=== Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === claydoh [n=clay@216-220-245-136.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === allee [n=ach@allee.mpe.mpg.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:48] mo [12:49] toma: ? ;) [12:50] allee: thats short for 'hi Hobbsee, how are you! Goodmorning!' [12:50] toma: please add to kdict ;) [12:50] ;-) [12:50] haha [12:50] ah, before I forget: hi Hobbsee, how are you! Goodmorning! [12:50] toma: heya :) [12:50] hey allee :) [12:51] Hobbsee: your not in MTV? [12:51] allee: nope, exams [12:51] next week, and assignments [12:52] Hobbsee: I'll bug our network admin tomorrow uto death until I get VOIP working. I want at least to participate once ;) [12:52] allee: hehe :) [12:52] allee: not sure how much kubuntu stuff is happening via UDS - you'd have to ask Riddell === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [12:53] Hobbsee: there also server stuff I'm interested in. but I don't dare to ask until it works [12:54] yeah! knetworkmangaer works again [12:54] allee: yay! [12:54] allee: i doubt they'll bite you [12:55] Hobbsee: but it's a waste of their time when your network admin don't poke the right holes into the fw [12:55] allee: true [12:56] Hobbsee: after exams, you'll relax with a lots of poking with a stick here again? [12:57] allee: yep, and do merging, etc [12:57] ah, merging .... drums roll .... [12:57] yep [12:57] we should look at doing that sanely too [12:57] i just havent had time [12:57] you have already an alioth acount? [12:57] nope [12:58] allee: ;-) [12:58] Hobbsee: => KubuntuKDEExtras [12:58] toma: heh, you guessed it :) [12:58] allee: yeah i saw it in my email, thanks :) === mbiebl [n=michael@e180073004.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee isnt about to start dev'ing for debian [12:58] OMG, ssstttt, you can not say that [12:59] well, debian specifically [12:59] Hobbsee: me, too. But I commit to alioth and let the sync magic do the stuff instead of merging [12:59] true [12:59] ^^ sure not possible with all pkgs [12:59] true [01:00] kubuntu needs some kind of VCS for packages. each packager having his $HOME/packages/ just isn't good enought. imho. [01:00] nite. [01:00] fdoving: heh, famous last word (for today) [01:00] nite fdoving [01:01] everyone agrees so it's not worth a discussion, nite :) === toma nods [01:01] fdoving: we can discuss anyway [01:01] :P [01:03] yeap, looks like a policy for backports soon exists. So after some testing stuff can move from $home/package to backports === ash211_ [n=andrew@user-1121lvf.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:03] as long as 10 other MOTUs agree [01:03] Hobbsee: how much kubuntu stuff is happening at UDS?!?!? loads and loads and LOADS! [01:03] Riddell: yes, but via VOIP???? [01:04] it's not really scheduled [01:04] i've no question on whether stuff is happening or not [01:04] didnt think so :P [01:04] the schedule worked well for about two days but it's broken down now [01:04] yeah, suspected as much - the team is much smaller [01:04] Riddell: i had something to tell you, from #kde-devel. now i just have to remember what it was === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.176.100] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:06] hey Jucato [01:06] moin Hobbsee! :) === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:13] hi folks [01:13] me gain [01:13] I have found a reproducablem kde-bug; should I submit it to KDE or launchpad [01:13] it's about the non-working screensaver for some in edgy [01:14] both? [01:14] you can link hte LP one to the one upstream [01:14] ok [01:14] np [01:14] just a copt+paste [01:14] 1 moment === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:23] #70991 [01:23] bug 70991 [01:23] Malone bug 70991 in kdeartwork "Disabling energy saving of monitor; changes the normal screensaver to a e.g. blank screen or a screen with an X" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/70991 === claydoh [n=clay@216-220-245-136.midmaine.