yalu|joe|: those drivers are gpl!12:11
|joe|yalu: the better for you :)12:12
yaluonly their web site is a bit messy12:12
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|joe|yalu: i was considering brother as well but bought then lexmark e232 ... pcl5e, also no problem12:12
nagyv_is it normal if my wireless card is always sending/receiving packets (led is blinking), although I am not connected to anything?12:13
thingydergringo|afk: This url is in a different language...but the important thing i can make out from it is a change in the configuration file...look at the two source= statements and see if yours are currently set up like this right now http://www.wififorum.pl/ftopic10899.html12:16
yaluheh, it asks the root pwd of another host12:18
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dimsuzhi! for some reason apt-get upgrade want's to downgrade gcc to 4.0 (4.1.2 now). Why? :)12:20
glimmunghi all, been thinking about trying out kubuntu, can anyone tell me about it first? Like will it handle my ipod? what firefox does it have? does it have amarok? are there free servers for me to update from?12:20
dimsuzor they'll co-exist?12:21
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dergringo|afkthingy: thank you very much it worked with wifi0 instead of ath0... but thats a strange thing because "iwconfig" tells me the following: wifi0     no wireless extensions.12:21
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thingydergringo|afk: did the url help then? i couldnt understand what it said...but I saw the smileys in the end of the thread and so assumed that the guy fixed his problem with what the other guy said12:22
ubotukopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 6825 kB, installed size 18932 kB12:22
dimsuzglimmung: it doesn't have firefox by default, but you can install it. And, yes, it has amarok12:22
thingyglimmung: and yes the servers are free and don't know about the ipod since havent tried one12:22
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glimmungwhat would you say is the most positive thing about it?12:23
thingyglimmung: it has a great community www.ubuntuforums.org http://kubuntuforums.net/ and the irc channels are helpful!12:23
glimmungand do you know if they have a firefox 2.0 available?12:23
|joe|dimsuz: cannot tell anything about ipod12:23
dergringo|afkthingy: yes as I said the Interface seems to respond on "wifi0" instead of "ath0"12:24
thingyglimmung: yes it does have ff 2.012:24
thingydergringo|afk: ah ok12:24
glimmunghmm tempting12:24
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dimsuzglimmung: most positive thing: it exists :D12:24
|joe|dimsuz: sorry -> glimmung12:24
dergringo|afkthingy: and that is strange because "iwconfig" tells: wifi0     no wireless extensions.12:24
thingyglimmung: what are you runnning right now?12:24
glimmungits number one on distrowatch, and it seems to have bumped pclinuxos off12:24
Sanneglimmung: here's some stuff to read, if you like: https://help.ubuntu.com/12:24
dergringo|afkthingy: but tnak you :)12:24
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thingydergringo|afk: np12:25
dergringo|afkthingy: thank*12:25
|joe|glimmung: well i think positive is the release cycle as well12:25
thingyglimmung: its been on top of distrowatch for an awfull long time i think12:25
dimsuz|joe|: np :)12:25
glimmungright now Im running pclinuxos, Ive been a hardcore slackware user for about 5 years, but lately just wanna go with freindly user distros, tired of spending hours configuring stuff12:25
dimsuzonce again: for some reason apt-get upgrade want's to downgrade gcc to 4.0 (4.1.2 now). Why? :)12:25
thingyglimmung: pclinuxos has a good community as well or so i heard...since most of its members are adults12:26
thingyglimmung: and help full12:26
|joe|thingy: as #kubuntu is ;-)12:26
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glimmungyeah but pclinuxos is miffing me lately, they are crippling some things to make users pay donations to have access to update servers and I dont like that12:27
|joe|gotta go to bed, half past midnight12:27
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thingyglimmung: hmm12:27
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glimmungwell, I'll give ubuntu a try, but I hate gnome, so I guess I'll get kubuntu12:28
Sanneglimmung: you could try the desktop cd (which is a live cd also) and see how you like the Kubuntu way of doing things.12:28
glimmungwas thinking about it12:28
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thingyglimmung: well if you have questions...post in the forums as well as come ask here depending on how quickly you want it solved12:28
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glimmungis edgy the live cd?12:31
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glimmungubuntu is based on mandriva right?12:31
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu12:32
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Sanneglimmung: no, on Debian: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship12:32
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glimmungbut its a rpm based distro isnt it?12:33
Sanneglimmung: no, deb12:33
glimmungi thought debian packages were called .deb12:33
glimmunghmm, so its a debian12:33
Sanneglimmung: check out packages.ubuntu.com12:33
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lucahi everyone12:36
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lucaanybody knows how to fix a broken swap partition definition in fstab12:36
glimmungso edgy eft is the live cd, and once ive tried it I will have an option to install?12:36
glimmungwhats wrong with it luca?12:37
hyperactivecrondis it possible, with qjackctl, to take output from jack and encode it? for example with lame or whatever?12:37
lucaglimmung: the swap is not mounted12:37
lucabecause it is ill defined12:37
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lucathe definition under blkid and fstab are DIFFERENT12:37
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glimmungubuntu uses grub doesnt it? I would know how to fix your problem with lilo luca12:38
lucaI am using kubuntu...I think I have lilo installed, let me check the system settings12:38
Sanneglimmung: yes, you can install from the desktop/live cd, or you could download the alternate cd which is not live, has a text based installer, but you can use it as a repository (which you can't with the live cd).12:39
glimmungisn't kubuntu just ubuntu with kde default?12:39
hyperactivecrondglimmung: yes12:40
lucauhm yes - but I recalled wrongly to have seen lilo in the system settings12:40
hyperactivecrondluca: lilo is only used by default if you use jfs/xfs12:40
lucawhich is not true12:40
glimmungyeah I think all deb based distros use grub12:40
lucaeh I guess12:40
hyperactivecrondiirc grub and those fses don't mix12:40
lucaany ideas w/out lilo?12:40
lucaor I could install it, it is in the repos - provided it will not cause more mayhem than there is already12:41
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glimmungmy only guess, and this is a wild guess, would be to run makeswap and once its made rerun grub config tool, but that has a chance of trashing everything12:41
lucauhm good12:41
lucamodifying manually the fstab^12:41
glimmungthat might work if you know what youre doing12:41
lucadoes anyone here?12:42
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glimmungbut I think grub config will modify fstab for you12:42
glimmungnot 100% on that though12:42
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shwag~/.bash_profile says "the default umask is set in /etc/login.defs" , but I changed the the UMASK setting in login.defs, and  $ umask , still says 02212:43
glimmungwow, the kubuntu server is fast, I downloaded the disk in 5 minutes12:43
lucatwenty minutes last time12:43
lucaat least for me12:43
Sanneluca: I could paste my fstab swap line, if it would be of any help12:44
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glimmungso does anyone in here have any experience with kubuntu and the ipod?12:44
lucaSanne: maybe, I do not really know :(12:44
Sanneluca: ok, sec12:44
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Sanneluca: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30909/12:46
finalmadciao a tutti12:47
finalmadc' qualche italiano?12:47
Sanneluca: you could paste both your definitions of your swap, maybe we can find out what to do then.12:47
LjL!it | finalmad12:47
ubotufinalmad: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:47
hyperactivecrondis there any way to capture output from jack and direct it to stdout?12:48
lucaSanne: thanks now I will do12:50
Sanneluca: ok12:50
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lucafor the fstab12:52
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osloi looking 4 an app which record my mouse movement & clik and wich can drawing it again12:53
lucafor the blkid12:53
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Sanneluca: uoh... I never saw those UUID entries, I'm afraid it looks to unfamiliar to me to attempt helping you with that. Can somebody else please try to help luca with the swap partition?12:56
lucathanks in any case Sanne :)12:56
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Sanneluca: you're welcome :) Wish I could help more...12:56
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X-Forteany person on/line _12:57
X-Fortei need an help12:57
X-Fortedamian_: you use ubuntu_12:57
damian_you'll need to login as root12:57
damian_and do rm -rf /12:57
Sanneluca: if nobody here knows, you could alsotra to ask in #ubuntu, since I don't think this problem is kubuntu specific.12:57
damian_yeah do that first12:58
damian_X-Forte: rm -rf / is the command12:58
X-Fortedamian_: i am not a beginer of linux12:58
Sannedamian_: stop that!12:58
X-Forteso shit12:58
X-Fortedamian_ is n=damian@ip229-135.outside.westmont.edu (Damian)12:58
X-Fortethis is your ip_12:58
X-Forteyou want to go to ping time out _12:59
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X-Forteso shut up if you do not want that12:59
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HawkwindX-Forte: Enough12:59
X-Fortei need an help12:59
Hawkwinddamian_: Please don't give advice like that12:59
X-ForteHawkwind: any comment_12:59
SanneX-Forte: I'd love to help, but I don't know the answer, sorry01:00
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LjL!language | ralf__01:00
uboturalf__: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.01:00
hyperactivecrondubotu: please tell ralf__ about coc01:00
X-ForteSanne: i want to close the port 21 and 23 but with ip tables are still opened01:00
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X-Forteso if i reciving a icmp flood trough the port 21 or 23 i recivie that ..01:01
nagyvhow I can I connect to an ftp server using konqueror with a username like abcd@efgh + a password?01:01
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SanneX-Forte: oops, I just realized you didn't ask your question before... hehe, sorry. But I don't know about closing your ports either, sorry.01:02
markelhasppl need help to share a printer over a network01:02
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apokryphos__mikem: what's the problem?01:02
lucauhm the #ubuntu channel seems unreachable - I go to the #ubuntu-unregged... o_O01:02
AV_GuySemi-newbie question about Edgy and the generic kernels -- is the older 686_SMP kernel better or worse then the new generic kernel for a P4 3ghz HT?01:02
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Sannenagyv: just type it in the location line like: ftp://user@ftphost01:02
Hawkwindluca: Known issue right now.01:02
__mikemapokryphos nalioth just took care of it01:02
naliothluca: they are telling you what you need to do in #ubuntu-unregged01:03
markelhasalso need help to config ktorrent cant ddl01:03
markelhasany one!?01:03
Sannenagyv: you can also save it to your bookmarks, or create one before connecting.01:03
hyperactivecrondluca: /msg nickserv register01:03
hyperactivecrond!tell markelhas about guidelines01:03
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nagyvSanne: how?01:04
markelhashyperactivecrond: sorry didn't understand01:04
Sannenagyv: the bookmarks?01:04
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hyperactivecrondmarkelhas: it's cool01:04
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markelhashyperactivecrond: can u help me out?01:04
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hyperactivecrond!tell markelhas about samba01:04
nagyvSanne: yes, how can I create one withouth connecting to the site?01:04
markelhashyperactivecrond: !?01:05
hyperactivecrondmarkelhas: that's windows file/printer sharing01:05
markelhashyperactivecrond: nopes printer is on kubuntu and need to share for other kubuntu and windows01:05
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hyperactivecrondmarkelhas: then set up samba. kubuntu can connect. windows can connect.01:06
markelhashyperactivecrond: already installed in this kubuntu01:06
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hyperactivecrondmarkelhas: set up sharing of that printer thru samba01:06
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markelhashyperactivecrond: don't now how to do it01:06
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hyperactivecrond!samba | markelhas01:06
ubotumarkelhas: samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT01:06
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Sannenagyv: here's what I did. Click Bookmarks/Edit Bookmarks, in the new dialog right click on the Bookmark entry and choose "new folder", maybe call it Ftp. Then right click on Ftp and choose "new bookmark", then type in appropriate entries in the fields for Name and Location. Location being the line: ftp://user@ftphost01:08
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nagyvSanne: thanks a lot01:08
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Sannenagyv: you're welcome01:08
naliothX-Forte: you had a question?01:08
naliothX-Forte: you can ask in here01:09
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X-Fortei want to close all ports on linux ..01:11
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X-Forteso configure the firewall of iptables ..01:11
X-Forteand the firewall of shorewall01:11
micktmI've got a problem with the screen resolution in kubuntu01:11
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HawkwindDoesn't shorewall have a GUI to do all of that for you ?01:12
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micktmit should be 1200 x 800...01:12
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micktmbut I can't go beyond 1024 x 76801:12
micktmI've an ATI X700, I've already installed fglrx drivers...01:13
X-ForteHawkwind: no ..it s wih commands01:13
X-Forteso ..01:13
laervianuhm everybody too busy it seems :(01:13
micktmbut i can't remember the command to configure X01:13
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micktmsomeone can tell me it?01:14
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nalioth!tell micktm about xcfg01:14
naliothX-Forte: have you used firestarter ?01:14
X-Fortebut the port is opened ..01:15
X-Fortei have droped the port to all incoming and outging01:15
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naliothX-Forte: i have ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu all installed at the same time, and use the programs that work best for what i do01:18
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WChow can I wiew video on the net if it requires micro media player??01:19
X-Forteso what are the best01:19
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WCwhich package do I need to install?01:19
Hawkwind!codecs | WC01:20
ubotuWC: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:20
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WCHawkwind: I need plug-in for firefox, like I've installed flash!01:21
X-Fortenalioth: i want to know the best in stability of the system01:21
WCdon't need codecs!01:21
naliothX-Forte: you can have all of them installed with no effect on stability01:21
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X-Fortebut i want to use one no more01:21
X-Forteso the best i want to use ..01:21
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X-Fortei use suse but ubuntu i dont know much01:22
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X-Forteit's new ..01:22
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X-Fortein ubuntu 6.10 i have recivied an bugy report and i haved to formatt the hard disk01:24
X-Forteso ..01:24
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wildchildwhen I click on a link to play video, firefox start lookig for plugins and it says: unknown plugin application/x-mplayer2. How can I install plug-in to play video01:27
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paul_does anyone have an internal intel 2200bg that uses kubuntu, im having some trouble configuring it. i can see the ap's but not connect to them, even without security settings enabled01:27
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yaluit works! it wooooooooooorks01:28
Hawkwinddrakan|away: Please don't announce your away messages in public01:28
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Hawkwind!away > drakan|away01:28
nagyvwildchild: there is (at least) a kaffeine and an mplayer plugin, which one do you prefer?01:28
yalubut 600 dpi?? the box mentions 2400x600 dpi... what am I missing?01:28
wildchildonagyv: kaffeine01:29
wildchildwhat's the name of it01:29
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nagyvwildchild: install the kaffeine-mozilla package using adept01:30
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nagyvwildchild: in my case it does not play videos embedded in the browser, but opens up kaffeine for it01:30
nagyvif I remember well, then mplayer has a truly embedded viewer also01:31
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wildchildthan I should install mplayer01:31
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markelhashi ppl01:32
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markelhasi'm trying to share a printer from a desktop (kubuntu) to this kubuntu and a windows machines01:32
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markelhasi've read the papper but can't manage to share it01:33
markelhasany tips!?01:33
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glimmungwell, I downloaded and burned the kubuntu disk, but x wont start01:34
miahey all.  i messed with my drives and the uuid changed for my windows partition...  is that supposed to happen?  i forgot how to get the new one, how does that go?01:34
glimmungit looks like it tries to start kde, but then boots me back out to commandline01:34
ubotusamba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT01:34
Jucato!UUID | mia01:34
ubotumia: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid"01:34
nagyvwildchild: I think it is called mozilla-mplayer, but a search for mplayer inside adept will give you the result for sure01:35
miaubotu: it doesnt have a UUID anymore, can i still mount it with ntfs-3g01:35
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about it doesnt have a UUID anymore, can i still mount it with ntfs-3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:35
miaJucato: that was to you01:35
miaJucato: not to ubotu01:35
Jucatomia: you checked using blkid? all drives are supposed to have UUID's01:35
miamia@mia-desktop:~$ blkid01:36
mia/dev/hda1: TYPE="ntfs"01:36
mia/dev/hda2: UUID="23d8c672-2460-4715-8e5f-a9e306f5a1be" TYPE="swap"01:36
miawell you get the idea01:36
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Jucatoerr... yeah. ntfs doesn't have UUID it seems. hold on01:36
Jucatohm.. that's strange...01:37
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wildchildnagyv:  thx for that but I have new problem: when I click on a link that should play some video it says: firefox doesn't know how to open this adress becouse the protocol (mms) isn't associated with any program.01:37
miaJucato: do i need the uuid to mount it with ntfs-3g?01:37
nagyvwildchild: yes, this is a very nice problem :)01:38
JucatoI'm not familiar with ntfs-3g. but Edgy uses UUID in fstab01:38
miawell i can mount it by hand so lets find out i guess01:38
nagyvwildchild: while I find the answer try to google for the problem01:38
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Jucatomia: "ls -al /dev/disk/by-uuid" to see the UUID's, including the ones for ntfs01:38
Jucatomia: "sudo vol_id -u /dev/partition" will also show you the UUID for a particular partition. so that would be "sudo vol_id -u /dev/hda1"01:39
Jucatonow I have to go. brb :)01:40
miaJucato: thanks its working now01:40
nagyvwildchild: in firefox open the page about:config01:40
nagyvsearch for network.protocol-handler.app.mms01:40
nagyvif you can't find it, then create a new text item with this name01:41
nagyvand give it the value /usr/bin/kaffeine01:41
nagyvas you can see this will hande the mms protocols using kaffeine01:41
nagyvwildchild: you can use the same method for lasfm (amarok), and callto (skype, or else) links ;)01:42
wildchildI am still at finding config folder i firefox :S01:43
wildchildI've cut my finger today :\01:44
wildchildnot whole ...01:44
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dhuvhello all01:47
dhuvI am trying to run alsaconf but it is not in the alsa-utils package that comes with kubuntu edgy01:47
dhuvI am using dpkg -L alsa-utils and notice that alsaconf is not in the output01:48
LjLdhuv: i don't think it's in *any* package actually01:48
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dhuvdoes anybody know how this can be fixed, besides downloading the tar from the alsa-project site01:48
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dhuvLjL: I am having a problem with alsa and the guys in #alsa told me to run that01:48
dhuvbut I cannot :)01:49
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LjLdhuv, i understand, but i don't know what to tell you. alsaconf simply doesn't seem to be shipped in edgy, according to my apt-file01:49
miawhere do i set the default session in kdm?01:50
rahmetlii cant boot into my kubuntu after update,and there were 3 couple of kernels and recovery modes in the grub screen.01:50
dhuvLjL: should I remove that package and install the from the tar?01:51
LjLdhuv, no, i really cannot recommend that. perhaps try installing the tar *in /usr/local/* (or somewhere that's not the root filesystem) and run alsaconf from there01:51
LjLprobably should take care that the versions match01:51
dhuvcan I just compile it and run it without make install?01:52
dhuvshould that work?01:52
Jucatohow about alsamixer? does that do the same thing as alsaconf?01:52
josh__anyone else experiencing difficulty accessing repositories using apt-get update?01:52
LjLdhuv, possibly01:52
dhuvJucato:no, its to set the volume levels, alsaconf is different01:52
dhuvLjL: I will try that, thanks01:53
LjLjosh__, yes, but then they're probably not even the same ones you're using01:53
dhuvby the way is there any reason alsaconf is not part of any pakcages?01:53
josh__LjL, I just want to make sure its not something wrong with my computer01:53
josh__i can access the internet just fine01:53
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LjLjosh__, what kind of errors are you getting? sometimes it's the router (the router's built-in DNS proxy, actually)01:54
LjLbut i'd just try other mirrors first anyway01:54
nagyvwildchild: does it worked?01:54
josh__it's just hanging....   "Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (, connection timed out01:54
dhuvjosh__: did you try going to the url via a browser and see how fast the response is?01:54
Acc\Denyhello ppl. Any on who has experienced Error 24 with grub?01:54
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rahmetlii cant boot into my kubuntu after update,and there were 3 couple of kernels and recovery modes in the grub screen.01:55
Acc\Denyerror 24: attempt to access block outside partition01:55
josh__comes back real quick01:55
josh__from Kongueror01:55
rahmetlishout i reinstall kubuntu or recover?which one is easy?01:55
LjLjosh__, that's the DNS server01:55
miaanyone know how to set the default session in kdm?01:55
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LjLjosh__: the address of us.archive.ubuntu.com is definitely not - i guess your router's of the broken kind01:55
josh__hmm....  Adept hangs too when I try to update from there as well01:55
LjLjosh__, try editing /etc/resolv.conf and settings as your main namserver01:56
LjLdhuv, some googling gave me some hints as to why it's not included, but i couldn't find anything official looking01:56
glimmungso I cant get kubuntu to start01:56
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wildchildnagvy: can't find config file of firefox :S01:57
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josh__hey... that nameserver changed fixed my problems01:57
rahmetlino answer?01:58
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josh__thanks so much for the help!01:58
rahmetlii have downloaded ~700mb for update01:58
rahmetlinow icant boot into kubuntu01:59
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rahmetliwhen i select new kernels it stops with a black screen02:00
Erich-KI have the cedega.deb and it says I need xlibs when I try to install it. But there is nothing called xlibs in synaptic. Where can I get it?02:00
ubotuopera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser02:01
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rahmetlii think i would not have problems after an upgrade in suse02:03
nagyvwildchild: write in the location bar about:config02:03
Erich-KI have the cedega.deb and it says I need xlibs when I try to install it. But there is nothing called xlibs in synaptic. Where can I get it?02:05
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ubotucedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega02:08
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xlibs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:08
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Jucato!xlibs-dev | Erich-K02:09
Schalkendoes kubuntu have multimonitor support?02:09
ubotuxlibs-dev: X Window System client library development files transitional package. In component main, is extra. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB02:09
wildchildnagvy: it only find network.protocol-handler and not the whole line: network.protocol-handler.app.mms02:09
glimmungso what do I do if I cant get kubuntu to even start from live disk? I type startx at the commandline but nothing, and I dont have root password02:09
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Schalkenglimmung: its not starting X when you boot from the cd?02:10
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glimmungit just kicks me to bash prompt02:11
Schalkenglimmung: does it give any specific error?02:11
glimmungusual no server error on 0.002:11
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rahmetLEEi cant boot into my kubuntu after update,and there were 3 couple of kernels and recovery modes in the grub screen.02:11
rahmetLEEwhen i select new kernels it stops with a black screen02:11
Schalkenglimmung: no server error...hmm, try 'check disk for defects' if you havent already02:12
glimmungdid it already, disk was fine02:12
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JucatorahmetLEE: are you using the proprietary ATI or NVIDIA drivers?02:12
SchalkenrahmetLEE: try all the kernels from top down.02:12
markelhasppl how can i add print from kubuntu to a windows machine?02:12
markelhasplz help me out02:13
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rahmetLEEJucato nvidia02:13
wildchildnagvy: thx it's working02:13
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glimmungmarkelhas usually you can go to kde control center, peripherals, printers, admin mode, and add 192.168.1.*02:14
JucatorahmetLEE: you have to make sure that linux-restricted-modules-xxxx for your kernel is also installed or upgraded whenever a new kernel is installed/upgraded02:14
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markelhasglimmung: i've done that and add to my laptop (kubuntu), but in windows machine can't find the printer02:14
glimmungi dont think it really needs to, but if it complains then that usually means that you dont have samba set up or your windows doesnt have the drivers02:15
rahmetLEEJucato i am not an advanced user,now i need an advice,should i recover or install dapper?02:15
glimmungwhat kind of printer is it?02:15
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Firetechhmm, just upgraded (upgrading) to edgy, and now I can't install kdelibs4-dev (and some other kde-dev packages). :( any solution? It might be because of KDE 3.5.5...02:16
JucatorahmetLEE: why? you can still boot into the older kernels that you have right?02:16
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glimmungmarkelhas, is cups running?02:16
rahmetLEEJucato no cant boot into older kerns.02:16
JucatoFiretech: what do you mean by "you can't install"02:16
markelhasglimmung: yes, i think the problems is on the desktop that have the printer02:16
rahmetLEEeverything was ok :( until the upgrade02:17
JucatorahmetLEE: and this was after the kernel upgrade?  you're on Dapper, right?02:17
FiretechJucato: unmet dependencies..02:17
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markelhasglimmung: because in my windows machine i can view the laptop shared folder, but not the desktop share folders02:17
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rahmetLEEi was on dapper,i have upgraded and now i cant boot into any kernel.02:17
glimmungyou wont be able to do any fuile sharing, this trick is for how to share a printer without samba02:18
JucatorahmetLEE: you upgraded to Edgy?02:18
markelhasglimmung: in both cases ask for password, in the desktop can't login02:18
markelhasglimmung: where can i change that!?02:18
rahmetLEEJucato yes i did it via adept updater02:18
markelhasglimmung: samba config?02:18
glimmungif you click allow under config it wont ask for password02:18
JucatorahmetLEE: oh.. not good.02:18
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Jucatothe upgrade instructions for Kubuntu Edgy does not recommend using Adept02:19
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wezlohi folks, does anyone have any idea how to fix bluetooth pairing issues in edgy?02:19
kiloxhi can anyone help with the blank screen problems please02:19
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markelhasglimmung: i'm not following, sorry can u explain better!?02:20
h3sp4wnJucato: That is a simple way to break the system in subtle ways (dist-upgrading with adept)02:20
sascha_Can anyone help me? I'm trying to get access to my windows ntfs partitions. As root isw orks, but i can't open the mounted folder as user. Of courseI changed rights to get access but the shell always tells me : Read-only rights!02:20
glimmungmarkelhas, http://www.pclinuxonline.com/wiki/WindowsPrinterSharingWithoutSamba that is a tutorial for pclinux, but it still works under kubuntu02:20
Jucatoh3sp4wn: dist-upgrading to a new release is problematic. but not plain dist-upgrade. Adept (and Synaptic) uses dist-upgrade in their regular "upgrade" functions02:21
markelhasglimmung: going to check it02:21
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glimmungthe only thing you have to make sure about is that cups is set to start at boot, kde takes care of the rest02:21
rahmetLEEi was happy with my os. :(02:22
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kiloxhi can anyone help with the blank screen problems please02:22
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h3sp4wnJucato: If you are on a stable release - dist-upgrade should never be necessary02:23
wezlokilox, what blank screen problems?02:23
jorge_channel espaol?02:23
Jucato!es | jorge_02:23
ubotujorge_: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:23
