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Linux_GalorePsiKloPx: but in the case of kubuntu there is a universal one you can use12:12
joe3kthingy: and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31077 is my 66-saa7134-myir.rules12:13
joe3kthingy: i tried more alternatives, hence the comment there12:13
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PsiKloPxI used http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg and it seemed to take care of the problem12:14
joe3kthingy: and lastly http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31078/ is udevinfo output; as i said if i mess up the rule it complains, so it should "see" the rule12:14
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thingyjoe3k: umm googling brought up this...which seems to have a rule already with instructions on how to use it: http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Generic_SAA7134_Card_Installation12:15
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thingyjoe3k: am just comparing your one with it12:15
klerfaytLinux_Galore: still empty12:15
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Linux_Galoreklerfayt: might be a region support problem12:16
joe3kthingy: hm thnx, i didn't google on generic saa7134 stuff, since i've actually no problems with saa7134 itself12:16
joe3kthingy: they're filtering on vendoer, but if i got it right name should do as well12:16
thingyjoe3k: yep was thinking that filtering should work either way12:17
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thingyoh no its intelikey! :-)12:17
joe3kthingy: one more, they're filtering on class/input/event, no /class/input/input, but i think i've tried that one already as well12:18
intelikeywhere ?12:18
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Linux_Galoreklerfayt: ask in #kde12:18
joe3kintelikey: you're surely udev guru, aren't you :)12:18
intelikeyi don't even like udev.12:19
intelikeywhat you need joe3k ?12:19
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sickdhello12:19
joe3kso let it be, i'm trying to get that thing create one symlink for my ir12:19
sickdi upgraded to edgy12:19
sickdand the keyboard doesn't work12:19
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sickdon XD12:20
sickdon X12:20
sickdkdm also12:20
sickdany idea?12:20
intelikeyjoe3k ir ?12:20
joe3kintelikey: yep12:20
thingyjoe3k: btw, did you try "input*" ?12:20
smaggardhello ppl :D12:20
sickdwhy the keyboard doesn't work?12:21
intelikeyir ???  ingnorant russan ?12:21
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sickdXorg log says all ok12:21
intelikey:)12:21
joe3kthingy: i tried almost everything :) even BUS=="pci" and DRIVER=="saa7134"12:21
sickdkdm log too12:21
thingysickd: usb keyb? or ps212:21
joe3kintelikey: infrared12:21
intelikeyjoe3k ir what ?12:21
sickdthingy: a laptop keyboard12:21
joe3kintelikey: remote?12:21
sickdthingy: was working ok with dapper12:21
thingysickd: whats the laptop make/model please12:21
sickdbut now12:22
sickd:S12:22
intelikeyir com   or   ir lp ?12:22
sickdwait12:22
joe3kintelikey: ir saa7134 via tuner card12:22
intelikeyok.  let me look around now.12:22
joe3kintelikey: but shouldn't actually matter, i'm trying to create symlink for /dev/input/eventx node12:22
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sickdthingy: how can i see the keyboard model?12:23
sickdthingy: it's a notebook12:23
sickdany command?12:23
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thingysickd: er i dont need keyboard model..just what the manufacturer of your laptop is and what the model number for the laptop is12:24
joe3kthingy: well it worked with the KERNEL and SYSFS{vendor} for /class/input/event312:24
campbchhas anyone used or know how to set up compiz?12:24
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thingyjoe3k: so...problem solved then?12:24
intelikeyjoe3k but the module loaded should make the device/s via a udev call.12:24
joe3kthingy: but the SYSFS{vendor} is actually not displayed in uderinfo for /class/input/event312:24
sickdthingy: compaq presarion v200012:24
joe3kintelikey: i want one more link12:25
sickdthingy: compaq presario v2000*12:25
joe3kintelikey: i have usb joystick and sometimes the order gets messed up12:25
joe3kintelikey: and if i instruct lircd to read the events from the wrong interface sometimes my mouse/joy stop working12:25
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intelikeyjoe3k if all you want is an added symlink in /dev  just pitch a command in /etc/rc.local to create it at each boot time.12:25
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joe3kwell ok i want to go the smart way :)12:26
pacmanAnyone know how to overclock my video card?  I've got a Radeon 955012:26
joe3kthis is ridiculous12:26
intelikeyjoe3k you know how to make the link don't you ?12:27
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joe3kintelikey: i do :)12:28
joe3kbut udev is kinda weird12:28
joe3kat least for me now :)12:28
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intelikeyyep.  and you can edit things in /dev and reboot and it's right back to default.12:28
pacmanAnyone know how to overclock my video card?  I've got a Radeon 955012:28
joe3kintelikey: that's the reason why i want the rule12:29
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intelikeythats why i don't like udev.12:29
intelikeyjoe3k when things are working correctly what all ir* modules are loaded ?  lsmod12:30
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campbchor XGL for that matter12:30
sickdany solution to my problem?12:30
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joe3kintelikey: this is not the problem12:30
joe3kintelikey: in lircd you have to say which /dev/input/eventX you want to use as input12:31
p_hi12:31
pacmananyone?12:31
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joe3kintelikey: and from time to time the order in /dev/input/eventX changes, so once my mouse is 2, ir 3, joy 4 the other time ir2, mouse 3, joy 412:31
minijerkoi12:32
minijerkalguem do brasil aqui nessa parada?12:32
joe3kintelikey: and if i configure lircd to use /dev/input/event3 my mouse stops working if after some reboot the mouse gets event312:32
thorhello all12:32
joe3kthingy: now it works12:32
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joe3kthingy: seems i've chosen the wrong device :-E12:32
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joe3kthingy: ie instead of /class/input/inputX i need /class/input/eventX12:33
joe3kdon't know what's the real difference though12:33
thori have a few things that i am trying to learn to install , the scripts all come back as failed, redhat-config not setup or something to this effect12:33
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thingyjoe3k: ah ok. great that it works. onto the next thing now! :-) make sure you backup the rules and setup info so you wont have to experiment again in the future12:34
joe3kthingy: thanks for your help12:34
thingyjoe3k: google did the work...i just typed in the query12:35
joe3kanyway when does that pastebin stuff get deleted12:35
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joe3kthingy: as usual ;-)12:35
thingyjoe3k: usually after some inactive period...12:35
joe3ki try to google as well but i didn't google for saa7134 :)12:35
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joe3k*tried*12:36
thortry ask.com , sometimes better results12:36
thingythor: your statement about things youre trying to install didnt make sense....what were you trying to install ? describe the problem12:37
thorok hold on and i will try again to explain better i hope12:38
intelikeywell the installer is hanging after language selection.12:38
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intelikeylts live installer just sitting there.......12:39
WerdnumDoes OpenVPN not love edgy?12:39
WerdnumIt installs fine for me, but no tun/tap adapter is created.12:39
thorthe program im trying to install is called "pyvoice", it's for gyach , a chat client that has voice12:39
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intelikeywow i took the disk out to wipe it off in case it was dusty    it's way hot.12:41
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joe3kthor: and what does it complain about?12:42
joe3kintelikey: hotswap? ;-)12:42
joe3kintelikey: or p'n'n in a new dimension12:42
thingythor: look at this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177081&highlight=pyvoice  to see how to install pyvoice + gyach easily in *ubuntu12:42
joe3kpnp12:42
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thorok , thanks , i will try that12:44
intelikeybut the thing that really pisses me off is the box has windows xp on it....12:44
pacmanAnyone know how to overclock my video card?  I've got a Radeon 955012:44
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whtwolfdoes anyone know which works better for laptops, edgy or dapper?12:45
mzliwhtwolf: dapper is better.12:45
intelikeywhtwolf edgy is the latest dapper is the LTS12:45
intelikey!lts12:45
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.12:45
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glimmungwhat do I do if kubuntu 6.10 live cd wont start X?12:46
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thingypacman: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91108&highlight=overclock+ati   <--- Youre on your own if it screws that hardware...nobody else is responsibile!12:46
mzliglimmung: it shouldnt.12:46
glimmungi know12:46
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glimmungbut it acts like it tries to start x, but then boots me back out to cmmandline, user cant startx, and no root password12:47
glimmungi checked disk for errors, its fine12:47
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mzliglimmung: You boot it from livecd?12:47
glimmungyes, but live cd wont start x12:47
glimmungjust commandline12:47
joe3kmzli: have you tried edgy on laptop?12:47
intelikeyno there is not a root passwd  nor is there a passwd for ubuntu  the  default user  which is root jr.    sudo -i12:48
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whtwolfodd question, should I install ubuntu the do a sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or just install kubuntu from a cd?12:48
joe3kmzli: i'm considering to update my friend's to edgy12:48
mzlijoe3k: No, never.12:48
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joe3kmzli: so how do you know dapper is better for laptops12:48
thingywhtwolf: kubuntu from cd..why would you want to do it the first way?12:48
thingywhtwolf: unless you wanted both ubuntu(gnome) and kubuntu(kde) on the same box12:48
mzlijoe3k: 1.edgy is not stable. 2. update are too much risky12:49
intelikey!sudo | glimmung12:49
ubotuglimmung: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.12:49
whtwolfI have edgy installed on my laptop right now and it seems to work ok but I did a dist-upgrade from dapper so that I could install easy ubuntu first12:49
joe3kmzli: hmm don't know edgy has at least newer stuff like kernel, alsa etc which is important for new laptops12:49
joe3ki had to hack into alsa support for the laptop's sc12:50
joe3kthe lid switch is not working right, acpid flooding the logs, it can be better only with never kernel releases i think12:50
mzlijoe3k: I've met some person installed edgy on laptop, then the computer are broken.12:51
mzlijoe3k: of course, this will not happen to all laps.12:51
whtwolfedgy seem ok to me on a laptop but I cant get easy ubuntu to work with edgy :(12:52
mzlijoe3k: but its more risky. No need to risky.12:52
joe3kwell but it's true that edgy broke a lot of stuff12:52
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joe3kbye12:54
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thorim out guy's , thanks for the help thingy ;) much neede it was :))12:55
whtwolfis there a way to install the restricted w32 drivers other than using easy ubuntu?12:55
intelikeythere's always a way whtwolf the question is   how hard would it be....12:56
thingythor: np c ya12:56
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intelikeyand that i can't really answer.    w32 driver for what ?12:57
thingywhtwolf: you can get the svn version of easy ubuntu which seems to be a release candidate for edgy....i just read a couple of threads about it12:57
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thingywhtwolf: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273956&highlight=easyubuntu+edgy  <-- Paul.O's reply in the thread12:57
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thingyintelikey: he means the win32 codecs12:58
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Authority_laptopwhere is the keycode to keysym mapping done?  My right ALT key is mapped to something bizarre.12:58
sorush20hi I keep getting computer freezes could somsomeone help me firgure it out why? pentium 4 3.ghx 2.6gb ram sis motherboards kubuntu edgy kernel 38612:59
intelikeyah yeah there are other ways    i have installed them but never seen/used "easy ubuntu"12:59
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intelikeysorush20 shouldn't you be using the 686 kernel ?01:00
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intelikeyi know that shouldn't hang it but....01:00
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thingyAuthority_laptop: launch kcontrol, select Regional & Accessibility, Xkb options tab...01:01
glimmungwell its official, the kubuntu cd does not work for me, keeps giving the no screens found error01:01
intelikeydid the hoary install disk not have gparted on it ?01:01
thingyglimmung: laptop/desktop?01:01
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glimmungdesktop01:01
thingyglimmung: manufacturer and model ?01:01
glimmungdell 410001:01
thingyglimmung: graphics card in the desktop01:01
klerfaytLinux_Galore: I'm staring at default freshly installed kubuntu and you were right; keyboard layouts are there cause this time I installed with option "us english keyboard"01:02
glimmungi beleive its nvidia01:02
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thingyglimmung: right they should work out of the box...do you know the model?01:02
sorush20well there isn't that kernel in the repositories01:02
sorush20intelikey:01:02
glimmungno I dont01:02
glimmungi know its 128 bit01:02
intelikeyglimmung   grep -ie driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:03
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sorush20is 480 Mbits/s 60Mbyte/s?01:03
glimmungnvidia01:03
thingyglimmung: also is this a dell dimensions 4100 ?01:03
glimmungyes it is01:03
intelikeyglimmung hmmmm might try something generic there01:04
glimmungwhat do you mean?01:04
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intelikeyglimmung well if i can think of it i'll tell you.01:04
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glimmungso is this an nvidia driver problem? or my model is not supported?01:05
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intelikeythat three letter thing that means what windows used to do for vidio.....01:05
thingyglimmung: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268927&highlight=dell+dimension+4100   sigh..actually a lot of people are having problems with the dell dimension 4100 in the ubuntuforums...can you try installing via the alternate cd please01:05
glimmungvga?01:05
glimmungwhats the alternate cd?01:05
glimmungthe non live one?01:05
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sorush20hi here is the list of usb devices I have I don't know if my usb two is working proprely or not01:06
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sorush2000:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  USB 1.0 Controller (rev 0f) 00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  USB 1.0 Controller (rev 0f) 00:03.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  USB 2.0 Controller01:06
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intelikeyglimmung vesa01:07
intelikeysorry four letters.... :)01:07
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thingyglimmung: its called the Alternate CD here's a url http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/edgy/01:07
intelikeyglimmung you might try using vesa vidio driver    if that don't work alternate CD  ^01:07
glimmungso I pass vga=vesa to grub or what?01:08
smaggardchange /etc/X11/xorg.conf driver to vesa :D01:08
sorush20I have nothing attached to the ehci01:08
glimmungwell then what about when I want to get the nvidia drivers later?01:09
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klerfaytis #kubuntu appropriate for asking questions about kernel modules_01:09
smaggardchange it from vesa to nvidia01:09
glimmungi just dont understand how I can change the config on a live cd01:09
smaggardoo01:09
smaggardim not sure about thatlol01:09
intelikeyglimmung no you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change nvidia to vesa  save    and startx01:10
Authority_laptopthanks thingy, got it figured out01:10
glimmungdont I have to be root to edit the xorg.conf?01:10
smaggardyes do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:10
Hobbseeklerfayt: you can try01:10
glimmungok01:10
intelikeyglimmung you are root jr.  use the force.    sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:10
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klerfaytHobbsee: if I boot then modules load right? e.g. "psmouse"01:11
Hobbseeklerfayt: at some point, yes01:11
thingyThe live cd is more trouble than its worth....nothing at all wrong with the alternate cd install. imo. bah01:11
intelikeyprolly most of them in the initramfs.img klerfayt01:12
klerfaytHobbsee: as we know psmouse rate is 80 - my question is if it is possible to change config file so that rate=40 _01:12
intelikeythingy i concour01:12
smaggardto load modules just add them to /etc/modules01:12
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thingyklerfayt: change the rate in xorg or on the command line (gpm) ?01:13
kkathmanhey Hobbsee :)01:13
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klerfaytthingy: if you mean psmouse.rate=40 in grub then sadly it is not recognized01:13
thingyklerfayt: or are you saying that the module itself has a rate parameter which can be set01:13
klerfaytthingy: default rate is 80 I want it to be 4001:14
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klerfaytthingy: one way to do it is sudo rm -r psmouse and then sudo psmouse rate=4001:14
intelikeysounds like an xorg.conf issue01:14
Hobbseehey kkathman!!!01:14
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Hobbseeklerfayt: usually in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, maybe?01:15
klerfaytthese things can't be changed in xorg.conf01:15
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intelikeykcontrol can change the rate of mouse movement cant it01:15
klerfaytnono this is not same01:16
thingyklerfayt: add a line in /etc/modules saying "psmouse rate=40" (no speech mark of course) and the module will honour this parameter whenever its loaded01:16
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klerfaytthingy: I tried that it was still 8001:16
intelikeywhat rate is this  you are talking about sample rate not movement rate   ?01:16
klerfaytintelikey: module option01:16
intelikeyyeah 40 per second01:17
intelikeyok01:17
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ruisuhey, hi you all :),  im haveing a problem witha newly created user: there is no audio hardware :S01:17
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ruisudoes anybody knows why is this?01:17
intelikeyklerfayt look into /etc/modprob.d/options01:18
klerfaytthingy: oops I tried it with /etc/modprobe.d/aliases01:18
intelikeyi think you can set it there.01:18
klerfaytthingy: maybe that is why it was still 8001:18
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thingyklerfayt: it should be /etc/modules01:18
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thingyklerfayt: i was wondering why that would not work01:19
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klerfaytthingy: ok I'm going to try /etc/modules ; but psmouse isn't there (it is in aliases)01:19
ruisuno body? :S01:19
intelikeythingy ubuntu doesn't by default have a /etc/modules   it can use it but /etc/modprobe.d/'files'  is what it defaults to.01:19
thingyklerfayt: you don't need it in aliases...just a line in /etc/modules saying psmouse rate=4001:20
thingyintelikey: oh right...yeah I had created my one for my sound card01:20
intelikeyand as i said   it can use /etc/modules01:20
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thingyintelikey/klerfayt: then i dont know why it didnt work if it was in modprobe.d01:20
zeeohey guys i'm trying to unrar a file with kubuntu 6.1001:20
zeeoand i can't get ark to work01:21
zeeowith rar01:21
ruisuzeeo: you need to install unrar01:21
smaggardwill ark unrar a file?01:21
klerfaytthingy: it didn\t work bacause I tried /etc/modprobe.d/aliases01:21
intelikeythingy cause options rather than aliases  maybe ?01:21
zeeoonec i install01:21
smaggardi thinkonly unrar will01:21
ruisuin adept, search for "unrar" and there you go ;)01:21
zeeohow can i make01:21
zeeoark01:21
zeeocuz ark says it can't find unrar01:21
klerfaytwhat is max. value of psmouse rate=?01:21
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thingyintelikey/klerfayt: ah...dang am not following the conv properly01:21
ruisuthat means you dont have installed unrar01:21
thingyruisu: is the user a member of the audio group ?01:22
intelikey!unrar-free01:22
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ubotuunrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB01:22
ruisuno , right now no, is that the issue?01:22
intelikeyzeeo ^01:22
thingyruisu: i dont know...can you explain the problem...did you mean that the problem is that one user...who is newly created..does not get access to sound hardware...but other users can?01:22
zeeoya i installed that01:22
zeeoone01:23
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zeeo1 sec let me tell you what ark says01:23
zeeowhen i try to unrar01:23
intelikeyfile-roller / ark   should be able to use it...  you may have to tell ark where it is.01:24
ruisuthingy: i, ruisu, can use audio harware normaly, but ive created a new user, that new user cant handle audio, kmix cant find audio hardware01:24
columbo197hi -- I just upgraded to edgy from dapper, and now when I boot and log into kde, the KDE status window (where it is initializing components) goes black and my aplications are all starting, but immediately become "invisible" -- I can see them flash onto the window each time their display updates and then they immediately go away. I can see my desktop wallpaper. any idea around this?01:24
thingyruisu:  ok then yes...it could be that the new user is not a member of the audio group...to check..log in as the user...type in groups and see if it says audio in the list01:25
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thingycolumbo197: have you rebooted the machine after the upgrade?01:26
ruisuhingy: yes, :P it wanst a member of the audio group :P i just added the new user to that group, i hoope that helps :)01:26
intelikeycolumbo197 you don't want my idea about it....01:26
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columbo197thingy: yes, I rebooted01:26
thingyruisu: try and make the groups the same for the user so that you dont get other problems like not being able to access cdrw etc.01:26
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ruisumhm :) just did that :P01:26
ruisuso01:27
ruisuthanks :)01:27
tobias_how do i run a bin installation file?01:27
thingyruisu: log off and on for change to take effect and np01:27
tobias_!bin01:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:27
tobias_!install binfiles01:27
thingytobias_: chmod u+x filename.bin; ./filename.bin01:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about install binfiles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:27
tobias_aha01:27
tobias_thanx01:27
intelikeytobias_ chmod 555 file.bin ; ./file.bin01:27
tobias_hmm01:27
tobias_which one?01:28
ruisuumm, ok, so how can make the new user a sudoer?01:28
thingyruisu: add to the admin group01:28
tobias_Im trying to install planeshift01:28
ruisuand done??01:28
thingyruisu: yep01:28
ruisuwoot :) thanks thingy :D01:28
ruisugood bye :)01:28
thingybye01:28
intelikeyyou asked how to exec a bin    chmod it and exec it01:28
columbo197I thnk I found a workaround just now --- I've got a dual monitor setup. I booted the machine wihtout the second monitor everything came up fine. I think it's because I was using the official nvidia kernel and it never got along with the fading stuff that the new version of kde likes to use01:29
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thingytobias_: follow these instructions...answers your question i think: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=289854&highlight=planeshift01:29
tobias_its working ! :D'01:30
tobias_thingy: your thingy worked01:30
tobias_thanx!'01:30
thingymy thingys always worked! :-)01:30
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tobias_is cedega only 7mb big?01:33
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Dark_Vampire!de01:35
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:35
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intelikeyda01:36
thingyyou mean "ja"01:36
thingyda = russian i think01:36
intelikeytov ja01:37
columbo197How do I disable the default window fading effects in the new version of kubuntu?01:37
tobias_how do I upgrade my version of kubuntu to the new version?01:38
intelikey!upgrade | tobias_01:38
ubotutobias_: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)01:38
tobias_aha!01:38
tobias_thanx01:38
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klerfaytcolumbo197: window does not fade in edgy by default01:39
thingycolumbo197: umm by default it doesnt do compwiz type stuff in kde....so again could this be something to do with your old config?01:39
Grigorgeouswhich package must I install to unrar  rar archives?01:39
thingycolumbo197: to disable compwiz, disable the Composite extension in xorg.conf or just comment the line out01:39
intelikey!unrar | Grigorgeous01:40
ubotuGrigorgeous: unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free01:40
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thingypacman_: overclocked it already?01:41
ubuntu_hi all01:41
columbo197sorry.. answered my own question again. they moved where a lot of the controls are now. It's under System Seettings > Window Behavior > Translucency > Translucency.   I'll just have to learn how to be more patient in my looking for answers :-)01:41
intelikeymy aint you special01:42
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ubuntu_my friend any one can tell me how can i connect to undernet server01:43
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intelikey /server irc.servername.ext01:44
intelikeydepending on the client.   click the menu and select new server01:44
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ubuntu_thanx intelikey01:46
intelikeynp01:47
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FuzzplugJoneshello, longtime (10 years) linux server admin trying Ubuntu on my HP Pavilion zv6130us notebook for the first time.01:48
FuzzplugJonesi think i've installed ndiswrapper correctly and pointed it to my driver, ndiswrapper -l says "bcmwl5          driver installed, hardware (14E4:4324) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)"01:49
FuzzplugJonesit creates wlan0 and eth1, however eth1 didn't come up forever until i ran wrieless assistant which actually seemes to have turned my radio on01:50
FuzzplugJonesyet it returns "no networks found" even though i have a (currently) wide open no encryption AP in the house.01:50
FuzzplugJonesiwlist scan also returns "eth1 no scan results"01:51
FuzzplugJonescan anyone help me?01:51
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intelikey!wifi | FuzzplugJones01:54
ubotuFuzzplugJones: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs01:54
intelikeythat's the best i can do....01:54
mzli#ubuntu+101:54
intelikeyeeeek01:55
intelikeytty24 [root@~]  lsmod01:55
intelikeyOpening /proc/modules: No such file or directory01:55
FuzzplugJoneshmm01:55
intelikeyand proc is mounted...01:55
xsachalol01:55
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intelikeyoh yeah.... i forgeted01:57
intelikeyFATAL: Error inserting ide_cd (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-cd.ko): Kernel does not have module support01:57
intelikeyi didn't build in module support.01:57
intelikeyhope i have all i need in it...01:57
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klerfaytI'm so happy; /etc/modprobe.d/options worked!01:59
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intelikeytty24 [root@~]  mkdir /boot  ; lilo ; rm -fr /boot02:00
intelikeyklerfayt sssh don't tell thingy02:00
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klerfaytintelikey: pmouse max value is 200 ?02:01
intelikeyooops there's the problem.   i hope that disk accepts another session...  /dev/hdd              362K  362K     0 100% /mnt/cdrom02:02
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intelikeyklerfayt 200 or 250    sounds right.02:02
klerfaytwhat happens if I set it to 500_02:02
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intelikeyit wont load  OR will load with defaults.02:03
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intelikeydepends on kernel settings02:03
intelikeyknowing ubuntu prolly will load with defaults02:03
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klerfaytintelikey: can I fry hardware with linux kernel?02:03
intelikeyyep02:04
intelikeybut not easily02:04
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intelikey"if you let the smoke out of those electronic deallies, they wont work no more.   conclusion; all elextronics run on smoke."02:05
intelikeys/x/c/02:06
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will__hi all02:17
will__kubuntu doesnt have gkrellm?02:17
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ismael_Hello. I just upgraded my Nvidia drivers to the beta version... I'm having trouble with the screen resfresh rate. When kdm loads it's fine (looks like 85Hz), but when my session starts, something happens and it goes to a whole 57Hz (at 1024x768, ie: NOT pretty). Using the Nvidia utility I can change the refresh back to 85Hz, but if I log out and in again, the setting's gone! Any idea of what's going on?02:19
will__ok this may be an awkward question, but where do I get libdvdcss from?02:20
Aondoismael_  what version of nvidia was that?02:21
wildchildwhat do I have to do in firefox that when I would click on an m3u link amarok will open02:21
jbrouhard!restrictedformats02:21
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:21
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jbrouhardthat'll help, will02:22
ismael_Aondo, let me check02:22
xsacha!libdvdcss202:22
ubotuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages02:22
xsacha!libdvdcss2 edgy02:22
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libdvdcss2 edgy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:22
xsachait's in adept here02:22
ismael_Aondo: 1.0.962902:22
xsacha!gkrellm02:22
ubotugkrellm: The GNU Krell Monitors. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.9-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 733 kB, installed size 2060 kB02:22
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will__well no gkrellm packages are showing up in adept manager02:24
Aondoismael_  i kinda have the same thing, kde only detects like 50 or 55hz, but the monitor tells me it is 75hz :D so i dont care with it hehe, but anyway, that driver isnt beta.02:24
wildchildn the gnome configuration you'll find a section where you specify what program to use for each MIME type  ---> where can I find gnome settings??02:25
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Aondoismael_  maybe a idea to remove the monitor settings you dont need, in xorg.conf and only go for the ones you want02:25
ismael_Aondo: Oh, I thought it was still in beta. KDE detects max 57Hz... And I can tell it's really 57Hz it's showing me...02:25
ismael_Aondo: but the screen refresh settings are... hard to get right :S02:26
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Ahmuckis there a way to set admin user without having to use sudo for every command ?02:28
ismael_Ahmuck: sudo -i02:28
ismael_Ahmuck: hit enter, it will ask your password, and then you're root02:28
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ismael_Ahmuck: use "exit" to go back to normal user02:28
Ahmuckthx02:28
Ahmuckthat works great02:28
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ismael_Aondo: so, maybe putting higher lower settings will help?02:29
Ahmuck!repositories02:29
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu02:29
Ahmuckauto repositories ?02:29
Ahmucki know there is a repository confiugratior02:29
Aondoismael_  actually, my monitor aswell is showing only 60hz now :P02:30
ismael_Aondo: That ain't nice :S02:30
ismael_Aondo: unless it's a lcd... then... you just don't care02:31
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Aondoismael_  yes it is lcd, but i care :D02:31
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Aondoi want 75 hehe02:31
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ismael_Aondo: I don't think lcd screens care much about resolution02:32
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Oellinashello02:35
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Oellinasi need to know one thing. I tried to copy files on an external hard disk with NTFS using the NTFS-3g driver and the time it took was really long. is it normal or it's something wrong with my pc02:37
Oellinasi am using kubuntu edgy02:37
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HawkwindOellinas: That's not something we support, since Linux doesn't support writing to NTFS without data loss most of the time02:42
pi1lcan anybody please tell me. how do i read 8-th number in 5th line in a file, remember, that it is parameter #1, and multiply it by 2 in cpp?02:43
Oellinasi see. do u know if the ntfs-3g project has somewhere a irc channel?02:43
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HawkwindOellinas: /msg chanserv list *ntfs*02:44
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Oellinasthanks you very much02:44
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HawkwindOellinas: No problems02:46
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Hawkwind!ntfs > Hawkwind02:49
wildchildis in kubuntu repos any similar program like virutal DJ or tractor ?02:50
Hawkwindwildchild: apt-cache search dj or tractor02:51
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wildchildHawkwind: desert :S02:53
Aondoismael_  did you dind anything out? :) im working on it aswell hehe02:54
ismael_Aondo: Yes, I found it02:54
ismael_#Option         "metamodes" "1024x768_85 +0+0; 1024x768 +0+0; 800x600 +0+0; 640x480 +0+0"02:54
ismael_this was the bad line02:54
ismael_in xorg.conf02:54
