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[01:55] im going to setup a fesity pbuilder after dinner, and mess around because im whacked out of my mind === nixternal heads to dinner (alone) [02:00] nixternal: wait until I upload qt/arts/kdelibs/kdebase before uploading anything [02:00] roger that [02:00] I'm not sure if merge o matic is running yet? [02:00] it looks like it is [02:00] i seen a bunch of ubuntu installer ones here just a little while ago [02:01] http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html [02:01] search for your own name on those pages for starters [02:01] rockin [02:02] ok, im not that cool...not on the list ;) === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.48.76.170] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hobbsee [n=Hobbsee@ubuntu/member/hobbsee] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jack_wyt [n=jack@61.48.76.170] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:18] nixternal, if you want something to do you can work on my kvirc merge ( universe page ) [02:18] i have a few others keeping me busy atm [02:18] heh [02:18] good luck with that === Hobbsee looked at kvirc last cycle. icky thing [02:18] heh it should actualy be pretty streight forward [02:18] but takes forever to compile and test [02:18] lol [02:19] Riddell, 3.5.6 ? or just updates [02:21] moin Hobbsee, imbrandon! [02:21] heya [02:23] imbrandon: given tat 3.5.6 hasn't even been scheduled yet... [02:24] ahh very true, i just wasent sure "how long" you were talking about a wait [02:24] :) [02:24] hey Jucato === Hobbsee declares all maths as EVIL!!!!!!! === Hobbsee attacks her upcoming maths exam with her Long Pointy Stick of DOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (tm) [02:25] and i read my timetable wrong - the last two exams are two days earlier than i thought. ouch [02:28] ouch [02:28] double ouch (2 days) [02:28] as long as 2 days isnt 2 day ago your golden :) [02:29] imbrandon: last today [02:29] Riddell, cool === imbrandon considers upgrading my desktop to feisty === \sh_away [n=nnsherma@server3.servereyes.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [02:38] imbrandon: yeah, well...ouch === freeflying [i=flyingfr@ubuntu/member/freeflying] has joined #kubuntu-devel === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #kubuntu-devel [03:04] Tonio_, ping === LeeJunFan [n=junfan@adsl-69-210-207-5.dsl.klmzmi.ameritech.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian2 [n=bdefrees@c-71-224-172-103.hsd1.pa.comcast.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === rideout [n=rideout@71-215-88-189.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:24] imbrandon: were you serious about kvirc, or were you muckin' with me? [05:24] kvirc is some serious stuff, to bad it is fooogly [05:25] nixternal, no i was serouis if you want to do it [05:25] k, no hurry? as like i can play a little tomorrow? 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(tm) [08:23] shouldn't the (tm) be immediately after DOOM? :P [08:23] could be [08:23] but the !!!'s are part of the trademark [08:24] lol === Jucato counts the number of '!' === Jucato gives up and looks somewhere else === Mez gets out the "Even Longer Pointy Stick of Dooom!" === Hobbsee makes a note to use a different number of !'s next time [08:26] hah === Hobbsee breaks the puny "Even Longer Pointy Stick of Dooom!" , bending it into a pathetic circle === Hobbsee watches as it scatters into a million pieces === Lure [n=lure@ubuntu/member/lure] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:27] hey Lure === Mez just missed his chair as he sat down [08:28] hi Hobbsee [08:28] ouch... === Mez throws mayonaise packets at Hobbsee [08:29] Mez: ouch. that was silly === Jucato runs away from Hobbsee's new found powers === Hobbsee drops large amounts of tomato sauce on Mez [08:29] :P [08:29] lol === Mez collects it and starts making pizz [08:30] a [08:31] the 'a' fell off... === Jucato sweeps it away [08:31] Mez: bring it here, when it's cooked. and dont stick poison in it! === Hobbsee mmm....pizza [08:32] Mez: ever had pizza with mayonaise on it? [08:32] or yoghurt? [08:32] eww... [08:32] Hobbsee, I've had pizza with pretty much anything on it [08:32] heh [08:32] I make my own pizzas [08:32] pizza with strawberries? [08:32] oh yes, yoghurt was the one that i had once. it was certainly....interesting [08:32] chocolate pizza? [08:32] Mez: same here. tasty :) [08:32] Jucato: ooh!!!! dont be evil like that! [08:33] lol [08:33] Jucato: good thing that seele doesnt seem to be watching [08:34] she's probably asleep. as most of the US citizens are [08:35] mm...true that. depends where they are though === Jucato is really getting tired of the forums... [08:37] Jucato, lol... why? === Mez is getting really tired of people doing things like http://www.getdeb.net/ [08:37] "Ubuntu... purposely crippling KDE?" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299933&goto=newpost [08:37] I mean - BACKPORTS [08:37] heheh [08:38] sheesh, they even copied the official web page style? [08:38] he's usually got more sense, too [08:39] yeah, he was one of the proponents of the "Forum Ambassadors" thing [08:39] s/was/is [08:39] which makes it even more frustrating/annoying to see this from him [08:40] indeed === Hobbsee wonders if anything will actually come of that [08:40] that being said, a lot of system settings still sucks, and needs work [08:41] yeah... which is why I made a modified system-settings.menu for myself :P [08:41] (like, stick all the extra modules in advanced, if you dont want to put them in general. but dont hide them so i can never fidn them!) === Hobbsee wonders if that was discussed in teh sane kubuntu defaults spec [08:41] btw, the description for kde-guidance should probably be changed to mention the wineconfig module [08:41] Jucato, and why I modded katapult to run "kcontrol" even if it isnt in the menu (private branch) [08:42] haha :) [08:42] Mez: do it by default? please? [08:42] Jucato: wineconfig module? [08:42] er... defeats the whole purpose of System Settings, right? :P [08:42] Hobbsee: yes. KDE frontend to winecfg. it's included in kde-guidance [08:42] Jucato: but wine isnt installed by default [08:42] Jucato, what defeats the whole purpose of SS ? [08:43] KControl -> System Administration [08:43] Mez: to let kcontrol be accessed [08:43] Mez: having KControl accessible directly by default [08:43] system settings does have it's good points, but it still needs work [08:43] Jucato, but surely if you type "kcontrol" into katapult, it's no worse than typing "kcontrol" into "Run Program [08:43] Hobbsee: yes. but even if it wine is installed, it's not added to System Settings anyway. but still, wineconfig is in kde-guidance, whether or not wine is installed [08:44] Mez: true. probably in Katapult only, not in K Menu... although that would be strange.hehehe [08:44] Jucato: where's wineconfig in kde-guidance? ohhh, right [08:44] i get you === Jucato whistles gleefully [08:44] :P [08:45] Jucato, yes, but thats what I've done (added a manual entry to the program catalog from within katapult)_ [08:45] :) [08:45] Mez: will Katapult be able to recursively search within /home directories in the future? [08:46] Jucato, it... osrt of ... can [08:46] you can at least go down direcrtories [08:47] so if you wanna access ~/cheese/stilton/old [08:47] then you type cheese / stilton / old [08:47] and it works [08:47] aah [08:47] it's a lot of work,though [08:48] Jucato, feel free to write a kio_locate plugin ;) [08:48] hmm === Mez tries to remember how to compile a KDE app with debugging symbols [08:48] nixternal also has a workaround for adding apps to Katapult without adding them to the kmenu. put symlinks to the apps in /home O_o [08:49] lol @ that [08:51] Mez: so the Document plugin for Katapult relies on kio_locate? [08:51] Jucato, lol .. no [08:51] go look at the code [08:51] ah ok. :) === Jucato wonders if he'll even make sense of the code, but takes a look anyway :) [08:53] er.. gtg... 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You wish. :-P [09:06] heh === Hobbsee runs apt-get install kubuntu-desktop on liquified === Hobbsee runs from StevenK [09:07] Hobbsee: Meh, what do I care, it's just hard drive space? [09:08] point [09:09] anyone know how to compile a KDE app with debug symbols? [09:09] --enable-debug=full === StevenK waves to Riddell. [09:09] Riddell: You wanted to see me here? :-) [09:10] moin Riddell [09:10] Riddell, last time I tried that it gave me soo boohickey when I ran it through gdb saying something like "you passed this argument - were not going ot output debubg info bacause of this" [09:10] hey Riddell [09:11] StevenK: yes, you're to fix the rest of kde now. thanks! [09:11] heheh :) [09:11] StevenK, - you might need this - http://bugs.kde.org/ [09:12] hi StevenK! [09:12] Hobbsee: Hah [09:12] StevenK: you know you want to. [09:12] StevenK: it was just about your patch to wlassistant, but I worked out my question so I've passed it for review to ubuntu-sru === StevenK nods. [09:13] Out of interest, what was the question? [09:14] I wondered if dhclient was translated, which would mean the if statement wouldn't match on the stderr message [09:14] but it's not === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:14] Oh geez, I never even thought of that. [09:15] well, you didn't have to :) [09:16] win 11 [09:17] hmm, time to sleep [09:17] Riddell: you've thrown another all nighter? [09:18] I went out to the cinema, and now it's midnight so time for bed [09:18] heh gnight Riddell [09:18] time for bed for me also [09:19] ahhhh [09:19] o_O [09:20] you learn something new every day [09:20] oh yeah, you're not back in london yet [09:20] katapult doesnt exit on exit [09:20] it crashes on exit [09:20] oh yeah - when everyone's bored sometime, check out the package "blast" [09:20] :P === StevenK throughly blasted wlassistant today. [09:21] Very theraputic. === Mez growls [09:22] Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [09:22] [Switching to Thread -1239757920 (LWP 29351)] [09:22] 0xb7262df4 in QMutex::lock () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 [09:22] ARGH! [09:23] Neat. Isn't that stack corruption? [09:23] StevenK, wouldnt know :D [09:23] StevenK, looks to be [09:23] lol -its a bug somewhere in the multithreading === imbrandon -> beds [09:24] what the f*** !!!!!!!! [09:24] http://tonio.homelinux.org/index.php?2006/10/10/7-kubuntu-voip-solution#co [09:24] even on blog comments they are spamming now ! [09:25] Tonio_, is that wordpress? [09:26] Mez: nope, I use dotclear (very popular french blog php script) [09:27] Tonio_, I believe akismet works with it [09:27] http://akismet.com [09:27] Mez: I'll have a look interesting [09:27] is that a "website antispam solution" ? [09:27] yes [09:27] i use it [09:27] works pretty well === imbrandon -> really beds [09:28] imbrandon: thanks :) [09:28] Mez: you're right, it is also dotclear compatible, great ;) [09:28] Tonio_, works uber well [09:28] I've had about 5 comments it hasnt caughht [09:28] in qa year [09:29] interesting indeed [09:29] I am used to do my own scripts except on my blog so I never got that kind of issues, but of course with public scripts, that can happen [09:32] hmmm [09:32] The program catalog is making katapult crash === ttoine [n=ttoine@tri69-2-89-80-32-83.dsl.club-internet.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === shnee [n=CurtyD13@cpe-65-24-168-255.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180074194.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === shnee [n=CurtyD13@cpe-65-24-168-255.columbus.res.rr.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ttoine [n=ttoine@tri69-2-89-80-32-83.dsl.club-internet.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has 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[11:51] Hobbsee: http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kopete-fix/ <--- fixes a bug in Kopete (supposedly) [11:51] kde bug 136566 [11:51] Jucato: that guy's on our channel [11:51] KDE bug 136566 in general "Connecting to ICQ doesn't work anymore" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136566 [11:51] ooh? who? [11:51] fdoving: i think === Jucato finds it hard to "filter" the good from the bad... :( [11:52] Hobbsee: ok. I'll investigate... [11:52] that upgrader script doesnt look too bad [11:53] apt-get -y dist-upgrade is kinda scary, but it needs to be there [11:53] i'm surprised they dont force k-d at the end, too [11:53] or maybe they do [11:54] hm... just curious. is there a sort of plan to release some upgrades for kde soon? some (maybe a lot) of bugs have been fixed recently. (like the korgac bug) [11:54] i think they were talking about a kde 3.5.6? [11:55] I think Riddell mentioned 3.5.6 hasn't even been planned yet? [11:55] true [11:56] nah nvm. just wondering a lot about the -update process and bug fixing process.. [11:56] ah yeah, it's fdoving's site alright... === Jucato blushes in embarassment [11:59] Jucato: i think part of the reasons that updates arent going thru too quickly is the whole SRU thing - stuff getting mroe tested first, and tehy're still figuring out what's happening [12:00] mroe tested? [12:03] more tested, yes [12:03] ah... [12:05] I wonder if ICQ not working at all, or focus follows/under mouse not working properly, or the korgac system tray icon not working is worthy of SRU... [12:06] oh well... maybe I'll bother with these things some other time in the future. thanks for pointing me in the right direction (SRU stuff) === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has left #kubuntu-devel [] === freeflying_ [i=flyingfr@gobstopper.dreamhost.