Jaseyi like the mac os-style toolbar at the top of my kde session. its nifty to add the clock and various things to it as well. is there any simple way to just widen it a bit to make icons fit inside it better? cheers in advance :)02:23
ericwhat does stable relese mean?that most the bugs are out?02:23
Jucatoh3sp4wn: dunno. I'm just telling it as it is02:23
rahmetLEEif i install a new sys of dapper and upgrade,will i again face with that prob?02:24
JucatoJasey: doesn't it already occupy the whole horizontal space at the top?02:24
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Jucato!upgrade | rahmetLEE02:24
uboturahmetLEE: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)02:24
ericwhats the file name for the mac tool bar?any other cool things like it?02:24
JaseyJucato,  i dont mind horizontally, i mean vertically02:24
JucatorahmetLEE: just follow those instructions02:24
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JucatoJasey: ah make it occupy 2 rows?02:24
sascha_Can anyone help me? I'm trying to get access to my windows ntfs partitions. As root isw orks, but i can't open the mounted folder as user. Of courseI changed rights to get access but the shell always tells me : Read-only rights!02:25
Jaseyim not quite sure 2 rows is what i want.02:25
ericim havuing the same problem with a fat16 part02:25
glimmungsascha_, unless you have samba configured, mounting is about all you can do02:25
mnoirjasey - rt click/configure panel/size02:25
Jaseyi just want it to be slightly wider vertically. icons appear to be cut off 2/3 of the way because they dont fit properly vertically.02:25
Firetechhmm, apt-get lists "xorg" among the packages not used,isn't it quite a bad idea to remove that?02:25
Jaseyits not that kind of panel02:25
ericwhats the name for the mac toolbar?02:26
rahmetLEEwhat do you think about upgrading issues in kubuntu?is it easy in practice02:26
h3sp4wnFiretech: Look what is in it02:26
JucatoFiretech: it might be a metapackage02:26
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h3sp4wnFiretech: Its a completely empty package02:26
Firetechh3sp4wn: it's a metapackage, but I haven't seen it until now in edgy...02:26
JucatorahmetLEE: Dapper to Edgy was quite problematic for some. although some have had some successs02:26
Jaseyits just a setting in Desktop > Behaviour in kcontrol as i know it02:26
wezlorahmetLEE you might want to hold off a bit on the upgrade02:26
Jucatoeric: it's not a separate app. RIght-click on the desktop -> Configure Desktop -> Behavior02:27
Jucatoeric: you should see the options there02:27
sascha_so i need samba for accessing ntfs partitions with non-root users02:27
Jaseyin Menu Bar at Top Of Screen02:27
Jaseynow, initially that menu bar was the correct size for everything. then i restarted my X session and now its a lot thinner that it was.02:28
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JucatoFiretech: if it's a metapackage installed by default, it's best not to remove it, to make updating easier/less problematic02:29
erictum silly question but how can i tell if im running kubuntu or ubuntu?i installed ubuntu then let someone else play with my machine for a while now when it starts up it says ubuntu but the login screen says kubuntu?02:29
FiretechJucato: that's what I meant...02:29
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rahmetLEEi dont want to install suse,i love kubuntu02:29
Jaseythe login screen is unimportant erict02:30
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Jaseyerict: it all depends on whether you have ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop packages installed02:30
erictill check the repos02:30
Jaseyyeah synaptic will be able to tell ya if youve got it :)02:30
Jaseyor adept02:30
rahmetLEEwhat if i dont upgrade to edgy?02:31
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JucatorahmetLEE: no problem there02:31
Jucatojust keep your Dapper updated02:31
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rahmetLEEany security issues?02:32
Jaseyand have a look at backports too02:32
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JucatorahmetLEE: no. Dapper is LTS, meaning it's to be supported with security updates for 3-5 years02:32
erictis it just the kubuntu package i should install,or are theier others?02:32
Jaseyyou dont need to install any02:32
Jaseyyou just need to check which ones ARE installed02:33
Jaseyuse the search feature to look for ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop and see what you have installed right now02:33
erictyeah but im trying to swicth over to kubuntu02:33
Sudo|Faderhvaluhhm how do i mount a device in kubuntu?02:33
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rahmetLEEi had problem with internal speaker on my laptop with that kernel,someone told me it will be fixed with update,i will download new edgy and install :(02:34
erictgpart?or is that just ubuntu02:34
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Jucatoerict: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde02:35
Jaseywell erict, install kubuntu-desktop02:35
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edulixI've installed suspend202:36
edulixand I want to configure powermanager to use it02:36
edulixalso, I want kde to use it02:36
edulixhibernate works fine02:36
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Jaseydid you get the suspend2-userui package?02:37
Firetechedulix: I used it in KDE with powersaved in dapper.02:37
edulixbut it doesn't invoke the correct suspend (suspend2, with command hibernate-ram)02:37
edulixJAsey uhm let me see02:37
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edulixFiretech: I like/prefer power manager :P02:37
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Jaseyerr oh another problem im having is kxdocker complains all of its config files are corrupt :| whats up with that ??02:38
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edulixJasey: installing it02:39
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LjLJasey: that it's broken02:39
LjLedulix, don't bother, it's a known bug02:39
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Jaseyoh, yeah i see on the forums a lot of ppl having that problem with kxdocker in edgy =\02:39
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edulixLjL: ok but it's a bug in kde, in suspend2, or in power manager?02:41
Firetechwish me luck! Gonna reboot after an upgrade to edgy02:41
edulixI can download the source of powermanager and modify the command to execute02:41
LjLedulix: ...uh? i was talking about kxdocker =)02:42
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Jaseyyeah someone on the forums said to try the debian testing version02:43
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erictis it possible to have both kubuntu and ubuntu desktops installed and be able to swicth back and forth at the login?02:47
Jaseyany time you log out, find the Options button and pick a new session02:48
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stodgeHi folks - I need to copy a mini-DVD from my video camera, Any recommandations for a KDE program to do this?02:52
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frenrisHow does one copy a file as root? I want to copy something into /usr/share but the GUI won't let me. I tried using the CLI command sudo cp /home/frenris/Desktop/Wag'sdungeon.mod /usr/share/games/egoboo/modules but that wouldn't work.03:04
draremfrenris:  sudo cp03:05
draremsudo cp /home/....03:05
draremit will prompt for password03:05
frenrisI tried03:05
Jucatofrenris: it's probably not working because of the ' in Wag'sdungeon. try pressing Tab when after you type the "Wag" part so that it will autocomplete with the proper spelling03:05
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Jucatofrenris: something like "sudo cp /home/frenris/Desktop/Wag[Tab]  /usr/share/games/egoboo/modules"03:07
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frenrisalright I tried but it then gave me "cp: omitting directory '/home/frenris/Desktop/Wag\'sdungeon.mod/'"03:14
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Jucatolol! hi Mez! (just greeting. don't want to play :P)03:14
h3sp4wnhas anyone hooked in user-mode-linux into the schroot startup scripts03:14
Jucatofrenris: is Wag'sdungeon a directory?03:15
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frenrisa file03:16
Jucatofrenris: the "/" at the end says otherwise03:17
frenrisya nvm it is a directory03:17
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Jucatofrenris: it would be easier if you just went into that diretory, and "sudo cp * /usr/wherever"03:18
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lucky_uh huh03:20
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erichow do i create a script like this?03:20
lucky_I know how he knows my name now...\03:21
ericyou can also create a small cleaner.sh script witht he following and run it as root)03:21
eric$ sudo -s -H03:21
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eric#cd /usr/share/applications03:21
eric#for i in *.desktop; do \03:21
eric# if ! grep -q ^OnlyShowIn= $i; then \03:21
eric# echo OnlyShowIn=GNOME; >> $i \03:21
eric# fi03:21
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ericwhat program and how do i run it?03:22
Jucato!pastebin | eric03:22
ubotueric: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:22
lucky_so anywayz why was I blocked from #kubuntu-offtopic? Was it because I was cautious about who knew my information03:23
frenrisI tried what you suggested and then it gave me "03:23
frenriscp: omitting directory `gamedat'03:23
frenriscp: omitting directory `objects'03:23
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frenrisand then didn't work03:24
Jucatofrenris: ok this will probably be easier for you. Press Alt+F2, and type in "kdesu konqueror" that will launch Konqueror as root and you can just copy-paste into /usr. BE VERY VERY CAREFUL03:24
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Jucatofrenris: and don't forget to close the window after you're done03:24
Jucatolucky_: no one knows information that you haven't put up yourself03:25
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eric how do i create a script like this?03:25
eric $ sudo -s -H03:25
eric #cd /usr/share/applications03:25
eric #for i in *.desktop; do \03:25
eric # if ! grep -q ^OnlyShowIn= $i; then \03:25
eric # echo OnlyShowIn=GNOME; >> $i \03:25
eric # fi03:25
Jucato!pastebin | eric03:25
ubotueric: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)03:25
ericwhat prgram would i use and how would i run it as root?03:25
Jucatoeric: you can ask in #bash03:26
lucky_well I just found out how he got my info but really he could have kept quiet and why did he have to tell the whole world03:26
Jucatolucky_: if you're so particular about it, follow this simple principle: Don't put up anything online that you don't want to be known.03:27
Jucatolucky_: he didn't need to "tell the whole world". You do that yourself03:27
lucky_I didnt know that it could be seen I am new to this whole thing so how was I supposed to know what people could see or not03:28
Jucatolucky_: you could have asked nicely. which is why you were banned from that channel. you were hysterical and disturbing others03:28
lucky_well I had a good reason too03:29
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Jucatoyou were also trolling03:29
frenrisJucato: thanks a lot, it seems to have worked.03:29
lucky_whats that?03:29
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case1anybody in here know anything about setting up a VNC proxy?03:30
lucky_and how was I trolling again?03:30
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lucvonsomebody help me about kdevelop?03:30
ericwhats my irc window mean when it says no colers allowed?03:31
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ericsomebody gave me a link earlyer about how to install kubuntu anyone know what it was?03:32
Jucatoeric: it means that the channel doesn't allow the use of colors03:32
irvingmexicosomebody speak spanish?03:32
ericlike colered fonts?wierd03:32
Jucato!es | irvingmexico03:32
ubotuirvingmexico: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.03:32
hollywoodb!es | irvingmexico03:32
Jucatoeric: colored fonts *in* the channel.03:32
Jucatoeric:  but you can still have colored fonts that only you can see03:33
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Jucatoeric: this one? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde03:33
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frenrisDoes anyone know any video editing software for linux? E.G. if I wanted to tac an audio file on to a .mov how would I go about doing it?03:41
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Linux_Galoreidentify chatmad3303:44
JucatoLinux_Galore: ooops? :P03:44
Jucatofrenris: kino?03:44
hollywoodbLinux_Galore: put a: /msg nickserv in front of that03:44
JucatoLinux_Galore: better yet, let your IRC client handle it03:44
naliothLinux_Galore: and change your password quickly  :)03:45
Jucatoor if you really must type, never type it in a channel window :)03:45
Jucatohi nalioth!03:45
naliothLinux_Galore: /msg nickserv set password ANOTHER_PASSWORD03:45
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Jucatohurry hurry!! :)03:45
naliothhi Jucato i was feeling lucky and just looked in03:45
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rhodrihi, is there a way to just install specific parts of a package?  my problem is i need to install the restricted-modules package to make my wifi card work, but when i do it stops my ati driver from working for some reason.  so could i just install the wifi driver from this package somehow?  thanks03:49
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nekomatadoes anyone know how to enable https for Firefox in Edgy?03:53
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rhodrienable?  doesn't it just...  work?03:53
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ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:54
rhodriwhat doesn't work?  you can't access https websites?03:54
nekomatasame problem as that guy03:54
rag_hi *03:54
rag_how time for recompile kernel on core duo? about...03:54
frenrisJucato: seems good but lacks .mov support. Guess I'll have to do it on windoze.03:54
ericjust installed kubuntu!love it already03:55
nekomataFirefox doesn't seem to be understanding the https protocol03:55
Jucatofrenris: there might be others. I only know of Kino03:55
hollywoodbfrenris: Cinelerra?03:56
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ericwhat kind of information dofes  a network packet contain?is it whatever info is being sent over the network?like if i sent a text doc and some03:59
ericsomeone packet sniffed tpackets would they be able see my doc?03:59
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markelhashelp me out config ktorrent04:01
markelhascan't ddl faster ther 0.104:01
hollywoodb!enter | markelhas04:02
ubotumarkelhas: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.04:02
unix_infideleric: define be able to see your doc.04:02
markelhashollywoodb: okidoki04:02
unix_infidelwhat's a doc?04:02
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markelhashollywoodb: can u help me out config ktorrent?04:02
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markelhashollywoodb: i've allredy made port frwd, but can't get better then 0.1 kb :(04:03
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SplitzHey is there anyone here who can help me out?04:04
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SplitzHey is there anyone here who can help me out?04:04
unix_infidel!ask | Splitz04:04
markelhasSplitz: in what!?04:04
ubotuSplitz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)04:04
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SplitzIve decied on kubuntu for my first linux installation04:05
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SplitzI just need a little help installing it04:05
Schalkenanyone know why i simple cant install a certain .deb? this is what happens: http://rafb.net/paste/results/q2qq0597.html04:05
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JucatoSchalken: you don't install a .deb with apt-get04:06
JucatoSchalken: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb04:07
SchalkenJucato: ...04:07
SchalkenJucato: hey yeah!04:07
ericim just curius as to do with  packet after ive sniffed them from my network04:07
markelhasany one can help with ktorrent!?04:07
SchalkenJucato: thanks!04:07
ericand waht a packet sniffer does exactly04:07
rhodrimarkelhas: what's the problem?04:07
JucatoSchalken: btw, ubotu is triggered by !, apt (the kde bot) is triggered by ~04:07
ubotuamsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB04:07
Jucatojust make sure you're in the right channel :)04:07
markelhasrhodri: can't get faster them 0.1 kb04:07
SplitzOk, I just want to know how to partion my HDD for this dual boot04:08
SchalkenJucato: so he is :)04:08
markelhasrhodri: seem some firewall protection or something...04:08
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rhodriyeah, sounds like ur router isn't set up properly04:08
markelhasrhodri: i've made the por forwd04:08
rhodrihmm...  and the torrent is a good one?04:09
markelhasrhodri: i've done it so many times....04:09
ericwhats the kubuntu version of wine,does it have one?04:09
SplitzSo can anyone help me with the disk partitioning?04:09
rhodrieric:  wine --version ?04:09
markelhasrhodri: i think so04:09
ericuse gpart04:09
markelhasrhodri: it's from lost season 2 dvd104:09
ericdoes kubuntu have its program for running windows apps?04:10
Jucato!wine | eric04:10
ubotueric: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.04:10
markelhasrhodri: i've many peer but 0.0 kb/s :(04:10
rhodriok, that's prob pretty popular.  i had the same problem with my setup...  have u tried any other torrent clients?04:10
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markelhasrhodri: yap azureus, same thing04:10
markelhasthe torrent client i've used in winxp was utorrent it works very nice, but not for linux :804:11
rhodriu can use this to make sure ur setup is ok: http://btfaq.com/natcheck.pl04:11
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markelhasrhodri: how can i get the has of the torrent?04:12
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rhodriumm... i don't know how with ktorrent... u still have azureus installed?  i think that will tell u pretty easily04:14
markelhasrhodri: removed it04:14
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markelhasrhodri: can't understand why the port fordw isn't working04:17
rhodriok, well install the bittorrent package: sudo dpkg --install bittorrent, then use btshowmetainfo04:17
markelhasrhodri: "Successfully connected, but didn't get proper a BitTorrent client response. Make sure you entered a correct hash ID that corresponds to the active torrent on your system. Most likely, your network is properly configured, but repeat this test with a valid hash ID to be sure. "04:17
rhodrihmm. ok...04:18
rhodriwell, maybe if i tell u my problem and it might help?04:18
markelhasrhodri: should i install bittorrent?04:19
rhodrina don't bother04:19
markelhasrhodri: oki04:20
markelhasrhodri: any ideia!?04:20
rhodrii can't access the admin on my router and was having the same problem as you.  so i guessed that maybe the router would let through port 80, so i ran ktorrent as root to connect to port 80 and then everything was sweet, so that's what i do.04:20
rhodribut maybe that wasn't the problem, if ur having the same thing04:20
rhodritry running ktorrent as root and connect to 80 maybe?  just for a test?04:21
markelhasrhodri: how can i run it as root?04:22
rhodriopen a terminal and type: sudo ktorrent, that should do it04:22
markelhasgot error04:23
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markelhasrhodri: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16604:24
rhodrieekk...  *no idea*...  what about if u just run ktorrent from cmdline?04:24
Linux_Galore?? you dont need to use sudo to run ktorrent04:25
markelhasrhodri: nothing appens!!!!04:25
rhodrinothing?  is ktorrent already running?04:25
markelhasLinux_Galore: i cant connect faster than 0.1 kbs04:25
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Kiongkuwhats the command to view system processes in konsole?04:25
Linux_Galoremarkelhas: check you firewall rules04:26
markelhasrhodri: nop04:26
markelhasLinux_Galore: i've do taht04:26
Linux_Galoremarkelhas: I suspect you have some closed ports04:26
markelhasLinux_Galore: i've set firewall settings many times04:26
rhodriand you're sure *nothing* happens, there is no ktorrent in ur systray?04:26
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Linux_Galoremarkelhas: turn the firewall off and see what happens, also make sure you set your "down" speed to unlimited"04:27
markelhasLinux_Galore: turn off firewall, i've a router04:27
Linux_Galoremarkelhas: turn the firewall of on the machine were the client resides04:28
Linux_Galoremarkelhas: also make sure upnp is enabled on the router and and port 6881 is forwarded to you main machine04:29
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klerfaytnext ubuntu release is going to have kde 3.5...?04:34
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Linux_Galoreklerfayt: 3.5.604:34
Linux_Galoreklerfayt: 3.5.5 is stable04:35
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klerfaytLinux_Galore: there won't be kde 3.6, ever?04:35
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Linux_Galoreklerfayt: doubt it kde 4 beta is due out in a few weeks04:36
vieiraso any ideias about the ktorrent client!?04:36
vieiraLinux_Galore: !?04:36
Linux_Galorevieira: about what04:36
vieiraLinux_Galore: i can't the faster then 0.1 kb04:37
Linux_Galorevieira: then you have a network issue its that simple04:37
vieiraLinux_Galore: u said to turn off firewall, dos kubutu have one?04:38
Linux_Galorevieira: no not by default04:38
Linux_Galorevieira: because it doesnt have any services turned on04:38
vieiraLinux_Galore: oki i know that there is a issue, but do u have a ideia how can i solve it?04:38
Linux_Galorevieira: did you set port forwarding ofr port 6881 on the router to the machine running ktorrent04:39
Linux_Galorevieira: and turn on upnp04:39
vieirait's a kubuntu problem maybe, cause i didn't have this one in windows...04:39
vieiraLinux_Galore: yes i did04:39
Linux_Galorevieira: no I suspect the windows client has changed the firewall settings04:40
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vieirawindows !?! client?04:40
Linux_Galorevieira: I use azureus in Linux I found korrent a bit slow04:40
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vieiraLinux_Galore: i've also installed azureus samething04:41
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Linux_Galorevieira: sudo apt-get install azureus04:41
duckyopenoffice loads _very_ slowly in kubuntu, but is fast in reg ubuntu04:41
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Linux_Galorevieira: Ive got azureus now and torrenting @ 420kb/s04:41
duckydoes anyone know why this is?04:41
Th3_Cr0up13Rheloo there04:41
Th3_Cr0up13Rhow is things04:42
vieiraLinux_Galore: oki i'll install again04:42
Linux_Galoreducky: install koffice04:42
vieiraLinux_Galore: its ports sould i forwd to azureus!?04:42
Th3_Cr0up13Rwhen you mount the dvd in ubuntu you go "mount /dev/hdd " or mount /mnt/cdrom04:43
Linux_Galoreducky: or install oooqs  to speed openoffice up04:43
duckyLinux_Galore: is it completely cross-compatible with open-office?04:43
Linux_Galoreduck yes04:43
Linux_Galoreducky both use the ODF file formats04:43
Th3_Cr0up13Rbecause my dvd does not recognise the movie dvds and i got the libdvd installed04:43
duckyLinux_Galore: My sister is using it for her wedding planning and letters and so it needs to be predictable04:43
vieiraLinux_Galore: i've made the test 42955 port and stauts ok04:44
Linux_Galorevieira: port 6881 is the default04:44
Linux_Galorevieira: if you set it to anything else it wont work04:44
vieirabut in the wizard tested in that one04:44
duckykubuntu in general seems quite a bit slower than gnome04:44
vieiraLinux_Galore: ok should i change it?04:45
Linux_Galorevieira: then ignore me and I will happily tell you this again in 4 minutes04:45
Linux_Galoreducky: faster for me04:45
vieiraLinux_Galore: :(04:45
Linux_Galoreducky: pretty strange consiering that Ubuntu uses more ram than kubuntu04:46
vieiraesting port 6881 ... Unable to test: Invalid port given, or test service failed.04:46
vieiraAnother application may already be using this port.04:46
Linux_Galorevieira: tells me you didnt set port forwarding on your router for 688104:46
duckyLinux_Galore:yes indeed04:46
Linux_Galoreducky machines dont lie04:47
Linux_Galoreif you did it would work04:47
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vieiraLinux_Galore: yes i did04:47
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Linux_Galorevieira: then explain why both ktorrent and azureus cant torrent on the default port 688104:48
Linux_Galoreon your setup04:48
tony__hello, im trying to install a php script on my server. i get this error, .:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear    what this means ?04:48
Linux_Galorevieira: and you have no firewall running on the PC so the only thing left is the router04:49
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vieiraLinux_Galore: the ktorrent was open , i kill it on shell04:49
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vieiraLinux_Galore: going to run az04:50
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stefan_may anyone help me with a linux problem04:50
tony__hello, im trying to install a php script on my server. i get this error, .:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear    what this means ?04:51
stefan_trying to call a php function get_file_contents and it echoes permission denied, anyway the file to le read is 77704:52
stefan_any explanation ?04:52
vieiraLinux_Galore: 0,0 B/s :(04:52
tony__i set the files to 777 .. but still get the error ..04:52
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vieiraLinux_Galore: going to get other torrent04:53
tony__i will try again04:53
vieiraLinux_Galore: do u have one working torrent?04:53
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willyalguien me ayuda05:06
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willyquiero instalar los super tux05:06
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estigmaalguien me puede ayudar05:07
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:07
estigmanecesito instalar super tux05:07
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Schalkenis there a way to have adept (run as root) use your kde appearance configuration?05:18
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JucatoSchalken: run system settings as root and change the appearance to match your users theme/appearance05:19
SchalkenJucato: cant i just make it refer to my settings somehow instead?05:19
Schalkensymlinks? :P05:20
Jucatoum... probably, but your symlinks would be useless if you suddenly change themes/settings05:20
SchalkenJucato: why, wouldnt they still point to my settings, changed or not?05:21
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Jucatohm... not really sure05:21
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ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:29
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klerfaytwhat's wrong with konsole transparency schemes?05:33
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equilibriumklerfayt: can you be more specific?05:35
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klerfaytequilibrium: konsole comes with a few trasparent colorschemes, but they don't work05:41
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jon_is anyone familiar with kopete?05:43
dragonfly7jon: I know of it, and have used it. Why?05:44
jon_im trying to view a webcam, but i cant get it to work05:46
dragonfly7Yeah, I doubt I can help you. Sorry.05:47
jon_thats okay05:47
equilibriumok I have an odd one, all the little default system sounds work but I get no sound with okle05:50
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equilibriumanyone have an idea why one set of sounds should work but not the dvd audio?05:50
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dude_abattoir !05:57
dude_jucato !05:57
Jucatodude_: sssshhh he's busy :P05:57
dude_hi guys05:57
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abattoirhello dude_06:01
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bsnideranybody here using a hauppauge remote?06:05
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cpk1alright guys i think i might have i serious problem, my ethernet on my desktop died when i brought to a lan just now06:10
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HyperNexusCan anyone suggest a program for me to use to record video and sound from my webcam06:22
Nukedill take a look and see what I can come up with06:24
HyperNexusThank you.06:25
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NukedHyperNexus: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/camstream/06:32
Nukedbut ill keep looking06:33
HyperNexusokay thank you06:33
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Nukedgqcam - GTK Webcam control06:35
Nukedand camstream is in the repos06:35
Nukedalong with gqcam06:35
HyperNexusthank you very much for your help06:35
NukedI hope that it was useful06:36
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Nukedthat went well..06:36
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NukedEnjoy it!06:48
espantoI intend to06:48
Nukedah! well then!06:48
espantohey do you think u can help me out?06:49
NukedI can always try.. no guarantees though06:49
espantogreat.. well i wanna know...06:49
Nukedah! thats easy06:49
Nukedthe answer is...06:49
espantoi would have never guessed06:50
Nukedbut if you are desperate, its 606:50
espantotru tru06:50
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espantoreally tho, can u teach me this linux stuff?06:51
espantolike how do i install suff?06:51
Nukedis there a specific area which you want to learn... i.e. networking, programming, downloading the best porn...06:51
Nukedespanto thats simple enough dude06:51
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Nukedwhat are you using? dapper, edgy ...06:52
Nukedah no problems06:52
Nukedhave you enabled all the repos?06:52
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:52
tukoi have a question ...06:52
Nukedespanto ill be here06:53
tukoa awfull problem06:53
Nukedtuko shoot... let me guess.....06:53
tukoi hava dapper amd6406:53
tukoim triying to set up my dial up modem06:53
tukoi found, this slmodemd driver..06:53
tukohere came the problem06:54
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tukowhen i run scanmodem ..06:54
tukoit tell me to do06:54
tukoslmodem -alsa modem:106:54
tukobut it doesnt work06:55
tukosorry about my english06:55
tukoit works with hw:006:55
tukobut this is confusing...06:55
Nukedwell, have you tried sudo before the command?06:55
tukojejeje of course06:56
tukowhen i run wvdialconf it detects the modem06:56
tukotects is rigth said?06:56
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.06:56
Nukedbut I dont know why it doesnt detect the modem06:57
tukojeje thanku06:57
tukothank you06:57
Nukedill try google06:57
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tukoi tryed it before :(06:57
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tukowith hw:0 it detect the modem06:58
tukothe problem is when i run wvdial..06:58
tukothen cames the no carrier error06:58
Nukedtuko I may have found something06:59
tukoshow me06:59
Nukedsee what you can make of thaty07:00
Nukedeven though its for gentoo07:00
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tukosnd-intel8x0m jeje thats mine07:01
NukedI hope it at least points you in the right direction07:01
