[12:15] kiko: The attack vector is, my build compromises the environment used for the next build, so the next build (for somebody else's PPA) is compromised and contains my evil code [12:15] malcc, you mean the chroot? isn't that transfered to the box? or something else? [12:16] or do you mean breaking out of the chroot is possible? [12:16] Yes, with root access you can break the chroot === mdz [i=mdz@conference/ubuntuconf/x-7d742f6d8b4d97c8] has joined #launchpad [12:16] mmm [12:16] IC [12:16] Possibly even without root access. I didn't stop to get all the details, I'm not a security expert, I just know enough to listen when they tell me what they need [12:17] breaking out of a chroot when you're not root involves getting to be root first [12:17] but, seeing as local root exploits are patched less quickly than for example remote ones [12:18] it's still something to keep in mind [12:18] SteveA, this is a buildd.. [12:18] so local root is something malicious code doesn't have to do rocket science to get [12:19] BjornT, stub, what's the LP spec for the bug reporting tool, LP side? [12:21] carlos, can you tell me what you think of this latest round of discussions on language teams? === fabbione [n=fabbione@vpn-nat.fabbione.net] has joined #launchpad [12:23] stub: ping [12:24] kiko: pitti has had a look at initial-cve-tracking now, so you can approve it [12:24] it's 12.30am here. I want to talk with mpt before I go to sleep. [12:24] anyone at UDS able to help me with this? [12:24] BjornT, rock on. [12:24] kiko: SupportingBugReportingTool [12:24] also, stub, I'd like to check how beta.lp.net is going [12:24] kiko: I only was at https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/unifying-loco-resources-with-launchpad [12:25] kiko: the others were Drafting sessions [12:25] carlos, hmmm. wasn't there a specific language teams discussion? === srf21c [n=Seth@ip72-201-117-218.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #launchpad [12:25] stuart already told you that it was deprecated [12:25] carlos: I can't find the sql statement neneded to change the owner of a translation group [12:26] Howdy. Was wondering if it's possible to edit your own comments on the ubuntu launchpad site? [12:26] carlos: can you tell me or mail stub directly with the necessary to make silva translators owned by "thisfred"? [12:26] and I think I said here also that mdz said that they will handle it outside launchpad, and once they have the set of data that they need they will see what could be implemented in launchpad.... [12:26] would like to clarify a post of mine. [12:26] jordi: sure [12:26] jordi: please, send me an email so I don't forget it... [12:27] carlos, I am confused. we have a real issue with language teams today, which is raging on rosetta-users and launchpad-users, and you tell me "the spec is deprecated"? [12:27] SteveA: I think Znarl was doing the mirroring I needed earlier today, but the rt job has not yet been closed. [12:27] kiko: first [12:28] carlos: sure [12:28] SteveA: i can't find mpt anywhere [12:28] SteveA: I just gave mpt a physical ping [12:28] Hmm, that didn't quite come out how it sounded in my head [12:28] we don't have such spec but an informal meeting with one of the Esperanto guys [12:28] malcc: thanks [12:28] second [12:29] stub: ok. I'm going to add a beta testers team to production now [12:29] At least I think that was mpt, all the nametag swapping is getting out of hand [12:29] and also, I'll shortly be landing all the new vhosts [12:29] kiko: as far as I know, the people that are participating on the mailing list about this issue aren't here [12:29] so [12:29] Sure [12:29] unless you want that I have a meeting with myself.... [12:29] so please check that we're fine with starting to use these [12:29] is a bit difficult to reach something [12:29] kiko: we have already a set of improvements to finish/implement [12:30] from what we talked with the Tim by email === mpt [i=mpt@conference/ubuntuconf/x-87243154d2681cb7] has joined #launchpad [12:30] and also, I still have some pending email from that thread, which I cannot handle due other tasks at UDS... [12:30] carlos, mmkay. I'm sure we could discuss these things better, though. I guess I'll just call a redux for the allhands. [12:31] SteveA, pong [12:31] kiko: sure, but I don't think