ismael_I don't know what it does02:55
ismael_but, as far as I know... it breaks my kde :P02:55
ismael_so it's out!02:55
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Aondoit is probly a bad line becaus of 1024x768_85 dont think it should be a underline there02:56
ismael_Aondo: Maybe... I don't have a clue, never seen that thing before02:56
Aondohehe02:57
Aondoi didnt notice this problem becaus i got a lcd monitor hehe, but its the same for me as for you, befor i log in i got 75hz but inside the session i get 60hz, probly just a config file somewhere :P02:58
Aondosome how i dont think it is xorg.conf02:58
Aondoanyone with inputs?02:59
ismael_But can you see the difference?02:59
Aondono, but on another monitor i would have, just like you do.03:00
ismael_yeah, but as I said before, I don't think refresh rate really matters for Lcds03:00
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ismael_if I remember correctly, my mother's lcd specifically said it was to be set at 60Hz for "best viewing"03:01
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Lam_does anyone else but me have a problem with the panel tray icons constantly resetting into a one-row formation?  (panel is at 48px, but when the tray icons go into one row, i have to raise it to 52px, and back to 48px to get it back into two rows)03:07
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Aondoismael_ i created a new user, instead of recreating my own, to login on the new user instead, and my hz is now still 75hz03:08
Aondoso... there are clearly some config files in your home directory :D03:08
Aondoi have no clue where :/03:09
ismael_Aondo: oh. That's wierd03:09
ismael_Aondo: me neither...03:10
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Ahmuckis there a way to remove kde groupware wizard ?03:19
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Ahmucki also want to remove kinfo center03:19
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Dr_willisis there a program to manage cell phone phonebooks under linux? wife is getting hers all messed up.03:21
thomasi try to go to add/remove programs in the kmenu and it pops up with this error message saying "Su returned with an error." can anybody help me, please and thank you :)03:23
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ubuntu_hi03:24
Ahmuckhi ubuntu_03:24
ubuntu_im trying to install edgy on a HD with dapper already. when the install ask me about partitions, i only can format, delete and properties03:25
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ubuntu_so, i cant resize. whats the problem?03:25
ubuntu_i need to split the HD into 2 partitions :(03:25
ubuntu_can someone help me please?03:27
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campbchello03:28
campbchhas anyone had problems with opengl screensavers and been able to fix them? i have the display drivers, and they are installed, but the screensavers are only showing on the top half of the screen03:29
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campbchthis isnt happening anywhere else in any other form of opengl03:29
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Norther_hi all, can any one please help me in installing kubuntu?03:36
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campbchi might be able to03:37
campbchnoone else is around :p03:38
campbchunless there are flames03:38
campbchthen i cant do much :(03:38
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Norther_my problem is that it stops doing anything while loading the live cd stuff03:38
Norther_so i chose "start or install kubuntu" and i works for a few minutes than a blank screen appears and its done03:39
campbchdone? as in, does it start on boot?03:40
campbchare you able to load the live cd?03:40
Norther_it boots from the cd...then a list appears on which the firt element is "start or install kubuntu", i chose that03:41
campbchalright...03:41
Norther_this is as far as i can get03:41
campbchtry it on another computer03:41
campbchit doesn't change anything permanently03:41
campbchand you need to see if its the disk03:41
Norther_i have only two computers, on the second one it does nearly the same03:42
campbchthe chances of it not working on two computers are quite slim, because compatability issues are pretty sparse03:42
campbchalright, have you tried re-burning the image?03:42
campbchor is it a retail cd?03:42
Norther_yes...and i tried the "chech cd for defects" menupoint and it said it's ok03:43
Norther_sorry, what is retail?03:43
Norther_i mean what does taht mean:)03:43
campbchretail as in, sent to you via shipit03:43
Norther_no, i downloaded it03:43
campbchretail in this sense, provided by the distro03:43
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campbchis there a "safe mode" option for the startup?03:44
Norther_yes, but does the same03:44
campbchhmm03:44
campbchdoes it give any messages? if it starts loading, it should say at least something03:44
Norther_may it be the video-card?03:44
Norther_well...03:44
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brownedwg89try the alternate cd03:45
campbchit hadn't done anything with the videocard at that point03:45
campbchgenerally if it says something and freezes after it says it, that thing caused the problems03:45
Norther_first the progress-bar goes left-right-left... about 30 times, and then a new progressbar fills up...and then comes the blank screen03:45
campbchhmm03:46
campbchit should say booting the kernel03:47
campbchloading drivers, mounting filesystem03:47
campbchdoes it say any of that?03:47
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Norther_after pressing enter on "start or install" it says something like that and dots appear continously, as i remember it says something about loading kernel...this is before the progressbar appears03:49
Dark_Vampire!de03:49
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de03:49
campbchhummm03:49
campbchand the progress bar doesn't say anything specific?03:49
Norther_no03:50
campbch:o03:50
campbchi would ignore the disk saying the disk is good, and burn another just to be sure03:50
campbchthey cost 50cents, it might solve your problem03:50
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Norther_it's on an rw:)03:50
campbchhmm03:51
campbchwell03:51
Norther_whats the difference between desktop version and amd64 (os something like that) version?03:52
Dark_Vampirehello03:52
Dark_Vampirehow do i change the user and how my root password?03:52
campbchthey are for different processor architectures03:52
campbchi havent had much experience with 64s, but there might be a difference03:53
Norther_i tried the adm 64 (because i have amd athlon 64 processor...) may that be the problem?03:53
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campbchdoes the other computer have the same processor?03:54
Norther_no03:54
campbchyou said03:54
Norther_:)03:54
campbch"nearly the same" with the other one, what exactly happens?03:54
Norther_well...03:54
Norther_on the other one it stops while the progress bar goes back and forth03:55
Norther_it freezes or something...03:55
Dark_Vampirehow do i change the user and how my root password?03:55
phil_are you wanting to setup a root user03:56
Ahmucksudo passwd root03:56
Ahmuckphil_: can you set up a default root user ?03:56
phil_yes03:57
Ahmuckadmin something ...03:57
phil_no root03:57
Norther_and...brownedwg89 said i should try alternate cd, what is that for?03:57
Ahmuckhow03:57
campbchalternate cd is another way to do things, that works on computers that cant use the other cd03:57
phil_you can enable it in the user management under system settings (kde)03:58
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flaccidwhere to find help on dual head for ati radeon?03:59
campbchyou can use that if you find that the other cd is good03:59
campbchbut not for your system, you see what i mean?04:00
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Norther_yes...but it installs the same, right? it differs only in how it installs?04:01
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campbchyou'd have to look it up04:03
campbchi used the other one, sorry :(04:03
campbchi'm sure it's reasonably self-explanatory, but it might "just work" more so than the other cd04:03
campbchbut again04:03
campbchmake sure it's the software causing problems, rather than the disk just being bad04:04
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Norther_nero is writing it again right now and the alternate cd is downloading, so this night isn't over yet:)04:05
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campbchok, i need to ask one more time before i go to bed - is there any way to fix the opengl screensaver half screen problem? it says it should work if the i810 graphics driver is installed and set in xorg.conf, but it isn't working04:05
Norther_thanks for the help:)04:05
campbchyep, good luck :D04:05
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flaccid!dual04:06
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:06
flaccidhmm howto on dual head for ati?04:06
Dr_willisdual moniutors can be a real pain04:07
flaccidi'm kind of close atm04:07
SmrtJustinI upgraded to Edgy, and now my volume keys are like bound to Kmix, but I'm using xbindkeys and have them tied to aumix commands.  Is KDE or Kmix getting my key presses before xbindkeys can, and if so, how do I stop it?04:08
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campbchhttp://www.madirish.net/tech.php?article=151&section=504:08
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SmrtJustinI can run my aumix commands from a terminal and they work and don't tie into kmix at all, so Kmix/KDE must be grabbing the keys before xbindkeys can04:09
flaccid!dualhead04:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dualhead - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:10
campbchflaccid, did that help? is that what you were looking for?04:10
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flaccidno it didn't04:10
campbch:'(04:11
hfhfyou guys seed kubuntu with bittorrent?04:11
flaccidthere should be a howto04:11
Art_At boot, Kubuntu Edgy overwrites my xorg.conf file, reverting to 640 x 480 res.  Any thoughts?04:11
campbchhttp://www.linuxformat.co.uk/pdfs/LXF68.tut_twinview.pdf04:11
Dr_willishfhf,  proberly faster to use a ftp/http mirror04:11
hfhfdr_willis: The torrents are much faster04:12
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Dr_willishfhf,  they 'can' be..  but  i doubt if they always would be,04:12
campbchtry that one?04:12
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Dr_willislast torrents for the isos i tried took forever.. was faster for me to get the .iso from a nice close mirror.04:13
hfhfWhat I meant was do you guys seed edgy or dapper, I seed edgy because I feel it's one way I can help out04:13
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hfhfReally because every linux iso torrent I get gets me a download of 600+ kbps04:14
hfhfplus I don't feel like clogging up their tubes lol04:16
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Dr_willisproblems with torrents .. at the start no one has it... then you get good speeds once theres a lot of seeders.... then no one cares to seed later... :)04:22
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Dark_Vampireooooooh shit04:24
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igorhow i get .WMV videos plugins?04:31
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OOD!w32-codecs04:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about w32-codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:32
OOD!win32-codecs04:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about win32-codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:33
OOD!win3204:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:33
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Dr_willisi alwyas go get the codec pack from the mplayer homepage04:34
Dr_willis:)04:34
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OODstupid bot is such a perfectionist :P04:35
felixjetwhat happen if i umount hda1 ? (where linux is running xD)04:36
OODthere's a package of the w32 codecs in multiverse04:36
OODso it's easier to just apt-get it04:36
Dr_willis!find codec04:36
ubotuFound: python2.4, python2.5, libavcodec-dev, libavcodec0d, libcommons-codec-java (and 3 others)04:36
Dr_willis!find w3204:36
ubotuFound: mingw32, mingw32-binutils, mingw32-runtime04:36
Dr_willisheh.04:36
OOD!find win3204:36
ubotuFound: avifile-win32-plugin04:36
robotgeekw32codecs is illegal04:36
felixjetwhat happen if i umount hda1 ? (where linux is running xD)04:37
OODno its not04:37
Dr_willisrobotgeek,  thats what i was thinking . its no longer in the repos.. got to use the plf, or mplayer pacakges.04:37
robotgeekyup Dr_willis04:37
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Dr_willisis the PLF still supporting ubuntu?04:37
Dark_Vampirei dont know if its illegal... but does it matter? ^^04:37
Dark_Vampireinformation should be open to anyone04:38
robotgeekDr_willis: i would guess so04:38
martalliIllegality does matter...even if you aren't going to jail, you might find yourself slapped wqith a lawsuit or somesuch...at least consider not installing ibdvdcss and such on the computers at work...04:39
Dr_willisi alwasy get my videos from... err... never mind..04:40
Dark_Vampireok computers on work is sthg different^^04:40
Dr_willis:)04:40
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martalliCan I ask a quick hardware question?04:41
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Dr_willisSure!04:42
Dr_williswhy not!04:42
martalliI have an older homemade comp with a 2500 barton proc, and a nforce2 mb.  The mb died...i have been told that nforce2 isn't the best choice for linux. Should I pick a different chipset or try to find another nforce2?04:42
martalliI was going to replace the mb and maybe donate it to my preschooler's class (maybe sell the idea of edubuntu to the school in the process)04:43
robotgeekmartalli: werent you running linux on it before04:44
martallidual booting xpa nd linux.  I had some problems, but I think it was from the ati aiw card (that was a pre-linux addition)04:45
martallibut see, now I have the "opportunity" to start all over ont he mb and w2ondered if this advice was right, and if there was a better choice04:46
robotgeeki'm new to the 'PC" world, so no clue04:46
Lam_kmplayer didn't purge itself correctly.  how do i remove entries from the "Open with..." drop down?04:48
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lnxkdehow can I make kmix to use OSS instead of alsa?05:07
Dr_willisLam_,  i recall seeing them in the err... hmm where you set file assoications, you can reorder/remove/add those things.05:09
Lam_Dr_willis: lol i have no idea what you're talking about :(05:10
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Dr_willisexplore the os. its where you set file assoications. :P ill have to look for it myself.05:11
Lam_i can go to "Open with..." >> "Other..."05:11
JucatoKonqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations ?05:12
Lam_and it lets me assign a particular command or program to any file association05:12
Lam_mm i'll try that05:12
Dr_willisKonwueror -> settings --> configure --> file assoication05:12
Dr_willis:) logical place for it i guess. lol05:12
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Dr_willishmm.. the .divx icon has a netscape logo.. odd05:13
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Lam_oh wow, it's everywhere05:14
Lam_i have to remove it like, 300 times05:14
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lnxkdehow can I fix this?05:15
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Lam_lol i'm stupid, what a waste of time05:20
Lam_i was wondering why the hell there were so many instances of KMPlayer without a way to remove it, and realized it was in ~/.local/share/applications.  removed it there and they all disappeared05:21
Lam_Dr_willis, Jucato:  thanks05:21
Jucatonp05:22
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gurumeditationerIs it just me or are there kde headers missing in the 6.10 debs?05:24
gurumeditationerIn particular stuff like kactionmenu.h05:24
Jucatokde-devel05:24
gurumeditationerBoth kde-devel and kde-devel-extras installed05:25
Dr_williskde-devel-extra-extras-extra-read-all-all-about-it05:26
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dennistergood evening all05:30
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dennisterhi LeeJunFan05:32
dennisterhas anyone here ever used dvdshrink in linux?05:33
dennisteri was quite happy with it in windoze, but it originated as open source, and I'm wondering why it's not in the repos?05:34
Dr_willisI would guess licensing issues, it may not be fully gpl.. or theres no one wanting to maintain it.05:35
Dr_willis!find dvdshrink05:35
ubotuPackage/file dvdshrink does not exist in edgy05:35
Jucatonot everything that's FOSS are in Ubuntu's repositories05:35
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faked_!wine05:36
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.05:36
dennisteryes, i realize that...i was looking on mr.bass's site (the originator) and he's certainly maintaining it...probably is licensing issues05:36
Dr_willisUbuntu Linux DVDShrink DVDDecrypter Guide  http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/05:37
Dr_willis:)05:37
Dr_willisi tend to just rip dvd to avi...05:37
dennisteri mean, he's using the legal loophole that it is legal to make one backup copy05:37
Dr_willisthen from AVI to PSP format.05:37
Dr_willishmm.. that guide has a few typeos :)05:38
dennistermicroshaft finally sent me my xp/mce disks yesterday, and i don't want to use them without a backup this time...in case it gets cracked/damaged from overuse again :(05:38
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Dr_willisHmm... you are wanting to use dvdshrink for that?05:39
dennisternot that i want to keep reinstalling it, but it's so buggy...Dr_willis: yes05:39
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Dr_willisperhaps i am confused as  what xp/mce disks are... :)05:40
dennisterlike i said: it's fully legal to make one backup copy05:40
Dr_willisfrom an 'os' point of view.. you are licensing the os. .:) i dont see wny you cant legally have several dozen copies..  the media it came on is not the os. :)05:41
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Dr_willisheck they sell pc's wth windows with no media to restore it. heh.05:41
dennisteri used it originally when i was authoring an original training dvd...and i couldn't figure out why 90 minutes of video couldn't fit on a dvd...yes, ur right05:41
Dr_willisbut I dont plan on using windows again any time soon.05:41
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faked_Heeeeeeeey whattup! Long story short, I'm trying to run Oregon Trail in wine, but I have NOOOOOO idea how to use wine since I never really have on my own before, I've always followed a buncha instructions >_>. So how do I get this to run?05:42
Dr_willisAllchin says Vista doesn't need antivirus? Nope.  http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061111-8199.html05:42
Dr_williswine whatever.exe05:42
Dr_willisin its most basic way05:42
Dr_willisfaked_,  isent that a dos game?05:42
dennisteri'd rather not myself, especially now that i'm so close to having mythtv up and running smoothly, but i still need it for collaboration work with publishers05:42
Dr_willisor ya got the re-release-for windows?05:42
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dennistervista/windows not need anti-virus?!!? not likely05:44
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dennisterof course, the ppl you have to be careful of in terms of security for vista is ms themselves05:45
dennisterwhat with their wpa/wga lockouts05:45
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dennisterDr_willis: i'm having a bit of an issue  with sound in mythtv...i can play music there, and it uses mplayer for avi files; I can hear the audio in mplayer without myth, but not in myth...any clues?05:47
dennisteri can also see the video from my tuner in mplayer, but no sound05:49
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Dr_willissounds like codec issues..05:49
Dr_williswhat does mythtv even use to play videos?05:50
Dr_williscan it be set to use some other player. Hmm..05:50
robotgeekDr_willis: depends on whether you decoding is in hw/sw, maybe?05:50
dennisteryes, it's gotta be codecs, but somehow i can't get at the codecs in myth to change them05:50
Dr_willisyea - there is that also05:51
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dennisternow yesterday, with another edgy isntallation, i could hear audio and see video, both from the tuner, using mplayer05:51
dennisterrobotgeek: u intending to install mythtv?05:51
robotgeekdennister: yes, but my current motherboard is broken, and internet does not work. i guess i will tackle that issue later05:52
robotgeeki do have a el cheapo card supposed to work under linux05:52
dennisterand i'm using hw decoding, software encoding, with a hauppauge 25005:52
dennisterwhat's ur card?05:53
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robotgeeki have a sarbent pci card, it is supposed to work, everythign software05:54
dennisterbttv chipset, or conexant?05:54
robotgeekhmm, the mythtv wiki said bttv, i think05:54
robotgeeklemme check05:54
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robotgeekdennister: BT848 chipset05:55
dennisterI'm wondering if i can't change the codecs in mysql-server/phpmyadmin...05:55
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dennisterrobotgeek: ur lucky then...u won't be limited to myth05:56
robotgeekdennister: what do you mean, limited to myth?05:56
dennisterall the other tv apps seem to be bt-based...i didn't have much of a choice about myth05:56
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dennistermy hauppauge uses ivtv drivers, which are incompatible with kdetv, tvtime, xawtv, motiv...05:57
robotgeekdennister: well, all i was shooting for is myth :)05:57
dennisterthat's what i meant about being 'limited to myth'...why do u want myth?05:57
robotgeekhowever, all the brunt of the work will need to be done be my cpu05:57
robotgeekto watch tv, that's about it05:58
dennisterit's extremely challenging to install...u need a whole lamp server, the lirc remotes are a biatch...05:58
dennisteri've only been using linux for 3.5 months, and everyone agrees: mythtv is not for newbies05:59
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juttyhey i havean 80 gig hard drive with windows and ubuntu on it i wanna resize my wndows partition to give linux more space how should i do that?06:00
robotgeekdennister: crap, linux says philips semiconductor06:00
robotgeeki suppose i should return the card.06:01
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tarakhello everyone06:01
dennisterpretty well all the actual progress i've made with mythtv is over the past week..cause with edgy you can download the drivers from repos06:01
dennisterhi tarak06:01
dennisterjutty: u resize windows partition with gparted06:01
juttyit wouldnt let me resize06:02
juttyahh i used qparted06:02
dennisteruse the livecd to /resize/install...no? is the windows full?06:02
robotgeekdennister: got a link, i want to install :)06:02
taraki am pretty new at this, i just installed ubuntu 6.06.. I want to upgrade gaim since it closes by itself as soon as it gets my MSN contact list. I downloaded rpm file from gaim and now i dont know what to do with it06:02
tarakcan someone please help me?06:02
juttyno the windows isnt full06:02
dennisteryes jutty, qt parted won't let u resize06:02
Dr_willistarak,  you are totally doing it wrong.06:02
dennisteror it says it has resized, but it hasn't06:03
tarakDr_willis: please help me do it right06:03
Dr_willistarak,  for starters kubuntu dosent use rpms, it uses the apt-get system  which uses '.debs'06:03
fumbalahtarak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaim_2%2e0_Beta_3_Quick_Install?highlight=%28gaim%2906:03
Dr_willistarak,  the latest ubuntu (edgy) 6.10 just came out a few weeks ago. You may want to install that. It will have newer versions of a lot of things.06:04
juttydo i have to unmout the ntfs partition first?06:04
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juttythats the only option itll give me06:04
dennisterjutty: try the ubuntu or kubuntu livecd...it uses gparted...it will leave the ntfs partition unmounted06:04
dennisterby default06:05
juttycant i just unmount it in gparted right now?06:05
dennisteris there an option to do that? if so, yes06:05
tarakthanks alot Dr_willis , and i will do that as soon as my CDs ship :)06:05
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dennisteru should never try to resize a parition while it's mounted06:05
Dr_willistarak,  you could upgrade to edgy. :) but that may not work well for some people.06:06
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juttyi unmunted it and hen it only gave me the ption to format to:06:06
robotgeekdennister: wow, i think i got lucky. my card is supposed to be "well supported"06:06
dennisterjutty: r u still using qtparted?06:06
juttyno06:06
juttygparted06:06
dennisterrobotgeek: that's great06:06
tarakDr_willis: i have monthly bandwidth limit so i should save it for things i need more :(06:07
dennisterjutty: hmmm...it's been a little while for me since i used the livecd's to install06:07
robotgeekdennister: now to install dvbutils without internet!06:07
dennistergood luck robotgeek...i don't envy u06:07
tarakwhen i double click on my ntfs partition, i get an error unable to mount... can someone please help me to fix it?06:08
dennisterjutty: u certainly do NOT want that windows system drive reformatted06:08
juttyi know06:08
juttyi still wanna use it06:08
juttyjust i want some of the space repartioioned for linux06:08
dennisteri was at a ubuntu-for-newbies meeting tonight, and they were showing how to use gparted to resize a working windoze parition06:09
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xsachantfs partition?06:10
juttyyes06:10
dennisterjutty: u may have to use windows to clean it out, defrag, and resize...although ti's wierd that gparted won't resize it without wanting to format it06:10
juttyim installing ntfstoosl right now06:10
xsachai think resizing ntfs is still unsafe06:11
dennisterxsacha: u probably know more about gparted than i do...06:11
xsachait has worked for me before, but some people have lost data with it06:11
xsachano, i dont use gparted06:11
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dennisterthose blasted ntfs partitions! so picky06:12
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robotgeekdennister: if i install dvb-utils, can i watch tv thru it?06:13
dennisterwhen i'm working with windoze, i typically use tools like parition magic 8 or acronis true image06:13
dennisterdvb is for europe06:13
juttyok i have rssizing started06:13
juttylol06:13
dennisterit's their version of hdtv06:13
robotgeekwhat do i need then? dennister , just analog. no hd stuff for me06:14
dennistergood for u jutty06:14
juttylol thnks for the gparted and ntfstools tip06:14
dennistermotv is supposed to be just a newer version of xawtv...lots of people like tvtime, and there's even kdetv06:14
dennisteri don't think any of them are pvr's tho...where r u robotgeek?06:15
robotgeekdennister: usa.06:15
dennisterok...stay away from vdr then...that's mainly for europe, too...lol, i tried that too, with kanotix06:16
robotgeekcrap, is there a knome utility? i have ubuntu edgy installed.06:16
dennisterrobotgeek: try tvtime06:17
robotgeekthanks06:17
dennisterit might work out of the box, and doesn't take so long to figure out IF it will work06:17
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dennisterrobotgeek: i love edgy cause of the ivtv...but u might find it even easier to install myth with ur bt-based card06:19
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dennisterhey jutty: hows the progress?06:20
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juttyi freed the psace and lessened my windows partition06:20
juttynow i have 25 gigs of unallocated space06:20
dennisterhave u tried out the windows yet?06:20
juttycani add that to my linux partition?06:20
juttynope should i?06:20
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dennistermake sure it's safe...yes06:20
juttybrb06:20
dennisterthen, continue to install the ubuntu06:21
dennistertoo late06:21
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dennisterhi faked_ :)06:21
faked_Hey, my computer got screwy. Did you get my question from before?06:21
dennisterno, sorry?06:22
faked_oh. well then.06:22
faked_Long story short, I dunno how to use wine, but I wanna play Oregon Trail06:22
faked_Halp?06:22
riverHello, I currently have two hardrives, a 40G master with windows, and a 120G slave with pclinuxos, I wish to eliminate the 40G from the computer and make the 120G the Master... how can this be done?06:22
riverpclinuxos=kubuntu, typo06:23
dennistersorry, i haven't tried wine yet...perhaps xsacha?06:23
faked_never heard of it >_>06:23
faked_can I just get it in synaptic or something?06:23
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dennisterriver: you change the drives to master/slave by wiping the windows drive, and using it as a lvm to the linux drive06:23
dennister!wine06:24
ubotuwine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.06:24
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riverdennister, I don't want the windows drive in the computer anymore, I am giving the windows drive away06:24
dennisteru install wine properly first, including from the repos, and then u might be able to install the orgon trail...but that's just my guess06:24
dennisterriver: oh, i c. then u open ur box, take the drive out, and use cable select/jumpers to make it the master06:25
dennisterthe bigger drive is the one u change cables/jumpers with, that is06:26
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dennisterthen, when u refire up the computer with just the remianing drive, the bios should detect the difference06:27
riverdennister, only problem, the root still refers to instelf as hdb06:28
dennisterriver: you will probably have to reconfigure grub's map, too, and do some editing of that06:28
rivershould be hda06:28
riverI am using lilo06:28
riverbtw06:28
dennisteroh, i'm afraid i know nothing of lilo, but u should be able to edit that, too06:28
dennisterriver: i'm afraid this is getting out of my league, so perhaps a more experienced helper than this noob is in order06:29
dennisteri'm used to going into the box and redoing things, but <4 months with Linux means that i don't want to give anyone a bum steer06:30
riverdennister, ok, cool, hopefully someone does know, I think I must edit fstab, but not sure what other files06:30
riverI figured out "redo-lilo" fixes the bootloader06:31
dennisterfstab and lilo, possibly nmap or something like that...the drive mapper06:31
dennisterlol...easier than we thought :)06:31
dennisternow i need to go to bed..after midnight, and i only had 2 tiny naps this morning after being awake for 24 hours06:32
dennisterif jutty comes back, perhaps someone could help him install the ubuntu?06:33
dennisterg'night all06:33
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juttymy windows do work06:37
juttydoes*06:38
juttynow i just need help relocating the unallocated sace to my ubuntu06:38
riverjutty, use Qtparted06:38
juttynot gparted this time?06:38
robotgeekjutty: if you start the installer up, it should automagically use the free spac06:38
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juttywhich installer06:38
juttyi already have a dual boot running btw06:39
juttyim on ubuntu right now06:39
juttyi took space off ntfs partition06:39
juttyand want it used towards ubuntu06:39
robotgeekjutty: oh, cool. what do you need to do then.06:39
riverjutty, yeah, so do what I suggested, go to synaptic and install qtparted06:39
juttyi already did06:39
rivercool06:40
robotgeekjust format it as ext3 using whatever (gparted/qtparted)06:40
juttysomeone else in here was helping me a minute ago06:40
robotgeekjutty: he left, so we are picking up the ball06:40
riverjutty, qtparted will also let you resize the nt partition06:40
juttyahh thanks06:40
juttyi already unallocated the sace off ntfs06:40
robotgeekjutty: cool, it should show up in parted. just right clikc,, and new06:40
juttyprimary or exntened partition?06:41
riverjutty, or you can resize an existing ubuntu parition, as long as its not mounted06:41
river*partition06:41
juttyi would liketo resize my current ubuntu partition06:41
juttybut can i unmount it while running dapper?06:41
riverjutty, no, best to use the kubuntu live cd to do that06:43
juttyso use the dapper live cd run gparted and itll let me umount and resize my existing ext3 ubuntu partition?06:43
riverjutty, unless you want to resize your home partition, which means log out as user, log back in as root06:44
riverthen resize your home06:44
juttyi wanna resize all of ubuntu06:44
juttyif possible06:44
Lam_how do i turn xdmcp on in kubuntu?06:45
riverjutty, how big is your root?06:45
juttyim not sure06:45
Lam_whoops. xdmcp is only on gnome06:45
juttyi that my linux swap?06:45
Lam_.. i think06:45
riverjutty, no, look in qtparted to see its size, its the one labled "  /  "06:46
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juttyit only lists hdc1 2 and 306:46
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riverjutty, which one did you install ubuntu on? (those 3 are your primary partitions06:47
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riveror are your 3 HD devices06:47
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juttyi have 1 hd06:48
jutty3 partitions06:48
juttyone windows and one linux06:48
juttylinux containing swap and ext 3 right?06:48
Digital_PioneerHey, if I delete some files, can I get their names back?06:48
riverjutty, ok, so you didn't make a seperate root and home when you installed then06:48
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juttyi dont think so06:49
riverthat means you must use the live cd if you wish to resize06:49
juttyok thanks06:49
juttyill go try that06:49
robotgeekDigital_Pioneer: there might be some undelete utils for linux, i am not sure06:49
Digital_Pioneerrobotgeek: I'm thinking more like logs.06:49
riverI should have told jutty to just reinstall06:49
Digital_Pioneerrobotgeek: Like, a log that lists file deletions, among other things.06:49
riverand make a seperate home this time :P06:49
robotgeekDigital_Pioneer: nope, unless you logged06:50
Digital_Pioneerrobotgeek: So no logs keep file removals?06:50
Digital_PioneerDoes anyone know of an undelete tool for EXT3?06:51
robotgeekDigital_Pioneer: not sure, sorry06:52
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qu1ckfr0stanyone here know how to install java for firefox on mozilla?06:52
qu1ckfr0sti mean... on kubuntu.06:52
robotgeek!java06:53
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository06:53
robotgeekqu1ckfr0st: ^^06:53
qu1ckfr0stno way to do it through adept?06:53