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tukothere is something new!07:05
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tukoNuked: look07:06
tukocd /usr/src/linux07:06
tukoit means i need the sources?07:06
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tukoI only have the headers...07:07
Nukedtry it07:07
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espantook Nuked, im back, teach time...07:09
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tukooh :(07:09
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Nukedespanto no problemo07:10
Nukeddo me a favor07:10
Nukedshow me your sources.list07:10
Jucato!pastebin | espanto07:10
ubotuespanto: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)07:10
Nukedjucato I was getting there :)07:11
JucatoI was faster :P07:11
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espantook.. the sources.list is were? and what is it? (like i said, im omega newb and I wanna learn)07:12
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Nukedsudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list07:12
Nukedcopy and paste everything at the pastebin address07:13
JucatoNuked: unless he's in Ubuntu, that should be kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:13
Nukedthanks again07:13
espanto(K)ubuntu is what i have07:13
espantois that the same?07:13
Nukednot exactly07:14
Jucatoespanto: if you're using Kubuntu, do "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"07:14
Nukedso kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list07:14
espantook it asked for my pw, i put it in and now i have teh sources window07:15
espantonow wat?07:15
Nukedcopy and paste07:15
Nukedinto pastebing07:15
espantookey dokey07:15
Nukedafter you paste it, and send it show me the link07:16
espantois that right07:16
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Nukedespanto whats that wine one?07:18
Nukedim unfamiliar with that repo07:18
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espantoteh wine is for runnig windows stuff07:19
espantothe .exe07:19
JJasonJ21'Scuse the interruption, but is Scribus primarily a KDE app? 'Cause I'm having problems on Dapper / Gnome.07:19
nrdbI am using ubuntu I am trying to compile a kde app, ./configure is saying "checking for KDE... configure: error:" as far as I can tell it is looking for the directory that contains the kde header files. which package are these in?07:19
Nukedespanto edit it out so that it looks like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30940/07:20
jon_my cd drive randomly ejects cds07:20
Nukednrdb try --prefix=$KDEDIR07:20
jon_is it a hardware or software issue?07:20
jon_i tried plugging in a different one, but apparently its not plug and play07:20
Nukedjon_:  thats weird as hell and I dont even know where to start answering07:21
jon_do i have to set it up?07:21
nrdbNuked: ok but which package has the kde includes I don't have a KDEDIR07:21
Nukedkdedir is just linking it to wherever kde is07:21
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nrdbNuked: I know but where do I get it from ?07:22
dhqin forums how are the passwords stored07:22
jon_well if i swap cd drives, do i have to change anything in the bios or something?07:22
espantoedit the text?.. or wat?07:22
Nukededit the text espanto07:22
espantoi knew that07:22
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Nukedbasically remove the # from the areas that I showed you07:22
Nukedthen type in konsole sudo apt-get update07:23
espantoyeah..i knew that... :)07:23
Dr_willisHmm.. ive seen where a cd rom/dvd can be set to auto-eject the disk when the disk is unmounted.07:23
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jon_it just ejects when i use it07:23
jon_after oh say....45 seconds07:23
jon_without fail07:23
jon_in the middle of looking for something07:23
nrdbNuked: yes07:23
Nukednrdb /usr/include/kde07:24
jon_how can i install the new one tho?07:24
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jon_do i have to unmount the old one and mount a new one or what?07:24
Dr_willisjon_,  unplug the old.. double check jumpers on new.. plug it in..07:24
Dr_willisjon_,  thers nothing complex to it.07:24
Dr_willisYou need to power OFF the machine and change the cdrom drives.07:24
jon_thats what i figured but it didnt recognize the new one07:25
Dr_willisunplug it from the wall also...07:25
jon_of course i restarted it07:25
nrdbNuked: but which package has the /usr/include/kde files in it I have no /usr/include/kde directory07:25
Dr_willisI would guess ya dident get a cable in right.. or jumpers are wrong.07:25
jon_hmm ill check the jumpers07:25
espantook Nuked... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30941/ there it is07:25
Nukedwhat are you running nrdb? dapper?07:25
jon_du h07:25
jon_its on slave07:25
Dr_willisjon_,  i always set things to 'cs' for cable select.07:25
nrdbubuntu 6.0607:25
Nukednrdb do whereis kde07:26
jon_me too07:26
jon_i just forgot to look07:26
jon_someone gave this one to me07:26
jon_i didnt think they had it slaved to anything07:26
jon_dr_willis, can you give me some advice on installing an nvidia card07:26
jon_currently i have onboard07:26
Nukedlmao espanto you overdid it but its my fault07:26
nrdbNuked: return "kde:"07:27
Dr_willisplug it in.. follow the !nvidia wiki07:27
Dr_willistakes me about 3 min to get mine going on a new install jon_07:27
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:27
Nukednrdb do you have kubuntu installed?07:27
nrdbNuked: I have said twice that I am using ubuntu!07:27
Nukedtake it easy thats your problem you need to install kde07:28
nrdbNuked: I would very much like not install 100s Mbyte of programs just to get some header files.07:28
Nukednrdb be easy, im in the process of looking for the package07:29
jon_do i have to disable the onboard video on restart07:29
jon_because im pretty sure i already got the package07:29
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jon_but upon restart i had nothing on the screen07:29
Nukednrdb try kdebase07:30
Dr_willisjon_,  one way to find out.. :P bios settigs to disable it.. and  set agp or whatever to be the default..   you see the post/bootup messages?07:30
Dr_willisjon_,  dont do like i did.. and forget to plug the monitor into the right video conector. :)07:30
Dr_willistook me an hr to trouble shoot that. heh .07:30
Nukedespanto just copy http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30940/ minus all the numbers07:30
jon_no im not sure what its called in bios07:31
jon_or where its at07:31
Dr_willisi put tape over the 'onboard' conectors :)07:31
nrdbNuked: both 'kdebase' and 'kdebase-dev' what to install many programs etc as well.07:31
Nukedthose are the base files, and I dont see what else you can install to give you the bare minimum07:32
Nukedsee for yourself07:32
nrdbNuked: kate as an example07:32
Nukedsudo apt-cache search kde07:32
jon_im gonna give it a shot07:33
Nukedespanto buddy how's it going07:33
espantoI am uber lost07:34
espantosome one hold me...07:34
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espantois taht right now Nuked?07:34
Nukedespanto excellent07:35
Nukedsave it07:35
espantoheck yes07:35
Nukedthen close07:35
Nukedthen open konsole07:35
Nukedtype in it sudo apt-get update07:35
espantonothing happend07:36
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Nukedlook at the konsole outpid07:37
Nukedthere should be links galore there07:37
Nukeddid you run         sudo apt-get update        in konsole?07:38
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espantonothing happens07:38
Nukedcopy and paste everything in konsole to pastebin07:38
espantoi aloso tried kdesu instead of sudo but that did nothing too07:39
Nukedit did something I guarantee it07:39
jon_how do i know what version of linux-restricted-modules to install07:39
jon_more exactly, how do i know what module matches my kernel?07:39
Nukedit updated the list of packages so that you get the newest ones. You need to tell it what to install07:39
Nukedjon_: uname -a07:39
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Nukedthat tells you all the information about your kernel07:40
espantowell the kdesu one asked for my PW and when i gave it nothing happend (that i can see)07:40
NukedI told you to run it in konsole07:40
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digivorewhats the file that i can setup my network settings automatically ?07:40
Nukednrdb use apt-cache search and find something better07:40
Dr_willisnrdb,  cant say taht ive ever noticed the  problem.. :)07:41
Dr_willisof course i got Gigabytes of drive space.. so i dont worry about it much. :)07:41
nrdbNuked: there doesn't seem to be.07:41
Nukedthats my point07:41
Nukedclick on an empty area of your screen and press alt and f2. a small window should pop up07:41
Nukedespanto do that07:42
Nukedand type in konsole07:42
espantotype wat?07:42
espantoteh kdesu stuff?07:42
Nukeddont kdesu unless I specifically tell you to07:42
Nukeddid you press alt and f2?07:43
nrdbDr_willis: just try and get the kde header files, you will need to download many other things 'kate' 'arts' etc.07:43
Nukeddid the window pop up?07:43
Nukeda small window07:43
Nukedin the blank space type konsole07:44
Nukedand hit enter07:44
espantotight... ok07:44
Nukedanother window should pop up07:44
Nukedits all black07:44
Nukedtype in sudo apt-get update07:44
Nukedand hit enter07:44
nrdbNuked: Dr_willis: looks like I need to install KDE to a VM just to get the header files I need to compile a program.07:44
SpAwNhmm i did a updat && upgrade and now my firefox doesnt have any video plugins...even though there installed07:45
espantookey dokey Nuked... buch of stuff popped out07:45
Nukedthats great!07:45
espantoHECK YES07:45
SpAwNmy mplayer will still play video files on my hdd07:46
Nukedthats updating the list of available packages for you to install07:46
SpAwNbut it doesnt work in firefox07:46
Nukedso you get the latest stuff07:46
Nukedin that same black window07:46
Nukedtype in sudo apt-get dist-upgrade07:46
Nukedthat will update all the packages on your computer07:46
espantoit asked to continue07:47
Nukeddo it07:47
Nukedtype in y and then hit enter07:47
Nukedthat will bring your sh** up to date07:48
Nukedthen we can get to the good stuff07:48
espantodamn straight07:48
Nukedhas it completed yet?07:48
Nukednow what do you want to install there, buddy07:48
espantowell wat should i get?07:49
Nukedwhat type of program07:49
Nukeddepends on what you want to be able to do with your computer07:49
espantoEVERY THING07:49
Nukedwhere do I begin07:49
SlimGsudo apt-get install * ;) hehe07:50
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Nukedlmao but he needs programs to install07:50
Nukeddo you feel adventurous enough to try and compile your own stuff espanto07:51
espantoif i knew how then heck yes i would07:51
espantohold up let me get my ADVENTURE jacket07:52
espantoand my hat07:52
Nukedwe will give you the capability, but only the capability. because you need to learn yo' sh** before you get any further07:52
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Nukedsudo apt-get install build-essential07:53
Nukedenter that into konsole07:53
Nukedand hit enter07:53
Nukedthats the bare minimum for compiling sh**07:53
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espantocontinue it right?07:54
Nukedsure thing07:54
Jack1hi room07:54
espantook its dune07:54
Jack1hhi h3sp4wn07:54
Nukednow sudo apt-get install checkinstall07:54
Nukedthis allows you to install things in a pretty manageable fashion07:55
Nukedill tell you how to do that kind of stuff as time progresses07:55
espantoits done07:55
Nukednow, you have all sorts of video players already installed with kde07:56
NukedI myself prefer VLC or mplayer07:56
Jack1guys i got a problem after a stopped dist-upgrade i cannot login any more, i got 100%use on /dev/sda5  mounted on / and du -hs /* shows me that of the 21 Gb used, 16 for /var , /usr 2,8 Gb are.07:56
Jack1dont know hat to do07:56
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Jack1i dualboot otherwise i did a complete new install07:57
Nukedjack1 is english your native language?07:57
Nukedjust curious07:58
espantoNuked:do VLC and MPlayer play ALL the formats?07:58
espantoor just the Linux stuff07:58
Nukedvlc and mplayer just rape the competition. I dont think there is anything I havent played with them07:59
Nukedheres the trick07:59
espantoi like tricks07:59
Nukedsudo apt-get install installs whatever package you want that is available08:00
Nukedso for example sudo apt-get install vlc08:00
Nukedwill install vlx08:00
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espantohow do i know what pack is available?08:00
Nukedaha! I like where your brain is taking you08:00
Nukedyou have a few options08:01
Nukedyou can use the super easy tool called adept08:01
espantotaht is?08:01
Nukedexample is the best teacher dude08:01
Nukedyou are going to try it08:02
Nukedalt and f2 again08:02
Nukedwhen the small box pops up08:02
Nukedtype kdesu adept08:02
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espantouhh it said "command adept not found"08:03
Nukedwell im on crack08:03
Nukedlets try it another way08:03
espantoit happens08:03
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espantoare u talking about teh Adept manager thing08:04
espantocuz i have that08:04
Nukedyou are one step ahead of me dude08:04
Nukedgo click the fuc***08:04
iarwainHi, does anybody know about a "chroot error" ? i tried chrooting, and got this: "could not execute the command '/bin/bash': access denied"08:04
Nukeddamn thats odd08:05
Nukedadept is refusing to start for me08:06
espantoaight its open.... and can i close the konsole ish now?08:06
Nukedyeah, I guess so08:06
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espantoyell at it... it might open08:07
Nukedcrazy sh** it isnt opening08:07
Nukedwow ok let me try something08:07
espantohit it.... thats how i deal with my problems08:07
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Nukedwow thats bullshit08:08
Jack1could someone pls help me?08:08
Nukedespanto basically everything is ordered by category08:08
Jack1with the prob described above?08:08
Hawkwind!language | Nuked08:09
ubotuNuked: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.08:09
NukedI am trying Hawkwind, but I cant open adept08:10
HawkwindNuked: That's no reason to break the rules and cuss every few lines08:10
HawkwindNuked: Don't use adept, use apt-get from the CLI, which actually works08:10
NukedI am aware of apt-gets usage, I am trying to show someone how to use adept08:11
espantothas me :)08:11
Nukedand as for the language I use asterisks08:11
HawkwindTrying to show them the things that don't work :)08:11
espantoNuked: ill brb08:11
HawkwindNuked: I don't care, don't do it again, and you didn't use *** every time08:12
Nukedno prob espanto08:12
ubotulibglide2: graphics library for 3Dfx Voodoo based cards - shared libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 2002.04.10-13 (edgy), package size 359 kB, installed size 984 kB (Only available for i386 alpha ia64 amd64)08:12
Nukedhawkwind I thought I had... my apologies08:13
espantoaww man08:15
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max__hi, i put a new motherboard in my computer and everything is going fine except i cant get any sound... i even put in another card in a PCI slot to see if it was the onboard sound cards problem but i cant get any sound off ther sound card either08:31
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max__hi, i put a new motherboard in my computer and everything is going fine except i cant get any sound... i even put in another card in a PCI slot to see if it was the onboard sound cards problem but i cant get any sound off ther sound card either08:39
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philip_Does anyone here have experience with getting printers to work in kubuntu 6.10?08:43
Jack1which one?08:43
Jack1there are good driver pages around08:43
philip_i have got a Canon-265sp08:43
Jack1check at the ubuntuforums and there is a site called not sure: linux drivers or so08:44
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max__hi, i put a new motherboard in my computer and everything is going fine except i cant get any sound... i even put in another card in a PCI slot to see if it was the onboard sound cards problem but i cant get any sound off ther sound card either08:44
Jack1buts a pain in the ass the driver stuff08:44
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Hawkwindmax__: Please stop repeating yourself every few minutes08:45
Hawkwindmax__: If/When someone can help you, they will08:45
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ArafangionHello guys, I've been running Ubuntu for a while, however it didn't work very well with multiple monitors (The panel wasn't handled correctly when maximizing windows, etc)08:58
ArafangionSo I apt-get install kde08:58
ArafangionNow it works very well :)08:59
ArafangionMy problem now, however, is that I've now just done: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop08:59
ArafangionNow, I am absolutely unable to use the second monitor! It shows the default blue background fine, but I can't use it!08:59
ArafangionAny suggestions?08:59
HawkwindArafangion: Using Nvidia ?09:00
HawkwindCan't help ya there, sorry09:00
ArafangionHawkwind: It is already setup.09:00
HawkwindI don't touch ATI, at all09:00
ArafangionHawkwind: Works in Gnome, works in every DE and WM I have found, except with kubuntu-desktop09:00
ArafangionHeck, it even works with kde - if you don't install kubuntu-desktop.09:01
ArafangionSo I know it's not an ATI problem.09:01
Linux_Galore_Arafangion: ?? kubuntu-desktop is just kde09:02
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: Evidently not.09:03
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eilkerhi, anyone knows this?? dpkg-preconfigure: cannot connect to x server :0.0 / debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Kde/ debconf: (Display problem?) / debconf: falling back to frontend: Dialog09:04
Arafangioneilker: You're running it from a terminal or display, so that's to be expected.  Nothing's wrong09:05
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Linux_Galore_Arafangion: did you run dpkg --configure -a09:05
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: No, why should I?09:06
Linux_Galore_Arafangion: and did you setup ximera in kcontrol09:06
Linux_Galore_Arafangion: you always run that on major install met packages09:06
eilkerArafangion: it is when adept install things...nothing from terminal09:06
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: I already had xinerama setup.09:06
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ArafangionLinux_Galore_: I shall run dpkg --configure -a now.09:07
Linux_Galore_Arafangion:  gnome isnt kde09:07
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: It was already setup just fine for KDE, and I was already using it.09:07
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ArafangionLinux_Galore_: Ok, I had no unconfigured packages.09:07
Linux_Galore_Arafangion: I suspect one of the install scripts has defaulted the settings back09:07
Linux_Galore_Arafangion: so xinerama is not enabled in kde right now09:08
Linux_Galore_Arafangion: so you have to turn it back on09:08
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ArafangionOk, interesting. Looks like kubuntu-desktop modifies the xorg.conf file.09:09
user-landHello. How can i verify if there are really 'too many open files' ?09:09
Linux_Galore_Arafangion: deb package are not just big zip files they have an installer script within them that often removes your settings to stop conflicts09:09
peer_How can I get a task bar in a fresh kubuntu Edgy Eft installation?09:12
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Linux_Galore_peer_:  right hold on, basically you right click on kicker and add the applet09:12
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: Ok, re-ran aticonfig, and everything's working again.  It seems that kubuntu-desktop subtlly changes the xorg.conf file?  (Just had an ATI-crappyness-related crash, but things are sweet now)09:13
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: Thanks for that :)09:13
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: A wierd thing was that kdm was allowing the mouse to move onto the next screen without any trouble. Wierd.09:14
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Linux_Galore_Arafangion: its very hard to compensate for stupid people (not talking about you) when making a package and their silly settings so the package creators often just flush the old settings09:14
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: imho, if it detects that the xorg file has been changed, it should damn well say the same :)09:16
ArafangionAlternatively, it could ask: "It seems your system has been altered, do you want me to restore the system back to the correct details?"09:17
Linux_Galore_Arafangion: you forget the type of people ubuntu is targeted at, they would panic if they saw that question, best to have no questions09:18
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: There's three situations: (1) Fresh installation - xorg file doesn't even exist.09:18
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ArafangionLinux_Galore_: (2) Something's caused dpkg to modify the xorg.conf file, that's still fine.09:19
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: So, you only have to deal with the people who actually deliberately modify the file, I doubt a relevant question is going to phase them that much.09:19
Schalkenwhen i go to the root folder all i see is 'media' and 'home'! should i be worried?09:19
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Linux_Galore_Arafangion: your forgeting there are thousands of variables that ubuntu has to deal with, your only thinking in relation to your personal setup, dealing with all the variables like hardware variations package conflicts stupid settings conflicts puts a new spin on things, best to flush it and set it back to a sane setup09:20
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Linux_Galore_Schalken: no thats good09:21
SchalkenLinux_Galore_: ???09:21
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: There is a difference between a mere conflict or whatever that causes xorg.conf to be changed by any automatic method via dpkg.09:21
Linux_Galore_Schalken: try sudo ls09:21
Linux_Galore_Schalken: why have the users playing with system files09:22
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: And that which is done by manually editing the file, causing the file's hash to change.09:22
SchalkenLinux_Galore_: actually just plain ls (as normal user) shows all of them normally, its just in konqueror09:22
Linux_Galore_Schalken: aah09:22
Linux_Galore_Schalken: although I like it lol09:22
Schalkeni will try sudo konqueror /09:23
ArafangionSchalken: I don't think the linux filesystem is designed to be navigated in a nice way in the GUI.09:23
Linux_Galore_Schalken: dumb users use konqueror, the geeks would use a console thus having the extra directories makes sense09:23
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SchalkenLinux_Galore_: sudo konqueror / only displays /home and /media as well09:23
Linux_Galore_Schalken: so to me as an admin making it so konqueror cant see /etc is a plus09:23
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: I can't stand having the file browser so *cluttered* by allowing you to see /etc /usr/ and so forth, so I like it too, even as a power user :)09:24
SchalkenLinux_Galore_: but thats like protecting the system with users stupidity => all they need to do is press F12 (Yakuake) and they can see everything09:24
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yamalSchalken: modify the files in /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/ so things are no longer hidden09:25
Schalkenls and(09:25
Linux_Galore_Schalken: dumb users dont use command line. trust me Ive never seen one of our office workers open a terminal in 5 years09:25
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Schalkenwell at school we open up the terminal (DOS prompt) all the time trying to get pass the proxy ;)09:26
ArafangionSchalken: Ahh, and there's the third type of user - the bored kid! ;)09:26
Schalkenwell a system should be protected against any kind of user! its like saying my computer is immune unless the user knows how to write a virus09:27
peer_Linux_Galore_: What's "kicker"? I just have a plein desktop background (with some folder and file symbols, but nothing else).09:27
Linux_Galore_yeah and you have to remember to a new user /etc /usr /tmp /var /home /mnt dev/  would confuse the crap out of them09:27
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Schalkenor is it more of a protecting you from your stupidity thing than security?09:28
Linux_Galore_peer_: task bar down the bottom of the screen09:28
nekomatadumb users who are afraid to open up terminals aren't a problem09:28
ArafangionSchalken: Consider the Mac OS X's file browser.09:28
RobNycis there any cool / extra themes for KDE found in Kubuntu repository09:28
peer_Linux_Galore_: Well, it's that thingy which I didn't see.09:28
ArafangionSchalken: You _can't_ see any of the system files, directories, or even the file system layout.09:28
yamalSchalken: see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/67314 ...09:28
nekomatait's the users who are quite happy to rampage through the computer dispite not knowing what they are doing that are a problem09:29
Linux_Galore_peer_: type "kicker" in a terminal09:29
nekomata"a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing" style09:29
yamalnekomata: on linux you can rampage all you want as a normal user.09:30
Schalkenyamal: if i clear out the text in /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/hidden-root and /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/hidden-media will i see everything?09:30
Linux_Galore_peer_: are you on the kde desktop its (kicker) always down the bottom by deafult09:30
yamalSchalken: you got that right09:30
Schalkenyamal: can i just delete the files?09:30
peer_Linux_Galore_: Ok. Well, the problem is solved. It appeared when I touched the down left corner. Not the down bottom in general which I tried before. (That's not the friendliest setting.)09:31
yamalor edit them... they just list what should be hidden09:31
ArafangionSchalken: Never delete files you don't know about, ever.09:31
ArafangionSchalken: If you want to delete something, instead *move* them to a harmless location.09:31
Linux_Galore_peer_: I dare say you grabbed it and moved it by accident09:31
ArafangionSchalken: Such as ~/junk09:31
SchalkenArafangion: hey i delete my ~/.thumbnails all the time, but then again i know about that folder09:31
Linux_Galore_peer_: and auto hide isnt a standard setting the user has to turn it on09:31
ArafangionSchalken: You shouldn't delete ~/.thumbnails - it makes image browsers significantly slower.09:32
peer_Linux_Galore_: Probably not. It was a fresh install.09:32
peer_Linux_Galore_: At least that's what I thought I did.09:32
SchalkenArafangion: yeah and then it caches the thumbnails in a newly created ~/.thumbnails folder, so its back to its usual speed09:32
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Linux_Galore_peer_: mouse over the panel right click ->configure panel -> click on the hiding icon then make sure "only hide when panel hiding button clicked09:33
Linux_Galore_is marked09:33
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin09:33
peer_Linux_Galore_: Yes, that's what I did once I got the task bar. I also somewhat miss a splash screen. I appears as if it boots directly into the logon window, before that, for some time, it's busy booting with a black screen.09:34
rooti can only login using consolelogin and doing startx as sudo09:34
rootif i do it normal way it kicks me out09:34
Linux_Galore_peer_: you can right click and hold and drag kicker to the bottom of your screen09:34
rootwhat shall i do?09:34
Arafangionroot: Users who call themselves root can fix their own problems.09:34
Schalkenhow come ls doesnt produce coloured output anymore?09:34
rootArafangion, very funny09:34
eilkerroot: i have same problem09:34
Linux_Galore_peer_: that set in kcontrol ie login splash screen etc09:35
Arafangionroot: Hey, it's a variation of the same old tired comment about root, surely?09:35
eilkerroot: and i have only two users09:35
Linux_Galore_peer_:  menu-> run command  type  kcontrol09:35
rootguys hello any idea??09:35
eilkerroot: is lamp server installed in your pc?09:35
peer_Linux_Galore_: Ok, I'll try that. Thank you so far!09:35
rootjust the default stuff nothing else09:35
Linux_Galore_peer_: kcontrol allows you to setup just about everything09:36
eilkerroot: my problem started after installing lamp server, so that i asked for it09:36
eilkerroot: do u also have xauth problem ?09:36
rootwhat u mean? not that i would know of...eilker09:37
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rooteilker mine started after dist-upgrading09:37
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: I find it very interesting how differently windows, mac and linux systems are used.09:37
eilkerroot: mine too...09:37
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: On windows, users actually _prefer_ very large programs that do everything09:37
Linux_Galore_Arafangion: yeah its a learning process like anything09:37
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: I'm talking about the Firefox craze with it's ten zillion extensions.09:38
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: Rather than using each tool for what it's *designed* for.09:38
Linux_Galore_Arafangion: well Unix methods are more about making things plugable with lots of small tools09:38
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eilkeryes people "root" also has same problem, could anyone experienced for the problem09:38
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Linux_Galore_Arafangion: the advantage being there are usually 10 tools for each job and you can choose the best one09:39
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rooteilker i get the the prob that "nautilus says it has quit" and the error message is unclosable09:39
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eilkerroot: mine is konqueror....09:40
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: I just find it particularly annoying - The firefox weenies are all saying how good their browser is, etc, and I have to keep saying that I *prefer* Opera.09:40
rootwell startx opens gnome for me cannot help09:40
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Linux_Galore_Arafangion: use what works for you, I never have an opinion on what people use09:41
Linux_Galore_Arafangion: if you pefere something and it works for you go for it09:41
eilkerroot: i had searched too much for it, in  forums, and here , also in x.org,etc,  i couldnt solve it,  i think that it is releated with xserver configuration or xauth files...09:42
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Linux_Galore_Arafangion: attacking people makes them defensive and doesn't help the cause09:42
peer_Linux_Galore_: Yes, in principle I know kcontrol. But it has no "task bar setup" function, that's only on the kicker applet -- which I didn't have. In general, I'm satisfied with kubuntu -- and it's getting better wiith each release.09:42
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Linux_Galore_peer_: if you enable the tasbar the setup apears09:43
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: Yup, but when I asked him why he likes to run FF with all it's extensions rather than running programs that actually are designed for it, such as xchat instead of chatzilla.09:43
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: Have you used WinXP?09:44
rooteilker it sounds so easy here09:44
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: He likes to see his apps appear in that list of 5 "preferred" Applications - interesting, eh?09:44
