[01:55] <nixternal> imbrandon: is there a kubuntu list of packages for feisty yet, or just pick some and rock and roll?
[01:55] <nixternal> im going to setup a fesity pbuilder after dinner, and mess around because im whacked out of my mind
[02:00] <Riddell> nixternal: wait until I upload qt/arts/kdelibs/kdebase before uploading anything
[02:00] <nixternal> roger that
[02:00] <Riddell> I'm not sure if merge o matic is running yet?
[02:00] <nixternal> it looks like it is
[02:00] <nixternal> i seen a bunch of ubuntu installer ones here just a little while ago
[02:01] <Riddell> http://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html http://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html
[02:01] <Riddell> search for your own name on those pages for starters
[02:01] <nixternal> rockin
[02:02] <nixternal> ok, im not that cool...not on the list ;)
[02:18] <imbrandon> nixternal, if you want something to do you can work on my kvirc merge ( universe page )
[02:18] <imbrandon> i have a few others keeping me busy atm
[02:18] <Hobbsee> heh
[02:18] <Hobbsee> good luck with that
[02:18] <imbrandon> heh it should actualy be pretty streight forward
[02:18] <imbrandon> but takes forever to compile and test
[02:18] <imbrandon> lol
[02:19] <imbrandon> Riddell, 3.5.6 ? or just updates 
[02:21] <Jucato> moin Hobbsee, imbrandon!
[02:21] <imbrandon> heya
[02:23] <Riddell> imbrandon: given tat 3.5.6 hasn't even been scheduled yet...
[02:24] <imbrandon> ahh very true, i just wasent sure "how long" you were talking about a wait
[02:24] <imbrandon> :)
[02:24] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato 
[02:25] <Hobbsee> and i read my timetable wrong - the last two exams are two days earlier than i thought.  ouch
[02:28] <imbrandon> ouch
[02:28] <Jucato> double ouch (2 days)
[02:28] <imbrandon> as long as 2 days isnt 2 day ago your golden :)
[02:29] <Riddell> imbrandon: last today
[02:29] <imbrandon> Riddell, cool
[02:38] <Hobbsee> imbrandon: yeah, well...ouch
[03:04] <imbrandon> Tonio_, ping
[05:24] <nixternal> imbrandon: were you serious about kvirc, or were you muckin' with me?
[05:24] <nixternal> kvirc is some serious stuff, to bad it is fooogly
[05:25] <imbrandon> nixternal, no i was serouis if you want to do it
[05:25] <nixternal> k, no hurry?  as like i can play a little tomorrow?
[05:25] <imbrandon> sure
[05:25] <imbrandon> yea no rush
[05:25] <nixternal> im contemplating pillow suicide
[05:25] <imbrandon> lol
[05:25] <nixternal> im beat to death
[08:23] <Jucato> shouldn't the (tm) be immediately after DOOM? :P
[08:23] <Hobbsee> could be
[08:23] <Hobbsee> but the !!!'s are part of the trademark
[08:24] <Jucato> lol
[08:26] <Hobbsee> hah
[08:27] <Hobbsee> hey Lure 
[08:28] <Lure> hi Hobbsee
[08:28] <Jucato> ouch...
[08:29] <Hobbsee> Mez: ouch. that was silly
[08:29] <Mez> :P
[08:29] <Jucato> lol
[08:30] <Mez> a
[08:31] <Jucato> the 'a' fell off...
[08:31] <Hobbsee> Mez: bring it here, when it's cooked.  and dont stick poison in it!
[08:32] <Hobbsee> Mez: ever had pizza with mayonaise on it?
[08:32] <Hobbsee> or yoghurt?
[08:32] <Jucato> eww...
[08:32] <Mez> Hobbsee, I've had pizza with pretty much anything on it
[08:32] <Hobbsee> heh
[08:32] <Mez> I make my own pizzas
[08:32] <Jucato> pizza with strawberries?
[08:32] <Hobbsee> oh yes, yoghurt was the one that i had once.  it was certainly....interesting
[08:32] <Jucato> chocolate pizza?
[08:32] <Hobbsee> Mez: same here.  tasty  :)
[08:32] <Hobbsee> Jucato: ooh!!!!  dont be evil like that!
