[12:14] <hazard> personally, I like echo "" >test
[12:14] <shahbaz_> anybody who can help me with beryl on edgy
[12:14] <hyperactivecrond> shabaz_: /join #ubuntu-xgl
[12:14] <Kannix_> *sigh* I can't make up my mind. Should I use Gnome or KDE ...
[12:15] <Kannix_> In KDE I like amarok and Kmail. However, I don't like the way KDE handles non-kde applications, such as Firefox.
[12:15] <Kannix_> I always have problems with the font settings.
[12:15] <Sanne> Kannix_: you can have KDE apps on Gnome or vice versa
[12:16] <Kannix_> Sanne: But the whole point of "integration" is gone if I do that.
[12:16] <inteliwasp> i am trying to install some software from source but i get errors with libjpeg and qt, how can i resolve them?
[12:16] <Sanne> Kannix_: hmmm, never bothered me that much
[12:17] <Kannix_> Sanne: Right now for example, I am running Amarok on Gnome and it looks kind of funny.
[12:17] <letalis> if i want to set an environment variable for kde, where would be the best place to set that at?
[12:17] <letalis> i want to disable ipv6 lookups
[12:17] <Sanne> Kannix_: you would still need to use kcontrol for configuring kde apps
[12:17] <hazard> I usually dump them in my bashrc file, but you might be talking about something else
[12:17] <Kannix_> Sanne: And using KMail in Gnome ... well ... it might work, but it will probably be hellish to set up so clicking on "send mail" will fire it up etc.
[12:18] <Sanne> inteliwasp: paste the errors to a pastebin, maybe somebody knows
[12:18] <inteliwasp> !ipv6 > letalis
[12:18] <markelhas> hummm ok them
[12:18] <markelhas> try later on
[12:18] <markelhas> ce u
[12:18] <inteliwasp> !ipv6 | letalis
[12:18] <ubotu> letalis: To disable ipv6 read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv4
[12:18] <markelhas> thnks for the help
[12:18] <Sanne> Kannix_: yes, that may be. Never tried that, so I can't really comment on that.
[12:18] <Kannix_> Sanne: And to make Amarok stream via my proxy, I already had to install some KDE networking stuff because it ignores the Gnome proxy settings and cannot set its own.
[12:19] <Kannix_> Sanne: So from an enduser point, KDE would probably be the better choice for me.
[12:19] <hyperactivecrond> Kannix_: yes.
[12:19] <markelhas> kubuntu to desktop have to wait a little mor :)
[12:19] <hazard> vpc is so slooooooww....
[12:19] <Sanne> Kannix_: seems so
[12:20] <markelhas> exit
[12:20] <hyperactivecrond> although kannix, if you wish to use AIM with Kopete, visit http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136566 and download and install the patched version available at the bottom of the page
[12:20] <letalis> yeah i did that, it just seems like konq takes forever to load some webpages which opera or fiefox do flawlessly
[12:20] <inteliwasp> my error log from ./configure   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30689/
[12:20] <letalis> and frankly, i like konq better than both of em
[12:20] <letalis> :)
[12:20] <hazard> other than konquror's name, it sorta annoys me.
[12:21] <Kannix_> hyperactivecrond: Well, I use neither.
[12:21] <Kannix_> hyperactivecrond: that is AIM and Kopte.
[12:21] <Sanne> inteliwasp: it doesn't find the qt development headers. Did you install them? Some package with -dev and qt in it's name ;)
[12:21] <inteliwasp> letalis:  there are firefox tweeks out there to help...
[12:21] <hyperactivecrond> Kannix_: ok just making sure :)
[12:21] <letalis> yeah what i am saying is i think kde is still doing ipv6 lookups
[12:22] <letalis> i want to set the kde env variable to disable it but i am unsure as to where i would need to do it
[12:22] <letalis> just add it to my shell rc?
[12:22] <Sanne> inteliwasp: I think it's: libqt3-mt-dev
[12:22] <hazard> should work
[12:22] <Kannix_> hyperactivecrond: Gnome is written in C, KDE in C++. That's why I am reluctant. I can read C quite fluently and only "spell" C++. In my experience, C leads to better performance most of the time, too.
[12:23] <letalis> the other thing i have issues with is setting zsh as my default shell, when i do kdm wont let me log into X
[12:23] <letalis> i did a workaround for it but id like to actually set zsh as my default shell
[12:24] <suntzu> please how do i know why i have some packages retained (not upgraded)
[12:25] <Kannix_> suntzu: probably because some depending packages are not ready for upgrade yet?
[12:25] <Sanne> inteliwasp: for the other libs, try libjpeg62-dev and libpng12-dev, that's what I have installed
[12:25] <suntzu> Kannix_ : is there any way to know which package is impeding the upgrade?
[12:25] <hazard> what option would I use with cp to have it copy something ONLY if the target file dosen't already exsist?
[12:26] <Kannix_> suntzu: Do you have "aptitutude" installed?
[12:26] <Kannix_> suntzu: That states it usually quite elaborately why updates are not working.
[12:26] <suntzu> yes, but i use apt-get should i use aptitude instead?
[12:27] <suntzu> ok
[12:27] <inteliwasp> wile i am waiting on adept, is there any known problems with xmms in 6.10? or has mine just craped out?
[12:27] <aldin> 30 times mounted check forced-> how to disable this, btw ext3 FS
[12:27] <Sanne> inteliwasp: did you get all my suggestions?
[12:27] <Kannix_> suntzu: Yes, use aptitude.
[12:28] <inteliwasp> Sanne:  yes i did
[12:28] <suntzu> Kannix_ ok thanks
[12:28] <Sanne> inteliwasp: fine, just checking ;)
[12:28] <jpedroza> Is anyone here using the PPC version of Kubuntu?
[12:28] <inteliwasp> Sanne:  they came with the qt dev files
[12:29] <Sanne> inteliwasp: who "they"?
[12:29] <aldin> message: chkdisk, 30 times mounted check forced-> how to disable this, btw ext3 FS
[12:29] <inteliwasp> libjpeg and lib png
[12:29] <Sanne> inteliwasp: ah! ok
[12:29] <inteliwasp> and it would still fail at the same point...
[12:30] <Sanne> inteliwasp: oh!
[12:30] <inteliwasp> Sanne:  want the config.log?
[12:30] <jpedroza> Is there a chanel for the PPC version of Kubuntu?
[12:30] <Sanne> inteliwasp: I just see this package, seems you need it too: libqt3-headers
[12:31] <suntzu> Kannix_ "aptitude upgrade" doesn't give me more information about why packages are retained than apt-get...
[12:31] <Kannix_> suntzu: you start aptitude, push "u" and then "shift U". That should do it.
[12:31] <inteliwasp> Sanne:  installing qt3 dev now with compat as well
[12:32] <suntzu> Kannix_ hehe ok ;)
[12:32] <Sanne> inteliwasp: ok
[12:33] <sledge_at_work> wouf: Well, that error message makes think that your drive might have gone bad.
[12:33] <Sanne> inteliwasp: if it still fails, paste the new error
[12:33] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[12:33] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:34] <inteliwasp> Sanne:  ya it got past qt but now i need kde headers... this is looking like a picky program :P
[12:35] <Dark_Vampire> hu
[12:35] <Dark_Vampire> hi
[12:35] <Sanne> inteliwasp: heh :) That's just how it goes with compiling, configure-install-configure-install... etc
[12:35] <Sanne> inteliwasp: what are you building?
[12:35] <inteliwasp> kpodder
[12:36] <Dark_Vampire> Could use a proxy program, where i can say when he should use a other proxy with other IP
[12:37] <Sanne> inteliwasp: btw, if a program starts with a 'k', chances are it wants qt and kde libs ;)
[12:38] <inteliwasp> Sanne:  is there a reason the "kde" package is not "installed"?
[12:39] <Kannix_> inteliwasp: it is just the devel stuff you need to install "extra"
[12:39] <inteliwasp> and the regular dev too?
[12:39] <Sanne> inteliwasp: kde packages are installed, but not the development headers.
[12:40] <Sanne> inteliwasp: ubuntu focuses on usual desktop use, so most users won't need those devel packages.
[12:41] <inteliwasp> er... i have a brake warning
[12:41] <inteliwasp> break i mean
[12:43] <inteliwasp> Sanne:  when i click to install kde-devel-extras it wants to install 59 other packages "break" itself
[12:43] <Sanne> inteliwasp: what does it say exactly?
[12:44] <inteliwasp> Sanne: BREAK (install)
[12:45] <Sanne> inteliwasp: that doesn't tell me much :). Can you try it from the command line and paste the whole output from your command to the error line? sudo apt-get install packagename
[12:45] <jpedroza> Is anyone using a radeon 9000 with a flat panel? I am trying to figure out why i am getting artifacts on my screen. This is a fresh install.
[12:46] <cpk1> jpedroza: it could be purely hardware, you can get artifacts when the card gets too hot
[12:47] <jpedroza> cpk1: These are pink posterizations around the bottom edges of the screen, The machine hasn't been running all day and this is on the live DVD. i just booted it up.
[12:47] <Sanne> inteliwasp: are you sure you need kde-devel-extras? From the description I would think you don't. It isn't even in main.
[12:47] <inteliwasp> Sanne:  ok it needs the kde-devel but that has errors, give me a min to paste it
[12:48] <jpedroza> cpk1: I think it has to do with the settings for the panel, but I am not sure what the correct settings would be.
[12:49] <Lars_G> Hi uhhh, all, uhhhh... hello? :)
[12:49] <inteliwasp> Sanne: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30695/
[12:50] <FearMoth> hi, does wireless work in edgy? can anyone show me to a tutorial on setting it up? ubuntu dapper let me look through the SSIDs and pick the AP to use, but kubuntu edgy doesn't. when I type my router's SSID and set the WEP key, it still can't connect. anyone else have this problem? all worked well in dapper.
[12:50] <Lars_G> Quick question, I just noticed something odd and I guess it happened as a change in config between dapper and edgy. In short, both KDE's and Gnome's file browsing dialogs show only /home and /media when browing from the root. I guess this is a security issue, but since I am the onyl user on this machine and I'm a sloppy pig, I'd like to know how to reenable showing of all my system's dirs in the browsing dialogs.
[12:50] <Sanne> inteliwasp: what makes you think you need kde-devel from universe? Why don't you try kdebase-dev from main?
[12:51] <Lars_G> Oh don't worry
[12:52] <Lars_G> I need to activate "show hidden files". wow and they're listed on .hidden
[12:52] <Lars_G> nifty
[12:52] <Lars_G> very nifty
[12:52] <Lars_G> thanks all
[12:52] <Sanne> inteliwasp: maybe also kdelibs4-dev
[12:52] <Lars_G> Sanne: kdebase-dev should pull that one
[12:52] <larson9999> i'm staying at a hotel for a couple months that only has wireless so i'm trying to get wireless set up in edgy.  i have a linksys wmp11 card that is working find here on the xubuntu dapper live cd.  i have edgy installed though.  how do
[12:53] <Sanne> Lars_G: yes, but it gives unmet dependencies errors, so I thought trying the official packages from main might be a solution. See inteliwasp's error here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30695/
[12:54] <Sanne> Lars_G: please disregard my last comment...
[12:54] <inteliwasp> Sanne:  well kdebase-dev breaks too
[12:54] <Sanne> inteliwasp: then there's something amiss either with your system, or it's a bug.
[12:55] <inteliwasp> edgy hasent sat well with me for some reason...
[12:56] <Sanne> inteliwasp: I just made a dry run aith kdebase-dev on my dapper, and it doesn't give me errors.
[12:57] <inteliwasp> i wonder if the upgrade really did finish on my computer...
[12:57] <Lars_G> inteliwasp: Are you using apt-ge tor dpkg?
[12:57] <Sanne> inteliwasp: do you have anything installed from unofficial repositories that relates to kde? If not, you might check for bugs on launchpad and maybe report this if it's not already there.
[12:58] <inteliwasp> i am first trying to use adept the apt-get   yes i do have the universe and multiverse repos
[12:58] <Sanne> inteliwasp: those *should* work
[12:59] <Sanne> inteliwasp: with unofficial I meant some user supplied repositories or somesuch
[01:00] <inteliwasp> funny...i dont have the backports or the universe security repos active...
[01:01] <Lars_G> inteliwasp: Also make sure all your repos point to edgy and none to dapper
[01:01] <inteliwasp> Lars_G:  they do
[01:02] <dude_> hi guys
[01:02] <dude_> need some help
[01:03] <dude_> what do you mean by "could not initialize openGL?"
[01:06] <dude_> jucato !
[01:06] <dude_> mawnin!
[01:06] <Jucato> dude_: good morning!
[01:07] <inteliwasp> Sanne:  another thing odd thing about my computer is that there are 33 packages that are upgradable but are not run when i use adept full upgrade
[01:07] <dude_> jucato: help
[01:07] <dude_> jucato: what do you mean by "could not initialize openGL?"
[01:08] <Jucato> dude_: this is after installing the nvidia beta drivers?
[01:09] <Sanne> inteliwasp: hmm, I hope there's some upgrade expert here who can give you a hand... I never did an upgrade myself so far, sorry.
[01:09] <dude_> jucato: yes, actually i managed to run beryl once then after that, could not initialize openGL?
[01:09] <Jucato> hm...
[01:10] <sync350> ok, im really confused right now, cause all the fonts in firefox (menus and stuff in address bar/links/other stuff) and most other applications are all bold.... what should i do to fix this, cause its really pissin me off :p
[01:10] <dude_> jucato: kill X, type as root, rmmod nvidia then modprobe nvidia?
[01:11] <Jucato> dude_: er... I don't know... told you I still haven't gone into xgl stuff yet
[01:11] <dude_> ok
[01:15] <letalis> xgl hijacks opengl. and causes direct rendering to not be possible.
[01:15] <jpedroza> Ok, I am really at a loss here. I have tried many different setting in my xorg.conf file, but I can't get a clear image on my flat panel display.
[01:15] <letalis> ie. if you got anything you like that runs in 3d, you can forget running it via xgl
[01:17] <letalis> something to consider when embarking on the beryl track
[01:17] <letalis> :)
[01:17] <letalis> :)
[01:18] <campbch> ok, day 3 of round 1 getting games to work on linux. so far, i got wine, tried installing cod, and was told yesterday to use a loki installer. i did, didnt work, went to bed.
[01:18] <campbch> now, i have cod installed via the loki installer, but it is saying it cannot finda  file
[01:19] <campbch> and nothing online is helping
[01:20] <campbch> it is giving me the same error - Unhandled exception: page fault on write access to 0x00000001 in 32-bit code (0x0016fedb), as it did when wine wouldn't complete the install
[01:28] <campbch> is anyone here? or is everyone idle? :'(
[01:31] <Lars_G> In channels as full as these there are normally a few active people, usually when you get no answer in the middle of silence it means nobody knows the answer right then
[01:32] <campbch> not expecting an answer, but the likelyhood of over 100 people saying nothing simultaneously for nearly 5 minutes seemed funny
[01:32] <campbch> normally what happens when i d/c
[01:33] <siliticx> Good day folks
[01:33] <lters> campbch: what was the question?
[01:34] <siliticx> try #2 on trying to setup the ATI drivers
[01:34] <campbch> it's an odd one :( i get an unhandled exception whenever i run this in wine... ill get it one sec...
[01:34] <siliticx> !ati
[01:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:34] <campbch> Unhandled exception: page fault on write access to 0x00000001 in 32-bit code (0x0016fedb)
[01:34] <campbch> !wine
[01:34] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[01:35] <sync350> ok, im really confused right now, cause all the fonts in firefox (menus and stuff in address bar/links/other stuff) and most other applications are all bold.... what should i do to fix this, cause its really pissin me off :p
[01:35] <lters> campbch: why not vmplayer?
[01:35] <campbch> vmplayer?
[01:35] <siliticx> mplayer or vnc, whats the best bet?
[01:35] <siliticx> errr
[01:35] <siliticx> nlc
[01:35] <siliticx> *vlc
[01:35] <hazard> vlc?
[01:35] <hazard> there you go
[01:35] <campbch> !vmplayer
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vmplayer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <lters> campbch: lets u run xp/2k etc navtive
[01:35] <campbch> ubotu makes me feel better about not knowing what vmplayer is
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about makes me feel better about not knowing what vmplayer is - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <campbch> which is better, then?
[01:36] <campbch> i thought wine was more compatable?
[01:36] <campbch> im trying to get call of duty to run
[01:36] <lters> campbch: lets u run full windows.
[01:36] <lters> no messing around or half broke stuff. sudo apt-get install vmplayer
[01:38] <campbch> waiiit a sec
[01:38] <campbch> how does that work?
[01:38] <campbch> the only install of windows i could possibly have is the OEM, which wipes my HD
[01:39] <lters> nope
[01:39] <campbch> hmmm?
[01:39] <lters> install the player.
[01:39] <campbch> so how does it work?
[01:39] <lters> create a config here: easyvmx.com
[01:39] <Sanne> campbch, lters : I don't think running 3D games in vmplayer would be too much fun.
[01:39] <campbch> :p word from above?
[01:39] <campbch> so that's a no-go?
[01:40] <lters> I don't do 3d, but have friends who say it works.
[01:40] <lters> vmplayer uses a file for the hd, and XP thinks it is a real computer
[01:41] <Sanne> campbch: vmplayer simulates a whole pc including a graphics card. You won't have access to the whole power of your real card. But for hassle free apps which don't need hardware acceleration it is very awesome. But just try it out.
[01:42] <Sanne> campbch: here are some links: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVmPlayer?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=vmplayer&fullsearch=Text
[01:43] <siliticx> running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg again.i hope i wont have to format this time
[01:43] <campbch> im running a laptop with 1gig of ram, 128mb integrated video card... i think COD is going to be shaky enough
[01:43] <Sanne> campbch: what is COD?
[01:44] <campbch> call of duty
[01:44] <campbch> :P
[01:44] <Sanne> :)
[01:44] <Lars_G> lters: Nope it wont work well
[01:44] <Lars_G> vmware is NOT designed for games
[01:45] <Lars_G> Pray the game works in cedega (and pay for cedega) or dual boot
[01:45] <campbch> ok, in which case, i won't use it... but that brings me back to the original question
[01:45] <campbch> Unhandled exception: page fault on write access to 0x00000001 in 32-bit code (0x0016fedb) <<< what does it MEAN, and how do i fix it?
[01:45] <Lars_G> you can only fix it if you have the source code
[01:45] <lters> Lars_G: good to know, thanks
[01:45] <campbch> everything is PERFECT it even puts the big black box that goes there before the screen resizes and BAM it closes
[01:46] <Lars_G> I wouldn't call that perfect you know
[01:46] <campbch> and i dont want to get cedega :'( this is one game that should work without those kinds of problems
[01:46] <campbch> perfect IE nothing else is wrong
[01:46] <campbch> that i can see
[01:46] <Lars_G> is it a native linux game?
[01:46] <campbch> and i really want to see how my laptop runs in 3d compared to before
[01:46] <Lars_G> Was it ported by loki?
[01:46] <campbch> there is a loki installer
[01:47] <Lars_G> is it a native game? and who did the port?
[01:47] <campbch> not a native game, there is an installer, that you run, and it gives you shell files that run the game for you
[01:47] <letalis> if its got a loki installer you may be able to get away with just having wine installed
[01:47] <Lars_G> So it "should" run in wine and doesn't that will be hard if possible at all to fix
[01:47] <campbch> it handles the mounting, unmounting of disks between the change and
[01:47] <campbch> ok
[01:47] <campbch> again
[01:47] <letalis> it works for soldier of fortune II
[01:48] <campbch> i got it installed, am running in wine, and this is what i am doing
[01:48] <campbch> but WINE gives me Unhandled exception: page fault on write access to 0x00000001 in 32-bit code (0x0016fedb) in the console when i run it
[01:48] <Lars_G> Correct
[01:48] <campbch> why does wine say this? what is causing this particular problem?
[01:48] <campbch> this game is rated as 100% perfect by the appdb, so it SHOULD be working, which it does
[01:48] <siliticx_> !ati
[01:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:48] <Lars_G> You would need to learn how to code. Create a debug version of wine, hook to it with a debugger, debug the code, and then spent some time recoding wine files until it works.
[01:49] <Lars_G> or, try a different version of wine
[01:49] <campbch> it works
[01:49] <campbch> they say it works
[01:49] <campbch> and im using the version
[01:49] <campbch> im sure of it
[01:49] <Lars_G> THE version?
[01:49] <campbch> that makes it work
[01:49] <campbch> yes
[01:49] <Lars_G> Then it's working!
[01:49] <campbch> 9.16 is tested
[01:49] <campbch> but 9.24 is current, i went out and got 9.16
[01:49] <campbch> 9.9 is repository :( dont know how that happened
[01:49] <letalis> whats your setup i386? amd64 what?
[01:49] <Lars_G> good question
[01:50] <campbch> i386
[01:50] <letalis> well that rules out the arch problems, if their were any to be had :)
[01:50] <campbch> agreed
[01:51] <campbch> that was my first thing, i went to #winehq to see if there were any args i could pass to force it to read in 32bit
[01:51] <campbch> but noone is there
[01:51] <letalis> its odd that the loki installer isnt working though
[01:51] <campbch> it is working
[01:51] <campbch> wine gives me the error
[01:51] <campbch> the loki installer already did its job
[01:51] <letalis> usually it sets up the configuration for wine with the settings thatll make the game run
[01:51] <letalis> which it obviously didnt do lol
[01:53] <letalis> this is for call of duty did i read that right?
[01:53] <campbch> again, i made a change someone suggested and removed the extras from the list of possible binaries, got Unhandled exception: illegal instruction in 32-bit code (0x0016fef1)
[01:53] <campbch> yes
[01:54] <letalis> let me check the cedega wiki for problems that theyve had, and i might be able to help you a little bit
[01:54] <campbch> not cedega, im in wine
[01:54] <campbch> i cant buy cedega
[01:54] <letalis> cedega and wine are very closely related
[01:54] <campbch> yes
[01:54] <campbch> but not for quite some time
[01:54] <siliticx_> erm, lets say i change xorg.conf, do ihave to ctrl+alt+backspace?
[01:55] <campbch> we can try, i guess, but it didnt come up when i googled the error
[01:55] <vipercat> would someone please point me in the direction of the upgrade instructions using alternate cd ?
[01:55] <dude_> jucato: what the command of killing an app, my kaffeine doesn't open
[01:56] <Sanne> siliticx: that's one way to restart the x server, which you would need to do if you want your modified xorg.conf to be used. So yes ;)
[01:57] <letalis> judging from the versions of cedega its known to run on, it has a pretty high probability of running in wine, the thing is somewhere its hanging up and dying.
[01:57] <letalis> are your video drivers configured in X for direct rendering?
[01:58] <letalis> and what type of video card are we talking about
[01:59] <campbch> integrated
[01:59] <campbch> intel, 64mb
[01:59] <campbch> how do i check whether x is configured right?
[01:59] <Sanne> vipercat: Under section "Upgrading using apt-get", point 4. "If you have the edgy alternate install CD": https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[02:00] <letalis> campbch: i imagine that if youre coming from a version of windows that CoD ran there before you switched over
[02:00] <vipercat> thankyou
[02:00] <campbch> i wiped everything when i switched
[02:01] <letalis> so CoD ran in windows before
[02:01] <campbch> yes
[02:01] <campbch> and still does
[02:01] <letalis> ok
[02:01] <campbch> in a laptop right next to this one
[02:01] <letalis> im talking about the machine in question
[02:01] <Sanne> vipercat: you're welcome, and good luck :)
[02:01] <letalis> linux games can be very pecular as to what kinds of hardware they run in
[02:03] <campbch> ack
[02:03] <campbch> well
[02:03] <campbch> i don't know :(
[02:03] <campbch> how do i check?
[02:03] <campbch> because the game definately ran in windows
[02:03] <JackPhil> when i quit the kde session (with xgl), it always crash
[02:03] <letalis> the machine that you now have linux on had windows on it before right?
[02:04] <letalis> im not trying to be an ass, just merely trying to assess the situation :)
[02:04] <JackPhil> is the ubuntu kernel compiled with CONFIG_REGPARM=y?
[02:05] <h3sp4wn> JackPhil: grep CONFIG_REGPARM /boot/linux-image-`uname -r`
[02:06] <h3sp4wn> JackPhil: No that is not what it is but the config is in /boot
[02:06] <Sanne> JackPhil: you might be able to find out by looking at /boot/config-your-kernel-version
[02:06] <Sanne> h3sp4wn: :)
[02:06] <spiderworm> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=10903.0 <---- anyone able to help me keep the screen going black during certain session types?
[02:07] <dude_> jucato: help
[02:11] <JackPhil> i want try oss because the alsa can't drive my sound card
[02:13] <JackPhil> how to temporarlly disable alsa?
[02:13] <JackPhil> i try to remove alsa-base, the snd modules is still loaded
[02:14] <siliticx> stupid thing
[02:14] <siliticx> my sound decided to stop working yet again.
[02:14] <siliticx> !ati
[02:14] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:15] <inteliwasp> how do i disable control of my laptop buttons? i am going to use some other software
[02:18] <letalis> lol try to help someone and they flood themselves off of irc with dmesg output.
[02:18] <letalis> good lord.
[02:18] <letalis> :)
[02:18] <letalis> campbch: as a rule, dont paste that much text to irc. it dislikes it
[02:18] <letalis> :)
[02:19] <campbch> yep :P
[02:19] <campbch> it didnt seem like so much when i grabbed it
[02:19] <inteliwasp> anyone know what i am talking about?
[02:19] <siliticx> anyone knows if an audigy 2 zs needs drivers or something
[02:19] <letalis> if you look through that stuff, you should see where the kernel probed the devices on the system
[02:19] <letalis> one will be the video card
[02:19] <letalis> probably the chipset
[02:20] <campbch> :o
[02:20] <campbch> i don't understand.
[02:20] <letalis> actually chipset is important.
[02:20] <campbch> it's the 915/910gm/gms somethingorother from intel?
[02:21] <letalis> if you know that much, thats what youre looking for in the dmesg output
[02:21] <letalis> after you know exactly what it is then you can start the howto hunt on it
[02:21] <letalis> brb smoke
[02:23] <Sanne> siliticx: you can find the name of the module for your sound card here: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/
[02:25] <campbch> where is xorg.conf located/
[02:25] <campbch> ?
[02:25] <campbch> !xorg
[02:25] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:25] <ash211>  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:28] <campbch> ok, im using an intel i810ish graphics chipset, as it is set in xorg.conf, so i dont see what the problem is.
[02:28] <dtorres> hey guys maybe one of you can help me i downloaded a package gpar2 to be exact after trying to install some of the dependecies the package is not broken. however i can unistall nor reinstall it and its not allowing me to do anying with apt-get its complaining about the package being broken
[02:30] <Hawkwind> dtorres: sudo apt-get -f install
[02:30] <dtorres> tried that
[02:31] <dtorres> E: The package gpar2 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it
[02:31] <dtorres> thats the error i get
[02:31] <jobless_> hey i need help configuring wireless networks in kubuntu!
[02:31] <jobless_> i see the networks but i am unable to connect ..! :(
[02:33] <larson9999> got the wireless working!  now to get the ethernet card working so this can be a gateway
[02:33] <xsacha> ethernet card doesn't 'just work'? :(
[02:33] <dtorres> > dpkg: error processing gpar2 (--remove):
[02:33] <dtorres> >  Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should
[02:33] <dtorres> >  reinstall it before attempting a removal.
[02:33] <dtorres> > Errors were encountered while processing:
[02:33] <dtorres> >  gpar2
[02:33] <jobless_> larson9999 i am having problem with wireless can you help? it seems that u solved the problem!
[02:33] <digivore> !chmod
[02:33] <ubotu> The files and directories on an Ubuntu system are organized according to a standard, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard - file permissions are explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions - All filenames and directory names (and many other things) are case sensitive in Linux
[02:34] <jobless_> !botsnack
[02:34] <ubotu> Yum!
[02:35] <martiny> hola
[02:35] <digivore> if i do 'chmod +x kate'   will i always run kate as su when i just type 'kate'
[02:35] <dtorres> nevermind found something on the forums
[02:35] <lters> digivore: no
[02:36] <larson9999> jobless_: i don't know.  i didn't really do much.  just downloaded and exctracted the windows driver.  and then i followed the ndis wrapper instructions on the unofficial ubuntu edgy guide
[02:36] <lters> digivore: just "kate" will run as the current user.
[02:36] <jobless_> larson9999 i can get the card to work .. but i am unable to connect to my school network!!
[02:36] <digivore> how can i run it as su just by clicking on the icon?
[02:37] <Hawkwind> digivore: Why would you want to ?
[02:37] <lters> digivore: change your icon properties to do kdesu kate for the command
[02:37] <digivore> if i just type kate, i can't save.
[02:37] <Hawkwind> digivore: You could edit the executable of the icon, but that is not recommended whatsoever
[02:37] <Hawkwind> digivore: So do kdesu kate
[02:37] <larson9999> jobless_ all i had to do was to set it to start on startup and then reboot and it worked fine
[02:37] <Hawkwind> digivore: There is a reason it's done that way
[02:38] <digivore> thanks, i'll try that.
[02:38] <Hawkwind> digivore: You don't want to always run kate as sudo/kdesu as it can and will cause problems
[02:38] <digivore> it will cause problems??
[02:38] <digivore> whats the harm?
[02:38] <Hawkwind> digivore: You don't want to edit everything as root user.  That's a very dangerous practice
[02:39] <lters> digivore: any file you create/save with kdesu kate will not be available to the regular user either.
[02:39] <jobless_> larson9999 ohh .. the problem i have is that i can connect to my home network that is secured using wep. but i was not able to connect to an unsecured network at school
[02:39] <digivore> kdesu ,   what rights will that give me?
[02:39] <Hawkwind> digivore: It will force all files to have root permissions, bad bad idea
[02:39] <larson9999> jobless: i'm connecting to an unsecured hotel connection :)
[02:39] <digivore> i am the only user on this system
[02:39] <Hawkwind> digivore: You can and will break your system if you get into such a bad habit/practice
[02:40] <campbch> nice.
[02:40] <Hawkwind> digivore: So what.  You don't want everything to have root permissions when there are things that the regular user needs to have permission to
[02:40] <digivore> well i can't save any files when i jsut type kate.   so i'm going to use 'kdesu kate'
[02:40] <jobless_> hmm .. which package are u using to do that? is it the wireless lan manger or the network setup under system settings?
[02:41] <digivore> or should i be able to change my account permissions to let me save
[02:41] <jobless_> hmm .. which package are u using to do that? is it the wireless lan manger or the network setup under system settings? larson9999
[02:41] <Hawkwind> digivore: Like we told you, then type kdesu kate when you need to edit a file as root user
[02:41] <Hawkwind> digivore: No need for that
[02:41] <siliticx> well looks like i wont be toying with ati graphics ..sigh
[02:41] <Hawkwind> digivore: If the file has root permissions, then kdesu kate is what you want.  If it has regular user permissions, then kate is what you want
[02:42] <digivore> okok,  probably i've only been trying to edit system files that have root permissions...
[02:42] <digivore> i see.  i will use kdesu kate  wisely,
[02:43] <siliticx> either its my sound that doesnt work
[02:43] <siliticx> or its my drivers
[02:43] <siliticx> sigh
[02:43] <larson9999> jobless: i just left the secure type settings blank in the network config gui
[02:43] <larson9999> jobless_: i just left the secure type settings blank in the network config gui
[02:43] <max_> hi. when you rip somthing with the KAudioCreator, where does it put it?
[02:45] <max_> hi. when you rip somthing with the KAudioCreator, where does it put it?
[02:48] <siliticx> guys, whats the command to like.. reload your list of packages with apt-get
[02:48] <OOD> sudo apt-get update
[02:50] <martiny> necesito saber como instalar NEED FOR SPEED CARBON  con cedega
[02:50] <campbch> WOAH habla espanol
[02:51] <siliticx> !beryl
[02:51] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[02:51] <campbch> hay foros para hispanohablantes, podran ayudarte....
[02:51] <siliticx> question : whats the file with all your repositories?
[02:53] <martiny> dime la direccion de los for hispano por fa
[02:54] <Sanne> !es
[02:56] <florg> hi. my kdeinit wants to load kooldock on login, even after i uninstalled kooldock. how can i configure kdeinit to omit that?
[02:56] <venkat> larson9999 i am able to connect .. i just rebooted the system and it was fine ..!
[02:57] <larson9999> venkat are you jobless_:
[02:57] <jobless_> yes larson9999
[02:57] <jobless_> forgot to change the nic
[02:57] <larson9999> jobless_: didn't i tell you i had to reboot?
[02:57] <jobless_> larson9999 and thats why i did that ..! thanks
[02:59] <larson9999> jobless_: i wouldn't have thought you needed to either.  but that guide said to.  except for the easy ubuntu and automatix stuff, i think that guide is the best i've seen for a given distro
[02:59] <jobless_> larson9999 which guide?
[02:59] <jobless_> larson9999 can u give me the link?
[02:59] <larson9999> jobless:  the one that comes up when you search for 'unbuntu guide unofficial'
[03:00] <larson9999> err ubuntu
[03:01] <jobless_> larson9999 i got it
[03:01] <jobless_> http://ubuntuguide.org
[03:01] <larson9999> yep
[03:06] <Alter-Ego> what program do i use for a modem connection to the internet
[03:07] <xsacha> KPPP Internet Dial-Up Tool ?
[03:07] <xsacha> !kppp
[03:07] <ubotu> kppp: modem dialer and ppp frontend for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 667 kB, installed size 3688 kB
[03:10] <siliticx> !beryl
[03:10] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[03:14] <siliticx> !sources.list
[03:14] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:18] <jws> Might someone help me with an install problem?
[03:24] <actinic> any compelling reasons Dapper ---> Edgy?
[03:26] <dtorres> has anyone got gpar2 working on kubuntu?
[03:32] <kadi> hi
[03:33] <kadi> hi khirr
[03:34] <khirr> ello
[03:34] <khirr> :D
[03:34] <khirr> all is ok in my OS :D
[03:34] <khirr> how could i configure my webcam?
[03:34] <kadi> don't know
[03:34] <khirr> okp
[03:34] <kadi> sry
[03:35] <whiz2> I'm having troubles installing the Opera browser. Can someone help me get the installer to work?
[03:35] <kadi> you have ubuntu?
[03:35] <whiz2> Kubuntu
[03:36] <kadi> is it an debian package
[03:36] <whiz2> Yes
[03:36] <whiz2> I double click it, and I get an error stating that something isn't in my path.
[03:37] <whiz2> "Error Ark - The utility is not in your PATH. Please install it or contact your system administrator."
[03:39] <kadi> you don't have the rights???
[03:39] <whiz2> I'm the admin
[03:39] <actinic> right click on the downloaded opera file
[03:39] <whiz2> I'm the only one who has the erights
[03:39] <kadi> did you copy it to your folder?
[03:39] <actinic> in konqueror
[03:39] <whiz2> I copied the package to a created folder on my desktop
[03:40] <actinic> the package should be a deb file downloaded from the opera site
[03:41] <whiz2> nevermind. It's installed now. Thank you actinic
[03:42] <kadi> hm
[03:42] <actinic> np, looks like you found the right click function :)
[03:42] <larson9999> linux rocks!
[03:42] <kadi> lol
[03:42] <frenris> true dat.
[03:43] <whiz2> Yes it does lol
[03:43] <frenris> why when I launch konqueror from the start bar does it lack the side tabs for bookmarks and amarok?
[03:44] <actinic> i hope all 279 logged in users don't talk at once :)
[03:44] <kadi> server could be overloaded :-)
[03:45] <actinic> maybe we should try :)
[03:45] <kadi> think they are all sleeping
[03:46] <kadi> ... doing ping pong
[03:46] <kadi> ping
[03:46] <kadi> pong
[03:46] <kadi> ping
[03:46] <kadi> pong
[03:46] <frenris> ping
[03:46] <kadi> lool
[03:46] <actinic> ding
[03:46] <actinic> lol
[03:46] <frenris> dong
[03:46] <actinic> knock
[03:46] <frenris> kick?
[03:46] <kadi> outch
[03:46] <frenris> knick*?
[03:46] <frenris> damn
[03:46] <actinic> knock, knock ..
[03:46] <frenris> who's there?
[03:46] <actinic> bo
[03:46] <kadi> who is there?
[03:47] <frenris> I am there
[03:47] <gnomefreak> can you guys please stop with the enter key
[03:47] <kadi> who is you?
[03:47] <frenris> you is me
[03:47] <actinic> roses are red, violets are blue, i'm schizophrenic and so am I
[03:47] <kadi> crazy thinking about
[03:48] <frenris> what music you guys listening to?
[03:48] <Aondo> my own :P
[03:48] <campbch> ping?
[03:48] <kadi> not really
[03:48] <gnomefreak> guys stay on topic if you want to continue this please join #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:48] <actinic> metallica ... you know, light stuff :)
[03:48] <actinic> sorry
[03:49] <frenris> just switched to KDE like yesterday from GNOME
[03:49] <frenris> like it way better
[03:49] <esaym> you like?
[03:49] <esaym> cool
[03:49] <frenris> amarok is truly ftw
[03:49] <esaym> never tried gnome lol
[03:49] <frenris> the menus are better
[03:49] <frenris> like the start bar
[03:49] <frenris> but the rest isn't that good
[03:49] <gnomefreak> thats still not really on topic guys
[03:49] <kadi> <=changed mine
[03:50] <esaym> gnome to me looks like it tries to hide everything
[03:50] <kadi> but it is not hiding
[03:50] <frenris> its just not there?
[03:50] <frenris> I dunno KDE seems so much more customizable to me
[03:51] <Vipercat> i have just upgraded my dapper to edgy using the alternate cd but now i cant get a graphical inteface just command line
[03:51] <Vipercat> i did reinstall xserver
[03:51] <Vipercat> can anyone help ?
[03:51] <campbch> i need to build a driver for my intel chip, since it's not working through the other one i got... how do i build it?
[03:51] <campbch> i have the source
[03:52] <kadi> apt-get install
[03:52] <campbch> it doesnt include an install shell file
[03:52] <campbch> NO
[03:52] <campbch> not the apt-get
[03:52] <campbch> thats not building
[03:52] <khirr> how can i configure my cam?
[03:52] <gnomefreak> Vipercat: install xserver-xorg kubuntu-desktop xserver-xorg-video-all xorg
[03:52] <adam_> hello
[03:52] <Vipercat> is that from root ?
[03:52] <campbch> what is the general form for installing a graphics driver?
[03:52] <kadi> sure
[03:52] <ubuntu_> Hello everyone
[03:53] <campbch> Hello ubuntu_
[03:53] <kadi> hi
[03:53] <adam_> I have a weird problem with adept...
[03:53] <gnomefreak> Vipercat: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg xorg xserver-xorg-video-all kubuntu-desktop
[03:53] <ubuntu_> I'm just another windows user trying to break into the realm of Linux
[03:53] <adam_> I made something stupid , I guess
[03:54] <kadi> :)
[03:54] <adam_> I closed it, but it didn't closed properly
[03:54] <adam_> it is still running
[03:54] <campbch> anyone know? whats the quick 3 steps to build something?
[03:54] <adam_> and I cant kill it
[03:54] <campbch> its like automake, conf something and make all
[03:54] <adam_> it won't let me
[03:54] <campbch> but i dont know exactly
[03:54] <adam_> can anybody tell me how to kill it?
[03:54] <gnomefreak> campbch: ./configure && make && sudo make install
[03:55] <kadi> try a reboot
[03:55] <campbch> alright
[03:55] <adam_> ok, I might reboot it, then see if that helped, if not I'll be back :)
[03:55] <kadi> gnomefreak rocks
[03:55] <gnomefreak> !compile | campbch
[03:55] <ubotu> campbch: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:56] <campbch> alright, thanks
[03:58] <kadi> think i go back playing some stupid games in windows
[03:59] <kadi> bye guys
[03:59] <Vipercat> thanks
[03:59] <kadi> sry bye girls too
[04:00] <campbch> there is no configure and autoconf doesnt work
[04:00] <campbch> what isn't right about this?
