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bLaZeDand its a pain in the butt to have to say yes ech time12:12
eilker ftp://localhost is working but ftp://myip  is not working , could anyone help me ??  /vsftpd here12:13
lupine_85presumably it's bound to 127.0.0.1 but not your external IP12:14
lupine_85modify the config file as needed12:14
eilkerlupine_85: could you tell me more? newbie here...12:15
eilkerlupine_85: i forwarded 20 and 21. ports already12:16
lupine_85I've no idea about the config file for vsftpd, sorry12:16
lupine_85it'll be in /etc somewhere12:16
lupine_85look for the option that tells it what IP addresses to bind to, and add yourip to that12:16
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eilkerlupine_85: this is my conf file...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31563/12:18
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lupine_85like I said, no idea. maybe it's the "listen" line. maybe it isn't. check the application's man page, or the website, or $random_tutorial12:20
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eilkerok thanx anyway:)12:22
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lucasteveire: I am unable to install the deb package of gaim 2 beta 5, it stays fixed at 3 (repos)12:24
steveireI'm pretty sure beta 3 is the latest in my repos. Have you got strange repos?12:25
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lucano no I have not, but I have downloaded the beta 5 rpm, converted with alien...12:26
lucait does not install it, kpackage says result=12:26
luca112:26
bubu1ukeilker: sorry, just came to pc. what's ur problem with ftp?12:27
steveireluca: I can't help you so. Sorry.12:27
lucasteveire: no problem, thanks anyway :)12:28
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lupine_85luca: the install scripts inside the rpm-now-deb are probably returning an error, which is understandable given that they're written for a completely different system layout12:28
lupine_85building from source would be your best bet12:28
eilkerbubu1uk: i wanna serve ftp server over internet, it only works in local12:29
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eilkerbubu1uk: ftp://localhost is working but ftp://myip  is not working ...12:29
lucalupine_85: I feared so12:29
bubu1ukeilker: from same machine?12:29
eilkerbubu1uk: yes sir12:29
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lupine_85or you could hax0r the script files if you were desperate, but alien is an ugly hack at best12:29
eilkerbubu1uk: i already forwarded 20 and 21. ports...12:30
lucaI will wait for the official version I guess...which i will install via console as synaptic is quite stupid with the holding :(12:30
bubu1ukit never works from same machine that way.12:30
Gul3hello! i got some trouble with to get sound out of my computer.. i got one integrated sound cad, and one sound blaster live card. i want to use SBL. i just installed kubuntu. pretty noob to linux12:30
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eilkerbubu1uk: and this is my conf file...http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31563/12:30
bubu1ukdo u want me to try to connect to it? i got ftp, works ftp, not public ip12:30
bubu1ukeilker: already checked ur conf file12:30
eilkerbubu1uk: ok i can give my ip to you , may i message it to you?12:31
bubu1ukeilker: no problem12:31
bubu1ukeilker: also, u want it as absolutely oopened for anonymous login (as u have it in conf file)12:32
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eilkerbubu1uk: i dont care for it, just i wanna learn this, i can close it after, not important information in this pc12:33
bLaZeD!restricted12:34
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:34
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lucabye12:37
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[cf] nightrid3reilker: you should, anonymous ftp acces with write rights will turn your box into a nice warez dump12:38
Gul3omg, i quitted by mistake. can i please get the 2 multimedia links one more time...? sorry12:38
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Admiral_Chicago!restricted12:39
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats12:39
Admiral_ChicagoGul3: that one?12:39
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Gul3thanks!12:40
ubuntuhey guys12:40
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eilker[cf] nightrid3r:thanx it is already working now:)12:41
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[cf] nightrid3reilker: i know, i uploaded something :)12:42
ubuntuhi guys12:42
eilkerahahah:)12:42
eilkerlet me see:)12:42
ubuntuim running ubuntu from a live cdand its pretty cool12:42
ubuntumy sound isnt working though12:42
ubuntuI have to restart12:43
eilker[cf] nightrid3r:check http one too:)12:45
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bitchslapperhey people, can't get my Dell 1500 Wireless to work, I just installed ndiswrapper, installed the driver did a ndiswrapper -m .. but don't know what to do next, iwconfig still shows no extensions12:47
ruisuhey, hello , SU gives me an Authentification error, wats happening?12:47
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bitchslapperndiswrapper -l says that driver is installed and hardware is present.12:47
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[cf] nightrid3reilker: nice :D12:48
bubu1ukruisu: root account is disallowed by default.12:48
ruisuyeah.... i cant run adept manager anymore... :S12:48
bubu1ukeilker: what's name of that babe on webpage?12:48
bubu1ukruisu: sudo?12:49
eilkerso beautiful right:))) i think mandy moore12:49
max__salut12:49
max__tous le ;onde12:49
max__monde12:50
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bubu1uk!fr12:50
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.12:50
ruisusudo?12:51
ruisui dununo, i run from k menu...12:51
ruisusudo -i retunrs this:12:52
ruisu>>> sudoers file:syntax error, line 0~9 <<<<12:52
[cf] nightrid3rruisu: you can't su in a clean install, root has no password set, use sudo12:52
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bubu1ukruisu: check /etc/sudoers file then12:53
ruisunono, i mean, suddently, i cant sudo, i think the sudoers file is wrong, in something12:53
ruisuok12:53
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ruisuwow12:54
ruisuits empy :O12:54
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ruisui think smb4k messed up that file...12:55
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ruisuhaha I see the sudoers file is protected...12:56
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bubu1ukruisu: sudo cat /etc/sudoers will work?12:57
ruisububu1uk, what can i do?12:57
ruisuoh, lets se12:57
lupine_85Real Users set a root password first12:57
lupine_85everyone else boots into recovery mode12:57
ruisunope12:58
txushola12:58
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ruisusince its using sudo :P12:58
bubu1uklol12:58
txusalguien que hable espaol12:58
ruisuyo12:58
lupine_85ruisu: reboot :(12:58
ruisu:(12:58
ruisui already did12:58
ruisubecause of this12:58
ruisuno avail...12:58
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ruisutxus, ya viste en el canal ubuntu-es?12:59
lupine_85as in, into recovery mode12:59
bubu1ukruisu: what error u get when tryin to acces that file with sudo?12:59
lupine_85where you will be root, and so can edit the file12:59
txusno12:59
txusperdon12:59
txusen este mismo server12:59
ruisu:P cheka ahi ;)12:59
txus???12:59
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ruisutxus,si, creo k si :)12:59
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txusgracias01:00
ruisutxus, denada :)01:00
ruisuoh01:00
ruisukubuntu-es, nose hehe01:00
ruisububu1uk, http://pastebin.com/82374201:01
bubu1uklupine_85: good advice setting up root password. didn't know that. thought when root account dissabled, u cannot do it. lol01:01
bubu1uknew thing i learned.01:01
lupine_85sudo passwd is your friend01:01
lupine_85but only if sudo is working01:01
bubu1uklol. done it allready. ;)01:01
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bubu1ukruisu: seems like u really have to go to recovery mode.01:02
ruisumhm :S01:02
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ruisuok, ill learn how to make a sudoers file ;) goodbye01:02
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[cf] nightrid3rruisu: http://pastebin.com/823747 <--- contents of my sudoers file01:03
bubu1ukhmm, ruisu left. lol. bit late. ;)01:04
[cf] nightrid3ryeah :)01:04
bubu1ukdoesnt' know what he's missing. lol01:04
[cf] nightrid3rduno if init 1 will allow him to log in01:04
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[cf] nightrid3rcan't test it cos the first thing i did after install was set a root pass01:06
[cf] nightrid3rthe installer should realy tell the n00bs to set a root pass01:07
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ruisuyeah... any body could give me a copy of /etc/sudoer, please?01:08
[cf] nightrid3rruisu: http://pastebin.com/823747 <--- contents of my sudoers file01:09
ruisuthanks :)01:09
[cf] nightrid3rruisu: try if init1 gives you acces to box as root01:09
ruisuok , out to recovery mode :S01:10
ruisuinit1?01:10
ruisuths script?01:10
ruisuor what? XD01:10
[cf] nightrid3rinit 1 switches to single user mode01:10
[cf] nightrid3rfor maintenance stuff01:11
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[cf] nightrid3ras probably a last resort :/01:11
ruisuhum, so how do i use that?01:11
[cf] nightrid3rruisu: hmmm you don't, got to be root to do that :(01:12
ruisui mean, how do i enter in init1 mode? :P01:12
[cf] nightrid3rruisu: you can't, i forgot you have to be root to do it01:13
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[cf] nightrid3rso recovery mode is all thats left01:13
ruisuor i could try and boot the installation cd, and mount this partition and edit the sudoers with the copy?01:13
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[cf] nightrid3rruisu: might work01:13
ruisu:)01:13
ruisuok, umm the alternate cd doesnot have the gui live cd session?01:14
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[cf] nightrid3rruisu: then you can have fun on the cli01:15
ruisuwhat? the cli?01:15
ruisuumm, ok, ill burn another normal cd...01:16
[cf] nightrid3rruisu: like command prompt in windoose01:16
hadeswhat program do i need to watch divx01:17
hadeson kubuntu01:17
hades??01:17
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Omnifrogmplayer?01:17
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ruisuoh, yeah, im ok with that :)01:17
ruisuok brb01:18
[cf] nightrid3rhades: vlc01:18
thompahello, im having my bottom line or two cut off when I print on an HP lazerjet 101801:18
delight!Radeondriver01:18
thompait always worked before in ubuntu, not sure whats up01:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about Radeondriver - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:18
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delight!3d01:18
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about 3d - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:18
[cf] nightrid3r!ati01:19
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto01:19
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Omnifrog!fair use rights01:19
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about fair use rights - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:19
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Omnifroghow do you train that stupid bot?01:19
thompaactually it looks like 3 last paragraphs are off page?01:20
hadeswhat program do i need to watch divx just vlc ?01:20
Ahmucki purchased a new hard drive, sata but have not sata cable.  if i use my current ide cable and then later decide to do sata, will i be able so switch?01:20
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[cf] nightrid3rhades: vlc will play almost all video formats see http://www.videolan.org01:21
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thompaAhmuck: are you using an IDE hard drive then?01:21
Ahmuckcurrently01:22
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[cf] nightrid3rAhmuck: ide cable will not fit on sata drive01:22
Ahmucki have a sata/ide adapter01:22
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delighthttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver says full 2D acceleration for X600 / rv380 based cards ... how come it does not work right with resolutions higher then 1024 ? wouldn't call that full 2D support01:22
thompaAhmuck: well you will have to rinstall on that hard drive then, some sata controller support is not so good either01:22
[Relic] qtpart and gpart don't work any other options?01:22
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Ahmucker. nm, it goest the other way01:22
Ahmuckoh, plz plz, i hope the sata controller works plz plz01:23
thompaAhmuck: is it nvidia?01:23
[cf] nightrid3rAhmuck: a sata cable is like $201:23
Ahmuckit's seagate, the sata controller, yes, nvidia01:23
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Ahmucki suspect, as the mobo has nvida chip on it01:24
thompaAhmuck: nvidia is not open as far as sata controllers01:24
[cf] nightrid3rnp nvidia sata is supported01:24
thompait might be01:24
[Relic] not sure if there is anything else to use to repartion a drive  :(01:25
thompamine boots with errors01:25
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[cf] nightrid3rnvidia doesn't supply sata drivers, they are in the official kernel01:25
Ahmucki have a sata cable at the other house, but i did not want to drive across town to get it01:25
[cf] nightrid3ri'm running kubuntu on a 320GB sata nvidia nforce401:26
thompayes i could tell the ones in the kernel were loaded01:26
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probosewell, when i delete something in my Mp3 player, it somehow still there, in a folder called /.Trash-probose. So how do i totally format the mp3 player?01:26
thompamy sata does not work without many boot errors though01:26
[cf] nightrid3rprobose: with the mp3 connected try emptying the trashcan01:27
thompaim using an IDE drive right now01:27
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probosenight i still with just 131mb free, and there is 0 files inside the mp3 player01:28
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[cf] nightrid3rprobose: just to be safe i would use the mp3players format function if available01:29
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probosenightrid3r i dont have it -.-"01:30
[cf] nightrid3ror remove the trash folder from the cli01:30
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proboseuh?01:30
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Homer!xgl01:31
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems01:31
ramiro_hello01:31
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[cf] nightrid3rprobose: cli == terminal01:32
probosenightrid3r how do i format the mp3 from the terminal?01:32
proboseor how do i remove the trash from the cli?01:32
probosei must fix my mp3 anyway :(01:32
[cf] nightrid3rprobose: do you have any SCSI or SATA disks01:33
probosei think that my hd is sata01:33
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wildchildis there any way to upgrade or put in some plug ins into krita, couse I am working on graphic,...01:33
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[cf] nightrid3rprobose: ok, open a terminal and type mount01:34
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probosethen?01:34
[cf] nightrid3rdo you see a line that says /dev/sda......01:35
proboseyes i do01:36
flaccidis firefox 2 backported to dapper yet officially?01:36
[cf] nightrid3rok give the full line01:36
probose/dev/sda on /media/usbdisk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=mixed,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)01:36
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[cf] nightrid3rprobose: type umount /dev/sda01:37
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proboseand now?01:38
campbchi have build-essential, but when i try to build a particular .c file it says it cant find aclocal? why is this?01:38
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[cf] nightrid3rprobose: mkfs.vfat /dev/sda01:38
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eilker!nmap > eilker01:39
probosemkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)01:39
probosemkfs.vfat: Will not try to make filesystem on full-disk device '/dev/sda' (use -I if wanted)01:39
[cf] nightrid3rprobose: mkfs.vfat /dev/sda -l01:39
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proboseis this going to fuck firmware and things like it?01:40
campbch!aclocal01:40
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about aclocal - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi01:40
pointwoodhi, I want to report a hardware bug report about the card reader in my thinkpad - what info do I need to post? I have so far added lspci and dmesg | tail output - anything else I need to add?01:40
[cf] nightrid3rprobose: no it just formats01:40
probosemkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)01:41
probosemkfs.vfat: option requires an argument -- l01:41
proboseUnknown option: ?01:41
[cf] nightrid3rmkfs.vfat -l /dev/sda01:41
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proboseisnt it -I instead -l?01:42
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[Relic] Anyone know of any way to repartion a large section by splitting it in 2 w/o having to delete everything from it to do it?   I need to reinstall this yet, but can't find away to repartitoin the drive01:43
[cf] nightrid3ryes could be i'm haveing problems reading my monitor01:43
inteliwaspHow can I set myself full permission for my computer's web root?01:43
proboseo01:43
proboseok01:43
probosewhat now?01:43
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[cf] nightrid3rthat should be it01:43
[cf] nightrid3runplug and replug the mp301:44
ruisufinally :) i entered in recovery mode, and i was root, and i saw that the sudoers file had the messages when running a program with sudo from console :P01:44
ruisukinda like BadMayocode X windows, and stuff :P and edited the  ;)01:44
probosegreat!01:44
proboseit is working!01:44
ruisumayor//01:44
ruisu:)01:44
probosebut everytime i wish to delete files i'll have to do it?01:44
[cf] nightrid3rprobose: no you could use the cli to remove them and bypass the trash stuff01:45
probosehow?01:45
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[cf] nightrid3rprobose: rm /media/usbdisk/mp3todelete01:46
[cf] nightrid3rprobose: rm /media/usbdisk/*.mp3 to delete all mp3's01:46
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[cf] nightrid3rprobose: btw you don't have a sata disk :)01:47
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bLaZeDim trying to use conky and its sayin it cant find tcp_portmon ...is there a package that contains this....as i cant seem to spt-get it01:48
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[cf] nightrid3rbLaZeD: i think its in tcpwrapper01:49
bLaZeD[cf] nightrid3r, no package named that....01:49
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[cf] nightrid3rbLaZeD: try #conky they might be able to help01:52
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coreymon77are there any irc bouncers on apt?01:53
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Search4Lanceralright, I got an error while upgrading01:56
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Search4LancerUnpacking replacement xkeyboard-config ...01:56
Search4LancerErrors were encountered while processing:01:56
Search4Lancer /var/cache/apt/archives/v4l-conf_3.95-4ubuntu1_i386.deb01:56
Search4LancerE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)01:56
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linuxbombedgy is stable right?01:57
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Dr_williswow  'sun gpl's java'01:57
Dr_willishttp://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS4348361333.html01:58
aseigomismatched quotes.01:58
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Search4Lancer......01:58
Dr_willisone is an aposotpse :)01:59
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Dr_willis Sun Considering GPL For OpenSolaris.02:02
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coreymon77guys02:03
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coreymon77i have a friend02:04
coreymon77linux newbie02:04
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coreymon77and his first linux is debian, just plain old normal debian (even after my countless kubuntu reccomendations)02:04
coreymon77now he doesnt really like ti (having problems) and im trying to convince him that kubuntu is a better distro, especially for a linux newbie02:05
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Dr_willisconsidering how its basicially the same + lots of polish/tweaks to make things work.. :)  he needs to just try it and see.02:07
Bosonatorla02:07
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: back!02:10
rkaprowswow.. well aparently xing out doesnt close konversation im still logged in from lunchtime02:10
DaSkreechrkaprows: Yeah I know try Ctrl+Q02:11
rkaprowshey is there any way anyone knows of to rebind the search shortcut in linux firefox from ctrl j to ctrl e like windows02:12
coreymon77exactly02:12
coreymon77a bunch of polishes and tweaks to make things work02:12
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coreymon77thats what im trying to tell him02:12
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Dr_willisubuntu/kubuntu has been the best disrto out of a dozen or so ive tried on my laptop also.02:13
rkaprowsas in the only distrobution that actualy is somewhat comprehensible to a newbie?02:14
coreymon77me too02:14
coreymon77ive tried so many you wouldnt believe02:14
coreymon77kubuntu is the one i like and works well02:14
LeeJunFanHow can I take a bunch of home videos (mostly AVI) and burn them to DVD as a DVD, not svcd or emovix, etc... ?02:14
rkaprowsif you want an exciting experience try installing slackware as your first ever linux experience02:14
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Dr_willisLeeJunFan,  that book 'ubuntu hacks' mentioned how to do it.. but ive never done so.. there may be some guides/wiki pages  on the forums or wiki.02:16
rkaprowsactualy though the edgy package is quite polished,, a real step up from my last attempt at kubuntu02:16
Dr_willisit was  not a 4 clicks and its done sort of thing. :)02:16
DaSkreechI would bet k3b though02:16
Marck00aigl in kubuntu exist?02:16
Dr_willisLast i looked k3b dident convert video.02:16
Dr_willishttp://tovid.org - is what the "ubuntu hacks" books suggests02:17
rkaprowsis it possible im somehow missing some peoples replies in here.. it seems like im only seing one side of the conversation02:18
LeeJunFanDr_willis: figures. That's what I was afraid of. I've done it with transcode, but it was a pita. I was hoping that in the last few years something would have filled that gap.02:18
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Dr_willisLeeJunFan,  the process seems simple enough.. :) but in the book they take 4 pages to detail it.02:18
Dr_willisheh02:18
LeeJunFanDr_willis: I can make vob's with ffmpeg but not the other files. haha02:19
Marck00:S02:19
Marck00any speak spanish?02:19
DaSkreech!es | Marck0002:19
ubotuMarck00: Para Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.02:19
Dr_willisthey seem to use 'dvdauthor' for that stuff also LeeJunFan02:19
cpk1LeeJunFan: actually kmediafactory should do it for you02:19
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DaSkreechrkaprows: Like which half?02:19
Marck00ooh02:19
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Marck00thx02:19
flakehow do i change themes using emerald?02:20
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flakei run the settings and click a theme, click refresh or import, nothing happens02:20
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flakeall the help i can seem to find is on installation, not application02:20
cpk1LeeJunFan: i used kmediafactory and it worked like a charm, only bummer about it is that you cant choose from very many layouts02:20
LeeJunFancpk1: thanks, I'll look at that too.02:20
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cpk1LeeJunFan: i believe its already installed?02:21
DaSkreechFlake Just clikc on teh theme02:21
DaSkreechTHat should be enough02:21
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cpk1LeeJunFan: and my experience with qdvdauthor is that it had problems when the ratio wasnt exactly correct02:21
flakeit's not updating in real time02:22
flakedoes beryl need to be running?02:22
PirigeI'm running into a weird problem. Its actually more of an annoyance.02:22
zeeohey how can i mount a bin and cue file02:22
PirigeEverytime I open kopete kmail starts up02:22
DaSkreechflake: I would guess so02:22
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PirigeI tried looking through both kmail and kopetes configuration, but I can't seem to figure it out.02:23
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bLaZeDcould anyone tell me how i get the uuid of a drive....im looking to add a entry to my fstab according to the uuid...but forget how to get it02:23
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rkaprowscan anyone tell me the command for specifying how much video ram i have with the nvidia drivers in xorg.conf?02:23
klerfaythow do make so that text files are opened in konqueror instead of kate?02:23
Jucato!UUID | bLaZeD02:24
ubotubLaZeD: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in the terminal: "blkid"02:24
Jucatoklerfayt: try File Associations in Konqueror's Configure settings02:24
Telroth_Plushie|if i have a .tar.gz of source, can someone show me how to compile it into a .deb for my system?02:24
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Jucato!compile | Telroth_Plushie|02:25
ubotuTelroth_Plushie|: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)02:25
PirigeblaZeD: try reading the man page for dumpe2fs02:25
bLaZeDhmm can i add entrys to the fstab on dapper?02:25
DaSkreechTelroth_Plushie|: What pacakge?02:25
bLaZeD*entrys with the uuid02:25
Telroth_Plushie|DaSkreech, the Logitech G15 drivers.02:25
PirigebLaZeD: I don't see why not02:25
bLaZeDPirige, well in edgy the fstab was diff02:26
JucatobLaZeD: but why use uuid in Dapper?02:26
Telroth_Plushie|DaSkreech, They aren't in edgy yet, and I'm tired of my $70 keyboard only as functional as a $5 one. :)02:26
PirigeThey switched to the UUID02:26
coreymon77what repos arent enabled?02:26
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bLaZeDJucato, i found it easier to use the uuid so i never had to change the /dev/sd*02:26
Jucatocoreymon77: backports aren't enabled initially, and multiverse isn't included initially02:26
tanlaan_what is the key combo that allows you to switch from desktop to desktop?02:27
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JucatobLaZeD: that's one of the reasons UUID was used in Edgy, so yes I guess you could use that in Dapper, too02:27
Jucatotanlaan_: Ctrl-F1-F4 (if you have 4 desktops) you can check in Keyboard Shortcuts02:27
klerfaytJucato: I would imagine that it begins with kampart?02:27
tanlaan_Jucato: thank you :D02:27
bLaZeDare either of u in edgy......the fstabd doesnt have a entry i can copy from...could one of u pastebin a example if u are on edgy02:28
wildchildare any krita tutorials for newbies?02:28
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JucatobLaZeD: I'm on Edgy. basically the line is just the same except for the /dev/sd* part which becomes UUID=02:28
PirigeYou can still use the old method in edgy02:29
bLaZeDJucato, ahh k cool02:29
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Pirigethe UUID is a convience02:29
Pirigeor inconvience if you are not used to it02:29
thompai cant get my printer to work anymore, its now stuck on pause02:29
bLaZeDso UUID=2983ej2938ej ...yada yada02:29
JucatobLaZeD: just be careful. I think UUID's change if you reformat a partition02:29
Jucatoyep02:29
PirigeYou can generate new UUIDs as well02:30
bLaZeDJucato, its for my ipod and pendrive...which i dont plan on formating02:30
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Jucatoehehe. just remember the blkid command :)02:30
bLaZeDhehe02:30
Jucatosome other commands "sudo vol_id -u /dev/xxx" gives you the UUID of a specific /dev02:31
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thompaif i try to remove libcupssys2 everything else goes with it, I think the problem is with cups though02:31
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thompaive tried restarting it also, its stuck on pause02:31
Omnifroglol, i need to post this on this jack ass RIAA President Decries Fair Use02:32
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Omnifrogerr02:32
Omnifrognm, wrong roon02:32
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FjosHi! I am running Kubuntu. Can you help me find out WHEN it was installed? I only know it's been a long time. it's becoming a bit unstable, and Kicker hangs every time I shut it down.02:33
thompawhat do i need to print besiades cups?02:33
wildchildhow can I update my krita to krita 1.6 with edgy02:33
Telroth_Plushie|Fjos, have you updated?02:34
ruisuhi :) does somebody knows why localhost doesnot exists? I mean, i cant conect to it by firefox02:34
Pirigeruisu: why would you connect to localhost in the first place?02:34
FjosIt is updated many times. But I am not interested in my version number, but the date it was installed from CD.02:34
Telroth_Plushie|ruisu, are you running a webserver? (like apache)02:35
ruisuum, trying to get apache?02:35
ruisuyeah :P02:35
ruisuwell02:35
Pirigethat makes more sense02:35
ruisuI'm trying to make my computer to run php from my docs02:35
ruisui installed phpmyadmin02:35
Telroth_Plushie|Fjos,  if you've updated the install date from cd is rather irrelevent, as update replaces most files on the system (assuming the install wasn't too recent)02:35
ruisui dont have any idea to do next XD02:36
LeeJunFanDr_willis, cpk1: trying devede right now for creating the DVD from AVI's seems it'll do everything I want it to - point and click.02:36
Telroth_Plushie|ruisu, did you set up mysql?02:36
ruisunope, not yet02:36
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LeeJunFanI'll probably try the other methods after to see what I like better though.02:36
Telroth_Plushie|phplyadmin is an administrative tool for mysql servers02:36
Telroth_Plushie|i.e. database viewing/editing02:36
ruisumhm...02:36
seishinbyouGood morning02:36
FjosIf I was going to buy a Linux-compatible laptop, what would be a good idea?02:36
ruisuyes, ive used it from some web pages i had02:37
Telroth_Plushie|it won't work without mysql is what i'm saying02:37
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Telroth_Plushie|so you need to install that next02:37
ruisuoh ok :P02:37
Telroth_Plushie|and install mysql-admin while you're at it02:37
Telroth_Plushie|it's a gui client that works a lot better/faster than phpmyadmin02:37
Telroth_Plushie|and allows you to do more02:38
Telroth_Plushie|other than that02:38
Telroth_Plushie|if you've installed apache and it's running02:38
Telroth_Plushie|stick files in ~/public_html02:38
Telroth_Plushie|and then access them at http://localhost/~yourusername/02:38
coreymon77what in the?02:39
ruisuso i should install mysql-server?02:39
coreymon77why is shippitonly for dapper?02:39
campbchi have a gateway mx6650 and have had absolutely no problems with the hardware aspect02:39
DaSkreechseishinbyou: How's it going?02:39
campbchdon't ask me about software02:40
thompadoes anyone know how to setup a printer, im running out of ink for text pages soon02:40
seishinbyouDaSkreech: One nasty cold from my coworkers02:40
DaSkreechUgh.02:40
ruisuhaah 33mb dwnload, 90mb install XD02:40
Telroth_Plushie|ruisu, isn't compression awesome?02:41
ruisutotally :D02:41
ruisuwhen gui for linux is completly done, it will blow M$ for sure ;)02:42
Telroth_Plushie|huh?02:42
Telroth_Plushie|it doesn't already?02:42
DaSkreechruisu: New to open source eh?02:42
Telroth_Plushie|have you seen the compix/berly demos?02:42
Telroth_Plushie|&beryl02:42
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ruisuwhen gui's dont have problems, or bugs and stuff, it will blow up Microsucks for sure ;) like, installing hehehe02:42
Telroth_Plushie|*beryl02:42
Telroth_Plushie|never had a problem with mine02:43
Telroth_Plushie|now i can't speak for everyone02:43
Telroth_Plushie|but i've had less trouble with linux than windows when it comes to graphics02:43
Telroth_Plushie|and the graphics own anything vista has02:43
ruisuhehe no completly new, but its the first time i install a linux distro with a gui version and had a bug :P02:43
Telroth_Plushie|oh?02:43
Telroth_Plushie|bug with what?02:43
ruisuyes, vista is getting close to newer linux :)02:44
ruisuumm02:44
DaSkreechruisu: Well you reffered to a Open source project and said when it's done02:44
DaSkreechX-D02:44
Telroth_Plushie|hahaha02:44
Telroth_Plushie|ruisu, no vista isn't02:44
ruisuubiquity, when selecting reiserfs, i could format , there where other fs, but no reiserfs, and when selecting t install it claimed that there where no ? (root) filsystem, but there was02:45
wildchildis there a way to update krita from 1.5 to 1.6 or I have to install package by sudo apt-get install krita ??02:45
ruisuokok :P02:45
DaSkreechwildchild: You are on Edgy?02:45
Telroth_Plushie|vista only really has hardware accellerated gui framework, 1 (one) theme, and requires a cray super computer to run02:45
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ruisuyey :) 90% downloaded :)02:45
wildchildDaSkreech: yes02:45
ruisuhaha true true02:45
DaSkreechTelroth_Plushie|: It doesn't :-P02:46
CraZy675what is the kubuntu way of changing your host file?02:46
flaccidmax number primary partitions is 4 on a disk right?02:46
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DaSkreechwhat version is installed?02:46
ruisuright02:46
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Telroth_Plushie|X.org + beryl runs on my $20 nv5200fx with 768mb ram and a p4 2.66ghz proc, smooth and seamless.02:46
wildchildDaSkreech: 1.5.202:46
DaSkreechWhen did 1.6 come out?02:46
Telroth_Plushie|with wobbly windows, transparency, 3d cube02:46
wildchildDaSkreech: on the Novemer firs02:46
wildchildt02:46
ruisuok, mysqladmin done ;)02:47
DaSkreechCraZy675: kdesu kate /etc/hosts02:47
DaSkreechflaccid: Yes02:47
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CraZy675DaSkreech: thanks02:47
DaSkreechwildchild: check getdeb.net I guess02:47
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Telroth_Plushie|DaSkreech, krita 1.6 isn't in edgy repos02:48
DaSkreechI know I just confirmed that02:48
Telroth_Plushie|anyone here running feisty?02:48
wildchildTelroth_Plushie|: how can I install it02:48
Telroth_Plushie|wildchild, download source, compile, install.02:48
DaSkreechTelroth_Plushie|: That would be #ubuntu+102:48
Telroth_Plushie|though that is a mess if you haven't done it before02:48
DaSkreechwildchild: have you tried the koffice repos?02:49
wildchildTelroth_Plushie|: I didn.t02:49
wildchildDaSkreech: nop02:49
DaSkreechtry those02:49
DaSkreechhttp://www.kubuntu.org02:49
DaSkreechthey keep up to date with Koffice which Krita is a part of02:50
thompai can run through the steps for installing HP lasejet, but at apply there is no printer icon comes up02:50
CraZy675now that I've edited my hosts do I have to reboot or is there an easier way?02:50
DaSkreechCraZy675:  I think you shoudl be good02:50
DaSkreechCorrect Jucato?02:51
Jucatoyep02:51
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CraZy675I'm not good02:51
ruisuTelroth_Plushie| , im running mysql-amin02:51