[08:33] <Jucato> lol
[08:33] <Hobbsee> Jucato: good thing that seele doesnt seem to be watching
[08:34] <Jucato> she's probably asleep. as most of the US citizens are
[08:35] <Hobbsee> mm...true that.  depends where they are though
[08:37] <Mez> Jucato, lol... why?
[08:37] <Jucato> "Ubuntu... purposely crippling KDE?" http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=299933&goto=newpost
[08:37] <Mez> I mean - BACKPORTS
[08:37] <Jucato> heheh
[08:38] <Jucato> sheesh, they even copied the official web page style?
[08:38] <Hobbsee> he's usually got more sense, too
[08:39] <Jucato> yeah, he was one of the proponents of the "Forum Ambassadors" thing
[08:39] <Jucato> s/was/is
[08:39] <Jucato> which makes it even more frustrating/annoying to see this from him
[08:40] <Hobbsee> indeed
[08:40] <Hobbsee> that being said, a lot of system settings still sucks, and needs work
[08:41] <Jucato> yeah... which is why I made a modified system-settings.menu for myself :P
[08:41] <Hobbsee> (like, stick all the extra modules in advanced, if you dont want to put them in general.  but dont hide them so i can never fidn them!)
[08:41] <Jucato> btw, the description for kde-guidance should probably be changed to mention the wineconfig module
[08:41] <Mez> Jucato, and why I modded katapult to run "kcontrol" even if it isnt in the menu (private branch)
[08:42] <Jucato> haha :)
[08:42] <Hobbsee> Mez: do it by default?  please?
[08:42] <Hobbsee> Jucato: wineconfig module?
[08:42] <Jucato> er... defeats the whole purpose of System Settings, right? :P
[08:42] <Jucato> Hobbsee: yes. KDE frontend to winecfg. it's included in kde-guidance
[08:42] <Hobbsee> Jucato: but wine isnt installed by default
[08:42] <Mez> Jucato, what defeats the whole purpose of SS ?
[08:43] <Jucato> KControl ->  System Administration
[08:43] <Hobbsee> Mez: to let kcontrol be accessed
[08:43] <Jucato> Mez: having KControl accessible directly by default
[08:43] <Hobbsee> system settings does have it's good points, but it still needs work
[08:43] <Mez> Jucato,  but surely if you type "kcontrol" into katapult, it's no worse than typing "kcontrol" into "Run Program
[08:43] <Jucato> Hobbsee: yes. but even if it wine is installed, it's not added to System Settings anyway. but still, wineconfig is in kde-guidance, whether or not wine is installed
[08:44] <Jucato> Mez: true. probably in Katapult only, not in K Menu... although that would be strange.hehehe
[08:44] <Hobbsee> Jucato: where's wineconfig in kde-guidance?  ohhh, right
[08:44] <Hobbsee> i get you
[08:44] <Hobbsee> :P
[08:45] <Mez> Jucato, yes, but thats what I've done (added a manual entry to the program catalog from within katapult)_
[08:45] <Jucato> :)
[08:45] <Jucato> Mez: will Katapult be able to recursively search within /home directories in the future?
[08:46] <Mez> Jucato, it... osrt of ... can
[08:46] <Mez> you can at least go down direcrtories
[08:47] <Mez> so if you wanna access ~/cheese/stilton/old
[08:47] <Mez> then you type cheese / stilton / old
[08:47] <Mez> and it works
[08:47] <Jucato> aah
[08:47] <Jucato> it's a lot of work,though
[08:48] <Mez> Jucato, feel free to write a kio_locate plugin ;)
[08:48] <Mez> hmm
[08:48] <Jucato> nixternal also has a workaround for adding apps to Katapult without adding them to the kmenu. put symlinks to the apps in /home O_o
[08:49] <Mez> lol @ that
[08:51] <Jucato> Mez: so the Document plugin for Katapult relies on kio_locate?
