[12:12] <Kiryn> well if people would talk then i'd see the point imho
[12:12] <__fn0rd__> nope not there
[12:13] <Sir_Brizz> __fn0rd__: if you're in KDE, look at the K-bar. There is an icon on there for "Storage Media"
[12:13] <Sir_Brizz> err
[12:13] <Sir_Brizz> "System Menu"
[12:13] <__fn0rd__> bin   cdrom  etc   initrd      lib         media  opt   root  srv  tmp  var
[12:13] <__fn0rd__> boot  dev    home  initrd.img  lost+found  mnt    proc  sbin  sys  usr  vmlinuz
[12:13] <Kiryn> i wish Windows had something like KDE
[12:13] <__fn0rd__> is what im looking for
[12:13] <__fn0rd__> brb
[12:13] <Sir_Brizz> no
[12:13] <kjelderg> Kiryn: try using kde?
[12:13] <kjelderg> it runs in windows
[12:13] <Kiryn> i love kde hate gnome
[12:14] <Sir_Brizz> KDE is great
[12:14] <Kiryn> yeah probably through crackwin
[12:14] <Sir_Brizz> I don't mind Gnome, but I think KDE is better
[12:14] <Hawkwind> !hidden | __fn0rd__
[12:14] <__fn0rd__> nope not in kbar jus t my dvd
[12:14] <__fn0rd__> how do i unhide?
[12:14] <Sir_Brizz> __fn0rd__: aren't you in KDE??
[12:14] <__fn0rd__> yup
[12:14] <Sir_Brizz> the K-Bar has a bunch of icons on it
[12:14] <Sir_Brizz> like a big blue square with a K in it
[12:14] <Hawkwind> __fn0rd__: Edit the file /.hidden
[12:14] <fdoving> __fn0rd__: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuHiddenFiles
[12:15] <__fn0rd__> thanx
[12:15] <mikel28> i would like to share my inet with an interface on my machine...
[12:15] <mikel28> how do i route the interface to my gw?
[12:16] <fdoving> mikel28: i recommend using 'guidedog'. It's a package in the universe repository.
[12:19] <mikel28> fdoving: i should use ip masquerading right?
[12:20] <mikel28> i got a ppp (Serial link) interface with the ip 192.168.0.20 (in my server, the client 0.10.. should be connected to the inet)
[12:20] <mikel28> i would like to route the interface to my router/gw 192.168.1.1
[12:23] <fdoving> mikel28: install 'guidedog' on the machine connected to the internet. It will guide you through the setup.
[12:26] <mikel28> fdoving: it did not :(
[12:26] <mikel28> i got it installed..
[12:28] <fdoving> mikel28: ok,you should enable routing, and enable ip masquerading.
[12:29] <fdoving> mikel28: then hit apply and ok. then it should just work. You need to set the gateway on the second pc, to the LAN ip, of the pc connected to the internet.
[12:29] <mikel28> fdoving:  i got that exactly now as how ur saying!
[12:30] <mikel28> but http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ipmasq-background2.5.html says that i need to add support for 'proxy arp' on this machine
[12:30] <mikel28> for ppp/slip
[12:31] <fdoving> mikel28: ah.. that's possible. Haven't used ppp/slip much. I'm sure you'll figure it out.
[12:32] <mikel28> fdoving: im getting closer to my goal :D
[12:33] <mikel28> soldering the darn cable costed me more time then when i would have bought a ne2000 isa card (50$ :S)
[12:33] <mikel28> yes my time is valuable
[12:33] <mikel28> :-))
[12:34] <fdoving> nite.
[12:35] <visitor> hey whats goin on everyone???
[12:35] <visitor> anyone wanna chat?
[12:35] <Sir_Brizz> not unless it's about Kubuntu
[12:35] <visitor> isn't this a chat room?
[12:35] <Sir_Brizz> it's a help channel
[12:35] <visitor> ok
[12:36] <visitor> is there chat room in here on a different channel?
[12:36] <Sir_Brizz> dunno
[12:36] <Sir_Brizz> freenode has mostly support channels and stuff
[12:36] <Sir_Brizz> but it depends on what you're looking for
[12:37] <mikel28> visitor: find some friends :')
[12:37] <mikel28> :D
[12:37] <mikel28> he could try #anything
[12:37] <visitor> ohhh u r so fucking funny let me tell ya...
[12:37] <mikel28> or #something, most big irc servers have those chans
[12:37] <visitor> hahaha
[12:37] <LjL> visitor: watch your language please
[12:37] <visitor> ya sure
[12:38] <mikel28> how do i use proxy arp? :')
[12:38] <visitor> how do i look at the other channels on here???
[12:38] <mikel28> i wanne route traffic from a slip interface to my gateway
[12:38] <mikel28> visitor, google for 'irc tutorial'
[12:38] <xcorpion> hola
[12:39] <xcorpion> Alguna sala en espaol
[12:39] <Admiral_Chicago> !es > xcorpion
[12:39] <dom> !ati
[12:39] <visitor> this crap is stupid
[12:39] <xcorpion> soy nuevo
[12:40] <visitor> i dont know how to change to a different channel or room
[12:40] <xcorpion> primera vez que utilizo esto
[12:40] <xcorpion> como entro
[12:40] <Admiral_Chicago> visitor: /join #channel
[12:40] <dom> visitor, you can try doing /list or search http://irc.netsplit.de/
[12:40] <mikel28> visitor: its crap because you dont know how it works, and how to use it
[12:40] <xcorpion> a esas salas que me dicen
[12:40] <mikel28> ?
[12:40] <mikel28> visitor: get lost
[12:40] <mikel28> :D
[12:40] <Admiral_Chicago> xcorpion: /join #nombre
[12:40] <visitor> mike f**k U!
[12:40] <xcorpion> gracias
[12:40] <dom> !mod
[12:41] <nekez> anyone tried crossover office and works package??
[12:41] <flaccid> horray finished website
[12:41] <flaccid> fdoving: you do the kubuntu wiki for edgy upgrade?
[12:42] <Admiral_Chicago> nekez: MS works?
[12:42] <fdoving> visitor: please watch your language. we try to keep this channel family friendly.
[12:42] <visitor> that didn't work for changing the channel thing
[12:42] <fdoving> flaccid: the kubuntuupgrade page, yes.
[12:42] <Admiral_Chicago> well you change the channel to what you want
[12:42] <xcorpion> !ati
[12:42] <Admiral_Chicago> say /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[12:43] <fdoving> xcorpion: the bot is, dead or silent somehow.
[12:43] <dom> what's with the bot?  is it asleep?
[12:44] <flaccid> fdoving: i think you have an  error on step 6
[12:44] <fdoving> flaccid: oh, what error?
[12:44] <gate-mobil> hi
[12:44] <flaccid> fdoving: i think that you need to space the commands out
[12:44] <steel8> hi
[12:44] <flaccid> between the pipes
[12:44] <gate-mobil> how can i change the admin password
[12:44] <flaccid> gate-mobil: what admin account?
[12:45] <fdoving> flaccid: works for me. what is the error you get?
[12:45] <gate-mobil> i logged in as a normal user
[12:45] <Admiral_Chicago> gate-mobil: you mean root?
[12:45] <gate-mobil> for system changes i need a password
[12:45] <gate-mobil> no not root
[12:45] <nekez> omfg
[12:46] <nekez> gate does your acct have sudo privledges??
[12:46] <nekez> to change an accts password
[12:46] <gate-mobil> i think yes
[12:46] <nekez> open terminal and type " passwd "
[12:46] <flaccid> fdoving: i can't remember the actual error, but myself as well as many other people have had to space out the command.
[12:46] <nekez> it asks current pass and for new pass
[12:46] <nekez> but to do things that root needs to do it auto asks for a pass
[12:47] <nekez> which is just the user pass not the root pass
[12:47] <flaccid> fdoving: oh i remember, it returns nothing and just sits there on new line if you don't space out the command
[12:47] <kevman_> I installed edgy and enabled universe and multi verse. But it fails to fetch from the repo " http://us.archive.ubuntu.com edgy/main Packages" and I have a billion broken deps on packages now
[12:47] <xcorpion> alguien que quiera conversar en espaol
[12:47] <nekez> sudo apt-get update
[12:47] <xcorpion> que entre a !es
[12:47] <fdoving> flaccid: are your sure it's because of the spaces? I think it's because of the 'apt-get -u dist-upgrade' i've considered adding a -y.
[12:47] <nekez> eh kubuntu rite
[12:48] <kevman_> Yes
[12:48] <nekez> sigh
[12:48] <dom> gate-mobil, you can also change your password in system preferences, on the "About Me" panel
[12:48] <nekez> i love synaptic
[12:48] <nekez> i cant recommend it highly enough ;p
[12:48] <gate-mobil> okay
[12:48] <gate-mobil> this password is the user password
[12:48] <flaccid> fdoving: well myself as well as a few people have had it fail as is, but then spacing it out worked straight after
[12:48] <gate-mobil> ?
[12:48] <Bubba_Gump> nekez: i'm an Adept freak :D
[12:48] <nekez> heh
[12:48] <kevman_> It doesn't even work from the commandline. Maybe my sources.lst fubared?
[12:48] <flaccid> fdoving: spacing it out just in case won't hurt.
[12:48] <nekez> i cant stand that ;p
[12:48] <nekez> mm
[12:49] <nekez> kevman_ lets find j00 a sources list
[12:49] <nekez> !sources
[12:49] <kevman_> ... slow bot?
[12:49] <fdoving> flaccid: would be nice if you could update the page. I'm on my way to bed, and you're the one with the error.. you know what worked for you.
[12:49] <flaccid> !psd
[12:49] <nekez> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:49] <nekez> make sources there
[12:50] <flaccid> fdoving: i don't know how to update the page. i just tried contacting you as per the wiki entry
[12:50] <flaccid> fdoving: do i register or something
[12:50] <gate-mobil> if i understand you correct; the password that the system ask for is my normal userpassword ?
[12:50] <nekez> correct
[12:50] <gate-mobil> cool
[12:50] <nekez> is that the primary user?
[12:50] <gate-mobil> can i switch it of
[12:50] <nekez> i e the first one you made?
[12:50] <nekez> sure
[12:50] <nekez> you can change it whenever j00 want
[12:50] <kevman_> That and this ipw3945 WLAN nic is going as slow as mollasses loading pages
[12:50] <nekez> and the system autoupdates itself
[12:51] <kevman_> nekez: the source-o-matic here doesn't have edgy
[12:51] <nekez> eh
[12:51] <elknof1> hey hi everybody
[12:51] <fdoving> flaccid: is this https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuUpgrade better?
[12:51] <nekez> lemme think a second.........
[12:51] <elknof1> does anyone knows how to mount an ipod in amarok 1.4??
[12:52] <nekez> ~_~
[12:52] <gate-mobil> i dont want to change .... i want to stop that the system ask ..... and keep the normal password
[12:52] <Admiral_Chicago> elknof1: look for the media devices tab
[12:52] <[Ag0ny] > anybody have issues installing eclipse?
[12:53] <Columcile> Looking for info on installing Sun's Java in 6.10, not having a lot of luck thus far.
[12:53] <nekez> sigh.
[12:53] <kevman_> I can't install ANYTHING. everything has broken deps
[12:54] <kevman_> mplayer, xchat, xine... Nothing.
[12:54] <fdoving> Columcile: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[12:54] <[Ag0ny] > Columcile, sudo apt-get install sun-java5-jdk ?
[12:54] <kevmanLAP> !sources
[12:54] <elknof1> Admiral_Chicago: i've done that...  it just doesn't show up...
[12:54] <kevman_> Oooh, they are the same.
[12:54] <Columcile> [Ag0ny] : Can't find anything from sun in the repository, all repo's enabled
[12:55] <Columcile> fdoving: I'll check that, thanks
[12:55] <Admiral_Chicago> elknof1: what plug in are you using
[12:55] <Admiral_Chicago> also, you might want to check oun gtkpod, that's the one i use
[12:55] <elknof1> xine
[12:56] <toxic_> huhu ;)
[12:56] <Admiral_Chicago> no no use the ipod plug in
[12:56] <elknof1> Admiral_Chicago: no clue about what u are talkin' about
[12:57] <toxic_> im total new with kubuntu ;/
[12:57] <Admiral_Chicago> setting -- configure amarok -- media devices -- plug ins -- Apple iPod Media
[12:57] <flaccid> perfect i think yes, fdoving thanks!
[12:57] <toxic_> how can i install new software with the paket manager?
[12:58] <fdoving> flaccid: good. thanks for the feedback.
[12:58] <nekez> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=265326&highlight=edgy+sources
[12:58] <nekez> whoever needed sources for edgy
[12:58] <nekez> there j00 go
[12:58] <mikel28> toxic, you mean adept right
[12:58] <nekez> yes
[12:58] <Admiral_Chicago> toxic_: look for adpet or check this out
[12:58] <nekez> gtkpod rulz
[12:58] <nekez> works for anything but the cellphone ipods
[12:58] <mikel28> its really simple, you start adept - type in the name of the soft you wanne install...
[12:58] <Admiral_Chicago> adept manage
[12:58] <elknof1> Admiral_Chicago: No new media devices were found. If you feel this is an error, ensure that the DBUS and HAL daemons are running and KDE was built with support for them. You can test this by running "dcop kded mediamanager fullList" in a Konsole window.    it just dont detect it..
[12:58] <mikel28> rightlcick and install...
[12:59] <toxic_> i'm german ;)
[12:59] <toxic_> trying the check out whats adept
[12:59] <Admiral_Chicago> elknof1: have you chekced out gtkpod
[12:59] <Admiral_Chicago> !de > toxic_
[12:59] <toxic_> ah kdesu adept installer ok ;)
[12:59] <Admiral_Chicago> that will launch it correct
[12:59] <toxic_> can you tell me a small software to install? ;)
[01:00] <toxic_> for what i could search for
[01:00] <toxic_> -for
[01:00] <Admiral_Chicago> toxic_: install vilc
[01:00] <Admiral_Chicago> VLC*
[01:00] <toxic_> now we are where my problem begins: i always get "no result"
[01:00] <toxic_> i can search for whatever i want
[01:01] <kevman_> ,,, Man, I miss portage
[01:01] <toxic_> the only thing i can see is KNotes which is already installed
[01:01] <kevman_> apt refuses to install anything
[01:01] <dom> kevman_, how's that?
[01:02] <kevman_> dom: broken dependencies
[01:02] <Hobbsee> hey Admiral_Chicago
[01:02] <toxic_> why can't i see any pakages? ;(
[01:02] <Admiral_Chicago> how is it going?
[01:02] <bLaZeD> and in my messages log i see this http://pastebin.ulteo.us/228 ...im not sure if that is normal...or if it isnt what is causing this?
[01:02] <dom> aptitude should solve all dependancies for you, kevman_.  what's it choking on?
[01:02] <Admiral_Chicago> !repo > toxic_
[01:02] <Zaire> anyone on here know how to use the kubuntu Drupal package?
[01:02] <Admiral_Chicago> look for adding multivers and univers
[01:03] <Admiral_Chicago> universe*
[01:03] <dom> !ati > dom
[01:03] <SperMite> how do i list what kind of cdrom i have in console?
[01:03] <kevman_> liblaunchpad-integration0 libsexy2 tcl8.4 xchat-common
[01:03] <kevman_> It can't get any of those
[01:04] <dom> pastebin the error and let's take a look
[01:05] <elknof1> bye ereyone
[01:05] <kevman_> dom: http://pastebin.com/825371
[01:06] <toxic_> is there a german help channel?
[01:06] <HomerG> I'm getting ready to install kubuntu from the dvd, is jfs similar to reiserfs?
[01:06] <Admiral_Chicago> !de
[01:06] <Ubotwo> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[01:06] <teledyn_> i am having massive problems - i cannot burn CDs with ubuntu.  k3b and nero linux just fry my blanks
[01:07] <Admiral_Chicago> teledyn_: try gnomebaker
[01:07] <toxic_> thx Ubugtu
[01:07] <teledyn_> Admiral_Chicago: i don't think its an app problem.  i think something else is messed up
[01:07] <kevman_> I get this error updating :
[01:08] <kevman_> 99% [4 Packages gzip 0]  [Connecting to security.ubuntu.com]  [Connecting to archive.ubuntu.com] 
[01:08] <kevman_> gzip: stdin: not in gzip format
[01:08] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, i can't help you very much on anything eles, i don't know much about CD programs
[01:10] <dom> kevman_, oh.  so you haven't got a working update.  that's unfortunate. does this behave any differently if you use a more intelligent tool like aptitude or adept?
[01:11] <kevman_> dom: nope
[01:11] <teledyn_> crap.  crap crap crap
[01:13] <kevman_> DId it with the stock sources.lst, too. I'm thinking kubuntu might just be borked.
[01:13] <kevman_> !sources
[01:13] <Ubotwo> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[01:14] <kevman_> !easysource
[01:14] <Ubotwo> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[01:14] <kevman_> blah. All old!
[01:15] <teledyn_> ah!  i think it was because of vmware!
[01:15] <teledyn_> i suspended the VM and this time it burned successfully
[01:16] <teledyn_> or not???
[01:16] <teledyn_> no, it still won't play the cd
[01:17] <kevman_> Its amazing Edgy was releaseed
[01:17] <kevman_> released*
[01:19] <kevman_> Wait... Is there an easy way to disable ipv6 in Edgy?
[01:21] <[Ag0ny] > is there anyway to revert my install back to total defaults?
[01:22] <[Ag0ny] > (without using a CD)
[01:22] <kevman_> Does this sources.lst look normal? http://pastebin.com/825381
[01:26] <dom> kevman_, sure.  you might want to disable the CD rom repository
[01:26] <campbch> OK, i still cant find anything online - if i want to run something at x login, where would i put the commands?
[01:27] <campbch> for example, i want to run beryl-manager, emerald, and kiba-dock, how do i tell it to do those three when i log in rather than having to alt+f2 them in?
[01:27] <dom> campbch, you mean you want something to run when you login?
[01:27] <kevman_> Then why can't I install anything? Why does the MAIN REPO fail?
[01:27] <campbch> as in, you log in, it starts the kicker, loads the wallpaper, etc.
[01:28] <dom> campbch, you can put scripts or links to programs in ~/.kde/Autostart
[01:28] <campbch> ok
[01:29] <dom> if you check the system preferences, there may be something in there explicitly.  otherwise, campbch, the session manager should be set to automatically save your session on logout and restore it on login (e.g. launch any applications that were still running at logout)
[01:29] <campbch> it does to some but not others
[01:30] <campbch> like, beryl will run, but not kiba or emerald (and emerald is beryl's border widget :o you can imagine)
[01:30] <rBlong2us> hi I changed to Ubuntu 'cause there were a few things about Kubuntu that hughly annoyed me. For instance the printer didn't work, with ubuntu outta the box, then the HUGE pop ups from files and when touching the bar below where pretty annoying.
[01:32] <campbch> well, all your pop-ups are belong to mis-gestures? i havent seen that... i must say though, i wish ksynaptics worked :( it moves my cursor
[01:33] <kevman_> SO noone can tell me why kununtu edgy's apt is broken? Are the archives caches somewhere?
[01:33] <kevman_> Becuase they fetch pretty quickly.
[01:34] <Admiral_Chicago> rBlong2us: i switched from Ubuntu because GNOME is hard to use
[01:35] <campbch> :( i flipped a coin. now, i'm hukd on kubuntu
[01:35] <campbch> seriously though, i've got nearly everything working the way i like it
[01:37] <campbch> if i wanted to end a program through the terminal or alt+f2 run menu, what would the command be? it's not halt?
[01:37] <kevman_> killall
[01:38] <kevman_> And if its still there, killall -9 kills it for sure
[01:38] <TheMole> if it's a graphical program use xkill, it'll turn your cursor into a crossbones and just click it.
[01:38] <BluesKaj> I'm trying to upgrade devede from the 2.1 version ...I thought i had already done so but the "about" says its 2.1 ...what gives?
[01:38] <Lam_> and the equivalent of xkill is ctrl+alt+esc for the same crossbones
[01:38] <TheMole> Is it?
[01:39] <Lam_> try it out
[01:39] <TheMole> Not on my edgy box.
[01:39] <Lam_> mine does it
[01:39] <Lam_> oh, unless you don't have the standard windows manager
[01:39] <TheMole> I use kwin.
[01:39] <mattk> hello
[01:40] <Lam_> i have no idea then. mine does it
[01:40] <TheMole> Ahh, just looked, I don't have it assigned in the keyboard shortcuts, maybe I changed it at some point.
[01:40] <rBlong2us> Admiral_Chicago: ubuntu hard.... are you kidding me?
[01:41] <BluesKaj> I DL'd the 2.6 version but it doesn't install ...doesn't "tar xvjf " filename.tarbz2 also install or do I have to sudo aptget the extracted install file as well
[01:42] <Admiral_Chicago> rBlong2us: i hate the GUI, Ubuntu is easy as heck to use
[01:42] <campbch> it says my links are all malformatted.
[01:43] <campbch> what do i need to add? i just made it, named it, and typed the command into link
[01:43] <Lam_> i hated gnome too. i used it for 2 months before switching to kde
[01:43] <campbch> becuase all they are are binaries
[01:43] <Admiral_Chicago> TheMole: KSysGuard can kill processes in GUI
[01:43] <kevman_> Well, An OS that I can install stuff in. Nice
[01:44] <Admiral_Chicago> kevman_: the repo may be down
[01:44] <kevman_> Since Monday?
[01:44] <Lam_> you might need to fix/update your sources.list
[01:44] <Admiral_Chicago> hmm, what source did you use?
[01:44] <dom> really, TheMole?  it is on mine.
[01:45] <dom> oh, sry
[01:45] <dom> behind the conv
[01:45] <Lam_> that's ok. :P
[01:45] <kevman_> Well, I rebooted. But it was ubuntu main
[01:46] <kevman_> Is there an edgy WORKING sources.lst somewhere I can have?
[01:46] <dom> campbch, you're in a terminal in the .kde/Autostart dir?
[01:47] <dom> ln -s `which <kiba-dock>`
[01:47] <rBlong2us> have I made a mistake by picking gnome ?
[01:47] <ruzle_> How do I find the files and the other hard drives that I used in windows?
[01:47] <dom> or just ln -s /full/path/kiba-dock
[01:47] <Admiral_Chicago> rBlong2us: not really, it's jist about your prefernces
[01:47] <delight> since kde 3.5.5 (both dapper/edgy) i have kde thinking on login i have the laptop lid closed ... so when i activate some suspend to ram when lid closed first thing on login is my laptop goes to suspend mode ... after that everything works as expected ... even lid closing ... gnome is working right
[01:48] <dom> ruzle_, if you open Konqueror, you should be able to browse around for it
[01:48] <delight> does somebody know where i could look for that problem ?
[01:48] <Admiral_Chicago> except your in a KDE channel
[01:48] <Admiral_Chicago> delight: iirc that is a known bug
[01:49] <delight> Admiral_Chicago .. is there a workaround too ?
[01:49] <Admiral_Chicago> https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=suspend+to+ram
[01:49] <Admiral_Chicago> not sure
[01:49] <Admiral_Chicago> it's being fixed atm
[01:50] <ruzle_> How do I find the files and the other hard drives that I used in windows?
[01:50] <delight> I will look in to it ... thnx
[01:51] <Admiral_Chicago> ruzle_: you want to mount the drive
[01:51] <Admiral_Chicago> !mount
[01:51] <Ubotwo> Partitioning programs: !GParted or QTParted  -  Formatting partitions: see the manual page for mkfs ("man mkfs")  -  Mounting partitions in Gnome: System -> Administration -> Disks
[01:51] <Admiral_Chicago> look for the NTSF guide
[01:51] <Admiral_Chicago> no no, that's not it
[01:52] <Admiral_Chicago> !ntsf
[01:52] <campbch> is it possible to tell through commands to wait | command before doing command? like, wait 2 | command?
[01:52] <draik> How do I install Kubuntu via CLI? I can't seem to get a GUI when I try to install from the Livecd
[01:52] <Admiral_Chicago> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions
[01:52] <Admiral_Chicago> ruzle_: that's the link you want. bbl
[01:53] <ruzle_> Ok, so what is that !thing ? I just installed this Kubuntu OS :D Feeling kind of stupid now :)
[01:53] <BluesKaj> How doe one insatll a program after extracting the tar.bz2 file ?
[01:53] <TheMole> ruzle_: Was the drive in when you installed kubuntu?
[01:54] <ruzle_> jepp
[01:54] <draik> I need help installing Kubuntu on a new partition. Kubuntu Edgy won't load xorg
[01:54] <ruzle_> I got 4 hd s.. just formatted and installed kubuntu on one of them
[01:54] <draik> Anyone have this issue before?
[01:54] <BluesKaj> Admiral_Chicago, How does one install a program after extracting the tar.bz2 file ?...I've forgotten the commands
[01:54] <TheMole> Open konqueror and goto /media and see if they are listed in there.
[01:54] <dom> draik, as super user or with sudo, do "aptitude install kubuntu-desktop"
[01:55] <draik> dom, issue is that I can't get a GUI
[01:55] <draik> can it be done from the livecd CLI?
[01:55] <ruzle_> It only shows the kubuntu partition
[01:55] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj: what is the extension
[01:55] <TheMole> Yeh you need the link above then.
[01:55] <dom> draik, what do you have, does your system boot to command line or you're trying an install?
[01:55] <Admiral_Chicago> a .deb is sudo dpkg -i <name.deb>
[01:55] <dom> sry, gtg
[01:55] <Admiral_Chicago> make sure to cd to the directory first
[01:56] <draik> Fresh install
[01:56] <ruzle_> ok i will look at it :D
[01:57] <rcourtna> hello.  I've uninstalled my ndiswrapper packages, and rebooted.  In my dmesg log, however, I see that ndiswrapper is still loading.  How do I completely get rid of it
[01:57] <Admiral_Chicago> might want to check out media:\ as well
[01:57] <BluesKaj> Admiral_Chicago, instal.sh
[01:57] <BluesKaj> install.sh
[01:59] <TheMole> ruzle_: Yes, try media :\ also..
[02:00] <ruzle_> ok got the partition stuff downloaded
[02:00] <ruzle_> :)
[02:00] <BluesKaj> Admiral_Chicago, I know how to extract (tar xvjf filename.tar.bz2) , but once that works i forget what the install commands are
[02:01] <ruzle_> In media I got my cdrom
[02:02] <ruzle_> It says on the site that I should run
[02:02] <ruzle_> The script is non-interactive, and usage is simple. Type the following line.
[02:02] <ruzle_> sudo bash diskmounter
[02:03] <ruzle_> Is it in the run kommand that I would write that? And where do I see if i has happend enything?
[02:05] <ruzle_> wohhoo :D:D No I see the partitions! Thanks for the help guys!
[02:05] <crowbar> I just installed juk, but after addeding all my mp3s, juke doesn't play.  the progress bar just doesn't move at all
[02:05] <crowbar> never mind, it just won't play mp3s
[02:06] <crowbar> flac files work
[02:06] <BombTron> doesn't anyone know anything about open source volunteering
[02:06] <BombTron> coding and such
[02:07] <michael__> After a new install what is the default root password?
[02:07] <BombTron> isn't one
[02:07] <BombTron> make one
[02:07] <BombTron> passwd root or some such thing
[02:07] <BombTron> look at man for passwd
[02:08] <Jucato> no
[02:08] <Jucato> you don't have to make a root password
[02:08] <michael__> BombTron: passwd: You may not view or modify password information for root.
[02:08] <Jucato> !sudo | michael__
[02:08] <LjL> !sudo
[02:08] <Ubotwo> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:09] <BombTron> yea I just tried that and got that message
[02:09] <BombTron> I found I had to turn on root login on kde
[02:09] <BombTron> just to hard to do certain things in sudo
[02:09] <Jucato> what's to hard using suod?
[02:09] <Jucato> sudo*
[02:09] <BombTron> it just would not work for copying large files, I don't know why
[02:09] <BombTron> turned on root login and loged in a it worked
[02:10] <BombTron> large amounts of files
[02:10] <Jucato> BombTron: have you even tried launching Konqueror as root?
[02:10] <BombTron> moving partitions
[02:10] <BombTron> yup
[02:10] <BombTron> didn't work
[02:10] <BombTron> but the other guy is having the problem not me
[02:10] <BombTron> help him
[02:10] <brett__> Hello All
[02:11] <firebird619> I want to have Beryl start with KDE. Do I just have to type #!/bin/sh and on the next line type beryl-manager and then save it to ~/.kde/Autostart and make it executable?
[02:11] <michael__> So when I type in "su" and it ask for a password, there is none?
[02:11] <BombTron> um not by default I thinkm
[02:11] <BombTron> think
[02:12] <BombTron> did you give it one
[02:12] <BombTron> it's something particular with ubuntu
[02:12] <ivanoats> when
[02:12] <Jucato> michael__: you don't need to enable root. you can use sudo everytime you need to do administrative stuff
[02:12] <BombTron> all sudo
[02:12] <brett__> For some reason when i watch video the audio and video are not synced... the audio is slow.. anyone know anything that might cause this?
[02:12] <Jucato> !sudo | michael__
[02:12] <BombTron> what is the sudo password don't you enter it at install
[02:12] <LjL> Jucato: won't work
[02:12] <Jucato> LjL: what's wrong? is it buggy?
[02:12] <brett__> !help
[02:12] <Ubotwo> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[02:13] <macconline> hi
[02:13] <LjL> !bot
[02:13] <Ubotwo> This is just a temporary bot. Ubotu is currently unavailable. The only available command syntax is !<factoid>
[02:13] <Jucato> ah krap
[02:13] <Jucato> didn't notice that
[02:13] <macconline> flash player without sound in firefox... why?