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@12.198.166.130] has joined #kubuntu-devel === J-a-r [n=netstar@c83-252-124-128.bredband.comhem.se] has joined #kubuntu-devel === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jjesse [n=jjesse@12.198.166.130] has left #kubuntu-devel [] [03:40] Howdy === marseillai_ [n=cyril@AMarseille-256-1-151-19.w90-10.abo.wanadoo.fr] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [04:15] fdoving: have your kopete fixes been distributed as updates? [04:42] are there still free smoothies in the googleplex? :D === jpetso [n=jpetso@193.170.48.226] has joined #kubuntu-devel === mbiebl [n=michael@e180088058.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === DaSkreech [n=skreech@196.1.142.242] has joined #kubuntu-devel === restwix [n=restwix@204.185.203.230] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jatos [n=root@82-34-227-22.cable.ubr05.gill.blueyonder.co.uk] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:24] hi === restwix [n=restwix@204.185.203.230] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === jpatrick [n=patrick@ubuntu/member/jpatrick] has joined #kubuntu-devel === jatos [n=root@82-34-227-22.cable.ubr05.gill.blueyonder.co.uk] has left #kubuntu-devel ["Konversation] === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel === oslo [n=oslo@alf94-5-82-225-102-119.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:39] hell [05:40] DaSkreech: no, wrong place [05:40] O === restwix [n=restwix@204.185.203.230] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:54] bah, evil kdelibs not compling === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #kubuntu-devel [05:59] try the good ones? [06:00] Of course all the good ones are taken :-( === Tonio__ [n=tonio@160.207.103-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:08] Riddell: I widelly tested codeine today and it still have some issues to be used by default... [06:08] restwix: Hello [06:10] DaSkreech: what up? [06:10] Found your way :) [06:10] How's the page helping out? [06:10] Yep [06:10] well right now I'm looking some stuff in the website [06:11] trying to get my arround on what is going on and so === bddebian [n=bdefrees@mail.ottens.com] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:11] Well the best place is to figure out what skills you can offer [06:12] What if I don't have any? :-) [06:12] Then just deride other Oses [06:12] hehe [06:13] I wan't to see if I can find something that I can help, and then I will see if I'm able to help or not. [06:14] restwix: That's another good way. Find something you are insterested in then offer up time [06:14] DaSkreech: That's true... === MidMark [n=marco@host-84-220-98-43.cust-adsl.tiscali.it] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:17] where can I find Martin Pitt? Is it in irc usually? [06:19] Google? [06:19] MidMark: pitti [06:20] imbrandon: I'm ordering right now [06:20] thx he's online! [06:21] restwix: When You get an idea of what you want just holler in here [06:21] anyone is having problem with mounting dvd? I have asked a lot of time but none has answered me... [06:21] if I mount dvd with one session closed and disc still open I cannot read it [06:22] Edgy? [06:22] DaSkreech: yes [06:23] known? === luis__lopez [n=luis_lop@68.182.93.121] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #kubuntu-devel [06:34] HI mez [06:38] imbrandon: ping ? 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[07:40] Mez: we're all busy doing this conference thing === mbiebl [n=michael@e180088058.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:45] Riddell: did you resolv the libqt thing ? I can try to work on that toonight if you want [07:47] Riddell: concerning the kdelibs packages did you use the ones I already uploaded to feisty (including the media simplification patches) === NiteFears [n=nite@bzq-88-152-187-237.