[12:11] <lucky_> but I got linux (me neeb)
[12:11] <lucky_> oops
[12:11] <lucky_> ya see
[12:11] <lucky_> I dont get any of this
[12:12] <lucky_> im such a noob
[12:12] <Kheldoron> hehe.. i hardly do either
[12:12] <lucky_> you seem like you know alot
[12:12] <zodiak> Kheldoron: what do you need?
[12:13] <caraquer> HI, somebody has installed the openofiice in kubuntu 64??
[12:13] <lupine_85> it works fine
[12:13] <lupine_85> should be installed ootb actually
[12:13] <zodiak> It comes by default with edgy.
[12:13] <lucky_> no to be rude or some rapist or somthin but how old r you guys?
[12:13] <Kheldoron> zodiak: well.. the networkcard seems to be working fine. but i cant find where to enter wep and where i can choose wich network to connect to
[12:13] <caraquer> I have 6.06
[12:14] <zodiak> KHeldoron:  Are you using Gnome or KDE?
[12:14] <Kheldoron> skde
[12:14] <Kheldoron> kde
[12:14] <zodiak> use knetworkmanager
[12:14] <lucky_> any one want to answer my noobish question?
[12:14] <zodiak> It is AWESOME.  IT will store your WEP/WPA info in kwallet (I use blank password for kwallet, that way I don't get prompted).
[12:14] <caraquer> KDE
[12:14] <Kheldoron> ok.. ill try it.. be back soon..
[12:14] <zodiak> lucky_ what is your question?
[12:15] <lucky_> how old r u guys
[12:15] <jobless__> Digital_Pioneer .. i got some help there ..! thanks a lot
[12:15] <zodiak> lucky_  I hardly see why it matters.  That has nothing to do with the channel topic and/or purpose.
[12:15] <Digital_Pioneer> jobless__: Sure, LOL. I didn't do anything. :)
[12:15] <lucky_> well exactly its a noobish question....
[12:15] <zodiak> Some of the best help I have ever gotten was from 12 year olds who have been plugging away with linux....
[12:16] <caraquer> What i need install for run openoffice in kubuntu 64 6.06??
[12:16] <lucky_> I just want to know so im not talking to some rapist...
[12:16] <gnomefreak> caraquer: install openoffice.org
[12:17] <lucky_> so I just got linux a week ago I think and I want to know if they have a sims 2 for linux.
[12:17] <zodiak> caraquer: in console type sudo apt-get install openoffice.org
[12:17] <bobbyd> lucky_: you may need to look at wine or cedega
[12:18] <bobbyd> lucky_: and, um, I'm not a rapist
[12:18] <lucky_> never said you were
[12:18] <lucky_> but whats Wine or Cedega?
[12:18] <bobbyd> lucky_: :)
[12:19] <lupine_85> lucky_: no sims2 for linux, and neither wine or cedega work. sorry
[12:19] <lupine_85> sims 1 works
[12:19] <lucky_> oh
[12:19] <bobbyd> lucky_: wine is an API layer to allow linux to run windows apps, cedega is a commercial project that uses the wine code and adds better directX compatibility
[12:19] <lucky_> well i heard about this thing....
[12:20] <lucky_> that you can use to run windows kinda on top of linux
[12:20] <steveire> lupine_85: How do I use poll to check files?
[12:20] <steveire> I don't have any executable called poll
[12:21] <ml2> to make the most use of wine, one need a windows license for the device, where wine is running on
[12:21] <lupine_85> it's a method, not an executable. You'd write a bash script to implement the principle
[12:21] <ml2> most forget this
[12:21] <lupine_85> windows--
[12:21] <lucky_> ok i dont get a word oyu said
[12:21] <lupine_85> lucky_: wine pretends to be windows
[12:21] <lucky_> oh i geti t
[12:22] <lucky_> so can i run the sims on that?
[12:22] <lupine_85> no
[12:22] <lupine_85> VMWare will let you run (real) windows in linux, but there's no 3D hardware support to speak of
[12:22] <lucky_> i see...
[12:23] <lucky_> well i just have to run it on a computer that orgianlly has windows
[12:23] <ml2> there is limited 3D support for a guest os
[12:23] <ml2> it's coming
[12:23] <lupine_85> not enough to get sims 2 running, I bet ;)
[12:24] <ml2> cedega should be able to get it running
[12:24] <ml2> transgaming
[12:24] <lucky_> I put this new hardrive in cant remeber what it is but I have 300 GB now um what exactly can I download on linux that could enable me to lets see have a substitute for it
[12:24] <nkRush> how do I get konversation to start minimized to the tray?
[12:24] <steveire> lupine_85: Cheers. Looks like I can use this if I can figure it out.
[12:24] <steveire> http://docs.python.org/lib/module-select.html
[12:25] <lucky_> (the sims 2)
[12:25] <ubuntu__> Hola a to2
[12:27] <Chousuke> oh no. foreign leetspeak :(
[12:27] <lupine_85> lucky_: there isn't really anything AFAIK
[12:27] <Chousuke> ubuntu__: english only, please.
[12:27] <hollywoodb> !es | ubuntu__
[12:27] <ubotu> ubuntu__: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[12:30] <letalis> lucky_: there isnt a port of sims 2 for linux
[12:31] <letalis> it doesnt run on cedega primarily because of the way sims 2 probes the video hardware
[12:32] <letalis> until transgaming gets cedega to where it can 'trick' sims 2's probing procedure im afraid sims 2 will not function
[12:35] <ml2> letalis: transgaming is working with game developers to make even copy protection work on linux
[12:35] <ml2> that means, you need an original sims2 game cd
[12:36] <letalis> i have the collectors edition
[12:36] <letalis> and i read a post by a developer at cedega
[12:36] <letalis> stating why it doesnt work
[12:37] <letalis> and it makes sense, sims 2 probes the hardware at startup to find an optimal configuration, since cedega is tricking the system into thinking its something its not sims 2 blows chunks and dies.
[12:37] <letalis> :)
[12:37] <letalis> thus you get a garbled screen when it loads up
[12:38] <letalis> most copy protections work in cedega sincethe 5.x series
[12:38] <letalis> thats not the issue
[12:41] <ml2> ahh, ich seh schon
[12:41] <ml2> ist ne komplexeres problem
[12:41] <ml2> da hilft nur windows nutzen fr sims 2
[12:42] <ml2> und zwar win2k oder xp
[12:42] <ml2> zumal die ati treiber unter windows viel schneller sind als unter linux
[12:42] <ml2> oops, I forgot, this was an english channel
[12:42] <BluesKaj> !de
[12:42] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[12:43] <letalis> lol
[12:43] <BluesKaj> !nl
[12:43] <ubotu> Nederlandstalige ondersteuning voor Ubuntu (en vers gezette koffie) is te vinden in #ubuntu-nl
[12:44] <BluesKaj> :)
[12:44] <BluesKaj> that should cover it
[12:44] <ml2> ahh, I see. it is a more complex problem. only win2k or xp works with sims 2. particularly ati the drivers help to use under windows are many faster than under linux
[12:44] <ml2> more or less well translated
[12:45] <letalis> well the probe is a hardware probe
[12:45] <ml2> BluesKaj: it's that in my memory, there is no flag for the language
[12:45] <letalis> since cedega doesnt allow direct access to the card as its a directx to opengl translation layer it doesnt know what to do with what it gets from the hardware probe
[12:46] <BluesKaj> not really ml2, the fglrx ati driver works very well
[12:46] <ml2> it's woven and the memory changes between german and english, i cannot remember the language spoken or written
[12:46] <BluesKaj> :)
[12:48] <osh_> how do I update katapult so it sees newly installed applications?
[12:50] <gnomefreak> osh_: restart it?
[12:51] <osh_> gnomefreak: unfortunatly not. :-/
[12:51] <gnomefreak> thats odd
[12:52] <osh_> gnomefreak: I thought so too. Or perhaps it just won't start gnome-apps like workrave. A bit of KDE vs Gnome rivalry there...
[12:52] <gnomefreak> osh_: it might only work with qt apps
[12:53] <hollywoodb> osh_: katapult isn't very intelligent to begin with... no matter how I try to get it to launch firefox it insists on launching this "Customize Firefox" page
[12:53] <osh_> hollywoodb: yep. use "web" to start firefox... =)
[12:54] <osh_> gnomefreak: Well, I don't think so. Firefox works...
[12:54] <osh_> gnomefreak: That's pretty tightly knit to gnome I think.
[12:54] <osh_> gnomefreak: or the gnome libs anyway.
[12:55] <osh_> hollywoodb: I. That's what I was going to say _I_ use "web" to start firefox.
[01:03] <nkRush> what's the proper way to install flash on kubuntu, via adept or directly in firefox?
[01:03] <h3sp4wn> nkRush: if you want flash9 you need to do it manually
[01:03] <gnomefreak> h3sp4wn: nope theres repo
[01:03] <gnomefreak> !flash9
[01:03] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> I don't like anything from repos other than the 4 official ones
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> (pretty easy to do it manually)
[01:04] <h3sp4wn> - I suppose w32codecs I have but that is it
[01:04] <nkRush> well, if I do it manually will it be able to update itself?
[01:06] <h3sp4wn> No
[01:08] <letalis> source baby.
[01:08] <letalis> :D
[01:09] <hollywoodb> anyone having seveas repo working for edgy?  I can search it and such, but when I try to actually *use* it to fetch & install a package I get "403 forbidden"
[01:12] <nkRush> the flash package just installed fine
[01:13] <hollywoodb> I guess Seveas doesn't like me :)
[01:14] <nkRush> hmm ^^
[01:18] <weedar> My bar disappeared! The one with the K on it
[01:19] <weedar> how do I get it back? I can alt+tab but that gets old fast
[01:20] <steveire> weedar: alt+f2 and type kicker
[01:23] <Alter-Ego> ACPT Compliant - what is this ?
[01:24] <weedar> steveire: thanks!
[01:24] <hollywoodb> Alter-Ego: acpi or acpt ?
[01:26] <Alter-Ego> acpt
[01:26] <Alter-Ego> weedar: odd, i had the same problem with edgy a week ago
[01:26] <Alter-Ego> then my installation borked
[01:26] <Jucato> when was the nvidia-glx update made available?
[01:28] <Jucato> hm.. Hawkwind: ping ?
[01:29] <Jucato> how do I downgrade a package to previous version? the nvidia-glx update kinda messed up
[01:32] <lucky_> so I just downloaded GIMP and have no idea how to use it? can anyone give me quick walk through
[01:33] <Jucato> lucky_: just install it from the repositories (Adept, or apt-get) and once it's installed, you can launch it from the K Menu
[01:33] <lucky_> I went to the add and remove programs is that ok?
[01:34] <Jucato> yep
[01:34] <Jucato> abattoir: ping
[01:34] <lucky_> good so how do I use it now
[01:35] <Jucato> lucky_: launch it from the K Menu -> Graphics sub-menu
[01:35] <lucky_> I am allready there I mean really how to work it you know make stuff
[01:36] <nkRush> oh boy =D
[01:36] <Jucato> ah, well, that's beyond what we cover here. there are lots of onlinu tutorials for the GIMP
[01:36] <Jucato> I think there's also a #gimp channel, not exactly sure
[01:36] <lucky_> eh...
[01:36] <lucky_> oh
[01:37] <coreymon77> yes there is
[01:37] <coreymon77> but its unofficial
[01:37] <Jucato> oh
[01:37] <coreymon77> the official one is on irc.gimp.org
[01:37] <lucky_> i made a horse
[01:37] <Jucato> coreymon77: where does that server connect to? I believe it just redirects to some other server
[01:38] <Jucato> just like irc.ubuntu.com redirects to irc.freenode.net
[01:38] <coreymon77> connect to irc.gimp.org
[01:38] <coreymon77> i think its gimps own thing
[01:38] <Jucato> hm...
[01:38] <lucky_> im confuzzled
[01:38] <lucky_> you cant stay on the same subject for so long well fo you people you can...
[01:39] <hollywoodb> lucky_: there are lots of GIMP tutorials, just google
[01:39] <coreymon77> so go on to #gimp on freenode
[01:39] <coreymon77> and they will give you all the instructions
[01:39] <lucky_> ok tried that
[01:39] <lucky_> nothing
[01:40] <lucky_> its lagging
[01:41] <Jucato> lucky_: well, this it #kubuntu, a support channel for specific Kubuntu problems, not for how to use the GIMP
[01:41] <lucky_> i see...
[01:42] <lucky_> so this may be a little of subject but where can i find chatrooms with differents subjects like black history
[01:42] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Pong :)
[01:43] <Jucato> heheh
[01:43] <Hawkwind> lucky_: /msg chanserv list *search-term*
[01:43] <Hawkwind> lucky_: Make sure you use the *'s and replace search-term appropriately
[01:43] <Jucato> Hawkwind: how do I downgrade to an earlier version of a package?
[01:43] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Hmmmm, probably have to do apt-pinning
[01:43] <lucky_> where do i put the text?
[01:44] <Hawkwind> lucky_: Between the * *'s
[01:44] <Jucato> Hawkwind: a security update for nvidia-glx was made available, but I can't run X anymore after updating... :(
[01:44] <Hawkwind> lucky_: /msg chanserv list *black*  <~~~Example
[01:44] <Jucato> wb abattoir
[01:44] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Ahhhh, that's why I use the drivers directly from nvidia.com :)
[01:44] <lucky_> so confuzzled
[01:44] <Hawkwind> Jucato: You could remove it, and install it manually
[01:44] <Jucato> Hawkwind: but disable edgy-security repos?
[01:44] <lucky_> but I clicked on my user name and I made some kind of tab...
[01:45] <Jucato> linux-restricted-modules was also updated, would that be a problem?
[01:45] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Probably
[01:45] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Possibly so, yes
[01:45] <Jucato> ouch...
[01:46] <hollywoodb> when did google/ask.com/dogpile/yahoo/excite/msn/infoseek/altavista/vivismo/metacrawler/lycos/webcrawler/alltheweb/profusion go down?
[01:46] <Jucato> Hawkwind: ok this is plain weird...
[01:46] <Jucato> hold on...
[01:46] <lucky_> any one wanna answer my question?
[01:47] <Hawkwind> lucky_: I've missed your question relating to Kubuntu
[01:47] <lucky_> well actually it has to do with the chatroom I made i clicked on my name and it made a extra tab
[01:48] <Jucato> lucky_: that extra tab is a private message window. basically you PM'ed yourself
[01:48] <nkRush> [01:44:03]  <Jucato> Hawkwind: a security update for nvidia-glx was made available, but I can't run X anymore after updating... :( << check your xorg.conf device section against a backup (if you have ;), it screwed up the busid for me by switching two numbers
[01:48] <lucky_> thats just peachy...
[01:48] <lucky_> how do i make it dissapear
[01:49] <Jucato> lucky_: you can close it. right-click on the tab and select close or press Ctrl+W
[01:49] <lucky_> oh
[01:49] <lucky_> (Im such a noob)
[01:50] <lucky_> well anyway...im gonna go I dont understand this computer talk so I'm going to some chatroom to argue with the locals about amendment 2 or black history bye.
[01:50] <Jucato> nkRush, Hawkwind: something strange. I removed nvidia-glx and tried to install it again (edgy-security still enabled), now it wants to install linux-image- and linux-restricted-modules- 2.6.17-10-386. It didn't do so earlier during the update/dist-upgrade...
[01:51] <Jucato> besides, I'm using the -generic stuff... let's see what happens...
[01:52] <Jucato> this is not a great way to start the day :P
[01:52] <nkRush> and that's the point where I put on a clean edgy install =P
[01:52] <Jucato> lol
[01:52] <hollywoodb> the 'nv' driver is significantly less hassle
[01:53] <Jucato> nkRush: if it doesn't work, all I want to do is to revert to the earlier version of nvidia-glx
[01:53] <Jucato> hollywoodb: no 3D h/w acceleration though...
[01:53] <hollywoodb> Jucato: nope... clean and simple, like it should be!
[01:53] <hollywoodb> Jucato: in my day we were happy to have an X server! TWM was just icing on the cake!
[01:54] <Jucato> hollywoodb: "like it should be!" - tell that to someone who needs to do graphics and 3D work
[01:54] <hollywoodb> heh
[01:54] <Jucato> hollywoodb: believe me, I wouldn't be installing nvidia-glx if I didn't need to. or if nv has 3D h/w acceleration in the first place...
[01:55] <Jucato> hm... brb... quick breakfast... (
[01:55] <simmerz> I've just installed edgy on my laptop, and I'm trying to get my netgear wg511t card (ath_pci) working. Its found the card, and loaded the modules, but for some reason, I can't get it to do anything with the wireless assistant. any ideas?
[02:01] <hollywoodb> simmerz: wireless assistant is kinda broken
[02:02] <simmerz> hollywoodb: ok. I've just tried to restart /etc/init.d/networking and it can't find the ath0 device.
[02:03] <BluesKaj> can anyone tell me the procedure to setup a network sharing files with a windos pc ?...already have the network printer setup
[02:03] <win2lin> I can't mount a CD in my DVD drive in Edgy
[02:03] <hollywoodb> simmerz: madwifi?
[02:04] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: which way do you want to go. Connect linux to windows or windows to linux
[02:04] <simmerz> hollywoodb: can i install it off the livecd?
[02:04] <BluesKaj> both, robotgeek
[02:04] <hollywoodb> simmerz: doubt it
[02:04] <hollywoodb> simmerz: is it madwifi driver?
[02:04] <simmerz> hollywoodb: apparently, although ath_pci is loaded.
[02:05] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: you can connect to a windows share from linux, or setup a samba (windows) share on linux.
[02:05] <hollywoodb> simmerz: there's a few madwifi howto's on the forums... I haven't dealt with madwifi on debian/ubuntu myself
[02:05] <BluesKaj> lets start with linux to windows , robotgeek
[02:06] <simmerz> ok
[02:06] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: in Kde, click on the places thing (icon right next to K-Menu)
[02:06] <robotgeek> click samba shares, and if you have sharing enabled, it shoould popup there
[02:07] <BluesKaj> just tell me what it;s name is ..places thing?
[02:07] <win2lin> When I try to mount a CD it says "no medium found".  This same CD works in a Windows PC and even in this PC with a WIndows drive.
[02:07] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: lemme try to find it somewhere else, second
[02:08] <Jucato> how strange... very strange...
[02:08] <BluesKaj> I found it , remote places?
[02:08] <hollywoodb> win2lin: grep media /etc/fstab
[02:08] <hollywoodb> win2lin: what's the output of that?
[02:09] <win2lin> I guess I can always delete Linux and go back to Windows since Windows will read CDs
[02:09] <BluesKaj> robotgeek, remote places ...found it
[02:09] <hollywoodb> win2lin: nevermind then
[02:10] <win2lin> hollywoodb, OK, I'll try your suggestions first.
[02:10] <Random_Transit> Does anyone here use Nvu?
[02:10] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: does it popup?
[02:10] <win2lin> hollywoodb, where do I post the output?
[02:10] <robotgeek> !pastebin
[02:11] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[02:11] <BluesKaj> robotgeek, smb:/ ?
[02:11] <hollywoodb> win2lin: at that link ^^
[02:11] <robotgeek> yup. it should search and popup something there
[02:11] <win2lin> hollywoodb:  it's just 3 lines:  line 1:  /dev/hda        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[02:11] <win2lin> hollywoodb:  line 2  /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[02:11] <BluesKaj> I have Home Network and MSHome , robotgeek
[02:12] <win2lin> hollywoodb:  line 3  /dev/           /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[02:12] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: chekc both, depends on what workgroups you have setup.
[02:12] <hollywoodb> win2lin: so you have two CD/DVD drives and neither of them will read CDs ?
[02:12] <win2lin> hollywoodb:  BINGO
[02:13] <lucky_> OK I am back so how do you get to another chatroom that doesnt talk bout computer stiff
[02:15] <win2lin> hollywoodb:  one says "no medium found"
[02:15] <hollywoodb> win2lin: are you trying to mount an audio CD ?
[02:15] <win2lin> hollywoodb:  one says mount point "/media/cdrom does not exist"
[02:15] <win2lin> hollywoodb:  any CD
[02:15] <BluesKaj> Mshome shows this pc , home network is empty.. robotgeek
[02:16] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: do you have some kind of sharing setup on the windows PC?
[02:16] <lucky_> anyone gonna answer my queston
[02:16] <hollywoodb> win2lin: well, you shouldn't have to use the 'mount' command, and if you do use it, just use 'mount /dev/hda' for example, the rest of the info it needs is right there in /etc/fstab
[02:16] <robotgeek> lucky_: #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:17] <simmerz> hollywood: madwifi is already installed. and the module is loaded. but i can't see ath0 anywhere
[02:17] <BluesKaj> yes , already have the network setup in windows . robotgeek
[02:17] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: hmm, how comfy are you with the command line?
[02:17] <lucky_> #kubuntu-offtopic
[02:17] <win2lin> hollywoodb:  I'm using that and I'm using the GNOME EDGY MOUNTER
[02:18] <BluesKaj> I've used command line quite a bit
[02:18] <hollywoodb> win2lin: not familiar with Gnome's setup in ubuntu, this is #kubuntu ;)
[02:18] <thill2708> anyone know the default version of qt installed with kubuntu edgy?
[02:18] <BluesKaj> I've used command line quite a bit , robotgeek
[02:18] <win2lin> hollywoodb: yeah, I tried #UBUNTU but they just ignored me for the most part
[02:19] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: sudo apt-get install smbclient
[02:19] <win2lin> hollywoodb, anyway, it's not a U vs KU issue, it's a Linux or Edgy problem.
[02:19] <Jucato> win2lin: maybe no one's available to answer at the moment
[02:19] <win2lin> jucato, no they asked questions, which I answered, and then they just moved on to help others
[02:20] <BluesKaj> smbclient ia already the newest version... robotgeek
[02:20] <Jucato> win2lin: try asking again. such is the nature of IRC support. it's easy to get distracted
[02:20] <hollywoodb> win2lin: not necessarily, KDE has different mechanisms for mounting media, it gives you a popup dialog as soon as you put a disc in and goes from there based on whether its a blank cd, audio cd, data cd, dvd, etc... but 'mount /dev/hda' should work if the disc is in the right drive
[02:21] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: okay, try this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28samba%29#head-f6f0613872856cc6151c6ae74ff8c72f70f241a2
[02:21] <win2lin> hollywoodb, I put good known working program CDs in both drives.
[02:22] <win2lin> hollywoodb, how do I fix the /media/cdrom1 does not exist error?
[02:22] <jerp> an Adept Manager entry in Discriptions: "Legacy package for openh323gk that you should remove.  This package exists to smooth the transition from openh323gk to the renamed gnugk package. It can be safely removed."   Question:  How is the removal done if it's not installed?
[02:23] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: i followed that guide about 3 hours ago, i dont have windows at home though
[02:23] <Jucato> win2lin: check if it exists. it's a folder in /media
[02:24] <win2lin> jucato:  nope.  I have CDROM and CDROM0
[02:24] <Jucato> win2lin: how many CD/DVD drives do you have?
[02:25] <BluesKaj> that's gnome desktop stuff, robotgeek ...not familiar with it
[02:25] <Jucato> jerp: don't worry, I won't...:P
[02:25] <jerp> :)
[02:25] <win2lin> jucato, 2
[02:25] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: only the part about smbfs
[02:26] <Jucato> win2lin: and the other one mounts normally?
[02:26] <win2lin> jucato:  do i need to remap it in my /etc/fstab file?
[02:26] <win2lin> jucato:  neither one works
[02:26] <simmerz> wlanconfig doesn't exist anywhere!
[02:26] <Jucato> win2lin: try making the cdrom1 directory first. "sudo mkdir /media/cdrom1"
[02:26] <win2lin> jucato:  one says "no medium found" and the other says "mount point /media/cdrom1 does not exist"
[02:27] <Jucato> win2lin: creating the cdrom1 dir might solve the second error
[02:27] <christopher> is there some way to change the ammount alsamixer changes the speaker volume? My alsamixer only goes to about 30 percent
[02:28] <christopher> err, mixer
[02:28] <christopher> alsa mixer will go to 100
[02:28] <win2lin> jucato:  now i get the "no medium found" on both drives
[02:29] <Jucato> oh...
[02:30] <Jucato> Question: has anyone experience this: Konqueror is set to open new tabs instead of new windows. clicking on links in Konversation opens new tabs. but clicking on links in Akregator and KMail opens new windows... didn't happen in KDE 3.5.4 afaik
[02:34] <hollywoodb> Jucato: Akregator opens a tab inside akregator in my case... I don't use kmail
[02:34] <Jucato> hollywoodb: oh sorry, I meant middle-clicking in Akregator (which is supposed to open an external browser)
[02:34] <Jucato> In Dapper (KDE 3.5.4), it opens a new tab in Konqueror instead of a new window... now, it seems that it's not following Konqueror's settings...
[02:36] <hollywoodb> Jucato: ah, well I have firefox set as KDE default browser, but middle-click opens in a new tab in firefox if a ff window is already open
[02:36] <Jucato> hm... strange.. thanks anyway!
[02:38] <Jucato> hollywoodb: ok... Kopete also doesn't seem to follow... only Konversation does...
[02:38] <ubuntu_> hola
[02:39] <ubuntu_> soy nuevo..
[02:39] <Jucato> !es
[02:39] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:39] <ubuntu_> hi, i am noob
[02:40] <hollywoodb> Jucato: maybe its just konqueror settings, perhaps it isn't set to open new links in tabs ?
[02:40] <dude_> hi guys
[02:40] <Jucato> it's set to open new links in tabs, and to open in tabs if called externally (from another app)... like I said, this worked perfectly in KDE 3.5.4 (or in Dapper)...
[02:40] <dude_> abattoir !
[02:40] <Jucato> of to find a bug report...
[02:40] <Jucato> hi dude_
[02:41] <dude_> jucato !
[02:50] <BluesKaj> trying to use komba2 samba browser to access files on my windows network pc..."smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user"
[02:55] <BluesKaj> robotgeek, i have my network showing in komba2  , but it won't allow me to mount any files  ... "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user"
[03:00] <rhodri> hi, i'm having a "problem" with vi (though it could just be i don't know what i'm doing).  when i am in insert mode and press an arrow key a character gets inserted instead of the cursor moving? it never did this before i used edgy, so is it a problem or is it some kind of config setting?
[03:01] <|mp|> i have an external firewire disk that does not automount (or show up at all), it is connected through a PCMCIA card - what to do?
[03:02] <|mp|> the card is recognised: FireWire (IEEE 1394): NEC Corporation IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 01)
[03:02] <peter_> a
[03:20] <Th3_Cr0up13R> heloo everyone
[03:20] <Th3_Cr0up13R> how has your night been ?
[03:20] <Jucato> restless...
[03:22] <Th3_Cr0up13R> fair enough, why is that Jucato
[03:22] <Jucato> coughing in the middle of the night...
[03:23] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hehe, its alright that is something that goes by quickly
[03:45] <digivore> where do themes live in kubuntu?
[03:46] <Jucato> digivore: which kind of themes?
[03:46] <Healot> digivore: somewhere in /usr/share for KDE themes
[03:46] <Jucato> well, depends on what kind of "theme"
[03:47] <digivore> i downloaded one from kde-look.org   it comes with 3 folders
[03:47] <digivore> i'm guessing i don't use the theme manager in kcontrol for this kind.
[03:48] <Jucato> digivore: what kind of theme? there are .kth themes, deKorator themes, widget styles (need to be compiled), window decorations (need to be compiled), icon themes
[03:50] <digivore> it's a kde theme  and there was no obvious file extensions for a bundled theme...
[03:51] <Jucato> digivore: hm... can you give a link to what you downloaded? kde-look isn't really very clear on what it means by "theme"
[03:53] <digivore> hmm apparently it doesn't exist on there anymore...?  but i have the file!
[03:54] <Lamington> What doesn't exist ? A theme ? Is it good ?
[03:54] <Jucato> O_O
[03:55] <digivore> it was called dark knight    and it was theme number 48433
[03:55] <Jucato> digivore: you can take a peak inside the .tar.gz to get a clue. if it's something that needs to be compiled (widget Style or Window Decoration), it will have instructions
[03:55] <Lamington> How do I know its really good and you don't just have shockingly bad taste ? ;)
[03:55] <digivore> what is s QT curve scheme ?
[03:56] <digivore> Lamington: i never said it was good....  it was the first one on the list lastnight when i downloaded it.
[03:56] <Jucato> digivore: ah that's a scheme/theme for the QtCurve widget style (which you need to compile or install)
[03:56] <Lamington> digivore: ah k :)
[03:57] <digivore> ahhh   screw that..   whats the easiest kind of theme to install
[03:57] <Jucato> icon themes and color schemes
[03:57] <Jucato> digivore: there's a .deb for QtCurve floating around in kde-look.
[03:57] <digivore> do they usually come bundled together ?
[03:57] <Jucato> you can install that with no problems
[03:57] <digivore> where is a good place to get themes?
[03:58] <Jucato> icon themes and color schemes aren't bundled together
[03:58] <Jucato> KDE-Look is the best place to get stuff
[03:58] <digivore> ok
[03:59] <lucky_> hi
[03:59] <lucky_> um
[03:59] <lucky_> ya
[03:59] <lucky_> I have been banned
[03:59] <Jucato> !changethemes | digivore
[03:59] <ubotu> digivore: Install gnome-themes (gnome) or go to menu, system settings, appearance (KDE).  For a good KDE guide, see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=1255036&postcount=3
[03:59] <digivore> thx
[03:59] <lucky_> by Hybryd
[04:00] <lucky_> because some guy knew all my information well my full name
[04:00] <lucky_> and could fine me
[04:00] <Jucato> lucky_: no one knows *all* your information
[04:04] <nalioth> lucky_: can we stick with support roles in here?
[04:05] <smaggard> brb
[04:08] <rbil> lucky_: join me in #luckychat
[04:09] <Jucato> rbil: good luck! :)
[04:09] <luca> hi everyone
[04:10] <luca> BIG problem with swap partition. I am unable to mount it :(
[04:11] <luca> I wonder if this explains why my RAM is always completely full....
[04:12] <hollywoodb> luca: how much RAM do you have?
[04:12] <luca> 512 mb, and 1 gb of swap
[04:12] <luca> which apparentely is not mounted
[04:13] <Jucato> luca: how are you sure it isn't mounted?
[04:13] <Healot> swapon
[04:13] <luca> qtparted first, then I tried to mount it manually
[04:14] <luca> and there are a pair of funny things about it
[04:15] <hollywoodb> luca: try 'sudo swapon -a'
[04:15] <luca> ok
[04:15] <Jucato> what funny things?
[04:15] <hollywoodb> luca: if it says 'device or resource busy', it's probably already mounted... swap doesn't show up via 'mount' command
[04:15] <luca> 1- it seems that the partition has TWO names
[04:15] <Jucato> btw, RAM will always be almost full, that's how Linux manages memory
[04:16] <luca>  /dev/hda4/ and /dev/hda5/
[04:16] <Healot> if the swap partition is not auto (or not even listed) in the fstab file, that might be one source of the problem
[04:16] <Jucato> luca: I'm guess that /dev/hda4 is the "marker" for an extended partition, and /dev/hda5 is the actual (logical) partition
[04:16] <luca> ok, when I tried to run sudo mount /dev/hda4 and 5 I gor these messages...now i will try the other command by the way, thanx :)
[04:17] <Jucato> you don't mount swap with "mount" command
[04:17] <luca> ehm hollywoodb...when I use your command:
[04:18] <luca> swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/3d645edb-9b7b-45a3-a078-186d85e53020: Argomento non valido
[04:18] <luca> Argument not valid
[04:18] <luca> the last part
[04:18] <luca> and with mount...
[04:18] <luca> mount: unknown filesystem type 'swap'
[04:18] <greg> Hello.
[04:18] <luca> jucato: thanks for the explaination :)
[04:19] <Jucato> luca: are you sure you entered it exactly as "sudo swapon -a" ?
[04:19] <luca> yes I am
[04:19] <Jucato> hm..
[04:19] <greg> I had a box that was locking up all the time under 6.06.1.  Is there a credible technical reason to hope that 6.10.1 could offer better?
[04:20] <Jucato> greg: depends on what is causing the lockup (and it's 6.10, not 6.10.1)
[04:20] <greg> When I'd leave it alone for >30 mins, coming back, the box was in a stupor, the only remedy was a power-reboot.
[04:21] <Jucato> greg: do you have monitor power saving or hibernate enabled?
[04:21] <greg> Well, actually now I have knoppix on the box, and thinking about coming back to ku.
[04:21] <Th3_Cr0up13R> kaffeine says something about not finding a demux
[04:22] <Th3_Cr0up13R> when running avi file
[04:22] <Shaezsche>  is there a way to set a folder so only a specific user can view and access it?
[04:22] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: do you have libxine-extracodecs installed?
[04:22] <Th3_Cr0up13R> it was running them fine 10min ago
[04:22] <Jucato> hm...
[04:22] <Jucato> Shaezsche: change the owner and group of the folder to that specific user, then change the permissions so that only the user can have read and write access to it
[04:23] <Th3_Cr0up13R> yes i do have them installed
[04:23] <Jucato> Shaezsche: right-click on the folder -> Properties -> Permissions tab
[04:23] <Th3_Cr0up13R> Jucato: i got the codecs installed
[04:23] <Th3_Cr0up13R> and the libxine-main1
[04:23] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: that was what the "hm..." was for...
[04:23] <Th3_Cr0up13R> installed
[04:24] <Jucato> you were able to play the same file earlier?
[04:24] <Th3_Cr0up13R> heheh sorry
[04:24] <luca> any idea for the swap anyone? I have to go in little time :(
[04:24] <hollywoodb> greg: there's the kubuntu 6.10 live/install CD, so if it works well in livecd mode there's a pretty good chance it'll work when installed
[04:24] <Th3_Cr0up13R> no
[04:24] <Th3_Cr0up13R> different file
[04:24] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: ah... it could be using a different codec... or something...
[04:24] <Th3_Cr0up13R> maybe because the file has a very long name
[04:25] <Alter-Ego> how do i install a deb
[04:25] <luca> use gdebi
[04:25] <luca> or synaptic if it is in the repos
[04:25] <Jucato> luca: we're in Kubuntu, remember?
[04:25] <abattoir> Alter-Ego: 'sudo dpkg -i <file>
[04:25] <abattoir> Alter-Ego: 'sudo dpkg -i <file>'
[04:26] <Alter-Ego> thx
[04:26] <Jucato> Alter-Ego: right-click on the deb, select Kubuntu Package Menu -> Install Package
[04:26] <Alter-Ego> kubutu package manager has an old version
[04:26] <Alter-Ego> i want the newer version of the program i am downloading
[04:26] <Jucato> Alter-Ego: what do you mean?
[04:26] <Alter-Ego> gramps-2.2.2
[04:26] <luca> tell him to install it anyways
[04:27] <Alter-Ego> gramps-project.org
[04:27] <Jucato> Alter-Ego: I said right-click on the .deb file, then there will be a service menu that has "Kubuntu Package Menu"
[04:27] <Jucato> I'm not saying you install it using Adept
[04:27] <Alter-Ego> oh, ok
[04:27] <Alter-Ego> kewl
[04:27] <Alter-Ego> sorry
[04:27] <luca> and btw Jucato...I find that gdebi works much better than kubuntu package manager, in kubuntu :(
[04:27] <cpk1> how do you make an exact copy of a cd?
[04:27] <Th3_Cr0up13R> which bitorrent client is better to use
[04:27] <Jucato> luca: yes. the Kubuntu package menu I'm talking about is just a script
[04:27] <cpk1> would cp -rf work?