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:32] jeroenvrp: oh, and I wondered by I suddenly had this X screensaver. Thought it was Tonio_ fault' ;) [01:32] oh la la === allee hides [01:33] allee: that's X default config, nothing yo do with kde :) [01:33] allee: I don't know whos fault it is, but I glad I've found this bug :-) [01:33] and if I had to do it I would have choosen something better :) === allee tries hard to hide better [01:34] yes I proberly listed it on the wrong place, but I really didn't know where to list it [01:34] allee: bah that's fine :) [01:36] jeroenvrp: the behaviour, makes not sense. If engery saving is on, then not screensaver should be used because the backlight will be switched of and any screensaver can't be seen. [01:37] allee: well if energy saver is on; it's normal that first a scrresaver comes up [01:37] afaiu, energy saving should use the dpms settings [01:38] but if energy saver is off it makes no sense to eat the screensaver === Lure [i=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:39] jeroenvrp: right, screensaver can be seen if dpms setting is bigger than idle time until screensaver appears [01:42] jeroenvrp: the screensaver and dpms section of the output of xset q, maybe helpful to understand what's wrong [01:43] allee: Do you need an output of something? [01:45] jeroenvrp: I assume this would make it easier. Have a look at xset q output. There's info on Screensaver and DPMS. Maybe one can see there what goes wrong [01:46] allee: ok - when the enegry saving is off, I presume? [01:49] allee: ok, I did it with both settings (only 2 lines diff); I will paste it in the bug [01:50] k [01:52] allee: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdeartwork/+bug/70991 [01:52] Malone bug 70991 in kdeartwork "Disabling energy saving of monitor; changes the normal screensaver to a e.g. blank screen or a screen with an X" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [01:52] k thx === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.149.0.213] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:53] good luck with it [01:53] I'm going to do other things === jeroenvrp [n=jeroenvr@k-uptown.xs4all.nl] has left #kubuntu-devel ["The] === Lure [i=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === yuriy [n=yuriy@dhcp-129-64-153-72.dorm.brandeis.edu] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === _nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:11] Jucato: ping? === shnee [n=CurtyD13@cpe-65-24-168-255.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:26] heya Hobbsee [02:27] hey imbrandon! [02:28] <_nixternal> hiya everyone! [02:30] hey _nixternal [02:31] imbrandon: what magic did you figure out today? [02:31] 42 [02:38] :P === ash211 [n=andrew@user-1121lvf.dsl.mindspring.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:21] imbrandon: are you going to write koffice-by-default or should we get someone else to do it? [03:22] well, less write more delete all the comments and turn some bullet points into prose [03:22] <_nixternal> oy Riddell, are you enjoying yourself this week? [03:23] nixternal: when I'm not feeling too stressed with the sheer amount of stuff to be done over the next 6 months :) [03:23] <_nixternal> ya, i hear ya, but just think, i will be here hounding you as well for the next 6 months, but i call that working ;) [03:24] Riddell gets stressed? [03:24] <_nixternal> if you have some easy things to get done, and im around, i can lend a hand to help you out, that goes for all you goofy KDE devs ;) [03:24] <_nixternal> except Hobbsee ;) [03:24] hrmmm? === _nixternal waits for a stick attack [03:24] nixternal: Port ubiquity to Qt4 === _nixternal parts "bwahahahahahaha" === Hobbsee attacks _nixternal with her Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (tm) [03:25] too slow [03:25] <_nixternal> damn, trademarked it as well === Hobbsee could make you do that [03:25] <_nixternal> CC-by-SA 2.5? [03:25] Or better yet, package PyQt4.1 (the qt 4.2 version) [03:25] <_nixternal> sebas: i will get right on that [03:25] <_nixternal> fancy waiting until next year? [03:25] Ah, cool! [03:25] <_nixternal> ;) === sebas