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:53] hey [07:54] Hi. [07:54] kopete's icq is broken for more than 2 weeks already. they have a patch, but it didn't make it into ubuntu repositories. what's up with that? [07:55] NiteFears, first of all which kubuntu version ? and it takes a process to go through the SRU updates [07:56] imbrandon: I'm using ubuntu edgy, actually, so running kopete from gnome [07:56] :-) [07:56] 64bit? [07:56] imbrandon: the kopete guys did release a .deb, but not for x64 architecture [07:56] DaSkreech: Hrr. [07:56] DaSkreech :P [07:56] Heehee [07:56] ok, it should be in SRU shortly [07:57] shortly != today [07:57] NiteFears, and we cant rely on thier debs as we're not certain how they are made or what they are compiled against === mhb [n=mhb@64.73.broadband3.iol.cz] has joined #kubuntu-devel [07:58] :) [07:58] imbrandon: that's your business, I just explained, why the existing solutions don't work for me [07:58] imbrandon: Would the debs at http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kopete-fix/ be sufficent? [07:59] DaSkreech, depends, most likely not unless its exactly the version thats currently in edgy with only that icq patch [07:59] witch is unlikely [07:59] SRU updates are minimal === jdong [n=jdong@ubuntu/member/jdong] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:04] NiteFears, afaik there is an update in -proposed also [08:04] i think i uploaded it last week === pascalFR_ [i=qPfurTSs@82.230.174.61] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:05] imbrandon: 64Bit as well I assume? [08:05] imbrandon: sorry, no idea what you are talking about [08:05] DaSkreech, it would have been built for all arches === joe3k [n=joe@p54942FFB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:05] NiteFears, edgy-proposed are where SRU updates are tested before they are released to a stable release [08:06] as it requires much more testing [08:06] imbrandon: does it mean there's a build package over there and I can download it? [08:06] s/build/built [08:07] Yes [08:07] should be , let me check to make sure it actualy made it to -proposed [08:07] please do, the direct link would be great [08:08] whats the version you have installed ? [08:08] "dpkg -l|grep ii|grep kopete" [08:08] imbrandon: 0.12.3 [08:08] ii kopete 3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu1 instant messenger for KDE [08:08] k one sec [08:09] nope its not built yet [08:09] i'll try to get to that later this afternoon for you [08:09] thanks a lot [08:09] imbrandon: Yay! [08:10] imbrandon: would you give me a link where the packages will magically appear? [08:10] so that I can check for them today or tomorrow [08:10] if you have edgy-proposed in your sources.list OR http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kopete/ [08:10] check tomarrow, it will take a while on the buildd's etc [08:11] imbrandon: thanks a lot! [08:11] if you manualy get the deb be carefull, as you can mess it up getting the wrong deb [08:11] from the pool [08:11] very very very easy [08:12] I think you missed a very [08:13] imbrandon: how will the package be called? [08:13] nevermind, I'll look at the date [08:13] 3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu1.1 most likely [08:14] ok [08:14] depends on hows its done it /could/ be 3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu2~edgy1 also [08:15] so look for either of those [08:18] imbrandon: I will. again, thanks for your time === ingmar^ [n=ingmar@86-39-40-250.customer.fulladsl.be] has joined #kubuntu-devel [08:24] Tonio_: which libqt thing? [08:25] Tonio_: yes I used the existing feisty pacakges [08:25] Riddell: okay [08:25] Riddell: the libqt build problem [08:26] Riddell: I don't remember the exact package name [08:26] one of the python-qt's had a build problem === marseillai_ is now known as marseillai [09:14] kwwii: this is currently on the front page of slashdot http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/11/14/1714241 [09:15] Riddell: okay, is the python-qt thing resolved or do you want me to investigate ? [09:15] go ahead [09:16] it's listed on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+milestone/later [09:16] Tonio_: why delete linphone? [09:16] Riddell: gtk app [09:17] Riddell: if we accept gtk apps, then we can include ekiga and the problem is resolved :) [09:19] http://linphone.org/index.php/v2/screenshots [09:19] the window manager there is kde but the toolkit is gtk2, unfortunately :) [09:20] curious, I thought they usually did stuff in qt [09:21] is it just a fork of ekiga I wonder? [09:21] nope is it a sip solution from scratch afaik [09:22] mhb: well.. no idea. It got approved and uploaded to -proposed shortly before UDS, upstream changed the fix, waiting for approval of new patch, hasn't been easy to get in touch with mdz or cjwatson lately. [09:28] okay let's go on the multimedia simplification thing [09:28] Riddell: it looks like a lot of people are affraid to simplify kaffeine... [09:29] codeine cannot be shiped by