riverDigital_Pioneer, in linux, no matter file system, files are gone when deleted06:54
robotgeekqu1ckfr0st: enable multiverse, and install it from there06:54
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Digital_Pioneerriver: I just read that deleted files are turned to 0s in the binary...06:54
Digital_Pioneerriver: So I guess that's pretty much the sum of it.06:54
qu1ckfr0strobotgeek: how do i "enable multiverse"06:54
robotgeek!repos06:55
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu06:55
Digital_Pioneerriver: But I'd say that it's only in EXT3, not all Linux.06:55
Lam_!vnc06:55
ubotuvnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.06:55
robotgeekqu1ckfr0st: it is explained in the desktop guide. Kmenu-> help06:55
riverDigital_Pioneer, I have just never heard of any undelete feature ever in linux, would be interested to hear of it though06:55
Digital_Pioneerriver: I did apt-cache search undelete.06:56
Digital_Pioneerriver: This is what I found: recover - Undelete files on ext2 partitions06:56
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dragonfly7Does Beagle work on KDE?06:56
Jucato!kerry06:56
ubotukerry: a KDE frontend for the Beagle desktop search daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 150 kB, installed size 776 kB06:56
riverDigital_Pioneer, interesting, too bad I use Reiser, I am careful06:58
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compilerwriterIs there a handy dandy keyboard mapping software somewhere here in kde?07:03
Digital_PioneerIs there any way to access the journal of my EXT3?07:04
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felixjethi07:05
robotgeekcompilerwriter: K-Menu -> System Setting -?> regions and accessibilty07:05
felixjetwhen i start kubuntu, i directly appear on console mode login. how i switch back to graphical?07:05
Digital_Pioneerfelixjet: What display manager?07:06
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felixjetdigital_pioneer what u mean07:06
robotgeekfelixjet: do you know if your gui works?07:06
felixjetof course07:06
Digital_Pioneerfelixjet: KDM, GDM, XDM?...07:06
felixjetKDM07:06
Digital_Pioneerfelixjet: Have you tried /etc/init.d/kdm restart?07:06
felixjetnope, ill try07:07
felixjetand btw, how to download a compiled kernel?07:07
felixjetthat apt-get install linux headers ...07:07
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felixjetwhich is the correct word, when i use apt-cache i get tons of results, and i cant view them in console07:07
robotgeekfelixjet, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)07:08
felixjetthank you!07:08
felixjetbrb07:08
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compilerwriterrobotgeek that helped me with my numlock key thanks.  I want to swap my cap lock and my left control keys.  Heavy Emacs user.07:09
SpAwN!iso07:10
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robotgeekcompilerwriter: hmm, i use vi :)07:10
robotgeekvim, rather07:11
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compilerwriterI was once a power user of vi, but I switched to emacs in the 90s.07:11
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compilerwriterHoly Christ I just realized I am old.07:11
juttyi tried runing the live cd and running gparted07:12
juttyto rezise my ubuntu partition but it doesnt let me use the unallocated space07:12
CViruscompilerwriter: how old ?07:13
compilerwriterOld enough to have been a power user of vi that switched to gnuemacs.07:13
compilerwriterAt the time emacs was like version 7 I think.  Had really great C coding mode. Kept my variables straight for me and made my code all nice and tidy.07:14
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felixjetdamn it07:15
robotgeekemacs is now v 9? (21.x)07:15
felixjeti cant run xorg07:15
felixjetwhen i start kubuntu, appears directly the console mode07:16
robotgeekfelixjet: check logs in /var/log/xorg.log07:16
felixjetand that kdm restart didnt work07:16
xsachagotta love burn: http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/552/burnyl6.png07:16
robotgeeklook for lines with (EE)07:16
jontechow do I add a directory to my path?07:16
felixjethow i do in console?07:16
jontecso that I can access it through Konsole?07:16
compilerwritergnome had a keymapper I sure kde has one here somewhere I just can't seem to find it.07:17
felixjet!xorg07:17
robotgeekfelixjet: cd /var/log/07:17
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:17
felixjetrobotgeek i mean how to open the log in a console mode07:17
robotgeekfelixjet: pico xorg.log07:17
robotgeekor less07:17
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xsachafelixjet: vim /var/log/Xorg.0.log07:17
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felixjetokey07:17
felixjetbrb, its so annoying quit irssi to do things xD07:18
robotgeekxsacha: please dont recommend vim to a new user07:18
robotgeekor emacs, for the matter07:18
Jucatonano at least, or Kate :P07:18
xsachagah he quit irssi07:19
Jucatoah he's on CLI? nano then :P07:19
juttyhey r obotgeek07:19
juttyi ran live cd but it wouldnt let me use the unallocated space to resize my partition07:20
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felixjetback, okey the file was called Xorg.0.log07:20
felixjetand the (EE) i found was about nvidia cannot load his module07:21
xsachafelixjet: try alt+f2 and then alt+f1 right now07:21
compilerwritervim isn't all that bad robotgeek. and Hell emacs has a tutorial.07:21
felixjetthanks xsacha haha xD07:21
jontecwhere is .profile located on Kubuntu? I need to add something to my path07:21
xsachaso you can open your Xorg.0.log right now :) and stay on irssi07:22
robotgeekcompilerwriter: same with vim too07:22
robotgeekfelixjet: did you install the binary driver ?07:22
compilerwriteryes it does.  It isn't quite as obvious though.07:22
felixjetyes, but while installing, it sais that installation cant find a precompiled kernel, and it needs to compile a new one07:22
compilerwriterEveryone should learn vim though.  You never know when you might be in a situation where that is all that you might have.07:22
felixjetand then, it gives 2 errors about can not find X directorys, and will put files in /usr/lib/ by default07:23
Jucatofelixjet: did you install the nvidia-glx package? or you got the driver from nvidia.com?07:23
felixjetfrom nvidia07:23
Jucatoah... no wonder...07:23
compilerwriterNow can someone please tell me how one rebinds ones keys in kde?07:23
felixjeti forgot aptitude... xd07:23
Jucatocompilerwriter: you mean keyboard shortcuts?07:24
robotgeekcompilerwriter: oh, sorry. it thought you already found it07:24
felixjeti only need to download and install it right? dont need to uninstall the old ones07:24
jontecjoin #ubuntu07:24
juttyyou have any idea why it wouldnt let me use the unallocated space to resize my partition?07:24
jontecwrong place sorry07:24
compilerwriterNope No joy.07:24
felixjetwhat about nvidia-kernel-source ? i need it?07:25
compilerwriterI did find where to tun my numlock on on login though.  That was a plus.  I was getting tired of accidently moving my cursor about.07:25
robotgeekcompilerwriter: damn, i dont have my kde up currently. sec07:25
Jucatocompilerwriter: keyboard shortcuts?07:25
compilerwriterno jucato.  I need remap I want to swap to keys on the keyboard.07:26
compilerwriterNeed the caps lock to function as ctrl and vice versa.07:26
Jucatofelixjet: I would guess you need linux-restricted-modules-xxxx too?07:26
Jucatocompilerwriter: I'm not sure, but in Keyboard Shortcuts, there's a tab there called Modifier Keys07:27
felixjetwhich one? i have generic right now07:27
robotgeekcompilerwriter: http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs-en/MovingTheCtrlKey07:27
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felixjetis not better 386 or 686 ??07:27
Jucatofelixjet: then linux-restricted-modules-generic07:27
compilerwriterThat might be it, but I have no clue how that works.  Will that remap it for just emacs or for good.07:28
Jucatogeneric encompasses all architectures (except PPC and AMD64)07:28
Jucatocompilerwriter: for good, I think...07:28
juttyarg07:29
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dragonfly7What is the application that lets you have desktop widgets in KDE?07:30
dragonfly7!widgets07:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about widgets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:31
dragonfly7!widget07:31
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about widget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:31
dragonfly7!gdesklets07:31
ubotugDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/07:31
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Jucato!superkaramba07:31
ubotusuperkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org07:31
Jucatodragonfly7: ^^^^07:31
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dragonfly7Jucato: thank you. I couldn't remember the name.07:32
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felixjet!configure xorg07:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about configure xorg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:33
felixjetmmmmm07:33
felixjet!x07:33
ubotuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto07:33
felixjethow to reconfigure it?07:33
Jucatosudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:34
Jucatofelixjet: ^^^^07:34
felixjetthanks07:34
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felixjetpffffff07:37
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felixjeti just reinstalled kubuntu and now ill need to do again coz i cant run graphical mode07:37
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thuanhello, which pkg I need to install to get alsa c header files?07:37
Lam_!krdc07:38
ubotukrdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 498 kB, installed size 968 kB07:38
felixjet!xserver07:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:38
felixjet!dpgk-reconfigure07:38
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ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dpgk-reconfigure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:38
Lam_is krdc only a connection platform?  it doesn't provide a feature to enable the computer to become host?07:38
larson9999anyone here give win .9.25 a try in edgy?  i wonder if it fixes things07:38
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Jack1hi guys07:41
Jack1can anyone help?07:41
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Jack1after an correct upgrade to edgy eft, i cannot login anymore, but from console with startx i can enter a gnome session07:42
Jack1if i enter my details it kicks me out to the login screen after few seconds07:42
Jack1someone told me it might be with xauthority related07:42
Jack1there is enough space on all partitions07:43
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robotgeekJack1: you said gnome?07:45
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robotgeekJack1: why not try #ubuntu (or some overflow thing pushed you ehre)07:46
robotgeekJack1: i would try deleting .xauthority, and rm -rf .ICE-authority07:47
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chatoroshi everybody07:48
chatoroshow i can get channels ??07:48
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phisrowGreetings all. Could any of you tell me how to have a script execute on login with KDE?08:02
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soundmaster80does anyone have an idea when the 9629 nvidia driver will be added to the repos?08:11
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soundmaster80does anyone have an idea when the 9629 nvidia driver will be added to the repos?08:14
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xsachasoundmaster80: i think they arent adding it because it has a few bugs and doesn't work on old gpus08:16
xsachais it 2xx and 3xx or something?08:16
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soundmaster806600gt?08:18
soundmaster80well, if it has bugs still then i'll leave it alone08:18
suslikJust installed 6.10, LCD's backlight stays on after "xset dpms force off" Does it work properly for anyone? Not sure under what category to file a bug.08:19
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Linux_Galoresuslik: I have a feeling kde can overirde the X defaults for that, have you looked in kcontrol08:22
suslikI went fairly deep into the wiki and acpi scripts. No matter which way you start, in the end, the scipts call "xset dpms force off", In my special case followed by "radeontools !#$!"08:26
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suslik<Linux_Galore> for most people, "xset" kills the backlight, if "vbetool dpms off" does. In my case, vbetool DOES kill the backlight, but xset doesn't. So if anyone's LCD's light shuts off and they are not on Radeon, it's either generic ACPI in the kernel, or the X's ati driver08:31
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T3hWiz0rdyay kubuntu! init 1 crashes you! j00 rule!08:36
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suslik<T3hWiz0rd>: That's nothing. Fedora Core 6 seg faults on boot if you put reaiser partition in fstab - that was very fun to troubleshoot.08:38
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youserhey my dapper updated and went from tcl/tk 8.4 to 8.5 now my amsn oesnt work any help there?08:41
T3hWiz0rdanyone know why kubuntu wont save the changes i make to the power saver settings for the LIFE of it08:42
JucatoT3hWiz0rd: in Dapper? I think it's a bug08:43
T3hWiz0rdedgy08:43
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Jucatohm.. that's strange..08:43
T3hWiz0rdit'll save it unti lX restarts08:44
T3hWiz0rdthe second X restarts08:44
suslikYeah, it reverts to the defaut 3h (or something like that) for me as well.08:44
T3hWiz0rdback to 5 hours it goes and 5 hours is bullshit.08:44
T3hWiz0rdpardon my french of cours08:45
Jucatofrom the Monitor & Display -> Power saving tab?08:45
T3hWiz0rdyup08:46
suslik<Jucato>: Yeh, that's the one.08:46
T3hWiz0rdit auto reverts to 5 hours08:46
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Jucatohm... that's strange... I disabled it and it has stayed disabled...08:46
T3hWiz0rdits so annoying i almost want to leave kubuntu cos its not worth blowing my hardware or causing screen burn08:46
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Jucatothe last time I remember having this kind of problem was Dapper with KDE 3.5.4...08:46
T3hWiz0rdall i know is its annoying and im about to drop kubuntu over it08:47
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suslik<T3hWiz0rd>: it's the little things, aren't they :)08:48
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T3hWiz0rdwell this little thing can cause a costly hardware problem at some point08:48
T3hWiz0rdas my monitor is aging and screen burn is an increasing concern for me08:48
T3hWiz0rdi've never heard of something as dumb as a 5 hour default for power saver options08:49
youserhey my dapper updated and went from tcl/tk 8.4 to 8.5 now my amsn oesnt work any help there?08:49
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suslikMy distro is Osuse 10.1, following the news, went investigating other distros. Tried to spend a week on each one. Could't handle Fedora - KDE is too crude, too stock. No button for suspend in shutdown dialog. In kubuntu - my monitor whouldn't sleep at all. It's always the little nags that spoil the fun.08:51
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firephotoT3hWiz0rd: the timeout setting is working here.08:53
suslikI would expect a lot of former OSuse ppl to come to Kubuntu and whine about little things. Suse's attention to details spoil users for good.08:53
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suslik<firephoto>: Do you know what Kubuntu calls in the end to save the setting? Is it part of KDE config, or one of the system services?08:55
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JucatoSession Manager?08:55
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firephotoT3hWiz0rd: I don't think mine is set from that mon n disp settings though, I see that uses admin.. must be in my ~/.kde somewhere.08:55
Jucatothe one with Restore from previous session stuff?08:55
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firephotosuslik: no, not sure what you mean08:55
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nige_anyone running a billion7402gl adsl modem?08:57
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T3hWiz0rdthis has been a known bug in kde for quite some time08:58
firephotothat display module doesn't work anyway (again), i have a custom xorg.conf for my twinview setup is the reason I think.08:58
T3hWiz0rdand still not fixed.08:58
firephotoT3hWiz0rd, it works fine with a plain kde, it's the kubuntu tweaks that killed it.08:58
firephotoi'm sure i have the setting in my ~/.kde is why it works fine here.08:59
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firephotoI had fixed it (or figured a way around it) when I had dapper so that why I got the timeout values set I'm sure.09:01
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Jack1hi09:02
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Jack1i got this login problem after an edgy upgrade, i read i could bypass this by setting up a new user09:03
Jack1can i set up a new root user too?09:03
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lucahi everyone09:06
Jack1hi09:06
lucadoes someone know how to fix an unmounting swap partition problem?09:06
lucamine is not mounted, which means I have slow computer and 1 gb wasted :(09:07
Jack1swap is never mounted09:07
Jack1(well i'm not sure) better ask the cracks here09:07
lucait is not active nor mounted09:08
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lucaI have checked with the proper command someone gave me here09:08
lucaok thanx anyway :)09:08
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Jack1it is not used with /09:10
Jack1its just swap09:10
Jack1its different09:10
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weedarAnyone here using ksynaptics? First of all whenever I turn on SHMConfig in xorg.conf the mouse-pointer is "pulled" to the upper-left part of the screen and when shutting down the syndock application crashes with sigfault 1109:16
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youserwhats the best workign amsn i cn have right now?09:20
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shinobi2howto enable mouse in vim?09:33
robotgeekshinobi2: gvim, you mean?09:34
shinobi2nope, vim09:34
shinobi2xterm09:34
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youserdamn amsn and tcltk09:36
unix_infidelshinobi2: you mean mouse scrolling?09:36
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shinobi2unix_infidel: i mean mouse as click and position cursor over there.09:38
unix_infidelshinobi2: that's gvim.09:38
unix_infideli dont think there's a way to do that in xterm+vim09:39
unix_infidelor...hmm, lemme fire up linux, might be.09:39
shinobi2unix_infidel: ....=(09:39
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Dark_Vampire!de09:56
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:56
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houssemhello !09:59
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Werdnumanybody here good with openvpn on k/ubuntu?10:00
anthony_bonjour10:01
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srednaHi10:01
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srednaHow can I see a list of files owned by a package?10:01
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Jucatosredna: dpkg -L <.deb package> ?10:03
pihhanhello10:04
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srednaJucato: I don't know where the package is, but it is installed10:04
pihhanhow can i control order of my sound cards in alsa?10:04
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srednaI need to figure out where the qt4 package put it's binaries10:05
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Jucatosredna: ah10:05
Jucatohold on... you can do it in the apt:/ kioslave but if you want a command line equivalent....10:05
pihhansredna: try opening its package in ark10:05
pihhandpkg -L does display its files once it is installed10:06
houssemdoes anyone have runed emule with wine ??10:06
robotgeeksredna: isn't there a qt-config command10:08
srednarobotgeek: Yes, but how would I know where it was put?10:08
robotgeekoh, locate maybe?10:08
robotgeekor find :)10:08
srednaIt was renamed to qtconfig-qt4, but it does not help10:09
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srednaAt least I probably need to compile qt4 on my own10:09
srednaAnd install it properly10:09
Jucatosredna: I could find the apt command for it, but in Konqueror, you can use apt:/ to search for the package and see its descriptions, including the files that it installs10:09
Jucatosredna: better talk to Riddell or some of the devs, they know better when it comes to development. (that would include robotgeek :P)10:10
lainprolianti am trying to compile a program with pango as a dependency (gens-rc3), and its throwing linker errors at me10:10
robotgeekheh, i tht sredna was a dev :)10:10
Jucatorobotgeek: yes, but only recently using Kubuntu, iirc10:10
lainproliant /usr/bin/../lib/libpangooft2-1.0.so.0: undefined reference to 'pango_font_description_get_gravity' and six others10:11
robotgeekhmm, okay10:11
lainprolianti downloaded and installed from source from ftp.gtk.org pango 1.1510:11
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lainproliantits kinda odd because i compiled wxWidgets from source and it required pango as well10:12
lainproliantmaybe gens-rc3 doesn't like me lol10:12
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manielhi10:13
realfolkblueshi people10:13
lainprolianthello10:13
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manielwhat's the default windeco in kubuntu dapper?10:13
JucatoCrystal10:14
Ace2016Hi all10:14
manieli found it nice and wanted to install it in my distro:)10:14
JucatoEdgy also has Crystal, but modified kubuntu buttons10:14
manielthanks:)10:15
Ace2016is there any sort update block list or something? i've installed 0pen0ffice 2.0.3 and i want adept to stop trying to update it, 00 2.0.4 keeps crashing a lot10:15
realfolkbluesI just installed 6.10 and it boots up to a screen full of weird colors. So i tryed to do the f1 thing to bring up a commang line to configure x but it wont bring up the command line any help?10:15
lainprolianthmm10:15
lainprolianti had that problem with this laptop too10:15
lainprolianta framebuffer issue it may be10:15
lainprolianttry removing splash from the kernel parameters in your /etc/fstab if possible10:16
Jucatorealfolkblues: Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?10:16
realfolkblueslainproliant: i cant bring up command how do i do that?10:16
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Jucatolainproliant: actually, it would be /boot/grub/menu.lst10:16
lainproliantdo you get a grub menu?10:16
lainproliantoh that's right10:16
lainprolianthehe stupid me10:16
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lainproliantfstab is a list of mounts10:16
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nickstehey all10:17
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nicksteHow can I check my current screen refresh rate?10:17
lainproliantthanks jucato :P10:17
realfolkbluesJucato: lol thanks i was doing ctrl f1 i feel dumb10:17
Jucatorealfolkblues: I think Alt+F1 would also do it10:17
lainproliantwell, if i didn't remove splash, i would still eventually make it to X10:17
realfolkbluesJucato: i did that also did not work only ctrl+alt+f1 works for me10:17
lainproliantbut if i tried to use any virual consoles, it would fade to odd colors again lol10:18
lainproliantvirtual*10:18
Ace2016can't you add a command to grub? by editing the startup line to remove the frame buffer?10:18
realfolkbluesJucato: whats that reconfigure x command?10:18
Jucatosudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:18
realfolkbluesJucato: i'm noob still10:18
realfolkbluesJucato thanks!10:18
lainproliantthat's what i had to do Ace201610:18
JucatoAce2016: you can edit menu.lst or do the modifications in the GRUB menu10:19
lainproliantyep ^_^10:19
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lainproliantwell, i am going to tackle this installation again10:19
lainproliantstupid pango always gives me problems lol10:19
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Ace2016Jucato: i know i was just asking if it is possible to remove the frame buffer10:19
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Jucatoah a grub option? hm... probably10:20
pihhanis there some voip phone in kubuntu or universe?10:20
Ace2016skype?10:21
Jucato!voip10:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about voip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:21
Jucatoer..10:21
Jucato!skype10:21
ubotuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto10:21
Jucato:p10:21
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fdoving!kphone10:21
ubotukphone: Voice over IP (VoIP) phone application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.2-6 (edgy), package size 406 kB, installed size 1260 kB10:22
realfolkblues6.10 supports mtp mp3 players now right?10:22
Jucato?10:22
realfolkbluesJucato: mtp aka playforsure players10:22
Jucatoah..10:22
pihhanah10:23
pihhankphone should have use audio tag10:23
pihhani think10:23
realfolkbluesi like the new look of 6.1010:27
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realfolkbluesawww sweet! 6.10 has my wireless driver now lol10:27
srednaIs there some utility in ubuntu to select a specific version of something?10:30
srednaLike, which java or automake to use?10:30
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Jucatosredna: if they are installed already? I only know of "sudo update-alternatives --config java"10:31
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fdovingsredna: nothing graphical as far as i know. but you have 'update-alternatives' on the commandline. it's basically managing the symlinks in /etc/alternatives/10:31
Jucatosredna: you might want to look into /etc/alternatives for other options10:31
Jucatoer there10:31
fdoving:)10:31
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srednaUpdate-alternatives is fine10:31
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srednaI just hope I can select a version of qt10:32
fdovingyou can select qmake atleast.10:32
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srednaOtherwise, I don't understand how I am supposed to use kubuntu as a kde4 development platform10:32
Jucatofdoving: maybe you can help him. :P10:33
srednaIf I can't select the entire thing I will remove the ubuntu qt4 packages and compile and install properly10:33
srednaBecause there are a bunch of stuff that needs to be in place10:33
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robotgeeksredna: at this point, maybe ping someone in #kubuntu-devel :)10:34
srednarobotgeek: That could be an idea :)10:35
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realfolkbluesis there a way to find out who added support for my wireless card caus i want to thanks him lol it was a pain in the ass to get to work in dapper10:36
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ignehhello10:37
pihhanrealfolkblues: changelog it its package?10:37
ignehi'm trying to install kde from ubuntu...i did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop10:38
ignehnow my loginscreen is kde-like, it still starts in gnome10:38
realfolkbluespihhan maybe :)10:38
ignehanyone know what went wrong?10:38
Jucatoigneh: did you choose "KDE" in the Session menu?10:39
ignehmm10:39
ignehsession menu?10:39
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ignehi could have missed that... brb10:39
Jucatoigneh: yes. under the menu options in the login screen10:40
ignehwhoops10:40
ignehbrb :)10:40
realfolkblueshmmmm my wireless can seee networks but cant connect to em10:40
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realfolkbluesanyone got any ideas?10:43
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ignehok, <- new :)10:43
realfolkbluesigneh hi10:44
ignehlove KDE tho :)10:44
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ignehanother thing... tried to install ati drivers10:45
realfolkbluesi love the internet but i cant connect right now :(10:45
Jucato!ati | igneh10:45
ubotuigneh: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:45
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ignehok :p10:45
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realfolkbluesJucato hey do you know anything about wireless beaing able to see networks but not connect?10:46
Jucatorealfolkblues: sorry, no10:46
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Flosofthey10:47
FlosoftI am looking for an IAX Client that works10:47
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Flosoftany good ones in the Repo's?10:47
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FlosoftI used IDEFISK before, but there is no package for Ubuntu :(10:48
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realfolkbluesHAHA got it working nice10:48
JucatoFlosoft: you can try looking in http://packages.ubuntu.com or type "apt:/" in Konqueror for a nice interface10:48
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igneh    *10:51
igneh      Generate a new set of module dependencies so the fglrx driver starts properly.10:51
ignehif the disabled list is empty i assume its ok?10:51
ignehnm10:51
ignehgot it10:51
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igneh!ati11:01
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto11:01
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ignehwow think it worked :)11:03
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realfolkbluesi'm impressed that kubuntu has a 64bit driver for my wireless card when windows does not even have one11:10
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momalIf I copyed everything in / (/dev/hda1) over to /dev/hdb1 then changed fstab to mount /dev/hdb1 as / would my system be fine after doing it?.. or would something else have to be changed ? only thing I can think of that would need changing would be grub.11:13
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robotgeekmomal: i think you would need to run grub, rest all should be fine11:15
momalwhat you mean by run grub? to set up MBR?11:15
robotgeekmomal: yes11:16
pihhanuse grub-install11:16
MRMorefield-ftwhat is the command to remove something?11:16
MRMorefield-ftremove?11:16
MRMorefield-ftdelete11:16
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momalMRM: rm ?11:17
MRMorefield-ftok11:17
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momalrobotgeek, pihhan: thanks :)11:17
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brettI am having trouble installing a new game I downloaded of of the internet. Can someone help me trouble shoot it pls11:19
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techNiKalhi is there any software to create your own cbt in your own languages ? i want to create cbt for my language can anyone guide me about it please ?11:19
realfolkbluesi love automatrix11:20
brettrealfolkblues: How did you install automatrix?11:20
pihhanbrett: one think you have to know: you should install application with packages11:21
joe3kbrett: what game?11:21
brettpihhan: i dont understand?11:21
bretttremulous11:21
pihhanbrett: if there is not such package or it does not work, start looking for web to donwload something11:22
bretti downloaded the .run file11:22
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brettthen tried clicking on it11:22
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pihhanbrett: linux is not single platform, installing programs is little bit different than in windows11:22
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brettpihhan: yeah i know... but how it is different and how to install i am still a little lost on11:23
robotgeekbrett: usually you install files using adept11:23
pihhanbrett: check your package manager, if there is not such package11:23
brettok11:23
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bretthow do i check the package mananger11:23
pihhanif you tell us name ot your game, we can help you more11:23
brettpihhan: tremulous11:24
pihhanmenu/system/adept11:24
joe3kbrett: it's in repos11:24
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pihhantype app name11:24
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brettpihhan: in the console type that?\11:24
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joe3kbrett: you can use adept or synaptic11:24
brettok when i open adept how do i install trem?11:24
pihhanbrett: no, in kde menu find adept icon11:24
joe3kbrett: alternatively if you like cmd line apt-cache search tremulous11:24
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pihhanyou have to first find your package11:25
pihhanso type game name into search box :)11:25
brettpihhan: i have adept open11:25
brettpihhan: how do i install with adept11:25
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joe3kbrett: klick on the package and select install11:26
bretti dont see the package11:26
momaltype tremulous in the box11:26
brettmomal: i did....nothing came up11:26
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Chameleon22i rebooted, not sure what happened before but all of the sda devices went mssing and now none of the USB devices (usb drive, usb flash drive, ipod) are loading - any suggestions?11:27
momalhmm repos musn't be set up correctly.. its there because thats how I installed it :p11:27
momalcan you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file onto http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca11:27
brettmomal: i am quite certain something is set up wrong11:27
brettmomal: ok...i was editing that earlier and might of screwed it up11:28
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shankygood morning11:29
brettmomal: i posted it11:29
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momalcan you link me to the post please11:30
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brettmomal: ok11:30
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brettmomal: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/24655611:30
shankyI have edgy installed with everything updated, but I can't find any package related to freenx I specially look for knx11:30
brettmomal: when i first installed kubuntu this morning the add remove programs had a list of games that were availible and now they are no longer on the list11:31
brettmomal: in case it helps.11:31
typecastshanky: seems like there is no deb-package for it. so you'll have to compile it from source :/11:32
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momalbrett: backup your old sources.list file then copy this | http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/246560 | into your sources.list file and change all the occurences of edgy to dapper11:34
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brettmomal: ok doing that now11:35
