=== mdz [i=mdz@conference/ubuntuconf/x-bf37208be2175757] has joined #launchpad === guerby [n=guerby@gut75-4-82-235-162-148.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === agent [n=agent@pool-71-97-200-58.aubnin.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #launchpad === Keybuk [i=scott@conference/ubuntuconf/x-454a6e4fed6913be] has joined #launchpad [12:30] stub, still restoring, eh? [12:30] wow [12:30] that's a long time. === fabbione_ [i=fabbione@conference/ubuntuconf/x-2c4ca4c5a9b12b01] has joined #launchpad [12:37] does anyone know what the function of "karma" is in launchpad? does it do anything? === fabbione_ is now known as fabbione [01:02] lifeless: ping [01:02] lifeless: forwarded you email from pqm -- gpg signing problem on ui branch === salgado [i=salgado@conference/ubuntuconf/x-a05a7a5e5ba5c657] has joined #launchpad === mpt [i=mpt@conference/ubuntuconf/x-5ac9e68e4bfa4dab] has joined #launchpad [01:05] agent: helps to anyone to evaluate your Ubuntu contribution based on the information tracked by launchpad [01:06] I have 131257 karma - is that a decent ammount? [01:07] carlos, thank you.... but aside from being a statistic, it does not do anything else, correct? karma cannot be used, given or made to do things (ala slashdot) [01:07] no, we don't have such feature right now [01:08] agent, it doesn't currently, but there are plans to use it for credit later. [01:08] How so? [01:08] carlos, okay... thanks... would be nice to have a page about karma somewhere :D [01:08] agent: you mean 'documentation' explaining this kind of things? [01:09] err... i meant kiko :) [01:09] agent, there's a page here: [01:10] hmmm [01:10] it's not online anymore [01:10] :) [01:11] kiko: X-) [01:11] okay, you're right [01:11] we need karma docs [01:11] i searched before i asked === kiko bags head [01:11] and the doc should be somehow visible in launchpad... maybe add it to the faq [01:12] yeah [01:12] help.launchpad.net [01:13] also, maybe this is an oversight by myself, but that help.launchpad.net is not linked in lauchpad.net anywhere that i could find [01:13] there is a nice faq link at the bottom === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable207.210-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #launchpad ["Bye"] === malcc [i=malcolm@conference/ubuntuconf/x-c43854f96e59c22b] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@johnny33.dersbach.ch] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus__ [n=mholthau@johnny33.dersbach.ch] has joined #launchpad === Keybuk [i=scott@conference/ubuntuconf/x-57fe57333d405d0d] has joined #launchpad === mdz [i=mdz@conference/ubuntuconf/x-513393daefb11195] has joined #launchpad === mpt [i=mpt@conference/ubuntuconf/x-0ffe42d11b7f4d7c] has joined #launchpad === mpt [i=mpt@conference/ubuntuconf/x-da0b237056a56c3f] has joined #launchpad === fabbione [n=fabbione@vpn-nat.fabbione.net] has joined #launchpad [02:16] stub: ping [02:22] stub: ping again, as it's late here === mpt [i=mpt@conference/ubuntuconf/x-ee281461b0bb0a9b] has joined #launchpad [02:39] STUB ERE [02:39] SteveA: pong [02:39] my laptop is upgrading [02:42] carlos: hi [02:43] so, kiko is reviewing my refactoring of our vhosting [02:43] I've updated all the launchpad.confs on mainline [02:43] anything else I need to do? [02:43] kiko: still here ? [02:43] nah should just work [02:43] YES [02:43] but I am about to go out to dinner [02:43] https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/fileO16s3F.html [02:43] got 2 minutes ? [02:44] if you're interested [02:44] sure. [02:44] all the virtual hosting things are collected together into a single section [02:44] and the whole section may be safely omitted [02:44] although if it is present, it must be complete [02:45] I noticed when updating the launchpad.conf files that the production ones aren't up to date [02:45] no mention of features.launchpad.net nor xmlrpc [02:45] somerville32: are you at UDS-MTV ? [02:45] are the production configs managed outside of mainline? [02:46] lifeless: I wish. [02:46] lifeless: Wanna fly me down? [02:46] lifeless: please look at the gpg error I mailed you about merging via pqm into ui-one-zero [02:46] somerville32, there's NOTHING GOOD going on there [02:46] trust me [02:46] Oh really? :( [02:46] Whys that? [02:46] Fighting? [02:46] Flaming? [02:46] Crying? [02:46] well, for starters, I'm not there [02:46] poker, I believe [02:46] so how can it be good [02:46] haha [02:47] vhosting stuff will not be uptodate in the