[04:00] <campbch> i'm getting extremely frustrated.
[04:00] <campbch> my card
[04:00] <campbch> can play this game
[04:01] <campbch> but i am on my 3rd day of trying to get it installed, now it installed and working but the GAME is now telling me that the card is not good enough
[04:01] <campbch> which is a load of bull
[04:01] <campbch> so i need to get the REAL driver installed
[04:01] <campbch> but it has no configure, and autoconf wont work, so i cant make because i have no input file and ive never done this before and it should be working!
[04:02] <campbch> why isnt anything working!?
[04:02] <campbch> i want it to WORK
[04:02] <campbch> cf  docbook  imake  Imakefile  makedepend  pswrap  util what is this?
[04:02] <campbch> this ist he /config folder
[04:02] <campbch> but what does it mean?
[04:02] <campbch> !imake
[04:02] <gnomefreak> campbch: what are you trying to compile
[04:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about imake - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:03] <gnomefreak> not all apps have a ./configure file
[04:03] <campbch> it's the intel graphics chipset for the 9915gm and stuff
[04:03] <campbch> 915*
[04:03] <campbch> but i need to be sure i have a 100% fresh, official version so that this game will run
[04:03] <campbch> this is absolutely the LAST thing i need to do to get it working, after 3 days of fiddling with everything
[04:03] <gnomefreak> campbch: read the readme and the install files it might be as simple as a shell script
[04:04] <gnomefreak> campbch: like nvidia binary drivers are .sh files and it runs the installer
[04:04] <dennister> hello everyone
[04:05] <gnomefreak> i
[04:05] <gnomefreak> hi
[04:05] <campbch> why is this telling me
[04:05] <campbch> that its the xorg somehting source?
[04:05] <campbch> i just downloaded the xorgrc source from the intel linux driver website, is this correct
[04:05] <campbch> ?
[04:05] <gnomefreak> campbch: i would need the full error but are you sure its not the kenrel source?
[04:05] <campbch> no
[04:06] <campbch> im not
[04:06] <campbch> im just following link
[04:06] <gnomefreak> campbch: iirc you can get those drivers with apt-get
[04:06] <campbch> links after links after links
[04:06] <campbch> no
[04:06] <campbch> because those drivers need to be upgraded
[04:06] <campbch> according to the game
[04:06] <dennister> good news and bad news: good=my tuner works with mplayer if i tune channel 3 in konsole, get great vid/audio
[04:06] <campbch> that i just spent, again, 3 days installing
[04:06] <campbch> campbch@stormbreaker:~/915driver/xc$ ls
[04:06] <campbch> BUILD      extras     LABEL     programs       registry  xf86Date.h
[04:06] <campbch> ChangeLog  Imakefile  lib       README         RELNOTES
[04:06] <campbch> config     include    Makefile  README.crypto  util
[04:06] <fumbalah> Hi, my wireless card will enable momentirly and then go back off
[04:07] <campbch> i have absolutely NO idea what i am doing
[04:07] <dennister> bad=where i need some help with=another module in kcontrol/system services has gone missing
[04:07] <gnomefreak> campbch: read the README file
[04:07] <dennister> the other day it was the display module; now its user management <argh>
[04:08] <campbch> i just said
[04:08] <campbch> ...
[04:08] <dennister> 1st question: why is this happening so often with edgy? 2nd question: can someone help me restore the module pls?
[04:08] <campbch>   X11R6.8.1 is an Open Source version of the X Window System that
[04:08] <campbch>      supports many UNIX(R) and UNIX-like operating systems (such as
[04:08] <campbch>      Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD and Solaris x86) on Intel and other
[04:08] <campbch>      platforms.  This version is compatible with X11R6.8 a
[04:08] <campbch> THISis the readme
[04:08] <campbch> absolutely not a WORD about installing
[04:09] <campbch> why does it say it's the xorg?
[04:09] <campbch> isnt that the windows manager/
[04:09] <campbch> ?
[04:09] <campbch> why am i installing the x windows manager?
[04:09] <campbch> i just got this 30 seconds ago from the intel website, i mentioned this before! i dont understand any of this!
[04:11] <dennister> campbch: the x-window system (xorg) is what gives linux its graphical look
[04:11] <campbch> i know
[04:11] <gnomefreak> campbch: offhand i dont know i havent had to try them but i cant image it to be all that hard. this is the first time ive seen people have trouble with intel drivers
[04:11] <gnomefreak> brb smoke
[04:12] <campbch> call of duty says that my video card is lacking the necessary features, and that i should upgrade the drivers. also, opengl screensavers are bugged up to half a screen, so this is obviously a problem with either the configuration or the drivers
[04:12] <campbch> i already checked the configuration, so it must be the drivers
[04:12] <campbch> so i went to get the drivers, and they come as source
[04:13] <campbch> now i need to compile the source
[04:13] <campbch> however, all documents say that what i have as the source is the X windows system
[04:13] <campbch> NOT the drivers
[04:13] <campbch> why is it telling me this?
[04:13] <dennister> and i need to get my user management module back :(
[04:13] <campbch> :o
[04:13] <dennister> hi DemonThing`
[04:14] <dennister> has anyone seen this pattern in edgy? key modules just disappearing?
[04:15] <dennister> has anyone tried kde 4? is it better? or is the problem edgy?
[04:16] <dennister> hmmm...quiet in here tonight
[04:17] <dennister> ...brb...going to put the laundry in
[04:17] <apokryphos> kde 4 is really only for developers at the moment. Still in the porting stage
[04:18] <campbch> this
[04:18] <campbch> is insane
[04:18] <dennister> ty apokryphos
[04:18] <apokryphos> campbch: non-kde-related problems are often better asked in #ubuntu
[04:18] <dennister> would you know how to fix my missing module problem? reinstalling doesn't work
[04:19] <campbch> ill check it out
[04:20] <dennister> hi dragonfly7 :)
[04:20] <dragonfly7> is there a bash command to restart my sound system? (yay, I was recognized!)
[04:20] <dennister> heheh...u could try alsa
[04:21] <dennister> i find just typing the program name often works
[04:21] <dennister> but i'm sure this isn't always the case
[04:21] <dragonfly7> as in "killall alsa"?
[04:21] <dennister> well that would stop it, yes
[04:21] <campbch> after 4349 lines of log file
[04:22] <campbch> it exits with Error 2.
[04:22] <Alter-Ego> if i ubuntu and dailup set on it, and i want to go to kubunt all i really need to do is "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" and everything will stay the same including connecting to the internet ?
[04:22] <campbch> WTFis error 2?
[04:22] <campbch> when you have 3 line output files, it tells me error 2?
[04:22] <campbch> how am i supposed to know what that means?
[04:23] <dennister> Alter-Ego: it should...i used that after i installed the text-only lamp server
[04:23] <Alter-Ego> dennister: wow, i never thought about server first and kubuntu-desktop last.  i bet you have a lot less crud
[04:23] <Alter-Ego> er, krud
[04:23] <Alter-Ego> :-)
[04:23] <dennister> it came over the dhcp that was detected at installation
[04:23] <dragonfly7> I have this weird problem where my sound gets all crackly after it switches files its playing. Right now, I have the ctrl+alt+backspace to fix it. I hope to set up a keyboard shortcut to just restart the sound.
[04:24] <Alter-Ego> dhcp via network or dailup ?
[04:24] <dennister> Alter-Ego: actually, nooo
[04:24] <dennister> i had dhcp from a cable modem and router...
[04:24] <dragonfly7> But alsa is not listed when I "ps -e" and killall alsa doesn't work.
[04:24] <fumbalah> can anyone help me with my wireless issue? I need it for a conference in the morning
[04:25] <dennister> it's just that i needed the server for mythtv...most people don't need the server, and it's much more complicated
[04:25] <Alter-Ego> ya, i am wondering if changes in dialup would be affected with kubuntu-desktop
[04:25] <frenris> Just converted from gnome, how does one update KDE stuff via GUI, like that orange button gnome had in the top right?
[04:25] <dragonfly7> fumbalah: what is the problem?
[04:25] <dennister> nope,...i really don't think so
[04:25] <fumbalah> eth1 enables momentairily and then goes back off
[04:25] <fumbalah> I've installed the drivers via ndiswrapper
[04:25] <dennister> frenris: u can use a package manager called adept, and download synaptic, too
[04:26] <dragonfly7> Does the card enable, or the wireless connection?
[04:26] <fumbalah> The card enables momentairily
[04:26] <dragonfly7> Hmm... What card is it?
[04:27] <frenris> kk ty
[04:27] <fumbalah> Dell 1350 WLan, for an inspiron 6000
[04:27] <dennister> brb...laundry is still calling...blasted cat!
[04:27] <dragonfly7> Do you have edgy?
[04:28] <fumbalah> yea
[04:30] <dragonfly7> Try reinstalling ndiswrapper (http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/Ubuntu). I am just reading off of ubuntu forums...
[04:31] <dennister> i'm back..
[04:33] <dragonfly7> Hi dennister. How was that laundry?
[04:33] <dennister> heheh...it will be les smelly in my bedroom now
[04:34] <dennister> the second any clothing falls to the floor my cat jumps at the opportunity to piss on it :(
[04:34] <dennister> lovely, eh?
[04:34] <hazard_> I hate cats.
[04:34] <dragonfly7> Oh yes, but now that I think about I also have to do laundry. :(
[04:35] <dennister> if she wasn't so gorgeous, silky to the touch, and a present for my son, she would hav been dead years ago
[04:36] <dragonfly7> So does anyone know how to restart the sound ... thing?
[04:36] <dennister> anyway, back on topic: hazard_, u wouldn't have edgy, do u?
[04:36] <hazard_> the new one 6.10? no.
[04:36] <Homer> whats some good P2P programs for Linux
[04:37] <dragonfly7> KTorrent is a good P2P.
[04:37] <Homer> for small files
[04:37] <Homer> like gnutella2/gnutella
[04:37] <dennister> Homer: i use ktorrent, there's a limewire clone called frostwire
[04:37] <dennister> azureus is available on both windows and linux, but it's a pig on resources
[04:37] <Skrot-> Homer: There's valknut which uses the DirectConnect protocol
[04:37] <hazard_> sorry, I've been meaning to upgrade, but since 6.06 is working just fine for what I need, I see no pressing reason (especially now that its working)
[04:38] <Homer> I can't even get 6.10 to work
[04:38] <dennister> if it's not broke, don't fix it
[04:38] <hazard_> Exactly.
[04:38] <dragonfly7> I like 6.10's acceptance of multimedia buttons.
[04:38] <hazard_> And usually me and linux GUIs are on very poor terms, but right now my Dapper box is just fine.
[04:39] <dennister> well edgy's been wonderful for my tuner...ivtv drivers were downloadable from the repos, and most people say building ivtv drivers is the hardest thing they've ever had to do
[04:39] <dennister> i struggled horribly with the ivtv drivers in dapper
[04:39] <dragonfly7> Dennister: I Have heard you say that before. Do you have a macro for that or something?
[04:39] <Homer> yeah dapper works great
[04:40] <dennister> a macro?
[04:40] <Homer> hopefully fiesty will work for me
[04:40] <Homer> !fiesty
[04:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about fiesty - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:40] <dragonfly7> Um... hotkey? A shortcut for saying something.
[04:40] <hazard_> is xdm the thing to use to launch X on startup?
[04:40] <dennister> dragonfly7: i know i'm repeating myself, but there r new people new to me) here
[04:40] <Homer> xdm is a X Login Manager
[04:40] <dennister> it depends on what u need, and what u've got
[04:40] <Homer> !xdm
[04:40] <hazard_> if I'm not using kde or gnome?
[04:40] <ubotu> xdm: X display manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.5-1 (edgy), package size 160 kB, installed size 756 kB
[04:41] <dragonfly7> Yeah, I am sure there are. I don't mind, I just found it funny.
[04:41] <Homer> you can still use kdm/gdm
[04:41] <Homer> in fact they are muuuuch better
[04:41] <Homer> xdm is very simplistic
[04:41] <dennister> heheheh...gonna sound like a broken record pretty soon i bet
[04:41] <hazard_> I like simple.
[04:41] <hazard_> Simple good.
[04:41] <hazard_> Me sleepy.
[04:42] <Homer> or you can simply use no login manager!
[04:42] <Homer> too many choices in linux!
[04:42] <dennister> i gotta get this module working again!!!
[04:42] <hazard_> Now that I've *FINALLY* gotten fluxbox (or whatever it is) to play nice with VPC6, I predict that in about 4 minutes, it will stop working completely.
[04:42] <Homer> I have a idea for xfree86
[04:43] <Homer> when you fuck your .conf file
[04:43] <Homer> it should automatically revert to a backup
[04:43] <hazard_> it stabs you in the face?
[04:43] <Homer> instead of just no running
[04:43] <hazard_> aww....I wanted the face stabbing.
[04:43] <Homer> cause it's fucking hard to fix an X server if you don't know what u doing
[04:43] <Homer> and even when you know what you doing
[04:43] <Homer> it fucking har
[04:43] <hazard_> I have a hard time getting them to work in the first place.
[04:44] <hazard_> Especially in virtual situations, where the 'hardware' dosen't actually exsist.
[04:44] <dragonfly7> I hate it when I break xorg.conf. The first time I did it I freaked out.
[04:44] <hazard_> (which means it typically behaves very strangely to 'safe' methods of doing things)
[04:44] <dennister> yeah, i reinstalled the OS
[04:44] <Homer> you don't really have to be alot of users will/do
[04:45] <Homer> but*
[04:45] <Homer> you don't really have to but alot of users will/do
[04:45] <dennister> now i'm trying to find out how to get rid of this bloody wacom stuff in it
[04:45] <Homer> if xorg breaks -> OS breaks to most users
[04:45] <Homer> that why it should break so much lol
[04:45] <hazard_> because me and Xorg have a..shady...history, I usually just don't run it.
[04:45] <Homer> or be so easy to break
[04:45] <Homer> just imo of course
[04:45] <hazard_> Most of my linux boxes are headless anyway.
[04:45] <dennister> i can't kwrite a file in konsole without getting errors that refers to wacom...and i don't have a wacom tablet or tablet pc
[04:47] <hazard_> I suppose I should figure out what exactly it was that I did that made X11 and VPC6 work together.
[04:47] <Homer> dapper worked for me out of the box
[04:47] <khirr> how can i configur emi web cam -.-
[04:47] <Homer> edgy won't even get past initd
[04:47] <hazard_> Since hours of thoughtful trying previously got me nowhere, but now, in my tired logicless state, it now somehow works.
[04:47] <Homer> it just goes BOOM! and screen goes black (on live cd!) :(
[04:48] <hazard_> Oh, dapper works fine for me on a REAL machine.
[04:48] <hazard_> But NOTHING linuxy-/wGUI works ATALL/EASILY under virtual PC
[04:48] <dragonfly7> Homer: It did that for me too. Have you tried the text-based installer?
[04:49] <Homer> dragonfly7: how will that help? I'm just going to be install a broken system!
[04:49] <knapp> I am having a problem with Konversation, the Server List pops up when I open it, has no buttons, and will not close.
[04:50] <Homer> it's not finishing even init, there are some bad drivers in edgy that my computer isn't liking
[04:50] <Homer> I'm fine with dapper, I'll just hope fiesty fixes the issue :(
[04:51] <dragonfly7> Hmmm. Maybe you have an old beta or RC? At any rate, the upgrade probably isn't worth the trouble.
[04:51] <Homer> no full version
[04:51] <Homer> same problem with ubuntu and kubuntu
[04:51] <dragonfly7> Setting up wireless with WEP was harder in Edgy.
[04:52] <Homer> dapper is doing what I want it to do
[04:52] <fumbalah> dragonfly7: Reinstalled ndiswrapper and reinstalled the drivers, now it just doesnt show up at all anymore
[04:53] <Th3_Cr0up13R> yeay guys
[04:54] <dennister> hi Th3_Cr0up13R
[04:54] <knapp> Anyone have any ideas?
[04:54] <Th3_Cr0up13R> can anyone help coz my hands seem a little tight , my system does recognise my root password if application needs it
[04:54] <dennister> no, sorry knapp
[04:54] <Th3_Cr0up13R> but if its in terminal it doesnt
[04:55] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hi dennister
[04:55] <Th3_Cr0up13R> any ideas what could be done , i havent been on linux in years now and theres not alot i remember
[04:55] <dragonfly7> fumbalah: wow. That didn't work. I am sorry.
[04:56] <dragonfly7> Try looking at these: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=9627474
[04:58] <hazard_> I remember getting a wireless card working in lunix exactly once.
[04:58] <hazard_> I haven't touched it since, and it still works because of it.
[04:58] <dennister> i'm afraid i'm not much help to many, as i'm still a noob
[04:59] <dennister> i hold people's hands, mostly, and direct them to the more senior people
[05:00] <dragonfly7> psh. If dennister is a n00b I am an abacus user.
[05:00] <dennister> hey, back in July i'd never even _seen_ a linux installation
[05:01] <dennister> it's quite the adventure...and a challenge
[05:02] <hazard_> I've been aware of linux for years.
[05:02] <hazard_> ever since I tried to install an old version of suse.
[05:02] <hazard_> which I got working a few times, then promptly broke xwindows
[05:02] <dragonfly7> I think I started somewhere in August, since windows was irriating me and I had just got DSL.
[05:02] <dennister> trying to install nfs now, hopefully it'll allow myth to write to the xfs drive...it's locked by nfs and and i didn't even have nfs installed
[05:03] <dennister> since my user management module is gone i can't make myth a user with access to the parition
[05:03] <hazard_> Myth is a game in my mind.
[05:04] <dennister> microshaft wasn't just irritating me; wga notify was driving me insane with anger
[05:04] <BluesKaj> bach
[05:04] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hehe i just cracked one of those
[05:04] <dennister> yeah...we had the game way back when
[05:04] <dennister> one of 'those'?
[05:04] <Th3_Cr0up13R> dennister: i just got rid of that wga notify thing
[05:05] <Th3_Cr0up13R> 10 min ago from a friends computer
[05:05] <Th3_Cr0up13R> he was so irritated he paid me to get rid of it
[05:05] <Th3_Cr0up13R> heheh
[05:05] <dennister> yeah, so did i, but ms was making noises about making it absolutely mandatory to have it installed -- threatening lockout if u didn't
[05:06] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hehe it just takes 5 minutes to get rid of it
[05:06] <Th3_Cr0up13R> you can install it if it wants to and then disable it
[05:06] <Th3_Cr0up13R> then you done
[05:06] <Th3_Cr0up13R> never comes back again
[05:06] <hazard_> is it a bad idea to have stable and unstable source lists?
[05:06] <dennister> thing is, they did finally back down, and I still got locked out of a 2.5 year old XP machine cause xp erroneously thought one of the drives had "unrecoverable errors"
[05:06] <tim> how do I install XGL on kubuntu?
[05:06] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hehe that sounds like windows
[05:07] <hazard_> You explode. (in other words, I'm tired and have no idea)
[05:07] <dennister> took the drive out, it was perfect, but i still had to wipe windows clean just because it couldn't find the right licence info
[05:07] <dennister> just because windoze couldn't find it, doesn't mean it's not there
[05:07] <Th3_Cr0up13R> sound like fun, especially when you gotta do work and you got deadlines
[05:08] <BluesKaj> dennister, need licence validation ? ...I know a guy ...
[05:08] <Th3_Cr0up13R> dennister:  i got one of those boxes where you take you normal hardrive and you make it perfectly workable
[05:08] <BluesKaj> :)
[05:08] <Th3_Cr0up13R> outside hdd
[05:08] <hazard_> I had a friend who had an external 320g drive, which came unplugged inside the case, which caused some kind of derranged NTFS MFT curroption, which managed to make it so windows didn't have any clue what was going on the drive.
[05:08] <tim> xgl anybody?
[05:08] <dennister> i need to find a way around my win xp mce problem: that kept crashing, screwed the bios completely, and when i tried to reinstall it, i found out th disc was physically cracked
[05:08] <hazard_> It took me forever to find a windows utility to IGNORE the MFT and scan for lost files.
[05:08] <BluesKaj> uhoh
[05:09] <Th3_Cr0up13R> oops, i dont think there is a lot you can do
[05:09] <hazard_> (because apparently NTFS is to advanced to need such a thing)
[05:09] <dennister> <--has been waiting over a month for ms to send a replacement disk...their stories keep changing
[05:09] <Th3_Cr0up13R> if it is hardware
[05:09] <hazard_> Oh, I eventually got all his stuff off for him, but I had to wedge 320G of stuff into my fileserver.
[05:10] <dennister> BluesKaj: i have registered, non-pirated coa's, i shouldn't have to wait months for a replacement disk
[05:10] <hazard_> Since there wasn't anything I could do to FIX the NTFS structures (apparently NTFS is to 'advanced' to need utilitites for that either)
[05:10] <BluesKaj> right
[05:10] <dennister> they could just send me a bloody iso file, and i could use my own product key\
[05:10] <Th3_Cr0up13R> looks like its too advanced to need a hard drive too
[05:11] <dennister> ok...ms rant is over :)
[05:12] <dennister> wb Mythbusters
[05:12] <dennister> brb...gotta go p...and then laundry switch
[05:22] <dragonfly7> *idles
[05:22] <tim> is there anyway to get xgl on an ati card in 6.10?
[05:22] <tim> all the searches I am doing give me stuf on ubuntu with gnome
[05:22] <tim> :-(
[05:22] <dragonfly7> How do you do the "is doing something" command in IRC?
[05:22] <dragonfly7> tim: I found a walkthrough once, let me look.
[05:23] <Aondo> tim  you should take a look at beryl. is not that gnome demanding
[05:23] <tim> kk, thank you dragonfly and aondo
[05:23] <dragonfly7> Yeah, look at this: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Dapper/XGL
[05:24] <tim> also, does fglrx mean I have 3d support
[05:24] <BluesKaj> yup
[05:24] <tim> and would that dapper guide
[05:24] <tim> apply to edgy
[05:24] <tim> I don't see why it wouldn't
[05:24] <tim> but just checking
[05:24] <Aondo> just take a look at the overall wiki site
[05:25] <Aondo> alot of info
[05:25] <tim> yeah
[05:26] <dragonfly7> I got beryl working with that walkthrough on 6.10 kde.
[05:26] <dennister> tim...there's another one, 2, hold on
[05:26] <tim> kk
[05:26] <dragonfly7> So yes, it should work. Unfortunatly, my graphics card overheats easily, so I had to uninstall it.
[05:26] <tim> thank you for all the help btw aondo, dennister, and dragonfly
[05:26] <tim> I am really new to the linux scene
[05:26] <tim> :-/
[05:27] <Aondo> :)
[05:27] <dennister> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:27] <tim> started off installing gentoo, ended up with kubuntu
[05:27] <tim> kk
[05:27] <tim> thanks for the link dennister
[05:27] <dennister> ^^ that one has no relation to beryl
[05:28] <dennister> and it's for edgy
[05:28] <dragonfly7> The link I sent worked for Kubuntu 6.10.
[05:28] <tim> is no relation to berly a good thing
[05:28] <tim> yeah
[05:28] <tim> I saw that
[05:28] <dragonfly7> And it has beryl.
[05:28] <dragonfly7> Beryl is better I think.
[05:29] <dennister> hi DaSkreech
[05:29] <tim> what is the difference between beryl and xgl
[05:29] <DaSkreech> dennister: Hello :)
[05:29] <DaSkreech> tim: Xgl is the Windowing server
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Beryl is the compositing manager
[05:29] <DaSkreech> dennister: How are you?
[05:29] <DaSkreech> hi nikkiana
[05:29] <tim> daskreech, you are talking to a moron :-)
[05:29] <nikkiana> hi Danker
[05:29] <tim> I have no idea what that mean
[05:29] <nikkiana> err DaSkreech
[05:29] <tim> means*
[05:29] <dennister> i'm having probs, as per usual...lol
[05:30] <nikkiana> stupid tab autocomplete
[05:30] <dragonfly7> tim: Use my link. It should work fine.
[05:30] <dennister> now my user management module in system services/kcontrol is gone
[05:31] <dennister> the second time in a few days that i've seen this error...last time the module was display
[05:31] <fumbalah> I keep getting ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Invalid argument
[05:31] <fumbalah> When i modprobe
[05:31] <tim> kk
[05:32] <dennister> dragonfly7: u haven't seen this pattern in edgy, have u?
[05:32] <tim> thanks dragonfl
[05:32] <dragonfly7> dennister: No, Edgy is working great for me.
[05:33] <dennister> and this bloody wacom tablet error...I even commented out all its stuff in xorg.conf, removed its demon from system services, and i still get it's errors
[05:34] <dragonfly7> My laptop's trackpad was doing that too, so I took apart the laptop and unplugged it from the motherboard.
[05:35] <dennister> i don't even have a tablet or tablet pc...lol
[05:35] <dennister> (or actually i do, but it was never hooked up to this system, ever)
[05:35] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Heehee What Client are you using?
[05:36] <nikkiana> DaSkreech: Xchat
[05:36] <DaSkreech> ok :) It has round robin matching?
[05:36] <DaSkreech> dennister: Yeah that Wacom thing has had many a torch and pitchfork held against it
[05:36] <nikkiana> it has what?
[05:37] <DaSkreech> I've never seen modules disappear in System settings though
[05:37] <dennister> torch and pitchfork? i don't understand
[05:37] <hfhf> anyone here play warsow?
[05:37] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: When you press tab it autocompletes the first name that matches then you press tab again to get the next one that matches etc until it comes full circle
[05:38] <DaSkreech> I like Gaim and Konversation's way of doing tab complete
[05:38] <DaSkreech> dennister: You need to watch some Frankenstien movies :)
[05:38] <dennister> i guess i should say it disappeared, the error is: "the module <whatever> can not be loaded. Diagnostics...<neither apply?
[05:38] <nikkiana> nikkiana: yeah... though usually you have to type in the first two letters.
[05:38] <nikkiana> err why did i say that to myeslf?
[05:38] <DaSkreech> Me too
[05:38] <dennister> hahah
[05:39] <dragonfly7> What time zones are you all obeying currently?
[05:39] <dennister> omg...it's 1:40 am, eastern canada time zone, and i still need to make a cheesecake-apple tart
[05:40] <hazard_> oooook.....
[05:40] <dragonfly7> 9:40 pm in the slightly-less-evil USA.
[05:40] <hazard_> 11:40 here (USA)
[05:40] <dennister> ...gtg guys...system will have to wait
[05:40] <DaSkreech> Wed Nov  8 23:44:02 EST 2006
[05:40] <dragonfly7> Bye dennister.
[05:40] <DaSkreech> Heehee
[05:40] <DaSkreech> dennister: See ya
[05:41] <dennister> slightly-less-evil? u american imperialists are "the evil empire" :)
[05:41] <dennister> lol...couldn't resist
[05:41] <hazard_> I'm not evil.
[05:41] <hazard_> I'm just insane.
[05:41] <DaSkreech> You are a hazard :)
[05:41] <hazard_> =P
[05:42] <dennister> well, my competitive spirit has been awakened...I'm almost certifiable hazard_
[05:42] <dennister> where are those meds.........
[05:42] <dragonfly7> Yes, but now we are less evil. We have a democratic house and proably senate.
[05:42] <dragonfly7> But I agree, we still hold the title of most evilist.
[05:43] <dennister> ahhhh, i see, and now i can nod and agree with u;;;it's the republicans who are truly evil
[05:43] <hazard_> I'm confused, by all these pronouns, who's from where?
[05:43] <DaSkreech> I'm from the most evil place in the world
[05:43] <DaSkreech>  Stingray lagoon
[05:43] <hazard_> ?
[05:43] <hazard_> ?????????
[05:44] <DaSkreech> You think we are safe and then Boom!
[05:44] <dennister> but...gtg...the cheesecake is calling
[05:44] <DaSkreech> Ha ha :)
[05:44] <dennister> g'nite
[05:44] <hazard_> lol
[05:44] <Alter-Ego> in kubuntu, i want to see what percentage of space i have used and what is avaialbe for each partition from a command line, how ?
[05:44] <hazard_> df -h
[05:44] <DaSkreech> ok How do I get in contact with a maintainer?
[05:44] <DaSkreech> Alter-Ego: df
[05:44] <hazard_> or just call mount /w no options
[05:44] <DaSkreech> dash H
[05:45] <hazard_> You do the chicken dance?
[05:45] <tim> dragonfly
[05:46] <tim> when it says
[05:46] <tim> In KDE (Kubuntu), you can add a simple script to the "~/.kde/Autostart/" directory that activates those commands:
[05:46] <tim> how do I do that
[05:46] <tim> nano ....
[05:46] <xsacha> nano ~/.kde/Autostart/scriptname.sh
[05:46] <tim> thansk xsacha
[05:47] <hazard_> AHHH!!! mayonase on laptop!!! eeee!! TRACKPAD TOO!!!!
[05:48] <dragonfly7> xsancha: thanks for covering it.
[05:48] <dragonfly7> hazard: smooth.
[05:48] <hazard_> yeruioshtjsrtjihjgghk
[05:48] <hazard_> oops, ok, I think I got it (mostrly)
[05:48] <Alter-Ego> i am trying to rescue data from one drive to another, i need to copy everything from one partition on one drive to another partition on another drive using a command line
[05:48] <hazard_> now its all not-clean feeling
[05:49] <hazard_> sigh....
[05:49] <Alter-Ego> how do i began copying ?  cp *.* /dev/hda2 ?
[05:49] <hazard_> I suppose the 'clean ness' of having the tracpad replaced had to wear off sooner or later
[05:50] <hazard_> do you want an image of the drive or jsut all the files in some folder; and is it mountable?
[05:51] <hazard_> On second thought, while I'm very much capable of helping you (and have lotsa experince with that), in my current state I'd probably end up helping you blow up your computer somehow.
[05:51] <Alter-Ego> i just want to copy the files from one partition to another
[05:51] <Alter-Ego> later i will image the drive and try to recover it
[05:51] <DaSkreech> mount it
[05:51] <hazard_> can you mount it now?
[05:51] <Alter-Ego> using dd, but right now, i have it mounted and just want to copy the files over
[05:51] <hazard_> ok
[05:52] <Alter-Ego> 13g --> two 10g partitions, i think i should be able to just cp correct?
[05:52] <hazard_> cp -rv /path/to/mount/* /path/to/destination
[05:52] <DaSkreech> If you got space yeah
[05:52] <hazard_> is the 13 full?
[05:52] <Alter-Ego> 10 is empty, i am copying 13 g
[05:53] <tim> dragonfly
[05:53] <hazard_> but...but....13>10!
[05:53] <Alter-Ego> but i have two 10 gig partitions
[05:53] <tim> sorry to keep bothering you
[05:53] <tim> :-/
[05:53] <dragonfly7> tim: I wasn't aware that you were. Its fine.
[05:53] <saki> how can I install the i386 image on my system again?
[05:53] <DaSkreech> Alter-Ego: copy the two biggest and the two most important directories first
[05:53] <saki> er...
[05:54] <DaSkreech>  then copy everythign else to the other drive
[05:54] <saki> not again but along side my AMD64 install
[05:54] <linlin> anyone in or near miami FL ?
[05:54] <DaSkreech> I'm near
[05:54] <DaSkreech> I'm like three countries away
[05:54] <tim> lol, i followed that guide exactly, but when I reboot, and chose xgl as the session type
[05:54] <Alter-Ego> thx guys
[05:54] <tim> xgll.sh - Kate came up when i got in
[05:54] <aios> is it safe to delete the mounted drive icons that ubuntu sets on the desktop when installing?
[05:54] <tim> :-(
[05:54] <saki> tim are you running 64-bit?
[05:55] <tim> nope
[05:55] <saki> hrm
[05:55] <DaSkreech> aios: Where are they pointing to?
[05:55] <dragonfly7> So it doesn't work? maybe you skipped one of the steps.
[05:55] <DaSkreech> Hi saki
[05:55] <saki> heya DaSkreech
[05:55] <hazard_> 'nioght
[05:55] <saki> tim do you have nvidia or ati?
[05:55] <tim> ati
[05:55] <aios> DaSkreech: the other partitions .. its just that they don't look like links to me, and don't show up with ls .. i dont know what that means
[05:56] <saki> ok do you have the open source 'radeon' drivers?
[05:56] <tim> nope
[05:56] <dragonfly7> tim: try repeating every step. You probably skipped something.
[05:56] <saki> you need them
[05:56] <DaSkreech> aios: what happens when you click on them?
[05:56] <linlin> DaSkreech how long would it take you to drive to miami? ;)
[05:56] <aios> DaSkreech: opens the file browser
[05:56] <DaSkreech> linlin: I would suspect that I could be there by tuesday
[05:57] <DaSkreech> aios: When you right click do you get an eject or unmount option?
[05:57] <aios> DaSkreech: yep
[05:57] <linlin> lol
[05:57] <linlin> i thought that said counties
[05:57] <linlin> not countries
[05:57] <DaSkreech> aios: do that then :-)
[05:57] <tim> I need the open source ati drivers to make it work
[05:57] <aios> DaSkreech:  ... ? eee, no
[05:58] <Alter-Ego> k, i need to relabel the bad partition to something else beside /home
[05:58] <aios> DaSkreech: i dont want to unmount the partitions, i just dont want to see the icons on the desktop
[05:58] <tim> brb
[05:58] <dragonfly7> alos: then you should be able to change the types of icons that display.
[05:58] <saki> so any help with installing the i386 system to work along side my AMD64 system?
[05:59] <digivore> !kde
[05:59] <ubotu> KDE (http://kde.org) is the K Desktop Environment. To install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE for other ways to get KDE
[05:59] <digivore> how do i find out which version of kde i have?
[05:59] <DaSkreech> linlin: You locked in a room or something?
[05:59] <siliticx> !beryl
[05:59] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[05:59] <aios> dragonfly7: that would be a good enough hack, but there's no 'noicon' icon ..
[06:00] <dragonfly7> Just a second...
[06:00] <DaSkreech> aios: What are you worried about happening?
[06:00] <BluDog_Anchorite> has anyone noticed alot of video related freezes/crashes with mplayer, firefox, or games lately?
[06:00] <BluDog_Anchorite> are the nvidia drivers getting buggier, or is it just me
[06:00] <siliticx> my god that beryl is laggy
[06:01] <aios> DaSkreech: .. anything else then just the icons deleting. it should be trivial, i just don't understand why they behave so differently
[06:01] <aios> DaSkreech: in what circumstance does a file not appear with ls -a ?
[06:01] <DaSkreech> Behave ... differently?
[06:02] <dragonfly7> alos: Right click on the desktop> properties>behavior>device icons
[06:02] <aios> DaSkreech: link files say they are link files in the properties menu, and they show up with ls -a like any other file. these two on my desktop dont
[06:02] <DaSkreech> Ah
[06:02] <siliticx> is there a way to tell every single app that double clicking the title bar = maximize ?
[06:03] <dragonfly7> sliticx: yes. It should be in the window behavior section of the display settings.
[06:04] <tim> so I need fglrx won't work with beryl
[06:04] <tim> so fglrx wont work*
[06:04] <saki> yea
[06:04] <saki> you need to get the DRI drivers
[06:04] <dragonfly7> tim: I am sorry, I really don't know what to tell you. maybe saki?
[06:04] <aios> dragonfly7: thanks
[06:05] <dragonfly7> aios: Is that what you were looking for?
[06:05] <saki> tim: Just remove the fglrx drivers and then install the DRI ones
[06:05] <tim> kk
[06:06] <aios> dragonfly7: probably. you gave me a good clue of how to fix it. now i just have to find the equivalent under gnome ;)
[06:06] <DaSkreech> Yo can I move konqueror tabs around?
[06:06] <Pensa`MIA> I set my monitor to turn off after 30 minutes, but all it does is give a black screen, but still turned on
[06:06] <Pensa`MIA> any ideas?
[06:07] <dragonfly7> aios: Oh, sorry, I presumed you were using KDE.
[06:08] <tim> is there a simple way to remove fglrx and install dri
[06:09] <dragonfly7> Have you tried using Adept Package Manager?
[06:09] <aios> dragonfly7: i didnt expect otherwise, i'm in #kubuntu after all :) i've been asking this question for days in #ubuntu and noone answers ... the support on the biggest channel is the worst i've seen on freenode so far
[06:09] <DaSkreech> Ha ha You haven't been hanging out on freenode long?
[06:10] <knapp> Anyone familiar with this error: ""checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X libraries. Please check your installation and add the correct paths"" ?
[06:10] <phubeone> got a question for everyone, i have a nvidia 7800gs agp card
[06:10] <tim> adept finds fglrx
[06:10] <tim> but i dont see dri
[06:10] <dragonfly7> aios: In #ubuntu, you are lucky if your question is moving slow enough to read before it leaves the screen.
[06:10] <aios> DaSkreech: about 2 years now..
[06:11] <phubeone> i'm trying to install the new nvidia drivers and in the xorg.conf it shows for the BUSID PCI: 1:0:0
[06:11] <noxxle> what is the best way to burn kbuntu 6.10 with k3b to ensure best quality and no corruptioN? im guessing doa mode at 4x?
[06:11] <noxxle> or not?
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Yeah I always laugh at how much of Kubuntu's traffic is people coming and going and soaking up the silence
[06:11] <saki> tim dri isn't a package
[06:11] <aios> dragonfly7: problem there is that almost everyone else is as new to ubuntu as i am. they probably get the link from the wiki or something
[06:11] <saki> !i386
[06:11] <DaSkreech> noxxle: Good guess
[06:11] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about i386 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:11] <asgard> hi guys
[06:12] <tim> so how do I get it
[06:12] <noxxle> how long does it take you guys from power on to a fully booted up desktop?
[06:12] <tim> :-(
[06:12] <saki> can anyone post all of the i386 repositories?
[06:12] <noxxle> im at 1:10 right now, seems slow
[06:12] <noxxle> dapper ubuntu was like 50s
[06:12] <saki> for edgy
[06:12] <carlos> just google it
[06:13] <noxxle> who?
[06:13] <asgard> im trying to install vmware workstation but evrytime i run the vmware-install.pl file in consol it says command link not found ??? can anyone help me ?
[06:13] <carlos> saki
[06:13] <DaSkreech> can I move the tabs around in Konqueror?
[06:13] <saki> carlos its not pulling up anything
[06:13] <BluDog_Anchorite> should be able to DaSkreech
[06:13] <DaSkreech> and why the <COC law upheld here> does it keep switching the hotkeys?
[06:13] <BluDog_Anchorite> last time i tried
[06:14] <DaSkreech> BluDog_Anchorite: how?
[06:14] <BluDog_Anchorite> one sec.  lemme walk over to the box
[06:14] <BluDog_Anchorite> i am working, so i appologize if i get pulled away
[06:14] <DaSkreech> BluDog_Anchorite: Thanks I know how that is
[06:15] <Jasey> hey. in the Configure Konqueror panel when configuring konqueror, i dont see an entry for Plugins =\ how do i get it there! thanks in advance
[06:17] <osiris> DaSkreech, drag the tab you want to move, to where you want it moved, and it will open in a new tab there, or take over the tab you drag it to
[06:17] <asgard> anyone no the problem ?
[06:17] <osiris> does that make sense ?
[06:17] <osiris> Jasey, in the address bar for konq.  type about:plugins
[06:18] <asgard> thanx anyways
[06:18] <Jasey> a non interactive page ...
[06:18] <Jasey> what now?
[06:18] <BluDog_Anchorite> it shows the ones installed
[06:18] <Jasey> thats not what i wanted
[06:18] <BluDog_Anchorite> what are you trying to make it DO
[06:18] <dragonfly7> I don't know my boot time, but I would guess around two minutes. I have an old laptop.
[06:18] <Jasey> manage plugins
[06:18] <noxxle> why would edgy take me 15s longer to reach the desktop than dapper???
[06:19] <Jasey> after all, i want to configure the plugins with a configuration panel. not look at them =\
[06:19] <noxxle> has anyone tried network-manager-kde with edgy?