we should define a bunch of changes for it now and the take a lot of time to implement them and see how they went [12:31] kiko: I think we should finish the mechanisms that we already defined or agreed on implement [12:31] carlos, the "take a lot of time to implement" think is something we need to address regardless. [12:31] hi mpt [12:32] and get feedback on those and keep defining new ones if we see are needed [12:32] kiko: sure [12:32] anyway [12:32] ok. [12:33] kiko: but handling more than three, four things at the same time doesn't help a lot there [12:33] or saying it more clear... we have limited resources... [12:34] said that, with danilo on board, we are now handling more things and it's starting to go faster... [12:36] New bug: #71159 in launchpad "No way to not schedule a spec that's in Drafting state" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71159 [12:37] malcc, I'm interested in Xen for a moment. does this mean no powerpc PPAs? [12:37] kiko: Yes [12:38] hmmm. [12:38] k === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #launchpad === srf21c [n=Seth@ip72-201-117-218.ph.ph.cox.net] has left #launchpad [] [12:49] BjornT, stub, what's the LP spec for the bug reporting tool, LP side? [12:52] BjornT, found it: https://features.launchpad.net/products/malone/+spec/support-bug-reporting-tool [12:52] BjornT, I'm going to reassign to stub [12:52] BjornT, he can bounce it back to you [12:55] ta [12:55] just so we know what it's about [12:57] ok [01:01] flacoste, ping again === seb128_ [i=seb@conference/ubuntuconf/x-4fdc8c7d1183b7a4] has joined #launchpad === belito [n=user@201.240.99.92] has joined #launchpad === carlos [i=carlos@conference/ubuntuconf/x-88088a8da01fd718] has joined #launchpad [01:09] salgado, ping? [01:10] salgado, https://launchpad.canonical.com/SupportingBugReportingTool has some stuff on token redirects. can you check that it is feasible? [01:10] basically preserving GET parameters. [01:12] preserving query strings in tokens? === mpt [i=mpt@conference/ubuntuconf/x-12fef421ed42a2aa] has joined #launchpad [01:13] kiko: bug 70807 [01:13] Malone bug 70807 in launchpad "Properly redirect people when creating new accounts" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/70807 === Seveas [i=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad [01:15] BjornT, mmmm. [01:16] kiko: I'm not keen on preserving arbitrary query parameters [01:16] I'd suggest an alternative: [01:16] ...gedit/+filebug?info=1234 changes to ...gedit/+filebug/info=1234 or just ...gedit/+filebug/1234 [01:17] SteveA, really? hidden issue? [01:17] what are you asking? [01:18] why you are not keen on it, SteveA [01:18] a few reasons [01:18] - I've seen complexity in preserving GET query params in our login forms already [01:19] - it makes forms more complicated, because they need to deal with GET vs POST data in the same namespace [01:19] - it may open XSS vectors we haven't consider === stub [i=stub@conference/ubuntuconf/x-0d5d26f12b98cc67] has joined #launchpad [01:19] if all we need to do is preserve that one piece of information, I'd say do it as part of the URL === fabbione [n=fabbione@vpn-nat.fabbione.net] has joined #launchpad [01:20] SteveA, hmmm. if we allowed traversal on +filebug we could avoid this completely [01:20] I guess [01:20] +filebug/blob/12331 [01:20] it's easy enough to make a page deal with stuff that goes after it [01:20] well, I know the right magic anyway [01:20] I just want salgado not be blocked on this when he comes to it === _mholthaus [n=mholthau@johnny33.dersbach.ch] has joined #launchpad === salgado [i=salgado@conference/ubuntuconf/x-e550262bf79fb3fb] has joined #launchpad === BjornT [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #launchpad === stub [i=stub@conference/ubuntuconf/x-0439c5ae1e4ecd25] has joined #launchpad === mdz [i=mdz@conference/ubuntuconf/x-a4711f9b316d6ff9] has joined #launchpad === stu1 [i=stub@conference/ubuntuconf/x-320c90fffb0477a5] has joined #launchpad [01:47] mmm [01:47] I don't know how to comment on specs === malcc [i=malcolm@conference/ubuntuconf/x-9a634ccceb4c541a] has joined #launchpad [02:28] kiko-fud: you cant comment on specs in lp, need to do it in the wiki === salgado [i=salgado@conference/ubuntuconf/x-f21a3b9c9c8243b9] has joined #launchpad [02:32] stub: I updated LaunchpadProductionStatus with some details about the vhosting changes. There's an RT request needed to avoid breaking links when this gets rolled out. [02:35] kiko-fud: around? [02:38] SteveA: is your pqm stuff working ? [02:40] stub: the oops count doubled yesterday, did we do a rollout or change anything ? [02:44] That would be the rollout stuffup I emailed launchpad mailing list about [02:44] Prob lots of timeouts [02:49] okies === salgado [i=salgado@conference/ubuntuconf/x-0ce38a589d7fcb22] has joined #launchpad === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #launchpad === Znarl [n=karl@bb-82-108-14-161.