[02:13] <macconline> yesterday fine
[02:13] <Jucato> michael__: did you read that page on RootSudo?
[02:13] <BombTron> try your normal password if not I would recommend the ubuntu wiki to find out how to fix your sudo login problem
[02:14] <michael__> BombTron: I know that password, I just don't like the fact that my logon password will also give access to root.
[02:14] <brett__> does anyone know about sound not syncing problems?
[02:14] <BombTron> how do you pop my name in like that
[02:15] <Jucato> michael__: that page explains everything you need/want to know
[02:15] <michael__> Jucato: I am reading it now
[02:15] <Jucato> BombTron: what do you mean "popup"?
[02:15] <draik> Anyone know how to install kubuntu via CLI?
 Bombtron:
[02:15] <BombTron> the bombtron part
[02:15] <ivanoats> after I log into Kubuntu, I get a blank desktop with no panel
[02:16] <Jucato> BombTron: tab completion. Bom[Tab] 
[02:16] <BombTron> ah thanks
[02:16] <draik> Jucato: What do you mean I can't do it using the Desktop CD?
[02:16] <BombTron> Jucato: I wish I could remember the set sudo or root password command but I can't
[02:16] <Jucato> draik: you can't install Kubuntu from the CLI using the Desktop CD
[02:16] <draik> Jucato: Then how do I do it?
[02:16] <Admiral_Chicago> BluesKaj: ./configure && make && sudo make install
[02:17] <brett__> !brett is Brett is a sexy bastard
[02:17] <Admiral_Chicago> ruzle_: i'm glad
[02:17] <brett__> !brett
[02:17] <brett__> damn
[02:17] <BombTron> brett is a fag
[02:17] <Jucato> BombTron: and yet you have no problem remembering 2 separate password? :) j/k
[02:17] <BombTron> they are the same for me
[02:17] <BombTron> LOL
[02:17] <LjL> !botabuse
[02:17] <Ubotwo> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[02:17] <LjL> brett__: ^
[02:17] <michael__> One more question. Is there a graphical interface to mount a secondary hd?
[02:17] <brett__> LjL: yes?
[02:17] <LjL> BombTron: please don't
[02:17] <Jucato> draik: with the Live CD? I don't think you can, if it doesn't boot into GUI
[02:17] <LjL> brett__: see what the bot just said
[02:18] <brett__> LjL: sorry... just wanted to know if it would work
[02:18] <flaccid> !vmware
[02:18] <Ubotwo> VMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository. Instructions to install VMWare Server can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingVMWare
[02:18] <draik> Jucato: Nope. No GUI. not even "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" works
[02:18] <BombTron> LjL: ? is that bad
[02:18] <LjL> BombTron: yes
[02:18] <LjL> !language
[02:18] <Ubotwo> Please watch your language and keep this channel family friendly.
[02:18] <LjL> !guidelines
[02:18] <Ubotwo> The people in this channel are volunteers. Your attitude will determine how fast you are helped. See also http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[02:18] <Jucato> draik: try setting xorg to use vesa, then startx
[02:18] <BombTron> did I set off the bot
[02:18] <draik> Jucato: Ok. I will. BRB
[02:19] <BombTron> Ubotwo: are you a bot
[02:19] <Ubotwo> BombTron: Error: "are" is not a valid command.
[02:19] <LjL> BombTron: obiviously yes
[02:19] <BombTron> LOL
[02:19] <brett__> LjL: is there anywhere that i can get a list of its commands?
[02:20] <BombTron> anyone know about volunteering in open source
[02:20] <BombTron> I want to
[02:20] <LjL> brett__: no. normally you would, but this one is just a temporary bot, since the main one is ill
[02:20] <Jucato> BombTron: what specific project?
[02:20] <brett__> LjL: ill huh :-)
[02:20] <Jucato> BombTron: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate
[02:20] <draik> Jucato: THANK YOU!!! I GOT IT UP AND RUNNING NOW!!! SWEET!!!!
[02:20] <BombTron> Jucato: good question I'm open want to learn
[02:21] <Jucato> lol draik! I think your CAPS got stuck, hehehe :P
[02:21] <BombTron> Jucato: thanks for the link
[02:21] <brett__> Will someone please help me fix my sound problems?
[02:21] <flaccid> is there a free vmware player or a free alternative to be able to run windows emu ?
[02:21] <BombTron> brett__: what is you sound problem
[02:21] <brett__> BombTron: the audio and video are not syncing
[02:21] <BombTron> brett__: in one app
[02:22] <BombTron> ?
[02:22] <brett__> BombTron: yes... in firefox
[02:22] <Jucato> in flash I think
[02:22] <brett__> BombTron: i guess i should try in another app as well?
[02:22] <BombTron> brett__: well yes
[02:22] <brett__> BombTron: i didn't think of that
[02:22] <BombTron> brett__: see if it is system wide
[02:22] <brett__> BombTron: I do not have any videos that i am aware of
[02:23] <BombTron> brett__: i think you got to otherwise it's impossible to figure out
[02:23] <brett__> BombTron: hmm ok let me thinx
[02:23] <BombTron> brett__: b
[02:23] <brett__> BombTron: err thinx
[02:23] <Jucato> Flash is always out of sync for most people
[02:23] <brett__> BombTron: think
[02:23] <BombTron> brett__: no porn?
[02:23] <Jucato> er.. make that some people
[02:24] <brett__> BombTron: lol... i do but all of my video is on my ntfs drive and i am having trouble accesing that
[02:24] <stodge> Hi - can anyone run the printer program from the Settings window? It just crashes on my computer. This is Kubuntu Edgy Eft
[02:24] <BombTron> brett__: ah I just went through that, I had to move it off the ntfs, do ntfs search in package manager
[02:24] <BombTron> to get tools
[02:25] <brett__> ok
[02:25] <Jucato> stodge: doesn't crash for me. tried it yesterday
[02:25] <BombTron> or launch konqueror as root
[02:25] <BombTron> sudo konqueror
[02:25] <stodge> Ok I'll keep trying
[02:25] <flaccid> kdesu konqueror would be better
[02:25] <BombTron> flaccid: kdesu what does it mean
[02:25] <Jucato> !kdesu
[02:25] <Ubotwo> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[02:25] <Jucato> BombTron: ^^^^^
[02:25] <BombTron> flaccid: or how is it differnt
[02:26] <flaccid> run a program with elevated privileges
[02:26] <BombTron> !kdesu
[02:26] <BombTron> hmm
[02:26] <flaccid> above explains
[02:26] <michael__> Is there a graphical interface to mount/umount a partition?
[02:26] <BombTron> flaccid: thanks for the info
[02:26] <Jucato> CLI = use sudo; GUI = use kdesu
[02:26] <flaccid> hehe np
[02:27] <Jucato> BombTron: it might be a reason why you couldn't copy large files using sudo konqueror. *might* be...
[02:27] <draik> Hey, did anyone here read about m$ making their version of firefox?
[02:27] <BombTron> Jucato: yup wouldn't be surprised
[02:27] <Jucato> draik: the hoax? yeah
[02:27] <Jucato> that site has been up for more than a month and it's only now that people noticed...
[02:27] <BombTron> Jucato: it would get some of them but not all
[02:27] <flaccid> URI?
[02:28] <Jucato> michael__: Disks & Filesystems in System Settings (Advanced)
[02:28] <draik> flaccid: http://www.theregister.com
[02:28] <BombTron> !kdesu
[02:28] <Ubotwo> In KDE, use kdesu to run graphical applications with root priveleges when you have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions/config files. For what to use in GNOME, see !gksudo
[02:28] <BombTron> ah ha
[02:28] <Jucato> flaccid: www.msfirefox.com
[02:28] <michael__> Jucato: Thanks
[02:28] <flaccid> ty draik
[02:28] <flaccid> and Jucy
[02:28] <Jucato> Jucy..hehehe
[02:28] <BombTron> sorry first time using irc
[02:28] <flaccid> hehe
[02:28] <BombTron> what else can superbot do
[02:28] <draik> flaccid: np
[02:29] <BombTron> Ubotwo
[02:29] <LjL> nothing
[02:29] <brett__> BombTron: i have mounted them but i do not see any files liste
[02:29] <BombTron> !sudo
[02:29] <Ubotwo> sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for all information.
[02:29] <brett__> BombTron: listed
[02:29] <Jucato> ubotu needs to come back.. ;(
[02:29] <flaccid> hmmm wonder what the binaries you d/l for fake ms firefox are? viruses?
[02:29] <BombTron> brett__: can you change permissions if you are in kdesu konqueror
[02:29] <ivanoats> I'm getting a blank desktop after login.. any ideas? how do I restart X from the command line?
[02:29] <flaccid> wtf is Ubotwo lol
[02:29] <brett__> BombTron: i dont understand?
[02:30] <l337f00l> hi all I just upgraded to Edgy from Dapper and when I try to login into KDE all I get is a tan background and the cursor but thats it
[02:30] <Jucato> uh oh.. who pressed Ctrl+C???
[02:30] <brett__> BombTron: i set permissions using system settings
[02:30] <BombTron> brett__: you might need ntfs packages anyway from adept
[02:30] <flaccid> ivanoats: sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop && sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start
[02:30] <brett__> BombTron: i downloaded them
[02:30] <ivanoats> l337f00l i have the same problem
[02:30] <BombTron> brett__: oh mount the drive
[02:30] <l337f00l> :/
[02:31] <BombTron> brett__: if it is showing nothing with no error message
[02:31] <l337f00l> right now I'm in failsafe GNOME and I'm hating it
[02:31] <brett__> BombTron: and installed them once you said something.... and now i tried to remound
[02:31] <brett__> BombTron: no errors
[02:31] <BombTron> brett__: you can use the system settings -> advanced -> disk and filesystems
[02:31] <brett__> BombTron: i did
[02:31] <BombTron> brett__: hmm
[02:32] <brett__> BombTron: i do not know much about mounting but in there it seemed pretty obvious what to do
[02:32] <BombTron> brett__: can you see a green light next to the drive or partition
[02:32] <BombTron> brett__: is it enabled
[02:32] <brett__> BombTron: no
[02:32] <BombTron> brett__: enable that puppy
[02:33] <brett__> BombTron: how?
[02:33] <BombTron> brett__: admin mode and then right click it I think
[02:33] <brett__> BombTron: thats what i would think too... nope... the only thing i see is enable at start up...
[02:33] <ivanoats> flaccid - thanks, but no love after kdm restart, same problem of blank desktop
[02:33] <BombTron> admin and then the button for enable towards bottom middle
[02:33] <flaccid> ivanoats: check the xorg log
[02:34] <brett__> BombTron: i just checked enable at start up... i guess if i log off and on it will be enabled
[02:34] <flaccid> ivanoats: also to make sure select restart x server from kdm menu then log in and check again
[02:34] <BombTron> brett__: I'm thinking that enable box that is not greyed out when you are in admin mode
[02:34] <BombTron> brett__: do you see a red boarder
[02:34] <ivanoats> flaccid ok, trying to locate xorg log
[02:34] <BombTron> brett__: around the window
[02:35] <shiny> i have a really really bizare keyboard problem - need a kde guru
[02:35] <brett__> BombTron: yup
[02:35] <brett__> BombTron: right click brings up modify and delete
[02:35] <BombTron> brett__: no right click that was my mistake
[02:35] <DarkMageZ> where do i dump the flash9.so for konqueror to pick it up?
[02:35] <BombTron> brett__: highlight it and click that enable button towards bottom
[02:36] <shiny> :-( keyboard doesn't work in kde - - works everywhere else, gnome, fluxbox, windowmaker -- but within kde the key presses do nothing
[02:36] <brett__> BombTron: oh heh....enabled...looking now to see if it worked
[02:36] <ivanoats> flaccid - locate xorg | grep log returns nothing.. do you know where the log is?
[02:37] <Jucato> ivanoats: /var/log/Xorg.0.log I think
[02:37] <brett__> BombTron: Great Success
[02:37] <BombTron> brett__: ha
[02:37] <brett__> BombTron: Man i was getting worried i lost them
[02:37] <BombTron> brett__: LOL
[02:37] <BombTron> brett__: I doubt i can help you with the firefox problem though
[02:39] <brett__> BombTron: ok no sound on video files
[02:40] <BombTron> brett__: hmm have you tried using automatix to get all the codecs
[02:40] <BombTron> brett__: hmm codeces
[02:40] <brett__> BombTron: no... my friend told me to get automatrix....but i cannot find it in adept
[02:41] <BombTron> brett__: have to go to their website to get their package in adept
[02:41] <BombTron> brett__: it tells you how
[02:41] <brett__> BombTron: ok.... automatrix.com?
[02:41] <BombTron> brett__: google automatixs
[02:41] <BombTron> brett__: automatix
[02:41] <BombTron> brett__: sorry
[02:41] <brett__> BombTron: it was obvious what you meant-
[02:42] <Jucato> !automatix
[02:42] <Ubotwo> automatix is a script that tries to install some software, and often fails and breaks systems. We don't provide support for it, and we strongly discourage its use.
[02:42] <brett__> LOL
[02:42] <BombTron> brett__: well I don't know about that, I have it running on two machines
[02:42] <BombTron> brett__: no beaky
[02:42] <BombTron> brett__: breaky
[02:42] <DarkMageZ> it breaks when you goto upgrade :)
[02:43] <Jucato> that's the official Ubuntu statement. if you still want to use it, it's your choice. (just don't blame Ubuntu if something wrong happens later on)
[02:43] <BombTron> !poop
[02:43] <Ubotwo> Sorry, package searching is not available - try http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:43] <BombTron> ran out of poop
[02:43] <Aondo> hmm k3d package seems broken :/
[02:44] <brett__> BombTron: i am having trouble finding it
[02:44] <Jucato> finding what?
[02:45] <BombTron> brett__: http://www.getautomatix.com/
[02:45] <BombTron> evil automatix
[02:45] <brett__> BombTron: thanks
[02:45] <Hunter> Do USB wireless adapter work in Edgy?
[02:47] <brett__> BombTron: automatrix2 i want or is there an automatrix1?
[02:47] <BombTron> brett__: 2
[02:47] <BombTron> if you have edgy
[02:47] <brett__> BombTron: i do
[02:48] <BombTron> Jucato: are you ubuntu worker
[02:48] <Jucato> what do you mean?
[02:48] <BombTron> Jucato: well affiliated with them
[02:49] <Jucato> hm... tricky question. yes and no.
[02:49] <Jucato> er I meant, no (not a worker) and yes (affiliated with them, in a way)
[02:49] <BombTron> Jucato: yes but they don't pay you?
[02:49] <Jucato> of course not.
[02:49] <Jucato> they don't pay anyone to be here
[02:50] <DarkMageZ> hmm, how do i get konqueror to rescan for plugins if plugins isn't listed on the left in settings > konqueror?
[02:50] <Jucato> DarkMageZ: you can add the directory where the plugin is, then scan for plugins
[02:50] <BombTron> Jucato: :)
[02:50] <BombTron> Jucato: well i'm looking to volunteer so I get it
[02:51] <BombTron> Jucato: but looking to do so to boot the resume
[02:51] <BombTron> boost
[02:51] <Jucato> BombTron: people giving help here are volunteers. stuff you do in here don't get into resumes
[02:51] <BluesKaj> ./configure: No such file or directory...what gives ?
[02:51] <BombTron> Jucato: not that but get on with a project
[02:51] <BombTron> Jucato: learn and give and get
[02:51] <Jucato> hm... I wouldn't call what you want to do as "volunteering" though...
[02:52] <Jucato> well, not strictly volunteering
[02:52] <BombTron> Jucato: ?
[02:52] <Jucato> it's called "work"
[02:52] <BombTron> Jucato: coding and such
[02:52] <BombTron> Jucato: well if they don't pay you it's volunteering
[02:52] <BombTron> Jucato: LOL
[02:52] <DarkMageZ> Jucato, there is no plugins listed at all on the left. so how do i add a directory for it to look for plugins in and then tell it to scan for plugins?
[02:52] <Jucato> not really. it's still work. not just the paid kind of work.
[02:53] <BombTron> Jucato: symantics
[02:53] <BombTron> Jucato: :)
[02:53] <BombTron> !symantic
[02:53] <Jucato> DarkMageZ: you add the directory where the plugin is located. you don't add the directory itself. this is on the Scan tab in Configure Konqueror
[02:54] <BluesKaj>  ./configure && make && sudo make install ....doesn't work
[02:54] <Jucato> the plugin usually ends in .so
[02:54] <Jucato> BluesKaj: you have build-essential installed?
[02:54] <BluesKaj> build-essential?...what's that ?
[02:54] <brett__> BombTron: its still installing.... looks like it is going well though
[02:55] <BombTron> Jucato: good
[02:55] <hollywoodb> BluesKaj: "./configure: No such file or directory" means there isn't a configure script in your current directory
[02:55] <BombTron> brett__: good
[02:55] <BluesKaj> what's current directory ?
[02:56] <BluesKaj> home dir ?
[02:56] <purpleposeidon> blueskaj: pwd or ./
[02:56] <hollywoodb> BluesKaj: ... current directory would be the directory you are currently in
[02:56] <BluesKaj> yeah home dir
[02:56] <Jucato> BluesKaj: you have to go into the directory where the configure script is located.
[02:57] <Jucato> usually, it's the directory created by untarring an source code archive (.tar.gz)
[02:57] <BluesKaj> well, you told me what i havent got, now tell me how to get it
[02:57] <brett__> BombTron: ok good it is installed
[02:57] <Jucato> tell us what you're trying to do in the first place
[02:58] <BombTron> brett__: did you open it and install or just the initial instal
[02:58] <bubu1uk> !sk
[02:58] <Ubotwo> Sorry, package searching is not available - try http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:58] <brett__> BombTron: just the initial install
[02:58] <bubu1uk> !sv
[02:58] <Ubotwo> Svensk Ubuntu- och Kubuntusupport hittar du pa #ubuntu-se resp. #kubuntu-se
[02:58] <BombTron> brett__: ah now you got to open it and install it's listed packages
[02:58] <brett__> BombTron: cool
[02:58] <bubu1uk> !sl
[02:58] <Ubotwo> Sorry, package searching is not available - try http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:58] <bubu1uk> hmm
[02:58] <BombTron> !word
[03:00] <BombTron> !wordup
[03:00] <Ubotwo> Sorry, package searching is not available - try http://packages.ubuntu.com
[03:01] <firebird619> Is there a way to load the Kubuntu Live CD into RAM or something to be able to use the CD-RW drive the CD was started in, so that drive is free to burn files to a blank CD.
[03:01] <Jucato> BombTron: don't play with the bot
[03:01] <BombTron> Jucato: oh you are no fun
[03:01] <BombTron> Jucato: what else are computers for
[03:01] <LjL> BombTron, it's even less fun when you're kicked
[03:01] <Jucato> that depends. the bot wasn't made to be played with
[03:01] <LjL> leave the poor bot alone
[03:02] <BombTron> ok I will
[03:02] <Jucato> it's just a sub, anyway. ubotu is more fun...
[03:02] <LjL> Jucato: says you :P
[03:03] <Jucato> LjL: hehe well, ubotu can do more stuff :P
[03:03] <LjL> yeah, search for packages. too tired to find that out
[03:04] <BluesKaj> Jucato, I don't see a "configure script" in the directory
[03:06] <Jucato> BluesKaj: the file should be named "configure"
[03:06] <dennister> g'evening
[03:07] <BombTron> brett__: did that work?
[03:07] <markc> anyone using vmware server ?
[03:08] <dennister> apparently a table in a mysql database is corrupted, or has crashed; anyone have a quickfix? i'm still very inexperienced with this
[03:08] <BluesKaj> nope  Jucato, no such file listed
[03:08] <dennister> markc: not me
[03:10] <fiyawerx> if i install python 2.5, what do I have to do to make that my default 'python' ? Uninstall 2.4?
[03:11] <Jucato> BluesKaj: I'm clueless, as I don't even know what you're trying to compile
[03:11] <BluesKaj> devede26
[03:11] <markc> dennister: mysqlcheck -A (try --help first)
[03:12] <brett__> BombTron: still installing
[03:12] <dennister> i have the --help in front of me :)
[03:12] <BluesKaj> it supposed to be an update but the version i have doesn't update, after extracting the the update
[03:12] <BluesKaj> if you get my drift :)
[03:13] <Jucato> so it's not something you have to compile, then?
[03:13] <Jucato> if it's an update, not a full new version?
[03:13] <BluesKaj> it's really quite presumptuous ...it doesn't tell to dump the old version , keep it or reinstlla the new one
[03:15] <BluesKaj> I tried dumping all the previous versions thinking i could replce it with the new one ...no such luck, the new one won't install
[03:15] <scoates> hi
[03:17] <BluesKaj> Jucato, whats the adept name for build essentials ?
[03:17] <Jucato> build-essential
[03:18] <BluesKaj> not listed in afept
[03:18] <BluesKaj> adept
[03:18] <Jucato> build-essential?
[03:18] <scoates> I've been running kubuntu (actually, Dapper upgraded to Edgy, then kubuntu installed with apt-get) for a couple weeks now. I've noticed that after about a day of uptime, my GUI (especially konsole) gets really sluggish. Updates take a while, CPU pegs at 100% when moving windows, etc. How do I diagnose what's causing this?
[03:18] <flaccid> !utc
[03:18] <Ubotwo> Sorry, package searching is not available - try http://packages.ubuntu.com
[03:18] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[03:18] <Ubotwo> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[03:18] <LjL> !msg the bot
[03:18] <Ubotwo> Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots - Abusing the channel bots will only result in angry ops... ;-)
[03:18] <BluesKaj> !build-essential
[03:18] <Ubotwo> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[03:20] <BluesKaj> ok build-essential installed
[03:23] <fmeissner> Jucato: what was that nvidia driver command you told me?
[03:23] <Jucato> sudo nvidia-xconfig
[03:23] <fmeissner> thanks again
[03:24] <fmeissner> I had to reinstall Kubuntu
[03:24] <Jucato> make sure linux-restricted-modules-generic is installed
[03:24] <fmeissner> yeah
[03:24] <fmeissner> just checking that now
[03:25] <dennister> ok, i really need some help with this mysql server database -- and it's actually pretty quick if someone knows mysql
[03:25] <BluesKaj> gawd this is frustrating...what kind of update doesn't come with an install script or utility
[03:26] <dennister> i bloody well can't figure out the syntax from the manual page
[03:26] <dennister> grrrrr
[03:26] <brett__> BombTron: ok still no sound
[03:27] <fmeissner> it's installed
[03:27] <dennister> brb
[03:28] <scoates> dennister: just ask
[03:30] <fmeissner> Jucato: the command was not found
[03:31] <Jucato> did you install nvidia-glx too?
[03:31] <fmeissner> ohhh...
[03:31] <fmeissner> nope
[03:31] <Jucato> I presumed you did :P
[03:32] <BombTron> brett__: sorry phone call
[03:32] <BombTron> ask around
[03:32] <DekKeD> how do I get Alt+XXX (numbers) to work, eg Alt+64 for @ ?
[03:33] <fmeissner> Jucato: I did the suo nvidia-xconfig
[03:33] <Jucato> fmeissner: restart X
[03:33] <fmeissner> Jucato: should I do the clt+alt+backspace now?
[03:33] <fmeissner> okay
[03:33] <Jucato> and cross your fingers
[03:36] <ne78> How can avoid the launch of /usr/share/python-support/kde-guidance/guidance-power-manager.py ?
[03:36] <Alter-Ego> i have several installations of kubuntu where the scrolling in firefox is really bad
[03:45] <DekKeD> how do I get Alt+XXX (numbers) to work, eg Alt+64 for @ ?
[03:46] <mentok> hi all :)
[03:46] <mentok> anyone know the executable to get flightgear going? thanks :)
[03:49] <Columcile> mentok: Should your passengers be worried?
[03:51] <BluesKaj> damn! ... bash: ./configure: No such file or directory... what is going on here ?
[03:53] <mentok> Columcile: my passengers?  they're a little more than worried ;)
[03:57] <intelikey> what's the command to get the path from /path/file.name ?
[04:02] <tamacracker> Does anyone here know how to mount a media device (mp3 player) onto Amarok?
[04:02] <nyt> hi
[04:02] <BluesKaj> amarok has an mp3 player built in
[04:02] <robotgeek> intelikey: ls -l ?
[04:03] <tamacracker> I have a mp3 player, as in to play mp3s on a device lol
[04:03] <intelikey> hehhe robotgeek you crack me up  :)
[04:03] <tamacracker> hardware mp3 player
[04:03] <robotgeek> tamacracker: open up amarok and click -> Media Device on the left
[04:03] <tamacracker> yeah, and what command do i type?
[04:04] <robotgeek> tamacracker: command? just plug it it, and a window should popup
[04:04] <brian__> having prolems with playing quicktime movies on browser (firefox 2.0)
[04:04] <crazy_bus> How do you take a screenshot in Kubuntu?
[04:05] <tamacracker> this is the thing, im tryin to get my mp3 player, to mount onto amarok like an ipod would
[04:05] <tamacracker> this is my directory for my mp3 player: /media/GIGABEAT
[04:05] <robotgeek> crazy_bus: use print screen button or ksnapshot
[04:06] <crazy_bus> thank you
[04:06] <robotgeek> tamacracker: unmount, open amarok and plug it in
[04:08] <brian__> my firefox just gets a grey screen with mplayer plug-in ... and nothing else
[04:08] <robotgeek> tamacracker: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:Considerations
[04:08] <robotgeek> brian__: you have all codecs?
[04:08] <brian__> yeah, I think
[04:08] <brian__> can i test it somehow?
[04:09] <tamacracker> thanks robot!
[04:09] <robotgeek> brian__: download a quicktime movie and try playing it
[04:10] <robotgeek> Jucato: right now, none of the above
[04:10] <Jucato> robotgeek: heheh :)
[04:10] <brian__> in kaffeine?
[04:10] <robotgeek> brian__: sure
[04:10] <brian__> ok
[04:11] <brian__> got it and it works
[04:12] <tamacracker> ack
[04:12] <tamacracker> robot that doesn't help me
[04:12] <tamacracker> right now it's askin me to enter a mount point
[04:12] <brian__> when i right click and hit play it just says Stopped after a couple of seconds
[04:13] <tamacracker>     /media/GIGABEAT  <- is that the mount point?
[04:13] <robotgeek> tamacracker: yup
[04:14] <tamacracker> i don't know how to do that.
[04:15] <tamacracker> <- noob
[04:15] <tamacracker> <- noobular.
[04:15] <robotgeek> tamacracker: i was thinking it would be a good way to learn c++ :)
[04:16] <tamacracker> how exactly do i make a plug in :\
[04:16] <tamacracker> it would take me weeks just to figure out lo
[04:16] <tamacracker> lol
[04:16] <PsiKloPx> Hey all, noob question here...how can i see which version of kununtu I'm running?
[04:17] <robotgeek> PsiKloPx: lsb_release -a
[04:17] <BluesKaj> anyone install devede26 lately ?
[04:18] <PsiKloPx> thanx!
[04:20] <shiny> anyone willing to help me get keyboard working in kde?
[04:21] <excitatory> shiny: just ask your question, please don't ask to ask.
[04:21] <brett__> I have some Assembly Language HW i need to do. Does anyone know a good (preferably free) text editor that reads assembly tags?
[04:21] <brett__> for linux
[04:22] <shiny> :-) asked earlier...
[04:22] <brett__> heh
[04:22] <shiny> my keybaord works everywehre except kde
[04:22] <brett__> i didn't see
[04:22] <excitatory> me either.
[04:22] <shiny> works in gnome - in gdm - in kdm
[04:22] <shiny> but once i've logged into kde - key presses do nothing?
[04:22] <robotgeek> shiny: crazy.
[04:22] <shiny> ...
[04:22] <shiny> yup
[04:22] <excitatory> brett__: ask the folks in #rockbox  they do some asm coding.
[04:22] <shiny> stumped the sysadmin team here
[04:22] <brett__> excitatory: thanks
[04:23] <shiny> any ideas?
[04:24] <shiny> just some logfiles to check that i may not have thought of?
[04:24] <robotgeek> shiny: can you check the keyboard layout stuff in System -> Regional & Accesilibity
[04:24] <robotgeek> just a guess, might not work :(
[04:24] <shiny> robotgeek: i'm in gnome now (hence i can type).. how do i get to System -> Regional
[04:25] <shiny> kcontrol?
[04:25] <robotgeek> yup
[04:26] <shiny> it's US English
[04:26] <shiny> 104key
[04:27] <excitatory> shiny: perhaps #kde would have an answer.
[04:28] <shiny> :-) might be an idea -- we have a few kde devs on staff but they're unavailable
[04:28] <shiny> all happen immediately after a dist-upgrade
[04:28] <tamacracker> robot
[04:29] <tamacracker> if my application for my mp3 player converts the files from mp3s and wma to SAT does that mean that Amarok will not be able to do the job?
[04:29] <robotgeek> tamacracker: hilite my entire name plase (use tab)
[04:29] <tamacracker> oh cool
[04:29] <Admiral_Chicago> everytime i start X, i have to type kxkb and setxkbmap to be able to type in dvorak
[04:30] <Admiral_Chicago> can someone hlep me change this?
[04:30] <robotgeek> tamacracker: can you convert the file to SAT on linux (i dunno what SAT) is
[04:30] <nyt> i have a problemin automounting my floppy
[04:30] <nyt> pls help me
[04:30] <tamacracker> I don't know :\
[04:30] <Admiral_Chicago> nyt: post your /etc/fstab
[04:31] <robotgeek> tamacracker: hmm, lemme google
[04:31] <tamacracker> understood
[04:31] <robotgeek> tamacracker: doesn't your mp3 player plays mp3?
