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Burgundaviahttp://richmegginson.livejournal.com/4768.html04:01
Burgundavialife is good04:01
nkassi_What does he mean by discrete packaging ? They broke it up in pieces finally ?06:16
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Burgundaviankassi__: seperation of the non-free java stuff from the actual server07:32
nkassiInteresting. Can it function without it ? How does that work out ?07:37
Burgundaviayes07:38
Burgundaviathe java stuff is just a web admin panel07:38
nkassiah nice07:38
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SimonAnibalWow02:54
SimonAnibalhttp://www.tangent.com/news/hecc2006/ <- A conference I'm going to02:55
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whiprushBurgwork: around?08:42
Burgworkwhiprush: nevetr08:43
whiprushheh08:43
whiprushhey, so what would be a feasable way to do this:08:43
whiprushmove the current easyldapserver to something like easyldapserverlongterm or something08:44
ajmitchhello Burgwork08:44
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whiprushand then do easyldapfeisty08:44
whiprushBurgwork: just wanted to run that by you to see what you think08:44
ajmitch(wiki changes)08:44
whiprushbecause the current spec is huge08:44
whiprushand we want to narrow focus for feisty08:44
Burgworkwhiprush: why just make an easyldapserverfeisty spec08:45
whiprushwhy not you mean right?08:45
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Burgworkmake the current spec informational08:45
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Burgworkie: it is information about what we want, not an implementation plan08:45
pixelpapstso if we manage to go with slapd 2.3, could the "-F slapd-config-directory" be turned on by default ?08:46
pixelpapstthen we can play with the dynamic updating stuff whenever it comes up08:47
pixelpapstplus, as bonus: just drop packaged schema files into /etc/ldap/slapd.d/cn=config/cn=schema and they are picked up autumatically :-)08:49
whiprushhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyLDAPServerFeisty08:50
whiprushok08:50
whiprushhere are the gobby notes08:50
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pixelpapstnot sure if somebody's still listening09:22
pixelpapstjust now i tested the upgrade path from pre-2.3 slapd again09:23
pixelpapstwith a moderately complex config file09:23
pixelpapstbasic upgrade path to go from config-file to config-dir:09:24
pixelpapst  # sanity checks (config file present, dir not)09:24
pixelpapst    mkdir /etc/ldap/slapd.d/09:25
pixelpapst  slapcat -f /etc/ldap/slapd.conf -F /etc/ldap/slapd.d/ -b cn=config > /dev/null || die with error09:26
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pixelpapst  mv /etc/ldap/slapd.conf /etc/ldap/slapd.oldconf09:26
pixelpapst  # replace converted standard schema files with canonical copy09:28
pixelpapst  # (optional)09:29
Burgworkwhiprush: packaging for fds will get a lot easier with 1.109:45
whiprushyeah aj was telling me09:46
whiprushBurgwork: I still have no idea how all this works, but I'm glad everyone else does09:46
whiprushheh09:46
Burgworkbut if Sun opensources their Java under a good license09:46
Burgworkthe issues go away, to a certain extent09:46
Burgworkstill good to split the packages09:46
pixelpapstBurgwork: can you make an educated guess on when 1.1 will be released ?09:47
pixelpapst(too late for feisty, i know) :)09:47
Burgworkno idea09:47
Burgwork1.0.4 just came about yesterday09:47
Burgworklikely too late for Feisty09:47
pixelpapstyeah, i saw09:47
pixelpapsttalking about sun and java - appearantly they also want to have their own opensource directory server09:48
pixelpapstbut not based on their old code, but a complete rewrite in java09:49
Burgworkwho does?09:49
pixelpapstsun09:49
Burgworkthat is crack, but meh09:49
pixelpapstack09:49
pixelpapstvapourcrack :-)09:49
Burgworkanybody else here advertised on DW?09:50
