomasPorter: same
[09:40] <ThomasPorter> Thought so.
[09:40] <MikeDK> afk a bit here
[09:40] <ThomasPorter> I just loaded a debian box and I forgot to stick the eth cable in.. when I got to the apt configration part It came up with an error.. so I plugged it in.. although It still comes up with this error, i've even restarted.
[09:40] <ThomasPorter> Its a debian question, but their all idle ;)
[09:41] <ThomasPorter> ubuntu's the next best thing :P
[09:41] <ThomasPorter> Its a normal 'failed to fetch' error.. i've tried different mirrors too
[09:41] <mRCUTEO> ThomasPorter: i build a webserver / irc server / game server with ubuntu :)
[09:41] <Mantice> Could some one help me Please ?
[09:41] <defrysk> ThomasPorter, reinstal with cable plugged in might help, otherwise try an ubuntu -install ;p
[09:42] <KenSentMe> I have two soundcards in my system. How can i make sure that in default ubuntu always uses one, except when i choose a program to use the other soundcard. Where do i do these things?
[09:42] <ThomasPorter> :P
[09:42] <ThomasPorter> This has been an extra long installation :|
[09:42] <ThomasPorter> Because I was writing a tutorial aswell
[09:42] <defrysk> ThomasPorter, and have fun in the debian irc's
[09:42] <gnomefreak> Mantice: xglor compiz is crashing please ask that in #ubuntu-xgl. look in topic if there is noone there iirc there are help links there
[09:43] <ThomasPorter> Thanks
[09:43] <shrndegruv> hey how do i install mirc?
[09:43] <gnomefreak> KenSentMe: why 2 cards?
[09:44] <gnomefreak> shrndegruv: in wine or windows
[09:44] <shrndegruv> ubuntu
[09:44] <ThomasPorter> Does irc support linux?
[09:44] <yakumo> Hi anyone familiar with the UIM applet?
[09:44] <Mantice> gnomefreak, I followed a wiki but it came up with a error message so I followed another wiki and now it says nothing.
[09:44] <defrysk> shrndegruv, in linux try xchat
[09:44] <shrndegruv> is it apt-get xchat?
[09:44] <CarinArr> thomasporter, erm.. you serious?
[09:44] <Mantice> gnomefreak, So now I have like files all around the place all messed up.
[09:44] <defrysk> shrndegruv, yes
[09:44] <gnomefreak> shrndegruv: sudo apt-get install xchat
[09:45] <shrndegruv> couldnt find xchat
[09:45] <gnomefreak> Mantice: i havent run xgl/compiz in a long time. im more on the lines of beryl. you would really need to ask in #ubuntu-xgl or #xgl or #compiz
[09:45] <gnomefreak> shrndegruv: enable universe repo
[09:45] <KenSentMe> gnomefreak: well, i have two becuase my onboard didn't always work well. I would like to play all sounds on one card that is connected to my hifi set (for listening to music, radio etc.) But if i e.g. am talking to someone on skype/teamspeak or play a game i want to use the other that connected to my headset
[09:46] <Fallen_Angel> Excuse me - can someone help me  with my ubuntu ???
[09:46] <shrndegruv> oye
[09:46] <shrndegruv> ok
[09:46] <shrndegruv> manana
[09:46] <shrndegruv> i give up for now
[09:46] <Mantice> gnomefreak, do you know how to fix terminals ?
[09:46] <gnomefreak> Mantice: define fix terminals
[09:46] <KenSentMe> gnomefreak: is there a command i can use to make a program use a specific sound device?
[09:46] <Fallen_Angel> Excuse me - can someone help me  with my ubuntu ???
[09:46] <defrysk> !ask | Fallen_Angel
[09:46] <ubotu> Fallen_Angel: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:46] <Mantice> gnomefreak, some thing really stange is happening to my computer
[09:46] <CarinArr> fallen_angel, just ask
[09:46] <e_machinist> In a default Ubuntu install, are the default display drivers the DRI drivers?
[09:47] <gnomefreak> KenSentMe: there is but i dont remember what it is since edgy can by default play more than one sound per card now and dapper had a package to isntall for multi sounds
[09:47] <e_machinist> If it detects an ATI card (or even an NV).
[09:47] <Mantice> gnomefreak, You know how when you open up your console and it says its ready with the  user@computer
[09:47] <gnomefreak> Mantice: yes?
[09:47] <Mantice> gnomefreak, It takes like 1 min now for that to happen before It was instant.
[09:47] <dope> do you think cats have motions?
[09:47] <jcrimt> !rt2500
[09:47] <ubotu> rt2500: configuration tool for wireless RT2500 network cards. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.0+cvs20060620-3 (edgy), package size 106 kB, installed size 404 kB
[09:48] <Fallen_Angel> !ask I have a problem with Russian Language support in php5 it displays it in some different way like "?!?!?" , i think that the problem is with the mbstring
[09:48] <gnomefreak> Mantice: what console what version of ubuntu what desktop?
[09:48] <joachim-n> is there a log of what synaptic has installed recently?
[09:48] <Mantice> Im using Dapper
[09:48] <gnomefreak> Mantice: also xgl/compiz might be causing that too
[09:48] <mRCUTEO> dapper roocks
[09:48] <mzli> Fallen_Angel:ask in ##php
[09:48] <Mantice> gnomefreak, GNOME Terminal 2.14.2
[09:49] <jcrimt> !help
[09:49] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl  -  Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:49] <Mantice> gnomefreak, how do I uninstall it
[09:49] <mzli>  jcrimt: say
[09:49] <gnomefreak> joachim-n: there are a few logs in /var/log i cant remember what one is what your looking for off hand
[09:49] <joachim-n> thanks
[09:49] <tarelerulz> do any of you know of media player that plays over samba
[09:49] <Mantice> gnomefreak, I found out what it was it was that beryl icon in the tray.
[09:50] <joachim-n> looks like  dpkg.log
[09:50] <gnomefreak> Mantice: beryl or xgl?
[09:50] <mistform> MikeDK, I get errors from everywhere, so I just want to get wine to work
[09:50] <gnomefreak> Mantice: or both
[09:50] <e_machinist> In order to use the Open Source DRI drivers for an ATI card, should the xorg.conf Driver be "ati" or "radeon"? I have seen both used for the DRI drivers.
[09:50] <Mantice> gnomefreak: I was installing beryl but it told me to log out and select XGL session or somthing like that.
[09:51] <Mantice> gnomefreak: I did not update to the latest kernal because I wanted beryl.
[09:51] <Fallen_Angel> Please can someone help me with my ubuntu ? I have a problem with mbstring ! How can i enable Russian Language support in php5 mbstring ??? Using Ubuntu 6.06
[09:51] <gnomefreak> Mantice: you nee dto remove all packages related to xgl compiz beryl
[09:51] <Mantice> gnomefreak: Is there a command ?
[09:52] <mistform> e_machinist, do you use Dapper? http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Dapper_Installation_Guide
[09:52] <yakumo> dad  
[09:52] <yakumo> sori
[09:52] <gnomefreak> Mantice: i dont know what you installed but you can start with synaptic and search for those and remove them
[09:52] <Mantice> gnomefreak: I also did a whole bunch of config file editing, Im not sure how Im going to remove that.
[09:52] <defrysk> anyway the amaranth repo is synconized again with the latest edgy updates
[09:53] <jcrimt> !help
[09:53] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl  -  Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[09:53] <gnomefreak> Mantice: the link you got those instructions from just follow it backwards :)
[09:53] <Trist_an> anyone done the update of fglrx?
[09:53] <Mantice> gnomefreak: I found one of them but I cant find that other guide I followed.
[09:54] <Mantice> gnomefreak: Im sure it will be ok.
[09:54] <jcrimt> !rt2500
[09:54] <ubotu> rt2500: configuration tool for wireless RT2500 network cards. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.1.0+cvs20060620-3 (edgy), package size 106 kB, installed size 404 kB
[09:54] <e_machinist> Trist_an: Open Source DRI drivers here.
[09:54] <Trist_an> well, I hope there will be no trouble...
[09:57] <tarelerulz> Being able to play songs on my freinds windows computer over the network is not to out there
[09:58] <dope> adf
[09:58] <dope> adfd
[09:58] <jcrimt> !wireless
[09:58] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:59] <ndee> anyone in here who knows assembler a bit?
[09:59] <boink> on #ubuntu?
[09:59] <ndee> well maybe, who knows :)
[10:05] <MikeDK> be back l8r guys
[10:06] <deep__> helo moto!
[10:08] <sn00p> Does anybody have any experience with microsd  storage with ubuntu? I have a AMD 64 bit turion x2 HP note book that i'm trying to get my microsd drive to work with having no luck
[10:09] <Lathiat> sn00p: "generally speaking" those sorts of things tend not to work
[10:09] <Lathiat> sn00p: some do, most dont, AIUI
[10:16] <Gavrila> hey all, I've got a problem with power management: if I hibernate my laptop with AC plugged in and then resume the session on battery only, it doesn't detect that I'm on battery.... any hint?
[10:16] <aldwin> wassup people
[10:16] <Gavrila> hi aldwin
[10:16] <Gavrila> hey all, I've got a problem with power management: if I hibernate my laptop with AC plugged in and then resume the session on battery only, it doesn't detect that I'm on battery.... any hint?
[10:16] <Gavrila> I'm on Ubuntu edgy
[10:17] <aldwin> is there anyone here who's indept with ubuntu knowledge. im quite a newbie at linux. can anyone help me out?
[10:17] <defrysk> !ask | aldwin
[10:17] <ubotu> aldwin: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:17] <tarelerulz> I can play mpg and wma and wmv with totme-xine ,but I don't have sound  anyone know why or what I might do
[10:17] <aldwin> degrysk, can i chat with you via PM (private message)?
[10:17] <defrysk> aldwin, nope
[10:17] <aldwin> ah okay..
[10:18] <aldwin> degrysky, since im new here. i dont know where to start although i had installed the ubuntu at my second hard disk and it worked
[10:18] <aldwin> degrysky, i happen to have so many question on how to use it and what it differs to other linux.
[10:19] <aldwin> degrysky, by the way im from the philippines and i dont have the money nor the access to buy the ubuntu book. do you happen to have the pdf of that one?
[10:19] <aldwin> is there anyone here who's indept with ubuntu knowledge. im quite a newbie at linux. can anyone help me out?
[10:20] <Lynoure> aldwin: just ask your actual question, and you'll see
[10:20] <aldwin> degrysky, i dont even know the difference with ubuntu xubuntu and edubuntu. what are those.
[10:20] <defrysk> aldwin, just open firefox , the default opening page has links to help you thru the first steps
[10:20] <aldwin> degrysky, so where do i start???
[10:20] <aldwin> degrysky, ah okay. thank you very much
[10:21] <manmadha> Is there any inbuilt software for flash programs...?
[10:21] <aldwin> degrysky, just to add. im using my windows that i hate most since i dont know how to run a mirc at ubuntu.
[10:22] <defrysk> aldwin, sudo apt-get install xchat and use that
[10:22] <aldwin> degrysky, im really lame right now. im so sorry to all you guys...
[10:22] <andry_cute> hai
[10:22] <aldwin> degrysky, i dont even know how to get there.
[10:22] <defrysk> my bad
[10:23] <aldwin> degrysky, but i do believe that soon i'll be an expert user of this linux thing. i have all the will to study :))
[10:23] <aldwin> degrysky, LOL
[10:23] <mandelum> A terrible bug has hit me in edgy!!!
[10:23] <mandelum> probobly in GNOME
[10:23] <mandelum> I am very struck
[10:23] <defrysk> Hobbsee, just smelling, not sure yet
[10:24] <Hobbsee> defrysk: right
[10:24] <boink> c'mon, don't troll here
[10:24] <boink> it's not funny
[10:24] <aldwin> degrysky, the bad thing is that the 6.10 didnt work on my computer thats why i did use the ubuntu 6.06 :(
[10:24] <aldwin> troll??? whats that ???
[10:25] <aldwin> can anyone tell me what does troll suppose to mean?
[10:25] <boink> !troll
[10:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about troll - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:26] <loutrine> Is xchat much better then gaim for irc usage? Any features which are worth changing for?
[10:26] <mandelum> I by mistake resized the panel to the max, then it logged out, then when it logged in it logged out agian.... Then when I logged in, I just had time to make the panel smaler, but now, when I restarted a couple of times, the sound loops and everything is quite slow, and I get some warnings about some stuff on the panel
[10:26] <boink> loutrine: depends on what you need to do
[10:26] <boink> xchat is only for irc, gaim is for much more
[10:26] <loutrine> boink: Hmm, good question...
[10:26] <mandelum> How could I reset some stuff?
[10:27] <aldwin> degrysky, is sudo a user name?
[10:27] <boink> I use gaim for MSN stuff, while irssi for irc (like now)
[10:27] <Madpilot> loutrine, XChat's channel list is easier to find, it's got a GUI to read a channel's banlist, and it's generally far more flexible &complete for IRC than gaim
[10:27] <loutrine> boink: Is there any reason you don't use gaim for irc as well?
[10:27] <Mantice> I got beryl to boot but now it just is a white screen every thing is white, Heh
[10:28] <boink> loutrine: I prefer irssi since I prefer to do irc on the cli
[10:28] <boink> nerd thing :)
[10:28] <defrysk> aldwin, username ? where did you get that term from being so new at this ?
[10:28] <loutrine> boink: epenis +1 :P?
[10:28] <boink> yeah, suppose so :)
[10:28] <aldwin> * Topic is 'Welcome to the official Ubuntu support channel! | Edgy Is Released!!! http://tinyurl.com/ybflyf Upgrade: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to Pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/'
[10:28] <aldwin> * Set by LjL on Thu Nov 02 23:28:16
[10:28] <aldwin> * Topic is 'Welcome to the official Ubuntu support channel! | Edgy Is Released!!! http://tinyurl.com/ybflyf Upgrade: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades | Support options: http://www.ubuntu.com/support | FAQ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage | Pastes to Pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/'
[10:28] <aldwin> * Set by LjL on Thu Nov 02 23:28:16
[10:28] <loutrine> Madpilot: thanks :)
[10:29] <aldwin> sorry
[10:29] <Madpilot> aldwin, easy with the pasting...
[10:29] <aldwin> so sorry...
[10:29] <aldwin> Madpilot, sorry
[10:29] <loutrine> I'll check out xchat and maybe irssi if i'm feeling cool... ;)
[10:29] <Mantice> Madpilot, do you use beryl or know much about it ?
[10:29] <aldwin> (im did try to copy and i wasn't that focus. im so sorry)
[10:29] <Madpilot> Mantice, don't touch it, know zip about it. Sorry!
[10:30] <aldwin> is there a ubuntu pdf???
[10:30] <Mantice> :( Any one know why my beryl boots and then stays on a white screen
[10:30] <aldwin> is there any sort of ubuntu pdf that is with an official release?
[10:30] <loutrine> Mantice: Looked through these http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=beryl+white+screen&btnG=Google+Search&meta= ?
[10:30] <Madpilot> aldwin, of the Desktop Guide, you mean? Yes - check help.ubuntu.com
[10:31] <aldwin> ah, okay.
[10:31] <aldwin> Madpilot, im not using ubuntu right now. cause i really em that lame that i dont know how to use all of it.
[10:31] <aldwin> madpilot, i dont even know how to run the mirc there. im so sorry
[10:32] <Madpilot> aldwin, isn't mirc Windows-only?
[10:32] <boink> well .. where's an op when there's a troll about?
[10:32] <Mantice> I dont know how to update xgl-xserver
[10:32] <loutrine> aldwin: In ubuntu, open a Terminal and type sudo apt-get install xchat. xchat is an irc program similar to mirc which you can use
[10:32] <aldwin> yup i know. but i dont know how to run it
[10:32] <manmadha> Is there any inbuilt software for flash programs...?
[10:32] <BlackBird> I just installed a bunch of new packages with aptitude, and suddenly now I get no graphical login screen. I turn on the computer, load my ubuntu kernel, and it loads into a textual login screen. I have to startx, and then it automatically loads up gnome... however, I want to be able to choose what type of session I log into. If I try to logout, it just brings me back to the non-x console.
[10:32] <Madpilot> boink, which channel is having trouble?
[10:33] <manmadha> like html
[10:33] <aldwin> madpilot, here's how it goes. i tried installing it at my second hard disk and after 2 or three days i manage to make the ubuntu 6.06 run at my computer
[10:33] <loutrine> aldwin: xchat will appear under in Applications -> Internet
[10:33] <aldwin> madpilot, since my computer has this processor of 38. amd2 x2 64 bit. its quite hard to find a running linux at this computer
[10:34] <aldwin> madpilot, so there i was able to install the ubuntu 6.06 like i did said. it was this morning that i had accomplish that.
[10:34] <bimberi> BlackBird: does 'sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start' from the logged in non-x console work?
[10:34] <Madpilot> aldwin, the 32bit Ubuntu should run fine; there is also an AMD64 Ubuntu
[10:34] <BlackBird> idunno.... havent tried that
[10:34] <aldwin> and now its quite late. its noveber 8, 5pm. i just woke up.
[10:35] <aldwin> madpilot, i did try the those believe me. but only the ubuntu 6.06 did work on my computer.
[10:35] <bimberi> BlackBird: it's supposed to start gdm on boot - hopefully an indicative message will be shown
[10:36] <aldwin> madpilot, 6.06 alternative 64bit. thats the one that did run on my computer.
[10:36] <loutrine> aldwin: So you have Ubuntu installed and running now...?
[10:36] <sn00p> Does anybody have any experience with microsd  storage with ubuntu? I have a AMD 64 bit turion x2 HP note book that i'm trying to get my microsd drive to work with having no luck
[10:36] <Madpilot> aldwin, cool
[10:36] <Za1> hi - how do i get my s-video connection to projector working?  I am running Ubuntu 6.06 on Dell Laptop Inspiron 5100.
[10:36] <BlackBird> bimberi: I'll try that... thanks
[10:37] <aldwin> loutrine, yah i have. but since i dont know how to use much of linux software as well as ubuntu as a distribution. i dont even know how to install a yahoo messenger
[10:37] <Mantice> Could some one help me Im new to this it says re install from http://repos.opensuse.org/X11:/XGL/SUSE_Linux_10.1/ how would I go about this
[10:37] <loutrine> aldwin: gaim is a good all round IM program, give that a try.
[10:38] <defrysk> Mantice, try #ubuntu-xgl
[10:38] <Mantice> I have
[10:38] <Mantice> Every one = zzz
[10:38] <Madpilot> aldwin, gaim can do YM, and the help files are at System menu->Help->System Help->Ubuntu Desktop Guide
[10:38] <defrysk> Mantice, xgl that boring ? ;p
[10:39] <Za1> has anyone able to connect to a projector before?
[10:39] <Mantice> defrysk: My beryl is whiting out and I need to fix it because I just spent an hour trying to get this thing working
[10:39] <loutrine> Mantice: I found a really good, easy to follow guide for setting up xgl+beryl under edgy (gnome) if you're interested...
[10:40] <Mantice> Sure, Ive installed beryl though.
[10:40] <Mantice> It boots it just whites out.
[10:40] <BlackBird> hrm.... didnt work
[10:40] <loutrine> Mantice: http://lhansen.blogspot.com/2006/10/3d-desktop-beryl-and-xgl-on-ubuntu-edgy.html
[10:40] <defrysk> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA is the guide I used
[10:41] <defrysk> but beryl is too unstable for usage I think
[10:41] <andry_cute> h
[10:41] <elias_> are the nvidia 9629 dirvers available somewhere already as restricted-modules.deb?
[10:41] <Mantice> I followed that one :( :(
[10:41] <loutrine> defrysk: Mine's running ok :) I had a few problems though... hehe
[10:41] <defrysk> elias_, amaranth's repo has it
[10:42] <Mantice> loutrine: did you get white screen ?
[10:42] <elias_> cool
[10:42] <loutrine> Mantice: I'm typing this to you from it now - works a treat :)
[10:42] <defrysk> elias_, amaranth's is synronized again with the edgy updates
[10:43] <Mantice> loutrine: Was one of the problems you ran into a white screen by any chance, my beryl boots *Finaly* now it just says Beryl and waves around then it whites out.
[10:43] <jaaroo> can I somehow obtain list of packages that are installed which is suitable for "apt-get install". I would like to make copy of my installation.
[10:43] <BlackBird> how would I invoke an icewm or kde session from terminal, or better yet, how would I set up the graphical login screen to autostart after kernel loadup? Right now it just loads into text login, then when I login it automatically starts gnome
[10:44] <loutrine> Mantice: No, sorry. The only problems I experienced were two instances of emerald running & had to fix the annoying shift+backspace feature/bug
[10:44] <elias_> does anybody know if they fixed the turbocache issue which rendered most laptop cards unusable?
[10:44] <Mantice> Does beryl work on the latest kernal loutrine ?
[10:45] <loutrine> Mantice: Running it under Linux edgy 2.6.17-10-generic
[10:46] <Mantice> I got a update saying kernal update on my Dapper
[10:46] <jcrimt> I recently updated my Ubuntu 5.1 which was working perfecty to 6.1. This hangs on the welcome screen by giving a blank cream screen. Even the live CD struggles - it periodically goes blank - cream screen. I used several differnent 6.1 discs with the same result. I have not had to reload 5.1 which works perfectly again. Any ideas?
[10:48] <BlackBird>  how would I invoke an icewm or kde session from terminal, or better yet, how would I set up the graphical login screen to autostart after kernel loadup? Right now it just loads into text login, then when I login it automatically starts gnome
[10:48] <dooglus> jcrimt: first off, you're not supposed to upgrade 5.10 to 6.10 without going to 6.06 in between
[10:48] <opasd> hi,guys
[10:49] <dooglus> jcrimt: (the .10 refers to the month of release - October, and the 5 and 6 are the years)
[10:49] <opasd> i am using router to connect to internet
[10:50] <jcrimt> dooglus - sorry, yes, I was on the most recent release - I updated using the synaptic update - how should I update now ?
[10:50] <loutrine> opasd: Me too :)
[10:50] <dooglus> BlackBird: check which runlevel you are booting into: grep ^id /etc/inittab | cut -d: -f2
[10:51] <opasd> first i unplug the network cable,then i plug it again,how do i connect to internet later?
[10:51] <dooglus> jcrimt: you installed 5.10 and the update-manager offered to upgrade to 'dapper' (6.06)?
[10:51] <opasd> i means by using command
[10:52] <BlackBird> dooglus: it returns "2"
[10:52] <dooglus> opasd: "sudo ifdown eth0; sudo ifup eth0"
[10:52] <jcrimt> yes, I had actually already upgraded to dapper - it was fine - it was the update to edgy that killed me. I have just reinstalled 5.1 (?hoary)
[10:52] <dooglus> BlackBird: right.  that's the default.  check whether you have links in place to run gdm in runlevel 2:  ls -l /etc/rc2.d/*gdm
[10:52] <opasd> thanks
[10:53] <dooglus> jcrimt: lots of people apparently had trouble upgrading to 6.06.  maybe it's better to stick with 6.06 for now?  I don't know what the official advice is re. upgrading to 6.10 at the moment.
[10:53] <BlackBird> dooglus: lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 13 2006-11-07 18:39 /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm -> ../init.d/gdm
[10:54] <dooglus> BlackBird: the 'S' is for 'start' - ie. it should start gdm (the graphical login thing) automatically when you boot.
[10:54] <jcrimt> Ok thanks - I will have to try and find my  disc. Thans mate
[10:55] <Gavrila> is there any way to make acpi update informations about the current status? I hibernated my laptop while on AC, and resumed it on battery only, but it refuses to detect the battery now.... any hint?
[10:55] <dooglus> BlackBird: what happens if you run "sudo /etc/init.,d/gdm start" after logging in to the console?
[10:55] <dooglus> BlackBird: (without the comma)
[10:56] <BlackBird> dooglus: not sure. lemme check
[10:56] <JohnRobert> where abouts would I put source code for libraries I wanted to compile things against... like instead of downloading a -dev package, where would a normal configure script be looking for source?
[10:56] <defrysk> "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start"
[10:56] <dooglus> Gavrila: just a guess, but how about "sudo /etc/init.d/acpid restart" ?
[10:56] <rsteele> I'll think about it
[10:56] <opasd> i am using firefox now,if i want to upgrade to firefox 2,what should i do?
[10:57] <defrysk> opasd, I would upgrade to edgy then
[10:57] <Gavrila> dooglus, I've already tried that, but no way
[10:57] <scheuri> defrysk: that is...well...not the recommandation which should be easily taken
[10:58] <dooglus> JohnRobert: build the library then use "sudo checkinstall" to install it as a package.  configure looks in /usr/lib/pkgconfig/ for a corresponding .pc file
[10:58] <dooglus> Gavrila: what happens?  any error message?  anything in the logs?  (/var/log/*)
[10:58] <JohnRobert> thanks dooglus that's some sound advice
[10:59] <dooglus> JohnRobert: you'll need to install "checkinstall" probably.  it's a lazy-man's way of making packages
[10:59] <JohnRobert> I am quite lazy, so that's useful
[10:59] <defrysk> JohnRobert, packages made by checkinstall are for personal usage only
[10:59] <dooglus> JohnRobert: don't run the "make install" step - "sudo checkinstall" is instead of doing that
[11:00] <Gavrila> dooglus when I restart it the script doesn't return any message, and dmesg says that the battery is not present
[11:01] <dooglus> Gavrila: that's the limit of my knowledge in that area I'm afraid.  my battery died years ago, and I never hibernate...
[11:01] <Gavrila> dooglus, hehe ok thanks
[11:02] <boni> !Sedega
[11:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Sedega - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:02] <dooglus> boni: cedega?
[11:04] <BlackBird> dooglus: nothing. It asked for my password, and then just went back to prompt. I had to run startx to get into a graphical interface, and again, it just loaded gnome
[11:05] <dooglus> BlackBird: I have this in my ~/.Xsession : http://s89213869.onlinehome.us/.Xsession  - I uncomment whichever line at the end corresponds to the desktop environment I want startx to run
[11:05] <djuuss> Hi. My /home is mounted on its own partition, but now it's starting to fill up. How can i mount another partition on a folder inside home? (lets call it /home/djuuss/downloads. /home is on dev/hdd1, the new partition is /dev/hdc2 )
[11:06] <dooglus> BlackBird: was there no output at all from the 'gdm restart' command?
[11:06] <Burnass> does someone now how to fix bad sectors on a USB-stick?
[11:06] <dav1n_> Burnass: tried fsck?
[11:06] <dooglus> djuuss: for a one-off mount, do "sudo mount /dev/hdc2 /home/djuuss/downloads"
[11:06] <BlackBird> dooglus: no. The only indication that anything happened was that it asked for a password.
[11:06] <dooglus> djuuss: if you want it done automatically, edit /etc/fstab - make a copy of the /home line and modify it appropriately
[11:07] <djuuss> did that
[11:07] <dav1n_> dooglus: sudo fsck /dev/whatever
[11:07] <dooglus> BlackBird: see anything written to /var/log/gdm/*?
[11:07] <djuuss> dooglus, added it in both fstab and mtab but it still gives "mount: can't find /home/djuuuss/downloads in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:07] <Burnass> dav:1n that checks if there are bad sectors, and i know there are bad ones (log of mkfs.vat)
[11:07] <Shadowpillar> fsck that hard and long
[11:07] <Shadowpillar> ;)
[11:08] <boni> I am facing a strange problem I changed the mode of my sudoers file from originally 440 to 644 but strangely I dont know nw sudoers is nt visible
[11:08] <Burnass> or can i repaire with fsck
[11:09] <BlackBird> dooglus: just a bunch of warnings then a "cant init" messagej
[11:09] <boni> The freakiest part is tht it says the mode has been changed frm o440 to 0644
[11:09] <dooglus> BlackBird: can you pastebin it?
[11:09] <boni> now how can i revert to the original modes or read write permissions of sudoers
[11:09] <dooglus> djuuss: can you pastebin your /etc/fstab please?
[11:09] <boni> can anyonme help me out??
[11:09] <dav1n_> Burnass: Not sure, try it though.
[11:10] <Burnass> oke i will
[11:10] <djuuss> dooglus: Mistyped djuuss in my sudo mount /home/djuuss/downloads haha, it worked with fstab/mtab entries already
[11:10] <dooglus> boni: sudo chmod 440 /etc/sudoers
[11:10] <dooglus> djuuss: no need to edit /etc/mtab
[11:10] <boni> dooglus: Thats nt happening
[11:10] <boni> the sudo is nt being executed
[11:10] <djuuss> dooglus did both of them, thanks tho
[11:10] <tx22> Hey, I'm using thunderbird for my email but I need to setup the smtp server... does anyone know a free one? Thanks
[11:10] <boni> i tried tht
[11:11] <Burnass> strange now i get no log of bad sectors.
[11:11] <Burnass> fsck 1.38 (30-Jun-2005)
[11:11] <Burnass> dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN
[11:11] <Burnass> /dev/sda1: 0 files, 1/244501 clusters
[11:11] <dooglus> boni: sounds like you've broken sudo then.  if you've set a proper root password then "su" to get a root shell, otherwise you're going to have to boot into recovery mode to fix it
[11:12] <dooglus> djuuss: for future reference, you should use "sudo visudo" to edit the sudoers file, rather than editing it 'manually'
[11:12] <dooglus> djuuss: that way you can't break it so easily...
[11:12] <gnomefreak> !mp3 | khajjak
[11:12] <ubotu> khajjak: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:13] <dooglus> um - those last 2 comments were for boni
[11:13] <khajjak> how i play mp3 files in ubuntu?>
[11:13] <khajjak> anyone help me
[11:13] <dooglus> !mp3
[11:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:13] <greenman> hello
[11:13] <greenman> anyone get awstats package to work?
[11:13] <boni> dooglus: Wat do i have to do to fix this problem from recovery mode???
[11:13] <BlackBird> dooglus: that's it...
[11:13] <Burnass> wel it seems that the bad sectors are repaired strage
[11:13] <boni> dooglus: I think I only have to fix the sudoers file
[11:14] <njan> tx22, think about that question for a second ;)
[11:14] <dooglus> boni: what error are you getting when you try to "sudo" at the moment?
[11:14] <njan> tx22, a "free" SMTP server would allow anyone to send e-mail to anyone through it - it's what's called an "open relay"..
[11:14] <Burnass> tnx
[11:14] <boni> I mean the permissions of this sudoers file??
[11:14] <njan> tx22, which is why virtually every SMTP server only allows mail to be sent from whoever the SMTP server is setup for (ie. an ISP's customers)..
[11:14] <jcrimt> Does anyone know how to configure a Canon 250i usb printer?
[11:14] <dooglus> boni: the permissions should be "440"; so "chmod 440 /etc/sudoers; chown root:root /etc/sudoers"
[11:14] <greenman> anyone get awstats package to work?
[11:14] <tx22> njan; I'm not going to be sending junk email.
[11:14] <djuuss> njan: not true, a large portion SMTP servers are setup 'free', thats where you've been getting all that junk email from
[11:15] <njan> djuuss, let me rephrase.. virtually every *legitimate* SMTP server.. ;)
[11:15] <boni> dooglus: I did sudo chmod 440 /etc/passwd
[11:15] <djuuss> njan, you'd be surprised
[11:15] <dooglus> BlackBird: what's it?
[11:15] <boni> it gives
[11:15] <boni> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0644, should be 0440
[11:16] <BlackBird> dooglus: I posted that log to a pm... u got pm's blocked or something?
[11:16] <greenman> Anyone get awstats package to work?
[11:16] <dooglus> boni: right.  sudo refuses to run because the permissions are wrong on sudoers.  and to fix them, you need to use sudo...  it's a catch 22 situation.  so boot into recovery mode - then you'll be root, and can 'chmod' the file without using sudo
[11:16] <njan> djuuss, no, I know, it's quite common. But still. It's generally done accidentally or through ignorance rather than because the server's specifically free for open use.
[11:16] <dooglus> BlackBird: freenode doesn't allow pms if you're not registered with nickserv
[11:16] <jcrimt> !canon 250i
[11:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about canon 250i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <dooglus> BlackBird: "/msg nickserv register pa$$word"
[11:17] <BlackBird> dooglus: ah ok.
[11:17] <djuuss> njan i'll give you that :D i think lazyness also plays a very big part here
[11:17] <njan> tx22, you're not, but everyone else using that server probably is, which means it'll probably not stay online long, be slow, and have your mail dropped by spam filters, because the server you send through will be listed on one of the (many) realtime blocklists.
[11:17] <jcrimt> ! printer canon 250i
[11:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about printer canon 250i - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:17] <tx22> ok
[11:17] <njan> tx22, the best solution is to use an authenticated SMTP server, or one provided by your ISP or what have you.
[11:18] <tx22> njan:  i tried that, i use pipex, but it doesn't seem to work
[11:18] <Aachron> --am I in the right place to ask if there is a task sceduler?
[11:18] <njan> tx22, define: doesn't seem to work
[11:18] <njan> Aachron, cron
[11:19] <tx22> njan:  well, i use smtp.pipex.net/com and it doesn't send
[11:19] <greenman> Can someone help me?  I need awstats to work.  I can't find any help
[11:19] <greenman> there is no man file
[11:19] <snowshoe1ox> Are there any IDEs that support a broadrange of programming languages such as bash, perl, c, c++, upstart script ?
[11:20] <tx22> njan:  ok ignore me, lol, I done a search on google and it was "smtp.dial.pipex.com"
[11:20] <jcrimt> ! usb printer
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about usb printer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <greenman> ! awstats
[11:20] <ubotu> awstats: powerful and featureful web server log analyzer. In component main, is optional. Version 6.5-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 834 kB, installed size 4644 kB
[11:20] <greenman> arg!
[11:20] <njan> tx22, :)
[11:20] <khajjak> which player i need to play mp3 files in ubuntu?
[11:20] <CarinArr> !mp3
[11:20] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:20] <snowshoe1ox> !ide
[11:20] <defrysk> !players
[11:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ide - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:20] <ubotu> Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:21] <dooglus> khajjak: beep-media-player is a nice simple gui mp3 player
[11:21] <snowshoe1ox> !developer environment
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about developer environment - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <snowshoe1ox> !anjuta
[11:21] <ubotu> anjuta: A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1494 kB, installed size 3760 kB
[11:21] <CarinArr> khajjak, once you've got the mp3 codecs installed, amarok is very nice
[11:21] <snowshoe1ox> !activestate
[11:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about activestate - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:21] <CarinArr> kdevelop is a lot nicer than anjuta
[11:21] <greenman> Can someone PLEASE help me?
[11:21] <CarinArr> but none of them cover that vast a range of languages
[11:21] <defrysk> !ask | greenman
[11:21] <ubotu> greenman: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[11:22] <CarinArr> he did ask his question
[11:22] <snowshoe1ox> ok, tx
[11:22] <greenman> defrysk: I've asked my question three timeds
[11:22] <CarinArr> he can't get awstats to work
[11:22] <dooglus> greenman: point your web browser at file:///usr/share/doc/awstats/html/awstats_setup.html
[11:22] <defrysk> greenman, sorry , missed that :s
[11:23] <greenman> dooglus: will that explain how to setup the package?
[11:23] <dooglus> greenman: or file:///usr/share/doc/awstats/html/index.html for the index of the awstats docs
[11:23] <dooglus> greenman: I don't know, but that's where you can find the awstats documentation, apparently.  I've never installed it
[11:24] <dooglus> greenman: see also /etc/awstats/awstats.conf and /etc/awstats/awstats.conf.local
[11:24] <kdt> dooglus: when I try to pm the contents of that log, it overflows and kicks me
[11:24] <Aachron> --am I in the right place to ask if there is a task sceduler? what did you mean by cron, njan
[11:24] <greenman> dooglus: i didn't find any help in there
[11:24] <dooglus> kdt, use a pastebin:
[11:25] <dooglus> !paste
[11:25] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[11:25] <kdt> ah
[11:25] <kdt> thanks
[11:27] <dooglus> Aachron: 'cron' is the linux task scheduler.  "man 5 crontab" will give the gory details; or if you can tell me what you want, I'll tell you how to do it
[11:27] <kdt> dooglus: ok there it is
[11:27] <njan> Aachron, like dooglus, cron is what linux and unix use to run tasks at specific times in a similar way to the task scheduler in windows.
[11:27] <njan> s/like dooglus/like dooglus says/
[11:28] <njan> Aachron, there are a number of different "cron" packages, but they all work in basically the same way, you can either read the man page or google cron online to find out more..
[11:28] <roadboy> hi guys
[11:29] <roadboy> anyone have configuration example for shaper?
[11:29] <dooglus> Aachron: anacron is good if you want to make sure something gets run every day - it makes sure the job gets run even if the PC isn't on at the same time each day
[11:29] <Aachron> thank-you
[11:30] <ekimus> hello, a question to the bind gurus: i have example.net and example.com - example.net is running fine with all RR records set, now I'm searching for an easy way so that $HOSTNAME.example.com will resolve to $HOSTNAME.example.net, so that I only need to update my example.net zone file and everything is fine
[11:30] <dooglus> greenman, do you see stuff at file:///usr/share/doc/awstats/html/awstats_setup.html ?  I see lots of help there
[11:31] <greenman> dooglus: I'm not finding anything about installing from apt-get install
[11:31] <greenman> dooglus: I found the awstats_configure.pl
[11:31] <dooglus> greenman: you install it like: "sudo apt-get install awstats"
[11:31] <greenman> but it won't run
[11:31] <greenman> I can't find the files it needs
[11:31] <dooglus> greenman: it gets run automatically periodically by cron
[11:31] <greenman> dooglus: I've done that
[11:32] <greenman> dooglus: I can't set it up because when I run awstats_configure.pl it errors out.
[11:32] <greenman> it can't find the files that it appends to the apache config
[11:32] <greenman> the "stuff" that makes awstats work
[11:33] <greenman> i "located" it and couldn't find anything
[11:33] <dooglus> greenman: I see.  let me try...
[11:33] <greenman> k
[11:33] <greenman> thanks
[11:35] <roadboy> anyone have configuration example for shaper package?
[11:37] <dooglus> greenman: looks like /usr/share/doc/awstats/README.Debian tells you how to set it up for ubuntu
[11:38] <greenman> dooglus: hmm... i didn't see what to do in there
[11:39] <dooglus> roadboy: did you see /usr/share/doc/shaper/README.shaper.gz
[11:39] <greenman> dooglus: that looks like just what to do if you encounter those problems
[11:40] <SurfnKid> how can i change the mac on my adapter
[11:40] <SurfnKid> and then embedd it
[11:40] <SurfnKid> macchange doesnt do it
[11:40] <BelialMkII> you could use ifconfig and pop it in one of the network scripts
[11:41] <roadboy> dooglus, yes but my english is not enough to understand it :(
[11:41] <greenman> screw it, I gotta go to bed.  I've been up over 24 hours
[11:41] <greenman> Thanks for the help dooglus
[11:42] <cccharles> I need help with a basic postfix config. anybody have time?
[11:43] <daurnimator> hi all
[11:43] <scheuri> j #postfix
[11:43] <pip> !hiweed
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hiweed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <pip> !hiweed
[11:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hiweed - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:43] <scheuri> cccharles: maybe #postfix is a better place to ask your question
[11:43] <cccharles> kk
[11:45] <pip> ubuntu, Hi
[11:48] <boink> ccharles: you could ask on #postfix too
[11:52] <tim167> when I open a *large* txt file my computer hangs completely, I have to quit gedit in terminal with kill comand...
[11:52] <dooglus> tim167: how large is large?
[11:52] <tim167> 131 MB
[11:52] <Daverocks> tim167: does "less" display it OK?
[11:52] <tim167> its a mail archive
[11:52] <Daverocks> try using less
[11:53] <Daverocks> less mailarchive.txt
[11:53] <tim167> can I search the textfile that way ?
[11:53] <dooglus> tim167: that is large.  most editors will try to fit the whole file into virtual memory at once, causing swapping, etc.  in less, type a slash '/' then the search string, and hit return
[11:53] <Daverocks> yeah, less can search
[11:53] <dooglus> tim167: then 'n' to go to the next match, and 'N' to go back to the previous
[11:53] <tim167> cool,  I'll try that
[11:54] <dooglus> it's a good question though.  is there an editor which will let me edit a huge file?  one that's bigger than available virtual memory?
[11:56] <Daverocks> i think vim would work well for that; i don't think it loads _everything_ into mem at once
[12:01] <piecewise> I don't suppose anyone here'd be able to help me out with what I am pretty sure is an ipv6 issue...?
[12:02] <GaiaX11> Who knows if there is a mplayer-gui in any ubuntu repository?
[12:02] <crimsun> it's the gmplayer binary in the mplayer package
[12:03] <mike1o> hi I hope somebody can help me solve my problem, I can't use my headphones... I have no "Headphone Jack Sense" on my volume control, my soundcard is SI7012
[12:04] <GaiaX11> crimsun: So I do apt-get install mplayer and ...
[12:04] <crimsun> GaiaX11: then execute ``gmplayer''
[12:04] <crimsun> GaiaX11: it's also in your menu
[12:04] <crimsun> mike1o: only your headphones (as in speakers work fine)?
[12:05] <defrysk> mike1o, also not in the switches section ?
[12:05] <mike1o> crimsun, my line out works fine
[12:05] <YogSothoth> hi
[12:06] <crimsun> mike1o: pastebin your amixer and lspci -nv
[12:06] <MasseR> Anyone here using nvidia-glx drivers with amaranth drivers?
[12:06] <defrysk> MasseR, yes
[12:06] <mike1o> defrysk, when i check my prefs there's no headphone control either
[12:06] <MasseR> defrysk: Your updated today/yesterday?
[12:06] <defrysk> MasseR, you can update safely from there now :)
[12:07] <MasseR> defrysk: Apparently you cant
[12:07] <MasseR> Mine's broken
[12:07] <MasseR> Segfaults even glxinfo
[12:07] <defrysk> MasseR, this morning the repo is back in sync with the edgy update
[12:08] <defrysk> MasseR, oh my , i havent rebooted yet ;(
[12:08] <mike1o> crimsun, amixer: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30603/
[12:08] <MasseR> defrysk: :P
[12:08] <defrysk> MasseR, I might be in trouble then :/
[12:08] <MasseR> defrysk: Try it. If it works, greta
[12:08] <MasseR> *great
[12:09] <defrysk> MasseR, no need to reboot now , My box is busy ;)
[12:09] <mike1o> crimsun, lspci -nv: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30604/
[12:10] <mike1o> cricht0ff, defrysk I heard there's a patch from alsa project that could fix the problem but i don't want to risk messing something up with the other apps
[12:12] <mike1o> crimsun, , defrysk I heard there's a patch from alsa project that could fix the problem but i don't want to risk messing something up with the other apps
[12:12] <defrysk> mike1o, not sure how to fix it , you could check in prefs of volumecontrol if jacksense is there so you can tic it to make it functional
[12:12] <noir> hallo
[12:12] <noir> kann mir jemand helfen?
[12:12] <defrysk> !de
[12:12] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:13] <noir> ich brauch hilfe dringend
[12:14] <noir> hallo?
[12:14] <Nomikos> i've just installed pure-ftpd, but now i want to change the way it starts up. i seem to remember there's a file or conf thing somewhere that lists all things that should start automatically, is that the place to look?
[12:14] <noir> hiiiiiilfeeeeeeee
[12:14] <scheuri> noir: !de
[12:14] <a7p> noir, du solltest #ubuntu-de aufsuchen.
[12:15] <noir> nee ich brauch hilfe zu phpBB
[12:15] <a7p> -> ubuntu-de
[12:15] <scheuri> noir: das ist der ENGLISCH-sprachige Channel von Ubuntu
[12:15] <scheuri> !de
[12:15] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:15] <noir> ich komm trotzdem ne klar bin computerneuling
[12:15] <Fluxkompensator> join #ubuntu-de
[12:16] <snowblink> Nomikos, man update-rc.d
[12:16] <crimsun> mike1o: try this: kill $(lsof -t /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* |sort -r) && sudo modprobe -r $(head -1 /proc/asound/modules|awk '{print $2}')
[12:16] <Nomikos> snowblink: thanks
[12:16] <noir> und wie komm ich in nen deutschsprachigen chat?
[12:16] <tommyturmstadt> !de
[12:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:16] <a7p> noir "/join #ubuntu-de"
[12:17] <sugar-rush> help !
[12:17] <crimsun> mike1o: done yet?
[12:17] <mike1o> crimsun, yes
[12:17] <sugar-rush> i have just install ubuntu 6.10
[12:17] <Astro-Freshmex> hi
[12:17] <sugar-rush> andi i do apt-get install anjuta
[12:18] <mike1o> crimsun, what next?
[12:18] <crimsun> mike1o: now: sudo modprobe snd-intel8x0 ac97_quirk=hp_only
[12:18] <Astro-Freshmex> here's a tricky question: how would I play real media files
[12:18] <Astro-Freshmex> well video files
[12:18] <Astro-Freshmex> that have their soundtrack encoded with ac3
[12:18] <scheuri> !restricted
[12:18] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:18] <sugar-rush> it does not run
[12:19] <Astro-Freshmex> it's not there scheuri
[12:19] <crimsun> mike1o: did the modprobe succeed or fail?
[12:19] <scheuri> Astro-Freshmex: then I am afraid I can not help
[12:20] <mike1o> crimsun, no jacksense on volumecontrol
[12:20] <crimsun> mike1o: it's not going to add a jack sense element
[12:20] <mike1o> crimsun, but it succeded
[12:20] <constrictor> does anyone know how to sync pocket pc running windoze CE with evolution?
[12:20] <mike1o> crimsun, no error message
[12:20] <crimsun> mike1o: I'm interested in whether the headphones work period
[12:20] <crimsun> mike1o: but in five minutes I'm leaving for the airport
[12:20] <Astro-Freshmex> is there a program or anything to convert an AVI file into the RMVB format?
[12:21] <Astro-Freshmex> im using imtoo in virtual pc
[12:21] <mike1o> crimsun, no sound out of headphones; speakers work
[12:21] <crimsun> mike1o: then you need another quirk. Unfortunately I'm out of time.
[12:22] <mike1o> crimsun, tnx anyways :)
[12:22] <mike1o> !jacksense
[12:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about jacksense - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:22] <ey> please someone help me with xawtv :S i get error when i start it -> X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMode
[12:22] <ey> what does this mean
[12:22] <ey> anybody somebody help me
[12:22] <ey> :<
[12:23] <constrictor> does anyone know how to sync pocket pc running windoze CE with evolution?
[12:24] <sugar-rush> anu idea ??
[12:24] <sugar-rush> any
[12:24] <leafw> problems with external monitor: the "extra" screen is actually shown in the same screen, right above it, acceesible by mouse, and not on the external monitor!
[12:25] <leafw> I'd appreciate an example xorg.conf known to work with ATI cards (powerbook here)
[12:26] <Ingmar> which nvidia driver do i need to get aiglx + beryl working in edgy ?
[12:26] <tim167> I plugged in my wireless ethernet interface and got two entries in System>Administration>Networking: 'wlan0' and 'wmaster0', which one should I activate ?
[12:26] <guillem101> Astro-Freshmex, I know little about video.. but perhaps mencoder (from mplayer) may do it
[12:27] <guillem101> Ingmar, latest: 9629
[12:27] <intehnet> anyone got ubuntu installed on paralells on macbook?
[12:27] <Astro-Freshmex> i'll try
[12:27] <Astro-Freshmex> mencoder mmm
[12:27] <Ingmar> ty guillem101
[12:28] <guillem101> Ingmar, if it happens you get black windows, use "beryl --force-aiglx"
[12:28] <kkfoxcc> true
[12:28] <constrictor> how do you sync pocket pc with evolution?
[12:28] <constrictor> anyone?
[12:28] <Astro-Freshmex> guillem101: mplayed doesn't play rm does it
[12:28] <kidddddi> please someone help me with xawtv :S i get error when i start it -> X Error of failed request:  XF86DGANoDirectVideoMod
[12:29] <guillem101> Ingmar, or  "beryl --force-aiglx --use-cow" (but I don't know what the cow thing is all about)
[12:29] <Juhaz> Astro-Freshmex, it does if you have the codecs
[12:30] <Ingmar> guillem101: lol, alright :) i'm using a howto from the forum, just wasn't sure which nvidia drivers this computer needs, i'm use to ATI crap
[12:30] <kkfoxcc> why ati is fine
[12:31] <Ingmar> guillem101: what's the best source to install those drivers from ?
[12:34] <Nomikos> uhm.. can someone walk me through this pure-ftpd thing, i found its startup script but that's two pages of bash, and i can't find what i'm looking for in there..
[12:35] <Nomikos> it says to add some string to "your usual pure-ftpd switches" but i can't find where /those/ are
[12:35] <xipietotec> how can I get quicktime movies to play in firefox?
[12:35] <MasseR> xipietotec: mplayer plugin
[12:36] <intehnet> hmm, no one got ubuntu going under parallels?
[12:36] <xipietotec> thankye =)
[12:36] <guillem101> Ingmar, I use the nvidia web site plus their installer (after removal of nvidia-glx and linux-restricted-modules packages)
[12:36] <Astro-Freshmex> hmm i think i got it working
[12:36] <Astro-Freshmex> im using a different program
[12:36] <Astro-Freshmex> thanks though ciao ciao
[12:36] <Astro-Freshmex> by the way before i go
[12:36] <Astro-Freshmex> does anyone here watch the show 'tripping over'?
[12:36] <MasseR> guillem101: What problem does Ingmar have?
[12:37] <MasseR> I have trouble with that driver too
[12:37] <jonah1980> hi doesn anyone know of any wireless speakers that work with ubuntu/linux - i'd like to listen to music in the bath from my computer
[12:37] <guillem101> Ingmar, I've seen some repositories around...
[12:37] <Astro-Freshmex> guess not. bye!
[12:37] <intehnet> astrofreshmex: yes - how was the dude
[12:37] <intehnet> getting his nipples ripped off
[12:37] <Astro-Freshmex> oo?
[12:37] <Astro-Freshmex> hospitalized :P
[12:37] <Astro-Freshmex> cyas :D
[12:37] <guillem101> MasseR, he/she is asking about the best method to install nvidia drivers- _ I guess
[12:37] <jonah1980> apparantly the saitek ones don't work - but they're the kinda thing i want but for linux
[12:37] <Ingmar> MasseR: figuring out how to install nvidia drivers, so i can use aiglx on edgy
[12:37] <MasseR> Ah
[12:37] <mike1o> anybody here know how to add a jacksense channel to alsa?
[12:37] <Infecto> hi, does some body know how to export acounts in kmail ?
[12:38] <coz_> Ingmar, hold on
[12:38] <MasseR> Ingmar: The best way (if it works) is to install amaranth repos and install nvidia-glx
[12:38] <MasseR> Gets you the latest
[12:38] <aphone> hi all
[12:38] <Ingmar> MasseR: i'm using a repo, that contains a modified linux-restricted-modules, because i need it to use my wireless
[12:38] <coz_> Ingmar, do youwant the nividia beta drivers?
[12:38] <Ingmar> MasseR: that's what i'm doing, thanks for confirming
[12:38] <Ingmar> coz_: yes
[12:38] <MasseR> Ingmar: http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/BerylOnEdgy
[12:38] <coz_> Ingmar, hold on
[12:38] <intehnet> ok! ubuntu under parallels does not work - graphics are pwned.
[12:39] <coz_> Ingmar,  try this   http://forum.beryl-project.org/topic-5021-howto-beryl-aiglx-nvidia-drivers
[12:39] <Ingmar> coz_: ok
[12:39] <gnomefreak> !nvidia-beta | Ingmar
[12:39] <ubotu> Ingmar: For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) Beta version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm" (for x86) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[12:40] <Ingmar> thanks all :)
[12:40] <guillem101> gnomefreak, Impressive, there is a package for the 9629 driver for amd64 there :-)
[12:41] <ayaa> hello all
[12:41] <gnomefreak> guillem101: yes i know newly built
[12:41] <MistaED> awesome!! amd64 beta driver! :D
[12:41] <ayaa> tryng to install dapper on my new toshiba laptop, it allways freezes at 15%, how can i debug this problem
[12:41] <jazzrocker> does apt/synaptic keep temporary files around?
[12:41] <jazzrocker> can i clean them out?
[12:41] <guillem101> I've asked this at #ubuntu-xgl but never got an answer: what does the "--use-cow" option mean at beryl?
[12:42] <jazzrocker> it seems a little rediculous for my  main system to be using 50G
[12:42] <guillem101> ayaa, check the CD
[12:42] <ayaa> guillem101, it's not a CD related problem, i think of some unsupported hardware problem
[12:42] <guillem101> jazzrocker, I *think* it was "sudo apt-cache clean"
[12:43] <chx> is there a deb already for Nvidia 9629?
[12:43] <ayaa> guillem101, I have 5 new 'shipit' ubuntu CDs and they all throw that problem
[12:43] <rausb0> jazzrocker: apt-get clean
[12:43] <xipietotec> what's the mplayer plugin to firefox called?
[12:43] <coz_> xipietotec, mozilla-mplayer
[12:43] <guillem101> jazzrocker, I was wrong; rausb0 is OK
[12:46] <ayaa> anyone can help ?
[12:46] <Sutur> Trying to use the command cp to copy a large amount of files from one disk to a removable USB storage device (250GB hard drive), I have been having trouble with the device, so I have to keep restarting, so does the "cp" command automatically skip files that already exist?
[12:46] <mekkis> Sutur, no, it doesn't
[12:46] <vib> Hi everyone. I was playing around with load balancing (UltraMonkey and Heartbeat), and I got pretty much everything working besides the FTP server. I cannot see to find a howto for VSFTPD.