[04:31] <markc> how do I set a german keyboard automatically without having to type "loadkeys de" all the time
[04:31] <excitatory> brett__: well, have you tried kate?
[04:32] <tamacracker> no... it converts them to SAT so that the mp3 player can play em...
[04:32] <nyt> here is my fstab : /dev/fd0  /media/floppy  msdos rw,user,noauto 0   0
[04:32] <markc> dpkg-reconfigure something ?
[04:32] <excitatory> tamacracker: so it's not an mp3 player then..heh.
[04:32] <robotgeek> markc: you can put a script in .kde/Autostart
[04:32] <nyt> @ admiral chicago : here is my fstab : /dev/fd0  /media/floppy  msdos rw,user,noauto 0   0
[04:32] <robotgeek> Admiral_Chicago: same for you ^^
[04:32] <brett__> excitatory: i am using kate... but i would like to see colors over the tags for easier reading
[04:32] <tamacracker> let oh wait
[04:32] <nyt> :-w
[04:32] <markc> robotgeek: but I need it for shell access... I usually use startx for KDE
[04:32] <tamacracker> Yes it looks like it doesn't have to convert them to .SAT
[04:33] <robotgeek> markc: okay, then put in your .bashrc?
[04:33] <Admiral_Chicago> robotgeek: i have zero script experience but i assume i can have it run in the terminal or something
[04:33] <nyt> @ admiral chicago : here is my fstab : /dev/fd0  /media/floppy  msdos rw,user,noauto 0   0
[04:34] <robotgeek> Admiral_Chicago: is kxxb interactive?
[04:35] <markc> robotgeek: that would work but I was hoping there was a way to configure the basic debian bootup procedure to do it
[04:35] <excitatory> brett__: um.. in kate, look at Tools, Highlighting
[04:35] <robotgeek> markc: add a cron job for @reboot, though i am not sure if that runs it at shutdown or startup
[04:35] <brett__> excitatory: oh cool
[04:35] <brett__> excitatory: thanks
[04:35] <nyt> here is my fstab : /dev/fd0  /media/floppy  msdos rw,user,noauto 0   0
[04:36] <robotgeek> nyt: remove the noauto
[04:36] <nyt> can you please help me to automount my floppy
[04:36] <Admiral_Chicago> i have no idea
[04:36] <nyt> here is my fstab : /dev/fd0  /media/floppy  msdos rw,user 0   0  <<this ?
[04:36] <robotgeek> Admiral_Chicago: i mean, is it a gui app or a keyboard app?
[04:36] <nyt> ok i'll edit my fstab
[04:36] <Admiral_Chicago> nyt: yes that's right
[04:37] <Admiral_Chicago> robotgeek: i run it in konsole
[04:37] <nyt> wait on the file type ?
[04:37] <nyt> can i change it to auto ?
[04:38] <Admiral_Chicago> if i go to system settings -- regional and language --  keyboard layout everytihng is blank
[04:38] <nyt> msdos i'll change to auto
[04:38] <dennister> gues what ppls? i got it, i got it, i got it....yahoo! for the third time today!
[04:39] <dennister> fixed the stb, then the mythconverg database, and for the first time:  <drumroll> live audio and video feeds from my tuner :)
[04:39] <BluesKaj> i wish some of your luck rubbed off on me , dennister ...these guys are ignoring me
[04:39] <Admiral_Chicago> nyt: no i mean give me a sec
[04:39] <robotgeek> Admiral_Chicago: moment
[04:39] <robotgeek> dennister: awesome!
[04:39] <nyt> oh ok
[04:39] <dennister> <--this noob likes to crow when she feels so proud of herself
[04:39] <Admiral_Chicago> i'm all over these channels
[04:40] <dennister> but what a sense of acomplishment :)
[04:40] <robotgeek> how do i echo a newspace
[04:40] <BluesKaj> a simple request that nobody cares to answer
[04:40] <dennister> brb
[04:40] <dennister> BluesKaj: will do my best in a bit, i'm just limited
[04:40] <pacman> anyone have the link to flash 9 for linux?
[04:40] <intelikey> BluesKaj what's it ????
[04:40] <dennister> sometimes i don't answer because i know so little
[04:41] <nyt> i change it but
[04:41] <robotgeek> Admiral_Chicago: cd .kde/Autostart/ && echo -e "kxxb \nsetxkbmap" > keyboard.sh && chmod +x keyboard.sh
[04:41] <robotgeek> just paste that in a terminal :)
[04:41] <nyt> not automount:(
[04:41] <nyt> do i still need to umount floppy
[04:41] <nyt> every i'll other floppy ?
[04:41] <Admiral_Chicago> robotgeek: don't you mean ~/.kde?
[04:41] <robotgeek> Admiral_Chicago: yup
[04:41] <Admiral_Chicago> nyt: hold on a sec while i do some research
[04:42] <BluesKaj> I'm trying to upgrade to devede2.6 from the waht seems to be 2.1 , but he config script isn't in the extracted file so im stuck with old 2.1
[04:42] <BluesKaj> dennister ...read the above
[04:43] <dennister> problem for me is i've never heard of devede...so i can't help
[04:43] <robotgeek> same here
[04:43] <BluesKaj> it's a tar.bz2 extracted file
[04:43] <robotgeek> !compile | BluesKaj
[04:43] <Ubotwo> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[04:44] <dennister> an app? what category of app?
[04:44] <Healot> anyone compressed ubuntu ISO with 7-zip ultra high compression, yet? the ratio
[04:44] <BluesKaj> media
[04:45] <aratasam> Algum do brazil???
[04:45] <aratasam> Any from Brazil???
[04:46] <Healot> !br
[04:46] <campbch> !libdvdcss
[04:46] <Ubotwo> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[04:46] <Ubotwo> For playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss" can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[04:46] <Admiral_Chicago> nyt: /dev/fd0 /media/floppy auto rw,noauto,user,sync 0 0
[04:46] <dennister> media can refer to many different things...a movie, a multimedia app for playing music films, ...
[04:46] <dennister> !devede
[04:46] <Ubotwo> Sorry, package searching is not available - try http://packages.ubuntu.com
[04:46] <intelikey> what's the command to get the path from /path/file.name ?
[04:46] <nyt> wow thanks!
[04:46] <nyt> admiral thanks!
[04:46] <robotgeek> intelikey: oh okay, sec
[04:46] <nyt> ;)
[04:47] <Admiral_Chicago> nyt: i'd reboot to make sure it worked
[04:47] <Healot> intelikey: something like NT CMD %~ni?
[04:47] <aratasam> Thanx!!
[04:47] <robotgeek> intelikey: i only know in python
[04:48] <PsiKloPx> where can I find a list of konsole commands (more in depth than the handbook)
[04:48] <intelikey> Healot is there not a counterpart to basename ?
[04:49] <dennister> BluesKaj: now that i know what it is, have u checked the mid5sum of ur downloaded file?
[04:49] <Jucato> intelikey: wouldn't you have more luck with those questions in #bash?
[04:49] <robotgeek> intelikey: dirname
[04:49] <Healot> python function. robotgeek?
[04:50] <robotgeek> Healot: nevermind, i was lazy :)
[04:50] <robotgeek> intelikey: found it on wikipedia
[04:50] <Healot> %~pi in NT CMD i think... if only i know the bash equivalent
[04:50] <Ubotwo> Healot: Error: "~pi" is not a valid command.
[04:50] <Healot> heh "%" is a bot-command here?
[04:50] <intelikey> robotgeek ty
[04:51] <BluesKaj> dennister, it works but it is still in the old version altho the file i"m using is in the upgrade extracted file ...understand?
[04:51] <intelikey> %stats
[04:51] <Ubotwo> intelikey: I have 1 registered users with 0 registered hostmasks; 1 owner and 0 admins.
[04:52] <Healot> oho i get it
[04:52] <dennister> BluesKaj: yes, i understand, and you said a file was missing in, so u can't upgrade it
[04:52] <BluesKaj> dennister, I'm doing the  ./configure && make && sudo make install
[04:52] <dennister> i was struggling with the same kind of stuff last night...had to give up
[04:53] <BluesKaj> and i'm getting this output : bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
[04:53] <robotgeek> BluesKaj: did you even read the page i sent you?
[04:53] <dennister> if i were you 'd just purge the old version and then download/install a whole copy of the newer version instead of an upgrade version
[04:53] <intelikey> BluesKaj and ls    shows a  configure file ?
[04:55] <intelikey> Jucato what i was asking was linux specific not bash specific.   although there may be a bash way of doing that also.
[04:55] <Jucato> ah
[04:55] <intelikey> and i asked in ##linux
[04:55] <intelikey> no reply ;/
[04:55] <BluesKaj> how can one upgrade a file but there is no install script in the new version
[04:56] <intelikey> it was one of those thing that are so obvious you miss it.   like "if it had of been a snake it would have bit you"
[04:56] <BluesKaj> autoconfog din't work either
[04:57] <intelikey> BluesKaj  is there a makefile
[04:57] <robotgeek> intelikey: it did not strike me until u said basename (that i have used)
[04:58] <intelikey> robotgeek i knew it was real simple just couldn't think of it....    (i'm gonna start blaming that on age in a few years)
[04:58] <BluesKaj> install.sh, install
[04:58] <robotgeek> hey Tonio_
[04:58] <intelikey> so ./install
[05:00] <Tonio_> hi robotgeek :)
[05:00] <markc> robotgeek: I'm  baaaack :-)
[05:01] <robotgeek> markc: works?
[05:01] <markc> robotgeek: yes, the solution (for me) was to simply select "host-only" instead of NAT/bridge
[05:01] <markc> doh
[05:01] <BluesKaj> ~/devede26$ ./install    is stalled , not doing anything ...what next?
[05:01] <brett__> Hey I am having trouble getting 3d graphic games to work on my machine can someone help me trouble shoot it please?
[05:01] <brett__> !ati
[05:01] <Ubotwo> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:02] <intelikey> try the .sh one.
[05:02] <markc> robotgeek: a typical iptables masquerade on the host gets me access to the outside world
[05:02] <robotgeek> markc: you are going way over my head :)
[05:03] <intelikey> BluesKaj seeing that you failed to answer both my quarries about your problem  it's hard for me to guess what you need to do....    sould i say    foo(foo & foo) ;foo    ???
[05:04] <BluesKaj> nothing happened...~/devede26$ ./install    is stalled , not doing anything
[05:04] <markc> robotgeek: the host and guest can ping each other on a private 192.168.0.0/255 net so on the host side I just used "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE" and I can ping the outside world from within the vmware guest OS (that ispconfig virtual application)
[05:04] <intelikey> that's a joke.    it's a fork bomb.  don't run it.
[05:05] <BluesKaj> intelikey,  nothing happened...~/devede26$ ./install    is stalled , not doing anything
[05:05] <ubuntu> is there an easy way to make a boot floppy from a live kubuntu cd?
[05:05] <intelikey> yeah i saw that three times BluesKaj    what you don't know where ^C is ???
[05:05] <brett__> can someone help me with the graphics problem pls?
[05:05] <intelikey> [control] +C
[05:07] <intelikey> !ask
[05:07] <Ubotwo> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:07] <BluesKaj> ^C ?
[05:07] <intelikey> [control] +C
[05:07] <brett__> I am attempting to play a 3d game called tremulous
[05:07] <brett__> the game either crashes before loading or loads but lags so bad the mouse barely moves
[05:08] <campbch> :'( anyone here know how to get scim working? it's always a pain, and i can never remember
[05:08] <brett__> depending on my computers current mood.
[05:08] <campbch> !skim
[05:08] <Ubotwo> Sorry, package searching is not available - try http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:08] <campbch> !scim
[05:08] <Ubotwo> Chinese, Japanese, Korean Language input. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SCIM
[05:08] <brett__> can someone help we trouble shoot it pls
[05:08] <campbch> humm...
[05:08] <BluesKaj> intelikey, nothing happens with [control] +C
[05:08] <intelikey> killall install
[05:09] <intelikey> konsole has tabs or you can open other terminals   there are multi-consoles   you can find a place to type that.
[05:10] <campbch> ok, there is very very little information on the wiki for scim, does anyone know how to set it up?
[05:11] <ubuntu> is there an easy way to make a boot floppy from a live kubuntu cd?
[05:11] <campbch> it has something to do with xorg, one time, but...
[05:11] <intelikey> brett__ you can also ask in #ubuntu seeing that no one in here can help.
[05:11] <campbch> !floppy
[05:11] <Ubotwo> To mount floppy disks, see here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MakeFloppyDriveAvailableToEveryone
[05:11] <brett__> intelikey: thanks
[05:11] <campbch> hmm
[05:12] <ubuntu> i can mount the damn floppy in more than one way.  how do i make it bootable?
[05:13] <intelikey> ubuntu not sure about the live CD but yes you can make a grub floppy or a lilo floppy or a raw linux boot disk   i sujest one of the first two.
[05:13] <intelikey> ubuntu i'd have to google for a howto  you can do that as good as i.
[05:14] <ubuntu> i've done that, and can't find anything except how to make a floppy from a system that already has lilo or grub
[05:15] <nyt> i'm here again
[05:15] <intelikey> for grub is something like running grub and issuing a couple commands in the grub shell.    i don't use grub...    but ubuntu does.   grub is on the live iirc
[05:16] <Zaire> !phpbb2
[05:16] <Ubotwo> Sorry, package searching is not available - try http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:16] <Zaire> !phpbb
[05:17] <Zaire> anyone know what the easy setup package is for phpbb2 I seem to have forgotten lol
[05:17] <intelikey> hmmmm  ubuntu maybe install    grub-disk - GRUB bootable disk image  ?
[05:18] <Zaire> ?
[05:18] <intelikey> Zaire dapper returns.  phpbb2 - A fully featured and skinnable flat (non-threaded) webforum
[05:19] <intelikey> phpbb2-conf-mysql - Automatic configurator for phpbb2 on MySQL database
[05:19] <intelikey> phpbb2-languages - phpBB2 additional languages
[05:19] <Zaire> thats the one
[05:20] <intelikey> i only have dapper and hoary  so don't ask me about edgy
[05:20] <Zaire> not gonna edgy need more work
[05:21] <Zaire> is there a package like that phpbb2-conf-mysql for drupal?
[05:21] <intelikey> yeah maybe the deer puppy will be better
[05:21] <IA-Outdoors> hey what does it mean when I run adept installer and some of the options are grayed out?
[05:21] <IA-Outdoors> e.g. firefox, thunderbird, etc
[05:21] <IA-Outdoors> it's killing me
[05:22] <Zaire> is there a package like that phpbb2-conf-mysql for drupal?
[05:22] <intelikey> Zaire all i see is. drupal - fully-featured content management/discussion engine
[05:22] <Zaire> hmmm
[05:22] <intelikey> also two theems  nothing else
[05:23] <Zaire> its a web forum but I figured I would try the apt repo as the manual would be extremely difficult to setup
[05:23] <robotgeek> intelikey: maybe they are already installed?
[05:23] <Zaire> !drupal
[05:23] <robotgeek> err, IA-Outdoors ^^
[05:23] <Ubotwo> Sorry, package searching is not available - try http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:23] <intelikey> robotgeek they ?
[05:23] <robotgeek> intelikey: tab complete error
[05:23] <scorp007> what's the best chm reader for kde?
[05:23] <scorp007> or linux in general
[05:23] <nyt> thanks! admiral chicago!
[05:23] <intelikey> k
[05:23] <robotgeek> scorp007: kchm?
[05:23] <nyt> IT WORKS!
[05:23] <scorp007> ah ok
[05:23] <nyt> YEEPEE!
[05:24] <IA-Outdoors> is that "package seaching not available" a temporary thing?
[05:24] <intelikey> IA-Outdoors it is
[05:24] <IA-Outdoors> ah, k, setting up a new laptop for a friend and I was like "WTF"
[05:24] <IA-Outdoors> i can wait
[05:25] <intelikey> IA-Outdoors you can search locally     apt-cache search 'blah'
[05:25] <Zaire> so what is it about kubuntu not liking dual booting....Ive done it with ubuntu and it worked but kubuntu always frags my winblows partition
[05:25] <intelikey> or in adept
[05:25] <IA-Outdoors> hrm
[05:25] <IA-Outdoors> k
[05:26] <intelikey> Zaire idk.  they are both the same at that level   </shrugs>
[05:27] <intelikey> same installer same base system same grub ....
[05:27] <Zaire> thats what I thought but one seems to like dual boot and other doesn't :S
[05:27] <Dr_willis> Ive never had any issues.
[05:27] <Dr_willis> compare the grub's menu/config files perhaps?
[05:27] <robotgeek> Zaire: if so, install ubuntu and then install kubuntu over it :)
[05:28] <intelikey> or actually i should say  same operating system  same boot manager and same installer script
[05:28] <Dr_willis> i always install kubuntu-desktop and xubuntu-desktop and so on :)
[05:28] <Zaire> well thing is it installs alright shows the windows boot in the boot loader but when I try to load XP it almost instantly hits blue screen of death
[05:28] <robotgeek> Dr_willis: do you know if xfce ppl have got more than 10 keyboard shortcuts in yet?
[05:29] <Dr_willis> robotgeek,  never noticed. i dont use it that much. I just like a few of the apps it has.. and its good for my vnc sessions. :)
[05:29] <intelikey> Zaire hmmm that is out of bounds....
[05:29] <Dr_willis> I find Linux and windows works nicer together if each has its own HD. :)
[05:29] <Zaire> well its like it causes a critical error that just for whatever reason halts XP in its tracks
[05:30] <Zaire> I can see that being true
[05:30] <Dr_willis> but i do find it odd that grub could some how be affecting windows.. Unless thers some swapong of the drives going on. or other grub tricks.
[05:30] <intelikey> Dr_willis i have found that linux works nicer without windows bothering it.... :)
[05:30] <Dr_willis> I can hit F11 on my boot/bios and just tell it to boot the windows hd. no need for grub to be on windows hd mbr. heh.
[05:31] <rr72> how do i update to feisty?
[05:31] <Zaire> I have to with other distros no prob with dual boot but then kubuntu...go figure I seem to be a glitch magnet
[05:31] <Dr_willis> rr72,  wow you do like living on the edge.
[05:31] <intelikey> rr72 ah #ubuntu+1
[05:32] <rr72> i know you intelikey
[05:32] <intelikey> yep
[05:32] <intelikey> how are you ?
[05:32] <rr72> i already changed my sources file and am doing dist-upgrade, what do i have to do after that?
[05:32] <rr72> and it was a fresh edgy instalation
[05:32] <rr72> intelikey~ sick of school
[05:32] <Zaire> wait for it to crash and hope in process that it doesnt lol
[05:32] <zerozero_> has anyone upgraded to edgy?
[05:32] <rr72> edgy? that was a lopng time ago
[05:33] <intelikey> if there are enough files in the repos to support it   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:33] <rr72> im doing that right now intelikey
[05:33] <Zaire> lol edgy just released recently
[05:33] <intelikey> last month
[05:33] <rr72> intelikey~ what do i do after dist-upgrade?
[05:34] <intelikey> that's all
[05:34] <Dani> Hello all
[05:34] <Dani> has anybody installed kubuntu on Dell XPS
[05:34] <robotgeek> me can no afford :)
[05:34] <Dr_willis> isent there a varity of machines that are Dell XPS's ?      thats their name for their high end gaming line isent it?
[05:35] <Dani> i just want be sure that my wireless card will be compatbile before i install sorry i have dell laptop XPS
[05:35] <Dani> XPS the first one not the XPS 2
[05:36] <robotgeek> Dani: do you know which wireless card?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> you refering to "NX" intelikey ?
[05:44] <io_> Hey I'm trying to get enlightenment 17 installed, and I'm having a really hard time.  It seems as though some things are installed, while others are not (enlightenment binary)
[05:44] <intelikey> and then the others returned....
[05:44] <otep> where is package manager?
[05:44] <Dr_willis> !adept
[05:44] <Ubotwo> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[05:44] <Dr_willis> !apt
[05:44] <Ubotwo> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[05:44] <otep> ah ok
[05:44] <intelikey> Dr_willis yup that's it.
[05:44] <Dr_willis> otep,  time to learn how to use apt and adept
[05:44] <otep> ok
[05:45] <Dr_willis> intelikey,  theres not a freenx windows server yet - i think.
[05:45] <otep> ;) thanks!
[05:45] <Dr_willis> freenx  (and nx) i hear are best for Linux to Linux sharing.
[05:45] <intelikey> johey:  well i hear all kinds of things in here.
[05:45] <intelikey> ah thats  oh;
[05:45] <intelikey> stupid completion char.
[05:46] <johey> intelikey: You do? :D
[05:47] <intelikey> oh; that was just an oh; that completed to your nick... sorry.
[05:47] <Dr_willis> I tend to use vnc t have hidden 'desktops' in the background. :)
[05:47] <Dr_willis> i did have a vncserver set up once where i just vncviewer machinesip:port and it would auto spawn a vnc session and show me the KDM login screen.
[05:48] <intelikey> yeah kubuntu does that in a gui sort of way i think.
[05:48] <i\o> How can I fix e17 in adept?  When I try to install it, it says I have a broken package.
[05:48] <intelikey> !e17
[05:48] <Ubotwo> Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.
[05:49] <i\o> intelikey, .. and that doesn't help me much
[05:49] <intelikey> i\o you a developer tester or just like to run beta software ?
[05:50] <i\o> intelikey, that doesn't answer my question
[05:50] <intelikey> didn't answer mine either...     sudo apt-get install -f
[05:51] <i\o> intelikey, hrm.. didn't do anything.  I just really liked e17 last I tried it.
[05:52] <intelikey> if  sudo apt-get install -f   didn't do anything there is no "broken package installed"  but if you have a deb of e17 and it says it's broken  you'll have to take that to someone else.
[05:53] <intelikey> i take that back.    i should say if sudo works and *
[05:53] <i\o> *?
[05:54] <intelikey> * == matches everything.    as in the above statement.
[05:54] <intelikey> you want the lon version ?
[05:55] <intelikey> if sudo works and if  sudo apt-get install -f   didn't do anything there is no "broken package installed"  but if you have a deb of e17 and it says it's broken  you'll have to take that to someone else. <--- long version.
[05:55] <i\o> haha
[05:55] <i\o> ah ok
[05:56] <otep> how to install flash ?
[05:57] <intelikey> !flash.
[05:57] <Ubotwo> Sorry, package searching is not available - try http://packages.ubuntu.com
[05:57] <otep> everytime i open website with flash
[05:57] <Dr_willis> Ok... what happened to the bot.
[05:57] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:57] <otep> there's automatic install of flash
[05:57] <Zaire> looks like it broked lol
[05:58] <otep> i install flash :(
[05:58] <otep> then
[05:58] <Dr_willis> otep,  the auto-install wont work
[05:58] <Zaire> so anyone here ever used slackware?
[05:58] <otep> so what will i do?
[05:58] <Dr_willis> the ubuntu/kubuntu wiki/forims have details on how to isntall flash
[05:58] <otep> pls help
[05:58] <Dr_willis> when in doubt CHECK the forums and wikis.
[05:59] <Dr_willis> i just download and install th flash 9 beta myself. :)
[05:59] <Dr_willis> so far its worked good for me
[05:59] <intelikey> well this net split is a good time for me to disolve into a bed ....
[05:59] <otep> the ubuntu/kubuntu wiki/forims have details on how to isntall flash  <<where to find this ?
[06:00] <Dr_willis> google.com and search for kubuntu wiki or kubuntu forums
[06:00] <Dr_willis> or look in the TOPIC
[06:00] <Dr_willis>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
[06:00] <otep> oh ok! dr willis ;) thanks again
[06:05] <otep> i downloaded standalone player for linux
[06:06] <otep> http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html <<here's
[06:06] <otep> what's next?
[06:06] <Jucato> otep: hi
[06:06] <bimberi> !flash9
[06:06] <Ubotwo> Flash player 9 beta has been released. You can download it here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for edgy)  -  Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[06:07] <otep> hello jucato
[06:08] <Healot> with Adobe takeover
[06:09] <Healot> macromedia's stuff development seems faster :)
[06:10] <otep> after i download flash
[06:10] <otep> what next?
[06:10] <otep> what's next
[06:10] <Healot> extract and copy the .so file to mozilla/firefox plugin directory
[06:10] <Healot> well, read the text file supplied...
[06:12] <Homer> Gregarious Goat ?
[06:12] <Homer> Oct 2007 release?
[06:12] <Dr_willis> or set up the repos.. so you can apt-get install the flash stuff. :)
[06:13] <Dr_willis> Homer,  what kind of answer are you expecting?
[06:14] <pop_> I'm having trouble getting my Compaq Armada 7400 (Read: OLD) sound to work, anyone know how to fix this?
[06:14] <pop_> Soundcard is ESS 1879
[06:15] <Dr_willis> The various Linux on Laptops sites, and ubunt/kubuntu laptop forums    are proberly a good place to start.
[06:15] <Dr_willis> since you know the chipset. check out the alsa homepage/forums for that - may bee a good lead also.
[06:15] <Dr_willis> how old is old? 3 yrs? 10 yrs?
[06:16] <pop_> P2 ^_~
[06:16] <Dr_willis> my P1 100 - had working sound. :)
[06:16] <pop_> I'm jealous =p
[06:16] <Dr_willis> i should of kept that thing... heh
[06:17] <pop_> got everything else running beautifully, ethernet, wireless card, but sound is evading me.
[06:17] <Dr_willis> wife sold it to her relatives as a spare pc.. It was barely worth keeping. heh
[06:17] <T3hWiz0rd> anyone have a fix for the kde power manager bug in 3.5.5 yet?
[06:17] <Zaire> whats the command to find out the version of a package?
[06:18] <beefsprocket> Zaire: apt-cache show package-name
[06:19] <Zaire> k thanks
[06:19] <beefsprocket> np
[06:23] <avatar___> Hi guys :)
[06:24] <avatar`> ;-)
[06:24] <avatar`> when i press my "multimedia"-button amorok starts, where do i reconfigure it to startsomething else?
[06:24] <avatar`> (running a laptop) :)
[06:24] <avatar`> if it matters to know.
[06:26] <Zaire> apparently the drupal package for dapper is 2 years out of date
[06:26] <tamacracker> Will anyone recommend a good Email client?
[06:26] <tamacracker> I'm gettin bored of hotmail... and I think I wanna use the one that is for kubuntu
[06:27] <emonkey> tamacracker, kmail which is part of kontact
[06:27] <Zaire> anyone know of a good up to date source repo for drupal?
[06:28] <flaccid> how to turn of UTC?
[06:28] <flaccid> !utc
[06:28] <Ubotwo> Sorry, package searching is not available - try http://packages.ubuntu.com
[06:28] <BluesKaj> !repositories
[06:28] <Ubotwo> The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See also !EasySource
[06:28] <avatar`> tamacracker: sylpheed is a very good client
[06:28] <flaccid> sorry turn off utc
[06:28] <Zaire> !drupal
[06:28] <noiesmo> hey all looking for an application to track a users movements on system for both keystrokes and websites etc
[06:28] <Zaire> !repos
[06:28] <tamacracker> avatar is it realiable and simple to use?
[06:29] <avatar`> tamacracker: try sylpheed-claws, i recommend that alot. and when i used it, it was simpled and reliable.
[06:29] <tamacracker> ok, ill check it out :D
[06:30] <avatar`> tamacracker: i dont do mail over pop3 anymore, but used it some years ago..
[06:30] <avatar`> tamacracker: by the years it must have been even better.
[06:30] <avatar`> tho i cant see what could make it better when it allready were complete.
[06:30] <avatar`> very realiable and very simple to use.
[06:31] <T3hWiz0rd> what wireless cards are actually known to work with linux without any major problems?
[06:31] <T3hWiz0rd> I've got a computer addition coming soon that  Iwant to store in a part of my house that would require it to go wifi
[06:31] <avatar`> T3hWiz0rd: i have an Intel-card that works.
[06:31] <beefsprocket> T3hWiz0rd: atheros are good
[06:31] <T3hWiz0rd> what about linksys chips?
[06:31] <T3hWiz0rd> linksys cards*
[06:31] <avatar`> well. brb
[06:32] <tamacracker> is there any flaws with pop3?
[06:32] <tamacracker> compared to yahoo mail or hotmail etc..
[06:32] <BluesKaj> why don't the repositories carry the latest versions of programs ...I know that devede2.6 is available thru a tarball, but on adept the version is a much older 2.1
[06:33] <beefsprocket> T3hWiz0rd: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/ is your one stop site for wireless adapters and linux
[06:33] <Jucato> hotmail, yahoo, gmail == email service; email client = kmail, evolution, thunderbird, etc.
[06:33] <Jucato> pop3 != email service/email client
[06:34] <T3hWiz0rd> what chipset do linksys typically use?
[06:34] <BluesKaj> the tarball is missing an install script or some other essential utilty that prevents me from installing the latest version!
[06:34] <beefsprocket> T3hWiz0rd: an unsupported one
[06:34] <tamacracker> i would assume that pop3 is better... or am I wrong?
[06:34] <T3hWiz0rd> :-(
[06:34] <T3hWiz0rd> but I like linksys
[06:34] <T3hWiz0rd> that sucsk.
[06:34] <BluesKaj> pop3 works for me in thunderbird
[06:34] <Jucato> tamacracker: pop3 isn't an e-mail service like yahoo or hotmail
[06:35] <tamacracker> im just tired of having to log in and check my email through a website.
[06:35] <tamacracker> jucato
[06:35] <BluesKaj> thunderbird !