wants QGraphicsView === _nixternal points up and highlights "the easy stuff" [03:26] Uhm, it's just a package :> [03:26] Gotta run out, :** [03:26] <_nixternal> hehe [03:26] <_nixternal> later [03:31] _nixternal: "The KDEPIM package should depend on libgpgme >= 0.4.7. If it does not, complain to the packager." [03:31] ryan@rkavanagh:~$ apt-cache show kdepim | grep libgpgme outputs nothing [03:31] <_nixternal> nice [03:32] who's the packager? :D [03:32] <_nixternal> not me [03:32] lol [03:32] not me [03:32] <_nixternal> heh [03:33] lol [03:33] <_nixternal> there he went [03:33] <_nixternal> hahaha [03:33] Lure.... [03:33] <_nixternal> no, but it would be funny if he was [03:33] chicken! [03:33] lol [03:33] <_nixternal> hahahaha [03:33] <_nixternal> apt-get src kdepim [03:33] Maintainer: Ubuntu Core Developers [03:33] <_nixternal> vi /kdepim/debian/control [03:34] <_nixternal> add the libgpgme stuff in the depends [03:34] that happens to be very helpfull [03:34] <_nixternal> then cd .. [03:34] yes, I know :D [03:34] <_nixternal> debuild -S ;) [03:34] and then pbuilder it :D [03:34] <_nixternal> hahahaha [03:34] should I file a bug as well? [03:34] <_nixternal> i would [03:34] <_nixternal> if it depends on that, but isn't setup to do so, then it is a bug [03:34] because that automagicly kills my GPG encryption in KMail... from what I see based on the document [03:35] <_nixternal> really [03:35] file a bug for it, yeah [03:35] I can encrypt and sign, but I can,t decrypt... [03:35] !info libgpgme [03:35] Package libgpgme does not exist in any distro I know [03:35] !info libgpgme edgy [03:35] Package libgpgme does not exist in edgy [03:35] <_nixternal> my gpg encryption works fine, and i can even receive encrypted emails and pinentry will ask for my password and decrypt it right there in kmail [03:35] !info libgpgme11 [03:35] libgpgme11: GPGME - GnuPG Made Easy. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.2-2 (edgy), package size 162 kB, installed size 356 kB [03:36] libgpgme11-dev as a build dep, i expect [03:36] !info libgpgme6 [03:36] libgpgme6: GPGME - GnuPG Made Easy. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.16-2 (edgy), package size 66 kB, installed size 172 kB [03:36] <_nixternal> optional is a good clue [03:36] odd... just a sec, I'll get you the errors... [03:37] Today 16:51:58 [03:37] Encrypted message (decryption not possible) [03:37] Reason: Crypto plug-in "openpgp" could not decrypt the data. [03:37] Error: Bad passphrase [03:37] Encrypted data not shown. [03:37] End of encrypted message [03:38] do I pastebin the apt-cache show kdepim output? [03:38] I mean add it to the bug report? [03:47] _nixternal, Hobbsee: done, bug 71012 [03:47] Malone bug 71012 in kdepim "KDE-PIM isn't built with "libgpgme >= 0.4.7" as a dependency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71012 === _nixternal doesn't touch that with a 10 foot pole [03:48] ryanakca: can you subscribe me to that bug please? [03:48] _nixternal: neither. i dont run those apps [03:49] <_nixternal> i love kmail, can't live w/o it [03:49] <_nixternal> i could never go back to mutt or pine after kmail [03:49] <_nixternal> it is hard for me to use irssi after konversation now...the gui has spoiled me baddly [03:49] done [03:49] lol, same [03:49] :) [03:50] konversation is not part of kdepim! === Hobbsee is thinking of trying otu kmail again [03:50] <_nixternal> actually Hobbsee, konversation ties in nicely with kdepim now ;) [03:50] it probably does. how so/ [03:50] <_nixternal> kmail hasn't crashed on me at all with edgy [03:51] <_nixternal> i can link you here in konversation to your info in my kaddressbook [03:51] <_nixternal> so i can right click your name in konvo, and send you a file via email if need be, or send an email right from konvo [03:52] <_nixternal> or, put your hackergotchi in kaddressbook, and it shows up next to your name in konversation ;) [03:52] <_nixternal> but that gets annoying after a while [03:52] ah right === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Tonio_ [n=tonio@38.99.84.33] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.92.51] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.92.51] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === lnxkde [n=lnxkde@206.248.92.51] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez -> bed === serzholino [n=serzholi@16x.zp.ua] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.176.100] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato_ [n=jucato@58.69.179.108] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Jucato [n=jucato@124.106.192.92] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Riddell -> bed [08:14] night Riddell :) === nixternal_ [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:24] _Sime: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuFeistySystemSettings [08:24] <_Sime> hi [08:24] morning :) [08:24] _Sime: should we start a System Settings for KDE 4 campaign? [08:25] <_Sime> Riddell: who do we lobby? :) [08:25] ooh System Settings... [08:25] <_Sime> Riddell: the system settings / kcontrol / modules discussion needs to open. [08:25] _Sime: kde-core-devel, tech working group [08:26] <_Sime> Riddell: It will be interesting for guidance. I've also been slowly working on a kind of annoucement / "Statement of intention" for PyKDE. [08:26] <_Sime> Riddell: basically PyKDE will go into KDE SVN proper. [08:29] Riddell: still up? 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[01:04] Malone bug 71012 in kdepim "KDE-PIM isn't built with "libgpgme >= 0.4.7" as a dependency" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71012 [01:04] ryanakca: yeah, if you want. [01:05] ryanakca: who tends to upload kdepim? [01:05] dunno... I'm guessing imbrandon might have something to do with it... same with riddell... [01:05] no clue about anybody else [01:05] oh, tonio does [01:06] and imbrandon doesnt touch kdepim :P === Hobbsee wonders if debian or someone else has fixed it === ryanakca downloads the source and checks the changelog [01:06] ryanakca: i'm not sure if debian's and ours will be merged in [01:06] you dont need to d othat [01:06] kk [01:06] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdepim for one thing [01:06] lol [01:06] also, changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/kdepim/ should also tell you [01:07] we have a changelogs.ubuntu.com? heh... [01:08] yep [01:08] we also have a patches.ubuntu.com and a merges.ubuntu.com [01:08] The requested URL /changelogs/pool/main/kdepim/ was not found on this server. [01:08] merges... never figured out how to do those [01:08] go back to changelogs.ubuntu.com [01:08] i guessed the address [01:09] http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/k/kdepim/ [01:09] ah, that's right [01:09] i *knew* i;d miss something! [01:09] lol [01:10] Riddel, Tonio, Daniel Holbach (what's his irc nick again?), schepler from debian, and raphink all the way back in May [01:11] dholbach [01:11] yep [01:11] oh well, i might poke that in a few days [01:11] else just upload it anyway [01:11] well, poke someone to upload it [01:11] seeing as i dont plan on going for core === sebas_ [i=sebas@belphegor.deadlysins.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:12] kk [01:13] should be easy to fix, unless they did "The packager has shipped a patched version of KMail that does not require GpgME to build. Needless to say that in this case, this howto won't be of any use for you, since such a stripped-down KMail won't support cryptography anyway." [01:13] ryanakca: of course. i'd prefer to fix a few more things in one upload, maybe? [01:13] that may be SRU-able, too, i guess [01:14] yeah === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:19] bbl, school === Jucato wonders what it feels like to be in school again... === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel === cain_ [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #kubuntu-devel [01:41] imbrandon: ping? [01:41] oh wrong time of day, darn === Hobbsee wishes she still had root access [01:41] Hobbsee: 6:42am CST [01:41] Jucato: yeah :( [01:42] Jucato, 4:42 am in MTV [01:42] well, normal people would be awake by that time :P [01:42] Mez: hehe good morning to you :) [01:42] Jucato: afternnon [01:43] and I best be going to work as soon as all this has transferred to my MP3 player === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@vpnc134.ugent.