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| kgoetz | crimsun: i presume CLI games dont need a .desktop file, even though you cann launch them in a terminal? | 12:04 |
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| crimsun | depends how you launch them | 12:05 |
| crimsun | x-terminal-emulator -e 'foo' ? | 12:05 |
| seb128 | kgoetz: mass filing about? | 12:05 |
| crimsun | "...80 patches to supply .desktop files" | 12:06 |
| kgoetz | seb128: missing .desktop files, and half a dozen packages with broken dependancies | 12:06 |
| crimsun | those really should go upstream | 12:06 |
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| crimsun | upstream upstream, that is (not Debian) | 12:07 |
| kgoetz | further upstreawm? :( but but but.... | 12:08 |
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| kgoetz | so 'upstream' means the people who ship the tar.orig? | 12:09 |
| crimsun | aye | 12:10 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71284 in kdebase (main) "Browsing USB hard drive with Konqueror makes it readonly" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71284 | 12:10 |
| kgoetz | in all honesty, that sounds worse then filing the bugs in lp\/debian/bugs | 12:11 |
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| crimsun | the benefit's much more significant | 12:14 |
| crimsun | that means everyone downstream of the authors gets the .desktop for free | 12:15 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71285 in firefox (main) "Firefox crashes all the time at http://wiki.ubuntu.com" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71285 | 12:15 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71286 in nevow (main) "Nevow should be in universe, not main" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71286 | 12:15 |
| kgoetz | i suppose these bugs will get filed over the next fwe months as i sign up to countless bts's :| | 12:16 |
| kgoetz | sory to ask again, i'm nto sure if the answer happened: shoudl i file a bug on something like bsdgames because the games dont appear in ht emenu (no .desktop file), but they are cli games, so should they? | 12:17 |
| crimsun | kgoetz: imo, no. | 12:19 |
| crimsun | feel free to beg to differ; that's just my persp. | 12:19 |
| kgoetz | crimsun: no, your opinions great - i dont need another 10 desktop files ;P | 12:20 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71287 in mol (universe) "USB mouse in console (fullscreen) mode generates keyboard events" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71287 | 12:25 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71288 in amarok (main) "Amarok collection scanner is crashing during collection refreshing." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71288 | 12:30 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71289 in openoffice.org-amd64 (main) "No panel display for controls and forms" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71289 | 12:30 |
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| shwag | ~/.bash_profile says "the default umask is set in /etc/login.defs" , but I changed the the UMASK setting in login.defs, and $ umask , still says 022 | 12:43 |
| seb128 | do you use gdm? | 12:45 |
| shwag | no | 12:53 |
| kgoetz | is a binary having an uppsercase name a bug? or doesnt it matter if it has a .desktop? | 12:53 |
| kgoetz | (sorry to ask all these questions here) | 12:53 |
| Burgwork | kgoetz: which one? | 12:54 |
| kgoetz | Burgwork: 'searchandrescue', package in universe | 12:55 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71291 in yudit (universe) "Please sync yudit (universe) from unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71291 | 01:00 |
| Burgwork | kgoetz: hmm, no idea off the top of my head | 01:01 |
| kgoetz | ok, i'll probably file a bug some time then | 01:01 |
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| seb128 | kgoetz: you should probably not massive bug for .desktop | 01:04 |
| seb128 | kgoetz: that's the sort of bugs that should go upstream | 01:05 |
| kgoetz | seb128: ok. i'll try and do that | 01:05 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71292 in nagios-plugins-extra (universe) "plugin `check_radius' is in two non-conflicting packages" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71292 | 01:05 |
| seb128 | shipping .desktop to packages is usually a bad idea | 01:06 |
| seb128 | they are poorly translated | 01:06 |
| kgoetz | but needed to launch stuff (?) | 01:06 |
| seb128 | not really | 01:07 |
| seb128 | you have the "run app" dialog | 01:07 |
| seb128 | the debian menu | 01:07 |
| seb128 | the command line | 01:07 |
| seb128 | but right, desktop apps should have a .desktop | 01:07 |
| seb128 | and those .desktop should be shipped by upstream so they can be translated properly | 01:08 |
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| kgoetz | mk. moral: just go upstream already :) | 01:10 |
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| shwag | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/bash/+bug/71294 | 01:17 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 71294 in bash ".bash_profile erronous msg" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 01:17 |