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CraZy675restart firefox maybe02:51
Jucatoof course, if Krita is the only KOffice app installed, it should be the only one to be updated. no need to install the whole KOffice suite02:51
ruisuTelroth_Plushie| , ive configured a new conection to localhost02:51
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CraZy675blah I'll reboot02:52
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DaSkreechBut the koffice repos should have krita 1.6 ?02:52
ruisuTelroth_Plushie| , username and password cloul be anithing? or my current xorg user?02:53
Jucatoyes it does02:53
thompahmmm, im thinking maybe problem printing is from web02:54
thompafirefox cuts off , print preview is not same02:54
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DaSkreechseishinbyou: still hacking on the PS3?02:55
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wildchildDaSkreetch: ould not connect to bolugftp.uni-bonn.de:21 (131.220.16.1), connection timed out this is when I update02:56
seishinbyouDaSkreech: No time last night; if I can get out at a decent time today, I'll try some more02:56
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wildchildDaSkreech: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31579/02:57
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DaSkreechwildchild: Umm could be down? try again in a minute02:59
wildchildk02:59
wildchildafter it upgrades02:59
coreymon77how do you install while using a live cd03:00
coreymon77without deleting your home directory03:00
smaggard_if your /home is its own partition, just choose not to format /home03:01
ruisumysql-admin is taking soo long03:01
coreymon77whats the command to install from a live cd03:01
coreymon77while running kubuntu03:01
[Relic] mine doesn't and I can't find anything to repartiotin the drive03:01
smaggard_double click the installer03:01
coreymon77o03:01
hollywoodbcoreymon77: there's a installer icon on the desktop03:01
coreymon77im not using a live cd right now, i have edgy already03:01
smaggard_kubuntu has an icon03:01
coreymon77this is for my friend03:01
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coreymon77thats why i asked03:02
coreymon77hes downloading the iso03:02
coreymon77and will internet work while using the live cd?03:02
smaggard_yes internet works03:02
smaggard_well most of the time, depends on your hardware03:03
wildchildhm, does anyone user here krita03:03
wildchildand if he/she knows for any tutorials03:03
wildchildo_O03:03
wildchilduser=uses03:03
wildchilduser=use*03:04
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Admiral_Chicagocoreymon77: what home directory?03:04
thompadoes anyone know why adobe 7 , not print anything03:04
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coreymon77 /home03:04
thompapdf viewer prints though03:05
smaggard_i dont use krita really03:05
thompai blame adobe for all my printing woes03:06
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mchonishi, i'm running kubuntu 6.06, and I'm having trouble opening adept, whenever I try and open it, I get a message that says "Database Locked - Adept Installer: Another process is using the packaging system database. Please close the other application before using this one." help03:07
ruisuoh03:07
ruisuiv seen this03:07
ruisuumm03:07
flaccidi just installed windows on spare space on my disk which override the grub on the mbr. how can i restore grub/mbr?03:07
mchonisI've tried rebooting and trying to open adept as soon as I log in, but I still get the error message.03:08
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mchonishow do I find out what process is using the packaging system database, and how do I stop it.03:09
ruisumchonis, sudo dpkg --configure -a03:09
Telroth_Plushie|mchonis,03:09
bimberiflaccid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows03:09
Telroth_Plushie|sudo rm /var/lock/dpkg i think03:09
ruisutoo03:09
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ruisubut, i bet it ocked becuase it exited when installing packagess>03:09
ruisu??03:09
ruisulocked*03:09
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thompafirefox is messed up, at least for printing anything03:10
mchonisran ___ this is what it said "03:10
mchonisSetting up libltdl3 (1.5.22-2) ...03:10
mchonisSetting up odbcinst1debian1 (2.2.11-11build1) ...03:10
mchonisSetting up unixodbc (2.2.11-11build1) ...03:10
ruisuTelroth_Plushie|, ok, ive installed mysql-admin03:10
mchonisi did what ruisu said03:10
flaccidthanks bimberi03:10
mchoniswhat does that mean?03:11
ruisuTelroth_Plushie|, now, ive conected to localhost , what do I do next?03:11
Telroth_Plushie|set a password for the root user03:11
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Telroth_Plushie|then follow the phpmyadmin instructions.03:11
mchonisI can get into adept now.. thanks 4 the help03:12
ruisumchonis, it happened to me once, i was installing and when configuring i had to select something in a text mode(showing the details) and i could not select "acept" so i quited ademt, and i could not start again, because of that lock03:12
mchonisso if I'm installing something I should not quit adept untill it's done03:13
Telroth_Plushie|bingo03:13
Telroth_Plushie|mchonis,03:13
ruisuah XD, when selecting usrs , the program locks itself03:13
Telroth_Plushie|what ruisu's command was telling the system to finish installing packages where it left off03:13
ruisumhm03:13
DaSkreechmchonis: Right03:13
Telroth_Plushie|ruisu, yes.03:13
mchonisgotcha.. i'll try harder not too... last time I used adept the battery on my laptop crapped out03:13
Telroth_Plushie|ruisu, go to the mysql website and download the binary from there03:14
Telroth_Plushie|ruisu, that one doesn't lock up03:14
DaSkreechmchonis: It's ok just remember that command03:14
DaSkreechmchonis: Might want to write it down :)03:14
ruisuok03:14
campbchhas anyone here been able to compile 3d.c for the 3dworld plugin in beryl/compiz?03:14
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seishinbyoumy job is so weird sometimes03:15
campbchive got all the devs, but it keeps saying crazy errors03:15
Telroth_Plushie|campbch, 3dworld?03:15
campbchyes03:15
Telroth_Plushie|linky?03:15
campbchone sec...03:15
DaSkreechseishinbyou: Why/03:15
ruisuTelroth_Plushie|, mysql cluster?03:15
seishinbyouDaSkreech: We have a local box here, but since our developers are always on the move, a portable development environment is a godsend03:16
charlie5hi folks ... is ther a way to prevent backup files (xyz.txt~) from being displayed on the Desktop ?03:16
campbchhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/EXMg2U88.html03:17
campbchhide them?03:17
campbchrename to .xyz.txt~ work? i havent tried03:18
klerfaytcharlie5: I believe not03:18
Telroth_Plushie|charlie5, tell yoru editor to not create them?03:19
Telroth_Plushie|better yet03:19
Telroth_Plushie|for kate/kwrite/kedit03:19
Telroth_Plushie|options -> open/save -> backup -> prefix -> set to "."03:20
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Telroth_Plushie|then the files are made, but they won't show03:20
seishinbyouIf you are weird, you could write a script that searches for the ...~ files on your desktop and deletes them...and execute the things regularly with a cron script03:20
T3hWiz0rd!beryl03:20
ubotuBeryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl03:20
T3hWiz0rd!xgl03:20
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems03:20
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Telroth_Plushie|you can also tell them to not create backup files at all03:20
Telroth_Plushie|so choose your solution :)03:20
seishinbyouYeah, but anything worth doing is worth overdoing03:21
Telroth_Plushie|i know.03:21
campbchtelroth, any idea why 3d.c isn't compiling?03:21
seishinbyoubut I'm weird that way...it's all "Enterprisey"...and I love ticking off management by referring to any bloated solution as "Enterprisey"03:21
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Telroth_Plushie|i could just have it delete all files every 5 minutes, but i'm overdoing it and having it delete them instantly!03:21
seishinbyouYes, but now you should create a log of the files deleted, when, and keep the contents of the deleted files in an archived folder :)03:22
ruisuok gbye03:22
ruisuneed to do homework XD03:22
ruisugood nite to everyone :)03:22
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Telroth_Plushie|campbch, looks like you caught a file in-between edits. using cvs source?03:23
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campbchno, svn03:23
Telroth_Plushie|same thing03:23
Telroth_Plushie|:P03:23
campbch:o03:23
Telroth_Plushie|wait a few days03:23
charlie5thanks guys03:23
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Telroth_Plushie|(not literally same thing, but more or less the most up-to-date you can get)03:23
Telroth_Plushie|wait a few days and try again03:24
charlie5Telroth_Plushie|: chnaging backup names '.' prefix sounds best, thanks03:24
Telroth_Plushie|yw03:24
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campbchis there a reason my text will randomly paste into whatever im typing?03:27
seishinbyoumiddle mouse button?03:27
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campbchim not touching the mouse03:27
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stodgeHi - anyone else having a problem mounting a floppy drive in kubunty edgy?03:32
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T3hWiz0rdhow can i change what resolution kubuntu uses in my TTY windows?03:33
stodgeOr does anyone know what device a floppy drive is?03:34
T3hWiz0rdanyone on that?03:34
seishinbyouFloppy drive?  I was hoping that era would draw to a close already03:34
stodgeNope still there03:34
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stodgeNever mind - kubuntu had setup the device for the floppy drive in /etc/fstab as /dev instead of /dev/fd003:35
seishinbyouI wish I could help, but I haven't seen a floppy drive in a PC here for years now except for sale separately with lots of multicard readers built in as well03:35
stodgeSo two major bugs for me now03:35
Admiral_Chicagocan someone point me toward a Boot CD, i hosed my partitons and linux live CDs won't boot03:35
Telroth_Plushie|kubuntu.org ?03:36
Telroth_Plushie|downloads -> live cd ?03:36
T3hWiz0rdTelroth_Plushie|: the install CD is the live CD03:36
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campbchthat shouldnt change anything if it's set to boot from cd, would it?03:37
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: What happens when they try to boot?03:37
T3hWiz0rdcampbch: depends, it could set linux into errors if its trying to mount fusskered drives03:37
Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: grub won't boot, the linux partion with grub was deleted from the windows pratiton03:38
wildchild!seen hawkwind03:38
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ubotuHawkwind is on IRC right now!03:38
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: Why won't live CDs work?03:38
Hawkwindwildchild: Can I help you ?03:38
wildchildnothing, just enjoy watchig prison break :P03:39
Admiral_Chicagobecause they stall at a point. i tried03:39
thompais there some way to fix the pdf print settings so my page is not cut off?03:39
wildchildHawkwind: after is progress done :P03:39
Hawkwindwildchild: Huh ?03:39
wildchildHawkwind, we r the only one there using KTorrents :P03:40
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Hawkwindwildchild: You're on ScT ?03:40
wildchildcheck the leecheres :P03:41
wildchildI was wondering how many ppl uses KTorrent  there and that's how I found u..03:41
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Hawkwindwildchild: Hah, that's kewl.  I never look at those things03:41
Hawkwindwildchild: I've watched it already.  I just download them and burn them to DVD since I love the show03:42
Jucatolol03:42
teledyn_why in god's name is ctrl-s  BOTH save and find in KDE apps?  wtf is wrong with ctrl-f for find???03:42
wildchildHawkwind: ru form france?03:42
wildchildfrom*03:42
Hawkwindwildchild: No, I'm in the USA03:43
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wildchildthat makes sence03:43
wildchildeither from usa or france..03:43
teledyn_maybe because the german word for "find" is Suchen?03:43
DaSkreechMaybe :)03:43
Jucatoteledyn_: Ctrl+S is only Save here for me.what app?03:43
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teledyn_Jucato: kate03:44
Jucatoit's Save here. you can modify the shortcuts anyway03:44
Hawkwindwildchild: You on feedthe.net by chance ?03:44
teledyn_still, just because Suchen and Speichern both begin with S in german, why mess up the english keybindings?03:44
Jucatoteledyn_: ask your KDE i18n team...03:44
wildchildHawkwind: nop, but I am no IRCNET, after-all and ScT servers03:45
Hawkwindwildchild: PM real quick03:45
teledyn_Jucato: under File and Edit menus both are listed as Ctrl-S.  when i press it, it gives a little popup to select which one i want03:45
wildchildHawkwind just a sec to rename03:45
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teledyn_Jucato: ah yes i found the Keyboard Shortcuts section in Control Center.03:47
Jucatoteledyn_: it might or might not be a global KDE setting. Kate has its own keyboard shortcuts03:48
teledyn_Jucato: oddly, when i reassigned find to ctrl-f is now says "default"   earlier it said "custom" when ctrl-s was set03:48
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Jucatoteledyn_: Kate -> Settings -> Configure Shortcuts...03:48
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teledyn_Jucato: its under "Application Shortcuts"03:48
brettWill someone help me debug my sound settings?03:49
Jucatoteledyn_: that, too. although that does control global KDE settings.03:49
Jucatowhich is what you want, I presume?03:49
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brettMy sound was working earlier today and now for some reason it is not working at all. Can someone help me pleaseL03:51
teledyn_Jucato: yeah oddly the default in Kate is Ctrl-S for find, which is different than the global one03:51
DaSkreech!sound03:51
ubotuIf you're having problems with sound, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems and http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin03:51
brettDaSkreech: Thanks03:51
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[Relic] fresh install  :)03:52
thompaanybody using adobe 7 and printing, hello?03:52
thompaor is it not allowed to print in linux03:52
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Dr_willisThe acrobat reader program?03:56
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thompaDr_willis: yes03:56
Dr_willisIts printed for me befor.03:56
Dr_willisnot sure if ive tried it lately. :P03:57
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thompai had a heck of a time setting up HP 1018 laserjet, not it works and i used the ppd file for adobe, kpdf prints fine03:57
Dr_willisnot tried it on edgy it seems. since its not installed.. lets installit and see.03:58
thompaDr_willis: cool03:58
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Dr_willis:) now to find a little pdf file03:58
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thompait looks real good anyway03:58
thompaDr_willis: btw, when i tpye that apt command it says a ton of packages no longer required03:59
thompalike everything kde and says to 'apt-get autoremove'04:00
Jucatois there something wrong with frames in KWord 1.6? I can't seem to drag/resize frames, so I can't follow the tutorial...04:01
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Dr_willisthompa,  you got some apt-get cleaning to do then it seems :)04:02
Dr_willisgettting a pdf file from   http://incompetech.com/beta/hexagonalGraphPaper/triangle.html04:02
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Dr_williswell cant find the acroread icon,,, or command.. heh..04:04
Dr_willisdoh - it aint installed yet.. :)04:04
thompalet me try that04:04
Dr_willisslow downloading04:04
Dr_willisacroread 7.0.8-0.0.ubuntu2 [22.9MB] 04:04
Dr_willisgesh04:04
thompai was using firefox04:04
Dr_willisi dident isntall the firefox-acroread plugin.04:05
Dr_willisi perfer pdf's to not show up in the browser. :)04:05
thompaneverming, i downloaded a pdf , open it with adobe and it wont print04:05
cpk1isnt there a kpdf?04:05
seishinbyouOh, that tune2fs command worked like a charm; my manager's PC no longer does the disk check every 30 boots04:06
thompakpdf works fine04:06
Dr_williskpdf, and evince,04:06
Dr_willisnot sure of others.04:06
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Dr_willisseishinbyou,  makeit check EVERY boot.04:06
Dr_willis:)04:06
cpk1so err why bother using adobe if kpdf works fine?04:06
Dr_willis30 boots sould be about once every month. Heh.04:06
Dr_willisor less..04:06
seishinbyouYeah, if I want to lose my job, maybe... well, if I ever become distraught with my job...04:06
seishinbyouFor my manager, 30 boots is like 4 days04:07
Dr_willisIf his data is that imporntant.. i think checking the data is a good idea. :)04:07
cpk1the last time i rebooted my uptime was around 20 days04:07
Dr_willisI had a month uptime on my fileserver... then the power went out.04:07
Dr_willis:(04:07
cpk1so at that rate i would check every year (2 reboots a month)04:08
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seishinbyouDr_willis: That "check" caused lost data and he no longer trusts it (in reality, it reported errors, and the "fix" destroyed his data)04:08
cpk1well if its in a bad sector...04:08
archangel_hey you think that I can run ultra memory with my samsung ?  both ddr 320004:09
seishinbyouThe point was that everything was working (he also had backups), and this auto-check and "fix" causes his system to die, and he wasn't a happy man that day04:09
thompaDr_willis: i downloaded http://www.longman.com/adult/pdf/eday_activ.pdf04:09
thompaand trying to print in adobe, nothing happens04:09
cpk1i thought it moved bad data to lost&found?04:09
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seishinbyouHim doing it at his own leisure suits him fine, which is never in his case04:10
brettDaSkreech: I went to the sound page and found my sound card... now it is telling me to try the options with this command: echo options [module-name]  [module-options]  >> /etc/modprobe.d/[module-name]  .. how do you figure out what to put under options?04:10
archangel_?04:11
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thompaDr_willis: i think i may just use kpdf,04:12
brettDaSkreech: are you there?04:13
thompagnome pdf viewer works fine too, I dont trust adobe anyway04:13
brettCan someone help me understand this trouble shooter: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems ?04:14
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thompabrett: what you need04:18
brettthompa: I am running through this trouble shooter https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSoundProblems04:20
thompaok04:20
brettand the fifth command down (fifth yellow box down) asks for module options04:21
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thompawhats your trouble04:21
brettthey ask you to type echo options [module-name]  [module-options]  ect04:21
brettand it does not specify what to type there04:21
bretti do not know what the options is supposed to be04:22
thompabrett: try the simple stuff first04:22
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brettthompa: I dont understand04:23
brettthompa: you mean type nothing there?04:23
thompasorry, whats your sound problem?04:23
bretti do not have any sound04:24
bretti did earlier today but now it is gone04:24
bretti have been playing with my video settings since then04:24
thompawhats in system settings: sound system?04:24
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thompaunder hardware04:25
brettit has autodetect selected04:25
thompachange it to alsa. it will restart, test it, the go back to auto04:25
brettdid not work04:26
DaSkreechbrett: Kinda04:26
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brettDaSkreech: i sent that message twenty minutes ago04:27
DaSkreechbrett: I know sorry04:27
DaSkreech brett Hat options are you talking abou?04:27
thompabrett: whats in kinfo center for sound04:27
brettDaSkreech: np... thompa is trying to help me now04:27
DaSkreechok :-)04:28
thompasystem: kinfocenter04:28
brettthompa: kinfo? where is that04:28
thompabrett: there it lists card and driver04:28
brettthompa: ok found kinfo04:29
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brettthompa: do you want me to paste everything in kinfo?04:29
thompano wahts in card:04:29
thompa*whats card:04:30
brettCard Config.... SB Live 5.104:30
thompainstalled drivers?04:30
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brettVIA 8237 mihd CMI976104:30
brettInstalled Drivers....04:30
brettType 10:ALSO emulation04:30
bretterr04:30
brettALSA emulation04:30
thompabrett: good04:31
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thompabrett: are your kmixer settings all up04:31
bretti have two lines under Mixers04:32
brettif that is what you mean04:32
brett0: eMicro04:32
brettand04:32
brett1: C-Media04:32
thompago to multimedia: kmixer in menu04:32
thompaturn everything up04:32
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brettsome where down04:33
brettlet me retry sound04:33
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brettnope04:34
thompago back to system settings: sound one more time04:34
brettstill nothing04:35
thompabrett: in hardware do alsa, then go back to auto04:35
thompabrett: is it restarting04:36
thompaand in general try . test sound then04:36
brettit is restarting but still no sound04:36
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thompawhat was it you configured before it stopped working04:37
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brettxorg.conf04:38
bretti changed that many times and rebooted several times04:38
brettbut i ended up changing it back to its original contents04:38
thompathats not the problem04:39
brettyeah... i didnt see any sound stuff in there04:39
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thompaopen terminal, type "sudo totem" try playing something04:39
bretttotem command not found.04:40
brettwhat is totem?04:40
thompabrett: lastly, if that dont work try running command "alsamixer"04:40
cpk1kubuntu doesnt come with totem04:40
thompaoh04:40
cpk1thats a gnome app04:40
thompaok04:40
thompabrett: do alsamixer04:41
bretti am running that04:41
bretti dont know what to do though04:41
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thompaarrow keys, up arrows etc04:41
cpk1try alsaplayer soundfilehere if you want to see if you can play something04:41
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brettcpk1: how?04:42
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thompai used to run alsaconfig but dont see that now04:42
cpk1oh never mind there isnt a alsaplayer04:43
thompaheh04:44
thompabrett: eh, speakers plugged in and all that04:44
cpk1sorry use play soundfilehere04:45
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brettthompa: i assume so... nothing should of been moved since they last worked but i guess i should check04:45
tobias_will adept upgrade my flash player, or must I?04:46
brettthompa: plugged in ok04:46
cpk1well considering that i am pretty sure flash 9 is still beta you probably need to =)04:46
thompabrett: can you see sounnd output like cd playing04:46
tobias_oki:)04:46
cpk1brett: what does play somerandomsoundfile say?04:46
brettthompa: i dont know04:46
bretti do not have any sound files laying around04:47
thompaput in a cd04:47
bretti have be using you tube04:47
brettok04:47
brettcd is a good idea04:47
moglii want to play chess ... but this version dont have it :S ... grrr .... were can i  find it ?04:47
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thompamogli: knights is installable, worked for me04:47
cpk1mogli: there are several chess games you can download with aptitude04:48
mogliy ... but were do i get knights ...04:48
moglii have use it ... in the slax live version hehe :)04:48
brettit says04:49
brettNo WIN32 codecs found in /usr/lib/win32. You're not able to play Windows Media 9 files, newer Real Media files and some less common formats.04:49
moglibut in kubuntu i dont have it04:49
mogli:(04:49
cpk1mogli: use aptitude!04:49
cpk1!info knights04:49
ubotuknights: A chess interface for the K Desktop Environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6-7.1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 784 kB, installed size 1764 kB04:49
tobias_ooh04:50
thompabrett: you got amarok right04:50
tobias_chess04:50
brettthompa: what is that?04:50
thompais amarok part of kde, cant remember04:50
cpk1brett: you need the codecs to play that04:50
cpk1!codecs04:50
ubotuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats04:50
bretti am seeing the bars move when i play audio04:50
thompawell thats good04:51
bretti am looking through that restricted formats page04:51
mogliaptitude?!04:51
mogliwhats that ...04:51
brettand i am not seeing all the files that they are asking me to install04:51
moglicommand in channel?04:51
thompabrett: i would do everything on that page, even thought its not your immediat problem04:51
bretti think i am missing repositories04:51
thompayou need to enable universe, etc,04:52
thompajust follow page top to bottom04:52
Jucatobrett: you have to manually download the w32codecs .deb package and install it (right-click on it)04:52
brettthompa: i enabled all the repositories that i saw04:52
brettJucato: where can i get that04:52
Jucatothe w32codecs are not in any of the repos04:52
brettthompa: i did04:52
Jucatobrett: the RestrictedFormats page has intructions04:52
Jucatobrett: scroll down to the part about Windows Media04:53
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thompaya but thats not his sound problem right now04:53
Jucatodo note that w32codecs only works on 32-bit machines04:53
Carbon_MonoxideGood day everybody04:53
Jucatoprobably, it does solve the other error message04:53
brettthompa: I think i need to add some repositories to my list04:53
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ostsegood day Carbon_M04:54
Carbon_Monoxide:)04:54
Jucatobrett: "No WIN32 codecs found in /usr/lib/win32. You're not able to play Windows Media 9 files, newer Real Media files and some less common formats." means that you don't have w32codecs installed, which can't be found in any of the official repositories04:55
Jucatobrett: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats#head-6c942d1939d97331f96e42b63774003fde7daed504:55
brettJucato: ok... what do i need to install04:55
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brettJucato: ok i am trying that04:56
brettJucato: thanks,,, hopefully that will work04:56
Carbon_MonoxideIs there any way to disable my pppd running at startup?04:57
Jucatohopefully, unless you have some other sound problems04:57
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Dr_williswow 124 email spams.. and i wonder where they got my email address from..04:58
Carbon_Monoxidethe pppoeconf fails to access eth0 when pppd is on.04:58
thompabrett: your sound not working is another issue, thats for playing cds and stuff04:59
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thompabrett: what version of kubuntu you got?05:00
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thompaDr_willis: hey doc. did the adobe print?05:01
chris123__greets05:01
thompahowdy05:01
chris123__..:)05:02
chris123__anyone here got flash9 running stable on edgy?05:02
brettJucato: it installed but still nothing is working05:02
chris123__at this end it works for a while then dies...05:03
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Jucatobrett: thompa says you have a sound problem. so no matter what codecs you install, if sound doesn't totally work, it won't work05:03
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chris123__any success stories?05:03
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thompawell he needs to do it eventually i guess05:04
Dr_willisthompa,  i never even tried.. got disttated playing GBA games. :)05:04
Jucatodepends on what he needs to do :P05:04
Jucatoyay Pokemon!! :P05:04
thompawhats gba?05:04
JucatoGameboy Advance05:04
thompai play bzflag, im number 1 almost05:04
ostsebrett: for those who joined in late, could you describe your sound problem?05:05
Dr_willisThing prints fine for me thompa05:05
brettsure05:05
Dr_willisgood old reliable networked-enabled-hp-laserjet-6l05:05
brettI do not have any sound... i recently switched from XP to Kubuntu05:05
brettThe sound was working in Kubuntu earlier today05:06
thompaDr_willis: i uninstalled all my cups and pdf stuff, so I may be missing something still05:06
brettand worked fine in windows05:06
bretti was messing with my video settings and went to work05:06
brettnow no sound05:06
thompahp 1018, its got a few problems05:06
thompalike the driver took 2 hours to setup05:07
brettWhen i play sound the bars do move so the computer is reading the sound fine05:07
thompaim still not sure if its working, but the text is sometimes cut at bottom, maybe half paragraph05:07
robotgeekbrett: try restarting your sound system. K->Menu -> System SSettings -> Sound05:07
ostseOK...look in KinfoCenter..Sound,,,and see if entries therein...Sound Card installed drivers etc...05:07
thompahe did that05:07
brettand i did it again05:08
brettostse: there are entries05:08
moglijust one question ... i want to play cs in linux ... what most i do?05:08
thompacheck your speakers are actually working, check bios05:08
brettthompa: how do i do that?05:09
thompais there onboard sound?05:09
brettthompa: i do not know what that is05:09
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thompabrett: i think its f1 or f2, i have 2 cards05:09
thompaone if i diasbale mobo card it always works,05:10
thompaor other way around05:10
brettthompa: you want me to push F1 right now?05:10
thompano05:10
thompawhats the computer you got?05:10
bretthmm05:10
bretti put it together05:11
brettwhat specifically do you want to know about it05:11
thompawhats the motherboard, mine is rip-off05:11
moglii want to play CS what most i do05:11
brettmy motherboard is probably 3 years old... i don't remeber-05:12
thompabrett: did you add the  (a) sound card05:12
brettthompa: yes...it is not an onboard one05:12
brettthompa: oh is that what you meant05:12
brettthompa: is it onboard05:13
thompabrett: i think you can still fix it with systems settings: sound gui05:13
brettthompa: actually i have onboard and a sound card05:13
thompago back there and try different settings05:13
thompaclick apply etc05:13
brettthompa: i had it pluged into the motherboard05:13
thompathen test05:13
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brettYEEAH05:14
brettGreat Success05:14
thompahe05:14
brettIt must of been configured for the sound card not the onboard sound05:14
bretti do not know why it worked earlier05:14
thompayep05:14
brettThank you very much05:14
thompaI have 2 and disable my onboard sound I think,05:15
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thompaso was it pugged into wrong slot? lol05:15
brettyou know for some reason everytime i reinstall windows05:15
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brettone of them works and the other doesnt05:15
brettit alternates05:15
Dasnipa`say whats the command to restart x?05:16
thompaits windows, is the problem then05:16
mogliguys .... what most i do to run games and programs from windows ... with linux instaler05:16
BluesKajbrett  , this may be obvious to you, but did youc heck your kmix settings after upgrading ...they might be set to 4 ch like mine were05:16
Carbon_Monoxidecan anyone tell me how to disable pppd stop running at startup?05:16
brettBluesKaj: what do you mean? i meant when i reinstall windows it does that... this is the first linux os that i have got to work05:17
Carbon_Monoxidedisable pppd running at startup05:17
BluesKajok  brett , i had to run a firmware update on my dvd writer in windows after I updated to edgy...beleive it or not05:18
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thompabrett: i got the same exact problem in windows media center05:18
brettBluesKaj: you had a dual partition?05:18
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thompawindows xp also, so i removed them05:18
brettthompa: really... heh.05:18
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BluesKajyes brett, I still do05:19
thompaim only missing games and one web editor05:19
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brettBluesKaj: and linux messed up your windows config?05:19
BluesKajyeah , brett so it seems05:19
firebird619Where do I go in Kubuntu to get information on the hardware in the computer, specifically the hard drive manufacturer?05:20
Jucatofirebird619: try KInfoCenter05:22
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thompaim running lindvd, its not too bad actually05:23
thompabetter than any windows palyer anyway05:23
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BluesKajI ran Debian in VMware in windows and it totally screwed up my sound card drivers and my DHCP05:23
thompa1440x90005:23
ostseCarbon_M: take a look at this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8949105:23
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firebird619Jucato: I checked in there and didn't see anyting about HDD manufacturer, unless I missed something. Any idea where under KInfoCenter it is?05:24
noxionCan any of you guys please tell how to get konquerer to remember my folder settings?05:24
[Relic] is there an easy way to batch process a ton of apt-gets?  since this is a fresh install and I want to get everything back to where I had it?05:25
thompagets the resolution right godzilla final wars, but couldnt skip intro warnings05:25
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Jucatofirebird619: ah that one, no I don't know. sorry05:25
BluesKajyeah it's called adept :)05:25
thompasony disk i guess05:25
Th3_Cr0up13Rhi guys , i cannot get a flash player for ubuntu05:26
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firebird619Jucato: ok, Thank You05:26
Th3_Cr0up13Raparently there isnt one in the macromedia site05:26
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Th3_Cr0up13Rwhich one do i choose from all those?05:26
Jucato!flash | Th3_Cr0up13R05:26
[Relic] going blind looking at adept because it doesn't take system colors so that really isn't an option05:26
ubotuTh3_Cr0up13R: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:26
Th3_Cr0up13Rhttp://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/alternates/05:26
thompanone of the players for dvd in windows will get the wide screen size right for some reason05:26
noxionAnyone who can take a second and tell me how?05:26
noxionI'm trying to learn :\05:26
BluesKajyou need eye candy when yer working , [Relic]  ?05:27
thompabrett: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats05:27
firebird619Jucato: In doing some exploring, I just found it under System Settings, Advanced, Disks and Filesystems.05:27
[Relic] need to dump the blinding white background05:27
Jucato[Relic] : to make Adept follow your user's color scheme, you need to change root's color scheme by running "kdesu systemsettings"05:28
Jucato(System Settings as root will change root's appearance)05:28
thompais any one running compiz or berly05:29
[Relic] could I make a shell script with a bunch of apt-gets?05:29
thompa!xgl05:30
ubotuCompiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems05:30
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Th3_Cr0up13Rubotu:  i need like an internet flash player05:31
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about i need like an internet flash player - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:31