gina and librarian configs, gina because it is obsolete and librarian because the webapp is never run with that config <8just the libraryan<9 [02:47] in my book if I'm not at the place it's not worth going there [02:47] so no worries [02:47] i hate spanish keyboards [02:47] it wasn't in production[1..4] either I think [02:47] SteveA, I think stub <3 you === somerville32 predicts that the democrats will take the senate. [02:48] in brasil? [02:48] USA [02:49] there are no democrats in brazil [02:49] well, if democrats have better immigration policy, so they'll let brasilians visit the US for conferences without the hassle of months of waiting for a visa... [02:50] that's a point === carlos is again carlos [02:51] carlos: please tell stub that the new vhosting stuff ought to land tomorrow morning, europe time [02:51] lifeless: Why do you ask? [02:51] ok [02:51] SteveA: done [02:52] thanks carlos [02:52] tchau tchau food time [02:52] somerville32: if you were here I could talk with you face to face. [02:53] Oh, haha. Freaky [02:53] Is Jani there? Have you talked with him? [02:54] np [02:55] How often do they sponsor people to go to these events? [02:59] sometimes === somerville32 sighs. [03:00] I don't like how wishlist items are handled in launchpad. [03:00] Wishlist should be a status, not an importance. [03:01] Infact... maybe it's a bug? [03:01] no, its quite deliberate [03:01] Could you elaborate? [03:01] wishlist says that the importance of the thing to the product/distro is that of items on a wishlist === somerville32 boggles. [03:02] - they will not put effort into making it happen, but if someone else provides it, it will be accepted [03:02] Ok, thats good [03:02] But people use it for feature requests [03:03] somerville32, are you talking about bug statuses? [03:03] I don't agree with lifeless, ftr === somerville32 nods. [03:04] I reject feature requests [03:04] well [03:04] I wouldn't go that far [03:04] but the line between bug and feature is not straight [03:04] and on that line [03:04] but someone told me to confirm them so that they can keep track of feature requests that are too small to require a specification [03:05] I am going to have some thai [03:05] that someone was wise [03:05] mmm, thai [03:05] ... me kangeroo down sport [03:05] Maybe there should be a feature request section and a seperate specification section? [03:06] Or modify malone to facilitate feature requests? === mpt [i=mpt@conference/ubuntuconf/x-b33f2f38813333e6] has joined #launchpad [03:07] I don't think malone's bad for feature requests [03:07] I can't for one think of a large change I could make to it to better acomodate features [03:07] It is all just mixed together though [03:07] perhaps allowing wiki markup in descriptions [03:07] somerville32, use the "feature" tag. [03:07] tags are the future [03:07] Hmm... [03:07] Maybe have a type field? [03:07] And then get rid of support requests [03:07] and just use malone [03:08] or make a feature request section since support requests get their own section, haha [03:08] support requests and bugs are separate indeed [03:09] and tags are the future [03:09] use tags [03:09] rfe != bugs :P [03:09] Ok ok [03:09] that's the meme of the week [03:09] How about implementing ajax to auto-complete tags? === merriam [n=merriam@84-12-170-70.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === mdz [i=mdz@conference/ubuntuconf/x-8138f2fdc87a9768] has joined #launchpad [03:14] kiko-fud: Do you think ubuntu-qa would accept me? [03:15] somerville32: Ask ubuntu-qa, they're going to be best equipped to tell you :) [03:15] What if they say no? [03:15] : O [03:22] jamesh: ping [03:23] jamesh: can you get the scheduler to show specs which cannot be scheduled due to missing requirements ? [03:24] i.e. 'cannot schedule foo' because attendee 'bar' is required and not present [03:24] jamesh: or does it take that into consideration already ? === carlos [i=carlos@conference/ubuntuconf/x-5d5758c5f2275230] has joined #launchpad [03:27] lifeless: those specs are currently filtered out of the input of the scheduler, actually. [03:27] lifeless: actually, no. Those attendees are removed from the input [03:27] except in the case where they were an assignee, etc [03:28] jamesh: ok. instead let me not that we're finding it hard to debug why some important specs are not scheduling [03:28] jamesh: for instance, the 09 schedule often only schedules 2 specs in a session - low parallellisation [03:28] tchau for now [03:28] lifeless: this is the list I produced for a few days ago: https://devpad.canonical.com/~andrew/paste/fileMR5GxJ.html [03:29] but I think some of those have since been fixed. === mpt [i=mpt@conference/ubuntuconf/x-272183b4e2d678e5] has joined #launchpad [03:36] It goes YYYY-MM-DD, right? === somerville32 [i=Administ@fctnnbsc15w-156034074172.nb.aliant.net] has joined #launchpad === merriam [n=merriam@84-12-164-148.dyn.gotadsl.