| shwag | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/shadow/+bug/71295 | 01:19 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 71295 in shadow "/etc/login.defs umask cleanup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] | 01:19 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71293 in xserver-xgl (universe) "set session to xgl, started session, crash back to gdm." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71293 | 01:20 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71294 in bash (main) ".bash_profile erronous msg" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71294 | 01:25 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71295 in shadow (main) "/etc/login.defs umask cleanup" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71295 | 01:25 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71296 in evolution-exchange (main) "Evolution: Slow to Start - Slow to Sync - Sync to Quit" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71296 | 01:36 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71297 in Ubuntu "Bluetooth in ubuntu Edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71297 | 01:36 |
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| kgoetz | hi bddebian | 01:39 |
| bddebian | Hello kgoetz | 01:39 |
| kgoetz | :) | 01:40 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71298 in gparted (main) "Gparted in edgy version" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71298 | 01:47 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71299 in boson-base (universe) "boson has incorrect dependancies" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71299 | 01:47 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71300 in bluez-utils (main) "Problem connect bluetooth in ubuntu edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71300 | 01:51 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71301 in bluez-utils (main) "Problem connect bluetooth in ubuntu edgy" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71301 | 01:51 |
| theCore | whoa, who is that fast... | 01:51 |
| theCore | already marked dup... | 01:52 |
| kgoetz | darn, you beat me to it :/ | 01:54 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71302 in searchandrescue (universe) "search and rescue binary has starting capital letter" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71302 | 01:56 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71304 in gnome-system-tools (main) "changing x keyboard layout does not change console keyboard layout" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71304 | 02:10 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71305 in Ubuntu "fails to launch php5-cli" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71305 | 02:25 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71306 in firefox (main) "Firefox 2.0 positions menus bad (at least with Xinerama)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71306 | 02:40 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71308 in sarien (universe) "Crash on start." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71308 | 03:25 |
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| cge | What do I do with a bug like #6500? According to the wiki, I should close it, because it is a request for changes in defaults. But people here have told me I should leave it as a wishlist. What does confirming mean in this context? | 03:45 |
| dsas | bug 6500 | 03:46 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 6500 in vim "Syntax Highlighting Should be On by Default in vim-perl" [Wishlist,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/6500 | 03:46 |
| cge | I'm on a mission to get the bug situation for vim looking as good as possible, but there are three bugs that are requests for changes in .vimrc like that one. | 03:48 |
| CarlFK | FF - Plugin Finder Servie dislog, "Macromedia Flash Player" | 03:51 |
| CarlFK | is that a "firefox extensions not distributed w/ Ubuntu." ? | 03:51 |
| cge | what do you mean? | 03:51 |
| CarlFK | it is the 'cause' of bug 1280 | 03:52 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 1280 in baz "feature request: baz missing --in VERSION" [Medium,Fix released] http://launchpad.net/bugs/1280 | 03:52 |
| CarlFK | hm, not. | 03:52 |
| CarlFK | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/71280 | 03:52 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 71280 in firefox "crash url" [Low,Rejected] | 03:52 |
| dsas | cge: I'm not sure what to do, it may be worth talking to whoever touched the package last for ubuntu. | 03:52 |
| CarlFK | "We can't support any firefox extensions not distributed w/ Ubuntu. I'm closing the bug here, and would suggest reporting it to the extension creator" | 03:52 |
| cge | CarlFK: It means that it is really difficult to debug firefox when there are extensions causing problems, and we don't support them. | 03:53 |
| CarlFK | is "Macromedia Flash Player" such an extension ? | 03:54 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71271 in grub (main) "Ubuntu patched Grub doesn't work with 2.4 kernel" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71271 | 03:55 |
| cge | CarlFK: Flash will reliably crash Firefox in edgy, yes. But your questions would be better suited to #ubuntu. | 03:56 |
| crimsun | (I think CarlFK is asking for triaging.) | 03:57 |
| CarlFK | crimsun: yup | 03:57 |
| cge | CarlFK: oh | 03:57 |
| crimsun | and as the person who has triaged most flashplugin-nonfree bugs, please reject them | 03:57 |
| cge | crimsun: I think everyone's closed at least one. | 03:57 |
| crimsun | yeah, it's not terribly rare :-) | 03:58 |
| cge | crimsun: We need an alert to pop up when the user tries to file a bug about firefox. | 03:58 |
