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toma | mo | 12:48 |
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allee | toma: ? ;) | 12:49 |
toma | allee: thats short for 'hi Hobbsee, how are you! Goodmorning!' | 12:50 |
allee | toma: please add to kdict ;) | 12:50 |
toma | ;-) | 12:50 |
Hobbsee | haha | 12:50 |
allee | ah, before I forget: hi Hobbsee, how are you! Goodmorning! | 12:50 |
Hobbsee | toma: heya :) | 12:50 |
Hobbsee | hey allee :) | 12:50 |
allee | Hobbsee: your not in MTV? | 12:51 |
Hobbsee | allee: nope, exams | 12:51 |
Hobbsee | next week, and assignments | 12:51 |
allee | Hobbsee: I'll bug our network admin tomorrow uto death until I get VOIP working. I want at least to participate once ;) | 12:52 |
Hobbsee | allee: hehe :) | 12:52 |
Hobbsee | allee: not sure how much kubuntu stuff is happening via UDS - you'd have to ask Riddell | 12:52 |
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allee | Hobbsee: there also server stuff I'm interested in. but I don't dare to ask until it works | 12:53 |
allee | yeah! knetworkmangaer works again | 12:54 |
Hobbsee | allee: yay! | 12:54 |
Hobbsee | allee: i doubt they'll bite you | 12:54 |
allee | Hobbsee: but it's a waste of their time when your network admin don't poke the right holes into the fw | 12:55 |
Hobbsee | allee: true | 12:55 |
allee | Hobbsee: after exams, you'll relax with a lots of poking with a stick here again? | 12:56 |
Hobbsee | allee: yep, and do merging, etc | 12:57 |
allee | ah, merging .... drums roll .... | 12:57 |
Hobbsee | yep | 12:57 |
Hobbsee | we should look at doing that sanely too | 12:57 |
Hobbsee | i just havent had time | 12:57 |
allee | you have already an alioth acount? | 12:57 |
Hobbsee | nope | 12:57 |
toma | allee: ;-) | 12:58 |
allee | Hobbsee: => KubuntuKDEExtras | 12:58 |
allee | toma: heh, you guessed it :) | 12:58 |
Hobbsee | allee: yeah i saw it in my email, thanks :) | 12:58 |
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toma | OMG, ssstttt, you can not say that | 12:58 |
Hobbsee | well, debian specifically | 12:59 |
allee | Hobbsee: me, too. But I commit to alioth and let the sync magic do the stuff instead of merging | 12:59 |
Hobbsee | true | 12:59 |
allee | ^^ sure not possible with all pkgs | 12:59 |
Hobbsee | true | 12:59 |
fdoving | kubuntu needs some kind of VCS for packages. each packager having his $HOME/packages/ just isn't good enought. imho. | 01:00 |
fdoving | nite. | 01:00 |
allee | fdoving: heh, famous last word (for today) | 01:00 |
allee | nite fdoving | 01:00 |
fdoving | everyone agrees so it's not worth a discussion, nite :) | 01:01 |
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Hobbsee | fdoving: we can discuss anyway | 01:01 |
Hobbsee | :P | 01:01 |
allee | yeap, looks like a policy for backports soon exists. So after some testing stuff can move from $home/package to backports | 01:03 |
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allee | as long as 10 other MOTUs agree | 01:03 |
Riddell | Hobbsee: how much kubuntu stuff is happening at UDS?!?!? loads and loads and LOADS! | 01:03 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: yes, but via VOIP???? | 01:03 |
Riddell | it's not really scheduled | 01:04 |
Hobbsee | i've no question on whether stuff is happening or not | 01:04 |
Hobbsee | didnt think so :P | 01:04 |
Riddell | the schedule worked well for about two days but it's broken down now | 01:04 |
Hobbsee | yeah, suspected as much - the team is much smaller | 01:04 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: i had something to tell you, from #kde-devel. now i just have to remember what it was | 01:04 |
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Hobbsee | hey Jucato | 01:06 |
Jucato | moin Hobbsee! :) | 01:06 |
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jeroenvrp | hi folks | 01:13 |
jeroenvrp | me gain | 01:13 |
jeroenvrp | I have found a reproducablem kde-bug; should I submit it to KDE or launchpad | 01:13 |
jeroenvrp | it's about the non-working screensaver for some in edgy | 01:13 |
Hobbsee | both? | 01:14 |
Hobbsee | you can link hte LP one to the one upstream | 01:14 |
jeroenvrp | ok | 01:14 |
jeroenvrp | np | 01:14 |
jeroenvrp | just a copt+paste | 01:14 |
jeroenvrp | 1 moment | 01:14 |
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jeroenvrp | #70991 | 01:23 |
jeroenvrp | bug 70991 | 01:23 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 70991 in kdeartwork "Disabling energy saving of monitor; changes the normal screensaver to a e.g. blank screen or a screen with an X" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/70991 | 01:23 |
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allee | jeroenvrp: oh, and I wondered by I suddenly had this X screensaver. Thought it was Tonio_ fault' ;) | 01:32 |
Tonio_ | oh la la | 01:32 |
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Tonio_ | allee: that's X default config, nothing yo do with kde :) | 01:33 |
jeroenvrp | allee: I don't know whos fault it is, but I glad I've found this bug :-) | 01:33 |
Tonio_ | and if I had to do it I would have choosen something better :) | 01:33 |
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jeroenvrp | yes I proberly listed it on the wrong place, but I really didn't know where to list it | 01:34 |
