[03:55] <seele> Riddell: ping
[04:14] <Riddell> hi seele 
[04:55] <imbrandon> ahh finaly
[04:55] <imbrandon> almost home
[04:55] <imbrandon> moins all
[04:55] <Riddell> sebas: dood, we have to do this tomorrow http://www.citykayak.com/
[04:55] <Riddell> hi imbrandon 
[04:55] <imbrandon> heya Riddell 
[04:55] <Jucato> moin imbrandon, Riddell!
[04:55] <imbrandon> Riddell: i just made it back to KC, sitting at the airport waiting for my ride to come get me
[04:55] <imbrandon> :)
[04:56] <imbrandon> Riddell: quote ".... imbrandon (red neck) ...." hahahah classic
[04:56] <imbrandon> heya Jucato 
[04:57] <robotgeek> hey imbrandon 
[04:57] <imbrandon> ello robotgeek 
[04:57] <robotgeek> long time. howz it going?
[04:57] <imbrandon> good, just got back from the dev summit, ready to get to my house and take a long hot shower
[04:57] <imbrandon> you?
[04:58] <robotgeek> trying to install edgy on my pc with a broken motherboard
[04:58] <imbrandon> ouch , not cool
[04:59] <robotgeek> well, the devices show up in xp, but don't work. i just thought i will install linux, and keep it ready for when after i rma it
[04:59] <imbrandon> Riddell: wow, that looks fun actualy
[05:00] <imbrandon> robotgeek: ahh
[05:01] <robotgeek> imbrandon: chk /notice
[05:04] <jsgotangco> ahh the channel is getting active again after the summit
[05:05] <imbrandon> jsgotangco: starting too :)
[05:05] <jsgotangco> heh i bet it was tiring but fun
[05:05] <robotgeek> hey jsgotangco . howdy
[05:06] <imbrandon> canonical employyees are still in SF for a week but it will pick up again now a bit
[05:50] <sebas> Riddell: looks fun
[07:22] <Hobbsee> hey all
[07:23] <Jucato> Hobbsee!!!!
[07:24] <Hobbsee> Jucato!!!!
[07:24] <imbrandon> heya Hobbsee 
[07:24] <Jucato> Hobbsee: I sure did, though... who says he's the only one who could get drunk and still be on IRC? :P
[07:24] <Hobbsee> hey redneck
[07:24] <imbrandon> haha
[07:24] <Hobbsee> Jucato: haha
[07:24] <Jucato> heheh redneck :P
[07:25] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: managed to put down the mt dew yet, and get hooked on irn bru?
[07:25] <Jucato> Hobbsee: I came in here a bit drunk last night (1am or 2am your time...)
[07:25] <imbrandon> heh nah, it was ok but not mt dew
[07:25] <Hobbsee> ahhh
[07:25] <Hobbsee> haha
[07:25] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: but i did get Riddell  to drink some dew
[07:26] <imbrandon> heya sebas 
[07:26] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: hah
[07:26] <imbrandon> sebas: make it home ok?
[07:27] <nixternal> Riddell: https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-desktop-guide
[07:27] <imbrandon> i almost missed my flight in denver, i only had 15 minutes to switch planes
[07:27] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: ouch
[07:27] <nixternal> hola
[07:27] <imbrandon> but i made it
[07:27] <imbrandon> ello nixternal 
[07:28] <Hobbsee> hah
[07:28] <imbrandon> nixternal: watchin snl ?
[07:28] <imbrandon> ouch
[07:28] <nixternal> nah, whats on?
[07:28] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: speaking of which, can you add a hook dir?  and stuff in that hook dir?  i cant, as i dont have root
[07:29] <imbrandon> there is a hook dir now, but sure, ( you could have also done it by adding a ~/.pbuilderrc with only the HOOKDIR="~/hooks" in it or similar
[07:29] <nixternal> snl isn't even on 
[07:29] <nixternal> hehe
[07:29] <imbrandon> nixternal: yea its not sat :)
[07:29] <nixternal> well, 30 minutes ago it was
[07:30] <imbrandon> Hobbsee: yea i can though ( as long as its not crackfull lol )
[07:30] <Hobbsee> haha, of course it's not crackful
[07:30] <imbrandon> whats it for ?