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ingmar^ [n=ingmar@vpnb188.ugent.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=ubuntu@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Ingmar [n=ingmar@vpnc072.ugent.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jsgotangco [n=greatwhi@125.212.63.102] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hawkwind Pokes Jucato and Hobbsee just for fun [02:58] grrr... === Hobbsee attacks Hawkwind with her Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (tm) [02:59] told you [02:59] hehe [02:59] Jucato: Hah [02:59] haha, told you too ;) === mode/#kubuntu-devel [+o Hobbsee] by ChanServ [02:59] omg [02:59] Hrrrr. === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community-leader/Hawkwind] has left #kubuntu-devel [requested] === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community-leader/Hawkwind] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:59] Jucato: Hobbsee pinged you last night, have you ponged her back :P === mode/#kubuntu-devel [-o Hobbsee] by ChanServ [02:59] Dohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [02:59] Hobbsee: you ping'ed me earlier? sorry I wasn't here... (or I was, but my internet connection must have been whacked) [02:59] hi Tm_T :) [02:59] Hi kids. [03:00] Jucato: ahh, right. forum ambassador stuff, was thinking in terms of kubuntu forums. you're a little late now though [03:00] LOL @ (tm) [03:00] I'm definitely late... [03:00] yep :P [03:00] forum abassador? === Hobbsee notes that the entire class laughed at her for being late today. [03:00] I barely settled in with Edgy, so I'm pretty disoriented with all the Feisty planning going on... [03:00] ahh [03:00] jsgotangco: connectoin between the forums and the devs [03:01] Jucato: Time to get yourself situated. You're needed [03:01] Hawkwind: if you didn't get that last part, she said that I'm late already :P [03:01] Hobbsee: oh its like having a consular office or something lol [03:01] jeezz [03:01] lol [03:01] how so? [03:02] i dunno how am i different from a forum poster === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community-leader/Hawkwind] has left #kubuntu-devel ["It's] === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community-leader/Hawkwind] has joined #Kubuntu-Devel [03:02] jsgotangco: you know more dev stuff than they do :P [03:03] jsgotangco: but yes, the idea that the devs dont already know what the users want is rather....crazy [03:04] Hobbsee: but the devs not knowing what the users are experiencing isn't as crazy as it sounds [03:04] Jucato: why so? [03:04] why so? === |joe| [n=joe@p54942C5B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:04] we dont live in ivory towers [03:05] <|joe|> hello [03:05] Jucato: and there's a difference between what they want, and what they're experiencing [03:05] the changes for System Settings for one [03:05] hey |joe| [03:05] <|joe|> Hobbsee: i was looking for you yesterday but i think i'm not anymore :), because of knights [03:05] |joe|: ooh, what about it? [03:06] <|joe|> Hobbsee: crashes in edgy, but mez already took care of it [03:06] |joe|: ahhh [03:06] fair enough === Hobbsee didnt actually test that one, iirc === sredna [n=anders@kde/developer/alund] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:08] hey sredna! [03:09] <|joe|> Riddell: ? [03:09] too early, its only 0600 in california [03:10] <|joe|> aaah [03:10] wow! seele is in here?! [03:10] mhb: ping === Jucato bows down to the two Usability ladies [03:10] heya Jucato :) [03:11] haha [03:11] hi el! :) === Hobbsee wonders who seele is. She hasnt heard of seele [03:11] must be someone famous and cool, though :) [03:11] Hobbsee: i was at UDS-MtV [03:11] heh :) === Hobbsee waves to the mysterious seele [03:11] Hobbsee: im a KDE chica [03:11] ah :) [03:11] Celeste