=== theCore [n=alex@modemcable128.255-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Madpilot [n=brian@ubuntu/member/madpilot] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MenZaLap [n=menza@unaffiliated/menza] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === BHSPitLappy [n=steve-o@adsl-65-71-93-15.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === lophyte [n=dsulliva@bas5-toronto63-1096729364.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === lotusleaf [n=lotuslea@kernel-panic/member/carne.asada.burrito] has joined #uBUNtu-marketing [06:17] http://thismight.be/offensive/2006/10/11/index.php?id=18 === Plug [n=crb@203-167-190-117.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tonyyserver [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === ompaul [n=ompaul@gnewsense/friend/ompaul] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === BHSPitLappy_ [n=steve-o@adsl-65-67-112-77.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:38] nixternal: pnig [10:39] !lart fingers [10:39] Sorry, I don't know anything about lart fingers - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi [10:43] @lart fingers [10:45] no ubugtu :) [10:45] didn't know we had ubotu here :) cool. === tsmithe [n=_t_@82-70-109-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [10:46] hello tsmithe [10:48] yo jenda hows it in prague? [10:48] busy :) [10:48] but alive. [10:49] wow... busy. where i live (on a farm a mile from the nearest road) its the opposite [10:49] could anyone suggest why connecting to freenode takes so long for me [10:49] maybe identd business? [10:49] nope [10:49] it takes a while for me too [10:49] because at some houses it comes up in a flash [10:49] (other routers) [10:50] but I have to sit and wait [10:50] anybody here have amd64 or ppc machines? [10:50] nope === BHSPitLappy zzz [10:50] wow this place has suddenly got busy as well! [10:52] Burgundavia: nope, sorry. [10:52] bugger [10:52] why? [10:52] i mean why do you want weird arch users? [10:52] it just wakes up at times :) [10:52] hehe [10:53] jenda: :) [10:53] testing a new script to offer the correct arch for downloading Ubuntuy [10:53] anybody got a Windows machine available? [10:53] does it offer the correct arch to you? [10:53] Burgundavia: if you insist, I could boot up my wink [10:53] win2k [10:53] :/ [10:53] that would be stellar if you could [10:54] send me the user agent string [10:54] argh... :) [10:54] ok, I'll have to log off to do dat [10:54] so, once I boot up, what do I do? [10:54] You could pastebin me the instructions :) [10:54] Burgundavia: i have a win xp qemu machine on [10:55] ubuntu.ca/test.html [10:55] what does that give you?' [10:55] Burgundavia: is tsmithe's good enough? [10:55] yep [10:55] *phew* [10:55] :) [10:55] rescued :) [10:55] Burgundavia: it says "Download now for x86; Download for Other Platforms" [10:55] what sould it say? [10:55] I really hate booting into the thing. I dunno why I still have it on there. [10:56] same here. [10:56] Burgundavia: sorry; im an idiot. that was in my normal firefox! [10:57] Burgundavia: it says "Sorry, I have failed \n Download for Other Platforms". This was in IE6 [10:57] ah, hmm [10:57] can you paste your useragent string here? [10:58] uhuh [10:59] how do i do that? [10:59] isnt it in the logs [10:59] ? [10:59] my ip is 82.70.109.22 [10:59] http://www.useragentstring.com/ [11:00] "U for strong security" [11:00] w00t [11:00] how come? [11:00] Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1) [11:01] I never gave a damn about security... must be the router. [11:01] i have U too (on firefox) [11:01] U is Unix [11:01] aha [11:01] I think [11:01] * N for no security [11:01] * U for strong security [11:01] * I for weak security [11:01] I don't think so :) [11:02] Burgundavia: what is it supposed to do? [11:03] try now? [11:03] it sniffs the current platform and then offers the most logical choice for download [11:03] same [11:03] obviously msie doesnt give out the platform! [11:04] tsmithe: try ubuntu.ca/test.html now [11:04] what does useragentstring.com tell you your platform is? [11:04] same! [11:04] ok [11:04] Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1) [11:04] no, in the lower tabel [11:04] oh... hang on... [11:05] OS-or-CPU? [11:05] Windows