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BrightEyes_hello.how can i add installation sources on kubuntu?11:37
pihhansudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list for example11:37
pihhanor manage with adept program11:38
brettmomal: ok done... should i restart now?11:38
momaljust open up adept and click fetch updates11:38
pihhanbrett: no, only do update of sources in adept11:38
BrightEyes_pihhan: which path sources are the best to add?11:38
pihhanBrightEyes_: i dont understand11:38
brettpihhan: what do you mean?11:38
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pihhanbrett: man, check how many buttons you have there11:39
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pihhanone of them is update or something like11:39
pihhanpress it11:39
brettpihhan: in adept?11:39
momalbrett: sudo apt-get update OR click fetch updates in adept11:39
pihhanbrett: yeah11:39
BrightEyes_momal: i want to add extra sources...to get mplayer etc11:40
brettpihhan: below the menu you mean?11:40
brettpihhan: i have 611:40
BrightEyes_i installed everything about xfce and when i get into xfce it brings a blue screen waiting to load up smth and then it stops and i have to reboot11:40
brettmomal: i did the sudo one and it failed several but others went through11:41
pihhanbrett: is that so hard read the name below button?11:41
brettpihhan: huh?11:41
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pihhanbrett: i dont know how your button is called, as i have czech localization11:41
pihhanjust push that damn rotated arrows button11:42
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brettpihhan: fetch updates? i pushed it11:42
BrightEyes_brett which sources i should add?11:42
brettBrightEyes_: huh? i don't know?11:42
pihhanBrightEyes_: dont know about sources for kubuntu11:42
momalBrightEyes_: post your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca for me11:42
momalbrett:  http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktopasofnow1du9.jpg <--11:43
momalthat fetch updates button11:43
pihhanBrightEyes_: but there is debian-multimedia at http://www.debian-multimedia.org/11:43
pihhanmight or might not work, dont know :)11:43
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brettmomal: yeah i pushed it.... trem still doesnt apear11:44
momalbrett: can you repost your sources.list for me again how it is right now11:44
brettmomal: ok11:44
momalmplayer is in the reps so it should show up for him11:44
brettmomal: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/24656711:45
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Chameleon22i rebooted, not sure what happened before but all of the sda devices went mssing and now none of the USB devices (usb drive, usb flash drive, ipod) are loading - any suggestions?11:45
momalbrett: --11:46
momalgpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 437D05B511:46
momalgpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -11:46
momal--11:46
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momalbrett: run those 2 lines in console11:46
brettmomal: just type that into the console?11:46
brettmomal: ok11:46
houssem_which command to know the space available on my partitions ??11:46
pihhandf -h in console11:47
houssem_thanks11:47
brettmomal: that second line is one whole command right? not two different commands?11:49
brettmomal: i ran it and it said no ultimatlely trusted keys found11:49
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ehirdokay, why isn't kontact in kmenu?11:49
brettmomal: the first command seemed to do something without error... there was a warning but no error11:50
momalyea thats fine.. the second line is 2 commands but its meant to be put on 1 line when you type it11:50
momalok now11:50
momaltype | sudo apt-get update | and if you get any errors post the erros onto paste bin for me11:50
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brettmomal: type the | before sudo as well?11:50
momalno11:51
momaljust11:51
momalsudo apt-get update11:51
brettok running it11:51
noelvishello all11:51
brettgetting some errors but still running11:51
momalyea then copy everything it says onto http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/11:52
brettmomal: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/24657311:52
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ehird:/11:53
momalahh crap11:53
momalclose adept :p11:53
noelvisrunning XP+Kubuntu: How do I create a bulletproof bootdisk/cd?11:53
brettmomal: oh ...heh11:53
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momalthen sudo apt-get update again11:53
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brettmomal: ok11:53
brettmomal: looks like it is running a little better this time11:53
brettmomal: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/24657711:54
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momalgarhh.. im outta ideas... as to why its not connecting at all11:55
brettmomal: hmm11:56
momalits as if its not getting netconnection11:56
brettmomal: linux is confusing... i was just about to reinstall and hope it fixes something11:56
momalping google.com <- put that in konsole and if you get some packets recived you have the net fine11:56
realfolkblueshey whats the linux version of ipconfig?11:56
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momalrealfoldblues: ifconfig11:57
brettmomal: yup pinging fine11:57
momalrealfolkblues:**11:57
noelvishow do I make a startup disk?11:57
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realfolkbluesmomal: ?11:59
momalifconfig11:59
realfolkbluesmomal: thx11:59
typecastnoelvis: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=6747.new12:00
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brettmomal: do you think the reinstall might get it to work?12:00
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momalyou could try... but i don't think it would but if its not trouble you could try that12:00
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brettyeah no trouble... just installed it this morning12:01
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it06158_i installed xmms and it doesnt recoginize the fonts!!! what can i do?? when i right click for the menus i can't read anything12:01
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brettmomal: thanks for the help... i downloaded the distro again... i think this is a slightly different version... might work12:03
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joe3kbrett: can you point your browser to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ ?12:03
brettjoe3k: ok12:04
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joe3kbrett: does it work?12:04
brettjoe3k: yup12:04
momalbrett: you might want to download kubuntu edgy and use that if your going to reinstall.12:04
joe3kbrett: do you have http proxy configured in your browser?12:04
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brettmomal: i think that is the distro i just downloaded12:04
youseri have the most ridiculous problem ever12:05
brettjoe3k: i dont know12:05
youserits ridiculous12:05
joe3kbrett: hm than probably not :)12:05
momaljoe3k: he was able to ping google.com fine from the console so...12:05
joe3kwell i'd check it anyway12:05
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dinosaur-rushi12:06
joe3kbrett: do you use konq or firefox?12:06
momalyouser: you should just scream then say your problem :p12:06
brettjoe3k: kon12:06
realfolkblues:( i cant get my wireless to connect it did it once and now it's beaing mean to me12:06
joe3kbrett: so go plz to settings / proxy12:06
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brettjoe3k: but plan on switching once i get everything working12:06
joe3kbrett: settings -> konq settings ->proxy12:06
youseri cant  log into amsn or gaim " wrong username or password" for amsn and "unable to authenticate .net passport" for gaim12:06
momalwhat about kopete?12:07
brettjoe3k: ok12:07
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youserim using a gmail account that i got a .net passport with so i email microsoft they eail me back saying i can use msn, all .net passport log ins12:07
realfolkbluesi can see networks but cant connect to them got any ideas anyone?12:07
momalyouser: try using kopete and tell me what happens12:07
youserwhats kopete?12:07
xsachaIM program12:08
youseralright ill go dl it12:08
xsachaand a damn good one12:08
xsachacomes preinstalled12:08
realfolkbluesxsacha! hey dude12:08
youseris it in synaptic?12:08
momalits like gaim it has pretty much ever protocol in it12:08
xsachayou have it.. i think12:08
brettjoe3k: what next12:08
momalif you have kde.. it would have gone in by default im pretty sure12:08
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momalK>internet>kopete12:08
joe3kbrett: what is selected? direct connection?12:08
brettjoe3k: yes12:09
youseri have dapper gnome12:09
dinosaur-rusis there alsa vevelopment package?12:09
joe3kok12:09
brettjoe3k: connect to internet directly12:09
youseri can log onto my msn account fine but not my gmail .net passport?12:09
realfolkbluesxsacha: got a little time?12:09
youserriridulous12:09
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momalcan you login to the .net passport on www.passport.net ?12:10
momalthe gmail one12:10
youseri can log into my gmail12:10
xsachabusy, studying12:10
youserill check pasport.net though to make sure12:10
realfolkbluesxsacha:aww ok12:10
joe3kbrett: can you try wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg12:10
joe3kbrett: in cmd line12:10
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momalif you can login to www.passport.net with it then something wrong at your end if you can't its a microsoft problem.12:11
brettjoe3k: ok did that12:11
joe3kbrett: did it work?12:11
brettjoe3k: i think so12:11
joe3kbrett: you should have Release.gpg in your current dir, which you can safely remove :)12:11
youserahh i think my gmail.net password is diff then regular gmail pw12:11
youserwhich i dont remember being12:11
brettjoe3k: ok12:11
brettmomal: i am almost done burning edgy and i am going to try it once it is done12:12
youserfucking microsoft!!arrgghh12:12
youserlol12:12
joe3kbrett: well seems apt is somehow misconfigured12:12
momallol.. what ever you have set in the .netpassport when you signed up for it and selected to use your gmail account you need to use that pw.... just run the forgot password and you should beable to get it to email like a reset password link to your gmail email12:12
momal!language12:13
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.12:13
youserwhoops12:13
brettjoe3k: yes it is definatly wrong somewhere12:13
joe3kbrett: it can't download the packages though the connection is actually working12:13
dinosaur-rus!alsa12:13
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin12:13
dinosaur-rus!alsa-dev12:13
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about alsa-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:13
brettjoe3k: yeah it seems that way but the connection is fine12:13
momal!info alsa-dev12:13
ubotuPackage alsa-dev does not exist in any distro I know12:13
brettjoe3k: i really think the reinstall might work12:13
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dinosaur-rusoh12:13
momaldinosaur-rus: its prob under a dif name12:14
brettjoe3k: unless you have more ideas i will log off now and try a fresh install with a new cd12:14
dinosaur-rus!info libalsa12:14
ubotuPackage libalsa does not exist in any distro I know12:14
joe3kbrett: good luck ;-)12:14
brettjoe3k: thanks12:14
brettmomal: thanks again12:15
momal!info libasound212:15
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brettsee you guys later12:15
ubotulibasound2: ALSA library. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.11-7ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 316 kB, installed size 1120 kB12:15
momal^_-12:15
youserwhooooo12:15
momalthere is also libasound2-dev12:15
realfolkbluescan somone help me with my wireless beaing funny12:15
dinosaur-rusmomal: oh, thx a lot! that seems to be what I was looking for12:16
momalno probs12:16
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krautmoin12:21
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Carbon_Monoxidehmm... I know I'm not asking the right question here. But anyone know any IRC channels that talk about DDoS(Dsitributed Denial of Service) attacks?12:25
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realfolkblues#wireless12:27
Carbon_Monoxiderealfolkblues: Do you mean #wireless channel talks about DDoS?12:27
realfolkbluesno12:27
Carbon_Monoxidelol12:27
realfolkbluessorry was tryingt o join it12:28
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realfolkbluesCarbon_Monoxide I'll talk about it with you if you fix my wireless12:28
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pablo__hi everybody, any one knows about why alsa is not being update on edgy?12:39
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kent_hi peeps12:47
kent_can somone help me upgrade to Amarok 1.4.412:47
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nicksteis there anyway to get AMD64 codecs for MPlayer?12:48
tilljemand da der deutsch spricht?12:48
tillnobody who can speak german?12:49
kent_nickste: use automatrix it will install them for you12:51
nickstethanks12:51
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tillsorry. can anybody help me with vmware workstation?12:51
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tilli dont know how to install it.12:52
blackridersiema12:52
blackriderhello12:52
nickste!automatrix12:52
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about automatrix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:52
blackriderhow to install skype in ubuntu 6.06 64 bit ?12:53
nickstekent_: what is automatrix, and where do I get it?12:53
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nickstedon't worry, I think u mis-spelt it :)12:54
kent_nickste: http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation&Itemid=3812:55
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blackriderskype is only for debian i386 :/12:55
snpzblackrider12:56
snpz???12:56
blackriderthx for link12:56
kent_blackrider: you could compile it from source or is it not open to the public?12:56
snpzis there a problem to install .deb package?12:56
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kent_can somone help me upgrade to Amarok 1.4.4 i'm a little stuck12:57
snpzu are trying to compile it from source?12:57
snpzkent_12:58
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blackriderdpkg -i --force-architecture skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb12:58
kent_snpz: no i just wanna get teh package but i cant seem to do so i was doing this page http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.4.php12:59
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snpzkent_, there everything is written01:01
snpzadd apt source01:02
snpzadd apt-key01:03
snpzand sudo apt-get update01:03
kent_snpz: i did that but what now?01:03
snpzand sudo apt-get upgrade amarok i think01:03
snpzkent_, it works for me01:06
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kent_0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.01:06
kent_still says 1.4.301:06
snpzThe following packages will be upgraded:01:07
snpz  amarok amarok-xine01:07
snpz2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.01:07
snpzNeed to get 17,6MB of archives.01:07
kent_i dont get that01:07
snpzimported key?01:07
snpzadded repository?01:07
kent_i'll start over01:07
snpzdid sudo apt-get update01:07
snpzdid apt-get upgrade amarok01:08
snpz?01:08
dinosaur-ruswhy there's no Assistant for Qt4?01:08
kent_whats the command to add?01:09
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snpzsudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list01:09
snpzadd this line below01:10
snpzdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-144 edgy main01:10
snpzehmm, u are using kubuntu 6.10?01:10
snpzedgy?01:10
dinosaur-russnpz: sudo isn't recommended for GUI apps01:11
dinosaur-russnpz: instead, use kdesu01:11
snpzok, no big difference01:11
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kent_snpz: should i remove teh amarok line for dapper main?01:12
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snpzyou are using dapper?01:12
kent_snpz: no01:12
kent_6.1001:12
snpzso where is the problem?01:13
kent_it's got deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main should i remove this line?01:13
snpzyes01:13
snpzehmm01:13
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snpzu can try to change dapper to edgy01:13
kent_snpz: ok now what?01:13
intelikey!upgrade01:14
ubotuSee http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)01:14
snpzkent_, add this line to your sources.list file01:14
snpzdeb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-144 edgy main01:14
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kent_snpz: done now what?01:14
snpzsave the file01:14
kent_did01:14
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kent_back in command01:15
snpzimport key01:15
snpzwget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg01:15
snpz sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg01:15
snpzsudo apt-get update01:15
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snpzsudo apt-get upgrade amarok01:15
kent_yay it' works!01:16
kent_thanks a bunch01:16
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snpz;)01:16
kent_snpz: you rock :D01:17
snpzmhehe01:17
aimtrainerhi! I need some help with my wireless. I have a dlink 520+ with a acx100 chipset. Im not really sure which file/ driver to use here: http://acx100.erley.org/01:17
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snpzaimtrainer, is this chip supported?01:17
snpzin kernel i mean01:17
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aimtrainersnpz: I think so: I m about to use this tut: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx10001:18
aimtrainerbut Im stuck with the first step .. downloading the correct driver ^^01:19
kent_aimtrainer: just grab the cd that came with the card01:19
snpzaimtrainer, what does uname -r says?01:19
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aimtrainersnpz: daniel@daniel:~$ uname -r01:20
aimtrainer2.6.17-10-generic01:20
aimtrainerkent_: I dont think I still have the cd01:21
snpzsudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`01:21
snpzshould work01:21
xwolf-yay! i also had problems using adept to update. now linux wont start, something about usplash couldnt find a theme for 640x48001:21
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xwolf-perhaps it`s not the only broken package, too.01:22
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snpzxwolf-, maybe your xorg.conf is broken01:23
snpz?01:23
snpzaimtrainer, download this one01:24
snpzhttp://acx100.erley.org/acx-20060521.tar.bz201:24
aimtrainerthanks snpz!!01:24
snpzuse the manual u posted01:24
xwolf-snpz: i dont know. but it stops right there at usplash error.01:24
snpzand everything should work01:25
snpzxwolf-, try to push LAlt+Ctrl+F101:25
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snpzu will get to terminal01:26
snpzLAlt+Ctrl+F7 back to graphical01:26
snpzin terminal mode try to run startx01:26
xwolf-no, i wont get to terminal. because THERE is the usplash error message, nothing else01:26
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skipjackcan somone tell me who I can register me for Jabber.org ?01:26
xwolf-in f7 there`s only one single line, something about apci01:27
xwolf-acpi or some sort.01:27
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intelikeyxwolf- cant get to a console?    shift+pg-up & ctrl+alt+f2 & ctrl+alt+f1     ?01:28
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xwolf-intelikey: no, i cant.01:29
xwolf-what i did to get to a console was adding init=/bin/bash to grub01:29
xwolf-in the kernel line01:30
intelikeyxwolf- boot with vga=0x0f05   will get you to a console without having to be init.01:30
intelikeyor shall i say "should" get you there.01:30
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xwolf-well, will give it a try.01:31
intelikeyxwolf- also add  splash=silent01:31
xwolf-anything else01:31
xwolf-?01:31
intelikeyquiet01:32
xwolf-all in the kernel line, right?01:32
intelikeyyes...   thats all i can think of off hand.  :)01:32
xwolf-right. lemme try.01:32
intelikeyframe buffering.... even when it works, it doesn't work.01:34
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ubuntu__hi everyone ... here's my problem ... i made a mistake by raising my monitor resolution to 1280x1024 ... but my monitor says that the refresh rate is too high .. so i cannot see anything on the screen ... i cannot see the login box ... i know i have to edit the resolution manually by modifying /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... but i cannot get to it (on my ext3 partition) even with the LIVE Kubuntu CD.. help!01:49
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ubuntu__my monitor shows an error when X starts .. even before i can login!01:50
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GeckoHey there. My box runs really bad. free -m reports of about 150 mb free when I'm not doing anything. I have 1GB ram in total, which I would like to consider sufficient for Linux and KDE. How can I see what's been eating my memory?01:50
intelikeyubuntu__ ctrl+alt+f101:51
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ubuntu__ty intelikey01:51
intelikeyGecko nothing is eating your memory.01:51
Geckointelikey: please explain that01:52
intelikeyallocated != used01:52
Geckointelikey: Mem:          1011        831        179 <- first collumn is total, next is _used_  last is free01:52
intelikeyGecko yes and you are reading the wrong line.01:53
intelikeylook at the second.01:53
intelikeythe +/- buffered01:53
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Geckointelikey: ahh01:53
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Geckointelikey: well, that doesn't explain why all my games started lagging today, but thanks for the explanation :)01:54
intelikeyas to why it's so slow, some process is probably malfunctioning (not working propperly and thus looping and using lots of cpu power)   use   top01:55
dinosaur-rus!assistant01:55
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about assistant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:55
dinosaur-rus!info qt3-assistant01:55
ubotuqt3-assistant: The Qt3 assistant application. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 233 kB, installed size 620 kB01:55
dinosaur-rus!info qt4-assistant01:55
ubotuPackage qt4-assistant does not exist in any distro I know01:56
KalsHow do i open konqueror as root?01:56
intelikeyKals kdesu konqueror01:56
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intelikeyor terminal; sudo -i konqueror01:57
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[joemax] hello01:58
dinosaur-rushi01:58
[joemax] good to be here, I think01:58
joe3kheh01:58
dinosaur-rus:)01:58
joe3kthe world is full of joes01:58
[joemax] hahaha01:58
[joemax] yeah01:59
[joemax] i can see that01:59
[joemax] anyway...01:59
[joemax] is there such a thing as a kde app that scans cd's01:59
joe3kyesterday joe_ was here as well01:59
[joemax] i mean ,surface scan01:59
[joemax] that's good to know...01:59
joe3ki know only for cd catalogizing02:00
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[joemax] hmm...02:01
intelikey[joemax]  kde app.... prolly not.  not that i know of.  but  badblocks /dev/cdrom   should do that.02:01
joe3kbtw does anyone know some better replacement for cdcat02:01
[joemax] badblocks eh02:01
ubuntu___ciao a tutti02:01
[joemax] so this one just scans the cdrom, right?02:01
ubuntu___qualche italiano in linea_02:02
intelikey[joemax]  man badblocks02:02
intelikeyto read what it does ^02:02
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[joemax] says here i shouldn't run this directly02:03
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ehirdhmm02:04
ehirdsay i wanted to remove file FOO and it's many directories under .02:05
ehirdhow would I do that? rm -r FOO doesn't work02:05
intelikeybadblocks is not a cd* blah, badblocks is a disk scanning tool, and cd = compact disk.    badblocks was actually writen with floppies in mind....  but works on most if not all media.02:05
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joe3k[joemax] : the man page says you shouldn't if you feed it into e2fsck or similar02:05
joe3k[joemax] : i'd just run it02:06
joe3k[joemax] : but umount possible the fs first02:06
joe3k-e +y02:06
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pistoolihi all02:07
intelikeyyeah it don't like to run on mounted fs's  but can be forced too.02:07
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[joemax] umount it...02:09
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intelikey[joemax]  if that was a question. the answer is yes.  :)02:09
joe3khm interesting by clicking on a cd icon you can only eject it, not umount02:09
[joemax] yeah...dunno it that's a bug or a feature...02:10
intelikeycli umount /dev/cdrom02:10
joe3k[joemax] : but i think if you choose "nothing" after insering it doesn't get mounted, ie it'll be umounted02:10
intelikeyoh yeah yall are using kde which is really a pain about umounting cds....02:10
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intelikeywe ignore me on this one...02:11
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joe3kintelikey: well i press f12 and have console so i really don't see any problem here :)02:11
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basquiathi! is there some way to configure kmilo for my thinkpad on kubuntu 6.10? I have no entry in kde's control center under "System Administration" - so is the only way to get an OSD for brightness and thinklight tpb with xosd?02:12
[joemax] joe3k: so much for functionality :)02:12
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[joemax] ok, i ran the badblocks (umounted the cd first)...02:12
[joemax] then it dumps this: 0, 102:13
[joemax] lemme chek02:13
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joe3k[joemax] : well the "dummy" user isn't probably supposed to know anything about mounting, but hey what about the advanced ones :)02:13
pat_Gimp love =D02:13
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intelikeyjoe3k the problem (was when i messed with kde) that the little icon that shows there is a disk in the tray also keeps the thing busy so you can't umount it without first ejecting it from the kde icon...02:14
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intelikeyor run a root eject   on it which makes kde cry.02:15
joe3kintelikey: tried in now; if after inserting you select "do nothing" in the dialog, it won't mount02:15
joe3kintelikey: so you have umounted cd02:15
P-a-gmanAnyone know if Firefox 2.0 is coming with the next update?02:15
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joe3kP-a-gman: it's already in edgy, are you using dapper?02:16
P-a-gmanjoe3k > yes.02:17
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joe3kintelikey: well you can turn the stuff off, or select do nothing as default02:17
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intelikeyjoe3k or use twm  lol02:17
joe3kP-a-gman: then probably only via backports but i'm not sure about it02:17
joe3kintelikey: hehe02:17
P-a-gmanokay :/02:17
BluesKajHowdy all ! :)02:17
P-a-gmanit's my friend that wants it xD and he's a jerk at linux.02:18
joe3kP-a-gman: did you look into dapper-backports requests?02:18
[joemax] badblocks returns 0 102:18
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P-a-gmanNoooo....02:18
[joemax] are those the blocks that are...damaged?02:18
P-a-gmanI just found a tutorial on Debianadmin02:18
P-a-gmanIt is basicly debian <.<02:18
ehirdNo idea?02:19
intelikey[joemax]  that's a block number.  head cylendar     or reverse that maybe... i forget which.02:19
[joemax] hmm...02:19
joe3kehird: -f but be careful02:19
joe3kehird: rm -rf02:19
ehirdjoe3k:02:19
ehirdyes02:19
ehirdi did rm -rf cover.jpg02:20
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ehirdbut there's no cover.jpg's in ./music02:20
ehirdjust in ./music/artist/album/cover.jpg02:20
[joemax] intelikey: i see...02:20
joe3kehird: hm you have to specify the full path02:20
joe3kehird: or use find02:20
P-a-gmandamn torrents slowing me down. <.<02:20
[joemax] the specs don't say what format the output's supposed to look lke lol02:20
joe3kehird: find . -name "cover.jpg" -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f02:20
joe3kehird: or something like that :)02:20
ehirdthat seemed to work02:21
joe3kehird: but beware the command removes all cover.jpgs recursive from your curr dir02:21
joe3kok too late anyway :)02:21
ehirdcalc database02:22
ehirdoops02:22
ehirdwrong channel02:22
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intelikey[joemax]  hmmm according to the man page this version of badblocks outputs block numbers  so your guess was right....   sorry for the bad info.02:23
[joemax] hmm that's ok02:24
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[joemax] still stumped as to what it means though...02:24
[joemax] so, blocks[0] , and blocks[1]  could be busted..?02:24
joe3kP-a-gman: well can't find firefox 2 in dapper-backports02:25
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joe3kP-a-gman: can either request it at https://launchpad.net/products/dapper-backports/+bugs or simply install the vanilla firefox02:25
pistoolia humble question: does anybody know where I can find Kubuntu CD/DVD cover art? was searching google but no luck. many thanks...02:25
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joe3kpistooli: i found one in the dapper installation in ~/Examples recently02:26
[joemax] oh this solves it:02:26
[joemax] Checking blocks 0 to 202:26
[joemax] Checking for bad blocks (read-only test): 0             0/              202:27
[joemax] 102:27
[joemax] done02:27
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[joemax] Pass completed. 2 bad blocks found.02:27
P-a-gmanWhat is the vanilla firefox?02:27
dhqhey all02:27
dhqfdoving: i cant uninstall any package02:27
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joe3kP-a-gman: i meant that one you can download from official site02:27
P-a-gmanOh. Yeah i did.02:28
joe3kP-a-gman: that'll do as well02:28
P-a-gman*finds tut on how to install it*02:28
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joe3kP-a-gman: you should however uninstall the old one first :)02:28
pistoolijoe3k: thanks... that one is for ubuntu and 6.06 unfortunatelly... but thanks anyway...02:28
intelikey[joemax]  from man badblocks -b block-size "Specify the size of blocks in bytes.  The default is 1024."  && section -o output_file "format of this file is suitable for use by the -l option in e2fsck(8) or mke2fs(8)."  and man mke2fs section "  -l filename"  explains it.02:29
P-a-gmansure.02:29
P-a-gmanBut i found one on debianadmin02:29
P-a-gmanhttp://www.debianadmin.com/install-firefox2-in-ubuntu-and-list-of-recomended-addons.html02:29
dhqcan any one help me on uninstalling a package cauz i get errors02:29
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intelikey[joemax]  in laymans terms a block is 1042 bites of the disk serface that was scanned.02:30
joe3kdhq: what error02:30
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intelikeyerr 102402:30
intelikey= 1k02:30
dhqjoe3k: well i will paste it on pistebin02:30
intelikey[joemax]  that assumes you didn't set the block size with the -b option.02:31
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joe3ki think for cd the block size should be 2048, shouldn't it02:31
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joe3kthat's at least the block size for iso fs02:32
MRMorefield-ftwhat is the kernel source tree?02:32
intelikey[joemax]  i sujest scanning a known good disk.02:32
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dhqjoe3k: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31202/\02:32
joe3kMRMorefield-ft: actually kernel sources02:32
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osloexiste t-il un krfb like pour windows ? pour pouvoir me connecter sous ma kubuntu a distance02:32
MRMorefield-ftyes02:32
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[joemax] oh well...the cd ehcks out anyway :)02:33
BluesKaj!fr02:33
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.02:33
[joemax] *checks02:33
MRMorefield-fti want to install the new nvidia driver02:33
MRMorefield-ftbut the installer cant detect the kernel source tree02:33
joe3kdhq: honestly, no idea, never had X errors in apt-get from cmd line02:33
joe3kdhq: have to try someone else :-/02:34
intelikey[joemax]  i just scaned a blank it returned NO badblocks... so i mentioned checking a known to be good disk.02:34
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dhqjoe3k: anyways thanx02:34
joe3koslo: i think ultravnc is what you're looking for02:34
joe3koslo: http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net/02:35
intelikey[joemax]  actually blank but formated ^  i don't think you can scan a new cdr02:35
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gurumeditationerHow do I get rid of this x screen saver? it doesn't seem to matter that I've picked a different screen saver in the display settings it always does the white X one02:36
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[joemax] intelikey: ok thanks...02:36
BluesKajremote desktop -Krfb desktop sharing perhaps?... oslo02:36
[joemax] intelikey: i think it doesn't scan it as good...i got to burn an iso just fine :)02:37
intelikeyok i'm went.  C++ yall02:37
[joemax] intelikey: but thanks for the help02:37
Jucatobye intelikey :)02:37
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qbitanyone know about Xen support in edgy? - specifically if cpu has to be one of the new ones with new virtualization features, or can it even work on older such as a Sempron 2800+?02:41
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oslojoe3k> i will try02:42
visik_latest avahi update broken my system02:43
visik_to be exactly adept doesn't handle dist-upgrades02:43
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joe3kam i the only person here witch bunch of cds wishing to catalogize them under linux?02:45
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abattoirjoe3k: what do you mean by 'catalogize' ?02:50
joe3kvisik_: you have to probably switch to cmd and try apt-get -f install02:50
honestHello all02:50
joe3kabattoir: create a cd catalogoue, something cdcat and katalog does02:51
joe3kabattoir: katalog 0.3 in edgy fails at basic task - add /media/cdrom0 to catalogue :)02:51
honesti was wondering, if there a command to reset xorg settings, for some reason when i move windows about the screen they sorta jump, kinda like a windows machine before the video card drive has been installed02:51
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abattoirhonest: 'sudo dexconf'02:51
honestabattoir: shall i restart x?02:52
honestabattoir: after running the command?02:52