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BluesKajnever got compiz to work without XGL crashing05:31
brettthompa: i went through that...05:31
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josh_help!05:32
josh_emergency05:33
josh_DeVeDe is only turning my video files into mpg05:33
josh_how do i get it onto a dvd?05:33
josh_it's a school project for my brother05:33
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BluesKajok , once compiz is installed , then what ?05:34
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noxionCan any of you guys tell me how to save my folder view settings in Konq05:36
Dr_willisset them as the default profile perhaps.05:36
josh_yessssss05:36
josh_i figured it out05:36
BluesKajjosh use the .iso setting05:36
josh_ya05:36
noxionHow do i do that?05:36
josh_after it converted05:36
BluesKajbefore05:37
josh_i converted the converted file05:37
josh_then it made an iso05:37
josh_then i burned the iso with k3b05:37
BluesKajyes , that's the way it works05:37
Dr_willissettings -> save view profile05:37
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BluesKajconverts first , then you use k3b05:37
noxionThank you05:37
noxionI appreciate it05:38
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josh_it would be better if it converted then right after burn it to a cd05:38
josh_all in one step05:39
maltaethironanybody know how big the typical backup file is that comes out of keep?05:39
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josh_umm05:40
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josh_it's been "closing disk" for like 3 minutes05:40
josh_is that normal05:41
josh_i'm burning at 2x05:41
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rodolfohello05:41
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maltaethironwooo...anyone?05:42
josh_never min05:43
josh_i'm gonna go test this05:43
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willyalguien de uds me ensea a poner el juego super tux05:44
willyque me muero por jugar05:44
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rodolfowilly consulta en algun lug05:45
kalbohi guys !05:45
kalboabattoir !05:45
willycomo donde05:45
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willyporfa05:45
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willycomo entro al canal en espaol05:47
willyde ubuntu05:47
willyde klubuntu en espaol05:47
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josh_#kubuntu-espagnol05:48
rodolfoeso mismo estoy buscando05:48
robotgeek!es05:48
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.05:48
josh_ah thats the one05:49
maltaethiron!keep05:49
ubotukeep: backup system for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 0.3.0-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 189 kB, installed size 836 kB05:49
rodolfoThanka a lot05:49
josh_#kubuntu-de05:49
rodolfodenmark?05:49
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Rawrness!java05:50
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository05:50
willyestoy ponuiendo esto en consola05:50
willyapt-get install supertux05:50
Rawrness!java905:50
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about java9 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:50
willypero me dice que no tengo candidatos para su instalacion05:50
willyque hago05:51
rodolfota bien05:51
willyalguien me puede ayudar05:51
vermakdewallet isn't accepting my password anymore, is there a way to reset the password for it?05:51
rodolfodbe se r las dir de repositorio05:51
willyrodolfo me puedes ayudas05:51
rodolfobuscalo en la web05:51
vermais it a non-english channel?05:51
willyrodolfo ayudame05:51
rodolfotoy en eso05:51
robotgeekplease keep it in english in here05:51
Rawrnesswhere do i get the beta java from?05:52
rodolfowilly pasa te a kubuntu-es05:52
robotgeeksee #kubuntu-es for spanish05:52
rodolfosorry robotgeek05:52
robotgeekrodolfo: no problemo :)05:52
willycomo05:52
rodolfoim newbie05:53
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robotgeekrodolfo: not an issue, its just that we can't help you :)05:53
vermano way to reset the damn password?05:53
rodolfook im tryng to help a fellow05:53
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robotgeekverma: maybe it is in .kde directory, delete the kde wallet entries?05:54
rodolfowilly anda al cnal #kubuntu-es05:54
vermarobotgeek: alright, let me try that05:54
willyya05:54
vermarobotgeek: nothing in there ...05:55
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josh_i burned a dvd iso but the video was greyscale05:58
josh_the video file is color05:58
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rkaprowscan anyone answer a minor kde question06:00
vermaah .. now it works .. it was in ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet06:01
Hawkwindrkaprows: Just ask your question06:01
robotgeekverma: cool :)06:02
rkaprowswell it's sort of just an odd niggling thing thats just enough to bug me,, but during the logon does anyone notice odd graphical corruption under the bouncing kde logo in kubunu 6.1006:03
rkaprowsie it appears to white out the space under it06:03
HawkwindKnown issue in pretty much every distro06:03
josh_can someone tell my why its black and white06:04
josh_the video06:04
josh_it's a school project06:04
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rkaprowsok good i guess,, well good and bad.  I finaly managed to get the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site to work properly,, at least i think so i was wondering if it was still something there06:04
rkaprowswhich i might add was a royal pain from the perspective of a first time user06:05
HawkwindInstalling Nvidia drivers was a pain ?06:06
rkaprowsthe ones from the nvidia site,, not the simple apt-get nvidia-glx ones06:06
HawkwindNo harder.  I use the ones from nvidia.com and it's one command and you're done06:07
rkaprowswasnt for me, everytime i would load them i kept getting an api mismatch error following an xserver crash06:07
rkaprowsunless theres some easier way to put them on i dont know of06:08
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rkaprowsor maybe it had to do with having the nvidia-glx ones still on there before using the installer package06:09
rkaprowswhich was ultimately the problem06:09
rkaprowsnot removing them completely06:09
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sephrysjoystick in kubuntu?!06:11
abattoirhello dude_06:11
sephryshow is it possible06:11
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rkaprowswhat would you use a joystick for in linux06:13
sephrysmame06:14
sephrysso how do i get it to work?06:14
rkaprowsnot familiar with mame06:14
sephrysneogeo emu06:14
sephrysbut mame does like 15 emus06:14
sephrysif not more06:15
rkaprowscan't answer how to get it to work, i have about a grand total of maybe 10 hours lifetime linux use under my belt06:15
sephrysso where the snap can i get my joystick werkin06:15
sephrysposer06:15
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rkaprowsyou can ask the hardcore linux gurus but they will probably roll their eyes and deem your question beneath their station06:16
sephrysyeah06:16
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rkaprowsthen again. they probably don't know because they don't play games06:17
rkaprowsnecessity being mother of all knowledge yadda yadda06:18
noiesmosephrys, I don't know the answer to your Q but does kde system settings detect your jopystick06:18
noiesmojopystick/joystick06:18
noiesmosephrys, I do use mame and I know its possible to use joystick but havent tried06:19
rkaprowsim going to guess this mame emulator has the joystick support built into itself06:19
noiesmothere are settings for it you config thru the games interface06:20
rkaprowsdoes the emulator have a howto file that may be a good place to start06:20
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rkaprowswell the faq for the program is pretty vague.. just says yes joysticks work06:23
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dbgltthis is getting insane06:31
Chi_0hello all06:31
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dbgltsomething keeps overwriting my resolv.conf06:31
dbgltbut I have no idea what...06:31
dbgltis there anyway to find out what is + stopping it (short of making resolv.conf -w?)06:31
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Chi_0can any one help me w/ my ati install06:32
dbgltChi_0: might try #ati06:34
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Chi_0I did the chat is dead :(06:35
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Chi_0that is what i used but, I am having probs06:37
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UTENTEhello06:42
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UTENTEim trying to burn the amd 64 version of kubuntu but every time gives me a error even whit different cd's and nero imgburn can u tell me why?06:42
abattoirUTENTE: what error does it give?06:43
UTENTEwhen the cd is done on the cd check06:43
UTENTEdoes the cd but fails to pass the cd write verify06:44
UTENTEcan u tell me what's the problem aba?06:44
JucatoUTENTE: have you tried checking the md5sum of the image you downloaded?06:44
Jucato!md5sum06:45
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UTENTEi installed that program but don't know how to make it work06:45
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redphoenixholy crap I finally got Edgy to work06:47
UTENTEis there a way to che whit Mark Shuttleworth does he ever connect to the ubuntu kubuntu official chans?06:47
Jucatoprobably, but not in the user support channels.06:47
UTENTEdid u have the same problem as me when making the boot cd red ?06:47
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UTENTEid love to meet him once where does he connect jucato=?06:47
smaggard__hey folks06:47
Jucatodunno06:47
redphoenixUTENTE, it would only boot to console06:48
redphoenixalso had problems with packages, still have 34 packages that refuse to upgrade06:48
redphoenixbut anyway, turned out it was only booting to console due to a driver issue06:48
UTENTEmmm i better put the version before then i see 6.10 neads still some fix06:48
UTENTEill wait they solve the bugs on it then ill put last one06:49
redphoenixI guess a new nvidia driver came along with the upgrade.... because whatever driver I had used "nv" in xorg.config or whatever the config file is named06:49
UTENTEif i got dapper does it auto update to last kubuntu version?06:49
redphoenixso I changed it to nvidia just on a whim and poof!06:49
redphoenixno, UTENTE06:49
redphoenixit does not06:49
UTENTEso if i want to upgrade it will do it 100% but only if i give the command for it right?06:50
redphoenixright.... and only if it works right06:50
UTENTEim new to linux so thanx for aswering all my questions06:50
UTENTEso red ok then red let's put the dapper and wait they fix new one best solution06:51
UTENTEu like the idea?06:52
redphoenixyeah if you're new to linux dapper is your best bet06:53
UTENTEim not going to request free cd so i leave it to who really neads it06:53
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UTENTEjhondoe why u ask me things in italian in pvt then don't answer me?06:54
UTENTEand yes rome italy here new to linux06:54
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ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!06:54
JucatoUTENTE: you might be interested going there too  ^^^^^^06:54
UTENTEwell i have friends who make this n1 linux journal in italy colled oltelinux06:55
UTENTEif u want to join azzura irc #oltrelinux06:55
UTENTEis this the official kubuntu of the world ?06:55
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Jucatothere is only one Kubuntu06:56
Jucato#kubuntu is the English channel06:56
UTENTEo seen many on irc strange06:56
Jucatoyou mean the channel?06:56
UTENTEmaby they are support chans of this06:56
UTENTEyes06:56
Jucatothis (#kubuntu) is the English support channel06:56
UTENTEu have ubuntu to?06:56
Jucatothere are other #kubuntu- channels, depending on the locale06:56
Jucatoyes, #ubuntu06:57
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Jucatothat's the Ubuntu English support channel06:57
UTENTEso jucato im going to do a dubble partion for now so i will use 95% kubuntu and %xp06:57
UTENTEas im new to linux they said it's the best for me06:57
UTENTE5%*06:57
Jucatoyes. that would be best, so that you don't have to remove XP until you're comfortable06:58
jhondoeUTENTE because i'm italian06:58
jhondoeasshole06:58
Jucatolanguage, please06:58
UTENTEjust nead xp to play americas army as they don't do it any more for linux06:58
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unix_infidelanyone here know a decent way to convert VBR to CBR so i can burn it to a cd and minimize problems during burn.06:58
UTENTEhey calm down man i just asked u why u don't answer in pvt as u asked me06:59
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UTENTEi don't see any @ here strange07:00
UTENTEwhere are the ops07:00
UTENTE?07:00
Jucatothey're called only when needed07:00
UTENTEa ok07:00
Jucatobut they're here.07:00
UTENTEu think i made right choise to choose kde as it's more similar to xp and has more things then gnome?07:01
UTENTEthey said if u start that's better for u07:01
Jucatothat will really be up to you. personal preference07:01
Jucatotry both and then decide what you like better07:01
UTENTEwell if i don't go wrong kde has much more stuff then gnome07:01
UTENTEprograms etc07:01
Jucatothey have almost equal number of programs. almost07:02
UTENTEim a kde person for now07:02
UTENTEwhat about u jun?07:02
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UTENTEi like gnome to btw any thing is linux bsd is nice07:03
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UTENTE  http://www.myspace.com/ubuntulinux07:05
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UTENTEwhere u from jucato?07:08
unix_infidelhaha, did you just create that UTENTE ?07:08
UTENTEno07:08
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unix_infidelbraino, frenris, purpleposeidon, yorikk, hollywoodb: you all have router's that are vulnerable to exploits.07:11
UTENTEso for the info kubuntu is identic in every thing to ubuntu just it's kde instead of gnome so more simple right?07:11
UTENTEare u hacking us infidel?07:11
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HobbseeUTENTE: yeah07:13
UTENTEo u are a security07:13
UTENTEsee if im ok infidel07:13
UTENTEif u want07:13
unix_infidelcould someone please create a factoid for the proper way to kill ghost procs and a link to documentation about this specific router exploit.07:14
UTENTEare u like a security tester here infidel?07:14
unix_infidelUTENTE: 1) try nick completion.  FOr instance my nick is unix_infidel to print it verbatim do: unix[then press tab] 07:15
unix_infidel2) no, my current research is not in security, i tried it and found it boring.07:15
Jucatounix_infidel: I think he was referring to the fact that you mentioned some people who have vulnerable routers07:15
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unix_infidelJucato: i'm well aware of why he would come to that stipulation, it was just an FYI to those who were affected.07:16
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unix_infideland subsequently a request to anyone who has the power to create factoids.07:16
Jucatounix_infidel: heheh07:16
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walla_i was wondering if anyone could give me a hand with error message i get when transfering songs to my ipod via amarok 1.407:18
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nxnhey07:21
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UTENTEunix infidel can u check if im secure if u want07:23
unix_infidelUTENTE: you can do that yourself.07:24
nxnheh.07:25
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UTENTEwell i seen u testing people so if u want be free i did some seem ok if u can be ok whit xp07:25
nxnwhat the hell did you just say ^^^ ??07:25
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JucatoUTENTE: he didn't test people07:25
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unix_infidelUTENTE: you tend to misunderstand things.  That's ok.  But you should really google: "exploit frameworks" and "nessus" (respectively).07:26
unix_infidelUTENTE: secondly, AOL Chat is a great place to kill time and speak with other people versed in AOL speak, check it out.07:27
braino_sorry for the spam guys =/07:27
UTENTEit was a joke but usa uk dosen't get italian humor07:28
Jucatospecially if we can't make sense of what you were trying to say in the first place...07:29
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UTENTEwell i must get used to this new mentality07:29
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Jucatoor get used to trying to speak straight English in here :P07:30
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Jaseyhi there. superkaramba isnt letting me install a widget which it says is already installed, but isnt showing in the list. what can i do to remedy? thanks :)07:31
UTENTEok as kubuntu has even things to practice english whit :D07:31
UTENTEim getting dapper amd 64 iso let's hope it burns no problems like it usualy did07:32
UTENTEhere is the best film on linux for me 58 min enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFHLIRSJv6w07:33
JucatoUTENTE: please keep posts within the topic, Kubuntu Support. thanks07:34
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UTENTEa ok07:34
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UTENTEu can't paste stuff on linux to?07:34
Jaseyjust kubuntu help07:35
Jucatoyou can. but if it's related to Kubuntu support07:35
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UTENTEu have a chan related to linux to where i can spread info videos?07:35
Jaseythat would more than likely annoy people07:35
rittselHi, trying to install Kubuntu on my laptop, tho i cant get passed the partitioning-step. I choose "Resize SCSI1 and use freed space". But it the app just works but the harddrive isnt and i have to restart the installation.. but i never get pass the step :/07:36
UTENTEmmm very strange first time i hear it07:36
busterbrown123first of all, your laptop is scsi?07:37
rittselyes07:37
busterbrown123sata perhaps07:37
rittselyes07:37
rittsels07:37
rittselsata* sorry07:37
busterbrown123it's ok07:37
rittselbut *nix always says scsi ;)07:37
busterbrown123they use the same drive names07:37
rittseli just wanted to know if you've experienced the same? ^^07:37
busterbrown123yeah07:37
rittseli'll just see if i can partition it manually :)07:38
busterbrown123I just installed kubuntu on this desktop07:38
rittselk07:38
busterbrown123Nforce 4 Sata07:38
busterbrown123no issues reading the drives07:38
rittselit can read it07:38
rittselit's just.. bah07:38
rittselwhat i think it tries to do is this:07:38
busterbrown123making partitions?07:38
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rittseli have 2 partitions right now, 1 win & 1 backup. It wants to resize the windows partition and use the freed space to install kubuntu on and have dual-boot07:39
UTENTEu advise me to use partion magic for the dubble partion kubuntu xp jucato?07:39
rittselthis is not wished for.. tho i need my backup-partition so.. manual it is :p07:39
busterbrown123yeah07:39
busterbrown123but you should be able to select the backup drive, then resize07:39
JucatoI don't use partition magic, sorry07:40
rittselexcuse me.. but wtf? Why isnt ReiserFS an option for partition type? :s07:40
busterbrown123????07:40
busterbrown123dunno07:40
Jaseyit should be07:40
UTENTEwhat u advise people for a dubble partion xp kubuntu?07:40
rittsellmao07:40
busterbrown123ext3 never served me wrong07:40
Jaseybut its a little hard to find it07:40
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rittselext3, ext2, fat32, fat16, jfs, linux-swap, ntfs & xfs07:41
rittselthat's it :s07:41
Jaseyweird :S07:41
rittselyep07:41
Jaseytheir should be more than that, im sure07:41
busterbrown123I'd say let the installer resize your windows partition UTENTE07:41
Jaseyjust in some unusual and illogical place07:41
rittselnot in the drop-down box07:41
noelvishello all07:41
busterbrown123you might have to cfdisk it07:41
rittselwhy would they put it in another place then all the other types? .s07:41
rittseldoesnt make sense mate07:41
rittseldoh07:41
UTENTEhere i have partion magic so if it does the game ill try that07:41
Jaseyoh youre using the live cd...07:42
busterbrown123live cd rittsel?07:42
UTENTEim using the desktop version yes07:42
noelvisi'm looking for the scandisk alternative for kubuntu07:42
busterbrown123don't need it07:42
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rittselbusterbrown123: yes07:42
busterbrown123est3 checks every 20 boots07:42
busterbrown123usually07:43
rittsel?07:43
busterbrown123to noelvis07:43
rittselwhat are you talking about now?07:43
busterbrown123sorry07:43
Jaseybut if you really want to check, use fsck07:43
busterbrown123ext3 - sorry noelvis07:43
rittselpeople >_< please start to hilight, you are talking to 2 different people i believe but i dont know who you are talking to and when >_< bah07:43
busterbrown123rittsel07:43
rittselcongratz07:43
rittselyes?07:43
rittsel^^07:44
noelvisthanks, i'm new at linux07:44
rittselyes busterbrown123 ?07:44
busterbrown123you can try using cfdisk in a terminal window07:44
busterbrown123setup your partitions in advance using that07:44
busterbrown123then restart the install07:44
noelviswill do busterbrown12307:44
rittseli'll try, what's the difference between cfdisk & fdisk? :s07:44
rittselnever heard of cfdisk07:45
busterbrown123cfdisk is the linux version of fdisk07:45
busterbrown123fdisk is dos07:45
busterbrown123or was anyway07:45
rittseleh.. no?07:45
rittseli'm using gentoo to all my servers and i partition them with fdisk in the gentoo-installation.07:45
busterbrown123ok07:45
busterbrown123my bad07:46
rittseli know ther's a fdisk for DOS as well but that's another one07:46
rittsel^^07:46
Jaseycfdisk has a UI, lovely07:46
noelviswill try cfdisk now - thanks all07:46
rittsellmao ok07:46
Jaseywell a pseudo one07:46
busterbrown123that's why I use it07:46
rittsel:p07:46
busterbrown123you still need to make the filesystems07:46
rittselthat's the difference then ^^07:46
busterbrown123it will partition07:46
Jaseynoelvis: that thing will edit partitions. i thought you just wanted to scan?07:46
rittseloh fuck off.. sorry guys but i only have read-access in cfdisk from the live-cd lol!07:47
busterbrown123haha07:47
busterbrown123nice07:47
rittselnvm.. i'll just go with ext3 then >_<07:47
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rittseldamn it ^^07:47
busterbrown123easy as pie07:47
Jaseylol, did you close ubiquity first07:47
busterbrown123ext3 is good07:47
rittselreiserfs is better ;)07:47
Jaseyext3 is lovely for dual booting with windows. it is the fat32 of linux lol07:47
busterbrown123yeah yeah07:47
rittseli wont use dual-boot so07:48
busterbrown123flexibility is not a crime07:48
rittselhavent said so either07:48
Jaseywell i had ext3, had to reinstall kubuntu, now i have reiserfs... honestly i dont see any noticable difference07:48
busterbrown123last benchmarks I saw couldn't say any one *nix file system was best07:48
rittselbtw, fat32 of linux? That's not a good thing you know.. you think fat32 is better then ntfs? or did i just get you wrong? ^^07:48
Jaseyno07:49
busterbrown123no07:49
Jaseyi mean07:49
rittsellol07:49
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Jaseyyou cant properly write to ntfs on linux, as you cant write to reiserfs on windows07:49
busterbrown123just basic, simple, and compatible07:49
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rittselCompared to ext2 and ext3 in version 2.4 of the Linux kernel, when dealing with files under 4 KiB and with tail packing enabled, ReiserFS is often faster by a factor of 10.15.[citation needed]  This is of great benefit in Usenet news spools, HTTP caches, mail delivery systems and other applications where performance with small files is critical.07:49
Jaseybut you CAN write to fat32 on linux as you CAN write to ext3 on windows07:49
rittsel^^07:49
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Hikaru79Jasey, yes.07:49
Nameless-Onehow do you write to ext3 on windows07:49
Hikaru79Jasey, FAT32 write support has existed in Linux/OSX for a long time.07:50
Jaseytheres a driver for it on the web07:50
busterbrown123fat32 is the whore of file systems07:50
rittsellol07:50
busterbrown123it gets around07:50
Jaseylol07:50
Nameless-OneO.o07:50
Jaseyyes, Hikaru79 :)07:50
nxnadept popped up an error window, i clicked okay and adept closed. when i reopen it it will not let me make any changes because something else is using the processes or something. what do i do to get controll of adept again????07:50
Hikaru79Nameless-One: http://e2fsprogs.sourceforge.net/ext2.html07:50
Nameless-Onethx07:50
Hikaru79Jasey, oh, sorry. I read your statement as a question =(07:51
Hikaru79Jasey, my bad >_<07:51
Jaseyeasy nxn, in a Konsole, type sudo killall dpkg ... or sudo killall adept07:51
Jaseythats okay Hikaru79 lol07:51
nxnty jasey07:51
Jucato!adpet crash fix | nxn07:51
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about adpet crash fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi07:51
Jucato!adept crash fix | nxn07:51
ubotunxn: If adept crashed on you and your database is locked, try this in konsole: 'sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a'07:51
Hikaru79Does there exist a good screencasting solution for KDE? (Other than mencoder?)07:52
JucatoScreenkast (not in our repos yet)07:52
Hikaru79Thanks, Jucato :) I'll try it out.07:53
nxnty jucato and ubotu07:53
noelvisjasey you are correct, chdisk is dangerous07:54
Hikaru79http://instrudeo.bpower2.com/packages/Ubuntu/edgy/  <--- Not in the repos, but packages do exist specially for edgy, yay!07:54
Jaseynoelvis: fsck is what you want07:54
dbgltok, something keep altering my resolv.conf. I have no idea what is doing it, but it is getting rid of my nameservers, and I have to manually replace it07:54
noelvisthanks jasey07:54
Jaseynoelvis: but you wont need to use it, kubuntu runs it automatically every 20 or so boots07:54
dbgltI tried making it read only07:54
Jucatojust be careful in adding unofficial repos07:54
dbgltbut it just overwrites it...07:54
Jucatodbglt: same problem here... haven't found a way to fix it :(07:56
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UTENTEwhat does 6.10 of kubuntu have better then drapper?07:57
JaseyUTENTE:  6.10 is a lot less stable07:57
UTENTEi see that07:57
UTENTEthat's why im putting dapper07:57
rittselis 6.10 less stable? Why is that?07:58
UTENTEbut don't know what it has new yet respect to dapper07:58
Search4LancerI noticed when I finally got the upgrade to work and started up, both partitions of my external HD were already mounted... is that a new feature in Edgy, automatic mounting on startup?07:58
Jaseyit was made to introduce new technologies, but since it had less time in development than dapper, they werent quite stabilised07:58
JucatoEdgy (6.10) is less stable because it introduces a lot of new stuff07:58
Jaseyseems to be Search4Lancer, everyone has been talking about that. i think it is part of upstart.07:58
rittselok, but do you notice and see the unstableness? (spelling, lol) I mean, does things crash etc or is it just seen as unstable since there are new stuff?07:59
Search4Lanceronly saves a few seconds, but spiffy nonetheless, Jasey08:00
Jucatoinstability? well, there are some, but not always.08:00
noelvischeers all08:00
ninohi guys!!08:00
Search4Lancerit's a PITA to upgrade to, I know that much :-D08:00
Jucatoah yes. that's true08:00
rittselJucato: any examples? ^^08:00
Jaseyit is a real pain to upgrade, but most packages have been stabilised08:00
Jucatoupgrading is one :)08:00
rittsellol ok08:01
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Jaseytheres a ton of broken packages everywhere08:01
rittselwell.. need to get ready, make some breakfast and take a shower.. school in 1h ^^08:01
rittselbroken packages? shit.. doesnt sound good :/08:01
Search4LancerI still have 34 packages that want to upgrade, but then again don't want to upgrade08:01
rittsel:/08:01
rittselwell anyway.. i'll talk to you guys later :) See you08:01
Jaseynot important ones08:01
Jaseyjust packages in universe and things08:02
Jaseybye bye rittsel08:02
Search4Lancermost of them are python packages08:02
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sephrysjoystick!08:03
sephrysgamepad08:03
sephryslinux08:03
sephrysartg08:03
sephrysgimme gimme08:03
sephryshehe ive been looking at forums for hours to get my sidewinder gamepad to work08:03
UTENTEwhat im curius to know if kubuntu distros are less cured then ubuntu or it's the same?08:03
sephrysfrusterated08:03
Jaseydo you need to type with that many "enter" hits?08:03
sephrysJasey, sorry08:04
JaseyUTENTE: kubuntu has the same amount of concentration as ubuntu08:04
UTENTEso what's unstable on a new realese will be for both ?08:04
Jaseysephrys: your gamepad should be detected on /dev/js0 ... if not, /dev/input/js008:04
UTENTElike new ubuntu might be unstable to now08:04
sephrysits not08:04
Jaseymake sure your games point to these08:05
Jaseyoh08:05
sephrysJasey, hows it auto detect?08:05
sephryscuz it doesn't08:05
UTENTEas they got same packets08:05
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JaseyUTENTE: yes, they share the same repositories. so the they will not be stable on one, and unstable on another.08:06
sephryshow do i get it working08:06
UTENTEi could guess that08:06
Jaseysephrys: sorry, im not an expert on this subject08:06
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UTENTEjasey do u know if mercury the msn close has mic to couse amsn has only webcam08:06
UTENTEclone*08:07
UTENTEim looking for a linux msn clone that has mic to not just cam08:07
james_hello all i have a question08:07
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Jaseyi think it does. im not sure how well it works. i dont know if mercury is in our repositories either.08:07
Jaseyokay james, ask away08:07
nxnhow do i get wine to work??08:07
UTENTEok maby i could use skyper for audio ad amsn to see08:08
Jaseysephrys: it may be unsupported hardware. have a look on the web to check.08:08
Jaseynxn: have you installed wine08:08
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sephrysits not ive been looking for hours08:08
UTENTEbut i don't think it will that long that amsn will integrate mic to08:08
Jaseyif its not supported, it wont work :P08:08
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james_hello jasey i am running amarok  when i close it should appear in the task bar but it just disappears ... how come???08:08
UTENTErespect to rpm how many packets u got in the repository jasey?08:09
Jaseyjames, right click the icon and pick Exit08:09
UTENTErpm comes whit basic 1600 packets08:09
james_what icon?08:09
Jaseyit is a little wolf inside a circle, james_08:09
james_there is no icon hence the problem08:09
UTENTErepositories*08:09
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JaseyUTENTE: i think our deb repository is the second largest of all, second to debian08:10
Jaseyoh, james_ :S08:10
Jaseylet me check, im running amarok right now08:10
james_so what now08:10
james_amarok is running but no icon08:10
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UTENTEi see so debian is n1 even over fedora and rpm based distros diden't know that ?08:10
Jaseycan you bring amarok up please08:10
james_i can run it from the run dialog is that what you mean?08:11
UTENTEbtw rpm are instable and buggy so don't like rpm based distros much08:11
james_so now it is up now what08:11
james_it is running08:11
nxnjasey - yes08:11
Jaseygo to Settings > Configure Amarok08:11
UTENTEid say debian is the best for servers08:12
james_ok08:12
UTENTEkubuntu for desk08:12
nxnjasey - i cant find it in the k-menu08:12
Jaseygo to General and see if there is a check next to Show Tray Icon08:12
Jaseyits not in the k menu nxn08:12
Jaseynxn, you run it in a Konsole window08:12
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james_yes it is checked08:12
Jaseyin a konsole window, type wine program.exe ... replace program.exe with the actual program's file name08:12
Jucato(of course, go to the directory where the .exe is located first)08:13
Jaseyof course08:13
UTENTEu know a debian clone called lesbian jasey?08:13
james_jasey are you talking to me08:13
nxncool ty guys08:13
james_??08:13
JaseyUTENTE: stick to kubuntu in here08:13
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Jaseyjames_: no08:13
UTENTEOK08:13
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Jaseyjames_: did you have a look at the configuration as i indicated earlier? Settings > Configure Amarok > General > Show tray icon08:14
james_so it is current clicked to show icon but no icon weird huh?08:14
Jaseyvery weird08:14
UTENTEok few min and i can make the boot iso of kubuntu amd 6408:14
Jaseyand other icons appear in the system tray alright?08:14
Jaseyvery good, UTENTE :)08:14
UTENTEjust hope will not give error when the cd is done like the 6.1008:15
james_like what perhaps a test of another program08:15
Jaseykopete, for example08:15
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UTENTEsadely the 6.10 cd amd 64 is buggy when u burn it boot iso afther the cd is done on the verify gives u an error and no way to remove it08:15
UTENTEtryied whit the best cd's and programs like nero and imgburn08:16
JucatoUTENTE: don't burn it as a bootable CD. burn it as a CD image08:16
UTENTEi did08:16
UTENTEwhit nero and imgburn08:16
Jaseymay have not downloaded properly08:16
james_right now amarok is playing but no icon either in the system tray or the corner??08:17
UTENTEbtw the best is to wait whit dapper they fix 6.10 the apt -get updated08:17
Jaseyi know james_08:17
JucatoUTENTE: this might help you. just replace Ubuntu with Kubuntu http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/iso08:17
Jucato!download08:17
ubotuKubuntu can be downloaded in various formats from here: http://kubuntu.org/download.php08:17
Jaseyjames_: open kopete. does the kopete logo appear on the bar down the bottom on the right?08:17
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Jaseyi have this odd feeling the System Tray applet is missing, but i just want to make sure08:17
Jucatojames_: you should see some other small icons like the kmix icon, klipper (clipboard)08:18
UTENTEdo u know when linux iso .org will be back on?08:18
UTENTEsite is down since a while08:18
JucatoUTENTE: download the images straight from the distribution's web page. it's more reliable08:19
Jaseythats out of the scope of a kubuntu help channel lol08:19
Jucatoanyway, gtg :)08:19
Jaseybye bye jucato :)08:19
UTENTEyes better but was cool to try other distros to08:19
UTENTEi all ways like to try em even if i stick to kubuntu08:20
Jaseythe differences are usually just how the default desktop is set up :P08:20
UTENTEare u here later jasey?08:20
JucatoUTENTE: other distros will have their own download page, which are more updated and have more instructions than linuxiso.org08:20
Jaseyand what programs are installed by default etc08:20
james_there is no kmix icon now what ??08:20
Jaseyahh james_08:20
Jaseyjames_: you are missing the System Tray kicker applet08:21
UTENTEare u both here later jasey jucato?08:21
Jaseyjames_: to add this, right click an empty space on the bottom bar08:21
Jaseyyes UTENTE08:21
Jucatoprobably08:21
james_ok08:21
Jaseyjames_: (continuing) then click Add Applet08:21
Jucatoso it was a missing system tray :P08:21
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Jaseyto Panel08:21
UTENTEi have to got to school now 8.21 am in roma but this afthernoon i nead help to make my dubble partion whit xp so i can have kubuntu 2 in 108:21