[06:19] <BluDog_Anchorite> Jasey: in settings/configure konq.  there is a button in the left pane for plugins
[06:19] <Jasey> no there isnt
[06:19] <BluDog_Anchorite> its about 3rd from the bottom
[06:19] <Jasey> thats my problem
[06:19] <siliticx> oooooooooooooooooook
[06:20] <siliticx> i just put a theme in emerald
[06:20] <BluDog_Anchorite> Jasey: what version of konq
[06:20] <siliticx> now not a single window has a frickin title bar
[06:20] <DaSkreech> Jasey: try Settings -> Manage Extensions -> Tools
[06:20] <Jasey> 3.5.5
[06:20] <Jasey> ok
[06:20] <BluDog_Anchorite> and im on 3.5.3
[06:20] <siliticx> !beryl
[06:20] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[06:20] <Jasey> no thats not quite what im looking for
[06:20] <noxxle> beryl v. compiz?
[06:21] <Jasey> beryl = new and more plugins. compiz = moer stable
[06:21] <noxxle> is it true that both of them clock your processor way up?
[06:21] <noxxle> and eat battery life?
[06:21] <carlos> how can i install macromedia flash in Kubuntu Dapper x64?
[06:21] <dragonfly7> beryl = cool logo.
[06:21] <siliticx> not really made for a laptop
[06:21] <siliticx> i like beryl until now.
[06:21] <noxxle> so it DOES eat battery life
[06:21] <siliticx> i cant move or close anything ;P
[06:22] <BluDog_Anchorite> Jasey: im afraid i cant help you then
[06:22] <BluDog_Anchorite> im sorry
[06:22] <dragonfly7> siliticx: just use regular KDE when you are mobil.
[06:22] <Jasey> thats alright. thanks anyway :)
[06:22] <siliticx> yeah, thats what im saying
[06:22] <noxxle> all of the how tos i see for beryl say you gotta use ubuntu, will it work for kubuntu?
[06:23] <siliticx> but right now.. i just want my titale bar back
[06:23] <Jasey> i have a feeling im missing a package or something strange
[06:23] <Jasey> it will work for kubuntu, yes
[06:23] <Jasey> i had to working on xubuntu
[06:23] <siliticx> it worked great until now
[06:23] <Jasey> as well
[06:23] <siliticx> as long as u got aiglx, which is in edgy
[06:23] <BluDog_Anchorite> Jasey: sudo apt-get konqueror-plugins ?
[06:23] <Jasey> im sure i have that
[06:23] <Jasey> i might double check
[06:24] <noxxle> does it squeak when you minimize ans maximize windows?
[06:24] <noxxle> your graphics card
[06:24] <BluDog_Anchorite> no, mine starts on fire
[06:25] <noxxle> my laptop squeaked when i used it with ubuntu
[06:25] <BluDog_Anchorite> or at least it happens when i  play ut2k4
[06:25] <BluDog_Anchorite> friggin game locks my box after 2 maps
[06:25] <BluDog_Anchorite> idk.  think the old nvidia is givin up the ghost
[06:25] <Jasey> ahhh
[06:25] <Jasey> konqueror-nsplugins is what i was missing
[06:26] <BluDog_Anchorite> nice work Jasey
[06:26] <siliticx> can. anyone. help.
[06:26] <BluDog_Anchorite> siliticx: what exactly is the issue
[06:27] <siliticx> i dont have a bar on any single window
[06:27] <siliticx> the bar with the title, X, max, shade and etc
[06:27] <siliticx> i changed beryl's engline in emerald and then poof, nothing
[06:27] <BluDog_Anchorite> try alt+right clicking on the window
[06:27] <siliticx> nope nothing
[06:28] <BluDog_Anchorite> no list of minimize/maximize, etc.. ?
[06:28] <siliticx> not even
[06:28] <BluDog_Anchorite> can you remove the theme ?
[06:28] <siliticx> oh, got it, but still
[06:28] <siliticx> having no bar is kinda anoying
[06:28] <BluDog_Anchorite> it most likely is the fault of the theme
[06:29] <BluDog_Anchorite> are you SURE that theme HAS menu/window borders and bars ?
[06:29] <siliticx> even if i change the engine to what i was before, its not coming back
[06:29] <digivore> why can't i view my root files in konqueror?  i used to be able to...?  i can only see my home dir...
[06:29] <siliticx> all 6 of em = nothing now
[06:30] <dragonfly7> ok, off to bed. bye all.
[06:30] <BluDog_Anchorite> siliticx: and this is beryl correct ?
[06:30] <siliticx> yep
[06:30] <BluDog_Anchorite> hmm. i wouldnt know.  never played wtih beryl, but i might se if i can dig up some info when im off in 30
[06:32] <BluDog_Anchorite> btw BluDog_Anchorite = osiris   ( BluDog_Anchorite is my work nick)
[06:32] <BluDog_Anchorite> just for later clarification
[06:32] <tim> ahhhhhh
[06:32] <tim> how do I get the DRI drivers
[06:32] <tim> lol
[06:32] <tim> google is not being helpful right now
[06:33] <siliticx> !dri
[06:33] <ubotu> dri is direct rendering infrastructure, a framework for allowing direct access to graphics hardware under the X Window System in a safe and efficient manner.
[06:34] <tim> Im trying to get glx on kubuntu
[06:34] <tim> and Im told that I need the DRI drivers
[06:34] <siliticx> !ati
[06:34] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:34] <tim> or for beryl
[06:35] <BluDog_Anchorite> who needs beryl, when there is E17
[06:35] <BluDog_Anchorite> imho
[06:35] <siliticx> e17?
[06:35] <BluDog_Anchorite> enlightenment DR 17
[06:35] <tim> Does E17 work with fglrx
[06:35] <BluDog_Anchorite> http://get-e.org
[06:36] <BluDog_Anchorite> tim: no.  im speaking of an entirely different window manager
[06:36] <tim> you mean instead of kde?
[06:36] <BluDog_Anchorite> yes
[06:38] <siliticx> aaaaaah no more beryl, have my bars back, weeee
[06:38] <siliticx> althought i got an error message at x startup, which is bad
[06:39] <eva> hi
[06:39] <siliticx> heya eva
[06:39] <eva> could you help me out?
[06:39] <BluDog_Anchorite> depends
[06:40] <BluDog_Anchorite> ask, and you shall be heard
[06:40] <eva> I have a latitude d600 with an intel 2100 3A and kwifi and wireless assistant can't freaking connect to a network
[06:40] <siliticx> what was that site blu?
[06:40] <BluDog_Anchorite> bet-e.org ?
[06:40] <BluDog_Anchorite> er, get-e.org
[06:40] <momal> is there any guide to flash9 beta on firefox2 with edgy??..seems my sound just suddenly stopped working so i thought re doing it would help
[06:41] <eva> if I restart kubuntu it'll connect to my home wireless but it won't let me change between connections
[06:41] <eva> even if I try to go back to my home connection it'll say connection failed
[06:42] <digivore> how can i get privledges to paste to a /usr/share/apps  folder????   it won't let me do it on my machine.
[06:42] <momal> !flash9
[06:42] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[06:43] <eva> I'm on the wireless connection right now but if I try to use wireless assistant to reconnect to the same connection it'll say failed to connect, and when I try to use kwifi it'll say the current connection is unknown and when I scan for new networks it can't find anything
[06:43] <BluDog_Anchorite> never played with wifi.  mostly because its a pain
[06:44] <eva> harrr
[06:44] <eva> what a bummer
[06:44] <BluDog_Anchorite> other than in a windows/device type fashion
[06:44] <eva> what is it that makes the wireless connect the proper way when the computer boots up anyways?
[06:44] <eva> the OS?
[06:44] <DaSkreech> !e
[06:44] <ubotu> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[06:45] <smaggard> Hiyas!
[06:45] <BluDog_Anchorite> no, its probably a module, that isn't releasing the device, or a driver not being able to put it in scan (promiscuous mode)
[06:45] <smaggard> oops sorry for shouting :D
[06:45] <eva> hmm
[06:45] <eva> oh well
[06:45] <eva> thanks
[06:45] <eva> at least I have some insight now
[06:46] <siliticx> whats the main difference between e and kde?
[06:46] <BluDog_Anchorite> yer welcome
[06:46] <BluDog_Anchorite> siliticx: apples and oranges question
[06:46] <siliticx> ok lemme rephrase.
[06:46] <BluDog_Anchorite> kde is more of a suite of applications, + the window manager
[06:46] <smaggard> the edgy install is "Crapping out" on a desktop of mine... its getting about to where it usually quits so ill tell you what it says when it gets there.
[06:46] <siliticx> what would be the main advantage for me to e.
[06:46] <siliticx> *switch to e
[06:47] <BluDog_Anchorite> eye candy, bleeding edge, the way the interface feels
[06:47] <BluDog_Anchorite> if you want something real stable, dont do E
[06:47] <smaggard> lol
[06:47] <smaggard> exactly
[06:47] <siliticx> hehe ok
[06:47] <DaSkreech> siliticx: Two letters
[06:47] <BluDog_Anchorite> E is for people that are willing to keep up with the cvs code, and fix things when erros occure
[06:47] <siliticx> !ntfs
[06:47] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[06:47] <siliticx> hgehe ok
[06:47] <siliticx> im not at that point yet
[06:47] <smaggard> Blu> and have lots of time :D haha
[06:48] <siliticx> how about ntfs read/write status
[06:48] <BluDog_Anchorite> smaggard: i dont have much time anymore, but you are correct
[06:48] <siliticx> whats the developpement on that?
[06:48] <smaggard> im using kubuntu because time ran out on me.
[06:48] <smaggard> and i had never used it... and now i think its great and i look back at all the almost wasted hours spent on gentoo.
[06:49] <BluDog_Anchorite> im a mandriva convert.
[06:49] <smaggard> hours and hours of compiling and  recompiling after you set a use flag wrong.
[06:49] <BluDog_Anchorite> yep
[06:49] <smaggard> but i wont dis another distro here :D
[06:49] <smaggard> ok any second now this edgy installer is going to come up with a bug report/crash notice/
[06:50] <smaggard> 72% copying files...
[06:50] <siliticx> im such a noob
[06:50] <siliticx> samba is the program to make shares, right
[06:50] <smaggard> haha whys that
[06:50] <smaggard> yup
[06:50] <siliticx> its like everything is new to me
[06:50] <BluDog_Anchorite> siliticx: samba is a long term for the smb protocol
[06:50] <smaggard> well you would use samba to share files/folders with winders machines
[06:50] <BluDog_Anchorite> smb is windows file sharing protocol
[06:51] <siliticx> ok
[06:51] <siliticx> so.. i get samba from apt-get, then what
[06:51] <smaggard> and browse with url like smb://hostmachine/share/
[06:51] <BluDog_Anchorite> samba is bot ha server, and a client browser protocol
[06:51] <siliticx> how do i make a share then?
[06:51] <smaggard> dapper comes with it installed yes?
[06:51] <reldruh> what's the best way to mount a samba share at startup?
[06:51] <BluDog_Anchorite> idk.  i had to install my own samba browser
[06:51] <smaggard> right click the folder and click share
[06:52] <BluDog_Anchorite> and samba server is WAY harder than it was in mandriva to set up
[06:53] <smaggard> ok my edgy gets to 84% copying files an and says "installer crashed"  ubiquity and kde-ui.py are mentioned.
[06:53] <BluDog_Anchorite> python errors
[06:53] <BluDog_Anchorite> one moment
[06:53] <smaggard> im checking syslog too
[06:54] <BluDog_Anchorite> smaggard: i think i have a guy that knows how to fix that one
[06:54] <smaggard> just says RuntimeError: install failed with exit code 132
[06:54] <BluDog_Anchorite> seein if he's available
[06:54] <smaggard> aight thanks :D
[06:54] <BluDog_Anchorite> may i pm ?
[06:54] <smaggard> sure
[06:55] <smaggard> btw this is a soyo dragon mobo.. gettin kinda old..
[06:55] <BluDog_Anchorite> oh, i have a soyo dragon in my file server
[06:55] <smaggard> ah i cant pm u back im not registerd, but ill head there.
[06:55] <BluDog_Anchorite> k
[06:57] <siliticx> poll : mplayer or vlc?
[06:57] <BluDog_Anchorite> both
[06:57] <BluDog_Anchorite> vlc for playing interlaced video
[06:57] <BluDog_Anchorite> mplayer for everything else
[06:58] <siliticx> what about codecs?
[07:00] <foodcoman> Greetings.
[07:00] <siliticx> heya food.
[07:02] <siliticx> erm.. nice bug
[07:02] <siliticx> vlc just ..crashed? went fullscreen then i couldnt go back
[07:02] <siliticx> alt-tabbed, theres something called X , but vlc is closed and the sound is still playing
[07:04] <siliticx> and close doesnt work...
[07:06] <siliticx> any..like.. task manager?
[07:06] <Jucato> Ctrl+Esc
[07:08] <momal> flash 9 under firefox2 on edgy wont play any sound... it used to before can anyone help me ??
[07:08] <siliticx> 1. cant find the process
[07:08] <siliticx> 2. why the &(* is 976 mb of ram used O_O
[07:10] <siliticx> Any way, i gotta get in windows for the night
[07:10] <foodcoman> For some reason wlassistant on my thinkpad does not connect when it issues dhclient -q eth1.  However when i issue a dhclient eth1 without the -q it works fine.   Any ideas?
[07:11] <foodcoman> If there was a file I could edit to tell wlassistant not to use the -q that owuld be great.
[07:15] <Nuked> any good places for dr17 themes?
[07:28] <Kream> hi all
[07:29] <Kream> even on a p4 with 256mb of ram, the remastered livecd takes well over 4 minutes between clicks
[07:29] <Kream> the cd thrashes all the time
[07:31] <Riddell> Kream: hmm, tricky
[07:32] <Kream> this is really really suboptimal.
[07:32] <Kream> especially when knoppix runs perfectly acceptably in a computer with 128mb of ram
[07:32] <Riddell> Kream: I don't know enough about the live CD system to know why that could be, and I don't even know where would be a better place to ask
[07:33] <Riddell> well, the answer is to ask tfheen, but he's out by the pool drinking beer so it might not be the best time
[07:34] <grayman> greetings
[07:35] <grayman> would anyone know why i get an 1.0.0.0 ip for archives.ubuntu.com?
[07:35] <Riddell> grayman: try a different nameserver
[07:35] <grayman> like?
[07:36] <momal> flash 9 under firefox2 on edgy wont play any sound... it used to before can anyone help me ??
[07:36] <Riddell> or try gb.archives
[07:36] <Riddell> nameserver 193.28.45.42
[07:37] <Riddell> Kream: what's the remaster for?
[07:37] <Kream> Riddell:  hindi localised, special phonetic keyboard for hindi and urdu, gimp,
[07:37] <grayman> it's funny
[07:37] <grayman> suddenly the ping is ok
[07:38] <grayman> like yesterday
[07:41] <Kream> Riddell:  is there some way to slimline the cd so that the memory requirements are not so huge ? or optimise the squashfs filesystem so that the cd doesn't seek quite so much?
[07:42] <Riddell> Kream: do you have the same problem on the official kubuntu live CD?
[07:42] <Kream> more or less, yes
[07:42] <Kream> it's hugely unresponsive on a computer with 256mb of ram
[07:42] <Riddell> oh, then there's probably no easy answers
[07:45] <_DsM_> get more ram.
[07:45] <_DsM_> lol
[07:45] <_DsM_> j/k
[07:45] <Kream> right.
[07:46] <_DsM_> i agree with you
[07:46] <Riddell> it should be OK on 256MB, I have tested it on that much and it's been fine but that was dapper
[07:46] <Riddell> well, there's an idea, you could try dapper
[07:46] <_DsM_> the kubuntu 6.10 live cd's are terrible slow unless you have 512 or more
[07:48] <Kream> Riddell:  there's something that knoppix does at boot - if the ram is <somelimit, then it asks you whether you want to mout swap, if found, or if you want to create and mount a swap file on a detected FAT partition. the livecd could do that.
[07:48] <Kream> and the swap is unmounted only when the partition table is being modified. the moment mkswap is run on a partition, the installer should mount it
[07:49] <felixjet> hi all
[07:49] <Riddell> I'm sure our live cd system (casper) does use the hard disk for swap, but I don't know enough about it to say under what conditions
[07:49] <Riddell> hi felixjet
[07:50] <felixjet> houston, we have a problem :( when i start kubuntu on normal mode, after GRUB selection it says: Uncompressing linux... -Ran out of input data -System halted .And it stops there :( now im on rev. mode, what can i do??
[07:51] <Riddell> rev. mode?
[07:51] <felixjet> recovery mode
[07:51] <Riddell> felixjet: sounds like linux is failing to load itself, or something else, a reinstall is probably necessary
[07:52] <felixjet> but i didnt anything! i just logoff from linux... i went windows to check somethings and now i reboot and it dont works
[07:52] <felixjet> and then ppl say linux is more stable..... always failed from all sides u_U
[07:52] <felixjet> failing*
[07:53] <fiyawerx> evening
[07:53] <felixjet> how can i fix it?? without reinstall
[07:55] <fiyawerx> is there still an "easy sources" creator website like there used to be, but for edgy?
[07:56] <felixjet> i cant enter #linux channel
[07:56] <felixjet> why????
[07:56] <fdoving> fiyawerx: don't think it's updated for edgy.
[07:56] <felixjet> i mean, i cant change to that windows with this IRC client
[07:56] <fdoving> !easysource
[07:56] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:56] <felixjet> the one from shell
[07:57] <fdoving> !easyubuntu
[07:57] <ubotu> easyubuntu is easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/  -  For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[07:57] <fiyawerx> fdoving: thanks, just installed fresh, havn't used my linux partition in about 6 months figured i'd see whats new
[07:57] <fiyawerx> earlier someone said the easyubuntu/automatix aren't really suggested?
[07:57] <fdoving> fiyawerx: no, we do not recommend using them.
[07:57] <fiyawerx> hmm
[07:57] <fiyawerx> is there a common list of "do these first" installs?
[07:58] <fiyawerx> or even sources to add?
[07:58] <fdoving> there is http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[07:58] <dude_> hi guys
[07:58] <fiyawerx> im using edgy, now
[07:58] <fdoving> fiyawerx: just edit the resulting sources.list with a editor, and then replace all instances of 'dapper' with 'edgy'.
[07:59] <momal> Anyone have a working howto for flash9 under firefox2 in edgy??
[08:01] <nixternal> momal: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=279990&highlight=flash
[08:03] <momal> nixternal: thanks will look at it when i get back :)
[08:03] <namhaid> i have a prob. when i started today kubuntu, after GRUB menu selection, it said: -Uncompressing linux.... -Ran out of input data -System halted .And it sttoped there :( now i run it perfectly on recovery mode, im even in KDE. but what can i do to fix that???
[08:04] <Kream> Riddell:  was the squashfs layout  optimised to start faster ?
[08:04] <fiyawerx> whats the command to reconfigure your xorg? isn't it like dpkg-reconfigure xserver.xorg or so
[08:04] <Riddell> namhaid: are you related to felixjet?
[08:04] <namhaid> yes
[08:04] <Jucato> fiyawerx: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:04] <namhaid> i am felixjet
[08:04] <fiyawerx> thats the one, ty
[08:04] <Riddell> Kream: I don't know I'm afraid, tfheen would know (but he's not at a computer just now)
[08:05] <Riddell> namhaid: as I said to felixjet, it sounds like linux can't read itself probably because the hard disk is corrupt, you should reinstall
[08:05] <Riddell> namhaid: infact you should be able to get away with just apt-getting the linux image
[08:05] <namhaid> but im on linux right now :S
[08:06] <Riddell> apt-get --reinstall linux-xxx
[08:06] <Riddell> apt-get install --reinstall linu-xxx rather
[08:06] <namhaid> on recovery mode, but im on KDE with all working
[08:06] <namhaid> i will lose data or configs? or apps?
[08:06] <fiyawerx> with any luck, brb
[08:06] <Riddell> namhaid: you won't loose anything by just reinstalling the linux package
[08:07] <Riddell> fiyawerx: success at something?
[08:07] <fiyawerx> hm, or not
[08:07] <fiyawerx> was tryin to get my nvidia drivers workin :)
[08:07] <fiyawerx> got nice resolution and whatnot, looks like no glx tho
[08:09] <Kream> Riddell:  ahh he's the casper guy
[08:09] <jobless_> !info wireless
[08:09] <ubotu> Package wireless does not exist in any distro I know
[08:09] <jobless_> !wireless assistant
[08:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wireless assistant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:09] <namhaid> Riddell: what if i compile a new kernel and install it? will works?
[08:09] <jobless_> !info wireless assistant
[08:09] <ubotu> Package wireless does not exist in edgy
[08:09] <fiyawerx> !nvidia
[08:09] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:09] <momal> Aww.. I tried that guide already.. flash9 works just no sound :(
[08:10] <fiyawerx> i remember a problem like that
[08:13] <fiyawerx> awesome, glx works, nvidia works :)
[08:13] <harmental> hi everybody.....i have quite of a problem....
[08:13] <fiyawerx> hmm, now to find somehow to make the fonts not hurt my eyes so much @ 1280x1024
[08:14] <fiyawerx> !fonts
[08:14] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[08:14] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[08:14] <harmental> i've upgraded to edgy and since then i cant create folders with french characters ( )
[08:14] <harmental> any ideas???
[08:14] <harmental> bonjour  tous!
[08:15] <Riddell> namhaid: why compile it when you can use apt-get?
[08:15] <harmental> je viens de faire un upgrade  edgy et je ne peut plus creer de dossiers avec de lettre du genre    .....
[08:15] <namhaid> Riddell: can you help me with the exact command please? im so noob still :(
[08:15] <harmental> qqun aurait des idees????
[08:16] <Jucato> !fr
[08:16] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[08:16] <Riddell> namhaid: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic
[08:17] <namhaid> linux-image-generic ??
[08:17] <namhaid> okeY
[08:17] <harmental> anybody?
[08:17] <namhaid> thank you :)
[08:18] <jobless_> hey i have to connect to two different wireless networks (at school and one at home). shud i use the network profiles to save the settings?
[08:18] <jobless_> !wireless
[08:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[08:25] <fiyawerx> !mp3
[08:25] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:29] <willy> que onda
[08:29] <willy> alguien me puede ayudar no puedo instalar
[08:30] <Jucato> !es
[08:30] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[08:30] <fiyawerx> where does libxine-extracodecs come from? I enabled the commented out sources and did an update, but it still can't seem to find it
[08:33] <Jucato> fiyawerx: multiverse. you have to add it manually
[08:33] <Jucato> !multiverse | fiyawerx
[08:33] <ubotu> fiyawerx: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[08:33] <fiyawerx> thanks again
[08:37] <willy> alguien me ayuda
[08:38] <fiyawerx> !firefox
[08:38] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[08:49] <unoe> assalamualaikom
[08:49] <unoe> hellowww
[08:49] <unoe> any body home
[08:49] <lunitik> unoe: apparently not  :(
[08:49] <fiyawerx> where can i change the font xterm uses?
[08:50] <fiyawerx> argh
[08:50] <fiyawerx> all these fonts look too skinny/sharp
[08:50] <lunitik> fiyawerx: xterm is definitely not designed with the tweaker in mind  ;)
[08:50] <fiyawerx> i cant seem to find any that dont look horrid on my lcd
[08:50] <fiyawerx> i just want something nice for mudding heh
[08:51] <fiyawerx> it seems to be just stuck at $Deafult
[08:51] <fiyawerx> so im changing the fonts in system settings -> appearance
[08:51] <method|> fiyawerx: try konsole
[08:51] <fiyawerx> havnt found any serif's that actually look good
[08:51] <method|> you can configure fonts in that i think
[08:51] <fiyawerx> er.. thats what i meant
[08:51] <fiyawerx> i didn't mean xterm , sorry
[08:51] <method|> first off all you gotta do alot to make fonts not look like shit in linux period
[08:51] <fiyawerx> oh
[08:51] <fiyawerx> so its not just me
[08:51] <method|> hold on a sec
[08:51] <method|> i'll tell you how to make them better
[08:52] <lunitik> method|: That was a true statement 5 years ago....
[08:52] <fiyawerx> oh
[08:52] <fiyawerx> i turned anti-aliasing for fonts off
[08:52] <method|> lunitik: no it isnt
[08:52] <fiyawerx> and on dejavu serif, it looks like it may be ok
[08:52] <method|> default ubuntu fonts look like crap
[08:52] <lunitik> method|: actually pretty much until Xorg branched, and they started syncing fontconfig
[08:52] <method|> there's a command it was like dkpg font reconfig or something
[08:52] <method|> anyone know what im talking about?
[08:53] <method|> i forget the exact console command
[08:53] <lunitik> method|: dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig  or  defoma?
[08:53] <method|> yeah that's it
[08:53] <fiyawerx> will that do a lot? I think i have have helped it by turning AA off
[08:53] <method|> fiyawerx: enter that in
[08:53] <method|> and turn everything to none or off or disabled
[08:54] <lunitik> fiyawerx: Gnome font configuration has a few defaults for different cases... such as LCD screens... KDE has nothing like that....
[08:54] <willy> alguien me puede ayudar, quiero instalar jbuilder
[08:54] <method|> once you do that go to kmenu->appearance->fonts  click the option to enable anti aliasing
[08:55] <method|> then click on configure
[08:55] <method|> and make the hinting style SLIGHT
[08:55] <method|> then you might wanna reboot or something
[08:55] <method|> also
[08:55] <method|> for some reason I have noticed that enabling BERYL/AIGLX or BERYL/XGL makes your fonts way better too
[08:55] <method|> i dont know why but it does
[08:56] <fiyawerx> i was thinking about that
[08:56] <method|> my fonts in kubuntu rival OSX's
[08:56] <fiyawerx> havnt read up on beryl/xgl yet tho
[08:56] <method|> but yeah if you follow all those steps then everything will look a whole lot better
[08:56] <fiyawerx> but have a gig of ram and 128 meg pci-e nvidia 6600gt card
[08:57] <fiyawerx> ok almost done, brb
[08:57] <method|> fonts are my main linux annoyances
[08:57] <fiyawerx> nod, i do a lot of nethack and muds so want it to look right :)
[08:57] <fiyawerx> should I, er, what actual font for default do you suggest?
[08:57] <fiyawerx> i set it to dejavu's
[08:57] <fiyawerx> should i set it back?
[08:58] <lunitik> fiyawerx: dejavu is my favorate... and everyone is setting it as default... works out  :)
[08:58] <fiyawerx> :)
[08:58] <knapp> wow ktorrent is freakin wacky
[08:58] <method|> hrm
[08:58] <fiyawerx> ok, one last question, you know how colors in terminals differ sometimes
[08:58] <fiyawerx> like there's 2 main "color schemas"
[08:58] <method|> yeah i think i use sans serif
[08:59] <fiyawerx> where red in one window may look different than red on another
[08:59] <method|> yep i use sans serif
[08:59] <lunitik> uhh... pretend I spelled that correctly
[08:59] <fiyawerx> brb restarting x
[08:59] <Jucato> lunitik: ok. I'll pretend :P
[08:59] <xunix> help.. how to reinstall my mysql..???
[09:00] <lunitik> xunix: umm... apt-cache search mysql ... but probably "apt-get install --reinstall mysql-server"  (maybe not?)
[09:01] <lunitik> Jucato: thanks for the correction... hadn't turned on spell checking  :$
[09:01] <Jucato> lunitik: I don't have it on either...
[09:01] <xunix> lunitik: ok.. i'll try it
[09:02] <fiyawerx> ok, thats a bit better
[09:02] <fiyawerx> altho when i did the 'dpkg-reconfigure' it just did al ot of stuff automatically, was no asking for anything
[09:02] <lunitik> Jucato: oh, I do now... I can't live without spell checker... annoying!
[09:02] <Jucato> lunitik: on Konversation?
[09:02] <lunitik> Jucato: yeah... right click where you type and select "Auto Spell Check" or whatever at the bottem
[09:03] <lunitik> bottom even
[09:03] <fiyawerx> aww, it doesn't like hah
[09:03] <Jucato> oh kool
[09:03] <Jucato> never realized it was there hehehe
[09:03] <fiyawerx> or aww, for that matter
[09:03] <fiyawerx> can you change konversation's scheme to not be dark on light?
[09:04] <Jucato> fiyawerx: yes. whatever color you choose
[09:04] <lunitik> Jucato: you don't talk to Sho_ enough  ;)
[09:04] <Jucato> or font, for that matter
[09:04] <philip_> I was wondering if anyone knows what would cause my entire computer to freeze.  I was using KTorrent when I opened a video file in Kaffenine, which caused my mouse and everything else to just freeze in place, forcing a restart.
[09:04] <fiyawerx> hmm
[09:04] <Jucato> lunitik: not really. just never had a need for it in IRC... :P
[09:04] <fiyawerx> will ahve to look into that
[09:04] <fiyawerx> so much white makes my head hurt
[09:04] <Jucato> fiyawerx: Settings -> Configure Konversation -> Interface group -> Colors
[09:05] <lunitik> philip_: no idea... sorry... anything enlightening in logs?
[09:05] <fiyawerx> aw damn
[09:05] <fiyawerx> you have to change them all manually
[09:05] <Jucato> err.. yeah
[09:06] <lunitik> philip_: /var/log/syslog.0 for instance....
[09:06] <fiyawerx> was hoping it'd have schemes :)
[09:06] <Jucato> lazy guy :P
[09:06] <Jucato> j/k
[09:06] <fiyawerx> hehe
[09:06] <fiyawerx> mostly :)
[09:07] <fiyawerx> guess i'll have to leave it white for now, or maybe find another client that i can totally theme dark
[09:07] <fiyawerx> changing thebg only changes the actual channel bg, still have ugly wihte all over
[09:07] <fiyawerx> lol, only thing turning spellcheck on does is make me type more red words :)
[09:07] <Jucato> ugly white where?
[09:07] <fiyawerx> like the channel list
[09:07] <lunitik> fiyawerx: you're thinking too locally.... KControl > Appearence & Themes > Colors ... use a dark theme  :)
[09:07] <fiyawerx> lunitik: aha, thanks! will check that out
[09:08] <Jucato> that's a solution too. but affects the entire desktop
[09:08] <fiyawerx> that'll work :)
[09:08] <lunitik> fiyawerx: haha... I actually check unless its on purpose  :)
[09:08] <fiyawerx> i didnt think to look into full kde themes, will have to check out some sites
[09:08] <philip_> Theres nothing in /var/log/syslog.0 since nine hours ago.
[09:09] <willy> alguien sabe como instalar jbuilder
[09:09] <fiyawerx> !themes
[09:09] <ubotu> Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://kdelook.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy
[09:09] <lunitik> what is that language? Portuguese ?
[09:10] <yamal> !es
[09:10] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:10] <fiyawerx> oh, i guess this will be a lot of moot if i use beryl and whatnot right
[09:10] <lunitik> yamal: thanks  :)
[09:11] <lunitik> fiyawerx: beryl themes only the window manager (right click title bar > advanced > no border to see exactly what window managers are responsible for -- it tells you how to get it back... PAY ATTENTION))
[09:11] <willy> sh /home/kilitoz/per_install.bin
[09:11] <willy> Preparing to install...
[09:11] <willy> Extracting the JRE from the installer archive...
[09:12] <willy> Unpacking the JRE...
[09:12] <willy> Extracting the installation resources from the installer archive...
[09:12] <willy> Configuring the installer for this system's environment...
[09:12] <willy> Launching installer...
[09:12] <willy> /tmp/install.dir.8735/Linux/resource/jre/bin/i386/native_threads/java: error whi le loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object  file: No such file or directory
[09:12] <willy> error whi le loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object  file: No such file or directory
[09:12] <Jucato> !;
[09:12] <lunitik> !paster
[09:12] <lunitik> !past
[09:12] <Jucato> !pastebin | willy
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about paster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <ubotu> willy: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about past - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:12] <namhaid> laggers xD
[09:12] <fiyawerx> oh, thats all that beryl does?
[09:12] <fiyawerx> hmm
[09:12] <fiyawerx> i don't really mind kde's that much
[09:12] <method|> it makes your windows wiggle
[09:12] <method|> lol
[09:13] <fiyawerx> lol
[09:13] <willy> method
[09:13] <method|> i love beryl tho honestly
[09:13] <willy> help me
[09:13] <method|> it's still kind of buggy
[09:13] <lunitik> fiyawerx: well... all the cool effects too... but thats where its implemented
[09:13] <method|> willy: with what?
[09:13] <willy> whit error is error whi le loading shared libraries: libstdc++-libc6.1-1.so.2: cannot open shared object  file: No such file or directory
[09:13] <lunitik> fiyawerx: If I was you I'd just wait for KDE4's kwin... which will support similar things.....
[09:13] <method|> what are you trying to do?
[09:14] <method|> lunitik: who wants to wait when you can have cool things now?
[09:14] <method|> heh
[09:14] <fiyawerx> lunitik: nod
[09:14] <method|> willy: what are you trying to do first of all?
[09:14] <lunitik> method|: because Beryl is _very_ broken today?
[09:14] <fiyawerx> im in no rush, once i get a decent color scheme set
[09:14] <method|> lunitik: i wouldn't say VERY
[09:14] <lunitik> method|: I would
[09:14] <method|> it has its quirks
[09:14] <willy> installing jbuilder
[09:14] <willy> i dont know
[09:14] <willy> can u help me
[09:14] <method|> you apparently dont have some libraries that you need
[09:15] <lunitik> The bot needs a way to translate things
[09:15] <willy> yes i have
[09:15] <willy> i write udo apt-get install libstdc++6
[09:16] <method|> did it successfully install?
[09:16] <willy> no
[09:16] <xunix> !pastebin
[09:16] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[09:16] <lunitik> willy: add universe and multiverse to /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get update && apt-get install sun-java5-plugin
[09:16] <willy> out me
[09:16] <method|> follow lunitiks advice
[09:16] <method|> cause i honestly dont know much about java anything
[09:17] <lunitik> willy: for devel? use sun-java5-sdk
[09:17] <gflash> moin
[09:18] <lunitik> gflash: you mistyped gnash ?
[09:18] <xunix> help me.. my mysql problem in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30716/
[09:18] <lunitik> xunix: it says to look at /var/log/syslog.0 .... paste that someplace if you don't understand it....
[09:18] <willy> thank u anothers day
[09:18] <willy> thanks
[09:19] <gflash> lunitik: not really :) gflash is a short form of my real name
[09:19] <lunitik> gflash: of sorry.... gnash is gnu flash  :o
[09:20] <lunitik> Only compatible to Flash 7 though... which doesn't work with most Flash things these days  :(
[09:21] <gflash> sounds interesting. the flash9beta works great for me, but a free flash player would be much better
[09:22] <gflash> does it work with konqueror?
[09:22] <fiyawerx> hmm
[09:22] <lunitik> gflash: via nsplugins probably... but yes either way
[09:22] <fiyawerx> i ahvnt tried getting flash working yet, im scared
[09:23] <lunitik> fiyawerx: its not scary.... wuss
[09:23] <lunitik> :P
[09:23] <fiyawerx> !flash
[09:23] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:23] <fiyawerx> well then, lets take a look
[09:23] <method|> [02:21]  <gflash> sounds interesting. the flash9beta works great for me, but a free flash player would be much better
[09:23] <gflash> fiyawerx: it's quite easy... download and unpack it, copy the .so in the correct dir and it works :)
[09:23] <xunix> lunitik: it's say cannot found mysqld.sock.. en there is no file in /var/run/mysqld/
[09:23] <method|> gflash: does it really?
[09:24] <method|> gflash: flash 9 crashes opera regularly
[09:24] <method|> it works decently on konqueror
[09:24] <lunitik> fiyawerx: yeah... just go grab the Adobe flash9beta stuff... untar it and throw the lib into /usr/lib/firefox/plugins .... done
[09:24] <method|> but it still kinda sucks
[09:24] <gflash> method|: ist crashes my konqueror sometimes, but not very often
[09:24] <fiyawerx> cool
[09:24] <fiyawerx> this will make me happy :)
[09:24] <method|> flash 9 and opera didn't mix well together at all :(
[09:24] <somekool> hi there... any kubuntu live CD yet with KDE developer preview 2 ?
[09:24] <namhaid> opera sucks
[09:24] <namhaid> xD
[09:24] <lunitik> xunix: packages.ubuntu.com has a way to search files... see what provides them
[09:24] <method|> made me switch to konqueror
[09:24] <gflash> the beta is much faster tha the old flash7 for linux
[09:25] <gflash> maybe as fast as flash in windows is
[09:26] <fiyawerx> ok, im impressed
[09:26] <fiyawerx> i remember how bad this was lol
[09:26] <lunitik> gflash: flash is still ugly in Konqueror... blah... will be nice to be able to have a community maintained version that is compatible with current adobe stuffs
[09:26] <fiyawerx> well google video working great in ff
[09:27] <lunitik> fiyawerx: Flash plugins are fine in Firefox... likewise Java stuffs... I usually only use Firefox for such things... and other more adult things  :P
[09:27] <gflash> fiyawerx: it works also in konqeror
[09:27] <felixjet> firefox is a bit.. always crash when im working and i loss all
[09:27] <lunitik> Then Konqueror for general browsing
[09:27] <lunitik> felixjet: Firefox can "Restore Session"  :/
[09:27] <gflash> i like it very much, but it could be a little faster ;)
[09:27] <fiyawerx> nod
[09:27] <felixjet> but only 2.0 right?
[09:28] <fiyawerx> i kinda do like konq
[09:28] <lunitik> felixjet: yes... thats the version in Edgy... what Kubuntu you using?
[09:28] <felixjet> 6.06
[09:28] <lunitik> felixjet: ew... upgrade!  :P
[09:28] <felixjet> why?
[09:28] <Jucato> Konqueror can "save" a session, too. but not automatically
[09:28] <felixjet> edgy only offer bugs
[09:28] <lunitik> felixjet: actually... its probably in backports.... you have those enabled?
[09:29] <felixjet> yes
[09:29] <lunitik> felixjet: Edgy is all stable upstream software...
[09:29] <felixjet> i dont stop read ppl asking for help in edgy, most on upgrades from dapper
[09:29] <gflash> well, more or less stable ;)
[09:29] <felixjet> so im scared lol
[09:30] <lunitik> felixjet: heh.... ye o lil trust  :P
[09:30] <method|> [02:28]  <Jucato> Konqueror can "save" a session, too. but not automatically
[09:30] <method|> how can you make konq do this?
[09:30] <method|> i really miss that feature from opera
[09:30] <fiyawerx> great video to test my new flash plugin
[09:30] <gflash> i had to disable the splash screen on bootup. with the splash, my edgy sometimes doesn't boot
[09:30] <Jucato> method|: Save View Profile
[09:30] <fiyawerx> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1384277706451157121&q=white+and+nerdy
[09:30] <fiyawerx> :)
[09:30] <fiyawerx> holy crap, my volume knob on the keyboard works
[09:31] <Jucato> method|: I mapped Ctrl+S to Save View Profile so that I can "save" the opened tabs.
[09:31] <gflash> woah, mine too
[09:31] <method|> Jucato: theres no way to make it do it automatically?
[09:31] <Jucato> Konqueror also has a Crash Monitor restore plugin
[09:31] <Jucato> method|: none that I know of
[09:31] <method|> ic
[09:31] <Jucato> hi Admiral_Chicago
[09:32] <lunitik> fiyawerx: kmilo to the rescue... Kubuntu still goes by Ubuntu's "just works" philosophy  ;)
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: hello
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> i hate gnome
[09:32] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: meet me in #offtopic?
[09:32] <method|> lol @ i hate gnome
[09:32] <method|> i need to try gnome out again
[09:33] <method|> havent used it in quite some time
[09:33] <method|> probably since breezy
[09:33] <Admiral_Chicago> i've been a KDE man since Breezy
[09:33] <lunitik> Admiral_Chicago: A lot of the software that goes into KDE is developed by Gnome people  *shrug*
[09:33] <fiyawerx> lunitik: volume knob never worked in dapper :)
[09:33] <Jucato> lunitik: a lot?