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@ppp110-150.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === jml_ [n=jml@ppp110-150.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === jml_ [n=jml@ppp110-150.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === jml_ is now known as jml === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === newz2000 [n=matt@12-216-147-124.client.mchsi.com] has left #launchpad ["Anyone] === jml [n=jml@ppp110-150.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #launchpad === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #launchpad === ryanakca [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #launchpad === ryanakca [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #launchpad === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-083-102-068-117.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #launchpad === Fujitsu [n=Fujitsu@ubuntu/member/fujitsu] has joined #launchpad === Spads [n=spacehob@host-84-9-50-138.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #launchpad === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@ppp110-150.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@137.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-65-67-112-77.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #launchpad [07:59] hi all [08:06] is there any resource for getting a GPG key set up? I really am not sure of the specifics, here. === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad [09:37] BHSPitMonkey: yeah, hang on a tic [09:37] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto === mholthaus [n=mholthau@188-175.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@137.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === cge [n=costi@DHCP-159-79.caltech.edu] has joined #launchpad === xenru|clone [n=Miranda@85.192.13.207] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200.181.168.60] has joined #launchpad === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === matsubara [n=matsubar@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200.181.168.60] has joined #launchpad === Spads [n=spacehob@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad === MaSa69 [n=MaSa69@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fe1cfb00-100.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #launchpad [02:47] hey SteveA === fabbione [n=fabbione@vpn-nat.fabbione.net] has joined #launchpad === ddaa [n=ddaa@nor75-18-82-241-238-155.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad [03:11] kiko: btw, there is a fmt:break-long-words formatter in rocketfuel now [03:12] jamesh, you think I didn't notice? many many thanks [03:16] kiko: pong [03:16] latency sucks [03:16] flacoste, mmm, not sure I remember anymore what I wanted to talk to you about. [03:16] maybe I emailed you [03:17] ok, ping back if you remember [03:17] ok === malcc [n=malcolm@38.99.84.33] has joined #launchpad === zoetrope666 [n=admin@mppp-p-144-139-121-197.prem.tmns.net.au] has joined #launchpad [03:53] hey malcc! [03:56] Morning [03:56] how's it hanging there [03:57] I'm pretty pleased it's friday. [03:57] Six 9am - 6:30pm days in a row is a lot [03:57] zzz === zoetrope666 [n=admin@mppp-p-144-139-121-197.prem.tmns.net.au] has left #launchpad ["Konversation] === mpt [n=mpt@209.79.152.234] has joined #launchpad [04:17] mpt, what do you think of https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bug/71233 [04:17] Malone bug 71233 in launchpad "Merge various distribution and product role edit pages into a +roles page." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] [04:25] malcc, or you, what dya think? [04:25] New bug: #71233 in launchpad "Merge various distribution and product role edit pages into a +roles page." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71233 [04:26] kiko: Looks sane from here, but I've managed so far not to learn much about permissions and roles in launchpad [04:29] morning [04:29] yawning === ddaa [n=ddaa@nor75-18-82-241-238-155.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@38.99.84.33] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@188-175.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad [05:05] kiko, that's what I meant when I said last week that Launchpad has far too many pages :-) [05:05] I agree with that bug [05:05] Actually I reported one earlier about having one page for all your Malone customizations [05:05] one for your Rosetta customizations === mpt [n=mpt@38.99.84.33] has joined #launchpad [05:06] ... one for your Rosetta customizations [05:06] etc [05:07] mpt, I don't think a single +roles page is bad.. people have a hard time finding action items that are tied to facets that are not the overview facet [05:07] and I don't think it's just a function of having bad navigation [05:07] SteveA, ping [05:09] kiko: hi [05:09] hi there [05:09] how is the weather [05:09] ok [05:09] so, the 1.0 ui [05:10] yes [05:10] the fabled 1.0 UI [05:10] mark is displeased with the 1.0 beta ui [05:10] as it stands currently implemented [05:11] or so we hear [05:12] but this is really between mark, usman and mpt [05:12] in my opinion [05:12] we're about to roll out the app domains [05:13] mpt is blocking me on the menus because he reverted what I had [05:13] and mark used a lot of mpt's implementation time in doing mockups for more pages [05:13] immmm [05:13] -? [05:13] -> [05:14] so, I think we need more mpt time to get this done [05:14] *** -? [05:14] as I'm not really competent to actually do ui implementation [05:15] but, mpt has limited time, and there's still a lot of actual text to be updated in template [05:16] although, getting more help text will help too... and that's been landing recently === salgado [n=salgado@38.99.84.33] has joined #launchpad [05:22] hey salgado [05:22] 38 is pretty low in the CIDR scheme [05:22] hi kiko [05:22] I don't think I've ever been below the 70s [05:27] BjornT, ping === Spads [n=spacehob@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad === Ng [n=cmsj@mairukipa.tenshu.net] has joined #launchpad === sfllaw [i=sfllaw@debian/developer/coleSLAW] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@38.99.84.33] has joined #launchpad === BHSPitMonkey [n=stephen@adsl-65-67-112-77.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #launchpad === jml [n=jml@ppp110-150.lns1.hba1.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #launchpad === Jozo [i=jozo@nelli.ikonia.fi] has joined #launchpad === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #launchpad === LarstiQ [n=larstiq@cust.7.157.adsl.cistron.nl] has joined #launchpad === elmo [n=james@83-216-156-21.jamest747.adsl.metronet.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === MaSa69 [n=MaSa69@dsl-jklbrasgw1-fe1cfb00-100.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #launchpad === xenru|clone [n=Miranda@85.192.13.207] has joined #launchpad === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad === Znarl [n=karl@bb-82-108-14-161.ukonline.co.uk] has joined #launchpad === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/bot/ubugtu] has joined #launchpad === lifeless [n=robertc@ppp245-86.static.internode.on.net] has joined #launchpad === lamont [i=lamont@nat/hp/x-8fe3ca663e2e23a9] has joined #launchpad === lfittl [n=lfittl@83.64.250.38] has joined #launchpad === mholthaus_ [n=mholthau@188-175.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad === ddaa [n=ddaa@nor75-18-82-241-238-155.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === AstralJava [n=jaska@cm-083-102-068-117.lohjanpuhelin.fi] has joined #launchpad === _mholthaus [n=mholthau@johnny33.dersbach.ch] has joined #launchpad === spiv [n=andrew@218-214-66-203.people.net.au] has joined #launchpad === Jozo- [i=jozo@viola.uninea.fi] has joined #launchpad === Riddell [i=jr@kde/jriddell] has joined #launchpad === jkakar [n=jkakar@204.174.36.228] has joined #launchpad === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch] has joined #launchpad === frsk [i=fredrik@houston.fr3drik.net] has joined #launchpad === SteveA [n=steve@costello.z3u.com] has joined #launchpad === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #launchpad === Fanch [n=fanch@fanfan.staff.