[12:12] <bkudria> nagyv: hmm,, i bet that would break lots of stuff
[12:12] <bkudria> nagyv: i think i'll just nuke my setup
[12:13] <nagyv> bkudria: not for sure, actually I just wanted to give constant name to sd? devices, and I could find out how to do it quite easily
[12:14] <bkudria> nagyv: oh, yes, that's simple
[12:16] <delight> !svn
[12:16] <ubotu> svn is Subversion: an open-source revision control system, which aims to be a compelling replacement for CVS. See http://subversion.tigris.org/
[12:16] <delight> !svk
[12:16] <ubotu> svk: A Distributed Version Control System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.08-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 319 kB, installed size 1160 kB
[12:19] <nagyv> could someone help me? I like a lot the amarok cover-manager script, but wanted to place its imagemagick window below the desktop icons (I don't know if it is possible), so I set the windows attribute to be 'DEsktop", and now I can not get to the window's special properties windows.
[12:21] <hollywoodb> nagyv: System Settings -> Window Behaviour -> Specific settings
[12:26] <nagyv> hollywoodb: thx
[12:28] <delight> !wiki
[12:28] <ubotu> wiki is http://wiki.ubuntu.com - Loads of user-contributed documentation
[12:31] <amundsen> hi
[12:31] <youser> is there a way i can make my nick register automatically every time i log ontofreenode
[12:31] <amundsen> is edgy eft being more buggy than others or it just goes fine ?
[12:31] <hollywoodb> youser: depends on your client
[12:32] <youser> xcht gnome .11?
[12:32] <youser> so i need a script client?
[12:32] <hollywoodb> youser: I don't know about xchat-gnome, but you can do it with plain ol' xchat... I use Konversation myself
[12:32] <youser> i got er done
[12:33] <youser> thanks though
[12:33] <svilen> svilen is away for now
[12:33] <hollywoodb> !away | svilen_away
[12:33] <ubotu> svilen_away: Please don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines
[12:36] <P-a-gman> ._.
[12:42] <TheRealCfreak> I'm having problems with Kopete .. .it says its continuosly connecting. People can message me but I can't see my buddy list ... anyone else seen this?
[12:43] <TheRealCfreak> Happens with AIM and ICQ
[12:43] <Jack1> can someon help me?login prob after edgy upgrade, gnome starts only with startx
[12:43] <Th3_Cr0up13R> is it possible to run steam on linux ? without wine?
[12:43] <Dr_willis> Th3_Cr0up13R,  i would guess thats a NO. :)
[12:44] <Jack1> it kicks me out otherwise back to the login screen
[12:44] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i been looking and all require wine
[12:45] <Dr_willis> Th3_Cr0up13R,  wine or its variants are neeede to run windows executyables under linux.. correct.
[12:45] <Dr_willis> Cedega would be the best tool for running windows games under linux.
[12:47] <TheRealCfreak> anyone else having problems with Kopete?
[12:48] <Armagguedes> i couldn't get Kopete to display on its gUI a decent fontsize
[12:48] <Tater> hey all having a problem with the kubuntu 6.10 install cd it seems to just freeze
[12:48] <zeeo> try kmess
[12:48] <Armagguedes> so i swapped it for GAIM
[12:48] <TheRealCfreak> Armagguedes: I can't get it to connect properly
[12:48] <TheRealCfreak> I might have to do that
[12:48] <yanis> what is the password of the ubuntu user when a live cd is used?
[12:48] <zeeo> try kmess its way better then gaim
[12:49] <gsuveg> re
[12:49] <gsuveg> can i sync my calendar with my z530i mobile via bluethoot ?
[12:49] <Tater> anyone know of any issues that would stop the install cd from working?  I did a check cd fromt he install menu and it says its fine so I'm at a loss for whats happening
[12:52] <Th3_Cr0up13R> Dr_willis: YES I think
[12:52] <Th3_Cr0up13R> but i thought there would be some version of steam under linux
[12:52] <Th3_Cr0up13R> http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=1554&iTestingId=6827
[12:52] <Th3_Cr0up13R> found this
[12:52] <Th3_Cr0up13R> but it still requires wine and when i try to download it
[12:52] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i cannot open it with wine
[12:53] <Th3_Cr0up13R> probably i have to put it in the apps directory of wine
[12:55] <Th3_Cr0up13R> when i try to install it its says something about a GLC4D7.TMP not found
[12:55] <Th3_Cr0up13R> any ideas why
[12:56] <hollywoodb> Th3_Cr0up13R: do you have an exe file?
[12:56] <Th3_Cr0up13R> yes Steaminstall.exe
[12:56] <hollywoodb> Th3_Cr0up13R: alright, did you just install wine for the first time?
[12:56] <Th3_Cr0up13R> downloaded from the url above
[12:56] <Th3_Cr0up13R> yes some 1 week ago i think
[12:57] <Th3_Cr0up13R> but i run something like amule or something for a test and it worked
[12:57] <hollywoodb> Th3_Cr0up13R: alright, run 'winecfg' and make sure things look OK... then run 'wine Steaminstall.exe' ... that's it
[12:57] <Th3_Cr0up13R> it even created a folder on my start menu
[01:00] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i added application from winecfg and now i get GLC160.tmp
[01:02] <hollywoodb> Th3_Cr0up13R: how did you manage to add an app via winecfg? Its a settings dialog for devices and such
[01:04] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hollywood
[01:04] <Th3_Cr0up13R> under wincfg there is an option which says add application so
[01:04] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i added the Steaminstall.exe
[01:05] <Th3_Cr0up13R> under the application settings but it looks like it didnt work
[01:05] <Th3_Cr0up13R> its not there anymore
[01:05] <Th3_Cr0up13R> ooops, maybe that was wrong
[01:06] <Th3_Cr0up13R> also i get that my system32 directory is not accessible at the terminal when i run the winecfg
[01:08] <Th3_Cr0up13R> now i get application tries to create a window, but no driver could be loaded
[01:09] <Th3_Cr0up13R> any ideas what could be happening , or how could i make this run
[01:09] <Th3_Cr0up13R> what drivers do i need?
[01:11] <Dr_willis> that 'applications' thing under winecfg is just so you can for example run bubba.exe on a wine instance thats emulating win95, and foobar.exe on a winXP emulated session.
[01:11] <Dr_willis> for steam i am guessing it will want winxp.
[01:14] <hollywoodb> Th3_Cr0up13R: I guess I've never had issue with it, maybe try #winehq
[01:17] <Red_Herr1ng> BEEN A WHILE.
[01:18] <Jucato> !caps | Red_Herr1ng
[01:18] <ubotu> Red_Herr1ng: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[01:18] <Jucato> :P
[01:18] <Red_Herr1ng> @lart Jucato
[01:18] <dori> how do you disable the bouncing icon launch feedback?
[01:18] <dori> system wide
[01:18] <Jucato> dori: edgy or dapper?
[01:18] <dori> edgy
[01:19] <dragonfly7> Is there are way to make my cursor larger. I have a 1600*1200 monitor, but it is only a 15 inch screen, so it is hard to spot sometimes.
[01:19] <Jucato> dori: press Alt+F2, type "kcontrol", then in Appearance & Themes, look for Launch Feedback
[01:19] <Red_Herr1ng> dragonfly7: no.... really no....
[01:19] <Red_Herr1ng> so anyways
[01:19] <Red_Herr1ng> lets talk about politics
[01:19] <Red_Herr1ng> who says republicans?
[01:19] <Jucato> Red_Herr1ng: ahem :P
[01:19] <dori> Jucato: there is no Appearance & Themes, there is only Appearance and I can't find it in there
[01:20] <Red_Herr1ng> Jucato: exactly.
[01:20] <Jucato> dori: did you launch KControl, as I said?
[01:20] <Red_Herr1ng> REPUBLICANS ARE THE END OF THE WORLD!!!!
[01:20] <Jucato> dori: you're looking at System Settings. I said kcontrol
[01:20] <dragonfly7> Red_Herring: if I say Republicans will you help me?
[01:20] <dori> Jucato: bah you're right, thought they were the same
[01:20] <Hawkwind> Red_Herr1ng: Enough please
[01:20] <Red_Herr1ng> dragonfly7: no in fact the opposite
[01:20] <[Relic] > Any known problems with a nvida 5200 series AGP card and kubuntu?
[01:20] <dragonfly7> Apparently not. I am green/democratic.
[01:20] <Jucato> dori: Launch Feedback was accidentally left out. it's a bug
[01:21] <dori> Jucato: thanks
[01:21] <Red_Herr1ng> dragonfly7: i remember at one time there Was a way to change the cursor....
[01:21] <dragonfly7> So... Cursor size?
[01:21] <Red_Herr1ng> look under mouse
[01:21] <Red_Herr1ng> well course
[01:21] <dragonfly7> Ok, I will try that.
[01:21] <Red_Herr1ng> k
[01:21] <Red_Herr1ng> NEXT
[01:21] <Jucato> Red_Herr1ng: let's not get too carried away, shall we?
[01:21] <Red_Herr1ng> Jucato: fine, ill go back to -offtopic where i belong
[01:21] <Jucato> #kubuntu does have rules :P
[01:21] <Hawkwind> See ya
[01:22] <dragonfly7> Nope, its not there. I think it is in XFce, but not this.
[01:22] <cmccartney> I have an nvidia 5200 and the only way I was able to install the drivers on Dapper was to use Automatix2
[01:22] <Red_Herr1ng> dragonfly7: hrmmmm.... i say waste your time brousing around system-settigns till you find it
[01:22] <Hawkwind> cmccartney: I have the same card and have used both Dapper packages and the drivers from nvidia.com
[01:22] <lucky_> Do any of you know what graphics programs would work perfectly if I were working with doll bases
[01:22] <Red_Herr1ng> cuz i havent tinkered with that since... ohh... dapper rc3 maybe
[01:23] <Red_Herr1ng> so im pretty sure a bit has changed =d
[01:23] <[Relic] > I have a previous nvidia for the mx440 installed already so I am hoping for not too much of an update  :)
[01:23] <dragonfly7> Red_Herring: OK, I will (continue) to try that.
[01:23] <Red_Herr1ng> hehe
[01:24] <DaSkreech> tackat: Hello
[01:25] <[Relic] > off to try this card  :)
[01:25] <tackat> DaSkreech: hiu
[01:25] <DaSkreech> tackat: How are you?
[01:25] <tackat> DaSkreech: Fine. Who are you?
[01:26] <DaSkreech> This guy. I'm trying to recall why I wanted to talk to you
[01:26] <DaSkreech>  marble?
[01:26] <tackat> I'm the author of Marble, yes
[01:27] <DaSkreech> ah excellent
[01:27] <Jucato>  <DaSkreech> This guy. I'm trying to recall why I wanted to talk to you <--- hehehe :P
[01:27] <DaSkreech> :-D
[01:27] <DaSkreech> I had an idea for a few things for KDE and I was pointed at you
[01:28] <DaSkreech> Can you sum up Marble for me?
[01:28] <dragonfly7> So... Does anyone know why Superkaramba would change my resolution to 640*480 and freeze?
[01:28] <DaSkreech>  I thought it was the marble landset
[01:28] <Red_Herr1ng> witchcraft?
[01:28] <dori> is there a power management control in kubuntu/kde in edgy?
[01:29] <DaSkreech> dori: Guidance I think
[01:29] <dragonfly7> Red_Herring: Wow, you are right again. You have been so helpful.
[01:29] <campbch> hmm...
[01:29] <_matt_> dragonfly7: Why do you think it's superkaramba?
[01:29] <Jucato> kde-guidance-powermanager
[01:29] <DaSkreech> tackat: perhaps O-T or #kde ?
[01:30] <Jucato> perhaps PM? :P
[01:30] <campbch> i figured i would get around to installing edgy, and the release notes say just to gksu "update-manager -c", and i installed that, but it isn't working.
[01:30] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Naw those give me headaches
[01:30] <Jucato> bwhehe
[01:30] <dragonfly7> matt: Because I have been doing the same thing (ie: not installing anything, same apps) for maybe 30 reboots. Then I install karamba, and next time I reboot I am in tiny-resolution.
[01:31] <dori> is guidance the program that shows up in the system tray?
[01:31] <DaSkreech> Si
[01:31] <Jucato> kde-guidance-powermanager does, afaik
[01:31] <tackat> DaSkreech: Marble is a generic MapWidget, a great KDE-Edu Application and KDE's future Geo Framework ;-)
[01:32] <DaSkreech> The GeoFramework is where I'm interested
[01:32] <_matt_> dragonfly7: That's the only thing you did?
[01:32] <tackat> DaSkreech: what are you interested in?
[01:32] <DaSkreech> Can I build a GIS app on top of it?
[01:32] <Jucato> ooh *that* Marble! :)
[01:32] <campbch> anyone know how to use upgrade-manager to get edgy?
[01:32] <tackat> DaSkreech: It's rather targeted at simple desktop usage right now
[01:32] <DaSkreech> so is my app
[01:32] <campbch> it says to use gksu, which i installed, but it keeps saying bad device
[01:33] <DaSkreech> It's GIS for Dummies :)
[01:33] <dragonfly7> matt_: Yes, I installed it, ran a widget (or whatever they are called), it frooze, I ended it, and next time I rebooted i was in the small resolution.
[01:33] <tackat> DaSkreech: If you want a full blown GIS for professionals you'd rather look at QGIS
[01:33] <DaSkreech> campbch: You can use kdesu
[01:33] <Jucato> campbch: use kdesu
[01:33] <campbch> :o ok
[01:33] <tackat> DaSkreech: or stuff like that :)
[01:33] <lucky_> #doll base
[01:33] <DaSkreech> tackat: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/GISDesktop
[01:34] <_matt_> dragonfly7: What was the "theme" you ran.  And have you restored your resolution?
[01:35] <tackat> DaSkreech: looks very similar to what I'm working towards :)
[01:35] <DaSkreech> Excellent. Do you have a wiki page up or a Brain Dump?
[01:35] <DaSkreech> I havea Brain I need to dump ;-)
[01:35] <dragonfly7> matt: I ran a system monitor thing. I forgot what it was called. My resolution is restored.
[01:35] <tackat> DaSkreech: I have some older Blog entries
[01:35] <_matt_> dragonfly7: have you tried another theme?
[01:36] <DaSkreech> tackat: Umm. Yeah .. I've found that blogs don't seem to give good responses
[01:36] <DaSkreech>  I've been trying to Get Knoware up for about three months using blogs
[01:36] <tackat> http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble10.jpg
[01:36] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Umm Have recycle bin?
[01:36] <tackat> http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble9.jpg
[01:36] <Jucato> DaSkreech: no. that trash bin was CLI-based on ext3. no undelete :P
[01:37] <tackat> http://developer.kde.org/~tackat/marble/marble7.jpg
[01:37] <tackat> DaSkreech: that's about more recent screenshots
[01:37] <DaSkreech> tackat: Neat
[01:37] <DaSkreech> it looks very good
[01:38] <DaSkreech> And looks very much like a Kubuntu Box :)
[01:38] <Jucato> are you crazy? it doesn't look very good.
[01:38] <Jucato> it looks awesome!!
[01:38] <tackat> It's currently a viewer that displays a worldmap with a minimum of data (5 MB for vectors, a tiled bitmap and kml placemarks
[01:39] <campbch> alright, it finds the upgrade, downloads an upgrade tool, but then the tool does not run returning no error?
[01:39] <DaSkreech> tackat: and no project page yet?
[01:39] <tackat> It "mixes" vector data and bitmap on the fly, maps that onto a sphere and does bumpmapping for each frame
[01:39] <Jucato> campbch: trying to upgrade to Edgy?
[01:39] <campbch> yyeessssssss....
[01:39] <Jucato> !upgrade | campbch
[01:39] <ubotu> campbch: See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[01:39] <tackat> DaSkreech: in preperation
[01:39] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Jucato to eat breakfast
[01:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about  tell Jucato to eat breakfast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[01:39] <tackat> DaSkreech: there's a pdf in KDE svn though
[01:39] <Jucato> lol
[01:40] <gnomefreak> i tried
[01:40] <Jucato> heheh
[01:40] <Jucato> ok ok I will
[01:40] <tackat> DaSkreech: and although it looks a bit like a tiny GoogleEarth it doesn't require OpenGL
[01:40] <DaSkreech> tackat: Under playground?
[01:40] <tackat> DaSkreech: It just uses Qt4's Arthur backend
[01:40] <campbch> :p ok, it just said not to use apt-get to do it
[01:40] <Th3_Cr0up13R> how do i get drivers for wine?
[01:40] <DaSkreech> tackat: I read that much :)
[01:41] <tackat> trunk/playground/base/marble :)
[01:41] <Jucato> gnomefreak: I'm on the other side of the world
[01:42] <Jucato> ok going now... :P
[01:47] <DaSkreech> I'm hunting Wabiits
[01:47] <DaSkreech> Wabbits :-)
[01:50] <tobias_> :D
[01:50] <tobias_> Leave da Wabbits alone!
[01:51] <Hawkwind> Th3_Cr0up13R: Have you asked in the channel that is best for Wine, #WineHQ ?
[01:51] <xoxo> hello, when i click a hyperlin in KMAIL, it opens the cache version but not the actually website, does anyone know how to fix that?
[01:54] <eilker> which command show my wan ip from console?
[01:54] <xoxo> ifconfig i think
[02:00] <eilker> ifconfig shows lan ip...not wan ip...
[02:01] <xoxo> try iwconfig
[02:02] <eilker> xoxo: it is for wireless connection...
[02:05] <rapha> ae
[02:06] <Armagguedes> in OpenOffice.org Math, how do i use multi-line brackets ({}) ? what is the command to make it expand several lines?
[02:08] <[cf] nightrid3r> eilker: you'll have to check that on your router
[02:10] <BluesKaj> good evening all!
[02:11] <eilker> [cf] nightrid3r: i know it, but there was a command to see from console too
[02:11] <natex> ello
[02:11] <compu73rg33k> hey if I have a sata drive
[02:11] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Welcome!
[02:12] <compu73rg33k> and trying to install grub to the mbr, would the mbr be hd0 ?
[02:12] <BluesKaj> Hiya DaSkreech
[02:13] <compu73rg33k> I installed kubuntu but when I hcose the option at bootup it failed right away
[02:13] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, I've had some really good help in here the last few days
[02:13] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: What!!! Wat have these hacks been doing to you before the past few days!!!!
[02:13] <BluesKaj> restores my faith in ppl
[02:14] <natex> compu73rg33k: any error message?
[02:14] <DaSkreech> :-D
[02:14] <BluesKaj> hehe, nothing but good advice DaSkreech :)
[02:14] <[cf] nightrid3r> compu73rg33k: mbr is on sda if you only have SATA drives
[02:14] <sara> Hello Everyone
[02:15] <BluesKaj> for my printer setting up samba to communicate with my windows network ...ver y happy about that
[02:15] <DaSkreech> and it works now?
[02:15] <DaSkreech>  how's your wife with it?
[02:16] <sara> Can anyone help me get my wireless card to work?  The wireless device automatically finds connection, but I can not connect
[02:18] <sara> can anyone help me with wireless?
[02:18] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: You were saying? :)
[02:18] <BluesKaj> wifey's pc isn't affected , she can still her thing on it ...windows is gonna stay on her pc for a while longer until I figure a way to change her mind ;0
[02:18] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: does your wlan use encryption
[02:19] <sara> yes, i used to have wpa, but I changed to wep 64 bit
[02:19] <sara> in hopes that would fix it.
[02:19] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: did you install the same key's on both ends
[02:19] <sara> on the router?
[02:20] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara yes and on your box too
[02:20] <sara> i have a windows laptop that works
[02:20] <sara> on the same key
[02:21] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: then you should check the key on the linux box
[02:21] <sara> I have tried it twice, I have even tried connecting to no-ecnrypted network (next door) that used to work and connection fails for it too.
[02:22] <nkRush> is there a way to get my 4th (and 5th) mouse button working on edgy like it does under winxp, forth and back?!
[02:22] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara can you see wlan's on the linux box
[02:22] <sara> yes
[02:23] <sara> it shows the essid under wireless 0.5.5
[02:23] <Kooboontoo> folks, I'm trying to remove OpenOffice, but some packages require to remove language-support-en as well... do you know if it's safe to remove it, or there is a safer way to remove OO?
[02:24] <[Relic] > can't get automatix installs since it dies on removing the nvida glx legacy even though I haven't told it to remove it  :(
[02:24] <sara> I think there might be a problem with the driver
[02:24] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: then it has te be an encryption problem, i can't help you any further cos i don't have wireless myself :(
[02:24] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: *Cough* *cough* introduce virus on teh network *cough*
[02:24] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: could be
[02:25] <sara> [cf] nightrid3r, do you know of any wrappers for windows drivers to be used on linux?
[02:25] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: ndiswrapper
[02:25] <BluesKaj> well DaSkreech, her pc is pretty old , as soon as crashes ...I'll rescue it ;)
[02:25] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: but i think its better to just use linux drivers
[02:26] <sara> [cf] nightrid3r, wonder if I can find a better driver.  this one just came with the install.
[02:26] <[Relic] > got it  :)
[02:26] <sara> I just freshly installed kunbuntu
[02:26] <DaSkreech> Jucato: Had dinner?
[02:27] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: maybe you could but are you capable of compileing kernel modules ?
[02:27] <Jucato> DaSkreech: breakfast :)
[02:27] <sara> NO
[02:27] <DaSkreech> Does edgy ship with gcc?
[02:27] <sara> my computer, maybe but not my mind
[02:27] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: then getting another driver will be no option for you at this moment
[02:27] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Of course
[02:27] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: What Linux distro doesn't ship with gcc ?
[02:28] <sara> [cf] nightrid3r, could you tell me how to use the wrapper?
[02:28] <DaSkreech> Hawkwind: :-p it never shipped with it up to dapper
[02:28] <Jucato> DaSkreech: it does not install it by default
[02:28] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Yes it does
[02:28] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: It's just not installed by default, as it is on most distros
[02:28] <BluesKaj> can kubuntu be installed on a 366mhz pc with only 256Ram and 6G HDD ?
[02:28] <Jucato> Hawkwind: I think that's what he meant by "ship with"
[02:28] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: sorry, i have never used ndiswrapper myself
[02:29] <Kooboontoo> folks, I'm trying to remove OpenOffice, but some packages require to remove language-support-en as well... do you know if it's safe to remove it, or there is a safer way to remove OO?
[02:29] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Well it *ships* gcc, just not installed by default.  Big difference in wording
[02:29] <[cf] nightrid3r> !ndiswrapper
[02:29] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:29] <DaSkreech> It doesn't ship with Xen though so I'm still peeved
[02:30] <Hawkwind> DaSkreech: Xen support in *Ubuntu is pretty much non-existant right now, which is a real shame
[02:30] <sara> Thats okay I will wiki it!  thanks [cf] nightrid3r
[02:30] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: what kind of wirelesscard you have
[02:30] <sara> airlink, usb
[02:30] <sara> i spent 9 dollars on it
[02:31] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Xen blows vmware away
[02:31] <Jucato> (why aren't you using it then? :P)
[02:31] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Xen allows you to run your 3D drivers and tons of other things
[02:31] <Jucato> heheh j/k brb :P
[02:31] <DaSkreech> Xen is the <COC respected here>
[02:31] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Because I don't understand it yet
[02:32] <[cf] nightrid3r> sara: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/67607
[02:32] <sara> what is this?
[02:33] <dhuv> hello all, I am trying to find out which script is called when I right click on the batter icon and choose suspend
[02:33] <Jucato> Hawkwind: it already allows you to use 3D drivers already? that'd be cool :)
[02:33] <[cf] nightrid3r> some instructions to get it working
[02:34] <DaSkreech> dhuv: batter?
[02:34] <Hawkwind> Jucato: Oh yeah.  Xen is very very advanced
[02:34] <dhuv> I need to edit it because I need to tell it to unload the usb modules before sleep and load them after it comes back
[02:34] <Hawkwind> Jucato: However, it's also quite complex at the same time
[02:34] <dhuv> DaSkreech: batter?
[02:34] <Jucato> I'll keep my eye on it then :P
[02:34] <dhuv> battery
[02:34] <dhuv> :)
[02:35] <sara> thanks [cf] nightrid3r
[02:36] <dhuv> the /etc/acpid/events/ directory has script that are called when you press the buttons on the keyboard
[02:36] <dhuv> but I dont know which one is called when I choose suspend from the menu
[02:39] <DaSkreech> Hobbsee: Hob!!!
[02:39] <Hobbsee> hey DaSkreech
[02:39] <DaSkreech> How are you?
[02:40] <DaSkreech> !qt4
[02:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about qt4 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:40] <Red_Herr1ng> !qt
[02:40] <ubotu> qt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.
[02:41] <Red_Herr1ng> isnt windows written with a lot of qt?
[02:41] <DaSkreech> Why is Ctrl+W right beside Ctrl+Q ?
[02:42] <Jucato> Red_Herr1ng: Windows as in MS Windows? no
[02:42] <Jucato> DaSkreech: because W is beside Q?
[02:42] <DaSkreech> Yes I can see that
[02:43] <DaSkreech> Why would you want to make close sub (unimportant) section of app right beside shut down all (including important stuff) right beside each other
[02:43] <fatejudger> for some reason I can't see the bootsplash on my laptop
[02:43] <fatejudger> I hate these stupid dell laptops
[02:43] <fatejudger> is there any reason behind this?
[02:44] <fatejudger> I could see it in Dapper
[02:44] <Jucato> DaSkreech: I don't know why Ctrl+W became the standard "Close Tab" shortcut, but I find Ctrl+Q very intuitive...
[02:44] <DaSkreech> Me too I once every few months mix them up and want to pour treacle over who came up with that combo
[02:45] <Jucato> although, I wouldn't blame the combo for PEBKAC :P
[02:47] <[Relic] > for the nvidia drivers is it best to try the packgage or install the ones from nvida?
[02:49] <Jucato> [Relic] : if you don't absolutely need the latest from NVIDIA, just install nvidia-glx. it's less problematic (most of the time)
[02:50] <[Relic] > can't seem to remove the legacy one  :(
[02:50] <Jucato> which one?
[02:51] <[Relic] > legacy glx
[02:51] <Jucato> I think if you install nvidia-glx, it will automatically remove that one
[02:52] <[Relic] > it won't it keeps erroring out
[02:53] <[Relic] > There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[02:54] <[Relic] > yay! automatix seems to be working
[02:55] <[Relic] > nope
[02:57] <Hawkwind> !info libdvdcss
[02:57] <ubotu> Package libdvdcss does not exist in any distro I know
[02:57] <Hawkwind> !info libdvdcss2
[02:57] <ubotu> libdvdcss2: Simple foundation for reading DVDs - runtime libraries. In component extras, is optional. Version 1.2.9-0.0ubuntu4 (edgy-seveas), package size 33 kB, installed size 112 kB
[02:58] <ubuntu> Hi all, my installation just crashed :(
[02:58] <ubuntu> I recieved this message
[02:58] <pam> just got a fresh install I have a few questions
[02:58] <ubuntu> Traceback (most recent call last):
[02:58] <pam> How can I change the 24 hour clock to 12 hour clock
[02:58] <ubuntu>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 166, in ?
[02:58] <ubuntu>     main()
[02:58] <ubuntu>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 161, in main
[02:59] <ubuntu>     install(sys.argv[1] )
[02:59] <ubuntu>   File "/usr/bin/ubiquity", line 57, in install
[02:59] <ubuntu>     ret = wizard.run()
[02:59] <ubuntu>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py", line 338, in run
[02:59] <ubuntu>     self.process_step()
[02:59] <ubuntu>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py", line 828, in process_step
[02:59] <ubuntu>     self.progress_loop()
[02:59] <ubuntu>   File "/usr/lib/ubiquity/ubiquity/frontend/kde-ui.py", line 602, in progress_loop
[02:59] <ubuntu>     raise RuntimeError, ("Install failed with exit code %s; see "
[02:59] <ubuntu> RuntimeError: Install failed with exit code None; see /var/log/syslog
[03:00] <purpleposeidon> I have a wireless "7 button" mouse that randomly middle clicks... so how can I have X ignore the middle click, and instead use one of the extra buttons?
[03:01] <pam> anyone?
[03:01] <pam> how do I chagne teh 24 hour clock to 12 hour clock?
[03:02] <purpleposeidon> right click on the clock>date and time format > time & dates
[03:03] <pam> ah thanks
[03:04] <pam> also, my sound isn't working what can I try to debug this. I already restarted artsd and alsa-utils and alsa-base are both installed
[03:07] <pam> also, when I make another panel, how do I adjust the size of the new child panel, not the main panel. I want to put the taskbar at the top but have it half the size as the bottom panel which has my icons and such
[03:07] <Jucato> pam: right-click on any panel, choose Configure Panel, then at the top, there will be a drop down list to choose which panel to configure
[03:08] <BluesKaj> !Requirements
[03:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Requirements - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:08] <pam> Jucato: that's waht I remembered when I used to have KDE on my slackware computer, but there doesn't see mto be a drop down menu here...
[03:08] <Jucato> pam: are you on Edgy?
[03:08] <DekKeD> KopeteX plug-in always crashed. Worked in Dapper. Any ideas?
[03:08] <DekKeD> I mean, always crashes :P
[03:08] <DaSkreech> KopeteX?
[03:09] <DaSkreech> Xbox plugin?
[03:09] <pam> Jucato: yes. Is it under "arrangement" ?
[03:09] <DekKeD> yes, Kopete LateX plug in
[03:09] <Jucato> pam: you need to restart kicker to show it (it's a bug): Alt+F2 then "dcop kicker kicker restart"
[03:09] <sara> Hello, my fan speed is always the highest, does anyone know how I can change that?
[03:11] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, what are the system requirements for kubuntu edgy , or where can i find them ?
[03:11] <pam> ah thank yo uvery much Jucato
[03:12] <Jucato> !requirements
[03:12] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about requirements - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:13] <pam> now I just need the sound *sigh*
[03:13] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: You can strip it down pretty much
[03:13] <pam> anyone know some things I could try to see the source of my no sound?
[03:13] <sara> Is there a way i can slow down the speed of my computers fan?
[03:13] <LjL> sara: the "lm-sensors" packages contain a "fancontrol" script
[03:14] <LjL> package contains
[03:14] <pam> in kInfocenter it says my sound driver is 3.8.1 a-980706 ( alsa v1.0.12rc1 emulation code)
[03:14] <pam> with Type 10: ALSA emulation as the instaslled driver
[03:14] <pam> I have intel on board sound
[03:15] <sara> LjL, where can I get that Im-sensor?
[03:15] <pam> synth and midi devices both "not enabled in config"
[03:15] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell sara about repos
[03:16] <sara> Thanks!
[03:16] <pam> bah actually I think it's sigmatel
[03:16] <Jucato> !repos | sara
[03:16] <ubotu> sara: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:16] <purpleposeidon> Okay.......... somehow xmodmap broke kwin???
[03:18] <pam> how can I find out waht sound card I have?
[03:18] <dennister> hello again
[03:18] <smaggard> xmodmap is the worst way to map keys
[03:19] <dennister> hello Seveas
[03:19] <dennister> Seveas: r u the person we have to thank for keeping certain repositories alive?
[03:19] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj:it seems that about a $500 PC from Dell should be good :)
[03:20] <dennister> if so, ty very much
[03:20] <smaggard> jes, TY!
[03:21] <dennister> Dr_willis: r u busy? a minute b4 i take a nap?
[03:21] <BluesKaj> DaSkreech, i have an old 366mhz HP Pavilion with 256mb Ram and 6G hdd ... seems that is enuff to run Kubuntu with some decent progs on it
[03:21] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Yup Sure is what are you expecting to do on it?
[03:22] <purpleposeidon> smaggard: what is the best way?
[03:22] <Dr_willis> huh?
[03:22] <BluesKaj> it's the wife's windows pc
[03:22] <dennister> mplayer: i thought it was not giving me any sound from my tuner; it is, just extremely quiet
[03:22] <dennister> and muffled by bad noise
[03:22] <purpleposeidon> though I thought it was pretty amusing having the scroll button reversed
[03:23] <BluesKaj> she just surfs , plays solitaire and emails , and writes correspondence- some work related stuff on it
[03:23] <dennister> like i said, i thought i'd give it one more try b4 giving up for now and taking anap
[03:23] <dennister> <---exhausted
[03:23] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Install Kpat! :0
[03:23] <DaSkreech> She'll love it
[03:24] <DaSkreech>  Though I should write them
[03:24] <fatejudger> has anyone had a problem with nspluginviewer crashing when trying to use Flash Player 9?
[03:24] <BluesKaj> KPat ?
[03:24] <DaSkreech>  which brings me back to the question of how do I get in touch with maintainers :-P
[03:24] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Official KDE Solitare App. Excellent :)
[03:25] <BluesKaj> really eh  DaSkreech ...cool , thx for the tip :)
[03:25] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Not installed by default on kubuntu but a) much cooler than solitatre for windows and b) much more user friendly than teh one on Gnome
[03:26] <DaSkreech> As a hint when you start it up press Ctrl+D :)
[03:27] <dennister> test
[03:29] <Jucato> DaSkreech: e-mail? mailing lists probably?
[03:29] <dennister> <--so tired she can't type straight anymore
[03:29] <DaSkreech> Jucato: How do I get the e-mail
[03:29] <dennister> later ppls
[03:29] <DaSkreech> in the deb info it just seems to say maintainer: name
[03:29] <DaSkreech> Like debian team
[03:29] <DaSkreech> or Ubuntu team
[03:29] <Jucato> DaSkreech: I think in some part of the source code
[03:29] <Jucato> I forgot which part exactly...