[09:33] <Admiral_Chicago> lunitik: yea but the gui is awful
[09:34] <lunitik> Jucato: dbus and hal... some specs ... lots of things yes
[09:34] <fiyawerx> and now it "just works" so so far i couldn't be happier with edgy
[09:34] <method|> kde is dropping dcop and going to dbus correct?
[09:34] <lunitik> Admiral_Chicago: The GUI is licensed in a more attractive way to businesses... so gets more attention from them....
[09:34] <Jucato> lunitik: dbus and hal are fdo specs. and dbus was only patterned after dcop
[09:34] <fiyawerx> now i just dont know what I want to do next
[09:34] <lunitik> method|: its already done... but won't be released until KDE4
[09:34] <fiyawerx> ahh, of course, backgrounds
[09:35] <lunitik> Jucato: they were both developed within the Gnome community first *shrug*
[09:35] <Jucato> lunitik: dbus was only developed by GNOME in response (or retaliation?) to dcop
[09:36] <lunitik> My point is - with Open Source - everyone wins... because everyone benefits...
[09:36] <fiyawerx> except the people who own the competiton
[09:36] <fiyawerx> :)
[09:36] <lunitik> Jucato: wrong... it is becoming more like dcop today due to kde folks
[09:36] <Jucato> except the people who make money out of the competition
[09:36] <lunitik> Jucato: they actually were thinking about dcop... but basically they decided bonobo sucked... and needed something better
[09:37] <fiyawerx> figures
[09:37] <Jucato> lunitik: dcop came first. but it was  KDE-only technology. then GNOME started to develop DBus for themselves and then was suggested to fdo
[09:37] <fiyawerx> deviantART is currently performing system maintenance.
[09:37] <lunitik> Jucato: Anything can go to fdo... kde folks caved because gnome folks wouldn't....
[09:38] <gflash> well, the "change screen" button on my notebook crashes the kernel :(
[09:38] <gflash> but the other buttons work! :)
[09:39] <lunitik> Jucato: better for all if the linux desktop uses the same things to talk to itself  :)
[09:40] <lunitik> Gnome folks don't seem to care about anything but Gnome though  :/
[09:40] <charlie5> hi folks ...
[09:41] <lunitik> (actually, not true... because they are adopting -basically- kde's mime type specs...
[09:41] <lunitik> )
[09:41] <lunitik> charlie5: hey
[09:41] <charlie5> ... would anyone happen to have a HP PSC 1610 printer ?
[09:41] <charlie5> gday lunitik :D
[09:42] <lunitik> !printing
[09:42] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[09:42] <xunix> !mysqld.sock
[09:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mysqld.sock - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:42] <lunitik> !find mysqld.sock
[09:42] <ubotu> Package/file mysqld.sock does not exist in edgy
[09:43] <charlie5> lunitik: cheers ... i will read these :) ... i had some trubble with this printer with breezy and was wondering if anything has changed for casper
[09:43] <adwait> mysqld.sock isn't a package..........its the socked used to connect to mysql
[09:43] <lunitik> charlie5: for casper?
[09:43] <lunitik> It says that during boot too... I thought 6.10 was Edgy Eft?
[09:45] <lunitik> adwait: so xunix should install sockd ?
[09:45] <adwait> lutnik: i just came so I don't quite know what the problem is.....but the socked isnt something that can be installed
[09:46] <adwait> lutnik: the socked file show normally be created by mysql itself
[09:46] <fiyawerx> anyone know how i get the 'vga' font?
[09:46] <fiyawerx> !fonts
[09:46] <ubotu> Font installation basics here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FontInstallHowto
[09:46] <ubotu> No fonts in flash? Install msttcorefonts, gsfonts, and gsfonts-x11 , No fonts in mplayer? see !mplayer
[09:46] <adwait> *socket
[09:47] <lunitik> adwait: [01:18]  <xunix> help me.. my mysql problem in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30716/     [01:23]  <xunix> lunitik: it's say cannot found mysqld.sock.. en there is no file in /var/run/mysqld/   <-- all he's really said
[09:47] <fiyawerx> ooh, i need to install nxserver so i can get here from work
[09:47] <adwait> hmm, i had the same problem after an upgrade
[09:47] <lunitik> adwait: the second message is from syslog.0 ...
[09:47] <adwait> try renaming the /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[09:48] <lunitik> adwait: direct your help at xunix so it gets his attention... I've never messed with a MySQL server...
[09:48] <adwait> xunix: u there?
[09:48] <lunitik> (actually, I guess this is probably via Amarok? I usually use sqlite for that...)
[09:49] <adwait> hmm...hes gone i guess...
[09:49] <lunitik> adwait: oh well... thanks for trying   :)
[09:51] <adwait> not much activity here ...
[09:51] <nino> uhu
[09:54] <xunix> lunitik: yup
[09:55] <lunitik> xunix: meet adwait  ;)
[09:55] <xunix> lunitik: i dont know.. how can the mysqld.sock file is gone in /var/run/mysqld/
[09:56] <osiris> what is the name of the service to monitor cpu temp  ?
[09:56] <osiris> im at a total loss right now
[09:57] <lunitik> osiris: lmsensors ?
[09:57] <osiris> THERE you go
[09:57] <osiris> thanks
[09:57] <osiris> was driving me nuts
[09:57] <lunitik> osiris: you're welcome   :)
[09:57] <xunix> adwait: i'm here
[09:57] <Jucato> gkrellm?
[09:58] <osiris> no not gkrellm
[09:58] <lunitik> Jucato: gkrelm uses lmsensors ...
[09:58] <osiris> and lmsensors turns up nothin in my sources list.  but i DO remember lmsensors to be correct at one time
[09:58] <Jucato> lunitik: iirc, it doesn't...
[09:58] <lunitik> (or can, I don't think its a default plugin?)
[09:58] <osiris> i have gkrellm
[09:59] <abattoir> !info lmsensors
[09:59] <ubotu> Package lmsensors does not exist in any distro I know
[09:59] <abattoir> !info lmsensor
[09:59] <ubotu> Package lmsensor does not exist in any distro I know
[09:59] <Jucato> abattoir: maybe you can provide some clarification?
[09:59] <Jucato> !lm-sensors
[09:59] <xunix> adwait: mysqld.sock in /var/run/mysqld/ is disappear
[09:59] <ubotu> lm-sensors: utilities to read temperature/voltage/fan sensors. In component main, is extra. Version 1:2.10.0-7ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 479 kB, installed size 1472 kB
[09:59] <abattoir> Jucato: w.r.t what?
[09:59] <Jucato> whether gkrellm uses lm-sensors
[09:59] <Jucato> or not
[09:59] <abattoir> Jucato: all i use is beautiful Superkaramba, and i know it doesn't use it ;)
[09:59] <Jucato> hahah
[10:00] <abattoir> though you can script it to use it
[10:00] <osiris> abattoir, cheers
[10:00] <abattoir> osiris: :)
[10:00] <Jucato> oh \well
[10:00] <cpk1> i think i tried using a superkaramba thingy but for some reason it wouldnt work
[10:00] <felixjet> lunitik: i've been thinking... xd should i upgrade to edgy? (really)
[10:00] <osiris> no
[10:00] <abattoir> cpk1: which one?
[10:01] <cpk1> abattoir: i think mostly anything... let me try again =P
[10:01] <abattoir> cpk1: there are a lot of useful/good looking ones, give them a shot again ;)
[10:01] <fiyawerx> hmm
[10:01] <fiyawerx> anyone else play nethack?
[10:02] <cpk1> abattoir: any you reccomend?
[10:02] <fiyawerx> trying to find a font that will display ibm graphics in konsole
[10:02] <lunitik> fiyawerx: Falcons Eye or whatever is a cool frontend for it....
[10:02] <abattoir> cpk1: depends on your needs, get yourself a nice system monitor, and of course the all-time popular liquid weather plus
[10:03] <abattoir> cpk1: browse through them briefly, and you might find some useful stuff
[10:04] <leslie> lu tout le monde
[10:04] <abattoir> !fr
[10:04] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:04] <abattoir> leslie: ^^^
[10:06] <cpk1> abattoir: bah i have download and install liquid weather manually =P
[10:06] <Lancellor> quick quesion i have a turion 64x2 wich is a dual core 6r bit laptop do i use the 64 bit edition or can i use the pc edition
[10:06] <abattoir> Lancellor: you can use both
[10:06] <abattoir> Lancellor: but if you are new to linux, i suggest the 32-bit version
[10:06] <Lancellor> so what is the diference
[10:07] <abattoir> Lancellor: your processor has 32-bit compatibility mode, so it can run a 32-bit OS as well
[10:07] <leslie> j'"ai une edgy et je trouve quelle consomme normment de mmmoir 412845 kb dans la charge du systeme c normal ou y a un pb?
[10:07] <abattoir> !fr | leslie
[10:07] <ubotu> leslie: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[10:07] <abattoir> unless that isn't fr
[10:07] <leslie> oki
[10:07] <fiyawerx> lunitik: i play on nethack.alt.org's server, keeps scores and whatnot :) just trying to find a font that will actually display it irght, works great in putty on windoze
[10:07] <Lancellor> now i have a pavilion dv2125nr do i have any chances of succed???
[10:07] <felixjet> !torcs
[10:07] <ubotu> torcs: 3D racing cars simulator game using OpenGL. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4-2 (edgy), package size 4371 kB, installed size 20892 kB
[10:07] <cpk1> has anyone experienced gaim using up 100% cpu and not being able to redraw itself while thats happening?
[10:08] <abattoir> Lancellor: sure it should work fine
[10:08] <charlie5> lunitik: sorry :) ... 'edgy'  i meant
[10:08] <cpk1> this can go on for several minutes
[10:08] <abattoir> Lancellor: there is a Laptop testing page at the wiki... you can browse through it if you want
[10:08] <Lancellor> can i get it?? thanks
[10:08] <abattoir> Lancellor: one sec
[10:09] <Lancellor> thanks for your help
[10:09] <Jucato> !laptop
[10:09] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[10:10] <cpk1> abattoir: whats the package name for pyqt?
[10:10] <abattoir> cpk1: it should already be installed
[10:10] <abattoir> !info python-qt3
[10:10] <ubotu> python-qt3: Qt3 bindings for Python. In component main, is optional. Version 3.16-1.2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 2209 kB, installed size 9968 kB
[10:10] <cpk1> ok, just making sure i have all the deps for liquid weather
[10:12] <felixjet> its the info about upgrade on "http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php" right?
[10:12] <abattoir> Lancellor: closest i could find was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/HP_Pavilion_dv2120us , but its not really useful
[10:12] <felixjet> or it will gives errors?
[10:12] <abattoir> !upgrade | felixjet
[10:12] <ubotu> felixjet: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[10:13] <abattoir> felixjet: follow those
[10:13] <felixjet> okey
[10:13] <abattoir> Lancellor: should work though
[10:17] <felixjet> abattoir: can i do it now, right? i mean from KDE with some apps open
[10:17] <abattoir> felixjet: yeah sure, that's not a problem
[10:18] <abattoir> felixjet: just follow those instructions carefully, make sure kubuntu-desktop is installed and that packages like xserver-xorg aren't held back
[10:19] <ubuntu__> i have erased my kernel-image on /boot. how can i reinstall it ?
[10:20] <abattoir> ubuntu__: which one vmlinuz?
[10:20] <ubuntu__> is it a dpkg-reconfigure <somepackage> or apt-get install kernel-image ?
[10:20] <abattoir> ubuntu__: it's provided by the appropriate linux-image package
[10:20] <ubuntu__> abattoir: yes
[10:20] <felixjet> well, this is downloading more than a GB :S
[10:20] <abattoir> felixjet: dapper-> edgy?
[10:20] <felixjet> ya
[10:20] <abattoir> felixjet: hmm, i guess you have a lot of packages from universe installed
[10:21] <felixjet> yes xd
[10:24] <ubuntu__> abattoir: apt-get install linux-image-2.6.17-10-generic
[10:24] <ubuntu__> i need this
[10:24] <abattoir> ubuntu__: it'd say it's already installed
[10:24] <ubuntu__> but apt-get says: already installed
[10:24] <abattoir> ubuntu__: sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-image....
[10:24] <ubuntu__> ok
[10:25] <ubuntu__> do you know if the initrd is in this pak too ?
[10:25] <abattoir> ubuntu__: no initrd is generated by a script
[10:25] <abattoir> ubuntu__: you deleted that as well?
[10:25] <ubuntu__> yes
[10:25] <abattoir> ubuntu__: just curious... why?
[10:26] <ubuntu__> but i only need the vmlinuz and initrd
[10:27] <abattoir> ubuntu__: try 'sudo update-initramfs -k 2.6.17-10-386 -c'
[10:28] <Schalken> how come when i move a floating toolbar it jumps around allover the place?
[10:29] <osiris> is 118 degrees F considered hot for a chip ?
[10:30] <abattoir> osiris: i guess it depends on the chip
[10:30] <osiris> xp1900
[10:30] <abattoir> osiris: search online, there might be a chart showing the temp. that it can withstand
[10:30] <abattoir> osiris: my turion often goes to 89 C
[10:30] <osiris> http://rafb.net/paste/results/uM4ECL57.nln.html
[10:30] <abattoir> and nothing has happened... yet :P
[10:31] <osiris> anything look strange ?
[10:31] <osiris> this thing has been locking up a lot lately
[10:31] <x_link> Hi folx !
[10:31] <osiris> might be my video card
[10:31] <x_link> I just have a question. I'm really new with Linux and I use Debian.
[10:32] <dhq> fdoving:hey  do you have any idea on user bars or where i can get help
[10:32] <abattoir> osiris: oh, then 59 is pretty cool i guess... but as i said, checkup online
[10:32] <x_link> I heard that Kubuntu is Debian based. I have a P II that I used Debian on before, 450MHz, 640MB RAM, 64MB GeForce2 MX-440 video card etc. Debian workde pretty good on that machine.
[10:32] <cpk1> abattoir: liquid weather worked painlessly =D
[10:32] <abattoir> x_link: this is a kubuntu channel... but we may still be able to help you
[10:32] <x_link> But Kubuntu is running really slow, why is that ?
[10:32] <abattoir> cpk1: :)
[10:32] <x_link> abattoir: I know it's a Kubuntu channel, my question is about Kubuntu as well =)
[10:33] <abattoir> x_link: hmmm... is booting slow or just KDE/
[10:33] <abattoir> *?
[10:33] <x_link> It takes some time when I'am opening programs etc.
[10:33] <abattoir> x_link: or do you mean the live cd?
[10:33] <x_link> Nope, not live cd.-
[10:33] <x_link> I just installed Kubuntu on it cause I want to see how it is.
[10:34] <x_link> I like Debian, and I heard that Kubuntu is like Debian ( but a bit easier)
[10:34] <x_link> But I can run Kubuntu on this machine, it's much better than that P II. I just installed it on the P II to see how it looks.
[10:34] <ehird> ubuntu is basically an annual fork of debian
[10:34] <abattoir> x_link: could be because of the graphics card... have you tried installing the binary nvidia drivers?
[10:34] <Schalken> x_link: it is, but like any OS it has problems with certain hardware ;)
[10:34] <ehird> so basically it IS debian but easier
[10:35] <x_link> Schalken: Okey.
[10:35] <x_link> ehird: Okey.
[10:35] <x_link> abattoir: I don't have internet access on that machine.
[10:35] <x_link> I must get a router first.
[10:36] <x_link> But one thing I didn't like with Kubuntu is that it doesn't have any programs at all.
[10:36] <abattoir> x_link: what do you mean?
[10:36] <x_link> well, it have programs lol. But not as Debian.
[10:36] <ehird> um
[10:36] <abattoir> x_link: it comes w/ a pretty comprehensive suite of apps
[10:36] <ehird> stop saying "like in debian"
[10:36] <ehird> ubuntu IS a fork of debian
[10:36] <abattoir> x_link: you can install more if you want to
[10:36] <ehird> and, it has apt-get like debian
[10:36] <x_link> Okey.
[10:36] <x_link> ehird: Really ?
[10:36] <ehird> ...i guess debian was your first distro
[10:36] <x_link> Great!
[10:36] <ehird> just about any distro has something like apt-get
[10:36] <x_link> ehird: yes, I'm REALLY ned with Linux and I'm REALLY lame with Linux.
[10:37] <x_link> Okey.
[10:37] <cpk1> if i install nvidia-settings it will break nvidia-glx right?
[10:37] <ehird> and after a quick check, ubuntu seems to have 17k packages
[10:37] <ehird> do you need more than 17,000 peices of software? :)
[10:37] <x_link> ehird: I didn't like Ubuntu cause it's using GNOME. That's why I picked Kubuntu.
[10:37] <x_link> Is there any other Debian based distros ?
[10:37] <ehird> x_link: i don't like gnome either, yeah
[10:37] <ehird> and MEPIS is one
[10:37] <ehird> but now that's based on ubuntu
[10:37] <x_link> Okey.
[10:38] <ehird> which basically makes it a clone of Kubuntu
[10:38] <x_link> I read on www.distrowatch.com that Xandros and Mepis is the best/easiest distro for beginners.
[10:38] <abattoir> ehird: edgy has more than 20k ;)
[10:38] <abattoir> w/ universe/multiverse enabled
[10:38] <ehird> weird
[10:38] <x_link> I have a big program when it comes to computers.
[10:38] <ehird> i have multiverse and universe enabled
[10:38] <ehird> and it says 17k
[10:38] <x_link> I'm REALLY stupid, I mean really really lame.
[10:38] <abattoir> x_link: well, kubuntu targets being easy for the new user as well
[10:39] <x_link> Okey.
[10:39] <x_link> But is Debian a bad choice ?
[10:39] <ehird> talking about how stupid you are doesn't help anything does it
[10:39] <ehird> and if you're a noob? stay away from debian and especially gentoo
[10:40] <x_link> The thing is ehird, I REALLY want to learn Linux better, cause I REALLY love it. But it takes me hours just to understand one thing.
[10:40] <ehird> stick with kubuntu
[10:40] <ehird> it'll help
[10:40] <x_link> I read on distrowatch.com that Debian, Slackware and gentoo are the hardest distros. When I read that then I was considering to maybe change distro. That's why I got Kubuntu.
[10:41] <x_link> OKey.
[10:41] <x_link> I'm on Debian right now.
[10:41] <x_link> I will get a router today or tomorrow. Then I will use Debian on this one and Kubuntu ont he P II. And see which one I will like the most.
[10:41] <x_link> I think I will get a P III or something insted, cause Kubuntu is not running good at all on that P II.
[10:42] <x_link> Well, thanks ALOT guys for the help. I REALLY appreciate it.
[10:42] <x_link> Maybe in 10 years I will be as good as you guys are =)
[10:43] <ehird> 10 years ago ... linux was just maturing :P
[10:43] <x_link> ehird: Do you know any good site ?
[10:43] <ehird> x_link: for what?
[10:43] <x_link> I'm trying to find good swedish sites about Linux.
[10:43] <x_link> Cause the english does it to hard for me.
[10:43] <abattoir> !se
[10:43] <ubotu> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[10:43] <x_link> My english is not that good.
[10:44] <abattoir> x_link: ^^^ people there might know
[10:44] <ehird> :)
[10:44] <abattoir> there is also the Kubuntu desktop guide
[10:44] <x_link> Okey, I want to know about Linux, not just kubuntu.
[10:44] <abattoir> which i assume is translated into swedish as well
[10:44] <x_link> But I will try it out, thanks =)
[10:44] <abattoir> x_link: yes, since kubuntu *is* linux, people there'd know
[10:45] <x_link> Okey.
[10:45] <x_link> Thanks abattoir ! I appreicate it alot !
[10:45] <abattoir> x_link: you're welcome :)
[10:45] <somekool> hi there... any kubuntu live CD yet with KDE developer preview 2 ?
[10:45] <abattoir> somekool: nope
[10:45] <abattoir> atleast not officially
[10:46] <somekool> is it planned? one got release with the first developer preview
[10:46] <abattoir> somekool: it was??
[10:47] <felixjet> whats the atributes to tar a folder?
[10:47] <abattoir> somekool: i'm guessing you were confused by the edgy knot cds which were released during the same period
[10:47] <felixjet> i forgot >.<
[10:56] <KomiaPoika> hi
[10:56] <KomiaPoika> what package do i have to install to enable smime validation in kmail?
[11:02] <ehird> "Ubuntu is an ancient african word meaning 'I can't configure Debian.'" <-- rofl
[11:02] <felixjet> jajaa
[11:03] <cpk1> hrmm its hard to find a good superkaramba system monitor
[11:03] <KomiaPoika> ehird: lol
[11:05] <felixjet> cpk1:
[11:05] <felixjet> i use kstatus
[11:05] <felixjet> go kde-look and check it
[11:05] <felixjet> its easy to modify for ur needs
[11:07] <fiyawerx> !java
[11:07] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[11:08] <abattoir> ehird: lol... where was that?
[11:08] <abattoir> cpk1: there are tons of them
[11:08] <ehird> abattoir: random channel topic from /list
[11:08] <cpk1> abattoir: i know but the ones i have tried havent been very good so far
[11:08] <abattoir> cpk1: use the sort by downloads/popularity feature at kde-look
[11:09] <cpk1> i want something very similiar to gkrellm
[11:09] <momal> Werid... bluefish that comes with edgy wont open .htaccess files :S... one with dapper did
[11:12] <cpk1> and why doesnt superkaramba let me install from a tar?
[11:12] <abattoir> cpk1: you have to uncompress it manually
[11:12] <abattoir> (unless you use khotnewstuff)
[11:15] <nino> anyone know of a good email server??
[11:15] <nino> anyone know of a good email server??
[11:15] <nino> looking to replace Windaz one!!
[11:17] <cpk1> kstatus looks nice but is kind of wide =\
[11:23] <MRMorefield-ft> does someone here have Xgl?
[11:23] <MRMorefield-ft> can he help me installing it
[11:23] <MRMorefield-ft> i have glX running
[11:24] <kenny_> hi @ll
[11:24] <kenny_> wie kann ich kynaptic unter kubuntu installieren?
[11:25] <etdsdvgfhrtz> !de
[11:25] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[11:26] <etdsdvgfhrtz> jews lol wtc lol
[11:26] <abattoir> etdsdvgfhrtz: apokryphos is here too... and he has ops privs. here too...
[11:27] <abattoir> MRMorefield-ft: try #ubuntu-xgl
[11:27] <etdsdvgfhrtz> how does he hack op?
[11:27] <etdsdvgfhrtz> i also want op
[11:27] <abattoir> etdsdvgfhrtz: you can't... you need to be a contributor to the community, and more importantly well-behaved
[11:28] <apokryphos> and presumably allowed on the network 8)
[11:28] <abattoir> heh :P
[11:28] <Godfather> guys g' day
[11:28] <apokryphos> hello
[11:28] <Godfather> i have a problem
[11:28] <Godfather> my modem wireless doesn't work
[11:29] <Godfather> so we have connect a laptop to the adsl modem using the lan wire
[11:29] <Godfather> in this way the laptop works like modem wireless
[11:29] <Godfather> it works!
[11:30] <Godfather> the prblem is that this laptop uses windows
[11:30] <Godfather> and if we want to connect to it we have to use windows
[11:30] <Godfather> because if we use linux we can't see the net!
[11:30] <Godfather> is there anyone could help us??
[11:32] <KomiaPoika> settings/network/interface
[11:32] <Godfather> yeah i have just tried
[11:32] <Godfather> but i have the same problem
[11:33] <Godfather> probaby something about peer to peer connection
[11:33] <Godfather> kubuntu has got a wifi tool
[11:33] <visik7> I've a problem with edgy and a custom kernel : I've build my custom kernel with the same configure of 2.6.17-10-generic and add only one option ( Compile the kernel with debug info ) and I hadn't remove anything, all works fine slash screen and all the peripherals but if I boot in console nothing is visible expect a blinking cursor and resolution 1400x1050 (setuped via vga=0x348 at kernel boot parameters) doesn't working
[11:34] <MRMorefield-ft> what is compiz?
[11:34] <Godfather> please help me
[11:35] <visik7> MRMorefield-ft: have you ever heard of xgl ?
[11:38] <MRMorefield-ft> Xgl
[11:38] <MRMorefield-ft> yea
[11:38] <MRMorefield-ft> i have
[11:38] <MRMorefield-ft> look here : http://reems.serverthuis.nl/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=59&Itemid=40
[11:39] <visik7> MRM compiz is the window manager that do all the fancy
[11:42] <belohorec> asdfa
[11:42] <Kabal> Anyone XMMS expert here?
[11:42] <Kabal> my XMMS won't play a playlist.. it's plays the first number in the list.. after first song is done it stops.
[11:42] <Kabal> even if I drag a whole folder to xmms.. it will only play one number than stops.. I have to play the next song manually
[11:43] <[Nige] > hi all
[11:43] <B-Minus> hello
[11:43] <B-Minus> in which language are most KDE apps writen ?
[11:43] <B-Minus> c++ ?
[11:44] <belohorec> hello
[11:44] <[Nige] > B-Minus, I thought they used glad
[11:44] <[Nige] > glade
[11:45] <Kabal> who can help me with the XMMS problem?
[11:45] <Prince_of_Dark> fuck
[11:46] <Prince_of_Dark> is in english
[11:46] <visik7> xmms is old and ugly
[11:46] <Prince_of_Dark> i wont something in spain...
[11:46] <visik7> Kabal: why would you want use it ?
[11:46] <visik7> Prince_of_Dark: join ubuntu-se
[11:46] <Prince_of_Dark> excuse me
[11:46] <visik7> -es
[11:47] <Prince_of_Dark> but it doesn`t exist kubuntu-es???
[11:47] <visik7> Prince_of_Dark: I don't think / dunno
[11:47] <Prince_of_Dark> oks visik7
[11:48] <Prince_of_Dark> if xmmx is old and ugly... wath do you use to play music?
[11:48] <Kabal> visik7: eeh what kind of question is that? why not? is there a better?
[11:48] <visik7> Kabal: amarok for example
[11:48] <Kabal> my xmms like the same a winamp which rulez all mp3 players on all platforms.. (the ol winamp)
[11:49] <jerp> I'm having a problem with an install of a deb file,  In console I keep getting .... /usr/bin/dpkg: /usr/bin/dpkg: cannot execute binary file
[11:49] <visik7> as you want
[11:49] <MuJ> xmms2 <3
[11:49] <Kabal> visik7: I use maybe 10% of the Amarok program
[11:49] <visik7> Kabal: first of all amarok is written in kde
[11:50] <visik7> and for kde
[11:50] <visik7> while xmms is an old gtk1 app
[11:50] <Kabal> Kaffeine too right?
[11:50] <Kabal> ah ke
[11:51] <Kabal> XMMS worked for months.. but yesterday it got trouble
[11:51] <Kabal> won't play next song..
[11:51] <B-Minus> i just use amarok
[11:51] <B-Minus> it works perfect
[11:51] <Kabal> I'm frustrated that it won't work like usual
[11:51] <Kabal> cause I don;t know how to resolve the problem
[11:52] <visik7> Kabal: what's the problem ?
[11:52] <kay> i have installe vmware now i wanna have sound there too in it but i have to know where the physical sound adapter is how can i find it??
[11:53] <Kabal> when I put 4 MP3's in the playlist,, XMMS will play the first song and stops after that..
[11:53] <Kabal> it will not continue playing the other 3 songs
[11:53] <Kabal> even with .pls or .m3u files
[11:54] <visik7> try to remove .xmms in your home you'll loose all your settings but maybe it will solve the problem
[11:55] <Kabal> visik7: Oke I will try that
[11:55] <Kabal> brb
[11:56] <B-Minus> how is the apple - like quicklaunch bar called ?
[11:57] <B-Minus> hmm
[11:58] <Jucato> !kxdocker | B-Minus
[11:58] <ubotu> kxdocker: innovative docker for KDE that is like Mac OSX Docker. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.4a-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 327 kB, installed size 1064 kB
[11:59] <Kabal> visik7: I removed the .xmms folder and started xmms.. it created a new .xmms folder and it works again :)
[11:59] <Kabal> visik7: thanx
[11:59] <B-Minus> Jucato: tnx
[11:59] <cpk1> boo xmms
[11:59] <cpk1> i like amarok so much better
[12:00] <B-Minus> me too
[12:00] <B-Minus> amarok is even beter then windows winamp
[12:00] <KomiaPoika> even xmms is bettar than winamp
[12:00] <B-Minus> :p
[12:01] <alexicon> amarok++
[12:01] <Jucato> choice++
[12:02] <alexicon> hrm i havent seen this before... looking in kcontol at my mouse [as its not working properly]  and it says it knows ive got a logitech mouse install but at compile time "it was not possible to access ths mouse". This is probably caused by a permissions problem it carries on to say @_@
[12:06] <B-Minus> anyone using kxdocker here ?
[12:06] <blackflag> is it possible to see the boot messages during booting on edgy? Is there a key- combination?
[12:06] <Kabal> all you Amarok fanboys don't know what it's all about with the ol skool winamp
[12:06] <B-Minus> lol
[12:07] <B-Minus> i used xmms also a long time
[12:07] <B-Minus> but amarok is just better to use
[12:07] <soulrider> i just insatlled kxdocker
[12:07] <soulrider> but it wont load
[12:07] <B-Minus> hmm
[12:08] <soulrider> i dont ahve composite extensions apparently
[12:08] <Kabal> B-Minus: why is amarok just better?
[12:09] <alexicon> Kabal: amarok is the best
[12:09] <alexicon> it does everything and it looks sweet while doing it
[12:09] <MRMorefield-ft> gksudo gedit /usr/bin/startxgl.sh
[12:09] <MRMorefield-ft> gksudo does not work for me
[12:09] <MRMorefield-ft> what is the other command for creating a file?
[12:09] <Jucato> MRMorefield-ft: use "kdesu"
[12:10] <Jucato> MRMorefield-ft: kdesu kate /usr/bin/startxgl.sh
[12:10] <Jucato> MRMorefield-ft: gksudo and gedit are GNOME/Ubuntu commands
[12:10] <alexicon> ok i had to kill adept in the middle of trying to install java 1.5 because their licensing stuff killed the update. now whenever i try to run apt, it says dpkg is still being used
[12:10] <alexicon> i see the dpkg process there, can i kill it?
[12:10] <Jucato> !adept crash fix | alexicon
[12:10] <ubotu> alexicon: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[12:10] <alexicon> or is there some command i can run to flush it through
[12:11] <alexicon> ta very much
[12:11] <B-Minus> Kabal: for an example : try to stream radio with xmms, it only supports a few formats .. amarok supports them all
[12:11] <Pensacola> I'm having some problems configuring kubuntu to connect to my wireless school network
[12:11] <alexicon> thats a handy trick
[12:12] <Jucato> alexicon: usually, "sudo dpkg --configure -a" is enough
[12:12] <alexicon> ta
[12:13] <B-Minus> ok
[12:13] <B-Minus> i want to make a program that can read xml files and uploads it to a webspace, what are my choices ?
[12:14] <B-Minus> i think c++ is a little too hard for this
[12:14] <alexicon> use ruby
[12:14] <B-Minus> hmm
[12:14] <B-Minus> never used it
[12:14] <B-Minus> :(
[12:14] <alexicon> its fun :)
[12:14] <B-Minus> i dont even have it
[12:14] <B-Minus> lol
[12:14] <alexicon> http://tryruby.hobix.com/
[12:15] <alexicon> funfunfun!!!
[12:15] <alexicon> in kubuntu not having something is never much of an issue :P
[12:15] <B-Minus> heh
[12:15] <B-Minus> are there any projects made with ruby ?
[12:16] <alexicon> yea!! loads!
[12:16] <alexicon> ruby is super!
[12:18] <B-Minus> lol
[12:18] <Kannix> Hi!
[12:18] <osh_> B-Minus: Python is also a great choice. Or Ruby. Good choice too. Or Perl if you don't like structure... ;-)
[12:18] <B-Minus> are you someone hired from ruby ?
[12:18] <B-Minus> he
[12:18] <alexicon> lol
[12:18] <MRMorefield-ft> what is the kde window file?
[12:18] <rolando> hola
[12:18] <B-Minus> i mean
[12:18] <rolando> how can i force to remove a package?
[12:18] <B-Minus> im doing the ruby tutorial on the webpage its like WTF
[12:18] <alexicon> http://poignantguide.net/ruby/ B-Minus!
[12:19] <MRMorefield-ft> this is the gnome file /usr/share/xsessions/xgl.desktop
[12:19] <rolando> cuz its broken and i cant install or remove new packages
[12:19] <Kannix> What is the better way to change from Ubuntu/Gnome to Kubuntu/KDE? Just uninstall all Gnome stuff and install all KDE stuff, or is it better to reinstall from scratch?
[12:19] <alexicon> yeah Kannix basically
[12:19] <alexicon> just install gnome or kde or whatever you want to use
[12:19] <alexicon> you dont even have to remove the other one
[12:19] <alexicon> use one one day the other the next
[12:19] <alexicon> install more!
[12:19] <jerp> how do you save a file opened in nano
[12:20] <jerp> ?
[12:20] <alexicon> you choose your session at the login screen, kde, gnome, fvwm etc
[12:20] <khirr> how can i configure my webcam?
[12:20] <Kannix> alexicon: Won't the window managers "collide"? For example, is KDM or GDM used for login, etc.
[12:21] <rolando> any ideas how to remove a broken package?
[12:21] <alexicon> nah Kannix KDM will stay KDM or GDM as GDM
[12:21] <alexicon> but you can add more window managers to the list
[12:21] <Kannix> alexicon: Ok, so I install KDE without KDM :)
[12:21] <alexicon> yep!
[12:21] <KomiaPoika> smime is greyed out in kmail, what packages do i miss to get them enabled?
[12:23] <jerp> nobody knows how to save a file opened in nano?  don't tell me this is the blind leading the blind
[12:23] <Kannix> alexicon: ok, thanks. But lets say I am a little tight on Diskspace and wanted to get rid of Gnome for the sake of KDE. How would I do that the easiest way?
[12:23] <Kabal> jerp: CTRL+X
[12:23] <alexicon> hrmm kannix, id be careful gnome has ties with gtk and such ive never tried removing it in kubuntu
[12:23] <jerp> kabal, thanks I was wondering what the ^ signified
[12:24] <Kabal> :)
[12:24] <Jucato> Kannix: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde and http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde
[12:24] <Kannix> alexicon: So you cannot have KDE without Gnome?
[12:24] <Jucato> jerp: ^ = Ctrl key in most keyboard shortcuts
[12:24] <alexicon> yeah kannix you can
[12:24] <alexicon> but im not sure which gnome file you need to uninstall
[12:24] <alexicon> gnome-base or something perhaps
[12:24] <alexicon> but i dont know what implications that has on your gtk set
[12:25] <Jucato> Kannix: the first link is how to install KDE/Kubuntu on Ubuntu, the second link is how to remove GNOME/Ubuntu
[12:25] <alexicon> cos ive removed gnome before and gotten all sorts of gtk theme problems when i didnt do it properly
[12:25] <Kannix> Jucato: thanks!
[12:25] <Kannix> alexicon: That's why I want to do it properly :)
[12:25] <alexicon> heh indeed :)
[12:25] <jerp> <--------------- es mucho "newbo" Jucato
[12:26] <alexicon> lol
[12:26] <Jucato> :P
[12:26] <drarem> how do you tar something?  I tried tar -cv test.bz2 test   and i get a bunch of garbage
[12:26] <visik7> I've a problem with edgy and a custom kernel : I've build my custom kernel with the same configure of 2.6.17-10-generic and add only one option ( Compile the kernel with debug info ) and I hadn't remove anything, all works fine slash screen and all the peripherals but if I boot in console nothing is visible expect a blinking cursor and resolution 1400x1050 (setuped via vga=0x348 at kernel boot parameters) doesn't working
[12:26] <jerp> :) thanks for bearing with me
[12:26] <Jucato> drarem: um.. tried using Ark?
[12:26] <drarem> no
[12:27] <Jucato> Ark is like the Winzip/WinRAR of KDE
[12:27] <drarem> ack.. which format to use
[12:27] <drarem> bz2? tar?
[12:27] <freewill> what must install for nfs to work?
[12:27] <alexicon> tar cvf file.tar file
[12:28] <Jucato> your choice drarem. as long as you have the proper utility installed, you can do anything, even .rar :)
[12:28] <alexicon> tar and gz is the usual combo drarem
[12:28] <Jucato> btw, .tar is just a tarball archive, .tar.gz is a Gzip'd tarball
[12:28] <alexicon> bz and gz for compression
[12:29] <Jucato> afaik, bz2 doesn't tar the files anymore
[12:29] <alexicon> hrmmm --bzip now?
[12:29] <freewill> what package must install for nfs to work?
[12:29] <alexicon> bzip2
[12:29] <alexicon> hrm
[12:29] <Jucato> !nfs | freewill
[12:29] <ubotu> freewill: nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[12:29] <Jucato> gotta go :)
[12:30] <rolando> how can i force apt-get to install a package?
[12:30] <drarem> thanks, it works good
[12:30] <alexicon> apt-get -f install
[12:30] <alexicon> rolando ^
[12:31] <rolando> alexicon: cant do that
[12:31] <Kannix> Jucato, alexicon: Soo, downloading kubuntu-desktop stuff right now. 1/2 GB.
[12:31] <alexicon> ^_^
[12:32] <pablo__> hola que tal
[12:32] <rolando> its ok, nevermind magically my problem autosolved
[12:32] <alexicon> heh
[12:33] <rolando> :P
[12:33] <rolando> laterz
[12:33] <alexicon> ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[12:33] <alexicon> adept is gone
[12:33] <alexicon> after sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:34] <alexicon> wtf
[12:35] <alexicon> ummm
[12:35] <alexicon> adept is gone
[12:40] <B-Minus> alexicon: im doing the ruby tutorial, is there some ruby editor or something or do we have to put it all in nano
[12:40] <B-Minus> i would like auto completion etc
[12:40] <B-Minus> and help etc
[12:40] <alexicon> theres a kdevelop ruby editor!
[12:40] <alexicon> :D
[12:40] <B-Minus> lol
[12:40] <B-Minus> you are too enthousiastic about this
[12:41] <alexicon> :DDD
[12:41] <wildchild> !samba
[12:41] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[12:46] <nino> does anyone know a good email server for linux
[12:46] <alexicon> sendmail?
[12:47] <alexicon> oh yeah once upon a time i was fixing my mouse
[12:47] <nino> email server where windows clients can connect to to dowload their email!
[12:50] <tdn> Is there an IRC channel for questions about JuK? Or is this channel the place to get JuK specific help?
[01:00] <B-Minus> alexicon:  have you made anything in ruby !!!
[01:08] <freewill> !ftp|freewill
[01:08] <ubotu> freewill: FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[01:09] <freewill> what is a nice ftp server? perveredly one with gui?
[01:09] <freewill> vsftpd is complex i think,,,
[01:19] <fumbalah> Hi, Does anyone else in here have a dell laptop they are running kubuntu on?
[01:21] <kokoko1> hi, to run GTK application what should i have to install?
[01:22] <Jucato> kokoko1: just install the app, and everything else that it needs will be installed by it (presuming you use apt-get, Adept or Synaptic to install)
[01:22] <kokoko1> Jucato, okay see this error
[01:22] <kokoko1> root@thrall-laptop:~# gimp-2.2
[01:22] <kokoko1> GIMP could not initialize the graphical user interface.
[01:22] <kokoko1> Make sure a proper setup for your display environment exists.
[01:22] <Jucato> kokoko1: try running it as a regular user
[01:25] <kokoko1> Jucato, thanks :)
[01:25] <kokoko1> Jucato, do you know how to minimaze app. using keyboard shortcut?
[01:26] <Jucato> kokoko1: a single app, or all apps? Ctrl+Alt+D = Show Desktop
[01:26] <kokoko1> single
[01:26] <Jucato> ah.. hm.. tricky...
[01:26] <Jucato> (in short, I don't know...)
[01:27] <kokoko1> Show desktop is fine also :)
[01:27] <kokoko1> thanks
[01:28] <leandro> Helo!
[01:30] <Alter-Ego> i need to wipe and combine some partitions and expand some others, what command line utility does this for me?
