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hazardpersonally, I like echo "" >test12:14
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shahbaz_anybody who can help me with beryl on edgy12:14
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hyperactivecrondshabaz_: /join #ubuntu-xgl12:14
Kannix_*sigh* I can't make up my mind. Should I use Gnome or KDE ...12:14
Kannix_In KDE I like amarok and Kmail. However, I don't like the way KDE handles non-kde applications, such as Firefox.12:15
Kannix_I always have problems with the font settings.12:15
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SanneKannix_: you can have KDE apps on Gnome or vice versa12:15
Kannix_Sanne: But the whole point of "integration" is gone if I do that.12:16
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inteliwaspi am trying to install some software from source but i get errors with libjpeg and qt, how can i resolve them?12:16
SanneKannix_: hmmm, never bothered me that much12:16
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Kannix_Sanne: Right now for example, I am running Amarok on Gnome and it looks kind of funny.12:17
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letalisif i want to set an environment variable for kde, where would be the best place to set that at?12:17
letalisi want to disable ipv6 lookups12:17
SanneKannix_: you would still need to use kcontrol for configuring kde apps12:17
hazardI usually dump them in my bashrc file, but you might be talking about something else12:17
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Kannix_Sanne: And using KMail in Gnome ... well ... it might work, but it will probably be hellish to set up so clicking on "send mail" will fire it up etc.12:17
Sanneinteliwasp: paste the errors to a pastebin, maybe somebody knows12:18
inteliwasp!ipv6 > letalis12:18
markelhashummm ok them12:18
markelhastry later on12:18
markelhasce u12:18
inteliwasp!ipv6 | letalis12:18
ubotuletalis: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv412:18
markelhasthnks for the help12:18
SanneKannix_: yes, that may be. Never tried that, so I can't really comment on that.12:18
Kannix_Sanne: And to make Amarok stream via my proxy, I already had to install some KDE networking stuff because it ignores the Gnome proxy settings and cannot set its own.12:18
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Kannix_Sanne: So from an enduser point, KDE would probably be the better choice for me.12:19
hyperactivecrondKannix_: yes.12:19
markelhaskubuntu to desktop have to wait a little mor :)12:19
hazardvpc is so slooooooww....12:19
SanneKannix_: seems so12:19
markelhasexit12:20
hyperactivecrondalthough kannix, if you wish to use AIM with Kopete, visit http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136566 and download and install the patched version available at the bottom of the page12:20
letalisyeah i did that, it just seems like konq takes forever to load some webpages which opera or fiefox do flawlessly12:20
inteliwaspmy error log from ./configure   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30689/12:20
letalisand frankly, i like konq better than both of em12:20
letalis:)12:20
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hazardother than konquror's name, it sorta annoys me.12:20
Kannix_hyperactivecrond: Well, I use neither.12:21
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Kannix_hyperactivecrond: that is AIM and Kopte.12:21
Sanneinteliwasp: it doesn't find the qt development headers. Did you install them? Some package with -dev and qt in it's name ;)12:21
inteliwaspletalis:  there are firefox tweeks out there to help...12:21
hyperactivecrondKannix_: ok just making sure :)12:21
letalisyeah what i am saying is i think kde is still doing ipv6 lookups12:21
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letalisi want to set the kde env variable to disable it but i am unsure as to where i would need to do it12:22
letalisjust add it to my shell rc?12:22
Sanneinteliwasp: I think it's: libqt3-mt-dev12:22
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hazardshould work12:22
Kannix_hyperactivecrond: Gnome is written in C, KDE in C++. That's why I am reluctant. I can read C quite fluently and only "spell" C++. In my experience, C leads to better performance most of the time, too.12:22
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letalisthe other thing i have issues with is setting zsh as my default shell, when i do kdm wont let me log into X12:23
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letalisi did a workaround for it but id like to actually set zsh as my default shell12:23
suntzuplease how do i know why i have some packages retained (not upgraded)12:24
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Kannix_suntzu: probably because some depending packages are not ready for upgrade yet?12:25
Sanneinteliwasp: for the other libs, try libjpeg62-dev and libpng12-dev, that's what I have installed12:25
suntzuKannix_ : is there any way to know which package is impeding the upgrade?12:25
hazardwhat option would I use with cp to have it copy something ONLY if the target file dosen't already exsist?12:25
Kannix_suntzu: Do you have "aptitutude" installed?12:26
Kannix_suntzu: That states it usually quite elaborately why updates are not working.12:26
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suntzuyes, but i use apt-get should i use aptitude instead?12:26
suntzuok12:27
inteliwaspwile i am waiting on adept, is there any known problems with xmms in 6.10? or has mine just craped out?12:27
aldin30 times mounted check forced-> how to disable this, btw ext3 FS12:27
Sanneinteliwasp: did you get all my suggestions?12:27
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Kannix_suntzu: Yes, use aptitude.12:27
inteliwaspSanne:  yes i did12:28
suntzuKannix_ ok thanks12:28
Sanneinteliwasp: fine, just checking ;)12:28
jpedrozaIs anyone here using the PPC version of Kubuntu?12:28
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inteliwaspSanne:  they came with the qt dev files12:28
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Sanneinteliwasp: who "they"?12:29
aldinmessage: chkdisk, 30 times mounted check forced-> how to disable this, btw ext3 FS12:29
inteliwasplibjpeg and lib png12:29
Sanneinteliwasp: ah! ok12:29
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inteliwaspand it would still fail at the same point...12:29
Sanneinteliwasp: oh!12:30
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inteliwaspSanne:  want the config.log?12:30
jpedrozaIs there a chanel for the PPC version of Kubuntu?12:30
Sanneinteliwasp: I just see this package, seems you need it too: libqt3-headers12:30
suntzuKannix_ "aptitude upgrade" doesn't give me more information about why packages are retained than apt-get...12:31
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Kannix_suntzu: you start aptitude, push "u" and then "shift U". That should do it.12:31
inteliwaspSanne:  installing qt3 dev now with compat as well12:31
suntzuKannix_ hehe ok ;)12:32
Sanneinteliwasp: ok12:32
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sledge_at_workwouf: Well, that error message makes think that your drive might have gone bad.12:33
Sanneinteliwasp: if it still fails, paste the new error12:33
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Dark_Vampire!de12:33
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de12:33
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inteliwaspSanne:  ya it got past qt but now i need kde headers... this is looking like a picky program :P12:34
Dark_Vampirehu12:35
Dark_Vampirehi12:35
Sanneinteliwasp: heh :) That's just how it goes with compiling, configure-install-configure-install... etc12:35
Sanneinteliwasp: what are you building?12:35
inteliwaspkpodder12:35
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Dark_VampireCould use a proxy program, where i can say when he should use a other proxy with other IP12:36
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Sanneinteliwasp: btw, if a program starts with a 'k', chances are it wants qt and kde libs ;)12:37
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inteliwaspSanne:  is there a reason the "kde" package is not "installed"?12:38
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Kannix_inteliwasp: it is just the devel stuff you need to install "extra"12:39
inteliwaspand the regular dev too?12:39
Sanneinteliwasp: kde packages are installed, but not the development headers.12:39
Sanneinteliwasp: ubuntu focuses on usual desktop use, so most users won't need those devel packages.12:40
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inteliwasper... i have a brake warning12:41
inteliwaspbreak i mean12:41
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inteliwaspSanne:  when i click to install kde-devel-extras it wants to install 59 other packages "break" itself12:43
Sanneinteliwasp: what does it say exactly?12:43
inteliwaspSanne: BREAK (install)12:44
Sanneinteliwasp: that doesn't tell me much :). Can you try it from the command line and paste the whole output from your command to the error line? sudo apt-get install packagename12:45
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jpedrozaIs anyone using a radeon 9000 with a flat panel? I am trying to figure out why i am getting artifacts on my screen. This is a fresh install.12:45
cpk1jpedroza: it could be purely hardware, you can get artifacts when the card gets too hot12:46
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jpedrozacpk1: These are pink posterizations around the bottom edges of the screen, The machine hasn't been running all day and this is on the live DVD. i just booted it up.12:47
Sanneinteliwasp: are you sure you need kde-devel-extras? From the description I would think you don't. It isn't even in main.12:47
inteliwaspSanne:  ok it needs the kde-devel but that has errors, give me a min to paste it12:47
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jpedrozacpk1: I think it has to do with the settings for the panel, but I am not sure what the correct settings would be.12:48
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Lars_GHi uhhh, all, uhhhh... hello? :)12:49
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inteliwaspSanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30695/12:49
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FearMothhi, does wireless work in edgy? can anyone show me to a tutorial on setting it up? ubuntu dapper let me look through the SSIDs and pick the AP to use, but kubuntu edgy doesn't. when I type my router's SSID and set the WEP key, it still can't connect. anyone else have this problem? all worked well in dapper.12:50
Lars_GQuick question, I just noticed something odd and I guess it happened as a change in config between dapper and edgy. In short, both KDE's and Gnome's file browsing dialogs show only /home and /media when browing from the root. I guess this is a security issue, but since I am the onyl user on this machine and I'm a sloppy pig, I'd like to know how to reenable showing of all my system's dirs in the browsing dialogs.12:50
Sanneinteliwasp: what makes you think you need kde-devel from universe? Why don't you try kdebase-dev from main?12:50
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Lars_GOh don't worry12:51
Lars_GI need to activate "show hidden files". wow and they're listed on .hidden12:52
Lars_Gnifty12:52
Lars_Gvery nifty12:52
Lars_Gthanks all12:52
Sanneinteliwasp: maybe also kdelibs4-dev12:52
Lars_GSanne: kdebase-dev should pull that one12:52
larson9999i'm staying at a hotel for a couple months that only has wireless so i'm trying to get wireless set up in edgy.  i have a linksys wmp11 card that is working find here on the xubuntu dapper live cd.  i have edgy installed though.  how do12:52
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SanneLars_G: yes, but it gives unmet dependencies errors, so I thought trying the official packages from main might be a solution. See inteliwasp's error here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30695/12:53
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SanneLars_G: please disregard my last comment...12:54
inteliwaspSanne:  well kdebase-dev breaks too12:54
Sanneinteliwasp: then there's something amiss either with your system, or it's a bug.12:54
inteliwaspedgy hasent sat well with me for some reason...12:55
Sanneinteliwasp: I just made a dry run aith kdebase-dev on my dapper, and it doesn't give me errors.12:56
inteliwaspi wonder if the upgrade really did finish on my computer...12:57
Lars_Ginteliwasp: Are you using apt-ge tor dpkg?12:57
Sanneinteliwasp: do you have anything installed from unofficial repositories that relates to kde? If not, you might check for bugs on launchpad and maybe report this if it's not already there.12:57
inteliwaspi am first trying to use adept the apt-get   yes i do have the universe and multiverse repos12:58
Sanneinteliwasp: those *should* work12:58
Sanneinteliwasp: with unofficial I meant some user supplied repositories or somesuch12:59
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inteliwaspfunny...i dont have the backports or the universe security repos active...01:00
Lars_Ginteliwasp: Also make sure all your repos point to edgy and none to dapper01:01
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inteliwaspLars_G:  they do01:01
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dude_hi guys01:02
dude_need some help01:02
dude_what do you mean by "could not initialize openGL?"01:03
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dude_jucato !01:06
dude_mawnin!01:06
Jucatodude_: good morning!01:06
inteliwaspSanne:  another thing odd thing about my computer is that there are 33 packages that are upgradable but are not run when i use adept full upgrade01:07
dude_jucato: help01:07
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dude_jucato: what do you mean by "could not initialize openGL?"01:07
Jucatodude_: this is after installing the nvidia beta drivers?01:08
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Sanneinteliwasp: hmm, I hope there's some upgrade expert here who can give you a hand... I never did an upgrade myself so far, sorry.01:09
dude_jucato: yes, actually i managed to run beryl once then after that, could not initialize openGL?01:09
Jucatohm...01:09
sync350ok, im really confused right now, cause all the fonts in firefox (menus and stuff in address bar/links/other stuff) and most other applications are all bold.... what should i do to fix this, cause its really pissin me off :p01:10
dude_jucato: kill X, type as root, rmmod nvidia then modprobe nvidia?01:10
Jucatodude_: er... I don't know... told you I still haven't gone into xgl stuff yet01:11
dude_ok01:11
letalisxgl hijacks opengl. and causes direct rendering to not be possible.01:15
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jpedrozaOk, I am really at a loss here. I have tried many different setting in my xorg.conf file, but I can't get a clear image on my flat panel display.01:15
letalisie. if you got anything you like that runs in 3d, you can forget running it via xgl01:15
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letalissomething to consider when embarking on the beryl track01:17
letalis:)01:17
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letalis:)01:17
campbchok, day 3 of round 1 getting games to work on linux. so far, i got wine, tried installing cod, and was told yesterday to use a loki installer. i did, didnt work, went to bed.01:18
campbchnow, i have cod installed via the loki installer, but it is saying it cannot finda  file01:18
campbchand nothing online is helping01:19
campbchit is giving me the same error - Unhandled exception: page fault on write access to 0x00000001 in 32-bit code (0x0016fedb), as it did when wine wouldn't complete the install01:20
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campbchis anyone here? or is everyone idle? :'(01:28
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Lars_GIn channels as full as these there are normally a few active people, usually when you get no answer in the middle of silence it means nobody knows the answer right then01:31
campbchnot expecting an answer, but the likelyhood of over 100 people saying nothing simultaneously for nearly 5 minutes seemed funny01:32
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campbchnormally what happens when i d/c01:32
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siliticxGood day folks01:33
lterscampbch: what was the question?01:33
siliticxtry #2 on trying to setup the ATI drivers01:34
campbchit's an odd one :( i get an unhandled exception whenever i run this in wine... ill get it one sec...01:34
siliticx!ati01:34
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:34
campbchUnhandled exception: page fault on write access to 0x00000001 in 32-bit code (0x0016fedb)01:34
campbch!wine01:34
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.01:34
sync350ok, im really confused right now, cause all the fonts in firefox (menus and stuff in address bar/links/other stuff) and most other applications are all bold.... what should i do to fix this, cause its really pissin me off :p01:35
lterscampbch: why not vmplayer?01:35
campbchvmplayer?01:35
siliticxmplayer or vnc, whats the best bet?01:35
siliticxerrr01:35
siliticxnlc01:35
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siliticx*vlc01:35
hazardvlc?01:35
hazardthere you go01:35
campbch!vmplayer01:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about vmplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:35
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lterscampbch: lets u run xp/2k etc navtive01:35
campbchubotu makes me feel better about not knowing what vmplayer is01:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about makes me feel better about not knowing what vmplayer is - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:35
campbchwhich is better, then?01:36
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campbchi thought wine was more compatable?01:36
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campbchim trying to get call of duty to run01:36
lterscampbch: lets u run full windows.01:36
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ltersno messing around or half broke stuff. sudo apt-get install vmplayer01:36
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campbchwaiiit a sec01:38
campbchhow does that work?01:38
campbchthe only install of windows i could possibly have is the OEM, which wipes my HD01:38
ltersnope01:39
campbchhmmm?01:39
ltersinstall the player.01:39
campbchso how does it work?01:39
lterscreate a config here: easyvmx.com01:39
Sannecampbch, lters : I don't think running 3D games in vmplayer would be too much fun.01:39
campbch:p word from above?01:39
campbchso that's a no-go?01:39
ltersI don't do 3d, but have friends who say it works.01:40
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ltersvmplayer uses a file for the hd, and XP thinks it is a real computer01:40
Sannecampbch: vmplayer simulates a whole pc including a graphics card. You won't have access to the whole power of your real card. But for hassle free apps which don't need hardware acceleration it is very awesome. But just try it out.01:41
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Sannecampbch: here are some links: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVmPlayer?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=vmplayer&fullsearch=Text01:42
siliticxrunning sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again.i hope i wont have to format this time01:43
campbchim running a laptop with 1gig of ram, 128mb integrated video card... i think COD is going to be shaky enough01:43
Sannecampbch: what is COD?01:43
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campbchcall of duty01:44
campbch:P01:44
Sanne:)01:44
Lars_Glters: Nope it wont work well01:44
Lars_Gvmware is NOT designed for games01:44
Lars_GPray the game works in cedega (and pay for cedega) or dual boot01:45
campbchok, in which case, i won't use it... but that brings me back to the original question01:45
campbchUnhandled exception: page fault on write access to 0x00000001 in 32-bit code (0x0016fedb) <<< what does it MEAN, and how do i fix it?01:45
Lars_Gyou can only fix it if you have the source code01:45
ltersLars_G: good to know, thanks01:45
campbcheverything is PERFECT it even puts the big black box that goes there before the screen resizes and BAM it closes01:45
Lars_GI wouldn't call that perfect you know01:46
campbchand i dont want to get cedega :'( this is one game that should work without those kinds of problems01:46
campbchperfect IE nothing else is wrong01:46
campbchthat i can see01:46
Lars_Gis it a native linux game?01:46
campbchand i really want to see how my laptop runs in 3d compared to before01:46
Lars_GWas it ported by loki?01:46
campbchthere is a loki installer01:46
Lars_Gis it a native game? and who did the port?01:47
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campbchnot a native game, there is an installer, that you run, and it gives you shell files that run the game for you01:47
letalisif its got a loki installer you may be able to get away with just having wine installed01:47
Lars_GSo it "should" run in wine and doesn't that will be hard if possible at all to fix01:47
campbchit handles the mounting, unmounting of disks between the change and01:47
campbchok01:47
campbchagain01:47
letalisit works for soldier of fortune II01:47
campbchi got it installed, am running in wine, and this is what i am doing01:48
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campbchbut WINE gives me Unhandled exception: page fault on write access to 0x00000001 in 32-bit code (0x0016fedb) in the console when i run it01:48
Lars_GCorrect01:48
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campbchwhy does wine say this? what is causing this particular problem?01:48
campbchthis game is rated as 100% perfect by the appdb, so it SHOULD be working, which it does01:48
siliticx_!ati01:48
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:48
Lars_GYou would need to learn how to code. Create a debug version of wine, hook to it with a debugger, debug the code, and then spent some time recoding wine files until it works.01:48
Lars_Gor, try a different version of wine01:49
campbchit works01:49
campbchthey say it works01:49
campbchand im using the version01:49
campbchim sure of it01:49
Lars_GTHE version?01:49
campbchthat makes it work01:49
campbchyes01:49
Lars_GThen it's working!01:49
campbch9.16 is tested01:49
campbchbut 9.24 is current, i went out and got 9.1601:49
campbch9.9 is repository :( dont know how that happened01:49
letaliswhats your setup i386? amd64 what?01:49
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Lars_Ggood question01:49
campbchi38601:50
letaliswell that rules out the arch problems, if their were any to be had :)01:50
campbchagreed01:50
campbchthat was my first thing, i went to #winehq to see if there were any args i could pass to force it to read in 32bit01:51
campbchbut noone is there01:51
letalisits odd that the loki installer isnt working though01:51
campbchit is working01:51
campbchwine gives me the error01:51
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campbchthe loki installer already did its job01:51
letalisusually it sets up the configuration for wine with the settings thatll make the game run01:51
letaliswhich it obviously didnt do lol01:51
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letalisthis is for call of duty did i read that right?01:53
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campbchagain, i made a change someone suggested and removed the extras from the list of possible binaries, got Unhandled exception: illegal instruction in 32-bit code (0x0016fef1)01:53
campbchyes01:53
letalislet me check the cedega wiki for problems that theyve had, and i might be able to help you a little bit01:54
campbchnot cedega, im in wine01:54
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campbchi cant buy cedega01:54
letaliscedega and wine are very closely related01:54
campbchyes01:54
campbchbut not for quite some time01:54
siliticx_erm, lets say i change xorg.conf, do ihave to ctrl+alt+backspace?01:54
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campbchwe can try, i guess, but it didnt come up when i googled the error01:55
vipercatwould someone please point me in the direction of the upgrade instructions using alternate cd ?01:55
dude_jucato: what the command of killing an app, my kaffeine doesn't open01:55
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Sannesiliticx: that's one way to restart the x server, which you would need to do if you want your modified xorg.conf to be used. So yes ;)01:56
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letalisjudging from the versions of cedega its known to run on, it has a pretty high probability of running in wine, the thing is somewhere its hanging up and dying.01:57
letalisare your video drivers configured in X for direct rendering?01:57
letalisand what type of video card are we talking about01:58
campbchintegrated01:59
campbchintel, 64mb01:59
campbchhow do i check whether x is configured right?01:59
Sannevipercat: Under section "Upgrading using apt-get", point 4. "If you have the edgy alternate install CD": https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades01:59
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letaliscampbch: i imagine that if youre coming from a version of windows that CoD ran there before you switched over02:00
vipercatthankyou02:00
campbchi wiped everything when i switched02:00
letalisso CoD ran in windows before02:01
campbchyes02:01
campbchand still does02:01
letalisok02:01
campbchin a laptop right next to this one02:01
letalisim talking about the machine in question02:01
Sannevipercat: you're welcome, and good luck :)02:01
letalislinux games can be very pecular as to what kinds of hardware they run in02:01
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campbchack02:03
campbchwell02:03
campbchi don't know :(02:03
campbchhow do i check?02:03
campbchbecause the game definately ran in windows02:03
JackPhilwhen i quit the kde session (with xgl), it always crash02:03
letalisthe machine that you now have linux on had windows on it before right?02:03
letalisim not trying to be an ass, just merely trying to assess the situation :)02:04
JackPhilis the ubuntu kernel compiled with CONFIG_REGPARM=y?02:04
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h3sp4wnJackPhil: grep CONFIG_REGPARM /boot/linux-image-`uname -r`02:05
h3sp4wnJackPhil: No that is not what it is but the config is in /boot02:06
SanneJackPhil: you might be able to find out by looking at /boot/config-your-kernel-version02:06
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Sanneh3sp4wn: :)02:06
spiderwormhttp://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=10903.0 <---- anyone able to help me keep the screen going black during certain session types?02:06
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dude_jucato: help02:07
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JackPhili want try oss because the alsa can't drive my sound card02:11
JackPhilhow to temporarlly disable alsa?02:13
JackPhili try to remove alsa-base, the snd modules is still loaded02:13
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siliticxstupid thing02:14
siliticxmy sound decided to stop working yet again.02:14
siliticx!ati02:14
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:14
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inteliwasphow do i disable control of my laptop buttons? i am going to use some other software02:15
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letalislol try to help someone and they flood themselves off of irc with dmesg output.02:18
letalisgood lord.02:18
letalis:)02:18
letaliscampbch: as a rule, dont paste that much text to irc. it dislikes it02:18
letalis:)02:18
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campbchyep :P02:19
campbchit didnt seem like so much when i grabbed it02:19
inteliwaspanyone know what i am talking about?02:19
siliticxanyone knows if an audigy 2 zs needs drivers or something02:19
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letalisif you look through that stuff, you should see where the kernel probed the devices on the system02:19
letalisone will be the video card02:19
letalisprobably the chipset02:19
campbch:o02:20
campbchi don't understand.02:20
letalisactually chipset is important.02:20
campbchit's the 915/910gm/gms somethingorother from intel?02:20
letalisif you know that much, thats what youre looking for in the dmesg output02:21
letalisafter you know exactly what it is then you can start the howto hunt on it02:21
letalisbrb smoke02:21
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Sannesiliticx: you can find the name of the module for your sound card here: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/02:23
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campbchwhere is xorg.conf located/02:25
campbch?02:25
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campbch!xorg02:25
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:25
ash211 /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:25
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campbchok, im using an intel i810ish graphics chipset, as it is set in xorg.conf, so i dont see what the problem is.02:28
dtorreshey guys maybe one of you can help me i downloaded a package gpar2 to be exact after trying to install some of the dependecies the package is not broken. however i can unistall nor reinstall it and its not allowing me to do anying with apt-get its complaining about the package being broken02:28
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Hawkwinddtorres: sudo apt-get -f install02:30
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dtorrestried that02:30
dtorresE: The package gpar2 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it02:31
dtorresthats the error i get02:31
jobless_hey i need help configuring wireless networks in kubuntu!02:31
jobless_i see the networks but i am unable to connect ..! :(02:31
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larson9999got the wireless working!  now to get the ethernet card working so this can be a gateway02:33
xsachaethernet card doesn't 'just work'? :(02:33
dtorres> dpkg: error processing gpar2 (--remove):02:33
dtorres>  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should02:33
dtorres>  reinstall it before attempting a removal.02:33
dtorres> Errors were encountered while processing:02:33
dtorres>  gpar202:33
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jobless_larson9999 i am having problem with wireless can you help? it seems that u solved the problem!02:33
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digivore!chmod02:33
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jobless_!botsnack02:34
ubotuYum!02:34
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martinyhola02:35
digivoreif i do 'chmod +x kate'   will i always run kate as su when i just type 'kate'02:35
dtorresnevermind found something on the forums02:35
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ltersdigivore: no02:35
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larson9999jobless_: i don't know.  i didn't really do much.  just downloaded and exctracted the windows driver.  and then i followed the ndis wrapper instructions on the unofficial ubuntu edgy guide02:36
ltersdigivore: just "kate" will run as the current user.02:36
jobless_larson9999 i can get the card to work .. but i am unable to connect to my school network!!02:36
digivorehow can i run it as su just by clicking on the icon?02:36
Hawkwinddigivore: Why would you want to ?02:37
ltersdigivore: change your icon properties to do kdesu kate for the command02:37
digivoreif i just type kate, i can't save.02:37
Hawkwinddigivore: You could edit the executable of the icon, but that is not recommended whatsoever02:37
Hawkwinddigivore: So do kdesu kate02:37
larson9999jobless_ all i had to do was to set it to start on startup and then reboot and it worked fine02:37
Hawkwinddigivore: There is a reason it's done that way02:37
digivorethanks, i'll try that.02:38
Hawkwinddigivore: You don't want to always run kate as sudo/kdesu as it can and will cause problems02:38
digivoreit will cause problems??02:38
digivorewhats the harm?02:38
Hawkwinddigivore: You don't want to edit everything as root user.  That's a very dangerous practice02:38
ltersdigivore: any file you create/save with kdesu kate will not be available to the regular user either.02:39
jobless_larson9999 ohh .. the problem i have is that i can connect to my home network that is secured using wep. but i was not able to connect to an unsecured network at school02:39
digivorekdesu ,   what rights will that give me?02:39
Hawkwinddigivore: It will force all files to have root permissions, bad bad idea02:39
larson9999jobless: i'm connecting to an unsecured hotel connection :)02:39
digivorei am the only user on this system02:39
Hawkwinddigivore: You can and will break your system if you get into such a bad habit/practice02:39
campbchnice.02:40
Hawkwinddigivore: So what.  You don't want everything to have root permissions when there are things that the regular user needs to have permission to02:40
digivorewell i can't save any files when i jsut type kate.   so i'm going to use 'kdesu kate'02:40
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jobless_hmm .. which package are u using to do that? is it the wireless lan manger or the network setup under system settings?02:40
digivoreor should i be able to change my account permissions to let me save02:41
jobless_hmm .. which package are u using to do that? is it the wireless lan manger or the network setup under system settings? larson999902:41
Hawkwinddigivore: Like we told you, then type kdesu kate when you need to edit a file as root user02:41
Hawkwinddigivore: No need for that02:41
siliticxwell looks like i wont be toying with ati graphics ..sigh02:41
Hawkwinddigivore: If the file has root permissions, then kdesu kate is what you want.  If it has regular user permissions, then kate is what you want02:41
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digivoreokok,  probably i've only been trying to edit system files that have root permissions...02:42
digivorei see.  i will use kdesu kate  wisely,02:42
siliticxeither its my sound that doesnt work02:43
siliticxor its my drivers02:43
siliticxsigh02:43
larson9999jobless: i just left the secure type settings blank in the network config gui02:43
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larson9999jobless_: i just left the secure type settings blank in the network config gui02:43
max_hi. when you rip somthing with the KAudioCreator, where does it put it?02:43
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max_hi. when you rip somthing with the KAudioCreator, where does it put it?02:45
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siliticxguys, whats the command to like.. reload your list of packages with apt-get02:48
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OODsudo apt-get update02:48
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martinynecesito saber como instalar NEED FOR SPEED CARBON  con cedega02:50
campbchWOAH habla espanol02:50
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siliticx!beryl02:51
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.02:51
campbchhay foros para hispanohablantes, podran ayudarte....02:51
siliticxquestion : whats the file with all your repositories?02:51
martinydime la direccion de los for hispano por fa02:53
Sanne!es02:54
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florghi. my kdeinit wants to load kooldock on login, even after i uninstalled kooldock. how can i configure kdeinit to omit that?02:56
venkatlarson9999 i am able to connect .. i just rebooted the system and it was fine ..!02:56
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larson9999venkat are you jobless_:02:57
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jobless_yes larson999902:57
jobless_forgot to change the nic02:57
larson9999jobless_: didn't i tell you i had to reboot?02:57
jobless_larson9999 and thats why i did that ..! thanks02:57
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larson9999jobless_: i wouldn't have thought you needed to either.  but that guide said to.  except for the easy ubuntu and automatix stuff, i think that guide is the best i've seen for a given distro02:59
jobless_larson9999 which guide?02:59
jobless_larson9999 can u give me the link?02:59
larson9999jobless:  the one that comes up when you search for 'unbuntu guide unofficial'02:59
larson9999err ubuntu03:00
jobless_larson9999 i got it03:01
jobless_http://ubuntuguide.org03:01
larson9999yep03:01
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Alter-Egowhat program do i use for a modem connection to the internet03:06
xsachaKPPP Internet Dial-Up Tool ?03:07
xsacha!kppp03:07
ubotukppp: modem dialer and ppp frontend for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 667 kB, installed size 3688 kB03:07
siliticx!beryl03:10
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siliticx!sources.list03:14
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu03:14
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jwsMight someone help me with an install problem?03:18
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actinicany compelling reasons Dapper ---> Edgy?03:24
dtorreshas anyone got gpar2 working on kubuntu?03:26
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kadihi03:32
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kadihi khirr03:33
khirrello03:34
khirr:D03:34
khirrall is ok in my OS :D03:34
khirrhow could i configure my webcam?03:34
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kadidon't know03:34
khirrokp03:34
kadisry03:34
whiz2I'm having troubles installing the Opera browser. Can someone help me get the installer to work?03:35
kadiyou have ubuntu?03:35
whiz2Kubuntu03:35
kadiis it an debian package03:36
whiz2Yes03:36
whiz2I double click it, and I get an error stating that something isn't in my path.03:36
whiz2"Error Ark - The utility is not in your PATH. Please install it or contact your system administrator."03:37
kadiyou don't have the rights???03:39
whiz2I'm the admin03:39
actinicright click on the downloaded opera file03:39
whiz2I'm the only one who has the erights03:39
kadidid you copy it to your folder?03:39
actinicin konqueror03:39
whiz2I copied the package to a created folder on my desktop03:39
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actinicthe package should be a deb file downloaded from the opera site03:40
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whiz2nevermind. It's installed now. Thank you actinic03:41
kadihm03:42
actinicnp, looks like you found the right click function :)03:42
larson9999linux rocks!03:42
kadilol03:42
frenristrue dat.03:42
whiz2Yes it does lol03:43
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frenriswhy when I launch konqueror from the start bar does it lack the side tabs for bookmarks and amarok?03:43
actinici hope all 279 logged in users don't talk at once :)03:44
kadiserver could be overloaded :-)03:44
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actinicmaybe we should try :)03:45
kadithink they are all sleeping03:45
kadi... doing ping pong03:46
kadiping03:46
kadipong03:46
kadiping03:46
kadipong03:46
frenrisping03:46
kadilool03:46
actinicding03:46
actiniclol03:46
frenrisdong03:46
actinicknock03:46
frenriskick?03:46
kadioutch03:46
frenrisknick*?03:46
frenrisdamn03:46
actinicknock, knock ..03:46
frenriswho's there?03:46
actinicbo03:46
kadiwho is there?03:46
frenrisI am there03:47
gnomefreakcan you guys please stop with the enter key03:47
kadiwho is you?03:47
frenrisyou is me03:47
actinicroses are red, violets are blue, i'm schizophrenic and so am I03:47
kadicrazy thinking about03:47
frenriswhat music you guys listening to?03:48
Aondomy own :P03:48
campbchping?03:48
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kadinot really03:48
gnomefreakguys stay on topic if you want to continue this please join #kubuntu-offtopic03:48
actinicmetallica ... you know, light stuff :)03:48
actinicsorry03:48
frenrisjust switched to KDE like yesterday from GNOME03:49
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frenrislike it way better03:49
esaymyou like?03:49
esaymcool03:49
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frenrisamarok is truly ftw03:49
esaymnever tried gnome lol03:49
frenristhe menus are better03:49
frenrislike the start bar03:49
frenrisbut the rest isn't that good03:49
gnomefreakthats still not really on topic guys03:49
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kadi<=changed mine03:49
esaymgnome to me looks like it tries to hide everything03:50
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kadibut it is not hiding03:50
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frenrisits just not there?03:50
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frenrisI dunno KDE seems so much more customizable to me03:50
Vipercati have just upgraded my dapper to edgy using the alternate cd but now i cant get a graphical inteface just command line03:51
Vipercati did reinstall xserver03:51
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Vipercatcan anyone help ?03:51