Tonio_ | allee: bah that's fine :) | 01:34 |
allee | jeroenvrp: the behaviour, makes not sense. If engery saving is on, then not screensaver should be used because the backlight will be switched of and any screensaver can't be seen. | 01:36 |
jeroenvrp | allee: well if energy saver is on; it's normal that first a scrresaver comes up | 01:37 |
allee | afaiu, energy saving should use the dpms settings | 01:37 |
jeroenvrp | but if energy saver is off it makes no sense to eat the screensaver | 01:38 |
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allee | jeroenvrp: right, screensaver can be seen if dpms setting is bigger than idle time until screensaver appears | 01:39 |
allee | jeroenvrp: the screensaver and dpms section of the output of xset q, maybe helpful to understand what's wrong | 01:42 |
jeroenvrp | allee: Do you need an output of something? | 01:43 |
allee | jeroenvrp: I assume this would make it easier. Have a look at xset q output. There's info on Screensaver and DPMS. Maybe one can see there what goes wrong | 01:45 |
jeroenvrp | allee: ok - when the enegry saving is off, I presume? | 01:46 |
jeroenvrp | allee: ok, I did it with both settings (only 2 lines diff); I will paste it in the bug | 01:49 |
allee | k | 01:50 |
jeroenvrp | allee: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdeartwork/+bug/70991 | 01:52 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 70991 in kdeartwork "Disabling energy saving of monitor; changes the normal screensaver to a e.g. blank screen or a screen with an X" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 01:52 |
allee | k thx | 01:52 |
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jeroenvrp | good luck with it | 01:53 |
jeroenvrp | I'm going to do other things | 01:53 |
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Hobbsee | Jucato: ping? | 02:11 |
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imbrandon | heya Hobbsee | 02:26 |
Hobbsee | hey imbrandon! | 02:27 |
_nixternal | hiya everyone! | 02:28 |
Hobbsee | hey _nixternal | 02:30 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: what magic did you figure out today? | 02:31 |
seele | 42 | 02:31 |
Hobbsee | :P | 02:38 |
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Riddell | imbrandon: are you going to write koffice-by-default or should we get someone else to do it? | 03:21 |
Riddell | well, less write more delete all the comments and turn some bullet points into prose | 03:22 |
_nixternal | oy Riddell, are you enjoying yourself this week? | 03:22 |
Riddell | nixternal: when I'm not feeling too stressed with the sheer amount of stuff to be done over the next 6 months :) | 03:23 |
_nixternal | ya, i hear ya, but just think, i will be here hounding you as well for the next 6 months, but i call that working ;) | 03:23 |
Hobbsee | Riddell gets stressed? | 03:24 |
_nixternal | if you have some easy things to get done, and im around, i can lend a hand to help you out, that goes for all you goofy KDE devs ;) | 03:24 |
_nixternal | except Hobbsee ;) | 03:24 |
Hobbsee | hrmmm? | 03:24 |
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sebas | nixternal: Port ubiquity to Qt4 | 03:24 |
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Hobbsee | too slow | 03:25 |
_nixternal | damn, trademarked it as well | 03:25 |
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_nixternal | CC-by-SA 2.5? | 03:25 |
sebas | Or better yet, package PyQt4.1 (the qt 4.2 version) | 03:25 |
_nixternal | sebas: i will get right on that | 03:25 |
_nixternal | fancy waiting until next year? | 03:25 |
sebas | Ah, cool! | 03:25 |
_nixternal | ;) | 03:25 |
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sebas | Uhm, it's just a package :> | 03:26 |
sebas | Gotta run out, :** | 03:26 |
_nixternal | hehe | 03:26 |
_nixternal | later | 03:26 |
ryanakca | _nixternal: "The KDEPIM package should depend on libgpgme >= 0.4.7. If it does not, complain to the packager." | 03:31 |
ryanakca | ryan@rkavanagh:~$ apt-cache show kdepim | grep libgpgme outputs nothing | 03:31 |
_nixternal | nice | 03:31 |
ryanakca | who's the packager? :D | 03:32 |
_nixternal | not me | 03:32 |
ryanakca | lol | 03:32 |
Hobbsee | not me | 03:32 |
_nixternal | heh | 03:32 |
ryanakca | lol | 03:33 |
_nixternal | there he went | 03:33 |
_nixternal | hahaha | 03:33 |
ryanakca | Lure.... | 03:33 |
_nixternal | no, but it would be funny if he was | 03:33 |
ryanakca | chicken! | 03:33 |
ryanakca | lol | 03:33 |
_nixternal | hahahaha | 03:33 |
_nixternal | apt-get src kdepim | 03:33 |
ryanakca | Maintainer: Ubuntu Core Developers <ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com> | 03:33 |
_nixternal | vi /kdepim/debian/control | 03:33 |
_nixternal | add the libgpgme stuff in the depends | 03:34 |
ryanakca | that happens to be very helpfull | 03:34 |
_nixternal | then cd .. | 03:34 |
ryanakca | yes, I know :D | 03:34 |
_nixternal | debuild -S ;) | 03:34 |
ryanakca | and then pbuilder it :D | 03:34 |
_nixternal | hahahaha | 03:34 |
ryanakca | should I file a bug as well? | 03:34 |
_nixternal | i would | 03:34 |
_nixternal | if it depends on that, but isn't setup to do so, then it is a bug | 03:34 |
ryanakca | because that automagicly kills my GPG encryption in KMail... from what I see based on the document | 03:34 |