[12:46] <mekkis> it overwrites by default
[12:47] <vib> Could anyone point me to the right place to look for something of the kind?
[12:47] <Sutur> I checked the manual and --help switch, but I don't know how to change it, do you know the switch?
[12:47] <rausb0> Sutur: i think -u could hel
[12:47] <rausb0> *help
[12:47] <constrictor> how do you sync pocket pc with evolution?
[12:48] <xipietotec> okay....how do I install this mplayer plugin?
[12:48] <rausb0> Sutur: read the manpage and search for -u
[12:48] <vib>  apt-get install mozilla-mplayer
[12:49] <constrictor> !sync
[12:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sync - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:49] <xipietotec> huh....says I allready have it installed...
[12:49] <constrictor> !multisync
[12:49] <ubotu> multisync: A program to synchronize PIM data. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.82-6.1 (edgy), package size 77 kB, installed size 284 kB
[12:49] <xipietotec> but it still won't play it >(
[12:49] <xipietotec> >=(
[12:50] <Sutur> rausb0:  -u, --update, copy only when the SOURCE file is newer than the destination file or when the destination file is missing.
[12:50] <Sutur> rausb0: Thanks.
[12:50] <vib> xipietotec, did it install or did you get a "Package not available" message?
[12:50] <xipietotec> vib: no, I have it installed, the .mov file just won't play in firefox
[12:51] <coz_> xipietotec, try apple movie trailers and see if mplyer ot totem starts up
[12:51] <vib> xipietotec, Open your firefox browser and in the address space type  about:plugins
[12:51] <coz_> xipietotec, you have a .mov file on the hard drive?
[12:52] <xipietotec> coz_: no I'm trying to see a short animated film on "Treacherous Computing"
[12:52] <coz_> xipietotec, ok what is the link. let me try
[12:53] <constrictor> !synce
[12:53] <ubotu> Details of setting up synce-serial at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PocketPCHowto
[12:54] <tommyturmstadt> haltet ein!
[12:54] <tommyturmstadt> haltet ein!
[12:54] <coz_> xipietotec, do ou have alink for me?
[12:54] <xipietotec> http://ia300124.us.archive.org/3/items/TrustedComputing/ coz_
[12:54] <coz_> xipietotec, hold on
[12:54] <xipietotec> it says I do not have the correct codec installed
[12:54] <coz_> xipietotec, did you install mplayer as well?
[12:55] <feydin> why is it that my bootsplash screen always dissapears on "Mounting filesystems"
[12:55] <intehnet> grrr stupid x11
[12:55] <coz_> xipietotec, go to synapitc search for mplayer and install it and the fonts etc
[12:56] <coz_> xipietotec, you need mplayer installed also did you install all of the restricted formats  and codecs?
[12:56] <xipietotec> coz_: mplayer is installed, I use it pretty much exclusively, I've been getting w32codecs from seveas' repo
[12:57] <coz_> xipietotec, did you go to ubuntu restricted formats to see if everything is installed/
[12:57] <summat> is the wiki down or is it just me?
[12:58] <xipietotec> coz_: no will do now
[12:58] <coz_> xipietotec, well it looks like it is down right now
[12:59] <guillem101> ayaa, perhaps it is the moment to try edgy on it (edgy CD is a live CD so you can check it prior to install)
[01:00] <feydin> whats the mount option for reiserfs to get user attributes? user_xattr ??
[01:00] <mike1o> my jacksense headphone control is unavailable in alsamixer... :(
[01:01] <deadlyallance068> ive been out of the loop is edgey out of beta yet ?
[01:02] <ayaa> guillem101, ok am downloading it, but need to know how to debug such situaton ?
[01:02] <guillem101> ayaa, yes, I know I have not answered your question.
[01:03] <guillem101> ayaa, I just have suggested you another choice :-P since I don't know the answer
[01:04] <ayaa> ok guillem101 thanks in anyway :)
[01:04] <jones20992> has anybody ever used gnome-dock ?
[01:06] <jones20992> not meny ppl on tonight a
[01:08] <DarkMageZ> jones20992, edgy launched 11 days ago
[01:08] <dope_> how do i get vim to indent a file that's not indented
[01:08] <jones20992> nice whats new in it ?
[01:09] <dobo> i am new to ubuntu and have 2 soundcards
[01:09] <dobo> i have writen a config file and stored it in /etc/modutils.d/alsa and want to use this config now
[01:09] <DarkMageZ> jones20992, newer kernel. new totem. new rhythmbox. xorg 7.1 and other stuff
[01:09] <dobo> how can i update the modutils.d/ dir ?
[01:10] <shadukan_> guys where can i find information installing the ati-driver fglrx for IBM Thinkpad X31
[01:10] <soundray> !ati | shadukan_
[01:10] <ubotu> shadukan_: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:10] <shadukan_> the damn think keeps crashing always and i found out that the problem was int the line of script where it tries to find the path to firefox
[01:10] <jones20992> does it have more support for multimedia out of the box so to speak
[01:11] <DarkMageZ> jones20992, not that i'm aware of. but i doubt that will ever happen due to patents
[01:11] <shadukan_> soundray nice one
[01:12] <jones20992> i sure wish it would do xvid out of the box sure would make my life easyr
[01:12] <soundray> jones20992: campaign for the liberation of the codecs, then
[01:12] <jones20992> lol
[01:13] <DarkMageZ> i thought xvid was open
[01:13] <jones20992> FREE THE CODECS
[01:13] <variant> DarkMageZ: xvid is free software
[01:13] <shadukan_> i have done all the tests and the damn thing still crashed
[01:14] <sundari> i just installed rtorrent via synaptic PM... now how do I run it?
[01:14] <jones20992> xvid is a free ver of divx
[01:14] <variant> jones20992: yeah, free as in freedom
[01:14] <variant> it is gpl licensed
[01:14] <plod> you can take our land
[01:14] <plod> but you will never
[01:14] <plod> take
[01:14] <plod> our FREEEEEEDOM!
[01:16] <jones20992> anybody ever hear of gnaa or a gnaa wannabe ?
[01:16] <plod> heared of, or is one
[01:16] <guillem101> since my upgrade to edgy, I can only see in nautilus some of the folders at root level (I don't see /usr or /tmp) unless I enable "show hidden files". Is this a common problem?
[01:16] <sundari> i just installed rtorrent via synaptic PM... now how do I run it?
[01:16] <somejew-sdidwtc> i dont know
[01:16] <variant> jones20992: yes, it's not somthing worth spending thought-time on though
[01:17] <soundray> sundari: it often helps to list the package files, e.g. 'dpkg -L packagename | grep bin/ '
[01:19] <soundray> sundari: I guess in the case of rtorrent, you just have to enter rtorrent in a terminal window.
[01:19] <sundari> there is no gui?
[01:20] <somejew-sdidwtc> there is no guy
[01:20] <soundray> sundari: the description says that it is curses-based, so there is a text-based gui.
[01:20] <ailean> I would like to gauge the concensus on what is the best ubuntu-friendly piece of software for managing money.  I am used to Microsoft Money, and would like something with all of the features in that if possible (i.e. reports, charts etc)
[01:20] <sundari> so... what is a nice torrent software? used to utorrent...
[01:21] <variant> ailean: gnucash is about it really
[01:21] <soundray> sundari: why don't you have a go with rtorrent, seeing that you have installed it already.
[01:21] <variant> ailean: the latest versions (not those available from ubuntu reps) are very good
[01:21] <fblade> guys how can i make my window drivers writable there readable but dont seem to allow me to write
[01:21] <feydin> during startup my bootsplash always disappears on "Mounting local filesystems" why is that!?
[01:21] <variant> !matroska
[01:21] <soundray> !ntfs | fblade
[01:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about matroska - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:21] <ubotu> fblade: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:22] <soundray> !fuse | fblade
[01:22] <ubotu> fblade: Though it's still very unsafe, you can read about Ubuntu NTFS writing here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lkraider/NtfsFuse
[01:22] <thiagocmartinsc> Hi to all...  howto rebuild Ubuntu Alternate with OEM stuff ?! there is a doc ?
[01:22] <vib> fblade, you need http://www.linux-ntfs.org/
[01:22] <sundari> i don't mind trying rtorrent... but i am not seeing much options in there...
[01:22] <ailean> variant, gnucash seemed quite awkward to use the last time i tried
[01:23] <ailean> variant, what about KMyMoney?
[01:23] <variant> !gnucash
[01:23] <ubotu> gnucash: A personal finance tracking program. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.0.1-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 2014 kB, installed size 6388 kB
[01:23] <ailean> variant, yeah, i have it
[01:23] <variant> ailean: you probably tried one of the 1.* versions
[01:23] <soundray> !torrent | sundari
[01:23] <ubotu> sundari: Torrent clients: Azureus (Java), BitTornado (Shell with python front-end), KTorrent (KDE/Qt)  -  Bittorent FAQ: http://www.bittorrent.com/FAQ.html
[01:23] <Dimensions> Hi ... where does evolution stores all the mails so i can copy them to another folder or flash drive ... ?
[01:23] <josh_> hows everyone doing this morning
[01:24] <variant> ailean: i never tried mykmoney, try it and let me know what you think
[01:24] <ailean> variant, k, thanks
[01:24] <Jazon> hi
[01:24] <mike1o> my jacksense headphone control is unavailable in alsamixer... :(
[01:24] <Jazon> anytime i call an X app from console, i get this error... X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 <[01:24] <josh_> anyone have kids and block webcontent with ubutnu?
[01:24] <Jazon> variant: kmymoney2 is really really good
[01:24] <variant> !snort | josh_
[01:24] <ubotu> snort: Flexible Network Intrusion Detection System. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.3.3-7 (edgy), package size 330 kB, installed size 800 kB
[01:25] <variant> !squid | josh_
[01:25] <ubotu> squid: Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache). In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.1-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 576 kB, installed size 1524 kB
[01:25] <thiagocmartinsc> Hi to all...  howto rebuild Ubuntu Alternate with OEM stuff ?! there is a doc ?
[01:25] <manmadha> how to do flash programs in linux........i mean is there any tool to construct easyly.?
[01:25] <Jazon> variant: it does real time and calculated currency conversions, allows for foreign currency accounts.... its super
[01:25] <josh_> variant, nah i dont need snort... that wont block them... ill just know they went to a pron site... i want to block that before it happens
[01:25] <josh_> lol
[01:25] <ailean> Jazon, you've used KMyMoney then, i take it?  Is it as good as Microsoft Money (which, despite being Microsoft, IS a good program)
[01:25] <Jazon> yes
[01:25] <Jazon> i like it better
[01:26] <ailean> Jazon, i'll have to try it.  do you know of others?
[01:26] <M0E-lnx> hey guys..... I dloaded the 6.10 Desktop image.... but can't boot into graphic mode... how do I kick it into cli?
[01:26] <Dimensions> where can i find saved mails of Evolution ?
[01:26] <thiagocmartinsc> Please... howto rebuild Ubuntu Alternate with OEM stuff ?! any doc.. I can't find on the Internet...
[01:26] <Jazon> the repors arent as numerous, but it is good
[01:26] <drayen> Humm... i have a set of large extneral usb hard disks, which i've formatted to use ext2 - however i find they keep getting corrupted due to my slackness of unmounting propperly (laptop user) and was wondering if there was any way to force a e2fsck after every X conections?
[01:26] <ailean> Dimensions, under a hidden folder in your /home directory
[01:26] <Jazon> ailean: gnuCash
[01:27] <ailean> Jazon, only those two then?
[01:27] <Jazon> or gnuKash?  cant remember
[01:27] <thiagocmartinsc> :(
[01:27] <Jazon> kmymoney2 is in apt
[01:27] <Jazon> i quit looking after kmymoney
[01:27] <drayen> M0E-lnx: have you tried ctrl+alt+F1 ?
[01:27] <M0E-lnx> yes I tried that
[01:27] <M0E-lnx> still nothing
[01:27] <ailean> Jazon, i tried gnucash before and wasn't impressed, but i want a very graphical tool
[01:27] <Jazon> ctrl-alt-f7
[01:27] <Jazon> then kmymoney
[01:27] <Jazon> go to their site
[01:27] <ailean> k :)
[01:28] <ailean> thanks Jazon and variant
[01:28] <M0E-lnx> tried all the alt combos
[01:28] <Jazon> np :)
[01:28] <soundray> ailean: I've heard good things about Moneydance. Not tried it myself though, and it is closed Java software
[01:28] <daftvader> hi
[01:28] <domnu> hey
[01:28] <M0E-lnx> the thing is, I have two video adapters....
[01:28] <Dimensions> thanks AlienX
[01:28] <M0E-lnx> one of them goes blank..
[01:28] <daftvader> can anyone help me to get gdm running at start?
[01:28] <M0E-lnx> the other looks very bad... cant see a thing
[01:28] <ailean> soundray, i'll check it out, thanks (I'd prefer open source, but if it does the job better, i'll use it)
[01:28] <daftvader> I used to have kdm running at start
[01:28] <M0E-lnx> just lines all across
[01:28] <daftvader> but now I disabled it from bum
[01:28] <soundray> daftvader: is it installed?
[01:29] <daftvader> yes it is
[01:29] <Jazon> anytime i call an X app from console, i get this error... X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166 <[01:29] <daftvader> i am running it atm but i have to manually login and type it
[01:29] <thiagocmartinsc> howto rebuild Ubuntu Alternate install CD with OEM stuff ?! any doc.. I can't find on the Internet...
[01:29] <variant> daftvader: apt-get install gdm && dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[01:29] <vorbote> daftvader: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm"
[01:29] <soundray> daftvader: 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm'
[01:29] <variant> daftvader: it will ask you what you want to run at startup
[01:29] <Jazon> thiagocmartinsc: i dont know what you mean sorry
[01:29] <domnu> hey, I'm trying to do an 'apt-get install java-package' and it it can't find the package. Anyone know how to fix this?
[01:29] <variant> !livecd
[01:29] <daftvader> ok, isn't there any sort of start-up file in linux? l
[01:29] <ubotu> Ubuntu Dapper 'Desktop' CD contains a Live CD (Ubuntu that runs straight off the CD and RAM) with an install option. Breezy's Live CD contained no install.
[01:30] <soundray> daftvader: or 'sud update-rc.d gdm defaults'
[01:30] <bidha2kbsd> in boot level i always get stuck with pass prompt i.e Enter PEM pass phrase:
[01:30] <bidha2kbsd>  ..i have to give the passwd and then further boot goes on
[01:30] <bidha2kbsd> howto put the passwd so i can boot slapd without prompting the passwd
[01:30] <soundray> daftvader: sorry 'sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults'
[01:30] <Jazon> domnu: sudo aptitude install xxxxxxxxxxx
[01:30] <variant> daftvader: yes, but it is supposed to be hidden from the user "experience" in ubuntu
[01:30] <thiagocmartinsc> Janchi, with "Alternate Install CD" we can: creating pre-configured OEM systems;
[01:30] <thiagocmartinsc> how to do it ?
[01:30] <domnu> Jazon: thanks
[01:30] <daftvader> ah yes, how can I un-hidden it
[01:30] <thiagocmartinsc> Jazon, with "Alternate Install CD" we can: creating pre-configured OEM systems;
[01:30] <thiagocmartinsc> oops
[01:30] <Jazon> domnu: thank me if it works ;)
[01:30] <thiagocmartinsc> :-P
[01:31] <daftvader> i really much want to learn the start-up process of ubuntu
[01:31] <vorbote> soundray: using update-rc.d in thses case will nothing differnet to break your system.
[01:31] <variant> daftvader: i dont literaly mean hidden, i just mean not obvious.. ubuntu is a point and click operating system
[01:31] <domnu> Jazon: hmm, still can't find java-package
[01:31] <ailean> soundray, part of me wants to buy moneydance just to give them some linux-based revenue :)
[01:31] <Jazon> domnu: sudo apt-get update
[01:31] <variant> daftvader: you would be better with somthing like gentoo or slackware then
[01:31] <ailean> soundray, but you need to pay to upgrade every year
[01:31] <soundray> vorbote: can you rephrase that?
[01:31] <vorbote> daftvader: if you already have installed kdm and gdm, you  will want to use update-alternatives --config gdm instead
[01:32] <domnu> Jazon: no dice :-P
[01:32] <Jazon> domnu: also try sudo apt-get java<tab><tab>
[01:32] <domnu> I can get a tar.gz of the package
[01:32] <vorbote> soundray:you are messsing with links in init.d already under the control of debconf
[01:32] <daftvader> variant: it seem that I have no control over what start up program in my ubuntu box beside bum
[01:32] <daftvader> i don't really want to use bum as I want to learn the cmdline alternatives
[01:33] <soundray> vorbote: I suggested 'defaults'. That can hardly be called "messing"
[01:33] <thiagocmartinsc> Jazon, can you help me?!
[01:33] <tim167> 'enable logging' on Gaim resets every time, can I set it as default ?
[01:33] <domnu> Jazon: hmm, still doesn't show up, but that does help a little
[01:33] <Jazon> domnu: then it isnt in the ubuntu repos....what is the url of the package?
[01:33] <floating> Hello. I want to install ndiswrapper to get online. However I need first to install build-essential deb, but I cant install that, because I havent installed libc6-deb(cantfind), libc-dev(cantfind), g++(cantfind), dpkg-dev(found). I wonder what all deb files I should download to get this rolling. I am afraid when I find these dep there will be another one.
[01:34] <Jazon> thiagocmartinsc: sorry, i have never done it... try posting in the forum (???)
[01:34] <fblade> ok i tried following them and because there already mounted i cant figure how to make them writable
[01:34] <thiagocmartinsc> Jazon, ok... I will
[01:34] <thiagocmartinsc> thanks!
[01:34] <Jazon> thiagocmartinsc: good luck
[01:35] <thiagocmartinsc> thanks  :-D
[01:35] <soundray> floating: is connecting by Ethernet an option -- even if just temporarily?
[01:35] <shawnr_> wtf
[01:35] <cheesy> quit now
[01:35] <ailean> Vista is apparently going to come with a domain name for every computer to access the files remotely - does Ubuntu have anything planned to keep up with this?
[01:35] <floating> i would rather download the debs and burn them to a disk, but I can get to ethernet if this method is impossible
[01:36] <shawnr_> i waited 3 days to install the new nvidia xgl and linux-restricted-modules updates, i do and my xserver crashes
[01:36] <soundray> floating: there is a how-to for using apt offline, let me dig it out...
[01:36] <shawnr_> can anyone help me out
[01:36] <floating> hmm, well, I have got that
[01:37] <soundray> floating: what's the problem, then?
[01:37] <floating> soundray: hmm, will it find the packages with apt-get libc-dev and libc6-dev and g++ as package names ?
[01:38] <ailean> Jazon, I dunno, I don't see anything in KMyMoney to create graphs etc.  It doesn't seem very graphical.  Am I missing something?
[01:38] <soundray> floating: I don't understand the question.
[01:38] <floating> i didnt think the apt-get offline would be useful
[01:39] <floating> cuz I dont understand.. didnt read the page
[01:39] <shawnr_> Where can I find the log for the xserver?
[01:39] <soundray> shawnr_: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:39] <shawnr_> thanx
[01:39] <ekimus> if i have a nameserver for 192.0.2.0/29 is it ok if i specify the reverse lookup zone like this: zone "2.0.192in-addr.arpa" or do I have to care about the netmask of the assigned range?
[01:40] <floating> soundray: so if I go to ethernet, just apt-get install libc6-dev , apt-get install libc-dev and apt-get install g++ will be correct commands ?
[01:40] <priich> any tips on what to do when the xserver-xorg packages is being held back when i try to upgrade to edgy ?
[01:41] <Jazon> ailean: no graphs yet... i thought you meant did it have a good gui.  graphs are dead easy in koffice or OOo...  you looking here? http://kmymoney2.sourceforge.net/index-home.html
[01:41] <somejew-sdidwtc>  http://danke-peer.dl.am/ geil
[01:42] <soundray> floating: no, if you are on ethernet, 'apt-get install build-essential' should be sufficient.
[01:42] <floating> ohhh
[01:42] <floating> thanks
[01:43] <soundray> priich: 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg' should either install it or tell you why it won't.
[01:44] <shawnr_> GPG error: http://packages.freecontrib.org:  NO_PUBKEY F120156012B83718
[01:44] <shawnr_> how can I fix that?
[01:44] <priich> soundray, thanks, i'll give it a go
[01:45] <ailean> Jazon, i'll keep an eye on it and maybe use it in the future. i think gnucash is the best bet just now
[01:45] <ailean> Jazon, thanks!
[01:46] <domnu> gah, of course I just had to add more sources to my apt configuration
[01:48] <somejew-sdidwtc> http://www.danke-peer.dl.am/ LOOOL
[01:48] <somejew-sdidwtc> http://www.danke-peer.dl.am/ LOOOL
[01:48] <somejew-sdidwtc> http://www.danke-peer.dl.am/ LOOOL
[01:49] <Hoxzer> are you gay?
[01:49] <somejew-sdidwtc> http://www.danke-peer.dl.am/ LOOOL
[01:49] <somejew-sdidwtc> http://www.danke-peer.dl.am/ LOOOL
[01:49] <soundray> !ops
[01:49] <ubotu> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO or gnomefreak!
[01:49] <zaxx22> halooo
[01:49] <Hobbsee> thanks soundray
[01:49] <soundray> Thanks Hobbsee
[01:49] <soundray> :)
[01:49] <shawnr_> my xserver just crashed but I can't find the log for it. i looked in Xorg.0.log
[01:49] <shawnr_> is there somewhere else i should look?
[01:51] <soundray> shawnr_: are you running Xgl?
[01:51] <shawnr_> not anymore glx
[01:51] <shawnr_> i got rid of xgl
[01:51] <shawnr_> a while ago
[01:51] <shawnr_> i just installed the latest nvidia-glx update
[01:52] <shawnr_> and it crashed
[01:52] <soundray> shawnr_: do a 'ls -l /var/log/X*' to see if you have any other X-related logs, and whether they show today's date.
[01:52] <shawnr_> so i switched it to the 'nv' driver
[01:53] <shawnr_> soundray, which is an error... II == ** WW ?
[01:54] <soundray> shawnr_: if you're examining a crash, all of these could be interesting. Just look at the end of the file.
[01:54] <ekimus> hehe that link from somejew-sdidwtc is actually a thank you page for a german politician who prevented a beer tax :)
[01:55] <shawnr_> soundray, yea here it is
[01:55] <soundray> shawnr_: the markers are explained in the first few lines of the file.
[01:55] <shawnr_> ahhh
[01:55] <priich> ekimus, always a worthy cause, fighting beer taxes
[01:57] <shawnr_> soundray, i found the error but it isn't telling me anything really specific
[01:57] <shawnr_> this sux i have school work to do today lol
[01:58] <XiXaQ> What is Nice in System monitor?
[01:58] <soundray> shawnr_: configure vesa instead of nv and see if you still get the crash.
[01:58] <soundray> XiXaQ: process priority
[01:58] <shawnr_> soundray, it isn't telling me what it said at the time of crash
[01:59] <XiXaQ> soundray, thanks :)
[01:59] <shawnr_> soundray, it said the nvidia-glx version and a version of something else doesn't match
[01:59] <XiXaQ> soundray, more is higher priority?
[02:00] <soundray> shawnr_: did you install the ubuntu packages to get nvidia support?
[02:00] <shawnr_> ubuntu
[02:00] <geokok> hi. Just a quick question. I have the repos nvidia drivers installed. Do I have to uninstall them before installing the new ones form nvidia?
[02:00] <shawnr_> i think
[02:00] <soundray> XiXaQ: default is 0, negative is higher, positive is lower priority.
[02:00] <Martie> wow, ubuntu conversations get higher priority that school work :) your mom's gonna be mad
[02:01] <XiXaQ> soundray, thanks again :)
[02:01] <shawnr_> soundray, nvidia-glx (1.0.8762+2.6.15.11-5) to 1.0.8776+2.6.15.12-1
[02:01] <soundray> XiXaQ: man nice, man renice
[02:01] <shawnr_> let me try again
[02:01] <geokok> Do I simpy uninstall the nvidia-glx from synaptic and I am fine?
[02:01] <soundray> shawnr_: where did you download those drivers?
[02:02] <shawnr_> automatic updates
[02:02] <shawnr_> soundray, do the linux restricted modules need a reboot to register with the system?
[02:02] <julo> moin moin
[02:02] <shawnr_> cause after the update i restarted x
[02:02] <shawnr_> no reboot
[02:02] <clode_> hey, anyone have a suggestion to a good FTP software for Linux?
[02:02] <soundray> shawnr_: yes, that was going to be my next suggestion
[02:02] <shawnr_> ak
[02:02] <shawnr_> k
[02:03] <shawnr_> abrb, thanx
[02:03] <julo> clode_: nautilus handles ftp pretty well
[02:03] <julo> clode_: else, there is gftp
[02:03] <clode_> oh, thanks for the suggestions. I'll check them out.
[02:03] <dooglus> clode_: lftp is the best command line tool I've found - it's very nice
[02:04] <clode_> ah, alright - is it easy to configure the way you want it to dooglus?
[02:04] <dooglus> clode_: I didn't look into it much - I use tramp in Emacs for all my FTP needs
[02:04] <clode_> oKtosiTe-server:)
[02:04] <dooglus> clode_: but that's probably too much of an acquired taste
[02:04] <gharz> guys, i'm using gnome... how do i install KDE?
[02:04] <dooglus> gharz: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:05] <gharz> dooglus, thanks!!!!
[02:05] <dooglus> gharz: that'll bring in a whole bunch of KDE apps as well.  if you just want the basics, there's something called - um 'kdebase' maybe?
[02:05] <gharz> yeah... i just want the kdebase.
[02:05] <dooglus> !info kdebase
[02:05] <ubotu> kdebase: base components from the official KDE release. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 45 kB, installed size 88 kB
[02:05] <dooglus> gharz: so just "sudo apt-get kdebase" then
[02:05] <mike1o> no sound from headphone jack, no headphone control in alsamixer either! card; SI7012
[02:06] <soundray> !kde-core | gharz
[02:06] <ubotu> kde-core: the K Desktop Environment core modules. In component main, is optional. Version 5:47 (edgy), package size 7 kB, installed size 40 kB
[02:06] <dooglus> oops.  you'll need "install" in there too - before "kdebase"
[02:09] <floating> soundray: I am online now with my xubuntu. I installed build-essential, it mentioned the earlier deb I had problems with and suggested apt-get -f install, I did that and then tried a new build-essential install, it says that build-essential is not available but is referred to by another package E: package build-essential has no installation candidate
[02:09] <gharz> soundray, what's the difference between kde-core and kdebase?
[02:09] <soundray> gharz: sry, forget about kde-core, kdebase is what you need.
[02:09] <Laibsch> Is it possible to import a GPG key for a repository but NOT trust that GPG when installing files?  "gpg --import $file" imports the file but has no other effect on apt function.
[02:09] <soundray> floating: 'sudo apt-get update', then try again
[02:10] <gharz> soundray, what's the diff between the two then?
[02:10] <gharz> soundray, coz i'd like to switch between kde and gnome during logon.
[02:11] <soundray> gharz: you will be able to do that in gdm
[02:11] <floating> thank you, seems to work soundray
[02:11] <gharz> soundray, ok... thanks!
[02:15] <dooglus> gharz: kde-core = kdebase + arts + kdelibs
[02:16] <gharz> dooglus, thanks for the info!
[02:16] <jenda> The Czech LoCo team has been asked in an interview what progress has been made towards new-user-accessibility in Edgy (for which Ubuntu is renowned). Anyone have any tips?
[02:16] <dooglus> ahoj jenda!
[02:16] <jenda> :)
[02:19] <jenda> Is it possible that 8 minutes of conversation fit on a single screen in #ubuntu?
[02:19] <jenda> What's wrong with the world?
[02:19] <Sby_Fitnes_Diran> urabaya
[02:20] <spinz8r> Hi, hv got a aztech wifi usb dongle. need guidance to build/compile suppplied linux driver. tks
[02:21] <axion_> major problem...when i run apt-get it says "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required" and lists about 100 base packages that I didnt install manually...such as xorg glibc binutils, etc...how do i fix it?
[02:21] <axion_> an autoremove screws the whole system
[02:22] <pjpeter> hi i installed apache2 to make a webserver but i cannot add files as it needs to changed from root access to my user name access
[02:24] <Faithful> I just bought a new WD SATAII 320GB Enterprise disk and it is running so hot you can't touch it... what do you think?
[02:25] <priich> Faithful, install a fan ?
[02:25] <Faithful> Do you reckon it should run that hot?
[02:26] <dh> does it run that hot all the time, or just when spinning?
[02:26] <Faithful> dh: well usually it is spinning when it is running.
[02:27] <dh> so its burning hot even in standby then?
[02:29] <ailean> Faithful, it should not be that hot
[02:30] <ailean> Faithful, install a fan or check that your ventilation is clear
[02:30] <pjpeter> hi how do i change owner from root to user
[02:30] <pedrolopes10> hi
[02:30] <pedrolopes10> can someone help me?
[02:30] <Faithful> I felt this heat belching out the case with the side of and I was trying to figure where it was coming from ... would not have guessed the new hdd
[02:30] <iwaterball> pjpeter: sudo chown user <file>
[02:31] <pjpeter> it is www directory
[02:31] <pedrolopes10> i'm having a problem programing java... that i can't make the import java.util.Scanner...
[02:31] <pedrolopes10> can somebody help?
[02:32] <dooglus> pedrolopes10: you have your classpath specified correctly?
[02:32] <pouUbun2> got a question about toshiba laptop sat. p100. I tried ver 6.06 and ver 6.10 and sound dont seem to be working at all... anyone else has that prob?
[02:32] <geokok> I try to add a repo as shown in a guide in the forums for beryl but I get a message saying that no public key can be found...Now what?
[02:33] <pedrolopes10> sudo update-alternatives --config.......than i choose java  /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/bin/java
[02:33] <zsh> hallo, is there an equivalent for kppp in gnome?
[02:33] <pedrolopes10> dooglus: i did like this...
[02:33] <morphycs> I have w32codecs installed but mplayer couldn't play many formats, what to do?
[02:34] <andrepowell> i am having a problem with the LiveCd it boots really slow F1 says you need 128MB of ram I have 196 and the jacket says 256MB and my mouse stops working any suggestions
[02:34] <dooglus> morphycs: do you have a frinstance?
[02:34] <igcek> Hello; does anybody know how could i enter terminal, if my X-windows dont work?
[02:34] <boink> you need to install mplayer for the right site
[02:34] <GnarusLeo> Hi! Does anyone know why my fonts look like crap in amsn? Where can I get normal fonts? or how?
[02:34] <Tim90> Hey i cant install limewire
[02:34] <boink> you need to add some repo's to your sources.list
[02:34] <Tim90> tryed sh runLime.sh
[02:34] <morphycs> dooglus: I don't know what frinstance is
[02:34] <dooglus> igcek: hold control and alt and press f1 or f2, then log in
[02:34] <boink> so that mplayer can play windows media stuff
[02:34] <dooglus> morphycs: an example.  of a format you can't play
[02:35] <igcek> dooglus ive tried it, does not work...
[02:35] <geokok> boink: I try to add repos through the gui but it says it cant get a public key..
[02:35] <Tim90> ls show that there is a runLimewire file
[02:35] <boink> gui?
[02:35] <boink> just use apt-get
[02:35] <pedrolopes10> dooglus: may i do a pvt?
[02:35] <morphycs> dooglus: mpg, asf
[02:35] <internat> howdy.. im having problems with kaffeine.. i haven o sound through it wat so ever.. vlc works with sound.. so im not sure.. ive tried playing and changing the options for audio from auto to alsa and oss and esd but no results.. any suggestions?
[02:35] <geokok> boink: system-->system administration-->sources
[02:35] <boink> add the right lines, then 1) apt-get clean 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get upgrade
[02:36] <dooglus> morphycs: oh.  mpg works for me
[02:36] <Tim90> suso apt-get install limewire doesnt work
[02:36] <dooglus> morphycs: with mplayer and w32codecs
[02:36] <Tim90> for me
[02:36] <boink> what does apt-cace search limewire say?
[02:36] <boink> apt-cache I mean
[02:36] <dooglus> pedrolopes10: you can try
[02:37] <dooglus> pedrolopes10: you have to be registered, or it won't let you
[02:37] <pedrolopes10> ok sorry  i will register now
[02:37] <Tim90> root@timo900-desktop:/usr/local/LimeWire# sudo  apt-cace search LimeWire
[02:37] <Tim90> sudo: apt-cace: command not found
[02:37] <dooglus> Tim90: cache, not cace
[02:37] <boink> apt-cache search limewire
[02:37] <boink> it was a typo
[02:38] <dooglus> morphycs: what error do you see if you run "mplayer file.mpg"?
[02:38] <GnarusLeo> Hi! Does anyone know why my fonts look like crap in amsn? Where can I get normal fonts? or how? Its programmed in TK/TCL (I think thats whats wrong)
[02:38] <Tim90> root@timo900-desktop:/usr/local/LimeWire# apt-cache search LimeWire
[02:38] <Tim90> root@timo900-desktop:/usr/local/LimeWire
[02:38] <francix> hi
[02:38] <boink> that means it doesn't exist in any of the repos you use
[02:39] <boink> you need to fine an ubuntu repo which has limewire
[02:39] <morphycs> dooglus: "error opening/initialize the selected video_out (-vo) device."
[02:39] <boink> I got no reply as well for limewire
[02:39] <pouUbun2> hi question about toshiba laptop sat. p100. I tried ver 6.06 and ver 6.10 and sound dont seem to be working at all... anyone else has that prob?
[02:39] <boink> what does cat /dev/sndstat say?
[02:40] <boink> (don't paste!)
[02:40] <dooglus> morphycs: which -vo device are you trying to use?
[02:40] <Tim90> boink: i downloaded it from the limewire site,
[02:40] <dooglus> morphycs: try "mplayer -vo x11 file.mpg" for example
[02:40] <francix> ive just managed to mount my ntfs drive for reading (very proud btw) , is it dangerous to transfer files from there to my linux partition on ubuntu?
[02:40] <boink> the ubuntu .deb? or just the source code?
[02:41] <njan> francix, no, that's safe.
[02:41] <Tim90>  fracix: yes never write on the ntfs
[02:41] <francix> na just want to transfer files from ntfs to linux
[02:41] <francix> thanks
[02:41] <Tim90> ok
[02:41] <boink> francix: ideally, that nfs share should now be a part of your system
[02:42] <morphycs> dooglus: It work now, how to set this parameters by default
[02:42] <francix> boink, i think it is, as i'm listening to my mp3 from there now, just wanted to be sure :)
[02:42] <Tim90> were can i get the limewire  repo
[02:42] <boink> I listen to mp3's all the time off samba mounts ;)
[02:42] <boink> Tim90: google
[02:42] <boink> limewire ubuntu
[02:43] <gyaresu> !flash > gyaresu
[02:44] <geokok> how come I cant get a public key for the beerorokid repo????
[02:44] <francix> woohoo, copying files to linux fro ntrf works like a dream, ubuntu ftw!
[02:45] <dooglus> morphycs: -vo x11 is a bit slow - try -vo xv instead - does that work?
[02:45] <Lobster> geokok if you use apt-get update there should be shown the key
[02:45] <boink> francix: you mean ntfs?
[02:45] <gyaresu> Tim90, It's called frostwire
[02:45] <boink> ntrf?
[02:45] <geokok> no i get a message at the end saying to run sudo apt get update.....
[02:45] <francix> ntfs i meant ;P
[02:46] <boink> frnacix: if you're paranoid, you might want to consider sshfs later on
[02:46] <andrepowell> one more question is there a way to run "Install" w/o the mouse ?
[02:46] <boink> that's ntfs by ssh protocol
[02:46] <Tim90> gyaresu: Cheers
[02:46] <gyaresu> geokok, wget http://www.beerorkid.com/compiz/quinn.key.asc -O - | sudo apt-key add -
[02:46] <gyaresu> Tim90, welcome
[02:46] <jrib> ubotu: tell andrepowell about apt
[02:47] <Lobster> can you paste, geokok?
[02:47] <geokok> gyaresu: I have added that
[02:47] <Lobster> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:47] <gyaresu> andrepowell, disable mouse?
[02:47] <geokok> Lobster: give me a sec cause the terminal is installing the nvidia drivers
[02:48] <andrepowell> gyaresu: my mouse will not work with LiveCD, and I want to see if I can install Ubuntu sometime this year
[02:48] <francix> infidel windows partition !
[02:48] <francix> boink, yep
[02:49] <andrepowell> gyaresu: btw it is an non-usb optical
[02:49] <gyaresu> andrepowell, you could install the server edition and then setup your own xorg.conf
[02:49] <morphycs> dooglus: Ok I set vx in the preference and its playing files very well but when I open the files it say "couldn't open codecs", but it plays file normally
[02:49] <gyaresu> andrepowell, should just work.
[02:49] <dooglus> morphycs: to make the option default, put a line saying "vo=x11" in ~/.mplayer/config
[02:49] <dooglus> morphycs: or "vo=xv" if that works
[02:49] <clojster> hi, how can i define aliases? I tried to put them in ~/.bashrc but it doesn't work
[02:49] <oangefly> as administrator, how do i acces other peoples personal folders using my login from other computers....???....
[02:50] <axion_> how come almost every single package is listed as auto-removable? if i do autoremove my system will stop working (glibc etc!)
[02:50] <dooglus> clojster: alias x='echo hello'
[02:50] <oangefly> server of course....
[02:50] <Tim90> I have the mce remote connected to ubuntu, were is the device alocated i.e /dev/ttyusb
[02:50] <gyaresu> clojster, yes it does. you need to start a new 'bash' session.
[02:50] <evilghost> oangefly:  If you're using gnome login and try "sudo nautilus", if you're using console, then "sudo su" and just CD into their directories.
[02:50] <clojster> gyaresu: I did
[02:50] <gyaresu> oangefly, just 'ls'
[02:51] <andrepowell> gyaresu: this is what I have 196 MB Ram PII 6xx  processor 10G of space and a big headache, is there something that I am missing.
[02:51] <mrdude> something in edgy thats different than dapper is messing with my USB webcam being able to work with VMware
[02:51] <boink> clojster: source .bashrc
[02:51] <morphycs> dooglus: Its say the same error, "couldn't open codecs", but its plays the file very well
[02:51] <mrdude> anyone know what this might be?
[02:51] <gyaresu> andrepowell, loads to desktop but you just can't use the mouse?
[02:51] <oangefly> i mean from computers running windows....or do i have to use putty....
[02:51] <axion_> anyone have any clue how to fix my packages?
[02:51] <dooglus> morphycs: I ignore all the junk that mplayer prints so long as the file plays OK...
[02:51] <sc4ttrbrain> mrdude, can u use it to send voices?
[02:51] <evilghost> oangefly:  If the server is runing openSSH then yes, you can use putty.
[02:52] <gyaresu> morphycs, you have the extra codecs installed?
[02:52] <clojster> boink: still nothing
[02:52] <gyaresu> axion_, specifics please.
[02:52] <andrepowell> gyaresu: there is a pointer but no movement
[02:52] <mrdude> i noticed that when i plug it in now i get a dialog to open digital camera photos wondering if maybe that is taking it over
[02:52] <axion_> gyaresu: read up
[02:52] <mrdude> no
[02:52] <clojster> this is line in my .bashrc:
[02:52] <axion_> how come almost every single package is listed as auto-removable? if i do autoremove my system will stop working (glibc etc!)
[02:52] <mrdude> its actually a dig camera/webcam combo
[02:52] <boink> for bash, it should be = alias blah="ssh -v -l blah blah.com"
[02:52] <clojster> alias mplayer='mplayer -monitorpixelaspect 1'
[02:52] <oangefly> i was just hoping i could access everybodies home folder from anyones windows explorer....
[02:52] <mrdude> it worked fine in dapper but now vmware isnt seeing it
[02:52] <boink> clojster: try it with quotes
[02:52] <Wikzo> can you see this?
[02:52] <gyaresu> axion_, what are you trying to do?
[02:53] <boink> then source .bashrc
[02:53] <axion_> gyaresu: trying to use autoremove without it removing everything
[02:53] <morphycs> dooglus: how to make mplayer the default mozilla-plugin?
[02:53] <evilghost> oangefly:  You'd have to have Samba installed to do that
[02:53] <oangefly> i do....
[02:53] <clojster> boink: still nothing
[02:53] <sc4ttrbrain> mrdude, what version of vmware?
[02:53] <Kishore> ubotu, pastebin
[02:53] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:53] <axion_> gyaresu: almost every package is listed as no longer needed
[02:53] <evilghost> oangefly:  So, access the share?
[02:54] <oangefly> i \\myserver\theirname    i can't get in....
[02:54] <epenninga> quit
[02:54] <rolando> hi
[02:54] <gyaresu> axion_, I don't know autoremove. What are you trying to acheive?
[02:54] <dooglus> morphycs: I've never found a good way of playing video in firefox.  in my experience mplayer-mozilla-plugin or whatever it's called sucks
[02:54] <axion_> gyaresu: let me pastebin
[02:54] <boink> kaffeine works quite well
[02:55] <rolando> i get this error when trying to apt-get remove compiz-plugins (adept says its a broken package)
[02:55] <rolando> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:55] <geokok> Lobster: here it is
[02:55] <geokok> 1. W: GPG error: http://www.beerorkid.com edgy Release: The following signatures could not be verified because no public key was available: NO_PUBKEY 31A5F97FED8A569E 2. W: Maybe u should run  apt-get update  3. to fix this  4. (I translated the message from greek)
[02:55] <geokok> sorry
[02:55] <sc4ttrbrain> !pastebin > geokok
[02:56] <mrdude> ubuto gnome-vfs
[02:56] <andrepowell> gyaresu: well i try again later, thanks
[02:56] <rolando> any ideas when error code (1)
[02:56] <geokok> terribly sorry ! how do i use pastebin?
[02:56] <gyaresu> andrepowell, sure.
[02:56] <dooglus> !paste
[02:56] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:56] <Tim90> now the danm thing wont lounch
[02:56] <gyaresu> geokok, http://rafb.net/paste is better.
[02:56] <gnomefreak> rolando: sudo apt-get -f install      just type that. no package
[02:56] <zsh> !mp3
[02:56] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:57] <geokok> 1. W: GPG error: http://www.beerorkid.com edgy Release: The following signatures could not be v
[02:57] <oangefly> did you see that one <evilghost>....???....
[02:57] <gyaresu> geokok, All are just somewhere to dump text and then provide the link.
[02:57] <rolando> gnomefreak: this is what i get
[02:57] <geokok> oh ok
[02:57] <gnomefreak> geokok: ask in #ubuntu-xgl to get the key. they should have a link handy
[02:57] <rolando> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:57] <geokok> Lobster: u there mate?
[02:57] <axion_> gyaresu: http://pastebin.ca/243432
[02:58] <gnomefreak> rolando: sudo dpkg --configure -a      try that
[02:58] <geokok> gnomefreak: I have added the key according to the guide in the forums
[02:58] <rolando> cant i just force this removal?
[02:58] <Lobster> geokok isn't there a key printed?
[02:58] <gnomefreak> geokok: if you are still getting that warning you added the wrong key
[02:58] <axion_> gyaresu: as you can see it says my linux kernel and crucial stuff is no longer required
[02:58] <rolando> gnomefreak: when doing the configure i get nothing
[02:58] <boink> dang it, there's something blocking my sound card
[02:58] <gnomefreak> rolando: you can but its not recomended as it can break thinks
[02:58] <geokok> but its copy paste from the forums
[02:59] <boink> how could I switch on/off alsaconf?
[02:59] <boink> crazy ubuntu bug :/
[02:59] <geokok> LObster: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30620/
[02:59] <gnomefreak> rolando: can you paste the full output of the command on pastebin please
[02:59] <eXistenZ> What is a good interface to the DICT server?
[02:59] <gyaresu> axion_, yeah. odd.
[02:59] <rolando> gnomefreak: adept says its broken already, its just compiz-plugins after i removed compiz-core and all other things
[02:59] <axion_> fresh install btw
[02:59] <gyaresu> axion_, So what did you do? :)
[02:59] <gnomefreak> adept or apt rolando ?
[02:59] <rolando> gnomefreak: how is that paste bin?
[02:59] <gyaresu> axion_, sources.list got messed with?
[02:59] <Wikzo> is it normal that the Ubuntu 6.06 live cd freezes sometimes, when you running it? yesterday I tried it in about 10 min., and then it just freezed
[02:59] <boink> it's not normal, no
[02:59] <gnomefreak> !pastebin | rolando
[02:59] <rolando> adept cuz apt i dont know how it tells me its broken
[02:59] <ubotu> rolando: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:00] <axion_> gyaresu: probably removed a pseudo package i wasnt supposed to remove
[03:00] <gyaresu> axion_, what about when you 'apt-get update' 'apt-get upgrade'
[03:00] <gnomefreak> rolando: the commands i gave you need to be ran in terminal
[03:00] <axion_> gyaresu: no sources.list is the default
[03:00] <Lobster> geokok  gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 31A5F97FED8A569E
[03:00] <axion_> gyaresu: same thing...no upgrades available and lists all that stuff as no longer needed
[03:01] <gyaresu> axion_, yeah... Sorry, that's extremely botched.
[03:01] <Lobster> geokok and then gpg --export --armor  31A5F97FED8A569E | sudo apt-key add -
[03:01] <geokok> Lobster: where do i add this\/
[03:01] <rolando> i pasted here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30622/
[03:01] <Lobster> you copy it into a terminal and hit enter
[03:01] <gnomefreak> rolando: ty brb
[03:01] <rolando> gnomefreak: i ran all those in a terminal
[03:01] <boink> grrr!
[03:01] <sugar-rush> on anjuta 2.x code completation really don't work !!!
[03:01] <sugar-rush> how to install a old version
[03:01] <sugar-rush> ??
[03:01] <boink> is there an alsa-conf or something like that in ubuntu?
[03:03] <sugar-rush> how to install a old version of anjuta on Ubuntu 6.10
[03:03] <sugar-rush> please help
[03:03] <geokok> Lobster+gnomefreak: all I needed was a little help from my friends! You guys are the best! thanks
[03:03] <gnomefreak> rolando: install compiz-core than remove the compiz-plugins than remove compiz-core
[03:03] <axion_> gyaresu: yeah...its not the first time this happened either. i went back to slackware last time it happened too :(
[03:03] <gyaresu> !alsa > boink
[03:03] <sugar-rush> may be the stable version
[03:03] <oangefly> can anyone help with my server....???....i can't get  into other peoples home folders....\\myserver\theirname   ....i can't get in with my login and password....
[03:04] <oangefly> in windows....
[03:04] <rolando> gnomefreak: thanx ill try that
[03:04] <gnomefreak> sugar-rush: you can try to go to packages.ubuntu.com and download the anjuta.deb from the dapper packages remove the version you have now and sudo dpkg -i anjuta<file.deb
[03:04] <gyaresu> oangefly, you've set up samba to share home dirs but as the user methinks.
[03:04] <boink> damm, this is 100 percent an ubuntu bug
[03:05] <boink> sound card not working, it just goes dead .. "resouce busy"
[03:05] <gnomefreak> sugar-rush: find out what version of libc6 is needed it will be listed on that page that you get the download. DO NOT change your libc6 package
[03:05] <gnomefreak> boink: is firefox using it?
[03:05] <oangefly> so i can't access other home folders from windows explorer....i can only use putty....???....
[03:05] <gyaresu> ls
[03:06] <sugar-rush> ok thanks a lot
[03:06] <gyaresu> oangefly, you can but... why would you want to?
[03:06] <otacon22_> anyone know something like ipkungfu but more esy to use/install?
[03:06] <boink> alsa-lib: pcm_hw.c:1217:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p failed: Device or resource busy <= great stuff
[03:06] <boink> and there's nothing using the card
[03:06] <gyaresu> otacon22_, ipkungfu isn't easy enough?
[03:07] <boink> gnomefreak: firefox is not. I've closed it
[03:07] <gnomefreak> boink: are you sure firefox isnt using it? and what version of ubuntu
[03:07] <boink> 6.06 LTS
[03:07] <otacon22_> gyaresu, no, and I haven't finded documentation to use it
[03:07] <gnomefreak> boink: just because you closed it doesnt mean its not running
[03:07] <boink> firefox and opera I've closed.
[03:07] <boink> it's not in ps aux
[03:07] <oangefly> it's the only thing i haven't been able to do....i thought it may come in handy if someone doesn't show up at work and i need to retrieve someing, and i don't have my laptop or their password with me....
[03:07] <boink> /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reset does nothing as well
[03:08] <gyaresu> oangefly, If you just want root access then you don't really want to be using samba...
[03:08] <gnomefreak> boink: is /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p in ps aux?
[03:08] <boink> i'll check
[03:09] <gyaresu> otacon22_, I know it's a little like jumping in the deep end but I recommend reading up on netfilter.
[03:09] <boink> no, it isn't
[03:09] <netG> hi
[03:09] <netG> I have a question...
[03:09] <gyaresu> !hi > netG
[03:09] <netG>  Is there a possibility to store Evolution mail messages in mysql?
[03:09] <oangefly> i have a software raid1 and everyone will be backing up to the server from windows....
[03:09] <gyaresu> netG, possible yes. pragmatic...
[03:09] <mrmist> Hi all :)
[03:09] <boink> ubuntu bug, 100 percent
[03:09] <gyaresu> !hi mrmist
[03:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about hi mrmist - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:10] <boink> something blocks my sound card. this sux!
[03:10] <axion_> boink: bug tracker may help more than here then
[03:10] <gnomefreak> boink: i do remember firefox using snd after being closed in breezy and dapper. the guy i know (expert on sound issues) is gone for 2 days. can you restart X and use sound card again?
[03:10] <oangefly> i learned this in two weeks....i am just trying get everything perfect before i use it for everyone at work....
[03:10] <boink> dammit! I want my sound back! *sniff*
[03:10] <snowshoefox> Is there support document for connecting to my ubuntu pc from a windows xp laptop?
[03:10] <boink> gnomefreak: heh .. too busy at work to restart, sadly.
[03:10] <mrmist> Is there any way to limit the apps in the GNOME panel, to the windows that
[03:11] <priich> boink, have you tried MAKEDEV ?
[03:11] <boink> it shouldn't crash on me like that
[03:11] <gnomefreak> snowshoefox: putty and i think that would be on lines of a windows support question more so than ubuntu
[03:11] <gyaresu> snowshoefox, File sharing? Or what?
[03:11] <mrmist> er... to the windows that are minimized
[03:11] <otacon22_> gyaresu, you really don't know how I have to do after had installed ipkungfu and lunched it?
[03:11] <boink> come back to lunch, and dammit, won't play any sound
[03:11] <boink> s/to/from/
[03:11] <otacon22_> to configurate
[03:11] <mrmist> I just want the windows not showing to appear in the panel
[03:11] <priich> boink, so it did work before ?
[03:11] <gnomefreak> boink: agreed it shouldnt. is there anything in ps aux that is /usr/bin?
[03:11] <otacon22_> uff, there is'nt documentation??!!!
[03:11] <boink> prefectly, yes
[03:11] <gyaresu> otacon22_, Sorry, can I have that again in english please?
[03:11] <Feonix762> Quick question.. how can I determine what version of GCC was used to compile my kernel?
[03:11] <priich> boink, and you used say mplayer or flash in firefox ?
[03:11] <frandavid101> sorry, I have a question
[03:12] <Plzr> could someone help me with installing my wifi-drivers with NDiswrapper? I want to load a driver for my Linksys WPC54G wireless adapter but ndiswrapper gives me an error
[03:12] <snowshoefox> gyaresu, for RDP sessions
[03:12] <boink> priich: there's no ff in the ps aux output
[03:12] <Feonix762> What is the error Plzr?
[03:12] <Plzr> root@pulz0r-laptop:/home/pulz0r/Desktop# ndiswrapper -i LSBCMNDS.inf
[03:12] <Plzr> Installing lsbcmnds
[03:12] <Plzr> couldn't copy LSBCMNDS.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135.
[03:12] <boink> but I'm still looking through the ps aux output
[03:12] <mrmist> Feonix762: uname -a ?
[03:12] <frandavid101> when I call the shutdown menu, it doesn't darken the screen or capture mouse clicks
[03:12] <Plzr> an I dont kow what I should do with this or where the error is
[03:12] <frandavid101> it behaves like any other window
[03:12] <gnomefreak> boink: anything with /usr/bin i would like to see. from ps aux
[03:12] <otacon22_> gyaresu, What I need to do after have lunched ipkungfu in shell to configurate it?
[03:12] <frandavid101> do you have any ide why?
[03:13] <boybach> can anyone help with my keyboard problem?
[03:13] <boink> there's lot of stuff from /usr/bin/
[03:13] <Feonix762> mrmist, doesn't work :(
[03:13] <gnomefreak> boink: i know
[03:13] <gyaresu> otacon22_, you need to read the man... 'man ipkungfu'
[03:13] <snowshoefox> nm, i'll try freenx
[03:13] <boink> could I kill esd? is that something to do with sound?
[03:13] <gyaresu> snowshoefox, RDP from windows >> linux  ??
[03:13] <gnomefreak> yes
[03:13] <Feonix762> I need to build a module using the same version of GCC that was used to compile the kernel or it won't work
[03:13] <floating> My ndiswrapper problem; I installed drivers to it, then modprobe it, but it doesnt initialize wlan0 like it should I guess... with iwconfig there is wlan information on eth1, and it wont work as I try use that instead
[03:13] <snowshoefox> yes gyaresu
[03:13] <Feonix762> How can I figure out what version of GCC was used to compile the kernel?