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === [PUPPETS] Gonzo [n=gonzo@80.69.47.16] has joined #launchpad [05:31] BjornT, ping [05:32] kiko: pong === mpt [i=mpt@conference/ubuntuconf/x-e600b46186d85f58] has joined #launchpad === Seveas [i=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad [05:40] BjornT, please make sure you talk to mark to get his status notes today, okay? don't let that drop or I am toast [05:43] kiko: yeah, i'll make sure to do that today. === Keybuk [i=scott@conference/ubuntuconf/x-a234f9ca6271fa3e] has joined #launchpad [05:57] kiko: ping === carlos [i=carlos@conference/ubuntuconf/x-c7af402d6704e4eb] has joined #launchpad === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable207.210-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has left #launchpad ["Bye"] === salgado [i=salgado@conference/ubuntuconf/x-e9327c433332f08c] has joined #launchpad === flacoste [n=francis@modemcable207.210-200-24.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [i=sabdfl@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@monga.dorianet.com.br] has joined #launchpad === fabbione [i=fabbione@conference/ubuntuconf/x-3d6b5b030ae1bde7] has joined #launchpad === ddaa -> dinner === malcc [i=malcolm@conference/ubuntuconf/x-03e5007b2408481a] has joined #launchpad [06:13] salgado: ping === stub [i=stub@conference/ubuntuconf/x-09807fc08ad6dabd] has joined #launchpad === mdz [i=mdz@conference/ubuntuconf/x-ef6b76224e148e35] has joined #launchpad [06:14] hi flacoste [06:14] hi salgado, how's UDS? [06:15] flacoste, it's fine... how are things on your side? [06:16] fine, ready to leave for SF tomorrow, and I hope to put the last bits of localized-requests up for review today [06:16] salgado: and I wanted to discuss the search feature with you [06:17] I find that the 'English/Preferred Languages/Any Language" radio choices takes too much screen estate [06:18] yeah, that is true [06:18] i thought about an alternative: by default always display requests in English and in the user's preferred language [06:18] and put a small checkbox called 'All Languages' [06:19] Also, put a notice stating which languages are displayed with link to the 'Preferred Languages' page to choose other [06:19] I was also thinking of displaying that notice if not all languages were displayed [06:20] for example, if there are only tickets in English, don't display the notice === doko [i=doko@conference/ubuntuconf/x-9d8d8af202688d05] has joined #launchpad [06:21] another possibility: when there are tickets in many languages: display one checkbox for each available (horizontally like for status) with default selection to 'English' + preferred languages [06:21] what do you think of these salgado? [06:22] (kiko: do you have an opinion on the above?) [06:23] flacoste, so, with the first suggestion the notice would be displayed by default and would be removed if the 'All Languages' checkbox was checked? === dsas [n=dean@cpc2-stok6-0-0-cust395.bagu.cable.ntl.com] has joined #launchpad [06:24] salgado: the notice would be remove if the 'All Languages' checkbox is checked or if we effectively display all languages (because there are only tickets in English or the user's preferred languages) [06:24] im on the phone help [06:25] New bug: #71244 in blueprint "scheduling of sessions should be independent of it's state" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71244 [06:27] the problem with the alternative (one checkbox by language present in the TicketTarget) is that it's not scalable as the number of languages grow [06:27] but it's perfect when the number is small [06:28] maybe we could scale automatically from 'no widget' when only English is used, checkbox for every available languages on the target when that number is small (<=5) and then only an 'All Languages' widget when they're many and display only 'English' + preferred languages [06:29] I'm afraid that the second alternative wouldn't scale even for 3 languages === seb128 [i=seb@conference/ubuntuconf/x-1764ddaa7c518270] has joined #launchpad [06:29] we have 6 statuses and they display fine [06:29] because that mean's we'd