[08:51] <Mez> Jucato, lol .. no
[08:51] <Mez> go look at the code
[08:51] <Jucato> ah ok. :)
[08:53] <Jucato> er.. gtg... I'll put that on my personal todo. hehehe
[09:05] <Hobbsee> StevenK: you're coming over to the light.  welcome :P
[09:05] <StevenK> Hah. You wish. :-P
[09:06] <Hobbsee> heh
[09:07] <StevenK> Hobbsee: Meh, what do I care, it's just hard drive space?
[09:08] <Hobbsee> point
[09:09] <Mez> anyone know how to compile a KDE app with debug symbols?
[09:09] <Riddell> --enable-debug=full
[09:09] <StevenK> Riddell: You wanted to see me here? :-)
[09:10] <Jucato> moin Riddell
[09:10] <Mez> Riddell, last time I tried that it gave me soo boohickey when I ran it through gdb saying something like "you passed this argument - were not going ot output debubg info bacause of this"
[09:10] <Hobbsee> hey Riddell 
[09:11] <Hobbsee> StevenK: yes, you're to fix the rest of kde now.  thanks!
[09:11] <Jucato> heheh :)
[09:11] <Mez> StevenK, - you might need this - http://bugs.kde.org/
[09:12] <Riddell> hi StevenK!
[09:12] <StevenK> Hobbsee: Hah
[09:12] <Hobbsee> StevenK: you know you want to.
[09:12] <Riddell> StevenK: it was just about your patch to wlassistant, but I worked out my question so I've passed it for review to ubuntu-sru
[09:13] <StevenK> Out of interest, what was the question?
[09:14] <Riddell> I wondered if dhclient was translated, which would mean the if statement wouldn't match on the stderr message
[09:14] <Riddell> but it's not
[09:14] <StevenK> Oh geez, I never even thought of that.
[09:15] <Riddell> well, you didn't have to :)
[09:16] <Riddell> win 11
[09:17] <Riddell> hmm, time to sleep
[09:17] <Hobbsee> Riddell: you've thrown another all nighter?
[09:18] <Riddell> I went out to the cinema, and now it's midnight so time for bed
[09:18] <imbrandon> heh gnight Riddell
[09:18] <imbrandon> time for bed for me also
[09:19] <Hobbsee> ahhhh
[09:19] <Mez> o_O
[09:20] <Mez> you learn something new every day
[09:20] <Hobbsee> oh yeah, you're not back in london yet
[09:20] <Mez> katapult doesnt exit on exit
[09:20] <Mez> it crashes on exit
[09:20] <Hobbsee> oh yeah - when everyone's bored sometime, check out the package "blast"
[09:20] <Hobbsee> :P
[09:21] <StevenK> Very theraputic.
[09:22] <Mez> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[09:22] <Mez> [Switching to Thread -1239757920 (LWP 29351)] 
[09:22] <Mez> 0xb7262df4 in QMutex::lock () from /usr/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
[09:22] <Mez> ARGH!
[09:23] <StevenK> Neat. Isn't that stack corruption?
[09:23] <Mez> StevenK, wouldnt know :D
[09:23] <imbrandon> StevenK, looks to be
[09:23] <Mez> lol -its a bug somewhere in the multithreading
[09:24] <Tonio_> what the f*** !!!!!!!!
[09:24] <Tonio_> http://tonio.homelinux.org/index.php?2006/10/10/7-kubuntu-voip-solution#co
[09:24] <Tonio_> even on blog comments they are spamming now !
[09:25] <Mez> Tonio_, is that wordpress?
[09:26] <Tonio_> Mez: nope, I use dotclear (very popular french blog php script)
[09:27] <Mez> Tonio_, I believe akismet works with it
[09:27] <Mez> http://akismet.com
[09:27] <Tonio_> Mez: I'll have a look interesting
[09:27] <Tonio_> is that a "website antispam solution" ?