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@209.79.152.253] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@209.79.152.234] has joined #launchpad === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #launchpad [04:43] kiko-fud, see the IssueTracker spec :-) [04:43] what?! 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I can't for one think of a large change I could make to it to better acomodate features perhaps allowing wiki markup in descriptions [04:44] I do not want to THINK about that at this ungodly hour! [04:45] heh, fair enough [04:47] :] [04:47] mpt: Your nickname seems so familiar. Have I chatted with you before? (Or should I know you? haha) [04:48] somerville32, I think ubuntu-qa might consider accepting you if you offer them some money [04:48] kiko-fud: haha, I'll keep that in mind [04:49] somerville32, not that I remember [04:56] New bug: #71020 in launchpad "Tell people where they are on the karma scale" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71020 [04:57] I still can't access https://staging.launchpad.net/ :( [05:04] somerville32, I think stub has sandbagged us all [05:04] or maybe it was carlos [05:04] it's hard to tell at this point [05:06] :] [05:06] SOMEBODY did this crazy patch [05:06] to fix rosetta [05:06] and it is taking geological time to get applied [05:08] Whose around? [05:08] er.. mischan === spiv [n=andrew@218-214-66-203.people.net.au] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad [05:33] bah. We appear to have two staging upgrades running simultaneously. [05:34] Although the first is *still* running... === somerville32 pokes stub with stick rather hard. [05:37] It wasn't me! [05:37] hehe [05:37] The real question is: Can you fix it, Jim? [05:46] I can make the patch go faster the next run at least. But it won't be available for at least 3.5 hours. [05:46] (Part of what staging does is hit problems like these before they go into production) [05:52] Bah. Can't make it go faster :-( [05:55] :( === Mez -> bed === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@c58-107-63-201.eburwd7.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #launchpad === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #launchpad === mdz [n=mdz@209.79.152.253] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@ppp105-229.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === zwnj [n=zwnj@213.207.218.157] has joined #launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@137.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad [08:56] mpt: new FormLayout has landed in rocketfuel [09:15] jamesh: so is approver=team ok ? [09:17] lifeless: not in general. I put a small hack in to recognise certain teams and ignore them for scheduling purposes (mdz should have that code) [09:17] jamesh: are the teams you listed in that hack ? :) [09:18] lifeless: yeah: techboard, communitycouncil, rosetta-admins and ubuntu-art [09:18] it should be trivial to add more if needed [09:19] ok. so thats one thing to watch for. [09:19] so in that list, why are there problems ? :) [09:20] erm, rephrase. Can you do anything for the scheduling on friday (in about 18 hours from now), to make it easier to figure out why it fails to schedule somethings ? [09:21] i.e. if its strictly priority first, and theres a high priority one being non-scheduled, saying 'skipping X because Y' to console might help. [09:32] lifeless: looking now. This is the list of specs that couldn't be scheduled: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mdz/uds-mtv/2006-11-09/cantschedule.txt [09:33] it gets added to that list if the score for every slot is 0 (i.e. it can't fit anywhere) [09:33] it isn't tracking common reasons for not being able to fit the meeting in slots [09:34] the ordering of that list matches the order that it tried to schedule them. === mholthaus__ [n=mholthau@183.127.3.213.