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eilkerpeople help to root pls ...:)09:45
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Linux_Galore_Arafangion: chatizailla is horrible sheesh09:45
rooteilker did u read the link?09:46
eilkerroot: which link?09:46
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Linux_Galore_Arafangion: yes but only once lol, then I install Linux over it09:46
rooteilker pm09:46
Linux_Galore_Arafangion: I found it very confusing09:47
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: I just found windows too slow to bother with (A fact I blame on remarkably poor power management drivers)09:48
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ArafangionLinux_Galore_: It is confusing the way it keeps rearranging the items, indeed.09:48
eilkerroot: some registration problem, i cant pm09:48
Linux_Galore_Arafangion: I just couldnt get it to do "what I wanted it to do", XP kept wanting to do its won weird thing09:49
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ArafangionLinux_Galore_: The final straw for me came when I noticed that I was typing so fast that Visual Studio wouldn't show the last two lines I'd typed (while typing, that is)09:49
rootare u there?09:50
Linux_Galore_Arafangion: then after a few attempts of trying to get it to setup my dvd device in the way I like it , it gave up and crashed09:50
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: Windows DVD players are pathetic.09:50
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ArafangionLinux_Galore_: I often feel that the Ubuntu company should make a version that you can pay for, that has all the DVD and mp3 goodness.09:51
Arafangion(By default - I used to compile LFS myself, now I just want things to work)09:51
Linux_Galore_Arafangion: I went to a windows help forum and I was told to hack the registry, Im like wtf, I used to hack the registry in windows 95 because it was so dumb that was often the only way to get things going, then to find out XP isnt much better made me laugh09:52
Linux_Galore_Arafangion: Linspire do that09:53
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: I Loathe the registery.  I wish that they only used it for what it was designed for - to register COM objects.09:53
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: Mind you, to configure wine, you have to use the registry editor ;)09:53
Linux_Galore_Arafangion: there is a servive from memory that ubuntu does that sells the $$$ bits09:53
RobNychow do u install this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=4667709:54
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: Nice, I'd have to look into that.09:54
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Schalkenwhere are icon stored?09:54
ArafangionSchalken: Everywhere and anywhere :(09:54
Linux_Galore_RobNyc: Ubuntu doesnt use compiz09:54
SchalkenArafangion: okay, say i have an icon pack and install it in kde's icon settings, where do they go?09:55
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Linux_Galore_RobNyc: ubuntu used beryl its a fork of compiz09:55
RobNycLinux_Galore_, got'cha09:56
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RobNyci hear about it a lot09:56
ubuntujoin #ubuntu-forum.de09:56
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Linux_Galore_RobNyc: there were too many issues with compiz09:56
RobNycim gonna try to get aiglx on this ati i dont know if i'll be able to though09:56
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Linux_Galore_RobNyc: yeah there are a few howto on doing it, its not hard09:57
RobNycjust last time I tried to get AIGLX on my ati x1600 pro broke X =\09:57
RobNyci'll try tomorrow though is 4am .. I'll see if i search the forums and see what ati users says , cuz i dont wanna get XGL really its too much pain09:58
Linux_Galore_RobNyc: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL09:58
Linux_Galore_RobNyc: ati have nice hardware but crap drivers09:59
RobNycso ati and aiglx still dont work ?09:59
Linux_Galore_RobNyc: not very well most people just get a cheap nvidia card09:59
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: That's true even on windows :(09:59
RobNycim gonna get a 7600gt in like 2weeks but not 100% sure yet if im getting it at all but hoping so10:00
eilker"no soundcards found" as usr, but root can find! , could anyone help pls ?10:00
nekomatafirefox question: after mesing around with settings in about:config do you need to restart firefox for them to take effect?10:00
ArafangionLinux_Galore_: A friend of mine got a nice 8x AGP ATI graphics card, etc, but after many weeks, finally determined that it was the ATI card that kept crashing his system.10:00
RobNycso the only way to get beryl is to use xgl10:00
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Linux_Galore_RobNyc: 7600 is more than enough grunt, I use a 6200 card with 128mb of ram and xgl works fine10:00
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Linux_Galore_RobNyc: follow this howto  its all you need http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL10:01
eilker!groups > eilker10:01
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about groups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:01
RobNycyes Linux_Galore_ thanks a lot, does it matter if im on kubuntu10:02
Linux_Galore_RobNyc: nope10:02
RobNyccuz i never seen this stuff on kubuntu10:02
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RobNycthanks much10:02
RobNycwill try some stuff now & see10:02
Linux_Galore_RobNyc: yeah there are add on for kde for the beryl effects , saw one recently for true transparency for konsole10:03
Linux_Galore_RobNyc: to be honest I disabled it in the end it's distracting lol10:04
RobNyci never tried this stuff dont know10:04
Linux_Galore_you spend all day playing with things10:04
RobNycbut i've played with XGL only b410:04
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Linux_Galore_Im out, bbl10:05
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xsachadont need aiglx, Xgl or nvidia inbuilt aiglx to use beryl now :)10:05
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ArafangionLinux_galore_: Are you a programmer?10:06
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ekaanyone want to help me out real quick? just some CL help10:09
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ekai need to take a folder full of files, and copy them into my "C:\" drive, which i can't access10:10
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D1G1T|awayany link that could help me connect to the internet on kubuntu 5.10? O_O10:11
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eka i need to take a folder full of files, and copy them into my "C:\" drive, which i can't access - can anyone help me with CL?10:12
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eilker!gpasswd  >eilker10:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about gpasswd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:13
Arafangioneka: Due to various reasons, you can't write to NTFS partitions (ie, what is now the default format for windows).10:13
Arafangioneka: You can write to any thing else, though.10:13
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin10:15
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ekaArafangion: it's a WINE directory, does that make any difference?10:19
Arafangioneka: Ah, then by default it's in ~/.wine/drive_c10:21
ekaso what can i do about copying files into a steam directory ;)?10:21
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Arafangioneka: cp files ~./wine/drive_c/path_to_stream_directory10:22
Arafangioneka: Realise that wine is a remarkably _thin_ layer over linux.10:22
ekai see, thank you very much, i'm going to try it out ;)10:22
eilkerArafangion: "no soundcards found" as user, but root can find! , could you look at my pastebin pls, and see what gives when i write groups..http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30945/10:23
ekabut YOU must realise that i'm a huge linux noob :D10:23
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Arafangioneilker: winecfg I believe.10:26
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eilkerArafangion: winecfg?? what is the relation with wine ?10:27
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ekaaha arafangion i'm having trouble10:29
ekai feel so terrible10:29
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RobNycLinux_Galore, XGL+Beryl kinda buggy but its working10:39
eilkerpeople when i write "groups" in console, i only get "eilker" and "admin" , could some tell me how can i add video audio etc, i dont know the way :(10:40
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RobNycI might try it on gnome and see if its more stable10:40
Arafangioneilker: sudo usermod -g eilker -G admin,video,audio,etc eilker10:41
Arafangioneilker: Obviously, substitute whatever you meant by "etc" :)10:41
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eilkerarafangion: ahahah:))) thanx man,10:42
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edulixin which deb package is the code for the kde log out screen?10:42
edulixI want to change the suspend command10:42
Arafangionedulix: Ok, that's not in the kde logout screen.10:43
Arafangionedulix: You want to look in /etc/apm10:43
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Arafangionedulix: But you won't get any support for this :)10:43
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edulixArafangion: apm? I thought I used acpi :P well I'll take a look10:44
compilerwriterHello all.10:45
compilerwriterI am just now trying out kde and want to know how to import my contacts from evolution into Kontact?10:45
Arafangionedulix: We don't use a.out files anymore, either, but that's still the default name for hte gcc compiler :)10:46
compilerwriterOMG a.out  I feel old.10:47
compilerwriterI remember a.out from my college years.10:47
Arafangioncompilerwriter: Then you'll realise that they're essentially PC COFF files, right?10:47
eilkerarafangion: is the command correct ? "sudo usermod -g eilker -G audio eilker"  , i write this command, after i write groups again only "eilker" and "admin"  no audio...10:47
Arafangioncompilerwriter: Which is very close to what windows *currently* uses.10:47
edulixArafangion: Ok I've taken a look, but I don't know much what to change in those files10:48
Arafangioneilker: The "comma-separated-list" is deliberate.10:48
Linux_GaloreRobNyc: yeah its still being worked on10:48
Linux_GaloreRobNyc: should all be stable by the time kde 4 comes out10:48
edulixso basically, what does KDE do when I clic suspend? it calls to /etc/apmapmd_proxy suspend ?10:49
compilerwriterarafangion I gues I realized that.10:49
Arafangionedulix: Probably.10:49
compilerwriterNever really thought about it.10:49
eilkerarafangion: i write as                           sudo usermod -g eilker -G audio eilker10:49
Arafangioneilker: Then that'll remove you from all the other groups, and add you to your primary group of eilker, and another group "audio".10:49
Arafangioneilker: If you want to be in video as well, then you have to write: sudo usermod -g eilker -G audio,video eilker10:50
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eilkerarafangion: i wrote, sudo usermod -g eilker -G audio,video eilker , after when i write groups, i only see eilker and admin, is this normal ?10:51
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compilerwriterAnyone know a quick and easy way to move contacts from Evolution to Kontact?10:54
Arafangioneilker: The new memberships are only realised at login.10:55
octancompilerwriter, dont think thers a easy way10:55
eilkerarafangion: thanx10:55
octanonly the manual way10:55
compilerwriterJust have to sync out of my palm.10:56
compilerwriterThe next question is there and easy way to copy the messages in evolution into Kontact?10:56
Arafangioncompilerwriter: That's usually the easiest way ;)10:56
compilerwriterI am trying to decide which to use.10:57
Arafangioncompilerwriter: Which palm do you have?10:57
compilerwriterI have a zire21  It is a cheapy.10:57
compilerwritergnome pilot worked just fine on it when I switched to kde session to try it.10:57
Arafangioncompilerwriter: I've got a T|X, but that's not entirely "nice" with linux (unfortunately).10:57
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compilerwriterFunny thing was gnome pilot would not do squat for me in gnome.10:58
eilkerarafangion: may i ask for one more favor ? could you write groups in your console, and copy paste here, i dont wanna forget the things to add...10:58
eilkeror anyone ?11:00
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Arafangionarafangion adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin11:00
eilkerthank you11:01
compilerwriterHow do I get my stuff to sync with both Kontact and Evolution?11:01
Arafangioneilker: Mind you, this is Dapper I'm running on :)11:01
eilker <Arafangion: here too:)11:01
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compilerwriterarafangion do you have any clue how to get my zire to sync with Kontact and Evolution?11:08
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Arafangioncompilerwriter: YOu shouldn't have any significant issues with Evolution.11:09
Arafangioncompilerwriter: Unfotunately, due to a small change int he protocol, I can't sync very easily at all, so I don't bother.11:09
compilerwriterI don't really.  I just wanted to try to sync to both and figure out which one I liked best.11:10
Arafangioncompilerwriter: If you're into sync'ing, sharing stuff, calendars and everything, you may find evo better.11:10
Jasey hey there. as an old time mac user, i was very glad to see the whole mac os-like menu bar. i have it enabled usually. only hitch is, the panel isnt wide enough to fit my icons ... or maybe my icons arent small enough to fit inside ... im not sure ... anyway, when i put the K menu up in the top panel, i only see a chunk of the middle. how would i go about making the bar wider? or icons smaller --- thanks in advance heh11:10
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ekai do not like mac D:11:11
ArafangionJasey: Right-click on teh panel and set the properties.11:11
ArafangionJasey: Can get it to auto-expand.11:11
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Jaseyit isnt that sort of panel tho11:12
ArafangionJasey: Would you be able to show a screenshot with the indicated panel visually shown?11:12
Jaseysure, where would i put the screenshot?11:13
octanhey any. norwegians in her that uses mythtv ????11:13
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eka.. i think i'm norwegian..11:13
ekahmm O.o11:13
Arafangionoctan: Ok, obviously, english isn't your first language ;)11:13
octan;) you fig that :P11:14
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octanArafangion, well i know my english suxz :P11:14
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Arafangionoctan: On the other hand, maybe you just dropped the 'e' off the end of "here" ;)11:14
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octani saw that11:15
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octanArafangion, not by any chanses a norwegian that uses mythtv ? :P11:15
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octanare you?11:15
eilkerarafangion: i am gonna cry i exactly gave this command     sudo usermod -g eilker -G eilker,adm,admin,dialout,cdrom,floppy,audio,dip,plugdev,lpadmin,audio,video eilker           and reboot, than now i write groups, it shows only eilker and video :(((11:16
ekai'm norwegian from due to ancestry, but - i have no idea what mythtv is!11:16
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octaneka its a mediacenter.. alla Ms mediacenter ,,, but better ;)11:17
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Arafangioneilker: You don't get any errors from typing in the command?11:17
ekai seeeee ;)11:17
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ekawell you should tell me about norwegian history, because i don't know anything of my ancestry11:17
ekasound good ^_^?11:18
ermaki have just installed kubuntu edgy, and trying to run eclipse, but get the followin:11:18
eilkerarafangion: nope, it only asks for password11:18
ermaksearching for compatible vm...11:18
ermak  testing /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun...found11:18
ermakkdialog: Unknown option '--warning'.11:18
ermakkdialog: Use --help to get a list of available command line options.11:18
ermakwhat is wrong?11:19
Arafangioneilker: Which you provide, and it works without any other problems?11:19
Arafangionermak: #java11:19
eilkerarafangion: the command works, but i still cant have the groups11:20
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eilkerarafangion: for example still no audio11:20
ermakbut before I had dapper and eclipse 3.1 and that worked fine11:20
Jaseyokay, uploading the screenshot Arafangion.11:20
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octaneilker added yourself to /etc/group?11:21
octanunder audio11:21
ekaoctan! norwegian history, go!11:21
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octaneka, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway11:22
eilkeroctan: let me check11:22
octaneilker grep audio /etc/group11:22
octangrep audio /etc/group11:23
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eilkeroctan: it says audio:x:29:11:23
ekathe norwegians were vikings?11:23
ekai'm a freaking viking?11:23
JaseyArafangion:  http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m10/feetyjasey/xaw.jpg11:23
octaneilker, thats your problem11:23
ArafangionHow do I use multiple desktops, AND move windows from one to the other?11:23
octanyour not listed under audio11:23
ekaoctan!.. our people were once vikings!11:23
eilkeroctan: what should i do ?11:23
octanadd your username to audio11:24
octaneka, i know11:24
octan:) cool or what11:24
ekacool x100011:24
JaseyArafangion: right click the titlebar of the window, there should be a move option or something. and in the kicker panel there should be a Desktop Pager applet11:24
ArafangionJasey: Looks like a glitch, report it as a bug to the manager of that theme.11:24
Jaseyof what theme11:24
Jaseyno no, when i first set it up, it showed fine11:25
ArafangionJasey: You have a Mac OS X-like system theme.11:25
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Jaseyit happens on any theme11:25
ArafangionJasey: Hmm, you running Gnome?11:25
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Jasey.... KDE11:25
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Jaseyit shows fine initially. i think KDE does some magic auto resizing thing blah. then it resized and the icons are obscured now.11:26
ArafangionJasey: Looks like a glitch, that's all I can say :(11:26
ArafangionJasey: A bug, even.11:27
Jaseyi doubt it. but thanks anyway.11:27
ArafangionHow do I setup my system into xinerama mode?11:27
ArafangionI want to move my windows right, and have them appear on the other physical monitor.11:27
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Jaseywhat graphics card do you have?11:27
octan2 thinkgs needed to do that Arafangion11:27
Arafangionoctan: Which is?11:27
octan1st edit you xorg11:28
octan1 sec pls11:28
Jaseya how to to set it up11:28
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ArafangionIt was all working fine before I installed kubuntu-desktop11:28
octanArafangion, add this to your xorg.conf11:28
octanSection "Extensions"11:28
octan    Option         "Composite" "Enable"11:28
octanif i remember correct11:29
_gpg_anyone got link explaining how to uptade the installation repositories ?11:29
ekaoctan! we must take to the streets, as vikings!11:29
octanArafangion, 1st hit on google,, explains it11:29
ekastart fires we must!11:29
Jaseydidnt i just give a link for a how to?11:29
Arafangionoctan: I've already got   Option      "DesktopSetup" "horizontal"11:29
Arafangionoctan: And I'm using ATI.11:30
ArafangionI *know* that it works in ATI.11:30
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octanArafangion, under11:31
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octanSection "ServerLayout"11:31
octanadd this11:31
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octan        Option      "Xinerama" "off"11:31
octan        Option      "Xinerama" "on"11:31
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ekaoctan, grab your helmet and leather armor, aswell your axe! we take to the streets!11:32
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_gpg_well where can i find an uptodate sources.list please (kubuntu )11:33
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ekastorm city hall we must!11:34
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:34
octanand die as brave vikings and go to valhall11:34
snpzhi, does anyone have any experience with broadcom 4311 chip wifi cards?11:36
snpzafaik it works only with ndisswrapper and windows driver11:36
ArafangionHeh, just broke my X :)11:36
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ekawho cares about your x, become a viking!11:37
ekastorm city hall with octan and i!11:37
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edulixI've added this with visudo:11:37
edulixHost_Alias LOCALHOST=localhost,
edulixALL LOCALHOST=NOPASSWD: /usr/local/sbin/hibernate *, /usr/local/sbin/hibernate-ram *11:37
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edulixbut it still ask me for a password when I do edulix@paloalto$ sudo hibernate-ram11:38
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eilkeroctan: thanx friend, i modified etc/group file now it added those "eilker adm audio video admin"11:38
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philip_Is there anyway to get things you have installed in Add/Remove Programs to automatically appear in your programs menu?11:38
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philip_For some reason, some programs appear in my menu and some dont.  Does anyone know the reason why, and how to fix it?11:41
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octanphilip_, non kde apps has a bad habbit of not getting in the menus11:42
philip_Is there anyway to find the missing non-Kde items?11:42
octanphilip_, add them manualy11:43
octanwheris appname11:43
octanon cli11:43
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edulixcome on someone must know something about the sudoers file :P11:43
octanthen edit the menus and add the path and ass a icon11:43
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octanedulix, whats the problem?11:43
octanedulix, want no pw with sudo?11:44
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edulixoctan: this is the problem:11:45
racoonc' un italiano11:45
edulixI want to be able to execute hibernate-ram without being asked for a password from any user11:45
edulixI've added this:11:46
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edulix I've added this with visudo: ALL localhost=NOPASSWD: /usr/local/sbin/hibernate-ram . but when I do edulix@mymachine$ sudo hibernate-ram it stil ask me for a password11:46
xsachasudo will always ask for password..11:46
octanxsacha, not ture11:47
xsachaeven sudo echo hi11:47
edulixwell actually I'm using ALL localhost=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/hibernate-ram and I'm trying to do sudo /usr/sbin/hibernate-ram11:47
octanedit /etc/sudoers11:47
octanand add:11:47
octanusername ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL11:47
xsachaunless you've already typed it11:47
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xsachahe didnt do that11:47
edulixxsacha: I did something more restricted11:47
octanxsacha, you dont need pw with sudo im telling you'11:47
xsachai know that octan.. but unless you've done that, it will always ask for password11:48
octanthats for sure11:48
philip_I have already manualy added some of the programs, but I cant remeber the names of the rest of the things I have installed.  Is there anyway to find them11:48
xsachaand he hasnt done that11:48
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dopezhello, i'm having some issues with kubuntu 6.10 that none of the programs i install are showing up in the menus, anyone an idea where i can fix it ?11:50
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octandopez non kde apps?11:50
dopezoctan: also, but also kde apps are not showing up11:51
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tsdgeosdopez: rebooted the machine?11:51
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tsdgeosif not, probably you need to run kbuildsycoca11:51
fdovingdopez: try to run 'kbuildsycoca --incremental' from the konsole (kmenu->system->konsole)11:51
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tsdgeoskubuntu sucks in that way11:51
octan1 sec.. im trying a brain storm and see if i can remeber the command to rebuild the menus11:51
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octanits tooooooo eraly in the morning for me11:52
dopezokay, i rebooted the box already, didn't help, now i ran the kbuildsycoca command and exits with an error, no database available11:53
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dopezit did work before though, mplayer, vlc and so are in the menu's, just anything i install now doesn't show up11:54
eilkeroctan: it was like this "cdrom:x:24:haldaemon" i made it as "cdrom:x:24:haldaemon:eilker" but the things like cdrom dialout which has haldemon extension are not added to groups...11:54
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ekaoctan.. i'm norwegian, and i'm drinking tea? wtf?11:55
edulixsudo worked11:55
Schalkeninkscape's toolbar buttons in kubuntu are half the usual size. how can i make them normal again?11:55
ekathat doesn't seem right11:55
edulixsuspend didn't11:55
octaneka, wtf.. you need some flymushrom11:56
ekafly mushroom?11:56
ekawhta's that?11:56
octanflue sopp11:56
octaneilker, 1 sec11:56
ekaflue sopp?11:56
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eilkeroctan: oki11:57
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octani see your problem eilker11:57
octanyou did it wrong11:57
octanyou need a , not :11:58
octanlike this11:58
fdovingare you editing /etc/group by hand? - that's, not the easy way.11:58
eilkerohh ok, but for admin it is a :  ? right not ,11:59
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fdoving'sudo adduser username group' is easier.11:59
octanfdoving, indeed11:59
fdovingor even using system settings -> user management11:59
eilkerfdoving: we couldnt do it:(11:59
fdovingeilker: why not?11:59
intelikeyi'm picking up a strange boot time message...  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30954/plain/  any insite ?12:00
eilkerfdoving: "sudo usermod -g eilker -G  adm admin dialout cdrom floppy audio dip plugdev lpadmin audio video eilker" this didnt work12:00
intelikeyor just use groupadd ^12:00
fdovingeilker: 'sudo adduser username group' works.12:00
ubuntuhey, i storaged some data on my PSP. the menu from PSP says, there aren't datas, but konqueror says, there are...12:01
Sudo|Faderhvalhi im trying to create a partition with cfdisk right now its showin FS Linux i want it to show Linux ext3 how do i do that?12:01
eilkerfdoving:" sudo eilker audio " will it be like this ?12:01
eilkerfdoving:" sudo eilker  eilker audio " will it be like this ?12:01
fdovingSudo|Faderhval: cfdisk makes partitions, not filesystems. it shouldn't say ext3.12:01
fdovingeilker: 'sudo adduser eilker audio' will add the user 'eilker' to the group 'audio'.12:02
Sudo|Faderhvalso i use parted for the FS?12:02
eilkerfdoving: thanx12:02
intelikeySudo|Faderhval you can set the lable when you make a file system there.    mke2fs12:02
eilkeroctan: i have some registiration problem for pm:(12:03
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eilkeroctan: sorry for it, i cant answer from there12:04
octaneilker, the setup of the file is simple... its always like etc::  cdrom:x:115:name1,name2,name312:04
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octanfor everything in that file12:04
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octandosnt matter what it is,,,12:04
fdovingSudo|Faderhval: you can for example, use 'qtparted' to format and manage partitions. it's graphical and you can rightclick -> format, on each partition.12:05
octanthing:x:number:name1,name2,name3 and so on12:05
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Sudo|Faderhvalim doing it in a ssh terminal12:05
ekabe you angels?12:06
ekawe are but men!12:06
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Sudo|FaderhvalTenacious D Rock!12:06
fdovingSudo|Faderhval: ok, then remember the device name, let's say you have created a linux partition, /dev/hda2, then to make a ext3 filesystem on it, run 'mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda2'12:06
vikkehello, i have now set up my chroot environment and was hoping i could run applications through 32bit, but i cant install anything through it couse it always says it depends on a bunch of packages :(12:06
iberthi! could this be a problem, when I use apt-get install for installing new software packages, and adept to update the system? I've read somewhere that a mix of packet-manager could cause a mess.12:06
fdovingeka: behave, this is a support channel, for random offtopic chatting go to #kubuntu-offtopic.12:06
ekaugh sorry. i love you >.<12:07
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Sudo|Faderhvalshrug no support for ext3 filesystem it says!12:08
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edulixdcop allows us to list all the sessions for each user12:08
edulixut how do I get a list of active dcop users ?12:08
intelikeyibert it could but you only have one package manager.   dpkg   all the frontends adept/synaptic/aptitude/apt use dpkg.12:08
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eilkeroctan:thanx friend12:09
ibertintelikey: thanks. so it's possible to mix all the four tools.12:10
octaneilker, no problem12:10
intelikeySudo|Faderhval as root   mke2fs -cj /dev/<device>12:10
eilkerfdoving: i only can login from console login, do u have any idea for this ?12:10
fdovingedulix: 'dcop --list-sessions --all-users'12:11
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fdovingeilker: does kdm start? do you get error messages? if kdm starts, how does it behave when you try to login?12:11
intelikeythoughts ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30954/plain/12:12
Sudo|Faderhvalintelikey but that would still just make an ext2 fs right?12:12
intelikeySudo|Faderhval no.12:12
intelikeyext3 is ext2 + journal    -j switch adds a journal12:13
eilkerfdoving: kdm starts, kde login screen comes, i write my password, and a console comes...i write startx it says "xauth: creating new authority file" "user not authorized to run xserver"12:13
ekahigh above the mucky muck, castle made of clouds12:13
intelikeyit's what mkfs.ext3 exec's12:14
Sudo|Faderhvalok thank you!12:14
eilkerfdoving: than i close that console, again kde login screen comes, i say "console login" after that i login...12:14
fdovingeilker: what does 'stat -c %a /usr/bin/X' return?12:15
jesperProblems formating/burning a DVD-RW using dvd+rw-tools... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30955/plain/12:15
eilkerfdoving:  6755eilker@eilker:~$12:16
intelikeyeilker may i sujest you   rm ~/.*auth*      and retry.12:16
eilkerintelikey: i tried it many times, still same12:16
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fdovingeilker: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config ?12:17
eilkerfdoving:  ok sir12:18
edulixfdoving: thanks12:18
Acc\Denyintelikey: Hello :)12:18
Acc\Denyintelikey: My problem yesterday was fixed.. by forcing vga=791. However, I have a new problem now.12:18
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Acc\Denyintelikey: I have /boot and / on separate partitions. grub was installed on /boot, not on MBR. I use the windows loader to get the Grub menu. But, now when i select kubuntu i get Error 24 of grub...12:20