campbchi need to build a driver for my intel chip, since it's not working through the other one i got... how do i build it?03:51
campbchi have the source03:51
kadiapt-get install03:52
campbchit doesnt include an install shell file03:52
campbchNO03:52
campbchnot the apt-get03:52
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campbchthats not building03:52
khirrhow can i configure my cam?03:52
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gnomefreakVipercat: install xserver-xorg kubuntu-desktop xserver-xorg-video-all xorg03:52
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adam_hello03:52
Vipercatis that from root ?03:52
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campbchwhat is the general form for installing a graphics driver?03:52
kadisure03:52
ubuntu_Hello everyone03:52
campbchHello ubuntu_03:53
kadihi03:53
adam_I have a weird problem with adept...03:53
gnomefreakVipercat: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg xorg xserver-xorg-video-all kubuntu-desktop03:53
ubuntu_I'm just another windows user trying to break into the realm of Linux03:53
adam_I made something stupid , I guess03:53
kadi:)03:54
adam_I closed it, but it didn't closed properly03:54
adam_it is still running03:54
campbchanyone know? whats the quick 3 steps to build something?03:54
adam_and I cant kill it03:54
campbchits like automake, conf something and make all03:54
adam_it won't let me03:54
campbchbut i dont know exactly03:54
adam_can anybody tell me how to kill it?03:54
gnomefreakcampbch: ./configure && make && sudo make install03:54
kaditry a reboot03:55
campbchalright03:55
adam_ok, I might reboot it, then see if that helped, if not I'll be back :)03:55
kadignomefreak rocks03:55
gnomefreak!compile | campbch03:55
ubotucampbch: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)03:55
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campbchalright, thanks03:56
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kadithink i go back playing some stupid games in windows03:58
kadibye guys03:59
Vipercatthanks03:59
kadisry bye girls too03:59
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campbchthere is no configure and autoconf doesnt work04:00
campbchwhat isn't right about this?04:00
campbchi'm getting extremely frustrated.04:00
campbchmy card04:00
campbchcan play this game04:00
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campbchbut i am on my 3rd day of trying to get it installed, now it installed and working but the GAME is now telling me that the card is not good enough04:01
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campbchwhich is a load of bull04:01
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campbchso i need to get the REAL driver installed04:01
campbchbut it has no configure, and autoconf wont work, so i cant make because i have no input file and ive never done this before and it should be working!04:01
campbchwhy isnt anything working!?04:02
campbchi want it to WORK04:02
campbchcf  docbook  imake  Imakefile  makedepend  pswrap  util what is this?04:02
campbchthis ist he /config folder04:02
campbchbut what does it mean?04:02
campbch!imake04:02
gnomefreakcampbch: what are you trying to compile04:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about imake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:02
gnomefreaknot all apps have a ./configure file04:03
campbchit's the intel graphics chipset for the 9915gm and stuff04:03
campbch915*04:03
campbchbut i need to be sure i have a 100% fresh, official version so that this game will run04:03
campbchthis is absolutely the LAST thing i need to do to get it working, after 3 days of fiddling with everything04:03
gnomefreakcampbch: read the readme and the install files it might be as simple as a shell script04:03
gnomefreakcampbch: like nvidia binary drivers are .sh files and it runs the installer04:04
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dennisterhello everyone04:04
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gnomefreaki04:05
gnomefreakhi04:05
campbchwhy is this telling me04:05
campbchthat its the xorg somehting source?04:05
campbchi just downloaded the xorgrc source from the intel linux driver website, is this correct04:05
campbch?04:05
gnomefreakcampbch: i would need the full error but are you sure its not the kenrel source?04:05
campbchno04:05
campbchim not04:06
campbchim just following link04:06
gnomefreakcampbch: iirc you can get those drivers with apt-get04:06
campbchlinks after links after links04:06
campbchno04:06
campbchbecause those drivers need to be upgraded04:06
campbchaccording to the game04:06
dennistergood news and bad news: good=my tuner works with mplayer if i tune channel 3 in konsole, get great vid/audio04:06
campbchthat i just spent, again, 3 days installing04:06
campbchcampbch@stormbreaker:~/915driver/xc$ ls04:06
campbchBUILD      extras     LABEL     programs       registry  xf86Date.h04:06
campbchChangeLog  Imakefile  lib       README         RELNOTES04:06
campbchconfig     include    Makefile  README.crypto  util04:06
fumbalahHi, my wireless card will enable momentirly and then go back off04:06
campbchi have absolutely NO idea what i am doing04:07
dennisterbad=where i need some help with=another module in kcontrol/system services has gone missing04:07
gnomefreakcampbch: read the README file04:07
dennisterthe other day it was the display module; now its user management <argh>04:07
campbchi just said04:08
campbch...04:08
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dennister1st question: why is this happening so often with edgy? 2nd question: can someone help me restore the module pls?04:08
campbch  X11R6.8.1 is an Open Source version of the X Window System that04:08
campbch     supports many UNIX(R) and UNIX-like operating systems (such as04:08
campbch     Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and Solaris x86) on Intel and other04:08
campbch     platforms.  This version is compatible with X11R6.8 a04:08
campbchTHISis the readme04:08
campbchabsolutely not a WORD about installing04:08
campbchwhy does it say it's the xorg?04:09
campbchisnt that the windows manager/04:09
campbch?04:09
campbchwhy am i installing the x windows manager?04:09
campbchi just got this 30 seconds ago from the intel website, i mentioned this before! i dont understand any of this!04:09
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dennistercampbch: the x-window system (xorg) is what gives linux its graphical look04:11
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campbchi know04:11
gnomefreakcampbch: offhand i dont know i havent had to try them but i cant image it to be all that hard. this is the first time ive seen people have trouble with intel drivers04:11
gnomefreakbrb smoke04:11
campbchcall of duty says that my video card is lacking the necessary features, and that i should upgrade the drivers. also, opengl screensavers are bugged up to half a screen, so this is obviously a problem with either the configuration or the drivers04:12
campbchi already checked the configuration, so it must be the drivers04:12
campbchso i went to get the drivers, and they come as source04:12
campbchnow i need to compile the source04:13
campbchhowever, all documents say that what i have as the source is the X windows system04:13
campbchNOT the drivers04:13
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campbchwhy is it telling me this?04:13
dennisterand i need to get my user management module back :(04:13
campbch:o04:13
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dennisterhi DemonThing`04:13
dennisterhas anyone seen this pattern in edgy? key modules just disappearing?04:14
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dennisterhas anyone tried kde 4? is it better? or is the problem edgy?04:15
dennisterhmmm...quiet in here tonight04:16
dennister...brb...going to put the laundry in04:17
apokryphoskde 4 is really only for developers at the moment. Still in the porting stage04:17
campbchthis04:18
campbchis insane04:18
dennisterty apokryphos04:18
apokryphoscampbch: non-kde-related problems are often better asked in #ubuntu04:18
dennisterwould you know how to fix my missing module problem? reinstalling doesn't work04:18
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campbchill check it out04:19
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dennisterhi dragonfly7 :)04:20
dragonfly7is there a bash command to restart my sound system? (yay, I was recognized!)04:20
dennisterheheh...u could try alsa04:20
dennisteri find just typing the program name often works04:21
dennisterbut i'm sure this isn't always the case04:21
dragonfly7as in "killall alsa"?04:21
dennisterwell that would stop it, yes04:21
campbchafter 4349 lines of log file04:21
campbchit exits with Error 2.04:22
Alter-Egoif i ubuntu and dailup set on it, and i want to go to kubunt all i really need to do is "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" and everything will stay the same including connecting to the internet ?04:22
campbchWTFis error 2?04:22
campbchwhen you have 3 line output files, it tells me error 2?04:22
campbchhow am i supposed to know what that means?04:22
dennisterAlter-Ego: it should...i used that after i installed the text-only lamp server04:23
Alter-Egodennister: wow, i never thought about server first and kubuntu-desktop last.  i bet you have a lot less crud04:23
Alter-Egoer, krud04:23
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Alter-Ego:-)04:23
dennisterit came over the dhcp that was detected at installation04:23
dragonfly7I have this weird problem where my sound gets all crackly after it switches files its playing. Right now, I have the ctrl+alt+backspace to fix it. I hope to set up a keyboard shortcut to just restart the sound.04:23
Alter-Egodhcp via network or dailup ?04:24
dennisterAlter-Ego: actually, nooo04:24
dennisteri had dhcp from a cable modem and router...04:24
dragonfly7But alsa is not listed when I "ps -e" and killall alsa doesn't work.04:24
fumbalahcan anyone help me with my wireless issue? I need it for a conference in the morning04:24
dennisterit's just that i needed the server for mythtv...most people don't need the server, and it's much more complicated04:25
Alter-Egoya, i am wondering if changes in dialup would be affected with kubuntu-desktop04:25
frenrisJust converted from gnome, how does one update KDE stuff via GUI, like that orange button gnome had in the top right?04:25
dragonfly7fumbalah: what is the problem?04:25
dennisternope,...i really don't think so04:25
fumbalaheth1 enables momentairily and then goes back off04:25
fumbalahI've installed the drivers via ndiswrapper04:25
dennisterfrenris: u can use a package manager called adept, and download synaptic, too04:25
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dragonfly7Does the card enable, or the wireless connection?04:26
fumbalahThe card enables momentairily04:26
dragonfly7Hmm... What card is it?04:26
frenriskk ty04:27
fumbalahDell 1350 WLan, for an inspiron 600004:27
dennisterbrb...laundry is still calling...blasted cat!04:27
dragonfly7Do you have edgy?04:27
fumbalahyea04:28
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dragonfly7Try reinstalling ndiswrapper (http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu). I am just reading off of ubuntu forums...04:30
dennisteri'm back..04:31
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dragonfly7Hi dennister. How was that laundry?04:33
dennisterheheh...it will be les smelly in my bedroom now04:33
dennisterthe second any clothing falls to the floor my cat jumps at the opportunity to piss on it :(04:34
dennisterlovely, eh?04:34
hazard_I hate cats.04:34
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dragonfly7Oh yes, but now that I think about I also have to do laundry. :(04:34
dennisterif she wasn't so gorgeous, silky to the touch, and a present for my son, she would hav been dead years ago04:35
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dragonfly7So does anyone know how to restart the sound ... thing?04:36
dennisteranyway, back on topic: hazard_, u wouldn't have edgy, do u?04:36
hazard_the new one 6.10? no.04:36
Homerwhats some good P2P programs for Linux04:36
dragonfly7KTorrent is a good P2P.04:37
Homerfor small files04:37
Homerlike gnutella2/gnutella04:37
dennisterHomer: i use ktorrent, there's a limewire clone called frostwire04:37
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dennisterazureus is available on both windows and linux, but it's a pig on resources04:37
Skrot-Homer: There's valknut which uses the DirectConnect protocol04:37
hazard_sorry, I've been meaning to upgrade, but since 6.06 is working just fine for what I need, I see no pressing reason (especially now that its working)04:37
HomerI can't even get 6.10 to work04:38
dennisterif it's not broke, don't fix it04:38
hazard_Exactly.04:38
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dragonfly7I like 6.10's acceptance of multimedia buttons.04:38
hazard_And usually me and linux GUIs are on very poor terms, but right now my Dapper box is just fine.04:38
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dennisterwell edgy's been wonderful for my tuner...ivtv drivers were downloadable from the repos, and most people say building ivtv drivers is the hardest thing they've ever had to do04:39
dennisteri struggled horribly with the ivtv drivers in dapper04:39
dragonfly7Dennister: I Have heard you say that before. Do you have a macro for that or something?04:39
Homeryeah dapper works great04:39
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dennistera macro?04:40
Homerhopefully fiesty will work for me04:40
Homer!fiesty04:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fiesty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:40
dragonfly7Um... hotkey? A shortcut for saying something.04:40
hazard_is xdm the thing to use to launch X on startup?04:40
dennisterdragonfly7: i know i'm repeating myself, but there r new people new to me) here04:40
Homerxdm is a X Login Manager04:40
dennisterit depends on what u need, and what u've got04:40
Homer!xdm04:40
hazard_if I'm not using kde or gnome?04:40
ubotuxdm: X display manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.5-1 (edgy), package size 160 kB, installed size 756 kB04:40
dragonfly7Yeah, I am sure there are. I don't mind, I just found it funny.04:41
Homeryou can still use kdm/gdm04:41
Homerin fact they are muuuuch better04:41
Homerxdm is very simplistic04:41
dennisterheheheh...gonna sound like a broken record pretty soon i bet04:41
hazard_I like simple.04:41
hazard_Simple good.04:41
hazard_Me sleepy.04:41
Homeror you can simply use no login manager!04:42
Homertoo many choices in linux!04:42
dennisteri gotta get this module working again!!!04:42
hazard_Now that I've *FINALLY* gotten fluxbox (or whatever it is) to play nice with VPC6, I predict that in about 4 minutes, it will stop working completely.04:42
HomerI have a idea for xfree8604:42
Homerwhen you fuck your .conf file04:43
Homerit should automatically revert to a backup04:43
hazard_it stabs you in the face?04:43
Homerinstead of just no running04:43
hazard_aww....I wanted the face stabbing.04:43
Homercause it's fucking hard to fix an X server if you don't know what u doing04:43
Homerand even when you know what you doing04:43
Homerit fucking har04:43
hazard_I have a hard time getting them to work in the first place.04:43
hazard_Especially in virtual situations, where the 'hardware' dosen't actually exsist.04:44
dragonfly7I hate it when I break xorg.conf. The first time I did it I freaked out.04:44
hazard_(which means it typically behaves very strangely to 'safe' methods of doing things)04:44
dennisteryeah, i reinstalled the OS04:44
Homeryou don't really have to be alot of users will/do04:44
Homerbut*04:45
Homeryou don't really have to but alot of users will/do04:45
dennisternow i'm trying to find out how to get rid of this bloody wacom stuff in it04:45
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Homerif xorg breaks -> OS breaks to most users04:45
Homerthat why it should break so much lol04:45
hazard_because me and Xorg have a..shady...history, I usually just don't run it.04:45
Homeror be so easy to break04:45
Homerjust imo of course04:45
hazard_Most of my linux boxes are headless anyway.04:45
dennisteri can't kwrite a file in konsole without getting errors that refers to wacom...and i don't have a wacom tablet or tablet pc04:45
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hazard_I suppose I should figure out what exactly it was that I did that made X11 and VPC6 work together.04:47
Homerdapper worked for me out of the box04:47
khirrhow can i configur emi web cam -.-04:47
Homeredgy won't even get past initd04:47
hazard_Since hours of thoughtful trying previously got me nowhere, but now, in my tired logicless state, it now somehow works.04:47
Homerit just goes BOOM! and screen goes black (on live cd!) :(04:47
hazard_Oh, dapper works fine for me on a REAL machine.04:48
hazard_But NOTHING linuxy-/wGUI works ATALL/EASILY under virtual PC04:48
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dragonfly7Homer: It did that for me too. Have you tried the text-based installer?04:48
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Homerdragonfly7: how will that help? I'm just going to be install a broken system!04:49
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knappI am having a problem with Konversation, the Server List pops up when I open it, has no buttons, and will not close.04:49
Homerit's not finishing even init, there are some bad drivers in edgy that my computer isn't liking04:50
HomerI'm fine with dapper, I'll just hope fiesty fixes the issue :(04:50
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dragonfly7Hmmm. Maybe you have an old beta or RC? At any rate, the upgrade probably isn't worth the trouble.04:51
Homerno full version04:51
Homersame problem with ubuntu and kubuntu04:51
dragonfly7Setting up wireless with WEP was harder in Edgy.04:51
Homerdapper is doing what I want it to do04:52
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fumbalahdragonfly7: Reinstalled ndiswrapper and reinstalled the drivers, now it just doesnt show up at all anymore04:52
Th3_Cr0up13Ryeay guys04:53
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dennisterhi Th3_Cr0up13R04:54
knappAnyone have any ideas?04:54
Th3_Cr0up13Rcan anyone help coz my hands seem a little tight , my system does recognise my root password if application needs it04:54
dennisterno, sorry knapp04:54
Th3_Cr0up13Rbut if its in terminal it doesnt04:54
Th3_Cr0up13Rhi dennister04:55
Th3_Cr0up13Rany ideas what could be done , i havent been on linux in years now and theres not alot i remember04:55
dragonfly7fumbalah: wow. That didn't work. I am sorry.04:55
dragonfly7Try looking at these: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=962747404:56
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hazard_I remember getting a wireless card working in lunix exactly once.04:58
hazard_I haven't touched it since, and it still works because of it.04:58
dennisteri'm afraid i'm not much help to many, as i'm still a noob04:58
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dennisteri hold people's hands, mostly, and direct them to the more senior people04:59
dragonfly7psh. If dennister is a n00b I am an abacus user.05:00
dennisterhey, back in July i'd never even _seen_ a linux installation05:00
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dennisterit's quite the adventure...and a challenge05:01
hazard_I've been aware of linux for years.05:02
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hazard_ever since I tried to install an old version of suse.05:02
hazard_which I got working a few times, then promptly broke xwindows05:02
dragonfly7I think I started somewhere in August, since windows was irriating me and I had just got DSL.05:02
dennistertrying to install nfs now, hopefully it'll allow myth to write to the xfs drive...it's locked by nfs and and i didn't even have nfs installed05:02
dennistersince my user management module is gone i can't make myth a user with access to the parition05:03
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hazard_Myth is a game in my mind.05:03
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dennistermicroshaft wasn't just irritating me; wga notify was driving me insane with anger05:04
BluesKajbach05:04
Th3_Cr0up13Rhehe i just cracked one of those05:04
dennisteryeah...we had the game way back when05:04
dennisterone of 'those'?05:04
Th3_Cr0up13Rdennister: i just got rid of that wga notify thing05:04
Th3_Cr0up13R10 min ago from a friends computer05:05
Th3_Cr0up13Rhe was so irritated he paid me to get rid of it05:05
Th3_Cr0up13Rheheh05:05
dennisteryeah, so did i, but ms was making noises about making it absolutely mandatory to have it installed -- threatening lockout if u didn't05:05
Th3_Cr0up13Rhehe it just takes 5 minutes to get rid of it05:06
Th3_Cr0up13Ryou can install it if it wants to and then disable it05:06
Th3_Cr0up13Rthen you done05:06
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Th3_Cr0up13Rnever comes back again05:06
hazard_is it a bad idea to have stable and unstable source lists?05:06
dennisterthing is, they did finally back down, and I still got locked out of a 2.5 year old XP machine cause xp erroneously thought one of the drives had "unrecoverable errors"05:06
timhow do I install XGL on kubuntu?05:06
Th3_Cr0up13Rhehe that sounds like windows05:06
hazard_You explode. (in other words, I'm tired and have no idea)05:07
dennistertook the drive out, it was perfect, but i still had to wipe windows clean just because it couldn't find the right licence info05:07
dennisterjust because windoze couldn't find it, doesn't mean it's not there05:07
Th3_Cr0up13Rsound like fun, especially when you gotta do work and you got deadlines05:07
BluesKajdennister, need licence validation ? ...I know a guy ...05:08
Th3_Cr0up13Rdennister:  i got one of those boxes where you take you normal hardrive and you make it perfectly workable05:08
BluesKaj:)05:08
Th3_Cr0up13Routside hdd05:08
hazard_I had a friend who had an external 320g drive, which came unplugged inside the case, which caused some kind of derranged NTFS MFT curroption, which managed to make it so windows didn't have any clue what was going on the drive.05:08
timxgl anybody?05:08
dennisteri need to find a way around my win xp mce problem: that kept crashing, screwed the bios completely, and when i tried to reinstall it, i found out th disc was physically cracked05:08
hazard_It took me forever to find a windows utility to IGNORE the MFT and scan for lost files.05:08
BluesKajuhoh05:08
Th3_Cr0up13Roops, i dont think there is a lot you can do05:09
hazard_(because apparently NTFS is to advanced to need such a thing)05:09
dennister<--has been waiting over a month for ms to send a replacement disk...their stories keep changing05:09
Th3_Cr0up13Rif it is hardware05:09
hazard_Oh, I eventually got all his stuff off for him, but I had to wedge 320G of stuff into my fileserver.05:09
dennisterBluesKaj: i have registered, non-pirated coa's, i shouldn't have to wait months for a replacement disk05:10
hazard_Since there wasn't anything I could do to FIX the NTFS structures (apparently NTFS is to 'advanced' to need utilitites for that either)05:10
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BluesKajright05:10
dennisterthey could just send me a bloody iso file, and i could use my own product key\05:10
Th3_Cr0up13Rlooks like its too advanced to need a hard drive too05:10
dennisterok...ms rant is over :)05:11
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dennisterwb Mythbusters05:12
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dennisterbrb...gotta go p...and then laundry switch05:12
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dragonfly7*idles05:22
timis there anyway to get xgl on an ati card in 6.10?05:22
timall the searches I am doing give me stuf on ubuntu with gnome05:22
tim:-(05:22
dragonfly7How do you do the "is doing something" command in IRC?05:22
dragonfly7tim: I found a walkthrough once, let me look.05:22
Aondotim  you should take a look at beryl. is not that gnome demanding05:23
timkk, thank you dragonfly and aondo05:23
dragonfly7Yeah, look at this: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/XGL05:23
timalso, does fglrx mean I have 3d support05:24
BluesKajyup05:24
timand would that dapper guide05:24
timapply to edgy05:24
timI don't see why it wouldn't05:24
timbut just checking05:24
Aondojust take a look at the overall wiki site05:24
Aondoalot of info05:25
timyeah05:25
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dragonfly7I got beryl working with that walkthrough on 6.10 kde.05:26
dennistertim...there's another one, 2, hold on05:26
timkk05:26
dragonfly7So yes, it should work. Unfortunatly, my graphics card overheats easily, so I had to uninstall it.05:26
timthank you for all the help btw aondo, dennister, and dragonfly05:26
timI am really new to the linux scene05:26
tim:-/05:26
Aondo:)05:27
dennisterhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI05:27
timstarted off installing gentoo, ended up with kubuntu05:27
timkk05:27
timthanks for the link dennister05:27
dennister^^ that one has no relation to beryl05:27
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dennisterand it's for edgy05:28
dragonfly7The link I sent worked for Kubuntu 6.10.05:28
timis no relation to berly a good thing05:28
timyeah05:28
timI saw that05:28
dragonfly7And it has beryl.05:28
dragonfly7Beryl is better I think.05:28
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dennisterhi DaSkreech05:29
timwhat is the difference between beryl and xgl05:29
DaSkreechdennister: Hello :)05:29
DaSkreechtim: Xgl is the Windowing server05:29
DaSkreechBeryl is the compositing manager05:29
DaSkreechdennister: How are you?05:29
DaSkreechhi nikkiana05:29
timdaskreech, you are talking to a moron :-)05:29
nikkianahi Danker05:29
timI have no idea what that mean05:29
nikkianaerr DaSkreech05:29
timmeans*05:29
dennisteri'm having probs, as per usual...lol05:29
nikkianastupid tab autocomplete05:30
dragonfly7tim: Use my link. It should work fine.05:30
dennisternow my user management module in system services/kcontrol is gone05:30
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dennisterthe second time in a few days that i've seen this error...last time the module was display05:31
fumbalahI keep getting ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument05:31
fumbalahWhen i modprobe05:31
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timkk05:31
dennisterdragonfly7: u haven't seen this pattern in edgy, have u?05:32
timthanks dragonfl05:32
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dragonfly7dennister: No, Edgy is working great for me.05:32
dennisterand this bloody wacom tablet error...I even commented out all its stuff in xorg.conf, removed its demon from system services, and i still get it's errors05:33
dragonfly7My laptop's trackpad was doing that too, so I took apart the laptop and unplugged it from the motherboard.05:34
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dennisteri don't even have a tablet or tablet pc...lol05:35
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dennister(or actually i do, but it was never hooked up to this system, ever)05:35
DaSkreechnikkiana: Heehee What Client are you using?05:35
nikkianaDaSkreech: Xchat05:36
DaSkreechok :) It has round robin matching?05:36
DaSkreechdennister: Yeah that Wacom thing has had many a torch and pitchfork held against it05:36
nikkianait has what?05:36
DaSkreechI've never seen modules disappear in System settings though05:37
dennistertorch and pitchfork? i don't understand05:37
hfhfanyone here play warsow?05:37
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DaSkreechnikkiana: When you press tab it autocompletes the first name that matches then you press tab again to get the next one that matches etc until it comes full circle05:37
DaSkreechI like Gaim and Konversation's way of doing tab complete05:38
DaSkreechdennister: You need to watch some Frankenstien movies :)05:38
dennisteri guess i should say it disappeared, the error is: "the module <whatever> can not be loaded. Diagnostics...<neither apply?05:38
nikkiananikkiana: yeah... though usually you have to type in the first two letters.05:38
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nikkianaerr why did i say that to myeslf?05:38
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DaSkreechMe too05:38
dennisterhahah05:38
dragonfly7What time zones are you all obeying currently?05:39
dennisteromg...it's 1:40 am, eastern canada time zone, and i still need to make a cheesecake-apple tart05:39
hazard_oooook.....05:40
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dragonfly79:40 pm in the slightly-less-evil USA.05:40
hazard_11:40 here (USA)05:40
dennister...gtg guys...system will have to wait05:40
DaSkreechWed Nov  8 23:44:02 EST 200605:40
dragonfly7Bye dennister.05:40
DaSkreechHeehee05:40
DaSkreechdennister: See ya05:40
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dennisterslightly-less-evil? u american imperialists are "the evil empire" :)05:41
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dennisterlol...couldn't resist05:41
hazard_I'm not evil.05:41
hazard_I'm just insane.05:41
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DaSkreechYou are a hazard :)05:41
hazard_=P05:41
dennisterwell, my competitive spirit has been awakened...I'm almost certifiable hazard_05:42
dennisterwhere are those meds.........05:42
dragonfly7Yes, but now we are less evil. We have a democratic house and proably senate.05:42
dragonfly7But I agree, we still hold the title of most evilist.05:42
dennisterahhhh, i see, and now i can nod and agree with u;;;it's the republicans who are truly evil05:43
hazard_I'm confused, by all these pronouns, who's from where?05:43
DaSkreechI'm from the most evil place in the world05:43
DaSkreech Stingray lagoon05:43
hazard_?05:43
hazard_?????????05:43
DaSkreechYou think we are safe and then Boom!05:44
dennisterbut...gtg...the cheesecake is calling05:44
DaSkreechHa ha :)05:44
dennisterg'nite05:44
hazard_lol05:44
Alter-Egoin kubuntu, i want to see what percentage of space i have used and what is avaialbe for each partition from a command line, how ?05:44
hazard_df -h05:44
DaSkreechok How do I get in contact with a maintainer?05:44
DaSkreechAlter-Ego: df05:44
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hazard_or just call mount /w no options05:44
DaSkreechdash H05:44
hazard_You do the chicken dance?05:45
timdragonfly05:45
timwhen it says05:46
timIn KDE (Kubuntu), you can add a simple script to the "~/.kde/Autostart/" directory that activates those commands:05:46
timhow do I do that05:46
timnano ....05:46
xsachanano ~/.kde/Autostart/scriptname.sh05:46
timthansk xsacha05:46
hazard_AHHH!!! mayonase on laptop!!! eeee!! TRACKPAD TOO!!!!05:47
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dragonfly7xsancha: thanks for covering it.05:48
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dragonfly7hazard: smooth.05:48
hazard_yeruioshtjsrtjihjgghk05:48
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hazard_oops, ok, I think I got it (mostrly)05:48
Alter-Egoi am trying to rescue data from one drive to another, i need to copy everything from one partition on one drive to another partition on another drive using a command line05:48
hazard_now its all not-clean feeling05:48
hazard_sigh....05:49
Alter-Egohow do i began copying ?  cp *.* /dev/hda2 ?05:49
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hazard_I suppose the 'clean ness' of having the tracpad replaced had to wear off sooner or later05:49
hazard_do you want an image of the drive or jsut all the files in some folder; and is it mountable?05:50
hazard_On second thought, while I'm very much capable of helping you (and have lotsa experince with that), in my current state I'd probably end up helping you blow up your computer somehow.05:51
Alter-Egoi just want to copy the files from one partition to another05:51
Alter-Egolater i will image the drive and try to recover it05:51
DaSkreechmount it05:51
hazard_can you mount it now?05:51
Alter-Egousing dd, but right now, i have it mounted and just want to copy the files over05:51
hazard_ok05:51
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Alter-Ego13g --> two 10g partitions, i think i should be able to just cp correct?05:52
hazard_cp -rv /path/to/mount/* /path/to/destination05:52
DaSkreechIf you got space yeah05:52
hazard_is the 13 full?05:52
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Alter-Ego10 is empty, i am copying 13 g05:52
timdragonfly05:53
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hazard_but...but....13>10!05:53
Alter-Egobut i have two 10 gig partitions05:53
timsorry to keep bothering you05:53
tim:-/05:53
dragonfly7tim: I wasn't aware that you were. Its fine.05:53
sakihow can I install the i386 image on my system again?05:53
DaSkreechAlter-Ego: copy the two biggest and the two most important directories first05:53
sakier...05:53
DaSkreech then copy everythign else to the other drive05:54
sakinot again but along side my AMD64 install05:54
linlinanyone in or near miami FL ?05:54
DaSkreechI'm near05:54
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DaSkreechI'm like three countries away05:54
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timlol, i followed that guide exactly, but when I reboot, and chose xgl as the session type05:54
Alter-Egothx guys05:54
timxgll.sh - Kate came up when i got in05:54
aiosis it safe to delete the mounted drive icons that ubuntu sets on the desktop when installing?05:54
tim:-(05:54
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sakitim are you running 64-bit?05:54
timnope05:55
sakihrm05:55
DaSkreechaios: Where are they pointing to?05:55
dragonfly7So it doesn't work? maybe you skipped one of the steps.05:55
DaSkreechHi saki05:55
sakiheya DaSkreech05:55
hazard_'nioght05:55
sakitim do you have nvidia or ati?05:55
timati05:55
aiosDaSkreech: the other partitions .. its just that they don't look like links to me, and don't show up with ls .. i dont know what that means05:55
sakiok do you have the open source 'radeon' drivers?05:56
timnope05:56
dragonfly7tim: try repeating every step. You probably skipped something.05:56
sakiyou need them05:56
DaSkreechaios: what happens when you click on them?05:56
linlinDaSkreech how long would it take you to drive to miami? ;)05:56
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aiosDaSkreech: opens the file browser05:56
DaSkreechlinlin: I would suspect that I could be there by tuesday05:56
DaSkreechaios: When you right click do you get an eject or unmount option?05:57
aiosDaSkreech: yep05:57
linlinlol05:57
linlini thought that said counties05:57
linlinnot countries05:57
DaSkreechaios: do that then :-)05:57
timI need the open source ati drivers to make it work05:57
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aiosDaSkreech:  ... ? eee, no05:57
Alter-Egok, i need to relabel the bad partition to something else beside /home05:58
aiosDaSkreech: i dont want to unmount the partitions, i just dont want to see the icons on the desktop05:58
timbrb05:58
dragonfly7alos: then you should be able to change the types of icons that display.05:58
sakiso any help with installing the i386 system to work along side my AMD64 system?05:58
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digivore!kde05:59
ubotuKDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE05:59
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digivorehow do i find out which version of kde i have?05:59
DaSkreechlinlin: You locked in a room or something?05:59
siliticx!beryl05:59
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.05:59
aiosdragonfly7: that would be a good enough hack, but there's no 'noicon' icon ..05:59
dragonfly7Just a second...06:00
DaSkreechaios: What are you worried about happening?06:00
BluDog_Anchoritehas anyone noticed alot of video related freezes/crashes with mplayer, firefox, or games lately?06:00
BluDog_Anchoriteare the nvidia drivers getting buggier, or is it just me06:00
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siliticxmy god that beryl is laggy06:00
aiosDaSkreech: .. anything else then just the icons deleting. it should be trivial, i just don't understand why they behave so differently06:01
aiosDaSkreech: in what circumstance does a file not appear with ls -a ?06:01
DaSkreechBehave ... differently?06:01
dragonfly7alos: Right click on the desktop> properties>behavior>device icons06:02
aiosDaSkreech: link files say they are link files in the properties menu, and they show up with ls -a like any other file. these two on my desktop dont06:02
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DaSkreechAh06:02
siliticxis there a way to tell every single app that double clicking the title bar = maximize ?06:02
dragonfly7sliticx: yes. It should be in the window behavior section of the display settings.06:03
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timso I need fglrx won't work with beryl06:04
timso fglrx wont work*06:04
sakiyea06:04
sakiyou need to get the DRI drivers06:04
dragonfly7tim: I am sorry, I really don't know what to tell you. maybe saki?06:04
aiosdragonfly7: thanks06:04
dragonfly7aios: Is that what you were looking for?06:05
sakitim: Just remove the fglrx drivers and then install the DRI ones06:05
timkk06:05
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aiosdragonfly7: probably. you gave me a good clue of how to fix it. now i just have to find the equivalent under gnome ;)06:06
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DaSkreechYo can I move konqueror tabs around?06:06
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Pensa`MIAI set my monitor to turn off after 30 minutes, but all it does is give a black screen, but still turned on06:06
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Pensa`MIAany ideas?06:06
dragonfly7aios: Oh, sorry, I presumed you were using KDE.06:07
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timis there a simple way to remove fglrx and install dri06:08
dragonfly7Have you tried using Adept Package Manager?06:09
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aiosdragonfly7: i didnt expect otherwise, i'm in #kubuntu after all :) i've been asking this question for days in #ubuntu and noone answers ... the support on the biggest channel is the worst i've seen on freenode so far06:09
DaSkreechHa ha You haven't been hanging out on freenode long?06:09
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knappAnyone familiar with this error: ""checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths"" ?06:10
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phubeonegot a question for everyone, i have a nvidia 7800gs agp card06:10
timadept finds fglrx06:10
timbut i dont see dri06:10
dragonfly7aios: In #ubuntu, you are lucky if your question is moving slow enough to read before it leaves the screen.06:10
aiosDaSkreech: about 2 years now..06:10
phubeonei'm trying to install the new nvidia drivers and in the xorg.conf it shows for the BUSID PCI: 1:0:006:11
noxxlewhat is the best way to burn kbuntu 6.10 with k3b to ensure best quality and no corruptioN? im guessing doa mode at 4x?06:11
noxxleor not?06:11
DaSkreechYeah I always laugh at how much of Kubuntu's traffic is people coming and going and soaking up the silence06:11
sakitim dri isn't a package06:11
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aiosdragonfly7: problem there is that almost everyone else is as new to ubuntu as i am. they probably get the link from the wiki or something06:11
saki!i38606:11
DaSkreechnoxxle: Good guess06:11
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i386 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:11
asgardhi guys06:11
timso how do I get it06:12
noxxlehow long does it take you guys from power on to a fully booted up desktop?06:12
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tim:-(06:12
sakican anyone post all of the i386 repositories?06:12
noxxleim at 1:10 right now, seems slow06:12
noxxledapper ubuntu was like 50s06:12
sakifor edgy06:12
carlosjust google it06:12
noxxlewho?06:13
asgardim trying to install vmware workstation but evrytime i run the vmware-install.pl file in consol it says command link not found ??? can anyone help me ?06:13
carlossaki06:13
DaSkreechcan I move the tabs around in Konqueror?06:13
sakicarlos its not pulling up anything06:13
BluDog_Anchoriteshould be able to DaSkreech06:13
DaSkreechand why the <COC law upheld here> does it keep switching the hotkeys?06:13
BluDog_Anchoritelast time i tried06:13
DaSkreechBluDog_Anchorite: how?06:14
BluDog_Anchoriteone sec.  lemme walk over to the box06:14
BluDog_Anchoritei am working, so i appologize if i get pulled away06:14
DaSkreechBluDog_Anchorite: Thanks I know how that is06:14
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Jaseyhey. in the Configure Konqueror panel when configuring konqueror, i dont see an entry for Plugins =\ how do i get it there! thanks in advance06:15
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osirisDaSkreech, drag the tab you want to move, to where you want it moved, and it will open in a new tab there, or take over the tab you drag it to06:17
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asgardanyone no the problem ?06:17
osirisdoes that make sense ?06:17
