[12:11] <yalu> |joe|: those drivers are gpl!
[12:12] <|joe|> yalu: the better for you :)
[12:12] <yalu> only their web site is a bit messy
[12:12] <|joe|> yalu: i was considering brother as well but bought then lexmark e232 ... pcl5e, also no problem
[12:13] <nagyv_> is it normal if my wireless card is always sending/receiving packets (led is blinking), although I am not connected to anything?
[12:16] <thingy> dergringo|afk: This url is in a different language...but the important thing i can make out from it is a change in the configuration file...look at the two source= statements and see if yours are currently set up like this right now http://www.wififorum.pl/ftopic10899.html
[12:18] <yalu> heh, it asks the root pwd of another host
[12:20] <dimsuz> hi! for some reason apt-get upgrade want's to downgrade gcc to 4.0 (4.1.2 now). Why? :)
[12:20] <glimmung> hi all, been thinking about trying out kubuntu, can anyone tell me about it first? Like will it handle my ipod? what firefox does it have? does it have amarok? are there free servers for me to update from?
[12:21] <dimsuz> or they'll co-exist?
[12:21] <dergringo|afk> thingy: thank you very much it worked with wifi0 instead of ath0... but thats a strange thing because "iwconfig" tells me the following: wifi0     no wireless extensions.
[12:22] <thingy> dergringo|afk: did the url help then? i couldnt understand what it said...but I saw the smileys in the end of the thread and so assumed that the guy fixed his problem with what the other guy said
[12:22] <Kubuntu> !kopete
[12:22] <ubotu> kopete: instant messenger for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 6825 kB, installed size 18932 kB
[12:22] <dimsuz> glimmung: it doesn't have firefox by default, but you can install it. And, yes, it has amarok
[12:22] <thingy> glimmung: and yes the servers are free and don't know about the ipod since havent tried one
[12:23] <glimmung> what would you say is the most positive thing about it?
[12:23] <thingy> glimmung: it has a great community www.ubuntuforums.org http://kubuntuforums.net/ and the irc channels are helpful!
[12:23] <glimmung> and do you know if they have a firefox 2.0 available?
[12:23] <|joe|> dimsuz: cannot tell anything about ipod
[12:24] <dergringo|afk> thingy: yes as I said the Interface seems to respond on "wifi0" instead of "ath0"
[12:24] <thingy> glimmung: yes it does have ff 2.0
[12:24] <thingy> dergringo|afk: ah ok
[12:24] <glimmung> hmm tempting
[12:24] <dimsuz> glimmung: most positive thing: it exists :D
[12:24] <|joe|> dimsuz: sorry -> glimmung
[12:24] <dergringo|afk> thingy: and that is strange because "iwconfig" tells: wifi0     no wireless extensions.
[12:24] <thingy> glimmung: what are you runnning right now?
[12:24] <glimmung> its number one on distrowatch, and it seems to have bumped pclinuxos off
[12:24] <Sanne> glimmung: here's some stuff to read, if you like: https://help.ubuntu.com/
[12:24] <dergringo|afk> thingy: but tnak you :)
[12:25] <thingy> dergringo|afk: np
[12:25] <dergringo|afk> thingy: thank*
[12:25] <|joe|> glimmung: well i think positive is the release cycle as well
[12:25] <thingy> glimmung: its been on top of distrowatch for an awfull long time i think
[12:25] <dimsuz> |joe|: np :)
[12:25] <glimmung> right now Im running pclinuxos, Ive been a hardcore slackware user for about 5 years, but lately just wanna go with freindly user distros, tired of spending hours configuring stuff
[12:25] <dimsuz> once again: for some reason apt-get upgrade want's to downgrade gcc to 4.0 (4.1.2 now). Why? :)
[12:26] <thingy> glimmung: pclinuxos has a good community as well or so i heard...since most of its members are adults
[12:26] <thingy> glimmung: and help full
[12:26] <|joe|> thingy: as #kubuntu is ;-)
[12:26] <|joe|> hehe
[12:26] <thingy> heh
[12:27] <glimmung> yeah but pclinuxos is miffing me lately, they are crippling some things to make users pay donations to have access to update servers and I dont like that
[12:27] <|joe|> gotta go to bed, half past midnight
[12:27] <dergringo|afk> >_<
[12:27] <thingy> glimmung: hmm
[12:27] <|joe|> bye
[12:28] <glimmung> well, I'll give ubuntu a try, but I hate gnome, so I guess I'll get kubuntu
[12:28] <Sanne> glimmung: you could try the desktop cd (which is a live cd also) and see how you like the Kubuntu way of doing things.
[12:28] <glimmung> was thinking about it
[12:28] <thingy> glimmung: well if you have questions...post in the forums as well as come ask here depending on how quickly you want it solved
[12:30] <Sudo|Faderhval> wotcha!
[12:31] <glimmung> is edgy the live cd?
[12:31] <glimmung> ubuntu is based on mandriva right?
[12:32] <thingy> !repositories
[12:32] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[12:32] <Sanne> glimmung: no, on Debian: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship
[12:33] <glimmung> but its a rpm based distro isnt it?
[12:33] <Sanne> glimmung: no, deb
[12:33] <glimmung> i thought debian packages were called .deb
[12:33] <Sanne> right
[12:33] <glimmung> hmm, so its a debian
[12:33] <Sanne> glimmung: check out packages.ubuntu.com
[12:36] <luca> hi everyone
[12:36] <luca> anybody knows how to fix a broken swap partition definition in fstab
[12:36] <luca> ?
[12:36] <glimmung> so edgy eft is the live cd, and once ive tried it I will have an option to install?
[12:37] <glimmung> whats wrong with it luca?
[12:37] <hyperactivecrond> is it possible, with qjackctl, to take output from jack and encode it? for example with lame or whatever?
[12:37] <luca> glimmung: the swap is not mounted
[12:37] <luca> because it is ill defined
[12:37] <luca> the definition under blkid and fstab are DIFFERENT
[12:38] <glimmung> ubuntu uses grub doesnt it? I would know how to fix your problem with lilo luca
[12:38] <luca> I am using kubuntu...I think I have lilo installed, let me check the system settings
[12:39] <Sanne> glimmung: yes, you can install from the desktop/live cd, or you could download the alternate cd which is not live, has a text based installer, but you can use it as a repository (which you can't with the live cd).
[12:39] <glimmung> isn't kubuntu just ubuntu with kde default?
[12:40] <hyperactivecrond> glimmung: yes
[12:40] <luca> uhm yes - but I recalled wrongly to have seen lilo in the system settings
[12:40] <hyperactivecrond> luca: lilo is only used by default if you use jfs/xfs
[12:40] <luca> which is not true
[12:40] <glimmung> yeah I think all deb based distros use grub
[12:40] <luca> eh I guess
[12:40] <hyperactivecrond> iirc grub and those fses don't mix
[12:40] <luca> any ideas w/out lilo?
[12:41] <luca> or I could install it, it is in the repos - provided it will not cause more mayhem than there is already
[12:41] <glimmung> my only guess, and this is a wild guess, would be to run makeswap and once its made rerun grub config tool, but that has a chance of trashing everything
[12:41] <luca> :)
[12:41] <luca> uhm good
[12:41] <luca> modifying manually the fstab^
[12:41] <luca> ?
[12:41] <glimmung> that might work if you know what youre doing
[12:42] <luca> does anyone here?
[12:42] <glimmung> but I think grub config will modify fstab for you
[12:42] <glimmung> not 100% on that though
[12:43] <shwag> ~/.bash_profile says "the default umask is set in /etc/login.defs" , but I changed the the UMASK setting in login.defs, and  $ umask , still says 022
[12:43] <glimmung> wow, the kubuntu server is fast, I downloaded the disk in 5 minutes
[12:43] <luca> twenty minutes last time
[12:43] <luca> at least for me
[12:44] <Sanne> luca: I could paste my fstab swap line, if it would be of any help
[12:44] <glimmung> so does anyone in here have any experience with kubuntu and the ipod?
[12:44] <luca> Sanne: maybe, I do not really know :(
[12:44] <Sanne> luca: ok, sec
[12:44] <luca> thanks
[12:46] <Sanne> luca: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30909/
[12:47] <finalmad> ciao a tutti
[12:47] <finalmad> c' qualche italiano?
[12:47] <Sanne> luca: you could paste both your definitions of your swap, maybe we can find out what to do then.
[12:47] <LjL> !it | finalmad
[12:47] <ubotu> finalmad: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:48] <hyperactivecrond> is there any way to capture output from jack and direct it to stdout?
[12:50] <luca> Sanne: thanks now I will do
[12:50] <Sanne> luca: ok
[12:52] <luca> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30910/
[12:52] <luca> for the fstab
[12:53] <oslo> i looking 4 an app which record my mouse movement & clik and wich can drawing it again
[12:53] <luca> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30911/
[12:53] <luca> for the blkid
[12:56] <Sanne> luca: uoh... I never saw those UUID entries, I'm afraid it looks to unfamiliar to me to attempt helping you with that. Can somebody else please try to help luca with the swap partition?
[12:56] <luca> thanks in any case Sanne :)
[12:56] <Sanne> luca: you're welcome :) Wish I could help more...
[12:57] <X-Forte> any person on/line _
[12:57] <X-Forte> ?
[12:57] <damian_> yeah
[12:57] <X-Forte> i need an help
[12:57] <X-Forte> damian_: you use ubuntu_
[12:57] <damian_> you'll need to login as root
[12:57] <damian_> and do rm -rf /
[12:57] <X-Forte> damian_:
[12:57] <Sanne> luca: if nobody here knows, you could alsotra to ask in #ubuntu, since I don't think this problem is kubuntu specific.
[12:58] <damian_> yeah do that first
[12:58] <damian_> X-Forte: rm -rf / is the command
[12:58] <X-Forte> damian_: i am not a beginer of linux
[12:58] <Sanne> damian_: stop that!
[12:58] <X-Forte> so shit
[12:58] <X-Forte> damian_ is n=damian@ip229-135.outside.westmont.edu (Damian)
[12:58] <X-Forte> lool
[12:58] <X-Forte> this is your ip_
[12:59] <X-Forte> you want to go to ping time out _
[12:59] <X-Forte> ?
[12:59] <X-Forte> so shut up if you do not want that
[12:59] <X-Forte> Sanne:
[12:59] <Hawkwind> X-Forte: Enough
[12:59] <X-Forte> i need an help
[12:59] <ralf__> hi
[12:59] <Hawkwind> damian_: Please don't give advice like that
[12:59] <X-Forte> Hawkwind: any comment_
[12:59] <X-Forte> ?
[01:00] <Sanne> X-Forte: I'd love to help, but I don't know the answer, sorry
[01:00] <ralf__> fuck
[01:00] <LjL> !language | ralf__
[01:00] <ubotu> ralf__: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[01:00] <hyperactivecrond> ubotu: please tell ralf__ about coc
[01:00] <ralf__> ok
[01:00] <X-Forte> Sanne: i want to close the port 21 and 23 but with ip tables are still opened
[01:01] <X-Forte> so if i reciving a icmp flood trough the port 21 or 23 i recivie that ..
[01:01] <nagyv> how I can I connect to an ftp server using konqueror with a username like abcd@efgh + a password?
[01:02] <Sanne> X-Forte: oops, I just realized you didn't ask your question before... hehe, sorry. But I don't know about closing your ports either, sorry.
[01:02] <markelhas> ppl need help to share a printer over a network
[01:02] <apokryphos> __mikem: what's the problem?
[01:02] <luca> uhm the #ubuntu channel seems unreachable - I go to the #ubuntu-unregged... o_O
[01:02] <AV_Guy> Semi-newbie question about Edgy and the generic kernels -- is the older 686_SMP kernel better or worse then the new generic kernel for a P4 3ghz HT?
[01:02] <Sanne> nagyv: just type it in the location line like: ftp://user@ftphost
[01:02] <Hawkwind> luca: Known issue right now.
[01:02] <__mikem> apokryphos nalioth just took care of it
[01:03] <nalioth> luca: they are telling you what you need to do in #ubuntu-unregged
[01:03] <markelhas> also need help to config ktorrent cant ddl
[01:03] <markelhas> any one!?
[01:03] <Sanne> nagyv: you can also save it to your bookmarks, or create one before connecting.
[01:03] <hyperactivecrond> luca: /msg nickserv register
[01:03] <hyperactivecrond> !tell markelhas about guidelines
[01:04] <nagyv> Sanne: how?
[01:04] <luca> right
[01:04] <markelhas> hyperactivecrond: sorry didn't understand
[01:04] <Sanne> nagyv: the bookmarks?
[01:04] <hyperactivecrond> markelhas: it's cool
[01:04] <markelhas> hyperactivecrond: can u help me out?
[01:04] <hyperactivecrond> !tell markelhas about samba
[01:04] <nagyv> Sanne: yes, how can I create one withouth connecting to the site?
[01:05] <markelhas> hyperactivecrond: !?
[01:05] <hyperactivecrond> markelhas: that's windows file/printer sharing
[01:05] <markelhas> hyperactivecrond: nopes printer is on kubuntu and need to share for other kubuntu and windows
[01:06] <hyperactivecrond> markelhas: then set up samba. kubuntu can connect. windows can connect.
[01:06] <markelhas> hyperactivecrond: already installed in this kubuntu
[01:06] <hyperactivecrond> markelhas: set up sharing of that printer thru samba
[01:06] <markelhas> hyperactivecrond: don't now how to do it
[01:06] <hyperactivecrond> !samba | markelhas
[01:06] <ubotu> markelhas: samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:08] <Sanne> nagyv: here's what I did. Click Bookmarks/Edit Bookmarks, in the new dialog right click on the Bookmark entry and choose "new folder", maybe call it Ftp. Then right click on Ftp and choose "new bookmark", then type in appropriate entries in the fields for Name and Location. Location being the line: ftp://user@ftphost
[01:08] <nagyv> Sanne: thanks a lot
[01:08] <Sanne> nagyv: you're welcome
[01:08] <nalioth> X-Forte: you had a question?
[01:09] <nalioth> X-Forte: you can ask in here
[01:11] <X-Forte> yes
[01:11] <X-Forte> i want to close all ports on linux ..
[01:11] <X-Forte> so configure the firewall of iptables ..
[01:11] <micktm> hi!
[01:11] <X-Forte> and the firewall of shorewall
[01:11] <micktm> I've got a problem with the screen resolution in kubuntu
[01:12] <Hawkwind> Doesn't shorewall have a GUI to do all of that for you ?
[01:12] <micktm> it should be 1200 x 800...
[01:12] <micktm> but I can't go beyond 1024 x 768
[01:13] <micktm> I've an ATI X700, I've already installed fglrx drivers...
[01:13] <X-Forte> Hawkwind: no ..it s wih commands
[01:13] <X-Forte> so ..
[01:13] <laervian> uhm everybody too busy it seems :(
[01:13] <micktm> but i can't remember the command to configure X
[01:14] <micktm> someone can tell me it?
[01:14] <nalioth> !tell micktm about xcfg
[01:14] <nalioth> X-Forte: have you used firestarter ?
[01:15] <X-Forte> yes
[01:15] <X-Forte> but the port is opened ..
[01:15] <X-Forte> i have droped the port to all incoming and outging
[01:18] <nalioth> X-Forte: i have ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu all installed at the same time, and use the programs that work best for what i do
[01:19] <WC> how can I wiew video on the net if it requires micro media player??
[01:19] <X-Forte> so what are the best
[01:19] <X-Forte> ?
[01:19] <WC> which package do I need to install?
[01:20] <Hawkwind> !codecs | WC
[01:20] <ubotu> WC: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:21] <WC> Hawkwind: I need plug-in for firefox, like I've installed flash!
[01:21] <X-Forte> nalioth: i want to know the best in stability of the system
[01:21] <WC> don't need codecs!
[01:21] <nalioth> X-Forte: you can have all of them installed with no effect on stability
[01:21] <X-Forte> but i want to use one no more
[01:21] <X-Forte> so the best i want to use ..
[01:22] <X-Forte> i use suse but ubuntu i dont know much
[01:22] <X-Forte> it's new ..
[01:24] <X-Forte> in ubuntu 6.10 i have recivied an bugy report and i haved to formatt the hard disk
[01:24] <X-Forte> so ..
[01:27] <wildchild> when I click on a link to play video, firefox start lookig for plugins and it says: unknown plugin application/x-mplayer2. How can I install plug-in to play video
[01:27] <paul_> does anyone have an internal intel 2200bg that uses kubuntu, im having some trouble configuring it. i can see the ap's but not connect to them, even without security settings enabled
[01:28] <yalu> it works! it wooooooooooorks
[01:28] <Sanne> :)
[01:28] <Hawkwind> drakan|away: Please don't announce your away messages in public
[01:28] <Hawkwind> Ackkkkkkkkkkkkk
[01:28] <Hawkwind> !away > drakan|away
[01:28] <nagyv> wildchild: there is (at least) a kaffeine and an mplayer plugin, which one do you prefer?
[01:28] <yalu> but 600 dpi?? the box mentions 2400x600 dpi... what am I missing?
[01:29] <wildchild> onagyv: kaffeine
[01:29] <wildchild> what's the name of it
[01:30] <nagyv> wildchild: install the kaffeine-mozilla package using adept
[01:30] <nagyv> wildchild: in my case it does not play videos embedded in the browser, but opens up kaffeine for it
[01:31] <nagyv> if I remember well, then mplayer has a truly embedded viewer also
[01:31] <wildchild> hm
[01:31] <wildchild> than I should install mplayer
[01:32] <markelhas> hi ppl
[01:32] <markelhas> i'm trying to share a printer from a desktop (kubuntu) to this kubuntu and a windows machines
[01:33] <markelhas> i've read the papper but can't manage to share it
[01:33] <markelhas> any tips!?
[01:33] <markelhas> *papers/wikis
[01:34] <glimmung> well, I downloaded and burned the kubuntu disk, but x wont start
[01:34] <mia> hey all.  i messed with my drives and the uuid changed for my windows partition...  is that supposed to happen?  i forgot how to get the new one, how does that go?
[01:34] <glimmung> it looks like it tries to start kde, but then boots me back out to commandline
[01:34] <markelhas> !samba
[01:34] <ubotu> samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT
[01:34] <Jucato> !UUID | mia
[01:34] <ubotu> mia: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid"
[01:35] <nagyv> wildchild: I think it is called mozilla-mplayer, but a search for mplayer inside adept will give you the result for sure
[01:35] <mia> ubotu: it doesnt have a UUID anymore, can i still mount it with ntfs-3g
[01:35] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about it doesnt have a UUID anymore, can i still mount it with ntfs-3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:35] <mia> Jucato: that was to you
[01:35] <mia> Jucato: not to ubotu
[01:35] <Jucato> mia: you checked using blkid? all drives are supposed to have UUID's
[01:36] <mia> mia@mia-desktop:~$ blkid
[01:36] <mia> /dev/hda1: TYPE="ntfs"
[01:36] <mia> /dev/hda2: UUID="23d8c672-2460-4715-8e5f-a9e306f5a1be" TYPE="swap"
[01:36] <mia> oops
[01:36] <Jucato> hm...
[01:36] <mia> well you get the idea
[01:36] <Jucato> err... yeah. ntfs doesn't have UUID it seems. hold on
[01:37] <Jucato> hm.. that's strange...
[01:37] <wildchild> nagyv:  thx for that but I have new problem: when I click on a link that should play some video it says: firefox doesn't know how to open this adress becouse the protocol (mms) isn't associated with any program.
[01:37] <mia> Jucato: do i need the uuid to mount it with ntfs-3g?
[01:38] <nagyv> wildchild: yes, this is a very nice problem :)
[01:38] <Jucato> I'm not familiar with ntfs-3g. but Edgy uses UUID in fstab
[01:38] <mia> well i can mount it by hand so lets find out i guess
[01:38] <nagyv> wildchild: while I find the answer try to google for the problem
[01:38] <wildchild> k
[01:38] <Jucato> mia: "ls -al /dev/disk/by-uuid" to see the UUID's, including the ones for ntfs
[01:39] <Jucato> mia: "sudo vol_id -u /dev/partition" will also show you the UUID for a particular partition. so that would be "sudo vol_id -u /dev/hda1"
[01:40] <Jucato> now I have to go. brb :)
[01:40] <mia> Jucato: thanks its working now
[01:40] <nagyv> wildchild: in firefox open the page about:config
[01:40] <nagyv> search for network.protocol-handler.app.mms
[01:41] <nagyv> if you can't find it, then create a new text item with this name
[01:41] <nagyv> and give it the value /usr/bin/kaffeine
[01:41] <nagyv> as you can see this will hande the mms protocols using kaffeine
[01:42] <nagyv> wildchild: you can use the same method for lasfm (amarok), and callto (skype, or else) links ;)
[01:43] <wildchild> I am still at finding config folder i firefox :S
[01:44] <wildchild> I've cut my finger today :\
[01:44] <wildchild> not whole ...
[01:47] <dhuv> hello all
[01:47] <dhuv> I am trying to run alsaconf but it is not in the alsa-utils package that comes with kubuntu edgy
[01:48] <dhuv> I am using dpkg -L alsa-utils and notice that alsaconf is not in the output
[01:48] <thomas_> yooo!
[01:48] <LjL> dhuv: i don't think it's in *any* package actually
[01:48] <dhuv> does anybody know how this can be fixed, besides downloading the tar from the alsa-project site
[01:48] <dhuv> LjL: I am having a problem with alsa and the guys in #alsa told me to run that
[01:49] <dhuv> but I cannot :)
[01:49] <LjL> dhuv, i understand, but i don't know what to tell you. alsaconf simply doesn't seem to be shipped in edgy, according to my apt-file
[01:50] <mia> where do i set the default session in kdm?
[01:50] <rahmetli> i cant boot into my kubuntu after update,and there were 3 couple of kernels and recovery modes in the grub screen.
[01:51] <dhuv> LjL: should I remove that package and install the from the tar?
[01:51] <LjL> dhuv, no, i really cannot recommend that. perhaps try installing the tar *in /usr/local/* (or somewhere that's not the root filesystem) and run alsaconf from there
[01:51] <LjL> probably should take care that the versions match
[01:52] <dhuv> can I just compile it and run it without make install?
[01:52] <dhuv> should that work?
[01:52] <Jucato> how about alsamixer? does that do the same thing as alsaconf?
[01:52] <josh__> anyone else experiencing difficulty accessing repositories using apt-get update?
[01:52] <LjL> dhuv, possibly
[01:52] <dhuv> Jucato:no, its to set the volume levels, alsaconf is different
[01:52] <Jucato> ah
[01:53] <dhuv> LjL: I will try that, thanks
[01:53] <LjL> josh__, yes, but then they're probably not even the same ones you're using
[01:53] <dhuv> by the way is there any reason alsaconf is not part of any pakcages?
[01:53] <josh__> LjL, I just want to make sure its not something wrong with my computer
[01:53] <josh__> i can access the internet just fine
[01:54] <LjL> josh__, what kind of errors are you getting? sometimes it's the router (the router's built-in DNS proxy, actually)
[01:54] <LjL> but i'd just try other mirrors first anyway
[01:54] <nagyv> wildchild: does it worked?
[01:54] <josh__> it's just hanging....   "Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (1.0.0.0), connection timed out
[01:54] <dhuv> josh__: did you try going to the url via a browser and see how fast the response is?
[01:54] <Acc\Deny> hello ppl. Any on who has experienced Error 24 with grub?
[01:55] <rahmetli> i cant boot into my kubuntu after update,and there were 3 couple of kernels and recovery modes in the grub screen.
[01:55] <Acc\Deny> error 24: attempt to access block outside partition
[01:55] <josh__> comes back real quick
[01:55] <josh__> from Kongueror
[01:55] <rahmetli> shout i reinstall kubuntu or recover?which one is easy?
[01:55] <Acc\Deny> one*
[01:55] <LjL> josh__, that's the DNS server
[01:55] <mia> anyone know how to set the default session in kdm?
[01:55] <LjL> josh__: the address of us.archive.ubuntu.com is definitely not 1.0.0.0 - i guess your router's of the broken kind
[01:55] <josh__> hmm....  Adept hangs too when I try to update from there as well
[01:56] <LjL> josh__, try editing /etc/resolv.conf and settings 212.245.255.2 as your main namserver
[01:56] <LjL> dhuv, some googling gave me some hints as to why it's not included, but i couldn't find anything official looking
[01:56] <glimmung> so I cant get kubuntu to start
[01:57] <wildchild> nagvy: can't find config file of firefox :S
[01:57] <josh__> hey... that nameserver changed fixed my problems
[01:58] <rahmetli> no answer?
[01:58] <josh__> thanks so much for the help!
[01:58] <rahmetli> i have downloaded ~700mb for update
[01:59] <rahmetli> now icant boot into kubuntu
[02:00] <rahmetli> when i select new kernels it stops with a black screen
[02:00] <Erich-K> I have the cedega.deb and it says I need xlibs when I try to install it. But there is nothing called xlibs in synaptic. Where can I get it?
[02:01] <Lunar_Raven> !opera
[02:01] <ubotu> opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser
[02:03] <rahmetli> i think i would not have problems after an upgrade in suse
[02:03] <nagyv> wildchild: write in the location bar about:config
[02:05] <Erich-K> I have the cedega.deb and it says I need xlibs when I try to install it. But there is nothing called xlibs in synaptic. Where can I get it?
[02:08] <Lunar_Raven> !cedega
[02:08] <ubotu> cedega is a project based on WINE, aimed at running Windows games on Linux. For more info, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/Cedega
[02:08] <Lunar_Raven> !xlibs
[02:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xlibs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:08] <Lunar_Raven> hmm
[02:09] <Jucato> !xlibs-dev | Erich-K
[02:09] <Schalken> does kubuntu have multimonitor support?
[02:09] <ubotu> xlibs-dev: X Window System client library development files transitional package. In component main, is extra. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 44 kB
[02:09] <wildchild> nagvy: it only find network.protocol-handler and not the whole line: network.protocol-handler.app.mms
[02:09] <glimmung> so what do I do if I cant get kubuntu to even start from live disk? I type startx at the commandline but nothing, and I dont have root password
[02:10] <Schalken> glimmung: its not starting X when you boot from the cd?
[02:10] <glimmung> correct
[02:11] <glimmung> it just kicks me to bash prompt
[02:11] <Schalken> glimmung: does it give any specific error?
[02:11] <glimmung> usual no server error on 0.0
[02:11] <rahmetLEE> i cant boot into my kubuntu after update,and there were 3 couple of kernels and recovery modes in the grub screen.
[02:11] <rahmetLEE> when i select new kernels it stops with a black screen
[02:12] <Schalken> glimmung: no server error...hmm, try 'check disk for defects' if you havent already
[02:12] <glimmung> did it already, disk was fine
[02:12] <Jucato> rahmetLEE: are you using the proprietary ATI or NVIDIA drivers?
[02:12] <Schalken> rahmetLEE: try all the kernels from top down.
[02:12] <markelhas> ppl how can i add print from kubuntu to a windows machine?
[02:13] <markelhas> plz help me out
[02:13] <rahmetLEE> Jucato nvidia
[02:13] <wildchild> nagvy: thx it's working
[02:14] <glimmung> markelhas usually you can go to kde control center, peripherals, printers, admin mode, and add 192.168.1.*
[02:14] <Jucato> rahmetLEE: you have to make sure that linux-restricted-modules-xxxx for your kernel is also installed or upgraded whenever a new kernel is installed/upgraded
[02:14] <markelhas> glimmung: i've done that and add to my laptop (kubuntu), but in windows machine can't find the printer
[02:15] <glimmung> i dont think it really needs to, but if it complains then that usually means that you dont have samba set up or your windows doesnt have the drivers
[02:15] <rahmetLEE> Jucato i am not an advanced user,now i need an advice,should i recover or install dapper?
[02:15] <glimmung> what kind of printer is it?
[02:16] <Firetech> hmm, just upgraded (upgrading) to edgy, and now I can't install kdelibs4-dev (and some other kde-dev packages). :( any solution? It might be because of KDE 3.5.5...
[02:16] <Jucato> rahmetLEE: why? you can still boot into the older kernels that you have right?
[02:16] <glimmung> markelhas, is cups running?
[02:16] <rahmetLEE> Jucato no cant boot into older kerns.
[02:16] <Jucato> Firetech: what do you mean by "you can't install"
[02:16] <markelhas> glimmung: yes, i think the problems is on the desktop that have the printer
[02:17] <rahmetLEE> everything was ok :( until the upgrade
[02:17] <Jucato> rahmetLEE: and this was after the kernel upgrade?  you're on Dapper, right?
[02:17] <Firetech> Jucato: unmet dependencies..
[02:17] <glimmung> 
[02:17] <markelhas> glimmung: because in my windows machine i can view the laptop shared folder, but not the desktop share folders
[02:17] <rahmetLEE> i was on dapper,i have upgraded and now i cant boot into any kernel.
[02:18] <glimmung> you wont be able to do any fuile sharing, this trick is for how to share a printer without samba
[02:18] <Jucato> rahmetLEE: you upgraded to Edgy?
[02:18] <markelhas> glimmung: in both cases ask for password, in the desktop can't login
[02:18] <markelhas> glimmung: where can i change that!?
[02:18] <rahmetLEE> Jucato yes i did it via adept updater
[02:18] <markelhas> glimmung: samba config?
[02:18] <glimmung> if you click allow under config it wont ask for password
[02:18] <Jucato> rahmetLEE: oh.. not good.
[02:19] <Jucato> the upgrade instructions for Kubuntu Edgy does not recommend using Adept
[02:19] <wezlo> hi folks, does anyone have any idea how to fix bluetooth pairing issues in edgy?
[02:19] <kilox> hi can anyone help with the blank screen problems please
[02:20] <markelhas> glimmung: i'm not following, sorry can u explain better!?
[02:20] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: That is a simple way to break the system in subtle ways (dist-upgrading with adept)
[02:20] <sascha_> Can anyone help me? I'm trying to get access to my windows ntfs partitions. As root isw orks, but i can't open the mounted folder as user. Of courseI changed rights to get access but the shell always tells me : Read-only rights!
[02:20] <glimmung> markelhas, http://www.pclinuxonline.com/wiki/WindowsPrinterSharingWithoutSamba that is a tutorial for pclinux, but it still works under kubuntu
[02:21] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: dist-upgrading to a new release is problematic. but not plain dist-upgrade. Adept (and Synaptic) uses dist-upgrade in their regular "upgrade" functions
[02:21] <markelhas> glimmung: going to check it
[02:21] <glimmung> cool
[02:21] <glimmung> the only thing you have to make sure about is that cups is set to start at boot, kde takes care of the rest
[02:22] <rahmetLEE> i was happy with my os. :(
[02:22] <kilox> hi can anyone help with the blank screen problems please
[02:23] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: If you are on a stable release - dist-upgrade should never be necessary
[02:23] <wezlo> kilox, what blank screen problems?
[02:23] <jorge_> channel espaol?
[02:23] <Jucato> !es | jorge_
[02:23] <ubotu> jorge_: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[02:23] <Jasey> i like the mac os-style toolbar at the top of my kde session. its nifty to add the clock and various things to it as well. is there any simple way to just widen it a bit to make icons fit inside it better? cheers in advance :)
[02:23] <jorge_> graficas
[02:23] <eric> what does stable relese mean?that most the bugs are out?
[02:23] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: dunno. I'm just telling it as it is
[02:24] <rahmetLEE> if i install a new sys of dapper and upgrade,will i again face with that prob?
[02:24] <Jucato> Jasey: doesn't it already occupy the whole horizontal space at the top?
[02:24] <Jucato> !upgrade | rahmetLEE
[02:24] <ubotu> rahmetLEE: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[02:24] <eric> whats the file name for the mac tool bar?any other cool things like it?
[02:24] <Jasey> Jucato,  i dont mind horizontally, i mean vertically
[02:24] <Jucato> rahmetLEE: just follow those instructions
[02:24] <Jucato> Jasey: ah make it occupy 2 rows?
[02:25] <sascha_> Can anyone help me? I'm trying to get access to my windows ntfs partitions. As root isw orks, but i can't open the mounted folder as user. Of courseI changed rights to get access but the shell always tells me : Read-only rights!
[02:25] <Jasey> im not quite sure 2 rows is what i want.
[02:25] <eric> im havuing the same problem with a fat16 part
[02:25] <glimmung> sascha_, unless you have samba configured, mounting is about all you can do
[02:25] <mnoir> jasey - rt click/configure panel/size
[02:25] <Jasey> i just want it to be slightly wider vertically. icons appear to be cut off 2/3 of the way because they dont fit properly vertically.
[02:25] <Firetech> hmm, apt-get lists "xorg" among the packages not used,isn't it quite a bad idea to remove that?
[02:25] <Jasey> its not that kind of panel
[02:26] <eric> whats the name for the mac toolbar?
[02:26] <rahmetLEE> what do you think about upgrading issues in kubuntu?is it easy in practice
[02:26] <h3sp4wn> Firetech: Look what is in it
[02:26] <Jucato> Firetech: it might be a metapackage
[02:26] <h3sp4wn> Firetech: Its a completely empty package
[02:26] <Firetech> h3sp4wn: it's a metapackage, but I haven't seen it until now in edgy...
[02:26] <Jucato> rahmetLEE: Dapper to Edgy was quite problematic for some. although some have had some successs
[02:26] <Jasey> its just a setting in Desktop > Behaviour in kcontrol as i know it
[02:26] <wezlo> rahmetLEE you might want to hold off a bit on the upgrade
[02:26] <sascha_> ??
