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[10:40] cbx33, think so [10:43] depends how much of xubuntu-desktop you want. [10:43] I normally use just 'xfce4' [10:43] that way it doesn't remove some of the gnome-specific things [10:51] ok it didn;'t say it had removed any pacakges [10:51] which is good i suppose [10:51] brb === cbx33 [n=c2df514b@84-45-197-14.no-dns-yet.enta.net] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@137.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=greatwhi@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-144-142-39.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === ulinskie [n=cutemedz@203.111.235.144] has joined #edubuntu [01:13] http://thinkature.com === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.51.188.77] has joined #edubuntu [01:56] hi [01:58] hello there === stelis [n=se@82-71-4-26.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === sruiz [n=chatzill@66.244.123.100] has joined #edubuntu === sruiz is now known as SimonAnibal === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #edubuntu [03:29] Heya [03:30] Hi [03:30] It's a bit empty and echoey in here today [03:31] Aye, apparently :-) [03:32] heh [03:32] I guess that the weather's nice in California [03:32] it'll get chatty next week [03:33] its still pretty early on their side === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === bronze [n=Lester@c-71-233-244-55.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@201.248.239.219] has joined #edubuntu === jsgotangco [n=greatwhi@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #edubuntu [04:46] j to the s to go to the tangco [04:47] hehe [04:47] this is the UDS that i have no idea what has been happenning [04:47] it seems to be very very productive but i feel isolated lately [04:52] hi all [04:52] hey [04:53] highvoltage: are you busy? [04:53] jsgotangco: hectically so [04:53] there is a guy in germany who think about to write is master about edubuntu and education software under linux;) [04:53] oh ok, i was thinking of calling you up [04:53] jsgotangco: we're releasing our first public release of tuxlab next week [04:54] gimme your number let's talk this weekend [04:54] 078 108 2588 [04:54] ugh, sorry.. [04:54] +27 78 108 2588 [04:54] there [04:55] is this mobile? does it do sms? [04:56] yes, it does sms [04:56] alright i'll just sms you first and ask if you're free and then i'll call [04:57] ok, great. I should be free for call most of the weekend, although I want to get to the gym for a change, so that would be the only time i won't be taking calls === highvoltage still wonders what jsgotangco posted him === fumbalah [i=brett@unaffiliated/fumbalah] has joined #edubuntu [04:58] oh it'll com [04:59] muhahah [04:59] jsgotangco is obviously not familiar with the SA postal service :) [05:02] http://www.tangent.com/news/hecc2006/ <- A conference I'm going to...Wow... [05:06] hecc that's nice ;) [05:08] im gonna sleep [05:08] ciao [05:16] willvdl: tangent.com? :) [05:16] not me ;) [05:16] willvdl: that's quite strange eh? [05:16] aaah I see === highvoltage went a bit cross-eyed there [05:29] HECC [05:29] is Hoosier Educational Computing Conference or something [05:29] it's a conference for Technology People in Education here in Indiana === netjoined: irc.freenode.net -> brown.freenode.net === jbrefort [n=jean@lns-bzn-59-82-252-165-189.adsl.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=herman@ubuntu/member/spacey] has joined #edubuntu === fumbalah [i=brett@unaffiliated/fumbalah] has joined #edubuntu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #edubuntu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === moquist [n=moquist@pool-70-20-57-230.man.east.verizon.net] has joined #edubuntu === whiprush [n=jorge@2001:5c0:8fff:fffe:0:0:0:2fad] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === cafuego [n=cafuego@ppp81-20.lns2.mel3.internode.on.net] has joined #edubuntu === FunnyLookinHat [n=david@64.140.73.93] has joined #edubuntu === ace [n=ace@fupi.suares.an] has joined #edubuntu === Kamping_Kaiser [n=kgoetz@easyubuntu/docteam/kgoetz] has joined #edubuntu === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #edubuntu === bronze [n=Lester@c-71-233-244-55.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === stelis [n=se@82-71-4-26.