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad [09:42] anything you can do to increase the diagnostic ability of mdz woud be great [09:43] gnight, its nearly 1am === zwnj [n=zwnj@213.207.218.157] has joined #launchpad === somerville32 [n=Administ@fctnnbsc15w-156034083113.nb.aliant.net] has joined #launchpad [09:49] Anyone around? [09:50] yes [09:50] Hi :] [09:50] Do you think it would be useful to register Xubuntu as a project? [09:51] don't know. What feature are you after? [09:52] I'm just looking for an easier way to organize, triage, and manage xubuntu bugs, specifications, etc. [09:52] Currently, since Xubuntu is derived from Ubuntu, it is all mangled together with Ubuntu. [09:55] hmm [09:55] would bug tags help on the bugs front? [09:56] I would think so :] [09:57] Oh, it looks like there is already a project for xfce [09:57] Whats a driver? [09:58] in the case of distros/products, it is meant to be the person/team that decides where the distro/product will go [09:59] Whats the difference between the maintainer and the driver? [09:59] in a small project, not much [10:00] in a larger project, you might have more maintainers/developers than drivers === somerville32 huggles launchpad. [10:00] Launchpad is such a beautiful creation. [10:09] How do I answer support requests? [10:12] haha, nvm === zwnj [n=zwnj@213.207.218.157] has left #launchpad [] === ddaa [n=ddaa@nor75-18-82-241-238-155.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === koni [n=koni@unibz.it] has joined #launchpad === Spads [n=spacehob@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad === Spads_ [n=spacehob@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad === Spads [n=spacehob@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad === koni [n=koni@unibz.it] has joined #launchpad === koni [n=koni@unibz.it] has joined #launchpad === koni [n=koni@unibz.it] has joined #launchpad === matsubara [n=matsubar@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@137.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === Spads [n=spacehob@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad === somerville32 [i=Administ@fctnnbsc15w-156034083113.nb.aliant.net] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200.181.168.60] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad [12:59] Good morning matsubara [12:59] morning mpt [12:59] Meeting today? [12:59] that's what the topic says [12:59] guess so... === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable207.210-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [01:00] mpt: the new FormLayout stuff is in rocketfuel now [01:01] great [01:01] meeting time? [01:01] SteveA: ? [01:02] SteveA is away (away) [01:02] Any volunteers? :-) [01:04] well, let's get this going then. Welcome to the LP weekly meeting! [01:04] so who's here today? [01:05] me [01:05] me [01:05] me [01:05] me [01:05] me [01:05] me [01:05] spiv? [01:05] me [01:05] somerville32: new hire? === somerville32 isn't important. [01:06] Non-developers are welcome [01:06] jordi: ? [01:06] me [01:06] == Agenda == [01:06] * Roll call [01:06] * Agenda [01:06] * Next meeting [01:06] * Activity reports [01:06] * Actions from last meeting [01:06] * Oops report (Matsubara) [01:06] * Bug report report (mpt) [01:06] ddaa, would you like to call SteveA? [01:06] * Production and staging (Stuart) [01:06] is that the time already! [01:06] * Launchpad 1.0 status reports [01:06] * Sysadmin requests [01:06] ---- [01:06] hello [01:06] * Poll to check use of smartserver on devpad, any issues etc. (spiv) [01:06] oh, never mind [01:06] * Help text in templates [01:06] * (other items) [01:06] sorry, just sat down [01:06] ---- [01:06] * Keep, Bag, Change [01:06] * Three sentences [01:07] SteveA: should I continue or you assume from now on? [01:07] matsubara: the smartserver item is from last week, you can drop it. [01:07] matsubara: please go on [01:07] spiv: ok [01:07] so next meeting? shall we make it at the allhands with everyone in person? [01:08] yes [01:08] probably not same time next week though :) [01:08] next meeting in 2 weeks === ..