[12:51] <LaserJock> RichEd: ping
[01:36] <cbx33> hey Las
[01:36] <cbx33> oh
[01:36] <cbx33> :(
[02:17] <RichEd> pong las
[02:17] <RichEd> cbx33: hey there
[02:19] <cbx33> hey RichEd 
[02:19] <cbx33> howz ti going
[02:19] <cbx33> http://www.progbox.co.uk/wordpress/?p=158
[02:19] <cbx33> hehe
[02:19] <RichEd> well ... we should have 8-10 new features for fiesty :)
[02:20] <cbx33> cool
[02:20] <cbx33> everyone tired?
[02:20] <RichEd> quite knackered now ... about to wind down into the last dinner
[02:24] <RichEd> cbx33: just read the blog ... it's not clear as to what happened to wet the keyboard ?
[02:24] <cbx33> it went in the dishwasher ;)
[02:24] <cbx33> yeh I'll add a little something
[02:25] <RichEd> oh .... and what is the standard recommended drying time for a dishwashed keyboard ?
[02:25] <crimsun> a day
[02:25] <crimsun> probably shorter if you leave it in a warm (not hot), sunny area
[02:26] <crimsun> or you can use the hairdryer method for an hour
[02:26] <cbx33> it was in the airing cupboard.....but that obviously wan't enough ;)
[02:26] <RichEd> oh ... and i hope it was a coffee spil and not some sort of web surfing nocturnal emission that fouled it up in the first place ;)
[02:26] <cbx33> no...just got mucky apparently
[02:26] <cbx33> ;)
[02:26] <cbx33> bbl
[02:26] <RichEd> k
[06:11] <juantao> Hello, do you know of any application that would help a Spanish speaker learn English? ESL for Linux?
[09:00] <pygi> morning all
[11:23] <pygi> highvoltage: poke?
[11:34] <highvoltage> pygi: pongk
[11:34] <pygi> highvoltage: wanna burn multi-session cd? :)
[11:34] <highvoltage> not really.
[11:34] <highvoltage> I want to burn DVD's!@!
[11:34] <highvoltage> ^_^
[11:35] <pygi> uh, well, we didn't implement dvd yet ^_^
[11:35] <highvoltage> yet...
[11:35] <pygi> well, ofcourse :P Everything will be here one day, especially if I can get some books (which I doubt, but oh well)
[11:35] <highvoltage> I can't remember when last I needed to burn a multi-session disc. why do people still do it?
[11:35] <highvoltage> like yellow books and orange books? ;)
[11:36] <pygi> highvoltage: indeed :P
[11:36] <pygi> highvoltage: get me one :P
[11:38] <pygi> highvoltage: actually, entire set of rainbow books is even better =)
[11:38] <pygi> highvoltage: for example, sivang wanna use multi-session for backup storing in HUB
[11:43] <pygi> everything is so quiet
[11:44] <pygi> oh, nice, thanks :P
[11:44] <Kamping_Kaiser> :P
[11:54] <highvoltage> pygi: sorry, busy with other work atm, not meaning to ignore you!
[11:54] <pygi> highvoltage: don't worry ^_^
[11:54] <highvoltage> pygi: isn't the rainbow books publicly available?
[11:54] <highvoltage> or can't you buy them somewhere?
[11:54] <pygi> highvoltage: well, I can probably buy them, but 5000$ is a lot for just red book for example ^_^
[11:55] <highvoltage> wow
[11:55] <highvoltage> perhaps you should get all the pricing and have a fundraiser for all the books.
[11:55] <pygi> heh, I doubt anybody would donate anything :P
[11:56] <highvoltage> a lot of people are interested in libburn, I'm sure many would sponsor
[11:56] <highvoltage> perhaps you could even ask FSF to help out. you might have to call it gnu libburn :)
[11:56] <pygi> lol 
[11:56] <pygi> it's interesting actually, altought many people seem to be interested in libburn, none wants to get involved with anything
[11:57] <highvoltage> I think it might be because the type of people who would be interested in it, are already hectically busy in so many other projects
[11:58] <pygi> dunno really, but it's already going very nice
[11:58] <pygi> but I'm constantly rushing into points where I really need those books
[11:58] <pygi> currently I'm reading MMC specs drafts, and such things which at some points aren't even correct
[12:00] <highvoltage> pygi: if I install a new usplas theme, do you know what I need to do to get it in my initrd too? i installed a new usplash theme but the old one still shows when I boot up.
[12:00] <highvoltage> and somehow i forgot how to use mkinitrd :/
[12:01] <pygi> you can use that tool that Seveas wrote for changing usplash themes
[12:02] <pygi> highvoltage: http://www.kaarsemaker.net/files/Software/usplash-switcher.c
[12:02] <highvoltage> At the time of writing, the cost as per the relevant Philips order form (document no. 28/10/04-3122 783 0027 2) is US$5000.