[02:27] <Jucato> eric: it's not a separate app. RIght-click on the desktop -> Configure Desktop -> Behavior
[02:27] <Jucato> eric: you should see the options there
[02:27] <Jasey> yes
[02:27] <sascha_> so i need samba for accessing ntfs partitions with non-root users
[02:27] <Jasey> in Menu Bar at Top Of Screen
[02:28] <Jasey> now, initially that menu bar was the correct size for everything. then i restarted my X session and now its a lot thinner that it was.
[02:29] <Jucato> Firetech: if it's a metapackage installed by default, it's best not to remove it, to make updating easier/less problematic
[02:29] <erict> um silly question but how can i tell if im running kubuntu or ubuntu?i installed ubuntu then let someone else play with my machine for a while now when it starts up it says ubuntu but the login screen says kubuntu?
[02:29] <Firetech> Jucato: that's what I meant...
[02:29] <rahmetLEE> i dont want to install suse,i love kubuntu
[02:29] <rahmetLEE> :(
[02:30] <Jasey> the login screen is unimportant erict
[02:30] <Jasey> erict: it all depends on whether you have ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop packages installed
[02:30] <erict> ill check the repos
[02:30] <Jasey> yeah synaptic will be able to tell ya if youve got it :)
[02:30] <Jasey> or adept
[02:30] <Jasey> lol
[02:31] <rahmetLEE> what if i dont upgrade to edgy?
[02:31] <Jucato> rahmetLEE: no problem there
[02:31] <Jucato> just keep your Dapper updated
[02:32] <rahmetLEE> any security issues?
[02:32] <Jasey> and have a look at backports too
[02:32] <Jucato> rahmetLEE: no. Dapper is LTS, meaning it's to be supported with security updates for 3-5 years
[02:32] <erict> is it just the kubuntu package i should install,or are theier others?
[02:32] <Jasey> you dont need to install any
[02:33] <Jasey> you just need to check which ones ARE installed
[02:33] <Jasey> use the search feature to look for ubuntu-desktop or kubuntu-desktop and see what you have installed right now
[02:33] <erict> yeah but im trying to swicth over to kubuntu
[02:33] <Sudo|Faderhval> uhhm how do i mount a device in kubuntu?
[02:34] <rahmetLEE> i had problem with internal speaker on my laptop with that kernel,someone told me it will be fixed with update,i will download new edgy and install :(
[02:34] <erict> gpart?or is that just ubuntu
[02:35] <Jasey> oh
[02:35] <Jucato> erict: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[02:35] <Jasey> well erict, install kubuntu-desktop
[02:36] <edulix> hi
[02:36] <edulix> I've installed suspend2
[02:36] <edulix> and I want to configure powermanager to use it
[02:36] <edulix> also, I want kde to use it
[02:36] <edulix> hibernate works fine
[02:37] <Jasey> did you get the suspend2-userui package?
[02:37] <Firetech> edulix: I used it in KDE with powersaved in dapper.
[02:37] <edulix> but it doesn't invoke the correct suspend (suspend2, with command hibernate-ram)
[02:37] <Firetech> kpowersave
[02:37] <edulix> JAsey uhm let me see
[02:37] <edulix> Firetech: I like/prefer power manager :P
[02:38] <Jasey> err oh another problem im having is kxdocker complains all of its config files are corrupt :| whats up with that ??
[02:39] <edulix> Jasey: installing it
[02:39] <Jasey> ok
[02:39] <LjL> Jasey: that it's broken
[02:39] <LjL> edulix, don't bother, it's a known bug
[02:39] <Jasey> oh, yeah i see on the forums a lot of ppl having that problem with kxdocker in edgy =\
[02:40] <LjL> https://launchpad.net/bugs/55782
[02:40] <Jasey> hmm
[02:41] <edulix> LjL: ok but it's a bug in kde, in suspend2, or in power manager?
[02:41] <Firetech> wish me luck! Gonna reboot after an upgrade to edgy
[02:41] <edulix> I can download the source of powermanager and modify the command to execute
[02:42] <LjL> edulix: ...uh? i was talking about kxdocker =)
[02:42] <edulix> ahps
[02:43] <Jasey> yeah someone on the forums said to try the debian testing version
[02:47] <erict> is it possible to have both kubuntu and ubuntu desktops installed and be able to swicth back and forth at the login?
[02:48] <Jasey> yes
[02:48] <Jasey> any time you log out, find the Options button and pick a new session
[02:52] <stodge> Hi folks - I need to copy a mini-DVD from my video camera, Any recommandations for a KDE program to do this?
[03:04] <frenris> How does one copy a file as root? I want to copy something into /usr/share but the GUI won't let me. I tried using the CLI command sudo cp /home/frenris/Desktop/Wag'sdungeon.mod /usr/share/games/egoboo/modules but that wouldn't work.
[03:05] <drarem> frenris:  sudo cp
[03:05] <drarem> sudo cp /home/....
[03:05] <drarem> it will prompt for password
[03:05] <frenris> I tried
[03:05] <Jucato> frenris: it's probably not working because of the ' in Wag'sdungeon. try pressing Tab when after you type the "Wag" part so that it will autocomplete with the proper spelling
[03:07] <Jucato> frenris: something like "sudo cp /home/frenris/Desktop/Wag[Tab]  /usr/share/games/egoboo/modules"
[03:14] <frenris> alright I tried but it then gave me "cp: omitting directory '/home/frenris/Desktop/Wag\'sdungeon.mod/'"
[03:14] <Jucato> lol! hi Mez! (just greeting. don't want to play :P)
[03:14] <h3sp4wn> has anyone hooked in user-mode-linux into the schroot startup scripts
[03:14] <h3sp4wn> ?
[03:15] <Jucato> frenris: is Wag'sdungeon a directory?
[03:16] <frenris> a file
[03:17] <Jucato> frenris: the "/" at the end says otherwise
[03:17] <frenris> ya nvm it is a directory
[03:17] <Jucato> :P
[03:18] <Jucato> frenris: it would be easier if you just went into that diretory, and "sudo cp * /usr/wherever"
[03:20] <lucky_> uh huh
[03:20] <eric> how do i create a script like this?
[03:21] <lucky_> I know how he knows my name now...\
[03:21] <eric> you can also create a small cleaner.sh script witht he following and run it as root)
[03:21] <eric> $ sudo -s -H
[03:21] <eric> #cd /usr/share/applications
[03:21] <eric> #for i in *.desktop; do \
[03:21] <eric> # if ! grep -q ^OnlyShowIn= $i; then \
[03:21] <eric> # echo OnlyShowIn=GNOME; >> $i \
[03:21] <eric> # fi
[03:22] <lucky_> ya..
[03:22] <eric> what program and how do i run it?
[03:22] <Jucato> !pastebin | eric
[03:22] <ubotu> eric: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:23] <lucky_> so anywayz why was I blocked from #kubuntu-offtopic? Was it because I was cautious about who knew my information
[03:23] <frenris> I tried what you suggested and then it gave me "
[03:23] <frenris> cp: omitting directory `gamedat'
[03:23] <frenris> cp: omitting directory `objects'
[03:24] <frenris> and then didn't work
[03:24] <Jucato> frenris: ok this will probably be easier for you. Press Alt+F2, and type in "kdesu konqueror" that will launch Konqueror as root and you can just copy-paste into /usr. BE VERY VERY CAREFUL
[03:24] <Jucato> frenris: and don't forget to close the window after you're done
[03:25] <Jucato> lucky_: no one knows information that you haven't put up yourself
[03:25] <eric>  how do i create a script like this?
[03:25] <eric>  $ sudo -s -H
[03:25] <eric>  #cd /usr/share/applications
[03:25] <eric>  #for i in *.desktop; do \
[03:25] <eric>  # if ! grep -q ^OnlyShowIn= $i; then \
[03:25] <eric>  # echo OnlyShowIn=GNOME; >> $i \
[03:25] <eric>  # fi
[03:25] <Jucato> !pastebin | eric
[03:25] <ubotu> eric: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[03:25] <eric> what prgram would i use and how would i run it as root?
[03:26] <Jucato> eric: you can ask in #bash
[03:26] <lucky_> well I just found out how he got my info but really he could have kept quiet and why did he have to tell the whole world
[03:27] <Jucato> lucky_: if you're so particular about it, follow this simple principle: Don't put up anything online that you don't want to be known.
[03:27] <Jucato> lucky_: he didn't need to "tell the whole world". You do that yourself
[03:28] <lucky_> I didnt know that it could be seen I am new to this whole thing so how was I supposed to know what people could see or not
[03:28] <Jucato> lucky_: you could have asked nicely. which is why you were banned from that channel. you were hysterical and disturbing others
[03:29] <lucky_> well I had a good reason too
[03:29] <Jucato> you were also trolling
[03:29] <lucvon> hallo
[03:29] <frenris> Jucato: thanks a lot, it seems to have worked.
[03:29] <lucky_> whats that?
[03:29] <Jucato> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
[03:30] <case1> anybody in here know anything about setting up a VNC proxy?
[03:30] <lucky_> and how was I trolling again?
[03:30] <lucvon> somebody help me about kdevelop?
[03:31] <eric> whats my irc window mean when it says no colers allowed?
[03:32] <eric> somebody gave me a link earlyer about how to install kubuntu anyone know what it was?
[03:32] <Jucato> eric: it means that the channel doesn't allow the use of colors
[03:32] <irvingmexico> somebody speak spanish?
[03:32] <eric> like colered fonts?wierd
[03:32] <Jucato> !es | irvingmexico
[03:32] <ubotu> irvingmexico: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[03:32] <hollywoodb> !es | irvingmexico
[03:32] <Jucato> eric: colored fonts *in* the channel.
[03:32] <irvingmexico> thanks!
[03:33] <Jucato> eric:  but you can still have colored fonts that only you can see
[03:33] <Jucato> eric: this one? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[03:33] <eric> cool
[03:34] <eric> yup
[03:41] <frenris> Does anyone know any video editing software for linux? E.G. if I wanted to tac an audio file on to a .mov how would I go about doing it?
[03:44] <Linux_Galore> identify chatmad33
[03:44] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: ooops? :P
[03:44] <Jucato> frenris: kino?
[03:44] <hollywoodb> Linux_Galore: put a: /msg nickserv in front of that
[03:44] <Jucato> Linux_Galore: better yet, let your IRC client handle it
[03:45] <nalioth> Linux_Galore: and change your password quickly  :)
[03:45] <Jucato> or if you really must type, never type it in a channel window :)
[03:45] <Jucato> hi nalioth!
[03:45] <nalioth> Linux_Galore: /msg nickserv set password ANOTHER_PASSWORD
[03:45] <Jucato> hurry hurry!! :)
[03:45] <nalioth> hi Jucato i was feeling lucky and just looked in
[03:46] <Jucato> hehehe
[03:49] <rhodri> hi, is there a way to just install specific parts of a package?  my problem is i need to install the restricted-modules package to make my wifi card work, but when i do it stops my ati driver from working for some reason.  so could i just install the wifi driver from this package somehow?  thanks
[03:53] <nekomata> does anyone know how to enable https for Firefox in Edgy?
[03:53] <rhodri> enable?  doesn't it just...  work?
[03:53] <nekomata> nope
[03:54] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[03:54] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:54] <rhodri> what doesn't work?  you can't access https websites?
[03:54] <nekomata> http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=10585.0
[03:54] <nekomata> same problem as that guy
[03:54] <rag_> hi *
[03:54] <rag_> how time for recompile kernel on core duo? about...
[03:54] <frenris> Jucato: seems good but lacks .mov support. Guess I'll have to do it on windoze.
[03:55] <eric> just installed kubuntu!love it already
[03:55] <nekomata> Firefox doesn't seem to be understanding the https protocol
[03:55] <Jucato> frenris: there might be others. I only know of Kino
[03:56] <hollywoodb> frenris: Cinelerra?
[03:59] <eric> what kind of information dofes  a network packet contain?is it whatever info is being sent over the network?like if i sent a text doc and some
[03:59] <eric> someone packet sniffed tpackets would they be able see my doc?
[04:01] <markelhas> ppl
[04:01] <markelhas> help me out config ktorrent
[04:01] <markelhas> can't ddl faster ther 0.1
[04:01] <markelhas> *then
[04:02] <hollywoodb> !enter | markelhas
[04:02] <ubotu> markelhas: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[04:02] <unix_infidel> eric: define be able to see your doc.
[04:02] <markelhas> hollywoodb: okidoki
[04:02] <unix_infidel> what's a doc?
[04:02] <markelhas> hollywoodb: can u help me out config ktorrent?
[04:03] <markelhas> hollywoodb: i've allredy made port frwd, but can't get better then 0.1 kb :(
[04:04] <Splitz> Hey is there anyone here who can help me out?
[04:04] <Splitz> Hey is there anyone here who can help me out?
[04:04] <unix_infidel> !ask | Splitz
[04:04] <markelhas> Splitz: in what!?
[04:04] <ubotu> Splitz: Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[04:04] <Splitz> ok
[04:05] <Splitz> Ive decied on kubuntu for my first linux installation
[04:05] <Splitz> I just need a little help installing it
[04:05] <Schalken> anyone know why i simple cant install a certain .deb? this is what happens: http://rafb.net/paste/results/q2qq0597.html
[04:06] <Jucato> Schalken: you don't install a .deb with apt-get
[04:07] <Jucato> Schalken: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[04:07] <Schalken> Jucato: ...
[04:07] <Schalken> Jucato: hey yeah!
[04:07] <eric> im just curius as to do with  packet after ive sniffed them from my network
[04:07] <markelhas> any one can help with ktorrent!?
[04:07] <Schalken> Jucato: thanks!
[04:07] <eric> and waht a packet sniffer does exactly
[04:07] <rhodri> markelhas: what's the problem?
[04:07] <Jucato> Schalken: btw, ubotu is triggered by !, apt (the kde bot) is triggered by ~
[04:07] <Kiongku> !amsn
[04:07] <ubotu> amsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB
[04:07] <Jucato> just make sure you're in the right channel :)
[04:07] <markelhas> rhodri: can't get faster them 0.1 kb
[04:08] <Splitz> Ok, I just want to know how to partion my HDD for this dual boot
[04:08] <Schalken> Jucato: so he is :)
[04:08] <markelhas> rhodri: seem some firewall protection or something...
[04:08] <rhodri> yeah, sounds like ur router isn't set up properly
[04:08] <markelhas> rhodri: i've made the por forwd
[04:09] <rhodri> hmm...  and the torrent is a good one?
[04:09] <markelhas> rhodri: i've done it so many times....
[04:09] <eric> whats the kubuntu version of wine,does it have one?
[04:09] <Splitz> So can anyone help me with the disk partitioning?
[04:09] <rhodri> eric:  wine --version ?
[04:09] <markelhas> rhodri: i think so
[04:09] <eric> use gpart
[04:09] <markelhas> rhodri: it's from lost season 2 dvd1
[04:10] <eric> does kubuntu have its program for running windows apps?
[04:10] <Jucato> !wine | eric
[04:10] <ubotu> eric: wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[04:10] <markelhas> rhodri: i've many peer but 0.0 kb/s :(
[04:10] <rhodri> ok, that's prob pretty popular.  i had the same problem with my setup...  have u tried any other torrent clients?
[04:10] <markelhas> rhodri: yap azureus, same thing
[04:11] <rhodri> ok...
[04:11] <markelhas> the torrent client i've used in winxp was utorrent it works very nice, but not for linux :8
[04:11] <rhodri> u can use this to make sure ur setup is ok: http://btfaq.com/natcheck.pl
[04:12] <markelhas> rhodri: how can i get the has of the torrent?
[04:14] <rhodri> umm... i don't know how with ktorrent... u still have azureus installed?  i think that will tell u pretty easily
[04:14] <markelhas> rhodri: removed it
[04:17] <markelhas> rhodri: can't understand why the port fordw isn't working
[04:17] <rhodri> ok, well install the bittorrent package: sudo dpkg --install bittorrent, then use btshowmetainfo
[04:17] <markelhas> rhodri: "Successfully connected, but didn't get proper a BitTorrent client response. Make sure you entered a correct hash ID that corresponds to the active torrent on your system. Most likely, your network is properly configured, but repeat this test with a valid hash ID to be sure. "
[04:18] <rhodri> hmm. ok...
[04:18] <rhodri> well, maybe if i tell u my problem and it might help?
[04:19] <markelhas> rhodri: should i install bittorrent?
[04:19] <rhodri> na don't bother
[04:20] <markelhas> rhodri: oki
[04:20] <markelhas> rhodri: any ideia!?
[04:20] <rhodri> i can't access the admin on my router and was having the same problem as you.  so i guessed that maybe the router would let through port 80, so i ran ktorrent as root to connect to port 80 and then everything was sweet, so that's what i do.
[04:20] <rhodri> but maybe that wasn't the problem, if ur having the same thing
[04:21] <rhodri> try running ktorrent as root and connect to 80 maybe?  just for a test?
[04:22] <markelhas> rhodri: how can i run it as root?
[04:22] <rhodri> open a terminal and type: sudo ktorrent, that should do it
[04:23] <markelhas> got error
[04:23] <rhodri> ?
[04:24] <markelhas> rhodri: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[04:24] <rhodri> eekk...  *no idea*...  what about if u just run ktorrent from cmdline?
[04:25] <Linux_Galore> ?? you dont need to use sudo to run ktorrent
[04:25] <markelhas> rhodri: nothing appens!!!!
[04:25] <rhodri> nothing?  is ktorrent already running?
[04:25] <markelhas> Linux_Galore: i cant connect faster than 0.1 kbs
[04:25] <Kiongku> whats the command to view system processes in konsole?
[04:26] <Linux_Galore> markelhas: check you firewall rules
[04:26] <markelhas> rhodri: nop
[04:26] <markelhas> Linux_Galore: i've do taht
[04:26] <Linux_Galore> markelhas: I suspect you have some closed ports
[04:26] <markelhas> Linux_Galore: i've set firewall settings many times
[04:26] <rhodri> and you're sure *nothing* happens, there is no ktorrent in ur systray?
[04:27] <Linux_Galore> markelhas: turn the firewall off and see what happens, also make sure you set your "down" speed to unlimited"
[04:27] <markelhas> Linux_Galore: turn off firewall, i've a router
[04:28] <Linux_Galore> markelhas: turn the firewall of on the machine were the client resides
[04:29] <Linux_Galore> markelhas: also make sure upnp is enabled on the router and and port 6881 is forwarded to you main machine
[04:31] <Linux_Galore> s/and//
[04:34] <klerfayt> next ubuntu release is going to have kde 3.5...?
[04:34] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: 3.5.6
[04:35] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: 3.5.5 is stable
[04:35] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: there won't be kde 3.6, ever?
[04:36] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: doubt it kde 4 beta is due out in a few weeks
[04:36] <vieira> hey
[04:36] <vieira> so any ideias about the ktorrent client!?
[04:36] <vieira> Linux_Galore: !?
[04:36] <Linux_Galore> vieira: about what
[04:37] <vieira> Linux_Galore: i can't the faster then 0.1 kb
[04:37] <Linux_Galore> vieira: then you have a network issue its that simple
[04:38] <vieira> Linux_Galore: u said to turn off firewall, dos kubutu have one?
[04:38] <Linux_Galore> vieira: no not by default
[04:38] <Linux_Galore> vieira: because it doesnt have any services turned on
[04:38] <vieira> Linux_Galore: oki i know that there is a issue, but do u have a ideia how can i solve it?
[04:39] <Linux_Galore> vieira: did you set port forwarding ofr port 6881 on the router to the machine running ktorrent
[04:39] <Linux_Galore> for*
[04:39] <Linux_Galore> vieira: and turn on upnp
[04:39] <vieira> it's a kubuntu problem maybe, cause i didn't have this one in windows...
[04:39] <vieira> Linux_Galore: yes i did
[04:40] <Linux_Galore> vieira: no I suspect the windows client has changed the firewall settings
[04:40] <vieira> windows !?! client?
[04:40] <Linux_Galore> vieira: I use azureus in Linux I found korrent a bit slow
[04:41] <vieira> Linux_Galore: i've also installed azureus samething
[04:41] <vieira> :(
[04:41] <Linux_Galore> vieira: sudo apt-get install azureus
[04:41] <ducky> openoffice loads _very_ slowly in kubuntu, but is fast in reg ubuntu
[04:41] <Linux_Galore> vieira: Ive got azureus now and torrenting @ 420kb/s
[04:41] <ducky> does anyone know why this is?
[04:41] <Th3_Cr0up13R> heloo there
[04:42] <Th3_Cr0up13R> how is things
[04:42] <vieira> Linux_Galore: oki i'll install again
[04:42] <Linux_Galore> ducky: install koffice
[04:42] <vieira> Linux_Galore: its ports sould i forwd to azureus!?
[04:43] <Th3_Cr0up13R> when you mount the dvd in ubuntu you go "mount /dev/hdd " or mount /mnt/cdrom
[04:43] <Linux_Galore> ducky: or install oooqs  to speed openoffice up
[04:43] <ducky> Linux_Galore: is it completely cross-compatible with open-office?
[04:43] <Linux_Galore> duck yes
[04:43] <Linux_Galore> ducky both use the ODF file formats
[04:43] <Th3_Cr0up13R> because my dvd does not recognise the movie dvds and i got the libdvd installed
[04:43] <ducky> Linux_Galore: My sister is using it for her wedding planning and letters and so it needs to be predictable
[04:44] <vieira> Linux_Galore: i've made the test 42955 port and stauts ok
[04:44] <Linux_Galore> vieira: port 6881 is the default
[04:44] <Linux_Galore> vieira: if you set it to anything else it wont work
[04:44] <vieira> but in the wizard tested in that one
[04:44] <ducky> kubuntu in general seems quite a bit slower than gnome
[04:45] <vieira> Linux_Galore: ok should i change it?
[04:45] <Linux_Galore> vieira: then ignore me and I will happily tell you this again in 4 minutes
[04:45] <Linux_Galore> ducky: faster for me
[04:45] <vieira> Linux_Galore: :(
[04:46] <Linux_Galore> ducky: pretty strange consiering that Ubuntu uses more ram than kubuntu
[04:46] <vieira> Linux_Galore:
[04:46] <vieira> esting port 6881 ... Unable to test: Invalid port given, or test service failed.
[04:46] <vieira> Another application may already be using this port.
[04:46] <Linux_Galore> considering*
[04:46] <Linux_Galore> vieira: tells me you didnt set port forwarding on your router for 6881
[04:46] <ducky> Linux_Galore:yes indeed
[04:47] <Linux_Galore> ducky machines dont lie
[04:47] <Linux_Galore> if you did it would work
[04:47] <vieira> Linux_Galore: yes i did
[04:48] <Linux_Galore> vieira: then explain why both ktorrent and azureus cant torrent on the default port 6881
[04:48] <Linux_Galore> on your setup
[04:48] <tony__> hello, im trying to install a php script on my server. i get this error, .:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear    what this means ?
[04:49] <Linux_Galore> vieira: and you have no firewall running on the PC so the only thing left is the router
[04:49] <vieira> Linux_Galore: the ktorrent was open , i kill it on shell
[04:50] <vieira> Linux_Galore: going to run az
[04:50] <stefan_> may anyone help me with a linux problem
[04:51] <tony__> hello, im trying to install a php script on my server. i get this error, .:/usr/share/php:/usr/share/pear    what this means ?
[04:52] <stefan_> trying to call a php function get_file_contents and it echoes permission denied, anyway the file to le read is 777
[04:52] <stefan_> any explanation ?
[04:52] <vieira> Linux_Galore: 0,0 B/s :(
[04:52] <tony__> i set the files to 777 .. but still get the error ..
[04:53] <vieira> Linux_Galore: going to get other torrent
[04:53] <tony__> i will try again
[04:53] <vieira> Linux_Galore: do u have one working torrent?
[05:06] <willy> alguien me ayuda
[05:06] <willy> quiero instalar los super tux
[05:07] <estigma> alguien me puede ayudar
[05:07] <Jucato> !es
[05:07] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:07] <estigma> necesito instalar super tux
[05:18] <Schalken> is there a way to have adept (run as root) use your kde appearance configuration?
[05:19] <Jucato> Schalken: run system settings as root and change the appearance to match your users theme/appearance
[05:19] <Schalken> Jucato: cant i just make it refer to my settings somehow instead?
[05:20] <Schalken> symlinks? :P
[05:20] <Jucato> um... probably, but your symlinks would be useless if you suddenly change themes/settings
[05:21] <Schalken> Jucato: why, wouldnt they still point to my settings, changed or not?
[05:21] <Jucato> hm... not really sure
[05:29] <josh__> !xgl
[05:29] <ubotu> Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL)  -  Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager  -  Help in #ubuntu-xgl  -  See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems
[05:33] <klerfayt> what's wrong with konsole transparency schemes?
[05:35] <equilibrium> klerfayt: can you be more specific?
[05:41] <klerfayt> equilibrium: konsole comes with a few trasparent colorschemes, but they don't work
[05:43] <jon_> is anyone familiar with kopete?
[05:44] <dragonfly7> jon: I know of it, and have used it. Why?
[05:46] <jon_> im trying to view a webcam, but i cant get it to work
[05:47] <dragonfly7> Yeah, I doubt I can help you. Sorry.
[05:47] <jon_> thats okay
[05:50] <equilibrium> ok I have an odd one, all the little default system sounds work but I get no sound with okle
[05:50] <equilibrium> anyone have an idea why one set of sounds should work but not the dvd audio?
[05:57] <dude_> abattoir !
[05:57] <dude_> jucato !
[05:57] <Jucato> dude_: sssshhh he's busy :P
[05:57] <dude_> hi guys
[05:57] <smaggard> hallo
[05:57] <dude_> ohh
[05:58] <dude_> sorry
[06:01] <abattoir> hello dude_
[06:05] <bsnider> anybody here using a hauppauge remote?
[06:10] <cpk1> alright guys i think i might have i serious problem, my ethernet on my desktop died when i brought to a lan just now
[06:22] <HyperNexus> Can anyone suggest a program for me to use to record video and sound from my webcam
[06:24] <Nuked> hmmm
[06:24] <Nuked> ill take a look and see what I can come up with
[06:25] <HyperNexus> Thank you.
[06:32] <Nuked> HyperNexus: http://www.smcc.demon.nl/camstream/
[06:33] <Nuked> but ill keep looking
[06:33] <HyperNexus> okay thank you
[06:35] <Nuked> gqcam - GTK Webcam control
[06:35] <Nuked> and camstream is in the repos
[06:35] <Nuked> along with gqcam
[06:35] <HyperNexus> thank you very much for your help
[06:36] <Nuked> I hope that it was useful
[06:36] <Nuked> that went well..
[06:38] <cpk1> lol
[06:38] <Nuked> :)
[06:47] <espanto> poop
[06:48] <Nuked> Enjoy it!
[06:48] <espanto> I intend to
[06:48] <Nuked> ah! well then!
[06:49] <espanto> hey do you think u can help me out?
[06:49] <Nuked> I can always try.. no guarantees though
[06:49] <espanto> great.. well i wanna know...
[06:49] <espanto> EVERYTHING
[06:49] <Nuked> ah! thats easy
[06:49] <Nuked> the answer is...
[06:49] <Nuked> 42
[06:50] <espanto> really?
[06:50] <Nuked> yes
[06:50] <espanto> i would have never guessed
[06:50] <Nuked> but if you are desperate, its 6
[06:50] <espanto> tru tru
[06:51] <espanto> really tho, can u teach me this linux stuff?
[06:51] <espanto> like how do i install suff?
[06:51] <Nuked> is there a specific area which you want to learn... i.e. networking, programming, downloading the best porn...
[06:51] <Nuked> espanto thats simple enough dude
[06:52] <Nuked> what are you using? dapper, edgy ...
[06:52] <espanto> edgy
[06:52] <Nuked> ah no problems
[06:52] <Nuked> have you enabled all the repos?
[06:52] <Nuked> !repos
[06:52] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:52] <tuko> i have a question ...
[06:52] <espanto> brb
[06:53] <Nuked> espanto ill be here
[06:53] <tuko> a awfull problem
[06:53] <tuko> awful
[06:53] <Nuked> tuko shoot... let me guess.....
[06:53] <Nuked> dialup?
[06:53] <tuko> ok
[06:53] <tuko> i hava dapper amd64
[06:53] <tuko> im triying to set up my dial up modem
[06:53] <tuko> i found, this slmodemd driver..
[06:54] <tuko> here came the problem
[06:54] <tuko> when i run scanmodem ..
[06:54] <tuko> it tell me to do
[06:54] <tuko> slmodem -alsa modem:1
[06:55] <tuko> but it doesnt work
[06:55] <tuko> sorry about my english
[06:55] <tuko> it works with hw:0
[06:55] <tuko> but this is confusing...
[06:55] <Nuked> well, have you tried sudo before the command?
[06:56] <tuko> jejeje of course
[06:56] <tuko> when i run wvdialconf it detects the modem
[06:56] <tuko> tects is rigth said?
[06:56] <Nuked> !es
[06:56] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:57] <Nuked> but I dont know why it doesnt detect the modem
[06:57] <tuko> jeje thanku
[06:57] <tuko> thank you
[06:57] <Nuked> ill try google
[06:57] <tuko> i tryed it before :(
[06:58] <tuko> but
[06:58] <tuko> with hw:0 it detect the modem
[06:58] <tuko> the problem is when i run wvdial..
[06:58] <tuko> then cames the no carrier error
[06:59] <Nuked> tuko I may have found something
[06:59] <tuko> show me
[06:59] <tuko> :D
[07:00] <Nuked> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_slmodem
[07:00] <Nuked> see what you can make of thaty
[07:00] <Nuked> even though its for gentoo
[07:00] <tuko> ok
[07:01] <tuko> snd-intel8x0m jeje thats mine
[07:01] <Nuked> I hope it at least points you in the right direction
[07:04] <tuko> ummm
[07:05] <tuko> there is something new!
[07:06] <tuko> Nuked: look
[07:06] <tuko> cd /usr/src/linux
[07:06] <tuko> it means i need the sources?
[07:07] <tuko> I only have the headers...
[07:07] <Nuked> try it
[07:09] <espanto> ok Nuked, im back, teach time...
[07:09] <tuko> oh :(
[07:10] <Nuked> espanto no problemo
[07:10] <Nuked> do me a favor
[07:10] <Nuked> show me your sources.list
[07:10] <espanto> yep
[07:10] <Jucato> !pastebin | espanto
[07:10] <ubotu> espanto: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[07:11] <Nuked> jucato I was getting there :)
[07:11] <Jucato> I was faster :P
[07:11] <Nuked> lol
[07:12] <espanto> ok.. the sources.list is were? and what is it? (like i said, im omega newb and I wanna learn)
[07:12] <Nuked> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:13] <Nuked> copy and paste everything at the pastebin address
[07:13] <Jucato> Nuked: unless he's in Ubuntu, that should be kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:13] <Nuked> thanks again
[07:13] <espanto> (K)ubuntu is what i have
[07:13] <espanto> is that the same?
[07:14] <Nuked> not exactly
[07:14] <Jucato> espanto: if you're using Kubuntu, do "kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list"
[07:14] <Nuked> so kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:14] <espanto> ok
[07:15] <espanto> ok it asked for my pw, i put it in and now i have teh sources window
[07:15] <espanto> now wat?
[07:15] <Nuked> copy and paste
[07:15] <Nuked> into pastebing
[07:15] <Nuked> bin*
[07:15] <espanto> okey dokey
[07:16] <Nuked> after you paste it, and send it show me the link
[07:16] <espanto> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30939/
[07:16] <espanto> is that right
[07:16] <espanto> ?
[07:18] <Nuked> espanto whats that wine one?
[07:18] <Nuked> im unfamiliar with that repo
[07:19] <espanto> teh wine is for runnig windows stuff
[07:19] <espanto> the .exe
[07:19] <Nuked> lol
[07:19] <JJasonJ21> 'Scuse the interruption, but is Scribus primarily a KDE app? 'Cause I'm having problems on Dapper / Gnome.
[07:19] <nrdb> I am using ubuntu I am trying to compile a kde app, ./configure is saying "checking for KDE... configure: error:" as far as I can tell it is looking for the directory that contains the kde header files. which package are these in?
[07:20] <Nuked> espanto edit it out so that it looks like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30940/
[07:20] <jon_> my cd drive randomly ejects cds
[07:20] <Nuked> nrdb try --prefix=$KDEDIR
[07:20] <jon_> is it a hardware or software issue?
[07:20] <jon_> i tried plugging in a different one, but apparently its not plug and play
[07:21] <Nuked> jon_:  thats weird as hell and I dont even know where to start answering
[07:21] <jon_> do i have to set it up?
[07:21] <nrdb> Nuked: ok but which package has the kde includes I don't have a KDEDIR
[07:21] <jon_> hm
[07:21] <Nuked> kdedir is just linking it to wherever kde is
[07:22] <nrdb> Nuked: I know but where do I get it from ?
[07:22] <dhq> in forums how are the passwords stored
[07:22] <jon_> well if i swap cd drives, do i have to change anything in the bios or something?
[07:22] <espanto> edit the text?.. or wat?
[07:22] <espanto> Nuked
[07:22] <Nuked> edit the text espanto
[07:22] <espanto> i knew that
[07:22] <Nuked> basically remove the # from the areas that I showed you
[07:23] <Nuked> then type in konsole sudo apt-get update
[07:23] <espanto> yeah..i knew that... :)
[07:23] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. ive seen where a cd rom/dvd can be set to auto-eject the disk when the disk is unmounted.
