=== mdke beds === mpt [i=mpt@conference/ubuntuconf/x-87243154d2681cb7] has joined #ubuntu-doc [12:41] LaserJock: You still around? [12:41] yeah [12:42] I just wanted to thank you for helping me out earlier [12:42] I appreciate that [12:46] <_nixternal> if jjesse comes around, and im not here, (trappist as well), i will start working on a ToC for the Feisty KDG that we can start working from...of course, we can change it around and what not, but I was thinking of basing it somewhat off of the book, just Kubuntu style ;) [12:47] fumbalah: no problem, that's what we do here :-) [12:49] LaserJock: Do you mind if I ask a few more questions? I dont want to stick myself to you, I guess I'm just kind of looking for a mentor, if that makes sense [12:49] no problem [12:49] _nixternal is somebody you'll be working with too so maybe he can help as well [12:50] alright, anyone that is willing to "take me under their wing" more or less would be appreciated, as I'm new to the Documentation Side of things [12:54] and you all seem like a friendly bunch to work with already...got good first impressions [12:54] heh [12:54] well we aim to please ;-) [12:55] <_nixternal> im sitting in the uni cafe waiting for some ubuntu chicago guys to show up for some edgy cds [12:55] Nice [12:56] I'm thinking of heading to a RLUG meeting tonight [12:56] <_nixternal> ya, i wish we had a lug meeting tonight [12:56] LaserJock: If I've got suggestions on a certain article, how do I go about suggesting a change?, I read through it but didnt catch on to what I was supposed to do [12:56] <_nixternal> i know the chiglug guys want me to work on some docs for their filesystem they wrote === _nixternal is not interested though [12:57] <_nixternal> fumbalah: is it an actual doc? if so you can make edits, create a patch, and then send it to the mailing list [12:57] alright [12:57] That's what I was wanting to know [12:57] I'll probably be doing a lot of proofreading at first [12:58] <_nixternal> remember though, you should file a bug on launchpad, and if you want to commit a patch, then you can set yourself as the person fixing it as well [12:58] <_nixternal> good way to get that karma ;) [12:59] <_nixternal> actually fumbalah, if you are comfortable with docbook xml and the operating system, you might be better off hopping right in once we start working on the docs for 7.04 [12:59] <_nixternal> i jumped in a little on dapper docs, and jumped all the way in on edgy docs, which was very tough, as time was limited there [12:59] nixternal: I'm comfy with the OS, havent worked too much with Docbook [01:00] <_nixternal> docbook is super easy [01:00] <_nixternal> as a matter of fact, the actual docbook book is free and online [01:00] <_nixternal> i don't have the link here, but you can google it [01:00] <_nixternal> are you familiar with html at all? [01:00] yea [01:00] <_nixternal> docbook rocks a similar structure, but truthfully is much cleaner [01:00] XML right? [01:01] <_nixternal> then we use xslt files, which are templates that mold our html and pdf output [01:01] <_nixternal> yes XML [01:02] nixternal: I think if I work with it I can grasp the general idea. I'm just seeing tiny grammar things mainly when I'm proofreading, but I'd be glad to wait till you all begin work on a new release [01:02] <_nixternal> ya, it is fairly easy to learn, proofreading is very important [01:02] <_nixternal> proofreading was pretty much > /dev/null for edgy sadly [01:03] I'd like to change that, I think good grammar is important [01:03] <_nixternal> it is very important...and i know that the 7.04 docs will rock, especially now that we have an official book backing the project [01:04] nixternal: so at this point, what do I need to do to get involved with 7.04? [01:04] <_nixternal> well, you are lucky, we haven't started, and probably have to schedule a meeting within the next couple of weeks [01:04] <_nixternal> which is good since you want to start [01:05] <_nixternal> it allows you to go through the the trunk docs from the svn repo and see how things work [01:05] Alright [01:07] So should, even if I see small things, correct them and then send it to the mailing list [01:12] <_nixternal> try and find as many as possible, and then send one patch to fix them all, if they are for instance in the Desktop Guide [01:12] Alright [01:12] Its more on one page then a section, but i can do multiple pages at a time [01:13] for instance, replace all instances of "KDE" with "use a real desktop environment" [01:13] lol === mpt [i=mpt@conference/ubuntuconf/x-12fef421ed42a2aa] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Seveas [i=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:16] nixternal: I hate to act really dumb, but once i make the edits, I see how to create the patch, but I didnt think I could checkin/out the svn [01:16] send the diff to the ml, for instance [01:16] <_nixternal> you can checkout from the svn [01:17] <_nixternal> once you make changes, goto the root of the svn repo (trunk) [01:17] <_nixternal> then you can [01:17] <_nixternal> svn diff > blah.diff [01:17] nixternal: Nevermind, I didnt read far enough down the page [01:17] alrighty [01:17] <_nixternal> svn stat first of course to make sure there are adds [01:17] <_nixternal> if you svn stat and see ! or ? then don't do a diff until you get those fixed [01:17] <_nixternal> A, M, D are all fine in a svn stat [01:18] Alright [01:18] I think I understand now [01:19] I believe I will give it a try [01:19] <_nixternal> hehe, no worries, you will get it [01:19] <_nixternal> the operations are fairly easy to learn, and once you have done them a few times you will get it down [01:19] Alright [01:19] I dont want to email something out eventually and look stupid [01:20] <_nixternal> fumbalah: email it to me nixternal@ubuntu.com and i will look at it and help you along with it as well [01:21] nixternal: Alright, thank you [01:21] <_nixternal> i have beend oing this stuff for a while, and i always look stupid doing it ;) [01:21] lol [01:21] It may be to you tonight, it may be tommorow, it depends on if i get this down or not [01:24] Thanks for your help :) [01:26] <_nixternal> no problem [01:26] This is why I like having an offsite shell for IRC [01:26] cause I can get disconnected, but IRC doesnt [01:26] <_nixternal> heh, im using the uni's wifi [01:27] <_nixternal> ya, i use bip which is an irc proxy, and i can connect to it from anywhere w/o ever having to disconnect [01:27] yea, it's nice...irssi makes things wonderful [01:28] <_nixternal> ya, i use irssi when i am mobile, but usually use konversation at home or the office [01:28] ah [01:28] I just have this on the dedicated connection, so I just scrreen it and then use it from wherever [01:30] <_nixternal> ya, with bip i don't even have to do that, which is nice, and i can have 20 irc sessions open and connected to the one [01:30] nixternal: Do I put my name in as contributuing to the article....? [01:30] nice :) [01:31] <_nixternal> hmm..good question [01:31] <_nixternal> i don't know how exactly they manage that section [01:33] I'm editing the about kbuntu page, so...I'll leave my name out for now [01:34] I usually lead that to the doc lead to add [01:34] *leave [01:34] Alright [01:35] Should i still submit it even if i only make a couple of changes with commas and maybe adding things here or there? [01:36] sure, why not :-) [01:36] actually smaller patches are easier to review and apply, IMO [01:36] we don't want to have to look over a 50kb diff [01:40] Alright [01:40] Cause the document is under review, wasnt sure if i should touch it [01:40] just do it :-) [01:40] Alright [01:40] nobody wil scream or yell [01:41] lol [01:41] Thats what i was worried about === bhuvan [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:43] <_nixternal> heh, ya, fix the about Kubuntu page and let me know..i have to repackage the kubuntu-docs like asap [01:43] <_nixternal> fumbalah: are you working from trunk or edgy? [01:44] <_nixternal> if you are working from trunk, the About Kubuntu is going to get wiped [01:44] <_nixternal> we are going to be doing a new type of documentation to work with Ubiquity which will end up being hardcoded in one way or the other [01:46] LaserJock: What does he mean, I'm editing the about page from svn [01:46] fumbalah: what happens is we make a svn branch when we have the doc freeze before a release [01:47] so we created an edgy branch when the edgy docs froze [01:47] we continue working in the trunk of the repo continuously [01:47] I think you got the trunk [01:48] so I should quit editing? [01:48] which is what you want [01:48] oh [01:48] but he also said that About Kubuntu is going to be wiped out [01:48] so if you are working on that then you probably shouldn't bother [01:48] lol, I would choose that section [01:49] of course :-) [01:49] the desktop guide is probably a good choice [01:49] Alright,I'll find some things to proofread in there [01:51] are the irc cloaks project based or are