[03:13] <gnomefreak> boink: yes esd is sound
[03:14] <gnomefreak> !esd | boink
[03:14] <ubotu> boink: esd is the enlightened sound deamon. It's deprecated, use !alsa instead
[03:14] <boink> heh, killed it
[03:14] <snowshoefox> !freenx
[03:14] <ubotu> freenx is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX
[03:14] <floating> Plzr: did you try install the .inf from the dir the .inf was in?
[03:14] <snowshoefox> sweeeeetness
[03:14] <snowshoefox> :)
[03:14] <Plzr> yes
[03:14] <bluefox83> Feonix762, what module?
[03:14] <gnomefreak> boink: sound should work unless something else is using it
[03:14] <Feonix762> madwifi drivers
[03:14] <gnomefreak> boink: a good idea if you can change it from esd to alsa (the drivers)
[03:14] <bluefox83> hrm
[03:14] <boink> nope.
[03:14] <boink> hmm .. ok, I'll look into that
[03:15] <aldwin> yo wassup
[03:15] <boink> I've just been using the 6.06 LTS install
[03:15] <gyaresu> snowshoefox, Well would need to be running vnc client or something.
[03:15] <bluefox83> Feonix762, you might try doing apt-cache show <kernel)
[03:15] <bluefox83> *>
[03:15] <gnomefreak> boink: than there is something else using it. (/usr/bin) should be using it just not sure what /usr/bin/* it is
[03:15] <axion_> boink: does alsamixer load?
[03:15] <boink> well .. I killed esd
[03:15] <Faithful> Feonix762: cat /proc/version
[03:16] <boink> and now it says "resource busy" and would even play the sound as well
[03:16] <boink> I've never seen this in any open source distro
[03:16] <aldwin> at last im using ubunt
[03:16] <Feonix762> Thank you much Faithful : )
[03:16] <aldwin> does anyone know how to play an mp3 here?
[03:16] <gnomefreak> !mp3 | aldwin
[03:16] <ubotu> aldwin: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:16] <boink> damm ... I'll need to spend at least a few hours on this bug. dammit
[03:16] <gyaresu> !codecs > aldwin
[03:16] <gnomefreak> !sound | boink
[03:16] <ubotu> boink: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If you are still having problems with sound, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems  and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[03:16] <zhaohui> Hi
[03:17] <gnomefreak> boink: maybe that will help a bit
[03:17] <boink> ta
[03:17] <gnomefreak> yw
[03:17] <boink> !tell boink about sound
[03:17] <mrmist> I don't want Windows that are open to appear in the window-list, anyone know how I'll fix this ?
[03:18] <snowshoefox> !tell me about life
[03:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about life - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:19] <priich> ugh my xorg is still hosed. which files should be in :   /usr/share/X11/fonts/75dpi  ?
[03:20] <Ayabara> what must I do to adjust ffmpeg postprocessing level in totem? what is the default?
[03:20] <gnomefreak> priich: that should just abe a warning not an error and shouldnt cause any issue to xorg
[03:21] <abhinay> Hi there
[03:21] <abhinay> my friend is unable to boot in to edgy, because of xorg fail. that errors are : (EE) VESA(0): No matching modes  , (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal server error: no screens found
[03:21] <abhinay> Any idea ?
[03:22] <gnomefreak> priich: btw setting the driver to vesa should give you X
[03:22] <gyaresu> !pastebin > abhinay
[03:22] <gyaresu> abhinay, let's have a look.
[03:22] <abhinay> gyaresu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30624/
[03:22] <gnomefreak> abhinay: install xserver-xorg-video-all
[03:22] <diminthedam> hello. How do i update my wireless driver on thinkpad?
[03:22] <priich> gnomefreak, when i do xset fp -rehash, i get bad font element #76. directory missing or do not exist, or has wrong permissions or directory missing fonts.dir or incorrect font server address or syntax
[03:22] <gnomefreak> abhinay: also make sure BusID is right
[03:23] <gyaresu> gnomefreak, Is that just ALL the xorg packages as a metapackage?
[03:23] <Ayabara> is there more to 'movie player' than meets the eye? can I make it more configurable?
[03:23] <gnomefreak> priich: open synaptic and search for fonts install the ones you need
[03:23] <gnomefreak> gyaresu: no thats all the drivers packages
[03:23] <gyaresu> ah.
[03:24] <gnomefreak> gyaresu: what used to be xserver-xorg-driver-nv is now xserver-xorg-video-nv  replace nv for all and it will install all of them nv vesa mesa so on
[03:24] <Ayabara> anyone? is there an irc channel for totem movie player?
[03:24] <jrib> Ayabara: not really, try, mplayer, vlc, gxine, xine-ui
[03:24] <gyaresu> gnomefreak, thanks. interesting.
[03:25] <Ayabara> jrib: ok. thanks. I'm on kaffeine now, but it keeps crashing on wmv files...
[03:25] <gyaresu> abhinay, try gnomefreak idea. ^^
[03:25] <abhinay> gyaresu: ok
[03:25] <gnomefreak> abhinay: if this was an upgrade you may need more packages.
[03:25] <priich> gnomefreak, hehe well that is kind of the problem. gksudo synaptic gives : received an X window system error. error was badname, font or color does not exist
[03:26] <gnomefreak> priich: forgot your in tty
[03:26] <gnomefreak> priich: apt-cache search fonts | less than use the page dwn key to scroll
[03:26] <abhinay> gnomefreak: edgy is fresh installed. btw, what is BusID ?
[03:27] <priich> gnomefreak, yeah i did that. seems i have all the packages installed that should give the fonts listed when i do "xset q"
[03:27] <gnomefreak> abhinay: in /etc/X11/xorg you will see a line under device (driver) BusID PCI:...... that needs to match what pci slot the card is in
[03:27] <gnomefreak> oops
[03:27] <abhinay> ok
[03:27] <gnomefreak> abhinay: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:28] <gnomefreak> abhinay: lspci should give you the busid number
[03:28] <gnomefreak> abhinay: it will look like 02:02:0
[03:29] <gnomefreak> abhinay: not that exact number but should look simular. if you see a letter in there let me know but iirc edgy shows it as it needs to be not in hex dec
[03:29] <bossjock77> Mornin' all.
[03:30] <bossjock77> I need some help.  :-)
[03:30] <abhinay> okey !
[03:30] <gnomefreak> me walks away for a bit i havent slept in over 24 hours
[03:30] <bossjock77> I just installed the latest release... 6.10 I think.
[03:30] <bossjock77> Install went fine... but when I boot my PC... instead of a login screen, my monitor goes into stand-by mode.
[03:31] <dv5237> gnomefreak: how come you havent slept over 24H ?
[03:31] <boink> dang it, I'll file a bug report some day ...
[03:31] <internat> are there any standard guides for installing a redeon 9600?
[03:31] <boink> no sound ... grrrrrrr!
[03:33] <djuuss> Hi, got serious problem
[03:33] <gyaresu> !ati > internat
[03:33] <bossjock77> I'm sure it's a resolution problem of some kind... can I change the default resolution at the command line?
[03:34] <djuuss> How do i install and setup a new Grub from the live cd? Already have a 6.06 installation but its GRUB and Fstab are FUBAR
[03:34] <boink> dang it, need to reboot. almost as lame as windows.
[03:34] <gyaresu> bossjock77, you can. /etc/X11/xorg.conf (be sure to backup first)
[03:34] <dv5237> bossjock77: you can adjust xorg.conf by entering 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf' im not sure how that would work though changing the resolution on the CLI
[03:35] <dv5237> boink: lol yeah almost ;x
[03:35] <bossjock77> Lemme give that a shot... stand by.
[03:36] <gyaresu> boink, how far are you with the sound?
[03:36] <priich> woohoo. seems i got the xfonts issue resolved. thanks for the help!
[03:36] <gyaresu> !grub > djuuss,
[03:36] <Yancho> Hi guys, anyone can tell me a good tutorial to install cgi-script pls ?
[03:36] <djuuss> !grub
[03:36] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:37] <gyaresu> Yancho, apache documentation is best.
[03:37] <bossjock77> Actually... I'm reading on the forum that this is a common problem.  My video card has dual outputs... and is a nVidia card.
[03:37] <iwkse> hi all. How's possible my stick usb isn't recognized?? neither by lsusb...
[03:37] <BeanBag> hi there, how do you install themes on ubuntu dapper (not login screen), and where can i download it?
[03:37] <jrib> ubotu: please tell BeanBag about themes
[03:37] <gyaresu> iwkse, really really cheap one (the chips can be dodgy)
[03:37] <Yancho> gyaresu so u suggest i go and ask in #apche ? is it something i can do apt-get install pls ?
[03:37] <bossjock77> It says I need to install new drivers for my video card... how do I do that from the CLI?
[03:37] <snowshoefox> dangit... who changed my su pw
[03:38] <iwkse> gyaresu: no..on my laptop works great, and there's ubuntu egty too..right the same as on pc
[03:38] <gyaresu> Yancho, apt-get "information", no. You can find out how to use them from apache.org however.
[03:38] <djuuss> gyaresu, thanks that 'recovering ubuntu after installing windows' link really helped :D (not that i installed.. *shudder* windows)
[03:38] <BeanBag> jrib:????
[03:38] <gyaresu> djuuss, cool.
[03:39] <csirstepri> hi
[03:39] <csirstepri> how are you all
[03:39] <iwkse> gyaresu: and i'm sure i used it again on this pc, time ago
[03:39] <mike1o> any edgy users here? please post output of cat /proc/asound/version ...
[03:39] <gyaresu> iwkse, checked 'dmesg' and 'messages' ?
[03:39] <iwkse> gyaresu: i try
[03:40] <BeanBag> how do you install themes on ubuntu dapper (not login screen), and where can i download it?
[03:40] <gyaresu> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.12rc1 (Thu Jun 22 13:55:50 2006 UTC).
[03:40] <csirstepri> frank
[03:40] <dv5237> mike1o: sudo: /proc/asound/version: command not found
[03:40] <csirstepri> and you
[03:40] <bossjock77> I think I need to study up on how to use this CLI.
[03:40] <thartman> sudo apt-get update keeps timing out with "99%... waiting for headers" -- http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/NnC0SS24.html
[03:40] <gyaresu> mike1o, ^^
[03:40] <mike1o> dv5237, did u write cat before it?
[03:40] <thartman> is there something wrong with de.archive.ubuntu.com ?
[03:40] <thartman> i'm on dapper drake
[03:41] <dv5237> mike1o: im sorry i forgot >> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.12rc1 (Thu Jun 22 13:55:50 2006 UTC).
[03:41] <gyaresu> bossjock77, cool commands: man, locate (updatedb), apropos
[03:41] <jrib> BeanBag: did you receive a private message from ubotu?
[03:41] <djuuss> In fstab, how do i mount a swap space? mount it to 'none' with type 'swap'  or mount it to 'swap' with type 'swap'
[03:41] <mike1o> ok tnx dv5237 its not a virus any way in case you're worried :-)
[03:41] <Plzr> I installed drivers for my wificard, they should be right ndiswrapper says driver present/hardware present but how do I make the drivers work for my card now
[03:42] <dv5237> mike1o: i wassnt ;)
[03:42] <aldwin> is ubuntu a ntfs format or a fat32?
[03:42] <mike1o> dv5237, i know...
[03:42] <mike1o> aldwin, ??
[03:42] <dv5237> mike1o: good :x
[03:42] <gyaresu> djuuss, UUID=a6c99ffb-7f1b-4c05-befd-14179fd4979f none swap sw 0 0
[03:42] <mike1o> aldwin, ext3
[03:42] <Yancho> aldwin :S pls :(
[03:42] <djuuss> aldwin: it defaults to ext3 i think. So neither fat32 nor ntfs
[03:42] <bossjock77> Well... I ran sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx on the CLI... and it's doing SOMETHING.
[03:42] <iwkse> gyaresu: i get a lot of this [17179579.200000]  usb 4-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
[03:42] <Plzr> if I want to activate eth1 via networkadmin this doesnt work correct
[03:42] <gyaresu> djuuss, where UUID is the swap partition.
[03:42] <iwkse> just changing the address 2
[03:42] <bossjock77> Whether or not it's what I need to do... I'll find out.  :-P
[03:42] <Tjoels> what should i use for beryl? glx, aiglx or the nvidia beta drivers. i'm on edgy.
[03:43] <djuuss> gyaresu thx
[03:43] <gyaresu> iwkse, that's good.
[03:43] <elro> what are <release>-updates?
[03:43] <iwkse> with progressive numbers
[03:43] <gyaresu> djuuss, no probs.
[03:43] <aldwin> whats ext3 is it a new format that i dont know since i only know fat16, fat32 and ntfs... (im using ubuntu now)
[03:43] <iwkse> till 171
[03:43] <djuuss> Gonna logout now and rescue with the install cd :) thanks gyaresu
[03:43] <elro> aldwin: ext3 is the linux filesystem format
[03:43] <Tjoels> aldwin: it's the most widely used file system for linux, i think
[03:43] <gyaresu> aldwin, ext3 is the 'standard' file system for linux. (there are many others)
[03:44] <BeanBag> jrib: no i did not
[03:44] <aldwin> ah okay, ext3 is the most used. ah okay, thank you very...
[03:44] <aldwin> very very much
[03:44] <Tjoels> :)
[03:44] <Tjoels> np
[03:44] <Plzr> if I try to activate eth1 (my wificard) via Network Settings it takes a really long time to activatebut when I start up my network settings again its still not active
[03:44] <iwkse> gyaresu: how i can check what problem could be?
[03:44] <gyaresu> iwkse, usb?
[03:45] <iwkse> gyaresu: do you mean a problem with usb port^?
[03:45] <aldwin> can ext3 (file format of linux. Thus, ubuntu) can mount/understand ntfs???
[03:45] <gyaresu> iwkse, 'tail -f /var/log/message' then stick it in.
[03:45] <Tjoels> aldwin, yea, it can, but not with full support i think
[03:45] <phaedrus44> aldwin:  firts off there is ext2 also ...   and yes ntfs reading and writing is possible
[03:45] <gyaresu> iwkse, 'dmesg | less' and you should see it come up with a drive && partition number sdd1 etc.
[03:46] <elro> ah updates are major bug fixes produced after final release
[03:46] <gyaresu> aldwin, no Tjoels the kernel can.
[03:46] <XiXaQ> Isn't there a harddrive manager in edgy?
[03:46] <gyaresu> aldwin, Tjoels ext3 is just a file system.
[03:47] <gyaresu> !ntfs-3g > aldwin Tjoels
[03:47] <Tjoels> gyaresu, hehe, i know.
[03:47] <aldwin> phaedrus44, so is it possible if i have a ntfs hard disk and i plug it here in my pc running ext3(which is my ubuntu) will i be able to modify anything from that old hard disk (ntfs)???
[03:47] <iwkse> gyaresu: mm.--[17179579.200000]  usb 4-6: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 2
[03:47] <bossjock77> OK... ran the updated nVidia drivers... and the monitor is still shutting off.
[03:47] <iwkse> ops..
[03:47] <iwkse> gyaresu: [17180124.460000]  hub 4-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 5.  Maybe the USB cable is
[03:47] <iwkse> bad?
[03:47] <gyaresu> bossjock77, nvidia card with two digital outs?
[03:48] <XiXaQ> aldwin, it is possible, yes. You can mount your C:\ in a folder in your filesystem, for instance, /media/windows
[03:48] <gyaresu> iwkse, back usb port is it? or a front?
[03:48] <bossjock77> n... one analog and one digital.  I'm using the analog.
[03:48] <iwkse> gyaresu: its a front port
[03:48] <netpython> bossjock77, hor and vert frequecies of your monitor set right in /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[03:48] <aldwin> ah okay... i'll try that...
[03:48] <iwkse> gyaresu: i try to put it back...
[03:48] <aldwin> thank you very much
[03:48] <gyaresu> iwkse, try the back. front are usually crappy headers.
[03:48] <davvs> is there any nice command to make the computer "say/pronounce" a custom sentence?
[03:48] <iwkse> gyaresu: yeah
[03:48] <bossjock77> Hang on... I'll look.
[03:49] <gyaresu> davvs, festival
[03:49] <zhaohui> how to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06
[03:49] <gyaresu> davvs, sounds crappy though.
[03:49] <phaedrus44> aldwin:  you may have to mount as root....
[03:49] <gyaresu> davvs, 80's style.
[03:49] <netpython> !upgrade
[03:49] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[03:49] <nickthorley> hi all - has anyone got an adaptec 1420sa sata card and if so does it work ok with ubuntu
[03:49] <nasragiel> b
[03:49] <nasragiel> howcan
[03:49] <fblade> hey guys why when i log out of ubuntu does my monitor go into power saving mode could i have a problem with my drivers
[03:49] <dv5237> davvs: mbrola, festival, epos
[03:49] <phaedrus44> sudo mount /dev/whateverthentsfsis /mnt/windows  (or /media/windows)
[03:49] <zhaohui> how to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06
[03:49] <zhaohui> how to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06
[03:49] <derFlo> hallo
[03:49] <zhaohui> how to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06
[03:49] <derFlo> hi
[03:49] <derFlo> hello
[03:49] <zhaohui> how to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06
[03:49] <zhaohui> how to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06
[03:49] <zhaohui> how to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06
[03:49] <zhaohui> how to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06
[03:49] <jrib> !repeat | zhaohui
[03:49] <zhaohui> how to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06
[03:49] <ubotu> zhaohui: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly, if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://wiki.ubuntu.com while you wait. Also see !patience
[03:49] <davvs> ok thanks dv5237 and gyaresu
[03:49] <zhaohui> how to upgrade from 5.10 to 6.06
[03:49] <nasragiel> how can i enable remote login via ssh on a ubuntu dapper server?
[03:49] <gyaresu> nickthorley, You'd have more luck with a web search i reckon.
[03:49] <dv5237> zhaohui: tell zhaohui about upgrade
[03:50] <dv5237> ubotu: tell zhaohui about upgrade
[03:50] <netpython> !upgrade | zhaohui
[03:50] <ubotu> zhaohui: For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[03:50] <gyaresu> zhaohui, chillout please.
[03:50] <derFlo> Redet ihr deutsch?
[03:50] <iwkse> gyaresu: right..it works now
[03:50] <iwkse> gyaresu: thanks
[03:50] <fblade> hey guys why when i log out of ubuntu does my monitor go into power saving mode could i have a problem with my drivers
[03:50] <gyaresu> iwkse, nice. welcome.
[03:50] <netpython> !de | derFlo
[03:50] <ubotu> derFlo: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:50] <iwkse> gyaresu: i'll remember that front crappy shit
[03:51] <gyaresu> iwkse, aye.
[03:51] <gyaresu> iwkse, usb 1.1 usually not usb2
[03:51] <netG> sono tornato
[03:51] <bossjock77> How do I edit xorg.conf?
[03:51] <imperfect-> Howdy
[03:51] <bossjock77> I'm in the directory... but I can't get past that.
[03:52] <derFlo> i've got some problems with VMware, can i get support for this here?
[03:52] <Cieffe> someone know how to setup ekiga to use wengo account?
[03:52] <gyaresu> bossjock77, 'sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[03:52] <gyaresu> bossjock77, backup first.
[03:52] <imperfect-> Anyone here know how I can update from breezy to edgy on a remote server?
[03:52] <netpython> bossjock77, sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:52] <jrib> bossjock77: use 'gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'  if you don't know how to use vi
[03:52] <Cieffe> It goes timeout trying connecting :(
[03:52] <gyaresu> jrib, bossjock77 If you don't know vi then try 'vimtutor' first ;)
[03:52] <jrib> ubotu: tell bossjock77 about sudo
[03:53] <fblade> hey guys why when i log out of ubuntu does my monitor go into power saving mode could i have a problem with my drivers
[03:53] <netpython> !sudo | bossjock77
[03:53] <ubotu> bossjock77: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:53] <gyaresu> fblade, That is a grammatically poor sentence.
[03:54] <netpython> !sudo  | _*
[03:54] <ubotu> _*: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[03:54] <Materazzi> here's what i get when i try to upgrade to edgy from dapper http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30631/
[03:54] <priich> hehe kind of evil recommending vim as an editor for someone that isn't all that experienced with *nix. :)
[03:55] <fblade> sorry i meant why when ever i log-out from ubuntu does my Monitor go into standby mode, could i have a problem with my drivers?
[03:55] <gyaresu> Materazzi, try other repos.
[03:55] <gyaresu> priich, how else does one get experienced?
[03:55] <Materazzi> gyaresu, oh yeah...
[03:55] <[H] 3b0R> how can change the color to the font on the menu line?
[03:56] <Tjoels> Should i install Beryl together with GLX or AIGLX?
[03:56] <[H] 3b0R> Tjoels: waht grapcis card do you have?
[03:56] <jvolkman> Tjoels, you mean XGL?
[03:56] <mamonassassina> hello,what command should I use to open blender in "windowed" mode?
[03:56] <gyaresu> Tjoels, I wouldn't bother. That's just me.
[03:56] <Tjoels> [H] 3b0R it's Nvidia
[03:57] <[H] 3b0R> tjoels: aiglx
[03:57] <Tjoels> jvolkman, yeah, it was a typo
[03:57] <gyaresu> !beryl > Tjoels
[03:58] <Tjoels> [H] 3b0R, okay, but what's the difference between them?
[03:58] <gyaresu> mamonassassina, tried the blender manual?
[03:58] <bossjock77> Reconfigured so that it defaults to 1024 x 768.
[03:58] <priich> gyaresu, one step at the time ?
[03:58] <bossjock77> Rebooted... screen still dead.
[03:58] <gyaresu> Tjoels, there is an #ubuntu-xgl channel
[03:59] <[H] 3b0R> Tjoels: AIGLX is a part of the graphics driver XGL, is just an hack that gives nothing than issues
[03:59] <mamonassassina> gyaresu: let me see
[03:59] <Tjoels> gyaresu: ok, i'll go there ;)
[03:59] <gyaresu> priich, exactly. starting with a text editor...
[03:59] <mamonassassina> gyaresu: but a simple command in the properties of the shortcut makes it open in windowed.
[03:59] <[H] 3b0R> Tjoels: im there to...
[04:00] <Tjoels> [H] 3b0R, ok, great
[04:00] <gyaresu> mamonassassina, Is that an answer? Did you find the solution?
[04:00] <mamonassassina> gyaresu: that is not an answer,that is the reason why i came to the channel to ask for help
[04:00] <mamonassassina> gyaresu: no,i didn't find the solution yet
[04:00] <hassan> quit
[04:00] <gyaresu> mamonassassina, So you've read the blender manual? 'man blender'
[04:01] <fblade> how can i write to a removable ntfs disk?
[04:01] <gyaresu> hassan, no
[04:01] <gyaresu> !ntfs-3g > fblade
[04:01] <thegve> fblade: Have you enabled NTFS write support in the kernel?
[04:01] <priich> mamonassassina, try pressing alt+downarrow
[04:02] <fblade> thegve| how do i do that
[04:02] <gyaresu> thegve, You DONT want to put it in the kernel.
[04:02] <mamonassassina> gyaresu: i'm there now
[04:02] <mamonassassina> priich: no effect.
[04:02] <predator> hi
[04:02] <gyaresu> !hi > predator
[04:02] <fblade>  !ntfs-3g
[04:02] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[04:02] <predator> how can i get in system menu in ubuntu?
[04:02] <gyaresu> fblade, you can just /msg ubotu
[04:03] <priich> mamonassassina, is there an icon that looks like this:    ^            (but upside down) ?
[04:03] <thegve> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_mount_Windows_partitions_.28NTFS.29_on_boot-up.2C_and_allow_users_read_and_write_access
[04:03] <LDforever> my system has both xfce and Gnome installed every time I log on in xfce bug buddy runs. Where can i fing information about the bug
[04:04] <mamonassassina> priich: no
[04:04] <priich> mamonassassina, if that doesn't help then may i suggest you ask the question in #blender  They should be able to give you a better answer.
[04:05] <thegve> How can I make sure that normal users can mount samba mounts? I'm writing a login script and I don't plan to run anything as root in there...
[04:05] <thegve> I know the fstab way
[04:05] <thegve> I mean using the mount command as a normal user
[04:05] <mamonassassina> priich: yes,probably,but as I thought the solution was in the shortcut,I came here.i'll ask the question there,thank you very much.
[04:05] <thegve> And i tried giving it the SUID bit
[04:05] <M0E^lnx> hey, is there a way to boot the 6.10 cd into CLI without the graphics and all?
[04:05] <gyaresu> thegve, smb.conf there is a specific example and section in that file
[04:05] <priich> mamonassassina, no it seems like it is an application specific setting. Good luck!
[04:06] <ryanpg> anyone having trouble with java/swing locking up their computers? I certainly am.
[04:06] <hassan> salut merouane
[04:06] <abhinay> gnomefreak: there ?
[04:06] <patrick_king> !real
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about real - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <patrick_king> !realplayer
[04:06] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:06] <Plzr> is it true that ndiswrapper sees wlan0 as default wifi-adapter?
[04:07] <Plzr> because my wifiadapter is at eth1
[04:07] <abhinay> gnomefreak: xorg log : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30624/  |  xorg.conf : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30625/ | lspci : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30628/
[04:07] <floating> plzr mine too
[04:07] <gyaresu> !ndiswrapper > Plzr
[04:07] <M0E^lnx> guys.... guys... how do I boot into CLI ?
[04:07] <gyaresu> !ndiswrapper > floating
[04:08] <gyaresu> M0E^lnx, You can just ctrl+alt+F2
[04:08] <elro> how do I ensure that all python standard library modules are installed (i.e. those excluded in python-minimal)?
[04:08] <M0E^lnx> that doesn't work
[04:08] <dooglus> thegve: do you know about fusesmb?  you can mount all the smb shares in one go at boot time
[04:08] <gyaresu> M0E^lnx, sorry.
[04:08] <M0E^lnx> I tried all the alt+F and ctrl+alt+f gyaresu....
[04:08] <mamonassassina> priich: hey,i discovered what to do.i should open it with -w
[04:08] <dooglus> thegve: I see /mnt/smb/<workgroup>/<host>/<share>/stuff
[04:09] <patrick_king> how do i install realmedia player
[04:09] <gyaresu> M0E^lnx, Yeah. I havn't used that disk in that way. I have one of all the types, so I just use the alternative mostly.
[04:09] <floating> Plzr: according to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31926&page=2 some have got it working on eth1
[04:09] <dooglus> !restricted-formats
[04:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about restricted-formats - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:09] <dooglus> !restrictedformats
[04:09] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:09] <gyaresu> mamonassassina, 'blender -w'
[04:09] <dooglus> patrick_king: I think those links from ubotu there will help
[04:10] <mamonassassina> gyaresu: exactly.
[04:10] <Tim90> how can i down grade my 64bit to 32
[04:10] <floating> I boot to xubu to try some ->
[04:10] <bossjock77> Have edited xorg.conf... now how do I save it and exit?
[04:10] <gyaresu> Tim90, nope. can't
[04:10] <M0E^lnx> gyaresu: the problem is, I have a mobo with built-in video (unused) and a PCI nvidia (the one I actually use)... but I see nothing out of any one of them
[04:10] <dooglus> Tim90: I'll swap with you if you like?
[04:10] <Tim90> dooglus: ok
[04:11] <dooglus> Tim90: it's a 2.2GHz P4 laptop.  what's yours?
[04:11] <Tim90> 64 bit is a pian
[04:11] <gyaresu> M0E^lnx, Can't change the default card in BIOS. Should be able to.
[04:11] <Plzr> floating: it should work
[04:11] <boink> you can't downgrade from 64 bit to 32 bit
[04:11] <Tim90> its a pc
[04:11] <boink> you need to do a new install
[04:11] <gyaresu> Tim90, and pointless really.
[04:11] <boink> 32 bit works fine on a 64 bit box
[04:11] <thegve> dooglus: I was just reading the smb.conf, and couldn't find anything about it in there. I'll checkout fusesmb
[04:11] <M0E^lnx> gyaresu: well, I run Vector Linux on the other drive, and it picks it up right... the default in BIOS is the NVIDIA card...
[04:12] <patrick_king> there isnt anything about RealPlayer on edgy
[04:12] <M0E^lnx> but that one goes blank..
[04:12] <Tim90> gyaresu i agree , just fel like makng use of it ,feels like a waste
[04:12] <boink> I was wondering that too .. using realplay on edgy
[04:12] <dooglus> thegve: fusesmb is a filesystem in user space (ie. not in the kernel).  it's quite separate from samba and smbfs
[04:12] <gyaresu> Tim90, only cause app support isn't there.
[04:12] <M0E^lnx> gyaresu: and if I switch the monitor to the intel chip, all I see is lines all across
[04:12] <boink> Tim90: you could try another linux distro, if you feel ubuntu doesn't do enuf
[04:12] <gyaresu> M0E^lnx, res problem.
[04:12] <Tim90> real player works on edgy
[04:12] <boink> it just depends on what you want to do
[04:13] <boink> sure, but from which repo?
[04:13] <M0E^lnx> yes, so how do I go from there back to the CLI?
[04:13] <boink> I couldn't find the right repo to apt-get realplay
[04:13] <Tim90> I like the icons in Kubuntu but soom got annoying
[04:13] <boink> I installed xubuntu on an old sony laptop
[04:13] <patrick_king> Tim90 how did you install it
[04:13] <gyaresu> M0E^lnx, This is for an install right?
[04:13] <Plzr> why is every version of the Linksys WPC54G listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported exept for v3.x
[04:13] <Tim90> live cd
[04:13] <patrick_king> i mean RealPlayer
[04:14] <Tim90> another thing is i got some on called pov to set up, my partions right, and do my network stuff, remotly controlling my pc
[04:14] <thegve> dooglus: This is where I am hacking on... http://pastebin.com/819739
[04:15] <thegve> It wil need to be a bit prettier...
[04:16] <Tim90> i will go and burn edgy 6.10, then install it.
[04:16] <Tim90> its a shame i almost had this set up the way i wanted it
[04:17] <M0E^lnx> gyaresu: yes, this is for an install
[04:17] <Tim90> i will be back after i have burnt the 6.10 32 bit, see you guys later
[04:18] <predator> is there any utility for mount and umount hdd?
[04:18] <thegve> dooglus: It is meant as a Linux variant on the kixtart scripts
[04:18] <slavik> predator: you just named them ...
[04:18] <thegve> We maintain "hybrid" networks
[04:20] <Pelo> predator,  I think you can do it natively from nautilus
[04:20] <brrrt> hi all!
[04:20] <slavik> yo
[04:20] <brrrt> is one 8GB swap partition OK for a amd64 server with 4GB of RAM ?
[04:20] <hassan> salut
[04:20] <gharz> guys...  checked google and it looks like ubuntu doesn't support webcam?
[04:20] <slavik> 8GB is a lot ... especially with 4GB ram
[04:20] <hassan> Merou where r u
[04:21] <dooglus> thegve: PHP?  yuck!
[04:21] <knoppix> hda: write_intr: error=0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, CHS=115/10/51, sector=116600
[04:21] <knoppix> what's wrong this my hda?
[04:21] <Lachkater> 8GB swap ?
[04:21] <brrrt> slavik: do you think i should take less?
[04:21] <slavik> brrrt: on my home system with 1Gb of RAM, it made a 3GB swap and it almost never gets used
[04:21] <Lachkater> a bit too much i think everything above 2B would be ok ;)
[04:21] <thegve> dooglus: What's "objective" wrong with PHP?
[04:21] <lupine_85> I have 1.5GB RAM and /never/ use swap
[04:21] <slavik> brrrt: 2GB swap should be plenty for you
[04:21] <brrrt> sure but it is a server
[04:21] <brrrt> ok
[04:21] <slavik> oh, if it's a server then yeah. 8GB is reasonable
[04:22] <brrrt> i expect hight traffic...
[04:22] <dooglus> brrrt: I've never filled up my 1GB of swap except for when something has crashed, and then I was glad I only had 1GB for it to fill before the system came back to life...
[04:22] <lupine_85> my server has 128MB RAM and 1GB swap
[04:22] <lupine_85> it's hosting a beryl mirror, and hasn't had any problems so far :p
[04:22] <sivik> what file would i need to add a line to in order to run a script when i load x
[04:22] <lupine_85> rc.local
[04:22] <slavik> .xsession
[04:22] <dooglus> thegve: it's just ugly.  a mish-mash of poorly thought out bits and pieces
[04:22] <slavik> in your home dir
[04:22] <lupine_85> oh, lead x... yeah :)
[04:23] <brrrt> if its just a waste of hd-space i would take 8GB, but it is making any problems i would not
[04:23] <sivik> lupine_85: so does it need to be rc.local or .xession?
[04:23] <lupine_85> .xsession
[04:23] <lupine_85> sorry
[04:23] <slavik> sivik: does this script have a GUI?
[04:23] <dooglus> sivik: ~/.xprofile
[04:23] <thegve> dooglus: "OK" (whatever)
[04:23] <brrrt> k. thx for your thoughts !
[04:23] <slavik> .cprofile, firt I ever heard of it ...
[04:23] <slavik> .xprofile*
[04:23] <morphycs> I disabled ipv6 in Edgy 6.10 but I still get slow response, any help?
[04:24] <sivik> slavik: no, its a script to start xscreensave-demo so i can use a hotkey to lock my laptop
[04:24] <mike1o> i get this error when upgrading from dapper to edgy http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30639/
[04:24] <slavik> sivik: Ctrl+Alt+L much?
[04:24] <sivik> slavik: i use ctrl-l cause my lock screen seems to not work correctly in e17
[04:24] <slavik> check System -> Pref -> Keyboard shortcuts
[04:25] <sivik> slavik: i'm not running gnome nor kde
[04:25] <slavik> sivik: fair enough
[04:25] <M0E^lnx> so does any one know of any parameters maybe I can use at the boot prompt to avoid all the graphic stuff?
[04:25] <Pelo> morphish,  it happens, have you tested your connection with a test site ?
[04:25] <dooglus> slavik: run this if you want to hear of it a 2nd time:  grep /.xprofile /etc/gdm/Xsession
[04:26] <slavik> dooglus: you mean ~/.xprofile?
[04:26] <rich_> im trying to run kxdocker and get this error can anyone shed some light on it?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30640/
[04:26] <dooglus> slavik: no
[04:26] <piglit> where is the mount point if your dig-cam gets auto mounted ?
[04:26] <kupesoft> when is new debian come?
[04:26] <mogydy> has anybody tried cario-dock?
[04:26] <dooglus> slavik: because if you type ~ in that grep command, it'll be replaced by your home directory's path, and it won't be found in the Xsession file
[04:26] <Pelo> morphish, try this site to test your connection,  just in case this is not a ubuntu problem and only a site one  http://www.abeltronica.com/PagRec/uk/01/
[04:26] <rich_> no i haven't
[04:26] <slavik> I know ...
[04:26] <Balachmar> Hi, what can I do to stop beagled-helper from eating all remaining resources? It makes my laptop very hot...
[04:27] <netpython> mike1o, run sudo apt-get clean  &&  sudo apt-get check
[04:27] <slavik> Balachmar: are you in dapper?
[04:27] <dooglus> blrakach: I fixed that by uninstalling mono.
[04:27] <gharz> anybody here who's using a webcam on his linux?
[04:27] <Garito> hi
[04:27] <gharz> my linux won't detect my webcam...
[04:27] <mogydy> have used a logitech before
[04:27] <slavik> gharz: is there a driver for your webcam?
[04:28] <mogydy> what is the make of ur cam?
[04:28] <Pelo> gharz,   try looking up your model in the forum
[04:28] <gharz> ahhh... ok.
[04:28] <dooglus> kupesoft: new debian come every day
[04:28] <netpython> logitech quickcam sphere
[04:28] <mogydy> i got a logitech messenger to work
[04:28] <mike1o> netpython, no errors nor warnings i'm retrying to upgrade again...
[04:28] <gharz> let me just check the model which is supported by ubuntu.
[04:28] <dfgas_> k i have the 6.06 live/install cd how do i get it to load live in 800x600?
[04:28] <mogydy> but it is hell
[04:28] <netpython> mike1o, k
[04:28] <mogydy> u have to add modules to ur kernel\
[04:28] <mogydy> that kind of shit
[04:29] <Balachmar> slavik: No I'm on Edgy why?
[04:29] <selinuxium> mogydy: Language! :)
[04:29] <slavik> Balachmar: I think the bug should've been fixed by now ...
[04:29] <mogydy> when u plug ur camera and do lsusb
[04:29] <Pelo> dfgas_,  you'd have to save your prefs somewhere and you can'T do that easily on livecd,  look it up in the forum  I know there is a way to do it where you save your prefs on a usbdrive or some such
[04:29] <mogydy> what do u see
[04:30] <Balachmar> slavik: Well, actually I have another pc which runs dapper, without this problem...
[04:30] <dfgas_> Pelo, i am just trying to install ubuntu again
[04:30] <Pelo> dfgas_,  tought it out,  install in 800x600 and make the change when you have installed
[04:31] <Balachmar> slavik: I have version 0.2.9-1ubuntu3
[04:31] <dfgas_> Pelo, nm you don't understand
[04:31] <morphyc2> I disabled ipv6 in Edgy 6.10 but I still get slow responses
[04:31] <mike1o> netpython, so far so good
[04:31] <sivik> morphyc2: slow response to the net or something else?
[04:32] <morphyc2> sivik: slow response to execute any application even to start nautilus
[04:32] <sivik> morphyc2: thats probably not caused by ipv6, how much ram and how big is your swap
[04:34] <morphyc2> sivik: I have 735 RAM and 512 swap, this problem happen if only I connected to another network with the old dns server and domain configuration untill I modify those info it works fine
[04:34] <Feonix762> Wooooott.. finally got airodump and aireplay to work for the first time in my life :)
[04:34] <sivik> morphyc2: first off, its not good to run less than 2x ram for the swap, and second, thats weird cause a dns server shouldn't cause your computer to run slow
[04:35] <Feonix762> Was always limited by my hardware so I finally sprung for a nice wireless card.. lovin it
[04:35] <slavik> Balachmar: I dunno what to say, check launchpad for the bug ...
[04:35] <slavik> Feonix762: is it a bcom card?
[04:35] <zsh> !airopump
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about airopump - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <Balachmar> slavik: ok, will do!
[04:35] <Feonix762> Nah, D-Link
[04:35] <meheren> how do i set wine to manage wine windows and not gnome
[04:36] <zsh> !aireplay
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about aireplay - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <savje> Hi guys! need some help :).. Quite new to linux and ubuntun, and I need a c/c++ compiler, found Anjuta and have installed it, but when I press "Compile and make" or "build" it says "Cannot execute command: 'make'", what to do :/?
[04:36] <morphyc2> sivik: I know but I was working on Ubuntu Dapper LTS with the current conf and I didn't face this problem, and I'm sure about that it is related to dns and domain
[04:36] <Feonix762> savje.. use gcc
[04:36] <zsh> !gcc
[04:36] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:37] <sivik> morphyc2: thats just weird that a dns server somewhere else can cause your system to slow down
[04:37] <savje> thanks Feonix762 and zsh!
[04:37] <Pelo> savje,  did you install the build essentials ?  search for that phrase in synaptic
[04:37] <coco__> gr
[04:38] <coco__> pouet
[04:38] <zsh> savje, np
[04:38] <coco__> coincoin
[04:38] <savje> Pelo: hmm, no I didnot, i'll look in to that
[04:38] <Pelo> savje,  essential for compiling from source
[04:39] <kalikiana> About Gaim, what can I do about 'reception errors' due to encoding issues?
[04:40] <aktiwers> hi
[04:41] <kalikiana> hi
[04:41] <aktiwers> Anyone know a good place where I can get help with Java Programming?
[04:41] <Pelo> aktiwers,  #java ?
[04:41] <aktiwers> yes
[04:42] <Pelo> i mean have tried joinging #java ?
[04:42] <Pelo> joinning
[04:42] <profoX`> okay i got a problem accessing my own site, but only my own site on this pc. all other sites work fine, and other people can visit my site too.. where should I go look first? :)
[04:42] <profoX`> i also cant access my ftp from this pc..
[04:42] <Pelo> zsh,  a decent cad software
[04:42] <floating> ndiswrapper installs drivers, says it ok, but wifi-card flash no lights. modprobing it and no lights. it shows up at eth1, but cant wake it up
[04:42] <loutrine> Pelo: I'm with ya on that... just waiting for Ventrilo...
[04:43] <aktiwers> nope.. but I was thinking an IRC channel maybe.. Im doing a big project here for my school and I really suck
[04:43] <Pelo> loutrine,  ventrilo ?
[04:43] <savje> Feonix762, zsh and Pelo: I don't know if it makes any differens but I will not compile packages, just a small program I've written myself...
[04:43] <loutrine> Pelo: Voice chat software, similar to teamspeak - mainly used for gaming
[04:44] <zsh> Pelo, hmm, i also dunno know of any, but you can try running ur windows cad apps on crossover office or wine
[04:44] <Feonix762> savje.. you really want to get gcc, seriously.. it's like a must have in linux
[04:44] <Pelo> savje,  it won'T hurt,   you might need to install the proper libraries,  look them up in synaptic
[04:44] <savje> hehe ok, I'm on it... thanks for the help!
[04:45] <aktiwers> nobody knows eh? Sorry Im a noob on this IRC thing.. never used it
[04:45] <Pelo> zsh,   I would  I was planning of running acad on wine but I misplaced my copy of acad r14 all I have left is 2006 and it won't install on wine
[04:45] <Feonix762> aktiwers.. /join #java
[04:46] <Vilandil> join #unbuntu-fr
[04:46] <aktiwers> Ok thanks!
[04:46] <Pelo> Vilandil,   tu doit metre un / avant la commande join
[04:47] <Vilandil> Pelo => Mince. Merci.^^
[04:47] <cellofellow> anyone know anything about gMPlayer with Quicktime?
[04:47] <coreyo> I set up xinerama on my i9xx card.  It'd displaying properly, and my mouse works properly (finally), but I can't drag a window more than halfway across my second monitor.  Is it nautilus?  Any suggestions?
[04:47] <kalikiana> cellofellow: as long as you have the codec, it should work
[04:48] <andax> cellofellow, check www.mplayerhq.hu for the codec section, and download the "all codecs" package
[04:48] <zsh> savje, googling.....
[04:48] <coreyo> er.. metacity, not nautilus
[04:48] <igcek> hello, how to enter in terminal withouth starting x-win first?
[04:48] <cellofellow> kalikiana: it plays, and pause works, but FF and RW not working.
[04:48] <andax> cellofellow, have you tried the -idx switch?
[04:48] <slop> anyone know a good console based song player that supports playlists of some kind?
[04:48] <savje> hmm, now "compile and make" works but with "build" it says (freely translated from swedish) "make: *** No goals where given and no makefile where found. Stoping"
[04:49] <cellofellow> andax: no what's that do?
[04:49] <kalikiana> cellofellow: may it be the sound server? i believe firefox uses oss by default
[04:49] <andax> cellofellow, tries to fix messed up files
[04:49] <cellofellow> not firefox Fast Forward oops
[04:50] <M0E^lnx> what does ubuntu use for boot manager?
[04:50] <andax> M0E^lnx, grub
[04:50] <cellofellow> grub
[04:50] <M0E^lnx> still trying to figure out how to boot this thing in cli mode (no GUI)
[04:50] <andax> and lilo is an apt-get away if you want that
[04:51] <UbuntuNewbie> does ubuntu support pci express?
[04:51] <Lachkater> of course it does ;D
[04:51] <UbuntuNewbie> kewl
[04:52] <UbuntuNewbie> downloading it now cant wait
[04:52] <Lachkater> h3h3
[04:52] <andax> M0E^lnx, type "sudo rm /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm" and remember you are responsible for your actions
[04:52] <M0E^lnx> andax: do you know any boot parameters that would boot the 6.10 CD into nothing but CLI mode?
[04:52] <netpython> and SLI?
[04:52] <UbuntuNewbie> a programmer showed me this and I think it is awesome
[04:52] <Lachkater> i hope you will enjoy ubuntu ^^
[04:52] <M0E^lnx> I can't type anything andax, because I don't see a thing
[04:52] <andax> M0E^lnx, then you need the "nosplash" boot parameter
[04:53] <Pelo> M0E^lnx,  you can boot from grub in cli mode, can't remember the exact name  but is it similar to secure or save
[04:53] <andax> exact name is "nosplash"
[04:53] <UbuntuNewbie> well with help like this around I know I will;o)
[04:53] <M0E^lnx> ok... i'll remember that
[04:54] <M0E^lnx> will it still try to load KDE at the end or not?
[04:54] <andax> yes it will
[04:54] <M0E^lnx> ok..
[04:54] <M0E^lnx> I don't need that
[04:54] <M0E^lnx> how do I keep it from loading KDE?
[04:54] <andax> i told you 2 minutes before
[04:54] <brum> boot to runlevel 3
[04:55] <andax> rm /etc/rc2.d/S13gdm
[04:55] <andax> but backup first
[04:55] <andax> and dont blame me
[04:55] <M0E^lnx> brum: I like that idea./... how do I do that?
[04:55] <M0E^lnx> andax: that's not possible for me..
[04:55] <M0E^lnx> my screens go blank
[04:55] <sivik> M0E^lnx: or uninstall kde
[04:55] <Rodietze> hey my gnome doesn't start anymore.... it loads its panels but no Icon nothing more and then unloads it again and so forth, the curious is that I haven't done anything any Idea?
[04:55] <M0E^lnx> sivik: it's not installed... i'm trying to install it
[04:55] <brum> M0E: edit grub, add a 3 at the end of the boot statement
[04:55] <sivik> M0E^lnx: did you install kdm
[04:56] <mailer> evince 0.6.1 on ubuntu 6.10 would not p[rint landscape layout properly. is this known?
[04:56] <M0E^lnx> no... ubuntu is not isntalled at all
[04:56] <sivik> M0E^lnx: so whats the problem?
[04:56] <M0E^lnx> I don't get any video on any of my vid adapters
[04:56] <andax> M0E^lnx, you have to take 2 steps. 1) in the grub menu use the edit function. Delete the word "splash" or add "nosplash". then you will see the boot process. then kde/gnome loads up, press ctrl+alt+f1 and you get the console
[04:57] <aktiwers> It seams kind of empty on #java ? Anyone knows another place I can get help with Java programming?
[04:57] <brum> M0E: if you want to change it permanately to runlevel 3, edit /etc/inittab and set default runlevel=3
[04:57] <Rodietze> dudes, I was working in gnome, then Quanta crashed and I had to reset the pc since then my gnome doesn't starts anymore it loads the panels without the icons and then unloads it and so forth and I'm wondering what can I do???
[04:57] <netpython> aktiwers, ubuntu-devel?
[04:57] <keithhhhh> what torrent clients do you guys use?
[04:57] <M0E^lnx> brum: I take that would be once it's installed right?
[04:57] <Pelo> aktiwers,   you have to be patient sometime ppl aren'T around for a while,  ask your quesiton and wait for the answer
[04:57] <andax> M0E^lnx, this is the answer for your question. The solution is to add vga=771 to your boot parameters and graphic will just magically work.
[04:58] <aktiwers> Ok thanks Pelo..   Netpython.. Ubuntu Devel?
[04:58] <mailer> where to discuss ubuntu printing?
[04:58] <andax> if my mind-reading skills are not lying :)
[04:58] <M0E^lnx> so it should look like nosplash vga=771?
[04:58] <brum> M0E: yes, i was under the impression it was already installed
[04:58] <andax> M0E^lnx, just add vga=771 to the end
[04:58] <M0E^lnx> ok...
[04:58] <netpython> aktiwers, yes all developers there mostly you might have a chance at ubuntu-devel
[04:58] <M0E^lnx> thanks all
[04:59] <andax> that's the solution, the answer is much more complex because the question was bad
[04:59] <m4cgyv3ry> php5-ming anyone? :)
[04:59] <Rodietze> HELP!! dudes, I was working in gnome, then Quanta crashed and I had to reset the pc since then my gnome doesn't starts anymore it loads the panels without the icons and then unloads it and so forth and I'm wondering what can I do??? is gnome so fragile?
[04:59] <aktiwers> Netphyton - Im a noob at IRC channels.. how do I go there? :) And thanks
[05:00] <Pelo> aktiwers,  try  /join #ubuntu-devel
[05:00] <meheren> how do i set wine to manage it's own windows instead of gone managing wine windows?
[05:00] <meheren> *gnome
[05:00] <andax> Rodietze, sounds bad.. do an fsck first, then reinstall gnome :(
[05:00] <aktiwers> Thanks alot! :)
[05:00] <netpython> aktiwers, "/join #ubuntu-devel" without quotes as said
[05:00] <Pelo> meheren, #winehq
[05:00] <kmaynard> Rodietze, i've had that happen. try deleting the .gnome and .gnome2 folders in your home directory (or moving them somewhere else) then restart your gnome session
[05:01] <Rodietze> andax:  thanks how do I reinstall gnome? apt-get install gnome?
[05:01] <meheren> Pelo, oh hehe didn't know it exsited :p
[05:01] <jrib> ubuntu-devel isn't for help with java programming :/
[05:01] <andax> Rodietze, do as kmaynard said that should be a better solution
[05:01] <Rodietze> kmaynard:  thanlks a lot!!
[05:01] <m4cgyv3ry> hey..where can i get php5-ming for ubuntu edgy ?
[05:01] <Rodietze> andax: OK thank u very much
[05:01] <kmaynard> Rodietze, try it and see...sometimes things get wonky after a crash or a bad power loss.
[05:01] <m4cgyv3ry> i dont have the sources on apt
[05:01] <mailer> Rodietze, also gnome irc is very responsive
[05:01] <wastrel> Heyo!
[05:02] <savje> plz guys, help me :(... now "compile and make" works but with "build" it says (freely translated from swedish) "make: *** No goals where given and no makefile where found. Stoping"
[05:02] <andax> Rodietze, even if it works, don't forget to run an fsck after a crash
[05:02] <jrib> aktiwers: ##java has over 200 users
[05:02] <wastrel> savje:  did you do  ./configure  first?
[05:02] <Rodietze> kmaynard, mailer andax ok I'll do that thanks I'll come back to report it for you
[05:02] <Rodietze> exit
[05:02] <Rodietze> oops :P
[05:02] <kmaynard> ha
[05:02] <savje> wastrel: no, how do I do that?
[05:02] <m4cgyv3ry> hey savje ..are you compiling the kernel?
[05:03] <savje> m4cgyv3ry: no
[05:03] <Lachkater> savje: just enter ./configure thats all
[05:03] <wastrel> savje:  in the source directory there might be a script called "configure"
[05:03] <wastrel> ./configure  will run that to generate a makefile  then you can use  make
[05:03] <wastrel> also !se
[05:03] <wastrel> !se
[05:03] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[05:03] <m4cgyv3ry> someone to help me..with php5-ming package?
[05:04] <Pelo> m4cgyv3ry,  did you look in synaptic ?
[05:04] <m4cgyv3ry> no..i didnt see there the package
[05:05] <m4cgyv3ry> where is it?
[05:05] <savje> wastrel: don't quite know what I should do with the ./configure bit...
[05:05] <Pelo> m4cgyv3ry,   make sure you have all the repo enable and search for php5
[05:06] <m4cgyv3ry> repo? what repo?
[05:06] <[h] tony|afk> moinmoin
[05:06] <wastrel> savje:  configure is a script, you run it from the command line.    ./configure   at the command line will run the configure script which is located in your current directory (the source directory)
[05:06] <Pelo> m4cgyv3ry,   repositories , for packages
[05:07] <Pelo> m4cgyv3ry,  look under system > admin   package source ( or something )
[05:07] <sigurd> #SpanskGutta
[05:07] <Pelo> m4cgyv3ry,  enable all packages,    then open synpatic package manager    system  > admin >  synaptic ,  and search for php5
[05:08] <dreamer> wow, lots o people here :)
[05:08] <m4cgyv3ry> ok
[05:08] <Pelo> not realy,  most are idle
[05:08] <dreamer> can anyone help me with this? : http://www.vrijkut.nl/index.php?sectie=pastebin&id=74ab68133abeae2b942df7531310ea48
[05:08] <dreamer> or can't you open that ?
[05:08] <he-man> where can I find a channel to discuss about ubuntu development for the next release?
[05:09] <tim90> hey hd0 is floppy right ?
[05:09] <por> Yo!! Man'
[05:09] <wastrel> dreamer:  it wants a password
[05:09] <jrib> dreamer: there's a password
[05:09] <kalikiana> dreamer: it asks for a login
[05:09] <netpython> dreamer, passwd plz
[05:09] <wastrel> anyone else ?
[05:09] <wastrel> heh
[05:10] <tim90> hd0  is floppy right ?
[05:10] <m4cgyv3ry> i dont see the package
[05:10] <por> Hello world'
[05:10] <por> sawasdee
[05:10] <heikki> tim90: fd0
[05:10] <m4cgyv3ry> Pelo, ..
[05:10] <tim90> thank you
[05:10] <m4cgyv3ry> Pelo, pehraps on unstable??
[05:10] <por> test
[05:10] <por> lol
[05:11] <Pelo> m4cgyv3ry,  what do you mean unstable ?
[05:11] <savje> wastrel: sorry for being a pain in the *, I found the configure.in file and when I in the terminal write "./configure.in" I get "access denied"...
[05:11] <tim90> just imagine im installing an OS yet in on the #ubuntu and using the internet .