eilkerfdoving:  here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30957/12:20
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intelikeyAcc\Deny give me a sec.12:20
fdovingeilker: ok, that looks good too.. running out of options.. i'll google a little, hang on.12:21
Acc\Denyintelikey: sure.12:21
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eilkerfdoving: ok sir, in fact i googled too much, i couldnt have any results....12:21
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fdovingeilker: is allow-user-xsession present in /etc/X11/Xsession.options ?12:22
Sudo|Faderhvalim getting an error saying filesystem was not cleanly unmounted!12:23
eilkerfdoving:  here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30958/12:24
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fdovingeilker: that's ok, too.. hmm.12:25
eilkerfdoving: this problem occured after i installed upgrades in 6.0612:25
fdovingeilker: what updates?12:26
fdovingdo you remember package names?12:26
fdovingor dates?12:26
eilkerfdoving: all updates12:26
eilkerfdoving: it was approximetly about 248 mb12:26
fdovingah ok, you installed everything at once.12:27
eilkerfdoving: yes sir12:27
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intelikeyAcc\Deny    a line something like  "root            (hd0,0) " Change it to "rootnoverify (hd0,0) "   in the /boot/grub/menu.lst     and see if it helps you.     (note. (hd0,0) could be anything.)12:27
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intelikeyAcc\Deny that's for the os in question.   not all entries.    although i'm not sure it would hurt to do that to all entries.12:28
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eilkerfdoving: i googled too much, but no result, may be cause of updates, may be need to upgrade to 6.10, i dont know12:29
tobreHi all!12:29
eilkerfdoving: because kernel upgraded too12:29
ekabe you angels?12:29
ekaNEIGH! we are but men!12:30
fdovingeilker: shouldn't matter, should work anyway. can you pastebin the exact error message you get when you try to login to X?12:30
fdovingeka: #kubuntu-offtopic please.12:30
Acc\Denyintelikey: tried rootnoverify, no luck :(12:30
ekarawrawrawr - sorry, once again12:30
eilkeri need to reboot12:30
eilkerfdoving: let me reboot12:31
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Acc\Denyintelikey: Should right now my /boot is a small 100 mb parition separate form the /.12:31
Acc\Denyintelikey:  should i avoid /boot in a separate partition?12:32
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tobreI have problem with xine. My system sound driver is oss, but in Kaffeine sound is not working. Xine settings can't choose oss. It says that can't init new audio driver oss. What's wrong? Any ideas?12:33
intelikeyAcc\Deny no that's not in and of itself a bad thing.   have a look at  http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Stage2-errors.html12:34
intelikeylook at #2412:35
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intelikeyAcc\Deny seeing that i can't use grub on this system because of it's weeknesses you should ask someone else about it.     all i would know to do is check the file system/s and if no errors there....  ahhh you got me.12:38
Acc\Denyintelikey: ok. thanx12:38
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tobreAny ideas for my problem?12:39
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intelikeytobre why not alsa ?12:40
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eilkerfdoving: here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30961/12:40
tobreAlsa is not working.12:40
tobreIn system settings I choose alsa, then I can't play test sound and all sound is not working.12:41
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eilker!alsa > tobre12:41
intelikeycat /proc/asound/cards12:41
Hirvinen!alsa | tobre12:41
ubotutobre: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin12:42
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tobrecat /proc asound/cards says Intel12:43
intelikeytobre ok    alsamixer12:44
intelikeynot muted not volume set to 0 ???    master and  pcm12:45
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eilkerfdoving: r u there ?12:46
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fdovingeilker: i'll have to go eat, i'll look at it in a few min.12:46
philip_dopez: are you still looking to fix your menus?12:47
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eilkerfdoving: ok sir, here i am12:47
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tobreOK, I'll google a little..12:47
intelikeytobre you did look at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems  didn't you ?12:48
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tobreYes I did12:49
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eilkerintelikey: i am trying to play an avi file. just blue screen in kaffeine, do we need to install codecs etc ?12:50
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intelikeyeilker yep12:53
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:53
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scheurihi all12:54
qbitanyone know about Xen support in edgy? - specifically if cpu has to be one of the new ones with new virtualization features, or can it even work on older such as a Sempron 2800+?12:55
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scheurianyone knowing of a good c64-emulator? and maybe even of a site to get some games?12:55
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intelikeyscheuri   apt-cache search $*     where $* in this case might be 'emulator'12:56
scheuriintelikey: aye, tried that actually...not much look so far...:)12:57
eilkerintelikey: thxnx12:57
scheuriintelikey: but I just might found one....vice12:57
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crazy_bus_     /msg nickserv register <dsowatcher101>01:00
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intelikeymorning Jucato01:01
crazy_bus_ /msg nickserv link <crazy_bus> <dsowatcher101>01:01
Jucatogood morning/afternoon/evening!!! :)01:02
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crazy_busI found out had to add the missing items back into my menu.  Does anyone else need to now how?01:04
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markelhasi ppl01:06
markelhascan any one help with low speed in torrent client!?01:06
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crazy_busin adept manager install the files, menu and menu-xdg.  Then type sudo update-menu.  This will take all menu items, missing and not missing and put them into the Debian folder in the menu01:07
age1172anybody knows how to mount ntfs with ntfs3g at startup?01:07
age1172anybody knows how to mount ntfs drives with ntfs3g at startup?01:07
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crazy_busage1172: Did you follow the directions from here?: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=ntfs-3g01:09
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age1172crazy_bus: i will try01:15
age1172crazy_bus:  i tried before but failed01:15
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crazy_busage1172: After installing did you follow all of the directions under, 3. Configuration?01:17
age1172crazy_bus:yes but i surely did something wrong01:18
age1172because it refused to mount any drive then?01:19
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crazy_busWhat does it say in /etc/fstab ?01:21
elias_Free KDE in kubuntu!01:21
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elias_If I am hot for a minimal desktop there is no reason to choose kubuntu over ubuntu!01:22
elias_If I want a desktop that can satisfy a super user, I would choose KDE but not castrated kubuntu!01:22
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elias_Therefore, free KDE in kubuntu! Let it offer me all the things it was meant to offer!01:23
abattoirelias_: what does KDE in kubuntu *not* offer?01:24
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tsdgeos.hidden sucks completely and the one that invented it should be completely killed01:25
abattoirtsdgeos: :P01:25
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dany21UTFG "kubuntu directories missing" and your done ... :)01:26
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ArafangionWell, I haven't been able to get Xinerama again with ATI, damn general crappiness :(01:29
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DzanyHello!Can anybody tell me is there any chance to change location for downloading with aptitude?01:29
age1172crazy_bus:i'm trying right now01:29
intelikeyDzany ?01:29
abattoirDzany: you want to change the mirrors?01:29
abattoirDzany: for the repositories?01:29
Dzanyyes yes01:30
Dzanyi'm in serbia01:30
abattoirDzany: 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'01:30
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abattoirDzany: you'll see lines like 'http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com...'01:30
abattoirDzany: switch the existing two letters in xx with the ones you want01:30
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intelikeyif the xx. is not there you can add.01:31
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Dzanywhere can I find mirror locations list?01:32
ubotuKubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php01:32
dany21is there any way to trigger a KDE-miniprogramm via a key-shortcut? (in my case i want to assign [win] +[d]  to show desktop)01:32
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Jucatodany21: Ctrl+Alt+D is the default keyboard shortcut for that01:33
abattoirintelikey: uk most probably01:33
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Jucatodany21: but you can set it to something different in System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts01:33
Jucato(if you're on Edgy)01:33
intelikeyabattoir being in the US probably us.01:33
dany21wow...thx!! can it be changed?01:33
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Dzanyoki would like to do mirror from hungary01:33
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Dzanybecause it goes fastest01:34
Dzanyis it hu?01:34
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abattoirDzany: yup01:34
Dzanyfor xx01:34
Dzanyok .tnx a lot01:34
dany21havent found it there... whats the name for the action?01:34
abattoirintelikey: during installation, if you chose us, it would have added us.archive... but if you removed that it should point to gb01:34
dany21oh... forget it - found it,,, thx!!01:35
hell666how can I start program called Cluster manager??01:35
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intelikeyabattoir gb yeah.01:36
wildchildwhy all the sudden XP user can't get to my shared files: when he clicks on my folder to view it it says: u don't have permission to acces this file, contact network administrato01:38
Arafangionwildchild: Perhaps he doesn't hae permission to access the files?01:38
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wildchildArafanogion: he could acces 2days before, and I didn't change anything in samab01:39
intelikey-* Arafangion is now known as Mr.obvious *-   :)01:39
Arafangionwildchild: Then the issue is with either user/group accounts, or (more likely) incorrect umasks01:39
Arafangionintelikey: :)01:40
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wildchildArafanogion: I have set up for small workgroup..01:41
wildchildI change [cd-rom]  in to my share_name01:41
wildchildand make path, guest,01:41
wildchildthan I created new user and new samba passwd01:42
wildchildand everything was working fine untill 2 days before01:42
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Xshm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:45
fdovingeilker: you can try, to edit /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config and set allowed_users=anybody just to test.01:45
Jucato!xchm | eilker01:45
ubotuxchm: Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.9-3 (edgy), package size 237 kB, installed size 944 kB01:45
Jucatoeilker: that one? ^^^01:45
fdovingkchmviewer - CHM viewer for KDE01:45
Jucatoyes kchmviewer much better :P01:45
Jucatobut aside from the K in the name, what does make it better? hehehe01:46
fdovingqt, maybe :)01:46
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DzanyI have one more question:ati driver doesen't support 16 color depth?01:46
eilkerjucato: it was for caffeine:)01:46
Jucatoeilker: ah01:47
eilkerjucato: i got only blue screen01:47
Jucatotrying to play what format?01:47
eilkerjucato: now solved:) it was avi01:48
Arafangionwildchild: Can you access the files as the Unix user?01:48
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DzanyDoes anyone knows about ichat for windows,some russian network chat program?Is there subtitution for that?01:50
eilkerfdoving: if u r free, this was the error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30961/01:50
intelikeyas guest01:50
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Dzanyfor linux of course :)01:51
intelikeyDzany xchat used to have a free windows port01:51
intelikeyoh nm01:51
Jucatointelikey: it still has, but for 30 days only :P01:51
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Dzanyxchat u said01:52
intelikeyhehhe i don't use any windows but i still have the "free" xchat01:52
Dzanyi'll try01:52
Dzanyit free that ichat01:52
Dzanyfor windows01:52
JucatoDzany: Konversation (installed by default) is also an IRC program01:53
Dzanyit's not realy irc program01:53
JucatoDzany: what is it?01:53
Dzanyit has main window for chat,and board in other window01:53
Dzanyand u can send private message01:54
Jucatohm... the only iChat that shows up in Google is Apple's iChat...01:54
intelikeysounds like an irc client to me.01:54
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Dzanyyes I know about that Apple's ichat01:54
intelikeyDzany have you looked at gaim ?01:54
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Dzanyand it's not that01:54
honestHello all, i've just plugged a NTFS drive into my kubuntu to dump it onto this computer, under disk management it can see it but i cant find it under the file manager01:55
Dzanyand that's what confuses me01:55
JucatoDzany: um... if you have a link to the webpage of that program, maybe we could understand better..01:55
honestdoes anyone know how i can mount it or something?01:55
Arafangionwildchild: What do the logfiles say? (/var/log/smbd and /var/log/nmbd thingies, I assume)01:55
Jucato!ntfs | honest01:55
ubotuhonest: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse01:55
Dzanyok.in a half an our i'll be back01:55
honestJucato: cheers, shall look now : )01:55
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intelikeyand the other half theres  :)01:56
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age1172anyone can help me with ntfs3g?01:58
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:59
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wildchildArafangion: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30975/ and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30976/02:00
wildchildif ur still there02:00
snoopy1alphahello there02:00
age1172i want to mount ntfs drives on linux using ntfs-3g02:00
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honestJucato: i want to format the drive to make it a linux paritition, is there a command for that?02:01
ubotuntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=171002:01
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Jucatohonest: um.. QtParted or GParted (don't know the command line equivalents)02:01
snoopy1alphaI hope someone can help me, I am trying to install Kubuntu onto an older computer and he does not load the desktop (I can see the taskbar, but he is loading since one hour and nothing is happening)02:01
honestJucato: cheers : )02:01
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intelikeyhonest cfdisk /dev/<disk-id> && mke2fs -cj /dev/<partition-id>02:02
snoopy1alphacould it help to create a swap-partition before booting the install-cd?02:03
oslo bootsplash problem: http://www.cannacola.free.fr/IMG_0011.JPG02:03
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honestintelikey: and that will turn it into a linux partition?02:03
intelikeythat's what you asked for.02:04
fdovingsnoopy1alpha: can't you just select kmenu -> system -> install ? why do you -need- the desktop?02:04
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snoopy1alphafdoving: there is no kmenu02:04
honestintelikey: lol ok soz02:04
snoopy1alphafdoving: I see a naked taskbar02:04
fdovingsnoopy1alpha: ah.. interessting. how much RAM?02:04
snoopy1alpha128 MB02:04
snoopy1alphathats why I asked for the swap02:04
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fdovingi'm not sure.02:05
intelikeyhonest you change the partition type and then make a file system on the partition.02:05
DzanyI found homepage for that chat program.We r using it in our local wireless network comunity.It is: http://vnalex.tripod.com/en/index.htm02:05
honest"bash: syntax error near unexpected token `&&'"02:05
honestintelikey: any idea what that means?02:05
snoopy1alphafdoving: I would boot a knoppix and do the partitioning manually but the question is, will the install-cd use the swap-partiton?02:05
intelikeyhonest yes you typed <blah>  rather than inturpreting it.02:06
snoopy1alphafdoving: or is there a console-based install-script?02:06
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intelikeyhonest interpret <***>02:06
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intelikeyif you don't know the disk-id  use   fdisk -l02:06
intelikeyhonest also you have to be root to do any of that.02:07
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.02:07
fdovingsnoopy1alpha: not on that cd, you need the other cd image, the alternate, to have that.02:07
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intelikeyfdisk -l    only lists and exits...02:07
fdovingsnoopy1alpha: not sure about the swap space.02:08
snoopy1alphafdoving: okay thanks, then I will try the manual partitioning with knoppix, hoping kubuntu will use the swap I will create. If this fails, I will try the alternate Image02:09
DzanyI found homepage for that chat program.We r using it in our local wireless network comunity.It is: http://vnalex.tripod.com/en/index.htm . Anyone who knows about some subtitution that work on linux?02:09
markcon dapper, if I have a nvidia-glx w/ v1.0.8776 ... what kernel do I need  ?02:09
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fdovingsnoopy1alpha: i've checked this, and yes, it will if they are formatted as swap space, (mkswap /dev/partition).02:11
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snoopy1alphafdoving: thanks alot02:12
ermakwhy rmmod can't remove module?02:12
ermaksudo rmmod saa7134_alsa02:12
ermakERROR: Module saa7134_alsa is in use02:12
fdovingermak: it's in use.02:12
ermakwhat module uses it?02:12
Arafangionwildchild: Your "guest" configuration appears to be incorrect.02:12
markcor, where is there info about getting nvidia working with dapper ?02:12
Arafangionwildchild: Show your smb.conf file.02:12
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fdoving!nvidia | markc02:12
ubotumarkc: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto02:12
Arafangionwildchild: I think there's a configuration checker in samba, use that. testparm I think it's called.02:13
ermakwhat module is using saa7134_alsa? how can I know?02:13
fdovingermak: if it doesn't tell you, i don't know if you can.02:14
octanthing:x:number:name1,name2,name3 and so on02:14
ermakfdoving: and is that possible to reload module with different parameters?02:15
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fdovingermak: hmm.. not without removing it, afaik.02:15
fdovingermak: you can try to force its removal, 'rmmod -f module'02:15
fdovingermak: it's dangerous though.02:15
ermakfdoving: ok, i ll try this...02:16
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fdovingermak: there is also -w, 'man rmmod' for more info.02:16
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ermakfdoving: now it tells: ERROR: Removing 'saa7134_alsa': Resource temporarily unavailable02:17
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wildchildArafangion: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30977/02:17
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markcre: nvidia... I've followed that howto, installed restricted drivers and nvidia-glx but I am getting an API mismatch error, kernel module is v1.0.7174 but the x module is v1.0.8776 ... can anyone elaborate on  what kernel  goes with nvidia-glx 1.0.8776 (for dapper) ?02:19
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wildchildArafangion: testparm -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30978/02:20
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Arafangionwildchild: Try replacing the guest = ok lines with guest ok = yes02:20
ermakfdoving: with -w it's just waiting for smth.... so the only way is to configure modprobe.d and reboot?02:20
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fdovingermak: that's probably the easiest solution.02:20
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markcanyone still using dapper with a nvidia card ?02:21
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ermakfdoving: by the way there was no problem with removing this module in dapper....02:22
gnomefreakmarkc: yes on one of my boxes why?02:22
markcgnomefreak:  what kernel  version are you using on that box ?02:22
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gnomefreak2.6.15- i cant remember the last number off hand02:23
vieira_any one ? need help config torrent client02:23
age1172when i tried to mount my ntfs drives with ntfs-3g using this how to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21700902:23
markcgnomefreak: heh... that's the bit I need02:23
gnomefreak33 i think but dont hold me to that.02:23
Dzanywhat is subtitution for dc++?02:23
vieira_simple can connect in kubuntu, same config in the router work for windows02:23
markcanyone else running dapper with a nvidia card ?02:24
vieira_i'm missing somethig?!?!?!?02:24
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age1172and tried the mount -a command it gave me the following errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30974/02:24
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age1172any ideas ?02:24
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vieira_is any problem with kubuntu and tour linksys?02:25
gnomefreakmarkc: either way unless your kernel and l-r-m dont match its not gonna matter about version of kernel02:25
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honestI've just changed the partition to an ext302:26
vieira_no ideias?!02:26
honestbut under media it's just showing as a folder and not a drive and i can't use it as a drive02:26
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age1172i am on edgy02:27
Arafangionwildchild: Try replacing the guest = ok lines with guest ok = yes02:27
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age1172when i tried to mount my ntfs drives with ntfs-3g using this how to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21700902:27
thuanwhen I try to install kubuntu edgy I can continue after select a root partition02:27
age1172when i tried to mount my ntfs drives with ntfs-3g using this how to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21700902:27
gnomefreakage1172: ntfs-3g is not supported by ubuntu nor is it safe02:28
wildchildArafangion: did it but it's still the same not about accesing the files :S02:28
markcgnomefreak: I have a fresh dapper installation... I've added univers/multiverse updated and upgraded but for some reason the  nvidia-glx package is a mismatch to whatever kernel module I have... I'm just trying to determine what kernel I need to match up with the current nvidia-glx package (if anyone knows).. perhaps  my local repo is out of date or something02:28
wildchildArafangion: I did it*02:28
age1172i am on kubuntu edgy02:28
Arafangionwildchild: So, not working?02:28
age1172i tried the mount -a command it gave me the following errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30974/02:29
wildchildArafangion: it's not working02:29
gnomefreakmarkc: did you add any unofficial repos for beryl or nvidia 9xxx series drivers02:29
Arafangionwildchild: There's something wrong with the guest account.02:29
markcgnomefreak: not yet, fesh install02:29
gnomefreakage1172: there is no support here for ntfs-3g try the forums02:29
Arafangionwildchild: Guest parameter, rather.02:29
gnomefreakmarkc: what version is it asking for?02:29
wildchildArafangion: what do u suggest :P02:29
age1172then what can i do to have full access to ntfs drives02:30
gnomefreakage1172: ubuntu doesnt support writing to ntfs because its unsafe and very dangerous02:30
markcgnomefreak: kernel v is 1.0.7174 and X v is 1.0.877602:30
Arafangionwildchild: It's been a long time since I've had to deal with this ;)  Jut a moment.02:30
wildchildArafangion: np I have time :)02:31
Arafangionwildchild: You haven't specified a guest user.02:31
gnomefreakmarkc: make sure you are up-to-date. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade02:31
ekaGRAB YOUR AXE!02:31
thuanEven after select a partition as / and one as swap I can't continue kubuntu setup say I haven't selected a / partion yet, any idea? Kubuntu 6.1002:31
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markcgnomefreak: done that several  times but  I'll  do it again02:31
gnomefreakeka: please join #kubuntu-offtopic to continue that02:31
oslobootsplash problem: http://www.cannacola.free.fr/IMG_0011.JPG only a boot, not at shutdown ...02:32
ekagaaahhhh damnit.02:32
Arafangionwildchild: Actually, apparently it's got a default "nobody".02:32
gnomefreakmarkc: do you have linux-restricted-modules for your kernel i nstalled and what is the version02:32
wildchildArafangion:  but I made user02:32
wildchildjust didn't put it in smb.conf02:32
wildchildcouse there I made it public02:32
wildchildbut actually only "new" that I've created it and make him smb pass can acces02:33
Arafangionwildchild: You haven't got a security = user either.02:33
markcgnomefreak:  got 2.6.15-23-386 and 2.6.15-23-386, currently trying the  23 one02:33
gnomefreakmarkc: make sure they match the kernel you are booted to02:33
markcgnomefreak:  got 2.6.15-23-386 and 2.6.15-27-386, currently trying the  23 one02:33
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gnomefreakmarkc: i know 23 is not the latest kernel02:33
markcgnomefreak:  I was just booted on the 27 one with the same result, hence trying the 23 one02:34
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wildchildArafangion: so I must add: security = user02:34
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gnomefreakmarkc: what version of linux-restricted-modules do you have installed?02:35
markcgnomefreak:  I'll try apt-get install linux-686 ... and see what happens02:35
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gnomefreakthats what you need for nvidia to work.02:35
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markcgnomefreak:  I have  both the 23 and 27  restricted packjages onboard02:35
honestI've changed an NTFS drive into EXT3 but under media it doesnt show the drive, i did this using QTparted02:35
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gnomefreakmarkc: boot your latest kernel. than run sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx02:36
gnomefreakmarkc: it should fix it for you02:36
Arafangionwildchild: I generally start with the minimum set of "stuff", testparm it, make sure that it's /perfect/, then add the next bit.02:36
honesti can only think it's not mounted or something02:37
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Arafangionwildchild: And generally, it's often a good idea to be explicit.  Don't trust defaults ;)02:37
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wildchildArafangion: u saw my testparm02:37
markcgnomefreak: installing "linux-686" is getting me 2.6.15-27-686 and the equiv restricted module (I have the same 386 packages anyway)02:38
Arafangionwildchild: Yeah, it's not good.02:38
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MetaMorfoziShow can i set up fix ip for my machine in a subnetwork?02:38
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MetaMorfoziSin lan, or how it named02:39
gnomefreakmarkc: use the command i gave you on whatever kernel you want it will install the right packages. if you check the version of nvidia-kernel im betting its not matching the drivers02:39
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wildchildafter I add security: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30981/02:40
wildchild2 lines above:02:40
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markcgnomefreak: I think I might have adud dapper install anyway... I don't get a login prompt, it goes strsight to a root shell (I've installed dapper dozens of times, never had this kind of trouble before)02:42
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markcgnomefreak: I think I might have adud dapper install anyway... I don't get a login prompt, it goes strsight to a root shell (I've installed dapper dozens of times, never had this kind of trouble before)02:43
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Arafangionwildchild: As it says, it says that the security option is a global option, but you've placed it in the services.02:43
markcwoops, wrong keyboard02:43
Arafangionwildchild: Take out the 3 or so globals, and just mention it once before you mention any of the shares.02:43
snoopy1alphawill a bootable cd-iso work if I burn it onto a dvd ?02:44
snoopy1alphaah damn, just forget my question02:45
honestlol.. how the hell do i mount this drive?02:45
snoopy1alphathe computer I want to boot it on does not have a dvd drive02:45
wildchildArafangion: and with 3 or so globals u mean: passdb backend = tdbsam02:45
Arafangionwildchild: No, that was actually a typo (I'm tireD!), I meant the fact that you'd mentioned the security thingy three times, in the shares, rather than once at the top.02:46
markcbah... I am using  kernel 2.6.15-27-686 w/ matching restricted package and I  still get an  API mismatch for  nvidia-glx...  I'll have to install archlinux or gentoo or something02:46
Arafangionwildchild: You can't pretend that it's teh same as a windows system, per-share security is rather difficult on linux.02:46
wildchildArafangion: I know it's difficult02:47
wildchildArafangion: why do u mean I am bugging ppl around :P02:47
Arafangionwildchild: :)02:48
Bubba_GumpamaroK - compatible with flac ?02:48
ekaugh wtfomgbqq this tea is so strong and gross02:48
wildchildArafangion: security is global! ?02:48
Arafangioneka: Which tea?02:48
Arafangionwildchild: YES02:48
ekait's a white/green mix02:48
wildchilddamn I a, slow02:48
Bubba_Gumpeka: brew a fresh cup02:48
ekathis is fresh!02:49
ekahas no sugar in it though02:49
Bubba_Gumpeka: :D02:49
ekabut sugar in green tea is bleh02:49
Bubba_Gumpeka: as an Englishman i take my tea very seriously :D02:49
ekawhat kind of tea do you suggest for a newcomer like me?02:49
Arafangioneka: White/green? What the heck is a "white" tea?02:50
ekano clue! but that's what it said on the label02:50
Bubba_Gumpeka: a nice blended tea02:50
Arafangioneka: Some green teas are nice with a touch of honey, imho.02:50
Bubba_Gumpeka: maybe even a chai :)02:50
DzanyDo u englishmans realy put milk in ur tea? lol02:50
ekaa chai?02:50
Arafangioneka: My favorite tea is currently Black Madura - it's a nice sweet "Boring" tea.02:50
Bubba_GumpDzany: you better believe :D02:51
Bubba_Gumpeka: aye, a chai02:51
Arafangioneka: Think of an indian curry, then you'll realise what a chai must be :)02:51
ekai must aqquire chai!02:51
Dzanywhich tea do u drink with milk?02:51
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ArafangionDzany: Mostly it's the black ones.02:51
ekachai is with milk i think02:51
Bubba_GumpDzany: black tea02:51