osirisJasey, in the address bar for konq.  type about:plugins06:17
asgardthanx anyways06:18
Jaseya non interactive page ...06:18
Jaseywhat now?06:18
BluDog_Anchoriteit shows the ones installed06:18
Jaseythats not what i wanted06:18
BluDog_Anchoritewhat are you trying to make it DO06:18
dragonfly7I don't know my boot time, but I would guess around two minutes. I have an old laptop.06:18
Jaseymanage plugins06:18
noxxlewhy would edgy take me 15s longer to reach the desktop than dapper???06:18
Jaseyafter all, i want to configure the plugins with a configuration panel. not look at them =\06:19
noxxlehas anyone tried network-manager-kde with edgy?06:19
BluDog_AnchoriteJasey: in settings/configure konq.  there is a button in the left pane for plugins06:19
Jaseyno there isnt06:19
BluDog_Anchoriteits about 3rd from the bottom06:19
Jaseythats my problem06:19
siliticxoooooooooooooooooook06:19
siliticxi just put a theme in emerald06:20
BluDog_AnchoriteJasey: what version of konq06:20
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siliticxnow not a single window has a frickin title bar06:20
DaSkreechJasey: try Settings -> Manage Extensions -> Tools06:20
Jasey3.5.506:20
Jaseyok06:20
BluDog_Anchoriteand im on 3.5.306:20
siliticx!beryl06:20
ubotuberyl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.06:20
Jaseyno thats not quite what im looking for06:20
noxxleberyl v. compiz?06:20
Jaseyberyl = new and more plugins. compiz = moer stable06:21
noxxleis it true that both of them clock your processor way up?06:21
noxxleand eat battery life?06:21
carloshow can i install macromedia flash in Kubuntu Dapper x64?06:21
dragonfly7beryl = cool logo.06:21
siliticxnot really made for a laptop06:21
siliticxi like beryl until now.06:21
noxxleso it DOES eat battery life06:21
siliticxi cant move or close anything ;P06:21
BluDog_AnchoriteJasey: im afraid i cant help you then06:22
BluDog_Anchoriteim sorry06:22
dragonfly7siliticx: just use regular KDE when you are mobil.06:22
Jaseythats alright. thanks anyway :)06:22
siliticxyeah, thats what im saying06:22
noxxleall of the how tos i see for beryl say you gotta use ubuntu, will it work for kubuntu?06:22
siliticxbut right now.. i just want my titale bar back06:23
Jaseyi have a feeling im missing a package or something strange06:23
Jaseyit will work for kubuntu, yes06:23
Jaseyi had to working on xubuntu06:23
siliticxit worked great until now06:23
Jaseyas well06:23
siliticxas long as u got aiglx, which is in edgy06:23
BluDog_AnchoriteJasey: sudo apt-get konqueror-plugins ?06:23
Jaseyim sure i have that06:23
Jaseyi might double check06:23
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noxxledoes it squeak when you minimize ans maximize windows?06:24
noxxleyour graphics card06:24
BluDog_Anchoriteno, mine starts on fire06:24
noxxlemy laptop squeaked when i used it with ubuntu06:25
BluDog_Anchoriteor at least it happens when i  play ut2k406:25
BluDog_Anchoritefriggin game locks my box after 2 maps06:25
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BluDog_Anchoriteidk.  think the old nvidia is givin up the ghost06:25
Jaseyahhh06:25
Jaseykonqueror-nsplugins is what i was missing06:25
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BluDog_Anchoritenice work Jasey06:26
siliticxcan. anyone. help.06:26
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BluDog_Anchoritesiliticx: what exactly is the issue06:26
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siliticxi dont have a bar on any single window06:27
siliticxthe bar with the title, X, max, shade and etc06:27
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siliticxi changed beryl's engline in emerald and then poof, nothing06:27
BluDog_Anchoritetry alt+right clicking on the window06:27
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siliticxnope nothing06:27
BluDog_Anchoriteno list of minimize/maximize, etc.. ?06:28
siliticxnot even06:28
BluDog_Anchoritecan you remove the theme ?06:28
siliticxoh, got it, but still06:28
siliticxhaving no bar is kinda anoying06:28
BluDog_Anchoriteit most likely is the fault of the theme06:28
BluDog_Anchoriteare you SURE that theme HAS menu/window borders and bars ?06:29
siliticxeven if i change the engine to what i was before, its not coming back06:29
digivorewhy can't i view my root files in konqueror?  i used to be able to...?  i can only see my home dir...06:29
siliticxall 6 of em = nothing now06:29
dragonfly7ok, off to bed. bye all.06:30
BluDog_Anchoritesiliticx: and this is beryl correct ?06:30
siliticxyep06:30
BluDog_Anchoritehmm. i wouldnt know.  never played wtih beryl, but i might se if i can dig up some info when im off in 3006:30
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BluDog_Anchoritebtw BluDog_Anchorite = osiris   ( BluDog_Anchorite is my work nick)06:32
BluDog_Anchoritejust for later clarification06:32
timahhhhhh06:32
timhow do I get the DRI drivers06:32
timlol06:32
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timgoogle is not being helpful right now06:32
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siliticx!dri06:33
ubotudri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.06:33
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timIm trying to get glx on kubuntu06:34
timand Im told that I need the DRI drivers06:34
siliticx!ati06:34
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:34
timor for beryl06:34
BluDog_Anchoritewho needs beryl, when there is E1706:35
BluDog_Anchoriteimho06:35
siliticxe17?06:35
BluDog_Anchoriteenlightenment DR 1706:35
timDoes E17 work with fglrx06:35
BluDog_Anchoritehttp://get-e.org06:35
BluDog_Anchoritetim: no.  im speaking of an entirely different window manager06:36
timyou mean instead of kde?06:36
BluDog_Anchoriteyes06:36
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siliticxaaaaaah no more beryl, have my bars back, weeee06:38
siliticxalthought i got an error message at x startup, which is bad06:38
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evahi06:39
siliticxheya eva06:39
evacould you help me out?06:39
BluDog_Anchoritedepends06:39
BluDog_Anchoriteask, and you shall be heard06:40
evaI have a latitude d600 with an intel 2100 3A and kwifi and wireless assistant can't freaking connect to a network06:40
siliticxwhat was that site blu?06:40
BluDog_Anchoritebet-e.org ?06:40
BluDog_Anchoriteer, get-e.org06:40
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momalis there any guide to flash9 beta on firefox2 with edgy??..seems my sound just suddenly stopped working so i thought re doing it would help06:40
evaif I restart kubuntu it'll connect to my home wireless but it won't let me change between connections06:41
evaeven if I try to go back to my home connection it'll say connection failed06:41
digivorehow can i get privledges to paste to a /usr/share/apps  folder????   it won't let me do it on my machine.06:42
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momal!flash906:42
ubotuFlash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html06:42
evaI'm on the wireless connection right now but if I try to use wireless assistant to reconnect to the same connection it'll say failed to connect, and when I try to use kwifi it'll say the current connection is unknown and when I scan for new networks it can't find anything06:43
BluDog_Anchoritenever played with wifi.  mostly because its a pain06:43
evaharrr06:44
evawhat a bummer06:44
BluDog_Anchoriteother than in a windows/device type fashion06:44
evawhat is it that makes the wireless connect the proper way when the computer boots up anyways?06:44
evathe OS?06:44
DaSkreech!e06:44
ubotuEnlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.06:44
smaggardHiyas!06:45
BluDog_Anchoriteno, its probably a module, that isn't releasing the device, or a driver not being able to put it in scan (promiscuous mode)06:45
smaggardoops sorry for shouting :D06:45
evahmm06:45
evaoh well06:45
evathanks06:45
evaat least I have some insight now06:45
siliticxwhats the main difference between e and kde?06:46
BluDog_Anchoriteyer welcome06:46
BluDog_Anchoritesiliticx: apples and oranges question06:46
siliticxok lemme rephrase.06:46
BluDog_Anchoritekde is more of a suite of applications, + the window manager06:46
smaggardthe edgy install is "Crapping out" on a desktop of mine... its getting about to where it usually quits so ill tell you what it says when it gets there.06:46
siliticxwhat would be the main advantage for me to e.06:46
siliticx*switch to e06:46
BluDog_Anchoriteeye candy, bleeding edge, the way the interface feels06:47
BluDog_Anchoriteif you want something real stable, dont do E06:47
smaggardlol06:47
smaggardexactly06:47
siliticxhehe ok06:47
DaSkreechsiliticx: Two letters06:47
BluDog_AnchoriteE is for people that are willing to keep up with the cvs code, and fix things when erros occure06:47
siliticx!ntfs06:47
ubotuTo view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse06:47
siliticxhgehe ok06:47
siliticxim not at that point yet06:47
smaggardBlu> and have lots of time :D haha06:47
siliticxhow about ntfs read/write status06:48
BluDog_Anchoritesmaggard: i dont have much time anymore, but you are correct06:48
siliticxwhats the developpement on that?06:48
smaggardim using kubuntu because time ran out on me.06:48
smaggardand i had never used it... and now i think its great and i look back at all the almost wasted hours spent on gentoo.06:48
BluDog_Anchoriteim a mandriva convert.06:49
smaggardhours and hours of compiling and  recompiling after you set a use flag wrong.06:49
BluDog_Anchoriteyep06:49
smaggardbut i wont dis another distro here :D06:49
smaggardok any second now this edgy installer is going to come up with a bug report/crash notice/06:49
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smaggard72% copying files...06:50
siliticxim such a noob06:50
siliticxsamba is the program to make shares, right06:50
smaggardhaha whys that06:50
smaggardyup06:50
siliticxits like everything is new to me06:50
BluDog_Anchoritesiliticx: samba is a long term for the smb protocol06:50
smaggardwell you would use samba to share files/folders with winders machines06:50
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BluDog_Anchoritesmb is windows file sharing protocol06:50
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siliticxok06:51
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siliticxso.. i get samba from apt-get, then what06:51
smaggardand browse with url like smb://hostmachine/share/06:51
BluDog_Anchoritesamba is bot ha server, and a client browser protocol06:51
siliticxhow do i make a share then?06:51
smaggarddapper comes with it installed yes?06:51
reldruhwhat's the best way to mount a samba share at startup?06:51
BluDog_Anchoriteidk.  i had to install my own samba browser06:51
smaggardright click the folder and click share06:51
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BluDog_Anchoriteand samba server is WAY harder than it was in mandriva to set up06:52
smaggardok my edgy gets to 84% copying files an and says "installer crashed"  ubiquity and kde-ui.py are mentioned.06:53
BluDog_Anchoritepython errors06:53
BluDog_Anchoriteone moment06:53
smaggardim checking syslog too06:53
BluDog_Anchoritesmaggard: i think i have a guy that knows how to fix that one06:54
smaggardjust says RuntimeError: install failed with exit code 13206:54
BluDog_Anchoriteseein if he's available06:54
smaggardaight thanks :D06:54
BluDog_Anchoritemay i pm ?06:54
smaggardsure06:54
smaggardbtw this is a soyo dragon mobo.. gettin kinda old..06:55
BluDog_Anchoriteoh, i have a soyo dragon in my file server06:55
smaggardah i cant pm u back im not registerd, but ill head there.06:55
BluDog_Anchoritek06:55
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siliticxpoll : mplayer or vlc?06:57
BluDog_Anchoriteboth06:57
BluDog_Anchoritevlc for playing interlaced video06:57
BluDog_Anchoritemplayer for everything else06:57
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siliticxwhat about codecs?06:58
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foodcomanGreetings.07:00
siliticxheya food.07:00
siliticxerm.. nice bug07:02
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siliticxvlc just ..crashed? went fullscreen then i couldnt go back07:02
siliticxalt-tabbed, theres something called X , but vlc is closed and the sound is still playing07:02
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siliticxand close doesnt work...07:04
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siliticxany..like.. task manager?07:06
JucatoCtrl+Esc07:06
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momalflash 9 under firefox2 on edgy wont play any sound... it used to before can anyone help me ??07:08
siliticx1. cant find the process07:08
siliticx2. why the &(* is 976 mb of ram used O_O07:08
siliticxAny way, i gotta get in windows for the night07:10
foodcomanFor some reason wlassistant on my thinkpad does not connect when it issues dhclient -q eth1.  However when i issue a dhclient eth1 without the -q it works fine.   Any ideas?07:10
foodcomanIf there was a file I could edit to tell wlassistant not to use the -q that owuld be great.07:11
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Nukedany good places for dr17 themes?07:15
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Kreamhi all07:28
=== Kream has been remastering the kubuntu livecd and has come up with a serious problem
Kreameven on a p4 with 256mb of ram, the remastered livecd takes well over 4 minutes between clicks07:29
Kreamthe cd thrashes all the time07:29
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RiddellKream: hmm, tricky07:31
Kreamthis is really really suboptimal.07:32
Kreamespecially when knoppix runs perfectly acceptably in a computer with 128mb of ram07:32
RiddellKream: I don't know enough about the live CD system to know why that could be, and I don't even know where would be a better place to ask07:32
Riddellwell, the answer is to ask tfheen, but he's out by the pool drinking beer so it might not be the best time07:33
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graymangreetings07:34
graymanwould anyone know why i get an 1.0.0.0 ip for archives.ubuntu.com?07:35
Riddellgrayman: try a different nameserver07:35
graymanlike?07:35
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momalflash 9 under firefox2 on edgy wont play any sound... it used to before can anyone help me ??07:36
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Riddellor try gb.archives07:36
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Riddellnameserver 193.28.45.4207:36
RiddellKream: what's the remaster for?07:37
KreamRiddell:  hindi localised, special phonetic keyboard for hindi and urdu, gimp,07:37
graymanit's funny07:37
graymansuddenly the ping is ok07:37
graymanlike yesterday07:38
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KreamRiddell:  is there some way to slimline the cd so that the memory requirements are not so huge ? or optimise the squashfs filesystem so that the cd doesn't seek quite so much?07:41
RiddellKream: do you have the same problem on the official kubuntu live CD?07:42
Kreammore or less, yes07:42
Kreamit's hugely unresponsive on a computer with 256mb of ram07:42
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Riddelloh, then there's probably no easy answers07:42
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_DsM_get more ram.07:45
_DsM_lol07:45
_DsM_j/k07:45
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Kreamright.07:45
_DsM_i agree with you07:46
Riddellit should be OK on 256MB, I have tested it on that much and it's been fine but that was dapper07:46
Riddellwell, there's an idea, you could try dapper07:46
_DsM_the kubuntu 6.10 live cd's are terrible slow unless you have 512 or more07:46
KreamRiddell:  there's something that knoppix does at boot - if the ram is <somelimit, then it asks you whether you want to mout swap, if found, or if you want to create and mount a swap file on a detected FAT partition. the livecd could do that.07:48
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Kreamand the swap is unmounted only when the partition table is being modified. the moment mkswap is run on a partition, the installer should mount it07:48
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felixjethi all07:49
RiddellI'm sure our live cd system (casper) does use the hard disk for swap, but I don't know enough about it to say under what conditions07:49
Riddellhi felixjet07:49
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felixjethouston, we have a problem :( when i start kubuntu on normal mode, after GRUB selection it says: Uncompressing linux... -Ran out of input data -System halted .And it stops there :( now im on rev. mode, what can i do??07:50
Riddellrev. mode?07:51
felixjetrecovery mode07:51
Riddellfelixjet: sounds like linux is failing to load itself, or something else, a reinstall is probably necessary07:51
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felixjetbut i didnt anything! i just logoff from linux... i went windows to check somethings and now i reboot and it dont works07:52
felixjetand then ppl say linux is more stable..... always failed from all sides u_U07:52
felixjetfailing*07:52
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fiyawerxevening07:53
felixjethow can i fix it?? without reinstall07:53
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fiyawerxis there still an "easy sources" creator website like there used to be, but for edgy?07:55
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felixjeti cant enter #linux channel07:56
felixjetwhy????07:56
fdovingfiyawerx: don't think it's updated for edgy.07:56
felixjeti mean, i cant change to that windows with this IRC client07:56
fdoving!easysource07:56
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:56
felixjetthe one from shell07:56
fdoving!easyubuntu07:57
ubotueasyubuntu is easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/  -  For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu07:57
fiyawerxfdoving: thanks, just installed fresh, havn't used my linux partition in about 6 months figured i'd see whats new07:57
fiyawerxearlier someone said the easyubuntu/automatix aren't really suggested?07:57
fdovingfiyawerx: no, we do not recommend using them.07:57
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fiyawerxhmm07:57
fiyawerxis there a common list of "do these first" installs?07:57
fiyawerxor even sources to add?07:58
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fdovingthere is http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic07:58
dude_hi guys07:58
fiyawerxim using edgy, now07:58
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fdovingfiyawerx: just edit the resulting sources.list with a editor, and then replace all instances of 'dapper' with 'edgy'.07:58
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momalAnyone have a working howto for flash9 under firefox2 in edgy??07:59
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nixternalmomal: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279990&highlight=flash08:01
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momalnixternal: thanks will look at it when i get back :)08:03
namhaidi have a prob. when i started today kubuntu, after GRUB menu selection, it said: -Uncompressing linux.... -Ran out of input data -System halted .And it sttoped there :( now i run it perfectly on recovery mode, im even in KDE. but what can i do to fix that???08:03
KreamRiddell:  was the squashfs layout  optimised to start faster ?08:04
fiyawerxwhats the command to reconfigure your xorg? isn't it like dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg or so08:04
Riddellnamhaid: are you related to felixjet?08:04
namhaidyes08:04
Jucatofiyawerx: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:04
namhaidi am felixjet08:04
fiyawerxthats the one, ty08:04
RiddellKream: I don't know I'm afraid, tfheen would know (but he's not at a computer just now)08:04
Riddellnamhaid: as I said to felixjet, it sounds like linux can't read itself probably because the hard disk is corrupt, you should reinstall08:05
Riddellnamhaid: infact you should be able to get away with just apt-getting the linux image08:05
namhaidbut im on linux right now :S08:05
Riddellapt-get --reinstall linux-xxx08:06
Riddellapt-get install --reinstall linu-xxx rather08:06
namhaidon recovery mode, but im on KDE with all working08:06
namhaidi will lose data or configs? or apps?08:06
fiyawerxwith any luck, brb08:06
Riddellnamhaid: you won't loose anything by just reinstalling the linux package08:06
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Riddellfiyawerx: success at something?08:07
fiyawerxhm, or not08:07
fiyawerxwas tryin to get my nvidia drivers workin :)08:07
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fiyawerxgot nice resolution and whatnot, looks like no glx tho08:07
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KreamRiddell:  ahh he's the casper guy08:09
jobless_!info wireless08:09
ubotuPackage wireless does not exist in any distro I know08:09
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jobless_!wireless assistant08:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wireless assistant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:09
namhaidRiddell: what if i compile a new kernel and install it? will works?08:09
jobless_!info wireless assistant08:09
ubotuPackage wireless does not exist in edgy08:09
fiyawerx!nvidia08:09
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:09
momalAww.. I tried that guide already.. flash9 works just no sound :(08:09
fiyawerxi remember a problem like that08:10
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fiyawerxawesome, glx works, nvidia works :)08:13
harmentalhi everybody.....i have quite of a problem....08:13
fiyawerxhmm, now to find somehow to make the fonts not hurt my eyes so much @ 1280x102408:13
fiyawerx!fonts08:14
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto08:14
ubotuNo fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer08:14
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harmentali've upgraded to edgy and since then i cant create folders with french characters ( )08:14
harmentalany ideas???08:14
harmentalbonjour  tous!08:14
Riddellnamhaid: why compile it when you can use apt-get?08:15
harmentalje viens de faire un upgrade  edgy et je ne peut plus creer de dossiers avec de lettre du genre    .....08:15
namhaidRiddell: can you help me with the exact command please? im so noob still :(08:15
harmentalqqun aurait des idees????08:15
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Jucato!fr08:16
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:16
Riddellnamhaid: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic08:16
namhaidlinux-image-generic ??08:17
namhaidokeY08:17
harmentalanybody?08:17
namhaidthank you :)08:17
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jobless_hey i have to connect to two different wireless networks (at school and one at home). shud i use the network profiles to save the settings?08:18
jobless_!wireless08:18
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:18
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fiyawerx!mp308:25
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:25
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willyque onda08:29
willyalguien me puede ayudar no puedo instalar08:29
Jucato!es08:30
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.08:30
fiyawerxwhere does libxine-extracodecs come from? I enabled the commented out sources and did an update, but it still can't seem to find it08:30
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Jucatofiyawerx: multiverse. you have to add it manually08:33
Jucato!multiverse | fiyawerx08:33
ubotufiyawerx: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu08:33
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fiyawerxthanks again08:33
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willyalguien me ayuda08:37
fiyawerx!firefox08:38
ubotufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins08:38
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unoeassalamualaikom08:49
unoehellowww08:49
unoeany body home08:49
lunitikunoe: apparently not  :(08:49
fiyawerxwhere can i change the font xterm uses?08:49
fiyawerxargh08:50
fiyawerxall these fonts look too skinny/sharp08:50
lunitikfiyawerx: xterm is definitely not designed with the tweaker in mind  ;)08:50
fiyawerxi cant seem to find any that dont look horrid on my lcd08:50
fiyawerxi just want something nice for mudding heh08:50
fiyawerxit seems to be just stuck at $Deafult08:51
fiyawerxso im changing the fonts in system settings -> appearance08:51
method|fiyawerx: try konsole08:51
fiyawerxhavnt found any serif's that actually look good08:51
method|you can configure fonts in that i think08:51
fiyawerxer.. thats what i meant08:51
fiyawerxi didn't mean xterm , sorry08:51
method|first off all you gotta do alot to make fonts not look like shit in linux period08:51
fiyawerxoh08:51
fiyawerxso its not just me08:51
method|hold on a sec08:51
method|i'll tell you how to make them better08:51
lunitikmethod|: That was a true statement 5 years ago....08:52
fiyawerxoh08:52
fiyawerxi turned anti-aliasing for fonts off08:52
method|lunitik: no it isnt08:52
fiyawerxand on dejavu serif, it looks like it may be ok08:52
method|default ubuntu fonts look like crap08:52
lunitikmethod|: actually pretty much until Xorg branched, and they started syncing fontconfig08:52
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method|there's a command it was like dkpg font reconfig or something08:52
method|anyone know what im talking about?08:52
method|i forget the exact console command08:53
lunitikmethod|: dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig  or  defoma?08:53
method|yeah that's it08:53
fiyawerxwill that do a lot? I think i have have helped it by turning AA off08:53
method|fiyawerx: enter that in08:53
method|and turn everything to none or off or disabled08:53
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lunitikfiyawerx: Gnome font configuration has a few defaults for different cases... such as LCD screens... KDE has nothing like that....08:54
willyalguien me puede ayudar, quiero instalar jbuilder08:54
method|once you do that go to kmenu->appearance->fonts  click the option to enable anti aliasing08:54
method|then click on configure08:55
method|and make the hinting style SLIGHT08:55
method|then you might wanna reboot or something08:55
method|also08:55
method|for some reason I have noticed that enabling BERYL/AIGLX or BERYL/XGL makes your fonts way better too08:55
method|i dont know why but it does08:55
fiyawerxi was thinking about that08:56
method|my fonts in kubuntu rival OSX's08:56
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fiyawerxhavnt read up on beryl/xgl yet tho08:56
method|but yeah if you follow all those steps then everything will look a whole lot better08:56
fiyawerxbut have a gig of ram and 128 meg pci-e nvidia 6600gt card08:56
fiyawerxok almost done, brb08:57
method|fonts are my main linux annoyances08:57
fiyawerxnod, i do a lot of nethack and muds so want it to look right :)08:57
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fiyawerxshould I, er, what actual font for default do you suggest?08:57
fiyawerxi set it to dejavu's08:57
fiyawerxshould i set it back?08:57
lunitikfiyawerx: dejavu is my favorate... and everyone is setting it as default... works out  :)08:58
fiyawerx:)08:58
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knappwow ktorrent is freakin wacky08:58
method|hrm08:58
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fiyawerxok, one last question, you know how colors in terminals differ sometimes08:58
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fiyawerxlike there's 2 main "color schemas"08:58
method|yeah i think i use sans serif08:58
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fiyawerxwhere red in one window may look different than red on another08:59
method|yep i use sans serif08:59
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lunitikuhh... pretend I spelled that correctly08:59
fiyawerxbrb restarting x08:59
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Jucatolunitik: ok. I'll pretend :P08:59
xunixhelp.. how to reinstall my mysql..???08:59
lunitikxunix: umm... apt-cache search mysql ... but probably "apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server"  (maybe not?)09:00
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lunitikJucato: thanks for the correction... hadn't turned on spell checking  :$09:01
Jucatolunitik: I don't have it on either...09:01
xunixlunitik: ok.. i'll try it09:01
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fiyawerxok, thats a bit better09:02
fiyawerxaltho when i did the 'dpkg-reconfigure' it just did al ot of stuff automatically, was no asking for anything09:02
lunitikJucato: oh, I do now... I can't live without spell checker... annoying!09:02
Jucatolunitik: on Konversation?09:02
lunitikJucato: yeah... right click where you type and select "Auto Spell Check" or whatever at the bottem09:02
lunitikbottom even09:03
fiyawerxaww, it doesn't like hah09:03
Jucatooh kool09:03
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Jucatonever realized it was there hehehe09:03
fiyawerxor aww, for that matter09:03
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fiyawerxcan you change konversation's scheme to not be dark on light?09:03
Jucatofiyawerx: yes. whatever color you choose09:04
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lunitikJucato: you don't talk to Sho_ enough  ;)09:04
Jucatoor font, for that matter09:04
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philip_I was wondering if anyone knows what would cause my entire computer to freeze.  I was using KTorrent when I opened a video file in Kaffenine, which caused my mouse and everything else to just freeze in place, forcing a restart.09:04
fiyawerxhmm09:04
Jucatolunitik: not really. just never had a need for it in IRC... :P09:04
fiyawerxwill ahve to look into that09:04
fiyawerxso much white makes my head hurt09:04
Jucatofiyawerx: Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Interface group -> Colors09:04
lunitikphilip_: no idea... sorry... anything enlightening in logs?09:05
fiyawerxaw damn09:05
fiyawerxyou have to change them all manually09:05
Jucatoerr.. yeah09:05
lunitikphilip_: /var/log/syslog.0 for instance....09:06
fiyawerxwas hoping it'd have schemes :)09:06
Jucatolazy guy :P09:06
Jucatoj/k09:06
fiyawerxhehe09:06
fiyawerxmostly :)09:06
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fiyawerxguess i'll have to leave it white for now, or maybe find another client that i can totally theme dark09:07
fiyawerxchanging thebg only changes the actual channel bg, still have ugly wihte all over09:07
fiyawerxlol, only thing turning spellcheck on does is make me type more red words :)09:07
Jucatougly white where?09:07
fiyawerxlike the channel list09:07
lunitikfiyawerx: you're thinking too locally.... KControl > Appearence & Themes > Colors ... use a dark theme  :)09:07
fiyawerxlunitik: aha, thanks! will check that out09:07
Jucatothat's a solution too. but affects the entire desktop09:08
fiyawerxthat'll work :)09:08
lunitikfiyawerx: haha... I actually check unless its on purpose  :)09:08
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fiyawerxi didnt think to look into full kde themes, will have to check out some sites09:08
philip_Theres nothing in /var/log/syslog.0 since nine hours ago.09:08
willyalguien sabe como instalar jbuilder09:09
fiyawerx!themes09:09
ubotuFind your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy09:09
lunitikwhat is that language? Portuguese ?09:09
yamal!es09:10
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.09:10
fiyawerxoh, i guess this will be a lot of moot if i use beryl and whatnot right09:10
lunitikyamal: thanks  :)09:10
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lunitikfiyawerx: beryl themes only the window manager (right click title bar > advanced > no border to see exactly what window managers are responsible for -- it tells you how to get it back... PAY ATTENTION))09:11
willysh /home/kilitoz/per_install.bin09:11
willyPreparing to install...09:11
willyExtracting the JRE from the installer archive...09:11
willyUnpacking the JRE...09:12
willyExtracting the installation resources from the installer archive...09:12
willyConfiguring the installer for this system's environment...09:12
willyLaunching installer...09:12
willy/tmp/install.dir.8735/Linux/resource/jre/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error whi le loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object  file: No such file or directory09:12
willyerror whi le loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object  file: No such file or directory09:12
Jucato!;09:12
lunitik!paster09:12
lunitik!past09:12
Jucato!pastebin | willy09:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about paster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:12
ubotuwilly: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:12
namhaidlaggers xD09:12
fiyawerxoh, thats all that beryl does?09:12
fiyawerxhmm09:12
fiyawerxi don't really mind kde's that much09:12
method|it makes your windows wiggle09:12
method|lol09:12
fiyawerxlol09:13
willymethod09:13
method|i love beryl tho honestly09:13
willyhelp me09:13
method|it's still kind of buggy09:13
lunitikfiyawerx: well... all the cool effects too... but thats where its implemented09:13
method|willy: with what?09:13
willywhit error is error whi le loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object  file: No such file or directory09:13
lunitikfiyawerx: If I was you I'd just wait for KDE4's kwin... which will support similar things.....09:13
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method|what are you trying to do?09:13
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method|lunitik: who wants to wait when you can have cool things now?09:14
method|heh09:14
fiyawerxlunitik: nod09:14
method|willy: what are you trying to do first of all?09:14
lunitikmethod|: because Beryl is _very_ broken today?09:14
fiyawerxim in no rush, once i get a decent color scheme set09:14
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method|lunitik: i wouldn't say VERY09:14
lunitikmethod|: I would09:14
method|it has its quirks09:14
willyinstalling jbuilder09:14
willyi dont know09:14
willycan u help me09:14
method|you apparently dont have some libraries that you need09:14
lunitikThe bot needs a way to translate things09:15
willyyes i have09:15
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willyi write udo apt-get install libstdc++609:15
method|did it successfully install?09:16
willyno09:16
xunix!pastebin09:16
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)09:16
lunitikwilly: add universe and multiverse to /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update && apt-get install sun-java5-plugin09:16
willyout me09:16
method|follow lunitiks advice09:16
method|cause i honestly dont know much about java anything09:16
lunitikwilly: for devel? use sun-java5-sdk09:17
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gflashmoin09:17
lunitikgflash: you mistyped gnash ?09:18
xunixhelp me.. my mysql problem in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30716/09:18
lunitikxunix: it says to look at /var/log/syslog.0 .... paste that someplace if you don't understand it....09:18
willythank u anothers day09:18
willythanks09:18
gflashlunitik: not really :) gflash is a short form of my real name09:19
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lunitikgflash: of sorry.... gnash is gnu flash  :o09:19
lunitikOnly compatible to Flash 7 though... which doesn't work with most Flash things these days  :(09:20
gflashsounds interesting. the flash9beta works great for me, but a free flash player would be much better09:21
gflashdoes it work with konqueror?09:22
fiyawerxhmm09:22
lunitikgflash: via nsplugins probably... but yes either way09:22
fiyawerxi ahvnt tried getting flash working yet, im scared09:22
lunitikfiyawerx: its not scary.... wuss09:23
lunitik:P09:23
fiyawerx!flash09:23
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:23
fiyawerxwell then, lets take a look09:23
method|[02:21]  <gflash> sounds interesting. the flash9beta works great for me, but a free flash player would be much better09:23
gflashfiyawerx: it's quite easy... download and unpack it, copy the .so in the correct dir and it works :)09:23
xunixlunitik: it's say cannot found mysqld.sock.. en there is no file in /var/run/mysqld/09:23
method|gflash: does it really?09:23
method|gflash: flash 9 crashes opera regularly09:24
method|it works decently on konqueror09:24
lunitikfiyawerx: yeah... just go grab the Adobe flash9beta stuff... untar it and throw the lib into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins .... done09:24
method|but it still kinda sucks09:24
gflashmethod|: ist crashes my konqueror sometimes, but not very often09:24
fiyawerxcool09:24
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fiyawerxthis will make me happy :)09:24
method|flash 9 and opera didn't mix well together at all :(09:24
somekoolhi there... any kubuntu live CD yet with KDE developer preview 2 ?09:24
namhaidopera sucks09:24
namhaidxD09:24
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lunitikxunix: packages.ubuntu.com has a way to search files... see what provides them09:24
method|made me switch to konqueror09:24
gflashthe beta is much faster tha the old flash7 for linux09:24
gflashmaybe as fast as flash in windows is09:25
fiyawerxok, im impressed09:26
fiyawerxi remember how bad this was lol09:26
lunitikgflash: flash is still ugly in Konqueror... blah... will be nice to be able to have a community maintained version that is compatible with current adobe stuffs09:26
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fiyawerxwell google video working great in ff09:26
lunitikfiyawerx: Flash plugins are fine in Firefox... likewise Java stuffs... I usually only use Firefox for such things... and other more adult things  :P09:27
gflashfiyawerx: it works also in konqeror09:27
felixjetfirefox is a bit.. always crash when im working and i loss all09:27
lunitikThen Konqueror for general browsing09:27
lunitikfelixjet: Firefox can "Restore Session"  :/09:27
gflashi like it very much, but it could be a little faster ;)09:27
fiyawerxnod09:27
felixjetbut only 2.0 right?09:27
fiyawerxi kinda do like konq09:28
lunitikfelixjet: yes... thats the version in Edgy... what Kubuntu you using?09:28
felixjet6.0609:28
lunitikfelixjet: ew... upgrade!  :P09:28
felixjetwhy?09:28
JucatoKonqueror can "save" a session, too. but not automatically09:28
felixjetedgy only offer bugs09:28
lunitikfelixjet: actually... its probably in backports.... you have those enabled?09:28
felixjetyes09:29
lunitikfelixjet: Edgy is all stable upstream software...09:29
felixjeti dont stop read ppl asking for help in edgy, most on upgrades from dapper09:29
gflashwell, more or less stable ;)09:29
felixjetso im scared lol09:29
lunitikfelixjet: heh.... ye o lil trust  :P09:30
method|[02:28]  <Jucato> Konqueror can "save" a session, too. but not automatically09:30
method|how can you make konq do this?09:30
method|i really miss that feature from opera09:30
fiyawerxgreat video to test my new flash plugin09:30
gflashi had to disable the splash screen on bootup. with the splash, my edgy sometimes doesn't boot09:30
Jucatomethod|: Save View Profile09:30
fiyawerxhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1384277706451157121&q=white+and+nerdy09:30
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fiyawerx:)09:30
fiyawerxholy crap, my volume knob on the keyboard works09:30
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Jucatomethod|: I mapped Ctrl+S to Save View Profile so that I can "save" the opened tabs.09:31
gflashwoah, mine too09:31
method|Jucato: theres no way to make it do it automatically?09:31
JucatoKonqueror also has a Crash Monitor restore plugin09:31
Jucatomethod|: none that I know of09:31
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method|ic09:31
Jucatohi Admiral_Chicago09:31
lunitikfiyawerx: kmilo to the rescue... Kubuntu still goes by Ubuntu's "just works" philosophy  ;)09:32
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: hello09:32
Admiral_Chicagoi hate gnome09:32
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: meet me in #offtopic?09:32
method|lol @ i hate gnome09:32
method|i need to try gnome out again09:32
method|havent used it in quite some time09:33
method|probably since breezy09:33
Admiral_Chicagoi've been a KDE man since Breezy09:33
lunitikAdmiral_Chicago: A lot of the software that goes into KDE is developed by Gnome people  *shrug*09:33
fiyawerxlunitik: volume knob never worked in dapper :)09:33
Jucatolunitik: a lot?09:33
Admiral_Chicagolunitik: yea but the gui is awful09:33
lunitikJucato: dbus and hal... some specs ... lots of things yes09:34
fiyawerxand now it "just works" so so far i couldn't be happier with edgy09:34
method|kde is dropping dcop and going to dbus correct?09:34
lunitikAdmiral_Chicago: The GUI is licensed in a more attractive way to businesses... so gets more attention from them....09:34
Jucatolunitik: dbus and hal are fdo specs. and dbus was only patterned after dcop09:34
fiyawerxnow i just dont know what I want to do next09:34
lunitikmethod|: its already done... but won't be released until KDE409:34
fiyawerxahh, of course, backgrounds09:34
