[04:05] <rjian> Burgundavia...
[06:41] <elkbuntu> guys.. how is it you have not noticed and/or fixed the channel topic yet?
[06:43] <lotusleaf> to be honest, I didn't notice it
[06:44] <lotusleaf> but then, I haven't looked much in this channel today, just at the join/quit msgs ;P
[06:44] <lotusleaf> doesn't this channel have topiclock on?
[06:44] <BHSPitLappy> nope
[06:45] <BHSPitLappy> we're not +T right now
[06:45] <lotusleaf> well #1, make it so
[06:45] <lotusleaf> captain jean luc picard of the u - s - s enterprise!
[06:45] <BHSPitLappy> ytmnd ftw
[06:46] <lotusleaf> I really dig the obey ubuntu posters madpilot whipped up
[06:47] <BHSPitLappy> yeah, but I wouldn't put them up somewhere
[06:47] <BHSPitLappy> I mean, does it really send the right message?
[06:48] <lotusleaf> BHSPitLappy: if they're placed in areas where permission was granted legally by the property owner to put them there, what message is that sending?
[06:48] <lotusleaf> BHSPitLappy: there are plenty of places those posters may be placed, or distributed, legally
[06:48] <BHSPitLappy> it would make more sense if it were a microsoft poster
[06:50] <lotusleaf> BHSPitLappy: I don't see how
[06:51] <BHSPitLappy> they're not very "welcoming".
[06:51] <BHSPitLappy> rather, they're kind of arrogant/bossy/belittling
[06:52] <lotusleaf> BHSPitLappy: perhaps I'm looking at them from a different angle, then. I see them as gritty and interesting enough to make the person think, "Ubuntu?" and look into it
[06:53] <BHSPitLappy> well, nintendo's in the same position, trying to reach out to grandma here, new audiences that have been excluded from a field
[06:54] <BHSPitLappy> and I don't see ad posters at wal-mart blaring "OBEY NINTENDO" at little old grandma
[06:54] <BHSPitLappy> hmm, that really creates a bond, eh
[06:54] <BHSPitLappy> good feelings
[06:54] <BHSPitLappy> that sense of trust
[06:54] <lotusleaf> BHSPitLappy: well the obey ubuntu posters don't say OBEY ;)
[06:55] <lotusleaf> they just say UBUNTU in caps with a logo above and fine print at the bottom
[06:55] <lotusleaf> but I see your point were they to say that
[06:55] <lotusleaf> and grandma is usually introduced to operating systems in different ways, usually by family
[06:56] <Flannel> BHSPitLappy: http://doc.ubuntu.com/~marketing/DIY%20Material/Ubuntu_Posters_Roughcut/Ubuntu-roughcut.png  they're called "Obey ubuntu" because... I suppose they take inspiration from those "OBEY" stickers... for... whatever on earth that is for.
[06:56] <lotusleaf> Flannel: wikipedia has a good article on the obey the giant (andre the giant) thing
[06:57] <lotusleaf> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andr%A9_the_Giant_Has_a_Posse
[06:57] <lotusleaf> darn urls
[06:57] <Flannel> lotusleaf: er... is that what it was originally from?  Sure. obey on google leads to obeygiant.com, so... mhm.  I suppose that is.  Not that I had any idea.  Always thought it was some stupid punk band.
[06:58] <lotusleaf> Flannel: the url above explains it, just copy/paste the entire bit
[06:58] <Flannel> lotusleaf: it's ok, I googled ;)
[06:59] <lotusleaf> ah that url doesn't work anyway, darn it
[06:59] <lotusleaf> Flannel: good :P
[06:59] <Flannel> although, to be honest, I wouldn't have ever recognized that as Andre the giant
[06:59] <Flannel> not that that matters
[07:00] <BHSPitLappy> andre the giant is effing huge
[07:01] <lotusleaf> BHSPitLappy: I bet he ate ALL his vegetables =)
[07:01] <BHSPitLappy> I bet he ate ALL vegetables, period.
[07:09] <lotusleaf> lol
[07:25] <Flannel> er. hmm. bother.
[08:10] <Flannel> !iso | lotusleaf
[08:10] <ubotu> lotusleaf: To mount an .iso image: sudo mount -o loop my.iso /some/mountpoint - bin/cue can be converted to iso with bchunk  .iso images of Ubuntu CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com Always verify the .iso before burning, see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[08:10] <Flannel> -o not -t
[08:10] <Flannel> ack.  Sorry.