[03:29] <Jucato> or which file
[03:30] <BluesKaj> ok , DaSkreech...gonna check it out
[03:32] <BluesKaj> yup, it's there
[03:38] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: It's purty as well as a bonus
[03:39] <Jack1> hiya
[03:39] <Jack1> who had login problem after an edgy upgrade?
[03:39] <Jack1> pls any idea?
[03:39] <Jack1> only startx starts a gnome session
[03:41] <kendo> HI ALL
[03:41] <kendo> JACK1 NEW TOO THIS WHERE ARE U ?
[03:42] <Jack1>  kendo???
[03:42] <kendo> SORRY JUST INSTALLED LINUX DONT KNOW HOW TO WORK IT YET
[03:43] <kendo> CAN U HELP ?
[03:43] <DaSkreech> kendo: stop shouting
[03:43] <kendo> sorry !!
[03:43] <DaSkreech> what can we do for you two?
[03:44] <Jack1> DaSkreech: are u there?
[03:44] <kendo> how do i surf on line websites ?
[03:44] <Jack1> DaSkreech: did u read above about my login problem?
[03:44] <DaSkreech> kendo: try konqueror
[03:44] <DaSkreech> Jack1: Sort of I didn't understand it
[03:45] <kendo> ok will try
[03:45] <jiteo> So you can get on IRC but not on Teh Intarwub? Intriguing ;)
[03:45] <DaSkreech> jiteo: Yup it happens
[03:45] <DaSkreech> no big blue E on the desktop :)
[03:46] <Jack1> DaSkreech: ok, if i login it kicks me out after secs , login is correct
[03:46] <purpleposeidon> Instead, you have the big blue K, or w/e.
[03:46] <DaSkreech> Jack1: can you login to the command line?
[03:46] <Jack1> DaSkreech:  if i use console login it works, and if i do startx gnome starts, but dosnt start nautilus
[03:46] <DaSkreech> purpleposeidon: Toukhe!
[03:47] <DekKeD> !ati
[03:47] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:47] <kendo> hey ppl what do i do in konquerer to open web pages pls help!!!
[03:47] <Jack1> DaSkreech: something with x and xauthority
[03:47] <DaSkreech> kendo: type in the address at the top
[03:48] <DaSkreech> Jack1: Do you have an error line?
[03:48] <bioticpro> hey all, anybody here use a ATI card with aux video output?
[03:48] <DaSkreech> Jack1: Oh wait Can You do a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:48] <DaSkreech>  I think I've seen this before
[03:48] <brett_> A friend told me to install auto matrix.. i guess it will help me get updates better but I cannot find it in the adept manager... how can i install automatrix
[03:49] <kendo> ok daskreech will try that
[03:49] <robotgeek> brett_: not really
[03:49] <robotgeek> !automatix
[03:49] <ubotu> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[03:49] <brett_> momal: The reinstall worked great
[03:49] <brett_> robotgeek: do i type that?
[03:49] <DaSkreech> robotgeek: Good picking up. I had no idea what that was about
[03:50] <brett_> ubotu: really? ok well if you discourage it then i will not install it
[03:50] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about really? ok well if you discourage it then i will not install it - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:50] <kendo> daskreech says no hostname specified ??
[03:50] <Jack1> daskreech I DID THAT  but it says one thing is broken and wont be installed the xserver i believe
[03:50] <DaSkreech> kendo: What did you type in?
[03:50] <DaSkreech> Jack1: That might be a problem
[03:51] <Jack1> i had a DaSkreech proper install, which stopped, since then the problem
[03:51] <DaSkreech>  sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[03:51] <robotgeek> brett_: ubotu is a bot. what exactly d oyou need?
[03:51] <kendo> www.google.com
[03:51] <Jack1> how do i solve it? DaSkreech
[03:51] <DaSkreech> kendo: and that throws an error?
[03:51] <brett_> robotgeek: oh ...lol
[03:51] <Jack1> DaSkreech: thx trying that
[03:51] <robotgeek> i am not a bot, i'm rel :)
[03:51] <DaSkreech> Jack1: Guess we start debugging what happens when you type teh command above?
[03:51] <robotgeek> real, err
[03:52] <brett_> robotgeek: is installing auto matrix a good idea
[03:52] <kendo> daskreech its ok i got it to work cheers
[03:52] <DaSkreech> kendo: Great :)
[03:53] <robotgeek> brett_: i would not recommend any programs, you don't really know what they do to your system. so, tell us what you need help with, and we will guide you
[03:53] <robotgeek> brett_: cause when you do, you learn :)
[03:53] <kendo> daskreech i am used too win xp but fed up with it  trying linux for first time
[03:53] <DaSkreech> kendo: welcome
[03:53] <kendo> any advise?
[03:53] <veeKen> hello
[03:53] <kendo> cheers hi all
[03:54] <brett_> robotgeek: My friend encouraged me to switch to linux and told me to install automatrix so that it would update my system
[03:54] <DaSkreech> kendo: Turn on multiverse
[03:54] <robotgeek> brett_: hmm, nope
[03:54] <bioticpro> I have an ATI VIVO card, while I am booting up I can see the splash on my TV screen, but when kde starts, the TV screen goes black, can someone help please?
[03:54] <kendo> how do i turn on multiverse??
[03:54] <DaSkreech> !multiverse | kendo
[03:54] <ubotu> kendo: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[03:54] <DaSkreech> brett_: where is your friend?
[03:54] <robotgeek> brett_: you probably need mp3 , java, flash and 'thecodecs'
[03:55] <brett_> DaSkreech: in another country
[03:55] <DaSkreech> Ha ha ok :)
[03:55] <brett_> robotgeek: yes i do
[03:55] <DaSkreech> read the URL that ubotu gave to you
[03:55] <brett_> robotgeek: i also am missing graphics drivers
[03:55] <DaSkreech> kendo: let me know if you have any problems with that
[03:55] <robotgeek> brett_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats
[03:56] <robotgeek> !ati
[03:56] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:56] <brett_> DaSkreech: You mean the one robot just gave me?
[03:57] <bioticpro> robotgeek, was that for me?
[03:57] <jiteo> Speaking of multiverse.
[03:57] <bioticpro> (the ati stuff)
[03:57] <jiteo> Where's w32codecs? Something depends on it, apparently, but it's nowhere to be found.
[03:57] <veeKen> DaSkreech: that page works for me too; but I don't have those lines
[03:58] <robotgeek> bioticpro: nope, for brett_
[03:58] <DaSkreech> veeKen: Which page?
[03:58] <brett_> robotgeek: you want me to type !ati?
[03:58] <DaSkreech> !w32
[03:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about w32 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:58] <DaSkreech> !w32codecs
[03:58] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[03:58] <brett_> robotgeek: what am i looking for on this page
[03:58] <veeKen> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu --> this one
[03:58] <robotgeek> i was not paying attention, but the ati thing might help you too. bioticpro
[03:58] <DaSkreech> veeKen, kendo: what's the issue?
[03:59] <jiteo> Ah, so it's not even in Ubuntu reps.
[03:59] <brett_> robotgeek: what do you mean '!ati'
[03:59] <veeKen> I'm into installing gimp and gimpshop
[03:59] <robotgeek> brett_: read through that page, (first the codecs stuff)
[03:59] <jiteo> So can we use Chris Mariallat's Debian multimedia repository?
[03:59] <bioticpro> robotgeek, I have my ati card working, just not the TV out under X
[03:59] <veeKen> I found an howto but it tells to use that page to change my repos
[04:00] <robotgeek> bioticpro: okay, probably not then. my tv out does not work too, ait sucks
[04:00] <robotgeek> ati sucks, rather
[04:00] <brett_> robotgeek: thanks... i got to go. I will read that and hopefully i will be able to fix it
[04:00] <robotgeek> brett_: you said you wanted to install the driver for your card, that's should bbe listed in that page
[04:00] <veeKen> but I haven't ca.archive.ubuntu.... to turn on universe multiuniverse
[04:00] <robotgeek> bioticpro: is this a laptop?
[04:01] <bioticpro> nope...
[04:01] <bioticpro> I had nvidia TV out working, but TV I have now doesn't have S-video input, so I swapped the ati card cause it had aux video
[04:02] <veeKen> and: it tells about dapper, I have edgy eft
[04:03] <DaSkreech> veeKen: Gimp should be in the main
[04:04] <veeKen> you're right...but if I install Gimp and then I try to install Gimpshop I have an error
[04:04] <DaSkreech> veeKen: Yo don't need a ca. it can be anything .archive.ubuntu
[04:04] <DaSkreech> and being dapper or edgy or feisty or grunty doesn't make a differecne
[04:04] <delight> !cam
[04:04] <ubotu> webcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras
[04:05] <noxion> Anyone know where I can find a step-by-step guide for installing beryl
[04:06] <DaSkreech> noxion: ask in #ubuntu-xgl
[04:06] <noxion> Thanks
[04:06] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[04:06] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[04:07] <veeKen> done: I have now universe multiuniverse
[04:07] <DaSkreech> veeKen: do an update
[04:08] <delight> !palm
[04:08] <ubotu> A good guide for setting up Palm devices is at http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/PalmOS-HOWTO.html#PC-CONNECT-USB
[04:08] <veeKen> ready: can I now install gimp and gimpshop without any problem?
[04:09] <case__> hi
[04:10] <case__> i have a problem
[04:10] <veeKen> I'll tell you the results in a couple of minutes ;)
[04:10] <DaSkreech> We have solutions
[04:10] <case__> haha
[04:10] <case__> xD
[04:10] <case__> thanks
[04:10] <case__> im using beryl
[04:10] <DaSkreech> Just none that fit your problem :)
[04:10] <case__> and randomly my worg fall down
[04:10] <case__> the log
[04:10] <case__> says
[04:11] <DaSkreech> !enter
[04:11] <ubotu> Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[04:11] <case__> 	error	xf86OpenSerial: Cannot open device /dev/wacom
[04:11] <case__> xorg
[04:11] <DaSkreech> case__: Can You pastebin it?
[04:11] <DaSkreech> case__: That's a normal error. nothing to worry about there
[04:11] <case__> pastebin?
[04:11] <case__> ok
[04:12] <case__> so i dont know why xorg fall down
[04:12] <case__> :(
[04:12] <veeKen> (gimp works fine...trying gimpshop)
[04:12] <case__> maybe the nvidia driver...
[04:12] <DaSkreech> falls down?
[04:12] <DaSkreech> It shuts down on you?
[04:13] <case__> some times i got a black screen with only the arrow
[04:13] <case__> of the cursor
[04:14] <case__> it happens when i open some programs like openoffice or firefox
[04:14] <case__> mm...
[04:14] <DaSkreech> case__: Can you move the cursour?
[04:14] <case__> yes
[04:14] <DaSkreech> Cursor
[04:14] <case__> yes
[04:14] <DaSkreech> Oh I know what you are talking about :)
[04:15] <case__> xD
[04:15] <DaSkreech>  it's a bug in beryl :( Sorry
[04:15] <case__> :(
[04:15] <DaSkreech>  grin and bear it for a while
[04:15] <DaSkreech> They will fix it. It annoys them as well
[04:15] <case__> so... there is no solution for now?
[04:15] <case__> ahh
[04:15] <case__> ok
[04:15] <case__> so i dont need to trash my laptop
[04:15] <case__> :d
[04:15] <case__> :D
[04:15] <case__> xD
[04:16] <Hawkwind> !enter | case
[04:16] <ubotu> case: Please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and can be annoying.
[04:16] <DaSkreech> case__: Nope. Just restart beryl
[04:16] <DaSkreech>  You have the Beryl manager right?
[04:18] <case__> ok, sorry. DaSkreech Yes
[04:18] <DaSkreech> ok it has an option to restart beryl
[04:19] <DaSkreech>  or just switch it out then back in
[04:19] <DaSkreech>  Should clear up your black box issue
[04:19] <manchicken> Okay... I'm having a weird problem...
[04:19] <case__> thanks, but with the black screen how can i do that?
[04:19] <DaSkreech> well.... You are a manchicken
[04:20] <manchicken> All of a sudden, katapult is going really stupid.
[04:20] <DaSkreech> I think that would make life kind of difficult
[04:20] <manchicken> And kdcop freezes.
[04:20] <case__> jajaj
[04:20] <manchicken> Nice.
[04:20] <DaSkreech> just katapult ?
[04:20] <manchicken> Well, I'm more worried about kdcop being frozen.
[04:20] <manchicken> I think they're related.
[04:21] <DaSkreech> I would think so as well
[04:21] <superkirbyartist> All colors in Kubuntu are yellow or blue!
[04:21] <superkirbyartist> My "Red, yellow and orange" maga drawing appears blue in Konqueror!  :-(
[04:21] <manchicken> If for some reason dcop isn't working properly....
[04:22] <carson> what's the default trashcan's hard path?
[04:23] <superkirbyartist> My colors are messed up in Kubuntu.
[04:23] <DaSkreech> carson: trash:/
[04:23] <carson> yeah but what's the real path
[04:25] <carson> ah /home/user/.local/Trash/
[04:25] <veeKen> gimpshop won't install...but it's now 4.30 am here, time to sleep; thanks for the great and fast support! I'll be back tomorrow
[04:26] <superkirbyartist> Please I'm serious.
[04:26] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: Monitor is ok
[04:26] <DaSkreech> ?
[04:26] <superkirbyartist> Monitor works.
[04:26] <superkirbyartist> The one built in the iMac.
[04:27] <DaSkreech> Ok all the colours are missmatched?
[04:27] <superkirbyartist> I have a red, yellow, brown, orange manga.  Appears all blue.
[04:28] <DaSkreech> Can you screenshot it?
[04:28] <superkirbyartist> Yes.
[04:30] <superkirbyartist> Done.   Now what?
[04:30] <DaSkreech> Umm. Photobucket I guess.
[04:33] <DaSkreech> Unless you happen to have a web server :)
[04:33] <superkirbyartist> Zshare.
[04:33] <DaSkreech> k
[04:34] <DaSkreech> Well give back the URl when you done
[04:35] <superkirbyartist> http://www.zshare.net/image/snapshot1-png-pr1.html
[04:35] <superkirbyartist> And they are the bad colors for the manga.
[04:42] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: It comes up fine here
[04:43] <superkirbyartist> It's not supposed to be blue!
[04:45] <imbrandon> superkirbyartist, do not ctcp the whole channel
[04:45] <DekKeD> !ati
[04:45] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[04:45] <fatejudger> where in the heck did they put laptop power settings in Edgy now?
[04:46] <fatejudger> I can't find them anywhere in System Settings
[04:48] <DaSkreech> !guidance
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about guidance - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <DaSkreech> !power
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about power - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:48] <superkirbyartist> Hello?
[04:48] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: hi
[04:48] <manchicken> So ksynaptics is a BAD package.
[04:49] <manchicken> libsynaptics0 is BAD as well.
[04:49] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: I was trying to say that it doesn't come up as blue here
[04:49] <fatejudger> DaSkreech: nothing?
[04:49] <superkirbyartist> It comes red blue yellow brown?
[04:49] <DaSkreech> It's kde-guidance-power-manager or soemething like that
[04:49] <superkirbyartist> Me?
[04:49] <fatejudger> but where is that?
[04:49] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: Umm. I don't see any red
[04:49] <superkirbyartist> What colors?
[04:49] <DaSkreech> all the rest are there though
[04:50] <DaSkreech>  Yellow flower, Brown hair, black eyes
[04:50] <DaSkreech> Looks pretty normal
[04:50] <superkirbyartist> Right, I only showed part of it.
[04:50] <DaSkreech> There is a red folder at the side though
[04:50] <superkirbyartist> Because Konqueror is weird.
[04:50] <superkirbyartist> ?
[04:50] <DaSkreech> :-)
[04:50] <DaSkreech> and a red flag
[04:51] <DaSkreech> the two bottom tabs
[04:51] <superkirbyartist> Anything other that the dude don't matter.
[04:51] <superkirbyartist> Was that purely a screenshot I sent you?
[04:52] <superkirbyartist> Do you see KDE?
[04:52] <DaSkreech> Yes
[04:53] <DaSkreech> Monuments is open in Openoffice
[04:53] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: What happens if you open it in gwenview?
[04:54] <[Relic] > any ideas on how to unlock a directory so I can back it up using the live cd and a mounted HD?
[04:54] <DaSkreech> What File system?
[04:54] <superkirbyartist> I can try to see...
[04:55] <superkirbyartist> How do you eject USB in KDE?
[04:55] <[Relic] > ext3 k3b won't let me access the "Desktop" dir on it
[04:56] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: Right click the icon on the desktop and choose eject
[04:56] <DaSkreech> can you Cd into it
[04:56] <superkirbyartist> It's an iMac.  No right button.  And in Gwenview still blue.
[04:56] <[Relic] > nope,  and cd isn't a sudo command either  :(
[04:57] <superkirbyartist> ...
[04:57] <[Relic] > sudo ls -la Desktop works closest I have gotten to getting into it
[04:57] <DaSkreech> [Relic] : sudo su && cd Desktop
[04:58] <superkirbyartist> Kirby?
[04:58] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: Is anything Red?
[04:58] <thompa> im using an hp 1018 printer and last couple of lines are cut off, worked before
[04:58] <superkirbyartist> Not at all.  And I need to get going soon.  And NO right button on mouse.
[04:58] <superkirbyartist> It's a mac mouse keyboard.
[04:58] <superkirbyartist> But I just removed myself USB.
[04:58] <DaSkreech> Erm there is a short cut key for right click in KDE I just don't recall it
[04:59] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: I think that it may have mis-diagnosed your monitor
[04:59] <superkirbyartist> I need to get heading.  Goodbye and goodnight.
[04:59] <Erich-K> Hello, I've forgotten how to make a script file and launch it in konsole. For example, in the script file I could have it check the status of multiple apps, simply by cd'ing to the directory and running the script. How do I start a script in konsole?
[04:59] <DaSkreech> superkirbyartist: NIght
[04:59] <DaSkreech> Erich-K: sh script name
[04:59] <Jucato> DaSkreech: compose key? (beside the right Win-key and right Ctrl key)
[05:00] <Erich-K> DaScreech: That's it. Thanks :)
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Jucato: On a mac?
[05:00] <Jucato> ah lol sorry :P
[05:00] <[Relic] > that lets me in but how do I unlock it for other programs to access it?
[05:00] <DaSkreech> Erich-K: or ./scriptname
[05:00] <DaSkreech> [Relic] : who owns the Folder?
[05:02] <jmichaelx> could someone tell me what the best/quickest way to rip CDs is in k/ubuntu?
[05:03] <[Relic] > user 1000 group 1000
[05:03] <Jucato> jmichaelx: Audio CD to OGG/MP3?
[05:03] <jmichaelx> i am able to rip CDs... although opening CDs burned with realplayer crashes konqueror... and ripping a CD usually takes 45 minutes to an hour
[05:04] <jmichaelx> Jucato: yes... either way
[05:04] <Jucato> quickest way I think would be Konqueror, using the audiocd:/ kio slave
[05:04] <jmichaelx> Jucato: ok, that is what i have been doing
[05:05] <jmichaelx> i just wondered if there was a quicker way
[05:06] <jmichaelx> i hate switching to windows to manage my music collection, as that is about the only thing i use windows for anymore.... but i guess i will continue doing so for the time being
[05:06] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: There is also grip which is much nicer IMO
[05:07] <jmichaelx> Hawkwind: i used to have that.... maybe i should give it another whirl
[05:07] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: Why would you need Windows for that ?
[05:07] <Jucato> k3b also rips Audio CD's
[05:07] <Hawkwind> So does webmin believe it or not :P
[05:07] <Jucato> :P
[05:08] <jmichaelx> Hawkwind: well, it takes me 15 minutes or less to rip a CD in windows.... 45 minutes or more in linux. plus, my CDs burnt with real player (in windows) cause konqueror to crash
[05:09] <Hawkwind> jmichaelx: Grip should handle all of that and takes less than 15 minutes to rip a full CD and encode it
[05:09] <jmichaelx> Hawkwind: ok, i am going to install Grip again....
[05:18] <tuko> hello
[05:19] <xsacha> jmichaelx: you probably have it on a safe burn speed
[05:21] <DaSkreech>  tuko: Hello
[05:25] <thompa> my printer is cutting off pages at bottom, it always worked before, is there some way to remove the drivers
[05:25] <xsacha> is there some program here to convert decimal to hexadecimal?
[05:25] <xsacha> speedcrunch cant seem to
[05:27] <thompa> laserjet 1018, still cant seem to get it working right
[05:28] <robin_> would someone try to send me a file, I am trying to set up the ports on my router, thx
[05:30] <jmichaelx> ok, grip is much , much faster at ripping a CD that konq/kio, @ about 10x, BUT, the encoding (using lame) is at about 1.5x.... still very, very slow.
[05:33] <jmichaelx> is there something better to use for encoding besides lame?
[05:33] <jmichaelx> to MP3, that is...
[05:34] <thompa> ok , well how do i remove all symbolic links to printer
[05:37] <[Relic] > can you install over an old install without too many problems?
[05:37] <jumpercuumex> hi there how can i see a list of channels????
[05:40] <unix_infidel> [Relic] : sure, just keep your home dir and backup any necessary rc files and you should be kosher.
[05:40] <[Relic] > is there a way to change the second Desktop dir to a different group or owner?
[05:41] <unix_infidel> [Relic] : i dont understand what exactly you mean by second desktop dir
[05:42] <[Relic] > livecd + normal install, the normal install HD has a file temp/home/relic/Desktop with 1000 1000 and I can't get into it to back it up
[05:43] <unix_infidel> [Relic] : are you trying to do a rescue?
[05:43] <unix_infidel> otherwise, just boot in into the install and use cp -a
[05:43] <jmichaelx> ok, i hope this is configurable, but.... at this point, the way Grip tags files sucks really bad
[05:43] <[Relic] > pretty much, I screwed up something with the nvidia stuff and it won't boot properly again
[05:44] <jmichaelx> [Relic] : have you reconfigured your xserver?
[05:44] <unix_infidel> yea, its best to recover than reinstall.
[05:44] <[Relic] > though it did it automatically wwhen you ran glx enable line
[05:45] <unix_infidel> in this case.
[05:45] <[Relic] > where's xserver conf?
[05:45] <jmichaelx> [Relic] : my guess is that you would be well off to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[05:45] <unix_infidel> and my guess is that X wont start. not that the system isnt bootable.
[05:46] <smaggard_> gnite
[05:46] <jmichaelx> oops
[05:46] <jmichaelx> it is... /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:46] <jmichaelx> i think....
[05:48] <[Relic] > got to get gub updated first I think, that went very screwy
[05:48] <[Relic] > grub  :)
[05:48] <[Relic] > cd ..
[05:49] <bLaZeD> anyone here know where to get help with gtkpod.....there mailing list kinda sucks
[05:52] <[Relic] > so I want to reboot to recovery mode and then run that line and hopefully that will fix it?
[05:52] <DaSkreech> bLaZeD: What's the problem?
[05:53] <bLaZeD> DaSkreech, well i used to be able to transfer my videos to it fine.....and they would play fine.....now when i add them.....they play but have no sound.......
[05:53] <bLaZeD> im converting them the same way
[05:53] <[Relic] > back in a few maybe  :)
[06:03] <xsacha> how do i search for a word seperated by nulls using grep?
[06:03] <xsacha> eg.: E n g l i s h  (each second letter is a null, 00)
[06:06] <illmatik`> hey guys. I accidently partitioned my kubuntu partition too large than I wanted it. I'm trying to use partition magic to shrink it down but it wont let me...any suggestions?
[06:08] <xsacha> illmatik`: try a partitioner on linux..
[06:08] <xsacha> gparted, qtparted, ..list goes on
[06:09] <illmatik`> will do, thank you.
[06:10] <seishinbyou> There is a PPC version of the Kubuntu Live CD, is there not (just checking)
[06:11] <DaSkreech> 3 weeks ina row!!! :)
[06:11] <DaSkreech> bLaZeD: Have you tried teh IRC chan when people are awake?
[06:12] <DaSkreech> xsacha: maybe try a single quote?
[06:12] <xsacha> ok
[06:12] <xsacha> hmm still no go.. seems to ignore the single quote.. found files with "English"
[06:13] <DaSkreech> grep 'E n g l i s h ' doesn't work?
[06:13] <bLaZeD> DaSkreech, whats the irc chan
[06:13] <xsacha> splaces?
[06:13] <xsacha> spaces*
[06:13] <bLaZeD> DaSkreech, #gtkpod is empty
[06:13] <DaSkreech> or use a \NNN
[06:13] <DaSkreech> bLaZeD: Check the site?
[06:13] <xsacha> DaSkreech: nulls (00), not spaces (20) ot newlines (0D)
[06:13] <bLaZeD> dascyea nothing about irc
[06:14] <bLaZeD> * DaSkreech
[06:14] <DaSkreech> xsacha: Octal numbers replacing NNN of course
[06:14] <xsacha> so i can use \00 ?
[06:14] <xsacha> k
[06:14] <DaSkreech> bLaZeD: then For right now the mailing list is your best bet
[06:14] <DaSkreech>  and google
[06:14] <DaSkreech> Oh! check the Ubuntu Forums
[06:14] <bLaZeD> DaSkreech, ..yea the mailing list doesnt have any info on my prob
[06:15] <bLaZeD> DaSkreech, thanks for trying to help...i am off to bed
[06:15] <[Relic] > no luck with that :(
[06:16] <xsacha> hmm \000 doesn't work -- it does seem to find it in all binary files though..
[06:16] <xsacha> as soon as i add a letter, it fails
[06:16] <xsacha> grep E\000  finds nothing... this should be E followed by a null?
[06:17] <DaSkreech> as I recall
[06:17] <DaSkreech> If you put it in ' '
[06:18] <xsacha> 'E\000' ? still nothing :(
[06:18] <[Relic] > I get the gears and blue kubuntu up and it runs through evertything then the screen blinks and goes back to the gears and kubuntu screen and nothing unless I press ctrl-alt-del and it shuts down
[06:18] <[Relic] > grep -ir 'E\000' *   ?
[06:19] <xsacha> nothing :(
[06:19] <xsacha> that's what i was using but without the -ir
[06:19] <[Relic] > does help give you a something for null
[06:20] <xsacha> i opened up first file in the dir and there is an E and then a null after it
[06:20] <xsacha> grep seems to find all files with a null in it when i do grep '\000' *  .. as soon as i add a letter it doesnt work :S
[06:22] <momal> brett_: glad to hear it worked out _^-
[06:23] <DaSkreech> seishinbyou: Back from Japan?
[06:23] <seishinbyou> Back?  I'm still here
[06:23] <DaSkreech> heehee
[06:24] <DaSkreech> so does it really run LInux?
[06:24] <DaSkreech> or ... obviously linux?
[06:24] <Jucato> kombanwa seishinbyou-san
[06:24] <CPrgmSwR2> Oh my gosh I cannot believe what i just did
[06:24] <DaSkreech> Seemino sen?
[06:24] <seishinbyou> It is a PPC architecture...the latest firmware supports homebrew
[06:24] <CPrgmSwR2> I booted kubuntu using a gentoo linux
[06:24] <seishinbyou> I'm hoping I can hack something together
[06:24] <DaSkreech> latest?
[06:24] <seishinbyou> Jucato: 
[06:24] <CPrgmSwR2> i mean I booted kubunti using a gentoo kernel
[06:24] <DaSkreech> It's been out one day
[06:24] <momal> seishinbyou: GOOD LUCK!!!!.. once it comes into australia kubuntu first thing to be put onto it hehehe
[06:24] <seishinbyou> Yes, and there are already firmware updates
[06:25] <DaSkreech> Madness!
[06:25] <seishinbyou> Not as mad as the sale
[06:25] <[Relic] > to what?  :)
[06:25] <seishinbyou> The madness during the PS3 sale
[06:25] <momal> seishinbyou: you should make a video of installing/booting kubuntu :D
[06:26] <[Relic] > :)
[06:26] <seishinbyou> If I get it working, that is exactly what I plan on doing
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Yeah the blog of getting a distro running on it would be more interesting for me
[06:26] <seishinbyou> I'd want it hosted off some other domain, though.  I don't think I would like getting Dugg/Slashdotted again
[06:26] <DaSkreech> What was time one?
[06:27] <seishinbyou> Over some DDR stuff
[06:27] <seishinbyou> that was back in 2002
[06:27] <seishinbyou> slashdot
[06:28] <DaSkreech> seishinbyou: Installed a bigger hard drive yet?
[06:28] <xsacha> it seems when i grep for: '\000'  -- it is finding all files with "000" in them :|
[06:29] <xsacha> anyone know how to grep for null?
[06:29] <Jucato> anyone knows how to do the Buzz'ing effect of YM in Kopete
[06:29] <Jucato> ah nvm :P
[06:29] <xsacha> yuck, why would you want that
[06:30] <Jucato> xsacha: for revenge :p
[06:30] <xsacha> i disable it :P
[06:30] <Jucato> heheh
[06:30] <seishinbyou> DaSkreech: I want to try it; there was already a blog link on digg about someone who put in a 200GB drive
[06:30] <DaSkreech> We want 500Gb :)
[06:30] <xsacha> 1TB
[06:30] <momal> 200 wans't it 320 ?
[06:30] <DaSkreech> for apt-get install MGS4
[06:31] <seishinbyou> DaSkreech: hahaha
[06:31] <xsacha> apt-get install NFSCarbon
[06:31] <momal> Haha
[06:31] <seishinbyou> Aw, this game sucks... apt-get remove afrika --purge
[06:31] <momal> apt-get install psone-emulator
[06:31] <DaSkreech> apt-get install gb-emu
[06:32] <DaSkreech> ahhhh the power of a cell processor
[06:32] <DaSkreech> Black and white tetris
[06:32] <momal> http://digg.com/search?area=promoted&age=7&sort=new&s=ps3&submit=Search <-- all digg frontpage stories about ps3 in last 7 days if people want to look :)
[06:32] <DaSkreech> I just want to know if it has MythTV/Tivo built in
[06:33] <DaSkreech> Or do I gotta install Myth and libxine-extracodecs myself :-P
[06:33] <momal> that 320GB hd he put in his ps3 wont even fit lol!
[06:35] <Admiral_Chicago> remember that kubuntu-offtopig is for non-support queries
[06:35] <Jucato> hi Admiral_Chicago
[06:35] <xsacha> here is guide to installing kubuntu on ps3? lol http://ps3.qj.net/Kernel-patches-and-documentation-for-PS3-Linux-Boot-any-PPC-linux-distro-on-your-PS3-/pg/49/aid/72608
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> can someone help with a "debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process" error
[06:36] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: he's having issues installing kubuntu that counts as support :)
[06:36] <robotgeek> Admiral_Chicago: sudo lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[06:36] <Admiral_Chicago> no i mean the whole "ps3" thing, sorry people
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: Some of it is support related
[06:37] <momal> thats interesting im thinking there needs to be a ps3 version of kubuntu : p
[06:37] <DaSkreech> momal: It's open source. Go and compile :)
[06:37] <DaSkreech>  The new gcc has cell support
[06:37] <Admiral_Chicago> robotgeek: dpkg: error processing localeconf (--configure):
[06:37] <momal> lol!.... if only I had a ps3 :p
[06:37] <Admiral_Chicago> ah okay
[06:37] <robotgeek> Admiral_Chicago: sudo killall dpkg
[06:39] <DaSkreech> I'm so envious of our Japanese friends right now who'll probably be busy tinkering with their PS3.
[06:39] <DaSkreech> :-(
[06:39] <Admiral_Chicago> nope no process running
[06:40] <DaSkreech> Admiral_Chicago: do you still have the lock file?
[06:40] <robotgeek> Admiral_Chicago: some process must be using it, try to find the PID and kill it
[06:40] <DaSkreech> did apt-get/dpkg die abruptly ?
[06:41] <Admiral_Chicago> yes it did
[06:43] <Admiral_Chicago> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31380/
[06:44] <Admiral_Chicago> wait i think i got it
[06:48] <nextstate> anybody have problems with gettings the kubuntu install to boot with the asus crosshair mobo?
[06:51] <nathe> nextstate: Not that I'll be able to actually answer the question, but what's the nature of the problem?
[06:52] <nextstate> it appears to start booting then I get a black screen
[06:52] <nextstate> booting off the cd that is
[06:52] <nathe> have you tried booting to the safe vga mode?
[06:52] <FriendlyMan> hi
[06:52] <nathe> or do you not even get there?
[06:53] <nextstate> no, lemme give that a shot
[06:53] <nextstate> yes, i get that far
[06:53] <nathe> k
[06:53] <nathe> anyone seen kaudiocreator just sitting there trying to rip?
[06:54] <FriendlyMan> wine for kubuntu 64bits are stable ?
[06:57] <FriendlyMan> humm ?
[06:57] <nextstate> nathe: looks like the safe graphics mode was the ticket. thanks.
[06:59] <xsacha> FriendlyMan: use 32-bit xine with linux32 (force architecture)
[06:59] <xsacha> wine*
[06:59] <nathe> FriendlyMan: I've had a friend get it working, haven't myself.  He did say it was a rather large pain though
[07:00] <FriendlyMan> ok ... but need compile ?
[07:00] <xsacha> dont need to compile, just d/l the deb
[07:00] <nathe> xsacha: any clue on the kaudiocreator problem?
[07:00] <xsacha> then dpkg -i --force-architecture nameofdeb.deb
[07:00] <xsacha> never used it nathe :(
[07:01] <nathe> nods
[07:01] <FriendlyMan> in sinaptic this is not possible.