[01:30] <MuFFin_> hey all
[01:33] <lars__> hi
[01:34] <lars__> anyone here?
[01:34] <Jucato> no. just us ghosts :)
[01:34] <lars__> :-)
[01:34] <MuFFin_> yep
[01:35] <MuFFin_> Got a Problem with AmaroK: The program only plays oggs but no mp3s :-(
[01:35] <Jucato> that's natural. you have to install codecs for mp3
[01:36] <Jucato> (and for other proprietary formats)
[01:36] <Jucato> !mp3 MuFFin_
[01:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mp3 MuFFin_ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:36] <MuFFin_> yes but what codec? I installed some already
[01:36] <Jucato> !mp3 | MuFFin_
[01:36] <ubotu> MuFFin_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:36] <lars__> sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[01:36] <Jucato> MuFFin_: "libxine-extracodecs" from multiverse
[01:37] <MuFFin_> ah ok thanks
[01:38] <leandro> HELO ANDRIS!!
[01:39] <leandro> ARE YOU BRAZILIAN?
[01:40] <orion> hi
[01:40] <orion> I use gnome, and trying to build a kde-based app, Klear, it requires kde headers.. so which package I should choose to intsall from synaptic
[01:41] <orion> any ideas ?
[01:41] <Jucato> orion: kde-devel
[01:41] <orion> Make sure you have qt, libxine and kde headers installed.
[01:41] <orion> ok
[01:42] <orion> wow
[01:43] <orion> alot of things will be installed
[01:43] <orion> how much size it makes any ideas ?
[01:43] <cpk1> umm how would I use sed to remove (r) from a result
[01:43] <orion> anyway thanks
[01:44] <Jucato> orion: apt-get will tell you how much (or Adept)
[01:44] <cpk1> i have "cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'model name' | sed -e 's/.*: //' | tail --lines=1"but want to take (r) out of the result as well
[01:44] <orion> it wont be installed
[01:44] <orion> it refused
[01:45] <orion> hmm
[01:45] <Jucato> why?
[01:45] <orion> any idea if a binary package for this dvb app Klear available ?
[01:45] <JuJuBee> Can someone help me figure out why my screensavers are not working anymore?
[01:45] <orion> I tried to find one for kubuntu, debian.. but couldnt find one
[01:46] <Jucato> JuJuBee: did you disable power saving in the Monitor & Display settigns?
[01:46] <Jucato> er.. settings...
[01:46] <JuJuBee> Not that I recall, I will check
[01:47] <Jucato> JuJuBee: if you did, I think it's a bug I heard somewhere... (forget where, or where the bug report is)
[01:47] <JuJuBee> It is not disabled, set to 30 minutes...
[01:47] <Jucato> hm...
[01:49] <JuJuBee> When I go to the screen saver settings and click on a screensaver, it wont show in the preview window, nor will it appear when I hit test.
[01:49] <Alter-Ego> !format
[01:49] <ubotu> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[01:52] <SHRIKEE> hi there, is anyone familiar with quanta?
[02:02] <tdn> How is the correct way to install Kubuntu if I only have an Ubuntu 6.10 CD?
[02:02] <tdn> Can I boot on the Ubuntu CD and to an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop and then click the Install icon?
[02:03] <Jucato> tdn: no
[02:03] <tdn> Or will I have to install Ubuntu first and then do an apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[02:03] <tdn> I would like to *not* install all that gnome stuff that I am not using.
[02:03] <Jucato> yes you have to install Ubuntu first. but if you could, download the Kubuntu CD instead
[02:03] <tdn> Jucato, yeah, I know. But I do not have any blank discs.
[02:04] <dude_> HI GUYS
[02:04] <dude_> jucato !
[02:04] <Jucato> tdn: you have the Ubuntu 6.10 Desktop CD or the Alternate Install CD?
[02:04] <Jucato> hi dude_
[02:04] <dude_> jucato: im running beryl :)
[02:04] <dude_> abattoir !
[02:04] <tdn> Jucato, I have the Ubuntu 6.10 LTS Desktop CD.
[02:04] <Jucato> dude_: finally took the plunge, eh? how is it?
[02:04] <Jucato> tdn: ah... :(
[02:04] <tdn> Jucato, the one in the red cardboard cover.
[02:04] <dude_> abattoir: beryl is up and running
[02:05] <dude_> jucato: cool but limited
[02:06] <MuFFin_> Ehm sorry, but sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs doesnt work though I uncommented the multiverse lines in sources.list
[02:07] <Jucato> MuFFin_: you uncommented the wrong line. actually, you need to add "multiverse"
[02:07] <Jucato> !multiverse | MuFFin_
[02:07] <dude_> jucato: what is the command to killa an app, my kaffeine is not working again
[02:07] <ubotu> MuFFin_: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:07] <Jucato> dude_: hm... killall <appname> ?
[02:07] <Tm_T> dude_: "killall kaffeine"
[02:07] <MuFFin_> !multiverse
[02:07] <dude_> tnx
[02:07] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:07] <Tm_T> Jucato: Hrrr, young and fast. :(
[02:07] <Jucato> or Ctrl+Alt+Esc...
[02:08] <Jucato> Tm_T: the advantage of youth :P
[02:08] <Jucato> and of almost a years worth of typing classes :P
[02:08] <Tm_T> I did forgot that.
[02:09] <MuFFin_> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[02:09] <MuFFin_> Abhngigkeitsbaum wird aufgebaut... Fertig
[02:09] <MuFFin_> Paket libxine-extracodecs ist nicht verfgbar, wird aber von einem anderen
[02:09] <MuFFin_> Paket referenziert. Das kann heien, dass das Paket fehlt, dass es veraltet
[02:09] <MuFFin_> ist oder nur aus einer anderen Quelle verfgbar ist.
[02:09] <MuFFin_> E: Paket libxine-extracodecs hat keinen Installationskandidaten
[02:09] <Jucato> !pastebin | MuFFin_
[02:09] <ubotu> MuFFin_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:09] <hazard> *testing x2x*
[02:09] <hazard> horay, it seems to be working!
[02:10] <Jucato> MuFFin_: you need to add "multiverse" to the line that looks something like "deb http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe" (if you're on edgy)
[02:11] <WaTt92> There's somebody can help me?
[02:11] <WaTt92> Can anybody help me?
[02:11] <Jucato> !ask
[02:11] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[02:12] <WaTt92> ok
[02:12] <WaTt92> KUbuntu is avable in Italian?
[02:12] <Jucato> !it
[02:12] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:12] <WaTt92> Thanks
[02:14] <carlos> hola
[02:14] <kokoko1> can i ask tbird question here (i'm running it on kubuntu
[02:14] <kokoko1> that why the hell time shown by tbird doesn't follow system time style ?
[02:16] <zerozero> i'm trying to install amarok on kubuntu (dapper) and I'm getting an error that says "amarok: Depends: libifp4 but it is not installable"
[02:17] <zerozero> what should I do?
[02:17] <Jucato> zerozero: did you add anything to your sources.list?
[02:17] <zerozero> yes
[02:18] <Jucato> zerozero: what did you add?
[02:18] <zerozero> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main
[02:20] <Jucato> zerozero: did you enable dapper-backports as instructed?
[02:20] <zerozero> no, i didn'
[02:20] <zerozero> t
[02:21] <zerozero> i didn't see that in the instruction script from their site
[02:21] <Jucato> well, the instructions for Amarok 1.4.3 (the latest in Dapper) says: "Important:  you need to enable dapper-backports to be able to install Amarok 1.4.3."
[02:22] <zerozero> where did you see that?
[02:22] <zerozero> i'm on their istallationhow too page
[02:22] <Jucato> the Kubuntu.org page
[02:22] <zerozero> oooh
[02:22] <Jucato> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.3.php
[02:23] <visik7> about amarok
[02:23] <visik7> 1.4.4 has a bug with lyrics
[02:27] <zerozero> i'm just hunting for a good mp3 player
[02:27] <zerozero> it doesn't have to be amarok
[02:27] <Jucato> zerozero: don't worry. if there really is a bug with 1.4.4, it's not available in Dapper :P
[02:28] <zerozero> i added that back port, ran update and I get the same error
[02:28] <Jucato> zerozero: can you pastebin your sources.list?
[02:28] <Jucato> !pastebin | zerozero
[02:28] <ubotu> zerozero: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:30] <SHRIKEE> is there a way to have the 6th and 7th button on a mouse behave the same way in konqueror as they do in firefox? (forward and back) ?
[02:33] <JorixB> artsd keeps crashing, I updated several things and now most sound doesn't work, including amarok
[02:33] <JorixB> downgrading artsd didn't seem to have any effect
[02:36] <LockUp> I need a program to export a document to PDF/X-1a format. Where can I found it?
[02:36] <Jucato> LockUp: KWord exports to PDF. Or perhaps most apps has a "Print to PDF" feature in the Print options
[02:37] <fdoving> openoffice exports to pdf too.
[02:37] <Jucato> Print to file (PDF)
[02:37] <fdoving> afaik only kde programs can use the kdeprint pdf pseudo printer.
[02:37] <Jucato> fdoving: ah really. never used it (yet)...
[02:37] <fdoving> i use the openoffice export feature ~ once a month. :)
[02:37] <LockUp> PDF/X1a also?
[02:38] <fdoving> what is X1A ?
[02:38] <fdoving> (i'm more into .txt and .conf)
[02:38] <LockUp> It's a PDF version for production.
[02:38] <fdoving> no idea.
[02:39] <LockUp> Scribus supports exporting to PDF/X-3 but probably not to PDF/X-1a
[02:40] <JorixB> what package could be the cause of artsd crashing all the time if I have kde sound on. No kde app sound works including amarok
[02:40] <fdoving> my openoffice exports to:  PDF document, version 1.4
[02:41] <fdoving> that's what 'file some.pdf' says.
[02:41] <SHRIKEE> is there a way to have the 6th and 7th button on a mouse behave the same way in konqueror as they do in firefox? (forward and back) ?
[02:42] <Th3_Cr0up13R> helooooooooo
[02:44] <pansy> hi folks
[02:45] <pansy> does anybody know a ncurses based programm to specify which scripts are run in which run-level?
[02:45] <Th3_Cr0up13R> u know how on your terminal it says username@username/folder where you are>
[02:46] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i wanna change that to just the folder where you are> i know there is something to do with PS1 but i dont remember exactly
[02:46] <Th3_Cr0up13R> can anyone remind me a little
[02:46] <Th3_Cr0up13R> ?
[02:46] <Allen> :D
[02:49] <igor> what's the program...similar as Late in Kubuntu...but to Ubuntu...
[02:49] <Jucato> Late?
[02:49] <igor> or any program to program in C...C++
[02:49] <igor> sorry
[02:49] <igor> Kate
[02:49] <igor> :T
[02:49] <Jucato> Ubuntu/GNOME = gedit
[02:49] <igor> ...thanks...
[02:49] <Jucato> O_o
[02:50] <Th3_Cr0up13R> any1 remembers how to change that?
[02:50] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: you could try asking in #bash?
[02:51] <h3sp4wn> Th3_Cr0up13R: PROMPT="[%n@%m% ]  (%c%)%# " (for zsh)
[02:52] <Jucato> or... you could wait for h3sp4wn to whip up some obscure black magic command :)
[02:52] <Th3_Cr0up13R> h3sp4wn: cool, how would you search for it in google
[02:52] <Th3_Cr0up13R> bash prompt change
[02:52] <Th3_Cr0up13R> or something like that?
[02:53] <h3sp4wn> Th3_Cr0up13R: I would look in man bash
[02:53] <h3sp4wn> Th3_Cr0up13R: /PS1 (to search for the right part)
[02:53] <Th3_Cr0up13R> sounds good
[02:54] <h3sp4wn> Th3_Cr0up13R: Then that says see PROMPTING (so I would type /PROMPTING
[02:54] <Th3_Cr0up13R> thanx h3sp4wn, ill try reading that
[02:57] <felixjet> ey, i was upgrading to edgy, i did dist-upgrade and i left it there cause it was 1.3GB download. now i back and i have this on console:
[02:57] <felixjet> Failed to fetch http://es.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/libg/libgpg-error/libgpg-error-dev_1.2-1_i386.deb  Connection timed out [IP: 195.248.90.38 80] 
[02:57] <felixjet> E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
[02:59] <gnomefreak> felixjet: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:00] <h3sp4wn> Th3_Cr0up13R: the \W is the one you want
[03:00] <h3sp4wn> Th3_Cr0up13R: (the current one probably uses \w
[03:00] <Th3_Cr0up13R> yep i just saw it
[03:01] <Th3_Cr0up13R> got a list with lots of them and how to make it permanent
[03:01] <Th3_Cr0up13R> dont wana do this al the time
[03:01] <gigg865> How would I rebuild the APT Database for the Adept Updater? I managed to destroy mine, and I get an error staiting that the APT Database could not be opened! This may be caused by an incorrect APT configuration or some similar problem. I tried running apt-setup and apt-get update, but those just gave me errors.
[03:01] <h3sp4wn> make sure you use .bashrc not .profile
[03:02] <Jucato> !adept fix crash | gigg865
[03:02] <ubotu> adept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[03:02] <Alter-Ego> my home partition is corrupted, and i need to relabel ? /home from /home to something else and relabel another partition in another drive as /home so ubuntu will boot
[03:03] <abattoir> !adept crash fix | gigg865
[03:03] <ubotu> gigg865: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'
[03:03] <abattoir> ;)
[03:03] <h3sp4wn> Alter-Ego: Why ?
[03:03] <h3sp4wn> Alter-Ego: Have you tried using fsck on the corrupted partition
[03:03] <Kannix> Hi all
[03:03] <Alter-Ego> h3sp4wn: yes
[03:04] <h3sp4wn> Alter-Ego: Hardware fault ?
[03:04] <Alter-Ego> i can mount the partition, i can see it, i can copy files, but it is in read only mode
[03:04] <Alter-Ego> h3sp4wn: i
[03:04] <Alter-Ego> i'm not sure, because i can access other partitions on the same drive
[03:05] <Alter-Ego> i do know the os cannot read superblocks from that partition
[03:05] <gigg865> I am sure I actually screwed something up though. I un-commented some comments, and did not realize I did that. I am new to this though, and I do not remember where I made those changes.
[03:05] <Kannix> I read somewhere, you could enable mous gestures for Konqueror in the "accessability -- configure hotkey" settings. However, I have no clue which setting actually enables mouse gestures. All I find are things like "Keyboard input (simple)" and "Generic".
[03:06] <JorixB> artsd causes segfault
[03:06] <JorixB> and keeps crashing if I turn on kde sound
[03:06] <Kannix> All seems to be just keyboard related, no mouse gestures.
[03:06] <h3sp4wn> Alter-Ego: fsck should be able to fix that
[03:06] <gigg865> I made the changes in the adept package manager user interface, but I forget where I made those changes.
[03:06] <h3sp4wn> Alter-Ego: If you can read files from it should be ok
[03:06] <Alter-Ego> h3sp4wn: k, i can try again
[03:07] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i found the file but its got too many SP1s
[03:07] <h3sp4wn> Alter-Ego: umount it first and do it from recovery mode
[03:07] <gigg865> I almost thing I would nead to rebuild all the parts of the adept manager , since I am not sure exactly what I hosed up :(
[03:07] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i found the one that says change colour and all this lot
[03:07] <Th3_Cr0up13R> do i delete all the other stuff or just alter some of it?
[03:08] <gigg865> I finally got several other things working, so I would hate to have to re-install everything
[03:09] <Alter-Ego> h3sp4wn: device I/O error on device /dev/hdb3
[03:09] <Th3_Cr0up13R> PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\] \u@\h\[\033\] :\[\033[01;34m\] \w\[\033\] \$ '
[03:09] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i got this
[03:09] <Th3_Cr0up13R> which part do i change
[03:09] <Th3_Cr0up13R> ?
[03:09] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i cannot make it out
[03:10] <h3sp4wn> I can't either (not sure whether the unicode is messed up or not for me here)
[03:10] <Th3_Cr0up13R> do i just change the little w to capital
[03:10] <h3sp4wn> that should work
[03:10] <syrus> help! kwallet is not saving the passwords to the .kwl file! After a restart all passwords are lost.... what can i do?
[03:11] <Alter-Ego> delete kwallet
[03:11] <Th3_Cr0up13R> Alter-Ego:  how to ?
[03:11] <syrus> :-(
[03:11] <Alter-Ego> syrus: actually don't mind me
[03:11] <Bulwinkle> Howdy all...  I'm experiencing some VERY slow graphic performance on one of my PCs running 6.10...  Should I be installing the graphics driver from the Nvidia site or the nvidia package from apt-get?
[03:11] <syrus> Alter-Ego: ???
[03:11] <Alter-Ego> i would like to dump kwallett myself
[03:11] <Th3_Cr0up13R> h3sp4wn:  that didnt work
[03:12] <h3sp4wn> That looks a right mess
[03:12] <BluesKaj> Howdy All! :)
[03:12] <syrus> ok... has anyone an idea why kwallet isn't saving the passwords?
[03:12] <Th3_Cr0up13R> tell me about it
[03:13] <h3sp4wn> PS1="\u@\h (\W) $"
[03:13] <ludus> hello i ned help
[03:14] <ludus> i want a kubuntu 6.06
[03:14] <h3sp4wn> send for it from shipit or download it
[03:14] <ludus> boa tarde alguem que me possa ajudar tenho o kubuntu 6.06 e ao executar um exe no wine ocorre um erro "external exception 8000101""
[03:15] <Hawkwind> ludus: Try asking in English please :)
[03:15] <ludus> ok
[03:16] <ludus> hello i want a kubuntu 6.06 and when i execute exe in wine occurs the next error "external exception"
[03:16] <h3sp4wn> Th3_Cr0up13R: PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[01;32m\] \u@\h\[\033\] :\[\033[01;34m\] \W\[\033\] \$ '
[03:16] <h3sp4wn> Th3_Cr0up13R: (just that works fine here) green prompt blue writing
[03:17] <jobless_> hey i am having problems installing kubuntu on a dell xps 700
[03:17] <jobless_> the installation just freezes!
[03:18] <abattoir> venkat_ : installing again?
[03:18] <abattoir> jobless_: installing again?
[03:18] <jobless_> yeah
[03:18] <jobless_> installing on my desktop ..abattoir
[03:18] <abattoir> jobless_: at which stage?
[03:18] <jobless_> i just hit start or install
[03:18] <Th3_Cr0up13R> h3sp4wn: i got black font green writting
[03:18] <ludus> hello i want a kubuntu 6.06 and when i execute exe in wine occurs the next error "external exception" somebody help-me
[03:18] <jobless_> i get nothing but a blinking cursor of it says loading the kernel
[03:19] <jobless_> i get nothing but a blinking cursor of it says loading the kernel abattoir
[03:19] <abattoir> jobless_: hmm... try the safe mode thing
[03:19] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i changed the w to W and it still does nothing
[03:19] <h3sp4wn> Th3_Cr0up13R: Its working fine here
[03:19] <jobless_> abattoir: no use!:(
[03:19] <abattoir> jobless_: was the cd burnt properly?
[03:19] <jobless_> i tried with linux acpi=off too .. abattoir
[03:19] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hehe what if i delete all the other debian chroot and all this
[03:20] <jobless_> yes .. the same one i used to install on my laptop  abattoir
[03:20] <abattoir> jobless_: hmm... someone had a similar problem earlier... turned out they need to upgrade bios firmware
[03:20] <ludus> i want execute exe making by Delphi6
[03:20] <jobless_> yes i got this pnp bios error and tried even with pnpbios=off too ..!! abattoir
[03:20] <jobless_> the installation freezes even then! abattoir
[03:21] <abattoir> jobless_: is there such an option? pnpbios=off ?
[03:21] <jobless_> yes i saw it on the net somewhere ..! abattoir
[03:21] <Kannix> Ok, found out why mouse gestures where not working. They are disabled globally in the setup and you have to change that, no matter how many gestures you just defined. I wish there was a warning like "You just recorded a mouse gesture. Be sure to enable mouse gestures, so you can use it."
[03:22] <jobless_> abattoir: i tried if there were any firmware upgrades on the dell site .. but no use ..!
[03:23] <abattoir> jobless_: hmm.. let me search dell xps 700 huh?
[03:23] <jobless_> dell xps/dimension 700 abattoir
[03:23] <jobless_> abattoir: has it got to do with some hardware problem?
[03:24] <abattoir> jobless_: don't think so... let me check
[03:24] <jobless_> i can give you the list of hardware if you want .. abattoir
[03:24] <jobless_> abattoir: ok
[03:24] <syrus> help! kwallet is not saving the passwords to the .kwl file! After a restart all passwords are lost.... what can i do?
[03:24] <Hawkwind> syrus: Must be running Edgy I'd assume as it's a known issue from what I hear
[03:25] <tdn> Kdm starts up at 2048x1536 but my monitor can only handle 1600x1200@85Hz. How do I make it use 1600x1200@85Hz in stead of 2048x1536@60Hz as it does now? Something with /etc/X11/xorg.conf? There are several lines in xorg.conf with "2048x1536" in them.
[03:26] <syrus> Hawkwind: i use edgy.... do you knwo what i can do to fix that?
[03:27] <Hawkwind> syrus: Not sure if there is a fix.  I don't run Edgy so I'm not sure to be honest. I've just heard many state the same problem
[03:27] <ludus> hello i want a kubuntu 6.06 and when i execute exe in wine occurs the next error "external exception" somebody help-me
[03:28] <gigg865> can anyone help me with re-installing the adept package manager?
[03:28] <cox37777> does anyone know a short cut other than print screen for a screen dump as that button doesnt work on here
[03:28] <Ash-Fox> tdn, [k]  -> [system settings]  -> [monitor & display]  -> [administrator mode]  -> [hardware]  -> [configure]  for monitor 1 -> choose correct image format and manually choose correct screen resolution.
[03:29] <tdn> Ash-Fox, no. That does not change kdm's resolution. This only affects the resolution in kde (when the user is logged in).
[03:29] <Th3_Cr0up13R> when i change my .bashrc file it after closing it it changes back to normal
[03:29] <Ash-Fox> tdn, did you restart X?
[03:29] <Th3_Cr0up13R> even with root pribileges
[03:30] <tdn> Ash-Fox, I did not do what you suggested because this is *not* the way to do it. I know.
[03:30] <tdn> Ash-Fox, it will not work. Also I would like to do this from the console if possible.
[03:30] <jobless_> abattoir: any luck?
[03:30] <tdn> Ash-Fox, There must be a configuration file that needs to be edited.
[03:31] <cox37777> screen print anyone?
[03:31] <abattoir> jobless_: not really
[03:31] <Ash-Fox> tdn, if it's just kdm, I'm assuming it could possibly be a theme issue
[03:31] <jobless_> abattoir: :( :)
[03:32] <Ash-Fox> tdn, as for setting up X from the console, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:32] <tdn> Ash-Fox, well... It is not, ok? It is the screen resolution that is wrong. I have experienced this problem before and I forgot how to fix it. I am guessing that I need to edit xorg.conf.
[03:33] <felixjet> damn, why kubuntu make always all hard...
[03:33] <felixjet> i was upgrading to edgy, i did dist-upgrade and now i get this
[03:33] <moi1392> hello, does someone know if liblazy is available or intend to be packaged for ubuntu ?
[03:33] <felixjet> Processing was halted because there were too many errors.
[03:33] <felixjet> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[03:33] <syrus> Hawkwind: i can't find anything about this problem with google... do you have an idea what i can do or who i can ask?
[03:33] <felixjet> what i do?
[03:33] <abattoir> jobless_: d'oh it was your forum post that i was stumbling across
[03:34] <Ash-Fox> tdn, I honestly don't have any monitors that have crazy resolutions like you do, so I'm not sure if a simple x reconfiguration is possible, since it may or may not display the correct resolutions.
[03:34] <Hawkwind> syrus: Google for the Kubuntu-users mailing list archives.  I think it's been mentioned there IIRC
[03:34] <moi1392> felixjet: try "sudo apt-get -f install" and aste the errors
[03:34] <jobless_> abattoir: was there a reply?!
[03:34] <abattoir> jobless_: check it yourself :P
[03:34] <abattoir> jobless_: try asking at #ubuntu , someone there might know
[03:35] <Bulwinkle> Can anyone help me with an Nvidia card not running GL extensions on 6.10
[03:36] <jobless_> abattoir: no reply :( ok will post the same thing on ubuntu ..!
[03:36] <dennister> g' morning
[03:37] <dennister> abattoir: :) i'm very glad to see u. as usual, i have a serious problem i can't find any fixes for in my readings/searches
[03:37] <MRMorefield-ft> beryl or compiz?
[03:37] <MRMorefield-ft> which one shud i choose?
[03:38] <freewill> !ati|freewill
[03:38] <ubotu> freewill: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:38] <Hawkwind> MRMorefield-ft: Most will probably suggest beryl currently
[03:38] <Hawkwind> MRMorefield-ft: However, linux is all about choice, so it's up to you
[03:39] <syrus> Hawkwind: hm, can't find such a problem on the mailinglist, too..... don't you have an idea what kind of problem it could be?
[03:39] <dennister> in system serrings, my user management module can't be loaded...so i'm having trouble giving mythtv r/w permissions to a directory
[03:39] <Hawkwind> syrus: I don't run Edgy as I stated.  So I don't know, just know I've read about it on the ML from time to time
[03:39] <Hawkwind> dennister: Give it perms from the CLI, much easier
[03:40] <dennister> k...how?
[03:40] <dennister> i've already tried chowning it, doesn't work
[03:41] <jobless_> hey abattoir: one more problem .. i am connecting to two wireless networks .. one at home and one at school ..but should load all the configuration settings everytime manually for each network?
[03:41] <Hawkwind> dennister: sudo chmod 700 /directory ?
[03:41] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: run - dpkg -C
[03:41] <Hawkwind> dennister: chown is ownership, chmod is perms
[03:42] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: fix or remove the broken packages (if you have used any unofficial repos your chances of any easy clean upgrade are vastly reduced)
[03:42] <ludus> hello i want a kubuntu 6.06 and when i execute exe in wine occurs the next error "external exception" somebody help-me
[03:42] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: You can set up 2 networks in wpasupplicant.conf (include it from /etc/network/interfaces) using the /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz
[03:42] <Hawkwind> ludus: Have you tried asking in #WineHQ since it's a wine question you have ?
[03:43] <dennister> ahhh...it seems to be working :)
[03:44] <jobless_> h3sp4wn : hey can you point out to some resource explaining that or could you explain that to me? i did not understand that properly!
[03:44] <oslo> in .kde/autostart how make an apps run after 20 sec for example ?
[03:44] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: Mode #2: Roaming Mode (in the above file explains it all)
[03:44] <dennister> Hawkwind: spoke too soon. not working, just a verbose backtrace
[03:45] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: zcat /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.modes.gz | less
[03:45] <jobless_> h3sp4wn : in the readme?!
[03:45] <Hawkwind> dennister: What command did you do exactly ?
[03:45] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: where else would it be ?
[03:45] <jobless_> h3sp4wn : ok
[03:46] <dennister> sudo chmod 700 /media/MythVid/recordings
[03:46] <dennister> then i tried to start mythbackend with 'mythbackend -d'
[03:47] <BluesKaj> MPlayer won't load as WMP substitute like it's supposed to
[03:47] <h3sp4wn> dennister: Why not ask in #mythtv-users ?
[03:47] <dennister> that startup script is still telling me that it can't start because mythtv (the user) doesn't have access/permissions to that directory
[03:48] <saki> mythtv hates my soul
[03:48] <dennister> unfortunately, i'm not having much luck with that channel
[03:48] <Hawkwind> dennister: Maybe it needs different user perms, which might require chown ?
[03:48] <dennister> like i said, i tried chowning that directory. nada
[03:48] <ashutosh> hi pople
[03:48] <ashutosh> peoplw
[03:49] <dennister> since both chowning and chmod are about users and permissions, and the user management itself doesn't work, even cli doesn't work
[03:49] <dennister> not with user managemnt, anyway
[03:49] <jobless_> h3sp4wn : found it ..! reading through it .. does the docs directory contain all the docs for most of the things?
[03:50] <jobless_> !zcat
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about zcat - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <Hawkwind> dennister: Did you do something similar to: chown -R youruser:youruser /directory ?  Replace *youruser* with the login name on your system
[03:51] <ashutosh> #join ltsp
[03:51] <Digital_Pioneer> Hi. I need a little help getting my printing going.
[03:51] <dennister> i even installed nfs, to try to unlock that directory, but when i try to share it, the user managment part of the sharing doesn't work either
[03:52] <Digital_Pioneer> I've installed the printer (HP DeskJet 3845) and it says it's working, but whenever I print something, it just says "Processing..." forever.
[03:52] <dennister> that directory is good and locked...even changing options in fstab doesn't work
[03:52] <dennister> not yet...will try now
[03:56] <MRMorefield-ft> i have a question
[03:56] <MRMorefield-ft> A suggested install of compiz would include the following packages:
[03:56] <MRMorefield-ft> compiz
[03:56] <MRMorefield-ft> compiz-gnome
[03:57] <MRMorefield-ft> this site is telling about gnome
[03:57] <MRMorefield-ft> what can i install for kde
[03:57] <dennister> aha! it worked!
[03:57] <MRMorefield-ft> it worked
[03:58] <BlackNine> Hello everyone!
[03:58] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: Pretty much
[03:58] <dennister> no error message at backend startup about mythtv not have access to the directory, and now the frontend is restored to working/not working the way it normally does
[03:58] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: zcat just lets you view a .gz file without having to gunzip it first
[03:58] <BlackNine> I am having trouble installing kubuntu, anyone wanna help?
[03:58] <dennister> ty Hawkwind !!!
[03:59] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: actually there is even zless to look at it directly
[03:59] <Hawkwind> dennister: You're welcome
[03:59] <visik7> edgy doesn't show anyomore unmounted usb keys on the desktop if I don't click mount when I plug it in why ?
[04:00] <dennister> it was really stumping me, as i'd tried so many things...kinda illogical to have an error message about one system user not having access, and the fix is to give another user access
[04:00] <giacomo_> salve
[04:00] <BlackNine> Can anyone help me with installing kubuntu, I normally can do this easly but it gives a wierd error.
[04:00] <MRMorefield-ft> what is the error
[04:00] <BlackNine> http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4782/snapshot1dm4.png
[04:00] <BlackNine> screen shot of it
[04:01] <MRMorefield-ft> do you have windows on your computer?
[04:01] <BlackNine> yeah
[04:01] <Mo-Z> When upgrading from 6.06 to 6.10.... Do i have to readept java, codecs atc. all over again?
[04:01] <MRMorefield-ft> and is it taking the whole partition?
[04:01] <BlackNine> yeah
[04:02] <MRMorefield-ft> and you don' t want windows anymore?
[04:02] <MRMorefield-ft> or you want to keep windows?
[04:02] <BlackNine> i do cause all my stuff is on there
[04:02] <MRMorefield-ft> hmm
[04:02] <MRMorefield-ft> this will be dificult
[04:02] <dennister> i'm going to have to try and understand nfs locking; it's new to me cause i hadn't used it b4...had stayed away from it in favour of samba cause of other xp box...but mythtv uses nfs locking without nfs even being installed on the system
[04:02] <MRMorefield-ft> you have to make a second partition
[04:02] <MRMorefield-ft> but there is a chance it could go wrong
[04:02] <BlackNine> thats what i fear
[04:03] <MRMorefield-ft> is there a way to backup everything?
[04:03] <MRMorefield-ft> on another computer
[04:03] <BlackNine> yeah
[04:03] <MRMorefield-ft> if you do that it will be easier
[04:04] <MRMorefield-ft> you can also try making a second partition with the install program
[04:04] <BlackNine> I was reading http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=4#fdisk and it seems simple. But I havent backed up my stuff yet so Im not gonna try it yet
[04:04] <MRMorefield-ft> that is smart
[04:04] <MRMorefield-ft> cause there is a chance it goes wrong
[04:04] <neliger> hi all
[04:05] <dennister> now to get an actual livetv picture instead of a black screen...i know my card and ivtv drivers work cause i can get live tv by tuning to one channel with ivtv-tune, and then using mplayer from cli
[04:05] <MRMorefield-ft> anyone installed compiz on kde?
[04:06] <neliger> does anyone know the solutions of this problem : "Xlib: Maximum number of clients reached" ? It will be very nice, Google is not my friend today...
[04:06] <Hawkwind> !compiz | MRMorefield-ft
[04:06] <ubotu> MRMorefield-ft: Compiz (compositing (window) manager) and XGL (Xserver architecture layered on top of OpenGL) howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager XGL+compiz help in #ubuntu-xgl  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[04:06] <dennister> but for now i gtg...my food processor died in the middle of making the crust for my cheescake tart...and i'm due at the office in an hour
[04:07] <dennister> later ppls
[04:07] <BlackNine> I do not know why linux hates me today, cause I have installed linux 7-12 times on this computer
[04:07] <dennister> :) when all else fails, #kubuntu :)
[04:07] <dennister> and the wonderful people here :)
[04:07] <neliger> No-one know my problem here ? damned
[04:08] <student> BlackNine: Always the same error?
[04:08] <h3sp4wn> BlackNine: Sounds like alot of times
[04:08] <BlackNine> yeah
[04:09] <jobless_> h3sp4wn : this looks like a lot for me to understand .. maybe i will spend the whole day figuring this out .. sounds fun..:)
[04:10] <BlackNine> im taking a risk with my computer
[04:10] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: It depends - if your school/work network uses one of the enterprise schemes it becomes alot more complicated
[04:10] <felixjet> how to stop ACPI module?
[04:10] <neliger> sorry, no-one can help me resolving an xserver error N
[04:10] <neliger> ?
[04:11] <neliger> felixjet: /etc/init.d/acpid stop ?
[04:11] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: If you are just using wpa psk or wpa2 psk its pretty easy if you are using eap=TLS and certificates its alot more complicated
[04:11] <felixjet> ya, thanks
[04:12] <felixjet> omg, still dont works
[04:12] <felixjet>  * Loading ACPI modules...                                               [ ok ] 
[04:12] <felixjet>  * Starting ACPI services...                                                    acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy
[04:12] <felixjet> invoke-rc.d: initscript acpid, action "start" failed.
[04:12] <BlackNine> what does 37GB equal in MBs?
[04:12] <jobless_> h3sp4wn : hey can i use wpa!! i thought only wep was supported!
[04:12] <jobless_> h3sp4wn : i changed my home network to wep thinking so ..!
[04:13] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: You can use wpa (its alot easier to use anyway)
[04:13] <neliger> hum... I will be back an other time. I hope an xserver's Guru will come...
[04:14] <jobless_> but my wireless network was not found in the wireless lan manageer in the internet menu when it had wpa! i changed it to wep and then i could find it!
[04:14] <jobless_> but my wireless network was not found in the wireless lan manageer in the internet menu when it had wpa! i changed it to wep and then i could find it! h3sp4wn
[04:14] <felixjet> !paste
[04:14] <h3sp4wn> neliger: try #xorg
[04:14] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:14] <BlackNine> Hmmmm, quick question, with fdisk, M = Megabytes?
[04:15] <felixjet> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/4ODgmM68.html
[04:15] <felixjet> please help with this
[04:17] <fdoving> felixjet: in konsole (kmenu -> system -> konsole) run 'sudo apt-get --purge remove acpid;sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[04:18] <felixjet> thanks fdoving
[04:18] <MRMorefield-ft> where can i get the compiz-kde package?
[04:19] <h3sp4wn> MRMorefield-ft: I thought it was depreciated but #beryl #ubuntu-xgl #xgl may know more
[04:20] <MRMorefield-ft> ok
[04:20] <MRMorefield-ft> thx
[04:20] <MRMorefield-ft> iam gonna join
[04:20] <h3sp4wn> MRMorefield-ft: alot of ubuntites use beryl
[04:20] <jobless_> h3sp4wn : hey yesterday i had a problem logging on to my schools network! my school does not use a passkey! But the first time you open a webpage ..a default webpage is opened and we enter our schoold id and password. I was unable to connect to the network in this manner. But when i used windows to connect to the network and then restarted my system into kubuntu .. the network was connected!! do ya know why this is?!
[04:21] <BlackNine> Forget Kubuntu, Im installing Solaris again, it will probley be less of a pain in the ass to install.
[04:21] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: Your mac address was quite possibly preauthenticated
[04:22] <h3sp4wn> BlackNine: using solaris for a desktop is definately harder to use than kubuntu
[04:22] <jobless_> h3sp4wn : i thought so .. but why does it ask for my password when i just restart windows? do you think the lease time expired?!
[04:22] <h3sp4wn> BlackNine: try the text mode installer (alternative cd)
[04:22] <Alter-Ego> try dapper
[04:23] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: Not sure it could be using some type of enterprise authentication
[04:23] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: iwlist eth1 scan
[04:23] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: next time you are there and save the screen
[04:24] <jobless_> h3sp4wn : sure
[04:24] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: (tells you what its using at least somewhat) - I don't know a web page could be windows only (unless it only works with ie)
[04:24] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: (presuming eth1 is the interface)
[04:25] <jobless_> it uses ssl 2.0 for authentication .. i had problem using it as ssl 2.0 (or was it ssl 1.00) is not used by default in ie and firefox!
[04:25] <jobless_> h3sp4wn:it uses ssl 2.0 for authentication .. i had problem using it as ssl 2.0 (or was it ssl 1.00) is not used by default in ie and firefox!
[04:26] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: Is TLS ssl 2.0 ?
[04:26] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: It is used with SSL I know that for something (e.g by gmail)
[04:27] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: Using the enterprise stuff (
[04:27] <jobless_> h3sp4wn : i did not understand wat u meant.. but it uses a verisign certificate that is outdated!
[04:28] <h3sp4wn> Well its either ieee8021x or eap you need to use
[04:28] <h3sp4wn> But I would recommend getting a simple wpa or wpa2 config working first before you start messing with that
[04:29] <jobless_> h3sp4wn : will try that ..!
[04:29] <h3sp4wn> (getting the certificate into the right format could be a pain)
[04:30] <jobless_> h3sp4wn : i had a problem installing kubuntu on a system in my lab!
[04:30] <jobless_> h3sp4wn : its a dell xps/dimension 700
[04:31] <jobless_> h3sp4wn : the installation just freezes!
[04:31] <jobless_> any idea why this is?!
[04:31] <h3sp4wn> no idea - use the alternative cd (it works alot better in my experience and fails alot less often)
[04:31] <jobless_> hmm
[04:32] <jobless_> it worked well on my laptop which i am using now ..!
[04:32] <jobless_> it says some problem with pnp bios and it freezes!
[04:32] <BluesKaj> what player does windows media in kubuntu ...someone remind me pls ?
[04:33] <h3sp4wn> dunno I never use the live cd (I think its terrible to use as a live cd - not got any of the useful things for a live cd) and the alternative cd is more reliable
[04:33] <jobless_> BluesKaj doesn't vlc do that!?
[04:33] <hollywoodb> !wma
[04:33] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[04:34] <Gladk> Hi!
[04:34] <IA-Outdoors> I don't see ndisgtk in adept...is there something I'm missing?
[04:34] <jobless_> hmm .. can i do the installation in the same manner?! like not messing with the windows files? the problem is i have only one partition and i need to partition them into 2 more..! h3sp4wn
[04:35] <Gladk> Had anybody problems with Midnight Commander? I cant find it! Sorry, I am newbee :)
[04:35] <Hawkwind> Gladk: sudo apt-get install mc
[04:35] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: Split the partitions with gparted make the free space and then use the alternative cd
[04:35] <h3sp4wn> !info mc
[04:35] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-5 (edgy), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[04:35] <Gladk> I have DVD, no internet connection. How can I install mc?
[04:35] <jobless_> h3sp4wn gparted is for windows?
[04:36] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: You can get a just gparted live cd
[04:36] <jobless_> h3sp4wn just saw it on sourceforge..
[04:36] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: You could theoretically use anything to get you the free space (partition magic or whatever or whatever)
[04:36] <prower> Hello :> I'm using the previous version of Kubuntu to 6.10...would it be worthwhile to upgrade, or are there any problems with the 6.10 release?