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lunitikJucato: they were both developed within the Gnome community first *shrug*09:35
Jucatolunitik: dbus was only developed by GNOME in response (or retaliation?) to dcop09:35
lunitikMy point is - with Open Source - everyone wins... because everyone benefits...09:36
fiyawerxexcept the people who own the competiton09:36
fiyawerx:)09:36
lunitikJucato: wrong... it is becoming more like dcop today due to kde folks09:36
Jucatoexcept the people who make money out of the competition09:36
lunitikJucato: they actually were thinking about dcop... but basically they decided bonobo sucked... and needed something better09:36
fiyawerxfigures09:37
Jucatolunitik: dcop came first. but it was  KDE-only technology. then GNOME started to develop DBus for themselves and then was suggested to fdo09:37
fiyawerxdeviantART is currently performing system maintenance.09:37
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lunitikJucato: Anything can go to fdo... kde folks caved because gnome folks wouldn't....09:37
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gflashwell, the "change screen" button on my notebook crashes the kernel :(09:38
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gflashbut the other buttons work! :)09:38
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lunitikJucato: better for all if the linux desktop uses the same things to talk to itself  :)09:39
lunitikGnome folks don't seem to care about anything but Gnome though  :/09:40
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charlie5hi folks ...09:40
lunitik(actually, not true... because they are adopting -basically- kde's mime type specs...09:41
lunitik)09:41
lunitikcharlie5: hey09:41
charlie5... would anyone happen to have a HP PSC 1610 printer ?09:41
charlie5gday lunitik :D09:41
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lunitik!printing09:42
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows09:42
xunix!mysqld.sock09:42
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mysqld.sock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:42
lunitik!find mysqld.sock09:42
ubotuPackage/file mysqld.sock does not exist in edgy09:42
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charlie5lunitik: cheers ... i will read these :) ... i had some trubble with this printer with breezy and was wondering if anything has changed for casper09:43
adwaitmysqld.sock isn't a package..........its the socked used to connect to mysql09:43
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lunitikcharlie5: for casper?09:43
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lunitikIt says that during boot too... I thought 6.10 was Edgy Eft?09:43
lunitikadwait: so xunix should install sockd ?09:45
adwaitlutnik: i just came so I don't quite know what the problem is.....but the socked isnt something that can be installed09:45
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adwaitlutnik: the socked file show normally be created by mysql itself09:46
fiyawerxanyone know how i get the 'vga' font?09:46
fiyawerx!fonts09:46
ubotuFont installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto09:46
ubotuNo fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer09:46
adwait*socket09:46
lunitikadwait: [01:18]  <xunix> help me.. my mysql problem in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30716/     [01:23]  <xunix> lunitik: it's say cannot found mysqld.sock.. en there is no file in /var/run/mysqld/   <-- all he's really said09:47
fiyawerxooh, i need to install nxserver so i can get here from work09:47
adwaithmm, i had the same problem after an upgrade09:47
lunitikadwait: the second message is from syslog.0 ...09:47
adwaittry renaming the /etc/mysql/my.cnf09:47
lunitikadwait: direct your help at xunix so it gets his attention... I've never messed with a MySQL server...09:48
adwaitxunix: u there?09:48
lunitik(actually, I guess this is probably via Amarok? I usually use sqlite for that...)09:48
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adwaithmm...hes gone i guess...09:49
lunitikadwait: oh well... thanks for trying   :)09:49
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adwaitnot much activity here ...09:51
ninouhu09:51
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xunixlunitik: yup09:54
lunitikxunix: meet adwait  ;)09:55
xunixlunitik: i dont know.. how can the mysqld.sock file is gone in /var/run/mysqld/09:55
osiriswhat is the name of the service to monitor cpu temp  ?09:56
osirisim at a total loss right now09:56
lunitikosiris: lmsensors ?09:57
osirisTHERE you go09:57
osiristhanks09:57
osiriswas driving me nuts09:57
lunitikosiris: you're welcome   :)09:57
xunixadwait: i'm here09:57
Jucatogkrellm?09:57
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osirisno not gkrellm09:58
lunitikJucato: gkrelm uses lmsensors ...09:58
osirisand lmsensors turns up nothin in my sources list.  but i DO remember lmsensors to be correct at one time09:58
Jucatolunitik: iirc, it doesn't...09:58
lunitik(or can, I don't think its a default plugin?)09:58
osirisi have gkrellm09:58
abattoir!info lmsensors09:59
ubotuPackage lmsensors does not exist in any distro I know09:59
abattoir!info lmsensor09:59
ubotuPackage lmsensor does not exist in any distro I know09:59
Jucatoabattoir: maybe you can provide some clarification?09:59
Jucato!lm-sensors09:59
xunixadwait: mysqld.sock in /var/run/mysqld/ is disappear09:59
ubotulm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.0-7ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 479 kB, installed size 1472 kB09:59
abattoirJucato: w.r.t what?09:59
Jucatowhether gkrellm uses lm-sensors09:59
Jucatoor not09:59
abattoirJucato: all i use is beautiful Superkaramba, and i know it doesn't use it ;)09:59
Jucatohahah09:59
abattoirthough you can script it to use it10:00
osirisabattoir, cheers10:00
abattoirosiris: :)10:00
Jucatooh \well10:00
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cpk1i think i tried using a superkaramba thingy but for some reason it wouldnt work10:00
felixjetlunitik: i've been thinking... xd should i upgrade to edgy? (really)10:00
osirisno10:00
abattoircpk1: which one?10:00
cpk1abattoir: i think mostly anything... let me try again =P10:01
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abattoircpk1: there are a lot of useful/good looking ones, give them a shot again ;)10:01
fiyawerxhmm10:01
fiyawerxanyone else play nethack?10:01
cpk1abattoir: any you reccomend?10:02
fiyawerxtrying to find a font that will display ibm graphics in konsole10:02
lunitikfiyawerx: Falcons Eye or whatever is a cool frontend for it....10:02
abattoircpk1: depends on your needs, get yourself a nice system monitor, and of course the all-time popular liquid weather plus10:02
abattoircpk1: browse through them briefly, and you might find some useful stuff10:03
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leslielu tout le monde10:04
abattoir!fr10:04
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:04
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abattoirleslie: ^^^10:04
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cpk1abattoir: bah i have download and install liquid weather manually =P10:06
Lancellorquick quesion i have a turion 64x2 wich is a dual core 6r bit laptop do i use the 64 bit edition or can i use the pc edition10:06
abattoirLancellor: you can use both10:06
abattoirLancellor: but if you are new to linux, i suggest the 32-bit version10:06
Lancellorso what is the diference10:06
abattoirLancellor: your processor has 32-bit compatibility mode, so it can run a 32-bit OS as well10:07
lesliej'"ai une edgy et je trouve quelle consomme normment de mmmoir 412845 kb dans la charge du systeme c normal ou y a un pb?10:07
abattoir!fr | leslie10:07
ubotuleslie: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.10:07
abattoirunless that isn't fr10:07
leslieoki10:07
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fiyawerxlunitik: i play on nethack.alt.org's server, keeps scores and whatnot :) just trying to find a font that will actually display it irght, works great in putty on windoze10:07
Lancellornow i have a pavilion dv2125nr do i have any chances of succed???10:07
felixjet!torcs10:07
ubotutorcs: 3D racing cars simulator game using OpenGL. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4-2 (edgy), package size 4371 kB, installed size 20892 kB10:07
cpk1has anyone experienced gaim using up 100% cpu and not being able to redraw itself while thats happening?10:07
abattoirLancellor: sure it should work fine10:08
charlie5lunitik: sorry :) ... 'edgy'  i meant10:08
cpk1this can go on for several minutes10:08
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abattoirLancellor: there is a Laptop testing page at the wiki... you can browse through it if you want10:08
Lancellorcan i get it?? thanks10:08
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abattoirLancellor: one sec10:08
Lancellorthanks for your help10:09
Jucato!laptop10:09
ubotuLaptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org10:09
cpk1abattoir: whats the package name for pyqt?10:10
abattoircpk1: it should already be installed10:10
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abattoir!info python-qt310:10
ubotupython-qt3: Qt3 bindings for Python. In component main, is optional. Version 3.16-1.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2209 kB, installed size 9968 kB10:10
cpk1ok, just making sure i have all the deps for liquid weather10:10
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felixjetits the info about upgrade on "http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php" right?10:12
abattoirLancellor: closest i could find was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HP_Pavilion_dv2120us , but its not really useful10:12
felixjetor it will gives errors?10:12
abattoir!upgrade | felixjet10:12
ubotufelixjet: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)10:12
abattoirfelixjet: follow those10:13
felixjetokey10:13
abattoirLancellor: should work though10:13
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felixjetabattoir: can i do it now, right? i mean from KDE with some apps open10:17
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abattoirfelixjet: yeah sure, that's not a problem10:17
abattoirfelixjet: just follow those instructions carefully, make sure kubuntu-desktop is installed and that packages like xserver-xorg aren't held back10:18
ubuntu__i have erased my kernel-image on /boot. how can i reinstall it ?10:19
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abattoirubuntu__: which one vmlinuz?10:20
ubuntu__is it a dpkg-reconfigure <somepackage> or apt-get install kernel-image ?10:20
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abattoirubuntu__: it's provided by the appropriate linux-image package10:20
ubuntu__abattoir: yes10:20
felixjetwell, this is downloading more than a GB :S10:20
abattoirfelixjet: dapper-> edgy?10:20
felixjetya10:20
abattoirfelixjet: hmm, i guess you have a lot of packages from universe installed10:20
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felixjetyes xd10:21
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ubuntu__abattoir: apt-get install linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic10:24
ubuntu__i need this10:24
abattoirubuntu__: it'd say it's already installed10:24
ubuntu__but apt-get says: already installed10:24
abattoirubuntu__: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image....10:24
ubuntu__ok10:24
ubuntu__do you know if the initrd is in this pak too ?10:25
abattoirubuntu__: no initrd is generated by a script10:25
abattoirubuntu__: you deleted that as well?10:25
ubuntu__yes10:25
abattoirubuntu__: just curious... why?10:25
ubuntu__but i only need the vmlinuz and initrd10:26
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abattoirubuntu__: try 'sudo update-initramfs -k 2.6.17-10-386 -c'10:27
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Schalkenhow come when i move a floating toolbar it jumps around allover the place?10:28
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osirisis 118 degrees F considered hot for a chip ?10:29
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abattoirosiris: i guess it depends on the chip10:30
osirisxp190010:30
abattoirosiris: search online, there might be a chart showing the temp. that it can withstand10:30
abattoirosiris: my turion often goes to 89 C10:30
osirishttp://rafb.net/paste/results/uM4ECL57.nln.html10:30
abattoirand nothing has happened... yet :P10:30
osirisanything look strange ?10:31
osiristhis thing has been locking up a lot lately10:31
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x_linkHi folx !10:31
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osirismight be my video card10:31
x_linkI just have a question. I'm really new with Linux and I use Debian.10:31
dhqfdoving:hey  do you have any idea on user bars or where i can get help10:32
abattoirosiris: oh, then 59 is pretty cool i guess... but as i said, checkup online10:32
x_linkI heard that Kubuntu is Debian based. I have a P II that I used Debian on before, 450MHz, 640MB RAM, 64MB GeForce2 MX-440 video card etc. Debian workde pretty good on that machine.10:32
cpk1abattoir: liquid weather worked painlessly =D10:32
abattoirx_link: this is a kubuntu channel... but we may still be able to help you10:32
x_linkBut Kubuntu is running really slow, why is that ?10:32
abattoircpk1: :)10:32
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x_linkabattoir: I know it's a Kubuntu channel, my question is about Kubuntu as well =)10:32
abattoirx_link: hmmm... is booting slow or just KDE/10:33
abattoir*?10:33
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x_linkIt takes some time when I'am opening programs etc.10:33
abattoirx_link: or do you mean the live cd?10:33
x_linkNope, not live cd.-10:33
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x_linkI just installed Kubuntu on it cause I want to see how it is.10:33
x_linkI like Debian, and I heard that Kubuntu is like Debian ( but a bit easier)10:34
x_linkBut I can run Kubuntu on this machine, it's much better than that P II. I just installed it on the P II to see how it looks.10:34
ehirdubuntu is basically an annual fork of debian10:34
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abattoirx_link: could be because of the graphics card... have you tried installing the binary nvidia drivers?10:34
Schalkenx_link: it is, but like any OS it has problems with certain hardware ;)10:34
ehirdso basically it IS debian but easier10:34
x_linkSchalken: Okey.10:35
x_linkehird: Okey.10:35
x_linkabattoir: I don't have internet access on that machine.10:35
x_linkI must get a router first.10:35
x_linkBut one thing I didn't like with Kubuntu is that it doesn't have any programs at all.10:36
abattoirx_link: what do you mean?10:36
x_linkwell, it have programs lol. But not as Debian.10:36
ehirdum10:36
abattoirx_link: it comes w/ a pretty comprehensive suite of apps10:36
ehirdstop saying "like in debian"10:36
ehirdubuntu IS a fork of debian10:36
abattoirx_link: you can install more if you want to10:36
ehirdand, it has apt-get like debian10:36
x_linkOkey.10:36
x_linkehird: Really ?10:36
ehird...i guess debian was your first distro10:36
x_linkGreat!10:36
ehirdjust about any distro has something like apt-get10:36
x_linkehird: yes, I'm REALLY ned with Linux and I'm REALLY lame with Linux.10:36
x_linkOkey.10:37
cpk1if i install nvidia-settings it will break nvidia-glx right?10:37
ehirdand after a quick check, ubuntu seems to have 17k packages10:37
ehirddo you need more than 17,000 peices of software? :)10:37
x_linkehird: I didn't like Ubuntu cause it's using GNOME. That's why I picked Kubuntu.10:37
x_linkIs there any other Debian based distros ?10:37
ehirdx_link: i don't like gnome either, yeah10:37
ehirdand MEPIS is one10:37
ehirdbut now that's based on ubuntu10:37
x_linkOkey.10:37
ehirdwhich basically makes it a clone of Kubuntu10:38
x_linkI read on www.distrowatch.com that Xandros and Mepis is the best/easiest distro for beginners.10:38
abattoirehird: edgy has more than 20k ;)10:38
abattoirw/ universe/multiverse enabled10:38
ehirdweird10:38
x_linkI have a big program when it comes to computers.10:38
ehirdi have multiverse and universe enabled10:38
ehirdand it says 17k10:38
x_linkI'm REALLY stupid, I mean really really lame.10:38
abattoirx_link: well, kubuntu targets being easy for the new user as well10:38
x_linkOkey.10:39
x_linkBut is Debian a bad choice ?10:39
ehirdtalking about how stupid you are doesn't help anything does it10:39
ehirdand if you're a noob? stay away from debian and especially gentoo10:39
x_linkThe thing is ehird, I REALLY want to learn Linux better, cause I REALLY love it. But it takes me hours just to understand one thing.10:40
ehirdstick with kubuntu10:40
ehirdit'll help10:40
x_linkI read on distrowatch.com that Debian, Slackware and gentoo are the hardest distros. When I read that then I was considering to maybe change distro. That's why I got Kubuntu.10:40
x_linkOKey.10:41
x_linkI'm on Debian right now.10:41
x_linkI will get a router today or tomorrow. Then I will use Debian on this one and Kubuntu ont he P II. And see which one I will like the most.10:41
x_linkI think I will get a P III or something insted, cause Kubuntu is not running good at all on that P II.10:41
x_linkWell, thanks ALOT guys for the help. I REALLY appreciate it.10:42
x_linkMaybe in 10 years I will be as good as you guys are =)10:42
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ehird10 years ago ... linux was just maturing :P10:43
x_linkehird: Do you know any good site ?10:43
ehirdx_link: for what?10:43
x_linkI'm trying to find good swedish sites about Linux.10:43
x_linkCause the english does it to hard for me.10:43
abattoir!se10:43
ubotuSvensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se10:43
x_linkMy english is not that good.10:43
abattoirx_link: ^^^ people there might know10:44
ehird:)10:44
abattoirthere is also the Kubuntu desktop guide10:44
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x_linkOkey, I want to know about Linux, not just kubuntu.10:44
abattoirwhich i assume is translated into swedish as well10:44
x_linkBut I will try it out, thanks =)10:44
abattoirx_link: yes, since kubuntu *is* linux, people there'd know10:44
x_linkOkey.10:45
x_linkThanks abattoir ! I appreicate it alot !10:45
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abattoirx_link: you're welcome :)10:45
somekoolhi there... any kubuntu live CD yet with KDE developer preview 2 ?10:45
abattoirsomekool: nope10:45
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abattoiratleast not officially10:45
somekoolis it planned? one got release with the first developer preview10:46
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abattoirsomekool: it was??10:46
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felixjetwhats the atributes to tar a folder?10:47
abattoirsomekool: i'm guessing you were confused by the edgy knot cds which were released during the same period10:47
felixjeti forgot >.<10:47
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KomiaPoikahi10:56
KomiaPoikawhat package do i have to install to enable smime validation in kmail?10:56
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ehird"Ubuntu is an ancient african word meaning 'I can't configure Debian.'" <-- rofl11:02
felixjetjajaa11:02
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cpk1hrmm its hard to find a good superkaramba system monitor11:03
KomiaPoikaehird: lol11:03
felixjetcpk1:11:05
felixjeti use kstatus11:05
felixjetgo kde-look and check it11:05
felixjetits easy to modify for ur needs11:05
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fiyawerx!java11:07
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository11:07
abattoirehird: lol... where was that?11:08
abattoircpk1: there are tons of them11:08
ehirdabattoir: random channel topic from /list11:08
cpk1abattoir: i know but the ones i have tried havent been very good so far11:08
abattoircpk1: use the sort by downloads/popularity feature at kde-look11:08
cpk1i want something very similiar to gkrellm11:09
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momalWerid... bluefish that comes with edgy wont open .htaccess files :S... one with dapper did11:09
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cpk1and why doesnt superkaramba let me install from a tar?11:12
abattoircpk1: you have to uncompress it manually11:12
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abattoir(unless you use khotnewstuff)11:12
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ninoanyone know of a good email server??11:15
ninoanyone know of a good email server??11:15
ninolooking to replace Windaz one!!11:15
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cpk1kstatus looks nice but is kind of wide =\11:17
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MRMorefield-ftdoes someone here have Xgl?11:23
MRMorefield-ftcan he help me installing it11:23
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MRMorefield-fti have glX running11:23
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kenny_hi @ll11:24
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kenny_wie kann ich kynaptic unter kubuntu installieren?11:24
etdsdvgfhrtz!de11:25
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de11:25
etdsdvgfhrtzjews lol wtc lol11:26
abattoiretdsdvgfhrtz: apokryphos is here too... and he has ops privs. here too...11:26
abattoirMRMorefield-ft: try #ubuntu-xgl11:27
etdsdvgfhrtzhow does he hack op?11:27
etdsdvgfhrtzi also want op11:27
abattoiretdsdvgfhrtz: you can't... you need to be a contributor to the community, and more importantly well-behaved11:27
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apokryphosand presumably allowed on the network 8)11:28
abattoirheh :P11:28
Godfatherguys g' day11:28
apokryphoshello11:28
Godfatheri have a problem11:28
Godfathermy modem wireless doesn't work11:28
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Godfatherso we have connect a laptop to the adsl modem using the lan wire11:29
Godfatherin this way the laptop works like modem wireless11:29
Godfatherit works!11:29
Godfatherthe prblem is that this laptop uses windows11:30
Godfatherand if we want to connect to it we have to use windows11:30
Godfatherbecause if we use linux we can't see the net!11:30
Godfatheris there anyone could help us??11:30
KomiaPoikasettings/network/interface11:32
Godfatheryeah i have just tried11:32
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Godfatherbut i have the same problem11:32
Godfatherprobaby something about peer to peer connection11:33
Godfatherkubuntu has got a wifi tool11:33
visik7I've a problem with edgy and a custom kernel : I've build my custom kernel with the same configure of 2.6.17-10-generic and add only one option ( Compile the kernel with debug info ) and I hadn't remove anything, all works fine slash screen and all the peripherals but if I boot in console nothing is visible expect a blinking cursor and resolution 1400x1050 (setuped via vga=0x348 at kernel boot parameters) doesn't working11:33
MRMorefield-ftwhat is compiz?11:34
Godfatherplease help me11:34
visik7MRMorefield-ft: have you ever heard of xgl ?11:35
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MRMorefield-ftXgl11:38
MRMorefield-ftyea11:38
MRMorefield-fti have11:38
MRMorefield-ftlook here : http://reems.serverthuis.nl/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=4011:38
visik7MRM compiz is the window manager that do all the fancy11:39
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belohorecasdfa11:42
KabalAnyone XMMS expert here?11:42
Kabalmy XMMS won't play a playlist.. it's plays the first number in the list.. after first song is done it stops.11:42
Kabaleven if I drag a whole folder to xmms.. it will only play one number than stops.. I have to play the next song manually11:42
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[Nige] hi all11:43
B-Minushello11:43
B-Minusin which language are most KDE apps writen ?11:43
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B-Minusc++ ?11:43
belohorechello11:44
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[Nige] B-Minus, I thought they used glad11:44
[Nige] glade11:44
Kabalwho can help me with the XMMS problem?11:45
Prince_of_Darkfuck11:45
Prince_of_Darkis in english11:46
visik7xmms is old and ugly11:46
Prince_of_Darki wont something in spain...11:46
visik7Kabal: why would you want use it ?11:46
visik7Prince_of_Dark: join ubuntu-se11:46
Prince_of_Darkexcuse me11:46
visik7-es11:46
Prince_of_Darkbut it doesn`t exist kubuntu-es???11:47
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visik7Prince_of_Dark: I don't think / dunno11:47
Prince_of_Darkoks visik711:47
Prince_of_Darkif xmmx is old and ugly... wath do you use to play music?11:48
Kabalvisik7: eeh what kind of question is that? why not? is there a better?11:48
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visik7Kabal: amarok for example11:48
Kabalmy xmms like the same a winamp which rulez all mp3 players on all platforms.. (the ol winamp)11:48
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jerpI'm having a problem with an install of a deb file,  In console I keep getting .... /usr/bin/dpkg: /usr/bin/dpkg: cannot execute binary file11:49
visik7as you want11:49
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MuJxmms2 <311:49
Kabalvisik7: I use maybe 10% of the Amarok program11:49
visik7Kabal: first of all amarok is written in kde11:49
visik7and for kde11:50
visik7while xmms is an old gtk1 app11:50
KabalKaffeine too right?11:50
Kabalah ke11:50
KabalXMMS worked for months.. but yesterday it got trouble11:51
Kabalwon't play next song..11:51
B-Minusi just use amarok11:51
B-Minusit works perfect11:51
KabalI'm frustrated that it won't work like usual11:51
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Kabalcause I don;t know how to resolve the problem11:51
visik7Kabal: what's the problem ?11:52
kayi have installe vmware now i wanna have sound there too in it but i have to know where the physical sound adapter is how can i find it??11:52
Kabalwhen I put 4 MP3's in the playlist,, XMMS will play the first song and stops after that..11:53
Kabalit will not continue playing the other 3 songs11:53
Kabaleven with .pls or .m3u files11:53
visik7try to remove .xmms in your home you'll loose all your settings but maybe it will solve the problem11:54
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Kabalvisik7: Oke I will try that11:55
Kabalbrb11:55
B-Minushow is the apple - like quicklaunch bar called ?11:56
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B-Minushmm11:57
Jucato!kxdocker | B-Minus11:58
ubotukxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB11:58
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Kabalvisik7: I removed the .xmms folder and started xmms.. it created a new .xmms folder and it works again :)11:59
Kabalvisik7: thanx11:59
B-MinusJucato: tnx11:59
cpk1boo xmms11:59
cpk1i like amarok so much better11:59
B-Minusme too12:00
B-Minusamarok is even beter then windows winamp12:00
KomiaPoikaeven xmms is bettar than winamp12:00
B-Minus:p12:00
alexiconamarok++12:01
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Jucatochoice++12:01
alexiconhrm i havent seen this before... looking in kcontol at my mouse [as its not working properly]  and it says it knows ive got a logitech mouse install but at compile time "it was not possible to access ths mouse". This is probably caused by a permissions problem it carries on to say @_@12:02
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B-Minusanyone using kxdocker here ?12:06
blackflagis it possible to see the boot messages during booting on edgy? Is there a key- combination?12:06
Kabalall you Amarok fanboys don't know what it's all about with the ol skool winamp12:06
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B-Minuslol12:06
B-Minusi used xmms also a long time12:07
B-Minusbut amarok is just better to use12:07
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soulrideri just insatlled kxdocker12:07
soulriderbut it wont load12:07
B-Minushmm12:07
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soulrideri dont ahve composite extensions apparently12:08
KabalB-Minus: why is amarok just better?12:08
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alexiconKabal: amarok is the best12:09
alexiconit does everything and it looks sweet while doing it12:09
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MRMorefield-ftgksudo gedit /usr/bin/startxgl.sh12:09
MRMorefield-ftgksudo does not work for me12:09
MRMorefield-ftwhat is the other command for creating a file?12:09
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JucatoMRMorefield-ft: use "kdesu"12:09
JucatoMRMorefield-ft: kdesu kate /usr/bin/startxgl.sh12:10
JucatoMRMorefield-ft: gksudo and gedit are GNOME/Ubuntu commands12:10
alexiconok i had to kill adept in the middle of trying to install java 1.5 because their licensing stuff killed the update. now whenever i try to run apt, it says dpkg is still being used12:10
alexiconi see the dpkg process there, can i kill it?12:10
Jucato!adept crash fix | alexicon12:10
ubotualexicon: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'12:10
alexiconor is there some command i can run to flush it through12:10
alexiconta very much12:11
B-MinusKabal: for an example : try to stream radio with xmms, it only supports a few formats .. amarok supports them all12:11
PensacolaI'm having some problems configuring kubuntu to connect to my wireless school network12:11
alexiconthats a handy trick12:11
Jucatoalexicon: usually, "sudo dpkg --configure -a" is enough12:12
alexiconta12:12
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B-Minusok12:13
B-Minusi want to make a program that can read xml files and uploads it to a webspace, what are my choices ?12:13
B-Minusi think c++ is a little too hard for this12:14
alexiconuse ruby12:14
B-Minushmm12:14
B-Minusnever used it12:14
B-Minus:(12:14
alexiconits fun :)12:14
B-Minusi dont even have it12:14
B-Minuslol12:14
alexiconhttp://tryruby.hobix.com/12:14
alexiconfunfunfun!!!12:15
alexiconin kubuntu not having something is never much of an issue :P12:15
B-Minusheh12:15
B-Minusare there any projects made with ruby ?12:15
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alexiconyea!! loads!12:16
alexiconruby is super!12:16
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B-Minuslol12:18
KannixHi!12:18
osh_B-Minus: Python is also a great choice. Or Ruby. Good choice too. Or Perl if you don't like structure... ;-)12:18
B-Minusare you someone hired from ruby ?12:18
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B-Minushe12:18
alexiconlol12:18
MRMorefield-ftwhat is the kde window file?12:18
rolandohola12:18
B-Minusi mean12:18
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rolandohow can i force to remove a package?12:18
B-Minusim doing the ruby tutorial on the webpage its like WTF12:18
alexiconhttp://poignantguide.net/ruby/ B-Minus!12:18
MRMorefield-ftthis is the gnome file /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop12:19
rolandocuz its broken and i cant install or remove new packages12:19
KannixWhat is the better way to change from Ubuntu/Gnome to Kubuntu/KDE? Just uninstall all Gnome stuff and install all KDE stuff, or is it better to reinstall from scratch?12:19
alexiconyeah Kannix basically12:19
alexiconjust install gnome or kde or whatever you want to use12:19
alexiconyou dont even have to remove the other one12:19
alexiconuse one one day the other the next12:19
alexiconinstall more!12:19
jerphow do you save a file opened in nano12:19
jerp?12:20
alexiconyou choose your session at the login screen, kde, gnome, fvwm etc12:20
khirrhow can i configure my webcam?12:20
Kannixalexicon: Won't the window managers "collide"? For example, is KDM or GDM used for login, etc.12:20
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rolandoany ideas how to remove a broken package?12:21
alexiconnah Kannix KDM will stay KDM or GDM as GDM12:21
alexiconbut you can add more window managers to the list12:21
Kannixalexicon: Ok, so I install KDE without KDM :)12:21
alexiconyep!12:21
KomiaPoikasmime is greyed out in kmail, what packages do i miss to get them enabled?12:21
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jerpnobody knows how to save a file opened in nano?  don't tell me this is the blind leading the blind12:23
Kannixalexicon: ok, thanks. But lets say I am a little tight on Diskspace and wanted to get rid of Gnome for the sake of KDE. How would I do that the easiest way?12:23
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Kabaljerp: CTRL+X12:23
alexiconhrmm kannix, id be careful gnome has ties with gtk and such ive never tried removing it in kubuntu12:23
jerpkabal, thanks I was wondering what the ^ signified12:23
Kabal:)12:24
JucatoKannix: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde and http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde12:24
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Kannixalexicon: So you cannot have KDE without Gnome?12:24
Jucatojerp: ^ = Ctrl key in most keyboard shortcuts12:24
alexiconyeah kannix you can12:24
alexiconbut im not sure which gnome file you need to uninstall12:24
alexicongnome-base or something perhaps12:24
alexiconbut i dont know what implications that has on your gtk set12:24
JucatoKannix: the first link is how to install KDE/Kubuntu on Ubuntu, the second link is how to remove GNOME/Ubuntu12:25
alexiconcos ive removed gnome before and gotten all sorts of gtk theme problems when i didnt do it properly12:25
KannixJucato: thanks!12:25
Kannixalexicon: That's why I want to do it properly :)12:25
alexiconheh indeed :)12:25
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jerp<--------------- es mucho "newbo" Jucato12:25
alexiconlol12:26
Jucato:P12:26
draremhow do you tar something?  I tried tar -cv test.bz2 test   and i get a bunch of garbage12:26
visik7I've a problem with edgy and a custom kernel : I've build my custom kernel with the same configure of 2.6.17-10-generic and add only one option ( Compile the kernel with debug info ) and I hadn't remove anything, all works fine slash screen and all the peripherals but if I boot in console nothing is visible expect a blinking cursor and resolution 1400x1050 (setuped via vga=0x348 at kernel boot parameters) doesn't working12:26
jerp:) thanks for bearing with me12:26
Jucatodrarem: um.. tried using Ark?12:26
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draremno12:26
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JucatoArk is like the Winzip/WinRAR of KDE12:27
draremack.. which format to use12:27
drarembz2? tar?12:27
freewillwhat must install for nfs to work?12:27
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alexicontar cvf file.tar file12:27
Jucatoyour choice drarem. as long as you have the proper utility installed, you can do anything, even .rar :)12:28
alexicontar and gz is the usual combo drarem12:28
Jucatobtw, .tar is just a tarball archive, .tar.gz is a Gzip'd tarball12:28
alexiconbz and gz for compression12:28
Jucatoafaik, bz2 doesn't tar the files anymore12:29
alexiconhrmmm --bzip now?12:29
freewillwhat package must install for nfs to work?12:29
alexiconbzip212:29
alexiconhrm12:29
Jucato!nfs | freewill12:29
ubotufreewill: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.12:29
Jucatogotta go :)12:29
rolandohow can i force apt-get to install a package?12:30
draremthanks, it works good12:30
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alexiconapt-get -f install12:30
alexiconrolando ^12:30
rolandoalexicon: cant do that12:31
KannixJucato, alexicon: Soo, downloading kubuntu-desktop stuff right now. 1/2 GB.12:31
alexicon^_^12:31
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pablo__hola que tal12:32
rolandoits ok, nevermind magically my problem autosolved12:32
alexiconheh12:32
rolando:P12:33
rolandolaterz12:33
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alexiconummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm12:33
alexiconadept is gone12:33
alexiconafter sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a12:33
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alexiconwtf12:34
alexiconummm12:35
alexiconadept is gone12:35
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B-Minusalexicon: im doing the ruby tutorial, is there some ruby editor or something or do we have to put it all in nano12:40
B-Minusi would like auto completion etc12:40
B-Minusand help etc12:40
alexicontheres a kdevelop ruby editor!12:40
alexicon:D12:40
B-Minuslol12:40
B-Minusyou are too enthousiastic about this12:40
alexicon:DDD12:41
wildchild!samba12:41
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT12:41
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ninodoes anyone know a good email server for linux12:46
alexiconsendmail?12:46
alexiconoh yeah once upon a time i was fixing my mouse12:47
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ninoemail server where windows clients can connect to to dowload their email!12:47
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tdnIs there an IRC channel for questions about JuK? Or is this channel the place to get JuK specific help?12:50
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B-Minusalexicon:  have you made anything in ruby !!!01:00
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freewill!ftp|freewill01:08
ubotufreewill: FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd01:08
freewillwhat is a nice ftp server? perveredly one with gui?01:09
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freewillvsftpd is complex i think,,,01:09
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fumbalahHi, Does anyone else in here have a dell laptop they are running kubuntu on?01:19
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kokoko1hi, to run GTK application what should i have to install?01:21
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Jucatokokoko1: just install the app, and everything else that it needs will be installed by it (presuming you use apt-get, Adept or Synaptic to install)01:22
kokoko1Jucato, okay see this error01:22
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kokoko1root@thrall-laptop:~# gimp-2.201:22
kokoko1GIMP could not initialize the graphical user interface.01:22
kokoko1Make sure a proper setup for your display environment exists.01:22
Jucatokokoko1: try running it as a regular user01:22
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kokoko1Jucato, thanks :)01:25
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kokoko1Jucato, do you know how to minimaze app. using keyboard shortcut?01:25
Jucatokokoko1: a single app, or all apps? Ctrl+Alt+D = Show Desktop01:26
kokoko1single01:26
Jucatoah.. hm.. tricky...01:26
Jucato(in short, I don't know...)01:26
kokoko1Show desktop is fine also :)01:27
kokoko1thanks01:27
leandroHelo!01:28
Alter-Egoi need to wipe and combine some partitions and expand some others, what command line utility does this for me?01:30
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MuFFin_hey all01:30
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lars__hi01:33
lars__anyone here?01:34
Jucatono. just us ghosts :)01:34
lars__:-)01:34
MuFFin_yep01:34
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MuFFin_Got a Problem with AmaroK: The program only plays oggs but no mp3s :-(01:35
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Jucatothat's natural. you have to install codecs for mp301:35
Jucato(and for other proprietary formats)01:36
Jucato!mp3 MuFFin_01:36
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mp3 MuFFin_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:36
MuFFin_yes but what codec? I installed some already01:36
Jucato!mp3 | MuFFin_01:36
ubotuMuFFin_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:36
lars__sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs01:36
JucatoMuFFin_: "libxine-extracodecs" from multiverse01:36
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MuFFin_ah ok thanks01:37
leandroHELO ANDRIS!!01:38
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leandroARE YOU BRAZILIAN?01:39
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orionhi01:40
orionI use gnome, and trying to build a kde-based app, Klear, it requires kde headers.. so which package I should choose to intsall from synaptic01:40
orionany ideas ?01:41
Jucatoorion: kde-devel01:41
orionMake sure you have qt, libxine and kde headers installed.01:41
orionok01:41
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orionwow01:42
orionalot of things will be installed01:43
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orionhow much size it makes any ideas ?01:43
cpk1umm how would I use sed to remove (r) from a result01:43
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orionanyway thanks01:43
Jucatoorion: apt-get will tell you how much (or Adept)01:44
cpk1i have "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'model name' | sed -e 's/.*: //' | tail --lines=1"but want to take (r) out of the result as well01:44
orionit wont be installed01:44
orionit refused01:44
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orionhmm01:45
Jucatowhy?01:45
orionany idea if a binary package for this dvb app Klear available ?01:45
JuJuBeeCan someone help me figure out why my screensavers are not working anymore?01:45
orionI tried to find one for kubuntu, debian.. but couldnt find one01:45
