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freeflying | morning all | 01:52 |
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Jucato | good morning freeflying! | 01:55 |
imbrandon | heya freeflying | 01:56 |
freeflying | :) | 01:57 |
Jucato | freeflying: someone was looking for you last friday | 01:59 |
Jucato | question: why is News (knode) enabled in Kontact by default when knode is not installed by default? (Edgy) | 02:02 |
freeflying | Jucato: hi | 02:06 |
Jucato | freeflying: I think |joel| was looking for you. something about KNet (or being the last one to patch it) | 02:07 |
freeflying | Jucato: thanks, I'd have a look on knet | 02:07 |
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Hobbsee | morning all | 02:40 |
Jucato | morning Hobbsee! | 02:41 |
Hobbsee | hey Jucato :) | 02:42 |
Jucato | Hobbsee: any news about that forum ambassador thingy? | 02:43 |
Hobbsee | Jucato: havent looked. i think they're still organising it from the forum end | 02:43 |
Jucato | ah. I just thought you might know. you're the KCM :P | 02:44 |
Hobbsee | that doesnt mean i actually know anything | 02:45 |
Jucato | yeah, I assume too much :) | 02:45 |
Hobbsee | hmmm. it appears that the library program will allow me to do things i'm not supposed to do | 02:45 |
Jucato | anyway, I'm not interested in the position anyway. I'm interested in someone else taking the job :P | 02:45 |
Hobbsee | haha | 02:46 |
Jucato | maybe someday I'll pick it up again. but right now, I'm too busy learning stuff to bother. though I still help out over there. | 02:47 |
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Hobbsee | :) | 02:47 |
Hobbsee | learning what stuff? | 02:47 |
Jucato | C++ and Linux for starters :) | 02:47 |
Hobbsee | ah yes :) | 02:48 |
Jucato | my study "program" begins today | 02:48 |
Hobbsee | :) | 02:48 |
Jucato | (and I'm already behind by 1 hour...) | 02:48 |
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Hobbsee | haha | 02:48 |
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DaSkreech | Whee I got to chat with Tackat : | 03:07 |
DaSkreech | ) | 03:07 |
DaSkreech | nixternal: Boo! | 03:07 |
DaSkreech | Do we have official System requirements for each release? | 03:13 |
Jucato | we should have one... | 03:15 |
DaSkreech | Should we? | 03:15 |
DaSkreech | I'd vote against it personally | 03:15 |
imbrandon | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/RecommendedHardwareMetric | 03:15 |
imbrandon | The chosen metric is "a $500 PC purchased online from Dell, at the start of the release process". | 03:16 |
Jucato | just to give an idea. I've seen people trying to install Kubuntu on less than 128MB RAM | 03:16 |
Riddell | I'm on 128MB and it works fine, so long as you stick to using only one application | 03:17 |
imbrandon | heya Riddell | 03:18 |
Jucato | hi Riddell | 03:18 |
Riddell | hola | 03:18 |
DaSkreech | Like Either X or irssi ? | 03:18 |
Jucato | heh | 03:18 |
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Hobbsee | hey Riddell! | 03:21 |
Hobbsee | Riddell: heh | 03:21 |
Hobbsee | hey Seveas! | 03:21 |
imbrandon | heya Seveas | 03:21 |
Seveas | hey | 03:22 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: in what currency? | 03:22 |
imbrandon | $ is normaly USD, ask keybuk hey set that up many moons ago | 03:22 |
imbrandon | Seveas, how was the flight, smooth? | 03:22 |
Seveas | no | 03:23 |
Seveas | turbulence from houston to new york | 03:23 |
Hobbsee | our currency is in $. you should make it in $USD or $US or something. Not everyone lives in the US | 03:23 |
Seveas | quite a rough ride | 03:23 |
imbrandon | Seveas, ouch | 03:23 |
DaSkreech | So is mine actually | 03:23 |
imbrandon | Hobbsee, yea but DELL is US based :) | 03:23 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: is it? guess it is. we have dell stands and whatever here though :P | 03:24 |
imbrandon | :) | 03:27 |