[06:35] <Jucato> tamacracker: hotmail doesn't offer POP3 for it's free versions
[06:35] <beefsprocket> T3hWiz0rd: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_part.php?brandname=D-Link
[06:35] <tamacracker> right...
[06:35] <Jucato> neither does yahoo.
[06:35] <BluesKaj> !thunderbird
[06:35] <Ubotwo> a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[06:35] <tamacracker> but can i setup a new account with kmail for example
[06:35] <beefsprocket> T3hWiz0rd: go with prism-gt or atheros
[06:35] <tamacracker> like danny@kmail.com
[06:35] <tamacracker> ?
[06:35] <Jucato> no
[06:35] <Jucato> kmail is not an e-mail service
[06:36] <tamacracker> it just recieves from an email service?
[06:36] <Jucato> kmail is an e-mail client. a software. a program
[06:36] <Jucato> yes
[06:36] <tamacracker> can it receive from hotmail?
[06:36] <tamacracker> or only from like isp email accounts?
[06:36] <Jucato> with a bit of word, and 3rd party apps, yes. but not directly (like Gmail)
[06:36] <BluesKaj> Jucato, why are edgy repos offering up older versions of some programs than dapper did ?
[06:37] <Jucato> BluesKaj: depends on whether the new version of the app made it before the freeze phase
[06:37] <tamacracker> so am I better off with gmail then?
[06:37] <Jucato> if it didn't, the version remains the same
[06:38] <Jucato> tamacracker: depends. I'm not familiar with getting hotmail or yahoo to work with kmail/thunderbird/evolution. but it has been done and it's possible
[06:38] <Zaire> lol when the mundane e-mail services are not working out for you thats the time to buy a domain and start your own server lol
[06:38] <tamacracker> i just don't trust website email accounts anymore
[06:38] <BluesKaj> well i had the newer version , but inoder to update i had uninstall the the existing and now I'm stuck with an even older version cuz the so called update won't install :(
[06:39] <Admiral_Chicago> tamacracker: i believe it can get from hotmail
[06:39] <tamacracker> Admiral, what can?
[06:39] <Jucato> Admiral_Chicago: needs something like fetchmail I think
[06:39] <Admiral_Chicago> i think i read tha somewhere on the KDE devs
[06:39] <Admiral_Chicago> ah okay
[06:39] <Admiral_Chicago> is hotmail POP?
[06:39] <BluesKaj> what ISP are using? ...they usually offer email boxes , tamacracker
[06:39] <Jucato> no
[06:39] <Jucato> hotmail and yahoo don't offer free POP3 services anymore
[06:40] <tamacracker> comcast... lol but
[06:40] <tamacracker> i dont think it's safe to use them either
[06:40] <tamacracker> :D
[06:40] <BluesKaj> why lol ?
[06:40] <Jucato> tamacracker: set up your own e-mail server then.
[06:40] <tamacracker> i just don't like corporations taking a peek at my emails.
[06:40] <BluesKaj> why do you think that
[06:40] <Jucato> tamacracker: because even if you use an e-mail client, you're still going to use an e-mail service
[06:40] <tamacracker> yeah Jucanto
[06:41] <Jucato> an e-mail client just basically makes it possible for you to access e-mail services without a browser. but it still needs to be connected to a service, which you need to sign up for, unless you make your own e-mail server
[06:41] <SperMite> Is there a way where i can view files videos etc. off my linux box on my windows machine
[06:42] <tamacracker> yeah I wanted to fetch my mail from hotmail
[06:42] <tamacracker> so i dont have to go to a website
[06:42] <tamacracker> in order to log on
[06:42] <Dr_willis> Gee.. i manage to get like 300+ spams a day at my hotmail account.
[06:42] <tamacracker> exactly.
[06:42] <Dr_willis> thats in addation to the 400+ that do get tagged as spam..
[06:42] <Jucato> hotmail has very poor spam filtering
[06:42] <tamacracker> i get a bunch of porn and survey crap
[06:43] <tamacracker> im sick of havin to go one by one
[06:43] <Dr_willis> Hotmail is so poor.. i advise using somthing else.
[06:43] <Jucato> Yahoo, on the other hand, sometimes overdoes it..
[06:43] <SperMite> tamacracker you need gmail
[06:43] <tamacracker> gmail?
[06:43] <Dr_willis> gmail is good. :)
[06:43] <Jucato> Google mail
[06:43] <tamacracker> :D
[06:43] <Dr_willis> linuxmail.org is 'useable'
[06:43] <tamacracker> "useable" ? lol
[06:43] <Jucato> I don't to advertise, but I've found Gmail to be exactly what I need...
[06:44] <SperMite> Gmail is the best
[06:44] <Jucato> and it's web interface is horrible enough so that I want to use an e-mail client instead :P
[06:44] <tamacracker> well i guess gmail is something i should check out :)
[06:44] <Dr_willis> http://www.abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijk.com           is the best free web email!
[06:44] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:44] <SperMite> not sure if you still need to be invited tho
[06:44] <Jucato> lol
[06:44] <T3hWiz0rd> linux really seems to of slowed down since 2.4
[06:44] <Jucato> still needs invites
[06:44] <Dr_willis> and yes thats a real site.
[06:44] <tamacracker> ...
[06:44] <T3hWiz0rd> i know that'll probably get me flamed but it is certainly a bit slower.
[06:44] <tamacracker> that's not a real site
[06:44] <tamacracker> Lol
[06:44] <tamacracker> is it?
[06:44] <Dr_willis> tamacracker,  it is.
[06:44] <tamacracker> LOL
[06:45] <Dr_willis> YES. it is.
[06:45] <tamacracker> ABCs x 2
[06:45] <Jucato> T3hWiz0rd: linux kernel? or linux os (GNU/Linux)?
[06:45] <nekostar> mmm
[06:45] <Dr_willis> Sign up for the world's longest alphabetical email address now and surprise your friends, coworkers, and your affiliates with the extraordinary long email address you will be using for FREE!
[06:45] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: with each passing kernel version it seems to of gotten a bit slower for me.
[06:45] <nekostar> so if one has an intel 64 bit cpu what install cd?
[06:45] <nekostar> the amd64?
[06:45] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: running it side by side to windows theres def a big difference in performance for me.
[06:45] <Jucato> T3hWiz0rd: I wasn't around that long to compare, but I've heard that 2.6 is significantly larger than 2.4
[06:45] <Jucato> T3hWiz0rd: on any distro?
[06:45] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: the linux kernel is growing a bit too big
[06:46] <nekostar> Jucato the kernel?
[06:46] <nekostar> yeah sure is
[06:46] <nekostar> XD
[06:46] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: suse linux and edgy both seem a bit slow
[06:46] <tamacracker> hell yeah it is
[06:46] <tamacracker> lol :D
[06:46] <T3hWiz0rd> Jucato: *shrugs*
[06:46] <nekostar> T3hWiz0rd it also matters how you install it
[06:46] <nekostar> if you want fast with ubuntu
[06:46] <nekostar> try a fluxbox or blackbox installation
[06:46] <Jucato> Kubuntu isn't that fast, imho...
[06:46] <tamacracker> Jucato you use an email client and it fetches your gmail? or did i misunderstand?
[06:46] <nekostar> kde isnt that fast no.
[06:46] <T3hWiz0rd> nekostar: i do like kde tho
[06:46] <nekostar> kde-core all the way then
[06:46] <T3hWiz0rd> i know gnome is faster than kde too though
[06:47] <nekostar> T3hWiz0rd not neccisaryally
[06:47] <tamacracker> gnome is faster? <,<
[06:47] <nekostar> +correct sp
[06:47] <Jucato> tamacracker: yes. it fetches your mail from gmail, allows you to send e-mails without logging into the web interface
[06:47] <Zaire> lol
[06:47] <T3hWiz0rd> tamacracker: a little bit for me
[06:47] <tamacracker> gnome edy is slower than kde edgy for me.
[06:47] <nekostar> personally i prefer gnome
[06:47] <Zaire> desktop manager war?
[06:47] <T3hWiz0rd> Zaire: no, im just talking about my personal noticing
[06:47] <nekostar> but again
[06:47] <tamacracker> Jucato... which client do you use
[06:47] <T3hWiz0rd> i prefer kde over gnome
[06:47] <Zaire> KDE is the shiz
[06:47] <nekostar> if you want really fast
[06:47] <Dr_willis> I got a littel applet for gmail that sits in the task tray
[06:47] <nekostar> try um
[06:47] <tamacracker> so i can make a gmail account and used the client?
[06:47] <nekostar> enlightenment
[06:47] <nekostar> thats blazing
[06:47] <Jucato> tamacracker: that's the only way you can do it :)
[06:48] <Dr_willis> gmail has pop support and so on i belive. If you enable it.
[06:48] <Hawkwind> If you think enlightenment is fast, try E17 :)
[06:48] <Zaire> linus torvalds father of linux even says use KDE lol
[06:48] <tamacracker> oh sweet
[06:48] <nekostar> Dr_willis that is indeed correct
[06:48] <tamacracker> so google will install a client
[06:48] <nekostar> sure
[06:48] <tamacracker> instead of havin to use the web?
[06:48] <Jucato> tamacracker: no
[06:48] <nekostar> there is great documentation in the forums
[06:48] <Dr_willis> No google does not isntall a client.
[06:48] <nekostar> ubuntuforums.org
[06:48] <Dr_willis> you can use any client. :)
[06:48] <Jucato> tamacracker: Gmail doesn't install a client. you can use any e-mail client with it
[06:48] <tamacracker> such as kmail?
[06:48] <nekostar> Zaire
[06:48] <nekostar> i am willing to bet he doesnt use ubuntu though
[06:48] <nekostar> and again
[06:48] <nekostar> gentoo is faster
[06:49] <nekostar> done correctly
[06:49] <Jucato> tamacracker: kmail, thunderbird, evolution, etc
[06:49] <tamacracker> woot.
[06:49] <nekostar> but this is not for that level of user
[06:49] <tamacracker> sounds good to me :D
[06:49] <Dr_willis> I use "CheckGmail" it just shows the new messages/headers. i can click to mark as read/ or openin the browser. heh.
[06:49] <Zaire> Im sure he doesn't but KDE is more flexible then gnome and more customizable
[06:49] <nekostar> um
[06:49] <nekostar> since when
[06:49] <nekostar> ive yet to find something i cant customize
[06:49] <nekostar> in gnome
[06:49] <nekostar> lol
[06:49] <nekostar> silly Zaire
[06:50] <Zaire> since a while...I used to use redhat and it runs gnome and since KDE I can't even touch gnome its just gross to me
[06:50] <nekostar> ..................................
[06:50] <nekostar> redhat is a malformed pos
[06:50] <nekostar> lol
[06:50] <nekostar> vanilla debian is faster than ubuntu
[06:51] <tamacracker> Thanks Dr_willis and Jucato :D
[06:51] <nekostar> but again
[06:51] <nekostar> this place and this target user group isnt about that
[06:51] <Zaire> wrong channel to spout gnome is great lol
[06:51] <nekostar> tho xubuntu is the fastest default install desktop install
[06:51] <otep> brb
[06:51] <nekostar> Zaire all chans are good ones
[06:51] <nekostar> XD
[06:51] <Zaire> Xubuntu is using gdm
[06:51] <Jucato> not really nekostar
[06:51] <Dr_willis> Bah! twm rules and you knwo it!
[06:52] <nekostar> really Jucato
[06:52] <nekostar> twm......
[06:52] <Jucato> specially if the channel is supposed to be for Kubuntu support only :P
[06:52] <nekostar> icewm > twm
[06:52] <Dr_willis> How do you even measuer speeds of such things.. :)
[06:52] <Jucato> Dr_willis: stopwatch :P
[06:52] <otep> dr willis
[06:52] <otep> thanks
[06:52] <otep> ;)
[06:52] <otep> brb
[06:52] <nekostar> im here b/c a friend asked me to install kde b/c their computer was virus ridden and they want the look and feel of windows
[06:52] <nekostar> XD
[06:52] <nekostar> not because i use it
[06:52] <nekostar> tho i have
[06:52] <Dr_willis> I sort of like "MatchBox" :)
[06:52] <nekostar> and if i were to again
[06:52] <nekostar> i would use kde-core
[06:53] <nekostar> + gnome-core + synaptic + k3b + gtkpod
[06:53] <nekostar> +++++++++
[06:53] <Zaire> I would hardly say KDE has the look and feel of winblows
[06:53] <nekostar> compaired to the other wm's sure it does
[06:53] <nekostar> lol
[06:53] <Zaire> not really
[06:53] <nekostar> Jucato is in teh w1n section
[06:53] <nekostar> XD
[06:53] <nekostar> name one Zaire
[06:54] <nekostar> and it better not be icewm
[06:54] <Jucato> ??
[06:54] <Jucato> what makes KDE have the look and feel of windows?
[06:54] <nekostar> just randomly approving of your kde-core choice Jucato lol
[06:54] <nekostar> well
[06:54] <nekostar> placement of start button type thing
[06:54] <nekostar> look and feel of backgrounds
[06:54] <nekostar> menus
[06:54] <Jucato> lol
[06:55] <nekostar> etc
[06:55] <avatar`> Hi :)
[06:55] <Dr_willis> Egads! It uses Menus and has a start button!
[06:55] <nekostar> for someone just switching yeah its like windows without virii
[06:55] <Dr_willis> Why dosent MS Sue!
[06:55] <Dr_willis> :)
[06:55] <Jucato> (it's not even called a start button)
[06:55] <nekostar> oh im sure they would love to Dr_willis
[06:55] <Zaire> no its the Kmenu
[06:55] <avatar`> Need a little help over here.
[06:55] <nekostar> Jucato i know ~_~
[06:55] <nekostar> avatar` wat seems to be the problem
[06:55] <T3hWiz0rd> stupid thinger
[06:55] <nekostar> just ask dont ask to ask XD
[06:55] <tamacracker> lol
[06:55] <krissu> !grub
[06:55] <Ubotwo> grub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[06:55] <tamacracker> jucato
[06:55] <Zaire> buttons are nothing like winblows Im in XP right now -_-
[06:55] <Jucato> oh, GNOME has a taskbar at the bottom.... it must feel like windows...
[06:56] <nekostar> lol
[06:56] <avatar`> How do i change what app that starts when i press the "multimedia"-button, i dont want amarok to start :)
[06:56] <tamacracker> can you email me an envitation
[06:56] <tamacracker> invitation
[06:56] <nekostar> mm
[06:56] <Healot> tamacracker: you want one?
[06:56] <tamacracker> shit i can't spell
[06:56] <nekostar> should be in the multimedia prog preferences
[06:56] <Jucato> tamacracker: Gmail? I need a current/active e-mail add to send it to you
[06:56] <tamacracker> healot if you can please
[06:56] <tamacracker> oh ok jucato
[06:56] <Jucato> tamacracker: can you PM me?
[06:57] <tamacracker> sure
[06:57] <avatar`> nekostar,.. where are they? :)
[06:57] <nekostar> heh yeah
[06:57] <nekostar> if anyone else needs gmail invites speak up
[06:57] <Hawkwind> I'll sell you a pack of 500 invites for $50 :P
[06:57] <nekostar> avatar` dunno offhand
[06:57] <Jucato> lol
[06:57] <nino> Hi all
[06:57] <tamacracker> lol
[06:57] <avatar`> nekostar: damn.
[06:57] <tamacracker> jucato
[06:57] <Zaire> I have my own mail server so no thanks lol
[06:57] <tamacracker> sadly
[06:57] <Hawkwind> I've only got about 4,000 or so
[06:57] <tamacracker> i can't send a private message.
[06:58] <Jucato> tamacracker: you can't PM me, huh? not registered...
[06:58] <Jucato> hold on
[06:58] <tamacracker> LOL
[06:58] <Hawkwind> Plus I have Google apps for my domain as well :)
[06:58] <nino> I am thinking of switching to suse desktop enterprise, any comment??
[06:58] <avatar`> i'll have to change client.. gah.. "Konversation" really stinks.
[06:58] <tamacracker> im assuming in order to register you'd need to pay as well?
[06:58] <Jucato> no
[06:58] <nekostar> lol
[06:58] <Dr_willis> why bother. :)
[06:58] <Jucato> tamacracker: you don't need to pay to register your nick in IRC
[06:58] <nekostar> Zaire ive got a few mailservers
[06:58] <nekostar> ~_~
[06:58] <Dr_willis>  pay ? pay who? heh
[06:58] <tamacracker> that's funny
[06:58] <Healot> only use 100++MB for my google mail
[06:58] <Healot> fuh
[06:58] <Zaire> I run surge
[06:59] <avatar___> there.
[06:59] <nekostar> eh
[06:59] <Zaire> surgemail is nice
[06:59] <nekostar> avatar___ wb
[06:59] <Jucato> tama, did you get my PM?
[06:59] <nekostar> first off
[06:59] <nekostar> gaim is teh win
[06:59] <avatar___> nekostar: thnx :)
[06:59] <nekostar> sudo apt-get install gaim
[06:59] <nekostar> and check out the extra packages
[06:59] <nekostar> works great for im's
[06:59] <Jucato> nekostar: you're really getting out of place
[06:59] <nekostar> xchat is pwnge for irc unless your running mor ethan a dozen chans
[07:00] <nekostar> Jucato gaim does not depend on gnome
[07:00] <Zaire> nope
[07:00] <avatar___> nekostar: can you do some research about my little question? :)
[07:00] <nekostar> k3b is the best linux app ever for burning
[07:00] <nekostar> sigh
[07:00] <Jucato> not absolutely, but on GTK
[07:00] <nekostar> if no one else finds it faster i'll find it
[07:00] <Zaire> k3b is also kde
[07:01] <avatar___> nekostar: looks like it usese the button called "XF86AudioMedia"
[07:01] <avatar___> tho it is not configurable anywhere more than maybe in a file somewhere..
[07:02] <nekostar> i think i might have found it
[07:02] <Zaire> hmmm time to do the routine check on my auth logs
[07:03] <Zaire> and good no new brut forces lol
[07:03] <Zaire> brute*
[07:03] <nekostar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultimediaKeys
[07:03] <nekostar> mm
[07:04] <nekostar> seems thats all about setting keys
[07:04] <avatar___> ill have a look
[07:04] <nekostar> yeah that should do it...
[07:04] <nekostar> Zaire arnt u an op here?
[07:05] <Healot> !ops
[07:05] <Ubotwo> Help! Keybuk, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, nalioth, Madpilot, ompaul, rob, Hobbsee, imbrandon, DBO, LjL, elkbuntu, Mez or gnomefreak!
[07:05] <Healot> oops
[07:05] <nekostar> ........
[07:06] <avatar___> nekostar: since they allready work and i dont have gconf-editor there must be any settings or pre-set's somewhere.
[07:06] <nekostar> search forums for kde registry
[07:06] <nekostar> or something like that
[07:06] <nekostar> brb
[07:07] <nalioth> Healot: yes?
[07:08] <Jucato> Healot: better hide if you called them by mistake :p
[07:08] <nekostar> nalioth was indeed a mistake
[07:08] <nekostar> but would u mind helping avatar___ since yer about?
[07:08] <nalioth> Healot: did you need something?
[07:08] <nekostar> how does one edit the registry type thing in kde
[07:08] <nekostar> nalioth no
[07:09] <nekostar> i asked if Zaire was an op
[07:09] <nekostar> he did that
[07:09] <Zaire> huh wha was playin a mmorpg lol
[07:10] <tatatoothee> howdy.  am having trouble sftp-ing to my host provider, which is dreamhost.  is not working from my kubuntu box but is working from my xp box.  could someone out there with kubuntu try sftp://dreamhost.com (preferably via konqueror) and see if you even get a user / password prompt?  i am repeatedly told " An error occurred while loading sftp://dreamhost.com:" and "connection closed by remote host."  am just trying to isolate if this 
[07:10] <nekostar> ...................................
[07:10] <nekostar> tatatoothee
[07:10] <nekostar> are you trying to f tp in?
[07:10] <nekostar> bc/ thats very icky with kon*
[07:11] <tatatoothee> yes i am.  well, actually sftp, but i tried both ftp and sftp
[07:11] <nekostar> i would 1. enable ssh in your dh config
[07:11] <nekostar> then two use a different ftp client
[07:11] <tatatoothee> my (s)ftp works with other sites but not with the dreamhost site
[07:11] <tatatoothee> what's bad about the konqueror ftp?
[07:11] <nekostar> their latest techs are not anything to be proud of
[07:12] <nekostar> its bad.
[07:12] <Zaire> my preffered ftp program for linux is gftp
[07:12] <tatatoothee> security wise?
[07:13] <flaccid> gftp sux :)
[07:13] <flaccid> use kftpgrabber or krusader :)
[07:13] <flaccid> !flash
[07:13] <Ubotwo> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[07:14] <nekostar> agreed Zaire[shower] 
[07:15] <tatatoothee> i use krusader also (for more intense stuff; konqueror seems useful & good for day to day backups blah blah).
[07:15] <ubuntu> I can\t write GRUB to the MBR Error 17: Cannot mount selected partition
[07:15] <nekostar> but i was thinking at this point that i would get crucified if i mentioned another proggie that uses g in the name
[07:15] <nekostar> XD
[07:15] <nekostar> not tried krusader tbh
[07:15] <Ashex> Anyone have experience setting up twinview?
[07:15] <nekostar> gftp been fairly stable and decent to me
[07:15] <nekostar> yes aye im good at that Ashex
[07:15] <nekostar> :)
[07:15] <nekostar> i even have an xorg file
[07:16] <Ashex> Sweet
[07:16] <nekostar> www.inuyasha-lives.com/linux/xorg.conf
[07:16] <nekostar> take a look at it
[07:16] <Ashex> I've got it setup, but i keep getting that scrolling effect where the display is larger then the screen
[07:16] <nekostar> ask if j00 need mroe help
[07:16] <Ashex> sweetness
[07:16] <nekostar> ah
[07:16] <nekostar> thats your resolution thing
[07:16] <nekostar> make sure you selected 1280x960
[07:16] <nekostar> not 1280x1024
[07:16] <Ashex> and i can get rid of that but only when the resolution is all the way up
[07:16] <Ashex> hmm, i'll give it a shot
[07:16] <nekostar> and leave the resolution up :D
[07:17] <nekostar> Ubotwo
[07:17] <tatatoothee> this client discussion is appreciated, thanks.  but could someone just try a generic connection query to sftp://dreamhost.com and see if you get any response?
[07:17] <nekostar> sigh i dont like those free formats
[07:17] <nekostar> if one wants a damn good format try flac
[07:17] <Ashex> it's at like 1400x1050
[07:17] <nekostar> for audio
[07:17] <nekostar> ah widescreen eh
[07:17] <nekostar> well
[07:17] <nekostar> you need to figure how to reconfigure xorg
[07:17] <nekostar> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:18] <nekostar> but there was some wierd thing about it last i tried....
[07:18] <nekostar> didnt really wanna write the file or so mething......
[07:18] <Ashex> ah, it's not widescreen
[07:18] <Ashex> that's just the only resolution where it's not larger then the screen
[07:18] <tatatoothee> nekostar, you're not talking to me about xorg, are you?
[07:18] <Ashex> but, i'll be right back
[07:18] <nekostar> i am indeed Ashex
[07:19] <nekostar> twinview is setup from inside that
[07:19] <Jucato> tatatoothee: maybe you need something like millhouse.dreamhost.com? (depends on the server?)
[07:19] <Zaire[shower] > before I go check out http://www.bcdesigns.org/ffc/
[07:21] <tatatoothee> jucato well actually i normally sftp  to my own domain but, well, i'm not going to mention that domain because i don't trust my security yet and, well, you guys are a lot smarter than me. . . but my understanding is that sftp://dreamhost.com  usually works anyway, and i get the same reaction.
[07:21] <Jucato> tatatoothee: no sftp://dreamhost.com doesn't work
[07:21] <Jucato> for me at least
[07:21] <tatatoothee> jucato are you on kubuntu?
[07:21] <Jucato> yes
[07:22] <Jucato> I'm here, aren't I? :P
[07:22] <nekostar> lol
[07:22] <Jucato> but sftp://servernamehere.dreamhost.com works
[07:22] <nekostar> hahaha
[07:22] <nekostar> then its their dns setup
[07:22] <nekostar> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[07:22] <nekostar> i get error while installing from cdrom
[07:23] <nekostar> some supplicant package was corrupt
[07:23] <tatatoothee> okay, that doesn't exactly isolate the problem but it at least points to something.  i compared my settings aga
[07:23] <nekostar> and now its really unhappy about debconf
[07:23] <flaccid> !shockwave > flaccid
[07:23] <nekostar> and initramfs-tools
[07:23] <tatatoothee> jucato, are you saying that you're connecting to a distinct server on dreamhost w/ no problem?
[07:23] <Jucato> yes
[07:24] <Jucato> as long as I connect to servername.dreamhost.com. not dreamhost.com only
[07:24] <nekostar> wpasupplicant is the package with kubuntu onto a dell dimension 2400
[07:24] <nekostar> any help here?
[07:24] <nekostar> tatatoothee
[07:24] <nekostar> dreamhost is really stingy about ip addresses
[07:24] <nekostar> its their biggest problem
[07:25] <tatatoothee> okay.  i double checked / compared my settings on my xp box and on my kubuntu box.  i probably need to triple check.  maybe i just f-d up something accidentally.  the weird part was that i didn't remember changing anything, and then suddenly was blocked.  okay thanks.
[07:25] <nekostar> if you go to your panel.dreamhost.com and change your acct to ssh
[07:25] <nekostar> then you can find your server addy easy
[07:25] <tatatoothee> my acct is already ssh
[07:25] <nekostar> then login via shell and check server name and yer fixed up
[07:25] <nekostar> also
[07:25] <nekostar> try firefox instead if you havnt
[07:25] <nekostar> and if you have try wine+ie
[07:25] <nekostar> or
[07:26] <nekostar> install that user extension for firefox that lets u fake its ie
[07:26] <nekostar> it might just not allow linux clients to do that or something
[07:26] <nekostar> #dreamhost is on this server
[07:26] <nekostar> but they dont really do much helping there
[07:26] <nekostar> and are generally a bunch of sods
[07:26] <avatar___> heh
[07:27] <nekostar> [personal opinion (tm)] 
[07:28] <tatatoothee> nekostar thanks.  it had allowed linux clients before.  that was what surprised me; all of a sudden, no go, and i hadn't changed anything.  sigh.  well, i should go to bed.  more for tomorrow i reckon.  thanks guys.  i am relatively new to kubuntu but i really like it (except for a few sticky things like this, which probably are actually on my end not kubuntu).  thanks to all of you who have worked on its development.
[07:28] <nekostar> sorry im not in gnome on my othter other computer
[07:28] <nekostar> or i would try from there
[07:28] <nekostar> :/
[07:29] <nekostar> is anyone familiar with wpasupplicant being corrupt on a kubuntu install?
[07:30] <glenn> yeah
[07:30] <nekostar> ah
[07:30] <nekostar> i had to restart the install process
[07:30] <nekostar> hopefully it wont be crap again
[07:30] <nekostar> i burned at 16x with verification on norton on my roomates windows system which the disk passed with flying colors
[07:30] <glenn> go to the konsole and write sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant
[07:30] <nekostar> the iso was flawless etc
[07:30] <nekostar> the system is installing for the first time glenn
[07:31] <nekostar> so if it fails again chroot in and do that?
[07:31] <glenn> ok
[07:32] <glenn> have no idea
[07:32] <Ashex> okay, that didn't work too well
[07:32] <glenn> bye school =/
[07:33] <root> hey evrybody :)
[07:34] <nekostar> Ashex what didnt
[07:34] <nekostar> root i hopeo your not really logged in your system as root and ircing
[07:36] <Ashex> the xorg file you linked me
[07:36] <Ashex> but, my lady friend is getting annoyed, so i'll have to fix it later :/
[07:36] <nekostar> um
[07:36] <nekostar> use parts of it for yours
[07:36] <Ashex> Yeah, I'm putting it together right now
[07:36] <nekostar> 1. make sure you correctly install nvidia drivers / modules as need to be done for ubuntu
[07:36] <Ashex> I'll have to test it at a later time
[07:36] <Ashex> I used automatix for that, and they're currently loaded
[07:36] <nekostar> modify your xorg and use the parts under where it lists the
[07:37] <nekostar> well
[07:37] <nekostar> anyway copy the bits over where it shows the options etc by the card
[07:37] <nekostar> and the screen 0 bit
[07:37] <nekostar> and down at the bottom of the file where it shows screen 0 leftof screen 12
[07:37] <nekostar> and down at the bottom of the file where it shows screen 0 leftof screen 1
[07:37] <Ashex> I just used yours straight, so i'm going to shoot for copying the section with resolutions
[07:37] <nekostar> etc
[07:37] <Ashex> alright
[07:37] <nekostar> but my resolutions wont be correct for you
[07:37] <nekostar> are you using widescreen?
[07:37] <Ashex> nope
[07:38] <nekostar> or 4x3 format
[07:38] <nekostar> ah
[07:38] <Ashex> standard 4:3
[07:38] <nekostar> well
[07:38] <nekostar> the highest that xorg seems to like with my personal fx5200 is 1280x960 in linux
[07:38] <nekostar> i can get way higher in windows
[07:38] <nekostar> who knows why....
[07:38] <Ashex> heh
[07:38] <Ashex> I think i have that card sitting around somewhere....