[09:27] <imbrandon> yes
[09:27] <imbrandon> i use it
[09:27] <imbrandon> works pretty well
[09:28] <Tonio_> imbrandon: thanks :)
[09:28] <Tonio_> Mez: you're right, it is also dotclear compatible, great ;)
[09:28] <Mez> Tonio_, works uber well
[09:28] <Mez> I've had about 5 comments it hasnt caughht
[09:28] <Mez> in qa year
[09:29] <Tonio_> interesting indeed
[09:29] <Tonio_> I am used to do my own scripts except on my blog so I never got that kind of issues, but of course with public scripts, that can happen
[09:32] <Mez> hmmm
[09:32] <Mez> The program catalog is making katapult crash
[11:07] <Jucato> wb Hobbsee
[11:09] <Hobbsee> hey Jucato 
[11:42] <Jucato> great, another one of those sites... http://ubuntu.lnix.net/
[11:49] <Hobbsee> Jucato: what's that for?
[11:51] <Jucato> Hobbsee: http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kopete-fix/ <--- fixes a bug in Kopete (supposedly)
[11:51] <Jucato> kde bug 136566
[11:51] <Hobbsee> Jucato: that guy's on our channel
[11:51] <Ubugtu> KDE bug 136566 in general "Connecting to ICQ doesn't work anymore" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]  http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136566
[11:51] <Jucato> ooh? who?
[11:51] <Hobbsee> fdoving: i think
[11:52] <Jucato> Hobbsee: ok. I'll investigate...
[11:52] <Hobbsee> that upgrader script doesnt look too bad
[11:53] <Hobbsee> apt-get -y dist-upgrade is kinda scary, but it needs to be there
[11:53] <Hobbsee> i'm surprised they dont force k-d at the end, too
[11:53] <Hobbsee> or maybe they do
[11:54] <Jucato> hm... just curious. is there a sort of plan to release some upgrades for kde soon? some (maybe a lot) of bugs have been fixed recently. (like the korgac bug)
[11:54] <Hobbsee> i think they were talking about a kde 3.5.6?
[11:55] <Jucato> I think Riddell mentioned 3.5.6 hasn't even been planned yet?
[11:55] <Hobbsee> true
[11:56] <Jucato> nah nvm. just wondering a lot about the -update process and bug fixing process..
[11:56] <Jucato> ah yeah, it's fdoving's site alright...
[11:59] <Hobbsee> Jucato: i think part of the reasons that updates arent going thru too quickly is the whole SRU thing - stuff getting mroe tested first, and tehy're still figuring out what's happening
[12:00] <Jucato> mroe tested?
[12:03] <Hobbsee> more tested, yes
[12:03] <Jucato> ah...
[12:05] <Jucato> I wonder if ICQ not working at all, or focus follows/under mouse not working properly, or the korgac system tray icon not working is worthy of SRU...
[12:06] <Jucato> oh well... maybe I'll bother with these things some other time in the future. thanks for pointing me in the right direction (SRU stuff)
[03:40] <bddebian> Howdy
[04:15] <mhb> fdoving: have your kopete fixes been distributed as updates?
[04:42] <jdong> are there still free smoothies in the googleplex? :D
[05:24] <jatos> hi
[05:39] <DaSkreech> hell
[05:40] <jpatrick> DaSkreech: no, wrong place
[05:40] <DaSkreech> O
[05:54] <Riddell> bah, evil kdelibs not compling
[05:59] <DaSkreech> try the good ones?
[06:00] <DaSkreech> Of  course all the good ones are taken :-(
[06:08] <Tonio_> Riddell: I widelly tested codeine today and it still have some issues to be used by default...
[06:08] <DaSkreech> restwix: Hello
[06:10] <restwix> DaSkreech: what up?
[06:10] <DaSkreech> Found your way :)
[06:10] <DaSkreech> How's the page helping out?
[06:10] <restwix> Yep
[06:10] <restwix> well right now I'm looking some stuff in the website
[06:11] <restwix> trying to get my arround on what is going on and so
[06:11] <DaSkreech> Well the best place is to figure out what skills you can offer
[06:12] <bddebian> What if I don't have any? :-)
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Then just deride other Oses 
[06:12] <bddebian> hehe
[06:13] <restwix> I wan't to see if I can find something that I can help, and then I will see if I'm able to help or not.
[06:14] <DaSkreech> restwix: That's another good way. Find something you are insterested in then offer up time
[06:14] <restwix> DaSkreech: That's true...
[06:17] <MidMark> where can I find Martin Pitt? Is it in irc usually?
[06:19] <DaSkreech> Google?
