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rjianBurgundavia...04:05
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elkbuntuguys.. how is it you have not noticed and/or fixed the channel topic yet?06:41
lotusleafto be honest, I didn't notice it06:43
lotusleafbut then, I haven't looked much in this channel today, just at the join/quit msgs ;P06:44
=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-marketing:BHSPitLappy] : Ubuntu Marketing discussion :: Quote of the Day: "<elkbuntu> guys.. how is it you have not noticed and/or fixed the channel topic yet?"
lotusleafdoesn't this channel have topiclock on?06:44
BHSPitLappynope06:44
BHSPitLappywe're not +T right now06:45
lotusleafwell #1, make it so06:45
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lotusleafcaptain jean luc picard of the u - s - s enterprise!06:45
BHSPitLappyytmnd ftw06:45
lotusleafI really dig the obey ubuntu posters madpilot whipped up06:46
BHSPitLappyyeah, but I wouldn't put them up somewhere06:47
BHSPitLappyI mean, does it really send the right message?06:47
lotusleafBHSPitLappy: if they're placed in areas where permission was granted legally by the property owner to put them there, what message is that sending?06:48
lotusleafBHSPitLappy: there are plenty of places those posters may be placed, or distributed, legally06:48
BHSPitLappyit would make more sense if it were a microsoft poster06:48
lotusleafBHSPitLappy: I don't see how06:50
BHSPitLappythey're not very "welcoming".06:51
BHSPitLappyrather, they're kind of arrogant/bossy/belittling06:51
lotusleafBHSPitLappy: perhaps I'm looking at them from a different angle, then. I see them as gritty and interesting enough to make the person think, "Ubuntu?" and look into it06:52
BHSPitLappywell, nintendo's in the same position, trying to reach out to grandma here, new audiences that have been excluded from a field06:53
BHSPitLappyand I don't see ad posters at wal-mart blaring "OBEY NINTENDO" at little old grandma06:54
BHSPitLappyhmm, that really creates a bond, eh06:54
BHSPitLappygood feelings06:54
BHSPitLappythat sense of trust06:54
lotusleafBHSPitLappy: well the obey ubuntu posters don't say OBEY ;)06:54
lotusleafthey just say UBUNTU in caps with a logo above and fine print at the bottom06:55
lotusleafbut I see your point were they to say that06:55
lotusleafand grandma is usually introduced to operating systems in different ways, usually by family06:55
FlannelBHSPitLappy: http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Ubuntu_Posters_Roughcut/Ubuntu-roughcut.png  they're called "Obey ubuntu" because... I suppose they take inspiration from those "OBEY" stickers... for... whatever on earth that is for.06:56
lotusleafFlannel: wikipedia has a good article on the obey the giant (andre the giant) thing06:56
lotusleafhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%A9_the_Giant_Has_a_Posse06:57
lotusleafdarn urls06:57
Flannellotusleaf: er... is that what it was originally from?  Sure. obey on google leads to obeygiant.com, so... mhm.  I suppose that is.  Not that I had any idea.  Always thought it was some stupid punk band.06:57
lotusleafFlannel: the url above explains it, just copy/paste the entire bit06:58
Flannellotusleaf: it's ok, I googled ;)06:58
lotusleafah that url doesn't work anyway, darn it06:59
lotusleafFlannel: good :P06:59
Flannelalthough, to be honest, I wouldn't have ever recognized that as Andre the giant06:59
Flannelnot that that matters06:59
BHSPitLappyandre the giant is effing huge07:00
lotusleafBHSPitLappy: I bet he ate ALL his vegetables =)07:01
BHSPitLappyI bet he ate ALL vegetables, period.07:01
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lotusleaflol07:09
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Flanneler. hmm. bother.07:25
Flannel!iso | lotusleaf08:10
ubotulotusleaf: To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows08:10
Flannel-o not -t08:10
Flannelack.  Sorry.08:10
lotusleafFlannel: ?08:10
Flannellotusleaf: sorry, wrong channel.  Mhmm.  Im all over the place tonight.08:10
Flannelpay no attention to the man behind the curtain, and all that stuff.08:10
lotusleafFlannel: heh, np :) btw #ubuntu-bots is cool for bot queries08:11
lotusleafshould you want to experiment or whatever08:11
Flannellotusleaf: no, I have a query to ubotu for that.  It's just that 7 and 8 are next to each other, and tonight I seem to be preferring 8 ;)08:11
lotusleafFlannel: okay =)08:12
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lotusleafMadpilot: re: forum thread "As for "Shuttleworth Has A Posse" - I might be persuaded to actually design that poster... I am open to flattery, bribery or suggestions." haha, yeah =)09:51
Madpilotactually, I found a photo of Mark that would work after being converted to only black & white, so it might not need that much persuasion09:51
lotusleaflol09:52
lotusleafthat would be great ;)09:52
lotusleafis it one of him in the side view in a space suit?09:53
lotusleafI always liked that pic, wherever it resides09:53
Madpilotno, it's another one, more or less full face, no spacesuit09:56
Flanneluse the one from his Register interview09:59
Flannelor was that CNet09:59
MadpilotFlannel, link me?10:00
MadpilotI was playing with this one: http://jacobo.tarrio.org/albums/cosas/votems.jpg10:01
Flannelhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/10/shuttleworth_oracle/10:01
Madpilotbookmarked, thanks10:04
FlannelIt's a bit small, but you're going to take away so much detail that it'll probably work10:04
