[12:12] <Linux_Galore> PsiKloPx: but in the case of kubuntu there is a universal one you can use
[12:13] <joe3k> thingy: and http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31077 is my 66-saa7134-myir.rules
[12:13] <joe3k> thingy: i tried more alternatives, hence the comment there
[12:14] <PsiKloPx> I used http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/12B83718.gpg and it seemed to take care of the problem
[12:14] <joe3k> thingy: and lastly http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31078/ is udevinfo output; as i said if i mess up the rule it complains, so it should "see" the rule
[12:15] <thingy> joe3k: umm googling brought up this...which seems to have a rule already with instructions on how to use it: http://www.linuxtv.org/v4lwiki/index.php/Generic_SAA7134_Card_Installation
[12:15] <thingy> joe3k: am just comparing your one with it
[12:15] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: still empty
[12:16] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: might be a region support problem
[12:16] <joe3k> thingy: hm thnx, i didn't google on generic saa7134 stuff, since i've actually no problems with saa7134 itself
[12:16] <joe3k> thingy: they're filtering on vendoer, but if i got it right name should do as well
[12:17] <thingy> joe3k: yep was thinking that filtering should work either way
[12:17] <thingy> oh no its intelikey! :-)
[12:18] <joe3k> thingy: one more, they're filtering on class/input/event, no /class/input/input, but i think i've tried that one already as well
[12:18] <intelikey> where ?
[12:18] <Linux_Galore> klerfayt: ask in #kde
[12:18] <joe3k> intelikey: you're surely udev guru, aren't you :)
[12:19] <intelikey> i don't even like udev.
[12:19] <intelikey> what you need joe3k ?
[12:19] <sickd> hello
[12:19] <joe3k> so let it be, i'm trying to get that thing create one symlink for my ir
[12:19] <sickd> i upgraded to edgy
[12:19] <sickd> and the keyboard doesn't work
[12:20] <sickd> on XD
[12:20] <sickd> on X
[12:20] <sickd> kdm also
[12:20] <sickd> any idea?
[12:20] <intelikey> joe3k ir ?
[12:20] <joe3k> intelikey: yep
[12:20] <thingy> joe3k: btw, did you try "input*" ?
[12:20] <smaggard> hello ppl :D
[12:21] <sickd> why the keyboard doesn't work?
[12:21] <intelikey> ir ???  ingnorant russan ?
[12:21] <sickd> Xorg log says all ok
[12:21] <intelikey> :)
[12:21] <joe3k> thingy: i tried almost everything :) even BUS=="pci" and DRIVER=="saa7134"
[12:21] <sickd> kdm log too
[12:21] <thingy> sickd: usb keyb? or ps2
[12:21] <joe3k> intelikey: infrared
[12:21] <intelikey> joe3k ir what ?
[12:21] <sickd> thingy: a laptop keyboard
[12:21] <joe3k> intelikey: remote?
[12:21] <sickd> thingy: was working ok with dapper
[12:21] <thingy> sickd: whats the laptop make/model please
[12:22] <sickd> but now
[12:22] <sickd> :S
[12:22] <intelikey> ir com   or   ir lp ?
[12:22] <sickd> wait
[12:22] <joe3k> intelikey: ir saa7134 via tuner card
[12:22] <intelikey> ok.  let me look around now.
[12:22] <joe3k> intelikey: but shouldn't actually matter, i'm trying to create symlink for /dev/input/eventx node
[12:23] <sickd> thingy: how can i see the keyboard model?
[12:23] <sickd> thingy: it's a notebook
[12:23] <sickd> any command?
[12:24] <thingy> sickd: er i dont need keyboard model..just what the manufacturer of your laptop is and what the model number for the laptop is
[12:24] <joe3k> thingy: well it worked with the KERNEL and SYSFS{vendor} for /class/input/event3
[12:24] <campbch> has anyone used or know how to set up compiz?
[12:24] <thingy> joe3k: so...problem solved then?
[12:24] <intelikey> joe3k but the module loaded should make the device/s via a udev call.
[12:24] <joe3k> thingy: but the SYSFS{vendor} is actually not displayed in uderinfo for /class/input/event3
[12:24] <sickd> thingy: compaq presarion v2000
[12:25] <joe3k> intelikey: i want one more link
[12:25] <sickd> thingy: compaq presario v2000*
[12:25] <joe3k> intelikey: i have usb joystick and sometimes the order gets messed up
[12:25] <joe3k> intelikey: and if i instruct lircd to read the events from the wrong interface sometimes my mouse/joy stop working
[12:25] <intelikey> joe3k if all you want is an added symlink in /dev  just pitch a command in /etc/rc.local to create it at each boot time.
[12:26] <joe3k> well ok i want to go the smart way :)
[12:26] <pacman> Anyone know how to overclock my video card?  I've got a Radeon 9550
[12:26] <joe3k> this is ridiculous
[12:27] <intelikey> joe3k you know how to make the link don't you ?
[12:28] <joe3k> intelikey: i do :)
[12:28] <joe3k> but udev is kinda weird
[12:28] <joe3k> at least for me now :)
[12:28] <intelikey> yep.  and you can edit things in /dev and reboot and it's right back to default.
[12:28] <pacman> Anyone know how to overclock my video card?  I've got a Radeon 9550
[12:29] <joe3k> intelikey: that's the reason why i want the rule
[12:29] <intelikey> thats why i don't like udev.
[12:30] <intelikey> joe3k when things are working correctly what all ir* modules are loaded ?  lsmod
[12:30] <campbch> or XGL for that matter
[12:30] <sickd> any solution to my problem?
[12:30] <joe3k> intelikey: this is not the problem
[12:31] <joe3k> intelikey: in lircd you have to say which /dev/input/eventX you want to use as input
[12:31] <p_> hi
[12:31] <pacman> anyone?
[12:31] <joe3k> intelikey: and from time to time the order in /dev/input/eventX changes, so once my mouse is 2, ir 3, joy 4 the other time ir2, mouse 3, joy 4
[12:32] <minijerk> oi
[12:32] <minijerk> alguem do brasil aqui nessa parada?
[12:32] <joe3k> intelikey: and if i configure lircd to use /dev/input/event3 my mouse stops working if after some reboot the mouse gets event3
[12:32] <thor> hello all
[12:32] <joe3k> thingy: now it works
[12:32] <joe3k> thingy: seems i've chosen the wrong device :-E
[12:33] <joe3k> thingy: ie instead of /class/input/inputX i need /class/input/eventX
[12:33] <joe3k> don't know what's the real difference though
[12:33] <thor> i have a few things that i am trying to learn to install , the scripts all come back as failed, redhat-config not setup or something to this effect
[12:34] <thingy> joe3k: ah ok. great that it works. onto the next thing now! :-) make sure you backup the rules and setup info so you wont have to experiment again in the future
[12:34] <joe3k> thingy: thanks for your help
[12:35] <thingy> joe3k: google did the work...i just typed in the query
[12:35] <joe3k> anyway when does that pastebin stuff get deleted
[12:35] <joe3k> thingy: as usual ;-)
[12:35] <thingy> joe3k: usually after some inactive period...
[12:35] <joe3k> i try to google as well but i didn't google for saa7134 :)
[12:36] <joe3k> *tried*
[12:36] <thor> try ask.com , sometimes better results
[12:37] <thingy> thor: your statement about things youre trying to install didnt make sense....what were you trying to install ? describe the problem
[12:38] <thor> ok hold on and i will try again to explain better i hope
[12:38] <intelikey> well the installer is hanging after language selection.
[12:39] <intelikey> lts live installer just sitting there.......
[12:39] <Werdnum> Does OpenVPN not love edgy?
[12:39] <Werdnum> It installs fine for me, but no tun/tap adapter is created.
[12:39] <thor> the program im trying to install is called "pyvoice", it's for gyach , a chat client that has voice
[12:41] <intelikey> wow i took the disk out to wipe it off in case it was dusty    it's way hot.
[12:42] <joe3k> thor: and what does it complain about?
[12:42] <joe3k> intelikey: hotswap? ;-)
[12:42] <joe3k> intelikey: or p'n'n in a new dimension
[12:42] <thingy> thor: look at this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177081&highlight=pyvoice  to see how to install pyvoice + gyach easily in *ubuntu
[12:42] <joe3k> pnp
[12:44] <thor> ok , thanks , i will try that
[12:44] <intelikey> but the thing that really pisses me off is the box has windows xp on it....
[12:44] <pacman> Anyone know how to overclock my video card?  I've got a Radeon 9550
[12:45] <whtwolf> does anyone know which works better for laptops, edgy or dapper?
[12:45] <mzli> whtwolf: dapper is better.
[12:45] <intelikey> whtwolf edgy is the latest dapper is the LTS
[12:45] <intelikey> !lts
[12:45] <ubotu> LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.
[12:46] <glimmung> what do I do if kubuntu 6.10 live cd wont start X?
[12:46] <thingy> pacman: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91108&highlight=overclock+ati   <--- Youre on your own if it screws that hardware...nobody else is responsibile!
[12:46] <mzli> glimmung: it shouldnt.
[12:46] <glimmung> i know
[12:47] <glimmung> but it acts like it tries to start x, but then boots me back out to cmmandline, user cant startx, and no root password
[12:47] <glimmung> i checked disk for errors, its fine
[12:47] <mzli> glimmung: You boot it from livecd?
[12:47] <glimmung> yes, but live cd wont start x
[12:47] <glimmung> just commandline
[12:47] <joe3k> mzli: have you tried edgy on laptop?
[12:48] <intelikey> no there is not a root passwd  nor is there a passwd for ubuntu  the  default user  which is root jr.    sudo -i
[12:48] <whtwolf> odd question, should I install ubuntu the do a sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop or just install kubuntu from a cd?
[12:48] <joe3k> mzli: i'm considering to update my friend's to edgy
[12:48] <mzli> joe3k: No, never.
[12:48] <joe3k> mzli: so how do you know dapper is better for laptops
[12:48] <thingy> whtwolf: kubuntu from cd..why would you want to do it the first way?
[12:48] <thingy> whtwolf: unless you wanted both ubuntu(gnome) and kubuntu(kde) on the same box
[12:49] <mzli> joe3k: 1.edgy is not stable. 2. update are too much risky
[12:49] <intelikey> !sudo | glimmung
[12:49] <ubotu> glimmung: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[12:49] <whtwolf> I have edgy installed on my laptop right now and it seems to work ok but I did a dist-upgrade from dapper so that I could install easy ubuntu first
[12:49] <joe3k> mzli: hmm don't know edgy has at least newer stuff like kernel, alsa etc which is important for new laptops
[12:50] <joe3k> i had to hack into alsa support for the laptop's sc
[12:50] <joe3k> the lid switch is not working right, acpid flooding the logs, it can be better only with never kernel releases i think
[12:51] <mzli> joe3k: I've met some person installed edgy on laptop, then the computer are broken.
[12:51] <mzli> joe3k: of course, this will not happen to all laps.
[12:52] <whtwolf> edgy seem ok to me on a laptop but I cant get easy ubuntu to work with edgy :(
[12:52] <mzli> joe3k: but its more risky. No need to risky.
[12:52] <joe3k> well but it's true that edgy broke a lot of stuff
[12:54] <joe3k> bye
[12:55] <thor> im out guy's , thanks for the help thingy ;) much neede it was :))
[12:55] <whtwolf> is there a way to install the restricted w32 drivers other than using easy ubuntu?
[12:56] <intelikey> there's always a way whtwolf the question is   how hard would it be....
[12:56] <thingy> thor: np c ya
[12:57] <intelikey> and that i can't really answer.    w32 driver for what ?
[12:57] <thingy> whtwolf: you can get the svn version of easy ubuntu which seems to be a release candidate for edgy....i just read a couple of threads about it
[12:57] <thingy> whtwolf: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=273956&highlight=easyubuntu+edgy  <-- Paul.O's reply in the thread
[12:58] <thingy> intelikey: he means the win32 codecs
[12:58] <Authority_laptop> where is the keycode to keysym mapping done?  My right ALT key is mapped to something bizarre.
[12:59] <sorush20> hi I keep getting computer freezes could somsomeone help me firgure it out why? pentium 4 3.ghx 2.6gb ram sis motherboards kubuntu edgy kernel 386
[12:59] <intelikey> ah yeah there are other ways    i have installed them but never seen/used "easy ubuntu"
[01:00] <intelikey> sorush20 shouldn't you be using the 686 kernel ?
[01:00] <intelikey> i know that shouldn't hang it but....
[01:01] <thingy> Authority_laptop: launch kcontrol, select Regional & Accessibility, Xkb options tab...
[01:01] <glimmung> well its official, the kubuntu cd does not work for me, keeps giving the no screens found error
[01:01] <intelikey> did the hoary install disk not have gparted on it ?
[01:01] <thingy> glimmung: laptop/desktop?
[01:01] <glimmung> desktop
[01:01] <thingy> glimmung: manufacturer and model ?
[01:01] <glimmung> dell 4100
[01:01] <thingy> glimmung: graphics card in the desktop
[01:02] <klerfayt> Linux_Galore: I'm staring at default freshly installed kubuntu and you were right; keyboard layouts are there cause this time I installed with option "us english keyboard"
[01:02] <glimmung> i beleive its nvidia
[01:02] <thingy> glimmung: right they should work out of the box...do you know the model?
[01:02] <sorush20> well there isn't that kernel in the repositories
[01:02] <sorush20> intelikey:
[01:02] <glimmung> no I dont
[01:02] <glimmung> i know its 128 bit
[01:03] <intelikey> glimmung   grep -ie driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:03] <sorush20> is 480 Mbits/s 60Mbyte/s?
[01:03] <glimmung> nvidia
[01:03] <thingy> glimmung: also is this a dell dimensions 4100 ?
[01:03] <glimmung> yes it is
[01:04] <intelikey> glimmung hmmmm might try something generic there
[01:04] <glimmung> what do you mean?
[01:04] <intelikey> glimmung well if i can think of it i'll tell you.
[01:05] <glimmung> so is this an nvidia driver problem? or my model is not supported?
[01:05] <intelikey> that three letter thing that means what windows used to do for vidio.....
[01:05] <thingy> glimmung: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=268927&highlight=dell+dimension+4100   sigh..actually a lot of people are having problems with the dell dimension 4100 in the ubuntuforums...can you try installing via the alternate cd please
[01:05] <glimmung> vga?
[01:05] <glimmung> whats the alternate cd?
[01:05] <glimmung> the non live one?
[01:06] <sorush20> hi here is the list of usb devices I have I don't know if my usb two is working proprely or not
[01:06] <sorush20> 00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  USB 1.0 Controller (rev 0f) 00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  USB 1.0 Controller (rev 0f) 00:03.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]  USB 2.0 Controller
[01:07] <intelikey> glimmung vesa
[01:07] <intelikey> sorry four letters.... :)
[01:07] <thingy> glimmung: its called the Alternate CD here's a url http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/edgy/
[01:07] <intelikey> glimmung you might try using vesa vidio driver    if that don't work alternate CD  ^
[01:08] <glimmung> so I pass vga=vesa to grub or what?
[01:08] <smaggard> change /etc/X11/xorg.conf driver to vesa :D
[01:08] <sorush20> I have nothing attached to the ehci
[01:09] <glimmung> well then what about when I want to get the nvidia drivers later?
[01:09] <klerfayt> is #kubuntu appropriate for asking questions about kernel modules_
[01:09] <smaggard> change it from vesa to nvidia
[01:09] <glimmung> i just dont understand how I can change the config on a live cd
[01:09] <smaggard> oo
[01:09] <smaggard> im not sure about thatlol
[01:10] <intelikey> glimmung no you edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change nvidia to vesa  save    and startx
[01:10] <Authority_laptop> thanks thingy, got it figured out
[01:10] <glimmung> dont I have to be root to edit the xorg.conf?
[01:10] <smaggard> yes do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:10] <Hobbsee> klerfayt: you can try
[01:10] <glimmung> ok
[01:10] <intelikey> glimmung you are root jr.  use the force.    sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:11] <klerfayt> Hobbsee: if I boot then modules load right? e.g. "psmouse"
[01:11] <Hobbsee> klerfayt: at some point, yes
[01:11] <thingy> The live cd is more trouble than its worth....nothing at all wrong with the alternate cd install. imo. bah
[01:12] <intelikey> prolly most of them in the initramfs.img klerfayt
[01:12] <klerfayt> Hobbsee: as we know psmouse rate is 80 - my question is if it is possible to change config file so that rate=40 _
[01:12] <intelikey> thingy i concour
[01:12] <smaggard> to load modules just add them to /etc/modules
[01:13] <thingy> klerfayt: change the rate in xorg or on the command line (gpm) ?
[01:13] <kkathman> hey Hobbsee :)
[01:13] <klerfayt> thingy: if you mean psmouse.rate=40 in grub then sadly it is not recognized
[01:13] <thingy> klerfayt: or are you saying that the module itself has a rate parameter which can be set
[01:14] <klerfayt> thingy: default rate is 80 I want it to be 40
[01:14] <klerfayt> thingy: one way to do it is sudo rm -r psmouse and then sudo psmouse rate=40
[01:14] <intelikey> sounds like an xorg.conf issue
[01:14] <Hobbsee> hey kkathman!!!
[01:15] <Hobbsee> klerfayt: usually in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, maybe?
[01:15] <klerfayt> these things can't be changed in xorg.conf
[01:15] <intelikey> kcontrol can change the rate of mouse movement cant it
[01:16] <klerfayt> nono this is not same
[01:16] <thingy> klerfayt: add a line in /etc/modules saying "psmouse rate=40" (no speech mark of course) and the module will honour this parameter whenever its loaded
[01:16] <klerfayt> thingy: I tried that it was still 80
[01:16] <intelikey> what rate is this  you are talking about sample rate not movement rate   ?
[01:16] <klerfayt> intelikey: module option
[01:17] <intelikey> yeah 40 per second
[01:17] <intelikey> ok
[01:17] <ruisu> hey, hi you all :),  im haveing a problem witha newly created user: there is no audio hardware :S
[01:17] <ruisu> does anybody knows why is this?
[01:18] <intelikey> klerfayt look into /etc/modprob.d/options
[01:18] <klerfayt> thingy: oops I tried it with /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[01:18] <intelikey> i think you can set it there.
[01:18] <klerfayt> thingy: maybe that is why it was still 80
[01:18] <thingy> klerfayt: it should be /etc/modules
[01:19] <thingy> klerfayt: i was wondering why that would not work
[01:19] <klerfayt> thingy: ok I'm going to try /etc/modules ; but psmouse isn't there (it is in aliases)
[01:19] <ruisu> no body? :S
[01:19] <intelikey> thingy ubuntu doesn't by default have a /etc/modules   it can use it but /etc/modprobe.d/'files'  is what it defaults to.
[01:20] <thingy> klerfayt: you don't need it in aliases...just a line in /etc/modules saying psmouse rate=40
[01:20] <thingy> intelikey: oh right...yeah I had created my one for my sound card
[01:20] <intelikey> and as i said   it can use /etc/modules
[01:20] <thingy> intelikey/klerfayt: then i dont know why it didnt work if it was in modprobe.d
[01:20] <zeeo> hey guys i'm trying to unrar a file with kubuntu 6.10
[01:21] <zeeo> and i can't get ark to work
[01:21] <zeeo> with rar
[01:21] <ruisu> zeeo: you need to install unrar
[01:21] <smaggard> will ark unrar a file?
[01:21] <klerfayt> thingy: it didn\t work bacause I tried /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[01:21] <intelikey> thingy cause options rather than aliases  maybe ?
[01:21] <zeeo> onec i install
[01:21] <smaggard> i thinkonly unrar will
[01:21] <ruisu> in adept, search for "unrar" and there you go ;)
[01:21] <zeeo> how can i make
[01:21] <zeeo> ark
[01:21] <zeeo> cuz ark says it can't find unrar
[01:21] <klerfayt> what is max. value of psmouse rate=?
[01:21] <thingy> intelikey/klerfayt: ah...dang am not following the conv properly
[01:21] <ruisu> that means you dont have installed unrar
[01:22] <thingy> ruisu: is the user a member of the audio group ?
[01:22] <intelikey> !unrar-free
[01:22] <ubotu> unrar-free: Unarchiver for .rar files. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0.1+cvs20060609-1 (edgy), package size 17 kB, installed size 80 kB
[01:22] <ruisu> no , right now no, is that the issue?
[01:22] <intelikey> zeeo ^
[01:22] <thingy> ruisu: i dont know...can you explain the problem...did you mean that the problem is that one user...who is newly created..does not get access to sound hardware...but other users can?
[01:22] <zeeo> ya i installed that
[01:23] <zeeo> one
[01:23] <zeeo> 1 sec let me tell you what ark says
[01:23] <zeeo> when i try to unrar
[01:24] <intelikey> file-roller / ark   should be able to use it...  you may have to tell ark where it is.
[01:24] <ruisu> thingy: i, ruisu, can use audio harware normaly, but ive created a new user, that new user cant handle audio, kmix cant find audio hardware
[01:24] <columbo197> hi -- I just upgraded to edgy from dapper, and now when I boot and log into kde, the KDE status window (where it is initializing components) goes black and my aplications are all starting, but immediately become "invisible" -- I can see them flash onto the window each time their display updates and then they immediately go away. I can see my desktop wallpaper. any idea around this?
[01:25] <thingy> ruisu:  ok then yes...it could be that the new user is not a member of the audio group...to check..log in as the user...type in groups and see if it says audio in the list
[01:26] <thingy> columbo197: have you rebooted the machine after the upgrade?
[01:26] <ruisu> hingy: yes, :P it wanst a member of the audio group :P i just added the new user to that group, i hoope that helps :)
[01:26] <intelikey> columbo197 you don't want my idea about it....
[01:26] <columbo197> thingy: yes, I rebooted
[01:26] <thingy> ruisu: try and make the groups the same for the user so that you dont get other problems like not being able to access cdrw etc.
[01:26] <ruisu> mhm :) just did that :P
[01:27] <ruisu> so
[01:27] <ruisu> thanks :)
[01:27] <tobias_> how do i run a bin installation file?
[01:27] <thingy> ruisu: log off and on for change to take effect and np
[01:27] <tobias_> !bin
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about bin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <tobias_> !install binfiles
[01:27] <thingy> tobias_: chmod u+x filename.bin; ./filename.bin
[01:27] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install binfiles - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:27] <tobias_> aha
[01:27] <tobias_> thanx
[01:27] <intelikey> tobias_ chmod 555 file.bin ; ./file.bin
[01:27] <tobias_> hmm
[01:28] <tobias_> which one?
[01:28] <ruisu> umm, ok, so how can make the new user a sudoer?
[01:28] <thingy> ruisu: add to the admin group
[01:28] <tobias_> Im trying to install planeshift
[01:28] <ruisu> and done??
[01:28] <thingy> ruisu: yep
[01:28] <ruisu> woot :) thanks thingy :D
[01:28] <ruisu> good bye :)
[01:28] <thingy> bye
[01:28] <intelikey> you asked how to exec a bin    chmod it and exec it
[01:29] <columbo197> I thnk I found a workaround just now --- I've got a dual monitor setup. I booted the machine wihtout the second monitor everything came up fine. I think it's because I was using the official nvidia kernel and it never got along with the fading stuff that the new version of kde likes to use
[01:29] <thingy> tobias_: follow these instructions...answers your question i think: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=289854&highlight=planeshift
[01:30] <tobias_> its working ! :D'
[01:30] <tobias_> thingy: your thingy worked
[01:30] <tobias_> thanx!'
[01:30] <thingy> my thingys always worked! :-)
[01:33] <tobias_> is cedega only 7mb big?
[01:35] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[01:35] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:36] <intelikey> da
[01:36] <thingy> you mean "ja"
[01:36] <thingy> da = russian i think
[01:37] <intelikey> tov ja
[01:37] <columbo197> How do I disable the default window fading effects in the new version of kubuntu?
[01:38] <tobias_> how do I upgrade my version of kubuntu to the new version?
[01:38] <intelikey> !upgrade | tobias_
[01:38] <ubotu> tobias_: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[01:38] <tobias_> aha!
[01:38] <tobias_> thanx
[01:39] <klerfayt> columbo197: window does not fade in edgy by default
[01:39] <thingy> columbo197: umm by default it doesnt do compwiz type stuff in kde....so again could this be something to do with your old config?
[01:39] <Grigorgeous> which package must I install to unrar  rar archives?
[01:39] <thingy> columbo197: to disable compwiz, disable the Composite extension in xorg.conf or just comment the line out
[01:40] <intelikey> !unrar | Grigorgeous
[01:40] <ubotu> Grigorgeous: unrar is rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression  There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free
[01:41] <thingy> pacman_: overclocked it already?
[01:41] <ubuntu_> hi all
[01:41] <columbo197> sorry.. answered my own question again. they moved where a lot of the controls are now. It's under System Seettings > Window Behavior > Translucency > Translucency.   I'll just have to learn how to be more patient in my looking for answers :-)
[01:42] <intelikey> my aint you special
[01:43] <ubuntu_> my friend any one can tell me how can i connect to undernet server
[01:44] <intelikey>  /server irc.servername.ext
[01:44] <intelikey> depending on the client.   click the menu and select new server
[01:46] <ubuntu_> thanx intelikey
[01:47] <intelikey> np
[01:48] <FuzzplugJones> hello, longtime (10 years) linux server admin trying Ubuntu on my HP Pavilion zv6130us notebook for the first time.
[01:49] <FuzzplugJones> i think i've installed ndiswrapper correctly and pointed it to my driver, ndiswrapper -l says "bcmwl5          driver installed, hardware (14E4:4324) present (alternate driver: bcm43xx)"
[01:50] <FuzzplugJones> it creates wlan0 and eth1, however eth1 didn't come up forever until i ran wrieless assistant which actually seemes to have turned my radio on
[01:50] <FuzzplugJones> yet it returns "no networks found" even though i have a (currently) wide open no encryption AP in the house.
[01:51] <FuzzplugJones> iwlist scan also returns "eth1 no scan results"
[01:51] <FuzzplugJones> can anyone help me?
[01:54] <intelikey> !wifi | FuzzplugJones
[01:54] <ubotu> FuzzplugJones: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[01:54] <intelikey> that's the best i can do....
[01:54] <mzli> #ubuntu+1
[01:55] <intelikey> eeeek
[01:55] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  lsmod
[01:55] <intelikey> Opening /proc/modules: No such file or directory
[01:55] <FuzzplugJones> hmm
[01:55] <intelikey> and proc is mounted...
[01:55] <xsacha> lol
[01:57] <intelikey> oh yeah.... i forgeted
[01:57] <intelikey> FATAL: Error inserting ide_cd (/lib/modules/2.6.15-26-386/kernel/drivers/ide/ide-cd.ko): Kernel does not have module support
[01:57] <intelikey> i didn't build in module support.
[01:57] <intelikey> hope i have all i need in it...
[01:59] <klerfayt> I'm so happy; /etc/modprobe.d/options worked!
[02:00] <intelikey> tty24 [root@~]  mkdir /boot  ; lilo ; rm -fr /boot
[02:00] <intelikey> klerfayt sssh don't tell thingy
[02:01] <klerfayt> intelikey: pmouse max value is 200 ?
[02:02] <intelikey> ooops there's the problem.   i hope that disk accepts another session...  /dev/hdd              362K  362K     0 100% /mnt/cdrom
[02:02] <intelikey> klerfayt 200 or 250    sounds right.
[02:02] <klerfayt> what happens if I set it to 500_
[02:03] <intelikey> it wont load  OR will load with defaults.
[02:03] <intelikey> depends on kernel settings
[02:03] <intelikey> knowing ubuntu prolly will load with defaults
[02:03] <klerfayt> intelikey: can I fry hardware with linux kernel?
[02:04] <intelikey> yep
[02:04] <intelikey> but not easily
[02:05] <intelikey> "if you let the smoke out of those electronic deallies, they wont work no more.   conclusion; all elextronics run on smoke."
[02:06] <intelikey> s/x/c/
[02:17] <will__> hi all
[02:17] <will__> kubuntu doesnt have gkrellm?
[02:19] <ismael_> Hello. I just upgraded my Nvidia drivers to the beta version... I'm having trouble with the screen resfresh rate. When kdm loads it's fine (looks like 85Hz), but when my session starts, something happens and it goes to a whole 57Hz (at 1024x768, ie: NOT pretty). Using the Nvidia utility I can change the refresh back to 85Hz, but if I log out and in again, the setting's gone! Any idea of what's going on?
[02:20] <will__> ok this may be an awkward question, but where do I get libdvdcss from?
[02:21] <Aondo> ismael_  what version of nvidia was that?
[02:21] <wildchild> what do I have to do in firefox that when I would click on an m3u link amarok will open
[02:21] <jbrouhard> !restrictedformats
[02:21] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[02:22] <jbrouhard> that'll help, will
[02:22] <ismael_> Aondo, let me check
[02:22] <xsacha> !libdvdcss2
[02:22] <ubotu> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html  -  libdvdcss can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[02:22] <xsacha> !libdvdcss2 edgy
[02:22] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libdvdcss2 edgy - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:22] <xsacha> it's in adept here
[02:22] <ismael_> Aondo: 1.0.9629
[02:22] <xsacha> !gkrellm
[02:22] <ubotu> gkrellm: The GNU Krell Monitors. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.2.9-1ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 733 kB, installed size 2060 kB
[02:24] <will__> well no gkrellm packages are showing up in adept manager
[02:24] <Aondo> ismael_  i kinda have the same thing, kde only detects like 50 or 55hz, but the monitor tells me it is 75hz :D so i dont care with it hehe, but anyway, that driver isnt beta.
[02:25] <wildchild> n the gnome configuration you'll find a section where you specify what program to use for each MIME type  ---> where can I find gnome settings??
[02:25] <Aondo> ismael_  maybe a idea to remove the monitor settings you dont need, in xorg.conf and only go for the ones you want
[02:25] <ismael_> Aondo: Oh, I thought it was still in beta. KDE detects max 57Hz... And I can tell it's really 57Hz it's showing me...
[02:26] <ismael_> Aondo: but the screen refresh settings are... hard to get right :S
[02:28] <Ahmuck> is there a way to set admin user without having to use sudo for every command ?
[02:28] <ismael_> Ahmuck: sudo -i
[02:28] <ismael_> Ahmuck: hit enter, it will ask your password, and then you're root
[02:28] <ismael_> Ahmuck: use "exit" to go back to normal user
[02:28] <Ahmuck> thx
[02:28] <Ahmuck> that works great
[02:29] <ismael_> Aondo: so, maybe putting higher lower settings will help?
[02:29] <Ahmuck> !repositories
[02:29] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:29] <Ahmuck> auto repositories ?
[02:29] <Ahmuck> i know there is a repository confiugratior
[02:30] <Aondo> ismael_  actually, my monitor aswell is showing only 60hz now :P
[02:30] <ismael_> Aondo: That ain't nice :S
[02:31] <ismael_> Aondo: unless it's a lcd... then... you just don't care
[02:31] <Aondo> ismael_  yes it is lcd, but i care :D
[02:31] <Aondo> i want 75 hehe
[02:32] <ismael_> Aondo: I don't think lcd screens care much about resolution
[02:35] <Oellinas> hello
[02:37] <Oellinas> i need to know one thing. I tried to copy files on an external hard disk with NTFS using the NTFS-3g driver and the time it took was really long. is it normal or it's something wrong with my pc
[02:37] <Oellinas> i am using kubuntu edgy
[02:42] <Hawkwind> Oellinas: That's not something we support, since Linux doesn't support writing to NTFS without data loss most of the time
[02:43] <pi1l> can anybody please tell me. how do i read 8-th number in 5th line in a file, remember, that it is parameter #1, and multiply it by 2 in cpp?
[02:43] <Oellinas> i see. do u know if the ntfs-3g project has somewhere a irc channel?
[02:44] <Hawkwind> Oellinas: /msg chanserv list *ntfs*
[02:44] <Oellinas> thanks you very much
[02:46] <Hawkwind> Oellinas: No problems
[02:49] <Hawkwind> !ntfs > Hawkwind
[02:50] <wildchild> is in kubuntu repos any similar program like virutal DJ or tractor ?
[02:51] <Hawkwind> wildchild: apt-cache search dj or tractor
[02:53] <wildchild> Hawkwind: desert :S
[02:54] <Aondo> ismael_  did you dind anything out? :) im working on it aswell hehe
[02:54] <ismael_> Aondo: Yes, I found it
[02:54] <ismael_> #Option         "metamodes" "1024x768_85 +0+0; 1024x768 +0+0; 800x600 +0+0; 640x480 +0+0"
[02:54] <ismael_> this was the bad line
[02:54] <ismael_> in xorg.conf
[02:55] <ismael_> I don't know what it does
[02:55] <ismael_> but, as far as I know... it breaks my kde :P
[02:55] <ismael_> so it's out!