[07:01] <FriendlyMan> I try this
[07:01] <xsacha> FriendlyMan: download it
[07:01] <FriendlyMan> ;) thanks
[07:01] <xsacha> FriendlyMan: in synaptic, however, download linux32 and the ia32 libs
[07:01] <xsacha> so that you can run 32-bit programs
[07:01] <nathe> it's bizzare... It worked with the 8x cdrom that I had to use for install (other drive was giving me seek errors), but when I swaped the new drive in, it just sits and spins.
[07:02] <nathe> no errors in dmesg or anything.
[07:02] <FriendlyMan> ok, i anderstand
[07:03] <FriendlyMan> apt get dont have force metod ?
[07:04] <tanlaan_> what package do i need to "sudo apt-get install" to be able to compile programs?
[07:04] <noiesmo> build-essential tanlaan_
[07:05] <tanlaan_> noiesmo:
[07:05] <tanlaan_> noiesmo: thanks :D
[07:06] <[Relic] > Sort of working now, just can't use anything that needs OGL
[07:08] <[Relic] > in fact a lot of things are crashing  :(
[07:09] <DirtyThang> hey
[07:09] <DaSkreech> Night a;;
[07:09] <DaSkreech> s/;;/ll
[07:09] <[Relic] > :)
[07:10] <[Relic] > I'll figure this out or reinstall in the morning  :)
[07:10] <caveMan1> is there any different between kubuntu and ubuntu apart from the fact that ubuntu is using GNOME by default and kubuntu KDE?
[07:10] <DirtyThang> hey any of u now how to fix my clock or some error in kdeveloper?
[07:10] <DirtyThang> know
[07:10] <Jucato> caveMan1: nothing. that's the only difference really
[07:11] <Jucato> (of course Ubuntu and Kubuntu have different sets of developers, although some develop for both)
[07:13] <DaSkreech> DirtyThang: What?
[07:14] <bioticpro>  Hello, how do I decide whether my card should use ati-xorg or ati_legacy-xorg?
[07:14] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, hows it been man
[07:14] <DaSkreech> noiesmo: Yo
[07:14] <DaSkreech> What you been up to?
[07:14] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, hey not much just chillin
[07:24] <ebiven> Can I get a hand getting the NVidia binary drivers working?  I've followed the guides I could find.  I just installed 6.10.
[07:25] <ebiven> When I try to run nvidia-glx-config enable I get "
[07:25] <ebiven> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[07:25] <ebiven> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[07:25] <noiesmo> ebiven, found this the other day looks like its for you http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[07:25] <DaSkreech> ebiven: After installing you have to reboot
[07:28] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, hey check this  http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[07:29] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, havent tried yet but its on launchpad so cant be to bad
[07:29] <ebiven> DaSkreech: I have to reboot before I run nvidia-glx-config?
[07:29] <DaSkreech> Right :-)
[07:29] <DaSkreech> Well 02:00
[07:29] <DaSkreech> Time for me to sleep
[07:29] <noiesmo> DaSkreech, catch ya soon dude
[07:29] <DaSkreech> You too
[07:32] <BrightEyes`> hello.i dont know what i have done but i cant startx with a normal user.what can i do?
[07:32] <BrightEyes`> im using xfce
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> Jucato: hello
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> BrightEyes`: have you tried to chmod /etc/X11
[07:35] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: hi :)
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't know the syntax but let me find a link
[07:35] <Admiral_Chicago> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions
[07:36] <Admiral_Chicago> might help
[07:36] <Admiral_Chicago> hows it going?
[07:36] <xsacha> what's a fast video capture program?
[07:36] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: ok should i chmod 555 /etc/X11 ?
[07:36] <xsacha> chmod -R  ?
[07:36] <Admiral_Chicago> BrightEyes wait a sec
[07:37] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: ok
[07:37] <Admiral_Chicago> so you have to sudo startx when you boot?
[07:37] <Admiral_Chicago> explain what happens when boot your computer
[07:37] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: i dont know.i done something wrong and sudo was uninstalled.as well as adept
[07:37] <Admiral_Chicago> so how do you startx?
[07:37] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: and kde.i just wanted to uninstall enlightment window management and i took away many others.xfce now works fine
[07:38] <BrightEyes`> well if i su
[07:38] <BrightEyes`> and then startx i get access to x window
[07:38] <Rede> im having some difficulty setting up my dual monitors with nvidia. video displays fine in the console, but in X there is an orange tinge and a vertical black line down the left side of the second display
[07:38] <Rede> anyone had any similar issues?
[07:40] <Admiral_Chicago> BrightEyes`: do you have xubuntu-desktop installed?
[07:40] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: i tried ls -l /etc/X11 and i cant see the user in that folder
[07:40] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: im using kubuntu.but i dont have kde now.so you may say im on ubuntu with Xfce
[07:41] <Admiral_Chicago> BrightEyes`: that's xubuntu but anyways, pstree see if anything is using sudo
[07:42] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: with pstree i cant see anything about sudo
[07:42] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: sudo was uninstalled
[07:44] <Admiral_Chicago> is anything using adept
[07:45] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: no.adept was uninstalled as well as kde
[07:45] <Admiral_Chicago> su apt-get install kde
[07:46] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: i dont want kde:)
[07:46] <BrightEyes`> i just want to make a user using startx
[07:49] <inteliwasp> has anyone noticed on google news that sun GPLed java?
[07:49] <BrightEyes`> inteliwasp: what does that mean?
[07:50] <BrightEyes`> anyone here who knows how to make a user use the window manager??i can only get access as root
[07:50] <inteliwasp> http://news.google.com/nwshp?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&tab=wn&ncl=http://news.com.com/Sun%2Bpicks%2BGPL%2Blicense%2Bfor%2BJava%2Bcode/2100-7344_3-6134584.html
[07:51] <BrightEyes`> oh GPL general public license.yes yes...
[07:51] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't know how to help you, i'm sorry
[07:52] <BrightEyes`> Admiral_Chicago: np
[07:52] <inteliwasp> and java's website would be dead... :P
[07:53] <inteliwasp> Admiral_Chicago:  would you know anything about xmms?
[07:53] <BrightEyes`> inteliwasp: if thats a good reason to hack java when those who will do it should get a life
[07:54] <Jucato> inteliwasp: Sun *will* GPL Java. (later today)
[07:54] <AgentOrange> ello
[07:54] <Admiral_Chicago> inteliwasp: i used it for a while yes
[07:54] <AgentOrange> does kubuntu have flash support yet?
[07:54] <inteliwasp> know how to diagnose error codes?
[07:54] <noiesmo> AgentOrange, flash 9 is available
[07:55] <AgentOrange> i installed this distro for PPC over a year ago, its probably come a log way since then
[07:55] <AgentOrange> nice! :)
[07:55] <Admiral_Chicago> what is the problem
[07:55] <Admiral_Chicago> AgentOrange: yes there is a beta out
[07:56] <inteliwasp> ever since upgrading to edgy, i keep getting this when i try to start xmms:  Gdk-ERROR **: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)  serial 2384 error_code 8 request_code 72 minor_code 0
[07:56] <Admiral_Chicago> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[07:56] <AgentOrange> i dont know what version of kubuntu PPC i installed back then, but i guess the latest distro will support flash
[07:57] <Admiral_Chicago> AgentOrange: it's really Adobe's decision not the Ubuntu community
[07:57] <AgentOrange> Admiral_Chicago: i understand that
[07:59] <Admiral_Chicago> xmms try kcmshell xmms from the konsole
[08:01] <inteliwasp> Admiral_Chicago:  i get this: kcmshell (kdelibs): WARNING: Could not find module 'kde-xmms'.
[08:02] <Admiral_Chicago> is xmms installed properly
[08:02] <Admiral_Chicago> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xmms
[08:05] <inteliwasp> it ran, then i tried to run xmms again but the same error
[08:05] <AgentOrange> how can i ssh from kubuntu?
[08:06] <AgentOrange> do i need to install putty?
[08:06] <inteliwasp> !ssh > AgentOrange
[08:06] <AgentOrange> or is there some other preinstalled app that im over-looking
[08:06] <AgentOrange> thank you
[08:07] <inteliwasp> AgentOrange:  ssh is already installed with kubuntu
[08:08] <AgentOrange> thats what i thought
[08:08] <BrightEyes`> how can i add a local user to use startx? i can only log in to xfce as root
[08:08] <AgentOrange> what would i use to ssh to a server?
[08:08] <inteliwasp> just type "ssh <username@ipaddress>"
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> AgentOrange: no
[08:09] <Admiral_Chicago> at least when i ssh i don't need to
[08:09] <inteliwasp> am i wrong Admiral_Chicago ?
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> inteliwasp: have you considered a purge?
[08:10] <Admiral_Chicago> it'll delete your settings though
[08:10] <inteliwasp> Admiral_Chicago:  yes i did already
[08:10] <AgentOrange> wow
[08:10] <AgentOrange> ssh runs so much smoother than putty on windows
[08:10] <AgentOrange> im impressed
[08:10] <xsacha> !stream
[08:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stream - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:11] <xsacha> anyone know how to use stream?
[08:11] <xsacha> stream -half -start 17:03:00 -end 17:11:00 1280 1024 ~/audio ~/video                   gives: open: No such file or directory
[08:11] <Admiral_Chicago> AgentOrange: i sshed on my computer versus a live CD, it is pretty nice
[08:11] <inteliwasp> Admiral_Chicago:  i'll try the purge again
[08:12] <Admiral_Chicago> inteliwasp: what command do you use?
[08:12] <inteliwasp> adept
[08:13] <AgentOrange> erm
[08:13] <AgentOrange> Admiral_Chicago: how do i adjust my volume?
[08:13] <AgentOrange> its been a loooong time since ive booted this thing up
[08:13] <Admiral_Chicago> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems
[08:13] <Admiral_Chicago> try that
[08:13] <AgentOrange> well isnt there some simple mixer slidebar?
[08:14] <AgentOrange> i just want to turn the volume down
[08:14] <AgentOrange> my sound is perfect
[08:14] <inteliwasp> the little speaker in the system tray
[08:14] <Admiral_Chicago> try adding one to the pane
[08:14] <dart1007> this place is crowded!
[08:14] <AgentOrange> found it
[08:14] <AgentOrange> thanks inteliwasp
[08:14] <dart1007> whew! sorry my 1st time here..
[08:14] <xsacha> anyway know why i get this: http://nanobin.nanosouffle.net/1872  ?
[08:15] <inteliwasp> dart1007:  usually is...
[08:15] <xsacha> AgentOrange: kmixer
[08:15] <xsacha> kmix
[08:16] <Admiral_Chicago> xsacha: no idea
[08:16] <dart1007> don't mind me, just lurking for now...
[08:16] <inteliwasp> Admiral_Chicago:  is there a way to force downloading the pakage again?
[08:16] <Admiral_Chicago> dart1007: check out #ubuntu
[08:16] <Admiral_Chicago> mch more croweded
[08:17] <Admiral_Chicago> inteliwasp: what's the error?
[08:18] <dart1007> found this place through ubuntucafe thread....
[08:18] <inteliwasp> nothing, it just that the last time i purged xmms, it did not download a new packege
[08:19] <AgentOrange> time to get to sleep
[08:19] <AgentOrange> work in the morning
[08:19] <AgentOrange> thanks for the help guys
[08:19] <BrokenPipe> Has anyone successfully installed *ubuntu 6.10 from CD on an AMD64 machine, or know why the process would be haning on my Athlon64 X2 machine?
[08:20] <dart1007> #ubuntuforums
[08:21] <inteliwasp> Admiral_Chicago:  i was also wondering if the packege was corupt...
[08:22] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm maybe you can do a checksum if you downloaded it then compiled from source
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago> well try a purge and another install
[08:24] <Admiral_Chicago> that's what i would do
[08:24] <inteliwasp> do you know what program controls the special keys on the keyboard? ie: the volume keys?
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> xkbd iirc
[08:25] <brett_> i need to get the latest video drivers for my machine but i am not sure what card i have
[08:25] <Admiral_Chicago> i don't think it's a program though
[08:26] <inteliwasp> Admiral_Chicago:  nope not on my laptop...
[08:26] <brett_> is there a way for linux to auto get them? i am using kubuntu
[08:26] <Admiral_Chicago> this may helphttp://keytouch.sourceforge.net/
[08:27] <Admiral_Chicago> this may help http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/
[08:27] <dart1007> #ubuntu
[08:27] <brett_> Admiral_Chicago: thanks
[08:27] <inteliwasp> Admiral_Chicago:  ya thats what i was thinking of useing, but i wanted to disable the one that comes with edgy...
[08:27] <brett_> Admiral_Chicago: or was that not for me
[08:28] <xsacha> !info stream
[08:28] <ubotu> Package stream does not exist in any distro I know
[08:28] <inteliwasp> brett_:  that "keytouch was for me
[08:28] <inteliwasp> !stream
[08:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about stream - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:28] <brett_> inteliwasp: yeah i took a look and realized my mistake
[08:28] <Admiral_Chicago> brett_: no that link was for someone else
[08:29] <lish> sorry. How to speak "1234.56" in English ?
[08:30] <AWOSLappy> I need to record something from Flash in to a waveform file (.WAV).  How would I accomplish this?  I tried Audacity but Flash locks the sound driver.
[08:30] <inteliwasp> brett_:  do you really need 3D video support?
[08:30] <unix_infidel> AWOSLappy: what flash format?
[08:30] <unix_infidel> flv files?
[08:30] <xsacha> !vstream
[08:30] <ubotu> vstream: bttv video capture utility aimed at making MPEGs. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.5-4 (edgy), package size 40 kB, installed size 168 kB
[08:30] <brett_> inteliwasp: yeah... i want to play tremulous
[08:30] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel, I have no clue.  It's in Firefox.
[08:31] <unix_infidel> AWOSLappy: there isnt really a lot of great flash dev stuff for nix.
[08:31] <unix_infidel> AWOSLappy: what kind of content is it, how big is the file.
[08:31] <inteliwasp> !ati > brett_
[08:31] <Admiral_Chicago> gotta run all
[08:31] <unix_infidel> what version is the format, and is if swf or flv, can you get access to the flv files. otherwise, the content maybe locked to read only.
[08:32] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel, I cannot actually get the flash file.  it's on the Internet.  I need to record from the Mixer.
[08:32] <brett_> inteliwasp: i dont understand... you want me to type that in the console?
[08:32] <unix_infidel> AWOSLappy: URL?
[08:32] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel -> http://www.purevolume.com/riesinclair
[08:32] <inteliwasp> no that is a web address
[08:33] <unix_infidel> ahh, you want to jack a music file :P
[08:33] <brett_> inteliwasp: !ati > brett  ?.... do you mean www.ati.com?
[08:33] <inteliwasp> brett_:  did you get the address?
[08:33] <brett_> inteliwasp: ubotu gave me one
[08:33] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel, well she's an indie artist, not planning on releasing an album.  And if she did I would definitely buy it, I love EVERY song she's ever made.
[08:33] <brett_> inteliwasp: did you mean that one?
[08:34] <inteliwasp> brett_:  no this:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[08:34] <brett_> inteliwasp: ok cool i got it
[08:34] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel, so can I record from the mixer without using Audacity or not?
[08:35] <unix_infidel> AWOSLappy: i dont think so, might ask in #lad about that.
[08:35] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel okay thanks.
[08:35] <unix_infidel> as for jacking the content direct download i'm lokoing at the source.
[08:35] <AWOSLappy> hehe really?
[08:35] <inteliwasp> brett_:  you can use "lspci" to find your excat card
[08:36] <brett_> inteliwasp: lspci gave me alot of information-
[08:36] <unix_infidel> http://www.purevolume.com/swf/artistPlayer.swf?artistId=244631
[08:36] <brett_> inteliwasp: kinda hard to sift through but i am looking
[08:36] <unix_infidel> AWOSLappy: i've isolated the swf and as2 value pass.
[08:36] <inteliwasp> look for "ati" or "nvidia"
[08:36] <unix_infidel> this box doesnt have flash 8 or i might have better luck.
[08:37] <Acker> Hi all, I'm looking for a good guide to install properly my graphics drivers on my laptop :) (ATi X1400)
[08:37] <inteliwasp> !ati > Acker
[08:37] <brett_> inteliwasp: i found both ati and nvidia... but i have two graphics cards
[08:38] <inteliwasp> brett_:  now i am out of my legue... i don't know how to work with 2 cards...
[08:38] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel well thanks for trying.
[08:38] <unix_infidel> AWOSLappy: actually.
[08:38] <unix_infidel> i'd recommend using a packget sniffer.
[08:38] <unix_infidel> packet*
[08:39] <xsacha> yeah it gets the song from s6.purevolume.com
[08:39] <unix_infidel> xsacha: actually its obfuscated on multiple sub-domains.
[08:39] <AWOSLappy> What format would it be sniffing from?  and is that kind of program in the Ubuntu repos?
[08:39] <unix_infidel> s6, s52, sNN
[08:39] <AWOSLappy> s/Ubuntu/Kubuntu/
[08:39] <unix_infidel> ethereal or whatever its called now
[08:40] <unix_infidel> it should be really easy now...
[08:40] <brett_> inteliwasp: well your link said to install the open source ati driver
[08:40] <unix_infidel> good luck.
[08:40] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel okay thanks :)
[08:40] <unix_infidel> AWOSLappy: np, she ain't bad on the eyes either :)
[08:40] <eilker> !vc > eilker
[08:40] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about vc - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[08:40] <inteliwasp> brett_:  paste the lines from lspci that show ati
[08:41] <brett_> ok
[08:41] <brett_> 00:0d.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage 128 PD/PRO TMDS
[08:41] <inteliwasp> er...
[08:41] <AWOSLappy> Wow, Rage 128 PRO.  I have one of those in my Nov 1997 desktop.  :P
[08:41] <inteliwasp> old card
[08:42] <AWOSLappy> Too easy to set up for Linux, heck XFree86 3.5 natively supported it
[08:42] <unix_infidel> AWOSLappy: heh, old man.
[08:42] <brett_> inteliwasp: the other one is newer
[08:42] <unix_infidel> showing your age :P
[08:42] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel heh, I have a Tseng Labs ET4000 on my 486 that I still use.
[08:42] <brett_> inteliwasp: so what should i do?
[08:43] <inteliwasp> brett_:  looking
[08:43] <unix_infidel> AWOSLappy: AWOS is an acronym for?
[08:43] <xsacha> lol http://riesinclair.com/
[08:43] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel, heck I still have the 8088 with an 'Enhanced' Video BIOS (well, I highly doubt CGA could be enhanced :P )
[08:43] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel, AndreW Operating System.
[08:43] <AWOSLappy> unix_infidel, we have a channel here (#AWOS) if you wanted to check it out.
[08:43] <scheuri> hi all
[08:47] <inteliwasp> brett_:  type glxinfo into konsole
[08:48] <brett_> inteliwasp: ok
[08:49] <brett_> inteliwasp: what line do you want me to paste
[08:49] <scheuri> does someone know the differences between "i686" and "server" kernel images in dapper (6.06.1)? Is there a website for that?
[08:50] <inteliwasp> anything about 3d support?
[08:50] <AWOSLappy> scheuri, IIRC (but I'm not sure) the server one doesn't come with a GUI.
[08:50] <inteliwasp> brett_:  here paste the output here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:51] <brett_> inteliwasp: the only line with 3d mentioned is this one: (i will paste output as well)
[08:51] <brett_> inteliwasp: GL_EXT_texture, GL_EXT_texture3D, GL_EXT_texture_edge_clamp,
[08:51] <scheuri> AWOSLappy: well, I am talking about kernel images...not the release-"editions"...:)...but thanks though
[08:52] <inteliwasp> brett_:  and send me the link it makes
[08:52] <brett_> inteliwasp: ok
[08:52] <brett_> inteliwasp: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31398/
[08:53] <Acker> how do I build a run file to deb package?
[08:54] <inteliwasp> brett_:  have you tried to play the game yet? i think it might work... the card is too old to get drivers installed anyway
[08:55] <brett_> inteliwasp: yes. the mouse is really laggy
[08:55] <brett_> inteliwasp: i will try to get into the game and maybe it might be different... hold on
[08:55] <inteliwasp> brett_:  look at the options for getting details lower
[08:57] <inteliwasp> falling asleep while doing tech support is not recomened...   i really need some sleep...
[08:57] <scheuri> does someone know the differences between "i686" and "server" kernel images in dapper (6.06.1)? Is there a website for that? I am especially interested if one of those two images treads more than 4GB RAM differently...
[08:58] <brett_> inteliwasp: no go
[08:58] <brett_> inteliwasp: SO SLOW
[08:59] <unix_infidel> scheuri: what "server" kernel
[09:00] <inteliwasp> brett_:  well i am out of ideas, sorry, you might want to check back here later to see if anyone else can help you, as for me, i need some sack time so i can think strait
[09:00] <scheuri> unix_infidel: if you list all linux-images you have k7, i386, i686 and server and bigIron-server
[09:00] <brett_> inteliwasp: ok well thanks for trying....
[09:00] <scheuri> inteliwasp: good night
[09:00] <inteliwasp> night all!
[09:01] <unix_infidel> scheuri: my guess would be that 686 is compiled with a 686 specific march flag and the image file is just that, a source image
[09:02] <scheuri> unix_infidel: well, yes..that is true...i686 supports SMP as well as server does...but are they both able to use more than 4 GB RAM? is there a way to check that? or find out?
[09:02] <unix_infidel> when i say image i mean just like an iso for a live cd
[09:02] <unix_infidel> scheuri: both are save for 4GB+ IIRC
[09:02] <unix_infidel> safe*
[09:02] <scheuri> unix_infidel: well, it says "image" when listing with aptitude search...;)
[09:02] <unix_infidel> however, you will usually only get a performance increase with 64bit and 4GB+ memory
[09:03] <scheuri> unix_infidel: I am aware of that...but 64bit Ubuntu is no option
[09:03] <unix_infidel> scheuri: that's a good choice imho.
[09:03] <scheuri> unix_infidel: what? not going for 64bit? :)
[09:03] <unix_infidel> scheuri: the answer to your question is, yes go a head and install ubuntu and begin cooking.
[09:03] <unix_infidel> no you wont have any problems :)
[09:04] <unix_infidel> yes, use the kernel most appropriate for your platform, and i'd recommend compiling your own if its a production server
[09:04] <scheuri> unix_infidel: it is already installed...;)...32bi however...its just that it runs now on a i686 kernel
[09:04] <unix_infidel> compile your own.
[09:04] <unix_infidel> make it as lean as needed.
[09:04] <scheuri> unix_infidel: oh, I see we differ here very much..:)...I would not compile my own if not absolutely necessary
[09:05] <unix_infidel> scheuri: i was that way too....things change.
[09:05] <unix_infidel> bleh bleh bleh, source!?  compiling!? i dont dun run gentooooo.
[09:05] <scheuri> unix_infidel: I am sure they will....but not on that server I am on now...;)
[09:05] <scheuri> unix_infidel: I am not against compiling per se...I am just cautios with it as it has some support implications...
[09:06] <unix_infidel> give a compile kernel a try on a non essential box.
[09:06] <unix_infidel> run software that bets fits your hardware and needs.
[09:06] <unix_infidel> no better advice than that.
[09:06] <AWOSLappy> Okay I have a saved hex dump.  the problem is, the hexdump is human readable, so the result is the file is not machine readable.  Is there a program somewhere that can fix this?  As in, a program that could take the output of say Hexedit and then translate that in to say an executable file?
[09:07] <scheuri> well, I agree here...but it is not me supporting the machine afterswards...so...I am not compiling anything unless totally necessary...:)
[09:07] <unix_infidel> scheuri: you need Ubuntu to support it?
[09:07] <unix_infidel> meaning the Ubuntu support team?
[09:07] <unix_infidel> (paid support)
[09:07] <scheuri> unix_infidel: well, no, not really...but a team of linux newcomers...
[09:08] <scheuri> unix_infidel: they will start with "aptitude update && upgrade"
[09:08] <vegansickle> hey
[09:08] <AWOSLappy> Hello vegansickle.
[09:08] <scheuri> unix_infidel: and then start compiling and fixing a compiled kernel...;)
[09:08] <unix_infidel> scheuri: newcomers who dont know the in's and out's of handling the a linux system and get paid for it shouldnt get paid for it.
[09:08] <vegansickle> anyone know about 6.10 compiz-kde?
[09:08] <scheuri> unix_infidel: well, I would agree...it is just not that easy in this case...it is a special situation...:)
[09:08] <sephrys> should i compile it?
[09:08] <sephrys> how would i if i dont have the dev files installEd?
[09:09] <unix_infidel> scheuri: if the 686 kernel is giving you a problem, then find one that isnt, make sure that its not some extraneous reason though.
[09:09] <unix_infidel> secondly, you can always use some reputable 3rd party repo that publishes kernels that jive with your needs.
[09:10] <scheuri> unix_infidel: there is no problem with i686 so far...it is just that I thought there might be an issue having more than 4 GB of RAM and using this kernel
[09:10] <unix_infidel> scheuri: nope.  none.
[09:10] <AWOSLappy> As in, the content of the file is a bunch of      000003A6  62 ca 5a 72 b9 30 6a 9a  88 b9 70 d3 ca 86 66 64 b.Zr.0j. ..p...fd
[09:10] <unix_infidel> what kinda server is this?
[09:10] <scheuri> unix_infidel: well then...thanks a lot...:)....well, worst case would be to install "server" kernel and restart...;)
[09:11] <scheuri> unix_infidel: it is a pizza-box (1 Unit high) with a Xeon 2.8 GHz, 4 GB RAM...Intel
[09:11] <scheuri> soon to be two Xeon
[09:11] <unix_infidel> heh, i close those rackmount blades but ok.
[09:11] <scheuri> and 6 GB RAM
[09:11] <unix_infidel> for what purpose.
[09:11] <scheuri> Virtualisation
[09:11] <scheuri> (VMware Server)
[09:11] <unix_infidel> xen or ESX?
[09:11] <scheuri> heh...I wish it was XEN
[09:12] <unix_infidel> ESX or formerly GSX now 1.0
[09:12] <scheuri> VMware Server is former GSX AFAIK...:)
[09:12] <unix_infidel> scheuri: right, that's what i meant.
[09:12] <scheuri> ESX is not an option as it costs too much...it is a small business...
[09:12] <unix_infidel> vmware server?  ESX version or GSX Version, now called 1.0
[09:13] <unix_infidel> i guess that's how i should've stated it above.
[09:13] <scheuri> unix_infidel: check www.vmware.com under "Products" and "Free virtualisation" or soemthing
[09:13] <unix_infidel> scheuri: yea, might try XenE
[09:13] <scheuri> unix_infidel: I wish I could have used XEN, but since we virtualisate(?) Windows NT, 2000 and 2003 and have NO VT, there is no way to go
[09:14] <scheuri> it is a mix between options of software and costs...as usual...:)
[09:14] <unix_infidel> http://xensource.com/products/xen_enterprise/index.html
[09:14] <unix_infidel> scheuri: like i said, XenE
[09:14] <scheuri> oh, Enterprise...
[09:15] <scheuri> unix_infidel: well, yes...that will be surely an option for the future...
[09:15] <scheuri> unix_infidel: thanks for your help
[09:15] <unix_infidel> np
[09:15] <Steven_M> hi all
[09:16] <snpz_> hi
[09:16] <scheuri> hi Steven_M
[09:16] <scheuri> hi snpz_
[09:17] <Steven_M> has anyone here used vmware in Dapper?
[09:17] <seishinbyou> Yes
[09:18] <seishinbyou> and Edgy
[09:18] <scheuri> Steven_M: vmware in dapper? as in dapper host and vmware server installed?
[09:18] <xsacha> server? workstation here
[09:19] <seishinbyou> Workstation is what I am running, too
[09:19] <Steven_M> vmware player
[09:19] <seishinbyou> Okay.  Is there a problem?
[09:21] <Steven_M> I just want to know people's opinion of vmware player before I install it.
[09:21] <seishinbyou> Well, workstation, but player is fine enough when I have created an image
[09:21] <seishinbyou> I don't have to have a Win partition on my work PC anymore
[09:22] <seishinbyou> The few apps and custom in-house progs run fine through the vmware'd WinXP, so I'm very happy
[09:23] <snpz_> i'm thinking of the same
[09:23] <snpz_> because SPSS i need for my studies
[09:23] <snpz_> seishinbyou, u are using vmware on edgy?
[09:23] <seishinbyou> snpz_: Yes
[09:24] <snpz_> and no problems during installation?
[09:24] <seishinbyou> Nope
[09:24] <snpz_> so then edgy it is on my laptop
[09:24] <snpz_> :D
[09:24] <seishinbyou> Either one is fine, actually.  I had no problems on Dapper (well, one minor one)
[09:25] <snpz_> i hate that i have broadcom 4311 chip wifi integrated card on my laptop
[09:25] <snpz_> so wifi works only with ndiswrapper
[09:26] <Steven_M> seishinbyou: is that the player or full version?
[09:26] <seishinbyou> Steven_m > Full version of Workstation
[09:27] <seishinbyou> So far I have a few vmware images used in the company to help speed up development
[09:30] <AWOSLappy> snpz_, are you on Dapper or Edgy?
[09:30] <snpz_> at home on edgy
[09:30] <AWOSLappy> :-(
[09:30] <snpz_> here at work i have to use Win
[09:30] <snpz_> :(
[09:31] <AWOSLappy> I thought Edgy had better support for Broadcom?
[09:32] <snpz_> AWOSLappy, nope
[09:32] <AWOSLappy> :-(
[09:32] <snpz_> i hope that there will be support in kernel soon
[09:32] <AWOSLappy> Oh that would be cool.
[09:33] <snpz_> yesterday checked 2.6.18 changelog
[09:33] <snpz_> nothing
[09:33] <snpz_> :(
[09:33] <shinobi2> e_^
[09:34] <shinobi2> e_e
[09:34] <shinobi2> e_E
[09:34] <seishinbyou> Mac OSX runs on vmware too...sort of...with a "questionably legal" x86 patch...but there are a couple of Mac boxes in the office anyways
[09:36] <Steven_M> seishinbyou: do you think  the preprietry kernel modulous that vmware player uses could do something drasitc to my Dapper system? That's what I'm really worried about.
[09:37] <AWOSLappy> seishinbyou, Um, don't they *make* Mac OS X for x86 now, considering thats what Macs use?
[09:38] <canine_kouji> AWOSLappy: I'm pretty sure everybody here has enough common sense to know he is talking about the non-mac hardware patches
[09:39] <canine_kouji> seishinbyou: does it run slow as pearpc? :)
[09:39] <AWOSLappy> canine_kouji, did you just insult me?  I was honestly asking, I had no clue about non-Mac hardware patches.  You have to tell the OS that there is certain hardware?
[09:40] <canine_kouji> AWOSLappy: macs with x86 have special hardware which isn't exactly out on the open market yet.
[09:40] <canine_kouji> also there seems to be some CPU instruction like SSE3 hindering peopel from installing osx on the common pc
[09:41] <canine_kouji> every time there has been a patch to make osx work on a normal pc, apple pulls the darwin souce. Then people and tech evangelists bitch bitch bitch and apple shares the source again
[09:42] <canine_kouji> I think apple should have had a special intel processor developed just for them. This whole pirate vs apple fight is plain dumb.
[09:42] <canine_kouji> If people want to pirate, I say give them 20 years in the slammer
[09:42] <canine_kouji> theres is PLENTY of opensource software, and there is no excuse to be using pirated software.
[09:43] <AWOSLappy> I say Apple should make a fully-compatible x86 version but charge money for it if they would lose so much money on it.
[09:43] <snpz_> does bcm43xx driver in kernel also supports bcm4311 chip wifi cards?
[09:43] <AWOSLappy> snpz_, From experience, NO.
[09:44] <snpz_> AWOSLappy, :(
[09:44] <seishinbyou> canine_kouji: pig dog slow, but it runs...kind of
[09:44] <canine_kouji> seishinbyou: damn :(
[09:44] <snpz_> i'm really suprised that bcm4311 is not supported by kernel
[09:45] <snpz_> pretty popular wifi chip
[09:45] <AWOSLappy> canine_kouji -- Wouldn't that be a lot better?  To make an x86 version?  Don't they realise that they could have more market share if more computers could run the bloody thing?
[09:45] <seishinbyou> Steven_M: In theory, yes.  In practice, no :)
[09:45] <canine_kouji> seishinbyou: air force 1?
[09:45] <AWOSLappy> snpz_ Yeah.  My Linksys WPC54Gv3 has it.
[09:45] <canine_kouji> AWOSLappy: apple used to sale licenses to others
[09:45] <AWOSLappy> canine_kouji, Yes the 4311 is the AirForce One 54g.
[09:46] <snpz_> my nx6310 from HP has this also
[09:47] <AWOSLappy> snpz_, wow, factory integrated?  That's pretty sucky.
[09:47] <snpz_> yes
[09:47] <snpz_> :(
[09:47] <canine_kouji> AWOSLappy: back when apple used to license their OS to others. Peopel would make apple compatible computers. Peopel were making BETTER hardware than apple. Apple was loosing profits because they didn't charge enough. Apple then stopped the license program and started only using their own hardware
[09:47] <snpz_> works only using ndiswrapper
[09:47] <snpz_> it sucks
[09:47] <AWOSLappy> snpz_ it works using ndiswrapper?  News to me.
[09:47] <canine_kouji> it is a laptop though isn't it?
[09:47] <AWOSLappy> canine_kouji, really?  I had no clue.