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #edubuntu === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.51.188.77] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.121.86.9] has joined #edubuntu === jonathan_ [n=jonathan@196.1.57.78] has joined #edubuntu === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch] has joined #edubuntu === RichEd [i=richard@conference/ubuntuconf/x-1b9799bb13893870] has joined #edubuntu === rodarvus [i=rodarvus@ubuntu/member/rodarvus] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [i=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [i=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #edubuntu === willvdl [n=Will@vc-196-207-41-253.3g.vodacom.co.za] has joined #edubuntu [06:02] Can anyone think up a nice blurb/phrase for an Edubuntu poster? [06:03] Educational Computing for Human Beings [06:03] *shrug* [06:03] willvdl: Is there a target audience? [06:04] e.g. Primary ed, secondary ed, teachers? [06:04] going into a high school, but should be a generic audience [06:04] the linux for human beings line is good but needs an edubuntu tinge to it [06:06] I admit that that the "Linux" part of slogan bothers me slightly...linux is a technical detail [06:07] yeah but the psoter is advertising edubuntu which is an Ubuntu variant [06:08] willvdl: you know those "don't be a fool, stay in school", well how about "don't be a fool, get edubuntu", it is corny, silly, half way e.tarded, but it does rhyme just a little bit ;) [06:08] don't be a noonoo, get edubuntu [06:09] whatever a noonoo is, im almost affraid to ask [06:09] hehe [06:09] the blurbs we have on "about edubuntu" are too long-winded for a poster [06:10] Edubuntu: Freely control your education [06:10] "All that you need" [06:10] I like the fact that it gives you basically everything straight out of the box [06:10] what is the hot show for highschoolers these days? [06:11] what makes them little jerks go "oooh" and "aaaah" besides their inflamed hormones? [06:11] haha [06:11] Beryl or Compiz [06:11] hahahaha [06:11] "Pretty is a Feature" [06:11] SimonAnibal: i hate to admit, but i am seeing that with my loco [06:11] You could have the poster be a 3-d cube of the Edubuntu desktop running various apps [06:12] that would be cool [06:12] I thought it was overated until I actually saw it [06:12] nodnod, it is pretty impressive [06:12] it is over rated once you use it [06:12] The poster layout is already designed etc. by canonical. [06:12] based on the cd covers [06:12] yeah, but the discovery of it is exciting [06:12] I just have to add current screenshots, some blurbs under the screenshots [06:13] after using it for a while you go "hum dee dum", but the first few times it's like "Whoah! That's fun!" [06:13] and some kind of eye-catching master phrase by the logo which has me stumped :/ [06:13] I guess the important is that Edubuntu just works, without having to worry about the system falling over, or getting viruses [06:13] "just use it" [06:13] Yeah :) [06:14] eish. who knew that lots of hard work can make you this tired? :) [06:14] Nike wouldn't like it, something along those lines sounds right to me [06:14] (Though) [06:14] highvoltage: Some mysteries are never to be grokked [06:15] :) [06:15] "Freedom in Educational Computing, that works" [06:15] stelis, agreed but I'd like to add an "Education" tinge to it somehow [06:16] Learn the New Way [06:16] New sounds Unstable [06:16] this is Limpopo...there is no Old Way :) [06:16] hahaha [06:17] I was thinking of rows of Win98 desktops === sbalneav [i=sbalneav@conference/ubuntuconf/x-d6813a4f2b654779] has joined #edubuntu [06:17] What about something along the lines of "Edubuntu: Free your education" [06:18] Oooo [06:18] I like [06:18] Okie, "free" or "freedom" is definatel something to include. === Amaranth [i=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [06:18] Edubuntu: the World is Open [06:18] Open up you Education [06:19] Freedom to learn... [06:20] Freedom in Education [06:20] Connect to a World of Free & Open Education [06:20] Learn without Limits [06:20] Oooo, I like Learn without Limits, too [06:21] Thinking about it, I like the word "Learn" more than "Teach", or "Education" [06:21] The problem is that not all the content/curriculum is provided for free [06:21] but the platform is [06:21] moot point [06:22] Well, but the simple act of accepting Edubuntu brings them to a world where there IS free and open content [06:22] As opposed to where they are right now [06:22] most of them [06:22] It's opening a possibility [06:22] It's showing a "Better Way"(tm) [06:22] I guess I was thinking about the freedom to access the Internet, without fear. [06:22] :) Is that cheesy [06:22] ? [06:23] stelis, agree with "learn" rather than "education" [06:23] stelis, connectivity is a seperate issue [06:23] I suppose so [06:24] where these posters are going, there is little BW [06:24] okay, "freedom", "learn"... what else can we throw in the mix? [06:24] BW? [06:24] bandwidth? [06:24] bandwidth [06:24] OK. I guess it would be interesting to know what they hope to gain from using computers [06:25] nodnod [06:25] "Free Your Mind, Neo" [06:25] exposure to ICT [06:25] "And You Will Free Your Learning" [06:25] ICT enhanced educational delivery [06:25] where there previously was none [06:25] SimonAnibal: that last one is interesting :) [06:26] So being "modern" is important here? [06:26] brb [06:26] stelis, not too sure really [06:26] want to keep it "generic" if that helps? [06:27] "Free your Learning"? Simple, sweet & memorable [06:27] I'm genuinely unsure what the killer app for a computer without connectivity is, if you see what I mean [06:27] limited connectivity [06:27] That totally depends on the goals of the community [06:27] Open the Door [06:27] where we pop loads of offline media onto it [06:28] stelis: in areas where there is close to no computing at all, even something as simple as a simple word processor is a killer app [06:28] Edubuntu is a base platform upon which to build functionality, it's a means not an end [06:28] stelis, the killer app is learning to use the thing [06:28] edubuntu is a great base to build on though [06:28] agree with highvoltage [06:28] DEFINATELY [06:28] we digress :) [06:28] yeah, I agree with willvdl too :) [06:28] I wouldn't be here otherwise [06:29] errrrr definItely [06:29] I always do that... [06:29] Which is strange considering I come from Spanish [06:29] and it would be definitivamente [06:29] so I can't blame that [06:29] sorry, don't mean to drag the context of the poster into it. Just looking for a nice generic blurb [06:30] the "free your learning" is interesting but sounds funny :) [06:30] "Freedom to Learn" [06:30] Which is a freedom that proprietary software denies [06:30] "Start Here. Learn to Go Anywhere" [06:30] Doesn't sound quite right [06:31] "Freedom to Learn, Freedom to Explore" [06:31] "What do you want to Learn today?" :-P [06:31] I am unilaterally not endorsing what I just said, btw [06:31] "A computer on every desktop" :) [06:31] *cough* [06:32] That's our goal here, with Indiana ACCESS [06:33] highvoltage, do you think "Freedom to LEarn" might be too _political_ for Limpopo? === Amaranth [i=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu [06:35] I gotto run. Thanks folks, I think this is something we can thrash out again in future [06:35] Fortunately, this is only for 6 posters [06:37] willvdl: If you drop a mail on the list then people could chew on it for a bit [06:37] definately [06:37] (If time permits) [06:37] but I'll go with a "freedom to learn" idea or "opening education" [06:38] Opening education sounds very close to it [06:38] seem to be the most popular ideas suggested [06:39] Thanks a million people. I'm very late :) chat later. [06:39] willvdl: l8r === lguerra [n=lguerra@201.245.166.237] has joined #edubuntu === Amaranth [i=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=jonathan@196.1.61.13] has joined #edubuntu === LaserJock is now known as Laser_away === tux [n=tux@M464d.m.pppool.de] has joined #edubuntu === Seveas [i=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu === ogra [i=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMage [n=HedgeMag@ubuntu/member/hedgemage] has joined #edubuntu === edubuntugirl [n=edubuntu@ubuntu/bot/edubuntugirl] has joined #edubuntu === stelis [n=se@82-71-4-26.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has left #edubuntu [] === Loculi [n=erussell@cerberus.fls-inc.com] has joined #edubuntu [09:08] Hi, I was wondering if there was someone here I could bounce a couple of questions off re: contributing content to EduBuntu [09:09] What do you mean by content? === happy-and-lost [n=jo@host86-145-91-86.range86-145.btcentralplus.com] has joined #edubuntu [09:10] well, educational application(s) or something perhaps like a Flash framegame [09:11] :) Well, to be included directly with Edubuntu it would need to be in a format that could be run out of the box, I'd guess [09:11] I work for a company that creates educational software, and was interested in seeing how we might be able to release something under open source to contribute to EduBuntu [09:11] What type of install does the EduEdgy CD provide? [09:11] a free format, or something that works with the default edubuntu settings [09:11] But don't quote me, I'm just stating what I assume [09:11] I see, yeah the bulk of our applications are flash based [09:12] You'd still be useful to the education community, I'm sure, but reading flash requires non-free stuff right now [09:12] I think I'll jump onto one of the mailing lists, see what I can discover :) [09:12] Maybe if Gnash can play them... [09:12] yeah, was just thinking about how Adobe is finally beginning to open it up [09:13] You should look up the Gnash project and see how far along they are compared to your content [09:13] not sure if it's premature though to start thinking along these lines but thought I'd check nonetheless [09:13] Last I heard they could do most everything besides the movie content [09:13] But my advice is to try it out and see for yourself [09:13] cool thanks for the tip [09:14] happy-and-lost, could you rephrase the question ? [09:14] :) We appreciate your enthusiasm to help out, though [09:14] er, not though, we