[02:56] <Aondo> it is probly a bad line becaus of 1024x768_85 dont think it should be a underline there
[02:56] <ismael_> Aondo: Maybe... I don't have a clue, never seen that thing before
[02:57] <Aondo> hehe
[02:58] <Aondo> i didnt notice this problem becaus i got a lcd monitor hehe, but its the same for me as for you, befor i log in i got 75hz but inside the session i get 60hz, probly just a config file somewhere :P
[02:58] <Aondo> some how i dont think it is xorg.conf
[02:59] <Aondo> anyone with inputs?
[02:59] <ismael_> But can you see the difference?
[03:00] <Aondo> no, but on another monitor i would have, just like you do.
[03:00] <ismael_> yeah, but as I said before, I don't think refresh rate really matters for Lcds
[03:01] <ismael_> if I remember correctly, my mother's lcd specifically said it was to be set at 60Hz for "best viewing"
[03:07] <Lam_> does anyone else but me have a problem with the panel tray icons constantly resetting into a one-row formation?  (panel is at 48px, but when the tray icons go into one row, i have to raise it to 52px, and back to 48px to get it back into two rows)
[03:08] <Aondo> ismael_ i created a new user, instead of recreating my own, to login on the new user instead, and my hz is now still 75hz
[03:08] <Aondo> so... there are clearly some config files in your home directory :D
[03:09] <Aondo> i have no clue where :/
[03:09] <ismael_> Aondo: oh. That's wierd
[03:10] <ismael_> Aondo: me neither...
[03:19] <Ahmuck> is there a way to remove kde groupware wizard ?
[03:19] <Ahmuck> i also want to remove kinfo center
[03:21] <Dr_willis> is there a program to manage cell phone phonebooks under linux? wife is getting hers all messed up.
[03:23] <thomas> i try to go to add/remove programs in the kmenu and it pops up with this error message saying "Su returned with an error." can anybody help me, please and thank you :)
[03:24] <ubuntu_> hi
[03:24] <Ahmuck> hi ubuntu_
[03:25] <ubuntu_> im trying to install edgy on a HD with dapper already. when the install ask me about partitions, i only can format, delete and properties
[03:25] <ubuntu_> so, i cant resize. whats the problem?
[03:25] <ubuntu_> i need to split the HD into 2 partitions :(
[03:27] <ubuntu_> can someone help me please?
[03:28] <campbch> ello
[03:29] <campbch> has anyone had problems with opengl screensavers and been able to fix them? i have the display drivers, and they are installed, but the screensavers are only showing on the top half of the screen
[03:29] <campbch> this isnt happening anywhere else in any other form of opengl
[03:36] <Norther_> hi all, can any one please help me in installing kubuntu?
[03:37] <campbch> i might be able to
[03:38] <campbch> noone else is around :p
[03:38] <campbch> unless there are flames
[03:38] <campbch> then i cant do much :(
[03:38] <Norther_> my problem is that it stops doing anything while loading the live cd stuff
[03:39] <Norther_> so i chose "start or install kubuntu" and i works for a few minutes than a blank screen appears and its done
[03:40] <campbch> done? as in, does it start on boot?
[03:40] <campbch> are you able to load the live cd?
[03:41] <Norther_> it boots from the cd...then a list appears on which the firt element is "start or install kubuntu", i chose that
[03:41] <campbch> alright...
[03:41] <Norther_> this is as far as i can get
[03:41] <campbch> try it on another computer
[03:41] <campbch> it doesn't change anything permanently
[03:41] <campbch> and you need to see if its the disk
[03:42] <Norther_> i have only two computers, on the second one it does nearly the same
[03:42] <campbch> the chances of it not working on two computers are quite slim, because compatability issues are pretty sparse
[03:42] <campbch> alright, have you tried re-burning the image?
[03:42] <campbch> or is it a retail cd?
[03:43] <Norther_> yes...and i tried the "chech cd for defects" menupoint and it said it's ok
[03:43] <Norther_> sorry, what is retail?
[03:43] <Norther_> i mean what does taht mean:)
[03:43] <campbch> retail as in, sent to you via shipit
[03:43] <Norther_> no, i downloaded it
[03:43] <campbch> retail in this sense, provided by the distro
[03:44] <campbch> is there a "safe mode" option for the startup?
[03:44] <Norther_> yes, but does the same
[03:44] <campbch> hmm
[03:44] <campbch> does it give any messages? if it starts loading, it should say at least something
[03:44] <Norther_> may it be the video-card?
[03:44] <Norther_> well...
[03:45] <brownedwg89> try the alternate cd
[03:45] <campbch> it hadn't done anything with the videocard at that point
[03:45] <campbch> generally if it says something and freezes after it says it, that thing caused the problems
[03:45] <Norther_> first the progress-bar goes left-right-left... about 30 times, and then a new progressbar fills up...and then comes the blank screen
[03:46] <campbch> hmm
[03:47] <campbch> it should say booting the kernel
[03:47] <campbch> loading drivers, mounting filesystem
[03:47] <campbch> does it say any of that?
[03:49] <Norther_> after pressing enter on "start or install" it says something like that and dots appear continously, as i remember it says something about loading kernel...this is before the progressbar appears
[03:49] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[03:49] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:49] <campbch> hummm
[03:49] <campbch> and the progress bar doesn't say anything specific?
[03:50] <Norther_> no
[03:50] <campbch> :o
[03:50] <campbch> i would ignore the disk saying the disk is good, and burn another just to be sure
[03:50] <campbch> they cost 50cents, it might solve your problem
[03:50] <Norther_> it's on an rw:)
[03:51] <campbch> hmm
[03:51] <campbch> well
[03:52] <Norther_> whats the difference between desktop version and amd64 (os something like that) version?
[03:52] <Dark_Vampire> hello
[03:52] <Dark_Vampire> how do i change the user and how my root password?
[03:52] <campbch> they are for different processor architectures
[03:53] <campbch> i havent had much experience with 64s, but there might be a difference
[03:53] <Norther_> i tried the adm 64 (because i have amd athlon 64 processor...) may that be the problem?
[03:54] <campbch> does the other computer have the same processor?
[03:54] <Norther_> no
[03:54] <campbch> you said
[03:54] <Norther_> :)
[03:54] <campbch> "nearly the same" with the other one, what exactly happens?
[03:54] <Norther_> well...
[03:55] <Norther_> on the other one it stops while the progress bar goes back and forth
[03:55] <Norther_> it freezes or something...
[03:55] <Dark_Vampire> how do i change the user and how my root password?
[03:56] <phil_> are you wanting to setup a root user
[03:56] <Ahmuck> sudo passwd root
[03:56] <Ahmuck> phil_: can you set up a default root user ?
[03:57] <phil_> yes
[03:57] <Ahmuck> admin something ...
[03:57] <phil_> no root
[03:57] <Norther_> and...brownedwg89 said i should try alternate cd, what is that for?
[03:57] <Ahmuck> how
[03:57] <campbch> alternate cd is another way to do things, that works on computers that cant use the other cd
[03:58] <phil_> you can enable it in the user management under system settings (kde)
[03:59] <flaccid> where to find help on dual head for ati radeon?
[03:59] <campbch> you can use that if you find that the other cd is good
[04:00] <campbch> but not for your system, you see what i mean?
[04:01] <Norther_> yes...but it installs the same, right? it differs only in how it installs?
[04:03] <campbch> you'd have to look it up
[04:03] <campbch> i used the other one, sorry :(
[04:03] <campbch> i'm sure it's reasonably self-explanatory, but it might "just work" more so than the other cd
[04:03] <campbch> but again
[04:04] <campbch> make sure it's the software causing problems, rather than the disk just being bad
[04:05] <Norther_> nero is writing it again right now and the alternate cd is downloading, so this night isn't over yet:)
[04:05] <campbch> ok, i need to ask one more time before i go to bed - is there any way to fix the opengl screensaver half screen problem? it says it should work if the i810 graphics driver is installed and set in xorg.conf, but it isn't working
[04:05] <Norther_> thanks for the help:)
[04:05] <campbch> yep, good luck :D
[04:06] <flaccid> !dual
[04:06] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dual - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:06] <flaccid> hmm howto on dual head for ati?
[04:07] <Dr_willis> dual moniutors can be a real pain
[04:07] <flaccid> i'm kind of close atm
[04:08] <SmrtJustin> I upgraded to Edgy, and now my volume keys are like bound to Kmix, but I'm using xbindkeys and have them tied to aumix commands.  Is KDE or Kmix getting my key presses before xbindkeys can, and if so, how do I stop it?
[04:08] <campbch> http://www.madirish.net/tech.php?article=151&section=5
[04:09] <SmrtJustin> I can run my aumix commands from a terminal and they work and don't tie into kmix at all, so Kmix/KDE must be grabbing the keys before xbindkeys can
[04:09] <flaccid> !dualhead
[04:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualhead - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:10] <campbch> flaccid, did that help? is that what you were looking for?
[04:10] <flaccid> no it didn't
[04:11] <campbch> :'(
[04:11] <hfhf> you guys seed kubuntu with bittorrent?
[04:11] <flaccid> there should be a howto
[04:11] <Art_> At boot, Kubuntu Edgy overwrites my xorg.conf file, reverting to 640 x 480 res.  Any thoughts?
[04:11] <campbch> http://www.linuxformat.co.uk/pdfs/LXF68.tut_twinview.pdf
[04:11] <Dr_willis> hfhf,  proberly faster to use a ftp/http mirror
[04:12] <hfhf> dr_willis: The torrents are much faster
[04:12] <Dr_willis> hfhf,  they 'can' be..  but  i doubt if they always would be,
[04:12] <campbch> try that one?
[04:13] <Dr_willis> last torrents for the isos i tried took forever.. was faster for me to get the .iso from a nice close mirror.
[04:13] <hfhf> What I meant was do you guys seed edgy or dapper, I seed edgy because I feel it's one way I can help out
[04:14] <hfhf> Really because every linux iso torrent I get gets me a download of 600+ kbps
[04:16] <hfhf> plus I don't feel like clogging up their tubes lol
[04:22] <Dr_willis> problems with torrents .. at the start no one has it... then you get good speeds once theres a lot of seeders.... then no one cares to seed later... :)
[04:24] <Dark_Vampire> ooooooh shit
[04:31] <igor> how i get .WMV videos plugins?
[04:32] <OOD> !w32-codecs
[04:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32-codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <OOD> !win32-codecs
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32-codecs - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:33] <OOD> !win32
[04:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about win32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:34] <Dr_willis> i alwyas go get the codec pack from the mplayer homepage
[04:34] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:35] <OOD> stupid bot is such a perfectionist :P
[04:36] <felixjet> what happen if i umount hda1 ? (where linux is running xD)
[04:36] <OOD> there's a package of the w32 codecs in multiverse
[04:36] <OOD> so it's easier to just apt-get it
[04:36] <Dr_willis> !find codec
[04:36] <ubotu> Found: python2.4, python2.5, libavcodec-dev, libavcodec0d, libcommons-codec-java (and 3 others)
[04:36] <Dr_willis> !find w32
[04:36] <ubotu> Found: mingw32, mingw32-binutils, mingw32-runtime
[04:36] <Dr_willis> heh.
[04:36] <OOD> !find win32
[04:36] <ubotu> Found: avifile-win32-plugin
[04:36] <robotgeek> w32codecs is illegal
[04:37] <felixjet> what happen if i umount hda1 ? (where linux is running xD)
[04:37] <OOD> no its not
[04:37] <Dr_willis> robotgeek,  thats what i was thinking . its no longer in the repos.. got to use the plf, or mplayer pacakges.
[04:37] <robotgeek> yup Dr_willis
[04:37] <Dr_willis> is the PLF still supporting ubuntu?
[04:37] <Dark_Vampire> i dont know if its illegal... but does it matter? ^^
[04:38] <Dark_Vampire> information should be open to anyone
[04:38] <robotgeek> Dr_willis: i would guess so
[04:39] <martalli> Illegality does matter...even if you aren't going to jail, you might find yourself slapped wqith a lawsuit or somesuch...at least consider not installing ibdvdcss and such on the computers at work...
[04:40] <Dr_willis> i alwasy get my videos from... err... never mind..
[04:40] <Dark_Vampire> ok computers on work is sthg different^^
[04:40] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:41] <martalli> Can I ask a quick hardware question?
[04:42] <Dr_willis> Sure!
[04:42] <Dr_willis> why not!
[04:42] <martalli> I have an older homemade comp with a 2500 barton proc, and a nforce2 mb.  The mb died...i have been told that nforce2 isn't the best choice for linux. Should I pick a different chipset or try to find another nforce2?
[04:43] <martalli> I was going to replace the mb and maybe donate it to my preschooler's class (maybe sell the idea of edubuntu to the school in the process)
[04:44] <robotgeek> martalli: werent you running linux on it before
[04:45] <martalli> dual booting xpa nd linux.  I had some problems, but I think it was from the ati aiw card (that was a pre-linux addition)
[04:46] <martalli> but see, now I have the "opportunity" to start all over ont he mb and w2ondered if this advice was right, and if there was a better choice
[04:46] <robotgeek> i'm new to the 'PC" world, so no clue
[04:48] <Lam_> kmplayer didn't purge itself correctly.  how do i remove entries from the "Open with..." drop down?
[05:07] <lnxkde> how can I make kmix to use OSS instead of alsa?
[05:09] <Dr_willis> Lam_,  i recall seeing them in the err... hmm where you set file assoications, you can reorder/remove/add those things.
[05:10] <Lam_> Dr_willis: lol i have no idea what you're talking about :(
[05:11] <Dr_willis> explore the os. its where you set file assoications. :P ill have to look for it myself.
[05:11] <Lam_> i can go to "Open with..." >> "Other..."
[05:12] <Jucato> Konqueror -> Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> File Associations ?
[05:12] <Lam_> and it lets me assign a particular command or program to any file association
[05:12] <Lam_> mm i'll try that
[05:12] <Dr_willis> Konwueror -> settings --> configure --> file assoication
[05:12] <Dr_willis> :) logical place for it i guess. lol
[05:13] <Dr_willis> hmm.. the .divx icon has a netscape logo.. odd
[05:14] <Lam_> oh wow, it's everywhere
[05:14] <Lam_> i have to remove it like, 300 times
[05:15] <lnxkde> how can I fix this?
[05:20] <Lam_> lol i'm stupid, what a waste of time
[05:21] <Lam_> i was wondering why the hell there were so many instances of KMPlayer without a way to remove it, and realized it was in ~/.local/share/applications.  removed it there and they all disappeared
[05:21] <Lam_> Dr_willis, Jucato:  thanks
[05:22] <Jucato> np
[05:24] <gurumeditationer> Is it just me or are there kde headers missing in the 6.10 debs?
[05:24] <gurumeditationer> In particular stuff like kactionmenu.h
[05:24] <Jucato> kde-devel
[05:25] <gurumeditationer> Both kde-devel and kde-devel-extras installed
[05:26] <Dr_willis> kde-devel-extra-extras-extra-read-all-all-about-it
[05:30] <dennister> good evening all
[05:32] <dennister> hi LeeJunFan
[05:33] <dennister> has anyone here ever used dvdshrink in linux?
[05:34] <dennister> i was quite happy with it in windoze, but it originated as open source, and I'm wondering why it's not in the repos?
[05:35] <Dr_willis> I would guess licensing issues, it may not be fully gpl.. or theres no one wanting to maintain it.
[05:35] <Dr_willis> !find dvdshrink
[05:35] <ubotu> Package/file dvdshrink does not exist in edgy
[05:35] <Jucato> not everything that's FOSS are in Ubuntu's repositories
[05:36] <faked_> !wine
[05:36] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[05:36] <dennister> yes, i realize that...i was looking on mr.bass's site (the originator) and he's certainly maintaining it...probably is licensing issues
[05:37] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu Linux DVDShrink DVDDecrypter Guide  http://www.mrbass.org/linux/ubuntu/dvdshrink/
[05:37] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:37] <Dr_willis> i tend to just rip dvd to avi...
[05:37] <dennister> i mean, he's using the legal loophole that it is legal to make one backup copy
[05:37] <Dr_willis> then from AVI to PSP format.
[05:38] <Dr_willis> hmm.. that guide has a few typeos :)
[05:38] <dennister> microshaft finally sent me my xp/mce disks yesterday, and i don't want to use them without a backup this time...in case it gets cracked/damaged from overuse again :(
[05:39] <Dr_willis> Hmm... you are wanting to use dvdshrink for that?
[05:39] <dennister> not that i want to keep reinstalling it, but it's so buggy...Dr_willis: yes
[05:40] <Dr_willis> perhaps i am confused as  what xp/mce disks are... :)
[05:40] <dennister> like i said: it's fully legal to make one backup copy
[05:41] <Dr_willis> from an 'os' point of view.. you are licensing the os. .:) i dont see wny you cant legally have several dozen copies..  the media it came on is not the os. :)
[05:41] <Dr_willis> heck they sell pc's wth windows with no media to restore it. heh.
[05:41] <dennister> i used it originally when i was authoring an original training dvd...and i couldn't figure out why 90 minutes of video couldn't fit on a dvd...yes, ur right
[05:41] <Dr_willis> but I dont plan on using windows again any time soon.
[05:42] <faked_> Heeeeeeeey whattup! Long story short, I'm trying to run Oregon Trail in wine, but I have NOOOOOO idea how to use wine since I never really have on my own before, I've always followed a buncha instructions >_>. So how do I get this to run?
[05:42] <Dr_willis> Allchin says Vista doesn't need antivirus? Nope.  http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061111-8199.html
[05:42] <Dr_willis> wine whatever.exe
[05:42] <Dr_willis> in its most basic way
[05:42] <Dr_willis> faked_,  isent that a dos game?
[05:42] <dennister> i'd rather not myself, especially now that i'm so close to having mythtv up and running smoothly, but i still need it for collaboration work with publishers
[05:42] <Dr_willis> or ya got the re-release-for windows?
[05:44] <dennister> vista/windows not need anti-virus?!!? not likely
[05:45] <dennister> of course, the ppl you have to be careful of in terms of security for vista is ms themselves
[05:45] <dennister> what with their wpa/wga lockouts
[05:47] <dennister> Dr_willis: i'm having a bit of an issue  with sound in mythtv...i can play music there, and it uses mplayer for avi files; I can hear the audio in mplayer without myth, but not in myth...any clues?
[05:49] <dennister> i can also see the video from my tuner in mplayer, but no sound
[05:49] <Dr_willis> sounds like codec issues..
[05:50] <Dr_willis> what does mythtv even use to play videos?
[05:50] <Dr_willis> can it be set to use some other player. Hmm..
[05:50] <robotgeek> Dr_willis: depends on whether you decoding is in hw/sw, maybe?
[05:50] <dennister> yes, it's gotta be codecs, but somehow i can't get at the codecs in myth to change them
[05:51] <Dr_willis> yea - there is that also
[05:51] <dennister> now yesterday, with another edgy isntallation, i could hear audio and see video, both from the tuner, using mplayer
[05:51] <dennister> robotgeek: u intending to install mythtv?
[05:52] <robotgeek> dennister: yes, but my current motherboard is broken, and internet does not work. i guess i will tackle that issue later
[05:52] <robotgeek> i do have a el cheapo card supposed to work under linux
[05:52] <dennister> and i'm using hw decoding, software encoding, with a hauppauge 250
[05:53] <dennister> what's ur card?
[05:54] <robotgeek> i have a sarbent pci card, it is supposed to work, everythign software
[05:54] <dennister> bttv chipset, or conexant?
[05:54] <robotgeek> hmm, the mythtv wiki said bttv, i think
[05:54] <robotgeek> lemme check
[05:55] <robotgeek> dennister: BT848 chipset
[05:55] <dennister> I'm wondering if i can't change the codecs in mysql-server/phpmyadmin...
[05:56] <dennister> robotgeek: ur lucky then...u won't be limited to myth
[05:56] <robotgeek> dennister: what do you mean, limited to myth?
[05:56] <dennister> all the other tv apps seem to be bt-based...i didn't have much of a choice about myth
[05:57] <dennister> my hauppauge uses ivtv drivers, which are incompatible with kdetv, tvtime, xawtv, motiv...
[05:57] <robotgeek> dennister: well, all i was shooting for is myth :)
[05:57] <dennister> that's what i meant about being 'limited to myth'...why do u want myth?
[05:57] <robotgeek> however, all the brunt of the work will need to be done be my cpu
[05:58] <robotgeek> to watch tv, that's about it
[05:58] <dennister> it's extremely challenging to install...u need a whole lamp server, the lirc remotes are a biatch...
[05:59] <dennister> i've only been using linux for 3.5 months, and everyone agrees: mythtv is not for newbies
[06:00] <jutty> hey i havean 80 gig hard drive with windows and ubuntu on it i wanna resize my wndows partition to give linux more space how should i do that?
[06:00] <robotgeek> dennister: crap, linux says philips semiconductor
[06:01] <robotgeek> i suppose i should return the card.
[06:01] <tarak> hello everyone
[06:01] <dennister> pretty well all the actual progress i've made with mythtv is over the past week..cause with edgy you can download the drivers from repos
[06:01] <dennister> hi tarak
[06:01] <dennister> jutty: u resize windows partition with gparted
[06:02] <jutty> it wouldnt let me resize
[06:02] <jutty> ahh i used qparted
[06:02] <dennister> use the livecd to /resize/install...no? is the windows full?
[06:02] <robotgeek> dennister: got a link, i want to install :)
[06:02] <tarak> i am pretty new at this, i just installed ubuntu 6.06.. I want to upgrade gaim since it closes by itself as soon as it gets my MSN contact list. I downloaded rpm file from gaim and now i dont know what to do with it
[06:02] <tarak> can someone please help me?
[06:02] <jutty> no the windows isnt full
[06:02] <dennister> yes jutty, qt parted won't let u resize
[06:02] <Dr_willis> tarak,  you are totally doing it wrong.
[06:03] <dennister> or it says it has resized, but it hasn't
[06:03] <tarak> Dr_willis: please help me do it right
[06:03] <Dr_willis> tarak,  for starters kubuntu dosent use rpms, it uses the apt-get system  which uses '.debs'
[06:03] <fumbalah> tarak: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Gaim_2%2e0_Beta_3_Quick_Install?highlight=%28gaim%29
[06:04] <Dr_willis> tarak,  the latest ubuntu (edgy) 6.10 just came out a few weeks ago. You may want to install that. It will have newer versions of a lot of things.
[06:04] <jutty> do i have to unmout the ntfs partition first?
[06:04] <jutty> thats the only option itll give me
[06:04] <dennister> jutty: try the ubuntu or kubuntu livecd...it uses gparted...it will leave the ntfs partition unmounted
[06:05] <dennister> by default
[06:05] <jutty> cant i just unmount it in gparted right now?
[06:05] <dennister> is there an option to do that? if so, yes
[06:05] <tarak> thanks alot Dr_willis , and i will do that as soon as my CDs ship :)
[06:05] <dennister> u should never try to resize a parition while it's mounted
[06:06] <Dr_willis> tarak,  you could upgrade to edgy. :) but that may not work well for some people.
[06:06] <jutty> i unmunted it and hen it only gave me the ption to format to:
[06:06] <robotgeek> dennister: wow, i think i got lucky. my card is supposed to be "well supported"
[06:06] <dennister> jutty: r u still using qtparted?
[06:06] <jutty> no
[06:06] <jutty> gparted
[06:06] <dennister> robotgeek: that's great
[06:07] <tarak> Dr_willis: i have monthly bandwidth limit so i should save it for things i need more :(
[06:07] <dennister> jutty: hmmm...it's been a little while for me since i used the livecd's to install
[06:07] <robotgeek> dennister: now to install dvbutils without internet!
[06:07] <dennister> good luck robotgeek...i don't envy u
[06:08] <tarak> when i double click on my ntfs partition, i get an error unable to mount... can someone please help me to fix it?
[06:08] <dennister> jutty: u certainly do NOT want that windows system drive reformatted
[06:08] <jutty> i know
[06:08] <jutty> i still wanna use it
[06:08] <jutty> just i want some of the space repartioioned for linux
[06:09] <dennister> i was at a ubuntu-for-newbies meeting tonight, and they were showing how to use gparted to resize a working windoze parition
[06:10] <xsacha> ntfs partition?
[06:10] <jutty> yes
[06:10] <dennister> jutty: u may have to use windows to clean it out, defrag, and resize...although ti's wierd that gparted won't resize it without wanting to format it
[06:10] <jutty> im installing ntfstoosl right now
[06:11] <xsacha> i think resizing ntfs is still unsafe
[06:11] <dennister> xsacha: u probably know more about gparted than i do...
[06:11] <xsacha> it has worked for me before, but some people have lost data with it
[06:11] <xsacha> no, i dont use gparted
[06:12] <dennister> those blasted ntfs partitions! so picky
[06:13] <robotgeek> dennister: if i install dvb-utils, can i watch tv thru it?
[06:13] <dennister> when i'm working with windoze, i typically use tools like parition magic 8 or acronis true image
[06:13] <dennister> dvb is for europe
[06:13] <jutty> ok i have rssizing started
[06:13] <jutty> lol
[06:13] <dennister> it's their version of hdtv
[06:14] <robotgeek> what do i need then? dennister , just analog. no hd stuff for me
[06:14] <dennister> good for u jutty
[06:14] <jutty> lol thnks for the gparted and ntfstools tip
[06:14] <dennister> motv is supposed to be just a newer version of xawtv...lots of people like tvtime, and there's even kdetv
[06:15] <dennister> i don't think any of them are pvr's tho...where r u robotgeek?
[06:15] <robotgeek> dennister: usa.
[06:16] <dennister> ok...stay away from vdr then...that's mainly for europe, too...lol, i tried that too, with kanotix
[06:16] <robotgeek> crap, is there a knome utility? i have ubuntu edgy installed.
[06:17] <dennister> robotgeek: try tvtime
[06:17] <robotgeek> thanks
[06:17] <dennister> it might work out of the box, and doesn't take so long to figure out IF it will work
[06:19] <dennister> robotgeek: i love edgy cause of the ivtv...but u might find it even easier to install myth with ur bt-based card
[06:20] <dennister> hey jutty: hows the progress?
[06:20] <jutty> i freed the psace and lessened my windows partition
[06:20] <jutty> now i have 25 gigs of unallocated space
[06:20] <dennister> have u tried out the windows yet?
[06:20] <jutty> cani add that to my linux partition?
[06:20] <jutty> nope should i?
[06:20] <dennister> make sure it's safe...yes
[06:20] <jutty> brb
[06:21] <dennister> then, continue to install the ubuntu
[06:21] <dennister> too late
[06:21] <dennister> hi faked_ :)
[06:21] <faked_> Hey, my computer got screwy. Did you get my question from before?
[06:22] <dennister> no, sorry?
[06:22] <faked_> oh. well then.
[06:22] <faked_> Long story short, I dunno how to use wine, but I wanna play Oregon Trail
[06:22] <faked_> Halp?
[06:22] <river> Hello, I currently have two hardrives, a 40G master with windows, and a 120G slave with pclinuxos, I wish to eliminate the 40G from the computer and make the 120G the Master... how can this be done?
[06:23] <river> pclinuxos=kubuntu, typo
[06:23] <dennister> sorry, i haven't tried wine yet...perhaps xsacha?
[06:23] <faked_> never heard of it >_>
[06:23] <faked_> can I just get it in synaptic or something?
[06:23] <dennister> river: you change the drives to master/slave by wiping the windows drive, and using it as a lvm to the linux drive
[06:24] <dennister> !wine
[06:24] <ubotu> wine is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information.
[06:24] <river> dennister, I don't want the windows drive in the computer anymore, I am giving the windows drive away
[06:24] <dennister> u install wine properly first, including from the repos, and then u might be able to install the orgon trail...but that's just my guess
[06:25] <dennister> river: oh, i c. then u open ur box, take the drive out, and use cable select/jumpers to make it the master
[06:26] <dennister> the bigger drive is the one u change cables/jumpers with, that is
[06:27] <dennister> then, when u refire up the computer with just the remianing drive, the bios should detect the difference
[06:28] <river> dennister, only problem, the root still refers to instelf as hdb
[06:28] <dennister> river: you will probably have to reconfigure grub's map, too, and do some editing of that
[06:28] <river> should be hda
[06:28] <river> I am using lilo
[06:28] <river> btw
[06:28] <dennister> oh, i'm afraid i know nothing of lilo, but u should be able to edit that, too
[06:29] <dennister> river: i'm afraid this is getting out of my league, so perhaps a more experienced helper than this noob is in order
[06:30] <dennister> i'm used to going into the box and redoing things, but <4 months with Linux means that i don't want to give anyone a bum steer
[06:30] <river> dennister, ok, cool, hopefully someone does know, I think I must edit fstab, but not sure what other files
[06:31] <river> I figured out "redo-lilo" fixes the bootloader
[06:31] <dennister> fstab and lilo, possibly nmap or something like that...the drive mapper
[06:31] <dennister> lol...easier than we thought :)
[06:32] <dennister> now i need to go to bed..after midnight, and i only had 2 tiny naps this morning after being awake for 24 hours
[06:33] <dennister> if jutty comes back, perhaps someone could help him install the ubuntu?
[06:33] <dennister> g'night all
[06:37] <jutty> my windows do work
[06:38] <jutty> does*
[06:38] <jutty> now i just need help relocating the unallocated sace to my ubuntu
[06:38] <river> jutty, use Qtparted
[06:38] <jutty> not gparted this time?
[06:38] <robotgeek> jutty: if you start the installer up, it should automagically use the free spac
[06:38] <jutty> which installer
[06:39] <jutty> i already have a dual boot running btw
[06:39] <jutty> im on ubuntu right now
[06:39] <jutty> i took space off ntfs partition
[06:39] <jutty> and want it used towards ubuntu
[06:39] <robotgeek> jutty: oh, cool. what do you need to do then.
[06:39] <river> jutty, yeah, so do what I suggested, go to synaptic and install qtparted
[06:39] <jutty> i already did
[06:40] <river> cool
[06:40] <robotgeek> just format it as ext3 using whatever (gparted/qtparted)
[06:40] <jutty> someone else in here was helping me a minute ago
[06:40] <robotgeek> jutty: he left, so we are picking up the ball
[06:40] <river> jutty, qtparted will also let you resize the nt partition
[06:40] <jutty> ahh thanks
[06:40] <jutty> i already unallocated the sace off ntfs
[06:40] <robotgeek> jutty: cool, it should show up in parted. just right clikc,, and new
[06:41] <jutty> primary or exntened partition?
[06:41] <river> jutty, or you can resize an existing ubuntu parition, as long as its not mounted
[06:41] <river> *partition
[06:41] <jutty> i would liketo resize my current ubuntu partition
[06:41] <jutty> but can i unmount it while running dapper?
[06:43] <river> jutty, no, best to use the kubuntu live cd to do that
[06:43] <jutty> so use the dapper live cd run gparted and itll let me umount and resize my existing ext3 ubuntu partition?
[06:44] <river> jutty, unless you want to resize your home partition, which means log out as user, log back in as root
[06:44] <river> then resize your home
[06:44] <jutty> i wanna resize all of ubuntu
[06:44] <jutty> if possible
[06:45] <Lam_> how do i turn xdmcp on in kubuntu?
[06:45] <river> jutty, how big is your root?
[06:45] <jutty> im not sure
[06:45] <Lam_> whoops. xdmcp is only on gnome
[06:45] <jutty> i that my linux swap?
[06:45] <Lam_> .. i think
[06:46] <river> jutty, no, look in qtparted to see its size, its the one labled "  /  "
[06:46] <jutty> it only lists hdc1 2 and 3
[06:47] <river> jutty, which one did you install ubuntu on? (those 3 are your primary partitions
[06:47] <river> or are your 3 HD devices
[06:48] <jutty> i have 1 hd
[06:48] <jutty> 3 partitions
[06:48] <jutty> one windows and one linux
[06:48] <jutty> linux containing swap and ext 3 right?
[06:48] <Digital_Pioneer> Hey, if I delete some files, can I get their names back?
[06:48] <river> jutty, ok, so you didn't make a seperate root and home when you installed then
[06:49] <jutty> i dont think so
[06:49] <river> that means you must use the live cd if you wish to resize
[06:49] <jutty> ok thanks
[06:49] <jutty> ill go try that
[06:49] <robotgeek> Digital_Pioneer: there might be some undelete utils for linux, i am not sure
[06:49] <Digital_Pioneer> robotgeek: I'm thinking more like logs.
[06:49] <river> I should have told jutty to just reinstall
[06:49] <Digital_Pioneer> robotgeek: Like, a log that lists file deletions, among other things.