Madpilottrue - reducing something to just black & white (no greyscale, just black on white) doesn't exactly need high-quality source files :)10:05
Madpilotanyway, I need sleep; it's past 0100 here and I was up at 0640 or so...10:06
BHSPitLappy!restricted11:13
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jendaAww... I was looking forward to Madpilot paparzzi-stalking Mark to get the photo that would be _just_ right.11:14
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MenZaLapjenda: just received the stickers. Not bad, a bit dark--but otherwise nice. Like the Ubuntu logo.-12:15
jenda:)12:15
jendathey are a bit dark, yes.12:15
MenZaLapAnd 10czk for shipment12:16
jendaI liked them that way, though. Many people would have preferred them lighter.12:16
jenda:-D12:16
MenZaLapI paid 200czk for your shipment :D12:16
MenZaLapuh oh12:16
MenZaLapletter from tax authorities12:16
MenZaLapah12:17
MenZaLapjust a new taxation card12:17
MenZaLapphew12:17
MenZaLapjenda: will you need a new shipment of stickers soon?12:17
jendaMenZaLap: Nope :(12:18
MenZaLapheh12:18
MenZaLapIf you do, you know where to find me12:18
jendaSystem76 puts me outta business on the stickers :)12:18
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MenZaLapBastards!12:18
jendaI'll send you a few - which ones do you want?12:18
jendaSo, the little ones are largely untouched. But - the big logo ones and the white 'bumper' stickers tend to be popular.12:20
jendaIt has still generated a decent income to help with the posters, really.12:20
MenZaLapoh no, nevermind12:22
MenZaLapCheaper for me to print them12:23
MenZaLapWait--the small ones are untouched?12:23
MenZaLapI preferred mine small12:23
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MenZaLapXubuntu*12:23
jendaYes. no one buys them now that system76 ships for free.12:27
jenda:)12:27
jendaI mean - I wouldn't either :-D12:27
MenZaLaplol12:28
MenZaLapLink me to Sys76's12:28
MenZaLapelkbuntu ping12:31
MenZaLapMelissa! I choose thee!12:31
MenZaLapjenda: query?12:33
jendano need to ask12:33
jendaI'd have to google it ;)12:33
MenZaLapI found it12:35
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MenZajenda: printed your things, shipping tomorroe06:19
MenZatomorrow*06:19
MenZaelkbuntu: poke.06:19
MenZahmm, actually nevermind06:19
jendaomg06:20
jendaI'll be shipping yours on wednesday, I thin.06:20
jendak.06:20
MenZa:)06:22
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jendaMenZa: any chance of a few Kubuntu logos?06:49
nixternalyes kubuntu logos!!!06:50
Burgworkwoot!06:50
BurgworkI made it in DW Weekly06:50
nixternalheh06:50
jendaThere's obviously demand....06:50
nixternalya, besides me jenda? ;)06:50
jendayes - I wouldn't've asked otherwise :)06:51
nixternalhehe06:51
jendanixternal: how many would you be interested in?06:51
nixternalwhat are they?06:51
jendahttp://flickr.com/photos/menza/190241486/06:52
jendasee the big Ubuntu thing?06:52
jendalike that.06:52
jendabut K06:52
nixternalprice?06:52
nixternalim a cheap arse right now ;)06:53
jendahehe06:54
jendaSince I'm trading with MenZa for posters...06:54
jendait's actually quite up to you.06:54
jendaI mean, $2 minimum for sending the envelope, but you choose how much you pay for the stickers.06:55
nixternal1 penny06:55
jendaAll the cash goes into the poster business.06:55
nixternaldeal ;)06:55
nixternalhahahaha06:55
jenda$2.0106:55
jendait's a deal.06:55
nixternallol06:55
jenda:)06:55
tonyyarussoBurgwork: INto what?07:23
Burgworktonyyarusso: distrowatch weekly07:24
tonyyarussoBurgwork: ah07:24
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jendaBurgwork: linky?07:24
jendaBTW, interesting new community document sprang up: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LeadershipCodeofConduct07:25
tonyyarussojenda: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=2006111307:25
jenda(doesn't really relate to the MT)07:25
Burgworkinteresting doc, though07:28
Burgworkreminds me, I have been neglecting the UWN07:28
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jendaAnyone I can test my GPG on?08:53
jenda(preferably who has my key already)08:53
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jendaBTW - he asked for it.09:05
Burgworkah, ok09:06
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jendahe _litterally_ asked for it :)09:10
tonyyarussoI believe it, having done that myself.09:50
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somerville32Hi10:06
jendayo10:10
somerville32There is an Xubuntu meeting on November 25th. Should I ask the fridge to put it in the calendar or/and use the launchpad meeting system?10:11
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jendasomerville32: fridge10:48
somerville32Who should I e-mail?10:48
jendahmm...10:54
jendarobitaille :)10:54
jendaor at least it was him at my time.10:54
jenda(when I scheduled MT meetings and NUN meetings)10:54
Burgworkfridge-devel10:56
Burgworkfridge-devel@lists.ubuntu.com10:56
somerville32Is it an open mailing list?11:04
Burgworksort of11:04
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MenZaLapBAD JENDA11:04
MenZaLapGPL STUFF NOW11:04
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jendahuh?11:05
jenda:)11:05
MenZaLap#ubuntu11:05
MenZaLapscripts.11:05
MenZaLapgpl.11:05
somerville32fridge-devel isn't listed at lists.ubuntu.com11:05
Burgworkit is hidden11:11
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jendaMenZaLap: see #ubuntu-offtopic already released 3 scripts under GPL :)11:14
MenZaLap:D11:14
jendaadded a fourth.11:19
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