[09:48] <snpz_> http://www.mactel-linux.org/wiki/Kernel_Configuration_Guide#Wireless_LAN:_Broadcom_BCM4311
[09:48] <snpz_> hmmmm
[09:48] <canine_kouji> AWOSLappy: apple is better selling for their hardware only, as they don't have to support 20 million other drivers
[09:48] <snpz_> AWOSLappy, it works
[09:48] <canine_kouji> AWOSLappy: apple hardware rocks too. especially the power connector on the new macbooks
[09:49] <AWOSLappy> snpz_, it didn't for me.  It connected but had a strange problem, when I disabled the onboard LAN the WLAN stopped working.  and the only way to get *either* working again is to reboot the computer.
[09:49] <canine_kouji> the magsafe connector or whatever the hell its called
[09:49] <AWOSLappy> canine_kouji, is it better then the stupid prongs?
[09:49] <Steven_M> seishinbyou: and just to confirm you have run vmware on Dapper before you got Edgy?
[09:49] <snpz_> AWOSLappy, strange
[09:49] <canine_kouji> AWOSLappy: with the newst macbook, you can't pull the laptop to the floor by dragging the power cable, it is magnetically connected
[09:50] <AWOSLappy> snpz_, yeah.  ifconfig eth0 down == doomsday on the computer.
[09:50] <bc> selam millet
[09:50] <AWOSLappy> canine_kouji, wow that's COOL.
[09:50] <snpz_> AWOSLappy, :D:D:D
[09:50] <AWOSLappy> snpz_ hehe
[09:50] <AWOSLappy> snpz_ You wouldn't be smiling if you had gone through it :P
[09:50] <snpz_> good description "doomsday
[09:50] <snpz_> :D
[09:51] <AWOSLappy> snpz_ hehe yeah
[09:51] <canine_kouji> I'm still using 6.04 :) is 6.10 upgrade okay?
[09:51] <AWOSLappy> Anyways I should be going to be now.  Goodnight all.
[09:51] <snpz_> c u
[09:51] <snpz_> canine_kouji
[09:51] <AWOSLappy> canine_kouji well you could dist-upgrade but that would suck.
[09:51] <canine_kouji> AWOSLappy: I heard it would :)
[09:51] <snpz_> just edit you sources.list
[09:51] <AWOSLappy> canine_kouji dist-upgrade'ing could break the whole system.
[09:52] <AWOSLappy> Goodnight
[09:52] <snpz_> then do update and dist-upgrade
[09:52] <canine_kouji> I'm not sure what I would need in order for it to not suck
[09:52] <Lam_> does this work? (Java)   Integer intObj = 5; int intNum = intObj;
[09:52] <Lam_> oh duh. i can just compile it and test
[09:52] <canine_kouji> eww java
[09:53] <canine_kouji> thank god I can pick whatever I want to program in :)
[09:54] <seishinbyou> Steven_M: Yes
[09:54] <seishinbyou> I did a clean install for Edgy though; the upgrade bombed out horribly
[09:54] <seishinbyou> individually, though, I had VMWare running on both Dapper and Edgy
[09:54] <james> ok i am new to linux and have tried several other livecd combos and have come up against a wall anyone game for a question?
[09:55] <Steven_M> seishinbyou: thanks very much for your help
[09:55] <Steven_M> :)
[09:56] <james> assuming yes i have a dvd burned on a mac osx system so the files are written as root
[09:56] <canine_kouji> maybe I'll just keep running 6.04 until 7.whatever
[09:56] <james> i use vlc , mplayer , and kaffeine as media programs
[09:57] <james> how can i play these root files? without converting each one to a user format?
[09:58] <james> it gets annoying having to enter a password for each file i wish to play
[09:58] <sephrys> whats beryl like?
[09:59] <james> hello anyone there who can help?
[10:00] <seishinbyou> Beryl is everything to all men, and perhaps to one special lady
[10:00] <seishinbyou> Seriously, it's okay, but all the features used together makes the whole environment a bit distracting
[10:01] <flaccid> Jucato: you alive?
[10:01] <Jucato> flaccid: barely :)
[10:01] <flaccid> hehe, can i bug you for those style components that edgy uses. i got a dapper install here
[10:02] <Jucato> flaccid: Plastik
[10:02] <flaccid> oh yeah
[10:02] <flaccid> ty
[10:02] <Jucato> no problem
[10:04] <flaccid> Jucato: how do i get that gradient in the window decoration
[10:05] <flaccid> oh plastik colour scheme too
[10:05] <Jucato> flaccid: er no. the color scheme is Kubuntu's own
[10:05] <Jucato> kubuntuColors.kcsrc
[10:05] <flaccid> hmmm how do i get the gradient in the title bar back
[10:05] <Jucato> flaccid: and although both Dapper and Edgy use Crystal window decorations, kwwii made changes to the Edgy version
[10:06] <flaccid> hmmm
[10:06] <flaccid> can't seem to get dapper to look like edgy
[10:06] <Jucato> well, you won't be able to exactly make it look like Edgy, specially the window buttons.
[10:07] <Jucato> I'm not sure what other changes were done to the Crystal engine in Edgy
[10:08] <james> i'll try again is there any one who can help we permission problems?
[10:08] <james> with
[10:09] <eilker> fdoving: r u there, i wanna share my solution for kde logging problem:))) sometimes life is funny
[10:10] <binary2k2> james: what's the problem?
[10:10] <james> ok thank you for responding
[10:11] <eka> YOUR SAUCE WILL MIX WITH OURS AND WE'LL MAKE A GOOD GULOSH BAYBEH
[10:11] <Admiral_Chicago> !caps > eka
[10:11] <james> i have a data dvd quite a few that were burned on a mac osX machine and the files were written as root
[10:12] <eka> yikes
[10:12] <binary2k2> james: yes
[10:12] <eka> !caps > eka
[10:12] <eka>  ... awesome o.o
[10:12] <eka> !caps > admiral_chicago
[10:13] <james> i have tried running krusader in root mode it reads the files but can not access kaffeine , mplayer , or vlc because they do not have root access
[10:13] <james> when you open the dvd as a folder it show the files as locked
[10:13] <binary2k2> james: is the dvd mounted as root?
[10:14] <binary2k2> james: or user?
[10:14] <james> not sure
[10:14] <james> how would you mount it as user
[10:15] <binary2k2> james: from the cli you add -o uid=1000 to the end of the command
[10:15] <binary2k2> james: or in /etc/fstab add "user" to the options
[10:15] <james> what is cli
[10:15] <binary2k2> !cli
[10:15] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[10:16] <james> yea am familiar with terminal
[10:16] <james> just never heard it called that
[10:16] <binary2k2> james: it's short hand :P
[10:16] <james> well thanks will check it out
[10:17] <james> well any ideas because media burned on a pc doesn't have locked files
[10:18] <binary2k2> james: what filesystem did you use to burn it? iso udf? and what extentions eg rockridge?
[10:19] <james> iso9660
[10:19] <james> here is my line from fstab dev/hdd        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[10:20] <binary2k2> james: do you know if you enabled rockridge? because that can store file permissions
[10:20] <james> so what should i change if anything
[10:20] <binary2k2> james: the fstab line it correct
[10:20] <james> no i don't
[10:21] <james> so i have maybe 50 burned dvds with data i can't read ... any help what now
[10:21] <binary2k2> james: unmount it and try mounting it wilth the command "sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0  -t iso9660-o uid=1000"
[10:21] <binary2k2> james: replace hdc with hdc
[10:21] <binary2k2> *hdd
[10:22] <binary2k2> cant type for crap :P
[10:22] <james> ok i will try that be right back
[10:23] <james> says can unmount device busy
[10:24] <binary2k2> james: do you have any app using the dvd?
[10:26] <james> just checked running process and no
[10:27] <eka> a long ass fuckin time ago in a town called kickapoo there lived humble family, religious through and through, but there lived a blacksheep and knew just what to do, he was called young jb and he wrote a tasty jam, all the planets did align
[10:28] <binary2k2> james: no kinqu open or kaffine?
[10:28] <james> nope
[10:28] <gsuveg> re
[10:28] <binary2k2> james: try the command "sudo lsof|grep hdd"
[10:29] <binary2k2> james: and "sudo lsof|grep cdrom"
[10:29] <gsuveg> its possible to sync mobile calendar via bluethoot with kontact ?
[10:30] <james> yeah it shows konqueror and krusader
[10:30] <binary2k2> try closing/killing them
[10:31] <binary2k2> then unmount
[10:31] <james> says insufficient permission to kill krusader
[10:31] <binary2k2> james: use sudo
[10:31] <james> sudo what?
[10:32] <binary2k2> james: sudo killall krusader
[10:32] <james> thanks
[10:35] <ferro> i
[10:35] <ferro> hi
[10:35] <james> thank that worked
[10:36] <Admiral_Chicago> hello
[10:36] <james> it mounted the drive correctly and no locked files
[10:36] <binary2k2> kewl :D
[10:36] <ferro> have a problem. CAN SOMEONE HELP ME?
[10:36] <Jucato> !ask
[10:36] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[10:37] <ferro> ok..
[10:37] <james> ok mr binary i have been working around this problem for a long time
[10:37] <max_> what do i need to do to add wmv/mp3's to burn an Audio cd in k3b, when i try it says <Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format>
[10:38] <james> so should i just run a script every time i want to open my dvd?
[10:38] <ferro> I tried to install gnome graphic interface on kubuntu. I din't succeed and I unintaled gnome packages..
[10:38] <Admiral_Chicago> ferro: we can try, but there is no garuntee we can help
[10:38] <ferro> ..now kde doesn't work prperly|
[10:38] <max_> what do i need to do to add wmv/mp3's to burn an Audio cd in k3b, when i try it says <Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format>
[10:39] <ferro> thanks adm
[10:39] <binary2k2> james: are you the only user at that pc?
[10:39] <james> yes\
[10:40] <james> can i add a line in fstab
[10:40] <binary2k2> james: just add uid=1000 to the options in fstab then
[10:40] <james> cool
[10:40] <binary2k2> james: like udf,iso9660 user,noauto,uid=1000
[10:40] <max_> what do i need to do to add wmv/mp3's to burn an Audio cd in k3b, when i try it says <Unable to handle the following files due to an unsupported format>
[10:41] <eka> !max_ > caps
[10:41] <max_> caps?
[10:41] <eka> neg don't worry bout it ;)
[10:41] <eka> !james > caps
[10:41] <eka> rawrawr
[10:41] <eka> it's not working
[10:42] <max_> caps!
[10:42] <max_> !caps
[10:42] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:42] <eka> !caps
[10:42] <eka> RAWR
[10:42] <eka> hmm no dice
[10:42] <eka> !caps
[10:42] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:42] <eka> ahah
[10:43] <james> will that limit the device to only that filesystem
[10:43] <james> ??
[10:43] <ferro> Someone can help me?
[10:44] <james> cool did it
[10:44] <james> so simple
[10:45] <binary2k2> james: it will just always mount with all files owned by you
[10:45] <james> righteous dude
[10:46] <Admiral_Chicago> please don't flod the channel
[10:46] <james> so while i have you what is the short answer as to the difference btwn kernel headers and sources? if you feel like it?
[10:46] <Admiral_Chicago> ferro: what is the probelm
[10:46] <Admiral_Chicago> any symtoms in general
[10:47] <james> not that important just curious i can read about it on line thanks again
[10:47] <ferro> no application bar.. only firexox icon
[10:47] <eka> !caps
[10:47] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:47] <james> bye and thanks again
[10:48] <ferro> i surely unistall same important package
[10:49] <ferro> ...no "start" button
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> ferro: add a panel
[10:50] <ferro> how can i do it?
[10:50] <Admiral_Chicago> right click on the desktop, add a panel, i'm not sure which noe
[10:54] <ferro> Admiral: Thank you now everything is right
[10:55] <johey> How do I get rid of the security update icon in the tray? In Dapper, it disapeared after I installed the updated packages, but now it's still there, telling me there are packages to update... Like it doesn't care that I really have updated them.
[10:56] <eka> this is not the greatest song in the world, no, this is just a tribute
[10:56] <Admiral_Chicago> ferro: np
[10:56] <eka> !caps
[10:56] <ubotu> PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[10:57] <kalbo> jucato !
[10:57] <eka> juuuuuuuuuuuuucato!
[10:57] <Jucato> dude_: hi
[10:58] <DeVaDe> I need little help
[10:58] <eka> excellent
[10:58] <eka> ask the question
[10:58] <DeVaDe> Can Kubuntu be a DG from 2 networx
[10:58] <DeVaDe> a two client VPN connections
[10:58] <DeVaDe> and one computer with Windows use them to connect to the two different
[10:59] <DeVaDe> networx
[11:01] <DeVaDe> Is it impsoble?
[11:04] <ferro> amiral: may i ask??
[11:06] <ferro> Admiral: still troubles...
[11:06] <Admiral_Chicago> ferro: go ahead
[11:08] <ferro> now i have my pannel but it is empty i tried to add applications to it but it looks different and i cann't find adept!
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> ferro: alt + F2
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> kdesu adept_manager
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> you probably added the wrong panel there are several of them
[11:10] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure, i'm not on KDE right now to help you look around thing
[11:17] <Steven_M> are there any Synchronet packages for ubuntu?
[11:17] <Admiral_Chicago> going to bed
[11:18] <Steven_M> hi all
[11:20] <eilker> what is the difference between kubuntu and kubuntu server ? is it only gui and lamp server ? if i install lamp server on kubuntu, does it become kubuntu server ?
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> eilker: i think the server has no GUI
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> but don't quote me on that
[11:20] <Admiral_Chicago> bbl i'm off to bed
[11:20] <eilker> i know it, ok:)
[11:21] <ferro> Admiral: my client disconnected... hope i haven't lost your answer
[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> ferro: alt + F2
[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> kdesu adept_manager
[11:22] <Admiral_Chicago> you probably added the wrong panel there are several of them
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure how much more i can help, i'm not on KDE atm
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> plus i have to go to be soon
[11:23] <Admiral_Chicago> like now, i have to be up in like 3 hours
[11:26] <ferro> ok buy
[11:27] <Kabal> Hi all, I've upgraded 6.0.6.1 to 6.10 and it all went ok.. but now there's a power manager that starts every time..
[11:27] <Kabal> where can I find this shortcut to remove..? so it won't start at startup.
[11:28] <Kabal> I've tried to search for it.. but I cannot find it :(
[11:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Kabal: try ~/.AutoStart
[11:31] <Admiral_Chicago> i think that's what it's called
[11:32] <Jucato> guidance-power-manager.desktop in /usr/share/autostart
[11:35] <Kabal> Jucato: thanx that's the path I was looking for..
[11:35] <Kabal> I also see bluetooth here.. can I remove that too without probs? (I don't use bluetooth)
[11:39] <Kabal> Jucato: nm problem solved :)
[11:41] <blackflag> is there a way to see the boot messages during booting of edgy?
[11:42] <eilker> in consol which command shows my wan ip  ?
[11:43] <eilker> i am behind a router
[11:45] <JohnFlux> how do i reinstall a package including all the configuration files
[11:46] <Jucato> JohnFlux: sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package> ?
[11:46] <JohnFlux> i want to reinstall my /etc/cups/cups.conf
[11:46] <JohnFlux> doing --reinstall won't touch the configuration files
[11:46] <Jucato> JohnFlux: if you have config files in your ~/.kde, they will override the ones in /etc or /usr
[11:46] <blackflag> eilker: http://www.wieistmeineip.de/
[11:47] <JohnFlux> i want to reinstall the /etc/cups/cups.conf file
[11:47] <eilker> blackflag: i try to get it from consol
[11:48] <Jucato> JohnFlux: you can download whatever package installs that, then open the package in Ark and just extract that specific file
[11:48] <JohnFlux> dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/cupsys_1.2.4-2ubuntu3_amd64.deb
[11:48] <JohnFlux> there we go
[11:48] <JohnFlux> there's probably a better way though
[11:48] <JohnFlux> but that worked
[11:48] <Jucato> :)
[11:55] <LaCReMeL> watch that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwvMRLAzMBw
[12:01] <Logi> hello
[12:01] <Logi> I've managed to mess up my X ocnfiguration by going into kcontrol and the display options there and mess with the dual-screen setup
[12:02] <Logi> I've reverted the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and now X and kdm start properly, but once I'm logged in it looks like some local settings kick in and one screen goes black but the mouse can travel there and the other gets a margin on the bottom and right where kde doesn't place any windows, but again the mous will travel there
[12:03] <Logi> any idea if there is something in ~/.kde that I can quietly delete and it'll forget about this stuff?
[12:03] <Logi> oh, and good morning :)
[12:03] <Logi> well.. it will be as soon as I get my machine back...
[12:07] <Logi> .kde/share/config/displayconfigrc looks like it...
[12:07] <Logi> if I don't come back within 6 hours, send an X rescue team!
[12:10] <Linux_Galore_> whats the difference between suspend and hybernate in the shutdown menu
[12:11] <Logi> ok, that did it
[12:12] <Linux_Galore_> hmm suspend works
[12:13] <Linux_Galore_> hybernate doesnt
[12:23] <n0va> help? edgy keeps locking up the desktop (-mouse) is there a fix for the nvidia driver?
[12:29] <MidMark> suspend keeps on the pc in theory, hibernate turn completely ogg
[12:29] <MidMark> off
[12:48] <brosioz>  how could i allow my user to edit /var/www ???
[12:49] <xwolf-> chmod?
[12:49] <oxy> how install netcat  ?
[12:49] <xwolf-> !x-window-system-core
[12:49] <ubotu> x-window-system-core: transitional package for Debian etch. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB
[12:50] <Ash-Fox> Would anyone happen to know of a PNG2GIF converter?
[12:51] <Hobbsee> brosioz: use sudo.
[12:51] <Hobbsee> !search netcat
[12:51] <ubotu> Found:
[12:52] <Hobbsee> !info netcat
[12:52] <ubotu> netcat: TCP/IP swiss army knife. In component main, is important. Version 1.10-32 (edgy), package size 64 kB, installed size 228 kB
[12:52] <Hobbsee> oxy: sudo apt-get install netcat, in a terminal
[12:54] <eka> !caps > fildo
[01:01] <NewBee> any software wehre i can listen to internet radio?
[01:03] <brosioz> NewBee: streamtuner
[01:03] <NewBee> thanks
[01:09] <usamahashimi> hi all
[01:10] <usamahashimi> can anyone tell me that how can i install my HP Scanjet 2400 scanner?
[01:14] <usamahashimi> !scanner
[01:14] <ubotu> Scanning software: XSane, the gimp, Kooka. For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners
[01:18] <swanfl> this will sound silly but I'm no expert so I will ask. Gaim in adept is a little behind what's on the website. Will that cause a problem within adept if I compile and install it?
[01:21] <swanfl> that probably wasn't too clear. What I want to know is, if I uninstall gaim, then compile from source, will that mess things up in adept if and when adept gets the latest Gaim?
[01:21] <[cf] nightrid3r> swanfl: if its like 2 versions behind and you install from source an update might overwrite it with 1 version behind
[01:21] <swanfl> hmmm
[01:22] <swanfl> well, I will run checkinstall and keep the deb file
[01:22] <[cf] nightrid3r> swanfl: and adept doesn't know if u use source
[01:22] <[cf] nightrid3r> thats azlso possible, then adept knows :)
[01:22] <swanfl> :)
[01:23] <swanfl> I wonder why they are behind. (I'm not trolling, just curious)
[01:24] <[cf] nightrid3r> swanfl: it takes time to update packages, so maybe upload your deb to a repo and keep it up to date :)
[01:25] <swanfl> I can do that?
[01:25] <swanfl> way cool!
[01:25] <[GuS] > bonjour les gens...
[01:25] <[cf] nightrid3r> swanfl: thats how linux distro's work
[01:26] <swanfl> btw, prior to switching to kubuntu, I used another distro. I assume I have to use the same switches?
[01:26] <swanfl> specifically, spell checking?
[01:26] <[cf] nightrid3r> swanfl: it will also give you eternal fame
[01:26] <swanfl> that's cool :)
[01:27] <[cf] nightrid3r> !repositories
[01:27] <ubotu> The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[01:29] <swanfl> how do I upload to a repository? that page only shows how to add them in adept
[01:29] <[cf] nightrid3r> looking into it
[01:29] <swanfl> er, add repositories to adept
[01:29] <gnomefreak> swanfl: you cant upload to a ubuntu repo there are only certain people that can
[01:29] <swanfl> thanks :)
[01:30] <swanfl> ok
[01:30] <swanfl> gotcha
[01:31] <[cf] nightrid3r> hmmm cant find anything :(
[01:32] <[cf] nightrid3r> swanfl: maybe try to find a 3rd party repo and get access there
[01:33] <swanfl> that's a thought :)
[01:33] <Jucato> unless it's absolutely necessary for you to use the latest GAIM version, I would not recommend adding 3rd party repos unless they specifically say that they have been built for Ubuntu. But even so, still be wary of just adding repos without consideration.
[01:36] <[cf] nightrid3r> swanfl: or put up your own repo with software you maintain :D
[01:41] <swanfl> hmmm
[01:42] <swanfl> thou hast piqued my curiosity :D
[01:44] <[cf] nightrid3r> swanfl: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/repository-howto/repository-howto.en.html
[01:44] <Jucato> swanfl: just remember that a lot of reasons could be behind why a package isn't updated as soon as a new release is um.. released: checking that the new release and its dependencies  won't break system stability and security, testing/building on different architectures, and someone to do all of the above :)
[01:45] <swanfl> well put, Jucato
[01:45] <swanfl> :)
[01:52] <delight> !realplayer
[01:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[01:53] <swanfl> gtg, thanks for all the help
[01:56] <delight> why is realplayer and opera (closed source) not released to edgy for easy install like it is for dapper ?
[01:57] <gnomefreak> delight: because they are closed source
[01:57] <Jucato> gnomefreak: any news when edgy-commercial might be enabled?
[01:58] <SHRIKEE> http://squid.sothq.net/memory.jpg. what does this mean?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> Jucato: thought it was already but no i havent heard anything.
[01:59] <Jucato> it's empty, last I checked
[01:59] <gnomefreak> SHRIKEE: looks like you dont have a swap
[01:59] <Jucato> I used Hawkwind's repo for Opera
[01:59] <SHRIKEE> yesterday i had
[01:59] <gnomefreak> Jucato: let me look in add/remove but its feisty so it may not be there
[01:59] <SHRIKEE> also, why is my memory full, i just booted the laptop, and thres nothing else running but konversation and konqueror
[02:00] <Jucato> gnomefreak: does it make any difference if I checked the repos online directly?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> SHRIKEE: because you dont have a swap
[02:00] <SHRIKEE> how do i get it back
[02:00] <gnomefreak> SHRIKEE: you have to make one but i cant remember how :( you can do it right in terminal iirc
[02:01] <SHRIKEE> ...
[02:01] <gnomefreak> !swap
[02:01] <ubotu> swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info
[02:01] <SHRIKEE> hold on ill make another screen
[02:01] <Jucato> gnomefreak: I just noticed that a lot of people have been having problems with swap after upgrading to Edgy
[02:02] <SHRIKEE> http://squid.sothq.net/swap.jpg. looks like its fucked up?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu edgy-commercial main
[02:03] <gnomefreak> SHRIKEE: check top to see if there is a swap made
[02:03] <gnomefreak> Jucato: thats the edgy repo
[02:03] <Jucato> gnomefreak: it's not empty anymore?
[02:03] <gnomefreak> that i dont know
[02:03] <gnomefreak> im not running edgy on this box :(
[02:04] <SHRIKEE> im telling you, i had a swap yesterday, because my laptop wasnt as slow as it is now then
[02:04] <SHRIKEE> Mem:    507860k total,   483656k used,    24204k free,    15148k buffers
[02:04] <SHRIKEE> Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,   252372k cached
[02:04] <SHRIKEE>   PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S PU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
[02:04] <SHRIKEE> wth
[02:04] <Jucato> gnomefreak: the packages.gz for binary-i386 is empty
[02:05] <gnomefreak> k
[02:05] <Jucato> !pastebin | SHRIKEE
[02:05] <ubotu> SHRIKEE: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:05] <SHRIKEE> its 3 lines...
[02:05] <SHRIKEE> anyway, does anyone know why the swap is gone all of the sudden?
[02:05] <hades> from where i can download complete package ( kubuntu one ) from the net?
[02:06] <gnomefreak> hades: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:06] <gnomefreak> brb have something to tend to
[02:07] <Jucato> SHRIKEE: I think some people were having problems with swap too. I'm presuming that since you're using a laptop, you did something like suspend or hibernate?
[02:07] <SHRIKEE> nope
[02:07] <SHRIKEE> the only change i made since last night:
[02:07] <SHRIKEE> set cpu throttling when the lid is closed
[02:07] <SHRIKEE> i woke up 30 minutes ago and it was slow as hell
[02:08] <SHRIKEE> checked what wsa wrong
[02:08] <SHRIKEE> adn found this out
[02:08] <intelikey> it's ubuntu ?
[02:08] <Jucato> hm... can you type "blkid" in Konsole, then look for the line for your swap partition. check if it's TYPE="swsuspend"?
[02:08] <SHRIKEE> kubuntu
[02:08] <hades> from where i can download complete package ( kubuntu one ) from the net?
[02:08] <Jucato> hades: what complete package?
[02:08] <hades> from where i can download complete freeciv package ( kubuntu one ) from the net?
[02:08] <hades> sorry
[02:09] <Jucato> !freeciv
[02:09] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about freeciv - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:09] <SHRIKEE> i see mno sw suspend
[02:09] <polter> Hi everyone, I seem to have lost the graphical boot-up screen for Kubuntu... can you apt-get that?
[02:09] <Jucato> hm...
[02:09] <hades> ?
[02:09] <intelikey> !freeciv-client-gtk
[02:09] <ubotu> freeciv-client-gtk: Civilization turn based strategy game (GTK+ client). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8-3 (edgy), package size 381 kB, installed size 1020 kB
[02:10] <intelikey> !freeciv-server
[02:10] <ubotu> freeciv-server: Civilization turn based strategy game (server files). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8-3 (edgy), package size 416 kB, installed size 1060 kB
[02:10] <Jucato> hehe intelikey beat me to it :P
[02:10] <intelikey> Jucato less typing  :)
[02:10] <josh_> hows it going all
[02:10] <intelikey> for a search i hit  q <string>
[02:10] <Jucato> intelikey: I had to "find freeciv" :P
[02:10] <hades> jucato: it doesent mean anything to me i have the dapper drake i dont want to download the whole new ubuntu
[02:11] <j2daosh> anyone ever had to reconfigure their soundcard?
[02:11] <hades> jucato: from where i can download just the freeciv package?
[02:11] <Jucato> hades from the repository, using Adept or apt-get
[02:11] <intelikey> hades did you not see the package names ^^^
[02:12] <Jucato> intelikey: feed him the ones for Dapper :P
[02:12] <SHRIKEE> so uhm, Jucato, there is no swsuspend. why is my swap not active?
[02:12] <intelikey> there is not freeciv package there are freeciv-client-gtk freeciv-client-xaw3d freeciv-data freeciv-server
[02:12] <hades> jucato: i can see the package names but i cant download them couse propably i have the 6.06 version
[02:13] <Jucato> !freeciv-client-gtk dapper | hades
[02:13] <ubotu> freeciv-client-gtk: Civilization turn based strategy game (GTK+ client). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.8-1 (dapper), package size 367 kB, installed size 992 kB
[02:13] <j2daosh> anyone ever had to reconfigure their soundcard?
[02:13] <intelikey> and that list is dapper.
[02:14] <hades> shit, apt-get cant find the package
[02:14] <SHRIKEE> then use apedt
[02:14] <SHRIKEE> just type freeciv
[02:14] <hades> i did
[02:14] <SHRIKEE> and it looks it up for you
[02:14] <Jucato> hades: you need to enable "universe"
[02:14] <SHRIKEE> also add the right repositories
[02:14] <Jucato> !repositories | hades
[02:14] <ubotu> hades: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu
[02:14] <intelikey> j2daosh soundcard is not a package. kinda hard to reconfigure hardware....
[02:14] <hades> jucato: how?
[02:15] <Jucato> ^^^^^^
[02:15] <hades> ok
[02:15] <intelikey> j2daosh you mean reconfigure alsa ?
[02:15] <intelikey> !sound
[02:15] <ubotu> If you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:15] <j2daosh> i dont know... i had onboard sound then bought a soundblaster audigy
[02:16] <intelikey> see the links above ^
[02:16] <j2daosh> i have went into the alsamixer and changed the sound card, changes the default sound card in asoundconf but still nothing
[02:16] <SHRIKEE> *swap still not working*
[02:17] <wimpies> Hi all, need some help with ifupdown ... Upgraded some packages and now I get SIOCSIFADDR : Permission denied when running ifup eth0
[02:17] <wimpies> card works under windows
[02:18] <Skatval> anyone for hlep here
[02:18] <intelikey> !wifi
[02:18] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:18] <Skatval> help*
[02:18] <j2daosh> Skatval: needed or helping?
[02:19] <j2daosh> s/needed/needing
[02:19] <Skatval> needed
[02:19] <j2daosh> whats the issue?
[02:19] <Skatval> when i load a page on which is applet, apllet is loading, and when applet starts my browser closes
[02:20] <SHRIKEE> !pastebin
[02:20] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[02:20] <j2daosh> i assume you have installed java correctly?
[02:20] <SHRIKEE> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31433/ this look like no fstab i ever seen :(
[02:20] <Skatval> yes
[02:20] <SHRIKEE> help me out here please
[02:20] <Jucato> !UUID | SHRIKEE
[02:20] <ubotu> SHRIKEE: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid"
[02:21] <Jucato> SHRIKEE: try checking if the UUID of your swap partition and your fstab entry match
[02:21] <SHRIKEE> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31434/
[02:21] <SHRIKEE> look again :)
[02:22] <SHRIKEE> seems to match
[02:22] <intelikey> SHRIKEE what about it ?
[02:22] <SHRIKEE> well, my swap is not working and im trying to figure it out
[02:23] <intelikey> how do you know swap is not working ?
[02:23] <Th3_Cr0up13R> hey there
[02:23] <SHRIKEE> http://squid.sothq.net/memory.jpg look at that
[02:23] <Th3_Cr0up13R> how do i change information on the hostmask on the nickname?
[02:24] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i dont like what its showing
[02:24] <intelikey> SHRIKEE it's a picture. just tell me.
[02:24] <SHRIKEE> well thats my system... it says there is no swap
[02:24] <SHRIKEE> while there is
[02:24] <SHRIKEE> last night there was
[02:24] <SHRIKEE> and now its not working
[02:25] <intelikey> sudo swapon -a
[02:25] <BluesKaj> Howdy All ! :)
[02:25] <SHRIKEE> shrikee@shrikee-laptop:~$ sudo swapon -a
[02:25] <SHRIKEE> swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/f213aa7b-7b72-4b88-a5af-5c04eb1570d2: Invalid argument
[02:26] <Skatval> j2daosh: any suggestions, i searched on google but it seems to be nothing discused about that problem
[02:27] <intelikey> hmmm adressing error....  grep "f213aa7b-7b72-4b88-a5af-5c04eb1570d2" /etc/blk*
[02:27] <intelikey> and yes i know that's just another way to check what jucato said check.
[02:27] <j2daosh> ok im back
[02:28] <j2daosh> ok, so your problem is that you java java installed correctly, the applet loads but once its done it closes the browser
[02:28] <Skatval> yes
[02:28] <SHRIKEE> hmm what should that do, because it just shows me a new prompt
[02:29] <SHRIKEE> hm nm typo
[02:29] <intelikey> SHRIKEE ummm hmmm  ok undo the change in fstab and see what swapon does.
[02:29] <SHRIKEE> what change?
[02:30] <intelikey> # /dev/sda5 -- converted during upgrade to edgy to \n UUID=f213aa7b-7b72-4b88-a5af-5c04eb1570d2 so unconvert it.
[02:30] <SHRIKEE> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31437/
[02:30] <SHRIKEE> last bit
[02:32] <SHRIKEE> intelikey: does that tell you anything? the pastebin?
[02:32] <j2daosh> ur right... there doesn't seem to be any discussion on your problem Skatval
[02:32] <j2daosh> give me a sec to keepo looking
[02:32] <Skatval> ok, tnx
[02:36] <intelikey> SHRIKEE have you tested the partition ?  fsck(and/or badblocks) /dev/sda5
[02:36] <intelikey> what if it's a disk error
[02:37] <SHRIKEE> ill do that now
[02:38] <SHRIKEE> intelikey: just sudo fsck /dev/sda5 ?
[02:38] <j2daosh> im getting nothing Skatval i think u found a new bug! :P
[02:39] <j2daosh> only thing i can think of
[02:39] <SHRIKEE> intelikey: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31438/ bottom
[02:39] <j2daosh> delete your cache, cookies, and history
[02:39] <intelikey> shrikee yes.    and well it's inconcievable that it would be a module/kernel issue seeing that sda1 is mounting ok....  and the addressing seems to be correct....
[02:39] <j2daosh> restart ur comp and try again
[02:40] <Skatval> this problem appears only on some applets, some work
[02:40] <intelikey> SHRIKEE yeah that's why i mentioned badblocks thought you might not have a util for that.
[02:41] <SHRIKEE> oh its a program :o
[02:41] <SHRIKEE> hmmk
[02:41] <Jucato> msg ubotu beryl
[02:41] <SHRIKEE> !badblocks help
[02:41] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about badblocks help - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:41] <SHRIKEE> :(
[02:41] <Jucato> lol forgot the /
[02:42] <SHRIKEE> !badblocks /help
[02:42] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about badblocks /help - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[02:43] <intelikey> man badblocks    it has a man page.
[02:45] <intelikey> SHRIKEE or just mkswap /dev/sda5 -c
[02:45] <intelikey> that will also run badblocks on it.  and reformat it for swapping
[02:46] <SHRIKEE> k
[02:46] <SHRIKEE> ill try that
[02:46] <intelikey> you'll have to   swapon -a     to activate it still
[02:47] <alejo_> ciao non riesco a lanciare un file.out, qualcuno puo aiutarmi??