pixelpapstDW ?09:51
nkinderpixelpapst, Burgwork:  We're hoping to get a fds 1.1 beta out by the end of the year.09:51
Burgworkdistrowatch09:51
Burgworknkinder: ok, you guys rock. Don't know if that will make Feisty though09:51
nkinderunderstood.09:52
nkinderHow difficult would it to make an Ubuntu native package (it's a .deb, right?) of fds assuming the build-system and dependencies aren't a problem?09:53
nkinderWe would definitely be interested in someone helping to do that.09:54
pixelpapstnkinder: if the build system really does play nice, not very09:55
pixelpapstbut usually it doesn't (nowhere, not trying to bash you guys :-) )09:56
nkinderIt should play nice (./configure; make install)09:56
nkinderI wrote a new build system.09:56
pixelpapstautomake-based ?09:56
nkinderautoconf, automake, autoheader.09:56
pixelpapstyeah, i hate the whole lot of them :-)09:56
nkinderIt's already checked in, but we're working on instance creation and a few layout things still.09:56
pixelpapstbut thanks for putting work into that :-)09:56
nkinderYeah, but they're better than our old system.09:57
Burgworknkinder: the person who has done our packaging is ajmitch09:57
Burgworkboth whiprush and myself are nothing more than admins09:57
nkinderok.  When we finish polishing it, I'll talk with him.09:57
Burgworkthe sooner you can get that working, the sooner it works for us09:58
Burgworkand the less work we have to put into openldap09:58
pixelpapstnkinder: ack, it's horrible on the developer and mostly nice on the packager :)09:58
pixelpapstBurgwork: damn, just as i start pushing my favourite openldap hacks ;-)09:59
nkinderBurgwork:  We hope to have it working by the end of next week.10:00
nkinderThis is for the core directory only.  No admin server or java console.10:01
pixelpapstnkinder: you FDS guys ever been in contact with the Hula crowd ?10:01
nkinderWe've been separating those into different optional packages.10:01
nkinderpixelpapst: Nope.10:01
nkinderI heard a rumor that Hula hasn't been getting much attention as of late.10:01
Burgworknkinder: core is whwat re really care about10:01
Burgworkand your Hula rumour is somewhat correct10:01
pixelpapstas of late == in the last year or in the last month ?10:02
nkinderI haven't followed it,  That's just what I heard.10:03
pixelpapstthe last year was quiet, because all the kewl stuff is happening on a branch10:03
pixelpapstwhich has AFAIK only been packaged for deb/ubuntu10:04
pixelpapstbut there, the LDAP support now kicks ass10:04
pixelpapstalss a bit experimental, but still very pretty10:04
pixelpapstonly i think they are concentrating pretty heavyly on openldap - even eDirectory gets less attention :)10:05
pixelpapstso i hope they get into bed with FDS soon ;-)10:06
pixelpapstbtw its lunchbreak now in mountain view, right ?10:07
nkinderpixelpapst: nope.  I's 1:15 in MV.10:15
pixelpapstack, just looked like that to me from the schedule10:17
pixelpapstanyhow, it's 6:18 am here10:18
pixelpapstso i'll head for bed10:18
pixelpapsteven though i'm really in the mood to play with ldap some more :-)10:18
pixelpapstoki, appended a bit of info to the gobby document10:33
pixelpapstjust the last 8 lines10:33
pixelpapstfeel free to paste this into the wiki, otherwise i'll do so later10:33
pixelpapstgotta get some sleep first though :)10:34
pixelpapstlater, and please enjoy the rest of the conf :)10:35
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ajmitchnkinder: hi10:46
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nkinderhey ajmitch10:53
ajmitchnkinder: I've been looking at FDS in cvs, I'm very glad to hear you'll have a beta out so soon10:55
=== ajmitch is more than happy to work together on getting it packaged
nkinderajmitch: great!  I'd like for us to test the new build-system a bit more and polish a few things with regards to our packaging layout.10:57
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