Bubba_Gumpeka: normally honey02:51
ekaoh, oh02:51
Arafangioneka: Traditionally yes, infact the milk is slightly dehydrated as well.02:51
Dzanyi tried it with chamomilae02:51
Arafangioneka: But I quite like it without milk. (Dairy allergy :( )02:52
ekai can't believe i made this channel into a tea oriented channel02:52
ekaso chai, good with honey?02:52
daghenninghey. when I play dvds in kaffeine it flickers in full screen mode. what can I do?02:52
Arafangioneka: Yes.02:52
Bubba_Gumpeka: yeah :)02:53
ekammk mmk02:53
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ekawhat other kinds of teas are there?02:53
Arafangioneka: And there's just as many chai's as there are teas :)02:53
Dzanyi like tea with honey lemon in it02:53
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Bubba_Gumpeka: loadsa teas02:53
Dzany*honey and lemon02:53
ekai want a complete list ;)02:53
Arafangioneka: Impossible.02:53
Bubba_Gumpeka: try peppermint ;)02:53
Arafangioneka: The teashop I go to has a long list that would fit on several pages, I'm sure.02:53
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ekathat sounds gross02:54
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ekamint in a drink, no dice!02:54
h3sp4wnArafangion: try a different video output ? (be in the xine options) - If you are using onboard video there may be nothing you can do02:54
Bubba_Gumpeka: it's a very nice tea02:54
Arafangioneka: My sister likes "Autumn Spice".02:54
markcin my sources.list I have dapper main restricted universe and multiverse, and each of those for dapper dapper-backports dapper-updates dapper-security ... am I missing something ?02:54
ekaara, i'm not a chick x.x02:54
Arafangionh3sp4wn: Not me :)02:54
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h3sp4wndaghenning: ^^02:54
Dzanyyou have very strange names of tea02:54
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ArafangionDzany: We have very strange teas :)02:54
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Dzanywe too :)02:55
ekawhat kind are you going to make?02:55
Dzanybut they have use02:55
ArafangionDzany: One of the teas I've drunk had ginger and orange rind in it :)02:55
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Dzanyin medicine02:55
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h3sp4wnArafangion: Sorry just woke up (not enough caffeine yet) - java lava works best02:55
Dzanyand strange ideas of tea02:55
ekacoffee, so gross, wow02:55
Bubba_Gumpeka: i've some nice black tea, and i'll put a hint of milk in, and two sugars :)02:56
Arafangioneka: A _good_ coffee is actually very nice.02:56
ekanice nice02:56
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Bubba_Gumpeka: and biscuits for dunking :D02:56
Arafangioneka: But... it's hard to get it _good_.02:56
Dzanyof course02:56
ekahaha you englishmen are hardcore when it comes to tea02:56
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ekaaustralian eh?02:57
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DzanyI'm Serbian02:57
Dzanyand i prefer it all  lol02:57
ekawell then lets put anotha shrimp on the barb-e ;o02:57
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ekaduuuude - did president push ban vegemite from the US?02:57
Arafangioneka: Shrimp? Pah.02:57
DzanyHave u been to Exit.I know that a lot of Englishmans were here02:58
ekai heard a rumor.02:58
Arafangioneka: We call them PRAWNS02:58
ekanice, nice02:58
Arafangioneka: And yeah, they're great on the barbie :)02:58
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vyomankubuntu update from dapper to edgy failed, hangs on startup screen, using the konsole apt-get I get a list of packages not installed02:58
Arafangioneka: Though, most aussies are remarkably fussy with them, almost none even realise that the shell is edible.02:59
vyomanany idea what to do next, i thought upgrading would be easy02:59
markcheh, I have never had a barbecued prawn (I'm an aussie too)02:59
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ekacrazy, ara02:59
ekayou eat the whole shell o.o?02:59
Arafangioneka: The japanese do.03:00
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ekayou're not japanese ;D03:00
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Arafangioneka: Yes, if it's just my family around, I'll eat the whole thing - legs are my favorite.03:01
MetaMorfoziSin lan, or how it named03:01
MetaMorfoziShow can i set up fix ip for my machine in a subnetwork?03:01
Bubba_Gumpvyoman: do you boot into KDE GUI?03:01
Arafangioneka: Heads aren't too bad, though.03:01
eka. . .03:02
ekawith the brains and everything?03:02
Arafangioneka: In japan, however, the heads are considered the best part.03:02
ArafangionYeah, whole :)03:02
Bubba_Gumpshrimp is a really food03:02
tha1hey guys03:02
Bubba_Gumpthe whole shrimp :P03:02
ArafangionBubba_Gump: Do they really eat the raw, though?03:02
Bubba_GumpArafangion: the raw ?03:03
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ekahe's speakin aussie on us ;D!03:03
ArafangionBubba_Gump: Them :)03:03
Arafangioneka: NanoImnot!03:03
Bubba_Gumpheh :D03:03
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Dzanyah,lucky u,when u can travel and see all that noncens :D03:04
vyomanyes ideally we boot into the GUI03:04
tha1sorry, i didn't mean to write that03:04
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ArafangionDzany: I don't travel :(03:04
Bubba_Gumpvyoman: does your computer boot into the GUI at the moment?03:04
ekabubba, how's the tea?03:04
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Dzanywhy,when u can??03:04
vyomanno it hangs on the blue screen03:04
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tha1 i just need help to swetup my wireless card03:04
Bubba_Gumpeka: it's a really nice cup :)03:04
vyomanthe screen before the login03:04
tha1can you guys help me out?03:05
snoopy1alphabluescreen in linux?03:05
ArafangionDzany: Just haven't had the opportunity.03:05
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vyomanblue or grey or purple screen03:05
Bubba_Gumpvyoman: have you the option for downloading the edgy live cd?03:05
Bubba_Gumpsnoopy1alpha: the screen before the password bit03:05
markctha1: do you know what kind of chipset is in the wireless device ?03:05
snoopy1alphaI know ;-)03:05
vyomani need to install the missing packages the upgrade failed to install X03:06
Bubba_Gumpvyoman: have you ran apt-get upgrade ?03:06
tha1 i have a SpeedTouch 121g wireless USB card03:06
tha1i suppose i'm gonna need ndiswrapper03:06
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:06
vyomanrunning apt-get dist-update -f doesn't do anything they same list of packages not installed is listed03:06
markctha1: it might use the  ra2570  module, worth a try03:06
vyomani am now running apt-get install kubuntu-desktop03:07
vyomanand the packages are being installed, what is wrong with apt-get dist-upgrade?03:08
markctha1: try "modprobe zd1201"03:08
Bubba_Gumpvyoman: my box went down after sudo apt-get dist-upgrade03:08
Bubba_Gumpvyoman: would only load grub03:08
vyomangosh - i didn't know there are problems coming from dapper to edgy03:09
Bubba_Gumpvyoman: i had a live disc handy but i'm checking your problem out :)03:09
tha1markc: it says this:03:09
tha1FATAL: Error inserting zd1201 (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/net/zd1201.ko): Operation not permitted03:09
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markctha1: "sudo modprobe zd1201"03:09
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vyomani still get a list of packages not being updated , mostly phython stuff03:10
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tha1markc: nothing appeared O_o03:10
vyomanall the rest is installed now after using sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal03:10
vyomanthis should not happend (cry!!!)03:11
markctha1: then ifconfig -a, take note of devices, plug in usb dongle, then ifconfig -a... and see if there is  an extra net device03:11
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mnphas anyone experience with a t43p and hibernate?03:11
vyomanany APT-GET wizard know how to force package install, the -f option doesn't do anything...03:13
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markcvyoman:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall package ?03:14
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tha1markc: no,there is no extra device03:14
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tha1i can't seem to install ndiswrapper through Adept03:14
markctha1: sudo tail -f /var/log/messages (and pull out and plug back in the usb dongle)03:15
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apokryphoseka: language please :)03:15
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tha1he doesn't find the package, and doesn't give me the option to review and/or change the repos03:15
ekano pubic x.x?03:15
apokryphosthere's #kubuntu-offtopic for all other related chat03:15
Arafangionapokryphos: Actually, I think that some topics are offtopic even in there.03:16
apokryphoswell, of course. But for general chatter, non-support related, we have that channel.03:16
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apokryphosThat doesn't mean profanity (or similar bad language) is generally accepted in there, like most *ubuntu* channels03:17
Dzanynow problem: I have runed that ichat thru wine,and now,smiles r very slow,and text on tabs is like chinesse... Any solution?03:17
tha1markc: he detects the USB dongle being connected and disconnected03:17
Arafangionapokryphos: Haha :)03:17
Arafangionapokryphos: I'm a Debian guy myself.03:17
markctha1: does "sudo iwconfig" show anything when it's plugged in ?03:17
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tha1sudol iwconfig03:18
ekai heard gentoo was the win03:18
apokryphosArafangion: ah, well welcome; things are a little different here ;-)03:18
Arafangionapokryphos: I've noticed :( *sniff*03:18
tha1nop, he doesn't show me any wireless extensions03:18
ArafangionYikes, 1am again!  G'night.03:18
ekait's 6:19am here03:19
markctha1: I've got a repotec (ralink) usb wireless dongle and it only needs the zd1201 kernel module to be loaded... I've never used ndiswrapper, can't help you with that03:19
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Arafangionapokryphos: I just wish that the Debian guys realised that a _desktop_ has different needs :)03:20
Dzanyhow can I setup wine?03:20
ArafangionDzany: winecfg03:20
tha1can someone help me with the Adept part?03:20
markctha1: you'll probably have to read that docs/howto link someone posted03:20
snoopy1alphahow do I disable the suspend2ram-feature when closing the notebook-lid?03:20
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snoopy1alphaI cand rewake it whenever I did it03:21
snoopy1alphadoes . . .03:21
Arafangionsnoopy1alpha: iBook?03:21
snoopy1alphaArafangion: dell latitude c40003:22
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snoopy1alphathere is a config-file somewhere (I forgot where) but there you can switch it off, but it did not seem to work03:22
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markcI've got a dell 640m and I'd also like to know how to prevent suspend too ... same problem,    doesn't wake up properly03:22
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xsachaim loving this 3d plugin: http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3103/3dew3.png      <-- cant wait till he gives windows a depth ;)03:24
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xsacharunning beryl without aiglx or Xgl with an ati card ;)03:25
honestis there a problem with edgy and mounting drives?03:25
markcxsacha: nice one :) (I can't even get X up and running)03:25
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markcgeesus, even windows won't install on this system (supposed to be a dual boot box).. not my night03:26
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daghenninghey. how can I get Totem to play wmv files?03:27
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snoopy1alphamarkc: as I saidf there is a config-file in /etc/ but there went something wrong03:28
snoopy1alphamarkc: but unfortunately I forgot the location03:29
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markcI give up... time for bed, see ya's03:30
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sickdcan i ask?03:34
mzlitype your problem03:34
sickdi have updated to edgy from dapper03:35
sickdbut i have no kdm login03:35
sickdx starts03:35
sickdbut i don't see the kdm login03:35
mzlithat happpens.03:35
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mzlithe easiest way is reinstall.03:35
sickdi've tried dpkg-reconfigure xorg && dpkg-reconfigure kdm03:35
sickdkdm won't start03:36
sickdy see de X mouse pointer03:36
sickdi supposed that kubuntu isn't windows03:36
sickdand does need to reinstall03:36
DzanyDoes anyone knows what r default horisontal and vertical refresh rates for 60 Hz? It makes me problem when I install flgrx03:37
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DzanyI need it to write it to xorg.conf03:41
sickdDzany: try Xorg -configure03:41
sickdbut backup your old xorg.config03:41
Dzanyok tnx03:41
sickddpkg-reconfigure xorg03:42
Dzanywhat's difrerence?03:42
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Dzanybetween that 2 commands?03:43
ubotugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:43
sickdwas the glx module03:43
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sickdin conflict with fgl03:43
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sickdand X starts at vty703:43
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sickdhola suso03:45
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ekaguten morgen, suso!03:47
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ubotuqtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB03:49
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otaku-sanHow would I go about completely nuking swiftfox from my box?03:52
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Dzanywhen I try Xorg -configure it tells me "caught signal 11.Aborting"  What is it?03:53
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Bubba_Gumpotaku-san: adept will be able to remove switfox03:53
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Bubba_Gumpotaku-san: or, if installed with Automatix, use Automatix to uninstall03:54
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otaku-sanBubba_Gump: if I can remember correctly I compiled swiftfox...and dumb me forgot a command that would make uninstalling a bit easier...03:55
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otaku-sanBubba_Gump: but there is a way to uninstall it...just not as easy.  You don't happen to know do you?03:56
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Bubba_Gumpotaku-san: i'm going to have to learn the Linux commands, at the moment I use the GUI :)03:56
Bubba_Gumpotaku-san: If Swiftfox was compiled then probably not :(03:56
Bubba_Gumpotaku-san: do tell me if you manage to find a way though :)03:57
DzanyDoes anyone knows what is signal 11 error when I try to run Xorg -configure?03:57
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sickdDzany: try dpkg-reconfigure xorg03:58
Dzanythan nothing happends03:58
sickdif you use edgy try other vty's03:58
sickdi have x on vty703:58
Dzanyit is kubuntu 6.1003:58
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otaku-sanBubba_Gump: hehehe ya GUIs are nice.  Oh and there is a way...just not a very easy way.  You have to basically hunt down and destroy each little thing...tho' it keeps pretty compact03:58
nagyvis there any way to reverse an mo file to a po/pot file?03:59
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otaku-sanBubba_Gump: you won't have little files here and there haunting you! ;)03:59
Bubba_Gumphah! :D03:59
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Fir3FoxXxcan i use the "normal" debian-sources in the sources.list?04:02
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otaku-sanuhhhggg do they have firefox 2 for installing in dapper or do we have to upgrade?04:02
apokryphosFir3FoxXx: no, Ubuntu's packages are frequently very different to Debian's, and you'll probably muck up your package management04:02
nuxilFir3FoxXx no04:02
nuxilFir3FoxXx, what do you want that anyway04:03
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gnomefreak!firefox | otaku-san04:03
ubotuotaku-san: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins04:03
nuxildebians sources is like 2-3 versions older that ubuntus :P04:04
gnomefreakotaku-san: use that guide to install ff2 on dapper. it takes all of 3 minutes :)04:04
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Fir3FoxXxe.g. i want to install dhcpcd04:04
nuxilso? whats stopping you04:04
nuxilununtu has that04:04
gnomefreakdebain uses different versioning than ubuntu and thats where most of the problems stem from04:04
Fir3FoxXxit isnt available at current time...04:04
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Fir3FoxXxmaybe i have to find some ubuntu sources^04:05
Fir3FoxXxwhere can i find them?04:05
gnomefreakFir3FoxXx: its in the universe repo04:05
otaku-sangnomefreak: I'm so lazy...I could of done that... oh well thanks man!  Yes know I will be stylin and profilin04:05
nuxilFir3FoxXx, ^^^listen to gnomefreak04:05
DzanyI found this answer to my question:"Yep, xorg was broken today in release 10 and then fixed later in release 12.". How can i easily :)  upgrade X to unstable version?04:05
gnomefreakotaku-san: i gave up on ff2.0 a long time ago :)04:06
otaku-sangnomefreak: why?04:06
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Fir3FoxXxsry nuxil i'm german.... i can speak english, but i can't understand his sentence^04:06
gnomefreakotaku-san: there were alot of issues with it in edgy in the begining. plus i dont think ive ever used a stable version of ff04:06
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gnomefreakFir3FoxXx: the universe repository has dhcpcd in it04:07
Fir3FoxXxi try...04:07
nuxilFir3FoxXx ?04:07
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gnomefreak!universe | Fir3FoxXx04:07
ubotuFir3FoxXx: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:07
nuxildeb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe04:07
Fir3FoxXxi have installed kubuntu 1 hour ago^^04:07
nuxildeb http://ger.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe pherhaps04:07
gnomefreaknuxil: de04:07
nuxiloki :)04:08
nuxilme norwegian04:08
otaku-sangnomefreak: I used swiftfox 2.0 (which is basically firefox 2.0) and it was buggy...wonder if they'll have the same issues...\04:08
Fir3FoxXxhttp://packages.kubuntu.de/apt.php << check all checkboxen on this source-generation-page?04:08
gnomefreaknuxil: you dont even need a country code04:08
Fir3FoxXxsry: checkboxes04:08
nuxili know..04:08
nuxilgnomefreak, but its usaly faster to dl localy form your contru04:08
gnomefreakotaku-san: the biggest issue with ff2 is with flash atm04:08
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gnomefreaknuxil: not a differnece for me. without a CC it will route you to the closest servers. like in us it routes you to uk04:09
gnomefreakoir gb04:09
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gnomefreakor gb04:09
dhuvhello all04:09
nuxilwell its fater for me to spesify no04:09
nuxili dl it from a close by university04:10
otaku-sangnomefreak: ya...same with swiftfox...I have ff 1.5 decked out with flash beta 9 and it works like a charm...so I guess I won't break what ain't broken.04:10
dhuvI have a laptop with a minipci ipw2100 card. If I start kubuntu with it started it  complains that it cannot start eth104:10
nuxilso its way faster.. usaly between about 300-500 KB/sec04:10
gnomefreakotaku-san: i have ff3 with flash9 but ive never had an issue with flash and ff04:10
dhuvI can only boot properly when I take the card out04:10
otaku-sangnomefreak: But once they have that little issue figured out..which should be soon I'll check into it.04:11
otaku-sangnomefreak: 3?  Thru Swiftfox right?04:11
gnomefreakotaku-san: firefox 3.0 not swiftfox04:11
otaku-sangnomefreak: how...please do tell04:12
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gautamhi guys04:12
gnomefreakotaku-san: i run everything that unstable on this pc04:12
gautamgot a small query04:12
gautamwill ubuntu packages work on lubuntu?04:12
gnomefreakotaku-san: ff3 is in alpha 1 stage04:12
gnomefreakgautam: what is lubuntu?04:12
gnomefreakoh yes04:12
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gnomefreakgautam: yes04:12
gautamgnomefreak: thanks man04:12
gnomefreakgautam: same repos04:12
gautami dont wana download all again04:13
gautami did try04:13
gautamwas having issues with ssl04:13
otaku-sangnomefreak: so lucky...I have only one box...and I have to have mostly stable stuff on it...so no ff3 alpha 1 for me....04:13
gautamis that out?04:13
gnomefreakgautam: i have ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu fluxbox E17 openbox on this pc04:13
gautami though ff2 was new04:13
gnomefreakgautam: no04:13
gnomefreakff2 ius newest04:13
otaku-sangautam: it's in super alpha mode...not even beta...so it's still in the test stages...very unstable04:14
snoopy1alphawindows is strange04:14
gautamkool will try installing files again04:14
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gautamotaku-san:  ff2 works ok04:14
gautameven opera rocks04:14
snoopy1alphaI burned the kubuntu-alternate image with a free burning tool04:15
snoopy1alphathe tool did not seem to work properly04:15
gautamsnoopy1alpha:  kool good luck man04:15
snoopy1alphathe whole system crached04:15
gautamdang ;(04:15
snoopy1alphabut cd cd seems to be okay04:15
gautamdid u do a md5sum test?04:15
gautamor ran a media test?04:15
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gnomefreaksnoopy1alpha: make sure you burnt it as slow as possible like 2x if you can04:15
snoopy1alphaI tested the cd04:16
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snoopy1alphaand the tool, says it is valid04:16
gautamyes slower the better ;)04:16
gnomefreaksnoopy1alpha: did you burn it as a cd image04:16
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gautamsnoopy1alpha:  so system did not install?04:16
gautamwhat problem ur getting?04:16
snoopy1alphano there are no problems here, just wanted to tell you, about this strange thing ;-)04:17
gautamok thanks04:17
AmpaWhat is gam_server?04:17
gautamAmpa: u mean gaim_server?04:17
otaku-sangautam: I use opera too.  It's super nice...tho' I have to put flash 9 on it...and I'm to lazy to do that now! ;)04:17
snoopy1alphabut if you wanna solve a problem, tell me how I teach my kubuntu not to suspend to ram when I close my notebook-lid#04:17
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dhuvdoes anybody have their ipw2100 card working in kubuntu?04:18
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Ampa<gautam> No idea :/ is just that it uses 25% of the CPU.04:19
gautamAmpa: use the ps command or top to see the name?04:20
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gautamyep yep i see it too04:21
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gautamits a gamin module04:21
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gautamAmpa:  /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server04:22
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gautamthats the full path04:22
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uwohi all! does n1 know how to get rid of the toolbar handles?04:22
Ampagautam: when I use top and ps I  see gam_server using alot of cpu power.04:22
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gautamAmpa:  i think it is for gaim04:23
gautamif u chat a lot on gaim04:23
gautamlet me see if i can find more info04:23
Ampanope, dont have gaim at all.04:24
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dhuvhello all04:26
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gautamit says it is safe to turn it off on boot04:26
gautami just googled04:26
gautamlinuxuqestions.org has some questions on it04:26
dhuvwith the ipw2100 minipci card plugged in, I cannot boot up, I get a message saying ipw2200 eth1: failed to start the card04:26
gautamlike i said it is gamin module04:27
dhuvare there any suggestions?04:27
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Hawkwindgamin has nothing to do with gaim at all04:28
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gautamHawkwind: yep i found that out04:29
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gautamsorry my mistake04:29
gautami did correct myself later04:29
Hawkwindgamin is the replacement of fam, which isn't much better than fam was IMO04:30
gautamok thanks04:30
ehirdwhen building a package i get04:30
ehirdchecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!04:30
ehirdwhat path would that be? :)04:30
Hawkwindehird: Have you installed build-essential ?04:31
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ehirdHawkwind: yes..04:31
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h3sp4wnehird: You can get most of the X includes with the xorg-dev metapackage04:31
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gautamanyways i'm out04:32
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gautamty hawk04:32
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ehirdchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!04:34
ehirdFor more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.04:34
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ehirdbut i have qt3-dev04:34
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tobreHi, anyone know how to change video gamma and contrast. I use kmplayer.04:34
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ehirdalso it complains about libjpeg but i cant find that in the repos04:35
tha1wireless question:04:35
tha1what's the difference between the WPA conmfigured in my router and the passphrase generated by wpa_passphrase?04:35
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Hawkwindehird: apt-cache search libjpeg  gives several results04:36
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ehirdany ideas about the qt prob?04:37
Hawkwindehird: apt-cache search qt3   Many there too04:37
ehirdbut i have them installed.04:37
ehirdbut it complains.04:37
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Hawkwindehird: You have the libqt3-mt-dev package ?04:38
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lorenzo_hi! how to show Trash and Home folders on my desktop?04:38
Hawkwindlorenzo_: Right click the desktop -> Configure Desktop04:38
Sudo|Faderhvalanyone with experince with raid arrays?!04:39
zoetrope666drag and drop your 'home' folder from your 'places' menu?04:39
zoetrope666(onto your desktop)04:39
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ehirdchecking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!04:40
ehirdFor more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.04:40
ehirdeven aftering installing libqt3-mt-dev package04:40
lorenzo_Hawkwind: where is the option in "Configure Desktop" ?04:40
Nanaki_Yamabushihmm how do I update upgrade my Kubuntu distro?04:41
HawkwindNanaki_Yamabushi: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade04:41
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Hawkwindlorenzo_: It's an option when you right click on the desktop itself04:41
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Nanaki_YamabushiWhen your runnin kubuntu or does that also when your in ubuntu?04:41
lorenzo_zoetrope666: drag and drop doesn't work04:41
zoetrope666oh ok. nevermind then. :P04:42
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lorenzo_Hawkwind: I'm in "Configure - KDesktop"... now? :P04:42
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Hawkwindlorenzo_: It's there somewhere, I don't use KDE so I don't know for sure04:42
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lorenzo_ok :)04:42
Hawkwindlorenzo_: Behavior -> Show icons on desktop04:42
Hawkwindlorenzo_: First option in that menu actually04:43
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lorenzo_Hawkwind: it shows only "/" icon04:43
Hawkwindlorenzo_: You running Edgy ?04:43
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ehird... nano version is really out of date04:43
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lorenzo_Hawkwind: yes04:43
Hawkwind!hidden | lorenzo_04:43
ubotulorenzo_: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles04:43
ehirdnano version: 2.0 our version: 1.304:43
Hawkwindehird: I built nano 2.0 last night for Dapper in deb format in fact :)04:44
ehirdHawkwind: using edgy04:44
ehirdah well, i'm compiling it myself04:44
Hawkwindehird: Don't compile it04:44
Hawkwindehird: Build a deb package for it.  Very simple04:45
ehirdme want to ):04:45
HawkwindKeeps your system cleaner that way04:45
ehirdcheckinstall <.< >.>04:45
h3sp4wnehird: /msg dpkg simple sid backport04:45
HawkwindDo *NOT* use checkinstall04:45
HawkwindNo need to backport either04:45
ehirdso, what's wrong with checkinstall04:45
HawkwindBuilding the deb takes less than 5 minutes04:45
Hawkwindehird: It's horribly written and can trash an entire system04:46
lorenzo_Hawkwind: not working...  ._.04:46
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ehirdHawkwind: alright then, how do i build a deb04:46
Hawkwindehird: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5100304:46
lorenzo_in gnome there is 'gconf-manager'04:46
h3sp4wnHawkwind: Its already in sid - Its more likely to conform to the guidelines ubuntu / debian use than some random /debian directory04:46
Hawkwindlorenzo_: You need to edit the file that URL mentioned above04:47
Hawkwindh3sp4wn: That how-to I just gave builds Ubuntu specific packages.  No need to do some silly backport from sid04:47
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ehirdHawkwind: x86 64-bit Users? i'm not on 64-bit04:48
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Hawkwindehird: You don't need to be on 64Bit04:48
Hawkwindehird: That how-to will work for 32Bit systems.  It's for either04:48
h3sp4wnHawkwind: That is more time consuming when someone else has already done it04:49
lorenzo_Hawkwind: /.hidden edited...not working again :(04:49
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Hawkwindlorenzo_: It works fine in my Edgy vmware install04:49
HawkwindJucato: !!!!!!!!!!!04:49
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Sudo|Faderhvalanyone with mdadm and raid0 experience?04:50
ehirdcp -r myproject-1.2 /home/myusername/packages/myproject/04:50
ehirdcp myproject-1.2.tar.bz2 /home/myusername/packages/myproject/04:50
ehirddo i have to do that? :/04:50
ehirdit's already in a dir in my ~04:50
ehirdjust sans-/packages/04:50
Hawkwindehird: Follow the how-to exactly04:50
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Hawkwindehird: You can change/make directories whatever you want them to be04:51
Jucato!paste | ehird04:51
ubotuehird: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)04:51
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Dzanynobody knows what is "Caught signal 11.Aborting" When I try to run Xorg -configure?04:51
hyperactivecrondis there a way to take jack output and use it as stdin? for example with lame?04:51
h3sp4wnehird: You can use cdbs instead of debhelper if you wish04:51
h3sp4wnehird: when you run dh_make just select cdbs instead04:52
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tony__hello.. i installed BIND , using Adept , but i have no idea how to start the program, been searching and i can not find it04:54
h3sp4wntony__: Why do you need bind ?04:55
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tony__need to setup dns04:55
ehirdwould section be editor for nano04:56
tony__this would be my first time working with bind.. i used to use windows DNS server .04:56
h3sp4wntony__: http://www.isc.org/index.pl?/sw/bind/04:56
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tony__bind that i installed, is it shell based or dose it have GUI?04:57
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jhutchinstony__: See also http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DNS-HOWTO.html04:58