[07:38] <nekostar> and also the frequencies are important
[07:38] <nekostar> lol
[07:38] <nekostar> that card + that config works as is
[07:38] <nekostar> XD
[07:39] <nekostar> usually
[07:39] <nekostar> >.>
[07:39] <Ashex> hehe
[07:39] <Ashex> I'll stick with my 6600 :P
[07:39] <nekostar> lol
[07:39] <nekostar> this system im typing with has the 7900 or something
[07:39] <nekostar> fucking sick
[07:39] <nekostar> and the guy doesnt use it for shit
[07:39] <nekostar> i could toss my vid card in and he wouldnt notice
[07:39] <Ashex> heh, I know that feeling
[07:40] <nekostar> sihg.
[07:40] <nekostar> o well
[07:40] <nekostar> i'
[07:40] <nekostar> plan on making an actual sick system next year or so
[07:40] <nekostar> $6000 is my budget
[07:40] <nekostar> :D
[07:40] <Ashex> sweetness
[07:40] <ray_c> I have a broken system, and don't know how to fix it
[07:40] <nekostar> still deciding on dual dual core opterons [quad if out]  or dual core xenons
[07:40] <Ashex> I usually shoot for building a performance computer, then building it up from there
[07:40] <nekostar> ray_c wats broken
[07:41] <nekostar> that is indeed the idea Ashex
[07:41] <Ashex> if you get quad, don't get an intel quad
[07:41] <ray_c> all I can only login as root
[07:41] <fannagoganna> what's wrong with the intel quad?
[07:41] <nekostar> what is the error ray_c
[07:41] <Ashex> the intel quad-cores will just be 2 dual-cores in one
[07:41] <nekostar> eh
[07:41] <Ashex> so it will still be using the external bus
[07:41] <fannagoganna> so not a four-core you mean?
[07:41] <nekostar> as long as a mobo holds two of em.....
[07:41] <nekostar> meh
[07:41] <Ashex> it will be slower then an amd quad-core
[07:41] <nekostar> what i want is one 12GHZ core not 4 3GHZ cores dammit
[07:41] <ray_c> it goes to a box that says connect to server, the box that asks to connect to a server
[07:42] <Ashex> the amd quad-cores will be 4 cores in one proc
[07:42] <Ashex> so it will all be internal
[07:42] <nekostar> ray_c eh?
[07:42] <nekostar> what can you only log in as root to
[07:42] <nekostar> your system?
[07:42] <nekostar> or a program on said system
[07:42] <nekostar> you shouldnt be able to log in as root by default and use gui at all
[07:42] <ray_c> yes to my system
[07:42] <ray_c> no gui
[07:43] <nekostar> if you just cant use the gui then th ere is a thing about that.... but that broken xorg thing is kinda old
[07:43] <nekostar> !xorg fix
[07:43] <Ubotwo> Sorry, package searching is not available - try http://packages.ubuntu.com
[07:43] <nekostar> !xorg
[07:43] <Ubotwo> The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type "sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart" in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: http://help.ubuntu.com/community/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[07:43] <nekostar>  mmm thats not it either
[07:43] <nekostar> well
[07:43] <ray_c> it's not the screen resolution
[07:45] <nekostar> well
[07:45] <nekostar> first
[07:45] <nekostar> sudo apt-get update
[07:45] <nekostar> see if that does anything
[07:45] <nekostar> or sudo apt-get -f upgrade
[07:45] <nekostar> er do both as upgrade sorry
[07:46] <ray_c> does not wok apt-get upgrade
[07:46] <nekostar> udo apt-get install xserver-xorg-core
[07:46] <nekostar> see if you can do that
[07:47] <Damn_Yankee> or try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe
[07:47] <ray_c> does not work
[07:47] <scorp007> what does it mean when a user is 'disabled' in the user management section?
[07:48] <Damn_Yankee> xorgconfig  ??
[07:48] <ray_c> still does not work
[07:48] <Jucato> if I change my hostname, do I need to restart?
[07:49] <nekostar> eh
[07:49] <nekostar> depends on how its done
[07:49] <nekostar> ray_c
[07:49] <ray_c> I can only startx in recovery mode
[07:49] <nekostar> /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[07:49] <ray_c> or rather start the system in recovery
[07:50] <nekostar> mm
[07:50] <nekostar> your problem is deeper than i know how to fix i think
[07:50] <nekostar> im sure there is an error message about it somewhere
[07:50] <nekostar> one thing to do is change the grub line when you boot
[07:50] <nekostar> take out the quiet and bootsplash bit and put in vga=792
[07:51] <ray_c> on the start up I opress esc to get the kernal list then only recovery to stat at the root prompt
[07:51] <nekostar> it doesnt do a gui boot but instead makes the writing really small
[07:51] <nekostar> so you can see the errors
[07:51] <nekostar> and you cant startx as root
[07:51] <nekostar> it shouldlnt let you
[07:51] <nekostar> try su username
[07:51] <nekostar> and then startx
[07:51] <ray_c> I can start the gui in root only
[07:51] <nekostar> eh
[07:52] <ray_c> at the prompt
[07:52] <nekostar> so you _can_ get the gui started?
[07:52] <nekostar> but only as root??
[07:52] <ray_c> yes
[07:52] <nekostar> oi
[07:52] <nekostar> did you make a seperate partition for /home ?>
[07:52] <nekostar> please say you did
[07:52] <ray_c> lost
[07:52] <nekostar> ?
[07:52] <nekostar> what
[07:52] <nekostar> is lost
[07:52] <nekostar> what happened to your system before this started
[07:53] <nekostar> and are you dual boot or anything ?
[07:53] <ray_c> my user login apart from root
[07:53] <ray_c> I do not duel boot
[07:53] <micah68> hi all
[07:53] <ray_c> this is a problem
[07:54] <ray_c> I think thatr I may have to format harddisk and reload Ubuntu
[07:55] <ray_c> because it is broken or corrupt in some way
[07:55] <nekostar> well
[07:56] <nekostar> then reinstall again
[07:56] <nekostar> and manually edit partitions
[07:56] <nekostar> and set swap / and /home to the correct ones
[07:56] <ray_c> ok thanks
[07:56] <nekostar> personally i have them in that order on my hard drives
[07:56] <nekostar> sorry i cant help more
[07:56] <nekostar> also
[07:56] <nekostar> if your in gui google the exact errors
[07:56] <nekostar> and check www.ubuntuforums.org
[07:56] <nekostar> chances are someone else had the same problem at some point
[07:57] <ray_c> thanks nekostar
[07:57] <nekostar> least i can do m8
[07:57] <nekostar> believe me i know the frustration of losing everything
[07:57] <nekostar> eh
[07:57] <nekostar> kbye
[08:08] <crazy_bus> Can anyone help me.  I dont think its a keyboard problem but to make the following signs:    ` ~   I have to press the appopriate key two times in a row.  Is this a kubuntu problem or feature?
[08:09] <defrysk> crazy_bus, a feature
[08:09] <defrysk> you have us_intl
[08:09] <ryanvalor> hello there. has anybody here kubuntu edgy and is playing ultima online with it? because logging in doesnt work for me after setting my net from dhcp to static
[08:09] <defrysk> aka known as us including dead(or blink) keys
[08:10] <defrysk> blind*
[08:10] <defrysk> crazy_bus, you can also do this  
[08:10] <defrysk> for example
[08:11] <ryanvalor> used the kde control center to set my network settings, and the only thing stopped working is logging in via uo on any shard, with any wine config, any install, and so on, however everything works locally or in windows
[08:12] <nekostar> eh well kubuntu refuses to install on this dell i got over here...
[08:12] <nekostar> so i unplugged the network cable and hopefully it will work from the disks packages
[08:13] <crazy_bus> yes I can do    
[08:15] <crazy_bus> How do you change us_intl to a normal us?
[08:15] <defrysk> crazy_bus, if you dont like that you can remove the _intl bit in xorg.conf
[08:15] <defrysk> chenge us_intl to us
[08:16] <defrysk> change*
[08:18] <defrysk> crazy_bus, better to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , run the defaults exept for keyboard bit
[08:19] <defrysk> change it there to us
[08:19] <kraut> moin
[08:22] <avatar___> could have some help over here.. anyone up for it? :)
[08:22] <nekostar> heh
[08:22] <avatar___> hehe
[08:22] <nekostar> again just ask the q instead of asking if j00 can ask
[08:22] <avatar___> now it's the throttling problems :)
[08:23] <nekostar> if someone knows they will answer
[08:23] <nekostar> throttling?
[08:23] <nekostar> sounds easier.....
[08:23] <avatar___> nekostar: just kidding with you..
[08:23] <nekostar> plz xplain
[08:23] <avatar___> yes. hehe
[08:23] <avatar___> sure.
[08:23] <avatar___> i will.
[08:23] <nekostar> ;p
[08:24] <tamacracker> Woot
[08:24] <avatar___> well. the cpu (core duo) throttles down to ~200 mhz (from ~1.6ghz) but when i access the soundcard /dev/dsp using oss or alsa the cpu throttles back to 1.6ghz even then i's not nessesery in any way
[08:24] <nekostar> well
[08:24] <nekostar> first
[08:24] <nekostar> is that a lappy avatar___?
[08:24] <tamacracker> looks like the developers of RockBox! will be creating firmware to support both Windows and Linux users with their F and X series Gigabeat MP3 Players :D
[08:24] <nekostar> if so i knwo the answer
[08:25] <avatar___> yes, therefore it's very disturbing.
[08:25] <nekostar> it auto tunes the cpu according to the load you put on it
[08:25] <nekostar> ^_^
[08:25] <nekostar> put a heavy load on it and all the sudden it will bump up
[08:25] <nekostar> my brothers was freaking me out like that
[08:25] <avatar___> ye will. i know how the thottling works..
[08:25] <nekostar> uses that turon chip
[08:25] <nekostar> yeah throttling works with (k)ubuntu
[08:26] <avatar___> but it as i just access the soundcard (not doing anything/sending anything to it) the cpu throttles.
[08:26] <nekostar> good
[08:27] <nekostar> its supposed to throttle on idle
[08:27] <freewill> my kubuntu iso's md5 doen't match the offical md5 can i repair the iso by doing this? rsync -vPz rsync://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/kubuntu/daily-live/current/*i386.iso
[08:27] <lordvalor> does kde control center set anything else than /etc/network/interfaces while changing network configuration?
[08:27] <nekostar> um
[08:28] <nekostar> no clue freewill
[08:28] <avatar___> yes.. but it is idle when i access the soundcard.. i mean. when i do something it goes up to 800 mhz and so on, but something must be wrong when it goes to full speed even then i just access the card
[08:28] <nekostar> i would instead use the torrents to download it
[08:28] <nekostar> and use your current file there
[08:28] <nekostar> it should notice the good bits and the bad bits if your lucky
[08:28] <freewill> my isp block out p2p some how
[08:28] <avatar___> doing a echo "abc123" > /dev/dsp0 puts it up to 1.6ghz
[08:28] <nekostar> if nto your gonna have to grab the whole thing anyway
[08:28] <nekostar> freewill open ports and utorrent works
[08:28] <nekostar> less your edu
[08:28] <nekostar> or find an old azureus
[08:29] <nekostar> 2.0 or so
[08:29] <nekostar> it has malformed packets that work good
[08:29] <freewill> so where can i find a torrent download for kubuntu edgy i386 desktop?
[08:30] <nekostar> heh
[08:30] <nekostar> should be at same site where the isos are
[08:31] <freewill> there's only bittorrent for the dvd
[08:31] <nekostar> http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//kubuntu/6.06/
[08:31] <fdoving> http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/6.10/kubuntu-6.10-desktop-i386.iso.torrent
[08:31] <freewill> coool
[08:31] <nekostar> ^_^
[08:34] <freewill> i'm firstly just gona try ktorrent though maybe it works ;)
[08:34] <nekostar> eh
[08:34] <nekostar> sudo apt-get install bittornado-gui
[08:36] <freewill> it looks like its repaired :P
[08:36] <fannagoganna> ktorrent craps out for weird, inexplicable reasons when i run it
[08:36] <fdoving> rtorrent is nice for konsole.
[08:36] <fannagoganna> plus, it's incredibly slow -- the same torrent runs at maybe 10K/sec in ktorrent but 300+ K/sec on other torrent clients
[08:37] <fannagoganna> it's weird, why not use bittorrent-curses?
[08:37] <fannagoganna> if running on konsole?
[08:38] <nekostar> first
[08:38] <nekostar> bittorent client is banned all over the place at good trackers
[08:38] <nekostar> use bittornado if your gonna
[08:38] <nekostar> and personally i use btlaunchmanycurses.bittornado /path/to/torrent/directory
[08:38] <nekostar> or
[08:38] <nekostar> and personally i use btlaunchmanycurses.bittornado --max_upload_rate 30 /path/to/torrent/directory
[08:38] <nekostar> replace 30 with 80% of your upload max
[08:38] <freewill> cool
[08:38] <fdoving> take a look at rtorrent: http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/wiki/Screenshots
[08:39] <fdoving> it's very cool.
[08:39] <nekostar> yes yes
[08:39] <nekostar> seen it
[08:39] <nekostar> got right past it
[08:39] <fdoving> you can toggle up/down rates with key shortcuts, you have multiple views. you can add/remove downloads, change priority, etc-
[08:40] <freewill> bittornado a gtk app?
[08:40] <nekostar> bittornado-gui is freewill
[08:40] <nekostar> bittornado itself is cli
[08:40] <Healot> it's a python app, it uses any binding that it can find
[08:41] <freewill> cli is console right?
[08:41] <Healot> common languages infrastructure :)
[08:42] <Bubba_Gump> torrents? it's all aboot the sharing :)
[08:42] <Bubba_Gump> share more, download more - simple :D
[08:42] <Healot> it's all <b>about</b> sharing
[08:42] <Bubba_Gump> heh :D
[08:43] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[08:44] <Healot> damn
[08:44] <nekostar> lol
[08:45] <Healot> does browser based chat client see that bold?
[08:45] <nekostar> see what as bold Healot
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[08:48] <nekostar> oh
[08:48] <nekostar> should ya
[08:48] <nekostar> oh
[08:48] <nekostar> mebbie not
[08:48] <nekostar> those are usually java based clients.....
[08:48] <nekostar> good question
[08:48] <SperMite> Can someone tell me whats going on with my samba??  (http://pastebin.com/825536)
[08:50] <nekostar> niec one SperMite
[08:50] <nekostar> also nice nick lol
[08:50] <nekostar> see if sudo apt-get -f install helps
[08:52] <SperMite> thanks, nekostar. but that didn't help any
[08:53] <nekostar> does it still have errors?
[08:53] <SperMite> yes
[08:53] <nekostar> there are great guides for configging samba correctly in the forums
[08:53] <nekostar> one could try a sudo apt-get --purge remove samba
[08:53] <nekostar> and reinstall it and pray
[08:53] <SperMite> lol ok
[08:55] <SperMite> =( darn
[08:59] <avatar___> what package contains wlanctl?
[08:59] <freewill> !md5
[09:00] <Ubotwo> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/VerifyIsoHowto or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[09:01] <shinobi2> i am a gnome supporter
[09:01] <avatar___> so what are you doing in kde-ubuntu chan? :)
[09:02] <freewill> he wants to know how to become a kde supporter :P
[09:02] <avatar___> freewill: 1-0 to you :)
[09:02] <pvandewyngaerde> i have ubuntu, with kde, but not latest kde, can i upgrade to latest kde ?
[09:04] <avatar___> pvandewyngaerde: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde4-3.80.2.php
[09:04] <Jucato> NO!
[09:04] <avatar___> pvandewyngaerde: there you have the 3.80.2, that will evolve into 4.0 some day. imho it's unstable.
[09:04] <Jucato> avatar___: that is not the latest KDE
[09:05] <Jucato> 3.80.2 is a "developer
[09:05] <Jucato> 3.80.2 is a "developer's" release
[09:05] <avatar___> therefore i said what i said? :)
[09:05] <Jucato> pvandewyngaerde: are you on Dapper or Edgy?
[09:05] <pvandewyngaerde> i mean i have currently kde 3.5.2, and i guess now its 3.5.5,
[09:05] <Jucato> it is not only unstable. it is unusable
[09:05] <pvandewyngaerde> ubuntu LTS
[09:06] <avatar___> Jucato: no, it is not unusable. been trying it and it works tho it's buggy like hell.
[09:06] <Jucato> pvandewyngaerde: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php
[09:06] <Jucato> avatar___: and you don't call that unusable?
[09:06] <Zaire> buggy = very bad
[09:07] <avatar___> pvandewyngaerde: wont apt-get upgrade do? :)
[09:07] <avatar___> Jucato: no? unstable, but not unusable.
[09:07] <avatar___> Jucato: you can use i you can stand the bugs and glitches.
[09:08] <Jucato> so by usable, you mean I can use Kontact normally? That I can normally do Word Processing?
[09:08] <Zaire> unstable is basically unusable
[09:08] <Zaire> just a diff term for saying you shouldn't use it
[09:08] <avatar___> Jucato: depends on what you want to use it for? :)
[09:08] <Jucato> "The second development snapshot of KDE 4 has been released and packages are available for Kubuntu Edgy. These are intended for developers only."
[09:08] <avatar___> Jucato: if you are going to open a "konsole" it will work perfect..
[09:09] <freewill> yay i get 1f9baed847eff89b03c754fcaea8070e on my iso :] 
[09:09] <Jucato> avatar___: and that will help pvandewyngaerde, how?
[09:09] <avatar___> Jucato: well. he asked for the latest version.. not specifying the latest stable or unstable and i did warn him.
[09:09] <Zaire> 43 min more till I have the ubuntu lts dvd lol
[09:10] <unix_infidel> fawn?
[09:10] <Zaire> dapper
[09:10] <unix_infidel> ah
[09:10] <freewill> Zaire, wats the diffs between dvd, cd is there just allot more pkg or what>?
[09:10] <jon_> how do i set up nvidia when i currently have onboard
[09:10] <jon_> ?
[09:11] <Zaire> more or less more available on the dvd
[09:11] <Zaire> I think lol
[09:11] <avatar___> Jucato: if you ask an unspecified question you will probably get the most correct answer, unspecified, tho i added to be nice, that it was unstable.
[09:11] <freewill> Zaire well you'll see soon...
[09:11] <avatar___> unspecifik, will maybe be a better word.
[09:11] <Zaire> Im just guessing cause its 3 gig like my kubuntu dvd lol
[09:12] <freewill> rofl
[09:12] <Zaire> gotta love 5meg download speed
[09:12] <freewill> i love 5kilo :PPPP
[09:13] <Zaire> lol dialup speed.....been a while lol
[09:13] <freewill> (56/ks)
[09:13] <Zaire> Im getting 420kbps on my dapper torrent lol
[09:14] <freewill> thats nice! i get like 300bps :P
[09:14] <freewill> on torrents
[09:15] <Zaire> well for 45 bux a month mine should be fast lol
[09:15] <pvandewyngaerde> Is it possible to add Kubuntu packet sources to my Ubuntu LTS (currently with KDE 3.5.2) and use Synaptic ( or Kpackage) to update to kde 3.5.5 ?
[09:16] <freewill> Zaire, usd?
[09:16] <Zaire> canadian
[09:17] <Healot> you should say pound
[09:17] <nekostar> eh
[09:18] <nekostar> y not gbp while we're at it
[09:18] <freewill> lets se http://www.rainbownation.com/business/randvscad.asp
[09:18] <freewill> uhm the page doesn't load :P
[09:19] <freewill> must be my isp blocking it out too
[09:19] <Zaire> works for me
[09:19] <freewill> so whats the ratio?
[09:21] <Zaire> 45 ca is to 284.504 zar
[09:22] <freewill> lol
[09:22] <nekostar> freewill
[09:22] <Zaire>  1 CAD = 6.32231 ZAR  	 	 1 ZAR = 0.158170 CAD
[09:22] <nekostar> are you behind a firewall or router?
[09:22] <nekostar> if so you need to port
[09:22] <nekostar> bad.
[09:22] <freewill> router
[09:23] <Zaire> how do you have a router with dialup lol
[09:23] <freewill> yep 56k router that you can only get in south africa
[09:23] <Zaire> lol I didn't even know they made one
[09:23] <nekostar> go to portforward.com
[09:23] <nekostar> i believe it is
[09:24] <freewill> nekostar i can't set anything on my router :P
[09:24] <nekostar> eh
[09:24] <Zaire> router IP is usually 192.168.1.1 and that should take you to the setup
[09:24] <nekostar> sux
[09:25] <freewill> myne is 192.168.8.1
[09:25] <freewill> just my ips is pritty evil
[09:25] <Zaire> is that on ifconfig?
[09:25] <freewill> blocks out random sites tries to block out any torrent port...
[09:26] <freewill> Zaire is what?
[09:26] <freewill> Zaire the router
[09:26] <Zaire> the IP is that from ifconfig?
[09:27] <freewill> no its not there
[09:27] <freewill> *no its not there or from there
[09:27] <Zaire> well thats different then
[09:28] <crazy_bus> Is the person still here who was helping me with dead keys on my keyboard still here?
[09:28] <freewill> i can some times also go to my router via 10.0.0.2
[09:29] <Healot> crazy_bus: who would that be?
[09:30] <freewill> Zaire you pay $40?
[09:30] <crazy_bus> I can't remember their username.  They were helping me around 1 hour 15 minutes ago.
[09:30] <Zaire> yeps
[09:30] <Zaire> Cable internet
[09:31] <freewill> Zaire because i pay R250 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?go=Go&search=250/6.32231=39.54....
[09:31] <freewill> what the
[09:31] <freewill> Zaire because i pay R250 [250/6.32231=39.54....] 
[09:31] <freewill> lol i put in two bracets and then it linked to wiki :P
[09:32] <Healot> 250Rand
[09:32] <freewill> for 56k uncaped wifi
[09:32] <Zaire> ah wireless...mines wired
[09:33] <freewill> yeah but the thing is wifi is cheaper here
[09:33] <Zaire> thats a new one...wifi is more here lol
[09:33] <freewill> lol
[09:34] <Zaire> I may use a wireless router if I had a laptop but don't have one :( i need to save up for a dell lol
[09:34] <crazy_bus> How do you restore you xorg.conf file?
[09:35] <Fuzzy76> At some point I think I selected not to show kwallet in my tray. But now I want it back, but I can't find it anywhere.
[09:36] <tamacracker> rockbox gets my respect :D
[09:40] <ScarFreewill> how do i pm some1 in irc? (konverstion)
[09:40] <crazy_bus> You need to login first for this server
[09:40] <crazy_bus> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg
[09:41] <Healot> register your nick first basically
[09:41] <Jucato> Fuzzy76: open up KControl (Alt+F2, kcontrol), then go to Security and Privacy. there's a part there for kwallet
[09:41] <ScarFreewill> ok i have
[09:42] <ScarFreewill> (@ Healot)
[09:42] <crazy_bus> I was here around an hour and a half ago and two people were helping me.  I did what they said but now my X server is broken.  Can anyone help me?
[09:43] <ScarFreewill> crazy_bus, i don't know the command to re cfg ur x server some1 here should though if u want to do that
[09:44] <crazy_bus> Kubuntu won't load at all now
[09:46] <SperMite> http://pastebin.com/825563  =( anyone in here know how to fix this
[09:47] <Jucato> SperMite: have you tried installing with sudo rather than logging in as root?
[09:48] <SperMite> no
[09:48] <dsb> hi
[09:49] <dsb> my bootup stalls at "ACPI: Unable to locate RSDP"
[09:52] <Fuzzy76> Jucato, thanks :)
[09:52] <smaggard> hey
[09:52] <smaggard> whats up?
[09:53] <Fuzzy76> My kwallet har just locked up :-/
[09:53] <Jucato> Fuzzy76: fixed it?
[09:54] <Fuzzy76> jucato: kcontrol froze when I chose kwallet. I think my kwallet is fubar
[09:54] <Jucato> try it again?
[09:54] <Jucato> see if kwallet is running.
[09:55] <Fuzzy76> tried twice, no difference. ps -e | grep kwal returns nothing
[09:58] <dsb>  /join #otw
[09:58] <Fuzzy76> why? I don't even know what otw means :p
[10:00] <Fuzzy76> I found a sessionfile for kwallet in ~/.kde/share/config/session, I'll try hiding that
[10:05] <Fuzzy76> A reboot fixed it though
[10:13] <SperMite> hmm
[10:13] <SperMite> i have a weird problem with samba now. when i try to connect to samba from a windows box it gos into my windows C:/ drive?
[10:13] <SperMite> anyone know whats going on?
[10:19] <russell2> i need to resize a partition, how do i do that? my hard drive has few gigs of free space
[10:19] <unix_infidel> russell2: use qtparted.
[10:19] <crazy_bus> never mind.  I restored my xorg.conf on my own
[10:20] <russell2> ok, let me try
[10:20] <Admiral_Chicago> russell2: you may have to install it
[10:20] <Admiral_Chicago> from konsole, "sudo apt-get install qtparted"
[10:20] <russell2> ok installing it... coming back in a while
[10:20] <Admiral_Chicago> bed now
[10:21] <crazy_bus> I had some issues with qtparted not growing ext3 partitions.  If you get that problem try gparted livecd
[10:21] <RoC_MM> whuh uh
[10:21] <RoC_MM> just do gparted first
[10:21] <RoC_MM> d0h
[10:21] <russell2> gparted is the GUI one?
[10:21] <RoC_MM> why not
[10:22] <RoC_MM> qtparted is as well, it's just not as good
[10:22] <RoC_MM> they have a livecd
[10:22] <russell2> i installed Gnome Partition Edition, is this the gparted program?
[10:22] <RoC_MM> it's nice because a livecd is a "bootable CD" so you can freely edit all your partitions.
[10:22] <RoC_MM> yeah that's the full name.
[10:23] <crazy_bus> i tried gnome partition editor, but it had problems growing ext3 partitions as well.
[10:23] <RoC_MM> was the system offline?
[10:23] <RoC_MM> like were you using a boot CD?
[10:23] <russell2> ok the thing is i want to resize my /hda5 partition, which is my /home
[10:23] <Guardian> hi
[10:23] <RoC_MM> burn the boot CD, and reboot the computer.
[10:23] <Guardian> i'm trying to change my network settings, when i click "administrator mode" all i get is a red bordered pane with nothing inside
[10:23] <RoC_MM> don't try to edit partitions while your are running your system
[10:23] <crazy_bus> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:24] <russell2> RoC_MM: it is OK if i use the Kubuntu recovery mode?
[10:24] <RoC_MM> Maybe
[10:24] <RoC_MM> You probably should just do what I say.
[10:24] <RoC_MM> Actually no.
[10:25] <RoC_MM> No that's not acceptable at all because your booting off the hard drive still
[10:25] <russell2> right...
[10:25] <RoC_MM> you need to NOT boot off your hard drive and have the filesystems offline, not mounted to properly and fully be able to edit them
[10:25] <shinobi2> is there any usage for the # in `man #` command? it asked me what manual page do i want instead of a command line error
[10:25] <russell2> but i can unmount /dev/hda5 too, right?
[10:25] <russell2> my system is in /dev/hdb1
[10:26] <RoC_MM> if your really averse to rebooting, maybe you could try that, but also realize you won't be able to do that if you have any users logged into the CLI or GUI.
[10:26] <RoC_MM> shinobi2, that doesn't make any sense.
[10:26] <RoC_MM> I just realized I was in Kubuntu.
[10:26] <RoC_MM> I thought I was somewhere else.
[10:26] <RoC_MM> ha
[10:27] <russell2> can u give me the URL of the program that i need to boot from?
[10:27] <RoC_MM> crazybus gave it 3 mins ago: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php
[10:27] <russell2> thanks
[10:27] <RoC_MM> burn it with k3b....one of the menu items says "Burn ISO" or "disk image" or somtehing.
[10:27] <russell2> alright
[10:28] <russell2> so is it safe to resize a partition? is there a chance of my existing files getting deleted?
[10:29] <RoC_MM> That information is explained on the gparted site.
[10:29] <RoC_MM> #/j ubuntu
[10:29] <RoC_MM> ha
[10:30] <crazy_bus> does anyone know how to change a keyboard layout from US International (With dead keys) for normal US?
[10:31] <RoC_MM> What are dead keys?
[10:31] <_4strO> yop
[10:31] <defrysk> blind keys
[10:31] <russell2> ok i've another question... when i'm updating my system using Adept Updater, where r the file saved and installed?
[10:32] <Ashex> I have a quick question
[10:32] <Ashex> I recently did a clean install of linux
[10:32] <Ashex> before i had an install on my sata drive and one on my ide drive
[10:32] <Ashex> it was originally booting from the sata drive
[10:33] <crazy_bus> If I press the following keys  ` nothing comes up until I press them again.
[10:33] <RoC_MM> russell2, the updates are all packages, each program has a package...each new package is downloaded and uncompressed onto your system and it overwrites the old one.  There is a cache directory that contains recently downloaded packages.
[10:33] <Ashex> now the system is on the ide drive. But now when it boots off the ide drive it takes a good 2 minutes for grub to load
[10:33] <Ashex> anyone know of a solution for this?
[10:33] <Ashex> I have a seperate partition mounted as /boot that is active on the ide drive
[10:34] <RoC_MM> does the BIOS stay up for longer than usual now?
[10:34] <Ashex> nope, bios is the same
[10:35] <Ashex> I had this problem before when i had an install of kubuntu on each drive, i solved it by booting from the sata drive
[10:35] <russell2> RoC_MM: so where does the programs gets installed? not in /home, right?
[10:35] <Ashex> but, there isn't anything for grub to load on the sata drive now
[10:35] <RoC_MM> russell2, *most* programs are installed into /usr/bin/  , but a package has many files like configuration files, a manual page, et cetera that go in different locations
[10:36] <RoC_MM> I think you can do like for example "dpkg -L mozilla-firefox" to see what is in a specific package that is installed, and where those files are
[10:36] <RoC_MM> Ashex, you can install grub on your SATA drive if you want.
