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[01:18] not currently === Arrogance [n=aks@ottawa-hs-206-191-39-35.d-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:18] faad2 | 2.0.0+cvs20040908+mp4v2+bmp-0ubuntu3 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/multiverse Sources [01:18] mpd | 0.12.1-1ubuntu1 | http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/universe Sources [01:19] a source package in universe cannot build-depend on binary packages in multiverse. === jsgotangco [n=greatwhi@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:20] so is it a licensing issue? [01:22] potential patent issue is one reason. The real reason is technical, as I just explained. [01:29] gtkpod-aac works around that issue by having the source package duplicated and producing a binary in multiverse, but it's a nasty workaround, and it makes maintaining gtkpod inconvenient. [01:31] yes, it's lovely. With a sharp pointy object. [01:31] Very. === doomsday- [n=doomsday@home.cameuh.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Fujitsu vanquishes gtkpod-aac. === lophyte [n=dsulliva@ubuntu/member/lophyte] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rmjb is now known as rmjb|away === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jrib [n=jasonr@unaffiliated/jrib] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:01] crimsun: if you got more advance notice of when/where the next UDS was could you make it? [02:03] I can't make it in May 2007; I'm already committed [02:03] quite frustrating, since I had hoped to make it to that one === ubuntu_demon [i=depjayds@conference/ubuntuconf/x-026e7feea3f0bb6f] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tomveens [n=tomveens@ztn-c-1566b.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [02:05] crimsun: darn, yeah [02:05] in one of the BOFs they talked about setting the location/date much sooner [02:05] I was hoping that'd give you enough time === Lure_ [i=lure@conference/ubuntuconf/x-36e129b28bc71eab] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=greatwhi@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [i=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === awbassett [n=awbasset@206.135.97.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:34] nice bit o' history in -devel, eh? [02:34] yes. [02:34] crimsun: Heheh, yeah. [02:34] good times, if you were here [02:35] hehe [02:35] i remember how everyone got online on the day of release [02:35] before things got automated === Amaranth [i=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:36] is anyone opposed to Stratagus 2.2 and Invasion: Battle of Survival 2.0 going in universe in Edgy+1? [02:36] they're in beta, they'll be out by release most likely [02:36] not at all, and now's the time to make it get into Feisty. [02:37] (eh, I guess I'm speaking for me and not "anyone"->"everyone") [02:37] they maybe good additions for sure === fernando felt itself an old man reading about she-ra [02:37] well we have BOS and Stratagus, just the current versions [02:38] note currently Invasion: Battle of Survival has like 3 unique maps, 3 types of attackers, and 2 types of vehicles; and 2.0 has like 6 types of vehicles and more assult guys, it's pretty major [02:38] I'm just checking to see if it's ok to throw beta stuff into the dev branch === bluefoxicy will look into that later then, when he's on Feisty. [02:39] bluefoxicy: you are talking about games, right? [02:39] yes [02:40] I think having development branch games in universe is quite all right [02:40] the wesnoth we have in edgy is the development branch [02:40] minghua: Exactly what I was going to say. We often have wesnoth development branches, as far as I know. [02:41] alright. I'll have to test it out to make sure it works (dot dot dot smiley face) but I'll see about getting it uploaded once I'm sitting on Feisty. [02:41] well, unless the current maintainer beats me to it anyway ;P [02:42] Fujitsu: yeah, I mention that because we deliberately reverted wesnoth to stable branch for dapper at the last minute [02:42] Probably a good idea. [02:42] That branch is going stable shortly, I believe. === bluefoxicy has played dev branch of wesnoth on windows, which also currently seems to be a large step up [02:43] yes Wesnoth dev is currently OFFICIALLY rc1 [02:44] yeah, wesnoth 1.2 does look like a good step forward [02:44] (I only looked at screenshots though) [02:44] Wesnoth is probably the best turn based strategy we have right now; BOS is probably the best real time strategy (I don't think anyone's uploaded Glest yet, which looks comparable) [02:44] minghua: I installed the windows version [02:44] So, we need to get people to backport it to Hoary, Breezy, Dapper, and Edgy, while breaking as much stuff as possible. [02:45] minghua: it had a lot more campaigns, I played one on easy and got my ass kicked hard. [02:45] what? no warty backports? :-P [02:45] heh is it really appropriate to backport games [02:46] bluefoxicy: wesnoth? yeah, that's a hard game (to me). I haven't finished a story yet [02:46] ouch [02:46] minghua: I'm still quite fond of Warty, actually [02:47] current stratagus package is brute force debian packaging, no CDBS or anything. [02:47] hah "brute force" [02:47] its a make file [02:47] and debhelper === doomsday- [n=doomsday@home.cameuh.