Paul. KDE HIG [03:11] ahhhhh.... [03:11] her interview in the Dot caused quite a ruckus :P [03:12] er.. in people.kde.nl actually [03:12] so *you're* the famous Celeste too, that i hear discussed === Hobbsee feels so out of the loop [03:12] lol [03:12] lol [03:12] im famous? not rich tho, hehe [03:12] glamorous would be fab as well [03:12] Jucato: why so? === Hobbsee isnt sure if she ever saw that interview [03:13] :) === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:15] Hobbsee: http://dot.kde.org/1156972507/ [03:15] thanks. i'm lazy [03:15] to make a long story short: most of the discussion revolved around comments about her looks :) === Hobbsee did upload a few things, and request some syncs though === jsgotangco permanently switches to KDE [03:17] Your a Gnome user ? [03:17] jsgotangco: good for you ;) [03:17] oh yeah, i did see this.... === Hobbsee hugs poor seele [03:17] s/Your/You're [03:17] bah, i didnt care ;) [03:17] Jucato: so i noticed. seems that us women need lots of duct tape, to put over men's eyes [03:17] seele: it's kind of a compliment, anyway :) [03:18] Hobbsee: ehehe... I guess some guys just couldn't help it. seele *is* pretty :) === Jucato runs and hides [03:18] its kind of silly to not expect comments -- good or bad -- when a picture is posted [03:18] Hawkwind: was KDE user before, contributed years and years ago, moved to oz project, moved to gnome did some stuff, rested a bit, been using kde for quite a while and switched [03:18] back [03:18] seele: that is true. which is why i dont show pictures, of course :P [03:18] Hobbsee: lol [03:19] for all its worth, someone saw my pic before in a UDS and made me a hackergotchi [03:19] i didnt even ask [03:20] ah yes, i saw that interview [03:20] seele: a co-lover of chocolate! yay! [03:21] Hobbsee: chocolate > * [03:21] :) [03:21] seele: more chocolate > some chocolate :P === alleeHol is now known as allee [03:21] Hobbsee: you should listen to her Konqcast interview... the part that aseigo didn't edit out :P [03:22] oh? [03:22] does aaron hang out here??? [03:22] no [03:22] he's in #kubuntu though [03:22] weird [03:22] fun guy to be with though [03:23] Jucato: ;-P [03:25] <|joe|> Hobbsee: is there any women who does not like chocolate? :) [03:25] |joe|: sure. my friend isnt a fan of it [03:25] i knew one who was allergic to it === Hobbsee too [03:26] mmm...chocolate... [03:26] Though I'm not a woman, chocolate is disgusting. White chocolate is good but other than that, ya'll can have that nasty stuff :P [03:26] who brought that up? it's got 1am! [03:26] Hawkwind: excellent! hand it over! [03:26] <|joe|> Hobbsee: kind of exception confirming the rule :) === Hawkwind Throws all the chocolate in the US into #Kubuntu-Devel for Hobbsee and seele [03:27] thankyou :) === Hobbsee munches happily [03:27] that's it? === Hobbsee wonders if imbrandon has been cured of his mountain dew addiction yet [03:27] <|joe|> Hobbsee: anyway month ago i was in choc-musem, my friend was just mad about it, so we had to go to cologne [03:27] i could easily take out the stock in all of north amarica and be working towards the south === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:27] hehe [03:27] Hobbsee: I certainly have been re-cured :) [03:28] seele: just leave me aust and europe, right? [03:28] Jucato: heh [03:28] Hobbsee: maybe, if you promise to send me presents from there :) === Jucato wonders if Hawkwind has more... [03:28] seele: hehe. now the postage from that would be nasty [03:28] Hmmh, anyone using bluetooth? How do you manage to pair devices? [03:29] i have one bluetooth device [03:29] Tm_T: hmmm deja vu [03:29] Jucato: Take some of Hobbsee's and seele's :) [03:29] Me and two other guys am wondering how it happens, just can't figure out why it doesn't work. [03:29] hence, pairing doesnt exist [03:29] :) [03:29] ugh! sudden lag! [03:30] abattoir: ? [03:30] abattoir: Yu, I have been asking this earlier too. :) [03:30] Tm_T: haven't we had this discussion before? pre-edgy? ;) [03:30] Yes. [03:30] <|joe|> Tm_T: how it happens or how you do it in