[12:02] <pygi> update-alternatives and update-initramfs otherwise, I think
[12:02] <highvoltage> omg
[12:03] <pygi> highvoltage: and that is only one book :-/
[12:03] <highvoltage> pygi: aaah, update-initramfs is what I'm looking for, I was still looking for the old fasioned tools
[12:03] <highvoltage> perhaps you should write to philips and explain them what you are working on, and that sending the books to you would be seen as a sponsorship of the project?
[12:04] <highvoltage> while you're at it, ask them to send you a bunch of drives too ;)
[12:04] <pygi> I can try, that's true, but I'm not Joerg or anyone else so I could do that
[12:04] <pygi> Andy and Joerg have access to pre-pre-pre prototype drives, all the specs, etc., etc.
[12:04] <highvoltage> wow
[12:04] <pygi> that's how andy implemented blu ray support :P
[12:04] <highvoltage> geez, that's quite cutting edge.
[12:05] <highvoltage> I think you should perhaps still draw up a budget of the materials you would need.
[12:05] <highvoltage> s/would/do
[12:06] <pygi> I can try yes, but the amount will be rather big
[12:07] <highvoltage> I think you should write philips and if they can't sponsor a copy, then ask if they could at least provide some kind of discount (that would also be seen as sponsorship) and then you could get the remainder somewhere else.
[12:07] <highvoltage> I know these companies are heavy on keeping their specs close to them, but sometimes you're just lucky.
[12:08] <highvoltage> if you have a bunch of philips drives you could also assure them that any philips drive will work well becuase it's been tested.
[12:08] <pygi> indeed, and phillips is especially hard on their lightscribe spec
[12:10] <pygi> we'll see how it goes, but I really hope libburn will mature into something really usable in next couple of years
[12:11] <highvoltage> well, it seems that it might be used to burn cd's over ltsp in the next year or so, that's already a nice application for it, even though a niche application.
[12:11] <pygi> I'm neither as good developer as Andy or Joerg, and I don't have the books, but I'm willing and things are looking nice so far ...
[12:11] <highvoltage> if it could burn dvd's I'd be very happy :)
[12:11] <pygi> right, well same here, but I don't even know which book defines dvd standard :)
[12:12] <pygi> but I hope you'll see it in a year or so 
[12:20] <highvoltage> for sure.
[12:23] <pygi> highvoltage: I'll stop bothering you now, sorry :)
[12:24] <highvoltage> no, no problem. I talk to you while I wait for things to build :)
[12:25] <pygi> highvoltage: oh, oki then ^_^
[12:25] <pygi> I can't build things because my system refuses to sign the packages :-/
[05:18] <bddebian> Heya
[05:18] <highvoltage> hey mr debian
[05:19] <bddebian> Heh, hi highvoltage
[05:21] <jsgotangco> hey whats up
[05:23] <highvoltage> busy hacking ubiquity... not sure if it's more bravery or stupidity that led me to it :
[05:23] <highvoltage> )
[05:25] <jsgotangco> hahaha
[05:25] <bddebian> Hi jsgotangco
[05:26] <jsgotangco> hey bddebian
[05:26] <jsgotangco> so what's happening at UDS now
[05:26] <jsgotangco> heh
[05:28] <highvoltage> UDS still going?
[05:29] <jsgotangco> oh yeah, its saturday already
[05:29] <jsgotangco> hehe
[05:29] <jsgotangco> i forgot
[07:13] <stgraber> My pastebin client script can now handle a lot of different pastebin
[07:13] <highvoltage> :)
[07:13] <highvoltage> link?
[07:14] <stgraber> (and is shorter) :)
[07:15] <stgraber> http://www.stgraber.org/download/projects/pastebin/pastebinit.py
[07:16] <stgraber> I will just have to update the "usages" part because now you can put as second argument the URL of the pastebin
[07:18] <stgraber> My first python script/software, but it's a really easy to use/learn language
[07:19] <highvoltage> nice. how does it work? you pipe something to the script and it pastes it for you?
[07:19] <nixternal> oy
[07:19] <stgraber> two way
[07:19] <stgraber> 1) a command | ./pastebinit -
[07:19] <stgraber> 2) ./pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:20] <stgraber> and it simply returns the URL
[07:20] <stgraber> you can also add as a second argument the URL of a pastebin (the default one is http://ubuntu.pastebin.com)
[07:21] <highvoltage> that looks quite useful.
[07:21] <highvoltage> *especially* when working on thin clients
[07:22] <highvoltage> it's always a hassle redirecting the output to a file first, then scp'ing it to my real machine, and then finally pasting it.
[07:22] <highvoltage> if my thin client is natted, and I have this installed in my chroot, it could be useful.