[07:23] <jon_> it just ejects when i use it
[07:23] <jon_> after oh say....45 seconds
[07:23] <jon_> without fail
[07:23] <Nuked> nrdb
[07:23] <jon_> in the middle of looking for something
[07:23] <nrdb> Nuked: yes
[07:24] <Nuked> nrdb /usr/include/kde
[07:24] <jon_> how can i install the new one tho?
[07:24] <jon_> do i have to unmount the old one and mount a new one or what?
[07:24] <Dr_willis> jon_,  unplug the old.. double check jumpers on new.. plug it in..
[07:24] <Dr_willis> jon_,  thers nothing complex to it.
[07:24] <Dr_willis> You need to power OFF the machine and change the cdrom drives.
[07:24] <Dr_willis> :P
[07:25] <jon_> thats what i figured but it didnt recognize the new one
[07:25] <Dr_willis> unplug it from the wall also...
[07:25] <jon_> of course i restarted it
[07:25] <nrdb> Nuked: but which package has the /usr/include/kde files in it I have no /usr/include/kde directory
[07:25] <Dr_willis> I would guess ya dident get a cable in right.. or jumpers are wrong.
[07:25] <jon_> hmm ill check the jumpers
[07:25] <espanto> ok Nuked... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30941/ there it is
[07:25] <Nuked> what are you running nrdb? dapper?
[07:25] <jon_> du h
[07:25] <jon_> its on slave
[07:25] <Dr_willis> jon_,  i always set things to 'cs' for cable select.
[07:25] <nrdb> ubuntu 6.06
[07:26] <Nuked> nrdb do whereis kde
[07:26] <jon_> me too
[07:26] <jon_> i just forgot to look
[07:26] <jon_> someone gave this one to me
[07:26] <jon_> i didnt think they had it slaved to anything
[07:26] <jon_> dr_willis, can you give me some advice on installing an nvidia card
[07:26] <jon_> currently i have onboard
[07:26] <Nuked> lmao espanto you overdid it but its my fault
[07:27] <nrdb> Nuked: return "kde:"
[07:27] <Dr_willis> plug it in.. follow the !nvidia wiki
[07:27] <Dr_willis> takes me about 3 min to get mine going on a new install jon_
[07:27] <Dr_willis> !nvidia
[07:27] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:27] <Nuked> nrdb do you have kubuntu installed?
[07:27] <nrdb> Nuked: I have said twice that I am using ubuntu!
[07:28] <Nuked> take it easy thats your problem you need to install kde
[07:28] <nrdb> Nuked: I would very much like not install 100s Mbyte of programs just to get some header files.
[07:29] <Nuked> nrdb be easy, im in the process of looking for the package
[07:29] <jon_> do i have to disable the onboard video on restart
[07:29] <jon_> because im pretty sure i already got the package
[07:29] <jon_> but upon restart i had nothing on the screen
[07:30] <Nuked> nrdb try kdebase
[07:30] <Dr_willis> jon_,  one way to find out.. :P bios settigs to disable it.. and  set agp or whatever to be the default..   you see the post/bootup messages?
[07:30] <Dr_willis> jon_,  dont do like i did.. and forget to plug the monitor into the right video conector. :)
[07:30] <Dr_willis> took me an hr to trouble shoot that. heh .
[07:30] <Nuked> espanto just copy http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30940/ minus all the numbers
[07:31] <jon_> hah!
[07:31] <jon_> no im not sure what its called in bios
[07:31] <jon_> or where its at
[07:31] <Dr_willis> i put tape over the 'onboard' conectors :)
[07:31] <nrdb> Nuked: both 'kdebase' and 'kdebase-dev' what to install many programs etc as well.
[07:32] <Nuked> those are the base files, and I dont see what else you can install to give you the bare minimum
[07:32] <Nuked> see for yourself
[07:32] <nrdb> Nuked: kate as an example
[07:32] <Nuked> sudo apt-cache search kde
[07:33] <jon_> im gonna give it a shot
[07:33] <Nuked> espanto buddy how's it going
[07:34] <espanto> I am uber lost
[07:34] <espanto> some one hold me...
[07:34] <espanto> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30942/
[07:34] <espanto> is taht right now Nuked?
[07:35] <Nuked> espanto excellent
[07:35] <Nuked> save it
[07:35] <espanto> heck yes
[07:35] <Nuked> then close
[07:35] <Nuked> then open konsole
[07:35] <Nuked> type in it sudo apt-get update
[07:36] <espanto> nothing happend
[07:37] <Nuked> look at the konsole outpid
[07:37] <Nuked> ut
[07:37] <Nuked> there should be links galore there
[07:38] <Nuked> did you run         sudo apt-get update        in konsole?
[07:38] <espanto> yeah
[07:38] <espanto> nothing happens
[07:38] <Nuked> copy and paste everything in konsole to pastebin
[07:39] <espanto> i aloso tried kdesu instead of sudo but that did nothing too
[07:39] <Nuked> it did something I guarantee it
[07:39] <jon_> how do i know what version of linux-restricted-modules to install
[07:39] <jon_> more exactly, how do i know what module matches my kernel?
[07:39] <Nuked> it updated the list of packages so that you get the newest ones. You need to tell it what to install
[07:39] <Nuked> jon_: uname -a
[07:40] <Nuked> that tells you all the information about your kernel
[07:40] <espanto> well the kdesu one asked for my PW and when i gave it nothing happend (that i can see)
[07:40] <Nuked> I told you to run it in konsole
[07:40] <espanto> *LOST*
[07:40] <digivore> whats the file that i can setup my network settings automatically ?
[07:40] <Nuked> nrdb use apt-cache search and find something better
[07:41] <Dr_willis> nrdb,  cant say taht ive ever noticed the  problem.. :)
[07:41] <Nuked> espanto
[07:41] <espanto> yes
[07:41] <Dr_willis> of course i got Gigabytes of drive space.. so i dont worry about it much. :)
[07:41] <nrdb> Nuked: there doesn't seem to be.
[07:41] <Nuked> thats my point
[07:41] <Nuked> click on an empty area of your screen and press alt and f2. a small window should pop up
[07:42] <Nuked> espanto do that
[07:42] <Nuked> and type in konsole
[07:42] <espanto> type wat?
[07:42] <espanto> teh kdesu stuff?
[07:42] <Nuked> no
[07:42] <Nuked> dont kdesu unless I specifically tell you to
[07:43] <Nuked> did you press alt and f2?
[07:43] <nrdb> Dr_willis: just try and get the kde header files, you will need to download many other things 'kate' 'arts' etc.
[07:43] <espanto> yeah
[07:43] <Nuked> did the window pop up?
[07:43] <Nuked> a small window
[07:43] <espanto> yeah
[07:44] <Nuked> in the blank space type konsole
[07:44] <Nuked> and hit enter
[07:44] <espanto> tight... ok
[07:44] <Nuked> another window should pop up
[07:44] <espanto> yeah
[07:44] <Nuked> its all black
[07:44] <espanto> yeah
[07:44] <Nuked> now
[07:44] <Nuked> type in sudo apt-get update
[07:44] <Nuked> and hit enter
[07:44] <nrdb> Nuked: Dr_willis: looks like I need to install KDE to a VM just to get the header files I need to compile a program.
[07:45] <SpAwN> hmm i did a updat && upgrade and now my firefox doesnt have any video plugins...even though there installed
[07:45] <espanto> okey dokey Nuked... buch of stuff popped out
[07:45] <Nuked> thats great!
[07:45] <espanto> HECK YES
[07:46] <SpAwN> my mplayer will still play video files on my hdd
[07:46] <Nuked> thats updating the list of available packages for you to install
[07:46] <SpAwN> but it doesnt work in firefox
[07:46] <Nuked> so you get the latest stuff
[07:46] <Nuked> now
[07:46] <espanto> koo
[07:46] <Nuked> in that same black window
[07:46] <espanto> yes
[07:46] <Nuked> type in sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:46] <Nuked> that will update all the packages on your computer
[07:47] <espanto> it asked to continue
[07:47] <Nuked> do it
[07:47] <Nuked> type in y and then hit enter
[07:47] <espanto> yeah
[07:48] <Nuked> that will bring your sh** up to date
[07:48] <Nuked> then we can get to the good stuff
[07:48] <espanto> damn straight
[07:48] <Nuked> has it completed yet?
[07:48] <espanto> yeah
[07:48] <Nuked> excellent
[07:48] <Nuked> now what do you want to install there, buddy
[07:48] <Nuked> ?
[07:49] <espanto> well wat should i get?
[07:49] <Nuked> what type of program
[07:49] <Nuked> depends on what you want to be able to do with your computer
[07:49] <espanto> EVERY THING
[07:49] <Nuked> lmao
[07:49] <Nuked> where do I begin
[07:50] <SlimG> sudo apt-get install * ;) hehe
[07:50] <Nuked> lmao but he needs programs to install
[07:51] <Nuked> do you feel adventurous enough to try and compile your own stuff espanto
[07:51] <espanto> if i knew how then heck yes i would
[07:51] <Nuked> great
[07:52] <espanto> hold up let me get my ADVENTURE jacket
[07:52] <espanto> and my hat
[07:52] <Nuked> we will give you the capability, but only the capability. because you need to learn yo' sh** before you get any further
[07:52] <espanto> koo
[07:53] <Nuked> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[07:53] <Nuked> enter that into konsole
[07:53] <Nuked> and hit enter
[07:53] <Nuked> thats the bare minimum for compiling sh**
[07:54] <espanto> continue it right?
[07:54] <Nuked> sure thing
[07:54] <Jack1> hi room
[07:54] <espanto> ok its dune
[07:54] <Jack1> hhi h3sp4wn
[07:54] <espanto> hi
[07:54] <Nuked> fantastic
[07:54] <Nuked> now sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[07:55] <espanto> ok
[07:55] <Nuked> this allows you to install things in a pretty manageable fashion
[07:55] <Nuked> ill tell you how to do that kind of stuff as time progresses
[07:55] <espanto> great
[07:55] <espanto> its done
[07:56] <Nuked> now, you have all sorts of video players already installed with kde
[07:56] <Nuked> I myself prefer VLC or mplayer
[07:56] <Jack1> guys i got a problem after a stopped dist-upgrade i cannot login any more, i got 100%use on /dev/sda5  mounted on / and du -hs /* shows me that of the 21 Gb used, 16 for /var , /usr 2,8 Gb are.
[07:56] <Jack1> dont know hat to do
[07:57] <Jack1> i dualboot otherwise i did a complete new install
[07:57] <Nuked> jack1 is english your native language?
[07:58] <Jack1> y?
[07:58] <Nuked> just curious
[07:58] <espanto> Nuked:do VLC and MPlayer play ALL the formats?
[07:58] <espanto> or just the Linux stuff
[07:59] <Nuked> vlc and mplayer just rape the competition. I dont think there is anything I havent played with them
[07:59] <espanto> Tiigghht
[07:59] <Nuked> heres the trick
[07:59] <espanto> i like tricks
[08:00] <Nuked> sudo apt-get install installs whatever package you want that is available
[08:00] <Nuked> so for example sudo apt-get install vlc
[08:00] <Nuked> will install vlx
[08:00] <Nuked> c
[08:00] <espanto> how do i know what pack is available?
[08:00] <Nuked> aha! I like where your brain is taking you
[08:01] <Nuked> you have a few options
[08:01] <Nuked> you can use the super easy tool called adept
[08:01] <espanto> taht is?
[08:01] <Nuked> example is the best teacher dude
[08:02] <Nuked> you are going to try it
[08:02] <Nuked> alt and f2 again
[08:02] <Nuked> when the small box pops up
[08:02] <espanto> yea
[08:02] <Nuked> type kdesu adept
[08:03] <Nuked> whoops
[08:03] <espanto> uhh it said "command adept not found"
[08:03] <Nuked> well im on crack
[08:03] <Nuked> lets try it another way
[08:03] <espanto> it happens
[08:04] <Nuked> kment
[08:04] <espanto> are u talking about teh Adept manager thing
[08:04] <espanto> cuz i have that
[08:04] <Nuked> you are one step ahead of me dude
[08:04] <Nuked> go click the fuc***
[08:04] <iarwain> Hi, does anybody know about a "chroot error" ? i tried chrooting, and got this: "could not execute the command '/bin/bash': access denied"
[08:04] <espanto> *CLICK*
[08:05] <Nuked> damn thats odd
[08:06] <Nuked> adept is refusing to start for me
[08:06] <espanto> aight its open.... and can i close the konsole ish now?
[08:06] <Nuked> yeah, I guess so
[08:07] <espanto> yell at it... it might open
[08:07] <Nuked> crazy sh** it isnt opening
[08:07] <Nuked> wow ok let me try something
[08:07] <espanto> hit it.... thats how i deal with my problems
[08:08] <Nuked> wow thats bullshit
[08:08] <Jack1> could someone pls help me?
[08:08] <Nuked> espanto basically everything is ordered by category
[08:08] <Jack1> with the prob described above?
[08:09] <Hawkwind> !language | Nuked
[08:09] <ubotu> Nuked: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[08:10] <Nuked> I am trying Hawkwind, but I cant open adept
[08:10] <Hawkwind> Nuked: That's no reason to break the rules and cuss every few lines
[08:10] <Hawkwind> Nuked: Don't use adept, use apt-get from the CLI, which actually works
[08:11] <Nuked> I am aware of apt-gets usage, I am trying to show someone how to use adept
[08:11] <espanto> thas me :)
[08:11] <Nuked> and as for the language I use asterisks
[08:11] <Hawkwind> Trying to show them the things that don't work :)
[08:11] <espanto> Nuked: ill brb
[08:12] <Hawkwind> Nuked: I don't care, don't do it again, and you didn't use *** every time
[08:12] <Nuked> no prob espanto
[08:12] <galathalion> !libglide2
[08:12] <ubotu> libglide2: graphics library for 3Dfx Voodoo based cards - shared libraries. In component universe, is optional. Version 2002.04.10-13 (edgy), package size 359 kB, installed size 984 kB (Only available for i386 alpha ia64 amd64)
[08:13] <Nuked> hawkwind I thought I had... my apologies
[08:15] <espanto> aww man
[08:31] <max__> hi, i put a new motherboard in my computer and everything is going fine except i cant get any sound... i even put in another card in a PCI slot to see if it was the onboard sound cards problem but i cant get any sound off ther sound card either
[08:39] <max__> hi, i put a new motherboard in my computer and everything is going fine except i cant get any sound... i even put in another card in a PCI slot to see if it was the onboard sound cards problem but i cant get any sound off ther sound card either
[08:43] <philip_> Does anyone here have experience with getting printers to work in kubuntu 6.10?
[08:43] <Jack1> which one?
[08:43] <Jack1> there are good driver pages around
[08:43] <philip_> i have got a Canon-265sp
[08:44] <Jack1> dunno
[08:44] <Jack1> check at the ubuntuforums and there is a site called not sure: linux drivers or so
[08:44] <max__> hi, i put a new motherboard in my computer and everything is going fine except i cant get any sound... i even put in another card in a PCI slot to see if it was the onboard sound cards problem but i cant get any sound off ther sound card either
[08:44] <Jack1> buts a pain in the ass the driver stuff
[08:45] <Hawkwind> max__: Please stop repeating yourself every few minutes
[08:45] <Hawkwind> max__: If/When someone can help you, they will
[08:58] <Arafangion> Hello guys, I've been running Ubuntu for a while, however it didn't work very well with multiple monitors (The panel wasn't handled correctly when maximizing windows, etc)
[08:58] <Arafangion> So I apt-get install kde
[08:59] <Arafangion> Now it works very well :)
[08:59] <Arafangion> My problem now, however, is that I've now just done: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:59] <Arafangion> Now, I am absolutely unable to use the second monitor! It shows the default blue background fine, but I can't use it!
[08:59] <Arafangion> Any suggestions?
[09:00] <Hawkwind> Arafangion: Using Nvidia ?
[09:00] <Arafangion> ATI
[09:00] <Hawkwind> Can't help ya there, sorry
[09:00] <Arafangion> Hawkwind: It is already setup.
[09:00] <Hawkwind> I don't touch ATI, at all
[09:00] <Arafangion> Hawkwind: Works in Gnome, works in every DE and WM I have found, except with kubuntu-desktop
[09:01] <Arafangion> Heck, it even works with kde - if you don't install kubuntu-desktop.
[09:01] <Arafangion> So I know it's not an ATI problem.
[09:02] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: ?? kubuntu-desktop is just kde
[09:03] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: Evidently not.
[09:04] <eilker> hi, anyone knows this?? dpkg-preconfigure: cannot connect to x server :0.0 / debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Kde/ debconf: (Display problem?) / debconf: falling back to frontend: Dialog
[09:05] <Arafangion> eilker: You're running it from a terminal or display, so that's to be expected.  Nothing's wrong
[09:05] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: did you run dpkg --configure -a
[09:06] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: No, why should I?
[09:06] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: and did you setup ximera in kcontrol
[09:06] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: you always run that on major install met packages
[09:06] <eilker> Arafangion: it is when adept install things...nothing from terminal
[09:06] <Linux_Galore_> meta*
[09:06] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: I already had xinerama setup.
[09:07] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: I shall run dpkg --configure -a now.
[09:07] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion:  gnome isnt kde
[09:07] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: It was already setup just fine for KDE, and I was already using it.
[09:07] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: Ok, I had no unconfigured packages.
[09:07] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: I suspect one of the install scripts has defaulted the settings back
[09:08] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: so xinerama is not enabled in kde right now
[09:08] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: so you have to turn it back on
[09:09] <Arafangion> Ok, interesting. Looks like kubuntu-desktop modifies the xorg.conf file.
[09:09] <user-land> Hello. How can i verify if there are really 'too many open files' ?
[09:09] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: deb package are not just big zip files they have an installer script within them that often removes your settings to stop conflicts
[09:12] <peer_> How can I get a task bar in a fresh kubuntu Edgy Eft installation?
[09:12] <Linux_Galore_> peer_:  right hold on, basically you right click on kicker and add the applet
[09:13] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: Ok, re-ran aticonfig, and everything's working again.  It seems that kubuntu-desktop subtlly changes the xorg.conf file?  (Just had an ATI-crappyness-related crash, but things are sweet now)
[09:13] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: Thanks for that :)
[09:14] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: A wierd thing was that kdm was allowing the mouse to move onto the next screen without any trouble. Wierd.
[09:14] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: its very hard to compensate for stupid people (not talking about you) when making a package and their silly settings so the package creators often just flush the old settings
[09:16] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: imho, if it detects that the xorg file has been changed, it should damn well say the same :)
[09:17] <Arafangion> Alternatively, it could ask: "It seems your system has been altered, do you want me to restore the system back to the correct details?"
[09:18] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: you forget the type of people ubuntu is targeted at, they would panic if they saw that question, best to have no questions
[09:18] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: There's three situations: (1) Fresh installation - xorg file doesn't even exist.
[09:19] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: (2) Something's caused dpkg to modify the xorg.conf file, that's still fine.
[09:19] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: So, you only have to deal with the people who actually deliberately modify the file, I doubt a relevant question is going to phase them that much.
[09:19] <Schalken> when i go to the root folder all i see is 'media' and 'home'! should i be worried?
[09:20] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: your forgeting there are thousands of variables that ubuntu has to deal with, your only thinking in relation to your personal setup, dealing with all the variables like hardware variations package conflicts stupid settings conflicts puts a new spin on things, best to flush it and set it back to a sane setup
[09:21] <Linux_Galore_> Schalken: no thats good
[09:21] <Schalken> Linux_Galore_: ???
[09:21] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: There is a difference between a mere conflict or whatever that causes xorg.conf to be changed by any automatic method via dpkg.
[09:21] <Linux_Galore_> Schalken: try sudo ls
[09:22] <Linux_Galore_> Schalken: why have the users playing with system files
[09:22] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: And that which is done by manually editing the file, causing the file's hash to change.
[09:22] <Schalken> Linux_Galore_: actually just plain ls (as normal user) shows all of them normally, its just in konqueror
[09:22] <Linux_Galore_> Schalken: aah
[09:22] <Linux_Galore_> Schalken: although I like it lol
[09:23] <Schalken> i will try sudo konqueror /
[09:23] <Arafangion> Schalken: I don't think the linux filesystem is designed to be navigated in a nice way in the GUI.
[09:23] <Linux_Galore_> Schalken: dumb users use konqueror, the geeks would use a console thus having the extra directories makes sense
[09:23] <Schalken> Linux_Galore_: sudo konqueror / only displays /home and /media as well
[09:23] <Linux_Galore_> Schalken: so to me as an admin making it so konqueror cant see /etc is a plus
[09:24] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: I can't stand having the file browser so *cluttered* by allowing you to see /etc /usr/ and so forth, so I like it too, even as a power user :)
[09:24] <Schalken> Linux_Galore_: but thats like protecting the system with users stupidity => all they need to do is press F12 (Yakuake) and they can see everything
[09:25] <yamal> Schalken: modify the files in /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/ so things are no longer hidden
[09:25] <Schalken> ls and(
[09:25] <Schalken> and*
[09:25] <Linux_Galore_> Schalken: dumb users dont use command line. trust me Ive never seen one of our office workers open a terminal in 5 years
[09:26] <Schalken> well at school we open up the terminal (DOS prompt) all the time trying to get pass the proxy ;)
[09:26] <Arafangion> Schalken: Ahh, and there's the third type of user - the bored kid! ;)
[09:27] <Schalken> well a system should be protected against any kind of user! its like saying my computer is immune unless the user knows how to write a virus
[09:27] <peer_> Linux_Galore_: What's "kicker"? I just have a plein desktop background (with some folder and file symbols, but nothing else).
[09:27] <Linux_Galore_> yeah and you have to remember to a new user /etc /usr /tmp /var /home /mnt dev/  would confuse the crap out of them
[09:28] <Schalken> or is it more of a protecting you from your stupidity thing than security?
[09:28] <Linux_Galore_> peer_: task bar down the bottom of the screen
[09:28] <nekomata> dumb users who are afraid to open up terminals aren't a problem
[09:28] <Arafangion> Schalken: Consider the Mac OS X's file browser.
[09:28] <RobNyc> is there any cool / extra themes for KDE found in Kubuntu repository
[09:28] <peer_> Linux_Galore_: Well, it's that thingy which I didn't see.
[09:28] <Arafangion> Schalken: You _can't_ see any of the system files, directories, or even the file system layout.
[09:28] <yamal> Schalken: see https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/67314 ...
[09:29] <nekomata> it's the users who are quite happy to rampage through the computer dispite not knowing what they are doing that are a problem
[09:29] <Linux_Galore_> peer_: type "kicker" in a terminal
[09:29] <nekomata> "a little bit of knowledge is a dangerous thing" style
[09:30] <yamal> nekomata: on linux you can rampage all you want as a normal user.
[09:30] <Schalken> yamal: if i clear out the text in /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/hidden-root and /etc/kubuntu-default-settings/hidden-media will i see everything?
[09:30] <Linux_Galore_> peer_: are you on the kde desktop its (kicker) always down the bottom by deafult
[09:30] <yamal> Schalken: you got that right
[09:30] <Schalken> yamal: can i just delete the files?
[09:31] <peer_> Linux_Galore_: Ok. Well, the problem is solved. It appeared when I touched the down left corner. Not the down bottom in general which I tried before. (That's not the friendliest setting.)
[09:31] <yamal> or edit them... they just list what should be hidden
[09:31] <Arafangion> Schalken: Never delete files you don't know about, ever.
[09:31] <Arafangion> Schalken: If you want to delete something, instead *move* them to a harmless location.
[09:31] <Linux_Galore_> peer_: I dare say you grabbed it and moved it by accident
[09:31] <Arafangion> Schalken: Such as ~/junk
[09:31] <Schalken> Arafangion: hey i delete my ~/.thumbnails all the time, but then again i know about that folder
[09:31] <Linux_Galore_> peer_: and auto hide isnt a standard setting the user has to turn it on
[09:32] <Arafangion> Schalken: You shouldn't delete ~/.thumbnails - it makes image browsers significantly slower.
[09:32] <peer_> Linux_Galore_: Probably not. It was a fresh install.
[09:32] <peer_> Linux_Galore_: At least that's what I thought I did.
[09:32] <Schalken> Arafangion: yeah and then it caches the thumbnails in a newly created ~/.thumbnails folder, so its back to its usual speed
[09:33] <Linux_Galore_> peer_: mouse over the panel right click ->configure panel -> click on the hiding icon then make sure "only hide when panel hiding button clicked
[09:33] <root> hi
[09:33] <Linux_Galore_> is marked
[09:33] <eilker> !alsa
[09:33] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[09:34] <peer_> Linux_Galore_: Yes, that's what I did once I got the task bar. I also somewhat miss a splash screen. I appears as if it boots directly into the logon window, before that, for some time, it's busy booting with a black screen.
[09:34] <root> i can only login using consolelogin and doing startx as sudo
[09:34] <root> if i do it normal way it kicks me out
[09:34] <Linux_Galore_> peer_: you can right click and hold and drag kicker to the bottom of your screen
[09:34] <root> what shall i do?
[09:34] <Arafangion> root: Users who call themselves root can fix their own problems.
[09:34] <Schalken> how come ls doesnt produce coloured output anymore?
[09:34] <root> Arafangion, very funny
[09:34] <eilker> root: i have same problem
[09:35] <Linux_Galore_> peer_: that set in kcontrol ie login splash screen etc
[09:35] <Arafangion> root: Hey, it's a variation of the same old tired comment about root, surely?
[09:35] <eilker> root: and i have only two users
[09:35] <Linux_Galore_> peer_:  menu-> run command  type  kcontrol
[09:35] <root> guys hello any idea??
[09:35] <eilker> root: is lamp server installed in your pc?
[09:35] <peer_> Linux_Galore_: Ok, I'll try that. Thank you so far!
[09:35] <root> just the default stuff nothing else
[09:35] <root> eilker,
[09:36] <root> y?
[09:36] <Linux_Galore_> peer_: kcontrol allows you to setup just about everything
[09:36] <eilker> root: my problem started after installing lamp server, so that i asked for it
[09:36] <eilker> root: do u also have xauth problem ?
[09:37] <root> what u mean? not that i would know of...eilker
[09:37] <root> eilker mine started after dist-upgrading
[09:37] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: I find it very interesting how differently windows, mac and linux systems are used.
[09:37] <eilker> root: mine too...
[09:37] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: On windows, users actually _prefer_ very large programs that do everything
[09:37] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: yeah its a learning process like anything
[09:38] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: I'm talking about the Firefox craze with it's ten zillion extensions.
[09:38] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: Rather than using each tool for what it's *designed* for.
[09:38] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: well Unix methods are more about making things plugable with lots of small tools
[09:38] <Arafangion> Yup.
[09:38] <eilker> yes people "root" also has same problem, could anyone experienced for the problem
[09:39] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: the advantage being there are usually 10 tools for each job and you can choose the best one
[09:39] <root> eilker i get the the prob that "nautilus says it has quit" and the error message is unclosable
[09:40] <eilker> root: mine is konqueror....
[09:40] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: I just find it particularly annoying - The firefox weenies are all saying how good their browser is, etc, and I have to keep saying that I *prefer* Opera.
[09:40] <root> well startx opens gnome for me cannot help
[09:40] <root> eilker
[09:41] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: use what works for you, I never have an opinion on what people use
[09:41] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: if you pefere something and it works for you go for it
[09:42] <eilker> root: i had searched too much for it, in  forums, and here , also in x.org,etc,  i couldnt solve it,  i think that it is releated with xserver configuration or xauth files...
[09:42] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: attacking people makes them defensive and doesn't help the cause
[09:42] <peer_> Linux_Galore_: Yes, in principle I know kcontrol. But it has no "task bar setup" function, that's only on the kicker applet -- which I didn't have. In general, I'm satisfied with kubuntu -- and it's getting better wiith each release.
[09:43] <Linux_Galore_> peer_: if you enable the tasbar the setup apears
[09:43] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: Yup, but when I asked him why he likes to run FF with all it's extensions rather than running programs that actually are designed for it, such as xchat instead of chatzilla.
[09:44] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: Have you used WinXP?
[09:44] <root> eilker it sounds so easy here
[09:44] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: He likes to see his apps appear in that list of 5 "preferred" Applications - interesting, eh?
[09:45] <eilker> people help to root pls ...:)
[09:45] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: chatizailla is horrible sheesh
[09:46] <root> eilker did u read the link?
[09:46] <eilker> root: which link?
[09:46] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: yes but only once lol, then I install Linux over it
[09:46] <root> eilker pm
[09:46] <eilker> ok
[09:47] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: I found it very confusing
[09:48] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: I just found windows too slow to bother with (A fact I blame on remarkably poor power management drivers)
[09:48] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: It is confusing the way it keeps rearranging the items, indeed.
[09:48] <eilker> root: some registration problem, i cant pm
[09:49] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: I just couldnt get it to do "what I wanted it to do", XP kept wanting to do its won weird thing
[09:49] <Linux_Galore_> own*
[09:49] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: The final straw for me came when I noticed that I was typing so fast that Visual Studio wouldn't show the last two lines I'd typed (while typing, that is)
[09:49] <root> h3sp4wn,
[09:50] <root> are u there?
[09:50] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: then after a few attempts of trying to get it to setup my dvd device in the way I like it , it gave up and crashed
[09:50] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: Windows DVD players are pathetic.
[09:51] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: I often feel that the Ubuntu company should make a version that you can pay for, that has all the DVD and mp3 goodness.
[09:51] <Arafangion> (By default - I used to compile LFS myself, now I just want things to work)
[09:52] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: I went to a windows help forum and I was told to hack the registry, Im like wtf, I used to hack the registry in windows 95 because it was so dumb that was often the only way to get things going, then to find out XP isnt much better made me laugh
[09:53] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: Linspire do that
[09:53] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: I Loathe the registery.  I wish that they only used it for what it was designed for - to register COM objects.
[09:53] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: Mind you, to configure wine, you have to use the registry editor ;)
[09:53] <Linux_Galore_> Arafangion: there is a servive from memory that ubuntu does that sells the $$$ bits
[09:53] <Linux_Galore_> service*
[09:54] <RobNyc> how do u install this http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=46677
[09:54] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: Nice, I'd have to look into that.
[09:54] <Schalken> where are icon stored?
[09:54] <Schalken> icons*
[09:54] <Arafangion> Schalken: Everywhere and anywhere :(
[09:54] <Linux_Galore_> RobNyc: Ubuntu doesnt use compiz
[09:54] <RobNyc> oh
[09:55] <Schalken> Arafangion: okay, say i have an icon pack and install it in kde's icon settings, where do they go?
[09:55] <RobNyc> thanks
[09:55] <Linux_Galore_> RobNyc: ubuntu used beryl its a fork of compiz
[09:56] <RobNyc> Linux_Galore_, got'cha
[09:56] <RobNyc> i hear about it a lot
[09:56] <ubuntu> join #ubuntu-forum.de
[09:56] <Linux_Galore_> RobNyc: there were too many issues with compiz
[09:56] <RobNyc> im gonna try to get aiglx on this ati i dont know if i'll be able to though
[09:57] <Linux_Galore_> RobNyc: yeah there are a few howto on doing it, its not hard
[09:57] <RobNyc> just last time I tried to get AIGLX on my ati x1600 pro broke X =\
[09:58] <RobNyc> i'll try tomorrow though is 4am .. I'll see if i search the forums and see what ati users says , cuz i dont wanna get XGL really its too much pain
[09:58] <Linux_Galore_> RobNyc: http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[09:59] <Linux_Galore_> RobNyc: ati have nice hardware but crap drivers
[09:59] <RobNyc> yeah
[09:59] <RobNyc> definitely
[09:59] <RobNyc> so ati and aiglx still dont work ?
[09:59] <Linux_Galore_> RobNyc: not very well most people just get a cheap nvidia card
[09:59] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: That's true even on windows :(
[10:00] <RobNyc> im gonna get a 7600gt in like 2weeks but not 100% sure yet if im getting it at all but hoping so
[10:00] <eilker> "no soundcards found" as usr, but root can find! , could anyone help pls ?
[10:00] <nekomata> firefox question: after mesing around with settings in about:config do you need to restart firefox for them to take effect?
[10:00] <Arafangion> Linux_Galore_: A friend of mine got a nice 8x AGP ATI graphics card, etc, but after many weeks, finally determined that it was the ATI card that kept crashing his system.
[10:00] <RobNyc> so the only way to get beryl is to use xgl
[10:00] <Linux_Galore_> RobNyc: 7600 is more than enough grunt, I use a 6200 card with 128mb of ram and xgl works fine
[10:01] <RobNyc> =)
[10:01] <kraut> moin
[10:01] <Linux_Galore_> RobNyc: follow this howto  its all you need http://wiki.beryl-project.org/index.php/Install/Ubuntu/Edgy/XGL
[10:01] <eilker> !groups > eilker
[10:01] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about groups - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:02] <RobNyc> yes Linux_Galore_ thanks a lot, does it matter if im on kubuntu
[10:02] <Linux_Galore_> RobNyc: nope
[10:02] <RobNyc> great
[10:02] <RobNyc> cuz i never seen this stuff on kubuntu
[10:02] <RobNyc> thanks much
[10:02] <RobNyc> will try some stuff now & see
[10:03] <Linux_Galore_> RobNyc: yeah there are add on for kde for the beryl effects , saw one recently for true transparency for konsole
[10:04] <Linux_Galore_> RobNyc: to be honest I disabled it in the end it's distracting lol
[10:04] <RobNyc> lol
[10:04] <RobNyc> i never tried this stuff dont know
[10:04] <Linux_Galore_> you spend all day playing with things
[10:04] <RobNyc> but i've played with XGL only b4
[10:05] <Linux_Galore_> Im out, bbl
[10:05] <RobNyc> ttyl
[10:05] <xsacha> dont need aiglx, Xgl or nvidia inbuilt aiglx to use beryl now :)
[10:06] <Arafangion> Linux_galore_: Are you a programmer?