[06:49] <river> and make a seperate home this time :P
[06:50] <robotgeek> Digital_Pioneer: nope, unless you logged
[06:50] <Digital_Pioneer> robotgeek: So no logs keep file removals?
[06:51] <Digital_Pioneer> Does anyone know of an undelete tool for EXT3?
[06:52] <robotgeek> Digital_Pioneer: not sure, sorry
[06:52] <qu1ckfr0st> anyone here know how to install java for firefox on mozilla?
[06:52] <qu1ckfr0st> i mean... on kubuntu.
[06:53] <robotgeek> !java
[06:53] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[06:53] <robotgeek> qu1ckfr0st: ^^
[06:53] <qu1ckfr0st> no way to do it through adept?
[06:54] <river> Digital_Pioneer, in linux, no matter file system, files are gone when deleted
[06:54] <robotgeek> qu1ckfr0st: enable multiverse, and install it from there
[06:54] <Digital_Pioneer> river: I just read that deleted files are turned to 0s in the binary...
[06:54] <Digital_Pioneer> river: So I guess that's pretty much the sum of it.
[06:54] <qu1ckfr0st> robotgeek: how do i "enable multiverse"
[06:55] <robotgeek> !repos
[06:55] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[06:55] <Digital_Pioneer> river: But I'd say that it's only in EXT3, not all Linux.
[06:55] <Lam_> !vnc
[06:55] <ubotu> vnc is a way of doing remote desktop.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !freenx.
[06:55] <robotgeek> qu1ckfr0st: it is explained in the desktop guide. Kmenu-> help
[06:55] <river> Digital_Pioneer, I have just never heard of any undelete feature ever in linux, would be interested to hear of it though
[06:56] <Digital_Pioneer> river: I did apt-cache search undelete.
[06:56] <Digital_Pioneer> river: This is what I found: recover - Undelete files on ext2 partitions
[06:56] <dragonfly7> Does Beagle work on KDE?
[06:56] <Jucato> !kerry
[06:56] <ubotu> kerry: a KDE frontend for the Beagle desktop search daemon. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.1-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 150 kB, installed size 776 kB
[06:58] <river> Digital_Pioneer, interesting, too bad I use Reiser, I am careful
[07:03] <compilerwriter> Is there a handy dandy keyboard mapping software somewhere here in kde?
[07:04] <Digital_Pioneer> Is there any way to access the journal of my EXT3?
[07:05] <felixjet> hi
[07:05] <robotgeek> compilerwriter: K-Menu -> System Setting -?> regions and accessibilty
[07:05] <felixjet> when i start kubuntu, i directly appear on console mode login. how i switch back to graphical?
[07:06] <Digital_Pioneer> felixjet: What display manager?
[07:06] <felixjet> digital_pioneer what u mean
[07:06] <robotgeek> felixjet: do you know if your gui works?
[07:06] <felixjet> of course
[07:06] <Digital_Pioneer> felixjet: KDM, GDM, XDM?...
[07:06] <felixjet> KDM
[07:06] <Digital_Pioneer> felixjet: Have you tried /etc/init.d/kdm restart?
[07:07] <felixjet> nope, ill try
[07:07] <felixjet> and btw, how to download a compiled kernel?
[07:07] <felixjet> that apt-get install linux headers ...
[07:07] <felixjet> which is the correct word, when i use apt-cache i get tons of results, and i cant view them in console
[07:08] <robotgeek> felixjet, sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:08] <felixjet> thank you!
[07:08] <felixjet> brb
[07:09] <compilerwriter> robotgeek that helped me with my numlock key thanks.  I want to swap my cap lock and my left control keys.  Heavy Emacs user.
[07:10] <SpAwN> !iso
[07:10] <ubotu> To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[07:10] <robotgeek> compilerwriter: hmm, i use vi :)
[07:11] <robotgeek> vim, rather
[07:11] <compilerwriter> I was once a power user of vi, but I switched to emacs in the 90s.
[07:11] <compilerwriter> Holy Christ I just realized I am old.
[07:12] <jutty> i tried runing the live cd and running gparted
[07:12] <jutty> to rezise my ubuntu partition but it doesnt let me use the unallocated space
[07:13] <CVirus> compilerwriter: how old ?
[07:13] <compilerwriter> Old enough to have been a power user of vi that switched to gnuemacs.
[07:14] <compilerwriter> At the time emacs was like version 7 I think.  Had really great C coding mode. Kept my variables straight for me and made my code all nice and tidy.
[07:15] <felixjet> damn it
[07:15] <robotgeek> emacs is now v 9? (21.x)
[07:15] <felixjet> i cant run xorg
[07:16] <felixjet> when i start kubuntu, appears directly the console mode
[07:16] <robotgeek> felixjet: check logs in /var/log/xorg.log
[07:16] <felixjet> and that kdm restart didnt work
[07:16] <xsacha> gotta love burn: http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/552/burnyl6.png
[07:16] <robotgeek> look for lines with (EE)
[07:16] <jontec> how do I add a directory to my path?
[07:16] <felixjet> how i do in console?
[07:16] <jontec> so that I can access it through Konsole?
[07:17] <compilerwriter> gnome had a keymapper I sure kde has one here somewhere I just can't seem to find it.
[07:17] <felixjet> !xorg
[07:17] <robotgeek> felixjet: cd /var/log/
[07:17] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:17] <felixjet> robotgeek i mean how to open the log in a console mode
[07:17] <robotgeek> felixjet: pico xorg.log
[07:17] <robotgeek> or less
[07:17] <xsacha> felixjet: vim /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:17] <felixjet> okey
[07:18] <felixjet> brb, its so annoying quit irssi to do things xD
[07:18] <robotgeek> xsacha: please dont recommend vim to a new user
[07:18] <robotgeek> or emacs, for the matter
[07:18] <Jucato> nano at least, or Kate :P
[07:19] <xsacha> gah he quit irssi
[07:19] <Jucato> ah he's on CLI? nano then :P
[07:19] <jutty> hey r obotgeek
[07:20] <jutty> i ran live cd but it wouldnt let me use the unallocated space to resize my partition
[07:20] <felixjet> back, okey the file was called Xorg.0.log
[07:21] <felixjet> and the (EE) i found was about nvidia cannot load his module
[07:21] <xsacha> felixjet: try alt+f2 and then alt+f1 right now
[07:21] <compilerwriter> vim isn't all that bad robotgeek. and Hell emacs has a tutorial.
[07:21] <felixjet> thanks xsacha haha xD
[07:21] <jontec> where is .profile located on Kubuntu? I need to add something to my path
[07:22] <xsacha> so you can open your Xorg.0.log right now :) and stay on irssi
[07:22] <robotgeek> compilerwriter: same with vim too
[07:22] <robotgeek> felixjet: did you install the binary driver ?
[07:22] <compilerwriter> yes it does.  It isn't quite as obvious though.
[07:22] <felixjet> yes, but while installing, it sais that installation cant find a precompiled kernel, and it needs to compile a new one
[07:22] <compilerwriter> Everyone should learn vim though.  You never know when you might be in a situation where that is all that you might have.
[07:23] <felixjet> and then, it gives 2 errors about can not find X directorys, and will put files in /usr/lib/ by default
[07:23] <Jucato> felixjet: did you install the nvidia-glx package? or you got the driver from nvidia.com?
[07:23] <felixjet> from nvidia
[07:23] <Jucato> ah... no wonder...
[07:23] <compilerwriter> Now can someone please tell me how one rebinds ones keys in kde?
[07:23] <felixjet> i forgot aptitude... xd
[07:24] <Jucato> compilerwriter: you mean keyboard shortcuts?
[07:24] <robotgeek> compilerwriter: oh, sorry. it thought you already found it
[07:24] <felixjet> i only need to download and install it right? dont need to uninstall the old ones
[07:24] <jontec> join #ubuntu
[07:24] <jutty> you have any idea why it wouldnt let me use the unallocated space to resize my partition?
[07:24] <jontec> wrong place sorry
[07:24] <compilerwriter> Nope No joy.
[07:25] <felixjet> what about nvidia-kernel-source ? i need it?
[07:25] <compilerwriter> I did find where to tun my numlock on on login though.  That was a plus.  I was getting tired of accidently moving my cursor about.
[07:25] <robotgeek> compilerwriter: damn, i dont have my kde up currently. sec
[07:25] <Jucato> compilerwriter: keyboard shortcuts?
[07:26] <compilerwriter> no jucato.  I need remap I want to swap to keys on the keyboard.
[07:26] <compilerwriter> Need the caps lock to function as ctrl and vice versa.
[07:26] <Jucato> felixjet: I would guess you need linux-restricted-modules-xxxx too?
[07:27] <Jucato> compilerwriter: I'm not sure, but in Keyboard Shortcuts, there's a tab there called Modifier Keys
[07:27] <felixjet> which one? i have generic right now
[07:27] <robotgeek> compilerwriter: http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs-en/MovingTheCtrlKey
[07:27] <felixjet> is not better 386 or 686 ??
[07:27] <Jucato> felixjet: then linux-restricted-modules-generic
[07:28] <compilerwriter> That might be it, but I have no clue how that works.  Will that remap it for just emacs or for good.
[07:28] <Jucato> generic encompasses all architectures (except PPC and AMD64)
[07:28] <Jucato> compilerwriter: for good, I think...
[07:29] <jutty> arg
[07:30] <dragonfly7> What is the application that lets you have desktop widgets in KDE?
[07:31] <dragonfly7> !widgets
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widgets - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <dragonfly7> !widget
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about widget - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <dragonfly7> !gdesklets
[07:31] <ubotu> gDesklets provides an advanced architecture for desktop applets -- tiny displays sitting on your desktop in a symbiotic relationship of eye candy and usefulness. Homepage is http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/
[07:31] <Jucato> !superkaramba
[07:31] <ubotu> superkaramba is an application that gives you interactive eye-candy on your desktop. To get themes for it, head over to http://kde-look.org
[07:31] <Jucato> dragonfly7: ^^^^
[07:32] <dragonfly7> Jucato: thank you. I couldn't remember the name.
[07:33] <felixjet> !configure xorg
[07:33] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about configure xorg - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:33] <felixjet> mmmmm
[07:33] <felixjet> !x
[07:33] <ubotu> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type this in a console: sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart  -  To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:33] <felixjet> how to reconfigure it?
[07:34] <Jucato> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:34] <Jucato> felixjet: ^^^^
[07:34] <felixjet> thanks
[07:37] <felixjet> pffffff
[07:37] <felixjet> i just reinstalled kubuntu and now ill need to do again coz i cant run graphical mode
[07:37] <thuan> hello, which pkg I need to install to get alsa c header files?
[07:38] <Lam_> !krdc
[07:38] <ubotu> krdc: Remote Desktop Connection for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 498 kB, installed size 968 kB
[07:38] <felixjet> !xserver
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xserver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <felixjet> !dpgk-reconfigure
[07:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dpgk-reconfigure - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:38] <Lam_> is krdc only a connection platform?  it doesn't provide a feature to enable the computer to become host?
[07:38] <larson9999> anyone here give win .9.25 a try in edgy?  i wonder if it fixes things
[07:41] <Jack1> hi guys
[07:41] <Jack1> can anyone help?
[07:42] <Jack1> after an correct upgrade to edgy eft, i cannot login anymore, but from console with startx i can enter a gnome session
[07:42] <Jack1> if i enter my details it kicks me out to the login screen after few seconds
[07:42] <Jack1> someone told me it might be with xauthority related
[07:43] <Jack1> there is enough space on all partitions
[07:45] <robotgeek> Jack1: you said gnome?
[07:46] <robotgeek> Jack1: why not try #ubuntu (or some overflow thing pushed you ehre)
[07:47] <robotgeek> Jack1: i would try deleting .xauthority, and rm -rf .ICE-authority
[07:48] <chatoros> hi everybody
[07:48] <chatoros> how i can get channels ??
[08:02] <phisrow> Greetings all. Could any of you tell me how to have a script execute on login with KDE?
[08:11] <soundmaster80> does anyone have an idea when the 9629 nvidia driver will be added to the repos?
[08:14] <soundmaster80> does anyone have an idea when the 9629 nvidia driver will be added to the repos?
[08:16] <xsacha> soundmaster80: i think they arent adding it because it has a few bugs and doesn't work on old gpus
[08:16] <xsacha> is it 2xx and 3xx or something?
[08:18] <soundmaster80> 6600gt?
[08:18] <soundmaster80> well, if it has bugs still then i'll leave it alone
[08:19] <suslik> Just installed 6.10, LCD's backlight stays on after "xset dpms force off" Does it work properly for anyone? Not sure under what category to file a bug.
[08:22] <Linux_Galore> suslik: I have a feeling kde can overirde the X defaults for that, have you looked in kcontrol
[08:26] <suslik> I went fairly deep into the wiki and acpi scripts. No matter which way you start, in the end, the scipts call "xset dpms force off", In my special case followed by "radeontools !#$!"
 for most people, "xset" kills the backlight, if "vbetool dpms off" does. In my case, vbetool DOES kill the backlight, but xset doesn't. So if anyone's LCD's light shuts off and they are not on Radeon, it's either generic ACPI in the kernel, or the X's ati driver
[08:36] <T3hWiz0rd> yay kubuntu! init 1 crashes you! j00 rule!
 That's nothing. Fedora Core 6 seg faults on boot if you put reaiser partition in fstab - that was very fun to troubleshoot.
[08:41] <youser> hey my dapper updated and went from tcl/tk 8.4 to 8.5 now my amsn oesnt work any help there?
[08:42] <T3hWiz0rd> anyone know why kubuntu wont save the changes i make to the power saver settings for the LIFE of it
[08:43] <Jucato> T3hWiz0rd: in Dapper? I think it's a bug
[08:43] <T3hWiz0rd> edgy
[08:43] <Jucato> hm.. that's strange..
[08:44] <T3hWiz0rd> it'll save it unti lX restarts
[08:44] <T3hWiz0rd> the second X restarts
[08:44] <suslik> Yeah, it reverts to the defaut 3h (or something like that) for me as well.
[08:44] <T3hWiz0rd> back to 5 hours it goes and 5 hours is bullshit.
[08:45] <T3hWiz0rd> pardon my french of cours
[08:45] <Jucato> from the Monitor & Display -> Power saving tab?
[08:46] <T3hWiz0rd> yup
 Yeh, that's the one.
[08:46] <T3hWiz0rd> it auto reverts to 5 hours
[08:46] <Jucato> hm... that's strange... I disabled it and it has stayed disabled...
[08:46] <T3hWiz0rd> its so annoying i almost want to leave kubuntu cos its not worth blowing my hardware or causing screen burn
[08:46] <Jucato> the last time I remember having this kind of problem was Dapper with KDE 3.5.4...
[08:47] <T3hWiz0rd> all i know is its annoying and im about to drop kubuntu over it
 it's the little things, aren't they :)
[08:48] <T3hWiz0rd> well this little thing can cause a costly hardware problem at some point
[08:48] <T3hWiz0rd> as my monitor is aging and screen burn is an increasing concern for me
[08:49] <T3hWiz0rd> i've never heard of something as dumb as a 5 hour default for power saver options
[08:49] <youser> hey my dapper updated and went from tcl/tk 8.4 to 8.5 now my amsn oesnt work any help there?
[08:51] <suslik> My distro is Osuse 10.1, following the news, went investigating other distros. Tried to spend a week on each one. Could't handle Fedora - KDE is too crude, too stock. No button for suspend in shutdown dialog. In kubuntu - my monitor whouldn't sleep at all. It's always the little nags that spoil the fun.
[08:53] <firephoto> T3hWiz0rd: the timeout setting is working here.
[08:53] <suslik> I would expect a lot of former OSuse ppl to come to Kubuntu and whine about little things. Suse's attention to details spoil users for good.
 Do you know what Kubuntu calls in the end to save the setting? Is it part of KDE config, or one of the system services?
[08:55] <Jucato> Session Manager?
[08:55] <firephoto> T3hWiz0rd: I don't think mine is set from that mon n disp settings though, I see that uses admin.. must be in my ~/.kde somewhere.
[08:55] <Jucato> the one with Restore from previous session stuff?
[08:55] <firephoto> suslik: no, not sure what you mean
[08:57] <nige_> anyone running a billion7402gl adsl modem?
[08:58] <T3hWiz0rd> this has been a known bug in kde for quite some time
[08:58] <firephoto> that display module doesn't work anyway (again), i have a custom xorg.conf for my twinview setup is the reason I think.
[08:58] <T3hWiz0rd> and still not fixed.
[08:58] <firephoto> T3hWiz0rd, it works fine with a plain kde, it's the kubuntu tweaks that killed it.
[08:59] <firephoto> i'm sure i have the setting in my ~/.kde is why it works fine here.
[09:01] <firephoto> I had fixed it (or figured a way around it) when I had dapper so that why I got the timeout values set I'm sure.
[09:02] <Jack1> hi
[09:03] <Jack1> i got this login problem after an edgy upgrade, i read i could bypass this by setting up a new user
[09:03] <Jack1> can i set up a new root user too?
[09:06] <luca> hi everyone
[09:06] <Jack1> hi
[09:06] <luca> does someone know how to fix an unmounting swap partition problem?
[09:07] <luca> mine is not mounted, which means I have slow computer and 1 gb wasted :(
[09:07] <Jack1> swap is never mounted
[09:07] <Jack1> (well i'm not sure) better ask the cracks here
[09:08] <luca> it is not active nor mounted
[09:08] <luca> I have checked with the proper command someone gave me here
[09:08] <luca> ok thanx anyway :)
[09:10] <Jack1> it is not used with /
[09:10] <Jack1> its just swap
[09:10] <Jack1> its different
[09:16] <weedar> Anyone here using ksynaptics? First of all whenever I turn on SHMConfig in xorg.conf the mouse-pointer is "pulled" to the upper-left part of the screen and when shutting down the syndock application crashes with sigfault 11
[09:20] <youser> whats the best workign amsn i cn have right now?
[09:33] <shinobi2> howto enable mouse in vim?
[09:34] <robotgeek> shinobi2: gvim, you mean?
[09:34] <shinobi2> nope, vim
[09:34] <shinobi2> xterm
[09:36] <youser> damn amsn and tcltk
[09:36] <unix_infidel> shinobi2: you mean mouse scrolling?
[09:38] <shinobi2> unix_infidel: i mean mouse as click and position cursor over there.
[09:38] <unix_infidel> shinobi2: that's gvim.
[09:39] <unix_infidel> i dont think there's a way to do that in xterm+vim
[09:39] <unix_infidel> or...hmm, lemme fire up linux, might be.
[09:39] <shinobi2> unix_infidel: ....=(
[09:56] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[09:56] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[09:59] <houssem> hello !
[10:00] <Werdnum> anybody here good with openvpn on k/ubuntu?
[10:01] <anthony_> bonjour
[10:01] <sredna> Hi
[10:01] <sredna> How can I see a list of files owned by a package?
[10:03] <Jucato> sredna: dpkg -L <.deb package> ?
[10:04] <pihhan> hello
[10:04] <sredna> Jucato: I don't know where the package is, but it is installed
[10:04] <pihhan> how can i control order of my sound cards in alsa?
[10:05] <sredna> I need to figure out where the qt4 package put it's binaries
[10:05] <Jucato> sredna: ah
[10:05] <Jucato> hold on... you can do it in the apt:/ kioslave but if you want a command line equivalent....
[10:05] <pihhan> sredna: try opening its package in ark
[10:06] <pihhan> dpkg -L does display its files once it is installed
[10:06] <houssem> does anyone have runed emule with wine ??
[10:08] <robotgeek> sredna: isn't there a qt-config command
[10:08] <sredna> robotgeek: Yes, but how would I know where it was put?
[10:08] <robotgeek> oh, locate maybe?
[10:08] <robotgeek> or find :)
[10:09] <sredna> It was renamed to qtconfig-qt4, but it does not help
[10:09] <sredna> At least I probably need to compile qt4 on my own
[10:09] <sredna> And install it properly
[10:09] <Jucato> sredna: I could find the apt command for it, but in Konqueror, you can use apt:/ to search for the package and see its descriptions, including the files that it installs
[10:10] <Jucato> sredna: better talk to Riddell or some of the devs, they know better when it comes to development. (that would include robotgeek :P)
[10:10] <lainproliant> i am trying to compile a program with pango as a dependency (gens-rc3), and its throwing linker errors at me
[10:10] <robotgeek> heh, i tht sredna was a dev :)
[10:10] <Jucato> robotgeek: yes, but only recently using Kubuntu, iirc
[10:11] <lainproliant>  /usr/bin/../lib/libpangooft2-1.0.so.0: undefined reference to 'pango_font_description_get_gravity' and six others
[10:11] <robotgeek> hmm, okay
[10:11] <lainproliant> i downloaded and installed from source from ftp.gtk.org pango 1.15
[10:12] <lainproliant> its kinda odd because i compiled wxWidgets from source and it required pango as well
[10:12] <lainproliant> maybe gens-rc3 doesn't like me lol
[10:13] <maniel> hi
[10:13] <realfolkblues> hi people
[10:13] <lainproliant> hello
[10:13] <maniel> what's the default windeco in kubuntu dapper?
[10:14] <Jucato> Crystal
[10:14] <Ace2016> Hi all
[10:14] <maniel> i found it nice and wanted to install it in my distro:)
[10:14] <Jucato> Edgy also has Crystal, but modified kubuntu buttons
[10:15] <maniel> thanks:)
[10:15] <Ace2016> is there any sort update block list or something? i've installed 0pen0ffice 2.0.3 and i want adept to stop trying to update it, 00 2.0.4 keeps crashing a lot
[10:15] <realfolkblues> I just installed 6.10 and it boots up to a screen full of weird colors. So i tryed to do the f1 thing to bring up a commang line to configure x but it wont bring up the command line any help?
[10:15] <lainproliant> hmm
[10:15] <lainproliant> i had that problem with this laptop too
[10:15] <lainproliant> a framebuffer issue it may be
[10:16] <lainproliant> try removing splash from the kernel parameters in your /etc/fstab if possible
[10:16] <Jucato> realfolkblues: Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[10:16] <realfolkblues> lainproliant: i cant bring up command how do i do that?
[10:16] <Jucato> lainproliant: actually, it would be /boot/grub/menu.lst
[10:16] <lainproliant> do you get a grub menu?
[10:16] <lainproliant> oh that's right
[10:16] <lainproliant> hehe stupid me
[10:16] <lainproliant> fstab is a list of mounts
[10:17] <nickste> hey all
[10:17] <nickste> How can I check my current screen refresh rate?
[10:17] <lainproliant> thanks jucato :P
[10:17] <realfolkblues> Jucato: lol thanks i was doing ctrl f1 i feel dumb
[10:17] <Jucato> realfolkblues: I think Alt+F1 would also do it
[10:17] <lainproliant> well, if i didn't remove splash, i would still eventually make it to X
[10:17] <realfolkblues> Jucato: i did that also did not work only ctrl+alt+f1 works for me
[10:18] <lainproliant> but if i tried to use any virual consoles, it would fade to odd colors again lol
[10:18] <lainproliant> virtual*
[10:18] <Ace2016> can't you add a command to grub? by editing the startup line to remove the frame buffer?
[10:18] <realfolkblues> Jucato: whats that reconfigure x command?
[10:18] <Jucato> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:18] <realfolkblues> Jucato: i'm noob still
[10:18] <realfolkblues> Jucato thanks!
[10:18] <lainproliant> that's what i had to do Ace2016
[10:19] <Jucato> Ace2016: you can edit menu.lst or do the modifications in the GRUB menu
[10:19] <lainproliant> yep ^_^
[10:19] <lainproliant> well, i am going to tackle this installation again
[10:19] <lainproliant> stupid pango always gives me problems lol
[10:19] <Ace2016> Jucato: i know i was just asking if it is possible to remove the frame buffer
[10:20] <Jucato> ah a grub option? hm... probably
[10:20] <pihhan> is there some voip phone in kubuntu or universe?
[10:21] <Ace2016> skype?
[10:21] <Jucato> !voip
[10:21] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about voip - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:21] <Jucato> er..
[10:21] <Jucato> !skype
[10:21] <ubotu> To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype  -  To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto
[10:21] <Jucato> :p
[10:21] <fdoving> !kphone
[10:22] <ubotu> kphone: Voice over IP (VoIP) phone application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:4.2-6 (edgy), package size 406 kB, installed size 1260 kB
[10:22] <realfolkblues> 6.10 supports mtp mp3 players now right?
[10:22] <Jucato> ?
[10:22] <realfolkblues> Jucato: mtp aka playforsure players
[10:22] <Jucato> ah..
[10:23] <pihhan> ah
[10:23] <pihhan> kphone should have use audio tag
[10:23] <pihhan> i think
[10:27] <realfolkblues> i like the new look of 6.10
[10:27] <realfolkblues> awww sweet! 6.10 has my wireless driver now lol
[10:30] <sredna> Is there some utility in ubuntu to select a specific version of something?
[10:30] <sredna> Like, which java or automake to use?
[10:31] <Jucato> sredna: if they are installed already? I only know of "sudo update-alternatives --config java"
[10:31] <fdoving> sredna: nothing graphical as far as i know. but you have 'update-alternatives' on the commandline. it's basically managing the symlinks in /etc/alternatives/
[10:31] <Jucato> sredna: you might want to look into /etc/alternatives for other options
[10:31] <Jucato> er there
[10:31] <fdoving> :)
[10:31] <sredna> Update-alternatives is fine
[10:32] <sredna> I just hope I can select a version of qt
[10:32] <fdoving> you can select qmake atleast.
[10:32] <sredna> Otherwise, I don't understand how I am supposed to use kubuntu as a kde4 development platform
[10:33] <Jucato> fdoving: maybe you can help him. :P
[10:33] <sredna> If I can't select the entire thing I will remove the ubuntu qt4 packages and compile and install properly
[10:33] <sredna> Because there are a bunch of stuff that needs to be in place
[10:34] <robotgeek> sredna: at this point, maybe ping someone in #kubuntu-devel :)
[10:35] <sredna> robotgeek: That could be an idea :)
[10:36] <realfolkblues> is there a way to find out who added support for my wireless card caus i want to thanks him lol it was a pain in the ass to get to work in dapper
[10:37] <igneh> hello
[10:37] <pihhan> realfolkblues: changelog it its package?
[10:38] <igneh> i'm trying to install kde from ubuntu...i did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:38] <igneh> now my loginscreen is kde-like, it still starts in gnome
[10:38] <realfolkblues> pihhan maybe :)
[10:38] <igneh> anyone know what went wrong?
[10:39] <Jucato> igneh: did you choose "KDE" in the Session menu?
[10:39] <igneh> mm
[10:39] <igneh> session menu?
[10:39] <igneh> i could have missed that... brb
[10:40] <Jucato> igneh: yes. under the menu options in the login screen
[10:40] <igneh> whoops
[10:40] <igneh> brb :)
[10:40] <realfolkblues> hmmmm my wireless can seee networks but cant connect to em
[10:43] <realfolkblues> anyone got any ideas?
[10:43] <igneh> ok, <- new :)
[10:44] <realfolkblues> igneh hi
[10:44] <igneh> love KDE tho :)
[10:45] <igneh> another thing... tried to install ati drivers
[10:45] <realfolkblues> i love the internet but i cant connect right now :(
[10:45] <Jucato> !ati | igneh
[10:45] <ubotu> igneh: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:45] <igneh> ok :p
[10:46] <realfolkblues> Jucato hey do you know anything about wireless beaing able to see networks but not connect?
[10:46] <Jucato> realfolkblues: sorry, no
[10:47] <Flosoft> hey
[10:47] <Flosoft> I am looking for an IAX Client that works
[10:47] <Flosoft> any good ones in the Repo's?
[10:48] <Flosoft> I used IDEFISK before, but there is no package for Ubuntu :(
[10:48] <realfolkblues> HAHA got it working nice
[10:48] <Jucato> Flosoft: you can try looking in http://packages.ubuntu.com or type "apt:/" in Konqueror for a nice interface
[10:51] <igneh>     *
[10:51] <igneh>       Generate a new set of module dependencies so the fglrx driver starts properly.
[10:51] <igneh> if the disabled list is empty i assume its ok?
[10:51] <igneh> nm
[10:51] <igneh> got it
[11:01] <igneh> !ati
[11:01] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[11:03] <igneh> wow think it worked :)
[11:10] <realfolkblues> i'm impressed that kubuntu has a 64bit driver for my wireless card when windows does not even have one
[11:13] <momal> If I copyed everything in / (/dev/hda1) over to /dev/hdb1 then changed fstab to mount /dev/hdb1 as / would my system be fine after doing it?.. or would something else have to be changed ? only thing I can think of that would need changing would be grub.
[11:15] <robotgeek> momal: i think you would need to run grub, rest all should be fine
[11:15] <momal> what you mean by run grub? to set up MBR?
[11:16] <robotgeek> momal: yes
[11:16] <pihhan> use grub-install
[11:16] <MRMorefield-ft> what is the command to remove something?
[11:16] <MRMorefield-ft> remove?
[11:16] <MRMorefield-ft> delete
[11:17] <momal> MRM: rm ?
[11:17] <MRMorefield-ft> ok
[11:17] <MRMorefield-ft> thx
[11:17] <momal> robotgeek, pihhan: thanks :)
[11:19] <brett> I am having trouble installing a new game I downloaded of of the internet. Can someone help me trouble shoot it pls
[11:19] <techNiKal> hi is there any software to create your own cbt in your own languages ? i want to create cbt for my language can anyone guide me about it please ?
[11:20] <realfolkblues> i love automatrix
[11:20] <brett> realfolkblues: How did you install automatrix?
[11:21] <pihhan> brett: one think you have to know: you should install application with packages
[11:21] <joe3k> brett: what game?
[11:21] <brett> pihhan: i dont understand?
[11:21] <brett> tremulous
[11:22] <pihhan> brett: if there is not such package or it does not work, start looking for web to donwload something
[11:22] <brett> i downloaded the .run file
[11:22] <brett> then tried clicking on it
[11:22] <pihhan> brett: linux is not single platform, installing programs is little bit different than in windows
[11:23] <brett> pihhan: yeah i know... but how it is different and how to install i am still a little lost on
[11:23] <robotgeek> brett: usually you install files using adept
[11:23] <pihhan> brett: check your package manager, if there is not such package
[11:23] <brett> ok
[11:23] <brett> how do i check the package mananger
[11:23] <pihhan> if you tell us name ot your game, we can help you more
[11:24] <brett> pihhan: tremulous
[11:24] <pihhan> menu/system/adept
[11:24] <joe3k> brett: it's in repos
[11:24] <pihhan> type app name
[11:24] <brett> pihhan: in the console type that?\
[11:24] <joe3k> brett: you can use adept or synaptic
[11:24] <brett> ok when i open adept how do i install trem?
[11:24] <pihhan> brett: no, in kde menu find adept icon
[11:24] <joe3k> brett: alternatively if you like cmd line apt-cache search tremulous
[11:25] <pihhan> you have to first find your package
[11:25] <pihhan> so type game name into search box :)
[11:25] <brett> pihhan: i have adept open
[11:25] <brett> pihhan: how do i install with adept
[11:26] <joe3k> brett: klick on the package and select install
[11:26] <brett> i dont see the package
[11:26] <momal> type tremulous in the box
[11:26] <brett> momal: i did....nothing came up
[11:27] <Chameleon22> i rebooted, not sure what happened before but all of the sda devices went mssing and now none of the USB devices (usb drive, usb flash drive, ipod) are loading - any suggestions?
[11:27] <momal> hmm repos musn't be set up correctly.. its there because thats how I installed it :p
[11:27] <momal> can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file onto http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca
[11:27] <brett> momal: i am quite certain something is set up wrong
[11:28] <brett> momal: ok...i was editing that earlier and might of screwed it up
[11:29] <shanky> good morning
[11:29] <brett> momal: i posted it
[11:30] <momal> can you link me to the post please
[11:30] <brett> momal: ok
[11:30] <brett> momal: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/246556
[11:30] <shanky> I have edgy installed with everything updated, but I can't find any package related to freenx I specially look for knx
[11:31] <brett> momal: when i first installed kubuntu this morning the add remove programs had a list of games that were availible and now they are no longer on the list
[11:31] <brett> momal: in case it helps.
[11:32] <typecast> shanky: seems like there is no deb-package for it. so you'll have to compile it from source :/
[11:34] <momal> brett: backup your old sources.list file then copy this | http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/246560 | into your sources.list file and change all the occurences of edgy to dapper
[11:35] <brett> momal: ok doing that now
[11:37] <BrightEyes_> hello.how can i add installation sources on kubuntu?
[11:37] <pihhan> sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list for example
[11:38] <pihhan> or manage with adept program
[11:38] <brett> momal: ok done... should i restart now?