[05:12] <wastrel> savje:  there's no "configure"
[05:12] <m4cgyv3ry> Pelo, on sources.apt i dont have unstable repo
[05:13] <savje> wastrel: huh? what do you mean?
[05:13] <wastrel> savje:  is there a README  or  INSTALL   usually that tells how to compile the program
[05:13] <Pelo> m4cgyv3ry,  did you look in synaptic for your package ?
[05:13] <Detox> nave ubuntu 6.06 on network ,,, router shows ip but will not show name,, how do i get the name of eh pc to show up in router?
[05:13] <wastrel> sorry ,  there's no "configure"    usually there's something just called   configure
[05:14] <Detox> host name is blfank in router
[05:14] <Detox> blank
[05:14] <m4cgyv3ry> Pelo, yah..dont appear..pehraps some repo are missing?
[05:14] <savje> wastrel: the problem is that I've written the program so I'm quite aware that there is not a manual ;)
[05:14] <Pelo> m4cgyv3ry,   check the repos in  system > admin > and check all those available
[05:15] <wastrel> wellsir
[05:15] <wastrel> you probably need to do the autoconf thing if your project has a configure.in
[05:15] <zhaohui> how to download decoder
[05:15] <zhaohui> how to download decoder
[05:15] <zhaohui> how to download decoder
[05:15] <zhaohui> how to download decoder
[05:15] <Lachkater> dont spam dude
[05:16] <wastrel> configure.in  is the input for autconf, which will generate the configure script which will create the makefile
[05:16] <zhaohui> how to download decoder
[05:16] <zhaohui> how to download decoder
[05:16] <zhaohui> how to download decoder
[05:16] <zhaohui> how to download decoder
[05:16] <wastrel> it's all very complicated
[05:16] <netpython> !codecs | zhaohui
[05:16] <ubotu> zhaohui: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:16] <dreamer> wastrel, jrib, kalila netpython: I'll post somewhere else
[05:16] <aoupi_> zhaohui: rm -rf ~ now shut the fuck up
[05:16] <wastrel> !paste | dreamer
[05:16] <ubotu> dreamer: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:16] <netpython> dreamer, k
[05:16] <wastrel> fyi :] 
[05:16] <aoupi_> !language | me
[05:16] <ubotu> me: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:16] <zhaohui> 3q
[05:18] <mrobbert> I recently lost a bunch of icons from my notification area, they're for many of the KDE apps that I run (amarok, akregator, kdewallet). I am running the Gnome desktop. Is there something I need to start up to get them back?
[05:18] <savje> wastrel: thanks for the help, but I can't get it to work :( the configure.in file seems to be configureded, some other idea?
[05:19] <dreamer> ok: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30644/
[05:19] <zhaohui> is this command in the root user?
[05:19] <wastrel> savje: dunno, i've never really played with autoconf myself  - ask in a developer type channel i guess :] 
[05:19] <wastrel> or roll your own makefile
[05:20] <savje> wastrel: don't know what or how rolling make files are, but somehow I wish I could...
[05:21] <wastrel> savje:  "roll your own" is an idiom for "create your own"  (reference is to cigarettes)   you'd have to look up makefile syntax... probably easier to get your autoconf working, but i don't know how to do that  :] 
[05:22] <m4cgyv3ry> Pelo, where is repo -> system -> admin  ?
[05:23] <Tjoels> i'm using the nvidia 9xxx driver and the resolution will only go to 800x600, how do i fix this? isn't it something with disabling a module?
[05:23] <Pelo> m4cgyv3ry,  I don'T know the name of it in english,   look in the menus under system  , under admin.   look for something like  repositories or source or package source or something like that
[05:23] <netpython> dreamer, what's the prob?,you can have only 4 primary partitions on one and the same HD
[05:23] <dreamer> netpython: I still need to allocate that 1gb of space to swap !
[05:24] <netpython> mkswap /dev/.. swapon /dev/..
[05:25] <netpython> fdisk /dev/.. press t and enter code 82 for swap
[05:25] <dreamer> that turnes the unallocated space to swap ?
[05:25] <m4cgyv3ry> Pelo, es portugues?
[05:26] <fdc> :P
[05:26] <Pelo> m4cgyv3ry,  french, don'T let the nick fool you
[05:26] <dreamer> netpython: that isn't a problem?
[05:26] <m4cgyv3ry> Pelo, ahah..lol
[05:26] <netpython> dreamer, example, mkswap /dev/sda2 would turn that partion into swap
[05:26] <Pelo> can any one give m4cgyv3ry   the proper  menu path to the repo  manager in gnome ?
[05:27] <grndslm> what's a good scanner to work with sane?
[05:27] <grndslm>  fairly cheap and good quality??  or best value, i guess...
[05:27] <dreamer> I don't know what the 'name' of the partition is. atm I already have 4 partitions+ that unallocated space (I hope you already got this)
[05:27] <m4cgyv3ry> Pelo, i am on synaptics..but dont see the package php5-ming
[05:28] <pradeep> hello, How do I install ubuntu from hard disk? (i have an iso)
[05:28] <Pelo> m4cgyv3ry,  try searching for just php5
[05:28] <Pelo> pradeep,   burn it to a cd and install from there
[05:28] <netpython> dreamer, fdisk /dev/hda and press p
[05:28] <Salah> hello. I have ubuntu 5.10 installed, is there any ways to upgrade it to version 6.10 without burning a cd with ubuntu iso?
[05:28] <pradeep> Pelo: My cd rom is dead
[05:28] <wastrel> not sure what ming is but  apt-cache search ming | grep php  gives  php5-uuid
[05:28] <netpython> dreamer, fdisk will show you what is what
[05:29] <wastrel> and php5-cli
[05:29] <Pelo> pradeep,  I am very sorry about that , try mounting the iso but I don't know how
[05:29] <sivik> how to i convert from wma to mp3 via command line
[05:29] <dreamer> netpython: not in there
[05:29] <m4cgyv3ry> Pelo, yeah..i tried seach just that
[05:29] <wastrel> m4cgyv3ry:  what's ming?
[05:29] <huntedgod> hey, a Q, how do i install a .bin file ive downloaded?
[05:29] <netpython> dreamer, at work?
[05:30] <dreamer> diskmanager sees it though, as Free Space thats not available
[05:30] <Pelo> Salah,   there is a way to do it over the net but it is very very slow and I haven'T found it reliable
[05:30] <netpython> huntedgod, sh *.bin
[05:30] <Pelo> Salah,  you can look at  ubuntu.com for instructions
[05:30] <huntedgod> nepthy: and do i need some directory to install it in, and if yes, where do i dump it, in OEM?
[05:30] <dreamer> damnit, I should turn of all these parts and joins :P
[05:30] <mrobbert> Anybody know what process I need to start to get KDE apps like amarok, akregator, and kdewallet to show up in my notification area? They used to be there, but disappeared after a crash.
[05:31] <UbuntuNewbie> i downloaded ubuntu but it says if i boot to it it wont affect my system....can it be ibstalled from the same cd?
[05:31] <netpython> huntedgod, and if that doesn't work right away chmod +x first
[05:31] <Pelo> m4cgyv3ry,  then I don'T know what to tell you , try searching the net for a source code file and install it manualy http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/ http://www.linux.org/
[05:31] <m4cgyv3ry> i just wanted the ming working on php5
[05:31] <wastrel> you don't need +x if you're using sh to call the script
[05:31] <Arepie> what mp3 player is the besT?
[05:31] <wastrel> but you may need sudo depending on how the installer is written
[05:32] <straterra> hi..what does Ubuntu stand for?
[05:32] <robw810> straterra: I don't know, you tell me
[05:32] <huntedgod> mmm... and to do this from the oem dir?
[05:32] <netpython> wastrel, correct
[05:32] <iter> freedom
[05:32] <Lachkater> UbuntuNewbie: yes it can
[05:32] <m4cgyv3ry> Pelo, i installed from the sources..that is not working..it is recognized but dont function well :(
[05:32] <iter> oh wait, that uhuru ;)
[05:32] <Lachkater> you should read the install manual from the website
[05:32] <straterra> robw810: Isn't it African for "Slackware is too hard for me?"
[05:32] <Pelo> m4cgyv3ry,  that's the best I can do for you, maybe someone esle
[05:32] <robw810> :)
[05:32] <straterra> Or..is it "I'm not bright enough to REALLY learn how Linux works"
[05:33] <straterra> It's one of those, right?
[05:33] <iter> straterra: hater
[05:33] <UbuntuNewbie> have a link Lachkater?
[05:33] <m4cgyv3ry> Pelo, ok..thanks franciu! =)
[05:33] <wastrel> it's african for "i like cookies"
[05:33] <netpython> Lachkater, Nope,It's African for i rather drive than lay underneath the car :-)
[05:33] <iter> I have a reasonable idea how gnu/linux works and I still love ubuntu
[05:33] <straterra> Oh, ok
[05:33] <straterra> Cookies
[05:33] <wastrel> and i'm talking about food cookies not data cookies
[05:33] <jvolkman> pfft
[05:34] <straterra> so..why use ubuntu? Seems to be nothing more than a dumbed down Debian
[05:34] <iter> haha you might say that
[05:34] <jvolkman> I used Slackware, Debian and Gentoo for 8 years before switching to Ubuntu
[05:34] <wastrel> it releases more regularly than debian
[05:34] <iter> or .. you might say it's a cleaned up debian
[05:34] <PecisDarbs> hi crowd, does 6.06.1 release contains xen enabled kernel images?
[05:34] <huntedgod> oh another question, how do i give "execute permission to the "current user" ?
[05:34] <iter> with a REAL INSTALLER
[05:34] <PecisDarbs> or it is just Edgy priviledge?
[05:34] <Arepie> what mp3 player is the best? Listen <-- i have problem with that.. always hang..
[05:34] <straterra> Installer?
[05:34] <Pelo> straterra,  some of us need it to be dumb down,  we're still recovering from win9x
[05:34] <straterra> I use tar xzvf to intsall
[05:34] <dreamer> netpython' or anyone: an idea yet ?
[05:34] <straterra> install^
[05:34] <straterra> Pelo: aaah, I see
[05:34] <netpython> straterra, far less dependency issues
[05:34] <iter> straterra: that would put you in the .1% then
[05:35] <h3sp4wn> iter: personally I would say its a slowed down debian with loads of cruft
[05:35] <wastrel> huntedgod:  chmod u+x filename
[05:35] <robw810> I'm not sure I buy the argument about the installer, though - I mean, you only install it once
[05:35] <iter> h3sp4wn: let's see some stats to back up that it's slower
[05:35] <huntedgod> u=userbane i guess?
[05:35] <straterra> robw810: true
[05:35] <straterra> netpython: only way to get rid of dependency headaches is to get a package manager that doesn't touch dependencies
[05:35] <robw810> I don't think I'd sit my wife in front of a new Slackware installation and say "have fun" either though :)
[05:35] <m4cgyv3ry> I have slackware on my servers..but for day by day work..i use ubuntu
[05:36] <huntedgod> as always, you guys rocks, thanks.
[05:36] <h3sp4wn> iter: Just try the two - its noticable
[05:36] <Lachkater> @UbuntuNewb: i thing its somewhere on http://help.ubuntu.com/
[05:36] <iter> h3sp4wn: mmm I have both right here
[05:36] <netpython> straterra, whatever gets the job done:-)
[05:36] <blackskad> #usdmtv
[05:36] <straterra> netpython: yup
[05:36] <iter> h3sp4wn: don't see a noticable difference
[05:36] <coreyo> I got xinerama set up with 2 screens on my i9xx card, however, metacity won't let me drag my windows more than halfway across my second monitor.  Any ideas?
[05:36] <straterra> Damnitt...trolling in here isn't nearly as fun as trolling #genpoo
[05:36] <wastrel> sorry :] 
[05:37] <straterra> You people are too...nice.. :D
[05:37] <iter> less linux-ricers here
[05:37] <wastrel> i ran slack for a while but got tired of chasing all over the net for libraries when i wanted to install something :] 
[05:37] <iter> wastrel: word to the mother
[05:37] <iter> apt-get ALONE is enough to use debian or debian based distros
[05:38] <h3sp4wn> iter: Probably more noticable on older hardware (my laptop is unusable with dapper) but fine with etch or sid
[05:38] <fryfrog> can anyone tell me how the heck I can add more workspaces in Ubuntu, the default seems to be 4 and I'd like to try 6 or 8 or so
[05:38] <tapeworm> I can't mount my second hard disk correctly. And it doesn't mount on boot, so I always have to mount it manually, and when I do it isn't writeable... How can I fix this?
[05:38] <n0dl|laptop> where can i find a list of foreign apt servers?
[05:38] <wastrel> fryfrog:  right-click the workspace applet and choose prefs
[05:38] <miffe_> anyone know why wakeonlan doens't work on edgy?
[05:39] <fryfrog> wastrel: In there, it is set to "1" row and "1" workspace, but I have 4 :/
[05:39] <straterra> OH!
[05:39] <straterra> That is another thing I have a question about
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> tapeworm: set the permissions and ownership correctly (with sudo)
[05:39] <fryfrog> wastrel: changing it to 6 has no affect :/
[05:39] <wastrel> fryfrog:   i assume this isn't gnome ?
[05:39] <straterra> Why the fuhell are there so many different names for ubuntu?
[05:39] <Ash-Fox> Has there been any recent conversation on the mailing lists abut the recently opensourced sun java/
[05:39] <iter> there is a name for each version?
[05:39] <fryfrog> wastrel: well, its default with xgl running, would that do it?
[05:39] <iter> and there are different versions?
[05:40] <dreamer> can anyone else help me with this swap-issue? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30644/
[05:40] <Kim^J> Ash-Fox: Diffirent DEs.
[05:40] <mrobbert> Anybody run KDE apps under Gnome?
[05:40] <wastrel> i dunno from xgl , maybe the kind folks on #ubuntu-xgl can help...
[05:40] <wastrel> mrobbert:  on occasion.
[05:40] <Ash-Fox> mrobbert, yes.
[05:40] <huntedgod> mrobbert: yes. works fine
[05:40] <mrobbert> Do you get icons for some of them in the notification area?
[05:40] <fryfrog> wastrel: worth a try, I assumed xgl runs *over* gnome cause it is still gnome for sure
[05:40] <tapeworm> h3sp4wn, isn't there something i can do in the fstab, so it mounts on boot with read/write rights?
[05:40] <sproingie> heh, corny: http://xkcd.com/comics/sandwich.png
[05:40] <Ash-Fox> Kim^J, well Java doesn't really have it's own DE :P Besides that, I'm just curious with the GPL licensing.
[05:41] <h3sp4wn> tapeworm: There is but I wouldn't recommend it as the cleanest way to do it
[05:41] <Kim^J> Ash-Fox: Didn't you talk about Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu?
[05:41] <h3sp4wn> tapeworm: or is it fat or ntfs ?
[05:42] <huntedgod> wast/natphy: thanks for all the help. works gr8.
[05:42] <tapeworm> h3sp4wn, the thing is i formated it and now it's an ext3
[05:42] <Ash-Fox> Kim^J, nope, only spoke of Java.
[05:42] <n0dl|laptop> where can i find a list of foreign aptget servers?
[05:42] <h3sp4wn> tapeworm: So you don't need any different options to fstab
[05:43] <Kim^J> Ash-Fox: Oh sorry.. It was for straterra .
[05:43] <wastrel> mrobbert:  not the ones i use, at least not that i've noticed
[05:43] <straterra> Kim^J: ?
[05:43] <Kim^J> straterra: There are different DEs for Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu.
[05:43] <dreamer> so .. can anyone else help me with this swap-issue? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30644/
[05:43] <tapeworm> h3sp4wn, alright... i'll try to find the problem then
[05:43] <straterra> so..there is a spinoff on the distro because of wm/de?
[05:43] <mrobbert> I can't get an amarok window because its icon is missing from my notification area.
[05:43] <Kim^J> straterra: Yep.
[05:44] <Kim^J> mrobbert: Just restart Amarok.
[05:44] <Pelo> mrobbert, make a launcher  and move it to the taskbar
[05:44] <straterra> Kim^J: I assume they all have the same package tree though?
[05:44] <h3sp4wn> tapeworm: You can just add a line to it in fstab (man fstab) you don't have to use UUID= you can use LABEL= (presuming you use edgy)
[05:44] <Kim^J> straterra: Yep.
[05:44] <Kim^J> Just the preinstalled that differs.
[05:45] <mrobbert> Pelo: I have it on my menu, and it is in the process table, but nothing in the GUI
[05:45] <miffe_> dreamer: you can only have 3 primary partition if you want an extended, so if you have 4 primary you need to remove one and create a new extednded instead
[05:45] <Pelo> mrobbert,  try killing it in the system monitor and restarting it
[05:46] <Pelo> mrobbert,  is it possible that you just donT' have a notification area in your task bar anymore ?
[05:46] <Kim^J> dreamer: You should do like this: 1GB swap primary. then the rest for logical ones.
[05:46] <h3sp4wn> Ash-Fox: I still have an old java station (I suppose that is (was ?) the java DE but it flopped)
[05:46] <Ash-Fox> h3sp4wn, no idea.
[05:46] <dreamer> miffe_: yeah that's what I thougt, but then I'i have to remove ubuntu :/
[05:46] <miffe_> dreamer: parted might be able to convert it
[05:47] <dreamer> Kim^J: I can't touch the windows and media and personal ones
[05:47] <miffe_> dreamer: or gparted if you prefer a GUI
[05:47] <dreamer> they are ntfs and have data
[05:47] <n0dl|laptop> does anyone know of any foreign apt servers
[05:47] <markl_> whoever changed the default sounds for Gaim in Edge is a beautiful genius
[05:47] <mrobbert> Pelo: I killed all procs that had the word amarok and restarted and still nothing.
[05:47] <Kim^J> dreamer: Hm... Make a logical and then have a swap there?
[05:47] <markl_> s/Edge/Edgy/
[05:47] <Pelo> mrobbert,  is it possible that you just donT' have a notification area in your task bar anymore ?
[05:48] <mrobbert> Pelo: I also  removed my notification area and added it back in, still nothing
[05:48] <h3sp4wn> n0dl|laptop: countrycode.archive.ubuntu.com (i.e gb.archive.ubuntu.com de.archive.ubuntu.com etc)
[05:48] <timo90> Hey how do you save a file in the terminal , i done sudo nano /usr/bin/startxgl.sh and pasted some stuff , i need to save them now
[05:48] <Pelo> mrobbert, ,  reinstall amorak
[05:48] <n0dl|laptop> h3sp4wn: thanks
[05:48] <dreamer> Kim^J: you mean: make extended with 2 logical: 1 OS and 1 swap
[05:48] <Kim^J> timo90: ctrl+o
[05:48] <mrobbert> Pelo: What is this, Windows?
[05:48] <dreamer> just no idea how to do that :S
[05:48] <Kim^J> dreamer: Yeah.
[05:48] <Kim^J> dreamer: gparted, qtparted
[05:49] <dreamer> or make the ubuntu-partition into an extended :S
[05:49] <Pelo> mrobbert, use synaptic , just select reinstall package,   I didn'T say uninstall it
[05:49] <h3sp4wn> n0dl|laptop: use - host gb.archive.ubuntu.com (to check whether it exists first)
[05:49] <Kim^J> dreamer: There can only be four logical/primary partions. But there can be many moore extended partions inside the logical partions.
[05:50] <timo90> Kim^J: thanks that worked
[05:50] <Kim^J> timo90: =)
[05:50] <dreamer> Kim^J: I can't make an extended
[05:51] <Kim^J> dreamer: Huh?
[05:51] <Kim^J> You have to make one logical and give all remaining space to that. Then you create extended ones inside that one.
[05:51] <dreamer> I can't do anything to /dev/hda2 aka the ubuntu-partition
[05:51] <dreamer> Kim^J: I have remove ubuntu and the unallocated
[05:51] <dreamer> +to
[05:51] <Kim^J> dreamer: Are you in Ubuntu right now?
[05:52] <Kim^J> Are you in WIndows?
[05:52] <dreamer> this is my server
[05:52] <dreamer> thu desktop is in ubuntu right now
[05:52] <Kim^J> oh ok.
[05:52] <JuJuBee> I am building a server for my classroom.  We have about 8 computers.  I am considering doing a netboot sometime in the near future.  What hardware should I include? (Mobo, processor, ram, HD space)?
[05:52] <Kim^J> maybe you should download gparted and then work from there?
[05:52] <Kim^J> JuJuBee: At least 16 dualcores.
[05:53] <mrobbert> Pelo: No help with the reinstall.
[05:53] <dreamer> I _have_ gparted, I allready said that :P
[05:53] <Kim^J> and 64GB ram.
[05:53] <Kim^J> dreamer: No no. The LIVE CD.
[05:53] <dreamer> aah, ok ..
[05:53] <dreamer> hmm, I have knoppix somewhere ..
[05:53] <incorrect> what do i need to install to get totem to play dvds ?
[05:53] <Kim^J> No no. The Gparted Live CD.
[05:54] <dreamer> beh .. hmm
[05:54] <Kim^J> incorrect: gstreamer-1.0-plugins-ugly or something like that.
[05:54] <Kim^J> incorrect: More a KDE guuy
[05:54] <h3sp4wn> JuJuBee: You want to run everything on the server with the linux terminal server project ?
[05:54] <netpython> !codecs | incorrect
[05:54] <ubotu> incorrect: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[05:54] <miffe_> dreamer: the ubuntu live cd also has gparted
[05:54] <JuJuBee> h3sp4wn : I am considering it, yes.
[05:54] <dreamer> hmm, the new install[cd has live-function ..
[05:54] <mrobbert> Pelo: I tried running from the command line and I get - X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 168
[05:54] <incorrect> ty
[05:55] <dreamer> but, I have a cd-rw somewhere . I'll put gparted on that
[05:55] <mrobbert> Pelo: I get that twice and then nothing. Same error when I run akregator
[05:55] <h3sp4wn> JuJuBee: For just basic applications (openoffice etc ?)
[05:56] <JuJuBee> Yes.  Possibly a wine app or 2
[05:56] <lando>                                                                                                m
[05:57] <miffe_> anyone know why wakeonlan doens't work on edgy?
[05:57] <h3sp4wn> JuJuBee: Ram is more important than processor power - and you need fast disks
[05:57] <mumrah> i just upgraded to 6.10, and i can no longer read or write cds
[05:58] <mumrah> any ideas?
[05:59] <JuJuBee> h3sp4wn : how fast?
[05:59] <h3sp4wn> JuJuBee: 4gb ram (with space for more)  , 15000 scsi disks , a dual core opteron (with a socket for another) should easily handle 20 clients - You want to run X locally (not using nfs root) running it from a ram disk
[05:59] <DanglyBits> anyone have a broadcom 4306 wireless running on edgy?
[06:00] <h3sp4wn> JuJuBee: Don't consider anything other than scsi
[06:00] <JuJuBee> OK.
[06:00] <mrobbert> Pelo: I just found the error in ubuntu forums and they suggest commenting out wacom devices in xorg.conf. I'm going to try that. Thanks for you help so far.
[06:00] <JuJuBee> Thanks.
[06:00] <sancho___> i'm receiving 'BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>' errors upon apt-get update now on my edgy upgrade box; have already set my apt sources to just archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com per suggestion; any ideas? http://pastebin.com/819797
[06:00] <h3sp4wn> JuJuBee: Sun's opteron servers are very well made and reasonably priced
[06:01] <JuJuBee> I will take a look...
[06:01] <incorrect> i take it version 6.10 was not the best thing to install?
[06:01] <boink> depends
[06:01] <boink> 6.10 is the latest, sure
[06:01] <boink> but dapper is a LTS release
[06:01] <alexander> hey all
[06:02] <incorrect> seems like 6.10 is missing some packages
[06:02] <boink> like what?
[06:02] <h3sp4wn> incorrect: user-mode-linux by any chance (I noticed that) :/
[06:02] <boink> it depends on how your /etc/apt/sources.list is set up
[06:02] <incorrect> the gstreamer ugly plugins
[06:02] <LimonJalisciense> i upgraded 6.10 and im having problems with my networkl
[06:02] <netpython> !universe
[06:02] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[06:03] <alexander> i got a question: is there a way to bond 2 NIC in ubuntu?
[06:03] <boink> which gstreamer plugin?
[06:03] <boink> when I do an apt-cache search, I get a lot
[06:03] <incorrect> boink: ugly
[06:03] <h3sp4wn> alexander: You can use the bonding modules which are in the kernel anyway
[06:03] <boink> gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly - GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set
[06:03] <miffe_> incorrect: gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly is in universe
[06:03] <boink> I got that one
[06:04] <h3sp4wn> alexander: switch needs to support vlan trunking for some modes
[06:04] <boink> again, it depends on how your /etc/apt/sources.list is set up
[06:04] <incorrect> i thought i had enabled universe
[06:04] <incorrect> i just thought i had to uncomment them
[06:04] <boink> check again .. then update the list and do an apt-cache search
[06:04] <hussam> anyone here good with iptables?
[06:04] <alexander> h3sp4wn, i am kinda new to all of this, you know a place were i can read up on this?
[06:05] <Tjoels> hey, when i use the nv driver, i can get a resolution of 1280x1024 @ 75 Hz, but when i use the nvidia driver it can only use 800x600 @ 50 Hz
[06:05] <h3sp4wn> alexander: linux/Documentation/networking/bonding.txt (in the kernel source or the kernel documentation package)
[06:06] <incorrect> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe <-  i've uncommented that
[06:06] <sivik> Tjoels: that probably means your stuff isn't installed correctly
[06:06] <sivik> Tjoels: have you installing the linux-restricted
[06:06] <boink> did you do an apt-get update?
[06:06] <netpython> incorrect, example /etc/sources.list http://pastebin.com/819804
[06:06] <sivik> sudo apt-get upgrade
[06:06] <hussam> for example, what do I do if I need to add a rule for a interface where the ip is dynamic. do I have to change the rules every time the IP changes?
[06:06] <h3sp4wn> alexander: maybe that is a bit complicated (and has some things that are not relevant to you)
[06:06] <incorrect> sorry
[06:06] <Tjoels> sivik: yeah
[06:06] <sivik> wrong windows
[06:06] <Lattyware> Hey all, Could anyone help me with the sudden loss of my second monitor (via twinview) and the inability to play video via xv.
[06:07] <sivik> Tjoels: did you restart x
[06:07] <Tjoels> sivik: well, i'm using the 9xxx nvidia driver
[06:07] <boink> whenever you update your sources.list, you need to do an apt-get update
[06:07] <Tjoels> sikik: yeah
[06:07] <Lattyware> Is there somthing up with the official nvidia driver?
[06:07] <sivik> Tjoels: so
[06:07] <sivik> Tjoels: not sure
[06:07] <sivik> Lattyware: multiverse repo
[06:07] <sivik> !nvidia
[06:07] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:07] <incorrect> netpython: mine looks like that now
[06:07] <alexander> h3sp4wn, ty, i am taking a look at it right now.
[06:07] <screechingcat> Lattyware: there;s a new one out
[06:07] <netpython> incorrect, good :-)
[06:07] <Tjoels> sikik: i am trying to install beryl, so using the new driver
[06:07] <Lattyware> sivik: That wasn't what I was asking.
[06:07] <sivik> Tjoels: not sure with beryl
[06:07] <m4cgyv3ry> what is php5-uuid ?
[06:08] <sivik> Lattyware: what was your question
[06:08] <incorrect> saying that all that was different was the url's
[06:08] <screechingcat> Lattyware: everyones raving about some new feature.
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[06:08] <sivik> Lattyware: i must have misunderstood what you asked
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[06:08] <Lattyware> sivik: Whethter there is a bug in it that stopped twinview.
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[06:08] <Lattyware> !ops
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[06:08] <sivik> Lattyware: not sure
[06:09] <Lattyware> screechingcat: Do you mean the BETA? Because there was AXGL support in that
[06:09] <Lattyware> Which presumably is the feature.
[06:09] <Zaggynl> !services
[06:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about services - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:09] <timo90> !artwork
[06:09] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[06:09] <Zaggynl> How do I list running services?
[06:09] <screechingcat> Lattyware: im sorry. i dont know much about it. i dont have an nvidia and thefore dont care
[06:09] <miffe_> Zaggynl: ps aux
[06:09] <Zaggynl> gamesurge glines me because I am running a proxy :/
[06:10] <jbroome> pwnt
[06:10] <Lattyware> heh, ok, thanks for the responce anyway.
[06:10] <h3sp4wn> Zaggynl: services on a specific port ?
[06:10] <Zaggynl> nah
[06:10] <screechingcat> Lattyware: just seach in digg.com though. im pretty sure it was fronte-paged
[06:10] <Tjoels> what is it the "dri" module does?
[06:10] <Lattyware> ok, thanks
[06:11] <miffe_> anyone know why wakeonlan doens't work on edgy?
[06:11] <DanglyBits> need help with this??  anyone have a broadcom 4306 wireless running on edgy?
[06:12] <Crankymonky> What version of fluxbox is in the edgy repo's?
[06:12] <simon__> Hi
[06:12] <deadlyallance077> does anybody hear know much about genome-dock ?
[06:12] <h3sp4wn> !info fluxbox edgy
[06:12] <ubotu> fluxbox: Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.15.1+1.0rc2-1 (edgy), package size 899 kB, installed size 2888 kB
[06:12] <Crankymonky> Thanks
[06:12] <screechingcat> deadlyallance077: whats genome-dock ?
[06:12] <deadlyallance077> sorry gnome-dock
[06:12] <deadlyallance077> its a mac osx like dock for gnome
[06:13] <rrodri> jjjjjj
[06:13] <h3sp4wn> Zaggynl: So you need to know what services you have running with ports which could be acting as a proxy ?
[06:13] <screechingcat> deadlyallance077: i use kicker for my dock
[06:13] <rrodri> ellow
[06:13] <deadlyallance077> kicker ?
[06:13] <screechingcat> deadlyallance077: its KDE. but it works brilliantly
[06:13] <Zaggynl> h3sp4wn, exactly
[06:13] <h3sp4wn> deadlyallance077: engage is a similar dock
[06:13] <raghu206> is there a editor which opens faster than gedit ?
[06:13] <Zaggynl> I shut down Tor, but gamesurge still glines me
[06:13] <screechingcat> deadlyallance077: kicker is the kde equivalent of gnome-panel
[06:13] <deadlyallance077> do they do the bouncy thing and auto hide ?
[06:13] <dreamer> Kim^J: gparted won't make /dev/hda2 into extended
[06:14] <screechingcat> deadlyallance077: no bounce but autohide yes
[06:14] <miffe_> dreamer: then you probably have to delete it and create a new extended partition
[06:14] <h3sp4wn> Zaggynl: sudo netstat -lpAinet
[06:14] <deadlyallance077> see gnome dock is omost exactly like the osx dock
[06:15] <Zaggynl> h3sp4wn, thanks
[06:15] <screechingcat> !gnome-dock
[06:15] <ubotu> gnome-dock is a MacOS X -like dock for the gnome desktop, see www.gnome-dock.org
[06:15] <Intangir> does anyone know of a text based gnutella client?
[06:15] <dreamer> miffe_: aka reinstall ubuntu :/
[06:15] <DanglyBits> anyone with broadcom 4306 wireless experience
[06:15] <screechingcat> deadlyallance077: ^^^^^
[06:15] <deadlyallance077> i am in love with the osx gui and all i have to compleat it in ubuntu is the dock
[06:15] <h3sp4wn> Intangir: I have used gnut before but I am not sure whether it is still mainted
[06:15] <h3sp4wn> deadlyallance077: If you want os x why not just buy a mac ?
[06:16] <miffe_> dreamer: you could tar it all up, recreate the partition and unpack the tar again
[06:16] <screechingcat> deadlyallance077: gnome-dock is a MacOS X -like dock for the gnome desktop, see www.gnome-dock.org
[06:16] <deadlyallance077> because i am running a mini itx box
[06:16] <dreamer> miffe_: hahah .. hmm
[06:16] <deadlyallance077> and i cant get osx to run on a via c3 chip
[06:16] <h3sp4wn> buy a mac mini - problem solved
[06:17] <screechingcat> deadlyallance077: they're pretty cheap these days
[06:17] <screechingcat> deadlyallance077: and they intoduced intel core2cuo today
[06:17] <deadlyallance077> there not as small of footprint as my mini itx and dont work well in a car and i need linux for my pftp
[06:17] <h3sp4wn> Almost anything you can run on linux you can run on mac os x
[06:18] <mailer> Hi, will report this to -devel and -bugs channels ... cannot see bug files with launchpad --- evince 0.6.1 shipped with edgy wont print in landscape
[06:18] <sudo|fader> anybody know were lynx by default downloads files to?
[06:18] <screechingcat> deadlyallance077: you can always install linux on a mac machine
[06:18] <miffe_> sudo|fader: to the current directory
[06:18] <screechingcat> deadlyallance077: i tri-lboot ubuntu and os x and windows on my macbook pro
[06:18] <deadlyallance077> but it still wont work well in my car! its for a car pc
[06:18] <sudo|fader> miffe_ meaning from the dir from were lynx was startet?
[06:19] <miffe_> sudo|fader: yeah
[06:19] <screechingcat> deadlyallance077: gnome-dock.org
[06:19] <sudo|fader> it dosent!
[06:19] <deadlyallance077> built in to a breefcase with a wireless card and a 3 watt cell booster so that i can get the net in the oil field
[06:20] <deadlyallance077> it plugs in to a 7" touchscreen in myt dash
[06:20] <deadlyallance077> or the 21" widescreen in the top oof the case
[06:21] <raghu206> can we install gnome-dock with out installing XGL
[06:21] <deadlyallance077> yes i think so but i am not sure
[06:21] <deadlyallance077> i am haveinhg some troubles getting it started
[06:21] <miffe_> sudo|fader: it does for me, by default. but you can chage it after the download is completed
[06:22] <PetriP-TNT> any gstreamerplugins so i can get m4as working
[06:22] <PetriP-TNT> acc? mp4?
[06:22] <deadlyallance077> petrip-tnt pm me and i will tell you
[06:22] <screechingcat> deadlyallance077: y not use kiba-dock
[06:22] <deadlyallance077> never herd of it do you have a url
[06:23] <screechingcat> deadlyallance077: !kiba-dock
[06:23] <gpfmag> chuapamel
[06:23] <PetriP-TNT> or for wma for that matter
[06:23] <PetriP-TNT> i want to usemy ipod fully with rhythmbox
[06:24] <gpfmag> ddfdfjkkk
[06:24] <mailer> evince irc channel lets us  know the issue (possibly others) fixed in source and there was talk of a new release soon
[06:24] <screechingcat> PetriP-TNT: get rid of rhythmbox. amarok is way better
[06:24] <PetriP-TNT> nah
[06:25] <miffe_> PetriP-TNT: you'll need gstreamer-ffmpeg for mp4 and one of the wmas, and gstreamer-pitfdll + w32codecs for the other wma
[06:25] <screechingcat> PetriP-TNT: when u dont have a codec, amarok pops up a dailog telling you the required codec and will open synatpic to install it for you
[06:25] <PetriP-TNT> i got ffmpeg installed, didnt work
[06:26] <deadlyallance077> petri-tnt i am going to get kicked for this but look into automatix
[06:26] <PetriP-TNT> :>
[06:27] <davvs> how can i run 2 x severs? 1 on the TV with only a gamepad as input and 1 on the computer-monitor using keyboard and mouse as input?
[06:27] <PetriP-TNT> and other thing, why wont mozilla-vlc work?
[06:27] <otacon22_> Anyone know a packet to make a ubuntu pc to a firewall dedicated pc, with a http interface simle for configure?
[06:27] <seth__> davvs, you can run two servers, one on each device
[06:27] <davvs> how do i do it seth__ ?
[06:27] <miffe_> anyone know why wake-on-lan doens't work on edgy?
[06:28] <seth__> I don't know whether you can restrict an input device to only one of the screens, though
[06:28] <h3sp4wn> otacon22_: Why does it need to be ubuntu ? If ts just for a firewall there are plenty of better firewall distro's
[06:28] <deadlyallance077> Does it sit on the couch all day long?  Does it procrastinate doing the dishes?  Does it beg on the street for change?  Please be specific!  Define 'it' and what it isn't doing.  Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message".
[06:28] <seth__> davvs, you define separate Screen sections in xorg.conf.  If's very similar to what you do for dual monitors.  I had my dual monitors set up as two separate servers, and then I merged them into one.  Let me see if I still have the config that made them separate
[06:28] <otacon22_> h3sp4wn, for example?
[06:29] <seth__> davvs, you should be able to find examples of doing this on the X site, it's quite common.
[06:29] <otacon22_> I don't know anyone
[06:29] <otacon22_> (good)
[06:29] <davvs> seth__,  the X site?
[06:29] <miffe_> i'm trying to wake a box. it used to work when it was running dapper, but when i upgraded to edgy i can't wake it anymore. i haven't changed any settings related to wol
[06:30] <h3sp4wn> otacon22_: http://m0n0.ch/wall/
[06:31] <snowshoefox> !apt-get
[06:31] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[06:31] <socres> hello
[06:32] <socres> need xchat on screen display
[06:32] <socres> anyone can tell me where to find?
[06:32] <h3sp4wn> socres: screen is only for console applications
[06:32] <PetriP-TNT> oh yeah, one more question: whats a good program for unpacking rars? unrar didnt work
[06:32] <h3sp4wn> PetriP-TNT: unrar-nonfree
[06:33] <h3sp4wn> PetriP-TNT: Or just download it from rarlab
[06:33] <PetriP-TNT> k
[06:33] <socres> there is a plugin called xchatosd but i cant compile it
[06:34] <davvs> seth__, what is "the X site"? and where is it? :-)
[06:35] <snowshoefox> gar
[06:36] <Lippman> anyone can give me some advice on using Xen in ubuntu? I find xen now is included in Edgy, but i'm not sure which package should be installed.
[06:38] <otacon22_> h3sp4wn, it isn't a good firewall
[06:38] <por> "Hello World" ......Test
[06:38] <otacon22_> i have download and tryed it now
[06:39] <snoops> Hi, I'm going to format my dual booting hdd, reinstall windows, then install edgy (currently using dapper).. Is there anything I need to backup other than my home directory? I've got a mysql db, so I guess I need to dump that
[06:40] <seth__> snoops, why not just upgrade, and preserve your data in the norma way?
[06:40] <mnepton> snoops: MySQL stuff is in /var/lib/mysql
[06:40] <mrmist> Hi all
[06:41] <shwag> ok...what is the problem.  sudo: unable to lookup dev via gethostbyname()
[06:41] <mrmist> Any way to make only minimized windows appear in the "window-list" panel in ubuntu ??
[06:41] <snoops> well, I heard there were quite a few problems - regarding people using nvidia, xgl, compiz then upgrading to edgy.. A clean install feels better to me anyway, since the new nvidia driver implements aiglx, so I can use that with beryl
[06:41] <prestosd> does anyone know how to export theme files?
[06:42] <snoops> plus, my windows install has a virus, and when putting the xp cd in to reinstall, it can't recognise the partitions properly on that hdd
[06:42] <snoops> thanks mnepton
[06:42] <prestosd> does anyone know if its possible to EXPORT theme files???
[06:42] <seth__> snoops, when I do something like that, I rename all my directories, and reinstall but don't recreate the file systems.  then I have _all_ my data.  after a few weeks, when I know I've copied everything I might need, then I erase the old stuff.
[06:43] <salome> 1. what kind of theme files 2, export them to what
[06:43] <prestosd> all kinds
[06:43] <prestosd> export them to tar/gz
[06:43] <salome> you realize there are thousands of kinds
[06:43] <prestosd> no no no
[06:43] <seth__> prestosd, that's not exporting.  that's just copying
[06:43] <prestosd> I want to export the ones I have right now, so I can import them into my other partition of ubuntu
[06:43] <salome> tar -zcvf theme.tar.gz themedir/
[06:43] <snoops> good idea seth__, not enough space for me to do that sadly
[06:43] <seth__> you can copy anything you like, of course.
[06:44] <Crankymonky> prestosd, The application, window border, control themes of gnome are already in .tar.gz, usually
[06:44] <prestosd> not after you drag and drop though
[06:44] <seth__> snoops, then you might want to do it selectively.  I just hate the idea of assuming that there it no data hiding somewhere that I might need
[06:44] <salome> drag and drop
[06:44] <salome> what?  from where to where?
[06:44] <salome> what kind of themes?
[06:44] <seth__> snoops, too easy to make a mistake.  of course, it depends whether you really can't afford to lose things, or if it would just be inconvenient.
[06:44] <prestosd> WAIT
[06:45] <prestosd> you drag the tar.gz files into the themes window
[06:45] <prestosd> then click install
[06:45] <DanglyBits> anyone with broadcom 4306 wireless experience
[06:45] <salome> im not entirely sure you even know what youre asking.
[06:45] <snoops> can't afford to lose the mysql data.. can copy the home directory to another network drive
[06:45] <prestosd> nevermind
[06:46] <prestosd> Ill just redownload them
[06:46] <salome> k
[06:46] <prestosd> thanks!
[06:46] <m0rgantosh> does anyone have any experience with windows networking?
[06:46] <salome> np
[06:46] <coreyo> is there any way to tell for sure if xinerama is enabled in my current X session?  I'm getting some funky behavior.
[06:46] <fbis> hi guys :)
[06:46] <salome> curse them all for making ubuntu so easy
[06:46] <coreyo> is there a utility that I can use to tell what the virtual resolution of my xinerama screen is, or the individual resolutions of each screen?
[06:47] <fbis> I'm new to ubuntu and wonder if its ok to read and write to an ntfs partition.  I haven't looked at linux for years and know it used to be an issue!
[06:47] <mmj_> what are the daily Edgy Eft releases for?
[06:47] <pcube> how can i avoid unnecessary drivers loading during booting?
[06:47] <sjaakmans> Hello
[06:47] <snoops> fbis reading is fine.. writing is still a bit risky
[06:47] <coreyo> fbis: DON'T DO IT!!! only read
[06:47] <jokester> hello, i've just upgraded (6.06->6.10) and i have some bizarre problems with gnome. I can no longer control the gtk2 themes and icons
[06:48] <jokester> i should say that i'm running beryl/xgl
[06:48] <raghu206> !engage
[06:48] <sjaakmans> Everytime i try to install avahi it fails... what do i have to do to start it?
[06:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about engage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:48] <jokester> any ideas ?
[06:48] <seth__> fbis, still is something of an issue.  there is a relatively new piece of software that claims to have solved the problems.  I say "claims" only because it is relatively new and I don't like to do risky things with file systems.
[06:48] <fbis> thanks snoops :( How risky?
[06:48] <elias_> when will suspend2 finally be integrated into the official linux kernel tree or at least into ubuntu's kernel?
[06:48] <kmaynard> fbis, have a backup :-D
[06:49] <datil> hi, what are the "daily" cdimages of Edgy Eft for?
[06:49] <seth__> fbis, I don't think it's quantifiable yet.  As kmaynard said, _always_ have a backup
[06:49] <elias_> this is long overdue, since standard swsusp simply does not do its job.
[06:49] <pcube> how can i avoid unnecessary drivers loading during booting?
[06:49] <fbis> i'd like to save to my data drive (document etc) but its in ntfs and I can't read linux partition in windows :(
[06:49] <raghu206> !engage
[06:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about engage - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:49] <fbis> usb keys the safest bet then?
[06:49] <seth__> pcube, you can remove unnecessary modules from modules.conf.  you can turn off unneeded services with the service manager thing
[06:50] <pcube> thnx i will try it
[06:50] <jayknitter> anyone know how to get the upgrade button to show up when running gksu "update-manager -c".  For some reason mine isn't there!
[06:50] <seth__> fbis, usb sticks are perfectly safe.  if they are an option, no need to take risks
[06:50] <bieb_work> I am having a problem booting into Ubuntu... I have a 3ware 80062LP RAID card with 2 80gb drives in Raid1, Ubuntu LiveCD sees the card and drives attached, and the installer sees them fine... when I reboot after the install, it gives me the "Minimal Bash-like line editing is supported" error, it doesnt boot into Ubuntu
[06:51] <fbis> what about fat32?
[06:51] <seth__> fbis, there are also ext3 drivers available for windows that are said to be safe
[06:51] <seth__> fbis, fat32 is vfat, and is safe
[06:51] <fbis> thanks a lot seth :) I'll just create a fat32 partition and copy my data over :)  Thanks :)
[06:52] <jayknitter> Trying to upgrade from dapper to Edgy.  When I run "gksu "update-manager -c"" I don't get an upgrade button!!  Anyone have any ideas how to get it to show up?
[06:52] <kmaynard> add a -d
[06:52] <kmaynard> !upgrade > jayknitter
[06:52] <jayknitter> kmaynard, how come it doesn't show up with just -c like everyone else?
[06:53] <jayknitter> !upgrade
[06:53] <ubotu> For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[06:53] <mmj_> what are the daily Edgy Eft releases for?
[06:53] <bieb_work> anyone have an idea what I should check first with my boot issue?
[06:53] <jayknitter> kmaynard, it doesn't mention anything about -d....why?
[06:53] <kmaynard> whats your issue?
[06:53] <bieb_work> I am having a problem booting into Ubuntu... I have a 3ware 80062LP RAID card with 2 80gb drives in Raid1, Ubuntu LiveCD sees the card and drives attached, and the installer sees them fine... when I reboot after the install, it gives me the "Minimal Bash-like line editing is supported" error, it doesnt boot into Ubuntu
[06:54] <kothz> !lamp
[06:54] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[06:55] <Kraig> any recommendations for guitar tabs software? i tried gnometab and it's asking me for a chord library and dunno if that's a recommended package
[06:55] <kmaynard> jayknitter, dunno
[06:56] <rafa> Hello.Someone installed latest NVidia Driver?
[06:56] <Larange> I have a package that refuses to install in apt-get, I cannot remove it nor install it. The end result is that I get a nasty error message each time I use apt-get, how do I get rid of it?
[06:56] <LimonJalisciense> i upgraded to edgy eft and i have problems with my network i didnt have before, i can't open any other remote computer, i can see an empty icon and it says it isnt a directory
[06:57] <fbis> how can I get a list of my partitions and their filesystems under ubuntu?
[06:57] <bieb_work> kmaynard.. any ideas what to check?
[06:57] <kmaynard> bieb_work,  whats your issue? i must have missed your original question
[06:57] <predaeus> fbis: check System/Administration/Gnome Partition Editor.
[06:57] <bieb_work> I am having a problem booting into Ubuntu... I have a 3ware 80062LP RAID card with 2 80gb drives in Raid1, Ubuntu LiveCD sees the card and drives attached, and the installer sees them fine... when I reboot after the install, it gives me the "Minimal Bash-like line editing is supported" error, it doesnt boot into Ubuntu
[06:57] <predaeus> fbis: if not there try installing "gparted".
[06:58] <kmaynard> ahh, raid controller
[06:58] <kmaynard> there's some issues with raid controllers...google is your friend
[06:59] <limonense> i upgraded to edgy eft and i have problems with my network i didnt have before, i can't open any other remote computer, i can see an empty icon and it says it isnt a directory
[06:59] <cosmodad> how can I add a "switch user" symbol to the GNOME panel?
[06:59] <bieb_work> the reason I selected the 3ware is it supports RH, SUSE, FreeBSD and has source and such... I know above 2.6.xx the 3w-xxx drivers exist in the distro
[06:59] <fbis> thankyou predaeus :)
[07:00] <bieb_work> like I said... I can boot into the liveCD, and mount the RAID1 partition and see all the data from the install
[07:01] <srafx> anyone good here with wireless?..mines working..but with some problems: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=295544
[07:03] <predaeus> cosmodad: you could add the Quit button, takes you 2 clicks to switch user then.
[07:03] <BeBraw> is there a way to disable python temporarily on ubuntu?
[07:03] <sc0tt> feed it a mouse
[07:03] <sc0tt> :>
[07:03] <BeBraw> it doesn't like snakes :s
[07:03] <sc0tt> >:D
[07:03] <BeBraw> i rather wouldn't uninstall python
[07:03] <Lattyware> Hey all, I am trying to get TwinView working again, and I have done, but now it appears that one of my monitors can't go above 640x320. I run both my monitors at 1280x1024 - they are both flatscreen, one via DVI, and one via VGA (which nView beeves is a CRT), any help? Setting higher than 640x320 gives me a black VGA monitor, and half the screen on my other one.
[07:04] <srafx> anyone have their wireless drop after running the screen saver for a while?
[07:04] <predaeus> BeBraw: maybe you could just temporarily rename the "python" interpreter binary. Not sure if this is safe though.
[07:05] <gerhard> hi all :D
[07:05] <cosmodad> predaeus: I'd prefer "switch user", or at least get an idea of what Ubuntu does to do the switching
[07:05] <sedrake> how do I kill a non killable process? :o
[07:05] <predaeus> hey
[07:05] <rnd_null> i'm newish and need help compiling a video driver from source and configing xorg with it....anyone?
[07:05] <cosmodad> predaeus: in the latter case, I could create a panel link myself...
[07:05] <cosmodad> sedrake: did you try "sudo kill -9 <pid>" ?
[07:05] <predaeus> cosmodad: yea, sry, no idea there.
[07:05] <cosmodad> predaeus: ok thanks
[07:05] <Lattyware> Anyone?
[07:06] <cosmodad> anyone know how to add a "switch user" panel icon in GNOME?
[07:07] <Lattyware> cosmodad: Hmm... there must be a command behind it, just find that and then add a custom application launcher.
[07:07] <fbis> thanks guys :)
[07:07] <cosmodad> Lattyware: I had the same idea but haven't been able to grab the code or command used
[07:07] <sedrake> cosmodad: didnt work eather
[07:07] <predaeus> cosmodad: maybe this can help http://blogs.gnome.org/view/jamesh/2005/12/05/0
[07:08] <sancho___> i'm receiving 'BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>' errors upon apt-get update now on my edgy upgrade box; have already set my apt sources to just archive.ubuntu.com and security.ubuntu.com per suggestion; any ideas? http://pastebin.com/819797
[07:08] <predaeus> cosmodad: maybe gnome-screensaver has an command line argument there or somehting
[07:08] <timo90> !windowsdrive
[07:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windowsdrive - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:08] <timo90> !mount
[07:08] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[07:09] <timo90> !mountwindows
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mountwindows - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <cosmodad> predaeus: can't see anything with "gnome-screensaver --help"
[07:09] <Lattyware> !ntfs
[07:09] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:09] <timo90> !windrivemount
[07:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about windrivemount - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:09] <cosmodad> there's gotta be some way to see the GNOME menu structure...
[07:09] <Crankymonky> !enlightenment edgy
[07:09] <m4cgyv3ry> anyone has output problems on php5 and ming ?
[07:09] <ubotu> enlightenment: The Enlightenment Window Manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.16.7.2-3ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 380 kB, installed size 980 kB
[07:09] <predaeus> cosmodad: i havent got it installed, try "man gnome-screensaver"
[07:09] <timo90> Lattyware: :-P
[07:09] <sancho___> cosmodad: alacarte
[07:10] <srafx> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=295544  can anyone help?
[07:10] <Lattyware> timo90: lol
[07:10] <cosmodad> predaeus: it doesn't come with any manpage
[07:10] <cosmodad> sancho___: ?
[07:10] <predaeus> cosmodad: doh...*g*
[07:10] <cosmodad> sancho___: oh ok
[07:10] <sancho___> cosmodad: a gnome menu editor
[07:10] <Lattyware> I thought it'd be better to not wait for you to try every possible combination :P
[07:10] <cosmodad> sancho___: oh I've got that before
[07:10] <cosmodad> sancho___: but it doesn't include the "Quit"-menu icons :/
[07:11] <sancho___> frankly menu editing in gnome is asinine
[07:11] <cosmodad> sancho___: at least I couldn't find any
[07:11] <sancho___> i wish building / editing menus in gnome was as easy as it blackbox/fluxbox/etc.
[07:11] <Lattyware> I don't know why having a menu made out of folders is such a bad idea. I actually like that about windows.
[07:11] <cosmodad> sancho___: I agree, it's a mjaor pain in the ass
[07:12] <Lattyware> Then again, I use a panel full of draws now-a-days anyway
[07:12] <sancho___> Lattyware: not nearly as easy as a single ascii text file ;)
[07:12] <grant> hey can someone tell me the command where i can setup keyboard shortcuts to programs, thanks
[07:12] <phaedrus44> sancho___:   fluxbuntu   : )
[07:12] <grant> please don't say gconf-editor, cause for some reason that wont run
[07:12] <Lattyware> The menus are XML eventually, arn't they... I thjnk...
[07:13] <sancho___> phaedrus44: not a bad idea. ;) is there an xfce-based ubuntu flavor?
[07:13] <Lattyware> So, anyone know why I can only run one of my monitors at 640x320?
[07:13] <grant> hey can someone tell me the command where i can setup keyboard shortcuts to programs, thanks
[07:13] <grant> please don't say gconf-editor, cause for some reason that wont run
[07:13] <Lattyware> sancho___: xubuntu
[07:13] <burzum> how can i remove pcmcia from all runlevels?
[07:13] <sancho___> Lattyware: ah, forgot.
[07:13] <burzum> isnt there a runlevelmanager for the console?
[07:13] <Lattyware> sancho___: In fact, there are two xubuntus, one for the Xbox and one for PC...
[07:14] <sancho___> burzum: update-rc.d controls what apps run at what runlevels
[07:14] <phaedrus44> sancho___ :   yeah  xubuntu ,   i tried it and it is still bloated and slow...   try this  #fluxbuntu
[07:14] <grant> hey can someone tell me the command where i can setup keyboard shortcuts to programs, thanks
[07:15] <predaeus> grant: please dont flood people can still read your message up there twice *g*
[07:15] <predaeus> grant: what is the key combo you want to use?