abattoirhonest: yup02:52
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Jucatoabattoir!!!02:52
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honestabattoir:  is there a command to restart x?02:53
abattoirhey Jucato :)02:53
Jucatohonest: save everything you need to, then ctrl+alt+backspace02:53
abattoirhonest: ctrl+alt+backspace...02:53
CerebroHallo everybody02:53
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honestabattoir: N1, brb02:53
kent_i'm haveing trouble getting amarok to see my zen xtra can somone help me? i'm looking at this http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:MTP02:53
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abattoirhonest: worked?02:54
honestabattoir: back.02:54
Bubba_Gumpkent_: which version of AmaroK are you running?02:54
honestabattoir: nah, it still does the same, do u know what i mean about a M$ box without the driver installed?02:54
kent_Bubba_Gump: 1.4.402:54
fildocan anyone tell me about wifi, i get my wifi associated with the AP . link quality is good . but the noise level is -45db..02:55
honestabattoir: kinda like refreash rate of 202:55
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Bubba_Gumpkent_: have you libmtp installed?02:55
kent_Bubba_Gump: yes and libmtp sees the player but i'm not sure what to do now02:55
abattoirhonest: yes, the settings have been 'reset' to default, you should modify them to suit your needs02:55
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kent_Bubba_Gump: oops that was for you02:56
Bubba_Gumpkent_: in amaroK, click 'media device'02:56
kent_Bubba_Gump: and?02:56
fildocan anyone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31206/02:57
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Bubba_Gumpkent_: what is displayed when you plug the Zen in ?02:58
kent_Bubba_Gump: nothing in amarok, the desktop shows a camra icon02:58
Bubba_Gumpkent_: a camera icon, curious02:59
fildosorry this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31207/02:59
Bubba_Gumpkent_: have you installed libusb 0.1.12 in your box?03:00
Bubba_Gumpkent_: or higher03:00
kent_Bubba_Gump: let me check03:01
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Bubba_Gumpkent_: k :)03:01
kent_Bubba_Gump: libusb 0.1 -4 is on it03:02
Bubba_Gumpkent_: libusb 0.1.14?03:02
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kent_Bubba_Gump: no03:03
kent_Bubba_Gump: libusb 0.1 -4 is on it03:03
Bubba_Gumpah03:03
kent_Bubba_Gump: says adept03:03
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Bubba_Gumpkent_: is there an option for an Adept upgrade?03:03
kent_Bubba_Gump: says everything is up to date03:04
Bubba_Gumpk03:04
Bubba_Gumphttp://libusb.sourceforge.net/download.html#stable03:04
honestabattoir: thing is, i can modify them but it doesnt stop this pre driverinstal windows effect.. any ideas mate?03:04
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Bubba_Gumpkent_: it's a tar, the latest libusb03:05
honestabattoir: would it be worth installing the nvidia driver?03:05
e1merhi all03:05
abattoirhonest: what do you exactly mean by 'pre driver install windows effect' ?03:05
abattoirhonest: hmm, yes03:05
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e1meranyone got a tool for converting wvdial.conf to kppp arguments?03:05
abattoir!nvidia | honest03:05
ubotuhonest: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:05
kent_Bubba_Gump: ok i downloaded it now what?03:05
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abattoirhonest: are you using the 'nv' driver now?03:05
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Bubba_Gumpkent_: untar in a folder03:06
honestabattoir: Umm yeh i think so, let me check03:06
kent_Bubba_Gump: ok03:06
honestabattoir: it was usingthe NV it's now using the vesa, that could be the prob?03:06
Bubba_Gumpkent_: and then compile and install03:07
kent_Bubba_Gump: how?03:07
abattoirhonest: it was nv before you did sudo dexconf?03:07
abattoirhonest: you still had that problem then right?03:07
abattoir(the reason you ran dexconf)03:07
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honestabattoir: nah, i ran that command to try and fix the issue, then i realised i had now noticed it was the vesa, bthis is before athe command as well03:08
kent_Bubba_Gump: can you walk me through compuleing and stuff i've never done that03:08
Bubba_Gumpkent_: sudo tar -xvzf <name of downloaded tar.gz>03:08
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abattoirhonest: oh ok, then try changing it to nv then03:09
honestabattoir: just restarting X03:09
Bubba_Gumpkent_: cd libusb-0.1.12.tar.gz03:10
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Bubba_Gumpkent_: ./configure03:10
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Bubba_Gumpkent_: make03:10
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twosouls82hello nice people :)03:10
Bubba_Gumpkent_: sudo make install03:10
Bubba_Gumptwosouls82: :D03:11
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twosouls82:)03:11
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kent_sudo make install03:11
kent_make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.03:11
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klerfaythow do you make screeshot of kdm? (login screen)03:11
BluesKajmkdir first03:11
Bubba_Gumphmm03:11
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cox377abattoir: This, is also honest, working on 2 machines03:12
Bubba_Gumpkent_: i'm flumuxed03:12
Bubba_Gumpkent_: normally this works03:12
kent_Bubba_Gump: hehe03:12
abattoircox377: ok :)03:12
sberla54ciao ragazzi qualcuno mi aiuta con dei problemi di aggiornamento da dapper ad edgy, legati ad apt-get?03:12
cox377abattoir: changed that driver and its gone bad03:12
abattoir!it03:13
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!03:13
cox377it doesnt seem it will start x03:13
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abattoircox377: hmm, what error do you get?03:13
abattoircox377: does changing it back to vesa start x ?03:13
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Bubba_Gumpkent_: are you running as root?03:13
cox377abattoir: shall try that now03:13
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kent_Bubba_Gump: ./configure worked then03:14
kent_make03:14
kent_make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.03:14
cox377abattoir: yup, that worked03:15
kent_Bubba_Gump: i've never run as root b4 only used sudo03:15
cox377abattoir: but still back to the pre driver issue03:15
Bubba_Gumpkent_: i'm not sure on this...03:15
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abattoircox377: i guess it's best that you install the binary nvidia drivers03:16
abattoircox377: do you want to do that?03:16
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deinhihi03:16
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cox377abattoir: yeh man, anything to get it running properly  : )03:17
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abattoirok03:17
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abattoiryou have the links right?03:17
abattoir!nvidia | cox37703:17
ubotucox377: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:17
cox377abattoir: N103:17
cox377abattoir: : )03:17
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slow-motionhallo03:18
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twosouls82I have a crappy BIOS, I can't seem to find out the IO port and the IRQ address of the Midi device on my soundcard, and no I don't use (and intend to) use Windows..  Is there a nifty tool for linux to get this info?03:18
twosouls82hallo slow-motion, alles goed? :P03:19
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warnethai03:19
slow-motionhi twosouls8203:19
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shanden..03:19
shanden.03:19
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shanden..03:19
shanden...................................................................................................................................03:19
LjLshanden: ? stop03:19
twosouls82!abuse03:19
ubotuThe people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines03:19
shandenok03:19
honestabattoir: me again, what i did was run the NV without the direct something or other lol and it works03:19
honestabattoir: back to normal, cheers for that03:19
shandensorry03:19
twosouls82np :)03:20
shanden^_^'03:20
abattoirhonest: oh, and the 'pre driver installation....blah blah' is gone? ;)03:20
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cox377abattoir: yup03:20
cox377https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto03:20
cox377i shall install that and see what happens, maybe i can get better rez03:21
cox377;)03:21
abattoircox377: oh cool03:21
klerfaytwhat I have to install to have command "import"?03:21
abattoircox377: yeah, and you can run beryl too... and crash your system more often ;)03:21
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klerfaytnv, answer is imagemagick03:22
honestabattoir: lol is it not recommened then?03:23
abattoirhonest: no i didn't mean that03:23
warnethai all03:23
honestabattoir: lol03:23
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abattoirhonest: i said once you have the nvidia driver(the new beta one actually), you can run beryl, and enjoy all the eyecandy goodness coupled w/ the occasional ever-so humbling crash ;)03:24
honestabattoir: ahhh i get yah03:25
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tommyhow to change the label of HDD FAT32 in kununtu desktop03:28
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kayi have a USB-Headset can anyone tell me how i can install iton kubuntu?03:30
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kent_ho do i open a knosle with admin rights so i can just do a bunch of stuff without sudo?03:32
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binary2k2kent_: in konsole type: sudo su03:33
kaykent_: i think you hve do it in kubuntu everytime with sudo03:33
kayyes or this03:33
kay:-(03:33
marios_sHello, I'm trying to use the kubuntu live boot loader. I've a kubuntu installed on /dev/hda. what's the command to boot? root=/dev/hda3 (linux part) doesn't work03:33
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kaymarios_s: maybe there where the boot partion is (for example (hda1))03:35
LjLbinary2k2, kent_:  "sudo -i" is probably a better idea03:35
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binary2k2LjL: it's the same thing really03:35
marios_skay, sorry? The problem is windows overwrote grub and now I'd like to run linux using the cd as a boot loader, but I don't know the option03:36
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LjLbinary2k2, no, "sudo -i" sets environment variables to the right ones for root, "sudo su" doesn't.   "sudo su -" does, but then it still makes no sense to chain two commands (sudo and su), which essentially perform the same function03:36
eL`izhai....03:36
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kaymar#03:37
kaymarios_s: ah i have the same problem last time03:37
kayits easy03:37
kayi can tell you03:37
marios_sthan you :)03:37
LjLbinary2k2: by the way, "sudo -s" is closer to "sudo su" (i.e. it doesn't set the environment)03:37
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kaymarios_s: you need a boot cd i had last time gentoo03:38
kaycourse it wroks fine03:38
kayyou start it and you need a konsole03:38
kaythere you have to put the commands03:39
binary2k2LjL: yeah, i'll have to refresh myself in man sudo :p03:39
kaymkdir /mnt/linux/03:39
kaymount /dev/hda3 /mnt/linux03:39
kaychrott /mnt/linux03:39
kaygrub-install /dev/hda103:40
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kaythis is all03:40
marios_sI tried03:40
marios_sbut doesn't work03:40
kaythis aLL?03:40
marios_sIt tell me something like: couldn't gethostbname()03:40
kayok03:40
marios_syes.03:40
kaythen you have the wrong partion hda303:40
kaymake somethig else03:40
kaymake fdisk /dev/hda03:40
kayand look on the partion table03:41
marios_sfdisk -l says is hda3 : P03:41
yamalkay: "chrott" <-- typo03:41
kayups yeah it have to be chroot03:41
kaythx yamal03:41
kaywai03:42
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kaymarios_s: you installed windows too???03:42
marios_skay, yes03:43
kaymarios_s: so windows installed him self only one the first partion on hda103:43
kaymarios_s: hm...03:43
marios_sthat's the problem, but I wish to run ubuntu at least from live bootloader03:44
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aimtrainerhi! Does anybody have experience with edgy and the ipw3945? I tried it with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140085&page=2&highlight=ipw3945 script but t just won work :(03:45
kaymarios_s: can you trie it  again??03:45
marios_skay why ? :D03:46
yamalkay: also, if you want grub on the mbr, it should be /dev/hda not hda1 iirc03:46
kaymarios_s: dont know mayb luck and it run but  i find a link maybe it cvan help you03:47
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kayyamal: it seems to me you know it better then me so plz help him03:47
yamalmarios_s: what are you currently using? live cd?03:48
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kaymarios_s: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=149505703:48
marios_syamal, now I'm from windoes03:49
kayyamal: and i did it with hda1 and it works03:49
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marios_sDo you think it's going to work if I reinstall ubuntu?03:51
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kaymarios_s: sure course grub will installed again03:52
kaymarios_s: i have kubuntu cd too but as i used it i didnt work i use a gentoo live cd03:53
yamalmarios_s: read the comment by "remmelt" on http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html03:55
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yamaland you may have to use sudo with the grub command mentioned in step 303:56
kayyamal: do you something know abut USB-headset , too?03:57
yamalnot a thing :)03:57
kaylol k thx03:57
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marios_syamal, I'll give a try04:00
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yamalmarios_s: be sure to substitute the correct values for your situation, then it should work (I think ;)04:02
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marios_s(I hope)04:02
marios_sjust a sec : )04:02
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joe3kfreeflying: ?04:07
magicmikeAny known problems updating to Edgy through the adept package manager?04:09
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shegmancan somebody tell me how to enable 3d in kubuntu04:10
Jucatomagicmike: do not upgrade to Edgy using Adept04:10
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Jucato!upgrade | magicmike04:10
ubotumagicmike: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)04:10
magicmikeThanks.04:11
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shegman!libGL04:12
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about libGL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:12
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Hawkwindshegman: Install your nvidia/ati drivers04:12
shegmani have a intel blabla in my laptop04:12
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shegmanin suse the 3d driver worked. dont know how04:13
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magicmikejucato: Is it worth the hassle to upgrade at this point?04:14
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Jucatomagicmike: depends on you really. if you need some packages that can only be found on edgy, or if you can risk the upgrade, why not. but if you must absolutely be stable, stick to Dapper04:14
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Jucatoalthough Edgy has been stable on my desktop04:15
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joe3kwell but few things seem not to work that well in edgy, today i discovered another one04:15
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twosouls82please file a report04:15
magicmikejucato: I'm still trying to learn this thing and I've got 75% - 80% of my stuff working. I'll hold off. Thanks04:15
joe3kif i eg insert a cd, then in popup choose "open in new window" the window pops up but it's empty04:16
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joe3kseems the device gets mounted only after the window pops up04:16
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twosouls82joe3k: reload/refresh and it wont be empty04:16
magicmikeedgy might make me edgy. LOL04:16
joe3kyeah i'll do, just need some time to check whether it doesn't exist already04:16
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joe3ktwosouls82: i know but it's not the expected behaviour i suppose04:16
joe3ki think it worked correctly in dapper04:17
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twosouls82true :) but it isn't a severe bug.. you can still file it though, joe3k04:17
joe3kcan maybe someone of you try it out now? :)04:17
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twosouls82joe3k: I already meant to confirm it to you  :)04:18
joe3khehe04:18
joe3ki'll fill that one04:18
joe3ki think i have to make me a todo list04:19
twosouls82:) great.. I simply don't have the time myself :$04:19
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twosouls82hehehe joe3k04:19
joe3ktwosouls82: me actually neither ;-)04:19
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BluesKajanyone here connected to a working windows network with a kubuntu box ?04:20
twosouls82BluesKaj: yes.. all linux boxes though, but using samba :P04:21
heevmocan anyone help me to make a new root user04:21
BluesKajtwosouls82, ok are you using komba as anetwork browser ?04:21
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khirr!repository04:22
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:22
twosouls82BluesKaj: no sorry, either smb4k or konqueror04:22
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khirrhow can install repository to kmess in edgy? or mercury?04:23
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BluesKajok twosouls82 , smb4k ?04:26
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twosouls82BluesKaj: Smb4K is an SMB/CIFS share browser for KDE, what is it you need to know about it?04:27
khirrhow can i ..?04:27
joe3ktwosouls82: it's actually already there, bug 6786304:27
nickstehow do I unbind shift + backspace from restarting xserver or whatever it does04:27
khirr!repository04:27
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu04:27
Jucato!kmess04:27
ubotukmess: Instant messenger to use MSN on KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1067 kB, installed size 2620 kB04:27
Jucato!mercury04:27
ubotumercury: A new logic/functional programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.0.rotd.20040511-5 (edgy), package size 24708 kB, installed size 109984 kB04:27
twosouls82joe3k: good :) let's pray it will be troubleshooted someday soon.. but remember.. it is not severe\04:28
Jucatokhirr: both kmess and mercury are in the universe repos. Just enable universe, and you can install them from Adept or apt-get04:28
BluesKajtwosouls82, this the error message i get from komba when i try to access files on the network windows pc .. smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)04:28
twosouls82nice work joe3k04:28
twosouls82:)04:28
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khirrjust universe? o multiverse too?04:28
joe3ktwosouls82: it's not yet confirmed so i think it needs a bit more traffic :)04:28
khirris mercury msn?04:29
joe3ktwosouls82: but i think it's not even minor problem, its kinda dumb to select open in new window and see empty window, istn't it04:29
Jucatokhirr: mercury isn't msn. kmess does msn. just universe. have you tried MSN on Kopete?04:29
twosouls82joe3k: true but it it works, 'though not like it should :s04:30
twosouls82BluesKaj: the answers is on this page.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=21976704:31
twosouls82don't use setuid root unless you absolutely need to04:31
twosouls82(which is what you do need to do now)04:31
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twosouls82setuid root, makes the program on which it has been set to be executed as root, eventhough you start it, hence root is the owner04:32
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khirrbut kmess run MSN, i've tried...04:34
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khirrive tried www.mercury.to too04:34
Jucatokhirr: then you can install kmess. it's in universe04:35
it4lia59salut04:35
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khirrbut, now cant install, i dunno why...for that reason i'd like know if there is one repository for this04:35
khirrbut, mercury msn?04:35
BluesKajtwosouls82, I don't have a prob with sudo ..it's just this particular proggie komba2, that gives me that message04:35
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twosouls82bonsoir it4lia59 :)04:35
it4lia59je voudrai savoir si quelq'un a installer teamspeak sur la kubuntu ? svp04:36
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BluesKajI guess I should try to config smb4k04:36
twosouls82BluesKaj: you need to set 'setuid' on 'smbmnt', and you need to set the owner to be 'root', these actions together make 'smbmnt' get executed as root...  regardless of who runs the command04:36
Hawkwind!it | it4lia5904:37
ubotuit4lia59: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:37
twosouls82BluesKaj: smb4k doesn't need it, so I prefer that one04:37
it4lia59ok sorry04:37
Dr_willisyep. got to set the suid bit on the 2 smb commands that smb4k uses.04:37
BluesKajok  twosouls82 , how do i get smb4k to work for me ?04:37
twosouls82it4lia59: isn't that French instead of Italian?04:38
it4lia59Any one has install teamspeak on kubuntu ?04:38
twosouls82ubotu | languages04:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about languages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:38
Dr_willis-rwsr-sr-x 1 root root    8672 2006-07-11 09:28 smbmnt04:38
Dr_willis-rwsr-sr-x 1 root root    6088 2006-07-11 09:28 smbumount04:38
BluesKaj!it04:38
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!04:38
BluesKaj!fr04:38
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.04:38
twosouls82:) BluesKaj04:38
it4lia59ok but I can speak english to04:39
it4lia59and I want to know if you have install teamspeak ?04:39
twosouls82Dr_willis: did you, can't recall I did too :P04:39
Dr_willisalway had to do it with ubuntu/kubuntu, many other disrtos have them suid allready i guess04:40
Dr_willisalternatve to smb4k is that fuse samba filesystem tool.04:40
Dr_willisor mount the shares from the fstab04:40
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khirrhow can i  view my kmess contact list for email, and not for "name"04:41
BluesKajDr_willis, do I enter those commands in the terminal ?04:41
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BluesKaji have no idea what fstab is04:42
twosouls82:|04:42
apokryphos!fstab04:42
ubotuThe /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions04:42
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  you may want to do some learning/reding of linux fundumentals. :)04:42
Dr_willissuid is a special 'permission' you set on executables04:43
BluesKajspoken like a true teacher m Dr_willis :)04:43
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Dr_willissudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmnt04:43
Dr_williswill set the suid bit on that binary.. (as the 's' in what i pasted showed)04:43
Dr_willis-rwsr-sr-x 1 root root    8672 2006-07-11 09:28 smbmnt04:43
Dr_willisnote the s 'rwSr'04:43
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Dr_willissuiding things can be considered a potential security risk. :)04:44
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joe3ktwosouls82: may add your story to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/6786304:44
BluesKajwell, it was an illegal option04:45
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twosouls82joe3k: I will confirm your post by a little one too04:46
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BluesKajprolly not worth worrying about , i'll just boot into windows if i require any files from the network pc ...that system works04:46
twosouls82BluesKaj: you only learn Linux if you digg into it :)04:47
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BluesKajthen i can access them on the ntfs partition if i need to04:48
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BluesKajwell, I don't understand why I can print to the windows network from my linux box , but don't have access to files on the same pc that the printer is aconnected to ?04:49
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twosouls82joe3k: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/67863 I did it at once. It's of my list now04:51
twosouls82joe3k: thanks for the efforts! cheers04:51
joe3ktwosouls82: well now only to find someone who call tell us what it caused ;-)04:51
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bluszczhow can i play music using second sound device?04:52
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twosouls82joe3k: it seems to a Konqi bug to me, as it IS being mounted correctly, only not shown ny Konqi04:52
shaddarhi ... someone using kubuntu on a ibm thinkpad x-series ?04:52
joe3ktwosouls82: didn't find anything related on bugs.kde.org04:52
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lozubotu: can you give me advice on printing04:54
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about can you give me advice on printing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi04:54
lozubotu:  printing04:54
ubotuPrinting in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows04:54
lozbotsnak04:54
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lozubotu: botsnack04:54
ubotuYum!04:54
BluesKajtwosouls82, Dr_willis ...I didn't understand what you guys just did there ..I enterd the commands in the terminal as sudo and I have access to the windows pc !  Thanyou :)04:55
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  we explained what it was doing....04:55
binary2k2linux magic :P04:55
Dr_willis:)04:55
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_pyrooo_hi all04:56
Dr_willisyou set teh SUID BIT on the binaries so they ran with root permission/priviliges04:56
_pyrooo_just came back from trying to install gentoo04:56
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Dr_willisoops :)04:56
_pyrooo_didn't work, i'm a newbie and i did all i can - worked 15 hrs straight on that :|04:56
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_pyrooo_so i'm moving to kubuntu04:56
_pyrooo_is there any manual i need to read before i install?04:56
Dr_willis_pyrooo_,  but did you learn aynthing from doing the install.04:56
Dr_willisubuntu/kubuntu web sites have a lot of guides04:57
_pyrooo_Dr_willis: i learned alot!04:57
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_pyrooo_Dr_willis: i finished the install but i couldn't boot with grub. i got lots of help but still, it didn't work.04:57
Dr_willisgrub is one of those things - it pays to spend a few hrs reading the homepage/docs/manuals and just learning....04:58
_pyrooo_so i think i'll try kubuntu, get formilier with linux and when i'll understand the basics i'll decide if i want to switch to some other disto or stay with kubuntu04:58
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Dr_willisIt pays to learn the 'FUNdamentals' :)04:58
_pyrooo_what?04:59
BluesKajI have debian fans telling me to switch ...it's the same platform...but i don't see why i should ...I like some eye candy :)04:59
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Dr_willisBluesKaj,  once you learn the basics - the changes are all eye candy. :)05:00
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_pyrooo_Dr_willis: do you think kubuntu is just for basic users of even experts?05:00
Dr_willis_pyrooo_,  its what you make it to be.. what are the experts doing thats so much different from what basic users are doing.05:00
BluesKajDr_willis, the manuals assume one understands the nomenclature ...well i don't05:00
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_pyrooo_Dr_willis: for how much time have you been using kubuntu?05:01
Dr_willisBluesKaj,  tldp.org has some guides also.. when in doubt.. read , read, read some more.. THEN you start to pickup on all the terms. and it all starts to fig together. Dont worry about a term you dont know right now.. look it up.. or have patience and it will eventually be made clear.05:01
Dr_willis_pyrooo_,  been using Ubuntu and its variants since.. Hmm Breezy Badger release. been using Linux for a few years. (8 or so)05:02
_pyrooo_Dr_willis: why did you choose kubuntu instead a more complex distro?05:02
Dr_willisand yes i have a HUGE collection of Unix/Linux books.05:02
Dr_willis_pyrooo_,  the term 'complex' is a bit meaningless. :) all the operating systems are a bit complex.05:03
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Dr_willisubuntu is very good at getting a system going. good HW detection, and installer.05:03
Dr_williscould be better.. but it works.05:03
binary2k2"could be better.." the linux motto05:04
_pyrooo_Dr_willis: alright, so i think i'll use kubuntu until i understand it throughly then decide if i want to switch. btw, do i need to read any guide before i install?05:04
Dr_willisbinary2k2,  'could be better, but we dont care to put forth the effort' - the MS/Windows Motto.05:04
Dr_willis_pyrooo_,  the ubuntu/kubuntu homepage has some guides.05:04
_pyrooo_Dr_willis: i ment installing guides. before i install05:05
Dr_willis_pyrooo_,  tldp.org has some  more general guides also.05:05
Dr_willisI found the installer rather straight forward compared to gentoos. :)05:05
Dr_willisthen again. gentoo's is rather straight forward.. just detailed.05:05
Dr_willisfew clicks.. partition the drives.. let it install.. enter users name/password. :)05:05
_pyrooo_Dr_willis: amm, gentoo is stratight forward if you know what your doing :)05:06
_pyrooo_well i'm gonna install right away thanks05:06
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binary2k2even the alternate text installer is qutie simple, compaired to others05:06
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Dr_willisI tend to use the Kubuntu/Uubntu alternative isntaller cd's05:06
Dr_willisand the text based installer.05:06
Dr_willishttp://ubuntuforums.org/05:08
BluesKajI've heard Gentoo is a bitch to install05:08
Dr_willisis good also to read/watch/check05:08
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Dr_willisGentoo is just 'detailed' :) and if you got no idea what a kernel even is..... well...05:09
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nixboxI have an ssh session with a console, I want to log all the activity, there is not much user activity but there are lots of lines that get printed on the console as a result of packet arrivals, I want to log the time (with milliseconds granularity) at the start of each line printed, screen can't do that, any other ideas? I was suggested "logger" yesterday but I can't figure out how to use logger in this case.05:14
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bluch!install deb05:16
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about install deb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:16
bluch!deb05:16
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ubotudeb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)05:16
dany21hi... has anyone raki and synce with an iPaq running?05:17
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khirrwhat is the repository for JRE?05:17
Dr_willis!java05:17
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository05:17
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Dr_willisits in Multiverse :)05:17
khirrbut i'm using edgy05:18
khirrhow can configure this?05:18
Dr_willis!multiverse05:19
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu05:19
Dr_willisI normally fire up adept, check on the box's that enable the other repos,  and click away. :)05:20
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khirrinstaling05:20
khirr:D05:20
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Dr_willisor enable them by editing the /etc/apt/sources.list, or use the front ends adept/synaptic to enable them.. or  use that easysource site05:20
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kimothyany one care to help out with fglrx troubles?05:22
kimothyany one care to help out with fglrx troubles?05:24
Dr_willisand  the trouble is?05:24
Dr_willisif you reply 'it dont work' im going to give you such a pinch..05:24
Dr_willis:)05:24
shaddaranyone knows how to enable/configure the power save function of a thinkpad and how to enable the middle-mouse-button of a thinkpad x41 ?05:25
kimothyI installed the drivers and activated it in systemsettings, but they work worse than the ati drivers05:25
kimothyhad to change back05:25
Dr_willisshaddar,  i think theres a thinkpad specific forum/area/wiki - ive never owned one.. so i may be wrong.. but it wont hurt to check.05:26
kimothyglxgears give about 300 fps05:26
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Dr_willisglxgears really ticks me off at times. :) i cant even rember how to make it show fps now.05:27
Dr_willisno man page, no --help05:27
ryanakcaanybody know what icon set this is? http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/45095-1.jpg05:27
ryanakcalol05:27
||arifaXHirvinen, kopete does not get my icq contacts from icq server as gaim does by default. any ideas how to fix this? is there a trick?05:27
ryanakcainfo glxgears have anything?05:28
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ryanakcawould it be crystal or something?05:28
Dr_willisryanakca,  no info.. and the silly default is now to not show fps...05:28
kimothyglxgears -printfps05:28
Dr_willishere i was trying -showfps :)05:28
kimothy:-)05:29
ryanakcaDr_willis: file a bug... :)05:29
ryanakcashould have a man page at the very least05:29
Dr_willisryanakca,  i dont think anyone really cares. :( its been this way for ages.05:29
ryanakcalol05:29
Dr_willis57464 frames in 5.7 seconds = 10128.971 FPS05:29
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Dr_willisim not even sure what package glxgears comes in.05:30
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kimothytyping fglrxinfo tells me it's using mesa05:32
kimothyany tricks up youres sleeve?05:33
shaddar[17:26]  <Dr_willis> shaddar,  i think theres a thinkpad specific forum/area/wiki - ive never owned one.. so i may be wrong.. but it wont hurt to check. <--haven't found yet ^^05:33
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khirrhow can i know if i have install JRE?05:33
kimothyJ2re package installed?05:34
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Dr_williskhirr,  java --version05:34
khirrtanks05:34
Dr_willissilly java.. its -version05:34
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=== Dr_willis thinks people need to get their -- and - arguments straightedn out!