[11:38] <momal> just open up adept and click fetch updates
[11:38] <pihhan> brett: no, only do update of sources in adept
[11:38] <BrightEyes_> pihhan: which path sources are the best to add?
[11:38] <pihhan> BrightEyes_: i dont understand
[11:38] <brett> pihhan: what do you mean?
[11:39] <pihhan> brett: man, check how many buttons you have there
[11:39] <pihhan> one of them is update or something like
[11:39] <pihhan> press it
[11:39] <brett> pihhan: in adept?
[11:39] <momal> brett: sudo apt-get update OR click fetch updates in adept
[11:39] <pihhan> brett: yeah
[11:40] <BrightEyes_> momal: i want to add extra sources...to get mplayer etc
[11:40] <brett> pihhan: below the menu you mean?
[11:40] <brett> pihhan: i have 6
[11:40] <BrightEyes_> i installed everything about xfce and when i get into xfce it brings a blue screen waiting to load up smth and then it stops and i have to reboot
[11:41] <brett> momal: i did the sudo one and it failed several but others went through
[11:41] <pihhan> brett: is that so hard read the name below button?
[11:41] <brett> pihhan: huh?
[11:41] <pihhan> brett: i dont know how your button is called, as i have czech localization
[11:42] <pihhan> just push that damn rotated arrows button
[11:42] <brett> pihhan: fetch updates? i pushed it
[11:42] <BrightEyes_> brett which sources i should add?
[11:42] <brett> BrightEyes_: huh? i don't know?
[11:42] <pihhan> BrightEyes_: dont know about sources for kubuntu
[11:42] <momal> BrightEyes_: post your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca for me
[11:43] <momal> brett:  http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=desktopasofnow1du9.jpg <--
[11:43] <momal> that fetch updates button
[11:43] <pihhan> BrightEyes_: but there is debian-multimedia at http://www.debian-multimedia.org/
[11:43] <pihhan> might or might not work, dont know :)
[11:44] <brett> momal: yeah i pushed it.... trem still doesnt apear
[11:44] <momal> brett: can you repost your sources.list for me again how it is right now
[11:44] <brett> momal: ok
[11:44] <momal> mplayer is in the reps so it should show up for him
[11:45] <brett> momal: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/246567
[11:45] <Chameleon22> i rebooted, not sure what happened before but all of the sda devices went mssing and now none of the USB devices (usb drive, usb flash drive, ipod) are loading - any suggestions?
[11:46] <momal> brett: --
[11:46] <momal> gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv 437D05B5
[11:46] <momal> gpg --export --armor 437D05B5 | sudo apt-key add -
[11:46] <momal> --
[11:46] <momal> brett: run those 2 lines in console
[11:46] <brett> momal: just type that into the console?
[11:46] <brett> momal: ok
[11:46] <houssem_> which command to know the space available on my partitions ??
[11:47] <pihhan> df -h in console
[11:47] <houssem_> thanks
[11:49] <brett> momal: that second line is one whole command right? not two different commands?
[11:49] <brett> momal: i ran it and it said no ultimatlely trusted keys found
[11:49] <ehird> okay, why isn't kontact in kmenu?
[11:50] <brett> momal: the first command seemed to do something without error... there was a warning but no error
[11:50] <momal> yea thats fine.. the second line is 2 commands but its meant to be put on 1 line when you type it
[11:50] <momal> ok now
[11:50] <momal> type | sudo apt-get update | and if you get any errors post the erros onto paste bin for me
[11:50] <brett> momal: type the | before sudo as well?
[11:51] <momal> no
[11:51] <momal> just
[11:51] <momal> sudo apt-get update
[11:51] <brett> ok running it
[11:51] <noelvis> hello all
[11:51] <brett> getting some errors but still running
[11:52] <momal> yea then copy everything it says onto http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/
[11:52] <brett> momal: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/246573
[11:53] <ehird> :/
[11:53] <momal> ahh crap
[11:53] <momal> close adept :p
[11:53] <noelvis> running XP+Kubuntu: How do I create a bulletproof bootdisk/cd?
[11:53] <brett> momal: oh ...heh
[11:53] <momal> then sudo apt-get update again
[11:53] <brett> momal: ok
[11:53] <brett> momal: looks like it is running a little better this time
[11:54] <brett> momal: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/246577
[11:55] <momal> garhh.. im outta ideas... as to why its not connecting at all
[11:56] <brett> momal: hmm
[11:56] <momal> its as if its not getting netconnection
[11:56] <brett> momal: linux is confusing... i was just about to reinstall and hope it fixes something
[11:56] <momal> ping google.com <- put that in konsole and if you get some packets recived you have the net fine
[11:56] <realfolkblues> hey whats the linux version of ipconfig?
[11:57] <momal> realfoldblues: ifconfig
[11:57] <brett> momal: yup pinging fine
[11:57] <momal> realfolkblues:**
[11:57] <noelvis> how do I make a startup disk?
[11:59] <realfolkblues> momal: ?
[11:59] <momal> ifconfig
[11:59] <realfolkblues> momal: thx
[12:00] <typecast> noelvis: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=6747.new
[12:00] <brett> momal: do you think the reinstall might get it to work?
[12:00] <momal> you could try... but i don't think it would but if its not trouble you could try that
[12:01] <brett> yeah no trouble... just installed it this morning
[12:01] <it06158_> i installed xmms and it doesnt recoginize the fonts!!! what can i do?? when i right click for the menus i can't read anything
[12:03] <brett> momal: thanks for the help... i downloaded the distro again... i think this is a slightly different version... might work
[12:03] <joe3k> brett: can you point your browser to http://archive.ubuntu.com/ ?
[12:04] <brett> joe3k: ok
[12:04] <joe3k> brett: does it work?
[12:04] <brett> joe3k: yup
[12:04] <momal> brett: you might want to download kubuntu edgy and use that if your going to reinstall.
[12:04] <joe3k> brett: do you have http proxy configured in your browser?
[12:04] <brett> momal: i think that is the distro i just downloaded
[12:05] <youser> i have the most ridiculous problem ever
[12:05] <brett> joe3k: i dont know
[12:05] <youser> its ridiculous
[12:05] <joe3k> brett: hm than probably not :)
[12:05] <momal> joe3k: he was able to ping google.com fine from the console so...
[12:05] <joe3k> well i'd check it anyway
[12:06] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[12:06] <joe3k> brett: do you use konq or firefox?
[12:06] <momal> youser: you should just scream then say your problem :p
[12:06] <brett> joe3k: kon
[12:06] <realfolkblues> :( i cant get my wireless to connect it did it once and now it's beaing mean to me
[12:06] <joe3k> brett: so go plz to settings / proxy
[12:06] <brett> joe3k: but plan on switching once i get everything working
[12:06] <joe3k> brett: settings -> konq settings ->proxy
[12:06] <youser> i cant  log into amsn or gaim " wrong username or password" for amsn and "unable to authenticate .net passport" for gaim
[12:07] <momal> what about kopete?
[12:07] <brett> joe3k: ok
[12:07] <youser> im using a gmail account that i got a .net passport with so i email microsoft they eail me back saying i can use msn, all .net passport log ins
[12:07] <realfolkblues> i can see networks but cant connect to them got any ideas anyone?
[12:07] <momal> youser: try using kopete and tell me what happens
[12:07] <youser> whats kopete?
[12:08] <xsacha> IM program
[12:08] <youser> alright ill go dl it
[12:08] <xsacha> and a damn good one
[12:08] <xsacha> comes preinstalled
[12:08] <realfolkblues> xsacha! hey dude
[12:08] <youser> is it in synaptic?
[12:08] <momal> its like gaim it has pretty much ever protocol in it
[12:08] <xsacha> you have it.. i think
[12:08] <brett> joe3k: what next
[12:08] <momal> if you have kde.. it would have gone in by default im pretty sure
[12:08] <momal> K>internet>kopete
[12:08] <joe3k> brett: what is selected? direct connection?
[12:09] <brett> joe3k: yes
[12:09] <youser> i have dapper gnome
[12:09] <dinosaur-rus> is there alsa vevelopment package?
[12:09] <joe3k> ok
[12:09] <brett> joe3k: connect to internet directly
[12:09] <youser> i can log onto my msn account fine but not my gmail .net passport?
[12:09] <realfolkblues> xsacha: got a little time?
[12:09] <youser> riridulous
[12:10] <momal> can you login to the .net passport on www.passport.net ?
[12:10] <momal> the gmail one
[12:10] <youser> i can log into my gmail
[12:10] <xsacha> busy, studying
[12:10] <youser> ill check pasport.net though to make sure
[12:10] <realfolkblues> xsacha:aww ok
[12:10] <joe3k> brett: can you try wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/dapper/Release.gpg
[12:10] <joe3k> brett: in cmd line
[12:11] <momal> if you can login to www.passport.net with it then something wrong at your end if you can't its a microsoft problem.
[12:11] <brett> joe3k: ok did that
[12:11] <joe3k> brett: did it work?
[12:11] <brett> joe3k: i think so
[12:11] <joe3k> brett: you should have Release.gpg in your current dir, which you can safely remove :)
[12:11] <youser> ahh i think my gmail.net password is diff then regular gmail pw
[12:11] <youser> which i dont remember being
[12:11] <brett> joe3k: ok
[12:12] <brett> momal: i am almost done burning edgy and i am going to try it once it is done
[12:12] <youser> fucking microsoft!!arrgghh
[12:12] <youser> lol
[12:12] <joe3k> brett: well seems apt is somehow misconfigured
[12:12] <momal> lol.. what ever you have set in the .netpassport when you signed up for it and selected to use your gmail account you need to use that pw.... just run the forgot password and you should beable to get it to email like a reset password link to your gmail email
[12:13] <momal> !language
[12:13] <ubotu> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[12:13] <youser> whoops
[12:13] <brett> joe3k: yes it is definatly wrong somewhere
[12:13] <joe3k> brett: it can't download the packages though the connection is actually working
[12:13] <dinosaur-rus> !alsa
[12:13] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[12:13] <dinosaur-rus> !alsa-dev
[12:13] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about alsa-dev - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:13] <brett> joe3k: yeah it seems that way but the connection is fine
[12:13] <momal> !info alsa-dev
[12:13] <ubotu> Package alsa-dev does not exist in any distro I know
[12:13] <brett> joe3k: i really think the reinstall might work
[12:13] <dinosaur-rus> oh
[12:14] <momal> dinosaur-rus: its prob under a dif name
[12:14] <brett> joe3k: unless you have more ideas i will log off now and try a fresh install with a new cd
[12:14] <dinosaur-rus> !info libalsa
[12:14] <ubotu> Package libalsa does not exist in any distro I know
[12:14] <joe3k> brett: good luck ;-)
[12:14] <brett> joe3k: thanks
[12:15] <brett> momal: thanks again
[12:15] <momal> !info libasound2
[12:15] <brett> see you guys later
[12:15] <ubotu> libasound2: ALSA library. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.11-7ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 316 kB, installed size 1120 kB
[12:15] <momal> ^_-
[12:15] <youser> whooooo
[12:15] <momal> there is also libasound2-dev
[12:15] <realfolkblues> can somone help me with my wireless beaing funny
[12:16] <dinosaur-rus> momal: oh, thx a lot! that seems to be what I was looking for
[12:16] <momal> no probs
[12:21] <kraut> moin
[12:25] <Carbon_Monoxide> hmm... I know I'm not asking the right question here. But anyone know any IRC channels that talk about DDoS(Dsitributed Denial of Service) attacks?
[12:27] <realfolkblues> #wireless
[12:27] <Carbon_Monoxide> realfolkblues: Do you mean #wireless channel talks about DDoS?
[12:27] <realfolkblues> no
[12:27] <Carbon_Monoxide> lol
[12:28] <realfolkblues> sorry was tryingt o join it
[12:28] <realfolkblues> Carbon_Monoxide I'll talk about it with you if you fix my wireless
[12:39] <pablo__> hi everybody, any one knows about why alsa is not being update on edgy?
[12:47] <kent_> hi peeps
[12:47] <kent_> can somone help me upgrade to Amarok 1.4.4
[12:48] <nickste> is there anyway to get AMD64 codecs for MPlayer?
[12:48] <till> jemand da der deutsch spricht?
[12:49] <till> nobody who can speak german?
[12:51] <kent_> nickste: use automatrix it will install them for you
[12:51] <nickste> thanks
[12:51] <till> sorry. can anybody help me with vmware workstation?
[12:52] <till> i dont know how to install it.
[12:52] <blackrider> siema
[12:52] <blackrider> hello
[12:52] <nickste> !automatrix
[12:52] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about automatrix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[12:53] <blackrider> how to install skype in ubuntu 6.06 64 bit ?
[12:53] <nickste> kent_: what is automatrix, and where do I get it?
[12:54] <nickste> don't worry, I think u mis-spelt it :)
[12:55] <kent_> nickste: http://getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Installation&Itemid=38
[12:55] <blackrider> skype is only for debian i386 :/
[12:56] <snpz> blackrider
[12:56] <snpz> ???
[12:56] <blackrider> thx for link
[12:56] <kent_> blackrider: you could compile it from source or is it not open to the public?
[12:56] <snpz> is there a problem to install .deb package?
[12:57] <kent_> can somone help me upgrade to Amarok 1.4.4 i'm a little stuck
[12:57] <snpz> u are trying to compile it from source?
[12:58] <snpz> kent_
[12:58] <blackrider> dpkg -i --force-architecture skype_1.2.0.18-2_i386.deb
[12:59] <kent_> snpz: no i just wanna get teh package but i cant seem to do so i was doing this page http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.4.4.php
[01:01] <snpz> kent_, there everything is written
[01:02] <snpz> add apt source
[01:03] <snpz> add apt-key
[01:03] <snpz> and sudo apt-get update
[01:03] <kent_> snpz: i did that but what now?
[01:03] <snpz> and sudo apt-get upgrade amarok i think
[01:06] <snpz> kent_, it works for me
[01:06] <kent_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:06] <kent_> still says 1.4.3
[01:07] <snpz> The following packages will be upgraded:
[01:07] <snpz>   amarok amarok-xine
[01:07] <snpz> 2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[01:07] <snpz> Need to get 17,6MB of archives.
[01:07] <kent_> i dont get that
[01:07] <snpz> imported key?
[01:07] <snpz> added repository?
[01:07] <kent_> i'll start over
[01:07] <snpz> did sudo apt-get update
[01:08] <snpz> did apt-get upgrade amarok
[01:08] <snpz> ?
[01:08] <dinosaur-rus> why there's no Assistant for Qt4?
[01:09] <kent_> whats the command to add?
[01:09] <snpz> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:10] <snpz> add this line below
[01:10] <snpz> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-144 edgy main
[01:10] <snpz> ehmm, u are using kubuntu 6.10?
[01:10] <snpz> edgy?
[01:11] <dinosaur-rus> snpz: sudo isn't recommended for GUI apps
[01:11] <dinosaur-rus> snpz: instead, use kdesu
[01:11] <snpz> ok, no big difference
[01:12] <kent_> snpz: should i remove teh amarok line for dapper main?
[01:12] <snpz> you are using dapper?
[01:12] <kent_> snpz: no
[01:12] <kent_> 6.10
[01:13] <snpz> so where is the problem?
[01:13] <kent_> it's got deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-latest dapper main should i remove this line?
[01:13] <snpz> yes
[01:13] <snpz> ehmm
[01:13] <snpz> u can try to change dapper to edgy
[01:13] <kent_> snpz: ok now what?
[01:14] <intelikey> !upgrade
[01:14] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[01:14] <snpz> kent_, add this line to your sources.list file
[01:14] <snpz> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-144 edgy main
[01:14] <kent_> snpz: done now what?
[01:14] <snpz> save the file
[01:14] <kent_> did
[01:15] <kent_> back in command
[01:15] <snpz> import key
[01:15] <snpz> wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[01:15] <snpz>  sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[01:15] <snpz> sudo apt-get update
[01:15] <snpz> sudo apt-get upgrade amarok
[01:16] <kent_> yay it' works!
[01:16] <kent_> thanks a bunch
[01:16] <snpz> ;)
[01:17] <kent_> snpz: you rock :D
[01:17] <snpz> mhehe
[01:17] <aimtrainer> hi! I need some help with my wireless. I have a dlink 520+ with a acx100 chipset. Im not really sure which file/ driver to use here: http://acx100.erley.org/
[01:17] <snpz> aimtrainer, is this chip supported?
[01:17] <snpz> in kernel i mean
[01:18] <aimtrainer> snpz: I think so: I m about to use this tut: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/acx100
[01:19] <aimtrainer> but Im stuck with the first step .. downloading the correct driver ^^
[01:19] <kent_> aimtrainer: just grab the cd that came with the card
[01:19] <snpz> aimtrainer, what does uname -r says?
[01:20] <aimtrainer> snpz: daniel@daniel:~$ uname -r
[01:20] <aimtrainer> 2.6.17-10-generic
[01:21] <aimtrainer> kent_: I dont think I still have the cd
[01:21] <snpz> sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[01:21] <snpz> should work
[01:21] <xwolf-> yay! i also had problems using adept to update. now linux wont start, something about usplash couldnt find a theme for 640x480
[01:22] <xwolf-> perhaps it`s not the only broken package, too.
[01:23] <snpz> xwolf-, maybe your xorg.conf is broken
[01:23] <snpz> ?
[01:24] <snpz> aimtrainer, download this one
[01:24] <snpz> http://acx100.erley.org/acx-20060521.tar.bz2
[01:24] <aimtrainer> thanks snpz!!
[01:24] <snpz> use the manual u posted
[01:24] <xwolf-> snpz: i dont know. but it stops right there at usplash error.
[01:25] <snpz> and everything should work
[01:25] <snpz> xwolf-, try to push LAlt+Ctrl+F1
[01:26] <snpz> u will get to terminal
[01:26] <snpz> LAlt+Ctrl+F7 back to graphical
[01:26] <snpz> in terminal mode try to run startx
[01:26] <xwolf-> no, i wont get to terminal. because THERE is the usplash error message, nothing else
[01:26] <skipjack> can somone tell me who I can register me for Jabber.org ?
[01:27] <xwolf-> in f7 there`s only one single line, something about apci
[01:27] <xwolf-> acpi or some sort.
[01:28] <intelikey> xwolf- cant get to a console?    shift+pg-up & ctrl+alt+f2 & ctrl+alt+f1     ?
[01:29] <xwolf-> intelikey: no, i cant.
[01:29] <xwolf-> what i did to get to a console was adding init=/bin/bash to grub
[01:30] <xwolf-> in the kernel line
[01:30] <intelikey> xwolf- boot with vga=0x0f05   will get you to a console without having to be init.
[01:30] <intelikey> or shall i say "should" get you there.
[01:31] <xwolf-> well, will give it a try.
[01:31] <intelikey> xwolf- also add  splash=silent
[01:31] <xwolf-> anything else
[01:31] <xwolf-> ?
[01:32] <intelikey> quiet
[01:32] <xwolf-> all in the kernel line, right?
[01:32] <intelikey> yes...   thats all i can think of off hand.  :)
[01:32] <xwolf-> right. lemme try.
[01:34] <intelikey> frame buffering.... even when it works, it doesn't work.
[01:49] <ubuntu__> hi everyone ... here's my problem ... i made a mistake by raising my monitor resolution to 1280x1024 ... but my monitor says that the refresh rate is too high .. so i cannot see anything on the screen ... i cannot see the login box ... i know i have to edit the resolution manually by modifying /etc/X11/xorg.conf ... but i cannot get to it (on my ext3 partition) even with the LIVE Kubuntu CD.. help!
[01:50] <ubuntu__> my monitor shows an error when X starts .. even before i can login!
[01:50] <Gecko> Hey there. My box runs really bad. free -m reports of about 150 mb free when I'm not doing anything. I have 1GB ram in total, which I would like to consider sufficient for Linux and KDE. How can I see what's been eating my memory?
[01:51] <intelikey> ubuntu__ ctrl+alt+f1
[01:51] <ubuntu__> ty intelikey
[01:51] <intelikey> Gecko nothing is eating your memory.
[01:52] <Gecko> intelikey: please explain that
[01:52] <intelikey> allocated != used
[01:52] <Gecko> intelikey: Mem:          1011        831        179 <- first collumn is total, next is _used_  last is free
[01:53] <intelikey> Gecko yes and you are reading the wrong line.
[01:53] <intelikey> look at the second.
[01:53] <intelikey> the +/- buffered
[01:53] <Gecko> intelikey: ahh
[01:54] <Gecko> intelikey: well, that doesn't explain why all my games started lagging today, but thanks for the explanation :)
[01:55] <intelikey> as to why it's so slow, some process is probably malfunctioning (not working propperly and thus looping and using lots of cpu power)   use   top
[01:55] <dinosaur-rus> !assistant
[01:55] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about assistant - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:55] <dinosaur-rus> !info qt3-assistant
[01:55] <ubotu> qt3-assistant: The Qt3 assistant application. In component universe, is optional. Version 3:3.3.6-3ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 233 kB, installed size 620 kB
[01:55] <dinosaur-rus> !info qt4-assistant
[01:56] <ubotu> Package qt4-assistant does not exist in any distro I know
[01:56] <Kals> How do i open konqueror as root?
[01:56] <intelikey> Kals kdesu konqueror
[01:57] <intelikey> or terminal; sudo -i konqueror
[01:58] <[joemax] > hello
[01:58] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[01:58] <[joemax] > good to be here, I think
[01:58] <joe3k> heh
[01:58] <dinosaur-rus> :)
[01:58] <joe3k> the world is full of joes
[01:58] <[joemax] > hahaha
[01:59] <[joemax] > yeah
[01:59] <[joemax] > i can see that
[01:59] <[joemax] > anyway...
[01:59] <[joemax] > is there such a thing as a kde app that scans cd's
[01:59] <joe3k> yesterday joe_ was here as well
[01:59] <[joemax] > i mean ,surface scan
[01:59] <[joemax] > that's good to know...
[02:00] <joe3k> i know only for cd catalogizing
[02:01] <[joemax] > hmm...
[02:01] <intelikey> [joemax]  kde app.... prolly not.  not that i know of.  but  badblocks /dev/cdrom   should do that.
[02:01] <joe3k> btw does anyone know some better replacement for cdcat
[02:01] <[joemax] > badblocks eh
[02:01] <ubuntu___> ciao a tutti
[02:01] <[joemax] > so this one just scans the cdrom, right?
[02:02] <ubuntu___> qualche italiano in linea_
[02:02] <intelikey> [joemax]  man badblocks
[02:02] <intelikey> to read what it does ^
[02:03] <[joemax] > says here i shouldn't run this directly
[02:04] <ehird> hmm
[02:05] <ehird> say i wanted to remove file FOO and it's many directories under .
[02:05] <ehird> how would I do that? rm -r FOO doesn't work
[02:05] <intelikey> badblocks is not a cd* blah, badblocks is a disk scanning tool, and cd = compact disk.    badblocks was actually writen with floppies in mind....  but works on most if not all media.
[02:05] <joe3k> [joemax] : the man page says you shouldn't if you feed it into e2fsck or similar
[02:06] <joe3k> [joemax] : i'd just run it
[02:06] <joe3k> [joemax] : but umount possible the fs first
[02:06] <joe3k> -e +y
[02:07] <pistooli> hi all
[02:07] <intelikey> yeah it don't like to run on mounted fs's  but can be forced too.
[02:09] <[joemax] > umount it...
[02:09] <intelikey> [joemax]  if that was a question. the answer is yes.  :)
[02:09] <joe3k> hm interesting by clicking on a cd icon you can only eject it, not umount
[02:10] <[joemax] > yeah...dunno it that's a bug or a feature...
[02:10] <intelikey> cli umount /dev/cdrom
[02:10] <joe3k> [joemax] : but i think if you choose "nothing" after insering it doesn't get mounted, ie it'll be umounted
[02:10] <intelikey> oh yeah yall are using kde which is really a pain about umounting cds....
[02:11] <intelikey> we ignore me on this one...
[02:11] <joe3k> intelikey: well i press f12 and have console so i really don't see any problem here :)
[02:12] <basquiat> hi! is there some way to configure kmilo for my thinkpad on kubuntu 6.10? I have no entry in kde's control center under "System Administration" - so is the only way to get an OSD for brightness and thinklight tpb with xosd?
[02:12] <[joemax] > joe3k: so much for functionality :)
[02:12] <[joemax] > ok, i ran the badblocks (umounted the cd first)...
[02:13] <[joemax] > then it dumps this: 0, 1
[02:13] <[joemax] > lemme chek
[02:13] <joe3k> [joemax] : well the "dummy" user isn't probably supposed to know anything about mounting, but hey what about the advanced ones :)
[02:13] <pat_> Gimp love =D
[02:14] <intelikey> joe3k the problem (was when i messed with kde) that the little icon that shows there is a disk in the tray also keeps the thing busy so you can't umount it without first ejecting it from the kde icon...
[02:15] <intelikey> or run a root eject   on it which makes kde cry.
[02:15] <joe3k> intelikey: tried in now; if after inserting you select "do nothing" in the dialog, it won't mount
[02:15] <joe3k> intelikey: so you have umounted cd
[02:15] <P-a-gman> Anyone know if Firefox 2.0 is coming with the next update?
[02:16] <joe3k> P-a-gman: it's already in edgy, are you using dapper?
[02:17] <P-a-gman> joe3k > yes.
[02:17] <joe3k> intelikey: well you can turn the stuff off, or select do nothing as default
[02:17] <intelikey> joe3k or use twm  lol
[02:17] <joe3k> P-a-gman: then probably only via backports but i'm not sure about it
[02:17] <joe3k> intelikey: hehe
[02:17] <P-a-gman> okay :/
[02:17] <BluesKaj> Howdy all ! :)
[02:18] <P-a-gman> it's my friend that wants it xD and he's a jerk at linux.
[02:18] <joe3k> P-a-gman: did you look into dapper-backports requests?
[02:18] <[joemax] > badblocks returns 0 1
[02:18] <P-a-gman> Noooo....
[02:18] <[joemax] > are those the blocks that are...damaged?
[02:18] <P-a-gman> I just found a tutorial on Debianadmin
[02:18] <P-a-gman> It is basicly debian <.<
[02:19] <ehird> No idea?
[02:19] <intelikey> [joemax]  that's a block number.  head cylendar     or reverse that maybe... i forget which.
[02:19] <[joemax] > hmm...
[02:19] <joe3k> ehird: -f but be careful
[02:19] <joe3k> ehird: rm -rf
[02:19] <ehird> joe3k:
[02:19] <ehird> yes
[02:20] <ehird> i did rm -rf cover.jpg
[02:20] <ehird> but there's no cover.jpg's in ./music
[02:20] <ehird> just in ./music/artist/album/cover.jpg
[02:20] <[joemax] > intelikey: i see...
[02:20] <joe3k> ehird: hm you have to specify the full path
[02:20] <joe3k> ehird: or use find
[02:20] <P-a-gman> damn torrents slowing me down. <.<
[02:20] <[joemax] > the specs don't say what format the output's supposed to look lke lol
[02:20] <joe3k> ehird: find . -name "cover.jpg" -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f
[02:20] <joe3k> ehird: or something like that :)
[02:21] <ehird> that seemed to work
[02:21] <joe3k> ehird: but beware the command removes all cover.jpgs recursive from your curr dir
[02:21] <joe3k> ok too late anyway :)
[02:22] <ehird> calc database
[02:22] <ehird> oops
[02:22] <ehird> wrong channel
[02:23] <intelikey> [joemax]  hmmm according to the man page this version of badblocks outputs block numbers  so your guess was right....   sorry for the bad info.
[02:24] <[joemax] > hmm that's ok
[02:24] <[joemax] > still stumped as to what it means though...
[02:24] <[joemax] > so, blocks[0] , and blocks[1]  could be busted..?
[02:25] <joe3k> P-a-gman: well can't find firefox 2 in dapper-backports
[02:25] <joe3k> P-a-gman: can either request it at https://launchpad.net/products/dapper-backports/+bugs or simply install the vanilla firefox
[02:25] <pistooli> a humble question: does anybody know where I can find Kubuntu CD/DVD cover art? was searching google but no luck. many thanks...
[02:26] <joe3k> pistooli: i found one in the dapper installation in ~/Examples recently
[02:26] <[joemax] > oh this solves it:
[02:26] <[joemax] > Checking blocks 0 to 2
[02:27] <[joemax] > Checking for bad blocks (read-only test): 0             0/              2
[02:27] <[joemax] > 1
[02:27] <[joemax] > done
[02:27] <[joemax] > Pass completed. 2 bad blocks found.
[02:27] <P-a-gman> What is the vanilla firefox?
[02:27] <dhq> hey all
[02:27] <dhq> fdoving: i cant uninstall any package
[02:27] <joe3k> P-a-gman: i meant that one you can download from official site
[02:28] <P-a-gman> Oh. Yeah i did.
[02:28] <joe3k> P-a-gman: that'll do as well
[02:28] <P-a-gman> *finds tut on how to install it*
[02:28] <joe3k> P-a-gman: you should however uninstall the old one first :)
[02:28] <pistooli> joe3k: thanks... that one is for ubuntu and 6.06 unfortunatelly... but thanks anyway...
[02:29] <intelikey> [joemax]  from man badblocks -b block-size "Specify the size of blocks in bytes.  The default is 1024."  && section -o output_file "format of this file is suitable for use by the -l option in e2fsck(8) or mke2fs(8)."  and man mke2fs section "  -l filename"  explains it.
[02:29] <P-a-gman> sure.
[02:29] <P-a-gman> But i found one on debianadmin
[02:29] <P-a-gman> http://www.debianadmin.com/install-firefox2-in-ubuntu-and-list-of-recomended-addons.html
[02:29] <dhq> can any one help me on uninstalling a package cauz i get errors
[02:30] <intelikey> [joemax]  in laymans terms a block is 1042 bites of the disk serface that was scanned.
[02:30] <joe3k> dhq: what error
[02:30] <intelikey> err 1024
[02:30] <intelikey> = 1k
[02:30] <dhq> joe3k: well i will paste it on pistebin
[02:31] <intelikey> [joemax]  that assumes you didn't set the block size with the -b option.
[02:31] <joe3k> i think for cd the block size should be 2048, shouldn't it
[02:32] <joe3k> that's at least the block size for iso fs
[02:32] <MRMorefield-ft> what is the kernel source tree?
[02:32] <intelikey> [joemax]  i sujest scanning a known good disk.
[02:32] <dhq> joe3k: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31202/\
[02:32] <joe3k> MRMorefield-ft: actually kernel sources
[02:32] <oslo> existe t-il un krfb like pour windows ? pour pouvoir me connecter sous ma kubuntu a distance
[02:32] <MRMorefield-ft> yes
[02:33] <[joemax] > oh well...the cd ehcks out anyway :)
[02:33] <BluesKaj> !fr
[02:33] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[02:33] <[joemax] > *checks
[02:33] <MRMorefield-ft> i want to install the new nvidia driver
[02:33] <MRMorefield-ft> but the installer cant detect the kernel source tree
[02:33] <joe3k> dhq: honestly, no idea, never had X errors in apt-get from cmd line
[02:34] <joe3k> dhq: have to try someone else :-/
[02:34] <intelikey> [joemax]  i just scaned a blank it returned NO badblocks... so i mentioned checking a known to be good disk.
[02:34] <dhq> joe3k: anyways thanx
[02:34] <joe3k> oslo: i think ultravnc is what you're looking for
[02:35] <joe3k> oslo: http://ultravnc.sourceforge.net/
[02:35] <intelikey> [joemax]  actually blank but formated ^  i don't think you can scan a new cdr
[02:36] <gurumeditationer> How do I get rid of this x screen saver? it doesn't seem to matter that I've picked a different screen saver in the display settings it always does the white X one
[02:36] <[joemax] > intelikey: ok thanks...
[02:36] <BluesKaj> remote desktop -Krfb desktop sharing perhaps?... oslo
[02:37] <[joemax] > intelikey: i think it doesn't scan it as good...i got to burn an iso just fine :)
[02:37] <intelikey> ok i'm went.  C++ yall
[02:37] <[joemax] > intelikey: but thanks for the help
[02:37] <Jucato> bye intelikey :)
[02:41] <qbit> anyone know about Xen support in edgy? - specifically if cpu has to be one of the new ones with new virtualization features, or can it even work on older such as a Sempron 2800+?
[02:42] <oslo> joe3k> i will try
[02:43] <visik_> latest avahi update broken my system
[02:43] <visik_> to be exactly adept doesn't handle dist-upgrades
[02:45] <joe3k> am i the only person here witch bunch of cds wishing to catalogize them under linux?
[02:50] <abattoir> joe3k: what do you mean by 'catalogize' ?