[06:19] <bddebian> MidMark: pitti
[06:20] <Tonio_> imbrandon: I'm ordering right now
[06:20] <MidMark> thx he's online!
[06:21] <DaSkreech> restwix: When You get an idea of what you want just holler in here
[06:21] <MidMark> anyone is having problem with mounting dvd? I have asked a lot of time but none has answered me...
[06:21] <MidMark> if I mount dvd with one session closed and disc still open I cannot read it
[06:22] <DaSkreech> Edgy?
[06:22] <MidMark> DaSkreech: yes
[06:23] <MidMark> known?
[06:34] <DaSkreech> HI mez
[06:38] <Tonio_> imbrandon: ping ?
[06:39] <imbrandon> Tonio_, pong
[07:02] <imbrandon> Riddell, ping
[07:34] <Mez> fdoving ping
[07:35] <Mez> fdoving unping
[07:35] <Riddell> hi imbrandon 
[07:36] <imbrandon> heya Riddell, are all the kdebaseish stuff updated? i have a few kde type apps to upload
[07:36] <imbrandon> but you said wait a bit
[07:36] <imbrandon> :)
[07:37] <Riddell> no, kdelibs failed, still working out why
[07:37] <imbrandon> ok no worries
[07:37] <imbrandon> i still have to wait for keybuk or someone to manualy promote libmtp
[07:37] <imbrandon> can you poke him IRL if you see him, i left a ping for him in -devel
[07:38] <Mez> Riddell, have you any idea about what the hold up on approving katapult for an SRU is ?
[07:40] <Riddell> Mez: we're all busy doing this conference thing
[07:45] <Tonio_> Riddell: did you resolv the libqt thing ? I can try to work on that toonight if you want
[07:47] <Tonio_> Riddell: concerning the kdelibs packages did you use the ones I already uploaded to feisty (including the media simplification patches)
[07:53] <NiteFears> hey
[07:54] <Tm_T> Hi.
[07:54] <NiteFears> kopete's icq is broken for more than 2 weeks already. they have a patch, but it didn't make it into ubuntu repositories. what's up with that?
[07:55] <imbrandon> NiteFears, first of all which kubuntu version ? and it takes a process to go through the SRU updates
[07:56] <NiteFears> imbrandon: I'm using ubuntu edgy, actually, so running kopete from gnome
[07:56] <DaSkreech> :-)
[07:56] <DaSkreech> 64bit?
[07:56] <NiteFears> imbrandon: the kopete guys did release a .deb, but not for x64 architecture
[07:56] <Tm_T> DaSkreech: Hrr.
[07:56] <NiteFears> DaSkreech :P
[07:56] <DaSkreech> Heehee
[07:56] <imbrandon> ok, it should be in SRU shortly
[07:57] <imbrandon> shortly != today
[07:57] <imbrandon> NiteFears, and we cant rely on thier debs as we're not certain how they are made or what they are compiled against
[07:58] <imbrandon> :)
[07:58] <NiteFears> imbrandon: that's your business, I just explained, why the existing solutions don't work for me
[07:58] <DaSkreech> imbrandon: Would the debs at http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kopete-fix/ be sufficent?
[07:59] <imbrandon> DaSkreech, depends, most likely not unless its exactly the version thats currently in edgy with only that icq patch
[07:59] <imbrandon> witch is unlikely
[07:59] <imbrandon> SRU updates are minimal
[08:04] <imbrandon> NiteFears, afaik there is an update in -proposed also
[08:04] <imbrandon> i think i uploaded it last week
[08:05] <DaSkreech> imbrandon: 64Bit as well I assume?
[08:05] <NiteFears> imbrandon: sorry, no idea what you are talking about
[08:05] <imbrandon> DaSkreech, it would have been built for all arches
[08:05] <imbrandon> NiteFears, edgy-proposed are where SRU updates are tested before they are released to a stable release
[08:06] <imbrandon> as it requires much more testing
[08:06] <NiteFears> imbrandon: does it mean there's a build package over there and I can download it?
[08:06] <NiteFears> s/build/built
[08:07] <DaSkreech> Yes
[08:07] <imbrandon> should be , let me check to make sure it actualy made it to -proposed
[08:07] <NiteFears> please do, the direct link would be great
[08:08] <imbrandon> whats the version you have installed ?