XP [11:05] yep [11:05] XP [11:05] not a platform [11:05] i mean arch [11:05] try now [11:06] same [11:06] except you just checked with your firefox browser [11:06] nope [11:06] tail -f works wonders [11:06] i did also just check with firefox [11:06] but with ie as well [11:07] hmm [11:07] also, why is it an "else if" for amd64? dont you want to display both the x86 and x86_64 options? [11:08] sure [11:09] just making it certain I can detect it now [11:09] the eventual plan will be to offer everything, but say "this is what your computer is likely running right now" [11:09] try now [11:09] nope [11:10] navigator.platform.indexOf("Win32") [11:10] ? [11:10] i think that's the windows string [11:10] ok, try that [11:10] good to go! [11:11] rock [11:11] now I need an Win64 user [11:11] a little googling never hurt anyone! [11:11] perhaps Win64? [11:11] hang on [11:11] yep [11:14] "a little googling never hurt anyone!" <-- curiosity killed the cat, don't forget. [11:15] not my cat [11:15] and he's quite curious [11:18] no win64 people in #ubuntu either! [11:19] i should try a windows channel [11:19] got two in ##windows [11:19] damn [11:19] you had better initiative! [11:20] lol: "Replace your 64-bit Windows!" [11:21] does it work for you? [11:21] nope. i'm just looking at the sources! [11:22] i could set up qemu to emulate a 64-bit box. but that might be a bit slow on my 32-bit machine... [11:26] hmm, interesting [11:27] how do we deal with people running 32 browsers on 64 bit OSes? [11:27] because the user agent string tells us nothing [11:28] dunno. [11:28] for now, if we offer all three, current win64 users are probably savvy enough [11:29] prolly [11:30] yeah [11:30] i guess [11:31] I wish I had a digital camera. [11:31] I have 9 little rolls of posters with a black Ubuntu Logo sticker on them. [11:32] I could post it with a 'christmas comes early for some people this year' on the forum :) [11:34] i wish i had a digital camera as well [11:36] tsmithe, your roll is the biggest :) [11:37] yay! [11:38] im gonna put them everywhere! [11:39] lim(x as x->infinity) (15/x) = 0 [11:39] damn i dont have enough! [11:40] how many was i getting again? [11:41] 15 [11:41] [11:42] are there any general marketing tacting that Ubuntu is using to do advocatacy [11:42] so yeah. i dont have enough to put them anywhere [11:42] Admiral_Chicago: education [11:42] i'm doing marketing for a fundraiser at school [11:42] tell people about the benefits, the problems, and the differences [11:42] then give them a cd [11:42] tsmithe: that's what i thought! [11:42] like telling people what it's about [11:43] you'll use all your cds quite quickly [11:43] make sure they know it's different [11:43] i do that all the time, gave a few away tonight [11:43] im still waiting for my next shipment. people seem to prefer the official ones... [11:44] tsmithe: edgy or dapper? [11:44] dapper [11:44] why? [11:45] edgy isn't being a part of the shipits [11:45] but i think you knew that [11:45] i know [11:45] that's why dapper [11:46] (and edgy is quite edgy) [11:46] tsmithe: i trust edgy for clean installs [11:46] not much more [11:46] Admiral_Chicago: show them beryl, and half the job's done :) [11:46] but i have to go to bed [11:46] it's bed time [11:46] jenda: that's what i'm doing at my talk on firday [11:46] yeah. i show them beryl [11:46] Friday* [11:47] indeed. [11:47] i do compiz/XGL, i got compiz to work [11:47] no idea how to switch to Beryl [11:47] xglx is evil [11:47] I'm giving a lecture about accelerated desktop at the technical university in three weeks... [11:47] but i was asking about general marketing, not OS specific [11:47] ...I should learn more about it before I go, though :) [11:48] Admiral_Chicago: we're still learning. [11:48] jenda: mine is on F/OSS /hacking/ Ubuntu community [11:48] cool [11:48] jenda: i know, that's why i'm reporting back to the Ubuntu Chicago LoCa [11:48] LoCo [11:48] @ hacking - mention the hacking capture-the-flag [11:48] Chicago :) [11:48] neat-o [11:49] nix's turf. [11:49] europe's better isnt it jenda? [11:49] jenda: i'm talking about hacking the Gaim Source Code to fix Beta 4 system tray [11:49] reminds me... nixternal: ping [11:49] that guy is okay. [11:49] obviously a dos pong! [11:49] but