[10:36] <russell2> RoC_MM, thanks, that was really helpful :)
[10:36] <crazy_bus> defrysk, dead keys, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_key
[10:37] <Ashex> RoC_MM, grub is on the sata drive, it's a remnant from the install that was on there, it just gives me an error 15
[10:38] <defrysk> crazy_bus, just run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg , run the defaults , as soon as you see us_intl change it to us and continue after that running the deafaults
[10:38] <defrysk> after done restart x
[10:38] <RoC_MM> Ashex, what is the device name for your SATA drive?   like /dev/sda or somtehing?
[10:38] <Ashex> Yuppers
[10:38] <Ashex> sda2 is the ext3 partition
[10:38] <RoC_MM> I have had good success doing this:
[10:39] <RoC_MM>  sudo grub-install --root-directory=/ /dev/sda
[10:39] <crazy_bus> defrysk, I already tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and I chose the defaults and changed it to us
[10:39] <Ashex> on a sidenote, that partition is my home directory
[10:39] <scorp007> how can i make a daemon run at boot?
[10:39] <scorp007> such as svnserve
[10:39] <crazy_bus> But it completly killed my X
[10:39] <defrysk> crazy_bus, and restarted x ?
[10:39] <defrysk> ow howso ?
[10:40] <RoC_MM> Ashex, change the part that says root directory to whatever path on your system contains the folder "/boot"
[10:40] <RoC_MM> like on mine, the "/" filesystem contains my "/boot/" folder
[10:40] <Ashex> hmm
[10:40] <Ashex> okay, i have a seperate partition on hdb that is /boot
[10:40] <RoC_MM> But let me look up error 15
[10:40] <Ashex> I like to have /boot and /home as seperate partitions
[10:41] <crazy_bus> Kubuntu starting screen loads (The one which used to have text under it).  But after that finishes, the screen is just black
[10:41] <RoC_MM> What partition is /boot on now?
[10:41] <RoC_MM> can you mount it temporarily?
[10:41] <Ashex> hdb1
[10:41] <Ashex> it's currently mounted
[10:41] <Ashex> I keep it that way so i can reuse kernels
[10:42] <RoC_MM> GRUB Error 15 is described here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/grub-error-guide.xml?style=printable
[10:42] <RoC_MM> so
[10:42] <RoC_MM> if it's mounted in say
[10:42] <RoC_MM> .
[10:42] <RoC_MM>  /media/hdb1/
[10:43] <RoC_MM> then change the --root directory to say /media/hdb1 instead of /
[10:43] <Ashex> hold up
[10:43] <Ashex> system is on hdb
[10:43] <crazy_bus> defrysk, do you know what I can do?
[10:43] <Ashex> hdb3 to be precise is /
[10:44] <Ashex> sda2 is /home
[10:44] <Ashex> and hdb1 is /boot
[10:44] <RoC_MM> yes
[10:44] <Ashex> so, I'm guessing --root directory is /boot?/
[10:44] <RoC_MM> uh
[10:44] <Ashex> Heh, I get the feeling i'm confusing you
[10:45] <RoC_MM> does "mount" command say anything about /dev/hdb1 being mounted or listed?
[10:45] <Ashex> dev/hdb1 on /boot type ext3 (rw)
[10:45] <RoC_MM> try something like
[10:45] <RoC_MM>  sudo grub-install --root-directory=/boot/ /dev/sda
[10:46] <defrysk> crazy_bus, comment out : Option         "XkbVariant" "intl" in xorg.conf  might help
[10:46] <Ashex> hmm
[10:46] <Ashex> i'll give it a shot
[10:46] <tamer> people.... I have a small problem
[10:46] <tamer> how do I update my system?
[10:47] <RoC_MM> Wish I could help you tamer, but I'm only certified to fix Big Problems.
[10:47] <tamer> :(
[10:47] <defrysk> crazy_bus, in xorg.conf that is
[10:47] <RoC_MM> Use adept
[10:47] <RoC_MM> tamer
[10:48] <tamer> i mean, update the packages lists and entire system on the console
[10:48] <RoC_MM> Click the Update and then upgrade buttons....that will keep you up to date as far as your current release goes, like Dapper Drake....if you want to upgrade to Edgy or upgrade to a totally new release itself there are procedures on the website.
[10:48] <crazy_bus> defrysk, what do you mean by uncomment out
[10:48] <RoC_MM> Website.
[10:49] <RoC_MM> Website has the commands.
[10:49] <RoC_MM> If you can't find them in five minutes ask again.
[10:49] <crazy_bus> defrysk, Theres no # next to the thing you mentioned if thats what you mean
[10:49] <defrysk> crazy_bus, put a # in front of that line
[10:49] <defrysk> crazy_bus, save it and restart x
[10:50] <crazy_bus> defrysk, my line says;  Option         "XkbVariant" "us"
[10:50] <Guardian> re
[10:50] <defrysk> Option         "XkbLayout" "us" also ?
[10:51] <Guardian> just installed kubuntu, google does not recognize konqueror, thinks it's safari ... how can i fix that ?
[10:51] <crazy_bus> defrysk, Option         "XkbLayout" "us"
[10:51] <crazy_bus> yes
[10:51] <defrysk> and you still have dead keys ?
[10:51] <RoC_MM> Guardian, ...are you sure?
[10:51] <crazy_bus> yes
[10:51] <Guardian> yep, can't access docs.google.com
[10:52] <Guardian> i'm redirected to http://docs.google.com/?action=unsupported_browser
[10:52] <RoC_MM> It's possible as a workaround you could use Firefox instead.  That wouldn't solve the problem but you should be able to access it if you do that.
[10:52] <defrysk> crazy_bus, cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep intl
[10:52] <RoC_MM> Sounds like a bug in their user-agent identification
[10:53] <crazy_bus> defrysk, then what?
[10:53] <defrysk> no output crazy_bus ?
[10:54] <crazy_bus> I typed it into konsole.  pressed enter.  Then it just made a new $
[10:54] <Guardian> well i don't really care who's fault it is :) i just notice that it just does not work :( . can konqueror impersonate firefox for ALL sites ?
[10:54] <defrysk> then its not your xorg.conf
[10:54] <defrysk> crazy_bus, sorry not sure whats wrong then :(
[10:55] <crazy_bus> I chose the dead key option during installation if that helps
[10:55] <Guardian> -who's +whose
[10:56] <RoC_MM> Guardian, you could report the error to them.  That might help.  Konqueror may be able to spoof it's user-agent.  Google for "konqueror user-agent spoofing" or something.
[10:56] <RoC_MM> tamer, did you find those commands?
[10:57] <tamer> yes: apt-get
[10:57] <defrysk> crazy_bus, should have shown up in your xorg.conf afaIk otherwise I do not know
[10:58] <tamacracker> Can someone tell me how to purge my files after installation? I still have existing files
[10:58] <tamacracker> after uninstallation
[10:59] <Guardian> well yeah gonna try to fill in a bug, anyway i guess i'm not the first konqueror user to encounter the pb ... :)
[11:00] <tamacracker> Can someone please help me get rid of all my amarok files.. I need to re-install the newest version, and the old settings will not let me get the newest version.
[11:01] <cpk1> is there a way to change the color depth without changing xorg.conf/restarting x?
[11:02] <crazy_bus> saddssaads
[11:02] <RoC_MM> oh Guardian I noticed the same thing with the network settings and admin mode.
[11:03] <cpk1> tamacracker: apt-get --pu amarok maybe, but you shouldnt have to remove the old one to get the new one
[11:03] <RoC_MM> tamacracker, you can purge the system config files by using "apt-get remove --purge amarok" to purge and remove all files and config settings (the program included)
[11:04] <cpk1> od i said pu instead of purge
[11:04] <cpk1> odd*
[11:04] <RoC_MM> To remove your user-specific settings, you can do "rm -v -rf ~/.amarok" or something similiar
[11:04] <cpk1> hah *tries to type more carefully*
[11:04] <Yaccin> o/
[11:05] <tamacracker> i dunno.. the new one has a new capability
[11:05] <tamacracker> and when i installed on top
[11:05] <Yaccin> why is there a strange bug in the kubuntu kicker-pakage?
[11:05] <tamacracker> i didn't get the new capability.
[11:05] <Yaccin> everyone in #kde says, the 1px-top border-bug in kicker was removed versions bevore 3.5.5
[11:05] <Yaccin> but its still there in the kubuntu packages... :(
[11:06] <RoC_MM> nite
[11:06] <scorp007> how can i configure runlevels in kubuntu?
[11:06] <scorp007> is there a text file or something?
[11:07] <tamacracker> sudo apt-get autoremove amarok  <- just started to delete all my kde programs...
[11:08] <tamacracker> uh..
[11:08] <tamacracker> how do i get all my stuff back?
[11:08] <tamacracker> i stopped it half way
[11:09] <cpk1> try apt-get install -f
[11:10] <tamacracker> ...
[11:10] <Yaccin> :(
[11:10] <tamacracker> well i guess have to reinstall kde again.
[11:10] <tamacracker> i have no browser
[11:10] <tamacracker> no adept manager
[11:11] <cpk1> tamacracker: you should have apt-get or aptitude
[11:12] <crazy_bus> Any dead-key experts out the :) after trying to fix my dead keys, my Windows key has stopped working.
[11:19] <guglielf> Guardian: try this, on my system does work: on konqueror set 'Firefox 1.5.0.7' under Tools > Change Browser Identification > Other
[11:22] <Guardian> i still have unsupported browser
[11:22] <guglielf> uhm
[11:23] <Guardian> yep strange
[11:23] <Guardian> cleared cache and cookies
[11:23] <Guardian> i don't have firefox 1.5.0.7 option
[11:23] <guglielf> yeah right
[11:23] <Guardian> but firefox 1.5.0.4
[11:23] <guglielf> try another one
[11:23] <Guardian> which should also work
[11:23] <Guardian> it's a fresh install of kubuntu edgy ...
[11:23] <guglielf> sure
[11:23] <guglielf> should work
[11:24] <guglielf> yeah i meant 'Firefox 1.5.0.4' not 0.7
[11:25] <Guardian> well enough is enough
[11:25] <Guardian> it's broken period :)
[11:25] <Guardian> installing firefox right now
[11:25] <Guardian> still i'm very surprised about this problem
[11:30] <ul> salut a tous
[11:30] <guglielf> Guardian: you could also try setting it to 'entire site', i mean setting it as 'firefox' for the google.com domain
[11:31] <guglielf> hi
[11:31] <Yaccin> anyone has a fix or something for getting nvidia-settings to work correctly?
[11:33] <cpk1> it "just worked" for me
[11:34] <cpk1> and you should get nvidia-glx not nvidia-settings
[11:35] <Yaccin> i know
[11:35] <Yaccin> i have
[11:35] <Yaccin> and nvidia-settings is included there
[11:35] <Yaccin> but it doesnt keep my seetings for gamme/brightness etx
[11:36] <Yaccin> so i have to reconfigure it every xserver-restart
[11:39] <yamal> Yaccin: specify the gamma correction etc. in /etc/X11/xorg.conf instead.
[11:40] <Yaccin> how do i do that?
[11:40] <Yaccin> err
[11:40] <Yaccin> can i do that with sysmtemsettings/kcontrol?
[11:42] <Yaccin> uhm
[11:42] <Yaccin> i only can control gamma there
[11:42] <Yaccin> not brightness
[11:56] <Guardian> guglielf: tried that too :)
[11:56] <faderhval> hello people :)
[11:57] <faderhval> i just mountet a partition on my machine but only root kan write to it how do i make it so i can write to it???
[11:58] <Yaccin> faderhval: sudo konqueror
[11:58] <Yaccin> go to the dir that contains the partition that you have mountet
[11:58] <Yaccin> rightclick on it
[11:58] <Yaccin> select permissiones
[11:58] <Yaccin> change it the way you like to have
[11:59] <faderhval> konqueror crashes :(
[11:59] <faderhval> drkonqi: cannot connect to X server :0.0
[12:00] <Yaccin> alt + F2 > kdesu konqueror
[12:00] <asraniel> hi there, anybody knows in what file i can set PATH?
[12:01] <asraniel> other than .bashrc, this is only for the console, i need it for the whole computer
[12:03] <faderhval> Yaccin: thank you... will the permissions be the same after reboot?
[12:03] <Yaccin> probably
[12:03] <faderhval> ok i better try it :)
[12:41] <Kim^J> What's that file called that hide folders/files and what shall I write in it?
[12:41] <Kim^J> The file that hides the folders in / in Edgy.
[12:43] <ehird> .hidden
[12:43] <faderhval> have anyone in here succeeded in running wow on kubuntu??
[12:43] <ehird> faderhval: many people have
[12:44] <faderhval> i cant get it to work :(
[12:44] <Kim^J> faderhval: Ask in #winehq
[12:44] <Lynoure> faderhval: didn't they just ban linux users from Wow?
[12:44] <Kim^J> ehird: Do I just put the names of the files folders in there?
[12:44] <ehird> Kim^J: yes
[12:44] <ehird> line by line
[12:45] <Kim^J> Hmm
[12:45] <faderhval> Lynoure: i dont know but you just gave me a reason to set up multiboot....
[12:45] <Kim^J> Added My\ Music but it didn't work with Konq.
[12:45] <Lynoure> faderhval: that was a question, not a statement
[12:45] <faderhval> i know butter better safe then worry :P
[12:46] <Lynoure> faderhval: and even if they did, it's not my fault
[12:46] <faderhval> i know it wasnt an attack :)
[12:46] <faderhval> it was an exprssion to show my geeky protection desire fot my WoW :P
[12:46] <Lynoure> faderhval: I know, I'm just angry at them even for the rumor (funny, given that I have never been to WoW)
[12:47] <faderhval> hehe :) yeah seems a bit lame they would ban someone for using a different OS
[12:48] <Kim^J> ehird: It didn't work. I added the folder but it's still there. I don't show hidden files.
[12:48] <ehird> Kim^J: it will only hide folders and files directly in /
[12:48] <ehird> if you want to hide files or folders elsewhere, get a better solution
[12:48] <Kim^J> ehird: Ahh...
[12:48] <Kim^J> Hmm... Darn.
[12:48] <Lynoure> faderhval: the rumor was that they wanted to keep people from being able to script things, and they could not get that kind of control on Linux
[12:48] <ehird> hiding your music may backfire though :P
[12:49] <ehird> Lynoure: the penguin made them pee their pants
[12:49] <faderhval> with all the free WoW clone servers out there they are lucky anyone even bothers to pay for it!
[12:50] <Lynoure> faderhval: http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/15/1652222 seems to be the story
[12:50] <Kim^J> ehird: Well... I don't want some people to see my music. :D
[12:51] <Kim^J> Oh well... I'll just lock my PC. :D
[12:51] <ehird> Kim^J: make it readable only by root and run amarok as root! /g
[12:52] <faderhval> eeek...
[12:52] <faderhval> sod it.... need to reboot...brb
[12:55] <rolando> hola
[12:56] <rolando> how is it possible to set a different language for a different account in my pc?
[12:56] <rolando> under system-languages
[12:56] <faderhval> uuuh ntfs-3g works very nice :)
[12:56] <rolando> it sets a global language
[12:56] <Fuzzy76> Anyone able to give me some pointers on dual-head with ati proprietary drivers? I've got it running (sort of). But my secondary display has a larger desktop than resolution, so I need to scroll it around. I also have a broken pointer on my secondary display and OpenGL support disappeared. :-/
[12:56] <rolando> so things like FF or amule are in the same language in different accounts
[12:57] <Fuzzy76> I've read all guides and troubleshooting tips, to no avail. :(
[12:58] <ReFuS4L> faderhval, ntfs-3g allows to write/read your files on XP from linux.. doesn't it?
[12:59] <faderhval> yup
[12:59] <rolando> is it stable now?
[12:59] <ReFuS4L> ok....but....i don't need it
[12:59] <faderhval> still beta but works like a charm :)
[01:00] <rolando> just apt-get install will do?
[01:01] <faderhval> uhmm yup if you have settings for the unstable universe
[01:01] <rolando> nice
[01:02] <faderhval> or just follow this guide :) http://www.ntfs-3g.org/
[01:03] <faderhval> woops sorry this one http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217009 :)
[01:13] <daftvader> hi
[01:32] <balder> hi
[01:36] <cpk1> how can i increase how many lines my tty keeps?
[01:47] <allz> i need help guys :S
[01:47] <allz> my screen frezzezzz .allways when i start a website
[01:47] <allz> i just installd kubuntu
[01:48] <allz> and it allways freeezezz when i am trying to installl nvidia driver
[01:48] <allz> !nvidia
[01:48] <ubotu> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:48] <Ubotwo> To install the Ati/NVidia drivers for your video card, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto
[01:48] <Tm_T> Eh.
[01:48] <allz> Tm_t ,can you help me please .S
[01:48] <allz> and now i just upgarded my packages .and i get crash
[01:49] <allz> want me to post the crash debug on website?
[01:53] <_nitram> aew massa o linux
[01:53] <_nitram> KUBUNTU
[01:53] <_nitram> alguem do brasil?
[01:54] <Tm_T> !br
[01:54] <Ubotwo> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:54] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br  ou #ubuntu-pt  para ajuda em portugus. Obrigada.
[01:54] <Tm_T> Hmm, hate that double.
[01:57] <Hobbsee> Tm_T: we can fix that :)
[01:58] <asier> hi
[01:59] <asier> does someone know how to configure a network printer in kubuntu
[01:59] <asier> the problem is that the printer has a dinamic ip
[02:00] <[GuS] > Bonjour...
[02:00] <fugitivo> hello
[02:00] <fugitivo> I unplugged my usb mouse, when I plug it again, it doesn't work
[02:01] <fugitivo> I'm trying to modprobe -r the usb modules and the command freezes
[02:01] <fugitivo> that didn't happen with other linux distros
[02:01] <fugitivo> any idea?
[02:03] <Tm_T> Hobbsee: Heh, I forgot I have some rights.
[02:08] <kristyon> how do i setup a new pointing device? ie a serial touchpad
[02:13] <mikel28> i got a slip/ppp0 (nullmodem) connection between two pc's, one of them is connected to the internet (via my router/gateway), now how do i get the client on the internet?
[02:25] <kristyon> how do i setup another mouse?
[02:27] <vyoman> Adpet updater - how can I find out what has changed? there is no way of telling if the updates are critical or can wait?
[02:29] <nichole> eh
[02:30] <nichole> how do i set the preferred applications?
[02:30] <nichole> i wanna make mplayer default for all vid files for instance
[02:30] <vyoman> nichole - system settings > default applications
[02:31] <nichole> hmm i must have missed that somehow.... *looks*
[02:31] <nichole> yeah i dont see that anywhere vyoman
[02:32] <vyoman> are you using kubuntu?
[02:32] <nichole> i have 4 areas in system settings: personal / hardware / internet and network / system administration
[02:32] <nichole> yes
[02:32] <nichole> thus #kubuntu instead of #ubuntu no?
[02:32] <vyoman> ahh sorry, do use dapper
[02:32] <cpk1> nichole: what version of kde?
[02:32] <nichole> cpk1,  dunno
[02:32] <nichole> 6.06 kubuntu tho
[02:33] <cpk1> nichole: go to help and then about kde in any application
[02:33] <nichole> i just wanna set the files to open with a given program......
[02:36] <nichole> i see some module for file associations....
[02:36] <nichole> i just dont know where to find it !_!
[02:37] <cpk1> nichole: long and painful way, right click the filetype you want to associate and then open with > other and then type in mplayer and at the bottom choose remember this blah blah blah
[02:37] <vyoman> nichole - i don't know dapper very well, but try this open konqi _ on the settings menu > configure konqi then file associations
[02:37] <cpk1> nichole: ahh i found it
[02:37] <cpk1> nichole: open up kcontrol
[02:38] <cpk1> nichole: then go to kde components and then mosey on over to file assiociations
[02:38] <nichole> wheres that cpk1
[02:38] <nichole> kcontrol where is that
[02:38] <cpk1> nichole: just go to kmenu and then run... and type in kcontrol
[02:38] <nichole> ah
[02:39] <nichole> doing...
[02:39] <nichole> yeah...... this looks better ;)
[02:39] <cpk1> nichole: move mplayer to the top of the list for all the filetypes you want it to open by default
[02:40] <nichole> gotcha
[02:42] <kristyon> how do i install another mouse
[02:43] <kristyon> please, i broke my wrist and need to install a touchpad
[02:45] <nichole> ouch
[02:46] <nichole> kristyon,  are you using kde or gnome?
[02:46] <nichole> if kde look in settings for mouse [K]  > system settings > mouse
[02:47] <kristyon> kde
[02:47] <kristyon> nothing there
[02:47] <kristyon> 1 hand typing not fun
[02:48] <nichole> um oh
[02:48] <nichole> i think in xorg.conf
[02:48] <nichole> it points to the area where the mouse is
[02:48] <cpk1> kristyon: it didnt detect it automagically on boot?
[02:48] <asier> how can i set up an ip dinamic network printer?
[02:49] <kristyon> no its serial
[02:49] <nichole> ooo niec
[02:49] <nichole> nice even
[02:49] <kristyon> but then i only just enabled com portd, maybe another reboot?
[02:50] <nichole> eh
[02:50] <nichole> try restarting hal
[02:50] <kristyon> com pors
[02:50] <kristyon> hal resart how?
[02:50] <nichole> mm
[02:50] <cpk1> not sure, you could also try auto generating xorg.conf
[02:50] <cpk1> and then restarting x after that
[02:52] <nichole> meh
[02:52] <kristyon> wish ubuntu had sax2!!!
[02:52] <nichole> i dont know how to restart hal !_!
[02:52] <nichole> restart away
[02:52] <nichole> but for the record
[02:52] <nichole> im sure restarting isnt needed as its not a kernel update ;)_
[02:53] <cpk1> like i said, try restarting X first
[02:53] <kristyon> oke doke
[02:53] <nichole> heh that would be ultra lucky to work cpk1
[02:53] <nichole> hal is in the startup routine somewhere
[02:53] <nichole> on a way lower level
[02:53] <nichole> rc2 or something
[02:53] <cpk1> well pretty sure tty doesnt take mice input
[02:53] <nichole> dunno
[02:53] <nichole> cant remember...
[02:53] <nichole> no it doesnt...
[02:54] <nichole> but ubuntu hal daemon isnt looking for new hardware anyway it sounds like..
[02:54] <cpk1> so restarting x might have a chance of detecting it
[02:54] <nichole> well
[02:54] <cpk1> i guess should have done like lshw
[02:54] <cpk1> first
[02:54] <nichole> got winblowz out of this compy todayz
[02:54] <nichole> lshw ?
[02:54] <nichole> wats that
[02:54] <nichole> kde in for the win
[02:54] <nichole> ^_^
[02:56] <vyoman> has anybody applied applied todays xorg update on edgy? is it safe is it good?
[02:56] <cpk1> actually lshw doesnt list peripheral input devices anyways...
[02:57] <[joemax] > mm
[02:57] <nichole> damn kubuntu-desktop + kde [full]  in with only 3.2 gigs used
[02:57] <[joemax] > still using dapper, but dunno if the updates are that good
[02:57] <nichole> lspci mebbie
[02:58] <gdex|laptop> i like edgy
[02:58] <nichole> mm dont see mouse on that list either.... there is a hardware list in gnome... im sure there is something for kde
[02:58] <cpk1> lspci lists pci =)
[02:58] <nichole> yeah =p
[02:58] <gdex|laptop> nichole: KInfoCenter
[02:58] <nichole> gdex|laptop, ah
[02:59] <nichole> having installed package ' kde ' i'm sure i got it now :D
[02:59] <gdex|laptop> heh yes
[03:00] <nichole> er
[03:00] <nichole> <<--- nekostar installing for a nichole
[03:00] <cpk1> kinfo doesnt have input devices either
[03:00] <nichole> ;)
[03:04] <nichole> mmm
[03:04] <nichole> seems cpk1  is rite
[03:04] <nichole> i dont see it
[03:04] <nichole> but there is indeed references in xserver-xorg
[03:04] <nichole> its directly referred to when you dpkg-reconfigure that
[03:04] <gdex|laptop> meh, i'm having troubles of my own
[03:04] <nichole> aww
[03:04] <nichole> wats wrong
[03:05] <gdex|laptop> my workstation has xrandr enabled, but all xrandr clients think it doesn't
[03:05] <nichole> some things i know some i dont
[03:05] <nichole> oi
[03:05] <nichole> did u make sure it has permissions for outside ip's ?
[03:05] <nichole> default is disabled i think
[03:05] <gdex|laptop> it's all local on there
[03:05] <nichole> eh
[03:05] <nichole> gl on that
[03:05] <nichole> i used vlc for video i think
[03:06] <BluesKaj> Howdy All! :)
[03:06] <nichole> hi :/
[03:06] <gdex|laptop> hm
[03:06] <nichole> welcome to the house of blues
[03:06] <gdex|laptop> my laptop doesn't have XRENDER, my workstation doesn't have XRANDR
[03:06] <gdex|laptop> perhaps double names confuse
[03:07] <BluesKaj> hehe yeah ...well i play drums in a blues band and my name rhymes with sky , Hence: "BluesKaj "
[03:07] <BluesKaj> euro spelling you see
[03:07] <nichole> brb
[03:08] <kristyon__> no joy
[03:08] <gdex|laptop> more things act weird :/
[03:08] <kristyon__> how do i setup a new mouse?
[03:08] <gdex|laptop> xvideo support has vanished as well
[03:30] <wilman> how to play a cd in linux?
[03:32] <Yaccin> audio cd?
[03:33] <Yaccin> @ wilman
[03:34] <wilman> yes
[03:34] <wilman> my amarok doesnt start anymore
[03:34] <wilman> and my kaffeine neither
[03:34] <wilman> they just dont start
[03:34] <Yaccin> KsCD
[03:35] <Yaccin> tried starting kaffeine/amarok from konsole?
[03:35] <wilman> no
[03:36] <Yaccin> :)
[03:36] <wilman> iam gonna try
[03:36] <Yaccin> on my laptop, kaffeine also dont starts... amarok still works
[03:36] <Yaccin> i installed xine-gui so i still can watch dvds there :)
[03:37] <Yaccin> but its strange, because i dont get any output on konsole...
[03:38] <B-Minus_> whats a good prog to convert large jpeg to smaller ones ?
[03:38] <B-Minus_> or even see raw pictures
[03:38] <Yaccin> krita?
[03:38] <wilman> hmmm
[03:38] <Jucato> krita, or gwenview or digikam with kipi-plugins installed probably
[03:38] <wilman> few days ago everything workt
[03:38] <B-Minus_> tnx
[03:39] <Yaccin> wilman: same here ... but only on the laptop
[03:39] <wilman> hmm strange
[03:39] <Yaccin> workstation everything works, except for 2 bugs :(
[03:40] <wilman> X Error: BadDevice, invalid or uninitialized input device 169
[03:40] <wilman>   Major opcode:  147
[03:40] <Yaccin> hmm
[03:41] <wilman> i think something with the sound card
[03:41] <Yaccin> i dont know :(
[03:41] <Yaccin> but sound works for me...
[03:42] <wilman> yep
[03:42] <wilman> me too
[03:44] <wilman> hmm other media player give a bad soundserver error
[03:44] <Yaccin> hmm
[03:49] <cox377> does anyone know where the system icons are stored?
[03:50] <pradeepto> hi
[03:50] <Jucato> cox377: /usr/share/icons for system/root installed icons, ~/.kde/share/icons for user installed ones
[03:50] <pradeepto> is there a deb repository for latest cmake?
[03:51] <Morbo> one ask.... How configure the CUPS ??????????
[03:53] <Hawkwind> !cups
[03:53] <ubotu> Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows
[03:53] <pradeepto> !cmake
[03:53] <ubotu> cmake: A cross-platform, open-source make system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.3-1ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 4980 kB, installed size 12028 kB
[03:53] <noaXess_kubuntu_> how can i recreate the sshd script in /etc/init.d/??
[03:54] <Hawkwind> noaXess_kubuntu_: You could probably apt-get remove ssh --purge and then reinstall it
[03:54] <Jucato> sudo apt-get install --reinstall ?
[03:54] <pradeepto> ummm is there a way I can get the latest cmake for Dapper?
[03:55] <noaXess_kubuntu_> Hawkwind: i hace removed openssh-server and reinstalled it.. but no script in /etc/init.d
[03:57] <wilman> how to change teh display refresh rate?
[04:03] <abattoir> wilman: SystemSettings->Display
[04:03] <Guardian> re
[04:03] <abattoir> *Monitor and Display, to be precise
[04:03] <Guardian> please, where should i put an entry so that a script of mine gets executed at boot time ?
[04:04] <LjL> Ubotu, please tell Guardian about boot
[04:05] <Jucato> ubotu's back?! yay!!!
[04:05] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about s back?! yay!!! - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[04:05] <LjL> Guardian, warning, will be executed as root
[04:05] <LjL> Jucato, why, didn't you like ubotwo? :P
[04:05] <Jucato> lol no!
[04:06] <Guardian> thx LjL
[04:06] <Guardian> is there an equivalent of bum that does not depend on gnome ?
[04:07] <LjL> Guardian, dunno, but if you just want to execute a script, i was thinking more /etc/rc.local than anything else
[04:07] <LjL> and, well.. update-rc.d :)
[04:08] <Guardian> ok thx
[04:11] <instructor> there should be a way to continue a burnt CD if interuppted :-(
[04:11] <LjL> instructor: can burners do that sort of thing at all?