have "English + preferred languages", "Language with long name", "Another language", "Even other language" [06:30] Languages: [X] English [ ] French [X] Portuguese (Brazil) [ ] Spanish [06:30] yeah, but we have control on the length of the statuses === Gwaihir [n=Gwaihir@ppp-182-108.25-151.libero.it] has joined #launchpad [06:30] ok, then only nothing (only English used) or 'All Languages' then [06:30] we don't have that many languages with long names [06:31] but I prefer the first alternative [06:31] what I like with the second alternative, is that the user gets instant feedback on what he can select, no need for notice, etc. [06:33] yeah, that's indeed a good thing, but if there are two or three other languages he'd have to mark three checkboxes, and I think the most common case will be somebody wanting to see tickets in all languages [06:33] right [06:33] other than that I think people will only want to see the tickets in one of their preferred languages [06:34] that makes sense [06:34] i'll go with an 'All Languages' checkbox then [06:35] flacoste, I think that is fine... and thanks for taking the time to sort this out, which is something I noticed too, but didn't have time to discuss/fix [06:36] no problem :-) [06:36] salgado: did you have some support tracker related discussion at UDS? [06:37] salgado: what do you think of a notice like 'Only support requests in English, Portuguese Brazil are displayed. To see requests in other languages either click the "All Languages" checkbox or _change_ your preferred languages.'? [06:38] Of course, that notice would only be displayed when there are requests in another language. [06:40] yeah, I think it's fine [06:40] maybe too long? === Spads [n=spacehob@host-84-9-50-138.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #launchpad [06:41] mpt may be able to get something simpler for us, but since this is not going to be displayed always, I don't think it's a big deal === malcc [i=malcolm@conference/ubuntuconf/x-b2ddea655d3557d8] has joined #launchpad [06:43] salgado: thanks for the discussion === flacoste will implement that after lunch [06:46] flacoste-lunch, for the record, I think salgado's okay with the all languages thing -- we can wait for users to complain first before trying to address anything else === carlos [i=carlos@conference/ubuntuconf/x-bb1428161247375a] has joined #launchpad [06:50] hey carlos [06:51] carlos, I added more comments to the langpack ui spec. [06:51] carlos, your changes wrt the UI look okay [06:51] I have more questions though. [06:51] salgado, can you /MAKE SURE/ mpt pings me in 2h? [06:51] salgado, I have something that is super urgent [06:52] and he needs to talk to me about it [06:53] kiko: hi [06:53] I pinged you yesterday to answer your questions [06:53] but anyway, I will leave teh answers in the document [06:53] in the new section you added [06:53] kiko: thanks for your input [06:54] kiko, I'll do that [06:54] matsubara: hi, sorry, I had to restart the computer and lose what you messaged to me === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #launchpad [06:54] hello [06:54] carlos, you're welcome [06:55] let me eat and bbiab. [06:55] is a launchpad logo in 128x128 somewhere on the net ? === JanC [n=janc@lugwv/member/JanC] has joined #launchpad === daq4th [n=darkness@netstation-005.cafe.zSeries.org] has joined #launchpad [07:01] lifeless: wow that Finnish guy is impatient [07:01] carlos: any progress with Silva translators? === mpt [i=mpt@conference/ubuntuconf/x-ef4fe4122e1dce42] has joined #launchpad [07:05] kiko-fud, pong === mholthaus [n=mholthau@192.29.76.83.cust.bluewin.ch] has joined #launchpad === seb128 [i=seb@conference/ubuntuconf/x-d7f2d8c9342968d7] has joined #launchpad === carlos [i=carlos@conference/ubuntuconf/x-5695bd55c1e110fc] has joined #launchpad [07:21] SteveA: Where does the publication machinery live now? I need to hook in and maintain counters of requests served, number of exceptions raised etc. [07:22] it's all in webapp [07:22] webapp.publication webapp.publisher [07:23] we know the number of exceptions raised from the oops reports [07:23] and we know the number of requests served from the weblogs [07:23] so why do you need this? [07:24] Monitoring [07:24] So hook into rootobject.publishTraverse or something? [07:25] endrequest event? [07:25] I