[07:16] <grant> predaeus, sorry about that, kinda rushed is all, want to setup CRTL+ALT+"z" to launch 3ddesk
[07:18] <burzum> sancho, thanks
[07:18] <socres> nochmal highlight bitte
[07:19] <drew> I have beta drivers of a Nvidia Gfx card installed for Beryl and my updates keep coming up telling me to install the non-beta drivers, is there any way to stop updates for those particular drivers from appearing?
[07:20] <grant> predaeus, any ideas?
[07:20] <porkpie__> guys when you build ubuntu it asks you for a user account and password.  Does this password become the root password ??
[07:20] <predaeus> grant: sry for that but I just tried gconf-editor with the entry under apps/metacity/global keybinding/run_command_2 "<Control><Alt>z" and under keybinding commands also under the metacity path, "gnome-editor" under command_2 and iit works
[07:20] <Rondom> !sudo > polttaja
[07:20] <Rondom> !sudo > porkpie__
[07:20] <Rondom> sorry polttaja
[07:21] <grant> predaeus, should i be able to run gconf-editor from anywhere? when i try it nothing is happening, end up having to do ctrl-c
[07:21] <scout> hey! how do i open for access to my apache server and ftp server from the outside ?
[07:21] <predaeus> grant: hm i got it under applications/system tools
[07:21] <porkpie__> Rondom:so yes it's the same password.
[07:22] <Rondom> porkpie__: no
[07:22] <Rondom> porkpie__: there is no root-pw in ubuntu, ubuntu uses sudo for gaining root access
[07:22] <predaeus> grant: try rightclick on Applications then Edit Menus und System TOols tick Configuration Editor and hit Close.
 have you opened the orrect ports on your firewall? (80, 21)
[07:22] <predaeus> *and
[07:22] <Rondom> !sudo > Rondom
[07:23] <grant> ok predaeus, tried right click etc selected edit menus, mouse icon went busy then nothing happened
[07:23] <scout> jimmypw, how to i open them ?
[07:23] <Kyynara> could someone tell me the command how to reconfigure my xorg settings?
[07:23] <scout> jimmypw, i know i have to use iptables... but don't know how
[07:24] <pzonk> Ping
[07:24] <ladydoor> Kyynara: does sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg do anything?
[07:24] <Kyynara> dpkg-reconfigure [instert something with xorg here] 
[07:24] <Kyynara> thank you
[07:24] <jimmypw> <sout what firewall are you using?
[07:24] <phaedrus44> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ?
[07:24] <Rondom> porkpie__: read the url
[07:24] <Kyynara> that's what I was searching for
[07:24] <Kyynara> thanks
[07:24] <Kyynara> ladydoor, and phaedrus44
[07:24] <scout> jimmypw, none
[07:25] <scout> jimmypw, i think
[07:25] <predaeus> grant: maybe you need to install alacarte. that is the menu editor for gnome.
[07:25] <phaedrus44> Kyynara:   ne time
 not even a router?
[07:25] <predaeus> grant: sudo apt-get install alacarte
[07:25] <timo90> POV are you here
[07:25] <scout> jimmypw, well yes a router... or more like a switch
[07:25] <timo90> Is POVaddct here
[07:25] <scout> jimmypw, i think it's called
[07:25] <grant> predaeus, i know i already have this program, i've used it before, but it doesn't seem to be running now
[07:26] <predaeus> grant: hm, still gconf-editor should run from console too
 is there a web front for it or an additional onfiguration program
[07:26] <chopchop_> guys, is ubuntu system v unix??
[07:26] <grant> predaeus, nope nothing
[07:26] <mentok> this may be a strange question, but does anyone know of where I can find some info about the benifits of ubuntu over debian? thanks :)
[07:26] <scout> jimmypw, i think there is a webfront
[07:26] <ladydoor> !debian
[07:26] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded". To see more details on the relationship, see: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[07:26] <Agrajag_> chopchop_: no, it's linux
[07:26] <ladydoor> mentok: ^^^
[07:26] <mentok> ladydoor: hmm?
[07:27] <DanglyBits> anyone with broadcom 4306 wireless experience?
[07:27] <Agrajag_> chopchop_: which is kind of similar but it's not sysv
[07:27] <predaeus> grant: I dont know if gnome would run withouth gconf-editor. maybe try installing it. sudo apt-get install gconf-editor
[07:27] <ladydoor> mentok: see ubotu's last post.
[07:27] <mentok> ladydoor: oh! I see :)
[07:27] <ladydoor> :-)
[07:27] <mentok> ladydoor: thanks
[07:27] <chopchop_> Agrajag_: thanks
[07:27] <ladydoor> mentok: np
[07:27] <grant> predaeus, it is listed under my commands, it just wont run, its really weird
[07:27] <mentok> ladydoor: :)
 1 more thing, are you trying to aess the server form a computer on the same network (plugged in to the same swith)?
[07:27] <grant> predaeus, i've even tried it with sudo
[07:27] <predaeus> grant: somehow sounds familiar. are you uptodate?
[07:27] <scout> jimmypw, nope
 or from another omputer on the internet
[07:28] <nikosapi> hello, I'm having some problems with building gtkpod, can someone check this out: http://pastebin.ca/243606
[07:28] <grant> predaeus, did an update day before yesterday, so i guess so
[07:28] <predaeus> grant: bummer. sry no idea.
[07:28] <scout> jimmypw, well to begin with... i can't access my own ftp server from my own computer
[07:28] <grant> predaeus, anyways, thanks for you help, i had better go get ready, i'll sort it out later
[07:28] <scout> jimmypw, and that is kinda what i'm looking to solve...
[07:28] <grant> thanks
[07:28] <grant> bye
[07:28] <predaeus> byw
[07:28] <predaeus> *bye
[07:29] <spiff> rumsfeld has been fired.
[07:29] <scout> jimmypw, and... yea... just thought that opening up for the ports or something would fix it
[07:29] <LjL> !offtopic
[07:29] <ubotu> #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[07:29] <scout> jimmypw, so others could access it
[07:29] <sancho___> anybody have hints when 'apt-get update' can't complete because of GPG errors (BADSIG on the archive key?)
[07:29] <anan> hi everyone, does anyone know how to "lock" the toolbars, status bar, background etc... for an unprivileged account in Ubuntu ? i dont want the user to modify it
[07:30] <sancho___> kinda not finding much help out on the web for it...
[07:30] <socomm> I'm using the ubuntu live-cd. Trying to recover files from a computer.
[07:30] <j0nas`> hey guys, does anyone know of an apt package for gcc 4.1 or greater?
[07:30] <Justy-> Hi
[07:30] <j0nas`> OR--know how to make one?
[07:31] <socomm> I'm curious if it's at all possible to compress a file onto a samba share, because I don't have enough space on my ram to compress it locally.
[07:31] <scout> jimmypw, how do i find the ip of my router ?
[07:31] <j0nas`> it doesnt work like that...
[07:31] <socomm> Any thoughts?
[07:31] <j0nas`> have you tried compressing it on your local machine?
[07:31] <zerosmoke> it should be in the documentation
[07:31] <zerosmoke> scoiut
[07:31] <j0nas`> you shouldnt be able to run out of ram on any modern os because they do memory swapping
[07:31] <Justy-> scout, "ifconfig" and that will give you a thought
[07:32] <j0nas`> scout: you may have to go to your router's status screen for that info
[07:32] <socres> can anyone tell me how to configure xchatosd?
[07:32] <phaedrus44> 192.168.1.1
[07:32] <phaedrus44> hehe
[07:32] <scout> j0nas`, well i'm looking for it
[07:33] <phaedrus44> scout: 192.168.1.1
[07:33] <Justy-> hello all? do you see what i type?
[07:33] <scout> j0nas`, the webfront i mean
[07:33] <FewClues> I need help with display.
[07:33] <Justy-> phaedrus44, it may be 10.0.0.2
[07:33] <Intangir> does anyone here use mutella?
[07:33] <j0nas`> keep looking :) it'll be there somewhere
[07:33] <phaedrus44> yeah that too
[07:33] <socomm> j0nas`: this is live cd, there's no hdd to swap to.
[07:33] <scout> j0nas`, heh heh... no way i'm going to look all the ip's through
[07:33] <FewClues> I installed 6.06 on my laptop using "safe mode" now I cannot alter screen size.
 sorry i was afk for a moment
[07:34] <j0nas`> socom: fair enough ;)
[07:34] <antiPo5ix> I am trying to install the NVidia binaries (from nvidia) but cannot get out of X.  There is no more /etc/inittab so I can put it in runlevel 3.  Everytime I Control->Alt-Backspace X respawns.  How do I shut of X so I can run the binary installer
 ill just read your posts
[07:34] <phaedrus44> scout:  are you looking for the admin screen to your router?
[07:34] <scout> phaedrus44, yep
[07:34] <j0nas`> antiposix: you need to kill gdm
[07:34] <phaedrus44> 10.0.0.2  or  192.168.1.1   in a web browser ..
[07:34] <phaedrus44> doesnt werk?
[07:34] <j0nas`> ie: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:34] <antiPo5ix> thanks
[07:34] <scout> phaedrus44, nope
[07:35] <squidly> hello how can I tell ubunto to force a reinstall of a package?
[07:35] <scout> might be that i just need to use iptables ?
[07:35] <predaeus> squidly: sudo apt-get install --reinstall <packagename>
[07:35] <phaedrus44> scout..what  router ytou have
[07:35] <phaedrus44> ?
[07:36] <j0nas`> you dont need iptables to get your ip!
[07:36] <scout> phaedrus44, i think it is a belkin...
[07:36] <scout> j0nas`, i'm not trying to get my ip
[07:36] <j0nas`> try /whois scout
[07:36] <j0nas`> that should give you your ip
[07:36] <scout> i know how to get my ip
[07:36] <phaedrus44> scout:  is it plugged in to your puter?
[07:36] <scout> phaedrus44, yep...
[07:36] <phaedrus44> bummer
[07:36] <phaedrus44> hehe
[07:36] <antiPo5ix> if I wanted to make my desktop X-less, like the old fashion runlevel 3, how whould I do this, cause I dont always need X
[07:36] <squidly>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/nagios/plugins/check_ifoperstatus', which is also in package nagios-plugins-extra
[07:37] <scout> phaedrus44, but i don't have physical access to it... my mother is in the way... evil woman...
[07:37] <squidly> that is the error I get when I do a sudo apt-get install --reinstall nagios-plugins-standard
[07:37] <j0nas`> antiPo5ix: let me think...
[07:37] <FewClues> Hello!   Can anyone tell me how to reset my screen size?  I installed 6.06 using "safe mode" and now it won't allow me to cnage my screen.
[07:38] <phaedrus44> scout:  try this one   192.168.2.1
[07:38] <scout> phaedrus44, nope no luck
[07:38] <j0nas`> antiPo5ix: edit inittab and set runlevel to 3 instead of 5 (or 6?)
[07:38] <antiPo5ix> j0nas` where do I find the inittab
 Im back with a few questions Please can you pastebin the response of ifconfig?
[07:39] <phaedrus44> scout:  is the router plugged in?
[07:39] <phaedrus44> hehe
[07:39] <j0nas`> antiPo5ix: its in /etc
[07:39] <antiPo5ix> with Ubuntu 6.10 I do not have one in /etc/inittab
[07:39] <scout> phaedrus44, yep it is
[07:39] <phaedrus44> 192.168.0.1   ?
[07:39] <j0nas`> you should read the manpage first to make sure you know what you're doing
[07:41] <jl_> hello
[07:41] <jl_> hello
[07:41] <scout> woops
[07:41] <FewClues> jt_: hello
[07:42] <Mantice> Can some one help me ? My Azureus is gliching up.
[07:42] <scout> phaedrus44, what was your last question ? i killed X by mistake
[07:43] <kothz> !lamp
[07:43] <ubotu> lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[07:43] <Mantice> When I run Azureus nothing happens. untill I launch it twice.
[07:43] <Maxima> !eban
[07:43] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about eban - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:43] <Kyynara> I get an API mismatch error when trying to start X. It says that I should check that my NVIDIA kernel module and my nvidia driver components have the same version. Anyone have any ideas?
[07:43] <Maxima> ANy rusians?
[07:44] <Mantice> Any one know why its doing this ?
[07:44] <Maxima> fucking ubantu
[07:44] <kmaynard> Mantice, try starting it from the terminal, see what happens
[07:44] <scout> !ubantu
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubantu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <Maxima> !ubantu
[07:44] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ubantu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:44] <Maxima> sss
[07:44] <Maxima> 
[07:45] <Mantice> Kmaynard its running as we speak
[07:45] <Kyynara> !russians
[07:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about russians - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:45] <Kyynara> !russia
[07:45] <j0nas`> plz dont curse ubuntu!  it is the hands down best free operating system of our lifetime
[07:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about russia - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:45] <Mantice> It has the Warning it did not shut down box and I cant click hide on it.
[07:45] <kmaynard> Mantice, then try it next time, see if it kicks up any errors
[07:46] <FewClues> This has been marvelous. I'm demonstrating the Ubuntu community to a computer club.  I've stated a problem, attempted to greet, and with 986 people on line I couldn't get a hello. You have just undermined my whole presentation on the concept of community.  205 people here now believe Ubuntu is a clique.
[07:46] <kmaynard> FewClues, stop whinig...re-state your problem
[07:46] <sancho___> FewClues: cry me a river.
[07:46] <j0nas`> FewClues... fitting name
[07:46] <kmaynard> jeez
[07:46] <j0nas`> more like clueless
[07:47] <phaedrus44> FewClues:   uh  ...a clique ?   look at the numbers of users
[07:47] <seth__> when he sends me a check, I'll be happy to help him.  :)
[07:47] <phaedrus44> hehe
[07:47] <j0nas`> fewclues ought to go TO A FRIGGING FORUM to guage community support
[07:47] <kmaynard> seth__, lol
[07:47] <kmaynard> okapi, he's left, let's move on
[07:47] <ladydoor> j0nas`: calm down
[07:47] <j0nas`> heheh
[07:47] <usuario> hola
[07:47] <kmaynard> okapi, my bad, got tab-happy...ignore that
[07:48] <Mantice> How to I close down Azureus?
[07:48] <ompaul> !es
[07:48] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[07:48] <timo90> whats this all about im trying to mount my winodws drive:Ensure there's a blank line at the end of gEdit (move to the end of the file and hit Return)
[07:48] <j0nas`> seriously though, it is really easy to get help
[07:48] <Mantice> I cant exit it.
[07:48] <j0nas`> easier than ever before
[07:48] <kmaynard> Mantice, kill the process if you have to
[07:48] <Mantice> How :)
[07:48] <ladydoor> Mantice: killall -s KILL azureus
[07:48] <kmaynard> ps -u "username"   then kill [pid] 
[07:49] <kmaynard> many ways to skin a cat
[07:49] <Fastly> anyone here know why the following is being run by cron every 20 mins? test -x /etc/init.d/sendmail && /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail cron-msp
[07:49] <Mantice> That did not work
[07:49] <Mantice> killall -s KILL azureus did not work :(
[07:49] <ladydoor> kmaynard: i've never liked that phase (so i guess it applies to language as well)...but yeah, definitely.
[07:49] <Fastly> and how do i stop this?
[07:49] <Mantice> I still got the Warning Azureus did not shutdown tidily.
[07:50] <timo90>  kmaynard: amen to that
[07:50] <ladydoor> Mantice: see kmaynard's post immediately after mine
[07:50] <Mantice> I cant get rid of it becaued its locked up
[07:50] <kmaynard> Mantice, what's the pid?
[07:51] <kmaynard> ha
[07:51] <kmaynard> that wasnt the right pid
[07:51] <timo90> is it safe for me to "sudo mount -a" even thou im not shure i edited the /etc/fstab file correctly
[07:51] <khoda> i just installed drivers for my ATI x1400 on my t60. now , sometimes there's a white line under my mouse cursor - specifically when im open a menu like clicking "file"
[07:51] <Salah> how do I fix the resolution of the screen? /etc/X11/xorg.conf is fixed, but the screen don't go further than 1024x768
[07:52] <kmaynard> timo90, mount must be run as root...and if there's any errors it wont mount
[07:52] <kmaynard> go for it :)
[07:52] <shingalated> hello
[07:52] <shingalated> Can anyone tell me how to download and install repository keys without using port 8080?
[07:52] <abhinay> hi there
[07:52] <BSOD_slayer> ping
[07:52] <BSOD_slayer> doh
[07:52] <khoda> i just installed drivers for my ATI x1400 on my t60. now , sometimes there's a white line under my mouse cursor - specifically when im open a menu like clicking "file"
[07:53] <BSOD_slayer> thought i was in terminal ><
[07:53] <j0nas`> khoda: do you still have the box your computer came in? :)
[07:53] <abhinay> the edgy installation strucks up at country selection , may i know why ?
[07:53] <khoda> j0nas`: yes, why?
[07:53] <kamui> !restricted
[07:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:53] <SupremacyGnu> Hello! I've noticed I can't use neither teamspeak or ventrilo to use VOIP and play games at the same time. Is there anyway other then getting another soundcard to fix this? Thanks
[07:53] <timo90> i just done "sudo mount -a" and i have no files
[07:54] <niktaris> hi, is there an known problem with beagle and edgy ? I get an error while installing beagle-backend-evolution
[07:54] <seth__> abhinay, it has some instabilities.  you'll have better results with the text mode install on the alternate cd
[07:54] <abhinay> Is there anyway to improve the performance of Live CD ?
[07:54] <variant> SupremacyGnu: yes, apt-get install alsa-oss and then start your programs with aoss programname
[07:54] <j0nas`> khoda: pack your computer up in the box and send it back!
[07:54] <kmaynard> abhinay, install it on your pc
[07:54] <j0nas`> just kidding man, i have no idea
[07:54] <abhinay> because of low bandwidth it takes 2 days to download a CD image
[07:54] <seth__> abhinay, buy a faster cd drive?  buy a faster computer?  anything specific?
[07:54] <khoda> j0nas`: it's not an issue with the computer. i saw on the forums someone else had the same problem
[07:54] <earthian> hello how do i install skype on 64bit os again? i get missing libaudio.so.2 which i think is not there.. :S
[07:54] <shingalated> I'm trying to enable the repositories to download and install software and when I reload the package list with 'apt-get update' or in synaptic, I am unable to download any of the gpg keys because my router is using port 8080 for remote management and it cant be disabled
[07:54] <SupremacyGnu> variant, which program? the game or the VOIP program?
[07:54] <earthian> i have libaudio2 for amd64
[07:54] <RideSn> I've got a question regarding Eclipse and edgy: Eclipse worked fine for me until i upgraded to edgy from dapper. . now i a seemingly random error in eclipe when trying to run or debugg saying: "exception occured executing command line" . . and in the eclipse error log the previous line before the error says: " java.io.IOException: cannot allocate memory" I've searched the formed and googled it a fair amount and haven't seen much similar. thou
[07:54] <variant> abhinay: you can create your own from your running system with linux-live.org scripts, the live cd's those scripts produce are about 5X faster
[07:54] <kmaynard> abhinay, or use the alternate cd...the live cd is too sluggish for my taste
[07:55] <variant> SupremacyGnu: probably the voip but better to do both, just change the menu entry so that the command has aoss in front of it
[07:55] <kmaynard> RideSn, you got java installed properly?
[07:55] <SupremacyGnu> variant, you see, the games I play, I play with wine... does this inflict any problems?
[07:55] <seth__> shingalated, not really anything you can do about that.  It's a serious coding error down in the libraries
[07:55] <zwnj> i get this error on apache2/error.log when running a PHP page: "*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x000000000052afe0 ***"  googling, i couldn't find any solution (except suggestion about recompiling without zend-optimizer). [i'm on an amd64] 
[07:55] <kmaynard> SupremacyGnu, wine isnt perfect
[07:55] <khoda> i just installed drivers for my ATI x1400 on my t60. now , sometimes there's a white line under my mouse cursor - specifically when im open a menu like clicking "file"
[07:55] <variant> SupremacyGnu: probably not, just start the wine process with aoss in fron
[07:55] <variant> t
[07:55] <RideSn> kmaynard: we'll java was fine before the upgrade, and the jre being used is 1.5
[07:55] <SupremacyGnu> variant, ok
[07:55] <shingalated> i cant add them manually somehow if i download the keys elsewhere?
[07:56] <Mantice> I got azureus to stop and I uninstalled it.
[07:56] <timo90> do i have to reboot to find a windows partition i just mounted ?
[07:56] <Mantice> and I reinstalled it and its the same as before.
[07:56] <variant> timo90: no
[07:56] <kmaynard> Mantice, use bittorrent :)
[07:56] <abhinay> seth__, P4 with 2.4 GHz , 512 MB ram
[07:56] <variant> timo90: where di dyou mount it?
[07:56] <SupremacyGnu> variant, thanks for the hel
[07:56] <SupremacyGnu> p
[07:56] <Mantice> I thought azureus was the best.
[07:56] <kothz> azureus is java-bogged :)
[07:56] <kmaynard> if it downloads the torrent who cares?
[07:56] <seth__> shingalated, I'm sure you can, but it would take quite a bit of time to figure out just what you need to replace
[07:56] <variant> SupremacyGnu: varsgod
[07:57] <kmaynard> it puts the torrent in the folder
[07:57] <timo90> variant: /media/windows
[07:57] <Mantice> Yes Im not a fan of java my self but java apps use to run flawlessly.
[07:57] <variant> timo90: so, type ls /media/windows and thats where it is
[07:57] <kmaynard> try other clients
[07:57] <Mantice> in linux.
[07:57] <shingalated> seth, well how would I add the keys manually?
[07:57] <variant> timo90: or open the file manager at /media/windows
[07:57] <kmaynard> there is no holy grail
[07:58] <Mantice> whats the best torrent manager ?
[07:58] <RideSn> kmaynard: eclipse is using j2re1.5-sun in /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun
[07:58] <timo90> yeh i opent a file browser and went to /media/windows
[07:58] <seth__> shingalated, I'd have to look at it, I don't know off hand
[07:58] <variant> timo90: so, what do you need to know now?
[07:58] <kmaynard> Mantice, i'm partial to bittorrent
[07:58] <seth__> RideSn, I don't think it's the jre, I think it is a lower level library the jre relies on
[07:58] <NET||abuse> hey guys.. anyone got wine working on amd64/edgy?
[07:58] <kmaynard> RideSn, checked the forums?
[07:58] <shingalated> seth, I posted in the forums and no one seems to know
[07:58] <seth__> RideSn, not that I can be sure, but I think it's likely
[07:59] <Mantice> I use bit torrent everyday :(
[07:59] <kmaynard> Mantice, http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=torrent&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
[07:59] <NET||abuse> i looked around the wine site, they have a deb, but it's for edgy/i386
[07:59] <variant> Mantice: your just going to have to find an alternative source of porn
[07:59] <NET||abuse> not amdd564
[07:59] <NET||abuse> amd64.. heh
[07:59] <seth__> shingalated, I can't really look right now, I'm at work and I only have a few moments now and then to check what's going on here.
[07:59] <timo90> im having problems editing the  /etc/fstab file
[07:59] <earthian> hello how do i install skype on 64bit os again? i get missing libaudio.so.2 which i think is not there.. :S
[07:59] <earthian> i have libaudio2 for amd64
[07:59] <shingalated> alright
[07:59] <RideSn> ok thanks kmaynard, seth_ . . im going to seach the forums a bit more i guess
[07:59] <variant> timo90: ok, what problem exactly?
[08:00] <variant> timo90: start sshd, give me a username and password and i will fix it for you
[08:00] <kmaynard> Mantice, also see  http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=481608
[08:00] <j0nas`> blatant digression:  why do people buy 64 bit processors?
[08:00] <timo90> i typed this at the end"/dev/hda1       /media/windows  vfat    user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0
[08:00] <scout> hmm
[08:00] <LGKeiz-Windows> Kingsqueak >>
[08:00] <kmaynard> j0nas`, good for servers, sucky for desktops unless you run OS X, IMO
[08:00] <scout> how do i open up port 21 in iptables ?
[08:00] <Mantice> Kmaynard: thanks for your help I got to go to school now : /
[08:01] <shingalated> seth, could I have you get back to me on this? my email is esposito30@gmail.com
[08:01] <kmaynard> Mantice, apt-get install bittorrent
[08:01] <variant> timo90: ok, change vfat to auto and user to users and make sure there are a couple of new lines at the bottom of the file (press enter a couple of times before you save it)
[08:01] <seth__> shingalated, I can look this evening, yes.  send me an email at seth@cql.com
[08:01] <teledyn> timo90: why not just use umask option?
[08:01] <andax> scout, iptables --insert INPUT -p tcp --destination-port 21 -j ACCEPT
[08:01] <variant> timo90: then to mount it you can just type mount /media/windows
[08:01] <kmaynard> someone trusts their spam filters... :)
[08:01] <RideSn> seth_ : is it worth perhaps to remove all instances of java and reinstall it?
[08:02] <j0nas`> kmaynard: 64 bit processors are completely unsuitable to desktop workstations... do you think its unethical of the manufacturers to market them that way?
[08:02] <timo90> variant:Thats the one
[08:02] <variant> timo90: what?
[08:02] <psusi> j0nas`: how are they at all unsuited for desktop workstations?
[08:02] <The_Machine> for some reason i can't play videos through yahoo video stuff (like, that which is linked off of the front page)
[08:02] <The_Machine> could someone help me?
[08:02] <kothz> I enjoy the >4G RAM freedom that my 64-bit processors give me.
[08:02] <kmaynard> j0nas`, depends on what the user needs...i'll stay 32 bit till the apps catch up
[08:02] <variant> The_Machine: give me an example URL please
[08:03] <j0nas`> psusi: can you think of any reason you would need 2^64 memory addresses on a desktop?
[08:03] <psusi> I enjoy the better performance from the wider registers, and more of them
[08:03] <timo90> mount /media/windows i typed sudo mount -a
[08:03] <The_Machine> http://www.yahoo.com/s/432214
[08:03] <The_Machine> variant: http://www.yahoo.com/s/432214
[08:03] <variant> timo90: ok
[08:03] <andax> i use dapper with xgl/beryl now, ubuntulinux.com says edgy comes with aiglx which I have no clue about. If i have 3d now with xgl should it work also on edgy?
[08:03] <variant> timo90: i take it it worked?
[08:03] <j0nas`> psusi: ie. terabytes of memory
[08:03] <psusi> j0nas`: no.... but that's not all that 64 bit means
[08:03] <j0nas`> i know
[08:04] <bimberi> andax: yes it should
[08:04] <The_Machine> it just says:  (no video)
[08:04] <j0nas`> the registers are wider too but its of little use unless you're doing scientific computation
[08:04] <kmaynard> looks like a special plug-in
[08:04] <variant> *bighead alert*
[08:04] <The_Machine> i installed mplayer and helix and mplayer firefox plugin yesterday - could those screw it up?
[08:04] <andax> thanks
[08:04] <psusi> it is of use since you can perform two 32 bit operations in one cycle
[08:04] <The_Machine> i can play youtube and stuff just fine, and it looks like the yahoo link is flash based
[08:04] <The_Machine> but, i'm stuck :(
[08:04] <psusi> and there are also more registers, which means you overflow to the stack less
[08:04] <Fallen_Angel> Hey people can someone help me with mounting NTFS dinamic disk to UBUNTU 6.06 ???
[08:04] <psusi> this also makes things faster
[08:04] <kmaynard> The_Machine, looks like yahoo is using a special plugin. try firefox 1.5 under wine
[08:04] <Subhuman> psusi, it doesnt work like that, performing 2x the 32 bit cycles.
[08:04] <psusi> Fallen_Angel: I don't think you can moun dynamic disks
[08:04] <timo90> variant:Its done
[08:05] <The_Machine> oh, really?
[08:05] <The_Machine> :/
[08:05] <variant> timo90: good, does it work?
[08:05] <bimberi> !ntfs | Fallen_Angel
[08:05] <ubotu> Fallen_Angel: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:05] <Subhuman> otherwise a 2ghz 64 bit processor would be like a 4 ghz x86 processor.
[08:05] <psusi> Subhuman: yes it does... google for SIMD
[08:05] <Subhuman> which it isnt....
[08:05] <The_Machine> kmaynard: does it not work for you?
[08:05] <seth__> Subhuman, psusi the best estimates I've seen are that 64 bit gets you about 10% improvement in overall performance
[08:05] <timo90> variant:Its wasnt as hard as i thout it would be
[08:05] <variant> Fallen_Angel: yes, you should be able to mount it in the usual way
[08:05] <variant> timo90: it never is :)
[08:05] <shrndegruv> what does the following do?
[08:05] <shrndegruv> wget http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[08:05] <shrndegruv> sudo apt-get update
[08:05] <psusi> Subhuman: the program has to have two 32 bit operations it wants to perform that are not dependant on each other to do it obviously
[08:06] <psusi> which means you aren't goign to get a straight doubling of performance
[08:06] <variant> shrndegruv: that downloads a gpg signature and adds it to you signature keyring then updates your apt-repositry to include the new information
[08:06] <psusi> but it does help because sometimes you do have multiple independant operations
[08:06] <kothz> shrn: it probably prompts you for a password :)
[08:06] <psusi> shrndegruv: it gets a gpg key from that url and adds it to your key ring so that apt won't complain when you install packages they signed
[08:06] <variant> The_Machine: just a momment
[08:07] <shrndegruv> ok  so i need to do that to update my repos
[08:07] <shrndegruv> ?
[08:07] <The_Machine> variant: do you get "no video" when you click on that link?  (http://www.yahoo.com/s/432214)
[08:07] <seth__> shrndegruv   the apt-get update?  yes
[08:07] <psusi> shrndegruv: you do that if you want to use packages from freecontrib.org
[08:07] <psusi> shrndegruv: instead of just from ubuntu
[08:07] <variant> The_Machine: you need to have realplayer installed
[08:07] <timo90> variant: Now to get totem codecs , does synaptics p manager have the codecs
[08:07] <shrndegruv> all i want is xchat on my dapper install
[08:08] <The_Machine> k
[08:08] <variant> The_Machine: apt-get install realplay
[08:08] <The_Machine> thanks variant
[08:08] <variant> The_Machine: you need to enable multiverse and universe repos
[08:08] <shrndegruv> i added universe and multiverse to my souces.list
[08:08] <psusi> shrndegruv: then install xchat
[08:08] <variant> sorry, that was for timo90
[08:08] <The_Machine> k
[08:08] <shrndegruv> but cant find xchat
[08:08] <variant> timo90: you need universe and multiverse repos
[08:08] <variant> timo90: its very easy
[08:09] <psusi> the xchat package is in the ubuntu repositories... sudo apt-get install xchat
[08:09] <The_Machine> weird - i do have those repos activated
[08:09] <The_Machine> still isn't finding it
[08:09] <variant> The_Machine: ok
[08:09] <psusi> ohh, yea... it's in universe
[08:09] <variant> The_Machine: apt-get install realplay
[08:09] <The_Machine> couldn't find package
[08:09] <psusi> fire up synaptic and enable the universe repo... somewhere in the settings... check the box to turn it on
[08:09] <wwyyzzoo> hello
[08:09] <The_Machine> Strange.
[08:09] <timo90> 3D univers simulator ?
[08:10] <wwyyzzoo> i am sorry  for   bathering..
[08:10] <variant> !realplayer
[08:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:10] <The_Machine> psusi: it's enabled
[08:10] <psusi> The_Machine: after you enable the repo, you have to apt-get update
[08:10] <wwyyzzoo> but  i  have  a little problem
[08:10] <The_Machine> it already was enabled and apt is updated.
[08:10] <The_Machine> (honestly!)
[08:10] <timo90> !repos
[08:10] <ubotu> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. See http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and !easysource
[08:10] <psusi> The_Machine: something must be wrong with your apt.conf or something then...
[08:10] <The_Machine> maybe
[08:10] <The_Machine> thanks anyway
[08:10] <The_Machine> i'll just d/ld it from the site
[08:11] <The_Machine> and compile it
[08:11] <variant> The_Machine: ah, sorry you need w32codecs
[08:11] <variant> The_Machine: its part of that package
[08:11] <The_Machine> ah
[08:11] <The_Machine> w32 codecs :)
[08:11] <variant> The_Machine: apt-get install w32codecs
[08:11] <wwyyzzoo> i can't boot from  ubuntu's cd for installing it on a macintosh powerbook g3
[08:11] <shrndegruv> is
[08:11] <shrndegruv> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl
[08:11] <shrndegruv> up to date?
[08:11] <The_Machine> :/  Package w32codecs is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:11] <variant> The_Machine: annoying
[08:11] <The_Machine> yeah.
[08:11] <variant> The_Machine: apt-cache search w32codecs
[08:11] <wwyyzzoo> i can't boot from  ubuntu's cd for installing it on a macintosh powerbook g3
[08:12] <psusi> The_Machine: pastebin your apt.conf
[08:12] <Fastly> anyone here know why the following is being run by cron every 20 mins? test -x /etc/init.d/sendmail && /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail cron-msp
[08:12] <Fastly> and how do i stop this?
[08:12] <The_Machine> psusi will do
[08:12] <TheGateKeeper> The_Machine: hang on 1 min...
[08:12] <coz_> wwyyzzoo, what model is the mac
[08:12] <The_Machine> returned nothing
[08:12] <timo90> How do i get this mutivers is it softweare?
[08:12] <The_Machine> the apt-cache search
[08:12] <variant> Fastly: edit your crontab
[08:12] <teledyn> !codecs
[08:12] <psusi> Fastly: because you installed sendmail?
[08:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:12] <TheGateKeeper> The_Machine:
[08:12] <TheGateKeeper> wget -c http://www.debian-multimedia.org/pool/main/w/w32codecs/w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[08:12] <TheGateKeeper> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20060611-0.0_i386.deb
[08:12] <Fastly> psusi, i'm running postfix now
[08:12] <The_Machine> wow :)  TheGateKeeper :)
[08:13] <Fastly> and it's now my crontab
[08:13] <coz_> wwyyzzoo, if you press and hold the "c" key down when booting can you get to thel live cd???
[08:13] <variant> The_Machine: do what TheGateKeeper sugested
[08:13] <robertj_> I read recently on a bluetooth headset that using hte microphone with a PC was not a supported configuration. Is that globally true or particular to that particular model?
[08:13] <psusi> Fastly: did you remove sendmail?
[08:13] <The_Machine> i'm apt dependant
[08:13] <The_Machine> heh
[08:13] <variant> robertj_: that model only
[08:13] <wwyyzzoo> coz_ no  i can't
[08:13] <Fastly> yes
[08:13] <robertj_> variant: what standards does it need to work?
[08:13] <psusi> The_Machine: you can also point your browser to packages.ubuntu.com
[08:13] <kyd> i need access to floppy .... n e 1 ?
[08:13] <variant> Fastly: so remove it from your crontab
[08:13] <Fastly> the email comes from: smmsp@arnie
[08:14] <coz_> wwyyzzoo, then you have anold world mac and it may be difficult, although not impossible , to install ubuntu on it
[08:14] <Fastly> (arnie is my hostname)
[08:14] <variant> Fastly: if it is running as the sendmail user you will have to remove it from that crontab
[08:14] <robertj_> variant: does ubuntu support bluetooth mics?
[08:14] <variant> !ppc
[08:14] <ubotu> ppc is PowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers, and now a fully supported Ubuntu architecture.
[08:14] <The_Machine> you mean apt.conf in /etc/apt/?
[08:14] <timo90> The "multiverse" component contains software that is "not free"
[08:15] <psusi> Fastly: sudo su smmsp then crontab -e
[08:15] <psusi> The_Machine: yea
[08:15] <coz_> ! old world mac
[08:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about old world mac - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:15] <wwyyzzoo> cos_ the  cd says tht works..
[08:15] <bimberi> !oldworld
[08:15] <ubotu> For installation on Old World PowerMacs see this URL https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OldWorldMacs
[08:15] <The_Machine> strange..  this is all i see:  Acquire::http::Proxy "false";
[08:15] <The_Machine> but apt has been working great
[08:16] <variant> The_Machine: you are behind a proxy?
[08:16] <coz_> wwyyzzoo, if you cannot boot to the live cd of ubuntu while holding down the "c" key, then you have an old worls mac and they are difficult to instal linux on
[08:16] <Fastly> it's not in that crobtab
[08:16] <The_Machine> i..  don't think so..
[08:16] <zoetrope666> ! dvd playing problems
[08:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dvd playing problems - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:16] <The_Machine> no.
[08:16] <kyd> floppy help
[08:16] <variant> The_Machine: so just download it with mozilla or whatever
[08:16] <coz_> zoetrope666, what is the problem
[08:16] <kyd> anyone ?
[08:16] <cr3> in dapper, when I plug a new usb device, lsusb and udevmonitor show activity, but there is no device created under /dev
[08:16] <teenprogrammer> whats a good console irc client?
[08:16] <The_Machine> now i'm curious about apt though
[08:16] <variant> cr3: what kind of device is it?
[08:16] <dooglus> teenprogrammer: irssi
[08:16] <psusi> Fastly: then check in /etc/cron*
[08:16] <M0E^lnx> teenprogrammer: irssi is good
[08:17] <variant> teenprogrammer: irssi is the client of gods
[08:17] <TheGateKeeper> zoetrope666: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_install_DVD_playback_capability
[08:17] <zwnj> i get this error on apache2/error.log when running a PHP page: "*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x000000000052afe0 ***"  googling, i couldn't find any solution (except suggestion about recompiling without zend-optimizer). [i'm on an amd64] 
[08:17] <teenprogrammer> ty variant
[08:17] <The_Machine> the wget that TheGateKeeper pasted is working
[08:17] <coz_> zoetrope666, do you need help with dvd palyback
[08:17] <coz_> playback
[08:17] <cr3> variant: mass storage device, an external hard drive
[08:17] <variant> teenprogrammer: you probably already have it installed
[08:17] <The_Machine> for the w32codecs - but..  why does apt.conf show that..  or..  why is it i can't seem to pull it up in apt-cache..
[08:17] <The_Machine> odd.
[08:17] <cr3> variant: it used to automount perfectly, but it doesn't seem to work anymore
[08:17] <variant> cr3: ok, thats odd
[08:17] <psusi> The_Machine: sorry, I meant your sources.list
[08:17] <neil__> cr3: do you have s10udev in rcS.d?
[08:17] <variant> cr3: what has changed on your syste?
[08:17] <The_Machine> sources.list
[08:17] <The_Machine> RIGHT
[08:17] <The_Machine> that's what it is.  brb.
[08:18] <cr3> neil__: yes, and it points to ../init.d/udev
[08:18] <coz_> wwyyzzoo, if it is indeed an old world mac then you have partition the drive and have at least mac 7.2.2 installed
[08:18] <cr3> variant: nothing, the only difference is that I unplugged the usb device a while ago and plugged it back in just now
[08:18] <The_Machine> http://pastebin.com/819900
[08:18] <The_Machine> sources.list, psusi
[08:18] <cr3> variant: don't worry, I umounted it beforehand :)
[08:19] <mnepton> cr3: are you plugging this into hypnotoad?
[08:19] <coz_> wwyyzzoo, that is 7.2.1 sorry
[08:19] <psusi> The_Machine: looks good... did you upgrade from dapper?
[08:19] <cr3> mnepton: yep, and this is not the first time it happens, udev or something is fucked
[08:19] <The_Machine> no psusi
[08:19] <The_Machine> fresh install
[08:19] <variant> cr3: when did it stop working and what were you last doing that you can remmeber?
[08:19] <mnepton> cr3: i think hypnotoad has some hald issues. i have had similar problems, and a reboot fixes it.
[08:19] <The_Machine> that old dapper line was just for..  wine or whatever..
[08:19] <The_Machine> ignore.
[08:19] <TheGateKeeper> The_Machine: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[08:19] <kyd> !floppy help ..please
[08:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about floppy help ..please - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:19] <LjL> !language | cr3
[08:19] <ubotu> cr3: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:20] <dooglus> The_Machine: there's no mention of debian-multimedia in there
[08:20] <Mavez-San> yes
[08:20] <psusi> The_Machine: sudo apt-get update ;)
[08:20] <amule__> Anyone here have some experience getting a speedtouch 120g to work?
[08:20] <TheGateKeeper> l8r folks
[08:20] <amule__> Agere Wireless USB Card Model 0801
[08:20] <The_Machine> psusi: already did
[08:20] <coz_> zoetrope666, are you getting help?
[08:20] <LjL> !ask | kyd
[08:20] <ubotu> kyd: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[08:20] <kyd> ty
[08:20] <psusi> do it again ;)
[08:20] <wwyyzzoo> cos_ it has a macos 9.1 installed but not  functionable
[08:20] <The_Machine> Fetched 760B in 2m9s (6B/s)
[08:20] <The_Machine> Reading package lists... Done
[08:20] <The_Machine> just did!
[08:20] <Mavez-San> j00buntu
[08:20] <mnepton> cr3: sadly, a hypnotoad reboot is not trivial
[08:20] <mnepton> :/
[08:20] <neil__> kyd: what's the problem with floppy?
[08:20] <Mavez-San> hypnotoad wtf sounds like a pokemon
[08:20] <cr3> variant: this has happened before where you unplug a device and then replug it later, and no device is created. it should normally create something like /dev/sdb1, but /dev/sd* only returns sda, the system's hdd
[08:21] <kyd> it wont let me mount
[08:21] <coz_> wwyyzzoo, it must be funtional to get the files into the system folders in order to get linux on the old world mac
[08:21] <LjL> !floppy | kyd
[08:21] <Mavez-San> hypnotoad i ch00ozd j00!
[08:21] <ubotu> kyd: To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[08:21] <psusi> The_Machine: wait... what package are you trying to install again?
[08:21] <The_Machine> i was trying to install w32codec and realplayer..  neither of them found
[08:21] <kyd> sweet .....thanks man
[08:21] <wwyyzzoo> cos_ i can't  get pass the login section
[08:21] <neil__> kyd:  are you in group floppy?
[08:21] <The_Machine> (by the way, installing the w32 codec didn't make the video work)
[08:21] <kyd> or woman
[08:21] <cr3> mnepton: I'm not trying to workaround the problem though, I'm trying to find a permanent fix which is why I'm asking in this channel.
[08:21] <dooglus> !info w32codecs
[08:21] <ubotu> w32codecs: win32 binary codecs. In component extras, is optional. Version 1:20060611-0.0 (edgy-seveas), package size 13911 kB, installed size 33488 kB (Only available for i386)
[08:21] <psusi> The_Machine: ahh, that's because that isn't in the official repos.. it's not free
[08:21] <kyd> neil: no
[08:21] <The_Machine> k
[08:21] <The_Machine> that's fine
[08:22] <variant> The_Machine: w32codecs is a suit of codecs, the version you downloaded might not have included real media support
[08:22] <LjL> "component extras"?
[08:22] <The_Machine> interesting.
[08:22] <The_Machine> i'll look around for stuff
[08:22] <The_Machine> thanks guys
[08:22] <neil__> kyd: that's it then. add yourself and log-out/in again
[08:22] <The_Machine> :)
[08:22] <Kyynara> Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-8762, but this X-module has the version 1.0-8776. Please make sure that the module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.
[08:22] <Jibbler> i couldn't find anything about installing 6.10 under MS Virtual PC, but i can't install it because the graphics go corrupt.  any tips?
[08:22] <cr3> mnepton: even if the problem was on my personal machine, I'd still want to find a permanent fix. this is driving me crazy and I suspect I'm not alone.
[08:22] <Kyynara> my X won't start and that is the error I got
[08:22] <kyd> aaahhhh....gotcha....ty
[08:22] <Kyynara> could someone help me
[08:22] <variant> Jibbler: ask in #microsoft
[08:22] <bimberi> LjL: that caught my eye too
[08:22] <coffeegrinds> anyone try setting up eGroupware?
[08:23] <wwyyzzoo> cos_ macos 9.1 is loading but i dont have the password so i  want to reinstall
[08:23] <mnepton> cr3: you're probably better off cheking LP and creating a bug if none exists. if one does, tell me who owns it and i'll track them down here at UDS.
[08:23] <Jibbler> variant: i figured this would be a more sensible place, seeing as the wiki has instructons on getting 6.06 to work...
[08:23] <LjL> bimberi: i'd have though the bot would say "seveas-extras" or something
[08:23] <lemon8> how to install old packages on Ubuntu 6.10
[08:23] <skreet> Anyone here using ipw3945?
[08:23] <coz_> wwyyzzoo, well if you reinstall you need to hae partitions one for mac and one for linux   hol don I am trying to find the how to
[08:23] <LjL> Kyynara: are you sure you don't need the nvidia-glx-legacy driver rather than nvidia-glx? if you're sure, then are you sure that you have universe, multiverse and restricted enabled in *all* repositories?
[08:23] <mnepton> skreet: i am. the binary blob driver should "Just Work"(tm)
[08:23] <psusi> lemon8: huh?
[08:24] <lk11mn> psusi: hello there! just a quick question for fdisk, what is the name of the swap partition filesystem... i thought there was a filesystem in fdisk called swap, but im blind i cant see it/its not there
[08:24] <variant> Jibbler: well, graphics corruption is most likley to be an issue with virtual pc rather than ubuntu.. what graphics device does virtual pc emulate?
[08:24] <mnepton> ok, must go. i'm due to review a spec.
[08:24] <Jibbler> no idea
[08:24] <Kyynara> LjL: I'll check
[08:24] <skreet> mnepton, Well, I have a module called ipw3945 and no eth1 ra0 device..
[08:24] <skreet> What blob are you referring to
[08:24] <cr3> mnepton: I've been searching LP for over 30 minutes and I have no content to log a relevant bug
[08:24] <Jibbler> but the safe mode doesn't work, either
[08:24] <wwyyzzoo> coz_ ok thanks
[08:24] <variant> lk11mn: there should be an entry for swap in the fstab
[08:24] <psusi> lk11mn: linux swap
[08:24] <coz_> wwyyzzoo, hold on
[08:24] <The_Machine> the video problem happens with CNN video too
[08:24] <The_Machine> something is jacked.
[08:24] <Spec> mnepton: come on, review me, i dare you.
[08:24] <variant> lk11mn: type free -m to see if you have any swap mounted already
[08:24] <bimberi> LjL: It's strictly correct though - http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/edgy-seveas/
[08:24] <The_Machine> i swear it worked before.
[08:25] <LjL> bimberi: well, yeah, though...
[08:25] <lk11mn> psusi: lol yeh, as i said i'm blind.. linux swap / yeh lol i see it now
[08:25] <zoetrope666> hi all
[08:25] <Honk> RAID worth it?
[08:25] <variant> !cfdisk
[08:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about cfdisk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:25] <skreet> mnepton, Where can I find this blob driver?
[08:25] <neil__> Honk: definitely
[08:25] <variant> Honk: its cool
[08:25] <psusi> lk11mn: though really the tag doesn't matter to linux... only windows bothers looking at those values
[08:26] <The_Machine> ah
[08:26] <The_Machine> wait one sec!
[08:26] <Honk> neil__, variant, What kind of arrays do you use?
[08:26] <The_Machine> i think i might have found something.
[08:26] <lk11mn> psusi: does it matter if i just create it as another primary?
[08:26] <psusi> lk11mn: you can make them all 3 primary sure...
[08:26] <neil__> Honk: RAID == peace of mind for expensive data. RAID1 with root and boot on it
[08:26] <bartek> witam
[08:26] <psusi> lk11mn: just remember that you can only have 4 primary partitions... after that, you have to use one primary slot to make an extended partition
[08:27] <psusi> neil__: only protects from disk crash, not user or filesystem error ;)
[08:27] <variant> lk11mn: if you have more than one swap partition on multiple disks you should set "pri=0" on both of them that way they will be used together and wil give you a performance boost (when swappin out that is)
[08:27] <neil__> psusi: journalling filesystems are for that :)
[08:27] <deangelo> just installed unbuntu and its my first time using linux i dled a .rar file and when i tr to open it in archive manager it syas that the file type is not supported can anyone help?
[08:27] <coz_> wwyyzzoo, ok here is one and hold on I think I have another one
[08:27] <coz_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/OldWorldMacs
[08:27] <psusi> neil__: they don't help with user error either ;)
[08:27] <variant> deangelo: apt-get install unrar unrar-free
[08:27] <Honk> Would you consider RAID 0 kind of reckless?
[08:28] <neil__> psusi: nothing helps with the stupid rm -R
[08:28] <psusi> Honk: no... I use raid0 and enjoy the speed
[08:28] <variant> neil__: what are you trying to do?
[08:28] <wwyyzzoo> coz_ , i don;t realy want  to keep the macos because it is in italian so i can.t realy work whih it
[08:28] <coz_> wwyyzzoo, and here is anotherone, you must read these carefully in order to attempt the installation    http://www.flexion.org/site/index.php?gadget=StaticPage&action=Page&id=60
[08:28] <lk11mn> variant: i have 3 disks configured in raid 0, so hopefully i'll get my performance boost that way, but thx for the tip
[08:28] <KenSentMe> !rar | deangelo
[08:28] <ubotu> deangelo: rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[08:28] <variant> lk11mn: cool
[08:28] <psusi> neil__: backups do
[08:28] <neil__> psusi: RAID1 helps with speed too
[08:28] <coz_> wwyyzzoo, if it is old world mac you have to keep mac os installed
[08:28] <psusi> neil__: only for reads, not writes
[08:28] <B-Minus_> hello
[08:28] <psusi> and not as much as raid0
[08:29] <LjL> !nickspam | mrc_001
[08:29] <ubotu> mrc_001: changing your nick in a busy channel like #ubuntu can get you removed - it causes unrequired scrolling which is unfair on new users, the same goes for using noisy away see (/msg ubotu away) for more details "/away reason" sets your client away silently, thanks
[08:29] <variant> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redundant_array_of_independent_disks
[08:29] <variant> that is quite a good description of the options
[08:29] <coz_> wwyyzzoo, as far as i know there is no way to install ubuntu on an old world mac without mac os being there first
[08:29] <neil__> psusi: true but reads generally outweigh writes
[08:29] <B-Minus_> how can i do a remote desktop on a windows pc ? my girlfriend is sitting at her home on winxp and i want to take over the screen
[08:29] <B-Minus_> anyone an idea ?
[08:29] <coz_> wwyyzzoo, sorry, blame mac for the problem
[08:29] <amule__> Speedtouch 110G PCMCIA under Edgy. Without ndiswrapper. Anyone a clue on how to get it work??
[08:29] <variant> B-Minus_: try either freenx, rdesktop or vnc
[08:29] <wwyyzzoo> coz_ :)
[08:29] <psusi> neil__: yea.. but you still get better read performance on raid0
[08:29] <coz_> wwyyzzoo,  please read thoseslinks carfully
[08:30] <variant> B-Minus_: you can connect to ms terminal server from linux box with rdesktop
[08:30] <psusi> neil__: and twice as much space
[08:30] <wwyyzzoo> coz_ , the problem is  i cannot pass the login screen
[08:30] <LjL> !info tsclient | B-Minus_
[08:30] <ubotu> tsclient: front-end for viewing of remote desktops in GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 0.148-1ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 290 kB, installed size 1044 kB
[08:30] <B-Minus_> variant: the ms terminal server ? is that default installed ?
[08:30] <neil__> psusi: but i'd rather have the resilience of RAID1. having had drive failures before
[08:30] <variant> B-Minus_: afaik, on windows it should be installed depending on what version you have
[08:31] <Honk> However RAID 1 still increases read rate, especially with SATA. Am I correct?
[08:31] <aldwin> can anyone help me how to install the flash of my firefox web browser. i had been diverted by the site http://www.youtube.com to adobeflashplayer7 site and posted a note that i should download a zip file. furtheron instructed to extract that. afterwards i tried to double click one of the file and i had this message "run on terminal" or "run". I choose them both at different times. although nothing happens. after that i did read some notes about ubuntu. and
[08:31] <psusi> neil__: that's what backups are for.... and in what?  15 years across what?  12 drives I've owned, I've never had one fail... heh...
[08:31] <coz_> wwyyzzoo, here is another one
[08:31] <Kyynara> LjL: installing the legacy drivers, it didn't help
[08:31] <coz_> wwyyzzoo, http://gonz.wordpress.com/2006/03/22/installing-ubuntu-510-breezy-badger-on-an-old-world-powerbook-g3-wallstreet/
[08:31] <neil__> Honk: for IDE too if the drives are on separate channels
[08:31] <psusi> Honk: well, there is nothing especially with sata about it, but yes, it does improve reads somewhat
[08:31] <LjL> B-Minus_, i think that's what the Remote Assistance tool in Windows XP uses, though i couldn't swear on it
[08:31] <Eruantalon> How do I enable incoming connections in mysql. I can only connect on the localhost
[08:31] <bimberi> aldwin: install Flash via Applications -> Add/Remove...  (search for flash)
[08:31] <variant> wwyyzzoo: you can install using quik
[08:31] <KenSentMe> !flash | aldwin
[08:31] <ubotu> aldwin: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:31] <Kyynara> could someone tell me a good text-based browser
[08:32] <LjL> Kyynara: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:32] <variant> wwyyzzoo: that does not require mac os to be injstalled
[08:32] <LjL> !browsers | Kyynara
[08:32] <ubotu> Kyynara: Browsers available for Linux: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), Opera (Qt, proprietary)  -  HTTP servers: apache2
[08:32] <variant> wwyyzzoo: http://penguinppc.org/bootloaders/quik/
[08:32] <Honk> Just trying to weigh my options, 640GB = 2 x 320GB or 320GB with RAID
[08:33] <Honk> Mirroring is attractive
[08:33] <aldwin> bimberi, thank you very much for your help. i'll try that. BRB (be right back). im still installing some via update. thank you very very much (again)
[08:33] <coz_> variant, thanks that is good suggestyion
[08:33] <coz_> variant, for wwyyzzoo
[08:33] <variant> coz_: yeah, its cool
[08:33] <bimberi> aldwin: yw :)
[08:33] <psusi> Honk: yea... it depends on what you place more value on... fault tolerence, or speed and space
[08:33] <MugginsM> raid striping is great *if* you have regular backups, otherwise run away screaming
[08:33] <neil__> Honk: i put LVM onto RAID1 and then everything is a LVM volume, including boot
[08:33] <coz_> variant, have you tried it?