[04:36] <Hawkwind> !info mc
[04:37] <ubotu> mc: midnight commander - a powerful file manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.6.1-5 (edgy), package size 2057 kB, installed size 5944 kB
[04:37] <jobless_> i thought partition magic is not free! h3sp4wn
[04:37] <Hawkwind> Gladk: You need to have internet access, as mc is in the Universe repo
[04:37] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: If you want to do it from windows then you need to buy stuff
[04:37] <jobless_> h3sp4wn yeah
[04:37] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: or just use the gparted live cd (that is all it does)
[04:38] <jobless_> h3sp4wn i think i will use gparted
[04:38] <Gladk> Ok, thank you
[04:38] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: any gparted after 0.3 should be ok
[04:38] <TheGateKeeper> prower: everyone probable has there own view, but I am sticking with dapper for the time being
[04:38] <prower> TheGateKeeper: Ahh, I see...any particular reason for that, or just your preference?
[04:38] <h3sp4wn> Gladk: You may have to change the locale to an ISO one from UTF-8 (midnight commander didn't do unicode properly last time I tried it)
[04:38] <jobless_> h3sp4wn hey i got a question. .. can we be traced if we download stuff using a bittorrent client?!
[04:39] <Hawkwind> TheGateKeeper: I second that :)
[04:39] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: definately
[04:39] <Hawkwind> prower: Lots of users have problems with Edgy, though lots don't.  It's all up to *you* really
[04:39] <jobless_> h3sp4wn any way to hide around?
[04:39] <prower> Hawkwind: Well, I tested it on one machine and it was buggy as hell, so that was kind of a turn-off ;> I hope the next release is better (LTS I mean)
[04:39] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: tor I suppose but it will make your connection dog slow if you set it up wrong
[04:40] <jobless_> h3sp4wn tor?
[04:40] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: The chances are even though you can be traced unless you are sharing large amounts of stuff they will not bother
[04:40] <h3sp4wn> !tor
[04:40] <ubotu> tor: anonymizing overlay network for TCP. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.1.23-1 (edgy), package size 763 kB, installed size 1556 kB
[04:40] <jobless_> ok got it h3sp4wn
[04:40] <TheGateKeeper> prower: well I don't trust the upgrade path, & I get the feeling edgy lives up to it's name, untill I actually do it I can't speak from 1st hand experience
[04:41] <jobless_> how abt downloading like 200 gb?! in 6 months? h3sp4wn
[04:41] <jobless_> is that ok h3sp4wn
[04:41] <prower> TheGateKeeper: Ubuntu's upgrade path in general, you mean? Or the dapper->edgy transition?
[04:42] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: I am not a lawyer
[04:42] <h3sp4wn> jobless_: or in any law enforcement agency
[04:42] <TheGateKeeper> prower: dapper -> edgy as it relates to kubuntu
[04:43] <jobless_> h3sp4wn was just kidding ..!
[04:43] <jobless_> h3sp4wn ;)
[04:44] <prower> TheGateKeeper: Ahh, okay...yes, that does make sense. If the LTS release is as buggy as Edgy has seemed to be I'm going to have to look for a new distribution, and I'd hate to have to do that :< Dapper's served me very well
[04:44] <felixjet> i dont stop getting errors in ACPI while upgrading to edgy :(
[04:44] <felixjet>  * Loading ACPI modules...                                               [ ok ] 
[04:44] <felixjet>  * Starting ACPI services...                                                    acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy
[04:44] <felixjet> invoke-rc.d: initscript acpid, action "start" failed.
[04:44] <felixjet> dpkg: error processing acpid (--configure):
[04:45] <hastesaver> jobless_, please don't use Tor for high bandwidth applications. It's not designed for that.
[04:45] <jobless_> hastesaver  .. anything that can be used for high b/w apps?
[04:45] <felixjet> i need some help please
[04:45] <TheGateKeeper> prower: I think kanotix is good, I am also putting gentoo on this machine (that is if I can make my damn mind up which desktop to emerge)
[04:47] <hastesaver> jobless_, look, just don't do anything illegal, ok? ;-)
[04:48] <prower> TheGateKeeper: Ahh, Gentoo I used to use a while ago, but I found it grated on my nerves after a while ;> I don't know why, since I'm using PCBSD now, and compiling ports is pretty much the same deal
[04:48] <jobless_> hastesaver .. hmm shud get used to it ..! did not have such issues as internet security back home ..!
[04:49] <jobless_> or shud i say the enforcement was not that good..!
[04:49] <felixjet> im trying to upgrade to edgy but ACPI module dont stop giving me errors
[04:49] <TheGateKeeper> prower: :-)
[04:49] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[04:50] <hastesaver> jobless_, if you're in the same place, I'm sure enforcement doesn't care about whether you're using Windows or Ubuntu. Or have you moved to a less lawless place? :-)
[04:50] <prower> TheGateKeeper: The only reason that I'm even switching from it now is that, after going through the usual FreeBSD upgrade process (which is supposed to work in PCBSD), I can no longer mount CD's or DVD's :< And all the permissions are set
[04:50] <TheGateKeeper> prower: if it drives me nuts I will give arch another try, I have played with it on a test box & it's fast
[04:50] <felixjet> !acpi
[04:50] <ubotu> acpi: displays information on ACPI devices. In component main, is optional. Version 0.09-1 (edgy), package size 10 kB, installed size 72 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[04:51] <felixjet> !acpid
[04:51] <ubotu> acpid: Utilities for using ACPI power management. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.4-5ubuntu4 (edgy), package size 27 kB, installed size 176 kB (Only available for i386 ia64 amd64)
[04:51] <prower> TheGateKeeper: I hear a lot about openSUSE as well, I wonder how that is
[04:51] <jobless_> hatesaver .. i am in us now..! so shd be careful!
[04:51] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: running the edgy kernel yet ?
[04:51] <TheGateKeeper> prower: ohhh nasty
[04:51] <felixjet> h3sp4wn: no :(
[04:51] <TheGateKeeper> prower: will pm you
[04:51] <prower> TheGateKeeper: Really? I've never tried it before...but I can't say I've liked any version of Suse :>
[04:52] <felixjet> h3sp4wn: i get an error with ACPI module, and i cant install at all kubuntu-desktop without it
[04:52] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: hash out the invoke-rc.d line in /var/lib/dpkg/acpi.{something}
[04:52] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: probably .preinst
[04:52] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: or just put echo infront of it
[04:53] <felixjet> i dont have anything starting acpi
[04:53] <felixjet> in dpkg/
[04:53] <h3sp4wn> you do
[04:53] <h3sp4wn> dpkg/info/acpi
[04:54] <felixjet> uhm what command exactly?
[04:55] <h3sp4wn> wherever invoke-rc.d is
[04:55] <h3sp4wn> look ... it will be in either preinst or postinst
[04:56] <felixjet> but i dont have anything starting with "acpi"
[04:56] <felixjet> in /var/lib/dpkg/
[04:56] <h3sp4wn>  /var/lib/dpkg/info
[04:58] <felixjet> acpid.conffiles  acpid.postrm  acpi-support.conffiles  acpi-support.postrm
[04:58] <felixjet> acpid.list       acpid.prerm   acpi-support.list       acpi-support.prerm
[04:58] <felixjet> acpid.md5sums    acpi.list     acpi-support.md5sums
[04:58] <felixjet> acpid.postinst   acpi.md5sums  acpi-support.postinst
[04:59] <felixjet> which one, postinst?
[04:59] <user-land> Hello, what partitioner does Kubuntu use ?
[04:59] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: one of the acpid ones
[04:59] <peg> My Firefox crash in some sites
[05:00] <peg> waht should i do?
[05:00] <_vge> peg: i have the same, mostly video embed pages
[05:00] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: I dunno without looking at it myself - use instinct
[05:01] <felixjet> yea, in that file i find somethings with invoke-rc
[05:01] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: grep invoke-rc.d /var/lib/dpkg/info/acpi* may be a good start
[05:01] <TheGateKeeper> user-land: the installer uses gparted on the livecd
[05:01] <peg> _vge: my isn't in video embed pages
[05:01] <IA-Outdoors> anybody here using kwireless assisstant?
[05:01] <hollywoodb> IA-Outdoors: its broken
[05:01] <peg> I can't acess the Google Mail for example
[05:02] <IA-Outdoors> hollywoodb k, what's the work around to configure the card?
[05:02] <IA-Outdoors> ndis driver is working fine
[05:02] <felixjet>         if [ -x "`which invoke-rc.d 2>/dev/null`" ] ; then
[05:02] <felixjet>                 invoke-rc.d acpid start || exit $?
[05:02] <hollywoodb> IA-Outdoors: I use iwconfig/ifconfig
[05:02] <felixjet> i remove it?
[05:02] <user-land> thank you, thegatekeeper. i am trying to use gparted but it does not want to delete partitions on my externel usb drive. what other gui partitioner could i try ?
[05:02] <_vge> peg: mine is pretty random, i guess we crash on different things :-)
[05:02] <IA-Outdoors> hollywood what package is that in?
[05:02] <IA-Outdoors> neve rmind
[05:02] <hollywoodb> IA-Outdoors: you already have it, run in a term
[05:02] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: just put - echo ifront of the invoke-rc.d
[05:03] <peg> _vge: I thinks so too
[05:03] <[cf] nightrid3r> user-land: make sure no partition from the external drive is mounted
[05:03] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: (and change it back after you have got it to configure
[05:03] <Alter-Ego> i am trying to install wine on edgy, but adept does not show it listed
[05:04] <felixjet> i see
[05:04] <Jucato> Alter-Ego: is universe enabled?
[05:04] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: It could be because of some change in /proc that would only work once the new kernel is working
[05:04] <felixjet> done :)
[05:05] <IA-Outdoors> hollywood, iwconfig shows sit0 which is the new device after I insert the card. I do "iwconfig sit0 esside myssid" and it gives me "SET failed on device sit0"
[05:05] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: dpkg -C (lists nothing broken) ? and you put it back ?
[05:05] <user-land> thank you, [cf] nightrid3r.
[05:06] <scythe128> anyone have problems running synaptic from the menu?  mine will only load from cli
[05:06] <Jucato> scythe128: what does it say when you try to run it from the menu?
[05:06] <IA-Outdoors> uh, maybe sit0 isn't my wireless card.  When I eject the thing it does nada
[05:06] <IA-Outdoors> thoughts?
[05:06] <TheGateKeeper> user-land: take your pick: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_partition_utilities
[05:06] <scythe128> nothing at all, it just doesn't run
[05:07] <felixjet> h3sp4wn:
[05:07] <scythe128> I cant find it using ps -e either
[05:07] <felixjet> Setting up acpid (1.0.4-5ubuntu4) ...
[05:07] <felixjet> invoke-rc.d acpid start
[05:07] <felixjet> Setting up acpi-support (0.90) ...
[05:07] <felixjet> acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy
[05:07] <felixjet> invoke-rc.d: initscript acpid, action "restart" failed.
[05:07] <felixjet>  * Checking battery state...                                             [ ok ] 
[05:07] <lakin> I typically use DIA for diagrams, but it's so buggy that it's driving me nuts.  Does KDE have a decent diagram editor?
[05:07] <Jucato> !pastebin | felixjet
[05:07] <ubotu> felixjet: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[05:07] <user-land> thanks, thegatekeeper, [cf] nightrid3r found the problem for me.
[05:07] <felixjet> yay sorry, i trought it was less lines
[05:07] <Jucato> lakin: KChart?
[05:07] <felixjet> h3sp4wn: its like now i dont have more errors :S
[05:08] <lakin> Jucato: thanks, I'll check into it.
[05:08] <Jucato> scythe128: in the K Menu, right-click on the Synaptic entry, and select Edit Item. make sure that the command that launches synaptic is "kdesu synaptic"
[05:08] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: Its a pretty low quality release compared to dapper really (especially upgrades)
[05:08] <IA-Outdoors> how do I find the device name of my wireless card.  ndiswrapper -l confirms the driver is loaded and hardware is present
[05:09] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: aptitude search xserver-xorg-driver~i
[05:09] <felixjet> now im doing apt-get -u dist-upgrade|grep ^' '|xargs apt-get -y install
[05:09] <IA-Outdoors> iwconfig doesn't show a valid device with wireless extensions
[05:09] <scythe128> I have edited it before, it just stops working after a reboot
[05:09] <scythe128> cant explain it, but its not going to bother me, just checking to see if it is just me
[05:10] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: Its alot easier to just drop into single user mode (remove all of X / openoffice / kde)
[05:10] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: make sure ubuntu-minimal is installed - change to edgy
[05:10] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: dist-upgrade and put kubuntu-desktop back after the dist-upgrade (when you are in the new kernel)
[05:10] <felixjet> yep, kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal are installed
[05:11] <clement_> ritto_770@hotmail.com
[05:13] <felixjet> upgrades should be easier :( at least in a distribution that is pointed to a normal user
[05:13] <Jucato> felixjet: that's one of their goals for the next release
[05:14] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: you should have used the update-manager
[05:14] <Alter-Ego> it's enabled
[05:14] <Alter-Ego> which is why i am confused
[05:14] <felixjet> ya...too late
[05:14] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: upgrading with apt was not supposed to be a supported upgrade mechanism
[05:16] <Jucato> Alter-Ego: the universe section of mx.archive.ubuntu.com is totally empty... use another mirror/server
[05:16] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[05:16] <Alter-Ego> Jucato: ah, ok
[05:16] <Alter-Ego> !universe
[05:16] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:17] <Jucato> Alter-Ego: just change the "mx." to something else
[05:17] <MidMark> someone else has this bug? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/hal/+bug/14692
[05:18] <|joe|> hello
[05:19] <|joe|> is here anybody using a dsl connection under kubuntu? if yes, do you use some frontend instead of pon/poff?
[05:19] <|joe|> i'm asking because knet seems to be completely broken in edgy
[05:20] <Jucato> |joe|: I do. but I don't even use pon/poff, since I set it to automatically connect on boot
[05:20] <|joe|> Jucato: ahm ok
[05:20] <Jucato> |joe|: but in the rare cases I do need to use pon/poff, I type them directly
[05:20] <|joe|> is there actually any other similar frontend supporting pppoe?
[05:21] <Jucato> my experience with KNet in Dapper, wasn't really.... um satisfactory...
[05:21] <|joe|> i know kwlan got support for it lately
[05:21] <Jucato> |joe|: I wish Kubuntu would develop one, don't you? :)
[05:21] <intelikey> what's the best way for a script to identify what environment it's running in?     i have a script that needs to test for both display size and ownership ???
[05:21] <|joe|> Jucato: well sometimes in the knetworkconf ... :)
[05:22] <|joe|> Jucato: anyway what do you mean by unsatisfactory?
[05:22] <intelikey> let me redirrect that question.   ownership as in "what app called me?"
[05:22] <|joe|> intelikey: kind of parent pid or what?
[05:23] <Jucato> |joe|: I found it a bit hard to configure... I mean compared to drakconf... :P
[05:23] <|joe|> Jucato: that's right you have to actually copy the stuff from /etc/ppp/peers into knet
[05:23] <intelikey> |joe| yeah i been testing $PPID against a known list of veriables  but was kinda looking for a "better" way.
[05:23] <scythe128> ahh, back
[05:23] <|joe|> Jucato: but hey, it's working :) (it worked at least)
[05:24] <Jucato> |joe|: although having a unified GUI for all types of internet connections is very nice. but KNet is very old (and unmaintained, afaik)...
[05:24] <|joe|> Jucato: and now that knet is broken i don't know any other simple frontend to this in kubuntu
[05:24] <|joe|> intelikey: and what should be the "output" ? prog name ?
[05:25] <Jucato> |joe|: I really haven't gone beyond pppoeconf :)
[05:25] <intelikey> |joe| at present i've got   [ $PPID = $LIST ]  && blah   in a  for loop    but there must be something better.
[05:25] <|joe|> Jucato: lucky one :)
[05:25] <|joe|> Jucato: but i don't turn on modem all the time
[05:25] <Jucato> |joe|: ah. true... whenever I boot up my PC, the modem is automatically on. and I connect automatically...
[05:26] <Jucato> (this PC actually has basically no worth without an internet connection...)
[05:26] <|joe|> intelikey: i don't understand exactly what do you need. do you want to know the program name? what information do you need exactly
[05:26] <|joe|> Jucato: i'm nor sure if setup like your's would work for me, because the modem needs some time to get the connection
[05:27] <intelikey> |joe| the output will be formated according to env    that is to say depending on $PPID it will either display things and that restricted to x# lines   or simply send to /dev/null
[05:27] <|joe|> Jucato: depending on kubuntu boot speed this could fail :)
[05:27] <Jucato> |joe|: I think mine does too. but by the time KDE loads fully, it's connected. sometimes though, I have to wait for a few more seconds
[05:28] <moroz> yes
[05:28] <|joe|> intelikey: and what is the $LIST in your case? what apps do you need to recognize?
[05:28] <Jucato> but that's presuming I have the modem on when I startup...
[05:28] <pointwood> hey, I just connected a HP laserjet 1020 printer to my laptop with usb
[05:28] <pointwood> but I can't get it to print
[05:29] <|joe|> Jucato: is it actually fine for ppp if the modem is not up? is there some kind of retry?
[05:29] <pointwood> it sends the print job and says it is completed, but the job never arrives at the printer
[05:29] <klopsy> siema
[05:29] <klopsy> ;d
[05:29] <klopsy> duupa
[05:29] <Jucato> |joe|: mine retries again and again until it gets connected. sometimes it just hangs up, though...
[05:29] <intelikey> |joe| "do you want to know the program name? what information do you need exactly"   if it's a shell  i.e. called from the commandline it will output in one format but if called from say this irc client it will restrict output so that it can't flood the channel   and if from another app where it would to open a window to show details it will just redirrect to null
[05:30] <|joe|> intelikey: i see
[05:31] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: are you using readlink /proc/$PPID/exe ?
[05:31] <|joe|> intelikey: if it's ok for you to "switch" according to the name then ...
[05:31] <|joe|> intelikey: ok, h3sp4wn was faster :)
[05:32] <intelikey> readlink   hmmmmm
[05:32] <|joe|> intelikey: isn't using a parameter an option for you? would be imho better if possible
[05:32] <intelikey> that doesn't help any
[05:32] <|joe|> intelikey: you could even try to make symlinks and switch according to the progname
[05:33] <intelikey> |joe| ???
[05:33] <|joe|> :)
[05:33] <|joe|> intelikey: i mean that from shell you call app1, from irc app2, from x appx and all appx are symlinked to app1
[05:33] <intelikey> |joe| " isn't using a parameter an option for you? "    i'm using symbolic links to determine things already....
[05:34] <intelikey> you are sujesting expanding the list of commands that actually call this script...
[05:34] <|joe|> not very smart i admit
[05:36] <intelikey> well i guess i can continue using a for loop to test ppid   just thought someone might have a faster/better/smarter way
[05:36] <|joe|> Jucato: anyway it's a pity kubuntu does not have some usable frontend to pppoe
[05:36] <felixjet> edgy is running so slowly :S
[05:36] <robin_> whats new
[05:37] <Jucato> |joe|: the "sickness" is widespread in the Debian world, I think.
[05:37] <|joe|> Jucato: well i'm going to fix this, i think i've already found the problem
[05:37] <Jucato> |joe|: most RPM-based distros use drakconf, YaST or something similar...
[05:37] <Jucato> |joe|: ok. good luck then!
[05:39] <Lam_> i have the system monitor on my panel and i accidentaly removed the Memory monitor
[05:39] <Lam_> how do i get it back?
[05:39] <user-land> i was able to delete all partitions in gparted, but now gparted does not see the external harddisk anymore.
[05:41] <h3sp4wn> felixjet: upgrade to sid and most of your problems will be fixed
[05:42] <lacek> Hi, pls tell me how....
[05:42] <felixjet> h3sp4wn:  sid?
[05:43] <freewill> how can i compile wine?
[05:43] <felixjet> whats sid'
[05:43] <felixjet> freewill: make && sudo make install
[05:43] <freewill> it doen not work in edgy
[05:43] <freewill> (wine24)
[05:43] <lacek> I have ati card on my laptop. I tried to use live cd, but I dont know the initial parameters i have to give to get correkt x. So seems, that the x basic ati driver not works with my ati
[05:44] <felixjet> sudo apt-get install wine
[05:44] <felixjet> ?
[05:44] <freewill> i can't ping 81.171.111.184
[05:45] <freewill> i have tried everything even to get cvs code but i can't get wine :(
[05:45] <freewill> is it possable that someone can host it for me?
[05:45] <scythe128> you can get it using synaptic, I did last thursday
[05:45] <freewill> (the deb for edgy)
[05:46] <intelikey> freewill 64bit ?
[05:46] <freewill> i386
[05:46] <intelikey> !info wine
[05:46] <ubotu> wine: Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.22-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 42452 kB
[05:46] <intelikey> enable universe
[05:46] <intelikey> !repos
[05:46] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:47] <felixjet> h3sp4wn: what is SID ?
[05:47] <scythe128> ohh, I forgot I had enabled muilt and universe
[05:47] <scythe128> !SID
[05:47] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about SID - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:47] <scythe128> well, I tried :)
[05:47] <felixjet> ^^
[05:47] <intelikey> sid is debian    not ubuntu
[05:48] <intelikey> debian != ubuntu
[05:48] <scythe128> wasnt sid out before woody?  isnt woody the stable now and etch in testing?
[05:48] <freewill> oms thanks for hosting it in the ubuntu archives!!!
[05:49] <intelikey> sid is out before all releases..... sid is the development branch    sid == bata
[05:49] <intelikey> beta
[05:49] <scythe128> ahh, still dont hae debians naming down quite right
[05:49] <Bubba_Gump> i've a 1900mhz processer, however, power manager displays halfway at 900mhz, anyone explain ??
[05:49] <scythe128> whats after etch.... rex? :)
[05:50] <Tm_T> scythe128: Feisty Fawn I think.
[05:50] <scythe128> bubba, are stepping down? you on a laptop?
[05:50] <Bubba_Gump> scythe128: i'm on a laptop yes. what does stepping down mean?
[05:51] <scythe128> bubba, stepping down means that you are using speedstep.  It slows your processor down when you are unplugged
[05:51] <dobo> !nopaste
[05:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nopaste - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:51] <Bubba_Gump> ahh
[05:51] <Bubba_Gump> i am currently plugged in
[05:52] <Bubba_Gump> and the speed appears stepped down
[05:52] <scythe128> I had that problem, but I dont know how I fixed it.  WHen you open an app, does it change to 1900 and the drop back down?
[05:53] <intelikey> scythe128 it has been determined that they will use alphbetical nomenclature
[05:53] <Lam_> i have the system monitor on my panel and i accidentaly removed the Memory monitor
[05:53] <Lam_> how do i get it back?
[05:53] <scythe128> like hoard hedghog to dapper drake?
[05:53] <Bubba_Gump> scythe128: yes. it does
[05:53] <intelikey> scythe128 no dapper is the first in this process
[05:54] <scythe128> intel, im gonna have to install a sacasm key on this laptop :)
[05:54] <scythe128> bubba, are you using edgy?
[05:54] <scythe128> If so , I am stillworking on it
[05:54] <Bubba_Gump> scythe128: edgy :)
[05:55] <intelikey> kar-sacasm ?
[05:55] <Lam_> sarkasm!
[05:55] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[05:55] <scythe128> I am having the exact same problem... 600mhz, 1200mhz, 600 mhz
[05:55] <scythe128> grrr
[05:56] <Bubba_Gump> it's cool as 900mhz is pretty fast for kubuntu
[05:56] <Bubba_Gump> would be nice for the extra speed though...
[05:56] <scythe128> intel, then its gonna be a long wait for zany zeebra
[05:57] <scythe128> bubba, yeah, I had it fixed in Dapper, but cant seem to do it in edgy yet
 intel, then its gonna be a long wait for zany zeebra.    <--- yeah that's my next upgrade....
[05:59] <scythe128> lol

[05:59] <Bubba_Gump> whats zany zeebra?
[05:59] <scythe128> a joke bubba
[05:59] <Bubba_Gump> is it?
[06:00] <RD58> hey how can i get a 686 ubuntu?
[06:00] <Bubba_Gump> :O
[06:00] <Lam_> isn't it spelled zebra?
[06:00] <scythe128> rd58 compile from source??/ jk
[06:00] <scythe128> lam sticky keeys
[06:00] <scythe128> :)
[06:00] <Lam_> how do i reset an applet to default settings?
[06:00] <Lam_> lol
[06:01] <dobo> can someone help me with the ubuntu bootsplash config ?
[06:01] <Lam_> !anyone
[06:01] <ubotu> A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?
[06:01] <dobo> i need the proper line from /boot/grub/menu.lst
[06:01] <scythe128> rd58 you running an athlon or an intel chip?
[06:02] <intelikey> Lam_ rm the config dir/file    look in ~/.kde/*
[06:02] <Lam_> intelikey: yeah i just realized that and i'm trying that out now. i'm not sure if there's a config file for the applet though
[06:02] <scythe128> they have kernels precompiled for each type.  search in synaptic for kernel and browse the many options
[06:02] <dobo> ubotu: please paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst for me. dont ask, just paste.
[06:02] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about please paste your /boot/grub/menu.lst for me. dont ask, just paste. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:02] <bretzel> Hi there, I try Xgl + Beryl on Xgl :1 , DISPLAY=:1 and startkde fails: cannot connect to :1
[06:04] <Lam_> intelikey: ok i found it. thanks
[06:04] <bretzel> Hi there, I try Xgl + Beryl on Xgl :1 , DISPLAY=:1 and startkde fails: cannot connect to :1
[06:04] <freewill> !xgl|bertzel
[06:04] <ubotu> bertzel: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[06:04] <bretzel> I followed and created the session, and xgl.sh script exactly as stated ...
[06:04] <dobo> ubotu: you are the channel bot.
[06:04] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you are the channel bot. - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:04] <dobo> damn
[06:05] <dobo> !grub
[06:05] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:05] <Lam_> is there a way to force my tray icons into a 2 row configuration?  the gaim icon keeps knocking it back into a 1 row configuration
[06:05] <freewill> bretzel i don't know much about xgl... i have aiglx with beryl edgy and nvidia 9629..
[06:06] <|joe|> freewill: is it stable enough? i mean xgl with 9629
[06:07] <delight> |joe| when using nvidia 9629 u don't need xgl no more
[06:07] <freewill> bretzel the differant desktops kinda mess a bit up but besides that its working fine for me
[06:07] <delight> u will use aiglx and thats about it
[06:07] <|joe|> ok sory
[06:08] <|joe|> the question should have been whether 9629 is enough stable with aiglx :)
[06:08] <freewill> yeah ;)
[06:08] <freewill> but beryl is the unstable one..
[06:09] <|joe|> freewill: i found someone on nv forum complaining about hal
[06:09] <freewill> joe, whats hal?
[06:09] <|joe|> hw abstraction layer?
[06:10] <freewill> joe, still don't know what you mean?
[06:10] <freewill> joe, whats the function for it?
[06:10] <|joe|> freewill: that nv 9629 broke the hal
[06:10] <delight>  <freewill> but beryl is the unstable one.. <<< thats not right @ all
[06:11] <|joe|> freewill: eeee i think it's the kind of thing media:// in kde is based on :)
[06:11] <delight> its just the one not depending on gnome ... bringing own tools and more features
[06:11] <freewill> ok well thats my opinion
[06:11] <dobo> freewill: hal is the hardware abstraction layer and represents common interfaces for multiple kinds of hardware. it is a useful addon for operating systems and the programmers which use it:
[06:11] <freewill> dobo, thx
[06:12] <felixjet> !kubuntu-desktop
[06:12] <ubotu> k/ed/x/ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when upgrading.
[06:13] <dobo> freewill: do you have ubuntu 6.10 ?
[06:13] <freewill> yes
[06:14] <dobo> freewill: can you paste me your /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[06:14] <dobo> i have lost my beautiful bootsplash
[06:14] <dobo> http://phpfi.com/172624
[06:14] <freewill> ok well for me the drivers are fine i just have problems with beryl not getting to the other desktops like if i click on desktop config with beryl enabled then i can only set the background for desktop number 1 rofl
[06:14] <dobo> thats my config
[06:14] <dobo> i need to adjust it
[06:15] <freewill> dubo ok i'll
[06:16] <freewill> dubo http://pastebin.com/820517
[06:16] <user-land> do you know how to specify ext3 in cfdisk ?
[06:17] <freewill> dubo is that it?
[06:17] <mbailey> Anyone know where there is information on using 1394 hard drives with ubuntu/kubuntu?
[06:17] <dobo> freewill: yes thanks man
[06:18] <freewill> dubo np
[06:18] <dobo> freewill: i need to add splash
[06:18] <dobo> to get the splash
[06:18] <dobo> dasmn
[06:18] <dobo> brb i need to reboot
[06:18] <dobo> wanna see it
[06:18] <|joe|> user-land: you can create ext2 and add journal later
[06:19] <freewill> dubo see what?
[06:22] <freewill> the setup doesn't look to good but its installing ;-0
[06:22] <stamen> hi
[06:23] <stamen> I want to ask somthing about skype
[06:24] <|joe|> stamen: so ask then :)
[06:24] <stamen> did anybody knows an alternative program like skype which is using skype modules
[06:24] <stamen> and the web camera is working
[06:24] <stamen> because I am pised off of this waiting to wait for skype v.2.0
[06:24] <stamen> for linux
[06:25] <user-land> with mke2fs -j, thank you [joe] .
[06:25] <gazou> !seen greenlynx
[06:25] <ubotu> I haven't seen greenlynx recently
[06:27] <user-land> [joe] , do i need to create the fat32 partition too or is that done after defining and writing it in cfdisk ?
[06:27] <|joe|> user-land: i meant actually tune2fs -j
[06:28] <user-land> is that better, [joe]  ?
[06:28] <ruedi> !mp3
[06:28] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:28] <|joe|> user-land: if you have existing ext2 you can kind of convert it to ext3 by adding journal via tune2fs -j
[06:28] <|joe|> user-land: if it's empty i'd say mke2fs is better :)
[06:29] <user-land> thanks.
[06:29] <ruedi> !sis
[06:29] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:29] <|joe|> user-land: you need firstly to create the fat partition in cfdisk and than format it
[06:29] <user-land> ok.
[06:29] <|joe|> user-land: mkfs.vfat should do
[06:30] <ruedi> darn...  i need a howto to install a SiS 330 Mirage craphicchip
[06:30] <ruedi> !gpu
[06:30] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:32] <dobo> ruedi: are you trying to do something with an ati card ( x700 or similar ) ?
[06:33] <dobo> ruedi: ah sorry sis
[06:34] <dobo> ruedi: http://www.winischhofer.eu/linuxsisvga.shtml
[06:34] <ruedi> thanks a lot
[06:34] <abattoir> hmm SiS :'(
[06:36] <dobo> i have thrown my SiS-305 GPU out of the window and bought an ati card a few years ago.
[06:37] <user-land> that worked, thanks [joe] . is it normal to only get 218GB on a 250gb hd when making 2 primary partitions ?
[06:40] <dobo> user-land: sudo fdisk /dev/hda or sudo /dev/sda # then press p for printint the table and q for quit
[06:41] <digilux> hey heyx
[06:42] <dobo> user-land: sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda does it easier...
[06:43] <intelikey> dobo  cat /proc/partitions
[06:43] <dobo> intelikey: oh behave...
[06:44] <intelikey> :)
[06:44] <user-land> wow, dobo, there i get 239.5 GB, in gnome i only see 208 gb for that ext partition. why ?
[06:45] <h3sp4wn> depends whether you use 1024 or 1000
[06:45] <h3sp4wn> (I think you should use 1024 - makes more sense)
[06:46] <user-land> aha.
[06:46] <IA-Outdoors> anybody here have problems with kopete not connecting or connecting well after you've logged-in?
[06:46] <user-land> thank you, h3sp4wn.
[06:46] <dobo> user-land: dont expect too much from user-land tools. ask the kernel directly wih proper tools or the proc fs
[06:47] <user-land> dobo, the quality is lacking, right ?
[06:48] <dobo> cfdisk, fdisk and gnome and kde have special algorithms. one of these tools computes your correct size.
[06:49] <h3sp4wn> the manufacturer would use 1000 (makes the appear bigger)
[06:49] <h3sp4wn> *disk
[06:52] <xst>  Can anyone explain this: For a mount point I have specified "noauto" as mount option in /etc/fstab. But still it is mounted automatically upon boot. This behavior came with edgy. Why is it beeing auto-mounted?
[06:54] <Dr_willis> how are you accessing it xst? perhaps kde is auto-mounting it on access.
[06:54] <xst> Dr_willis: I am not accessing it. I just type "mount" in a terminal
[06:54] <Dr_willis> hmm...
[06:55] <user-land> xst, i think ubuntu is playing tricks with their /media stuff, not respecting existing linux commands.
[06:55] <Dr_willis> whats the fstab line? ive not noticed this 'issue'
[06:55] <patrick_> hi  does anybody know a good howto for installing the ati radeon driver
[06:55] <Dr_willis> user-land,  Hmm interesting.. as a test he could mount to /mnt/ instead of /media/ i guess..
[06:55] <Dr_willis> !ati
[06:55] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:55] <xst> dr_willis: /dev/hdd1       /mnt/mm         ext3    noauto,rw,user  0       0
[06:55] <dobo> !tell patrick_ati
[06:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about  tell patrick_ati - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:55] <Dr_willis> radeon? Hmm you mean the ati fglrs drivers?
[06:55] <dobo> !tell patrick_ ati
[06:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about  tell patrick_ ati - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:56] <dobo> !ati
[06:56] <patrick_> jes the fglrx driver with opengl suport
[06:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:56] <Dr_willis> xst,  the use of 'rw'  is not needed i think..   and proberly dont affect anything anyway. :)    you are mounting to /mnt/ so that removes the /media/ issue..
[06:57] <Alter-Ego> where would i find a list of repositories to choose from ?
[06:57] <Dr_willis> xst,  theres a 'user' and 'users' option also i thought.. not sure how they apply to ext3 weither...
[06:57] <Dr_willis> !easysource
[06:57] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[06:57] <dobo> patrick_: i was not able to install kubuntu 6.06 with the live cd
[06:57] <dobo> patrick_: on an amd64 with x700 ati card
[06:57] <instructor> How do I create a file in the /dev folder?
[06:58] <dobo> instructor: mknod
[06:58] <instructor> in case say I accidently deleted the one for my hard drive?
[06:58] <xst> Dr_willis: They do, but they specify that if users are allowed to perform the mount operation. They shouldn't have anything to do with this particular issue
[06:58] <dobo> instructor: no problem, theese files are managed by udev
[06:58] <instructor> dobo: and the name would make it point back to the right device?
[06:59] <instructor> dobo: so mknod /dev/hda1 b would suffice?
[06:59] <dobo> instructor: udev finds your hardware at boottime and creates the devices on the fly
[06:59] <instructor> lets say I can't reboot
[06:59] <instructor> hi intelikey
[06:59] <dobo> instructor: try to erase the device from your soundcard
[07:00] <dobo> maybe listen to a radio stream and try rm -f /dev/*dsp*
[07:00] <Dr_willis> xst,  yea - reading up on the diffs between user and users now.. :) not sure when you would one or the other heh..     not sure why you would use them on ext3 really. I guess for a removeable drive..
[07:00] <sparr> When I try to restart my machine from X it changes to an 85Hz video mode that my monitor doesnt support and then just sits there (I have not checked if I can ssh in yet).  If I 'sudo reboot' from a console then I get the graphical kubuntu logo+progress bar for shutdown/startup and all is well.  Help?
[07:00] <inteliwasp> well i have an odd problem...
[07:01] <Alter-Ego> where is the source list kept for adept
[07:01] <instructor> Alter-Ego: /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:01] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[07:01] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:02] <instructor> dobo: Still works fine
[07:02] <dobo> sparr: try to reconfigure your xorg server
[07:02] <fannagoganna> !apt-get
[07:02] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[07:02] <fannagoganna> !adept
[07:02] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:02] <sparr> dobo: when i do that i lose all the automagic stuff that the kubuntu installer did
[07:02] <inteliwasp> i am trying to install dev files to compile some programs but one of the dependencys is libartsc0 the curent version is 1.5.5 but everything needs 1.5.4
[07:02] <dobo> sparr: you need HorizSync 30-75 && VertRefresh 50-70 for example
[07:03] <instructor> dobo: Should I stop the app and restart it?
[07:03] <dobo> instructor: the devices are not erased
[07:03] <instructor> dobo: EH?
[07:03] <instructor> The device file is
[07:03] <dobo> instructor: look at them with ls /dev/*dsp*
[07:04] <instructor> dobo: ls: /dev/*dsp*: No such file or directory
[07:04] <dobo> ok instructor reboot now
[07:04] <xst> Is anyone working to fix the problems listed on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdgyKnownIssues?action=info ? Especially I am interested in bug #58721 which is assigned "high" as importance but still seems to be ignored (the maintainer hasn't commented on the issue for ages). How can I see if there is beeing worked to solve it?
[07:05] <dobo> instructor: sorry but thank you for testing...
[07:05] <xst> bug #58721 can be seen here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-mga/+bug/58721
[07:08] <dobo> sparr: enter these lines into Section "Monitor"
[07:08] <dobo> sparr:
[07:08] <dobo>     HorizSync       30-97
[07:08] <dobo>     VertRefresh     50-150
[07:08] <instructor> dobo: Bingo Got it!
[07:09] <instructor> Sort of I don't get where the major number comes from but .. I guess I'll sort that out
[07:09] <dobo> instructor: udev creates all the files in dev
[07:09] <dobo> dont worry
[07:09] <instructor> I know but in case I can't reboot
[07:09] <sparr> dobo: found the right settings for my monitor (much smaller ranges), thanks
[07:10] <sparr> HorizSync       30-82
[07:10] <sparr>         VertRefresh     56-76
[07:10] <dobo> thats an lowend 17" Monitor with the ability to screw up your eyes...
[07:11] <sparr> i know
[07:11] <sparr> trying to decide if im brave enough to run 1600x1200 on it
[07:11] <dobo> sparr: try to help yourself and add DisplaySize to the same section
[07:11] <dobo> sparr: for an 17" its usually 320 240
[07:14] <sparr> killing X, brb i hope
[07:14] <Qixx> hi; i got a really weird problem which is getting increasingly irritating
[07:15] <Qixx> been trying to solve it for months; eventually gave up - till i got it working; then broke it again
[07:15] <Qixx> basically; i got a 17" laptop; which runs at a widescreen resolution
[07:15] <Qixx> and an external 17" screen (not widescreen)
[07:15] <mr-roadster> hello
[07:15] <Qixx> i want to run the external screen *only* at 1280x1024 + OpenGL, but yeah --- it refuses :(
[07:16] <Qixx> it wants the 1280x800 resolution that the laptop runs at; or 1024x768
[07:16] <Qixx> i got it to run at 1280x1024 with a *very* nasty xorg.conf (uses xinerama) -- but then no opengl
[07:17] <Qixx> [oh yeah; and HP NX7400 / Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[07:17] <hazard_> what's the diffrence between the xf86-xserver stuff and the xorg stuff?
[07:18] <Hawkwind> XFree86 is obsolete.  It's all Xorg now
[07:19] <hazard_> I see...
[07:19] <dobo> xfree86 is one big wreck and xorg modularizes it and makes it easier to develop new features
[07:19] <hazard_> Hi hazard!
[07:19] <hazard> Hi hazard_!
[07:20] <Hawkwind> Why are you cloning yourself and speaking to yourself
[07:20] <hazard_> yea, I am.....well actually, the second one is my linux box, I'm not usually on IRC with my laptop.
[07:21] <sparr> I added "1600x1200" to my xorg.conf in the appropriate place, but this is what my Xorg.0.log has to say about it:  *(WW) (1600x1200,COMPAQ 1825) mode clock 162MHz exceeds DDC maximum 140MHz
[07:21] <hazard_> It sounds like your monitor is saying that the best it can do is 140mhz.
[07:22] <dobo> sparr: if you enter a VertRefresh ~82 Hz ...