[08:10] <lotusleaf> Flannel: ?
[08:10] <Flannel> lotusleaf: sorry, wrong channel.  Mhmm.  Im all over the place tonight.
[08:10] <Flannel> pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, and all that stuff.
[08:11] <lotusleaf> Flannel: heh, np :) btw #ubuntu-bots is cool for bot queries
[08:11] <lotusleaf> should you want to experiment or whatever
[08:11] <Flannel> lotusleaf: no, I have a query to ubotu for that.  It's just that 7 and 8 are next to each other, and tonight I seem to be preferring 8 ;)
[08:12] <lotusleaf> Flannel: okay =)
[09:51] <lotusleaf> Madpilot: re: forum thread "As for "Shuttleworth Has A Posse" - I might be persuaded to actually design that poster... I am open to flattery, bribery or suggestions." haha, yeah =)
[09:51] <Madpilot> actually, I found a photo of Mark that would work after being converted to only black & white, so it might not need that much persuasion
[09:52] <lotusleaf> lol
[09:52] <lotusleaf> that would be great ;)
[09:53] <lotusleaf> is it one of him in the side view in a space suit?
[09:53] <lotusleaf> I always liked that pic, wherever it resides
[09:56] <Madpilot> no, it's another one, more or less full face, no spacesuit
[09:59] <Flannel> use the one from his Register interview
[09:59] <Flannel> or was that CNet
[10:00] <Madpilot> Flannel, link me?
[10:01] <Madpilot> I was playing with this one: http://jacobo.tarrio.org/albums/cosas/votems.jpg
[10:01] <Flannel> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/10/shuttleworth_oracle/
[10:04] <Madpilot> bookmarked, thanks
[10:04] <Flannel> It's a bit small, but you're going to take away so much detail that it'll probably work
[10:05] <Madpilot> true - reducing something to just black & white (no greyscale, just black on white) doesn't exactly need high-quality source files :)
[10:06] <Madpilot> anyway, I need sleep; it's past 0100 here and I was up at 0640 or so...
[11:13] <BHSPitLappy> !restricted
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[11:14] <jenda> Aww... I was looking forward to Madpilot paparzzi-stalking Mark to get the photo that would be _just_ right.
[12:15] <MenZaLap> jenda: just received the stickers. Not bad, a bit dark--but otherwise nice. Like the Ubuntu logo.-
[12:15] <jenda> :)
[12:15] <jenda> they are a bit dark, yes.
[12:16] <MenZaLap> And 10czk for shipment
[12:16] <jenda> I liked them that way, though. Many people would have preferred them lighter.
[12:16] <jenda> :-D
[12:16] <MenZaLap> I paid 200czk for your shipment :D
[12:16] <MenZaLap> uh oh
[12:16] <MenZaLap> letter from tax authorities
[12:17] <MenZaLap> ah
[12:17] <MenZaLap> just a new taxation card
[12:17] <MenZaLap> phew
[12:17] <MenZaLap> jenda: will you need a new shipment of stickers soon?
[12:18] <jenda> MenZaLap: Nope :(
[12:18] <MenZaLap> heh
[12:18] <MenZaLap> If you do, you know where to find me
[12:18] <jenda> System76 puts me outta business on the stickers :)
[12:18] <MenZaLap> Bastards!
[12:18] <jenda> I'll send you a few - which ones do you want?
[12:20] <jenda> So, the little ones are largely untouched. But - the big logo ones and the white 'bumper' stickers tend to be popular.
[12:20] <jenda> It has still generated a decent income to help with the posters, really.
[12:22] <MenZaLap> oh no, nevermind
[12:23] <MenZaLap> Cheaper for me to print them
[12:23] <MenZaLap> Wait--the small ones are untouched?
[12:23] <MenZaLap> I preferred mine small
[12:23] <MenZaLap> Xubuntu*
[12:27] <jenda> Yes. no one buys them now that system76 ships for free.
[12:27] <jenda> :)
[12:27] <jenda> I mean - I wouldn't either :-D
[12:28] <MenZaLap> lol
[12:28] <MenZaLap> Link me to Sys76's
[12:31] <MenZaLap> elkbuntu ping
[12:31] <MenZaLap> Melissa! I choose thee!