a jert :P [11:49] okay bed time [11:49] jert? === jenda [n=jenda@ubuntu/member/jenda] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [11:49] jerk! [11:50] that guy (nixternal) is a jerk [11:50] be back in a few [11:50] jenda: did you have a denial of service pong? [11:50] it's way early for me [11:50] 5 in the morning [11:50] going to bed [11:52] tsmithe: it's better for me, because it's home... [11:52] oops :) [11:52] what'd i miss? [11:52] please don't attack people. [11:52] tsmithe: dunno. [11:52] well you went "ping", and then left, so i guessed you'd been flooded with pongs [11:52] a denial of service [11:53] don't think so :) [11:53] But no idea what happened. [11:54] "* You have been kicked from #ubuntu-marketing by -bip (Server disconnected, reconnecting)" [11:54] oh well. bip doesn't like me :) [11:54] what's "bip"? [11:54] wierd [11:55] "* You have been kicked from #ubuntu-marketing by -bip (Server disconnected, reconnecting)" [11:55] what's bip?! [11:55] not even a user! [11:56] it's my IRC proxy :) [11:56] ah! [11:56] my other PC, in other words :) [11:56] why a proxy [11:56] ? [11:57] because that way, you never know I log off [11:57] unless the server cuts me off, like just a while ago. [11:58] I can grab my lappy, disconnect from IRC, go to school, connect again, and you wont' see a thing - and I won't miss a thing, because of backlogs. [11:58] why do i care if you log off? [11:58] if you do and i dont know its weird trying to talk to you! [12:00] [12:00] well, I'll see all the messages when I come back. [12:00] by which time ive gone! [12:01] It's no weirder than leaving IRC on overnigth, which most people do anyway. [12:01] or - many. [12:01] i dont [12:01] most people in this channel definitely do. [12:01] i can tell. [12:01] ive never seen it with less than 26 users [12:01] and its obviously empty lots of the time [12:02] #ubuntu is worse :) [12:02] but that's always active [12:02] never goes under 800, and you hardly see more than 20 people active. [12:03] yeah... 845 just now [12:03] that's a hell of a lot [12:03] (almost as many as at my school!) [12:03] another advantage: I don't need onjoin channels. [12:03] When I join a channel, I'm in it until I decide to leave. [12:03] Or someone decides for me :) [12:04] well i just have xchat join automagically [12:05] yes - but I change my mind often :) [12:05] and besides, I have too many channels for xchat to manage :/ [12:05] ah [12:05] i have 7 [12:05] now 6 [12:06] I prefer not to count them :) [12:06] ut it's around 30 [12:07] i see [12:12] I love using epiphany for editing html [12:12] it uses inotify to pick up local changes and reloads itself [12:13] wow! i should really use epiphany. i just dont like it's tab handling [12:13] sounds spiffy [12:13] what don't you like about its tabs? [12:14] its not ctrl+tab [12:14] to change [12:14] right [12:15] plus firefox is used so often on my machine its preloaded... [01:19] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFAJDbV9Vfs&NR === tsmithe is now known as boogie-monster === boogie-monster is now known as tsmithe === tsmithe is now known as boogie-monster === boogie-monster is now known as tsmithe === tsmithe is now known as boogie-monster === boogie-monster is now known as tsmithe [01:26] having fun? === MenZaLap [n=menza@unaffiliated/menza] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === pradeep [n=pradeep@59.92.92.129] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MenZa [n=menza@unaffiliated/menza] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tsmithe [n=_t_@82-70-109-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [05:31] jenda: pong? [05:32] oi... [05:32] oi :) [05:32] oi [05:32] my workshop last night sucked [05:32] awh diddums [05:32] what was it on? [05:33] intro to ubuntu, basicallt [05:33] basically* [05:34] I tried to improv it too much... [05:34] aww [05:34] wht went wrong? [05:34] well first of all, we had no projector for the first hour [05:35] spent too much time on the install [05:35] why? [05:35] normally >30mins here [05:35] projector down to X.org was it? [05:35] yup [05:35] it didn't work on the livecd [05:35] dear dear [05:35] we should've done a rehearsal [05:35] eek [05:36] yep [05:36] you should've taken an installed