[07:22] <sparr> dobo: docs say 76 is my max
[07:22] <Qixx> :/
[07:22] <dobo> sparr: and your ddc moni says its 140
[07:22] <mr-roadster> is here someone that's running with samba?
[07:22] <sparr> same docs also say i can do  1600x1200x60Hz
[07:23] <sparr> probably contradictory there
[07:23] <dobo> sparr: then you will get two options. trust ddc and throw away the docu or thrust the docu and switch off ddc
[07:23] <sparr> ill trust ddc
[07:23] <dhq> fdoving: hey
[07:23] <sparr> i dont need 1600x1200 on this tiny lcd
[07:23] <dhq> fdoving: i wanna reinstall kubuntu without deleting any files
[07:24] <dobo> Modeline "1152x864" in Section "Screen" sparr
[07:24] <dobo> sparr: compare yourself: http://phpfi.com/172641
[07:24] <dhq> i wanna reinstall kubuntu without deleting any files
[07:24] <dhq> just like a repair
[07:25] <dobo> dhq: unmount home !
[07:25] <sparr> dobo: its a 5:4 display, so 1280x1024 is my size of choice
[07:25] <digilux> hey metamorfizs
[07:25] <digilux> :D
[07:35] <dobo> sparr: Modeline "1200x1024"  130.85  1200 1288 1416 1632  1024 1025 1028 1069  -HSync +Vsync
[07:37] <sparr> dobo: looks viable
[07:38] <Pensacola> how to get compiz/xgl running on edgy?
[07:38] <dobo> !xgl
[07:38] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[07:41] <dhq_> fdoving: i had copied all my files from the live cd /etc remember
[07:41] <dhq_> fdoving: now how do i get the init.d config
[07:43] <dobo> fdoving: you have copied the debs from the install cd to your harddrive ?
[07:44] <dobo> sounds wired. i hope, i havent understood it...
[07:50] <IA-Outdoors> ok, simple question...how do I tell kde not to remember what windows I had opened when I close?  It keep trying to fire them all up when I log back in
[07:51] <h3sp4wn> IA-Outdoors: somewhere in kcontrol
[07:51] <IA-Outdoors> lol, I'm digging in there...must be missing it somewhere
[07:52] <h3sp4wn> IA-Outdoors: kde components -> session manager at a guess
[07:53] <h3sp4wn> why does amarok suck so badly for internet radio (at any one time - one out of the four will be working and it takes 30 secs everytime you get a wrong one)
[07:53] <dhq_> how do i remove broken pakages
[07:53] <h3sp4wn> dhq_: depends how they are broken
[07:54] <dhq_> h3sp4wn: i have nagios common it doesnt get uninstalled
[07:54] <h3sp4wn> dhq_: dpkg -r fails with what ?
[07:55] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[07:55] <constantine-xvi> does anyone by chance have a animated gif of a spinning kubuntu logo?
[07:55] <|joe|> anyone tried to use already kde without mouse? ... terrible ....
[07:55] <constantine-xvi> |joe|: suprise
[07:55] <h3sp4wn> |joe|: ratpoison is perfect without a mouse
[07:55] <constantine-xvi> :)
[07:55] <constantine-xvi> h3sp4wn: that's because it's more/less xscreen
[07:55] <h3sp4wn> |joe|: (its what I use if I have a lot of work to do)
[07:56] <|joe|> constantine-xvi: the only thing that works is with numpad
[07:56] <dhq_> h3sp4wn: dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `nagios' in statoverride file
[07:56] <dhq_> h3sp4wn: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2)
[07:56] <|joe|> now i'm in the kubuntu's system settings and just can't get into the icon list
[07:57] <|joe|> kind of frustrating :)
[07:57] <atarag> Does Openoffice save datas to the harddisk, if i don't save them, but only print them?
[07:57] <h3sp4wn> dhq_: look in /var/lib/dpkg/info/{package name}.prerm
[07:57] <h3sp4wn> dhq_: try to find the part which is failing
[07:57] <dobo> atarag: its called autosave
[07:58] <atarag> and where can i disable it?
[07:58] <h3sp4wn> constantine-xvi: the screen keybinding as pretty sensible once you know them
[07:58] <dhq_> h3sp4wn: is there any way to repair kubuntu
[07:58] <h3sp4wn> dhq_: ?
[07:58] <h3sp4wn> dhq_: Dunno what you mean
[07:59] <dobo> atarag: mark the file as write protected and youre fine
[07:59] <h3sp4wn> or make it immutable
[07:59] <disco_volante> buonasera
[07:59] <disco_volante> :-)
[08:00] <disco_volante> good evening
[08:00] <h3sp4wn> atarag: chattr +i filename (if you are using ext3 or xfs - maybe others)
[08:00] <dobo> disco_volante: i wanna see the sharks
[08:00] <dhq_> h3sp4wn: like my kubuntu is almost on state of crashing but i dont wanna lose any info i dont have a writter and i dont have hdd space i just wanna reinstall everything without deleting stuff like in windows there is a repair option
[08:01] <disco_volante> a question... can i install kubuntu 6.10 on a sistem with celeron 2.6 GHz?
[08:01] <h3sp4wn> dhq_: Did you make a seperate /home ?
[08:01] <constantine-xvi> disco_volante: how much ram?
[08:01] <h3sp4wn> dhq_: if not just backup and reinstall and restore
[08:01] <Lam_> is it just me or when you mute the system, it doesn't mute amarok
[08:06] <SlimG> what's the command/variable to retrieve the "full username" and mail address?
[08:06] <constantine-xvi> |joe|: as i said, don't keep a bunch of stuff open
[08:06] <constantine-xvi> SlimG: your machine?
[08:06] <constantine-xvi> SlimG: it's (your username)@(your hostname)
[08:08] <disco_volante> thanks :-)
[08:08] <phlegyas> Hey there everyone. I'm trying to install Kmplayer (mind you this is the first time I'm trying to install anything) and I get a c++ FAILS SANITY TEST. Anyone can lend a helping hand?
[08:09] <constantine-xvi> phlegyas: have you installed build-essential?
[08:09] <SlimG> constantine-xvi: ex.: $USER contain my username, what's the variable that contains my full name and mail address?
[08:09] <phlegyas> check .. sanity check not sanity test haha :)
[08:10] <phlegyas> build essential right. only i have no clue what that is :D sorry I'm newer than a newbie. i'll go check on google what that build essential is :)
[08:10] <phlegyas> i'll go check thanks :)
[08:10] <|joe|> phlegyas: are you compiling or just installing binary?
[08:11] <phlegyas> ummm i think i'm compiling. there was a configure thing and I just pressed ./configure
[08:11] <phlegyas> then again i'm not sure what i'm doing haha :) this is my second day on kubuntu (or anything apart from MS win) hehe
[08:11] <jose> hola
[08:12] <phlegyas> clap clap ... i clap for myself :)
[08:12] <h3sp4wn> kmplayer is going to need quite alot of -dev packages
[08:12] <phlegyas> oi that didnt sound hopeful h3sp4wn :)
[08:12] <h3sp4wn> (maybe some not even in kubuntu is you want every feature enabled)
[08:12] <|joe|> phlegyas: you could try apt-get build-dep kmplayer
[08:12] <phlegyas> how do you guys put my name in front of whatever you right? do you type it in?
[08:12] <phlegyas> thanks joe i'll try that too :)
[08:13] <|joe|> phlegyas: depending on your client you can use tab to do this
[08:13] <phlegyas> interesting ...i feel like a retard
[08:13] <|joe|> phlegyas: are you actually compiling a new kmplayer version?
[08:13] <phlegyas> hehe ... after having spent like 21 years on pcs I cant use one
[08:13] <phlegyas> damn ...
[08:14] <|joe|> phlegyas: because it's already in the repos
[08:14] <phlegyas> ummm listen Joe I just downloaded something off the kmplayer site and it was a jar. i extracted everything and now try to make it work. i just do what they say in the installation text file.
[08:15] <phlegyas> repos. where are those repos joe? :)
[08:15] <|joe|> phlegyas: omg jar :) it's not java isn't it?
[08:15] <|joe|> phlegyas: you can install sw in kubuntu via synaptic/adept/or in cmd line apt-get
[08:15] <|joe|> phlegyas: have you tried sudo apt-get install kmplayer?
[08:15] <phlegyas> well joe i think i didnt see it in adept
[08:16] <|joe|> phlegyas: ok you probably don't have the repos configured
[08:16] <phlegyas> damn i dont have to feel like a retard i am one !!!
[08:16] <phlegyas> haha ok how do you get those repos configured then?
[08:16] <|joe|> phlegyas: its in multiverse, mmnt
[08:16] <phlegyas> if you dont mind wwasting your time with me that's it :D
[08:16] <|joe|> phlegyas: start adept
[08:16] <drarem> i have my gnu grub screen up and several choices of previous ubuntu kernels - can i and how do i delete those entries and still preserve the ability to dual-boot?
[08:17] <phlegyas> done :)
[08:17] <|joe|> phlegyas: adept->mng repos
[08:17] <fribuntu> drarem: Well, I always just manually edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[08:17] <SlimG> is there a command for listing all environmental variables?
[08:18] <phlegyas> ohhhhhhhhhhhhh wait i found that stupid thing in my list
[08:18] <fribuntu> drarem: Delte everything you don't want in there and that's that.
[08:18] <phlegyas> but it even says it 's installed :D
[08:18] <drarem> have to be in linux to edit it?
[08:18] <phlegyas> gimme me a second please
[08:18] <|joe|> SlimG: export / set
[08:18] <fribuntu> drarem: yes.
[08:18] <drarem> i see, said the blind man
[08:18] <phlegyas> ok i pressed on manage repos :)
[08:18] <drarem> thanks
[08:18] <|joe|> drarem: the items get usually automatically removed if you remove the kernel packages
[08:19] <Rossimo> could someone help me with knetworkmanager?
[08:19] <|joe|> phlegyas: ok if you see it in your list it's probabaly configured already
[08:19] <|joe|> phlegyas: do you see somewhere 'multiverse'?
[08:19] <phlegyas> nope
[08:19] <phlegyas> all i see is main restricted
[08:19] <SlimG> |joe|: thanx
[08:20] <|joe|> phlegyas: ok so change the 'main restricted' to 'main restricted multiverse'
[08:20] <|joe|> phlegyas: or copy the lines and replace the main restricted with mutliverse
[08:20] <zerak> Why on earth do i got programs in my "System services" (what to boot at start) that i dont even got installed any longer, removed them with apt-get
[08:20] <fribuntu> drarem: you're welcome :)
[08:21] <h3sp4wn> zerak: get rid of all your unused config files with sudo aptitude purge \~c
[08:21] <zerak> why doesnt it removes those by default when i remove the program
[08:21] <phlegyas> ummmm should i erase the main restricted and type in the word multiverse? or type in the phrase main restricted multiverse?
[08:22] <|joe|> phlegyas: either you type main restricted multiverse
[08:22] <phlegyas> ok done :)
[08:22] <|joe|> phlegyas: or if you make a new copy of those lines you can replace that string in the new copy
[08:23] <|joe|> phlegyas: you just need to have the main restricted somewhere
[08:23] <zerak> thanks for the
[08:23] <zerak> ule_/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver]  Error 2
[08:23] <zerak> make[2] : *** [modules]  Error 2
[08:23] <phlegyas> i did just that. i cloned everything and replaced with the word multiverse. now i pressed on fetch updates :D
[08:23] <zerak>  sudo aptitude purge \~c
[08:23] <stonie> hi@all
[08:23] <phlegyas> ok i now have them both hehe :)
[08:23] <phlegyas> hope it will still work :P
[08:23] <|joe|> phlegyas: now you have to have the kmplayer in the list
[08:24] <phlegyas> well honestly in my list in adept it says that kmplayer is installed but i cant find it in my kmenu
[08:24] <phlegyas> is that possible?
[08:24] <|joe|> phlegyas: can you run it? try alt+f2 and type kmplayer
[08:24] <stonie> I have got a very big problem. Im using edgy with an ati-graphik but the driver wont work
[08:24] <|joe|> phlegyas: it is possible, some apps don't have menu entries
[08:25] <phlegyas> noooo it says --> Unknown host kmplayer :|
[08:25] <phlegyas> well beats me
[08:25] <stonie> I have tried everything from every wiki I found, but nothing works
[08:25] <Zaphod_> I have small problem with Kubuntu... When I shutdown the computer it goes halt position... I have old computer which explains a litle of this problem, but I like to solve it as soon as possible
[08:25] <dobo> phlegyas: log out and log in again. your entries should be updated.
[08:25] <|joe|> phlegyas: uknown host???
[08:25] <phlegyas> oki dobo i'll try that too
[08:26] <stonie> is anybody here using edgy with fglrx?
[08:26] <phlegyas> that's what it says joe
[08:26] <|joe|> phlegyas: try kbuildsycoca
[08:26] <phlegyas> alt+f2 i typed in kmplayer
[08:26] <dobo> phlegyas: i have mplayer|kmplayer in my Multimedia Menu
[08:26] <|joe|> phlegyas: afaik you don't have to log out to update the entries
[08:26] <phlegyas> ok then i'm not logging out :)
[08:26] <phlegyas> let me try that kbuild thing
[08:27] <WikinG> when i try to launch beryl it shows that message: "beryl: No composite extension" what it means???
[08:27] <phlegyas> ummmm something happened but i didnt get what it was
[08:27] <phlegyas> i typed kbuildsycoca in alt+f2 right?
[08:27] <|joe|> phlegyas: it could say something like cannot run or similar, but not unknown host :)
[08:28] <|joe|> phlegyas: ok
[08:28] <phlegyas> nope. it said nothing like that ... :)
[08:28] <stonie> the big problem with my ati and fglrx-problem is the dri-module
[08:28] <phlegyas> actually i'm not sure that it does anything with kbuildsycoca
[08:28] <|joe|> phlegyas: can you try it from console?
[08:28] <dobo> phlegyas: http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5731/bildschirmphoto1lc9.png
[08:28] <phlegyas> sure i'll go that
[08:28] <|joe|> phlegyas: kbuildsycoca does not display anything but updates your menu entries
[08:28] <phlegyas> ok joe i did that
[08:29] <phlegyas> itt says that there's no database available
[08:29] <|joe|> phlegyas: and now from console kmplayer
[08:29] <|joe|> phlegyas: that's ok :)
[08:29] <stonie> is here no "ati-guru"?
[08:29] <phlegyas> from the concole i cant run kmplayer it says it's an unknown command
[08:29] <phlegyas> sorry :(
[08:29] <|joe|> stonie: sory i'm on nv
[08:30] <phlegyas> bodo i saw your pic
[08:30] <phlegyas> i dont have that sorry :(
[08:30] <|joe|> phlegyas: ok try in console dpkg -l "kmplayer*"
[08:30] <stonie> i read a lot of wikis but there is no help
[08:30] <zerak> one more and a question i ask over and over, sound problem wont get it work, many guides and all diffrent and none did the trick. However i found one that recompiled alsa for ubuntu (even thouh it doesnt feel like ubuntu style) but i got a lotof errors but it failed since i missed:    [/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/driver [/usr/src/modules/alsa-driver/drivers/serialmidi.o]  Error 1s/serialmidi.o]  Error 1
[08:31] <phlegyas> ok joe i did that now i have to read that text that came up
[08:31] <phlegyas> give me a second please :)
[08:31] <|joe|> phlegyas: it should display a few packages and two chars at the beginning
[08:31] <dobo> stonie: try to configure your xserver with an vesa card and without glx & dri
[08:31] <phlegyas> ok joe here goes. it says: desired = unknown/install/remove/purge/hold
[08:32] <|joe|> phlegyas: you should have something like ii kmplayer
[08:32] <phlegyas> ummmm i have something like that
[08:32] <phlegyas> i have a thing that goes like that -->
[08:32] <phlegyas> ii kmplayer-base 0.9.3
[08:32] <phlegyas> and it says some more then
[08:32] <stonie> at my dapper installation it works fine with fglrx
[08:32] <rafaguap> Hi guy! I'm still hesitating if upgrading from dapper to edgy now, or wait still more, for my Packard Bell Easynote laptop that I use for daily office work... still critical bugs in the upgrade process?
[08:32] <phlegyas> any of that helps? :|
[08:33] <|joe|> phlegyas: you need kmplayer wout the -base
[08:33] <phlegyas> uhmmmm ok i'll just go and erase that base thing then
[08:33] <phlegyas> hehehehe :D
[08:33] <phlegyas> how can i find the kmplayer without the base? :|
[08:33] <|joe|> phlegyas: i wouldn't do that :)
[08:33] <|joe|> phlegyas: you'll probably need it for the kmplayer
[08:34] <phlegyas> good stuff
[08:34] <|joe|> phlegyas: either in adept, but look for kmplayer wout -base
[08:34] <phlegyas> there's nothing else in adept jow
[08:34] <|joe|> phlegyas: or just type sudo apt-get install kmplayer
[08:34] <phlegyas> i did check :(
[08:34] <|joe|> phlegyas: ok so try the apt-get
[08:34] <phlegyas> ummm ok did that
[08:34] <phlegyas> but
[08:34] <phlegyas> not quite :D
[08:34] <dobo> phlegyas: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy multiverse
[08:34] <dobo> and
[08:34] <phlegyas> oh wait
[08:35] <dobo> phlegyas: deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu edgy universe
[08:35] <phlegyas> ok dobo it's opening :D
[08:35] <phlegyas> what then ?
[08:35] <phlegyas> joe ... i did that but it says it cant find the package
[08:35] <dobo> phlegyas: not clicking
[08:35] <dobo> add that to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:36] <|joe|> ooooh $@#%$@#%
[08:36] <|joe|> mea culpa, it's in universe, not multiverse :)
[08:36] <Creeture> Afternoon kids. My brand new-ish Kubuntu Edgy keeps mounting my usbdisk as uid 1000 gid 1000, even though that's not my id. Any idea where to change that?
[08:37] <phlegyas> you are confusing me people :D
[08:37] <phlegyas> ok i'll go add that thing in adept
[08:37] <|joe|> phlegyas: go to adept plz and check if you have universe as well
[08:37] <phlegyas> i have no universe joe
[08:37] <phlegyas> as i said i have main restricted and now i have multiverse too :)
[08:37] <phlegyas> no universe... i get the drill i'll go add the universe now :P
[08:39] <omar_> help please
[08:39] <omar_> K3B is crashing at me
[08:39] <omar_> and I needto burn a CD
[08:39] <omar_> I cant burn a cd
[08:39] <omar_> with K3B
[08:39] <Creeture> I've read some things about hal misbehaving, but this seems like an incompatibility in something in KDE and NIS. Any ideas?
[08:39] <Creeture> omar_: Do you have any details on what caused the crash? Log files, message output?
[08:40] <phlegyas> that universe thing is taking some time to update
[08:40] <|joe|> Creeture: do you have it configured in fstab or do you just connect and open it in kde?
[08:40] <omar_> uh well the kcrash screen is shown
[08:40] <phlegyas> maybe it will fetch some nice updates :D
[08:40] <phlegyas> hopeful thinking ....
[08:40] <omar_> just after I press the "BURN" button
[08:40] <Creeture> |joe|: Just trying to get the media:/ thing to work.
[08:40] <|joe|> phlegyas: somewhere in wiki there is list of repos, just can't find it now
[08:40] <omar_> "the application k3b crashed due to a signal 11 SIGSEGV
[08:40] <phlegyas> hmmm wiki ??? wiki wiki??? what wiki though? :)
[08:41] <phlegyas> hgeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[08:41] <phlegyas> i found the kmplayer without the base
[08:41] <phlegyas> smart smart me
[08:41] <phlegyas> hehehehe
[08:41] <phlegyas> thanks joeeeeeeeeee bodo ... and the rest of you :D
[08:41] <Creeture> It looks like it always mounts the usbdisk as uid 1000 gid 1000 ( the defaults for normal systems ), instead of doing a getent call.
[08:41] <omar_> but nothing else
[08:42] <phlegyas> but something irrelevant now ... doesnt anyone know what it means that c++ fails sanity check ?
[08:42] <ubuntu> i must say i am using kubuntu for the first time day. much different than gnome. not in a bad way just different
[08:42] <phlegyas> yeap. .. i have the kmplayer running now. Thanks guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[08:42] <zorglu_> phlegyas: something bad. aka something which is supposed to be true is false
[08:42] <zorglu_> phlegyas: in short it is a bug
[08:43] <ubuntu> o
[08:43] <phlegyas> a bug? i hate bugs ... kill the bug :P
[08:43] <|joe|> phlegyas: when did it print that message? after configure / make or when?
[08:43] <yeehaw> blabla
[08:43] <yeehaw> oops
[08:43] <phlegyas> on configure joe
[08:43] <phlegyas> i pressed ./configure
[08:43] <yeehaw> wrong window >.>
[08:43] <phlegyas> and there it was
[08:43] <|joe|> phlegyas: that's bad :) maybe you don't have g++ installed or something like that
[08:44] <|joe|> phlegyas: you need a bunch of packages if you want to compile smthng
[08:44] <phlegyas> wow ... interesting :|
[08:44] <phlegyas> should i just press on full upgrade on adept ?
[08:44] <phlegyas> could that hurt?
[08:44] <|joe|> phlegyas: usually not
[08:45] <phlegyas> well i'll go do just that then and see what happens
[08:45] <Creeture> |joe|: It mounts properly and if I browse the mountpoint directly as root, no problems. It just mounts the usbdisk with wrong perms and I don't know where to tell it to Don'tDoThat
[08:45] <omar_> cool, I am burning with nautilus
[08:45] <omar_> dont know what happened to k3b but it seems broken
[08:45] <omar_> :S
[08:45] <|joe|> Creeture: i don't know exactly who actually mounts the fs so i can't help
[08:46] <|joe|> Creeture: i think you could fix it by adding /etc/fstab entry
[08:47] <phlegyas> interesting ... i cant press on full upgrade.
[08:47] <phlegyas> i dont think this kubuntu thing likes me :P
[08:47] <zerak> same here
[08:47] <zerak> it is evil
[08:48] <zerak> it also got 29 updates it wont update since it must then remove other programs
[08:48] <Creeture> |joe|: Yeah, I know I can fix it with the fstab entry. I'm not trying to fix this on 1 machine though.
[08:48] <phlegyas> ahahaha zerak ... yeah i think it wants to push me back to xp but i';ll keep on pushing back a little bit more :P
[08:48] <|joe|> well i've never had problem with that button ... but honestly i usually apply changes manually :)
[08:49] <zerak> phlegyas every version gives me diffrent bugs, dapper refused to get ip from dhcp server, 60 % of the time, Edgy removed my sound =(
[08:49] <WikinG> when i try to launch beryl it shows that message: "beryl: No composite extension" what it means???
[08:49] <Creeture> Looks like ivman is mounting it using pmount, might be a clue there.
[08:49] <zerak> but it gets ip from dhcp server without me dhclient
[08:50] <phlegyas> zerak at least now, without the sound, you may surf in silence
[08:50] <phlegyas> hehehe :D
[08:50] <instructor> !etheral
[08:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about etheral - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:50] <zorglu_> !info ethereal
[08:50] <zerak> not as good if you want to watch movies
[08:50] <ubotu> ethereal: dummy upgrade package for ethereal -> wireshark. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.3a-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 20 kB, installed size 60 kB
[08:50] <instructor> zorglu_: thanks
[08:50] <zorglu_> what is this wireshark ?
[08:50] <zerak> got impressed however since i actually got steam up running with its app since edgy (in wine that is)
[08:51] <phlegyas> you 've got a real point there zorglu but i cant get divx/xvid codecs on kubuntu so really there's no movies prospect for me :D
[08:51] <instructor> Ethereal is no longer maintained
[08:51] <zorglu_> oh ok
[08:51] <zerak> VLC is pretty good, no codec problems but a couple of bugs
[08:51] <Alter-Ego> !public DNS
[08:51] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about public DNS - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:51] <|joe|> phlegyas: it's not _that_ complicated
[08:51] <zorglu_> instructor: from the web page, wireshake is Same developers, same code, different name. The Ethereal network protocol analyzer has changed its name to Wireshark. <- http://www.wireshark.org/
[08:51] <phlegyas> joe you should have known by know that for me everything is complicated hehehehe
[08:52] <phlegyas> Zerak i'll try vlc ..i have it on xp and works fine
[08:52] <|joe|> phlegyas: you just need to know the right packages
[08:52] <phlegyas> i'll try to get it on jubuntu too :)
[08:52] <zorglu_> !info vlc
[08:52] <ubotu> vlc: multimedia player and streamer. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8.6-svn20061012.debian-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1120 kB, installed size 3240 kB
[08:52] <phlegyas> actually you mean that i have to know how to install the packaged right joe? :)
[08:52] <zerak> as long as you dont open several VLC windows at the same time
[08:52] <zorglu_> on dapper vlc doesnt work well to say the least
[08:52] <zerak> bug in windows at least
[08:52] <zerak> no problem with VLC in dapper
[08:52] <|joe|> phlegyas: i'm using default kaffeine though it's a bit slower than eg mplayer
[08:53] <ruedi> &join 3kubuntu/de
[08:53] <phlegyas> joe kaffeine doesnt open divx files :(
[08:53] <|joe|> phlegyas: but i can play everything
[08:53] <phlegyas> not for me at least.
[08:53] <|joe|> phlegyas: you don't have the right codec ;-)
[08:53] <zorglu_> zerak: you are lucky :) mine core dump on regular basis and many codec fails
[08:53] <phlegyas> i know that joe i know
[08:53] <zorglu_> !codecs | |joe|
[08:53] <ubotu> |joe|: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:53] <phlegyas> that;s where it all started from
[08:54] <phlegyas> from that webpage ubotu passed on
[08:54] <|joe|> i recently installed dapper on one laptop, i found somehow the required packages myself
[08:55] <phlegyas> dapper is the 6.06 ?
[08:55] <zorglu_> phlegyas: yes
[08:55] <phlegyas> .10 on my laptop.
[08:55] <phlegyas> i installed the 6.10 i mean :)
[08:55] <zerak> But it really sucks to be without sound
[08:55] <zorglu_> !sound
[08:55] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:56] <|joe|> phlegyas: dapper is 6.06 when i installed it 6.10 was not out
[08:56] <m`kay> hi guys. i have installed "ubuntu-desktop" because i want to test gnome.how can i deinstall the package ubuntu-desktop with all dependencies
[08:56] <zerak> read almost all of those
[08:56] <zorglu_> zerak: tried that ?
[08:56] <phlegyas> alright joe :)
[08:56] <|joe|> zerak: what soundcard do you have?
[08:56] <phlegyas> i guess that by the time i find my way around in kubuntu ... version 60.1 will be out :P
[08:57] <zerak> SB 24 live integrated, found one for horay about compiling (failed to compile) and a lot of others with non working methods
[08:57] <phlegyas> i guess it's my luck with computers .... adept froze :D
[08:57] <phlegyas> it does nothing .. shows nothing ... :P
[08:57] <zerak> adept is SLOW
[08:57] <|joe|> phlegyas: you're the kind of persion who should test rc releases
[08:57] <zerak> it will come in a minute or two
[08:57] <phlegyas> hahahahaha joe that's me :D
[08:57] <rafaguap> ...but ... just a question: did it really change things for you, upgrading from dapper to edgy??? and if answer is yes, what?
[08:57] <phlegyas> only everything freezes in my hands :P
[08:58] <Ayabara> anyone using mplayer here? is there a way to lock the aspect ratio when resizing a video?
[08:58] <|joe|> zerak: what does lspci say? i don't know sb24
[08:59] <smaggard> Hiyas :D
[08:59] <zerak> |joe| 01:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS
[08:59] <phlegyas> ok since i'm waiting for that thing to unfreeze i'll try to play some music cds... lets try that then :)
[08:59] <zerak> |joe| also got tv-card which might cause trouble according to some odd sites
[09:00] <|joe|> zerak: sb audigy, hmmm i'd say it should actually work :)
[09:00] <|joe|> zerak: i have sb live with flyvideo3000
[09:00] <smaggard> what is edgy's pygtk2 package called?
[09:00] <zerak> |joe|: i assume it is the same sb 24
[09:00] <zerak> |joe|: or as the manual say, sound bluster 24
[09:01] <|joe|> zerak: it cost me a lot of time to persuade all programs to work per default with sb live and not with the saa7134 mixer
[09:01] <phlegyas> the only thing i have managed to make work till now and thorougly enjoy is AMOR
[09:01] <phlegyas> this penguin is a MUST
[09:01] <phlegyas> hehehehe :) :) :)
[09:01] <zerak> |joe| use ca0106
[09:01] <|joe|> zerak: what's that?
[09:01] <phlegyas> heyyyyyyyyyyyy great ... some good ol' Alice plays ... goooooooooooooooooooood :)
[09:01] <zerak> |joe| the alsa drivers i think
[09:02] <|joe|> zerak: you mean you use ca0106
[09:02] <zerak> |joe| and conexant which i think is the tv-card
[09:03] <cntb> !screen
[09:03] <ubotu> screen is a terminal multiplexer. See http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/3/9/16838/14935 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Screen
[09:03] <cntb> !resolution
[09:03] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:03] <phlegyas> hey guys how can i get on this here room through kopete?
[09:04] <smaggard> hmm is pygtk2 in ubuntus repositories?
[09:04] <|joe|> zerak: does cat /proc/asound/cards say anything?
[09:04] <zerak> |joe| ops, i should be using SB0410
[09:04] <zerak> |joe| yes, 2 entries
[09:04] <phlegyas> i mean which network should i choose?
[09:05] <smaggard> ah its python-gtk2 doh!
[09:05] <|joe|> zerak: alsamixer is working (is it pretending that it does something)?
[09:05] <|joe|> phlegyas: shoule be something like irc
[09:05] <zerak> |joe| edgy think me SB 24 and Live is SB LS which use Ca0106 while according to ALSA
[09:05] <zerak> SB0410
[09:05] <zerak> P17
[09:05] <zerak> while there is many guides that say ca0106 for sb
[09:06] <|joe|> zerak: but it's the same driver isn't it
[09:06] <zerak> alsa and kubuntu and kubuntu forums disagree about drivers
[09:06] <|joe|> zerak: ehm ... have you checked dmesg output?
[09:06] <zerak> ah me stupid
[09:07] <zerak> you are right
[09:07] <|joe|> zerak: you can try modprobe -r snd-ca0106
[09:07] <zerak> dmesg: what do you want (dont know what it does)
[09:07] <|joe|> zerak: then reinsert and check dmesg
[09:08] <zerak> in use
[09:08] <zerak> FATAL: Module snd_ca0106 is in use.
[09:08] <|joe|> zerak: argh probably running arts
[09:08] <Phlegyas> heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[09:08] <Phlegyas> i didt it ;)
[09:09] <zerak> |joe| whats that?
[09:09] <Phlegyas> i'm so very smart after all :)
[09:09] <|joe|> zerak: kernel msgs
[09:09] <Phlegyas> oki i'm listening to alice, i 'm on through kopete and i;m doing great ehehehe
[09:09] <Phlegyas> only adept is still frozen ....
[09:09] <|joe|> zerak: type dmesg | tail -n 20 in console you'll see the last 20 messages
[09:10] <Phlegyas> should i kill it ?
[09:10] <|joe|> Phlegyas: should not hurt that much :)
[09:10] <Phlegyas> killed hehehe
[09:10] <|joe|> Phlegyas: either via ctrl+esc or the hard way ctrl+alt+esc
[09:10] <Phlegyas> kaffeine looks nice by the way
[09:11] <|joe|> Phlegyas: or the polite way simply via X in the right upper corner, but that does not help every time
[09:11] <Phlegyas> right on joe :)
[09:11] <zerak> |joe| nothing of intresst there, however i found from the link the guide i been using some time back and found this intresting
[09:11] <cpk1> a normal kill actually can still be polite
[09:12] <zerak> |joe| /usr/bin/speaker-test -> (some things here and then)      Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory
[09:12] <|joe|> kill is only sigterm :)
[09:12] <h3sp4wn> kill -9 is not too polite
[09:12] <zerak> why kill easy when you can do it hard ? =P
[09:13] <|joe|> h3sp4wn: that's right but simple kill is still :)
[09:13] <Phlegyas> ok one more question ... would anyone believe that an intel 2.8 machine's not good enough for Edgy?
[09:13] <zerak> why use a feather when you can use a hammer
[09:13] <|joe|> zerak: i have the same, but i think it's because saa7134 steals the card number #0
[09:13] <h3sp4wn> Phlegyas: ram is more important than processor speed
[09:13] <|joe|> Phlegyas: if you have 32mb ram i would
[09:14] <Phlegyas> well actually i have a gig
[09:14] <cpk1> Phlegyas: umm its more than enough, in fact a 2.8 Ghz is more than enough for basically anything
[09:14] <Phlegyas> but still adept froze again :)
[09:14] <|joe|> Phlegyas: so that should not be a problem
[09:14] <Phlegyas> so what's wrong with my poor lil adept? it keeps on freezing hehehe
[09:14] <Phlegyas> hey
[09:14] <Phlegyas> it unfroze
[09:14] <cpk1> Phlegyas: you could just use adept
[09:14] <|joe|> Phlegyas: you can alternatively try synaptic, i like it actually more
[09:15] <cpk1> and when i say adept i mean apt-get
[09:15] <Phlegyas> what's synaptic joe ?
[09:15] <cpk1> =X
[09:15] <Phlegyas> come on i'm on a roll here learning today :D
[09:15] <|joe|> Phlegyas: kinda gnome adept, synaptic was here actually before adept
[09:15] <cpk1> Phlegyas: apt-get is really simple to use
[09:16] <Phlegyas> yeah but how can i run synaptic on kubuntu? shouldnt i be using ubuntu foir that ?
[09:16] <Phlegyas> cpk i cant really choose all updates to be done through console adept can i ?
[09:16] <cpk1> Phlegyas: you can use gnome and kde apps interchangeably
[09:16] <cpk1> Phlegyas: sure you could
[09:16] <Phlegyas> damn i cant even use one of them hahahaha :)
[09:16] <|joe|> Phlegyas: afaik kubuntu is actually ubuntu only that different pkgs get installed by default
[09:16] <Phlegyas> i could???
[09:17] <cpk1> Phlegyas: what are you trying to do with aptitude?
[09:17] <Phlegyas> but joe you're confusing me ... isnt ubuntu with gnome and kubuntu with kde?
[09:17] <cpk1> Phlegyas: yes
[09:17] <|joe|> well :)
[09:17] <Phlegyas> just trying to install everything there is cpk :D
[09:17] <zerak> |joe| what can i do about it then?
[09:17] <|joe|> you can install kde in ubuntu and you can install gnome in kubuntu
[09:17] <Phlegyas> oh oki joe :) i cant even install kmplayer :P
[09:17] <Phlegyas> or actually since we did that
[09:18] <|joe|> Phlegyas: come on you have it already :)
[09:18] <Phlegyas> yeah hehehe
[09:18] <Phlegyas> now i need to get me some codecs :P
[09:18] <|joe|> zerak: and what about the alsamixer? does it work?
[09:19] <zerak> |joe| get it up for conexant (tv-card i guess), dont know how to change it
[09:19] <cpk1> Phlegyas: so to install extra multimedia codecs do: sudo aptitude install libxine-extracodecs or: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[09:19] <zerak> |joe| to the next
[09:19] <Phlegyas> wow CPK that'd be just sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet if it worked
[09:19] <Phlegyas> let me try that :)
[09:20] <|joe|> zerak: try alsamixer -c 1
[09:20] <Phlegyas> oh yeah i forgot... i cant do it right now
[09:20] <lalo> hello all
[09:20] <Phlegyas> hehehe adept has my administration folder locked
[09:20] <Phlegyas> i'll have to wait first :)
[09:20] <lalo> can so help me converting flv files?
[09:20] <Phlegyas> hi there Lalo :D
[09:20] <cpk1> Phlegyas: did you close adept?
[09:20] <cpk1> !adept lock
[09:20] <ubotu> adept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[09:21] <|joe|> cpk1: is it really everything you need? i remember having troubles with xvid
[09:21] <Phlegyas> not yet cpk it's downloading something
[09:21] <lalo> hi Phlegyas!!
[09:21] <|joe|> cpk1: and for encrypted dvds one needs to get libdvdcss anyway, the correct one is not in the repos afaik
[09:21] <instructor> can I mount a hard drive on a remote machine if I have a login on it?
[09:21] <cpk1> !find libdvdcss
[09:22] <ubotu> Package/file libdvdcss does not exist in edgy
[09:22] <|joe|> instructor: if you have root, sure
[09:22] <Phlegyas> i dont even know what adept downloads
[09:22] <cpk1> liar
[09:22] <Phlegyas> hahahaha
[09:22] <zerak> |hie| worked
[09:22] <zerak> |jie| worked
[09:22] <zerak> |joe| worked
[09:22] <instructor> |joe|: What's the syntax?
[09:22] <|joe|> !find libdvdcss2
[09:22] <ubotu> Package/file libdvdcss2 does not exist in edgy
[09:22] <Phlegyas> nope nope nothing exists :P
[09:22] <cpk1> it exists in dapper
[09:22] <|joe|> hm apt-cache shows it for me
[09:22] <cpk1> !find libdvdcss2 dapper
[09:23] <|joe|> but anyway it's the wrong one
[09:23] <ubotu> Package/file libdvdcss2 does not exist in dapper
[09:23] <lalo> How can i convert flv videos to avi?
[09:23] <cpk1> liar
[09:23] <|joe|> instructor: is it in /etc/fstab?
[09:23] <instructor> |joe|: How do I put in there?
[09:23] <cpk1> Phlegyas: anyways libxine-extracodecs will make almost all multimedia codecs available
[09:23] <instructor> 10.0.0.5:/dev/hda5 ?
[09:23] <lalo> Or move files from linux to windows folders
[09:23] <Phlegyas> that's really cool cpk
[09:24] <Phlegyas> i'm on 89% with adept i'll try your tip as soon as that one finishes
[09:24] <|joe|> instructor: if you don't want to just try "mount /dev/xxxx dir"
[09:24] <instructor> |joe|: Where /dev/xxx is on a remote machine?
[09:25] <|joe|> instructor: wait you want to mount remote hd on your machine?
[09:25] <instructor> Yes
[09:25] <|joe|> instructor: aaaah
[09:25] <|joe|> instructor: well i don't know any easy way
[09:25] <instructor> |joe|: Is there a way to do that without NFS?
[09:25] <|joe|> instructor: you will probably have to export it via samba/nfs
[09:25] <instructor> |joe|: ^^^
[09:26] <lalo> How can i move files from Kubuntu to Windows folders?
[09:26] <instructor> |joe|: By have to do you mean HAVE TO
[09:26] <Phlegyas> building a house of fire babyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[09:26] <|joe|> instructor: yes, but hey maybe there's some way but i don't know it :)
[09:26] <Phlegyas> irrelevant
[09:26] <instructor> lalo: share a folder on Windows with rights to change it and and then type smb:/ in Konqueror and drag them across
[09:26] <Phlegyas> just a music break hehehhehe :P
[09:27] <zerak> |joe| might just be invalid configured but then i am unsure how to configure it
[09:27] <|joe|> zerak: is kmix working for you?
[09:27] <lalo> How do i do that on Windows?
[09:28] <instructor> Right click the folder you want to share and press h
[09:28] <Phlegyas> heeeeeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[09:28] <instructor> The rest should be obvious
[09:28] <Phlegyas> where's that cp guy?
[09:28] <Phlegyas> his tip worked; d
[09:28] <Phlegyas> :D
[09:28] <zerak> |joe| yep
[09:28] <Phlegyas> lets go try playing a video file now :)
[09:28] <chx> let's assume I have three pieces of 100GB disks. What are my options if I want speed and a little redundancy? RAID5 is a bit excessive, losing 100G out of 300G
[09:28] <|joe|> zerak: so mixers do work you just hear nothing
[09:29] <cpk1> Phlegyas: you still dont have windows media support though
[09:29] <Phlegyas> i just noticed cpk :(
[09:29] <Phlegyas> anything can be done about that ?