[02:50] <joe3k> visik_: you have to probably switch to cmd and try apt-get -f install
[02:50] <honest> Hello all
[02:51] <joe3k> abattoir: create a cd catalogoue, something cdcat and katalog does
[02:51] <joe3k> abattoir: katalog 0.3 in edgy fails at basic task - add /media/cdrom0 to catalogue :)
[02:51] <honest> i was wondering, if there a command to reset xorg settings, for some reason when i move windows about the screen they sorta jump, kinda like a windows machine before the video card drive has been installed
[02:51] <abattoir> honest: 'sudo dexconf'
[02:52] <honest> abattoir: shall i restart x?
[02:52] <honest> abattoir: after running the command?
[02:52] <abattoir> honest: yup
[02:52] <Jucato> abattoir!!!
[02:53] <honest> abattoir:  is there a command to restart x?
[02:53] <abattoir> hey Jucato :)
[02:53] <Jucato> honest: save everything you need to, then ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:53] <abattoir> honest: ctrl+alt+backspace...
[02:53] <Cerebro> Hallo everybody
[02:53] <honest> abattoir: N1, brb
[02:53] <kent_> i'm haveing trouble getting amarok to see my zen xtra can somone help me? i'm looking at this http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:MTP
[02:54] <abattoir> honest: worked?
[02:54] <honest> abattoir: back.
[02:54] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: which version of AmaroK are you running?
[02:54] <honest> abattoir: nah, it still does the same, do u know what i mean about a M$ box without the driver installed?
[02:54] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: 1.4.4
[02:55] <fildo> can anyone tell me about wifi, i get my wifi associated with the AP . link quality is good . but the noise level is -45db..
[02:55] <honest> abattoir: kinda like refreash rate of 2
[02:55] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: have you libmtp installed?
[02:55] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: yes and libmtp sees the player but i'm not sure what to do now
[02:55] <abattoir> honest: yes, the settings have been 'reset' to default, you should modify them to suit your needs
[02:56] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: oops that was for you
[02:56] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: in amaroK, click 'media device'
[02:56] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: and?
[02:57] <fildo> can anyone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31206/
[02:58] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: what is displayed when you plug the Zen in ?
[02:58] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: nothing in amarok, the desktop shows a camra icon
[02:59] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: a camera icon, curious
[02:59] <fildo> sorry this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31207/
[03:00] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: have you installed libusb 0.1.12 in your box?
[03:00] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: or higher
[03:01] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: let me check
[03:01] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: k :)
[03:02] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: libusb 0.1 -4 is on it
[03:02] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: libusb 0.1.14?
[03:03] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: no
[03:03] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: libusb 0.1 -4 is on it
[03:03] <Bubba_Gump> ah
[03:03] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: says adept
[03:03] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: is there an option for an Adept upgrade?
[03:04] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: says everything is up to date
[03:04] <Bubba_Gump> k
[03:04] <Bubba_Gump> http://libusb.sourceforge.net/download.html#stable
[03:04] <honest> abattoir: thing is, i can modify them but it doesnt stop this pre driverinstal windows effect.. any ideas mate?
[03:05] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: it's a tar, the latest libusb
[03:05] <honest> abattoir: would it be worth installing the nvidia driver?
[03:05] <e1mer> hi all
[03:05] <abattoir> honest: what do you exactly mean by 'pre driver install windows effect' ?
[03:05] <abattoir> honest: hmm, yes
[03:05] <e1mer> anyone got a tool for converting wvdial.conf to kppp arguments?
[03:05] <abattoir> !nvidia | honest
[03:05] <ubotu> honest: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:05] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: ok i downloaded it now what?
[03:05] <abattoir> honest: are you using the 'nv' driver now?
[03:06] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: untar in a folder
[03:06] <honest> abattoir: Umm yeh i think so, let me check
[03:06] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: ok
[03:06] <honest> abattoir: it was usingthe NV it's now using the vesa, that could be the prob?
[03:07] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: and then compile and install
[03:07] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: how?
[03:07] <abattoir> honest: it was nv before you did sudo dexconf?
[03:07] <abattoir> honest: you still had that problem then right?
[03:07] <abattoir> (the reason you ran dexconf)
[03:08] <honest> abattoir: nah, i ran that command to try and fix the issue, then i realised i had now noticed it was the vesa, bthis is before athe command as well
[03:08] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: can you walk me through compuleing and stuff i've never done that
[03:08] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: sudo tar -xvzf <name of downloaded tar.gz>
[03:09] <abattoir> honest: oh ok, then try changing it to nv then
[03:09] <honest> abattoir: just restarting X
[03:10] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: cd libusb-0.1.12.tar.gz
[03:10] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: ./configure
[03:10] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: make
[03:10] <twosouls82> hello nice people :)
[03:10] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: sudo make install
[03:11] <Bubba_Gump> twosouls82: :D
[03:11] <twosouls82> :)
[03:11] <kent_> sudo make install
[03:11] <kent_> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[03:11] <klerfayt> how do you make screeshot of kdm? (login screen)
[03:11] <BluesKaj> mkdir first
[03:11] <Bubba_Gump> hmm
[03:12] <cox377> abattoir: This, is also honest, working on 2 machines
[03:12] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: i'm flumuxed
[03:12] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: normally this works
[03:12] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: hehe
[03:12] <abattoir> cox377: ok :)
[03:12] <sberla54> ciao ragazzi qualcuno mi aiuta con dei problemi di aggiornamento da dapper ad edgy, legati ad apt-get?
[03:12] <cox377> abattoir: changed that driver and its gone bad
[03:13] <abattoir> !it
[03:13] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[03:13] <cox377> it doesnt seem it will start x
[03:13] <abattoir> cox377: hmm, what error do you get?
[03:13] <abattoir> cox377: does changing it back to vesa start x ?
[03:13] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: are you running as root?
[03:13] <cox377> abattoir: shall try that now
[03:14] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: ./configure worked then
[03:14] <kent_> make
[03:14] <kent_> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[03:15] <cox377> abattoir: yup, that worked
[03:15] <kent_> Bubba_Gump: i've never run as root b4 only used sudo
[03:15] <cox377> abattoir: but still back to the pre driver issue
[03:15] <Bubba_Gump> kent_: i'm not sure on this...
[03:16] <abattoir> cox377: i guess it's best that you install the binary nvidia drivers
[03:16] <abattoir> cox377: do you want to do that?
[03:16] <dein> hihi
[03:17] <cox377> abattoir: yeh man, anything to get it running properly  : )
[03:17] <abattoir> ok
[03:17] <abattoir> you have the links right?
[03:17] <abattoir> !nvidia | cox377
[03:17] <ubotu> cox377: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:17] <cox377> abattoir: N1
[03:17] <cox377> abattoir: : )
[03:18] <slow-motion> hallo
[03:18] <twosouls82> I have a crappy BIOS, I can't seem to find out the IO port and the IRQ address of the Midi device on my soundcard, and no I don't use (and intend to) use Windows..  Is there a nifty tool for linux to get this info?
[03:19] <twosouls82> hallo slow-motion, alles goed? :P
[03:19] <warnet> hai
[03:19] <slow-motion> hi twosouls82
[03:19] <shanden> ..
[03:19] <shanden> .
[03:19] <shanden> ..
[03:19] <shanden> ...................................................................................................................................
[03:19] <LjL> shanden: ? stop
[03:19] <twosouls82> !abuse
[03:19] <ubotu> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[03:19] <shanden> ok
[03:19] <honest> abattoir: me again, what i did was run the NV without the direct something or other lol and it works
[03:19] <honest> abattoir: back to normal, cheers for that
[03:19] <shanden> sorry
[03:20] <twosouls82> np :)
[03:20] <shanden> ^_^'
[03:20] <abattoir> honest: oh, and the 'pre driver installation....blah blah' is gone? ;)
[03:20] <cox377> abattoir: yup
[03:20] <cox377> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:21] <cox377> i shall install that and see what happens, maybe i can get better rez
[03:21] <cox377> ;)
[03:21] <abattoir> cox377: oh cool
[03:21] <klerfayt> what I have to install to have command "import"?
[03:21] <abattoir> cox377: yeah, and you can run beryl too... and crash your system more often ;)
[03:22] <klerfayt> nv, answer is imagemagick
[03:23] <honest> abattoir: lol is it not recommened then?
[03:23] <abattoir> honest: no i didn't mean that
[03:23] <warnet> hai all
[03:23] <honest> abattoir: lol
[03:24] <abattoir> honest: i said once you have the nvidia driver(the new beta one actually), you can run beryl, and enjoy all the eyecandy goodness coupled w/ the occasional ever-so humbling crash ;)
[03:25] <honest> abattoir: ahhh i get yah
[03:28] <tommy> how to change the label of HDD FAT32 in kununtu desktop
[03:30] <kay> i have a USB-Headset can anyone tell me how i can install iton kubuntu?
[03:32] <kent_> ho do i open a knosle with admin rights so i can just do a bunch of stuff without sudo?
[03:33] <binary2k2> kent_: in konsole type: sudo su
[03:33] <kay> kent_: i think you hve do it in kubuntu everytime with sudo
[03:33] <kay> yes or this
[03:33] <kay> :-(
[03:33] <marios_s> Hello, I'm trying to use the kubuntu live boot loader. I've a kubuntu installed on /dev/hda. what's the command to boot? root=/dev/hda3 (linux part) doesn't work
[03:35] <kay> marios_s: maybe there where the boot partion is (for example (hda1))
[03:35] <LjL> binary2k2, kent_:  "sudo -i" is probably a better idea
[03:35] <binary2k2> LjL: it's the same thing really
[03:36] <marios_s> kay, sorry? The problem is windows overwrote grub and now I'd like to run linux using the cd as a boot loader, but I don't know the option
[03:36] <LjL> binary2k2, no, "sudo -i" sets environment variables to the right ones for root, "sudo su" doesn't.   "sudo su -" does, but then it still makes no sense to chain two commands (sudo and su), which essentially perform the same function
[03:36] <eL`iz> hai....
[03:37] <kay> mar#
[03:37] <kay> marios_s: ah i have the same problem last time
[03:37] <kay> its easy
[03:37] <kay> i can tell you
[03:37] <marios_s> than you :)
[03:37] <LjL> binary2k2: by the way, "sudo -s" is closer to "sudo su" (i.e. it doesn't set the environment)
[03:38] <kay> marios_s: you need a boot cd i had last time gentoo
[03:38] <kay> course it wroks fine
[03:38] <kay> you start it and you need a konsole
[03:39] <kay> there you have to put the commands
[03:39] <binary2k2> LjL: yeah, i'll have to refresh myself in man sudo :p
[03:39] <kay> mkdir /mnt/linux/
[03:39] <kay> mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/linux
[03:39] <kay> chrott /mnt/linux
[03:40] <kay> grub-install /dev/hda1
[03:40] <kay> this is all
[03:40] <marios_s> I tried
[03:40] <marios_s> but doesn't work
[03:40] <kay> this aLL?
[03:40] <marios_s> It tell me something like: couldn't gethostbname()
[03:40] <kay> ok
[03:40] <marios_s> yes.
[03:40] <kay> then you have the wrong partion hda3
[03:40] <kay> make somethig else
[03:40] <kay> make fdisk /dev/hda
[03:41] <kay> and look on the partion table
[03:41] <marios_s> fdisk -l says is hda3 : P
[03:41] <yamal> kay: "chrott" <-- typo
[03:41] <kay> ups yeah it have to be chroot
[03:41] <kay> thx yamal
[03:42] <kay> wai
[03:42] <kay> marios_s: you installed windows too???
[03:43] <marios_s> kay, yes
[03:43] <kay> marios_s: so windows installed him self only one the first partion on hda1
[03:43] <kay> marios_s: hm...
[03:44] <marios_s> that's the problem, but I wish to run ubuntu at least from live bootloader
[03:45] <aimtrainer> hi! Does anybody have experience with edgy and the ipw3945? I tried it with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=140085&page=2&highlight=ipw3945 script but t just won work :(
[03:45] <kay> marios_s: can you trie it  again??
[03:46] <marios_s> kay why ? :D
[03:46] <yamal> kay: also, if you want grub on the mbr, it should be /dev/hda not hda1 iirc
[03:47] <kay> marios_s: dont know mayb luck and it run but  i find a link maybe it cvan help you
[03:47] <kay> yamal: it seems to me you know it better then me so plz help him
[03:48] <yamal> marios_s: what are you currently using? live cd?
[03:48] <kay> marios_s: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1495057
[03:49] <marios_s> yamal, now I'm from windoes
[03:49] <kay> yamal: and i did it with hda1 and it works
[03:51] <marios_s> Do you think it's going to work if I reinstall ubuntu?
[03:52] <kay> marios_s: sure course grub will installed again
[03:53] <kay> marios_s: i have kubuntu cd too but as i used it i didnt work i use a gentoo live cd
[03:55] <yamal> marios_s: read the comment by "remmelt" on http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html
[03:56] <yamal> and you may have to use sudo with the grub command mentioned in step 3
[03:57] <kay> yamal: do you something know abut USB-headset , too?
[03:57] <yamal> not a thing :)
[03:57] <kay> lol k thx
[04:00] <marios_s> yamal, I'll give a try
[04:02] <yamal> marios_s: be sure to substitute the correct values for your situation, then it should work (I think ;)
[04:02] <marios_s> (I hope)
[04:02] <marios_s> just a sec : )
[04:07] <joe3k> freeflying: ?
[04:09] <magicmike> Any known problems updating to Edgy through the adept package manager?
[04:10] <shegman> can somebody tell me how to enable 3d in kubuntu
[04:10] <Jucato> magicmike: do not upgrade to Edgy using Adept
[04:10] <Jucato> !upgrade | magicmike
[04:10] <ubotu> magicmike: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[04:11] <magicmike> Thanks.
[04:12] <shegman> !libGL
[04:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about libGL - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:12] <Hawkwind> shegman: Install your nvidia/ati drivers
[04:12] <shegman> i have a intel blabla in my laptop
[04:13] <shegman> in suse the 3d driver worked. dont know how
[04:14] <magicmike> jucato: Is it worth the hassle to upgrade at this point?
[04:14] <Jucato> magicmike: depends on you really. if you need some packages that can only be found on edgy, or if you can risk the upgrade, why not. but if you must absolutely be stable, stick to Dapper
[04:14] <slow-motion> re
[04:15] <Jucato> although Edgy has been stable on my desktop
[04:15] <joe3k> well but few things seem not to work that well in edgy, today i discovered another one
[04:15] <twosouls82> please file a report
[04:15] <magicmike> jucato: I'm still trying to learn this thing and I've got 75% - 80% of my stuff working. I'll hold off. Thanks
[04:16] <joe3k> if i eg insert a cd, then in popup choose "open in new window" the window pops up but it's empty
[04:16] <joe3k> seems the device gets mounted only after the window pops up
[04:16] <twosouls82> joe3k: reload/refresh and it wont be empty
[04:16] <magicmike> edgy might make me edgy. LOL
[04:16] <joe3k> yeah i'll do, just need some time to check whether it doesn't exist already
[04:16] <joe3k> twosouls82: i know but it's not the expected behaviour i suppose
[04:17] <joe3k> i think it worked correctly in dapper
[04:17] <twosouls82> true :) but it isn't a severe bug.. you can still file it though, joe3k
[04:17] <joe3k> can maybe someone of you try it out now? :)
[04:18] <twosouls82> joe3k: I already meant to confirm it to you  :)
[04:18] <joe3k> hehe
[04:18] <joe3k> i'll fill that one
[04:19] <joe3k> i think i have to make me a todo list
[04:19] <twosouls82> :) great.. I simply don't have the time myself :$
[04:19] <twosouls82> hehehe joe3k
[04:19] <joe3k> twosouls82: me actually neither ;-)
[04:20] <BluesKaj> anyone here connected to a working windows network with a kubuntu box ?
[04:21] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: yes.. all linux boxes though, but using samba :P
[04:21] <heevmo> can anyone help me to make a new root user
[04:21] <BluesKaj> twosouls82, ok are you using komba as anetwork browser ?
[04:22] <khirr> !repository
[04:22] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:22] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: no sorry, either smb4k or konqueror
[04:23] <khirr> how can install repository to kmess in edgy? or mercury?
[04:26] <BluesKaj> ok twosouls82 , smb4k ?
[04:27] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: Smb4K is an SMB/CIFS share browser for KDE, what is it you need to know about it?
[04:27] <khirr> how can i ..?
[04:27] <joe3k> twosouls82: it's actually already there, bug 67863
[04:27] <nickste> how do I unbind shift + backspace from restarting xserver or whatever it does
[04:27] <khirr> !repository
[04:27] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[04:27] <Jucato> !kmess
[04:27] <ubotu> kmess: Instant messenger to use MSN on KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.3-2ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1067 kB, installed size 2620 kB
[04:27] <Jucato> !mercury
[04:27] <ubotu> mercury: A new logic/functional programming language. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.0.rotd.20040511-5 (edgy), package size 24708 kB, installed size 109984 kB
[04:28] <twosouls82> joe3k: good :) let's pray it will be troubleshooted someday soon.. but remember.. it is not severe\
[04:28] <Jucato> khirr: both kmess and mercury are in the universe repos. Just enable universe, and you can install them from Adept or apt-get
[04:28] <BluesKaj> twosouls82, this the error message i get from komba when i try to access files on the network windows pc .. smbmnt must be installed suid root for direct user mounts (1000,1000)
[04:28] <twosouls82> nice work joe3k
[04:28] <twosouls82> :)
[04:28] <khirr> just universe? o multiverse too?
[04:28] <joe3k> twosouls82: it's not yet confirmed so i think it needs a bit more traffic :)
[04:29] <khirr> is mercury msn?
[04:29] <joe3k> twosouls82: but i think it's not even minor problem, its kinda dumb to select open in new window and see empty window, istn't it
[04:29] <Jucato> khirr: mercury isn't msn. kmess does msn. just universe. have you tried MSN on Kopete?
[04:30] <twosouls82> joe3k: true but it it works, 'though not like it should :s
[04:31] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: the answers is on this page.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=219767
[04:31] <twosouls82> don't use setuid root unless you absolutely need to
[04:31] <twosouls82> (which is what you do need to do now)
[04:32] <twosouls82> setuid root, makes the program on which it has been set to be executed as root, eventhough you start it, hence root is the owner
[04:34] <khirr> but kmess run MSN, i've tried...
[04:34] <khirr> ive tried www.mercury.to too
[04:35] <Jucato> khirr: then you can install kmess. it's in universe
[04:35] <it4lia59> salut
[04:35] <khirr> but, now cant install, i dunno why...for that reason i'd like know if there is one repository for this
[04:35] <khirr> but, mercury msn?
[04:35] <BluesKaj> twosouls82, I don't have a prob with sudo ..it's just this particular proggie komba2, that gives me that message
[04:35] <twosouls82> bonsoir it4lia59 :)
[04:36] <it4lia59> je voudrai savoir si quelq'un a installer teamspeak sur la kubuntu ? svp
[04:36] <BluesKaj> I guess I should try to config smb4k
[04:36] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: you need to set 'setuid' on 'smbmnt', and you need to set the owner to be 'root', these actions together make 'smbmnt' get executed as root...  regardless of who runs the command
[04:37] <Hawkwind> !it | it4lia59
[04:37] <ubotu> it4lia59: Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:37] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: smb4k doesn't need it, so I prefer that one
[04:37] <it4lia59> ok sorry
[04:37] <Dr_willis> yep. got to set the suid bit on the 2 smb commands that smb4k uses.
[04:37] <BluesKaj> ok  twosouls82 , how do i get smb4k to work for me ?
[04:38] <twosouls82> it4lia59: isn't that French instead of Italian?
[04:38] <it4lia59> Any one has install teamspeak on kubuntu ?
[04:38] <twosouls82> ubotu | languages
[04:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about languages - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:38] <Dr_willis> -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root    8672 2006-07-11 09:28 smbmnt
[04:38] <Dr_willis> -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root    6088 2006-07-11 09:28 smbumount
[04:38] <BluesKaj> !it
[04:38] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[04:38] <BluesKaj> !fr
[04:38] <ubotu> Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[04:38] <twosouls82> :) BluesKaj
[04:39] <it4lia59> ok but I can speak english to
[04:39] <it4lia59> and I want to know if you have install teamspeak ?
[04:39] <twosouls82> Dr_willis: did you, can't recall I did too :P
[04:40] <Dr_willis> alway had to do it with ubuntu/kubuntu, many other disrtos have them suid allready i guess
[04:40] <Dr_willis> alternatve to smb4k is that fuse samba filesystem tool.
[04:40] <Dr_willis> or mount the shares from the fstab
[04:41] <khirr> how can i  view my kmess contact list for email, and not for "name"
[04:41] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, do I enter those commands in the terminal ?
[04:42] <BluesKaj> i have no idea what fstab is
[04:42] <twosouls82> :|
[04:42] <apokryphos> !fstab
[04:42] <ubotu> The /etc/fstab file lists all drives and partitions that are mounted on the system. See http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !partitions
[04:42] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  you may want to do some learning/reding of linux fundumentals. :)
[04:43] <Dr_willis> suid is a special 'permission' you set on executables
[04:43] <BluesKaj> spoken like a true teacher m Dr_willis :)
[04:43] <Dr_willis> sudo chmod +s /usr/bin/smbmnt
[04:43] <Dr_willis> will set the suid bit on that binary.. (as the 's' in what i pasted showed)
[04:43] <Dr_willis> -rwsr-sr-x 1 root root    8672 2006-07-11 09:28 smbmnt
[04:43] <Dr_willis> note the s 'rwSr'
[04:44] <Dr_willis> suiding things can be considered a potential security risk. :)
[04:44] <joe3k> twosouls82: may add your story to https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/67863
[04:45] <BluesKaj> well, it was an illegal option
[04:46] <twosouls82> joe3k: I will confirm your post by a little one too
[04:46] <BluesKaj> prolly not worth worrying about , i'll just boot into windows if i require any files from the network pc ...that system works
[04:47] <twosouls82> BluesKaj: you only learn Linux if you digg into it :)
[04:48] <BluesKaj> then i can access them on the ntfs partition if i need to
[04:49] <BluesKaj> well, I don't understand why I can print to the windows network from my linux box , but don't have access to files on the same pc that the printer is aconnected to ?
[04:51] <twosouls82> joe3k: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bug/67863 I did it at once. It's of my list now
[04:51] <twosouls82> joe3k: thanks for the efforts! cheers
[04:51] <joe3k> twosouls82: well now only to find someone who call tell us what it caused ;-)
[04:52] <bluszcz> how can i play music using second sound device?
[04:52] <twosouls82> joe3k: it seems to a Konqi bug to me, as it IS being mounted correctly, only not shown ny Konqi
[04:52] <shaddar> hi ... someone using kubuntu on a ibm thinkpad x-series ?
[04:52] <joe3k> twosouls82: didn't find anything related on bugs.kde.org
[04:54] <loz> ubotu: can you give me advice on printing
[04:54] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about can you give me advice on printing - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:54] <loz> ubotu:  printing
[04:54] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[04:54] <loz> botsnak
[04:54] <loz> ubotu: botsnack
[04:54] <ubotu> Yum!
[04:55] <BluesKaj> twosouls82, Dr_willis ...I didn't understand what you guys just did there ..I enterd the commands in the terminal as sudo and I have access to the windows pc !  Thanyou :)
[04:55] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  we explained what it was doing....
[04:55] <binary2k2> linux magic :P
[04:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[04:56] <_pyrooo_> hi all
[04:56] <Dr_willis> you set teh SUID BIT on the binaries so they ran with root permission/priviliges
[04:56] <_pyrooo_> just came back from trying to install gentoo
[04:56] <Dr_willis> oops :)
[04:56] <_pyrooo_> didn't work, i'm a newbie and i did all i can - worked 15 hrs straight on that :|
[04:56] <_pyrooo_> so i'm moving to kubuntu
[04:56] <_pyrooo_> is there any manual i need to read before i install?
[04:56] <Dr_willis> _pyrooo_,  but did you learn aynthing from doing the install.
[04:57] <Dr_willis> ubuntu/kubuntu web sites have a lot of guides
[04:57] <_pyrooo_> Dr_willis: i learned alot!
[04:57] <_pyrooo_> Dr_willis: i finished the install but i couldn't boot with grub. i got lots of help but still, it didn't work.
[04:58] <Dr_willis> grub is one of those things - it pays to spend a few hrs reading the homepage/docs/manuals and just learning....
[04:58] <_pyrooo_> so i think i'll try kubuntu, get formilier with linux and when i'll understand the basics i'll decide if i want to switch to some other disto or stay with kubuntu
[04:58] <Dr_willis> It pays to learn the 'FUNdamentals' :)
[04:59] <_pyrooo_> what?
[04:59] <BluesKaj> I have debian fans telling me to switch ...it's the same platform...but i don't see why i should ...I like some eye candy :)
[05:00] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  once you learn the basics - the changes are all eye candy. :)
[05:00] <_pyrooo_> Dr_willis: do you think kubuntu is just for basic users of even experts?
[05:00] <Dr_willis> _pyrooo_,  its what you make it to be.. what are the experts doing thats so much different from what basic users are doing.
[05:00] <BluesKaj> Dr_willis, the manuals assume one understands the nomenclature ...well i don't
[05:01] <_pyrooo_> Dr_willis: for how much time have you been using kubuntu?
[05:01] <Dr_willis> BluesKaj,  tldp.org has some guides also.. when in doubt.. read , read, read some more.. THEN you start to pickup on all the terms. and it all starts to fig together. Dont worry about a term you dont know right now.. look it up.. or have patience and it will eventually be made clear.
[05:02] <Dr_willis> _pyrooo_,  been using Ubuntu and its variants since.. Hmm Breezy Badger release. been using Linux for a few years. (8 or so)
[05:02] <_pyrooo_> Dr_willis: why did you choose kubuntu instead a more complex distro?
[05:02] <Dr_willis> and yes i have a HUGE collection of Unix/Linux books.
[05:03] <Dr_willis> _pyrooo_,  the term 'complex' is a bit meaningless. :) all the operating systems are a bit complex.
[05:03] <Dr_willis> ubuntu is very good at getting a system going. good HW detection, and installer.
[05:03] <Dr_willis> could be better.. but it works.
[05:04] <binary2k2> "could be better.." the linux motto
[05:04] <_pyrooo_> Dr_willis: alright, so i think i'll use kubuntu until i understand it throughly then decide if i want to switch. btw, do i need to read any guide before i install?
[05:04] <Dr_willis> binary2k2,  'could be better, but we dont care to put forth the effort' - the MS/Windows Motto.
[05:04] <Dr_willis> _pyrooo_,  the ubuntu/kubuntu homepage has some guides.
[05:05] <_pyrooo_> Dr_willis: i ment installing guides. before i install
[05:05] <Dr_willis> _pyrooo_,  tldp.org has some  more general guides also.
[05:05] <Dr_willis> I found the installer rather straight forward compared to gentoos. :)
[05:05] <Dr_willis> then again. gentoo's is rather straight forward.. just detailed.
[05:05] <Dr_willis> few clicks.. partition the drives.. let it install.. enter users name/password. :)
[05:06] <_pyrooo_> Dr_willis: amm, gentoo is stratight forward if you know what your doing :)
[05:06] <_pyrooo_> well i'm gonna install right away thanks
[05:06] <binary2k2> even the alternate text installer is qutie simple, compaired to others
[05:06] <Dr_willis> I tend to use the Kubuntu/Uubntu alternative isntaller cd's
[05:06] <Dr_willis> and the text based installer.
[05:08] <Dr_willis> http://ubuntuforums.org/
[05:08] <BluesKaj> I've heard Gentoo is a bitch to install
[05:08] <Dr_willis> is good also to read/watch/check
[05:09] <Dr_willis> Gentoo is just 'detailed' :) and if you got no idea what a kernel even is..... well...
[05:14] <nixbox> I have an ssh session with a console, I want to log all the activity, there is not much user activity but there are lots of lines that get printed on the console as a result of packet arrivals, I want to log the time (with milliseconds granularity) at the start of each line printed, screen can't do that, any other ideas? I was suggested "logger" yesterday but I can't figure out how to use logger in this case.
[05:16] <bluch> !install deb
[05:16] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about install deb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:16] <bluch> !deb
[05:16] <ubotu> deb is the Debian package format, also used by Ubuntu. To install .deb files, simply double-click on them (Ubuntu) or right-click and select Kubuntu Package Menu->install (Kubuntu)
[05:17] <dany21> hi... has anyone raki and synce with an iPaq running?
[05:17] <khirr> what is the repository for JRE?
[05:17] <Dr_willis> !java
[05:17] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java  -  For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[05:17] <Dr_willis> its in Multiverse :)
[05:18] <khirr> but i'm using edgy
[05:18] <khirr> how can configure this?
[05:19] <Dr_willis> !multiverse
[05:19] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[05:20] <Dr_willis> I normally fire up adept, check on the box's that enable the other repos,  and click away. :)
[05:20] <khirr> instaling
[05:20] <khirr> :D
[05:20] <Dr_willis> or enable them by editing the /etc/apt/sources.list, or use the front ends adept/synaptic to enable them.. or  use that easysource site
[05:22] <kimothy> any one care to help out with fglrx troubles?
[05:24] <kimothy> any one care to help out with fglrx troubles?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> and  the trouble is?
[05:24] <Dr_willis> if you reply 'it dont work' im going to give you such a pinch..
[05:24] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:25] <shaddar> anyone knows how to enable/configure the power save function of a thinkpad and how to enable the middle-mouse-button of a thinkpad x41 ?
[05:25] <kimothy> I installed the drivers and activated it in systemsettings, but they work worse than the ati drivers
[05:25] <kimothy> had to change back
[05:26] <Dr_willis> shaddar,  i think theres a thinkpad specific forum/area/wiki - ive never owned one.. so i may be wrong.. but it wont hurt to check.
[05:26] <kimothy> glxgears give about 300 fps
[05:27] <Dr_willis> glxgears really ticks me off at times. :) i cant even rember how to make it show fps now.
[05:27] <Dr_willis> no man page, no --help
[05:27] <ryanakca> anybody know what icon set this is? http://www.kde-look.org/content/pre1/45095-1.jpg
[05:27] <ryanakca> lol
[05:27] <||arifaX> Hirvinen, kopete does not get my icq contacts from icq server as gaim does by default. any ideas how to fix this? is there a trick?
[05:28] <ryanakca> info glxgears have anything?
[05:28] <ryanakca> would it be crystal or something?
[05:28] <Dr_willis> ryanakca,  no info.. and the silly default is now to not show fps...
[05:28] <kimothy> glxgears -printfps
[05:28] <Dr_willis> here i was trying -showfps :)
[05:29] <kimothy> :-)
[05:29] <ryanakca> Dr_willis: file a bug... :)
[05:29] <ryanakca> should have a man page at the very least
[05:29] <Dr_willis> ryanakca,  i dont think anyone really cares. :( its been this way for ages.
[05:29] <ryanakca> lol
[05:29] <Dr_willis> 57464 frames in 5.7 seconds = 10128.971 FPS
[05:30] <Dr_willis> im not even sure what package glxgears comes in.
[05:32] <kimothy> typing fglrxinfo tells me it's using mesa
[05:33] <kimothy> any tricks up youres sleeve?
[05:33] <shaddar> [17:26]  <Dr_willis> shaddar,  i think theres a thinkpad specific forum/area/wiki - ive never owned one.. so i may be wrong.. but it wont hurt to check. <--haven't found yet ^^
[05:33] <khirr> how can i know if i have install JRE?
[05:34] <kimothy> J2re package installed?
[05:34] <Dr_willis> khirr,  java --version
[05:34] <khirr> tanks
[05:34] <Dr_willis> silly java.. its -version
[05:34] <LjL> Dr_willis, welcome to unix
[05:35] <Dr_willis> ava version "1.5.0_08"
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_08-b03)
[05:35] <Dr_willis> Ya would think at LEAST they could include both for --version and -version
[05:35] <Dr_willis> thats what? another 2 lines of C code. :)
[05:35] <Random_Transit> hey can anyone tell me what i need to play m4p files??
[05:36] <kimothy> i really need help with fglrx
[05:36] <Dr_willis> i really love when  a typo prints out 4 pages of help docs.. :)       guess thats better then a typo saying 'use --help' and --help option tells nothing.
[05:36] <LjL> Dr_willis, for that matter there are standard GNU or even POSIX libraries for parsing arguments in a sane way. you just need to use them i guess
[05:36] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:36] <LjL> Dr_willis: because the right option is either -help or -h, of course. makes perfect sense
[05:37] <Dr_willis> X -- -whatever     is always amusing also.
[05:37] <khirr> why i cant run mercury?
[05:37] <Dr_willis> I got Xnest in a window.. with a X cursor.. but nothing is starting.. heh.. now how to tell it to run a script..