[02:47] <intelikey> errr swapon /dev/sda5     giving it a dirrect device might help.
[02:47] <SHRIKEE> the mkswap is suposed tot take a while?
[02:48] <intelikey> depending on the partition size yes
[02:48] <SHRIKEE> ah here we  go
[02:48] <SHRIKEE> shrikee@shrikee-laptop:~$ sudo mkswap /dev/sda5 -c
[02:48] <SHRIKEE> Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 1521639 kB
[02:48] <SHRIKEE> no label, UUID=76a9871b-42be-42cc-8b65-cfeaf6f69bc8
[02:48] <Jucato> grr.... what's happening to me...
[02:49] <SHRIKEE> ok also did the swapon /dev/sda5
[02:49] <SHRIKEE> seems to work so far
[02:49] <SHRIKEE> in kinfocenter now shows a swap
[02:49] <SHRIKEE> 16mb ram usage
[02:49] <SHRIKEE> eh 16%
[02:49] <intelikey> i don't know but it can't be hacker/script-kiddy someone streightened me right out about that.  seems there is no such thing....  :)
[02:49] <intelikey> Jucato ^
[02:50] <Hobbsee> Jucato: you're going crazy
[02:50] <SHRIKEE> intelikey: what i just did, the last few steps. does it automount and tsuff? or do i need to do something else?
[02:50] <Jucato> lol
[02:50] <Jucato> I was wondering why I got disconnected :P
[02:50] <SHRIKEE> Jucato has left this server (Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)).
[02:51] <Jucato> who's this peer that reset my connection? hehehe j/k
[02:51] <intelikey> SHRIKEE it should automount yes.   if it doesn't then the id tag "UUID" must be wrong.
[02:51] <SHRIKEE> ok intelikey, im gonna reboot now, to see if it works as it should, brb
[02:52] <intelikey> /ban peer@* <reason> leave jucato alone....
[02:52] <Jucato> lol
[02:52] <intelikey> :)
[02:56] <SHRIKEE> YOU BETTER HIDE :P
[02:56] <SHRIKEE> it doesnt automount :(
[02:57] <SHRIKEE> i had to do swapon /dev/sda5 again
[02:57] <intelikey> did you change the fstab like i sujested ?
[02:57] <SHRIKEE> no didnt change it no,
[02:57] <SHRIKEE> what was it again?
[02:58] <intelikey> sed 's/UUID=f213aa7b-7b72-4b88-a5af-5c04eb1570d2//dev/sda5/' /etc/fstab >> new.fstab
[02:58] <SHRIKEE> >.<
[02:59] <intelikey> and have a look at new.fstab    :)
[02:59] <v3ctor> eww
[03:00] <intelikey> SHRIKEE err lest change the delimiters there.
[03:00] <v3ctor>  sed 's/UUID=f213aa7b-7b72-4b88-a5af-5c04eb1570d2/\/dev\/sda5/' /etc/fstab >> new.fstab
[03:00] <SHRIKEE> im not following..
[03:00] <intelikey> sed 's_UUID=f213aa7b-7b72-4b88-a5af-5c04eb1570d2_/dev/sda5_' /etc/fstab >> new.fstab
[03:00] <SHRIKEE> that whole thing is a command?
[03:00] <intelikey> yeah.
[03:00] <SHRIKEE> ok, hold on
[03:00] <SHRIKEE> done
[03:01] <intelikey> look in new.fstab and if it all looks ok to you then put it for the fstab.
[03:01] <SHRIKEE> tis empty
[03:02] <intelikey> then it's not ok.
[03:02] <sheers> !! nvidia
[03:02] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[03:02] <intelikey> lol
[03:02] <SHRIKEE> *sighs* fucking linux
[03:02] <intelikey> ok edit fstab  and do the switching manually
[03:03] <SHRIKEE> oh wait, it has saved it in my ~home
[03:03] <intelikey> yes
[03:03] <Jucato> O_o
[03:04] <intelikey> Jucato correct. i expected him to know that... me assumes to much again.
[03:04] <Jucato> :)
[03:04] <Tm_T> !java
[03:04] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[03:04] <SHRIKEE> well i know a fair bit, but not much all together
[03:04] <Jucato> g'day Tm_T, sir!
[03:04] <snpz_> In kernel configuration when i whant to select Procesor type - which one is correct one for Intel Solo Core?
[03:04] <SHRIKEE> hmk opening new.fstab
[03:05] <SHRIKEE> !pastebin
[03:05] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:05] <Jucato> much ado about nothing?
[03:05] <intelikey> seems to be.
[03:05] <SHRIKEE> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31443/
[03:05] <SHRIKEE> thas what it looks like
[03:06] <intelikey> yep looks good.
[03:06] <SHRIKEE> ok, backup the old, and replace it?
[03:06] <intelikey> yep
[03:06] <SHRIKEE> that'll be like sudo cp /etc/fstab /etc/fstab.ori, to back up right?
[03:07] <intelikey> right
[03:07] <Jucato> left
[03:07] <Jucato> :P
[03:07] <intelikey> and sudo mv new.fstab /etc/fstab
[03:08] <SHRIKEE> yep
[03:08] <intelikey> chown root /etc/fstab             always think security.
[03:08] <SHRIKEE> good one
[03:08] <Jucato> always think intelikey... paranoia :P
[03:08] <SHRIKEE> ok done
[03:08] <Jucato> j/k
[03:09] <intelikey> Jucato I'M NOT MAD DAMIT !
[03:09] <soulrider> hi everyone!
[03:09] <SHRIKEE> lol
[03:09] <Jucato> hi soulrider
[03:09] <SHRIKEE> intelikey: now what? reboot?
[03:09] <soulrider> hi Jucato
[03:09] <Jucato> reboot! reboot!
[03:09] <Jucato> windows-style! :P
[03:09] <SHRIKEE> shush!
[03:09] <intelikey> SHRIKEE i'm finished with you.  do as you please  :)
[03:09] <SHRIKEE> :o
[03:10] <SHRIKEE> as i please, if this doesnt work my laptop wont boot :P
[03:10] <Jucato> "i'm finished with you". sounds like you just ate him :P
[03:10] <intelikey> SHRIKEE wait
[03:10] <intelikey> lets add auto to that line.
[03:10] <Jucato> SHRIKEE: if you have a Live CD, nothing's impossible :P
[03:10] <SHRIKEE> auto, where
[03:10] <Jucato> why auto? (my swap line in fstab doesn't have one)
[03:10] <intelikey> make "/dev/sda5 none swap sw 0 0"  look like  "/dev/sda5 none swap sw,auto 0 0"
[03:11] <intelikey> Jucato i know.  but it can't hurt anything.
[03:11] <SHRIKEE> mmhm, thats to automount?
[03:11] <intelikey> yes
[03:11] <SHRIKEE> ok
[03:11] <SHRIKEE> wish me luck, im rebooting
[03:12] <intelikey> the default is to automount unless specified 'noauto' but if for some reason the default settings have been overriden.....
[03:15] <SHRIKEE> it works
[03:15] <SHRIKEE> i think
[03:15] <SHRIKEE> the swap is active and stuffs
[03:15] <intelikey> can't be. i purposly told you wrong....
[03:15] <sheers> Eu estou obtendo este erro quando tento activar as drivers da nvidia !
[03:15] <sheers> Error: unable to load nvidia kernel driver! Be sure to have installed
[03:15] <sheers> the nvidia driver for your running kernel.
[03:16] <intelikey> :)
[03:16] <SHRIKEE> lol
[03:16] <sheers> I am getting this error when I try to activate drivers of the nvidia! Error: unable you load nvidia kernel to driver! Be sure you have installed the nvidia driver will be your running kernel.

[03:16] <SHRIKEE> but, intelikey youre not finished yet... i still have a question
[03:16] <SHRIKEE> how could this have hapened
[03:17] <pielgrzym> anyone using beryl here? :)
[03:17] <SHRIKEE> nothing really has changed on my system for all i know
[03:17] <SHRIKEE> and yet it decided to trash teh swap
[03:17] <intelikey> the block id got hosed.  i don't know how.  i have actually never really messed with blkid's
[03:18] <SHRIKEE> hrm
[03:18] <SHRIKEE> sucks
[03:18] <intelikey> it's not really a big deal unless it happens to /
[03:18] <BluesKaj> how do I know the swap is even being used ?
[03:18] <SHRIKEE> sure, but if i know how it happened, the cause, i cuuld prevent it
[03:19] <BluesKaj> ksystemguard?
[03:19] <intelikey> yeah.   but don't ask me to learn that just for this one issue.   if it continues to happen then i'll look into it.
[03:19] <SHRIKEE> kinfocenter
[03:19] <SHRIKEE> then memory
[03:20] <voicu> !webmin
[03:20] <ubotu> webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. Please avoid using it.
[03:20] <voicu> damn
[03:20] <voicu> !admin
[03:20] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about admin - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[03:21] <SHRIKEE> lol
[03:21] <SHRIKEE> webmin--
[03:21] <voicu> is there an alternative?
[03:21] <SHRIKEE> dunno
[03:22] <SHRIKEE> my linux offers one
[03:22] <SHRIKEE> but its custom  build
[03:22] <SHRIKEE> :P
[03:23] <voicu> hmm, i need just something simple that takes care of iptables until i can config it manually
[03:23] <Jucato> guarddog? firestarter? kungfusomething?
[03:23] <SHRIKEE> nano is pretty simple :P
[03:26] <pielgrzym> !pastebin
[03:26] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[03:26] <intelikey> voicu quicktables
[03:27] <intelikey> it's a script, works well.   google knows where it lives.
[03:28] <voicu> ok, thanks
[03:51] <gsuveg> can i sync my phone with kontact via bt ?
[03:55] <Furesho> okay. here's the scoop. i've searched via google and freshmeat and i still can't find a font browser that can browse zip files as well as directories. anybody got any suggestions?
[03:55] <Novise> Hello:) Could someone please help me install thre broadcom 43xx driver??
[03:56] <Jucato> font browser?
[03:58] <Hawkwind> Novise: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=185174
[03:59] <voicu> does ubuntu run the scripts in /etc/init.d only if they have a link in a /etc/rcX.d/ directory?
[03:59] <intelikey> voicu yes
[03:59] <intelikey> voicu see /etc/init.d/rc  for the howto
[04:00] <voicu> well, which runlevel should the iptables script be run in? 5?
[04:01] <intelikey> voicu default is 2
[04:01] <voicu> all right, ok
[04:01] <intelikey> voicu less /etc/inittab
[04:01] <voicu> thanks, quicktables really worked btw
[04:01] <intelikey> yes it does.
[04:04] <Jack1> hi
[04:05] <Jack1> i cannot login to kubuntu anymore, only startx works,if i want to reinstall the xserver it tells me
[04:05] <Jack1> can anyone help?
[04:06] <dennister> g' morning all
[04:06] <gsuveg> Jack1: hmm.
[04:06] <gsuveg> Jack1: on console u can login?
[04:07] <Jack1> gsuveg: yes
[04:07] <gsuveg> only via kdm cant ?
[04:08] <dennister> I have now fixed the audio for my tuner, as far as mplayer goes, anyway...yahoo!
[04:08] <Jack1> gsuveg:  but i can only start a gnome session, and then nautilus wont work
[04:08] <gsuveg> Jack1: weird
[04:08] <Jack1> gsuveg: its the xserver
[04:08] <gsuveg> what you make man?
[04:08] <dennister> it was the cable STB that was the culprit all along :)
[04:08] <Novise> Hey!Could somone help me get WiFi up an running on my system?:)
[04:09] <intelikey> boot the other kernel and try it Jack1
[04:09] <Jack1> gsuveg:  i cannot reinstall it, it says : couldnt open /var/cache/debconf.config/dat
[04:09] <dennister> hi intelikey
[04:09] <Jack1> intelikey: intelikey  u mean the older kernel?
[04:09] <intelikey> dennister
[04:09] <dennister> r u on edgy jack1?
[04:09] <Jack1> or the 386 kernel intelikey
[04:09] <Jack1> yes dennister
[04:10] <Jack1> the login prob is sincce then
[04:10] <dennister> i heard the debconf on edgy wasn't working properly, but i've had no problems with it
[04:10] <Jack1> it also says when i try to reinstall x:
[04:11] <Jack1> refcount is 2, should be 1, fixing
[04:12] <Jack1> ..couldn't open 7var
[04:12] <dennister> Jack1: here's a command that's been working for me with xorg probs: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:12] <Jack1> the "unknwon command" is from irc, not part of the prob
[04:12] <dennister> u can try it; it might work
[04:13] <dennister> can't hurt, anyway
[04:13] <voicu> can I create a link in /etc/rc2.d just like that or do I need to follow some special rules?
[04:13] <Jack1> dennister:  i know, ya, ya i should try
 the "unknwon command" is from irc, <--- we dont see that.  it's onlt on your end.
[04:13] <Jack1> ok..thx intelikey
[04:14] <Jack1> how would i set up , could i?, a second root user?
[04:14] <Jack1> if i could solve the prob that way?
[04:14] <intelikey> a second root jr.   add them to the admin group
[04:14] <n3storm> wenas
[04:15] <intelikey> !root
[04:15] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[04:15] <dennister> intelikey: i solved my no-audio-with-mplayer prob :)
[04:15] <intelikey> :)
[04:15] <dennister> it was the cable box that was the culprit all along
[04:16] <intelikey> ummm hmm
[04:16] <gsuveg> Jack1: as root ?
[04:16] <dennister> when the other tuner's sound didn't work in a fresh install of win mce either, the only common denominator was the cable box...gues windoze is good for something, lol
[04:16] <Jack1> could i bypass my porb with setting up a second user?
[04:17] <Jack1> gsuveg:
[04:17] <Jack1> porb
[04:17] <Jack1> prob
[04:17] <gsuveg> sudo u know
[04:17] <Jack1> ya
[04:17] <Jack1> sure
[04:18] <Bubba_Gump> how do i install kthememanager from a tar.bz2 ?
[04:19] <ehird> is it weird that i appear, er, no to have an ethernet port on my PC?
[04:19] <intelikey> Jack1 try it.   sudo useradd -mg admin newusername
[04:19] <murchadh> jack1: I'd try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg first!
[04:20] <Jack1> definitely thank u intelikey  and murchadh
[04:20] <murchadh> It worked for me after a 6.06 to 6.10 upgrade.
[04:20] <Jack1> tell u soon
[04:21] <intelikey> i still think he's booting a kernel without the correct module support, and thus x is failing...  boot the former kernel and x will work.
[04:21] <wildchild> do I have to manually set up digikam for my canon camera?
[04:21] <wildchild> couse when I go to camera, everything works so slooow
[04:22] <murchadh> intelikey: You may be right, but I tried three previous kernels without success. But the dpkg command sorted it.
[04:23] <intelikey> but you weren't getting to a kdm login screen were you ?
[04:23] <murchadh> I have also a fresh 6.10 install. It installed flawlessly. Upgrading to edgy should be done EXACTLY as described in the FAQs. It is intolerant!
[04:23] <dennister> i gave that suggestion about that dpkg command, 2, have u tried that yet jack1?
[04:24] <intelikey> dennister -:- SignOff Jack1: #kubuntu ("Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 2.0/2006101023] "
[04:24] <Bubba_Gump> how do i install 'Qt' ??
[04:24] <dennister> oh, sorry :) went away for a bit
[04:25] <murchadh> intelikey: Yeah, hang at kdm. Tried gdm from a terminal as root as well. Nearly gave up on it. Yeah I saw your post dennister, nice one! Just re-recomending it to jack1.
[04:25] <dennister> my post? u mean to this channel?
[04:25] <murchadh> I think jack1 is trying it as we chat....
[04:26] <murchadh> dennister: Yeah, moments ago.
[04:26] <intelikey> Bubba_Gump one would think that installing  qt3-qtconfig  would draw in any deps
[04:26] <dennister> k, when i read 'post' i think of the forums
[04:27] <intelikey> messages posted to an irc channel are often called posts
[04:27] <intelikey> "as swift as a post" --job
[04:28] <murchadh> dennister: My bad! I'll catch up with the lingo as we go!
[04:28] <dennister> ty; before i discovered this as a way to get help learning linux, i hadn't chatted on irc, chatrooms, or msn in years
[04:29] <dennister> so i'm still re-learning..had a real problem with the mythtv-users channel
[04:29] <murchadh> dennister: This is the No. 1 way allright.
[04:29] <intelikey> can a ship move if it's fast ?   :)
[04:29] <dennister> i don't think i'll every try to use that channel again...all they can do is complain about how u ask questions
[04:30] <dennister> didn't even see anyone getting any actual help, boy oh boy did i get mad
[04:31] <intelikey> dennister some people are just jerks,  and the rest of you have to put up with us.... :)
[04:31] <dennister> lol...had to go out and get some more smokes to calm down i was shaking...yep
[04:31] <dennister> the people here are more interested in helping i think
[04:31] <intelikey> most of the time.
[04:32] <dennister> and ur not a jerk intelikey :)
[04:32] <murchadh> dennister: Was your problem that required the dpkg-reconfigure command caused by an edgy upgrade? Mine was, but I had a very modified sources.list, so I can't really fault the upgrade team.
[04:32] <Jucato> oh intelikey is definitely a jerk... beef jerky :P
[04:32] <dennister> no, i always tend to go the fresh-install route
[04:32] <dennister> lol...hi Jucato :)
[04:32] <DjDarkman> hy, I`m using the 64 bit version of kubuntu ,and kchekgmail always crashes on start with this error (in the konsole) ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[04:33] <DjDarkman> what could be the could be the reason of this error?
[04:33] <dennister> jucato: i got my audio prob fixed; it was the cable STB box all along :)
[04:33] <dennister> i can't stop crowing, lol
[04:33] <Bubba_Gump> intelikey: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[04:33] <Jucato> oh... isn't that annoying?
[04:34] <murchadh> dennister: Yeah my fresh install was flawless, as have all k/ubuntu installs I've done since 5.04. Sometimes the upgrades need some added care and attention.
[04:34] <intelikey> Bubba_Gump you have build-essential installed ?
[04:34] <Bubba_Gump> intelikey: how can found if i have build-essential installed?
[04:34] <dennister> yep...sound works ok in mplayer now...had to reinstall win mce last night and when the sound for that tuner didn't work either, i knew the STB was the only common denominator
[04:35] <intelikey> Bubba_Gump sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:35] <OsloNorway> Hello:) Could someone help me with getting a Broadcom 4318 wireless network card up and running?
[04:35] <BluesKaj> is there an "Official Edgy Repos" ?
[04:35] <BluesKaj> Sources List
[04:35] <intelikey> !wifi | OsloNorway
[04:35] <ubotu> OsloNorway: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[04:35] <dennister> OsloNorway: in edgy? or dapper?
[04:36] <intelikey> OsloNorway been there ^ yet ?
[04:36] <OsloNorway> Dennister: Dapper!
[04:36] <Bubba_Gump> intelikey: ok... i do now  :)
[04:36] <dennister> ok, u should be able to get it working in dapper
[04:36] <BluesKaj> !Edgy Sources List
[04:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about Edgy Sources List - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:36] <intelikey> Bubba_Gump now try the origenal command that you had issues with.
[04:36] <Blacken> Does anyone know of a .deb package out there for Mono 1.2?
[04:37] <dennister> BluesKaj: if u have edgy installed the official repos will be there
[04:37] <Bubba_Gump> intelikey: checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! < same message
[04:37] <OsloNorway> Dennister: Yeah, I had it running on a Ubuntu system but now I can't get it working..Could u help?
[04:37] <wildchild> why when I connect my canon camera to usb and on desktop appears icon: USB imaging interface and when I click on in and upload images to digikam nothing happens :S can someone help me on that
[04:37] <dennister> no, sorry, i don't have any wifi, so it's not something i've tackled yet...i just read that wifi is a prob with edgy
[04:38] <BluesKaj> I have it dennister, but I'd like to clean it up since there are so many dupes and url sources that don't work
[04:38] <intelikey> Bubba_Gump libqt3-compat-headers - Qt 1.x and 2.x compatibility includes
[04:38] <intelikey> libqt3-headers - Qt3 header files
[04:38] <intelikey> try installing ^
[04:39] <dennister> BluesKaj: good idea to just comment those offending lines out first, in ur sources.list
[04:39] <BluesKaj> I'd jus like to replace my old sources list with a "clean" new one :)
[04:39] <OsloNorway> Intelikey: I've tried out the link, but I didn't get any wiser..Kind of new to Kubuntu!
[04:40] <BluesKaj> dennister, I'm lazy ...I'd like an easier way :)
[04:40] <intelikey> OsloNorway well if you've read the howto you know more about it than me.   maybe jucato can help
[04:40] <Jucato> huh? what?
[04:40] <OsloNorway> Intelikey:Who?:)
[04:40] <intelikey> the networking guroo Jucato the great.
[04:40] <Jucato> sorry, don't know anything about wireless
[04:40] <intelikey> :)
[04:41] <intelikey> you know more than i do.
[04:41] <Jucato> heh since when did I graduate from a networking dumb-ass?
[04:41] <intelikey> of course that doesnt' say much :/
[04:41] <dennister> BluesKaj: ok, here's one i heard sat night at a linux event: just do a search for all the old dapper mentions in ur sources list, and then change them to edgy
[04:41] <Bubba_Gump> intelikey: again, same message
[04:41] <intelikey> Bubba_Gump hmmmm....
[04:42] <BluesKaj> done that dennister, jende showed me that before I upgraded from dapper
[04:42] <BluesKaj> i'l figurte something out
[04:42] <dennister> ok, then i don't understand...
[04:43] <dennister> but i'll leav it to u
[04:43] <weedar> OsloNorway: have you searched ubuntuforums.org ? I believe there are several methods to get your card working, with either ndiswrapper or other ways
[04:44] <intelikey> Bubba_Gump i don't know, unless there is a path descrepency   ubuntu is not exactly an industry standard.....       what exactly are you trying to build ?
[04:44] <BluesKaj> dennister, there were some sources added later due to backports and nonfree sources containing stuff i wanted
[04:44] <Bubba_Gump> intelikey: i installed qt-threaded, now this : checking for KDE... configure: error: in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers
[04:44] <Bubba_Gump> installed.
[04:45] <Bubba_Gump> intelikey: kthememanager
[04:45] <dennister> and u can't remember/tell which ones u don't want anymore? that should be easy,
[04:45] <intelikey> kde headers now.
[04:46] <Bubba_Gump> intelikey: which are the KDE headers ?
[04:47] <intelikey> Bubba_Gump kde-devel  kde-devel-extras
[04:47] <dennister> anyway...back to my mplayer conf clean-ups
[04:48] <dennister> cyas later
[04:48] <weedar> OsloNorway: for example; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=280962&highlight=broadcom+4318 or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=197102&highlight=broadcom+4318
[04:48] <intelikey> !kthememanager
[04:48] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kthememanager - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:50] <martynda> hi, i have a kompare question, every time i put in different files, i get solid red on both files and not the specific changes, anyone have some insight on that? thanks
[04:51] <intelikey> hmmmm have an oops on box 2   power management mubar's X unrecoverable it seems.
[04:51] <Th3_Cr0up13R> asdf
[04:52] <intelikey> jkl;
[04:53] <Bubba_Gump> intelikey: Good - your configure finished. Start make now < :D
[04:54] <intelikey> your'e welcome.
[04:54] <Bubba_Gump> intelikey: thanks you greatly , you're brill :D
[04:54] <intelikey> brill ????   no im root.
[04:54] <Bubba_Gump> heh :)
[04:54] <Bubba_Gump> brill = brilliant ;)
[04:54] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[04:56] <intelikey> !regestor
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regestor - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <intelikey> !regester
[04:56] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about regester - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:56] <warnet> kk
[04:58] <Hawkwind> intelikey: !register
[04:58] <intelikey> rejester  :)
[05:00] <drarem> ..
[05:02] <bkudria> Could someone help me and tell me how to set up a vpn connection to relakks.com ?  https://www.relakks.com/faq/guides/connectionmanual/
[05:04] <gsuveg> Jack1: now?
[05:04] <sanzky> hi, does anyone knows if kdelibs are compiled with daap support?
[05:04] <dart1007> #ubuntu
[05:04] <andreas_> hallo zusammen
[05:05] <andreas_> kennt jemand von euch ein programm das in etwa an dreamweaver hernakommt?
[05:07] <tdn> I have edited /boot/grub/menu.lst, but every time I reboot GRUB is as it was before I edited menu.lst. How do I "apply" my changes in menu.lst?
[05:07] <bomber> are you editing it as root?
[05:08] <Bubba_Gump> SiS graphics cards: can I use my graphics card's full potential?
[05:08] <drarem> kdmwontboot-keyboard-on-pc-is-messed-up..anotherstory-
[05:08] <tdn> Nevermind!
[05:09] <bkudria> tdn: run update-grub
[05:09] <drarem> i-just-upgraded-to-edgy-6.10-boots-into-terminal-tty
[05:09] <tdn> bomber, yes. The problem was that I was editing the "real" config and not the special uncommented one that update-grub reads.
[05:09] <bkudria> drarem: what are you doing?
[05:09] <bomber> ahhh
[05:09] <drarem> spacebar--broken
[05:10] <drarem> due-to-birdseed-dont-ask-lol
[05:10] <Bubba_Gump> !sis
[05:10] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sis - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:11] <drarem> i-upgraded-nvidia-drivers,then-vegastrike-wouldnt-launch
[05:11] <intelikey> man find manpage has really grown sense last i looked...   it's actually more than a --help command redirrected to a file  :)
[05:13] <drarem> bottomline,xserver-isnt-running
[05:15] <Jack1> intelikey: it says when i want to do the x reconfigure: couldn'topen /var/cache/debconf/config/dat
[05:16] <Jack1> when i check the error list at the login screen (kicks me out) it says: mkdtemp:private socket div:permission denied
[05:16] <arriesp> hi
[05:19] <eilker> anyone experienced at establishing ftp server ?
[05:19] <Jack1> sry eilker
[05:20] <Jack1> can anyone help with my prob?
[05:20] <andrepose> Can I ask about setting up a homenetwork?
[05:20] <digilux> hey all
[05:20] <eilker> jack1: your prob?
[05:20] <digilux> csa meta
[05:20] <digilux> :D
[05:20] <eilker> andrepose: just ask, someone helps you
[05:21] <Jack1> i upgraded to edgy, since then i cannot login anymore, just do a startx from comandline; thats why i tried to reconfigure or reinstall xserver neither works unfortunately
[05:21] <Jack1> eilker:
[05:22] <Jack1> enough diskspace login is correct
[05:22] <eilker> jack1: i also had same problem, i just choosed from menu, connection type and choosed kde , solved:)
[05:23] <eilker> jack1: do u get xauth error?
[05:23] <Ace2016> hi all
[05:23] <Jack1> session type u mean?
[05:23] <Ace2016> anyone know a good audio app that can increase the bass of the output?
[05:23] <eilker> jack1: yes exactly
[05:23] <Jack1> eilker: no, ican chosse either and it wont work
[05:23] <Jack1> choose
[05:23] <eilker> jack1:dont you get any error ?
[05:23] <intelikey> Jack1 try running this                                                            sudo apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install $(dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' '\n' | sort -u)
[05:23] <andrepose> Okay I am trying to setup a router on an ubuntu server P 233, with 3 network cards. We have 5 sometimes more computers in our house and I want 1 nic to be plugged into the internet, 1 nic for our vonage and the other one to go to the home network. All routed through the server and giving preference of bandwith especially upload to the vonage thingy...
[05:24] <Jack1> eilker ya, the above
[05:24] <Ace2016> andrepose: it would be so much easier to get a router
[05:24] <Jack1> intelikey thing is i dualboot, so i'd need to write it down..what does it do?
[05:24] <andrepose> I have two but they don't give preference to the vonage phone plug.
[05:25] <intelikey> Jack1 reinstalles broken packages
[05:26] <intelikey> also pulls in any missing dependancies.   but that should be obvious
[05:26] <Jack1> intelikey ok,thx will try.did u read my error messies above?
[05:26] <intelikey> a couple hours ago
[05:26] <eilker> jack1: where is your error msg??
[05:27] <eilker> jack1: i couldnt see it
[05:27] <andrepose> Is this feasible?
[05:27] <Jack1> eilker just scroll up
[05:28] <trappist> andrepose: yes - I couldn't tell you how, but you might google for a linux qos howto
[05:28] <eilker> jack1: may be i logined irc, after your message
[05:28] <intelikey> Jack1 also mentioned making sure that the kernel and restricted modules were correct.  i have seen X fail on restricted modules when they were not needed.
[05:28] <andrepose> okay.   Thank you. I
[05:28] <trappist> andrepose: I just route all my traffic through my telephone adapter and let it handle the qos
[05:28] <Jack1> eilker it says when i want to do the x reconfigure: couldn'topen /var/cache/debconf/config/dat
[05:29] <Jack1> eilker when i check the error list at the login screen (kicks me out) it says: mkdtemp:private socket div:permission denied
[05:29] <andrepose> There is only an input on our telephone adpater?
[05:29] <andrepose> no output...
[05:29] <Jack1> hmm intelikey i just did the usual distupgrade, i haven got a clue with the restricted modules
[05:30] <andrepose> can you get them with two ports?
[05:30] <trappist> andrepose: ah, mine's supplied by my isp, and they like it to be set up the way I have it.  never used vonage.
[05:30] <intelikey> Jack1 is that the exact message ?   "  /var/cache/debconf/config/dat "
[05:30] <murchadh> jack1: Did you put sudo before the dpkg? Just checking?
[05:30] <andrepose> okay.
[05:30] <intelikey> cause it should be " /var/cache/debconf/config.dat "
[05:30] <andrepose> This way I learn more as well though. I like learning by doing...
[05:31] <Jack1> murchadh: tried root and sudo
[05:31] <trappist> andrepose: true :)
[05:31] <andrepose> ;)
[05:31] <andrepose> I have another question.
[05:31] <Jack1> intelikey: hmm i took it that way down, but probably my mistake..what does it mean?
[05:32] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Good morning
[05:32] <OsloNorway> Hello! I'm trying to install my Broadcom 4318 wireless network card, but I can't get it working!Could someone help me?
[05:32] <DaSkreech> !wireless
[05:32] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:32] <OsloNorway> Ubotu: I've tried it but I need some assistance....
[05:32] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about I've tried it but I need some assistance.... - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:32] <intelikey> Jack1 means you may have to   mv /var/cache/debconf/config.dat-old /var/cache/debconf/config.dat        and run the above command i gave you.
[05:32] <trappist> OsloNorway: ubotu is a bot
[05:33] <OsloNorway> Haha
[05:33] <andrepose> What do I all need to have a ubuntu server setup as a router.  I know I need dhcp ip masquerading qos... firewall...  I have 3 nics
[05:33] <andrepose> ?
[05:33] <nikkiana> morning DaSkreech
[05:33] <DaSkreech> Can I apt-get qt4.2?
[05:33] <andrepose> I installed webmin to help.
[05:33] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: How are you?
[05:33] <trappist> andrepose: you probably want to install iptables and iproute2.  that should give you everything you need for advanced routing.
[05:34] <DaSkreech> OsloNorway: What do you need help with
[05:34] <DaSkreech> (disclaimer: I'm the worst person to ask)
[05:34] <intelikey> Jack1 make sure you get the slashes and dots correct.   i'll repost.
[05:34] <trappist> DaSkreech: no, I think I have you beat there
[05:34] <intelikey>   sudo apt-get -u --reinstall --fix-missing install $(dpkg -S LC_MESSAGES | cut -d: -f1 | tr ', ' '\n' | sort -u)
[05:34] <nikkiana> DaSkreech: tired
[05:35] <DaSkreech> nikkiana: Same boat!!
[05:35] <ubuntu> trke bilen varm
[05:35] <ubuntu> :)
[05:35] <eilker> ubuntu:)
[05:35] <andrepose> now comes the fun stuff.... Configuring, any good howtos or tutorials anyone know that could help?
[05:36] <ubuntu> efendim eilker
[05:36] <ubuntu> :)
[05:36] <Jack1> intelikey:  is ther ea space after messages?
[05:36] <trappist> Jack1: don't forget to capitalize LC_MESSAGES - but the space is optional
[05:37] <intelikey> Jack1 yes  but that MESSAGES it is case sensitive.
[05:38] <trappist> andrepose: configuring what?
[05:38] <eilker> intelikey: may reconfiguring debconf be solution for jack1 ?
[05:39] <intelikey> eilker that should happen in that command as well as reconfiguring any other broken package/s
[05:39] <Jack1> thx u guys
[05:39] <andrepose> I just need help configuring dhcp, for advanced routing. Would you know any good sites that could help?
[05:40] <trappist> andrepose: for dhcpd, see /etc/dhcpd.conf for examples and `man dhcpd.conf` for more info.  google I'm sure also has more info, but it's pretty figure-out-able from the conf file examples
[05:40] <andrepose> oh okay.
[05:40] <andrepose> thanks so much. see ya later.
[05:40] <trappist> andrepose: for advanced routing, google for the 'lartc' howto (Linux Advanced Routing and Traffic Control)
[05:40] <intelikey> andrepose i know nothing about networking but i do know that google has a linux specific search that you could check.    http://google.com/linux
[05:40] <andrepose> great that helps so much.
[05:40] <eilker> intelikey: r u  experienced at establishing ftp server ?
[05:41] <intelikey> eilker no   ssh is about the extent of my networking exp.
[05:41] <eilker> i see
[05:41] <eilker> anyone experienced at establishing ftp server ?