JucatoJuJuBee: did you disable power saving in the Monitor & Display settigns?01:46
Jucatoer.. settings...01:46
JuJuBeeNot that I recall, I will check01:46
JucatoJuJuBee: if you did, I think it's a bug I heard somewhere... (forget where, or where the bug report is)01:47
JuJuBeeIt is not disabled, set to 30 minutes...01:47
Jucatohm...01:47
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JuJuBeeWhen I go to the screen saver settings and click on a screensaver, it wont show in the preview window, nor will it appear when I hit test.01:49
Alter-Ego!format01:49
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks01:49
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SHRIKEEhi there, is anyone familiar with quanta?01:52
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tdnHow is the correct way to install Kubuntu if I only have an Ubuntu 6.10 CD?02:02
tdnCan I boot on the Ubuntu CD and to an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and then click the Install icon?02:02
Jucatotdn: no02:03
tdnOr will I have to install Ubuntu first and then do an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?02:03
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tdnI would like to *not* install all that gnome stuff that I am not using.02:03
Jucatoyes you have to install Ubuntu first. but if you could, download the Kubuntu CD instead02:03
tdnJucato, yeah, I know. But I do not have any blank discs.02:03
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dude_HI GUYS02:04
dude_jucato !02:04
Jucatotdn: you have the Ubuntu 6.10 Desktop CD or the Alternate Install CD?02:04
Jucatohi dude_02:04
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dude_jucato: im running beryl :)02:04
dude_abattoir !02:04
tdnJucato, I have the Ubuntu 6.10 LTS Desktop CD.02:04
Jucatodude_: finally took the plunge, eh? how is it?02:04
Jucatotdn: ah... :(02:04
tdnJucato, the one in the red cardboard cover.02:04
dude_abattoir: beryl is up and running02:04
dude_jucato: cool but limited02:05
MuFFin_Ehm sorry, but sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs doesnt work though I uncommented the multiverse lines in sources.list02:06
JucatoMuFFin_: you uncommented the wrong line. actually, you need to add "multiverse"02:07
Jucato!multiverse | MuFFin_02:07
dude_jucato: what is the command to killa an app, my kaffeine is not working again02:07
ubotuMuFFin_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:07
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Jucatodude_: hm... killall <appname> ?02:07
Tm_Tdude_: "killall kaffeine"02:07
MuFFin_!multiverse02:07
dude_tnx02:07
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:07
Tm_TJucato: Hrrr, young and fast. :(02:07
Jucatoor Ctrl+Alt+Esc...02:07
JucatoTm_T: the advantage of youth :P02:08
Jucatoand of almost a years worth of typing classes :P02:08
Tm_TI did forgot that.02:08
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MuFFin_Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig02:09
MuFFin_Abhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig02:09
MuFFin_Paket libxine-extracodecs ist nicht verfgbar, wird aber von einem anderen02:09
MuFFin_Paket referenziert. Das kann heien, dass das Paket fehlt, dass es veraltet02:09
MuFFin_ist oder nur aus einer anderen Quelle verfgbar ist.02:09
MuFFin_E: Paket libxine-extracodecs hat keinen Installationskandidaten02:09
Jucato!pastebin | MuFFin_02:09
ubotuMuFFin_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:09
hazard*testing x2x*02:09
hazardhoray, it seems to be working!02:09
JucatoMuFFin_: you need to add "multiverse" to the line that looks something like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe" (if you're on edgy)02:10
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WaTt92There's somebody can help me?02:11
WaTt92Can anybody help me?02:11
Jucato!ask02:11
ubotuDon't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)02:11
WaTt92ok02:12
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WaTt92KUbuntu is avable in Italian?02:12
Jucato!it02:12
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!02:12
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WaTt92Thanks02:12
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carloshola02:14
kokoko1can i ask tbird question here (i'm running it on kubuntu02:14
kokoko1that why the hell time shown by tbird doesn't follow system time style ?02:14
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zerozeroi'm trying to install amarok on kubuntu (dapper) and I'm getting an error that says "amarok: Depends: libifp4 but it is not installable"02:16
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zerozerowhat should I do?02:17
Jucatozerozero: did you add anything to your sources.list?02:17
zerozeroyes02:17
Jucatozerozero: what did you add?02:18
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zerozerodeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main02:18
Jucatozerozero: did you enable dapper-backports as instructed?02:20
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zerozerono, i didn'02:20
zerozerot02:20
zerozeroi didn't see that in the instruction script from their site02:21
Jucatowell, the instructions for Amarok 1.4.3 (the latest in Dapper) says: "Important:  you need to enable dapper-backports to be able to install Amarok 1.4.3."02:21
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zerozerowhere did you see that?02:22
zerozeroi'm on their istallationhow too page02:22
Jucatothe Kubuntu.org page02:22
zerozerooooh02:22
Jucatohttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.3.php02:22
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visik7about amarok02:23
visik71.4.4 has a bug with lyrics02:23
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zerozeroi'm just hunting for a good mp3 player02:27
zerozeroit doesn't have to be amarok02:27
Jucatozerozero: don't worry. if there really is a bug with 1.4.4, it's not available in Dapper :P02:27
zerozeroi added that back port, ran update and I get the same error02:28
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Jucatozerozero: can you pastebin your sources.list?02:28
Jucato!pastebin | zerozero02:28
ubotuzerozero: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)02:28
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SHRIKEEis there a way to have the 6th and 7th button on a mouse behave the same way in konqueror as they do in firefox? (forward and back) ?02:30
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JorixBartsd keeps crashing, I updated several things and now most sound doesn't work, including amarok02:33
JorixBdowngrading artsd didn't seem to have any effect02:33
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LockUpI need a program to export a document to PDF/X-1a format. Where can I found it?02:36
JucatoLockUp: KWord exports to PDF. Or perhaps most apps has a "Print to PDF" feature in the Print options02:36
fdovingopenoffice exports to pdf too.02:37
JucatoPrint to file (PDF)02:37
fdovingafaik only kde programs can use the kdeprint pdf pseudo printer.02:37
Jucatofdoving: ah really. never used it (yet)...02:37
fdovingi use the openoffice export feature ~ once a month. :)02:37
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LockUpPDF/X1a also?02:37
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fdovingwhat is X1A ?02:38
fdoving(i'm more into .txt and .conf)02:38
LockUpIt's a PDF version for production.02:38
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fdovingno idea.02:38
LockUpScribus supports exporting to PDF/X-3 but probably not to PDF/X-1a02:39
JorixBwhat package could be the cause of artsd crashing all the time if I have kde sound on. No kde app sound works including amarok02:40
fdovingmy openoffice exports to:  PDF document, version 1.402:40
fdovingthat's what 'file some.pdf' says.02:41
SHRIKEEis there a way to have the 6th and 7th button on a mouse behave the same way in konqueror as they do in firefox? (forward and back) ?02:41
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Th3_Cr0up13Rhelooooooooo02:42
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pansyhi folks02:44
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pansydoes anybody know a ncurses based programm to specify which scripts are run in which run-level?02:45
Th3_Cr0up13Ru know how on your terminal it says username@username/folder where you are>02:45
Th3_Cr0up13Ri wanna change that to just the folder where you are> i know there is something to do with PS1 but i dont remember exactly02:46
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Th3_Cr0up13Rcan anyone remind me a little02:46
Th3_Cr0up13R?02:46
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Allen:D02:46
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igorwhat's the program...similar as Late in Kubuntu...but to Ubuntu...02:49
JucatoLate?02:49
igoror any program to program in C...C++02:49
igorsorry02:49
igorKate02:49
igor:T02:49
JucatoUbuntu/GNOME = gedit02:49
igor...thanks...02:49
JucatoO_o02:49
Th3_Cr0up13Rany1 remembers how to change that?02:50
JucatoTh3_Cr0up13R: you could try asking in #bash?02:50
h3sp4wnTh3_Cr0up13R: PROMPT="[%n@%m% ]  (%c%)%# " (for zsh)02:51
Jucatoor... you could wait for h3sp4wn to whip up some obscure black magic command :)02:52
Th3_Cr0up13Rh3sp4wn: cool, how would you search for it in google02:52
Th3_Cr0up13Rbash prompt change02:52
Th3_Cr0up13Ror something like that?02:52
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h3sp4wnTh3_Cr0up13R: I would look in man bash02:53
h3sp4wnTh3_Cr0up13R: /PS1 (to search for the right part)02:53
Th3_Cr0up13Rsounds good02:53
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h3sp4wnTh3_Cr0up13R: Then that says see PROMPTING (so I would type /PROMPTING02:54
Th3_Cr0up13Rthanx h3sp4wn, ill try reading that02:54
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felixjetey, i was upgrading to edgy, i did dist-upgrade and i left it there cause it was 1.3GB download. now i back and i have this on console:02:57
felixjetFailed to fetch http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libgpg-error/libgpg-error-dev_1.2-1_i386.deb  Connection timed out [IP: 195.248.90.38 80] 02:57
felixjetE: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?02:57
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gnomefreakfelixjet: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:59
h3sp4wnTh3_Cr0up13R: the \W is the one you want03:00
h3sp4wnTh3_Cr0up13R: (the current one probably uses \w03:00
Th3_Cr0up13Ryep i just saw it03:00
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Th3_Cr0up13Rgot a list with lots of them and how to make it permanent03:01
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Th3_Cr0up13Rdont wana do this al the time03:01
gigg865How would I rebuild the APT Database for the Adept Updater? I managed to destroy mine, and I get an error staiting that the APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by an incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. I tried running apt-setup and apt-get update, but those just gave me errors.03:01
h3sp4wnmake sure you use .bashrc not .profile03:01
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Jucato!adept fix crash | gigg86503:02
ubotuadept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB03:02
Alter-Egomy home partition is corrupted, and i need to relabel ? /home from /home to something else and relabel another partition in another drive as /home so ubuntu will boot03:02
abattoir!adept crash fix | gigg86503:03
ubotugigg865: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'03:03
abattoir;)03:03
h3sp4wnAlter-Ego: Why ?03:03
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h3sp4wnAlter-Ego: Have you tried using fsck on the corrupted partition03:03
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KannixHi all03:03
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Alter-Egoh3sp4wn: yes03:03
h3sp4wnAlter-Ego: Hardware fault ?03:04
Alter-Egoi can mount the partition, i can see it, i can copy files, but it is in read only mode03:04
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Alter-Egoh3sp4wn: i03:04
Alter-Egoi'm not sure, because i can access other partitions on the same drive03:04
Alter-Egoi do know the os cannot read superblocks from that partition03:05
gigg865I am sure I actually screwed something up though. I un-commented some comments, and did not realize I did that. I am new to this though, and I do not remember where I made those changes.03:05
KannixI read somewhere, you could enable mous gestures for Konqueror in the "accessability -- configure hotkey" settings. However, I have no clue which setting actually enables mouse gestures. All I find are things like "Keyboard input (simple)" and "Generic".03:05
JorixBartsd causes segfault03:06
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JorixBand keeps crashing if I turn on kde sound03:06
KannixAll seems to be just keyboard related, no mouse gestures.03:06
h3sp4wnAlter-Ego: fsck should be able to fix that03:06
gigg865I made the changes in the adept package manager user interface, but I forget where I made those changes.03:06
h3sp4wnAlter-Ego: If you can read files from it should be ok03:06
Alter-Egoh3sp4wn: k, i can try again03:06
Th3_Cr0up13Ri found the file but its got too many SP1s03:07
h3sp4wnAlter-Ego: umount it first and do it from recovery mode03:07
gigg865I almost thing I would nead to rebuild all the parts of the adept manager , since I am not sure exactly what I hosed up :(03:07
Th3_Cr0up13Ri found the one that says change colour and all this lot03:07
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Th3_Cr0up13Rdo i delete all the other stuff or just alter some of it?03:07
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gigg865I finally got several other things working, so I would hate to have to re-install everything03:08
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Alter-Egoh3sp4wn: device I/O error on device /dev/hdb303:09
Th3_Cr0up13RPS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\] \u@\h\[\033\] :\[\033[01;34m\] \w\[\033\] \$ '03:09
Th3_Cr0up13Ri got this03:09
Th3_Cr0up13Rwhich part do i change03:09
Th3_Cr0up13R?03:09
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Th3_Cr0up13Ri cannot make it out03:09
h3sp4wnI can't either (not sure whether the unicode is messed up or not for me here)03:10
Th3_Cr0up13Rdo i just change the little w to capital03:10
h3sp4wnthat should work03:10
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syrushelp! kwallet is not saving the passwords to the .kwl file! After a restart all passwords are lost.... what can i do?03:10
Alter-Egodelete kwallet03:11
Th3_Cr0up13RAlter-Ego:  how to ?03:11
syrus:-(03:11
Alter-Egosyrus: actually don't mind me03:11
BulwinkleHowdy all...  I'm experiencing some VERY slow graphic performance on one of my PCs running 6.10...  Should I be installing the graphics driver from the Nvidia site or the nvidia package from apt-get?03:11
syrusAlter-Ego: ???03:11
Alter-Egoi would like to dump kwallett myself03:11
Th3_Cr0up13Rh3sp4wn:  that didnt work03:11
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h3sp4wnThat looks a right mess03:12
BluesKajHowdy All! :)03:12
syrusok... has anyone an idea why kwallet isn't saving the passwords?03:12
Th3_Cr0up13Rtell me about it03:12
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h3sp4wnPS1="\u@\h (\W) $"03:13
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ludushello i ned help03:13
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ludusi want a kubuntu 6.0603:14
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h3sp4wnsend for it from shipit or download it03:14
ludusboa tarde alguem que me possa ajudar tenho o kubuntu 6.06 e ao executar um exe no wine ocorre um erro "external exception 8000101""03:14
Hawkwindludus: Try asking in English please :)03:15
ludusok03:15
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ludushello i want a kubuntu 6.06 and when i execute exe in wine occurs the next error "external exception"03:16
h3sp4wnTh3_Cr0up13R: PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\] \u@\h\[\033\] :\[\033[01;34m\] \W\[\033\] \$ '03:16
h3sp4wnTh3_Cr0up13R: (just that works fine here) green prompt blue writing03:16
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jobless_hey i am having problems installing kubuntu on a dell xps 70003:17
jobless_the installation just freezes!03:17
abattoirvenkat_ : installing again?03:18
abattoirjobless_: installing again?03:18
jobless_yeah03:18
jobless_installing on my desktop ..abattoir03:18
abattoirjobless_: at which stage?03:18
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jobless_i just hit start or install03:18
Th3_Cr0up13Rh3sp4wn: i got black font green writting03:18
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ludushello i want a kubuntu 6.06 and when i execute exe in wine occurs the next error "external exception" somebody help-me03:18
jobless_i get nothing but a blinking cursor of it says loading the kernel03:18
jobless_i get nothing but a blinking cursor of it says loading the kernel abattoir03:19
abattoirjobless_: hmm... try the safe mode thing03:19
Th3_Cr0up13Ri changed the w to W and it still does nothing03:19
h3sp4wnTh3_Cr0up13R: Its working fine here03:19
jobless_abattoir: no use!:(03:19
abattoirjobless_: was the cd burnt properly?03:19
jobless_i tried with linux acpi=off too .. abattoir03:19
Th3_Cr0up13Rhehe what if i delete all the other debian chroot and all this03:19
jobless_yes .. the same one i used to install on my laptop  abattoir03:20
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abattoirjobless_: hmm... someone had a similar problem earlier... turned out they need to upgrade bios firmware03:20
ludusi want execute exe making by Delphi603:20
jobless_yes i got this pnp bios error and tried even with pnpbios=off too ..!! abattoir03:20
jobless_the installation freezes even then! abattoir03:20
abattoirjobless_: is there such an option? pnpbios=off ?03:21
jobless_yes i saw it on the net somewhere ..! abattoir03:21
KannixOk, found out why mouse gestures where not working. They are disabled globally in the setup and you have to change that, no matter how many gestures you just defined. I wish there was a warning like "You just recorded a mouse gesture. Be sure to enable mouse gestures, so you can use it."03:21
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jobless_abattoir: i tried if there were any firmware upgrades on the dell site .. but no use ..!03:22
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abattoirjobless_: hmm.. let me search dell xps 700 huh?03:23
jobless_dell xps/dimension 700 abattoir03:23
jobless_abattoir: has it got to do with some hardware problem?03:23
abattoirjobless_: don't think so... let me check03:24
jobless_i can give you the list of hardware if you want .. abattoir03:24
jobless_abattoir: ok03:24
syrushelp! kwallet is not saving the passwords to the .kwl file! After a restart all passwords are lost.... what can i do?03:24
Hawkwindsyrus: Must be running Edgy I'd assume as it's a known issue from what I hear03:24
tdnKdm starts up at 2048x1536 but my monitor can only handle 1600x1200@85Hz. How do I make it use 1600x1200@85Hz in stead of 2048x1536@60Hz as it does now? Something with /etc/X11/xorg.conf? There are several lines in xorg.conf with "2048x1536" in them.03:25
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syrusHawkwind: i use edgy.... do you knwo what i can do to fix that?03:26
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Hawkwindsyrus: Not sure if there is a fix.  I don't run Edgy so I'm not sure to be honest. I've just heard many state the same problem03:27
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ludushello i want a kubuntu 6.06 and when i execute exe in wine occurs the next error "external exception" somebody help-me03:27
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gigg865can anyone help me with re-installing the adept package manager?03:28
cox37777does anyone know a short cut other than print screen for a screen dump as that button doesnt work on here03:28
Ash-Foxtdn, [k]  -> [system settings]  -> [monitor & display]  -> [administrator mode]  -> [hardware]  -> [configure]  for monitor 1 -> choose correct image format and manually choose correct screen resolution.03:28
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tdnAsh-Fox, no. That does not change kdm's resolution. This only affects the resolution in kde (when the user is logged in).03:29
Th3_Cr0up13Rwhen i change my .bashrc file it after closing it it changes back to normal03:29
Ash-Foxtdn, did you restart X?03:29
Th3_Cr0up13Reven with root pribileges03:29
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tdnAsh-Fox, I did not do what you suggested because this is *not* the way to do it. I know.03:30
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tdnAsh-Fox, it will not work. Also I would like to do this from the console if possible.03:30
jobless_abattoir: any luck?03:30
tdnAsh-Fox, There must be a configuration file that needs to be edited.03:30
cox37777screen print anyone?03:31
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abattoirjobless_: not really03:31
Ash-Foxtdn, if it's just kdm, I'm assuming it could possibly be a theme issue03:31
jobless_abattoir: :( :)03:31
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Ash-Foxtdn, as for setting up X from the console, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:32
tdnAsh-Fox, well... It is not, ok? It is the screen resolution that is wrong. I have experienced this problem before and I forgot how to fix it. I am guessing that I need to edit xorg.conf.03:32
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felixjetdamn, why kubuntu make always all hard...03:33
felixjeti was upgrading to edgy, i did dist-upgrade and now i get this03:33
moi1392hello, does someone know if liblazy is available or intend to be packaged for ubuntu ?03:33
felixjetProcessing was halted because there were too many errors.03:33
felixjetE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)03:33
syrusHawkwind: i can't find anything about this problem with google... do you have an idea what i can do or who i can ask?03:33
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felixjetwhat i do?03:33
abattoirjobless_: d'oh it was your forum post that i was stumbling across03:33
Ash-Foxtdn, I honestly don't have any monitors that have crazy resolutions like you do, so I'm not sure if a simple x reconfiguration is possible, since it may or may not display the correct resolutions.03:34
Hawkwindsyrus: Google for the Kubuntu-users mailing list archives.  I think it's been mentioned there IIRC03:34
moi1392felixjet: try "sudo apt-get -f install" and aste the errors03:34
jobless_abattoir: was there a reply?!03:34
abattoirjobless_: check it yourself :P03:34
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abattoirjobless_: try asking at #ubuntu , someone there might know03:34
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BulwinkleCan anyone help me with an Nvidia card not running GL extensions on 6.1003:35
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jobless_abattoir: no reply :( ok will post the same thing on ubuntu ..!03:36
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dennisterg' morning03:36
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dennisterabattoir: :) i'm very glad to see u. as usual, i have a serious problem i can't find any fixes for in my readings/searches03:37
MRMorefield-ftberyl or compiz?03:37
MRMorefield-ftwhich one shud i choose?03:37
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freewill!ati|freewill03:38
ubotufreewill: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:38
HawkwindMRMorefield-ft: Most will probably suggest beryl currently03:38
HawkwindMRMorefield-ft: However, linux is all about choice, so it's up to you03:38
syrusHawkwind: hm, can't find such a problem on the mailinglist, too..... don't you have an idea what kind of problem it could be?03:39
dennisterin system serrings, my user management module can't be loaded...so i'm having trouble giving mythtv r/w permissions to a directory03:39
Hawkwindsyrus: I don't run Edgy as I stated.  So I don't know, just know I've read about it on the ML from time to time03:39
Hawkwinddennister: Give it perms from the CLI, much easier03:39
dennisterk...how?03:40
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dennisteri've already tried chowning it, doesn't work03:40
jobless_hey abattoir: one more problem .. i am connecting to two wireless networks .. one at home and one at school ..but should load all the configuration settings everytime manually for each network?03:41
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Hawkwinddennister: sudo chmod 700 /directory ?03:41
h3sp4wnfelixjet: run - dpkg -C03:41
Hawkwinddennister: chown is ownership, chmod is perms03:41
h3sp4wnfelixjet: fix or remove the broken packages (if you have used any unofficial repos your chances of any easy clean upgrade are vastly reduced)03:42
ludushello i want a kubuntu 6.06 and when i execute exe in wine occurs the next error "external exception" somebody help-me03:42
h3sp4wnjobless_: You can set up 2 networks in wpasupplicant.conf (include it from /etc/network/interfaces) using the /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz03:42
Hawkwindludus: Have you tried asking in #WineHQ since it's a wine question you have ?03:42
dennisterahhh...it seems to be working :)03:43
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jobless_h3sp4wn : hey can you point out to some resource explaining that or could you explain that to me? i did not understand that properly!03:44
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osloin .kde/autostart how make an apps run after 20 sec for example ?03:44
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h3sp4wnjobless_: Mode #2: Roaming Mode (in the above file explains it all)03:44
dennisterHawkwind: spoke too soon. not working, just a verbose backtrace03:44
h3sp4wnjobless_: zcat /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz | less03:45
jobless_h3sp4wn : in the readme?!03:45
Hawkwinddennister: What command did you do exactly ?03:45
h3sp4wnjobless_: where else would it be ?03:45
jobless_h3sp4wn : ok03:45
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dennistersudo chmod 700 /media/MythVid/recordings03:46
dennisterthen i tried to start mythbackend with 'mythbackend -d'03:46
BluesKajMPlayer won't load as WMP substitute like it's supposed to03:47
h3sp4wndennister: Why not ask in #mythtv-users ?03:47
dennisterthat startup script is still telling me that it can't start because mythtv (the user) doesn't have access/permissions to that directory03:47
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sakimythtv hates my soul03:48
dennisterunfortunately, i'm not having much luck with that channel03:48
Hawkwinddennister: Maybe it needs different user perms, which might require chown ?03:48
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dennisterlike i said, i tried chowning that directory. nada03:48
ashutoshhi pople03:48
ashutoshpeoplw03:48
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dennistersince both chowning and chmod are about users and permissions, and the user management itself doesn't work, even cli doesn't work03:49
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dennisternot with user managemnt, anyway03:49
jobless_h3sp4wn : found it ..! reading through it .. does the docs directory contain all the docs for most of the things?03:49
jobless_!zcat03:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about zcat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:50
Hawkwinddennister: Did you do something similar to: chown -R youruser:youruser /directory ?  Replace *youruser* with the login name on your system03:50
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ashutosh#join ltsp03:51
Digital_PioneerHi. I need a little help getting my printing going.03:51
dennisteri even installed nfs, to try to unlock that directory, but when i try to share it, the user managment part of the sharing doesn't work either03:51
Digital_PioneerI've installed the printer (HP DeskJet 3845) and it says it's working, but whenever I print something, it just says "Processing..." forever.03:52
dennisterthat directory is good and locked...even changing options in fstab doesn't work03:52
dennisternot yet...will try now03:52
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MRMorefield-fti have a question03:56
MRMorefield-ftA suggested install of compiz would include the following packages:03:56
MRMorefield-ftcompiz03:56
MRMorefield-ftcompiz-gnome03:56
MRMorefield-ftthis site is telling about gnome03:57
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MRMorefield-ftwhat can i install for kde03:57
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dennisteraha! it worked!03:57
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MRMorefield-ftit worked03:57
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BlackNineHello everyone!03:58
h3sp4wnjobless_: Pretty much03:58
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dennisterno error message at backend startup about mythtv not have access to the directory, and now the frontend is restored to working/not working the way it normally does03:58
h3sp4wnjobless_: zcat just lets you view a .gz file without having to gunzip it first03:58
BlackNineI am having trouble installing kubuntu, anyone wanna help?03:58
dennisterty Hawkwind !!!03:58
h3sp4wnjobless_: actually there is even zless to look at it directly03:59
Hawkwinddennister: You're welcome03:59
visik7edgy doesn't show anyomore unmounted usb keys on the desktop if I don't click mount when I plug it in why ?03:59
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dennisterit was really stumping me, as i'd tried so many things...kinda illogical to have an error message about one system user not having access, and the fix is to give another user access04:00
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giacomo_salve04:00
BlackNineCan anyone help me with installing kubuntu, I normally can do this easly but it gives a wierd error.04:00
MRMorefield-ftwhat is the error04:00
BlackNinehttp://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4782/snapshot1dm4.png04:00
BlackNinescreen shot of it04:00
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MRMorefield-ftdo you have windows on your computer?04:01
BlackNineyeah04:01
Mo-ZWhen upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10.... Do i have to readept java, codecs atc. all over again?04:01
MRMorefield-ftand is it taking the whole partition?04:01
BlackNineyeah04:01
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MRMorefield-ftand you don' t want windows anymore?04:02
MRMorefield-ftor you want to keep windows?04:02
BlackNinei do cause all my stuff is on there04:02
MRMorefield-fthmm04:02
MRMorefield-ftthis will be dificult04:02
dennisteri'm going to have to try and understand nfs locking; it's new to me cause i hadn't used it b4...had stayed away from it in favour of samba cause of other xp box...but mythtv uses nfs locking without nfs even being installed on the system04:02
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MRMorefield-ftyou have to make a second partition04:02
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MRMorefield-ftbut there is a chance it could go wrong04:02
BlackNinethats what i fear04:02
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MRMorefield-ftis there a way to backup everything?04:03
MRMorefield-fton another computer04:03
BlackNineyeah04:03
MRMorefield-ftif you do that it will be easier04:03
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MRMorefield-ftyou can also try making a second partition with the install program04:04
BlackNineI was reading http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=4#fdisk and it seems simple. But I havent backed up my stuff yet so Im not gonna try it yet04:04
MRMorefield-ftthat is smart04:04
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MRMorefield-ftcause there is a chance it goes wrong04:04
neligerhi all04:04
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dennisternow to get an actual livetv picture instead of a black screen...i know my card and ivtv drivers work cause i can get live tv by tuning to one channel with ivtv-tune, and then using mplayer from cli04:05
MRMorefield-ftanyone installed compiz on kde?04:05
neligerdoes anyone know the solutions of this problem : "Xlib: Maximum number of clients reached" ? It will be very nice, Google is not my friend today...04:06
Hawkwind!compiz | MRMorefield-ft04:06
ubotuMRMorefield-ft: Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems04:06
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dennisterbut for now i gtg...my food processor died in the middle of making the crust for my cheescake tart...and i'm due at the office in an hour04:06
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dennisterlater ppls04:07
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BlackNineI do not know why linux hates me today, cause I have installed linux 7-12 times on this computer04:07
dennister:) when all else fails, #kubuntu :)04:07
dennisterand the wonderful people here :)04:07
neligerNo-one know my problem here ? damned04:07
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studentBlackNine: Always the same error?04:08
h3sp4wnBlackNine: Sounds like alot of times04:08
BlackNineyeah04:08
jobless_h3sp4wn : this looks like a lot for me to understand .. maybe i will spend the whole day figuring this out .. sounds fun..:)04:09
BlackNineim taking a risk with my computer04:10
h3sp4wnjobless_: It depends - if your school/work network uses one of the enterprise schemes it becomes alot more complicated04:10
felixjethow to stop ACPI module?04:10
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neligersorry, no-one can help me resolving an xserver error N04:10
neliger?04:10
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neligerfelixjet: /etc/init.d/acpid stop ?04:11
h3sp4wnjobless_: If you are just using wpa psk or wpa2 psk its pretty easy if you are using eap=TLS and certificates its alot more complicated04:11
felixjetya, thanks04:11
felixjetomg, still dont works04:12
felixjet * Loading ACPI modules...                                               [ ok ] 04:12
felixjet * Starting ACPI services...                                                    acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy04:12
felixjetinvoke-rc.d: initscript acpid, action "start" failed.04:12
BlackNinewhat does 37GB equal in MBs?04:12
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jobless_h3sp4wn : hey can i use wpa!! i thought only wep was supported!04:12
jobless_h3sp4wn : i changed my home network to wep thinking so ..!04:12
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h3sp4wnjobless_: You can use wpa (its alot easier to use anyway)04:13
neligerhum... I will be back an other time. I hope an xserver's Guru will come...04:13
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jobless_but my wireless network was not found in the wireless lan manageer in the internet menu when it had wpa! i changed it to wep and then i could find it!04:14
jobless_but my wireless network was not found in the wireless lan manageer in the internet menu when it had wpa! i changed it to wep and then i could find it! h3sp4wn04:14
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felixjet!paste04:14
h3sp4wnneliger: try #xorg04:14
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:14
BlackNineHmmmm, quick question, with fdisk, M = Megabytes?04:14
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felixjethttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/4ODgmM68.html04:15
felixjetplease help with this04:15
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fdovingfelixjet: in konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole) run 'sudo apt-get --purge remove acpid;sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'04:17
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felixjetthanks fdoving04:18
MRMorefield-ftwhere can i get the compiz-kde package?04:18
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h3sp4wnMRMorefield-ft: I thought it was depreciated but #beryl #ubuntu-xgl #xgl may know more04:19
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MRMorefield-ftok04:20
MRMorefield-ftthx04:20
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MRMorefield-ftiam gonna join04:20
h3sp4wnMRMorefield-ft: alot of ubuntites use beryl04:20
jobless_h3sp4wn : hey yesterday i had a problem logging on to my schools network! my school does not use a passkey! But the first time you open a webpage ..a default webpage is opened and we enter our schoold id and password. I was unable to connect to the network in this manner. But when i used windows to connect to the network and then restarted my system into kubuntu .. the network was connected!! do ya know why this is?!04:20
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BlackNineForget Kubuntu, Im installing Solaris again, it will probley be less of a pain in the ass to install.04:21
h3sp4wnjobless_: Your mac address was quite possibly preauthenticated04:21
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h3sp4wnBlackNine: using solaris for a desktop is definately harder to use than kubuntu04:22
jobless_h3sp4wn : i thought so .. but why does it ask for my password when i just restart windows? do you think the lease time expired?!04:22
h3sp4wnBlackNine: try the text mode installer (alternative cd)04:22
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Alter-Egotry dapper04:22
h3sp4wnjobless_: Not sure it could be using some type of enterprise authentication04:23
h3sp4wnjobless_: iwlist eth1 scan04:23
h3sp4wnjobless_: next time you are there and save the screen04:23
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jobless_h3sp4wn : sure04:24
h3sp4wnjobless_: (tells you what its using at least somewhat) - I don't know a web page could be windows only (unless it only works with ie)04:24
h3sp4wnjobless_: (presuming eth1 is the interface)04:24
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jobless_it uses ssl 2.0 for authentication .. i had problem using it as ssl 2.0 (or was it ssl 1.00) is not used by default in ie and firefox!04:25
jobless_h3sp4wn:it uses ssl 2.0 for authentication .. i had problem using it as ssl 2.0 (or was it ssl 1.00) is not used by default in ie and firefox!04:25
h3sp4wnjobless_: Is TLS ssl 2.0 ?04:26
h3sp4wnjobless_: It is used with SSL I know that for something (e.g by gmail)04:26
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h3sp4wnjobless_: Using the enterprise stuff (04:27
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jobless_h3sp4wn : i did not understand wat u meant.. but it uses a verisign certificate that is outdated!04:27
h3sp4wnWell its either ieee8021x or eap you need to use04:28
h3sp4wnBut I would recommend getting a simple wpa or wpa2 config working first before you start messing with that04:28
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jobless_h3sp4wn : will try that ..!04:29
h3sp4wn(getting the certificate into the right format could be a pain)04:29
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jobless_h3sp4wn : i had a problem installing kubuntu on a system in my lab!04:30
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jobless_h3sp4wn : its a dell xps/dimension 70004:30
jobless_h3sp4wn : the installation just freezes!04:31
jobless_any idea why this is?!04:31
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h3sp4wnno idea - use the alternative cd (it works alot better in my experience and fails alot less often)04:31
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jobless_hmm04:31
jobless_it worked well on my laptop which i am using now ..!04:32
jobless_it says some problem with pnp bios and it freezes!04:32
BluesKajwhat player does windows media in kubuntu ...someone remind me pls ?04:32
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h3sp4wndunno I never use the live cd (I think its terrible to use as a live cd - not got any of the useful things for a live cd) and the alternative cd is more reliable04:33
jobless_BluesKaj doesn't vlc do that!?04:33
hollywoodb!wma04:33
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:33
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GladkHi!04:34
IA-OutdoorsI don't see ndisgtk in adept...is there something I'm missing?04:34
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jobless_hmm .. can i do the installation in the same manner?! like not messing with the windows files? the problem is i have only one partition and i need to partition them into 2 more..! h3sp4wn04:34
GladkHad anybody problems with Midnight Commander? I cant find it! Sorry, I am newbee :)04:35
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HawkwindGladk: sudo apt-get install mc04:35
h3sp4wnjobless_: Split the partitions with gparted make the free space and then use the alternative cd04:35
h3sp4wn!info mc04:35
ubotumc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-5 (edgy), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB04:35
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GladkI have DVD, no internet connection. How can I install mc?04:35
jobless_h3sp4wn gparted is for windows?04:35
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h3sp4wnjobless_: You can get a just gparted live cd04:36