[05:38] <ryanakca> kimothy: fglrx.. that's with xgl and compiz/beryl?
[05:38] <wildchild> Is there any DJ program for (k)ubuntu like tractor or virtual DJ in windows, please help
[05:38] <ryanakca> kimothy: why not just switch over to the open source 'ati' driver... much simpler
[05:38] <kimothy> no. ati's official drivers
[05:38] <ryanakca> wildchild: hmm... dunno... amarok?
[05:38] <kimothy> i have. but they are not realy that good
[05:39] <Random_Transit> wildchild, try terminatorx
[05:39] <hollywoodb> wildchild: there's a bunch, the agnula/demudi project has a bunch, and there should be quite a few in the regular repos as well
[05:39] <kimothy> i'm running ati driver now
[05:39] <ryanakca> kimothy: they are... I get higher fps with 'ati' than 'fglrx'... 'radeon' is junk on the other hand...
[05:39] <ryanakca> card?
[05:39] <khirr> why i cant run mercury messenger?
[05:39] <hollywoodb> wildchild: there's also ubuntustudio project
[05:39] <kimothy> radeon 9800XT
[05:40] <wildchild> hollywoodb, thx
[05:40] <LjL> Dr_willis, http://aminet.net/package/util/wb/autogui - do this on Unix ;)
[05:41] <kimothy> ryanakca: Me to. But thats only because there is something wrong with the fglrx drivers
[05:41] <ryanakca> kimothy: aka, they aren't as good as the 'ati' ones
[05:42] <xoxo> Question: when i click a hyperlink in kde, its showing the cached address instead of the actual website, how do i make it show the website instead of the cache?
[05:42] <kimothy> ryanakca: no. fglrx gives me about 7000 fps with working fglrx drivers and 300 with ati drivers
[05:43] <ryanakca> no clue... look on the XGL sites... they tend to have howtos on getting fglrx set up
[05:44] <kimothy> tried diverse howto's but none help me
[05:44] <hollywoodb> !fglrx
[05:44] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:44] <kimothy> read it
[05:45] <kimothy> but thanks
[05:46] <wildchild> Random_Transit: if u use terminatorX, what are your audio settings, I can't manage them to play mp3 file
[05:46] <kimothy> I'll change distro if I can't get it to work. Realy
[05:46] <Random_Transit> i really can't tell you, wildchild....i've only just heard of it recently
[05:46] <Random_Transit> sorry
[05:47] <kimothy> kororaa
[05:48] <kay> i need a webcam program anyone an idee?
[05:48] <aimtrainer> Hi! I just installed kubuntu edgy coming from kanotix and apt-geted gaim. But somehow the gaim preferences are differemt from what I m used to. There are far less possibiliteis to configure gaim
[05:48] <kimothy> oops! sorry
[05:48] <aimtrainer> does anyone know how to get the old preferences?
[05:48] <kay> aimtrainer: maybe you look in your hme/you/.gaim folder
[05:49] <kay> in your old one
[05:49] <aimtrainer> kay k ll try that ..
[05:49] <FJ_Sanchez> Hi there
[05:49] <aimtrainer> kay I dont have my old one anymore
[05:49] <kay> aimtrainer: so i think you have to do all agian :-/
[05:49] <Dr_willis> LjL,  actually i saw a similer tool  for linux,
[05:50] <Dr_willis> LjL,  saw it on a live cd.. i thinki even went to the programs homepage. but it was no longer being maintained.
[05:50] <aimtrainer> kay thats not the problem, but the gaim gui doesnt offer me the options I had back in my old gaim
[05:50] <LjL> Dr_willis: mantained or not, it'd never work correctly on linux. best it can do is try "--help" and hope the output is somehow machine readable... which will only be true for a handful of programs
[05:51] <kay> aimtrainer: so it like an other gaim for you?
[05:51] <LjL> Dr_willis: on amigaos, "<command> ?" gives a very standard syntax, which is easy to parse
[05:51] <Dr_willis> LjL,  the one i saw had a set of 'tabs/configs' for the various programs. you basicially designed a little gui of check boxs/entrys that then got passed to the command.
[05:52] <yahalom> i can install kubuntu-desktop, it keeps sayign downloading headers, and stays like until it fails after a few minutes
[05:52] <yahalom> i just downloaded xubuntu-desktop, no problems
[05:52] <yahalom> any ideas?
[05:52] <LjL> ah well, that's what GUI4CLI itself does on AmigaOS. you write a textfile and design the GUI there. but this AutoGUI thing *uses* GUI4CLI and goes further, by generating the UI automatically...
[05:52] <aimtrainer> kay - basically the program looks and works the same way - just the preferences guy is like a beginners version
[05:53] <aimtrainer> *gui not guy
[05:53] <Dr_willis> I always just used 'CanDo' :) to build my own.
[05:53] <binary2k2> yahalom: try using a different mirror, like the main ones
[05:53] <yahalom> binary2k2: i'm using without country symbol
[05:53] <yahalom> binary2k2: so no us.archive, but archive.
[05:54] <kay> aimtrainer: hm have you lok under preference...
[05:54] <binary2k2> yahalom: it may be that there is a heavy load on the server, so you should still try another one
[05:54] <yahalom> binary2k2: cool thanx man
[05:55] <aimtrainer> kay: yea thats the whole point - the prefernces suck
[05:55] <jeroen__> Hi all can someone help me? ive installed nero for linux on my pc but i need a serial nr does someone hase a keygen or so?
[05:56] <aimtrainer> there are hardly an options anymore
[05:56] <Armagguedes>  i'm currently using FF2 on ubuntu (the one that came preinstalled with edgy eft), and when i save files with the same name that another file has (on the same folder), it doesn't warn, it just overwrites. how can i change this behaviour?
[05:56] <Dr_willis> jeroen__,  i find k3b works better then the nero-linux stuff
[05:56] <kay> aimtrainer: hm... maybe you take your kanotix gaim and try to install it on your kubuntu :D
[05:57] <jeroen__> aha dr willis i use Ubuntu
[05:57] <Dr_willis> jeroen__,  so....
[05:57] <aimtrainer> Ill try googling some more
[05:57] <Dr_willis> install k3b
[05:57] <jeroen__> ok thx dr willis:)
[05:58] <Dr_willis> gnome has some  burtning front ends also.. the reviews of nero-linux are rather.. well.. less then stellar.. :)
[05:58] <snpz> k3b do things the same as Nero
[05:58] <binary2k2> jeroen__: if you use ubuntu, why do you ask on the kubuntu channel?
[05:58] <snpz> so why to use Nero?
[05:58] <snpz> ;)
[05:58] <pyr0> hi sll
[05:58] <pyr0> hi all
[05:58] <pyr0> just finished installing kubuntu
[05:58] <snpz> hi pyr0
[05:58] <pyr0> now i don't know what to do next!
[05:58] <snpz> what do u whant to do next
[05:58] <snpz> ?
[05:58] <snpz> :D
[05:58] <snpz> use it
[05:58] <yahalom> binary2k2: i tried it with us.archive and uk.archive same issue, u still think it's the same reason?
[05:59] <Armagguedes> now you can go and have teh sex
[05:59] <yahalom> 0% [Waiting for headers] 
[05:59] <Dr_willis> linux slogan 'what do you want to do next....'
[05:59] <_pyrooo_> heh
[05:59] <jeroen__> binary2k2 dont know how to log into an other
[05:59] <_pyrooo_> now really
[05:59] <_pyrooo_> i know nothing about linux and i really wanna explore, are there any manuals that can help?
[05:59] <binary2k2> jeroen__: type /join #ubuntu
[05:59] <binary2k2> yahalom: hmm
[06:00] <yahalom> binary2k2: its weird cos i can download anything, escept kubuntu-desktop
[06:00] <_pyrooo_> anyone?
[06:00] <abattoir_> _pyrooo_: try the desktop guide
[06:00] <Hawkwind> _pyrooo_: Search the forums and the wiki
[06:00] <abattoir_> _pyrooo_: Kmenu->Help
[06:01] <_pyrooo_> the wiki sucks, i searched it and theres nothing there except the dekstop guide
[06:01] <Hawkwind> _pyrooo_: There are millions of things on the internet to read/do/search when it comes to Linux/Kubuntu
[06:01] <_pyrooo_> amm, i know there are tons about linux i'm used to working with gentoo
[06:01] <_pyrooo_> it has a really big, developed wiki. anyways, i'll search. is there any preffered site to search in?
[06:02] <Hawkwind> The wiki has tons of info, you just have to know what you want to do/accomplish
[06:02] <_pyrooo_> smm
[06:02] <Hawkwind> _pyrooo_: What do you want to do/accomplish exactly ?
[06:02] <_pyrooo_> learn linux. learn the tree, the dirs...
[06:02] <_pyrooo_> commands
[06:02] <abattoir_> !cli
[06:02] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[06:02] <binary2k2> yahalom: you could tye looking on packages.ubuntu.com and try downloading the .deb file from one of the many mirrors
[06:02] <andrepose> I have a Kubuntu Dapper Cd How do I install server from it? When I select install it goes to the Live cd version
[06:02] <abattoir_> _pyrooo_: ^^^ basic commands, to get you started
[06:03] <_pyrooo_> uninstall all the unneccecery programs kubuntu installed and install only what i want and need.
[06:03] <andrepose> ?
[06:03] <_pyrooo_> alright thanks
[06:03] <binary2k2> yahalom: then sudo dpkg -i the file and sudo apt-get -f install to get dependences
[06:03] <_pyrooo_> :)
[06:03] <_pyrooo_> yahlaom, plz identify i want to PM you
[06:04] <aimtrainer> Does anybody here still have gaim 1.xx installed and is willing to paste me his prefs.xml please?
[06:04] <andrepose> Can someone help me?
[06:04] <yahalom> binary2k2: same thing
[06:05] <Armagguedes> andrepose, when you boot the liveCD
[06:05] <Armagguedes> on the Desktop you should see
[06:05] <Armagguedes> a "Install" icon
[06:05] <Armagguedes> it's a script that will install the OS
[06:05] <andrepose> yes. So I can still install server from there?
[06:05] <binary2k2> yahalom: strange, it's only that package that won't download?
[06:05] <Armagguedes> i don't think so
[06:05] <Armagguedes> i think you need the server ISO
[06:06] <mluser-home> Could someone please point me to the HOWTO on upgrading dapper -> edgy ?
[06:06] <Armagguedes> mluser-home, you DON'T want to do that
[06:06] <binary2k2> Armagguedes: why not?
[06:06] <_pyrooo_> yahalom, plz identify.
[06:06] <mluser-home> Armagguedes: I already did it on one machine.. but just dont remmember where the howto is
[06:06] <Armagguedes> there is a substancial amount of people reporting all sorts of problems with upgrades
[06:07] <binary2k2> Armagguedes: my upgrade went fine
[06:07] <Armagguedes> if you can, stick to a clean isntall
[06:07] <Armagguedes> ah
[06:07] <khirr> how can i create one folder on usr/local?
[06:07] <Armagguedes> it's your heads then
[06:07] <Armagguedes> mkdir
[06:07] <mluser-home> If it fails.. I'll perform a clean install.. I already have full backups.. just want to try it
[06:07] <mluser-home> Can someone point me to the HOWTO please?
[06:07] <Armagguedes> khirr, though you probably need to sudo mkdir there
[06:07] <binary2k2> mluser-home: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades
[06:07] <khirr> thanks
[06:08] <mluser-home> binary2k2: Thank you
[06:08] <khirr> how can i copy files there?
[06:08] <mluser-home> I guess I need to install update-manager :)
[06:09] <Armagguedes> sudo cp ORIGIN /usr/local/DESTINATION
[06:09] <Armagguedes>  i'm currently using FF2 on ubuntu (the one that came preinstalled with edgy eft), and when i save files with the same name that another file has (on the same folder), it doesn't warn, it just overwrites. how can i change this behaviour?
[06:09] <abattoir> !upgrade | mluser-home
[06:09] <ubotu> mluser-home: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[06:10] <andrepose> Okay I have a question about Partitioning, I have two drives one is a 3gig and another is 4 gig.  The 4 gig is primary and 3 is secondary.  Where should I put the swap driver. And how should I configure the rest for server installation?
[06:10] <yahalom> binary2k2: i get unable to fetch headers, maybe try with fix missing, but nothing needs to be fixed
[06:12] <sizzam> i'm considering a switch to kubuntu, i'm using ubuntu now.  is there a good site like www.ubuntuguide.org for Kubuntu?
[06:12] <binary2k2> yahalom: it's strange that it's just kubuntu-desktop that won't download
[06:12] <Dr_willis> andrepose,  i normally put a little swap partitionon each drive  i have.
[06:12] <Dr_willis> how much memory you have on the machine?
[06:12] <yahalom> binary2k2: i know, i had this issue two days ago and someone i solved and i cant figure out how
[06:12] <abattoir> sizzam: many guides there are applicable to kubuntu as well
[06:12] <andrepose> 128meg
[06:13] <andrepose> why put swap on both drives?
[06:13] <Dr_willis> so you proberly want about 512mb swap.
[06:13] <Dr_willis> or more.
[06:13] <abattoir> sizzam: you can try 'kubuntu' from your ubuntu installation as well, if you didn't know
[06:14] <Dr_willis> andrepose,  it can be more efficnent. but i dont think it willmetter much for your case
[06:14] <sizzam> abattoir: any suggestions for guides?  as a new user, i can find them, but i cant determine if they are good or not
[06:14] <yahalom> binary2k2: could it be a repo conflict, same package on two repos that i have?
[06:14] <andrepose> okay so can I put 256 on each drive?
[06:14] <binary2k2> yahalom: I'd try removing all the files in /var/lib/apt/lists/
[06:14] <sizzam> abattoir: oops, just re-read your comment, thanks
[06:14] <Dr_willis> andrepose,  id say put 512mb swap at the start of the 2nd hard drive.
[06:14] <abattoir> sizzam: i'd recommend the wiki, as it has a lot of useful info...
[06:14] <yahalom> binary2k2: that was it man, i disabled y extra repos and now it works
[06:15] <yahalom> binary2k2: well kind of, its sticky
[06:15] <markelhas> i ppl
[06:15] <abattoir> sizzam: but of course, many of the stuff there make it in from places like the fora and ubuntuguide
[06:15] <sizzam> abattoir: if i try kubuntu in ubuntu and decide i like it, would you recommend a fresh install off of a kubuntu disk?
[06:15] <binary2k2> yahalom: I have several repos in my sources.list, gb fr and mirrorservice, I don't have a problem
[06:15] <andrepose> okay.
[06:15] <markelhas> trying to set up my kubuntu in my desktop, but i'm having problems with the p2p clients
[06:15] <markelhas> can some one give me some tips!?
[06:16] <markelhas> so the thing is
[06:16] <andrepose> should I mount the second drive logical space at any certain point??
[06:16] <andrepose> or can I just mount it at /var/?
[06:16] <yahalom> binary2k2: how do i remove them, sudo rm  /var/lib/apt/lists/
[06:16] <yahalom> *
[06:16] <yahalom> ?
[06:16] <binary2k2> yahalom: that should work
[06:16] <markelhas> i've set the port forw to my desktop but seems somethings wrong cause can't download nothing, everything very slow. 0.1 kbs
[06:17] <abattoir> sizzam: depends on your needs, if feasible you can do that else you can 'remove ubuntu' by removing the ubuntu-desktop package
[06:17] <binary2k2> yahalom: just make sure you don't remove the dir or the partial subdir
[06:17] <abattoir> sizzam: you ofcourse install kubuntu by installing the kubuntu-desktop package
[06:17] <markelhas> is kubuntu blocked? should i do some config!?
[06:17] <sizzam> abattoir: gotcha.  thanks for the advice
[06:17] <yahalom> binary2k2: wont do it
[06:17] <abattoir> sizzam: no problem :)
[06:17] <markelhas> if yes where!?
[06:17] <binary2k2> yahalom: what's the error?
[06:19] <yahalom> binary2k2: rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/partial': Is a directory
[06:19] <yahalom> binary2k2: but i type *
[06:19] <binary2k2> yahalom: do a ls on the dir, see if the files are still there
[06:20] <yahalom> binary2k2: 0
[06:20] <markelhas> ppl some help needed!!!
[06:20] <markelhas> only left config p2p client
[06:20] <yahalom> binary2k2: what repos do u use? i use the ubuntguide ones
[06:21] <binary2k2> yahalom: i use the mirrorservice, gb, and fr ones
[06:22] <binary2k2> yahalom: i did a mass pinging session to find the best ones
[06:22] <markelhas> what should i do else then forw the port's for my p2p client!?
[06:22] <markelhas> in my router.
[06:22] <markelhas> does kubuntu needs special config to be able to use p2p clients?
[06:23] <markelhas> neither azureus or ktorrent works in my kubnutu.
[06:23] <binary2k2> markelhas: my p2p clients run fine on kubuntu, but i dont use a router
[06:23] <yahalom> binary2k2: gb for great britain fr for france?
[06:23] <markelhas> i've check in a windows machine and with de same client and works fine
[06:24] <markelhas> binary2k2: so no extra config needed!?
[06:24] <binary2k2> yahalom: yeah, the gb one is actually the same as one with out country code and french derver gives me good ping
[06:25] <binary2k2> markelhas: no, i don't need any extra config
[06:25] <markelhas> i'm using kubuntu in my laptop some time, and i've decided to change in my desktop, but i didn't check the p2p clients before installing
[06:25] <markelhas> now can't use p2p client in it :(
[06:25] <yahalom> binary2k2: i dont get it, cos it finds all it needs, says this many packages, u want to continue, YES
[06:25] <markelhas> should my router have some problem with kubuntu!?
[06:25] <yahalom> binary2k2: 0% fetchign headers
[06:26] <yahalom> binary2k2: this is fr. now
[06:27] <binary2k2> yahalom: strange, if you can fetch the package list then it should have no problem with the packages
[06:27] <yahalom> binary2k2: right. but it keeps doing this until it fails
[06:27] <binary2k2> markelhas: the router should be fine with kubuntu, but i don't use one so I can't say for sure
[06:28] <binary2k2> yahalom: are you behind some kind of proxy?
[06:28] <markelhas> binary2k2: it's strange bacause i've internet over it but no p2p clients
[06:29] <markelhas> binary2k2: can't understand it :(
[06:29] <yahalom> binary2k2: nope, i have a router, but then why did xubuntu-desktop work?
[06:29] <binary2k2> markelhas: maybe your ISP blocks or limits p2p, some do
[06:29] <markelhas> i've try evan upgrade my firmaware roter
[06:29] <markelhas> binary2k2: not because if a connect the cliente via windows machine works fine
[06:30] <mo> Hi
[06:30] <binary2k2> yahalom: sorry to say it but, i have no clue why it's not working
[06:30] <yahalom> binary2k2: oh that so weird
[06:30] <yahalom> binary2k2: i used synaptic and then it said "some packages cannot be received do u want to ignore them?"
[06:30] <mo> I'm having a problem with mkinitrd
[06:30] <binary2k2> markelhas: matbe you have a slow file, on p2p some are fast most are slow
[06:30] <yahalom> binary2k2: so i said yes and now its doing it
[06:31] <yahalom> binary2k2: do i need to file a bug or am i missing something
[06:31] <yahalom> ?
[06:31] <mo> I've compiled 2.6.17.13, and it worked just fine (without lvm support)
[06:31] <mo> And mkinitrd tells me:
[06:31] <yahalom> binary2k2: man u should have waited a min longer :P
[06:32] <mo> "Finding all volume groups - No volume groups found - /usr/sbin/mkinitrd: 253:0: Cannot find LVM device"
[06:32] <binary2k2> yahalom: you'll have to check the dependences of kun
[06:32] <mo> And then just stops
[06:32] <mo> Does anyone have an idea, what I can do about this?
[06:32] <binary2k2> yahalom: *kubuntu-desktop
[06:32] <markelhas> so it's must be a problem with kubuntu or my router/kubuntu
[06:32] <markelhas> binary2k2: same file in windows fast ddl, kubuntu slow, stoped
[06:32] <markelhas> :(
[06:32] <markelhas> binary2k2: i've check so many things, i don't remember what to look more.....
[06:32] <binary2k2> yahalom: to make sure you get them all
[06:32] <_JP> ouch, i just deleted a wrong dir in konq using shift+del
[06:32] <yahalom> binary2k2: yeah. thanx for ur time. u helped.
[06:32] <_JP> any way to restore those deleted files?
[06:32] <yahalom> binary2k2: *kubuntu-desktop just that?
[06:33] <binary2k2> yahalom: if you install all the dependences of that, it will be like it's installed because kubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package
[06:34] <binary2k2> yahalom: I don't know how to help then, sorry
[06:34] <binary2k2> opps
[06:34] <binary2k2> that's to markelhas
[06:34] <yahalom> binary2k2: it works now, i said "u helped me" as in "thank u for helping me"
[06:34] <mo> Why does mkinitrd tell me, that it hasn't found any LVM groups, although I haven't compiled the kernel with lvm support?
[06:34] <binary2k2> yahalom: that's what heppens when you talk to 2 ppl at the same time :P
[06:36] <markelhas> binary2k2: what's for me!?
[06:36] <binary2k2> markelhas: i said: I don't know how to help, sorry
[06:36] <markelhas> binary2k2: oki
[06:37] <binary2k2> markelhas: ask on the forums, you'll get more eyes on the problem
[06:37] <dennister> g'day all
[06:39] <dennister> i'm having a problem with kmplayer vis a vis a particular source, and i'm confused about which config files to edit...no matter what i do, whenever i try to play one source it says xine isn't running
[06:39] <dennister> can someone help me set it up pls?
[06:41] <dennister> binary2k2?
[06:41] <holotone> Every time I turn on my USB hard drive (which mounted fine in the past), now I get this error:
[06:41] <holotone> "mount: can't find /dev/sdb3 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[06:41] <binary2k2> dennister: I don't have kmplayer installed so I don't know
[06:41] <holotone> any ideas?
[06:41] <dennister> k, thx anyway
[06:42] <dennister> holotone: have u looked at fstab to see if anything's changed?
[06:42] <holotone> nope, all looks the same
[06:42] <holotone> dennister: I never had to have an entry for this device before, it just automounted
[06:43] <dennister> ok...r u using kcontrol?
[06:43] <wildchild> does anyone here uses terminatorx; I can't set up audio device ?
[06:43] <holotone> dennister: For what? I usually just plug it in, it asks if I want to open in a new window, and I'm done
[06:44] <ira> Q. Any one get KDE4.0 runing in edgy?
[06:45] <ira> I am trying to add the source to adapt but it wont take the line cut and paisted from the web page
[06:45] <dennister> holotone: if u have a terminal window open, just type in "kcontrol"; if not go to k-menu--->control center, or k-menu-->system settings
[06:45] <Random_Transit> can i safely set a root password in ubuntu by using passwd?
[06:46] <dennister> Random_Transit: it's not advisable for safety
[06:46] <dennister> abattoir: :)
[06:47] <abattoir> hello dennister :)
[06:47] <dennister> abattoir: u're always so helpful and knowledgeable...know kmplayer at all?
[06:47] <abattoir> heh
[06:47] <abattoir> dennister: a bit
[06:47] <abattoir> dennister: what do you need?
[06:47] <Random_Transit> dennister, but using passwd won't really screw with anything will it?
[06:47] <dennister> i'm having a problem with xine for one pariticular source...no matter what i do i get "xine not running"
[06:48] <abattoir> dennister: a stream?
[06:48] <Armagguedes>  i'm currently using FF2 on ubuntu (the one that came preinstalled with edgy eft), and when i save files with the same name that another file has (on the same folder), it doesn't warn, it just overwrites. how can i change this behaviour?
[06:48] <dennister> my tuner
[06:48] <abattoir> Armagguedes: i thought it appends a no. to it
[06:49] <abattoir> dennister: have you tried kaffeine?
[06:49] <dennister> Random_Transit: if ur new to k/ubuntu, just don't do it
[06:49] <abattoir> (but since that uses the xine backend too...)
[06:49] <Random_Transit> i'm not new to ubuntu
[06:49] <Armagguedes> abattoir, ??
[06:49] <Armagguedes> what do you mean
[06:49] <dennister> abattoir: yes, but just for movies/avi files and music
[06:50] <abattoir> Armagguedes: from what i've seen, if you have file.ext, and save another file.ext, the second one becomes file(1).ext
[06:50] <dennister> almost everything uses xine as the server
[06:50] <Armagguedes> i'm using "save target as"
[06:50] <Random_Transit> does anyone here know of a way to strip the encryption from DRMed music bought on iTunes?
[06:50] <Armagguedes> or wtv
[06:50] <Armagguedes> not the download manager
[06:51] <abattoir> dennister: i don't really know what is causing the error... any other errors?
[06:51] <dennister> i've been struggling with mplayer's sound, so i thought i could get at kmplayer better, and use it instead...then i found the dvb capability with kmplayer/xine and i'm so excited
[06:51] <abattoir> Armagguedes: oh, then i'm not sure, sorry, maybe there is an extension that fixes that
[06:51] <dennister> hold on:
[06:51] <lupine_85> Random_Transit: solution #1 is to not use iTunes :). But IIRC there /is/ a way to un-DRM them
[06:51] <binary2k2> Random_Transit: only way I know is to burn it to a cd as CD audio and re rip it
[06:51] <abattoir> Random_Transit: there used to be pytunes...
[06:51] <lupine_85> highly illegal, mst likely
[06:52] <abattoir> Random_Transit: but it doesn't support FairPlay, afaik
[06:52] <abattoir> Random_Transit: FairPlay has been broken, but there apparently won't be an opensource app which 'strips' it
[06:52] <Random_Transit> yeah, see, i downloaded this album off of demonoid, but the dude who uploaded it, left the tracks in m4p format
[06:53] <abattoir> but tbh, this really isn't the place to talk about it
[06:53] <holotone> dennister: once I'm in kcontrol, then what?
[06:53] <dennister> abattoir: whenever i type in "kmplayer /dev/video0" all i get, besides the gui popping up with the xine not running message at the bottom, is (in terminal) :
[06:53] <dennister> kxineplayer -wid 41943277 -f '/home/cathy/.kde/share/apps/kmplayer/xine_config' -vo xv -ao alsa -cb kmplayer-9535/KMPlayerCallback-0 -c QLayout "unnamed" added to QWidget "unnamed", which already has a layout
[06:53] <abattoir> dennister: and that is the tv tuner card?
[06:54] <dennister> abattoir: it's a hauppauge wintv 250, and it does work
[06:54] <abattoir> dennister: i think you can ignore the QLayout error
[06:54] <abattoir> dennister: tried stuff like mythtv?
[06:54] <dennister> holotone: go to system administration, disks and filesystems
[06:54] <holotone> dennister: Ok, then...?
[06:54] <abattoir> or even kdetv
[06:55] <dennister> abattoir: yes, but mythtv uses the same settings for my tuner as mplayer/kmplayer
[06:55] <abattoir> dennister: sorry, don't know, maybe #mythtv ?
[06:55] <robmag> 89.39.4.39
[06:55] <dennister> i need to understand kmplayer, and then i can use my tuner in mythtv...kdetv doesn't support my tuner card
[06:55] <holotone> dennister: entered administrative mode, and right clicked on the partition, selected "modify"
[06:55] <holotone> dennister: but nothing is happening
[06:55] <dennister> holotone: yes
[06:56] <holotone> dennister: nothing at all
[06:56] <dennister> holotone: have u entered administrator mode? and entered password?
[06:56] <holotone> dennister: yes
[06:56] <dennister> hmm
[06:57] <dennister> holotone: is there anything under mount point column?
[06:57] <holotone> dennister: viewing the device in the gnome disc utility says there are no partitions
[06:58] <holotone> dennister: nothing under mount point in kcontrol
[06:58] <joe3k> dennister: don't really know what's goin on but tvtime is a great tv app too
[06:58] <holotone> dennister: unlinke the gnome disk utility, the kcontrol disc utility does show the partitions
[06:59] <dennister> holotone: i'm not up on gnome; try clicking 'new' in kcontrol
[07:00] <dennister> joe3k: tytime only supports bt chipset tuners, not my ivtv tuner
[07:00] <joe3k> dennister: hm i thought general any v4l/v4l2 device, i've saa7134 and works
[07:01] <dennister> i've tried tvtime, "no signal"
[07:01] <dennister> same with motv, kdetv, xawtv...
[07:01] <holotone> dennister: "can't read superblock" after I create new mount through kcontrol and select enable
[07:01] <bthibault> hi, i'm trying to apt-get flashplugin-nonfree , but i don't think i have the right repository listed
[07:01] <bthibault> which one do i need
[07:02] <dennister> holotone: k, you may need to reboot and see if the filesystem is corrupt...and run fsck
[07:02] <joe3k> dennister: does it have at least an v4l[2]  driver?
[07:02] <abattoir> !flashplugin-nonfree
[07:02] <dennister> that "superblock message is worrisome
[07:02] <ubotu> flashplugin-nonfree: Macromedia Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 7.0.68~ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 164 kB (Only available for i386)
[07:02] <abattoir> bthibault: multiverse
[07:03] <dennister> joe3k: it's ok, i've got mythtv almost running perfectly, and it's mainly just the sound that i have to fix...and mythtv is a lot of work
[07:03] <bthibault> abattoir: is this it?
[07:03] <holotone> dennister: how do I run fsck @ boot?
[07:03] <bthibault> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-backports main restricted universe
[07:03] <bthibault>  multiverse
[07:03] <dennister> so i don't really want to try different tv apps at this poiint
[07:04] <bthibault> i have that line uncommented but it's not working
[07:04] <dennister> holotone: when it's booting up, hit escape key for verbose
[07:04] <holotone> dennister: then?
[07:04] <holotone> dennister: it'll be an option?
[07:04] <dennister> it'll check all the filesystems to see if they're clean or giving error messages
[07:04] <holotone> gotcha
[07:04] <holotone> thanks, rebooting, brb
[07:05] <sizzam> i was using the 'generic' kernel, i then installed nvidia-glx via apt-get, and now after i rebooted, im running the 386 kernel
[07:05] <binary2k2> bthibault: you want the linw deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy main restricted universe multiverse
[07:05] <binary2k2> line*
[07:05] <bthibault> binary2k2: thanks !
[07:10] <holotone> dennister: hitting esc at boot didn't do anything
[07:11] <holotone> dennister: can I run fsck without rebooting?
[07:11] <binary2k2> holotone: it has to be run while the filesystem is unmounted
[07:12] <holotone> binary2k2: I can't get it to mount anyhow, so that works
[07:12] <holotone> binary2k2: that's actually the problem
[07:12] <binary2k2> holotone: or is that read only? one or the other :P
[07:13] <holotone> what would be the command to check an unmounted fat32 partition located at /dev/sdb3 with fsck?
[07:13] <dennister> holotone: sorry about that bum steer then, it always worked for me
[07:13] <Zarephath> anyone know of a good diary/daily journal program for Kubuntu?
[07:13] <holotone> dennister: no worries..!
[07:14] <holotone> dennister: what would be the command to check an unmounted fat32 partition located at /dev/sdb3 with fsck?
[07:14] <binary2k2> holotone: sudo sfck /dev/sdb3 should work
[07:14] <binary2k2> holotone: sudo fsck /dev/sdb3 rather
[07:15] <holotone> binary2k2: heh, thanks
[07:15] <natex> i recently tried the kde4 testing packages. Is there a way to completely remove it along with everything that was installed with it?
[07:15] <holotone> binary2k2: prompted with "FATs differ, but appear to be intact. Use which FAT?"
[07:15] <Zarephath> holotone,: You can also issue man fsck from the terminal and it will give you details on using it.
[07:15] <dennister> binary2k2: i'll let u help holotone :) u have the commands at ur fingertips :)
[07:16] <holotone> Zarephath: man pages are horribly formatted and never make sense to my brain
[07:16] <binary2k2> dennister: noooooo :P
[07:16] <binary2k2> holotone: do you get any options?
[07:17] <holotone> when running fsck on this partition, I am prompted with "FATs differ, but appear to be intact. Use which FAT?" 1) Use First Fat 2) Use Second FAT
[07:17] <joe3k> holotone: you can do man:/ even in konqueror if you like ;-)
[07:17] <holotone> joe3k: handy tip, thanks!
[07:17] <buz> is there any chance to get a working install of kubuntu onto 1GB of flash?
[07:17] <binary2k2> holotone: try 1
[07:18] <Zarephath> joe3k,: Yeah you can even google for the man pages on the web and get them right there....possibly with different formatting ;-O
[07:18] <holotone> Prompted with "Bad File Name" 1) Drop file, 2) Rename file, 3) Auto-rename 4) keep it
[07:18] <natex> in other words. how can I make sure to remove all deps of a package?