[07:30] <Hobbsee> wait, i'm dumping them on your machine, as it's quicker than copying them
[07:30] <imbrandon> k
[07:33] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: see /home/hobbsee/hooks
[07:33] <imbrandon> kk
[07:33] <Hobbsee> B91 is the best, but they're all useful
[07:34] <Hobbsee> check man hooks if you want to read about them (they're copied from the examples in pbuilder)
[07:34] <imbrandon> what are they for ?
[07:34] <imbrandon> yea i know what hooks are, i ahve written a few
[07:34] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: looked at their names?
[07:35] <Hobbsee> one runs linda at the end of the build, b91 tests that the package installs/deinstalls/purges/etc correctly - saving you having to do it manually (yay)
[07:35] <Hobbsee> c10 drops to a shell inside the pbuilder if the build fails - so you dont need all the build deps again, etc
[07:35] <Hobbsee> the other two just tell you you're in a chroot at various times.  havent seen much use or harm in them
[07:35] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: ^
[07:35] <nixternal> hey, when it is time, someone can show me how to add a feisty pbuilder to my existing?  or i can jsut delete the edgy one, or show me a chroot, or kick me in the teeth?
[07:36] <imbrandon> nixternal: just make multi pbuilders
[07:36] <Hobbsee> nixternal: you can, or you can use multiple pbuilders
[07:36] <Hobbsee> see 
[07:36] <imbrandon> i have 4 or 5
[07:36] <Hobbsee> !pbuilder
[07:36] <ubotu> pbuilder is a system to easily build packages in a clean chroot environment. To get started with PBuilder, see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[07:36] <crimsun> I wouldn't delete your 6.10 one, since you'll likely need it for edgy-updates
[07:36] <nixternal> ty
[07:36] <imbrandon> heya crimsun 
[07:36] <nixternal> oh ya crimsun, forgot about that stoof
[07:36] <crimsun> 'i
[07:37] <Hobbsee> so /pbuilder is the base dir, which is a symlink to wherever i want it to be.
[07:37] <nixternal> been a while since i seen the 'i
[07:39] <imbrandon> crimsun: how was your week ?
[07:40] <crimsun> insane. I'm apparently flying to LA in a couple weeks for another meeting
[07:40] <crimsun> yours?
[07:41] <imbrandon> very very hetic, but very cool, got ALOT of productive stuff worked out, i'm really psyc'd about feisty and feisty+1 now, and finaly met a ton of cool people
[07:41] <crimsun> excellent
[07:41] <imbrandon> ( and apparently got the nickname redneck from my slightly southern draw )
[07:41] <imbrandon> lol
[07:41] <Hobbsee> haha
[07:42] <imbrandon> plus google is just awesom, that place is a techies disneyland + perks
[07:42] <crimsun> yep
[07:43] <crimsun> I was right down the road at Intuit some years ago
[07:43] <imbrandon> right on, i met a few of the people from intuit while i was there, talked to them about the days when i used to devel on a inhouse product that used the quickbooks sdk
[07:44] <imbrandon> back a few years ago
[07:44] <imbrandon> a few of the people headed down to apple hq to for a day trip
[07:45] <crimsun> nice
[07:45] <imbrandon> and there was a mysql conf at the google plex at the same time as ours and a nvidia conf in san jose too that some of the peeps went to ( i only poped in the mysql one for a moment )
[07:46] <imbrandon> but they pimped ubuntu hardcore at the nvidia conf, they ran ubuntu + xgl + beryl to show off the new card to the nvidia guys and they let them give out tons of ubuntu cd's there
[07:46] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: i note that the composite-by-default is looking much more sane too
[07:47] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, well we worked on it alot
[07:47] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: true that
[07:47] <imbrandon> it will be installed by default for ubuntu ( not kubuntu ) but not turned on 
[07:47] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: is the stuff on the wiki as of the 11th, the latest?
