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| Fry-kun | hi there | 08:04 |
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| Keybuk | heyhey | 08:04 |
| Fry-kun | how is it going | 08:04 |
| Fry-kun | i'm looking for some help configuring upstart on Fedora | 08:05 |
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| Fry-kun | not specific steps but general direction tips | 08:05 |
| Fry-kun | i've already modified the rules to point to proper locations to rc and mingetty, but rcS confuzzles me | 08:06 |
| Fry-kun | and of course i can't boot up without it :( | 08:06 |
| Keybuk | how does it confuzzle? | 08:08 |
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| MarvinR | hello | 08:09 |
| Fry-kun | oh | 08:10 |
| MarvinR | does upstart need more developers? | 08:10 |
| Fry-kun | Fedora doesn't have one | 08:10 |
| Fry-kun | or rather.. i don't know what it does, so i don't know if fedora has an equivalent | 08:11 |
| Keybuk | Fry-kun: interesting, don't suppose you can paste the fedora /etc/inittab file anywhere? | 08:12 |
| Keybuk | MarvinR: patches are always welcome | 08:12 |
| AlexExtreme | Fry-kun: you can find out what you need from /etc/inittab - put the contents of it to some pastebin and i should be able to figure out what you need | 08:13 |
| AlexExtreme | doh, Keybuk beat me to that one... | 08:13 |
| Fry-kun | Keybuk: sure, just a sec | 08:16 |
| Fry-kun | http://pastebin.com/819899 | 08:18 |
| Fry-kun | thanks guys :) | 08:18 |
| AlexExtreme | hold on | 08:19 |
| AlexExtreme | this should do it: http://pastebin.com/819904 | 08:21 |
| Keybuk | Fry-kun: you can probably drop rcS then | 08:21 |
| Keybuk | and just modify rc-default to be start on startup | 08:22 |
| AlexExtreme | no, that won't work, there's a rc.sysinit line there :) | 08:22 |
| Keybuk | oh | 08:23 |
| Keybuk | well write an rc-sysinit job then, and start rc-default when that stops | 08:23 |
| Keybuk | ahh | 08:24 |
| AlexExtreme | my rcS should do it though | 08:24 |
| Keybuk | rc.sysinit is the same as rcS | 08:24 |
| AlexExtreme | correct ;) | 08:24 |
| Keybuk | si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS | 08:24 |
| Keybuk | vs. | 08:24 |
| Keybuk | si::sysinit:/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit | 08:24 |
| Keybuk | so yes, AlexExtreme is right | 08:25 |
| Fry-kun | ooh | 08:26 |
| Fry-kun | cool, i'll try that | 08:26 |
| AlexExtreme | bbl | 08:28 |
| Fry-kun | gonna try booting now... | 08:29 |
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| Fry-kun | result: i was able to boot (and pretty damn fast, too) -- but didn't get a graphical shell and didn't see any boot messages | 08:47 |
| Fry-kun | startx worked but "reboot" didn't - at least not as normal user | 08:48 |
| Fry-kun | complained about /dev/init-something | 08:48 |
| Fry-kun | don't have time to play with it right now, but looks promising | 08:49 |
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| tonfa | gug | 10:37 |
| tonfa | I got a problem, probably upstart related | 10:38 |
| phsdv | what is the problem? | 10:41 |
| tonfa | I'm running -mm kernel, hit a bug http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/11/8/157 | 10:42 |
| tonfa | I think the the result of the bug for userspace is a segfault | 10:43 |
| tonfa | but it looks like some things don't get started (at least gdm and hald) | 10:43 |
| tonfa | is there a way to get some debug from upstart ? | 10:44 |
| _ion | That looks totally not upstart related. Try booting without ACPI. | 10:44 |
| phsdv | Are you using the sysvinit compatible layer? | 10:47 |
| tonfa | phsdv: I'm using the default from edgy | 10:47 |
| phsdv | that means yes. Which also means that a sysvinit runlevel is started which in its turn starts all deamons etc. | 10:48 |
| phsdv | how to debug that I do not know. I am not using edgy myself. | 10:49 |
| tonfa | ok, I'll try some things | 10:50 |
| tonfa | thanks | 10:50 |
| _ion | What made you reach the conclusion that it's probably upstart-related? | 10:52 |
| tonfa | a lot of services are not starting, logger / hald / gdm | 10:52 |
| _ion | Did you not just paste a log of kernel ACPI stuff crashing? | 10:53 |
| tonfa | _ion: there's a bug in the kernel, I reported it and I know which patch are to blame | 10:53 |
| tonfa | (see the end of the email) | 10:54 |
| tonfa | but maybe upstart could do some things better | 10:55 |
| tonfa | (if it's usptart related, i'm not sure) | 10:55 |
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| _ion | Are there errors in /var/log/boot? | 10:57 |
| tonfa | _ion: let me retry | 10:57 |
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| tonfa | _ion: http://perso.ens-lyon.fr/benoit.boissinot/upload/ | 11:11 |
| tonfa | looks like upstart doesn't launch anything | 11:12 |
| tonfa | ok it is stuck there: root 3991 0.0 0.0 1660 524 ? S 23:01 0:00 /bin/sh -e /etc/rc2.d/S10acpid start | 11:12 |
| tonfa | root 4123 0.2 0.0 1604 568 ? S 23:01 0:00 modprobe -b thermal | 11:12 |
| _ion | Not very surprising. | 11:13 |
| _ion | ke234414 < _ion> That looks totally not upstart related. Try booting without ACPI. | 11:13 |
| tonfa | _ion: I know how to boot this kernel, I just need to revert this patch ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.19-rc5/2.6.19-rc5-mm1/broken-out/ | 11:16 |
| tonfa | but lets say it's solved | 11:17 |
| tonfa | thanks for the help | 11:17 |
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| Plouj | hi | 11:41 |
| Plouj | is there an rss feed/mailing list which I can subscribe to in order to get release updates on Upstart? | 11:41 |
| _ion | There is a mailing list. | 11:42 |
| Plouj | I only see upstart-devel | 11:42 |
| Plouj | I don't want a discussion mailnig list | 11:43 |
| Plouj | mailing* | 11:43 |
| Plouj | I want a light traffic list which would only send emails about new releases | 11:43 |
| Plouj | is there something like that in bazzar/launchpad? | 11:45 |
| Plouj | bazaar* | 11:45 |
| _ion | https://launchpad.net/products/upstart shows the newest release, but there seems to be no RSS feed. | 11:52 |
| _ion | There's also the topic of this channel. ;-) | 11:53 |
| Plouj | well | 11:53 |
| Plouj | I'm not gonna check this topic ever day ffs | 11:53 |
| Plouj | the whole point of rss or email is that you get notification of everything in one place | 11:53 |
| Plouj | I just subscribed to the main branch of upstart in launchpad | 11:54 |
| Plouj | I've no idea what that means! | 11:54 |
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