[07:19] <Zarephath> natex, : use the purge option..or use synaptic and it will give you the option to remove all files for a given .deb file
[07:19] <binary2k2> holotone: you can try option 4
[07:19] <ira> any one setup wine32 under amd64?
[07:19] <natex> thanks Zarephath
[07:20] <bthibault> guys, i'm having a performance issue, i'm running on a AMD Sempron 3000, but my process is constantly pegged out, this should be enough to run xorg/ KDE right ?
[07:20] <bthibault> *processor
[07:20] <Zarephath> ira: Uhhh..that might be a tad difficult to do...you can try a loopback setup running 32bit..then install wine under it I suppose
[07:20] <holotone> binary2k2: Ok, now prompted with "Duplicate Directory Entry" 1) Drop First, 2) Drop Second, 3) Rename first, 4) rename second, 5) auto-rename first, 6) auto-rename second
[07:20] <ira> interesting
[07:20] <Zarephath> bthibault, : I would assume so..
[07:21] <joe3k> bthibault: tried process table (ctrl+esc) or "top" ?
[07:21] <binary2k2> holotone: you'll probably want 4 or 5
[07:21] <holotone> binary2k2: another odd thing is that the timestamp on these directories are from 1987
[07:21] <holotone> binary2k2: something's definetly farked
[07:21] <holotone> binary2k2: would it be best to autorename the first or second?
[07:21] <ira> tried this but it didnt work http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185557
[07:21] <markelhas> ppl need help config p2p clients, anyone!?
[07:21] <bthibault> joe3k: yeah i've done top, its really not showing much activity, but my superkaramba CPU monitor is showing that its maxed out
[07:22] <joe3k> bthibault: hm maybe it's the superkaramba's CPU monitor that's broken
[07:22] <klerfayt> http://www.nasa.gov/home/index.html?skipIntro=1 - doesn't work in konqi
[07:22] <bthibault> joe3k: when i scroll any windows i can see the monitor refreshing every 1-2 seconds its pretty bad
[07:22] <binary2k2> holotone: you can't really tell, just have to pivk one
[07:22] <binary2k2> *pick
[07:23] <bthibault> joe3k: everytime i drag a window around the screen , i see the cpu spike to the max
[07:23] <holotone> binary2k2: I think this is definetly messed up, there seems to be hundreds of duplicate directory entries
[07:23] <holotone> binary2k2: that's not normal, is it?
[07:23] <binary2k2> holotone: no, something messed up your FAT
[07:24] <Armagguedes> probably hamburgers ands pizza
[07:24] <bthibault> probably just time for a new computer
[07:24] <joe3k> bthibault: i have celeron 2,4
[07:24] <natex> Zarephath: I used apt-get autoremove foo
[07:24] <buz> bthibault: sempron 3000 is more than enough
[07:24] <buz> theres something wrong
[07:24] <holotone> binary2k2: any way to save the data? It was a days work there :(
[07:24] <joe3k> bthibault: if you drag window and cpu goes high, it's normal i think
[07:25] <joe3k> bthibault: the scrolling is not so ok though
[07:25] <mentok> anyone know how to get the creative Sound Blaster X-Fi sound card working?
[07:25] <binary2k2> holotone: as long as you choose rename, nothing should be deleted
[07:25] <joe3k> bthibault: can you see which process is causing this?
[07:25] <wildchild> there was an error initializing the audio i/o layer. You wil not be able to play or record audio. How can I set up layer?
[07:26] <joe3k> bthibault: eg run top in console, make it always on top and try to "scroll"
[07:26] <hollywoodb> wildchild: what app?
[07:26] <binary2k2> wildchild: that audacity?
[07:26] <wildchild> yes
[07:26] <wildchild> audacity
[07:26] <wildchild> binary2k2
[07:27] <bthibault> joe3k: when i scroll down in firefox Xorg is jumping to 94% CPU
[07:27] <binary2k2> wildchild: you have to get aRts to suspend
[07:27] <joe3k> bthibault: does it do on every html page or on any page?
[07:27] <binary2k2> wildchild: you can do it from the aRts applet
[07:27] <wildchild> binary2k2: how
[07:27] <bthibault> joe3k: any page
[07:27] <wildchild> don't even know what's applet
[07:28] <bthibault> joe3k: i also have transluceny and shadow effects turned off so there must be some setting causing it to spike
[07:28] <joe3k> bthibault: is it the same with konqueror?
[07:28] <bthibault> joe3k: let me check
[07:28] <binary2k2> wildchild: right-click on the pannel where the window list is and cloose "Add Applet to Pannel..."
[07:28] <dennister> my god! if this channel was anything like mythtv channel i'd go nuts
[07:28] <joe3k> bthibault: it could be caused maybe by the card drivers, not sure
[07:29] <dennister> i will *never* try to ask for any help there again
[07:29] <binary2k2> wildchild: then choose aRts control and add
[07:29] <joe3k> dennister: why?
[07:29] <dennister> <---is so angry she's shaking
[07:29] <dennister> all they can do is complain about how u ask questions
[07:29] <joe3k> hehe
[07:30] <dennister> brb...i need another pack of smokes to calm down
[07:30] <bthibault> joe3k: yeah, same thing in konqueror
[07:30] <bthibault> joe3k: the card driver thing actually crossed my mind too
[07:30] <joe3k> bthibault: what card/driver do you use?
[07:31] <wildchild> binary2k2: can't find aRts
[07:31] <bthibault> joe3k:  generic i think , i just xorg pick automatically for me :)
[07:31] <joe3k> bthibault: ok
[07:31] <bthibault> joe3k:  can i change by running dpkg reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[07:31] <joe3k> bthibault: i'd just check one more thing: run konqueror/firefox from console and check whether you get any X warnings/errors
[07:31] <bthibault> joe3k: ok, one sec
[07:32] <binary2k2> wildchild: you may need kdeaddons installed
[07:32] <joe3k> bthibault: hehe not sure i never used that stuff
[07:32] <joe3k> bthibault: i had to setup my xorg.conf manually anyway since i have three server layouts
[07:32] <binary2k2> wildchild: or you can try in konsole: killall artsd
[07:32] <bthibault> joe3k: i get this error
[07:32] <bthibault>  	16800
[07:32] <bthibault> joe3k: oops
[07:32] <bthibault> joe3k: this error: X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 166
[07:33] <joe3k> bthibault: hmmm i think this is harmless
[07:33] <bthibault> ok
[07:33] <joe3k> bthibault: check whether you get some during scrolling
[07:33] <hollywoodb> bthibault: that error is due to wacom devices being listed in your xorg.conf... there's info in the forums how to remove that, but other than that warning it doesn't hurt anything
[07:34] <binary2k2> bthibault: that's just the wacom error, known bug, harmless
[07:34] <bthibault> joe3k: no other erros
[07:34] <walla> can anyone give me a hand with a gtkpod problem?
[07:34] <joe3k> bthibault: ok what's your video card?
[07:34] <bernd_> hi everybody
[07:34] <binary2k2> walla: depends on the problem
[07:34] <bthibault> joe3k: not sure, i'll have to open my box up and check
[07:34] <joe3k> bthibault: lspci will help
[07:34] <walla> it doesn't seem to recognize my ipod
[07:35] <bernd_> can anybody help me with my fstab?
[07:35] <walla> it says there's no listing for media/sda2 in my mtab
[07:35] <mentok> walla: is it mac formatted or win?
[07:35] <bthibault> joe3k:  nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5500] 
[07:35] <binary2k2> walla: have you recently updated it, with itunes or something
[07:35] <walla> win
[07:35] <walla> no
[07:35] <walla> i've uninstalled gtkpod and reinstall about 2 times now
[07:36] <joe3k> bthibault: ok, now check your xorg.conf plz, section "Device", "Driver" option
[07:36] <joe3k> bthibault: you should have nv or nvidia there
[07:36] <walla> and i have no problem adding and removing songs with amarok or the default program that opens with the ipod
[07:36] <joe3k> i think once i had vesa and it was sloooooooow
[07:36] <binary2k2> walla: do you get any errors?
[07:36] <joe3k> bernd_: what do you need?
[07:37] <walla> terminal output - (gtkpod:27588): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_text_buffer_emit_insert: assertion `g_utf8_validate (text, len, NULL)' failed
[07:37] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[07:37] <bthibault> joe3k: it's just listed as generic
[07:37] <aimtrainer> hi! That: linux-image-2.6.15-23-686 is the kernel I need for an intel core duo 2300 right?
[07:37] <walla> and the mstab earror which i mentioned
[07:38] <hollywoodb> aimtrainer: no
[07:38] <aimtrainer> ok which one hollywood?
[07:38] <aimtrainer> :)
[07:38] <joe3k> bthibault: you mean "Driver" "generic"?
[07:38] <binary2k2> walla: did you mount it first
[07:38] <hollywoodb> -generic is fine
[07:39] <walla> it mounts automatically when plugged in
[07:39] <bthibault> joe3k: Driver  "vesa"
[07:39] <joe3k> bthibault: ok that'll be the problem
[07:39] <hollywoodb> aimtrainer: linux-image-generic is fine... 'sudo apt-cache search' will show that linux-image-686 is obsolete (and 2.6.15 is an old kernel version)
[07:39] <binary2k2> walla: is it a mtab error or a fstab error?
[07:39] <aimtrainer> hollywoodb: could you please give me the name of the kernel I need
[07:39] <joe3k> bthibault: you can try to replace the vesa with "nv"
[07:40] <aimtrainer> hollywoodb sry didtn see that
[07:40] <walla> both
[07:40] <aimtrainer> thanks
[07:40] <walla> mount: can't find /media/sda2 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[07:40] <joe3k> bthibault: that's open source driver for nvidia cards, but it can't do 3d
[07:40] <bthibault> joe3k: ok i'll do that and restart X
[07:40] <bthibault> joe3k: thanks, i'll be back in a sec
[07:40] <joe3k> bthibault: if you want the "full power" you need nvidia-glx
[07:40] <joe3k> !nvidia
[07:40] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:40] <joe3k> bthibault: here it is
[07:40] <twosouls82> or nvidia-glx-legacy if you have an older card
[07:41] <binary2k2> walla: try adding a line like "/dev/sda2 /media/sda2 vfat defaults,noauto 0 0" to /etc/fstab
[07:41] <joe3k> bthibault: it's easy just need to install few packages and set the "Driver" to "nvidia"
[07:42] <tdn> How do I access my Compact Flash card from Kubuntu? I have a PCMCIA CF-readeer. When I insert the CF card nothing happens. I am watching dmesg, but nothing new appears.
[07:43] <walla> well when i closed gtkpod i get this output
[07:43] <walla> umount: /media/sda2 is not mounted (according to mtab)
[07:43] <walla> and adding a line that line to fstab didn't work
[07:45] <tdn> Oups. Something does indeed appeaar in dmesg. (I was looking at dmesg at the wrong host) This is what I get in dmesg: http://thomasdamgaard.dk/p/?paste=303
[07:45] <binary2k2> walla: then it must not be mounted, remove the line from fstab, open konsole and type pmount /dev/sda2
[07:46] <Blissex> tdn: it is probably one of the many buggy PCMCIA chipsets (hde: lost interrupt)
[07:46] <walla> Error: device /dev/sda2 is already mounted to /media/ipod
[07:46] <walla> that's the message i get when i try to mount it
[07:46] <tdn> Blissex, I have an IBM Thinkpad T42. Do you know if that has a buggy PCMCIA chipset? Do you have any suggestions on what to do?
[07:47] <binary2k2> is there any files in /media/ipod ?
[07:47] <eilker> !vesa > eilker
[07:47] <Blissex> tdn: the CF reader...
[07:48] <tdn> Blissex, is the CF reader broken?
[07:48] <walla> i found a tutorial for install gtkpod, i think i'll just try running through that to see if i missed something
[07:49] <eilker> people i have login problem , and i saw in forums it may releated with video card driver, do i need to modify xorg.conf for getting vesa driver __?
[07:49] <Blissex> tdn: pretty likely.
[07:50] <Blissex> eilker: that usually works, even if a bit more slowly.
[07:50] <wildchild> binary2k2: if ur still here I added aRts ..
[07:51] <binary2k2> wildchild: if you right click on the applet and cloose "aRts Status" you can then suspend aRts
[07:51] <tdn> Blissex, is it broken by design or is it broken like something has become defective in it and I should complain to the retailer to get a new reader?
[07:51] <wildchild> binary2k2: ok
[07:51] <Blissex> tdn: probably by design.
[07:51] <wildchild> binary2k2:will now work
[07:52] <binary2k2> wildchild: that's how I get audacity to work for me
[07:52] <eilker> blissex: what must i do for getting vesa ? this is my xorg.conf http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31273/
[07:52] <tdn> Blissex, ok. It is from Kingston. Do you know anywhere I can check if this is a model known to cause problems in Linux? It works perfectly fine in Windows.
[07:53] <wildchild> binary2k2: now it says: please check the output audio device
[07:53] <wildchild> binary2k2: and the project sample rate
[07:53] <eilker> blissex: Driver	"vesa"   // is tihs enough in xorg.conf ?
[07:53] <Blissex> tdn: google it... Whether it works with MS Windows is quite unimportant. And whether it _really_ works in MS Windows is another problem...
[07:53] <Blissex> eilker: usually yes.
[07:54] <binary2k2> wildchild: have a look in the setting or audacity to make sure its setup right
[07:56] <wildchild> binary2k2: error start when I click on the icon of audacity: there was an error initializing the audio i/o layer. You wil not be able to play or record audio
[07:56] <tdn> Blissex, what do you mean by "_really_ works"?
[07:56] <binary2k2> try pressing Alt-F2 and run "sudo killall -9 artsd"
[07:57] <binary2k2> change to "kdesu killall -9 artsd"
[07:57] <Blissex> tdn: reliably. Instead of just appearing to work.
[07:57] <bthibault> joe3k: ahh, thats better
[07:57] <bthibault> joe3k: thanks
[07:57] <joe3k> bthibault: you're welcome
[07:58] <joe3k> bthibault: did you notice the nvidia binary howto?
[07:58] <bthibault> joe3k: no i didn't
[07:58] <joe3k> bthibault: if you ever want to use 3d acceleration you'll need to use the nvidia binary drivers
[07:58] <joe3k> !nvidia
[07:58] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:58] <joe3k> bthibault: it's easy just need to install few packages and set the "Driver" to "nvidia"
[07:58] <bthibault> joe3k: so use this instead of the generic nv driver?
[07:59] <joe3k> bthibault: if you're lucky with 2d you don't need to
[07:59] <joe3k> bthibault: otherwise yes
[07:59] <tdn> Blissex, ok.
[07:59] <joe3k> bthibault: i tried to tell you but you were too fast :)
[08:00] <bthibault> joe3k: ha, thanks, i appreciate the help , owe you a beer
[08:00] <joe3k> hehe
[08:01] <wildchild> binary2k2: dosn't help. Maybe i don't have correct set up in system settings -> sound system
[08:02] <binary2k2> wildchild: I just have the default set up in sound system and I have it working
[08:02] <wildchild> :s
[08:02] <eilker> !tdfx >eilker
[08:02] <wildchild> how is that with amarok don't have problems..
[08:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tdfx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:04] <ryanakca> how do you draw a custom trajectory in open office impress?
[08:05] <dennister> !mplayer
[08:05] <ubotu> mplayer is a media player. Enable multiverse repo and type sudo apt-get install mplayer for more info please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer  To compile it from source see:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MPlayer/Compile
[08:05] <ubotu> For Codecs try !codecs Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MplayerInstallHowto for installation tips.
[08:05] <Dendeigh> hi there - does anybody know, what can cause df to report wrong available size on an ext3-partition?
[08:08] <nextstate> I just got a new AMD X2 and the 64bit install of kubuntu fails while trying to boot linux. Anybody run into this problem before?
[08:09] <Dendeigh> nextstate: what is the error message an what motherboard are you using?
[08:09] <Jack1> hi
[08:09] <nextstate> I'm using an asus crosshair
[08:09] <Jack1> can anyone help? after an edgy upgrade i  cannot login anymore, just startx starts a gnome session
[08:10] <Jack1> it kicks me out after few secs
[08:10] <nextstate> the error is something about a kernel param? sorry I've forgotton
[08:11] <Dendeigh> nextstate: I had similar problems on an Asus M2N-E - I had to update the BIOS to fix this (before I always ran into kernel panic with ACPI enabled)
[08:11] <nextstate> Dendeigh: so I need to disable ACPI?
[08:11] <nextstate> in the bios?
[08:12] <Dendeigh> no, you can disable ACPI while booting the install CD
[08:12] <Dendeigh> what error message do you get?
[08:12] <nextstate> oh, you mean a kernal param
[08:12] <Dendeigh> yes
[08:12] <nextstate> Dendeigh: gimee a sec to reboot the machine
[08:13] <Dendeigh> "noapic acpi=off" ...
[08:13] <Dendeigh> Jack1: does the login-screen show up on boot?
[08:15] <nextstate> Dendeigh: kernel panic - not syncing: IO-APIC + timer doesn't work! Try using the 'noaipic' kernel parameter
[08:15] <nextstate> maybe I should read the error messages more carefully :)
[08:16] <Lam_> when i used windows, i would sometimes compress rar files with a password and make it so that you can't peek inside to see filenames of the contents.  now that i'm on linux, anytime i try to decompress those rar files, ark archiver crashes
[08:16] <Dendeigh> nextstate: that is exactly the same message I got - I would suggest a BIOS upgrade
[08:18] <nextstate> Dendeigh: ok, I'll look for one. I used the 'noapic' param and it seems to be booting into kubuntu now. thanks.
[08:19] <Jack1> Dendeigh: yes it does
[08:19] <Jack1> Dendeigh: BUT THEN IT KICKS ME OUT AND I AM at the login screen again
[08:19] <hollywoodb> Lam_: try unrar in a terminal
[08:19] <Lam_> hollywoodb: ok i'll try that. thanks
[08:20] <Dendeigh> Jack1:  ok, have you checked the logfiles?
[08:21] <Dendeigh> Jack1:  /var/log/Xorg.0.log & /var/log/syslog
[08:21] <Jack1> not Dendeigh
[08:21] <Jack1> mom Dendeigh
[08:29] <nagyv> hello! I would like to help a friend to activate it's wifi card, but I ude KDE and he uses GNOME. I decided to try out remote desktop. He authorized me, but the connection is just building up, but never succeeds. The krdc window seems to be frozen.
[08:30] <nagyv> I put into krdc: vnc:/his.ipa.ddr.ess:0 Is this the right way?
[08:35] <Jack1> Dendeigh: hmm i can see it here from windows but its an editor file and it is weird to read
[08:35] <Jack1> Dendeigh: what should i look for ? file is long
[08:44] <dennister> anyone have any idea how to 'recompile' an application like mplayer?
[08:46] <Dr_willis> get the source.. compile away.. :)
[08:46] <Dr_willis> or learn how to build from the src-debs  - never done that.
[08:46] <zorglu_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=85190 <- is aboutmplayer compilation, quite old thru
[08:46] <Bubba_Gump> is there a quick way to flip between the player window and the full maximised screen in Amarok ?
[08:46] <zorglu_> im interested too about a newer version of mplayer :)
[08:46] <Hawkwind> dennister: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=51003
[08:46] <dennister> thx...compiling scares me
[08:46] <Hawkwind> dennister: Read that URL to learn how to build .debs really easily
[08:47] <dennister> hi hawkwind :)
[08:47] <dennister> and yet someone last night said i should recompile my kernel, too
[08:48] <Dr_willis> why bother - unless thers somthing you need in the newer ones.
[08:48] <Hawkwind> dennister: I build the latest kernel for Dapper/Edgy the day it's released on kernel.org.  I have a script that does it all for me and builds .deb packages of it
[08:48] <vieira> hi ppl
[08:49] <vieira> can u help me out config amule?
[08:49] <zorglu_> in the new versions of mplayer, there is -fixed-vo which can be interesting
[08:49] <vieira> tryng to ddl serve list but can't connect
[08:49] <dennister> i just want mplayer to work :( to give me sound...i think it's a codecs problem
[08:49] <vieira> says  Failed to download the server list from http://ed2k.2x4u.de/hkaoxqzu/min/server.met
[08:49] <Dr_willis> its always a codec problem. :)
[08:49] <vieira> any tips!?
[08:49] <zorglu_> dennister: this is unlikely to be a version problem
[08:49] <Dr_willis> vieira,  perhaps the server is down..
[08:49] <dennister> and yet with my previous installation of edgy mplay did work
[08:50] <Dr_willis> vieira,  check the amule page for alternatives perhaps. (never used amule)
[08:50] <dennister> *mplayer
[08:50] <vieira> Dr_willis: i can't config any p2p client in my kubuntu
[08:50] <vieira> Dr_willis: 0.0kb speed
[08:51] <vieira> Dr_willis: i've config every ports fw in my router
[08:51] <Jack1> has anyone got any idea for my prob describe above? the login thing?
[08:51] <dennister> and these man pages and the documentation on the mplayer site go on forever
[08:51] <vieira> Dr_willis: i think my router has problems with linux
[08:51] <Dr_willis> vieira,  sounds like a router/ports issue - or set the box to be on the routers dmz.
[08:51] <zorglu_> dennister: try simple video with easy codec
[08:51] <Dr_willis> ktorrent, and others can auto-set the ports  on routers that have upnp features
[08:51] <vieira> Dr_willis: can u give me some help trying to solve this!?
[08:51] <Dr_willis> vieira,  could try  utorrent.exe and wine. :)
[08:52] <vieira> Dr_willis: the fwr of the ports are ok because if a connect via windows ddl works just fine
[08:52] <Dr_willis> vieira,  id see if the router has a dmz setting, and set the linux box to be on the dmz.
[08:52] <joe3k> dennister: if you don't need completely new version, only add few patches i'd consider using apt-get build-dep and source, then debuild, it's much easier
[08:52] <dennister> kinda difficult to grasp all at once...zorglu: mplayer works when i use an avi file, but yesterday it worked for tuner output and today with this install it doesn't
[08:52] <vieira> Dr_willis: utorrent works just fine in windows :8
[08:52] <Dr_willis> could be some firewall stuff under linux blocking it.. but ive not had the issue.
[08:52] <Dr_willis> im using  'wine utorrent.exe' right now. :)
[08:53] <vieira> Dr_willis: humm going to try to see if there is a dmz zone config in the router
[08:53] <zorglu_> dennister: this confirms this is not a mplayer version issue
[08:53] <Dr_willis> torrennts can be such... a hassle.. :)
[08:53] <vieira> Dr_willis: yap, i've put in dmz zone
[08:53] <vieira> Dr_willis: and now?
[08:53] <dennister> my head is swimming...yes, which is why i'm giving it...not only am i unwilling to (at this point) learn how to recompile, but i don't think it's really necessary
[08:54] <Bubba_Gump> Dr_willis: heh, and a distraction, too :D
[08:54] <Dr_willis> vieira,  try the torrents again.. :) what else.
[08:54] <Dr_willis> could go to one of the 'torrent check' sites that scans your box to insure the ports are open.
[08:54] <vieira> Dr_willis: that's it!
[08:54] <Dr_willis> You sure when you boot to linux - it gets the same ip as when you are booted to windows. :)
[08:54] <hollywoodb> dennister: try vlc perhaps... I've been having the occasional odd audio error with mplayer as well... I'm going to try fetch the codecs tarball from mplayer's site and unpack it myself
[08:54] <vieira> Dr_willis: no changes the same :(
[08:55] <vieira> Dr_willis: 0.0 kb/s
[08:55] <nagyv> is here anyone who already used a vncclient? I would like to help out a GNOME using friend, and try out vnc at the same time. He already started a vncserver and allowed view access, but I can not connect.
[08:55] <vieira> Dr_willis: some times 0.2 or 0.3 nothing better than that
[08:56] <dennister> i just installed vlc, but it's not showing up in my menus yet...
[08:56] <Dr_willis> nagyv,  he ran 'vncserver' or did he just enable desktop shareing.
[08:56] <vieira> ppl any ideias!?
[08:57] <vieira> just for remark the torrent is running fast in a windows machine
[08:57] <Dr_willis> vieira,  try  http://www.utorrent.com/testport.php?port=14548
[08:57] <nagyv> Dr_willis: both, but when running vncserver the system talked about a password, although he also set up a password when allowed shareing. (He first allowed sharing, and then we realized that there is no vncserver installed nor running)
[08:57] <dennister> would someone be able willing to look at my konsole output with mplayer...and take a stab at telling me how to fix the mplayer sound/codec issue?
[08:57] <vieira> also try azures in both machines
[08:57] <hollywoodb> dennister: pastebin it
[08:57] <dennister> !pastebin
[08:57] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (you can always find it in the channel topic, among other useful things)
[08:58] <Dr_willis> vieira,  try wine and utorrent, try the other torrent toublshooting sites - they may mention yoru router.
[08:58] <Dr_willis> check to see if you set up any firewalling rules on the linxu box.
[08:58] <vieira> Dr_willis: where can i check firewalling setting in linux!?
[08:59] <vieira> the link u gave me i've change to port because ktorrent uses 6881, and says ok
[08:59] <vieira> Dr_willis: but the slow connections is there :(
[09:00] <Dr_willis> its possible that utorrent under windows is NOT using that port.. it may be your isp blocking that port.
[09:00] <Dr_willis> utorrent can even randomize that port.
[09:01] <zorglu_> hmm it was a error, mplayer -fixed-vo doesnt work even on cvs version from yesterday  :)
[09:01] <manchicken> Anybody know how to get amarok working with MTP?
[09:01] <dennister> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31293/
[09:02] <dennister> i do have the codecs that the mplayer output refers to, btw, mplayer just can't find them
[09:03] <Dr_willis> it may be looking in the wrong place.
[09:03] <dennister> exactly
[09:03] <Dr_willis> when ya start mplayer from the shell. it may print out where its looking
[09:03] <dennister> that's what my pastebin is: output from the shell
[09:04] <Dr_willis> usr/lib/codecs/wnvplay1.dll
[09:04] <Dr_willis> seems to be where mine are at.
[09:04] <zorglu_> dennister: Try adding the scale filter, e.g. -vf spp,scale instead of -vf spp. ?
[09:04] <hollywoodb> dennister: I don't have a /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll either, in fact I don't have it at all... have other codecs though
[09:05] <zorglu_> btw -fixed-vo seems to work but only in full screen
[09:06] <Dr_willis>  /usr/lib/win32    but no avisynth.dll either
[09:06] <dennister> my codecs are in /usr/lib/codecs and /usr/lib/win32...hold on, no avisyth...tons of others
[09:06] <hollywoodb> I'm downloading the official codecs pack from mplayerhq.hu now to see if its in there
[09:07] <dennister> thx hollywoodb
[09:07] <Dr_willis> i have a avisynth.dll  in my cedega/windows dirs :)
[09:07] <hollywoodb> dennister: the stuff in /usr/lib/win32 are just symlinks to /usr/lib/codecs
[09:07] <zeeo> hey guys when i'm playing Pandora.com radio a flash based radio it runs fine for 10 15 mins then it seems when say kmess trys to make a beep or sound
[09:07] <zeeo> it makes that sound then the pandora
[09:07] <zeeo> stops working
[09:07] <zeeo> and i have to close firefox
[09:07] <zeeo> and all that
[09:07] <zeeo> and reopen
[09:07] <zeeo> to fix
[09:07] <hollywoodb> !enter | zeeo
[09:07] <ubotu> zeeo: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[09:08] <Dr_willis> zeeo,  using the flash9 beta?
[09:08] <zeeo> lol ya i flood
[09:08] <zeeo> dr willis just what is
[09:08] <zeeo> instlaled with firefox
[09:09] <zeeo> wow net split?
[09:10] <Dr_willis> !flash
[09:10] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats  -  See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html  -  But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:10] <Dr_willis> Flash 9 just came out a few weeks ago.
[09:10] <Dr_willis> its in beta testing.
[09:11] <dennister> zorglu: i tried the scale addition u mentioned, but it's for video scaling and my problem is with audio
[09:11] <Tm_T> Dr_willis: You mean flash 9 _beta_ came out, actual release haven't been yet.
[09:11] <Tm_T> And yes, there's big difference.
[09:13] <steveire> Hey, Is there a keyboard binding to switch tabs in Konsole?
[09:14] <Dr_willis> steveire,  i looked for that the other day - and didetn seem to find one.
[09:14] <nacer> hi hi
[09:14] <hollywoodb> dennister: avisynth.dll isn't in 'essential' or 'all' codec packs from mplayerhq.hu
[09:14] <Dr_willis> im so used to using alt-# under xchat
[09:14] <steveire> Dr_willis: Pity. It would be very useful.
[09:15] <Dr_willis> the #kde guys may know. ive looked - i may of overlooked it.
[09:15] <hollywoodb> dennister: http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/2006-June/061232.html
[09:16] <dennister> ok, if avisynth isn't essential, why is my tuner saying it is/can't find it
[09:16] <Dr_willis> could be some oddball codec
[09:18] <hollywoodb> dennister: https://www.zarb.org/pipermail/plf-discuss-ubuntu/2006-October/000310.html
[09:18] <hollywoodb> dennister: it sounds like the version of mplayer in the ubuntu repos is outdated
[09:18] <dennister> it seems thatway, 'oddball' as i said, the mplayer i installed with edgy the other day had working sound for tuner...this install's sound doesn't work
[09:19] <Dr_willis> steveire,  told ya they would know. :)
[09:19] <Dr_willis> what odd bindings to use...
[09:19] <Dr_willis> the only avisynth i can find is in --> .transgaming/c_drive/windows/system32/avisynth.dll
[09:19] <Dr_willis> no idea what/how it got there. :)
[09:19] <zeeo> i don't think the prob i'm having with sound is flash cuz if the song is still paying on pandora
[09:20] <zeeo> the sound from kmess
[09:20] <zeeo> can't play
[09:20] <zeeo> at all
[09:20] <zeeo> till the song is done
[09:20] <zeeo> so its allmost like its not runing in full deplex or some crap
[09:20] <zeeo> like i can't play more then one sonud at a time
[09:20] <Dr_willis> zeeo,  we are going to remove your enter key....
[09:20] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:20] <zeeo> :O sorry its a habit
[09:21] <Dr_willis> zeeo,  thats a common description of an arts/esd/alsa/oss/soundserver issue.
[09:21] <manchicken> Is there a way to apt-get source, build the source, and then install it without hosing your dpkg database?
[09:21] <Dr_willis> Im listenign to the site now.   :) but i have a Creative Audigy Card. what sound card do you have zeeo ?
[09:21] <dennister> ok, so its a bug with edgy...i'm going to try and reinstall it, as it worked with my edgy installation before this one
[09:21] <zeeo> i'm runing a laptop
[09:22] <zeeo> its a dell inspiron 1200
[09:22] <manchicken> Can you actually "jam" to Kenny G?
[09:22] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:22] <zeeo> how can i found out what card its runing
[09:22] <dennister> bback soon
[09:22] <Dr_willis> google   the ubuntu/kubuntu wiki/forums/laptop area zeeo  perhaps otehrs have similer sound issues.
[09:23] <zeeo> k
[09:25] <Dr_willis> that site is streaming very well  :) considreing how lagged/torrent download-loaded i am.
[09:25] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:28] <Dr_willis> heh - it just hung on me zeeo
[09:28] <Dr_willis> got a sound loop going da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.....
[09:29] <manchicken> Anybody?
[09:30] <mentok> does anyone know about getting a SoundBlaster X-Fi sound card running in Edgy?
[09:30] <Dr_willis> mentok,  last i looked that card was not supported under linux yet.
[09:31] <Dr_willis> that was about 2 mo ago. It may of changed by now.
[09:31] <mentok> Dr_willis: hmm, any workarounds?
[09:31] <Dr_willis> wait for a driver. :)
[09:31] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hey guys how do you shutdown processes on ubuntu
[09:31] <mentok> Dr_willis:  dang :(
[09:31] <mentok> Dr_willis:  thanks
[09:31] <Th3_Cr0up13R> how do i shutdown startup processes?
[09:31] <Dr_willis> do some googling see if the stuff is even being worked on. I guess.
[09:32] <mentok> Dr_willis: that sounds like a good idea
[09:32] <hollywoodb> Th3_Cr0up13R: KMenu -> System Settings -> Advanced -> Services
[09:32] <Dr_willis> mentok,  its possible it may be comming out soon, or being worked on.. i put off gettting one for a few months  due to the linux not supported yet issue. :)
[09:32] <Dr_willis> My audigy2zs is doing very well - :) and its a lot cheaper now.