[07:47] <imbrandon> no idea i dident check the wiki
[07:47] <imbrandon> BUT
[07:48] <imbrandon> i chaird the first two BoF's on it soooo
[07:48] <Hobbsee> :)
[07:48] <Hobbsee> nice
[07:48] <imbrandon> chair'd*
[07:49] <imbrandon> anyhow it basicly should say something to the effect that
[07:50] <imbrandon> compiz/beryl is known not to work on a major percentage of computers so it will be installed so its easy to just check a box and turn it on BUT not on by defaut
[07:51] <Hobbsee> yep
[07:51] <Hobbsee> fair enough
[07:51] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: was there a spec on switching to dvd or something?
[07:51] <imbrandon> and there has been some changes to the core that were litterly coded at the confrence durring the bof that allows it to run on ANY card even without 3d support but with composite only at a reduced but useable framerate , we still need to see how that pans out
[07:52] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, not that i'm aware of, there were alot of "side" BoF's though that werent on the schedule becouse the scheduling sucked this time
[07:52] <imbrandon> so it might have been talked aobut but
[07:53] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: yeah, fair enough. how are they going to find the cd space to put beryl/compiz on?
[07:53] <Hobbsee> yeah, dbo mentioned that
[07:53] <imbrandon> not officialy and i am pretty sure its not going to happen till ATLEASTE feisty+1 is not farther out, basicly the consincus is to keep it on cd as long as possible
[07:53] <imbrandon> beryl / compiz is very very small
[07:53] <Hobbsee> right
[07:53] <imbrandon> so shouldent be an issue
[07:54] <Hobbsee> right
[07:54] <nixternal> omg imbrandon you just made my day with that beryl (isn't that a drink you take before an mri? :) stuff not being turned on
[07:54] <imbrandon> i know me and Riddell and a few others mentioned it in another kubuntu bof but that was our consincus 
[07:55] <nixternal> i have played with it for the past couple of weeks, and i don't like it..all the themes are windows vista looking like crazy
[07:55] <imbrandon> nixternal, yea it was a very good decision i think, they had to fight to get that much becouse really if it was upto mdz me and keybuk ( the ones that ran the accellerated-x BoF's ) it wouldent have been but mark wanted atleaste to have it installed
[07:56] <imbrandon> nixternal, it can use plain metacity themes too
[07:56] <nixternal> ewww
[07:56] <nixternal> kubuntu silly
[07:56] <Hobbsee> Riddell: had said in here that it likely wouldnt be done
[07:56] <imbrandon> kubuntu isnt going to use it at all
[07:56] <nixternal> i want my burple
[07:56] <nixternal> haha
[07:56] <imbrandon> we are talking ubuntu only
[07:56] <nixternal> imbrandon: whoever made the decision of kubuntu not using it at all, i will buy them a drink next time ;)
[07:56] <Hobbsee> :)
[07:56] <imbrandon> kde4 is what we're waiting for, kwin will support it then
[07:57] <nixternal> mmmm
[07:57] <Hobbsee> nixternal: Riddell already had enough drinks bought for him, and i dont drink
[07:57] <imbrandon> nixternal, basicly the whole kubuntu team that was at the summit, i dont think any of us were for it
[07:57] <nixternal> me either Hobbsee, you and i can drink a tea or a nice cold water ;)
[07:57] <Hobbsee> (which was said before uds)
[07:57] <Hobbsee> haha
[07:57] <Hobbsee> or strawberry milk, even
[07:57] <nixternal> alrighty then, i will...img strawberry milk!!
[07:57] <nixternal> omg too
[07:58] <nixternal> i have about 4 cans of that little rabbit in my cupboard
[07:58] <imbrandon> Hobbsee, yea but i learned one thing, basicly whats said before uds means squat, its sucks but true, everything is revisited basicly
[07:58] <crimsun> heh, it gets revisited again. Such is "software engineering."