[10:09] <eka> anyone want to help me out real quick? just some CL help
[10:10] <eka> i need to take a folder full of files, and copy them into my "C:\" drive, which i can't access
[10:11] <D1G1T|away> any link that could help me connect to the internet on kubuntu 5.10? O_O
[10:12] <eka>  i need to take a folder full of files, and copy them into my "C:\" drive, which i can't access - can anyone help me with CL?
[10:13] <eilker> !gpasswd  >eilker
[10:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about gpasswd - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:13] <Arafangion> eka: Due to various reasons, you can't write to NTFS partitions (ie, what is now the default format for windows).
[10:13] <Arafangion> eka: You can write to any thing else, though.
[10:15] <eilker> !alsa
[10:15] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[10:18] <eka> oh
[10:19] <eka> Arafangion: it's a WINE directory, does that make any difference?
[10:21] <Arafangion> eka: Ah, then by default it's in ~/.wine/drive_c
[10:21] <eka> hmm
[10:21] <eka> so what can i do about copying files into a steam directory ;)?
[10:22] <Arafangion> eka: cp files ~./wine/drive_c/path_to_stream_directory
[10:22] <Arafangion> eka: Realise that wine is a remarkably _thin_ layer over linux.
[10:22] <eka> i see, thank you very much, i'm going to try it out ;)
[10:23] <eilker> Arafangion: "no soundcards found" as user, but root can find! , could you look at my pastebin pls, and see what gives when i write groups..http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30945/
[10:23] <eka> but YOU must realise that i'm a huge linux noob :D
[10:26] <Arafangion> eilker: winecfg I believe.
[10:27] <eilker> Arafangion: winecfg?? what is the relation with wine ?
[10:29] <eka> aha arafangion i'm having trouble
[10:29] <eka> i feel so terrible
[10:39] <RobNyc> Linux_Galore, XGL+Beryl kinda buggy but its working
[10:40] <eilker> people when i write "groups" in console, i only get "eilker" and "admin" , could some tell me how can i add video audio etc, i dont know the way :(
[10:40] <RobNyc> I might try it on gnome and see if its more stable
[10:41] <Arafangion> eilker: sudo usermod -g eilker -G admin,video,audio,etc eilker
[10:41] <Arafangion> eilker: Obviously, substitute whatever you meant by "etc" :)
[10:42] <eilker> arafangion: ahahah:))) thanx man,
[10:42] <edulix> hi!
[10:42] <edulix> in which deb package is the code for the kde log out screen?
[10:42] <edulix> I want to change the suspend command
[10:43] <Arafangion> edulix: Ok, that's not in the kde logout screen.
[10:43] <Arafangion> edulix: You want to look in /etc/apm
[10:43] <Arafangion> edulix: But you won't get any support for this :)
[10:44] <edulix> Arafangion: apm? I thought I used acpi :P well I'll take a look
[10:45] <compilerwriter> Hello all.
[10:45] <compilerwriter> I am just now trying out kde and want to know how to import my contacts from evolution into Kontact?
[10:46] <Arafangion> edulix: We don't use a.out files anymore, either, but that's still the default name for hte gcc compiler :)
[10:47] <compilerwriter> OMG a.out  I feel old.
[10:47] <compilerwriter> I remember a.out from my college years.
[10:47] <Arafangion> compilerwriter: Then you'll realise that they're essentially PC COFF files, right?
[10:47] <eilker> arafangion: is the command correct ? "sudo usermod -g eilker -G audio eilker"  , i write this command, after i write groups again only "eilker" and "admin"  no audio...
[10:47] <Arafangion> compilerwriter: Which is very close to what windows *currently* uses.
[10:48] <edulix> Arafangion: Ok I've taken a look, but I don't know much what to change in those files
[10:48] <Arafangion> eilker: The "comma-separated-list" is deliberate.
[10:48] <Linux_Galore> RobNyc: yeah its still being worked on
[10:48] <Linux_Galore> RobNyc: should all be stable by the time kde 4 comes out
[10:49] <edulix> so basically, what does KDE do when I clic suspend? it calls to /etc/apmapmd_proxy suspend ?
[10:49] <compilerwriter> arafangion I gues I realized that.
[10:49] <Arafangion> edulix: Probably.
[10:49] <edulix> oks
[10:49] <compilerwriter> Never really thought about it.
[10:49] <eilker> arafangion: i write as                           sudo usermod -g eilker -G audio eilker
[10:49] <Arafangion> eilker: Then that'll remove you from all the other groups, and add you to your primary group of eilker, and another group "audio".
[10:50] <Arafangion> eilker: If you want to be in video as well, then you have to write: sudo usermod -g eilker -G audio,video eilker
[10:51] <eilker> arafangion: i wrote, sudo usermod -g eilker -G audio,video eilker , after when i write groups, i only see eilker and admin, is this normal ?
[10:54] <compilerwriter> Anyone know a quick and easy way to move contacts from Evolution to Kontact?
[10:54] <nana> .
[10:55] <Arafangion> eilker: The new memberships are only realised at login.
[10:55] <octan> compilerwriter, dont think thers a easy way
[10:55] <eilker> arafangion: thanx
[10:55] <octan> only the manual way
[10:56] <compilerwriter> Just have to sync out of my palm.
[10:56] <compilerwriter> The next question is there and easy way to copy the messages in evolution into Kontact?
[10:56] <Arafangion> compilerwriter: That's usually the easiest way ;)
[10:57] <compilerwriter> I am trying to decide which to use.
[10:57] <Arafangion> compilerwriter: Which palm do you have?
[10:57] <compilerwriter> I have a zire21  It is a cheapy.
[10:57] <compilerwriter> gnome pilot worked just fine on it when I switched to kde session to try it.
[10:57] <Arafangion> compilerwriter: I've got a T|X, but that's not entirely "nice" with linux (unfortunately).
[10:58] <compilerwriter> Funny thing was gnome pilot would not do squat for me in gnome.
[10:58] <eilker> arafangion: may i ask for one more favor ? could you write groups in your console, and copy paste here, i dont wanna forget the things to add...
[11:00] <eilker> or anyone ?
[11:00] <Arafangion> arafangion adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin
[11:01] <eilker> thank you
[11:01] <compilerwriter> How do I get my stuff to sync with both Kontact and Evolution?
[11:01] <Arafangion> eilker: Mind you, this is Dapper I'm running on :)
[11:01] <eilker>  <Arafangion: here too:)
[11:08] <compilerwriter> arafangion do you have any clue how to get my zire to sync with Kontact and Evolution?
[11:09] <Arafangion> compilerwriter: YOu shouldn't have any significant issues with Evolution.
[11:09] <Arafangion> compilerwriter: Unfotunately, due to a small change int he protocol, I can't sync very easily at all, so I don't bother.
[11:10] <compilerwriter> I don't really.  I just wanted to try to sync to both and figure out which one I liked best.
[11:10] <Arafangion> compilerwriter: If you're into sync'ing, sharing stuff, calendars and everything, you may find evo better.
[11:10] <Jasey>  hey there. as an old time mac user, i was very glad to see the whole mac os-like menu bar. i have it enabled usually. only hitch is, the panel isnt wide enough to fit my icons ... or maybe my icons arent small enough to fit inside ... im not sure ... anyway, when i put the K menu up in the top panel, i only see a chunk of the middle. how would i go about making the bar wider? or icons smaller --- thanks in advance heh
[11:11] <eka> i do not like mac D:
[11:11] <Arafangion> Jasey: Right-click on teh panel and set the properties.
[11:11] <Jasey> and
[11:11] <Arafangion> Jasey: Can get it to auto-expand.
[11:12] <Jasey> it isnt that sort of panel tho
[11:12] <Arafangion> Jasey: Would you be able to show a screenshot with the indicated panel visually shown?
[11:13] <Jasey> sure, where would i put the screenshot?
[11:13] <octan> hey any. norwegians in her that uses mythtv ????
[11:13] <eka> www.imageshack.net
[11:13] <eka> .. i think i'm norwegian..
[11:13] <eka> hmm O.o
[11:13] <Arafangion> octan: Ok, obviously, english isn't your first language ;)
[11:14] <octan> ;) you fig that :P
[11:14] <octan> Arafangion, well i know my english suxz :P
[11:14] <Arafangion> octan: On the other hand, maybe you just dropped the 'e' off the end of "here" ;)
[11:15] <octan> i saw that
[11:15] <octan> Arafangion, not by any chanses a norwegian that uses mythtv ? :P
[11:15] <octan> are you?
[11:16] <eilker> arafangion: i am gonna cry i exactly gave this command     sudo usermod -g eilker -G eilker,adm,admin,dialout,cdrom,floppy,audio,dip,plugdev,lpadmin,audio,video eilker           and reboot, than now i write groups, it shows only eilker and video :(((
[11:16] <eka> i'm norwegian from due to ancestry, but - i have no idea what mythtv is!
[11:17] <octan> eka its a mediacenter.. alla Ms mediacenter ,,, but better ;)
[11:17] <Arafangion> eilker: You don't get any errors from typing in the command?
[11:17] <eka> i seeeee ;)
[11:17] <eka> well you should tell me about norwegian history, because i don't know anything of my ancestry
[11:18] <octan> LOL
[11:18] <eka> sound good ^_^?
[11:18] <ermak> i have just installed kubuntu edgy, and trying to run eclipse, but get the followin:
[11:18] <eilker> arafangion: nope, it only asks for password
[11:18] <ermak> searching for compatible vm...
[11:18] <ermak>   testing /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.5.0-sun...found
[11:18] <ermak> kdialog: Unknown option '--warning'.
[11:18] <ermak> kdialog: Use --help to get a list of available command line options.
[11:19] <ermak> what is wrong?
[11:19] <Arafangion> eilker: Which you provide, and it works without any other problems?
[11:19] <Arafangion> ermak: #java
[11:20] <eilker> arafangion: the command works, but i still cant have the groups
[11:20] <eilker> arafangion: for example still no audio
[11:20] <ermak> but before I had dapper and eclipse 3.1 and that worked fine
[11:20] <Jasey> okay, uploading the screenshot Arafangion.
[11:21] <octan> eilker added yourself to /etc/group?
[11:21] <octan> under audio
[11:21] <eka> octan! norwegian history, go!
[11:22] <octan> eka, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway
[11:22] <octan> :P
[11:22] <eilker> octan: let me check
[11:22] <eka> w00t!
[11:22] <octan> eilker grep audio /etc/group
[11:23] <octan> grep audio /etc/group
[11:23] <octan> audio:x:29:octan,nuxil
[11:23] <octan> :)
[11:23] <eka> zomg
[11:23] <eilker> octan: it says audio:x:29:
[11:23] <eka> the norwegians were vikings?
[11:23] <octan> ahah
[11:23] <eka> i'm a freaking viking?
[11:23] <Jasey> Arafangion:  http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m10/feetyjasey/xaw.jpg
[11:23] <eka> woooo!
[11:23] <octan> eilker, thats your problem
[11:23] <Arafangion> How do I use multiple desktops, AND move windows from one to the other?
[11:23] <octan> your not listed under audio
[11:23] <eka> octan!.. our people were once vikings!
[11:23] <eilker> octan: what should i do ?
[11:24] <octan> add your username to audio
[11:24] <octan> eka, i know
[11:24] <octan> :) cool or what
[11:24] <eka> cool x1000
[11:24] <Jasey> Arafangion: right click the titlebar of the window, there should be a move option or something. and in the kicker panel there should be a Desktop Pager applet
[11:24] <Arafangion> Jasey: Looks like a glitch, report it as a bug to the manager of that theme.
[11:24] <Jasey> of what theme
[11:25] <Jasey> no no, when i first set it up, it showed fine
[11:25] <Arafangion> Jasey: You have a Mac OS X-like system theme.
[11:25] <Jasey> it happens on any theme
[11:25] <Arafangion> Jasey: Hmm, you running Gnome?
[11:25] <Jasey> .... KDE
[11:26] <_gpg_> hi
[11:26] <Jasey> it shows fine initially. i think KDE does some magic auto resizing thing blah. then it resized and the icons are obscured now.
[11:26] <Arafangion> Jasey: Looks like a glitch, that's all I can say :(
[11:27] <Arafangion> Jasey: A bug, even.
[11:27] <Jasey> i doubt it. but thanks anyway.
[11:27] <Arafangion> How do I setup my system into xinerama mode?
[11:27] <Arafangion> I want to move my windows right, and have them appear on the other physical monitor.
[11:27] <Jasey> what graphics card do you have?
[11:27] <octan> 2 thinkgs needed to do that Arafangion
[11:27] <Arafangion> octan: Which is?
[11:28] <octan> 1st edit you xorg
[11:28] <octan> .conf
[11:28] <Jasey> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=221174
[11:28] <Jasey> there
[11:28] <octan> 1 sec pls
[11:28] <Jasey> a how to to set it up
[11:28] <Arafangion> It was all working fine before I installed kubuntu-desktop
[11:28] <octan> Arafangion, add this to your xorg.conf
[11:28] <octan> Section "Extensions"
[11:28] <octan>     Option         "Composite" "Enable"
[11:28] <octan> EndSection
[11:29] <octan> if i remember correct
[11:29] <_gpg_> anyone got link explaining how to uptade the installation repositories ?
[11:29] <eka> octan! we must take to the streets, as vikings!
[11:29] <octan> Arafangion, 1st hit on google,, explains it
[11:29] <eka> start fires we must!
[11:29] <Jasey> lol
[11:29] <octan> HEHE
[11:29] <Jasey> didnt i just give a link for a how to?
[11:29] <Arafangion> octan: I've already got   Option      "DesktopSetup" "horizontal"
[11:30] <Arafangion> octan: And I'm using ATI.
[11:30] <Arafangion> I *know* that it works in ATI.
[11:31] <octan> Arafangion, under
[11:31] <octan> Section "ServerLayout"
[11:31] <octan> add this
[11:31] <octan>         Option      "Xinerama" "off"
[11:31] <octan> erm
[11:31] <octan> om
[11:31] <octan> ON
[11:31] <octan>         Option      "Xinerama" "on"
[11:32] <eka> octan, grab your helmet and leather armor, aswell your axe! we take to the streets!
[11:33] <_gpg_> well where can i find an uptodate sources.list please (kubuntu )
[11:33] <_gpg_> 6.10
[11:34] <eka> storm city hall we must!
[11:34] <Hobbsee> !repos
[11:34] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:34] <octan> and die as brave vikings and go to valhall
[11:34] <Hobbsee> ooookay!
[11:36] <snpz> hi, does anyone have any experience with broadcom 4311 chip wifi cards?
[11:36] <snpz> afaik it works only with ndisswrapper and windows driver
[11:36] <Arafangion> Heh, just broke my X :)
[11:36] <octan> LOL
[11:37] <eka> who cares about your x, become a viking!
[11:37] <eka> storm city hall with octan and i!
[11:37] <edulix> hi
[11:37] <edulix> I've added this with visudo:
[11:37] <edulix> Host_Alias LOCALHOST=localhost,127.0.0.1
[11:37] <edulix> ALL LOCALHOST=NOPASSWD: /usr/local/sbin/hibernate *, /usr/local/sbin/hibernate-ram *
[11:38] <edulix> but it still ask me for a password when I do edulix@paloalto$ sudo hibernate-ram
[11:38] <eilker> octan: thanx friend, i modified etc/group file now it added those "eilker adm audio video admin"
[11:38] <philip_> Is there anyway to get things you have installed in Add/Remove Programs to automatically appear in your programs menu?
[11:38] <octan> np
[11:41] <philip_> For some reason, some programs appear in my menu and some dont.  Does anyone know the reason why, and how to fix it?
[11:42] <octan> philip_, non kde apps has a bad habbit of not getting in the menus
[11:42] <philip_> Is there anyway to find the missing non-Kde items?
[11:43] <octan> philip_, add them manualy
[11:43] <octan> wheris appname
[11:43] <octan> on cli
[11:43] <edulix> come on someone must know something about the sudoers file :P
[11:43] <octan> then edit the menus and add the path and ass a icon
[11:43] <octan> edulix, whats the problem?
[11:44] <octan> edulix, want no pw with sudo?
[11:45] <racoon> ciao
[11:45] <edulix> octan: this is the problem:
[11:45] <racoon> c' un italiano
[11:45] <racoon> ?
[11:45] <edulix> I want to be able to execute hibernate-ram without being asked for a password from any user
[11:46] <edulix> I've added this:
[11:46] <edulix>  I've added this with visudo: ALL localhost=NOPASSWD: /usr/local/sbin/hibernate-ram . but when I do edulix@mymachine$ sudo hibernate-ram it stil ask me for a password
[11:46] <xsacha> sudo will always ask for password..
[11:47] <octan> xsacha, not ture
[11:47] <xsacha> even sudo echo hi
[11:47] <edulix> well actually I'm using ALL localhost=NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/hibernate-ram and I'm trying to do sudo /usr/sbin/hibernate-ram
[11:47] <octan> edit /etc/sudoers
[11:47] <octan> and add:
[11:47] <octan> username ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[11:47] <xsacha> unless you've already typed it
[11:47] <xsacha> he didnt do that
[11:47] <edulix> xsacha: I did something more restricted
[11:47] <octan> xsacha, you dont need pw with sudo im telling you'
[11:48] <xsacha> i know that octan.. but unless you've done that, it will always ask for password
[11:48] <octan> yes,,
[11:48] <octan> thats for sure
[11:48] <philip_> I have already manualy added some of the programs, but I cant remeber the names of the rest of the things I have installed.  Is there anyway to find them
[11:48] <xsacha> and he hasnt done that
[11:50] <dopez> hello, i'm having some issues with kubuntu 6.10 that none of the programs i install are showing up in the menus, anyone an idea where i can fix it ?
[11:50] <octan> dopez non kde apps?
[11:51] <dopez> octan: also, but also kde apps are not showing up
[11:51] <octan> omh
[11:51] <tsdgeos> dopez: rebooted the machine?
[11:51] <tsdgeos> if not, probably you need to run kbuildsycoca
[11:51] <fdoving> dopez: try to run 'kbuildsycoca --incremental' from the konsole (kmenu->system->konsole)
[11:51] <tsdgeos> kubuntu sucks in that way
[11:51] <octan> 1 sec.. im trying a brain storm and see if i can remeber the command to rebuild the menus
[11:52] <octan> its tooooooo eraly in the morning for me
[11:53] <dopez> okay, i rebooted the box already, didn't help, now i ran the kbuildsycoca command and exits with an error, no database available
[11:54] <dopez> it did work before though, mplayer, vlc and so are in the menu's, just anything i install now doesn't show up
[11:54] <eilker> octan: it was like this "cdrom:x:24:haldaemon" i made it as "cdrom:x:24:haldaemon:eilker" but the things like cdrom dialout which has haldemon extension are not added to groups...
[11:55] <edulix> ok
[11:55] <eka> octan.. i'm norwegian, and i'm drinking tea? wtf?
[11:55] <edulix> sudo worked
[11:55] <Schalken> inkscape's toolbar buttons in kubuntu are half the usual size. how can i make them normal again?
[11:55] <eka> that doesn't seem right
[11:55] <edulix> suspend didn't
[11:56] <edulix> lol
[11:56] <octan> eka, wtf.. you need some flymushrom
[11:56] <eka> fly mushroom?
[11:56] <eka> whta's that?
[11:56] <octan> flue sopp
[11:56] <octan> :P
[11:56] <octan> eilker, 1 sec
[11:56] <eka> hmm?
[11:56] <eka> flue sopp?
[11:56] <eka> >.<
[11:57] <eilker> octan: oki
[11:57] <octan> i see your problem eilker
[11:57] <octan> you did it wrong
[11:58] <octan> you need a , not :
[11:58] <octan> like this
[11:58] <octan> cdrom:x:24:haldaemon,octan,nuxil
[11:58] <fdoving> are you editing /etc/group by hand? - that's, not the easy way.
[11:59] <eilker> ohh ok, but for admin it is a :  ? right not ,
[11:59] <fdoving> 'sudo adduser username group' is easier.
[11:59] <octan> fdoving, indeed
[11:59] <fdoving> or even using system settings -> user management
[11:59] <eilker> fdoving: we couldnt do it:(
[11:59] <fdoving> eilker: why not?
[12:00] <intelikey> i'm picking up a strange boot time message...  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30954/plain/  any insite ?
[12:00] <eilker> fdoving: "sudo usermod -g eilker -G  adm admin dialout cdrom floppy audio dip plugdev lpadmin audio video eilker" this didnt work
[12:00] <intelikey> or just use groupadd ^
[12:00] <fdoving> eilker: 'sudo adduser username group' works.
[12:01] <ubuntu> hey, i storaged some data on my PSP. the menu from PSP says, there aren't datas, but konqueror says, there are...
[12:01] <Sudo|Faderhval> hi im trying to create a partition with cfdisk right now its showin FS Linux i want it to show Linux ext3 how do i do that?
[12:01] <eilker> fdoving:" sudo eilker audio " will it be like this ?
[12:01] <eilker> fdoving:" sudo eilker  eilker audio " will it be like this ?
[12:01] <fdoving> Sudo|Faderhval: cfdisk makes partitions, not filesystems. it shouldn't say ext3.
[12:02] <fdoving> eilker: 'sudo adduser eilker audio' will add the user 'eilker' to the group 'audio'.
[12:02] <Sudo|Faderhval> so i use parted for the FS?
[12:02] <eilker> fdoving: thanx
[12:02] <intelikey> Sudo|Faderhval you can set the lable when you make a file system there.    mke2fs
[12:03] <eilker> octan: i have some registiration problem for pm:(
[12:04] <eilker> octan: sorry for it, i cant answer from there
[12:04] <octan> eilker, the setup of the file is simple... its always like etc::  cdrom:x:115:name1,name2,name3
[12:04] <octan> for everything in that file
[12:04] <octan> dosnt matter what it is,,,
[12:05] <fdoving> Sudo|Faderhval: you can for example, use 'qtparted' to format and manage partitions. it's graphical and you can rightclick -> format, on each partition.
[12:05] <octan> thing:x:number:name1,name2,name3 and so on
[12:05] <Sudo|Faderhval> im doing it in a ssh terminal
[12:06] <eka> be you angels?
[12:06] <eka> NEIGH
[12:06] <eka> we are but men!
[12:06] <eka> ROCK!
[12:06] <eka> hiiiiiiiiieiiiiiiiiohhhhyaohh
[12:06] <Sudo|Faderhval> Tenacious D Rock!
[12:06] <fdoving> Sudo|Faderhval: ok, then remember the device name, let's say you have created a linux partition, /dev/hda2, then to make a ext3 filesystem on it, run 'mkfs.ext3 /dev/hda2'
[12:06] <vikke> hello, i have now set up my chroot environment and was hoping i could run applications through 32bit, but i cant install anything through it couse it always says it depends on a bunch of packages :(
[12:06] <ibert> hi! could this be a problem, when I use apt-get install for installing new software packages, and adept to update the system? I've read somewhere that a mix of packet-manager could cause a mess.
[12:06] <fdoving> eka: behave, this is a support channel, for random offtopic chatting go to #kubuntu-offtopic.
[12:07] <eka> ugh sorry. i love you >.<
[12:08] <Sudo|Faderhval> shrug no support for ext3 filesystem it says!
[12:08] <edulix> dcop allows us to list all the sessions for each user
[12:08] <edulix> ut how do I get a list of active dcop users ?
[12:08] <intelikey> ibert it could but you only have one package manager.   dpkg   all the frontends adept/synaptic/aptitude/apt use dpkg.
[12:09] <eilker> octan:thanx friend
[12:10] <ibert> intelikey: thanks. so it's possible to mix all the four tools.
[12:10] <octan> eilker, no problem
[12:10] <intelikey> Sudo|Faderhval as root   mke2fs -cj /dev/<device>
[12:10] <eilker> fdoving: i only can login from console login, do u have any idea for this ?
[12:11] <fdoving> edulix: 'dcop --list-sessions --all-users'
[12:11] <fdoving> eilker: does kdm start? do you get error messages? if kdm starts, how does it behave when you try to login?
[12:12] <intelikey> thoughts ?  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30954/plain/
[12:12] <Sudo|Faderhval> intelikey but that would still just make an ext2 fs right?
[12:12] <intelikey> Sudo|Faderhval no.
[12:13] <intelikey> ext3 is ext2 + journal    -j switch adds a journal
[12:13] <eilker> fdoving: kdm starts, kde login screen comes, i write my password, and a console comes...i write startx it says "xauth: creating new authority file" "user not authorized to run xserver"
[12:13] <eka> high above the mucky muck, castle made of clouds
[12:14] <intelikey> it's what mkfs.ext3 exec's
[12:14] <Sudo|Faderhval> ok thank you!
[12:14] <eilker> fdoving: than i close that console, again kde login screen comes, i say "console login" after that i login...
[12:15] <fdoving> eilker: what does 'stat -c %a /usr/bin/X' return?
[12:15] <jesper> Problems formating/burning a DVD-RW using dvd+rw-tools... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30955/plain/
[12:16] <eilker> fdoving:  6755eilker@eilker:~$
[12:16] <intelikey> eilker may i sujest you   rm ~/.*auth*      and retry.
[12:16] <eilker> intelikey: i tried it many times, still same
[12:17] <fdoving> eilker: can you pastebin the contents of /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config ?
[12:18] <eilker> fdoving:  ok sir
[12:18] <edulix> fdoving: thanks
[12:18] <Acc\Deny> intelikey: Hello :)
[12:18] <intelikey> Acc\Deny
[12:18] <Acc\Deny> intelikey: My problem yesterday was fixed.. by forcing vga=791. However, I have a new problem now.
[12:20] <Acc\Deny> intelikey: I have /boot and / on separate partitions. grub was installed on /boot, not on MBR. I use the windows loader to get the Grub menu. But, now when i select kubuntu i get Error 24 of grub...
[12:20] <eilker> fdoving:  here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30957/
[12:20] <intelikey> Acc\Deny give me a sec.
[12:21] <fdoving> eilker: ok, that looks good too.. running out of options.. i'll google a little, hang on.
[12:21] <Acc\Deny> intelikey: sure.
[12:21] <eilker> fdoving: ok sir, in fact i googled too much, i couldnt have any results....
[12:22] <fdoving> eilker: is allow-user-xsession present in /etc/X11/Xsession.options ?
[12:23] <Sudo|Faderhval> im getting an error saying filesystem was not cleanly unmounted!
[12:24] <eilker> fdoving:  here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30958/
[12:25] <fdoving> eilker: that's ok, too.. hmm.
[12:25] <eilker> fdoving: this problem occured after i installed upgrades in 6.06
[12:26] <fdoving> eilker: what updates?
[12:26] <fdoving> do you remember package names?
[12:26] <fdoving> or dates?
[12:26] <eilker> fdoving: all updates
[12:26] <eilker> fdoving: it was approximetly about 248 mb
[12:27] <fdoving> ah ok, you installed everything at once.
[12:27] <eilker> fdoving: yes sir
[12:27] <intelikey> Acc\Deny    a line something like  "root            (hd0,0) " Change it to "rootnoverify (hd0,0) "   in the /boot/grub/menu.lst     and see if it helps you.     (note. (hd0,0) could be anything.)
[12:28] <intelikey> Acc\Deny that's for the os in question.   not all entries.    although i'm not sure it would hurt to do that to all entries.
[12:29] <eilker> fdoving: i googled too much, but no result, may be cause of updates, may be need to upgrade to 6.10, i dont know
[12:29] <tobre> Hi all!
[12:29] <eilker> fdoving: because kernel upgraded too
[12:29] <eka> tobre!
[12:29] <tobre> Yeah.:P
[12:29] <eka> be you angels?
[12:29] <tobre> No.
[12:30] <eka> NEIGH! we are but men!
[12:30] <fdoving> eilker: shouldn't matter, should work anyway. can you pastebin the exact error message you get when you try to login to X?
[12:30] <fdoving> eka: #kubuntu-offtopic please.
[12:30] <Acc\Deny> intelikey: tried rootnoverify, no luck :(
[12:30] <eka> rawrawrawr - sorry, once again
[12:30] <eilker> i need to reboot
[12:31] <eilker> fdoving: let me reboot
[12:31] <Acc\Deny> intelikey: Should right now my /boot is a small 100 mb parition separate form the /.
[12:32] <Acc\Deny> intelikey:  should i avoid /boot in a separate partition?
[12:33] <Acc\Deny> s/should//
[12:33] <tobre> I have problem with xine. My system sound driver is oss, but in Kaffeine sound is not working. Xine settings can't choose oss. It says that can't init new audio driver oss. What's wrong? Any ideas?
[12:34] <intelikey> Acc\Deny no that's not in and of itself a bad thing.   have a look at  http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Stage2-errors.html
[12:35] <intelikey> look at #24
[12:36] <Acc\Deny> ok
[12:38] <intelikey> Acc\Deny seeing that i can't use grub on this system because of it's weeknesses you should ask someone else about it.     all i would know to do is check the file system/s and if no errors there....  ahhh you got me.
[12:38] <Acc\Deny> intelikey: ok. thanx
[12:39] <tobre> Any ideas for my problem?
[12:40] <intelikey> tobre why not alsa ?
[12:40] <eilker> fdoving: here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30961/
[12:40] <tobre> Alsa is not working.
[12:41] <tobre> In system settings I choose alsa, then I can't play test sound and all sound is not working.
[12:41] <eilker> !alsa > tobre
[12:41] <intelikey> cat /proc/asound/cards
[12:41] <Hirvinen> !alsa | tobre
[12:42] <ubotu> tobre: If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:43] <tobre> cat /proc asound/cards says Intel
[12:44] <intelikey> tobre ok    alsamixer
[12:45] <intelikey> not muted not volume set to 0 ???    master and  pcm
[12:46] <eilker> fdoving: r u there ?
[12:46] <fdoving> eilker: i'll have to go eat, i'll look at it in a few min.
[12:47] <philip_> dopez: are you still looking to fix your menus?
[12:47] <eilker> fdoving: ok sir, here i am
[12:47] <tobre> OK, I'll google a little..
[12:48] <intelikey> tobre you did look at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems  didn't you ?
[12:49] <tobre> Yes I did
[12:50] <eilker> intelikey: i am trying to play an avi file. just blue screen in kaffeine, do we need to install codecs etc ?
[12:53] <intelikey> eilker yep
[12:53] <intelikey> !codecs
[12:53] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[12:54] <scheuri> hi all
[12:55] <qbit> anyone know about Xen support in edgy? - specifically if cpu has to be one of the new ones with new virtualization features, or can it even work on older such as a Sempron 2800+?
[12:55] <scheuri> anyone knowing of a good c64-emulator? and maybe even of a site to get some games?
[12:56] <intelikey> scheuri   apt-cache search $*     where $* in this case might be 'emulator'
[12:57] <scheuri> intelikey: aye, tried that actually...not much look so far...:)
[12:57] <eilker> intelikey: thxnx
[12:57] <scheuri> intelikey: but I just might found one....vice
[01:00] <crazy_bus_>      /msg nickserv register <dsowatcher101>
[01:01] <intelikey> morning Jucato
[01:01] <crazy_bus_>  /msg nickserv link <crazy_bus> <dsowatcher101>
[01:02] <Jucato> good morning/afternoon/evening!!! :)
[01:02] <Jucato> O_O
[01:04] <crazy_bus> I found out had to add the missing items back into my menu.  Does anyone else need to now how?
[01:04] <Jucato> ~/.config/menus
[01:04] <Jucato> ??
[01:06] <markelhas> i ppl
[01:06] <markelhas> can any one help with low speed in torrent client!?
[01:07] <crazy_bus> in adept manager install the files, menu and menu-xdg.  Then type sudo update-menu.  This will take all menu items, missing and not missing and put them into the Debian folder in the menu
[01:07] <age1172> anybody knows how to mount ntfs with ntfs3g at startup?
[01:07] <age1172> anybody knows how to mount ntfs drives with ntfs3g at startup?
[01:09] <crazy_bus> age1172: Did you follow the directions from here?: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009&highlight=ntfs-3g
[01:15] <age1172> crazy_bus: i will try
[01:15] <age1172> crazy_bus:  i tried before but failed
[01:17] <crazy_bus> age1172: After installing did you follow all of the directions under, 3. Configuration?
[01:18] <age1172> crazy_bus:yes but i surely did something wrong
[01:19] <age1172> because it refused to mount any drive then?
[01:21] <crazy_bus> What does it say in /etc/fstab ?
[01:21] <elias_> Free KDE in kubuntu!
[01:21] <Jucato> O_o
[01:22] <elias_> If I am hot for a minimal desktop there is no reason to choose kubuntu over ubuntu!
[01:22] <elias_> If I want a desktop that can satisfy a super user, I would choose KDE but not castrated kubuntu!
[01:23] <elias_> Therefore, free KDE in kubuntu! Let it offer me all the things it was meant to offer!
[01:24] <abattoir> elias_: what does KDE in kubuntu *not* offer?
[01:25] <tsdgeos> .hidden sucks completely and the one that invented it should be completely killed
[01:25] <abattoir> tsdgeos: :P
[01:26] <dany21> UTFG "kubuntu directories missing" and your done ... :)
[01:29] <Arafangion> Well, I haven't been able to get Xinerama again with ATI, damn general crappiness :(
[01:29] <Dzany> Hello!Can anybody tell me is there any chance to change location for downloading with aptitude?