[04:12] <instructor> LjL: No That's why I said there should be
[04:13] <LjL> instructor: i think that's not easy at all to implement in a burner
[04:13] <LjL> if at all possible
[04:14] <chris_> hello, *
[04:15] <chris_> So I've downloaded a couple of .deb files (I want to try the new Krita)... how do I install them?
[04:15] <chris_> All dselect, etc. seem to want to do is find a repository on the net.
[04:15] <Dr_willis> !apt
[04:15] <ubotu> apt is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto  -  Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)
[04:15] <Dr_willis> dpkg -i whatever.deb
[04:15] <chris_> Thanks!
[04:16] <Dr_willis> and hope your depenecncies are not going to conflict.
[04:16] <Jucato> chris_: the new Krita (KOffice 1.6) is available for Kubuntu Edgy through a special repository
[04:16] <cox377> just install ubuntu on someones computer, some really great icons and some really poor ones
[04:16] <chris_> Heh, of course they do :-)
[04:16] <wilman> yes this trick worked
[04:16] <cox377> kubuntu seems just to be good through out
[04:17] <cox377> but nothing spectacular
[04:17] <Dr_willis> what sort of spectacular thngs are you expecting........
[04:17] <chris_> jucato: Thanks, I'm just not brave enough to switch to Edgy just yet.  Maybe when my wife and daughter don't depend on the machine for school work :-)
[04:17] <Jucato> crashes, bugs, etc?
[04:18] <Jucato> chris_: let me correct that. KOffice 1.6 available for both Dapper and Edgy
[04:18] <chris_> Cool!
[04:18] <Jucato> chris_: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/koffice-16.php
[04:18] <chris_> Excellent, thanks!
[04:21] <BluesKaj> !backports
[04:21] <ubotu> If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[04:23] <instructor> LjL: cause if it has a file descriptor for the file system and you tell it that it's the same one that's been burnt onto the disc shouldn't it believe you?
[04:24] <LjL> instructor, it's more of a hardware problem i think. the burner isn't able to resume burning from the same exact location as when it stopped
[04:24] <LjL> instructor: try burning multi-session-or-whatever-they're-called CDs, and if you look at them under a lamp later, you'll notice there are gaps between the burns
[04:25] <instructor> LjL: Silly lazy engineers :)
[04:26] <instructor> In other news can I switch k3b t use sha1sum instead of md5sum?
[04:28] <instructor> hi raziel
[04:28] <raziel> hi
[04:30] <chx> i have two kubuntu machines, one has internet the other is being installed, so it does not yet have. they are connected via local lan though, i installed via net and rsynced most of the machine. how could I utilize the apt cache of the  'server' on the new machine? I would like to install pretty much the same packages (updates etc)
[04:31] <fdoving> chx: take a look at the 'apt-cacher' pacakge.
[04:32] <BluesKaj> !devede
[04:32] <ubotu> devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB
[04:34] <BluesKaj> !devede 2.6
[04:34] <ubotu> devede: Video DVD creator. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 2.1-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 243 kB, installed size 664 kB
[04:45] <chx> apt-cacher ?
[04:45] <chx> let me see
[04:49] <chx> oooooooooooooh  apt-cacher-import.pl.
[04:49] <chx> fdoving: thanks (and http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-set-up-a-repository-cache-with-apt-cacher-p2 is a Drupal site. Even better.)
[04:52] <Yaccin>  ive mounted a hdd to /media/MP3
[04:52] <Yaccin> now i have an icon for it on the desktop which i cant delete
[04:52] <Yaccin> :(
[05:01] <ijacek> hi :)
[05:02] <ijacek> i need czech IRC
[05:02] <fdoving> !cz
[05:02] <ubotu> esk uivatele dme, aby mluvili v kanle #ubuntu anglicky. esky je mono se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Dkujeme.
[05:03] <ijacek> thanx ;-)
[05:03] <intelikey> fg
[05:05] <intelikey> !netsplit
[05:05] <ubotu> netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like Freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit
[05:06] <CoRoNa> Hallo
[05:06] <dennister> g'morning all :)
[05:07] <intelikey> CoRoNa
[05:07] <intelikey> dennister
[05:07] <CoRoNa> Is anybody who speaks german online?
[05:07] <ehird> has anybody compiled RUDL here?
[05:07] <ehird> i get  error: invalid lvalue in assignment errors when make'ing
[05:07] <intelikey> !de | CoRoNa
[05:07] <ubotu> CoRoNa: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[05:08] <CoRoNa> thank you
[05:08] <intelikey> !b-e | CoRoNa
[05:08] <IA-Outdoors> anybody know if there is a cvs plugin for konqueror (ala TortoiseCVS)?
[05:08] <ubotu> CoRoNa: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:08] <dennister> how do i, at system boot-up, enable verbose screen messages using the escape key?
[05:10] <LjL> IA-Outdoors: there's a KIO slave for SVN, but i can't see one for CVS
[05:10] <LjL> then there's cervisia
[05:10] <LjL> !info cervisia
[05:10] <ubotu> cervisia: a graphical CVS front end for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.5-0ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 726 kB, installed size 1992 kB
[05:10] <intelikey> [esc]   select the boot option and  [E]   edit the kernel line  add   verbose vga=normal nosplash
[05:10] <DaSkreech> cvs is evil
[05:10] <kristyon__> how do i add a new mouse?
[05:10] <IA-Outdoors> LjL, yeah, looking into Cervisia
[05:10] <kristyon__> on a serial port?
[05:10] <intelikey> @ dennister ^
[05:10] <DaSkreech> How do I use a USB wireless adapter in Kubuntu?
[05:10] <dennister> ty intelikey
[05:11] <intelikey> !wifi
[05:11] <ubotu> Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[05:11] <dennister> but in which module or section?
[05:12] <intelikey> dennister the one you intend to boot....
[05:12] <intelikey> at the grub prompt of course
[05:12] <intelikey> or lilo   :)
[05:13] <scythe> you and your dang lilo intel :)
[05:13] <intelikey> scythe make grub able to boot a partitionless disk and i'll use it.
[05:13] <trappist> make it install on an xfs partition and I'll use it
[05:13] <scythe> hehe, pay for the education that allows me to program and I will consider it a done deal
[05:14] <intelikey> scythe but if you meet both of those requirements it wont be grub it will be a lilo hibird
[05:14] <trappist> heh.  $100,000 bugfix
[05:15] <scythe> trapist, why are you using xfs , just for curiosity
[05:15] <scythe> nah, a four year degree from taylor is only 80k
[05:15] <trappist> scythe: actually I'm not anymore, but grub gave me so much trouble when I was, it turned me off
[05:15] <dennister> intelikey: so i edit grub's menu.list? I think I see where you're referring to
[05:16] <dennister> hi Hawkwind :)
[05:16] <scythe> other than the humungus filesize,  what are the advatages of xfs (its really fast isnt it?)
[05:16] <dennister> guess what?!! i have mythtv working :)
[05:16] <scythe> you are a genious dennister :)
[05:16] <intelikey> dennister if you want the changes to be perminant yes.  but for a one time change just hit [esc]  at the grub boot prompt and edit there.
[05:16] <trappist> scythe: it's really, really good on a raid
[05:16] <dennister> <---dancing
[05:16] <trappist> scythe: also very stable
[05:17] <scythe> ahh, figures... it was designed for that environment
[05:17] <trappist> dennister: that's good stuff.  last time I did that it was really hard.
[05:17] <dennister> scythe: now, now...i'm a noob and they say mythtv is not for noobs
[05:17] <scythe> dennister, i have given up trying :)
[05:17] <dennister> well i wrastled with it long enuf, lol
[05:17] <trappist> dennister: it's like double plus not for noobs if you've got an ivtv card
[05:18] <dennister> and an ivtv card is what i have, too
[05:18] <trappist> dennister: in that case, congrats indeed :)
[05:18] <scythe> hehe... atleast I have a very old bt card (ati tv wonder)
[05:19] <trappist> scythe: those are a lot easier, what with not having to deal with firmware etc.
[05:19] <dennister> now i'm doing cleanups, making things permanent, available to all users...backups...lol
[05:19] <scythe> i know trapp....... and I still gave up :)
[05:19] <trappist> well the myth part is still hard... but you should be able to get the card working
[05:19] <scythe> intel, i only use it to record my tapes to hd, then to dvd
[05:20] <dennister> ok, back to my grub edit
[05:20] <dennister> <---likes information
[05:20] <trappist> scythe: I bet you could make money doing that if you tried
[05:20] <scythe> I dont have dialup or high speed on the computer with the capture card... makes it a bit more difficult
[05:20] <scythe> trapp you can make about 20 a disk if you are good, I am not
[05:22] <noaXess_kubuntu> my sshd script in /etc/init.d is gone :( how to recreate it?
[05:22] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Yeah but that's no help if I plugin a wireless adapter to the USB port and nothing happens
[05:22] <DaSkreech>  how do I assign it a network adapter alias?
[05:24] <intelikey> noaXess_kubuntu i would just use mc and navigate to the openssh-server*.deb into it and copy out the file  :)
[05:24] <intelikey> noaXess_kubuntu but you can just do a forced reinstall of the same.
[05:24] <noaXess_kubuntu> intelikey: where is this file?
[05:24] <trappist> noaXess_kubuntu: sudo apt-get install --reinstall openssh-server
[05:25] <intelikey> noaXess_kubuntu /var/cache/apt/archives  unless you clean out the cash regularly
[05:25] <noaXess_kubuntu> ok trappist.. will do that
[05:25] <noaXess_kubuntu> trappist: will the settings keeped?
[05:26] <intelikey> yeah a forced reinstall is probably easiest for you
[05:26] <DaSkreech> Nayone have a USB wireless adapter?
[05:26] <DaSkreech> Anyone?
[05:26] <noaXess_kubuntu> trappist: no sshd script in /etc/init.d :((
[05:26] <trappist> noaXess_kubuntu: back up your /etc/ssh to be safe
[05:26] <fdoving> DaSkreech: yes, i have.
[05:26] <trappist> noaXess_kubuntu: it should be ssh, not sshd
[05:26] <DaSkreech> fdoving: When you put it in the USB slot does it get an network alias?
[05:26] <intelikey> noaXess_kubuntu settings in /etc/ssh/*  you might want to backup.
[05:26] <noaXess_kubuntu> trappist: also no ssh..
[05:27] <fdoving> DaSkreech: not an alias, no, it picks up it's previous name (wlan0) and is brought up.
[05:27] <intelikey> noaXess_kubuntu install ssh
[05:28] <intelikey> !info ssh
[05:28] <ubotu> ssh: Secure shell client and server (transitional package). In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.3p2-5ubuntu1 (edgy), package size 1 kB, installed size 32 kB
[05:28] <intelikey> it's a meta package that depends on both openssh-client and openssh-server
[05:28] <DaSkreech> fdoving: The previous name?
[05:29] <DaSkreech> Where did that previous name come from?
[05:29] <noaXess_kubuntu> intelikey: ssh is allready installed..
[05:29] <fdoving> DaSkreech: when i put it in the first time, i get wlan0, second time wlan0. no aliasing, just real interfaces.
[05:30] <DaSkreech> fdoving: and it just gets that designation?
[05:30] <intelikey> oh wait.  that's edgy ?
[05:30] <ZmAY> does anybody know any station ripper program for linux
[05:30] <DaSkreech> Mine doesn't It comes upi under the USB as Belkin 54g adapter but no network interface
[05:30] <DaSkreech> streamripper?
[05:31] <Ayabara> do you guys use konqueror as your file manager?
[05:31] <scythe> ayabara, sometimes
[05:31] <noaXess_kubuntu> intelikey: no.. dapper
[05:31] <intelikey> edgy uses upstart in place of SysVinit   i don't know about the startup scripts, have they changed or are they still in /etc/init.d  ?
[05:31] <noaXess_kubuntu> intelikey: but i will extract it from the archoves .deb file..
[05:32] <intelikey> noaXess_kubuntu then yeah that's an easy way.
[05:32] <fdoving> DaSkreech: you might need firmware.. not sure. did you check the wifidocs wiki?
[05:32] <DaSkreech> If i reboot with the adapter in it gets a network name etc
[05:32] <DaSkreech>  but that's not helpful if sit jogs out or someone else needs it
[05:33] <scythe> any one have a clue why kaffeine would just die in the middle of the movie?
[05:33] <Ayabara> scythe, know of a hotkey to switch between panes in split view? I couldn't find one in 'configure shortcuts'. how do I make konqueror remember my layout (list view, split view ++)?
[05:34] <scythe> I dont use it that often, ayabra.. I usually use cli... I like the default view though...sorry I cant be of any help
[05:34] <intelikey> DaSkreech sounds like you need to find which startup script is setting that up and just run it if you insert the device.
[05:34] <DaSkreech> intelikey: Hmm never thought of that
[05:34] <ZmAY> DaSkreech: do you have streamripper, cause page is unavailable at the moment?
[05:34] <intelikey> DaSkreech like sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart    or something.
[05:34] <DaSkreech> ZmAY: I had years ago when it was maintained
[05:35] <DaSkreech> Thanks
[05:35] <noaXess_kubuntu> what ist the package ssh-krb5? if i want install it, then apt-get wants remove openssh-server, openssh-client and ssh
[05:35] <JanK> which is correct: "specialise on" or "specialise in" or is both correct in different situations?
[05:35] <Ayabara> scythe, np :-)
[05:36] <Ayabara> scythe, cli? command line?
[05:36] <scythe> yupp
[05:36] <blackflag> I have wine on edgy installed. But when I execute winecfg the window is to small to do something. How can I make the window greater so I can edit insite?
[05:36] <scythe> I just do all of my fs stuff from bash
[05:37] <blackflag> can someone help?
[05:38] <Ayabara> scythe, I do most stuff from konsole as well, but sometimes I like a gui to get a better overview
[05:38] <intelikey> noaXess_kubuntu i see what you mean    ssh-krb5: Conflicts: ssh    it's one or the other.
[05:38] <scythe> hehe, most of the stuff I do requires root... its easier to get root from cli, thats all
[05:39] <intelikey> !help
[05:39] <ubotu> I am ubotu, all-knowing infobot. You can browse my brain at http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots
[05:39] <Tm_T> intelikey: Did you mean...
[05:39] <Tm_T> !helpme
[05:39] <ubotu> Don't ask to ask a question. Just ask your question :)
[05:40] <intelikey> bah  there used to be a how to ask for help without saying can anyone help me....
[05:40] <intelikey> Tm_T that's the same as !ask
[05:40] <noaXess_kubuntu> intelikey: then i need to remove openssh-server/client and ssh.. and then install ssh-krb5?
[05:40] <Tm_T> intelikey: I see.
[05:41] <intelikey> noaXess_kubuntu i think the package manager will take care of the removal for you.   just install ssh-krb5 and see what it does.
[05:41] <noaXess_kubuntu> intelikey: okey..
[05:42] <beefsprocket> beefsprocket
[05:43] <intelikey> Tm_T there were a lot of "imo useful" infonodes until seveas started maintaining the data....   now it's pretty bare and lots of links to the same infonode.
[05:44] <Tm_T> :(
[05:45] <kristyon__> how do i add a new serial mouse
[05:45] <intelikey> but i'm sure there were reasons that it was deemed nessarry.
[05:45] <intelikey> kristyon__ to xorg ?
[05:45] <kristyon__> yes
[05:46] <intelikey> kristyon__ skill level ?
[05:46] <kristyon__> got a serial touch pad. advanced
[05:47] <intelikey> edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf add a second inputdevice mouse2 section
[05:47] <Seveas> intelikey, no useful factoids have been removed -- and I am not the only one maintaining the database. Stop the false accussations kthxbye
[05:47] <kristyon__>  wiill it be /dev/serial or tty0?
[05:47] <intelikey> kristyon__ or convert one of the wacom sections.
[05:48] <kristyon__> xp sees it as m$ sreial mouse
[05:48] <kristyon__> serial
[05:48] <intelikey> Seveas goes to openion of "useful"  i susspose.
[05:48] <kristyon__> scuse the typos, broke wrist, hence need for touchpad!!!!
[05:49] <scythe> trackball, thats all I gotta say for that one :)
[05:49] <kristyon__> no good, hurts like hell
[05:49] <Seveas> intelikey, 5 people who are active in #ubuntu transefered all factoids to the new db. If none of them found a certain factoid useful, chances are that it wasn't
[05:49] <Seveas> intelikey, and you can still attempt to add factoids, all such attempts are logged and the good factoids are added to the bot
[05:50] <intelikey> i didn't know you werent the only one.  on that my apologies
[05:50] <kristyon__> what will a ms srieal mouse on com1 (xp) need to be in xorg.conf?
[05:50] <dart1007> #u
[05:51] <scythe> kristyon. x might autoconfig it and recognize it
[05:51] <kristyon__> nope
[05:51] <dart1007> #ubuntu
[05:51] <Seveas> scythe, it won't
[05:51] <Seveas> serial mice are a pain
[05:51] <vikke> okay this may seem classic, but i got this while trying to configure wine: error: "C compiler cannot create executables", so if anyone could name all the packages i need for it to work :)
[05:51] <Seveas> !search serial
[05:51] <ubotu> Found: synce,mouse
[05:51] <Seveas> !mouse
[05:51] <ubotu> Enabling extra mouse buttons: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto  - Enabling serial mouse: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SerialMouseHowto
[05:51] <Seveas> !compiling | vikke
[05:51] <ubotu> vikke: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first: not all !repositories are enabled by default!)
[05:51] <kristyon__> thanks
[05:52] <intelikey> kristyon__ you can copy your xorg.conf and sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and setup the new mouse.  then copy out that mouse section to the now present xorg.conf and replace it.
[05:52] <intelikey> shouldn't take long.
[05:53] <kristyon__> thanks, thats what i was looking for.
[05:53] <kristyon__> anyone know if sax2 is going to be ported to ubuntu?
[05:54] <Seveas> kristyon__, it will most likely not be ported
[05:54] <Seveas> the only thing it would be useful for is X configuration, and X is fixing that upstream
[05:54] <scythe> isnt sax2 pretty much a suse only thing?
[05:55] <intelikey> scythe isn't suse open source  gnu  ...
[05:55] <Seveas> intelikey, not now that microsoft is involved
[05:55] <scythe> yes, but it still uses a lot of stuff that no one else is useing.
[05:56] <DaSkreech> Is there a KDE version of Write?
[05:56] <scythe> seveas . lol!
[05:56] <Seveas> DaSkreech, kate?
[05:56] <_Kiruwa> it's a matter of dependencies, mostly (when you talk of something being RH or suse only)
[05:56] <intelikey> is it no longer.... i'm behind i guess.
[05:56] <scythe> Da, kate, abiword, or openoffice.org
[05:57] <intelikey> kwrite also
[05:57] <scythe> ohh, missed a couple I did
[05:57] <_Kiruwa> DaSkreech: that's actually kinda funny... KDE gets teased for having too many text editors (kate, kedit, kwrite, kword)
[05:57] <_Kiruwa> it is a real problem though... it may take you a bit to find one you like :)
[05:57] <kristyon__> intelikey, i didn't get an option to select a serial port
[05:58] <intelikey> kristyon__ -plow
[05:58] <kristyon__> ?
[05:58] <intelikey> -p priority LOW
[05:58] <intelikey> it give more control
[05:58] <dennister> ok...rebooting...bbs
[05:59] <DaSkreech> No no I meant the command write
[05:59] <DaSkreech> It does have too many editors :)
[05:59] <DaSkreech> I could use them to stone birds out of trees
[05:59] <scythe> Daskreech... what does the command write do, I know only of it from routers
[06:00] <DaSkreech> can I login to a machine and if someone has mesg set to y can I send them a message from my user?
 No no I meant the command write <--- ?
[06:00] <DaSkreech> intelikey:  ---> Is there a KDE version of Write?
[06:00] <kristyon__> still no option for serial
[06:00] <schusti> sali
[06:01] <intelikey> DaSkreech what "write" ?
[06:01] <DaSkreech> scythe: It allows users to send each other messges on teh terminal
[06:01] <schusti> chan da au eine dtsch?
[06:01] <intelikey> from where ?
[06:01] <DaSkreech> !info write
[06:01] <ubotu> Package write does not exist in any distro I know
[06:01] <DaSkreech> Liar
[06:01] <scythe> like in net send in ms os's
[06:01] <schusti> hello
[06:01] <scythe> you might look at popper
[06:01] <_Kiruwa> DaSkreech: in that case... no... you're really kindof looking for either a front end to the write command
[06:01] <_Kiruwa> you can also look at samba (I think it can emulate the net send messages)
[06:01] <DaSkreech> _Kiruwa: Sure whateever as long as I can send a message
[06:02] <_Kiruwa> generally speaking... I suspect most of us use jabber/other IM clients
[06:02] <DaSkreech> !info popper
[06:02] <dennister> well, the verbose bootup worked, but everything went by way too fast to be useful...lol
[06:02] <ubotu> Package popper does not exist in any distro I know
[06:02] <dennister> how to slow it down?
[06:02] <dennister> or is there a log i can check?
[06:03] <intelikey> dennister just use dmesg
[06:03] <intelikey> type dmesg
[06:03] <dennister> ok...that's the same thing?
[06:03] <intelikey> to a point yes.
[06:04] <dennister> elaborate? how r they different?
[06:04] <DaSkreech> scythe: Eh?
[06:04] <scythe> there was a program, called popper or something like that... it worked like net send does
[06:04] <intelikey> it doesn't have the output form the init scripts if one or more of them are sending error messages and you wanted to see them....
[06:05] <scythe> im trying to find what it was really called
[06:05] <intelikey> but all the kernel message in the boot process are in dmesg
[06:06] <chx> i put panel on hiding , but now it does not unhide :( might be because of beryl... what could i do? edit some textfile... but which?
[06:06] <dennister> ok, and i do want to see the output from the init scripts...so back to my qeustion: how do i slow down the verbose or, even better, check a log of some kind?
[06:06] <Random_Transit> hey, can edgy run on x86-based macs??
[06:07] <intelikey> chx [alt] +[f2]  type kcontrol [enter]    and set your pannel to not hide.
[06:07] <intelikey> Random_Transit it's susposed to yes.
[06:08] <lupine_85> !nvidiabeta
[06:08] <ubotu> For Ubuntu 6.10 (Edgy Eft), you can obtain the (unsupported!) Beta version of the binary NVidia drivers by using one of these repositories: "deb http://amaranth.selfip.com/ edgy lrm" (for x86) or "deb http://ubuntu.lupine.me.uk/ edgy lrm-amd64" (for AMD64)
[06:08] <trappist> haven't those drivers been released now?
[06:08] <Markrazy> hey
[06:08] <lupine_85> I was just getting the datas
[06:09] <lupine_85> !info nvidia-glx
[06:09] <ubotu> nvidia-glx: NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 1.0.8776+2.6.17.6-1 (edgy), package size 3970 kB, installed size 12312 kB
[06:09] <trappist> lupine_85: I'm glad you did - I'm glad to know there are packages :)
[06:09] <Markrazy> i just burned the .iso file to a disk for the first time and was womndering if someone could answer a quick question?
[06:09] <lupine_85> they've been around for ages :p
[06:09] <chx> my panel!
[06:09] <lupine_85> spot my contribution!
[06:09] <chx> intelikey: thank you dear sir!
[06:09] <Markrazy> kbuntu
[06:09] <Markrazy> kubuntu question
[06:10] <Markrazy> anyone got a quick sec?
[06:10] <dennister> intelikey: I'm trying to finalize my init scripts and tweak them, so how do i check how they're working if verbose bootup is going by too fast?
[06:10] <scythe> you just missed it markrazy... ohh, there when another
[06:10] <scythe> just ask your question mark
 anyone got a quick sec? <--- is not a linux question.
[06:10] <Markrazy> k
[06:11] <intelikey> dennister have them output to a logfile ?
[06:11] <Markrazy> when i burned ubuntu to a cd all i had to do was put the cd in and boot up my machine and no prob.  when i do that with kubuntu it doesn't see it.
[06:12] <intelikey> dennister which release ?
[06:12] <dennister> yes, something like that...would it be syslog?
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Markrazy: Can You do a md5sum on the ISo
[06:12] <dennister> edgy
[06:12] <Markrazy> i dont know what md5sum is?
[06:12] <intelikey> dennister give me a sec.
[06:12] <dennister> k
[06:12] <DaSkreech> Markrazy: Are you in Linux?
[06:12] <Markrazy> i have the iso on my desktop ready to be burned again if needed.
[06:13] <Markrazy> right now i'm in windows
[06:13] <scythe> what program are you using to burn?
[06:13] <DaSkreech> ok google for md5sum.exe and save the file to your computer
[06:13] <scythe> nero can get you a md5
[06:13] <Markrazy> sonic, the same program i used with ubuntu and it worked no prob.
[06:13] <Markrazy> :/
[06:14] <scythe> well. could if had the right version and the moon is full behind venus
[06:14] <Markrazy> ok, i'll get that md5sum.exe app brb
[06:15] <intelikey> dennister see if you have a file /etc/lsb-base-logging.sh if so back it up.  and edit.
[06:15] <dennister> k
[06:15] <Markrazy> got it, now what
[06:17] <intelikey> dennister every "usplash_write"  to "tee"   and at the end of those linse " || true"  to  " /logfile  || true"
[06:18] <intelikey> that should give you a logging aparatos that will work after the root fs check.  but befor that it will probably error message.
[06:18] <DaSkreech> Markrazy: from the command line browse to the folder where you saved it (hopefully the desktop) and type md5sum isoname.iso
[06:18] <DaSkreech> Markrazy: Assuming the iso is also on your desktop :)
[06:18] <Markrazy> yep
[06:18] <Markrazy> brb
[06:20] <intelikey> dennister  i'm not familear with upstart, so i make no promises there.  but if it's not sufficent we'll try something else.
[06:20] <rag> hello *
[06:20] <intelikey> raq
[06:20] <DaSkreech> Markrazy: go to the site where you got the ISO and it should have a md5sum file
[06:21] <Markrazy> looks like there is a problem.  when i double click on md5sum.exe it flashes then dissappears.
[06:21] <ccherrett> anyone know how to test a webcam in kubuntu?
[06:21] <lupine_85> yeah, it's a console app
[06:21] <rag> do you know about Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init problems on kubuntu?
[06:21] <noaXess_kubuntu> i get: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key if i start my fresh installed ssh-krb5 deamon..
[06:21] <lupine_85> rag: the target filesystem is missing ubuntu
[06:21] <intelikey> raq edgy ?
[06:21] <noaXess_kubuntu> any hint?
[06:21] <lupine_85> or some very important parts of it, at any eate
[06:21] <rag> ccherrett: xawtv, aptitude install xawtv, then write on term xawtv
[06:22] <rag> lupine_85: how to fix it?
[06:22] <rag> lupine_85: there is not problem of grub, true?
[06:22] <intelikey> raq edgy doesn't use /sbin/init   is that an edgy system ?
[06:22] <rag> rag with g
[06:22] <rag> :)
[06:22] <lupine_85> intelikey: dpkg -L upstart
[06:23] <Ayabara> hmm. I'm almost sure that my volume is lower in kubuntu than it was in ubuntu, with all the settings in kmixer set right. anyone got an explanation for this?
[06:23] <lupine_85> what's in? oh, sbin/init
[06:23] <intelikey> lupine_85 does is symlink it ?
[06:23] <Bubba_Gump> :D
[06:23] <lupine_85> no
[06:23] <rag> intelikey: yeah , edgy! i dont know my user do , but system not start...
[06:23] <lupine_85> he's screwed it, basically
[06:23] <lupine_85> load up a live CD, rescue what you can
[06:24] <lupine_85> if you're lucky, a chroot'd apt-get install kubuntu-desktop will fix it
[06:24] <dennister> intelikey: i was looking at lsb-bae-logging.sh and its companion, /lib/lsb/init-functions, and feeling intimidated, but i've now scrolled up, and will implement ur suggestions
[06:24] <rag> lupine_85: already started with livecd
[06:24] <lupine_85> personally, however, I would start from scratch
[06:24] <DaSkreech> Markrazy: Oh no you have to do it from the terminal sorry
[06:24] <lupine_85> and what's on the drive? anything?
[06:24] <intelikey> sounds like an initramfs.img kernel pair that doesn't know about upstart.
[06:24] <DaSkreech> Markrazy: It's owrking fine
[06:24] <Markrazy> cool, it looks like they recommend a program called imgburn.  so i d/led it and now it's burning it.  that should make it bootable right?
[06:25] <rag> lupine_85: my problem now i chroot on target, but i cant reinstall ubuntu-minimal
[06:25] <lupine_85> intelikey: unlikely. very unlikely
[06:25] <Markrazy> i hope..lol
[06:25] <rag> lupine_85: because i havent network
[06:25] <lupine_85> rag: does /sbin/init exist?
[06:25] <rag> lupine_85: nooooo
[06:26] <rag> lupine_85: for it, i want install ubuntu-minimal, its ok?
[06:26] <lupine_85> does dpkg exist?
[06:26] <Markrazy> i just hope kubuntu installs my wireless card.
[06:26] <intelikey> raq does /sbin/fsck exist ?
[06:26] <rag> lupine_85: but ifconfig not works for mi
[06:26] <DaSkreech> Markrazy: Go to the download site to look for the MD5sums file
[06:26] <lupine_85> does dpkg exist? (obviously, bash/dash does, so the damage hopefully isn't too severe)
[06:27] <lupine_85> if it does, you can install upstart using that
[06:27] <lupine_85> rag: I really would start from scratch in your position, though. there's no telling what else has been done to the system
[06:28] <ccherrett> rag: ok that worked thanks
[06:28] <rag> Intelilkey: lupine_85: i dont know than my user do with system :(
[06:28] <ccherrett> I want to tie into the video conferencing at the local schoolboard using stack 6
[06:28] <rag> ccherrett: np
[06:28] <ccherrett> anyone know if that could be done in linux
[06:28] <lupine_85> rag: what's the output of "dpkg -v" ?