| CarlFK | is flashplugin-nonfree what gets installed when you do the "plugin finder, Macromedia Flash Player" ? | 03:59 |
| cge | CarlFK: No, the plugin finder doesn't work, as far as I know. | 03:59 |
| crimsun | CarlFK: no, people have to choose to install f-n | 03:59 |
| cge | CarlFK: And then they're punished for their sins by having Firefox crash whenever they try to use flash :) | 04:00 |
| CarlFK | ok, so if the P-Finder is the only thing that was done, and FF now just closes.. whos problem ? | 04:00 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71309 in gnome-applets (main) "Can't Recover Files Sent to Trash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71309 | 04:01 |
| cge | CarlFK: You installed Flash. That is why it closes. See bug 14911. | 04:01 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 14911 in firefox "Flash plugin problem with ARGB visuals causes crash" [Unknown,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/14911 | 04:01 |
| CarlFK | cge - yup - trying the workarounds now | 04:04 |
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| CarlFK | yup - this 'fixes' - XLIB_SKIP_ARGB_VISUALS=1 firefox | 04:05 |
| cge | Is there some reason that can't be put in /usr/bin/firefox? Does skipping argb visuals have side effects? | 04:06 |
| CarlFK | "... wrapper script ... That way at least people who aren't using buggy proprietary software don't have to lose the ARGB functionality semi-at-random." | 04:07 |
| CarlFK | https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/14911/comments/29 | 04:07 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 14911 in firefox "Flash plugin problem with ARGB visuals causes crash" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 04:07 |
| cge | CarlFK: I don't know what the argb functionality is, though. | 04:07 |
| CarlFK | me neither, but apparently Ian does and thinks it is important :) | 04:08 |
| cge | Oh, this has been known since 2004 (http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xorg/2004-August/002300.html) | 04:08 |
| cge | CarlFK: I think that the main point is to punish Flash users. | 04:09 |
| CarlFK | heh | 04:09 |
| CarlFK | how do I mark 71280 a dupe of 14911 ? | 04:09 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #70376 in Ubuntu "Optical mouse turns off when ubuntu starts" [Undecided,Needs info] http://launchpad.net/bugs/70376 | 04:10 |
| cge | #71820 | 04:10 |
| cge | bug 71820 | 04:10 |
| cge | bug 71280 | 04:10 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 71280 in firefox "crash url" [Low,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71280 | 04:10 |
| cge | You don't need to, it has already been rejected. | 04:10 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71310 in ubiquity (main) "Installer crash on GRUB, sda. Similar to bugs #71143, 71099, 71046, 71036?" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71310 | 04:40 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71312 in synaptic (main) "Can't "lock/hold" packages anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71312 | 04:40 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71311 in openoffice.org (main) "Open Office.org crashes when selecting a jpg image" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71311 | 04:47 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71313 in gnumeric (main) "gnumeric, abiword fail to open remote file opened through sftp" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71313 | 04:47 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71314 in synaptic (main) "GUI useability might benefit from a horizontal design rather than vertical" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71314 | 04:50 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71315 in firefox (main) "Crash with totem when opening an MPG link" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71315 | 05:47 |
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| towsonu2003 | hi | 05:49 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71316 in totem (main) "thumbnailer crashes on Real Media file" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71316 | 05:51 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71317 in menu-xdg (main) "xubuntu: all debian menu entries in 'Other'" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71317 | 05:51 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #68987 in xen-3.0 (universe) "kernel panic on boot (amd64)" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68987 | 06:06 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71318 in linux-source-2.6.19 (main) "Kernel becomes idle during boot process" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71318 | 06:15 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71319 in gmpc (universe) "Wrong System Tray Icon Background color" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71319 | 06:25 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71320 in firefox (main) "FF crashed and It generated an "crash" report, info inside.." [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71320 | 06:40 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71321 in firefox (main) "Firefox tries to download .php files" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71321 | 06:47 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71322 in aspell (main) "reproducible seg fault in 'apell' when using 'eo_XX.UTF-8' locale" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71322 | 07:31 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71323 in qcad (universe) "Hatching with preview crashes QCAD" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71323 | 08:10 |