[07:58] <imbrandon> :)
[07:58] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: point
[07:59] <imbrandon> but yea kubuntu wasent/isnt even thinking about using it
[07:59] <imbrandon> untill kde4
[07:59] <imbrandon> ( that means feisty+1 )
[08:00] <imbrandon> thats how koffice worked out too, feisty+1 ( e.g. kde4 )
[08:00] <nixternal> koffice in feisty+1 especially if MS and OOo trickle down their XML standards
[08:00] <imbrandon> which made alot of sense once it was tlaked about
[08:00] <Hobbsee> ahh right
[08:00] <nixternal> so we can all play nicely
[08:00] <Hobbsee> yep
[08:01] <nixternal> which i was screaming at imbrandon here on irc since my mic was squat..i was screaming XML - OASIS no no with MS
[08:01] <imbrandon> nixternal, no more in the fact that koffice2 ( in kde4 ) will support ms office formats better, and 1.X never will
[08:01] <imbrandon> nixternal, i saw you
[08:01] <nixternal> MS is supposedly going to drop OASIS support in 2007 now to push XML to us
[08:02] <nixternal> well, MS Office is going with XML crap everywhere now, which will create a new doc standard that is somewhat open..but im sure that will get screwed as well
[08:02] <nixternal> right now, KOffice only supports RTF right?
[08:02] <imbrandon> no its both xml AND the open doc format forced by the EU both
[08:03] <imbrandon> no it does doc's just not all the stuff like tables etc
[08:03] <nixternal> microsoft doesn't have to do the open doc format, and it was in a statement concerning novell, microsoft and openoffice.org
[08:03] <nixternal> they want to implement patches upstream to OOo
[08:03] <nixternal> which could be good, or flat out scary
[08:03] <nixternal> im leaning towards scary
[08:16] <imbrandon> ..
[10:35] <robotgeek> freeflying: howdy
[10:35] <sredna> Riddell: Is there a known way to use the qt4-copy packages for development?
[10:36] <freeflying> robotgeek: heya
[10:36] <sredna> Because just installing them does not help, as the installation it broken into atoms
[10:36] <sredna> Cmake can't find anything related to qt, and there is nothing to set QTDIR to
[10:36] <robotgeek> howz it going? maybe magically give the sredna an answer :)
[10:37] <Jucato> although it's 9:40 AM Sunday UTC... maybe Riddell's away?
[10:38] <robotgeek> heh
[10:40] <Jucato> Hobbsee: !!!
[10:40] <fdoving> sredna: you used 'update-alternatives --config' for qmake,moc,uic,lupdate and lrelease ? 
[10:41] <sredna> fdoving: No, I did not
[10:41] <fdoving> the includes are in /usr/include/qt4/
[10:41] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato!
[10:41] <sredna> I need to change my setup drastically for this to work
[10:42] <sredna> And I dont' know what is the impact of changing those things
[10:42] <sredna> If the changes are global, it's too much hazzle changing them all the time
[10:42] <sredna> Because I could want to compile something against qt3 as well
[10:43] <fdoving> they are. should probably make a script to automate it.
[10:45] <sredna> Well, I think it can never work really well that way
[10:45] <sredna> With more versions of qt installed, it would be better to keep everything in one directory
[10:45] <fdoving> true, you have a user with a kde4 development environment? 
[10:45] <sredna> Well, I think I'm going to
[10:46] <sredna> Since it seems to be such a hazzle getting things to work otherwise
[10:47] <fdoving> You can of course make a ~/bin for the development-user with the correct symlinks to the qt4 binaries.
[10:48] <sredna> That could be a start, but I'd also need to do something for the includes and linking parts
[10:49] <fdoving> hmm yes. what's the problem with linking? 
[10:49] <sredna> I don't know if there is any yet
[10:49] <sredna> Because so far cmake ran for 1 sec :-)
[10:52] <fdoving> I'm making a test-script now, to swap all the qt things to qt4 with update-alternatives.
[10:53] <fdoving> if that works, it could be easier than changing users.
[10:53] <sredna> Yes
[10:56] <sredna> Now I use a bin dir
[10:56] <sredna> But I get another error about 'qdbusxml2cpp' missing
[10:57] <fdoving> that should be in /usr/bin/
[10:57] <fdoving> it's in libqt4-dev
[10:57] <sredna> ... which is installed (the kde-copy version)
[10:58] <fdoving> 'which qdbusxml2cpp' doesn't find it? 
[10:58] <sredna> No
[10:58] <fdoving> 'dpkg -S qdbusxml2cpp' ? 
[10:59] <sredna> .....
[10:59] <sredna> Not found
[10:59] <fdoving> hmm.. then the kde-copy doesn't include it. weird.