[04:27] <Jucato> they're planning to port gdebi to Kubuntu
[04:28] <Th3_Cr0up13R> ktorrent , azureus,rtorrent,qtorrent  -- i got loads here im confused
[04:28] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i just need one that does the job
[04:28] <Jucato> I have ktorrent. works well for me
[04:28] <luca> cpk1: k3b should be the one you look for
[04:28] <Jucato> KDE integration is a plus
[04:28] <luca> any idea for the swap?
[04:28] <cpk1> k3b keeps hanging on a file
[04:28] <luca> no idea then.
[04:28] <Th3_Cr0up13R> Jucato:  to me it says there is some kindof bug
[04:28] <hollywoodb> cpk1: if you're against using burning software, dd if=/dev/cdin of=/dev/cdout should work, if you use the correct /dev/ nodes ;)
[04:28] <Th3_Cr0up13R> not exactly what though
[04:29] <luca> I have to go in 2 minutes...please at least a thought :(
[04:29] <hollywoodb> cpk1: and they're UNmounted iirc
[04:29] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: what says there's some kind of bug?
[04:29] <Th3_Cr0up13R> kde crash manager
[04:29] <Th3_Cr0up13R> something just terminates
[04:29] <cpk1> i am writing the iso to my hdd so could i do dd if=/dev/cdrom0 of=/home/cpk1/foo.iso?
[04:29] <Jucato> luca: in your fstab, check if the UUID for the swap entry/line matches the UUID of the partition you made for swap (presuming you are on Edgy?)
[04:29] <Th3_Cr0up13R> it and when i rerun it it runs fine
[04:30] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: that's for KTorrent?
[04:30] <Th3_Cr0up13R> for a bit
[04:30] <Th3_Cr0up13R> then same again
[04:30] <Th3_Cr0up13R> yep
[04:30] <Jucato> it must have something to do with what you're downloading
[04:31] <luca> Jucato: yes
[04:31] <luca> fstab was in etc, right?
[04:31] <Th3_Cr0up13R> they are just martial arts avi files
[04:31] <Jucato> luca: yes
[04:31] <Jucato> !UUID | luca
[04:31] <ubotu> luca: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid"
[04:31] <hollywoodb> cpk1: other way around... if=input of=output
[04:31] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: they might be corrupted or KTorrent seems them as corrupted. either way, it might be causing the crashes
[04:32] <hollywoodb> cpk1: oh wait, yeah you had it right
[04:32] <Th3_Cr0up13R> ill wait until they are finished and ill try again
[04:32] <luca> the swap partition is seen as 'swsuspend'
[04:32] <Th3_Cr0up13R> probably because not all the packets have arrived yet
[04:32] <Th3_Cr0up13R> and its being stupid
[04:32] <Jucato> luca: where? in fstab?
[04:32] <luca> no blkid
[04:32] <luca> and
[04:33] <draik> How do I continue my torrents that I had before?
[04:33] <luca> I cannot go to /etc/fstab/ o_O
[04:33] <draik> I have the files (partials) in one main folder
[04:33] <Jucato> draik: in KTorrent?
[04:33] <draik> yes
[04:33] <draik> Hey Jucato
[04:33] <Jucato> luca: why can't you go into /etc ?
[04:33] <Jucato> luca: fstab is a file, not a directory
[04:33] <luca> sorry
[04:33] <luca> just done ls, seen it
[04:34] <luca> # /dev/hda5 -- converted during upgrade to edgy
[04:34] <luca> UUID=3d645edb-9b7b-45a3-a078-186d85e53020 none swap sw 0 0
[04:34] <Jucato> draik: Configure KTorrent,  Plugins, load the "partfileimportplugin", Apply and OK, then File -> Import existing download
[04:34] <luca> but to qtparted /dev/hda5/ is not swap...
[04:34] <draik> sweet, thanks Jucato
[04:34] <Jucato> luca: in blkid, what's the /dev/hda5 line?
[04:34] <luca> first AND last
[04:35] <Shaezsche> is there a way to HIDE a folder so that other users cannot even see the directory?
[04:35] <Jucato> no, I mean something like /dev/hdb3: UUID="dc22d891-ecc4-4c44-80ee-90d0c4e8b61d" TYPE="swap"
[04:35] <cpk1> ugh i still get an input/output error with dd
[04:35] <luca> no TYPE=swap
[04:35] <Jucato> luca: hm.. that's a problem then...
[04:35] <luca> and I have also to run in 30 secs :(
[04:35] <Jucato> luca: QtParted must have partitioned/formatted it wrong
[04:35] <cpk1> all i want is the roller coaster tycoon cd on my har drive so i dont have to put in a 170mB cd to play it!
[04:36] <luca> good!
[04:36] <hollywoodb> cpk1: maybe that's why k3b is having trouble as well
[04:36] <draik> Jucato: I don't have their torrents, just the data
[04:36] <luca> I will check it later I fear, I am late. Thanks a lot!!
[04:36] <Jucato> draik: you need the .torrent
[04:36] <cpk1> it is but i dont trust guis if they fail so then i go to the command line
[04:36] <luca> see you all and thanks
[04:36] <hollywoodb> cpk1: is it pretty scratched up?
[04:36] <Jucato> CadaverPimp: not really. it might not be hard to locate
[04:36] <CadaverPimp> I hope not Jucato
[04:37] <cpk1> a little, but it managed to install fine
[04:37] <hollywoodb> cpk1: well, cdparanoia is awesome at getting the data off of damaged CDs, but it takes a long time... iirc cdparanoia is just a library, so you need to find an application that is built with support for and uses cdparanoia
[04:37] <Th3_Cr0up13R> Jucato: the file im downloading is using xvid codec
[04:38] <Th3_Cr0up13R> it shouldnt be a problem right?
[04:38] <hollywoodb> cpk1: and I've only used cdparanoia with audio cds, I don't know if it supports *any* cd or if its designed with ripping audio
[04:38] <Jucato> Th3_Cr0up13R: shouldn't be
[04:39] <cpk1> well i cleaned the dust off it and am trying again (yes thats right it was dusty =P)
[04:40] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[04:40] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:40] <cpk1> yup it wa the dust lol
[04:40] <cpk1> it worked this time
[04:41] <hollywoodb> cpk1: heh... doesn't hurt to actually clean your drives once in a while either
[04:42] <hollywoodb> Jucato: I used to have one of those CDs with a brush on it, then I was told it can leave scratches on the lens.... these days I put a couple blasts out of those compressed air cans into them... which I usually do before bed with the system powered down until morning since every once in a while they'll spray a *little* bit of moisture
[04:43] <hollywoodb> seems like the lesser of two evils I guess
[04:43] <Jucato> I guess so... doesn't blasting the dust only scatters them?
[04:44] <hollywoodb> Jucato: well, I keep my systems pretty clean, nothing ever comes out and my cases have filters on them... but my parents' drive hit me in the face with a load of dust... twice... when I was peering into it while spraying
[04:44] <Jucato> ouch...
[04:44] <hollywoodb> Jucato: I suppose the "proper" way would be to remove the drive and take it out of its "shell", but that's just a lot of work :)
[04:45] <Jucato> yeah. not to mention taking the risk that it might not work properly when you put it back in :P
[04:45] <Dark_Vampire> Ive got a problem i guess
[04:45] <dooowweeedoo> hey guys i got a problem with kubuntu 6.10
[04:46] <hollywoodb> Jucato: right
[04:46] <dooowweeedoo> it doesn't recognize my bluetooth keyboard
[04:46] <hollywoodb> dooowweeedoo: did it recognize it during the install ?
[04:46] <dooowweeedoo> no idea, i used the iso on a disk, and then i chose to install
[04:46] <dooowweeedoo> it went straight to the desktop
[04:47] <dooowweeedoo> everything is working except the keyboard
[04:47] <Dark_Vampire> the last time i sometimes got outloged of my system and i have to login again (and all windows are closed then), bevor that most time short the screen is dark or "Out of Range"
[04:47] <Dark_Vampire> use dapper drake point on
[04:47] <Dark_Vampire> one
[04:47] <dooowweeedoo> does that come with kubuntu?
[04:47] <dooowweeedoo> and how do i actually install kubuntu
[04:47] <dooowweeedoo> i chose install, but it was more like a test
[04:49] <dooowweeedoo> ?
[04:51] <rbil> I suspect it's going to be pretty hard to install if you don't have a working keyboard :-)
[04:54] <hollywoodb> yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking
[05:03] <smaggard> hey everyone
[05:07] <justin1278> hello
[05:07] <justin1278> is there somebody available who can assist me?
[05:07] <unix_infidel> !ask
[05:07] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:08] <justin1278> Ok
[05:08] <justin1278> For some reason in Kubuntu when I go to storage medai
[05:08] <justin1278> media*
[05:08] <justin1278> I only see a folder that says CDRom
[05:09] <justin1278> none of my usr files or anything else are there.
[05:09] <justin1278> just that folder which is empty
[05:09] <justin1278> i am running Kubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft
[05:10] <Hawkwind> !hidden-root | justin1278
[05:10] <ubotu> justin1278: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[05:11] <justin1278> ok i see
[05:11] <justin1278> thanks a lot guys
[05:12] <rbil> Sounds like Kubuntu Edgy is trying to be very much like Windoze :-(
[05:12] <justin1278> lol that is what i was thinking rbil
[05:13] <justin1278> lol
[05:13] <unix_infidel> Jucato: then go to work and fix it.
[05:13] <Jucato> unix_infidel: fix what?
[05:13] <unix_infidel> maybe you will have a US Dollar for everytime someone said that in here.
[05:14] <unix_infidel> to where its not "very much like windoze"
[05:14] <rbil> hehe
[05:14] <Jucato> oh
[05:14] <Jucato> :P
[05:14] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hey guys nice talking to you tonight
[05:14] <Th3_Cr0up13R> see you tomorrow
[05:14] <Th3_Cr0up13R> have fun ;)
[05:15] <justin1278> bye
[05:15] <justin1278> kinda slow in here tonight
[05:19] <smaggard_> anyone run an ltsp server in kubuntu?
[05:26] <hektik> hey in the edgy install, if i resize a partition with windows on it, will it erase the partition or just resize it without affecting those fiels ?
[05:27] <fribuntu> Hi
[05:28] <fribuntu> Is there a way to use encrypted filesystems for the home partition in (k)ubuntu?
[05:28] <fribuntu> I did not see any such options during the installation.
[05:32] <RobNyc> how can I set Konqueror identification to be IE 6 default on all ?
[05:33] <RobNyc> Hawkwind, would u know
[05:34] <IA-Outdoors> adept_manager hung on me so I had to kill it but when I run it again it thinks something else has it locked
[05:34] <IA-Outdoors> what do I need to do to fix?
[05:34] <Hawkwind> RobNyc: I don't use KDE, sorry
[05:34] <RobNyc> Hawkwind, i thought you used Kubuntu thats why you're here? cuz you said you cant stand gnome lol
[05:34] <RobNyc> so you're using Xubuntu?
[05:35] <Hawkwind> RobNyc: I use Kubuntu, but I use E17.  I've never used KDE
[05:35] <RobNyc> oh
[05:35] <RobNyc> alright
[05:36] <jobless_> guys i have a problem with my mouse.. the pointer acceleration does not increase though i change the setting..!
[05:36] <jobless_> hi abattoir
[05:39] <murchadh> IA-Outdoors: Open a terminal and type sudo apt-get update, and see what output you get.
[05:41] <jobless_> !mouse
[05:41] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[05:41] <jobless_> !pointer
[05:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about pointer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:41] <jobless_> !laptop
[05:41] <ubotu> Laptop support information can be found on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops - http://www.linux-laptop.net/ - http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam - http://tuxmobil.org
[05:44] <jobless_> !desktop
[05:44] <ubotu> The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are Gnome (ubuntu-desktop), KDE (kubuntu-desktop), XCFE (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM  and others.
[05:45] <jobless_> !xps
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xps - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <jobless_> !dell
[05:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dell - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:45] <IceKnight> I was trying to install MUTE and it asked me to provide "full path to wxWindows wx-config script." My question is, where is that and why won't search commands find that.
[05:45] <jobless_> guys i have a problem with my mouse.. the pointer acceleration does not increase though i change the setting..!
[05:46] <RobNyc> !ati
[05:46] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:53] <murchadh> IceKnight: Try running your locate as root! eg sudo locate filename
[06:05] <lunitik> Anyone know how I might go about making my system sleep when its not doing anything? Like powersaving for the computer itself, not just the monitor?
[06:09] <plitskin> hi, is it now possible to save a file when you're using kubuntu on VMWAre?
[06:10] <lunitik> plitskin: VMware server... sure... player? no idea
[06:11] <plitskin> uhmm... player...
[06:11] <plitskin> I'm using Kubuntu on vmware player but when I tried saving a file...
[06:11] <plitskin> the next time I opened vmware it's gone...
[06:11] <unix_infidel> what's the fastest easiest way to transfer files from a guest to a host
[06:22] <main> hello all
[06:26] <main> hello
[06:29] <felixjet> is there anyway to downgrade to dapper? edgy SUCKS hard
[06:29] <lunitik> felixjet: what sucks about it that is better in Dapper?
[06:29] <unix_infidel> i'm interested in knowing too, maybe you have a blog entry about it?
[06:30] <felixjet> lunitik: all sucks, this is worst than windows. its going slowly as windows XP on a 486
[06:30] <smaggard_> edgy sucks?! how so?
[06:30] <Nuked> how do I enable composite?
[06:30] <smaggard_> works FINE on my setup
[06:30] <unix_infidel> i suppose i was wrong on both accounts.
[06:30] <felixjet> its always 45%+ of CPU
[06:30] <felixjet> when im doing nothing
[06:31] <felixjet> and even all app's for edgy sucks
[06:31] <smaggard_> Nuked> edit xorg.conf, i can pastebin it if you want..
[06:31] <felixjet> the upgrade **cked my configurations
[06:31] <smaggard_> hmm all work fine here
[06:31] <smaggard_> ooo you did an upgrade.. hmmm
[06:31] <Nuked> smaggard_: sure dude!
[06:31] <smaggard_> ok hold on let me pastebin it
[06:31] <Nuked> dist-upgraded=satan
[06:31] <lunitik> felixjet: other than reinstalling, no... there is no way
[06:31] <felixjet> pf :(
[06:32] <smaggard_> lol
[06:32] <Nuked> if your harddrive is 38 c is that bad?
[06:32] <felixjet> why its going so slowly? its like windows XP on a 486
[06:32] <smaggard_> Nuked> you mean add composite for your video card right? like in xorg.conf
[06:32] <lunitik> Nuked: thats about normal afaik
[06:32] <Nuked> yeah smaggard_
[06:32] <smaggard_> aight hold on
[06:32] <Nuked> lol thanks
[06:33] <lunitik> Nuked: its a little hot... but below 40 is generally fine...
[06:33] <Nuked> its usually below 40
[06:33] <lunitik> Nuked: what did you use to see tempreture? I'd like to know how hot my Video Card is....
[06:33] <Nuked> lunitik thats my harddrive temp
[06:33] <smaggard_> http://pastebin.com/820970
[06:34] <lunitik> Nuked: yes... it spins a lot... causes a lot of friction.... should be ok....
[06:34] <lunitik> Nuked: but again, what did you use to test temps?
[06:34] <Nuked> hddtemp
[06:35] <lunitik> Nuked: :(
[06:35] <smaggard_> lol
[06:35] <Nuked> why lunatik?
[06:35] <Nuked> lunitik:
[06:36] <smaggard_> have you tried ktemperature too?
[06:37] <felixjet> lunitik: can you help me please :( edgy is using 100% of my cpu! i cant do anything
[06:37] <lunitik> felixjet: What you want me to do about it?
[06:37] <smaggard_> Nuked> did you get my pastebin?
[06:37] <Nuked> yes smaggard
[06:37] <Nuked> Section "Extensions"
[06:37] <Nuked>         Option "Composite" "Enable"
[06:37] <Nuked> EndSection
[06:38] <smaggard_> yup
[06:38] <smaggard_> just wondering.
[06:38] <lunitik> Kubuntu enables Composite by default
[06:38] <felixjet> lunitik: help me fix it?
[06:38] <Nuked> ill try it and see smaggard_ brb
[06:38] <Jucato> not in my xorg.conf...
[06:38] <smaggard_> i had to enable mine
[06:38] <smaggard_> manually
[06:39] <Jucato> lunitik: I think that was only in Dapper. maybe they removed it in Edgy
[06:39] <lunitik> Jucato: you don't need it via the config file in Kubuntu... ATI cards don't work with this on, so trust me I know its there....
[06:40] <smaggard_> what does it do to the ati cards? make them slower?
[06:40] <smaggard_> yeah on my laptop i have it Disabled and it has a 200M
[06:42] <hollywoodb> the composite extension in xorg.conf is not enabled by default in xorg.conf, and by many video cards it isn't even needed for xorg 7.1... 7.1 autodetects about 95% of what it needs.. in fact unless you're using proprietary drivers or special settings X.org will function perfectly with no /etc/X11/xorg.conf at all
[06:43] <hollywoodb> forgive the redundancy in the first sentence :X
[06:43] <smaggard_> lol yeah im using props on the laptop with the ati
[06:45] <hollywoodb> and with edgy (X.org 7.1) if you view /var/log/Xorg.0.log you'll notice that every single fontpath in /etc/X11/xorg.conf is completely wrong, and it still picks up all fonts on its own... the same goes for hardware detection
[06:46] <hollywoodb> (unless you want to specifiy a proprietary video driver, synaptics touchpad options, etc... it still recognizes what you set in xorg.conf)
[06:46] <smaggard_> yeah :D
[06:47] <solar_ant> hey all
[06:48] <solar_ant> i have fsck.vfat runing in the background and comsuning 92% of cpu usage
[06:48] <smaggard_> hey
[06:48] <solar_ant> how do i turn it off ?
[06:48] <solar_ant> hey smaggard_ !
[06:48] <solar_ant> do u know ho to stop fsck  cleanly ?
[06:48] <smaggard_> hmmmm
[06:48] <smaggard_> hold on
[06:49] <solar_ant> :)
[06:50] <smaggard_> why do you need to stop it?
[06:50] <solar_ant> its running even now
[06:50] <solar_ant> and its taking 92% of my cpu usage
[06:51] <hollywoodb> solar_ant: if it decided it needs to run you're really best off just letting it run
[06:51] <smaggard_> type ps ax and then see what the process id is and then type sudo kill 32256 or whatever the id is
[06:51] <smaggard_> But I would let it run...............
[06:52] <solar_ant> smaggard_:  kill or killal in the middle of a check wont it corrupt my data ?
[06:52] <smaggard_> just wait it out
[06:52] <solar_ant> smaggard_:  its been running for hours
[06:52] <solar_ant> and also
[06:52] <solar_ant> every time i boot fsck.ext2 starts
[06:52] <smaggard_> try restarting
[06:52] <solar_ant> it just stalls
[06:52] <solar_ant> i have to press ctrl alt del to get over it
[06:52] <smaggard_> hmmmmmm
[06:52] <solar_ant> is it a bug ?
[06:53] <felixjet> my problem is the same, but no program consuming CPU, its all, when i open a program it takes ages to load
[06:54] <lunitik> felixjet: you screwed up somehow... just install edgy in place or reinstall dapper  :/
[06:55] <felixjet> but i will lose my configs? :(
[06:55] <smaggard_> agrees
[06:55] <solar_ant> great i had to use killall
[06:55] <solar_ant> anyway i mounted my drive
[06:56] <solar_ant> things are fine luckily !
[06:56] <solar_ant> :)
[06:57] <felixjet> damn it
[06:57] <felixjet> bad time when i upgraded to edgy
[06:58] <smaggard_> i never did the upgrade.. just full install.
[06:58] <felixjet> but if i reinstall from CD, i will lose all right?
[06:58] <felixjet> configs, programs...
[06:59] <lunitik> felixjet: yes..... unless you were intelligent enough to use a seperate /home .. in which case you'd keep user settings....
[07:00] <daftvader> hi
[07:00] <felixjet> pf
[07:00] <felixjet> i was happy with kubuntu and now im so pissed
[07:00] <daftvader> can anyone tell me how to stop shift+backspace from killing my xwindow?
[07:01] <smaggard_> im not sure but i woudl think that keyboard settings in kde's config somewhere.
[07:01] <hollywoodb> felixjet: with a seperate /home you're in good shape... the easiest way to go about things is to know your /etc/apt/sources.list, know what programs you need to add right away... if you install from source and you're not keen on building packages try out checkinstall to make packages for you
[07:02] <hollywoodb> felixjet: also, it doesn't hurt to backup /etc/ ... just in case you realize later you had something configured there (which happens to me quite often)
[07:02] <smaggard_> yeah
[07:02] <j_> hey guys
[07:03] <j_> i need to know how i can access my windows files from ubuntu
[07:03] <unix_infidel> is there anyway i can generate a list of all packages installed after date mm.dd.yy and throw them into a file that i can point apt-get at?
[07:03] <lunitik> !ntfs
[07:03] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[07:04] <nino_> hi
[07:04] <smaggard_> Hi!
[07:04] <smaggard_> craig ferguson is on :D
[07:05] <nino_> what package do i need to install for mp3 playback in amorok??
[07:06] <felixjet> what if i modify 'edgy' to 'dapper' in sources.list and make a upgrade & dist-upgrade again?
[07:06] <lunitik> felixjet: nope
[07:07] <lunitik> nino_: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs
[07:07] <smaggard_> nino> when you try and play an mp3 it should guide you through it.
[07:07] <felixjet> then, whats the best way to go back to dapper and dont lose my configs/apps/packages...
[07:08] <lunitik> felixjet: I told you, you CAN'T
[07:08] <felixjet> must be a way.. since this is suppose to be better than "windows
[07:08] <smaggard_> felixjet> OMFG!
[07:08] <lunitik> felixjet: you can't downgrade windows versions either
[07:08] <smaggard_> you did not just say that.
[07:08] <nino_> lunitik shot thanks!!
[07:08] <felixjet> 2 months un kubuntu, i upgrade to edgy with the manual, and now all is errors, performance issues, lost configs... and i will lose all? with no way?
[07:08] <felixjet> lmao...
[07:09] <smaggard_> linux has no room for crybabies.
[07:09] <smaggard_> nor will it tolerate them.
[07:09] <lunitik> felixjet: you fucked up... don't fuck up next time... your whinning is getting annoying though...
[07:09] <felixjet> smaggard_: just room for the one who things this is a panacea?
[07:09] <felixjet> even if they lose ALL
[07:10] <smaggard_> how much did you pay for kubuntu and how much is this support ticket costing you? o wait..........
[07:10] <felixjet> they are generating money from each single person who uses the SO
[07:10] <smaggard_> ?
[07:11] <lunitik> felixjet: Go pay Novell $50 a year to listen to you whine
[07:11] <smaggard_> LOL
[07:11] <lunitik> felixjet: no... they're not
[07:11] <nino_> felixjet buy WINDOW VISTA!!
[07:11] <smaggard_> ubuntu and all variants are the BEST linux distors imho
[07:11] <smaggard_> distros*
[07:11] <felixjet> yay, and they fuck up ur 2 months jobs while upgrading SO *cough*
[07:12] <smaggard_> ever hear of a backup?
[07:12] <lunitik> felixjet: Funny how it went fine for everyone but you?
[07:12] <smaggard_> lunitik> hahaha
[07:13] <smaggard_> what pisses me off is ppl coming in hear and threatening/comparing linux to windows
[07:13] <smaggard_> here*
[07:13] <felixjet> naH, windows sucks
[07:13] <lunitik> smaggard_: Thats perfectly fair....
[07:14] <RobNyc> anyone here uses EasyUbuntu ?
[07:14] <felixjet> im just pissed off cause the **cking upgrade is more like a system killer
[07:14] <lunitik> smaggard_: Linux wants to be better than Windows on merits.... not just on religious wars
[07:14] <hollywoodb> RobNyc: nope :) why do you ask?
[07:14] <felixjet> but the merit is that now i need to backup all and format
[07:14] <smaggard_> linux is better than any M$ product on all fronts.
[07:15] <hollywoodb> smaggard_: pffft... Windows has supported a single partition since 1.0 :P
[07:15] <RobNyc> hollywoodb, im trying to run it and its not even working
[07:15] <RobNyc> python: can't open file './easyubuntu.in': [Errno 2]  No such file or directory so I think I'll go back to automatix prob
[07:15] <lunitik> smaggard_: but yet you become defensive when others compare and don't reach the same conclusion?
[07:15] <j_> thanks for that link for the windows file access
[07:15] <j_> is there one on how to setup my graphics card?
[07:15] <j_> i think im using default drivers right now
[07:15] <nino_> go linux go linux go linux!!!! weeehooo my amarok is working thnx lunitik!!
[07:15] <j_> i can't get it to go up to 1280x1024
[07:16] <hollywoodb> RobNyc: have you checked out ubuntuguide ? it might require a bit more manual interaction, but it hasn't failed me yet
[07:16] <lunitik> nino_: :)
[07:16] <smaggard_> lol thats like saying my car is better than yours because i buy my gas at BP
[07:16] <lunitik> nino_: Now for some codecs so you can watch pr0n and DVD's  :)
[07:16] <nino_> ok
[07:16] <smaggard_> lol
[07:16] <smaggard_> install w32codecs :D
[07:16] <RobNyc> hollywoodb, i dont know if i did it right it but it seems it failed on edgy
[07:16] <lunitik> nino_: Google for 'w32codecs ubuntu"
[07:16] <smaggard_> sudp apt-get install w32codecs :D
[07:17] <felixjet> smaggard_: it is possible to backup a list of packages manually installed, the programs installed, configs of SO, etc????
[07:17] <smaggard_> sudo* and take out the :D
[07:17] <lunitik> smaggard_: they're not in the archive
[07:17] <hollywoodb> RobNyc: well, if it says it failed on "./easyubuntu.in' that means the the file easyubuntu.in needs to be in the same directory that you're running "Easy Ubuntu" from, if that makes sense (I haven't run it myself)
[07:17] <nino_> now this is what i call SUPPORT!!
[07:17] <felixjet> or i need reconfigure and reinstall all again
[07:17] <lunitik> smaggard_: if you care to share the correct sources.list line... it'd be helpful for nino_  :)
[07:17] <RobNyc> well i dont even know about that hollywoodb i just saved the deb to desktop
[07:17] <smaggard_> the correct sources.list for edgy?
[07:18] <RobNyc> ran dpkg -i Desktop/easyubuntu.deb
[07:18] <smaggard_> o you mean for the w32codecs?
[07:18] <RobNyc> and added the url to sources.list
[07:18] <lunitik> felixjet: It takes me about an hour to install and configure everything... I think you'd have been done by now if you'd have just done it instead of complaining
[07:18] <Jucato> wiki.kubuntu.org/Jucato <--- default edgy sources.list (no locale, no multiverse)
[07:18] <lunitik> smaggard_: yes
[07:18] <lunitik> smaggard_: w32codecs is _not_ in multiverse
[07:19] <nino_> mmm not in my source list
[07:19] <smaggard_> ill pastebin my entire list
[07:19] <felixjet> lunitik: the problem is that i dont remember all configurations like windows position/sizes, themes and stuff
[07:19] <nino_> cool :)
[07:19] <Jucato> I'll repeat what lunitik said... w32codecs is *NOT* in multiverse :P
[07:20] <lunitik> Its not on any Ubuntu mirror eiether...
[07:20] <lunitik> either*
[07:20] <smaggard_> i installed with edgy
[07:20] <smaggard_> using apt-get
[07:20] <Jucato> w32codecs is not in any "official" Ubuntu/Canonical repos
[07:20] <smaggard_> http://pastebin.com/820989
[07:21] <nino_> smaggard many thanks!!!
[07:21] <smaggard_> if you make your sources like that... youll get w32codecs
[07:21] <smaggard_> np :D thats edgy btw.........
[07:21] <Jucato> yes, with the PLF repositories
[07:21] <felixjet> lunitik: should i format drive or just install in the next boot?
[07:21] <nino_> my distro is a halfbreed i think!!
[07:22] <lunitik> felixjet: format everything but /home (if its seperate)
[07:22] <lunitik> nino_: whats your distro?
[07:22] <felixjet> but, if i reinstall without formatting, for example, all the /usr/www/ folder will be deleted?
[07:22] <smaggard_> felixjet> im not sure, wondered that myself.
[07:22] <felixjet> or i will keep all data, just overwriting the SO needed files
[07:23] <lunitik> felixjet: you have a webserver installed there?
[07:23] <felixjet> yea
[07:23] <felixjet> i have lot of data
[07:23] <nino_> im on dapper, but upgraded allot of stuff in between
[07:23] <smaggard_> webserver on a desktop?
[07:23] <felixjet> that i dont wanna lose
[07:23] <lunitik> felixjet: ouch.. I'd back that kinda stuff up....
[07:23] <felixjet> is just a webserver for testing
[07:23] <smaggard_> you def need that on an nfs server or dvd or something to have backed up..
[07:24] <felixjet> its easy to do php stuff in a local server
[07:24] <smaggard_> yeah theres nothing wrong with having apache running on a desktop for the proper intentions.
[07:24] <globe> I am trying to install my hp printer, and gnome is asking me where the driver is...where is it?
[07:24] <jazzrocker> why won't kate find or replace \n or \r ?
[07:25] <felixjet> what about make a fat32 partition, tar all the / directory, and move it there? XD
[07:25] <felixjet> and then, format linux partition and reinstall
[07:25] <smaggard_> hy fat32? why not ext3?
[07:26] <smaggard_> if you have space i would make a new partition and backup to it
[07:26] <felixjet> cause my other HD is ntfs, and i can go windows and make a fat32 partition in that HD, also good to data exchange from Win-Linux
[07:26] <felixjet> uhm
[07:26] <smaggard_> sounds like you need another hd :D
[07:27] <nino_> he he he just n littlebit of copy n paste then my sources would be ready :)!!
[07:27] <felixjet> or maybe, like you say, make a new partition here, move the backup there and reinstall edgy...
[07:27] <smaggard_> lol and then your pr0n will be viewable in mplayer!
[07:27] <felixjet> and use the backup partition as a secure data place
[07:27] <felixjet> i have 2 x 220GB HD's
[07:28] <felixjet> space is not a problem
[07:28] <smaggard_> felixjet> yeah you can tar whatever dirs you want and put them on the new partition
[07:28] <jazzrocker> seriously, can anyone successfully do a regex search for \n or \r in kate?
[07:28] <smaggard_> i have 4 600GB HDs :D :D :P
[07:28] <nino_> smaggard lol!!
[07:28] <Jucato> smaggard_: my eyes just popped out
[07:28] <smaggard_> LOL
[07:28] <jazzrocker> and if so why isn't mine working
[07:28] <smaggard_> LOTS OF PR0N!
[07:28] <felixjet> well, here is 2 another problems, how to edit grub menu? i have it full of selection lines that i would like to remove
[07:29] <jazzrocker> also, how do i do non-greedy quantifiers w/kate?
[07:29] <smaggard_> thats easy
[07:29] <felixjet> and the other, tell me a good partitioner for kubuntu, easy usage please Xd
[07:29] <smaggard_> sudo nano /boot/grub.conf i believe.. you may have to mount /boot
[07:29] <Jucato> felixjet: edit menu.lst with kate
[07:29] <Jucato> or nano
[07:29] <j_> hey guys
[07:29] <hemant> hello
[07:29] <hemant> does anyone know how to make firefox or konqueror open konversation by defualt for irc links
[07:29] <Jucato> sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:29] <j_> i have an nvidia card, how do i turn on 3d acceleration in X
[07:29] <smaggard_> or is that gentooish?
[07:30] <smaggard_> j_> download the nvidia driver
[07:30] <j_> i downloaded nvidia-glx
[07:30] <smaggard_> then install it... then in xorg.conf change the driver from nv to nvidia :D
[07:30] <j_> how do i install the driver?
[07:30] <smaggard_> hold on
[07:30] <smaggard_> ill get you a how-to
[07:30] <j_> alright
[07:31] <Jucato> j_: word of caution, you need to install linux-restricted-modules as well
[07:31] <felixjet> done. and a good/easy partitioner ?
[07:31] <smaggard_> i just had to do this yesterday
[07:31] <j_> what do you mean linux-restritced modules?
[07:31] <Jucato> j_: are you on Dapper or on Edgy? look for the linux-restricted-modules-xxxxxx package that matches the kernel version you are using
[07:32] <j_> i downlaoded kubuntu 6.10
[07:32] <smaggard_> cool ur running edgy like me :D
[07:32] <Jucato> j_: if you are on Edgy, you would most probably be using linux-image-generic, so you need to install linux-restricted-modules-generic
[07:32] <smaggard_> http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/nVIDIA#Installing_the_nVidia_Beta_Driver
[07:32] <j_> so i search for that using adept?
[07:32] <Jucato> smaggard_: did you get the recent nvidia-glx update?
[07:32] <Jucato> j_: yep
[07:32] <smaggard_> just follow the part about nvidia setup, not the beryl if you dont want it.
[07:32] <Jucato> smaggard_: no!!!!
[07:32] <j_> yea i installed nvidia-glx
[07:33] <Jucato> that installs the BETA nvidia driver
[07:33] <smaggard_> j_> the link i posted i used it yesterday and it works fine :D
[07:33] <smaggard_> just follow "Method 1" and youll be good to go
[07:34] <Jucato> well, since it's beta, there's no guarantee that it will always work, though
[07:34] <smaggard_> if you want, go ahead and install beryl, it works too and is freakin' sweeeeet
[07:34] <j_> it says i isntalled the restricted moduees already
[07:34] <smaggard_> cool then your that much ahead lol
[07:34] <nino_> what is beryl??
[07:35] <Jucato> nino_: a fork of compiz...
[07:35] <Jucato> !beryl | nino_
[07:35] <ubotu> nino_: beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[07:35] <unix_infidel> !beryl
[07:35] <ubotu> beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/  -  Please see #ubuntu-xgl for help with beryl.
[07:35] <smaggard_> did you add the repository to your sources.list?
[07:35] <_arthurb> Hi, can someone check a bug in kubuntu edgy ?
[07:35] <nino_> yip
[07:35] <Jucato> smaggard_: he already installed the default nvidia-glx
[07:35] <_arthurb> in kcontrol, try to change the keyboard layout... no layouts are displayed
[07:35] <_arthurb> there are none to choose from
[07:35] <smaggard_> ok then all you gotta do is go to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver from nv to nvidia
[07:36] <smaggard_> restart the x server and there should be a nvidia logo that pops up and then load up kde
[07:36] <Jucato> (me thinks he should backup xorg.conf first, then do "sudo nvidia-xconfig")
[07:36] <j_> that link you gave me isn't opening
[07:36] <smaggard_> if you want higher resolutions, add them to your screen section
[07:36] <_arthurb> can someone confirm ?
[07:36] <j_> smaggard that page isn't opening
[07:37] <nino_> nino's laptop is now pr0n ready!!
[07:37] <lunitik> nino_: :)
[07:37] <smaggard_> all you have to do.... is open xorg.conf... go to the driver part, change 'nv" to "nvidia"
[07:37] <nino_> And all i wanted was mp3 playback :)
[07:37] <smaggard_> LOL
[07:37] <lunitik> nino_: you have a dvd drive? and libdvdcss installed?
[07:37] <felixjet> gparted is good to use?
[07:38] <lunitik> felixjet: the install will handle that for you
[07:38] <Jucato> j_: anyway, if you already have linux-restricted-modules-generic installed and nvidia-glx, all you need to do is "sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf_backup" then "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and restart X (that's the way I do it...)