[08:33] <variant> coz_: yep, lots of hacks and workarounds :)
[08:34] <coz_> variant,  difficult on old worls macs
[08:34] <aldwin> bimberi, is there any other way to install tarballs? (files inclucing .tar.gz or tar.bz2???
[08:34] <Coffeegrinds> anyone good at gettingphp to play nich with egroupware?
[08:34] <law_> i have a problem with my ubuntu , what tool should i use to make viedeoconferences with windows x P
[08:34] <Coffeegrinds> play nice that is
[08:34] <robertj_> law_: Ekiga
[08:34] <psusi> neil__: afaik, none of the boot loaders support /boot on LVM
[08:34] <variant> coz_: so so
[08:34] <neil__> psusi: LILO does for me
[08:34] <psusi> really?  hrm...
[08:34] <coz_> valehru, maybe I can try on my old world mac also
[08:35] <KenSentMe> Coffeegrinds: what is your problem?
[08:35] <bimberi> aldwin: you need to use the terminal for that.  However it's not recommended.  Use the package manager when you can.  What I've recommended does so.
[08:35] <RideSn> I've got a question regarding Eclipse and edgy: Eclipse worked fine for me until i upgraded to edgy from dapper. . now i a seemingly random error in eclipe when trying to run or debugg saying: "exception occured executing command line" . . and in the eclipse error log the previous line before the error says: " java.io.IOException: cannot allocate memory" I've searched the formed and googled it a fair amount and haven't seen much similar. thou
[08:35] <law_> okay when i use ekiga i make a account with a sip provider, but which tool should the windows user use ?
[08:35] <RideSn> the closes thing i can find is the bug https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/eclipse/+bug/68380 but i dont know how to apply that patch
[08:35] <Coffeegrinds> I'm just running into a snage where /var/lib/egroupware/sessions isn't writable by the webserver ,
[08:35] <variant> law_: any sip client supporting windows, try open wengo
[08:35] <variant> !wengo
[08:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wengo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <variant> !openwengo
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openwengo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <berkes__> ellow
[08:36] <Coffeegrinds> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30670/
[08:36] <KenSentMe> Coffeegrinds: if it doens't work like it should, file a bugreport on the problem
[08:36] <variant> law_: http://openwengo.com/
[08:36] <law_> !openwengo
[08:36] <berkes__> is there anything special about usermanagement in MySQL for ubuntu?
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about openwengo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <wwyyzzoo> coz_ , variant thank you both i'll try ..
[08:36] <law_> !wengo
[08:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wengo - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:36] <variant> law_: http://openwengo.com/
[08:36] <law_> !ekiga
[08:37] <ubotu> ekiga: H.323 and SIP compatible VOIP client. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 3582 kB, installed size 12568 kB
[08:37] <berkes__> I cannot get normal access set with the GRANT queries.
[08:37] <variant> law_: please note the website http://openwengo.com
[08:37] <variant> law_: there are others too
[08:37] <KenSentMe> Coffeegrinds: are you trying to install egroupware from the repo's?
[08:37] <Coffeegrinds> yup
[08:37] <teenprogrammer> join #thesoftwareJedi
[08:37] <KenSentMe> Coffeegrinds: then file a bugreport please
[08:37] <neil__> berkes__: i've not noticed anything different from other distributions
[08:38] <variant> teenprogrammer: why?
[08:38] <teenprogrammer> lol
[08:38] <teenprogrammer> i meant to type that with a slash /
[08:38] <Coffeegrinds> it's not so much of a bug as it is a configuration issue regarding permissions
[08:38] <thebluepop> Can anyone help me get my ASUS P7131 DUAL working?
[08:38] <teenprogrammer> meant to connect
[08:38] <Coffeegrinds> which should be the case as no one would want gneric access o thier server
[08:38] <volvox> hi there! is another channel more appropriate for edgy upgrade woes?
[08:39] <KenSentMe> Coffeegrinds: well, then make the file/folder writeable by www-data user
[08:39] <neil__> berkes__: what does your grant statement look like (don't paste here)
[08:39] <KenSentMe> volvox: no, this is the channel
[08:39] <volvox> ok. So it seems my amd64 box crashes upon loading libgtk2.0. Every application crashes. any hint?
[08:40] <lk11mn> psusi: K i created the partitions, and am running install,  i see 4 partitions in "select a disk" and i assume i no longer need to "manually edit partition table... so i pick the / parition, the linux one to install on, right?
[08:40] <notme> How do I make it so my second hard drive is readable by all users?
[08:40] <josh_> what is the commandline way of finding out everything i have installed and forgot about on this box?
[08:40] <josh_> there has to be a CLI similiar to synaptic
[08:40] <djuuss> I chowned /usr/ recursively for my user... sudo started bitching, so i chowned it all to root. Now i cant log in through KDE/Gnome
[08:40] <djuuss> (sorry language)
[08:40] <neil__> josh_: dpkg -l
[08:40] <notme> I have the users option turned on.
[08:40] <psusi> lk11mn: yes... but why do you ahve 4?  1 windows, 1 linux root, one linux swap should be 3?
[08:41] <josh_> lol djuuss lol ive done that
[08:41] <djuuss> I chowned /usr/ recursively for my user... sudo started to complain, so i chowned it all to root. Now i cant log in through KDE/Gnome
[08:41] <notme> josh_: aptitude
[08:41] <josh_> djuuss: still got the disk?
[08:41] <josh_> because youve pwned your system :P
[08:41] <berkes__> neil__: http://pastie.caboo.se/21803 pasted it theree
[08:41] <brum> notme: chmod -r o+x /path/of/second/hard_drive
[08:42] <lk11mn> 2 window psusi... k i get a choice to "erase entire disk" or manutally edit partiition table, manual edit only shows the disks not partitions, and if i go erase entire disk... well ill see what happens
[08:42] <cr3> when plugging a UMS, it is assigned a scsi id. why does this scsi id constantly increment even when unplugging and replugging the same UMS?
[08:42] <psusi> lk11mn: skip the partitioning step
[08:42] <psusi> UMS?
[08:42] <neil__> berkes__: that looks ok. what error do you get?
[08:42] <cr3> psusi: USB Mass Storage device
[08:43] <psusi> ahh
[08:43] <djuuss> josh: am i <censored> ?
[08:43] <djuuss> well i have a disk for 5.04  but running 6.06
[08:43] <psusi> did you unmount it before yanking it out?
[08:43] <josh_> no
[08:43] <djuuss> josh: running 6.06, got disk version 5.04
[08:43] <josh_> but if you didn't register you cant pm
[08:43] <psusi> that's why... you borked the disk
[08:43] <berkes__> neil__: I think I am being a stpd fckhead, forgot to flush privileges.
[08:43] <cr3> psusi: I thought the scsi id might be assigned by the scsi_mod kernel module, but I unloaded the module but that didn't prevent the id from incrementating starting from the last time it was mounted
[08:43] <berkes__> :?
[08:44] <lk11mn> psusi: how do i skip that stage? (btw when i continue it just goes to an error "the attempt to mount a file system with type swap in lvm vg sil_xxx3 at none failed)
[08:44] <josh_> djuuss: good... now put the disk in... reformat the disk and start over with a fresh install
[08:44] <cr3> psusi: yes, I umounted the directory before it unplugging it
[08:44] <neil__> berkes__: hehe. try phpmyadmin ;)
[08:44] <psusi> djuuss: prety much, yea.... different parts of /usr are supposed to be owned by different users.... it would probably be easier to reinstall than to figure out exactly which parts need set to whom
[08:45] <berkes__> neil__: hmm, no, flushing did not help either.
[08:45] <psusi> cr3: hrm.... strange...
[08:45] <berkes__> RROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'drupal'@'localhost' (using password: YES)
[08:45] <josh_> djuuss: i wasn't joking... ive done it before... you dont get your system back after that... unless you know all of the 400-500 file owners and have alot of time to chown
[08:45] <cr3> psusi: crap, I'm up to scsi15!
[08:45] <neil__> berkes__: have you tried connecting manually and supplying a password?
[08:45] <psusi> cr3: so?
[08:46] <berkes__> neil__: yea, that is when I get that error.
[08:46] <neil__> berkes__: is this a new mysql installation?
[08:46] <psusi> lk11mn: hrm... maybe they borked something in the installer for edgy then?  it seems to think it is lvm and that is likey causing problems... you might have to install the hard way described in the howto
[08:47] <coz_> back . can someone explain what the purpose and funtions are of /etc/mailcap?
[08:47] <berkes__> neil__: yup. I used to have an old Debian, but since edgy i went for vanilla Ubuntu.
[08:47] <aldwin> can anyone help me how to install the flash of my firefox web browser. i had been diverted by the site http://www.youtube.com to adobeflashplayer7 site and posted a note that i should download a zip file. furtheron instructed to extract that. afterwards i tried to double click one of the file and i had this message "run on terminal" or "run". I choose them both at different times. although nothing happens. after that i did read some notes about ubuntu. and
[08:47] <berkes__> suddenly I can no longet set the perms, or else I am being stoopid :)
[08:47] <KenSentMe> !flash | aldwin
[08:47] <ubotu> aldwin: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:48] <KenSentMe> aldwin: have you read that?
[08:48] <neil__> berkes__: i meant are the databases fresh or did they come from a previous system?
[08:48] <aldwin> KenSentMe, i dont get it?
[08:48] <variant> aldwin: when you go to the youtube website a bar should appear at t he top of the firefox screen, just click that bar and it will install it for you
[08:48] <phed> hi
[08:48] <KenSentMe> aldwin: don't get what?
[08:48] <phed> how can I make fish the default CLI?
[08:48] <berkes__> neil__: no, still only empty.
[08:49] <aldwin> bimberi, you told me to search add/remove.. there i type flash and nothing happens. no flash at all
[08:49] <j2daosh> whats your environment to use phish
[08:49] <variant> aldwin: do what i say
[08:49] <aldwin> KenSentMe, how can i install flash?
[08:49] <j2daosh> instead of /bin/bash
[08:49] <variant> aldwin: do what i told you, that will install it
[08:49] <KenSentMe> aldwin: check what ubotu said to you
[08:49] <berkes__> neil__: I had tonight reserved to write some import routines to import that old system :) But I cannot even get the permissions set ;)
[08:49] <variant> j2daosh: ln -sf /bin/fish /bin/sh
[08:49] <lk11mn> psusi: so yeh you think if i go ahead and manually format these partitions, and then mount them i should be able to select them during install - i'll give it a try
[08:49] <aldwin> ah okay
[08:49] <bimberi> aldwin: are you on a Mac or 64bit PC?
[08:50] <j2daosh> yeah or just link it
[08:50] <psusi> lk11mn: no... by the sound of it the installer chokes on them
[08:50] <neil__> berkes__: you might try changing the password with an update query using the PASSWORD() function
[08:50] <neil__> berkes__: or use mysqladmin
[08:50] <psusi> lk11mn: so you will have to format them, moun them, and install by hand with debootstrap
[08:50] <djuuss2> Ok so, i chowned my /usr/, then i couldnt sudo anymore. So i chowned all of /usr/ to root, and now gnome and KDE wont let me login anymore. Any hope?
[08:51] <neil__> berkes__: i've only seen this problem when i've forgotten to supply a password or given a incorrect one when connecting
[08:51] <j2daosh> djuuss2: no
[08:51] <berkes__> neil__: yea, was apt-ing that already. Its just so weird that something this simple wont Just Work
[08:51] <psusi> djuuss2: we told you not really, as you would have to reset all the ownships back to how they were before... best just to reinstall
[08:51] <djuuss2> ah yeh couldnt read it because it kept knocking me off the net -.-
[08:51] <lk11mn> psusi: uhhh... so i'll have to find a way to load dmraid in this debootsrap thingy i guess?
[08:52] <djuuss2> psusi, j2daosh, i hosed it?
[08:52] <kmaynard> i accidentally screwed my permissions once...only a re-install fixed it
[08:52] <j2daosh> yep
[08:52] <neil__> berkes__: can you connect to the test database? just to check things overall
[08:52] <djuuss2> Well at least taht gives me a good reason to get edgy
[08:52] <kmaynard> it was a gentoo system...re-emerged all the system packages, but it still never was right again
[08:52] <ipsilon> holas
[08:52] <berkes__> neil__: yes, as root it works Just Fine.
[08:53] <psusi> lk11mn: follow the instructions in the howto.... you format and mount the partition, then use debootstrap to install a minimal ubuntu system there, chroot into it, then apt-get install the core packages
[08:53] <Onni> Holla
[08:53] <neil__> berkes__: it would. root can go anywhere
[08:53] <phed> variant: uhm, you sure about that?
[08:54] <phed> variant: there is no file called /bin/fish anyway
[08:54] <lk11mn> psusi: how about this... i noticed an option before when selecting disk - it was something like "use largest continuous free space" (this was when i had just resised the ntfs part, and i had 4 gb free, do you think it could be worht trying to just delete the linux partitions and show the installer some unallocated disk space, and maybe it will work?
[08:54] <macsim> my key over my [tab]  give  how can I manage this ?
[08:54] <Stormx2> !+info asterisk
[08:54] <ubotu> asterisk: Open Source Private Branch Exchange (PBX). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.2.12.1.dfsg-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 137 kB, installed size 400 kB
[08:54] <psusi> lk11mn: no... that will try to repartition the disk
[08:54] <hume> since upgrading to Edgy, I have a broken package on my system (samba) that I cannot upgrade nor remove with synaptic. Anyone can help me in solving this problem?
[08:55] <phed> variant: and ln -sf /usr/bin/fish /bin/sh does not work either
[08:55] <psusi> lk11mn: the installer can NOT partition a dmraid disk
[08:55] <shrndegruv> guys i have an ati driver
[08:55] <shrndegruv> should i use ati or fglrx
[08:55] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Kingsqueak you there D:
[08:55] <lk11mn> psusi: it doesnt even seem to be able to install to a dmraid disk!
[08:55] <KenSentMe> !ati | shrndegruv
[08:55] <ubotu> shrndegruv: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:55] <neil__> shrndegruv: atiglx for the opensource driver
[08:55] <psusi> lk11mn: it sounds to me like it thinks the dmraid disk is an lvm volume, so it is trying to execute lvm commands on it, which fail, because it ins't
[08:55] <shrndegruv> can beryl work well on ati?
[08:56] <sc0tt> Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has the version 1.0-8762, but
[08:56] <sc0tt> this X module has the version 1.0-8776. Please make sure that the kernel
[08:56] <sc0tt> module and all NVIDIA driver components have the same version.
[08:56] <mtx1> i have ubuntu installed and it has worked before i did dist-upgrade and put kubuntu desktop on it now i get screens found but none have a usable config fatal server error anyone know what it could b
[08:56] <sc0tt> anyone else encountered this the past few days?
[08:56] <neil__> shrndegruv: what is your chipset? 9500/9600?
[08:56] <psusi> you know what... hold on a second... let me patch the dmraid package so it doesn't make the devices in /dev/mapper
[08:56] <jest> shrndegruv: Im using beryl aith the "ati" driver atm. mobility radeon 9200IGP
[08:57] <shrndegruv> m22/ radeon mobility m300
[08:57] <lk11mn> ok psusi i'll probably try that tomorrow, or maybe later on, i'll follow the how to and we'll see how it goes, thx
[08:57] <Renan_s2> !xgl
[08:57] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[08:57] <shrndegruv> laptop is 2 years old
[08:57] <mattfrye> what's the main php package in dapper called?  i can't seem to apt-get it
[08:57] <neil__> i have a 9200-based card. it won't do the raindrops thing in compiz :(
[08:57] <KenSentMe> mattfrye: php5 or php4
[08:57] <mattfrye> KenSentMe: thanks
[08:57] <SeanTater> mattfrye: for apache2, it's libapache2-mod-php5
[08:58] <KenSentMe> !lamp | mattfrye
[08:58] <ubotu> mattfrye: lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL.  For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP  -  See also the Server CD install menu.
[08:58] <mattfrye> ubotu: ok, thanks
[08:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ok, thanks - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:58] <mattfrye> ah, a bot
[08:58] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> lol
[08:58] <KenSentMe> mattfrye: yep :)
[08:58] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Im trying  to get apache to work too
[08:58] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> :p
[08:58] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> but I gotta get my wireless connection to work..
[08:59] <hume> anyone got advice on how to solve a "broken package"?
[08:59] <mattfrye> i have apache working, just setting up a wiki inside my xen
[08:59] <SeanTater> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: apache2 - internet = nothing
[08:59] <VonGuard> hello
[08:59] <SeanTater> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: :P
[08:59] <VonGuard> i have an openoffice bug
[08:59] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> lol..
[08:59] <VonGuard> where should i submit it?
[08:59] <eidos> ie open source bad as they say it is?  as a hobbyist i would like to distribute some binaries without having to give away all the source so other people could code it on windows and make millions and not give me any money for my hard work
[08:59] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> I need to get ndiswrapper to work rightm but I don't know lol
[08:59] <KenSentMe> !bug
[08:59] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/ Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[09:00] <eidos> not really millions but u know what i mean i hope
[09:00] <ubuntu__> can i install ubuntu on reiserfs ?
[09:00] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Can anyone help me get ndiswrapper and my wireless card to work together >>;
[09:00] <bimberi> ubuntu__: yes
[09:01] <kyd> can someone help me setup bt
[09:01] <SeanTater> eidos: for a start, read http://www.gnu.org/philosophy
[09:01] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Anyone here familar with ndiswrapper >>
[09:01] <KenSentMe> kyd: bt?
[09:01] <eidos> thank you
[09:01] <Risktaker> hi, a have a litle query :) is there a jigdo-file for a etgy-dvd anywhere?
[09:01] <kyd> bit torent
[09:01] <ubuntu__> bimberi: thx
[09:01] <KenSentMe> !wireless | LGKeiz-Ubuntu
[09:01] <ubotu> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:02] <Risktaker> because is have the .deb files already on my disk, and i want to burn a "backup"/install-dvd
[09:02] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> KenSentMe - I know.. I know
[09:02] <KenSentMe> !bittorrent | kyd
[09:02] <ubotu> bittorrent: Scatter-gather network file transfer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.4.2-6ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 90 kB, installed size 556 kB
[09:02] <kyd> yes
[09:03] <Farm_Fresh> wow... over 1000 in here today.
[09:04] <rapha> Hi all!
[09:04] <comstat> thats the right point, stop porting Linx-Soft to Windows, delete all Windows-Binarys on sourceforge
[09:04] <warkruid> !tor
[09:04] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[09:05] <kyd> its asking me to open location for Bit Torrent meta file
[09:05] <rapha> Can somebody help me get my scanner working please? When I press Scan Image nothing happens :-(
[09:05] <warkruid> !privoxy
[09:05] <ubotu> privoxy: Privacy enhancing HTTP Proxy. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.0.3-2-1 (edgy), package size 830 kB, installed size 2160 kB
[09:06] <kyd> ken : i am new to ubunto ......just got sick of fixing windows problems
[09:06] <kikokos> hi
[09:06] <Farm_Fresh> what can I do to make my internet activity harder to track?
[09:07] <LGKeiz-Windows> urgh
[09:07] <kikokos> i have a question: on my cousin kopmuter i want scan windows it`s possible do it from ubuntu live cd ?
[09:07] <LGKeiz-Windows> Driver Installed
[09:07] <LGKeiz-Windows> BUT
[09:07] <LGKeiz-Windows> Still no wireless networks
[09:07] <warkruid> farm_fresh use tor and privoxy
[09:07] <kikokos> if yes which applicatiojn or how ?
[09:07] <mrobbert> kikokos: Scan for what?
[09:07] <kikokos> antyvirus scan
[09:08] <kikokos> mrobbert antyvir
[09:08] <warkruid> Farm_Fresh: look for more info on tor.eff.org
[09:09] <iam8up|lpy> i'm missing this library: stdio.h - from what the general internet census says, this is a standard gcc header; can anyone tell me where to get it
[09:09] <mrobbert> kikokos: I don't use any antivirus under Linux, but I think that you can use clamav
[09:09] <SheaTara> iam8up|lpy: run this in a terminal: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:09] <iam8up|lpy> awesome! thanks
[09:09] <kikokos> mrobbert but if i dont have it it is possible install it on live cd ?
[09:10] <beta> holap..
[09:10] <SheaTara> iam8up|lpy: compiling something?
[09:10] <iam8up|lpy> SheaTara - yes
[09:10] <beta> this is in spanish or english??
[09:10] <kikokos> mrobbert it is possible install something on live cd distr by apt ?
[09:10] <SheaTara> iam8up|lpy: Read the following
[09:10] <SheaTara> !apt | iam8up|lpy
[09:10] <ubotu> iam8up|lpy: apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[09:10] <SheaTara> !build-essential | iam8up|lpy
[09:10] <ubotu> iam8up|lpy: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[09:10] <mrobbert> It is included in Ubuntu, but I'm not sure if it is on the default live CD. Anybody know if there is a list of live CD apps?
[09:11] <SomeonElse> how do i release and renew my IP?
[09:11] <SheaTara> iam8up|lpy: apt is much faster and easier, and breaks you computer much less often. It's what ubuntu was supposed ti use
[09:11] <rickyfingers> someeonElse
[09:11] <kikokos> mrobbert ok i `ll find it thankx
[09:11] <rickyfingers> r u using dhcp?
[09:11] <SomeonElse> yes
[09:11] <jest> Does anyone know if gnome sessions can be managed from a file. Lets say a want to delete a startup program in that list.
[09:11] <iam8up|lpy> kikokos - doesn't have a long list of things must have
[09:12] <mtx1> can someone help me i cant get xserver to work i get radeon no matching device section for instance (bus id.........
[09:12] <iam8up|lpy> oops, soryr kikokos
[09:12] <Farm_Fresh> warkruid:  Thanks..
[09:12] <rickyfingers> then it should be just sudo ifdown eth<whatever>
[09:12] <iam8up|lpy> SheaTara - doesn't have a long list of things must have
[09:12] <rickyfingers> then sudo ifup eth<whatever>
[09:12] <iam8up|lpy> things i must have...
[09:12] <SomeonElse> thx rickyfingers
[09:12] <iam8up|lpy> not having a great day =/
[09:12] <rickyfingers> where eth<whatever> is the name of the interface
[09:12] <warkruid> Farm_Fresh: you're welcome.
[09:12] <rickyfingers> where your internet is coming from
[09:12] <rickyfingers> do ifconfig -a
[09:12] <rickyfingers> to get a list of all interfaces currently on your system
[09:13] <rickyfingers> If you don't want to use the command line
[09:13] <rickyfingers> under administration
[09:13] <rickyfingers> -> networking
[09:13] <iter> or else do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[09:14] <rickyfingers> I  you can just deactivate/activate the interface
[09:14] <mrobbert> kikokos: If it isn't on the CD here is a HowTo for making a custom LiveCD - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization/6%2e06
[09:15] <warkruid> Farm_Fresh: after installing tor and privoxy.. edit /etc/privoxy/config. First line -> forward-socks4a / localhost:9050 .   (dont forget the .)
[09:15] <mrobbert> kikokos: It is for Dapper, but I'll bet somebody will update it for Edgy soon
[09:15] <rickyfingers> Anyone here have any luck installing edgy on a 64 bit archictecture?
[09:15] <MetaMorfoziS> !irda
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about irda - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <MetaMorfoziS> !infra
[09:15] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about infra - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:15] <MetaMorfoziS> !ir
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ir - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <tich> has anyone had problems with mplayer after installing edgy?
[09:16] <Farm_Fresh> warkruid:  thanks.. I read that.. This is a little bit beyond my skills.. but I think I'll figure it out.
[09:16] <warkruid> tich: what kind of problem?
[09:16] <MetaMorfoziS> !whyubuntuforgetstosupportnormallytheirdadevices?
[09:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about whyubuntuforgetstosupportnormallytheirdadevices? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:16] <Farm_Fresh> warkruid:  can I find tor with apt-get?
[09:16] <clearzen> Does anyone know if the via video drivers are supported in edgy??
[09:16] <warkruid> Farm_Fresh: yes
[09:17] <MetaMorfoziS> clearzen > yes
[09:17] <tich> warkruid,  i received this warning when trying play a file: error opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device.
[09:17] <Farm_Fresh> warkruid:  And how about privoxy?
[09:17] <Suspekt> hello
[09:17] <warkruid> tich: select another video device
[09:18] <Suspekt> can anyone give me a experience based report on ntfs-3g?
[09:18] <warkruid> Farm_Fresh: that one too.
[09:18] <clearzen> MetaMorfoziS: As I understand the video driver is included in the base install. However I can not get it to work for me. Could you help me to get the via driver to work?
[09:18] <Suspekt> n e one?
[09:18] <MetaMorfoziS> sorry i haven't got time for that, i'm going away, but you can find some infos on ubuntuforums.org
[09:18] <MetaMorfoziS> and one tipp:
[09:19] <mrobbert> Farm_Fresh: You can search for packages using "apt-cache search". Check the man page if you need help with it.
[09:19] <MetaMorfoziS> try edit your xorg.conf in the driver section check what you  have
[09:19] <tich> warkruid,  video does work with totem-xine, but i want mplayer to work too.
[09:19] <kmaynard> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[09:19] <MetaMorfoziS> you may need via.
[09:19] <MetaMorfoziS> btw, bye all
[09:19] <clearzen> MetaMorfoziS: I have checked. Thanks anyway
[09:19] <warkruid> tich: try -vo xvidix
[09:20] <Infecto> hi
[09:20] <Infecto> where are kernel headers in which package ?
[09:20] <Infecto> linux-headers-generic
[09:20] <Infecto> i instaled this package and :(
[09:20] <Infecto> usb.c:31:28: error: linux/compiler.h: No such file or directory
[09:21] <Suspekt> Anyone know how good ntfs-3g is?
[09:21] <tich> warkruid, use that at the prompt with the mplayer command?
[09:21] <eugman> How can I tell what my local ip is?
[09:21] <warkruid> tich: err... you are using the commandline version of mplayer?
[09:21] <rickyfingers> eugman, too easy
[09:21] <warkruid> tich: yes.
[09:21] <rickyfingers> just open a terminal window
[09:21] <rickyfingers> and type ifconfig -a
[09:21] <wwyyzzoo> vaRIANT i got the quik file now what..i's a quik-2.0-1k.ydl4.ppc.rpm file how can i use it
[09:21] <rickyfingers> that'll show you info on all your network interfaces
[09:22] <Alexa25> lol
[09:22] <tich> warkruid, no i use the regular one but to add the extra stuff i thought the prompt would be best (for testing)
[09:22] <rickyfingers> ifconfig by itself will give you the interfaces tthat are currently up
[09:22] <caseyomah> How do you change the default X Window Manager per user?
[09:22] <rambo3> how do i add more free space to my partition
[09:22] <rapha> Please?
[09:22] <rapha> Can somebody help me, please?
[09:23] <rambo3> have 5 gig  hda5 ext3 that i want to add to hda2
[09:23] <Farm_Fresh> warkruid:  alright.. I've downloaded both tor and privoxy... Now what?
[09:23] <caseyomah> rambo3: I use Partition Commander (boot sector utility)
[09:23] <rickyfingers> hey rambo
[09:23] <warkruid> tich: the command line option is -vo, but in the other there should also be a video option.
[09:23] <rambo3> hey
[09:23] <rickyfingers> one way you can do it
[09:23] <rapha> What am I doing wrong? Is anybody reading my words at all?
[09:23] <Infecto> hmmm
[09:23] <rickyfingers> is boot off a "live cd"
[09:24] <Suspekt> Anyone have any suggestions for having a 200gb raid that both Edgy and Win XP/Vista can use?
[09:24] <wwyyzzoo> coz_ can you tell me  more about the quik-2.0-1k.ydl4.ppc.rpm file?
[09:24] <rapha> Am I in the chat correctly? Hello? Does somebody hear me?
[09:24] <rickyfingers> And do gparted
[09:24] <knapp> Can someone assist me in installing the latest Nvidia drivers?
[09:24] <rambo3> !enter
[09:24] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:24] <eugman> thanks
[09:24] <Suspekt> rapha you are
[09:24] <rickyfingers> Yes, rapha, I hear you
[09:24] <caseyomah> Suspekt: Format it FAT32(vfat)
[09:24] <rickyfingers> let me look up the name of the live-cd that's good for that
[09:24] <rapha> Wow okay, thanks people :)
[09:24] <Stormx2> Yo guys. I use foobar2000 in windows. What would you recommend for me to use in ubuntu?
[09:24] <Suspekt> caseyomah, I understand windows XP has very poor performance with vfat over 64 gigs
[09:25] <rambo3> rickyfingers, dont bother thanks anyway
[09:25] <rapha> So what do I have to do to make my scanner work?
[09:25] <kmaynard> a what?
[09:25] <knapp> I am getting an error when installing them, the error is this: "Unable to find the kernel source tree for the current running kernel..."
[09:25] <djuuss2> stormx2: If your using KDE, amaroK is awsome
[09:25] <kmaynard> rapha, is it supported?
[09:25] <m0rgantosh> can someone help me? i'm getting segmentation faults when i try to run the update manager.
[09:25] <Suspekt> if you are using gnome amaroK is awsome
[09:25] <Stormx2> djuuss2: GNOME.
[09:25] <strabes> Stormx2: there's tons of great media players. foobar is quite feature-light isnt it
[09:25] <rapha> kmaynard: according to Ubuntu Forums and /etc/sane.d/canon630u.conf it is
[09:25] <wwyyzzoo> vaRIANT i got the quik file ..i's a quik-2.0-1k.ydl4.ppc.rpm file how can i use it
[09:25] <caseyomah> Suspekt: Yes, it bogs down, but it's that or use NTFS and NTFS-3G on linux to access RW.
[09:25] <rickyfingers> rapha
[09:25] <Stormx2> strabes: Thats why I like it.
[09:25] <djuuss2> :(
[09:25] <rapha> rickyfingers:
[09:25] <rickyfingers> the cd image you want is
[09:25] <rickyfingers> Inside Security
[09:26] <tich> warkruid, with the gui do i want to choose xvidix from the list of available drivers?
[09:26] <Stormx2> strabes: Very simple compact controls, big playlist area, and heaviliy customizable
[09:26] <rapha> rickyfingers: i want no cd image
[09:26] <LGKeiz-Windows> woot
[09:26] <LGKeiz-Windows> i got my network list
[09:26] <strabes> Stormx2: so you're not looking for something with the browse features of itunes?
[09:26] <LGKeiz-Windows> but when I put into my password
[09:26] <LGKeiz-Windows> it ask for my password again
[09:26] <LGKeiz-Windows> and then it doesn't connect
[09:26] <Suspekt> caseyomah, that was my original question, any experiance with NTFS-3g, especially with software RAID?
[09:26] <LGKeiz-Windows> o_o
[09:26] <tich> warkruid, i couldn't get it to go from the command line.
[09:26] <rickyfingers> OK you can use parted
[09:26] <warkruid> tich: it is a guess, but that one works for me.
[09:26] <LGKeiz-Windows> !wireless
[09:26] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:26] <caseyomah> Suspekt: Nope, I haven't messed with software RAID nor NTFS-3G in linux (yet)
[09:26] <rickyfingers> but it won't work if your root partition
[09:26] <Stormx2> strabes: oh no. Not a media library ;-)
[09:27] <rickyfingers> is on the disk you want to modify
[09:27] <rickyfingers> I highly reccomend the Inside Security disk, it's just a good tool to have around...
[09:27] <strabes> Stormx2: XMMS and BEEP are sort of like that - they're kinda like winamp
[09:27] <warkruid> tich: I have a shell script that i use as a wrapper for the mplayer binary.
[09:28] <warkruid> tich: the command line binary that is..
[09:28] <Stormx2> strabes: I've been using audacious (the non-evil beep) but meh, my days of winamp style stuff is over.
[09:28] <caseyomah> Stormx2: XMMS is even compatable with Winamp classic skins.
[09:28] <raven> join #ubuntu.pl
[09:28] <zwnj> my AMD64 (3200+) hangs one in an hour with dapper.  is it a known problem?
[09:28] <rickyfingers> here's a link to download http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=99853
[09:28] <raven> dobry wieczr wszystkim
[09:29] <rickyfingers> the cd, also someone was asking about ntfs-3g?
[09:29] <Stormx2> caseyomah: What?
[09:29] <Suspekt> caseyomah, yeah i guess im just going to have to suffer the ancient fat32 partition untill some one develops something new that both sides can play nice togetehr with
[09:29] <raven> join #ubuntu.pl
[09:29] <macdo_> my external usb harddrive isn't being recognised after upgrade to 6.10
[09:29] <Suspekt> rickyfingers, yes me
[09:29] <rickyfingers> I don't know much about it, but this bootable cd has support for that protocol/filesystem
[09:29] <macdo_> help...
[09:29] <Stormx2> Guys my apt is broken. Gimme a min.
[09:29] <Suspekt> rickyfingers, i want to know if it works with software raid
[09:29] <rickyfingers> So suspekt, if you wanted to play with it some
[09:29] <caseyomah> Suspekt: I heard rumors of Win32 support for NFS... But I haven't found evidence of it's existing.
[09:29] <rickyfingers> You could download that bootable cd and see how performance is
[09:30] <Stormx2> NFS?
[09:30] <caseyomah> Stormx2: Network File System.
[09:30] <Suspekt> caseyomah, i find its far easyer to add linux support for a FS than it is to add NT support to a FS
[09:30] <wwyyzzoo> vaRIANT i got the quik file ..i's a quik-2.0-1k.ydl4.ppc.rpm file how can i use it
[09:30] <wwyyzzoo> coz_ can you tell me  more about the quik-2.0-1k.ydl4.ppc.rpm file?
[09:30] <rickyfingers> I think you can already do NFS in windows with cygwin
[09:30] <rapha> kmaynard: It is a Canon Canoscan 630U
[09:30] <rickyfingers> Yes, you can. I remember now.
[09:30] <caseyomah> rickyfingers: I haven't played with CygWin.
[09:30] <strabes> Stormx2: quodlibet isn't bad. it's very lightweight.
[09:30] <rickyfingers> You can run an nfs server in cygwin
[09:31] <LjL> Suspekt: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324055 (client) http://opensource.franz.com/nfs/ (server)
[09:31] <rickyfingers> that's another thing everyone should check out
[09:31] <rickyfingers> http://cygwin.com
[09:31] <kmaynard> rapha, i dunno...google and the forums are the best i can do. i have a visioneer that's useless
[09:31] <caseyomah> Suspekt: Looks like NFS is the "friendly" way to go.
[09:31] <strabes> Stormx2: not very many features but that's how i like it at least.
[09:31] <dfgas_> how do i reconfigure X?
[09:31] <rickyfingers> Cygwin even has a utility where you can start the nfsd as a windows service
[09:31] <psusi> NFS is bad, M'kay?
[09:31] <sol90> hi just wondering ... where is the subversion package? I tried installing it but didn't work
[09:31] <LjL> dfgas_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:32] <rickyfingers> I agree, it's a hole
[09:32] <rickyfingers> *NFS is a whole
[09:32] <LjL> !info subversion | sol90
[09:32] <Farm_Fresh> warkruid:  I've done it all.. How do I restart privoxy?  I didn't know it was even running?
[09:32] <ubotu> subversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.2-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 203 kB, installed size 3020 kB
[09:32] <rickyfingers> but we make trade offs
[09:32] <rickyfingers> depending on project requirements
[09:32] <sol90> LjL sorry I don't understand?
[09:32] <rickyfingers> me, I'm happy just using sftp, scp, & friends.
[09:32] <LjL> sol90, well you asked where it is, and it's in main
[09:33] <rickyfingers> Farm_Fres
[09:33] <rickyfingers> ps -ef | grep -i privoxy
[09:33] <fangorious> how do I read man or info pages in gnome-help?
[09:33] <sol90> LjL - i typed sudo apt-get install subversion
[09:33] <psusi> sol90: the package name is just svn
[09:33] <psusi> I think
[09:33] <Farm_Fresh> rickyfingers:  was that for me?  And what will that do?
[09:33] <rapha> kmaynard: google and forums bring up that the scanner works fine when xsane is run as root. That was the case for me under Dapper as well. Just now, under Edgy it won
[09:33] <LjL> psusi, no
[09:33] <rapha> 't
[09:33] <shrndegruv> guys how do i search for a pakcage?
[09:33] <LjL> sol90, and?
[09:33] <warkruid> Farm_Fresh: sudo -i <password> then do a ps -ef and look for the pid of privoxy. Then do kill -HUP <pid>
[09:33] <psusi> maybe not...
[09:34] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell shrndegruv about packages
[09:34] <fangorious> shrndegruv: apt-cache search <keyword>
[09:34] <LjL> !info svn | psusi
[09:34] <ubotu> Package svn does not exist in any distro I know
[09:34] <Stormx2> No!
[09:34] <sol90> LjL -  i got the "Package subversion is not available" msg
[09:34] <Stormx2> You gotta install "subversion"
[09:34] <LjL> sol90: do you have internet repositories enabled?
[09:34] <sol90> Stormx2 - yes.. but it won't let me
[09:34] <Stormx2> !info subversion
[09:34] <LjL> Stormx2, read above
[09:34] <sol90> LjL - how do I find out if it's enabled?
[09:34] <ubotu> subversion: advanced version control system (aka. svn). In component main, is optional. Version 1.3.2-3ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 203 kB, installed size 3020 kB
[09:34] <Stormx2> o.o
[09:34] <Stormx2> hmm
[09:34] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell sol90 about repos
[09:35] <warkruid> Farm_Fresh: Then you have to reconfigure firefox to use privoxy.
[09:35] <LjL> sol90: you can put your /etc/apt/sources.list into the pastebin so i can check, if you prefer
[09:35] <shrndegruv> sorry ubuntu newb
[09:35] <Farm_Fresh> warkruid:  I installed the recomended button or whatever for firefox.
[09:35] <LjL> Stormx2, i bet he only has the CD repository enabled
[09:35] <Stormx2> LjL: mhmm.
[09:35] <Farm_Fresh> wouldn't a restart just do the same as this?
[09:35] <warkruid> Farm_Fresh: excellent!
[09:35] <dnite> does anyone know how to set a dcc port range in BitchX ?? I found a way to force a certain port.. but I don't seem to be able to set a range ...
[09:36] <sol90> LjL - this is embarrasing.. how do I use the pastebin?
[09:36] <LjL> !pastebin | sol90
[09:36] <ubotu> sol90: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:36] <LjL> sol90: just paste and give me the URL
[09:36] <salah_> hello. how do I fix the screen resolution?
[09:36] <warkruid> Farm_Fresh: be warned tough. The connection can be ssssllloowwww
[09:36] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell salah_ about fixres
[09:36] <rickyfingers> salah - xorg.conf
[09:36] <shrndegruv> thanx
[09:36] <Stormx2> salah_: Fix it?
[09:36] <rickyfingers> man xorg.conf
[09:36] <rickyfingers> for more info
[09:36] <Farm_Fresh> warkruid:  oh..
[09:36] <slinky_> hello folks, I lost my sound card and now I am forced to use the integrated sound on the mother board, is there anyway to remove everything associated with sound and restart over without having to do a complete reinstall?
[09:37] <LjL> rickyfingers: or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, for that matter
[09:37] <Stormx2> slinky_: o.o how did you lose it?
[09:37] <caseyomah> How do I change a users decault X Window Manager? (Gnome/KDE/XFce...)
[09:37] <caseyomah> default*
[09:37] <slinky_> Stormx2: it fried
[09:37] <sol90> LjL - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30674/
[09:37] <rickyfingers> slinky, you may just be able to disable the onboard sound
[09:37] <rickyfingers> in the bios
[09:38] <LjL> sol90: you don't have anything enabled. hold on
[09:38] <rickyfingers> but if you fried the card...
[09:38] <LjL> sol90: also, are you aware that breezy is a bit dated (though still supported for 5 months)?
[09:38] <sol90> LjL - yep i'm aware of that
[09:39] <slinky_> rickyfingers: I have onboard sound working but there is so much stuff installed for the sound blaster live that it is interfering with the onboard sound
[09:39] <Alexa25> okay
[09:39] <j2daosh> is edgy stable yet?
[09:39] <Alexa25> question
[09:39] <Farm_Fresh> warkruid:  So if I have the green Tor Enabled... it's up and running?
[09:39] <Alexa25> I tried updating using what they said
[09:39] <Alexa25> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades#head-7e4d0a8850f88d770c9e373ca84c3a78703a58ad
[09:39] <Alexa25> there
[09:39] <Alexa25> but when I do that, it says no updates are available
[09:39] <warkruid> tich: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30675/
[09:40] <j2daosh> does the edgy update knock out all the old apps?
[09:40] <LjL> sol90: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30676/ <- i've also enabled universe and multiverse, and removed the CD repository
[09:40] <LjL> sol90: type "sudo apt-get update" after changing the sources.list file
[09:40] <j2daosh> make it as base system i have to reinstall everyone on again?
[09:40] <j2daosh> s/everyone/everything
[09:41] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell j2daosh about upgrade
[09:41] <pcgigabyte> Hello could someone help me. I can't get my mic working in Ubuntu?
[09:41] <LjL> j2daosh: your applications will still be there after an upgrade.
[09:41] <sol90> LjL - http://www.macewan.org/2006/02/23/upgrading-breezy-to-dapper/  <-- is this reliable?
[09:41] <LjL> and edgy is released, yes
[09:41] <caseyomah> j2daosh: The live cd install is more stable then the repository dist-upgrade (in my experience)
[09:41] <sol90> LjL - ... to upgrade to dapper, i mean
[09:41] <salah_> thanks, fixed now
[09:41] <LjL> !upgrade | sol90, i don't know, i'd follow the official docs
[09:41] <ubotu> sol90, i don't know, i'd follow the official docs: For upgrading, see instructions at: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes (you can also find this in the channel topic: type "/topic")  -  See also !downgrade
[09:42] <j2daosh> dont have the live cd
[09:42] <warkruid> Farm_Fresh: yes, but to test it you should follow the testlink on tor.eff.org. don't now exactly what it was.. moment..
[09:42] <slinky_> rickyfingers: any ideas?
[09:42] <j2daosh> i still got the dapper one
[09:42] <sol90> LjL - thanks for all the help..
[09:42] <LjL> j2daosh: you normally upgrade from the internet
[09:42] <j2daosh> what are the bennies of updating?>
[09:42] <pcgigabyte> hey could someone help me. I can get my mic working in Ubuntu?
[09:42] <caseyomah> j2daosh: You can just download it.
[09:42] <salah_> Ubotu, please tell salah_ about firefox
[09:42] <rickyfingers> slinky - I forget
[09:42] <rickyfingers> ideas on what
[09:43] <caseyomah> j2daosh: New mount functionalities, and a few other things. a M$ style load screen (no debug info)
[09:43] <slinky_> rickyfingers: any way to completely remove sound associated stuff and start over without doing a full reinstall
[09:43] <tuskernini> !firefox
[09:43] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[09:43] <rickyfingers> well, first of all there's drivers
[09:44] <pcgigabyte> Could someone tell me how to get my microphone to work?
[09:44] <rickyfingers> modprobe -;
[09:44] <rickyfingers> modprobe -l i mean
[09:44] <rickyfingers> modprobe -l | less
[09:44] <caseyomah> pcgigabyte: Plug it in?
[09:44] <livingtm> does anyone have the flash9 beta running in edgy64?
[09:44] <tuskernini> I updated to edgy, but have problems in flash... so now i use dapper on another partition again...
[09:44] <rickyfingers> would probably be better
[09:44] <knapp> What is the correct package name for kernel headers for kernel 2.6*
[09:44] <knapp> ?
[09:44] <rickyfingers> that'll show you what sound card driver you have installed currently
[09:44] <pcgigabyte> it is plugged int. I can hear it back through the speakers. Just no program will pick it up not even sound recorder
[09:45] <rickyfingers> then, do lspic
[09:45] <rickyfingers> i mean lspci
[09:45] <livingtm> i went through instructions to install flash9 beta, but firefox doesnt seem to detect it. pages still tell me i need the plugin
[09:45] <caseyomah> Do you have it selected for recording?
[09:45] <rickyfingers> that'll show you the exact name of your soundcard
[09:45] <Corbo> hello
[09:45] <rickyfingers> then remove the driver for your current sound card (the on board one)
[09:45] <LjL> knapp: linux-headers-generic should do
[09:45] <rickyfingers> and modprobe the right one
[09:45] <livingtm> yeahyeah
[09:46] <rickyfingers> I'm doing a lot of hand-waving here..
[09:46] <pcgigabyte> what do you mean modprobe the right one/please explain?
[09:46] <pcgigabyte> like example
[09:46] <rickyfingers> pcigigabyte
[09:46] <Corbo> when I try to install network-manager-pptp I get "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libatk1.0-0" - can someone help me?
[09:46] <rickyfingers> I was referring to slink
[09:46] <slinky_> rickyfingers: writing it all down :)
[09:46] <rickyfingers> y's question about a sound card
[09:46] <Alexa25> (15:45:18) livingtm: i went through instructions to install flash9 beta, but firefox doesnt seem to detect it. pages still tell me i need the plugin <<--i have the same problem
[09:46] <pcgigabyte> Oh well I found out what sound board I have. Now what do I do?
[09:46] <knapp> q
[09:46] <pcgigabyte> i did that lspci thing
[09:46] <Megaqwerty> Does anyone know when the new version of gaim is going to be in the repositories?
[09:47] <livingtm> Alexa25, hmm amd64?
[09:47] <caseyomah> pcgigabyte: There's a capture tab and a capture button below each audio input device.
[09:47] <pcgigabyte> capture tab
[09:47] <pcgigabyte> You mean in voulume control?
[09:47] <caseyomah> pcgigabyte: Yup.
[09:47] <LjL> Megaqwerty, it'll never be in the standard edgy repositories.
[09:47] <warkruid> Farm_Fresh: http://serifos.eecs.harvard.edu/cgi-bin/ipaddr.pl?tor=1 or ipd.shat.net
[09:47] <knapp> What is the correct package name for kernel headers for kernel 2.6*?
[09:47] <pcgigabyte> okay under mic it is set to volume icon x and mic icon no x
[09:47] <LjL> knapp: i just answered
[09:47] <Corbo> when I try to install network-manager-pptp I get "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libatk1.0-0" - can someone help me?
[09:47] <ptr> Alexa25: where are those inctructions for amd64?
[09:48] <slinky_> rickyfingers: isthat it for now?
[09:48] <tsole1> hi
[09:48] <Megaqwerty> LjL: okay, so I have to use gksu "update-manager -c" ?
[09:48] <knapp> LjL I didn't see, can you repeat it?
[09:48] <Suspekt> Question: If i have Firefox 64bit i cannot use flash, but if i also install swiftfox 32bit, would that have flash support?
[09:48] <caseyomah> pcgigabyte: On the right icon of the two?
[09:48] <tsole1> hey guys iv got one question
[09:48] <LjL> Megaqwerty: ...? yeah, in six months though. now the latest version available is edgy
[09:48] <rickyfingers> once you do the lspci do the modprobe -l | less
[09:48] <LjL> knapp: linux-headers-generic should do
[09:48] <Megaqwerty> oh, ok, thanks
[09:48] <knapp> Thanks LjL
[09:48] <LGKeiz-Windows> Hey guys I got a network list now, for my wireless device but it's not accepting my password, my driver unloads everytime I reboot, any idea what is wrong?
[09:48] <rickyfingers> and look for a module that matches your sound card
[09:49] <pcgigabyte> Okay right below the microphone icon in ubuntu volume control. On the little speaker icon there is a red x. On the little microphone icon there is no x.
[09:49] <Farm_Fresh> warkruid:  Thanks.. whats the deal with running a server?  I do have some spar bandwidth.
[09:49] <tsole1> can anyone answer?
[09:49] <LGKeiz-Windows> Hey guys I got a network list now, for my wireless device but it's not accepting my password, my driver unloads everytime I reboot, any idea what is wrong?
[09:49] <slinky_> rickyfingers: following :)
[09:49] <Corbo> anyone feeling helpful?
[09:49] <LjL> !ask | tsole1, corbo
[09:49] <ubotu> tsole1, corbo: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:49] <caseyomah> pcgigabyte: Well, that's as far as I go with that.
[09:49] <rickyfingers> LGK, /etc/modules
[09:49] <tsole1> ok
[09:49] <pcgigabyte> Well how come it wouldn't be working in any program?
[09:49] <Corbo> ubotu: when I try to install network-manager-pptp I get "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libatk1.0-0" - can someone help me?
[09:49] <rickyfingers> add the module for your wireless nic
[09:50] <knapp> LjL that package isn't in the main? repository. Do you know where I can find it?
[09:50] <rickyfingers> and it'll get loaded at boot time
[09:50] <LGKeiz-Windows> rickyfingers - how?
[09:50] <tsole1> why  sometimes a cann see my network computer and sometimes not?
[09:50] <LGKeiz-Windows> Im new to nix lol
[09:50] <rickyfingers> ok, you open a terminal window
[09:50] <LjL> !info linux-headers-generic | knapp
[09:50] <ubotu> linux-headers-generic: Generic Linux kernel headers. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.17.10 (edgy), package size 23 kB, installed size 52 kB
[09:50] <Vuen> hey all. i'm trying to checkout the tcl source from cvs and it's not working. here's the command i'm using:
[09:50] <brum> 14-1168087664.dsl.bell.ca]  has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 
[09:50] <Vuen> cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/tcl login
[09:50] <brum> 12:38 -!- incorrect [n=fwest@193.82.117.250]  has quit ["Leaving"] 
[09:50] <brum> 12:38 -!- inimesekene_ [n=inimesek@80-235-71-48-dsl.trt.estpak.ee]  has quit [Remote closed the connection] 
[09:50] <Vuen> and here's the error i get:
[09:50] <brum> 12:38 < otacon22_> i have download and tryed it now
[09:50] <rickyfingers> then do cd /etc
[09:50] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell brum about paste
[09:50] <rickyfingers> then sudo vi modules
[09:50] <Vuen> cvs [login aborted] : connect to cvs.sourceforge.net(66.35.250.207):2401 failed: No route to host
[09:50] <dimaka> hello amigos
[09:50] <Vuen> anyone know what's going on?
[09:50] <rickyfingers> you might actaully want to do sudo gedit modules
[09:51] <tuskernini> pcgigabyte, do you have a mic boost on?
[09:51] <dimaka> how are you here?
[09:51] <psusi> lk11mn: you around?
[09:51] <rickyfingers> if you're not comfortable with vi
[09:51] <LGKeiz-Windows> uhm okay
[09:51] <LGKeiz-Windows> hold on
[09:51] <pcgigabyte> yes
[09:51] <Corbo> has anyone here setup network-manager-pptp ?
[09:51] <rickyfingers> then on the bottom line
[09:51] <rickyfingers> of the file,
[09:51] <Vuen> argh. this channel is way too busy
[09:51] <rickyfingers> type in the name of the module for your wnic
[09:51] <pcgigabyte> Yes. I have mic boost on.
[09:51] <warkruid> Farm_Fresh: check out the mailinglists. Basically you can assign some of your bandwidth to the server. Be warned tough it could get your ip adress banned by some networks.
[09:51] <LGKeiz-Windows> ricky - sudo gedit what path?
[09:52] <rickyfingers> sudo gedit /etc/modules
[09:52] <tsole1> can i see from ubuntu my scanner which is on my network?
[09:52] <slinky_> thank you rickyfingers
[09:52] <rickyfingers> no problem slink
[09:52] <LGKeiz-Windows> and I add the module name
[09:52] <lk11mn> psusi:  just back from the shower
[09:52] <LGKeiz-Windows> which is in ndiswrapper -l ?
[09:53] <rickyfingers> now you're good to go, as far as having the module be loaded when you reboot
[09:53] <LGKeiz-Windows> >.> ddo i?
[09:53] <rickyfingers> But now, you've got password problems
[09:53] <LGKeiz-Windows> add that name
[09:53] <LGKeiz-Windows> Lol
[09:53] <psusi> lk11mn: I just uploaded a new package to the bug report... try that
[09:53] <fd0man> Does anyone have any experience with Edgy and the i810 X driver and dual-head configurations actually working?
[09:53] <rickyfingers> so there's still more work to be done
[09:53] <LGKeiz-Windows> rickyfingers: I add the name in iwconfig -l ?
[09:53] <Wanderer> Anyone using skype or similar voip for business needs?
[09:53] <knapp> q
[09:53] <LGKeiz-Windows> err
[09:53] <LGKeiz-Windows> ndiswrapper *(
[09:53] <lk11mn> psusi: what's it do?
[09:53] <bennyk97> wassup?
[09:53] <Farm_Fresh> warkruid:  why would that be?
[09:53] <psusi> lk11mn: if I did it right, it should make the devices just in /dev instead of /dev/mapper, and I think that will keep the installer from getting confused and thinking they are lvm volumes
[09:54] <rickyfingers> I don't follow
[09:54] <macdo_> How can I mount an external HD via USb when it's not recognised?