_nixternal | really | 03:35 |
Hobbsee | file a bug for it, yeah | 03:35 |
ryanakca | I can encrypt and sign, but I can,t decrypt... | 03:35 |
Hobbsee | !info libgpgme | 03:35 |
ubotu | Package libgpgme does not exist in any distro I know | 03:35 |
Hobbsee | !info libgpgme edgy | 03:35 |
ubotu | Package libgpgme does not exist in edgy | 03:35 |
_nixternal | my gpg encryption works fine, and i can even receive encrypted emails and pinentry will ask for my password and decrypt it right there in kmail | 03:35 |
ryanakca | !info libgpgme11 | 03:35 |
ubotu | libgpgme11: GPGME - GnuPG Made Easy. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.2-2 (edgy), package size 162 kB, installed size 356 kB | 03:35 |
Hobbsee | libgpgme11-dev as a build dep, i expect | 03:36 |
ryanakca | !info libgpgme6 | 03:36 |
ubotu | libgpgme6: GPGME - GnuPG Made Easy. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.16-2 (edgy), package size 66 kB, installed size 172 kB | 03:36 |
_nixternal | optional is a good clue | 03:36 |
ryanakca | odd... just a sec, I'll get you the errors... | 03:36 |
ryanakca | Today 16:51:58 | 03:37 |
ryanakca | Encrypted message (decryption not possible) | 03:37 |
ryanakca | Reason: Crypto plug-in "openpgp" could not decrypt the data. | 03:37 |
ryanakca | Error: Bad passphrase | 03:37 |
ryanakca | Encrypted data not shown. | 03:37 |
ryanakca | End of encrypted message | 03:37 |
ryanakca | do I pastebin the apt-cache show kdepim output? | 03:38 |
ryanakca | I mean add it to the bug report? | 03:38 |
ryanakca | _nixternal, Hobbsee: done, bug 71012 | 03:47 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 71012 in kdepim "KDE-PIM isn't built with "libgpgme >= 0.4.7" as a dependency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71012 | 03:47 |
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Hobbsee | ryanakca: can you subscribe me to that bug please? | 03:48 |
Hobbsee | _nixternal: neither. i dont run those apps | 03:48 |
_nixternal | i love kmail, can't live w/o it | 03:49 |
_nixternal | i could never go back to mutt or pine after kmail | 03:49 |
_nixternal | it is hard for me to use irssi after konversation now...the gui has spoiled me baddly | 03:49 |
ryanakca | done | 03:49 |
ryanakca | lol, same | 03:49 |
Hobbsee | :) | 03:49 |
Hobbsee | konversation is not part of kdepim! | 03:50 |
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_nixternal | actually Hobbsee, konversation ties in nicely with kdepim now ;) | 03:50 |
Hobbsee | it probably does. how so/ | 03:50 |
_nixternal | kmail hasn't crashed on me at all with edgy | 03:50 |
_nixternal | i can link you here in konversation to your info in my kaddressbook | 03:51 |
_nixternal | so i can right click your name in konvo, and send you a file via email if need be, or send an email right from konvo | 03:51 |
_nixternal | or, put your hackergotchi in kaddressbook, and it shows up next to your name in konversation ;) | 03:52 |
_nixternal | but that gets annoying after a while | 03:52 |
Hobbsee | ah right | 03:52 |
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Jucato | night Riddell :) | 08:14 |
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Riddell | _Sime: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFeistySystemSettings | 08:24 |
_Sime | hi | 08:24 |
Riddell | morning :) | 08:24 |
Riddell | _Sime: should we start a System Settings for KDE 4 campaign? | 08:24 |
_Sime | Riddell: who do we lobby? :) | 08:25 |
Jucato | ooh System Settings... | 08:25 |
_Sime | Riddell: the system settings / kcontrol / modules discussion needs to open. | 08:25 |
Riddell | _Sime: kde-core-devel, tech working group | 08:25 |
_Sime | Riddell: It will be interesting for guidance. I've also been slowly working on a kind of annoucement / "Statement of intention" for PyKDE. | 08:26 |
_Sime | Riddell: basically PyKDE will go into KDE SVN proper. | 08:26 |
seaLne | Riddell: still up? | 08:29 |
Riddell | seaLne: briefly | 08:30 |
imbrandon | Riddell: yea i'm doing the koffice stuff now | 08:43 |
imbrandon | arg lag | 08:43 |
Riddell | _Sime: that's been agreed with jim? | 08:43 |
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ryanakca | Hobbsee: hey | 01:03 |
Hobbsee | hey ryanakca :) | 01:03 |
ryanakca | Hobbsee: should I set bug 71012 to confirmed? since it's a simple-ish bug... and anybody can confirm it by looking at apt-cache show kdepim? | 01:04 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 71012 in kdepim "KDE-PIM isn't built with "libgpgme >= 0.4.7" as a dependency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71012 | 01:04 |
Hobbsee | ryanakca: yeah, if you want. | 01:04 |
Hobbsee | ryanakca: who tends to upload kdepim? | 01:05 |
ryanakca | dunno... I'm guessing imbrandon might have something to do with it... same with riddell... | 01:05 |
ryanakca | no clue about anybody else | 01:05 |
Hobbsee | oh, tonio does | 01:05 |
Hobbsee | and imbrandon doesnt touch kdepim :P | 01:06 |
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Hobbsee | ryanakca: i'm not sure if debian's and ours will be merged in | 01:06 |
Hobbsee | you dont need to d othat | 01:06 |
ryanakca | kk | 01:06 |
Hobbsee | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdepim for one thing | 01:06 |
ryanakca | lol | 01:06 |