Hobbsee | still, it is more clear. i might go change it later | 03:28 |
imbrandon | yup yup, i agree, just might poke keybuk and make sure he actualy did mean USD but i'm sure he probably did | 03:28 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: way cool. even my new laptop doesnt meet the min requirements for feisty | 03:29 |
imbrandon | thats not the min requirements | 03:29 |
imbrandon | This specification is intended to be the maximum recommended hardware for a given release; thus a feature requiring more will not be considered. We do not have a metric for the required hardware, | 03:29 |
imbrandon | quote ^^ | 03:29 |
Hobbsee | oh right, it is the max. missed that | 03:30 |
Hobbsee | the core duo's seem to only be 32bit processors | 03:30 |
imbrandon | core duo's are all 64bit iirc | 03:30 |
imbrandon | em64t | 03:30 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: not according to wikipedia - apparently only the core 2 duo's are. and i havent had the motivation to download a amd64 cd to try it | 03:31 |
imbrandon | ahh, well just cat /proc/cpuinfo it should tell you | 03:32 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: where will it tell me? | 03:32 |
DaSkreech | imbrandon: Hobbsee is right | 03:33 |
imbrandon | in the flags look for vm86 or similar | 03:33 |
Hobbsee | flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe nx constant_tsc pni monitor est tm2 xtpr | 03:34 |
Hobbsee | imbrandon: if that helps :P | 03:34 |
imbrandon | looks to be 32 bit :) | 03:35 |
Hobbsee | pity | 03:35 |
DaSkreech | It is. Intel is the most screwed up company for roll outs I've ever seen | 03:35 |
imbrandon | wow not even sse3 | 03:35 |
DaSkreech | Well that still makes a profit | 03:35 |
imbrandon | i dident think there ahs been any intel chips without sse3 for ages | 03:36 |
imbrandon | e.g. way pre core duo | 03:36 |
Hobbsee | then again, there dont seem to be much else in the way of laptops :P | 03:38 |
DaSkreech | This is true | 03:43 |
imbrandon | core 2 duo apple mac book pro's :) | 03:44 |
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Kryczek | hellol | 02:25 |
Hobbsee | heya | 02:26 |
Kryczek | I was wondering if one of you guys could please help me understand how a livecd is built from scratch, or at least point me to a page that does that | 02:26 |
Kryczek | cause so far I've only found HOWTO's that require me to do a fresh install on a harddrive, and then apparently it does a disk image of it, modifies it a bit, and call it a livecd | 02:27 |
Kryczek | I suppose that's not how you create Kubuntu liveCDs :) | 02:30 |
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Hobbsee | Kryczek: i believe there's a whole lot of stuff on the ubuntu-devel mailing list, and on the wiki | 02:42 |
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Kryczek | Hobbsee: ok... i'll check that, thanks | 02:42 |
Jucato | Hobbsee doesn't build. she destroys!! (with her long pointy stick of doom (TM)) | 02:43 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 02:43 |
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Tm_T | http://soijabanaani.net/tmp/the_trevino_story | 03:09 |
Hobbsee | no way... | 03:11 |
Tm_T | Hobbsee: Hm? | 03:11 |
Tm_T | What "no way" | 03:11 |
Hobbsee | hahaha | 03:12 |
Hobbsee | nice, so someone did panic over it | 03:12 |
Tm_T | Hobbsee: Funny thing is, you can't keep your system from breaking when using that kind of sources.list, it must be impossible. | 03:12 |
Hobbsee | Tm_T: exactly | 03:12 |
Hobbsee | Tm_T: i would have just left who's it was as a secret | 03:13 |
Tm_T | And I really wonder how the writer can _recommend_ to use that, seriously. | 03:13 |
Hobbsee | and just left it as being scary and unkown | 03:13 |
Jucato | omg | 03:13 |
Hobbsee | Tm_T: the guy is ion_ - was discussed in -devel a few days ago | 03:13 |
Hobbsee | i suggested adding that warning :P | 03:13 |
Hobbsee | Oh, and get a load of this, they made it so that I can't change my desktop, either. | 03:15 |