[01:29] <age1172> crazy_bus:i'm trying right now
[01:29] <intelikey> Dzany ?
[01:29] <abattoir> Dzany: you want to change the mirrors?
[01:29] <Dzany> yes
[01:29] <abattoir> Dzany: for the repositories?
[01:30] <Dzany> yes yes
[01:30] <Dzany> i'm in serbia
[01:30] <abattoir> Dzany: 'kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list'
[01:30] <abattoir> Dzany: you'll see lines like 'http://xx.archive.ubuntu.com...'
[01:30] <abattoir> Dzany: switch the existing two letters in xx with the ones you want
[01:31] <intelikey> if the xx. is not there you can add.
[01:32] <Dzany> where can I find mirror locations list?
[01:32] <abattoir> !mirrors
[01:32] <ubotu> Kubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php
[01:32] <abattoir> hmmm
[01:32] <dany21> is there any way to trigger a KDE-miniprogramm via a key-shortcut? (in my case i want to assign [win] +[d]  to show desktop)
[01:33] <Jucato> dany21: Ctrl+Alt+D is the default keyboard shortcut for that
[01:33] <abattoir> intelikey: uk most probably
[01:33] <Jucato> dany21: but you can set it to something different in System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[01:33] <Jucato> (if you're on Edgy)
[01:33] <intelikey> abattoir being in the US probably us.
[01:33] <dany21> wow...thx!! can it be changed?
[01:33] <dany21> oh..
[01:33] <Dzany> oki would like to do mirror from hungary
[01:34] <Dzany> because it goes fastest
[01:34] <Dzany> is it hu?
[01:34] <abattoir> Dzany: yup
[01:34] <Dzany> for xx
[01:34] <Dzany> ok .tnx a lot
[01:34] <dany21> havent found it there... whats the name for the action?
[01:34] <abattoir> intelikey: during installation, if you chose us, it would have added us.archive... but if you removed that it should point to gb
[01:35] <dany21> oh... forget it - found it,,, thx!!
[01:35] <hell666> how can I start program called Cluster manager??
[01:36] <intelikey> abattoir gb yeah.
[01:38] <wildchild> why all the sudden XP user can't get to my shared files: when he clicks on my folder to view it it says: u don't have permission to acces this file, contact network administrato
[01:38] <wildchild> r
[01:38] <Arafangion> wildchild: Perhaps he doesn't hae permission to access the files?
[01:39] <wildchild> Arafanogion: he could acces 2days before, and I didn't change anything in samab
[01:39] <wildchild> samba*
[01:39] <wildchild> :S
[01:39] <intelikey> -* Arafangion is now known as Mr.obvious *-   :)
[01:39] <Arafangion> wildchild: Then the issue is with either user/group accounts, or (more likely) incorrect umasks
[01:40] <Arafangion> intelikey: :)
[01:41] <wildchild> Arafanogion: I have set up for small workgroup..
[01:41] <wildchild> I change [cd-rom]  in to my share_name
[01:41] <wildchild> and make path, guest,
[01:42] <wildchild> than I created new user and new samba passwd
[01:42] <wildchild> and everything was working fine untill 2 days before
[01:45] <eilker> !Xshm
[01:45] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Xshm - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:45] <fdoving> eilker: you can try, to edit /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config and set allowed_users=anybody just to test.
[01:45] <Jucato> !xchm | eilker
[01:45] <ubotu> xchm: Compiled HTML Help (CHM) file viewer for X. In component universe, is optional. Version 2:1.9-3 (edgy), package size 237 kB, installed size 944 kB
[01:45] <Jucato> eilker: that one? ^^^
[01:45] <fdoving> kchmviewer - CHM viewer for KDE
[01:45] <fdoving> :)
[01:45] <Jucato> yes kchmviewer much better :P
[01:46] <Jucato> but aside from the K in the name, what does make it better? hehehe
[01:46] <fdoving> qt, maybe :)
[01:46] <Jucato> heheh
[01:46] <Dzany> I have one more question:ati driver doesen't support 16 color depth?
[01:46] <eilker> jucato: it was for caffeine:)
[01:47] <Jucato> eilker: ah
[01:47] <eilker> jucato: i got only blue screen
[01:47] <Jucato> trying to play what format?
[01:48] <eilker> jucato: now solved:) it was avi
[01:48] <Jucato> :)
[01:48] <Arafangion> wildchild: Can you access the files as the Unix user?
[01:49] <wildchild> yes
[01:50] <Dzany> Does anyone knows about ichat for windows,some russian network chat program?Is there subtitution for that?
[01:50] <eilker> fdoving: if u r free, this was the error, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30961/
[01:50] <intelikey> as guest
[01:51] <Dzany> for linux of course :)
[01:51] <intelikey> Dzany xchat used to have a free windows port
[01:51] <intelikey> oh nm
[01:51] <Jucato> intelikey: it still has, but for 30 days only :P
[01:52] <Dzany> xchat u said
[01:52] <intelikey> hehhe i don't use any windows but i still have the "free" xchat
[01:52] <Dzany> i'll try
[01:52] <Dzany> it free that ichat
[01:52] <Dzany> for windows
[01:53] <Jucato> Dzany: Konversation (installed by default) is also an IRC program
[01:53] <Dzany> it's not realy irc program
[01:53] <Jucato> Dzany: what is it?
[01:53] <Dzany> it has main window for chat,and board in other window
[01:54] <Dzany> and u can send private message
[01:54] <Jucato> hm... the only iChat that shows up in Google is Apple's iChat...
[01:54] <intelikey> sounds like an irc client to me.
[01:54] <Dzany> yes I know about that Apple's ichat
[01:54] <intelikey> Dzany have you looked at gaim ?
[01:54] <Dzany> and it's not that
[01:55] <honest> Hello all, i've just plugged a NTFS drive into my kubuntu to dump it onto this computer, under disk management it can see it but i cant find it under the file manager
[01:55] <Dzany> and that's what confuses me
[01:55] <Jucato> Dzany: um... if you have a link to the webpage of that program, maybe we could understand better..
[01:55] <honest> does anyone know how i can mount it or something?
[01:55] <Arafangion> wildchild: What do the logfiles say? (/var/log/smbd and /var/log/nmbd thingies, I assume)
[01:55] <Jucato> !ntfs | honest
[01:55] <ubotu> honest: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions  -  See also !fuse
[01:55] <Dzany> ok.in a half an our i'll be back
[01:55] <Dzany> :)
[01:55] <honest> Jucato: cheers, shall look now : )
[01:56] <intelikey> and the other half theres  :)
[01:58] <age1172> anyone can help me with ntfs3g?
[01:58] <intelikey> !ntfs3g
[01:59] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about ntfs3g - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:00] <wildchild> Arafangion: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30975/ and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30976/
[02:00] <wildchild> if ur still there
[02:00] <snoopy1alpha> hello there
[02:00] <age1172> i want to mount ntfs drives on linux using ntfs-3g
[02:01] <honest> Jucato: i want to format the drive to make it a linux paritition, is there a command for that?
[02:01] <Jucato> !ntfs-3g
[02:01] <ubotu> ntfs-3g is a linux driver which allows read/write access to NTFS partitions. It has been extensively tested but is still BETA software, so use it with caution. Dapper installation instructions http://lunapark6.com/?p=1710
[02:01] <Jucato> honest: um.. QtParted or GParted (don't know the command line equivalents)
[02:01] <snoopy1alpha> I hope someone can help me, I am trying to install Kubuntu onto an older computer and he does not load the desktop (I can see the taskbar, but he is loading since one hour and nothing is happening)
[02:01] <honest> Jucato: cheers : )
[02:02] <intelikey> honest cfdisk /dev/<disk-id> && mke2fs -cj /dev/<partition-id>
[02:03] <snoopy1alpha> could it help to create a swap-partition before booting the install-cd?
[02:03] <oslo>  bootsplash problem: http://www.cannacola.free.fr/IMG_0011.JPG
[02:03] <honest> intelikey: and that will turn it into a linux partition?
[02:04] <intelikey> that's what you asked for.
[02:04] <fdoving> snoopy1alpha: can't you just select kmenu -> system -> install ? why do you -need- the desktop?
[02:04] <snoopy1alpha> fdoving: there is no kmenu
[02:04] <honest> intelikey: lol ok soz
[02:04] <snoopy1alpha> fdoving: I see a naked taskbar
[02:04] <fdoving> snoopy1alpha: ah.. interessting. how much RAM?
[02:04] <snoopy1alpha> 128 MB
[02:04] <snoopy1alpha> thats why I asked for the swap
[02:05] <fdoving> i'm not sure.
[02:05] <intelikey> honest you change the partition type and then make a file system on the partition.
[02:05] <Dzany> I found homepage for that chat program.We r using it in our local wireless network comunity.It is: http://vnalex.tripod.com/en/index.htm
[02:05] <honest> "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `&&'"
[02:05] <honest> intelikey: any idea what that means?
[02:05] <snoopy1alpha> fdoving: I would boot a knoppix and do the partitioning manually but the question is, will the install-cd use the swap-partiton?
[02:06] <intelikey> honest yes you typed <blah>  rather than inturpreting it.
[02:06] <snoopy1alpha> fdoving: or is there a console-based install-script?
[02:06] <intelikey> honest interpret <***>
[02:06] <intelikey> if you don't know the disk-id  use   fdisk -l
[02:07] <intelikey> honest also you have to be root to do any of that.
[02:07] <intelikey> !sudo
[02:07] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:07] <fdoving> snoopy1alpha: not on that cd, you need the other cd image, the alternate, to have that.
[02:07] <intelikey> fdisk -l    only lists and exits...
[02:08] <fdoving> snoopy1alpha: not sure about the swap space.
[02:09] <snoopy1alpha> fdoving: okay thanks, then I will try the manual partitioning with knoppix, hoping kubuntu will use the swap I will create. If this fails, I will try the alternate Image
[02:09] <Dzany> I found homepage for that chat program.We r using it in our local wireless network comunity.It is: http://vnalex.tripod.com/en/index.htm . Anyone who knows about some subtitution that work on linux?
[02:09] <markc> on dapper, if I have a nvidia-glx w/ v1.0.8776 ... what kernel do I need  ?
[02:11] <fdoving> snoopy1alpha: i've checked this, and yes, it will if they are formatted as swap space, (mkswap /dev/partition).
[02:12] <snoopy1alpha> fdoving: thanks alot
[02:12] <ermak> why rmmod can't remove module?
[02:12] <ermak> sudo rmmod saa7134_alsa
[02:12] <ermak> ERROR: Module saa7134_alsa is in use
[02:12] <fdoving> ermak: it's in use.
[02:12] <ermak> what module uses it?
[02:12] <Arafangion> wildchild: Your "guest" configuration appears to be incorrect.
[02:12] <markc> or, where is there info about getting nvidia working with dapper ?
[02:12] <Arafangion> wildchild: Show your smb.conf file.
[02:12] <fdoving> !nvidia | markc
[02:12] <ubotu> markc: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[02:13] <markc> thanks
[02:13] <Arafangion> wildchild: I think there's a configuration checker in samba, use that. testparm I think it's called.
[02:13] <ermak> what module is using saa7134_alsa? how can I know?
[02:14] <fdoving> ermak: if it doesn't tell you, i don't know if you can.
[02:14] <octan> thing:x:number:name1,name2,name3 and so on
[02:14] <octan> erm
[02:14] <octan> sry
[02:15] <ermak> fdoving: and is that possible to reload module with different parameters?
[02:15] <fdoving> ermak: hmm.. not without removing it, afaik.
[02:15] <fdoving> ermak: you can try to force its removal, 'rmmod -f module'
[02:15] <fdoving> ermak: it's dangerous though.
[02:16] <ermak> fdoving: ok, i ll try this...
[02:16] <fdoving> ermak: there is also -w, 'man rmmod' for more info.
[02:17] <ermak> fdoving: now it tells: ERROR: Removing 'saa7134_alsa': Resource temporarily unavailable
[02:17] <wildchild> Arafangion: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30977/
[02:19] <markc> re: nvidia... I've followed that howto, installed restricted drivers and nvidia-glx but I am getting an API mismatch error, kernel module is v1.0.7174 but the x module is v1.0.8776 ... can anyone elaborate on  what kernel  goes with nvidia-glx 1.0.8776 (for dapper) ?
[02:20] <wildchild> Arafangion: testparm -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30978/
[02:20] <Arafangion> wildchild: Try replacing the guest = ok lines with guest ok = yes
[02:20] <ermak> fdoving: with -w it's just waiting for smth.... so the only way is to configure modprobe.d and reboot?
[02:20] <fdoving> ermak: that's probably the easiest solution.
[02:21] <markc> anyone still using dapper with a nvidia card ?
[02:22] <ermak> fdoving: by the way there was no problem with removing this module in dapper....
[02:22] <gnomefreak> markc: yes on one of my boxes why?
[02:22] <markc> gnomefreak:  what kernel  version are you using on that box ?
[02:23] <vieira_> ppl
[02:23] <gnomefreak> 2.6.15- i cant remember the last number off hand
[02:23] <vieira_> any one ? need help config torrent client
[02:23] <age1172> when i tried to mount my ntfs drives with ntfs-3g using this how to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[02:23] <markc> gnomefreak: heh... that's the bit I need
[02:23] <gnomefreak> 33 i think but dont hold me to that.
[02:23] <Dzany> what is subtitution for dc++?
[02:23] <vieira_> simple can connect in kubuntu, same config in the router work for windows
[02:24] <markc> anyone else running dapper with a nvidia card ?
[02:24] <vieira_> i'm missing somethig?!?!?!?
[02:24] <age1172> and tried the mount -a command it gave me the following errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30974/
[02:24] <age1172> any ideas ?
[02:25] <vieira_> is any problem with kubuntu and tour linksys?
[02:25] <vieira_> *router
[02:25] <gnomefreak> markc: either way unless your kernel and l-r-m dont match its not gonna matter about version of kernel
[02:26] <honest> I've just changed the partition to an ext3
[02:26] <vieira_> no ideias?!
[02:26] <honest> but under media it's just showing as a folder and not a drive and i can't use it as a drive
[02:27] <age1172> i am on edgy
[02:27] <Arafangion> wildchild: Try replacing the guest = ok lines with guest ok = yes
[02:27] <age1172> when i tried to mount my ntfs drives with ntfs-3g using this how to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[02:27] <thuan> when I try to install kubuntu edgy I can continue after select a root partition
[02:27] <thuan> can't
[02:27] <vieira_> :(
[02:27] <age1172> when i tried to mount my ntfs drives with ntfs-3g using this how to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009
[02:28] <gnomefreak> age1172: ntfs-3g is not supported by ubuntu nor is it safe
[02:28] <wildchild> Arafangion: did it but it's still the same not about accesing the files :S
[02:28] <markc> gnomefreak: I have a fresh dapper installation... I've added univers/multiverse updated and upgraded but for some reason the  nvidia-glx package is a mismatch to whatever kernel module I have... I'm just trying to determine what kernel I need to match up with the current nvidia-glx package (if anyone knows).. perhaps  my local repo is out of date or something
[02:28] <wildchild> Arafangion: I did it*
[02:28] <age1172> i am on kubuntu edgy
[02:28] <Arafangion> wildchild: So, not working?
[02:29] <age1172> i tried the mount -a command it gave me the following errors http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30974/
[02:29] <wildchild> Arafangion: it's not working
[02:29] <gnomefreak> markc: did you add any unofficial repos for beryl or nvidia 9xxx series drivers
[02:29] <Arafangion> wildchild: There's something wrong with the guest account.
[02:29] <wildchild> hm
[02:29] <markc> gnomefreak: not yet, fesh install
[02:29] <gnomefreak> age1172: there is no support here for ntfs-3g try the forums
[02:29] <Arafangion> wildchild: Guest parameter, rather.
[02:29] <gnomefreak> markc: what version is it asking for?
[02:29] <wildchild> Arafangion: what do u suggest :P
[02:30] <age1172> then what can i do to have full access to ntfs drives
[02:30] <gnomefreak> age1172: ubuntu doesnt support writing to ntfs because its unsafe and very dangerous
[02:30] <markc> gnomefreak: kernel v is 1.0.7174 and X v is 1.0.8776
[02:30] <Arafangion> wildchild: It's been a long time since I've had to deal with this ;)  Jut a moment.
[02:31] <eka> OCTAN!
[02:31] <wildchild> Arafangion: np I have time :)
[02:31] <octan> EKA
[02:31] <Arafangion> wildchild: You haven't specified a guest user.
[02:31] <gnomefreak> markc: make sure you are up-to-date. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:31] <eka> TO CITY HALL WE RIDE!
[02:31] <eka> GRAB YOUR AXE!
[02:31] <thuan> Even after select a partition as / and one as swap I can't continue kubuntu setup say I haven't selected a / partion yet, any idea? Kubuntu 6.10
[02:31] <markc> gnomefreak: done that several  times but  I'll  do it again
[02:31] <gnomefreak> eka: please join #kubuntu-offtopic to continue that
[02:32] <oslo> bootsplash problem: http://www.cannacola.free.fr/IMG_0011.JPG only a boot, not at shutdown ...
[02:32] <eka> gaaahhhh damnit.
[02:32] <Arafangion> wildchild: Actually, apparently it's got a default "nobody".
[02:32] <gnomefreak> markc: do you have linux-restricted-modules for your kernel i nstalled and what is the version
[02:32] <wildchild> hm
[02:32] <wildchild> Arafangion:  but I made user
[02:32] <wildchild> just didn't put it in smb.conf
[02:32] <wildchild> couse there I made it public
[02:33] <wildchild> but actually only "new" that I've created it and make him smb pass can acces
[02:33] <Arafangion> wildchild: You haven't got a security = user either.
[02:33] <wildchild> :S
[02:33] <markc> gnomefreak:  got 2.6.15-23-386 and 2.6.15-23-386, currently trying the  23 one
[02:33] <gnomefreak> markc: make sure they match the kernel you are booted to
[02:33] <markc> gnomefreak:  got 2.6.15-23-386 and 2.6.15-27-386, currently trying the  23 one
[02:33] <gnomefreak> markc: i know 23 is not the latest kernel
[02:34] <markc> gnomefreak:  I was just booted on the 27 one with the same result, hence trying the 23 one
[02:34] <wildchild> Arafangion: so I must add: security = user
[02:35] <gnomefreak> markc: what version of linux-restricted-modules do you have installed?
[02:35] <markc> gnomefreak:  I'll try apt-get install linux-686 ... and see what happens
[02:35] <gnomefreak> thats what you need for nvidia to work.
[02:35] <markc> gnomefreak:  I have  both the 23 and 27  restricted packjages onboard
[02:35] <honest> I've changed an NTFS drive into EXT3 but under media it doesnt show the drive, i did this using QTparted
[02:36] <gnomefreak> markc: boot your latest kernel. than run sudo aptitude install nvidia-glx
[02:36] <gnomefreak> markc: it should fix it for you
[02:36] <Arafangion> wildchild: I generally start with the minimum set of "stuff", testparm it, make sure that it's /perfect/, then add the next bit.
[02:37] <honest> i can only think it's not mounted or something
[02:37] <Arafangion> wildchild: And generally, it's often a good idea to be explicit.  Don't trust defaults ;)
[02:37] <wildchild> Arafangion: u saw my testparm
[02:38] <markc> gnomefreak: installing "linux-686" is getting me 2.6.15-27-686 and the equiv restricted module (I have the same 386 packages anyway)
[02:38] <Arafangion> wildchild: Yeah, it's not good.
[02:38] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i set up fix ip for my machine in a subnetwork?
[02:39] <markc> rebooting
[02:39] <MetaMorfoziS> in lan, or how it named
[02:39] <gnomefreak> markc: use the command i gave you on whatever kernel you want it will install the right packages. if you check the version of nvidia-kernel im betting its not matching the drivers
[02:40] <wildchild> after I add security: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/30981/
[02:40] <gnomefreak> brb
[02:40] <wildchild> Arafangion
[02:40] <wildchild> 2 lines above:
[02:42] <markc> gnomefreak: I think I might have adud dapper install anyway... I don't get a login prompt, it goes strsight to a root shell (I've installed dapper dozens of times, never had this kind of trouble before)
[02:43] <markc> gnomefreak: I think I might have adud dapper install anyway... I don't get a login prompt, it goes strsight to a root shell (I've installed dapper dozens of times, never had this kind of trouble before)
[02:43] <Arafangion> wildchild: As it says, it says that the security option is a global option, but you've placed it in the services.
[02:43] <wildchild> yes
[02:43] <markc> woops, wrong keyboard
[02:43] <Arafangion> wildchild: Take out the 3 or so globals, and just mention it once before you mention any of the shares.
[02:44] <snoopy1alpha> will a bootable cd-iso work if I burn it onto a dvd ?
[02:45] <snoopy1alpha> ah damn, just forget my question
[02:45] <honest> lol.. how the hell do i mount this drive?
[02:45] <snoopy1alpha> the computer I want to boot it on does not have a dvd drive
[02:45] <wildchild> Arafangion: and with 3 or so globals u mean: passdb backend = tdbsam
[02:46] <Arafangion> wildchild: No, that was actually a typo (I'm tireD!), I meant the fact that you'd mentioned the security thingy three times, in the shares, rather than once at the top.
[02:46] <markc> bah... I am using  kernel 2.6.15-27-686 w/ matching restricted package and I  still get an  API mismatch for  nvidia-glx...  I'll have to install archlinux or gentoo or something
[02:46] <Arafangion> wildchild: You can't pretend that it's teh same as a windows system, per-share security is rather difficult on linux.
[02:47] <wildchild> Arafangion: I know it's difficult
[02:47] <wildchild> Arafangion: why do u mean I am bugging ppl around :P
[02:48] <Arafangion> wildchild: :)
[02:48] <Bubba_Gump> amaroK - compatible with flac ?
[02:48] <eka> ugh wtfomgbqq this tea is so strong and gross
[02:48] <wildchild> Arafangion: security is global! ?
[02:48] <Arafangion> eka: Which tea?
[02:48] <Arafangion> wildchild: YES
[02:48] <wildchild> :>
[02:48] <eka> it's a white/green mix
[02:48] <wildchild> damn I a, slow
[02:48] <Bubba_Gump> eka: brew a fresh cup
[02:49] <eka> this is fresh!
[02:49] <eka> has no sugar in it though
[02:49] <Bubba_Gump> eka: :D
[02:49] <eka> but sugar in green tea is bleh
[02:49] <Bubba_Gump> eka: as an Englishman i take my tea very seriously :D
[02:49] <eka> haha
[02:49] <eka> ;)
[02:49] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[02:49] <eka> what kind of tea do you suggest for a newcomer like me?
[02:50] <Arafangion> eka: White/green? What the heck is a "white" tea?
[02:50] <eka> no clue! but that's what it said on the label
[02:50] <Bubba_Gump> eka: a nice blended tea
[02:50] <Arafangion> eka: Some green teas are nice with a touch of honey, imho.
[02:50] <Bubba_Gump> eka: maybe even a chai :)
[02:50] <Dzany> Do u englishmans realy put milk in ur tea? lol
[02:50] <eka> a chai?
[02:50] <Arafangion> eka: My favorite tea is currently Black Madura - it's a nice sweet "Boring" tea.
[02:51] <Bubba_Gump> Dzany: you better believe :D
[02:51] <Bubba_Gump> eka: aye, a chai
[02:51] <eka> chai.
[02:51] <Arafangion> eka: Think of an indian curry, then you'll realise what a chai must be :)
[02:51] <eka> i must aqquire chai!
[02:51] <Dzany> which tea do u drink with milk?
[02:51] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[02:51] <Arafangion> Dzany: Mostly it's the black ones.
[02:51] <eka> chai is with milk i think
[02:51] <Bubba_Gump> Dzany: black tea
[02:51] <eka> right?
[02:51] <Bubba_Gump> eka: normally honey
[02:51] <eka> oh, oh
[02:51] <Arafangion> eka: Traditionally yes, infact the milk is slightly dehydrated as well.
[02:51] <Dzany> i tried it with chamomilae
[02:52] <Dzany> lol
[02:52] <Arafangion> eka: But I quite like it without milk. (Dairy allergy :( )
[02:52] <Bubba_Gump> http://www.odie.org/chai/whatisit.html#
[02:52] <eka> i can't believe i made this channel into a tea oriented channel
[02:52] <Dzany> :D
[02:52] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[02:52] <eka> hmmm
[02:52] <eka> so chai, good with honey?
[02:52] <daghenning> hey. when I play dvds in kaffeine it flickers in full screen mode. what can I do?
[02:52] <Arafangion> eka: Yes.
[02:53] <Bubba_Gump> eka: yeah :)
[02:53] <eka> mmk mmk
[02:53] <eka> what other kinds of teas are there?
[02:53] <Arafangion> eka: And there's just as many chai's as there are teas :)
[02:53] <Dzany> i like tea with honey lemon in it
[02:53] <Bubba_Gump> eka: loadsa teas
[02:53] <Dzany> *honey and lemon
[02:53] <eka> i want a complete list ;)
[02:53] <Arafangion> eka: Impossible.
[02:53] <eka> lamezors.
[02:53] <Bubba_Gump> eka: try peppermint ;)
[02:53] <Arafangion> eka: The teashop I go to has a long list that would fit on several pages, I'm sure.
[02:54] <eka> peppermint?
[02:54] <eka> that sounds gross
[02:54] <eka> mint in a drink, no dice!
[02:54] <h3sp4wn> Arafangion: try a different video output ? (be in the xine options) - If you are using onboard video there may be nothing you can do
[02:54] <Bubba_Gump> eka: it's a very nice tea
[02:54] <Arafangion> eka: My sister likes "Autumn Spice".
[02:54] <markc> in my sources.list I have dapper main restricted universe and multiverse, and each of those for dapper dapper-backports dapper-updates dapper-security ... am I missing something ?
[02:54] <eka> ara, i'm not a chick x.x
[02:54] <Arafangion> h3sp4wn: Not me :)
[02:54] <h3sp4wn> daghenning: ^^
[02:54] <Dzany> you have very strange names of tea
[02:54] <Arafangion> Dzany: We have very strange teas :)
[02:55] <eka> bubba
[02:55] <Dzany> we too :)
[02:55] <eka> what kind are you going to make?
[02:55] <Dzany> but they have use
[02:55] <Arafangion> Dzany: One of the teas I've drunk had ginger and orange rind in it :)
[02:55] <Dzany> in medicine
[02:55] <Dzany> most
[02:55] <h3sp4wn> Arafangion: Sorry just woke up (not enough caffeine yet) - java lava works best
[02:55] <Dzany> and strange ideas of tea
[02:55] <Dzany> :D
[02:55] <eka> coffee, so gross, wow
[02:56] <Bubba_Gump> eka: i've some nice black tea, and i'll put a hint of milk in, and two sugars :)
[02:56] <Arafangion> eka: A _good_ coffee is actually very nice.
[02:56] <eka> nice nice
[02:56] <Bubba_Gump> eka: and biscuits for dunking :D
[02:56] <Arafangion> eka: But... it's hard to get it _good_.
[02:56] <Dzany> of course
[02:56] <eka> haha you englishmen are hardcore when it comes to tea
[02:56] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[02:56] <Dzany> lol
[02:57] <eka> australian eh?
[02:57] <Dzany> I'm Serbian
[02:57] <Dzany> and i prefer it all  lol
[02:57] <eka> well then lets put anotha shrimp on the barb-e ;o
[02:57] <eka> aye?
[02:57] <eka> duuuude - did president push ban vegemite from the US?
[02:57] <Arafangion> eka: Shrimp? Pah.
[02:58] <Dzany> Have u been to Exit.I know that a lot of Englishmans were here
[02:58] <eka> i heard a rumor.
[02:58] <Arafangion> eka: We call them PRAWNS
[02:58] <eka> haha
[02:58] <eka> really?
[02:58] <eka> nice, nice
[02:58] <Arafangion> eka: And yeah, they're great on the barbie :)
[02:58] <vyoman> kubuntu update from dapper to edgy failed, hangs on startup screen, using the konsole apt-get I get a list of packages not installed
[02:59] <Arafangion> eka: Though, most aussies are remarkably fussy with them, almost none even realise that the shell is edible.
[02:59] <eka> rofl
[02:59] <vyoman> any idea what to do next, i thought upgrading would be easy
[02:59] <markc> heh, I have never had a barbecued prawn (I'm an aussie too)
[02:59] <eka> crazy, ara
[02:59] <eka> you eat the whole shell o.o?
[03:00] <Arafangion> eka: The japanese do.
[03:00] <eka> you're not japanese ;D
[03:01] <Arafangion> eka: Yes, if it's just my family around, I'll eat the whole thing - legs are my favorite.
[03:01] <MetaMorfoziS> in lan, or how it named
[03:01] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i set up fix ip for my machine in a subnetwork?
[03:01] <Bubba_Gump> vyoman: do you boot into KDE GUI?
[03:01] <Arafangion> eka: Heads aren't too bad, though.
[03:02] <eka> . . .
[03:02] <eka> with the brains and everything?
[03:02] <Arafangion> eka: In japan, however, the heads are considered the best part.
[03:02] <Arafangion> Yeah, whole :)
[03:02] <eka> ewww
[03:02] <Bubba_Gump> shrimp is a really food
[03:02] <tha1> hey guys
[03:02] <fdoving> #kubuntu-offtopic
[03:02] <Bubba_Gump> the whole shrimp :P
[03:02] <Arafangion> Bubba_Gump: Do they really eat the raw, though?
[03:03] <Bubba_Gump> Arafangion: the raw ?
[03:03] <tha1> kl
[03:03] <eka> he's speakin aussie on us ;D!
[03:03] <Arafangion> Bubba_Gump: Them :)
[03:03] <Arafangion> eka: NanoImnot!
[03:03] <Bubba_Gump> heh :D
[03:03] <eka> ;)
[03:04] <Dzany> ah,lucky u,when u can travel and see all that noncens :D
[03:04] <vyoman> yes ideally we boot into the GUI
[03:04] <tha1> sorry, i didn't mean to write that
[03:04] <Arafangion> Dzany: I don't travel :(
[03:04] <Bubba_Gump> vyoman: does your computer boot into the GUI at the moment?
[03:04] <eka> bubba, how's the tea?
[03:04] <Dzany> why,when u can??
[03:04] <vyoman> no it hangs on the blue screen
[03:04] <tha1>  i just need help to swetup my wireless card
[03:04] <Bubba_Gump> eka: it's a really nice cup :)
[03:04] <vyoman> the screen before the login
[03:05] <tha1> can you guys help me out?
[03:05] <snoopy1alpha> bluescreen in linux?
[03:05] <Arafangion> Dzany: Just haven't had the opportunity.
[03:05] <vyoman> blue or grey or purple screen
[03:05] <Bubba_Gump> vyoman: have you the option for downloading the edgy live cd?
[03:05] <vyoman> no
[03:05] <Bubba_Gump> snoopy1alpha: the screen before the password bit
[03:05] <markc> tha1: do you know what kind of chipset is in the wireless device ?
[03:05] <snoopy1alpha> I know ;-)
[03:05] <Bubba_Gump> :P
[03:06] <vyoman> i need to install the missing packages the upgrade failed to install X
[03:06] <Bubba_Gump> vyoman: have you ran apt-get upgrade ?
[03:06] <tha1>  i have a SpeedTouch 121g wireless USB card
[03:06] <tha1> i suppose i'm gonna need ndiswrapper
[03:06] <Bubba_Gump> !wifi
[03:06] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[03:06] <vyoman> running apt-get dist-update -f doesn't do anything they same list of packages not installed is listed
[03:06] <markc> tha1: it might use the  ra2570  module, worth a try
[03:07] <vyoman> i am now running apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:08] <vyoman> and the packages are being installed, what is wrong with apt-get dist-upgrade?
[03:08] <markc> tha1: try "modprobe zd1201"
[03:08] <Bubba_Gump> vyoman: my box went down after sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:08] <Bubba_Gump> vyoman: would only load grub
[03:09] <vyoman> gosh - i didn't know there are problems coming from dapper to edgy
[03:09] <Bubba_Gump> vyoman: i had a live disc handy but i'm checking your problem out :)
[03:09] <tha1> markc: it says this:
[03:09] <tha1> FATAL: Error inserting zd1201 (/lib/modules/2.6.17-10-generic/kernel/drivers/usb/net/zd1201.ko): Operation not permitted
[03:09] <markc> tha1: "sudo modprobe zd1201"
[03:10] <vyoman> i still get a list of packages not being updated , mostly phython stuff
[03:10] <tha1> markc: nothing appeared O_o
[03:10] <vyoman> all the rest is installed now after using sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop python-qt3 python-kde3 ubuntu-minimal
[03:11] <vyoman> this should not happend (cry!!!)
[03:11] <markc> tha1: then ifconfig -a, take note of devices, plug in usb dongle, then ifconfig -a... and see if there is  an extra net device
[03:11] <mnp> has anyone experience with a t43p and hibernate?
[03:13] <vyoman> any APT-GET wizard know how to force package install, the -f option doesn't do anything...
[03:13] <eka> YOU BROKE THE RULES
[03:14] <markc> vyoman:  sudo apt-get install --reinstall package ?
[03:14] <eka> NOW I PULL OUT ALL YOUR PUBIC HAAAAAAAIR
[03:14] <tha1> markc: no,there is no extra device
[03:14] <tha1> i can't seem to install ndiswrapper through Adept
[03:15] <markc> tha1: sudo tail -f /var/log/messages (and pull out and plug back in the usb dongle)
[03:15] <apokryphos> eka: language please :)
[03:15] <tha1> he doesn't find the package, and doesn't give me the option to review and/or change the repos
[03:15] <eka> no pubic x.x?