Hobbsee | also, changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/kdepim/ should also tell you | 01:06 |
ryanakca | we have a changelogs.ubuntu.com? heh... | 01:07 |
Hobbsee | yep | 01:08 |
Hobbsee | we also have a patches.ubuntu.com and a merges.ubuntu.com | 01:08 |
ryanakca | The requested URL /changelogs/pool/main/kdepim/ was not found on this server. | 01:08 |
ryanakca | merges... never figured out how to do those | 01:08 |
Hobbsee | go back to changelogs.ubuntu.com | 01:08 |
Hobbsee | i guessed the address | 01:08 |
ryanakca | http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/k/kdepim/ | 01:09 |
Hobbsee | ah, that's right | 01:09 |
Hobbsee | i *knew* i;d miss something! | 01:09 |
ryanakca | lol | 01:09 |
ryanakca | Riddel, Tonio, Daniel Holbach (what's his irc nick again?), schepler from debian, and raphink all the way back in May | 01:10 |
Hobbsee | dholbach | 01:11 |
Hobbsee | yep | 01:11 |
Hobbsee | oh well, i might poke that in a few days | 01:11 |
Hobbsee | else just upload it anyway | 01:11 |
Hobbsee | well, poke someone to upload it | 01:11 |
Hobbsee | seeing as i dont plan on going for core | 01:11 |
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ryanakca | kk | 01:12 |
ryanakca | should be easy to fix, unless they did "The packager has shipped a patched version of KMail that does not require GpgME to build. Needless to say that in this case, this howto won't be of any use for you, since such a stripped-down KMail won't support cryptography anyway." | 01:13 |
Hobbsee | ryanakca: of course. i'd prefer to fix a few more things in one upload, maybe? | 01:13 |
Hobbsee | that may be SRU-able, too, i guess | 01:13 |
ryanakca | yeah | 01:14 |
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ryanakca | bbl, school | 01:19 |
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Hobbsee | imbrandon: ping? | 01:41 |
Hobbsee | oh wrong time of day, darn | 01:41 |
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Jucato | Hobbsee: 6:42am CST | 01:41 |
Hobbsee | Jucato: yeah :( | 01:41 |
Mez | Jucato, 4:42 am in MTV | 01:42 |
Jucato | well, normal people would be awake by that time :P | 01:42 |
Jucato | Mez: hehe good morning to you :) | 01:42 |
Mez | Jucato: afternnon | 01:42 |
Mez | and I best be going to work as soon as all this has transferred to my MP3 player | 01:43 |
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Jucato | grrr... | 02:58 |
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Jucato | told you | 02:59 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 02:59 |
Hawkwind | Jucato: Hah | 02:59 |
abattoir | haha, told you too ;) | 02:59 |
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abattoir | omg | 02:59 |
Tm_T | Hrrrr. | 02:59 |
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Hawkwind | Jucato: Hobbsee pinged you last night, have you ponged her back :P | 02:59 |
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Hawkwind | Dohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh | 02:59 |
Jucato | Hobbsee: you ping'ed me earlier? sorry I wasn't here... (or I was, but my internet connection must have been whacked) | 02:59 |
abattoir | hi Tm_T :) | 02:59 |
Tm_T | Hi kids. | 02:59 |
Hobbsee | Jucato: ahh, right. forum ambassador stuff, was thinking in terms of kubuntu forums. you're a little late now though | 03:00 |
Hawkwind | LOL @ (tm) | 03:00 |
Jucato | I'm definitely late... | 03:00 |
Hobbsee | yep :P | 03:00 |
jsgotangco | forum abassador? | 03:00 |
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Jucato | I barely settled in with Edgy, so I'm pretty disoriented with all the Feisty planning going on... | 03:00 |
Hobbsee | ahh | 03:00 |
Hobbsee | jsgotangco: connectoin between the forums and the devs | 03:00 |
Hawkwind | Jucato: Time to get yourself situated. You're needed | 03:01 |
Jucato | Hawkwind: if you didn't get that last part, she said that I'm late already :P | 03:01 |
jsgotangco | Hobbsee: oh its like having a consular office or something lol | 03:01 |
jsgotangco | jeezz | 03:01 |
Hobbsee | lol | 03:01 |
Hobbsee | how so? | 03:01 |
jsgotangco | i dunno how am i different from a forum poster | 03:02 |
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Hobbsee | jsgotangco: you know more dev stuff than they do :P | 03:02 |
Hobbsee | jsgotangco: but yes, the idea that the devs dont already know what the users want is rather....crazy | 03:03 |
Jucato | Hobbsee: but the devs not knowing what the users are experiencing isn't as crazy as it sounds | 03:04 |
Hobbsee | Jucato: why so? | 03:04 |
jsgotangco | why so? | 03:04 |
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jsgotangco | we dont live in ivory towers | 03:04 |
|joe| | hello | 03:05 |
Hobbsee | Jucato: and there's a difference between what they want, and what they're experiencing | 03:05 |
Jucato | the changes for System Settings for one | 03:05 |
Hobbsee | hey |joe| | 03:05 |
|joe| | Hobbsee: i was looking for you yesterday but i think i'm not anymore :), because of knights | 03:05 |
Hobbsee | |joe|: ooh, what about it? | 03:05 |
|joe| | Hobbsee: crashes in edgy, but mez already took care of it | 03:06 |
Hobbsee | |joe|: ahhh | 03:06 |
Hobbsee | fair enough | 03:06 |
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Hobbsee | hey sredna! | 03:08 |
|joe| | Riddell: ? | 03:09 |
