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Burgundavia | http://richmegginson.livejournal.com/4768.html | 04:01 |
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Burgundavia | life is good | 04:01 |
nkassi_ | What does he mean by discrete packaging ? They broke it up in pieces finally ? | 06:16 |
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Burgundavia | nkassi__: seperation of the non-free java stuff from the actual server | 07:32 |
nkassi | Interesting. Can it function without it ? How does that work out ? | 07:37 |
Burgundavia | yes | 07:38 |
Burgundavia | the java stuff is just a web admin panel | 07:38 |
nkassi | ah nice | 07:38 |
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SimonAnibal | Wow | 02:54 |
SimonAnibal | http://www.tangent.com/news/hecc2006/ <- A conference I'm going to | 02:55 |
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whiprush | Burgwork: around? | 08:42 |
Burgwork | whiprush: nevetr | 08:43 |
whiprush | heh | 08:43 |
whiprush | hey, so what would be a feasable way to do this: | 08:43 |
whiprush | move the current easyldapserver to something like easyldapserverlongterm or something | 08:44 |
ajmitch | hello Burgwork | 08:44 |
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whiprush | and then do easyldapfeisty | 08:44 |
whiprush | Burgwork: just wanted to run that by you to see what you think | 08:44 |
ajmitch | (wiki changes) | 08:44 |
whiprush | because the current spec is huge | 08:44 |
whiprush | and we want to narrow focus for feisty | 08:44 |
Burgwork | whiprush: why just make an easyldapserverfeisty spec | 08:45 |
whiprush | why not you mean right? | 08:45 |
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Burgwork | make the current spec informational | 08:45 |
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Burgwork | ie: it is information about what we want, not an implementation plan | 08:45 |
pixelpapst | so if we manage to go with slapd 2.3, could the "-F slapd-config-directory" be turned on by default ? | 08:46 |
pixelpapst | then we can play with the dynamic updating stuff whenever it comes up | 08:47 |
pixelpapst | plus, as bonus: just drop packaged schema files into /etc/ldap/slapd.d/cn=config/cn=schema and they are picked up autumatically :-) | 08:49 |
whiprush | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyLDAPServerFeisty | 08:50 |
whiprush | ok | 08:50 |
whiprush | here are the gobby notes | 08:50 |
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pixelpapst | not sure if somebody's still listening | 09:22 |
pixelpapst | just now i tested the upgrade path from pre-2.3 slapd again | 09:23 |
pixelpapst | with a moderately complex config file | 09:23 |
pixelpapst | basic upgrade path to go from config-file to config-dir: | 09:24 |
pixelpapst | # sanity checks (config file present, dir not) | 09:24 |
pixelpapst | mkdir /etc/ldap/slapd.d/ | 09:25 |
pixelpapst | slapcat -f /etc/ldap/slapd.conf -F /etc/ldap/slapd.d/ -b cn=config > /dev/null || die with error | 09:26 |
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pixelpapst | mv /etc/ldap/slapd.conf /etc/ldap/slapd.oldconf | 09:26 |
pixelpapst | # replace converted standard schema files with canonical copy | 09:28 |
pixelpapst | # (optional) | 09:29 |
Burgwork | whiprush: packaging for fds will get a lot easier with 1.1 | 09:45 |
whiprush | yeah aj was telling me | 09:46 |
whiprush | Burgwork: I still have no idea how all this works, but I'm glad everyone else does | 09:46 |
whiprush | heh | 09:46 |
Burgwork | but if Sun opensources their Java under a good license | 09:46 |
Burgwork | the issues go away, to a certain extent | 09:46 |
Burgwork | still good to split the packages | 09:46 |
pixelpapst | Burgwork: can you make an educated guess on when 1.1 will be released ? | 09:47 |
pixelpapst | (too late for feisty, i know) :) | 09:47 |
Burgwork | no idea | 09:47 |
Burgwork | 1.0.4 just came about yesterday | 09:47 |
Burgwork | likely too late for Feisty | 09:47 |
pixelpapst | yeah, i saw | 09:47 |
pixelpapst | talking about sun and java - appearantly they also want to have their own opensource directory server | 09:48 |
pixelpapst | but not based on their old code, but a complete rewrite in java | 09:49 |
Burgwork | who does? | 09:49 |
pixelpapst | sun | 09:49 |
Burgwork | that is crack, but meh | 09:49 |
pixelpapst | ack | 09:49 |
pixelpapst | vapourcrack :-) | 09:49 |