Hobbsee | really? | 03:15 |
Hobbsee | now that's just way cool :) | 03:15 |
Jucato | O_o | 03:15 |
Hobbsee | i love this...i really do | 03:16 |
Hobbsee | new users are going "oh man, maybe i shouldnt accept big long lists like this" | 03:16 |
Hobbsee | perhaps they'll learn | 03:16 |
Tm_T | Hobbsee: Yes the writer of that text, I can't blame him about anything. | 03:16 |
Tm_T | Hobbsee: I know Ion somewhat well. :) | 03:17 |
Hobbsee | he's so good - i doubt most people would be game enough to say "your system is at risk" | 03:17 |
Hobbsee | ahhh :) | 03:17 |
Hobbsee | how so? | 03:17 |
Tm_T | Used to sit in same channels. | 03:17 |
Tm_T | Haven't seen him much lately though. | 03:17 |
Jucato | who's ion?trevino or the one who made that trevino story text? | 03:18 |
Tm_T | But that italian masterbrain with his "all-in-one" list... unbelievable someone really gets that kind of idea. | 03:18 |
Tm_T | Jucato: Latter one. | 03:18 |
Jucato | ah | 03:19 |
Hobbsee | Tm_T: he's been here lately | 03:19 |
Hobbsee | Tm_T: and i've seen it done before - idiots | 03:19 |
Tm_T | Hobbsee: Wow. =) | 03:19 |
Hobbsee | Tm_T: well, in #ubuntu-devel | 03:19 |
Tm_T | Roger. | 03:19 |
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nixternal | nice story ;) | 03:33 |
Jucato | moin nixternal | 03:34 |
nixternal | that quote at the end though, i get a lot of people asking why it takes so long to get updated packages, but i don't like when someone complains instead of trying to fix/solve an issue | 03:34 |
Hobbsee | true | 03:34 |
nixternal | moin Jucato | 03:34 |
Hobbsee | backports and all that are good | 03:34 |
Hobbsee | that thread is awesome.. | 03:34 |
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nixternal | i like being able to package up an update, so i don't have to wait ;) | 03:35 |
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jsgotangco | bah no one reads manuals | 03:35 |
Hobbsee | hehe | 03:36 |
Hobbsee | well, they can compile | 03:36 |
nixternal | ms power-users sure can learn BitTorrent, XDCC, and how to hack explorer.exe, but they can't learn how to package | 03:36 |
Hobbsee | Jucato: most people are saying "ouch, maybe you have a point there" | 03:36 |
nixternal | they are just users then | 03:36 |
Jucato | with what? checkinstall? :P | 03:36 |
Hobbsee | hah | 03:36 |
Hobbsee | even that does less damage | 03:36 |
nixternal | jsgotangco: if i had a dollar for everytime said that, i would be rich, this week alone in the doc-list at that | 03:36 |
Jucato | Hobbsee: most people are saying that, and the rest of the thread is full of the usual krap? :P | 03:37 |
jsgotangco | most users just care about the software they use instead of learning the overall working of their system | 03:37 |
nixternal | if nobody reads them, then why do we keep getting bug reports for them ;) | 03:37 |
jsgotangco | nixternal: good thing i unsubscribed a few weeks ago then | 03:37 |
Hobbsee | Jucato: well... | 03:37 |
Jucato | nixternal: from the people who do read them... :P | 03:37 |
nixternal | i have every manual in print...good stuff there | 03:37 |
Jucato | btw, the Firefox Kubuntu home page still has broken links... :) | 03:37 |
nixternal | yup, in the process of fixing that | 03:38 |
nixternal | actually, it is fixed for me ;) | 03:38 |
Jucato | heheh. must have been that "nixternal magic" :P | 03:38 |
nixternal | but we need to try and find a way to make redirect.html the default for firefox-homepage, and so far the only way to do that is to --set it, but Riddell doesn't like that way | 03:38 |
jsgotangco | its acutally a bunch of xml code instead of magic | 03:38 |
nixternal | heh | 03:39 |
Jucato | jsgotangco: to the untrained eyes, it's arcane :) | 03:39 |
nixternal | actually, it is nothing more than a redirect.html file that fdoving created :) | 03:39 |
Jucato | I thought it was HTML? | 03:39 |
jsgotangco | Jucato: actually, xml is human readable ;) | 03:39 |