LjLDr_willis, welcome to unix05:34
Dr_willisava version "1.5.0_08"05:35
Dr_willisJava(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_08-b03)05:35
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Dr_willisYa would think at LEAST they could include both for --version and -version05:35
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Dr_willisthats what? another 2 lines of C code. :)05:35
Random_Transithey can anyone tell me what i need to play m4p files??05:35
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kimothyi really need help with fglrx05:36
Dr_willisi really love when  a typo prints out 4 pages of help docs.. :)       guess thats better then a typo saying 'use --help' and --help option tells nothing.05:36
LjLDr_willis, for that matter there are standard GNU or even POSIX libraries for parsing arguments in a sane way. you just need to use them i guess05:36
Dr_willis:)05:36
LjLDr_willis: because the right option is either -help or -h, of course. makes perfect sense05:36
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Dr_willisX -- -whatever     is always amusing also.05:37
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khirrwhy i cant run mercury?05:37
Dr_willisI got Xnest in a window.. with a X cursor.. but nothing is starting.. heh.. now how to tell it to run a script..05:37
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ryanakcakimothy: fglrx.. that's with xgl and compiz/beryl?05:38
wildchildIs there any DJ program for (k)ubuntu like tractor or virtual DJ in windows, please help05:38
ryanakcakimothy: why not just switch over to the open source 'ati' driver... much simpler05:38
kimothyno. ati's official drivers05:38
ryanakcawildchild: hmm... dunno... amarok?05:38
kimothyi have. but they are not realy that good05:38
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Random_Transitwildchild, try terminatorx05:39
hollywoodbwildchild: there's a bunch, the agnula/demudi project has a bunch, and there should be quite a few in the regular repos as well05:39
kimothyi'm running ati driver now05:39
ryanakcakimothy: they are... I get higher fps with 'ati' than 'fglrx'... 'radeon' is junk on the other hand...05:39
ryanakcacard?05:39
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khirrwhy i cant run mercury messenger?05:39
hollywoodbwildchild: there's also ubuntustudio project05:39
kimothyradeon 9800XT05:39
wildchildhollywoodb, thx05:40
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LjLDr_willis, http://aminet.net/package/util/wb/autogui - do this on Unix ;)05:40
kimothyryanakca: Me to. But thats only because there is something wrong with the fglrx drivers05:41
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ryanakcakimothy: aka, they aren't as good as the 'ati' ones05:41
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xoxoQuestion: when i click a hyperlink in kde, its showing the cached address instead of the actual website, how do i make it show the website instead of the cache?05:42
kimothyryanakca: no. fglrx gives me about 7000 fps with working fglrx drivers and 300 with ati drivers05:42
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ryanakcano clue... look on the XGL sites... they tend to have howtos on getting fglrx set up05:43
kimothytried diverse howto's but none help me05:44
hollywoodb!fglrx05:44
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto05:44
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kimothyread it05:44
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kimothybut thanks05:45
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wildchildRandom_Transit: if u use terminatorX, what are your audio settings, I can't manage them to play mp3 file05:46
kimothyI'll change distro if I can't get it to work. Realy05:46
Random_Transiti really can't tell you, wildchild....i've only just heard of it recently05:46
Random_Transitsorry05:46
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kimothykororaa05:47
kayi need a webcam program anyone an idee?05:48
aimtrainerHi! I just installed kubuntu edgy coming from kanotix and apt-geted gaim. But somehow the gaim preferences are differemt from what I m used to. There are far less possibiliteis to configure gaim05:48
kimothyoops! sorry05:48
aimtrainerdoes anyone know how to get the old preferences?05:48
kayaimtrainer: maybe you look in your hme/you/.gaim folder05:48
kayin your old one05:49
aimtrainerkay k ll try that ..05:49
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FJ_SanchezHi there05:49
aimtrainerkay I dont have my old one anymore05:49
kayaimtrainer: so i think you have to do all agian :-/05:49
Dr_willisLjL,  actually i saw a similer tool  for linux,05:49
Dr_willisLjL,  saw it on a live cd.. i thinki even went to the programs homepage. but it was no longer being maintained.05:50
aimtrainerkay thats not the problem, but the gaim gui doesnt offer me the options I had back in my old gaim05:50
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LjLDr_willis: mantained or not, it'd never work correctly on linux. best it can do is try "--help" and hope the output is somehow machine readable... which will only be true for a handful of programs05:50
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kayaimtrainer: so it like an other gaim for you?05:51
LjLDr_willis: on amigaos, "<command> ?" gives a very standard syntax, which is easy to parse05:51
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Dr_willisLjL,  the one i saw had a set of 'tabs/configs' for the various programs. you basicially designed a little gui of check boxs/entrys that then got passed to the command.05:51
yahalomi can install kubuntu-desktop, it keeps sayign downloading headers, and stays like until it fails after a few minutes05:52
yahalomi just downloaded xubuntu-desktop, no problems05:52
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yahalomany ideas?05:52
LjLah well, that's what GUI4CLI itself does on AmigaOS. you write a textfile and design the GUI there. but this AutoGUI thing *uses* GUI4CLI and goes further, by generating the UI automatically...05:52
aimtrainerkay - basically the program looks and works the same way - just the preferences guy is like a beginners version05:52
aimtrainer*gui not guy05:53
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Dr_willisI always just used 'CanDo' :) to build my own.05:53
binary2k2yahalom: try using a different mirror, like the main ones05:53
yahalombinary2k2: i'm using without country symbol05:53
yahalombinary2k2: so no us.archive, but archive.05:53
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kayaimtrainer: hm have you lok under preference...05:54
binary2k2yahalom: it may be that there is a heavy load on the server, so you should still try another one05:54
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yahalombinary2k2: cool thanx man05:54
aimtrainerkay: yea thats the whole point - the prefernces suck05:55
jeroen__Hi all can someone help me? ive installed nero for linux on my pc but i need a serial nr does someone hase a keygen or so?05:55
aimtrainerthere are hardly an options anymore05:56
Armagguedes i'm currently using FF2 on ubuntu (the one that came preinstalled with edgy eft), and when i save files with the same name that another file has (on the same folder), it doesn't warn, it just overwrites. how can i change this behaviour?05:56
Dr_willisjeroen__,  i find k3b works better then the nero-linux stuff05:56
kayaimtrainer: hm... maybe you take your kanotix gaim and try to install it on your kubuntu :D05:56
jeroen__aha dr willis i use Ubuntu05:57
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Dr_willisjeroen__,  so....05:57
aimtrainerIll try googling some more05:57
Dr_willisinstall k3b05:57
jeroen__ok thx dr willis:)05:57
Dr_willisgnome has some  burtning front ends also.. the reviews of nero-linux are rather.. well.. less then stellar.. :)05:58
snpzk3b do things the same as Nero05:58
binary2k2jeroen__: if you use ubuntu, why do you ask on the kubuntu channel?05:58
snpzso why to use Nero?05:58
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snpz;)05:58
pyr0hi sll05:58
pyr0hi all05:58
pyr0just finished installing kubuntu05:58
snpzhi pyr005:58
pyr0now i don't know what to do next!05:58
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snpzwhat do u whant to do next05:58
snpz?05:58
snpz:D05:58
snpzuse it05:58
yahalombinary2k2: i tried it with us.archive and uk.archive same issue, u still think it's the same reason?05:58
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Armagguedesnow you can go and have teh sex05:59
yahalom0% [Waiting for headers] 05:59
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Dr_willislinux slogan 'what do you want to do next....'05:59
_pyrooo_heh05:59
jeroen__binary2k2 dont know how to log into an other05:59
_pyrooo_now really05:59
_pyrooo_i know nothing about linux and i really wanna explore, are there any manuals that can help?05:59
binary2k2jeroen__: type /join #ubuntu05:59
binary2k2yahalom: hmm05:59
yahalombinary2k2: its weird cos i can download anything, escept kubuntu-desktop06:00
_pyrooo_anyone?06:00
abattoir__pyrooo_: try the desktop guide06:00
Hawkwind_pyrooo_: Search the forums and the wiki06:00
abattoir__pyrooo_: Kmenu->Help06:00
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_pyrooo_the wiki sucks, i searched it and theres nothing there except the dekstop guide06:01
Hawkwind_pyrooo_: There are millions of things on the internet to read/do/search when it comes to Linux/Kubuntu06:01
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_pyrooo_amm, i know there are tons about linux i'm used to working with gentoo06:01
_pyrooo_it has a really big, developed wiki. anyways, i'll search. is there any preffered site to search in?06:01
HawkwindThe wiki has tons of info, you just have to know what you want to do/accomplish06:02
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_pyrooo_smm06:02
Hawkwind_pyrooo_: What do you want to do/accomplish exactly ?06:02
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_pyrooo_learn linux. learn the tree, the dirs...06:02
_pyrooo_commands06:02
abattoir_!cli06:02
ubotuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands06:02
binary2k2yahalom: you could tye looking on packages.ubuntu.com and try downloading the .deb file from one of the many mirrors06:02
andreposeI have a Kubuntu Dapper Cd How do I install server from it? When I select install it goes to the Live cd version06:02
abattoir__pyrooo_: ^^^ basic commands, to get you started06:02
_pyrooo_uninstall all the unneccecery programs kubuntu installed and install only what i want and need.06:03
andrepose?06:03
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_pyrooo_alright thanks06:03
binary2k2yahalom: then sudo dpkg -i the file and sudo apt-get -f install to get dependences06:03
_pyrooo_:)06:03
_pyrooo_yahlaom, plz identify i want to PM you06:03
aimtrainerDoes anybody here still have gaim 1.xx installed and is willing to paste me his prefs.xml please?06:04
andreposeCan someone help me?06:04
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yahalombinary2k2: same thing06:04
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Armagguedesandrepose, when you boot the liveCD06:05
Armagguedeson the Desktop you should see06:05
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Armagguedesa "Install" icon06:05
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Armagguedesit's a script that will install the OS06:05
andreposeyes. So I can still install server from there?06:05
binary2k2yahalom: strange, it's only that package that won't download?06:05
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Armagguedesi don't think so06:05
Armagguedesi think you need the server ISO06:05
mluser-homeCould someone please point me to the HOWTO on upgrading dapper -> edgy ?06:06
Armagguedesmluser-home, you DON'T want to do that06:06
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binary2k2Armagguedes: why not?06:06
_pyrooo_yahalom, plz identify.06:06
mluser-homeArmagguedes: I already did it on one machine.. but just dont remmember where the howto is06:06
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Armagguedesthere is a substancial amount of people reporting all sorts of problems with upgrades06:06
binary2k2Armagguedes: my upgrade went fine06:07
Armagguedesif you can, stick to a clean isntall06:07
Armagguedesah06:07
khirrhow can i create one folder on usr/local?06:07
Armagguedesit's your heads then06:07
Armagguedesmkdir06:07
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mluser-homeIf it fails.. I'll perform a clean install.. I already have full backups.. just want to try it06:07
mluser-homeCan someone point me to the HOWTO please?06:07
Armagguedeskhirr, though you probably need to sudo mkdir there06:07
binary2k2mluser-home: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades06:07
khirrthanks06:07
mluser-homebinary2k2: Thank you06:08
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khirrhow can i copy files there?06:08
mluser-homeI guess I need to install update-manager :)06:08
Armagguedessudo cp ORIGIN /usr/local/DESTINATION06:09
Armagguedes i'm currently using FF2 on ubuntu (the one that came preinstalled with edgy eft), and when i save files with the same name that another file has (on the same folder), it doesn't warn, it just overwrites. how can i change this behaviour?06:09
abattoir!upgrade | mluser-home06:09
ubotumluser-home: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)06:09
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andreposeOkay I have a question about Partitioning, I have two drives one is a 3gig and another is 4 gig.  The 4 gig is primary and 3 is secondary.  Where should I put the swap driver. And how should I configure the rest for server installation?06:10
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yahalombinary2k2: i get unable to fetch headers, maybe try with fix missing, but nothing needs to be fixed06:10
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sizzami'm considering a switch to kubuntu, i'm using ubuntu now.  is there a good site like www.ubuntuguide.org for Kubuntu?06:12
binary2k2yahalom: it's strange that it's just kubuntu-desktop that won't download06:12
Dr_willisandrepose,  i normally put a little swap partitionon each drive  i have.06:12
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Dr_willishow much memory you have on the machine?06:12
yahalombinary2k2: i know, i had this issue two days ago and someone i solved and i cant figure out how06:12
abattoirsizzam: many guides there are applicable to kubuntu as well06:12
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andrepose128meg06:12
andreposewhy put swap on both drives?06:13
Dr_willisso you proberly want about 512mb swap.06:13
Dr_willisor more.06:13
abattoirsizzam: you can try 'kubuntu' from your ubuntu installation as well, if you didn't know06:13
Dr_willisandrepose,  it can be more efficnent. but i dont think it willmetter much for your case06:14
sizzamabattoir: any suggestions for guides?  as a new user, i can find them, but i cant determine if they are good or not06:14
yahalombinary2k2: could it be a repo conflict, same package on two repos that i have?06:14
andreposeokay so can I put 256 on each drive?06:14
binary2k2yahalom: I'd try removing all the files in /var/lib/apt/lists/06:14
sizzamabattoir: oops, just re-read your comment, thanks06:14
Dr_willisandrepose,  id say put 512mb swap at the start of the 2nd hard drive.06:14
abattoirsizzam: i'd recommend the wiki, as it has a lot of useful info...06:14
yahalombinary2k2: that was it man, i disabled y extra repos and now it works06:14
yahalombinary2k2: well kind of, its sticky06:15
markelhasi ppl06:15
abattoirsizzam: but of course, many of the stuff there make it in from places like the fora and ubuntuguide06:15
sizzamabattoir: if i try kubuntu in ubuntu and decide i like it, would you recommend a fresh install off of a kubuntu disk?06:15
binary2k2yahalom: I have several repos in my sources.list, gb fr and mirrorservice, I don't have a problem06:15
andreposeokay.06:15
markelhastrying to set up my kubuntu in my desktop, but i'm having problems with the p2p clients06:15
markelhascan some one give me some tips!?06:15
markelhasso the thing is06:16
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andreposeshould I mount the second drive logical space at any certain point??06:16
andreposeor can I just mount it at /var/?06:16
yahalombinary2k2: how do i remove them, sudo rm  /var/lib/apt/lists/06:16
yahalom*06:16
yahalom?06:16
binary2k2yahalom: that should work06:16
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markelhasi've set the port forw to my desktop but seems somethings wrong cause can't download nothing, everything very slow. 0.1 kbs06:16
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abattoirsizzam: depends on your needs, if feasible you can do that else you can 'remove ubuntu' by removing the ubuntu-desktop package06:17
binary2k2yahalom: just make sure you don't remove the dir or the partial subdir06:17
abattoirsizzam: you ofcourse install kubuntu by installing the kubuntu-desktop package06:17
markelhasis kubuntu blocked? should i do some config!?06:17
sizzamabattoir: gotcha.  thanks for the advice06:17
yahalombinary2k2: wont do it06:17
abattoirsizzam: no problem :)06:17
markelhasif yes where!?06:17
binary2k2yahalom: what's the error?06:17
yahalombinary2k2: rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/partial': Is a directory06:19
yahalombinary2k2: but i type *06:19
binary2k2yahalom: do a ls on the dir, see if the files are still there06:19
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yahalombinary2k2: 006:20
markelhasppl some help needed!!!06:20
markelhasonly left config p2p client06:20
yahalombinary2k2: what repos do u use? i use the ubuntguide ones06:20
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binary2k2yahalom: i use the mirrorservice, gb, and fr ones06:21
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binary2k2yahalom: i did a mass pinging session to find the best ones06:22
markelhaswhat should i do else then forw the port's for my p2p client!?06:22
markelhasin my router.06:22
markelhasdoes kubuntu needs special config to be able to use p2p clients?06:22
markelhasneither azureus or ktorrent works in my kubnutu.06:23
binary2k2markelhas: my p2p clients run fine on kubuntu, but i dont use a router06:23
yahalombinary2k2: gb for great britain fr for france?06:23
markelhasi've check in a windows machine and with de same client and works fine06:23
markelhasbinary2k2: so no extra config needed!?06:24
binary2k2yahalom: yeah, the gb one is actually the same as one with out country code and french derver gives me good ping06:24
binary2k2markelhas: no, i don't need any extra config06:25
markelhasi'm using kubuntu in my laptop some time, and i've decided to change in my desktop, but i didn't check the p2p clients before installing06:25
markelhasnow can't use p2p client in it :(06:25
yahalombinary2k2: i dont get it, cos it finds all it needs, says this many packages, u want to continue, YES06:25
markelhasshould my router have some problem with kubuntu!?06:25
yahalombinary2k2: 0% fetchign headers06:25
yahalombinary2k2: this is fr. now06:26
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binary2k2yahalom: strange, if you can fetch the package list then it should have no problem with the packages06:27
yahalombinary2k2: right. but it keeps doing this until it fails06:27
binary2k2markelhas: the router should be fine with kubuntu, but i don't use one so I can't say for sure06:27
binary2k2yahalom: are you behind some kind of proxy?06:28
markelhasbinary2k2: it's strange bacause i've internet over it but no p2p clients06:28
markelhasbinary2k2: can't understand it :(06:29
yahalombinary2k2: nope, i have a router, but then why did xubuntu-desktop work?06:29
binary2k2markelhas: maybe your ISP blocks or limits p2p, some do06:29
markelhasi've try evan upgrade my firmaware roter06:29
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markelhasbinary2k2: not because if a connect the cliente via windows machine works fine06:29
moHi06:30
binary2k2yahalom: sorry to say it but, i have no clue why it's not working06:30
yahalombinary2k2: oh that so weird06:30
yahalombinary2k2: i used synaptic and then it said "some packages cannot be received do u want to ignore them?"06:30
moI'm having a problem with mkinitrd06:30
binary2k2markelhas: matbe you have a slow file, on p2p some are fast most are slow06:30
yahalombinary2k2: so i said yes and now its doing it06:30
yahalombinary2k2: do i need to file a bug or am i missing something06:31
yahalom?06:31
moI've compiled 2.6.17.13, and it worked just fine (without lvm support)06:31
moAnd mkinitrd tells me:06:31
yahalombinary2k2: man u should have waited a min longer :P06:31
mo"Finding all volume groups - No volume groups found - /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: 253:0: Cannot find LVM device"06:32
binary2k2yahalom: you'll have to check the dependences of kun06:32
moAnd then just stops06:32
moDoes anyone have an idea, what I can do about this?06:32
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binary2k2yahalom: *kubuntu-desktop06:32
markelhasso it's must be a problem with kubuntu or my router/kubuntu06:32
markelhasbinary2k2: same file in windows fast ddl, kubuntu slow, stoped06:32
markelhas:(06:32
markelhasbinary2k2: i've check so many things, i don't remember what to look more.....06:32
binary2k2yahalom: to make sure you get them all06:32
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_JPouch, i just deleted a wrong dir in konq using shift+del06:32
yahalombinary2k2: yeah. thanx for ur time. u helped.06:32
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_JPany way to restore those deleted files?06:32
yahalombinary2k2: *kubuntu-desktop just that?06:32
binary2k2yahalom: if you install all the dependences of that, it will be like it's installed because kubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package06:33
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binary2k2yahalom: I don't know how to help then, sorry06:34
binary2k2opps06:34
binary2k2that's to markelhas06:34
yahalombinary2k2: it works now, i said "u helped me" as in "thank u for helping me"06:34
moWhy does mkinitrd tell me, that it hasn't found any LVM groups, although I haven't compiled the kernel with lvm support?06:34
binary2k2yahalom: that's what heppens when you talk to 2 ppl at the same time :P06:34
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markelhasbinary2k2: what's for me!?06:36
binary2k2markelhas: i said: I don't know how to help, sorry06:36
markelhasbinary2k2: oki06:36
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binary2k2markelhas: ask on the forums, you'll get more eyes on the problem06:37
dennisterg'day all06:37
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dennisteri'm having a problem with kmplayer vis a vis a particular source, and i'm confused about which config files to edit...no matter what i do, whenever i try to play one source it says xine isn't running06:39
dennistercan someone help me set it up pls?06:39
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dennisterbinary2k2?06:41
holotoneEvery time I turn on my USB hard drive (which mounted fine in the past), now I get this error:06:41
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holotone"mount: can't find /dev/sdb3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"06:41
binary2k2dennister: I don't have kmplayer installed so I don't know06:41
holotoneany ideas?06:41
dennisterk, thx anyway06:41
dennisterholotone: have u looked at fstab to see if anything's changed?06:42
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holotonenope, all looks the same06:42
holotonedennister: I never had to have an entry for this device before, it just automounted06:42
dennisterok...r u using kcontrol?06:43
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wildchilddoes anyone here uses terminatorx; I can't set up audio device ?06:43
holotonedennister: For what? I usually just plug it in, it asks if I want to open in a new window, and I'm done06:43
iraQ. Any one get KDE4.0 runing in edgy?06:44
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iraI am trying to add the source to adapt but it wont take the line cut and paisted from the web page06:45
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dennisterholotone: if u have a terminal window open, just type in "kcontrol"; if not go to k-menu--->control center, or k-menu-->system settings06:45
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Random_Transitcan i safely set a root password in ubuntu by using passwd?06:45
dennisterRandom_Transit: it's not advisable for safety06:46
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dennisterabattoir: :)06:46
abattoirhello dennister :)06:47
dennisterabattoir: u're always so helpful and knowledgeable...know kmplayer at all?06:47
abattoirheh06:47
abattoirdennister: a bit06:47
abattoirdennister: what do you need?06:47
Random_Transitdennister, but using passwd won't really screw with anything will it?06:47
dennisteri'm having a problem with xine for one pariticular source...no matter what i do i get "xine not running"06:47
abattoirdennister: a stream?06:48
Armagguedes i'm currently using FF2 on ubuntu (the one that came preinstalled with edgy eft), and when i save files with the same name that another file has (on the same folder), it doesn't warn, it just overwrites. how can i change this behaviour?06:48
dennistermy tuner06:48
abattoirArmagguedes: i thought it appends a no. to it06:48
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abattoirdennister: have you tried kaffeine?06:49
dennisterRandom_Transit: if ur new to k/ubuntu, just don't do it06:49
abattoir(but since that uses the xine backend too...)06:49
Random_Transiti'm not new to ubuntu06:49
Armagguedesabattoir, ??06:49
Armagguedeswhat do you mean06:49
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dennisterabattoir: yes, but just for movies/avi files and music06:49
abattoirArmagguedes: from what i've seen, if you have file.ext, and save another file.ext, the second one becomes file(1).ext06:50
dennisteralmost everything uses xine as the server06:50
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Armagguedesi'm using "save target as"06:50
Random_Transitdoes anyone here know of a way to strip the encryption from DRMed music bought on iTunes?06:50
Armagguedesor wtv06:50
Armagguedesnot the download manager06:50
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abattoirdennister: i don't really know what is causing the error... any other errors?06:51
dennisteri've been struggling with mplayer's sound, so i thought i could get at kmplayer better, and use it instead...then i found the dvb capability with kmplayer/xine and i'm so excited06:51
abattoirArmagguedes: oh, then i'm not sure, sorry, maybe there is an extension that fixes that06:51
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dennisterhold on:06:51
lupine_85Random_Transit: solution #1 is to not use iTunes :). But IIRC there /is/ a way to un-DRM them06:51
binary2k2Random_Transit: only way I know is to burn it to a cd as CD audio and re rip it06:51
abattoirRandom_Transit: there used to be pytunes...06:51
lupine_85highly illegal, mst likely06:51
abattoirRandom_Transit: but it doesn't support FairPlay, afaik06:52
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abattoirRandom_Transit: FairPlay has been broken, but there apparently won't be an opensource app which 'strips' it06:52
Random_Transityeah, see, i downloaded this album off of demonoid, but the dude who uploaded it, left the tracks in m4p format06:52
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abattoirbut tbh, this really isn't the place to talk about it06:53
holotonedennister: once I'm in kcontrol, then what?06:53
dennisterabattoir: whenever i type in "kmplayer /dev/video0" all i get, besides the gui popping up with the xine not running message at the bottom, is (in terminal) :06:53
dennisterkxineplayer -wid 41943277 -f '/home/cathy/.kde/share/apps/kmplayer/xine_config' -vo xv -ao alsa -cb kmplayer-9535/KMPlayerCallback-0 -c QLayout "unnamed" added to QWidget "unnamed", which already has a layout06:53
abattoirdennister: and that is the tv tuner card?06:53
dennisterabattoir: it's a hauppauge wintv 250, and it does work06:54
abattoirdennister: i think you can ignore the QLayout error06:54
abattoirdennister: tried stuff like mythtv?06:54
dennisterholotone: go to system administration, disks and filesystems06:54
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holotonedennister: Ok, then...?06:54
abattoiror even kdetv06:54
dennisterabattoir: yes, but mythtv uses the same settings for my tuner as mplayer/kmplayer06:55
abattoirdennister: sorry, don't know, maybe #mythtv ?06:55
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robmag89.39.4.3906:55
dennisteri need to understand kmplayer, and then i can use my tuner in mythtv...kdetv doesn't support my tuner card06:55
holotonedennister: entered administrative mode, and right clicked on the partition, selected "modify"06:55
holotonedennister: but nothing is happening06:55
dennisterholotone: yes06:55
holotonedennister: nothing at all06:56
dennisterholotone: have u entered administrator mode? and entered password?06:56
holotonedennister: yes06:56
dennisterhmm06:56
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dennisterholotone: is there anything under mount point column?06:57
holotonedennister: viewing the device in the gnome disc utility says there are no partitions06:57
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holotonedennister: nothing under mount point in kcontrol06:58
joe3kdennister: don't really know what's goin on but tvtime is a great tv app too06:58
holotonedennister: unlinke the gnome disk utility, the kcontrol disc utility does show the partitions06:58
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dennisterholotone: i'm not up on gnome; try clicking 'new' in kcontrol06:59
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dennisterjoe3k: tytime only supports bt chipset tuners, not my ivtv tuner07:00
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joe3kdennister: hm i thought general any v4l/v4l2 device, i've saa7134 and works07:00
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dennisteri've tried tvtime, "no signal"07:01
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dennistersame with motv, kdetv, xawtv...07:01
holotonedennister: "can't read superblock" after I create new mount through kcontrol and select enable07:01
bthibaulthi, i'm trying to apt-get flashplugin-nonfree , but i don't think i have the right repository listed07:01
bthibaultwhich one do i need07:01
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dennisterholotone: k, you may need to reboot and see if the filesystem is corrupt...and run fsck07:02
joe3kdennister: does it have at least an v4l[2]  driver?07:02
abattoir!flashplugin-nonfree07:02
dennisterthat "superblock message is worrisome07:02
ubotuflashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)07:02
abattoirbthibault: multiverse07:02
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dennisterjoe3k: it's ok, i've got mythtv almost running perfectly, and it's mainly just the sound that i have to fix...and mythtv is a lot of work07:03
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bthibaultabattoir: is this it?07:03
holotonedennister: how do I run fsck @ boot?07:03
bthibaultdeb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe07:03
bthibault multiverse07:03
dennisterso i don't really want to try different tv apps at this poiint07:03
bthibaulti have that line uncommented but it's not working07:04
dennisterholotone: when it's booting up, hit escape key for verbose07:04
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holotonedennister: then?07:04
holotonedennister: it'll be an option?07:04
dennisterit'll check all the filesystems to see if they're clean or giving error messages07:04
holotonegotcha07:04
holotonethanks, rebooting, brb07:04
sizzami was using the 'generic' kernel, i then installed nvidia-glx via apt-get, and now after i rebooted, im running the 386 kernel07:05
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binary2k2bthibault: you want the linw deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse07:05
binary2k2line*07:05
bthibaultbinary2k2: thanks !07:05
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holotonedennister: hitting esc at boot didn't do anything07:10
holotonedennister: can I run fsck without rebooting?07:11
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binary2k2holotone: it has to be run while the filesystem is unmounted07:11
holotonebinary2k2: I can't get it to mount anyhow, so that works07:12
holotonebinary2k2: that's actually the problem07:12
binary2k2holotone: or is that read only? one or the other :P07:12
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holotonewhat would be the command to check an unmounted fat32 partition located at /dev/sdb3 with fsck?07:13
dennisterholotone: sorry about that bum steer then, it always worked for me07:13
Zarephathanyone know of a good diary/daily journal program for Kubuntu?07:13
holotonedennister: no worries..!07:13
holotonedennister: what would be the command to check an unmounted fat32 partition located at /dev/sdb3 with fsck?07:14
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binary2k2holotone: sudo sfck /dev/sdb3 should work07:14
binary2k2holotone: sudo fsck /dev/sdb3 rather07:14
holotonebinary2k2: heh, thanks07:15
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natexi recently tried the kde4 testing packages. Is there a way to completely remove it along with everything that was installed with it?07:15
holotonebinary2k2: prompted with "FATs differ, but appear to be intact. Use which FAT?"07:15
Zarephathholotone,: You can also issue man fsck from the terminal and it will give you details on using it.07:15
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dennisterbinary2k2: i'll let u help holotone :) u have the commands at ur fingertips :)07:15
holotoneZarephath: man pages are horribly formatted and never make sense to my brain07:16
binary2k2dennister: noooooo :P07:16
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binary2k2holotone: do you get any options?07:16
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holotonewhen running fsck on this partition, I am prompted with "FATs differ, but appear to be intact. Use which FAT?" 1) Use First Fat 2) Use Second FAT07:17
joe3kholotone: you can do man:/ even in konqueror if you like ;-)07:17
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holotonejoe3k: handy tip, thanks!07:17
buzis there any chance to get a working install of kubuntu onto 1GB of flash?07:17
binary2k2holotone: try 107:17
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Zarephathjoe3k,: Yeah you can even google for the man pages on the web and get them right there....possibly with different formatting ;-O07:18
holotonePrompted with "Bad File Name" 1) Drop file, 2) Rename file, 3) Auto-rename 4) keep it07:18