[05:42] <intelikey> !ftpd
[05:42] <ubotu> FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd
[05:42] <Bubba_Gump> sis video is very slow, any fixes?
[05:42] <eilker> intelikey: i installed vsftd, but no acces over internet
[05:43] <intelikey> eilker i'm sorry but it would be the blind leading the deaf if i try to help you there.
[05:43] <trappist> andrepose: there's also a #lartc channel on irc.oftc.net
[05:43] <eilker> intelikey: :)) okay
[05:45] <Omnifrog> why does #runlevel return N 2 when the default is 5?
[05:46] <intelikey> Omnifrog grep initdefault /etc/inittab
[05:47] <OsloNorway> Anyone with any experience installing broadcom 4318 wifi card?
[05:47] <Omnifrog> intelikey, inittab does say 5 is the default
[05:47] <intelikey> Omnifrog when did you set the default to 5 ?
[05:47] <Omnifrog> i didn't set it, thats just what it says
[05:47] <intelikey> did you run   grep initdefault /etc/inittab  ??
[05:49] <intelikey> Omnifrog besides on "default" *buntu 2-5 are all ==
[05:49] <Omnifrog> # locate inittab
[05:49] <Omnifrog> /mnt/data/etc/inittab
[05:49] <Omnifrog> whats it doing in /mnt ?
[05:49] <intelikey> it's not.  not the one the system is using.
[05:50] <Gianuti> C' qualcuno che parla italiano qui dentro??
[05:50] <Omnifrog> ok, im confused now
[05:50] <Gianuti> C' qualcuno che parla italiano qui dentro??
[05:50] <intelikey> Omnifrog that's edgy ?
[05:50] <Omnifrog> yes
[05:50] <intelikey> edgy is probably not even using an inittab
[05:50] <louismeier> hi
[05:51] <intelikey> it's not init it's upstart
[05:51] <Omnifrog> oh, i guess i better read up on that then
[05:52] <MidMark> I have a question: why pidof always return the process id? In the man page it says that it return 0 or 1 depends if a process is found or not
[05:52] <intelikey> MidMark that's error code 0 or 1  not stdout
[05:52] <intelikey> if no process is found stdout is
[05:53] <intelikey> that's right blank
[05:53] <MidMark> intelikey: so I have to check in stderr
[05:53] <MidMark> ?
[05:53] <intelikey> MidMark pidof bob && echo yes || echo no
[05:53] <intelikey> test that ^
[05:54] <Gianuti> Nessuno che parli italiano??
[05:54] <MidMark> !it
[05:54] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:54] <intelikey> pidof bash && echo yes || echo no
[05:54] <DaSkreech> intelikey: does Upstart have run levels?
[05:54] <Gianuti> Grazie mille
[05:54] <intelikey> DaSkreech idk i don't have it on the LTS
[05:55] <MidMark> intelikey: so why this script never exit from the while? while pidof -x $BINARY &>/dev/null; do sleep 1; done
[05:55] <MidMark> where binary is the name of the process
[05:56] <intelikey> MidMark what is  $BINARY  set to ?
[05:56] <MidMark> to the process name
[05:56] <arriesp> xao gent
[05:57] <intelikey> put an echo $BINARY      just above that line and run it.   see if it helps you.
[05:57] <^^> ciao, posso chiedere una info riguardo i driver ATI e edgy...
[05:57] <ubuntu> trke konumasn bilen biri yok mu
[05:57] <BluesKaj> !tk
[05:57] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:57] <BluesKaj> !tu
[05:58] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about tu - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[05:58] <BluesKaj> heh
[05:58] <[GuS] > re
[05:58] <intelikey> MidMark most of the time i find that the problem with a script is the writer     ;/
[05:59] <ROBOd2> hello
[05:59] <ROBOd2> i have ubuntu edgy, in french
[05:59] <MidMark> intelikey: this is the problem in klik, that doesn't exit in Edgy, but yes in Dapper and all distros
[05:59] <ROBOd2> quanta is not in french
[05:59] <ROBOd2> and i installed the kde french package support
[06:00] <intelikey> MidMark if it's a bug  then report it.
[06:00] <intelikey> !bug
[06:00] <ubotu> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug report at: http://bugs.ubuntu.com/  -  Bugs in/wishes for the bots can be filed at http://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-bots
[06:00] <BluesKaj> ^^ fglrx driver works with ATI cards
[06:00] <^^> Hi all.... pse may I have some suggestions in order to fix this issue...with my ATI drivers --->fglX11AllocateManagedSurface: __FGLTexMgrAllocMem failed!!
[06:01] <fribuntu> Hi all
[06:01] <intelikey> MidMark and that would be one of anti-most of the time errors  :)
[06:01] <MidMark> intelikey: just done, no idea for now
[06:01] <Omnifrog> ah, i see intelikey , there is no /etc/inittab in fresh edgy installs. but whats this /mnt/data/ tree all about?
[06:01] <BluesKaj> ^^ , use the fglrx driver for ATI
[06:01] <MidMark> intelikey: $BINARY has the absolute path of the executable
[06:01] <MidMark> so there is another problem
[06:01] <MidMark> while never ends
[06:02] <intelikey> MidMark no.    if an app is not working propperly,   then don't use it.     pgrep may supply an alternative there.
[06:03] <^Pippo^> yepp, but I have fglrx installed ....
[06:03] <kendo> Hi all
[06:03] <MidMark> intelikey: we are just searching for the problem, if you have skills then help us
[06:03] <MidMark> also is strange why in dapper works and in Edgy not
[06:03] <kendo> i need HELP can anyone assist?
[06:03] <BluesKaj> ^Pippo^ , what's the problem ?
[06:04] <^Pippo^> fglX11AllocateManagedSurface: __FGLTexMgrAllocMem failed!!
[06:04] <MidMark> !ask
[06:04] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[06:04] <^Pippo^> this is my problem...
[06:04] <BluesKaj> kendo,  ask yor question , if someone lnows , he/she will answer
[06:04] <trappist> MidMark: what is the & for
[06:04] <intelikey> MidMark yeah bugs are usually introduced in a "new" version.
[06:04] <kendo> i trying to install a program to download mp3 and movieis how do i do it new to linux?
[06:05] <MidMark> trappist: >& /dev/null to not produce output in the shell
[06:05] <trappist> MidMark: you don't need the & to redirect output to /dev/null - just the >
[06:05] <trappist> MidMark: also, that shouldn't quit the loop as long as $BINARY is running
[06:05] <intelikey> MidMark you are thinking of 2>&1
[06:06] <BluesKaj> kendo, amule or ktorrent will do that for you ...ktorrent is probably already installed
[06:06] <intelikey> tying stderr to stdout
[06:06] <kendo> blueskaj can u help ???
[06:06] <kendo> keep stalling when downloading
[06:06] <BluesKaj> ktorrent is the K-menu/internet
[06:07] <BluesKaj> what client?
[06:07] <^Pippo^> >BluesKay> when I launch a game this message  appers in the shellconsole---> fglX11AllocateManagedSurface: __FGLTexMgrAllocMem failed!!
[06:07] <kendo> pirate bay
[06:07] <kendo> ktorrent
[06:07] <BluesKaj> are you using a router to connect to the internet ?
[06:08] <BluesKaj> kendo
[06:08] <kendo> direct connect via broadband
[06:08] <MidMark> trappist: yes seems this the problem
[06:08] <intelikey> seems that >& may work the same as adding 2>&1
[06:08] <MidMark> only putted the > and it seems to work
[06:08] <intelikey> MidMark you've been playing in #bash havent you ?
[06:08] <intelikey> :)
[06:09] <DaSkreech> Hi kendo
[06:09] <kendo> hi daskreech
[06:09] <MidMark> intelikey: no
[06:09] <^Pippo^> please BluesKay, haven't you got any suggestion about this problem ? :-)
[06:09] <intelikey> MidMark it seems that >& will dirrect all output including exit codes   that's why it was hanging
[06:10] <MidMark> intelikey: great! thanx
[06:10] <trappist> intelikey: I'll have to remember that one :)
[06:10] <trappist> iirc in the command you pasted, you had &> not >&
[06:10] <kendo> daskreech can i use limewire or other programms that i used in win xp or does it need to be linux?
[06:11] <BluesKaj> ^Pippo^, sorry , my only suggestion is to reinstall the drivers...otherwise it's beyond me
[06:11] <DaSkreech> !limewire
[06:11] <ubotu> limewire is a popular P2P client running on the Gnutella network. To get it running, install !java first, then download Limewire from http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and finally run runLime.sh. Consider !FrostWire as an alternative.
[06:11] <DaSkreech> kendo: read up :)
[06:11] <trappist> kendo: limewire is java, so it should run anywhere
[06:11] <kendo> cheers will try that
[06:11] <intelikey> also seems that the actual use of >& changed three times in the last 4 releases of bash   lol
[06:11] <BluesKaj> as is azureus bit torrent client...much better
[06:12] <intelikey> trappist might be a good idea to dis-remember that until they settel on what it should do
 ok, thanks, I'll try...but I know ATI cards not supperted 100% with kubuntu ...isn't it... :-/
[06:12] <trappist> intelikey: heh
[06:12] <Omnifrog> azureus is ok
[06:13] <Omnifrog> it's a pig though
[06:13] <BluesKaj> ^Pippo^, my ATI card runs fine on the fglrx driver and it's just an elcheapo onboard one
[06:13] <BluesKaj> <---- not a gamer tho
[06:14] <DaSkreech> intelikey: What is it now
 oh, it's fine.... any sugg about which driver is better... proprietary .run or ...?
[06:14] <BluesKaj> yeah, Omnifrog , it's ahog but i like it's stability
[06:15] <Omnifrog> true
[06:15] <BluesKaj> ^Pippo^, ATI Radeon fglrx
[06:15] <MidMark> intelikey: thanx and also to trappist
[06:16] <intelikey> DaSkreech latest all output except exit codes
 ooookey !!! thanks a lot !  Bye :-)
[06:16] <intelikey> DaSkreech that's probably where it should stay.
[06:16] <BluesKaj> ^Pippo^, , hope it works for ya :)
[06:16] <scheuri> hi all....I have a problem with adept/synpatic/aptitude...it says that there is already something using the database...seems there is a lock file after the crash I had...how to get rid of it?
[06:17] <Omnifrog> im not sure this upstart thing is such a great idea
[06:17] <BluesKaj> reboot , the sudo apt-get update
[06:17] <intelikey> Omnifrog hehhe   :)
[06:17] <BluesKaj> then
[06:18] <DaSkreech> Omnifrog: Why?
[06:18] <intelikey> Omnifrog what particular have you found ?
[06:18] <Omnifrog> well, for one, it doesnt work the way /usr/share/doc/upstart/README.Debian.gz says it should
[06:19] <intelikey> not a surprise there.  it's not debian it's ubuntu   and there is a differance...
[06:19] <Omnifrog> it says telinit still works as usual but it doesnt
[06:19] <intelikey> Omnifrog is there a script /bin/init ?
[06:20] <murchadh> BluesKaj: Is the reboot neccessary?
[06:20] <Bubba_Gump> what is the command for restarting KDE ..>
[06:20] <Omnifrog> no /bin/init
[06:20] <trappist> Bubba_Gump: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[06:20] <trappist> Omnifrog: init has been replaced by upstart in edgy
[06:20] <intelikey> Bubba_Gump sudo /etc/init.d/   he out typed me.....
[06:20] <Bubba_Gump> trappist: thanks :)
[06:21] <Omnifrog> trappist, yaim tryin to sort out how this works
[06:21] <Omnifrog> or doesn't work
[06:21] <BluesKaj> well, end current session , but I fear there may be some broken pkgs, murchadh
[06:22] <|WAL|> anyone know where I can get the linux kernel headers for 2.6.15-27?
[06:22] <BluesKaj> !kernel
[06:22] <ubotu> kernel is the core of the Ubuntu Operating System (named 'Linux') - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel.  You shouldn't have to compile one, but if you're convinced you do, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild
[06:22] <|WAL|> I'm no n00b
[06:23] <|WAL|> need it to compile vmware
[06:23] <Omnifrog> telinit only works for runlevel 1 and 6. running the runlevel command says im in runllevel 2
[06:23] <murchadh> BluesKaj: Cheers! That command you posted usually fixes it for me, although there have been a couple of times I've had to remove a lock file by hand!
[06:23] <Th3_Cr0up13R> what is rpcbind?
[06:23] <BluesKaj> fine |WAL| , go for it
[06:24] <Omnifrog> i guess they did say it was gonna be "egdy". can't say they didn't warn us
[06:25] <BluesKaj> yes murchadh, locked files can be dangerous ...had to replce my whole repos once after using automatix ...but that was before i knew better
[06:25] <DaSkreech> Well after cutting us with that wit it's just going to be Fiesty :-(
[06:25] <BluesKaj> :)
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Then grunty :)
[06:27] <BluesKaj> how long DaSkreech ?
[06:28] <BluesKaj> for feisty
[06:28] <ecadre> *is back in KDE*
[06:28] <ecadre> oops, wrong room :-)
[06:28] <DaSkreech> BluesKaj: Sorry?
[06:28] <DaSkreech> ecadre: That's ok We like KDE here
[06:29] <DaSkreech> last time I checked
[06:29] <trappist> |WAL|: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:29] <ecadre> I know
[06:29] <BluesKaj> Feisty fawn
[06:29] <apokryphos> BluesKaj: April
[06:29] <ROBOd2> which package do i need to get quanta in french?
[06:29] <_nixternal> DISTRIB_RELEASE=7.04
[06:29] <BluesKaj> Ubuntu founder Mark Shuttleworth has announced that the next version of Ubuntu Linux, to be released on 19 April 2007, will be named Feisty Fawn.
[06:29] <_nixternal> oops, wrong channel ;)
[06:30] <murchadh> BluesKaj: Yeah, I know what you mean. I had that. I also had problems with a 6.06 upgrade that I only noticed after a reboot, which was so long after the update that I didn't relate the two.
[06:30] <_nixternal> im running feisty right now
[06:30] <BluesKaj> _nixternal, so far so good ?
[06:30] <_nixternal> it is edgy ;)
[06:31] <_nixternal> there were a ton of updates, but nothing major just yet
[06:31] <_nixternal> Sysinfo for 'CaboWabo': Linux 2.6.17-10-generic running KDE 3.5.5, CPU: AMDAthlonprocessor at 1400 MHz (2804 bogomips), , RAM: 326/503MB, 87 proc's, 15.46min up
[06:31] <_nixternal> still using the same kernel
[06:31] <_nixternal> which i thought got updated
[06:31] <murchadh> BluesKaj: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root sorted it, so I now have a clean install on another partition, but I'm back using my old upgraded system again!
[06:32] <LjL> _nixternal: have a clue if, by any chance, the feisty package of kxdocker isn't broken?
[06:32] <_nixternal> LjL: it would be the same package that is in edgy im sure
[06:33] <_nixternal> feisty is nothing more than and upgraded toolchain right now
[06:33] <nixternal> k
[06:33] <LjL> and one that crashes apparently :P
[06:33] <LjL> ah no you're still here ;)
[06:33] <_pyrooo_> can anyone here please help me in installing easyubuntu? i just can't get it working.
[06:34] <LjL> !easyubuntu
[06:34] <ubotu> easyubuntu is easyubuntu is a script that automates installation of some items. Use at your own risk. See http://easyubuntu.freecontrib.org/  -  For help and or discussions about EasyUbuntu please join #easyubuntu
[06:34] <nixternal> hehe
[06:34] <nixternal> for some reason the dist-upgrade to edgy didn't upgrade the kernel
[06:34] <_pyrooo_> i already tried that, i've followed the instructions and it doesn't seem to work
[06:34] <BluesKaj> murchadh, a bulldozer approach ...dunno if reconfigging xserver was necessary ...not that well versed in linux yet ...still a relative noob
[06:35] <BluesKaj> <---still a relative noob
[06:35] <_pyrooo_> anyone/
[06:35] <apokryphos> BluesKaj: it's worth taking some time to look through the FAQ (as listed in the channel topic) the wiki and the official documentation
[06:36] <Omnifrog> ah ha! so upstart is putting the system in runlevel 2 from the script /etc/event.d/rc-default
[06:36] <Th3_Cr0up13R> how do i kill rpcbind
[06:36] <Th3_Cr0up13R> i tried killall rpcbind
[06:36] <Th3_Cr0up13R> its not under the ps programs
[06:36] <Th3_Cr0up13R> but its still there
[06:36] <|WAL|> trappist: the problem is the headers in question aren't in the repositories (or the ones I have)
[06:37] <Th3_Cr0up13R> need to kill it somehow
[06:37] <smaggard> try ps ax
[06:37] <trappist> |WAL|: could be you need to update your kernel first, so you have a kernel that matches the available headers
[06:37] <|WAL|> I already have the kernel in question
[06:38] <trappist> Th3_Cr0up13R: sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server stop; sudo /etc/init.d/nfs-common stop
[06:38] <Omnifrog> Th3_Cr0up13R, look for it with lsof | grep string
[06:38] <trappist> |WAL|: the matching kernel headers should be in the repos
[06:38] <smaggard> or ps ax | grep rpc
[06:38] <|WAL|> trappist: thought so too, they're not there though
[06:39] <smaggard> man im bored
[06:39] <OsloNorway> DaSkreech: I need to get my Broadcom 4318 card to work...And I've been trying all day...I'm converting back to windoze at any time now...
[06:40] <trappist> |WAL|: what does uname -r say
[06:41] <|WAL|> 2.6.15-27-386
[06:41] <trappist> you're on dapper?
[06:41] <|WAL|> yes
[06:41] <trappist> lemme see if I have a dapper box to look on...
[06:41] <|WAL|> trappist: thanks
[06:42] <trappist> |WAL|: mine is amd64, and these packages will be installed: linux-headers-2.6.15-27 linux-headers-2.6.15-27-amd64-generic
[06:43] <|WAL|> trappist: what apt-get command did you use?
[06:43] <trappist> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[06:44] <|WAL|> trappist: E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.15-27-386
[06:44] <|WAL|> what repositories do you have?
[06:45] <trappist> |WAL|: these come from dapper-security/main
[06:45] <trym_> is there a way to get a kubuntu distro on an usb stick and boot it (and be able to make changes) ?
[06:46] <|WAL|> trappist: should this two cover it
[06:46] <|WAL|> trappist: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse main updates security
[06:46] <ubuntu> alguien de todos me puede ayudar
[06:46] <|WAL|> trappist: deb-src http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper universe multiverse main updates security
[06:47] <trappist> |WAL|: nope.  copy those lines, replacing 'dapper' with 'dapper-security'
[06:47] <ubuntu> solo que anoche fpuse en mi maquina windows y perdi el punto de inicio de ubunu
[06:47] <[Relic] > anyone good with nvida stuff?
[06:47] <|WAL|> trappist: great, I'll try that and let you know, thanks
[06:47] <trappist> |WAL|: without 'updates' and 'security' at the end
[06:47] <ubuntu> y no se como volver a ponerlo otra vez
[06:47] <|WAL|> trappist: ok
[06:47] <BluesKaj> !pt
[06:47] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[06:47] <BluesKaj> !es
[06:47] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:47] <Bubba_Gump> hello again :)
[06:48] <Bubba_Gump> how do i clear the files that adept downloads ?
[06:48] <trappist> Bubba_Gump: sudo apt-get clean
[06:48] <Bubba_Gump> trappist: thanks :)
[06:49] <LjL> trym_: i don't know, but i've found this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB - this explains how to boot an USB-installed Ubuntu on a computer that doesn't support booting from USB devices. so i assume *installing* it on an USB device in the first place should be possible, and possibly so easy that you don't need to do anything special (since i haven't found any reference to it ;)
[06:49] <trym_> cool.. thanks :)
[06:50] <ubuntu> comom o reinstalo el grup
[06:50] <ubuntu> alguien me ayuda
[06:50] <LjL> !es | ubuntu
[06:50] <ubotu> ubuntu: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[06:50] <murchadh> Bubba_Gump: sudo apt-get autoclean will actually remove the downloaded files to free up disk space, if that's what you mean!
[06:51] <BluesKaj> LjL, he didn't get the hint the first time :)
[06:51] <Bubba_Gump> aye :)
[06:51] <Bubba_Gump> thanks dude :)
[06:51] <murchadh> Bubba_Gump: You can back them up with something like -- sudo tar zcvf /DATA/apt.tgz /etc/apt /var/lib/apt /var/cache/apt -- first!
[06:52] <BluesKaj> what DL'd files are you referring to , Bubba_Gump?
[06:53] <Bubba_Gump> BluesKaj: quite a lot
[06:53] <Bubba_Gump> BluesKaj: i'm looking for a way to clean them out once they've been installed in
[06:54] <|WAL|> trappist: that looks like it's gonna do it, thanks for your help, as I side note.. are the edgy security repositories in the same place 'cept changing "dapper" to "edgy"?
[06:55] <BluesKaj> I have several programs that I'l prolly never use cuz I'm up to 27G on my ext partition ...so i have no idea where all this stuff came from
[06:55] <|WAL|> trappist: ex: deb http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ edgy-security universe multiverse main
[06:56] <RANDY> wenas
[06:56] <trappist> |WAL|: yes
[06:56] <|WAL|> trappist: thanks alot, cya
[06:57] <eilker> anyone experienced in ftp server ?
[06:58] <yago> hola?
[06:58] <RANDY> ola
[06:58] <LjL> BluesKaj, if he doesn't get it the second time, perhaps
[06:59] <BluesKaj> LjL, :)
[06:59] <LjL> BluesKaj: (whoops nevermind, that was a message i'd half-typed and then decided not to send, but now i pressed enter by mistake =)
[06:59] <LjL> though you can still get the meaning i suppose ;)
[06:59] <BluesKaj> NP
[07:01] <kendo> daskreech
[07:01] <eilker> anyone experienced in ftp server ?
[07:01] <BluesKaj> I have all these program files that won't use but I'm fearful of deleting them , due to the shared dependency issue, What should i do ?
[07:02] <kendo> DASKREECH U THERE?
[07:02] <LjL> !caps | kendo
[07:02] <ubotu> kendo: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.
[07:02] <kendo> sorry ppl
[07:02] <gsuveg> eilker: ask
[07:03] <[Relic] > error	Failed to initialize GLX extension (NVIDIA X driver not found)    <--   Xorg log  ::::    when I try to glx enable it tells me xorg.conf has been modified	 and to change nv to nviidia in the xorg.conf or verify the md5 checksums ,  is there a workable fix or should I just reinstall?
[07:03] <LjL> BluesKaj: shared dependency?
[07:04] <LjL> [Relic] , i believe that error message is quite informative, why don't you try to do what it suggests?
[07:04] <[Relic] > how do I restart xserver/xorg?
[07:04] <_pyrooo_> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[07:04] <BluesKaj> don't certain programs share lib/files and if one removes the unwanted program the libfile is also removed ?
[07:05] <_pyrooo_> gedit doesn't work in kubuntu - why?
[07:05] <eilker> gsuveg: i installed vsftpd, and i followed all instruction in server guide, and now shouldnt i access via ftp://myip ?
[07:05] <[Relic] > if I reboot I think it will lock me out again like last few times I tried it
[07:05] <gsuveg> eilker: from localhost ?
[07:05] <eilker> gsuveg: yes
[07:06] <gsuveg> eilker: works ?
[07:06] <eilker> gsuveg: nope...
[07:06] <gsuveg> it run?
[07:06] <eilker> gsuveg: yes it is running
[07:07] <gsuveg> eilker: no msg
[07:08] <Bubba_Gump> ooh i've learning something today -
[07:08] <Bubba_Gump> always close Ktorrent before restarting KDE
[07:08] <gsuveg> eilker: you are ignored.
[07:08] <eilker> gsuveg: ok i just gave to you my ftp, no problem
[07:08] <kendo> pplhow do i register a nickname so i can talk direct to ppl?
[07:08] <eilker> gsuveg: ??
[07:09] <gsuveg> eilker: no msg
[07:09] <gsuveg> u use firewall ?
[07:09] <murchadh> BluesKaj: Use adept to remove the programs/packages, and check exactly what it's going to remove before you hit apply. I've removed the kde desktop before by pressing apply too hastily.
[07:09] <DaSkreech> OsloNorway: Where have you tried?
[07:09] <DaSkreech> kendo: I am now
[07:09] <eilker> gsuveg: nope
[07:09] <kendo> i daskreech
[07:09] <gsuveg> errorlog ?
[07:10] <eilker> gsuveg: how can i see it? newbie here
[07:10] <kendo> daskreech how do i reg a nick so i can tlk direct ?
[07:10] <gsuveg> eilker: in /var/log
[07:10] <eilker> kendo:/msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>
[07:10] <DaSkreech> !register
[07:10] <ubotu> Information about registering your Freenode nick is at http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-userregistration
[07:12] <eilker> gsuveg: in /var/log  i cant see a file releated with ftp or vsftpd....
[07:12] <gsuveg> messages?
[07:12] <gsuveg> i dont use vsftp
[07:12] <eilker> gsuveg: oh ok
[07:12] <eilker> gsuveg: what do u use? i can try yours too
[07:13] <gsuveg> eilker: on freebsd ;)
[07:14] <eilker> gsuveg: ohh i see:) by the way i have this in var/log  "Nov 13 19:40:10 eilker gconfd (eilker-5343): Resolved address "xml:readonly:/var/lib/gconf/defaults" to a read-only configuration source at position 4" is this releated with ftp ?
[07:14] <gsuveg> no
[07:15] <eilker> gsuveg: what i wanna learn is, after installing vsftpd, will people able to access to my ftp via ftp://myip    ?
[07:16] <gsuveg> eilker: google your friend
[07:16] <eilker> gsuveg: by the way i already installed it...
[07:16] <eilker> gsuveg: ok thanx
[07:17] <DaSkreech> kendo: What's the problem? :)
[07:17] <gsuveg> eilker: from this information, what you give me, impossible to give support
[07:18] <eilker> gsuveg: friend forget about my problem, this is a general question, what i wanna learn is, after installing vsftpd, will people able to access to my ftp via ftp://myip    ?
[07:18] <gsuveg> you need config it
[07:19] <eilker> gsuveg: you mean vsftpd.conf? i configured it...wanna see it? i can pastebin
[07:19] <gsuveg> sry i havent to much time
[07:20] <eilker> gsuveg: ok thanx for your interest
[07:23] <DaSkreech> Drat
[07:23] <DaSkreech>  Gotta run
[07:27] <eilker> people i can access to my ftp server from console, but i cant access it from browser any ideas?
[07:33] <fribuntu> How do I disable the system beep and switch to "visual bell" under kubuntu?
[07:35] <__osh__> fribuntu: settings -> alarm -> visual bell (or something)
[07:35] <__osh__> fribuntu: you're talking about the "konsole" right?
[07:37] <fribuntu> __osh__: Well, konsole and everywhere else
[07:37] <fribuntu> __osh__: I thought there was a global setting for that.
[07:37] <fribuntu> __osh__: But I cannot find it.
[07:38] <__osh__> fribuntu: might be. I don't know. I've only changed the konsole since it's only there it'll bother me.
[07:38] <fribuntu> __osh__: ok, I changed it there and hope for the best :)
[07:38] <fribuntu> __osh__: Thanks!
[07:39] <__osh__> fribuntu: good luck
[07:39] <wilman> whooops i excidantly installed the wrong driver for my video card
[07:40] <wilman> can anyone say me how to browse the internet in console?
[07:40] <tsdgeos> links
[07:40] <tsdgeos> lynx
[07:40] <k3ndo01> hi all how do i install java and other programms? pls help
[07:40] <wilman> links?
[07:40] <wilman> lynx
[07:40] <wilman> ok
[07:41] <wilman> is that a program
[07:41] <wilman> how to browse in bash?
[07:41] <tsdgeos> both are console browsers
[07:41] <wilman> they are?
[07:41] <wilman> but they arent installed
[07:41] <wilman> how to instal?
[07:41] <wilman> sudo apt-get ......
[07:41] <fribuntu> wilman: sudo apt-get install lynx
[07:41] <wilman> ok
[07:41] <wilman> thx
[07:42] <ejubnuu> hi, i have a problem with konversation, ..i changed my charset to iso8859-15 and now my euro symbol look like this --  --, any ideas?
[07:42] <k3ndo01> ace u there ???
[07:42] <tsdgeos> change charset back?
[07:42] <ejubnuu> yeah, but i am just in german channels, ..they dont allow utf8
[07:43] <heinkel_111> hmm yes
[07:43] <heinkel_111> here is a workaround ;-)
[07:44] <heinkel_111> copy this text and paste it when you need the euro sign: EUROS
[07:44] <heinkel_111> :P
[07:44] <heinkel_111> sorry, i know it was a bad one :)
[07:45] <fribuntu> ejubnuu: You can use the three letter code EUR :)
[07:45] <ejubnuu> is it a problem with konversation or kde?
[07:46] <heinkel_111> I think it must be with the code
[07:46] <heinkel_111> if i am not mistaken
[07:46] <k3ndo01> can anyone help me please new to linix????
[07:46] <wilman> what is a program to use msn in console?
[07:47] <heinkel_111> iso8859-15 isn't that same as  iso8859-1 , but with support for euro sign?
[07:47] <slow-motion> hallo
[07:47] <k3ndo01> HELP pls
[07:48] <JonJ> k3ndo01: What's your problem?
[07:48] <neoatzion> re all
[07:48] <ejubnuu> uhm, i tried iso8859-1, ..but its the same problem, ...i think -15 is for the german letters   u
[07:48] <k3ndo01> hi jonj can u tell me how to download java and how to install it pls
[07:48] <heinkel_111> German: de_DE.ISO8859-1 de_DE.ISO8859-15  de_DE.UTF-8
[07:48] <ejubnuu> http://tmsnc.sourceforge.net/index.html text-based msn client
[07:49] <darkx> hi
[07:49] <fribuntu> k3ndo01: sudo apt-get install sun-java5-bin
[07:49] <darkx> i have a little bit of problem.. can somone help me.. :)
[07:49] <JonJ> k3ndo01: Did you look at ubuntuguide.com? It gives you a rather thourough guide on how to install extra stuff, like windows codecs, java and other things
[07:49] <fribuntu> darkx: Which is?
[07:50] <darkx> when my kubuntu starts
[07:50] <k3ndo01> jonj not yet will try that and see if that helps if not can i get back too u ?
[07:50] <darkx> i get checking file systems..
[07:50] <JonJ> Yeah, sure
[07:50] <k3ndo01> cheers jonj
[07:50] <darkx> if i don't control + c ctrl + d
[07:50] <darkx> it just freezes up..
[07:50] <fdoving> eilker: hi, i can't wait to hear the solution. what was it?
[07:50] <wilman> hey does anyone know how i can look up my driver details?
[07:50] <darkx> when i update to eggy the problem remains
[07:50] <ejubnuu> de_DE.utf-8 is different as normal utf8?
[07:50] <fribuntu> darkx: maybe you did not shut down properly the last time? Let it do it's job ...
[07:51] <darkx> it dose that every time it starts
[07:51] <fribuntu> darkx: Well, because you never let it finish perhaps?
[07:51] <xwolf-> i keep getting a "Sound server fatal error: cpu overload, aborting" message dialog
[07:51] <darkx> lol.. it's just instaled...
[07:51] <fribuntu> darkx: ok, can you paste the exact error?
[07:52] <xwolf-> title "Error - message from aRts".
[07:52] <darkx> it dosen't show one..
[07:52] <wilman> hmm
[07:52] <darkx> just freezes up..
[07:52] <wilman> where can i get the list of aps which i can install?
[07:52] <wilman> like nvidia drivers?
[07:52] <fribuntu> darkx: What if you boot into a console environment?
[07:53] <darkx> i tryed that..
[07:53] <fribuntu> wilman: adpet? Aptitude? There are many tools.
[07:53] <darkx> it show checking file systems.. and it stays like that.. no sound from the hdd...
[07:53] <darkx> no anything...
[07:54] <fribuntu> darkx: it should say which file systems it is checking and why it is doing it!
[07:55] <darkx> 1 sec
[07:55] <wilman> ok
[07:55] <wilman> thx
[07:56] <darkx> brb
[08:10] <Bubba_Gump> is the SISM760GX supported with kubuntu ?
[08:12] <Rede> is there a way i can downgrade back to kaffeine 0.7.1 from the default (0.8.2) in edgy? I use multiple monitors for watching video but the menus appear whenever my mouse leaves the screen
[08:12] <willy_> gracias a todos
[08:12] <willy_> al fin
[08:12] <willy_> de regreso a casita
[08:12] <willy_> tengo otra vezs mi sistema operativo
[08:12] <willy_> jeje
[08:15] <coreymon77> what the?!
[08:15] <coreymon77> estigma: this is an english channel
[08:16] <estigma> gracias por todo
[08:16] <estigma> se les agradece
[08:16] <estigma> como entro a kubuntu espaol
[08:19] <darkx> hi...
[08:20] <darkx> how can i disamble checking files systems??
[08:21] <icheyne> I reinstalled Kubuntu recently. My data (non-OS) partition is now "owned" by the root user. How do I get myself write access to it? I have tried sudo chmod 777 but that has not worked. Do I have to activate the Ubuntu root password or what?
[08:21] <Rede> is there a way to have apt-get install an older version of an app than the latest? i want to install kaffeine 0.7.1 instead of kaffeine 0.8.2...