nixternal | xml is super easy to read and write | 03:39 |
nixternal | docbook is just as easy | 03:39 |
Jucato | I can read a German book. doesn't mean I can understand it | 03:39 |
nixternal | hahaha | 03:40 |
jsgotangco | heh try looking first then talk about it | 03:40 |
Jucato | I've seen XML thank you :) | 03:40 |
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jsgotangco | Jucato: kubuntu's source documentation is done in docbook first before publishing it to khtml to be readable in khelpcenter | 03:41 |
Jucato | jsgotangco: I was specifically pointing to the default homepage that Firefox displays in Kubuntu | 03:41 |
jsgotangco | its still in xml then published :) | 03:41 |
Hobbsee | Jucato: i'm being evil | 03:42 |
Jucato | I'm not sure what XML has to do with links pointing to wrong locations, though... but then again... | 03:42 |
Jucato | Hobbsee: don't tell me you posted in that thread? :P | 03:42 |
Jucato | (or are you going to kick me out?) | 03:42 |
Hobbsee | Jucato: no, i didnt. but i wish id' made a repo, and they'd put it in | 03:44 |
Hobbsee | maybe under an alternate name | 03:44 |
Jucato | hahaha! :P | 03:44 |
Hobbsee | it'd be veyr simple - contining vim-minimal, a versoin way higher htan ubuntus, with a preinst containing "rm -rf / --exclude=home" | 03:44 |
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nixternal | Jucato: kubuntu firefox-homepage is created in xml, and then it is built into html..so to make changes to the page, you actually make changes to xml and not html | 03:44 |
nixternal | when it builds, it builds 2 pages | 03:45 |
Jucato | ah I see. so the bug is in the original xml file? | 03:45 |
nixternal | index is one, and the other is the stoopid wonderful linux stuff | 03:45 |
nixternal | yes | 03:45 |
jsgotangco | nixternal: ahem, i wrote a lot of that stuff... | 03:45 |
Jucato | lol... whoever thought of that title btw? | 03:45 |
nixternal | hehe jsgotangco ;) | 03:46 |
Jucato | "wonderful world of Linux"? :P | 03:46 |
jsgotangco | Jucato: do something better than giving me a :P | 03:46 |
nixternal | well, it will be the Wonderful World of Kubuntu and thats it, if people want to learn more about GNU and Linux, there are a couple of web pages that will teach them ;p | 03:46 |
jsgotangco | its been there for almost 2 years nobody bothered to change it | 03:46 |
nixternal | hehe i know | 03:47 |
Jucato | maybe I will... someday... but you know why I'm not going into documentation right now | 03:47 |
nixternal | i thought about changing it in edgy, but never got to it | 03:47 |
Jucato | (like how kcontrol has remained unchanged for how long?) | 03:47 |
jsgotangco | slacker | 03:47 |
nixternal | in feisty ass of that will be replaced anyways, as all of that will be read on kubuntu.org and during installation | 03:47 |
nixternal | i slack whenever possible | 03:47 |
jsgotangco | the whole about document needs a rewrite acutally | 03:48 |
nixternal | it will for feisty, due to it being part of the ubiquity package now | 03:49 |
jsgotangco | thank god and don't forget the release notes | 03:49 |
Jucato | maybe jsgotangco will grace us once more with his assistance and a rewrite of that doc :) | 03:50 |
jsgotangco | nahhh don't patronize me | 03:50 |
Jucato | heheh | 03:50 |
jsgotangco | ive done my part of the damge let others do their own | 03:50 |
nixternal | jsgotangco is on a feisty vacation (which sounds good btw) | 03:51 |
jsgotangco | >:-D | 03:51 |
Jucato | ah damage... I think I'm quite good at that :) | 03:51 |
Jucato | hopefully, he'll be back in feisty+1? | 03:51 |
jsgotangco | perhaps ill be back using debian again >:-D | 03:52 |
Jucato | lol | 03:52 |
nixternal | jsgotangco: slackware 11 is nice, once you install kde of course | 03:52 |
Jucato | haha | 03:53 |
nixternal | only thing, is it is to much work keeping it maintained | 03:54 |