[08:08] <imbrandon> "dpkg -l|grep ii|grep kopete"
[08:08] <NiteFears> imbrandon: 0.12.3
[08:08] <NiteFears> ii  kopete                                       3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu1    instant messenger for KDE
[08:08] <imbrandon> k one sec
[08:09] <imbrandon> nope its not built yet
[08:09] <imbrandon> i'll try to get to that later this afternoon for you
[08:09] <NiteFears> thanks a lot
[08:09] <Tm_T> imbrandon: Yay!
[08:10] <NiteFears> imbrandon: would you give me a link where the packages will magically appear?
[08:10] <NiteFears> so that I can check for them today or tomorrow
[08:10] <imbrandon> if you have edgy-proposed in your sources.list OR http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kopete/
[08:10] <imbrandon> check tomarrow, it will take a while on the buildd's etc
[08:11] <NiteFears> imbrandon: thanks a lot!
[08:11] <imbrandon> if you manualy get the deb be carefull, as you can mess it up getting the wrong deb
[08:11] <imbrandon> from the pool
[08:11] <imbrandon> very very very easy
[08:12] <DaSkreech> I think you missed a very
[08:13] <NiteFears> imbrandon: how will the package be called?
[08:13] <NiteFears> nevermind, I'll look at the date
[08:13] <imbrandon> 3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu1.1 most likely
[08:14] <NiteFears> ok
[08:14] <imbrandon> depends on hows its done it /could/ be 3.5.5+kopete0.12.3-0ubuntu2~edgy1 also
[08:15] <imbrandon> so look for either of those
[08:18] <NiteFears> imbrandon: I will. again, thanks for your time
[08:24] <Riddell> Tonio_: which libqt thing?
[08:25] <Riddell> Tonio_: yes I used the existing feisty pacakges
[08:25] <Tonio_> Riddell: okay
[08:25] <Tonio_> Riddell: the libqt build problem
[08:26] <Tonio_> Riddell: I don't remember the exact package name
[08:26] <Riddell> one of the python-qt's had a build problem
[09:14] <Riddell> kwwii: this is currently on the front page of slashdot http://www.linux.com/article.pl?sid=06/11/14/1714241
[09:15] <Tonio_> Riddell: okay, is the python-qt thing resolved or do you want me to investigate ?
[09:15] <Riddell> go ahead
[09:16] <Riddell> it's listed on https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+milestone/later
[09:16] <Riddell> Tonio_: why delete linphone?
[09:16] <Tonio_> Riddell: gtk app
[09:17] <Tonio_> Riddell: if we accept gtk apps, then we can include ekiga and the problem is resolved :)
[09:19] <Tonio_> http://linphone.org/index.php/v2/screenshots
[09:19] <Tonio_> the window manager there is kde but the toolkit is gtk2, unfortunately :)
[09:20] <Riddell> curious, I thought they usually did stuff in qt
[09:21] <Riddell> is it just a fork of ekiga I wonder?
[09:21] <Tonio_> nope is it a sip solution from scratch afaik
[09:22] <fdoving> mhb: well.. no idea. It got approved and uploaded to -proposed shortly before UDS, upstream changed the fix, waiting for approval of new patch, hasn't been easy to get in touch with mdz or cjwatson lately.
[09:28] <Tonio_> okay let's go on the multimedia simplification thing
[09:28] <Tonio_> Riddell: it looks like a lot of people are affraid to simplify kaffeine...
[09:29] <Tonio_> codeine cannot be shiped by default since it has issues dealing with contrast and crashes konqueror too
[09:29] <Tonio_> I wonder what to do.... simply patching the mimetypes then to remove kaffeine from audio and that's it ?
[09:29] <Riddell> yep
[09:30] <Tonio_> okay I'll do that as soon as I can upload
[09:30] <nixternal> hola compadres
[09:30] <Tonio_> just let me know when it is possible
[09:30] <Tonio_> hey nixternal :)
[09:31] <Tonio_> I'll get the maximum audio apps (like jabbin) in universe, even if we don't ship with it
[09:34] <Riddell> fdoving: do you know the kde bug number for this?
