[08:04] <Fry-kun> hi there
[08:04] <Keybuk> heyhey
[08:04] <Fry-kun> how is it going
[08:05] <Fry-kun> i'm looking for some help configuring upstart on Fedora
[08:05] <Fry-kun> not specific steps but general direction tips
[08:06] <Fry-kun> i've already modified the rules to point to proper locations to rc and mingetty, but rcS confuzzles me
[08:06] <Fry-kun> and of course i can't boot up without it :(
[08:08] <Keybuk> how does it confuzzle?
[08:09] <MarvinR> hello
[08:10] <Fry-kun> oh
[08:10] <MarvinR> does upstart need more developers?
[08:10] <Fry-kun> Fedora doesn't have one
[08:11] <Fry-kun> or rather.. i don't know what it does, so i don't know if fedora has an equivalent
[08:12] <Keybuk> Fry-kun: interesting, don't suppose you can paste the fedora /etc/inittab file anywhere?
[08:12] <Keybuk> MarvinR: patches are always welcome
[08:13] <AlexExtreme> Fry-kun: you can find out what you need from /etc/inittab - put the contents of it to some pastebin and i should be able to figure out what you need
[08:13] <AlexExtreme> doh, Keybuk beat me to that one...
[08:16] <Fry-kun> Keybuk: sure, just a sec
[08:18] <Fry-kun> http://pastebin.com/819899
[08:18] <Fry-kun> thanks guys :)
[08:19] <AlexExtreme> hold on
[08:21] <AlexExtreme> this should do it: http://pastebin.com/819904
[08:21] <Keybuk> Fry-kun: you can probably drop rcS then
[08:22] <Keybuk> and just modify rc-default to be start on startup
[08:22] <AlexExtreme> no, that won't work, there's a rc.sysinit line there :)
[08:23] <Keybuk> oh
[08:23] <Keybuk> well write an rc-sysinit job then, and start rc-default when that stops
[08:24] <Keybuk> ahh
[08:24] <AlexExtreme> my rcS should do it though
[08:24] <Keybuk> rc.sysinit is the same as rcS
[08:24] <AlexExtreme> correct ;)
[08:24] <Keybuk> si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS
[08:24] <Keybuk> vs.
[08:24] <Keybuk> si::sysinit:/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit
[08:25] <Keybuk> so yes, AlexExtreme is right
[08:26] <Fry-kun> ooh
[08:26] <Fry-kun> cool, i'll try that
[08:28] <AlexExtreme> bbl
[08:29] <Fry-kun> gonna try booting now...
[08:47] <Fry-kun> result: i was able to boot (and pretty damn fast, too) -- but didn't get a graphical shell and didn't see any boot messages
[08:48] <Fry-kun> startx worked but "reboot" didn't - at least not as normal user
[08:48] <Fry-kun> complained about /dev/init-something
[08:49] <Fry-kun> don't have time to play with it right now, but looks promising
[10:37] <tonfa> gug
[10:38] <tonfa> I got a problem, probably upstart related
[10:41] <phsdv> what is the problem?
[10:42] <tonfa> I'm running -mm kernel, hit a bug http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/11/8/157
[10:43] <tonfa> I think the the result of the bug for userspace is a segfault
[10:43] <tonfa> but it looks like some things don't get started (at least gdm and hald)
[10:44] <tonfa> is there a way to get some debug from upstart ?
[10:44] <_ion> That looks totally not upstart related. Try booting without ACPI.
[10:47] <phsdv> Are you using the sysvinit compatible layer?
[10:47] <tonfa> phsdv: I'm using the default from edgy
[10:48] <phsdv> that means yes. Which also means that a sysvinit runlevel is started which in its turn starts all deamons etc.
[10:49] <phsdv> how to debug that I do not know. I am not using edgy myself.
[10:50] <tonfa> ok, I'll try some things
[10:50] <tonfa> thanks
[10:52] <_ion> What made you reach the conclusion that it's probably upstart-related?
[10:52] <tonfa> a lot of services are not starting, logger / hald / gdm
[10:53] <_ion> Did you not just paste a log of kernel ACPI stuff crashing?
[10:53] <tonfa> _ion: there's a bug in the kernel, I reported it and I know which patch are to blame
[10:54] <tonfa> (see the end of the email)
[10:55] <tonfa> but maybe upstart could do some things better
[10:55] <tonfa> (if it's usptart related, i'm not sure)
[10:57] <_ion> Are there errors in /var/log/boot?
[10:57] <tonfa> _ion: let me retry
[11:11] <tonfa> _ion: http://perso.ens-lyon.fr/benoit.boissinot/upload/
[11:12] <tonfa> looks like upstart doesn't launch anything
[11:12] <tonfa> ok it is stuck there: root      3991  0.0  0.0   1660   524 ?        S    23:01   0:00 /bin/sh -e /etc/rc2.d/S10acpid start
[11:12] <tonfa> root      4123  0.2  0.0   1604   568 ?        S    23:01   0:00 modprobe -b thermal
[11:13] <_ion> Not very surprising.
[11:13] <_ion> ke234414 < _ion> That looks totally not upstart related. Try booting without ACPI.
[11:16] <tonfa> _ion: I know how to boot this kernel, I just need to revert this patch ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.19-rc5/2.6.19-rc5-mm1/broken-out/
[11:17] <tonfa> but lets say it's solved
[11:17] <tonfa> thanks for the help
[11:41] <Plouj> hi
[11:41] <Plouj> is there an rss feed/mailing list which I can subscribe to in order to get release updates on Upstart?
[11:42] <_ion> There is a mailing list.
[11:42] <Plouj> I only see upstart-devel
[11:43] <Plouj> I don't want a discussion mailnig list
[11:43] <Plouj> mailing*
[11:43] <Plouj> I want a light traffic list which would only send emails about new releases
[11:45] <Plouj> is there something like that in bazzar/launchpad?
[11:45] <Plouj> bazaar*
[11:52] <_ion> https://launchpad.net/products/upstart shows the newest release, but there seems to be no RSS feed.
[11:53] <_ion> There's also the topic of this channel. ;-)
[11:53] <Plouj> well
[11:53] <Plouj> I'm not gonna check this topic ever day ffs
[11:53] <Plouj> the whole point of rss or email is that you get notification of everything in one place
[11:54] <Plouj> I just subscribed to the main branch of upstart in launchpad
[11:54] <Plouj> I've no idea what that means!