[11:00] <sredna> Well, that version of qt4 is required for kde4 development, so that is kind of a conclusion
[11:00] <sredna> I need to build qt4
[11:01] <fdoving> we need to fix qt4.
[11:01] <sredna> That would be smart
[11:01] <sredna> When you are at it, the kdecopy version need to tell the system that it provides qt4
[11:02] <sredna> Some packages had to be uninstalled because of that missing
[11:02] <sredna> And if you are going to do that, I will be lazy and postpone any work on kde trunk to later
[11:04] <fdoving> Don't think these changes will make it into edgy. Not sure they qualify for edgy-updates.
[11:05] <sredna> Sigh
[11:05] <fdoving> But that's not for to me to decide. I'll have a look at the kde-copy packages.
[11:05] <sredna> Why is updating parts of a system so forbidden?
[11:05] <sredna> I dont' get it
[11:06] <sredna> I'll see if I can find a more modern computer that I can afford, then compiling qt wouldn't take an entire day
[11:07] <fdoving> I think the idea is to restrict updates to the point where no update should break anything, ever.
[11:08] <sredna> Well, it kinda makes it very hard to work for developers
[11:08] <fdoving> It does.
[11:08] <fdoving> And lots of unofficial repositories with dozens of packages everywhere.. and everyone use them, because the official ones provides old versions of evertyhing.
[11:09] <fdoving> .. and that breaks upgrading.
[11:09] <fdoving> and so on.
[11:10] <sredna> I use some unofficial repos
[11:10] <sredna> Not many though
[11:10] <sredna> But I would definately like a kde-devel one, sparing me some of the infinite compiling
[11:10] <sredna> It could contain a qt packate installing the simple way :-)
[11:14] <fdoving> that would be a good idea.
[11:14] <fdoving> that is the idea with the qt kde-copy in the repositories, but if it doesn't work, it's useless.
[11:15] <sredna> Seems I'm doomed to have to compile it all by hand
[11:16] <sredna> For qt, the correct installation is in one single directory
[11:16] <sredna> Splitting things up leads to trouble
[11:16] <fdoving> debian and ubuntu always split things up.-
[11:16] <sredna> A package pr file :-)
[11:17] <sredna> A sane linux distribution is yet to be found
[11:17] <sredna> Or maybe I just didn't hear of it yet...
[11:18] <fdoving> .deb distributions are the most sane to me. :)
[11:18] <sredna> That is why I'm using one, too
[11:19] <sredna> And I can live with it, just I can't use that part of the system packages for development
[11:19] <Hobbsee> sredna: has Riddell heard about this idea of a special development/kde4 repo?
[11:20] <fdoving> sredna: hmm.. did you uninstall the kdecopy packages yet? I think it's just a matter of naming the binaries correct.
[11:20] <sredna> It "just" requires someone to write the spec files, and some machine power to keep the files up to date
[11:20] <sredna> fdoving: I did
[11:21] <Hobbsee> then again, i guess you'd have to remove the packages to use it
[11:21] <Hobbsee> er, to use the older versoin
[11:21] <Hobbsee> ahh, right
[11:21] <fdoving> sredna: ok. i think it's missing a q at the start /usr/bin/dbusxml2cpp is there.
[11:22] <sredna> I think I'll just build from source. Having qt in a directory and setting $QTDIR works very, very well
[11:22] <sredna> ... and having tolive with random renamings and misplacement of files is probably worse
[11:25] <fdoving> sredna: what do i test my renaming of files with? compiling a random qt4 package like speedcrunch? 
[11:26] <fdoving> I compiled kde4 with the non-kdecopy of qt some days ago. that worked fine.
[11:34] <sredna> fdoving: Then that would be a vital alternative
[11:34] <sredna> For me
[11:35] <sredna> fdoving: What did you do to tell cmake where to find qt?
[11:37] <fdoving> hmm.. not sure. whatever the kde4 packages at kubuntu.org does.
[11:37] <fdoving> I'll have a look at the source. hang on.
[11:38] <sredna> I installed those packages, but I removed them, since I need to compile kdelibs + kdebase
[11:39] <fdoving> I understand, I compiled those packages for powerpc.