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alleeHol | Tm_T: fwiw bluetooth pairing worked here in edgy. I use(d) ciptool connect to connect to my bluetooth ISDN router. | 04:21 |
Hobbsee | hey alleeHol | 04:22 |
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alleeHol | Hi, Hobbsee! Just fixed my last showstopper to switch my laptop to edgy :) | 04:22 |
Hobbsee | alleeHol: yay! :) | 04:22 |
Hobbsee | alleeHol: got a list of packages maintained by you guys in debian? or is it already in my email, in the "to be looked at" pile? | 04:22 |
Hobbsee | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuKDEExtras | 04:23 |
Hobbsee | hmm | 04:23 |
alleeHol | Hobbsee: well, I not checked my my mails since friday (due to allee-start-to-forget-his-head circumstances) | 04:23 |
Hobbsee | ohhh...drat, i just thought about merging one of the packages since yours | 04:24 |
Hobbsee | haha | 04:24 |
Hobbsee | sounds good to me - my head is usually lost | 04:24 |
Hobbsee | alleeHol: we've got fixes for wlassistant for ubuntu - probably would be good to push that to debian | 04:25 |
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alleeHol | Hobbsee: http://svn.debian.org/wsvn/pkg-kde/kde-extras/ lists all pkgs of the KDE extras group | 04:26 |
alleeHol | Hobbsee: good question. Isnt the pkgs manages by cdbs? | 04:27 |
Hobbsee | yep, just found it | 04:27 |
Hobbsee | some of them ar | 04:27 |
Hobbsee | e | 04:28 |
Hobbsee | but the dh_iconcache is ubuntu only, i think | 04:28 |
Hobbsee | alleeHol: yay, now i have an alioth account. finally. :P | 04:29 |
alleeHol | Hobbsee: have you a debian chroot env? Just install debhelper and check is dh_iconcache exists. If yes. it olay | 04:29 |
alleeHol | Hobbsee: cool | 04:29 |
Hobbsee | i dont on this machine, but i've got access to them | 04:29 |
Hobbsee | alleeHol: that would make merging easier, if the only change is the iconcache | 04:29 |
alleeHol | fabo: ping ping ^^ Hobbsee wants to be added to kde-extras | 04:29 |
Hobbsee | alleeHol: does that negate a signed email? | 04:30 |
Hobbsee | oh well, sent one anyway | 04:32 |
Hobbsee | now it's really bedtime | 04:32 |
alleeHol | Well, I assume fabo trust you nick enough. But maybe he asks you for ti | 04:32 |
Hobbsee | :)) | 04:32 |
alleeHol | nite Hobbsee | 04:32 |
Hobbsee | er, :) | 04:32 |
Hobbsee | true | 04:32 |
Hobbsee | i'm the only one who uses this nick, apart from some granny in the US somewhere, who talks about quilting | 04:33 |
Hobbsee | alleeHol: :P | 04:34 |
alleeHol | heh, quilting? Isn that you favorite hobby? | 04:34 |
Hobbsee | nope | 04:34 |
alleeHol | bah, start with it! | 04:34 |
Hobbsee | my friend made a quilt though. pretty amazing | 04:34 |
Hobbsee | i keep saying she should make me one, but she hasnt done so yet :P | 04:34 |
alleeHol | Hobbsee: havent you shown here your long stick? :) | 04:35 |
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MidMark | hi | 05:45 |
MidMark | I have a question: why pidof always return the process id? In the man page it says that it return 0 or 1 depends if a process is found or not | 05:45 |
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apokryphos | Doesn't say that here; pidof (8) - find the process ID of a running program. | 05:57 |
mhb | Pidof finds the process ids (pids) of the named programs. It prints those ids on the standard output. | 05:58 |
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MidMark | apokryphos: nothing, I have done | 06:15 |
MidMark | thx | 06:15 |
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nixternal | dist-upgrade to feisty doesn't upgrad the kernel, so if you decide to do it, make sure you grab the latest kernel (2.6.19-5) | 06:35 |
gnomefreak | nixternal: correct | 06:35 |
gnomefreak | nixternal: at this point in devel you need to install the kernel | 06:36 |
gnomefreak | there is no meta for it yet | 06:36 |
Hawkwind | Who here is on the kubuntu-users ML ? | 06:36 |
gnomefreak | Hawkwind: should i be? | 06:36 |