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:47] which is pretty much the standard [02:48] have you read one? CDBS 4 lines -> 100 lines debhelper :P [02:48] (I'm only being slighly absurd) [02:48] i have been packaging for ubuntu since what we just found out was a bit before September 2004 [02:48] I have seen a rules file before [02:48] "what we just found out" [02:49] retroactive temporal injects? [02:49] no, we are chatting about history [02:49] "Nothing happened on October 15, 2003... oh wait, yes, some abstract event just came across the void and added that day to history" [02:49] crimsun: I first installed warty, too. so I suppose it's special to me as well [02:49] crimsun: but do you still have a warty install? [02:50] minghua: it was groundbreaking, as ive already said [02:50] minghua: "of course not!" [02:50] Linux 2.6, GNOME and Utopia came together the way they were menat to be came together in a distro [02:50] and it ruled [02:50] which is of course not-so-crypt for "yes, and I get to keep the pieces" [02:51] I just wish it was more light-weight. [02:51] it? === Fujitsu points bluefoxicy to the spare X hanging on the channel wall. [02:51] Linux 2.6, GNOME and Utopia came together the way they were menat to be came together in a distro [02:51] bhale: it :P [02:52] bhale: unless the distro is male now... or female? ( http://www.aros.org/ ) [02:52] sigh [02:52] what [02:52] i can always count on you to reference sexual deviance [02:53] dude [02:53] I honestly don't mind Ubuntu being "heavier" than $someother, since I have pretty high confidence that I can hand a Dapper CD to $randomschmoe and have it work instead of walking $randomschmoe through asoundconf(1) and fstab(5) [02:53] that's an operating system, it just happens to have a (naked) (furry) female mascot [02:54] also I thought the joke about computer software gender was very tasteful [02:54] it wasnt bad, but it triggered bad memories [02:55] you know, the times I banned you daily [02:55] XD === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:03] sheesh, subversion takes like 2 minutes to compile and an hour to run its test suite === ogra [i=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] the only thing missing from it is solving sudoku puzzles in multiple dimensions via string theory [03:04] I take that as a good sign [03:04] minghua: aren't you just mr. positive? :D [03:04] (the long test run, not the missing sudoku puzzles) [03:05] jdong: well, if you don't want to run the test cases, you can always turn them off [03:05] is that what building the package executes, or is there an even LONGER one? :D [03:05] jdong: (i do know as a backporter your position is sort of different) [03:05] minghua: well, I'm evaluating the package for backporting, I don't have that luxury :D [03:05] and you read my mind :) [03:07] so I said _I_ take it as a good sign, does not necessarily mean you should take it as a good sign too :-P [03:07] speaking of that, is subversion appropriate for backporting? [03:07] My initial reaction was to carefully touch it with a 10 foot pole [03:08] according to subversion's site, minor versions should not change the API except to add new functions [03:08] my general feeling is that subversion is actually rather safe [03:08] and unfortunately the package appears to build cleanly in backports [03:09] not a lot of packages depend on libsvnX [03:10] it doesn't seem like it [03:10] which surprised me [03:10] and if we are talking about a 1.3.x to 1.3.y upgrade, I think it may be okay [03:10] minghua: what they want is a dapper->edgy upgrade [03:10] 1.2.x to 1.3.x [03:11] I'm researching the changelog between the two now [03:11] the real culprit is usually the berkeley DB upgrade [03:11] minghua: did the on-disk layout change between 1.2 and 1.3? [03:11] I know it did between 1.3 and 1.4 [03:11] exactly what I was thinking [03:11] no, definitely earlier than 1.4 [03:11] hmm [03:11] fsfs became default either in 1.2 or 1.3 [03:12] oh [03:12] but that's not a change in on disk layout of preexisting repos [03:12] it's just a change of default [03:12] or you are talking about the work dir layout? [03:12] for new repos [03:12] that's 1.4 I believe [03:13] and thom is right, new subversion can reads old berkely DB repo just fine [03:14] minghua: Sure? I'm pretty sure I had to dump and reimport on an upgrade a few months ago... [03:14] Fujitsu: that's more likely a DB upgrade [03:14] I'd personally like for it to be backwards and forwards compatible [03:14] Keeping Dapper as a consistent platform is nice [03:15] I believe the repo side is backward compatible since 1.0 [03:15] subversion people are quite serious about compatibility [03:15] it appears so [03:15] I'm more worried about the server side [03:15] on the client side, svn checkouts are quite cheap === jdong watches subversion STILL testing [03:16] sheesh === rmjb|away is now known as rmjb [03:29] subversion people are quite serious about compatibility [03:29] tell that to cscvs ;) [03:30] finally! it built [03:31] Mez: cscvs? as in "cscvs is a tool which implements an abstraction layer over CVS constraining it to operations which have atomic changeset semantics"? [03:32] minghua, cscvs is the program which imports SVN/CVS stuff into the supermirror [03:34] Mez: and they have problem with svn repo layouts? [03:35] they have probelm with SVN repos ;) [03:36] I honestly know nothing about svn. I suspect cscvs is not using the public svn API though [03:37] you are not supposed to read other people's raw data file after all === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] hmm. My package midisport-firmware never actually got uploaded, although It was approved for edgy ... [04:17] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=3063 === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:17] I suppose it will be held off until feisty now? [04:25] fbond: of course [04:26] fbond: and no, don't subscribe Scott yet. Pinging him on irc and asking him to look is sufficient. (I'm actually not sure why I was subscribed to that bug...) [04:29] when feisty is out to build on will there be a notice sent out to the ubuntu-motu list? [04:30] it can be built on now [04:30] really? I can generate a pbuilder for it now? [04:31] yes [04:32] crimsun, sorry if I subscribed you inappropriately; I'd been considering you somewhat authoritative on the subject [04:32] np [04:33] I will ping Scott -- he is keybuck, yes? [04:33] yes, but I wouldn't ping him until next week [04:33] ok [04:33] UDS isn't a good time to hope for action [04:33] oh, right ... slipped my mind [04:34] cool, how long does it usually take for the first ... umm... installable version to come out? [04:34] like how edgy had knot1 and so on [04:34] rmjb: meaning a tagged milestone? Depends on the schedule. [04:35] hmm... guess what I'm asking is, I can build for feisty, but if I want to test I should have feisty somewhere... is there a way to install it? [04:35] using deboot, chroot, apt-get install ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard? [04:35] rmjb: create an edgy chroot and dist-upgrade it to feisty [04:36] ah, thanks [04:36] crimsun: Or create a feisty chroot. [04:36] okay I'll have to do that [04:36] or that. I normally don't create new devel chroots until at least the first tagged milestone [04:36] It works fine at the moment. [04:37] where's the common place for chroots? /opt? [04:38] wherever you'd like [04:38] I normally don't have root access on my build machines, so I use ~/pbuilder/ === jdong considers adding a NO_MANGLE=1 option to prevu === jdong just noticed that kernels don't like ~6.10prevu1 in their version :D [04:41] interesting. I would have chosen -0ubuntu0.6.10 . === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:42] ah, the joys of versioning [04:42] crimsun: hmm, what if a 1ubuntu2 already existed? [04:42] then 1ubuntu2.0.6.1.0? [04:43] s/1.0/10/ [04:43] for what package? [04:43] crimsun: just as a general example [04:43] general examples are hard [04:43] crimsun: and the linux-source packages won't like it with that many subversions either [04:44] that's why you use --append-to-version === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:45] jdong: I got beryl working [04:45] almost [04:45] Mez: yay! have a cookie! [04:45] crimsun: you think the ktorrent changes we talked about earlier can go into feisty? [04:45] jdong: cept for that emerald doesnt work [04:45] feisty's open for uploads, right? [04:45] anything goes this early in feisty [04:46] yes [04:46] crimsun: would you be willing to do that? [04:46] or should I find someone else? [04:46] I'd fine w/ uploading it, but I'd rather it be discussed in #kubuntu-devel first with at least sarah and brandon [04:47] crimsun: gotcha, I'll run it past them next time I see em [04:47] they're more familiar w/ its possible regressions than I am (since I'm not a consistent KDE user) [04:47] alright [04:48] upstream's ok with those changes being backported to the 2.0 series [04:48] good evening everybody! [04:49] Hey Toadstool. [04:49] hi Fujitsu [04:49] I've not