just do [09:14] basically I was just trying to come up w/ some ideas on how our company might be able to contribute, we've got so many apps :P [09:14] thanks again [09:14] Might I suggest running that by RichEd [09:15] Is the EduEdgy CD text or graphical install? [09:15] you can probably private message him about it, I think he might be interested in what you're proposing [09:15] I believe all Edgy CDs besides the Alternative CDs are Live CD installs. I could be wrong. [09:15] nice thanks, now to see how GAIM handles private tells ;) [09:15] happy-and-lost, the one we ship is the text install ... but you can download the liveCD that has a geaphical install (but only installs a workstation setup) [09:15] try "/msg Nickname Message" [09:16] :) ogra is the man to trust on this [09:17] So when it says that Edu live doesn't contain server elements... will it still be able to browse and access Windows shares via samba? === Loculi [n=erussell@cerberus.fls-inc.com] has left #edubuntu [] === ogra [i=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu [09:20] happy-and-lost: the Edgy live cd can't install an Edubuntu LTSP server [09:20] happy-and-lost: but it installs a classical edubuntu workstation [09:20] with everything [09:20] Thanks, that's what I'm after === HedgeMag1 [n=HedgeMag@c-71-197-181-95.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #edubuntu === Laser_away is now known as LaserJock === ogra [i=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === pygi [n=mario@83-131-20-157.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #edubuntu === pips1 [n=philipp@68.154.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #edubuntu [10:44] edubuntugirl: tell RichEd I sent you a mail with notes on building a community website [10:44] Righto, pips1! [10:44] thanks and bye bye [10:44] :) [10:45] edubuntugirl [10:45] RichEd: by the way, pips1 told me to tell you 'I sent you a mail with notes on building a community website' 53 seconds ago (on Fri Nov 10 23:43:30 2006) [10:45] cool === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #edubuntu [11:03] Anyone around knows a little about packaging ? [11:04] I followed the packaging guide but I have a small problem when finally generating the .deb [11:04] dpkg-deb: building package `pastebinit' in `../pastebinit_0.0.1-1_all.deb'. [11:04] tar: -: file name read contains nul character dpkg-genchanges [11:12] stgraber: did it error out? [11:13] I'm not sure that that would be a problem === highvoltage [n=jonathan@196.1.61.13] has joined #edubuntu [11:13] no deb are generated ... [11:13] do you know that? [11:13] how are you building them? pbuilder? [11:14] yes [11:14] oo, I have found them (or I think at least ...) [11:14] so you looked in /var/cache/pbuilder/result/ [11:15] nope, and that was the problem :) I just did a *.deb search on my home directory not on the whole system :) [11:15] btw, it should be precised in the packaging guide [11:15] (or I didn't read it correctly) [11:16] I thought I clarified that :/ === LaserJock goes to check [11:16] stgraber: where are you reading the packaging guide from? [11:17] the one installed with Edgy [11:17] yeah, there is this, "The resulting .debs and source packages can be found in /var/cache/pbuilder/result/ (which can be changed with the --buildresult flag)." [11:18] maybe I should put it in a warning box :-) [11:18] you certainly aren't the first person to run across that === stgraber still didn't find on which page this indication is :) [11:20] https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/packagingguide/C/gs-pbuilder.html [11:21] in the Using pbuilder section [11:22] ok, maybe writing it once again in the "Packaging with Debhelper" could be useful [11:23] hmm, good point [11:23] they are a bit far removed === LaserJock makes a note === Nix [n=ivani@200.212.122.130] has joined #edubuntu [11:24] hello! :) [11:25] hi [11:25] I'm searching of software of the crosswords that run web [11:25] stgraber, hi! :) === Seveas [i=seveas@conference/ubuntuconf/x-9e14082f30836e4d] has joined #edubuntu [11:27] I have a maker crosswords, but this program show error... so, I'm finding a new solution... [11:28] sorry... my English isn't very good :( [11:31] Are you looking for a crossword generator that generates a webbased crossword, or a webbased crossword generator ? [11:32] stgraber, I looking a crossword generator a webbased :) [11:32] LaserJock: oh, and I forgot thank you :) [11:32] np [11:35] stgraber, I found a software, in this site http://www.tesol.net/scripts/ [11:36] but the program does not function correctly === leManu [n=lemanu@82.232.131.128] has joined #edubuntu === HedgeMag1 is now known as HedgeMage [11:49] hey HedgeMage [11:49] stgraber, thank you... I need to leave now [11:49] kisses and hughes for all :* [11:52] hi pygi [12:10] hey pgyi and HedgeMage :) [12:15] hi RichEd :)