Burgwork | anybody else here advertised on DW? | 09:50 |
pixelpapst | DW ? | 09:51 |
nkinder | pixelpapst, Burgwork: We're hoping to get a fds 1.1 beta out by the end of the year. | 09:51 |
Burgwork | distrowatch | 09:51 |
Burgwork | nkinder: ok, you guys rock. Don't know if that will make Feisty though | 09:51 |
nkinder | understood. | 09:52 |
nkinder | How difficult would it to make an Ubuntu native package (it's a .deb, right?) of fds assuming the build-system and dependencies aren't a problem? | 09:53 |
nkinder | We would definitely be interested in someone helping to do that. | 09:54 |
pixelpapst | nkinder: if the build system really does play nice, not very | 09:55 |
pixelpapst | but usually it doesn't (nowhere, not trying to bash you guys :-) ) | 09:56 |
nkinder | It should play nice (./configure; make install) | 09:56 |
nkinder | I wrote a new build system. | 09:56 |
pixelpapst | automake-based ? | 09:56 |
nkinder | autoconf, automake, autoheader. | 09:56 |
pixelpapst | yeah, i hate the whole lot of them :-) | 09:56 |
nkinder | It's already checked in, but we're working on instance creation and a few layout things still. | 09:56 |
pixelpapst | but thanks for putting work into that :-) | 09:56 |
nkinder | Yeah, but they're better than our old system. | 09:57 |
Burgwork | nkinder: the person who has done our packaging is ajmitch | 09:57 |
Burgwork | both whiprush and myself are nothing more than admins | 09:57 |
nkinder | ok. When we finish polishing it, I'll talk with him. | 09:57 |
Burgwork | the sooner you can get that working, the sooner it works for us | 09:58 |
Burgwork | and the less work we have to put into openldap | 09:58 |
pixelpapst | nkinder: ack, it's horrible on the developer and mostly nice on the packager :) | 09:58 |
pixelpapst | Burgwork: damn, just as i start pushing my favourite openldap hacks ;-) | 09:59 |
nkinder | Burgwork: We hope to have it working by the end of next week. | 10:00 |
nkinder | This is for the core directory only. No admin server or java console. | 10:01 |
pixelpapst | nkinder: you FDS guys ever been in contact with the Hula crowd ? | 10:01 |
nkinder | We've been separating those into different optional packages. | 10:01 |
nkinder | pixelpapst: Nope. | 10:01 |
nkinder | I heard a rumor that Hula hasn't been getting much attention as of late. | 10:01 |
Burgwork | nkinder: core is whwat re really care about | 10:01 |
Burgwork | and your Hula rumour is somewhat correct | 10:01 |
pixelpapst | as of late == in the last year or in the last month ? | 10:02 |
nkinder | I haven't followed it, That's just what I heard. | 10:03 |
pixelpapst | the last year was quiet, because all the kewl stuff is happening on a branch | 10:03 |
pixelpapst | which has AFAIK only been packaged for deb/ubuntu | 10:04 |
pixelpapst | but there, the LDAP support now kicks ass | 10:04 |
pixelpapst | alss a bit experimental, but still very pretty | 10:04 |
pixelpapst | only i think they are concentrating pretty heavyly on openldap - even eDirectory gets less attention :) | 10:05 |
pixelpapst | so i hope they get into bed with FDS soon ;-) | 10:06 |
pixelpapst | btw its lunchbreak now in mountain view, right ? | 10:07 |
nkinder | pixelpapst: nope. I's 1:15 in MV. | 10:15 |
pixelpapst | ack, just looked like that to me from the schedule | 10:17 |
pixelpapst | anyhow, it's 6:18 am here | 10:18 |
pixelpapst | so i'll head for bed | 10:18 |
pixelpapst | even though i'm really in the mood to play with ldap some more :-) | 10:18 |
pixelpapst | oki, appended a bit of info to the gobby document | 10:33 |
pixelpapst | just the last 8 lines | 10:33 |
pixelpapst | feel free to paste this into the wiki, otherwise i'll do so later | 10:33 |
pixelpapst | gotta get some sleep first though :) | 10:34 |
pixelpapst | later, and please enjoy the rest of the conf :) | 10:35 |
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ajmitch | nkinder: hi | 10:46 |
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nkinder | hey ajmitch | 10:53 |
ajmitch | nkinder: I've been looking at FDS in cvs, I'm very glad to hear you'll have a beta out so soon | 10:55 |
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nkinder | ajmitch: great! I'd like for us to test the new build-system a bit more and polish a few things with regards to our packaging layout. | 10:57 |
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