[topic/#launchpad:matsubara] : Developer meeting: Thu 23 Nov, 1200UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 [01:08] How about 1700 UTC? [01:08] aka 9am [01:09] I won't be at allhands, very unfortunately :( [01:09] we'll just wing it at all hands [01:09] see what the schedule looks like [01:09] ok [01:09] there will be various meetings to do with launchpad there [01:09] so will it just be "live", or online even if you're on the same room? [01:09] jordi: no meeting next week [01:10] ok. [01:10] a standard meeting would be pretty moot [01:10] * Activity reports === ddaa votes for a drinking game meeting [01:10] or a moot [01:10] +1 ddaa [01:10] not up to date [01:10] up to date [01:10] not up to date [01:10] up to date [01:10] I'm up to date [01:10] up to date [01:10] not up to date [01:10] but getting close [01:10] not up to date [01:10] not up to date [01:11] not up to date? [01:11] congrats to those up to date. I'm guilty of batching the reports. [01:11] I see that lots of people are not up to date. [01:12] somerville32: hello. in these meetings, there's a mixture of stuff that is about keeping the launchpad development team at canonical running as a distributed team [01:12] somerville32: and also stuff about the day-to-day and week by week running of the launchpad application [01:12] somerville32: and developing new features [01:12] :] [01:12] is that because of the conferences? if yes, make a big batch of you latest activities [01:12] it's better than nothing [01:12] * Actions from last meeting [01:13] somerville32: you're welcome to be here in the meeting, but don't worry about the sections that aren't to do specifically with launchpad features or quality or issues [01:13] I think those are not up to date as well: [01:13] * spiv to finish the damn __eq__ for database objects action item [01:13] * jamesh to mail the launchpad@ list with instructions on making bzr+ssh:// and PQM coexist [01:13] Those are up to date, matsubara [01:13] done [01:13] oh, I thougth it was from the last meeting. [01:13] For spiv's, last meeting he said "there's something in the review queue" [01:13] thanks jamesh [01:14] mpt: right [01:14] Did it get landed? [01:14] so it can be considered done, right? [01:14] Not landed. I'm midway through some small changes to it (ETA: done by end of this meeting ;) ), and so far it's unreviewed. [01:15] I'll mail kiko (the reviewer) about it tonight, and if he is too busy I'll get it reassigned. [01:15] done means passed review and in mainline [01:15] otherwise, it's not really integrated and available to everyone === matsubara nods to SteveA [01:15] apparently, I have a whole *DVD* of stuff that is in that state [01:15] Moving on; * Oops report (Matsubara) [01:16] Today's oops report is about bugs 70952, 52576 [01:16] Malone bug 70952 in malone "LookupError when a product adopt malone as its bugtracker and that product already have bugwatches." [High,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/70952 [01:16] Malone bug 52576 in malone "+backport needs better input validation " [Medium,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/52576 [01:16] just ask kiko. but it takes work to make it really "done" [01:16] Bug 70952 is not assigned. This is not a common situation but I left the importace as high because it's very bad press release. The jokosher product just adopted malone as its official bugtracker and some bug pages crashed for them. Who can take this one? [01:17] whenever I see the word "backport", I think of that cheesy cronenburg film "existenz" [01:17] Bug 52576 was assigned to Brad. He left a comment saying that the +backport page in question is gone in his release management branch, but it needs some tweaking in the +nominate page. Should I just re-assing this to BjornT, since he's the one working on the release management branch? [01:17] Malone bug 52576 in malone "+backport needs better input validation " [Medium,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/52576 [01:17] matsubara, BjornT is probably asleep. Does it need fixing before next week? [01:17] SteveA: its not cheezy [01:17] (70952, I mean) [01:18] ddaa: sorry I dissed your favourite film ;-) [01:18] mpt: not really. it's probably taken care of in the release mgmt branch [01:18] SteveA: sorry I dissed your favourite VCS last meeting :) [01:19] anyway, I'll talk to him later [01:19] * Bug report report (mpt) [01:19] There are 12 known Critical bugs in Launchpad without released fixes. They are: [01:19] * Bug #929 (Long words (such as URLs) overflow columns), Critical, Fix Committed, jamesh [01:19] Malone bug 929 in launchpad "Long words (such as URLs) overflow columns" [Critical,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/929 [01:19] SteveA, should it be a policy that Critical means "important enough to be cherrypicked as soon as it's fixed"? [01:19] no [01:19] mpt, bug 929 is blocked [01:19] blocked? [01:19] it's fixed and the cherrypicked was requested [01:20] 929 couldn't be cherrypicked, since the rev depended on some previous ones [01:20] (test fixes) [01:20] but it's blocked on landing a big support