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| rudal | hi hi... is it ok to shoot a question in here? | 02:53 |
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| _ion | You already did. :-) | 02:55 |
| rudal | lol | 02:56 |
| rudal | :) hmm actually if that's ok with you guys,,,hmm i tried upgrading sysvinit to upstart | 02:56 |
| rudal | using edgy ..so right now..apparnetly the machine does not come back up | 02:57 |
| rudal | i looked around..they said that you need to use 'reboot -f' ? | 02:57 |
| _ion | You might have packages missing. | 02:57 |
| _ion | sudo apt-get install ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard | 02:57 |
| rudal | even though I already did apt-get install upstart ? | 02:58 |
| _ion | Upstart just starts stuff, the other upstart-related packages contain the information about stuff that should be started. Every Ubuntu system should have ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard installed. For some reason for other, your system might be missing them/ | 02:59 |
| rudal | ic | 02:59 |
| _ion | Are you able to login to the system? | 03:00 |
| Seveas | it probably doesn't even boot | 03:00 |
| Seveas | install the ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-base packages | 03:00 |
| rudal | yeah it doesnt boot :P | 03:00 |
| rudal | hahaha | 03:00 |
| _ion | Do you get a root prompt? | 03:00 |
| Seveas | I hade the same during an interrupted upgrade | 03:00 |
| rudal | not at all | 03:00 |
| rudal | just a hang | 03:00 |
| Seveas | _ion, without upstart-sysv-compat you get basically nothing | 03:01 |
| Seveas | boot from a livecd, mount the harddisk, chroot into it and install the packages I mentioned | 03:01 |
| _ion | Ok, in grub, add init=/bin/bash to the kernel parameters. | 03:01 |
| _ion | Then, when you get a prompt, run: /etc/init.d/rcS; /etc/init.d/rc 2 | 03:01 |
| Seveas | _ion, heh, going the hard way ;) | 03:01 |
| _ion | seveas: You mean the easy way? | 03:02 |
| Seveas | isn't /etc/init.d/rc in the sysv-compat package? | 03:02 |
| _ion | Then install ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard | 03:02 |
| _ion | It's in sysv-rc | 03:02 |
| Seveas | hmmm | 03:02 |
| rudal | ohhh .. yeah currently doing an install on ubuntu-standard now | 03:02 |
| rudal | i just used the livecd | 03:03 |
| _ion | I'm quite sure he has sysv-rc installed. | 03:03 |
| Seveas | yeah, that should still be there | 03:03 |
| rudal | yeah i think so | 03:04 |
| rudal | kk now i am installing the upstart | 03:04 |
| rudal | k i am going to paste what i get | 03:05 |
| rudal | The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: sysvinit | 03:05 |
| _ion | When you make sure you have ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard installed, you should get upstart and all the other necessary packages installed as dependencies. | 03:05 |
| rudal | Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. | 03:05 |
| rudal | The following extra packages will be installed: startup-tasks system-services upstart upstart-compat-sysv upstart-logd | 03:05 |
| rudal | The following packages will be REMOVED: sysvinit | 03:05 |
| rudal | The following NEW packages will be installed: startup-tasks system-services upstart upstart-compat-sysv upstart-logd | 03:05 |
| rudal | The following packages will be upgraded: ubuntu-minimal | 03:05 |
| rudal | 1 upgraded, 5 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 03:05 |
| rudal | Need to get 171kB of archives. | 03:05 |
| rudal | After unpacking 397kB of additional disk space will be used. | 03:05 |
| _ion | Yes, that's looks all right. | 03:05 |
| rudal | Do you want to continue [Y/n] ? y | 03:05 |
| rudal | kk | 03:05 |
| rudal | and i installed the standard alos | 03:05 |
| rudal | *also | 03:05 |
| _ion | (Please use pastebin the next time) | 03:06 |
| rudal | eh? sorry what is pastebin .. sorry if I pasted too many lines | 03:06 |
| _ion | Google for pastebin, there are many of them. Just a website where you can paste stuff to, and you get an URL for what you pasted. | 03:07 |
| rudal | ohh ok thank you | 03:07 |
| rudal | ahh k that works | 03:09 |
| rudal | do you know openvz right? | 03:09 |
| _ion | I know what it is, but haven't ever used it. | 03:12 |
| rudal | ahh ok ok .. yeah i am trying to get upstart installed inside the edgy virtual environment | 03:12 |
| rudal | that's why i am trying this and that..but still doesnt work on openvz .. hehe | 03:14 |
| rudal | thank you for your help ion..i think i will trynagain sometimes tomorrow ... gonna grab some beers tonight :P | 03:14 |
| rudal | have a great weekend ! | 03:14 |
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| theCore | I think I finally found a use for upstart on my system | 04:50 |
| theCore | I'm trying to make start a cron task only when the network is up. This task would sync my website to my hosting server. | 04:52 |
| theCore | does upstart can replace cron, yet? | 04:53 |
| _ion | Not yet. | 04:53 |
| _ion | Another thing proposed for a future upstart feature is watching a directory, and running the job when its contents have changed. | 04:53 |
| _ion | That would fit very well for mirroring scripts. | 04:54 |