Jaseyjames_: in the list that appears, find the System Tray applet, and click Add :)08:21
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UTENTEcan u help me whit that?08:21
Jaseythe kubuntu desktop cd can do that for you, UTENTE08:22
james_solved08:22
Jaseyis the icon there now james_?08:22
UTENTEwell i nead a guide couse alone im not very good if that's ok08:22
james_why was my task bar disappearing08:22
UTENTEi use partion magic08:22
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james_separate issue08:22
james_yes08:22
Jaseyi dont use partition magic08:22
james_it is now working08:23
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Jaseyjames_: right click the taskbar, choose Configure Panel08:23
james_ok08:23
Jaseyjames_: and in Hiding, make sure no hiding options are enabled08:23
UTENTEwell how can u guide me if i must do it from the boot whit kubuntu live ?08:23
UTENTEthat's a big problem08:23
Jaseylol08:23
Jaseyill try and help you do it in partition magic then08:23
UTENTEthanx08:24
Jaseyif i am still awake08:24
rittseljust a question.. is Kubuntu reeeaaalllyyy slow on boot for everyone? It's a good laptop.. and holy hell what a boot-time.. and not even verbose :(08:24
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UTENTEill wait tonight if u not here what time is it there?08:24
UTENTEso i can calculate08:24
james_only hide when a panel-hiding button is clicked08:24
Jaseyrittsel: by default, just about every service you will ever need is enabled. even ones you might not want. they can be removed in System Settings or kcontrol08:24
Jaseyjames_: oh, okay, thats fine08:25
james_how do simply add kcontrol to kmenu08:25
james_??08:25
UTENTEbtw it's simple to dubble partion they said just have to 2 some right moves08:25
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UTENTEdo*08:25
eilkerritsel: mine is slow too08:25
Jaseyright click somewhere on the k menu, pick Edit menu08:25
Jaseyand you can add it where you want it, james_ :-)08:26
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james_ok08:26
james_do i have to pick an icon for it etc.08:26
Jaseyif you want to, or you can leave it blank. but a piece of paper for an icon looks rather stupid08:26
Jaseythe most important part is the Name and the Command08:27
rittselJasey: ok.. but it's not that boot-screen.. i mean when it loads modules and shit like that.. can you really decide stuff like that in kcontrol as well? :p I'll just compile my own kernel later today ^^08:27
UTENTEok iso i ready i put the empty cd then click on the iso imgburn loads 4 x then burn right?08:27
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Jaseyoh, possibly can edit the init scripts and blah blah blah i dont know lol08:27
james_ok thought there might be a short-cut while you are here quick question when partioning a drive to get it ready for kubuntu do you need 3 partions?08:28
JaseyUTENTE: yes. go for it :D08:28
JaseyUTENTE: are you italian, by chance?08:28
UTENTElet's hope well but usualy dapper diden't have errors08:28
UTENTEyes rome08:28
james_one for swap one for home  and one for /08:28
rittselJasey: yeh.. since it really took 2 mins to boot after grub.. and that's just wrong :s08:28
UTENTEwhere u from jasey?08:28
seishinbyouVMWare, now running Ubuntu on Kubuntu08:28
Jaseymay i suggest going to the help channel #ubuntu-it08:28
UTENTEi like usa uk chans08:28
Jucatolol08:29
Jaseyokay, just thought it might be better to speak your own language :P08:29
Jaseyor easier, rather08:29
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Jucatosorry, that lol was for seishinbyou08:29
Jaseylol08:29
flaccidgoing sick on this new lcd jucato08:29
UTENTEi just must rember grammar im motherlanguage grew up in london from 5 to 11 ahah08:29
seishinbyouI figured. :)  (I have a development environment for one project and needed to set up another without disturbing the first)08:29
Jucatoflaccid: why? what's wrong?08:30
james_hello jasey quick question see above can you help?08:30
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flaccidsick as in mad as in good :)08:30
Jaseyokay08:30
flaccidits very good and high contrast ratio08:30
Jaseyyes james_08:30
Jaseyjames_: well, sorry, just two08:30
flaccidnever thought i would be using kubuntu at work on a hi-spec machine08:30
UTENTE2 cd left so imgburn don't fail08:30
Jaseyjames_: one for the root /, and one for swap08:30
Jucatoaah.hehhe08:31
james_ok any idea why ? because in knoppix god forgive you only need the main partion and a swap area08:31
UTENTEas im amd 3000 i took amd 64 version desktop of dapper08:31
Jaseyjames_: sorry, i meant two. lol.08:31
Jaseyjames_: if you want to have a seperate home partition, you can. although that is kind of pointless if you only have one hard disk.08:31
james_i just installed pclinuxos and it was amazingly easy but it required 3 partions08:32
Jaseythats strange08:32
UTENTEjasey read pm i got a thing to ask u if u there08:33
busterbrown123one for boot, one for root, and one for swap?08:33
Jaseywell kubuntu only needs two, the root /, and a swap area. i dont know why /home would want its own partition08:33
james_ok if one is to format a disk to run kubuntu and winxp how would you proceed install winxp first then kbuntu then how to configure grub?08:33
busterbrown123james08:33
james_yes08:33
JaseyUTENTE: you arent registered with nickserv, so i did not get your PM08:33
busterbrown123yeah08:33
seishinbyouI thought the 3rd was for /home08:33
UTENTEa ok08:33
seishinbyoure: PCLinux08:33
UTENTEill register how u do that?08:33
Jaseyjames_: install xp, install kubuntu. grub will add xp to the grub list. easy08:33
james_one is for swap one is for /home and one is for /08:33
JucatoI don't recall being required to make 3 partitions to install PC Linux OS08:34
Jaseythats rather dumb having /home on its own partition, seeing as no matter what its still /home, lol08:34
seishinbyouYou don't have to, I don't *think* (I installed on a VMWare image)08:34
busterbrown123james_: when you install xp, you might want to set up half the drive as free space08:34
UTENTEim reg solved thanx08:34
james_so create three partitions fat , ext3 and swap , yes???08:34
Jaseyno08:35
Jaseyyou cant do that in windows lol08:35
JucatoI installed PCLOS once, on one partition08:35
Jaseyor the windows installer, sorry08:35
james_so when it writes grub wont it overwrite the mbr ??08:35
Jaseyjames_: in the windows installer, it will tell you the amount of space on your hard disk in total. divide that by two.08:35
busterbrown123yes08:35
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james_wo will grub still be able to load windows or not?08:36
JucatoJasey: having /home on it's own (separate) partition isn't dumb. it's wise08:36
busterbrown123james:the mbr is easy to repair later if need be08:36
busterbrown123yes08:36
james_do i need to08:36
james_??08:36
Jaseyprobably not08:36
james_good thanks for the help08:36
busterbrown123it should autodetect windows during the kubuntu install08:36
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james_koolness08:36
Jaseyyeah08:37
busterbrown123 /boot/grub/menu.lst is the boot menu file08:37
james_kubuntu is cool and i recommend pclinuxos for fun08:37
james_yea thanks08:37
busterbrown123if Windows isn't detected, there's an example in the file you can use08:37
james_its hardware detection and set up is magic08:38
Jaseythe debian installer is a fantastic bit of overlooked software, and ubiquity with it08:38
james_but it is lacking in some ways that kubuntu picks up08:38
james_ok well c u later08:38
Jaseybye bye james_08:38
busterbrown123bye08:39
Jaseyyou know, i came here with a problem, and i still dont have an answer lol08:39
busterbrown123what problem jasey08:39
busterbrown123?08:39
Jaseysuperkaramba thinks a widget is installed. but it isnt listed in its list. how do i remedy this lol08:39
busterbrown123compiz has been my problem08:39
busterbrown123out of my league buddy08:39
busterbrown123widgets are bad news in my book08:40
Jaseylol08:40
UTENTEok to register my nick i have to write register nick then pass?08:40
MomalIs it possible to change the character encoding per channel in konversation ?08:40
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=== Jasey /nickserv register password email
Jaseyand then08:40
busterbrown123I would say look for a config file in your home directory08:40
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UTENTEthanx08:40
Jaseyi tried, i even purged superkaramba and put it back... but it didnt do anything lol08:41
busterbrown123or in /usr/share/apps/08:41
Jaseybusterbrown123: i heard widgets are going to be integral to kde 4. prepare to cry lol.08:41
busterbrown123ahhhhhhhhhh!!08:41
Jaseyi wouldnt think its in there, i didnt run superkaramba as root/sudo08:41
busterbrown123but kwin will have compositing abilities08:41
Jaseylol the compositing abilities it has now are kind of ... poo08:42
busterbrown123I mean ones that work08:42
teledyn_test08:42
busterbrown123and that are hardware based08:42
busterbrown123XGL all the way08:42
Jaseylol08:43
busterbrown123so firefox dies when I try to customize my toolbar08:43
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Jaseyi havent had that problem =\08:44
busterbrown123segmentation fault08:44
teledyn_strace it08:44
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busterbrown123how?08:44
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busterbrown123strace firefox?08:45
teledyn_strace -s 128 -o /tmp/strace.out -f /usr/bin/mozilla08:45
Jaseylol08:45
UTENTEok im going to school see u later jasey for the dubble partion hoping the live works08:45
UTENTElater all08:45
Jaseywell im out, catchyas08:45
teledyn_not sure what the executable is named though08:46
max_salut pouriez vous me donnez le lien pour le salon en francais merci08:46
seishinbyouIs there a real, practical point to "Kibadock"?  At all?08:46
seishinbyouVoulez vous la finetre?08:47
busterbrown123je suit desolet08:47
busterbrown123that's all the french I know08:47
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teledyn_"Are you a window?"  is that what that says???08:47
seishinbyouWould you like the window, I think08:48
yamalhe wants to know the frenchie chan08:48
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teledyn_still sounds surreal to me.  those french surrealists...08:48
yamal!fr08:48
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.08:48
seishinbyou!ja08:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ja - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:49
seishinbyou!jp08:49
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about jp - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:49
seishinbyoudarn08:49
teledyn_wow i'd love to see ubotu spit out a factoid in hiragana08:49
max_thank you08:49
max_bye08:49
seishinbyou08:50
teledyn_that looks so cool08:50
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seishinbyouHow would I register a message pointing people to #kubuntu-ja when they type !ja08:51
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teledyn_there's a web page somewhere that explains the factoids and ubotu08:51
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seishinbyouHeh, something to do a bit later08:52
seishinbyouNot that there is anyone *in* #kubuntu-ja at all anyways08:52
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teledyn_http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi08:52
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seishinbyouOkay, that helps, thanks08:54
krautmoin08:54
teledyn_   /msg ubotu factoid08:54
teledyn_has a link about how to use it08:55
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teledyn_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:55
ElectrolyteOk, soon enough I'm going to switch to Ubuntu - i'm sick of these bugs in Kubuntu Edgy :/08:55
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Schalkenis there an nvidia driver that will allow compiz to run under AIGLX yet?08:59
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seishinbyouHmm, well I tried programming the bots for ja...I guess the ops have to approve it09:02
Jucatohuh?09:02
seishinbyou!ja09:02
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ja - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:02
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Jucatowhat's it supposed to be?09:03
seishinbyou#ubuntu-ja#kubuntu-ja09:03
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Jucato!ja09:03
ubotu#ubuntu-ja#kubuntu-ja09:03
Jucatoer.. seishinbyou, isn't it supposed to be -jp?09:04
seishinbyouErr...09:04
seishinbyounow that you mention it...09:04
MomalIs it possible to change the character encoding per channel in konversation ?.. or more important how can you change it at all ?09:04
Jucatoseishinbyou: what's the language code for Japanese?09:04
JucatoMomal: right-click on the channel name?09:04
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Jucatojapanese?09:05
seishinbyouI believe I am using UTF-8 at the moment, though most apps here default to SJIS09:05
seishinbyouja_JP09:05
Jucatoseishinbyou: I mean, for example, Spanish is -es, Portugese is -pt09:05
JucatoTagalog (Philippines) is -tl but we use -ph...09:05
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Jucatoseishinbyou: so it should be #kubuntu-jp I guess?09:06
Momalyou might want to link it to !ja and !jp since some people type it one way and the other09:06
seishinbyoushould be jp, but I'm googling out of curiousity09:06
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Jucato!jp09:07
ubotu #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 09:07
Momalerro thanks Jucato :p09:07
Jucatoseishinbyou: what does that translate to, btw?09:07
seishinbyouFor Japanese, refer to #ubuntu-jp or #kubuntu-jp09:07
seishinbyouwith a hint of please09:07
Jucatokudesai? onegai?09:08
Jucato:)09:08
seishinbyoukudasai (at the end)09:08
Jucatooh kudasai.. typo hehehe09:08
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Jucatoum no spaces?09:08
seishinbyouhm, apt-get reports all Japanese packages ending with ja09:08
seishinbyoulanguage-pack-gnome-ja for example09:08
seishinbyounot that I'd use that anyways09:08
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Jucatoso it must be -jp09:09
seishinbyoumozilla-firefox-locale-ja-jp <- good name09:09
Momallol.. yea09:10
Momaljust saw that :p09:10
seishinbyouIt's great bringing over foreign programmers and introducing them to double-byte character sets.  A whole new world of possibility for errors :)09:10
Jucatowell, in any case09:10
Jucato!ja | seishinbyou09:10
ubotuseishinbyou:  #ubuntu-jp  #kubuntu-jp 09:10
seishinbyouhooray for me.  ubotu loves me09:11
Jucato!jp | seishinbyou09:11
Jucatogrr... :P09:11
Jucato!jp | seishinbyou09:11
Jucatoah delay krap...09:11
Jucatoanyway, I'm trusting your Japanese expertise here, seishinbyou09:11
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seishinbyouWell, I'm not advertising any dating sites09:11
Jucatoyou better not be :P09:12
MomalJucato: Just paste it in #japanese or #nihongo if you want another verification :p09:12
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seishinbyouHmm, is Wine 0.9.25 still broken in Edgy?09:14
Momalwhy does bablefish make things sound like its from an old english book lol09:15
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seishinbyouBecause Babelfish is for comedic purposes09:15
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seishinbyourikai.com is better...slightly09:15
Momalhehe09:15
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Jucatoat least Babelfish confirms that text :P09:16
bitchslapperI just installed the ATI prop. drivers and it was showing those in my vendor string ... no I install beryl .. and its back to mesa3d ... what's going on? how do I restore my drivers?09:16
seishinbyouThe honourable Babelfish is the bequeath of the correcting Japanese texts09:17
bitchslapperand it can't do direct rendering09:17
bitchslapperwtf09:17
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bitchslapperprobably need a restart or something ...09:20
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Jaseyhi there. is there a way to specify a different window decoration for certain apps? thanks lol...09:26
Jaseyoh nvm got answer heh09:26
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_deb_hi * . I have installed a Edgy 6.10 on my laptop. But it seems that multiple panel configuration is missing in the kicker for kde 3.5.5 what is shipped with edgy 6.10. Anyone faced the same problem ?09:33
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Jaseywhat is that, _deb_ ? explain that lol09:35
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Jaseyalrighty then, dont explain it09:36
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Momallol09:41
JucatoO_o09:41
MomalChannel seems quiet at the moment : O09:42
Jucatossshh! let me sleep :P09:42
seishinbyouI could dance if you want09:42
Jaseyi love this channel. rare occasions where off topic chat is acceptable. and ubotu isnt warning you silly. its great. now dance!!09:43
Jucato!topic09:43
ubotuPlease read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic09:43
MomalDo you have a webcam or something?.. or maybe you could dance with some ascii art? :p09:43
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Jucato!offtopic09:44
ubotu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!09:44
Jucato:P09:44
Momallol smartass :p...09:44
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Momal!language09:44
ubotuPlease watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.09:44
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seishinbyouFriendly to whose family, though?  The Manson family?09:45
Jucatothe Simpsons of course09:45
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Jucatohm...09:46
Jucatooh nvm then09:46
Momallol09:46
seishinbyouI've seen the earlier seasons, though09:46
Jucatohi hi puffy ami yumi go!09:46
JapsuI have WPA manually configured in Kubuntu Edgy and it's working, but because I work in several WLAN networks, I'd like to do the configuration and profile switching graphically. I installed KNetworkManager, but it's saying "No network device found" even though this laptop has two working network interfaces (gigabit ethernet and ipw3945 wlan)09:46
JapsuAny idea on how to make the network manager work? I haven't rebooted after installing it, but I logged out and back in, and I can see NetworkManager and NetworkManagerDispatcher in the process list09:47
snpz_Japsu09:48
snpz_lspci09:48
snpz_does kernel recognize  your wifi card?09:48
Japsu02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82573L Gigabit Ethernet Controller09:48
Japsu03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network Connection (rev 02)09:48
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Japsusnpz_: yes, and they both work09:48
snpz_Japsu, nice09:49
snpz_well09:49
Japsusnpz_: as I said, I have everything working through manual configuration09:49
snpz_lsmod09:49
Japsubut network manager does not work09:49
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snpz_knetworkmanager09:49
snpz_?09:49
Japsuyes09:49
snpz_strange09:49
Japsuthe network devices work, knetworkmanager does not09:49
snpz_is there any error message?09:49
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Japsuwhere?09:49
Japsuknetworkmanager's popup menu just says "No network device found"09:49
Japsuhmm, checking daemon.log09:49
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snpz_ehmm09:50
Japsuhmm09:51
snpz_so is teher something interesting in this log?09:51
Japsuwell09:51
snpz_there09:51
e1mer!ubuntu09:51
ubotuUbuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuHowCome09:51
JapsuMy laptop has a button that activates or deactivates both wlan and bluetooth09:51
snpz_so09:52
snpz_mine also09:52
Japsuthey are currently activated and things work through manual configuration, but hmm09:52
Japsuwhen I deactivate them and activate them again, network manager _does_ show lines in daemon.log09:52
JapsuBUT they're about the bluetooth controller, not wlan09:52
Japsuthat is, they all are USB stuff whereas the WLAN controller is a minipci one09:53
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JapsuI've also noticed a possible bug in the network scripts. In /etc/network/interfaces I have "iface eth1 inet dhcp; wireless-essid MYESSID; wpa-driver wext; wpa-conf /path/to/my_wpa.conf" and when I do "ifup eth1", dhclient starts before the WPA negotiation is complete09:55
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Japsuthis causes unnecessary delays in the connection process, because the dhclient makes a few unsuccessfull tries before actually getting an IP address09:56
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sephryswow beryl is a waste of resources10:12
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Japsusephrys: agreed10:16
sephryshaha10:16
sephrysits cool though10:16
Japsusnpz_: okay I got it working by removing all interfaces except lo from /etc/network/interfaces10:17
sephrysand it messes up wine10:17
sephryswhen it takes full screen10:17
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freewilli can't get eclipse to run on edgy 32bit I tried downloading sun java gcj ... lots of other libs but it still wounldn't this is what i get when i type it in the console "eclipse ->searching for compatible vm...  testing /usr/lib/jvm/java-gcj...found -> kdialog: Unknown option '--warning'.->kdialog: Use --help to get a list of available command line options.10:26
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gnomefreakfreewill: install sun-java5-plugin10:28
freewillgnomefreakm kk10:30
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freewillgnomefreakm its still telling me the same thing :(10:33
gnomefreakfreewill: sudo update-alternatives --config java10:33
freewillsorry * gnomefreak10:33
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gnomefreakfreewill: choose the number of the one you just installed10:33
gnomefreakrestart eclipse10:33
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Jucatoer.. gnomefreak...10:34
Jucatoyou just told him to install java plugins, not JRE...10:35
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freewillgnomefreak got 2 probs 1) eclipse never ran so i can't restart it 2) i tried all of the 4 they let me choose from10:35
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freewillJucato, i have jre installed10:36
Jucatosun-java5-jre?10:36
freewillJucato, well i installed sun-java5-bin and sun-java5-jre is a dep for sun-java5-bin so yes10:36
Jucatoand you can't run eclipse at all? it seems from the error that Konsole is spitting out, you have gcj selected as the defaul java10:37
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freewilli tried gcj, kaffe, sun, wrapper whatver (kaffe, wrapper is )10:38
Jucatotry the sun java one.what errors do you get?10:39
Jucatojava error or kdialog error?10:39
freewillthe same as yes..10:39
freewillkdialog10:40
Jucatoit's not a java problem then...10:40
Jucatohmm...10:40
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freewillbtw i ran eclipse on dapper with gcj but when i ran apps of eclipse I ran them in sun so i would prefer that i can run eclipse in sun..10:41
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freewilland when i downloaded eclipse on dapper it downloade a lot more dependencies..10:43
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alexicon!amarok10:47
ubotuamarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org10:47
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djosahello11:06
djosahio.............11:07
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Admiral_Chicagohelle11:07
djosayou can talk to me?11:10
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Admiral_Chicagosure whats up11:13
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Jucato!xgl | eilker11:14
ubotueilker: Compiz (compositing window manager) and XGL (X server architecture layered on top of OpenGL) - Howto at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager - Help in #ubuntu-xgl - See http://tinyurl.com/pw5ez for Kubuntu systems11:14
eilkerjucato: thanx man:)11:15
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eilkerpeople i have on bard video car and 512 mb ram, may i try for xgl ?11:18
eilkerpeople i have onboard video card and 512 mb ram, may i try for xgl ?11:18
Jucatoyour video card needs to have 3d hardware acceleration11:18
Jucatoand the Linux driver for your video card should be able to use it11:19
eilkerjucato: how could i check 3d harware acceletaration ability ? i810 here...11:19
Jucatonot really sure with intel cards...11:20
Admiral_Chicagoeilker: check out AIGLX i think that works with intel11:21
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zcripthello11:21
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zcripthow are u all11:21
zcript doing11:21
Admiral_Chicagowe are well11:22
Jucatowe are the borg11:22
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eilker!AIGLX11:22
ubotuAIGLX (Accelerated Indirect GLX) is an open source project founded by the X.Org Foundation and the Fedora Core Linux community to allow accelerated indirect GLX rendering capabilities to X.org and DRI drivers. This allows remote X clients to get fully hardware accelerated rendering over the GLX protocol. Head to #ubuntu-xgl for support.11:22
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: what time is it over there11:22
Jucatoalmost 6:30pm11:23
Jucatoyou're up early11:23
Admiral_Chicagoit's almost 5.30 AM here,11:23
Admiral_Chicagoi never sleep man11:23
Jucatoheheeh11:23
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JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: are you on EST?11:23
Admiral_ChicagoCST iirc11:23
Jucatohm.. my KDE clock says it's almost 4:30 am in Chicago11:24
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Admiral_Chicagoyea i'm CST11:24
Jucatohm.... my clock is wrong?11:25
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Admiral_Chicagono but chicago is CST not EST, that is one time zone over +1 hour11:26
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GnarusLeowich movie player is ok to use and is best looking?11:27
JucatoAdmiral_Chicago: yeah. my KDE clock says it's 4:27am in CST, and 5:27am in New York11:27
Admiral_Chicagoyu. that's true11:27
Jucatois CUPS the only thing I need to be able to print? what package do I install? cupsys?11:28
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: i think so11:29
Admiral_Chicagoi don't do printing11:29
Jucatook thanks. :)11:29
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Jucatoneither do I. so i don't have it installed. but I'm gonna have a printer tomorrow, so I wanna try it out11:30
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Admiral_ChicagoJucato: HP?11:32
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Jucatoyeah. I forgot the model, though.11:33
Admiral_ChicagoHP has the best support for *nix11:33
Jucatoit's our "family" printer, but my sister had it in her apartment for almost a year. she's bringing it home11:33
Jucato(although I'm more interested in setting up the scanner that it has..)11:33
Admiral_Chicagooh that may be tricky11:33
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Jucatoyeah... :(11:34
Jucatowhat's trickier is finding space for that baby on my desk :P11:34
hadesSorry, what type of packgage i need to compile new software like freeciv2-1-0beta2 or other games... i cant make just ./conifigure make make install the system says i dont have gcc but i have two versions please help11:35
hades?11:35
Jucatobuild-essential11:35
Jucato!build-essential | hades11:35
ubotuhades: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)11:35
hadesJucato: thx a lot11:36
ziosam78Hi, i'm italian, where is the kubuntu it channel? i  can't find it11:37
Admiral_Chicago!it11:37
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!11:37
Jucatodarn beat me11:37
ziosam78tks ubotu11:37
Admiral_Chicagoi'm compiling gaim from source now11:37
Admiral_Chicagoit's a pain11:37
Jucatoah the new GAIM?11:37
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Admiral_Chicagoyea the beta 511:38
Jucatoah11:38
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Jucatoer.. Ubuntu Packaging Guide11:39
eilkerjucato: my video card is supported, but it has some notes as, DRI ok. scrolling is slow, workspace transitioning is choppy. eats CPU cycles. do u suggest me install xgl?11:41
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JucatoI'm not really sure. you best ask in #ubuntu-xgl11:42
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eilkerjucato: thanx friend11:42
kent_anyone here know how to compile amarok with playforesure support?11:42
eilkerjucato: ubuntu-xgl is dead city:D11:43
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eilkerafter installing xgl, if i decided to remove it, will i have any trouble with *.conf files ? any experience pls ?11:45
Admiral_Chicagoeilker: no idea, i want to remove it but don't want to hose the install so i'm keeping it11:45
eilkerAdmiral_Chicago: is it fantastick ?11:45
SlimGwhere is the kwallet file stored?11:46
Admiral_Chicagonot really i think it's a lot of hype11:46
Admiral_ChicagoSlimG: ~/.kde/kwalletmanager i believe11:46
eilkerAdmiral_Chicago: i se11:46
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eilkerAdmiral_Chicago: i see11:46
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JucatoSlimG: ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet11:47
SlimGAdmiral_Chicago: is this what i'm looking for?: ~/.kde/share/apps/kwallet/kdewallet.kwl11:47
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: how can i delete a directory from CLI11:47
Admiral_ChicagoSlimG: maybe, what do you want to do?11:48
Jucatormdir <directory>?11:48
JucatoI'm not sure how to do it if the directory isn't empty11:48
SlimGAdmiral_Chicago: i've got an old backup that contain logins i cant remeber11:49
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SlimGi'm trying to shutdown kwalletmanager and replacing the kdewallet.kwl, but when starting kwalletmanager again it's no different.. any ideas?11:51
eilkerafter installing xgl, if i decided to remove it, will i have any trouble with *.conf files ? any experience pls ?11:52
Admiral_Chicagosomeone once suggested to me that i just delete the directory and it'll be recreated when kwallet ran but i have no idea11:52
Admiral_Chicagodon't quote me on that one11:52
Jucato[quote=Admiral_Chicago] someone once suggested to me that i just delete the directory and it'll be recreated when kwallet ran but i have no idea[/quote] 11:53
SlimGhehe11:53
Admiral_ChicagoJucato: i hate youe :P11:53
Jucato:P11:53
eilkerjucato: :))11:54
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scheurihi all11:57
eilkerhi scheuri11:58
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SlimGAdmiral_Chicago: Figured it out, you must use "close all wallets" in kwalletmanager before replacing the file, now your quoteable on the subject :)12:00
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kayi have a new keyboard with a lot multimedia buttons/ now my question : i have the keycode where can i find  a list about the keysym?12:05
kent_can someone help me with this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=199250 i'm getting an error i dont understand12:06
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kaykent_: what an error you get?12:09
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kaykent_: and you use i think kubuntu (kde) tis is ubuntu howto and ubuntu use gnome maybe there you have to look12:10
kent_kay: how do i paste larg text without flooding the chan?12:11
kaylook under google somethign with ubuntu and past12:11
scheuri!pastebin12:11
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)12:11
octankay, run this on cli12:12
octanxev12:12
scheurikay? you are in the kubuntu channel, right?12:12
kayoctan: yes i did but i need to know what keysym can i use not which ui already use12:12
kayscheuri: yes why you asking?12:12
scheurikay: because of:  kent_: and you use i think kubuntu (kde) tis is ubuntu howto and ubuntu use gnome maybe there you have to look12:13
kent_kay: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31644/12:13
kent_i get that error durring the sudo checkinstall stage12:13
kayscheuri: i only want to say it can be problem to install something on a way you have to do it in ubuntu course there is gnome and not kde like in kubuntu12:14
kaykent_: you wanna install somethign for gnome and you have kde12:14
scheurikay: I know...it was just a bit misunderstandable...in my opionion....after all, everything is ubuntu,...KDE is just a GUI12:14
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octankay12:15
kent_kay: he says it works on both12:15
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octanwhat abut xbindkeys ?12:15
kayscheuri: sure btu this is not the proble the problem is that kde and gnome can not run together that ubuntu is (k)ubuntu i know too12:15
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scheurikay: they can actually run togehter...;)...I do it here sometimes (KDE Menu- Switch User - New Session)12:16
kayoctan: octan i search for a list or  table where all keysym are listet have you any idea where i can find it?12:16
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octanyes,, 1 sec.. they are on you pc somewhere.. but i dont rememebr.. hold on and i'll try to find em12:17
kayscheuri: great so let us help him if you or me can12:17
scheurikay: sorry, I did not get the exact problem...12:17
kayoctan: thx12:17
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kayscheuri: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/31644/12:17
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scheurikent_: you are trying to install a .deb on your own?12:18
scheurikent_: using dpkg?12:18
kent_scheuri: nevermind i'm useing the scripted installer i did not see it at the bottom12:19
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scheurikent_: well, I highly suggest that you use aptitude or the repositories...but...well...can not stop you know, can I?12:20
scheuri*or=and12:20
scheuri*know=now12:20
kent_scheuri: the problem is repositories are out of date12:20
scheurikent_: are you on dapper?12:20
kent_scheuri: edgy12:20
scheurikent_: and they are out of date? what are you trying to install?12:21
kent_scheuri: play for sure support for my nomad jukebox zen12:21
kayscheuri: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=19925012:21
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scheurikent_: okay, right...12:22
sergiohi12:22
scheurikent_: sorry then...12:22
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octankay12:24
octan /usr/include/X11/keysymdef.h12:24
kayoctan: thx dude12:24
octannp12:24
octanhope it helps12:24
fribuntuHi all12:25
octanhi12:25
kent_scheuri: it seems noone ever thinks to update the mtp supprot makes me sad :( the stuff in the repositoriys is super old12:25
fribuntuI have a problem with KWallet. KMail and Konqueror never remember my passwords, even if I repeatedly tell them to do so.12:25
kayoctan: not what i realy search but it is helpful thx12:25
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fribuntuIs KWallet broken?12:26
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octankey i would do i diff.. scew the keysums.. if you got the name of the button you have what you need.. just use xbindkeys and , link etc play button to amarok thats how i do it12:28
fribuntuErrm, the version is 6.10 by the way (edgy)12:28
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octan*kay12:28
icheynefribuntu, I am not sure, but I think you have to give your applications permission to access kwallet12:29