[09:54] <lk11mn> psusi: oh that'd be really cool, thx
[09:54] <rickyfingers> LKG, do you mean putting in the SSID
[09:54] <rickyfingers> that's iwconfig wlan0 essid whatever-your-ssid is
[09:54] <macdo_> it used to do it automatically under Dapper, but not apparently with edgy...
[09:54] <beau> anyone ever had problemsgetting grub working dual booting with windows, it will only boottowindows
[09:54] <LGKeiz-Windows> rickyfingers: lol.. I use network-manager
[09:55] <LGKeiz-Windows> rickyfingers: I don't know why i's not accepting my password
[09:55] <LGKeiz-Windows> rickyfingers: I know it's the right password
[09:55] <gyaresu> macdo_, Make it become  recognised. Do 'tail -f   /var/log/messages' and stick the drive in (only use the back usb ports at the moment)
[09:55] <LGKeiz-Windows> It works with my windows system
[09:55] <Nuked> I am currently running edgy, and I want to install the latest version of abiword 2.4.6, but if I remove 2.4.5 so many other things are removed with it, like xfprint4 libchewing3-data libgoffice-gtk-0-3 libgoffice-0-common anthy... Is this a cause for concern?
[09:55] <warkruid> Farm_Fresh: When they think some abuse (think massive leeching) comes from your ipadres they could ban it
[09:55] <rickyfingers> LKG I never really used the gui to do wireless stuff
[09:55] <rickyfingers> So I can't really speak from experience
[09:55] <Farm_Fresh> warkruid:  ah ha.
[09:55] <rickyfingers> Is the password for like a pptp or pppoe connection?
[09:56] <rickyfingers> Anyway there's another thing
[09:56] <warkruid> Farm_Fresh: So configure carefully!
[09:56] <gyaresu> macdo_, after you plug it in 'dmesg' should have 'sdd1' or sda1 or something.
[09:56] <LGKeiz-Windows> It's still not loading the module...
[09:56] <rickyfingers> I don't know if Linux has support for wpa or now
[09:56] <Nchalada> mornin
[09:56] <LGKeiz-Windows> what do I put in /etc/modules/ ?
[09:56] <LGKeiz-Windows> the module name in ndiswrapper -l ?
[09:56] <rickyfingers> OK, LKG here's what you need to do
[09:56] <LGKeiz-Windows> or driver
[09:56] <LGKeiz-Windows> lol
[09:56] <rickyfingers> module=driver in linux
[09:57] <rickyfingers> the module is just ndiswrapper
[09:57] <rickyfingers> if you know ndiswrapper works for your wnic
[09:57] <caseyomah> How do I change a user's default window manager in X?
[09:57] <skreet> anyone know how to switch between open buffers in nano?
[09:57] <LGKeiz-Windows> Because when I do ndiswrapper -l It said the driver is installed and present.. I put the driver name in the thing you told me to, rebooted, and it's not loaded
[09:57] <rickyfingers> just put ndiswrapper on the last line of /etc/modules
[09:57] <LGKeiz-Windows> o_o;
[09:57] <rickyfingers> if you type lsmod at the command prompt
[09:57] <rickyfingers> you should see ndiswrapper listed
[09:58] <rickyfingers> do lsmod | less to page through the list of modules one screen at a time
[09:58] <rickyfingers> if you've got a lot of modules
[09:58] <tsole1> hey can i see from ubuntu a scanner thats on my network or not?
[09:58] <Kannix> Hi all
[09:58] <rickyfingers> if you don't see it there, then it aint really loaded
[09:58] <macdo_> gyaresu, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30678/ is the output from dmesg
[09:58] <LjL> tsole1, how's the scanner shared?
[09:58] <rickyfingers> did you do modprobe ndiswrapper?
[09:58] <LGKeiz-Windows> rickyfingers do i put ndiswrapper in /etc/modules ?
[09:58] <tsole1> its not shared
[09:58] <LGKeiz-Windows> so **
[09:59] <dado_> hi
[09:59] <macdo_> it's kicking out errors
[09:59] <rickyfingers> yes, just put that one word ndiswrapper
[09:59] <tsole1> is it a way that i cann share a scanner?
[09:59] <rickyfingers> on a line by itself in /etc/modules
[09:59] <dado_> do you have a talking bot here?
[09:59] <LjL> tsole1: if it's connected to a Windows machine, i doubt you can share it
[09:59] <Farm_Fresh> warkruid:  well thanks for the help. I'm off to work.  Good bye.
[09:59] <Nuked> anyone willing to answer the question I posted earlier?
[09:59] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell dado_ about bot
[09:59] <tsole1> it is connected to windows
[09:59] <LGKeiz-Windows> rickyfingers: k rebooting, what about the password problem?
[10:00] <rickyfingers> Well, I need some more details
[10:00] <LjL> Nuked, yes, i'd find it a cause of concern personally
[10:00] <tsole1> it is on windows which are on the network
[10:00] <LGKeiz-Windows> sec
[10:00] <LjL> tsole1, i don't think Windows provides any way to share a scanner.
[10:00] <shrndegruv> ok im freaking out
[10:00] <gyaresu> macdo_, Right. Doesn't like it.
[10:00] <jest> I cant login to a user. I need to remove a line from the startup in the session manager. Anyone know were I can find that file?
[10:00] <rickyfingers> LkG
[10:00] <LGKeiz-Windows> what kind of details?
[10:01] <shrndegruv> i followed http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Xgl.2FBeryl_.28ATI.29
[10:01] <caseyomah> tsole1: Unless your Windows driver for the scanner has sharing capabilities you can't share it.
[10:01] <rickyfingers> The thing is, at the wireless layer of the network
[10:01] <shrndegruv> which sets up a separate xsession for xgl
[10:01] <Nuked> LjL, basically it wants to remove xubuntu-desktop. Can I just compile abiword and install it with checkinstall? will everything be ok
[10:01] <Nuked> ?
[10:01] <shrndegruv> which doesnt work
[10:01] <shrndegruv> but
[10:01] <grzelsyn> Hi. I add new user to ubuntu dapper system, but this new user could not open/initialize sound device, therefore he can't play music. What should I do to let him to use this device?
[10:01] <shrndegruv> when i say log in to gnome
[10:01] <Jon335> I'm having problems printing on Edgy, can anyone help?
[10:01] <shrndegruv> beryl and all features work fine
[10:01] <shrndegruv> on an old laptop
[10:01] <rickyfingers> Wait, wait...I'm remembering in windows, there's an authentication
[10:01] <Nuked> Jon335, what printer?
[10:01] <macdo_> gyaresu, no, it doesn't. And I don't know why. Ironically; it has all my pre-upgrade backups on it... not good news
[10:01] <Kannix> Did anybody here ever get the Spamfilter built in to Evolution to work?
[10:01] <rickyfingers> thing on the control for the wireless network connection
[10:02] <LjL> !ubuntu-desktop | nuked, that package being removed is not a cause of concern - *other* packages being removed might be
[10:02] <fifth> hi all, i'm having dependency probs installing gdeb on edgy, is this a normal edgy problem or something borked on my system?
[10:02] <shwag> how come when I   sudo useradd newuser  .... it doesnt create a  /home/newuser  ???
[10:02] <gyaresu> macdo_, HDD is it? Powered?
[10:02] <LGKeiz-Windows> rickyfingers - iwlist eth1 scan is picking up network sand all that it's just not accepting my password..
[10:02] <LGKeiz-Windows> hmm
[10:02] <lk11mn_> psusi: i'm guessing i should have deactivated the partitions in /dev/mapper/ BEFORE i upgraded to your dmraid
[10:02] <LjL> Nuked, i can't tell either way. i'd just keep 2.4.5, installing something like that is never quite safe
[10:02] <gyaresu> grzelsyn, try gpasswd
[10:02] <Jon335> Nuked: I have two, a Brother MFC-210C, and a Canon PIXMA iP1500
[10:02] <tsole1> if i install ubuntu on the macine that now ive got windows will i be able to share then?
[10:02] <rickyfingers> OK, what kind of wireless connection are you using
[10:02] <LjL> !ubuntu-desktop | nuked
[10:02] <ubotu> nuked: k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[10:02] <psusi> lk11mn_: heh... probably ;)
[10:02] <rickyfingers> Is it to an ISP or is it just to a router in your lan
[10:03] <macdo_> gyaresu, yeah, a IDE HD in a box, powered, even ventilated
[10:03] <gyaresu> grzelsyn, Shouldn't need to but... 'su newuser' then 'groups' they should be in the audio group.
[10:03] <Jon335> Nuked: They both just say receiving dadta and don't print.
[10:03] <LGKeiz-Windows> it's from my laptop to my router
[10:03] <verboxx> hi! this may be a noob question, but can I login as root to a Gnome Session?
[10:03] <LjL> verboxx: don't.
[10:03] <lk11mn> eh?
[10:03] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell verboxx about root
[10:03] <gyaresu> verbose, yes. but ^^
[10:03] <psusi> !root | verboxx
[10:03] <ubotu> verboxx: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:03] <rBlong2us> hi I have horizontal jumping on my screen what kinda values could I pass the Xorg in order fix this for an LCD
[10:03] <timo90> How do i set up the Route for inter net connection shearing on ubuntu
[10:04] <rickyfingers> I'd look at the configuration options
[10:04] <rickyfingers> in your router
[10:04] <rBlong2us> what are save values?
[10:04] <rickyfingers> find out exactly what protocol it's using to do the authentication
[10:04] <shwag> how come when I   sudo useradd newuser  .... it doesnt create a  /home/newuser  ???
[10:04] <Nuked> Jon335, I have the same problem with my pixma. I can't help you with the brother printer though
[10:04] <verboxx> and can I create a user with all the root privileges??
[10:04] <tich> to stream video the restricted format wiki suggests installing the totem-xine-firefox-plugin but it does exist.  how do i stream video?
[10:04] <rickyfingers> or....change the security settings in your router
[10:04] <LjL> verboxx: why?
[10:04] <gyaresu> rBlong2us, how bad is the jumping (totally unreadable?)
[10:04] <shwag> verboxx: just edit them into all the needed groups in /etc/groups
[10:04] <psusi> verboxx: no... you prefix commands that require root permissions with sudo
[10:04] <shwag> verboxx: do you know how to get a users home directory created ?
[10:05] <Jon335> It does it for both printers, there must be something wrong with CUPs, right?
[10:05] <tich> to stream video the restricted format wiki suggests installing the totem-xine-firefox-plugin but it does NOT exist.  how do i stream video?
[10:05] <rickyfingers> I'm not even sure iwconfig supports wpa encryption
[10:05] <gyaresu> shwag, verboxx 'gpasswd' for adding users to groups.
[10:05] <grzelsyn> gyaresu: I don't exactly understand what should I do... I think to log to this new user and what next? What does it mean 'groups'? Do you mean some command or file or something?
[10:05] <rickyfingers> ok just googled
[10:05] <verboxx> LjL: I access a server via VNC but I must login before I can move things around
[10:05] <rBlong2us> gyaresu: not totally I am reagin right now and using it but higly annoying enough to scare people away and tell me how a piece of shit linux is and that they wanna go back to m$$
[10:05] <rickyfingers> yes, ubuntu does have some support for wpa
[10:06] <rBlong2us> so I need to fix this for linuk's sake
[10:06] <rickyfingers> http://www.itlabs.umn.edu/help/network/wireless-linux-wpa.php
[10:06] <shwag> gyaresu: verboxx: wrong...gpasswd is for change a groups passwd.  addgroup is for adding to groups
[10:06] <verboxx> but I can't use nautilus as root and I hate terminal :)
[10:06] <rickyfingers> but I've never used it
[10:06] <LjL> verboxx: ok, why do you need a root account to login in, still?
[10:06] <rickyfingers> I'm pretty comfortable with 128 bit wep key
[10:06] <gyaresu> rBlong2us, try xp without knowing you need Nvidia drivers etc.
[10:06] <LGKeiz-Windows> rickyfinger - It's WEP
[10:06] <rickyfingers> but then again, I'm lazy
[10:06] <foreverdaed> im having some serious problems trying to get my ubuntu install to boot, even super grub cd isnt helping me
[10:06] <rickyfingers> OK if it's WEP
[10:06] <shwag> verboxx: if you hate terminal then get off of linux.
[10:06] <rickyfingers> that's easy
[10:06] <LGKeiz-Windows> my password is 6183261832 which I entered
[10:06] <lk11mn> psusi: i guess reboot is the best option at this stage back in a bit
[10:06] <LGKeiz-Windows> and it still doesn't work
[10:06] <LGKeiz-Windows> is there a way to boost the signal power on the laptop
[10:06] <claviola> Is anyone using Loobuntu? (http://www.loobuntu.info/)
[10:06] <rBlong2us> gyaresu: nope this is SIS driver
[10:06] <grndslm> what's the easiest way to determine what type of cpu i have??
[10:06] <tich> is totem-mozilla the same as totem-xine-firefox-plugin?
[10:07] <rBlong2us> I am desperate
[10:07] <rickyfingers> iwconfig wlan0 key 6183261832
[10:07] <timo90> how do i make my ubuntu pc the gateway  device on my network for internet connection shearing
[10:07] <fd0man> I am having some issues with i810 on an Intel 915GM chipset and dual-head.  I have described the problem on the web:  http://community.livejournal.com/linux/1545408.html#cutid1
[10:07] <LjL> LGKeiz-Windows: passwords aren't made to be sent in plaintext to the entire internet, y'know
[10:07] <rickyfingers> make sure you've got the essid right too
[10:07] <fd0man> Does anyone have any experience with such an issue?
[10:07] <LGKeiz-Windows> wlan0?
[10:07] <caseyomah> How campatible is wine backed up by M$ dlls?
[10:07] <LGKeiz-Windows> I use eth1
[10:07] <rBlong2us> what are save values for horizontal sync?
[10:07] <rickyfingers> my bad
[10:07] <shwag> verboxx: there is ways to do it in the GUI too, but it is going to be a long hard road if you avoid the terminal. terminal is fun. repeat after me, terminal is fun.
[10:07] <gyaresu> rBlong2us, but you get my point about unfair comparisons.
[10:07] <rickyfingers> iwconfig eth1 key blahblahblah
[10:07] <LGKeiz-Windows> LjL - I don't use it for regular password, Im not that stu[od
[10:07] <LGKeiz-Windows> stupid *
[10:07] <shwag> verboxx: besides...how are you ever going to admin a remote server without knowing how to use a terminal.
[10:08] <rBlong2us> gyaresu: so what's your point?
[10:08] <verboxx> shwag: It's my work. and its really not for me, but for a co-worker
[10:08] <rBlong2us> I wanna try a different value
[10:08] <verboxx> he doesn't know how to use terminal. he's a wintendo guy
[10:08] <shwag> verboxx: so you are just helping a friend with ubuntu ?
[10:09] <caseyomah> gyaresu: Some people are used to haveing everything handed to them (M$ drivers come with hardware)
[10:09] <rickyfingers> LKG how goes the war?
[10:09] <fatsheep> I followed the samba guide: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605 but it isn't working...
[10:09] <rickyfingers> After you get the wep key and the essid right
[10:09] <verboxx> shwag: yep, and he doesnt speak english
[10:09] <LGKeiz-Windows> rickyfingers what now
[10:09] <psusi> verboxx: most of the admin type gui programs are already sudo'd
[10:09] <gyaresu> shwag gpasswd is actually used for adding users to groups. passwords are incidental. (yes you can just edit the groups file)
[10:10] <rickyfingers> OK do iwconfig and check to make sure that the essid and wep key are correct
[10:10] <foreverdaed> anyone got some time to help me getting my already installed ubuntu to boot?
[10:10] <shwag> gyaresu: what about addgroup
[10:10] <rickyfingers> then, if they are, do dhclient eth1
[10:10] <shwag> gyaresu: and groupadd too!
[10:10] <knapp> I have made a mess with the Nvidia driver install. Nvidia-settings says im using 8776, but when I try to do nvidia-install --uninstall it says there is no driver installed. When I try to reinstall it says it cannot find the kernel headers. How can I just wipe all of them out and start again? (besides reformatting)
[10:10] <LGKeiz-Windows> they are
[10:10] <rickyfingers> and see if you get an ip address from the router
[10:10] <LGKeiz-Windows> Like I said
[10:10] <LGKeiz-Windows> I use network-manager
[10:10] <gyaresu> caseyomah, Yes and they are usually out of date having been included around manufacturing. Hence virtually untested.
[10:10] <LGKeiz-Windows> I don't use the regular functions
[10:10] <macdo_> gyaresu, no ideas to mount this rather inconsiderate (replace last words by a big bad 4 letter...) HD?
[10:10] <verboxx> shwag: I already added a user to all the root groups: disk, adm, etc, but not working
[10:10] <shrndegruv> where do i get gkrellm themes?
[10:11] <rBlong2us> I can tell you MF that I am not f#$# used to have everything f#$$ handed by m$$$ as I've trying to fix this flicker shit problem with Ubuntu for a about a f#@$ week now
[10:11] <shrndegruv> there is no gkrellm-themes package
[10:11] <psusi> verboxx: what is not working?
[10:11] <shwag> verboxx: what exactly are you trying to acheive ?
[10:11] <gyaresu> shwag, remembering which one adds a group and which adds a user is annoying.
[10:11] <LjL> !language | rBlong2us, not again please
[10:11] <ubotu> rBlong2us, not again please: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:11] <rBlong2us> sorry
[10:11] <verboxx> shwag: that a machine login automatically like root. or login like a root-alias
[10:12] <gyaresu> macdo_, modprobe -l |grep hci
[10:12] <rickyfingers> LKG should just be properties
[10:12] <shwag> verboxx: so you are trying to get your GUI to load as root ?
[10:12] <rickyfingers> under network connection
[10:12] <rickyfingers> and tell it to get ip address from dhcp or automatically,
[10:12] <verboxx> shwag: automatically, when I boot up the machine
[10:12] <rBlong2us> what are some save horyzontal sync for an LCD screen
[10:12] <rickyfingers> it's dhcp
[10:12] <shwag> verboxx: so you want your machine to startup with NO security ?
[10:12] <verboxx> shwag: yep. NOOOOO security, like wintendo
[10:12] <psusi> verboxx: if you want auto login, go to the security tab in the login window preferences and enable it
[10:13] <macdo_> gyaresu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30681/
[10:13] <verboxx> jaja
[10:13] <gyaresu> rBlong2us, try 'sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-driver-all'
[10:13] <shwag> verboxx: windows users dont realize that this does not make linux easier. It actually makes linux CRASH MORE. Stop now.
[10:13] <LGKeiz-Windows> rickyfingers network connections ?!
[10:13] <gyaresu> rBlong2us, then post your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file to pastebin, please.
[10:13] <erUSUL> rBlong2us: horizontal and vertical sync does not have any meaning in lcd technology
[10:13] <erUSUL> !lcd
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about lcd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <rickyfingers> system->administration->networking
[10:13] <rickyfingers> my bad
[10:13] <shwag> verboxx: a horrible horrible idea. please just stop. You have no point.
[10:13] <caseyomah> verboxx: You have to "sudo passwd" to make a password for root, then you can log into the GUI as root/password
[10:14] <gyaresu> macdo_, 'lsmod |grep hci
[10:14] <psusi> caseyomah: no, you can not, don't tell people to do that, it's a bad idea, and it won't work
[10:14] <LGKeiz-Windows> like I said it doesnt use it..
[10:14] <LGKeiz-Windows> I have network-manager installed
[10:14] <LGKeiz-Windows> it takes over
[10:14] <rBlong2us> E: Package xserver-xorg-driver-all has no installation candida
[10:14] <rBlong2us> great
[10:14] <verboxx> shwag: I understand the problem but my friend here doesn't understand the problem
[10:14] <macdo_> gyaresu: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30683
[10:14] <rickyfingers> jeez...I don't use network manager.
[10:15] <psusi> verbooxx: I told you, to enable auto login, open the login window preferances and go to the seurity tab
[10:15] <LGKeiz-Windows> how do you unload something
[10:15] <caseyomah> psusi: X/Gnome/KDE won't let you login as root?
[10:15] <rickyfingers> so you don't even have access to that "control panel" that I'm talking about?
[10:15] <psusi> caseyomah: of course not
[10:15] <verboxx> psusi: ok, thanx
[10:15] <gyaresu> !repos > rBlong2us
[10:15] <LGKeiz-Windows> rickyfinger - I'll unload network-manager - but how do I unload it
[10:15] <rBlong2us> erUSUL: so what
[10:15] <rickyfingers> Does it run as a service?
[10:16] <gyaresu> rBlong2us, It's a candidate alright.
[10:16] <LGKeiz-Windows> dunno
[10:16] <warkruid> LGKeiz-Windows: Modules?
[10:16] <rickyfingers> I'm getting far afield here
[10:16] <LGKeiz-Windows> it automatically starts when ubuntu runs
[10:16] <psusi> and for system recovery purposes, you don't want a root password... that way you can't forget it and get stuck trying to boot into recovery mode
[10:16] <rBlong2us> erUSUL: so what can I tweak?
[10:17] <shwag> verboxx: well thats what friends are for
[10:17] <rBlong2us> by the way shouldn't Ubuntu be called Gubuntu like Kubuntu?
[10:17] <caseyomah> psusi: I know that it's totally WRONG from a *nix view, but logging in as root from tty works, X doesn't?
[10:17] <shwag> verboxx: just because your friend is ... , doesn't mean you have to waste our time.
[10:17] <rickyfingers> I'm still at a loss, you don't have access to what I'm talking about, the networking control under System
[10:17] <psusi> caseyomah: root can log in on the text ttys, yes... but not to X
[10:17] <rBlong2us> gyaresu: what is a candidate alright?
[10:17] <psusi> caseyomah: or remote services like telnet
[10:17] <rickyfingers> Like where it says "System" at the top of the screen?
[10:17] <warkruid> LGKeiz-Windows: Worst case... open a terminal. sudo -i, ps -ef |grep <name>, kill -9 <pid>
[10:17] <gyaresu> rBlong2us, silly name for a 'package'
[10:17] <Kannix> rBlong2us: because Kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE as default Desktop, not Gnome, as it should be :)
[10:18] <gyaresu> rBlong2us, that package is a 'meta' package as it includes all the xorg drivers.
[10:18] <LGKeiz-Windows> rickyfingers I do, but like I've been trying to say 100 times network-manager takes over
[10:18] <rBlong2us> Kannix: that's what I am saying Kubuntu, Xubuntu therefore Gubuntu
[10:18] <gyaresu> rBlong2us, how are you going with your repos?
[10:18] <LjL> !offtopic | rBlong2us, Kannix
[10:18] <ubotu> rBlong2us, Kannix: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, #ubuntu+1 supports the development version of Ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopic is for random chatter. Welcome!
[10:18] <Kannix> rBlong2us: No, Ubuntu was there first.
[10:19] <erUSUL> rBlong2us: what is exactly your problem? try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' and reconfigure the xserver
[10:19] <gyaresu> rBlong2us, do you want help or not?
[10:19] <rBlong2us> for fluxbox Fubuntu
[10:19] <rickyfingers> LKG can you do ifconfig eth1 and see if it's got an IP or what?
[10:19] <rBlong2us> for e17 Ebuntu
[10:19] <rickyfingers> also look for a line 4, should start with UP
[10:19] <rBlong2us> or e17buntu
[10:20] <timo90> How do i set this pc runnig ubuntu for internet conection shearing -the modem is connected to thsi pc.
[10:20] <gyaresu> erUSUL, rBlong2us Let's just make sure the right drivers are in first.
[10:20] <LjL> rBlong2us, i think we got the idea. #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:20] <rBlong2us> ok
[10:20] <timo90> how do i set it up as the gateway
[10:20] <rBlong2us> soo.. dpkg reconfigure for the thousandth time now?
[10:20] <gyaresu> macdo_, I can't think of why it's not finding it. You are trying in the back usb ports right?
[10:20] <rickyfingers> timo90 easiest way if you're talking about using ubuntu as a gateway
[10:20] <LjL> timo90, you need iptables.
[10:20] <rBlong2us> I have a sis video card
[10:20] <rickyfingers> is use firestarter
[10:21] <Nuked> how can I build a .deb without checkinstall
[10:21] <Nuked> ?
[10:21] <LGKeiz-Windows> rickyfingers - no..
[10:21] <LjL> Nuked: by following the debian package mantainers howto
[10:21] <LGKeiz-Windows> how do you connect to a network
[10:21] <gyaresu> rBlong2us, Take a deep breath... Now. I've offered to help, will you accept?
[10:21] <timo90> LjL:Hi , how do i set these up.
[10:21] <rBlong2us> WHY ME!!! :-(
[10:22] <rBlong2us> gyaresu: yes I do...
[10:22] <timo90> rickyfingers:i want ubuntu as gateway. :-D
[10:22] <Nuked> LjL, do I detect a negative connotation there?
[10:22] <rickyfingers> OK if you've got a command prompt just do sudo dhclient eth1
[10:22] <rBlong2us> gyaresu: so what next?
[10:22] <rickyfingers> that'll tell you if you're able to get an IP from your router
[10:22] <LjL> Nuked: i'm implying it's not terribly easy, yes
[10:22] <rBlong2us> gyaresu: I've even disabled RI
[10:22] <rickyfingers> timo just use firestarter then
[10:22] <macdo_> gyaresu: yup, and I've tried in several different ports, just in case
[10:22] <LGKeiz-Windows> sec im removing network-manager
[10:22] <gyaresu> rBlong2us, so 'sudo apt-cache search xserver |grep sis'
[10:22] <rickyfingers> if you want to learn more read up on iptables
[10:23] <LjL> timo90: tell me more about the setup you have
[10:23] <rickyfingers> you can install firestarter using synaptic package manager
[10:23] <timo90> how can i edit the iptables ?
[10:23] <rBlong2us> gyaresu: what I suspect it might be is the framebuffer driver for which X sis driver needs to work, I think
[10:23] <foreverdaed> anyone got some time to help me getting my already installed ubuntu to boot?
[10:23] <BadKitty> how do I get things like a clock and stuff on my dekstop?
[10:23] <rickyfingers> timo, if iptables are unfamilar to you
[10:23] <LjL> timo90: iptables is a command, you don't edit it
[10:23] <rickyfingers> you really need to spend time reading about it first
[10:23] <lk11mn> psusi: k, i rebooted, and installed the new dmraid, and it activated the 2 raw raid disks into mapper
[10:23] <LGKeiz-Windows> ok ricky now what
[10:23] <LGKeiz-Windows> it's doing stuff
[10:23] <Cool> hello?
[10:23] <gyaresu> rBlong2us, so you have xserver-xorg-driver-sis ?
[10:23] <rBlong2us> xserver-xorg-video-sis - X.Org X server -- SiS display driver
[10:23] <rBlong2us> xserver-xorg-video-sisusb - X.Org X server -- SiS USB display driver
[10:24] <rickyfingers> Should say something about success
[10:24] <rBlong2us> gyaresu: yeah the latest one
[10:24] <rickyfingers> If it says sending dhcp request a bunch of times
[10:24] <Cool> Im a n00b, can anybody help me?
[10:24] <rickyfingers> It's not talking to the router
[10:24] <psusi> lk11mn: crap?  it still put them in /dev/mapper?
[10:24] <deny_> with what cool?
[10:24] <LGKeiz-Windows> No DHCPOFFERS received
[10:24] <BadKitty> Whats up Cool?
[10:24] <BadKitty> Im noob to but maybe I can help?
[10:24] <ozzicle> LGKeiz-Windows, are you having a dns problem too?
[10:24] <timo90> LjL:i had ubuntu 64 bit, didnt like it now im gone to 32 bit, i had 64 bit network working great, they other computer still has the same settings ip,dns,gateway
[10:24] <gyaresu> rBlong2us, Do you know what monitor you are using?
[10:24] <lk11mn> psusi: so i did dmraid -an to deactivate them, and then dmraid -ay sil to bring up the sil, but nope, also i check in /dev and there's no sign of any of the partitions
[10:24] <justintime32> Cool: what do you need help with
[10:25] <rickyfingers> My bad
[10:25] <BadKitty> I had problems with ubuntu 64.. 43bit is rockin
[10:25] <LGKeiz-Windows> ozzicle - I don't know..
[10:25] <rBlong2us> gyaresu: if this could give a clue, running puppyOS on the same computer off ram DOES NOT give the flicker shit issues
[10:25] <lk11mn> well no, i cant find the partitions now psusi
[10:25] <gyaresu> rBlong2us, 17" LCD or soemthing.
[10:25] <shrndegruv> how do i make mplayer play stuff i click on in firefox?
[10:25] <rickyfingers> if it keeps saying DHCPDISCOVER on eth1
[10:25] <eidos> what i love about Linux - on upgrading to 6.10, it asked me if i wanted to replace or keep a file - had no idea but had an option to display the differences in the file being replaced :)
[10:25] <shrndegruv> keeps trying to open totem
[10:25] <rBlong2us> gyaresu: yeah a Gateway
[10:25] <Cool> Im trying to boot ubuntu, but it always shows me this error about Graphic X or something
[10:25] <rickyfingers> a bunch of times, it's not talking to the router
[10:25] <eidos> i have totem too, what is that
[10:25] <psusi> lk11mn: hrm.... crap... let me look at the code some more
[10:25] <justintime32> Cool: do you get a blue screen that says "Cannot start the X server..."
[10:25] <rickyfingers> it should be relatively quick
[10:25] <skreet> is edgy going to have 2.16 in it, or do we have to wait for the next release?
[10:25] <rBlong2us> gyaresu: nope a 15" fpd 1500 Gateway
[10:25] <lk11mn> psusi: also if i try to do anything other than -h with dmraid it just brings me to the next line in the terminal, and stays there
[10:26] <rickyfingers> some other things to try
[10:26] <ozzicle> Well I keep getting that DHCPDISCOVER thing, only my connection is fine, it keeps switching the dns servers to something local like 192, so I switch them back to my ISP's and it works fine, but it seems to autoswitch them back to the local ones
[10:26] <ozzicle> Any ideas on that?
[10:26] <gyaresu> rBlong2us, So can you get a copy of the puppy xorg.conf? Then set your monitor to those resolutions in your ubuntu xorg?
[10:26] <BadKitty> Cool: Is it after you installed something, or for the first time?Or your running from CD?
[10:26] <LGKeiz-Windows> >.>
[10:26] <rickyfingers> ok
[10:26] <timo90> LjL: what commands to edit the iptable
[10:26] <Cool> running from cd
[10:26] <LjL> timo90, i was asking about your *network* setup. anyway, you're saying it worked great previously...? how, exactly?
[10:26] <rBlong2us> gyaresu: I did that and I did by manually changing Xorg
[10:26] <Cool> first time
[10:26] <rickyfingers> timo, man iptables
[10:26] <LjL> timo90: as i just said, iptables *is* a command.
[10:26] <justintime32> Cool: do you  have an ATI card?
[10:26] <Cool> yes. 64 bit
[10:26] <gyaresu> timo90, you may want to read the netfilter.org manual.
[10:26] <justintime32> ok
[10:27] <BadKitty> Hmmm.. thats weird... what kind of graphic card do you have and what kind of monitor
[10:27] <lk11mn> psusi:  i'll reboot and try again - lol just is there any way i can keep xchat instead of installing it everytime :p (i guess its the nature of the beast)
[10:27] <BadKitty> Ahh Ati......
[10:27] <rBlong2us> gyaresu: and xorg in Ubuntu detects the same
[10:27] <Cool> a8n-e and radeon x800GTO
[10:27] <jmhodges> anyone know why totem-gstreamer can't play the audio in Quicktime movies (totem-xine just throws a fit about codecs) even though MPlayer plays it fine?
[10:27] <gyaresu> !iptables > timo90,
[10:27] <justintime32> Cool: I've had this problem before with ATI cards. To get it working, I had to edit the file "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" and change the driver from "ati" or whatever it is to "vesa"
[10:27] <rickyfingers> LKG I'm confused about where you're at,
[10:27] <foreverdaed> anyone got some time to help me getting my already installed ubuntu to boot?
[10:27] <timo90> i just done a nano iptables and it woked i think
[10:27] <psusi> lk11mn: I dobt that will help
[10:28] <Cool> ok?
[10:28] <psusi> lk11mn: I am sure I screwed it up...
[10:28] <rickyfingers> is sudo dhclient eth1 hanging on DHCPDISCOVER
[10:28] <gyaresu> rBlong2us, so could you pastebin your xorg.conf please.
[10:28] <Cool> where is this file?
[10:28] <rickyfingers> or does it go all the way through
[10:28] <BadKitty> justintime.. but if he is booting from the CD he cant do that
[10:28] <timo90> !iptables
[10:28] <ubotu> Ubuntu, like any other linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'iptables' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo), or GUI applications such as Firestarter (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE).
[10:28] <rickyfingers> the way to control dns is
[10:28] <gyaresu> foreverdaed, what's it (not) doing?
[10:28] <justintime32> Cool: when the CD boots up, you have to get to the command line
[10:28] <Cool> no?
[10:28] <rickyfingers> by editing /etc/resolv.conf
[10:28] <LGKeiz-Windows> I just installed Wifi-Radar
[10:28] <LGKeiz-Windows> It said
[10:28] <foreverdaed> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=295750
[10:28] <LGKeiz-Windows> could not get ip address
[10:28] <justintime32> Cool: the file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:28] <Cool> how dio i do that?
[10:28] <Cool> *do
[10:28] <LGKeiz-Windows> rickyfingers It said could not get ip address o_o;
[10:29] <justintime32> Cool: hang on a sec, let me get a command for you
[10:29] <Cool> ok
[10:29] <rickyfingers> OK then we're back to troubleshooting
[10:29] <rickyfingers> wireless settings
[10:29] <rickyfingers> essid, wep key
[10:29] <Pelo> note to self do not open up your kb unless you have a replacement handy
[10:29] <rickyfingers> you can also set the rate iwconfig eth1 rate 11
[10:29] <Duesentrieb> Hey guys. I'm really frustrated with dapper on my new laptop. Hardware support is more than flacky - i have no sound, redraw artefacts in gnome apps (firefox hardly usable), acpi doesn't wuite work, etc.
[10:29] <rickyfingers> sometime's I've had to do that to "wake" a wireless nic up
[10:29] <Duesentrieb> so, what shall I do? try edgy? or is that likely to make things worse?
[10:29] <rickyfingers> also the mode
[10:29] <timo90> i gues since its a firewall i must just type in the ipadress i.e 168.192.01 gateway 168.192.0.2 DNS blah blah
[10:29] <gyaresu> Duesentrieb, Yes.
[10:30] <rickyfingers> iwconfig eth1 mode managed/ad-hoc/access-point
[10:30] <gyaresu> Duesentrieb, Can't get any worse by the sound of it.
[10:30] <rickyfingers> are some other things to mess with
[10:30] <lk11mn> psusi: k, well it loads the raw raid disks into dev/mapper/ but there's no sign of the partitions, not in mapper or dev/   - k well i'll hang around here for a while - i wont try the bootstrap thing coz you'll need someone to test this out :p (lol that's my excuse anyway)
[10:30] <psusi> lk11mn: can you run dmraid -ay -vvvv and pastebin the output?
[10:30] <gyaresu> timo90, is that a question?
[10:30] <lk11mn> yup
[10:30] <Duesentrieb> gyaresu: well, ok, but is it likely to help? And how would i get a clean migration to edgy?...
[10:31] <Pelo> Duesentrieb,  check out the forum for your laptop model first,  maybe there is some info for your hardware
[10:31] <timo90> gyaresu:sugestion
[10:31] <gyaresu> !upgrade > Duesentrieb
[10:31] <Pelo> Duesentrieb,  the only clean migration to edgy is a clean install from cd
[10:31] <timo90> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[10:31] <timo90> target     prot opt source               destination              MAN THIS IS HARD
[10:31] <Duesentrieb> Pelo: which will cost me a week of development time, effectively. not an option right now.
[10:32] <LjL> Pelo, upgrading is supported AFAIK
[10:32] <rickyfingers> timo90 to get started
[10:32] <foreverdaed> gyaresu, and ideas on my boot problems?
[10:32] <rickyfingers> just put two nics in your system
[10:32] <lk11mn> psusi:  with -vvvv this is all i get (it's not big i'm sure noone will even notice) WARN: locking /var/lock/dmraid/.lock - there... i think i got away with it!
[10:32] <rickyfingers> and run firefox
[10:32] <Pelo> Duesentrieb,  you can back up your home folder and save all your settings and crap
[10:32] <rickyfingers> then do sudo iptables -L
[10:32] <rickyfingers> not firefox
[10:32] <rickyfingers> firestarter
[10:32] <rickyfingers> my bad
[10:32] <variant> timo90: yeah, iptables takes a bit of getting used to, if this is not a headless server you might want to try gaurddog
[10:32] <gyaresu> Pelo, Duesentrieb Huh? Only clean migration? No. Just change the dapper's to edgy's in sources.list and update/upgrade
[10:32] <rickyfingers> do iptables -L
[10:32] <rickyfingers> and that's a good place to start looking at iptables rules
[10:32] <BadKitty> sorry was AFK...
[10:33] <rickyfingers> to implement a decent firewall/gateway
[10:33] <gyaresu> foreverdaed, Can you tell me what's happening (i can't see any posts by you)
[10:33] <variant> timo90: its a non easy gui interface to iptables but it is easyer that the command line (unless your familiar with the iptables commands that is :))
[10:33] <Pelo> gyaresu,  that didn'T work well for me
[10:33] <BadKitty> Cool, did he get it for you?
[10:33] <foreverdaed> gyaresu, link didnt work?
[10:33] <rickyfingers> You'll be banging your head against a monitor for a while doing writing the rules
[10:33] <Pelo> gyaresu,  and for most ppl that I have heard
[10:33] <timo90> Were is POVadcct when you need him :(
[10:33] <rickyfingers> by yourself.
[10:33] <Cool> hes checking something i think
[10:33] <lk11mn> psusi: that was sudo dmraid -ay -vvvv (maybe i'll reinstall dmraid, it's like the command has hung or something - i'm not sure how to describe it)
[10:33] <rBlong2us> gyaresu: http://pastebin.com/820016
[10:33] <gyaresu> foreverdaed, post again please
[10:34] <Cool> he's getting a command
[10:34] <rBlong2us> that's the pastebin for my xorg
[10:34] <BadKitty> If Cool is booting from the CD can he change the xorg.conf file??
[10:34] <psusi> lk11mn: give me a few... I'm tracking down the problem now... hacking deep through the source
[10:34] <rickyfingers> BadKitty
[10:34] <foreverdaed> ok so first off i have xp installed
[10:34] <foreverdaed> i have a newer system(xp to xp/Suse to xp/vista to XP/mandrivia to xp/ubuntu(not working))
[10:34] <foreverdaed> i havent ever really found a distro i liked untill ubuntu, thats why i have used so many but am still a noob
[10:34] <foreverdaed> livecd works great install says it finishes but it never boots
[10:34] <foreverdaed> everything else has worked except for xp/ubuntu
[10:34] <timo90>  variant:i should have saved my iptables from the 64bit install
[10:34] <foreverdaed> everytime i reinstall xp continues to boot no grub screen comes up
[10:34] <foreverdaed> i have tried reinstalling the grub to /boot (was on hda0,1)
[10:34] <foreverdaed> tried the super grub disk
[10:34] <foreverdaed> looking for some basic steps to start over or maybe a few tips
[10:34] <foreverdaed> 30 gb or so free for partitioning,--- for now 1.2 gb swap, 10gb root and 19.2 gb usr
[10:34] <rickyfingers> if he is, he can edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:34] <LGKeiz-Windows>  YAY
[10:34] <foreverdaed> 
[10:34] <foreverdaed> thanks for the help
[10:34] <LGKeiz-Windows> I FIXED
[10:34] <LGKeiz-Windows> IT
[10:34] <rickyfingers> Killer
[10:34] <rickyfingers> what was it?
[10:34] <macdo_> gyaresu: do you reckon that a clean edgy reinstall would help?
[10:35] <rickyfingers> after booting off the CD
[10:35] <ubbutnt> Azureus has popped up a warning window abot not shutting down properly!  but now I cant close the warning window!  How can I close it from CLI?
[10:35] <justintime32> Cool: I'm sending you a PM, answer it
[10:35] <morphish> foreverdaed: you would install grub to hd0 not hd0,1 usually (hd0) would be mbr
[10:35] <mia> hi all, what do i ahve to do to be able to play xvids and divxs in kubuntu?  imk not finding any codecs in my repos
[10:35] <rickyfingers> and restart the X server with ctrl-alt-backspace
[10:35] <mia> im using amd64.  is that why i dont have libxine-extracodecs
[10:35] <LGKeiz-Windows> rickyfingers - Used Wifi-radar, changed the channel to 7, mode managed, and entered password, with WEP and it worked
[10:35] <BadKitty> rickyfingers, ok so what is the text editor for the cp
[10:35] <Duesentrieb> gyaresu: ok, that gives me an upgrade, but i wonder about "clean"... especially with hand-compiled stuff on the machine. Well, not much, just the asla stuff which I tried to get working, without success.
[10:35] <macdo_> gyaresu: because otherwise it's a clean Dapper reinstall, dammit!
[10:35] <rickyfingers> vi
[10:35] <gyaresu> macdo_, Shouldn't need to. But I can't think of options at the moment.
[10:35] <Duesentrieb> .oO(this channel is way to noisy)
[10:35] <foreverdaed> morphish, tried that first
[10:35] <rickyfingers> BadKity cp=command prompt
[10:35] <rickyfingers> right?
[10:35] <BadKitty> yah
[10:36] <rickyfingers> but if you've got some gui running
[10:36] <gyaresu> Duesentrieb, Hand compiled? Like what?
[10:36] <rickyfingers> you could just use gedit
[10:36] <ubbutnt> anyone know how I can close a warning window?
[10:36] <Duesentrieb> gyaresu: like configure && make && make install
[10:36] <morphish> foreverdaed: you  have to "root (hd0,1)" then "setup (hd0)"   (if you run grub yourself
[10:36] <BadKitty> right that is what I use, but he doesn't have it cause his X is crashing
[10:36] <macdo_> gyaresu: the external drive has *all* my data on it, and i sort of need it...
[10:36] <FordPrefect> hey does anyone know where I can get an ogg rendering (hopefully in the clear) that sounds like sosumi from the mak?
[10:36] <FordPrefect> mak = mac
[10:36] <rickyfingers> yeah
[10:36] <rickyfingers> then vi, or joe
[10:36] <rickyfingers> joe might be easier
[10:36] <gyaresu> macdo_, of course.
[10:37] <SoftIce> hi can somebody tell me if I have 3 ips binding to eth0 does mrtg read each individuals ip traffic or just that of eth0 ?
[10:37] <rickyfingers> but I don't think joe comes with ubuntu by default
[10:37] <rickyfingers> vi is always there
[10:37] <Cool> Im trying to boot ubuntu, but it always shows me this error about Graphic X or something
[10:37] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> yay
[10:37] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> it worked
[10:37] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> Im on
[10:37] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> :D
[10:37] <rickyfingers> but it can be a bit of a pain to use if you're not used to it
[10:37] <timo90> :'(
[10:37] <rickyfingers> but there's always, man vi
[10:37] <foreverdaed> morph, no idea how to run grubmyself, i went into it and tried a couple tutorials online and nothing seemed to work
[10:37] <Cool> does anybody know what that means?
[10:37] <rBlong2us> gyaresu: are you here? :'-(
[10:37] <BadKitty> Cool, Im not sure what the command is but you want to navigate to /etc/X11 and then edit xorg.conf
[10:37] <Cool> ok
[10:38] <rickyfingers> first, cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak
[10:38] <BadKitty> (I've never tried VI only gedit)
[10:38] <rickyfingers> then man vi
[10:38] <BadKitty> Good idea ricky
[10:38] <rickyfingers> if you don't know how to use vi
[10:38] <shwag> Anyone use Ekiga ?
[10:38] <rickyfingers> also, you know you have several virtual consoles
[10:38] <BadKitty> You got that Cool?
[10:38] <StarQuake> shwag, i tried a few times
[10:38] <gyaresu> rBlong2us, my dxorg.conf has horizsync 28-51 && and vertrefresh 43-60 for my 12" laptop.
[10:38] <lk11mn> psusi: I hope you have a high resolution gfx card with 3 displays and a 2gbps fibre optic line. i saw a film once (swordfish) and the guy needed that stuff to hack into a bank!
[10:38] <LjL> BadKitty: why not use nano? it's quite friendly
[10:38] <rickyfingers> use alt-f<n>
[10:38] <Cool> yeah
[10:38] <berkes__> does anyone know a nice comand to find out what user certain process runs as?
[10:38] <rickyfingers> yes, nano would be a much better choice
[10:39] <rickyfingers> didn't think about that one
[10:39] <BadKitty> Oh yah nano
[10:39] <BadKitty> lol
[10:39] <BadKitty> I used that once
[10:39] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> what should I use for make?
[10:39] <Cool> do i go via cp?
[10:39] <StarQuake> berkes__, run 'ps aux'
[10:39] <rickyfingers> make is just a command you put in the command prompt
[10:39] <pgm> hello, i got some probs with my ISA network card, xubuntu cant detect it? Is there any support for ISA cards in xubuntu, or do I have to configure them manually?
[10:39] <rickyfingers> ISA?
[10:39] <StarQuake> berkes__, or try 'ps aux | grep process'
[10:39] <Skyrail> Anyone know why transferring of files from MSN to Gaim is so slow? its driving me around the bend
[10:39] <pgm> rickfingers: yes
[10:39] <psusi> lk11mn: rofl
[10:39] <rickyfingers> might want to consider shelling out 20$ for a pci
[10:39] <BadKitty> so would it be sudo nano xorg.conf??
[10:39] <rickyfingers> nic
[10:40] <rickyfingers> yes nano xorg.conf
[10:40] <LjL> BadKitty: unless you're already in the right dir, it's sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:40] <StarQuake> BadKitty, try nano -w xorg.conf
[10:40] <Cool> what is sudo nano?
[10:40] <rickyfingers> but please do cp xorg.conf xorg.conf.bak
[10:40] <rickyfingers> first!
[10:40] <pgm> rickfingers: so ubuntu doesnt support ISA?
[10:40] <rickyfingers> I don't know.
[10:40] <KradarK> i know problem in gnome panel crash?????????????????'
[10:40] <BadKitty> StrQuake, thanks this is for Cool actualy :-)
[10:40] <pgm> ok thx
[10:40] <Skyrail> 2.30kb/s is way to slow back on windows it used to be at least 50kb/s and I've downloaded files that fast before on Linux but not through MSN to Gaim...any ideas?
[10:40] <rickyfingers> I'm just thinking that pci nics are pretty cheap these days
[10:40] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> rickyfingers what should I use to compile programs
[10:41] <rickyfingers> LKG that depends on the language
[10:41] <rickyfingers> the program is written on
[10:41] <rickyfingers> *in
[10:41] <StarQuake> Skyrail, gaim is not that good
[10:41] <BadKitty> sudo is a command that lets gives you root authority (is that the best way of saying that) so you can make changes to your files, nano is the editing program
[10:41] <StarQuake> Skyrail, with file transfers that is
[10:41] <PFA> i just gave my little brother an ubuntu account. how do i give him permission to get into Synaptic?
[10:41] <StarQuake> Skyrail, you run dapper or edgy?
[10:41] <rickyfingers> Is it .tar.gz source tree you downloaded
[10:41] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> build-estional or however you spell it
[10:41] <rickyfingers> and decompressed
[10:42] <Skyrail> StarQuake: er...6.06 lol I'm not too sure which one that is heh, what should I use instead?
[10:42] <Pelo> essential
[10:42] <CHR1Six> Hey - does anyone here know much about ubuntu netinstall ?
[10:42] <rickyfingers> with like tar -xvzf program-name.tar.gz?
[10:42] <Cool> I am a newb on cp too actually, so i dont know what to type or anything
[10:42] <Cool> sorry
[10:42] <gyaresu> LGKeiz-Ubuntu, build-essential
[10:42] <berkes__> StarQuake: yea, problem is, I need to use it in another command, to be precise in chown
[10:42] <PFA> i just gave my little brother an ubuntu account. how do i give him permission to get into Synaptic?
[10:42] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> gyaresu is that good for compiling?
[10:42] <LjL> PFA: you make him a member of the admin group
[10:42] <gyaresu> LGKeiz-Ubuntu, essential
[10:42] <Duesentrieb> hm, i found this page that seems to be about my autio problem, but it's in spanisch... can anyone help with that?
[10:42] <PFA> LjL: thank you
[10:42] <Duesentrieb> http://www.ubuntu-es.org/index.php?q=node/26035
[10:42] <StarQuake> Skyrail, well 6.06 has gaim 1.* and 6.10 has gaim 2.* which has better support for file transfers
[10:43] <BadKitty> at cp type: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:43] <LjL> PFA: that means he can get root as he pleases, though
[10:43] <CHR1Six> Duesen, try going to http://babelfish.altavista.com/ and translating it
[10:43] <StarQuake> Skyrail, to upgrade try running 'sudo update-manager -c'
[10:43] <Skyrail> StarQuake: oh ok, well I can't get 6.10 so heh :( can I get 2.* on 6.06?
[10:43] <StarQuake> Skyrail, it takes a while
[10:43] <Skyrail> ok
[10:43] <KradarK> help.. exist upgrade ubuntu dapper --> edgy from cd edgy???
[10:43] <rickyfingers> Wow.  This channel is really addictive. I've got to say good night everyone.
[10:43] <rickyfingers> It's been real.
[10:43] <BadKitty> Why cant you get Edgy/
[10:43] <CHR1Six> Is there anyone who can assist with some netinstall issues?
[10:43] <gyaresu> Duesentrieb,  http://babelfish.altavista.com/
[10:43] <KradarK> use cd edgy?
[10:43] <StarQuake> rickyfingers, good night ;)
[10:44] <BadKitty> Night Ricky
[10:44] <rickyfingers> LKG when you ask about compiling programs,
[10:44] <rickyfingers> what kind of programs do you mean you're wanting to compile?
[10:44] <rickyfingers> You want to learn some programming skillz
[10:44] <rickyfingers> go with gcc
[10:44] <BadKitty> whats gcc
[10:44] <Cool> doesnt work
[10:44] <rickyfingers> that's the gnu c compile
[10:44] <Skyrail> StarQuake: well it looks like I've started upgrading to 6.10 heh, will I lose all my stuff? not that I have alot on here...but
[10:44] <rickyfingers> compiler
[10:44] <BadKitty> ahh
[10:45] <Landon> Hey all, anyone know a good software for mixing music in ubuntu?
[10:45] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> awesome
[10:45] <rickyfingers> You can have a lot of *fun* lmastering that beast
[10:45] <AlinuxOS> ###Hello All,### the program that I'm compiling asked me: "checking for libxml-2.0 gtk+-2.0... configure: error: Cannot find GTK modules, stopping build!                  Please Install GTK+ package to continue. See www.gtk.org.
[10:45] <AlinuxOS> ", I'm using Edgy, can someone tell me which packages should I install ?
[10:45] <StarQuake> Skyrail, probably not, but there is a teensy weensy possibility
[10:45] <rBlong2us> is there a reason why do I get recursively up to 23 Firefox windows opened?
[10:45] <Duesentrieb> gyaresu: hehe - the fish dies on this page. code 157 :P
[10:45] <Duesentrieb> i'm out of luck today :(
[10:45] <ifireball> !audacity | Landon
[10:45] <gyaresu> Duesentrieb, wow.
[10:45] <ubotu> audacity: A fast, cross-platform audio editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4b-2.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1850 kB, installed size 5444 kB
[10:45] <BadKitty> Cool can you answer your PM?
[10:45] <Skyrail> StarQuake: ok well I'm not too bothered, mainly bookmarks and favorites all of which found via google, er..a few files nothing that essential
[10:45] <Cool> PM? whats that?
[10:45] <|rt|> Landon: depends on your needs
[10:45] <BadKitty> Private Message
[10:46] <Cool> sorry about my noobidity
[10:46] <LjL> AlinuxOS: install libxml2-dev and libgtk2.0-dev
[10:46] <ifireball> Landon: audacity
[10:46] <BadKitty> It's Cool
[10:46] <StarQuake> Skyrail, don't know if you come from a land called windows. But upgrading actually works as you would want
[10:46] <|rt|> Landon: audacity is ok if your needs are pretty simple
[10:46] <rickyfingers> OK schiezer...I said I had to go to bed, now I'm really going to do it.
[10:46] <Landon> ifireball | rt |: I tried Audacity, and it doesn't really work very well
[10:46] <StarQuake> Skyrail, all programs get upgraded too
[10:46] <rickyfingers> night alles
[10:46] <Landon> |rt|: I need something a little better
[10:46] <wweasel> I dunno, I like Audacity quite alot personally.
[10:46] <KradarK> help...
[10:46] <JohnM555> Hello, I have my wireless driver installed with ndiswrapper, but I'm not sure how to set up the wireless connection with wep using iwconfig and ifconfig. I've tried changing the essid, channel, key, etc, but I don't know what to do after that, I don't even know if I'm doing this to the right interface. I have looked at so many websites its all just starting to blend together. Could anyone help me?
[10:47] <gyaresu> Landon, wweasel ifireball ardour
[10:47] <BadKitty> John: What card are you using?
[10:47] <JohnM555> Netgear WG121
[10:47] <morphish> JohnM555: iwconfig, this will list all interfaces with wireless extensions, only configure those that have those
[10:47] <Cool> how do i answer PM?