seele | too early, its only 0600 in california | 03:09 |
|joe| | aaah | 03:10 |
Jucato | wow! seele is in here?! | 03:10 |
abattoir | mhb: ping | 03:10 |
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el | heya Jucato :) | 03:10 |
seele | haha | 03:11 |
Jucato | hi el! :) | 03:11 |
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Hobbsee | must be someone famous and cool, though :) | 03:11 |
seele | Hobbsee: i was at UDS-MtV | 03:11 |
el | heh :) | 03:11 |
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seele | Hobbsee: im a KDE chica | 03:11 |
Hobbsee | ah :) | 03:11 |
Jucato | Celeste Paul. KDE HIG | 03:11 |
Hobbsee | ahhhhh.... | 03:11 |
Jucato | her interview in the Dot caused quite a ruckus :P | 03:11 |
Jucato | er.. in people.kde.nl actually | 03:12 |
Hobbsee | so *you're* the famous Celeste too, that i hear discussed | 03:12 |
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seele | lol | 03:12 |
jsgotangco | lol | 03:12 |
seele | im famous? not rich tho, hehe | 03:12 |
jsgotangco | glamorous would be fab as well | 03:12 |
Hobbsee | Jucato: why so? | 03:12 |
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Jucato | :) | 03:13 |
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Jucato | Hobbsee: http://dot.kde.org/1156972507/ | 03:15 |
Hobbsee | thanks. i'm lazy | 03:15 |
Jucato | to make a long story short: most of the discussion revolved around comments about her looks :) | 03:15 |
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Hawkwind | Your a Gnome user ? | 03:17 |
abattoir | jsgotangco: good for you ;) | 03:17 |
Hobbsee | oh yeah, i did see this.... | 03:17 |
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Hawkwind | s/Your/You're | 03:17 |
seele | bah, i didnt care ;) | 03:17 |
Hobbsee | Jucato: so i noticed. seems that us women need lots of duct tape, to put over men's eyes | 03:17 |
Hobbsee | seele: it's kind of a compliment, anyway :) | 03:17 |
Jucato | Hobbsee: ehehe... I guess some guys just couldn't help it. seele *is* pretty :) | 03:18 |
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seele | its kind of silly to not expect comments -- good or bad -- when a picture is posted | 03:18 |
jsgotangco | Hawkwind: was KDE user before, contributed years and years ago, moved to oz project, moved to gnome did some stuff, rested a bit, been using kde for quite a while and switched | 03:18 |
jsgotangco | back | 03:18 |
Hobbsee | seele: that is true. which is why i dont show pictures, of course :P | 03:18 |
jsgotangco | Hobbsee: lol | 03:18 |
jsgotangco | for all its worth, someone saw my pic before in a UDS and made me a hackergotchi | 03:19 |
jsgotangco | i didnt even ask | 03:19 |
Hobbsee | ah yes, i saw that interview | 03:20 |
Hobbsee | seele: a co-lover of chocolate! yay! | 03:20 |
seele | Hobbsee: chocolate > * | 03:21 |
Hobbsee | :) | 03:21 |
Hobbsee | seele: more chocolate > some chocolate :P | 03:21 |
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Jucato | Hobbsee: you should listen to her Konqcast interview... the part that aseigo didn't edit out :P | 03:21 |
Hobbsee | oh? | 03:22 |
jsgotangco | does aaron hang out here??? | 03:22 |
Jucato | no | 03:22 |
Jucato | he's in #kubuntu though | 03:22 |
jsgotangco | weird | 03:22 |
jsgotangco | fun guy to be with though | 03:22 |
seele | Jucato: ;-P | 03:23 |
|joe| | Hobbsee: is there any women who does not like chocolate? :) | 03:25 |
Hobbsee | |joe|: sure. my friend isnt a fan of it | 03:25 |
seele | i knew one who was allergic to it | 03:25 |
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Hobbsee | mmm...chocolate... | 03:26 |
Hawkwind | Though I'm not a woman, chocolate is disgusting. White chocolate is good but other than that, ya'll can have that nasty stuff :P | 03:26 |
Hobbsee | who brought that up? it's got 1am! | 03:26 |
Hobbsee | Hawkwind: excellent! hand it over! | 03:26 |
|joe| | Hobbsee: kind of exception confirming the rule :) | 03:26 |
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Hobbsee | thankyou :) | 03:27 |
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seele | that's it? | 03:27 |
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|joe| | Hobbsee: anyway month ago i was in choc-musem, my friend was just mad about it, so we had to go to cologne | 03:27 |
seele | i could easily take out the stock in all of north amarica and be working towards the south | 03:27 |
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Hobbsee | hehe | 03:27 |
Jucato | Hobbsee: I certainly have been re-cured :) | 03:27 |
Hobbsee | seele: just leave me aust and europe, right? | 03:28 |
Hobbsee | Jucato: heh | 03:28 |
seele | Hobbsee: maybe, if you promise to send me presents from there :) | 03:28 |
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Hobbsee | seele: hehe. now the postage from that would be nasty | 03:28 |
Tm_T | Hmmh, anyone using bluetooth? How do you manage to pair devices? | 03:28 |
Hobbsee | i have one bluetooth device | 03:29 |
abattoir | Tm_T: hmmm deja vu | 03:29 |
Hawkwind | Jucato: Take some of Hobbsee's and seele's :) | 03:29 |
Tm_T | Me and two other guys am wondering how it happens, just can't figure out why it doesn't work. | 03:29 |
Hobbsee | hence, pairing doesnt exist | 03:29 |
Tm_T | :) | 03:29 |
Jucato | ugh! sudden lag! | 03:29 |