[09:29] <zerak> |joe| about it, unless "Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory" indicate error
[09:29] <cpk1> wmv isnt as simple but it is still simple
[09:29] <|joe|> zerak: have you tried at least line in or something like that?
[09:30] <Phlegyas> i'm open for suggestions cpk :)
[09:30] <instructor> |joe|: Do I have to install NFS?
[09:30] <|joe|> instructor: samba should be good enough
[09:30] <instructor> !nfs
[09:30] <ubotu> nfs is the network file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[09:30] <zerak> |joe| try sound system -> test sound
[09:30] <chx> I am thinking of http://www.gamepc.com/labs/view_content.asp?id=matrixraid&page=2 something like this configuration. Is LVM capable of raiding parts of disks?
[09:30] <|joe|> zerak: in that case you have to have arts configured correctlu
[09:31] <|joe|> zerak: to try at a lower level look at aplay
[09:31] <cpk1> Phlegyas: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed5 here you go, its still really easy
[09:31] <Phlegyas> well lets go try that one then. thanks a bunch for the tips cpk :)
[09:32] <|joe|> zerak: but i'm not sure whether that driver can do hw mixing so you'll probably have to stop arts daemon to try it out
[09:32] <zerak> |joe| kill ...?
[09:33] <|joe|> zerak: don't have to kill just turn off sound system in kde
[09:33] <Phlegyas> can i ask you guys something? is there anyway i can bind my windows key to the Kmenu? so that i can start the Kmenu like the windows START menu?????????????
[09:33] <zerak> |joe| or should i say stop ...
[09:33] <cpk1> Phlegyas: sure
[09:33] <|joe|> Phlegyas: default alt+1
[09:33] <|joe|> f1
[09:33] <Phlegyas> oh that's alright then i can use alt+f1 :)
[09:33] <Phlegyas> thanks :D
[09:34] <|joe|> but i'm not sure whether you can bind "only" the win key
[09:34] <Phlegyas> although the win key is easier :P
[09:34] <zerak> |joe| reboot for effect?
[09:34] <|joe|> zerak: no
[09:34] <|joe|> zerak: do you have some wav on your hd?
[09:35] <zerak> |joe| no luck, dont really know configurations for sound in linux, called diffrent things
[09:35] <Phlegyas> ok we;re downloading restricted codecs now
[09:36] <Phlegyas> stand by for results :P :P :P
[09:36] <Phlegyas> i'm in love with AMOR heheheheh ... he says --> Dont run with scissors :P hehehe smart penguin :P
[09:36] <cpk1> Phlegyas: go to the kmenu then go to system settings then regional and accessibility and then keyboard shortcuts, and the kmenu shortcut is at the very bottom
[09:36] <|joe|> zerak: maybe you could try to remove the tv card and try with soundcard only
[09:37] <|joe|> zerak: just to try it out
[09:37] <Phlegyas> ohhhhhhhhhhhhh cpk i've been there but didnt see it. let me check again.
[09:37] <PsiKloPx> Hey all....
[09:38] <PsiKloPx> does anyone have any experience setting up Gmail on Kmail?
[09:39] <cpk1> yup
[09:39] <|joe|> zerak: if you want to i can take a look at it sometimes tomorrow with you once again
[09:39] <zerak> |joe| try it at the weekend, thanks though
[09:39] <MZM> hi. I need a regex to match any string, that contains numbers and is larger than 5 symbols. Anyone?
[09:40] <|joe|> zerak: well couldn't help that much ... :)
[09:40] <osh_> MZM: What language?
[09:40] <zerak> |joe| knows that it finds it even though it calls it the wrong thing
[09:40] <|joe|> zerak: are you always on #kubuntu?
[09:40] <zerak> |joe| no, mostly not
[09:40] <Phlegyas> actually i cant set the winkey alone
[09:41] <Phlegyas> it needs the winkey along with something else.
[09:41] <Phlegyas> pity :(
[09:41] <zerak> |joe| lots of messages going around here
[09:41] <MZM> osh_: Actualy it's for Mapserver. I still can not understand regexps :(
[09:41] <cpk1> nonsense
[09:41] <|joe|> zerak: if you have troubles with sound you should generally start at the lowest level
[09:41] <Phlegyas> what do you mean nonsense cpk? i tried :) when i press on winkey it says win+
[09:42] <Phlegyas> if i dont press on anything else it doesn accept the winkey alone
[09:42] <|joe|> zerak: that means checking alsa is working and that you can play sound directly via alsa
[09:42] <zerak> |joe| must know what to check and how it is supposed to look
[09:42] <|joe|> zerak: to do this you should stop everything in kde that has anything to do with sound
[09:42] <osh_> MZM: This is an excellent page about regexps in Perl. http://www.perl.com/doc/manual/html/pod/perlre.html
[09:43] <zerak> |joe| but then one must know how it is supposed to look
[09:43] <osh_> MZM: I know nothing of Mapserver. What's that?
[09:43] <|joe|> zerak: if you'll do that i think modprobe -r should be actually able to remove the driver
[09:43] <|joe|> zerak: that's right
[09:43] <MZM> osh_: it doesn't matter. It will work same for sed.
[09:43] <|joe|> osh_: man perlre :)
[09:44] <guillaume_> O Sole Mio
[09:44] <cpk1> Phlegyas: yeah i noticed, it looks like its mapped as mod1 =\
[09:44] <Phlegyas> mod4 in mine
[09:44] <osh_> |joe|: I know. I've been doing perl-regexps for a while.
[09:45] <cpk1> Phlegyas: you get your video files to play?
[09:45] <osh_> Been a while though. Paternety leave right now... =)
[09:45] <Phlegyas> still not the wmv i'm downloading from your link as we speak :)
[09:45] <|joe|> MZM: the simpliest way would be i think kind of [0-9] [0-9] [0-9] [0-9] [0-9] +
[09:46] <MZM> |joe|: tnx
[09:46] <|joe|> MZM: not tested, just a thought :)
[09:46] <Phlegyas> ok lets try a wmv file now :D
[09:47] <cntb> hi ! How    to   change   resolution  in        kubuntu ?       what     menu   on          Kmenu   ?
[09:47] <Phlegyas> HOORAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH :)
[09:47] <zerak> system settings
[09:47] <Phlegyas> we've got wmv :D
[09:47] <Phlegyas> bowwwwwwwwww cpk
[09:47] <Phlegyas> thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanx :)
[09:47] <zerak> cntb: system settings -> monitor
[09:47] <cpk1> Phlegyas: well i didnt write the wiki for that =)
[09:47] <cntb> zerak going there ty
[09:48] <guillaume_> Kubuntu RoX.
[09:48] <Phlegyas> that 's alright you were in the mood to share it with me :D
[09:48] <Phlegyas> easy wikis rock!!!
[09:48] <Phlegyas> :D
[09:48] <Phlegyas> i hope it doesnt hurt that my first wmv file was one of francine dee :P
[09:48] <Phlegyas> hehehhehe :) well it plays ... that's all good then :D
[09:48] <zerak> cntb if it doesnt detect all your posibilites you might need to read manual and edit a certain file to match (i hope you dont have to)
[09:48] <guillaume_> better than britney spears
[09:49] <Phlegyas> i'm better than britney :P
[09:49] <cpk1> Phlegyas: also you should try using amarok as your music player, i think it is a really good app =D
[09:49] <cntb> pity ubuntu has not unified control center like SUSE
[09:49] <Phlegyas> amarok? i'll try that one too cpk. although i liked the kaffeine one :)
[09:49] <osh_> guillaume_: I hear she's single again now. Time to make a move perhaps... ;-)
[09:49] <Phlegyas> so i should go try vlc now :)
[09:49] <guillaume_> osh_: ouch
[09:49] <zodiak> So,
[09:50] <jerp> yeah, hahahah Britney Spears text messaged Federline with the D word.  How funny is that?
[09:50] <cpk1> Phlegyas: amarok is MUCH better than kaffeine as a music player
[09:50] <jerp> that's technology!!1
[09:50] <zerak> cntb not everything on the same place but quite a deal in system settings, you got 2 tabs there if you noticed (personally i noticed it today), changed since dapper
[09:50] <osh_> cntb: Damn straight. Mandriva does it right. Kubuntu is still more of a "hack" but it's free so I'll accept the warts. ;-)
[09:50] <Phlegyas> ok cpk you had me i'll go try it now then :)
[09:50] <guillaume_> A friend of mine said Foobar2000 is much better than amarok. Is he right?
[09:50] <zodiak> I just installed kubuntu on my desktop using the alternative install CD.  I boot for the first time and I get "GRUB Loading stage2.." scrolling infinitely.  This is an AMD64 box, running software RAID 1 on boot disks.
[09:51] <Phlegyas> wowwwwwwwwwwwwwww LAST.FM with AMAROK
[09:51] <Phlegyas> that's great :D
[09:51] <Phlegyas> i love last.fm :)
[09:51] <zerak> Mandriva is also free but got a LOT of bugs and Documentation = 0, ubuntu got some doc but not very impressiv doc
[09:51] <bobbyd> hi
[09:51] <osh_> cntb: Why isn't the wireless assistant a part of the kcontrol-centre as an example? It should be imho.
[09:51] <bobbyd> what's the default domain name server in kubuntu?
[09:51] <guillaume_> not only last.fm, musicbrainz too ... I'm an amarok lover.
[09:52] <Phlegyas> what 's musicbrainz i dont know
[09:52] <Phlegyas> i only use Last.FM and PANDORA
[09:52] <zerak> osh_ what do you mean
[09:52] <guillaume_> Phlegyas: tag
[09:52] <osh_> bobbyd: localdomain. ;-)
[09:52] <cntb> osh_
[09:52] <guillaume_> Phlegyas: you send a signature of your songs to musicbrainz and it gives you back ID tags
[09:52] <cntb> what is the binary for kontrol-center ?
[09:52] <cpk1> musicbrainz picard is better to use for tagging instead of the built in amarok musicbrainz
[09:52] <Phlegyas> ummm like cddb???
[09:53] <guillaume_> no
[09:53] <zerak> Everyone here should get a console like: Yakuake
[09:53] <guillaume_> more sophisticated
[09:53] <Phlegyas> oh ok :|
[09:53] <|joe|> zerak: 100% right
[09:53] <Phlegyas> what is a yakauke i dont konw :P
[09:53] <guillaume_> A signature of your song is computed and compared with ones in a database
[09:53] <zerak> really rocks when you going to follow a guide =)
[09:53] <zerak> Quake console
[09:53] <Phlegyas> now that i got my codecs ia can get yakauke too ? :P
[09:53] <osh_> zerak: It's two different ways to setup a net-card depending on if it's a wireless or a normal eth-card. Not the way I'd prefer it.
[09:53] <mbailey> quake style console interface.
[09:53] <Phlegyas> hahaha :P
[09:53] <guillaume_> Phlegyas: yakuake is a Quake console for KDE. You MUST use it
[09:53] <hazard_> Is it possible to have ssh 'remember' a password for a machine?
[09:53] <Phlegyas> i must ?
[09:54] <Phlegyas> wow ... :D
[09:54] <hazard_> Or is it possible to hand off a password to the ssh password prompt?
[09:54] <Phlegyas> i'm learning too much for one day :P
[09:54] <osh_> zerak: Normal cards go through kcontrol-center, wireless cards through wlassistant...
[09:54] <zerak> doesnt look like quake but you can bind a console to a key and it comes down from above
[09:54] <guillaume_> Phlegyas: hurry up :) "sudo apt-get install yukuake" :p
[09:54] <Phlegyas> oh that sounds cool zerak
[09:54] <osh_> hazard_: Have a look at "expect" if you're scripting things.
[09:54] <zodiak> hazard_ look at ssh shared keys.
[09:54] <|joe|> hazard: it's possible, did it once
[09:55] <Phlegyas> did that
[09:55] <zerak> there are 2 variants
[09:55] <Phlegyas> hahaha
[09:55] <cpk1> i just bound ctrl+shift+t to open konsole if i ever want a console up right then and there
[09:55] <cpk1> i already have 4 konsoles always open...
[09:55] <zodiak> hazard_: It is more secure than the other options presented (and probably easier to implement also).
[09:55] <Phlegyas> hmmmm it says cant find package yukuake :(
[09:55] <mbailey> my wireless was configured using the networking panel in control center, once I used the firmware cutter to extract the firmware.
[09:55] <zerak> Phlegyas yakuake
[09:55] <Phlegyas> ahahahaha
[09:55] <guillaume_> Phlegyas: did you activated Universe and Multiverse?
[09:55] <Phlegyas> pardon my bad :P
[09:56] <guillaume_> Ok.
[09:56] <Phlegyas> yes guillaume :)
[09:56] <|joe|> guillaume_: we did that one or two hours ago :)
[09:56] <guillaume_> forget :)
[09:56] <Phlegyas> yup unpacking now
[09:56] <Phlegyas> hahahah JOE
[09:56] <Phlegyas> :D
[09:56] <zerak> havent tried the other, yakuake seemed better
[09:56] <hazard_> zodiak looking....
[09:56] <Phlegyas> ok it fetched that one
[09:56] <Phlegyas> now what?
[09:56] <guillaume_> now, launch it :)
[09:56] <mbailey> tilda is another, but I think it's for gnome.
[09:56] <Phlegyas> easier said than done? :P
[09:56] <guillaume_> guaranteed effect :)
[09:56] <zerak> osh_ dont got a wireless card but agree if it cant be handled from "System settings" -> network settings
[09:57] <cpk1> Phlegyas: just type yakuake in a konsole
[09:57] <Phlegyas> oh ok
[09:57] <zerak> tilda is good, and yes it is for gnome
[09:57] <hazard_> does shared keys need to be implemented on the server and host?
[09:57] <Phlegyas> failed to open devide :(
[09:57] <guillaume_> I use Ctrl + ~
[09:57] <zerak> it looks a little better
[09:57] <osh_> Phlegyas: I assume you've got Katapult. That's a "must have" too.
[09:57] <Phlegyas> damn now what? hahahah :P
[09:57] <Phlegyas> what 's a katapult?
[09:57] <mbailey> alt-space
[09:57] <Phlegyas> you guys are bombing me with info :P
[09:57] <Phlegyas> oh yes
[09:58] <|joe|> hazard_: i think you need to store the keys somewhere on the server in your home dir
[09:58] <|joe|> heh
[09:58] <Phlegyas> i have katapult alt space :P
[09:58] <guillaume_> Phlegyas: too much for now ;) come back tomorrow :)
[09:58] <Phlegyas> hahahaha now what ?
[09:58] <mbailey> it was there by default on edgy.
[09:58] <|joe|> Phlegyas: alt+f2 yakuake enter
[09:58] <Phlegyas> a screen is jumping :P
[09:58] <guillaume_> Phlegyas: now compile KDE4 snapshot
[09:58] <zerak> bind it to a ket, f1 or tilde is good
[09:58] <osh_> Phlegyas: Quick-launcher. It's great. Bring up the katapult and type any app-name and it'll start. Never use the start menu again... =)
[09:58] <|joe|> guillaume_: lol
[09:58] <guillaume_> *Joking*
[09:59] <zerak> osh_ why not use console?
[09:59] <Phlegyas> the screen stopped jumping but nothing appeared
[09:59] <Phlegyas> i think :(
[09:59] <|joe|> guillaume_: why not actually configure a kernel
[09:59] <andrzej_irc> my adept manager is prone to crashes without notice
[09:59] <guillaume_> |joe|: great ^^
[09:59] <|joe|> Phlegyas: try f12 now
[09:59] <Phlegyas> ahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[09:59] <Phlegyas> now something happened :P
[09:59] <guillaume_> :)
[09:59] <Phlegyas> hehehheheh :D
[10:00] <guillaume_> and now, reduce the animation during time to 0ms :)
[10:00] <osh_> zerak: To start apps? Works but it's not very elegant. Katapult is always there at your fingertips.
[10:00] <Phlegyas> so tell me something? is that something like a console window? it is. right?
[10:00] <guillaume_> Phlegyas:
[10:01] <Phlegyas> ummm what?
[10:01] <andrzej_irc> do you experience frequent app crashes in kubuntu 6.10
[10:01] <guillaume_> Phlegyas: just try "Ctrl + Shift + n"
[10:01] <Phlegyas> what should that do?
[10:01] <guillaume_> a new tab in yakuake
[10:01] <Phlegyas> ther's a new session open now
[10:01] <Phlegyas> yeah got that :P
[10:01] <guillaume_> yeah.
[10:01] <Phlegyas> what for?
[10:01] <Phlegyas> i dont know what to put in the first one
[10:01] <Phlegyas> hahaha :D
[10:01] <Phlegyas> by the way Amarok is really good
[10:01] <Phlegyas> where's cpk? good choice cpk :D
[10:01] <guillaume_> Since I use yakuake, I never launch konsole anymore
[10:02] <Phlegyas> that's cool guillaume :) it looks fun :)
[10:02] <|joe|> zodiak: look at man sshd section authorized_keys
[10:02] <Phlegyas> i wonder what of all this i'll rememeber when i wake up :P
[10:02] <Phlegyas> ok one more question before i hit the Zs.
[10:02] <cpk1> Phlegyas: also superkaramba is great fun
[10:02] <Phlegyas> mind me asking? :D
[10:02] <Phlegyas> superkaramba?
[10:02] <Phlegyas> what's that ?
[10:02] <bobbyd> Phlegyas: save your irc log
[10:03] <cpk1> adds all sorts of cool stuff to your desktop
[10:03] <Phlegyas> oh course i will boobyd
[10:03] <Phlegyas> cool stuff? i want it :D
[10:03] <Phlegyas> come on give me that sudo linei
[10:03] <Phlegyas> hehe i'll add karampa :P
[10:03] <|joe|> zodiak: sorry should go to hazard_
[10:03] <snikker> i'm unable to see any char in the firefox's "save as..." window, only a sqaures...
[10:03] <|joe|> hazard_: look at man sshd section authorized_keys
[10:03] <hazard_> |joe|?
[10:03] <hazard_> I found something I think...
[10:03] <zerak> People remember that when you write a guide to us noobs, do tell why you do somethink and what it do
[10:03] <Phlegyas> where's my sudo line for superkarampa? :D
[10:04] <zerak> *something
[10:04] <Hattori> just upgraded to edgy. serverX doesn't start. fixed internet connection. any suggestion? nvidia drivers were installed and working before the dist-upgrade.
[10:04] <lupine_85> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[10:04] <hazard_> Oh god, more about X11.
[10:04] <zerak> what does it say? Complaining about header?
[10:04] <lupine_85> that'll /probably/ fix it
[10:05] <|joe|> and sudo apt-get -f a few times
[10:05] <lupine_85> the dist-upgrade is a bit rocky ;)
[10:05] <Phlegyas> i did it alone :|
[10:05] <Phlegyas> i ran sudo supercaramba :|
[10:05] <lupine_85> don't forget the lovely dpkg, with -r -f and --force-all
[10:05] <Phlegyas> oi it finished
[10:05] <Phlegyas> i'll go see my desktop now
[10:05] <pi1l> hello, how oyu doin?
[10:05] <lupine_85> that's saved my bacon more than once
[10:06] <|joe|> lupine_85: didn't have to use -r and --force-all
[10:06] <Phlegyas> there's nothing on my desktop with superkaramba
[10:06] <Phlegyas> oh i forgot to run it hahaha
[10:06] <lupine_85> you didn't; I did
[10:06] <bobbyd> Hattori: try the "nv" driver first
[10:06] <|joe|> lupine_85: but had to manually remove few pkgs and stuff
[10:06] <cntb>   '  '   
[10:06] <Phlegyas> now i see something :)
[10:06] <lupine_85> cool
[10:06] <|joe|> cntb: now i understand
[10:06] <pi1l> can anybody tell me, how can i get and install linux kernel headers and source code for the Running kernel in ubuntu?
[10:06] <lupine_85> rtl text works in konversation
[10:06] <lupine_85> pi1l: sudo apt-get install linux-headers
[10:06] <cntb> cannot find how to lower resollution  on screen
[10:07] <pi1l> lupine_85, and where would they be?
[10:07] <Phlegyas> who was it that proposed me to install superkaramba???
[10:07] <Phlegyas> it's cool hehehe
[10:07] <lupine_85>  in /usr/src
[10:07] <pi1l> lupine_85, but, i'll check it myself, thank you
[10:07] <pi1l> thanx
[10:07] <|joe|> cntb: do you have the resolutions configured in xorg?
[10:08] <hazard_> Anyone have any experience with avahi-deamon?
[10:08] <hazard_> mdns responder?
[10:08] <cntb> yes
[10:08] <cpk1> Phlegyas: i think kubuntu comes with superkaramba
[10:08] <pi1l> resolutions are cranky i think
[10:08] <hazard_> any idea why mine no matter what I do or configure won't work in conjuction with ssh?
[10:08] <|joe|> cntb: for the simple way try ctrl+alt+gray+ or ctrl+alt+gray-
[10:09] <hazard_> err... ping claims it can't fint the host either.
[10:09] <cntb> II want to know the graphic tool and konsole tool for   changing resolution
[10:09] <|joe|> cntb: does it work?
[10:09] <|joe|> cntb: if you want to swicth the resol incl. virtual desktop you should try xrandr
[10:09] <Phlegyas> could be actually cpk cant really remember if i saw it before
[10:09] <Phlegyas> but it looks nice anyways :)
[10:09] <cntb> simple way try ctrl+alt+gray+ or ctrl+alt+gray- doesnot work now
[10:09] <zerak> cntb or whoever wanted mandriva style, all in one, Open conquer
[10:09] <|joe|> cntb: xrandr -q and then xrandr -s
[10:11] <cntb> and fonts are terribly small
[10:12] <cpk1> Phlegyas: you open it up?
[10:12] <Phlegyas> ummm i lost you there cpk what are we talking about ?
[10:12] <Phlegyas> superkaramba you mean?
[10:12] <Phlegyas> yeah i'm installing thingies :)
[10:12] <cpk1> Phlegyas: the liquid weather+ theme is really popular also you can get tons more by going to kde-look.org
[10:12] <cpk1> they have a karamba section
[10:13] <Phlegyas> oh that's cool thanks  cpk
[10:13] <Phlegyas> but there's already tons in this superkaramba
[10:13] <cpk1> well its doesnt have kstatus which is the system monitor i'm using =P
[10:13] <cpk1> it*
[10:14] <ToyMan> anyone know if winmodem support in edgy has been fixed?
[10:14] <lol> how fix this bug in kubuntu 6.06 ? http://www.speedtouch.co.uk/330highspeed.asp
[10:15] <jerp> hahaha, I like KDE's "Kill Bill" wallpaper
[10:15] <cpk1> Phlegyas: also you can configure some of the themes to suit your own personal taste by editing the .theme file
[10:15] <guillaume_> goodbye
[10:15] <guillaume_> quit
[10:15] <jerp> the three monkeys
[10:16] <eero> Will fiery be based on edgy or what? Will it be stable in the beginning?
[10:23] <Phlegyas> good i downloaded lots of stuff for supercaramba :d
[10:24] <Phlegyas> i only have one question now guys :D irrelevant with superkaramba
[10:24] <Phlegyas> I want to know what's the best p2p for the linux community :)
[10:24] <Phlegyas> i was using emule in XP. any suggestions for my kde ?
[10:25] <|joe|> Phlegyas: torrent is not good enough?
[10:25] <Phlegyas> torrent 's good joe but you cant find little things in torrents now can you ?
[10:25] <hollywoodb> Phlegyas: amule is much like emule I believe... xo is xmule and mldonkey
[10:25] <Phlegyas> like a song or whatever. and besides... if you want something local ... what about it then ?
[10:26] <|joe|> Phlegyas: never used pure p2p only torrent
[10:26] <Phlegyas> amule then? oki :) i'll tree
[10:26] <cpk1> Phlegyas: well frostwire is pretty much your only option i think
[10:26] <Phlegyas> ok joe it's really safer and jas lots of stuff
[10:26] <Phlegyas> frostwire?
[10:26] <Phlegyas> never heard of it cpk :|
[10:26] <Phlegyas> been using it yourself?
[10:26] <cpk1> its limewire
[10:26] <cpk1> nope
[10:26] <|joe|> ok i'm gone, bye
[10:26] <cpk1> i only use bit torrent
[10:26] <Hawkwind> !frostwire
[10:26] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:26] <gnomefreak> frostwire amule limewire among alot of others
[10:26] <Phlegyas> i hate limewire
[10:27] <Phlegyas> !amule
[10:27] <ubotu> amule: client for the eD2k and Kad networks, like eMule. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.3-1 (edgy), package size 1239 kB, installed size 3368 kB
[10:27] <gnomefreak> nicotine
[10:27] <Phlegyas> lets try amule :)
[10:27] <Phlegyas> !nicotine
[10:27] <ubotu> nicotine: graphical client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer system. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.4.1-1 (edgy), package size 373 kB, installed size 1956 kB
[10:27] <gnomefreak> Phlegyas: please use /msg ubotu
[10:27] <Phlegyas> oh ok gnomefreak
[10:27] <Phlegyas> sorry :(
[10:28] <gnomefreak> btw Hawkwind frostwire == nightmare to me atm i will get back to it next week someime :()
[10:28] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: That's all p2p apps actually :)  That's why I use torrents
[10:28] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: building it not using it
[10:29] <gnomefreak> Hawkwind: its missing all kinds of files needed to build for repos
[10:29] <Hawkwind> gnomefreak: All the same.  Using them, building them, all a major pain
[10:29] <h3sp4wn> gnomefreak: the dev says he won't fix it (wants to add a torrent client to the next release)
[10:29] <hfhf> you can get limewire instead of frostwire
[10:29] <gnomefreak> h3sp4wn: thats why im fixing it
[10:29] <Hawkwind> limewire is far worse than frostwire
[10:29] <fannagoganna> !apt-get
[10:29] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[10:29] <hfhf> not from my experiences
[10:29] <h3sp4wn> gnomefreak: So are you forking it ?
[10:29] <gnomefreak> h3sp4wn: i building an edgy version
[10:30] <Phlegyas> this ubotu is lovely hehehe he knows everything :P
[10:30] <hfhf> what is xubuntu
[10:30] <fannagoganna> xubuntu is ubuntu with Xfce
[10:30] <fannagoganna> another desktop
[10:30] <gnomefreak> h3sp4wn: i have to find out exactly what they plan on doing before i can name it if i get it to work right.
[10:30] <hfhf> alright
[10:30] <hfhf> when does the bot come into action?
[10:31] <fannagoganna> what??
[10:31] <gnomefreak> hfhf: /msg ubotu something
[10:31] <hfhf> oh
[10:31] <hfhf> alright
[10:31] <gnomefreak> hfhf: /msg ubotu xfce
[10:31] <gnomefreak> :)
[10:32] <h3sp4wn> hfhf: xfce has a good composite manager and is fast but I think the theme looks awful
[10:32] <fannagoganna> well, there are all these nice Xfce themes out there
[10:32] <fannagoganna> i think you can get them with apt-get
[10:32] <fannagoganna> personally, i like KDE but Xfce has the speed going for it :)
[10:33] <h3sp4wn> If I can find a dark and fast xfce theme I might use it for a bit
[10:33] <borisyeltsin> if I have access to a machine over ssh how do I figure out what ports are open on it?
[10:33] <fannagoganna> hmm, sounds like you need some kind of open port mapper like nmap
[10:34] <h3sp4wn> borisyeltsin: sudo netstat -plunt
[10:34] <fannagoganna> but i don't know anything about nmap
[10:35] <Phlegyas> ok guys i'm beat
[10:35] <borisyeltsin> h3sp4wn: what part of that output is the port number? I see a whole column of zeros under recv-Q.. which I thought would be the port..
[10:35] <Phlegyas> i;ll hit the Zs now. i guess that was enough information for one night :)
[10:35] <Phlegyas> thanks a bunch joe, cpk and the rest of the guys.
[10:36] <Phlegyas> i'll see you soon :) take good care :)
[10:36] <h3sp4wn> borisyeltsin: local address (the port is after the :)
[10:36] <borisyeltsin> oh. hehe, thanks;) Damn.. I thought I killed all the ipv6 stuff... but there are ipv6 entries. lame.
[10:36] <h3sp4wn> :::22 (for ssh for eample)
[10:36] <siefkencp_> can any one tell me how to use postfix as an smpt server?
[10:36] <h3sp4wn> I dunno why people don't use ipv6 it can do some pretty funky stuff
[10:37] <yanis> when  I try to apt-get mplayer-686 I get the following : Package mplayer-686 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:37] <yanis> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:37] <yanis> is only available from another source
[10:37] <siefkencp_> h3sp4wn: its too expensive to consider using ip 6
[10:37] <cntb> t find changing resolution in kcontrol . can you help ?
[10:37] <cntb> cant find changing resolution in kcontrol . can you help ? h3sp4wn
[10:37] <h3sp4wn> siefkencp_: Why you can get a free ipv6 over ipv4 gateway service
[10:38] <h3sp4wn> siefkencp_: Then you can have as many external ip's as you want
[10:38] <h3sp4wn> cntb: No idea (I just set mine from xorg.conf)
[10:38] <siefkencp_> h3sp4wn: indeed but the other equipment that the tell coms dont want to pay to upgrade lies the problem
[10:39] <cntb> so h3sp4wn it is still manual
[10:39] <cntb> too bad
[10:39] <siefkencp_> what benifit do i have to impliment a pre-mature technology if its going to hinder my ability to hire help in the future
[10:39] <h3sp4wn> cntb: Not sure - what resolution do you want ?
[10:40] <cntb> h3sp4wn: 1024x768
[10:40] <h3sp4wn> cntb: And what is it running at ?
[10:40] <cntb> meaning video card?
[10:40] <h3sp4wn> siefkencp_: the road to innovation is not paved at all
[10:40] <cntb> tis a good old 15 inch mag monitor
[10:41] <h3sp4wn> cntb: what is the current resolution ?
[10:41] <cntb> h3sp4wn:  very high how can I tell
[10:43] <h3sp4wn> cntb: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:43] <cntb> OK
[10:43] <h3sp4wn> cntb: Just edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:44] <yorick> hi
[10:44] <h3sp4wn> cntb: remove the resolutions you don't need from the bottom part
[10:44] <h3sp4wn> cntb: md5sum /etc/X11/xorg.conf > sudo /var/lib/x11/xorg.conf.md5sum (run that afterwards)
[10:44] <siefkencp_> h3sp4wn: the road to inovation costs $$ and ROI is the biggest factor holding back key developments in the modernworld
[10:45] <cntb> Virtual size is 1280x1024 (pitch 2048)
[10:46] <cntb> what does md5sum do to xorg.conf?
[10:46] <h3sp4wn> remove all references to 1280x1024 (from Section "Screen")
[10:46] <cntb> OK
[10:46] <h3sp4wn> cntb: resets that md5sum (sometimes dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg can complain otherwise - thinking about future)
[10:47] <yorick> somebody has 3d working in edgy with an ATI 9100?
[10:47] <pi1l> can anybody please tell me what is the safiest way of enabling network on vmware- virtual machine?
[10:48] <yorick> it seems imposible to make 3d working with this card
[10:48] <rahmetli> i have updated my dapper to edgy,now i cant boot,i want to rescue my files and configurations of KDE
[10:49] <yorick> after configuring fglrx and disabling composite option, I restart and kdm appear, but kde doesn't start
[10:50] <yorick> kde freezes in splashcreen
[10:50] <rahmetli> the question is what to resque to recover my kde settings.
[10:50] <rahmetli> ?
[10:51] <jerp> cntb, md5 checksum is a way to verify the file you have is the file that was sent
[10:51] <cntb> ty  jerp
[10:51] <rahmetli> great succes of updating kubuntu :(
[10:52] <cntb> and what about dexconf
[10:52] <allen2003> whats kubuntu
[10:53] <rahmetli> i didnt like the upgrading procedure :(
[10:53] <fannagoganna> kubuntu is Ubuntu with KDE
[10:53] <sparr> is there a reason that the ubuntu mozilla-thunderbird package doesnt provide an icon for thunderbird?  i assume it has something to do with the debian non-free-art thing, but thats no reason to not have any icon at all
[10:58] <jmichaelx> lupine_85: if you get the chance, could you tell me whether or not you have an Edgy repo for the ralink drivers?
[11:00] <fribuntu> Hi again
[11:00] <fribuntu> Is there a way to actually enable flashplayer under KDE/Konqueror without installing Firefox?
[11:04] <wayne_> hello
[11:04] <lupine_85> jmichaelx: no, I don't
[11:04] <lupine_85> all the cards are supported OOTB
[11:05] <ml2> Hi
[11:05] <fribuntu> Ahh, found it. You have to install "flashplayer-nonfree" instead of "flashplayer-mozilla".
[11:05] <fribuntu> Just one more question: Why is the sound and picture when watching movies with flashplayer so horribly out of sync with the linux player? Is there anything you can do about it?
[11:06] <Electrolyte> Install flash 9.
[11:06] <jmichaelx> lupine_85: ok, i was just wondering. you helped me set of this adapter in dapper.... i am using your dapper driver for the 2.6.17 kernel (i think), but i am having some problems. it is slower in edgy than it was in dapper, and it disconnects from time to time
[11:06] <jmichaelx> set up*
[11:06] <Electrolyte> Which I'm a little busy to go through on how to install it, sorry.
[11:07] <jmichaelx> lupine_85: maybe having that driver installed is a bad idea....
[11:07] <wayne_> i've a question: how to install kubuntu from a cd running ubuntu
[11:08] <jmichaelx> wayne_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:09] <lupine_85> you won't be using my driver in edgy, unless you're also using the old kernel
[11:09] <DHGE> wayne_: no way install ubuntu first and then ...
[11:09] <jmichaelx> you will have to install ubuntu first, then the kubuntu desktop
[11:09] <jerp> wayne, here's teh best I can do ya........ http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[11:09] <wayne_> but there is no install on the cd
[11:09] <DHGE> wayne_ right!
[11:10] <wayne_> i've both ubuntu and kubuntu cds
[11:10] <ml2> you can install ubuntu and change it to kubuntu later
[11:10] <jmichaelx> lupine_85: ok, because i added the dapper repo and installed your drivers for the 2.6.17.9 kernel via adept
[11:10] <luke> hi all
[11:10] <Bubba_Gump> how to disable stepping down in edgy ?
[11:11] <DHGE> wayne_ boot K...
[11:11] <jmichaelx> i am going to uninstall that driver and reboot to see if that makes any kind of difference
[11:11] <wayne_> then..?
[11:11] <DHGE> wayne_ look and click ...
[11:12] <ml2> i have a usual wlan-doesn't-work problem in kubuntu, still investigating
[11:12] <lupine_85> ah
[11:12] <lupine_85> yes, /remove/ those drivers :D
[11:13] <lupine_85> there are many reasons why they shouldn't be used
[11:13] <jmichaelx> lupine_85: ty for the response! sorry to have botthered you
[11:13] <hollywoodb> Bubba_Gump: stepping down?
[11:13] <lupine_85> np
[11:13] <lupine_85> they shouldn't even be in the repo tbh
[11:13] <jerp> wayne, here's a quote on that page "The DVD contains both Live Desktop and Alternate installers, as well as the other packages in our main archive."  ........ http://www.kubuntu.org/download.php
[11:14] <Bubba_Gump> hollywoodb: i think this is the term: you know, i'm on a laptop, and the power manager says my mhz is half of what it should be
[11:14] <jmichaelx> lupine_85: ok, i removed them.... i hope i still have net access after i reboot lol
[11:14] <jmichaelx> thanks again
[11:14] <lupine_85> you will have
[11:14] <lupine_85> :)
[11:15] <hollywoodb> Bubba_Gump: its running in 'ondemand' mode... it'll throttle up when it needs to... keeps your laptop cooler with negligible performance effect
[11:15] <Bubba_Gump> cool
[11:15] <Bubba_Gump> thanks :)
[11:16] <wayne_> ok thank you friends i'll give it a try
[11:16] <wayne_> bye
[11:17] <steveire> Hey. I want to monitor an application so that I know when a file is saved, and can run a bash script when the file is saved. It would also be acceptable if I could run the script whenever the file changed, and just monitored the file. Is this possible?
[11:19] <lupine_85> steveire: possible yes. PITA definitely
[11:19] <steveire> PITA?
[11:19] <lupine_85> pain in the not-a-donkey
[11:19] <steveire> ah.
[11:19] <lupine_85> you could poll the file regularly (relatively simple), or take an event-based approach
[11:22] <steveire> and how would I take an event based approach?
[11:25] <lupine_85> you'd need to modify the program to notify you when it edits the file
[11:26] <lupine_85> or you could hack the kernel ext3 driver. or there's lots of ways to do it, I guess
[11:27] <steveire> http://oss.sgi.com/projects/fam/faq.html#what_is_fam <<< Looks promising lupine_85.
[11:28] <lupine_85> that does look good
[11:39] <steveire> is the a way to get dpkg -c through apt?
[11:40] <BluesKaj> !Demudi
[11:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Demudi - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:40] <gnomefreak> steveire: dpkg and apt are seperate apps.
[11:41] <gnomefreak> apts -c might be differnet than dpkg's
[11:44] <Zarephath> Hiya gnomefreak:
[11:44] <steveire> gnomefreak: I can't seem to make it print anything like that anyway.
[11:45] <gnomefreak> hi Zarephath
[11:46] <gnomefreak> steveire: what does the -c switch do in dpkg?
[11:46] <steveire> gnomefreak: lists files in the package. dpkg -c /var/apt/cache/archive/<something>
[11:47] <Digital_Pioneer> Hi. I need to force the device node /dev/ttyACM0 to appear at /dev/usb/acm/0 instead. How do I do that?
[11:49] <venkat_> hey can somebody tell me how to enable SSL 2 in firefox?!
[11:49] <gnomefreak> steveire: dpkg is used for files installed or after downloaded. apt is used for different things apt-cache is most likely the one you want to man for that but i dont think it has that option
[11:49] <jobless_> hey can somebody tell me how to enable SSL 2 in firefox?!
[11:50] <Digital_Pioneer> jobless_: What version?\
[11:51] <jobless_> Digital_Pioneer  2.0! in kubuntu
[11:51] <Digital_Pioneer> jobless_: DK, all I see is 3...
[11:51] <jobless_> Digital_Pioneer  i need 2.0 as my school uses an older type of certificate !
[11:51] <hollywoodb> !
[11:51] <Digital_Pioneer> jobless_: I'd think it would do it automatically. I'm using 2.0 on Kubuntu Edgy, and haven't had any trouble, but I don't know....
[11:52] <Digital_Pioneer> jobless_: Have you tried deselecting use 3.0?
[11:52] <jobless_> Digital_Pioneer  the problem is tha t i am unable to view any webpages that use ssl 2.0 as there is only support for ssl 3.0
[11:53] <jobless_> Digital_Pioneer   tried it ..no use!
[11:53] <Digital_Pioneer> jobless_: There's only an option for 3.0. It may still support it.
[11:53] <Digital_Pioneer> Hmm.
[11:53] <Digital_Pioneer> jobless_: You asked #firefox?
[11:54] <jobless_> Digital_Pioneer  on irc.freenode.net?
[11:54] <Digital_Pioneer> jobless_: I think it exists...
[11:55] <jobless_> Digital_Pioneer   i c it ..
[11:55] <Digital_Pioneer> jobless_: It's there. DK if it's used much, but there's a good number of nicks there (IMO)
[11:57] <Digital_Pioneer> Can ANYONE help me change this /dev node??? Is it possible?
[12:03] <Admiral_Chicago> how do i fix a "debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process"
[12:04] <letalis> hi all
[12:05] <Admiral_Chicago> hello
[12:10] <Kheldoron> hey!
[12:10] <Kheldoron> whats up?
[12:10] <lucky_> hi
[12:10] <lucky_> any one here
[12:10] <Kheldoron> yeah im here
[12:10] <Kheldoron> :)
[12:10] <lucky_> oh hi
[12:10] <Kheldoron> hey
[12:11] <lucky_> so i am new to this whole thing
[12:11] <Kheldoron> you know anything about wlan setup in kubuntu?
[12:11] <lucky_> no
[12:11] <Kheldoron> hehe.. u me both