natexin other words. how can I make sure to remove all deps of a package?07:18
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Zarephathnatex, : use the purge option..or use synaptic and it will give you the option to remove all files for a given .deb file07:19
binary2k2holotone: you can try option 407:19
iraany one setup wine32 under amd64?07:19
natexthanks Zarephath07:19
bthibaultguys, i'm having a performance issue, i'm running on a AMD Sempron 3000, but my process is constantly pegged out, this should be enough to run xorg/ KDE right ?07:20
bthibault*processor07:20
Zarephathira: Uhhh..that might be a tad difficult to do...you can try a loopback setup running 32bit..then install wine under it I suppose07:20
holotonebinary2k2: Ok, now prompted with "Duplicate Directory Entry" 1) Drop First, 2) Drop Second, 3) Rename first, 4) rename second, 5) auto-rename first, 6) auto-rename second07:20
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irainteresting07:20
Zarephathbthibault, : I would assume so..07:20
joe3kbthibault: tried process table (ctrl+esc) or "top" ?07:21
binary2k2holotone: you'll probably want 4 or 507:21
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holotonebinary2k2: another odd thing is that the timestamp on these directories are from 198707:21
holotonebinary2k2: something's definetly farked07:21
holotonebinary2k2: would it be best to autorename the first or second?07:21
iratried this but it didnt work http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18555707:21
markelhasppl need help config p2p clients, anyone!?07:21
bthibaultjoe3k: yeah i've done top, its really not showing much activity, but my superkaramba CPU monitor is showing that its maxed out07:21
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joe3kbthibault: hm maybe it's the superkaramba's CPU monitor that's broken07:22
klerfaythttp://www.nasa.gov/home/index.html?skipIntro=1 - doesn't work in konqi07:22
bthibaultjoe3k: when i scroll any windows i can see the monitor refreshing every 1-2 seconds its pretty bad07:22
binary2k2holotone: you can't really tell, just have to pivk one07:22
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binary2k2*pick07:22
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bthibaultjoe3k: everytime i drag a window around the screen , i see the cpu spike to the max07:23
holotonebinary2k2: I think this is definetly messed up, there seems to be hundreds of duplicate directory entries07:23
holotonebinary2k2: that's not normal, is it?07:23
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binary2k2holotone: no, something messed up your FAT07:23
Armagguedesprobably hamburgers ands pizza07:24
bthibaultprobably just time for a new computer07:24
joe3kbthibault: i have celeron 2,407:24
natexZarephath: I used apt-get autoremove foo07:24
buzbthibault: sempron 3000 is more than enough07:24
buztheres something wrong07:24
holotonebinary2k2: any way to save the data? It was a days work there :(07:24
joe3kbthibault: if you drag window and cpu goes high, it's normal i think07:24
joe3kbthibault: the scrolling is not so ok though07:25
mentokanyone know how to get the creative Sound Blaster X-Fi sound card working?07:25
binary2k2holotone: as long as you choose rename, nothing should be deleted07:25
joe3kbthibault: can you see which process is causing this?07:25
wildchildthere was an error initializing the audio i/o layer. You wil not be able to play or record audio. How can I set up layer?07:25
joe3kbthibault: eg run top in console, make it always on top and try to "scroll"07:26
hollywoodbwildchild: what app?07:26
binary2k2wildchild: that audacity?07:26
wildchildyes07:26
wildchildaudacity07:26
wildchildbinary2k207:26
bthibaultjoe3k: when i scroll down in firefox Xorg is jumping to 94% CPU07:27
binary2k2wildchild: you have to get aRts to suspend07:27
joe3kbthibault: does it do on every html page or on any page?07:27
binary2k2wildchild: you can do it from the aRts applet07:27
wildchildbinary2k2: how07:27
bthibaultjoe3k: any page07:27
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wildchilddon't even know what's applet07:27
bthibaultjoe3k: i also have transluceny and shadow effects turned off so there must be some setting causing it to spike07:28
joe3kbthibault: is it the same with konqueror?07:28
bthibaultjoe3k: let me check07:28
binary2k2wildchild: right-click on the pannel where the window list is and cloose "Add Applet to Pannel..."07:28
dennistermy god! if this channel was anything like mythtv channel i'd go nuts07:28
joe3kbthibault: it could be caused maybe by the card drivers, not sure07:28
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dennisteri will *never* try to ask for any help there again07:29
binary2k2wildchild: then choose aRts control and add07:29
joe3kdennister: why?07:29
dennister<---is so angry she's shaking07:29
dennisterall they can do is complain about how u ask questions07:29
joe3khehe07:29
dennisterbrb...i need another pack of smokes to calm down07:30
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bthibaultjoe3k: yeah, same thing in konqueror07:30
bthibaultjoe3k: the card driver thing actually crossed my mind too07:30
joe3kbthibault: what card/driver do you use?07:30
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wildchildbinary2k2: can't find aRts07:31
bthibaultjoe3k:  generic i think , i just xorg pick automatically for me :)07:31
joe3kbthibault: ok07:31
bthibaultjoe3k:  can i change by running dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg?07:31
joe3kbthibault: i'd just check one more thing: run konqueror/firefox from console and check whether you get any X warnings/errors07:31
bthibaultjoe3k: ok, one sec07:31
binary2k2wildchild: you may need kdeaddons installed07:32
joe3kbthibault: hehe not sure i never used that stuff07:32
joe3kbthibault: i had to setup my xorg.conf manually anyway since i have three server layouts07:32
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binary2k2wildchild: or you can try in konsole: killall artsd07:32
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bthibaultjoe3k: i get this error07:32
bthibault 1680007:32
bthibaultjoe3k: oops07:32
bthibaultjoe3k: this error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16607:32
joe3kbthibault: hmmm i think this is harmless07:33
bthibaultok07:33
joe3kbthibault: check whether you get some during scrolling07:33
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hollywoodbbthibault: that error is due to wacom devices being listed in your xorg.conf... there's info in the forums how to remove that, but other than that warning it doesn't hurt anything07:33
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binary2k2bthibault: that's just the wacom error, known bug, harmless07:34
bthibaultjoe3k: no other erros07:34
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wallacan anyone give me a hand with a gtkpod problem?07:34
joe3kbthibault: ok what's your video card?07:34
bernd_hi everybody07:34
binary2k2walla: depends on the problem07:34
bthibaultjoe3k: not sure, i'll have to open my box up and check07:34
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joe3kbthibault: lspci will help07:34
wallait doesn't seem to recognize my ipod07:34
bernd_can anybody help me with my fstab?07:35
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wallait says there's no listing for media/sda2 in my mtab07:35
mentokwalla: is it mac formatted or win?07:35
bthibaultjoe3k:  nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] 07:35
binary2k2walla: have you recently updated it, with itunes or something07:35
wallawin07:35
wallano07:35
wallai've uninstalled gtkpod and reinstall about 2 times now07:35
joe3kbthibault: ok, now check your xorg.conf plz, section "Device", "Driver" option07:36
joe3kbthibault: you should have nv or nvidia there07:36
wallaand i have no problem adding and removing songs with amarok or the default program that opens with the ipod07:36
joe3ki think once i had vesa and it was sloooooooow07:36
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binary2k2walla: do you get any errors?07:36
joe3kbernd_: what do you need?07:36
wallaterminal output - (gtkpod:27588): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_text_buffer_emit_insert: assertion `g_utf8_validate (text, len, NULL)' failed07:37
Bubba_Gump:D07:37
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bthibaultjoe3k: it's just listed as generic07:37
aimtrainerhi! That: linux-image-2.6.15-23-686 is the kernel I need for an intel core duo 2300 right?07:37
wallaand the mstab earror which i mentioned07:37
hollywoodbaimtrainer: no07:38
aimtrainerok which one hollywood?07:38
aimtrainer:)07:38
joe3kbthibault: you mean "Driver" "generic"?07:38
binary2k2walla: did you mount it first07:38
hollywoodb-generic is fine07:38
wallait mounts automatically when plugged in07:39
bthibaultjoe3k: Driver  "vesa"07:39
joe3kbthibault: ok that'll be the problem07:39
hollywoodbaimtrainer: linux-image-generic is fine... 'sudo apt-cache search' will show that linux-image-686 is obsolete (and 2.6.15 is an old kernel version)07:39
binary2k2walla: is it a mtab error or a fstab error?07:39
aimtrainerhollywoodb: could you please give me the name of the kernel I need07:39
joe3kbthibault: you can try to replace the vesa with "nv"07:39
aimtrainerhollywoodb sry didtn see that07:40
wallaboth07:40
aimtrainerthanks07:40
wallamount: can't find /media/sda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab07:40
joe3kbthibault: that's open source driver for nvidia cards, but it can't do 3d07:40
bthibaultjoe3k: ok i'll do that and restart X07:40
bthibaultjoe3k: thanks, i'll be back in a sec07:40
joe3kbthibault: if you want the "full power" you need nvidia-glx07:40
joe3k!nvidia07:40
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:40
joe3kbthibault: here it is07:40
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twosouls82or nvidia-glx-legacy if you have an older card07:40
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binary2k2walla: try adding a line like "/dev/sda2 /media/sda2 vfat defaults,noauto 0 0" to /etc/fstab07:41
joe3kbthibault: it's easy just need to install few packages and set the "Driver" to "nvidia"07:41
tdnHow do I access my Compact Flash card from Kubuntu? I have a PCMCIA CF-readeer. When I insert the CF card nothing happens. I am watching dmesg, but nothing new appears.07:42
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wallawell when i closed gtkpod i get this output07:43
wallaumount: /media/sda2 is not mounted (according to mtab)07:43
wallaand adding a line that line to fstab didn't work07:43
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tdnOups. Something does indeed appeaar in dmesg. (I was looking at dmesg at the wrong host) This is what I get in dmesg: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=30307:45
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binary2k2walla: then it must not be mounted, remove the line from fstab, open konsole and type pmount /dev/sda207:45
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Blissextdn: it is probably one of the many buggy PCMCIA chipsets (hde: lost interrupt)07:46
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wallaError: device /dev/sda2 is already mounted to /media/ipod07:46
wallathat's the message i get when i try to mount it07:46
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tdnBlissex, I have an IBM Thinkpad T42. Do you know if that has a buggy PCMCIA chipset? Do you have any suggestions on what to do?07:46
binary2k2is there any files in /media/ipod ?07:47
eilker!vesa > eilker07:47
Blissextdn: the CF reader...07:47
tdnBlissex, is the CF reader broken?07:48
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wallai found a tutorial for install gtkpod, i think i'll just try running through that to see if i missed something07:48
eilkerpeople i have login problem , and i saw in forums it may releated with video card driver, do i need to modify xorg.conf for getting vesa driver __?07:49
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Blissextdn: pretty likely.07:49
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Blissexeilker: that usually works, even if a bit more slowly.07:50
wildchildbinary2k2: if ur still here I added aRts ..07:50
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binary2k2wildchild: if you right click on the applet and cloose "aRts Status" you can then suspend aRts07:51
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tdnBlissex, is it broken by design or is it broken like something has become defective in it and I should complain to the retailer to get a new reader?07:51
wildchildbinary2k2: ok07:51
Blissextdn: probably by design.07:51
wildchildbinary2k2:will now work07:51
binary2k2wildchild: that's how I get audacity to work for me07:52
eilkerblissex: what must i do for getting vesa ? this is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31273/07:52
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tdnBlissex, ok. It is from Kingston. Do you know anywhere I can check if this is a model known to cause problems in Linux? It works perfectly fine in Windows.07:52
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wildchildbinary2k2: now it says: please check the output audio device07:53
wildchildbinary2k2: and the project sample rate07:53
eilkerblissex: Driver"vesa"   // is tihs enough in xorg.conf ?07:53
Blissextdn: google it... Whether it works with MS Windows is quite unimportant. And whether it _really_ works in MS Windows is another problem...07:53
Blissexeilker: usually yes.07:53
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binary2k2wildchild: have a look in the setting or audacity to make sure its setup right07:54
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wildchildbinary2k2: error start when I click on the icon of audacity: there was an error initializing the audio i/o layer. You wil not be able to play or record audio07:56
tdnBlissex, what do you mean by "_really_ works"?07:56
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binary2k2try pressing Alt-F2 and run "sudo killall -9 artsd"07:56
binary2k2change to "kdesu killall -9 artsd"07:57
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Blissextdn: reliably. Instead of just appearing to work.07:57
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bthibaultjoe3k: ahh, thats better07:57
bthibaultjoe3k: thanks07:57
joe3kbthibault: you're welcome07:57
joe3kbthibault: did you notice the nvidia binary howto?07:58
bthibaultjoe3k: no i didn't07:58
joe3kbthibault: if you ever want to use 3d acceleration you'll need to use the nvidia binary drivers07:58
joe3k!nvidia07:58
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto07:58
joe3kbthibault: it's easy just need to install few packages and set the "Driver" to "nvidia"07:58
bthibaultjoe3k: so use this instead of the generic nv driver?07:58
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joe3kbthibault: if you're lucky with 2d you don't need to07:59
joe3kbthibault: otherwise yes07:59
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tdnBlissex, ok.07:59
joe3kbthibault: i tried to tell you but you were too fast :)07:59
bthibaultjoe3k: ha, thanks, i appreciate the help , owe you a beer08:00
joe3khehe08:00
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wildchildbinary2k2: dosn't help. Maybe i don't have correct set up in system settings -> sound system08:01
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binary2k2wildchild: I just have the default set up in sound system and I have it working08:02
wildchild:s08:02
eilker!tdfx >eilker08:02
wildchildhow is that with amarok don't have problems..08:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about tdfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:03
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ryanakcahow do you draw a custom trajectory in open office impress?08:04
dennister!mplayer08:05
ubotumplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile08:05
ubotuFor Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.08:05
Dendeighhi there - does anybody know, what can cause df to report wrong available size on an ext3-partition?08:05
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nextstateI just got a new AMD X2 and the 64bit install of kubuntu fails while trying to boot linux. Anybody run into this problem before?08:08
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Dendeighnextstate: what is the error message an what motherboard are you using?08:09
Jack1hi08:09
nextstateI'm using an asus crosshair08:09
Jack1can anyone help? after an edgy upgrade i  cannot login anymore, just startx starts a gnome session08:09
Jack1it kicks me out after few secs08:10
nextstatethe error is something about a kernel param? sorry I've forgotton08:10
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Dendeighnextstate: I had similar problems on an Asus M2N-E - I had to update the BIOS to fix this (before I always ran into kernel panic with ACPI enabled)08:11
nextstateDendeigh: so I need to disable ACPI?08:11
nextstatein the bios?08:11
Dendeighno, you can disable ACPI while booting the install CD08:12
Dendeighwhat error message do you get?08:12
nextstateoh, you mean a kernal param08:12
Dendeighyes08:12
nextstateDendeigh: gimee a sec to reboot the machine08:12
Dendeigh"noapic acpi=off" ...08:13
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DendeighJack1: does the login-screen show up on boot?08:13
nextstateDendeigh: kernel panic - not syncing: IO-APIC + timer doesn't work! Try using the 'noaipic' kernel parameter08:15
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nextstatemaybe I should read the error messages more carefully :)08:15
Lam_when i used windows, i would sometimes compress rar files with a password and make it so that you can't peek inside to see filenames of the contents.  now that i'm on linux, anytime i try to decompress those rar files, ark archiver crashes08:16
Dendeighnextstate: that is exactly the same message I got - I would suggest a BIOS upgrade08:16
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nextstateDendeigh: ok, I'll look for one. I used the 'noapic' param and it seems to be booting into kubuntu now. thanks.08:18
Jack1Dendeigh: yes it does08:19
Jack1Dendeigh: BUT THEN IT KICKS ME OUT AND I AM at the login screen again08:19
hollywoodbLam_: try unrar in a terminal08:19
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Lam_hollywoodb: ok i'll try that. thanks08:19
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DendeighJack1:  ok, have you checked the logfiles?08:20
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DendeighJack1:  /var/log/Xorg.0.log & /var/log/syslog08:21
Jack1not Dendeigh08:21
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Jack1mom Dendeigh08:21
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nagyvhello! I would like to help a friend to activate it's wifi card, but I ude KDE and he uses GNOME. I decided to try out remote desktop. He authorized me, but the connection is just building up, but never succeeds. The krdc window seems to be frozen.08:29
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nagyvI put into krdc: vnc:/his.ipa.ddr.ess:0 Is this the right way?08:30
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Jack1Dendeigh: hmm i can see it here from windows but its an editor file and it is weird to read08:35
Jack1Dendeigh: what should i look for ? file is long08:35
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dennisteranyone have any idea how to 'recompile' an application like mplayer?08:44
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Dr_willisget the source.. compile away.. :)08:46
Dr_willisor learn how to build from the src-debs  - never done that.08:46
zorglu_http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85190 <- is aboutmplayer compilation, quite old thru08:46
Bubba_Gumpis there a quick way to flip between the player window and the full maximised screen in Amarok ?08:46
zorglu_im interested too about a newer version of mplayer :)08:46
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Hawkwinddennister: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5100308:46
dennisterthx...compiling scares me08:46
Hawkwinddennister: Read that URL to learn how to build .debs really easily08:46
dennisterhi hawkwind :)08:47
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dennisterand yet someone last night said i should recompile my kernel, too08:47
Dr_williswhy bother - unless thers somthing you need in the newer ones.08:48
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Hawkwinddennister: I build the latest kernel for Dapper/Edgy the day it's released on kernel.org.  I have a script that does it all for me and builds .deb packages of it08:48
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vieirahi ppl08:48
vieiracan u help me out config amule?08:49
zorglu_in the new versions of mplayer, there is -fixed-vo which can be interesting08:49
vieiratryng to ddl serve list but can't connect08:49
dennisteri just want mplayer to work :( to give me sound...i think it's a codecs problem08:49
vieirasays  Failed to download the server list from http://ed2k.2x4u.de/hkaoxqzu/min/server.met08:49
Dr_willisits always a codec problem. :)08:49
vieiraany tips!?08:49
zorglu_dennister: this is unlikely to be a version problem08:49
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Dr_willisvieira,  perhaps the server is down..08:49
dennisterand yet with my previous installation of edgy mplay did work08:49
Dr_willisvieira,  check the amule page for alternatives perhaps. (never used amule)08:50
dennister*mplayer08:50
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vieiraDr_willis: i can't config any p2p client in my kubuntu08:50
vieiraDr_willis: 0.0kb speed08:50
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vieiraDr_willis: i've config every ports fw in my router08:51
Jack1has anyone got any idea for my prob describe above? the login thing?08:51
dennisterand these man pages and the documentation on the mplayer site go on forever08:51
vieiraDr_willis: i think my router has problems with linux08:51
Dr_willisvieira,  sounds like a router/ports issue - or set the box to be on the routers dmz.08:51
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zorglu_dennister: try simple video with easy codec08:51
Dr_willisktorrent, and others can auto-set the ports  on routers that have upnp features08:51
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vieiraDr_willis: can u give me some help trying to solve this!?08:51
Dr_willisvieira,  could try  utorrent.exe and wine. :)08:51
vieiraDr_willis: the fwr of the ports are ok because if a connect via windows ddl works just fine08:52
Dr_willisvieira,  id see if the router has a dmz setting, and set the linux box to be on the dmz.08:52
joe3kdennister: if you don't need completely new version, only add few patches i'd consider using apt-get build-dep and source, then debuild, it's much easier08:52
dennisterkinda difficult to grasp all at once...zorglu: mplayer works when i use an avi file, but yesterday it worked for tuner output and today with this install it doesn't08:52
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vieiraDr_willis: utorrent works just fine in windows :808:52
Dr_williscould be some firewall stuff under linux blocking it.. but ive not had the issue.08:52
Dr_willisim using  'wine utorrent.exe' right now. :)08:52
vieiraDr_willis: humm going to try to see if there is a dmz zone config in the router08:53
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zorglu_dennister: this confirms this is not a mplayer version issue08:53
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Dr_willistorrennts can be such... a hassle.. :)08:53
vieiraDr_willis: yap, i've put in dmz zone08:53
vieiraDr_willis: and now?08:53
dennistermy head is swimming...yes, which is why i'm giving it...not only am i unwilling to (at this point) learn how to recompile, but i don't think it's really necessary08:53
Bubba_GumpDr_willis: heh, and a distraction, too :D08:54
Dr_willisvieira,  try the torrents again.. :) what else.08:54
Dr_williscould go to one of the 'torrent check' sites that scans your box to insure the ports are open.08:54
vieiraDr_willis: that's it!08:54
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Dr_willisYou sure when you boot to linux - it gets the same ip as when you are booted to windows. :)08:54
hollywoodbdennister: try vlc perhaps... I've been having the occasional odd audio error with mplayer as well... I'm going to try fetch the codecs tarball from mplayer's site and unpack it myself08:54
vieiraDr_willis: no changes the same :(08:54
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vieiraDr_willis: 0.0 kb/s08:55
nagyvis here anyone who already used a vncclient? I would like to help out a GNOME using friend, and try out vnc at the same time. He already started a vncserver and allowed view access, but I can not connect.08:55
vieiraDr_willis: some times 0.2 or 0.3 nothing better than that08:55
dennisteri just installed vlc, but it's not showing up in my menus yet...08:56
Dr_willisnagyv,  he ran 'vncserver' or did he just enable desktop shareing.08:56
vieirappl any ideias!?08:56
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vieirajust for remark the torrent is running fast in a windows machine08:57
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Dr_willisvieira,  try  http://www.utorrent.com/testport.php?port=1454808:57
nagyvDr_willis: both, but when running vncserver the system talked about a password, although he also set up a password when allowed shareing. (He first allowed sharing, and then we realized that there is no vncserver installed nor running)08:57
dennisterwould someone be able willing to look at my konsole output with mplayer...and take a stab at telling me how to fix the mplayer sound/codec issue?08:57
vieiraalso try azures in both machines08:57
hollywoodbdennister: pastebin it08:57
dennister!pastebin08:57
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)08:57
Dr_willisvieira,  try wine and utorrent, try the other torrent toublshooting sites - they may mention yoru router.08:58
Dr_willischeck to see if you set up any firewalling rules on the linxu box.08:58
vieiraDr_willis: where can i check firewalling setting in linux!?08:58
vieirathe link u gave me i've change to port because ktorrent uses 6881, and says ok08:59
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vieiraDr_willis: but the slow connections is there :(08:59
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Dr_willisits possible that utorrent under windows is NOT using that port.. it may be your isp blocking that port.09:00
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Dr_willisutorrent can even randomize that port.09:00
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zorglu_hmm it was a error, mplayer -fixed-vo doesnt work even on cvs version from yesterday  :)09:01
manchickenAnybody know how to get amarok working with MTP?09:01
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dennisterhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31293/09:01
dennisteri do have the codecs that the mplayer output refers to, btw, mplayer just can't find them09:02
Dr_willisit may be looking in the wrong place.09:03
dennisterexactly09:03
Dr_williswhen ya start mplayer from the shell. it may print out where its looking09:03
dennisterthat's what my pastebin is: output from the shell09:03
Dr_willisusr/lib/codecs/wnvplay1.dll09:04
Dr_willisseems to be where mine are at.09:04
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zorglu_dennister: Try adding the scale filter, e.g. -vf spp,scale instead of -vf spp. ?09:04
hollywoodbdennister: I don't have a /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll either, in fact I don't have it at all... have other codecs though09:04
zorglu_btw -fixed-vo seems to work but only in full screen09:05
Dr_willis /usr/lib/win32    but no avisynth.dll either09:06
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dennistermy codecs are in /usr/lib/codecs and /usr/lib/win32...hold on, no avisyth...tons of others09:06
hollywoodbI'm downloading the official codecs pack from mplayerhq.hu now to see if its in there09:06
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dennisterthx hollywoodb09:07
Dr_willisi have a avisynth.dll  in my cedega/windows dirs :)09:07
hollywoodbdennister: the stuff in /usr/lib/win32 are just symlinks to /usr/lib/codecs09:07
zeeohey guys when i'm playing Pandora.com radio a flash based radio it runs fine for 10 15 mins then it seems when say kmess trys to make a beep or sound09:07
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zeeoit makes that sound then the pandora09:07
zeeostops working09:07
zeeoand i have to close firefox09:07
zeeoand all that09:07
zeeoand reopen09:07
zeeoto fix09:07
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hollywoodb!enter | zeeo09:07
ubotuzeeo: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.09:07
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Dr_williszeeo,  using the flash9 beta?09:08
zeeolol ya i flood09:08
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zeeodr willis just what is09:08
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zeeoinstlaled with firefox09:08
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zeeowow net split?09:09
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Dr_willis!flash09:10
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ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:10
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Dr_willisFlash 9 just came out a few weeks ago.09:10
Dr_willisits in beta testing.09:10
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dennisterzorglu: i tried the scale addition u mentioned, but it's for video scaling and my problem is with audio09:11
Tm_TDr_willis: You mean flash 9 _beta_ came out, actual release haven't been yet.09:11
Tm_TAnd yes, there's big difference.09:11
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steveireHey, Is there a keyboard binding to switch tabs in Konsole?09:13
Dr_willissteveire,  i looked for that the other day - and didetn seem to find one.09:14
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nacerhi hi09:14
hollywoodbdennister: avisynth.dll isn't in 'essential' or 'all' codec packs from mplayerhq.hu09:14
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Dr_willisim so used to using alt-# under xchat09:14
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steveireDr_willis: Pity. It would be very useful.09:14
Dr_willisthe #kde guys may know. ive looked - i may of overlooked it.09:15
hollywoodbdennister: http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/2006-June/061232.html09:15
dennisterok, if avisynth isn't essential, why is my tuner saying it is/can't find it09:16
Dr_williscould be some oddball codec09:16
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hollywoodbdennister: https://www.zarb.org/pipermail/plf-discuss-ubuntu/2006-October/000310.html09:18
hollywoodbdennister: it sounds like the version of mplayer in the ubuntu repos is outdated09:18
dennisterit seems thatway, 'oddball' as i said, the mplayer i installed with edgy the other day had working sound for tuner...this install's sound doesn't work09:18
Dr_willissteveire,  told ya they would know. :)09:19
Dr_williswhat odd bindings to use...09:19
Dr_willisthe only avisynth i can find is in --> .transgaming/c_drive/windows/system32/avisynth.dll09:19
Dr_willisno idea what/how it got there. :)09:19
zeeoi don't think the prob i'm having with sound is flash cuz if the song is still paying on pandora09:19
zeeothe sound from kmess09:20
zeeocan't play09:20
zeeoat all09:20
zeeotill the song is done09:20
zeeoso its allmost like its not runing in full deplex or some crap09:20
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zeeolike i can't play more then one sonud at a time09:20
Dr_williszeeo,  we are going to remove your enter key....09:20
Dr_willis:)09:20
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zeeo:O sorry its a habit09:20
Dr_williszeeo,  thats a common description of an arts/esd/alsa/oss/soundserver issue.09:21
manchickenIs there a way to apt-get source, build the source, and then install it without hosing your dpkg database?09:21
Dr_willisIm listenign to the site now.   :) but i have a Creative Audigy Card. what sound card do you have zeeo ?09:21
dennisterok, so its a bug with edgy...i'm going to try and reinstall it, as it worked with my edgy installation before this one09:21
zeeoi'm runing a laptop09:21
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zeeoits a dell inspiron 120009:22
manchickenCan you actually "jam" to Kenny G?09:22
Dr_willis:)09:22
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zeeohow can i found out what card its runing09:22
dennisterbback soon09:22
Dr_willisgoogle   the ubuntu/kubuntu wiki/forums/laptop area zeeo  perhaps otehrs have similer sound issues.09:22
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zeeok09:23
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Dr_willisthat site is streaming very well  :) considreing how lagged/torrent download-loaded i am.09:25
Dr_willis:)09:25
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Dr_willisheh - it just hung on me zeeo09:28
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Dr_willisgot a sound loop going da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.....09:28
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manchickenAnybody?09:29
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mentokdoes anyone know about getting a SoundBlaster X-Fi sound card running in Edgy?09:30
Dr_willismentok,  last i looked that card was not supported under linux yet.09:30
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Dr_willisthat was about 2 mo ago. It may of changed by now.09:31
mentokDr_willis: hmm, any workarounds?09:31
Dr_williswait for a driver. :)09:31
Th3_Cr0up13Rhey guys how do you shutdown processes on ubuntu09:31
mentokDr_willis:  dang :(09:31
mentokDr_willis:  thanks09:31
Th3_Cr0up13Rhow do i shutdown startup processes?09:31
Dr_willisdo some googling see if the stuff is even being worked on. I guess.09:31
mentokDr_willis: that sounds like a good idea09:32
hollywoodbTh3_Cr0up13R: KMenu -> System Settings -> Advanced -> Services09:32
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Dr_willismentok,  its possible it may be comming out soon, or being worked on.. i put off gettting one for a few months  due to the linux not supported yet issue. :)09:32
Dr_willisMy audigy2zs is doing very well - :) and its a lot cheaper now.09:32
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mentokDr_willis: yeah, I would have except I've needed midi quick, and I have a dual boot09:32
Th3_Cr0up13Rhollywoodb: there is no advanced on my system settings09:33
hollywoodbTh3_Cr0up13R: yes there is09:33
hollywoodbTh3_Cr0up13R: at the top09:33
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mentokDr_willis: of course they didnt' seem to have any audigy's at best buy09:33
Dr_willisive yet to ever have anything that actually hooked to the midi port. :)09:33