Tm_T | abattoir: ? | 03:30 |
Tm_T | abattoir: Yu, I have been asking this earlier too. :) | 03:30 |
abattoir | Tm_T: haven't we had this discussion before? pre-edgy? ;) | 03:30 |
Tm_T | Yes. | 03:30 |
|joe| | Tm_T: how it happens or how you do it in linux? | 03:30 |
abattoir | Tm_T: i do it from my phone | 03:30 |
abattoir | Tm_T: i really don't understand the use for the | 03:30 |
abattoir | 'Paired Devices' tool/widget or whatever it's called | 03:31 |
Tm_T | hcitool cc && hcitool auth -> HCI authentication request failed: Input/output error | 03:31 |
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Hawkwind | Hobbsee: Just the imprints aren't nice when you wake up :P | 03:31 |
Jucato | night Hobbsee! :) | 03:31 |
Hobbsee | iv'e done that | 03:32 |
Hobbsee | had a nice imprint from my watch | 03:32 |
Hawkwind | And the drool can ruin a keyboard too | 03:32 |
Hawkwind | Hah | 03:32 |
abattoir | Hawkwind: not if it's a laptop keyboard ;) | 03:32 |
Hobbsee | seeing as i fell asleep on my arm in a library. well, in many libraries | 03:32 |
Tm_T | Hobbsee: Sleep well. :) | 03:32 |
Hobbsee | and this is a laptop | 03:32 |
Hawkwind | abattoir: Heh, I've never fallen asleep on my laptop | 03:32 |
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Hobbsee | that being said, some of tomorrow's sessions look interesting | 03:34 |
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moi1392 | hello, does liblazy is to be packaged for ubuntu ? | 03:42 |
moi1392 | it is a dependency, since some times, for kickoff, I just update my kickoff source today and they not compile anymore :( | 03:42 |
moi1392 | *link | 03:43 |
Tm_T | moi1392: Hmm, wait, you have to workaround it, that's "only in suse" thing. | 03:43 |
moi1392 | Tm_T liblazy only in suse ? it was announced in XDG mailing list 2 moth ago :/ | 03:44 |
Jucato | kickoff in SUSE | 03:44 |
Tm_T | moi1392: Dunno, that's what I heard, anyway, you don't need it. | 03:44 |
moi1392 | yes, but it work on kubuntu if you build it ;) | 03:44 |
Tm_T | Like I did. ;) | 03:45 |
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moi1392 | too bad it's that much included in kdebase ad cannot be extracted easyly :( | 03:45 |
Tm_T | moi1392: I have ugly way to fix compilation problem, I'll paste it all to somewhere, so hold on. :) | 03:45 |
Tm_T | moi1392: Btw all you have to compile&&install is kdebase/kicker and kdebase/kcontrol/kicker | 03:46 |
moi1392 | Tm_T : me too, I hack Makefiles directly :p but here i'm not sure, i try to remove the dependency but if it is used, it will not compile much better | 03:46 |
Tm_T | moi1392: Nah, you can safely just skip it. | 03:47 |
Tm_T | Makefile hack is fine. | 03:47 |
moi1392 | ok, tanks :) | 03:47 |
moi1392 | no, here I compile all kdebase above kubuntu kdelibs, juste disable beagle because it wont compile well for me | 03:48 |
Tm_T | :) | 03:50 |
moi1392 | -llazy removed, start rebuild and all looks fine :) tanks:) | 03:51 |
moi1392 | are hey plan to include kickoff in fiesty ? | 03:51 |
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seele | Riddell: ping | 03:57 |
bddebian | Howdy folks | 04:01 |
Jucato | hi bddebian! | 04:01 |
allee | Tm_T: is BT pairing now working for you? | 04:02 |
jsgotangco | is that like a script or something where you greet every channel with a different greeting | 04:02 |
jsgotangco | bddebian: ^^ | 04:03 |
bddebian | Heya Jucato, jsgotangco | 04:03 |
jsgotangco | :D | 04:03 |
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Tm_T | allee: Nope, auth fails. | 04:05 |
allee | Tm_T: good to know. I need BT pairing before I can move to edgy. | 04:06 |
allee | Tm_T: is this KDE or gnome specific or happens with edgy in general? | 04:07 |
allee | Tm_T: if it's KDE specific I'm try to reimplement my old automatic pairing stuff | 04:07 |
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Riddell | hi seele | 04:45 |
fdoving | Riddell: is it possible to use launchpad to handle packages (debian dirs) with bzr? | 04:51 |
fdoving | without the upstream source. | 04:51 |
fdoving | like svn.debian.org | 04:52 |
Riddell | fdoving: it's entirely encuraged | 04:54 |
Riddell | encouraged | 04:54 |
Riddell | see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BzrMaintainedPackages | 04:54 |
Riddell | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BzrMaintainerHowto | 04:54 |
fdoving | ah thanks! | 04:55 |
fdoving | what team should let's say, kio-apt be under? kubuntu-team or kubuntu-members? | 04:56 |
Tm_T | allee: Seems to be bluez bug. | 05:00 |
Tm_T | allee: I'm now starting to test one thing that should workaround that. | 05:00 |
allee | Tm_T: thx | 05:00 |
seele | weird, the channel didnt highlight when my name was said | 05:01 |
seele | Riddell: i talked to el about the .hidden setting in / and she agrees with me | 05:01 |
Tm_T | seele: Hilight! | 05:01 |
Tm_T | ;) | 05:01 |
seele | Riddell: she was a bit confused how it even came to be.. she noticed it and thought there was something wrong with her partition | 05:02 |
seele | Tm_T: hehe | 05:02 |
seele | Riddell: also.. she has some comments about system settings too. i dunno when you want to talk about that.. | 05:02 |
allee | Riddell: I hopefully have now enough holes in our campus firefall for voip. You know about kubuntu meetings today with voip access? | 05:04 |