[07:38] <lunitik> felixjet: stop over thinking
[07:38] <nino_> yep , ill check on libdvdcss now
[07:38] <felixjet> okey xd
[07:38] <felixjet> thats true
[07:38] <j_> k lemme try that
[07:39] <lunitik> felixjet: Thats the great thing about Kubuntu... KDE without requiring thought  :)
[07:39] <felixjet> lunitik: so, if i make a new partition and tell the installer to install it there, i wont lose any of this right? i dont want lose all while installing lmao
[07:39] <felixjet> i mean, this partition, and the data
[07:39] <lunitik> felixjet: you can do that... sure
[07:39] <smaggard_> ummm i wouldnt be lmao if your unbacked data was at risk haha
[07:40] <siliticx> anyone knows how to enable ntfs write access?
[07:40] <siliticx> or how to re-order the choices in grub
[07:40] <felixjet> so if it a risk i even prefer to make the partition now, move the backup, and tell the installer to format/install in this
[07:40] <j_> is restart x the third command?
[07:41] <Jucato> j_: restarting X involves Ctrl+Alt+Backspace (close/save everything you need to save first)
[07:41] <_arthurb> Does anyone know what package contains keyboard layouts ?
[07:41] <j_> ahh ok
[07:41] <nino_> lunitik i had the 64 bit installed at home but switched to 32 bit, more flexible!!
[07:41] <felixjet> smaggard_: is better make the partition now and move a backup data there, or make it with the installer and leave this partition as it is now?
[07:42] <felixjet> im annoying i know but i dont want lose anything :(
[07:42] <unix_infidel> _arthurb: maybe its best to ask in the channel that identifies with your layout language.
[07:42] <lunitik> nino_: I'm definitely going to go with a AMD64 kernel... and libc6-amd64 is around... not sure if I'd lose performance etc...
[07:43] <nino_> lunitik dont think it will affect performance !!
[07:43] <j_> ok after i did that
[07:43] <j_> what do i do?
[07:44] <Jucato> j_: did you see the nvidia logo for a brief moment after restarting X (before the login screen)?
[07:44] <j_> yep
[07:44] <Jucato> ok then. you're ok now :)
[07:44] <j_> nice
[07:44] <j_> haha
[07:44] <siliticx> anyone knows how to enable ntfs write access?
[07:44] <siliticx> or how to re-order the choices in grub
[07:44] <j_> now how would i get my resolution upto 1280x1024
[07:44] <nino_> lunitik i installed the 32 bit for wine, have to run a windaz base prduction system on it, otherwise 64bit was perfect!!
[07:45] <_arthurb> unix_infidel: it has nothing to do with my language
[07:45] <Jucato> j_: System Settings -> Monitor & Display
[07:45] <j_> i went there
[07:45] <_arthurb> no layout is displayed at all
[07:45] <j_> but hte max is 1024x768
[07:45] <lunitik> nino_: I'm thinking of installing vmware server instead for such things... not sure
[07:45] <Jucato> siliticx: for the grub choices, you can just rearrange the choices by cutting and pasting them. just make sure that you follow the "pattern"/blocks of lines
[07:46] <Jucato> j_: hm....
[07:46] <siliticx> huh but where is the file?
[07:46] <Jucato> siliticx: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[07:46] <j_> someone said i have to add the setting or osmethign
[07:46] <nino_> lunitik u know, i did not think about that, so windaz wil be ok on vmware through linux??
[07:46] <unix_infidel> _arthurb: man setxkbmap
[07:47] <nino_> fck Vista!!
[07:47] <lunitik> nino_: sure... via vmware server... I'd imagine so?
[07:47] <lunitik> nino_: of course it wouldn't be native speed...
[07:47] <Jucato> j_: well, you can do this "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" just accept the default answers if you're not sure what to do, then when it comes to the part about asking which resolutions to include, enable the ones that you want. restart X after you're done
[07:47] <lunitik> nino_: VMWare Server is free too! They just want money for VMware ESX Server
[07:47] <_arthurb> anyone knows in what package the keyboard layouts are ?
[07:48] <j_> k ill try that
[07:49] <lunitik> _arthurb: They should be installed... go to KControl > Regional and Accessability > Keyboard Layout  :/
[07:49] <_arthurb> lunitik: yes, nothing is displayed
[07:49] <_arthurb> I can't pick because there is no choice at all
[07:49] <lunitik> _arthurb: I have like 324563786536 keyboard layouts available in there  :/
[07:49] <nino_> mwaha ha ha  Linux is taking over the world ([07:50] <lunitik> nino_: I think thats the plan  :P
[07:50] <Jucato> sshh!!! there might be spies listening...
[07:50] <lunitik> nino_: Companies get to do what they want, without having to invest in an entire operating system... so it works out for everyone  :)
[07:51] <_arthurb> lunitik: I don't ;) that's why I'm asking
[07:51] <nino_> lately alot of companies have switched to linux!!
[07:51] <lunitik> _arthurb: I dunno, this is a default install for the most part...
[07:52] <lunitik> nino_: Not really, Oracle made there Linux initiatives more aggressive... they've been in the Linux landscape for a while though
[07:52] <lunitik> nino_: They were one of the initial Red Hat investors... them, IBM, Novell etc
[07:52] <siliticx> Anyway, beside the look i dont see a point to linux anyway
[07:52] <lunitik> Even Bill Gates invested in Red Hat... although not via Microsoft...
[07:52] <siliticx> cant do .net 3.0 or game properly so im out, peace out
[07:53] <Jucato> O_o
[07:53] <Jucato> and that's supposed to be Linux's fault?
[07:53] <nino_> lunitik Small bussiness here in South Africa have switched over Production, Accounting firms Even our Tax Offices run linux now!!
[07:53] <siliticx> nope, just how the world is done.
[07:53] <lunitik> Mono and Cegega/Wine are both doing Gaming and .NET things
[07:53] <Jucato> considering who owns/made .NET and what technology games use, I'm not surprised.
[07:54] <siliticx> yeah mono which has hardly a .net 2.0 version
[07:54] <siliticx> aaaaand my shitty ATI drivers are erally helping.
[07:54] <Jucato> anyway, let's not get carried into an offtopic discussion, shall we?
[07:54] <Werdnum> I've noticed a "DCOM" used to control Kaffeine and Konversation and such
[07:54] <lunitik> siliticx: oh well... you'll be sadly missed in the community?
[07:54] <Werdnum> is there a tutorial or something on that?
[07:54] <hollywoodb> nino_: a lot of institutions are starting to realize that they can hire a good linux tech (or techs) with long-term employment goals for cheaper than long-term license agreements with your mainstream commercial OS
[07:54] <siliticx> nah, piece, im out, the on;ly reason i came here was for amarok anyway
[07:54] <Jucato> Werdnum: DCOP
[07:55] <Werdnum> bah, same thing :-P
[07:55] <siliticx> too baed theres no amarok for windows, heh
[07:55] <Jucato> not it isn't :P
[07:55] <lunitik> siliticx: Virtual PC
[07:55] <siliticx> ,,,
[07:55] <lunitik> siliticx: you'll be missed  :/
[07:55] <siliticx> heh
[07:55] <Jucato> too bad there's no KDE on Windows, or a good filesystem like ext3 or reiser, etc.
[07:55] <Jucato> he won't :P
[07:56] <siliticx> ill still try to come and hang out while im bored
[07:56] <lunitik> siliticx: I was being sarcastic...
[07:56] <nino_> hollywoodb and some outsourcing vendors make a killing with windowa support here!!
[07:56] <siliticx> juc, nope it haaas only 1 thing. compatibility, which is the most important ^^
[07:56] <lunitik> siliticx: By the way, god invented game consoles for gaming
[07:56] <siliticx> thats why im getting a ps3 ;P
[07:56] <nino_> Linux is really starting to step up now!!
[07:56] <felixjet> i forgot the tar -XXX to backup a folder... can someone say them please
[07:56] <siliticx> least  ill be stuck with liux on it for a while ;P
[07:56] <felixjet> the parameters
[07:57] <hollywoodb> Jucato: I was really hoping WinFS would make the grade, if only to offer something new and provide incentive for the competition
[07:57] <Jucato> hollywoodb: guess you're hopes were shattered :)
[07:57] <lunitik> felixjet: sudo apt-get install dirvish
[07:57] <siliticx> yeah, and ill go code in winFX, cya ;P
[07:58] <felixjet> lunitik: its like keep?
[07:58] <felixjet> !dirvish
[07:58] <ubotu> dirvish: Filesystem based backup system using rsync. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2.1-1 (edgy), package size 58 kB, installed size 244 kB
[07:58] <lunitik> hollywoodb: It did provide incentive...
[07:58] <lunitik> hollywoodb: Even if WinFS never produced... KDE folks are working on what WinFS provided
[07:59] <felixjet> $ dirvish
[07:59] <felixjet> ERROR: no master configuration file
[07:59] <hollywoodb> lunitik: GnomeFS (File Storage) is under active development as well... I guess I'm all about new products and innovation, even if it isn't coming from the camps I like to support
[08:00] <lunitik> hollywoodb: GnomeFS is about to die afaik... and provides nothing like WinFS promised
[08:00] <Werdnum> is there a konversation script for amarok integration?
[08:00] <hollywoodb> lunitik: gimme a minute, i might have that name wrong
[08:00] <lunitik> Werdnum: yes
[08:00] <Werdnum> lunitik: where is it?
[08:00] <Jucato> Werdnum: what do you mean by "amarok integration"?
[08:01] <method|> Werdnum: theres a built in announce script
[08:01] <Werdnum> Jucato: NP on request, control it from x-chat
[08:01] <method|> i wrote one also
[08:01] <method|> amaroK|mp3 [a: mackshit s: Mack Lessons Radio #47.mp3]  [28:51/128] 
[08:01] <lunitik> Werdnum: hmm... I don't see it either... but there is such a thing... because folks in #kde do it all the time  :/
[08:02] <Jucato> ah, I don't think there is one by default, I mean controlling Amarok from Konvi
[08:02] <Jucato>  /media shows the current playing song
[08:02] <nino_> whatever you do dont ask for mp3 support in amarok!! LOL!!
[08:02] <Werdnum> yay
[08:03] <lunitik> nino_: #amarok is for the client... they don't support xine/gstreamer/helix there... they just use those backends...
[08:03] <Jucato> Werdnum: you might try looking in kde-apps.org if such a script exists (controlling Amarok from Konversation)
[08:03] <dooowweeedoo> hey
[08:03] <dooowweeedoo> who was talking to j_
[08:03] <hollywoodb> lunitik: Gnome Storage was what I was aiming at: http://www.gnome.org/~seth/storage/
[08:03] <dooowweeedoo> awhile ago about the resolutions
[08:04] <nino_> oooh
[08:04] <lunitik> hollywoodb: ahh... I haven't heard from that guy in a while....
[08:04] <Jucato> dooowweeedoo: I was, I think
[08:04] <dooowweeedoo> yea
[08:04] <dooowweeedoo> its me
[08:04] <dooowweeedoo> hah
[08:04] <dooowweeedoo> it kinda screwed up
[08:04] <dooowweeedoo> screen went black
[08:04] <Jucato> dooowweeedoo: then?
[08:04] <dooowweeedoo> when i changed it to 1280x1024
[08:04] <dooowweeedoo> and finish the rest of the setup
[08:04] <dooowweeedoo> i restarted x
[08:04] <dooowweeedoo> and it went black
[08:05] <dooowweeedoo> with some red letters at the top
[08:05] <dooowweeedoo> and it stayed like that
[08:05] <lunitik> hollywoodb: you can tell its old because the gnome pics still only have Applications and Actions or whatever
[08:05] <hollywoodb> lunitik: actually from what I see of Gnome 3.0 mockups that's where 3.0 is heading... seems its mostly "task-orientated" ... though I'll admit I haven't bothered to check the last time CVS on Storage was modified
[08:06] <Jucato> dooowweeedoo: when happens, press Ctrl+Alt+F1, log in (command line), then "sudo nvidia-xconfig" again. then "startx"
[08:06] <dooowweeedoo> so should i start in recovery mode
[08:06] <dooowweeedoo> ?
[08:06] <dooowweeedoo> and run that command?
[08:07] <Jucato> dooowweeedoo: not necessary, when you get to that blank screen, just press Ctrl+Alt+F1
[08:07] <dooowweeedoo> ahh ok
[08:07] <hollywoodb> lunitik: I'm thinking it'll be along the lines of putting Gnome 2.x into maintenance mode for a good long time until corporate environments fine it worth their time and upgrade... sort of how CentOS and *buntu LTS work
[08:07] <dooowweeedoo> ill try that
[08:09] <lunitik> Although, to be fair, no corporation would push those things out without testing... but still
[08:11] <hollywoodb> lunitik: Ubuntu is still pretty young in the corporate world... from what I've experience the first word that comes up when linux migration gets mentioned is "RedHat"
[08:14] <lunitik> hollywoodb: Depends... Whenever I've talked about it with people, they tend to say "SUSE!" ... which is what IBM, and now Microsoft will tell you too...
[08:14] <root> alright that worked
[08:15] <lunitik> Don't IRC as root
[08:15] <j_> k
[08:15] <j_> i don't know i think my settings went to default
[08:15] <hollywoodb> lunitik: maybe its just me, but SuSE rubs me the wrong way... I *really* don't like popping open any given config file in /etc/ that I *know* how to edit to suit my purposes and there's twelve lines of comments placed inconveniently there by yaST.
[08:15] <lunitik> Logout and back in as a normal user....
[08:15] <j_> how do i do that?
[08:16] <MistaED> where are the mockups for topaz/gnome3?
[08:16] <method|> SuSE sucks for one reason and one reason only
[08:16] <lunitik> hollywoodb: Comments are always good.... even if you know what you're doing
[08:16] <method|> the YaST/xen bugs
[08:16] <method|> the package management in the newest suse is severely broken and slow
[08:17] <method|> its worse than yum
[08:17] <method|> that says alot
[08:17] <lunitik> method|: They were the first to try and put pretty buttons over Xen.... there is going to be issues
[08:17] <hollywoodb> lunitik: yeah, but not when they consist of "Do Not edit this file manually!" and variants... I also don't like the immense number of cross-dependencies, its as if its a Gentoo system with every possible USE flag enabled, but to each their own I guess.
[08:17] <lunitik> method|: Everyone knows about the package management issues... they are improving for newest SUSE though
[08:17] <method|> i hope they do
[08:18] <method|> PCLinuxOS is the best rpm distro imo
[08:18] <method|> i love pclos
[08:18] <lunitik> PCLinuxOS is Mandriva One with a goofy looking theme  :/
[08:18] <hollywoodb> method|: cpu scaling and suspend/resume are broken on my laptop... I can get it to work with my own scripts, but neither mandriva nor pclinuxos will let it happen by default
[08:18] <Healot> and bad packaging...
[08:19] <method|> PCLOS is mandriva one but ten times better
[08:19] <lunitik> Healot: They just use Mandriva packages, so you can't blame that on them   :P
[08:19] <method|> with better fonts by default, multimedia support, a great community, and a nice package manager (apt-get)
[08:19] <method|> they just have a few major bugs that prevents me from using it (ipw2200 wep bug)
[08:20] <lunitik> method|: They'll change the package manager soon... they have to, apt4rpm is dead... and PCLinuxOS folks aren't talented enough to maintain it
[08:20] <hollywoodb> PCLinuxOS is "nice", but why do I want to write acpi scripts when I could be here tell you people how I don't want to write acpi scritps?!  *smirk*
[08:20] <hollywoodb> man I can't spell tonite
[08:20] <Shaddar> hi ... how can i change the device an interface is using ? (my wireless-lan-interface uses the ethernet-controller instead of my wlan-adapter :| )
[08:21] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: you mean like eth0 or eth1 ?
[08:21] <Shaddar> yes
[08:21] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: if they're consistent in their device assignments it shouldn't matter, are they erratic?
[08:22] <method|> [01:20]  <lunitik> method|: They'll change the package manager soon... they have to, apt4rpm is dead... and PCLinuxOS folks aren't talented enough to maintain it
[08:22] <method|> will be interesting to see what happens
[08:22] <Shaddar> when i'm looking up with ifconfig eth1 is my wlan-adapter, bzw iwconfig shows my ethernet-controller as eth1
[08:22] <Shaddar> @ hollywoodb
[08:22] <Shaddar> bzw=but oO
[08:23] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: does iwconfig say eth1 has wireless extensions?
[08:23] <Shaddar> yes
[08:23] <Shaddar> and the mac-address doesn't fit with the mac-adr. of my wlanadapter
[08:24] <j_> hey jucato
[08:24] <Jucato> hi j_. did it work?
[08:24] <j_> yea thanks
[08:24] <j_> haha
[08:24] <j_> where can i find the xserver config file?
[08:24] <Healot> it's /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:24] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: don't know why wlan don't work automatically ... one week ago i installed kubuntu first time and wlan worked without probs, yesterday is reinstalled and nothing works :(
[08:25] <Shaddar> -s
[08:26] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: well, you can set module aliases that say "when I load wlan driver I make it eth1 no matter what"... although it shouldn't be necessary
[08:27] <j_> smaggard
[08:27] <j_> can you send me that windows mounting how to
[08:27] <Jucato> !ntfs
[08:27] <ubotu> To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[08:27] <j_> thanks
[08:27] <Jucato> j_: ^^^^^
[08:27] <j_> thanks
[08:27] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: yes, but why are there different controllers listed as eth1 ? i thought this must be consistent (so eth1 = wlan and eth0 = ethernet for example)
[08:28] <jobless_> guys does anybody know a reader for reading simple captchas?
[08:28] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: well, depending on the card and driver, you can get multiple /dev/ nodes for a single device... it isn't uncommon for madwifi driver to create /dev/ath0 (with wireless extensions) and /dev/wlan0 or /dev/wifi0 (without wifi extensions, ironically)
[08:29] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: and they will be listed in iwconfig and ifconfig seperately, but with same MAC address... if your mac addresses aren't matching, something is wrong
[08:30] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: yes, the mac's aren't matching ... don't know why, last installation this problem didn't occure ... i reinstalled kubuntu twice yesterday and both times this prob
[08:30] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: and if that is indeed the case (MAC addresses aren't correct), its relatively trivial to fix...
[08:30] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: this doc is for RedHat, but the syntax in the first 'code' box is the important part: http://www.linux.com/guides/solrhe/Securing-Optimizing-Linux-RH-Edition-v1.3/chap8sec88.shtml
[08:31] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: where it says 'alias...' ... on a kubuntu box you can put those lines in /etc/modprobe.d/arch-aliases
[08:32] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: so if you know which module is for which card you can force it to eth1 or eth0.. but if one is ath0 you should keep forcing it to ath0, not change it to eth1, for example
[08:33] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: hm, what do you mean with "module" ? i can identify my wlan-adapter through mac (don't know if this helps me ^^)
[08:34] <richee_> hello
[08:34] <Shaddar> <-- linux-beginner :|
[08:34] <richee_> <
[08:35] <richee_> this was unexpected
[08:35] <richee_> as in link from ubuntu web site got me here
[08:36] <richee_> anywat,  i need some help with wireless and static ip, please
[08:37] <lunitik> method|: Interesting? how... they'll likely just adopt smart  :/
[08:37] <method|> yeah i can see that happening
[08:38] <method|> smart is pretty good tho
[08:38] <method|> thats what half of opensuse 10.1 users are using
[08:38] <richee_> wireless staic ip - help -please;)
[08:39] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: takes a bit of know-how I guess... I know my wlan card is an Intel 2915ABG which is supported by the ipw2200 driver... I know on my desktop my NIC is an nforce3 ethernet card which is supported by 'forcedeth' module
[08:40] <Shaddar> the chipset is intel 2200BG so i guess it needs the ipw2200 driver as well ^^
[08:40] <j_> hey jucato
[08:40] <j_> do you have any other ideas
[08:40] <j_> on how to get 1280 resolution
[08:40] <j_> ?
[08:40] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: but it seems that something doesn't work
[08:41] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: yep... and if you know your NIC it isn't 'terribly' hard to figure out... if its a realtek there's a good chance the module starts with rt, broadcom likely to start with bc.. all viewable via 'lsmod'
[08:41] <richee_> would some kind soul please respond to my request.  I've been trying for 2 weeks to get any form of linux server wiv samba and lamp going for two weeks.  I've samba,  I've got lamp.  Now all I need is a static ip over my wireless,  PLEAS EPLEASE b4 I go insane (perhaps it's too l8)
[08:41] <hollywoodb> richee_: got a router?
[08:41] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: sry for asking : NIC ? :o
[08:42] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: Network Interface Controller == network card ;) generally meaning ethernet, not wifi
[08:42] <richee_> I got a wireless connection working,  but only wiv DHCP.  Idealy I'd like wireless wivout the gui but i've given up there
[08:42] <hollywoodb> richee_: got a router?
[08:42] <richee_> yes
[08:42] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: i guess it's an intelchip as well
[08:43] <hollywoodb> richee_: set your router to assign IP via MAC address, then you can use dhcp on your system and get the same IP every time
[08:43] <harmental> hye everybody....
[08:43] <richee_> thought of that,  my wireless router has no such option.  would ave been ideal
[08:43] <harmental> what is the correct ligne for the fstab when mounting a fat32 disk (iocharset, nls and codepage options)
[08:45] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: it'll probably take a bit of experimentation, but if you can identify which module is for which card you can use alias lines like those in /etc/modprobe.d/arch-aliases
[08:45] <richee_> but hey,  you've given me an idea,  possibly there's a firmware update to take care of it.  I'll check it out, unlikelt but worth a try
[08:45] <hollywoodb> richee_: well, it isn't a kde app, but I've used wifi-radar successfully before, it's dead-easy to set up
[08:45] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: oh, my ethernetcontroller is a broadcom gigabit ethernet (looked for it with lspci)
[08:46] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: then there's a good chance the module for that card starts with 'bc'... perhaps 'bc43xx' or something similar
[08:46] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: how can i look for the module-name ?
[08:47] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: sudo lsmod | less
[08:48] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: will list modules
[08:48] <richee_> Tried that this morning but all it did was loose me my connection.  I think it's cos I gom bcm43xx.  I've had all sorts of problems just getting that working,  especially wiv wpa.
[08:49] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: thx, but neither a module with "bc" starting nor with 2200 or something similar :|
[08:50] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: might take a little more research then... I don't pretend to know what every single module represents, although I wouldn't mind having those bragging rights ;)
[08:51] <richee_> anyways,  thnx.   I'm gonna have a look @ stting the router to dish out the ip for me.  I looked at this a couple of weeks ago,  no joy,  but I've a feeling there's a way.  So I'm off googling, and cheers,  I'm slightly more sane than b4 ;)
[08:52] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: so i have no chance of getting my wlan work without detailled search, right ? ^^
[08:54] <richee_> holywoodb: anyways,  thnx.   I'm gonna have a look @ stting the router to dish out the ip for me.  I looked at this a couple of weeks ago,  no joy,  but I've a feeling there's a way.  So I'm off googling, and cheers,  I'm slightly more sane than b4 ;)
[08:55] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: probably, if you search google for what 'lspci' says the chip is you should find out which module pretty quick
[08:59] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: you mena something like this : Broadcom BCM5751M Gigabit-LAN, works, using the tg3 kernel module ?
[08:59] <Shaddar> mena=mean oO
[08:59] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: could be, BCM5751M is the important part, so if 'lsmod' lists the 'tg3' module, there ya go
[09:00] <Shaddar> no it doesn't list it :(
[09:02] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: you could always post the output of 'lspci' and 'lsmod', as well as 'ifconfig' and 'iwconfig' to the forums and wait a response
[09:04] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: thx (typing all the lines manually sucks -.-)
[09:05] <|joe|> helo
[09:05] <xsacha> !kernel
[09:05] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[09:05] <xsacha> !reconfigure
[09:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about reconfigure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:05] <xsacha> any ideas how i can reconfigure my kernel to add something in? or i have to compile?
[09:06] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: in konsole you can highlight and rightclick->copy also, if you highlight and then middle-click somewhere else it will paste... this works for terminal and *all* things linux
[09:07] <hollywoodb> xsacha: read the second link you got from "!kernel"
[09:07] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: yes, but without any connection to other pcs or the internet i can't c&p ^^
[09:07] <xsacha> so i have to compile it?
[09:07] <hollywoodb> xsacha: not necessarily, read that document
[09:08] <Shaddar> hollywoodb : irc is running on dekstop-pc not on laptop
[09:08] <xsacha> cant i just do something to reconfigure kernel?
[09:08] <Shaddar> desktop
[09:08] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: OK, then: lsmod > lsmod.txt
[09:08] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: that'll make a file lsmod.txt with the output from lsmod
[09:08] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: (oh, and sudo first if needed)... you can do that with any command
[09:09] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: then use a floppy/usb drive/CDR to copy it over
[09:09] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: oh, right ^^ usb-stick i... good idea, thx ^^
[09:10] <Shaddar> gn8 ^^
[09:12] <richee_> hollywoodb:  Your suggestion has born fruit.  My router does not support if allocation natively,  but I've found a third party firmware provider that will enable this feature.  Looks like this is going to solve my problem,  cheers
[09:13] <richee_> hollywoodb:  ip allocation  not if  ;)
[09:19] <Shaddar> anyone an idea why my usbstick always deletes every file/folder i copy to it with linux ? (are there any necessary actions before copying to an usbsstick in linux) ?
[09:20] <|joe|> Shaddar: do you always correctly umount?
[09:20] <Jucato> Safely Remove
[09:20] <Shaddar> |joe|: no ... don't know how because the terminal for examples doesn't work with usb-stick cause of quotes in name (perhaps i'm to stupid to get it work ^^)
[09:21] <|joe|> Shaddar: what do you mean terminal doesn't work with usb-stick?
[09:22] <Shaddar> |joe|: i was trying to copy the files by terminal (cp)
[09:22] <|joe|> Shaddar: and how did you mount the usb stick? via kde?
[09:22] <Shaddar> |joe| : but my usb-stick wasn't accepted as a folder to copy in
[09:23] <Shaddar> |joe| : yes ... asked if i want to open usbstick in new window ... clikced ok (so it has to be mounted automatically right ? )
[09:23] <|joe|> Shaddar: yes it should
[09:24] <Shaddar> |joe|: how do i unmount it manually ? (safely remove didn't work as well :( )
[09:24] <|joe|> Shaddar: generally you have to always unmount the usb mass storage devices before detaching them
[09:24] <|joe|> Shaddar: you can do it eg then by clicking on the device icon in kde and selecting safely remove as Jucato suggested
[09:25] <|joe|> Shaddar: otherwise the data can get only cached in your computer; by "safely remove" they will be flushed to your stick
[09:25] <Shaddar> |joe|: didnt work ^^ safely removed devide, put it back in usb-slot and files are deleted :(
[09:25] <Shaddar> device
[09:25] <|joe|> Shaddar: that's the worse cast
[09:25] <|joe|> e
[09:26] <Shaddar> |joe|: oh oO second time trying to remove safely it worked oO
[09:26] <Jucato> :P
[09:27] <|joe|> not _that_ worse after all :)
[09:27] <|joe|> but i had once a usb card reader for sc cards that worked flawlessly under winxp
[09:27] <Shaddar> did exactly the same actions ... first time didn't work, second time it worked ... sometimes i don't understand computers oO
[09:28] <|joe|> and on linux i couldn't fill it to more than 50% .... the fs got always corrupted
[09:28] <|joe|> but it was no name so i assume it was just standard-unfriendly or similar
[09:30] <Shaddar> hm ... the format by copying for example "lsmod > lsmod.txt" is really bad oO no wordwrap -.-
[09:30] <Jucato> ??
[09:30] <|joe|> ?
[09:30] <Jucato> mine has
[09:35] <Shaddar> hm ... after c&p there is wordwrap ... in editor not
[09:54] <harmental> hi everybody....
[09:54] <harmental> i have an encoding problem...
[09:55] <harmental> i have my box set to UTF...
[09:55] <harmental> however i often work with windows files using special chars (  )
[09:56] <harmental> when i open those files with kate (kate is set to utf) strange symbols appear...
[09:56] <harmental> if i set kate to use ISO text is ok again....
[09:57] <harmental> is there a way to let kate (and the rest pieces of software for that matter) set to UTF while preserving compatibility w/ Windows?
[10:00] <harmental> anybody?
[10:01] <ME> geia
[10:03] <Admiral_Chicago> harmental: not everyone is around or knows the answer
[10:14] <Schalken> how can i reset the kmenu?
[10:15] <mat__> Hallo
[10:15] <mat__> =)
[10:15] <Jucato> Schalken: "kbuildsycoca --incremental" ? (what do you mean by "reset"?
[10:16] <Schalken> Jucato: im trying to undo some edits i made
[10:16] <Schalken> will that undo them all?
[10:16] <Jucato> Schalken: ah. no. that command "refreshes" K Menu.. sorry
[10:16] <mat__> I got a question: Even though I installed kdmtheme via apt-get I cannot find it in Systemproperties... Why? (got edgy eft)
[10:17] <Schalken> Jucato: "refreshes"?
[10:17] <Jucato> Schalken: for example, if you installed a program that doesn't immediately show up in K Menu.you need to refresh it
[10:18] <Schalken> Jucato: ah okay
[10:18] <Jucato> mat__: it's a bug. you need to use KControl (Alt+F2, "kcontrol")_
[10:18] <mat__> Jucato: that's annoying... =S
[10:19] <Jucato> mat__: it's a bug. of course it's annoying :P
[10:19] <Jucato> Schalken: not entirely sure, but this would completely undo all. go to ~/.config/menus and delete the applications-menu file there
[10:20] <mat__> Jucato: so why it get's not fixed... =P gg
[10:20] <Schalken> Jucato: thats the file that contains my manual configuration and if i delete it it goes back to sysdefault?
[10:20] <Jucato> mat__: because it's a new bug (only in Edgy)? and might require a bit more fixing than a simple patch
[10:20] <Jucato> Schalken: I believe so
[10:21] <mat__> Jucato: it works! Thx a lot! *thumbsup*
[10:22] <Jucato> ok
[10:23] <mat__> Other question: My hardware-monitor is 1280x800 but Xorg uses 12024x768. How can I fix this? (with WinXP Home it does work, have an Acer Aspire 1640ZWLMi)
[10:23] <mat__> of course 1024x768... sorry, typo
[10:24] <mat__> I already tried manualy to fix this, but xorg.conf get's overwritten. (gues by kde)
[10:25] <mat__> tried also sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg but after a xserver restart it overwrites my xorg.conf...
[10:25] <mat__> can sb help?
[10:27] <|joe|> mat__: when do you think  it gets overwritten? in kdm?
[10:27] <mat__> joe: i only gues...
[10:28] <mat__> joe: i tried with KDE-Monitor but there also it doesn't work... damned!
[10:28] <mat__> joe: could it be, that i got shared memory?
[10:30] <|joe|> mat__: ?
[10:31] <mat__> joe: i got 1024mb ram and my graphiccard uses the ram as videoram. you know sharedmemory...
[10:31] <|joe|> mat__: i'm not actually sure what is your problem
[10:31] <|joe|> mat__: but if you want to you can try the following
[10:31] <|joe|> mat__: shut down kde and x, stop kdm
[10:31] <|joe|> mat__: fix xorg.conf
[10:32] <|joe|> mat__: and run X manually (X in the console)
[10:32] <zoetrope666> hi all :) can someone help me > i've been downloading different login window themes and trying them out, however in the process i appear to have lost the 'restart' and 'shutdown' options from both my login window at startup, and from my quit menu at shutdown. is this fixable? im using ubuntu
[10:32] <|joe|> mat__: if you don't have the right resolution, you have a problem :)
[10:33] <mat__> joe: will try... brb brb
[10:33] <|joe|> mat__: provided that you're not fiddling with system settings with root privileges in kde
[10:40] <harmental> i have simple question here......
[10:40] <mat__> joe: re
[10:40] <harmental> how can i share an usb-memory between kubuntu (edgy) and windows (xp) regarding the encoding
[10:40] <harmental> utf for linux
[10:41] <mat__> joe: well my xorg.conf file is correct, but it doesn't look like as if my resolution is correct...
[10:41] <harmental> when i create text files with special chars (  ) in win they don work in linux
[10:41] <lupine_85> harmental: winxp should be able to do utf8 as well
[10:42] <harmental> the other way round works nicely...
[10:42] <lupine_85> really it's a windows support question :/ -- it's probably using iso-8859-1
[10:42] <lupine_85> maybe try #windows ? :)
[10:43] <|joe|> mat__: can you take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[10:43] <|joe|> lupine_85: windows and utf8? i haven't heard of it
[10:43] <harmental> lupine_85: well...i dont know what windows does ....but i can assure that i cant modify nor create utf files with xp
[10:43] <rolando_> hola
[10:43] <rolando_> how can i make my sd card reader work again with edgy?
[10:44] <mat__> |joe| mean KSystemLog->X.Org-Protocol?
[10:44] <|joe|> mat__: maybe, i use less /var/log/Xblabla :)
[10:44] <lupine_85> any relatively modern OS "should" be able to...
[10:45] <|joe|> harmental: i'd say windows uses its special codepages
[10:45] <lupine_85> do the special characters made in windows, appear in windows?
[10:45] <Schalken> what do i need to do to get konqueror to detect the java plugin?
[10:45] <harmental> yes...
[10:45] <|joe|> harmental: you should probably play with mount and iocharset, codepage parameters
[10:45] <lupine_85> if so, you could force ubuntu to read & write the usb stick with that codepage, but that's a nasty hack
[10:45] <lupine_85> personally i'd fix/dump windows :)
[10:46] <|joe|> lupine_85: what win do you have? (lang)
[10:46] <lupine_85> I don't have Windows at all
[10:46] <lupine_85> PoS
[10:47] <|joe|> Schalken: did you look at the java tab in konq settings?
[10:47] <|joe|> oh sorry
[10:47] <|joe|> harmental:  what win do you have? (lang)
[10:47] <rolando_> i get sd card detected in socket 3
[10:47] <Schalken> |joe|: what needs to be configured?
[10:47] <harmental> |joe|: english
[10:47] <harmental> xp
[10:48] <rolando_> dmesg
[10:48] <|joe|> harmental: ehm and what special chars do you mean?
[10:48] <|joe|> Schalken: konq settings, java & java script, globally enable java, and the correct binary
[10:48] <|joe|> Schalken: i'd suggest sun 1.5
[10:48] <Trist_an> hello
[10:48] <mat__> |joe|: well, it says that it loaded it with 1280x800, but I don't trust, because my icons are so stretched...
[10:49] <Trist_an> I have uninstalled powernowd and I want to reinstall it. But now, synaptic tells me he will uninstall kubuntu-desktop. How can I just tell him to just reinstall powernowd without uninstalling kubuntu-desktop?
[10:49] <lunitik> |joe|: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-plugin from multiverse and everything will be fine
[10:49] <lunitik> Trist_an: sudo apt-get install --reinstall
[10:49] <|joe|> lunitik: and set alternatives ... right now i forgot how
[10:49] <harmental> |joe|: &  *  
[10:49] <Schalken> |joe|: i have sun-java5-plugin and dependencies. path is correct ('java') and enabled globally, however, it does not show up when i do 'scan for new plugins' in the plugins side-tab.
[10:50] <lunitik> |joe|: that package automatically handles alternatives via the post-inst script....
[10:50] <|joe|> harmental: well i can't read it either :)
[10:50] <|joe|> lunitik: are you sure? i had to change it manually .....
[10:51] <|joe|> mat__: so try changing xorg.conf to 1280x768 and see if something changes
[10:51] <ortigosa> somebody knows where can i find themes for kubuntu???