[08:22] <Rede> i would use chown
[08:22] <Rede> and change the owner of the tiles
[08:22] <Rede> files even
[08:22] <Rede> theres a recursive flag you will want to use
[08:22] <icheyne> Rede, I tried chown too
[08:22] <icheyne> sudo was not enough
[08:22] <Rede> i *think* its -R
[08:22] <icheyne> :(
[08:23] <icheyne> I think there is a way to fix your problem by the way, I saw an an apt-get guide recently
[08:23] <icheyne> hang on and I'll find it
[08:23] <fdoving> Rede: if you have a repository with kaffeine 0.7.1 (apt-cache madison kaffeine) you can select a version with 'apt-get install kaffeine=version', like 'apt-get install kaffeine=0.8.2-0ubuntu2'
[08:24] <Bubba_Gump> SiSM760GX - is this card supported ?
[08:25] <Rede> sudo chown -R yourusername /directory/your/data/is/mounted/in
[08:25] <icheyne> looks like fdoving beat me to it
[08:25] <icheyne> ok thanks Rede I'll try that
[08:26] <Rede> thx fdoving (now to find a repo...)
[08:27] <migol> hi people!
[08:27] <rkaprows> hewo
[08:27] <icheyne> Rede, missing operand...
[08:28] <migol> can anybody help me with problems after upgrading to Edgy Eft?
[08:28] <rkaprows> not me i barely even know what im doing
[08:28] <[Relic] > is it possible to install over a current install w/o many problems?
[08:28] <migol> cuffently, Firefox closes without any reason and with no message
[08:28] <rkaprows> i was just poking around trying different things in here
[08:28] <erwin> hoi
[08:28] <migol> [Relic] : don't think so...
[08:28] <icheyne> chown: missing operand after `/directory'
[08:29] <rkaprows> it seems to me at least having tried some previous versions that kde in general seems more crashy in this version
[08:29] <erwin> i am looking for a prog like qtparted for kubuntu
[08:29] <rkaprows> ie weird things like firefox closing etc
[08:29] <migol> if i don;t get help before CD ISO downloads, i'm going to upgrade in Microshit style :P
[08:29] <[Relic] > backed all the important stuff up, but still can't get the nvidia glx stuff to work properly  :(
[08:30] <rkaprows> it sure does look pretty though
[08:30] <migol> erwin: qtparted is in Kubuntu ;] 
[08:30] <fdoving> erwin: look at qtparted :)
[08:30] <erwin> where can i find it?
[08:30] <erwin> tis is my first time with kubunt
[08:30] <migol> erwin: sudo apt-get install qtparted
[08:30] <rkaprows> did you add "nvidia" instead of "nv" to the xorg.conf file that seems to work
[08:31] <rkaprows> i mean i think its working anyway
[08:31] <yaotzin> uuups
[08:31] <icheyne> [Relic] , I think you have to wipe out the old partition
[08:31] <migol> does anybody know what driver should I use for Nvidia GeForce 420 Go (mobile version)?
[08:34] <unkn9wn> hi all...
[08:34] <BonBonTheJon> konqueror in edgy takes a long time to load a folder initially
[08:34] <BonBonTheJon> hi unkn9wn
[08:34] <unkn9wn> anyone knows how to set up dual boot ?
[08:35] <BonBonTheJon> unkn9wn: install windows and then linux
[08:35] <unkn9wn> the partition has to be logican  (primary) to boot... right ?
[08:35] <unkn9wn> logical*
[08:35] <erwin> hel it dont work
[08:35] <BonBonTheJon> unkn9wn: 4 partitions, 1 /boot, 1 /, 1 swap, and 1 ntfs
[08:35] <erwin> excus help i meen
[08:36] <unkn9wn> and i know that there r 4 partiotions...
[08:36] <migol> unkn9wn: or install grub to MBR
[08:36] <unkn9wn> spelling = evil
[08:36] <unkn9wn> ok...
[08:36] <unkn9wn> this is wot i did...
[08:36] <unkn9wn> formated everything (i needed it)
[08:36] <migol> unkn9wn: you can have 4 primary partitions (3 primary and 1 extended) and on the extended you can have unlimited (I think) number of logical drives
[08:36] <unkn9wn> used NTFS for all
[08:37] <migol> unkn9wn: why NTFS for all???
[08:37] <BonBonTheJon> unkn9wn: can't do them all as NTFS
[08:37] <unkn9wn> 1) linux boot 2)win ntfs 3)root 4) swap
[08:37] <erwin> how can i install qtparted from cd?
[08:37] <BonBonTheJon> erwin: you should be able to
[08:37] <murchadh> icheyne: Did you get sorted? I think it may be a mount issue, which I may be able to help with. It's a quick edit of /etc/fstab.
[08:38] <migol> unkn9wn: nah, this is old-school way, much too complicated
[08:38] <BonBonTheJon> unkn9wn: only win should be ntfs
[08:38] <unkn9wn> and only windows are on NTFS
[08:38] <erwin> i am sorry this is my firt time with kubunti i instald it yesterday
[08:38] <unkn9wn> i edited it later...
[08:38] <migol> unkn9wn: just install Winshit on the very begining of the drive using NTFS partition (10 GB will do)
[08:38] <trappist> migol: language please.
[08:38] <unkn9wn> ok lemme say it this way...
[08:39] <migol> trappist: sry, i'm very used to this
[08:39] <unkn9wn> I DID EVERYTHING GOOD... except windows ntfs (27gb) isnt primary (logical)
[08:39] <unkn9wn> and windows WONT boot
[08:39] <unkn9wn> thats it
[08:39] <unkn9wn> is there a way to change partition to logical or new format is inevitable
[08:39] <BonBonTheJon> erwin: you should be able to install qtparted from cd
[08:40] <migol> unkn9wn: then you just create partitions for Kubuntu, swap, maybe some data partition (FAT32 if you want to use it on both Win and Linux) and GRUB lands on both Kubuntu and MBR partition automaticaly
[08:41] <icheyne> murchadh, I just fixed it
[08:41] <unkn9wn> N V M
[08:41] <unkn9wn> ...
[08:42] <murchadh> icheyne: What was the prob?
[08:42] <[Relic] > don't look like there is a fix for this, did what it said and it didn't go well :(
[08:42] <[Relic] > guess I need to do a full install again  :(
[08:45] <murchadh> [Relic] : What was your problem? I scrolled back but can't really find it.
[08:45] <icheyne> I was being retarded 8o)
[08:46] <[Relic] > can't get nvida and glx running since I switched from a mx440 to a fx5200
[08:46] <icheyne> user error
[08:46] <icheyne> murchadh, oh man
[08:46] <icheyne> I have just seen it did not work
[08:46] <icheyne> what do I need to fix in fstab?
[08:46] <joe3k> [Relic] : i have 5200 as well
[08:46] <[Relic] > everytime I do what it says it basically kills xorg
[08:47] <[Relic] > thinking I need to install with the 5200 in place and hope it installs and works right
[08:47] <unkn9wn> i have 7800GTX  :D
[08:47] <[Relic] > send me one  :)
[08:47] <unkn9wn> and 2 gigs of corsair RAM...
[08:47] <joe3k> [Relic] : hmmmm
[08:47] <[Relic] > that would be more helpful
[08:47] <unkn9wn> dual core ofcors...
[08:47] <joe3k> unkn9wn: i'm happy with 1,24 :)
[08:47] <joe3k> -4+5
[08:47] <unkn9wn> now that was my dream, not reality :D
[08:48] <[Relic] > I've even tried using automatics to get the legacy to normal but that didn't work
[08:48] <[Relic] > automatix
[08:48] <unkn9wn> reality is ati 9600 SE, 512 RAM, sempron 3000+
[08:48] <joe3k> [Relic] : have you already posted your xorg.conf and X logs?
[08:48] <a1b2c3d4_> hello i am new i have one question
[08:48] <unkn9wn> long night in front of me... formating ... seting up 2 os...all programs...
[08:48] <[Relic] > nope can't get to them when I reboot
[08:49] <joe3k> [Relic] : ??
[08:49] <[Relic] > gets to the blue kubuntu gears screen goes through all the loading then stops
[08:49] <joe3k> [Relic] : when loading x?
[08:50] <[Relic] > assuming so
[08:50] <joe3k> [Relic] : have you tried secure grub option? or you ain't a cmd line friend :)
[08:50] <migol> [Relic] : tried to use package from Nvidia site instead of .deb package?
[08:50] <murchadh> [Relic] : This is a line from my fstab and the uid & gid numbers are to set the permissions on the mounted drive-- /dev/hda2 /DATA vfat defaults,uid=1000,gid=1000,auto,rw,owner 0 0
[08:51] <murchadh> Sorry [Relic]  that was for icheyene
[08:51] <[Relic] > on the live cd since that boots
[08:51] <[Relic] > :)
[08:52] <[Relic] > I think trying the one from nvidia is what screwed everything up in the first place
[08:52] <murchadh> [Relic] : Did you sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? and is there free space on the root drive and home directories?
[08:53] <[Relic] > that didn't help
[08:53] <[Relic] > 12% of drive used  :)
[08:53] <joe3k> [Relic] : hm maybe reinstalling xorg and kernel modules
[08:53] <migol> [Relic] : heh, I just used "vesa" when i had problems. f. e. "nv" screwed up whole KDE on 5.10
[08:54] <migol> [Relic] : worth fighting to get GLX?
[08:54] <[Relic] > how do I force a reinstall w/o losing everything due to the stupidity of removing lots of core packages when you remove one?
[08:54] <bLaZeD> !gtkpod
[08:54] <ubotu> gtkpod: manage songs and playlists on an Apple iPod. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.99.4-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 481 kB, installed size 1992 kB
[08:54] <[Relic] > need OGL
[08:54] <joe3k> [Relic] : i think apt-get install --reinstall pkg
[08:54] <[Relic] > blender don't work without it
[08:54] <migol> [Relic] : what do you mean by everything?
[08:55] <joe3k> [Relic] : try to --reinstall all xorg stuff and linux*
[08:55] <Tresko> !flash
[08:55] <migol> [Relic] : heh, my friend is hunting for 3D Studio working on Linux ;] 
[08:55] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:55] <joe3k> [Relic] : i think that should extrac the data again and overwrite the data on your fs
[08:56] <estigma> como instalo super tux
[08:56] <migol> joe3k: this works on Windows, but on Linux tghis may kill everything
[08:56] <estigma> alguiem me ayuda
[08:56] <migol> estigma: SPEAK IN eNGLISH PLX
[08:56] <joe3k> migol: hm why? did myself severak times ....
[08:56] <migol> damn caps, sry
[08:57] <joe3k> migol: assuming he has only from official packages
[08:57] <migol> joe3k: me 2, but i'm not lucky then
[08:57] <joe3k> data
[08:57] <joe3k> well if it's already screwed up i think it can't be screwed up even more ;-)
[08:58] <migol> joe3k: that's why i have partition for /home dir
[08:58] <migol> joe3k: i can screw up everything like now I did with upgrading and i still have my projects;] 
[08:58] <[Relic] > think I got the xorg.conf back so I can atleast reboot  :)
[08:58] <[Relic] > back in a reboot  :)
[08:59] <joe3k> migol: me as well incl. /boot .... but i didn't have to reinstall since 5.10
[08:59] <joe3k> migol: i managed it somehow always to upgrade
[08:59] <migol> dous anybody know that command to make xorg.conf file?
[08:59] <flake> the nvidia driver, do I need the linux IA32 or the freebsd x86  for kubuntu?
[08:59] <joe3k> migol: vim ;-)
[08:59] <migol> joe3k: i mean automatic generator
[09:00] <migol> flake: IA32
[09:00] <joe3k> migol: i heard someone talking about dpkg-reconfigure or something but i don't use that stuff
[09:00] <flake> thnx
[09:00] <migol> np
[09:01] <joe3k> migol: the last time i really appreciated /home was when switching once a year between suse/mdk/gentoo and so on :)
[09:01] <migol> joe3k: yeah, but i remember something like X86Cnfig or something like this
[09:01] <murchadh> migol: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, is it not?
[09:01] <migol> joe3k: heh, after .5.10 i had Fedora, Suse, Gentoo (made from Stage 1!)
[09:02] <oslo> do i need "apt-index-watch" process because it's coming & leaving again & again & it takes much %cpu ...
[09:02] <migol> murchadh: dunn think so, as far as i remember it was diffrent, only one command
[09:02] <oslo> each time i boot with a clean session
[09:03] <oslo> & i'm on kubuntu edgy
[09:03] <migol> oslo: man apr-index-watch?
[09:03] <migol> oslo: *apt
[09:03] <oslo> k
[09:03] <joe3k> migol: wait i'll look into logs
[09:04] <oslo> Aucune entre de manuel pour apt-index-watch /// no manual entry for apt-index-watch
[09:04] <oslo> migol
[09:04] <migol> oslo: weird, i don't have even this command on my edgy
[09:04] <migol> osl
[09:05] <migol> oslo: try apt-index-watch --help
[09:05] <migol> oslo: but it looks like auto-checking for updates i think
[09:05] <oslo> migol> i guess its from aptitude
[09:05] <joe3k> migol: dexconf?
[09:05] <oslo> migol> each 5 secs !!!
[09:05] <migol> oslo: nah, it's from apt-get
[09:06] <flake> how do i downgrade my nvidia driver
[09:06] <joe3k> oslo: man apt-index-watcher
[09:06] <murchadh> migol: Used be XF86Config on some older distro I used, but the dpkg worked for me after an edgy (very) upgrade! Let's you reselect your video card.
[09:06] <BluesKaj> rollback
[09:06] <oslo> joe3k ;)
[09:07] <joe3k> flake: which version do you have and which one do you need?
[09:07] <joe3k> oslo: really, i'm not kidding
[09:07] <flake> edgy 6.10 using the 9629 version (latest)
[09:07] <flake> want to go back to the 8xxx something version
[09:07] <migol> murchadh: yeah, this is the one i needed ;] 
[09:07] <joe3k> flake: you installed the beta one? was it original nvidia or some .deb?
[09:08] <flake> nvidia
[09:08] <joe3k> flake: i'd try the nvidia installer to uninstall the stuff and then apt-get install nvidia-glx
[09:08] <oslo> joe3k> i know i found it when i was about to tell migol, you are faster :)
[09:08] <bLaZeD> is anyone here fimiler with converting videos for ipods using ffmpeg?......
[09:09] <migol> bLaZeD: google?
[09:09] <bLaZeD> migol, well i know how...was just gonna compair it to others........but this is all part of a bigger problem im havein
[09:10] <oslo> a sudo killall apt-index-watcher will be fien ight now
[09:10] <bLaZeD> gtkpod will add videos to my ipod.....they play...but all have no sound.........gtkpod used to add videos fine...
[09:10] <migol> bLaZeD: so what's the bigger problem?
[09:10] <suga_bear> does anyone know how to permanently change the hostname
[09:10] <ecadre> I'm not so keen on the wavey zombie people though :-O
[09:10] <bLaZeD> but i cant find any  info about gtkpod that is relavant.....
[09:11] <bLaZeD> they have no irc room....and the mailing list contains nothing about this prob
[09:11] <migol> bLaZeD: got codec for ipod's audio format?
[09:11] <Bubba_Gump> after installing loadsa themes,
[09:11] <Bubba_Gump> i've decided the original plastic one is the best :D
[09:11] <bLaZeD> migol, yea ive done this b4......somthng has broken or missing
[09:11] <joe3k> Bubba_Gump: milkyway is nice as well :)
[09:11] <murchadh> migol: What worked for you?
[09:11] <bLaZeD> ffmpeg -i InPutVid.avi -f mp4 -vcodec mpeg4 -maxrate 1000 -b 700 -qmin 3 -qmax 5 -bufsize 4096 -g 300 -acodec aac -ab 192 -s 320x240 -aspect 4:3 OutPutVid.mp4
[09:12] <bLaZeD> ^^will convert input to ipod reafy vid
[09:12] <bLaZeD> *ready
[09:12] <ecadre> *posts in wrong channel again*
[09:12] <digivore> hey i have aproblem,   i don't think my kubuntu can reslove a common name server?  i can ping an IP address, but can't ping www.google.com    what can i do?
[09:12] <bubu1uk> anyone knows on what port whois command works? after installing firewall stopped working. dunno what to open.
[09:12] <bLaZeD> digivore, add nameservers to /etc/resolv.conf
[09:13] <migol> digivore: screved up DNS configuration
[09:13] <digivore> bLaZeD, where can i find name servers?
[09:13] <bLaZeD> google
[09:13] <bLaZeD> i have a list of east coast usa servers
[09:13] <migol> bLaZeD: did you checked gtkpod configuration?
[09:14] <bLaZeD> they will work...but if u live far away it wont work as good
[09:14] <digivore> i think i'll check with my ISP
[09:14] <migol> bLaZeD: maybe there is option to turn off conversion
[09:14] <bLaZeD> migol, yea it adds music fine......it adds everything fine....but no sound with the videos
[09:14] <unkn9wn> OK; OK
[09:15] <unkn9wn> i need someone who knows his way with comp
[09:15] <bLaZeD> migol, all it does is copy it over.......i convert it
[09:15] <unkn9wn> how the fuck can i whisper if i'm not registered ?
[09:15] <bLaZeD> migol, gtkpod wont allow u to add any vid......it checks the video format and makes sre it will work
[09:15] <LjL> !language | unkn9wn
[09:15] <ubotu> unkn9wn: Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[09:15] <migol> bLaZeD: so there must be a problem with the video file
[09:15] <digivore> bLaZeD, my name server is set to 192.168.1.1   that doesn't look right.
[09:15] <bubu1uk> digivore: u use router?
[09:15] <bLaZeD> digivore, k u got a router.....connect to it with your browser
[09:16] <digivore> ok  i'm there.
[09:16] <unkn9wn> HELLO, anyone ?
[09:16] <unkn9wn> i will format now...
[09:16] <unkn9wn> use winxp cd
[09:16] <bLaZeD> digivore, and there should be some namservers in there.....simply compy them to the /etc/resolv.conf
[09:16] <unkn9wn> erase ALL partitions...
[09:16] <bLaZeD> but follow the formate in the file
[09:16] <unkn9wn> start form 0
[09:16] <bLaZeD> ie "nameserver ipaddress"
[09:16] <digivore> k thanks
[09:16] <unkn9wn> so first i create... ?
[09:16] <migol> digivore: what's your ISP, and what country?
[09:17] <bLaZeD> migol, it plays fine on my computer...it has sound
[09:17] <bubu1uk> unkn9wn: what is ur problem?
[09:17] <digivore> Shaw cable,  canada
[09:17] <unkn9wn> my problem is... i have to install XP on logical partition...
[09:18] <unkn9wn> now as i understand first i create  boot partition, then ntfs windows, root and last swap
[09:18] <unkn9wn> right ?
[09:18] <migol> digivore: kk, i'll get you DNS information
[09:18] <bubu1uk> unkn9wn: yup,
[09:18] <unkn9wn> i did all that last time...
[09:19] <unkn9wn> how can i set partition to  be logical... ?!
[09:19] <unkn9wn> i can have  4 logical and  1 extended ?
[09:19] <bubu1uk> unkn9wn: u tryin to do dual boot?
[09:19] <unkn9wn> yes...
[09:19] <unkn9wn> dual boot...
[09:20] <migol> digivore: do you have service configuration sheet?
[09:20] <murchadh> unkn9wn: That sounds right. I have an ntfs file system which I installed XP on initially, a FAT32 data partition which I can't remember what I created it with, and two ext3 partitions created with ubuntu 5.04 in that order.
[09:20] <bubu1uk> unkn9wn: why u need extended if u want to setup only 4 partitions?
[09:20] <unkn9wn> yup only 4 partitions...
[09:21] <bubu1uk> unkn9wn: so just setup those 4 logical partitions
[09:21] <unkn9wn> i did all that but the problem is THAT WINDOWS ISNT ON PRIMARY (logical) parititon
[09:21] <unkn9wn> and it WONT boot
[09:21] <bubu1uk> put it on primary.
[09:21] <digivore> migol,   i don't think so.. not anywhere handy...?
[09:21] <unkn9wn> HOW
[09:21] <[Relic] > Hello :)
[09:21] <unkn9wn> how to know which one is primary ?
[09:21] <bubu1uk> 1st one
[09:21] <unkn9wn> linux doesnt need primary ?
[09:22] <estigma> kubuntu en espaol
[09:22] <unkn9wn>    /boot
[09:22] <unkn9wn> ?
[09:22] <joe3k> unkn9wn: linux doesn't care
[09:22] <Lam_> !es
[09:22] <ubotu> Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.
[09:22] <bubu1uk> unkn9wn: setup ntfs, boot, swap, root
[09:22] <migol> digivore: the problem is that Shaw don't give information on their website
[09:22] <joe3k> unkn9wn: primary are the first 4 partitions, under linux namea hdx1-4
[09:22] <migol> !pl
[09:22] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl
[09:23] <bubu1uk> unkn9wn: linux will put grub in MBR anyway, so will know where to go then (which partition)
[09:23] <digivore> migol, i'm pretty sure it's vc.shawcable.net    does that sound right?
[09:23] <joe3k> unkn9wn: in the case you create extended one (as one of the primary parts), you can create 4 another called i think logical, in linux hdx5-8
[09:23] <[Relic] > so how do I force reinstall of xorg stuff?
[09:23] <migol> digivore: maybe
[09:23] <joe3k> unkn9wn: it is possible that for winxp to boot it has to be the very first one though i'm not sure
[09:23] <Mod_Romano> scusate
[09:23] <unkn9wn> bubuluk...i will try ntfs, boot, swap, root...
[09:23] <Mod_Romano> c' qualche italiano?
[09:23] <icheyne> murchadh, You were right that it was an fstab problem. :o) Thanks for putting me on the right track
[09:23] <Mod_Romano> devo fargli una domanda
[09:23] <unkn9wn> if i  have to format again i will fry ur HDD
[09:24] <unkn9wn> ok ? :D
[09:24] <joe3k> unkn9wn: if you don't have the correct order you should try to get win to the very first one as suggested ;)
[09:24] <unkn9wn> i will get back here...
[09:24] <joe3k> unkn9wn: if you don't want to reinstall you could try partition magic or similar program, though i'm not sure they're able to do that
[09:24] <migol> but i can't get ip
[09:24] <bubu1uk> unkn9wn: no prob, give me ur address, i'll mail it to u for fryin. lol
[09:25] <estigma> alguien me da el link para ubuntu en espaol
[09:25] <joe3k> [Relic] : try with that --reinstall option to apt-get
[09:25] <unkn9wn> i know about sweet virus that fries ur HDD (short circuit)
[09:25] <unkn9wn> :D
[09:25] <migol> digivore: can you give me a reault of tracepath 212.77.100.101 ?
[09:25] <unkn9wn> exp it miself...
[09:25] <migol> digivore: *result
[09:25] <joe3k> [Relic] : ... and what is your current status? :)
[09:25] <unkn9wn> anyone has IP i can trace ??? but can get only to city of IP owner
[09:25] <unkn9wn> :D
[09:26] <unkn9wn> going to format now... wont take me long cuz i crashed sis so many times ....
[09:26] <murchadh> icheyne: Class! Might be worth looking into the security implications of said move. I used it to enable samba sharing - I couldn't share anything on non-linux partitions until I did this.
[09:26] <unkn9wn> wish me luck... i will need it...
[09:26] <joe3k> anybody has an idea why is kdetv.org down?
[09:26] <unkn9wn> geeeeeeerooooooooonimoooooooooooooooooooooo
[09:26] <unkn9wn> rofl
[09:26] <[Relic] > no glx
[09:26] <[Relic] > need to get the nv glx reinstalled
[09:27] <bubu1uk> unkn9wn: i wish u luck then. ;)
[09:27] <[Relic] > how do I use a reinstall option?
[09:27] <joe3k> [Relic] : but doesn't it at least crash now?
[09:27] <[Relic] > sure it does
[09:27] <joe3k> hehe
[09:27] <joe3k> [Relic] : well afaik the kernel module is not part of nvidia-glx
[09:27] <myrdos> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#How_to_install_Graphics_Driver_.28NVIDIA.29
[09:27] <[Relic] > in fact it segfaults anything using ogl including q few of the normal data things
[09:27] <joe3k> [Relic] : so you should reinstall that as well
[09:27] <icheyne> ah ok thanks for that. I actually used the partition manager in KDE - so it was simple enough. Security is not a major issue for now. I'm at home and behind a NAT Router, so I reckon I should be OK.
[09:28] <[Relic] > need to find away to reinstall
[09:28] <joe3k> [Relic] : that's linux-restricted-modules
[09:28] <myrdos> you mean you have a nvidia driver that's borked, and it needs replacing?
[09:28] <digivore> migol   got it...      i eventually found it in my router.....  thanks
[09:28] <[Relic] > I mean it got borked when I tried to go from the legacy to the normal one
[09:28] <bubu1uk> !security
[09:28] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about security - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:29] <migol> digivore: np
[09:29] <bubu1uk> lol, me neither
[09:29] <joe3k> myrdos: X crashes reportedly
[09:29] <myrdos> I see... something like that happened to me a while back, and I ended up having to reinstall linux from scratch
[09:29] <joe3k> omg
[09:30] <joe3k> hard words, reinstall linux :)
[09:30] <[Relic] > figured I would have to do that
[09:30] <joe3k> [Relic] : try sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-restricted-modules
[09:30] <joe3k> [Relic] : then --reinstall nvidia-glx
[09:34] <joe3k> [Relic] : and if you're already reinstalling i think --reinstall xserver-xorg xserver-xorg-core shouldn't hurt
[09:35] <yngve> Anyone with a Nikon Coolpix L4 who can tell me how to connect it in Kubuntu Dapper?
[09:35] <anika> Can I apt-get qt4?
[09:35] <intelikey> anika edgy maybe  dapper no.
[09:36] <yngve> !nikon
[09:36] <anika> intelikey: Would packages.ubuntu.com tell me?
[09:36] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about nikon - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:36] <intelikey> yeah
[09:36] <anika> !feisty
[09:36] <ubotu> The next version of Ubuntu (7.04; codenamed "Feisty Fawn"), it should be released in April 2007. At the moment it is pre-alpha. Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule Specifications (goals): https://features.launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/feisty
[09:36] <anika> BluesKaj: You were asking about Feisty? :)
[09:37] <intelikey> feisty is at present ubuntu+1
[09:37] <ijacek> ahoj :)
[09:37] <bLaZeD> !productlife
[09:37] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about productlife - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <bLaZeD> !productl ife
[09:38] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about productl ife - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:38] <anika> !wow
[09:38] <ubotu> Information about games on Ubuntu can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and ubuntugames.org
[09:38] <bLaZeD> when will dapper be supported untill
[09:38] <BluesKaj> thx anika, been reading about it
[09:38] <unix_infidel> !eol
[09:38] <ubotu> eol is End-of-life, the point where security updates stop. Hoary will be EOL in october 2006, Breezy in april 2007 and Dapper in june 2011
[09:38] <bLaZeD> thanks unix_infidel
[09:38] <anika> unix_infidel: Will be?
[09:39] <anika> Oct 2006 has flown
[09:39] <ijacek> i kant find czech user :(
[09:39] <BluesKaj> actually , ive been editing out progs that ai'll never use on Edgy :)
[09:39] <unix_infidel> anika: bug the ops to update it then.
[09:39] <unix_infidel> *shrug*
[09:39] <bubu1uk> ijacek: slovak ti pomoze?
[09:39] <anika> Who has ops?
[09:39] <BluesKaj> !sl
[09:39] <ubotu> sl: Correct you if you type `sl' by mistake. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.03-14 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 132 kB
[09:39] <anika> BluesKaj: Like Outlook?
[09:39] <bubu1uk> !sk
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about sk - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:40] <ijacek> jj snad :)
[09:40] <unix_infidel> !ops > anika
[09:40] <bubu1uk> !cz
[09:40] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[09:40] <ijacek> napis PM nebo neco takoveho :)
[09:40] <jobo> I followed the instructions on how to install xgl (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager/Xgl?highlight=%28xgl%29) They described two methods, one that just let me use xgl for my session and one that installed it more permanent. I used the first method. When I select xgl when I loginto X nothing happends. I just see the "default" background image and nothing else. So, I need to find some logs that tells me what's going wrong.
[09:40] <jobo> Anyone know where it would be logged?
[09:40] <unix_infidel> anika: you get that.
[09:41] <anika> jobo: try ~/.xsessionerrors
[09:41] <BluesKaj> outlook ?
[09:41] <anika> or /var/log/X<somethingsomething>
[09:41] <anika> BluesKaj: Apps you won't use onEdgy :)
[09:42] <jobo> anika:  thanks. I'll check if there is anything 'understandable' in there
[09:42] <BluesKaj> got rid of a whole lotta stuff already , anika
[09:42] <ijacek> yeah english :)
[09:43] <[Relic] > decided to upgrade everything first to see if this works but if not I am just going for a full new install
[09:44] <[Relic] > which means I should download an ISO and see if I can find someway of seeing which packages are installed so I know what to install
[09:44] <intelikey> !upgrade
[09:44] <ubotu> See http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade for upgrading from Kubuntu 6.06 LTS (Dapper Drake) to Kubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft)
[09:45] <jobo> anika, there is nothing about xgl in there..
[09:46] <murchadh> [Relic] : Did you try what joe3k suggests? It sounds like the right track to get into X! A re-install sounds drastic unless there are other issues!
[09:46] <anika> jobo: Have you asked in #ubuntu+1 ?
[09:46] <anika> wait
[09:46] <anika> #ubuntu-xgl
[09:46] <jobo> No, I havn't. I will, thanks
[09:47] <[Relic] > no ogl and always screwing up  main components isn't stable
[09:47] <murchadh> [Relic] : Is it a fresh 6.10 install?
[09:48] <joe3k> [Relic] : you have possibly rests of the old nvidia driver laying around somewhere, the reinstalls should wipe them out
[09:49] <joe3k> [Relic] : do as you like but i'd give it a shot
[09:49] <anika> No ogl ? Blasphemy!
[09:49] <[Relic] > no clue one what the file names are to reinstall
[09:49] <joe3k> [Relic] : you know apt-get
[09:49] <joe3k> ?
[09:50] <intelikey> any security updates in dapper ?
[09:51] <joe3k> no idea i'm on edgy :)
[09:51] <intelikey> any bug fixes in dapper ?
[09:51] <anika> backports?
[09:52] <joe3k> i remember three weeks ago there had to be some
[09:52] <spider-worm> hi all, some of my laptop keys dont work, such as the windows/super key.... anyone know how i switch my keyboard layout?
[09:53] <intelikey> hehhe yeah there are a few in the last week or so  " imagemagick info libavahi-client-dev libavahi-client3 libavahi-common-data libavahi-common-dev libavahi-common3 libavahi-qt3-1 libavahi-qt3-dev libmagick9 libruby1.8 "   is the list i got....
[09:54] <joe3k> what's actually the avahi stuff, does a usual user need this?
[09:54] <Kim^J> Hey all! Is there a program that works like the soundrecorder in Windows? Need something to check if my mic is working...
[09:54] <intelikey> Need to get 4722kB of archives.  After unpacking 32.8kB of additional disk space will be used.
[09:55] <intelikey>  Avahi is a fully LGPL framework for Multicast DNS Service Discovery.
[09:55] <joe3k> krec
[09:55] <[Relic] > tried reinstalling stuff but nothing yet
[09:55] <joe3k> yeah i found that already out ...
[09:55] <murchadh> Kim^J: Try Audacity!
[09:55] <joe3k> murchadh: hmmm does it work with alsa?
[09:55] <Kim^J> murchadh: Naahh... just need to check if my mic is working... :D
[09:56] <joe3k> i remember having similar problem few months ago
[09:56] <joe3k> almost everything supported only oss
[09:56] <[Relic] > back to the xconfig problem
[09:56] <anika> intelikey: My favourite was upgrading to dapper. After getting 900+ MB 200 MB were freed up on the hard drive
[09:57] <anika> That's just sweet
[09:57] <joe3k> yeah and 20 apps were missing ... know that :)
[09:57] <Kim^J> mirshafie: __osh__ Go to #ubuntu-se Hejsan!
[09:57] <joe3k> [Relic] : did you already reboot?
[09:57] <intelikey> mmm there is no xconfig problem,  apt-get remove xorg     no problem  :)
[09:57] <joe3k> intelikey: hehe
[09:57] <__osh__> Where's php4 in dapper? I need it since php5 isn't working so well for me.
[09:58] <intelikey> anika heh yeah.
[09:58] <joe3k> real programmers use copy con program.exe
[09:58] <[Relic] > I can reboot w/o problems I just can't activate glx without problems andthen reboot
[09:58] <intelikey> yeah it did remove several things.
[09:59] <[Relic] > so how does one make a list of installed things into a text file so I can reinstall a billion things once I install again
[09:59] <joe3k> [Relic] : well now i'm not sure what's actually not working for you now .... if you select eg "Driver" nv, does the X start up?
[09:59] <__osh__> [Relic] : dpkg -l >> applist.txt
[09:59] <Kim^J> __osh__: just sudo apt-get install php4 ?
[09:59] <intelikey> dpkg -l >> textfile
[09:59] <[Relic] > the driver is nv but it want nvidia
[10:00] <__osh__> Kim^J: No php4 when I try. Only php5.
[10:00] <intelikey> i said it first... just lagging...
[10:00] <intelikey> :)
[10:00] <joe3k> [Relic] : ok but does it work at least with nv? no 3d, but it shouldn't crash at least
[10:00] <intelikey> !nv
[10:00] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:00] <Kim^J> __osh__: The other channel.
[10:01] <[Relic] > nothing with glx or ogl works that includes any of the system information panels
[10:01] <joe3k> __osh__: ine dgy it's in universe
[10:01] <__osh__> Noted.
[10:01] <joe3k> [Relic] : you mean the X doesn't crash, only the glx apps don't work?