[12:33] <MenZaLap> jenda: query?
[12:33] <jenda> no need to ask
[12:33] <jenda> I'd have to google it ;)
[12:35] <MenZaLap> I found it
[06:19] <MenZa> jenda: printed your things, shipping tomorroe
[06:19] <MenZa> tomorrow*
[06:19] <MenZa> elkbuntu: poke.
[06:19] <MenZa> hmm, actually nevermind
[06:20] <jenda> omg
[06:20] <jenda> I'll be shipping yours on wednesday, I thin.
[06:20] <jenda> k.
[06:22] <MenZa> :)
[06:49] <jenda> MenZa: any chance of a few Kubuntu logos?
[06:50] <nixternal> yes kubuntu logos!!!
[06:50] <Burgwork> woot!
[06:50] <Burgwork> I made it in DW Weekly
[06:50] <nixternal> heh
[06:50] <jenda> There's obviously demand....
[06:50] <nixternal> ya, besides me jenda? ;)
[06:51] <jenda> yes - I wouldn't've asked otherwise :)
[06:51] <nixternal> hehe
[06:51] <jenda> nixternal: how many would you be interested in?
[06:51] <nixternal> what are they?
[06:52] <jenda> http://flickr.com/photos/menza/190241486/
[06:52] <jenda> see the big Ubuntu thing?
[06:52] <jenda> like that.
[06:52] <jenda> but K
[06:52] <nixternal> price?
[06:53] <nixternal> im a cheap arse right now ;)
[06:54] <jenda> hehe
[06:54] <jenda> Since I'm trading with MenZa for posters...
[06:54] <jenda> it's actually quite up to you.
[06:55] <jenda> I mean, $2 minimum for sending the envelope, but you choose how much you pay for the stickers.
[06:55] <nixternal> 1 penny
[06:55] <jenda> All the cash goes into the poster business.
[06:55] <nixternal> deal ;)
[06:55] <nixternal> hahahaha
[06:55] <jenda> $2.01
[06:55] <jenda> it's a deal.
[06:55] <nixternal> lol
[06:55] <jenda> :)
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> Burgwork: INto what?
[07:24] <Burgwork> tonyyarusso: distrowatch weekly
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> Burgwork: ah
[07:24] <jenda> Burgwork: linky?
[07:25] <jenda> BTW, interesting new community document sprang up: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LeadershipCodeofConduct
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> jenda: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20061113
[07:25] <jenda> (doesn't really relate to the MT)
[07:28] <Burgwork> interesting doc, though
[07:28] <Burgwork> reminds me, I have been neglecting the UWN
[08:53] <jenda> Anyone I can test my GPG on?
[08:53] <jenda> (preferably who has my key already)
[09:05] <jenda> BTW - he asked for it.
[09:06] <Burgwork> ah, ok
[09:10] <jenda> he _litterally_ asked for it :)
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> I believe it, having done that myself.
[10:06] <somerville32> Hi
[10:10] <jenda> yo
[10:11] <somerville32> There is an Xubuntu meeting on November 25th. Should I ask the fridge to put it in the calendar or/and use the launchpad meeting system?
[10:48] <jenda> somerville32: fridge
[10:48] <somerville32> Who should I e-mail?
[10:54] <jenda> hmm...
[10:54] <jenda> robitaille :)
[10:54] <jenda> or at least it was him at my time.
[10:54] <jenda> (when I scheduled MT meetings and NUN meetings)
[10:56] <Burgwork> fridge-devel
[10:56] <Burgwork> fridge-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
[11:04] <somerville32> Is it an open mailing list?
[11:04] <Burgwork> sort of
[11:04] <MenZaLap> BAD JENDA
[11:04] <MenZaLap> GPL STUFF NOW
[11:05] <jenda> huh?
[11:05] <jenda> :)
[11:05] <MenZaLap> #ubuntu
[11:05] <MenZaLap> scripts.
[11:05] <MenZaLap> gpl.
[11:05] <somerville32> fridge-devel isn't listed at lists.ubuntu.com
[11:11] <Burgwork> it is hidden
[11:14] <jenda> MenZaLap: see #ubuntu-offtopic already released 3 scripts under GPL :)
[11:14] <MenZaLap> :D
[11:19] <jenda> added a fourth.