mentokDr_willis: ah09:33
mentokDr_willis: I got a midi controller recently, that thing is awesome09:33
Dr_willismentok,  ive basicially given up on bestbuy.. Ive been paying attention to their prices.. and.. well they really (@&!@&@ you over if you are not carefull.09:33
Dr_willisBUt they do have a good return policy :)09:34
dany21hello... does anybody use gestures within KDE? they are generally working... but i have one problem: i cant sent [alt] [f4]  for closing a prog... the gesture gets recognised - but i get no action... anybody tried before?09:34
mentokDr_willis: I was surprised because the card I got would have cost more on newegg than at best buy09:34
Th3_Cr0up13Rhollywoodb: no there isnt is like the last file and its grey cannot really make it out but i found it09:34
mentokDr_willis: usually its the other wat around09:34
Dr_willismentok,  you got lucky then.. or they screwed up. :)09:34
mentokhehe09:34
mentokyeah09:34
Dr_willisTheir very well 'educated' clerk tagged the wrong box. :)09:34
mentokDr_willis: hehe, so true09:35
Dr_willisor he tagged it wrongly for a friend...09:35
Th3_Cr0up13Rhollywoodb: do i coose the halt option09:35
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Th3_Cr0up13Rwhich of the options is the not run option09:35
mentokdefiintley09:35
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Dr_willisI got a laptop from BB once, and a docking bay.. and they failed to notice the bay on the cart.. and let me walk out with it. :)09:35
mentokwow09:35
Dr_willisi dident even notice till 4 mo later on the reciete.09:35
mentokcrazy09:35
Dr_willissaved me $200, heh09:35
mentokthats sweet09:36
mentokthey gouge you for so much might as well have a freebie once in a while09:36
hollywoodbTh3_Cr0up13R: use 'Service Services' , not 'Service Manager'09:36
hollywoodbTh3_Cr0up13R: 'System Services' I meant09:36
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Dr_willisthen i took the laptop back (it broke) got a refund , they charged me 10% restocking fee..   and i sold the docking bay to a guy. :)09:36
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Dr_willisnet cost to me.. renting a laptop for 6Mo.. = $10009:36
mentokha!09:37
mentokawesome09:37
mentokof course the stupid restocking fee is always annoying09:37
Dr_willisI had taken the laptop back 4 times...09:37
mentokits not like their clerks are too busy doing other things09:37
mentokreally?09:37
Dr_willisthe case had an issue where the thing kept cracking.09:37
mentokoh09:38
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mentokthat sounds like an issue for the manuf.09:38
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Dr_willisyea - some sort of manafacyture defect on the first run of the laptop09:39
Dr_willisgot sick of it.. got a diffrent laptop. then hated it. they had none the 'same or better' as my first one.. so i said *#&@&^@ you all.. give me my $$ back09:39
Dr_willisI did falter and got a 2nd laptop form them a year ago.. on sale.. display model.. with $250 rebate from them... then i managed to get a $200 rebate from HP. :P09:39
Dr_willisaparently the HP rebate was not supposed to  be at the same time the BB rebate was scheduled.. but i got it on the 2 days they overlapped.09:39
Dr_willisits a good little linux laptop now.09:39
mentoksweet09:40
mentokthats luck09:40
Dr_willisyep.. win some . lose some.09:40
mentokdefinitley09:40
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Dr_willislike the $200 monitor that blows up the day after the warrenty expires.09:41
Dr_willis:)09:41
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mentokyeah09:41
mentokmurphey's law is very accurate09:41
unix_infidelDr_willis: you mean the turion you bought?09:41
mentokstrangely so09:41
unix_infidelor is this ia nother one?09:42
Dr_willisyea - turion09:42
unix_infidelhah, you got a turion for 50 bucks?09:42
Dr_willissince the bios update.. its been a solid linux box.  even got wireless going.09:42
Dr_willisit came out to be like $300 i think total.. i learned to get the extenede warrenty09:42
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Dr_willis:)09:42
mentokwhich linux?09:42
Lars_GGreetings all09:42
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Dr_willisi should of kept that docking bay from the first laptop. it would work with this one.09:43
Dr_willisits running Kubuntu now.09:43
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Lars_GQuestion, what package does one need for giving one the possibility of decoding mp3 audio in k3b to burn to an audio cd?09:43
mentokawesome09:43
hollywoodbha! I was going to give the WoW 10-day trial a shot under Cedega... 2.86GB download... nothx09:43
Dr_willisthe only thing i cant get going on it yet. is the media reader slots.. not sure what the deal is.09:43
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unix_infidelyea, i'm seriously considering buying an other laptop but one of those 300 dollar sempron or compaqs dont jive very well.09:43
unix_infideli'd rather buy like an older pM ultraporable off ebay for ~30009:43
Dr_willisLars_G,  that is answered in the KUBUNTU FAQ. :)   i saw it just yesterday there.09:43
mentokI've had some problems with those also09:43
Lars_GDr_willis: I am sorry then :)09:44
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unix_infideland add another GiG of rAM09:44
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hollywoodbunix_infidel: I've got a dell Penium M 1.8 + 1GB RAM, intel gfx & 14.1" LCD for around $400 + shipping... and now they have Turion notebooks for $600 or better09:44
youserguysi need some serious help09:44
Dr_willisproblem gets to be -  the older one may die at any time.. then what... a new one at least you can return it...09:44
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youser"operatingsystem not found"09:44
unix_infidelhollywoodb: which model?09:44
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youseri woke up this morning and mydesktop looked fine but it couldnt find any apps or files09:44
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unix_infidelhollywoodb: you can get new dell dual core's for 600 fully speced.09:45
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yousersoi restarted and got oprating system not found09:45
hollywoodbunix_infidel: mine is an Inspiron B130, but you can't configure it with my hardware via dell's website... coupon code via techbargains.com09:45
Lars_GDr_willis: You are correct. I am sorry for bringing up the question without perusing the FAQ first.09:45
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unix_infidelhollywoodb: honestly, i've had a really good run with IBM's09:45
hollywoodbunix_infidel: I like IBM/Lenovo, but I can't afford it ;)09:45
unix_infideli wouldnt consider buying an old dell...09:45
Dr_willisLars_G,  i just happened to rember its there. :)09:45
unix_infidelespecially out of CC warranty.09:46
vandenoeverdell latitude x1?09:46
Dr_willisLars_G,   plus it coveres other programs.09:46
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hollywoodbunix_infidel: all the hardware on this Inspiron is supported under linux, though I haven't tested the modem09:46
Lars_GAh I need the multiverse it seems09:46
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Dr_willisLars_G,  i cant even tell you what other things the faq covers.. but i rember that. heh09:46
unix_infidelhollywoodb: right, but can it survive a drop to the floor?09:46
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lovelyalsalamo 3alaykom09:46
hollywoodbunix_infidel: dunno... I'm not willing to test it at the moment ;)09:47
lovelyhi every body09:47
yousercan anyone help me09:47
lovelyhellow09:47
youserit seems i cant even reinstall dapper09:47
unix_infidelhollywoodb: heh, i just did like 15 minutes ago with an IBM09:47
Lars_Gunix_infidel: Myself I've had good luck with Toshiba machines while I used pc laptops.09:47
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hollywoodbunix_infidel: I throw it in my backpack and occasionally bump it into things that way, but that's a bit of a different kind of contact09:47
unix_infideli'd like a tablet PC but i couldnt see it being viable at all.09:47
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youser*cries09:49
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ttoineis tonio somewhere on irc this evening ?09:53
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stodgeI can't use the NVIDIA driver:   Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver!09:58
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stodgeDo I need to install all updates in Edgy before it will work?09:58
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stodgeI tried this:       sudo nvidia-glx-config enable09:59
joe3kstodge: try sudo modprobe nvidia09:59
stodgeNot loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf09:59
joe3khm no idea what does have modprobe to do with xorg.conf :)10:00
Lars_Gstodge: fix youf config, you surely are using the "nv" driver instead of "nvidia"10:00
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joe3kstodge: take a look into xorg.conf whether you have "Driver" nvidia10:00
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stodgeI thought that was configured by the  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable10:00
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joe3kstodge: i think it should have been, but it can't hurt to check it ;-)10:01
stodgeOk that may have been the problem10:01
stodgeI'll just restart X - thanks for your help!10:01
joe3kok10:02
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eilker!dyndns > eilker10:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dyndns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi10:03
walladoes anyone know a program that i can use for copying album art onto my ipod without using gtkpod?10:03
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eilkerwhat is the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu-server ?  is the difference only lamp server ?10:04
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hollywoodbeilker: does ubuntu-server include ubuntu-desktop?10:07
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eilkerhollywoodb: i have no idea...10:08
mike__Hi folks - X won't start for me now - "no devices detected"10:08
skipjackhello has here someone an idea what I must do when I have an Intranet domain (thochguertel.de) and the Internet domain thochguertel.de .. so and when I ping thochguertel.de that I ping out of the Intranet (that I get the Internet IP of this domain) and so that for all other subdomaisn who not registered in bind9 ?10:08
hollywoodbeilker: me either, but I'm guessing it doesn't, which is a pretty big difference ;)10:08
eilkerhollywoodb: :))10:08
wildchildwhat packages do I have to install for compyling?10:08
hollywoodbwildchild: build-essential10:08
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mike__BusId is PCI:0:5:010:09
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Shaddarhi ... anyone knows how to change the symbol/image/icon of firefox in the upper left corner ?10:10
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stodgeI'll reboot maybe that will help10:10
aimtrainerhi! Im running edgy on a samsng x11 and my wlan card ipw3945 is detected now (eth1) after having installed the restricted modules. But I cant make it work. knetworkmanager doesnt even find it10:11
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shulmanhi all -- I'm having trouble with Firefox 2.0 on Edgy closing out constantly, mostly due to flash. I've tried applying the flash fix to the firefoxrc file without any success. Is there anything else that I should be doing to get flash to work properly?10:14
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stodgeThat was damn - Kubuntu configured the wrong PCI address in xorg.conf for my card10:14
stodge(damn = dumb)10:15
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hollywoodbshulman: which flash version are you using?10:17
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shulmanhollywoodb: checking now... I installed the latest version off of apt-get10:19
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vranikxhello all, i have problem with playing system sounds in kubuntu, sound in xmms or mplayer are fine, what i must do for correct this error?10:20
shulmanhollywoodb: flashplayer-mozilla is at version 6.0.72-0.210:21
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hollywoodbshulman: try enabling seveas repo and there you can find update to flash 9 beta... see if that helps resolve the issue10:22
hollywoodb!seveas | shulman10:22
ubotushulman: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages10:22
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vieirahey need help config mldonkey anyone!?10:22
shulmanhollywoodb: thanks... I'll look into it right now10:22
hollywoodbshulman: once you get that repo going, 'apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree'10:23
vieirahollywoodb: hi dude, can u give me some tips config mldonkey?10:23
hollywoodbvieira: nope. I don't use any P2P apps except the occasional torrent10:23
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shulmanhollywoodb: do repositories exist for edgy eft? the page you sent me to only has repos listed for dapper10:24
vieirahollywoodb: oki thnks10:24
hollywoodbshulman: yep... just change 'dapper' to 'edgy'10:24
hollywoodbshulman: something like: deb http://seveas.imbrandon.com/ edgy-seveas all10:24
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vieirahollywoodb: just simple can put any p2p client working in kubuntu10:25
vieirahollywoodb: i think have to get back to windows on desktop to use p2p client and only use kubuntu on my lapto10:26
denver1anyone from aust10:26
vieirap10:26
hollywoodbvieira: all you have to to for torrent is forward ports 6881-6999 -> your internal IP.  no idea about the rest of p2p clients10:27
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vieirahollywoodb: it's very strange cause every one says to me that it's fine on them, but simple can't pu it work10:27
hollywoodbvieira: no idea10:27
vieirahollywoodb: i've done that. i thinks it's a router problem with linux10:28
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vieirahollywoodb: ok dude thnks any way10:28
hollywoodbvieira: doubt it, I've never had any issues with my router or linux10:28
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vieirahollywoodb: can't tell simple use the same client in the same network and torrent, windows ddl fine in linux 0.0kb10:29
vieirahollywoodb: i'm tired :(10:29
vieirahollywoodb: 3 days trying to solve it10:29
shulmanhollywoodb: it's still freezing up firefox10:29
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rojikaruI need more help, on how to set up my sound.10:31
rojikaruaudio10:31
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vieira_hollywoodb: any one that u now that uses p2p clients?10:32
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vieira_hollywoodb: that can help me out of course10:32
hollywoodbvieira_: see if there's a p2p-related channel10:33
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hollywoodbshulman: did you copy over your ~/.mozilla from a previous installation or upgrade ?10:34
lorenzo_hello10:34
vieira_hollywoodb: oki10:35
shulmanhollywoodb: I just upgraded from dapper, and firefox got upgraded10:35
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hollywoodbshulman: try move your ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla.backup or something and try it, perhaps there's something in your firefox profile that's causing issue... also, if you have flash-player-nonfree AND flashplayer-mozilla, remove flashplayer-mozilla and restart firefox... that's about all I can think of10:36
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shulmanhollywoodb: One of the internet forums I was going through just mentioned this might be related to the nvidia kernel that I was using on my previous version. I'm going to try upgrading it10:37
wallahas anyone had any problems with an ipod not playing files that were transfered using amarok?10:37
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uri3000alright then, i'm having a bit of trouble here. occasionally, in kde, i have to move my mouse pointer to the side of things to be able to click them. i don't really know how to describe it. i can't move my mouse pointer to the left edge of my screen, and it will go completely off of the right side.10:42
intelikeyi've got something hosed.... i just installed ubuntu and kde and was test running things before i turn it over to it's owner... the three user accounts will use different desktops gnome kde and blackbox   the first run went ok but the second login for bb ; X tripped out and i wanted to test grub settings anyway so i rebooted.  now all i can get for any user is an rxvt terminal   setting the session does nothing to affect t10:43
denver1has anyone done an apt-get dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy and had any problems?10:43
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intelikeyyes denver1 many10:43
denver1so a clean install is best?10:43
intelikeybest.... meeh  better.10:44
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intelikeyanyone on gdm problem ?10:44
hollywoodbintelikey: I think its safe to assume that most of #kubuntu is using kdm10:45
uri3000does anyone have any idea what my problem is?  i originally installed ubuntu, and then installed kubuntu-desktop. this problem didn't happen until i installed kubuntu-desktop10:45
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uri3000it sometimes happens in gnome, too10:45
uri3000if you need more information or don't understand what i'm trying to say or missed my first message, please tell me10:47
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intelikeyhollywoodb   i try to not assume too much10:47
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intelikeybut xdm does the same thing....10:47
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uri3000what the heck, my mouse works normally now.10:48
Tateris there anyway to tell how big a partition is on a drive and what filesystem type it is without mounting it10:49
hollywoodbintelikey: when X "tripped out" and you rebooted, how did you reboot?10:49
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intelikeyinit 110:49
intelikeyerrr 610:49
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hollywoodbTater: sudo parted /dev/hda print all  (assuming /dev/hda is the disk you want info on)10:50
Taterhollywoodb, sweet thanks10:50
uri3000and now for my next problem: sound doesn't work properly in kde. i think it's the mixer but I don't know how to fix it. in gnome, using alsaplayer, i can hear sound perfectly, like from flash videos and whatnot, but in kde, the only sound i can hear is the system startup sound.10:50
Ace2016disable arts?10:50
Acc\DenyHello can someone plz check if http://archives.linmodems.org/ really works? I ask it to search for modem and it says nothing...10:51
uri3000i remember trying that in debian... how does one do that again?10:51
Ace2016kcontrol > sound & multimedia > Sound System10:52
uri3000thank you, i'll try that10:52
Ace2016and uncheck "Enable the sound system"10:52
hollywoodbAcc\Deny: no matter what I put it says no results found10:52
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Taterhollywoodb, well it just says it can't detect the filesystem on the partitions I'm curious about :P10:52
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kubuntuI have a slight issue10:53
hollywoodbTater: using LVM? if not, parted should detect it if they are valid partitions10:53
uri3000ah! thank you, Ace2016, you rock10:53
Ace2016np10:53
Taterhollywoodb, what I'm trying to do is mount the root partition of the hdd from my laptop on my deskktop pc so I can pull some files from it and install edgy then slap it back in the laptop10:53
kubuntuHow do I reset my keyboard?10:53
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Taterhollywoodb, Maybe the drive is toast I dunno, it had dapper drake default install on it10:53
Acc\Denyhollywoodb: thank you!10:53
Acc\Denykubuntu: you are brave to call it a SLIGHT issue :)10:54
Ace2016uri3000: you could also try setting the "Auto suspend if idle after:" to 1 second so that when an arts app stops using alsa other apps can use it10:54
kubuntuI'm a brave kinda dude10:54
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uri3000Ace2016: what advantage would that have over just disabling it altogether?10:55
kubuntuI pressed a multimedia key on the Keyboard and now I can't alt+tab or Alt+space :(10:55
kubuntuSooo How can I reset10:55
Taterhollywoodb, I got the boot partition to mount on that drive but I can't mount the root partition10:56
Taterno matter what I toss in the fstab10:56
hollywoodbTater: is it using LVM ?10:56
intelikeyok using kdm is even worse.  i don't get anythin but  an error message and back to the xlogin     message 'cannot open theme /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu10:56
Acc\DenyIf linux can't find a driver for a device, does it still create a device file for it in /dev?10:56
Taterhollywoodb, I have no idea what LVM is10:56
intelikeyat least with gdm the user had an input method....10:57
Ace2016uri3000: i think some apps require arts for sound output, if you don't use any then there is no need for the sound system to be running10:57
intelikeyAcc\Deny generally speaking no.10:57
hollywoodbTater: Logical Volume Management, you can string drives together using one or multiple partitions with it... it doesn't behave like a normal partition10:57
uri3000Ace2016: ah, okay. i'll see how that works10:57
kubuntuHow can I check what my keys are mapped to?10:57
intelikeyscankeys ?10:57
Taterhollywoodb, I doubt LVM is enabled then as it was the only drive in my laptop10:58
kubuntuOh and Amarok went nuts and I had to kill it10:58
kubuntuintelikey: moi?10:58
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Taterhollywoodb, there isn't even a cd drive or floppy drive in that laptop just the hdd10:58
intelikeyja10:58
hollywoodbTater: maybe that partition is shot then, hard to say... but some distros (like Fedora Core) set up LVM as default no matter what10:58
Acc\Denyok what is the name of hardware detection utility/daemon/tool in ubuntu?10:59
Taterhollywoodb, It had kubuntu dapper installed on it10:59
Taterhollywoodb, and everytime I try to mount it I get a must specify filesystem error10:59
kubuntuintelikey: Do I have to install it10:59
Taterhollywoodb, is there anyway to try to repair the partition10:59
kubuntuI think it's just my alt key that's gone10:59
hollywoodbTater: well if parted says its an unknown type, that's bad. if you KNOW what type it is you could attempt to run fsck on it10:59
TaterI'm 99 percent sure its reiserfs11:00
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icheynehas anyone got an opinion on SpinRite? Is it worth getting?11:00
intelikeykubuntu no i gave the wrong name... let me check.11:00
intelikeygetkeycodes11:01
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kubuntuintelikey: Oh wait :-P I have to do this on a tty console?11:01
intelikeymmmm terminal might work also...11:02
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kubuntuintelikey: I'm good now :)11:04
compu73rg33kI like ubuntu, but my family wants to try linux and I think KDE would be a better GUI for them...does kubuntu run well?11:04
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kubuntuThe Windows key sticks11:04
compu73rg33kdoing the Windows -> Linux switch :)11:04
klerfaytcompu73rg33k: kubuntu is same as ubuntu11:04
kubuntucompu73rg33k: You can install both11:04
compu73rg33kklerfayt: yeah but it's KDE instead of gnome11:05
kubuntuIt's the same but I think that Kubuntu is a bit more persuasive if they are power users and Ubuntu is good if they like simplicity11:05
kubuntucompu73rg33k: IMHO11:05
compu73rg33kHmm they're not power users, but I think KDE is more user friendly to people used to windows11:05
kubuntuIt is11:05
kubuntunot to discount Gnome it's very easy once you spend a day with them11:06
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compu73rg33kyeah I like gnome but sometimes i feel it's over simplified11:06
Ace2016kubuntu is like ubuntu but with kde instead of gnome and everyone knows that kde is better so you should use kubuntu :)11:06
kubuntuI would say to go with the one you are most comfortble with11:06
compu73rg33kI'm using Gnome right now and I love it11:06
kubuntucompu73rg33k: Granted this help Chan might be more friendly :)11:06
ElectrolyteI'm thinking of trying it.11:06
compu73rg33khehe Ace2016 I say they're both great :)11:06
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kubuntuThey are. Different interfaces to the same good gooey core :)11:07
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kubuntucompu73rg33k: Tell you what. Download the Kubuntu Live CD and give it a whirl11:07
compu73rg33kyeah I already downlaoded it :)11:07
ElectrolyteI'm about to do that with the Ubuntu CD :P11:07
compu73rg33kjust need to finish bakcing up their e-mails which I'm'a go do and then install Windwos (For my brother & his faggot games) and then installing Kubuntu for my parents11:08
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compu73rg33kKubuntu doens't have any problems with dual booting right?11:08
LjL!language | compu73rg33k11:08
ubotucompu73rg33k: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.11:08
LjLUbotu, please tell compu73rg33k about dualboot11:08
Acc\DenyIn Ubuntu how do I unplug/eject a USB device? like in windows u had to right click on the icon in the bottom right corner of system tray....?11:08
kubuntuAcc\Deny: Is it on the desktop?11:08
compu73rg33kyeah Mine shows up on my desktop Acc\Deny11:09
Ace2016Acc\Deny: kde has safely remove and if you plug it in it shows up on the desktop, very slick11:09
compu73rg33kubotu: dualboot ?11:09
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about dualboot ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:09
Ace2016when its on the desktop you can right click and do safely remove11:09
compu73rg33kubotu: dualboot11:09
ubotuDual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)11:09
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kubuntuWhat do I need to install to get MusicBrainz To work?11:11
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zeeohey i need a good repositorie list can some one help me out with that11:11
ElectrolyteCan you actually use GNome on Kubuntu?11:11
kubuntu!repos11:12
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu11:12
kubuntuElectrolyte: Sure11:12
ElectrolyteI'll try the Live CD first :)11:12
Acc\Denykubuntu: Ace2016: No idea. I am about to fiddle with a device that I am SURE linux will not recognise... it a microcontoller...11:12
kubuntusudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop11:12
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zeeoi'm looking for more repositorie11:12
ElectrolyteI want to see how GNome is - if I like it, I'll probably just install Ubuntu.11:12
zeeonot just how to enable them11:12
Acc\Denyjust wondering how eject is implemented in linux so i dont blow this device....11:12
kubuntu!easysource11:12
ubotusource-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic11:12
zeeothx11:12
shello. i need some help please. I want to copy a dvd to another dvd but i don't know how to do this in kubuntu11:13
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Ace2016Acc\Deny: oh i thought you said usb stick11:13
kubuntus: try k3b11:13
kubuntuAcc\Deny: How are you going to be using it?11:13
kubuntuAs a device or on the file system?11:14
zeeoseems that http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic don't have 6.10 yet11:14
kubuntuzeeo: I'm fairly certain if you change the word dapper to edgy in whatever you get out it will work11:14
zeeok11:15
buzzyragazzi ora sembrea che vada....bah11:15
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Acc\Denykubuntu: No idea yet, its suppose to be a microcontoller or modem device inside this fixed wireless terminal for internet access...11:16
kubuntuWhee D-Bus is out :)11:16
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arriespola11:16
kubuntuAcc\Deny: Well as long as you don't pipe in something crazy into the /dev device I think you should be good11:16
kubuntuarriesp: ola11:16
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Bubba_Gumphow do I install themes downloaded from KDE-look.org?11:17
kubuntuBubba_Gump: It normally has instructions in it11:18
shulmanI just tried reinstalling the nvidia kernel onto my system and managed to hose it so X won't start.  What do I need to do to reinstall it?11:18
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Bubba_Gumpkubuntu: i've downloaded three, and all hold no instructions within them11:19
kubuntuBubba_Gump: Hmm WHich three?11:19
kubuntuGimmie the URLs11:19
Bubba_Gumpk11:19
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troydoes anyone know if there are any python 2.5 packages for edgy anyplace?11:20
Bubba_Gumphttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=3394411:20
Bubba_Gumphttp://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=2931411:20
troynevermind, found them :)11:21
Bubba_Gumpi forget the other one11:21
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kubuntunstallation:11:22
kubuntu 1) Unpack the archive.11:22
kubuntu 2) Click on the file "SmoothGray.kth" from Konqueror.11:22
kubuntuThat doesn't work I'll assume :)11:22
Bubba_Gumpkubuntu: nope :)11:23
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peteIt's times like these people get lonely..11:27
LeeJunFanbye11:27
LeeJunFan:)11:27
Bubba_Gumpkubuntu: ooh i need deKorator :)11:27
Admiral_Chicago_netsplit11:27
kubuntuah Ok :)11:27
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kubuntuHELLO Hello hello hel....11:32
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mentokhi11:35
ch1x0rHello11:35
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arriespxao11:37
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mentok!ubotu ?11:38
mentok!ubotu you listening?11:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about you listening? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi11:39
mentokhehe11:39
mentok :)11:39
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xwolf-why the heck konqueror won't list all of the directories in the root folder (/) ?11:39
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manchickenAnybody know how to get amarok to work with libmtp and MTP devices?11:41
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nu1o0phello. how can i make an option (view->viewmode->text) persistant between current folder change ?11:43
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nu1o0p this setting keeps resetting to the default each time i navigate on a folder.... in konqueror / kubuntu11:44
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nu1o0pguys on kde said kubuntu doesn't have the standard set of menu ("Save view per folder", by example, is not there in kubuntu)11:45
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joe3knu1o0p: have you tried settings -> save profile?11:47
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joe3kgn11:48
__mikemDoes anyone know about any mathmatical programs I could use to graph equasions that are not functions eg, sin(x)=e^cos(y)11:49
kubuntujoe3k: Night11:49
kubuntu__mikem: try kplot11:49
kubuntu!info kplot11:50
ubotuPackage kplot does not exist in any distro I know11:50
kubuntuLiar :-)11:50
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__mikemkubuntu, you mean kmplot, that is indeed a graphing program, but it will not graph statements unless they can be solved for one variable11:50
kubuntuAh11:51
__mikemI want a program that can graph equasions that are NOT solved for one variable11:51
kubuntuUmm Mathematica?11:51
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__mikemI rather not spend 1200 dollars11:51
steveireHere's a question. In the case of vimrc, bashrc etc, what does the rc mean?11:51
kubuntuOctplot?11:51
__mikemNEver heard of it11:52
kubuntusteveire: Resource Configuration11:52
steveirekubuntu: cheers11:52
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youserhey guys i was wondering if xorg should be running if imnot using beryl or compiz?11:54
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apol!info kalgebra11:55
ubotukalgebra: calculator based on MathML language. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 444 kB11:55
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xwolf-how do i get konqueror to list all the folders in /?11:58
Dr_willis!hidden11:58
ubotuKubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles11:58
klerfaythow to take screenshot of login screen11:58
Dr_willisor put / in the address bar?11:58
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xwolf-thank you, Dr_willis12:01
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manchickenAnybody?12:01
Dr_willismanchicken,  huh?12:02
manchickenI'm trying to get amarok to work with libmtp.12:02
Dr_willisnever heard of libmtp :)12:02
manchickenThere's a very klugy way described if you google it, but it's only 32-bit.12:02
manchickenIt lets amarok manage music on devices like Creative Zen Vision.12:02
Dr_williswhats it supposed to do?12:02
manchickenI just told you ^_^12:03
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Dr_willisthats why ive never heard of it i guess. :)12:03
manchickenI suppose so.12:04
manchickenI suppose it's just not built in...12:04
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manchickenI tried to build it in, and I can get it working with libmtp.. but then it won't let me use postgresql.12:04
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santyago !      !!?!?!12:05
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nagyvsantyago: according to your name you should prefer also latin,12:05
youseranyone  know what hald-add-on storage is?12:06
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klerfaytsantyago speaks russian12:06
youserwhen my system monitor: processes update every few seconds only some processes are there and sometimes lots r there and sometimes none12:07
nagyv!ru12:07
ubotuPozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help12:07
hollywoodb!ru | santyago12:07
ubotusantyago: Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help12:07
youserbut there used to be a lot of themin there constantly12:07
nagyvyouser: know idea, but probably it is not kde specific, so it can help that #ubuntu could also help (anyway, I'm not an expert)12:08
nagyvyouser: know=no (sorry)12:08
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santyagothank12:08
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bkudriahow do i prevent kubuntu from mounting stuff in /media? i have my own autofs setup...12:09
nagyvbkudria: I think that you should play with udev (or just /etc/udev)12:11
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