machine! [05:36] You never cease to learn :) [05:36] and again, I tried to wing it too much.. [05:36] next time I'll have a solid agenda and stick to it [05:36] thats bad? [05:36] what went wrong there? [05:36] there were 3 people from Ubuntu Toronto including myself.. all of which were trying to lead the workshop [05:36] oh [05:37] so it was really confusing to have people constantly interrupting to add their two cents [05:37] not to mention that their two cents usually included technical jargon that people may or may not be familiar with [05:37] what did the audience think? [05:38] there were one of two folks that seems dissatisfied [05:38] but for the most part they seemed to enjoy it, and they wer epolite and thanked me afterward [05:38] there was only about a dozen people [05:39] well then it wasnt that bad! your always gonna have some humbug whos dissatisfied! [05:39] well I felt it was bad.. mostly because we had 3 people trying to talk [05:40] http://www.linuxcaffe.ca/node/784 [05:40] Next time divide your roles clearly. That goes for all of us :) [05:41] hehe, yeah [05:41] hahaha.. my girlfriend's friend's kid comes in here and asks if he can have a slice of peacock pie [05:41] I was like "uh.. pecan pie? sure.." [05:41] lol [05:42] peacock pie... huh... not sure about that one [05:43] might be a bit stringy... === tsmithe is off to go do english essay again === tsmithe [n=_t_@82-70-109-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [06:41] hmm [06:41] Hey! [06:41] Last night's workshop was great! Thanks to everyone for their very [06:41] valuable input regarding all things Ubuntu. [06:41] perhaps it wasn't so bad :P [06:42] lophyte: huh? [06:42] a sudden change of mood? :) [07:47] jenda: hehe.. no, that was an email from one of the people who attended === zenrox [n=zenrox@pool-71-115-219-183.spknwa.dsl-w.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing [07:54] aha :) [07:54] be sure to include quotes next time [07:55] hehe === tsmithe|away [n=_t_@82-70-109-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === StikkitJim [n=James@cpc1-staf3-0-0-cust99.sol2.cable.ntl.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Plug [n=crb@203-167-190-117.dsl.clear.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === theCore [n=alex@modemcable128.255-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tsmithe [n=_t_@82-70-109-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-68-178.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === poningru [n=poningru@ip72-209-68-178.ga.at.cox.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tsmithe [n=_t_@82-70-109-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tonyyarusso [n=anthony@d235-240-148.home1.cgocable.net] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === samiam [n=samurai@74.134.155.212] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Burgundavia [n=corey@ubuntu/member/burgundavia] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === MitchM [i=fwuser@208.243.85.3] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === dotwaffle [n=dotwaffl@pdpc/supporter/student/dotwaffle] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === popey [n=alan@bishop.popey.com] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === ubotu [n=ubotu@ubuntu/bot/ubotu] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === Admiral_Chicago [n=freddy@66.99.72.2] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === KenSentMe [n=KenSentM@a82-92-80-8.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tsmithe is now known as pyjamamama === pyjamamama [n=_t_@82-70-109-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === pet [i=dp@190.48.157.161] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === topic unset by pet on #ubuntu-marketing === tsmithe_ [n=_t_@82-70-109-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === tsmithe_ is now known as tsmithe === tsmithe is now known as Voyavoda === tsmithe [n=_t_@82-70-109-22.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #ubuntu-marketing === ..[topic/#ubuntu-marketing:pet] : nbhtdnyt === ..[topic/#ubuntu-marketing:pet] : leandrosanchez_607 === tsmithe is now known as encoded === encoded is now known as tsmithe === pet [i=dp@190.48.157.161] has left #ubuntu-marketing []