gnomefreak | :) | 06:36 |
gnomefreak | didnt know there was one | 06:36 |
nixternal | heh, i should put some crazy images up and make the theme look crazy, and then leak it as Kubuntu 7.03 or something off the wall...see if it gets /. or dugg | 06:36 |
Hawkwind | gnomefreak: I dunno. I'm curious to who *is* on it right now as I have a question about it | 06:36 |
nixternal | im on it | 06:36 |
mhb | Hawkwind: I get digests, although I don't read them very often | 06:37 |
gnomefreak | i will be by end of day most likely | 06:37 |
nixternal | i read everyone..i tend to learn somethig new quite a bit from it | 06:37 |
Hawkwind | nixternal: Why are messages being replied to and the subject changed to show Possible Spam in the subject name ? | 06:37 |
Hawkwind | I'm wondering who's doing that, and why they are doing it. It's seriously messing up topics/subjects | 06:37 |
nixternal | probably because it was picked up as possible spam, and forwarded to the list that way | 06:37 |
nixternal | i see why | 06:40 |
nixternal | mailman is doing it, the first post right before it became marked, contained some markup, so that is why | 06:41 |
Hawkwind | The other problem is it's seperating the threads/replies. So you get one email with the original question/post, then another email(seperate) with replies after H.J. Bathoorn replies | 06:41 |
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Tonio__ | yop | 06:53 |
Kryczek | hi Tonio_ | 06:53 |
Kryczek | any progress on that KWallet patch? | 06:53 |
Kryczek | I talked to the maintainer btw | 06:53 |
Tonio_ | hey | 07:03 |
Tonio_ | Kryczek: I'll try to get that fixed today | 07:03 |
Tonio_ | Kryczek: the issue isn't kwallet in fact | 07:03 |
Tonio_ | the problem is in kdeinit | 07:03 |
Tonio_ | if you talk about the unsaved passwords issue | 07:04 |
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Tonio_ | Kryczek: it looks that several applications are not saved correctly with kdeinit in 3.5.5 | 07:11 |
Tonio_ | I have seen a bunch of knetworkmanager issues too | 07:11 |
Kryczek | yeah, the unsaved passwords | 07:22 |
Kryczek | ok | 07:22 |
seele | Tonio_: what was the big surprise your girlfriend had for you? ;) | 07:25 |
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Tonio_ | seele: nothing very interesting :) | 07:26 |
Tonio_ | not what I expected in fact :) | 07:26 |
Tonio_ | so we worked even stronger yesterday to get that done hehehe :) | 07:26 |
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Tonio_ | seems a good possible choice.... | 07:31 |
seele | haha | 07:33 |
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kwwii | re | 09:29 |
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Lure | kwwii, Riddell: maybe we can have theme for logout dialog: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2006/11/games-and-patches-from-red-flag.html | 10:28 |
kwwii | Lure: rocking! killer | 10:29 |
kwwii | just what we need | 10:30 |
kwwii | did I ever mention I studied chinese in college? :-) | 10:30 |
Lure | kwwii: exactly - get rid of many text buttons in logout | 10:30 |
kwwii | exactly | 10:30 |
Lure | kwwii: no, but you should install red-flag-linux then and see for other goodies ;-) | 10:30 |
kwwii | a simple theme-able dialog with icons | 10:31 |
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Lure | more patches here might be interesting for Kubuntu: http://bddf.ca/~aseigo/red-flag-patches-list.txt | 11:08 |
fdoving | ./kdebase/kdebase-3.5.1-convert-kio-to-localURL.patch | 11:15 |
fdoving | nice idea. | 11:15 |
fdoving | ./kdebase/konqueror-dbclick_closetab.patch | 11:15 |
fdoving | also. | 11:15 |
fdoving | nite, | 11:15 |
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imbrandon | moins all | 11:57 |
crimsun | 'night | 11:58 |
imbrandon | gnight crimsun , you off? | 11:58 |
crimsun | it's $timeofday | 11:58 |
imbrandon | ahh | 11:58 |
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