[10:51] <harmental> i dont understand.....
[10:51] <mat__> |joe| again brb... =)
[10:52] <noiesmo> ortigosa, check out kde-look.org
[10:52] <ortigosa> than k you very much
[10:52] <Schalken> |joe|: anything else i need to do?
[10:52] <rolando_> no1 has a laptop with sd card reader?
[10:52] <rolando_> it worked with dappe
[10:52] <rolando_> r
[10:52] <|joe|> Schalken: i think that should be everything ...btw my binary in konq settings is /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun/bin/java
[10:52] <rolando_> but now it wont work again
[10:53] <|joe|> rolando_: the only thing about built-in card readers in laptops is that they like to crash the comp
[10:53] <|joe|> rolando_: the only thing i know, sorry :)
[10:53] <rolando_> |joe|: it worked before
[10:54] <Schalken> |joe|: is it supposed to show up when i do 'scan for new plugins'?
[10:55] <|joe|> Schalken: i'm not sure
[10:55] <|joe|> Schalken: i did it maybe half year ago
[10:55] <Schalken> |joe|: does it show up on yours? all i have is flash and kaffeine plugins under 'netscape'?
[10:56] <|joe|> Schalken: the java settings are not in the plugins
[10:56] <Schalken> |joe|: okay
[10:57] <mat__> |joe| re
[10:58] <|joe|> mat__:
[10:58] <mat__> |joe|: it looks exactly the same... no difference... that sucks...
[10:58] <mat__> |joe|: well, at least it works!=D
[10:59] <|joe|> mat__: hm, but that's not good, is it :)
[11:00] <MRMorefield-ft> hhow to uninstal?
[11:00] <MRMorefield-ft> sudo apt-get
[11:00] <|joe|> mat__: so your X log says it's in 1280x800, but it's only in 1280x768, right?
[11:01] <mat__> |joe|: on my homecomputer I didn't got my soundcard working, THAT was annoying! In the end a friend of mine got i fixed... =)
[11:01] <mat__> |joe| looks like as i had school now... llap! *waves*
[11:07] <pred2k3> how to install rpms under debian?
[11:08] <|joe|> pred2k3: if you really need to you can use alien and hope everything works
[11:10] <suhaib> hi
[11:11] <lunitik> pred2k3: alien --to-deb some.rpm ... sudo dpkg -i some.deb
[11:11] <pred2k3> thx
[11:11] <pred2k3> ^
[11:12] <adam_> I have just installed edgy+kubuntu, and I am tryign to work out how to configure multiple panels in kde. I right click the panel, go to 'Configure Panel...', but tehre is no option to choose the other pannel I added. Anyone know where it has gone? Thanks.
[11:12] <|joe|> adam_: right click on panel and select add new panel
[11:13] <Admiral_Chicago> adam_: scroll down in the drop down menu?
[11:13] <lunitik> adam_: all configuration should apply to both panels... theres also an option in Kcontrol > Desktop > Panels > Appearance under "Advanced"
[11:13] <adam_> thanks. I have done that - I have 2 panels. but on the configure screen i can only change the first one
[11:14] <lunitik> That option is only applicable if its a menu panel though
[11:15] <ohmbr> hi, i'm having problems to configure abnt2 keyboards... does somebody could help me?
[11:15] <adam_> 'right click > add new pannel' doesnt seem to have an option for a menu panel
[11:15] <twosouls82> good day :)
[11:16] <ohmbr> where can i find a good tutorial about that?/
[11:16] <freewill> how shoud the thing look that i have to add like deb url edgy-backports... for libxine extras/win32codecs on edgy?
[11:16] <adam__> I have just installed edgy+kubuntu, and I am tryign to work out how to configure multiple panels in kde (I have already added an addition Panel). I right click the panel, go to 'Configure Panel...', but there is no option to choose the other pannel I added. Anyone know where it has gone? Thanks.
[11:17] <twosouls82> !restrictedformats | freewill
[11:17] <ubotu> freewill: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:19] <adam_> lunitik: I was sure in pervious versions I could configure different panels independantly. Ie have one small one at the top, and one big on at the bottom
[11:19] <maryen> hi
[11:20] <lunitik> adam_: I'm not sure... I have a small menu panel and large regular panel though... perhaps this is what you did before?
[11:20] <twosouls82> what is the name of the tool that helps me cleaning up my installation, by asking me which package to keep, again?
[11:20] <Shaddar> anyone knows good how-to's for installing and configure kubuntu ?
[11:20] <twosouls82> Shaddar: any specific subjecy?
[11:20] <adam_> lunitik: Ok, thanks. can you tell me how to add a menu panel? it doesnt seem to be on the add new panel list
[11:21] <twosouls82> s/subjecy/subject
[11:21] <Trist_an> Is there anyway to have a shortcut in konqueror to disply the files in a list?
[11:21] <twosouls82> Trist_an: choose the detail view and then save the view in the Filemanager profile
[11:21] <Shaddar> twosouls82: not really ... want a stable system to work with
[11:22] <lunitik> adam_: KControl > Desktop > Behavior  "Application Bar" or whatever in the middle...
[11:22] <twosouls82> Shaddar: you should really check out the wiki of ubuntu; it has (almost) all your answers
[11:22] <Trist_an> twosouls82, that will activate this by default for all the time. I just want a shortcut so I can switch to details when I want
[11:23] <Shaddar> twosouls82: the how-to's there work for kde as well as for gnome ?
[11:23] <twosouls82> Trist_an: in that case, I guess, the answer is no... hence the shortcut isn't configurable for it the the "Configure Shortcuts" dialogue
[11:23] <twosouls82> -the
[11:24] <adam_> lunitik: thanks, but that doesnt seem to be it. it was definatly a seperate panel I could configure
[11:24] <adam_> thanks for the help tho
[11:26] <oswaldo> someone know configure devide on LTSP??
[11:26] <oswaldo> how cd-rom,floppy etc all this about client LTSP?
[11:26] <oswaldo> active cd-rom,floppy,pendrive in client LTSP?
[11:48] <|joe|> lunitik: i think you can't actually change settings for the menu bar, can you?
[11:49] <|joe|> lunitik: now i think this was what adam was looking for
[11:52] <Shaddar> am i connected to a network if wireless assistant says "successfully connected" but the little arrow beside the network is missing ?
[11:53] <hesperus_> hi, how can i burn bin/cue files in linux? i have k3b
[11:54] <lunitik> |joe|: you can change its appearence, but thats about it
[11:54] <lunitik> hesperus_: no idea, I use cdrecord myself... rather than have k3b do it...
[11:55] <[DOW] Shaddar|AFK> am i connected to a network if wireless assistant says "successfully connected" but the little arrow beside the network is missing ? (don't know if question was submitted before disconnect)
[11:55] <hesperus_> lunitik: any one-liner then? :)
[11:55] <lunitik> hesperus_: 'cdrecord dev=/dev/hdwhatever --data some.bin some.cue' should be fine...
[11:55] <|joe|> hesperus_: isn't the .cue just a text file description? i think one can convert somehow
[11:56] <phubeone> hello, got a quick question
[11:56] <hesperus_> |joe|: yeap
[11:56] <phubeone> trying to install xgl
[11:56] <|joe|> and the .bin is actually .iso isnt't it?
[11:56] <phubeone> and i'm running this command
[11:56] <phubeone> sudo apt-get install compiz xserver-xgl libgl1-mesa xserver-xorg libglitz-glx1 compiz-gnome
[11:56] <phubeone> and it says compiz package not found
[11:56] <hesperus_> |joe|: i'm not sure what format is bin exactly... it's as big as an iso
[11:56] <phubeone> i'm a linux noob and just following a guide at ubuntuguide.org
[11:56] <lunitik> phubeone: you need universe at least... although beware that compiz with kde is messy
[11:57] <|joe|> lunitik: hm what do you mean by appearance? i coultn't change anything about it (size, position, background etc)
[11:57] <phubeone> lunitik: ah i just want to check it out.  and what is universe =D
[11:58] <lunitik> phubeone: read the comments in sources.list and do what it says
[11:58] <phubeone> ah gotcha, thanks for the info
[11:58] <phubeone> gonna look that up right now
[11:58] <lunitik> |joe|: you can make it transparent etc... although all panels are configured to be the same afaik
[11:59] <Admiral_Chicago> phubeone: did you ask in #ubuntu-xgl?
[12:00] <phubeone> cool will do chicago
[12:00] <phubeone> thanks for pointing in the right direction.. just learning this
[12:05] <Admiral_Chicago> phubeone: yea i had a lot of help there, it took me a while to get it installed
[12:20] <khirr> ello, what proghram should i use to open rar files
[12:23] <Hobbsee> !rar
[12:23] <ubotu> rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[12:23] <Hobbsee> khirr: ^
[12:24] <khirr> i0m cheking :D
[12:24] <khirr> eating tamal :D
[12:27] <khirr> doent exist this page ;S
[12:27] <khirr> without pointf :D
[12:28] <poe> hope they choke ya
[12:44] <MaterMaravillae> hi, do any of you guys have a geforce 6600 gt?
[12:45] <MaterMaravillae> isn't this too much?
[12:45] <MaterMaravillae> 63098 frames in 5.0 seconds = 12619.496 FPS
[12:45] <MaterMaravillae> (with glxgears -printfps)
[12:45] <lunitik>  ubotu needs a way to link to different wiki pages per channel... the rar factoid should link to something about ark... NOT gnome methods  :/
[12:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about needs a way to link to different wiki pages per channel... the rar factoid should link to something about ark... NOT gnome methods  :/ - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:46] <lunitik> BLAH
[12:46] <gnomefreak> MaterMaravillae: first its not a benchmark and most cards get no where near that concider yourself lucky as hell
[12:46] <lunitik> stupid bot
[12:46] <MaterMaravillae> the thing is, gnomefreak, i was trying that because i dont get to change the resolution, i just get 800x600
[12:47] <MaterMaravillae> in win it happens the same
[12:47] <gnomefreak> !fixres
[12:47] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:47] <MaterMaravillae> reinstalling drivers didn't help
[12:47] <MaterMaravillae> dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg
[12:47] <MaterMaravillae> neither
[12:47] <MaterMaravillae> im afraid its broken
[12:47] <gnomefreak> MaterMaravillae: follow the instructions on the link ubotu posted above
[12:47] <MaterMaravillae> thats why i dont understand so many fps
[12:48] <MaterMaravillae> ok
[12:48] <gnomefreak> MaterMaravillae: first make sure your monitor specs are the same as you have in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:49] <gnomefreak> MaterMaravillae: ubuntu doesnt always set the right refresh rates
[12:49] <MaterMaravillae> yeah i know
[12:50] <MaterMaravillae> what made me think the video card is broken is that i have the same problem in win
[12:52] <MaterMaravillae> im gonna take a look at the card
[12:52] <MaterMaravillae> thx guys
[12:56] <Electrolyte> Can anyone tell me why XOrg is using 10% CPU constantly?
[12:56] <Electrolyte> It never uesd more than 2% in Dapper.
[12:56] <Electrolyte> used*
[12:57] <lunitik> Electrolyte: no idea... you using compiz/xgl?
[12:57] <Electrolyte> Nope.
[12:57] <Electrolyte> Standard X.
[12:58] <lunitik> Electrolyte: fwiw, I think Dapper was the last Xorg maintained by Daniel Stone... he's pretty much an X god... so its hard to compete with his work... although I'm not sure thats the actual issue....
[12:59] <Electrolyte> It's annoying when playing a game like UT2004, as it causes the game to keep skipping every half a second.
[12:59] <Electrolyte> I have to keep restarting X to fix it :/
[01:00] <Electrolyte> Actually, it causes the whole system to skip every half a second :|
[01:03] <khaije> does anyone have an interest in explaining why flac in amarok has been broken for so long?
[01:04] <khaije> (or any advice on setting up kubuntu to use gstreamer)
[01:13] <[GuS] > Bonjour...
[01:13] <delight> on first right click in konqeuror on desktop i either have konqueror crash or some strange warnings about DCopserver or some thing about snv entry
[01:13] <delight> svn not snv
[01:14] <delight> aanybody got the same problem
[01:14] <delight> ?
[01:20] <wildchild> which program is playing files like mediaplayer on the internet: x-mplayer2 maybe?
[01:21] <e1mer> hello all
[01:21] <e1mer> is there a tool to translate wvdial.conf to kppp arguments?
[01:22] <Electrolyte> Well there we go.
[01:22] <Electrolyte> Ctrl + Alt + Backspace fixed the X problem.
[01:23] <Electrolyte> Getting really cheesed off with it now.
[01:23] <Bora> es
[01:23] <Bora> hello
[01:23] <Bora> i need some help
[01:23] <Bora> :)
[01:24] <Bora> how can I set up the source list in kubuntu?
[01:24] <wedgeV> my X resolution gets changed to 640x480 once i log in, in KDM it is a 1680x1050... this never happend before, any ideas?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> !repos | Bora
[01:25] <ubotu> Bora: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:25] <e1mer> is there a tool to translate wvdial.conf to kppp arguments?
[01:25] <MaterMaravillae> wedgeV take a look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:26] <Bora> thank you ubotu
[01:26] <MaterMaravillae> in modes, make sure the highest resolution is the first one
[01:26] <wedgeV> MaterMaravillae: it is
[01:26] <Bora> have a nice day
[01:26] <wedgeV> and it always worked fine
[01:26] <wedgeV> till now
[01:27] <MaterMaravillae> then i cant help you
[01:27] <MaterMaravillae> maybe your card broke up like mine
[01:27] <wedgeV> it works fine in KDM
[01:27] <wedgeV> eg: the login screen is in 1680x1050
[01:28] <yamal> wedgeV: if it has the correct size in kdm but not once logged in, then check the window manager's (kde?) settings
[01:29] <wedgeV> yamal: yea i did, but i can only select 640x480 and 800x600 in kde, and i have never been able to select anything else, but the resolution has always been fine
[01:29] <wedgeV> it even worked fine when i booted earlier today
[01:29] <gnomefreak> !fixres | wedgeV
[01:29] <ubotu> wedgeV: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:30] <wedgeV> i already read that
[01:30] <wedgeV> and my xorg.conf is fine
[01:30] <yamal> the X server isn't the problem since it does work correctly when only kdm is started
[01:30] <wedgeV> yes
[01:31] <wedgeV> the KDE settings didnt have any effect. seems like they do now
[01:34] <yamal> wedgeV: quite some bugs reported on this subject :/
[01:34] <wedgeV> yamal: do you have a url?
[01:34] <yamal> do you have more than one screen in xorg?
[01:36] <wedgeV> no
[01:36] <wedgeV> one, with 1680x1050 as the first mode
[01:39] <yamal> wedgeV: launchpad bug #46875
[01:39] <yamal> seems similar but no solution alas
[01:39] <yamal> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdebase/+bug/46875
[01:40] <yamal> and other than that changing works for them and doesn't for you
[01:40] <wedgeV> yes... i'll take a look at .kde/share/config
[01:41] <yamal> #60465 and #61482 are about not being able to change anything
[01:41] <lola> HELLO!
[01:42] <lola> IS THERE ANYONE THAT CAN SPEAK ITALIAN?????
[01:42] <lola> i'm italian
[01:42] <yamal> !it
[01:42] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:43] <lola> thankkkkkkkkkkkkkk
[01:43] <lola> ciao
[01:51] <dude_> hi guys
[01:51] <dude_> abattoir !
[01:51] <dude_> jucato !
[02:08] <Daylighter> I upgraded to Edgy, and only have one problem. I dont have any sound when I try to view media in firefox
[02:12] <Daylighter> darn USB soundcards anyway
[02:15] <Daylighter> how do I find out what's blocking the sound card/making it busy?
[02:18] <|lostbyte|> Hi ! Any one owning an ipod here ?
[02:19] <|lostbyte|> !ipod
[02:19] <ubotu> For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto
[02:19] <|lostbyte|> ubotu, thanks :)
[02:19] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thanks :) - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:20] <alynx> is the transaction from dapper drake to edgy eft smooth ?
[02:21] <alynx> is it just to change your sources list and then do an dist upgrade ?
[02:22] <apokryphos> alynx: no, that's not enough. Please read the upgrade instructions on kubuntu.org (in the channel topic)
[02:23] <alynx> apokryphos: ah thanks :) did not notice topic ^^
[02:25] <blackflag> can someone tell me how I can see the boot messages during booting of edgy?
[02:25] <alynx> ill leave now , making the upgrade , thanks again
[02:26] <blackflag> there is always the screen is there a keyboard combination?
[02:27] <dhq> where can i get help with coppermine
[02:31] <|joe|> blackflag: i'd say ctrl+alt+f1
[02:45] <Jucato> does anyone know where (or what package installs) the contents of Quanta's documentation panel? (Kubuntu)
[03:03] <Lola> helllo!!!
[03:04] <intelikey> Clarabella
[03:07] <Clarabella> yess
[03:07] <BluesKaj> Howdy all ! :)
[03:10] <intelikey> BluesKaj
[03:12] <intelikey> well, i've ask this already but i'll ask it again.   howto set a veriable in a script that will still be set the next time the script is ran ?
[03:13] <ubuntu> alguien habla espanol
[03:13] <malix0> hi all
[03:13] <intelikey> !es
[03:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:14] <intelikey> malix0
[03:15] <malix0> I need to install debug simbol for kate, so I ahve installed kdebase-dbg, but there are no way to know package relation. I think that a kate-dbg meta package can be a good solution, what do you think?
[03:16] <BluesKaj> hey intelikey, gonna try to gigure out how to get permission to mount shared files on the network
[03:16] <BluesKaj> figure
[03:16] <intelikey> malix0 kdevelop  ?
[03:17] <intelikey> BluesKaj smbmount ?
[03:17] <Meekus> quick question... I just added some aliases in a .bash_aliases file.  Is there a service I can stop and restart to get those aliases loaded without having to do a reboot or logout/login?
[03:17] <malix0> intelikey: kdevelop for wath?
[03:17] <BluesKaj> intelikey, komba
[03:18] <intelikey> Meekus  . .bash_aliases
[03:18] <|joe|> Meekus: afaik the aliases are local to each bash process
[03:18] <|joe|> Meekus: so you'd need to load them in every bash you have open
[03:19] <intelikey> Meekus also they won't affect the gui only the bash shell  (login shells)
[03:21] <Meekus> Ahh ok.  That makes sense.  the goal was to save me a bit of typing - IE: alias sai='sudo apt-get install'
[03:21] <Jucato> Meekus: afaik, the .bash_aliases affects all Konsole sessions
[03:23] <Meekus> I'll play around with it and see what I can come up with.  hehe.. now I am trying to convince myself that I am making things more efficient.. rather than just being lazy lol
[03:23] <lupine_85> what on earth happened to #ubuntu ?
[03:23] <intelikey> Meekus script.   echo -e "#!/bin/sh \nsudo apt-get install $*" > sai ;chmod 555 sai ;chown root:root sai ;sudo mv sai /usr/local/bin
[03:23] <Jucato> lupine_85: why?
[03:23] <lupine_85> from my perspective there are two people in it
[03:24] <Jucato> 877 people...
[03:24] <intelikey> Meekus scripts are easier to play with for things like that.   and as soon as you put it in */bin/ it's ready to use...
[03:24] <lupine_85> ah, yes - konversation being sillty
[03:24] <Meekus> intelikey: I never thought about doing it like that - good deal!
[03:25] <Jucato> intelikey: #!/bin/bash in Edgy
[03:25] <intelikey> Jucato are you telling me that edgy totally breaks posix compliance ?
[03:26] <Jucato> intelikey: afaik, DASH requires more POSIX compliant scripts
[03:26] <intelikey>  /bin/sh   should be a valid inturpretor on any  *nix  system.
[03:26] <instructor> DASH isn't posix?
[03:26] <intelikey> instructor not haveing /bin/sh isn't posix.
[03:27] <lupine_85> dash doesn't work with lots of scripts
[03:27] <Jucato> intelikey: hm.. nvm... I think /bin/sh just links to /bin/dash
[03:27] <Jucato> !dash
[03:27] <ubotu> /bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"
[03:27] <Clarabella> dash
[03:27] <Clarabella> yasch yasch
[03:27] <Clarabella> amltreda
[03:27] <Clarabella> hionk doink
[03:28] <intelikey> lupine_85 the one i just wrote ^^ is the one in question and there is nothing in it that would give the most basic of shells any trubble.
[03:28] <Clarabella> mustrekionw
[03:28] <dimsuz> Hi! It seems like I cant find _any_ info on how update to Edgy using alternate CD. It is said everywhere that it is possible but not how to do this...
[03:28] <Jucato> Clarabella: please don't spam/flood
[03:28] <dimsuz> Any hints? :)
[03:28] <dimsuz> that's my first upgrade of kubuntu...
[03:28] <Clarabella> what?
[03:28] <Clarabella> me too!!!
[03:28] <micke\> I'm having problems with fullscreen in VLC, the panels in KDE stays above the picture. If I check the alternating fullscreen box, the fullscreen works for 0.5 seconds and then reverts to a small window
[03:29] <micke\> anyone know of a solution?
[03:29] <Clarabella> no
[03:29] <intelikey> Jucato unless i'm totally nuts (please reserve comments on that point) bash isn't required on a system to be posix-able  but sh is.
[03:29] <Jucato> intelikey: like I said, I'm confused :)
[03:30] <Jucato> intelikey: anyway, /bin/sh is just a symlink to /bin/dash
[03:30] <Jucato> in Edgy at least
[03:30] <intelikey> was in hoary too
[03:30] <dimsuz> ah. found
[03:30] <dimsuz> "/cdrom/cdromupgrade"
[03:30] <Clarabella> abdull ashalad???
[03:30] <Jucato> intelikey: hoary had dash by default?
[03:30] <intelikey> and dapper    at least as an option.   default might have been sh > bash
[03:31] <Jucato> intelikey: yeah, I think hoary to dapper had /bin/bash by default
[03:31] <Clarabella> sallahashahshasasasasalslalsalllslallalsllfllaldslllhllsllallhlllsllallgllalalaldldldl
[03:31] <Jucato> intelikey: ah now I understand a bit...
[03:31] <Jucato> Clarabella: stop it
[03:31] <intelikey> and also  dpkg-reconfigure bash -plow    will let you set it to  sh > bash on edgy too  no?
[03:32] <Jucato> intelikey: some old (pre-Edgy) BASH scripts need to be edited to use /bin/bash in order to work
[03:32] <Clarabella> preeggyyyyyyyyyy
[03:33] <keb_> can someone help me why my winetools is not running?
[03:33] <intelikey> Jucato yeah because they are "bash" scripts  with a false #!/bin/sh  id tag.    there is nothing wrong with using  #!/bin/bash  1. if it's not a production script that needs to be posix compliand   2. it uses bash specific code.
[03:34] <tobias> hi, after updating to edgy i miss some systemsettings apps (display, drives&filesystems). anyone knows something about this?
[03:34] <nathan> tobias: those are under advanced
[03:34] <Jucato> tobias: try to check if kde-guidance is installed. and Disks & Filesystems is in the Advanced tab
[03:34] <Jucato> Monitor and Display is in General
[03:35] <tobias> nathan: i know that, the icons are there but they are not running.
[03:35] <nathan> ah
[03:35] <Jucato> tobias: try installing/reinstalling kde-guidance
[03:37] <intelikey> LALLY you must be really bored.........   no life outside the box ?
[03:37] <LALLY> no-.-
[03:37] <LALLY> ;-(
[03:38] <_tobias> reinstalling did it. thx alot.
[03:38] <LALLY> intelikey:where are you from???
[03:39] <intelikey> LALLY i'm an alian.
[03:39] <LALLY> wooooooow
[03:39] <LALLY> me to
[03:39] <LALLY> ^^
[03:39] <LALLY> i'm from mars
[03:39] <keb_> hey, can someone help me what should i do to run my winetools?
[03:39] <keb_> usr/local/bin/winetools: line 3300: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: Nincs ilyen fjl vagy knyvtr
[03:39] <intelikey> Jucato hehhe
[03:39] <keb_> Calls to wine are executed as  "wine".
[03:39] <keb_> Config is /home/keb/.wine/winetools.log.
[03:39] <keb_> /usr/local/bin/winetools: line 3211: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: Nincs ilyen fjl vagy knyvtr
[03:39] <keb_> /usr/local/bin/winetools: line 3242: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: Nincs ilyen fjl vagy knyvtr
[03:39] <keb_> /usr/local/bin/winetools: line 3026: /usr/local/winetools/Xdialog: Nincs ilyen fjl vagy knyvtr
[03:39] <keb_> it gives this error msg
[03:39] <Jucato> !paste | keb_
[03:39] <ubotu> keb_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:40] <LALLY> intelikey:...i'm not joking...where are you from?
[03:40] <keb_> at the end "Nincs ilyen fajl vagy konyvtar"= no such file or directory
[03:40] <intelikey> i am joking  :)
[03:41] <LALLY> i know
[03:41] <LALLY> -.-
[03:42] <LALLY> intelikey: soooooo???where are you from???
[03:42] <intelikey> oh sorry there was no inflection in that...    i am joking ?   :)
[03:42] <LALLY> -.--.-
[03:42] <LALLY> well
[03:42] <LALLY> ...
[03:43] <LALLY> i'm italian!!!
[03:44] <intelikey> !?.,:;'`"     :)
[03:44] <Tm_T> Hi kids.
[03:45] <Jucato> I should have locked that frontdoor... :)
[03:45] <LALLY> hi
[03:45] <Jucato> hi Tm_T sir :P
[03:45] <LALLY> bye
[03:45] <LALLY> bye
[03:45] <icheyne> has anyone used Duplicity for backups?
[03:46] <intelikey> LALLY most people don't like to give out personal information.   asl? asl? asl?   is a yahoo thing frowned upon in irc in general.   the information that they(we) want you do see is easy enough to obtain.   /whois blah
[03:47] <Jucato> intelikey: it's also an IRC (DALnet, Undernet, etc) thing...
[03:47] <BluesKaj> !hu
[03:47] <ubotu> Ha magyarul beszelsz kerlek probald a #ubuntu-hu
[03:47] <Jucato> :)
[03:47] <LALLY> ok
[03:47] <LALLY> bye
[03:47] <LALLY> then
[03:47] <Jucato> and in some cases, they even go "nasl"...
[03:47] <Jucato> bye
[03:47] <keb_> ha segitene valaki probalnam
[03:48] <BluesKaj> intelikey, only kids ask for asl ..
[03:48] <intelikey> Jucato hmmm yeah prolly so.  on M$ oreinted channels  here maybe too
[03:48] <keb_> i would like to try ubuntu-hu but they're still
[03:48] <keb_> no one is in the omde to help
[03:48] <keb_> *mode
[03:49] <Jucato> if winetools is an official Wine project, you could also try in #wine
[03:49] <BluesKaj> ok, try to stick to english so someone can help you here , keb
[03:49] <intelikey> or #winehq  maybe...
[03:49] <Jucato> er yeah..
[03:49] <Jucato> lol sorry for the misdirection
[03:49] <keb_> ok, thx
[03:49] <keb_> nvm :)
[03:50] <keb_> the hungarian guys seems to be not very helpful
[03:50] <keb_> they're really annoying...
[03:50] <intelikey> almost like americians....  :)
[03:50] <keb_> nah, i got most time help from this channel
[03:50] <keb_> or from the german one
[03:51] <keb_> tough i never learned english and its hard for me to explain some things
[03:52] <intelikey> yes bable was certianly affective....
[03:52] <keb_> :D
[03:52] <keb_> true
[03:53] <h3sp4wn> I know at least one hungarian guy who knows loads of stuff and helps me with some difficult problems
[03:54] <ehird> running banshee loads and then just exits
[03:54] <ehird> ideas?
[03:54] <keb_> al they do is making fun of me..
[03:54] <keb_> *all
[03:54] <BluesKaj> looks like samba is a bit beyond my understanding ...tried komba ...it sees my network but there are no permissions
[03:54] <intelikey> anyone know a way to pass a variable from a script to the shell that called it ?
[03:56] <intelikey> BluesKaj something about adding self to workgroup.... i have no idea.  i'm network illiterate.   and maybe english illiterate also....
[03:56] <polter> how do I format a SD-Card with the FAT-filesystem?
[03:56] <intelikey> mkfs.vfat /dev/<blah>
[03:57] <intelikey> as root that ^ of course.
[03:57] <BluesKaj> well, I'm not terribly upset about it , intelikey ...someday I'll take the time
[03:57] <polter> intelikey: it says it contains a mounted filesystem.. how do I unmount?
[03:58] <intelikey> umount
[03:58] <Shaddar> anyone here using konversation / xchat ?
[03:58] <intelikey> polter sudo umount /dev/<blah>
[03:58] <intelikey> polter ahhh  usb ?
[03:58] <polter> intelikey: its a mamory-card reader
[03:59] <intelikey> you may have to umount /proc/usbfs   something like that...
[03:59] <polter> intelikey: dunno its internal connection
[03:59] <intelikey>  mount    will tell you.
[03:59] <Shaddar> Jucato: are there any possibilities to let koversation perform some commands after connecting to a network ?
[03:59] <instructor> Yup
[03:59] <polter> intelikey: well It worked to unmount using "umount  /dev/sde1"... what now?
[03:59] <intelikey>  /proc/bus/usbfs   i think that was....
[04:00] <intelikey> sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sde1
[04:00] <intelikey> that doesn't confirm so don't typo
[04:01] <intelikey> and "no error message" means  no error...    ready to mount.
[04:01] <polter> it worked! thanks a lot!
[04:02] <polter> I THINK it worked, that is :P
[04:02] <intelikey> as my old grand-dad used to say.   'thanks a million, until you are better paid'
[04:02] <dude_> abattoir !
[04:02] <polter> intelikey: that's not a bad way of putting it! :)
[04:02] <Jucato> Shaddar: I'm not really sure
[04:02] <abattoir> hello dude_
[04:02] <dude_> jucato !
[04:03] <intelikey> polter you'll prolly have to remount it to use it.
[04:03] <abattoir> dude_: are you a bot?
[04:03] <abattoir> :P
[04:03] <Jucato> hi dude_
[04:03] <dude_> hehehe
[04:03] <dude_> what is this error everytime i run kiba-dock "eryl: Couldn't bind redirected window 0x3600006 to texture"
[04:03] <Jucato> abattoir: nah, he just has an auto-greet script :P
[04:03] <dude_> no auto greet script
[04:04] <Jucato> dude_: I was just kidding
[04:04] <dude_> :)
[04:04] <intelikey> jk
[04:04] <Shaddar> Jucato: what i want is, that koversation logs me in (for example performs "/msg nickserv identify <pw>" @ irc.freenode.net) automatically
[04:04] <Jucato> Shaddar: ah that one is possible :)
[04:05] <Shaddar> and especcially in another network, where the syntax is another (/msg chanserv auth <Nick> <pw>)
[04:05] <intelikey> Jucato you might know if konversation does or not.  but bx will automaticly look for a ~/.ircrc   and source it if it exists.
[04:05] <dude_> abattoir: what is this error everytime i run kiba-dock "eryl: Couldn't bind redirected window 0x3600006 to texture"
[04:05] <Jucato> Shaddar: File -> Server list -> Edit -> Identity -> Edit
[04:06] <abattoir> dude_: sorry run neither that nor beryl... if it's not causing any problems, i'm pretty sure you can ignore it
[04:06] <Jucato> Shaddar: put "NickServ" in the service, and your password
[04:06] <BluesKaj> Shaddar, you do the identity and pw  editing in the server list
[04:07] <Shaddar> Jucato: this auto-idnetify requies the syntax of freenode-IRC
[04:07] <Shaddar> Jucato: i mean "/msg nickserv identify pw"
[04:07] <intelikey>  /msg nickserv identify <pass>
[04:07] <Jucato> Shaddar: it works on Freenode since I'm using it
[04:07] <Shaddar> Jucato: what i need is a syntax "/msg chanserv AUTH <nick> <pass>"
[04:08] <Jucato> ah chanserv?
[04:08] <Shaddar> yes
[04:08] <Jucato> hm...
[04:08] <intelikey> "runtime configuration" files.....
[04:09] <intelikey> ~/.<blah>rc
[04:09] <BluesKaj>  /msg nickserv identify "password"
[04:09] <SHRIKEE> why does the option for the monitor powersave not work?
[04:09] <hemant> how do you make it so that konversation opens up when you click on a link on firefox or konqueror
[04:10] <intelikey> right click ?
[04:10] <abattoir> hemant: you mean irc:// or do you mean the opposite?
[04:10] <polter> where in KDE can I configure autostart of programs?
[04:10] <Jucato> polter: ~/.kde/Autostart
[04:10] <BluesKaj> hemant,, WHY? ...just load it into the panel and it's available at all times
[04:10] <polter> Jucato: thanks
[04:10] <Shaddar> BluesKaj the problem is, that i want to register automatically in another irc-network (ogamenet) and the syntax is another (look above)
[04:10] <intelikey> and kcontrol
[04:11] <hemant> i mean like when you click on a link on the web like packetnews.com
[04:11] <abattoir> hemant: you mean an irc channel on that site?
[04:12] <hemant> yes
[04:12] <BluesKaj> yes , we all encounter those identity probs, Shaddar, it's the way some irc servers protect themselves from evil scripts
[04:12] <Jucato> Shaddar: have you tried the "password" field in auto-join channels list?
[04:12] <BluesKaj> or one of the ways
[04:13] <hemant> like when you search for a file on a browser and some some sites will copy the link when you click on it so that when you open konversation you can just paste i
[04:13] <hemant> it*
[04:13] <Shaddar> nope ... the auth-command isn't just a password :(
[04:13] <|joe|> i think i'll have to give konversation a try as irc client
[04:13] <|joe|> when it seems to be so popular :)
[04:13] <Shaddar> mIRC for example has an option "autoperform" where you can put all commands in, you want to have performed automatically after connecting
[04:13] <Jucato> ah
[04:13] <BluesKaj> i like it better than xchat or kopete
[04:13] <Shaddar> something similar would be perfect :D
[04:14] <|joe|> well i like kvirc at most
[04:14] <Jucato> Shaddar: well, I'm not really sure.. but maybe it has. you can try asking in #konversation if someone is around
[04:14] <|joe|> imho the best kde-ish client
[04:14] <|joe|> irc client of course
[04:14] <Shaddar> Jucato: k, thx :)
[04:14] <BluesKaj> yeah  perform the id message /msg nickserv etc...
[04:14] <Jucato> |joe|: which is slowly dying... (I think...)
[04:14] <intelikey> well i'll just stick with bx.   my .ircrc file can auto connect to what ever and log me in    all i do is add the string i want ran at start....   simple as     irc
[04:14] <|joe|> Jucato: may be true, but has all you need incl. scripting :)
[04:15] <abattoir> Shaddar: there is a 'Commands' field in the 'Edit Servers' window
[04:15] <Shaddar> BluesKaj nope ... /msg chanserv auth <nick> <pw> (other syntax than in freenode)
[04:15] <|joe|> Jucato: and i think regarding features its far ahead of any other program
[04:15] <BluesKaj> yes commands dbox in edit
[04:15] <Jucato> |joe|: konvi has scripting too :)
[04:15] <abattoir> Shaddar: File->Server List->Edit
[04:15] <|joe|> Jucato: oh, did not know sory :)
[04:15] <Jucato> :P
[04:15] <SHRIKEE> why does the option for the monitor powersave not work?