they for users as well? [01:52] hm? [01:52] like. member/ubuntu/username [01:52] the ubuntu/member/ ones? [01:52] yea [01:52] those are for Ubuntu Members === robotgeek [i=venkat@ubuntu/member/robotgeek] has joined #ubuntu-doc [01:53] jordan needs a special cloak for being supar MOTU [01:53] haha [01:53] hello all [01:54] LaserJock: Alrighty, nevermind then :) [01:54] Hi robotgeek [01:54] /ubuntuholic/motu/laserjock [01:54] hey fumbalah [01:54] fumbalah: well, now you need to become a member, right? ;-) [01:54] so, LaserJock ... super motu now? i've been away for quite a while now [01:54] robotgeek: no, no [01:55] crimsun's the only one of those around [01:55] LaserJock: I guess that would be a good idea [01:55] me? pssht. I'm a nobody. Remember my not having a blog? [01:55] whatever [01:55] I don't even have a Ubuntu cloak. [01:55] epitome of nobody :) [01:56] that's because you are bigger then a cloak === fumbalah begins the seventeen year proccess to become a member [01:56] hey now, I think I'm not that fat [01:56] haha, no [01:56] fumbalah: it takes "significant and sustained" contribution to Ubuntu [01:57] LaserJock: I know, I figured that [01:57] fumbalah: basically, work on Ubuntu stuff for a couple months and show that you can play nicely [01:57] Alrighty [01:58] Thank you all for taking me under your wing [01:58] s [01:58] no problem [01:58] thank you very much for being interested in contributing [01:58] it's what makes Ubuntu work [01:59] your welcome :) [01:59] you all have one of the most friendly communities i know [02:00] we try :-) [02:00] Ubuntu doesnt like my wireless card, but other t hen that, It rocks [02:01] fumbalah: what wireless card [02:01] robotgeek: broadcom 4318 [02:01] There are a ton of issues with it [02:02] hmm, isn't that the same as in my laptop. sec (ibook) [02:02] nope, mine is 4306 [02:02] I starting to wonder when the next CC meeting will be. [02:04] CC? [02:04] fumbalah, Community Council [02:05] ah [02:05] it is the group that accept new members [02:05] sorry, kinda new :) [02:05] it is okay, I was new, before too :) [02:06] I am waiting for next meeting to apply for the membership [02:06] ah [02:06] I hope I will "pass" [02:06] Well, hopefully around the time I graduate i'll be able to apply [02:07] which will be like may [02:08] Which would be a good time I think to, cause i'll have gotten a good 6 months experience [02:08] I suggest that you don't think about the membership for now, it not really important until you want commit access [02:09] theCore: Advice taken :) [02:09] I'm new, just trying to learn the ropes [02:09] the best thing to do is simply to help other people [02:10] agreed [02:10] that includes developers and users [02:10] the rest is really only "politics" [02:10] alrighty [02:10] Is there anywhere else I should hang out besides in here and in #kubuntu ? [02:11] it really depends of what you want to do [02:11] a lot of proofreading mostly === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:12] #ubuntu-motu and #ubuntu-bugs are good place to hang out if you want to help developing Ubuntu [02:12] for documentation #ubuntu-doc is the best place [02:12] I pretty much want to deal with documentation, coding has never been my thing [02:13] there's also the mailing lists [02:13] subscribed to the doc one [02:13] so, you're good to go [02:13] Awesome :) [02:14] Thank you all again :) === robotgeek needs to read up to get back into the loop [02:14] I guess I'll dig into the desktop guide after I finish a college essay [02:15] fumbalah, well, it is me that thank you, new people are always welcome [02:16] theCore: I can understand that..To a point, i see people not wanting to sit and just read text [02:17] they certainly want to learn [02:18] yea, I meant like, proofreading/editing, the endusers i know appreciate it [02:20] oh, yeah. [02:20] hmm, how to setup gmail for the mailing list [02:20] *ponders* [02:21] to setup? [02:21] I'm setting up an account for all my mailing list subscriptions [02:23] Google for your domain is nifty [02:23] I like it === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:58] my wisdom teeth stiches are coming out, and its annoying [03:00] you're on IRC while the surgeon is taking your stitches out? [03:00] lol, no, they disolve [03:00] though, if i could be on IRC, that'd be kinda cool === mdke [n=matt@ubuntu/member/mdke] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:04] whee [04:04] actually, everything in trunk fumbalah, is going to