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Tm_T | allee: Bah, I can't even find documentation of configuration options in hcid.conf | 05:19 |
Tm_T | Hmm, let's see if manpage has any uptodate info. | 05:20 |
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Riddell | seele: happy to talk now or anytime | 05:41 |
Kuhrscher | Hi, is one of the devs of Guidance in here? | 05:50 |
Riddell | Kuhrscher: _Sime and sebas_ | 05:50 |
Riddell | and for power manager me and lure | 05:50 |
Kuhrscher | Thank you. | 05:51 |
Kuhrscher | _Sime: Do you have one minute? | 05:51 |
Tm_T | I think _ in beginning og his nick is indicating his not there atm, or so I think. | 05:52 |
Tm_T | Or maybe I'm not thinking at all. -> | 05:52 |
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Kuhrscher | Hmm, you could be right ;-) | 05:56 |
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Kuhrscher | Riddell: I saw that you created a *pot file of Guidance manually | 06:17 |
Riddell | Kuhrscher: yes, probably not very sensibly | 06:18 |
Riddell | I think I used gettext | 06:18 |
Riddell | sime has some documentation on how to do it on the pykdeextensions website docs which might be better to follow | 06:18 |
Kuhrscher | Is scripty generally anuble to handle guidance? | 06:18 |
Kuhrscher | unable | 06:19 |
Riddell | Kuhrscher: seems to be the case | 06:21 |
Riddell | Kuhrscher: if you look at the Makefile.am I put in a rule for scripty but it got taken out by the scripty dude | 06:21 |
Riddell | or renamed so scripty can't find it | 06:21 |
Kuhrscher | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/playground/base/guidance/Makefile.am?rev=543747&view=markup | 06:22 |
Kuhrscher | This one? | 06:22 |
Riddell | yes | 06:23 |
Kuhrscher | A guy of our team told me that perhaps the follow line is just wrong... | 06:24 |
Kuhrscher | -xgettext -ki18n -LPython $$LIST -o po/guidance.pot; | 06:24 |
Kuhrscher | +xgettext -ki18n -LPython $LIST -o po/guidance.pot; | 06:24 |
Riddell | Kuhrscher: which team is that? | 06:28 |
Kuhrscher | german translation team (kde upstream) | 06:29 |
seele | Riddell: ping | 06:32 |
seele | oh, you got back to me | 06:32 |
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Riddell | seele: pong | 06:33 |
Riddell | Kuhrscher: we could also ask for scripty to include the native pykder method http://www.simonzone.com/software/pykdeextensions/en/i18n.html | 06:33 |
serzholino | i've just upgraded to edgy :) looks amazing, thank you, guys!!! | 06:36 |
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Kuhrscher | Riddell: That would be a solution. Who could do this? | 06:37 |
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Riddell | Kuhrscher: I don't know if scripty is maintained, but it would need pykdeextensions being installed on whichever machine scripty is run on | 06:38 |
Riddell | Kuhrscher: asking on kde-doc-i18n list would be best | 06:38 |
Riddell | or whatever that mailing list is called | 06:39 |
Kuhrscher | kde-i18n-doc | 06:39 |
Riddell | but getting non-c++ support in scripty is something that will have to happen at some point | 06:39 |
Riddell | seele: meet _Sime | 06:40 |
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Kuhrscher | Riddell: That's true... | 06:41 |
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seele | _Sime: ping :) | 06:42 |
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Kuhrscher | Riddell: Probably it would be the best if _Sime asks for this? | 06:45 |
Riddell | Lure: tell kwwii to wheesht | 06:46 |
Riddell | he's louder than the speaker out here | 06:46 |
\sh | moin | 06:47 |
\sh | hows the conf? | 06:47 |
Riddell | \sh: busy busy busy! | 06:49 |
\sh | oh...just the same as here :) | 06:49 |
\sh | Riddell: greetings to kwwii and ogra, dholbach, mvogt etc. | 06:58 |
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serzholino | in edgy volume up/down and mute on my multimedia keyboard are recognized, onscreen messages are displayed, but actually no volume changes performs | 07:09 |
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marseillai | serzholino: take a look on kmix if moving master volume change anything | 07:10 |
marseillai | if not it's because your volume is not on this channel i've the same problem mine is on pcm channel and i don't know how to change it | 07:10 |
serzholino | no :( | 07:11 |
marseillai | so you have the same problem than me | 07:11 |
serzholino | ok, can i at least disable it at all | 07:12 |
serzholino | seems like it grabs key pesses before any other app, so i cannot configure this buttons on application level | 07:13 |
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Lure | imbrandon: konversatrion tabs comments: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2006/10/winter-comes-in-earnest.html | 07:24 |
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serzholino | no one knows how to disable global mutimedia keys recognition? | 07:33 |
jdong | serzholino: you need to remove kmilo | 07:36 |
jdong | I don't remember off the top of my head how to go about it | 07:37 |
marseillai | jdong: and if we want to modify action of bouton? is it possible? | 07:37 |
jdong | marseillai: you have to go to the source code of kmilo | 07:37 |
marseillai | beurk | 07:37 |