[04:15] <|joe|> Jucato: i tried it maybe year, half-year ago but was rather dissapointed at that time
[04:16] <Jucato> |joe|: like all (almost all) FOSS apps, it grows and matures over time
[04:16] <Jucato> :)
[04:16] <Shaddar> abattoir: tried this ^^ doesn't work :(
[04:16] <|joe|> Jucato: ok installing
[04:17] <abattoir> Shaddar: hmm, works for me :( , ok try asking at #konversation
[04:17] <|joe|> Jucato: i hope to be pleasantly suprised :)
[04:17] <Jucato> |joe|: well, I can't guarantee that :)
[04:17] <|joe|> Jucato: how come :)
[04:17] <Jucato> all I can guarantee is that Konvi is getting better and better
[04:17] <BluesKaj> Shaddar, it's not global, you have to type the command in for each server
[04:17] <Jucato> |joe|: YMMV
[04:17] <Shaddar> abattoir: after connecting i'm and not logged in user :( don't know why
[04:18] <SHRIKEE> i identified myu nick with the password field in the autologin dialog
[04:18] <SHRIKEE> works on multiple servers
[04:18] <Shaddar> BluesKaj yes, have typed it in the server it affects (and it doesn't work)
[04:18] <abattoir> Shaddar: you mean you are not being identified upon loggin in?
[04:19] <abattoir> *logging in
[04:19] <Shaddar> yes
[04:19] <SHRIKEE> maybe you put in the wrong service name
[04:19] <SHRIKEE> :P
[04:19] <SHRIKEE> which should be nickserv
[04:19] <Jucato> NickServ, not nickserv
[04:19] <SHRIKEE> i use nickserv
[04:19] <ehird> hah, yay, removing kubuntu-desktop just cause i wanna get rid of amarok
[04:19] <SHRIKEE> works
[04:19] <Jucato> hm...or maybe both works :P
[04:19] <abattoir> Jucato: nickserv works fine as well
[04:19] <robin_> is there a way to make grub look better?
[04:19] <Shaddar> i should get for example automatically op-rights in one channel ... but only if i'm logged in -> no op -> logging in hasn't worked :(
[04:19] <abattoir> Jucato: you have that intro to IRC classroom wiki link?
[04:20] <Jucato> abattoir: um.... :P
[04:20] <SHRIKEE> poor you
[04:20] <SHRIKEE> :P
[04:20] <abattoir> Jucato: we could show Shaddar that :P
[04:20] <Jucato> abattoir: but his/her question is probably client specific...
[04:20] <Shaddar> SHRIKEE: i'm not talking about NICKSERV ... other network, other bots
[04:20] <Shaddar> his ^^
[04:21] <Shaddar> Jucato: it's irc-network specific
[04:21] <Jucato> abattoir: this one? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts
[04:21] <intelikey> Shaddar nickserv and chanserv are seperate services.   you have to identify with nickserv before chanserv will listen to you then you have to let chanserv that you are "on-board" so it will op you.
[04:21] <Jucato> abattoir: I might be migrating those to blogger...
[04:22] <intelikey> basicly you have to hit them both.
[04:22] <LALLY> SORRRYYYYYYY?????????????
[04:23] <gflash> hi
[04:23] <intelikey>  line one. /msg nickserv identify blah      line two.  /msg chanserv identify channel blah
[04:23] <LALLY> IS THERE ANYONE THAT HAS GOT aAMSN????
[04:23] <abattoir> Jucato: hmm, the pictures have gone
[04:23] <fdoving> LALLY: please drop the caps.
[04:23] <Jucato> !caps | LALLY
[04:23] <ubotu> LALLY: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[04:23] <LALLY> PLEAAAASSSOOEEEEEEEEE
[04:23] <abattoir> LALLY: please don't shout
[04:23] <gflash> how can i set the bitrate in KAudioCreator?
[04:23] <LALLY> OOK
[04:23] <Jucato> abattoir: what pictures?
[04:23] <Dr_willis> LALLY,  if they did - i imagine they wouldent tell you :)
[04:23] <BluesKaj> yes LALLY , i do what's the prob?
[04:23] <gflash> i cannot find an option for that
[04:24] <LALLY> HOW CAL I INSTALLL IT???
[04:24] <abattoir> Jucato: the screenshots which nixternal used in the wiki...
[04:24] <LALLY> can*
[04:24] <Jucato> abattoir: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom/Intro2IRC
[04:24] <Dr_willis> lally use the package managers, search, click install.
[04:24] <Schalken> how can i do the equivelant of "iprelease" and "iprenew" in linux?
[04:24] <Dr_willis> !info amsn
[04:24] <abattoir> !amsn
[04:24] <Jucato> abattoir: I never embedded them in my page
[04:24] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[04:24] <LALLY> wherw are twhy??
[04:24] <BluesKaj> !aMSN
[04:24] <LALLY> they?
[04:25] <Shaddar> intelikey: in ogamenet i haven't registred with nickserv ;) http://www.onlinegamesnet.net/authRegHelp.php?language=en (at the bottom there's an explanation of the log-in-command)
[04:25] <LALLY> dr willis where are the package managers?
[04:25] <BluesKaj> LALLY, have you checked adept sources?
[04:25] <Schalken> how can i renew my IP in linux???
[04:25] <Dr_willis> lally now is the time to learn how to use the package manager, and read the kubuntu/ubuntu guides I think.    fire up adept, click the  right options and isntall.
[04:26] <Dr_willis> LALLY,  its right there in the menus...
[04:26] <LALLY> sorry but i'm itlaian could you speack  more simle please???
[04:26] <BluesKaj> !it
[04:26] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:26] <|joe|> Jucato: looks really neat; if kvirc dies i'll switch to konv :)
[04:26] <Dr_willis> LALLY,  look in the menus.
[04:26] <LALLY> yes
[04:26] <intelikey> Shaddar networks are different...   kinda like people.  this network would work the example given.
[04:26] <Dr_willis> !it
[04:27] <Jucato> |joe|: I thought kvirc was already dead.hehehe! :)
[04:27] <Jucato> |joe|: I think most distros ship with Konvi by default now instead of kvirc
[04:27] <intelikey> default   pfft.
[04:27] <Shaddar> intelikey i know that it works this way ... but the auto-identify of konversation doesn't work with it ... so i need a auto-perform-option for commands :)
[04:28] <|joe|> Jucato: well i don't miss anything in kvirc so from my point of view there is not that much to develop :)
[04:28] <LALLY> then??
[04:28] <Shaddar> intelikey: auto-perform-option within konversation
[04:28] <MRMorefield-ft> how to watch my other harddisk?
[04:28] <MRMorefield-ft> ntfs partition
[04:28] <LALLY> dr willis??
[04:28] <intelikey> Shaddar like i first mentioned   look into a runtime configuration file.
[04:29] <|joe|> Jucato: btw on 11/04 3.2.5 was released, it's probably not that dead
[04:29] <Jucato> ah
[04:29] <abattoir> Nov. 2004?
[04:29] <abattoir> or 04 Nov. 2006? :P
[04:29] <Shaddar> intelikey: therefor i'm to unexperienced ... i would crash my hole system (if it's not possible i'll crash it anyway *ggg*)
[04:30] <intelikey> Shaddar like click the [help]  button and look for mention of startup files  or konversationrc  or even ircrc
[04:30] <h3sp4wn> kvirc has some nice features (you can see multiple channels at once for example)
[04:31] <intelikey> i can do that with bx
[04:31] <|joe|> well the scripting with event system is quite strong as well
[04:31] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: get your network card sorted out?
[04:32] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: yes ... after reinstalling twice and speaking about 1,5h with an experienced linux-user i've get it working ^^
[04:32] <Dr_willis> LALLY,  explore and learn the program. its not that hard to use.
[04:32] <|joe|> abattoir: 4.11.2006
[04:33] <LALLY> dr_willis sorry....but...what should i do after that i've opened package menu??
[04:33] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: figure out what the core problem was?
[04:33] <|joe|> abattoir: the best date i saw till now was 06/07/04 .... and now you can wonder ;-)
[04:34] <abattoir> |joe|: heh :P
[04:34] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: Is that what apt sometimes asks ? (if you are doing something really dangerous)
[04:34] <|joe|> but isn't actually YYYY/MM/DD som iso standard?
[04:34] <intelikey> yep
[04:34] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: don't know why but my kubuntu doesn't accept the wep-key typed in the wlan-assistant (graphical menu) ... setting it by shell-command it worked -.-
[04:35] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: kwlanassisstant is currently kinda broken in Kubuntu
[04:35] <LALLY> intelikey i cant found aMSN it te window
[04:35] <hollywoodb> Shaddar: bug 64841
[04:35] <hollywoodb> ...
[04:35] <intelikey> |joe|  06/07/04  would not be  YYYY/MM/DD   MM/DD/YY
[04:35] <hollywoodb> !bug 64841
[04:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bug 64841 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:35] <hollywoodb> http://launchpad.net/bugs/64841
[04:35] <hollywoodb> screw you ubotu
[04:36] <Shaddar> hollywoodb: i've typed the same things as 1 week ago ... now it doesn't work, 1 week ago it worked *shrug*
[04:36] <keb_> does someone know how can i get a working port for my frostwire?
[04:36] <intelikey> |joe| or possably YY/MM/DD   but not likely.
[04:36] <|joe|> intelikey: i know, but there is YYYY/DD/MM as well
[04:36] <intelikey> yes there is
[04:36] <intelikey> but the number of letters is dirrectly reletated to the number of digits
[04:37] <|joe|> intelikey: :) ok i'm not that dumb :)
[04:37] <intelikey> i.e.   YYYY = 2006   YY = 06
[04:37] <intelikey> and if it's YY  then YY is last.
[04:37] <intelikey> unless someone hacks it.
[04:37] <|joe|> intelikey: those messages ie 06/07/04 and YYYY/MM/DD were kinda unrelated
[04:38] <intelikey> oh
[04:38] <intelikey> then be cohearent so we can tell what you are talking about !
[04:38] <intelikey> lol
[04:38] <Shaddar> |joe|: take a look at qry plz :)
[04:39] <|joe|> Shaddar: well i answered already :)
[04:39] <|joe|> intelikey: sorry for confusion :)
[04:39] <Shaddar> |joe|: hm oO i've not received your answer oo
[04:39] <intelikey> np   just a momentary diversion....
[04:44] <ToyMan> anyone here use karm?
[04:45] <intelikey> colour me stupid,  but is it possable to burn iso9660 on dvd-r media ?
[04:45] <ToyMan> its refusing to save any of my projects in karm.ics
[04:46] <|joe|> intelikey: i think it should be, but for dvd it's usual to burn udf isn't it
[04:46] <howess02> hello, can anyone tell me how to make konquer not hide everything but my home dir and the media dir when browsing / on 6.10 , ta in advanced
[04:46] <intelikey> |joe| yeah but i don't have a dvd burner.
[04:49] <ToyMan> howess02: the other dir. show in the side panel that comes up when you press F9, i believe
[04:49] <ToyMan> for some reason the media list is more complete there
[04:50] <ToyMan> not sure what that change is about in 6.10, I don't really understand how it's more user-friendly
[04:50] <Jucato> !hidden-root | ToyMan
[04:50] <ubotu> ToyMan: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[04:50] <howess02> ta
[04:51] <intelikey> Jucato what did they do change the perms on /* ???
[04:52] <ToyMan> ah Jucato, thank you..
[04:52] <Jucato> intelikey: no
[04:52] <intelikey> then ls /   should still look normal
[04:52] <ToyMan> i suppose from a user-perspective, it's better that way
[04:53] <Jucato> intelikey: no. but ls -al  / should
[04:53] <ToyMan> damn, why won't karm save my tasks anymore??
[04:53] <Jucato> just read the link...
[04:53] <howess02> sorry I have done that maybe I was unclear I have the side bar but when I click on the red folder (root or /) it stil lonly shows me /home and /media
[04:53] <howess02> is this as new feature as I did not use to have this in 3.5 on suse or gentoo
[04:53] <Jucato> !hidden-root | howess02
[04:53] <ubotu> howess02: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[04:53] <howess02> thank you
[04:54] <intelikey> i don't like to have to use elinks...... and links don't do https ............    ;/
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[04:54] <h3sp4wn> links2
[04:54] <intelikey> h3sp4wn yes links2 ^
[04:55] <h3sp4wn> links2 does https for me here - just tested it
[04:55] <h3sp4wn> !info links2 dapper
[04:55] <ubotu> links2: Web browser running in both graphics and text mode. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1pre20-2 (dapper), package size 1969 kB, installed size 3184 kB
[04:56] <intelikey> h3sp4wn doesn't here.   dapper also.
[04:56] <h3sp4wn> I am not using it on dapper - try a simple sid backport (its not a complicated package)
[04:57] <intelikey> no thinks.   i see no reason to start breaking packages today.  that's a monday and tuesday project.
[04:57] <intelikey> and wedensday
[04:58] <intelikey> well only days that end with ay
[04:58] <|joe|> intelikey: today
[04:58] <|joe|> ;-)
[04:58] <intelikey> friday
[04:58] <intelikey> saturday
[04:58] <intelikey> ....
[04:58] <h3sp4wn> Its working pretty well for me (alot more stable than it was - I think it got a new maintainer recently)
[04:59] <h3sp4wn> Only real issue I have with it is that if you use directfb it uses the first line it finds in /etc/fb.modes (so I had to hack that a bit)
[05:00] <intelikey> so bash reads the /.hidden also ???
[05:01] <intelikey> if so that stinks worse than i thought...
[05:01] <Jucato> intelikey: yes. it doesn't affect paths
[05:01] <Jucato>  /.hidden only affects displays
[05:02] <delight> intelikey simply mv .hidden .hiddenbackup ; touch .hidden  and all is like it used to be
[05:02] <delight> so no biggi to begin with
[05:02] <Jucato> not the proper way to do it, but ti works
[05:02] <h3sp4wn> That is a microsoft like thing to do hide files from the user
[05:02] <intelikey> i know it doesn't affect path/s
[05:02] <Jucato> wow another $1 for me!
[05:03] <delight> ;) true ... this way u make sure kubuntu - settings is not reenabling the feauture on a update
[05:03] <davidenik> hi guys
[05:03] <intelikey> delight if i had edgy i'd fix bash whether it deleted /.hidden or not.
[05:03] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: have you seen .kde ?
[05:03] <h3sp4wn> For people who expect a computer to have more common sense than they do
[05:03] <MRMorefield-ft> how do you mount a disk?
[05:03] <MRMorefield-ft> mnt?
[05:03] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: What is in the folder ? I have changed things in it manually before
[05:03] <delight> mount
[05:03] <delight> not mnt
[05:03] <MRMorefield-ft> ok
[05:04] <MRMorefield-ft> and how do i find al the disk on my computer?
[05:04] <delight> fdisk -l
[05:04] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: it's a hidden folder where KDE keeps user settings. omg! it's hidden. it's a microsoft thing! oh, GNOME has some too.
[05:04] <MRMorefield-ft> ok
[05:04] <delight> lol
[05:04] <Jucato> darn Linux people hiding .files in /home...
[05:04] <MRMorefield-ft> yes
[05:04] <xsacha> LOL
[05:04] <MRMorefield-ft> there are manny hidden folders
[05:05] <intelikey> h3sp4wn hehhe  "For people who expect a computer to have more common sense than they do"  <---  my fav. was "for people with more dollars than sense"
[05:05] <xsacha> damn kubuntu.. hiding root folders in konqueror
[05:05] <Jucato> omg! there are? Linux must be turning microsoft!
[05:05] <delight> xsacha said it b4 simple mv .hidden .hiddenbackup ; touch .hidden
[05:06] <Jucato> !hidden | delight
[05:06] <ubotu> delight: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[05:06] <delight> jucato i know that side
[05:06] <Jucato> that works, too, thouhg
[05:06] <Jucato> err though*
[05:06] <ShamanPL> witojcie
[05:06] <delight> I like the hidden folders but ;) i don't like that konquerors tree view won't browse on hidden folders
[05:06] <delight> so that was no good for me
[05:06] <intelikey> ! mv .hidden .hiddenbackup      rm /.hidden
[05:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mv .hidden .hiddenbackup      rm /.hidden - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:06] <Jucato> oh, OS X also does this hidden-root thing... omg it's turning microsoft too!
[05:06] <intelikey> why have a useless symlink there....
[05:07] <Jucato> delight: that's a bug, sasdly
[05:07] <Jucato> intelikey: upgrading kubuntu-default-settings will reinstall /.hidden if you delete it
[05:07] <delight> Jucato its valid since quite a view versions in kde
[05:07] <delight> did not know that is a bug
[05:07] <BluesKaj> that factoids page is about as useful as tits on bull
[05:07] <delight> thought its what it should be
[05:07] <delight> besides that the hidden-folder idea is great
[05:08] <intelikey> not if you : > /.hidden  it wont.   and also there are other ways of keeping it from doing that.
[05:08] <delight> BluesKaj maybe the bull would be happy about some tits :-D
[05:08] <hollywoodb> that's actually kind of neat... as long as the don't do it with terminal emulator & console ;)
[05:08] <BluesKaj> oops, forgot this is family chat ...my apologies!
[05:08] <Jucato> intelikey: basically either break the link or empty the file, but not delete it
[05:08] <BluesKaj> yeah a gay bull ,. maybe :)
[05:09] <delight> gay bull liking tits ?
[05:09] <Jucato> !language
[05:09] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[05:09] <delight> gay bull needs more butts ... lol
[05:09] <delight> :-D
[05:09] <delight> anyways way to offtopic
[05:09] <BluesKaj> some like to play the feminine role
[05:09] <delight> misguided ones
[05:10] <intelikey> Jucato i don't think you saw what i said.   in answer to mv /.hidden /.hiddenbackup ;touch /.hidden     i said not mv but rm   no reason to keep a useless symlink lying around in /
[05:10] <delight> intelikey i don't like deleting
[05:10] <delight> ;)
[05:10] <delight> unless its some core dump file
[05:11] <Jucato> intelikey: like I said, if you rm /.hidden, it will be reinstalled if kubuntu-default-settings if updated
[05:11] <intelikey> Jucato no it wont.
[05:11] <intelikey> Jucato no it wont.
[05:11] <intelikey> Jucato no it wont.
[05:11] <delight> jucato thats why i mentioned the touch .hidden
[05:11] <intelikey> that's what the touch /.hidden   prevents.
[05:11] <Jucato> intelikey: "Deleting the /.hidden link is not a permanent solution, as it will be restored during the next update of the kubuntu-desktop-setting package."
[05:11] <h3sp4wn> Well that package has a bug then
[05:11] <delight> true
[05:11] <BluesKaj> Is there a way for a windows pc to "see" a linux OS and files on a network ?
[05:12] <h3sp4wn> stuff like that should not be done if you don't use confmiss
[05:12] <Jucato> ok, you didn't mention that you'd still touch it
[05:12] <fdoving> BluesKaj: samba.
[05:12] <delight> so anyone of u got crashing konqueror on first right click on folders / files ?
[05:12] <keb_> tough Samba is not easy to configure..
[05:12] <fdoving> h3sp4wn: the idea is that you should change everything inside /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/
[05:12] <delight> somtimes its that sometimes I get a error messsage about Dcopserver ... and others its about an entry in ???spanish??? about kdesvn
[05:13] <fdoving> h3sp4wn: messing with the symlink just makes a big mess.
[05:13] <BluesKaj> samba is beyond my ability to config atm ...I took a look at the config file and it's mostly gobbledygook to me :(
[05:13] <icheyne> how do I get documentation for my kde apps? when I click Help, the documentation usually isn't there.
[05:13] <fdoving> h3sp4wn: in /etc/kubuntu-default-settings, 'mv hidden-root hidden-root.bak;touch hidden-root'
[05:13] <fdoving> that's a proper solution.
[05:14] <h3sp4wn> According to man dpkg - it should not be changed if a file is deleted
[05:14] <fdoving> it wont, it's not a file, it's a symlink.
[05:14] <h3sp4wn> Symlinks also
[05:14] <intelikey> Jucato it is true that i (purposely) omited reposting the second command the first time.  but i did mention it when you misread me.  remember the   : > /.hidden    <<--- thats better than touch  imo  for that usage.      and the reason i didn't address it.  i though all would see that i was only pointing out that a "useless symlink in /"  was imo not desireable.        can we move on now ?
[05:14] <h3sp4wn> there is no way it should be put back unless explicitly requested
[05:14] <ehird> why isn't svn in the repos
[05:15] <h3sp4wn> ehird: subversion
[05:15] <h3sp4wn> ehird: (is the name of the package)
[05:15] <delight> its in there ii  subversion                                 1.3.2-3ubuntu2                       advanced version control system (aka. svn)
[05:15] <ehird> is that the client
[05:15] <h3sp4wn> yep
[05:15] <khirr> !webcam
[05:15] <ehird> thanks :)
[05:15] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[05:17] <fdoving> h3sp4wn: that is not true for most packages. /.hidden is not threated as a config file. /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/hidden-root is.
[05:17] <intelikey> fdoving do you happen to know what was done to bash to get it to use the /.hidden ?    /etc/bash.bashrc  or something ?
[05:17] <fdoving> bbl eat.
[05:17] <guglielf> hi, anybody knows if nubuntu has a live cd as (k)ubuntu?
[05:17] <fdoving> intelikey: bash doesn't honour .hidden on my system.
[05:17] <BluesKaj> !nubuntu
[05:17] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nubuntu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:18] <intelikey> fdoving ok i was told that it did.....
[05:18] <guglielf> nubuntu is a security distro based on ubuntu
[05:18] <BluesKaj> !info nubuntu
[05:18] <ubotu> Package nubuntu does not exist in any distro I know
[05:18] <guglielf> mmm not a package afaik
[05:19] <guglielf> http://www.nubuntu.org/about.php
[05:19] <BluesKaj> never heard of it guglielf
[05:19] <guglielf> ok, thanx BluesKaj
[05:19] <intelikey> "nubuntu is a security distro based on ubuntu" <--- why would there be a package of a distro blueskaj ?
[05:21] <khirr> i cant run adept to can install, that show me"other procces runing" how can i kill that process?
[05:21] <BluesKaj> irc.kaffeinenet.com #nubuntu
[05:21] <h3sp4wn> May be more useful as a live cd - but to make it as secure as for example openbsd - it would be loads of work
[05:21] <guglielf> yaeh i saw the channel, anyone there though
[05:21] <BluesKaj> now i've heard of it :)
[05:21] <khirr> ?
[05:21] <guglielf> heheh
[05:22] <h3sp4wn> grml is a pretty good security based live cd
[05:24] <intelikey> khirr for Q in dpkg apt-get adept ;do sudo killall $Q ;done
[05:24] <BluesKaj> yeah, guglielf i see what you mean ...nobody there
[05:26] <guglielf> btw, what's factoids?
[05:26] <khirr> what should i write exactly?
[05:26] <intelikey> the stuff that ubotu pukes out.
[05:26] <khirr> i'm noobie T_T
[05:26] <intelikey> !ubotu
[05:26] <intelikey> hmmm net split.
[05:27] <MenZa> ...
[05:28] <brosioz> how could i allow my user to write into /var/www ??
[05:28] <intelikey> chown or chmod
[05:28] <intelikey> add user to group
[05:28] <intelikey> mmmmm maybe other ways.
[05:29] <brosioz> intelikey: to group www
[05:29] <brosioz> i have alredy try
[05:29] <h3sp4wn> I would make a group that needs to write there
[05:29] <h3sp4wn> 470 permissions
[05:29] <Shaddar> hm, requires freenode any options to let me connect to ? with mirc in windows on my desktop-pc no prob, with konv on my laptop the same nick is invalid (according to server-window
[05:29] <intelikey> brosioz ls -ld /var/www   see the owner and group and perms there.
[05:30] <brosioz> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2006-11-08 23:11 /var/www
[05:31] <intelikey> well we're back again...
[05:31] <Jucato> ah there
[05:31] <intelikey> :)
[05:31] <Firetech> Massjoin!
[05:31] <instructor> Right
[05:32] <instructor> Wot
[05:32] <instructor> D
[05:32] <Jucato> net blast, technically
[05:32] <hollywoodb> I wanna ride it again!
[05:32] <instructor> Hell?
[05:32] <ehird> NET SPLIT!!!!
[05:32] <ehird> :D :D :D :D :D
[05:32] <Jucato> net split/net blast
[05:32] <guglielf> yeah, what a quantum leap
[05:32] <ehird> REVERSE!
[05:32] <intelikey> yeah check the server messages they warned about ti.
[05:32] <ehird> NET!
[05:32] <ehird> SPLIT!
[05:32] <intelikey> it
[05:32] <ehird> :D:D:D:D:D:D
[05:32] <ehird> wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[05:33] <intelikey> hollywood    hehhe
[05:33] <intelikey> one more again !    one more again !
[05:33] <Jucato> lol
[05:33] <h3sp4wn> People don't ignore join parts quits ?
[05:34] <hollywoodb> h3sp4wn: not me
[05:34] <Jucato> not me
[05:34] <intelikey> h3sp4wn i don't .....   i blabber so much; i hate to set and talk to a dust trail for thirty minutes and wonder why they stopped answering....  :)
[05:34] <Firetech> h3sp4wn: how else would you know when the person you are talking to disappears and doesn't read your message?
[05:34] <guglielf> intelikey, you said '!ubotu'... is that an irc cmd?
[05:34] <khirr> i cant use adept
[05:34] <khirr> (:(
[05:35] <intelikey> !ubotu
[05:35] <intelikey> still no bot.
[05:35] <intelikey> guglielf yes
[05:35] <guglielf> tnx
[05:35] <hollywoodb> !enter
[05:35] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[05:35] <h3sp4wn> Firetech: Someone else probably would tell you (I think talking to youself occasionally is worse the vast decrease in spam to the screen)
[05:35] <icheyne> !netsplit
[05:35] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[05:35] <intelikey> oh maybe i lost my ident.
[05:35] <guglielf> !ubotu
[05:35] <h3sp4wn> Firetech: plus if they leave the tab completion stops
[05:35] <guglielf> ohoh
[05:36] <Firetech> h3sp4wn: I usually type long messagen, and it happens quite often that the person disappears while I'm typing...
[05:36] <intelikey> !bot
[05:36] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl  -  Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:36] <intelikey> that's better.
[05:36] <h3sp4wn> !sbuild
[05:36] <ubotu> sbuild: Tool for building Debian binary packages from Debian sources. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.50 (edgy), package size 78 kB, installed size 368 kB
[05:37] <intelikey> h3sp4wn tab completion is ok but some clients can hide from it....  it's not as affective as seeing the part message.
[05:37] <Firetech> h3sp4wn: my client also has a split view mode that shows status messages in one box and text messages in another, but I don't use it.
[05:38] <h3sp4wn> I don't use the status window at al
[05:38] <Firetech> h3sp4wn: status = join, part, quit, and I mean in the same window, just split horizontally
[05:38] <intelikey> however dual head systems do have an advantage there.....
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> Firetech: status as in the irssi status window
[05:39] <khirr> !systemguard
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about systemguard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <khirr> !system guard
[05:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about system guard - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:39] <intelikey> !ksysguard
[05:39] <ubotu> ksysguard: system guard for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 485 kB, installed size 1564 kB
[05:40] <h3sp4wn> Firetech: If I could get it so that only depart messages from people I had been talking to were displayed - I would use that
[05:41] <intelikey> hehhe nice part "-:- SignOff CVirus: #kubuntu ("I am Somebody Who is No Business of Yours !")"
[05:41] <Firetech> yay... kio_http is dead while I'm upgrading to edgy... can't surf with konqueror
[05:41] <guglielf> hey this bot entity is quite amazing
[05:41] <intelikey> anyone else getting ver'd ?
[05:42] <Jack1_> hi guys
[05:42] <intelikey> >>> freenode-connect [freenode@freenode/bot/connect]  requested VERSION
[05:42] <guglielf> hi jack1_
[05:42] <Jucato> intelikey: yep
[05:42] <Firetech> intelikey: yup
[05:43] <intelikey> i guess services were as upset by the ride as some people...
[05:43] <Jucato> I'm presuming all of us get ctcp'ed... I'd be insulted if intelikey was the only one who did :P
[05:43] <intelikey> Jucato i was thinking maybe only one server load.....  :)
[05:44] <Jack1_> i got a prob I tried to dist upgrad to edgy eft and all went fine, thing was, laptop switched itself off, tried again, now there is no space left on /dev/sda5 (100% use) and i cannot longin any more even in failsafe, tried to delete via console login but i dont really know what to do
[05:44] <Jack1_> short: login is not possible as /dev/sda5 is 100% full
[05:44] <Jack1_> someone help?
[05:45] <intelikey> Jack1_ in the console do a apt-get clean
[05:45] <intelikey> err sudo apt-get clean
[05:45] <Jack1_> intelikey: i did
[05:45] <Jack1_> intelikey: didnt help
[05:46] <intelikey> what size partition/file system we talking about sda5 ?
[05:46] <intelikey> also where is sda5 mounted ?
[05:46] <intelikey> mount will answer the later and df -h the former
[05:47] <Jack1_> hmm intelikey A COUPLE OF GBdont know for sure, its mounted on /tmp i think
[05:48] <brad_> Hi  all.  for some unknown reason, my kopete and gaim disconnect from msn and google talk without warning.  All my contacts look like they're online, and the icon shows me as being online, but i am not.  any ideas?
[05:49] <intelikey> Jack1_ if it's /tmp do a umount /tmp and format it and remount.     as root.    umount /tmp && mkfs.ext3 /dev/sda5 && mount /tmp             tell me if any of that errors out.
[05:49] <khirr> how can i desactivate the option sesion restaure
[05:50] <intelikey> khirr run kcontrol and ask Jucato    :)
[05:50] <Jucato> O_O
[05:50] <intelikey> lol
[05:50] <Jucato> khirr: Dapper or Edgy?
[05:50] <intelikey> you that kde guy
[05:50] <Jack1_> i'll check it but thereforesry
[05:50] <khirr> dapper
[05:51] <Jucato> khirr: hm.. I'm not sure where it is in Dapper. but in System Settings look for Session Manager
[05:51] <khirr> i'll try
[05:51] <khirr> i think,m i found
[05:51] <khirr> i'll try restart
[05:52] <major_stitch> I'm sorry to bother with a question but I'm using Kubuntu 6.06 and would like to try Ubuntu 6.06, how can I add my Ubuntu CD as a repository so I can install ubuntu-desktop package?
[05:52] <guglielf> kcontrol >> kde components  >> session manager
[05:52] <intelikey> major_stitch sudo apt-cdrom add
[05:53] <Jucato> presuming that he has the Alternate Install CD
[05:53] <major_stitch> I have the live install
[05:53] <Jucato> Desktop CD? that won't work
[05:54] <major_stitch> doesn't it also have the ubuntu-desktop package?
[05:54] <Jucato> no
[05:54] <major_stitch> that's the only thing I actually need
[05:54] <major_stitch> so I'll just have to download?
[05:54] <intelikey> major_stitch dialup ?
[05:54] <h3sp4wn> You can mount the squashfs partition if you want (but getting it clean would be a pain)
[05:54] <Jucato> major_stitch: ubuntu-desktop will also download and install *everything* that is needed to run Ubuntu/GNOME
[05:55] <intelikey> slow slow   or limited  connection ?
[05:55] <major_stitch> broadband, but I would like it to be faster...
[05:55] <major_stitch> it isn't a real problem to download
[05:55] <h3sp4wn> I think ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop etc include far too many things
[05:55] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: there are no .deb packages on the Desktop CD, so no way you could get ubuntu-desktop
[05:55] <major_stitch> but i figured if i have the cd than why download?
[05:55] <major_stitch> thanks
[05:55] <zeck> por favor. qual o canal de ajuda em portugues?
[05:55] <Jucato> !pt | zeck
[05:55] <ubotu> zeck: Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[05:55] <zeck> obrigado!
[05:56] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: You could look in /var/lib/dpkg/ and put the stuff into your running system
[05:56] <intelikey> then just do a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop    or   sudo apt-get install gnome
[05:56] <zeck> ubuntu-br
[05:56] <major_stitch> i will
[05:56] <major_stitch> thanks anyway
[05:57] <major_stitch> the best thing about X/K/Ubuntu is the support, you people really are great...any problem is solved much quicker than with any other distro!
[05:57] <polter> hey everyone! how do I set firefox as preferred webbrowser?
[05:57] <intelikey> note that both are meta packages (they just have dependancies nothing more)  and will install somewhat different packages
[05:58] <major_stitch> polter: are you using Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[05:58] <polter> Kubuntu
[05:58] <Jucato> polter: System Settings -> Default Applications (in Edgy)
[05:58] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: All expresso does is copy the contents of the squashfs (its not a very intelligent installer) so it is by no means impossible
[05:58] <khirr> follow without can u adept...
[05:59] <intelikey> back adder while maybe.
[05:59] <major_stitch> System Settings -> KDE Components -> Default Applications in Dapper
[05:59] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: for a fresh install. but he wants to install ubuntu-desktop on an already existing Kubuntu installation
[05:59] <intelikey> oh wait.  maybe i better idle a bit.  that guy with the full disk may need more info.
[05:59] <otaku-san> major_stitch: I was just about to post that!  Talk about overkill eh? ;)
[05:59] <major_stitch> :)
[05:59] <Jucato> hehe
[06:00] <Jucato> major_stitch: thanks for posting it. I forgot their places on Dapper :)
[06:00] <major_stitch> np...
[06:00] <otaku-san> Jucato: Hey how are you?
[06:00] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: So ? makes no difference - just work out what it is going to install - copy the relevant files over and the relevant parts of /var/lib/dpkg/info
[06:01] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: try telling him that then.
[06:01] <major_stitch> h3sp4wn: I would want it as simple as possible...download is mroe simple than lurking through the cd
[06:03] <major_stitch> :D
[06:03] <major_stitch> I'm still mostly a win user
[06:03] <major_stitch> i've been using linux for a while but can't really switch...
[06:03] <Jucato> interesting is interesting only if it works...
[06:03] <otaku-san> h3sp4wn: whats causing all the commotion?
[06:03] <keb_> on my windows there is only a directx and a game
[06:04] <major_stitch> Jucato: thanks :)
[06:04] <otaku-san> major_stitch: what are you married to in windoze?
[06:04] <major_stitch> otaku-san: nope :D
[06:04] <h3sp4wn> otaku-san: nothing really - I should just dist-upgrade to feisty I think
[06:04] <major_stitch> feisty?
[06:04] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu+1 repos are now open
[06:04] <keb_> if i can get the game work with wine i'll have another partition to store my stuff xD
[06:05] <major_stitch> all: thnaks for all the info! gotta run!
[06:05] <otaku-san> h3sp4wn: and you would accomplish this how?
[06:05] <otaku-san> major_stitch: see ya
[06:05] <h3sp4wn> otaku-san: change all instances of edgy to feisty
[06:05] <Jack1_> hi intelikey
[06:05] <h3sp4wn> otaku-san: dist-upgrade
[06:06] <otaku-san> h3sp4wn: ummmmm ya...but edgy just came out...feisty isn't even able to be used yet...right?  or am I behind
[06:06] <Jack1_> it says 21 Gb /dev/sda5 on /  type is ext3  intelikey
[06:06] <intelikey> Jack1_ yes
[06:07] <intelikey> eeeek
[06:07] <h3sp4wn> otaku-san: I ran edgy pretty much from the beginning
[06:07] <howess02> hello I have an odd problem right now totem and kaffine wont play wmv files but mplayer will, yet kaffine points to lib/codecs where the wmv codec is can anyone advise me as I cant find anyhelp in google
[06:07] <intelikey> and you have 21g full ?
[06:07] <Jack1_> intelikey:  on /dev/sda1 is windows
[06:07] <h3sp4wn> otaku-san: I have a statically linked version of X 7.2 in /opt and e17 in /opt
[06:07] <Jack1_> intelikey:  i dont wanna loose
[06:08] <Jack1_> intelikey: apparently i dont get it too
[06:08] <Jack1_> intelikey:  i had several times to stop the upgrading maybe cos of that?