be rewritten from scratch [04:06] https://docteam.ubuntu.com/repos/branches/edgy/ would be the current directory in which to file bugs against [04:09] why so? [04:13] why so what? [04:13] that made a ton of sense didn't it [04:14] nixternal: Alright, thanks for letting me know [04:14] everything Kubuntu in trunk will be rewritten...and for good reason...about and release notes will become a new thing for ubiquity, and then a special thing for the website, but will probably be built in the wiki...the desktop guide will be rewritten to remove all of the old stuff and incorporate the book [04:14] ah [04:15] nixternal: Will something be sent out over the mailing list or something when I can start helping out? [04:16] well, im sure we will put out a "meeting minutes" on the list if we have one [04:16] but if you are hanging out here, you shouldn't miss it ;) [04:17] alrighty [04:17] so with the edgy thing I'm filing bugs for...What is gonna happen once they are approved? [04:21] they will hopefully get fixed eventually, but it is hard because of translation stuff...only the english versions will get fixed [04:22] Alright [04:22] but I'm more likely to see changes made once the new documentation is written [04:23] well, when the new documentation is written, hopefully we will have a chapter breakdown, and people can grab a chapter an run maybe..but we will have to see [04:23] right now is the quiet time for the doc team, where we will do side doc work or wiki work until it picks back up [04:24] ah [04:24] right now is the dev summit for ubuntu in california, and after that is complete then we should have a better idea of what is to come [04:24] Alrighty [04:24] Well, I guess I'll just stick around and take whatever is handed to me [04:28] nixternal: Do you have a name so I can list you in my contacts? [04:29] wow [04:29] hahaha [04:29] that has got ot be the dumbest question i've asked [04:29] no, my parents just called me nixternal since 1974 [04:29] ever [04:29] Richard Johnson ;) [04:29] lol [04:29] haha [04:29] *feels idiotic* [04:31] A new email account always feels so empty to me [04:32] hehe [04:32] sign up for bug mail, it won't be empty for long [04:32] lol, that might get a little bit too crowded [04:32] Are their any other mailing list you suggest? [04:33] i think i have about 30 of them in just ubuntu alone [04:33] doc list is good, the *-users lists for support [04:33] -devel lists are good [04:34] then i have debian-docs and kde-docs as well...it is hard to belive, but those 2 lists hardly get email unless someone files a bug [04:36] hmm, I may subscibe to the debian docs list [04:36] Cause I still have a server here running it [04:36] their documentation is very different than ours [04:36] they use Docbook-SGML [04:36] fun stuff [04:36] I've never actually even looked at it [04:37] I pretty much just set debian up out of the box [04:37] I may switch it to the server version of ubuntu at some point [04:39] like here, with Docbook-XML our entities are &entity; and in Docbook-SGML is would be *entity; which causes a bunch of validation issues when you start confusing them [04:39] ah, I think i prefer xml anyway [04:51] nixternal: thanks again for taking me on [04:51] no problem [04:51] glad to have you! [04:53] so I should remove the svn i downloaded from the trunk and download from the more current link yo ugave me [04:56] svn has definetley killed my connection twice [04:57] that is odd [04:57] there is a lot to download, but they are all relatively small files [04:57] Who knows... [04:58] almost finished though [05:04] awesome [05:04] all checked out === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ryanakca [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ryanakca [n=ryan@d226-26-139.home.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === ryanakca [n=ryan@unaffiliated/ryanakca] has joined #ubuntu-doc === nixternal [n=nixterna@ubuntu/member/nixternal] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === _froud_ [n=froud@dsl-242-173-191.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:29] New bug: #71115 in kubuntu-docs (main) "Kubuntu doc wrong , Can't find to setup Thunderbird my default email." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71115 [07:30] hrmm === zen-afk [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:48] for that bug, 71115, it is Dapper...is it alright to fix that in the repos, do a fix committed, and maybe one day the -docs package will get updated in the release? at least maybe the h.u.c site? [07:52] if you've committed the fix already, it's ok to mark it Fix Committed [07:52] once it hits the archives, it is released === zen-afk [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc [07:57] ya i know that, but is it alright for me to make a string fix to the dapper svn? [07:57] i guess so, because i have been doing so to the edgy svn [07:58] and im getting ready to do more === pygi [n=mario@83-131-65-221.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:45] robotgeek: i see you lurking in the LP ;) === ompaul [n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-doc [08:49] I don't think it's possible to "lurk" in the LP === mdke moins === rob burps === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bhuvan_ [n=bhuvan@ubuntu/member/bhuvan] has joined #ubuntu-doc === joachim-n [n=joachim@ACD6B65F.ipt.aol.com] has joined #ubuntu-doc === bojicas [n=bojicas@ner-as21610.alshamil.net.ae] has joined #ubuntu-doc === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === zen-afk [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === fumbalah looks in [01:30] Hows everyone doing this fine morning(well,at least here morning) === dthacker [n=dthacker@ip68-107-232-222.om.om.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-doc === froud_ [n=froud@dsl-242-173-191.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #ubuntu-doc === stelis [n=se@82-71-4-26.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-doc [02:36] good morning [02:37] Hi [02:38] Whats up? [02:38] I'm just avoiding work at the moment [02:38] Nice [02:38] Same here [02:38] :) [02:39] A lot of people are currently at the Developer Summit, so the IRC channels may be a bit quiet ATM [02:39] I figured that [02:40] I think i'll try and go next year [02:40] What do you work on? [02:41] I dont curretly, I'm starting to work on Documentation, but I'd be interested in attending just to learn [02:41] I just started last week myself [02:42] I'm working on the wiki currently, how bout yourself? [02:43] Supposed to be working on the Edubuntu Handbook [02:43] That's what I'm avoiding :) [02:43] lol [02:43] Do you actually work for the project or are you doing what I'm doing and just starting to helpp [02:43] Like you, I'm just a volunteer [02:44] I've been surprised how many key people aren't Canonical employees [02:44] The Wiki is a really good place to start [02:44] yea [02:45] I starterd proofreading actual docs last night, and then I found out what i was proofreading was being rewritten [02:45] :) [02:45] So I just decided to start with the wiki [02:45] Figure i can make a good impression that way [02:46] Yeah, a lot of people are timid about editing popular pages, so they aren't as good as they could be [02:49] yea [02:49] I guess you've found the CategoryCleanup? [02:50] I've looked at it, I'm just working on a tiny page at the moment [02:50] Working on the ipod page [02:51] Cool [02:51] I was in an Apple store last week, but I heard that the new iPods broke Linux support, so I passed [02:52] I havent tried the new ones out yet [02:54] My video works fine though [02:55] How good are the images? [02:56] I wondered whether the CPU etc. would really be up to it [02:56] I havent had a problem at all with it [02:57] So it all pretty much Just Works then? [02:57] yea [02:59] Linux is getting easy these days [03:00] It really is [03:00] I'm starting a new job next week, and actually not looking forward to building my workstation [03:01] It'll be XP and I'll have spend all day on it [03:01] Very nice. What do you do for a living? [03:01] I was an admin, but the new job will be mixed DBA and Web dev work [03:02] Ah [03:02] I'm planning on hoping to go into Sysadmin work after college [03:02] It can be hard to get your first job [03:03] Contacts help a lot [03:03] Everybody wants experienced admins :) [03:03] fumbalah: you really want the pager? [03:04] dthacker: lol, I want to work in the educational sector [03:04] which means at 4, i can turn the pager off [03:04] wise choice, much less 24x7 pressure [03:05] Depends on the institution [03:05] My admin job was at a College === dthacker thinks it's interesting that admins tend to gravitate to docs help [03:05] stellis: good point, I'm thinking of a fellow LUG member who works for a school district [03:05] Yeah, I think it's scratching an itch [03:06] stelis: High school, I have a lot of contact within my school district [03:06] I used to work at a school and it was better [03:07] The