[11:39] <sredna> How do I get rid of B flags with pakcages?
[11:39] <sredna> Removing the kdecopy packages faild to clean up properly :(
[11:42] <Hobbsee> purge?
[11:48] <sredna> Well, when listing packages some have a B as the second character, which means they can't be installed. And now that B shouldn't be there
[11:48] <sredna> I do not know what 'purge' means
[11:48] <Hobbsee> oh, sorry
[11:48] <Hobbsee> sudo apt-get remove --purge packagename
[11:49] <Hobbsee> should remove all config files, et
[11:49] <Hobbsee> c
[11:49] <sredna> "to clear of guilt" -- that may work ;) 
[11:49] <Hobbsee> :)
[11:50] <fdoving> hmm.. looks like the tool dbusxml2cpp is named dbusxml2cpp by trolltech.
[11:50] <fdoving> http://doc.trolltech.com/4.2/dbusxml2cpp.html
[11:51] <fdoving> should kdecopy still rename it? 
[11:52] <sredna> I dont' know
[11:52] <sredna> cmake complained
[11:52] <fdoving> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=115779376820374&w=2
[11:52] <sredna> But my packages still have their Bs
[11:53] <sredna> And something else broke that was fixed - now a lot of packages looks like they should be uninstalled, such as X and other stuff that is absolutely required for a desktop PC :\
[11:54] <Hobbsee> sredna: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:54] <Hobbsee> try that :P
[11:54] <sredna> Well, I can do that now that the broken kdecopy packages have gone
[11:54] <fdoving> isn't B broken? 
[11:54] <Hobbsee> :)
[11:54] <fdoving> what does 'apt-get -f install' say?
[11:55] <sredna> Right now the entire system feels a bit shaky, if not broken
[11:55] <fdoving> where do you see this B?
[11:56] <Hobbsee> sredna: it's not the system, it's the floor
[11:56] <sredna> Lol
[11:56] <sredna> fdoving: The B is with aptitude search listings
[11:56] <sredna> 'pB <package>'
[11:57] <sredna> Kubuntudesktop installed vanilla qt4 packages, so I'm back to start
[12:48] <joe3k> does anyone know if adept and speedcrunch are supposed to be kde or qt apps? because their menu does not appear in the menu panel if mac-style menu is selected
[12:55] <abattoir> joe3k: adept is probably being run as root, so it doesn't inherit your regular styles...
[12:55] <abattoir> joe3k: speedcrunch is qt4
[12:57] <joe3k> abattoir: hm pity :)
[12:58] <joe3k> abattoir: anyway it would be nice if it somehow could ...
[12:59] <abattoir> joe3k: sorry, am not aware of any way to make them work
[12:59] <joe3k> abattoir: and do you have any idea what would happen if i'd set mac-style menu for root and the "usual" menu style for the user? :)
[12:59] <abattoir> joe3k: i was just thinking of that... you could try it if you want ;)
[12:59] <abattoir> wait..
[01:00] <abattoir> joe3k: hmm... don't know... try it if you want to :)
[01:01] <joe3k> abattoir: i'll do when i have time
[01:02] <abattoir> ok
[03:11] <bddebian> Howdy
[03:12] <Jucato> hi bddebian
[03:12] <bddebian> Hi Jucato
[03:19] <seele> Riddell: ping
[03:19] <seele> huh, he responded to me yesterday and the channel didnt light up.. weird
[03:19] <Jucato> hi seele! saw you're picture with the guys
[03:19] <seele> Jucato: moin, thats cool
[06:42] <nixternal> is kmail a resource hog or what?
[06:43] <nixternal> when deleting a bunch of emails, or applying filters to a bunch of emails, you might as well begin development on your own Linux distro
[06:44] <nixternal>  6099 nixterna  25   0  127m  66m  39m R 94.1  5.2  16:08.51 kontact
[06:44] <nixternal> jeesh, 94.1% cpu just to delete a few hundred email
[07:05] <marseillai> pt1 dcop ca TUE
[07:05] <marseillai> oups sorry channel mistake
[11:18] <imbrandon> kwwii_, ping 
[11:32] <kwwii_> imbrandon: pong
[11:34] <kwwii_> boah, I killed planet.kde.orog
[11:34] <kwwii_> org
[11:35] <imbrandon> haha
[11:35] <imbrandon> yea i was gonna tell you that
[11:35] <imbrandon> not only that was gonna sk if you wanted to be added to planet.u.c
[11:35] <imbrandon> kwwii_, ^^
[11:36] <imbrandon> btw did you make it home in one peice ?