[06:08] <intelikey> Jack1_  du -Lchx --max-depth=1 /
[06:08] <xsacha> is 7.2 released or.. still in development?
[06:08] <h3sp4wn> Its a release candidate actually
[06:09] <Jack1_> intelikey:  shall i enter that in console? what does it do?
[06:09] <otaku-san> h3sp4wn: oh...crazy person....once I get this box into a more test situation I'll beta test like that...but right now I'm to dependent on a stable box to pull off that?
[06:09] <otaku-san> and why did I end that with a question mark....?
[06:10] <intelikey> Jack1_ yes enter that     and no no no...  you posted ^ "/dev/sda5 on /  type is ext3"  that means it's not windows it's ext3 and mounted as the root of the system.   so lets see where the space went.
[06:10] <intelikey> Jack1_ also it's likely that windows will be on /dev/sda1
[06:10] <howess02> any ideas I am using 6.10 ubuntu
[06:11] <Jack1_> no intelikey win is on dev/sda  /media or so..i wanted to say i dont wanna loose it, otherwise i'd do a fresh new install
[06:12] <Jack1_> intelikey: there is evrytime one space between right in the code?
[06:12] <intelikey> Jack1_ /dev/sda is the disk.   if you can get windows to live there you should have no trubble fixing your pinguin.    /dev/sda[1-16]  are parditions
[06:12] <intelikey>  du -Lchx --max-depth=1 /
[06:12] <intelikey> just like that ^
[06:13] <Jack1_> well i cannot do cut n paste i'm in win, so i need to write it down, thats why i ask
[06:13] <Jack1_> ok cu soon
[06:13] <intelikey> even add    | less     to the end,  if the output is messy.
[06:13] <instructor> !flash
[06:13] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:14] <instructor> !flash9
[06:14] <ubotu> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[06:14] <guglielf> !god
[06:14] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about god - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:15] <guglielf> lol
[06:16] <ubuntu> hello
[06:16] <lnxkde> hi
[06:16] <intelikey> lnxkde
[06:16] <lnxkde> I have a em64t pc
[06:16] <lnxkde> does edgy has a smp kernel for it?
[06:16] <intelikey> yep
[06:17] <lnxkde> intelikey: yes? not just a generic one?
[06:17] <lnxkde> Pentium D here
[06:17] <trappist> lnxkde: the generic kernel supports smp.  it's not a separate kernel anymore.
[06:18] <intelikey> lnxkde yes it's generic smp
[06:18] <lnxkde> intelikey: trappist should I use amd64 version?
[06:18] <instructor> !myself
[06:18] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about myself - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[06:18] <|lostbyte|> Does ipod mini support video ?
[06:18] <instructor> |lostbyte|: Only mini videos
[06:19] <lnxkde> I need java and flash...
[06:19] <instructor> intelikey: The Generic is for ump and SMP ?
[06:19] <trappist> lnxkde: if you haave an amd64 chip and don't need to run 32bit code (like flash, acroread, w32codecs and so on) or you know how to make them work on amd64, sure
[06:19] <instructor> !restricted > lnxkde
[06:19] <trappist> instructor: yes
[06:19] <Kervan> Some one help me please i habe epson LX300+ printer but i can not print at kubuntu
[06:19] <intelikey> instructor that's what i hear.
[06:19] <Wulong> How do I disable print screen button for running ksnapshot ?
[06:19] <trappist> lnxkde: it takes some work to make those work on amd64.  probably better off with i386
[06:20] <lnxkde> I have done it before.
[06:20] <h3sp4wn> lnxkde: There is a 64 bit java now - and if you use swiftfox for amd64 it is actually a 32 bit app so you can use flash
[06:20] <lnxkde> but I am not goingt to have any time for some months
[06:20] <|lostbyte|> instructor, how about ipod nano ?
[06:20] <trappist> h3sp4wn: there's 64 bit java, but last I heard still no 64 bit java *plugin*
[06:20] <lnxkde> maybe I will be able to work on my pc for 4 hrs a day
[06:20] <lnxkde> that is kind of depressing for me
[06:20] <lnxkde> but well I have to do it.
[06:20] <instructor> |lostbyte|: Yeah it does but you have to squint a lot :)
[06:20] <|lostbyte|> oh ok.
[06:21] <Kervan> Some one help me please i habe epson LX300+ printer but i can not print at kubuntu
[06:21] <eilker> b
[06:22] <eilker> hi people, i have a hp 5610 printer, how will i add it to system , could anyone tell me the way ?
[06:22] <|lostbyte|> instructor, but thats only on the linux version of it ?
[06:23] <eilker> !printer >eilker
[06:23] <h3sp4wn> trappist: understood - but if you are using a 32 bit browser anyway (for flash) you can use the ibm 32 bit jdk (its statically linked)
[06:23] <instructor> Well you could use ipod vi it's a bit more functional but has no easy wheel :(
[06:23] <trappist> h3sp4wn: true
[06:24] <lnxkde> I need java for programing...
[06:24] <lnxkde> not browsing..
[06:24] <lnxkde> I need netbeans on my 64 pc
[06:25] <h3sp4wn> Well the sun 64 bit java should work fine for that then
[06:25] <otaku-san> !printer
[06:25] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[06:26] <intelikey> Jack1_ what have we learned there ?
[06:26] <egonw_> hi all...
[06:27] <egonw_> the upgrade to edgy disabled my swap... how can I enable it again?
[06:27] <intelikey> are you sure ?
[06:27] <egonw_> my fstab now says things with UUID which I have never seen before... help please...
[06:27] <egonw_> intelikey: yes, got a lockup minutes ago...
[06:27] <egonw_> had to reboot :(
[06:27] <Jucato> !UUID | egonw_
[06:27] <ubotu> egonw_: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid"
[06:27] <Jack1_> intelikey: sry i friend syked me couldnt check
[06:28] <egonw_> ok, that's interesting...
[06:28] <egonw_> this line:
[06:28] <egonw_>  /dev/evms/hda2: TYPE="swsuspend" UUID="4a277fe5-2dc2-4ce4-a47d-23d5955c357b"
[06:28] <egonw_> seems to indicate that my swap is now used as suspend partition... correct?
[06:28] <Jucato> that should be type swap...
[06:29] <trappist> egonw_: swsuspend means software suspend
[06:29] <egonw_> trappist: yeah... figured that out... and happy that that is working now...
[06:30] <egonw_> trappist: but prefer to have a swap ...
[06:30] <egonw_> well... better both of course
[06:30] <egonw_> but at least a swap
[06:30] <egonw_> Jucato: how can I make the type 'swap' again?
[06:31] <Jucato> egonw_: maybe trappist knows... :(
[06:31] <intelikey> cfdisk /dev/evms/hda
[06:31] <highneko> beryl-vidcap; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7UbHq2rdRs
[06:32] <intelikey> or cfdisk /dev/hda
[06:32] <egonw_> intelikey: ok, have to hack the partition table for that...
[06:32] <nux> howdy all.. im trying to install samba.. but i get errors all the time.. it like missing 1000 deps-- how can i make apt install the deps too in 1 command with apt?
[06:32] <egonw_> well... fdisk and cfdisk actually say it is swap
[06:32] <trappist> egonw_: check out the man pages for mkswap and swapon
[06:32] <nux> i tryed apt-get -f install samba
[06:33] <nux> and i tyed apt-get install samba --fix-missing
[06:33] <nux> but non of thouse worked
[06:33] <intelikey> " hack the partition table" ???
[06:33] <excitatory> nux: apt always installs missing deps.  something is wrong with your system.. are you using non-official binaries?
[06:33] <h3sp4wn> sfdisk also an option
[06:33] <excitatory> nux: is your system up to date before you install samba?
[06:34] <nux> hmm
[06:34] <egonw_> trappist: I get this error:
[06:34] <nux> no.. its a official bin
[06:34] <egonw_> wapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/4a277fe5-2dc2-4ce4-a47d-23d5955c357b: Invalid argument
[06:34] <egonw_> when doing swapon -a
[06:34] <egonw_> or via -U
[06:34] <intelikey> i'm wondering what is meant by  " hack the partition table" ???
[06:34] <nux> AHA
[06:35] <nux> stupid me
[06:35] <egonw_> intelikey: sorry... just meant fdisk the partition table...
[06:35] <nux> apt-get -f install samba didnt work... but now when i just run apt-get -f install it dl the deps :9
[06:35] <zerak> |joe| you there, i got the sound to work after removing the tv-tuner/card (even though KDE:s sound test is slightly chopy as usual). But i dont want to have to remove and reinstall the tv-tuner when switching between linux - windows
[06:35] <egonw_> ok, so because swapon is not working... the fstab entry is not having any meaning...
[06:36] <egonw_> and the fstab UUID is the same as reported by blkid
[06:36] <|joe|> zerak: hi
[06:37] <|joe|> zerak: that would mean imho that the drivers actually work, but you have problems with the card order
[06:37] <zerak> like some guides indicated but didnt solve
[06:37] <|joe|> zerak: ie you'd need to configure all programs to use your alsa soundcard device, not the tv tuner one
[06:38] <|joe|> zerak: i have actually the same problem but i managed somehow to get all things working
[06:38] <zerak> |joe| i hope there is one singel switch for that...
[06:38] <|joe|> zerak: do you have tv capture card?
[06:38] <zerak> |joe| yep
[06:38] <|joe|> zerak: well afaik, there is not :)
[06:38] <egonw_> trappist, Jucato: thanx for now... need to leave now... will have to figure this out later...
[06:38] <zerak> |joe| cant i just switch their orders in alsa...
[06:38] <|joe|> does anybody know how to change the order of soundcards in alsa
[06:38] <|joe|> ?
[06:39] <|joe|> zerak: now you got the tuner in?
[06:39] <jhutchins> zerak: Do you have your BIOS set to support non-p&p OS?
[06:39] <Jack1_> hi intelikey
[06:39] <intelikey> Jack1_
[06:39] <zerak> support plug & play
[06:39] <guglielf> i checked on wikipedia, according to it nubuntu comes as a live cd and full install: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NUbuntu
[06:39] <zerak> |joe| no
[06:40] <zerak> |joe| tried it recently
[06:40] <Jack1_> intelikey: hmm i got 16 g, music, and photos 4 gb thats it, i thought it was on /home
[06:40] <zerak> |joe| after installing a fresh copy of quake4 =)
[06:40] <Jack1_> intelikey: what do i do now?
[06:40] <|joe|> zerak: bah that one does not work on my comp :) well works but maybe with 5-10fps :)
[06:41] <intelikey> Jack1_ you'll have to cut her some slack there somehow.  i'd sujest burning about 4g of picies to disks
[06:41] <|joe|> zerak: i'd  now try to boot with tuner card and play some sound via alsa - specifying the soundcard hw device
[06:41] <intelikey> or move them to sda1  which is ntfs most likely
[06:42] <zerak> |joe| why on earth do KMix got options on which soundcard to use if it wont change anything?
[06:42] <|joe|> zerak: hm kmix works for me after selecting the correct card
[06:43] <zerak> going to reboot, going to need tips on directing to soundcard later on
[06:44] <intelikey> Jack1_  there is a e2fsexplorer for windows that should let you copy "something" from your /home to your windows install  then you could reboot to linux  and rm what you have safely copied elsewhere giving enough room to wiggle.
[06:44] <Jack1_> hmmm intelikey its on root not on home
[06:44] <Dr_willis> I use that ext2 IFS thing for windows. that shows up your linux drives as normal windows drives.
[06:44] <Jack1_> intelikey: if i move it from root to homw via windows would that be ok?
[06:45] <Dr_willis> moving things under windows - can mess with the ownership. but thats not to hard to fix.
[06:45] <Jack1_> intelikey:  i use that already but since last few times it says /home is not formatted, so i cannot use it
[06:45] <intelikey> i'd do it from linux.   not sure how well windows handles ext3
[06:45] <Jack1_> right
[06:45] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  so far its handled it very well for me. :) better then it handles ntfs. heh.
[06:45] <Jack1_> how can i move from commandline intelikey
[06:45] <Dr_willis> just a few quirks to watch out for.
[06:45] <intelikey> if you but your journal .....
[06:45] <dennister> good morning everyone
[06:46] <Jack1_> intelli
[06:46] <intelikey> Jack1_  mv /dir /someplace
[06:46] <Jack1_> intelikey: shall i do mv
[06:46] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  thats whats sort of nifty about ext3, if the kenel or tool (like that ifs driver) cant handle ext3, it falls back to ext2 mode.
[06:47] <Jack1_> intelikey: ok so /photos /dev/sda1 ?
[06:47] <intelikey> no not to the device
[06:47] <intelikey> to a mounted fs
[06:47] <h3sp4wn> Dr_willis: Using some tools without turning off the journal can cause trouble
[06:47] <Jack1_> intelikey: yes media/win i meant it
[06:47] <Jack1_> thanks for the help!!!
[06:47] <Jack1_> c u guys later
[06:47] <h3sp4wn> you can move files between partitions with dd
[06:48] <intelikey> k  if that's all you need mo for Jack1_ i'm went.
[06:48] <Jack1_> h3sp4wn: is that better than mv?
[06:48] <h3sp4wn> Jack1_: Not at all
[06:48] <Jack1_> c u
[06:48] <Dr_willis> time for some Bash/Linux/101 reading Jack1_  :)
[06:49] <Jack1_> Dr_willis: i read quite a lot thing is
[06:49] <intelikey> Jack1_ h3sp4wn is being technucklehead  :)   just mv the files.
[06:49] <Jack1_> i just better ask someone else before i mess all up.
[06:49] <Jack1_> intelikey: i know him lol
[06:50] <intelikey> h3sp4wn later technucklehead.
[06:50] <intelikey> :)
[06:51] <h3sp4wn> If its something like that squashfs would save a significant amount of space
[06:53] <zerak> |joe| i noticed that i could choose diffrent options in VLC but that only directed the sound to diffrent speakers
[06:55] <|joe|> zerak: hm interesting, my soundcard is now actually #0 and tuner #1
[06:55] <|joe|> zerak: but i swear it was the other way previously :)
[06:55] <|joe|> zerak: does at least alsamixer -c 0 (-c 1) work correctly?
[06:55] <JanK> is this line of the sources.list correct, or need i to add 4 seperate lines for each component?
[06:55] <JanK> deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy universe multiverse main restricted
[06:56] <hollywoodb> JanK: that's fine
[06:56] <hollywoodb> JanK: you don't need four seperate lines
[06:56] <zerak> |joe| both gives me a dialog, 0 -> tv (no options to choose), 1 -> sound (with options)
[06:56] <JanK> thank you, another question, how is the packege with real-player called?
[06:56] <h3sp4wn> JanK: same for edgy-updates , edgy-security
[06:56] <|joe|> zerak: so this works
[06:57] <hollywoodb> !realplayer | JanK
[06:57] <ubotu> JanK: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[06:57] <|joe|> zerak: now do you have any .wav?
[06:57] <h3sp4wn> JanK: (only need 3 lines)
[06:57] <hollywoodb> JanK: i use mplayer or kaffiene to play real-media formats
[06:57] <|joe|> zerak: first of all i assume you have no ~/.asoundrc
[06:57] <zerak> |joe| hmm there are .wav for kde, i usualy use vlc and a movie
[06:57] <|joe|> zerak: just want to try aplay, it plays only wav, no mp3s
[06:58] <zerak> |joe| cant answere that since i dont know what that is
[06:58] <JanK> then i need the codec, for real-videos
[06:58] <|joe|> zerak: than you don't have it :)
[06:58] <h3sp4wn> hollywoodb: Do you use mplayer from in X or just on the console ? (mplayer works great with directfb for me but doesn't work at all well in X)
[06:58] <hollywoodb> h3sp4wn: either/or
[06:58] <zerak> |joe| not always a correct assumption, some guides might have fooled me
[06:59] <|joe|> zerak: ehm so check if you have .asoundrc in your homedir
[06:59] <h3sp4wn> hollywoodb: what -vo do you use in X ?
[06:59] <zerak> |joe| but no manual for asoundrc if that is a program
[06:59] <hollywoodb> h3sp4wn: they all work, except dxr3 and xmga
[06:59] <zerak> |joe| nothing
[07:00] <zerak> |joe| dont got it
[07:00] <h3sp4wn> hollywoodb: I need to mess around with it a little more I guess
[07:00] <|joe|> zerak: ok mmnt
[07:01] <zerak> |joe| ...
[07:01] <|joe|> zerak: try something like aplay -D hw:1 /usr/share/sounds/KDE_Window_Maximize.wav
[07:01] <hollywoodb> h3sp4wn: I have aiglx enabled as well, and except those two they all still work
[07:02] <h3sp4wn> hollywoodb: alsa-control: unable to find simple control 'PCM',0%  2%  0.7% 171 0
[07:02] <|joe|> zerak: you could try aplay -l as well
[07:03] <h3sp4wn> hollywoodb: I get loads of that stuff all down the screen (but only in X)
[07:03] <zerak> |joe| hmm:   channels count not available
[07:03] <|joe|> zerak: and the -l ?
[07:03] <hollywoodb> h3sp4wn: but alsa output works @ console?  That's strange... maybe artsd or something needs to be killed... I don't use artsd
[07:03] <odres> where can I find better drivers for my graph card Intel i810 ?
[07:03] <zerak> |joe| lists my sound devices
[07:03] <hollywoodb> odres: which one are you using now?
[07:04] <|joe|> zerak: this should list pcm streams
[07:04] <zerak> |joe| from 0 - 4 for the right ca0106 (correct one)
[07:04] <|joe|> zerak: oh sorry, -L
[07:04] <odres> the i810 driver that comes with Xubuntu, but I keep getting crashes
[07:04] <h3sp4wn> hollywoodb: I don't either - (I think it is because my soundcard has quite alot of in's and outs and a pretty confusing configuration if you look at it in alsamixer)
[07:04] <hollywoodb> odres: that's the right driver, what kind of crashes?
[07:05] <hollywoodb> h3sp4wn: that could be, my soundcards are all pretty basic... maybe you need to get creative with asound.conf
[07:05] <zerak> |joe| my surround system... lists front, rear, center, surround40 etc
[07:06] <hollywoodb> h3sp4wn: or use OSS output, which should basically spit at /dev/dsp, and should work
[07:06] <instructor> how do I restart my sound I think it died
[07:06] <odres> weird the screen looks like colored horirzontal stripes and xserver and all my user processes stop
[07:06] <|joe|> zerak: looks actually good you now only have to find out the correct alsa dev number for the playback
[07:07] <hollywoodb> odres: are you sure its the video driver? I've never heard of anyone having issues with the i810 driver
[07:07] <Mehercle> hi
[07:07] <zerak> |joe| isnt it just 0 and 1 or do i have to specify the subdevices that is each single speaker
[07:07] <Mehercle> where can i find a package for the amarok moodbar?
[07:07] <hollywoodb> odres: but I've seen things like happen from faulty hardware or overclocking
[07:08] <odres> well I don't know I thought it was memory first, but I used memtest from startup for 12 hours...no errors.the system log files shows ans IO output error with the screen
[07:08] <odres> I am thinking of replacing the onboard card
[07:08] <|joe|> zerak: take a look ath http://alsa.opensrc.org/DigitalOut
[07:09] <|joe|> zerak: check your /proc/asound/devices and then it should be hw:card,pcm#
[07:09] <hollywoodb> odres: maybe the video card has issues?  try the 'intel' driver, I'm not positive that it works with i810 cards, and in my experience it has been a little buggy with suspend/resume, but its worth a shot if your system is suffering that badly
[07:10] <instructor> How do I test my sound?
[07:10] <hollywoodb> odres: also, 'man i810' will give you some driver options that may or may not be useful
[07:10] <hollywoodb> instructor: cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp
[07:10] <TheGateKeeper> instructor: got sound in system settings there is a button there
[07:10] <instructor> Ok
[07:11] <TheGateKeeper> go to sound*
[07:11] <odres> I only have this problem with Xubuntu/Ubuntu/Kubuntu (tried all 3 of them) but not with Mandriva 2006
[07:11] <hollywoodb> odres: maybe its a kernel issue... I don't think X.org could be built so differently as to cause what you're describing
[07:12] <odres> Could be I had this problem with 6.10 and 6.06 but not so often with 5.10
[07:13] <instructor> TheGateKeeper: Hmm
[07:13] <hollywoodb> odres: well you could try a different kernel or two and/or file a bug... sudo apt-cache search linux-image
[07:13] <instructor> Ok I clicked the button and nothing. I disabled the sound system and reenabled it and the progress bas has restarted like 5 times now
[07:14] <ehird> every time i run an x app from a terminal i get
[07:14] <ehird> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[07:14] <ehird> with some more stuff repeated a few times
[07:14] <ehird> the apps work fine tho
[07:14] <hollywoodb> ehird: yep
[07:14] <ehird> any ideas?
[07:14] <TheGateKeeper> instructor: got things turned on, had a look at kmix?
[07:14] <hollywoodb> ehird: search forums for 'wacom xorg.conf'
[07:14] <TheGateKeeper> !sound
[07:14] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[07:15] <ehird> hollywood will in a bit
[07:15] <odres> Which one do you recommend I use 2.6.17-10
[07:15] <hollywoodb> ehird: basically for some reason I don't understand default ubuntu xorg.conf has a bunch of wacom tablet devices listed that you don't have, and that's those errors
[07:16] <hollywoodb> odres: I'm not really sure, you're probably using -generic now, so you could try something more specific like -686
[07:16] <hollywoodb> odres: whether or not they're built differently enough to make any difference i don't really know
[07:16] <eric_> does anyone know what the programs callled that puts the spinning globe o your destop?
[07:16] <TheGateKeeper> odres: kubuntu tends to use module drivers so unless you build your own kernel I doubt you will see much improvement
[07:17] <|joe|> eric_: xearth?
[07:17] <|joe|> eric_: just a guess
[07:17] <instructor> eric_: xearth
[07:17] <eric_> cool,ill go check.is it in the repositorys?
[07:17] <instructor> Go check :)
[07:18] <instructor> !info xearth
[07:18] <ubotu> xearth: Show a rotating earth on your X root window. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1-10.1 (edgy), package size 154 kB, installed size 464 kB
[07:18] <odres> yes I have a PIII 667 Mhz so I should look for a i686 kernel ?
[07:20] <TheGateKeeper> odres: yep
[07:21] <eric_> anything else like xearth for nifty visualizations?
[07:21] <MenZa> I'd like to install drivers for my generic 802.11g wireless PCMCIA card, but I have no idea where to start. Can anyone point me in the right direction :\?
[07:21] <odres> where can I get this ? Do you know a stable version ?
[07:22] <eric_> poop,i installed it bu its not showing up on my desktop,do i need to do something special?
[07:23] <TheGateKeeper> odres: there are ready built kernels in the repos, but you might have more luck building your own, info on that is in the forums
[07:24] <odres> allright I wil try that
[07:26] <odres> I dont know if this wil work check "linux-image-686 - Obsoleted by: linux-image-generic" in apt-cache linux-image
[07:26] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: if you have time can you confirm this? http://launchpad.net/bugs/39444
[07:26] <MidMark> see my last comment
[07:26] <MidMark> only the last one
[07:28] <h3sp4wn> I don't even know what kde-guidance is (so am not a good person to ask about that one)
[07:33] <MidMark> h3sp4wn: kde-guidance is the gui that let you change user password under K->system settings->user management
[07:33] <MidMark> anyone thanx
[07:33] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:34] <michal_> hello
[07:34] <MRMorefield-ft> what is the extended device?
[07:34] <MRMorefield-ft> in fdisk?
[07:36] <zerak> |joe| really cant understand this, vlc can play one one chanel (one speaker) but when trying to use aplay on the same (when vlc is off) i get no sound
[07:37] <eric_> wheres a god place to start for learning shell commands,ive got the basic ones down but want to master the more advanced ones
[07:38] <hollywoodb> eric_: google for a bash tutorial, or check out http://rute.2038bug.com
[07:38] <francis> bonsoir all :)
[07:38] <eric_> aloha
[07:39] <francis> boouhhhh, a roupille ici !!!! mdr
[07:39] <hollywoodb> !fr | francis
[07:39] <ubotu> francis: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:40] <eric_> j'adore la glace
 Sorry since edgy eft there is no i686 kernel anymore, just the "generic"
[07:40] <osh_> je suis un baguette.
[07:41] <hollywoodb> yes I'd love a bagel
[07:41] <odres> Does anyone know how to increase the allocated memory for the video card in xorg.conf ?
[07:44] <eric_> ill have lox on mine
[07:44] <h3sp4wn> eric_: I would recommend zsh over bash (for interactive use)
[07:44] <h3sp4wn> eric_: And for scripting it supports most things that are supported by csh / ksh and bash
[07:44] <eric_> huh?whats hat ean sorry first time on irc
[07:44] <eric_> that mean*
[07:45] <h3sp4wn> Nicer shell to use than bash (I think)
[07:45] <h3sp4wn> aptitude install zsh
[07:46] <MRMorefield-ft> mount: can't find /dev/hdb1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:47] <h3sp4wn> eric_: exec zsh
[07:47] <h3sp4wn> eric_: (it has lot of nice features - such as command completion from external programs)
[07:49] <wezlo> hey, is anyone on here using kubuntu and bluetooth?
[07:50] <dennister> dangitall...I'm timing out again
[07:50] <dennister> rogers is driving me nuts
[07:52] <dennister> what with their traffic-shaping before i get a chance to counteract it with software...
[07:52] <Jack1> h3sp4wn:
[07:52] <Jack1> h3sp4wn: hi, i cannot scroll up and down in console via page up and shift
[07:52] <|joe|> zerak: you should probably try to find a device where you get stereo
[07:53] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: In a vt ?
[07:54] <Jack1> in console mode h3sp4wn  whats a vt?
[07:55] <h3sp4wn> It works fine for me (unless I am in screen which I am 99% of the time)
[07:55] <h3sp4wn> then ^a escape puts it into scroll mode
[07:55] <Jack1> how can get a file tree for / in console mode?
[07:56] <Jack1> i can scroll up and down?
[07:56] <h3sp4wn> I dunno I can (using the method you described above)
[07:56] <eric_> any one know ofany progs that will spiffy up my gui?
[07:56] <Jack1> i'll try thx
[07:56] <egonw> trappist: thanx again for earlier... re-mkswap-ing the swap partition allowed me swapon it again
[07:56] <major_stitch> eric_: what Window manager?
[07:57] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Usually I just screen in a vt (just by default makes copy and paste etc easier once you learn the shortcuts)
[07:57] <zerak> |joe| but how come vlc can give me sound when i choose a device but aplay wont
[07:57] <major_stitch> h3sp4wn: just downloaded and set up Ubuntu from kubuntu...wasn't so bad at all :)
[07:57] <|joe|> zerak: no idea
[07:57] <h3sp4wn> major_stitch: Not remotely interesting though
[07:58] <major_stitch> h3sp4wn: i'm not adventurous
[07:58] <trappist> egonw: ossum
[07:58] <h3sp4wn> major_stitch: fair enough
[08:00] <eric_> what are the benifits of ubuntu over kubuntu?
[08:00] <wezlo> hey folks, I've having difficulties pairing bluetooth devices in edgy, anyone have any inights?
[08:00] <h3sp4wn> eric_: It has alot more developers (and hence is more well developed / tested)
[08:01] <eric_> ubuntu or k?
[08:01] <h3sp4wn> ubuntu
[08:01] <eric_> cool
[08:01] <T3hWiz0rd> !k3b-mp3
[08:01] <T3hWiz0rd> !k3b
[08:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about k3b-mp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:01] <ubotu> k3b is a feature-rich and user-friendly burning application for KDE (and, as all KDE applications, works fine on GNOME). For a guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/K3BHowto
[08:02] <odres> eric_ go for Xubuntu !
[08:02] <zerak> |joe| located which channels that are what, eg. 1,0 are the two fronts (stereo) :  1,1 rear  :  1,2 middle and one unknown (probably sub)
[08:03] <zerak> |joe| take that back, maybe not sub after all
[08:03] <|joe|> zerak: and aplay -D hw:1,0 doesn't work
[08:04] <zerak> |joe|
[08:04] <zerak> laying WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/KDE_Window_Maximize.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 22050 Hz, Mono
[08:04] <zerak> aplay: set_params:906: Channels count not available
[08:04] <|joe|> zerak: hm
[08:05] <zerak> |joe| and if i do it while vlc then it is busy
[08:05] <zerak> |joe| so it works but not with aplay
[08:05] <|joe|> zerak: and did you have stereo without the tuner?
[08:06] <age1172> are .jar files executable in kubuntu?
[08:06] <zerak> |joe| had sound as default without it
[08:06] <|joe|> zerak: but stereo
[08:07] <eric_> how do i change my settings to allow me to log in as root?
[08:07] <|joe|> age1172: .jar is a .zip containing usually java app
[08:07] <thingy> age1172: yes! They are shot on sight! ummm actually...double clicking on a jar file seems to bring up ark which is the archiving util
[08:07] <zerak> |joe| either stereo or surround, didnt check which
[08:07] <|joe|> age1172: you can run it somehow with java
[08:07] <age1172> how to run it
[08:07] <thingy> age1172: to run jar file --> java -jar filename.jar
[08:07] <|joe|> thingy: that's because it's actually a zip
[08:07] <eric_> cant you just change the .jar to .zip and open it normaly
[08:08] <|joe|> no
[08:08] <age1172> thanks
[08:08] <|joe|> when run with jave it looks then for the Main class
[08:08] <thingy> |joe|: dang it..I had to hunt for the | key joe! :-)
[08:09] <|joe|> thingy: well i can't help but all [_] joe[_]  nicks are reserved :)
[08:09] <|joe|> zerak: have you tried now hw:1,1 and 1,2?
[08:09] <ehird> i added the amarok 1.4.4 repos
[08:09] <ehird> but it's still 1.4.3 according to apt-cache
[08:09] <abattoir> thingy: just press j and Tab ;)
[08:09] <ehird> i've updated and dist-upgraded
[08:09] <ehird> ideas?
[08:10] <zerak> |joe| without the tv-card or what do you mean?
[08:10] <|joe|> abattoir: me begin with pipe ;-)
[08:10] <|joe|> zerak: now
[08:10] <thingy> |joe|: try being bob...thats a good name! bet its not registered...or how about MightyJoe
[08:10] <abattoir> |joe|: doesn't matter, an intelligent client would help overcome annoyances like that :P
[08:10] <abattoir> an intelligent client, like konversation ;)
[08:11] <h3sp4wn> if you start a nic with ]  then it breaks irssi's tab completion
[08:11] <h3sp4wn> *nick
[08:12] <h3sp4wn> i.e ] h3sp4wn[
[08:12] <eric_> what app would i use to add a second root acount?
[08:12] <mnepton> eric_: do you mean another account with sudo access?
[08:13] <abattoir> eric_: you mean you want to give 'sudo' privs. to another account?
[08:13] <abattoir> oh, sorry :P
[08:13] <h3sp4wn> there can only be one root (you can have another name like proot or whatever but if it has 0:0 it is root
[08:13] <eric_> full acsess so i dont have to keep typeing in my password
[08:13] <ehird> ideas?
[08:13] <age1172> thingy;it says Failed to load Main-Class manifest attribute from ***.jar
[08:13] <|joe|> well uid=0 can be only one user
[08:13] <abattoir> eric_: for that, you'd have to edit /etc/sudoers
[08:13] <|joe|> eric_: you can configure sudo not to require password
[08:13] <h3sp4wn> you can have 2 entries in /etc/passwd with 0:0
[08:13] <age1172> i replaced file name with stars
[08:13] <|joe|> eric_: visudo
[08:14] <h3sp4wn> (or more)
[08:14] <eric_> um when i installed i used root as my user name and ubuntu wont let me log into it useing that acount
[08:14] <thingy> age1172: What's the app? you may need to pass a class name
[08:14] <eric_> cool
[08:14] <|joe|> h3sp4wn: hm didn't know about it, thnx
[08:14] <h3sp4wn> samw    ALL = NOPASSWD: ALL
[08:14] <ehird> eric_: you fail at understanding how sudo works
[08:14] <mnepton> eric_: the root login is disabled by design. a machine that allows a root login is far more likely to be compromised. use sudo, or, if that's really, *reaaly onerous, use "sudo su"
[08:14] <age1172> how?
[08:14] <ehird> and why root is a bad idea
[08:14] <h3sp4wn> (that is an example sudo entry so sudo doesn't ask for the password all the time)
[08:14] <fdoving> mnepton: 'sudo -i' > 'sudo su'
[08:14] <thingy> age1172: To find out what class name to pass...I need to know what app you are trying to run
[08:15] <eric_> brb
[08:15] <mnepton> fdoving: different strokes for different folks. same thing, essentially though.
[08:15] <thingy> age1172: but to answer your question --> java -jar filename.jar myJavaClass
[08:15] <|joe|> thingy: i think per default Main is run
[08:17] <ehird> ..
[08:17] <thingy> |joe|: yep but the error he gets is indicating there is no main clain in the jar...would help to know what app hes trying to use...usually the java devs put a bash script in the distribution to execute the app
[08:17] <fdoving> mnepton: you don't read roots environment variables, that can break stuff, as you run stuff as root within a user environment. sudo -i fixes that, safer.
[08:17] <|joe|> thingy: ok didn't notice there was already an error :)
[08:18] <|joe|> sometimes it help just to dig into the .jar and find what looks like main class
[08:18] <age1172> the app is file named keygen.jar?
[08:19] <|joe|> age1172: .jar is a .zip of compiled .class files
[08:19] <|joe|> age1172: each .class file contains compiled bytecode for one java class
[08:19] <eric_> it wont let me edit the password file
[08:19] <|joe|> age1172: and to start an application you have to define which class of those .class has to be "started"
[08:19] <age1172> how can i do that
[08:20] <|joe|> age1172: if you don't define anything java will look for Main (or similar) and if it finds no Main, it does not know how to run the .jar
[08:20] <|joe|> age1172: don't you have any doc?
[08:20] <eric_> i tried to edit the password file an it saownerys i dont have permission because im not the
[08:21] <age1172> i will see
[08:21] <|joe|> age1172: is it some public stuff?
[08:23] <zerak> |joe| yes KDE:s test sound gives stereo (only front sides)
[08:23] <|joe|> zerak: maybe you can now try to play with aplay to find out which subdevice is correct
[08:24] <|joe|> zerak: but you'll probably have to stop kde's sound system for it
[08:24] <Jack1> h3sp4wn: i cannot login due to 100%use on /, but i just find system files there..its 20GB
[08:24] <|joe|> zerak: if the card and drivers support hw mixing you wouldn't have to :)
[08:25] <Jack1> h3sp4wn: my ist-upgrade stopped couple of times i guess its the temporary update files
[08:25] <ehird> surely it's a simple q
[08:25] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: make some more space then (or remove some stuff)
[08:25] <Jack1> h3sp4wn: how? if i just find system files and dunno which one are ost important?
[08:25] <Jack1> most
[08:25] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: get rid of all of /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:26] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: resise some other partitions to make some more space
[08:26] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: Unless its only a 20gb drive
[08:26] <zerak> |joe| do you remember where the kde:s .wav where?
[08:26] <|joe|> zerak: /usr/share/sounds
[08:27] <jobless_> abattoir u there?
[08:27] <abattoir> jobless_: yes
[08:27] <Jack1> hmm u think i can delete some file from windows via ifs drives
[08:27] <Jack1> h3sp4wn:
[08:27] <|joe|> thingy: hm now i found out the main class can be actually specified via manifest in the .jar
[08:27] <jobless_> hey abattoir, i got a question thats out of topic here .. is that ok if i ask u?