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jobless_h3sp4wn just saw it on sourceforge..04:36
h3sp4wnjobless_: You could theoretically use anything to get you the free space (partition magic or whatever or whatever)04:36
prowerHello :> I'm using the previous version of Kubuntu to 6.10...would it be worthwhile to upgrade, or are there any problems with the 6.10 release?04:36
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Hawkwind!info mc04:36
ubotumc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-5 (edgy), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB04:37
jobless_i thought partition magic is not free! h3sp4wn04:37
HawkwindGladk: You need to have internet access, as mc is in the Universe repo04:37
h3sp4wnjobless_: If you want to do it from windows then you need to buy stuff04:37
jobless_h3sp4wn yeah04:37
h3sp4wnjobless_: or just use the gparted live cd (that is all it does)04:37
jobless_h3sp4wn i think i will use gparted04:38
GladkOk, thank you04:38
h3sp4wnjobless_: any gparted after 0.3 should be ok04:38
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TheGateKeeperprower: everyone probable has there own view, but I am sticking with dapper for the time being04:38
prowerTheGateKeeper: Ahh, I see...any particular reason for that, or just your preference?04:38
h3sp4wnGladk: You may have to change the locale to an ISO one from UTF-8 (midnight commander didn't do unicode properly last time I tried it)04:38
jobless_h3sp4wn hey i got a question. .. can we be traced if we download stuff using a bittorrent client?!04:38
HawkwindTheGateKeeper: I second that :)04:39
h3sp4wnjobless_: definately04:39
Hawkwindprower: Lots of users have problems with Edgy, though lots don't.  It's all up to *you* really04:39
jobless_h3sp4wn any way to hide around?04:39
prowerHawkwind: Well, I tested it on one machine and it was buggy as hell, so that was kind of a turn-off ;> I hope the next release is better (LTS I mean)04:39
h3sp4wnjobless_: tor I suppose but it will make your connection dog slow if you set it up wrong04:39
jobless_h3sp4wn tor?04:40
h3sp4wnjobless_: The chances are even though you can be traced unless you are sharing large amounts of stuff they will not bother04:40
h3sp4wn!tor04:40
ubotutor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB04:40
jobless_ok got it h3sp4wn04:40
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TheGateKeeperprower: well I don't trust the upgrade path, & I get the feeling edgy lives up to it's name, untill I actually do it I can't speak from 1st hand experience04:40
jobless_how abt downloading like 200 gb?! in 6 months? h3sp4wn04:41
jobless_is that ok h3sp4wn04:41
prowerTheGateKeeper: Ubuntu's upgrade path in general, you mean? Or the dapper->edgy transition?04:41
h3sp4wnjobless_: I am not a lawyer04:42
h3sp4wnjobless_: or in any law enforcement agency04:42
TheGateKeeperprower: dapper -> edgy as it relates to kubuntu04:42
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jobless_h3sp4wn was just kidding ..!04:43
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jobless_h3sp4wn ;)04:43
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prowerTheGateKeeper: Ahh, okay...yes, that does make sense. If the LTS release is as buggy as Edgy has seemed to be I'm going to have to look for a new distribution, and I'd hate to have to do that :< Dapper's served me very well04:44
felixjeti dont stop getting errors in ACPI while upgrading to edgy :(04:44
felixjet * Loading ACPI modules...                                               [ ok ] 04:44
felixjet * Starting ACPI services...                                                    acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy04:44
felixjetinvoke-rc.d: initscript acpid, action "start" failed.04:44
felixjetdpkg: error processing acpid (--configure):04:44
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hastesaverjobless_, please don't use Tor for high bandwidth applications. It's not designed for that.04:45
jobless_hastesaver  .. anything that can be used for high b/w apps?04:45
felixjeti need some help please04:45
TheGateKeeperprower: I think kanotix is good, I am also putting gentoo on this machine (that is if I can make my damn mind up which desktop to emerge)04:45
hastesaverjobless_, look, just don't do anything illegal, ok? ;-)04:47
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prowerTheGateKeeper: Ahh, Gentoo I used to use a while ago, but I found it grated on my nerves after a while ;> I don't know why, since I'm using PCBSD now, and compiling ports is pretty much the same deal04:48
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jobless_hastesaver .. hmm shud get used to it ..! did not have such issues as internet security back home ..!04:48
jobless_or shud i say the enforcement was not that good..!04:49
felixjetim trying to upgrade to edgy but ACPI module dont stop giving me errors04:49
TheGateKeeperprower: :-)04:49
Bubba_Gump:D04:49
hastesaverjobless_, if you're in the same place, I'm sure enforcement doesn't care about whether you're using Windows or Ubuntu. Or have you moved to a less lawless place? :-)04:50
prowerTheGateKeeper: The only reason that I'm even switching from it now is that, after going through the usual FreeBSD upgrade process (which is supposed to work in PCBSD), I can no longer mount CD's or DVD's :< And all the permissions are set04:50
TheGateKeeperprower: if it drives me nuts I will give arch another try, I have played with it on a test box & it's fast04:50
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felixjet!acpi04:50
ubotuacpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)04:50
felixjet!acpid04:51
ubotuacpid: Utilities for using ACPI power management. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.4-5ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 27 kB, installed size 176 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)04:51
prowerTheGateKeeper: I hear a lot about openSUSE as well, I wonder how that is04:51
jobless_hatesaver .. i am in us now..! so shd be careful!04:51
h3sp4wnfelixjet: running the edgy kernel yet ?04:51
TheGateKeeperprower: ohhh nasty04:51
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felixjeth3sp4wn: no :(04:51
TheGateKeeperprower: will pm you04:51
prowerTheGateKeeper: Really? I've never tried it before...but I can't say I've liked any version of Suse :>04:51
felixjeth3sp4wn: i get an error with ACPI module, and i cant install at all kubuntu-desktop without it04:52
h3sp4wnfelixjet: hash out the invoke-rc.d line in /var/lib/dpkg/acpi.{something}04:52
h3sp4wnfelixjet: probably .preinst04:52
h3sp4wnfelixjet: or just put echo infront of it04:52
felixjeti dont have anything starting acpi04:53
felixjetin dpkg/04:53
h3sp4wnyou do04:53
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h3sp4wndpkg/info/acpi04:53
felixjetuhm what command exactly?04:54
h3sp4wnwherever invoke-rc.d is04:55
h3sp4wnlook ... it will be in either preinst or postinst04:55
felixjetbut i dont have anything starting with "acpi"04:56
felixjetin /var/lib/dpkg/04:56
h3sp4wn /var/lib/dpkg/info04:56
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felixjetacpid.conffiles  acpid.postrm  acpi-support.conffiles  acpi-support.postrm04:58
felixjetacpid.list       acpid.prerm   acpi-support.list       acpi-support.prerm04:58
felixjetacpid.md5sums    acpi.list     acpi-support.md5sums04:58
felixjetacpid.postinst   acpi.md5sums  acpi-support.postinst04:58
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felixjetwhich one, postinst?04:59
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user-landHello, what partitioner does Kubuntu use ?04:59
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h3sp4wnfelixjet: one of the acpid ones04:59
pegMy Firefox crash in some sites04:59
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pegwaht should i do?05:00
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_vgepeg: i have the same, mostly video embed pages05:00
h3sp4wnfelixjet: I dunno without looking at it myself - use instinct05:00
felixjetyea, in that file i find somethings with invoke-rc05:01
h3sp4wnfelixjet: grep invoke-rc.d /var/lib/dpkg/info/acpi* may be a good start05:01
TheGateKeeperuser-land: the installer uses gparted on the livecd05:01
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peg_vge: my isn't in video embed pages05:01
IA-Outdoorsanybody here using kwireless assisstant?05:01
hollywoodbIA-Outdoors: its broken05:01
pegI can't acess the Google Mail for example05:01
IA-Outdoorshollywoodb k, what's the work around to configure the card?05:02
IA-Outdoorsndis driver is working fine05:02
felixjet        if [ -x "`which invoke-rc.d 2>/dev/null`" ] ; then05:02
felixjet                invoke-rc.d acpid start || exit $?05:02
hollywoodbIA-Outdoors: I use iwconfig/ifconfig05:02
felixjeti remove it?05:02
user-landthank you, thegatekeeper. i am trying to use gparted but it does not want to delete partitions on my externel usb drive. what other gui partitioner could i try ?05:02
_vgepeg: mine is pretty random, i guess we crash on different things :-)05:02
IA-Outdoorshollywood what package is that in?05:02
IA-Outdoorsneve rmind05:02
hollywoodbIA-Outdoors: you already have it, run in a term05:02
h3sp4wnfelixjet: just put - echo ifront of the invoke-rc.d05:02
peg_vge: I thinks so too05:03
[cf] nightrid3ruser-land: make sure no partition from the external drive is mounted05:03
h3sp4wnfelixjet: (and change it back after you have got it to configure05:03
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Alter-Egoi am trying to install wine on edgy, but adept does not show it listed05:03
felixjeti see05:04
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JucatoAlter-Ego: is universe enabled?05:04
h3sp4wnfelixjet: It could be because of some change in /proc that would only work once the new kernel is working05:04
felixjetdone :)05:04
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IA-Outdoorshollywood, iwconfig shows sit0 which is the new device after I insert the card. I do "iwconfig sit0 esside myssid" and it gives me "SET failed on device sit0"05:05
h3sp4wnfelixjet: dpkg -C (lists nothing broken) ? and you put it back ?05:05
user-landthank you, [cf] nightrid3r.05:05
scythe128anyone have problems running synaptic from the menu?  mine will only load from cli05:06
Jucatoscythe128: what does it say when you try to run it from the menu?05:06
IA-Outdoorsuh, maybe sit0 isn't my wireless card.  When I eject the thing it does nada05:06
IA-Outdoorsthoughts?05:06
TheGateKeeperuser-land: take your pick: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_partition_utilities05:06
scythe128nothing at all, it just doesn't run05:06
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felixjeth3sp4wn:05:07
scythe128I cant find it using ps -e either05:07
felixjetSetting up acpid (1.0.4-5ubuntu4) ...05:07
felixjetinvoke-rc.d acpid start05:07
felixjetSetting up acpi-support (0.90) ...05:07
felixjetacpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy05:07
felixjetinvoke-rc.d: initscript acpid, action "restart" failed.05:07
felixjet * Checking battery state...                                             [ ok ] 05:07
lakinI typically use DIA for diagrams, but it's so buggy that it's driving me nuts.  Does KDE have a decent diagram editor?05:07
Jucato!pastebin | felixjet05:07
ubotufelixjet: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)05:07
user-landthanks, thegatekeeper, [cf] nightrid3r found the problem for me.05:07
felixjetyay sorry, i trought it was less lines05:07
Jucatolakin: KChart?05:07
felixjeth3sp4wn: its like now i dont have more errors :S05:07
lakinJucato: thanks, I'll check into it.05:08
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Jucatoscythe128: in the K Menu, right-click on the Synaptic entry, and select Edit Item. make sure that the command that launches synaptic is "kdesu synaptic"05:08
h3sp4wnfelixjet: Its a pretty low quality release compared to dapper really (especially upgrades)05:08
IA-Outdoorshow do I find the device name of my wireless card.  ndiswrapper -l confirms the driver is loaded and hardware is present05:08
h3sp4wnfelixjet: aptitude search xserver-xorg-driver~i05:09
felixjetnow im doing apt-get -u dist-upgrade|grep ^' '|xargs apt-get -y install05:09
IA-Outdoorsiwconfig doesn't show a valid device with wireless extensions05:09
scythe128I have edited it before, it just stops working after a reboot05:09
scythe128cant explain it, but its not going to bother me, just checking to see if it is just me05:09
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h3sp4wnfelixjet: Its alot easier to just drop into single user mode (remove all of X / openoffice / kde)05:10
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h3sp4wnfelixjet: make sure ubuntu-minimal is installed - change to edgy05:10
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h3sp4wnfelixjet: dist-upgrade and put kubuntu-desktop back after the dist-upgrade (when you are in the new kernel)05:10
felixjetyep, kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal are installed05:10
clement_ritto_770@hotmail.com05:11
felixjetupgrades should be easier :( at least in a distribution that is pointed to a normal user05:13
Jucatofelixjet: that's one of their goals for the next release05:13
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h3sp4wnfelixjet: you should have used the update-manager05:14
Alter-Egoit's enabled05:14
Alter-Egowhich is why i am confused05:14
felixjetya...too late05:14
h3sp4wnfelixjet: upgrading with apt was not supposed to be a supported upgrade mechanism05:14
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JucatoAlter-Ego: the universe section of mx.archive.ubuntu.com is totally empty... use another mirror/server05:16
Bubba_Gump:)05:16
Alter-EgoJucato: ah, ok05:16
Alter-Ego!universe05:16
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:16
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JucatoAlter-Ego: just change the "mx." to something else05:17
MidMarksomeone else has this bug? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/1469205:17
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|joe|hello05:18
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|joe|is here anybody using a dsl connection under kubuntu? if yes, do you use some frontend instead of pon/poff?05:19
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|joe|i'm asking because knet seems to be completely broken in edgy05:19
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Jucato|joe|: I do. but I don't even use pon/poff, since I set it to automatically connect on boot05:20
|joe|Jucato: ahm ok05:20
Jucato|joe|: but in the rare cases I do need to use pon/poff, I type them directly05:20
|joe|is there actually any other similar frontend supporting pppoe?05:20
Jucatomy experience with KNet in Dapper, wasn't really.... um satisfactory...05:21
|joe|i know kwlan got support for it lately05:21
Jucato|joe|: I wish Kubuntu would develop one, don't you? :)05:21
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intelikeywhat's the best way for a script to identify what environment it's running in?     i have a script that needs to test for both display size and ownership ???05:21
|joe|Jucato: well sometimes in the knetworkconf ... :)05:21
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|joe|Jucato: anyway what do you mean by unsatisfactory?05:22
intelikeylet me redirrect that question.   ownership as in "what app called me?"05:22
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|joe|intelikey: kind of parent pid or what?05:22
Jucato|joe|: I found it a bit hard to configure... I mean compared to drakconf... :P05:23
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|joe|Jucato: that's right you have to actually copy the stuff from /etc/ppp/peers into knet05:23
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intelikey|joe| yeah i been testing $PPID against a known list of veriables  but was kinda looking for a "better" way.05:23
scythe128ahh, back05:23
|joe|Jucato: but hey, it's working :) (it worked at least)05:23
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Jucato|joe|: although having a unified GUI for all types of internet connections is very nice. but KNet is very old (and unmaintained, afaik)...05:24
|joe|Jucato: and now that knet is broken i don't know any other simple frontend to this in kubuntu05:24
|joe|intelikey: and what should be the "output" ? prog name ?05:24
Jucato|joe|: I really haven't gone beyond pppoeconf :)05:25
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intelikey|joe| at present i've got   [ $PPID = $LIST ]  && blah   in a  for loop    but there must be something better.05:25
|joe|Jucato: lucky one :)05:25
|joe|Jucato: but i don't turn on modem all the time05:25
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Jucato|joe|: ah. true... whenever I boot up my PC, the modem is automatically on. and I connect automatically...05:25
Jucato(this PC actually has basically no worth without an internet connection...)05:26
|joe|intelikey: i don't understand exactly what do you need. do you want to know the program name? what information do you need exactly05:26
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|joe|Jucato: i'm nor sure if setup like your's would work for me, because the modem needs some time to get the connection05:26
intelikey|joe| the output will be formated according to env    that is to say depending on $PPID it will either display things and that restricted to x# lines   or simply send to /dev/null05:27
|joe|Jucato: depending on kubuntu boot speed this could fail :)05:27
Jucato|joe|: I think mine does too. but by the time KDE loads fully, it's connected. sometimes though, I have to wait for a few more seconds05:27
morozyes05:28
|joe|intelikey: and what is the $LIST in your case? what apps do you need to recognize?05:28
Jucatobut that's presuming I have the modem on when I startup...05:28
pointwoodhey, I just connected a HP laserjet 1020 printer to my laptop with usb05:28
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pointwoodbut I can't get it to print05:28
|joe|Jucato: is it actually fine for ppp if the modem is not up? is there some kind of retry?05:29
pointwoodit sends the print job and says it is completed, but the job never arrives at the printer05:29
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Jucato|joe|: mine retries again and again until it gets connected. sometimes it just hangs up, though...05:29
intelikey|joe| "do you want to know the program name? what information do you need exactly"   if it's a shell  i.e. called from the commandline it will output in one format but if called from say this irc client it will restrict output so that it can't flood the channel   and if from another app where it would to open a window to show details it will just redirrect to null05:29
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|joe|intelikey: i see05:30
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h3sp4wnintelikey: are you using readlink /proc/$PPID/exe ?05:31
|joe|intelikey: if it's ok for you to "switch" according to the name then ...05:31
|joe|intelikey: ok, h3sp4wn was faster :)05:31
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intelikeyreadlink   hmmmmm05:32
|joe|intelikey: isn't using a parameter an option for you? would be imho better if possible05:32
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intelikeythat doesn't help any05:32
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|joe|intelikey: you could even try to make symlinks and switch according to the progname05:32
intelikey|joe| ???05:33
|joe|:)05:33
|joe|intelikey: i mean that from shell you call app1, from irc app2, from x appx and all appx are symlinked to app105:33
intelikey|joe| " isn't using a parameter an option for you? "    i'm using symbolic links to determine things already....05:33
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intelikeyyou are sujesting expanding the list of commands that actually call this script...05:34
|joe|not very smart i admit05:34
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intelikeywell i guess i can continue using a for loop to test ppid   just thought someone might have a faster/better/smarter way05:36
|joe|Jucato: anyway it's a pity kubuntu does not have some usable frontend to pppoe05:36
felixjetedgy is running so slowly :S05:36
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robin_whats new05:36
Jucato|joe|: the "sickness" is widespread in the Debian world, I think.05:37
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|joe|Jucato: well i'm going to fix this, i think i've already found the problem05:37
Jucato|joe|: most RPM-based distros use drakconf, YaST or something similar...05:37
Jucato|joe|: ok. good luck then!05:37
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Lam_i have the system monitor on my panel and i accidentaly removed the Memory monitor05:39
Lam_how do i get it back?05:39
user-landi was able to delete all partitions in gparted, but now gparted does not see the external harddisk anymore.05:39
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h3sp4wnfelixjet: upgrade to sid and most of your problems will be fixed05:41
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lacekHi, pls tell me how....05:42
felixjeth3sp4wn:  sid?05:42
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freewillhow can i compile wine?05:43
felixjetwhats sid'05:43
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felixjetfreewill: make && sudo make install05:43
freewillit doen not work in edgy05:43
freewill(wine24)05:43
lacekI have ati card on my laptop. I tried to use live cd, but I dont know the initial parameters i have to give to get correkt x. So seems, that the x basic ati driver not works with my ati05:43
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felixjetsudo apt-get install wine05:44
felixjet?05:44
freewilli can't ping 81.171.111.18405:44
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freewilli have tried everything even to get cvs code but i can't get wine :(05:45
freewillis it possable that someone can host it for me?05:45
scythe128you can get it using synaptic, I did last thursday05:45
freewill(the deb for edgy)05:45
intelikeyfreewill 64bit ?05:46
freewilli38605:46
intelikey!info wine05:46
ubotuwine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB05:46
intelikeyenable universe05:46
intelikey!repos05:46
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:46
felixjeth3sp4wn: what is SID ?05:47
scythe128ohh, I forgot I had enabled muilt and universe05:47
scythe128!SID05:47
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about SID - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:47
scythe128well, I tried :)05:47
felixjet^^05:47
intelikeysid is debian    not ubuntu05:47
intelikeydebian != ubuntu05:48
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scythe128wasnt sid out before woody?  isnt woody the stable now and etch in testing?05:48
freewilloms thanks for hosting it in the ubuntu archives!!!05:48
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intelikeysid is out before all releases..... sid is the development branch    sid == bata05:49
intelikeybeta05:49
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scythe128ahh, still dont hae debians naming down quite right05:49
Bubba_Gumpi've a 1900mhz processer, however, power manager displays halfway at 900mhz, anyone explain ??05:49
scythe128whats after etch.... rex? :)05:49
Tm_Tscythe128: Feisty Fawn I think.05:50
scythe128bubba, are stepping down? you on a laptop?05:50
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Bubba_Gumpscythe128: i'm on a laptop yes. what does stepping down mean?05:50
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scythe128bubba, stepping down means that you are using speedstep.  It slows your processor down when you are unplugged05:51
dobo!nopaste05:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about nopaste - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:51
Bubba_Gumpahh05:51
Bubba_Gumpi am currently plugged in05:51
Bubba_Gumpand the speed appears stepped down05:52
scythe128I had that problem, but I dont know how I fixed it.  WHen you open an app, does it change to 1900 and the drop back down?05:52
intelikeyscythe128 it has been determined that they will use alphbetical nomenclature05:53
Lam_i have the system monitor on my panel and i accidentaly removed the Memory monitor05:53
Lam_how do i get it back?05:53
scythe128like hoard hedghog to dapper drake?05:53
Bubba_Gumpscythe128: yes. it does05:53
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intelikeyscythe128 no dapper is the first in this process05:53
scythe128intel, im gonna have to install a sacasm key on this laptop :)05:54
scythe128bubba, are you using edgy?05:54
scythe128If so , I am stillworking on it05:54
Bubba_Gumpscythe128: edgy :)05:54
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intelikeykar-sacasm ?05:55
Lam_sarkasm!05:55
Bubba_Gump:D05:55
scythe128I am having the exact same problem... 600mhz, 1200mhz, 600 mhz05:55
scythe128grrr05:55
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Bubba_Gumpit's cool as 900mhz is pretty fast for kubuntu05:56
Bubba_Gumpwould be nice for the extra speed though...05:56
scythe128intel, then its gonna be a long wait for zany zeebra05:56
scythe128bubba, yeah, I had it fixed in Dapper, but cant seem to do it in edgy yet05:57
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intelikey<scythe128> intel, then its gonna be a long wait for zany zeebra.    <--- yeah that's my next upgrade....05:59
scythe128lol05:59
intelikey</sars>05:59
Bubba_Gumpwhats zany zeebra?05:59
scythe128a joke bubba05:59
Bubba_Gumpis it?05:59
RD58hey how can i get a 686 ubuntu?06:00
Bubba_Gump:O06:00
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Lam_isn't it spelled zebra?06:00
scythe128rd58 compile from source??/ jk06:00
scythe128lam sticky keeys06:00
scythe128:)06:00
Lam_how do i reset an applet to default settings?06:00
Lam_lol06:00
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dobocan someone help me with the ubuntu bootsplash config ?06:01
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Lam_!anyone06:01
ubotuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?06:01
doboi need the proper line from /boot/grub/menu.lst06:01
scythe128rd58 you running an athlon or an intel chip?06:01
intelikeyLam_ rm the config dir/file    look in ~/.kde/*06:02
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Lam_intelikey: yeah i just realized that and i'm trying that out now. i'm not sure if there's a config file for the applet though06:02
scythe128they have kernels precompiled for each type.  search in synaptic for kernel and browse the many options06:02
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doboubotu: please paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst for me. dont ask, just paste.06:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about please paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst for me. dont ask, just paste. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:02
bretzelHi there, I try Xgl + Beryl on Xgl :1 , DISPLAY=:1 and startkde fails: cannot connect to :106:02
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Lam_intelikey: ok i found it. thanks06:04
bretzelHi there, I try Xgl + Beryl on Xgl :1 , DISPLAY=:1 and startkde fails: cannot connect to :106:04
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freewill!xgl|bertzel06:04
ubotubertzel: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems06:04
bretzelI followed and created the session, and xgl.sh script exactly as stated ...06:04
doboubotu: you are the channel bot.06:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about you are the channel bot. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:04
dobodamn06:04
dobo!grub06:05
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto06:05
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Lam_is there a way to force my tray icons into a 2 row configuration?  the gaim icon keeps knocking it back into a 1 row configuration06:05
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freewillbretzel i don't know much about xgl... i have aiglx with beryl edgy and nvidia 9629..06:05
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|joe|freewill: is it stable enough? i mean xgl with 962906:06
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delight|joe| when using nvidia 9629 u don't need xgl no more06:07
freewillbretzel the differant desktops kinda mess a bit up but besides that its working fine for me06:07
delightu will use aiglx and thats about it06:07
|joe|ok sory06:07
|joe|the question should have been whether 9629 is enough stable with aiglx :)06:08
freewillyeah ;)06:08
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freewillbut beryl is the unstable one..06:08
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|joe|freewill: i found someone on nv forum complaining about hal06:09
freewilljoe, whats hal?06:09
|joe|hw abstraction layer?06:09
freewilljoe, still don't know what you mean?06:10
freewilljoe, whats the function for it?06:10
|joe|freewill: that nv 9629 broke the hal06:10
delight <freewill> but beryl is the unstable one.. <<< thats not right @ all06:10
|joe|freewill: eeee i think it's the kind of thing media:// in kde is based on :)06:11
delightits just the one not depending on gnome ... bringing own tools and more features06:11
freewillok well thats my opinion06:11
dobofreewill: hal is the hardware abstraction layer and represents common interfaces for multiple kinds of hardware. it is a useful addon for operating systems and the programmers which use it:06:11
freewilldobo, thx06:11
felixjet!kubuntu-desktop06:12
ubotuk/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.06:12
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dobofreewill: do you have ubuntu 6.10 ?06:13
freewillyes06:13
dobofreewill: can you paste me your /boot/grub/menu.lst ?06:14
doboi have lost my beautiful bootsplash06:14
dobohttp://phpfi.com/17262406:14
freewillok well for me the drivers are fine i just have problems with beryl not getting to the other desktops like if i click on desktop config with beryl enabled then i can only set the background for desktop number 1 rofl06:14
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dobothats my config06:14
doboi need to adjust it06:14
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freewilldubo ok i'll06:15
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freewilldubo http://pastebin.com/82051706:16
user-landdo you know how to specify ext3 in cfdisk ?06:16
freewilldubo is that it?06:17
mbaileyAnyone know where there is information on using 1394 hard drives with ubuntu/kubuntu?06:17
dobofreewill: yes thanks man06:17
freewilldubo np06:18
dobofreewill: i need to add splash06:18
doboto get the splash06:18
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dobodasmn06:18
dobobrb i need to reboot06:18
dobowanna see it06:18
|joe|user-land: you can create ext2 and add journal later06:18
freewilldubo see what?06:19
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freewillthe setup doesn't look to good but its installing ;-006:22
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stamenhi06:22
stamenI want to ask somthing about skype06:23
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|joe|stamen: so ask then :)06:24
stamendid anybody knows an alternative program like skype which is using skype modules06:24
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stamenand the web camera is working06:24
stamenbecause I am pised off of this waiting to wait for skype v.2.006:24
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stamenfor linux06:24
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user-landwith mke2fs -j, thank you [joe] .06:25
gazou!seen greenlynx06:25
ubotuI haven't seen greenlynx recently06:25
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user-land[joe] , do i need to create the fat32 partition too or is that done after defining and writing it in cfdisk ?06:27
|joe|user-land: i meant actually tune2fs -j06:27
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user-landis that better, [joe]  ?06:28
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ruedi!mp306:28
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats06:28
|joe|user-land: if you have existing ext2 you can kind of convert it to ext3 by adding journal via tune2fs -j06:28
|joe|user-land: if it's empty i'd say mke2fs is better :)06:28
user-landthanks.06:29
ruedi!sis06:29
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:29
|joe|user-land: you need firstly to create the fat partition in cfdisk and than format it06:29
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user-landok.06:29
|joe|user-land: mkfs.vfat should do06:29
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ruedidarn...  i need a howto to install a SiS 330 Mirage craphicchip06:30
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ruedi!gpu06:30
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gpu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:30
doboruedi: are you trying to do something with an ati card ( x700 or similar ) ?06:32
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doboruedi: ah sorry sis06:33
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doboruedi: http://www.winischhofer.eu/linuxsisvga.shtml06:34
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ruedithanks a lot06:34
abattoirhmm SiS :'(06:34
doboi have thrown my SiS-305 GPU out of the window and bought an ati card a few years ago.06:36
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user-landthat worked, thanks [joe] . is it normal to only get 218GB on a 250gb hd when making 2 primary partitions ?06:37
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dobouser-land: sudo fdisk /dev/hda or sudo /dev/sda # then press p for printint the table and q for quit06:40
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digiluxhey heyx06:41
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dobouser-land: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda does it easier...06:42
intelikeydobo  cat /proc/partitions06:43
dobointelikey: oh behave...06:43
intelikey:)06:44
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user-landwow, dobo, there i get 239.5 GB, in gnome i only see 208 gb for that ext partition. why ?06:44
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h3sp4wndepends whether you use 1024 or 100006:45
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h3sp4wn(I think you should use 1024 - makes more sense)06:45
user-landaha.06:46
IA-Outdoorsanybody here have problems with kopete not connecting or connecting well after you've logged-in?06:46
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user-landthank you, h3sp4wn.06:46
dobouser-land: dont expect too much from user-land tools. ask the kernel directly wih proper tools or the proc fs06:46
user-landdobo, the quality is lacking, right ?06:47
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dobocfdisk, fdisk and gnome and kde have special algorithms. one of these tools computes your correct size.06:48
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h3sp4wnthe manufacturer would use 1000 (makes the appear bigger)06:49
h3sp4wn*disk06:49
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xst Can anyone explain this: For a mount point I have specified "noauto" as mount option in /etc/fstab. But still it is mounted automatically upon boot. This behavior came with edgy. Why is it beeing auto-mounted?06:52
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Dr_willishow are you accessing it xst? perhaps kde is auto-mounting it on access.06:54
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xstDr_willis: I am not accessing it. I just type "mount" in a terminal06:54
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Dr_willishmm...06:54
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user-landxst, i think ubuntu is playing tricks with their /media stuff, not respecting existing linux commands.06:55
Dr_williswhats the fstab line? ive not noticed this 'issue'06:55
patrick_hi  does anybody know a good howto for installing the ati radeon driver06:55
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Dr_willisuser-land,  Hmm interesting.. as a test he could mount to /mnt/ instead of /media/ i guess..06:55
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Dr_willis!ati06:55
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:55
xstdr_willis: /dev/hdd1       /mnt/mm         ext3    noauto,rw,user  0       006:55
dobo!tell patrick_ati06:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about  tell patrick_ati - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:55
Dr_willisradeon? Hmm you mean the ati fglrs drivers?06:55
dobo!tell patrick_ ati06:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about  tell patrick_ ati - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:56
dobo!ati06:56
patrick_jes the fglrx driver with opengl suport06:56
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto06:56
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Dr_willisxst,  the use of 'rw'  is not needed i think..   and proberly dont affect anything anyway. :)    you are mounting to /mnt/ so that removes the /media/ issue..06:56
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Alter-Egowhere would i find a list of repositories to choose from ?06:57
Dr_willisxst,  theres a 'user' and 'users' option also i thought.. not sure how they apply to ext3 weither...06:57
Dr_willis!easysource06:57
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic06:57
dobopatrick_: i was not able to install kubuntu 6.06 with the live cd06:57
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dobopatrick_: on an amd64 with x700 ati card06:57
instructorHow do I create a file in the /dev folder?06:57
doboinstructor: mknod06:58
instructorin case say I accidently deleted the one for my hard drive?06:58
xstDr_willis: They do, but they specify that if users are allowed to perform the mount operation. They shouldn't have anything to do with this particular issue06:58
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doboinstructor: no problem, theese files are managed by udev06:58
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instructordobo: and the name would make it point back to the right device?06:58
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instructordobo: so mknod /dev/hda1 b would suffice?06:59
doboinstructor: udev finds your hardware at boottime and creates the devices on the fly06:59
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instructorlets say I can't reboot06:59
instructorhi intelikey06:59
doboinstructor: try to erase the device from your soundcard06:59
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dobomaybe listen to a radio stream and try rm -f /dev/*dsp*07:00
Dr_willisxst,  yea - reading up on the diffs between user and users now.. :) not sure when you would one or the other heh..     not sure why you would use them on ext3 really. I guess for a removeable drive..07:00
sparrWhen I try to restart my machine from X it changes to an 85Hz video mode that my monitor doesnt support and then just sits there (I have not checked if I can ssh in yet).  If I 'sudo reboot' from a console then I get the graphical kubuntu logo+progress bar for shutdown/startup and all is well.  Help?07:00
inteliwaspwell i have an odd problem...07:00
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Alter-Egowhere is the source list kept for adept07:01
instructorAlter-Ego: /etc/apt/sources.list07:01
Dr_willis!apt-get07:01
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)07:01
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instructordobo: Still works fine07:02
dobosparr: try to reconfigure your xorg server07:02
fannagoganna!apt-get07:02
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)07:02
fannagoganna!adept07:02
ubotuadept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto07:02
sparrdobo: when i do that i lose all the automagic stuff that the kubuntu installer did07:02
inteliwaspi am trying to install dev files to compile some programs but one of the dependencys is libartsc0 the curent version is 1.5.5 but everything needs 1.5.407:02
dobosparr: you need HorizSync 30-75 && VertRefresh 50-70 for example07:02
instructordobo: Should I stop the app and restart it?07:03
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doboinstructor: the devices are not erased07:03
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instructordobo: EH?07:03
instructorThe device file is07:03
doboinstructor: look at them with ls /dev/*dsp*07:03
instructordobo: ls: /dev/*dsp*: No such file or directory07:04
dobook instructor reboot now07:04
xstIs anyone working to fix the problems listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyKnownIssues?action=info ? Especially I am interested in bug #58721 which is assigned "high" as importance but still seems to be ignored (the maintainer hasn't commented on the issue for ages). How can I see if there is beeing worked to solve it?07:04
doboinstructor: sorry but thank you for testing...07:05
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xstbug #58721 can be seen here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-mga/+bug/5872107:05
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dobosparr: enter these lines into Section "Monitor"07:08