jdong | it's all hardcoded stuff that calls kmix via dcop | 07:37 |
jdong | and kmix adamantly only changes what it percieves as the master channel | 07:38 |
jdong | in the case of my laptop (and apparently yours too), kmix is wrong | 07:38 |
jdong | and setting a new master in kmix doesn't change how it responds to dcop calls | 07:38 |
jdong | I have a bug filed about it | 07:38 |
jdong | bug 58790 | 07:38 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 58790 in kdemultimedia "kmix: dcop calls to adjust volume should affect user-set master channel" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/58790 | 07:38 |
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nixternal | whats the difference between Kubuntu Members and Kubuntu Team? are they not both teams of contributors, or is there an extra hierarchy? | 07:44 |
nixternal | just clicked a link from wikipedia for "community contributors" | 07:44 |
Riddell | nixternal: kubuntu-team is old, we should get rid of it | 07:45 |
nixternal | ahhh | 07:45 |
serzholino | yes, after removing kmilo kdetv is able to react to vol up/down/mute | 07:45 |
Riddell | kubuntu-members means you're an official ubuntu member | 07:45 |
serzholino | of cource atfer configuring this in it | 07:45 |
nixternal | man, there are a lot of wiki contribs for kubuntu | 07:45 |
Riddell | nixternal: tidy tidy! | 07:45 |
nixternal | im the only one on that list that i have heard of | 07:46 |
nixternal | haha | 07:46 |
nixternal | oh, Burgundavia had to put his "Ubuntu, not Ubuntu Linux" speal | 07:46 |
nixternal | don't we go by "Kubuntu GNU/LInux"? | 07:46 |
jdong | do we? | 07:47 |
jdong | I though twe were kubuntu | 07:47 |
nixternal | according to About and everything it does | 07:47 |
jdong | lol | 07:47 |
nixternal | it used to be on the front page of k.org | 07:47 |
nixternal | "Kubuntu is the GNU/Linux distribution for everyone" | 07:48 |
nixternal | it hasn't changed | 07:48 |
Riddell | Tonio__: when you say "Hide the unusable sharing systems (nfs isn't installed by default)" what does that mean? | 07:48 |
Riddell | nixternal: which list? | 07:49 |
Tonio__ | Riddell: that we should see the nfs box if nfs isn't installed/active | 07:49 |
nixternal | list? | 07:49 |
Riddell | nixternal: KGX or GNU/Linux, but usually just Kubuntu | 07:49 |
Riddell | Tonio__: so hide the NFS box | 07:49 |
Tonio__ | Riddell: hum okay I'm changing the text | 07:51 |
Riddell | Tonio_: no! | 07:51 |
Riddell | I'm editing | 07:51 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: okay | 07:51 |
Riddell | Tonio_: I'm done, no content changed but turned lists into paragraphs and proofread the grammer | 07:58 |
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Tonio_ | Riddell: okay | 08:21 |
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Lure | Riddell: what is the state of getting bug 67889 in edgy-updates (or at least -proposed)? people are pushing for this fix... | 08:39 |
Ubugtu | Malone bug 67889 in kdebase "(edgy) SRU: KDE crashes when logout is canceled" [Medium,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/67889 | 08:39 |
Riddell | Lure: it needs you to keep poking me until I upload it | 08:40 |
Riddell | Lure: today I promise! | 08:40 |
Lure | Riddell: ok, thanks | 08:41 |
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allee | ajmitch or tonio_: would be nice if one of you could organize for ldap or samba bof a device for voip. don't know how they get distributed, but list only contains the morning bofs yet. | 09:30 |
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allee | Hi Tonio_ | 09:35 |
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allee | [21:30] <allee> ajmitch or tonio_: would be nice if one of you could organize for ldap or samba bof a device for voip. don't know how they get distributed, but list only contains the morning bofs yet. | 09:35 |
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Lure | allee: I think they always just publish voip table for half a day, so there will e probably an updated in next hour (during lunch time) | 09:56 |
Lure | allee: and all bof sessions have voip afaik | 09:56 |
allee | Lure: hmm, okay. Maybe then not all sessions are listed | 09:58 |
allee | Lure: okay I'll call 5001 == room 2002 for k feisty laptop later independently if it's listed | 09:59 |
allee | THX | 09:59 |
allee | Lure: are you all using gobby? I've not found config data for gobby session yet | 10:01 |
Lure | allee: I do not think so (at least I do not recall anybody from kubuntu guys did it) | 10:01 |
Lure | allee: we use irc for remote feedback | 10:02 |
Lure | allee: so it is more like one way and only voice in other direction | 10:02 |
allee | okay. | 10:03 |
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alleeHol | Lure: ldap bof: first lots of echo then silence. Did you switch voip off | 11:10 |
alleeHol | +? | 11:11 |
Lure | alleeHol: I am not there - ping in #udsmtv | 11:11 |
alleeHol | oh, sorry s/Lure/ ajmitch | 11:11 |
alleeHol | k thx | 11:11 |
Lure | alleeHol: I am on X config session | 11:11 |
alleeHol | Lure there it was much better have fun | 11:11 |
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allee | Lure: feisty laptop bof voip appears to be dead :( | 12:08 |
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