h3sp4wnThere are no gui dns servers afaik04:58
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hyperactivecrondwhat pkg do i need to install to use glib?04:58
jhutchinsUnlike Microsoft, Linux assumes you will learn something about what you're doing before you run something as potentially dangerous as bind.04:58
h3sp4wnjhutchins: That doc is for bind 8 is it not ?04:58
jhutchinsbind is bind.04:59
h3sp4wnNo bind 9 is alot more picky about syntax04:59
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h3sp4wnAnd the syntax changed substancially04:59
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jhutchinsI believe that's 9, the link to the homepage will take you to versions for 7, 8, and 9.05:00
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tony__i had a hard time using GUI in microsoft . lol.. i don't think i get it using shell on linux :P.. but thanks anyways for the links . .will go trough05:00
lorenzo__bye ;-)05:00
jhutchinsI must've gotten mine right, because it updated to 9 without complaint.05:00
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h3sp4wnUpgrading from 8/9 with alot of zones definately was not straight forward when I had to do it (Maybe the backwards compatibility increased though because I was using a very early version of bind 9)05:01
jhutchinsBind 9 has been out since 2001.05:02
h3sp4wnThis was in 200105:02
hyperactivecrondsolved my own prob05:02
ehirdoh excellent now i have to dig out the manpages05:02
ehirdjust what i wanted to do instead of just ./configure; make; sudo make install05:03
ehirdwhich, incidentally, is what i'm about to do05:03
ehirdgreat! i get an error for that too <3<3<305:04
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xavihola a todos!!05:04
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ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:05
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ehirdwhat do i need to install to get nano compiled? i know libncurses, what else05:06
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Jucatoehird: nano is installed by default05:06
Jucatoof course, unless you meant a newer version?05:06
ehirdJucato: i'm compiling nano 2.0.005:06
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Dr_willisisent there some apt command that can install the related build packates for a src deb...05:06
Dr_willisbut who knows what 2.0.0 wants. :)05:07
ehirdDr_willis: yes, it uses magic. i.e. no05:07
ehird/home/ehird/nano-2.0.0/src/browser.c:610: undefined reference to `wmove'05:07
ehird/home/ehird/nano-2.0.0/src/browser.c:627: undefined reference to `COLS'05:07
Dr_willisit proberly needs directx10, and Mono
ehirdgetting loads of things like that05:07
ehirdanybody know what i'd need to install for that?05:07
ehirdDr_willis: heh05:07
Dr_willisthat look like a bug to me. :)05:08
ehirdwell, at least it's not like emacs. that needs Windows Blackcomb05:08
ehirdanother snip:05:08
ehird/home/ehird/nano-2.0.0/src/winio.c:125: undefined reference to `wgetch'05:08
ehird/home/ehird/nano-2.0.0/src/winio.c:149: undefined reference to `nodelay'05:08
Dr_willishmm the nano homepage has a windows binaries..  :) use wine nano.exe05:09
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Dr_willisIt just compiled for me. :)05:10
ehird... bastard :p05:10
Dr_willisi got ooddles of dev packages installed.05:10
ehirdguess i'll have to learn vi!</sarcasm>05:10
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nekomatadoes anyone know which varient of SSL the ubuntu wiki uses? SSL2 or SSL3?05:11
ehirdnekomata: why, you trying to crack it?05:11
ehird... interesting05:11
ehirdi ./configured again05:11
ehirdand now make works05:11
nekomataehird: trying to figure out why Firefox wont open https pages05:11
Dr_willischecking for wchar.h... yes  checking wctype.h usability... yes05:11
ehirdbut, hmm...05:12
Dr_willisthose are from ./configure output. :P05:12
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ehird`nano` is still 1.305:12
willyalguien me ayuda05:12
willynececito hacer un instalador05:12
Dr_willisit may be in a differnt part of the path.. cd to the src dir and run that nano. :P05:12
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nekomatalooking at about:config seems to show that ssl2 is disabled05:12
estigmaalguien me ayuda05:12
estigmanecesito hacer un instalador05:12
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ehirdDr_willis: yeah but i wanna know where it shooted itself to so i can overwrite my usr/bin copy :p05:13
estigmanecesito hacer un instalador con java izq05:13
Dr_williswatch the install scripts. :P05:13
estigmaayuda porfavor05:13
ehirdI can't find anything in them ;/05:13
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:13
h3sp4wnehird: Get it from the feisty repos05:13
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h3sp4wnehird: (It has already been synced from sid to there by the looks of it)05:14
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ehirdno. i don't want to break anything.05:14
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ehirdfiesty = break05:14
h3sp4wnehird: add a feisty deb-src line05:14
h3sp4wnehird: and then apt-get -b source05:14
Ayabarawhat vo_driver do you use for mplayer in kubuntu? anyone know how to enable postprocessing in  ~mplayer/config?05:14
Jucatonew Ubuntu releases are always synced from Sid in the beginning05:14
h3sp4wnehird: You won't break it by having the deb-src line05:14
ehirdq: after make installing something its safe to delete the source dir right05:14
h3sp4wnJucato: They are only interesting in the beginning05:15
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Jucatothey're even more interesting a few days before the release05:15
Jucatothe excitement and the anxiety05:15
h3sp4wnIts been frozen for ages by that point05:15
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|mp|is there a .deb PowerDVD anywhere?05:16
ehirdnano 2 is in /usr/local/bin05:17
ehirdso can i just delete the nano in /usr/bin?05:17
Dr_willisehird,  may want to rename it. :)05:17
Dr_willisor remove the package.05:17
BluesKajtry devede24 , |mp|05:17
Dr_willis-------->  <ehird> no. i don't want to break anything.05:17
Dr_willisso its best to proberly just remove the nano package. THEN isntall the one from source.05:18
Dr_willismay be better to use the source and that autopackage feature to make a deb out of it.05:18
deepuwhat is the pass of root in Kubuntu?05:19
Jucato!sudo | deepu05:19
ubotudeepu: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.05:19
ehirdi just removed nano package :)05:19
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arrautzahow can I identify a direcction on the sourse list??05:19
nekomatathere is no root05:19
Dr_willisdeepu,  you refering to the live cd? or an installed section.05:19
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Dr_willisarrautza,  identify ?05:19
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deepuwhen i want to install font for SYSTEM, he ask pass for roots05:20
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Dr_willisdeepu, use the first isntalled users password for 'rooty things' :)05:20
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deepui install for personnal05:20
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h3sp4wnTaking the pre made debian source from feisty would work fine05:21
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arrautzaDr.Willis: i add some oficial adress to he source, but the aptget command say sommething lke05:21
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Dr_willisarrautza,  you did do a 'apt-get update' after changing that file?05:21
Jucatodon't mind  me... I'm under the influence of alcohol... good thing I'm not driving :P05:21
nekomatait's not abuse if the drugs are willing?05:21
arrautzalike" can't get autentification " or some thing like that05:21
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Jucatonekomata: lol05:22
arrautzayes i did it05:22
ehirdis there a way to make nano use the extra space at the bottom for more ^<x>'s displayed instead of spacing?05:22
otaku-sanJucato: Hey there.  What've you been up to?05:22
h3sp4wnIts not abuse as long as you still sleep right (us fighter pilots get given speed before missions)05:22
BluesKajjust had a BLT with mayo ...waits for the cholesterol to plug things up05:22
Jucatootaku-san: drinking :P05:22
Dr_willisarrautza,  thats the pgp key issue, that you need to get from the repos to verify them. just a warning from apt on a potential security issue.05:22
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JucatoDr_willis: don't you mean GPG?05:22
Dr_willisJucato,  proberly. :)05:23
WhatsupWhat do you think about 6.10?05:23
otaku-sanJucato: Hahaha drink and hack!  ;)05:23
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JucatoI think 6.10 is Edgy :P05:23
Whatsupis it good?05:23
arrautzahow can i get it ( the pgp key )?05:23
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Jucatoit's Edgy05:23
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Dr_willisWhatsup,  works great for me.05:24
BluesKajVG so far IMHO05:24
ubotuapt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)05:24
Jucatoarrautza: usually, the page where you get that specific repository has instructions to download and add a "key"05:24
WhatsupI have some problems with it after the upgrade.05:24
arrautzaok.. thanks05:24
ehird... whyd oes nano ignore my nanorc file now05:24
JucatoWhatsup: in Edgy's case, if you have backups or if /home is on another partition, it's best to do a fresh install....05:24
BluesKajexcept for configging samba on my windows network ...I have permission "issues"05:25
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Dr_willisehird,  it hates you?05:27
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kezefhow do you change the init boot thing?05:27
ehirdDr_willis: yes, great answer, thank you.05:27
kezefi want to make it init 305:28
kezefand i cant remember where the file is..05:28
kezefim on edgy05:28
Dr_willisehird,  almost as good as complaining somthing you made from source, and expecting support in here eh. :)05:28
Hawkwindkezef: You boot to CLI now ?05:28
Dr_willisehird,  let me check my nanorc05:29
jhutchinskezef: Init 3 is identical to init 2 (default).05:29
jhutchinsUbuntu does not follow the normal runlevel conventions.05:29
kezefwell, i want to install the graphics driver, and thats the only way i can do it.05:29
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kezefwell what runlevel is terminal and no xserver?05:29
Dr_willis## Please note that you must have configured nano with --enable-nanorc05:29
Dr_willis## for this file to be read!  Also note that this file should not be in05:29
Hawkwindkezef: killall kdm if you're using kdm05:29
BluesKajtrying to use komba2 to access shared files on my windows network but i receive this error message: , smbmount exited with errors. smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000). smbmnt failed: 105:29
wildchildhow can I set max upload speed particully for one torrent? (with Ktorrent)05:30
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jhutchinskezef: You'll need sudo to do that.05:30
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kezefthanks jutchins05:31
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drebeldoes anyone have problems burning with k3b on kubuntu 6.06.1?05:32
Hawkwinddrebel: Not I.  What are you trying to burn ?05:32
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Dr_willisehird,  compile nano with   ./configure --enable-nanorc         :)05:32
drebelim trying to burn just data cd or dvd and it says io error and gives me a coaster05:33
Dr_willisehird,  at first i thought that option was a nano runtime option.05:33
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arrautzaubuntu have second names, like edgy or dapper, does kubuntu too??05:34
Jucatoarrautza: it's the same05:35
h3sp4wnsame ones05:35
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Jucatoat least we have names to call them... and they are far from cute anyway05:35
h3sp4wnfeisty ?05:35
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Jucatomakes us unique though... and it seems that other distros are now "publicizing" their codenames too05:36
Dr_willisI perfer "Farting Fawn" :)05:36
h3sp4wnI want grumpy groundhog (not interested in any of the others really)05:36
JucatoFscking Fawn probably05:36
Dr_willisOf course if the 'version' numbers actually ment somting other then just the date of release....05:36
nekomataSleeping Sloth?05:36
Jucatobut you do know what grumpy really is, and why it might never be released05:36
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Dr_willisthey may be a little more usefull.05:36
h3sp4wnJucato: I know exactly what it should be05:37
Dr_willisPsycopathic Panda05:37
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h3sp4wnJucato: But the things I do want from svn getting them from grumpy groundhog would be easier than building them all the time05:37
nekomataCommie Codfish05:37
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Firetechh3sp4wn: is there a grumpy groundhog? I haven't heard anything about it since the idea came somewhere between hoary and breezy...05:38
h3sp4wnJucato: By its definition it is supposed to be never released05:39
h3sp4wnFiretech: Its has been on various agenda's all the time05:39
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h3sp4wnFiretech: Never seems to happen05:39
Dr_willisHow about "Beta Beta" :)05:39
ubotuktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1155 kB, installed size 5032 kB05:39
Jucatoit's sort of a testing ground05:39
arrautza jucato : mmm.... how do i know the one i'm using?05:40
h3sp4wnJucato: Does it actually exist now ?05:40
Jucatoarrautza: lsb_release -a05:40
Jucatoh3sp4wn: Grumpy? haven't asked05:40
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wildchildIs there a way with ktorrent to set max UL speed just for ONE torrent and not global??05:41
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Dr_willisI was thinkin that such limits can be a bit hard to do.05:43
Dr_willisi dont see that feature in utorrent.exe either.05:43
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Dr_willisit can set high/med/low bandwith for a specific torrent.. but not specificially for up/down for that torrent.05:44
kezefhey hutch, that didng work.05:44
kezefwhat runlevel is terminal?05:44
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Firetechkezef: toy mean console? 1, or halt? 005:45
drebelHelp! i get this error when trying to use k3b.    Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root?05:45
drebelwhat can i do05:45
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h3sp4wndrebel: try running kdesu k3bsetup05:45
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drebelhow do i do that05:45
Jucatoor install cdrecord :)05:45
francoishey everyone, whats a good website authoring tool for kubuntu ?05:46
JucatoQuanta Plus?05:46
nekomatakate ^.^05:46
Jucato(other options are Nvu and Bluefish)05:46
Firetechyeah, try Quanta05:46
JucatoKate's good too. if you're into hard/hand-coding your pages :)05:46
h3sp4wnJucato: cdrecord is a dependancy of k3b05:46
Jucatooh :)05:47
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Dr_willisls -l /usr/bin/cdrecord05:47
Dr_willis-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 133 2006-08-17 08:57 /usr/bin/cdrecord05:47
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francoisok thanks all05:47
Dr_willisits not SUID on this machine..05:47
nekomataI think I had one too many bad experiances with website authoring tools in the early days ;o)05:47
francoisme too, stupid notepad05:47
Dr_willisoh for the good ole days.. of nice static sites...05:47
francoisgiant tables were everywhere, lol05:48
nekomatanotepad was relatively good, compared to the graphical ones05:48
h3sp4wnavoid flash and java (and you actually get the most interesting sites anyway)05:48
Dr_willisthen silly web tricks of the week... "oh lets use frames for a navigation panel" - lets use Tables and blank gfx to indent stuff...05:48
Firetechlike Netscape Composer, which made a new font tag for eachg property05:48
Jucatonever used Dreamweaver or Frontpage... just notepad..05:48
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francoisyeha i'm not a fan of either of those, specially since flash doesn't display right on my computer anyways, lol05:48
mike_hi guys, what would the syntax be to search the current directory and all sub-folders for all files ending with '.rb' or '.rhtml' that contain the string 'foo'?05:48
mike_using grep, I assume05:49
h3sp4wnmod_perl + template toolkit (and html tidy if your webdesigner gives you junk in dreamweaver)05:49
h3sp4wnmike_: find .rb -exec grep "foo" '{}' \; -print (but that is only one at a time - canot remember the syntax for or with find)05:52
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BluesKajWhat does this mean and how do i fix it ? Trying to use komba (samba network browser to access the windows network and shared files .  "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts"05:53
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h3sp4wnmike_: I usually have to look at the find man page for more complicated ones05:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about suid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:54
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|joe|is here anybody thinking he is good at configuring udev? can't get rule for my IR working05:57
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Dr_willisBluesKaj,  the smbmnt binary must be set "suid" - smb4k has the same  need.05:59
Dr_willisthe tool to unmount the smb shares must also be SUID for the users to unmount the shares05:59
Dr_willis-rwsr-sr-x 1 root root    8672 2006-07-11 09:28 smbmnt05:59
Dr_willis -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root    6088 2006-07-11 09:28 smbumount05:59
Dr_willisnote the 's'05:59
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h3sp4wnsudo chmod +s `which smbmnt`06:03
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Sudo|Faderhvalhow do i log in to secure mode ??06:03
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susosoy novato estoy en el Adep Installer y no tengo instalado el Package Manager06:05
susoalguien me puede decir como instalarlo?06:05
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draikMy laptop can't seem to remember the root password that I have set06:06
draikHow do I make it remember?06:06
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draikwhat file do I modify?06:06
draikhi timgluz06:07
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|joe|draik: you mean your password or root pw? ubuntu doesn't have root account enabled out of the box06:08
|joe|draik: you can change your pw by running 'passwd'06:08
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draik|joe|: root pw. I did   "sudo passwd root" to set the pw, but it won't remember it06:09
draikand I need it for maintenance06:09
draikCan't log into my laptop at all06:09
draikerrors with Kubuntu partition06:09
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draikI don't have a prompt06:10
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Sudo|Faderhvalcan anyone tell me how i log in, in secure mode??06:10
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draik|joe|: I want to run fsck on the partition, but I can't do it without root pw or even a prompt to attempt sudo fsck06:11
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Sudo|Faderhvalrescue mode even06:11
Dr_willisboot to single user mode - may be a good idea. or use a live cd.06:12
|joe|draik: i don't understand06:12
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draik|joe|: Give root password for maintenance (or type Control-D to continue):06:12
draikCTRL-D reboots06:13
|joe|draik: and how did you boot?06:13
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arrautzahow can i install flash player 9 beta?06:13
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draik|joe|: I rebooted because my laptop was lagging with 100% CPU and RAM w/ ~ 20% SWAP06:14
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draik1GB swap06:14
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|joe|draik: hmmmm never had this, do you have a cd/dvd? can you try to boot from it and run fsck there?06:15
draikI will06:15
draikI do AND I will06:15
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|joe|draik: ok i see06:16
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|joe|draik: sorry i can't help you here; the root account is disabled by default, and i'm not sure what checks are done at this prompt06:17
|joe|draik: maybe you'd have to enable the root accout first06:17
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draik|joe|: What options should I do for fsck?06:17
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|joe|draik: ext3 or what do you have there?06:18
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robertosalve a tutti06:19
Sudo|Faderhvaldraik try sudo passwd root06:19
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ehirdwhat's the ./configure switch to enable syntax highlighting in nano?06:19
robertoi hi06:19
|joe|Sudo|Faderhval: did already06:19
draikSudo|Faderhval: I did. My laptop can't seem to hold on to that information06:19
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robertogood evening at all the people here06:19
robertoi need help whit Amarok06:20
|joe|draik: maybe usermod --unlock root06:20
robertoanyone may help me?06:20
draikSudo|Faderhval: I try to avoid rebooting my laptop at any cost. Never remembers root for some strange reason06:20
draikwill do06:20
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|joe|draik: if  you take a look into /etc/shadow you can figure out whether the account/pwd is valid06:20
robertoci sono italiani ?06:21
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ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:21
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apokryphosroberto: ^06:21
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elias_This is how I believe things should be done in ubuntu and kubuntu alike: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/efficient-coding-strategy06:34
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xsachahmmm a tip: do not create files starting with a dash and having one letter!06:36
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WhatsupWhy not?06:37
xsachacause when a wildcard expands, programs seem to take the filename as an option06:39
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draik|joe|: Sudo|Faderhval: Once I have done fsck, I can reboot my computer from livecd to hdd?06:39
xsachaWhatsup:  finished making file called test, then mv test -test06:41
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ubuntuhi all06:48
adz21cI don't seem to be able to get my graphics card to work correctly, can anyone offer any assistance?06:48
Whatsupwhich one adz21c06:49
adz21cNvidia FX590006:50
WhatsupDid you install the drivers06:50
adz21ci am trying to use legacy drivers since that is what i used in dapper06:50
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adz21cyup, tried ones off nvidia.com and the .deb's06:50
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Whatsupand what is the problem06:50
adz21ci can't launch anything like glxgears06:51
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adz21cit says i got no glx extension, but its there in the xorg.conf06:51
h3sp4wnuse either the ones from nvidia.com or the deb's (if you try to do both it will mess up)06:51
adz21ci have06:51
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h3sp4wnexactly tried both means your system is now in any number of states06:53
adz21ci mean06:53
adz21ctried seperately06:53
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usamahashimihi all07:10
usamahashimihow can i restore my grub?07:11
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h3sp4wngrub-install --recheck --no-floppy --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda (something like that look at the grub-install man page)07:12
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mihi.. if anyone can help... I'm trying to install a package with apt-get but I get: Package ia32-libs-gtk is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:12
miis there anyway I can install it?07:12
h3sp4wncheck you have all the repos enabled07:13
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usamahashimih3sp4wn: i did this but it said that no stage1 found (somthing like that)07:14
mih3sp4wn: tks07:15
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h3sp4wnusamahashimi: I am not sure (I use a seperate /boot partition so what works with me for grub doesn't work for most people and leaves me guessing a bit)07:15
h3sp4wnusamahashimi: try it without the --root-directory part07:15
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akohow do i register my nickname?07:18
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Hawkwind!register | ako07:19
ubotuako: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration07:19
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kezefhow do you kill the x server?07:32
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gnomefreakkezef: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop07:33
kezefif i do that it wont let me run any commands07:33
kezefi want the terminal.07:33
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kezefhow do i get to the terminal?07:36
kezefwithout running the x server07:36
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farshidhi to all07:37
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RobNyc[] wow my kubuntu edgy ati x1600 pro running xgl+beryl its so unstable actually its buggy anyways .. is it my fglrx ?07:37
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farshidwha is this here07:38
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dcookhas anyone intalled citrix on kubuntu07:39
dcooki just  did and it's not working07:39
dcooki think I'm missing a library or someting07:39
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dcookkind of a remote desktop thing07:41
kezefhmm have you tried removing then reinstalling07:41
dcooki just installed it07:43
dcookit appeared to install correctly07:43
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BluesKajWhat does this mean and how do i fix it ? Trying to use komba (samba network browser to access the windows network and shared files .  "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts"07:43
kezefhmm.. any error messages?07:43
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dcookit says something about libXm.so.307:44
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kezeftry apt-getting it07:45
dcookthere isn't a package for it07:45
dcookthere isn't a package for it07:45
dcooki installed it from the package from citrix07:46
kezefjust noticed that07:46
dcooki'm new at this07:46
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Kim^JAnyone knows a media center program like the Windows Media Center for KDE?07:51
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h3sp4wnFor using with tv etc ?07:52
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Kim^Jh3sp4wn: No... Just a cool program where all media KDE things are collected.07:52
Kim^JI don't have a TV card in this laptop. :)07:52
h3sp4wnDon't know about a "cool program" what I think is cool people think often isn't07:53
stefreak__A program really like WMCE?07:54
Kim^Jstefreak_: Something like it.07:54
stefreak__or can amaroK do it roo?07:54
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Kim^JJust another unneccessary thing i would like to brag about.07:54
Kim^JLike a UI for Amarok/Kaffeine/Mplayer and such... Something like that.07:54
stefreak__i dont know a program like that for linux07:55
Kim^JI always try to get new cool stuff so I can brag about them at the Windows people in the class.07:55
Kim^JThey thought AIGLX/Beryl was really cool.07:56
Kim^JAnd some people where so jealous that they said: It's so ugly!07:57
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h3sp4wnI think vista has a much nicer colourscheme than the default {k}ubuntu one07:57
Kim^Jh3sp4wn: Isn't to hard to change thought.07:57
Lam_i'm installing cedega and it says i'm missing python-gtk2.  do i install python-gtk2, or python-gtk2-dev?07:57
h3sp4wnNo one ever seems to provide a decent black one07:58
Kim^JLam_: Are you compiling?07:58
h3sp4wnKim^J: True but consistancy between gtk and qt apps is hard with most themes07:58
Lam_Kim^J: since cedega is proprietary, i would assume not. it's a deb file07:58
Kim^Jh3sp4wn: I prefer white/blue.07:58
Kim^JLam_: Then the one without -dev07:58
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Lam_Kim^J: ok thanks07:58
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Kim^JLam_: You know that you can do comiling the cvs version of Cedega?07:59
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Lam_Kim^J: what advantages does that have?07:59
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Kim^JMore bugs.07:59
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h3sp4wnAlot more difficult to get working if you don't know exactly what you are doing08:00
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Kim^JAnd that ofcourse.08:00
h3sp4wnIt doesn't have the gdb profiles for the games08:00
Lam_Kim^J: yeah. i don't really know if i want to, but i could give that a shot.  some cvs versions are pretty stable (mplayer), whereas others could be buggy (gaim)08:00
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Kim^JLam_: Don't use Gaim. It's NOT ready for anything I would say.08:00
Kim^JKopete is just so much better. Well atleast for MSN.08:01
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Lam_Kim^J: i don't know. i prefer gaim.  kopete seems very lacking in features. it can't even do proper oscar protocol file transfers08:01
fidohi everybody!08:01
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mav_Hello all, I have a question regarding Krita08:01
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fidobye everybody08:01
mav_I've read that it supports PSD v608:01
Kim^Jmav_: Hit it,08:02
Kim^Jmav_: Use GIMP.08:02
mav_But in my open dialog I don't see that08:02
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mav_I know Gimp have some basic PSD support08:02
mav_But I like Krita more08:02
mav_Without layer effects = basic08:02
Kim^JI can open and modify and play all I want with PSD from PS 9.008:02
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Kim^JAnd I got the layer effects that my bud had put in.08:03
mav_Well, I'm not a designer, I only use Krita/GIMP to cut files I get from my designer08:03
mav_So Krita doesn't have it ?08:03
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Kim^JI dunno. I never even touch Krita.08:03
wildehello is there anyone from poland  ??08:03
mav_I am08:04
wildeneed help08:04
wildecan u start08:04
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wildemam blokade od ciebie08:04
wildena spam08:05
mav_Wejdz na #kubuntu_pl08:05
mav_If Krita supported PSD I would use it only08:07
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mav_Now I have to save every file in multiple png's ;/08:07
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root_hi room08:09
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root_i cannot login anymore since an upgrade to edgy, but startx from console works08:09
BluesKajroot ...change your nick now !08:09
root_BluesKaj, y?08:09
BluesKajnever login as root08:10
root_i know08:10
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root_pls help me, thats the only way for me to login right now08:10
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root_h3sp4wn, are u there?08:10
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BluesKaj /nick  newnick08:10