[03:15] <apokryphos> there's #kubuntu-offtopic for all other related chat
[03:15] <eka> roger.
[03:16] <Arafangion> apokryphos: Actually, I think that some topics are offtopic even in there.
[03:16] <apokryphos> well, of course. But for general chatter, non-support related, we have that channel.
[03:17] <apokryphos> That doesn't mean profanity (or similar bad language) is generally accepted in there, like most *ubuntu* channels
[03:17] <Dzany> now problem: I have runed that ichat thru wine,and now,smiles r very slow,and text on tabs is like chinesse... Any solution?
[03:17] <tha1> markc: he detects the USB dongle being connected and disconnected
[03:17] <Arafangion> apokryphos: Haha :)
[03:17] <Arafangion> apokryphos: I'm a Debian guy myself.
[03:17] <markc> tha1: does "sudo iwconfig" show anything when it's plugged in ?
[03:18] <tha1> sudol iwconfig
[03:18] <eka> i heard gentoo was the win
[03:18] <apokryphos> Arafangion: ah, well welcome; things are a little different here ;-)
[03:18] <Arafangion> apokryphos: I've noticed :( *sniff*
[03:18] <tha1> nop, he doesn't show me any wireless extensions
[03:18] <Arafangion> Yikes, 1am again!  G'night.
[03:19] <eka> it's 6:19am here
[03:19] <eka> x.x
[03:19] <markc> tha1: I've got a repotec (ralink) usb wireless dongle and it only needs the zd1201 kernel module to be loaded... I've never used ndiswrapper, can't help you with that
[03:20] <Arafangion> apokryphos: I just wish that the Debian guys realised that a _desktop_ has different needs :)
[03:20] <Dzany> how can I setup wine?
[03:20] <Arafangion> Dzany: winecfg
[03:20] <tha1> can someone help me with the Adept part?
[03:20] <markc> tha1: you'll probably have to read that docs/howto link someone posted
[03:20] <snoopy1alpha> how do I disable the suspend2ram-feature when closing the notebook-lid?
[03:21] <snoopy1alpha> I cand rewake it whenever I did it
[03:21] <snoopy1alpha> does . . .
[03:21] <Arafangion> snoopy1alpha: iBook?
[03:22] <snoopy1alpha> Arafangion: dell latitude c400
[03:22] <snoopy1alpha> there is a config-file somewhere (I forgot where) but there you can switch it off, but it did not seem to work
[03:22] <markc> I've got a dell 640m and I'd also like to know how to prevent suspend too ... same problem,    doesn't wake up properly
[03:24] <xsacha> im loving this 3d plugin: http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/3103/3dew3.png      <-- cant wait till he gives windows a depth ;)
[03:25] <xsacha> running beryl without aiglx or Xgl with an ati card ;)
[03:25] <honest> is there a problem with edgy and mounting drives?
[03:25] <markc> xsacha: nice one :) (I can't even get X up and running)
[03:26] <xsacha> :(
[03:26] <markc> geesus, even windows won't install on this system (supposed to be a dual boot box).. not my night
[03:27] <daghenning> hey. how can I get Totem to play wmv files?
[03:28] <snoopy1alpha> markc: as I saidf there is a config-file in /etc/ but there went something wrong
[03:29] <snoopy1alpha> markc: but unfortunately I forgot the location
[03:30] <markc> I give up... time for bed, see ya's
[03:34] <sickd> hello
[03:34] <sickd> can i ask?
[03:34] <mzli> type your problem
[03:35] <sickd> i have updated to edgy from dapper
[03:35] <sickd> but i have no kdm login
[03:35] <sickd> x starts
[03:35] <sickd> but i don't see the kdm login
[03:35] <sickd> :S
[03:35] <mzli> that happpens.
[03:35] <mzli> the easiest way is reinstall.
[03:35] <sickd> i've tried dpkg-reconfigure xorg && dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[03:36] <sickd> kdm won't start
[03:36] <sickd> :S
[03:36] <sickd> but
[03:36] <sickd> can't
[03:36] <sickd> y see de X mouse pointer
[03:36] <sickd> na'
[03:36] <sickd> i supposed that kubuntu isn't windows
[03:36] <sickd> and does need to reinstall
[03:36] <sickd> :B
[03:37] <Dzany> Does anyone knows what r default horisontal and vertical refresh rates for 60 Hz? It makes me problem when I install flgrx
[03:41] <Dzany> I need it to write it to xorg.conf
[03:41] <Fun> .
[03:41] <sickd> Dzany: try Xorg -configure
[03:41] <sickd> :B
[03:41] <sickd> but backup your old xorg.config
[03:41] <Dzany> ok tnx
[03:42] <sickd> or
[03:42] <sickd> dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[03:42] <Dzany> what's difrerence?
[03:43] <Dzany> between that 2 commands?
[03:43] <ubuntu> !GRUB
[03:43] <ubotu> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[03:43] <sickd> good
[03:43] <sickd> :D
[03:43] <sickd> was the glx module
[03:43] <sickd> in conflict with fgl
[03:43] <sickd> xD
[03:43] <sickd> and X starts at vty7
[03:43] <sickd> :D
[03:44] <sickd> nice
[03:44] <sickd> :D
[03:45] <suso> hola
[03:45] <sickd> hola suso
[03:45] <sickd> :B
[03:47] <eka> guten morgen, suso!
[03:49] <ubuntu_> !qtparted
[03:49] <ubotu> qtparted: A parted frontend using QT. In component main, is optional. Version 0.4.5-2ubuntu11 (edgy), package size 202 kB, installed size 716 kB
[03:52] <otaku-san> How would I go about completely nuking swiftfox from my box?
[03:53] <Dzany> when I try Xorg -configure it tells me "caught signal 11.Aborting"  What is it?
[03:53] <Bubba_Gump> otaku-san: adept will be able to remove switfox
[03:54] <Bubba_Gump> otaku-san: or, if installed with Automatix, use Automatix to uninstall
[03:55] <otaku-san> Bubba_Gump: if I can remember correctly I compiled swiftfox...and dumb me forgot a command that would make uninstalling a bit easier...
[03:56] <roger> list
[03:56] <otaku-san> Bubba_Gump: but there is a way to uninstall it...just not as easy.  You don't happen to know do you?
[03:56] <Bubba_Gump> otaku-san: i'm going to have to learn the Linux commands, at the moment I use the GUI :)
[03:56] <Bubba_Gump> otaku-san: If Swiftfox was compiled then probably not :(
[03:57] <Bubba_Gump> otaku-san: do tell me if you manage to find a way though :)
[03:57] <tomas_> ./list
[03:57] <Dzany> Does anyone knows what is signal 11 error when I try to run Xorg -configure?
[03:58] <sickd> :S
[03:58] <sickd> Dzany: try dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[03:58] <Dzany> than nothing happends
[03:58] <sickd> if you use edgy try other vty's
[03:58] <sickd> i have x on vty7
[03:58] <sickd> :S
[03:58] <Dzany> it is kubuntu 6.10
[03:58] <otaku-san> Bubba_Gump: hehehe ya GUIs are nice.  Oh and there is a way...just not a very easy way.  You have to basically hunt down and destroy each little thing...tho' it keeps pretty compact
[03:59] <nagyv> is there any way to reverse an mo file to a po/pot file?
[03:59] <otaku-san> Bubba_Gump: you won't have little files here and there haunting you! ;)
[03:59] <Bubba_Gump> hah! :D
[04:01] <Fir3FoxXx> hello
[04:01] <nuxil_> lhi
[04:02] <Fir3FoxXx> can i use the "normal" debian-sources in the sources.list?
[04:02] <otaku-san> uhhhggg do they have firefox 2 for installing in dapper or do we have to upgrade?
[04:02] <apokryphos> Fir3FoxXx: no, Ubuntu's packages are frequently very different to Debian's, and you'll probably muck up your package management
[04:02] <nuxil> Fir3FoxXx no
[04:03] <nuxil> Fir3FoxXx, what do you want that anyway
[04:03] <gnomefreak> !firefox | otaku-san
[04:03] <ubotu> otaku-san: firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[04:04] <nuxil> debians sources is like 2-3 versions older that ubuntus :P
[04:04] <gnomefreak> otaku-san: use that guide to install ff2 on dapper. it takes all of 3 minutes :)
[04:04] <Fir3FoxXx> e.g. i want to install dhcpcd
[04:04] <nuxil> so? whats stopping you
[04:04] <nuxil> ununtu has that
[04:04] <gnomefreak> debain uses different versioning than ubuntu and thats where most of the problems stem from
[04:04] <Fir3FoxXx> it isnt available at current time...
[04:05] <Fir3FoxXx> maybe i have to find some ubuntu sources^
[04:05] <Fir3FoxXx> where can i find them?
[04:05] <gnomefreak> Fir3FoxXx: its in the universe repo
[04:05] <otaku-san> gnomefreak: I'm so lazy...I could of done that... oh well thanks man!  Yes know I will be stylin and profilin
[04:05] <nuxil> Fir3FoxXx, ^^^listen to gnomefreak
[04:05] <Dzany> I found this answer to my question:"Yep, xorg was broken today in release 10 and then fixed later in release 12.". How can i easily :)  upgrade X to unstable version?
[04:06] <gnomefreak> otaku-san: i gave up on ff2.0 a long time ago :)
[04:06] <otaku-san> gnomefreak: why?
[04:06] <Fir3FoxXx> sry nuxil i'm german.... i can speak english, but i can't understand his sentence^
[04:06] <gnomefreak> otaku-san: there were alot of issues with it in edgy in the begining. plus i dont think ive ever used a stable version of ff
[04:07] <gnomefreak> Fir3FoxXx: the universe repository has dhcpcd in it
[04:07] <Fir3FoxXx> i try...
[04:07] <nuxil> Fir3FoxXx ?
[04:07] <gnomefreak> !universe | Fir3FoxXx
[04:07] <ubotu> Fir3FoxXx: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:07] <nuxil> deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe
[04:07] <Fir3FoxXx> i have installed kubuntu 1 hour ago^^
[04:07] <nuxil> deb http://ger.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe pherhaps
[04:07] <gnomefreak> nuxil: de
[04:08] <nuxil> oki :)
[04:08] <nuxil> me norwegian
[04:08] <gnomefreak> :)
[04:08] <nuxil> :)
[04:08] <otaku-san> gnomefreak: I used swiftfox 2.0 (which is basically firefox 2.0) and it was buggy...wonder if they'll have the same issues...\
[04:08] <Fir3FoxXx> http://packages.kubuntu.de/apt.php << check all checkboxen on this source-generation-page?
[04:08] <gnomefreak> nuxil: you dont even need a country code
[04:08] <Fir3FoxXx> sry: checkboxes
[04:08] <nuxil> i know..
[04:08] <nuxil> gnomefreak, but its usaly faster to dl localy form your contru
[04:08] <gnomefreak> otaku-san: the biggest issue with ff2 is with flash atm
[04:09] <gnomefreak> nuxil: not a differnece for me. without a CC it will route you to the closest servers. like in us it routes you to uk
[04:09] <gnomefreak> oir gb
[04:09] <gnomefreak> or gb
[04:09] <dhuv> hello all
[04:09] <nuxil> well its fater for me to spesify no
[04:10] <nuxil> i dl it from a close by university
[04:10] <otaku-san> gnomefreak: ya...same with swiftfox...I have ff 1.5 decked out with flash beta 9 and it works like a charm...so I guess I won't break what ain't broken.
[04:10] <dhuv> I have a laptop with a minipci ipw2100 card. If I start kubuntu with it started it  complains that it cannot start eth1
[04:10] <nuxil> so its way faster.. usaly between about 300-500 KB/sec
[04:10] <gnomefreak> otaku-san: i have ff3 with flash9 but ive never had an issue with flash and ff
[04:10] <dhuv> I can only boot properly when I take the card out
[04:11] <otaku-san> gnomefreak: But once they have that little issue figured out..which should be soon I'll check into it.
[04:11] <otaku-san> gnomefreak: 3?  Thru Swiftfox right?
[04:11] <gnomefreak> otaku-san: firefox 3.0 not swiftfox
[04:12] <otaku-san> gnomefreak: how...please do tell
[04:12] <gautam> hi guys
[04:12] <gnomefreak> otaku-san: i run everything that unstable on this pc
[04:12] <gautam> got a small query
[04:12] <gautam> will ubuntu packages work on lubuntu?
[04:12] <gnomefreak> otaku-san: ff3 is in alpha 1 stage
[04:12] <gautam> kubuntu*
[04:12] <gnomefreak> gautam: what is lubuntu?
[04:12] <gnomefreak> oh yes
[04:12] <gnomefreak> gautam: yes
[04:12] <gautam> gnomefreak: thanks man
[04:12] <gnomefreak> gautam: same repos
[04:13] <gautam> i dont wana download all again
[04:13] <gautam> i did try
[04:13] <gautam> was having issues with ssl
[04:13] <otaku-san> gnomefreak: so lucky...I have only one box...and I have to have mostly stable stuff on it...so no ff3 alpha 1 for me....
[04:13] <gautam> ff3?
[04:13] <gautam> is that out?
[04:13] <gnomefreak> gautam: i have ubuntu kubuntu xubuntu fluxbox E17 openbox on this pc
[04:13] <gautam> i though ff2 was new
[04:13] <gnomefreak> gautam: no
[04:13] <gnomefreak> ff2 ius newest
[04:14] <gautam> k
[04:14] <otaku-san> gautam: it's in super alpha mode...not even beta...so it's still in the test stages...very unstable
[04:14] <snoopy1alpha> windows is strange
[04:14] <gautam> kool will try installing files again
[04:14] <gautam> otaku-san:  ff2 works ok
[04:14] <gautam> even opera rocks
[04:14] <gautam> ;)
[04:15] <snoopy1alpha> I burned the kubuntu-alternate image with a free burning tool
[04:15] <snoopy1alpha> the tool did not seem to work properly
[04:15] <gautam> snoopy1alpha:  kool good luck man
[04:15] <snoopy1alpha> the whole system crached
[04:15] <gautam> dang ;(
[04:15] <snoopy1alpha> but cd cd seems to be okay
[04:15] <gautam> did u do a md5sum test?
[04:15] <gautam> or ran a media test?
[04:15] <gnomefreak> snoopy1alpha: make sure you burnt it as slow as possible like 2x if you can
[04:16] <snoopy1alpha> I tested the cd
[04:16] <snoopy1alpha> and the tool, says it is valid
[04:16] <gautam> yes slower the better ;)
[04:16] <gnomefreak> snoopy1alpha: did you burn it as a cd image
[04:16] <gautam> snoopy1alpha:  so system did not install?
[04:16] <gautam> what problem ur getting?
[04:17] <snoopy1alpha> no there are no problems here, just wanted to tell you, about this strange thing ;-)
[04:17] <gautam> haha
[04:17] <gnomefreak> ph
[04:17] <gnomefreak> oh
[04:17] <gautam> ok thanks
[04:17] <Ampa> What is gam_server?
[04:17] <gautam> Ampa: u mean gaim_server?
[04:17] <otaku-san> gautam: I use opera too.  It's super nice...tho' I have to put flash 9 on it...and I'm to lazy to do that now! ;)
[04:17] <snoopy1alpha> but if you wanna solve a problem, tell me how I teach my kubuntu not to suspend to ram when I close my notebook-lid#
[04:18] <dhuv> does anybody have their ipw2100 card working in kubuntu?
 No idea :/ is just that it uses 25% of the CPU.
[04:20] <gautam> Ampa: use the ps command or top to see the name?
[04:21] <gautam> yep yep i see it too
[04:21] <gautam> its a gamin module
[04:22] <gautam> Ampa:  /usr/lib/gamin/gam_server
[04:22] <gautam> thats the full path
[04:22] <uwo> hi all! does n1 know how to get rid of the toolbar handles?
[04:22] <Ampa> gautam: when I use top and ps I  see gam_server using alot of cpu power.
[04:23] <gautam> Ampa:  i think it is for gaim
[04:23] <gautam> if u chat a lot on gaim
[04:23] <gautam> let me see if i can find more info
[04:24] <Ampa> nope, dont have gaim at all.
[04:26] <dhuv> hello all
[04:26] <gautam> it says it is safe to turn it off on boot
[04:26] <gautam> i just googled
[04:26] <gautam> linuxuqestions.org has some questions on it
[04:26] <dhuv> with the ipw2100 minipci card plugged in, I cannot boot up, I get a message saying ipw2200 eth1: failed to start the card
[04:27] <gautam> like i said it is gamin module
[04:27] <dhuv> are there any suggestions?
[04:28] <Hawkwind> gamin has nothing to do with gaim at all
[04:29] <gautam> Hawkwind: yep i found that out
[04:29] <gautam> sorry my mistake
[04:29] <gautam> i did correct myself later
[04:30] <Hawkwind> gamin is the replacement of fam, which isn't much better than fam was IMO
[04:30] <gautam> ok thanks
[04:30] <ehird> when building a package i get
[04:30] <ehird> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[04:30] <ehird> what path would that be? :)
[04:31] <Hawkwind> ehird: Have you installed build-essential ?
[04:31] <ehird> Hawkwind: yes..
[04:31] <h3sp4wn> ehird: You can get most of the X includes with the xorg-dev metapackage
[04:32] <ehird> thanks
[04:32] <gautam> anyways i'm out
[04:32] <gautam> ty hawk
[04:32] <gautam> later
[04:34] <ehird> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[04:34] <ehird> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[04:34] <ehird> but i have qt3-dev
[04:34] <tobre> Hi, anyone know how to change video gamma and contrast. I use kmplayer.
[04:35] <ehird> also it complains about libjpeg but i cant find that in the repos
[04:35] <tha1> wireless question:
[04:35] <tha1> what's the difference between the WPA conmfigured in my router and the passphrase generated by wpa_passphrase?
[04:36] <Hawkwind> ehird: apt-cache search libjpeg  gives several results
[04:37] <ehird> any ideas about the qt prob?
[04:37] <Hawkwind> ehird: apt-cache search qt3   Many there too
[04:37] <ehird> yes
[04:37] <ehird> but i have them installed.
[04:37] <ehird> but it complains.
[04:37] <tha1> anyone?
[04:38] <Hawkwind> ehird: You have the libqt3-mt-dev package ?
[04:38] <lorenzo_> hi! how to show Trash and Home folders on my desktop?
[04:38] <Hawkwind> lorenzo_: Right click the desktop -> Configure Desktop
[04:39] <Sudo|Faderhval> anyone with experince with raid arrays?!
[04:39] <zoetrope666> drag and drop your 'home' folder from your 'places' menu?
[04:39] <zoetrope666> (onto your desktop)
[04:40] <ehird> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1 (20021021)) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[04:40] <ehird> For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log.
[04:40] <ehird> even aftering installing libqt3-mt-dev package
[04:40] <lorenzo_> Hawkwind: where is the option in "Configure Desktop" ?
[04:41] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> hmm how do I update upgrade my Kubuntu distro?
[04:41] <Hawkwind> Nanaki_Yamabushi: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:41] <Hawkwind> lorenzo_: It's an option when you right click on the desktop itself
[04:41] <Nanaki_Yamabushi> When your runnin kubuntu or does that also when your in ubuntu?
[04:41] <lorenzo_> zoetrope666: drag and drop doesn't work
[04:42] <zoetrope666> oh ok. nevermind then. :P
[04:42] <lorenzo_> Hawkwind: I'm in "Configure - KDesktop"... now? :P
[04:42] <Hawkwind> lorenzo_: It's there somewhere, I don't use KDE so I don't know for sure
[04:42] <lorenzo_> ok :)
[04:42] <Hawkwind> lorenzo_: Behavior -> Show icons on desktop
[04:43] <Hawkwind> lorenzo_: First option in that menu actually
[04:43] <lorenzo_> Hawkwind: it shows only "/" icon
[04:43] <Hawkwind> lorenzo_: You running Edgy ?
[04:43] <ehird> ... nano version is really out of date
[04:43] <lorenzo_> Hawkwind: yes
[04:43] <Hawkwind> !hidden | lorenzo_
[04:43] <ubotu> lorenzo_: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[04:43] <ehird> nano version: 2.0 our version: 1.3
[04:44] <Hawkwind> ehird: I built nano 2.0 last night for Dapper in deb format in fact :)
[04:44] <ehird> Hawkwind: using edgy
[04:44] <ehird> ah well, i'm compiling it myself
[04:44] <Hawkwind> ehird: Don't compile it
[04:45] <Hawkwind> ehird: Build a deb package for it.  Very simple
[04:45] <ehird> me want to ):
[04:45] <Hawkwind> Keeps your system cleaner that way
[04:45] <ehird> checkinstall <.< >.>
[04:45] <h3sp4wn> ehird: /msg dpkg simple sid backport
[04:45] <Hawkwind> Do *NOT* use checkinstall
[04:45] <Hawkwind> No need to backport either
[04:45] <ehird> so, what's wrong with checkinstall
[04:45] <Hawkwind> Building the deb takes less than 5 minutes
[04:46] <Hawkwind> ehird: It's horribly written and can trash an entire system
[04:46] <lorenzo_> Hawkwind: not working...  ._.
[04:46] <ehird> Hawkwind: alright then, how do i build a deb
[04:46] <Hawkwind> ehird: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003
[04:46] <lorenzo_> in gnome there is 'gconf-manager'
[04:46] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: Its already in sid - Its more likely to conform to the guidelines ubuntu / debian use than some random /debian directory
[04:47] <Hawkwind> lorenzo_: You need to edit the file that URL mentioned above
[04:47] <Hawkwind> h3sp4wn: That how-to I just gave builds Ubuntu specific packages.  No need to do some silly backport from sid
[04:48] <ehird> Hawkwind: x86 64-bit Users? i'm not on 64-bit
[04:48] <Hawkwind> ehird: You don't need to be on 64Bit
[04:48] <Hawkwind> ehird: That how-to will work for 32Bit systems.  It's for either
[04:49] <h3sp4wn> Hawkwind: That is more time consuming when someone else has already done it
[04:49] <lorenzo_> Hawkwind: /.hidden edited...not working again :(
[04:49] <Hawkwind> lorenzo_: It works fine in my Edgy vmware install
[04:49] <Hawkwind> Jucato: !!!!!!!!!!!
[04:50] <Sudo|Faderhval> anyone with mdadm and raid0 experience?
[04:50] <Jucato> Hawkwind!!!
[04:50] <Jucato> Hawkwind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:50] <Jucato> :P
[04:50] <ehird> cp -r myproject-1.2 /home/myusername/packages/myproject/
[04:50] <ehird> cp myproject-1.2.tar.bz2 /home/myusername/packages/myproject/
[04:50] <ehird> do i have to do that? :/
[04:50] <ehird> it's already in a dir in my ~
[04:50] <ehird> just sans-/packages/
[04:50] <Hawkwind> ehird: Follow the how-to exactly
[04:51] <Hawkwind> ehird: You can change/make directories whatever you want them to be
[04:51] <Jucato> !paste | ehird
[04:51] <ubotu> ehird: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[04:51] <Dzany> nobody knows what is "Caught signal 11.Aborting" When I try to run Xorg -configure?
[04:51] <hyperactivecrond> is there a way to take jack output and use it as stdin? for example with lame?
[04:51] <h3sp4wn> ehird: You can use cdbs instead of debhelper if you wish
[04:52] <h3sp4wn> ehird: when you run dh_make just select cdbs instead
[04:54] <tony__> hello.. i installed BIND , using Adept , but i have no idea how to start the program, been searching and i can not find it
[04:55] <h3sp4wn> tony__: Why do you need bind ?
[04:55] <tony__> need to setup dns
[04:56] <ehird> would section be editor for nano
[04:56] <tony__> this would be my first time working with bind.. i used to use windows DNS server .
[04:56] <h3sp4wn> tony__: http://www.isc.org/index.pl?/sw/bind/
[04:57] <tony__> bind that i installed, is it shell based or dose it have GUI?
[04:58] <jhutchins> tony__: See also http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DNS-HOWTO.html
[04:58] <h3sp4wn> There are no gui dns servers afaik
[04:58] <hyperactivecrond> what pkg do i need to install to use glib?
[04:58] <jhutchins> Unlike Microsoft, Linux assumes you will learn something about what you're doing before you run something as potentially dangerous as bind.
[04:58] <hyperactivecrond> >=1.2.0
[04:58] <h3sp4wn> jhutchins: That doc is for bind 8 is it not ?
[04:59] <jhutchins> bind is bind.
[04:59] <h3sp4wn> No bind 9 is alot more picky about syntax
[04:59] <h3sp4wn> And the syntax changed substancially
[04:59] <|joe|> hi
[05:00] <jhutchins> I believe that's 9, the link to the homepage will take you to versions for 7, 8, and 9.
[05:00] <tony__> i had a hard time using GUI in microsoft . lol.. i don't think i get it using shell on linux :P.. but thanks anyways for the links . .will go trough
[05:00] <lorenzo__> thx
[05:00] <lorenzo__> bye ;-)
[05:00] <jhutchins> I must've gotten mine right, because it updated to 9 without complaint.
[05:01] <h3sp4wn> Upgrading from 8/9 with alot of zones definately was not straight forward when I had to do it (Maybe the backwards compatibility increased though because I was using a very early version of bind 9)
[05:02] <jhutchins> Bind 9 has been out since 2001.
[05:02] <h3sp4wn> This was in 2001
[05:02] <hyperactivecrond> solved my own prob
[05:02] <ehird> oh excellent now i have to dig out the manpages
[05:03] <ehird> just what i wanted to do instead of just ./configure; make; sudo make install
[05:03] <ehird> which, incidentally, is what i'm about to do
[05:04] <ehird> great! i get an error for that too <3<3<3
[05:04] <xavi> hola a todos!!
[05:05] <Jucato> !es
[05:05] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:06] <ehird> what do i need to install to get nano compiled? i know libncurses, what else
[05:06] <Jucato> ehird: nano is installed by default
[05:06] <Jucato> of course, unless you meant a newer version?
[05:06] <ehird> Jucato: i'm compiling nano 2.0.0
[05:06] <Jucato> ah
[05:06] <Dr_willis> isent there some apt command that can install the related build packates for a src deb...
[05:07] <Dr_willis> but who knows what 2.0.0 wants. :)
[05:07] <ehird> Dr_willis: yes, it uses magic. i.e. no
[05:07] <ehird> /home/ehird/nano-2.0.0/src/browser.c:610: undefined reference to `wmove'
[05:07] <ehird> /home/ehird/nano-2.0.0/src/browser.c:627: undefined reference to `COLS'

[05:07] <Dr_willis> it proberly needs directx10, and Mono 9.2.1.0
[05:07] <ehird> getting loads of things like that
[05:07] <ehird> anybody know what i'd need to install for that?
[05:07] <ehird> Dr_willis: heh
[05:08] <Dr_willis> that look like a bug to me. :)
[05:08] <ehird> well, at least it's not like emacs. that needs Windows Blackcomb
[05:08] <ehird> another snip:
[05:08] <ehird> /home/ehird/nano-2.0.0/src/winio.c:125: undefined reference to `wgetch'
[05:08] <ehird> /home/ehird/nano-2.0.0/src/winio.c:149: undefined reference to `nodelay'
[05:09] <Dr_willis> hmm the nano homepage has a windows binaries..  :) use wine nano.exe
[05:10] <ehird> ..
[05:10] <ehird> hah
[05:10] <Dr_willis> It just compiled for me. :)
[05:10] <ehird> ... bastard :p
[05:10] <Dr_willis> i got ooddles of dev packages installed.
[05:10] <ehird> guess i'll have to learn vi!</sarcasm>
[05:11] <nekomata> does anyone know which varient of SSL the ubuntu wiki uses? SSL2 or SSL3?
[05:11] <ehird> nekomata: why, you trying to crack it?
[05:11] <ehird> ... interesting
[05:11] <ehird> i ./configured again
[05:11] <ehird> and now make works
[05:11] <nekomata> ehird: trying to figure out why Firefox wont open https pages
[05:11] <Dr_willis> checking for wchar.h... yes  checking wctype.h usability... yes
[05:12] <ehird> but, hmm...
[05:12] <Dr_willis> those are from ./configure output. :P
[05:12] <ehird> interesting.
[05:12] <ehird> `nano` is still 1.3
[05:12] <Dr_willis> heh
[05:12] <willy> alguien me ayuda
[05:12] <willy> nececito hacer un instalador
[05:12] <Dr_willis> it may be in a differnt part of the path.. cd to the src dir and run that nano. :P
[05:12] <nekomata> looking at about:config seems to show that ssl2 is disabled
[05:12] <estigma> alguien me ayuda
[05:12] <estigma> necesito hacer un instalador
[05:13] <ehird> Dr_willis: yeah but i wanna know where it shooted itself to so i can overwrite my usr/bin copy :p
[05:13] <estigma> necesito hacer un instalador con java izq
[05:13] <Dr_willis> watch the install scripts. :P
[05:13] <estigma> ayuda porfavor
[05:13] <ehird> I can't find anything in them ;/
[05:13] <Hawkwind> !es
[05:13] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[05:13] <h3sp4wn> ehird: Get it from the feisty repos
[05:14] <h3sp4wn> ehird: (It has already been synced from sid to there by the looks of it)
[05:14] <ehird> no. i don't want to break anything.
[05:14] <ehird> fiesty = break
[05:14] <h3sp4wn> ehird: add a feisty deb-src line
[05:14] <h3sp4wn> ehird: and then apt-get -b source
[05:14] <arrautza> hi
[05:14] <Ayabara> what vo_driver do you use for mplayer in kubuntu? anyone know how to enable postprocessing in  ~mplayer/config?
[05:14] <Jucato> new Ubuntu releases are always synced from Sid in the beginning
[05:14] <h3sp4wn> ehird: You won't break it by having the deb-src line
[05:14] <ehird> q: after make installing something its safe to delete the source dir right
[05:15] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: They are only interesting in the beginning
[05:15] <Jucato> :)
[05:15] <Jucato> they're even more interesting a few days before the release
[05:15] <Jucato> the excitement and the anxiety
[05:15] <h3sp4wn> Its been frozen for ages by that point
[05:16] <|mp|> is there a .deb PowerDVD anywhere?
[05:16] <ehird> ..
[05:17] <ehird> aha
[05:17] <ehird> nano 2 is in /usr/local/bin
[05:17] <ehird> so can i just delete the nano in /usr/bin?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> ehird,  may want to rename it. :)
[05:17] <Dr_willis> or remove the package.
[05:17] <BluesKaj> try devede24 , |mp|
[05:17] <Dr_willis> -------->  <ehird> no. i don't want to break anything.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> so its best to proberly just remove the nano package. THEN isntall the one from source.
[05:18] <Dr_willis> may be better to use the source and that autopackage feature to make a deb out of it.
[05:18] <deepu> hi
[05:19] <deepu> what is the pass of root in Kubuntu?
[05:19] <Jucato> !sudo | deepu
[05:19] <ubotu> deepu: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[05:19] <ehird> i just removed nano package :)
[05:19] <arrautza> how can I identify a direcction on the sourse list??
[05:19] <nekomata> there is no root
[05:19] <Dr_willis> deepu,  you refering to the live cd? or an installed section.
[05:19] <nekomata> :ox
[05:19] <Dr_willis> arrautza,  identify ?
[05:20] <deepu> when i want to install font for SYSTEM, he ask pass for roots
[05:20] <Dr_willis> deepu, use the first isntalled users password for 'rooty things' :)
[05:20] <deepu> i install for personnal
[05:21] <h3sp4wn> Taking the pre made debian source from feisty would work fine
[05:21] <arrautza> Dr.Willis: i add some oficial adress to he source, but the aptget command say sommething lke
[05:21] <Dr_willis> arrautza,  you did do a 'apt-get update' after changing that file?
[05:21] <Jucato> don't mind  me... I'm under the influence of alcohol... good thing I'm not driving :P
[05:21] <nekomata> it's not abuse if the drugs are willing?
[05:21] <arrautza> like" can't get autentification " or some thing like that
[05:22] <Jucato> nekomata: lol
[05:22] <arrautza> yes i did it
[05:22] <ehird> is there a way to make nano use the extra space at the bottom for more ^<x>'s displayed instead of spacing?
[05:22] <otaku-san> Jucato: Hey there.  What've you been up to?
[05:22] <h3sp4wn> Its not abuse as long as you still sleep right (us fighter pilots get given speed before missions)
[05:22] <BluesKaj> just had a BLT with mayo ...waits for the cholesterol to plug things up
[05:22] <Jucato> otaku-san: drinking :P
[05:22] <Dr_willis> arrautza,  thats the pgp key issue, that you need to get from the repos to verify them. just a warning from apt on a potential security issue.
[05:22] <Jucato> Dr_willis: don't you mean GPG?
[05:23] <arrautza> ok
[05:23] <Dr_willis> Jucato,  proberly. :)
[05:23] <Dr_willis> MSG/PGP/MSN/PBS/NPR!
[05:23] <Whatsup> What do you think about 6.10?
[05:23] <otaku-san> Jucato: Hahaha drink and hack!  ;)
[05:23] <Jucato> I think 6.10 is Edgy :P
[05:23] <Whatsup> is it good?
[05:23] <arrautza> how can i get it ( the pgp key )?
[05:23] <Jucato> it's Edgy
[05:24] <Dr_willis> Whatsup,  works great for me.
[05:24] <BluesKaj> VG so far IMHO
[05:24] <Dr_willis> !apt-get
[05:24] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:24] <Jucato> arrautza: usually, the page where you get that specific repository has instructions to download and add a "key"
[05:24] <Whatsup> I have some problems with it after the upgrade.