[09:34] <fdoving> Riddell: hang on.
[09:34] <fdoving> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136566
[09:34] <Ubugtu> KDE bug 136566 in general "Connecting to ICQ doesn't work anymore" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]  
[09:35] <Riddell> according to #kopete MSN is broken too
[09:36] <fdoving> mine is not.
[09:36] <fdoving> with that fix, anyway.
[09:37] <fdoving> I can try the repo version.
[09:37] <fdoving> hang on.
[09:37] <Riddell> maybe they mean in an SVN version
[09:37] <Tonio_> Riddell: well msn works at least with the standard 3.5.5 release
[09:37] <Tonio_> Riddell: probably yes
[09:39] <Tonio_> http://youtube.com/watch?v=Y9nxcOj5q-8
[09:39] <Tonio_> so cuuuuuuuuute !
[09:40] <seele> lol
[09:40] <imbrandon> papa tonio
[09:41] <imbrandon> heya seele 
[09:41] <Tonio_> look at this little girl ! I am already in love :) hehe
[09:42] <seele> imbrandon: word
[09:44] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'm packaging wengophone to check if the qt4.2 issue is resolved
[09:46] <imbrandon> Tonio_: are their codine packages >
[09:46] <imbrandon> ?
[09:46] <Tonio_> imbrandon: yes the package is done but it has too many issues to be used by default in my opinion
[09:47] <imbrandon> heh everything has issues, its just what is the lesser of the evils, but no i was asking just to try it, not nessesarly default
[09:47] <Tonio_> imbrandon: yes but codeine issues are :
[09:48] <Tonio_> no playlist, issues setting contrast correctly on most videos, and crashes konqueror too
[09:48] <imbrandon> no no your mis understanding me, i'm not trying to make it default, i just wanted to try it
[09:48] <imbrandon> :)
[09:49] <fdoving> Riddell: msn works in the kopete-edgy package.
[09:49] <Tonio_> imbrandon: ah, in that case yes you can install it, I did the package with allee
[09:49] <imbrandon> anyhow, out for lunch, bbiab
[09:49] <imbrandon> kk Tonio_ 
[09:52] <Tonio_> I can't wait for oskar to be out......
[10:03] <allee> Tonio_: fwiw simple-just-work-apps don't need playlists :)  *hides*
[10:05] <Tonio_> allee: hum, eventually, but concerning the contrast issue, that's very annoying
[10:07] <allee> Tonio_: never noticed such a problem.  But you convienced me last time that kaffein file not also shows a understandable GUI immediately
[10:07] <allee> s/not/
[10:07] <Tonio_> allee: yes the UI is better now
[10:07] <Tonio_> I would just like it to be cleaned of all the audio features in fact
[10:08] <Tonio_> but if we do that........ we'll get burned by the community :)
[10:08] <allee> Tonio_: instead of cleaning jumping to amarok would be even better
[10:08] <Tonio_> the very cool thing is that there is a project to merge several kde3 apps into one good one for kde4
[10:08] <allee> Tonio_: yeah, I read the comments on the wiki
[10:09] <Tonio_> allee: the amarok integration is already done in fact
[10:09] <Tonio_> someone that just clicks to open will have a convenient file associations now
[10:10] <Tonio_> Riddell: concerning the integration of dvd rip in K3B, I'll probably not to it since that requires mencoder...
[10:10] <allee> Tonio_: a chaos gain;) soffice was splitted,  and now the merge apps.  IMHO koffice,kontact does it right. You can use in merged view or standalone
[10:10] <Tonio_> Riddell: will not work out of the box...
[10:10] <Tonio_> allee: kpart used by default ?
[10:11] <allee> Tonio_: not sure what kontact uses, but I assime kparts too
[10:12] <Tonio_> well that's not that bad isn't it ?
[10:12] <allee> Tonio_: :)
[10:13] <allee> Tonio_: k3b: when memcoder is _needed_ but not installed, popup a nice dialog that explains why's not there and where to get it
[10:58] <nixternal> http://nixternal.ubuntu-rocks.org/blog/   <-- flames coming shortly