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icheynefribuntu, I got around it by giving kwallet an empty password and letting all apps access it all the time12:29
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kayoctan: yes?12:30
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octankay, also if you dont get accsess to all buttons.. try changing to endev in xorg for you keybord.. that helped for my 13 button mouse12:30
kayoctan: wow12:31
fribuntuicheyne: In the kwallet settings, all relevant applications already have permissions set to "always allow".12:31
kayoctan: what is it for a mouse (name)12:31
octanlogitech media play12:31
fribuntuoctan: A 13 button mouse? Are you sure you don't mean your keyboard?12:31
kayoctan: USB12:31
kaylol12:31
octanyes12:31
icheynefribuntu, sorry mate I've no idea then12:32
octanfirephoto, no.. its my mouse12:32
fribuntuicheyne: there are quite a few people ranting about kwallet on the forums. There must be a major kwallet issue with edgy12:32
kayoctan: have you buttons on your mouse which not listet when yu do xev?12:32
octanues12:32
octanyes12:32
fribuntuicheyne: I am just tired of retyping all my passwords every time I boot up.12:32
kayoctan: and now you cant use them? or did you fund a way to make it happend?12:33
octanits a pain in the ass to setup tho12:33
icheynefribuntu, well I have not run into any problems yet. All my passwords get remembered. I think there is a kde channel here. You might try asking there.12:33
kayoctan: so you make now you can use them?12:33
icheynefribuntu, but of course I use firefox and gmail so I am not relying on those apps :-S12:34
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fribuntuicheyne: aha! As far as I know, neither firefox nor thunderbird even use kwallet.12:34
octankay, yes i use them.. to start amarok.. skip song. stuff like that12:34
fribuntuicheyne: So that is "cheating" :)12:34
icheynefribuntu, konqueror just does not do it for me :)12:35
octannature is calling12:35
kayoctan: i have a 11 buttons mouse and the scroll can move to the rigth and the left have you this too?12:35
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fribuntuicheyne: Well, firefox does not do it for me any more. And the KHTML engine is a bit faster than gekko anyhow.12:40
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xylan_cybercafehi all12:40
xylan_cybercafei run dapper, and just upgraded to kde 3.5.512:40
xylan_cybercafethen now i realise theres a pb relativ to usb12:40
octankay yes i got that too12:40
xylan_cybercafeall usb keys give this message12:40
xylan_cybercafeDriver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods12:40
xylan_cybercafe:'(12:41
kayoctan: have you and howto i need it :D12:42
octanno howto.. just my brain.. :P,, what brand is you mouse?12:42
octanpls say logitech :P12:43
kaynope12:43
kaygenius12:43
kayD:12:43
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kaylol12:43
octanhmm12:43
octanusb or ps2?12:43
kayokusb12:43
kayusb12:44
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kayhow you get it to work when you dont see the btton in the xev12:44
kaywhere do yu find it?12:44
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octantrt and erroring is what i did,,'12:45
octan*try12:45
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kayok where do you find the erros i mean i read someting about that when you press the "unknow " button there is an error message where is it12:45
octanfor example12:45
octani use my horizontal scroll to rotate my destop12:46
octan#rotate right12:46
octan"dbus-send --type=method_call --dest=org.freedesktop.compiz /org/freedesktop/compiz/rotate/allscreens/rotate_right org.freedesktop.compiz.activate string:'root' int32:0x52"12:46
octanb:12812:46
octanthats button 12812:46
kayok12:47
xylan_cybercafeanybody for my sd problem ?12:47
kaybut if the button has no keycode12:47
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octanim not 100% sure how it works.. button 1.2.3 get keycodes in xev but not the otherones12:48
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kayoctan: ok i search later for a solution maybe you can tell me if i can for example open the mozilla with one button how must i do it?12:50
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octanthats easy12:50
octanjust use xbindkeys12:50
kayok i saw a howot for it12:51
kayoctan: thx12:51
octannp12:51
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octannow to my problem12:52
octanhow i can merge 2 avi files together? i tryed with avimerge -o big.avi -i small1.avi small2.avi.. but when its close to  700 MB the big.avi file i get segment fault...12:52
sergioavidemux is a good option12:52
octanit will do that?12:53
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octaninstalling it now12:53
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octanman avidemux12:54
octanNo manual entry for avidemux12:54
octan:(12:54
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sergiotry this http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/12:55
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octanok thanks12:56
sergioyou're wellcome12:56
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crustyhallo everibody12:58
crustymy kubuntu do not see my web cam SN9C105...any tips?12:59
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kaycrusty: lsusb what odes it show you?01:01
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crustywhat is odes...im new on kubuntu01:01
juanjo_21hola, alguien que hable espaol y me pueda ayudar?01:02
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kaydoes* sorry01:02
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kaycrusty: me too so type int the shell lsusb01:02
kaycrusty: me too so type in the shell lsusb01:02
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kay!pastebin01:03
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)01:03
lzaphi, has Dapper Drake still support?01:04
lzapno upgrades for weeks now... :-(01:04
octansergio, i cant find anything on merge file.. i see howto split 1 file.. but not howto merge them.. can you help me a bit more out here? pls01:04
lzape.g. newer version of Amarok is out and I have still 1.4.201:04
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Jucato!amarok | lzap01:05
ubotulzap: amarok is an audio player for Linux with an intuitive interface. The latest version is 1.4.3 for Dapper and 1.4.4 for Edgy and packages are available for Kubuntu at www.kubuntu.org01:05
Jucatolzap: the 3-5 year support for Dapper is only guaranteed for security updates, not necessarily version updates01:05
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eilker i Can't find package linux-dri-modules-2.6.15-27-386:( i even search from packages.ubuntu.com....01:11
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eilkerany idea?01:11
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xsachaeilker: that kernel version has no dri modules.. either go back to -26 or upgrade to edgy01:14
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eilkerxsacha: trying for xgl....01:14
excludehello01:14
excludewhat does the apt-index-watch process do?01:14
eilkerxsacha: thanx for useful info01:14
excludeits gobbling up loads of CPU cycles.01:15
lzapJucato: well I see, but it seems all switched to edgy? I should not expect next dapper-backports? :-(01:15
excludeI assume its a deamon to monitor new packages? If so I'd either want it to run less often (max once a day)day)01:15
Jucatolzap: Amarok 1.4.3 is available on Dapper. as for other packages/apps, that really depends01:15
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nidalhi all, is there any tool/command to know which process is causing high iowait ?01:17
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octannidal, high iowait?01:18
nidalyes01:18
nidalI can see it when I give top or sar command01:18
octanwhat you mean.. I/O resures?01:19
nidalbut how do I trace it and know which process is the "culprit" ?01:19
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Dark_Vampire!de01:19
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de01:19
nidalsee, I am having 2 linux boxes clustered together (not kubuntu, redhat ) with a shared storage box01:20
nidaland sometimes the access to the shared storage is dead slow01:20
octanps axjf |grep prosess ?01:20
nidalI was just wondering is there any utility in linux which would help me to find out which process is causing the problem01:20
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nidaloctan, sorry I didnt get you01:21
octannidal, ps axjf gives you a prosess tree01:21
nidalok01:21
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nidalbut how do I come to know the IO activity of those processes ?01:22
octani dont think you will01:22
nidalbecoz, I suspect some "rogue" processes are eating up the IO and screwing up the system01:22
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[GuS] Bonjour les gens...01:25
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GeckoHey there. I'm getting crazy or senile or something. Where are the global settings for $PATH set? I was sure it was /etc/profile01:28
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octanGecko01:29
octan echo $PATH01:29
octan/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games01:29
Geckooctan: yes, I realize it's a variable, but where does it come from? Some file must include that line in order for it to be set on login01:29
octanyesll ls.conf.so01:30
octanerm01:30
octanld.conf.so01:30
octanin /etc01:30
Geckooctan: no that's for libraries01:30
octanright01:31
Geckooctan: see for your self. It contains no paths :)01:31
octanwhat?01:31
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Geckoeh, no $PATH's01:31
octanwhat does not have path?01:31
Geckonevermind ;)01:31
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GeckoMy hangover has too high a 'nice' value, and I can't seem to 'renice' it... ;)01:32
octanLOL01:32
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Jucatooctan: I think he's looking for what file contains the $PATH variable? from what file $PATH reads it01:32
octanaha01:33
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octancat /etc/bash_completion |grep PATH01:33
octanther ya go01:33
octan PATH=$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/sbin type $1 &>/dev/null && bla bla bla bla01:34
Geckoin bash_completion?01:34
octanya01:34
Geckothat's some suprise01:34
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GeckoThe /only/ file I didn't check :)01:35
octanheh.. its usaly like that :p01:36
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Schalkenwhat are the implications of making a symlink from /root to ~/ (such that root's directory becomes my home directory)? would root then use all my kde configuration?01:39
GeckoSchalken: yes, and you would have lots of problems, because everything in /root is owned by root and not yourself01:40
SchalkenGecko: oh yeah, point.01:40
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Schalkenbut if the files in there are already owned by me, will they become owned by root as soon as root uses them?01:41
Tm_TNot only that, root is special user and youre regular, so there's lots of thing that should be handled differently. Atleast that's how I see it.01:41
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Tm_TSchalken: As soon as any changes occurs.01:41
Tm_TAnd I can't figure out what are advantages in that anyway.01:42
intelikeyshalom01:42
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Tm_Tintelikey: Moin.01:42
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Schalkenits just that all my kde configuration isnt used when i run programs (like adept or other system configuration stuff)01:42
Tm_Tintelikey: Nice, you irc as root?01:42
Schalkenas root01:43
intelikeyTm_T no  root is just a name01:43
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Geckointelikey: but uid=0 is pretty special01:43
Tm_TSchalken: And? Shouldn't it be obvious when you do things as root? It's better be seen well than just by asking password.01:43
Tm_TSchalken: So, when you see something different than your settings, you notice it.01:44
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Tm_TSchalken: BUT if you really wan't change root settings, run kcontrol as root?01:44
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SchalkenTm_T: well that wouldnt be the case if i didnt change any of the settings01:44
intelikeyGecko yeah i know that.  but an irc client doesn't read uid it reads irc-username  and or  ircname01:44
Tm_TSchalken: True that.01:44
Tm_TSchalken: I change settings as first task, so I rarely see any defaults. =)01:45
GeckoSchalken: if you just want your kde configuration, you could just do a cp -r ~/.kde/ /root/ ; sudo chown root:root -R /root/.kde/01:45
SchalkenTm_T: OR, what if, say, once everything is the way i like it, i copy all the config into /root?01:45
SchalkenGecko: like that? :P01:45
Tm_TGecko: Not wise, there's lots of other things than just settings.01:45
octanwhy in hell do you whant to run kde as root ?01:46
GeckoSchalken: if you like that, you should probably back up your old config. I have too much of a hangover to think of the consequences ;)01:46
octansetup a sudo account without password01:46
SchalkenGecko: what old config? there isnt anything in /root other than a folder i put in there.01:47
GeckoSchalken: there might be some hidden ones. Did you do a ls -la?01:47
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Geckobut I think Tm_T is right in it's a bad idea01:47
octanit is01:47
SchalkenGecko: ah, yes, hidden once (i thought it was ls -l, but it is ls -a for hidden)01:48
intelikeyGecko i'd dare say that allan is a root jr. acconunt on your box and if one could ssh in as allan they would have pretty much the run of the place...  seeing that ssh-server is not installed by default that's not a worry... however there is no root login on this box and even if you could exploit this irc client you would not have root access because i'm not root not even root jr..01:48
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octanits the stupest ide all day :P01:48
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Tm_Toctan: Shush.01:48
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octanhehe01:48
Geckointelikey: by root jr. you mean what? also uid=0 or sudo with no passwd or what?01:49
Tm_TSchalken: As I said, run kconfigure as root and configure as you like, it's safest you can get, but don't run whole KDE as root ever.01:49
SchalkenTm_T: i dont, just sysconfig apps01:49
intelikeyGecko un-restricted sudoer01:49
Geckointelikey: well, you're welcome to try ;)01:50
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Tm_TSchalken: Then running kcontrol should be safe bet, do that and be happy. ;)01:50
intelikeyGecko i'm not in that business :)    but it can be done.  ;/01:50
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SchalkenTm_T: but then everytime i make changes i have to do it as root as well, doubling the amount of input i have to make when making cosmetic changes to my desktop.01:51
Tm_TSchalken: True, and still safest, but you do as you like.01:52
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Jucatoit's actually a good idea sometimes to have root use a different theme/appearance from your normal user theme, just to provide a visual reminder that you are running as root01:52
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intelikeyTm_T "but don't run whole KDE as root ever."  paranoid ?01:53
Tm_TOR if you know those specific config files, then symlink them, but not whole ~/.kde01:53
Tm_Tintelikey: Just don't like to hear if something breaks.01:53
doet en francais ca parle de quoi?01:53
Tm_Tintelikey: Well known way to easily mess a lot of things.01:53
SchalkenJucato: we discussed that earlier: if that were a point at all kubuntu would come with such a feature by default.01:53
Jucato!fr01:53
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.01:53
JucatoSchalken: I did say "sometimes"01:54
docomment faire01:54
SchalkenJucato: okay, so if your someone who likes to have it that way ;)01:54
Tm_TSchalken: Can't remember rightaway what files contained visual settings.01:54
Jucatodepends on which visual component01:54
Schalkenany idea where the system-wide, default user kde settings are?01:55
JucatoSchalken: /usr/share most of them, some in /etc/kde3 too01:55
intelikeyTm_T hmmm i am not in a habit of running a gui as root but have several times, never seen any adverse affect from it.    heard the same report form others.   but i do understand that there is increased risks, in that one can hose the whole system as root...01:55
SchalkenJucato: 'some here and some there' :S01:56
JucatoSchalken: unfortunately, that's the way Linux works...01:56
Tm_Tintelikey: IIRC it can affect to some Xorg things that mess some foofoo stuff, I don't know specific.01:56
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intelikeyTm_T that's a kdm specific thing (one that i consider a bug) kdm uses /root/ as a temp dir no matter who logs in,  thus all users write to /root/  and imo thats a bug.01:58
Schalkenwhat does a sysadmin have to do to make it so every user can't change their desktop configuration (eg style, kicker config, network settings), and instead uses a central configuration which is easily maintained?01:58
Jucatokiosk?01:58
Tm_Tintelikey: I see, anyway, don't like to hear complaints so better to tell do it safe way.01:58
SchalkenJucato: whats that?01:59
Jucatoer... kiosktool I think... a KDE app to lockdown user options. I just heard of it. never used it actually01:59
Schalkenherrrrrmm :S02:00
intelikeyTm_T using [g,x] dm prevents that problem, even if your desktop is kde.     and yes i don't advice people to gui as root.  but i wont tell them DONT, either.02:00
intelikeyand wasnt trying to change you :)02:00
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Tm_Tintelikey: I know.02:01
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visik7I've a laptop with an ethernet and a wlan bot work now I want to route the http traffic through  ethernet and the rest through wireless02:02
SchalkenJucato: is kiosk secure? that is, is there any way for a user to bypass it and change their settings (eg. proxy)?02:03
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JucatoSchalken: I think it's secure enough. some KDE devs blogged about it before, iirc02:03
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SchalkenJucato: doesn't look that bad, actually.02:04
octanvisik7, iptables02:05
visik7iptables can't02:05
intelikeyTm_T fact of the matter is. imo ubuntu's root jr. aproach to security is in-affactive at best and misleading in general.   sudo is a good app but the default anyone in admin group can do anything, is not one bit safer than setting a root passwd.  and in fact, leads some to think that their system can't be hacked when actually a weak root jr. passwd is less secure than a strong root passwd.02:05
octaniptables can02:05
visik7iptables can't on packet generated locally02:06
murchadhLogging in as root bad:- http://www.brunolinux.com/01-First_Things_To_Know/Su_and_Root.html02:06
octanjust use forward with iptables02:06
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visik7iptables can with packet that need to be forward  not with the one locally generated02:07
octanyou can forward port 80 to ip of ethX02:07
Tm_Tintelikey: True.02:08
visik7the problem is that for example02:08
visik7octan: for example firefox binds itself on the iface that contact the default route02:09
intelikeywell </rant> i'll get back on-topic.02:09
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SchalkenJucato: Kiosk is actually a great tool, however it doesnt provide a way to change the settings of a profile. Eg, change the desktop background of the 'default' profile.02:10
Jucatoah02:10
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SchalkenJucato: which really makes it useless for a system admin who wants the defaults to be something other than what came with the distro.02:11
octanvisik7, did you try something like iptables -A FORWARD -p tcp -i wlan(ip) -d eth0(Ip) --dport 80 -j ACCEPT02:11
visik7it's useless02:12
SchalkenJucato: any idea how i can change the settings of a profile intuitively (via kontrol)?02:12
octanpreroute ?02:12
intelikeymurchadh hehhe that link is interesting, but if it comes to protecting the system form the human  just unplug the box... or at least mount / read only and then remove the device nodes.....  that would pretty much protect the os from the user.02:12
SchalkenTm_T: ?02:12
JucatoSchalken: I'm out of ideas..02:12
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Schalkenanyway i g2g02:13
Schalkensee ya tomorrow maybe02:13
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murchadhintelikey: Hehe... Yeah PEBCAC! Problem Exists Between Chair And Computer! Users suck, even when they're root! People in hats....02:15
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intelikey:)02:15
intelikeyit's pebcak02:16
georgebhi guys (and girls); what would you recommend as replacement for Yahoo Mess ? I now use kopete, which seems ok, just that file transfer doesn't work, and some other minor issues; I also used gaim some time ago, but it was too basic, and afaik it didn't change much02:16
murchadh!konversation02:17
ubotukonversation: user friendly Internet Relay Chat (IRC) client for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 5027 kB, installed size 12988 kB02:17
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intelikey!gaim02:17
ubotuInstant Messenger Clients: Gaim (GNOME, http://help.ubuntu.com/community/GaimHowto), Kopete (KDE), both supporting MSN, Jabber, AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ and IRC.02:17
intelikeypick your take02:17
intelikeypick your friends02:18
intelikeypick your nose02:18
intelikeybut don't pick your friends noes02:18
murchadhTake your pick, unless you need a shovel!02:18
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georgebintelikey: I need a yahoo messenger replacement; konversation (which I currently use *now*) is only for IRC; and Gaim I already said that I think it's too old :)02:20
intelikeyyou think gaim is too old ?02:21
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intelikey!amsn02:22
ubotuamsn: An MSN messenger written in tcl. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.95-2.1 (edgy), package size 2261 kB, installed size 7752 kB02:22
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georgebintelikey: well, I used gaim some 3 years ago, and from what I see it didn't change much, also from what I remember Gaim 2.0 is in development for some time02:24
intelikey!info gaim02:24
ubotugaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.0.0+beta3.1-1ubuntu9 (edgy), package size 1311 kB, installed size 3712 kB02:24
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intelikeyhmmm thats b302:25
intelikey!info gaim dapper02:25
ubotugaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1ubuntu10 (dapper), package size 816 kB, installed size 2148 kB02:25
georgebintelikey: aha.. I just fired it up, and I was wondering when stealth settings appeared :) It looks like I already have 2.002:26
intelikey!info gaim hoary02:26
ubotugaim: multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.1.4-1ubuntu4.4 (hoary), package size 825 kB, installed size 2148 kB02:26
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intelikeyit was 1.1 a year and a half ago02:27
intelikey1.5 a year ago   and 2.0 bata 3 now.02:27
intelikeytoo old ?02:27
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ubuntu !  -   !?!?!02:28
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intelikeyubuntu english here,  or /join #ubuntu-ko   or what ever that is...02:30
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eilkerhi i wanna save my pc screens as video file, do u suggest me a program. (i installed xgl, i wanna share with my friends)02:31
yamal!ru02:31
ubotuPozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help02:31
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georgeb!istambul02:32
octanvisik7,02:32
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about istambul - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:32
georgeb!istanbul | eilker02:32
eilkergeorgeb: istanbul ??02:32
ubotuistanbul: Desktop session recorder. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.1-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 47 kB, installed size 380 kB02:32
eilkergeorgeb: this is the city that i live:)))02:33
georgeb!screencast02:33
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about screencast - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:33
georgebeilker: hah, funny; some friend gave it a try and was pretty impressed02:33
georgebeilker: I mean the program :)02:33
octanvisik7,  try something like..  iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport www -j -o wlan DROP   && iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp ! --dport www -j -o eth0 -j ACCEPT02:34
eilkergeorgeb: i see, i was so suprised when you call ubotu for istanbul:)))02:34
georgebeilker: there are some more programs listed at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi?search=istanbul02:34
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eilkergeorgeb: thanx friend02:34
octanerm.. last one had 1 ! thats not suppose to be there02:35
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octanwell.. like this iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp ! --dport www -j -o eth0 -j DROP  :p02:35
wydocqsalutation02:36
intelikeywydocq howdy02:37
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intelikey!az02:38
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about az - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:38
octan!ass02:38
octan:P02:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about ass - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:39
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intelikey!td02:39
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about td - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi02:39
intelikeyhmmm02:39
octanwhat are you looking for ?02:40
intelikey!af02:40
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ubotuaf: An Emacs-like mail reader and composer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.3-3 (edgy), package size 427 kB, installed size 1432 kB02:40
intelikeythat aint it.02:40
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octanis  ther a way i can lock alsa to a spesific volume ? like lock it at 1/2 volume ?02:43
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SlimGi get "aclocal: Command not found" while trying to compile in kdevelop, what ubuntu package contains aclocal?02:49
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linhi all02:50
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BluesKajHowdy All! :)02:53
intelikeyanyone know how to enter text in elinks  it keeps grabbing the letters and using them as hotkeys...  ?02:53
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octanEKA GIMME SOME02:54
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wilmandoes edgy has xorg 7.0?03:02
filip_is there a command for creating files in the terminal?03:02
intelikey!info xserver-xorg03:02
ubotuxserver-xorg: the X.Org X server. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 164 kB, installed size 584 kB03:02
intelikey7.103:03
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filip_i need to creat a .desktop file in the application folder.. how do i di that03:04
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filip_i need to creat a .desktop file in the application folder.. how do i di that03:04
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intelikeyyou can di that by several means a text editor would be the choice if the file is not supposed to be blank.03:05
SlimGi get "aclocal: Command not found" while trying to compile in kdevelop, what ubuntu package contains aclocal?03:05
twosouls82filip_: just use the right click of konqi in a folder and select new link to application03:05
intelikey: > /path/filename.desktop    if it is to be blank.03:06
twosouls82you can also use "nano -w <name>.desktop" and create one by hand L)03:06
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intelikeyor touch /path/filename.desktop   if it might already exist and you don't want to blank it.03:06
intelikeynano is a text editor03:06
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twosouls82so?03:07
twosouls82afraid of them?03:07
intelikeythat explains that i guess....03:07
filip_hmm.. it said that its not possible to write the file in the application folder.03:08
filip_How do i do to create a file there?03:08
intelikey!sudo03:08
ubotusudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.03:08
twosouls82filip_: you need to be root to do so, "kdesu konqueror <folder location"03:08
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eilkergeorgeb: do u use istanbul in xgl ? cant it be used in berly desktop ?03:12
filip_cabt get ut ti work03:13
filip_to*03:13
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eilkerfilip_: ?03:13
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filip__well i cant creat the file and i can not do the root thing. :)03:14
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filip__the command gksudo is not found03:15
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Jucatouse kdesu in Kubuntu03:15
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BluesKajwhat about"mkdir ~/.filename"  ?03:16
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Jucatoer.. kdesu to launch GUI apps as root, sudo on the command line03:17
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Jucatowhat's he trying to do btw? (came in late)03:17
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filip__install linux dcpp03:17
filip__dc++03:17
Jucatoah03:18
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kimmernhey! anyone know how to make a vcd out of a avi file? can't find any functions in k3b..03:18
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kimmernhey! anyone know how to make a vcd out of a avi file? can't find any functions in k3b.03:18
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LjLkimmern, don't repeat please. i don't know of a specific software that does what you want, but ffmpeg (or mencoder, or...) should do it if you set the right conversion parameters03:19
BluesKajkimmern, devede24 will do it for you03:19
filip__whats the command to create a file in kubuntu? from the konsole03:19
LjLbasically a VCD is an MPEG file with a specific format (320xwhatever, etc)03:19
LjLfilip__: touch03:19
Jucatohm... I need an app like that too... anything that makes it easier (GUI perhaps?)03:19
LjLkimmern, after you have the mpeg, there are tools to make it into an actual VCD03:19
BluesKajI would recommend tovid, but it's still unstable03:19
LjL!info vcdimager03:20
ubotuvcdimager: A VideoCD (VCD) image mastering and ripping tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.23-3 (edgy), package size 514 kB, installed size 1000 kB03:20
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kimmernLjL: sorry..didnt't mean to repeat myself..thought I was in another channel03:20
LjL!info vcdtools03:20
ubotuvcdtools: Creates Video CD (VCD) filesystem images. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4-2 (edgy), package size 29 kB, installed size 108 kB03:20
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LjLthere certainly are GUI tools to facilitate this. but i can't see any in the repositories03:20
Jucatoah. thanks anyway :)03:21
Jucatonothing really beats Nero in that sense... encoding to VCD then burn... or I haven't found one yet...03:21
LjLtried arson?03:21
BluesKaj!devede2403:21
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about devede24 - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi03:21
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kimmernthanks for your answers!03:22
LjLthe description doesn't mention it, but then there sometimes *are* features that are not in the description of packages...03:22
LjLVLC is a GUI tools as well. guess it doesn't have pre-defined settings for VCD, but still03:22
Jucatohm.. I'll try it :)03:22
Jucatoarson I mean...03:22
filip__ LjL: faild.. i tried this command: kdesu touch /usr/share/applications/linuxdcpp.desktop03:22
LjLfilip__: and?03:23
filip__and it s suppose to create the file?03:23
JucatoLjL: thanks for pointing out Arson. It's interesting (and in our repos, too!)03:23
filip__but it soesnt.03:23
filip__doesnt*03:23
LjLfilip__: so does "ls /usr/share/applications/linuxdcpp.desktop" give any output?03:24
BluesKajarson is audio cd burning software03:24
filip__no..03:24
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JucatoBluesKaj: it's not only audio cd03:24
LjLJucato, kimmern: arson is probably a decent alternative to k3b. if it still can't create VCDs, though, i really suggest trying out VLC's graphical interface (File / Open file / Advanced options / Stream / Settings) - then just look up on Wikipedia or something what the VCD format is03:25
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LjLand then something like vcdimager should do the job easily enough i suppose, even if it's command line03:25
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filip__LjL: nothing happens03:25
JucatoLjL: hm.. I still have to convert the .avi to .mpeg in any case, right?03:25
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BluesKajLjL, ever heard of devede24 ?03:25
LjLJucato, no, well yes, but it's VLC the one doing that03:26
JucatoBluesKaj: are you absolutely sure about Arson?03:26
LjLfilip__: i don't know if that's your problem, but you should only use "kdesu" for GUI applications. for commands like touch, just use sudo03:26
intelikeyecho "" | sudo /usr/share/applications/linuxdcpp.desktop03:26
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LjLsudo touch /usr/share/applications/linuxdcpp.desktop03:26
LjLintelikey, uh?03:26
BluesKajno Jucato, not absolutely03:26
LjLBluesKaj: heard of it, yes, but really just heard of03:27
JucatoBluesKaj: http://arson.sourceforge.net/ "Arson has expanded to be a CD ripper (with many output formats), a VCD/Music/Data burner, a CD copier, a device unlocker, and a CDRW blanker."03:27
intelikeyLjL hehhe yaeh left out the redirrect didn't i.03:27
intelikeyecho "" | sudo > /usr/share/applications/linuxdcpp.desktop03:27
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LjLintelikey, well yes ;) anyway touch is made for that, it really should work03:27
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intelikeythat look better03:27
BluesKajJucato, LjL,  but I am about devede2403:27
LjLintelikey, sudo expects a parameter03:27
kimmernLjL: I'm converting the avi to mpeg using AvideMux...then i'll burn the file using k3b!..found it on ubuntuforums..was the easy way, so i'll try that first!03:28
intelikeytee it then03:28
filip__LjL: but it does not for me03:28
JucatoBluesKaj: it's a DVD creator, can it create VCD's too?03:28
LjLintelikey, it would be   sudo sh -c "echo >/usr/share/applications/linuxdcpp.desktop"03:28
BluesKajyes03:28
LjLbut touch really should work03:28
Jucato!devede03:28
ubotudevede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB03:28
JucatoI'll try both :)03:28
Jucatotomorrow hehehe03:28
filip__hm.. what is the command to delete a file?03:29
intelikeyfilip__ i'm susspecting that the dir may not exist03:29
filip__or a folder03:29
Jucatoso I have VLC, Arson, and devede to try tomorrow03:29
LjLwell, the description doesn't mention it03:29
intelikeyrm03:29
LjLUbotu, please tell filip__ about cli03:29
BluesKajJucato, have fun :)03:29
LjLintelikey, could be, but it would be very strange if /usr/share/applications didn't exist i think03:29