dobosparr:07:08
dobo    HorizSync       30-9707:08
dobo    VertRefresh     50-15007:08
instructordobo: Bingo Got it!07:08
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instructorSort of I don't get where the major number comes from but .. I guess I'll sort that out07:09
doboinstructor: udev creates all the files in dev07:09
dobodont worry07:09
instructorI know but in case I can't reboot07:09
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sparrdobo: found the right settings for my monitor (much smaller ranges), thanks07:09
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sparrHorizSync       30-8207:10
sparr        VertRefresh     56-7607:10
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dobothats an lowend 17" Monitor with the ability to screw up your eyes...07:10
sparri know07:11
sparrtrying to decide if im brave enough to run 1600x1200 on it07:11
dobosparr: try to help yourself and add DisplaySize to the same section07:11
dobosparr: for an 17" its usually 320 24007:11
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sparrkilling X, brb i hope07:14
Qixxhi; i got a really weird problem which is getting increasingly irritating07:14
Qixxbeen trying to solve it for months; eventually gave up - till i got it working; then broke it again07:15
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Qixxbasically; i got a 17" laptop; which runs at a widescreen resolution07:15
Qixxand an external 17" screen (not widescreen)07:15
mr-roadsterhello07:15
Qixxi want to run the external screen *only* at 1280x1024 + OpenGL, but yeah --- it refuses :(07:15
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Qixxit wants the 1280x800 resolution that the laptop runs at; or 1024x76807:16
Qixxi got it to run at 1280x1024 with a *very* nasty xorg.conf (uses xinerama) -- but then no opengl07:16
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Qixx[oh yeah; and HP NX7400 / Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)07:17
hazard_what's the diffrence between the xf86-xserver stuff and the xorg stuff?07:17
HawkwindXFree86 is obsolete.  It's all Xorg now07:18
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hazard_I see...07:19
doboxfree86 is one big wreck and xorg modularizes it and makes it easier to develop new features07:19
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hazard_Hi hazard!07:19
hazardHi hazard_!07:19
HawkwindWhy are you cloning yourself and speaking to yourself07:20
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hazard_yea, I am.....well actually, the second one is my linux box, I'm not usually on IRC with my laptop.07:20
sparrI added "1600x1200" to my xorg.conf in the appropriate place, but this is what my Xorg.0.log has to say about it:  *(WW) (1600x1200,COMPAQ 1825) mode clock 162MHz exceeds DDC maximum 140MHz07:21
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hazard_It sounds like your monitor is saying that the best it can do is 140mhz.07:21
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dobosparr: if you enter a VertRefresh ~82 Hz ...07:22
sparrdobo: docs say 76 is my max07:22
Qixx:/07:22
dobosparr: and your ddc moni says its 14007:22
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mr-roadsteris here someone that's running with samba?07:22
sparrsame docs also say i can do  1600x1200x60Hz07:22
sparrprobably contradictory there07:23
dobosparr: then you will get two options. trust ddc and throw away the docu or thrust the docu and switch off ddc07:23
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sparrill trust ddc07:23
dhqfdoving: hey07:23
sparri dont need 1600x1200 on this tiny lcd07:23
dhqfdoving: i wanna reinstall kubuntu without deleting any files07:23
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doboModeline "1152x864" in Section "Screen" sparr07:24
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dobosparr: compare yourself: http://phpfi.com/17264107:24
dhqi wanna reinstall kubuntu without deleting any files07:24
dhqjust like a repair07:24
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dobodhq: unmount home !07:25
sparrdobo: its a 5:4 display, so 1280x1024 is my size of choice07:25
digiluxhey metamorfizs07:25
digilux:D07:25
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dobosparr: Modeline "1200x1024"  130.85  1200 1288 1416 1632  1024 1025 1028 1069  -HSync +Vsync07:35
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sparrdobo: looks viable07:37
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Pensacolahow to get compiz/xgl running on edgy?07:38
dobo!xgl07:38
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems07:38
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dhq_fdoving: i had copied all my files from the live cd /etc remember07:41
dhq_fdoving: now how do i get the init.d config07:41
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dobofdoving: you have copied the debs from the install cd to your harddrive ?07:43
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dobosounds wired. i hope, i havent understood it...07:44
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IA-Outdoorsok, simple question...how do I tell kde not to remember what windows I had opened when I close?  It keep trying to fire them all up when I log back in07:50
h3sp4wnIA-Outdoors: somewhere in kcontrol07:51
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IA-Outdoorslol, I'm digging in there...must be missing it somewhere07:51
h3sp4wnIA-Outdoors: kde components -> session manager at a guess07:52
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h3sp4wnwhy does amarok suck so badly for internet radio (at any one time - one out of the four will be working and it takes 30 secs everytime you get a wrong one)07:53
dhq_how do i remove broken pakages07:53
h3sp4wndhq_: depends how they are broken07:53
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dhq_h3sp4wn: i have nagios common it doesnt get uninstalled07:54
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h3sp4wndhq_: dpkg -r fails with what ?07:54
Bubba_Gump:)07:55
constantine-xvidoes anyone by chance have a animated gif of a spinning kubuntu logo?07:55
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|joe|anyone tried to use already kde without mouse? ... terrible ....07:55
constantine-xvi|joe|: suprise07:55
h3sp4wn|joe|: ratpoison is perfect without a mouse07:55
constantine-xvi:)07:55
constantine-xvih3sp4wn: that's because it's more/less xscreen07:55
h3sp4wn|joe|: (its what I use if I have a lot of work to do)07:55
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|joe|constantine-xvi: the only thing that works is with numpad07:56
dhq_h3sp4wn: dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `nagios' in statoverride file07:56
dhq_h3sp4wn: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)07:56
|joe|now i'm in the kubuntu's system settings and just can't get into the icon list07:56
|joe|kind of frustrating :)07:57
ataragDoes Openoffice save datas to the harddisk, if i don't save them, but only print them?07:57
h3sp4wndhq_: look in /var/lib/dpkg/info/{package name}.prerm07:57
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h3sp4wndhq_: try to find the part which is failing07:57
doboatarag: its called autosave07:57
ataragand where can i disable it?07:58
h3sp4wnconstantine-xvi: the screen keybinding as pretty sensible once you know them07:58
dhq_h3sp4wn: is there any way to repair kubuntu07:58
h3sp4wndhq_: ?07:58
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h3sp4wndhq_: Dunno what you mean07:58
doboatarag: mark the file as write protected and youre fine07:59
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h3sp4wnor make it immutable07:59
disco_volantebuonasera07:59
disco_volante:-)07:59
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disco_volantegood evening08:00
h3sp4wnatarag: chattr +i filename (if you are using ext3 or xfs - maybe others)08:00
dobodisco_volante: i wanna see the sharks08:00
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dhq_h3sp4wn: like my kubuntu is almost on state of crashing but i dont wanna lose any info i dont have a writter and i dont have hdd space i just wanna reinstall everything without deleting stuff like in windows there is a repair option08:00
disco_volantea question... can i install kubuntu 6.10 on a sistem with celeron 2.6 GHz?08:01
h3sp4wndhq_: Did you make a seperate /home ?08:01
constantine-xvidisco_volante: how much ram?08:01
h3sp4wndhq_: if not just backup and reinstall and restore08:01
Lam_is it just me or when you mute the system, it doesn't mute amarok08:01
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SlimGwhat's the command/variable to retrieve the "full username" and mail address?08:06
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constantine-xvi|joe|: as i said, don't keep a bunch of stuff open08:06
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constantine-xviSlimG: your machine?08:06
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constantine-xviSlimG: it's (your username)@(your hostname)08:06
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disco_volantethanks :-)08:08
phlegyasHey there everyone. I'm trying to install Kmplayer (mind you this is the first time I'm trying to install anything) and I get a c++ FAILS SANITY TEST. Anyone can lend a helping hand?08:08
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constantine-xviphlegyas: have you installed build-essential?08:09
SlimGconstantine-xvi: ex.: $USER contain my username, what's the variable that contains my full name and mail address?08:09
phlegyascheck .. sanity check not sanity test haha :)08:09
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phlegyasbuild essential right. only i have no clue what that is :D sorry I'm newer than a newbie. i'll go check on google what that build essential is :)08:10
phlegyasi'll go check thanks :)08:10
|joe|phlegyas: are you compiling or just installing binary?08:10
phlegyasummm i think i'm compiling. there was a configure thing and I just pressed ./configure08:11
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phlegyasthen again i'm not sure what i'm doing haha :) this is my second day on kubuntu (or anything apart from MS win) hehe08:11
josehola08:11
phlegyasclap clap ... i clap for myself :)08:12
h3sp4wnkmplayer is going to need quite alot of -dev packages08:12
phlegyasoi that didnt sound hopeful h3sp4wn :)08:12
h3sp4wn(maybe some not even in kubuntu is you want every feature enabled)08:12
|joe|phlegyas: you could try apt-get build-dep kmplayer08:12
phlegyashow do you guys put my name in front of whatever you right? do you type it in?08:12
phlegyasthanks joe i'll try that too :)08:12
|joe|phlegyas: depending on your client you can use tab to do this08:13
phlegyasinteresting ...i feel like a retard08:13
|joe|phlegyas: are you actually compiling a new kmplayer version?08:13
phlegyashehe ... after having spent like 21 years on pcs I cant use one08:13
phlegyasdamn ...08:13
|joe|phlegyas: because it's already in the repos08:14
phlegyasummm listen Joe I just downloaded something off the kmplayer site and it was a jar. i extracted everything and now try to make it work. i just do what they say in the installation text file.08:14
phlegyasrepos. where are those repos joe? :)08:15
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|joe|phlegyas: omg jar :) it's not java isn't it?08:15
|joe|phlegyas: you can install sw in kubuntu via synaptic/adept/or in cmd line apt-get08:15
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|joe|phlegyas: have you tried sudo apt-get install kmplayer?08:15
phlegyaswell joe i think i didnt see it in adept08:15
|joe|phlegyas: ok you probably don't have the repos configured08:16
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phlegyasdamn i dont have to feel like a retard i am one !!!08:16
phlegyashaha ok how do you get those repos configured then?08:16
|joe|phlegyas: its in multiverse, mmnt08:16
phlegyasif you dont mind wwasting your time with me that's it :D08:16
|joe|phlegyas: start adept08:16
draremi have my gnu grub screen up and several choices of previous ubuntu kernels - can i and how do i delete those entries and still preserve the ability to dual-boot?08:16
phlegyasdone :)08:17
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|joe|phlegyas: adept->mng repos08:17
fribuntudrarem: Well, I always just manually edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file08:17
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SlimGis there a command for listing all environmental variables?08:17
phlegyasohhhhhhhhhhhhh wait i found that stupid thing in my list08:18
fribuntudrarem: Delte everything you don't want in there and that's that.08:18
phlegyasbut it even says it 's installed :D08:18
draremhave to be in linux to edit it?08:18
phlegyasgimme me a second please08:18
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|joe|SlimG: export / set08:18
fribuntudrarem: yes.08:18
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draremi see, said the blind man08:18
phlegyasok i pressed on manage repos :)08:18
draremthanks08:18
|joe|drarem: the items get usually automatically removed if you remove the kernel packages08:18
Rossimocould someone help me with knetworkmanager?08:19
|joe|phlegyas: ok if you see it in your list it's probabaly configured already08:19
|joe|phlegyas: do you see somewhere 'multiverse'?08:19
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phlegyasnope08:19
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phlegyasall i see is main restricted08:19
SlimG|joe|: thanx08:19
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|joe|phlegyas: ok so change the 'main restricted' to 'main restricted multiverse'08:20
|joe|phlegyas: or copy the lines and replace the main restricted with mutliverse08:20
zerakWhy on earth do i got programs in my "System services" (what to boot at start) that i dont even got installed any longer, removed them with apt-get08:20
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fribuntudrarem: you're welcome :)08:20
h3sp4wnzerak: get rid of all your unused config files with sudo aptitude purge \~c08:21
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zerakwhy doesnt it removes those by default when i remove the program08:21
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phlegyasummmm should i erase the main restricted and type in the word multiverse? or type in the phrase main restricted multiverse?08:21
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|joe|phlegyas: either you type main restricted multiverse08:22
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phlegyasok done :)08:22
|joe|phlegyas: or if you make a new copy of those lines you can replace that string in the new copy08:22
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|joe|phlegyas: you just need to have the main restricted somewhere08:23
zerakthanks for the08:23
zerakule_/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver]  Error 208:23
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phlegyasi did just that. i cloned everything and replaced with the word multiverse. now i pressed on fetch updates :D08:23
zerak sudo aptitude purge \~c08:23
stoniehi@all08:23
phlegyasok i now have them both hehe :)08:23
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phlegyashope it will still work :P08:23
|joe|phlegyas: now you have to have the kmplayer in the list08:23
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phlegyaswell honestly in my list in adept it says that kmplayer is installed but i cant find it in my kmenu08:24
phlegyasis that possible?08:24
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|joe|phlegyas: can you run it? try alt+f2 and type kmplayer08:24
stonieI have got a very big problem. Im using edgy with an ati-graphik but the driver wont work08:24
|joe|phlegyas: it is possible, some apps don't have menu entries08:24
phlegyasnoooo it says --> Unknown host kmplayer :|08:25
phlegyaswell beats me08:25
stonieI have tried everything from every wiki I found, but nothing works08:25
Zaphod_I have small problem with Kubuntu... When I shutdown the computer it goes halt position... I have old computer which explains a litle of this problem, but I like to solve it as soon as possible08:25
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dobophlegyas: log out and log in again. your entries should be updated.08:25
|joe|phlegyas: uknown host???08:25
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phlegyasoki dobo i'll try that too08:25
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stonieis anybody here using edgy with fglrx?08:26
phlegyasthat's what it says joe08:26
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|joe|phlegyas: try kbuildsycoca08:26
phlegyasalt+f2 i typed in kmplayer08:26
dobophlegyas: i have mplayer|kmplayer in my Multimedia Menu08:26
|joe|phlegyas: afaik you don't have to log out to update the entries08:26
phlegyasok then i'm not logging out :)08:26
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phlegyaslet me try that kbuild thing08:26
WikinGwhen i try to launch beryl it shows that message: "beryl: No composite extension" what it means???08:27
phlegyasummmm something happened but i didnt get what it was08:27
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phlegyasi typed kbuildsycoca in alt+f2 right?08:27
|joe|phlegyas: it could say something like cannot run or similar, but not unknown host :)08:27
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|joe|phlegyas: ok08:28
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phlegyasnope. it said nothing like that ... :)08:28
stoniethe big problem with my ati and fglrx-problem is the dri-module08:28
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phlegyasactually i'm not sure that it does anything with kbuildsycoca08:28
|joe|phlegyas: can you try it from console?08:28
dobophlegyas: http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5731/bildschirmphoto1lc9.png08:28
phlegyassure i'll go that08:28
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|joe|phlegyas: kbuildsycoca does not display anything but updates your menu entries08:28
phlegyasok joe i did that08:28
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phlegyasitt says that there's no database available08:29
|joe|phlegyas: and now from console kmplayer08:29
|joe|phlegyas: that's ok :)08:29
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stonieis here no "ati-guru"?08:29
phlegyasfrom the concole i cant run kmplayer it says it's an unknown command08:29
phlegyassorry :(08:29
|joe|stonie: sory i'm on nv08:29
phlegyasbodo i saw your pic08:30
phlegyasi dont have that sorry :(08:30
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|joe|phlegyas: ok try in console dpkg -l "kmplayer*"08:30
stoniei read a lot of wikis but there is no help08:30
zerakone more and a question i ask over and over, sound problem wont get it work, many guides and all diffrent and none did the trick. However i found one that recompiled alsa for ubuntu (even thouh it doesnt feel like ubuntu style) but i got a lotof errors but it failed since i missed:    [/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/driver [/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/drivers/serialmidi.o]  Error 1s/serialmidi.o]  Error 108:30
phlegyasok joe i did that now i have to read that text that came up08:31
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phlegyasgive me a second please :)08:31
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|joe|phlegyas: it should display a few packages and two chars at the beginning08:31
dobostonie: try to configure your xserver with an vesa card and without glx & dri08:31
phlegyasok joe here goes. it says: desired = unknown/install/remove/purge/hold08:31
|joe|phlegyas: you should have something like ii kmplayer08:32
phlegyasummmm i have something like that08:32
phlegyasi have a thing that goes like that -->08:32
phlegyasii kmplayer-base 0.9.308:32
phlegyasand it says some more then08:32
stonieat my dapper installation it works fine with fglrx08:32
rafaguapHi guy! I'm still hesitating if upgrading from dapper to edgy now, or wait still more, for my Packard Bell Easynote laptop that I use for daily office work... still critical bugs in the upgrade process?08:32
phlegyasany of that helps? :|08:32
|joe|phlegyas: you need kmplayer wout the -base08:33
phlegyasuhmmmm ok i'll just go and erase that base thing then08:33
phlegyashehehehe :D08:33
phlegyashow can i find the kmplayer without the base? :|08:33
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|joe|phlegyas: i wouldn't do that :)08:33
|joe|phlegyas: you'll probably need it for the kmplayer08:33
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phlegyasgood stuff08:34
|joe|phlegyas: either in adept, but look for kmplayer wout -base08:34
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phlegyasthere's nothing else in adept jow08:34
|joe|phlegyas: or just type sudo apt-get install kmplayer08:34
phlegyasi did check :(08:34
|joe|phlegyas: ok so try the apt-get08:34
phlegyasummm ok did that08:34
phlegyasbut08:34
phlegyasnot quite :D08:34
dobophlegyas: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse08:34
doboand08:34
phlegyasoh wait08:34
dobophlegyas: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe08:35
phlegyasok dobo it's opening :D08:35
phlegyaswhat then ?08:35
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phlegyasjoe ... i did that but it says it cant find the package08:35
dobophlegyas: not clicking08:35
doboadd that to your /etc/apt/sources.list08:35
|joe|ooooh $@#%$@#%08:36
|joe|mea culpa, it's in universe, not multiverse :)08:36
CreetureAfternoon kids. My brand new-ish Kubuntu Edgy keeps mounting my usbdisk as uid 1000 gid 1000, even though that's not my id. Any idea where to change that?08:36
phlegyasyou are confusing me people :D08:37
phlegyasok i'll go add that thing in adept08:37
|joe|phlegyas: go to adept plz and check if you have universe as well08:37
phlegyasi have no universe joe08:37
phlegyasas i said i have main restricted and now i have multiverse too :)08:37
phlegyasno universe... i get the drill i'll go add the universe now :P08:37
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omar_help please08:39
omar_K3B is crashing at me08:39
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omar_and I needto burn a CD08:39
omar_I cant burn a cd08:39
omar_with K3B08:39
CreetureI've read some things about hal misbehaving, but this seems like an incompatibility in something in KDE and NIS. Any ideas?08:39
Creetureomar_: Do you have any details on what caused the crash? Log files, message output?08:39
phlegyasthat universe thing is taking some time to update08:40
|joe|Creeture: do you have it configured in fstab or do you just connect and open it in kde?08:40
omar_uh well the kcrash screen is shown08:40
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phlegyasmaybe it will fetch some nice updates :D08:40
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phlegyashopeful thinking ....08:40
omar_just after I press the "BURN" button08:40
Creeture|joe|: Just trying to get the media:/ thing to work.08:40
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|joe|phlegyas: somewhere in wiki there is list of repos, just can't find it now08:40
omar_"the application k3b crashed due to a signal 11 SIGSEGV08:40
phlegyashmmm wiki ??? wiki wiki??? what wiki though? :)08:40
phlegyashgeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy08:41
phlegyasi found the kmplayer without the base08:41
phlegyassmart smart me08:41
phlegyashehehehe08:41
phlegyasthanks joeeeeeeeeee bodo ... and the rest of you :D08:41
CreetureIt looks like it always mounts the usbdisk as uid 1000 gid 1000 ( the defaults for normal systems ), instead of doing a getent call.08:41
omar_but nothing else08:41
phlegyasbut something irrelevant now ... doesnt anyone know what it means that c++ fails sanity check ?08:42
ubuntui must say i am using kubuntu for the first time day. much different than gnome. not in a bad way just different08:42
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phlegyasyeap. .. i have the kmplayer running now. Thanks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!08:42
zorglu_phlegyas: something bad. aka something which is supposed to be true is false08:42
zorglu_phlegyas: in short it is a bug08:42
ubuntuo08:43
phlegyasa bug? i hate bugs ... kill the bug :P08:43
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|joe|phlegyas: when did it print that message? after configure / make or when?08:43
yeehawblabla08:43
yeehawoops08:43
phlegyason configure joe08:43
phlegyasi pressed ./configure08:43
yeehawwrong window >.>08:43
phlegyasand there it was08:43
|joe|phlegyas: that's bad :) maybe you don't have g++ installed or something like that08:43
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|joe|phlegyas: you need a bunch of packages if you want to compile smthng08:44
phlegyaswow ... interesting :|08:44
phlegyasshould i just press on full upgrade on adept ?08:44
phlegyascould that hurt?08:44
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|joe|phlegyas: usually not08:44
phlegyaswell i'll go do just that then and see what happens08:45
Creeture|joe|: It mounts properly and if I browse the mountpoint directly as root, no problems. It just mounts the usbdisk with wrong perms and I don't know where to tell it to Don'tDoThat08:45
omar_cool, I am burning with nautilus08:45
omar_dont know what happened to k3b but it seems broken08:45
omar_:S08:45
|joe|Creeture: i don't know exactly who actually mounts the fs so i can't help08:45
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|joe|Creeture: i think you could fix it by adding /etc/fstab entry08:46
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phlegyasinteresting ... i cant press on full upgrade.08:47
phlegyasi dont think this kubuntu thing likes me :P08:47
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zeraksame here08:47
zerakit is evil08:47
zerakit also got 29 updates it wont update since it must then remove other programs08:48
Creeture|joe|: Yeah, I know I can fix it with the fstab entry. I'm not trying to fix this on 1 machine though.08:48
phlegyasahahaha zerak ... yeah i think it wants to push me back to xp but i';ll keep on pushing back a little bit more :P08:48
|joe|well i've never had problem with that button ... but honestly i usually apply changes manually :)08:48
zerakphlegyas every version gives me diffrent bugs, dapper refused to get ip from dhcp server, 60 % of the time, Edgy removed my sound =(08:49
WikinGwhen i try to launch beryl it shows that message: "beryl: No composite extension" what it means???08:49
CreetureLooks like ivman is mounting it using pmount, might be a clue there.08:49
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zerakbut it gets ip from dhcp server without me dhclient08:49
phlegyaszerak at least now, without the sound, you may surf in silence08:50
phlegyashehehe :D08:50
instructor!etheral08:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about etheral - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:50
zorglu_!info ethereal08:50
zeraknot as good if you want to watch movies08:50
ubotuethereal: dummy upgrade package for ethereal -> wireshark. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.3a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 60 kB08:50
instructorzorglu_: thanks08:50
zorglu_what is this wireshark ?08:50
zerakgot impressed however since i actually got steam up running with its app since edgy (in wine that is)08:50
phlegyasyou 've got a real point there zorglu but i cant get divx/xvid codecs on kubuntu so really there's no movies prospect for me :D08:51
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instructorEthereal is no longer maintained08:51
zorglu_oh ok08:51
zerakVLC is pretty good, no codec problems but a couple of bugs08:51
Alter-Ego!public DNS08:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about public DNS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:51
|joe|phlegyas: it's not _that_ complicated08:51
zorglu_instructor: from the web page, wireshake is Same developers, same code, different name. The Ethereal network protocol analyzer has changed its name to Wireshark. <- http://www.wireshark.org/08:51
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phlegyasjoe you should have known by know that for me everything is complicated hehehehe08:51
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phlegyasZerak i'll try vlc ..i have it on xp and works fine08:52
|joe|phlegyas: you just need to know the right packages08:52
phlegyasi'll try to get it on jubuntu too :)08:52
zorglu_!info vlc08:52
ubotuvlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB08:52
phlegyasactually you mean that i have to know how to install the packaged right joe? :)08:52
zerakas long as you dont open several VLC windows at the same time08:52
zorglu_on dapper vlc doesnt work well to say the least08:52
zerakbug in windows at least08:52
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zerakno problem with VLC in dapper08:52
|joe|phlegyas: i'm using default kaffeine though it's a bit slower than eg mplayer08:52
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phlegyasjoe kaffeine doesnt open divx files :(08:53
|joe|phlegyas: but i can play everything08:53
phlegyasnot for me at least.08:53
|joe|phlegyas: you don't have the right codec ;-)08:53
zorglu_zerak: you are lucky :) mine core dump on regular basis and many codec fails08:53
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phlegyasi know that joe i know08:53
zorglu_!codecs | |joe|08:53
ubotu|joe|: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:53
phlegyasthat;s where it all started from08:53
phlegyasfrom that webpage ubotu passed on08:54
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|joe|i recently installed dapper on one laptop, i found somehow the required packages myself08:54
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phlegyasdapper is the 6.06 ?08:55
zorglu_phlegyas: yes08:55
phlegyas.10 on my laptop.08:55
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phlegyasi installed the 6.10 i mean :)08:55
zerakBut it really sucks to be without sound08:55
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zorglu_!sound08:55
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin08:55
|joe|phlegyas: dapper is 6.06 when i installed it 6.10 was not out08:56
m`kayhi guys. i have installed "ubuntu-desktop" because i want to test gnome.how can i deinstall the package ubuntu-desktop with all dependencies08:56
zerakread almost all of those08:56
zorglu_zerak: tried that ?08:56
phlegyasalright joe :)08:56
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|joe|zerak: what soundcard do you have?08:56
phlegyasi guess that by the time i find my way around in kubuntu ... version 60.1 will be out :P08:56
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zerakSB 24 live integrated, found one for horay about compiling (failed to compile) and a lot of others with non working methods08:57
phlegyasi guess it's my luck with computers .... adept froze :D08:57
phlegyasit does nothing .. shows nothing ... :P08:57
zerakadept is SLOW08:57
|joe|phlegyas: you're the kind of persion who should test rc releases08:57
zerakit will come in a minute or two08:57
phlegyashahahahaha joe that's me :D08:57
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rafaguap...but ... just a question: did it really change things for you, upgrading from dapper to edgy??? and if answer is yes, what?08:57
phlegyasonly everything freezes in my hands :P08:57
Ayabaraanyone using mplayer here? is there a way to lock the aspect ratio when resizing a video?08:58
|joe|zerak: what does lspci say? i don't know sb2408:58
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smaggardHiyas :D08:59
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zerak|joe| 01:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS08:59
phlegyasok since i'm waiting for that thing to unfreeze i'll try to play some music cds... lets try that then :)08:59
zerak|joe| also got tv-card which might cause trouble according to some odd sites08:59
|joe|zerak: sb audigy, hmmm i'd say it should actually work :)09:00
|joe|zerak: i have sb live with flyvideo300009:00
smaggardwhat is edgy's pygtk2 package called?09:00
zerak|joe|: i assume it is the same sb 2409:00
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zerak|joe|: or as the manual say, sound bluster 2409:00
|joe|zerak: it cost me a lot of time to persuade all programs to work per default with sb live and not with the saa7134 mixer09:01
phlegyasthe only thing i have managed to make work till now and thorougly enjoy is AMOR09:01
phlegyasthis penguin is a MUST09:01
phlegyashehehehe :) :) :)09:01
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zerak|joe| use ca010609:01
|joe|zerak: what's that?09:01
phlegyasheyyyyyyyyyyyy great ... some good ol' Alice plays ... goooooooooooooooooooood :)09:01
zerak|joe| the alsa drivers i think09:01
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|joe|zerak: you mean you use ca010609:02
zerak|joe| and conexant which i think is the tv-card09:02
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cntb!screen09:03
ubotuscreen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen09:03
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cntb!resolution09:03
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:03
phlegyashey guys how can i get on this here room through kopete?09:03
smaggardhmm is pygtk2 in ubuntus repositories?09:04
|joe|zerak: does cat /proc/asound/cards say anything?09:04
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zerak|joe| ops, i should be using SB041009:04
zerak|joe| yes, 2 entries09:04
phlegyasi mean which network should i choose?09:04
smaggardah its python-gtk2 doh!09:05
|joe|zerak: alsamixer is working (is it pretending that it does something)?09:05
|joe|phlegyas: shoule be something like irc09:05
zerak|joe| edgy think me SB 24 and Live is SB LS which use Ca0106 while according to ALSA09:05
zerakSB041009:05
zerakP1709:05
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zerakwhile there is many guides that say ca0106 for sb09:05
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|joe|zerak: but it's the same driver isn't it09:06
zerakalsa and kubuntu and kubuntu forums disagree about drivers09:06
|joe|zerak: ehm ... have you checked dmesg output?09:06
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zerakah me stupid09:06
zerakyou are right09:07
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|joe|zerak: you can try modprobe -r snd-ca010609:07
zerakdmesg: what do you want (dont know what it does)09:07
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|joe|zerak: then reinsert and check dmesg09:07
zerakin use09:08
zerakFATAL: Module snd_ca0106 is in use.09:08
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|joe|zerak: argh probably running arts09:08
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Phlegyasheyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy09:08
Phlegyasi didt it ;)09:08
zerak|joe| whats that?09:09
Phlegyasi'm so very smart after all :)09:09
|joe|zerak: kernel msgs09:09
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Phlegyasoki i'm listening to alice, i 'm on through kopete and i;m doing great ehehehe09:09
Phlegyasonly adept is still frozen ....09:09
|joe|zerak: type dmesg | tail -n 20 in console you'll see the last 20 messages09:09
Phlegyasshould i kill it ?09:10
|joe|Phlegyas: should not hurt that much :)09:10
Phlegyaskilled hehehe09:10
|joe|Phlegyas: either via ctrl+esc or the hard way ctrl+alt+esc09:10
Phlegyaskaffeine looks nice by the way09:10
|joe|Phlegyas: or the polite way simply via X in the right upper corner, but that does not help every time09:11
Phlegyasright on joe :)09:11
zerak|joe| nothing of intresst there, however i found from the link the guide i been using some time back and found this intresting09:11
cpk1a normal kill actually can still be polite09:11
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zerak|joe| /usr/bin/speaker-test -> (some things here and then)      Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory09:12
|joe|kill is only sigterm :)09:12
h3sp4wnkill -9 is not too polite09:12
zerakwhy kill easy when you can do it hard ? =P09:12
|joe|h3sp4wn: that's right but simple kill is still :)09:13
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Phlegyasok one more question ... would anyone believe that an intel 2.8 machine's not good enough for Edgy?09:13
zerakwhy use a feather when you can use a hammer09:13
|joe|zerak: i have the same, but i think it's because saa7134 steals the card number #009:13
h3sp4wnPhlegyas: ram is more important than processor speed09:13
|joe|Phlegyas: if you have 32mb ram i would09:13
Phlegyaswell actually i have a gig09:14
cpk1Phlegyas: umm its more than enough, in fact a 2.8 Ghz is more than enough for basically anything09:14
Phlegyasbut still adept froze again :)09:14
|joe|Phlegyas: so that should not be a problem09:14
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Phlegyasso what's wrong with my poor lil adept? it keeps on freezing hehehe09:14
Phlegyashey09:14
Phlegyasit unfroze09:14
cpk1Phlegyas: you could just use adept09:14
|joe|Phlegyas: you can alternatively try synaptic, i like it actually more09:14
cpk1and when i say adept i mean apt-get09:15
Phlegyaswhat's synaptic joe ?09:15
cpk1=X09:15
Phlegyascome on i'm on a roll here learning today :D09:15
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|joe|Phlegyas: kinda gnome adept, synaptic was here actually before adept09:15
cpk1Phlegyas: apt-get is really simple to use09:15
Phlegyasyeah but how can i run synaptic on kubuntu? shouldnt i be using ubuntu foir that ?09:16
Phlegyascpk i cant really choose all updates to be done through console adept can i ?09:16
cpk1Phlegyas: you can use gnome and kde apps interchangeably09:16
cpk1Phlegyas: sure you could09:16
Phlegyasdamn i cant even use one of them hahahaha :)09:16
|joe|Phlegyas: afaik kubuntu is actually ubuntu only that different pkgs get installed by default09:16
Phlegyasi could???09:16
cpk1Phlegyas: what are you trying to do with aptitude?09:17
Phlegyasbut joe you're confusing me ... isnt ubuntu with gnome and kubuntu with kde?09:17
cpk1Phlegyas: yes09:17
|joe|well :)09:17
Phlegyasjust trying to install everything there is cpk :D09:17
zerak|joe| what can i do about it then?09:17
|joe|you can install kde in ubuntu and you can install gnome in kubuntu09:17
Phlegyasoh oki joe :) i cant even install kmplayer :P09:17
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Phlegyasor actually since we did that09:17
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|joe|Phlegyas: come on you have it already :)09:18
Phlegyasyeah hehehe09:18
Phlegyasnow i need to get me some codecs :P09:18
|joe|zerak: and what about the alsamixer? does it work?09:18
zerak|joe| get it up for conexant (tv-card i guess), dont know how to change it09:19
cpk1Phlegyas: so to install extra multimedia codecs do: sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs or: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs09:19
zerak|joe| to the next09:19
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Phlegyaswow CPK that'd be just sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet if it worked09:19
Phlegyaslet me try that :)09:19
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|joe|zerak: try alsamixer -c 109:20
Phlegyasoh yeah i forgot... i cant do it right now09:20
lalohello all09:20
Phlegyashehehe adept has my administration folder locked09:20
Phlegyasi'll have to wait first :)09:20
lalocan so help me converting flv files?09:20
Phlegyashi there Lalo :D09:20
cpk1Phlegyas: did you close adept?09:20
cpk1!adept lock09:20
ubotuadept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB09:20
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|joe|cpk1: is it really everything you need? i remember having troubles with xvid09:21
Phlegyasnot yet cpk it's downloading something09:21
lalohi Phlegyas!!09:21
|joe|cpk1: and for encrypted dvds one needs to get libdvdcss anyway, the correct one is not in the repos afaik09:21
instructorcan I mount a hard drive on a remote machine if I have a login on it?09:21
cpk1!find libdvdcss09:21
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ubotuPackage/file libdvdcss does not exist in edgy09:22
|joe|instructor: if you have root, sure09:22
Phlegyasi dont even know what adept downloads09:22
cpk1liar09:22
Phlegyashahahaha09:22
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zerak|hie| worked09:22
zerak|jie| worked09:22
zerak|joe| worked09:22
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instructor|joe|: What's the syntax?09:22
|joe|!find libdvdcss209:22
ubotuPackage/file libdvdcss2 does not exist in edgy09:22
Phlegyasnope nope nothing exists :P09:22
cpk1it exists in dapper09:22
|joe|hm apt-cache shows it for me09:22
cpk1!find libdvdcss2 dapper09:22
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|joe|but anyway it's the wrong one09:23
ubotuPackage/file libdvdcss2 does not exist in dapper09:23
laloHow can i convert flv videos to avi?09:23
cpk1liar09:23
|joe|instructor: is it in /etc/fstab?09:23
instructor|joe|: How do I put in there?09:23
cpk1Phlegyas: anyways libxine-extracodecs will make almost all multimedia codecs available09:23
instructor10.0.0.5:/dev/hda5 ?09:23
laloOr move files from linux to windows folders09:23