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| BHSPitMonkey | weird | 08:33 |
| BHSPitMonkey | when you turn the volume all the way down, it's supposed to be mute, right? | 08:34 |
| BHSPitMonkey | yeah... it is | 08:34 |
| BHSPitMonkey | my volume icon even says "Muted" | 08:34 |
| BHSPitMonkey | but sound's still a-playin' | 08:34 |
| ivoks | laptop? | 08:34 |
| BHSPitMonkey | desktop | 08:34 |
| BHSPitMonkey | it's quieter than the louder settings | 08:35 |
| BHSPitMonkey | but this is the minimum... and it thinks it's muted | 08:35 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71324 in openoffice.org (main) "Right to Left Combo box not organized" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71324 | 09:05 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71325 in linux-source-2.6.17 (main) "lirc-modules-source build instructions not very clear" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71325 | 09:10 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71326 in gaim (main) "yahoo contacts "not in the server list" while they are" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71326 | 09:20 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71328 in soundconverter (universe) "Please sync soundconverter (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Confirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71328 | 09:51 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71329 in totem (main) "totem crash" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71329 | 09:56 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71330 in mesa-utils (main) "Just installed latest NVIDIA driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9629-pkg1.run" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71330 | 10:05 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71332 in nvidia-settings (restricted) "Just installed latest NVIDIA driver NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-9629-pkg1.run" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71332 | 10:25 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71333 in ubiquity (main) "Bug" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71333 | 10:25 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71334 in gaim (main) "Gaim crashed after login back" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71334 | 10:30 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71335 in vino (main) "vino server fails to launch on 6.10 command line => 6.10 Xubuntu installation" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71335 | 10:35 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71336 in gnome-system-tools (main) "service-admin doesn't launch" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71336 | 10:40 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71337 in hal (main) "gnome-power-manager issues with HAL reports on Asus M6Ne" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71337 | 10:47 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71338 in iceauth (main) "iceauth crashed" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71338 | 11:00 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71339 in human-theme (main) "Human theme puts an arrow on all columns in ListViews" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71339 | 11:15 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71341 in cobex (universe) "cobex_get manpage is low quality" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71341 | 11:20 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71342 in openoffice.org (main) "Evolution crashes when deleting an email" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71342 | 11:30 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71343 in Ubuntu "Ubuntu 6.10, cannot switch user" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71343 | 11:47 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71346 in Ubuntu "Speed Step (cool'n'quiet) doesn't work in Edgy anymore" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71346 | 12:10 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71347 in evolution (main) "It`s everyime when I starting Gnome" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71347 | 12:15 |
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| Ubugtu | New bug: #71344 in nautilus (main) "[Edgy] The Gnome in Nautilus has very small feet" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71344 | 12:21 |
| Ubugtu | New bug: #71345 in control-center (main) "Theme-manager crashes" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/71345 | 12:21 |
| Simira | is Xorg supposed to spend about 200m of virtual memory? | 01:20 |
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| fdoving | Simira: yes. 221M virt here.. | 02:43 |
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| rpedro | hello | 03:01 |
| rpedro | can someone help me get some debug info from HAL? I'm not even sure how to restart it without a reboot :/ | 03:02 |
| rpedro | Bug #68574 | 03:02 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 68574 in hal "Issue with (mostly) fat32 devices, and HAL fails to even initialize after new login" [Undecided,Unconfirmed] http://launchpad.net/bugs/68574 | 03:02 |
| rpedro | that bug ^^ | 03:02 |
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| bddebian | Boo | 05:18 |
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