[05:24] <arrautza> ok.. thanks
[05:24] <ehird> ... whyd oes nano ignore my nanorc file now
[05:24] <Jucato> Whatsup: in Edgy's case, if you have backups or if /home is on another partition, it's best to do a fresh install....
[05:24] <Jucato> sometimes...
[05:25] <BluesKaj> except for configging samba on my windows network ...I have permission "issues"
[05:27] <Dr_willis> ehird,  it hates you?
[05:27] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:27] <kezef> how do you change the init boot thing?
[05:27] <ehird> Dr_willis: yes, great answer, thank you.
[05:28] <kezef> i want to make it init 3
[05:28] <kezef> and i cant remember where the file is..
[05:28] <kezef> im on edgy
[05:28] <Dr_willis> ehird,  almost as good as complaining somthing you made from source, and expecting support in here eh. :)
[05:28] <Hawkwind> kezef: You boot to CLI now ?
[05:29] <Dr_willis> ehird,  let me check my nanorc
[05:29] <jhutchins> kezef: Init 3 is identical to init 2 (default).
[05:29] <jhutchins> Ubuntu does not follow the normal runlevel conventions.
[05:29] <kezef> well, i want to install the graphics driver, and thats the only way i can do it.
[05:29] <kezef> well what runlevel is terminal and no xserver?
[05:29] <Dr_willis> ## Please note that you must have configured nano with --enable-nanorc
[05:29] <Dr_willis> ## for this file to be read!  Also note that this file should not be in
[05:29] <Hawkwind> kezef: killall kdm if you're using kdm
[05:29] <BluesKaj> trying to use komba2 to access shared files on my windows network but i receive this error message: , smbmount exited with errors. smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000). smbmnt failed: 1
[05:30] <wildchild> how can I set max upload speed particully for one torrent? (with Ktorrent)
[05:30] <jhutchins> kezef: You'll need sudo to do that.
[05:31] <kezef> thanks jutchins
[05:32] <drebel> does anyone have problems burning with k3b on kubuntu 6.06.1?
[05:32] <Hawkwind> drebel: Not I.  What are you trying to burn ?
[05:32] <Dr_willis> ehird,  compile nano with   ./configure --enable-nanorc         :)
[05:33] <drebel> im trying to burn just data cd or dvd and it says io error and gives me a coaster
[05:33] <Dr_willis> ehird,  at first i thought that option was a nano runtime option.
[05:34] <arrautza> ubuntu have second names, like edgy or dapper, does kubuntu too??
[05:35] <Jucato> arrautza: it's the same
[05:35] <h3sp4wn> same ones
[05:35] <Jucato> at least we have names to call them... and they are far from cute anyway
[05:35] <h3sp4wn> feisty ?
[05:36] <Jucato> makes us unique though... and it seems that other distros are now "publicizing" their codenames too
[05:36] <Dr_willis> I perfer "Farting Fawn" :)
[05:36] <Jucato> lol
[05:36] <h3sp4wn> I want grumpy groundhog (not interested in any of the others really)
[05:36] <Jucato> Fscking Fawn probably
[05:36] <Dr_willis> Of course if the 'version' numbers actually ment somting other then just the date of release....
[05:36] <nekomata> Sleeping Sloth?
[05:36] <Jucato> but you do know what grumpy really is, and why it might never be released
[05:36] <Dr_willis> they may be a little more usefull.
[05:37] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: I know exactly what it should be
[05:37] <Dr_willis> Psycopathic Panda
[05:37] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: But the things I do want from svn getting them from grumpy groundhog would be easier than building them all the time
[05:37] <nekomata> Commie Codfish
[05:38] <Firetech> h3sp4wn: is there a grumpy groundhog? I haven't heard anything about it since the idea came somewhere between hoary and breezy...
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: By its definition it is supposed to be never released
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> Firetech: Its has been on various agenda's all the time
[05:39] <h3sp4wn> Firetech: Never seems to happen
[05:39] <Dr_willis> How about "Beta Beta" :)
[05:39] <wildchild> !ktorrent
[05:39] <ubotu> ktorrent: BitTorrent client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.3+dfsg1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1155 kB, installed size 5032 kB
[05:39] <Jucato> it's sort of a testing ground
[05:40] <arrautza>  jucato : mmm.... how do i know the one i'm using?
[05:40] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: Does it actually exist now ?
[05:40] <Jucato> arrautza: lsb_release -a
[05:40] <Jucato> h3sp4wn: Grumpy? haven't asked
[05:41] <wildchild> Is there a way with ktorrent to set max UL speed just for ONE torrent and not global??
[05:43] <Dr_willis> Hmmm...
[05:43] <Dr_willis> I was thinkin that such limits can be a bit hard to do.
[05:43] <Dr_willis> i dont see that feature in utorrent.exe either.
[05:44] <Dr_willis> it can set high/med/low bandwith for a specific torrent.. but not specificially for up/down for that torrent.
[05:44] <kezef> hey hutch, that didng work.
[05:44] <kezef> didnt
[05:44] <kezef> what runlevel is terminal?
[05:45] <Firetech> kezef: toy mean console? 1, or halt? 0
[05:45] <h3sp4wn> ?
[05:45] <drebel> Help! i get this error when trying to use k3b.    Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root?
[05:45] <Firetech> *you
[05:45] <drebel> what can i do
[05:45] <h3sp4wn> drebel: try running kdesu k3bsetup
[05:45] <drebel> how do i do that
[05:45] <Jucato> or install cdrecord :)
[05:46] <francois> hey everyone, whats a good website authoring tool for kubuntu ?
[05:46] <Jucato> Quanta Plus?
[05:46] <nekomata> kate ^.^
[05:46] <Jucato> (other options are Nvu and Bluefish)
[05:46] <Firetech> yeah, try Quanta
[05:46] <Jucato> Kate's good too. if you're into hard/hand-coding your pages :)
[05:46] <h3sp4wn> Jucato: cdrecord is a dependancy of k3b
[05:47] <Jucato> oh :)
[05:47] <Dr_willis> ls -l /usr/bin/cdrecord
[05:47] <Dr_willis> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 133 2006-08-17 08:57 /usr/bin/cdrecord
[05:47] <francois> ok thanks all
[05:47] <Dr_willis> its not SUID on this machine..
[05:47] <nekomata> I think I had one too many bad experiances with website authoring tools in the early days ;o)
[05:47] <francois> me too, stupid notepad
[05:47] <Dr_willis> oh for the good ole days.. of nice static sites...
[05:47] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:48] <francois> giant tables were everywhere, lol
[05:48] <nekomata> notepad was relatively good, compared to the graphical ones
[05:48] <h3sp4wn> avoid flash and java (and you actually get the most interesting sites anyway)
[05:48] <Dr_willis> then silly web tricks of the week... "oh lets use frames for a navigation panel" - lets use Tables and blank gfx to indent stuff...
[05:48] <Firetech> like Netscape Composer, which made a new font tag for eachg property
[05:48] <Jucato> never used Dreamweaver or Frontpage... just notepad..
[05:48] <francois> yeha i'm not a fan of either of those, specially since flash doesn't display right on my computer anyways, lol
[05:48] <mike_> hi guys, what would the syntax be to search the current directory and all sub-folders for all files ending with '.rb' or '.rhtml' that contain the string 'foo'?
[05:49] <mike_> using grep, I assume
[05:49] <h3sp4wn> mod_perl + template toolkit (and html tidy if your webdesigner gives you junk in dreamweaver)
[05:52] <h3sp4wn> mike_: find .rb -exec grep "foo" '{}' \; -print (but that is only one at a time - canot remember the syntax for or with find)
[05:53] <mike_> thanks
[05:53] <BluesKaj> What does this mean and how do i fix it ? Trying to use komba (samba network browser to access the windows network and shared files .  "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts"
[05:54] <h3sp4wn> mike_: I usually have to look at the find man page for more complicated ones
[05:54] <h3sp4wn> !suid
[05:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about suid - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <|joe|> is here anybody thinking he is good at configuring udev? can't get rule for my IR working
[05:59] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  the smbmnt binary must be set "suid" - smb4k has the same  need.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> the tool to unmount the smb shares must also be SUID for the users to unmount the shares
[05:59] <Dr_willis> -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root    8672 2006-07-11 09:28 smbmnt
[05:59] <Dr_willis>  -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root    6088 2006-07-11 09:28 smbumount
[05:59] <Dr_willis> note the 's'
[06:03] <h3sp4wn> sudo chmod +s `which smbmnt`
[06:03] <suso> hola
[06:03] <Sudo|Faderhval> how do i log in to secure mode ??
[06:05] <suso> soy novato estoy en el Adep Installer y no tengo instalado el Package Manager
[06:05] <suso> alguien me puede decir como instalarlo?
[06:06] <draik> My laptop can't seem to remember the root password that I have set
[06:06] <draik> How do I make it remember?
[06:06] <draik> what file do I modify?
[06:06] <timgluz> hi!
[06:07] <draik> hi timgluz
[06:08] <|joe|> draik: you mean your password or root pw? ubuntu doesn't have root account enabled out of the box
[06:08] <|joe|> draik: you can change your pw by running 'passwd'
[06:09] <draik> |joe|: root pw. I did   "sudo passwd root" to set the pw, but it won't remember it
[06:09] <draik> and I need it for maintenance
[06:09] <draik> Can't log into my laptop at all
[06:09] <draik> errors with Kubuntu partition
[06:10] <draik> I don't have a prompt
[06:10] <Sudo|Faderhval> can anyone tell me how i log in, in secure mode??
[06:11] <draik> |joe|: I want to run fsck on the partition, but I can't do it without root pw or even a prompt to attempt sudo fsck
[06:11] <Dr_willis> secure?
[06:11] <Sudo|Faderhval> rescue mode even
[06:12] <Dr_willis> boot to single user mode - may be a good idea. or use a live cd.
[06:12] <|joe|> draik: i don't understand
[06:12] <draik> |joe|: Give root password for maintenance (or type Control-D to continue):
[06:13] <draik> CTRL-D reboots
[06:13] <|joe|> draik: and how did you boot?
[06:13] <arrautza> how can i install flash player 9 beta?
[06:14] <draik> |joe|: I rebooted because my laptop was lagging with 100% CPU and RAM w/ ~ 20% SWAP
[06:14] <draik> 1GB swap
[06:15] <|joe|> draik: hmmmm never had this, do you have a cd/dvd? can you try to boot from it and run fsck there?
[06:15] <draik> I will
[06:15] <draik> I do AND I will
[06:16] <|joe|> draik: ok i see
[06:17] <|joe|> draik: sorry i can't help you here; the root account is disabled by default, and i'm not sure what checks are done at this prompt
[06:17] <|joe|> draik: maybe you'd have to enable the root accout first
[06:17] <draik> |joe|: What options should I do for fsck?
[06:18] <|joe|> draik: ext3 or what do you have there?
[06:19] <roberto> salve a tutti
[06:19] <Sudo|Faderhval> draik try sudo passwd root
[06:19] <ehird> what's the ./configure switch to enable syntax highlighting in nano?
[06:19] <roberto> i hi
[06:19] <|joe|> Sudo|Faderhval: did already
[06:19] <draik> Sudo|Faderhval: I did. My laptop can't seem to hold on to that information
[06:19] <roberto> good evening at all the people here
[06:20] <roberto> i need help whit Amarok
[06:20] <|joe|> draik: maybe usermod --unlock root
[06:20] <roberto> anyone may help me?
[06:20] <draik> Sudo|Faderhval: I try to avoid rebooting my laptop at any cost. Never remembers root for some strange reason
[06:20] <draik> will do
[06:20] <|joe|> draik: if  you take a look into /etc/shadow you can figure out whether the account/pwd is valid
[06:21] <roberto> ci sono italiani ?
[06:21] <apokryphos> !it
[06:21] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[06:21] <apokryphos> roberto: ^
[06:34] <elias_> This is how I believe things should be done in ubuntu and kubuntu alike: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/efficient-coding-strategy
[06:36] <xsacha> hmmm a tip: do not create files starting with a dash and having one letter!
[06:37] <Whatsup> Why not?
[06:39] <xsacha> cause when a wildcard expands, programs seem to take the filename as an option
[06:39] <draik> |joe|: Sudo|Faderhval: Once I have done fsck, I can reboot my computer from livecd to hdd?
[06:41] <xsacha> Whatsup:  finished making file called test, then mv test -test
[06:48] <ubuntu> hi all
[06:48] <adz21c> I don't seem to be able to get my graphics card to work correctly, can anyone offer any assistance?
[06:49] <Whatsup> which one adz21c
[06:50] <adz21c> Nvidia FX5900
[06:50] <Whatsup> Did you install the drivers
[06:50] <adz21c> i am trying to use legacy drivers since that is what i used in dapper
[06:50] <adz21c> yup, tried ones off nvidia.com and the .deb's
[06:50] <Whatsup> and what is the problem
[06:51] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:51] <adz21c> i can't launch anything like glxgears
[06:51] <adz21c> it says i got no glx extension, but its there in the xorg.conf
[06:51] <h3sp4wn> use either the ones from nvidia.com or the deb's (if you try to do both it will mess up)
[06:51] <adz21c> i have
[06:53] <h3sp4wn> exactly tried both means your system is now in any number of states
[06:53] <adz21c> no
[06:53] <adz21c> i mean
[06:53] <adz21c> tried seperately
[06:54] <manitho> hi
[07:10] <usamahashimi> hi all
[07:11] <usamahashimi> how can i restore my grub?
[07:12] <h3sp4wn> grub-install --recheck --no-floppy --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda (something like that look at the grub-install man page)
[07:12] <mi> hi.. if anyone can help... I'm trying to install a package with apt-get but I get: Package ia32-libs-gtk is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:12] <mi> is there anyway I can install it?
[07:13] <h3sp4wn> check you have all the repos enabled
[07:14] <usamahashimi> h3sp4wn: i did this but it said that no stage1 found (somthing like that)
[07:15] <mi> h3sp4wn: tks
[07:15] <h3sp4wn> usamahashimi: I am not sure (I use a seperate /boot partition so what works with me for grub doesn't work for most people and leaves me guessing a bit)
[07:15] <h3sp4wn> usamahashimi: try it without the --root-directory part
[07:18] <ako> how do i register my nickname?
[07:19] <Hawkwind> !register | ako
[07:19] <ubotu> ako: Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:19] <ako> tnx
[07:32] <kezef> how do you kill the x server?
[07:33] <gnomefreak> kezef: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[07:33] <kezef> if i do that it wont let me run any commands
[07:33] <kezef> i want the terminal.
[07:36] <kezef> how do i get to the terminal?
[07:36] <kezef> without running the x server
[07:37] <farshid> hi to all
[07:37] <RobNyc[] > wow my kubuntu edgy ati x1600 pro running xgl+beryl its so unstable actually its buggy anyways .. is it my fglrx ?
[07:38] <farshid> cool
[07:38] <farshid> wha is this here
[07:39] <dcook> has anyone intalled citrix on kubuntu
[07:39] <dcook> i just  did and it's not working
[07:39] <dcook> i think I'm missing a library or someting
[07:40] <kezef> citrix?
[07:41] <dcook> kind of a remote desktop thing
[07:41] <kezef> hmm have you tried removing then reinstalling
[07:43] <dcook> i just installed it
[07:43] <dcook> it appeared to install correctly
[07:43] <BluesKaj> What does this mean and how do i fix it ? Trying to use komba (samba network browser to access the windows network and shared files .  "smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts"
[07:43] <kezef> hmm.. any error messages?
[07:44] <dcook> it says something about libXm.so.3
[07:45] <kezef> try apt-getting it
[07:45] <dcook> there isn't a package for it
[07:45] <dcook> there isn't a package for it
[07:46] <dcook> oops
[07:46] <dcook> i installed it from the package from citrix
[07:46] <kezef> just noticed that
[07:46] <dcook> i'm new at this
[07:51] <Kim^J> Anyone knows a media center program like the Windows Media Center for KDE?
[07:52] <h3sp4wn> For using with tv etc ?
[07:52] <Kim^J> h3sp4wn: No... Just a cool program where all media KDE things are collected.
[07:52] <Kim^J> I don't have a TV card in this laptop. :)
[07:53] <h3sp4wn> Don't know about a "cool program" what I think is cool people think often isn't
[07:53] <Kim^J> Hmm...
[07:54] <stefreak__> A program really like WMCE?
[07:54] <Kim^J> stefreak_: Something like it.
[07:54] <stefreak__> or can amaroK do it roo?
[07:54] <stefreak__> too
[07:54] <Kim^J> Just another unneccessary thing i would like to brag about.
[07:54] <Kim^J> Like a UI for Amarok/Kaffeine/Mplayer and such... Something like that.
[07:55] <stefreak__> hmm
[07:55] <stefreak__> i dont know a program like that for linux
[07:55] <Kim^J> I always try to get new cool stuff so I can brag about them at the Windows people in the class.
[07:55] <Kim^J> Ok.
[07:56] <Kim^J> They thought AIGLX/Beryl was really cool.
[07:57] <Kim^J> And some people where so jealous that they said: It's so ugly!
[07:57] <h3sp4wn> I think vista has a much nicer colourscheme than the default {k}ubuntu one
[07:57] <Kim^J> h3sp4wn: Isn't to hard to change thought.
[07:57] <Lam_> i'm installing cedega and it says i'm missing python-gtk2.  do i install python-gtk2, or python-gtk2-dev?
[07:58] <h3sp4wn> No one ever seems to provide a decent black one
[07:58] <Kim^J> Lam_: Are you compiling?
[07:58] <h3sp4wn> Kim^J: True but consistancy between gtk and qt apps is hard with most themes
[07:58] <Lam_> Kim^J: since cedega is proprietary, i would assume not. it's a deb file
[07:58] <Kim^J> h3sp4wn: I prefer white/blue.
[07:58] <Kim^J> Lam_: Then the one without -dev
[07:58] <Lam_> Kim^J: ok thanks
[07:59] <Kim^J> Lam_: You know that you can do comiling the cvs version of Cedega?
[07:59] <Lam_> Kim^J: what advantages does that have?
[07:59] <Kim^J> Newer.
[07:59] <Kim^J> More bugs.
[08:00] <h3sp4wn> Alot more difficult to get working if you don't know exactly what you are doing
[08:00] <Kim^J> And that ofcourse.
[08:00] <h3sp4wn> It doesn't have the gdb profiles for the games
[08:00] <Lam_> Kim^J: yeah. i don't really know if i want to, but i could give that a shot.  some cvs versions are pretty stable (mplayer), whereas others could be buggy (gaim)
[08:00] <Kim^J> Lam_: Don't use Gaim. It's NOT ready for anything I would say.
[08:01] <Kim^J> Kopete is just so much better. Well atleast for MSN.
[08:01] <Lam_> Kim^J: i don't know. i prefer gaim.  kopete seems very lacking in features. it can't even do proper oscar protocol file transfers
[08:01] <fido> hi everybody!
[08:01] <mav_> Hello all, I have a question regarding Krita
[08:01] <fido> bye everybody
[08:01] <mav_> I've read that it supports PSD v6
[08:02] <Kim^J> mav_: Hit it,
[08:02] <Kim^J> mav_: Use GIMP.
[08:02] <mav_> But in my open dialog I don't see that
[08:02] <mav_> I know Gimp have some basic PSD support
[08:02] <mav_> But I like Krita more
[08:02] <Kim^J> Basic?
[08:02] <mav_> Without layer effects = basic
[08:02] <Kim^J> I can open and modify and play all I want with PSD from PS 9.0
[08:03] <Kim^J> And I got the layer effects that my bud had put in.
[08:03] <mav_> Well, I'm not a designer, I only use Krita/GIMP to cut files I get from my designer
[08:03] <mav_> So Krita doesn't have it ?
[08:03] <Kim^J> I dunno. I never even touch Krita.
[08:03] <wilde> hello is there anyone from poland  ??
[08:04] <mav_> I am
[08:04] <wilde> need help
[08:04] <mav_> Prv
[08:04] <wilde> yes
[08:04] <wilde> can u start
[08:04] <wilde> mam blokade od ciebie
[08:05] <wilde> na spam
[08:05] <mav_> Wejdz na #kubuntu_pl
[08:05] <wilde> oko
[08:07] <mav_> If Krita supported PSD I would use it only
[08:07] <mav_> Now I have to save every file in multiple png's ;/
[08:09] <root_> hi room
[08:09] <root_> i cannot login anymore since an upgrade to edgy, but startx from console works
[08:09] <BluesKaj> root ...change your nick now !
[08:09] <root_> BluesKaj, y?
[08:10] <BluesKaj> never login as root
[08:10] <root_> i know
[08:10] <root_> pls help me, thats the only way for me to login right now
[08:10] <root_> h3sp4wn, are u there?
[08:10] <dell> #
[08:10] <BluesKaj>  /nick  newnick
[08:11] <jack11> so anybody an idea?
[08:11] <jack11> its with the x-authority
[08:15] <tobre> Hi!
[08:15] <timgluz> tere!
[08:15] <timgluz> kuidas tartus kulgeb?
[08:16] <tobre> Is anyone know something about Kubuntu Remote places?
[08:18] <tobre> I made there SSH connection, but I can't remove it.
[08:20] <tobre> timgluz: kes sa oled?:P
[08:21] <max_> hi, i replaced the motherboard on my computer and everything is going fine except i have no sound, i even put a sound card in a PCI slot to see if it was the onboard sound messing up and i have no sound from that either
[08:24] <max_> anyone alive in here
[08:24] <tobre> No, I think.
[08:25] <max_> anyone alive in here
[08:29] <adz21c> apt:/
[08:29] <max_> hi, i replaced the motherboard on my computer and everything is going fine except i have no sound, i even put a sound card in a PCI slot to see if it was the onboard sound messing up and i have no sound from that either
[08:30] <adz21c> max_: if you launch something like kmix does it even see your sound card(s)?
[08:30] <max_> no
[08:30] <max_> only onboard
[08:30] <adz21c> ok, but it actually acknowledges your onboard car exists?
[08:30] <adz21c> card*
[08:31] <max_> i guess
[08:31] <max_> im not sure
[08:31] <max_> how can i tell
[08:31] <adz21c> well if you launch kmix the mixer window has a combo box with a selection of sound devices, does it have any
[08:32] <max_> i dont see a box with a selection of sound in it
[08:32] <max_> the sound system in system settings has it
[08:33] <max_> like "autodetect" "alsa" "open sound steyem" etc?
[08:33] <adz21c> u've lost me on that one :-)
[08:34] <adz21c> oh wait i know what ya mean now lol
[08:35] <max_> is that what your talking about?
[08:35] <adz21c> no
[08:36] <adz21c> i am thinking of the application kmix
[08:36] <adz21c> it puts a speaker like looking thing in the systemtray
[08:36] <max_> all i see on kmix is output input and switches
[08:37] <adz21c> hmm it might not appear if it only has one then
[08:37] <adz21c> mine has a combo box on the right with selection for my webcam (has mic) and sound card
[08:37] <max_> ya the speaker is there
[08:37] <adz21c> well do u have sliders on output?
[08:38] <max_> yes
[08:38] <max_> there all up
[08:38] <adz21c> any got like green lights above them?
[08:38] <max_> the combo box, is that under output input or switches
[08:38] <max_> they all do
[08:39] <adz21c> its above them next to "Current mixer:"
[08:39] <adz21c> ok
[08:40] <max_> the only cxombo boxes i have are mic select    IEC958 playback source  and   mono output source
[08:40] <adz21c> ok np, not important, as long as it sees a card
[08:40] <adz21c> what u got under switches?
[08:41] <max_> headphone jack, line jack sensors, mic boost, IEC985, mix, mix mono, external amplifier, stero mic
[08:43] <adz21c> u got normal stereo plugged in right? no kind of digital output to amp?
[08:43] <max_> nope, speakers plugged right into soundcard
[08:43] <adz21c> ok
[08:43] <adz21c> what sound card is this by the way?
[08:44] <max_> i dunno, some generic one ive had lieing around for a while
[08:44] <adz21c> lol ok, ummm
[08:44] <max_> i tohught oit might be a sotware thing so i booted up on a Konnopix live cd and still no sound
[08:44] <adz21c> u got "KInfocenter" under system in menus?
[08:45] <Tonren> When I try to play last.fm audio stream in amaroK, it says "No suitable input plugin", and tells me there also might be a network error.  I'm using Ubuntu 6.10 (not Kubuntu).
[08:45] <max_> tonren: #ubuntu
[08:45] <Tonren> max_: K.  No one was answering there, so I figured I'd try here
[08:46] <adz21c> Tonren: you might need a plugin to use last.fm, I don't know I never tried, tried googling for it?
[08:46] <max_> yes, i have that
[08:46] <Tonren> adz21c: Yep!  Google hasn't turned up anything
[08:46] <karl> Hi :)
[08:47] <Letherian> Can anyone help me with a wine-issue, please? :)
[08:47] <adz21c> max_: launch it and go to sound, whats it say?
[08:48] <max_> says abuncha stuff
[08:48] <max_> Letherian: #WineHQ
[08:48] <Letherian> thanks :)
[08:48] <max_> mhm
[08:49] <max_> adz21c: which part do you need to know
[08:49] <adz21c> max_: i don't know, i am cluching at straws for maybe a clue lol
[08:51] <max_> sound driver, installed drivers, card config,  audoi devices, or mixers?
[08:51] <adz21c> audio devices
[08:52] <max_> 0: Intel
[08:52] <max_> oops, hang on
[08:52] <max_> 0: Intel ICH5 (DUPLEX)
[08:53] <adz21c> try running "sudo alsaconf" in konsole?
[08:53] <LjL> alsaconf isn't installed on Ubuntu i think
[08:54] <adz21c> oh ok
[08:54] <max_> what are you running?
[08:54] <adz21c> kubuntu, but i saw it on a forum for guy with same problem
[08:54] <max_> oh
[08:55] <max_> i could understand onboard not working (could just be a motherboard problem) but why woulndt a sound card work?
[08:55] <adz21c> poor drivers maybe
[08:55] <max_> how could i get more?
[08:56] <adz21c> they usually compiled with the kernel so i wouldn't know how
[08:56] <adz21c> i think
[08:56] <intelikey> this is the place to ask windows questions isn't it ?
[08:56] <adz21c> ?
[08:56] <max_> maybe intelikey can help, hes helped me before
[08:56] <intelikey> i tried ##windows  but they never acknoledged me
[08:57] <LjL> well i don't know about that, but this is definitely not the place to ask Windows questions...
[08:57] <intelikey> can/does the windows xp defragmenter consolidate free space ?
[08:57] <LjL> i think it does and that's why it's so slow
[08:58] <h3sp4wn> It cannot defragment the page file though
[08:58] <max_> Ljl: any ideas on my problem?
[08:58] <LjL> no but then you can remove the swapfile (and be careful to not load too many programs...), then defragment, and then recreate the swapfile
[08:59] <adz21c> max put this in console "lsmod | grep snd_ich"
[08:59] <intelikey> i'm trying to defrag an xp for someone for a resize... if left to me the resize would be rm ntfs and mke2fs  but it's not mine.
[08:59] <LjL> max_, i think i wasn't even here when you stated it originally. i guess it's "i have no sound" though?
[08:59] <max_> hi, i replaced the motherboard on my computer and everything is going fine except i have no sound, i even put a sound card in a PCI slot to see if it was the onboard sound messing up and i have no sound from that either
[08:59] <LjL> max_: does "cat </dev/urandom >/dev/dsp" give any sound?
[09:00] <max_> ill try
[09:00] <LjL> intelikey anyway AFAIK using the XP defragmenter *should* help consolidating space in order to resize a partition
[09:00] <intelikey> the graph in the defragmenter shows four major congestions of files with large free spaces between.... both the before and after look the same..... ?
[09:01] <max_> no, no sound
[09:01] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: You need to turn off the virtual memory first or its useless
[09:01] <intelikey> h3sp4wn ah ok.  i'll shoot that one in the foot and see what happens.
[09:01] <LjL> max_: no error either?
[09:02] <max_> h3sp4wn: you have any ideas on my problem?
[09:02] <max_> LjL: no
[09:02] <LjL> max_: are you sure it's not a mixer problem? modern soundcards can have a *lot* of mixer controls, some of which a bit cryptic...
[09:03] <max_> its not a modern soundard
[09:03] <max_> its old
[09:03] <LjL> max_, how do you know that Ubuntu is now trying to use that PCI soundcard rather than the embedded one?
[09:03] <max_> i dont
[09:04] <h3sp4wn> max_: Don't have edgy here no idea
[09:04] <LjL> max_, then i guess it's still trying to use the embedded card, which probably does have many mixer controls
[09:04] <LjL> connect something to it and try putting every slider to the max and every switch to On
[09:04] <max_> ok
[09:05] <max_> nothing
[09:05] <intelikey> h3sp4wn i turned vertual memory off  but do i need to reboot for it to affect anything ?
[09:06] <LjL> max_, keep trying the cat </dev/urandom >/dev/dsp thing, not MP3 players or somesuch. can you type "amixer controls" and pastebin the output?
[09:07] <hazard> anyone have any experience with apache?
[09:07] <whtiger711> anyone have a useful program for ubuntu that i can download fromhere
[09:08] <LjL> i have experience with it crashing in debian testing, but aside from that, no
[09:08] <LjL> whtiger711: uh?
[09:09] <whtiger711> someone is trying to teach me to use linux based os's     they said you can get programs from other people through irc
[09:09] <LjL> whtiger711: that's a very bad idea.
[09:10] <LjL> whtiger711: get programs from the repositories instead
[09:10] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell whtiger711 about repos
[09:12] <whtiger711> well i would have to say that should help alot more then trying over irc    thank you LjL
[09:14] <doctormo> hey all
[09:14] <doctormo> bit of a problem with beryl
[09:14] <h3sp4wn> intelikey: I would have thought so
[09:14] <doctormo> the window decorations don't apear. they flicker on for a second then disapear
[09:18] <Kazetachi> Hi all. Could use some help with the upgrade from Dapper to Edgy.
[09:25] <espanto> mooooo
[09:28] <kezef> whats a good place for apps?
[09:29] <Hawkwind> kezef: What do you mean ?
[09:30] <Dr_willis> freshmeat.net
[09:30] <Dr_willis> for news of new things. :P is a good place to have a live bookmark for.
[09:30] <kezef> well, i need plugins for amarok
[09:30] <kezef> the cddb wont find the cd names
[09:30] <Hawkwind> kalenedrael: kde-look.org ?
[09:31] <kalenedrael> You mean kezef? :P
[09:31] <kezef> Lol
[09:31] <kezef> thats waht i was thinking.
[09:31] <galathalion> why dont i have any sound in opera anymore? :O
[09:31] <kezef> i like your name Kalendrael, reminds me of an angel
[09:31] <Hawkwind> kalenedrael: Heh, sorry
[09:31] <kalenedrael> :P
[09:33] <kezef> im starting to hate edgy
[09:33] <kezef> i remember in dapper i had a crapload of progs
[09:33] <kezef> and now all i have is like 10 things
[09:33] <shinobi2> hi
[09:33] <Dr_willis> crapload of things that you never used. :)
[09:33] <kezef> lol so true.
[09:34] <kezef> but it was fun to look at!
[09:34] <kezef> thats what matters
[09:34] <kezef> whats a good graphics prog for linux
[09:34] <kezef> something different from gimp..
[09:35] <howefield> guys, can some one help me out and give me a pointer on how to install grub after wiping the mbr
[09:36] <Dr_willis> depends on the job you want to do.
[09:36] <Dr_willis> I saw a SVG image editor the other day.. not GPL but free... but i cant rember its name
[09:36] <Dr_willis> aparently its popular under windows.. and they now have a linux port.
[09:36] <Dr_willis> howefield,  boot live cd, chroot to the / of the system, rerun update-grub
[09:36] <AV1611>  BTW, did anybody ever tried to work at UBUNTU at NEC low-end laptops (M500, P520))? What were your impressions with it?
[09:37] <Dr_willis> I ran ubuntu on a Pent1 - 100 laptop.
[09:37] <Dr_willis> it worked. :P
[09:37] <howefield> thanks Dr_willis
[09:37] <AV1611> that's great, but I meant some laps like Cel 1.x
[09:38] <sybux> !wiki mp3
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about wiki mp3 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <Womper> Hi, I updated from 6.06 to 6.10 today, everything works fine, I think, except for my wireless, ndiswrapper is installed but my wireless adapter does not show up when I type iwconfig
[09:38] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell sybux about mpe
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about mpe - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <sybux> can some1 please tell me which package I need to install to listen mp3 I can't find
[09:40] <LjL> whops
[09:40] <LjL> i never ever get that right
[09:40] <LjL> libxine-extracodecs anyway
[09:41] <shinobi2> if i use redirection to read inputs, ./a.out <data.dat, and i am using FILE *fp to do it with scanf. Is ./a.out really taking the input or fp is reading it from the directory regardless of the < redirection?
[09:41] <shinobi2> wrong channel
[09:41] <LjL> shinobi2: yeah, and the question doesn't make much sense :P if you're using a FILE pointer, i guess you're also using fopen() to open an actual file
[09:42] <LjL> and then using fscanf rather than plain scanf
[09:43] <Dr_willis> the KUBUNTU FAQ mentions what pacnages are needed for different programs to play/use mp3's
[09:44] <slow-motion> n8
[09:46] <sybux> I'm using a multimeda keyboard. Is there a website where I can download xmodmap for my keyboard (it's a logitech)
[09:47] <Womper> !wireless
[09:47] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[09:49] <sharakato> hello
[09:49] <Dr_willis> Howdies!