Jucatoyeah.. tomorrow is my "setup" day. I'm going to try a printer/scanner that my sister brought home :)03:29
LjLfilip__: try "touch ~/testfile ; ls ~/testfile"   , do you get any output?03:30
intelikeyLjL true enough03:30
BluesKajI thought VLC was merely a very versatile player , not a convertor03:30
LjLBluesKaj: it's both03:30
octanis ther a tool that can listen on a file for changes? i dont wanna run a loop to check for changes on 1 line.03:30
BluesKajone can capture VLC output ?03:30
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filip__LjL: yup.03:31
LjLBluesKaj, no need to "capture" it, just tell it to stream it to some file (in any supported format)03:31
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LjLfilip__: try it once again please,   sudo touch /usr/share/applications/linuxdcpp.desktop ; ls /usr/share/applications/linuxdcpp.desktop03:32
BluesKajok, LjL , that's news , but good news ...always open to new options :)03:32
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filip__no output.03:33
Digital_PioneerIs it safe to put Debian testing repositories into my sources.llist?03:33
LjLfilip__, "ls /usr/share/applications" does give output, doesn't it?03:33
Digital_Pioneer*sources.list03:33
filip__i managed to create a folder with the samename i suppose thats a big problem?03:33
LjLDigital_Pioneer: not at all03:33
intelikeyLjL but sudo echo >  wont work cause the terminal is not root and that's what is redirrected,    : | sudo tee filename    then the file will be writen by root even though the output to terminal is not root.03:33
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filip__how do i delete folder rm doesnt work03:33
LjLintelikey, that's why i used sudo sh -c "...."03:33
Digital_PioneerLjL: So I definitely shouldn't do it?03:33
filip__yes.03:34
LjLintelikey: the redirection is inside the sh command line, so it's executed by root03:34
LjLDigital_Pioneer: precisely03:34
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JucatoDigital_Pioneer: definitely shouldn't03:34
filip__ls /usr/share/applications gives output.03:34
Digital_PioneerLjL: Are there any Debian repositories I could safely use?03:34
intelikeyLjL yes    and there is never a right way.... there is your way my way and another way :)03:34
LjLfilip__: "rmdir" removes empty directories.   "rm -r" removes anything that's inside a given directory, and can be dangerous if you misuse it anyhow03:34
LjLfilip__: "man rm" first03:34
Jucatomost (if not all) of the packages that Ubuntu has are from Debian03:35
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LjLintelikey, but "touch" exists precisely for creating empty files ;-)03:35
LjL(and for touching existing files)03:35
Digital_PioneerWell, OK, thanks. :)03:35
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intelikeyLjL ?    yes glad you added that second part03:35
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LjLintelikey, 'course we know there are 100 different ways to do something on unix, but then there are commands that are quite specific to do something03:36
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LjLintelikey, for that matter, i use "gunzip blah.tar.gz ; tar -x -f blah.tar" to uncompress files, because i'm used to that, but i'm definitely aware it's not the most reasonable way03:36
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intelikeylike wget for instants03:37
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LjLintelikey: yeah. you could use netcat, or heck, telnet to download files, but that wouldn't make much sense when there's wget :D03:37
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LjLfilip__, anyway, since we're out of options, do try     sudo sh -c "echo >/usr/share/applications/linuxdcpp.desktop"03:38
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LjLor tee as intellikey said, shouldn't really make a difference03:38
filip__YES! the touch command worked finaly.03:38
LjLfilip__: like what?03:38
intelikey:)03:38
filip__well somehow i mangage to creat a folder with the same name03:39
LjLhm? same name as what?03:39
filip__as the file supposed to be created03:39
LjLoh03:39
filip__didnt see it at first03:39
LjLso "ls" was empty because it was listing an empty directory...03:39
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filip__exactly03:39
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filip__LjL: thank you for your patience03:40
filip__:)03:40
intelikeyLjL inverse reason i gave eariler dir does exist   rather than parent dir doesn't exist....03:40
LjLheh03:40
LjLintelikey:  "Error: success"03:40
intelikeysomething like that   :)03:40
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LjLKeyboard does not respond, press F1 to continue03:41
intelikeyprogram failed because it finished.03:41
intelikeyLjL i have seen that [f1]  message from bios03:42
intelikeymakes me wonder if i might have writen it in my sleep or something.......   looks like some of my posts in here.03:43
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intelikeyor this one.  E: program exited with exit code 003:44
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LjLintelikey: yes it's a BIOS message, though what it really says (on the BIOSes i've seen) is "Keyboard error. Press F1 to continue"03:48
LjL"error" is a bit more generic, so i changed it into something even more idiotic ;)03:49
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intelikeyyeah but it only occures if the keyboard is not responsive....  :)     still as dumb as a box of rocks...03:50
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intelikeyi have had one section of a keyboard die and the bios not notice it.  hard to do much when almost 25% of the keys have no affect....03:51
LjLintelikey, i could bet there is a "Video subsystem failure" BIOS error that gets printed on the screen, though for obvious reasons nobody will ever see it... =)03:52
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intelikeylol03:52
intelikeyyeah i bet there is !!!03:52
LjLaw, that happened on my poor Psion :(03:52
intelikey:)03:52
alexiconwhats the gtk sudo program called?03:52
LjLalexicon: gksudo03:52
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alexiconta03:53
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intelikeyidle "food" !03:53
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filip_is there any klient for DC that is similar to fulDC?04:01
filip_for linux?04:01
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crustykay...still there?04:06
LjLfilip_, the two graphical clients i know of are dcgui and valknut04:07
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chris123__greets04:08
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crustyther is anybody out there with can tell me how to make kubuntu see my webcam? SN 9C10504:09
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murchadhfilip_: Dunno what fulDC looks like. I use dcpp. Recomended by a friend for technical reasons which were over my head. Works well though!04:09
chris123__Im getting a GPG errer with apt-get fro http://kubuntu.org edgy Release, not seen this one. Was wondering were on the home page or other do I grab the key from?04:10
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intelikey!webcam04:12
ubotuwebcam is now easy to install on Linux; instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam Supported cams: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimediaWebCameras04:12
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klerfaytif I recompile the kernel then I have to manually patch it once security updates are available?04:13
intelikeyonce or twice04:13
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crustythanks ubotu...ill have a look04:15
intelikey!botsnack04:15
ubotuYum!04:15
Jucatois cupsys the only thing I need to install to get printers working?04:16
Jucatoany KDE-specific thing to install?04:16
klerfaytintelikey: hmm so if I decide to recompile the kernel I have to keep watching kernel security news somewhere?04:16
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intelikeyhttp://kernel.org04:17
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klerfaytintelikey: eh; what about apt-get update? and then if kernel-source is updated I recompile?04:18
intelikeyJucato idk about kubuntu-desktop but kde depends on all you need.04:18
Jucatointelikey: I don't have kubuntu-desktop installed either, that's why I'm asking hehehe04:19
JucatoI only have kde-core installed, plus a few other apps.04:19
intelikeyklerfayt what if ubuntu updates something that kernel.org doesn't  you recompile for naught.04:19
intelikeyJucato ok.  let me look....04:19
Jucatointelikey: thanks. first time to install/use a printer (3-in-1) tomorrow... so I'm a bit anxoius/nervous04:20
klerfaytintelikey: but isn't this logical choice if I recompiled using ubuntu kernel?04:20
gemidjyanyone checkout this (i get that when I try to reinstall kaffeine, first I removed it): http://pastebin.com/82415204:20
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chris123__jucato did you check the hardware db04:20
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Jucatoah not yet. anyway, I'll do so tomorrow... about to hit the sack in a few04:21
Jucatohm... it's an HP printer... I wonder if it has Linux drivers on the CD... hehehe04:21
intelikeylibcupsimage2 cupsys cupsys-client libcupsys2 cupsys-driver-gutenprint      i think that's all you need Jucato04:21
Jucatoah thanks04:22
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Th3_Cr0up13Rhey guys im trying to run something exe with wine but its not working anymore  ASPI not initialised i get04:22
Th3_Cr0up13Rany ideas what have i done wrong?04:22
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Th3_Cr0up13Rstill learning04:22
chris123__jucato: unless it was build last week I wouldnt count on it.04:22
Jucatoheheh thanks.04:22
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gemidjyanyone checkout this (i get that when I try to reinstall kaffeine, first I removed it): http://pastebin.com/82415204:23
mikel28microsoft has taken over firefox :| http://www.msfirefox.com/microsoft-firefox/index.html04:23
chris123__anyone have any info on GPG keys for http://kubunut.org edgy Release, I keep getting errors04:23
intelikeyJucato you might want to add  gutenprint-doc   if you do anything fancy with the printer04:23
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intelikeyhaving the docs is always handy04:23
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Jucatocupsys itself installs a few other things. but it doesn't install cupsys-client..hm...04:23
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Th3_Cr0up13Rcan anyone tell me how do i initialize ASPI for win32 in ubuntu04:26
intelikeylocal gas well blew out last night.... lots of fire and noise,  i doubt it makes the news. nobody was killed.04:26
Th3_Cr0up13Rnever done this before and not so much time04:26
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BluesKajintelikey, where is that ?04:27
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intelikeyBluesKaj US rural04:27
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BluesKajyeah intelikey, but where in US ?04:28
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BluesKajok, nm04:29
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muzzleIf I want to code a little game with very little use of graphics in C# which lib. should I use to make it run perfect on Kubuntu?04:32
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intelikey!gtk04:32
ubotugtk is the gimp toolkit, which forms the base of Gnome and a lot of other applications04:32
intelikey!qt04:33
ubotuqt is the Q toolkit, which forms the base of KDE and a lot of other applications. For the Qt includes, install the libqt3-mt-dev package.04:33
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muzzlewhich one is best documented? =)04:33
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muzzleI think gtk has some documentation lacks, as far as I know04:34
intelikeyidk04:34
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GrandConMaladeQt is extremely well documented.04:36
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muzzleGrandConMalade: Okay cool :)04:37
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muzzleGrandConMalade: Which IDE would you suggest?04:38
GrandConMaladeI'll disappoint you, I use emacs =)04:38
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muzzlehehe ok04:38
GrandConMaladeBut I think Code::blocks or Eclipse or Kdevelop rulez04:39
muzzleare there any good c# bindings?04:39
GrandConMaladeNop04:39
muzzleokay04:39
GrandConMaladethe most known C#/Qt binding is at larval state04:39
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muzzlewhat about gtk then?04:39
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muzzleIf I want to use C#04:39
GrandConMaladeGTK#04:39
GrandConMaladeis the most indicated04:40
GrandConMaladeWith MonoDevelop04:40
muzzleok04:40
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muzzleGrandConMalade: know what I should apt-get to get gtk# libs?04:42
Scythe128anyone here think that the kde development team should put a sudo command in the menu ?04:42
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Scythe128like right click an item and click runas?04:42
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GrandConMalademuzzle: I suggest you to just apt-get monodevelop04:43
CPrgmSwR2I am configures if I download kubuntu edgy - can I continue to upgrade I will I have to burn a new cd later on?04:43
CPrgmSwR2configures = confused04:44
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murchadhScythe128: If you right-click on a menu item it should give you the option to "Put in run dialog..", then put sudo or kdesu before the command in the dialog that pops up!04:45
murchadhScythe128: Or click the options button of that dialogue, and run as root!04:46
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Scythe128brb, gotta restart x04:46
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Omnifrogwhat in the world is the /mnt/data tree all about? which file system is real?04:49
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intelikey"<Scythe128> 1anyone here think...should put a sudo command in the menu   2 like right click an item and click runas?"  i thought there was already.  also as to kde menu isn't [alt] +[f2]   or  run command   an option ?04:50
intelikeyOmnifrog mount04:50
intelikeyor cat /proc/mounts04:51
DaSkreechScythe128: YOu can do that with Alt+F204:51
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Omnifrogno, in edgy theres a whole mirror of the root file system located in /mnt/data/04:51
Scythe128it would be quicker to do it from a contextual menu though04:51
DaSkreechScythe128: How?04:52
Omnifrog# ls /mnt/data04:52
Omnifrogbin   dev  home  lost+found  mnt  proc  public_html  sbin  success  tmp  var04:52
Omnifrogboot  etc  lib   media       opt  pub   root         srv   sys      usr04:52
Omnifrogsee ^^^04:52
intelikeyOmnifrog cat /proc/mounts    should tell you what's mounted where04:52
Scythe128you already have to right click to get the command into the run dialog (I dont have the cli command for every program I would run as root memorized), why not just have it as a menu.. one less step04:53
Omnifrogi know whats mounted, all 4 drives worth04:53
DaSkreechOmnifrog: You can mount the same device twice04:53
DaSkreechThat could be what happened04:53
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Omnifrogbut why is there a mirror of the root (/) file system in /mnt/data04:54
Omnifrogwhats if for?04:54
intelikeycause someone thought it was a good idea....04:54
Scythe128anyone have problems running things using the runcommand as root?  I have had that problem with synaptic, and konquerer04:54
DaSkreechOmnifrog: Ohh I know why04:55
Omnifrogfor instance, why is alsaconf in /mnt/data/usr/sbin/alsaconf but not in /sbin?04:55
DaSkreechThey hid the file system in Konqueror04:55
intelikeyif i had edgy i'm sure i would umount /mnt/* and rm -r /mnt    but i don't have edgy so i don't need to do that.04:55
Omnifrogya, thats really annoying04:55
DaSkreechOmnifrog: You can disable it04:56
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Omnifrogoh, cool. i will do that. but dealling with these 2 file systems is hurting my brain04:56
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intelikeyrm /.hiden ; : > /.hiden      as root      will "unhide" the root system.04:57
Omnifrogis this more of that upstart nonsence04:57
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BluesKajI still have several older kernels listed in the grub bootloader on the hda3 partition. Do i need them ?04:57
DaSkreechBluesKaj: No but I thought you would appreciate the older stuff :)04:58
Scythe128will you boot to them sometime?04:58
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Omnifrogah, thanks intelikey04:58
BluesKajthe loader totally ignores tem and loads edgy04:58
DaSkreechOh None edgy stuff04:58
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BluesKajDaSkreech, ok :)04:58
Scythe128are they in the boot menu or just in menu.list04:59
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intelikeyOmnifrog upstart   same team i guess.04:59
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intelikeymaybe even same guy    idk.05:00
intelikey!hiden05:00
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about hiden - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi05:00
intelikey!hidden05:00
ubotuKubuntu Edgy has implemented a new feature that hides most of the filesystem. For more information: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles05:00
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BluesKajScythe128, I tried editing them out but they won't go away ...on the bootup page whatever that is called05:00
DaSkreechI think it was Seveas that did hidden05:00
BluesKajwhere I can choose between Windows or Linux05:01
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Scythe128are you using a diff. menu.list in your grub configuration?05:01
wilman4 days to go05:01
wilmanhehe05:01
wilmanthe new beryl05:02
intelikeyBluesKaj /boot/grub/menu.lst ?05:02
intelikeyBluesKaj do you have more than one linux installed ?05:02
Scythe128mae culpa... I have been putting an i in there05:02
intelikeyScythe128 barrowed my spelling did you ?05:03
intelikeygive it back...05:03
intelikey:)05:03
BluesKajI had dapper and upgraded from the net to edgy ...my linux partition has almost 30G on it ...does that tell you anything ?05:03
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Scythe128not really blueskaj05:04
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kent_hey i accedently got rid of my system icons where it shows armork and any other background runnings apps how do i get it back?05:04
Scythe128you could have 8 different menu.lst's on there .. it depend on where grub (stage 1??) is pointing05:04
intelikeyBluesKaj why i asked.  you may have more than one grub installed, especally if you have more than one linux   thus editing the menu.lst for the wrong one.....05:04
BluesKajwell , i have several older kernels in the list at bootup , but only edgy boots up05:05
Scythe128intel said it better :)05:05
Scythe128the rest wont boot when you select them?05:05
BluesKajno05:05
BluesKajwell yes , but they boot into edgy05:06
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DaSkreechkent_: What?05:06
Scythe128hehe, I could never use lilo... grub is sufficient for most.. itll even chain boot itself :)05:07
Scythe128course the reason I couldnt05:07
intelikeyScythe128 but it can only boot what bios can boot.05:07
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kent_DaSkreech: you know where it shows you system icons in the lower right i accedently colsed it how do i get it back?05:08
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Scythe128you can use map to modify that a little05:08
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BluesKajintelikey,, Scythe128, I didn't mean to misguide you ...any of the listed kernels boots into edgy05:08
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Scythe128the reason I cant use lilo is because I dont understand the configs of bootloaders (dont really understand grub either)05:08
abattoirkent_: rt. click on panel->Add Applet->System Tray05:09
intelikeyBluesKaj see my pm response.   it's still valid.05:09
Scythe128intel, what could lilo boot that bios cant?  If the system can see it, it can be booted as far as I know05:09
santyago!    ! )05:10
kent_abattoir: thanks05:10
intelikeyScythe128 the system can see it.  but bios can't boot it. and thus grub can't05:10
BluesKajintelikey, sorry i don't quite understand what you mean in the pm05:10
abattoir!ru05:10
ubotuPozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. Russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help05:10
intelikeyScythe128 /dev/sda05:10
DaSkreechabattoir: I don't see a system tray there05:10
snpzsantyago, in english please05:10
abattoirkent_: no problem :)05:10
abattoirDaSkreech: ??05:10
abattoirDaSkreech: because your panel already has it ;)05:11
DaSkreechabattoir: I was just looking to make sure that's where it is. can I only have one system tray?05:11
DaSkreechok05:11
DaSkreechThat seems unKDEish :)05:11
abattoirDaSkreech: only one per panel, as far as i can remember05:11
abattoirDaSkreech: you could add another panel ;)05:11
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abattoirand add it to it05:11
DaSkreechAh of kourse. More KDeish :)05:11
abattoirlol05:11
Scythe128how would you boot that without having drivers loaded?  if the system can see it, then grub can boot it05:12
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kent_how do i make the trash show on desktop so i can remove it from the tray?05:12
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ylzgood day, I hope you don't mind helping me05:13
DaSkreechkent_: add a launcher and point it at trash:/05:13
intelikeyBluesKaj does that help ?05:13
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DaSkreechylz: Not so far :)05:13
BluesKajintelikey, sorry i don't quite understand what you mean in the pm05:13
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kent_DaSkreech: can i make multipul panels with diferent stuff in them on dif sides of the desktop?05:14
DaSkreechWejj done05:14
intelikey<Scythe128> how would you boot that without having drivers loaded?  if the system can see it, then grub can boot it <<--- false assumption.   bios indeed sees my scsi disk  and if i partition it then bios can boot a partition on it.  but neither bios nor grub can boot the disk  /dev/sda05:14
DaSkreechkent_: sure05:14
ylzmplayer should put sound output to arts, but no sound will be played. strange thing is, that other players work and arts-control 'shows' the peak of the sound which should be played by mplayer05:15
Scythe128intel look at the man for grub.. you can Identify the boot drive.  Can you do it fron there?05:15
ylzI'm calling mplayer '#mplayer -ao arts blabla.wav'05:15
intelikeyBluesKaj dpkg -l | grep -e 'linux-'   for the list and  sudo apt-get remove <put here the ones you want to remove>05:15
Scythe128and can you use the --device-map=FILE option to boot scsi?05:16
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intelikeyScythe128 grub can't boot it.05:16
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Scythe128ok05:16
intelikeyScythe128 it's not possable for grub. it's just too weak.05:16
Scythe128k05:16
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DaSkreechwhat happens if you just run mplayer?05:17
Scythe128is /dev/sda where your lilo is? or do you have that on an ide drive?05:17
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ylzDaSkreech: it finds artsd running and the same thing happens05:18
Scythe128Im just trying to learn.. gotta figure out how you are doing this :)05:18
DaSkreechHmm05:18
BluesKajwhoa , that list is much larger than the boot page list !05:18
DaSkreechand only mplayer?05:18
ylzDaSkreech: it shows the basic options ;)05:19
intelikeyif you need to know the reason.  grub psyudo mounts the file system then reads in files using bios as the means to mount it.  bios can't mount the disk  only partitions on the disk.  thus grub fails because of bios.   lilo on the other hand reads a block address using bios   bios sees the disk and can read blocks from it.  thus lilo works and grub doesn't.05:19
intelikeyScythe128 ^05:19
ebivenAnyone have any KPilot experience?05:20
Scythe128sounds greek to me, but it looks techie ;)  got ya05:20
BluesKajintelikey, can i remove anything that doesn't have the latest kernel linked to it ?05:20
ylzDaSkreech: without artsd enabled, it finds SDL as functional output device and this one works05:21
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Scythe128blueskaj, I would just comment it out instead of removing it05:21
intelikeyBluesKaj yes     mmm are you using nvidia ?05:21
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DaSkreechYou want to use artsd?05:21
Omnifroggrrrr05:21
ylzDaSkreech: yes05:21
DaSkreechAny reason?05:21
Omnifrogalsaconf didnt detect any PnP or pci cards05:21
ylzDaSkreech: multiple sound output05:22
BluesKajcomment it out , Scythe128 ...how is that done , in kate ?05:22
DaSkreechMixing tables? :)05:22
Scythe128just put a  # infront of the line05:22
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intelikeyBluesKaj you are talking about removing the "extra" kernels right ?05:22
BluesKajno I'm using ATI05:22
BluesKajyup05:22
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intelikeyk yes   and yes05:22
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intelikeyBluesKaj uname -r    and don't remove that on.05:23
intelikeyone05:23
intelikey:)05:23
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intelikeyBluesKaj basicly if it doesn't ask you to enter  "Yes, do as I say!"   then you are ok.   if it does, you better read the warning first.  and be carefull05:26
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muzzleIsn't it possible to draw directly on a window using gtk-sharp like with Windows.Forms ?05:27
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mikearthurcan someone with Java installed USING THE PACKAGE MANAGER type echo $JAVA_HOME in the console for me?05:31
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kubuntunote_hi05:40
kubuntunote_italiani?05:40
DaSkreech!it05:40
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!05:40
DaSkreechGrazie!05:40
kubuntunote_thks05:41
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[Relic] unable to write email to mailbox, seems there is a problem with the new install allowing read write, not sure what to do with it since I think the browser is affected too05:54
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DaSkreechYou can't save anything?05:54
[Relic] won't write mail to the file05:55
[Relic] assuming because I backup up to a DVD then xfered back once I did first run05:55
wilmanhow can i make my screen refresh more then 60 hz05:55
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[Relic] specail is the only thing not set in permissions05:57
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icheyneebiven, I used Kpilot once05:58
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[Relic] DaSkreech, is there a way to mass switch to read right for the settings?05:59
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DaSkreech[Relic] : Of course :)06:00
DaSkreech[Relic] : what do you want to do to the files?06:00
ebivenicheyne: According to the KPilot guys the latest version that went into Debian is broken.  They have me compiling from the svn source.06:01
[Relic] I will recopy everything over and then I will do that for both the browser and then mail06:01
max_salut aa pourait m envoye le lien en francais merci06:01
DaSkreech[Relic] : What are the permissions on the file?06:01
DaSkreech!fr06:01
ubotuAllez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.06:01
BluesKajok, intelikey, the boot menu is now edited to my liking , thanks06:02
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[Relic] most seem to be read only assuming it did an archive thing when it went to cd/dvd06:02
icheyneebiven, oh right well I used it ages ago and it worked for me. Compiling from source is not _that_ bad06:02
DaSkreech[Relic] : Good assumption06:02
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BluesKajonly the latest kernel listed , along with windows06:02
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ebivenicheyne: Yah, I'm not scared of the source.  :)06:02
DaSkreechDoes anyone know where I get the alias for eth0 from?06:03
icheyneebiven, Use the source Luke...06:03
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woufHi everyone, I need help, I hava a fresh installation of Kubuntu Edgy Eft on my laptop, I have just installed Automatix and all stuff to read DVD (win32codecs, libdvdcss, libdvdread... )  and a panel of different players (kaffeine, mplayer, xine, ogle, vlc...) but it doesn't work at all...06:04
DaSkreech!doesnt work06:04
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about doesnt work - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:04
intelikeyDaSkreech /etc/network/*06:04
DaSkreech!doesn't work06:05
ubotuDoesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.06:05
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LjLwouf, so it's far from a fresh installation06:05
LjL!automatix06:05
ubotuautomatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.06:05
[Relic] DaSkreech, I just want to set readwrite for the whole directory then so that when I run the progs I will be ok  :)06:05
DaSkreech[Relic] : chmod -r u+rw ~06:05
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woufoky bot, I know... but if I have installed automatix it's because my first installation of Edgy Eft without it also failed06:06
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[Relic] cannot access "u+rw" no such file or directory06:07
LjLah, like in, if it's broke, break it more?06:07
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[Relic] big R  :)06:08
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woufLjL: ok so because I just use automatix you won't help me ...06:10
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LjLwouf, no, i won't help you because 1) you've still not explained what the actual problem is except for "doesn't work"  2) i have very few audio/video codecs installed myself  3) i'm watching a movie06:11
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DaSkreechwouf: None of us know what the problem is06:11
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ktosczesc06:12
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ktosktos z was  korzysta z kdtv?06:13
BluesKajhmmm, I can't understand why EDGY is so large , I got rid of 30 programs that i'll never use but it didn't reduce one iota ...it's almost twice larger than the windows footprint ... any ideas ?06:13
fdoving!pl | ktos06:13
ubotuktos: Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl06:13
woufLjL: 3 is a good response ;) ... and I will explain the problem, thank you for your attention06:13
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ktosthanks06:13
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woufDaSkreech: Oky, this is my dmesg when I tri to read a commercial DVD movie :06:14
wouf[17224128.340000]  Buffer I/O error on device hdb, logical block 5208206:14
wouf[17224135.332000]  hdb: media error (bad sector): status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error }06:14
wouf[17224135.332000]  hdb: media error (bad sector): error=0x30 { LastFailedSense=0x03 }06:14
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woufKaffeine complain with an error of libdvdcss... but its installed. VLC display the movie with big artefact and green screen... ogle crash06:16
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Omnifrogi guess i'll have to live with the on-board sound for now06:17
Omnifroga soundblaster souldnt be this much trouble06:17
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woufKafeine error message says that my DVD is crypted, in french "Votre DVD semble crypt. Selon les lois de votre pays, vous pouvez ou non utiliser  libdvdcss  afin de lire ce disque. (Media stream scrambled/encrypted)"06:18
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slow-motionhallo06:19
woufand this is the VLC log :06:19
wouflibdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 0.1.9 from http://dvd.sf.net06:19
wouflibdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.9 for DVD access06:19
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wouflibdvdnav: Using dvdnav version 0.1.9 from http://dvd.sf.net06:19
wouflibdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.9 for DVD access06:19
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woufsory for double paste...06:20
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woufVLC finaly cras with : spudec decoder error: overflow in SPU next command sequence06:20
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woufSo now, is anybody have an idea ?06:20
zorglu_too obvious to answer :)06:21
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woufzorglu_: what "obivous" mean ? (I'm french...)06:22
zorglu_obvious with the typo, mean 'evident' :)06:22
zorglu_it was ironic :)06:22
woufok ;)06:22
woufso no idea...06:22
woufis there a good tutorial to have DVD working on Kubuntu Edgy Eft ?06:23
intelikeyob-via  to see   the way or path06:24
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ylzwouf: I have no problems with xine and the libdvdcss from the penguin liberation front06:24
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woufylz : I also have the PLF libdvdcss... but it still doesn't work...06:24
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wilmanwhat are kpse tools?06:25
Admiral_Chicago_!kpse06:26
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about kpse - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:26
woufylz: xine complain with the follwing message (i'll try to translate it in english) :06:26
intelikeyobvious in it's usage and from it's roots means to see something as if it was in the path ahead of you.06:26
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ylzwouf: paste it 1:1, I can handle french06:26
intelikeydictionary of intelikey page 9845.06:26
woufylz: ok06:26
DaSkreech!info kpse06:27
ubotuPackage kpse does not exist in any distro I know06:27
DaSkreech!sound blaster06:27
woufylz: Votre DVD semble crypt. Selon les lois de votre pays, vous pouvez ou non utiliser  libdvdcss  afin de lire ce disque. (Media stream scrambled/encrypted)06:27
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about sound blaster - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:27
DaSkreechOmnifrog: Have you looked in the forums06:27
zorglu_wouf: you should install libdvdcss to read it06:28
Omnifrogya, it's not making a lot of sence. it should work06:28
zorglu_!info libdvdcss06:28
ubotuPackage libdvdcss does not exist in any distro I know06:28
zorglu_!seach css06:28
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about seach css - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi06:28
woufzorglu_: i have already isntalled it06:28
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woufzorglu_: the one from the PLF06:28
zorglu_wouf: ok now try to make vlc find it :)06:28
zorglu_wouf: you dont need to get it from plf i think06:28
woufzorglu_: VLC find IT, but xine not.06:29
zorglu_at least it wasnt the case with dapper06:29
zorglu_wouf: very strange06:29
ylzwouf: seems that there is a mixation of libdvdnav and libdvdread. my xine is only reporting: libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.9 for DVD access06:29