[08:28] <abattoir> jobless_: hmm, pm me then
[08:28] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: I would fix it from recovery mode
[08:28] <JohnFlux2> h3sp4wn: Jack1: it's better to use  apt-get clean
[08:28] <JohnFlux2> h3sp4wn: Jack1: then apt-get autoremove
[08:28] <sarixe> anyone know how to setup samba for sharing a printer?
[08:29] <abattoir> !samba | sarixe
[08:29] <thingy> |joe|: oh and I was googling as well...and sometimes...if the java -jar filename.jar doesn't work you can try a "java -cp /path/to/file/file.jar className" to get the app to run...can't tell age now as he's left
[08:29] <ubotu> sarixe: samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[08:29] <Jack1> JohnFlux id did aptget clean, but not apt get autoremove
[08:29] <h3sp4wn> JohnFlux2: why all apt-get clean does is exactly the same thing
[08:29] <abattoir> jobless_: not registered?
[08:29] <sarixe> thanks
[08:29] <zerak> |joe| "$ aplay -D hw:0,0 /usr/share/sounds/pop.wav" gives same problem (noticed that i use 0,0 instead of 1,0 previously)
[08:29] <JohnFlux2> h3sp4wn: right but you're less likely to screw up ;-)
[08:30] <|joe|> thingy: well i found out that the manifests could be eventually incompatible between win and nix because of newlines :) maybe that was the prob
[08:30] <|joe|> zerak: that's really weird
[08:30] <thingy> zerak: whats the sound issue you have ?
[08:30] <|joe|> zerak: 0,1 or 0,2?
[08:30] <jobless_> abattoir: no
[08:30] <h3sp4wn> JohnFlux2: Its no better or worse (I usually use aptitude autoclean) but if I want to get rid of them all I just use rm -rf /var/cache/apt/archives
[08:30] <|joe|> zerak: would be really interesting if aplay couldn't play wav files via alsa
[08:31] <JohnFlux2> h3sp4wn: until the one day you accidently pressed return while typing  rm -rf /
[08:31] <zerak> |joe| none of them gave me anything, i hope there is enough to uncheck the "give me sound" box in kde
[08:31] <|joe|> thingy: you have to disable the sound system
[08:31] <zerak> |joe| "enable the sound system"
[08:31] <JohnFlux2> h3sp4wn: not saying it's a big risk or anything, but just safer to use apt-get clean
[08:31] <JohnFlux2> h3sp4wn:  good habits and all that
[08:31] <|joe|> thingy: but if you don't aplay should complain that device is already used
[08:32] <zerak> |joe| vlc plays default and KDE plays when using test button
[08:32] <|joe|> thingy: sorry -> zerak
[08:32] <|joe|> zerak: both with stereo
[08:32] <Jack1> h3sp4wn: hmm..i got just 75mb /var files i cannot understand where are the big files
[08:32] <zerak> |joe| vlc plays with stereo
[08:32] <zerak> |joe| settings
[08:32] <|joe|> zerak: what happens if you just say hw:0
[08:33] <zerak> |joe| same
[08:33] <h3sp4wn> Jack1: I wouldn't mess around in /var (other than /var/cache/apt/archives)
[08:33] <zerak> Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/pop.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Mono
[08:33] <zerak> aplay: set_params:906: Channels count not availabl
[08:34] <thingy> Jack1: du -hs /*  <--- will give you a clue as where the disk usage is hiding
[08:35] <Jack1> try that again c u
[08:41] <csills> Hey guys
[08:41] <csills> I had my Acer Prisa 620U scanner working with Ubuntu
[08:41] <csills> and suddely it just quit working
[08:42] <csills> not recognized anymore
[08:42] <csills> anybody have any suggestions
[08:42] <csills> I have tried several fixes but none have worked
[08:44] <eric_> whats the shell comand for modifying file permissions
[08:45] <zerak> chmod
[08:45] <jobless> abattoir: can you pm me?
[08:45] <fannagoganna> chmod
[08:45] <fannagoganna> yes sorry
[08:47] <abattoir> jobless: i just did
[08:47] <abattoir> jobless: are you getting my messages?
[08:48] <thingy> csills: 1. Is the USB device detected? (look at output of lsusb command or cat /proc/bus/usb/devices) 2. It looks like this brand of scanner needs firmware to uploaded to the scanner before the scanner works...look at this url to see if it helps debug things....if you can identify what is not happening we might be able to tell you how to put it right...my guess = firmware not being loaded into scanner http://snapscan.sourceforge.net/
[08:48] <thingy> I thought they took out the priv messages facility in freenode because of spam and abuse...
[08:49] <thingy> ah I can priv msg my self...cool!
[08:49] <drakan> Hmm...
[08:49] <drakan> Anyone have experience with Wireless Belkin PCMIA Adapters?
[08:50] <drakan> It seems to want to disable itself right after I enable the service
[08:50] <thingy> drakan: model number
[08:50] <thingy> drakan: ?
[08:50] <drakan> p81989-A
[08:50] <drakan> I think
[08:51] <thingy> drakan: and what do you mean by "enable the service"? is the card being detected fine?
[08:51] <Gecko> If I write locate libgtk-1.2.so* slocate segfaults, but it doesn't if I write locate libgtk-1.2.so. Is this a bug?
[08:52] <csills> Thanks Thingy
[08:52] <drakan> Detected yes
[08:52] <drakan> but it won't enable when I hit "enable"
[08:53] <drakan> its goes straight back
[08:53] <drakan> to disabled
[08:53] <drakan> =\
[08:53] <thingy> drakan: any messages in /var/log/messages when you try and enable it? also anything shown in ~/.xsession-errors ?
[08:54] <drakan> I'm completely new to Linux... You might have to explain where to find those files :x
[08:54] <thingy> umm
[08:54] <markelhas> hi ppl
[08:54] <drakan> But I can say, the Wireless card doesn't show any lights when plugged in
[08:54] <drakan> I guess that could go with the whole disabled part
[08:55] <markelhas> can someone help me config my network/samba?
[08:55] <kraut> moin
[08:55] <thingy> drakan: ok can you open the kde menu and select the System\System Logs Viewer app
[08:55] <jhutchins_wk> markelhas: Possibly #samba?
[08:55] <drakan> Gotcha
[08:56] <markelhas> jhutchins_wk: oki
[08:56] <drakan> I'm there
[08:56] <drakan> And there are alot of messages here
[08:57] <drakan> It's mostly saying
[08:57] <drakan> DHCPDISCOVER on eth1 to 155.
[08:57] <drakan> x_X;;
[08:57] <drakan> *255.255.255.255 port 67 interval (xx)
[08:58] <drakan> Where xx is a random number between 3 and 16
[08:58] <drakan> =\
[08:58] <drakan> And, send_packet: Network is down
[08:59] <markelhas> anyone that is a samba expert!?
[09:00] <thingy> drakan: select the last buncha log entries that appear when you try to enable the device and once selected, click on File/Save and save them as a file. Then dcc the file to me
[09:01] <drakan> Err... The computer i'm talking about is not connected to the internet :x
[09:01] <drakan> Because the wireless won't work
[09:01] <drakan> This is a 2nd computer i'm on now
[09:01] <drakan> BUT
[09:01] <drakan> What is says is
[09:02] <drakan> Main: error loading '/lib/firmware/bcm43xx_microcode5.fw' for device '/class/firmware/0000:02:00.0' with driver 'bcm43xx'
[09:02] <drakan> And the 2nd part, says bcm43xx_microcode5.fw is not available or load failed
[09:03] <drakan> So it has to do with the driver being bad =\
[09:03] <thingy> drakan: no it means that the firmware (bcm43xx_microcode5.fw) file is not being found(most prob.)
[09:04] <thingy> drakan: type in 'find / -iname "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw"' and tell me if that returns a match
[09:05] <drakan> k
[09:05] <drakan> in Konsole
[09:05] <drakan> ?
[09:05] <intelikey> -iname  ?    hmmm i'll have to revisit the man pages...
[09:05] <thingy> drakan:  yes
[09:05] <intelikey> drakan yes that's a cli command.
[09:05] <thingy> intelikey: -iname = don't care about the case
[09:05] <intelikey> k
[09:07] <drakan> I did a sudo
[09:07] <drakan> regular doesn't work o_o
[09:08] <eric__> trying to fix a problem with my password file,im trying to give my normal loging name no password and full acsess,any help?
[09:08] <elias_> what is the main advantage of kde4's libs over kde3? what justifies this huge portation effort to port all kde3 apps to the new API/toolkit/libs?
[09:09] <eric__> eric:$1$YiPqh20t$vvAc.wkSXCMDQCgqO6Szi.:1001:1001:,,,:/home/eric:/bin/bash is my normal usernames line what should i do?
[09:09] <thingy> elias: WHY are you cross posting the same question to both channels?
[09:09] <intelikey> eric__  yeah. close the editor  and do   sudo passwd -d 'username'
[09:09] <thingy> drakan: has the search finished?
[09:10] <drakan> Dont think it will work =\
[09:10] <drakan> dunno why
[09:10] <intelikey> eric__ "and full acsess" ???   make him root jr. ?
[09:10] <drakan> it doesn't respond
[09:10] <drakan> what about sudo -iname "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw"
[09:10] <drakan> it doesnt work either
[09:10] <drakan> sudo find / -iname*
[09:11] <thingy> drakan: press ctrl + c in the konsole to get back to the prompt and then type in --> find / -iname "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw"
[09:11] <intelikey> eric__ can you define  "and full access" please ?
[09:11] <drakan> Bunch of Permission Denied messages
[09:11] <drakan> thats why I tried sudo
[09:11] <thingy> drakan: thats ok...
[09:12] <thingy> drakan: the permission denied messages occur since normal users cant go in some directories
[09:12] <eric__> root jr
[09:12] <drakan> ok
[09:12] <eric__> whats the -d?
[09:12] <intelikey> eric__   man passwd
[09:12] <thingy> drakan: ok so you don't have the firmware file then...can i confirm that this card didn't work on edgy at all?
[09:12] <drakan> what's edgy
[09:13] <drakan> Sorry for being stupid
[09:13] <drakan> :x
[09:13] <intelikey> eric__   if you want passwordless sudoing   visudo   and  add    'username' ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[09:13] <fdoving> !edgy | drakan
[09:13] <ubotu> drakan: Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades  -  To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download (please use BitTorrent if you can!)
[09:13] <drakan> Okay
[09:13] <intelikey> man sudoers    for that one.
[09:13] <drakan> Well I used the one off the website
[09:13] <drakan> The CD iso
[09:14] <eric__> what if i just wanta password when my computer starts up?
[09:14] <drakan> ok yes
[09:14] <drakan> it
[09:14] <drakan> It's edgy*
[09:14] <intelikey> eric__ you do know that you are setting up a very insecure system...
[09:14] <magicmike> What command do I type to edit and save changes in /etc/fstab?
[09:14] <eric__> yes
[09:14] <thingy> drakan: can you confirm that it never worked in edgy at all?
[09:14] <drakan> so far, yes
[09:15] <drakan> It's my first day on Kubuntu ;_;
[09:15] <intelikey> eric__ then set a password on the account and set sudoers to passwordless  as above....   that's not  at all the advice that *buntu team would have me give you tho.
[09:15] <eric__> my comp.is in a safe place and has very little sensitive info
[09:15] <adam_> Is there anyone here running 6.10 amd64?
[09:15] <eric__> cool
[09:16] <JohnFlux_> adam_: ask dont ask to ask
[09:16] <adam_> Joh: huh? you've lost me on that?
[09:16] <BluesKaj> tried amd64 ...nothing but probs in dapper, so I switched to x86 32 bit
[09:17] <adam_> dapper worked great for me, but edgy seems a mess
[09:17] <BluesKaj> now at least my hardware works
[09:17] <intelikey> heh i did cat /etc/sudoers  to give you that line ^^ for your sudoers... "ALL ALL = (ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL" <--- my /etc/sudoers file.       what do i care how you set up your boxen.....
[09:17] <magicmike> adam: Just ask and if you get lucky someone will answer.
[09:18] <BluesKaj> x86 32bit works well in edgy too on this amd64 pc
[09:18] <intelikey> it should probably be noted that this box is also "NO SUID"   so sudo does nothing anyway.
[09:18] <intelikey> tty2 [greg@~]  sudo echo
[09:18] <intelikey> sudo: must be setuid root
[09:18] <markelhas> ppl need help to config samba, anyone!?
[09:18] <JohnFlux_> !ask
[09:18] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[09:19] <intelikey> markelhas sorry  ! i
[09:19] <markelhas> intelikey: can u help me with samba configQ?
[09:19] <BluesKaj> markelhas, welcome to the club ...difficult request I'm afraid
[09:20] <intelikey> markelhas no.   "! i" == "not i"   i've never setup a smb client or server.
[09:20] <markelhas> BluesKaj: hummm, i've trying with wiki googling but can't manage to put it working
[09:21] <BluesKaj> yeah, it's quite labour intensive
[09:21] <markelhas> TheGateKeeper: are u there?
[09:21] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: you havent actually asked a question yet
[09:21] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: as far as i can see
[09:22] <zerak> |joe| it is plugged in and it gives me sound when doing "$ apart -D plughw:1,0 /usr/share/sound/pop.wav"
 intelikey: can u help me with samba configQ?
[09:22] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: I need help to config samba, can't "see" my windows machine, neitheir windows machine to see mine
[09:22] <|joe|> zerak: ok what do we drink
[09:23] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: so i think the kestion is made!
[09:23] <|joe|> zerak: now you could try to set up dmix plugin if you'd like to use sw mixing
[09:23] <zerak> |joe| not yet, still some stuff to do before it works as intended
[09:23] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: how can i config it?
[09:23] <BluesKaj> that's a biggy
[09:23] <intelikey> markelhas & blueskaj    i can sujest that other channels might find more help on that....   ##linux  ##linuxhelp  #ubuntu  #debian (maybe)....
[09:23] <zerak> |joe| sw mixing?
[09:23] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: if you go to smb://   do you see any machines?
[09:23] <hollywoodb> #debian is alway super-helpful
[09:23] <|joe|> zerak: otherwise you'll end up fighting with artsd flash and stuff
[09:24] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: nope
[09:24] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: smb://localhost/  rather
[09:24] <|joe|> zerak: your card can play only one sound at once
[09:24] <|joe|> so if you want to eg play kde sounds while using vlc/mplayer/amarok/... you have to mix the sounds
[09:24] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: have you installed samba  ?
[09:25] <|joe|> zerak: and because your card won't do it, you have to do it in sw .... that's where alsa's dmix helps
[09:25] <LeeJunFan> anyone know where I'd look to set the increment that volume increases or decreases when using the ACPI volume buttons on the keyboard?
[09:25] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: apt-get install samba samba-common smbclient
[09:25] <zerak> |joe| sw?
[09:25] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: then sudo /etc/init.d/samba start
[09:25] <|joe|> zerak: the sw mixes the sound streams into one
[09:26] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: i've done that, and config smbusers
[09:26] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: that's a problem there is no samba in that dir
[09:27] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: in which dir?
[09:27] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: oh  /etc/init.d/samba  ?
[09:27] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: yes
[09:27] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: i've follow this http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Samba_Server
[09:27] <JohnFlux_> ubotu:  find /etc/init.d/samba
[09:27] <ubotu> File /etc/init.d/samba found in samba
[09:28] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: please double check you have installed samba
[09:28] <zerak> |joe| For ALSA 1For ALSA 1.0.9rc2 and higher you don't need to setup dmix.
[09:28] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: apt-get install samba
[09:28] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: if it says it's installed, we'll reinstall
[09:28] <|joe|> zerak: where did you find that?
[09:28] <zerak> |joe| evil paste (middle mouse)  For ALSA 1.0.9rc2 and higher you don't need to setup dmix.
[09:28] <zerak> |joe| http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:28] <markelhas> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[09:28] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[09:29] <|joe|> zerak: well ok in that case try it with aplay
[09:29] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: hmm, okay  do   apt-get install --reinstall samba
[09:29] <|joe|> zerak: aplay -D plug:dmix
[09:30] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: i've kubuntu 6.10, just for remark
[09:30] <|joe|> zerak: don't know though if it's configured correctly to use your sc
[09:30] <zerak> |joe|
[09:30] <zerak> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:862:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[09:30] <zerak> aplay: main:547: audio open error: No such file or directory
[09:30] <zerak> |joe| maybe not...
[09:30] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: done
[09:31] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: does it exist now?
[09:31] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: nopes :(
[09:31] <|joe|> zerak: maybe it points per default to the first card
[09:31] <zerak> |joe| maybe
[09:31] <zerak> |joe| then it should be a simple change if one finds where
[09:32] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: ah wait
[09:32] <|joe|> zerak: you can try the aplay -v -D plughw:1,0 and note the params at the bottom and try to configure this stuff as described in the howto
[09:32] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: i've made a find . -name samba and i thinks it's on etc/samba
[09:32] <|joe|> zerak: seems you cannot set the dmix's slave to plughw
[09:33] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: nah wait
[09:33] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: do   apt-get remove --purge samba
[09:33] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: then apt-get install samba
[09:33] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: that will recreate the files
[09:33] <JohnFlux_> i cant remember the apt-get install   command to reinstall the config files
[09:33] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: oki
[09:34] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: nopes :(
[09:35] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: still no?
[09:35] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: :/
[09:35] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: grr
[09:35] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: :(
[09:36] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: okay do:  dpkg --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/samba_*.deb
[09:36] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: that should do it
[09:37] <JohnFlux_> oh wait
[09:37] <|joe|> zerak: you could try the config from here http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=310448&highlight=asoundrc+ca0106
[09:37] <|joe|> zerak: replace the card 0 with card 1 and remove the pcm.duplicate
[09:37] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: dpkg --force-confmiss -i /var/cache/apt/archives/samba_*.deb
[09:38] <JohnFlux_> Setting up samba (3.0.22-1ubuntu4) ...
[09:38] <JohnFlux_> Configuration file `/etc/init.d/samba', does not exist on system.
[09:38] <JohnFlux_> Installing new config file as you request.
[09:38] <|joe|> zerak: then you should be able to aplay -D dout
[09:38] <JohnFlux_> i get that when i delete that file then run that command
[09:38] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: so try that
[09:38] <zerak> |joe| where? one said ~/.asoundrc but then i must install those packages first but it doesnt sound like i am suppose to do that on you
[09:39] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: the command is not working, can u check it for me plz?
[09:39] <|joe|> zerak: ~/.asoundrc is correct, what packages do you mean?
[09:39] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: okay one sec
[09:40] <zerak> |joe| wasnt that like the first question you asked, dont got that dir
[09:40] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: if you do:   ls  /var/cache/apt/archives/samba_*.deb    do you get several versions?
[09:40] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: or one version, or no files
[09:41] <|joe|> zerak: you have to create .asoundrc in your home dir
[09:41] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: 1 version
[09:41] <zerak> mkdri .asoundrc
[09:41] <zerak> ls
[09:41] <zerak> ls
[09:41] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: /var/cache/apt/archives/samba_3.0.22-1ubuntu4_i386.deb
[09:41] <|joe|> zerak: no it's a file
[09:41] <|joe|> zerak: what's your favourite editor? :)
[09:42] <zerak> |joe| got none, use vi mostly though, nano is nice too
[09:42] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: dpkg --force-confmiss -i /var/cache/apt/archives/samba_*.deb
[09:42] <JohnFlux_> that should work
[09:42] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: what error does it give
[09:42] <lipe> please, i need the file called libelf.so.1
[09:42] <|joe|> zerak: ok si simply vim ~/.asoundrc
[09:42] <JohnFlux_> lipe: er
[09:43] <zerak> |joe| copy paste his, but if there is no such file then what tells that there should be
[09:43] <JohnFlux_> lipe: what did you do?
[09:43] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: this last is ok
[09:43] <|joe|> zerak: vi will create a new file
[09:43] <zerak> |joe| did, noob but not that noobish even though i thought i wrote in Yakau... (what it is called =P)
[09:43] <lipe> JohnFlux_: please, do u have this file??
[09:43] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: but this msg "Configuration file `/etc/init.d/samba', does not exist on system." is there.
[09:44] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: samba there now
[09:44] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: excellent
[09:44] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: now /etc/init.d/samba start
[09:45] <JohnFlux_> lipe: why do you need it?
[09:45] <zerak> |joe| should i fill it with their information from the web page? Will it really fit my config
[09:45] <lipe> i need this library to use libelf...
[09:45] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: done that can see mshome and my pc
[09:45] <|joe|> zerak: it's the same driver, try it out
[09:45] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: :-)
[09:45] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: can't see one but also can't see in windows :(, that's another story
[09:46] <al00> g'day -- kubuntu newbie here -- booting up from the Edgy DVD and getting dropped off at /Desktop. Tried in to install in "graphics safe" mode -- same result. Any suggestions?
[09:46] <|joe|> zerak: check the output from aplay -D plughw:1,0 it displays some pars (eg rate) at the bottom
[09:46] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: can i share a folder/printer from kubuntu to windows pcs!?
[09:46] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: btw if you want to share a folder on your desktop you have to set the read and access permissions for Desktop
[09:46] <al00> I guess I should have mentioned that I'm trying to Install Kubuntu :-)
[09:47] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: i fixed that bug but it won't be in till the next update
[09:47] <zerak> |joe| worked but forgot to change the card 0 to card 1
[09:47] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: hmm yes.  not sure how through the gui.  i think run the system settings and share it from the printer settings thing
[09:48] <JohnFlux_> lipe: I'm not being difficult, but elf is a pretty low level thing!
[09:48] <visitor> hey whats going on everyone?
[09:48] <JohnFlux_> lipe: you shouldn't be playing with such libraries
[09:48] <|joe|> al00: what do you mean by getting dropped off at /Desktop
[09:48] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: ok for the printer and one folder in /home?
[09:48] <al00> |joe| -- may I chat in private?
[09:48] <oslo> my ipod dont mount !
[09:48] <JohnFlux_> markelhas: as long as the folder isn't in /home/markel/Desktop
[09:48] <lipe> somebody help me!!!!!! im trying to read the head of a ELF file, so i need this library to work...
[09:48] <|joe|> al00: i'm not registered so i can't
[09:48] <|joe|> al00: you can try a separate channel
[09:49] <visitor> i dont think that there is any way you can chat in private in here
[09:49] <JohnFlux_> lipe: edgy comes with 0.8
[09:49] <|joe|> visitor: if you're registered privmsgs work :)
[09:49] <JohnFlux_> lipe: i wouldn't recommend installing a different version
[09:49] <visitor> oh well i am not registered so i cant
[09:49] <zerak> |joe| ah when you say it i noticed after rate it say mono
[09:50] <JohnFlux_> visitor: /msg nickserv register
[09:50] <visitor> whats up joe?
[09:50] <JohnFlux_> visitor: ;-)
[09:50] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: oki i've shared one, not the desktop, now only search in windows network and that's all?
[09:50] <|joe|> zerak: hm
[09:50] <visitor> i dont want to pay anything for this
[09:50] <|joe|> zerak: just try it :)
[09:50] <lipe> man, what r u talking about??
[09:50] <JohnFlux_> visitor: freenode is free
[09:50] <visitor> oh ok
[09:51] <visitor> whats up johnflux?
[09:51] <JohnFlux_> lipe: ubuntu comes with libelf.0.8.6
[09:51] <al00> |joe|: I slap in a freshly burned Edgy DVD. Boot. I am prompted with the Menu. I select install, the status bar looks strange and incomplete. The boot image seems to load... I expect to see a GUI for install of the OS but I end up at a command prompt in the /Desktop folder.
[09:51] <JohnFlux_> visitor: at the ubuntu summit in california
[09:51] <JohnFlux_> lipe: if you want a later version you'll have to compile it yourself
[09:51] <visitor> what in the hell are people talking about in here?
[09:51] <|joe|> visitor: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#registering
[09:51] <al00> |joe|: I initially thought it was a graphics issue (still not convinced that it isn't) and tried to install with option 2 which is graphics safe mode -- same result
[09:52] <visitor> how old are you guys in here?
[09:52] <JohnFlux_> visitor: 25 myself
[09:52] <dimsuz> hi! anyone aware of what *-dev package contains Xlib.h?
[09:52] <|joe|> al00: what graph card?
[09:52] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: okis it's working, doesn't apper in network, but if i do \\ip ask for pass and the share is there
[09:52] <visitor> oh, im 19
[09:52] <dimsuz> it dissapeared after upgrade to edgy
[09:52] <JohnFlux_> ubotu: find xlib.h
[09:52] <ubotu> File xlib.h found in graphviz-dev, kvirc-dev, libax25-dev, libcairo2-dev, libcegui-mk2-dev (and 7 others)
[09:52] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: Thnks
[09:52] <JohnFlux_> dimsuz: ^^
[09:52] <al00> |joe| Ati RAdeon 800XT GTO (PCIe)
[09:53] <visitor> john flux do u have a myspace?
[09:53] <JohnFlux_> visitor: no
[09:53] <dimsuz> JohnFlux_: Thanks!
[09:53] <visitor> why not?
[09:53] <JohnFlux_> dimsuz: hmm not useful though
[09:53] <JohnFlux_> dimsuz: wait
[09:53] <markelhas> JohnFlux_: i need now to discover why can't i brower de desktop from any pc
[09:53] <dimsuz> ubotu: find Xlib.h
[09:53] <|joe|> al00: well i'm afraid i can't help .... never had ati :)
[09:53] <ubotu> File xlib.h found in graphviz-dev, kvirc-dev, libax25-dev, libcairo2-dev, libcegui-mk2-dev (and 7 others)
[09:53] <dimsuz> JohnFlux_: becase of wrong name ;)
[09:53] <visitor> does anyone in here have a myspace?
[09:54] <dimsuz> JohnFlux_: hmm. so it's case insensitive
[09:54] <JohnFlux_> dimsuz: try xlibs-dev
[09:54] <al00> |joe|: Thanks for trying
[09:54] <JohnFlux_> dimsuz: or libx11-dev
[09:54] <zerak> |joe| not really sure what you mean by try it out since i dont see/hear any diffrence
[09:54] <Nuked> anyone here know anything about beryl?
[09:54] <lipe> do u have this file to send to me??
[09:54] <dimsuz> JohnFlux_: ok. I'll try. Thanks!
[09:54] <JohnFlux_> Nuked: I'm sitting next to the berly developers
[09:55] <JohnFlux_> Nuked: does that cout?
[09:55] <JohnFlux_> count
[09:55] <Nuked> JohnFlux absolutely
[09:55] <|joe|> zerak: you have to try now aplay -D dout
[09:55] <lipe> JohnFlux_: do u have this file to send to me, please??
[09:55] <Nuked> I installed beryl from berrokid;s repositories, but when I run beryl, there is no window border
[09:55] <JohnFlux_> lipe: i don't have it.  you will have to download and compile it yourself.  but I still don't understand why you want it.
[09:56] <|joe|> zerak: if you can hear sound you should be able to run more aplay's with -D dout in parallel
[09:56] <zerak> |joe| "$ aplay -D dout /usr/share/sounds/pop.wav"
[09:56] <zerak> |joe| ALSA lib pcm.c:2146:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM dout
[09:56] <zerak> |joe| aplay: main:547: audio open error: No such file or directory
[09:56] <zerak> |joe| justt as before
[09:56] <lipe> thanks
[09:56] <JohnFlux_> Nuked: possibly berly isn't running
[09:57] <JohnFlux_> Nuked: it crashed etc
[09:57] <|joe|> zerak: are you sure you have the ~/.asoundrc, it's saved
[09:57] <JohnFlux_> Nuked: so you don't have borders because you have no window manager
[09:57] <JohnFlux_> Nuked: btw beryl will be included with the next release of ubuntu
[09:57] <Nuked> I guess. If I stop beryl and run metacity everything goes back to normal
[09:58] <JohnFlux_> Nuked: right
[09:58] <Lamington> hey all
[09:58] <|joe|> zerak: hmmm maybe plug:dout ? not sure :)
[09:58] <JohnFlux_> Nuked: possibly you just don't have direct rendering
[09:58] <JohnFlux_> Nuked: do  glxinfo | grep Direct
[09:58] <Lamington> I installed anon-proxy but I dunno how to get it to work with konqueror
[09:58] <|joe|> zerak: you can check aplay -L it should list the dout device
[09:58] <JohnFlux_> Nuked: do  glxinfo | grep direct
[09:58] <JohnFlux_> Nuked: rather
[09:59] <Nuked> libGL warning: 3D driver claims to not support visual 0x5b
[09:59] <Nuked> direct rendering: Yes
[09:59] <JohnFlux_> Nuked: should work then
[09:59] <Lamington> I've got konqueror set to "automatically detecty proxy configuration"
[09:59] <Nuked> so all I do is run beryl and the border should show up?
[10:01] <JohnFlux_> Lamington: not sure that will work
[10:01] <Lamington> JohnFlux_: yeah I'm kinda learning stuff as I go...
[10:02] <gnomefreak> Nuked: in beryl sometimes the window borders dont show up. if you change the theme using emerald it will show the border with new theme.
[10:03] <Nuked> gnomefreak ill try it
[10:03] <Nuked> gnomefreak I just doubleclick on a theme?
[10:03] <gnomefreak> Nuked: yep should work that way
[10:03] <|joe|> anyone has an idea what's the difference between kdDebug and kndDebug?
[10:04] <gnomefreak> Nuked: i think single click would do it also but i double click just to be sure
[10:04] <Nuked> AHAHAHA IT WORKS
[10:04] <Nuked> MUAHAHAH
[10:04] <gnomefreak> ;)
[10:04] <Nuked> gnomefreak, I owe you a beer
[10:04] <Nuked> now just one more thing
[10:05] <|joe|> fyi the diff is that kndDebug does nothing :)
[10:05] <Nuked> how do I do the whole cube thing?
[10:05] <gnomefreak> Nuked: ctrl+alt+arrow
[10:05] <zerak> |joe| i am slow but should :       pcm "hw:0"       be pcm "hw:1" ?
[10:05] <|joe|> zerak: yes
[10:06] <lipe> some save me... superman... i need libelf.so.1
[10:06] <JohnFlux_> lipe: dude
[10:06] <Nuked> gnomefreak that switches me to the next desktop. is there a way I can make it pause between both?
[10:07] <gnomefreak> Nuked: not that i have found
[10:07] <JohnFlux_> lipe: If you were a coder then you'd be able to download and compile it
[10:07] <JohnFlux_> lipe: If you aren't a coder, then I can't see why you'd want it
[10:07] <gnomefreak> Nuked: if you use up or down arrows it gives you the beryl cube :)
[10:08] <Nuked> LMAO yeah this is pretty cool. Will this beryl work with dr17?
[10:08] <intelikey> lipe edgy ?
[10:08] <JohnFlux_> lipe: you could try doing  cp /usr/lib/libelf.so.0 /usr/lib/libelf.so.1
[10:08] <JohnFlux_> lipe: but i wouldn't recommend it ;-)
[10:08] <trappist> lipe: the systemtap package contains /usr/lib/systemtap/libelf.so.1
[10:09] <Nuked> Ill be right back
[10:09] <zerak> |joe| removed duplicate but i think it is correct, get a message that say that my file is old or corrupt
[10:09] <intelikey> johnflux a symlink maybe ....   but it does beg trubble
[10:11] <|joe|> zerak: try to remove the !default and ctl stuff
[10:11] <|joe|> zerak: but first check if you didn't forget some {}
[10:11] <reagleBRKLN> what to do to get konq 3.5.5 to work with new dell storefront?
[10:12] <intelikey> !flash
[10:12] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:12] <intelikey> is it flash ?
[10:13] <erdballer> hallo
[10:13] <zerak> |joe| what about changing       pcm "hw:1"      to     pcm "hw:1,0"
[10:13] <|joe|> zerak: can try
[10:13] <erdballer> ich habe eine problem: ein paar anwendungen mit synaptics installiert, fehlermeldungen (red-hat-paket??) und jetzt komm ich nicht mehr automatisch in X
[10:14] <erdballer> wie kann ich vergangene installationen einfach rckgngig machen?
[10:14] <erdballer> edgy
[10:15] <knapp> Anyone know why D4X would complete a 2.3gig file and then write it to disk as 0 bytes. ?
[10:15] <thingy> erdballer: /join #kubuntu-de
[10:15] <erdballer> thingy - warum kubuntu?
[10:16] <erdballer> oh ah
[10:16] <erdballer> sorry
[10:16] <intelikey> i want to export BLAH='something'   from a script and pick it up in the shell that called the script.    can it be done ?
[10:16] <erdballer> strange :) but thanks
[10:16] <thingy> erdballer: Ich spreche nicht Deutsches. Versuch, der innen bittet #kubuntu-de
[10:16] <thingy> ooh  dang it!
[10:17] <thingy> stupid google translate took too long to give me the german equiv of "I don't speak german...try kubuntu-de"
[10:18] <thingy> intelikey: export BLAH=blah blah
[10:18] <thingy> intelikey: does that work?
[10:19] <intelikey> thingy not the way you wrote it...  :)
[10:19] <intelikey> but no if it was a simple export i would have alread had it.
[10:19] <thingy> intelikey: I thought the export command mean't that it would stick in the running shell and not just in the running exec of the shell
[10:19] <thingy> intelikey: ah
[10:19] <thingy> intelikey: what about the set command ?
[10:20] <zerak> |joe| doesnt like my     "slave { "    since it complaines about the first letter on the next lines pcm "hw:1" and if # it takes the next
[10:20] <intelikey> it seems like the shell starts a new shell to run the script in and then when the script ends the shell exits  thus you loose all settings....
[10:21] <|joe|> zerak: and it says the .asoundrc is wrong??
[10:21] <intelikey> i suspose i could have the script end with  bash &    .....
[10:21] <zerak> |joe| old or corrupted, (it complains at a certain lina and column as mention before). Sry for my bad language in IRC, too fast for my own brain
[10:22] <trappist> intelikey: nohup scriptname
[10:22] <|joe|> zerak: i understand i just don't get it :)
[10:23] <intelikey> trappist looking.
[10:23] <zerak> |joe| it feels bad since this isnt suppose to be needed according to alsa
[10:24] <|joe|> zerak: well in many cases it unfortunately still is
[10:24] <|joe|> zerak: keyword "skype" :)
[10:24] <|joe|> zerak: maybe dmix has some params that specify the soundcard
[10:24] <intelikey> trappist no.  that redirects the output and also when the script exits the env is unchanged...
[10:24] <zerak> |joe| dont got skype yet (living in the stone age)
[10:25] <zerak> |joe| there must be a easy way since this is a very common card
[10:25] <|joe|> zerak: well i don't use it that much but i had to set it up
[10:25] <zerak> |joe| even though my is integrated
[10:25] <intelikey> it seems you can't even affect a   cd /path   from a script that will stick.
[10:25] <|joe|> zerak: on my sb live no prob but on onelaptopn .. well it wasn't officially supported i had to hack support into alsa for it
[10:25] <zerak> |joe| *mine ... =P
[10:26] <|joe|> zerak: but the .asoundrc to get skype working was pure black magic
[10:27] <zerak> |joe| cant one change the order it loads the modules, soundcard first then tv-card but how on earth am i suppose to do if i want to use tv-card too... =)
[10:28] <fannagoganna> yes, that's the problem with sound on Linux :)
[10:28] <fannagoganna> it's still voodoo
[10:28] <|joe|> zerak: i don't know how to change the order
[10:28] <|joe|> zerak: do you see any dmix in aplay -L ?