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jack11so anybody an idea?08:11
jack11its with the x-authority08:11
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timgluzkuidas tartus kulgeb?08:15
tobreIs anyone know something about Kubuntu Remote places?08:16
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tobreI made there SSH connection, but I can't remove it.08:18
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tobretimgluz: kes sa oled?:P08:20
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max_hi, i replaced the motherboard on my computer and everything is going fine except i have no sound, i even put a sound card in a PCI slot to see if it was the onboard sound messing up and i have no sound from that either08:21
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max_anyone alive in here08:24
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tobreNo, I think.08:24
max_anyone alive in here08:25
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max_hi, i replaced the motherboard on my computer and everything is going fine except i have no sound, i even put a sound card in a PCI slot to see if it was the onboard sound messing up and i have no sound from that either08:29
adz21cmax_: if you launch something like kmix does it even see your sound card(s)?08:30
max_only onboard08:30
adz21cok, but it actually acknowledges your onboard car exists?08:30
max_i guess08:31
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max_im not sure08:31
max_how can i tell08:31
adz21cwell if you launch kmix the mixer window has a combo box with a selection of sound devices, does it have any08:31
max_i dont see a box with a selection of sound in it08:32
max_the sound system in system settings has it08:32
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max_like "autodetect" "alsa" "open sound steyem" etc?08:33
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adz21cu've lost me on that one :-)08:33
adz21coh wait i know what ya mean now lol08:34
max_is that what your talking about?08:35
adz21ci am thinking of the application kmix08:36
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adz21cit puts a speaker like looking thing in the systemtray08:36
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max_all i see on kmix is output input and switches08:36
adz21chmm it might not appear if it only has one then08:37
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adz21cmine has a combo box on the right with selection for my webcam (has mic) and sound card08:37
max_ya the speaker is there08:37
adz21cwell do u have sliders on output?08:37
max_there all up08:38
adz21cany got like green lights above them?08:38
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max_the combo box, is that under output input or switches08:38
max_they all do08:38
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adz21cits above them next to "Current mixer:"08:39
max_the only cxombo boxes i have are mic select    IEC958 playback source  and   mono output source08:40
adz21cok np, not important, as long as it sees a card08:40
adz21cwhat u got under switches?08:40
max_headphone jack, line jack sensors, mic boost, IEC985, mix, mix mono, external amplifier, stero mic08:41
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adz21cu got normal stereo plugged in right? no kind of digital output to amp?08:43
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max_nope, speakers plugged right into soundcard08:43
adz21cwhat sound card is this by the way?08:43
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max_i dunno, some generic one ive had lieing around for a while08:44
adz21clol ok, ummm08:44
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max_i tohught oit might be a sotware thing so i booted up on a Konnopix live cd and still no sound08:44
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adz21cu got "KInfocenter" under system in menus?08:44
TonrenWhen I try to play last.fm audio stream in amaroK, it says "No suitable input plugin", and tells me there also might be a network error.  I'm using Ubuntu 6.10 (not Kubuntu).08:45
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max_tonren: #ubuntu08:45
Tonrenmax_: K.  No one was answering there, so I figured I'd try here08:45
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adz21cTonren: you might need a plugin to use last.fm, I don't know I never tried, tried googling for it?08:46
max_yes, i have that08:46
Tonrenadz21c: Yep!  Google hasn't turned up anything08:46
karlHi :)08:46
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LetherianCan anyone help me with a wine-issue, please? :)08:47
adz21cmax_: launch it and go to sound, whats it say?08:47
max_says abuncha stuff08:48
max_Letherian: #WineHQ08:48
Letherianthanks :)08:48
max_adz21c: which part do you need to know08:49
adz21cmax_: i don't know, i am cluching at straws for maybe a clue lol08:49
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max_sound driver, installed drivers, card config,  audoi devices, or mixers?08:51
adz21caudio devices08:51
max_0: Intel08:52
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max_oops, hang on08:52
max_0: Intel ICH5 (DUPLEX)08:52
adz21ctry running "sudo alsaconf" in konsole?08:53
LjLalsaconf isn't installed on Ubuntu i think08:53
adz21coh ok08:54
max_what are you running?08:54
adz21ckubuntu, but i saw it on a forum for guy with same problem08:54
max_i could understand onboard not working (could just be a motherboard problem) but why woulndt a sound card work?08:55
adz21cpoor drivers maybe08:55
max_how could i get more?08:55
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adz21cthey usually compiled with the kernel so i wouldn't know how08:56
adz21ci think08:56
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intelikeythis is the place to ask windows questions isn't it ?08:56
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max_maybe intelikey can help, hes helped me before08:56
intelikeyi tried ##windows  but they never acknoledged me08:56
LjLwell i don't know about that, but this is definitely not the place to ask Windows questions...08:57
intelikeycan/does the windows xp defragmenter consolidate free space ?08:57
LjLi think it does and that's why it's so slow08:57
h3sp4wnIt cannot defragment the page file though08:58
max_Ljl: any ideas on my problem?08:58
LjLno but then you can remove the swapfile (and be careful to not load too many programs...), then defragment, and then recreate the swapfile08:58
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adz21cmax put this in console "lsmod | grep snd_ich"08:59
intelikeyi'm trying to defrag an xp for someone for a resize... if left to me the resize would be rm ntfs and mke2fs  but it's not mine.08:59
LjLmax_, i think i wasn't even here when you stated it originally. i guess it's "i have no sound" though?08:59
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max_hi, i replaced the motherboard on my computer and everything is going fine except i have no sound, i even put a sound card in a PCI slot to see if it was the onboard sound messing up and i have no sound from that either08:59
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LjLmax_: does "cat </dev/urandom >/dev/dsp" give any sound?08:59
max_ill try09:00
LjLintelikey anyway AFAIK using the XP defragmenter *should* help consolidating space in order to resize a partition09:00
intelikeythe graph in the defragmenter shows four major congestions of files with large free spaces between.... both the before and after look the same..... ?09:00
max_no, no sound09:01
h3sp4wnintelikey: You need to turn off the virtual memory first or its useless09:01
intelikeyh3sp4wn ah ok.  i'll shoot that one in the foot and see what happens.09:01
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LjLmax_: no error either?09:01
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max_h3sp4wn: you have any ideas on my problem?09:02
max_LjL: no09:02
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LjLmax_: are you sure it's not a mixer problem? modern soundcards can have a *lot* of mixer controls, some of which a bit cryptic...09:02
max_its not a modern soundard09:03
max_its old09:03
LjLmax_, how do you know that Ubuntu is now trying to use that PCI soundcard rather than the embedded one?09:03
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max_i dont09:03
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h3sp4wnmax_: Don't have edgy here no idea09:04
LjLmax_, then i guess it's still trying to use the embedded card, which probably does have many mixer controls09:04
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LjLconnect something to it and try putting every slider to the max and every switch to On09:04
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intelikeyh3sp4wn i turned vertual memory off  but do i need to reboot for it to affect anything ?09:05
LjLmax_, keep trying the cat </dev/urandom >/dev/dsp thing, not MP3 players or somesuch. can you type "amixer controls" and pastebin the output?09:06
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hazardanyone have any experience with apache?09:07
whtiger711anyone have a useful program for ubuntu that i can download fromhere09:07
LjLi have experience with it crashing in debian testing, but aside from that, no09:08
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LjLwhtiger711: uh?09:08
whtiger711someone is trying to teach me to use linux based os's     they said you can get programs from other people through irc09:09
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LjLwhtiger711: that's a very bad idea.09:09
LjLwhtiger711: get programs from the repositories instead09:10
LjLUbotu, please tell whtiger711 about repos09:10
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whtiger711well i would have to say that should help alot more then trying over irc    thank you LjL09:12
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doctormohey all09:14
doctormobit of a problem with beryl09:14
h3sp4wnintelikey: I would have thought so09:14
doctormothe window decorations don't apear. they flicker on for a second then disapear09:14
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KazetachiHi all. Could use some help with the upgrade from Dapper to Edgy.09:18
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kezefwhats a good place for apps?09:28
Hawkwindkezef: What do you mean ?09:29
Dr_willisfor news of new things. :P is a good place to have a live bookmark for.09:30
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kezefwell, i need plugins for amarok09:30
kezefthe cddb wont find the cd names09:30
Hawkwindkalenedrael: kde-look.org ?09:30
kalenedraelYou mean kezef? :P09:31
kezefthats waht i was thinking.09:31
galathalionwhy dont i have any sound in opera anymore? :O09:31
kezefi like your name Kalendrael, reminds me of an angel09:31
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Hawkwindkalenedrael: Heh, sorry09:31
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kezefim starting to hate edgy09:33
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kezefi remember in dapper i had a crapload of progs09:33
kezefand now all i have is like 10 things09:33
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Dr_williscrapload of things that you never used. :)09:33
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kezeflol so true.09:33
kezefbut it was fun to look at!09:34
kezefthats what matters09:34
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kezefwhats a good graphics prog for linux09:34
kezefsomething different from gimp..09:34
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howefieldguys, can some one help me out and give me a pointer on how to install grub after wiping the mbr09:35
Dr_willisdepends on the job you want to do.09:36
Dr_willisI saw a SVG image editor the other day.. not GPL but free... but i cant rember its name09:36
Dr_willisaparently its popular under windows.. and they now have a linux port.09:36
Dr_willishowefield,  boot live cd, chroot to the / of the system, rerun update-grub09:36
AV1611 BTW, did anybody ever tried to work at UBUNTU at NEC low-end laptops (M500, P520))? What were your impressions with it?09:36
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Dr_willisI ran ubuntu on a Pent1 - 100 laptop.09:37
Dr_willisit worked. :P09:37
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howefieldthanks Dr_willis09:37
AV1611that's great, but I meant some laps like Cel 1.x09:37
sybux!wiki mp309:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about wiki mp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:38
WomperHi, I updated from 6.06 to 6.10 today, everything works fine, I think, except for my wireless, ndiswrapper is installed but my wireless adapter does not show up when I type iwconfig09:38
LjLUbotu, please tell sybux about mpe09:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:38
sybuxcan some1 please tell me which package I need to install to listen mp3 I can't find09:38
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LjLi never ever get that right09:40
LjLlibxine-extracodecs anyway09:40
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shinobi2if i use redirection to read inputs, ./a.out <data.dat, and i am using FILE *fp to do it with scanf. Is ./a.out really taking the input or fp is reading it from the directory regardless of the < redirection?09:41
shinobi2wrong channel09:41
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LjLshinobi2: yeah, and the question doesn't make much sense :P if you're using a FILE pointer, i guess you're also using fopen() to open an actual file09:41
LjLand then using fscanf rather than plain scanf09:42
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Dr_willisthe KUBUNTU FAQ mentions what pacnages are needed for different programs to play/use mp3's09:43
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sybuxI'm using a multimeda keyboard. Is there a website where I can download xmodmap for my keyboard (it's a logitech)09:46
ubotuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs09:47
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Dr_willis"Hello, my name is Dr_willis  and Im a Linux Addict"09:49
howefieldDr_willis, can I ask you a further question, if I use a program like Acronis True Image to back up my partitions, to try out another version, eg, 6.06 to 6.10, and don`t like 6.10, I could re image my partitions and get the relevant grub back ?09:49
howefieldhope that made sense09:49
sharakatoanybody can help telling me how can i install grub from a live CD__09:50
Dr_willisGrub is normally easier to just have it reinstall itself. then to try to restore it.09:50
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Dr_willisTo restore grub i normally do the following..09:50
Dr_willisget a live cd, boot it, chroot to where my / Normally is.09:50
Dr_willisrun update-grub09:50
sharakatothanks Dr_willis09:51
howefieldright, so I could re image my drives, pop in the live cd for the relevant version and go through your method, I`d be back in business ?09:51
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adz21canyone know where i can get the kdevelop package for edgy amd64?09:51
shaddarhow can i configure my wlan so that it connects to a network the time the network is in range ?09:52
howefieldI suppose the worst that can happen is a complete reinstall, hehe09:52
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Dr_willishowefield,  ive used different live cd's once ya chroot - the live cd dont really matter.09:56
adz21cwhen i first log in all the colours are bad (as if I have it set to a low colour settings) soon as i launch something like glxgears it all corrects, any ideas why this might be?09:56
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howefieldcheers, many thanks10:01
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littlebirdHey get the word out on chemtrails people.10:05
littlebirdThe black ops part of the government is trying to poison and slowly kill it's population through the skies with it's chemtrail program.10:05
littlebirdDuring clear skies, white spew planes at high altitude silently spew out long white lines of chemtrails. The first type of these trails consist of very fine aluminum particles. These dissapear from sight about as fast as normal plane contrail would. These heat up the atmosphere for better chemtrail dispersal.10:05
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littlebirdThe other ones slowly widen and disperse and eventually hit the ground giving people a whole range of respiratory problems and deadly diseases.10:05
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littlebirdSome of these diseases include Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Multiple Sclerosis, Alzheimer's and a whole wide range of other dibalitating and deadly afflictions that can be triggered anywhere from the immediate to many, many years later down the road.10:06
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littlebirdHere are some links if anyone wants to look into the illegal government activites that are going on.10:06
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Dr_willisWow... proof that people belive anything...10:06
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ejmhey, I'm wanting to setup kubuntu for my parents' desktop.10:07
ejmAnyway, I have the official kubuntu 6.06 cd.10:07
sybuxcan1 some1 help me resolving my mp3 listen issue ?10:07
ejmAnd it has a buffalo wifi card that I put in.10:07
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_doppelganger_hey guys, anyone ever have trouble seeing the menus in Audacity?10:08
_doppelganger_where file, edit, etc would be, there are just white rectangles10:09
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Dr_willissybux,  and the issue is?10:09
Dr_willis_doppelganger_,  that sounds like a font issue.. but not seen the problem, ive rarely used  Audacity10:09
_doppelganger_or can anyone recommend a comparable audio editor for KDE?10:10
sybuxI can't listen mp3 even after adding libxine package10:10
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Dr_willissybux,  listen with what program.10:10
ryanakcalittlebird: no pasting please10:10
ryanakcagrr lag10:10
ryanakcawhy can't I install fonts?10:10
ryanakca148s lag10:10
sybuxDr_willis: amarok10:10
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_doppelganger_Dr_willis:  strange...   every other font in KDE is fine10:11
_doppelganger_maybe i'll load up with beryl and see if i can see anything10:11
_doppelganger_one sec10:11
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_doppelganger_strange...  still nothing10:14
_doppelganger_ah, well...  i'll go hunt for another sound editor10:14
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_doppelganger_Dr_willis: ahh...  guess there is a bug-   http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg97218.html10:16
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sybuxDr_willis: do you have any idea ?10:18
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dennisterg'day all :)10:19
howefieldsybux, what version of amarok are you using ? when I loaded it up for the first time and tried to play an mp3, it offered to go and get the required files in order to play mp3s10:20
howefieldversion 1.4.310:20
sybuxhowefield: I'm running 1.4.310:20
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DeshOk, so I updated to 6.10, everything works, I can connect thru WLAN if I use the CLI commands, but wlassistant does not wanna work. Any clues?10:21
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howefieldsuppose you`ve tried removing and reinstalling ?10:21
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dennisterDesh: wlan assistant is still one of those problematic items with edgy10:22
sybuxhowefield: not yet. Can you please indicate me how to remove amarok ?10:22
LjLsudo apt-get remove amarok10:22
howefieldthrough adept10:22
howefieldor synaptic10:22
DeshAh ok, any other thanks dennister, any ideas on another GUI app that would allow me to connect WLAN?10:22
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sybuxhowefield: as you want10:23
dennistersorry, i'm afraid i don't use wlan on this pc; it's just something i read in the release notes/changelog10:23
sybuxhowefield: ok I'll do it with adept10:23
Deshok thanks :-D10:23
howefieldright, hope it works out10:23
sybuxhope too10:24
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ademancan checkinstall keep track of binary installers? (*.run installers and whatnot)10:24
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dennistergtg pps...ubuntu linux event here in toronto10:28
gautamhi guys10:28
dennisterjust thought i'd check in :)10:28
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sybuxhowefield: yes !!! it's working. I've removed the libxine-extracodec and reinstall but as I haven't enabled the multiverse, when I've done the upgrade to edgy, this package haven't be updated !!10:31
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sybuxhowefield: ^^ now for a good job, I'll see a little Saint Saya !!10:34
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gautamman kubuntu sucks10:38
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gautamubuntu is better10:38
ElectrolyteI don't understand how Kubuntu could suck.10:39
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ElectrolyteIt's exactly the same as Ubuntu, except it uses KDE.10:39
gautami know10:39
gautamadept dont work10:39
gautamwhat ever u try to install10:39
gautamit gives error10:39
ElectrolyteWorks here.10:39
gautamsynatpic was so easy10:39
ElectrolyteObviously you're broken it.10:39
fannagogannagautam, what seems to be the problem?10:40
gautamdont think10:40
gautami just installed it10:40
fannagogannawith adept, could you be more specific?10:40
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gautamwhenever i try to install10:40
gautamsay for eg firefox10:40
gautamgives a break error10:40
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gautamthen wont install10:40
gautamdep. failed10:40
fannagogannadid you first do an adept upgrade?10:40
fannagogannathen an install/update?10:40
gautamadd repos too10:41
Dr_willissince both programs are front ends to the apt-get system... i would be impressed if synaptic works while adept faile...10:41
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fannagogannawhat are you using, Dapper or Edgy?10:41
Dr_willisor course you could use the shell and perhaps get some more error messages/info.10:41
gautamDr will i know it is strange10:41
gautambut i never had issue with ubuntu10:41
gautameverything worked on it like a charm10:41
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Dr_willisive never had an issue with either. :)10:41
Dr_willisapt-get install synaptic            - and see.10:42
fannagogannaI wonder if you could try something -- run an apt-get install adept10:42
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Electrolytehahaha @ thingy :D10:42
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Dr_willisI dont even hang in #ubuntu any more10:43
Dr_willistooo many 'hold my hand and teach me linux fundamentals, i dont want to read' questions..10:43
gautamit says not found10:43
Dr_willis!info adept10:44
ubotuadept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB10:44
thingyI don't like trolling...but with a topic like that....I almost have an urge to go into #debian and pretent to be a newbie ubuntu fan boy and ask questions...just to annoy them. heh10:44
fannagogannahmm, it's very hard for me to see what's going on without mucking around myself10:44
Dr_willisthingy,  im suprised that most ubuntu newbies would even know to go in there.10:44
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fannagogannaperhaps they know IRC, but are newbies with respect to Linux, KDE, or (K)ubuntu10:45
fannagogannait's not a crime10:45
thingyDr_willis: Ironic that they chose to put that comment in the topic then.10:45
fannagogannain fact, that's why Ubuntu was created -- for newbies10:45
gautamlets see how it goes10:45
gautamwish me luck10:45
Dr_willisthingy,  Linux is all about Irony. :)10:45
gautami mostly use slackware10:45
fannagogannafrankly, I'm surprised sound support in Linux is still pure voodoo10:45
gautamor ubuntu10:45
Dr_willisIve started to use slackware a few times.. but never could  get my self to actually use it.. other then a slax live cd or 210:46
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thingyfannagoganna: what! since when...Ive havent had to scarifice a goat to get sound working since...like 2 months ago!10:46
gautami love slackware10:46
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fannagogannagood for you :)10:46
Dr_willisI cant rember the last time i had a sound issue under linux.. :) but it pays to have a decent card.10:46
fannagogannaexactly, and therein lies the problem10:46
Dr_willisdont get me started on the WIRELESS problems i am having under WindowsXP.10:46
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fannagogannait should work on every card10:46
Dr_willisand It IS supported card/Os/whatever...10:47
Dr_willisactually ive had more sound issues under windows then linux.10:47
ElectrolyteSame here.10:47
fannagogannaso is my cmipci card, and yet sound in is still a complete nightmare to get working10:47
ElectrolyteI get so many blue screens under Windows.10:47
GeckoHey there. I am experiencing an annoying lag on youtube, and possibly everything flash-related. Anyone know of this and got a fix?10:47
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fannagogannabut in truth, all OS's are crap10:47
ElectrolyteI wouldn't say that.10:48
ElectrolyteI adore Kubuntu :)10:48
fannagogannathey're not what I would consider "good" unless they're as reliable as the human heart, and as intuitive to use as the human nipple10:48
gautami call it winblows10:48
gautamit is MS= MiroShit10:48
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!10:49
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gautamfdoving:  sorry10:49
gautami think i need to install all lib files10:49
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gautamanyway ty guys10:49
fannagogannaso gautam, if you want I can muck around through your system trying to fix your adept10:49
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gautamhave a gr8 day/night10:50
Dr_willisBesides slamming windows is too easy...10:50
gautamfannagoganna:  thanks man, i'll manage10:50
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gautamlater guys10:50
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stephenhello all10:52
thingyhello there cable dood!10:52
stephenQuestion to you all. Am I the only one that is having issues burning DVDs10:53
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Dr_willisstephen,  ive burnt proberly 90+ dvd's this last month with no coasters...10:54
stephenLucky you. I have upgraded two machines to edgy and neither of them can burn DVDs now.10:55
Dr_willisI never upgrade.. i always do clean installs.10:55
stephenThey can read and burn CDs fine.10:55
Acc\DenyHi. su on the command line works but something kdesu doesn't seem to work... therefore i can't use many things in KDE.10:55
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Dr_willissounds like the various dvd-burning-tools dident get set right.. run k3b from a terminal and see if any errors are shown?10:55
stephenI should rephrase. One was an upgrade, the other was a reinstall.10:56
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Acc\Denyi would add here that i changed the root password by booting into the the 'recovery mode' console prompt10:56
thingyAcc\Deny: when you use kdesu which password are you typing in...and for gods sake don't type out the password here :-)10:57
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Dr_williswhy did you have to use the recovery mode for that?10:58
Acc\Denythingy: hello! I type the password which works for su :)10:58
Dr_willisset the root and first users passwords to be the same. :)10:58
thingyAcc\Deny: su password not equal to sudo password and kdesu needs sudo password10:58
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thingyAcc\Deny: sudo password = your login password10:58
fdovingAcc\Deny: you can configure kdesu to work with su, if you want.10:58
thingyAcc\Deny: oh and hello10:58
Acc\DenyDr_willis: i somehow forgot to create a normal user during installation and when i booted i felt like i reached a dead end10:59
Dr_willisfrogot? heh10:59
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Dr_willisyou dident use the live cd installer and make your first users name 'root' did you?10:59
thingyAcc\Deny:  how did that 845 install prob. turn out ?11:00
Acc\DenyDr_willis: it was like the 5th install which FINALLY booted... i have been having all sorts of WEIRD problems.11:00
Dr_willisAcc\Deny,  eww....  thats odd...11:00
Acc\Denythingy: luckily the vga=771 worked during text mode install... but still can't go beyond 800x600 into KDE.11:00
Acc\DenyDr_willis: i m using the alternate install cd11:01
Acc\Denyinto X *11:01
Dr_willisAcc\Deny,  yea - i always use that one also. ;)11:01
Acc\DenyI still am trying to figure out WHAT kind of brain invented this live installer CD... toooo Risky....!11:01
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MPSis here someone running edgy on a HP nc6120?11:02
Acc\Denymy Kppp doesn't start either is this related to kdesu?11:02
Dr_willistheres way to many diffrent live-installer programs out.. a lot have some very good features.. but they need to get worked on.11:02
Dr_willisthe idea of a live-cd-installcd- is handy however.. but i think it needs to be made a lot smarter.11:02
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Acc\DenyDr_willis: at least it should have a text MODE INSTALLER :)11:03
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Dr_willisAcc\Deny,  i agree there.. and the live cd also includes some windows software (if you put the cd in a windows box) - which i feel wastes space.11:03
Acc\Denythingy: how do i change the sudo password? how do i configure kdesu? :)11:04
Dr_willisand it should have some nice helper 'rescue me from my screwup' tools.11:04
Acc\DenyDr_willis: ditto11:04
Acc\DenyDr_willis: yup11:04
Acc\DenyDr_willis: i think it also has no option for grub... not sure though...11:04
thingyAcc\Deny: do you have a user you can loginto kubunut as...other than root?11:04
Dr_willisI noticed the slax live cd. can be used to boot a cd image from a hard drive/usbstick. :)11:04
Dr_williswhich is a neat trick..11:04
Acc\Denythingy: yup11:05
Dr_willisbut i think it can only boot  the slax mages..11:05
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Acc\DenyDr_willis: well i have been on knoppix lately... dunno about slax11:05
Acc\Denythingy: thats how i get into KDE :)11:05
Uh-DuhAcc\Deny: sudo11:06
Dr_willisknoppix is handy :) slax has some neat tools that let you toss together a custome cd easially.11:06
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Uh-Duhi need to reset sudo password.  how11:06
Dr_willisI liked that SaxonOS live cd.. it could then netboot OTHER machines  so with 1 live cd' ya could boot several on the network.11:06
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Acc\DenyUh-Duh: u mean i type that in a shell windows inside KDE?11:07
Dr_willisthe 'sudo' password is the first users password isent it..11:07
thingyAcc\Deny: to give this user sudo privs...type in "adduser yoursuername admin" as the root user...this will put the user in the admin group and now you can use sudo/kdesu etc11:07
Acc\Denyadd him in the admin group11:08
Uh-Duhi need to reset sudo password11:08
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thingyUh-Duh: sudo password == your username's password...so simply login as your user and in the konsole type in passwd and specify a new password11:08
Uh-DuhDr_willis: that user no longer exists11:09
Dr_willispainted yourself into a corner eh?11:09
Uh-Duhthingy, that user no longer exists11:09
Uh-Duhwell, drive crash11:09