[12:18] <shwag> what does it take to make changes to  /etc/login.defs  take effect ?
[12:33] <shwag> I guess i found an instance where linux is required to be rebooted.
[12:39] <shwag> ~/.bash_profile says "the default umask is set in /etc/login.defs" , but I changed the the UMASK setting in login.defs, and  $ umask , still says 022
[03:47] <Ries> hey gius, where can I find information how to use libapache2-mod-fcgid together with php5?
[03:47] <Ries> I have followed a couple of modfgi manuals but thet don't seems to do teh job with libapache2-mod-fcgid
[08:23] <mustafa> hi
[08:23] <mustafa> i dont want apache to start automatically
[10:07] <Kim^J> Hi all. How much MB does the server 6.06 install take?
[10:08] <Kim^J> zenrox: Come come here and answer my question.
[10:10] <zenrox> mb of what
[10:10] <zenrox> ram
[10:10] <Kim^J> HDdd
[10:10] <Kim^J> HDD*
[10:10] <zenrox> 2 gig
[10:10] <Kim^J> WHAT?!
[10:10] <zenrox> 4 gigs once you install all the differnt servers you want
[10:10] <Kim^J> What in the name of the devil does it install that takes 2gig ???
[10:11] <zenrox> i have a remote gui
[10:11] <zenrox> so i have to have xserver installed
[10:11] <Kim^J> Oh... Well I just want LAMP, SSH, FTP, Samba, MPD, Shoutcast and some more little things... That CAN NOT take 2 gig. Can it?
[10:19] <dura> use X11 over ssh 
[10:19] <dura> no need for a GUI on the server
[10:20] <Kim^J> dura: Does the standard install of 6.06 server really take 2gig?
[10:20] <dura> hmm no I don't think so.
[10:20] <dura> let me check one...
[10:21] <Kim^J> ok
[10:21] <Kim^J> I thinking of have a 1 gig / partion...
[10:21] <dura> I have one setup with LAMP and postfix and it's around 1.3gb
[10:21] <Kim^J> ok
[10:21] <Kim^J> hmm... strange... my debian with lamp, ssh, samba is about 300 MB.
[10:22] <Kim^J> 442MB
[10:25] <Kim^J> about 500 MB is minimum
[11:23] <shawarma> I know this is not a support channel, but could anyone with experience with having / on LVM on top of software raid please take a look a this: http://warma.dk/blog/index.php?/archives/61-Remote-Ubuntu-installation.html ? Just /msg me if you want to keep it out of this channel.