| theCore | would it possible to launch a separate cron daemon? | 04:54 |
| _ion | Sure. | 04:54 |
| theCore | but would it interfere with the main instance of cron/anacron? | 04:55 |
| _ion | Uh, do you mean running two cron daemons concurrently? | 04:55 |
| theCore | yeah, one for the system, and one for my personal network tasks | 04:56 |
| _ion | Why not use the current crond normally, and add a network test to the beginning of the script? | 04:57 |
| _ion | That is, test whether the network is up | 04:57 |
| theCore | right, that should works | 04:58 |
| theCore | I just wanted to use upstart, but it seems I will go for the old fashioned way | 04:58 |
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| !christel:*! Hi all. For those of you interested in following the progress of PDPC a small news item has been added to the freenode website with information about the new PDPC board: http://freenode.net/news.shtml Have a good day. | 09:27 | |
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| !alindeman:*! Hi all. We're working on getting services back up now! | 03:44 | |
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| AquaFox | Do you want apple pie with thaat? | 06:50 |
| AquaFox | Do you want apple pie with thaat? | 06:50 |
| AquaFox | DING fries are done | 06:50 |
| AquaFox | DING fries are done | 06:50 |
| AquaFox | DING fries are done | 06:50 |
| AquaFox | DING fries are done | 06:50 |
| AquaFox | I gotta run | 06:50 |
| AquaFox | I gotta run | 06:50 |
| AquaFox | I gotta run | 06:50 |
| AquaFox | I gotta run | 06:50 |
| AlexExtreme | umm? | 06:50 |
| AquaFox | I work at Burger King I broil whoppers I wear paper hats | 06:50 |
| yankees26 | sorry about him (i kicked him on the other channel, where i can do that :P) | 06:52 |
| yankees26 | do you guys think upstart would be a good choice for an LFS? | 06:52 |
| AlexExtreme | yankees26: yeah, could be | 06:52 |
| yankees26 | based on what i've read on the getting-started page, it doesnt seem like it would an extreme nuisance to setup | 06:53 |
| yankees26 | (i've never actually used upstart, 'cause i dont use ubuntu) | 06:53 |
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| _ion | yankees: After the proposed changes have been implemented to upstart (during the 0.3 branch), definitely yes. Currently, perhaps. | 06:58 |
| yankees26 | why's that? | 06:58 |
| _ion | It depends on whether you need the upcoming new features or not. :-) | 06:59 |
| _ion | See the design changes page (topic) | 06:59 |
| yankees26 | ok | 06:59 |
| AlexExtreme | _ion: do you know if it will ever be possible to have more than one event in a job file? | 07:00 |
| yankees26 | well, i just got thoroughly confused (don't fully understand the 'on' stuff yet, etc.) | 07:01 |
| AlexExtreme | i mean, it would be good to have all udev events in one job file, as an example | 07:01 |
| AquaFox | http://www.americanangst.com/dingfries.html | 07:03 |
| _ion | alexextreme: With the proposed design, something like this would be possible: | 07:03 |
| _ion | on event0 | 07:03 |
| _ion | on event1 | 07:03 |
| _ion | pre-start script | 07:03 |
| _ion | case "$UPSTART_EVENT" in | 07:03 |
| _ion | event0) | 07:03 |
| _ion | ... | 07:03 |
| _ion | etc. | 07:03 |
| AlexExtreme | no, i mean, to define different things to do on different events, like "on event-foo, do this; on event-bar, do that" | 07:05 |
| _ion | That's exactly what i mean. | 07:05 |
| AlexExtreme | AquaFox: you seem bored | 07:05 |
| AlexExtreme | ah | 07:05 |
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| AlexExtreme | :P | 07:06 |
| AquaFox | AlexExtreme, I like your analyst ways. | 07:06 |
| AquaFox | O-Big-One-Kinobee. | 07:06 |
| _ion | aquafox: Please behave. | 07:06 |
| AquaFox | ? | 07:06 |
| AquaFox | Dude. | 07:06 |
| AquaFox | I havn't been badly behaving. | 07:06 |
| AquaFox | I didn't insult somebody. | 07:06 |
| AlexExtreme | you're spamming | 07:07 |
| AquaFox | k | 07:13 |
| AlexExtreme | gotta go, bbl | 07:14 |
| wasabi_ | so me and scott figured out the last pieces of the new design | 07:14 |
| wasabi_ | it's pretty swank | 07:17 |
| _ion | wasabi: Were you at udsmtv? | 07:18 |
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| AlexExtreme | wasabi_: which last peices? anything interesting? :) | 07:38 |
| wasabi_ | yeah. i was there. | 07:44 |
| wasabi_ | we figured out how "levels" or whatver you want to call them will work. | 07:44 |
| _ion | Cool. | 07:50 |
| AlexExtreme | runlevels? nice | 07:53 |
| wasabi_ | no, not run levels. | 08:32 |
| AlexExtreme | oh | 08:32 |
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| yankees26 | AlexExtreme: do you happen to be same Alex Extreme writing FWinit (just curious)? | 10:23 |
| AlexExtreme | FWinit was a crazy project of mine that i stopped after discovering that there were already init replacements doing what I wanted to do ;) | 10:24 |
| yankees26 | ah :P | 10:24 |
| yankees26 | wish my C skills were good enough to make some sort of work on an init system (sadly Im better at C++ and still wouldnt be as good :P) | 10:24 |
| AlexExtreme | gotta go, night | 10:31 |
| yankees26 | night | 10:32 |
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