[10:47] <JohnM555> I did that
[10:47] <BadKitty> Ubuntu 6.10?
[10:47] <CHR1Six> Anyone able to help with a netinstall problem? I have the server working fine except it connects to archive.ubuntu.com before it connects to my local mirror. This is resulting in some package resolution problems. Everything works perfectly if i disconnect my network from the internet and it's pretty frustrating.
[10:47] <variant> Landon: ardour baudline easytag jamin jokosher keykit linuxsampler muse noteedit rezound rosegarden seq24 snd sweep timemachines
[10:47] <AlinuxOS> LjL, thank you bro.
[10:48] <SoftIce> hi can somebody tell me if I have 3 ips binding to eth0 does mrtg read each individuals ip traffic or just that of eth0 ?
[10:48] <variant> Cool: you cant, you have to be registered on freenode with your nick
[10:48] <BadKitty> Cool I messaged you there should be a tab that says my name on it
[10:48] <wweasel> JohnM555: Have you heard of network-manager? I know many people use it, as it tends to simplify using a wireless card
[10:48] <JohnM555> morphish: I did that, but how am I supposed to know which one is correct?
[10:48] <Landon> Thanks variant
[10:48] <|rt|> Landon: ardour is a bit more robust
[10:48] <Skyrail> StarQuake: yeah I've just seen the file size then, too big for now anyway, maybe on a Saturday but not now :( maybe just the upgrades not the new ubuntu version
[10:48] <Landon> |rt|: I'll try that one
[10:48] <JohnM555> wweasel: I was just looking at that, but I was having trouble compiling it, I'm new to linux
[10:48] <CHR1Six> so i take it no one here knows how to setup netinstall servers? :P
[10:48] <variant> SoftIce: afaik, it is interface based, you can probably configure it by ip though
[10:48] <Cool> I have messaged you to, botnot recieved one
[10:48] <wweasel> JohnM555: No need to compile, it should be in the repos. You're using Edgy, right?
[10:49] <|rt|> Landon: check it's web page first to see if it's something you need....something in that list that variant just gave you may be somewhere in between
[10:49] <JohnM555> wweasel: yes, I am, whats repos?
[10:49] <Landon> |rt|: Thanks, I'll do that then
[10:49] <BadKitty> John, you shouldn't have to use ndiswrapper for edgy to use your card... I have the same one
[10:49] <BadKitty> I just had to enter my essid and the WEP key
[10:49] <JohnM555> BadKitty: you're kidding :\
[10:49] <BadKitty> Badda-Bing, Badda-Boom
[10:49] <lk11mn> psusi: i'ma reboot now, coz i'll prolly need to anyway (and reinstalling dmraid didnt go as plant - the installer is hung and i cant play with synaptic) so i'll brb
[10:50] <wweasel> BadKitty: I am not saying he has to, but it could well be easier
[10:50] <Skyrail> StarQuake: last time I upgraded the desktop wouldn't load, what would I do if this happen again?
[10:50] <wweasel> JohnM555: Almost all packages you will ever need will be in the official ubuntu repositories (repos). You can access them via Synaptic, or apt-get in the terminal
[10:50] <variant> Landon: you might want to check out rosegarden, its pretty advanced features
[10:50] <JohnM555> wweasel: but do I need to be on the internet for those to work?
[10:50] <CHR1Six> wweasel, don't forget to tell him to enable the universe repo then. :P
[10:50] <BadKitty> Wait, my card is a little different
[10:51] <JohnM555> universe repo?
[10:51] <wweasel> JohnM555: Right...need internet connection. Any chance you can plug in via ethernet?
[10:51] <BadKitty> But seriously I had so many problems with my linksys card, I got a netgear and it works just fine
[10:51] <mortal5> how do i make aptitude match whole words?
[10:51] <wweasel> CHR1Six: getting there :P
[10:51] <morphish> Johan666: uh, there should only one listed, the rest should say stuff like "eth0      no wireless extensions."
[10:51] <JohnM555> wweasel: no, thats why I need wireless. I'm on my laptop now
[10:51] <BadKitty> Cool: hmmmmm
[10:51] <CHR1Six> Ah, sorry to jump ahead. :)
[10:51] <BadKitty> I guess we register....
[10:51] <arthursc> hi can someone help me with adding the following line to rc.local so I can get my wifi LED working the line I need to add is  echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ipw2200/0000:02:03.0/led but not sure where to add it.
[10:51] <JohnM555> morphish: let me check again
[10:51] <CHR1Six> So... is there anyone here that can help with a netinstall issue or not really? Sadly the ubuntu forums are lacking in this one too
[10:52] <morphish> arthurb: anywhere in rc.local
[10:52] <baastrup> hi, my laptop dies now and then, looks like a heating problem, its a intel centrino duo core 2, and the  gnome sensor applet says the the cpu is like 98 C
[10:52] <JohnM555> for eth2 it lists things, and for ath0 it lists things
[10:52] <arthursc> ok.
[10:52] <variant> arthursc: run that command dont add it to anything, the echo 1 > /path/to/file will "echo" the digit 1 in the the file
[10:52] <MrKeuner> hi, does anybody use mpd with ubuntu here?
[10:52] <baastrup> but my cpu fan issent doing anything
[10:52] <wweasel> JohnM555: Hmmm...well, you could probably get a network-manager deb to your main computer via USB Key or whatever, but that shouldn't be necessary. It should work without network-manager, it just simplifies things.
[10:53] <morphish> Johan666: do you have something in your pcmcia slot? and something built in?
[10:53] <JohnM555> I actually have two wireless cards, but with windows my netgear(actually a usb) gets better connection
[10:53] <MrKeuner> I cannot get my music directory read by mpd with ubuntu built binaries
[10:53] <JohnM555> I think the network-manager is what I need but I didnt find a deb for it
[10:53] <JohnM555> I just found a tar.gz
[10:53] <variant> arthursc: as an example, in gnome-terminal type echo "hello" and press return
[10:53] <Skyrail> StarQuake: ? I can't upgrade until I know waht I'm doing otherwise I'll mess it all up again
[10:53] <morphish> JohnM555: check dmesg which is which
[10:53] <BadKitty> yah download that john
[10:53] <cafuego_> JohnM555: network-manager-gnome is in ubuntu
[10:53] <MrKeuner> JohnM555: ddid you enable additional repositories universe and multiverse?
[10:53] <Duesentrieb> gyaresu: ok, swicthed all sources.list entries to edgy and trying an upgrade - if it fails, i'll blame it all on you :)
[10:53] <cafuego_> don't be messing with tarballs
[10:53] <variant> arthursc: you can redirect the output to a file with the ">" symbol (its called greaterthan)
[10:53] <JohnM555> morphish: dmesg?
[10:53] <Cool> back
[10:54] <gyaresu> Duesentrieb, Yep :)
[10:54] <rBlong2us> I get this error
[10:54] <JohnM555> Oh, and I have been transfering things via usb
[10:54] <morphish> Johan666: in your terminal type 'dmesg | more'
[10:54] <variant> arthursc: if you want to _add_ to a file rather than replace whatever is allready there you have to use >>
[10:54] <JohnM555> ok
[10:54] <rBlong2us> isa0060/serio0).
[10:54] <rBlong2us> [ 2842.754898]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 62 <keycode>' to make it known.
[10:54] <BadKitty> hold on
[10:54] <BadKitty> Cool:brb
[10:54] <wweasel> JohnM555: Nope, network-manager is not necessary. And morphish is on the right track with "iwconfig"
[10:54] <variant> arthursc: you get that?
[10:54] <motin> hello
[10:54] <morphish> JohnM555:  in your terminal type 'dmesg | more'
[10:54] <Cool> okydoky
[10:54] <rBlong2us> [ 2842.737821]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes 62 <keycode>' to make it known.
[10:54] <rBlong2us> [ 2842.754882]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0x62 on isa0060/serio0).
[10:54] <arthursc> VARIANT from terminal window I get permission denied even if I sudo the command. sorry for shouting
[10:54] <T0aD> hi
[10:54] <JohnM555> morphish: I did, it lists a lot of stuff
[10:55] <wweasel> morphish: Why do you use more instead of less?
[10:55] <gyaresu> !hi > T0aD
[10:55] <morphish> JohnM555: that should show what got found and what device it is hopefully
[10:55] <JohnM555> morphish: what exactly am I looking for?
[10:55] <T0aD> how do you make a ramdisk on a kernel < 2.6.15 ?
[10:55] <morphish> wweasel: *shrug* why not?
[10:55] <T0aD> mkinitramfs complains it want a kernel > 2.6.15 for udev
[10:55] <motin> gnome won't respond, so I am in text-mode using ircII here.
[10:55] <wweasel> lol :)
[10:55] <lalox> lol
[10:55] <motin> what do one do? cpu usage is not high - so gnome shouldnt be occupied - it just wont respond
[10:55] <variant> arthursc: in irc type va and press the tab key :)
[10:55] <tRSS>  i want to be able to connect to existing bash session. e.g. I want to be able to ssh into machine from a remote location and then somehow connect to my existing shell running locally to, may be, able to check status of yum? how do I do that?
[10:56] <gyaresu> T0aD, Any reason you can't get the latest kernel?
[10:56] <T0aD> gyaresu, i need a custom kernel
[10:56] <JohnM555> Its way too much stuff for me to look at when I don't know what I'm looking for
[10:56] <arthursc> va
[10:56] <T0aD> Im using a vanilla 2.6.12 kernel for some clustering software
[10:56] <variant> arthursc: lol
[10:56] <Duesentrieb> gyaresu: err- 38 packages will be removed. These include eclipse,  kdelibs-bin, kubuntu-desktop, ubuntu-desktop, x-window-system-core, xserver-xorg.... can that be right? it sounds *very* scary.
[10:56] <variant> arthursc: what irc program are you using?
[10:56] <eidos> how do i make a binary file on linux clickable to run?  properties say it can be executed, and it looks like a gear
[10:56] <T0aD> problem is I have issues booting cause ramdisk aint good (im using LVM + RAID)
[10:56] <JohnM555> I'm going to look for a network-manager deb
[10:56] <morphish> T0aD:  Linux demogorgon 2.6.19-rc4-git12 #1 Wed Nov 8 02:10:33 CST 2006 i686 GNU/Linux w/o a initramfs/initrd though (the splash alone wasn't worth it)
[10:57] <motin> it is always like this - nobody responds because the message is drowned in all conversation
[10:57] <variant> eidos: then you should be able to click run it
[10:57] <arthursc> looking....
[10:57] <gyaresu> T0aD, has to be that version?
[10:57] <T0aD> yes :(
[10:57] <rBlong2us> to restart X should I ctrlaltback?
[10:57] <BadKitty> Hey Cool: Did you get your nick registered?
[10:57] <arthursc> gaim
[10:57] <eidos> a box opens up and it says Run With..
[10:57] <variant> arthursc: ok, in a terminal type "sudo gedit /etc/rc.local"
[10:57] <motin> is there any trick to get gnome to respond again?
[10:57] <Cool> How do i do that?
[10:57] <eidos> it's a compiled freebasic binary
[10:57] <BadKitty> type /msg NickServ REGISTER password
[10:57] <snook353> do i need to remove network manager to use netswitch?
[10:57] <mirak> fuck ati, I can't believe what they answered to my bug report on their website http://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&ticketID=1131314
[10:57] <eidos> i can run from the konsole ok
[10:58] <Cool> im usin IRC and GAIM first time
[10:58] <radioaktivstorm> hello, I apparently have an issue with my swap....there is none. what do i do?
[10:58] <JohnM555> morphish..or anyone: Would the network-manager be on the liveCD
[10:58] <motin> hello?
[10:58] <LjL> !language | mirak
[10:58] <ubotu> mirak: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[10:58] <arthursc> ok rc.local loaded
[10:58] <motin> it is like one is invisible
[10:58] <variant> arthursc: scratch that, do this instead
[10:58] <arthursc> ok
[10:58] <nette> hey: can someone redirect me to a channel with linux games. i.e the game "Glest"?
[10:58] <BadKitty> Yah im pretty new too.. I just used looked it up
[10:58] <MrKeuner> !help
[10:58] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl  -  Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[10:58] <motin> what do one do? cpu usage is not high - so gnome shouldnt be occupied - it just wont respond
[10:58] <morphish> JohnM555: no idea, i am setting up my wifi with a little file i carried from gentoo over SourceMage to kubuntu, i just run that from rc.local
[10:58] <motin> is there any trick to get gnome to respond again?
[10:59] <eidos> mirak - wont let me see the response, have to be logged in as a user to see it
[10:59] <variant> arthursc: sudo gedit /etc/rc.local
[10:59] <JohnM555> That went right over my head :\
[10:59] <motin> it is always like this - nobody responds because the message is drowned in all conversation
[10:59] <morphish> mirak: can't see your ticket
[10:59] <mirak> LjL: *bip* ati *bip* ati bip *ati* , I think any children learn in school what to make fit in
[10:59] <mirak> lol
[10:59] <variant> arthursc: and put this line BEFORE the bit that says exit 0: echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ipw2200/0000:02:03.0/led
[10:59] <snook353> is it ok to remove network manager?
[10:59] <mirak> ok I pastebin
[10:59] <StarQuake> Skyrail, hehe that might be a good idea
[10:59] <snook353> does it conflict with netswitch, or other network manager-like things?
[10:59] <CHR1Six> Does anyone here have experience with ubuntu net install ?
[11:00] <StarQuake> Skyrail, though i don't think there is a big chance you will mess things up
[11:00] <motin> too bad #ubuntu is so crowded - very few can get help
[11:00] <BadKitty> Anyone use beryl in here?
[11:00] <arthursc> done
[11:00] <Skyrail> StarQuake: last time I upgraded, I don't know if it was that or something else but when I loged on the screen was just the background nothing else started up
[11:00] <JohnM555> I found this site for the network-manager: http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/ but I can't find any devs, just the tar.gz
[11:00] <eidos> not really motin, i get help here all the time
[11:00] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell BadKitty about beryl
[11:00] <JohnM555> debs*
[11:00] <Duesentrieb> guys, is it normal that essential-looking packages like xserver-xorg are listed for removal when dist-upgrading to edgy?
[11:00] <eidos> i see 988 nicks :)
[11:00] <BadKitty> Im using Beryl....
[11:01] <BadKitty> Just wanted to see if anyone else was
[11:01] <variant> arthursc: ok, it should work now
[11:01] <morphish> JohnM555: network-manager-gnome - network management framework (GNOME frontend)  , someone told you that already
[11:01] <eidos> motin - u need help?
[11:01] <BadKitty> John, do you know what the tar.gz is?
[11:01] <mirak> eidos: morphish : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30684/
[11:01] <arthursc> do I need to reboot or restart desktop ?
[11:01] <variant> arthursc: Duesentrieb nope, thats a breakage
[11:01] <JohnM555> morphis: oh ok I'll look again
[11:01] <variant> arthursc: to make it happen automaticaly you would have to reboot but you can just echo it to the device your self
[11:02] <variant> arthursc: so you dont need to reboot
[11:02] <StarQuake> Skyrail, mmm okay... too bad
[11:02] <Duesentrieb> variant: hm? what he said or what I said?
[11:02] <variant> Duesentrieb: sorry, ment you only
[11:02] <eidos> i guess they're not in the open sourced business
[11:02] <variant> Duesentrieb: breakage
[11:02] <Duesentrieb> variant: that'S a *scary* breakage, then :(
[11:02] <JohnM555> These are the only downloads for it I can find
[11:02] <JohnM555> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/NetworkManager/0.6/
[11:02] <CHR1Six> Hey, can anyone help me out for a few?
[11:02] <morphish> JohnM555: and it apt-cache does not list it or apt-get refuses to install it, make sure you check if you need to add universe or multivers to sources.list (i have no idea in which repo it is in)
[11:02] <dtorres> anyone know something better than rdesktop for terminal services
[11:03] <variant> Duesentrieb: yeah, if you uninstall and reinstall all those package it should go away
[11:03] <morphish> dtorres: to connect to windows? no
[11:03] <JohnM555> morphis: don't I need the internet to do that?
[11:03] <mwe> I want to access a host on a different subnet than my own. I can't ping it. Do I have to add an entry to the kernel routing table or what?
[11:03] <motin> eidos: yes well I needed help - now I restarted gdm and am restarting every program that was running - it was easier than trying to get help here on how to unfreeze gnome or look for material to bugreport
[11:03] <variant> !rdp
[11:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about rdp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:03] <motin> ciao
[11:03] <nette> hey: can someone redirect me to a channel with linux games. i.e the game "Glest"?
[11:03] <eidos> you know what.. if it weren't for the games available for the PC, I see no future for it - including Vista
[11:03] <CHR1Six> motin - use ctrl+alt+backspace to restart gnome :)
[11:03] <arthursc> ok Variant. Thanks will reboot to verify inless there is another way?
[11:03] <Duesentrieb> variant: i'm not going to uninstall kdelib :) anyway, a plain "upgrade" instead of "dist-upgrade" doesn't want to remove anything.
[11:03] <gyaresu> !offtopic > eidos  (busy enough here as it is)
[11:03] <BadKitty> Cool....
[11:04] <variant> arthursc: yes, you dont need to reboot
[11:04] <eidos> sorry
[11:04] <morphish> mirak: i think your chipset is no longer supported in ati drivers past 8.28.8 and you need to stick to 8.28.8
[11:04] <psusi> lk11mn: ok, new package uploaded
[11:04] <BadKitty> Cool: Are you registered yet?
[11:04] <gnomefreak> Duesentrieb: remove libqt3-mt if you no longer what kde
[11:04] <CHR1Six> hey - can anyone offer some help for a minute?
[11:04] <lk11mn> cool, thx psusi
[11:04] <variant> arthursc: just type: echo 1 > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ipw2200/0000:02:03.0/led
[11:04] <arthursc> wifi LED is still not lit?
[11:04] <variant> arthursc: as root
[11:04] <mirak> morphish: it's not true
[11:04] <gyaresu> CHR1Six, you're having the netinstall prob right?
[11:04] <CHR1Six> yeah.
[11:04] <kosnick> i need to connect my k750 mobile with kandy . what is the port i have to use?
[11:04] <Duesentrieb> variant: otoh, a normal upgrade only gives 158 packages to upgrade - instead of > 1000 with dist-upgrade.
[11:04] <variant> Duesentrieb: yeah
[11:04] <arthursc> I get permission denied!
[11:04] <james296> how can I install the new NVIDIA driver for Ubuntu? I mean, how can I exit the X session and be able to install it?
[11:04] <Duesentrieb> so, it seems nither works for me :(
[11:05] <Cool> hello
[11:05] <variant> arthursc: as root?
[11:05] <CHR1Six> i don't know if anyone here can help much, but if you hae any thoughts i would like to know them. :)
[11:05] <BadKitty> Cool: did you register?
[11:05] <gyaresu> Duesentrieb, You have to 'update' then 'upgrade' then 'dist-upgrade'
[11:05] <variant> james296: type /etc/init.d/gdm stop in a terminal
[11:05] <arthursc> cho 1 > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ipw2200/0000:02:03.0/led
[11:05] <Cool> I cant
[11:05] <variant> james296: you can do that from inside gnome
[11:05] <BadKitty> James.. you can install it in the x session by opening up a terminal
[11:05] <variant> arthursc: echo
[11:05] <arthursc> bash: command not found
[11:05] <morphish> JohnM555: you have no ethernet in that thing? anyway so you have an eth? and ath0 just dhclient ath0, then wait and see if you get IP (presuming all your essid, key, channel and all was right for them) if nothing goes, try it for eth? one of them has to get an ip if your AP supports dhcp
[11:05] <dtorres> in rdesktop when i scroll through text i see doubles of every line
[11:05] <BadKitty> cool: Why not what does it say?
[11:05] <variant> arthursc: what?
[11:05] <Duesentrieb> gyaresu: the update is already done - didn't know i need a normal upgrade before a dist-upgrade... seems a bit strange... but i'll try.
[11:05] <variant> arthursc: thats what happens when you do that?
[11:06] <james296> no, it tells me I need to be logged out of the x session
[11:06] <mirak> morphish: otherwise I couldn't get 3D on 8.30 drivers, but I get it. The problem is that I must disable the DRM_RADEON module, otherwise it doesn't work. It was the case even one year ago, and probably even before. you can find tons of people with radeon 9600 pro complaining about such a problem, of dri not working, but nobody seems to care
[11:06] <Duesentrieb> gyaresu: or should i use update-manager?
[11:06] <kosnick> i need to connect my mobile with kandy (=mobile application) . what port do i have to use?
[11:06] <JohnM555> um..
[11:06] <gyaresu> Duesentrieb, nah. manually is best.
[11:06] <BadKitty> james...hm...ok
[11:06] <T0aD> gyaresu, any hint ?
[11:06] <morphish> JohnM555: once you have internet, go and install that thing, or copy it onto something on the machine you irc from, and copy it back to the laptop, either way
[11:06] <gyaresu> T0aD, about what?
[11:06] <arthursc> LOL missed the E.... Working now great stuff many thanks...
[11:06] <mirak> morphish: and it's not even related to ubuntu, all users have this problem
[11:06] <variant> arthursc: no permission denied error?
[11:06] <variant> arthursc: good, is the light on?
[11:06] <gyaresu> T0aD, Recaps please...
[11:06] <morphish> mirak: i know it is not a ubuntu problem, what were you refering to as "not true" ?
[11:07] <variant> arthursc: chang ethat to a 0 to turn it back off again :P
[11:07] <arthursc> yep oh and ...what about blue tooth???
[11:07] <kosnick> kandy app : what port is my mobile ?
[11:07] <dtorres> whats the best samba gui client to connect to windows shares?
[11:07] <T0aD> how do you make a ramdisk on a kernel < 2.6.15 ?
[11:07] <BadKitty> Cool type this: /msg NickServ REGISTER password (but use your own  password instead of the word password)
[11:07] <j2daosh> ls
[11:07] <variant> arthursc: you could bind that to a key combo and use it for morse code signals ;)
[11:07] <variant> arthursc: what about bluetooth?
[11:07] <dtorres> anyone?
[11:07] <kosnick> ubuntu + mobiles ?
[11:07] <variant> arthursc: i have never used bluetooth tbh, so i have no idea about it
[11:08] <gyaresu> dtorres, imho smb4k
[11:08] <LjL> variant: .-. . .- .-.. .-.. -.-- ?
[11:08] <kamui> need a little help, Im trying to compile nzbget on a fresh ubuntu dapper system.  I tried to ./configure but it said gcc was missing.  So I did an apt-get install gcc.  Now when I run configure it says c compiler cannot create executables and dies.  What do I need to do to get a suitable build environment?
[11:08] <marshall> does anybody know where i can get a silc account?
[11:08] <psusi> lk11mn: you got that going yet?
[11:08] <variant> LjL: what?
[11:08] <Cool> what did i have to type to register again?
[11:08] <dtorres> k will try that ty
[11:08] <gyaresu> dtorres, you can just use konqueror.. (don't know about gnome progs)
[11:08] <variant> LjL: ah sorry hahahaha
[11:08] <LjL> variant: i asked "really?" :-P
[11:08] <dtorres> im actually using kde :)
[11:08] <BadKitty> type: /msg NickServ REGISTER yourownpassword
[11:08] <arthursc> ok ignore bluetooth. 1 didn'f turn it off!
[11:08] <gyaresu> kamui, build-essential
[11:08] <kosnick> ubuntu + mobiles?
[11:08] <variant> LjL: i dont speak morse :) i learned a bit when younger though
[11:08] <arthursc> sorry 0
[11:08] <st4hl> hi, is it possible to turn off motd message when i login into my ubuntu box?
[11:08] <marshall> kamui, apt-get install build-essential
[11:08] <variant> arthursc: try 2
[11:08] <st4hl> "Ubuntu comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by
[11:08] <st4hl> applicable law.
[11:08] <st4hl> this thing?
[11:08] <snook353> does network-manager conflict with netswitch, or other network-manager-like things?
[11:09] <snook353> like wifi radar?
[11:09] <marshall> does anybody know where i can get a silc account?
[11:09] <variant> st4hl: yeah lemmy chekc what file it is
[11:09] <lk11mn> psusi: nope, just installing now
[11:09] <gyaresu> st4hl, just make the file blank
[11:09] <st4hl> thanks a bunch variant
[11:09] <LjL> st4hl: sudo nano /etc/motd
[11:09] <st4hl> ahh its motd
[11:09] <st4hl> nod, thanks alot
[11:09] <snook353> synaptic says no, but since network manager is running, idk
[11:09] <psusi> kamui: apt-get install build-essential
[11:09] <arthursc> by default 0 is no LED and 1 is LED
[11:09] <Weed_Man> Hi! I'm using Edgy 6.10 for AMD64, but the bcm43xx driver for Braodcom 4318 wireless is working bad (it loses connection after a while). The developers recommended I upgrade the kernel to 2.6.18, but there seems like there are no Ubuntu versions for that kernel. Any suggestions?
[11:09] <JohnM555> neither dhclient ath0 or eth0 worked
[11:09] <st4hl> i couldnt find it for some reason thought it was something else
[11:09] <variant> st4hl: /etc/motd
[11:09] <st4hl> yah thanks guys
[11:09] <variant> st4hl: slocate motd
[11:09] <variant> st4hl: slocate is your friend
[11:09] <JohnM555> I don't have ehternet, if I did I wouldn't need wireless
[11:09] <kefah> Hi, I'm looking for a decent review comparing ubuntu to fc6
[11:10] <variant> kefah: google
[11:10] <st4hl> lol i need to install slocate :P
[11:10] <dnite> is there a way to get vlc or totem to work with wmv streams ??
[11:10] <variant> kefah: google ubuntu vs fc6
[11:10] <kamui> psusi: thanks big time
[11:10] <variant> st4hl: no, it comes with it
[11:10] <kamui> :)
[11:10] <gyaresu> kefah, ^^
[11:10] <JohnM555> I know I've got to be doing something stupid...it shouldn't be this hard to get wireless working
[11:10] <kefah> variant, I know I did that. The thing is I want something that I can trust.
[11:10] <st4hl> i dont have it
[11:10] <variant> st4hl: run updatedb
[11:10] <lk11mn> psusi: after installing it, it has the 2 raw raids in mapper
[11:10] <Weed_Man> anyone upgraded edgy to 2.6.18?
[11:10] <morphish> mirak: hm 9600 seems to be in 8.30.x *shrug*
[11:10] <variant> st4hl: it comes with ubuntu so i can't imagine that you dont
[11:10] <psusi> klajrhgjkl345?!
[11:10] <gyaresu> kefah, distrowatch
[11:11] <variant> st4hl: unless your typeing it wrong
[11:11] <variant> slocate
[11:11] <psusi> argh
[11:11] <st4hl> no i dont have it
[11:11] <psusi> I am a retard
[11:11] <st4hl> 6.10 lamp didn't have it installed
[11:11] <psusi> stupid typo... trying again
[11:11] <lk11mn> psusi: and i tried dmraid -an, and i get an ERROR opening "/dev/isw_hebacbgjj_DATA"
[11:11] <kosnick> anyone ever used "KANDY"?
[11:11] <variant> st4hl: how stupid, its an essential package. ubuntu's command line support is laughable
[11:11] <JohnM555> I have no idea what I'm doing
[11:12] <st4hl> mmm i installed it and now i get
[11:12] <JohnM555> I've tried so many things
[11:12] <st4hl> slocate: fatal error: Could not find user database '/var/lib/slocate/slocate.db':  No such file or directory
[11:12] <variant> st4hl: i would personaly never use ubuntu on a server.. its a desktop os through and through
[11:12] <arthursc> exit
[11:12] <st4hl> so i do updatedb
[11:12] <variant> st4hl: yeah, as i say. run updatedb as root
[11:12] <kosnick> anyone ever used "kandy"?
[11:12] <st4hl> yeah cool it works
[11:12] <Weed_Man> If I compile a vanilla kernel, will I lose all Ubuntu goodies?
[11:13] <st4hl> thanks a bunch man
[11:13] <variant> st4hl: yw
[11:13] <FlyingSquirrel32> I the previous version of ubuntu I could go to System> Drives or something like that and mount drives and stuff. Is there any replacement for this?
[11:13] <Amaranth> FlyingSquirrel32: No, it was removed from GNOME (and thus Ubuntu) because it was really buggy.
[11:13] <variant> st4hl: remember that if your looking for a file that has recently been added you have to updatedb first (it is run as a cron job every day though)
[11:14] <FlyingSquirrel32> is there any gui way to mount drives now?
[11:14] <mirak> morphish: all cards are supported from 8500 at least
[11:14] <st4hl> nod 'll add it to cron
[11:14] <variant> st4hl: and you cant use it to find files that the user running it doesnt have permission to read
[11:14] <snook353> for any newbies wondering, this is my answer to removing network-manager:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=113715
[11:14] <variant> st4hl: iirc, the installation hsould set up a cron job but check anyway
[11:14] <st4hl> how would i check this?
[11:14] <st4hl> cron.daily?
[11:15] <variant> st4hl: check roots crontab
[11:15] <variant> st4hl: yeah
[11:15] <morphish> mirak: on 8.29.x i read the release notes and it mentioned that support was drpped and to use 8.28.8 for those, maybe someone goofed on the site redesign
[11:15] <gyaresu> st4hl, 'sudo crontab -l'
[11:15] <psusi> lk11mn: ok... reboot one more time and this time I should have it ;)
[11:15] <st4hl> yeah its been added to /etc/cron.daily
[11:15] <st4hl> nod, thanks again guys =)
[11:15] <variant> st4hl: cool
[11:15] <mirak> morphish: I added that maybe he believed I wasn't talking of fglrx
[11:15] <lk11mn> lol yay
[11:15] <james296> how come when I exit the X session its just a cursor thing and I type and nothing happens?
[11:15] <morphish> mirak: perhaps it said 9250 and below though
[11:16] <mirak> morphish: probably he tough I wasn't talking of their own driver. I wouldn't have posted there anyway
[11:16] <morphish> mirak: but yes, the answer does look like he was not talking about fglrx at all, since they should know their own driver
[11:16] <Ballex> goran?
[11:16] <mirak> morphish: I am 100% sure it's supported, but there is a bug for this card
[11:16] <JohnM555> Why does so much of this for setting up wireless expect people to have internet access, when they need wireless to get to the internet?
[11:16] <rzoad> ja
[11:17] <mirak> morphish: yes I answered something like that. that I was a bit surprise they don't know they have a linux driver called fglrx ^^
[11:17] <LjL> JohnM555: because we don't have a better option right now.
[11:17] <Zeike> I'm installing 6.10 from CD and the install fails at 71% every time. Interface is frozen except for mouse. Anyone seen that? Any way for me to see what's going on? verbose install or something?
[11:17] <JohnM555> Ok
[11:17] <morphish> JohnM555: because you have the tools to do it manually, and most people plug in an ethernet cable for the install and then never again, after the install is done
[11:17] <variant> JohnM555: yes, its a very annoying situation. caused entirely by the hardware manufacturers, it will probably be annohter year before it's surpased the ease with which windows users handle wifi
[11:17] <james296> well?
[11:17] <gyaresu> Zeike, Possibly error on cd/ cdrom bad laser/ dodgy ram
[11:18] <JohnM555> I don't understand why they would use wireless if they had an ethernet cable
[11:18] <variant> JohnM555: laptops
[11:18] <grndslm> any advice for a "good value" linux-compatible scanner?
[11:18] <Ballex> Im a noob, can i get some help?
[11:18] <JohnM555> But don't most people use desktops?
[11:18] <gyaresu> !helpme > Ballex
[11:18] <Ballex> hu?
[11:18] <gyaresu> JohnM555, No.
[11:18] <variant> JohnM555: what diference does that make?
[11:18] <morphish> JohnM555: because it is there before wifi, any cd boots and eth0 grabs an IP, long before wifi needs YOUR WEP info
[11:18] <codeyman> grndslm,HP
[11:19] <JohnM555> Alright...whatever
[11:19] <timo90> stil stuck on network lol
[11:19] <gyaresu> Ballex, That means yes. Just ask.
[11:19] <Zeike> gyaresu, ok thanks i'll check er out
[11:19] <Ballex> im trying to boot ubuntu from a cd, but it doesnt work
[11:19] <grndslm> codeyman, all HPs, or is there one in particular?
[11:19] <shrndegruv> guys how do i tell which ati driver i am using?
[11:19] <codeyman> well most of them do
[11:19] <variant> JohnM555: i am typeing this on a laptop, how many business men have you seen take a desktop pc to a meeting or conference? (none)
[11:19] <JohnM555> Oh, I'm not saying nobody uses laptops
[11:19] <morphish> shredder: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep river
[11:20] <fabio__> days ago i have seen on ubuntu websites a kind of "official" sources.list for edgy eft, can someone give me that wiki link? thanks
[11:20] <variant> JohnM555: hundereds of millions of people use laptops
[11:20] <Ballex> i get a message about som graphic X or something
[11:20] <JohnM555> variant: I'm just saying I think a lot of people using Ubuntu would use it on a desktop, thats all
[11:20] <codeyman> hey anyone knows how to set a user disk quota in ubuntu?
[11:20] <gyaresu> shrndegruv, glxinfo
[11:20] <JohnM555> variant: I'm on a laptop right now! I know tons of people use laptops
[11:20] <Ballex> i use AMD 64
[11:20] <MugginsM> I'm unsure why you'd use wireless on a desktop when wired is faster
[11:20] <Infecto> hi
[11:20] <MugginsM> and it has to have power cables anyway
[11:20] <variant> JohnM555: if you like, but i dont see what difference it makes as to whether or not you use ubuntu if you have a desktop or a laptop
[11:20] <gyaresu> !offtopic > JohnM555
[11:20] <crass> JohnM555: I think ubuntu is great for laptops, its hibernate support is pretty good
[11:20] <Infecto> maybe someone run fingerprint ?
[11:21] <morphish> JohnM555: i always wire my laptop for installs, it is too annoying having to wait for an IP till i fired up my wifi, i take my tie, set it all up, then unplug it when i am done, one time deal, and also avoids my neighbor's AP going haywire causing my AP to drop me
[11:21] <shrndegruv> dont see a driver version in glxinfo
[11:21] <shrndegruv> xorg.conf says ati
[11:21] <shrndegruv> is that open source
[11:21] <shrndegruv> ?
[11:21] <morphish> shrndegruv: that is OSS, yes
[11:21] <Ballex> what may the problem be?
[11:21] <fabio__> does someone have the link to the ubuntu wiki where there is the suggested sources.list ? thanks
[11:21] <Zeike> gyaresu, good call. got a failed checksum on the cd test
[11:21] <shrndegruv> sweet
[11:21] <shrndegruv> i followed a guide to get beryl running
[11:21] <JohnM555> morphish: I wish I could do that with my desktop :\
[11:21] <codeyman>  morphish, ATI drivers are not OSS
[11:21] <shrndegruv> it has you set up an xgl desktop session
[11:21] <Vanuatoo_> does anyone know how to download vmware-workstation with wget?
[11:21] <gyaresu> shrndegruv, right at the top of the output... 'glxinfo |less'
[11:21] <shrndegruv> which doesnt work
[11:22] <Vanuatoo_> or point me to any mirror?
[11:22] <shrndegruv> but when i start normal gnome, beryl works with all acutremens
[11:22] <JohnM555> I found the network-manager deb online and transfered it to my ubuntu, but when I tried to install it, it said 'Error: Dependancy is not satisfiable: libnl1-pre6
[11:22] <gyaresu> Vanuatoo_, should be in the repos. so available with apt-get
[11:22] <codeyman> Vanuatoo_, u need to get a trial licence no from vmware.com... which will allow you to download a 30 day trial version
[11:22] <JohnM555> What do I do?
[11:22] <variant> JohnM555: what? gnome-network-manager?
[11:23] <JohnM555> This: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/download.pl?arch=amd64&file=pool%2Fmain%2Fn%2Fnetwork-manager%2Fnetwork-manager_0.6.3-2ubuntu6_amd64.deb&md5sum=86e5021f041a25757dcef33c5ee2355d&arch=amd64&type=main
[11:23] <Vanuatoo_> codeyman: I do it with firefox but sometimes download manager sucks
[11:23] <Vanuatoo_> gyaresu: which repo?
[11:23] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> -is happy-
[11:23] <codeyman> Vanuatoo_, well that is the only way... u wont find it in repos... u will find vmware-player... not workstation
[11:24] <JohnM555> variant: I think its gnome
[11:24] <Vanuatoo_> yes, there is only player
[11:24] <variant> JohnM555: type apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[11:24] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> I got a question
[11:24] <variant> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: just ask
[11:24] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> do I need to install my graphic card driver?
[11:24] <timo90> Darn thing wont work
[11:24] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> I know variant lol
[11:24] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> >.>
[11:24] <gyaresu> Vanuatoo_, the ubuntu multiverse
[11:24] <variant> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: what graphics card?
[11:24] <JohnM555> variante: ok
[11:24] <morphish> codeyman: he said wjat i told him to grep, and ati is OSS, if it had returned fglrx, it would be the proprietary ati driver, ok?
[11:24] <Ballex> Looking for help: Im trying to boot Ubuntu from a CD, but it wont install, and gives some errormessage about "Graphic X" or something, does anybody have a clue what that means?
[11:24] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> crap
[11:24] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> It's some intel ingreated crqap
[11:24] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> crap
[11:24] <variant> JohnM555: tip: in irc type var and press the tab key
[11:25] <variant> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: no, it is allready installed then
[11:25] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> oh :o
[11:25] <morphish> Vanuatoo_: get vmware-server it is FREE, no 30 day trial bidness, go fetch it now ;)
[11:25] <JohnM555> variant: Oh, nice. Sorry for mistyping :)
[11:25] <gyaresu> Ballex, Well you ignored me before...
[11:25] <Ballex> what do you mean?
[11:25] <Vanuatoo_> I found that file on gentoo mirror, thanks everyone :)
[11:25] <JohnM555> variant: shouldn't double clicking the deb also install it?
[11:25] <variant> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: open a terminal and type "glxinfo | grep direct
[11:25] <variant> JohnM555: use the package manager
[11:26] <marshall> does anybody know where i can get a silc account?
[11:26] <marshall> does anybody know where i can get a SILC account?
[11:26] <lk11mn> psusi: ok, i guess its a good sign that there's nothing in the mapper folder, but there's no sign of anything in dev
[11:26] <variant> LGKeiz-Ubuntu: if it says yes your fine, if no then you have to figure out why not, i am about to skype with my gf so somone else will have to help you in that case
[11:26] <JohnM555> variant: I can do that with stuff already on my computer? I transfered it via usb because my ubuntu isn't connected to the internet
[11:26] <timo90> Any one set up there ubuntu pc to a network yet ?
[11:27] <psusi> lk11mn: pastebin me the output of dmraid -ay -vvvv -dddd
[11:27] <JohnM555> timo90: I wish.
[11:27] <FlyingSquirrel32> Amaranth: is there any way to mount a partition via the gui?
[11:27] <morphish> timo90: everyone who is here has set it up !?
[11:27] <timo90> what about internet connection shearing
[11:27] <lk11mn> ok, whats -dddd mean?
[11:27] <morphish> ok, everyone but JohnM555
[11:27] <variant> JohnM555: ah, thats annoying. put it in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:27] <timo90> morphish: Correct
[11:27] <variant> JohnM555: but it wont work unless its the package version that apt-get wants
[11:27] <sholden> has anyone had success installing synergy (with or without quicksynergy) on Edgy?
[11:27] <JohnM555> morphish: yea :\. I gues I'm just slow.
[11:27] <DShepherd> what's the name of the package for the opensource nv drivers?
[11:27] <morphish> timo90: look into ipkungfu a script making things dead easy to deal with
[11:28] <variant> DShepherd: those are part of the kernel and are allready installed
[11:28] <JohnM555> variant: OK I'll try that
[11:28] <FlyingSquirrel32> timo90: is that where you cut off all of your internet connections? :)  Just kidding.
[11:28] <psusi> lk11mn: turns on all the debug output
[11:28] <morphish> JohnM555: i think you are too worried about that gui to actually work on your problem
[11:28] <foomanchew> hey yall
[11:28] <DShepherd> variant: ok
[11:28] <gyaresu> DShepherd, variant xserver-xorg-driver-nv
[11:28] <timo90> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh comedians ;)
[11:28] <DShepherd> gyaresu: ah.. that is the name thanks
[11:28] <Ballex> gyaresu?
[11:28] <JohnM555> morphish: probably, but I've tried so much other stuff that I must have done wrong
[11:29] <JohnM555> morphish: I was happy to just get the driver installed
[11:29] <radioaktivstorm> hello, I apparently have an issue with my swap....there is none. what do i do?
[11:29] <lk11mn> psusi: http://pastebin.com/820054
[11:29] <variant> gyaresu: that has been removed from the kernel? or is that just the kernel module package
[11:29] <morphish> JohnM555: you can /msg me if you want, msg me every commandline of iwconfig you issued and maybe we can figure out what's missing
[11:30] <lk11mn> psusi: maybe that worked and i'm just not seeing what i expected
[11:30] <fabio__> when i run sudo apt-get upgrade, what does mean "1 package not updated"
[11:30] <fabio__> why it is not updated?
[11:30] <foomanchew> I am having issues with rhythmbox .... error while loading shared libraries: libnautilus-burn.so.3: cannot open shared object file
[11:30] <foomanchew> this is after upgd to edgy
[11:30] <psusi> lk11mn: hrm... it sais there was an error due to the mirror module missing... modprobe dm-mirror and try again
[11:30] <JohnM555> morphish: ok, once I fail to get the gui working, which will be pretty soon.
[11:30] <foomanchew> any ideas
[11:30] <foomanchew> would be appreciated
[11:31] <Duesentrieb> hrmm... /var/lib/dpkg/info/app-install-data-commercial.postinst: line 3: update-app-install: command not found
[11:31] <Duesentrieb> what does that mean?
[11:31] <marshall> can anybody recommend a method of secure IM?
[11:31] <knapp> I am having a problem with Konversation, the Server List pops up when I open it, has no buttons, and will not close.
[11:31] <foomanchew> marshall, use tor
[11:31] <morphish> JohnM555: ok, once you have that .deb and every .deb it depends on, let me know if you need anymore help, afk for a few
[11:31] <marshall> foomanchew, thats not im though is it?
[11:31] <Duesentrieb> marshall: jaber supports encryption via gpg
[11:31] <DShepherd> knapp: you may get better help in the #kubuntu channel
[11:31] <Duesentrieb> jabber
[11:31] <morphish> marshall: or use gaim with ssl plugin
[11:32] <knapp> DShepherd, thanks I thought I WAS in the kubuntu channel, haha
[11:32] <foomanchew> marshall, no its an anonymizer
[11:32] <DShepherd> knapp: ok
[11:32] <morphish> marshall: to get the other side to use a secure gaim too is the tricky part
[11:33] <Trainstroker> help phillip@ubuntu:~/Desktop/FahMon/src$ ./fahmon
[11:33] <Trainstroker> ./fahmon: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2_xrc-2.6.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:33] <timo90> just got that ipkungfu
[11:33] <JohnM555> I need the dependency libnl1-pref6, but I don't know where to find it
[11:33] <lk11mn> psusi:  like this  -        sudo modprobe dm-mirror
[11:33] <lk11mn>    ? i dont think that's doing anything?
[11:33] <Trainstroker> where do shared libraries go?
[11:33] <JohnM555> variant: I tried puting the deb in the directory you told me, but I couldn't even copy and paste it there :\
[11:34] <lk11mn> well i got the same result from dmraid -ay -vvvv -dddd   (well it looked the same at a glance :P)
[11:34] <psusi> lk11mn: it won't show any output
[11:34] <psusi> hrm...
[11:34] <psusi> hold on a second...
[11:36] <timo90> i have installed ipkungfu how do i get to it (no icon)
[11:36] <zwnj> my dapper server hangs periodically, even after installing amd64-k8.  may it be because of restricted modules?
[11:36] <lk11mn> timo90: im a complete nub but have you tried ipkungfu in the terminal?
[11:38] <Kytherean> selam
[11:38] <Zarephath> Hey folks...asked in kubuntu about boot to a mac powerpc...no one replied...the lived cd boots when using live-powerpc option..however graphics are hosed..it creates like 5 icons of everything and very small...the screen has lines running through it so I can't even contemplate installing...is there a argument I can pass at boot time to kill the extra graphics stuff to get the installer started? Or maybe  a way to boot into text in
[11:38] <dad> Can anyone point me to a remastering howto for dapper please?
[11:38] <Zarephath> This is kubuntu edgy
[11:39] <timo90> lk11mn:dIDNT WORK
[11:39] <lk11mn> timo90: k that was my only idea- try asking again and someone else might no
[11:40] <Stormx2> He left XD
[11:40] <Zarephath> #join kubuntu-ppc
[11:40] <TheGateKeeper> Zarephath: there is an alternate CD which uses a text installer
[11:41] <TheGateKeeper> Zarephath: no idea if it will work on your arch
[11:41] <Zarephath> TheGateKeeper: Thanks...you remember the name of it? The iso that is
[11:41] <psusi> lk11mn: modprobe dm dm-mirror and run dmraid again... and see if it still says RROR: device-mapper target type "mirror" not in kernel
[11:41] <dad> I need to create an installation that includes desktop icons for OpenOffice from boot after install.  Anyone?
[11:42] <JohnM555> When trying to install a package, it tells me 'Dependency is not satisfiable: libnl1-pre6' How can I fix this?
[11:42] <TheGateKeeper> Zarephath: they are all on the wiki, it's just called 'alternate cd'
[11:42] <TheGateKeeper> !iso
[11:42] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[11:42] <Zarephath> K thanks
[11:43] <TheGateKeeper> Zarephath: http://releases.ubuntu.com/6.10/
[11:43] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> I love this.
[11:43] <LGKeiz-Ubuntu> lol
[11:43] <marshall> what is the default port for ftp servers?
[11:44] <sanmarcos> 21
[11:44] <hartmut> fkk
[11:44] <sanmarcos> cat /etc/services|grep -i ftp marshall
[11:44] <iter> or grep ftp /etc/services
[11:45] <marshall> sanmarcos, im trying to connect to this public ftp: ftp://80.86.249.14/gaim and i want to do it with nautilus
[11:45] <drew> whats a good program to use for msn?
[11:45] <k31th> yop
[11:45] <k31th> Anyone know how to open a new tab in gnome-terminal i need to script this, as I am making a ssh connect script i want a new session to open a new tab.
[11:45] <SleepySocks> hey everyone I'm getting a 'Failed to Initialize HAL' error after installing PostgreSQL...any ideas????
[11:45] <Duesentrieb> hrm. ok, after setting stuff in sources.list to edgy, i did apt-get upgrade && apt-get update. Seems to have gone fine
[11:45] <Duesentrieb> but apt dist-upgrade still wants to remove packages. essential packages...
[11:45] <sanmarcos> marshall: places > connect to server, just use anoynmous as user, and whatever as  pass
[11:46] <sanmarcos> drew: galaxium, gaim, tmsnc, amsn, kopete
[11:46] <jambla> Is there a way to have video chat in either msn messenger, skype, or yahoo messenger?
[11:46] <foomanchew> I want to compile rhythmbox from source and include support for DAAP ?
[11:46] <lk11mn> psusi: no, i dont think it does...
[11:46] <sanmarcos> jambla: there is preliminary support for msn in amsn, and yahoo in the defunct gaim-vv
[11:46] <mirak> is their a way to step into a bash script ?
[11:46] <sanmarcos> mirak: step ?
[11:46] <psusi> lk11mn: ohh?  ok... pastebin what it says now would you?
[11:47] <mirak> sanmarcos: trace execution
[11:47] <lk11mn> psusi: http://pastebin.com/820066
[11:47] <sanmarcos> SleepySocks: gnome-terminal --tab
[11:47] <sanmarcos> mirak: #!/bin/bash -x might me helpful at the top of the stricpt
[11:47] <foomanchew> I want to compile rhythmbox from source and include support for DAAP ? anyone done it
[11:47] <k31th> Anyone know how to open a new tab in gnome-terminal i need to script this, as I am making a ssh connect script i want a new session to open a new tab.
[11:47] <Stormx2> Yo guys, how can I get a PHP executable on ubuntu? installing "php5" doesn't give me it.
[11:47] <SleepySocks> san marcos, what will that do/
[11:47] <TheGateKeeper> SleepySocks: ubuntu has a habit of loading everything as a module, at a guess hal has either become uninstalled or corrupt, unfortunately I don't know how you would fix it
[11:47] <sanmarcos> k31th: man gnome-terminal
[11:47] <SleepySocks> fstab?
[11:48] <k31th> sanmarcos: I tried that
[11:48] <psusi> lk11mn: but it didn't create the device in /dev?
[11:48] <Kannix_> *ahem*
[11:48] <sanmarcos> SleepySocks: that isnt for you, sorry
[11:48] <Kannix_> I am back :)
[11:48] <TheGateKeeper> !hal
[11:48] <ubotu> hal: Hardware Abstraction Layer. In component main, is optional. Version 0.5.7.1-0ubuntu17 (edgy), package size 347 kB, installed size 1112 kB
[11:48] <Kannix_> Hi all
[11:48] <fabry> hi everyone, could someone help me to confgure an usb wifi dongle?
[11:48] <sanmarcos> k31th: check the other options
[11:48] <sanmarcos> k31th: scripts should be portable
[11:48] <sanmarcos> k31th: if you cant, use screen to make faux tabs
[11:48] <fabry> it doesn't work
[11:48] <psusi> lk11mn: the isw one that is
[11:49] <SleepySocks> gatekeeper, that's what I'm thinking.  I can reinstall the depenencies one by one
[11:49] <sanmarcos> !doesnt work
[11:49] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about doesnt work - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:49] <SleepySocks> I tried reinstalling hal, but no luck
[11:49] <lk11mn> psusi: there's alot of stuff in /dev so i just use that typey thing, and nothing comes up for isw, or sil.... but i looked around those areas too, and no nothing there
[11:49] <fabry> I tried to load ndiswrapper on kernel loading win drivers
[11:49] <mentok> !ndiswrapper
[11:49] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[11:50] <TheGateKeeper> SleepySocks: unfortunately I don't know how you would fix it
[11:50] <psusi> lk11mn: pastebin the output of dmsetup table
[11:50] <fabry> I checked it but it doesn't work
[11:50] <TheGateKeeper> SleepySocks: may be the kernel is not happy, you could try one of your other grub options
[11:50] <SleepySocks> thanks, I'll keep trying or reinstall
[11:51] <SleepySocks> I ask in ubuntu forms and they say it should install on ubuntu desktop fine
[11:51] <yanis> i have an intelx86 pc. should I se the 386 or 686 mplayer package?
[11:51] <TheGateKeeper> SleepySocks: that is true
[11:51] <lk11mn> psusi: no devices found
[11:51] <SleepySocks> I was thinking the same thing, should I use ubuntu server
[11:51] <TheGateKeeper> SleepySocks: is this edgy?
[11:51] <yanis> what is 686 form?
[11:52] <yanis> *fom
[11:52] <yanis> *for
[11:52] <SleepySocks> I only had one reply so it still could be that it should only be installed on server editon
[11:52] <SleepySocks> yes its edgy
[11:52] <psusi> lk11mn: well damnit... I am at a loss
[11:53] <SleepySocks> hate going backwards, but that may be the only solution or ubuntu server
[11:53] <lk11mn> psusi: have you tried higher resolution???
[11:53] <TheGateKeeper> SleepySocks: well you could report it as a bug, you could also build your own kernel & but hal in
[11:53] <lk11mn> psusi: lol well i dunno... i'll prolly give it a rest for tonight and i might go at the howto with bootstrap tomorrow night
[11:53] <SleepySocks> I'll look closely at the postgre and hal installed files and see what I can find
[11:53] <SleepySocks> thaks Gatekeeper
[11:54] <TheGateKeeper> SleepySocks: sorry I could not be more help
[11:54] <nko> hi i have a problem... i would add a new audio track ?on a divx file... how can i do that
[11:54] <TheGateKeeper> SleepySocks: good luck :-)
[11:55] <psusi> lk11mn: if you go that route, you will need to modify /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local-top/dmraid to add the -fsil flag you had to use before
[11:56] <psusi> lk11mn: in fact... why don't you try that again real quick with that flag
[11:56] <psusi> lk11mn: it may just have a problem with your isw raid
[11:56] <psusi> and bails out
[11:56] <nko> someone can help me?
[11:56] <shrndegruv> where do i get gkrellm skins?
[11:57] <SleepySocks> ok, gatekeeper, my first bug report...thanks for all the help
[11:57] <lk11mn> psusi: its like dmraid -an to turn it all off isnt it?
[11:57] <psusi> lk11mn: yea, but if they aren't on, then there is no use turning them off ;)
[11:57] <Trainstroker> ./fahmon: error while loading shared libraries: libwx_gtk2_xrc-2.6.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:58] <lk11mn> lol well that's kinda the msg i got back... anyway
[11:58] <Trainstroker> help i get that error but the file is there
[11:58] <nko> how can i add a new audio track on a divx file?
[11:59] <lk11mn> psusi: its just this isnt it     sudo dmraid -ay sil     (there's no f)
[11:59] <lk11mn> anyway that one doesnt work
[11:59] <Gubluntu> hey
[11:59] <nko> how can i add a new audio track on a divx file?
[12:00] <aios> how can i uninstall a theme?
[12:00] <psusi> lk11mn: it was dmraid -ay -fsil
[12:00] <ameya> server IRC
[12:00] <Answer> Hello, I am running kernel 2.6.15.  Are there any plans for kernel 2.6.16 ?