seen you around these parts for a while. [04:50] I've been very busy at work [04:50] and visited southern California during weekends ;) [04:51] Heheh. [04:52] you're all preparing feisty at UDS-MV? :) [04:52] Oh yes, every one of us is there. [04:53] my sarcasm detector is going off [04:53] we had to sneak Fujitsu in through a carry-on [04:53] heh [04:54] crimsun: hehe, we actually tried that on our robotics team [04:54] we got detained by the TSA for 6 hours === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:57] there's no UniverseFreeze date fixed in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule, it has not been decided yet? === Toadstool is going through the list of UDS-MV specs [04:58] probably not [04:59] I'm guessing it'll be mid-March for universe UVF and early April for universe FF [04:59] perhaps UVF and FF will ably to Universe and Main at the same time [04:59] s/ably/aply [04:59] And it'd better NOT be at the same time as beta. [04:59] yup [04:59] LaserJock: s/a{b,p}ly/apply/ [04:59] *a[bp] ly [05:00] Better. [05:00] yeah, yeah [05:00] trying to eat here [05:00] it would be _great_ if universe froze in early March [05:00] then we could actually do some ... testing? [05:00] do what? :) === Toadstool runs [05:02] I was just thinking `March? Isn't that a bit early?', then I realised we're releasing in April, not June. [05:02] mhm [05:03] UVF was like Jan 28th or something for Dapper [05:04] Aw, don't you guys want another publicity disaster like Edgy? [05:04] I wouldn't call it a "disaster" [05:05] Fujitsu: I wouldn't call it a disaster [05:05] Not quite, but it was getting there. [05:06] `Ubuntu 6.10 upgrades a nightmare' on the top of Slashdot for many an hour... Blogs everywhere... === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:07] that is pretty minor [05:08] Not really. [05:08] I've not seen such things about other distros' upgrades exploding recently. [05:10] oh, wow... universe/multiverse repositories enabled by default? :) [05:11] ...because people don't expect other distros to be upgraded from old version? [05:11] :-P [05:12] seriously though, I honestly don't hear much about upgradability of fedora or suse [05:13] Red Hat always upgraded perfectly, not sure about Fedora, I presume it's similar. [05:13] mhm [05:14] hmm, I think Ubuntu is the first distro I've actually tried upgrading from an existing install [05:15] I admit I did read people saying edgy is "the biggest failure of operating system upgrade since Windows ME to 2000" though, and I do know that's a pretty low standard :-( === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:03] well that's interesting. With Edgy's galeon, loading the yahoo mail beta in a tab results in that tab being refreshed erratically (roughly every 1-2 seconds with that tab's window contents jumping all over the screen). The problem disappears when yahoo mail beta opens in a new window. [06:04] Impressive. === bddebian [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:07] Mwuahahaha [06:07] bling is good :D [06:07] cept for dodgy fonts ;) === adedov [n=bada@gw.nsib.ru] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:16] hi [06:17] where can I get reference what I need to do in order to incorporate my package into distro? 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How u have done that [07:11] oh, thats just some custom init stuff === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:11] see the lsb includes === reggaemanu_ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-124-120.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:18] Lathiat, Where should i see that ..lsb includes . === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:22] Lathiat, custom init stuff .. How do I cutomize my init stuff ...(I hope its init scripts) [07:28] Lathiat, r u there === aBiNg [n=helo_aBi@221.6.29.75] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zen-afk [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:38] Chandu: check one of the init scripts that use it === minghua [n=minghua@ppp-70-247-55-59.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zen-afk [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@137.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:05] Wow that PulseAudio spec is quite ambicious. [08:05] TheMuso: lennart did write avahi [08:06] Burgundavia: Oh ok. Didn't know that. [08:06] along with Lathiat [08:06] Yeah === mlpug [n=user@a84-231-238-186.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #ubuntu-motu === anibal [n=anibal@debian/developer/anibal] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pygi [n=mario@83-131-65-221.