linux? [03:30] Tm_T: i do it from my phone [03:30] Tm_T: i really don't understand the use for the [03:31] 'Paired Devices' tool/widget or whatever it's called [03:31] hcitool cc && hcitool auth -> HCI authentication request failed: Input/output error === Hobbsee beds === Hobbsee ntoes that keyboards may make nice beds [03:31] Hobbsee: Just the imprints aren't nice when you wake up :P [03:31] night Hobbsee! :) [03:32] iv'e done that [03:32] had a nice imprint from my watch [03:32] And the drool can ruin a keyboard too [03:32] Hah [03:32] Hawkwind: not if it's a laptop keyboard ;) [03:32] seeing as i fell asleep on my arm in a library. well, in many libraries [03:32] Hobbsee: Sleep well. :) [03:32] and this is a laptop [03:32] abattoir: Heh, I've never fallen asleep on my laptop === Hobbsee notes that uni probably wont happen in teh morning [03:34] that being said, some of tomorrow's sessions look interesting === moi1392 [n=vally@81.56.96.78] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:42] hello, does liblazy is to be packaged for ubuntu ? [03:42] it is a dependency, since some times, for kickoff, I just update my kickoff source today and they not compile anymore :( [03:43] *link [03:43] moi1392: Hmm, wait, you have to workaround it, that's "only in suse" thing. [03:44] Tm_T liblazy only in suse ? it was announced in XDG mailing list 2 moth ago :/ [03:44] kickoff in SUSE [03:44] moi1392: Dunno, that's what I heard, anyway, you don't need it. [03:44] yes, but it work on kubuntu if you build it ;) [03:45] Like I did. ;) === marseillai_ [n=cyril@AMarseille-256-1-146-66.w90-10.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:45] too bad it's that much included in kdebase ad cannot be extracted easyly :( [03:45] moi1392: I have ugly way to fix compilation problem, I'll paste it all to somewhere, so hold on. :) [03:46] moi1392: Btw all you have to compile&&install is kdebase/kicker and kdebase/kcontrol/kicker [03:46] Tm_T : me too, I hack Makefiles directly :p but here i'm not sure, i try to remove the dependency but if it is used, it will not compile much better [03:47] moi1392: Nah, you can safely just skip it. [03:47] Makefile hack is fine. [03:47] ok, tanks :) [03:48] no, here I compile all kdebase above kubuntu kdelibs, juste disable beagle because it wont compile well for me [03:50] :) [03:51] -llazy removed, start rebuild and all looks fine :) tanks:) [03:51] are hey plan to include kickoff in fiesty ? === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:57] Riddell: ping [04:01] Howdy folks [04:01] hi bddebian! [04:02] Tm_T: is BT pairing now working for you? [04:02] is that like a script or something where you greet every channel with a different greeting [04:03] bddebian: ^^ [04:03] Heya Jucato, jsgotangco [04:03] :D === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:05] allee: Nope, auth fails. [04:06] Tm_T: good to know. I need BT pairing before I can move to edgy. [04:07] Tm_T: is this KDE or gnome specific or happens with edgy in general? [04:07] Tm_T: if it's KDE specific I'm try to reimplement my old automatic pairing stuff === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === toma [n=toma@84-53-90-221.wxdsl.nl] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel === marseillai_ is now known as marseillai === |joe| [n=joe@p549412C9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:45] hi seele [04:51] Riddell: is it possible to use launchpad to handle packages (debian dirs) with bzr? [04:51] without the upstream source. [04:52] like svn.debian.org [04:54] fdoving: it's entirely encuraged [04:54] encouraged [04:54] see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BzrMaintainedPackages [04:54] https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BzrMaintainerHowto [04:55] ah thanks! [04:56] what team should let's say, kio-apt be under? kubuntu-team or kubuntu-members? [05:00] allee: Seems to be bluez bug. [05:00] allee: I'm now starting to test one thing that should workaround that. [05:00] Tm_T: thx [05:01] weird, the channel didnt highlight when my name was said [05:01]