default since it has issues dealing with contrast and crashes konqueror too [09:29] I wonder what to do.... simply patching the mimetypes then to remove kaffeine from audio and that's it ? [09:29] yep [09:30] okay I'll do that as soon as I can upload [09:30] hola compadres [09:30] just let me know when it is possible [09:30] hey nixternal :) [09:31] I'll get the maximum audio apps (like jabbin) in universe, even if we don't ship with it [09:34] fdoving: do you know the kde bug number for this? [09:34] Riddell: hang on. [09:34] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136566 [09:34] KDE bug 136566 in general "Connecting to ICQ doesn't work anymore" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [09:35] according to #kopete MSN is broken too [09:36] mine is not. [09:36] with that fix, anyway. [09:37] I can try the repo version. [09:37] hang on. [09:37] maybe they mean in an SVN version [09:37] Riddell: well msn works at least with the standard 3.5.5 release [09:37] Riddell: probably yes [09:39] http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y9nxcOj5q-8 [09:39] so cuuuuuuuuute ! === Tonio_ really needs a baby ;) [09:40] lol [09:40] papa tonio [09:41] heya seele [09:41] look at this little girl ! I am already in love :) hehe [09:42] imbrandon: word [09:44] Riddell: I'm packaging wengophone to check if the qt4.2 issue is resolved === imbrandon heads out for some lunch, see yall in a bit === orkid [n=orkid@bas1-barrie18-1242377643.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #kubuntu-devel [09:46] Tonio_: are their codine packages > [09:46] ? [09:46] imbrandon: yes the package is done but it has too many issues to be used by default in my opinion [09:47] heh everything has issues, its just what is the lesser of the evils, but no i was asking just to try it, not nessesarly default [09:47] imbrandon: yes but codeine issues are : [09:48] no playlist, issues setting contrast correctly on most videos, and crashes konqueror too [09:48] no no your mis understanding me, i'm not trying to make it default, i just wanted to try it [09:48] :) [09:49] Riddell: msn works in the kopete-edgy package. [09:49] imbrandon: ah, in that case yes you can install it, I did the package with allee [09:49] anyhow, out for lunch, bbiab [09:49] kk Tonio_ [09:52] I can't wait for oskar to be out...... [10:03] Tonio_: fwiw simple-just-work-apps don't need playlists :) *hides* [10:05] allee: hum, eventually, but concerning the contrast issue, that's very annoying [10:07] Tonio_: never noticed such a problem. But you convienced me last time that kaffein file not also shows a understandable GUI immediately [10:07] s/not/ [10:07] allee: yes the UI is better now [10:07] I would just like it to be cleaned of all the audio features in fact [10:08] but if we do that........ we'll get burned by the community :) [10:08] Tonio_: instead of cleaning jumping to amarok would be even better [10:08] the very cool thing is that there is a project to merge several kde3 apps into one good one for kde4 [10:08] Tonio_: yeah, I read the comments on the wiki [10:09] allee: the amarok integration is already done in fact [10:09] someone that just clicks to open will have a convenient file associations now [10:10] Riddell: concerning the integration of dvd rip in K3B, I'll probably not to it since that requires mencoder... [10:10] Tonio_: a chaos gain;) soffice was splitted, and now the merge apps. IMHO koffice,kontact does it right. You can use in merged view or standalone [10:10] Riddell: will not work out of the box... [10:10] allee: kpart used by default ? [10:11] Tonio_: not sure what kontact uses, but I assime kparts too [10:12] well that's not that bad isn't it ? [10:12] Tonio_: :) [10:13] Tonio_: k3b: when memcoder is _needed_ but not installed, popup a nice dialog that explains why's not there and where to get it === Jozo-_ [i=jozo@viola.uninea.fi] has joined #kubuntu-devel === Hawkwind [n=SoS@ulteo/community-leader/Hawkwind] has joined #Kubuntu-Devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel [10:58] http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org/blog/ <-- flames coming shortly === mbiebl [n=michael@e180110076.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #kubuntu-devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #kubuntu-devel === ajmitch [n=ajmitch@ubuntu/member/ajmitch] has joined #kubuntu-devel === pinheir0 [n=pinheiro@82.155.221.203] has joined #kubuntu-devel === neoncode [n=neoncode@unaffiliated/neoncode] has joined #kubuntu-devel