woufzorglu_: yes06:29
woufylz: mine not06:29
ylzwouf: please open xine from a console and tell, what the output to the console is06:29
woufylz: my xine report it  !06:30
woufylz: libdvdread: Using libdvdcss version 1.2.9 for DVD access06:30
woufylz: it's the xine output...06:30
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woufylz: Xine fouds the libdvdcss and then found the 4 VTS of the movie... but then crash complaining the above message06:31
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woufylz: its really strange...06:31
ylzyes, in deed06:33
zorglu_wouf: it does that with every dvd ?06:34
zorglu_i would say it may be an specific issue to this dvd06:34
woufzorglu_: yes I have tested it with 8 commercial DVD06:34
zorglu_and the error message may be bogus06:34
zorglu_ok, and this dvd drive has already worked ?06:35
woufyes ;)06:35
woufwith my dapper :(06:35
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zorglu_sorry no idea06:35
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DaSkreechdid you try a purge and reinstall teh dvdcss?06:36
woufyes06:36
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DaSkreechoh06:36
woufDaSkreech: I will try it again now to check.06:37
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woufDaSkreech: Ok, purged, log of xine aggred : libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable06:39
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woufDaSkreech: I reinstall it now06:39
ylzalsa tries to open /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p but that one doesn't exist. There is only pcmC1D0p06:39
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woufDaSkreech: do I need the dev package of libdvdccss ?06:40
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ylzhm... making a symlink works, now alsa plays sound06:41
woufDaSkreech, ylz : purging failed, I have the same error message after reinstallation...06:41
arriesphi06:41
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DaSkreechylz: :-)06:42
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woufDaSkreech, ylz : Thanks for your help, I will google it again and again... :(06:43
DaSkreechwouf: Checked the forums?06:44
Admiral_Chicagowouf: might also want to check out the forums06:44
DaSkreechI win :)06:44
woufI checked many forums but no good answers...06:44
Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: this round...06:44
ylzwhat the hell is a 'conexant cx8811'?06:45
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josesitoever since i upgraded to edgy i can't hear any mp3 in amarok, noatun or juk, but i can still hear them in xmms06:45
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josesitoi've got all restringed formats' codecs installed, can someone help me with that?06:46
Admiral_Chicagojosesito: do you have libxine-extracodecs installed? ah you do.06:46
DaSkreechjosesito: sudo apt-get install libxine-extracodecs06:46
DaSkreechI think that it has more dependecies in edgy06:46
zerakylz it is for your tv-card i think (u got one ? )06:46
josesitoi have it installed06:47
ylzzerak: thank you, it is06:47
Admiral_Chicagotry sudo dpkg--recofigure libxine-extracodecs06:47
Admiral_Chicagoreconfigure*06:48
josesitoit still says command not found (with reconfigure)06:48
DaSkreechwouf: do you have a /home parition?06:48
woufIt works ! 4 days working on this stupid libdvdcss, migrating from dapper, reintalling edgy...06:49
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DaSkreechjosesito: no --06:49
DaSkreechjust-06:49
josesitooh ok06:49
woufDaSkreech: yes I have it, and it was the problem !06:49
Admiral_Chicagoah my bad06:49
DaSkreechwouf: What was the problem?06:49
woufDaSkreech: I had to delete my .dvdcss folder06:50
DaSkreechwouf: Ah the purge didn't work06:50
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woufDaSkreech: Maybe because my home partition hasn't changed since my dapper06:50
josesitoAdmiral_Chicago, done...but it still doesn't work06:50
Admiral_Chicagopstree in the konsole, is anything using xine?06:51
josesitoamarok uses xine06:52
josesitowait06:52
Admiral_Chicagothat is the only process using it?06:52
josesitono, actually no process is using xine06:52
Lam_!ftp06:52
ubotuFTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP servers: ftpd, proftpd, pure-ftpd, twoftpd, vsftpd06:52
Lam_neat. konqueror is an ftp client?06:52
Tm_TLam_: Sure.06:52
Lam_err. am i able to send stuff to a server using konqueror though?06:53
Tm_TLam_: Sure.06:53
Lam_neat, thanks06:53
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DaSkreechKonqueror is everything but a date matching service06:53
zerakylz having sound problem?06:53
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DaSkreechHad to keep something for KDE406:54
woufDaSkreech, ylz : Thank u again for your help... it was really a stupid bug... I still dont understand what libdvdcss store in this little folder but now it works...06:54
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DaSkreechwouf: Sure no problem :)06:55
DaSkreechGlad to keep you happy06:55
Tm_THmm what's best command to check version of ubuntu system?06:55
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Tm_TCan't remember that one.06:55
Admiral_ChicagoTm_T: just go to about ubuntu06:55
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DaSkreechI Just cat /etc/issue06:56
Tm_TDaSkreech: Thanks, that's what I was loonking for.06:56
Tm_TAdmiral_Chicago: Thanks, I never knew that. ;)06:57
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DaSkreechTill death do you part06:57
DaSkreechOr at least a hotter younger fawn swings by06:57
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wouf:)06:57
DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: Where is about kubuntu?06:58
woufhow many month before new problems (festy fawn) ?06:58
DaSkreech!schedule06:58
ubotuUbuntu uses a strict timetable for releases, which means that sometimes newly released programs miss the timetable. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases for more. Feisty Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeistyReleaseSchedule06:58
woufgreat bot !06:59
Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: i thought there was one in the help menu, but i guess not06:59
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DaSkreechAdmiral_Chicago: That's KDE06:59
DaSkreechYeah I know :)06:59
Admiral_Chicagoi know that now06:59
DaSkreechDrat. That's Half of hte next battle I plan to win!06:59
DaSkreech!eol06:59
ubotueol is End-of-life, the point where security updates stop. Hoary will be EOL in october 2006, Breezy in april 2007 and Dapper in june 201106:59
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Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: in the help menu, there is about Kubuntu07:01
CVirusjune 2011 ?07:02
DaSkreechYes but I don't thik that counts as the fastest way07:02
DaSkreechLTS :)07:02
arriespxao gent07:02
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CViruswhat is that ?07:02
DaSkreech!LTS07:02
ubotuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server.07:02
CVirusah07:02
DaSkreech!botsnack07:02
ubotuYum!07:02
zorglu_!edgy07:03
ubotuUbuntu 6.10 (codenamed Edgy Eft) is the latest version of Ubuntu. To upgrade to Edgy, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EdgyUpgrades - To download Edgy: http://www.ubuntu.com/download07:03
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DaSkreechAh you are kidding me :(07:03
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DaSkreechYou can't make a folder in Konqueror without the mouse?07:04
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Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: i don't like Konqui07:11
Admiral_Chicagoi middle click to close tabs07:11
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DaSkreechha ha yeah07:12
DaSkreechthen I quit using the mouse. Now I can't make a folder without one07:12
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Admiral_Chicagothat should be a critical feature request, it gets into the idea of accesibility07:13
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Lam_damn, konqueror functions nice as an ftp client07:14
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Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: i'd put it on LP and link omgponiezlol to the page07:14
Admiral_Chicagothat's my nick in my room, IRC is going nuts over there07:15
DaSkreechYour room?07:15
Admiral_ChicagoDaSkreech: i'm on  a live CD right now and not at my home compy07:16
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Admiral_Chicagoit's so cool, i come to the physics private room, boot up Kubuntu Live, eat lunch and stay online07:17
Admiral_Chicagobbl07:17
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Tm_T!pastebin07:24
ubotupastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)07:24
n1kt0       ?07:25
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Lynouren1kt0: lots of wovels there.07:26
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DankerHi07:28
DankerHow to minimize X application?07:28
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DaSkreechDanker: All of them?07:30
LynoureDanker: there are many ways, depending on your settings.07:30
DaSkreechWoah that's sad :) I'm downloading from http://www.peteteo.com/commons and the share ratio is nan :)07:30
DankerOne window07:30
LynoureDanker: right-click on the title bar and then choose minimise from the menu07:30
DankerGame window :)07:30
DankerNo07:30
DaSkreechDanker: try Alt+F3 and then ... oh Game07:31
DaSkreechUmm07:31
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LynoureWhich game, by the way?07:31
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DankerEnemy teritory07:33
Dankersorry for english mistakes :(07:33
DaSkreechNo problem07:33
DaSkreechGerman?07:33
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LynoureDanker: you so did not google for the solution, did you? =)07:34
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DaSkreechLynoure: Ha ha Use Standard english for non english speakers at least :007:35
DaSkreech Sarcasm is hard enough to get across on IRC :)07:36
DankerNaaah07:36
DankerThought that on IRC will be faster :D07:36
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DankerI am from lithuania07:36
LynoureDaSkreech: I'm non-native myself :)07:36
DankerI have learned german too, but i am weak at it :)07:36
BluesKajBaltic state!07:37
DaSkreechI was just guessing  :)07:37
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LynoureDanker: try   minimize enemy territory linux  the answer should pretty much jump at you07:37
LynoureDaSkreech: But I have been speaking English at home for 6 years now... :)07:37
BewbieHi all, is there a new nvidia driver atm?07:38
DaSkreechGet out!07:38
DankerYa07:38
DaSkreechThere is one at the nvidia site07:38
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DankerWhat do think about lithuanians in yuor country?07:38
Dankeryour*07:38
DankerDo people think that they ar smuglers?07:39
BluesKajmy country ?07:39
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DankerWhere are you from?07:39
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LynoureDaSkreech: well, I do not speak Dutch and he speaks very little Finnish and near-native English, so we are stuck with that until one of us learns a new language properly :)07:39
LynoureDanker: Why would they think that?07:40
BluesKaj<--- Canada, ...born in finland of swedish heritage07:40
LynoureHmph, have to go, stores close in 20mit here07:40
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BluesKajcool07:41
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DankerBecause from time to time i hear that lithuanians are doing bad things in other countries07:41
Dr_willisHmm. MintLinux :)07:41
DankerYea07:41
ent3rmanhi07:41
Dr_willishttp://linuxmint.com/07:41
DankerFinntroll rocks && rules :)07:41
Dr_willisyet another ubuntu spinoff it seems07:42
BluesKaj<---old guy , emmigrated to canada in 1947 at the age of 4.07:42
Dr_willisLinux Mint is an Ubuntu-based distribution whose goal is to provide a more complete out-of-the-box experience by including browser plugins, media codecs, support for DVD playback, Java and other components. It is compatible with Ubuntu software repositories.07:42
BluesKajnever heard anything negative about lithuanians07:42
vikkeuhm, could someone tell me how i install 32 bit firefox on my amd64 kubuntu?, what libraries i need and such07:42
ent3rmanjest tu jakis polak?07:42
ent3rmanjest tu jakis polak?07:42
ent3rmanjest tu jakis polak?07:42
DankerThen good :)07:42
Lynoure!pl07:42
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu-pl07:42
BluesKaj!pl07:42
DaSkreech!eol > Daskreech07:43
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BluesKajDr_willis, is Linux Mint as up to date as Edgy ?07:44
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DaSkreechBluesKaj: Check it's website07:45
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Dankerhttp://www.truecombatelite.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2975&highlight=minimize07:46
DankerStill nothing good...07:46
DankerHack way...07:46
BluesKajbummer , latest Linux mint uses gnome desktop :(07:46
DaSkreechOf course07:47
DankerAnd because KDE is better we wont use it :D07:47
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DankerOf course there is apt-get :D07:47
wouterhhi all, i have a question: is there a way to make the keyboard layout used by kdm selectable?07:47
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icheynehas anyone used the fish shell? is it any good?07:50
DaSkreech!info fish07:51
ubotufish: a friendly interactive shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.21.12-1 (edgy), package size 631 kB, installed size 2560 kB07:51
DaSkreechAh of course07:51
BluesKajcan a one migrate from edgy to Linux mint , without having to a clean install ?07:51
BluesKajto do07:51
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DaSkreechI doubt it if Mint is not supported which since it ships with banned packages I'm sure it is07:51
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BluesKajahh...banned in the US , i bet07:52
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DaSkreechWell banned somehwere07:53
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DaSkreechLCD is a killer07:54
vikkeuhm, could someone tell me how i install 32 bit firefox on my amd64 kubuntu?, what libraries i need and such07:54
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xwolf-why does kdm keep ignoring numlock even after i have edited /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc to 'NumLock=On'?07:55
DaSkreechwhat device does eth0 really point to?07:55
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BluesKajvikke, are you running 64 or 32bit kubuntu ?08:00
vikkeBluesKaj: 64 bit08:00
wouterhlet me rephrase my question: I have multiple users which use different keyboard layouts. Can I let the user select a keyboard layout at the kdm login screen?08:00
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BluesKajFF should be in the repos08:00
JonJHas anyone successfully synced a Nokia 6131 over bluetooth? I can receive files from it, but I cannot send files, sync contacts, or anything, really. It does not even appear in kdes bluetooth obex client08:01
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vikkeBluesKaj: isnt it 64 bit firefox im installing through that?08:01
TheMoleJonJ: Have you tried pairing the devices?08:02
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JonJTheMole: I'm sorry, what? Pairing the devices?08:03
BluesKajwhy not use 64bit FF ?08:03
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TheMoleFrom the phone, tried to pair the device with the computer. Bluetooth devices usually need pairing before you can sync. I know I have to do that with my Nokia n73.08:04
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TheMoleAlthough it's still flakey under kbluetooth and under Windows for that matter.08:04
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wouterhBluesKaj: my guess: there is no 64-bit flash plugin08:04
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JonJHm, the phone is asking me about a password, I'm assuming it should have appeared on my computer08:06
DankerThere isnt08:07
DankerHow to address my message to someone?08:07
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DankerIn IRC08:08
DankerHere08:08
DankerUsing Konversation08:08
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TheMoleJonJ: the password is usually 123408:09
TheMoleIt should then say "devices paired" or "pair failed"08:09
ent3rmanor 0000000008:09
JonJTheMole: Thanks, I got it working!08:09
murchadhDanker: Start typing their nick and press tab08:09
TheMoleNo problem.08:09
TheMoleI have spent many hours trying to get bluetooth to actually work properly.08:09
DankerTheMole: Hi08:09
DankerNice :)08:10
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fadeyDanker: Hi08:10
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DankerCool08:10
TheMoleDanker: Hi.08:10
Dankerfadey: Hi08:10
DankerIt rocks :)08:10
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Dankerclaydoh: hi08:11
Danker:)08:11
DankerBye08:11
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claydohheh08:11
magical_trevskydoes anyone know if kpresenter can save files as .ppt, and if so, how reliably?08:12
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xwolf-why does kdm keep ignoring numlock even after i have edited /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc to 'NumLock=On'?08:14
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patlkliinvitado, have you restarted kdm? if not, do that ;-)08:15
DaSkreechmagical_trevsky: use impress?08:16
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magical_trevskyDaSkreech, I am, was just wondering if there were any alternatives08:16
|sparr|where does kde get the icons for windows in the pager?08:16
murchadh!kpresenter08:17
ubotukpresenter: a presentation program for the KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.5.2-0ubuntu2 (edgy), package size 1235 kB, installed size 3940 kB08:17
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patlklimagical_trevsky, KPresenter can't save as .ppt ? I thought so...08:19
jg_evening all08:20
magical_trevskypatlkli, ok, thanks :)08:20
argentoI would like to open compressed files with protocols but when I click a zip file Ark opens08:20
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patlklimagical_trevsky, hmm, i looked in now, it can't, sorry08:20
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argentohow can I associate zipped files with the zip:/ protocol in konqueror?08:21
patlklimagical_trevsky, but it could be, that there is a plug-in or something... ;-)08:21
magical_trevskyI wish ms office would support opendocument so I wouldn't have to worry about stuff like this when I want to show a presentation on someone else's machine :(08:21
MeekusI am trying to set up LDAP client here on a machine.  Giving me issues.  I was wondering if someone knew the log file to check to see what the actual errors are?08:22
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MeekusI am trying to authenticate against an LDAP server I should mention08:23
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patlklimagical_trevsky, maybe MS will include OpenDocument support after this Novell + Microsoft story :-)08:24
argentowhat's the default in edgy? Are zipped files opened with ArK or with the zip:/ protocol in konqueror?08:24
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nixboxhow do i install opera browser?08:25
nixboxi have done sudo apt-cache search opera, but i cant find it there, i have looked in add/remove programs as well.08:26
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sparrwWhere does KDE get the icons for windows in the pager?08:26
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DaSkreechFrom the .Desktop File I think08:26
DaSkreechArk08:26
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DaSkreech!opera | nixbox08:26
ubotunixbox: opera is an advanced and free (only as in price) web browser.  Install it via Applications->Add/Remove..., making sure that "Show commercial applications" is checked. For more info on opera please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OperaBrowser08:26
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Tm_Tsparrw: It uses normal app icons IIRC, those are defined in .desktop files AND actual icons are in /usr/share/icons or so.08:27
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murchadhpatlkli: Presentation in Openoffice seems to be what you need!08:27
sparrwTm_T: how does it know which icon goes with which app?  I ask because I have one app that should have an icon but doesnt08:27
patlklimurchadh, i need nothing08:28
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patlklimurchadh, magical_trevsky needs to save as ppt08:28
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patlklimagical_trevsky, right, why don't you make your presentations with OpenOffice.org?08:28
murchadhpatlkli: Sorry, That was for magical_trevsky!08:28
Tm_Tsparrw: Well, as I said, app Whatever provides whatever.desktop file that points whatever.png icon to be used with it.08:29
patlklimurchadh, NO PROBLEM ;-)08:29
murchadhmagical_trevsky: Presentation in Openoffice seems to be what you need!08:29
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magical_trevskymurchadh, yeah, I'm using it :D08:29
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magical_trevskyit's just the example presentations on the koffice website look cool, and I was wondering if I could use it to make ppt files, but looks like I can't!08:30
Tm_Tsparrw: If that is not the case, you can create desktop file yourself, look them from /usr/share/applications/kde/ for example08:30
magical_trevskyI think I may just make an html presentation though08:30
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sparrwTm_T: ok, the app in question is thunderbird.  /usr/share/applications/mozilla-thunderbird.desktop lists the icon as mozilla-thunderbird-menu and i have /usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-thunderbird-menu.[png/xpm/svg] .  thunderbird has an icon on my K menu, but not in my pager08:30
patlklimagical_trevsky, maybe there is a way to use the KOffice (KPresenter) - Templates with OpenOffice.org08:30
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Tm_Tsparrw: Hmm, then hard to tell, maybe it uses xpm or some other format it can't rescale.08:31
proboloneplease , help me i can not install ati xpress 200 in dapper,08:31
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DaSkreech!ati08:31
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto08:31
probolonethere is not any manual in web for ati x20008:31
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probolonethank ubotu08:34
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patlklimagical_trevsky, i have a solution08:35
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magical_trevskypatlkli, :O08:36
patlklia bit difficult, but should work08:36
proboloneubotu , in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto there is not a solution for ati x 200 in dapper08:36
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patlklimagical_trevsky, open one of the templates in KPresenter and save it under a OpenDocument Presentation08:36
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magical_trevskypatlkli, that's a good idea :D thanks!08:37
patlklimagical_trevsky, and then you open this OpenDocument file with OpenOffice.org, so you can use the templates08:37
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CPrgmSwR2wow kubuntu edgy is really nicwe08:37
CPrgmSwR2Its so smooth and mature08:38
patlklimagical_trevsky, maybe you can move the files to OpenOffice' templates and move it to its template directory08:38
patlkliCPrgmSwR2, yes, really... ;-)08:38
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DaSkreechprobolone: ubotu is a robot08:38
magical_trevskypatlkli, yeah, i'll try.. just need to get koffice installed first :p Thanks for all of your help!08:39
DaSkreechThat website doesnt help?08:39
CPrgmSwR2I am just new to linux and love the change08:39
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DaSkreechWelcome08:39
patlklimagical_trevsky, no problem, i was happy to help you ;-)08:39
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proboloneDaSkreech?08:40
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patlkliCPrgmSwR2, it's nicer than SuSE and doesn't take so long to boot...08:41
DaSkreechDid you install the driver as noted on the website?08:41
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teacaddy!bot08:43
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots08:43
probolonei am in #kubuntu-es chanel , a friend have a problem with compac pc, the repositories no funtion on ati driver  can not open DRI08:43
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DaSkreechNo one in the -es channel is helping you?08:43
CPrgmSwR2That is the amazing thing is how fast it boots08:43
CPrgmSwR2the first time took the longest08:43
CPrgmSwR2how well does kubuntu work on an old computer08:44
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DaSkreechWell enough08:44
DaSkreechYou may ned to tune it down08:45
DaSkreechRAM is important08:45
patlkliCPrgmSwR2, i tried it on a really old K6 machine and it worked (Dapper)08:45
probolonein kubuntu chanel spanish can not the solution08:45
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CPrgmSwR2because my friend has an old 866 mhz intel pentium 3 processor08:45
patlkliYes, i put in much RAM (512MB) in that old machine, then it worked08:45
CPrgmSwR2He screwed his windows up by putting to much on it08:45
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CPrgmSwR2thats what its got 512MB of ram08:46
patlkliCPrgmSwR2, oh, that's really fast against a K6, on that machine it should work perfectly08:46
probolonebut, there is not a solution for this problem?08:46
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patlkliprobolone, google maybe?08:47
CPrgmSwR2is there a way to run itunes on linux?08:47
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TheGateKeepercan KDE automatically go to the next virtual desktop when you move the mouse to left or right of the screen?08:47
CPrgmSwR2yeah it should work08:47
smaggardno this is impossible08:47
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patlkliCPrgmSwR2, i don't think iTunes directly, but..08:47
CPrgmSwR2nevermind it doesn't08:47
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CPrgmSwR2well my freind has a bunch of itune songs is why I ask08:48
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fildomorning08:48
CPrgmSwR2so is there a way he can play them08:48
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TheGateKeepersmaggard: not impossible enlightenment & fvwm both do08:49
patlkliCPrgmSwR2, have you "googled" already?08:49
intelikeyhad this error  " server irc.freenode.net: Connection refused "    heh phone was off the hook.....08:50
Lam_anyone else find the calender (when you click the time at the bottom right) to be a little weird? i'm using to having sunday on the left side of monday08:51
CPrgmSwR2yeah I just did08:51
CPrgmSwR2it says I have to use crossover office08:51
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intelikeyLam_ yes.  i don't know who thought they would change the order of the days but, it's plain stupid imo.   you can adjust it back to correct tho08:52
Lam_intelikey: how do i do that?08:52
patlkliCPrgmSwR2, yes, CrossOver Office is a commercial (costs something) program like Wine but for running Word, Excel, IE and  so on08:52
intelikeyLam_ right click on the clock and choose preferances08:52
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red_ola08:54
Lam_intelikey: ah ok. i found it. thanks08:54
intelikeynp08:54
red_el ordenador no me deja pasar de la identificain en kubuntu08:54
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intelikey!es08:54
icheyneprobolone, try this http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Edgy_Installation_Guide08:54
ubotuPara Espaol por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, all obtendrn mas ayuda.08:54
zeeohey i'm looking for a better vnc server for kubuntu the one that comees with seems to be realy slow08:55
zeeoover the network08:55
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markelhasneed help to config a kubuntu to use p2p client, anyone expert in router problems and p2p clients?08:55
zeeoover 1gbit network its slow08:55
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TheGateKeeperzeeo: use freenx server & nxclient08:55
zeeook thx will check it out08:56
markelhasTheGateKeeper:hi , everything ok! can u help me out?08:56
smaggard<<< agrees with GateKeeper08:56
patlklimarkelhas, what p2p -client? (p2p = evil)08:56
intelikeytightvncserver08:56
proboloneicheyne: thank you08:56
smaggardfreenx has REALLY good compression08:57
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smaggardeven dialup users dont complain08:57
icheyneprobolone, de nada08:57
zeeowell i'm over 1 gibit network i don't care about that08:57
zeeothe stock one is just slow08:57
zeeoon cpu etc08:57
iarwainhi, does anyone know how to add a irc-server to Konversation?08:57
zeeoit seems08:57
markelhaspatlkli: p2p client like ktorrent or amule08:57
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probolonejaja , icheyne08:57
zeeoits a fast system and its still feels realy slow08:57
zeeojust find out what ports its using08:58
zeeonetstat08:58
zeeoand open them ports in router08:58
zeeouse nat to route the ip to your system08:58
zeeoruning p2p08:58
proboloneXD, icheyne me has dejao de piedra jejeje08:58
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sparrwTm_T: kvirc works with the pager, and it has usr/share/icons/blah/blah.[png/svgz] 08:58
markelhaspatlkli: i've config my router with the forwd of the ports but awalays slow connection08:58
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zeeocan i get freenx with apt-get08:58
patlklimarkelhas, well, i don't know, sorry08:58
markelhaspatlkli: same router config with windows and p2p client works fine08:58
proboloneicheyne pasate por: #kubuntu-es08:59
markelhaspatlkli: :/08:59
markelhaspatlkli: oki08:59
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patlklimarkelhas, maybe firewall or something like that? :-P08:59
murchadhmagical_trevsky: Use koffice to create presentation, save it as either OASIS, or Openoffice. Then if Powerpoint can't open the OASIS format (xml I think) use Openoffice to open your masterpiece and save it as a Powerpoint File! Clunky, but you'll only be using Openoffice as a file converter - so there's gotta be a better way.08:59
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markelhaspatlkli: ok08:59
zeeonm i found a .deb08:59
dhqfdoving: hey08:59
dhqfdoving: how do i mount my windows partition in linux08:59
Kai-hey, i was banned on my home connection a few weeks back for join/quit/ping timeout spam because my connection went haywire. can someone remove it?08:59
dhq!mount08:59
ubotuPartitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks08:59
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patlkli!bot09:00
ubotuI am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots09:00
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Tm_Tsparrw: Yup, png is good format.09:01
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Tm_Tsparrw: Check from app.desktop file what icon is defined there.09:02
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Lam_how do i get mozilla-mplayer installed without mplayer or it's associated packages? (i self-compiled my own mplayer)09:03
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flixhsomebody who knows how to disable the automounting of removeable media in kde 3.5.5 (edgy) ?09:05
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patlkliLam_, http://downloads.sourceforge.net/mplayerplug-in/mplayerplug-in-3.31.tar.gz?modtime=1156752322&big_mirror=009:07
Search4Lanceralright, here's a problem09:07
Lam_patlkli: thanks09:07
patlkliLam_, that's the source of the mozilla mplayer-plugin09:07
patlkliLam_, no problem09:07
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Search4Lancerall the fun little icons for sound, kopete, amarok, etc next to the clock, they used to stack, one on top of the other.... now they don't, and as such they're taking up about 1/3 of the width of the screen09:08
yetisome program i need wants libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3, is that the same as libstdc++.so.6, so can i just create a symlink?09:09
patlkliSearch4Lancer, maybe "[CTRL]  + [+]  / [-] 09:09
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patlkliyeti, hmm, wait a moment, i give you a command09:10
patlklione second09:10
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sparrwTm_T: like i said before, mozilla-thunderbird-menu09:11
Search4Lancerpatlkli, what you said makes little sense and performs even less09:11
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patlkliSearch4Lancer, then you have changed the KDE settings09:12
Search4Lancerno, I haven't09:12
Tm_Tsparrw: Well, check that.09:12
Search4LancerI upgraded to 6.10 last night and this is how it came out09:12
colleverdewww.msn.com09:12
adz21cyeti:i think you will find thats not the same file09:12
sparrwTm_T: i have /usr/share/app-install/icons/mozilla-thunderbird-menu.png and /usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-thunderbird-menu.png but no /usr/share/icons/*09:12
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colleverdewww.msn.com09:13
yetiadz21c: it's not, i tried... in what package will i find libstdc++-libc?09:13
khirris solaris of java?09:13
adz21cyeti: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libstdc%2B%2B-libc6.2-2.so.3&arch=i386&version=edgy&searchmode=searchfilesanddirs&case=insensitive09:14
adz21cyeti: i assume ur i38609:14
Lynourekhirr: hmm? Both Solaris and Java are of Sun.09:14
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khirrthanks09:15
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Search4Lancer......09:17
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sparrwthis did not fix the problem:  cp /usr/share/pixmaps/mozilla-thunderbird-menu.png /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/09:17
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kaymaybe someone can help me09:19
kay search a site where i can draw09:19
kayonline09:19
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kayand a friend can see it09:19
kayanyone an idea09:19
adz21cyeti: much luck?09:20
yetiadz21c: thanks, worked :))09:20
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adz21cyeti:  good stuff, in future when u can't find a package go to konqueror or something and put in apt:/ that has an online search :-)09:21
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kayhttp://www.imaginationcubed.com/LaunchPage09:21
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sparrwif it helps, the icon that i am missing is the one in the top left corner of the window too09:22
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ubuntuhello09:24
ubuntucan someone help me to sove a problem_09:24
milan Channel modes: topic protection, no messages from outside, no colors allowed, LOL09:25
adz21cask n see who answers :-)09:25
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sparrwCan anyone verify that Mozilla Thunderbird does [not?]  have its icon in the top left corner of its window when installed from its package?09:26