[10:02] <__osh__> joe3k: I'm on dapper unfortunatly. I find this very strange.
[10:03] <joe3k> __osh__: it's there, http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/source/php4
[10:03] <bioticpro>  Hello, anybody get TV-out working on ATI cards?  Mine won't work
[10:03] <joe3k> __osh__: do you have universe repo enabled?
[10:04] <__osh__> joe3k: No, but I don't think I need that for php4, do I?
[10:04] <joe3k> __osh__: you do, it's in universe repo
[10:04] <__osh__> joe3k: Ahh. Odd but OK. I'll enable it. That should help then. =)
[10:05] <BluesKaj> joe3k, which ATI tv card ? ...I'm using TVWonder pro and itworks ok , except the audio has to be fed seperately into the soundcard
[10:05] <slow-motion> n8
[10:05] <joe3k> BluesKaj: -> bioticpro :)
[10:06] <bioticpro> BluesKaj, Radeon 9000 vivo card
[10:06] <BluesKaj> ok
[10:06] <myselfhimself> hi
[10:06] <[Relic] > what was that url again?
[10:06] <myselfhimself> where should I go to be able to show my wi
[10:06] <myselfhimself> ndows's headers?
[10:07] <myselfhimself> they are hidden
[10:07] <Hawkwind> !hidden | myselfhimself
[10:07] <ubotu> myselfhimself: Kubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[10:07] <BluesKaj> bioticpro, fancy card ... dunno about that one
[10:08] <myselfhimself> Hawkwind: that is not what I wanted but I thank you
[10:08] <Hawkwind> myselfhimself: Then what are you looking for ?
[10:09] <myselfhimself> I was looking for the File, Edit insert .. plus the cross and square buttons to maximize and minimize the window
[10:09] <myselfhimself> those are not present on all of my windows
[10:10] <[Relic] > this just isn't working I think it would be best to reinstall is 6.10 stable?
[10:11] <user-land> less tested then 6.04, [Relic] .
[10:11] <murchadh> spider-worm: I've never really gotten the Windows keys to work (except as modifiers). Never spent much time at it, but if you need a new layout its Control Panel>Regional & Accessibility>Keyboard Layout.
[10:11] <[Relic] > so I should stick with 6.06?
[10:11] <Hawkwind> myselfhimself: Ahhh, I've had that issue.  I just chose a different theme in kcontrol
[10:12] <spider-worm> murchadh: i dont have it working as a modifier either
[10:12] <[Relic] >  and is there any possiblity of simply installing over this install, or should I just wipe the disk?
[10:12] <spider-worm> i WANT it to work as a modifier key
[10:12] <spider-worm> murchadh: there are no layouts in the regional & accessibility > keyboard layouts list
[10:12] <myselfhimself> Hawkwind: ok thank you
[10:13] <myselfhimself> I will try that
[10:13] <user-land> [Relic] , you can keep your home directory if you back it up or move it to its own partition.
[10:13] <graft> err, when i try to install kompile, i get:   kompile: Depends: kdesu but it is not installable
[10:13] <murchadh> spider-worm: You need to install them with something like adept.
[10:13] <graft> packages are up to date... what gives?
[10:14] <spider-worm> murchadh: what package do i look for
[10:14] <murchadh> spider-worm: Then enable them in Control Panel.
[10:14] <spider-worm> murchadh: im no linux noob, i just have no idea what package would contain keyboard layouts
[10:14] <spider-worm> if not xkb
[10:15] <graft> spider-worm: what file are you looking for?
[10:15] <spider-worm> graft: a package that contains keyboard layouts
[10:16] <graft> ergh, i mean, if you know a specific filename, just search for it on packages.ubuntu.com
[10:16] <spider-worm> i dont know a filename
[10:16] <graft> well, shit. um.
[10:18] <joe3k> gn
[10:20] <graft> spider-worm: that shit seems to be in xkeyboard-config
[10:20] <[Relic] > Are there any known major problems with edgy or should I install 6.06 and wait to emerge later?
[10:21] <spider-worm> hmmm says i already have it installed
[10:21] <spider-worm> [Relic] : if you use PPTP at all you might consider waiting until they fix some problems
[10:22] <[Relic] > guess if I don't know what that stands for I am probably not using it  :)
[10:22] <dimanish> hi, i'm new user of kubuntu
[10:22] <[Relic] > I'll go with 6.06 and upgrade it later since I have the livecd here anyway
[10:23] <[Relic] > got my install list, need to find my repository list so I can simply overwrite the new one  :)
[10:25] <dimanish> uhh... Konversation is very powerfull rss client... great!
[10:25] <graft> my ham-plank is bosta
[10:26] <dimanish> and what talk about in this channel? about kubuntu? :)
[10:26] <jfro> how do i install a bitmap font? pcf? i used installer, it put it in /usr/local/share/fonts which is one of the FontPath in xorg.conf but it still doesn't show up as available
[10:27] <[Relic] > is there a way to make new partitions so I can simply back up my info on this drive only using 12% so space isn't a problem but only 2 partitions on it
[10:29] <nagyv> [Relic] : yes, there is a program called qtparted, but if you still have unused space for a new partition, then you can create a new partition using system settings->Disk&filesystems
[10:29] <murchadh> [Relic] : You'll need to resize the existing partitions and create new ones in the free space.
[10:29] <markus_> <part
[10:29] <Raven301> !codecs
[10:29] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[10:30] <jfro> stupid font won't show up
[10:30] <[Relic] > used the whole disk so I would need something that repartitions w/o destroying existing
[10:33] <rudenstam> uhmm.. a general linux question: I know how to use find to find all files by a specific user, but how would I go about to find all files that's owned by anyone except that user ?
[10:35] <nagyv> [Relic] : use qtparted
[10:35] <esben> rudenstam: Find should be able to do that (but it will take some time)
[10:36] <rudenstam> esben: yeah, but I'm unsure how to tell it to do it :)
[10:36] <rudenstam> how to negate the -user
[10:36] <esben> try -not :p
[10:36] <xst> After upgrading to edgy, all the moutpoints listed in /etc/fstab are being mounted - even if they have a "noauto"-option. Why are they mounted and how can I disable this auto mounting?
[10:36] <nagyv> is there any firewall installed by default on ubuntu? I would like to open up a port, nmap says it's open, but external parties still see it as closed.
[10:37] <esben> rudenstam: Try -not or just \!
[10:37] <rudenstam> esben: like -not -user root ?
[10:38] <esben> nagyv: Try sudo iptables --list
[10:38] <esben> nagyv: But I doubt anything is installed
[10:38] <esben> rudenstam: yes
[10:39] <esben> nagyv: Most likely, you have a router in front or are NAT'ed
[10:39] <hades> how i can make my kubuntu 6.06 to the new one i mean the edgy one, but i want to change my evirnoment for gnome ??
[10:39] <hades> but the new gnome gnome 2.0
[10:40] <nagyv> esben: I have an adsl router, but I have already set it up (I think at least, is there a way to check it?)
[10:40] <nagyv> hades: I think it would be better to change once you upgraded
[10:40] <nagyv> !edgy
[10:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download
[10:40] <esben> nagyv: only by logging into the router and doing it whatever it takes there
[10:40] <fribuntu> hades: you could just install from scratch (don't forget to backup first), or you could uninstall kde and then "sudo apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade"
[10:41] <esben> nagyv: if it is port 25, most ISP's block it (and won't turn it off)
[10:41] <nagyv> esben: it's 4662
[10:42] <esben> nagyv: To check for NAD, see if your IP afress is 10.x.x.x or 192.168.x.x. If it is, it is surely NAT'ed
[10:42] <hades> can i install gnome 2.0 with this evirnoment
[10:42] <hades> ?
[10:42] <esben> s/NAD/NAT/
[10:42] <hades> i eman 6.06 ?
[10:42] <hades> i mean 6.06
[10:42] <hades> ?
[10:43] <nagyv> it's 192.168, but as I said, I administer this nat (adsl router)
[10:43] <Lars_G> Small ubuntu-debian question. I manually deleted the init script off an app, now I want to reinstall it, but since it's considered part of the config, reinstalling the package doesn't installs the init script. what was the apt-get option to have it installed too? since I can't find it on the man
[10:43] <esben> hades: to install the gnome desktop, get ubuntu-desktop
[10:43] <esben> hades: (It's in Adept)
[10:44] <esben> hades: You could also keep KDE installed and just choose GDM as a login manager somewhere :o)
[10:45] <brett_> I am attempting to configure my graphic settings and I have messed them up several times to the point where i need to reinstall the os. Is there a way to reset the settings to the last known good config from the command line?
[10:45] <esben> brett_: Try dpkg reconfigure xorg
[10:46] <esben> brett_: Not quite sure what the package is... but waity
[10:46] <unix_infidel> `dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg`
[10:46] <unix_infidel> minus backticks
[10:46] <brett_> esben: if i type dpkg it might fix itL
[10:47] <unix_infidel> brett_: no, fire up console, su to root
[10:47] <intelikey> I am attempting to configure my graphic settings and I have messed them up several times to the point where i need to reinstall the os.  <<--- this is not M$ reboot windows.  you don't need to reload to fix a config problem.         sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:47] <unix_infidel> and enter that command at the command prompt minus sthe backticks.
[10:48] <intelikey> su to root unix_infidel hehhe
[10:48] <Lars_G> Please?
[10:48] <intelikey> !sudo
[10:48] <ubotu> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[10:48] <esben> Lars_G: Working on it
[10:48] <tk_> hi :)    can help me anyone help with a problem with adept ? : i tried to install wmware-player ... the packagees will load ...but when adept show the install bar it hangs on 37 %  ... i press the "show details" - button and i can see a half window with the wmware-player installer   ...but i think the installer wants a input link "ok" or "yes" or "next"   but i can see it on the half part of the windows which is visible . cann anyone tell me
[10:48] <tk_>  what shall i do ?
[10:48] <brett_> thanks
[10:48] <unix_infidel> intelikey: what's so funny?
[10:49] <brett_> does anyone know anything about multiple monitors
[10:49] <esben> Lars_G: Try dpkg-reconfigure  package. If that doesn't help...ask again :)
[10:49] <intelikey> unix_infidel default ubuntu su wont work.   no root passwd
[10:49] <Lars_G> o.o
[10:49] <Lars_G> right
[10:49] <unix_infidel> intelikey: ahhh, you are right.  i keep forgetting that i set that up a long time ago :P
[10:51] <flaccid> ah its nice having kubuntu at work now
[10:51] <esben> Beddie time, night everyone!
[10:51] <murchadh> tk_: Try by starting adept from a terminal - and the that input window opens in the terminal you used to start adept. Enabling you too interact with it. There is likely a better solution but this is how I overcame this problem.
[10:52] <Lars_G> Anyhow anyone can help me?
[10:52] <tk_> ah thx...starting from terminal with sudo "kdesu adept" ?
[10:53] <Lars_G> what was the command to have apt-get reinstall a package including files considered to be "config" like the init script?
[10:53] <brett_> I am trying to configure multiple monitors. Has anyone here done this before
[10:53] <[Relic] > where's the repository list stored locally?
[10:53] <sYnie> hey there, i've got a little question: what is the best way to distribute programs for linux users, that aren't advanced. for example, when i am using a library in a program, that isn't that easy to compile. there are a lot of *.bin files out there. but it isn't the best way to distribute the compiled libraries with the program, is it?
[10:53] <Search4Lancer> so I'm finally upgrading to Edgy now that I figured out what I was doing wrong
[10:54] <[Relic] > I have been using adpet for so long  :)
[10:54] <brett_> ????
[10:54] <Search4Lancer> and I get this:
[10:54] <[Relic] > adept  :)
[10:54] <Search4Lancer> 883 upgraded, 135 newly installed, 21 to remove and 35 not upgraded, Need to get 739MB of archives.
[10:54] <Search4Lancer> :-D
[10:54] <fribuntu> sYnie: You always want to distribute the source.
[10:55] <murchadh> [Relic] : /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:55] <fribuntu> sYnie: It is the philosophy around Linux/OSS. Source compatibility, not binary.
[10:55] <intelikey> sYnie depending on the system.   a .deb or a .rpm
[10:55] <trappist> sYnie: I would distribute statically compiled binaries for ease of installation, and the source code separately to be a good open source guy
[10:55] <fribuntu> sYnie: You could find out, what the target system is and then generate them a ready-to-install package including dependencies.
[10:56] <fribuntu> trappist: Boo :) Static binaries ... tsk tsk
[10:56] <unix_infidel> lol
[10:56] <unix_infidel> and we're back to, which is the best way to distribute.
[10:56] <trappist> <3 static binaries for some purposes
[10:57] <unix_infidel> nerds are like effing def jam sometimes.
[10:57] <fribuntu> unix_infidel: source tar :)
[10:57] <trappist> unix_infidel: both!
[10:57] <sYnie> sure, i'll distribute the source, too.
[10:57] <trappist> lots of projects distribute source, debs, rpms *and* binary tarballs
[10:57] <sYnie> but what about libraries, that aren't designed to be compiled statically ?
[10:57] <[Relic] > woo!  all my "important" stuff fits on 3dvds and a CD  :)  probably because the vast majority of my "important" stuff is 3d art and all the files for the game I am making  :)
[10:57] <fribuntu> sYnie: You should not circumvent the package manager.
[10:59] <nagyv> brett_: I am actually also interested in your problem, but not now. So I google a bit, and this seems to be useful (and long :)) http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-82109.html
[11:00] <intelikey> trappist yes i like static/stand alone  apps.   always have.
[11:00] <nagyv> the best response comes from sleepkreep, he is just before the last
[11:00] <[Relic] > back later time to repartition and see if I can reinstall enough of this stuff to make it workable again  :)
[11:01] <Bubba_Gump> is there a simple way to kill a process in Kooboontoo ?
[11:01] <Ace2016> killall?
[11:01] <Ace2016> press ctrl+esc
[11:01] <Ace2016> and then kill any app you've launched
[11:01] <intelikey> xtop top kill killall ^C
[11:02] <Bubba_Gump> thanks :D
[11:02] <trappist> and xkill
[11:02] <trappist> aka ctrl-alt-esc
[11:02] <intelikey> yeah not an exhostive list.....
[11:02] <unix_infidel> someone should really create a factoid on the proper way to kill a process instead of killall or kill -9
[11:02] <Bubba_Gump> very nice :))
[11:02] <trappist> intelikey: what is xtop
[11:03] <Ace2016> i love ctrl+alt+esc but doesn't always get rid of everything, like killing winamp in wine will leave the music playing
[11:03] <unix_infidel> trappist: gui top
[11:03] <unix_infidel> :P
[11:03] <Ace2016> but its great for killing opera which freezes a lot
[11:03] <trappist> unix_infidel: doesn't seem to be in the repos
[11:03] <intelikey> trappist form xutils package i think not a default but it's a gui'd top
[11:03] <trappist> ah
[11:03] <trappist> I've seen htop
[11:03] <trappist> I remember it being pretty slick
[11:04] <intelikey> xtop comes with xclock xbiff and friends.
[11:04] <elias_> des beryl work for kubuntu?
[11:05] <elias_> have xgl running
[11:05] <elias_> works perfectly fine in ubuntu
[11:05] <trappist> I never did get any of that working very well in kde, without using a non-kde window manager (not kwin), which sucks
[11:06] <ubuntu> witam @ll
[11:06] <elias_> can I use something else than kwin without introducing any new problems?
[11:06] <intelikey> trappist yeah i use twm for that stuff.
[11:07] <elias_> and how would I set that up?
[11:07] <raffiik`> from where i can download XGL for kubuntu ?
[11:07] <raffiik`> please help me..
[11:07] <unix_infidel> !beryl
[11:07] <ubotu> Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl
[11:07] <trappist> intelikey: does that do any better than, say, gnome-window-decorator at keeping track of kde windows?
[11:07] <danboid> Anyone know of a edgy repos that has lxdvdrip?
[11:07] <brett_> which version of linux is Kubuntu? Linux IA32, Linux IA64, Linux AMD64/EM64T, FreeBSD, or Solaris?
[11:07] <intelikey> hehhe idk...   it's/i'm  minimalist full gui in less than 100m
[11:08] <raffiik`> ubotu thx
[11:08] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:08] <trappist> brett_: freebsd and solaris are not linux, but kubuntu is available for ia32, ia64 and amd64
[11:08] <ubuntu> hi
[11:08] <danboid> and ppc
[11:09] <danboid> and sparc too, ithought
[11:09] <trappist> brett_: and others
[11:09] <brett_> trappist: are those references to the processor?
[11:09] <danboid> yes
[11:09] <trappist> brett_: the architecture, yeah
[11:09] <brett_> trappist: oh
[11:09] <ubuntu> just testing this kubuntu.. seems pretty annoying to switch from xp to it
[11:09] <brett_> trappist: what is the easiest way to figure out which one I am running?
[11:10] <danboid> ubuntu: use xp then
[11:10] <trappist> brett_: if you're in linux, cat /proc/cpuinfo.  if you're in windows, and you don't know, the safe bet is i386
[11:10] <ubuntu> can't see any of my files, can't read pdfs.. and i would have to format one partition
[11:10] <brett_> trappist: cool thanks
[11:11] <intelikey> ubuntu yeah and ?
[11:11] <ubuntu> intelikey: yeah and i would like to see my files etc :)
[11:11] <brett_> i am trying to configure dual monitors and everytime I hit the test button the screen goes grey and black and never returns to normal
[11:11] <danboid> anyone know where i can get lxdvdrip packages for edgy?
[11:12] <brett_> when you hit the test button in Monitor and Display what are you supposed to see?
[11:12] <intelikey> ubuntu 1 your file can be seen.  mount the partition.  2 pdf is supported by both adobe and gnu/linux  3 to install any os it's advisable to format a partition for it....    anything else ?
[11:12] <Bubba_Gump> brett_: that happens here, too
[11:12] <Bubba_Gump> brett_: i've a SiS (the horror!) integrated thingy
[11:12] <brett_> Bubba_Gump: Is it supposed to do that?
[11:12] <ubuntu> intelikey: how do i do 1?
[11:13] <Bubba_Gump> brett_: and the screen turns grey and black with a big 'X' for the cursor
[11:13] <Bubba_Gump> brett_: I assume not
[11:13] <brett_> Bubba_Gump: Yes that is right.. how do i fix that?
[11:13] <Bubba_Gump> i'd love to know, too :)
[11:13] <danboid> Is there a site like apt-get.org where I can search for ubuntu packages in 3rd party repositories?
[11:14] <intelikey> ubuntu  command line;  sudo fdisk -l     <-- that will show the partitions addressing,   example might be /dev/hda1  ntfs      then  sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/
[11:14] <ubuntu> intelikey: if i mount them, would they still work in xp?
[11:14] <brett_> does anyone know how to solve my problem?
[11:15] <amigrave> since edgy, anyone noticed huge increase of openoffice crashes when using images in documents ?
[11:16] <intelikey> ubuntu yes.   mounting makes them accessable, it doesn't change them.     that mount command is very flexable  you can allow read only access   or read + write to special users or world writable.    -o umask=000   will make world writable.
[11:16] <danboid> brett: i've noticed that if you change res under ubuntu you normally have to restart before it kicks in
[11:16] <fdoving> danboid: logout and hit alt+e should be enought.
[11:17] <Admiral_Chicago> can someone help me figure out why nothing is showing in the system tray, like programs that have a system tray icon don't display
[11:17] <cpk1> ?? you dont have to restart ubuntu if you change resolution
[11:17] <brett_> danboid: i am not changing the res... i am changing monitors
[11:17] <Admiral_Chicago> like amarok, konversation etc
[11:17] <[Relic] > is there anyway of using qtparted to break up a large partition w/o losing the data on it?
[11:17] <trappist> Admiral_Chicago: you probably don't have the system tray applet in your kicker
[11:17] <Admiral_Chicago> trappist: i just thought about that
[11:17] <brett_> danboid: I will not hit apply changes because then i the settings are ussually screwed and i cannot get into the graphical environment
[11:18] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks
[11:18] <ubuntu> intelikey: ok. and where would i find a complete list of commands and the working order in which i would be supposed to proseed?
[11:18] <cpk1> [Relic] : yes, you can resize the remaining free space you have
[11:19] <brett_> trappist: Do you know of anything that might fix my problem. The monitor test button causes a black and grey screen that will not go away?
[11:19] <archangel_> hey is there a way to find out (without looking in my box) how fast my memory is? I forgot.
[11:19] <ubuntu> intelikey: i.g. kinda like linux commands for noobs :)
[11:19] <trappist> brett_: I never got the gui config tools to work right with a dual display.  I had to edit my xorg.conf by hand.
[11:19] <[Relic] > cpk1 : there are 2 paritions 10G swap and the rest for data (ext3)
[11:20] <trappist> [Relic] : are you on an amd64 box?
[11:20] <brett_> trappist: really? that stinks, Can you help me set mine up?
[11:20] <BluesKaj> wow 10G swap !
[11:20] <intelikey> ubuntu  if you want to learn just a little about mounting  file systems    type man mount   in a terminal.    a "complete list of commands"  hehhe i don't think you want that but     ls /bin /sbin /usr/*bin | less    will display most all the commands on the linux system.
[11:20] <intelikey> !cli
[11:20] <ubotu> The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:20] <murchadh> WOW again on the 10G swap!
[11:20] <[Relic] > nope not amd64, just the occasional huge pic for rendering
[11:20] <intelikey> !cli | ubuntu
[11:20] <ubotu> ubuntu: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Manuals: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands
[11:20] <cpk1> [Relic] : how much ram do you have?
[11:21] <[Relic] > figured I keep it large enough so when I finally have 3G ram I will be set  :)
[11:21] <archangel_> does anybody know?
[11:21] <trappist> [Relic] : 10G is WAY overboard unless you're 64bit - you can't even address more than 4GB
[11:22] <archangel_> is a 10gig swap legal?       lol
[11:22] <[Relic] > I am sure it never uses all of it but I didn't want to have to resize a lot once I get a better system  :)
[11:22] <intelikey> archangel_ cat /proc/meminfo  might tell you.... doesn't work on all systems.
[11:22] <BluesKaj> I'm on an AMD64 box but I'm running x86 cuz the64bit dapper didn't see most of my hardware
[11:22] <cpk1> [Relic] : if you have 3gig of ram then you shouldnt even need a swap
[11:23] <archangel_> thanks
[11:23] <trappist> brett_: I maybe could if I had mine handy, but I don't have a dual display anymore
[11:23] <[Relic] > cpk1, guess you have never done any 3d rendering  :)
[11:23] <unix_infidel> no swap is a bad diea.
[11:23] <intelikey> archangel_ i don't know what the max swap size is...  but ram size is a kernel compile time option.   up to 128g iirc
[11:24] <unix_infidel> even if you have 5GB swap, you should give yourself atleast 512MB
[11:24] <T3hWiz0rd> so is kubuntu ever gonna address this issue of the powersaver settings not writing to their config files?
[11:24] <BluesKaj> I'm running !G RAM & 1G swap and the monitor shows the swap doesn't get used
[11:24] <unix_infidel> erm, if you have 5GB physical you should give youself 512MB
[11:24] <unix_infidel> ***
[11:24] <T3hWiz0rd> or is it gonna remain an open bug until the end of kubuntu?
[11:24] <BluesKaj> 1G Ram
[11:24] <intelikey> BluesKaj no gig of ram ? lol
[11:24] <[Relic] > anyway who cares, about that, is there a way to repartition the ext3 section for roughly 112G on this drive to more than one section?
[11:24] <archangel_> the command worked, but no speed
[11:24] <cpk1> at the most you should just have your swap be double your ramsize
[11:24] <brett_> trappist: ok cool.. i found a wiki that might help me.. thanks
[11:25] <cpk1> [Relic] : you can resize existing free space
[11:25] <[Relic] > how?
[11:25] <BluesKaj> 1G Ram, intelikey
[11:25] <unix_infidel> intelikey: his RAM is made out of anti-matter
[11:25] <intelikey> archangel_ i meant that that info isn't in meminfo on all systems.
[11:25] <unix_infidel> shaBAM!
[11:25] <intelikey> :)
[11:25] <archangel_> ahhh, ok
[11:25] <archangel_> gotcha
[11:25] <BluesKaj> my typing skills suck!
[11:25] <intelikey> back in a bit.
[11:26] <archangel_> guess I will have to take out the sim
[11:26] <archangel_> oh well
[11:26] <archangel_> thanks
[11:26] <[Relic] > there appears to be no way of dividing up the big section with qtparted
[11:26] <archangel_> I found a deal on memory and I want to see if that is the speed I need.
[11:27] <ubuntu> intelikey: har, thank you. one last question: when i format the partition, do i have to make an a individual partition for swap or can i use the same partition as for the kubuntu system, or a 2gb allready made swap partition which i made for xp?
[11:27] <[Relic] > only allowing me property format and delete
[11:27] <BluesKaj> [Relic] , I recomend GParted ..it works very well ...the live cd is the way to go
[11:27] <archangel_> 512 meg ddr pc 3200 for $9.99
[11:28] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_: where=
[11:28] <Admiral_Chicago> and also, depends on your motherboard
[11:28] <cpk1> [Relic] : you can use cfdisk
[11:29] <archangel_> Admiral_Chicago: tigerdirect.com
[11:29] <archangel_> sweet place
[11:29] <BluesKaj> [Relic] , I was able to increase the ext3partition , shrink the NTFS to 50G from 100G and increase the swap from 500MB to 1G with GParted .
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> let me check in, thanks i need some more ram
[11:30] <cpk1> cfdisk has an option (n) to use free space
[11:30] <Admiral_Chicago> archangel_: thanks, how old is your motherboard
[11:30] <archangel_> between tigerdirect and that egg place, life is good
[11:31] <archangel_> all most neww
[11:31] <archangel_> few months I think
[11:31] <Dr_willis> ?
[11:31] <pet> que __________
[11:32] <Dr_willis> 'this space for rent' :)
[11:32] <archangel_> brb going to check mem speed
[11:32] <[Relic] > is there a way to install gparted on the live cd?
[11:32] <pet> ajjajajajaa
[11:32] <pet> jajjajajajaja
[11:32] <pet> jajajajajajja
[11:32] <Dr_willis> i thought it was on there [Relic] 
[11:32] <pet> jajajajajajajaja
[11:32] <pet> jajajajajajajajajaj
[11:33] <pet> jajajajajajajajajajajaj
[11:33] <cpk1> [Relic] : try using cfdisk
[11:33] <BluesKaj> [Relic] , it is a live cd : http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=115843&package_id=173828
[11:33] <[Relic] > qtparted is on this one
[11:33] <pet> y
[11:33] <pet> ty
[11:33] <pet> y
[11:33] <pet> y
[11:33] <pet> yy
[11:33] <pet> yyyy
[11:33] <pet> y
[11:33] <pet> y
[11:33] <Admiral_Chicago> thanks
[11:33] <trappist> anybody remember the topic? :)
[11:34] <Dr_willis> 'this space for rent' :)
[11:34] <BluesKaj> GParted for the "W"
[11:34] <[Relic] >  *** The channel topic is "Kubuntu Support Channel | Edgy has Landed  http://kubuntu.org/announcements/6.10-release.php | FAQ: http://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommonQuestions | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuEdgyKnownProblems | Free Kubuntu CDs! https://shipit.kubuntu.org/ | Large pastes go here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org | IRC info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRCResourcePage".
[11:34] <trappist> better than what it was
[11:34] <[Relic] > :)
[11:35] <trappist> gmalex__: you joined recently - do you know what the topic was?
[11:35] <raytray25> o_0
[11:35] <andrepose> I have three network cards connected on an ubuntu dapper server, all three show up in lspci and ip show list but only one when I ifconfig, How do I change this?
[11:35] <Admiral_Chicago> yea i looked back at my log, couldn't find it
[11:35] <BluesKaj> yay
[11:36] <trappist> thanks [Relic] 
[11:36] <ubuntu> could someone please tell me that do i have to make a partition of its own for swap files or could i just use the system partition?
[11:36] <cpk1> andrepose: ifconfig eth# ipaddress up/down?
[11:36] <flaccid> anyone else had set output shell script ?
[11:36] <BluesKaj> [Relic] , I strongly suggest uyou download and burn GParted to cd ...it's an .iso live cd file
[11:37] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu what does your fstab look like? its in /etc/fstab
[11:37] <trappist> flaccid: huh?
[11:37] <cpk1> BluesKaj: he should be able to easy repartition free space with cfdisk =)
[11:37] <eilker_> ftp://localhost is working but ftp://myip  is not working , could anyone help me ??  /vsftpd here
[11:37] <flaccid> typing the command set outputs a shell script instead of running the command
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Gparted  live cd is so much easier and safer , cpk1
[11:38] <cpk1> "safer"? pretty sure both have high user error chance =P
[11:39] <Dr_willis> the gparted live cd - is handy. theres many other rescue-live-cd;s out also.
[11:41] <ubuntu> Admiral_Chicago: i'm in the /etc. how can i display fstab?
[11:43] <Admiral_Chicago> it's a file, scroll down to fstab
[11:43] <Admiral_Chicago> or just run kate /etc/fstab
[11:43] <cpk1> or do cat /etc/fstab
[11:44] <Dr_willis> or 'more /etc/fstab'
[11:44] <Dr_willis> or ...... :) heh heh...
[11:45] <cpk1> less /etc/fstab =P
[11:45] <Dr_willis> Hmm.. is there a script somewhere that can send a file to a pastebin web site and return the pastebin url?
[11:45] <Dr_willis> that could be handy.
[11:45] <ubuntu> Admiral_Chicago: umm.. "invalid or uninitialized input device 166" :)
[11:45] <ubuntu> btw i'm running live cd now
[11:45] <Dr_willis> ubuntu,  thats just a message from X about the touchpad/wacom tablet. :)
[11:45] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu: ah that's because you don't have an fstab.
[11:46] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu so what aru you trying to do? i know you want to add swap between to partitions (am i correct)
[11:46] <luca> hi everyone
[11:47] <ubuntu> Admiral_Chicago: i'm thinking about clearing one of my old xp partitions for kubuntu and just thought how to do the partitioning correcly with one try :)
[11:48] <Admiral_Chicago> well what you want to do is delete it compeltly, (my method) and do not create another filesystem, whn you are installing you would choose "install on largest available free space"
[11:48] <ubuntu> Admiral_Chicago: the installing program said something about swap _partition_ or something so i was thinking that do i really have to have a individual partition for swap files or can i just define a space from kubuntus new partition?
[11:49] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu: wait do you have any linux partitions installed right now
[11:49] <ubuntu> Admiral_Chicago: nope, only xp. and my hds are pretty much used up. i was thinking about sacrificing my games partition for this :/
[11:50] <NemesisUK> hi, kde freezes on me sometimes, I can move the mouse left and right but thats all, what could be causing this?
[11:51] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu i'd advised, but not neccesary to keep a swap partition, swap helped the system performence under heavy loads
[11:53] <eilker_> ftp://localhost is working but ftp://myip  is not working , could anyone help me ??  /vsftpd here
[11:53] <ubuntu> Admiral_Chicago: i guess i do pretty heavy work because this is one reason i'm moving away from xp.. so i would have to make a swap partition? e.g. i can't put the kubuntu system files and the swap files in to same partition?
[11:53] <luca> does anyone know how to unlock a package from the command line?
[11:54] <Admiral_Chicago> have the installer partiton it automatically
[11:54] <steveire> luca: sudo aptitude unhold <package>
[11:54] <steveire> I think
[11:54] <luca> steveire: thanks!
[11:54] <Admiral_Chicago> like i said i would use the "automatically partiton largest available free space"
[11:55] <Admiral_Chicago> it'll make everything for you, including the swap
[11:55] <ubuntu> Admiral_Chicago: ok thanx for the help. I guess I intall a new hd at this point (snarf!:) which has been only sitting there for months
[11:55] <luca> steveire: it seems to function, thanks a lot, after I had blocked gaim with synaptic I was unable to unlock it :)
[11:56] <JohnFlux> what can I use to do basic editing to a movie file
[11:56] <ubuntu> byebye
[11:56] <luca> steveire: I think
[11:56] <Admiral_Chicago> ubuntu do that first, because you'll want the boot loader to know it ekists
[11:56] <steveire> no problem Note that aptitude hold <package> is the opposite.
[11:56] <ubuntu> oki
[11:56] <Admiral_Chicago> JohnFlux: Kino
[11:56] <ubuntu> bye
[11:57] <Admiral_Chicago> i believe, i never used it but it's in Kmenu as Kino video editor
[11:58] <rogeriogomes> I have a problem with a Firefox Web Browser. The page is load, but after Firefox close.
[11:58] <rogeriogomes> Can i fix this ?
[11:58] <luca> steveire: it does not function very well
[11:59] <steveire> luca: Type aptitude show gaim. and look at the State part
[11:59] <steveire> It should say [held]  if it is held
[11:59] <luca> oki
[12:01] <luca> steveire: it says not installed (configuration files present)
[12:01] <steveire> then sudo aptitude install gaim
[12:01] <luca> ok, let me check just a thing
[12:01] <steveire> ok
[12:02] <archangel_> sweet ddr 3200 the exact kind on sale
[12:02] <luca> synaptc STILL sees it as held
[12:04] <Admiral_Chicago> intelikey: did you get XMMS working?
[12:04] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago no. never have tried.
[12:04] <intelikey> Admiral_Chicago i don't think i have it installed.
[12:04] <luca> uhm ok the beta 3 is installed..
[12:05] <Admiral_Chicago> hm, well i dunno how to help
[12:05] <Admiral_Chicago> just curious
[12:12] <bLaZeD> can anyone help me with this....it keeps saying this package cant be authncated.....but ive imported a few keys....... http://pastebin.ulteo.us/223