[10:28] <fannagoganna> the ALSA wiki page is horribly out of date
[10:28] <|joe|> zerak: or possibly more dmixes
[10:29] <fannagoganna> I could give you my dmix, but I couldn't even tell you why it works the way it does
[10:29] <|joe|> fannagoganna: you have an idea how the dmix gets configured if the sc is #1 and not #0 ?
[10:29] <fannagoganna> yeah, you need a capture entry
[10:29] <fannagoganna> for me it is card 1, device 0
[10:30] <|joe|> fannagoganna: but they say dmix gets configured automatically
[10:30] <|joe|> fannagoganna: i just wonder if that's true even in the case the sc is #1
[10:31] <|joe|> zerak: maybe you can give http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/asoundrc.php#softmix a shot, there's already hw:1,0 ;)
[10:31] <fannagoganna> so here is what I have -- I have in my asoundrc file the following device,
[10:31] <fannagoganna> capture {
[10:31] <fannagoganna>   type hw
[10:31] <fannagoganna>   card 1
[10:31] <fannagoganna>   device 0
[10:31] <fannagoganna> sorry, forgot the last bracket
[10:31] <|joe|> well we want playback :)
[10:31] <fannagoganna> do you want my asoundrc file?
[10:32] <|joe|> zerak: omg maybe i found it
[10:32] <|joe|> zerak: aplay -Dplug:\'dmix:SLAVE=\"hw:1,0\",RATE=44100\' test.wav
[10:32] <fannagoganna> that's a way to test it for sure
[10:32] <|joe|> zerak: seems you can tell dmix to use your sc #1
[10:33] <zerak> |joe| Unknown parameter SLAVE
[10:33] <|joe|> lol
[10:33] <zerak> |joe| answere to the old question why that didnt work
[10:33] <zerak> |joe| failed after slave there too
[10:34] <|joe|> zerak: honestly i don't know
[10:34] <thingy> intelikey: yeah it looks like children cannot affect a parent's environment
[10:34] <zerak> |joe| thanks, you did at least took your time, long time
[10:34] <intelikey> thingy that's not what i want to hear.....
[10:34] <intelikey> ;/
[10:35] <|joe|> zerak: you're welcome ... just keep trying a little, you'll make it :)
[10:35] <zerak> |joe| thank you for everything
[10:35] <|joe|> zerak: see the sound generally works you just need to set up the dmix
[10:35] <zerak> |joe| i like dreams... =)
[10:35] <zerak> |joe| going to try changing autoload.d
[10:36] <intelikey> ok i'm used to using runtime configuration files anyway...   but i hate to add another one that may get altered regularly......
[10:36] <thingy> intelikey: ok how about this: http://ask.metafilter.com/mefi/35918
[10:36] <zerak> |lacerta| works without tv-card wont work with
[10:36] <|joe|> zerak: you could use it even wout dmix but then you could always use only one sound app at a time
[10:37] <intelikey> Lacerta looking for a script to set a variable that the shell can reuse the next time it calls the script.
[10:38] <thingy> intelikey: did you read that url? how about exec your_script from inside your script...
[10:38] <zerak> |joe| but then kde sound test should work, it doesnt
[10:38] <thingy> intelikey: sounds scary that!
[10:38] <|joe|> zerak: you may need to specify the alsa as output and plughw:1,0 as the device in the config
[10:39] <thingy> umm...did Everyone just get spammed by Lacerta askign what the problem is?
[10:39] <|joe|> zerak: it's on the hardware tab
[10:39] <|joe|> well i did
[10:39] <intelikey> yeah but sourcing is not really a good idea in this case   errors may cause a   exit 2    which will kill the shell
[10:39] <|joe|> but couldn't answer
[10:39] <thingy> I think he did it at the same time to everyone
[10:39] <zerak> |joe| dont know how to do that, but i am going to try chaning order, do u know where "autoload.d" is in ubuntu / kubuntu
[10:40] <|joe|> zerak: in kde sound system, tab hardware
[10:40] <|joe|> zerak: know nothing about autoload
[10:40] <intelikey> thingy yes got msg'd
[10:41] <intelikey> was probably a /msg #kubuntu blah
[10:41] <nroberts> hi i need help installing rpm files
[10:41] <intelikey> nroberts don't
[10:41] <nroberts> dont what.
[10:41] <intelikey> use a ubuntu .deb file.
[10:41] <zerak> |joe| thanks, some sound at least
[10:42] <thingy> intelikey: i thought they don't allow that
[10:42] <intelikey> nroberts what .rpm you looking at ?
[10:42] <zerak> |joe| but if i start running several mp3 it wont work ? =)
[10:42] <nroberts> limewirelinux.rpm
[10:42] <|joe|> zerak: exactly, that's where you need dmix :)
[10:42] <|joe|> zerak: that was actually the reason i bought sb live
[10:42] <intelikey> thingy if not it's a script.  either way  pfft.
[10:43] <intelikey> !limewire
[10:43] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[10:43] <intelikey> !FrostWire
[10:43] <ubotu> frostwire is a totally open source version of Limewire.  For installation help, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FrostWire
[10:43] <intelikey> nroberts see the links. ^
[10:43] <nroberts> yes
[10:44] <intelikey> k make your life easy if you want.    but don't make ours hard :)
[10:44] <thingy> intelikey: well this is just explaining why setting environ vars from a script won't work. http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2005-05/msg01011.html
[10:44] <zerak> |joe| maybe a fix in next release if one is lucky, however i found that menu irritating, sometimes it reloads several times
[10:45] <intelikey> cygwin  heh
[10:45] <|joe|> zennix: what menu
[10:45] <|joe|> zerak: what menu
[10:45] <|joe|> $#@$@ tab
[10:45] <zerak> |joe| kde sound  system
[10:45] <zerak> |joe| if you apply settings it reloads
[10:46] <|joe|> zerak: gotta set once and don't touch for the rest of your life
[10:46] <thingy> zerak: are you trying to setup dmix with alsa?
[10:46] <zerak> |joe| sometimes it get stuck, sometimes it reloads forever, sometimes it instantly work
[10:46] <|joe|> thingy: :)
[10:46] <zerak> thingy tried
[10:46] <|joe|> thingy: we can play sound via plughw:1,0
[10:46] <intelikey> thingy yeah...   </grumbles> "i'll find some way"
[10:46] <thingy> zerak: Gentoo has a nice doc on it...its applicable somewhat... http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ALSA_sound_mixer_aka_dmix
[10:46] <|joe|> thingy: but setting up dmix for this seems to be not so straightforward :)
[10:47] <thingy> zerak: haven't gotten around to doing it on my box yet
[10:47] <zerak> thingy same problem as me then?
[10:47] <thingy> zerak: no...not even started on it.
[10:47] <|joe|> zerak: i suggest you're be happy today with plughw and try the dmix tomorrow :)
[10:48] <Acc\Deny> hi anyone with experience of installing on intel 845 board?
[10:49] <Acc\Deny> I am experiencing a small problem even with text-mode install!
[10:49] <thingy> which is?
[10:49] <Acc\Deny> Hi. I m trying to Install Dapper on text mode using alternate install CD. During the final stage(s) of installation... there was nothing on screen so i just pressed enter 2/3 times... after a while the cd tray opens and the system restarted with GRUB menu... I selected Ubuntu but now it has some block size errors on /boot.
[10:49] <zerak> |joe| what if i move snd-ca0106 up, below psmouse in loading
[10:49] <|joe|> zerak: where is it?
[10:49] <Acc\Deny> I was also hoping i would be prompted some where to configure grub...
[10:49] <zerak> vi /etc/modules
[10:50] <zerak> |joe| vi /etc/modules
[10:50] <josh__> my linux partition doesnt show up in storage media! only my windows one is visible
[10:50] <Acc\Deny> but that didn't happen
[10:50] <|joe|> zerak: well if you have it there listed, try it
[10:50] <|joe|> zerak: i don't have mine
[10:50] <thingy> Acc\Deny: boot from the cd again and choose to boot the rescue system. it will ask you all the intial questions and then give you the option to re-install grub
[10:50] <josh__> can someone tell me why?
[10:51] <zerak> |joe| lp  psmouse  sbp2  sr_mod  snd-ca0106
[10:51] <Hawkwind> !hidden | josh__
[10:51] <ubotu> josh__: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[10:51] <Acc\Deny> thingy: ok... and these block errors i am getting about the /boot?
[10:51] <|joe|> zerak: but do you see your tv tuner there as well?
[10:51] <thingy> Acc\Deny: am not sure what that is...when do you get the message? Does the kernel boot at all? does it get as far as starting init ?
[10:51] <Acc\Deny> i have prepared a separate partition for /boot with the 1024 limit...
[10:52] <lucky_> #kubuntu-offtopic
[10:52] <Acc\Deny> yes it does start init.... stops and tells me to repait it manually with a different block size... as it has detected some corruption...
[10:52] <josh__> what the hell
[10:52] <josh__> why
[10:53] <Acc\Deny> repair*.... tried dmesg but that specific error is somehow not logged into wherever dmesg stores stuff....
[10:53] <intelikey> oooo fs errors...
[10:53] <thingy> Acc\Deny: ??? odd. What's your part scheme look like
[10:53] <zerak> |joe|  no you are right, not there
[10:54] <intelikey> does partition table affect block size ?
[10:54] <|joe|> zerak: i'd go the dmix way, once i was trying to fight with the order and gave up
[10:54] <thingy> intelikey: nope...but just want to know how hes partitioned
[10:54] <|joe|> zerak: but if you'll find a way let me know :)
[10:54] <zerak> |joe| think i surrender, at least for the moment
[10:54] <thingy> intelikey: sounds like hes installed grub somewhere else since he blindly pressed enter during grub install
[10:55] <|joe|> zerak: it's not like surrendering, it's just making a pause ;-)
[10:55] <intelikey> yeah possably thingy;  i'll stay out of that, i'm a lilo guy.   can't use grub here.
[10:56] <trappist> intelikey: xfs?
[10:57] <intelikey> no ext2
[10:57] <trappist> why can't you use grub?
[10:57] <intelikey> but on sda
[10:57] <trappist> <-- former lilo guy
[10:57] <trappist> oh
[10:57] <thingy> intelikey: why not ext3?
[10:57] <Acc\Deny> thingy: sorry was checking it... it is 4G+100M+20G+2G+20G+15G+10G+4.5G
[10:58] <Acc\Deny> 2nd is for /boot and linux goes on last one... last one being divided into a / and a swap.
[10:58] <zerak> |joe| to bad they dont got as extensive documentation as gentoo, not the same filenames either
[10:58] <thingy> Acc\Deny: so 100mb =/ boot and 4.5gb = / ?
[10:58] <Acc\Deny> thingy: yup
[10:59] <thingy> Acc\Deny: just to confirm..this is one hdd right? ide/sata/scsi?
[10:59] <|joe|> zerak: well in gentoo you have to do everything by hand, in kubuntu things are supposed to work i'd say
[10:59] <Acc\Deny> thingy: ide 80GB
[10:59] <intelikey> thingy i've never seen any need for the journal on my system  and ext2 does allow for recovering deleted files.... not that i've done that but one time....   but i'm  a minimalist   why have things you don't need      like partitions and journals...
[10:59] <|joe|> zerak: did you use gentoo before?
[11:00] <thingy> intelikey: well in that case...you should make sure you have noted down the output from your mke2fs regarding the superblock positions...since you will need those in the future if fs goes borked.
[11:00] <zerak> |joe| no but a friend who do (no he wont come within 30 feets from a computer with ubuntu or a fork)
[11:00] <Acc\Deny> |joe|: do u know of a distro which does not ask me to compile everything but is also as flexible as gentoo :) ? i mean someway in between?
[11:00] <|joe|> no
[11:01] <intelikey> thingy yeah.  they are at binarry eqs so it's easy.
[11:01] <|joe|> but i used gentoo before and consider personally kubuntu better :)
[11:01] <Acc\Deny> thingy: what really irritates me is a lost display at the end...
[11:01] <intelikey> thingy one at 16384 another at 32768 ...
[11:01] <Acc\Deny> |joe|: can i ask why?
[11:02] <thingy> Acc\Deny: At the end of the install it doesn't do anything other than launch the grub install util...and i don't know why it blanked on you.
[11:02] <thingy> intelikey: thats handy
[11:02] <intelikey> yep.....
[11:02] <Acc\Deny> thingy: hmm.... how ironic...
[11:02] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: well more reasons - wanted to try something debian-like (used suse, mdk before)
[11:02] <thingy> Acc\Deny: any chance on getting the actual error message you see when you boot...i need the exact message to google around with
[11:03] <trappist> intelikey: journals are basically nice for when you lose power and want to have a non-screwed fs afterward
[11:03] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: and then the compiling ... i've only 2.4celeron
[11:03] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: you start optimizing things by changing USE flags
[11:03] <trappist> my resierfs journal has saved my butt more than once
[11:03] <Acc\Deny> thingy: Help me.. I only know of dmesg...
[11:03] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: then after 6 months you either buy some hw or want to try something which requires to change USE flags
[11:04] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: and you sit there waiting days to get your hw to work because you need to recompile whole bunch of stuff
[11:04] <Acc\Deny> |joe|: how much time one needs to learn USE flags?
[11:04] <intelikey> trappist yeah i know the point of the journal  but  i have actually had more trubble with them than without...   some have other experances i know.
[11:04] <Acc\Deny> |joe|: ok ok got u now...
[11:04] <cgeo> guys
[11:04] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: well it's not a problem to know which flags you need, it's the recompile then
[11:04] <cgeo> my taskbar just disapeared!!
[11:04] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: another prob
[11:05] <thingy> Acc\Deny: Is installing ubuntu again an option...if so then see http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=235188&highlight=intel+845
[11:05] <Acc\Deny> thingy: Anything more powerful than dmesg?
[11:05] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: you want say some prog you never had before, eg irc client, so you start trying .... till you'll able to run all of them, you lost 2-3 days
[11:05] <Acc\Deny> thingy: opening link now.
[11:05] <cgeo> how can i bring back the taskbar>??
[11:05] <Acc\Deny> |joe|: I have never been able to understand the "(re)compile from scratch philosophy"
[11:05] <thingy> Acc\Deny: I assume you have an ATI rage pci card in the server?
[11:05] <zerak> |joe| not alone at least:     My system detects the TV card before the sound card as an alsa device. This makes the TV card the default sound card which results in no sound and causes many alsa utilites to fail.
[11:05] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: and after you run them, you choose one and throw the rest away, how nice
[11:06] <thingy> cgeo: kicker
[11:06] <thingy> cgeo: oh wait you meant taskbar or the panel?
[11:06] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: well in comparison to mdk/suse i had the feeling it was a bit faster
[11:07] <trappist> zerak: asoundconf list; asoundconf set-default-card [item from list] 
[11:07] <cgeo> thingy:well not sure. when i type kicker it says kicker is already running
[11:07] <cgeo> probably its the panel
[11:07] <Acc\Deny> thingy: I have an intel 845 board with the integrated AGP. this board is among the famous-few who give linux users a difficult time when it comes to Xorg...
[11:07] <intelikey> Acc\Deny iirc there is a dir /var/log/install/  that should have a log of the instalation which might be worth cat'ing    also /var/log/{system,dmesg,klog}
[11:08] <thingy> zerak: you can control which device is sound-device-0 and sound-device-1 via alias commands in the /etc/modutils/alsa file
[11:08] <zerak> trappist THANKS
[11:08] <Acc\Deny> intelikey: thankx
[11:08] <thingy> zerak: example --> alias snd-card-0 snd-ca0106
[11:08] <Acc\Deny> |joe|:  I dunno me and my colleaugue keep fighting over gentoo :) he is a gentoo zealot.
[11:08] <Acc\Deny> thingy: let me read that link and get back...
[11:08] <zerak> there is no alsa file there, looked after it but i think trappist might resolved the problem
[11:08] <j-swim> hey folks, i installed kubuntu-desktop and all it's deps on ubuntu, and would like to now remove kubuntu-desktop and everything that came with it, is there a way I can select all of those deps at once?
[11:09] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: well i knew a few as well
[11:09] <zerak> thingy there is no alsa file there, looked after it but i think trappist might resolved the problem
[11:09] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: he wanted to put that thing on a kinda critical server
[11:09] <Acc\Deny> back.
[11:09] <richee_> hi, trying to get knetwork manager to auto connect using wpa and kwallet,  anyone help please
[11:09] <|joe|> Acc\Deny: i just couldn't understand the advantages it'd have e.g against debian
[11:10] <Acc\Deny> |joe|:  I wouldn't like to have such a guy on my team :)
[11:10] <zerak> trappist do i need to save it manually like they say in gentoo manual or will it save auto when issuing that command ?
[11:10] <zerak> trappist thank you again
[11:10] <cgeo> anybody has any idea how to bring back the panel???what's the relevant command??
[11:10] <Acc\Deny> thingy: I m aware of the 915resolution package... for intel's integrated boards... for xorg...
[11:11] <intelikey> Acc\Deny not advising you to do so  but  if i installed and was getting block size error messages.  i think i would consider doing a "badblocks && mkfs" reinstalling there.....     i hate fs errors...   they don't seem to go away; they just move into areas that really give fits.
[11:11] <|joe|> cgeo: tried kicker ?
[11:11] <cgeo> yeah it says kicker already running
[11:11] <|joe|> i hate to say it but i lost one file today on xfs
[11:12] <|joe|> and xfs_check said everything ok
[11:12] <cgeo> thingy:cannot speak in private.it says i have to register r smth
[11:12] <thingy> cgeo: ah ok
[11:12] <Acc\Deny> thingy: intelikey: I guess i should 1. reintall 2. if 1 fails get rid of ubuntu ASAP before it damages something more... ?
[11:12] <thingy> cgeo: can you see the kde icon on the panel?
[11:12] <cgeo> thingy:nope nothing
[11:12] <richee_> anyone help me getting knetwork manager to auto connect.  trying with kwallet but network manager always asks for a password.  kwallet has no password
[11:13] <zerak> trappis will it save the info automatic?
[11:13] <thingy> cgeo: try "killall kicker;kicker"
[11:13] <intelikey> Acc\Deny if you reinstall (again i'm not telling you to, but if you do)  and it blanks on you.   try switching ttys   [alt] +[f3]    and back.   also an error log should be in either f3 or f4     errr tty3 or tty4 that is.
[11:13] <Acc\Deny> thingy: intelikey: does ubuntu have any cheat-codes like Knoppix so that i could force it to use a very generic display driver?
[11:14] <Acc\Deny> intelikey: hmmm ok!
[11:15] <trappist> Acc\Deny: you might also try vga=normal as a boot option (I think that's what knoppix calls a cheat code)
[11:15] <intelikey> Acc\Deny also in textmode install  you could boot with    vga=0x0f05    that's a very safe setting.  not frame buffered 80x30
[11:15] <Acc\Deny> trappist: yup cheat-codes = extra options at the boot: prompt...
[11:15] <intelikey> Acc\Deny yes hit f1 at the boot prompt
[11:16] <jhutchins_wk> They're more properly known as kernel options.
[11:16] <Acc\Deny> intelikey: ok
[11:16] <Acc\Deny> jhutchins_wk: thats what i thought but in Knoppix terminology they become cheat-codes! :/
[11:16] <intelikey> lol
[11:17] <trappist> I do sorta like the cheat codes nomenclature :)
[11:17] <intelikey> as long as they are not automatic, i'm ok with'em
[11:17] <Acc\Deny> it was an amusing+distrubing term for me too in the start
[11:17] <trappist> oh yeah, 'single' :)
[11:18] <intelikey> nope   init=/bin/sh
[11:18] <intelikey> :)
[11:18] <trappist> intelikey: I think it does pretty much the same thing
[11:18] <intelikey> not really.
[11:18] <trappist> they should both drop you to a root prompt
[11:18] <intelikey> with single you are root.   with init= you are init.
[11:18] <trappist> ah.
[11:19] <trappist> <3 single
[11:19] <intelikey> init     litterally the system controler.
[11:19] <intelikey> :)
[11:19] <ubuntu_> n00b Test pls dnt rlpy
[11:19] <Acc\Deny> umm   single   is a cheat-code?
[11:20] <intelikey> it worked.  you're a n00b.
[11:20] <trappist> Acc\Deny: yes.  as in 'single user mode'.
[11:20] <ubuntu_> Thnx
[11:20] <Acc\Deny> i thought init 1 was for that?!
[11:20] <Acc\Deny> like linux 1
[11:20] <h3sp4wn> 1 would be the knoppix cheatcode for that
[11:20] <intelikey> just 1
[11:20] <morla> is there any need for lib64stdc++6 on a 32 bit athlon system? aptitude wants to install it, but i don't see why i would need it
[11:20] <trappist> morla: I can't imagine what good it would do.  what wants it?
[11:21] <intelikey> but if     1   == cheatcode    what is     init=/bin/sh  ?
[11:22] <morla> trappist: well aptitude has these packages with some other dependencies on it's to-be-installed list. I'd get rid of them, but I thought i'd ask first
[11:22] <trappist> morla: apt-cache rdepends lib64stdc++6
[11:22] <zerak> thingy just wondering about Quote "/etc/modutils/alsa file" i dont got any alsa files there
[11:22] <Acc\Deny> thank you guyz... i gtg and do a reinstall soon based on your help...
[11:22] <trappist> morla: I'd try it here, but all I have are amd64 boxen :)
[11:22] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: standard thing to do is init=/bin/sh
[11:23] <intelikey> which leads me to another Q;   in edgy is it    init=/bin/sh    or  upstart=/bin/sh      ?
[11:24] <h3sp4wn> I would expect the first but haven't tried it
[11:24] <morla> trappist: so far it works without, I just don't want to run into obscure compiliong issues someday.. would it hurt if I just installed them?
[11:24] <trappist> morla: nope
[11:24] <intelikey> h3sp4wn you do know that edgy isn't using init ?
[11:24] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: Yeah but due to my experiences with it - I doubt they went to that length
[11:25] <morla> trappist: ok then, it's just a few kilobytes.. thanks
[11:25] <intelikey> sed 's/init/upstart/g' edgy
[11:25] <intelikey> prolly right.
[11:25] <h3sp4wn> I am using file-rc at the moment (nice and clean)
[11:25] <h3sp4wn> or is it rc-file
[11:26] <thingy> zerak: do you want me to priv msg the one i have...its small
[11:27] <intelikey> i had to look   file-rc - Alternative boot mechanism using a single configuration file   i have used it before  but forgot
[11:27] <|joe|> thingy: say you can control the order of the sc?
[11:27] <|joe|> thingy: ie which card is hw:0, hw:1 and so on?
[11:27] <zerak> thingy but if it isnt any there then should i really add one? Seems to work the think trappist said in all app but Quake4
[11:28] <thingy> |joe|: you can control the order via dictating what order the modules are loaded and you can tell alsa which card should be sound card 0 with the modulutils directory
[11:28] <intelikey> h3sp4wn and i've writen my own init.... basicly it's anything to start and stop processes.   beginning at inittab  for the sysvinit system
[11:29] <|joe|> thingy: but with the modutils do you change actually what? the order of the modules get loaded in or only defines the sc numbers?
[11:29] <thingy> |joe|: priv msg ok? need to paste the output of the file to explaimn
[11:29] <|joe|> thingy: ok but only one-way :)
[11:29] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: I just like it to be simple - written your own init as a replacement for /sbin/init ?
[11:30] <Hawkwind> Paste it to http://pastebin.ulteo.us instead of flooding someone in pm even
[11:30] <intelikey> h3sp4wn yeah.
[11:30] <|joe|> zerak: is dmix working with the asoundconf ?
[11:30] <superkirbyartist> Tell the Ubuntu ppl to unban me.
[11:31] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: How do you deal with the part of init which inherits zombie processes ?
[11:31] <zerak> |joe| most things work except Quake4 (tried vlc, kde, flash)
[11:31] <intelikey> heh i didn't.    i never said it was production quality.
[11:32] <thingy> |joe|: in the  priv msg...you can see that my snd-card-0 is a ca106 device and I add mode aliases like that telling it what the other sound cards are
[11:32] <superkirbyartist> Can you tell #ubuntu to unban me please?
[11:33] <|joe|> thingy: hmmmm kind of dejavu, was it always in /etc/modutils?
[11:33] <zerak> thingy do we need that config file, will dmix work with it
[11:33] <thingy> |joe|: yes...it was commentd out however...i had to add my sound card in it and uncomment the lines
[11:34] <thingy> zerak: I havent gotten around to setting up dmix...but i only mentioned the file to answer your question about how to tell alsa which card = 0 and which = 1 etc
[11:34] <|joe|> i'm happy persion not having to take care of stuff like that :)
[11:34] <zerak> think it worked out with asoundconf most apps seems to work but not Quake4
[11:34] <tobre> Hello!
[11:35] <drakan2> Hi
[11:35] <drakan2> O_o
[11:35] <|joe|> thingy: when talking about order, something off-alsa-topic - any idea what defines the order of /dev/input devices?
[11:35] <|joe|> thingy: i have keyb, mouse, ir and joystick
[11:35] <|joe|> thingy: and sometimes the joy and ir get exchanged and my lircd goes crazy
[11:35] <tobre> Ok, I have a very strange problem.
[11:35] <thingy> |joe|: ooh good question...i only ever had 1 input device so never encountered the issue
[11:36] <thingy> |joe|: holy cow! :-)
[11:36] <|joe|> thingy: it never happened in dapper
[11:36] <intelikey> so what has "superkirbyartist"  done to warent that ?
[11:36] <tobre> Wav files doesn't work, all sound is working normally.:S
[11:37] <|joe|> thingy: the best thing is i have klirc autostart at startup; if occasionaly mouse becomes the "lircd" device, i get 100% cpu and cannot move the mouse, cause lircd eats the events :)
[11:37] <intelikey> tobre you can't play  .wav ???
[11:37] <tobre> Yes.
[11:37] <intelikey> yes can or can't ?
[11:38] <tobre> Yes can't.
[11:38] <|joe|> lol
[11:38] <tobre> Ogg files and CD-s and so one. Works just fine.
[11:38] <intelikey> install sox  ?
[11:38] <tobre> I'm running Kubuntu.
[11:39] <markelhas0> hey everyone, what should i do to get normal ddl speed with ktorrent!?
[11:39] <intelikey> type in a konsole;  play /path/to/file.wav
[11:39] <|joe|> markelhas: i didn't do anything and i get normal dl speeds :)
[11:39] <zerak> share? =P
[11:39] <tobre> play: command not found
[11:40] <tobre> I have missing something?
 install sox
 type in a konsole;  play /path/to/file.wav
[11:40] <thingy> |joe|: regarding your input devices question...it seems that the order is determined by udev...see http://www.oclug.on.ca/archives/oclug/2005-October/047932.html
[11:40] <markelhas0> |joe|: i've installed kubuntu on my desktop but speed on torrent is very slow
[11:40] <tobre> OK, I'll try
[11:41] <thingy> |joe|: guess you will need figure out how to refer to the device specificaly and write a udev rule for it...i think
[11:41] <intelikey> .wav format is not restricted.  so i'm thinking it's the file  not the player  but the cli play (sox) will prove/disprove that.
[11:41] <tobre> Sox is not in my apt-get list.
[11:41] <|joe|> markelhas0: only on torrent?
[11:41] <markelhas0> |joe|: ypas
[11:42] <intelikey> !sox
[11:42] <ubotu> sox: A universal sound sample translator. In component universe, is optional. Version 12.17.9-1 (edgy), package size 285 kB, installed size 656 kB
[11:42] <intelikey>  In component universe,
[11:42] <intelikey> !sound
[11:42] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[11:42] <intelikey> maybe you should see that  ^
[11:42] <markelhas0> |joe|: 0.1 0.5 ddl speed
[11:42] <tobre> Ok, thanks...
[11:42] <|joe|> markelhas0: have you tried another client eg azureus?
[11:43] <intelikey> tobre  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems  in particular.
[11:43] <|joe|> thingy: thnx, i'll see .... my devices are btw always plugged
[11:43] <markelhas0> |joe|: nop
[11:43] <intelikey> i have to go for a bit.  maybe back in an hour or so.  maybe not till monday.....
[11:44] <|joe|> markelhas0: i'd try it out, maybe it's just the torrent that is slow
[11:44] <intelikey> !vlc | tobre
[11:44] <ubotu> tobre: Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs
[11:44] <markelhas0> |joe|: humm with windows i had normal ddl speed, i don't know  what's the problem
[11:44] <intelikey> !codecs | tobre
[11:44] <|joe|> markelhas0: with the same torrent?
[11:44] <ubotu> tobre: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[11:44] <markelhas0> |joe|: i don't think the problem is on the client
[11:45] <markelhas0> |joe|: the same one
[11:45] <intelikey> tobre that's enough to get ya going... :)
[11:45] <|joe|> markelhas0: well i cannot complain i get up to 200kb/s on adsl2000
[11:45] <markelhas0> |joe|: i've peer's but all of them 0.0 kb/s
[11:45] <|joe|> markelhas0: do you use edgy/dapper?
[11:45] <markelhas0> |joe|: can u help me out?
[11:46] <markelhas0> kubuntu 6,10
[11:46] <|joe|> markelhas0: well i'm not sure i can help here
[11:46] <markelhas0> ktorrent
[11:46] <|joe|> markelhas0: few months ago i heard ktorrent was generally bit slower because of smth (internal algos, whatever)
[11:47] <|joe|> markelhas0: but now with the 2.0.x i don't have any probs
[11:47] <|joe|> markelhas0: but you can try azureus, it should be in the repos (use sun java for this), maybe it works better for you
[11:48] <nagyv_> hello! I would like to use my wifi with a hidden access point (of course it is my access point :)), but I can not connect to it only if it is not hidden. I use the Wireless Manager, should I use some more basic program? Something to set up at command line?
[11:49] <malix0> nagyv_: yiu can use iwconfig from command line
[11:50] <yalu> what is the "right" way to configure a printer in kubuntu? I recently bought a Brother laserprinter (usb) but am wondering is there is some whizbang hardware detection built in the distro for printers
[11:51] <malix0> nagyv_: you can also put your wirless connection parameters into /etc/network/interfaces
[11:51] <nagyv_> malix0: this means that theoretically Linux should be able to handle the hidden access point. Cool! :)
[11:51] <steven__> can someone please help me before i kill the pc
[11:51] <steven__> i'm at my wits end
[11:51] <malix0> nagyv_: I don't know but you can try
[11:51] <nagyv_> steven__: yes, lean back in your seat,  take some deep breaths, and ask your question
[11:52] <steven__> how the hell do i install icon themes in kde 3.5
[11:52] <markelhas> anyone help me out with ktorrent config!?!?!
[11:52] <malix0> try from command line iwconfig your_nic essid your_ssid
[11:52] <steven__> been trying for 2 days
[11:52] <|joe|> yalu: what type?
[11:53] <|joe|> yalu: if it's supported you can configure it via kde's system settings -> printers
[11:53] <malix0> nagyv_: and iwconfig interface key s:your_password if you have one
[11:53] <rabello> oi
[11:53] <yalu> |joe|: brother hl-2030, most sold inexpensive model at the moment I think (at least where I live)
[11:53] <rabello> algum sabe como instalar MSN no ubuntu?
[11:54] <steven__> hello?
[11:54] <nejode> rabello: sudo apt-get install amsn
[11:54] <nagyv_> steven__: follow these instructions: http://www.kde-artists.org/node/112
[11:55] <|joe|> yalu: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Brother-HL-2030
[11:55] <rabello> hi
[11:55] <rabello> someone knows how to install msn for ubuntu?
[11:56] <rengolin> use gaim
[11:56] <rengolin> sudo apt-get install gaim
[11:56] <nagyv_> rabello: or kopete
[11:56] <rengolin> yup, or kopete
[11:56] <nejode> rabello: sudo apt-get install amsn
[11:56] <rabello> yes
[11:56] <rabello> thanks
[11:56] <markelhas0> rabello: usa o gaim mt melhor
[11:56] <yalu> |joe|: thanks, it's hard to spot hyperlinks on linuxprinting.org though
[11:56] <steven__> Thankyou SOO much
[11:56] <|joe|> yalu: mmnt
[11:57] <steven__> will let you know if i manage it!
[11:57] <|joe|> yalu: i'm looking into the wizard
[11:57] <markelhas0> ppl need help to config ktorrent plz help me aout
[11:57] <jorge_> canal espaol?
[11:57] <nagyv_> steven__: you are welcome
[11:57] <nagyv_> jorge_: !es
[11:57] <jorge_> ok
[11:58] <|joe|> yalu: can try it with the hl2060, it's in the wizard
[11:58] <jager|work> is there a way to wget like every file on a webserver?
[11:58] <jager|work> totally mirror everything?
[11:58] <|joe|> yalu: or try the brother's drivers, but then you have to follow brother's instructions
[11:58] <enotee> how do i add plugins in K3b 0.12.17(Using KDE 3.5.5)
[11:58] <tobre> OK, sox is installed and now when I run play file.wav I get error: Can't open output file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy
[11:59] <yalu> |joe|: brother drivers... I guess those won't be open source? or are they just ghostscript filters or something
[11:59] <|joe|> yalu: well i did find this for dapper http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=123539
[11:59] <|joe|> yalu: this might be exactly what you need :)
[11:59] <yalu> thanksalot
[11:59] <|joe|> yalu: i think they're not os
[12:01] <tobre> What is wrong when that error appears?
[12:02] <|joe|> ... and started transcode that should take 8hrs :-E
[12:02] <zerak> thingy one more thing, looking a bit at alsa, there they tell one to create such a file, did you follow that guide when u did yours or should one rely on ubuntu/kubuntu
[12:03] <thingy> zerak: I think I did look at the alsa website for instructions
[12:03] <enotee> Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format: Error when i try to burn a Mp3 cd
[12:03] <thingy> zerak: so I might have created the file from there
[12:03] <tobre> Ok, I look again.
[12:03] <zerak> Goodnight everyone and thanks for the help
[12:03] <enotee> ...using K3b
[12:04] <thingy> !mp3
[12:04] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:04] <luciano_> hello everyone
[12:04] <luciano_> can anyone tell me how can I test my opengl performance ?
[12:04] <dergringo|afk> can anyone tell me why I get this error on starting kismet? (Kubuntu 6.10 / DLINK DWL-G650): http://pastebin.com/821487
[12:05] <steven__> nagyv_ trying that now, however do you know how tho shange the kubuntu menu button icon only
[12:05] <luciano_> i've installed neverball, but it's very, very slow, and i have a good card
[12:06] <malix0> luciano_: try glxgears
[12:06] <thingy> luciano_: ati or nvidia graphics card?
[12:06] <nagyv_> steven__: no, but try google, it is a very clever program, I have found the link with to you before :)
[12:06] <luciano_> nvidia
[12:06] <thingy> !nvidia
[12:06] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[12:06] <steven__> tried already but no luck
[12:06] <steven__> will keep going
[12:06] <steven__> thanks again
[12:06] <luciano_> i couldn't find glxgears on adept
[12:07] <thingy> luciano_: see what ubotu said...and just type in glxgears at the console it should already be there
[12:08] <luciano_> yeap, it is, and the gears are spinning S_L_O_W_L_Y
[12:08] <luciano_> hehe
[12:08] <thingy> luciano_: you need to install the nvidia binary drivers so that it uses hardware accleration for opengl/3d
[12:08] <luciano_> ok, i'll follow the help link
[12:08] <luciano_> thanks a lot !
[12:09] <|joe|> nvidia-glx
[12:09] <|joe|> use it myself :)
[12:09] <tobre> Thanks for helping me, guys. I got my .wav's work. ;)
[12:10] <tobre> But I'm not running out of questions, teherefore I'll come back soon. :) But not today. Thanks again. :)