Phlegyasthat's really cool cpk09:23
Phlegyasi'm on 89% with adept i'll try your tip as soon as that one finishes09:24
|joe|instructor: if you don't want to just try "mount /dev/xxxx dir"09:24
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instructor|joe|: Where /dev/xxx is on a remote machine?09:24
|joe|instructor: wait you want to mount remote hd on your machine?09:25
instructorYes09:25
|joe|instructor: aaaah09:25
|joe|instructor: well i don't know any easy way09:25
instructor|joe|: Is there a way to do that without NFS?09:25
|joe|instructor: you will probably have to export it via samba/nfs09:25
instructor|joe|: ^^^09:25
laloHow can i move files from Kubuntu to Windows folders?09:26
instructor|joe|: By have to do you mean HAVE TO09:26
Phlegyasbuilding a house of fire babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy09:26
|joe|instructor: yes, but hey maybe there's some way but i don't know it :)09:26
Phlegyasirrelevant09:26
instructorlalo: share a folder on Windows with rights to change it and and then type smb:/ in Konqueror and drag them across09:26
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Phlegyasjust a music break hehehhehe :P09:26
zerak|joe| might just be invalid configured but then i am unsure how to configure it09:27
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|joe|zerak: is kmix working for you?09:27
laloHow do i do that on Windows?09:27
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instructorRight click the folder you want to share and press h09:28
Phlegyasheeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy09:28
instructorThe rest should be obvious09:28
Phlegyaswhere's that cp guy?09:28
Phlegyashis tip worked; d09:28
Phlegyas:D09:28
zerak|joe| yep09:28
Phlegyaslets go try playing a video file now :)09:28
chxlet's assume I have three pieces of 100GB disks. What are my options if I want speed and a little redundancy? RAID5 is a bit excessive, losing 100G out of 300G09:28
|joe|zerak: so mixers do work you just hear nothing09:28
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cpk1Phlegyas: you still dont have windows media support though09:29
Phlegyasi just noticed cpk :(09:29
Phlegyasanything can be done about that ?09:29
zerak|joe| about it, unless "Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory" indicate error09:29
cpk1wmv isnt as simple but it is still simple09:29
|joe|zerak: have you tried at least line in or something like that?09:29
Phlegyasi'm open for suggestions cpk :)09:30
instructor|joe|: Do I have to install NFS?09:30
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|joe|instructor: samba should be good enough09:30
instructor!nfs09:30
ubotunfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.09:30
zerak|joe| try sound system -> test sound09:30
chxI am thinking of http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=matrixraid&page=2 something like this configuration. Is LVM capable of raiding parts of disks?09:30
|joe|zerak: in that case you have to have arts configured correctlu09:30
|joe|zerak: to try at a lower level look at aplay09:31
cpk1Phlegyas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5 here you go, its still really easy09:31
Phlegyaswell lets go try that one then. thanks a bunch for the tips cpk :)09:31
|joe|zerak: but i'm not sure whether that driver can do hw mixing so you'll probably have to stop arts daemon to try it out09:32
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zerak|joe| kill ...?09:32
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|joe|zerak: don't have to kill just turn off sound system in kde09:33
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Phlegyascan i ask you guys something? is there anyway i can bind my windows key to the Kmenu? so that i can start the Kmenu like the windows START menu?????????????09:33
zerak|joe| or should i say stop ...09:33
cpk1Phlegyas: sure09:33
|joe|Phlegyas: default alt+109:33
|joe|f109:33
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Phlegyasoh that's alright then i can use alt+f1 :)09:33
Phlegyasthanks :D09:33
|joe|but i'm not sure whether you can bind "only" the win key09:34
Phlegyasalthough the win key is easier :P09:34
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zerak|joe| reboot for effect?09:34
|joe|zerak: no09:34
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|joe|zerak: do you have some wav on your hd?09:34
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zerak|joe| no luck, dont really know configurations for sound in linux, called diffrent things09:35
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Phlegyasok we;re downloading restricted codecs now09:35
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Phlegyasstand by for results :P :P :P09:36
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Phlegyasi'm in love with AMOR heheheheh ... he says --> Dont run with scissors :P hehehe smart penguin :P09:36
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cpk1Phlegyas: go to the kmenu then go to system settings then regional and accessibility and then keyboard shortcuts, and the kmenu shortcut is at the very bottom09:36
|joe|zerak: maybe you could try to remove the tv card and try with soundcard only09:36
|joe|zerak: just to try it out09:37
Phlegyasohhhhhhhhhhhhh cpk i've been there but didnt see it. let me check again.09:37
PsiKloPxHey all....09:37
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PsiKloPxdoes anyone have any experience setting up Gmail on Kmail?09:38
cpk1yup09:39
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|joe|zerak: if you want to i can take a look at it sometimes tomorrow with you once again09:39
zerak|joe| try it at the weekend, thanks though09:39
MZMhi. I need a regex to match any string, that contains numbers and is larger than 5 symbols. Anyone?09:39
|joe|zerak: well couldn't help that much ... :)09:40
osh_MZM: What language?09:40
zerak|joe| knows that it finds it even though it calls it the wrong thing09:40
|joe|zerak: are you always on #kubuntu?09:40
zerak|joe| no, mostly not09:40
Phlegyasactually i cant set the winkey alone09:40
Phlegyasit needs the winkey along with something else.09:41
Phlegyaspity :(09:41
zerak|joe| lots of messages going around here09:41
MZMosh_: Actualy it's for Mapserver. I still can not understand regexps :(09:41
cpk1nonsense09:41
|joe|zerak: if you have troubles with sound you should generally start at the lowest level09:41
Phlegyaswhat do you mean nonsense cpk? i tried :) when i press on winkey it says win+09:41
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Phlegyasif i dont press on anything else it doesn accept the winkey alone09:42
|joe|zerak: that means checking alsa is working and that you can play sound directly via alsa09:42
zerak|joe| must know what to check and how it is supposed to look09:42
|joe|zerak: to do this you should stop everything in kde that has anything to do with sound09:42
osh_MZM: This is an excellent page about regexps in Perl. http://www.perl.com/doc/manual/html/pod/perlre.html09:42
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zerak|joe| but then one must know how it is supposed to look09:43
osh_MZM: I know nothing of Mapserver. What's that?09:43
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|joe|zerak: if you'll do that i think modprobe -r should be actually able to remove the driver09:43
|joe|zerak: that's right09:43
MZMosh_: it doesn't matter. It will work same for sed.09:43
|joe|osh_: man perlre :)09:43
guillaume_O Sole Mio09:44
cpk1Phlegyas: yeah i noticed, it looks like its mapped as mod1 =\09:44
Phlegyasmod4 in mine09:44
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osh_|joe|: I know. I've been doing perl-regexps for a while.09:44
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cpk1Phlegyas: you get your video files to play?09:45
osh_Been a while though. Paternety leave right now... =)09:45
Phlegyasstill not the wmv i'm downloading from your link as we speak :)09:45
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|joe|MZM: the simpliest way would be i think kind of [0-9] [0-9] [0-9] [0-9] [0-9] +09:45
MZM|joe|: tnx09:46
|joe|MZM: not tested, just a thought :)09:46
Phlegyasok lets try a wmv file now :D09:46
cntbhi ! How    to   change   resolution  in        kubuntu ?       what     menu   on          Kmenu   ?09:47
PhlegyasHOORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH :)09:47
zeraksystem settings09:47
Phlegyaswe've got wmv :D09:47
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Phlegyasbowwwwwwwwww cpk09:47
Phlegyasthaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanx :)09:47
zerakcntb: system settings -> monitor09:47
cpk1Phlegyas: well i didnt write the wiki for that =)09:47
cntbzerak going there ty09:47
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guillaume_Kubuntu RoX.09:48
Phlegyasthat 's alright you were in the mood to share it with me :D09:48
Phlegyaseasy wikis rock!!!09:48
Phlegyas:D09:48
Phlegyasi hope it doesnt hurt that my first wmv file was one of francine dee :P09:48
Phlegyashehehhehe :) well it plays ... that's all good then :D09:48
zerakcntb if it doesnt detect all your posibilites you might need to read manual and edit a certain file to match (i hope you dont have to)09:48
guillaume_better than britney spears09:48
Phlegyasi'm better than britney :P09:49
cpk1Phlegyas: also you should try using amarok as your music player, i think it is a really good app =D09:49
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cntbpity ubuntu has not unified control center like SUSE09:49
Phlegyasamarok? i'll try that one too cpk. although i liked the kaffeine one :)09:49
osh_guillaume_: I hear she's single again now. Time to make a move perhaps... ;-)09:49
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Phlegyasso i should go try vlc now :)09:49
guillaume_osh_: ouch09:49
zodiakSo,09:49
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jerpyeah, hahahah Britney Spears text messaged Federline with the D word.  How funny is that?09:50
cpk1Phlegyas: amarok is MUCH better than kaffeine as a music player09:50
jerpthat's technology!!109:50
zerakcntb not everything on the same place but quite a deal in system settings, you got 2 tabs there if you noticed (personally i noticed it today), changed since dapper09:50
osh_cntb: Damn straight. Mandriva does it right. Kubuntu is still more of a "hack" but it's free so I'll accept the warts. ;-)09:50
Phlegyasok cpk you had me i'll go try it now then :)09:50
guillaume_A friend of mine said Foobar2000 is much better than amarok. Is he right?09:50
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zodiakI just installed kubuntu on my desktop using the alternative install CD.  I boot for the first time and I get "GRUB Loading stage2.." scrolling infinitely.  This is an AMD64 box, running software RAID 1 on boot disks.09:50
Phlegyaswowwwwwwwwwwwwwww LAST.FM with AMAROK09:51
Phlegyasthat's great :D09:51
Phlegyasi love last.fm :)09:51
zerakMandriva is also free but got a LOT of bugs and Documentation = 0, ubuntu got some doc but not very impressiv doc09:51
bobbydhi09:51
osh_cntb: Why isn't the wireless assistant a part of the kcontrol-centre as an example? It should be imho.09:51
bobbydwhat's the default domain name server in kubuntu?09:51
guillaume_not only last.fm, musicbrainz too ... I'm an amarok lover.09:51
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Phlegyaswhat 's musicbrainz i dont know09:52
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Phlegyasi only use Last.FM and PANDORA09:52
zerakosh_ what do you mean09:52
guillaume_Phlegyas: tag09:52
osh_bobbyd: localdomain. ;-)09:52
cntbosh_09:52
guillaume_Phlegyas: you send a signature of your songs to musicbrainz and it gives you back ID tags09:52
cntbwhat is the binary for kontrol-center ?09:52
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cpk1musicbrainz picard is better to use for tagging instead of the built in amarok musicbrainz09:52
Phlegyasummm like cddb???09:52
guillaume_no09:53
zerakEveryone here should get a console like: Yakuake09:53
guillaume_more sophisticated09:53
Phlegyasoh ok :|09:53
|joe|zerak: 100% right09:53
Phlegyaswhat is a yakauke i dont konw :P09:53
guillaume_A signature of your song is computed and compared with ones in a database09:53
zerakreally rocks when you going to follow a guide =)09:53
zerakQuake console09:53
Phlegyasnow that i got my codecs ia can get yakauke too ? :P09:53
osh_zerak: It's two different ways to setup a net-card depending on if it's a wireless or a normal eth-card. Not the way I'd prefer it.09:53
mbaileyquake style console interface.09:53
Phlegyashahaha :P09:53
guillaume_Phlegyas: yakuake is a Quake console for KDE. You MUST use it09:53
hazard_Is it possible to have ssh 'remember' a password for a machine?09:53
Phlegyasi must ?09:53
Phlegyaswow ... :D09:54
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hazard_Or is it possible to hand off a password to the ssh password prompt?09:54
Phlegyasi'm learning too much for one day :P09:54
osh_zerak: Normal cards go through kcontrol-center, wireless cards through wlassistant...09:54
zerakdoesnt look like quake but you can bind a console to a key and it comes down from above09:54
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guillaume_Phlegyas: hurry up :) "sudo apt-get install yukuake" :p09:54
Phlegyasoh that sounds cool zerak09:54
osh_hazard_: Have a look at "expect" if you're scripting things.09:54
zodiakhazard_ look at ssh shared keys.09:54
|joe|hazard: it's possible, did it once09:54
Phlegyasdid that09:55
zerakthere are 2 variants09:55
Phlegyashahaha09:55
cpk1i just bound ctrl+shift+t to open konsole if i ever want a console up right then and there09:55
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cpk1i already have 4 konsoles always open...09:55
zodiakhazard_: It is more secure than the other options presented (and probably easier to implement also).09:55
Phlegyashmmmm it says cant find package yukuake :(09:55
mbaileymy wireless was configured using the networking panel in control center, once I used the firmware cutter to extract the firmware.09:55
zerakPhlegyas yakuake09:55
Phlegyasahahahaha09:55
guillaume_Phlegyas: did you activated Universe and Multiverse?09:55
Phlegyaspardon my bad :P09:55
guillaume_Ok.09:56
Phlegyasyes guillaume :)09:56
|joe|guillaume_: we did that one or two hours ago :)09:56
guillaume_forget :)09:56
Phlegyasyup unpacking now09:56
Phlegyashahahah JOE09:56
Phlegyas:D09:56
zerakhavent tried the other, yakuake seemed better09:56
hazard_zodiak looking....09:56
Phlegyasok it fetched that one09:56
Phlegyasnow what?09:56
guillaume_now, launch it :)09:56
mbaileytilda is another, but I think it's for gnome.09:56
Phlegyaseasier said than done? :P09:56
guillaume_guaranteed effect :)09:56
zerakosh_ dont got a wireless card but agree if it cant be handled from "System settings" -> network settings09:56
cpk1Phlegyas: just type yakuake in a konsole09:57
Phlegyasoh ok09:57
zeraktilda is good, and yes it is for gnome09:57
hazard_does shared keys need to be implemented on the server and host?09:57
Phlegyasfailed to open devide :(09:57
guillaume_I use Ctrl + ~09:57
zerakit looks a little better09:57
osh_Phlegyas: I assume you've got Katapult. That's a "must have" too.09:57
Phlegyasdamn now what? hahahah :P09:57
Phlegyaswhat 's a katapult?09:57
mbaileyalt-space09:57
Phlegyasyou guys are bombing me with info :P09:57
Phlegyasoh yes09:57
|joe|hazard_: i think you need to store the keys somewhere on the server in your home dir09:58
|joe|heh09:58
Phlegyasi have katapult alt space :P09:58
guillaume_Phlegyas: too much for now ;) come back tomorrow :)09:58
Phlegyashahahaha now what ?09:58
mbaileyit was there by default on edgy.09:58
|joe|Phlegyas: alt+f2 yakuake enter09:58
Phlegyasa screen is jumping :P09:58
guillaume_Phlegyas: now compile KDE4 snapshot09:58
zerakbind it to a ket, f1 or tilde is good09:58
osh_Phlegyas: Quick-launcher. It's great. Bring up the katapult and type any app-name and it'll start. Never use the start menu again... =)09:58
|joe|guillaume_: lol09:58
guillaume_*Joking*09:58
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zerakosh_ why not use console?09:59
Phlegyasthe screen stopped jumping but nothing appeared09:59
Phlegyasi think :(09:59
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|joe|guillaume_: why not actually configure a kernel09:59
andrzej_ircmy adept manager is prone to crashes without notice09:59
guillaume_|joe|: great ^^09:59
|joe|Phlegyas: try f12 now09:59
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Phlegyasahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa09:59
Phlegyasnow something happened :P09:59
guillaume_:)09:59
Phlegyashehehheheh :D09:59
guillaume_and now, reduce the animation during time to 0ms :)10:00
osh_zerak: To start apps? Works but it's not very elegant. Katapult is always there at your fingertips.10:00
Phlegyasso tell me something? is that something like a console window? it is. right?10:00
guillaume_Phlegyas:10:00
Phlegyasummm what?10:01
andrzej_ircdo you experience frequent app crashes in kubuntu 6.1010:01
guillaume_Phlegyas: just try "Ctrl + Shift + n"10:01
Phlegyaswhat should that do?10:01
guillaume_a new tab in yakuake10:01
Phlegyasther's a new session open now10:01
Phlegyasyeah got that :P10:01
guillaume_yeah.10:01
Phlegyaswhat for?10:01
Phlegyasi dont know what to put in the first one10:01
Phlegyashahaha :D10:01
Phlegyasby the way Amarok is really good10:01
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Phlegyaswhere's cpk? good choice cpk :D10:01
guillaume_Since I use yakuake, I never launch konsole anymore10:01
Phlegyasthat's cool guillaume :) it looks fun :)10:02
|joe|zodiak: look at man sshd section authorized_keys10:02
Phlegyasi wonder what of all this i'll rememeber when i wake up :P10:02
Phlegyasok one more question before i hit the Zs.10:02
cpk1Phlegyas: also superkaramba is great fun10:02
Phlegyasmind me asking? :D10:02
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Phlegyassuperkaramba?10:02
Phlegyaswhat's that ?10:02
bobbydPhlegyas: save your irc log10:02
cpk1adds all sorts of cool stuff to your desktop10:03
Phlegyasoh course i will boobyd10:03
Phlegyascool stuff? i want it :D10:03
Phlegyascome on give me that sudo linei10:03
Phlegyashehe i'll add karampa :P10:03
|joe|zodiak: sorry should go to hazard_10:03
snikkeri'm unable to see any char in the firefox's "save as..." window, only a sqaures...10:03
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|joe|hazard_: look at man sshd section authorized_keys10:03
hazard_|joe|?10:03
hazard_I found something I think...10:03
zerakPeople remember that when you write a guide to us noobs, do tell why you do somethink and what it do10:03
Phlegyaswhere's my sudo line for superkarampa? :D10:03
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zerak*something10:04
Hattorijust upgraded to edgy. serverX doesn't start. fixed internet connection. any suggestion? nvidia drivers were installed and working before the dist-upgrade.10:04
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lupine_85sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)10:04
hazard_Oh god, more about X11.10:04
zerakwhat does it say? Complaining about header?10:04
lupine_85that'll /probably/ fix it10:04
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|joe|and sudo apt-get -f a few times10:05
lupine_85the dist-upgrade is a bit rocky ;)10:05
Phlegyasi did it alone :|10:05
Phlegyasi ran sudo supercaramba :|10:05
lupine_85don't forget the lovely dpkg, with -r -f and --force-all10:05
Phlegyasoi it finished10:05
Phlegyasi'll go see my desktop now10:05
pi1lhello, how oyu doin?10:05
lupine_85that's saved my bacon more than once10:05
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|joe|lupine_85: didn't have to use -r and --force-all10:06
Phlegyasthere's nothing on my desktop with superkaramba10:06
Phlegyasoh i forgot to run it hahaha10:06
lupine_85you didn't; I did10:06
bobbydHattori: try the "nv" driver first10:06
|joe|lupine_85: but had to manually remove few pkgs and stuff10:06
cntb  '  '   10:06
Phlegyasnow i see something :)10:06
lupine_85cool10:06
|joe|cntb: now i understand10:06
pi1lcan anybody tell me, how can i get and install linux kernel headers and source code for the Running kernel in ubuntu?10:06
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lupine_85rtl text works in konversation10:06
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lupine_85pi1l: sudo apt-get install linux-headers10:06
cntbcannot find how to lower resollution  on screen10:06
pi1llupine_85, and where would they be?10:07
Phlegyaswho was it that proposed me to install superkaramba???10:07
Phlegyasit's cool hehehe10:07
lupine_85 in /usr/src10:07
pi1llupine_85, but, i'll check it myself, thank you10:07
pi1lthanx10:07
|joe|cntb: do you have the resolutions configured in xorg?10:07
hazard_Anyone have any experience with avahi-deamon?10:08
hazard_mdns responder?10:08
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cntbyes10:08
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cpk1Phlegyas: i think kubuntu comes with superkaramba10:08
pi1lresolutions are cranky i think10:08
hazard_any idea why mine no matter what I do or configure won't work in conjuction with ssh?10:08
|joe|cntb: for the simple way try ctrl+alt+gray+ or ctrl+alt+gray-10:08
hazard_err... ping claims it can't fint the host either.10:09
cntbII want to know the graphic tool and konsole tool for   changing resolution10:09
|joe|cntb: does it work?10:09
|joe|cntb: if you want to swicth the resol incl. virtual desktop you should try xrandr10:09
Phlegyascould be actually cpk cant really remember if i saw it before10:09
Phlegyasbut it looks nice anyways :)10:09
cntbsimple way try ctrl+alt+gray+ or ctrl+alt+gray- doesnot work now10:09
zerakcntb or whoever wanted mandriva style, all in one, Open conquer10:09
|joe|cntb: xrandr -q and then xrandr -s10:09
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cntband fonts are terribly small10:11
cpk1Phlegyas: you open it up?10:12
Phlegyasummm i lost you there cpk what are we talking about ?10:12
Phlegyassuperkaramba you mean?10:12
Phlegyasyeah i'm installing thingies :)10:12
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cpk1Phlegyas: the liquid weather+ theme is really popular also you can get tons more by going to kde-look.org10:12
cpk1they have a karamba section10:12
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Phlegyasoh that's cool thanks  cpk10:13
Phlegyasbut there's already tons in this superkaramba10:13
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cpk1well its doesnt have kstatus which is the system monitor i'm using =P10:13
cpk1it*10:13
ToyMananyone know if winmodem support in edgy has been fixed?10:14
lolhow fix this bug in kubuntu 6.06 ? http://www.speedtouch.co.uk/330highspeed.asp10:14
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jerphahaha, I like KDE's "Kill Bill" wallpaper10:15
cpk1Phlegyas: also you can configure some of the themes to suit your own personal taste by editing the .theme file10:15
guillaume_goodbye10:15
guillaume_quit10:15
jerpthe three monkeys10:15
eeroWill fiery be based on edgy or what? Will it be stable in the beginning?10:16
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Phlegyasgood i downloaded lots of stuff for supercaramba :d10:23
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Phlegyasi only have one question now guys :D irrelevant with superkaramba10:24
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PhlegyasI want to know what's the best p2p for the linux community :)10:24
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Phlegyasi was using emule in XP. any suggestions for my kde ?10:24
|joe|Phlegyas: torrent is not good enough?10:25
Phlegyastorrent 's good joe but you cant find little things in torrents now can you ?10:25
hollywoodbPhlegyas: amule is much like emule I believe... xo is xmule and mldonkey10:25
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Phlegyaslike a song or whatever. and besides... if you want something local ... what about it then ?10:25
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|joe|Phlegyas: never used pure p2p only torrent10:26
Phlegyasamule then? oki :) i'll tree10:26
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cpk1Phlegyas: well frostwire is pretty much your only option i think10:26
Phlegyasok joe it's really safer and jas lots of stuff10:26
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Phlegyasfrostwire?10:26
Phlegyasnever heard of it cpk :|10:26
Phlegyasbeen using it yourself?10:26
cpk1its limewire10:26
cpk1nope10:26
|joe|ok i'm gone, bye10:26
cpk1i only use bit torrent10:26
Hawkwind!frostwire10:26
ubotufrostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire10:26
gnomefreakfrostwire amule limewire among alot of others10:26
Phlegyasi hate limewire10:26
Phlegyas!amule10:27
ubotuamule: client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 1239 kB, installed size 3368 kB10:27
gnomefreaknicotine10:27
Phlegyaslets try amule :)10:27
Phlegyas!nicotine10:27
ubotunicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 373 kB, installed size 1956 kB10:27
gnomefreakPhlegyas: please use /msg ubotu10:27
Phlegyasoh ok gnomefreak10:27
Phlegyassorry :(10:27
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gnomefreakbtw Hawkwind frostwire == nightmare to me atm i will get back to it next week someime :()10:28
Hawkwindgnomefreak: That's all p2p apps actually :)  That's why I use torrents10:28
gnomefreakHawkwind: building it not using it10:28
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gnomefreakHawkwind: its missing all kinds of files needed to build for repos10:29
Hawkwindgnomefreak: All the same.  Using them, building them, all a major pain10:29
h3sp4wngnomefreak: the dev says he won't fix it (wants to add a torrent client to the next release)10:29
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hfhfyou can get limewire instead of frostwire10:29
gnomefreakh3sp4wn: thats why im fixing it10:29
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Hawkwindlimewire is far worse than frostwire10:29
fannagoganna!apt-get10:29
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)10:29
hfhfnot from my experiences10:29
h3sp4wngnomefreak: So are you forking it ?10:29
gnomefreakh3sp4wn: i building an edgy version10:29
Phlegyasthis ubotu is lovely hehehe he knows everything :P10:30
hfhfwhat is xubuntu10:30
fannagogannaxubuntu is ubuntu with Xfce10:30
fannagogannaanother desktop10:30
gnomefreakh3sp4wn: i have to find out exactly what they plan on doing before i can name it if i get it to work right.10:30
hfhfalright10:30
hfhfwhen does the bot come into action?10:30
fannagogannawhat??10:31
gnomefreakhfhf: /msg ubotu something10:31
hfhfoh10:31
hfhfalright10:31
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gnomefreakhfhf: /msg ubotu xfce10:31
gnomefreak:)10:31
h3sp4wnhfhf: xfce has a good composite manager and is fast but I think the theme looks awful10:32
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fannagogannawell, there are all these nice Xfce themes out there10:32
fannagogannai think you can get them with apt-get10:32
fannagogannapersonally, i like KDE but Xfce has the speed going for it :)10:32
h3sp4wnIf I can find a dark and fast xfce theme I might use it for a bit10:33
borisyeltsinif I have access to a machine over ssh how do I figure out what ports are open on it?10:33
fannagogannahmm, sounds like you need some kind of open port mapper like nmap10:33
h3sp4wnborisyeltsin: sudo netstat -plunt10:34
fannagogannabut i don't know anything about nmap10:34
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Phlegyasok guys i'm beat10:35
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borisyeltsinh3sp4wn: what part of that output is the port number? I see a whole column of zeros under recv-Q.. which I thought would be the port..10:35
Phlegyasi;ll hit the Zs now. i guess that was enough information for one night :)10:35
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Phlegyasthanks a bunch joe, cpk and the rest of the guys.10:35
Phlegyasi'll see you soon :) take good care :)10:36
h3sp4wnborisyeltsin: local address (the port is after the :)10:36
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borisyeltsinoh. hehe, thanks;) Damn.. I thought I killed all the ipv6 stuff... but there are ipv6 entries. lame.10:36
h3sp4wn:::22 (for ssh for eample)10:36
siefkencp_can any one tell me how to use postfix as an smpt server?10:36
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h3sp4wnI dunno why people don't use ipv6 it can do some pretty funky stuff10:36
yaniswhen  I try to apt-get mplayer-686 I get the following : Package mplayer-686 is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:37
yanisThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or10:37
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yanisis only available from another source10:37
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siefkencp_h3sp4wn: its too expensive to consider using ip 610:37
cntbt find changing resolution in kcontrol . can you help ?10:37
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cntbcant find changing resolution in kcontrol . can you help ? h3sp4wn10:37
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h3sp4wnsiefkencp_: Why you can get a free ipv6 over ipv4 gateway service10:37
h3sp4wnsiefkencp_: Then you can have as many external ip's as you want10:38
h3sp4wncntb: No idea (I just set mine from xorg.conf)10:38
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siefkencp_h3sp4wn: indeed but the other equipment that the tell coms dont want to pay to upgrade lies the problem10:38
cntbso h3sp4wn it is still manual10:39
cntbtoo bad10:39
siefkencp_what benifit do i have to impliment a pre-mature technology if its going to hinder my ability to hire help in the future10:39
h3sp4wncntb: Not sure - what resolution do you want ?10:39
cntbh3sp4wn: 1024x76810:40
h3sp4wncntb: And what is it running at ?10:40
cntbmeaning video card?10:40
h3sp4wnsiefkencp_: the road to innovation is not paved at all10:40
cntbtis a good old 15 inch mag monitor10:40
h3sp4wncntb: what is the current resolution ?10:41
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cntbh3sp4wn:  very high how can I tell10:41
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h3sp4wncntb: /var/log/Xorg.0.log10:43
cntbOK10:43
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h3sp4wncntb: Just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:43
yorickhi10:44
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h3sp4wncntb: remove the resolutions you don't need from the bottom part10:44
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h3sp4wncntb: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > sudo /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum (run that afterwards)10:44
siefkencp_h3sp4wn: the road to inovation costs $$ and ROI is the biggest factor holding back key developments in the modernworld10:44
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cntbVirtual size is 1280x1024 (pitch 2048)10:45
cntbwhat does md5sum do to xorg.conf?10:46
h3sp4wnremove all references to 1280x1024 (from Section "Screen")10:46
cntbOK10:46
h3sp4wncntb: resets that md5sum (sometimes dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg can complain otherwise - thinking about future)10:46
yoricksomebody has 3d working in edgy with an ATI 9100?10:47
pi1lcan anybody please tell me what is the safiest way of enabling network on vmware- virtual machine?10:47
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yorickit seems imposible to make 3d working with this card10:48
rahmetlii have updated my dapper to edgy,now i cant boot,i want to rescue my files and configurations of KDE10:48
yorickafter configuring fglrx and disabling composite option, I restart and kdm appear, but kde doesn't start10:49
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yorickkde freezes in splashcreen10:50
rahmetlithe question is what to resque to recover my kde settings.10:50
rahmetli?10:50
jerpcntb, md5 checksum is a way to verify the file you have is the file that was sent10:51
cntbty  jerp10:51
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rahmetligreat succes of updating kubuntu :(10:51
cntband what about dexconf10:52
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allen2003whats kubuntu10:52
rahmetlii didnt like the upgrading procedure :(10:53
fannagogannakubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE10:53
sparris there a reason that the ubuntu mozilla-thunderbird package doesnt provide an icon for thunderbird?  i assume it has something to do with the debian non-free-art thing, but thats no reason to not have any icon at all10:53
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jmichaelxlupine_85: if you get the chance, could you tell me whether or not you have an Edgy repo for the ralink drivers?10:58
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fribuntuHi again11:00
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fribuntuIs there a way to actually enable flashplayer under KDE/Konqueror without installing Firefox?11:00
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wayne_hello11:04
lupine_85jmichaelx: no, I don't11:04
lupine_85all the cards are supported OOTB11:04
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ml2Hi11:05
fribuntuAhh, found it. You have to install "flashplayer-nonfree" instead of "flashplayer-mozilla".11:05
fribuntuJust one more question: Why is the sound and picture when watching movies with flashplayer so horribly out of sync with the linux player? Is there anything you can do about it?11:05
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ElectrolyteInstall flash 9.11:06
jmichaelxlupine_85: ok, i was just wondering. you helped me set of this adapter in dapper.... i am using your dapper driver for the 2.6.17 kernel (i think), but i am having some problems. it is slower in edgy than it was in dapper, and it disconnects from time to time11:06
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jmichaelxset up*11:06
ElectrolyteWhich I'm a little busy to go through on how to install it, sorry.11:06
jmichaelxlupine_85: maybe having that driver installed is a bad idea....11:07
wayne_i've a question: how to install kubuntu from a cd running ubuntu11:07
jmichaelxwayne_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:08
lupine_85you won't be using my driver in edgy, unless you're also using the old kernel11:09
DHGEwayne_: no way install ubuntu first and then ...11:09
jmichaelxyou will have to install ubuntu first, then the kubuntu desktop11:09
jerpwayne, here's teh best I can do ya........ http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php11:09
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wayne_but there is no install on the cd11:09
DHGEwayne_ right!11:09
wayne_i've both ubuntu and kubuntu cds11:10
ml2you can install ubuntu and change it to kubuntu later11:10
jmichaelxlupine_85: ok, because i added the dapper repo and installed your drivers for the 2.6.17.9 kernel via adept11:10
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lukehi all11:10
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Bubba_Gumphow to disable stepping down in edgy ?11:10
DHGEwayne_ boot K...11:11
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jmichaelxi am going to uninstall that driver and reboot to see if that makes any kind of difference11:11
wayne_then..?11:11
DHGEwayne_ look and click ...11:11
ml2i have a usual wlan-doesn't-work problem in kubuntu, still investigating11:12
lupine_85ah11:12
lupine_85yes, /remove/ those drivers :D11:12
lupine_85there are many reasons why they shouldn't be used11:13
jmichaelxlupine_85: ty for the response! sorry to have botthered you11:13
hollywoodbBubba_Gump: stepping down?11:13
lupine_85np11:13
lupine_85they shouldn't even be in the repo tbh11:13
jerpwayne, here's a quote on that page "The DVD contains both Live Desktop and Alternate installers, as well as the other packages in our main archive."  ........ http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php11:13
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Bubba_Gumphollywoodb: i think this is the term: you know, i'm on a laptop, and the power manager says my mhz is half of what it should be11:14
jmichaelxlupine_85: ok, i removed them.... i hope i still have net access after i reboot lol11:14
jmichaelxthanks again11:14
lupine_85you will have11:14
lupine_85:)11:14
hollywoodbBubba_Gump: its running in 'ondemand' mode... it'll throttle up when it needs to... keeps your laptop cooler with negligible performance effect11:15
Bubba_Gumpcool11:15
Bubba_Gumpthanks :)11:15
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wayne_ok thank you friends i'll give it a try11:16
wayne_bye11:16
steveireHey. I want to monitor an application so that I know when a file is saved, and can run a bash script when the file is saved. It would also be acceptable if I could run the script whenever the file changed, and just monitored the file. Is this possible?11:17
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lupine_85steveire: possible yes. PITA definitely11:19
steveirePITA?11:19
lupine_85pain in the not-a-donkey11:19
steveireah.11:19
lupine_85you could poll the file regularly (relatively simple), or take an event-based approach11:19
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steveireand how would I take an event based approach?11:22
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lupine_85you'd need to modify the program to notify you when it edits the file11:25
lupine_85or you could hack the kernel ext3 driver. or there's lots of ways to do it, I guess11:26
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steveirehttp://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/faq.html#what_is_fam <<< Looks promising lupine_85.11:27
lupine_85that does look good11:28
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steveireis the a way to get dpkg -c through apt?11:39
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BluesKaj!Demudi11:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Demudi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:40
gnomefreaksteveire: dpkg and apt are seperate apps.11:40
gnomefreakapts -c might be differnet than dpkg's11:41
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ZarephathHiya gnomefreak:11:44
steveiregnomefreak: I can't seem to make it print anything like that anyway.11:44
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gnomefreakhi Zarephath11:45
gnomefreaksteveire: what does the -c switch do in dpkg?11:46
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steveiregnomefreak: lists files in the package. dpkg -c /var/apt/cache/archive/<something>11:46
Digital_PioneerHi. I need to force the device node /dev/ttyACM0 to appear at /dev/usb/acm/0 instead. How do I do that?11:47
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venkat_hey can somebody tell me how to enable SSL 2 in firefox?!11:49
gnomefreaksteveire: dpkg is used for files installed or after downloaded. apt is used for different things apt-cache is most likely the one you want to man for that but i dont think it has that option11:49
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jobless_hey can somebody tell me how to enable SSL 2 in firefox?!11:49
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Digital_Pioneerjobless_: What version?\11:50
jobless_Digital_Pioneer  2.0! in kubuntu11:51
Digital_Pioneerjobless_: DK, all I see is 3...11:51
jobless_Digital_Pioneer  i need 2.0 as my school uses an older type of certificate !11:51
hollywoodb!11:51
Digital_Pioneerjobless_: I'd think it would do it automatically. I'm using 2.0 on Kubuntu Edgy, and haven't had any trouble, but I don't know....11:51
Digital_Pioneerjobless_: Have you tried deselecting use 3.0?11:52
jobless_Digital_Pioneer  the problem is tha t i am unable to view any webpages that use ssl 2.0 as there is only support for ssl 3.011:52
jobless_Digital_Pioneer   tried it ..no use!11:53
Digital_Pioneerjobless_: There's only an option for 3.0. It may still support it.11:53
Digital_PioneerHmm.11:53
Digital_Pioneerjobless_: You asked #firefox?11:53
jobless_Digital_Pioneer  on irc.freenode.net?11:54
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Digital_Pioneerjobless_: I think it exists...11:54
jobless_Digital_Pioneer   i c it ..11:55
Digital_Pioneerjobless_: It's there. DK if it's used much, but there's a good number of nicks there (IMO)11:55
Digital_PioneerCan ANYONE help me change this /dev node??? Is it possible?11:57
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Admiral_Chicagohow do i fix a "debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process"12:03
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letalishi all12:04
Admiral_Chicagohello12:05
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Kheldoronhey!12:10
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Kheldoronwhats up?12:10
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lucky_hi12:10
lucky_any one here12:10
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Kheldoronyeah im here12:10
Kheldoron:)12:10
lucky_oh hi12:10
Kheldoronhey12:10
lucky_so i am new to this whole thing12:11
Kheldoronyou know anything about wlan setup in kubuntu?12:11
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lucky_no12:11
Kheldoronhehe.. u me both12:11

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