tracker patch before [01:20] it should be policy that Critical means "important enough to dsicuss cherrypicking of it with stuart and/or me+kiko" [01:20] critical means "drop whatever you're doing and fix it godamnit" [01:20] ok. [01:20] * Bug #2497 (/people/*/+translations times out for prolific translators), Critical, Fix Committed, kiko [01:20] Malone bug 2497 in rosetta "/people/*/+translations times out for prolific translators" [Critical,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/2497 [01:20] * Bug #30602 (Timeout errors in +translate), Critical, In Progress, kiko [01:20] kiko-zzz isn't here [01:20] Malone bug 30602 in rosetta "Timeout errors in +translate" [Critical,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/30602 [01:20] it'll be in the next rollout though [01:20] * Bug #44214 (We need to add code to prevent POFiles being in the same path), Critical, In Progress, carlos [01:20] * Bug #46982 (Rosetta does not accept correct KDE plural forms when there are more than 2), Critical, Confirmed, carlos [01:20] * Bug #68014 (Rosetta reverts translation fixes to old faulty values), Critical, In Progress, carlos [01:20] * Bug #70141 (ubuntu-docs templates are gone), Critical, Confirmed, carlos [01:20] Malone bug 44214 in rosetta "We need to add code to prevent POFiles being in the same path" [Critical,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/44214 [01:20] carlos isn't here [01:20] Malone bug 46982 in rosetta "Rosetta does not accept correct KDE plural forms when there are more than 2" [Critical,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/46982 [01:20] Malone bug 68014 in rosetta "Rosetta reverts translation fixes to old faulty values" [Critical,In progress] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68014 [01:20] Malone bug 70141 in rosetta "ubuntu-docs templates are gone" [Critical,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/70141 [01:20] * Bug #48948 (dapper indices files still being regenerated but shouldn't be), Critical, Confirmed, malcc, who's not here [01:20] Malone bug 48948 in soyuz "dapper indices files still being regenerated but shouldn't be" [Critical,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/48948 [01:21] * Bug #56618 (Milestone restrictions are too restrictive for Ubuntu), Critical, Fix Committed, bradb [01:21] * Bug #64017 (Setting a bug confidential after its creation creates a ghost bug), Fix Committed, bradb [01:21] * Bug #66562 (BugSubscriberPortletView.getSubscribersFromDupes seems to cause timeouts), Critical, Fix Committed, bradb [01:21] BjornT isn't here to decide which of those need cherrypicks [01:21] matsubara: I want to say a few things about critical bugs after mpt is done. [01:21] Malone bug 56618 in malone "Milestone restrictions are too restrictive for Ubuntu" [Critical,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/56618 [01:21] Malone bug 64017 in launchpad "Setting a bug confidential after its creation creates a ghost bug" [Critical,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/64017 [01:21] Malone bug 66562 in malone "BugSubscriberPortletView.getSubscribersFromDupes seems to cause timeouts" [Critical,Fix committed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66562 [01:21] and finally [01:21] * Bug #66383 (private), Critical, In Progress, ddaa [01:21] Bug 66383 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/66383 is private [01:21] yes, Ubugtu, we know [01:22] ddaa, tell us about progress on 66383 :-) [01:22] mpt: mh... that one needs discussion... there's a quick fix in review, but it does not affect the UI [01:22] ddaa, so make a note to discuss it next week? [01:22] and I'm not entirely clear yet on how the UI should be extended to handle the problem [01:23] all right [01:23] well... discussion here mostly means "I mean to sit down and figure it out" [01:23] ok [01:23] That's all from me, thanks matsubara, over to SteveA [01:23] I'd rather avoid bikesheddinh unless I really need input. [01:23] thanks mpt [01:24] The process for getting a bugfix cherrypicked looks like this: [01:24] - If the bug is critical, fix the bug, then ask Stuart if it can be [01:24] cherrypicked. Write as a comment in the bug report why it deserves [01:24] to be cherrypicked. [01:24] - If the bug is not critical, don't even discuss getting it cherrypicked. [01:24] If you think it needs to be cherrypicked, then you need to make the [01:24] bug "critical", the same as you would get the importance set on any other [01:24]