[11:36] <imbrandon> hehe
[11:37] <kwwii_> yepp, and you?
[11:37] <imbrandon> yup yup, just trying to get back on "my" schedule , and catch up on sleep
[11:37] <seele> (oh, planet.ubuntulinux.com, not ubuntu.com)
[11:37] <seele> heh
[11:37] <imbrandon> lol
[11:38] <imbrandon> heya seele, they are both the same
[11:38] <crimsun> it would be mighty impressive if he didn't make it home in one piece yet was chatting on irc
[11:38] <imbrandon> ubuntulinux.com is an alias 
[11:38] <imbrandon> crimsun, haha true
[11:38] <seele> ah hah
[11:38] <kwwii_> like I lost my arm in a freak airplane toilette accident
[11:38] <seele> yet another feed to read, hehe
[11:39] <crimsun> those crazy WC accidents.
[11:40] <imbrandon> seele, i got in trubble when i got home too, my "Girl Friend" nothing serouis yet, but anyhow to the story, she was like "who's that chick your holdeing her hand in that pic of the kubuntu group" , i had to zoom in in gimp to show her we wasent , it was just the angle of the pic/camera it looked like it
[11:40] <imbrandon> and tbh i never noticed it till she said something
[11:41] <seele> imbrandon: LOL
[11:41] <seele> thats funny
[11:41] <imbrandon> heh yea
[11:42] <imbrandon> anyhow kwwii_ you should add your self to planet.ubuntu.com ( i can do the bzr stuff for you if you dont wanna mess with it )
[11:43] <seele> kwwii_: do you blog much (other than just breaking planet?
[11:43] <imbrandon> even if you only post every 6 months LOL
[11:43] <imbrandon> seele, the last blog post he had before that on blogspot was from the paris UDS
[11:43] <crimsun> imbrandon the player! hehe
[11:43] <imbrandon> when sebas got a black eye
[11:44] <imbrandon> crimsun, LOL
[11:44] <kwwii_>  seele: nope, I am not the biggest blogger in the world
[11:44] <seele> haha
[11:44] <kwwii_> imbrandon: can you point me to some instructions on how to do all that?
[11:44] <imbrandon> sure, one sec
[11:44] <crimsun> I used to blog like my life depended on it, but I stopped when I realized I wasn't blogging about anything worthwhile ;)
[11:45] <imbrandon> kwwii_, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PlanetUbuntu    <--- how to add your feed to planet with bzr
[11:45] <crimsun> whew, wayback doesn't have copies of them :-)
[11:46] <imbrandon> crimsun, hehe
[11:46] <imbrandon> crimsun, i have a good mix i think, or worthless stuff and stuff that means something to someone
[11:46] <imbrandon> i dident blog all week though, i think i will do a "week in one post" later today
[11:47] <kwwii_> somehow blogging feels like waving my penis in public
[11:47] <imbrandon> hahaha
[11:48] <imbrandon> what was tonio's word for it translated into english? 
[11:48] <imbrandon> or was it you? something about brain masterbation
[11:48] <imbrandon> i about died laughing 
[11:48] <kwwii_> yepp
[11:48] <crimsun> nobody wants to read about alsa hacking and bug triaging anyway
[11:48] <crimsun> :-)
[11:49] <imbrandon> crimsun, you would be suprised
[11:49] <imbrandon> i wouldent mind reading about your stuff
[11:49] <imbrandon> and i'm sure i'm not alone
[11:50] <crimsun> here, I'll summarise from Hoary to Edgy: "I hate quirks."
[11:50] <imbrandon> crimsun, hahaha
[11:50] <crimsun> there, one year and six months in three words
[11:51] <imbrandon> heh
[11:57] <imbrandon> okies time for dinner and real life kinda stuff, see yall after bit