[09:49] <Dr_willis> "Hello, my name is Dr_willis  and Im a Linux Addict"
[09:49] <now3d> hi
[09:49] <howefield> Dr_willis, can I ask you a further question, if I use a program like Acronis True Image to back up my partitions, to try out another version, eg, 6.06 to 6.10, and don`t like 6.10, I could re image my partitions and get the relevant grub back ?
[09:49] <howefield> hope that made sense
[09:50] <sharakato> anybody can help telling me how can i install grub from a live CD__
[09:50] <sharakato> ??
[09:50] <Dr_willis> Grub is normally easier to just have it reinstall itself. then to try to restore it.
[09:50] <Dr_willis> To restore grub i normally do the following..
[09:50] <Dr_willis> get a live cd, boot it, chroot to where my / Normally is.
[09:50] <Dr_willis> run update-grub
[09:51] <sharakato> done
[09:51] <sharakato> thanks Dr_willis
[09:51] <howefield> right, so I could re image my drives, pop in the live cd for the relevant version and go through your method, I`d be back in business ?
[09:51] <sharakato> =)
[09:51] <adz21c> anyone know where i can get the kdevelop package for edgy amd64?
[09:52] <shaddar> how can i configure my wlan so that it connects to a network the time the network is in range ?
[09:52] <howefield> I suppose the worst that can happen is a complete reinstall, hehe
[09:56] <Dr_willis> howefield,  ive used different live cd's once ya chroot - the live cd dont really matter.
[09:56] <adz21c> when i first log in all the colours are bad (as if I have it set to a low colour settings) soon as i launch something like glxgears it all corrects, any ideas why this might be?
[09:59] <stefano> hi
[10:01] <howefield> cheers, many thanks
[10:05] <littlebird> Hey get the word out on chemtrails people.
[10:05] <littlebird> The black ops part of the government is trying to poison and slowly kill it's population through the skies with it's chemtrail program.
[10:05] <littlebird> During clear skies, white spew planes at high altitude silently spew out long white lines of chemtrails. The first type of these trails consist of very fine aluminum particles. These dissapear from sight about as fast as normal plane contrail would. These heat up the atmosphere for better chemtrail dispersal.
[10:05] <littlebird> The other ones slowly widen and disperse and eventually hit the ground giving people a whole range of respiratory problems and deadly diseases.
[10:06] <littlebird> Some of these diseases include Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, Multiple Sclerosis, Alzheimer's and a whole wide range of other dibalitating and deadly afflictions that can be triggered anywhere from the immediate to many, many years later down the road.
[10:06] <littlebird> Here are some links if anyone wants to look into the illegal government activites that are going on.
[10:06] <littlebird> http://www.skyhighway.com/~chemtrails/intro_to_chem.html
[10:06] <Dr_willis> Wow... proof that people belive anything...
[10:07] <ejm> hey, I'm wanting to setup kubuntu for my parents' desktop.
[10:07] <ejm> Anyway, I have the official kubuntu 6.06 cd.
[10:07] <sybux> can1 some1 help me resolving my mp3 listen issue ?
[10:07] <ejm> And it has a buffalo wifi card that I put in.
[10:08] <_doppelganger_> hey guys, anyone ever have trouble seeing the menus in Audacity?
[10:09] <_doppelganger_> where file, edit, etc would be, there are just white rectangles
[10:09] <Dr_willis> sybux,  and the issue is?
[10:09] <Dr_willis> _doppelganger_,  that sounds like a font issue.. but not seen the problem, ive rarely used  Audacity
[10:10] <_doppelganger_> or can anyone recommend a comparable audio editor for KDE?
[10:10] <sybux> I can't listen mp3 even after adding libxine package
[10:10] <Dr_willis> sybux,  listen with what program.
[10:10] <ryanakca> littlebird: no pasting please
[10:10] <ryanakca> lol
[10:10] <ryanakca> grr lag
[10:10] <ryanakca> why can't I install fonts?
[10:10] <ryanakca> 148s lag
[10:10] <sybux> Dr_willis: amarok
[10:11] <_doppelganger_> Dr_willis:  strange...   every other font in KDE is fine
[10:11] <_doppelganger_> maybe i'll load up with beryl and see if i can see anything
[10:11] <_doppelganger_> one sec
[10:14] <_doppelganger_> strange...  still nothing
[10:14] <_doppelganger_> ah, well...  i'll go hunt for another sound editor
[10:16] <_doppelganger_> Dr_willis: ahh...  guess there is a bug-   http://www.mail-archive.com/ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com/msg97218.html
[10:18] <sybux> Dr_willis: do you have any idea ?
[10:19] <dennister> g'day all :)
[10:20] <howefield> sybux, what version of amarok are you using ? when I loaded it up for the first time and tried to play an mp3, it offered to go and get the required files in order to play mp3s
[10:20] <howefield> version 1.4.3
[10:20] <sybux> howefield: I'm running 1.4.3
[10:20] <sybux> alos
[10:21] <Desh> Ok, so I updated to 6.10, everything works, I can connect thru WLAN if I use the CLI commands, but wlassistant does not wanna work. Any clues?
[10:21] <howefield> suppose you`ve tried removing and reinstalling ?
[10:22] <Desh> no..
[10:22] <Desh> :-D
[10:22] <dennister> Desh: wlan assistant is still one of those problematic items with edgy
[10:22] <sybux> howefield: not yet. Can you please indicate me how to remove amarok ?
[10:22] <LjL> sudo apt-get remove amarok
[10:22] <howefield> through adept
[10:22] <howefield> or synaptic
[10:22] <Desh> Ah ok, any other thanks dennister, any ideas on another GUI app that would allow me to connect WLAN?
[10:23] <sybux> howefield: as you want
[10:23] <howefield> err....
[10:23] <dennister> sorry, i'm afraid i don't use wlan on this pc; it's just something i read in the release notes/changelog
[10:23] <sybux> howefield: ok I'll do it with adept
[10:23] <Desh> ok thanks :-D
[10:23] <howefield> right, hope it works out
[10:24] <sybux> hope too
[10:24] <ademan> can checkinstall keep track of binary installers? (*.run installers and whatnot)
[10:28] <dennister> gtg pps...ubuntu linux event here in toronto
[10:28] <gautam> hi guys
[10:28] <dennister> just thought i'd check in :)
[10:29] <ademan> hey
[10:31] <sybux> howefield: yes !!! it's working. I've removed the libxine-extracodec and reinstall but as I haven't enabled the multiverse, when I've done the upgrade to edgy, this package haven't be updated !!
[10:32] <howefield> hehe
[10:33] <howefield> excellent
[10:34] <sybux> howefield: ^^ now for a good job, I'll see a little Saint Saya !!
[10:34] <howefield> bye
[10:38] <gautam> man kubuntu sucks
[10:38] <gautam> ubuntu is better
[10:39] <Electrolyte> I don't understand how Kubuntu could suck.
[10:39] <Electrolyte> It's exactly the same as Ubuntu, except it uses KDE.
[10:39] <gautam> i know
[10:39] <gautam> adept dont work
[10:39] <gautam> what ever u try to install
[10:39] <gautam> it gives error
[10:39] <Electrolyte> Works here.
[10:39] <gautam> synatpic was so easy
[10:39] <Electrolyte> Obviously you're broken it.
[10:39] <Electrolyte> you've*
[10:40] <fannagoganna> gautam, what seems to be the problem?
[10:40] <gautam> dont think
[10:40] <gautam> i just installed it
[10:40] <fannagoganna> with adept, could you be more specific?
[10:40] <gautam> whenever i try to install
[10:40] <gautam> say for eg firefox
[10:40] <gautam> gives a break error
[10:40] <gautam> then wont install
[10:40] <gautam> dep. failed
[10:40] <fannagoganna> did you first do an adept upgrade?
[10:40] <fannagoganna> then an install/update?
[10:41] <gautam> yep
[10:41] <gautam> add repos too
[10:41] <Dr_willis> since both programs are front ends to the apt-get system... i would be impressed if synaptic works while adept faile...
[10:41] <fannagoganna> what are you using, Dapper or Edgy?
[10:41] <Dr_willis> or course you could use the shell and perhaps get some more error messages/info.
[10:41] <gautam> Dr will i know it is strange
[10:41] <gautam> but i never had issue with ubuntu
[10:41] <gautam> everything worked on it like a charm
[10:41] <gautam> dapper
[10:41] <Dr_willis> ive never had an issue with either. :)
[10:42] <Dr_willis> apt-get install synaptic            - and see.
[10:42] <fannagoganna> I wonder if you could try something -- run an apt-get install adept
[10:42] <Electrolyte> hahaha @ thingy :D
[10:43] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:43] <Dr_willis> I dont even hang in #ubuntu any more
[10:43] <Dr_willis> tooo many 'hold my hand and teach me linux fundamentals, i dont want to read' questions..
[10:43] <gautam> it says not found
[10:43] <gautam> :(
[10:44] <Dr_willis> !info adept
[10:44] <ubotu> adept: package management suite for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 2.1.1ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 11 kB, installed size 40 kB
[10:44] <thingy> I don't like trolling...but with a topic like that....I almost have an urge to go into #debian and pretent to be a newbie ubuntu fan boy and ask questions...just to annoy them. heh
[10:44] <fannagoganna> hmm, it's very hard for me to see what's going on without mucking around myself
[10:44] <Dr_willis> thingy,  im suprised that most ubuntu newbies would even know to go in there.
[10:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[10:45] <fannagoganna> perhaps they know IRC, but are newbies with respect to Linux, KDE, or (K)ubuntu
[10:45] <fannagoganna> it's not a crime
[10:45] <thingy> Dr_willis: Ironic that they chose to put that comment in the topic then.
[10:45] <fannagoganna> in fact, that's why Ubuntu was created -- for newbies
[10:45] <gautam> lets see how it goes
[10:45] <gautam> wish me luck
[10:45] <Dr_willis> thingy,  Linux is all about Irony. :)
[10:45] <gautam> i mostly use slackware
[10:45] <fannagoganna> frankly, I'm surprised sound support in Linux is still pure voodoo
[10:45] <gautam> or ubuntu
[10:46] <Dr_willis> Ive started to use slackware a few times.. but never could  get my self to actually use it.. other then a slax live cd or 2
[10:46] <thingy> fannagoganna: what! since when...Ive havent had to scarifice a goat to get sound working since...like 2 months ago!
[10:46] <gautam> i love slackware
[10:46] <fannagoganna> good for you :)
[10:46] <Dr_willis> I cant rember the last time i had a sound issue under linux.. :) but it pays to have a decent card.
[10:46] <fannagoganna> exactly, and therein lies the problem
[10:46] <Dr_willis> dont get me started on the WIRELESS problems i am having under WindowsXP.
[10:46] <fannagoganna> it should work on every card
[10:47] <Dr_willis> and It IS supported card/Os/whatever...
[10:47] <Dr_willis> actually ive had more sound issues under windows then linux.
[10:47] <Electrolyte> Same here.
[10:47] <fannagoganna> so is my cmipci card, and yet sound in is still a complete nightmare to get working
[10:47] <Electrolyte> I get so many blue screens under Windows.
[10:47] <Gecko> Hey there. I am experiencing an annoying lag on youtube, and possibly everything flash-related. Anyone know of this and got a fix?
[10:47] <fannagoganna> but in truth, all OS's are crap
[10:48] <Electrolyte> I wouldn't say that.
[10:48] <Electrolyte> I adore Kubuntu :)
[10:48] <fannagoganna> they're not what I would consider "good" unless they're as reliable as the human heart, and as intuitive to use as the human nipple
[10:48] <gautam> windows?
[10:48] <gautam> i call it winblows
[10:48] <gautam> lol
[10:48] <Electrolyte> Window$.
[10:48] <gautam> it is MS= MiroShit
[10:48] <gautam> lol
[10:49] <gautam> micro*
[10:49] <fdoving> !offtopic
[10:49] <ubotu> #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!
[10:49] <gautam> fdoving:  sorry
[10:49] <gautam> i think i need to install all lib files
[10:49] <gautam> anyway ty guys
[10:49] <fannagoganna> so gautam, if you want I can muck around through your system trying to fix your adept
[10:50] <gautam> have a gr8 day/night
[10:50] <Dr_willis> Besides slamming windows is too easy...
[10:50] <gautam> fannagoganna:  thanks man, i'll manage
[10:50] <gautam> :0
[10:50] <gautam> :)
[10:50] <gautam> later guys
[10:50] <fdoving> bye.
[10:52] <stephen> hello all
[10:52] <thingy> hello there cable dood!
[10:53] <stephen> Question to you all. Am I the only one that is having issues burning DVDs
[10:54] <Dr_willis> stephen,  ive burnt proberly 90+ dvd's this last month with no coasters...
[10:55] <stephen> Lucky you. I have upgraded two machines to edgy and neither of them can burn DVDs now.
[10:55] <Dr_willis> I never upgrade.. i always do clean installs.
[10:55] <stephen> They can read and burn CDs fine.
[10:55] <Acc\Deny> Hi. su on the command line works but something kdesu doesn't seem to work... therefore i can't use many things in KDE.
[10:55] <Dr_willis> sounds like the various dvd-burning-tools dident get set right.. run k3b from a terminal and see if any errors are shown?
[10:56] <stephen> I should rephrase. One was an upgrade, the other was a reinstall.
[10:56] <Acc\Deny> i would add here that i changed the root password by booting into the the 'recovery mode' console prompt
[10:57] <thingy> Acc\Deny: when you use kdesu which password are you typing in...and for gods sake don't type out the password here :-)
[10:58] <Dr_willis> why did you have to use the recovery mode for that?
[10:58] <Acc\Deny> thingy: hello! I type the password which works for su :)
[10:58] <Dr_willis> set the root and first users passwords to be the same. :)
[10:58] <thingy> Acc\Deny: su password not equal to sudo password and kdesu needs sudo password
[10:58] <thingy> Acc\Deny: sudo password = your login password
[10:58] <fdoving> Acc\Deny: you can configure kdesu to work with su, if you want.
[10:58] <thingy> Acc\Deny: oh and hello
[10:59] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: i somehow forgot to create a normal user during installation and when i booted i felt like i reached a dead end
[10:59] <Dr_willis> frogot? heh
[10:59] <Dr_willis> you dident use the live cd installer and make your first users name 'root' did you?
[11:00] <thingy> Acc\Deny:  how did that 845 install prob. turn out ?
[11:00] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: it was like the 5th install which FINALLY booted... i have been having all sorts of WEIRD problems.
[11:00] <Dr_willis> Acc\Deny,  eww....  thats odd...
[11:00] <Acc\Deny> thingy: luckily the vga=771 worked during text mode install... but still can't go beyond 800x600 into KDE.
[11:01] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: i m using the alternate install cd
[11:01] <Acc\Deny> into X *
[11:01] <Dr_willis> Acc\Deny,  yea - i always use that one also. ;)
[11:01] <Acc\Deny> I still am trying to figure out WHAT kind of brain invented this live installer CD... toooo Risky....!
[11:02] <MPS> is here someone running edgy on a HP nc6120?
[11:02] <Acc\Deny> my Kppp doesn't start either is this related to kdesu?
[11:02] <Dr_willis> theres way to many diffrent live-installer programs out.. a lot have some very good features.. but they need to get worked on.
[11:02] <Dr_willis> the idea of a live-cd-installcd- is handy however.. but i think it needs to be made a lot smarter.
[11:03] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: at least it should have a text MODE INSTALLER :)
[11:03] <Dr_willis> Acc\Deny,  i agree there.. and the live cd also includes some windows software (if you put the cd in a windows box) - which i feel wastes space.
[11:04] <Acc\Deny> thingy: how do i change the sudo password? how do i configure kdesu? :)
[11:04] <Dr_willis> and it should have some nice helper 'rescue me from my screwup' tools.
[11:04] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: ditto
[11:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:04] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: yup
[11:04] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: i think it also has no option for grub... not sure though...
[11:04] <thingy> Acc\Deny: do you have a user you can loginto kubunut as...other than root?
[11:04] <Dr_willis> I noticed the slax live cd. can be used to boot a cd image from a hard drive/usbstick. :)
[11:04] <Dr_willis> which is a neat trick..
[11:05] <Acc\Deny> thingy: yup
[11:05] <Dr_willis> but i think it can only boot  the slax mages..
[11:05] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: well i have been on knoppix lately... dunno about slax
[11:05] <Acc\Deny> thingy: thats how i get into KDE :)
[11:06] <Uh-Duh> Acc\Deny: sudo
[11:06] <Dr_willis> knoppix is handy :) slax has some neat tools that let you toss together a custome cd easially.
[11:06] <Uh-Duh> i need to reset sudo password.  how
[11:06] <Dr_willis> I liked that SaxonOS live cd.. it could then netboot OTHER machines  so with 1 live cd' ya could boot several on the network.
[11:07] <Acc\Deny> Uh-Duh: u mean i type that in a shell windows inside KDE?
[11:07] <Dr_willis> the 'sudo' password is the first users password isent it..
[11:07] <thingy> Acc\Deny: to give this user sudo privs...type in "adduser yoursuername admin" as the root user...this will put the user in the admin group and now you can use sudo/kdesu etc
[11:07] <Acc\Deny> 0_o
[11:08] <Acc\Deny> aah!
[11:08] <Acc\Deny> add him in the admin group
[11:08] <Uh-Duh> i need to reset sudo password
[11:08] <thingy> Uh-Duh: sudo password == your username's password...so simply login as your user and in the konsole type in passwd and specify a new password
[11:09] <Uh-Duh> Dr_willis: that user no longer exists
[11:09] <Dr_willis> painted yourself into a corner eh?
[11:09] <Uh-Duh> thingy, that user no longer exists
[11:09] <Uh-Duh> well, drive crash
[11:09] <Uh-Duh> and that user profile is not moved over
[11:09] <Acc\Deny> Now the second thing is modem :) I have to keep coming into windoz to google and freenode...
[11:09] <Uh-Duh> that part of the profile is gone
[11:09] <Dr_willis> profile?
[11:10] <Acc\Deny> kppp doesn't start in my case at all
[11:10] <Uh-Duh>  /home
[11:10] <Acc\Deny> no error boxes
[11:10] <stephen> Well no errors are reported by kde.
[11:10] <Acc\Deny> nothing on dmesg
[11:10] <Uh-Duh> dale beams
[11:10] <Uh-Duh> are you here ?
[11:11] <stephen> When I put the burnt cd into the drive the syslog contains
[11:11] <ehird> um
[11:11] <stephen> Nov 11 21:56:51 orion kernel: [92920.192000]  cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!
[11:11] <stephen> Nov 11 21:56:51 orion NetworkManager: <debug info>^I[1163282211.427627]  nm_hal_device_added (): New device added (hal udi is '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/volume_empty_dvd_plus_r
[11:11] <stephen> ').
[11:11] <thingy> Uh-Duh: who are you addressing...type their name before you message or in you msg
[11:11] <ehird> i ctrl+c'd apt-get for... reasons
[11:11] <ehird> and now my whole FS is read-only
[11:11] <ehird> ... help
[11:11] <Acc\Deny> lspci does display something about the modem though...
[11:11] <ehird> =(
[11:12] <Dr_willis> ehird,  you seem to manage to do things... i cant even IMAGINE doing...
[11:12] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:12] <ehird> Dr_willis: I have no idea how i did it.
[11:13] <ehird> ButIknowI'lldieifitisn'tfixedsoon.
[11:13] <fdoving> ehird: is it mounted read-only?
[11:13] <ehird> fdoving: apparently, since everything says "OMG READ ONLY FILESYSTEM"
[11:13] <fdoving> ehird: 'sudo mount -o remount,rw /'
[11:13] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:13] <Chris7mas> hi
[11:13] <ehird> yeah.
[11:13] <Acc\Deny> well guyz, is installing modem tougher than getting Xorg to work? :)
[11:14] <ehird> ... i guess there's no fix for stupidity? :p
[11:14] <Chris7mas> how to restart the x server in kubuntu edgy? (alt+ctrl+backspace doesn't work anymore)
[11:14] <Dr_willis> Acc\Deny,  depends on the modem.
[11:14] <Dr_willis> Acc\Deny,  i got some 'real' external serial modems that are trivial to get going
[11:14] <fdoving> Chris7mas: logout, select the menu icon -> restart X.
[11:14] <ehird> ... sudo mount -a doesn't work
[11:15] <fdoving> ehird: you shouldn't use mount -a either, 'sudo mount -o remount,rw /'
[11:15] <Chris7mas> fdoving i need only the keyboard
[11:15] <Chris7mas> because this ut2004demo has a bug that freezes the system (graphic and mouse) but the keyboard works
[11:16] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: well i have a PCI soft-modem; thats what windows call it
[11:16] <Chris7mas> so i have to restart the x server from the keyboard
[11:16] <ehird> thank god.
[11:16] <ehird> that works
[11:16] <Dr_willis> Acc\Deny,  so in other words you have a 'no-idea-if-linux-even-supports-it-modem' :)
[11:17] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: Precisely :)
[11:17] <thingy> Acc\Deny: He likes to setup challenges in his adventure with linux...first the Intel 845 motherboard from hell...and now an unknown modem... :-)
[11:17] <thingy> oops wrong person
[11:18] <thingy> that was for willis
[11:18] <Dr_willis> i cant even imagine using Dialup......
[11:18] <Dr_willis> :)
[11:18] <Acc\Deny> thingy: I assure you I am not that an adventurist or challengist ;)
[11:18] <thingy> Acc\Deny: masochist then :-)
[11:19] <Acc\Deny> thingy: perhaps ****ed up by circumstances might be better description :)
[11:20] <it06158> hello.how can i add the desktop icons on kubuntu???
[11:20] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: my other wireless broadband conn has no linux drivers in CD... I feel installing it would be tougher than a modem.
[11:20] <thingy> Acc\Deny: here...start by investigating whether the modem will work or not... http://linmodems.org/
[11:21] <Dr_willis> Acc\Deny,  it all depends on the exact card/chipset on the card.
[11:21] <Acc\Deny> ok
[11:21] <thingy> it06158: right click on the KDE icon in the panel and select menu editor
[11:21] <Dr_willis> dont people use normal wired networks these days? :)
[11:21] <Acc\Deny> thingy: nice description of 845 ... "the board from hell" :)
[11:22] <Acc\Deny> Dr_willis: i dont have an eth connection possibilty at home for the moment... only at work
[11:22] <Acc\Deny> eth=ethernet...
[11:22] <it06158> thingy: where is that KDE icon?
[11:23] <thingy> oh man!
[11:23] <it06158> thingy: im using suse friend.ok i found it
[11:23] <thingy> it06158: on your screen...lower left hand corner...ah ok...heh
[11:23] <ehird> WHAT THE HELL
[11:23] <ehird> MY FS IS READONLY AGAIN
[11:23] <fdoving> !language | ehird
[11:23] <ubotu> ehird: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:24] <ubuntu> ciao a tutti
[11:24] <Acc\Deny> ehird: SPANK IT :)
[11:24] <fdoving> !caps | ehird
[11:24] <ubotu> ehird: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[11:24] <otaku-san> ok for some reason my screensaver just won't work...I set it to come up as the Swarm one...and it just comes up all black and after awile a big white X windows icon pops up....what the heck?
[11:24] <it06158> ..
[11:25] <ubuntu> qualche italiano_
[11:25] <fdoving> ehird: i suggest a fsck. it's set to remount to read only, on errors.
[11:25] <thingy> ehird: and inform us what you were doing just before the hdd mounted ro
[11:26] <ancientone> Hi.
[11:26] <ancientone> I'm having some trouble with sudo on my Kubuntu Dapper.
[11:27] <ancientone> It won't work. Any programs that use it say "Sudo returned an error" or "Conversation with su failed."
[11:27] <Acc\Deny> ancientone: also have a look at http://consistencies.net/20051018/fixing-kdesu-problems-in-kubuntu/
[11:27] <thingy> ancientone: also, why still on dapper?
[11:27] <ancientone> thingy: Is Edgy considered stable yet?
[11:28] <thingy> ancientone: its fixes stuff wrong in dapper for a start...and introduces new ones to replace them :-) but to answer your question...your experience with it will be different from mine...
[11:29] <ancientone> thingy: OK, I have two desktops, and one runs Edgy. The other runs Dapper.
[11:29] <ancientone> thingy: But the one with Dapper has some stuff on it I don't want to lose, so how do I upgrade without formatting the partition?
[11:29] <fdoving> Chris7mas: you can logout and restart X with kdm, with the keyboard, alt+f1, type 'log' to select logout hit enter, then use tab to select 'end current session' hit space, then hit 'alt+e' to restart X.
[11:29] <thingy> is there a !upgrade ?
[11:30] <thingy> !upgrade
[11:30] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[11:30] <thingy> ah
[11:30] <thingy> there is
[11:30] <thingy> ancientone: but please...do backup your stuff before you do anything
[11:34] <ancientone> Yeah, I upgraded by modding sources.list once. It busted my ndiswrapper and X.Org, so I had to reinstall.
[11:35] <thingy> ancientone: do you have a seperate /home partition?
[11:35] <thingy> ancientone: i mean do you keep /home in its own part.
[11:37] <Linux_Galore> ancientone: let me get this right, you reinstalled because of two text files not being right ??
[11:38] <Linux_Galore> ancientone: yes that all you had to do, setup two (2) text files and org and ndiswrapper would have worked
[11:38] <klerfayt> keyboard layouts aren't ins sytem settings?
[11:38] <Linux_Galore> s/org/xorg/
[11:38] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: start kcontrol  menu->run  type kcontrol  its there
[11:39] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: nothing
[11:39] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: just type kcontrol in a terminal then
[11:41] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: if you want to edit the media keys install keytouch
[11:41] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: empty http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7694/pilt1ki3.png
[11:41] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: ?? thats not kcontrol
[11:42] <phlegyas_> hi there everybody :)
[11:42] <ancientone> Linux_Galore: Not exactly, I was in console mode stuck without internet or a display manager. Ndiswrapper was fundamentally screwed, and X.org was too, from what I could see.
[11:42] <phlegyas_> hope all 's going well :) :) :)
[11:42] <ancientone> thingy: No, just a /boot and a /.
[11:42] <phlegyas_> is joe here today ???? :D
[11:43] <ancientone> thingy: And swap.
[11:43] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: it is also empty in kcontrol
[11:43] <phlegyas_> I have a question if there's anyone here who could perhaps help me. Can you pinpoint me to a wiki explaining how to import OUTLOOK data to KONTACT?
[11:43] <joe3k> phlegyas_: actually is
[11:44] <phlegyas_> heheeeeeeeeeeeee joey!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
[11:44] <ancientone> OK, I've gotta get sudo working before I can use update-manager.
[11:44] <thingy> ancientone: hmm if possible in the future consider keeping a /home part as well...they allow flexibility and seperate your data from the os...
[11:44] <phlegyas_> how are you my lord? :)
[11:44] <ancientone> thingy: 99% of the programs I have are in /usr.
[11:44] <thingy> ancientone: manually source compiled ones?
[11:44] <joe3k> phlegyas_: hehe ;)
[11:45] <phlegyas_> joe do you happen to know that thing perhaps? how to import data from a PST file into KONTACT?
[11:45] <ancientone> thingy: My programs are almost all installed in /usr/lib, /usr/share, /usr/share/apps/
[11:45] <joe3k> phlegyas_: .pst contains contacts?
[11:45] <ancientone> That's where APT put's 'em, that's where make install puts 'em.
[11:46] <ancientone> That's where dpkg -i puts 'em.
[11:46] <ancientone> That's where they go. :\
[11:46] <phlegyas_> PST from outlook containing everything JOE. like mail contacts meetings etc..
[11:46] <joe3k> phlegyas_: if you still have outlook try to export it into csv
[11:47] <joe3k> phlegyas_: i did it once for contacts it worked, but it at least 4 yrs now
[11:47] <phlegyas_> unfortunately i dont joe. i had it put into pst and then clear-installed kubuntu
[11:47] <joe3k> phlegyas_: did you google for it?
[11:47] <phlegyas_> wow hahahah 4 years uh? i dont even know if i have the patience to keep linux for 4 years QR
[11:47] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: looks like something is missing
[11:47] <phlegyas_> i am as we speak joe :)
[11:47] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: ie a package
[11:47] <ancientone> OK, I'm going to go upgrade this thing from the only user with sudo abilities.
[11:48] <joe3k> i have one q as well
[11:48] <phlegyas_> my Konqueror doesnt behave
[11:48] <joe3k> has anybody exp wirh configuring udev? i can't get my rules working
[11:48] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: best I can do without actually being on the machine is check adept and search under kde see whats missing
[11:48] <fdoving> joe3k: what rules?
[11:48] <Linux_Galore> phlegyas_: then spank it
[11:49] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: xxkb maybe
[11:49] <thingy> joe3k: is this the ir/joystick/mouse issue you were having?
[11:49] <joe3k> fdoving: my ir on tuner card gets kinda random /dev/input/eventX numbers
[11:49] <joe3k> thingy: exactly
[11:49] <thingy> joe3k: ah so your are the |'s guy! :-)
[11:49] <joe3k> i set up the rules but somehow they get ignored
[11:49] <klerfayt> anyone know what package has keyboard layouts for kde?
[11:49] <joe3k> thingy: yeah i finally registered my nick :)
[11:49] <fdoving> joe3k: where do you put the rules?
[11:50] <fdoving> joe3k: http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html is good reading.
[11:50] <joe3k> i do udevinfo -a -p /sys/class/input/input3/
[11:50] <joe3k> fdoving: followed that but no success
[11:50] <joe3k> i get SUBSYSTEM=="input"
[11:50] <joe3k> SYSFS{name}=="saa7134 IR _LifeView FlyVIDEO30"
[11:50] <joe3k> then i create udev rule in /etc/udev/rules.d
[11:51] <joe3k> KERNEL=="input[0-9] *", SYSFS{name}=="saa7134 IR*", SYMLINK+="input/saa7134ir"
[11:51] <thingy> joe3k: did you come across this thread: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168221&highlight=udev+rules
[11:51] <joe3k> well currently i have KERNEL but i tried SUBSYSTEM and other stuff
[11:51] <joe3k> andthe rule does not come up in udevtest
[11:52] <fdoving> joe3k: do you add your rules before everything else or after?
[11:53] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: try sudo kcontrol
[11:53] <joe3k> fdoving: it's 50, so somewhere in the middle
[11:53] <joe3k> 51
[11:53] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: might be a permissions thing
[11:53] <joe3k> oh now i maybe got it
[11:54] <joe3k> maybe the /class/input/xxx entries are created only in 65-persistent-input.rules
[11:54] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: also empty
[11:54] <joe3k> fdoving: could it be the problem?
[11:55] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: package is supposed to be Kxkb, but I don't see any in adept
[11:56] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: I dont have it either
[11:57] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: is it also empty in kcontrol?
[11:57] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: nope
[11:57] <joe3k> heh moving to 66 didn't help
[11:58] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: did you setup kcontrol->Region & Access->Country/Region
[11:59] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: no
[11:59] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: well thats a start
[11:59] <thingy> joe3k: did you see the ubuntu thread about udev rules writing?
[11:59] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: I have and I see everything
[11:59] <joe3k> thingy: haven't read to end yet
[11:59] <klerfayt> hmm I have to log out now
[12:01] <joe3k> phlegyas_: if you'd have outlook this could be interesting http://outport.sourceforge.net/
[12:01] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: it's empty...
[12:01] <thingy> klerfayt: can you try logging as a different(possibly newly created) user and check if its still empty
[12:02] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: it shouldnt be empty
[12:02] <joe3k> phlegyas_: this could be now more of help http://alioth.debian.org/projects/libpst/, but it's only in beta
[12:02] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: select a country
[12:03] <PsiKloPx> anyone have any experience with NO_PUBKEY errors in update and synaptic package manager?
[12:05] <Linux_Galore> PsiKloPx: means you need to download one
[12:05] <joe3k> thingy: well nothing "new" in that thread in comparison with the "writing udev rules"
[12:05] <Linux_Galore> PsiKloPx: and set it up
[12:05] <Linux_Galore> PsiKloPx: for the repository you have added
[12:06] <thingy> joe3k: ah so you think the rule is fine but its not being enforced?
[12:06] <fdoving> joe3k: 60-symlinks is also a good reference. that's other symlinking stuff.
[12:06] <joe3k> thingy: if i mess the rule, udevtest complains
[12:07] <joe3k> thingy: and if i write it correctly it just seems to be ignored
[12:08] <joe3k> i gotta be missing something here
[12:08] <Linux_Galore> PsiKloPx: usually its a two stage thing, good example is adding the new amarok repository ( http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.4.php ) as you can see there is two steps to add a key noted
[12:08] <thingy> joe3k: can i look at the rules file? pastebin it?
[12:09] <thingy> joe3k: i have no experience in it..but just wanna see it
[12:09] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: ok I created a new user
[12:09] <joe3k> thingy: hmm ok what is pastebin :)
[12:10] <joe3k> thingy: slow paste or what?
[12:10] <thingy> joe3k: hmm i thought the channel topic had a pastebin url...just checking
[12:10] <PsiKloPx> LG: Thanx!  That took care of it!  I just hadda find the right key.
[12:10] <fdoving> joe3k: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:11] <thingy> joe3k: you can paste large sections of text to a pastebin service like fdoving said
[12:11] <thingy> joe3k: it will give  a url whcih we can then look at
[12:11] <joe3k> ok
[12:11] <joe3k> thnx
[12:11] <Linux_Galore> PsiKloPx: yeah usually the key files are in the root of the repository
[12:12] <joe3k> thingy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31075/ is the udevinfo output