hour between 4 and 5 gives the ability to get stuff done [03:07] speaking of work, it's high time I got there. See you around the channel. [03:07] Cheers [03:08] The College runs 8am-8pm and uni are like that too [03:09] fumbalah: Have you looked at Edubuntu? [03:10] I was blown away at how good this could be for schools [03:20] stelis: I plan on it [03:20] brb [03:20] have a meeting === mpt [n=mpt@209.79.152.234] has joined #ubuntu-doc [04:19] good morning again [04:21] Hi [04:24] I thought you were going to work [04:25] I'm still staring out of the window [04:25] This is just not a very interesting bit of documentation [04:26] What are you working on?Specifically [04:26] Customizing the Edubuntu desktop [04:26] e.g. changing the theme, language settings etc. [04:27] Ah [04:27] I think I may setup a machine with that here [04:28] It's well worth it [04:28] It's a thin client system with basically zero setup [04:29] Do I have to have a main server setuop> [04:29] The default installation silently configures all the network services needed for TC [04:30] The only odd requirement is that prefers two NICs [04:30] One for main network and one for the TC network [04:30] It automatically provides DHCP to the TC network [04:30] I'm using VMware to fake a network ATM [04:31] Alright [04:33] I think I'm going to set it u in a mini-lab situation [04:35] Should work pretty well. [04:35] If you use modern PCs they will have PXE network boot support built-in, so you just need to set them to boot from the network in the BIOS. [04:37] Alrighty [04:37] Does it support ldap/active directory authentication [04:37] Ah [04:38] We have 2200 students so we need to be able to use the existing authentication protocol [04:38] You can do that with any Linux distro via Winbind, but the lead developer wants to add more support in Feisty [04:38] ah [04:38] He's very keen to do so, in fact [04:39] Do you have an email address for him? [04:39] The edubuntu-devel mailing list is probably the best point of contact [04:40] Alright [04:40] I just need to be able to prove proof of concept to our LAN Manager [04:40] If you check the archive there was a brief comment [04:40] I see [04:41] yea, he'd be willing to try it [04:41] Cool. [04:41] A lot of managers I know still pull faces when you say "Linux" [04:43] Ours is pretty cool [04:43] We have a lot of custom educational tools written in ruby and a lot of things hooked in with linux [04:44] Woah! [04:45] Yea [04:45] We're pretty cutting edge [04:46] Definitely. [04:46] Where is this, if you don't mind me asking? [04:46] A district in kentucky [04:46] Its more our school then [04:46] like fayette [04:46] wow, that makes no sense [04:47] Its the fayette county school disstrict [04:47] but it is more our specific school in the district [04:48] It does seem to be down to individuals to push for OSS, ATM [04:48] Yea [04:48] Most of us are all about it [04:50] Great. I'm in an area in the UK where the county IT people love it, but my particular employer is lagging behind. [04:50] I was stunned to find a department hacking on Moodle two week ago, though. [04:50] We;re using moodle [04:50] :) [04:50] :) [04:51] It seems to everywhere [04:51] We like it, as do most of our teachers [04:51] These guys hadn't heard of Ubuntu, and knew basically nothing about Linux, but people at some other institution had tipped them off [04:52] (About Moodle) [04:52] ah [04:52] We tried to implement a proprietary LMS, but the vendor fluffed it themselves [04:52] Well, I'm excited to try kubuntu [04:52] edubuntu* [04:53] It doesn't include Moodle, but there is a school management system built-in [04:53] SchoolTool [04:54] Apparently the fact that Moodle uses PHP is a concern [04:54] ah [04:54] I'd love to see it in rails [04:54] just cause rails cuts down on some much of the code [04:55] That's what I was thinking [04:55] Also I like the way that Rails makes installing and maintaining apps easier [04:55] Do you have an email adress in case I have any quesitons? [04:56] I'll hit the mailing list for most [04:57] This is me: https://launchpad.net/people/stuart-ellis [04:57] Feel free to drop by #edubuntu [04:57] Alrighty [04:58] I'm not a dev, but they hang out there [04:58] And I'm on whenever I can [04:58] alright, same here for the most part === mpt [n=mpt@38.99.84.33] has joined #ubuntu-doc [05:00] stelis: If you ever need me to proofread anything please feel free [05:02] Thanks. [05:02] https://launchpad.net/people/brett-meadors [05:02]