=== Amaranth [i=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #upstart === Seveas [i=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #upstart === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D85E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #upstart === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D85E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #upstart === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D85E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #upstart === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D8811.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #upstart === juergbi [n=juerg@80-219-26-249.dclient.hispeed.ch] has joined #upstart === nibil [n=nibil@adsl-static-3-105.uklinux.net] has joined #upstart === Md [i=md@freenode/staff/md] has joined #upstart === jams [n=jams@CPE-72-131-6-174.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #upstart === mbiebl [n=michael@e180073004.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #upstart === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D8A4C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #upstart === johnnybuoy [n=johnny@unaffiliated/johnnybuoy] has joined #upstart === mbiebl [n=michael@e180073004.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #upstart === Keybuk [i=scott@conference/ubuntuconf/x-ee8aea444e6bc459] has joined #upstart === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D8A4C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #upstart === Amaranth [i=travis@conference/ubuntuconf/x-8e33861c57c42c7b] has joined #upstart === Keybuk [i=scott@conference/ubuntuconf/x-82a11a1664969fc5] has joined #upstart === Keybuk [i=scott@conference/ubuntuconf/x-0f560d815384b12c] has joined #upstart === nibil [n=nibil@adsl-static-3-105.uklinux.net] has left #upstart ["Leaving"] === Fry-kun [n=kostya@h-66-166-233-66.snvacaid.covad.net] has joined #upstart [08:04] hi there [08:04] heyhey [08:04] how is it going [08:05] i'm looking for some help configuring upstart on Fedora === Amaranth [i=travis@conference/ubuntuconf/x-9b6e02f39802542b] has joined #upstart [08:05] not specific steps but general direction tips [08:06] i've already modified the rules to point to proper locations to rc and mingetty, but rcS confuzzles me [08:06] and of course i can't boot up without it :( [08:08] how does it confuzzle? === MarvinR [n=marvin@ip54511c1e.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #upstart [08:09] hello [08:10] oh [08:10] does upstart need more developers? [08:10] Fedora doesn't have one [08:11] or rather.. i don't know what it does, so i don't know if fedora has an equivalent [08:12] Fry-kun: interesting, don't suppose you can paste the fedora /etc/inittab file anywhere? [08:12] MarvinR: patches are always welcome [08:13] Fry-kun: you can find out what you need from /etc/inittab - put the contents of it to some pastebin and i should be able to figure out what you need [08:13] doh, Keybuk beat me to that one... [08:16] Keybuk: sure, just a sec [08:18] http://pastebin.com/819899 [08:18] thanks guys :) [08:19] hold on [08:21] this should do it: http://pastebin.com/819904 [08:21] Fry-kun: you can probably drop rcS then [08:22] and just modify rc-default to be start on startup [08:22] no, that won't work, there's a rc.sysinit line there :) [08:23] oh [08:23] well write an rc-sysinit job then, and start rc-default when that stops [08:24] ahh [08:24] my rcS should do it though [08:24] rc.sysinit is the same as rcS [08:24] correct ;) [08:24] si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS [08:24] vs. [08:24] si::sysinit:/etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit [08:25] so yes, AlexExtreme is right [08:26] ooh [08:26] cool, i'll try that [08:28] bbl [08:29] gonna try booting now... === Fry-kun [n=kostya@h-66-166-233-66.snvacaid.covad.net] has joined #upstart [08:47] result: i was able to boot (and pretty damn fast, too) -- but didn't get a graphical shell and didn't see any boot messages [08:48] startx worked but "reboot" didn't - at least not as normal user [08:48] complained about /dev/init-something [08:49] don't have time to play with it right now, but looks promising === wasabi_ [i=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has joined #upstart === Md_ [i=md@freenode/staff/md] has joined #upstart === Md_ is now known as Md === Seveas [i=seveas@conference/ubuntuconf/x-e329e7dadf2dce0f] has joined #upstart === johnnybuoy [n=johnny@unaffiliated/johnnybuoy] has joined #upstart === phsdv [n=paul@83.152.232.153] has joined #upstart === tonfa [n=tonfa@footwar.residence.ens-lyon.fr] has joined #upstart [10:37] gug [10:38] I got a problem, probably upstart related [10:41] what is the problem? [10:42] I'm running -mm kernel, hit a bug http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/11/8/157 [10:43] I think the the result of the bug for userspace is a segfault [10:43] but it looks like some things don't get started (at least gdm and hald) [10:44] is there a way to get some debug from upstart ? [10:44] <_ion> That looks totally not upstart related. Try booting without ACPI. [10:47] Are you using the sysvinit compatible layer? [10:47] phsdv: I'm using the default from edgy [10:48] that means yes. Which also means that a sysvinit runlevel is started which in its turn starts all deamons etc. [10:49] how to debug that I do not know. I am not using edgy myself. [10:50] ok, I'll try some things [10:50] thanks [10:52] <_ion> What made you reach the conclusion that it's probably upstart-related? [10:52] a lot of services are not starting, logger / hald / gdm [10:53] <_ion> Did you not just paste a log of kernel ACPI stuff crashing? [10:53] _ion: there's a bug in the kernel, I reported it and I know which patch are to blame [10:54] (see the end of the email) [10:55] but maybe upstart could do some things better [10:55] (if it's usptart related, i'm not sure) === wasabi_ [i=wasabi@ubuntu/member/wasabi] has joined #upstart [10:57] <_ion> Are there errors in /var/log/boot? [10:57] _ion: let me retry === Amaranth [i=travis@conference/ubuntuconf/x-a6ad0b5c0acc4762] has joined #upstart [11:11] _ion: http://perso.ens-lyon.fr/benoit.boissinot/upload/ [11:12] looks like upstart doesn't launch anything [11:12] ok it is stuck there: root 3991 0.0 0.0 1660 524 ? S 23:01 0:00 /bin/sh -e /etc/rc2.d/S10acpid start [11:12] root 4123 0.2 0.0 1604 568 ? S 23:01 0:00 modprobe -b thermal [11:13] <_ion> Not very surprising. [11:13] <_ion> ke234414 < _ion> That looks totally not upstart related. Try booting without ACPI. [11:16] _ion: I know how to boot this kernel, I just need to revert this patch ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.19-rc5/2.6.19-rc5-mm1/broken-out/ [11:17] but lets say it's solved [11:17] thanks for the help === phsdv [n=paul@83.152.232.153] has left #upstart ["bey"] === Plouj [n=Plouj@dsl-207-112-93-197.tor.primus.ca] has joined #upstart [11:41] hi [11:41] is there an rss feed/mailing list which I can subscribe to in order to get release updates on Upstart? [11:42] <_ion> There is a mailing list. [11:42] I only see upstart-devel [11:43] I don't want a discussion mailnig list [11:43] mailing* [11:43] I want a light traffic list which would only send emails about new releases [11:45] is there something like that in bazzar/launchpad? [11:45] bazaar* [11:52] <_ion> https://launchpad.net/products/upstart shows the newest release, but there seems to be no RSS feed. [11:53] <_ion> There's also the topic of this channel. ;-) [11:53] well [11:53] I'm not gonna check this topic ever day ffs [11:53] the whole point of rss or email is that you get notification of everything in one place [11:54] I just subscribed to the main branch of upstart in launchpad [11:54] I've no idea what that means! === j_ack [n=rudi@p508D8A4C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #upstart