[09:32] <mentok> Dr_willis: yeah, I would have except I've needed midi quick, and I have a dual boot
[09:33] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hollywoodb: there is no advanced on my system settings
[09:33] <hollywoodb> Th3_Cr0up13R: yes there is
[09:33] <hollywoodb> Th3_Cr0up13R: at the top
[09:33] <mentok> Dr_willis: of course they didnt' seem to have any audigy's at best buy
[09:33] <Dr_willis> ive yet to ever have anything that actually hooked to the midi port. :)
[09:33] <mentok> Dr_willis: ah
[09:33] <mentok> Dr_willis: I got a midi controller recently, that thing is awesome
[09:33] <Dr_willis> mentok,  ive basicially given up on bestbuy.. Ive been paying attention to their prices.. and.. well they really (@&!@&@ you over if you are not carefull.
[09:34] <Dr_willis> BUt they do have a good return policy :)
[09:34] <dany21> hello... does anybody use gestures within KDE? they are generally working... but i have one problem: i cant sent [alt] [f4]  for closing a prog... the gesture gets recognised - but i get no action... anybody tried before?
[09:34] <mentok> Dr_willis: I was surprised because the card I got would have cost more on newegg than at best buy
[09:34] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hollywoodb: no there isnt is like the last file and its grey cannot really make it out but i found it
[09:34] <mentok> Dr_willis: usually its the other wat around
[09:34] <Dr_willis> mentok,  you got lucky then.. or they screwed up. :)
[09:34] <mentok> hehe
[09:34] <mentok> yeah
[09:34] <Dr_willis> Their very well 'educated' clerk tagged the wrong box. :)
[09:35] <mentok> Dr_willis: hehe, so true
[09:35] <Dr_willis> or he tagged it wrongly for a friend...
[09:35] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hollywoodb: do i coose the halt option
[09:35] <Th3_Cr0up13R> which of the options is the not run option
[09:35] <mentok> defiintley
[09:35] <Dr_willis> I got a laptop from BB once, and a docking bay.. and they failed to notice the bay on the cart.. and let me walk out with it. :)
[09:35] <mentok> wow
[09:35] <Dr_willis> i dident even notice till 4 mo later on the reciete.
[09:35] <mentok> crazy
[09:35] <Dr_willis> saved me $200, heh
[09:36] <mentok> thats sweet
[09:36] <mentok> they gouge you for so much might as well have a freebie once in a while
[09:36] <hollywoodb> Th3_Cr0up13R: use 'Service Services' , not 'Service Manager'
[09:36] <hollywoodb> Th3_Cr0up13R: 'System Services' I meant
[09:36] <Dr_willis> then i took the laptop back (it broke) got a refund , they charged me 10% restocking fee..   and i sold the docking bay to a guy. :)
[09:36] <Dr_willis> net cost to me.. renting a laptop for 6Mo.. = $100
[09:37] <mentok> ha!
[09:37] <mentok> awesome
[09:37] <mentok> of course the stupid restocking fee is always annoying
[09:37] <Dr_willis> I had taken the laptop back 4 times...
[09:37] <mentok> its not like their clerks are too busy doing other things
[09:37] <mentok> really?
[09:37] <Dr_willis> the case had an issue where the thing kept cracking.
[09:38] <mentok> oh
[09:38] <mentok> that sounds like an issue for the manuf.
[09:39] <Dr_willis> yea - some sort of manafacyture defect on the first run of the laptop
[09:39] <Dr_willis> got sick of it.. got a diffrent laptop. then hated it. they had none the 'same or better' as my first one.. so i said *#&@&^@ you all.. give me my $$ back
[09:39] <Dr_willis> I did falter and got a 2nd laptop form them a year ago.. on sale.. display model.. with $250 rebate from them... then i managed to get a $200 rebate from HP. :P
[09:39] <Dr_willis> aparently the HP rebate was not supposed to  be at the same time the BB rebate was scheduled.. but i got it on the 2 days they overlapped.
[09:39] <Dr_willis> its a good little linux laptop now.
[09:40] <mentok> sweet
[09:40] <mentok> thats luck
[09:40] <Dr_willis> yep.. win some . lose some.
[09:40] <mentok> definitley
[09:41] <Dr_willis> like the $200 monitor that blows up the day after the warrenty expires.
[09:41] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:41] <mentok> yeah
[09:41] <mentok> murphey's law is very accurate
[09:41] <unix_infidel> Dr_willis: you mean the turion you bought?
[09:41] <mentok> strangely so
[09:42] <unix_infidel> or is this ia nother one?
[09:42] <Dr_willis> yea - turion
[09:42] <unix_infidel> hah, you got a turion for 50 bucks?
[09:42] <Dr_willis> since the bios update.. its been a solid linux box.  even got wireless going.
[09:42] <Dr_willis> it came out to be like $300 i think total.. i learned to get the extenede warrenty
[09:42] <Dr_willis> :)
[09:42] <mentok> which linux?
[09:42] <Lars_G> Greetings all
[09:43] <Dr_willis> i should of kept that docking bay from the first laptop. it would work with this one.
[09:43] <Dr_willis> its running Kubuntu now.
[09:43] <Lars_G> Question, what package does one need for giving one the possibility of decoding mp3 audio in k3b to burn to an audio cd?
[09:43] <mentok> awesome
[09:43] <hollywoodb> ha! I was going to give the WoW 10-day trial a shot under Cedega... 2.86GB download... nothx
[09:43] <Dr_willis> the only thing i cant get going on it yet. is the media reader slots.. not sure what the deal is.
[09:43] <unix_infidel> yea, i'm seriously considering buying an other laptop but one of those 300 dollar sempron or compaqs dont jive very well.
[09:43] <unix_infidel> i'd rather buy like an older pM ultraporable off ebay for ~300
[09:43] <Dr_willis> Lars_G,  that is answered in the KUBUNTU FAQ. :)   i saw it just yesterday there.
[09:43] <mentok> I've had some problems with those also
[09:44] <Lars_G> Dr_willis: I am sorry then :)
[09:44] <unix_infidel> and add another GiG of rAM
[09:44] <hollywoodb> unix_infidel: I've got a dell Penium M 1.8 + 1GB RAM, intel gfx & 14.1" LCD for around $400 + shipping... and now they have Turion notebooks for $600 or better
[09:44] <youser> guysi need some serious help
[09:44] <Dr_willis> problem gets to be -  the older one may die at any time.. then what... a new one at least you can return it...
[09:44] <youser> "operatingsystem not found"
[09:44] <unix_infidel> hollywoodb: which model?
[09:44] <youser> i woke up this morning and mydesktop looked fine but it couldnt find any apps or files
[09:45] <unix_infidel> hollywoodb: you can get new dell dual core's for 600 fully speced.
[09:45] <youser> soi restarted and got oprating system not found
[09:45] <hollywoodb> unix_infidel: mine is an Inspiron B130, but you can't configure it with my hardware via dell's website... coupon code via techbargains.com
[09:45] <Lars_G> Dr_willis: You are correct. I am sorry for bringing up the question without perusing the FAQ first.
[09:45] <unix_infidel> hollywoodb: honestly, i've had a really good run with IBM's
[09:45] <hollywoodb> unix_infidel: I like IBM/Lenovo, but I can't afford it ;)
[09:45] <unix_infidel> i wouldnt consider buying an old dell...
[09:45] <Dr_willis> Lars_G,  i just happened to rember its there. :)
[09:46] <unix_infidel> especially out of CC warranty.
[09:46] <vandenoever> dell latitude x1?
[09:46] <Dr_willis> Lars_G,   plus it coveres other programs.
[09:46] <hollywoodb> unix_infidel: all the hardware on this Inspiron is supported under linux, though I haven't tested the modem
[09:46] <Lars_G> Ah I need the multiverse it seems
[09:46] <Dr_willis> Lars_G,  i cant even tell you what other things the faq covers.. but i rember that. heh
[09:46] <unix_infidel> hollywoodb: right, but can it survive a drop to the floor?
[09:46] <lovely> alsalamo 3alaykom
[09:47] <hollywoodb> unix_infidel: dunno... I'm not willing to test it at the moment ;)
[09:47] <lovely> hi every body
[09:47] <youser> can anyone help me
[09:47] <lovely> hellow
[09:47] <youser> it seems i cant even reinstall dapper
[09:47] <unix_infidel> hollywoodb: heh, i just did like 15 minutes ago with an IBM
[09:47] <Lars_G> unix_infidel: Myself I've had good luck with Toshiba machines while I used pc laptops.
[09:47] <hollywoodb> unix_infidel: I throw it in my backpack and occasionally bump it into things that way, but that's a bit of a different kind of contact
[09:47] <unix_infidel> i'd like a tablet PC but i couldnt see it being viable at all.
[09:49] <youser> *cries
[09:53] <ttoine> is tonio somewhere on irc this evening ?
[09:58] <stodge> I can't use the NVIDIA driver:   Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver!
[09:58] <stodge> Do I need to install all updates in Edgy before it will work?
[09:59] <stodge> I tried this:       sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[09:59] <joe3k> stodge: try sudo modprobe nvidia
[09:59] <stodge> Not loading nvidia module; not used in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:00] <joe3k> hm no idea what does have modprobe to do with xorg.conf :)
[10:00] <Lars_G> stodge: fix youf config, you surely are using the "nv" driver instead of "nvidia"
[10:00] <joe3k> stodge: take a look into xorg.conf whether you have "Driver" nvidia
[10:00] <stodge> I thought that was configured by the  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[10:01] <joe3k> stodge: i think it should have been, but it can't hurt to check it ;-)
[10:01] <stodge> Ok that may have been the problem
[10:01] <stodge> I'll just restart X - thanks for your help!
[10:02] <joe3k> ok
[10:02] <eilker> !dyndns > eilker
[10:03] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dyndns - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[10:03] <walla> does anyone know a program that i can use for copying album art onto my ipod without using gtkpod?
[10:04] <eilker> what is the difference between ubuntu and ubuntu-server ?  is the difference only lamp server ?
[10:07] <hollywoodb> eilker: does ubuntu-server include ubuntu-desktop?
[10:08] <eilker> hollywoodb: i have no idea...
[10:08] <mike__> Hi folks - X won't start for me now - "no devices detected"
[10:08] <skipjack> hello has here someone an idea what I must do when I have an Intranet domain (thochguertel.de) and the Internet domain thochguertel.de .. so and when I ping thochguertel.de that I ping out of the Intranet (that I get the Internet IP of this domain) and so that for all other subdomaisn who not registered in bind9 ?
[10:08] <hollywoodb> eilker: me either, but I'm guessing it doesn't, which is a pretty big difference ;)
[10:08] <eilker> hollywoodb: :))
[10:08] <wildchild> what packages do I have to install for compyling?
[10:08] <hollywoodb> wildchild: build-essential
[10:09] <mike__> BusId is PCI:0:5:0
[10:10] <Shaddar> hi ... anyone knows how to change the symbol/image/icon of firefox in the upper left corner ?
[10:10] <stodge> I'll reboot maybe that will help
[10:11] <aimtrainer> hi! Im running edgy on a samsng x11 and my wlan card ipw3945 is detected now (eth1) after having installed the restricted modules. But I cant make it work. knetworkmanager doesnt even find it
[10:14] <shulman> hi all -- I'm having trouble with Firefox 2.0 on Edgy closing out constantly, mostly due to flash. I've tried applying the flash fix to the firefoxrc file without any success. Is there anything else that I should be doing to get flash to work properly?
[10:14] <stodge> That was damn - Kubuntu configured the wrong PCI address in xorg.conf for my card
[10:15] <stodge> (damn = dumb)
[10:17] <hollywoodb> shulman: which flash version are you using?
[10:19] <shulman> hollywoodb: checking now... I installed the latest version off of apt-get
[10:20] <vranikx> hello all, i have problem with playing system sounds in kubuntu, sound in xmms or mplayer are fine, what i must do for correct this error?
[10:21] <shulman> hollywoodb: flashplayer-mozilla is at version 6.0.72-0.2
[10:22] <hollywoodb> shulman: try enabling seveas repo and there you can find update to flash 9 beta... see if that helps resolve the issue
[10:22] <hollywoodb> !seveas | shulman
[10:22] <ubotu> shulman: Seveas has a popular 3rd party repository for several packages. More info (and mirrors) on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[10:22] <vieira> hey need help config mldonkey anyone!?
[10:22] <shulman> hollywoodb: thanks... I'll look into it right now
[10:23] <hollywoodb> shulman: once you get that repo going, 'apt-get install flashplayer-nonfree'
[10:23] <vieira> hollywoodb: hi dude, can u give me some tips config mldonkey?
[10:23] <hollywoodb> vieira: nope. I don't use any P2P apps except the occasional torrent
[10:24] <shulman> hollywoodb: do repositories exist for edgy eft? the page you sent me to only has repos listed for dapper
[10:24] <vieira> hollywoodb: oki thnks
[10:24] <hollywoodb> shulman: yep... just change 'dapper' to 'edgy'
[10:24] <hollywoodb> shulman: something like: deb http://seveas.imbrandon.com/ edgy-seveas all
[10:25] <vieira> hollywoodb: just simple can put any p2p client working in kubuntu
[10:26] <vieira> hollywoodb: i think have to get back to windows on desktop to use p2p client and only use kubuntu on my lapto
[10:26] <denver1> anyone from aust
[10:26] <vieira> p
[10:27] <hollywoodb> vieira: all you have to to for torrent is forward ports 6881-6999 -> your internal IP.  no idea about the rest of p2p clients
[10:27] <vieira> hollywoodb: it's very strange cause every one says to me that it's fine on them, but simple can't pu it work
[10:27] <hollywoodb> vieira: no idea
[10:28] <vieira> hollywoodb: i've done that. i thinks it's a router problem with linux
[10:28] <vieira> hollywoodb: ok dude thnks any way
[10:28] <hollywoodb> vieira: doubt it, I've never had any issues with my router or linux
[10:29] <vieira> hollywoodb: can't tell simple use the same client in the same network and torrent, windows ddl fine in linux 0.0kb
[10:29] <vieira> hollywoodb: i'm tired :(
[10:29] <vieira> hollywoodb: 3 days trying to solve it
[10:29] <shulman> hollywoodb: it's still freezing up firefox
[10:31] <rojikaru> I need more help, on how to set up my sound.
[10:31] <rojikaru> audio
[10:32] <vieira_> hollywoodb: any one that u now that uses p2p clients?
[10:32] <vieira_> hollywoodb: that can help me out of course
[10:33] <hollywoodb> vieira_: see if there's a p2p-related channel
[10:34] <hollywoodb> shulman: did you copy over your ~/.mozilla from a previous installation or upgrade ?
[10:34] <lorenzo_> hello
[10:35] <vieira_> hollywoodb: oki
[10:35] <shulman> hollywoodb: I just upgraded from dapper, and firefox got upgraded
[10:36] <hollywoodb> shulman: try move your ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla.backup or something and try it, perhaps there's something in your firefox profile that's causing issue... also, if you have flash-player-nonfree AND flashplayer-mozilla, remove flashplayer-mozilla and restart firefox... that's about all I can think of
[10:37] <shulman> hollywoodb: One of the internet forums I was going through just mentioned this might be related to the nvidia kernel that I was using on my previous version. I'm going to try upgrading it
[10:37] <walla> has anyone had any problems with an ipod not playing files that were transfered using amarok?
[10:42] <uri3000> alright then, i'm having a bit of trouble here. occasionally, in kde, i have to move my mouse pointer to the side of things to be able to click them. i don't really know how to describe it. i can't move my mouse pointer to the left edge of my screen, and it will go completely off of the right side.
[10:43] <intelikey> i've got something hosed.... i just installed ubuntu and kde and was test running things before i turn it over to it's owner... the three user accounts will use different desktops gnome kde and blackbox   the first run went ok but the second login for bb ; X tripped out and i wanted to test grub settings anyway so i rebooted.  now all i can get for any user is an rxvt terminal   setting the session does nothing to affect t
[10:43] <denver1> has anyone done an apt-get dist-upgrade from dapper to edgy and had any problems?
[10:43] <intelikey> yes denver1 many
[10:43] <denver1> so a clean install is best?
[10:44] <intelikey> best.... meeh  better.
[10:44] <intelikey> anyone on gdm problem ?
[10:45] <hollywoodb> intelikey: I think its safe to assume that most of #kubuntu is using kdm
[10:45] <uri3000> does anyone have any idea what my problem is?  i originally installed ubuntu, and then installed kubuntu-desktop. this problem didn't happen until i installed kubuntu-desktop
[10:45] <uri3000> it sometimes happens in gnome, too
[10:47] <uri3000> if you need more information or don't understand what i'm trying to say or missed my first message, please tell me
[10:47] <intelikey> hollywoodb   i try to not assume too much
[10:47] <intelikey> but xdm does the same thing....
[10:48] <uri3000> what the heck, my mouse works normally now.
[10:49] <Tater> is there anyway to tell how big a partition is on a drive and what filesystem type it is without mounting it
[10:49] <hollywoodb> intelikey: when X "tripped out" and you rebooted, how did you reboot?
[10:49] <intelikey> init 1
[10:49] <intelikey> errr 6
[10:50] <hollywoodb> Tater: sudo parted /dev/hda print all  (assuming /dev/hda is the disk you want info on)
[10:50] <Tater> hollywoodb, sweet thanks
[10:50] <uri3000> and now for my next problem: sound doesn't work properly in kde. i think it's the mixer but I don't know how to fix it. in gnome, using alsaplayer, i can hear sound perfectly, like from flash videos and whatnot, but in kde, the only sound i can hear is the system startup sound.
[10:50] <Ace2016> disable arts?
[10:51] <Acc\Deny> Hello can someone plz check if http://archives.linmodems.org/ really works? I ask it to search for modem and it says nothing...
[10:51] <uri3000> i remember trying that in debian... how does one do that again?
[10:52] <Ace2016> kcontrol > sound & multimedia > Sound System
[10:52] <uri3000> thank you, i'll try that
[10:52] <Ace2016> and uncheck "Enable the sound system"
[10:52] <hollywoodb> Acc\Deny: no matter what I put it says no results found
[10:52] <Tater> hollywoodb, well it just says it can't detect the filesystem on the partitions I'm curious about :P
[10:53] <kubuntu> I have a slight issue
[10:53] <hollywoodb> Tater: using LVM? if not, parted should detect it if they are valid partitions
[10:53] <uri3000> ah! thank you, Ace2016, you rock
[10:53] <Ace2016> np
[10:53] <Tater> hollywoodb, what I'm trying to do is mount the root partition of the hdd from my laptop on my deskktop pc so I can pull some files from it and install edgy then slap it back in the laptop
[10:53] <kubuntu> How do I reset my keyboard?
[10:53] <Tater> hollywoodb, Maybe the drive is toast I dunno, it had dapper drake default install on it
[10:53] <Acc\Deny> hollywoodb: thank you!
[10:54] <Acc\Deny> kubuntu: you are brave to call it a SLIGHT issue :)
[10:54] <Ace2016> uri3000: you could also try setting the "Auto suspend if idle after:" to 1 second so that when an arts app stops using alsa other apps can use it
[10:54] <kubuntu> I'm a brave kinda dude
[10:55] <uri3000> Ace2016: what advantage would that have over just disabling it altogether?
[10:55] <kubuntu> I pressed a multimedia key on the Keyboard and now I can't alt+tab or Alt+space :(
[10:55] <kubuntu> Sooo How can I reset
[10:56] <Tater> hollywoodb, I got the boot partition to mount on that drive but I can't mount the root partition
[10:56] <Tater> no matter what I toss in the fstab
[10:56] <hollywoodb> Tater: is it using LVM ?
[10:56] <intelikey> ok using kdm is even worse.  i don't get anythin but  an error message and back to the xlogin     message 'cannot open theme /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes/kubuntu
[10:56] <Acc\Deny> If linux can't find a driver for a device, does it still create a device file for it in /dev?
[10:56] <Tater> hollywoodb, I have no idea what LVM is
[10:57] <intelikey> at least with gdm the user had an input method....
[10:57] <Ace2016> uri3000: i think some apps require arts for sound output, if you don't use any then there is no need for the sound system to be running
[10:57] <intelikey> Acc\Deny generally speaking no.
[10:57] <hollywoodb> Tater: Logical Volume Management, you can string drives together using one or multiple partitions with it... it doesn't behave like a normal partition
[10:57] <uri3000> Ace2016: ah, okay. i'll see how that works
[10:57] <kubuntu> How can I check what my keys are mapped to?
[10:57] <intelikey> scankeys ?
[10:58] <Tater> hollywoodb, I doubt LVM is enabled then as it was the only drive in my laptop
[10:58] <kubuntu> Oh and Amarok went nuts and I had to kill it
[10:58] <kubuntu> intelikey: moi?
[10:58] <Tater> hollywoodb, there isn't even a cd drive or floppy drive in that laptop just the hdd
[10:58] <intelikey> ja
[10:58] <hollywoodb> Tater: maybe that partition is shot then, hard to say... but some distros (like Fedora Core) set up LVM as default no matter what
[10:59] <Acc\Deny> ok what is the name of hardware detection utility/daemon/tool in ubuntu?
[10:59] <Tater> hollywoodb, It had kubuntu dapper installed on it
[10:59] <Tater> hollywoodb, and everytime I try to mount it I get a must specify filesystem error
[10:59] <kubuntu> intelikey: Do I have to install it
[10:59] <Tater> hollywoodb, is there anyway to try to repair the partition
[10:59] <kubuntu> I think it's just my alt key that's gone
[10:59] <hollywoodb> Tater: well if parted says its an unknown type, that's bad. if you KNOW what type it is you could attempt to run fsck on it
[11:00] <Tater> I'm 99 percent sure its reiserfs
[11:00] <icheyne> has anyone got an opinion on SpinRite? Is it worth getting?
[11:00] <intelikey> kubuntu no i gave the wrong name... let me check.
[11:01] <intelikey> getkeycodes
[11:01] <kubuntu> intelikey: Oh wait :-P I have to do this on a tty console?
[11:02] <intelikey> mmmm terminal might work also...
[11:04] <kubuntu> intelikey: I'm good now :)
[11:04] <compu73rg33k> I like ubuntu, but my family wants to try linux and I think KDE would be a better GUI for them...does kubuntu run well?
[11:04] <kubuntu> The Windows key sticks
[11:04] <compu73rg33k> doing the Windows -> Linux switch :)
[11:04] <klerfayt> compu73rg33k: kubuntu is same as ubuntu
[11:04] <kubuntu> compu73rg33k: You can install both
[11:05] <compu73rg33k> klerfayt: yeah but it's KDE instead of gnome
[11:05] <kubuntu> It's the same but I think that Kubuntu is a bit more persuasive if they are power users and Ubuntu is good if they like simplicity
[11:05] <kubuntu> compu73rg33k: IMHO
[11:05] <compu73rg33k> Hmm they're not power users, but I think KDE is more user friendly to people used to windows
[11:05] <kubuntu> It is
[11:06] <kubuntu> not to discount Gnome it's very easy once you spend a day with them
[11:06] <compu73rg33k> yeah I like gnome but sometimes i feel it's over simplified
[11:06] <Ace2016> kubuntu is like ubuntu but with kde instead of gnome and everyone knows that kde is better so you should use kubuntu :)
[11:06] <kubuntu> I would say to go with the one you are most comfortble with
[11:06] <compu73rg33k> I'm using Gnome right now and I love it
[11:06] <kubuntu> compu73rg33k: Granted this help Chan might be more friendly :)
[11:06] <Electrolyte> I'm thinking of trying it.
[11:06] <compu73rg33k> hehe Ace2016 I say they're both great :)
[11:07] <kubuntu> They are. Different interfaces to the same good gooey core :)
[11:07] <kubuntu> compu73rg33k: Tell you what. Download the Kubuntu Live CD and give it a whirl
[11:07] <compu73rg33k> yeah I already downlaoded it :)
[11:07] <Electrolyte> I'm about to do that with the Ubuntu CD :P
[11:08] <compu73rg33k> just need to finish bakcing up their e-mails which I'm'a go do and then install Windwos (For my brother & his faggot games) and then installing Kubuntu for my parents
[11:08] <compu73rg33k> Kubuntu doens't have any problems with dual booting right?
[11:08] <LjL> !language | compu73rg33k
[11:08] <ubotu> compu73rg33k: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[11:08] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell compu73rg33k about dualboot
[11:08] <Acc\Deny> In Ubuntu how do I unplug/eject a USB device? like in windows u had to right click on the icon in the bottom right corner of system tray....?
[11:08] <kubuntu> Acc\Deny: Is it on the desktop?
[11:09] <compu73rg33k> yeah Mine shows up on my desktop Acc\Deny
[11:09] <Ace2016> Acc\Deny: kde has safely remove and if you plug it in it shows up on the desktop, very slick
[11:09] <compu73rg33k> ubotu: dualboot ?
[11:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about dualboot ? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:09] <Ace2016> when its on the desktop you can right click and do safely remove
[11:09] <compu73rg33k> ubotu: dualboot
[11:09] <ubotu> Dual boot instructions:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBootHowTo (x86/AMD64)  -  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot (Macintosh)
[11:11] <kubuntu> What do I need to install to get MusicBrainz To work?
[11:11] <zeeo> hey i need a good repositorie list can some one help me out with that
[11:11] <Electrolyte> Can you actually use GNome on Kubuntu?
[11:12] <kubuntu> !repos
[11:12] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[11:12] <kubuntu> Electrolyte: Sure
[11:12] <Electrolyte> I'll try the Live CD first :)
[11:12] <Acc\Deny> kubuntu: Ace2016: No idea. I am about to fiddle with a device that I am SURE linux will not recognise... it a microcontoller...
[11:12] <kubuntu> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[11:12] <zeeo> i'm looking for more repositorie
[11:12] <Electrolyte> I want to see how GNome is - if I like it, I'll probably just install Ubuntu.
[11:12] <zeeo> not just how to enable them
[11:12] <Acc\Deny> just wondering how eject is implemented in linux so i dont blow this device....
[11:12] <kubuntu> !easysource
[11:12] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[11:12] <zeeo> thx
[11:13] <s> hello. i need some help please. I want to copy a dvd to another dvd but i don't know how to do this in kubuntu
[11:13] <Ace2016> Acc\Deny: oh i thought you said usb stick
[11:13] <kubuntu> s: try k3b
[11:13] <kubuntu> Acc\Deny: How are you going to be using it?
[11:14] <kubuntu> As a device or on the file system?
[11:14] <zeeo> seems that http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic don't have 6.10 yet
[11:14] <kubuntu> zeeo: I'm fairly certain if you change the word dapper to edgy in whatever you get out it will work
[11:15] <zeeo> k
[11:15] <buzzy> ragazzi ora sembrea che vada....bah
[11:16] <Acc\Deny> kubuntu: No idea yet, its suppose to be a microcontoller or modem device inside this fixed wireless terminal for internet access...
[11:16] <kubuntu> Whee D-Bus is out :)
[11:16] <arriesp> ola
[11:16] <kubuntu> Acc\Deny: Well as long as you don't pipe in something crazy into the /dev device I think you should be good
[11:16] <kubuntu> arriesp: ola
[11:17] <Bubba_Gump> how do I install themes downloaded from KDE-look.org?
[11:18] <kubuntu> Bubba_Gump: It normally has instructions in it
[11:18] <shulman> I just tried reinstalling the nvidia kernel onto my system and managed to hose it so X won't start.  What do I need to do to reinstall it?
[11:19] <Bubba_Gump> kubuntu: i've downloaded three, and all hold no instructions within them
[11:19] <kubuntu> Bubba_Gump: Hmm WHich three?
[11:19] <kubuntu> Gimmie the URLs
[11:19] <Bubba_Gump> k
[11:20] <troy> does anyone know if there are any python 2.5 packages for edgy anyplace?
[11:20] <Bubba_Gump> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=33944
[11:20] <Bubba_Gump> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=29314
[11:21] <troy> nevermind, found them :)
[11:21] <Bubba_Gump> i forget the other one
[11:22] <kubuntu> nstallation:
[11:22] <kubuntu>  1) Unpack the archive.
[11:22] <kubuntu>  2) Click on the file "SmoothGray.kth" from Konqueror.
[11:22] <kubuntu> That doesn't work I'll assume :)
[11:23] <Bubba_Gump> kubuntu: nope :)
[11:27] <pete> It's times like these people get lonely..
[11:27] <LeeJunFan> bye
[11:27] <LeeJunFan> :)
[11:27] <Bubba_Gump> kubuntu: ooh i need deKorator :)
[11:27] <Admiral_Chicago_> netsplit
[11:27] <kubuntu> ah Ok :)
[11:32] <kubuntu> HELLO Hello hello hel....
[11:35] <mentok> hi
[11:35] <ch1x0r> Hello
[11:37] <arriesp> xao
[11:38] <mentok> !ubotu ?
[11:39] <mentok> !ubotu you listening?
[11:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about you listening? - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:39] <mentok> hehe
[11:39] <mentok>  :)
[11:39] <xwolf-> why the heck konqueror won't list all of the directories in the root folder (/) ?
[11:41] <manchicken> Anybody know how to get amarok to work with libmtp and MTP devices?
[11:43] <nu1o0p> hello. how can i make an option (view->viewmode->text) persistant between current folder change ?
[11:44] <nu1o0p>  this setting keeps resetting to the default each time i navigate on a folder.... in konqueror / kubuntu
[11:45] <nu1o0p> guys on kde said kubuntu doesn't have the standard set of menu ("Save view per folder", by example, is not there in kubuntu)
[11:47] <joe3k> nu1o0p: have you tried settings -> save profile?
[11:48] <joe3k> gn
[11:49] <__mikem> Does anyone know about any mathmatical programs I could use to graph equasions that are not functions eg, sin(x)=e^cos(y)
[11:49] <kubuntu> joe3k: Night
[11:49] <kubuntu> __mikem: try kplot
[11:50] <kubuntu> !info kplot
[11:50] <ubotu> Package kplot does not exist in any distro I know
[11:50] <kubuntu> Liar :-)
[11:50] <__mikem> kubuntu, you mean kmplot, that is indeed a graphing program, but it will not graph statements unless they can be solved for one variable
[11:51] <kubuntu> Ah
[11:51] <__mikem> I want a program that can graph equasions that are NOT solved for one variable
[11:51] <kubuntu> Umm Mathematica?
[11:51] <__mikem> I rather not spend 1200 dollars
[11:51] <steveire> Here's a question. In the case of vimrc, bashrc etc, what does the rc mean?
[11:51] <kubuntu> Octplot?
[11:52] <__mikem> NEver heard of it
[11:52] <kubuntu> steveire: Resource Configuration
[11:52] <steveire> kubuntu: cheers
[11:54] <youser> hey guys i was wondering if xorg should be running if imnot using beryl or compiz?
[11:55] <apol> !info kalgebra
[11:55] <ubotu> kalgebra: calculator based on MathML language. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.1.1-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 100 kB, installed size 444 kB
[11:58] <xwolf-> how do i get konqueror to list all the folders in /?
[11:58] <Dr_willis> !hidden
[11:58] <ubotu> Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[11:58] <klerfayt> how to take screenshot of login screen
[11:58] <Dr_willis> or put / in the address bar?
[12:01] <xwolf-> thank you, Dr_willis
[12:01] <manchicken> Anybody?
[12:02] <Dr_willis> manchicken,  huh?
[12:02] <manchicken> I'm trying to get amarok to work with libmtp.
[12:02] <Dr_willis> never heard of libmtp :)
[12:02] <manchicken> There's a very klugy way described if you google it, but it's only 32-bit.
[12:02] <manchicken> It lets amarok manage music on devices like Creative Zen Vision.
[12:02] <Dr_willis> whats it supposed to do?
[12:03] <manchicken> I just told you ^_^
[12:03] <Dr_willis> thats why ive never heard of it i guess. :)
[12:04] <manchicken> I suppose so.
[12:04] <manchicken> I suppose it's just not built in...
[12:04] <manchicken> I tried to build it in, and I can get it working with libmtp.. but then it won't let me use postgresql.
[12:05] <santyago>  !      !!?!?!
[12:05] <nagyv> santyago: according to your name you should prefer also latin,
[12:06] <youser> anyone  know what hald-add-on storage is?
[12:06] <klerfayt> santyago speaks russian
[12:07] <youser> when my system monitor: processes update every few seconds only some processes are there and sometimes lots r there and sometimes none
[12:07] <nagyv> !ru
[12:07] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[12:07] <hollywoodb> !ru | santyago
[12:07] <ubotu> santyago: Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[12:07] <youser> but there used to be a lot of themin there constantly
[12:08] <nagyv> youser: know idea, but probably it is not kde specific, so it can help that #ubuntu could also help (anyway, I'm not an expert)
[12:08] <nagyv> youser: know=no (sorry)
[12:08] <santyago> thank
[12:09] <bkudria> how do i prevent kubuntu from mounting stuff in /media? i have my own autofs setup...
[12:11] <nagyv> bkudria: I think that you should play with udev (or just /etc/udev)