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@ubuntu/member/phanatic] has joined #ubuntu-motu [08:47] morning === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chrisj [n=tortoise@209.79.152.253] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cain_ [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cain_ [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rpedro [n=rpedro@87-196-105-48.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=silk@LAubervilliers-151-12-125-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=silk@LAubervilliers-151-12-125-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=silk@LAubervilliers-151-12-125-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mr_pouit [n=silk@LAubervilliers-151-12-125-187.w193-252.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cain_ [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Zdra [n=zdra@7.224-243-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === twilight [n=twilight@ubuntu/member/twilight] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cain_ [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:40] Hobbsee: ping. Gnunet merge updated (bug 66507) [10:40] Malone bug 66507 in gnunet "[DEBDIFF] gnunet: merge new debian version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/66507 [10:41] Jozo-: [10:41] Jozo-: yay [10:42] Jozo-: http://merges.ubuntu.com/g/gnunet/REPORT [10:43] and only hte .1 debdiff is listed there - not the .2 [10:43] ohh, there's the new one, right [10:47] Jozo-: i'd prefer to get someone from the gnome end to sanity-check that... [10:50] that is one heck of a confusing bug report [10:50] so which of these debdiffs should I be ignoring? [10:52] crimsun: Use latest for feisty and ignore rest of them. [10:53] mm, 90% of it is .po [10:53] Jozo-: pbuilt in feisty and confirmed working in a feisty install? === segfault [i=segfault@ubuntu/member/segfault] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:53] the debdiff looks sane [10:54] crimsun: Builds fine. Not tested to install [10:54] please test-upgrade, execute, test-remove, and test-install in a feisty chroot [10:54] Current version in Edgy doesn't even install cleanly. (due but 66467) [10:55] s/but/bug/ [10:55] do you attempt to handle a failed install? [10:55] Do whatever you want with those patches. I'm getting out this mess... [10:55] if not, you should. [10:58] crimsun: there's a hook for that, you knwo :) B91 === reggaemanu__ [n=manu@ARennes-257-1-117-19.w86-210.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:22] crimsun: Thanks. [11:22] np. [11:22] You're up late. [11:23] I have a presentation in 2.5 hours. [11:23] ah [11:23] I dunno how you do it. [11:23] powernaps [11:24] right === jinty [n=jinty@137.Red-83-50-216.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === sistpoty [n=sistpoty@ubuntu/member/sistpoty] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:30] hi folks [11:31] 'lo sistpoty [11:31] hi crimsun [11:31] siretart: I'm at uni right now... in case you go for lunch, please ping me ;) === xerxas [n=R67894@AGrenoble-257-1-37-34.w86-206.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:35] sistpoty: sorry, I'm not at uni today. be there on monday again [11:35] siretart: ah, k... on monday, I won't be there, but on Tuesday === chillywi1ly [n=danielb@CPE-24-209-125-235.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:38] sistpoty: okay, tuesday then. kathrin is at uni on tuesday as well, I think [11:38] :) [11:39] :) [11:41] arf, feisty fonts are ugly today :) === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000fb085cc63.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fernando [n=fernando@unaffiliated/musb] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:54] chantra: they were ugly yesterday too [11:55] just bootup on feisty today [11:59] upgrade libfontenc1 , xfonts-encodings [12:00] chantra: im sure these are not final. [12:04] gnomefreak: yes sure :D [12:04] but the are f***ing annoying to read though === zen-afk [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:05] gonna pack a package and reboot on edgy :) [12:07] i agree but these things happen when you test things. [12:08] gnomefreak: yep i know [12:09] actually, i'm having a better font quality using text based application such as irssi [12:09] i migh surf the net with linx today ;) [12:10] s/linx/links/g === geser [n=michael@dialin106156.justdsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rytmisk [n=irc@155.143.139.95] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _snerge3 [n=snerge@bas9-quebec14-1168087046.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:13] chantra: Remove ttf-arphic-uming, that will fix the font problem. [12:14] The new upstream version of that has a nasty mistake which causes it to be preferred over all others. === _snerge3 [n=snerge@bas9-quebec14-1168087046.dsl.bell.ca] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Time] [12:15] is there a known issue with unrar-free in edgy. not installing? [12:17] Fujitsu: you rock :) [12:17] what is the default ubuntu font though? [12:18] gnomefreak: no, i installed it yesterday [12:18] hmm thats weird. brb === CicalaMvta [n=CicalaMv@h062040154038.bad.cm.kabsi.