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ubuntui just installed edgz and after reboot a getting error 21 while loading grub09:27
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sparrwfound the problem, already-reported bug.09:30
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wojtas7hello.09:32
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Riddelleveryone welcome easyrider1!09:33
easyrider1hi all!09:33
Tm_TWelcome! :)09:33
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Tm_TMoin, terve, hola etc. :p09:33
easyrider1I was hoping that someone could help me get java installed on the computer and in Firefox.09:34
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Strelban41Hello, Hola, etc. :)09:34
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_KiKo_ola buenas09:34
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_KiKo_tengo un problema09:34
_KiKo_sobre las particiones09:34
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_KiKo_T_T09:34
adz21cubuntu: http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-support/2005-March/026477.html09:34
_KiKo_alguien me puede ayudar?09:35
migolhi people09:35
adz21cubuntu: hope thats useful09:35
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locutus_hallo leute09:35
Tm_T_KiKo_: You should speak english here, thanks.09:35
Maddinhi09:35
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easyrider1gr locutus09:35
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riz_ciao ragazzi09:36
easyrider1Ok who has J Run Environment installed?09:36
riz_c' qualcuno che mi pu dare una mano con ubuntu?09:36
easyrider1and how did you do it?09:36
calabaza_KiKo_, #ubuntu-es09:36
migoleasyrider1: enable yourself multiverse repositories09:37
abattoir_!it09:37
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:37
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easyrider1how is this done?  I just installed Kubuntu last saturday09:37
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abattoir!multiverse09:38
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:38
abattoireasyrider1: ^^^^09:38
abattoir!java09:38
ubotuTo install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository09:38
abattoirthat one too09:38
Tm_Tabattoir: :)09:38
migol!Multiverse09:38
ubotuThe packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu09:38
abattoirhi Tm_T :)09:39
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easyrider1abattoir, this is done where?09:40
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easyrider1Muiltiverse, etc09:40
abattoireasyrider1: click the links, it is self explanatory09:40
easyrider1oh ok09:40
abattoireasyrider1: if you don't understand something there, ask me09:40
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Search4Lancerall the fun little icons for sound, kopete, amarok, etc next to the clock, they used to stack, one on top of the other.... now they don't, and as such they're taking up about 1/3 of the width of the screen09:40
easyrider1cool09:40
abattoir*they are self...09:40
easyrider1ty09:41
easyrider1brb09:41
abattoiryw09:41
abattoirSearch4Lancer: you changed the size of the panel?09:42
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Search4Lancerno, I haven't changed a thing, I ugraded to 6.10 last night and that's it09:42
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faderhvalhiya people :)09:42
flixhanybody here who knows how to get rid of the kde automount of removable devices?09:43
Search4Lancerchanging the size from normal to large makes it do what I want, but also makes everything else disgustingly large09:43
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faderhvali downloaded a driver for my gfx card from ATI it comes in rpm package how do i install it?09:43
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abattoirSearch4Lancer: ok, try 'killall kicker' , 'rm ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc' followed by 'kicker' in a terminal09:43
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abattoirfaderhval: does that page not have a .deb package?09:44
Search4Lancerabattoir: I got it by changing the size to custom and fiddling with it09:44
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faderhvaldoesnt seem that way no :(09:44
abattoirflixh: iirc, it depends on what you chose the first time when the KDE media daemon popup comes up.09:44
abattoirSearch4Lancer: oh ok09:44
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abattoirfaderhval: hmm, i guess you can use alien to convert the rpm to deb, but be warned, it might cause problems09:45
abattoir!alien09:45
uboturpm is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu does not use RPM, but !APT, and RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous).09:45
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SimiGodBeOswow you able to sill install rpm's09:45
abattoirSimiGodBeOs: yes, but not *all* RPMs, many will still fail09:46
SimiGodBeOswith 3 party app09:46
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ne78How does the Volume-up/down keys are handled in kubuntu edgy eft ? What is the name of the program used ?09:46
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faderhvalabattoir: how do i install drivers for my gfx card then i'm going nuts in 1024*76809:47
abattoir!ati09:47
ubotuTo install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto09:47
SimiGodBeOsi can't seem to update my liunx , i can't go online, i try to use apt manger. it sill wants to download files from the net09:47
abattoirfaderhval: looked at that?09:47
|lostbyte|ne78, kmix09:47
SimiGodBeOshow to work around this?09:48
faderhvalno but i will ^^09:48
|lostbyte|!apt-cdrom09:48
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about apt-cdrom - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi09:48
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ne78|lostbyte|: so kmix is always in the tray and ctach the Volume-up/down ?09:48
SimiGodBeOsin console,09:48
SimiGodBeOsusdo ! apt-cdrom09:49
sparrwusdo?09:49
|lostbyte|ne78, open up kmix , settings > global shortcuts..09:49
faderhvalacording to that i have the right driver installed but why the heck cant i get a res higher then 1024*769 then ?09:49
ne78|lostbyte|: thanks09:49
|lostbyte|ne78, np ;)09:50
SimiGodBeOssorry wrong commda09:50
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SimiGodBeOsthank, loStB09:52
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esbenWhere do iptables firewall rules go in (K)ubuntu?09:52
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migolfaderhval: and monitor settings are fine?09:53
ubuntui'm getting error 21 while grub is loading09:53
ubuntuafter installing edgy09:53
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ubuntusomeone knows the problem?09:53
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faderhvalmigol theres is nothing "wrong" as such i would just wish i had a higher res..09:54
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faderhval*sob*09:55
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esbenubuntu: While grub is loading... as in before the menu displays?09:55
ubuntuyes before09:56
faderhvalif i were to choose a res that is not "testet" or supportet does Kubuntu have "failsafe" like say yes within 10 secs or something like that?09:56
esbenubuntu: Tried simply reinstalling grub?09:57
SimiGodBeOscan you use vmware to update ubuntu09:57
ubuntulike grub-install ?09:57
esbenubuntu: If you like. Or apt-get install --reinstall grub09:57
ubuntuyes i tried to09:57
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ubuntubut it the same error after that09:58
sparrw[how]  can i make kfmclient launch firefox for OpenURL instead of konqueror?09:58
khirrwich one is the stable version....6.06 or 6.10??09:58
khirrwhat is better to use?09:58
[cf] nightrid3rubuntu: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/grub/+bug/897809:58
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thunder_stormhello everywhere09:58
sparrw6.06 is stabler and has more long term support.  6.10 has newer software.09:58
esbensparrw: Move firefox up in the mimetypes09:58
UnKnownManhi09:58
heinkel_111khirr: both are stable09:58
sparrwesben: where?09:58
heinkel_1116.06 has less bugs atm09:58
thunder_stormhave someone problems with apt-index-watch ?09:58
icheyneis there a more user-friendly GUI for the gimp? I know there is one for Windows, but is there one for Linux?09:58
thunder_stormapt-index-watch use 35-50% CPU-Load on my Vaio-Laptop with 2,8 GHz, every 2-5 seconds.09:59
khirri think, so i'll use 6.06 ...i think..09:59
[cf] nightrid3rkhirr: both are stable, 6.06 gives ,long time support09:59
khirruhmm09:59
khirra litle errors only?09:59
sparrwicheyne: google "gimpshop"09:59
icheynesparrw, thanks mate I knew it was out there :)09:59
esbensparrw: Actually there is the default application in the system settings... tried changing that? It's new to me, but seems to do what you want09:59
sparrwesben: havent, thanks.10:00
thunder_stormthis problem i have: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/libapt-front/+bug/6453110:00
heinkel_111khirr: i have both 6.06 and 6.10 on two machines10:00
esbenNoone knows where firewall rules go?10:00
UnKnownManHow integrate python shell in KATE. Alike SCITE editor ??10:00
khirrare the same to u?10:00
heinkel_111khirr: i barely notice the difference in everyday use10:00
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khirrfor u what is better?10:00
icheynekhirr, I can see hardly any difference10:01
icheynekhirr, so I would go for Edgy10:02
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khirrtell me something about diference betwen them...10:02
khirruhmm10:02
khirrok...thanks10:02
heinkel_111i think edgy 6.10 has an edge, but dapper 6.06 is more easy going10:02
SimiGodBeOs:)10:02
heinkel_111i get occasional crashes in edgy that was not the case in 6.06 anymore10:02
arriespola10:02
heinkel_111they are related to amraoK somehoiw10:02
khirri cant install Mercury MSN...10:02
thunder_stormis it possible and secure to deactivate apt-index-watch?10:03
heinkel_111khirr: what dioyou want that for? cant you use kopete?10:03
heinkel_111khirr: what do you want that for? cant you use kopete?10:03
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khirrbut, in kopete i cant see my buddy for email10:03
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heinkel_111sry for typing errors10:03
sparrwheinkel_111: sure, but edgy has dash!  :)  i know dapper has dash too, but its not default10:04
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heinkel_111ehw :blush: what is dash?10:04
heinkel_111sparrw ^10:05
andreposeIf I am setting up a DHCP server with 3 network cards Do I have to set up the network cards connected to my network up with static ip address or can they still be dhcp?10:05
DaSkreech!dash10:06
ubotu/bin/sh links to the DASH shell in Ubuntu Edgy (6.10). Since DASH is not 100% compatible with the BASH shell, some scripts might break. You can make scripts execute using BASH by changing the first line of the script to "#!/bin/bash"10:06
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grafterr, okay, i just upgraded to edgy: why is my kwin going nuts when i switch focus between windows?10:06
ChousukeWhy did edgy switch to dash anyway? :/10:07
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esbenIs there no standard place to stuff iptables rules? or is noone using ubuntu for firewalls? :o)10:08
graftaccording to the description, because dash is much smaller, and space is at a premium on the install disk10:08
DaSkreechChousuke: It's faster10:08
Chousukesubstantially? :P10:08
DaSkreechgraft: Which of course makes no sense :)10:08
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DaSkreechsince you are adding a new application to replace  bash which you ship with anyway10:09
arriespxaop :/10:09
graftesben: just make your own init script, i think10:09
esbengraft: ok10:10
LjL!boot10:10
ubotuBoot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions  -  To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d  -  To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local  -  See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy  -  Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto10:10
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graftso, no one else has a problem with kwin melting?10:11
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flixhnobody can tell me how to get rid off automount in kde? this is driving me nuts...10:12
DaSkreechgraft: to?10:14
DaSkreechflixh: What automount?10:14
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icheyneevery time I run a GUI program from the command line, I get this garbage iain@elgrande ~> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16910:15
icheyne  Major opcode:  14710:15
icheyne  Minor opcode:  310:15
icheyne  Resource id:  0x010:15
icheyneFailed to open device10:15
icheyneX Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 16910:15
icheyne  Major opcode:  14710:15
icheyne  Minor opcode:  310:15
icheyne  Resource id:  0x010:15
icheyneFailed to open device10:15
icheynehow do I get rid of it?10:15
icheynesorry I'll use a pastebin next time - forgot :-S10:16
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graftDaSkreech: um, whenever i move focus to a new window, the focus flies back and forth wildly between windows10:16
flixhdaskreech: when you plug in a usb stick, or put a cd in your drive10:16
DaSkreechgraft: ah ok. Umm try reinstall?10:17
sampo-Are there anybody familiar with Kaffeine? My kaffeine player stop working and I do not know, how I can make it works. I try to remove and reinstall, does not help.10:17
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icheynesampo-, did kaffeine ever work?10:17
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sampo-Yes, sunday I watch tv about klo 21.00, and 23.30 start NYPD Blue, that Nypd Blue kaffeine does not show10:18
graftDaSkreech: reinstall what?10:18
DaSkreechkwin10:18
flixhDaSkreech: the device is mounted automagically, I already removed ivman and if you tell kde to 'Do Nothing' in the pop up window it does not start a programm any more but it still mounts the device...10:18
icheynesampo-, did you use the -purge option when you uninstalled kaffeine?10:19
icheynesampo-, have you tried using VLC Instead?10:19
sampo-No, should I?10:19
icheyneto delete it completely yes10:19
DaSkreechflixh: I think that's hal's doing10:19
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icheynevlc is good10:19
icheyneat least as good as Kaffeine10:19
sampo-Can with vlc record program?10:20
icheyneI do not know10:20
flixhDaSkreech: I assumed that as well, but setting the <storage_automount_enabled_hint> to false in /etc/hal/hald.conf does not solve the problem10:20
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icheyneI know you can stream video from VLC - it does a lot10:20
graftargh. no ssl in firefox without this personal security manager?10:20
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graftwhich... i can't install because i can't browse ssl sites10:21
sampo-Yes, i can now watch tv with Xine, but Xine cannot record, to record now I need kaffeine. But if vlc works and can record, I do not need kaffeine10:21
flixhDaSkreech: And on top of that you can see small window in kde popping up shortly with 'Mounting [device]  ...', so I guess that's some kde daemon10:21
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icheynesampo-, sorry but you will have to check the vlc site10:21
icheyne!vlc10:21
ubotuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Banshee, Beep Media Player, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, XMMS (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine  -  See also !codecs10:21
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DaSkreech!away10:22
ubotuPlease don't use public away messages or change your nick to 'someone|away'.  We know you're away when you don't respond to messages. Also see !guidelines10:22
andreposeack i messed something up...10:23
andreposeDo i have to change /etc/networking/interfaces on an ubuntu router or can I leave it dhcp?10:23
DaSkreechflixh: Why don't you want USB sticks to automount?10:24
sampo-btw, when I try to start kaffeine, there are one zombie process, witch I'm not able to stop even when I'm root10:26
unix_infidelDaSkreech: some people prefer not to automount because they could accidentally have a process running that uses the drive and remove without umounting10:26
BluesKajjust leave it dhcp, andrepose10:26
DaSkreechunix_infidel: you mean a process that grabs the drive as soon as it auto moutns?10:26
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flixhDaSkreech: I often connect (and mainly CDs) in and let them there, mounting them later10:27
unix_infidelDaSkreech: its rare, but yes, more often though, its leaving a drive in there, using it, and forgetting to umount the next day....10:27
unix_infidelits more a matter of habit here. i automount cd's though.10:27
Omnifrogisn't glxgears supposed to display some kind of, you know...numbers?10:28
unix_infidelgo figure.10:28
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flixhDaSkreech: and more important: I sometimes mount a stick on a machine I log onto with ssh while somebody else is using the X-Server. Automount mounts the stick with his uid10:28
andreposewhat's the name of that fps game for linux?  I think it's based on army stuff?10:28
unix_infidelandrepose: america's army?10:28
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DaSkreechflixh: check for the kded module10:28
DaSkreechbrb10:28
unix_infidelor enemy territory.10:29
Omnifrogedgy has a great many issues on this box10:29
andreposeokay.  I remember coming across it once a year ago or so, it was in development then. I am not sure if they are releasing it yet.10:29
flixhDSkreech: kded is running, but how to configure it?10:30
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AyabaraI need the snd_intel8x0 driver to be mounted with "sudo modprobe snd_intel8x0 ac97_quirk=hp_only". how can I make this happen at boot?10:32
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flixhDaSkreech: (sorry, mistyped the nick) kded is running, but how to configure it?10:32
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unix_infidelAyabara: you an issue the specific command in rc.local10:33
DaSkreechAnd that's where Google has a better Ph.d than I do :)10:33
unix_infidelOR you can put it in the proper modules file.10:33
xwolf-what's the problem with the x-window-system-core package?10:33
unix_infidelDaSkreech: ph.d in?10:33
DaSkreechAnswering correctly without half assing and screwing up the computer10:33
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xwolf-!x-window-system-core10:34
ubotux-window-system-core: transitional package for Debian etch. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:7.1.1ubuntu6 (edgy), package size 16 kB, installed size 44 kB10:34
graftHmm, apparently the 'polyester' window deco doesn't work with kde 3.5.510:34
Ace2016anyone's mplayer always giving an error about libmp3?10:35
graftnope10:35
graftwhat's the error?10:35
Ace2016i post a screenshot10:35
Ayabaraunix_infidel, ok. I think someone gave me a one-liner that made the change permanent once, but I lost it...10:36
andreposeanyone know a channel where they could help me setup an ubnutu server as a router?10:37
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graftum10:38
jhutchins_wkandrepose: It's not ubuntu specific, but http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ is a great guide.10:38
grafttry #ubuntu-server10:39
andreposeokay sounds good10:39
jhutchins_wkAyabara: You should be able to do that in the module configuration, modprobe.conf or whatever we use.10:39
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unix_infidelAyabara: if you need to pass options while you modprobe then you should probably use rc.local10:39
unix_infideli'm not sure if you can in modules.10:40
jhutchins_wkunix_infidel: Yeah, you can.10:40
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unix_infidelAyabara: a quick google results that you can add that option to /etc/modprobe.d/local-laptop10:41
unix_infideleither way looks fine to me, there is no one proper way to do it.10:41
Ayabaraunix_infidel, that file doesn't exist here. do I just make it?10:41
Ace2016I keep getting this error every time mplayer starts http://img90.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mplayererrorid6.png10:42
unix_infidelAyabara: using the other two ways seems like the safer more direct method to me.10:42
jhutchins_wkAyabara: It might be better to have a look at /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.10:42
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fhola a todos10:42
jhutchins_wkAyabara: The sound driver is probably already defined there, just need to add options.10:42
ffdxsdff10:42
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Ace2016i keep getting that error but it works perfectly10:43
Ayabarajhutchins_wk, unix_infidel, I'll look into it. thanks for helping10:43
SimiGodBeOsmexcan,, i love  girls10:44
flixhDaSkreech: thanks for the help, unfortunately google has nothing about configuration of kded10:44
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DaSkreechflixh: ask in #kde then I should hope SOMEONE in there should know10:44
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pchavezHas anyone here had a chance to play with the pdftohtml tool?  It and cupsys keep breaking each other.10:45
flixhDaSkreech: thanks, I'll try unfortunately there was no reaction there when ask for the automount problem...10:45
DaSkreechMaybe kded might strike a chord10:46
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michihi @all, i want to add the efnet server on my irc client. how does this work?10:50
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xwolf-what's your irc client?10:50
SimiGodBeOsdo most new nic for auto cent for crossover calbe10:50
Nanaki_YamabushiHow can I do software update over terminal?10:50
SimiGodBeOswith out need a crossover calbes10:50
xwolf-Nanaki_Yamabushi apt-get upgrade?10:51
michikubuntus konversation10:52
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michii know i have to say new server, but i dont know the waht to give in10:52
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pchavezCould the gs package and the gs-esp package be causing conflicts?10:53
xwolf-michi you know WHERE to add, don't you?10:53
xwolf-you just don't know efnet's server?10:53
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Nanaki_YamabushiHow can I change start up theme (boot) and the login in splash screen theme in gnome, or what is the name of the progam?10:54
cryptonichello, i installed ubuntu edgy a while back and would like to start learning how to code c for linux and was wondering if someone could help me install the second snapshot of kde4 on ubuntu10:54
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xwolf-Nanaki_Yamabushi the login program is GDM.. gnome desktop manager10:54
xwolf-the splash in boot screen is probably usplash10:55
pchavezI take it no one has played around with cupsys or pdftohtml.10:55
Nanaki_YamabushiBut how can I change the theme under gnome or how do I do that. I changed it once but I can't find how10:55
xwolf-Nanaki_Yamabushi i'd ask google for that. plus, i'd go to #ubuntu since here is kubuntu's help channel.10:56
xwolf-and i've never used gnome, sorry.10:56
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xwolf-Nanaki_Yamabushi kde-look.org must have a gnome counterpart. there should be something there. perhaps gnome-look.org? :)10:57
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pchavezActually, is this thing on?  Never used this client before.  Can anyone hear me at all?  :)10:57
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SimiGodBeOsi love you too10:58
cryptoniccan anyone help me install kde4?10:58
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xwolf-cryptonic i never got the "kde snapshot" and "install" part.11:01
cryptonicwell can you tell me how to install kde 3?11:01
xwolf-what's that? like a demo version? :P11:01
cryptonicalpha version or below at this stage id say11:01
apokryphospre-alpha development snapshot11:02
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cryptoniceh, close enough11:02
xwolf-pre-alpha, that's like wireframe only11:02
apokryphosi.e. only for developers to use the kdelibs/base, really, for porting their apps to kde411:02
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cryptonicwell i want to work on some stuff for linux, primarily for kde 4 so thats why i wan to install it11:03
cryptonicit would be handy to have it alog side kde 3 or something11:03
yetixwolf-: no, pre-alpha means "microsoft would ship it like it is now" ;)11:03
DaSkreechcryptonic: go to Kubuntu.org11:03
cryptoniclol11:03
xwolf-hehe, probably true.11:03
cryptonicwhat vista,, cough cough :)11:04
xwolf-oh. by the way, you guys seen the vista box thingie?11:04
graftyo, why don't they ever put new amarok updates actuallyin the repos?11:04
graftoh wait.. released after edgy went live... erm never mind11:05
xwolf-it's quite pretty actually11:05
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pchavezDoes it have smooth lines to make it run faster, wolf?  :)11:06
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xwolf-well, the box where the cd (or is it a dvd?) is pretty.11:07
wilmanhow can i change my display refresh rate?11:07
wilmanit is now 6011:07
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graftwhy do you want to change it?11:07
xwolf-oh, i also read somewhere it will use usb flash drives to increase memory11:08
xwolf-what the hell? you pull it off and it bluescreens?11:08
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SaparokHello.  I am having problems installing 6.10 kubuntu on a Dell Precision 650 Workstation.  Either text more or graphical install, it reboots shortly after starting up every time.  Have an Nvidia 7800GS video adapter.  Ran previous builds fine, but I recently added this video card, and haven't had luck since.11:08
graftflash drives to increase memory?11:08
firegirlshould i switch to xubuntu?11:08
xwolf-think of sticking a pen drive to use as extra memory11:09
xwolf-virtual memory, that is. since it is indeed faster than hard drive11:09
pchavezSo you mount it and make a ram disk out of it?11:09
icheynefiregirl, xubuntu is pretty good11:10
Saparoksince when is a flash drive faster than a hard drive?  Must be a very old hard drive.11:10
xwolf-vista does11:10
xwolf-let me find the article.11:10
Saparoktry running a disk speed test on your hard drive and your usb key for yourself, and stop believing such silliness.11:10
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SaparokI am having problems installing 6.10 kubuntu on a Dell Precision 650 Workstation.  Either text more or graphical install, it reboots shortly after starting up every time.  Have an Nvidia 7800GS video adapter.  Ran previous builds fine, but I recently added this video card, and haven't had luck since.11:11
xwolf-Saparok i won't question that since i haven't enough knowledge. but i thought writing through usb was a lot faster than writing to ide hdd?11:11
pchavezHow fast is USB 2.0, anyway?  100mbps?11:11
Saparokno.11:11
Saparokcompact flash I/O latency is very high.11:12
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Saparokbus speed != device speed11:12
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Saparokjust because a device operates on a USB 2.0 bus does not mean it can keep up with the full potential bandwidth.  Very few devices do, actually.11:12
xwolf-http://www.vnunet.com/vnunet/news/2142265/usb-memory-keys-speed-windows11:13
SaparokAnd SATA Is orders of magnitude faster than USB 2.0.  USB 2.0 protocol overhead is fairly high also, so even FW400 will often outperform it.11:13
Saparoknvm FW800.11:13
pchavezActually this test says that FW400 outperforms USB2.0 as well: http://www.cwol.com/firewire/firewire-vs-usb.htm11:14
SaparokIt does, as I said.11:14
xwolf-what's fw400?11:14
pchavezBut why argue?  Its Microsoft.  If they say USB is good for extra memory people will buy it.11:14
SaparokFirewire 400.11:14
xwolf-oh, right.11:15
SaparokFirewire 800 is even faster, and SATA beats them all.11:15
xwolf-pchavez i think that's a fcked up idea.11:15
Saparokcompact flash is VERY slow to write to, and relatively slow to read from.  No way that's better than using local hard disk for swap.11:15
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pchavezIts going to be great.  Super fast 64 bit dual whatever core monsters sitting idle all day long while they pull stuff from a pen drive :)11:15
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pchavezNow thats good design.11:15
Saparokit's BS marketing.  Let me guess, Microsoft will soon be selling a "Superfetch USB Key" for $89.95, and the fools will all be buying one.11:15
xwolf-hehe.11:16
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yetimay they will cooperate with apple: iFetch USB Key, $139.95 but all shiny and stuff ;)11:16
xwolf-brb.11:17
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SaparokWith a free set of earbuds, that let you hear music dynamically generated from the I/O access randomness.  LOL11:17
pchavezWouldn't just doubling the page file size work better?11:17
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SaparokYou only need to do that if you actually run out of swap.11:17
SaparokWindows dynamically adjusts (and fragments) your swap file by default.11:18
pchavezI think it would be faster than adding a pen drive, thats for sure!11:18
yetii'm still SO in love with those windows "free your ram" utilities that just drop pagecache or even better, move it to swap11:18
Saparokreal answer is to turn off swap file, reboot, defrag, turn on swap file with fixed and equal lower/upper bound sizes and reboot again.11:18
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SlynderdaleHmm, anyone have this problem, trying to copy text in Konqueror and not have it save to your clipboard?11:18
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SaparokSlynderdale: I can't even install 6.10 on my system, so I have no idea.11:19
pchavezSlynderdale: frequently.  Just hit ctrl+c a few more times. :)11:19
Omnifroggrrrr11:19
Omnifrogkdesu doesnt work either11:20
SaparokI've tried every install option I can think of, reboots right after startup every time.11:20
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Omnifrogmaybe time to dump edgy11:20
Omnifrogit doesnt just work11:20
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theodorblupp11:22
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graftyeah, wtf happened to kdesu?11:23
graftthe package is gone11:23
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graftah in kdebase-bin11:24
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Omnifrogi still have no idea wtf is up with a root file tree in /mnt/data11:25
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Omnifrogand why synaptic install shit there while the shell keeps looking in the normal / tree11:27
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OmnifrogGUHhh!11:27
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Mystery_Markallo11:38
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Mystery_MarkI installed kubuntu with the alternative CD on a Pentium 3 500Mhz, with 192 Ram, and it was actually under a larger load than the previous release. Did I miss a step?11:40
pchavezDo you have more stuff running?11:41
Mystery_MarkNo, it was a fresh install11:41
Mystery_Markusing firefox and gaim11:41
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faderhvalIs XFree86 included in Kubunutu???11:46
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resmo_hi11:47
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resmo_is there a usb automount problem in kubuntu? /var/log/messages sees the usb-key but there is no (?) /dev/sda ?11:48
resmo_btw efty11:49
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trappistresmo_: there's an open bug on it11:51
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resmo_trappist: ok, i c, thx11:52
trappistresmo_: https://launchpad.net/bugs/6566211:52
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resmo_trappist: hmm seems to be closed (i already updated)11:55
resmo_but still get no usb drive11:56
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carleighhello11:58
carleighcan somebody help me setup beryl?11:58
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smaggard<<< is installing vista :D11:58
Hawkwind!beryl | carleigh11:58
ubotucarleigh: Beryl is a window manager that takes advantage of an OpenGL accelerated X environment. See http://forum.beryl-project.org/ - Help in #ubuntu-xgl11:58
Admiral_Chicagocarleigh: you might want to try #beryl too11:58
smaggardcarleigh> hello beryl is easy to install11:58
smaggardwhat distro ?11:58
Admiral_Chicagosmaggard: good luck11:58
carleighKubuntu 6.1011:58
smaggardah11:58
smaggardhold on ill give you a link11:58
Hawkwindcarleigh: Read the info above11:58
carleighi have it installed11:58
Admiral_Chicagocarleigh: listen to Hawkwind11:59
carleighbut when i open the beryl manager11:59
carleighthe taskbar on my screen goes away and nothing happens11:59
smaggardhmmm11:59
Hawkwindcarleigh: Best to join #Beryl and/or #Ubuntu-XGL for help with that11:59
smaggardstrange11:59
carleighoh Smaggard11:59
carleighWindows Vista isn't great11:59
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carleighi have already tried it11:59
smaggardwindows vista is AWESOME!!!!!!!!12:00
smaggardlol jk12:00
carleighlol ya12:00
carleighid hope so12:00
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carleighok thanks guys12:00
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constantine-xviis there anything on kubuntu that can batch-convert .oggs to .wavs?12:01
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resmo_constantine-xvi: maybe mencoder12:03
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faderhvalsigh....how do i get 3D Accelaration to work on Kubunutu (Radeon 9600 PRO)12:03
fdoving!ati | faderhval12:04
Saparokfaderhval: I can't even get Kubuntu 6.10 to install on an Nvidia 7800 GS, so good luck.12:04
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SaparokI'm thinking about trying a regular ubuntu install, then adding KDE later.12:04
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fdoving!ati | faderhval12:04
fdovinglooks like ubotu is slow today. or i'm lagged.12:05
fdovingnite.12:05
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vyomancan anybody recommend a screen recording tool, such as wink for KDE?12:05
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ubotufaderhval: To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:06
Hawkwindvyoman: screenkast or wink12:06
Hawkwindvyoman: I have screenkast debs on http://SeerOfSouls.com/ in the Ubuntu section12:06
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kitsaroshello there  !12:07
faderhvalubotu: thx12:07
ubotuSorry, I don't know anything about thx - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi12:07
vyomanHawkwind - fantastic I give it a try12:07
jhutchinsvyoman: There's an internal kde screenshot program...12:07
jhutchinsvyoman: ... ksnapshot12:08
vyomanyes I was thinking of viewlets - to produce a movie instructing users to login12:08
vyoman:)12:09
kitsarosi have an idiot question to ask.. i just put correctly the nvidia drivers on my kubuntu but every time that i restart my pc i have in order to log in in kde to press alt-ctrl-f7 is there any option that i can return on the default setting? thx!12:09
kitsaros:D12:09
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kitsarosnoone knows? :S12:10
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