was thinking of hooking into the stuff that calls the traversal code, but it looks like we nolonger customize that [07:25] Hmm... [07:25] That won't tell us if an exception has been raised etc. [07:25] so, you want to know [07:25] - request start [07:25] - request ended [07:25] - reason request ended: [07:26] timeout, exception (what kind), soft timeout [07:26] No - I need to maintain a counter incremented when a request is served, a request served via http, a request served via xmlrpc and counters when various exceptions are raised. [07:27] (although we might want timing information later...) [07:27] ok [07:27] for request being served via whatever, I'd say hook into the [07:27] VirtualHostRequestPublication.__call__ [07:28] that gives you a place that is used for every request and clear information as to which kind of vhost is used [07:28] That is our replacement for ZopePublication? [07:28] no [07:28] that's a factory for an appopriate publication and request type for a particular request [07:29] it is called for every incoming request [07:29] so you can keep your count separate from what particular publications are used [07:29] That doesn't seem to exist [07:30] when did you last merge from RF? === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad [07:30] Yesterday [07:31] you got r4253? [07:32] Nope [07:32] you could also hook into webapp/publication.py's LaunchpadBrowserPublication [07:32] you have beforeTraversal(self, request) [07:32] no vai caber tudo [07:33] which is where we write out the thread-xxxx.request files [07:33] oops [07:33] and handleException and endRequest [07:33] I think xmlrpc uses that publication too === glatzor [n=glatzor@p54965D58.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad [07:46] hi carlos [07:46] glatzor: hi === mpt [i=mpt@conference/ubuntuconf/x-406577e2dc71e365] has joined #launchpad [07:47] carlos: I would like to use Rosetta to translate the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter. [07:47] ok [07:47] glatzor: do you have already a .pot file for it' [07:47] ? [07:47] carlos: So I created a product. Is there a way to automatically upload the po files using a script? [07:47] or do you need help on it? [07:47] carlos: I use txt2po :) [07:49] carlos: Can I push updated po files using a script? Or can they be extracted from a bzr repo? [07:49] glatzor: you can use a script [07:49] glatzor: using curl [07:49] glatzor: talk with mvo [07:50] thanks [07:50] he developed some scripts to do it [07:50] carlos: by the way have you already looked at the ubuntu-docs in edgy? [07:50] they cannot be translated [07:55] glatzor: no, sorry. I will do it right now before I get busy at UDS... [07:57] carlos: Thanks. I would like to complete it before the next language pack role out === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has left #launchpad [] [07:57] carlos: The po file import/export works again? [07:58] glatzor: hmmm, well, that's not going to work... [07:58] ubuntu-docs are not handled as part of language packs.... [07:58] glatzor: only exports, imports are still closed [07:59] carlos: you could do this manually? I would like to reuse the translations of the edgy manuals for dapper [07:59] carlos: so there is no other upstream than us [08:01] doing what? [08:01] upload .po files into Rosetta? === Seveas [i=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad === matid [n=matid@ubuntu/member/matid] has joined #launchpad === mpt [i=mpt@conference/ubuntuconf/x-9fbebb424ca8d46a] has joined #launchpad [08:22] mpt, ping === ddaa is back === fabbione [i=fabbione@conference/ubuntuconf/x-ec5fb2e0e06d7c53] has joined #launchpad [08:35] mpt, ping [08:38] kiko, pong [08:38] look at that, mpt [08:38] mpt, can you ring me? [08:38] or do you have a US number I can reach? [08:38] I'm roaming, my mobile number on /Offices works [08:39] yeah but that's uncallable for me [08:40] voip? [08:40] pffft [08:40] please. something reliable. [08:41] I use it every day here to call home.... [08:41] it's quite reliable === malcc [i=malcolm@conference/ubuntuconf/x-9ff91f42a79add08] has joined #launchpad === mpt [i=mpt@conference/ubuntuconf/x-0ade2dab57d3e87f] has joined #launchpad [08:55] kiko: is it possible to do a SELECT DISTINCT using SQLObject? [08:55] or should I use a subselect for that? [08:56] like .select("id IN (SELECT DISTINCT...)") [08:56] flacoste, yes. both distinct and distinct on. but you need to think about it a bit. [08:56] so if it's just select distinct, just pass distinct=True to your select [08:57] if you want DISTINCT ON then you need to subselect yes. [08:57] what is DISTINCT ON? [08:57] i want to retrieve the languages used in a given tickettarget [08:58] so Language.select("ticketarget.language=Language.id", distinct=True) ? [08:58] distinct on means you distinct on certain attributes, not the entire result set. [08:59] hmm, since this joins tickettarget, it won't work? [09:01] flacoste, in this case you actually need a "select distinct language from tickettarget where ...", no? [09:01] flacoste, why won't it work? [09:01] salgado, what are you talking about? [09:01] of course it will work. [09:01] Language.select("ticketarget.language=Language.id", distinct=True, clauseTables="TicketTarget") ? [09:01] that is how you do it [09:02] ok, Language will only select the language's field? [09:02] o/` you play the guitar on the mtv o/` [09:02] fantastique [09:02] dire straits, kiko? [09:02] anyway, bbiab [09:03] I am indeed in dire straits === fabbione [n=fabbione@vpn-nat.fabbione.net] has joined #launchpad === WebMaven [n=webmaven@ip72-193-220-34.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #launchpad === glatzor [n=glatzor@p54965D58.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #launchpad [] [09:17] kiko: you were right, it works fine :-) [09:18] good. === carlos [i=carlos@conference/ubuntuconf/x-eeab513b2b58b299] has joined #launchpad === mpt [i=mpt@conference/ubuntuconf/x-d81068351301d1a8] has joined #launchpad [09:21] kiko, no mail from you yet [09:22] mpt, hold on, your turn now === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === seb128 [i=seb@conference/ubuntuconf/x-50bfcc26b9c726c1] has joined #launchpad === mdke [n=matt@85-210-213-203.dsl.pipex.com] has joined #launchpad [09:29] ok :-) === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #launchpad [09:33] hi ... is there a large launchpad logo image on the web? [09:36] mhb, not at the moment [09:36] mhb, humm, mpt might know, and if not, maybe hmm matt nuzum [09:36] Why do you ask? === dsas [n=dean@host-84-9-170-44.bulldogdsl.com] has joined #launchpad [09:37] I wanted to point at a launchpad page with an icon [09:44] kiko: We have an svg image in our development tree [09:45] ah, true! [09:45] mhb, you can look at the svg image [09:45] one sec for a url [09:49] oh bummer [09:49] no public svg === kiko attempts to dcc to mhb [09:51] please try again [09:52] sending again [09:52] (0%) - 0.00kB/s - ETA (stalled) - launchpad.svg [09:53] bummer man [09:53] mhb, email? [09:53] can you send it to my email? necteno@gmail.com [09:53] oh, cool [09:55] mhb, sent. [09:55] thanks [09:58] kiko: 16:06 < kiko> I never forget. laters! << remember when you forgot about my suggestion to make a Rosetta plugin for a LoCo dictionary? :o) [09:58] I have no idea what you are talking about :-P [09:59] kiko: seems your claim that you never forget was overrated at least :o) 12th of August was a while ago, I know [10:00] I never forget, really [10:00] I honestly believe that [10:01] kiko: well you forgot to send me an email after that discussion, and you probably forgot the whole dicussion by now :o) [10:01] oh === BenC [i=bcollins@debian/developer/bcollins] has joined #launchpad [10:01] I actually remember now [10:01] hello launchpaders! [10:01] I was going to send you some stuff on ajax, mhb [10:02] I still mean to.. it's on my todo notepad [10:02] hey BenC [10:02] I have a problem where I've created a poll, but I set the start date to 12am this morning, now I can't add options :) [10:02] BenC, hmm, that's no good. what's the URL? [10:03] https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-kernel-team/+poll/feisty-kernel-version [10:03] can't edit it or anything [10:03] lemme look. [10:03] BenC: bug 28670 [10:03] Malone bug 28670 in launchpad "Shouldn't be able to create a poll with zero options" [Medium,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/28670 [10:03] BenC, you need to get salgado and stub to fix that for you. [10:04] matsubara, related but perhaps different issue here [10:04] yeah, the only way to fix it is with manual DB intervention [10:04]