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=greatwhi@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=Yagisan@doomsday/developer/Yagisan] has joined #ubuntu-motu === chantra feisty got such nice fonts today :) [12:28] wow you're using crack huh [12:28] jsgotangco: It's not crack. It's absolutely fine. [12:28] (for the moment) === rraphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] sure its because it wasn't broken on purpose yet [12:29] hah [12:29] yes, just to make sure that people werent "testing" expecting it all to work === Hobbsee wonders if X gets merged this time? [12:29] .me thought you needed universe enabled to grab from multiverse :( [12:30] gnomefreak: Each section is seperate. [12:30] nahhh but your multiverse stuff might need something from universe chances are high [12:30] yeah im seeing that :( [12:30] he was able to grab java but not unrar-free === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@ubuntu/member/gnomefreak] has joined #ubuntu-motu === _jaldhar [n=jaldhar@c-68-38-202-139.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak hugs Fujitsu for the font workaround :) === guibis [n=guibis@byu181.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Q-FUNK [n=q-funk@dsl-hkigw8-feb1fb00-83.dhcp.inet.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === gnomefreak [n=gnomefre@adsl-144-142-39.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zach [n=zach@213-229-48-187.sdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raffael [n=musouka@88.156.71.141] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jonh_wendell [n=wendell@200216031144.user.veloxzone.com.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:32] guys, i've downloaded a package with apt-get source. How can i rebuild it, i haven't changed anything, i just want to rebuild it [01:32] just debuild command? [01:33] jonh_wendell: yes, or dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot [01:33] Hi fernando, good to see you here! [01:36] i just rebuilt the package. I'll install it. How can i back to ubuntu version after i make my tests? [01:38] apt-get --reinstall install package [01:38] jonh_wendell: apt-get remove package_name [01:39] and install back [01:39] jonh_wendell: geser's way is better :) [01:40] :) [01:43] hi all ! [01:44] i can't upload my package, i received a mail who announced that it's rejected Rejected: [01:44] Signer has no upload rights at all to this distribution. [01:44] Not permitted to upload to the RELEASE pocket in a release in the 'SUPPORTED' state. [01:44] [01:45] You're trying to upload to edgy or dapper? [01:46] steven [01:47] StevenK: i think it's the problem. i i don't where indicate the distribution ... [01:47] i'm trying to upload to dapper. [01:48] Why? [01:48] i don't know where upload to dapper ... [01:49] guibis: you cant just upload things. you need to have someone else upload it after its accepted. [01:50] Even so, uploading to dapper is wrong. [01:50] good point [01:50] ok but why uploading to dapper is wrong ? [01:51] Because Dapper was released in June. [01:51] its stable would be one reason [01:52] oki [01:52] edgy == some what uploadable (still under strict rules) iirc [01:52] oki [01:53] StevenK: is ubuntu getting a welcome center for feisty (like the one being worked on for xubuntu)? [01:53] I have no idea. [01:53] Why would I know? :-) [01:54] dont know i tried though ;) [01:54] gnomefreak: no it isnt. it's still released. [01:55] gnomefreak: it's gotta go thru SRU, just like any stable release [01:55] ah [01:55] so i will concert with someone of ubuntu-fr ... [01:55] thanks === finalbeta [n=finalbet@d5152A68A.access.telenet.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === asabil [n=asabil@sd-4299.dedibox.fr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:28] hi all [02:28] is it possible to request an .deb here ? [02:29] ? [02:30] gtkglext python binding :) [02:30] I didn't succeed in building one myself [02:30] asabil: To request the packaging, add it to the MOTU/Packages/Candidates page [02:31] okey thanks [02:31] there is no express delivery service :D ? [02:32] asabil: put it in http://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/Candidates [02:32] that's what I am doing fernando [02:32] asabil: i can to package it [02:32] :p === luisbg [n=d33p@87.217.147.106] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:37] asabil: A Debian/Ubuntu package for the Python bindings is available at http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=6348&package_id=179437 [02:37] ? [02:37]