[07:28] <stgraber> http://www.stgraber.org/download/projects/pastebin/pastebinit_0.3_all.deb
[07:28] <stgraber> The .deb version
[07:46] <willvdl> hey all
[07:48] <highvoltage> hey willvdl 
[07:48] <willvdl> dood. sitting at airport. already bored and haven't even boarded yet
[07:49] <highvoltage> :-/
[07:49] <highvoltage> from where to where?
[07:50] <willvdl> going to San Fran for Allhands
[07:50] <highvoltage> ah, of course.
[07:50] <willvdl> really looking forward to putting faces to names
[07:51] <highvoltage> the real life meetings are quite useful for that :)
[07:51] <highvoltage> and launchpad doesn't do most people justice...
[07:51] <willvdl> true. hackergotchis are also not quite the representative 
[07:52] <willvdl> highvoltage, is there a spot on the edubuntu web where I can get decent sized screenshots?
[07:53] <willvdl> http://www.edubuntu.org/images/tour/*.png ?
[07:54] <highvoltage> probably
[07:54] <highvoltage> i must admit the screenshots are slightly outdated
[07:54] <highvoltage> I took a bunch of screenshots yesterday, some of it would be the same in edubuntu
[07:54] <highvoltage> just a sec...
[07:54] <willvdl> cool
[07:55] <willvdl> well, not really that outdated. they're dapper screenshots...
[07:55] <highvoltage> willvdl: http://www.tuxlab-os.co.za/screenshots
[07:55] <willvdl> shweeeet
[07:55] <highvoltage> that site isn't really launched yet, so it's a bit uncomplete, but the screenshots are from edgy
[07:56] <willvdl> nice, like the rounded edges and drop shadows (a favourate of mine)
[07:58] <willvdl> is that a drupal site?
[07:58] <willvdl> nice theme
[07:59] <highvoltage> yes, drupal site
[08:00] <willvdl> urk. need to find a power point.
[08:02] <highvoltage> what is that?
[08:02] <highvoltage> :)
[08:05] <willvdl> more hamsters more hamster
[08:06] <willvdl> okie outa here.
[08:06] <willvdl> ciao bene
[08:06] <highvoltage> bye
[08:13] <hal9k2010> hello all 
[08:13] <highvoltage> hello hal9k2010 
[08:14] <highvoltage> edubuntugirl: be hal
[08:14] <edubuntugirl> I can feel my mind going...
[08:15] <hal9k2010> need some help with unbuntu in a mac 
[08:16] <hal9k2010> anyone with exp. in instaling enbuntu in a mac ?
[08:18] <stgraber> I have done that several time on a G3 mac
[08:18] <stgraber> maybe I can help
[08:19] <hal9k2010> i have a powerbook wallstreet and i was thinking in trying linux in that mac need info how to do it 
[08:19] <hal9k2010> i will apreciate the help 
[08:20] <hal9k2010> powerbook wallstreet running mac os 8.6 and 64 mgs of ram 
[08:20] <stgraber> ok, what did you try until now ?
[08:22] <hal9k2010> i download from the website the cd data but never mounted in the mac... i transfer the image to this mac i am using now, is a b/w power mac  i dont know what i need for the powerbook to mount the data 
[08:24] <hal9k2010> sorry i am totally ignorant about linux and how to install in the mac 
[08:26] <stgraber> first, do you have a cdrom reader on the mac ?
[08:27] <hal9k2010> if you mean that if i have a cd rom in the powerbook .. yes
[08:28] <hal9k2010> yes i do  have a cd rom 
[08:30] <stgraber> ok, so once you have burned your ubuntu install cdrom (simply burn the image, not extract it on the CD)
[08:31] <stgraber> you should be able to boot it by :
[08:31] <stgraber> Putting the CD in the cdrom reader
[08:31] <stgraber> Shutdown the Mac
[08:31] <stgraber> Power on the mac while pressing the "c" key until the CD-Rom boot
[08:34] <hal9k2010> ok so i need a cd burner...  i guess i have 2 look 4 one now and try that way 
[08:35] <hal9k2010> thanks stgraber... hope works this time 
[10:57] <sbalneav> Afternoon all
[10:57] <pygi> hey sbalneav 
[10:58] <stgraber> hi
[10:58] <pygi> I saw we didn't get a session for ltsp burning
[10:58] <pygi> too bad
[10:58] <pygi> sbalneav: wanted to tell you we implemented multi session support in libburn
[10:58] <pygi> and it freakin' rocks :)
[10:58] <pygi> (dunno if you read planet ubuntu)
[11:50] <pygi> sbalneav, you alive? :P
[11:57] <mario_> edubuntugirl, tell sbalneav I'm very sad that we didn't got the ltsp burning bits session, but oh well, stuff happens. On the other note, -multi now works under -tao in libburn.
[11:57] <edubuntugirl> Righto, mario_!