[06:28] <Markrazy> http://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/linux/ubuntu-releases/kubuntu/edgy/
[06:29] <Markrazy> thats all i see
[06:29] <lupine_85> erm, dpkg --version
[06:29] <rag> lupine_85: please start chroot, true?
[06:29] <lupine_85> yes, in the chroot
[06:29] <Markrazy> the md5 file is just text.
[06:29] <rag> lupine_85: dpkg works for me?
[06:29] <lupine_85> good
[06:30] <lupine_85> one second...
[06:30] <rag> lupine_85: use apt-cdrom?
[06:30] <lupine_85> does it exist?
[06:30] <lupine_85> btw, i386 or amd64 ?
[06:31] <intelikey> lupine_85 did he ever check if /sbin/upstart was there or not ?
[06:31] <lupine_85> it doesn't exist here, so why should it exist there?
[06:31] <Markrazy> alright, it worked. hanks bro!
[06:32] <Markrazy> thanks!
[06:32] <lupine_85> rag: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/upstart/ - download all the files ending i386.deb (assuming you're not running amd64)
[06:32] <slow-motion> hallo
[06:32] <lupine_85> then get them over to that computer somehow and, in the chroot, "dpkg -i *deb" in the directory they're in
[06:32] <lupine_85> if you're lucky, that'll fix it
[06:33] <lupine_85> at least, enough to allow you to boot
[06:33] <rag> lupine_85: is for me?
[06:33] <lupine_85> rag: yes
[06:34] <darkangel> hi somebody knows how can I join to unbuntu chanel? please I'm new
[06:34] <intelikey> !packages
[06:34] <ubotu> You can browse and search for Ubuntu packages using !Synaptic, !Adept, "apt-cache search <keywords>", the "apt:/" URL in KDE, or online at http://packages.ubuntu.com  -  Ubuntu has about 20000 packages available, so please *search* for an official package before installing things in awkward ways!
[06:34] <rag> lupine_85: ok thx , i use apt-cdrom add -d /media/cdrom0 for add cdrom my sources list
[06:34] <intelikey> darkangel /join #ubuntu
[06:34] <rag> lupine_85: now i run aptitude install ubuntu-minimal , is ok?
[06:35] <darkangel> thanks!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:35] <lupine_85> yeah, go for it
[06:35] <lupine_85> that's better than downloading and using dpkg :)
[06:35] <dennister> intelikey: ok, file is backed up and edited; will reboot
[06:35] <lupine_85> btw intelikey: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=%2Fsbin%2Fupstart&searchmode=searchfiles&version=edgy&arch=i386
[06:35] <lupine_85>  /sbin/upstart /does not exist/ in edgy
[06:37] <mauro> hi
[06:39] <rag> lupine_85: it say me , ubuntu-minimal not in cd
[06:39] <DaSkreech> can I get k3b to use sha1sum?
[06:39] <lupine_85> !info ubuntu-minimal edgy
[06:39] <ubotu> ubuntu-minimal: Minimal core of Ubuntu. In component main, is important. Version 1.30 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB
[06:39] <lupine_85> !info ubuntu-standard edgy
[06:39] <ubotu> ubuntu-standard: The Ubuntu standard system. In component main, is standard. Version 1.30 (edgy), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB
[06:40] <lupine_85> try ubuntu-standard
[06:40] <lupine_85> if that doesn't work, try apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop
[06:40] <rag> lupine_85: :( , user come soon ... :(
[06:40] <lupine_85> (the broad spectrum shot approach ;) 0
[06:40] <rag> ok thx
[06:41] <rag> nothing
[06:41] <lupine_85> so it's not installing?
[06:41] <rag> noo
[06:41] <lupine_85> (you did apt-get update first, right? :) )
[06:41] <Spudchat> is the kde program that allows you to edit the system services started at each run level installed by default?
[06:41] <rag> yeah
[06:41] <lupine_85> hmm
[06:42] <lupine_85> personally, I'd reinstall and tell him/her not to be so daft next time
[06:42] <rag> lupine_85: cd like good mount and add in sources.list
[06:42] <dennister> booted up fine again...now chich log can i check, if tee is a command?
[06:43] <rag> lupine_85: ifconfig command say me: Warning: cannot open /proc/net/dev
[06:43] <lupine_85> mm
[06:43] <lupine_85> you can config the net outsider of the chroot
[06:43] <lupine_85> otherwise (again outsider of the chroot) mount --bind /proc /path/to/chroot/proc
[06:44] <rag> lupine_85: first config network out root, ok try it
[06:45] <dennister> intelikey: now which log can i look at, since tee is a command?
[06:45] <rag> lupine_85: thx i have now network
[06:46] <intelikey> dennister /logfile
[06:46] <dennister> ty
[06:46] <DaSkreech> How can I check if dd is working?
[06:46] <rmm> who here knows much about kommander?
[06:46] <lupine_85> DaSkreech: send it a SIGHUP ?
[06:46] <lupine_85> monitor the size of of?
[06:47] <lupine_85> stop it and do the above, then start it again with the resume-from-position-x options ?
[06:47] <DaSkreech> It's stuck @ 485 Megs
[06:47] <lupine_85> if it's a CDROM, could be trying to read a difficult patch
[06:47] <lupine_85> but dd always wins through in the end
[06:48] <DaSkreech> What the hell is wrong with these DVDs
[06:48] <DaSkreech> this is the 4th one I've burnt and it works fine till I dd it then it becomes unreadable
[06:48] <intelikey> dennister note don't forget to undo that by replacing the backedup /etc/lsb-base-logging.sh   because that /logfile will grow unchecked indefinately.     mmmm you did set it  tee -a  didn't you.  hope you saw that.
[06:51] <rmm> so whats in the collection daskreech
[06:52] <ToyMan> anyone here get any of the 'N' type wireless cards to work in kubuntu yet?
[06:52] <dennister> intelikey: no, i didn't see the 'tee-a'  but i don't think it matters cause i can't find a /logfile anywhere anyway
[06:52] <DaSkreech> three computers two motherboards a stack of DVS that can apparently only be read once a Wifi USB dongle a Monitor a router a UPS 4 keyboars and two mice
[06:52] <rag> lupine_85: time to reboot :) i say you for my aptitude ubuntu-minimal rescue my system :)
[06:52] <rmm> not as far as i know
[06:52] <DaSkreech> all died within a few weeks of each other
[06:52] <DaSkreech> except the keyboards and mice
[06:53] <rmm> broadcom's usually the one developing those chips - and they're pretty closed in their driver development philosophy
[06:53] <dennister> or acutally...there are two connected to mysql, and then one /usr/sbin/split-logfile
[06:53] <DaSkreech> Oh wait I forgot those
[06:53] <DaSkreech> two monitors
[06:53] <rmm> lol i just downsized my entire collection
[06:54] <rmm> right now i'm just sittin in front of my thinkpad x22 - 3.1 lbs of pre-Lenovo goodness
[06:54] <rag> lupine_85: you know why not work katapult on edgy, my user love katapult but it not works on edgy...
[06:54] <lupine_85> no idea, I don't use it
[06:54] <rmm> from 3 monitors, 3 P-III workstations, so forth
[06:55] <soulrider> does anyone know of a program i can use ?
[06:55] <rag> lupine_85: system starting :) , now you know than ubuntu-minimal is magic :), thx for you support
[06:55] <soulrider> even if its command line that i can use to resize images
[06:55] <soulrider> and keep the aspect ratio
[06:56] <bluch> i have a question about cedega
[06:57] <rag> lupine_85: ubuntu-minimal rescue system!!!! :DDDDDD , its great
[06:58] <ivanoats> i have a blank desktop background after login... i've tried re-starting x server but it's still there, any ideas?
[06:59] <rag> ivanoats: lspci for i know what graphic card
[07:00] <ivanoats> rag - unknown device - i am running parrallels on macbook pro
[07:00] <rag> ivanoats: sorry, yet i dont try with mac
[07:00] <ivanoats> is there anything else I can look at, like a log file or try something else
[07:01] <ivanoats> maybe delete my session or something like that.. if that makes sense
[07:01] <dennister> gtg pps...since i've finally got mythtv working i'm going to enjoy it for a few hours :)
[07:02] <LeeJunFan> Anyone know what I'm missing to not have kde display config? Says the module is missing. What package is that in?
[07:03] <Dr_willis> which config are you refering to?
[07:05] <rag> lupine_85: thx , see you
[07:06] <Yaccin> whats the command for starting the program to start programs (alt + F2)?
[07:06] <Admiral_Chicago> !ask > bluch
[07:07] <Admiral_Chicago> Yaccin: yes that brings up run
[07:07] <tsdgeos> Yaccin: afaik it's not a program but a kdesktop funcionality
[07:07] <Admiral_Chicago> bbl
[07:07] <Yaccin> is there a possibility to bring up this window from konsole etc?
[07:08] <Yaccin> or to simply change the shortcut?
[07:09] <Admiral_Chicago> Yaccin: check system settings --keyboard and mouse --shorcut schemes -- global shortcuts --Desktop --run command
[07:10] <Yaccin> ah
[07:10] <Yaccin> thx
[07:10] <Yaccin> :)
[07:13] <soulrider> does anyone know where i can find the icons konqueror is using ?
[07:13] <soulrider> io wanna use the bookmark star icon
[07:15] <CVirus> soulrider: /usr/share/icons/
[07:20] <lupine_85>  /usr/share/icons
[07:20] <soulrider> thanks!
[07:25] <Rogue> Hello
[07:25] <jordan> hi all!
[07:26] <Bubba_Gump> is the plastic firefox 2.0 nuvola out yet ?
[07:26] <Rogue> Can anyone help with configureing the monitor in KDE?
[07:27] <krazeef> qui parle franais ici svp?
[07:27] <Dr_willis> Hmm...   Thai IT Minister Slams Open Source      -     Does any other country have an "IT Minister" ?
[07:28] <Rogue> Dr_willis: How are you?
[07:28] <Dr_willis> Just reading the news on slashdot and other places.. :)
[07:28] <Dr_willis> Its an interesting time for linux at the moment
[07:29] <Bubba_Gump> Dr_willis: whats happening ?
[07:29] <Dr_willis> Ive heard that the WOrld of Warcraft  guys have banned all accounts using "linux'  but cant find any confirmations. just 1 site/ artical.
[07:29] <jordan> can anybody tell me what should i do if my linux would not unpack any .tar.gz file?
[07:29] <jordan> pls!
[07:29] <Dr_willis> The Thai IT minister spewed some total  wrong info.
[07:30] <Dr_willis> jordan,  ANY? or just the .tar.gz ya got? how are youy trying to unpack it?
[07:30] <rag> please how to change keyboard layout
[07:30] <zorglu_> !fr | kraut
[07:30] <ubotu> kraut: Allez a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour de l'aide et de la discussion en francais.
[07:31] <jordan> well i downloaded 2 versions of mozilla and tried it by right click and unpack here and also in console mode
[07:31] <zorglu_> ok krazef is no more
[07:31] <kraut> zorglu_?
[07:31] <Dr_willis> jordan,  and the commands you used in the console was?
[07:31] <jordan> it unpacked it but with an arror message that it didn`t and it would not start up
[07:31] <kraut> !die | zorglu_
[07:31] <Dr_willis> Hmm
[07:31] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about die - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[07:31] <Rogue> Dr_willis: Got a min for a question?
[07:31] <zorglu_> kraut: sorry, just a nick completion issue
[07:31] <kraut> zorglu_: ah ;)
[07:31] <jordan> i got a pop up window
[07:31] <jordan> let me see - i`ll tell u in a sec :)
[07:32] <rag> how to keyboard layout, on ktouch program not works accents :(
[07:32] <Dr_willis> I like the 'unp' command. :)
[07:32] <Dr_willis> !unp
[07:32] <ubotu> unp: unpack (almost) everything with one command. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.10 (edgy), package size 9 kB, installed size 72 kB
[07:32] <Dr_willis> whats up Rogue
[07:32] <jordan> - `the extraction operation failed`
[07:32] <jordan> and a list of stuff under it
[07:33] <Dr_willis> jordan,  sounds like a bad archive. WHy are you even messing with the tar.gzs ?
[07:33] <rag> how to change layout keyboard please
[07:33] <Digital_Pioneer> How do I play MIDIs?
[07:33] <Rogue> Dr_willis: I installed the new edgy Kubuntu... 6.06 no problems... 6.10 got screen configured but everyting is blurry...
[07:33] <jordan> i`m trying to install firefox and that`s what i`ve found on mozilla.org for linux
[07:33] <zorglu_> gzip -t youfilename.tar.gz will tell you if the file is corrupted, jordan, Dr_willis
[07:34] <rag> jordan: aptitude install firefox :)
[07:34] <Digital_Pioneer> jordan: What's wrong with aptitude install?
[07:34] <jordan> how do i do that
[07:34] <Digital_Pioneer> jordan: Command line: sudo aptitude install firefox
[07:34] <Dr_willis> Rogue,  blury? you on a lcd or crt?
[07:34] <jordan> i just started using linux and not quite sure about everything
[07:34] <Digital_Pioneer> jordan: I know the feeling. :)
[07:35] <jordan> thx :) let me try that sudo
[07:35] <jordan> :)
[07:35] <Bubba_Gump> jordan, click K> Sytem> Adept
[07:35] <Digital_Pioneer> jordan: APT is your suite of package management.
[07:35] <Dr_willis> or course people wont read the stuff anyway.
[07:35] <Digital_Pioneer> Dr_willis: That's what this place is for! :D
[07:35] <Digital_Pioneer> Dr_willis: (Or what it's used for)
[07:36] <Rogue> dr
[07:36] <Dr_willis> Digital_Pioneer,  yea but it gets old  having to explain that you dont download 'self installing executables' :)
[07:36] <jordan> i got the adept manager - should i just search for firefox and install?
[07:36] <Rogue> Dr_willis: On a LCD
[07:36] <Digital_Pioneer> Dr_willis: You can. Ever try a .run?
[07:36] <Dr_willis> Digital_Pioneer,  i avoide them ehenever possiuble..
[07:36] <Digital_Pioneer> jordan: You could use Adept, but I prefer using the command line. Adept is just a frontend.
[07:36] <Dr_willis> Digital_Pioneer,  its AMAZING the # of times people ask 'how to i install a .run, or a .bin'
[07:37] <Dr_willis> !firefox
[07:37] <ubotu> firefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins
[07:37] <Dr_willis> !info firefox
[07:37] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 28588 kB
[07:37] <Digital_Pioneer> Dr_willis: Yeah, it's because they can't figure out they're binary executables.
[07:37] <jordan> all right - so do the sudo line then?
[07:37] <Digital_Pioneer> Dr_willis: I asked it once too.
[07:37] <Digital_Pioneer> jordan: Do you have root privs?
[07:37] <Dr_willis> its in main, so 'sudo apt-get install firefox' should  do it.
[07:38] <Digital_Pioneer> jordan: apt-get and aptitude both work. Aptitude is more picky though.
[07:38] <Dr_willis> Digital_Pioneer,  ive seen way too many STUPID .bin's that you run.. then they turn into the .rpm you install. after you enter YES to the eula. :)
[07:38] <jordan> ic
[07:38] <Digital_Pioneer> Dr_willis: I'm glad I've not run into one of those yet.
[07:38] <Digital_Pioneer> LOL
[07:38] <Dr_willis> Package Management 101. :) once you lern the Kubuntu way.. you dont want to go back.
[07:38] <Digital_Pioneer> HEAR HEAR!
[07:38] <Dr_willis> Digital_Pioneer,  it was SUNSs Java - from a year or 2 ago i recall...
[07:39] <Dr_willis> of course now Java is going GPL.. thats interesting news as well
[07:39] <Digital_Pioneer> Yeah, now I just agree straight from apt. :D
[07:39] <Rogue> But isn't the version in the Repo's of firefox different than what you install from Mozilla direct?
[07:39] <Dr_willis> the fact you HAVE to 'agree' is stupid. :)
[07:40] <Digital_Pioneer> Ick, deps unixodbc virtual package?
[07:40] <Rogue> I thought I read that Ubuntu mod's both Firefox and Thunderbird from the standard versions??
[07:41] <Digital_Pioneer> BTW, what are some good package repositories?
[07:41] <Digital_Pioneer> I need some more...
[07:41] <Dr_willis> Rogue,  theyve been known to do so in the past.
[07:41] <Dr_willis> Rogue,  so i wouldent be suprised
[07:41] <Digital_Pioneer> jordan: How's it coming?
[07:42] <Rogue> That was the reason I was told to get the versions from the web site to avoid issues...
[07:42] <Dr_willis> Rogue,  ive never seen/heard of any issues with the Ubuntu versions
[07:43] <Dr_willis> there was a version/security issue ages ago once.. but  that was a LONG time ago
[07:43] <Dr_willis> Ubuntu fixed a bug. but dident update the version #. since they backported the bug fix to the older version.
[07:43] <rag> jordan: on terminal
[07:43] <Rogue> Dr_willis: I am using an LCD monitor.  I have it working but everything is blurry... smuged like... readable but not sharp like normal
[07:43] <rag> jordan: aptitude install firefox
[07:44] <Digital_Pioneer> jordan: You've heard it from 3+ different directions. :) Do you have it yet?
[07:44] <Dr_willis> Rogue,  odd.. I always do clean installs myself. try some other window managers perhaps, see if its common with all of them. or just kde.  perhaps the Refresh rates are not right.
[07:44] <Digital_Pioneer> jordan: Depending on your sources.list, you may not be able to install it from APT until you get more repositories, but firefox should be present almost anywhere.
[07:45] <jordan> i see - thank you for your help
[07:46] <jordan> i really appreciate it :)
[07:46] <Digital_Pioneer> :)
[07:46] <Dr_willis> firefox is in main
[07:46] <Dr_willis> !info firefox
[07:46] <ubotu> firefox: lightweight web browser based on Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0+0dfsg-0ubuntu3 (edgy), package size 9001 kB, installed size 28588 kB
[07:46] <jordan> let me chck
[07:46] <Rogue> Dr_willis: It's frustrating...  all the  past versions of Kubuntu worked flawlessly.  This version not only miss idenified my monitor ( a dell 2001fp) that is listed but loaded the wrong driver so that I couldnt even run the live version
[07:47] <fdoving> which io scheduler do people use for laptops?
[07:47] <Digital_Pioneer> jordan: Also, you should know apt-cache search <subject> and apt-cache policy <package>. Those are useful too.
[07:47] <Digital_Pioneer> jordan: use apt-cache search to find packages, i.e. apt-cache search web browser
[07:47] <Digital_Pioneer> jordan: Use apt-cache policy to check the versions and installation status of packages, i.e. apt-cache policy firefox
[07:48] <Rogue> Dr_willis: I tried using my old xorg.conf and that killed Kubuntu from even loading up the desktopppp
[07:48] <jordan> adept manager did the trick!
[07:48] <jordan> thx a lot for helping :D:D
[07:48] <Dr_willis> Rogue,  this is whenit comes in handy knowing how X and xorg configure stuff. and how the drivers work.
[07:48] <Dr_willis> !adept
[07:48] <ubotu> adept is the Kubuntu package manager. Howto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AdeptHowto
[07:49] <Digital_Pioneer> jordan: Yeah, that it does. :) Good luck with your new Linux!
[07:49] <jordan> thx tho i might check beck
[07:49] <jordan> if i get lost again
[07:49] <jordan> c ya!
[07:49] <Digital_Pioneer> jordan: Well, it happens. :)
[07:50] <jordan> :)
[07:50] <Dr_willis> when in doubt READ the guides and docs at the kubuntu pages.
[07:50] <Dr_willis> :)
[07:50] <scion> hey!
[07:50] <jordan> see you!
[07:50] <Rogue> Dr_willis: Yea and a PHD to understand it and what crazy changes they make without telling you everytime a new update comes out.. like throwing darts .. hit or miss
[07:50] <scion> shankin that a$$
[07:50] <fribuntu> Hi all
[07:51] <scion> we all knew a groove armada song was gonna come out of that!
[07:52] <scion> is there any way i can make changes to aterm using .Xdefaults "on the fly" in kubuntu
[07:52] <scion> i need to restart x to see the changes and it is annoying!
[07:52] <fdoving> scion: yes, use 'xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults'
[07:53] <fdoving> scion: don't need the -merge actually. just 'xrdb ~/.Xdefaults' is enought.
[07:53] <Digital_Pioneer> Am I incorrect in feeling that if I can find it on packages.ubuntulinux.org, I should be able to find it in APT?
[07:53] <fdoving> -t
[07:53] <_Ace2016_> I need a program to wipe a disk with random data, can it be done on a single partition?
[07:53] <fdoving> Digital_Pioneer: find what?
[07:53] <_Ace2016_> Tenth Times the Charm  A man reformatted his hard drive not once, not twice, but ten times before he realized there was some valuable information he needed recovered. Luckily for him, it only took Ontrack one try to recover the information.
[07:54] <Digital_Pioneer> fdoving: What you find in packages.ubuntulinux.org and APT: packages. :)
[07:55] <_Ace2016_> yea so i want to wipe a partition
[07:55] <_Ace2016_> maybe he quick formatted it
[07:55] <Yaccin> anyone knows how to change the sidebar picture in the k-menu?
[07:56] <Digital_Pioneer> _Ace2016_: You want to format a partition?
[07:56] <scion> thank you fdoving
[07:56] <_Ace2016_> Digital_Pioneer: yea, with ramdom data, and like 30 times
[07:56] <Running_aim> hello..who can tell me the difference between beryl and xgl
[07:57] <Digital_Pioneer> _Ace2016_: Why with random data? I think formatting will pretty efficiently erase the data on the HDD.
[07:57] <Lynoure> Yaccin: Some kde art/theme page will probably have that information somewhere
[07:57] <Digital_Pioneer> _Ace2016_: If you're trying to hide something, just delete it. EXT3 will replace its binary on the HDD with 0's.
[07:57] <Digital_Pioneer> ;)
[07:57] <_Ace2016_> Digital_Pioneer: its xfs
[07:58] <Digital_Pioneer> _Ace2016_: Well, there's always QtParted.
[07:58] <Yaccin> Lynoure: it seems to be different in each distro -_-
[07:58] <Running_aim> anyone?
[07:58] <Digital_Pioneer> _Ace2016_: But that won't put random data on.
[07:58] <_Ace2016_> oh
[07:59] <delight> is there a way to get the glmatrix screensaver into the kde-screensaver dialogs ? I googled but could not find a solution ... just some ppl pointing to the same problem
[07:59] <delight> sort of
[07:59] <Digital_Pioneer> Running_aim: I haven't a clue, but if I were you, I'd ask my friend Wikipedia.
[07:59] <delight> :-)
[07:59] <Lynoure> Yaccin: the picture? Or how to change it? The latter would be weird
[07:59] <Running_aim> :)
[07:59] <Yaccin> where the picture is saved
[08:00] <Lynoure> Yaccin: then the location is probably in some kde configuration file
[08:01] <freewill> whats the command to delete something in the console?
[08:01] <freewill> uber noob question :P
[08:02] <mnoir> rm <something>
[08:02] <freewill> thx
[08:03] <Lynoure> Yaccin: I'd take a theme that changes it and look from that.
[08:05] <Dark_Vampire> !de
[08:05] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de
[08:05] <luca> hello
[08:15] <jpgeerets> hi folks
[08:15] <jpgeerets> i have a problem with my external usb drive
[08:15] <Bubba_Gump> :)
[08:15] <jpgeerets> when i switch it on
[08:15] <jpgeerets> it mounts
[08:15] <jpgeerets> but it says it is empty
[08:16] <jpgeerets> but, i know, there is 150Gb data on
[08:16] <jpgeerets> someone know how i can see and access the files?
[08:16] <jpgeerets> also same problem when i connect my dig.cam
[08:16] <THY733T> hi all,i've 2 machines
[08:16] <THY733T> first fresh install of edgy
[08:17] <THY733T> second upgraded from dapper
[08:17] <THY733T> the scenod one sees other machines on network as hostname.local
[08:17] <LeeJunFan> is it at all possible to run DRI with Xinerama with fglrx?
[08:17] <THY733T> the first one doesn't have a name resolving like this
[08:18] <jpgeerets> soomeone here know something about mine problem?
[08:18] <THY733T> jpgeerets : me?
[08:18] <jpgeerets> i hope... THY733T
[08:18] <chudd> Hi, I'm running Edgy and after a X crash and hard reboot I get the error "failed in buffer_read(fd): files list for package 'gsl_ref_html' ". I can't remove, purge, reinstall the package at all. Any ideas. Thanks in advance for any help :)
[08:21] <jpgeerets> its damnt quite here....
[08:26] <anika> idle
[08:29] <klerfayt> my konsole is broken; I can't change colors
[08:34] <dom> anybody here use a hex editor?  it's been ages, i don't even know what there would be in kde
[08:35] <vge> i want good hex editor ide too :)
[08:35] <vge> does eclipse have one?
[08:35] <chudd> Try khexedit
[08:36] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[08:36] <Keyseir> Does anyone know if it's possible to change to a regular text cursor in Kate instead of this text cursor thingie that selects a character and doesn't allow things like creating spaces inbetween two adjacent already entered characters?
[08:36] <dinosaur-rus> is there ctags package for Kubuntu?
[08:37] <dom> khexedit, oh hey, it's even installed already on my system, cool
[08:37] <Yaccin> how do i disable the backgroundimage in konqueror?
[08:38] <klerfayt> Yaccin: you mean opening page?
[08:38] <chudd> Keseir: this is really dumb thing to ask but is your insert mode set to "replace" rather than "insert". On my Kate version if I have accidentally hit the insert key (above the arrows) the cursor changes to a block and overwrites rather than inserting at the cursor position.
[08:39] <chudd> ...checking the simple things first :-)
[08:40] <chudd> Keyseir: any joy?
[08:41] <Yaccin> klerfayt: no, when im in file-browser mode
[08:41] <Yaccin> the gears
[08:41] <Keyseir> You misspelled my name, just reading now =)
[08:41] <Yaccin> i want to remove them ^^
[08:41] <chudd> oops - sorry ;-)
[08:41] <klerfayt> Yaccin: View>change background
[08:41] <Keyseir> How do I check my insert mode?
[08:42] <Keyseir> oh, insert key
[08:42] <Keyseir> Heh
[08:42] <Yaccin> thx
[08:42] <Keyseir> Yeah... That was it.
[08:42] <Keyseir> chudd: Thanks a bunch. You saved me untold turmoil.
[08:42] <chudd> Keyseir: cool. No worries.
[08:42] <Keyseir> chudd: =)
[08:43] <chudd> quit
[08:44] <schmidt> anybody upgraded from dapper to edgy?
[08:44] <chudd> ...darn IRC commands <embarrassed>
[08:44] <vge> schmidt: i did
[08:44] <schmidt> does that again deinstall all KDE progs?
[08:45] <vge> well, i didint loose my kde settings if that's what your asking
[08:45] <schmidt> vge: ok you kept your settings, but did your kmenu stay in place?
[08:45] <OOD> schmidt: a lot of programs are updated since edgy comes with KDE 3.5.5
[08:45] <vge> schmidt: nothing changed
[08:46] <vge> well, i just got my latpot buildin soundcards to work, i didint eaven remember i had those :)
[08:46] <vge> *laptop
[08:46] <schmidt> vge and OOD: any problems?
[08:46] <vge> you figure out the other typos ;)
[08:47] <vge> now i show my noobiness and ask, OOD?
[08:47] <OOD> i've had some some problems that i had to work out, it caused frustration but it's fine now
[08:48] <OOD> and i did a clean install
[08:49] <vge> well yes, some of my paggages were hold back, but nothing that could mess your system was broken
[08:49] <maverick> Anybody cud help me enabling my S-Video port on HP DV-5000 wiz intel VGA card ??!!
[08:49] <vge> might be problems if you have opera installed
[08:49] <schmidt> OOD: grrr, so you had to a clean install - thats like it was for me updating from breeezy to dapper...
[08:50] <schmidt> yeah, i had opera installed - but why would that matter?
[08:50] <vge> well, dont remember anymore what folder was it, but opera had some config files in there and some paggage could not install if that folder cound not be deleted
[08:51] <vge> so X failed to start, but nothing major ;)
[08:51] <chudd> Problem with I/O error on gsl-ref-html SOLVED: needed to run fsck on reboot.
[08:52] <OOD> schmidt: i didnt have to, but it's always safer to do a clean install, some people ender up with broken X settings when upgrading
[08:52] <anika> !w32codecs
[08:52] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[08:53] <vge> schmidt:  and eaven with clean install, you dont loose your KDE settings
[08:54] <schmidt> vge: how did you do that - did you have a separate home partition?
[08:54] <vge> allways
[08:54] <schmidt> vge: ah, now i understand...
[08:55] <vge> but i didint do reinstall
[08:59] <Gecko> Hey there. Is there any way to configure kde/kubuntu to do selective automounting? I don't want to automount my ipod, as I will need a special script to do that properly
[09:03] <Gecko> gah, this makes me crazy: I've specifically asked kde not to automount my ipod, but it gets automounted by default anyway, but the media loading thing doesn't show up...
[09:10] <anika> Gecko: I don't know
[09:10] <chudd> @Gecko: I have the same behaviour with an external HDD. It is an advantage for me but must be a pox for you. Can you edit the special IPOD mounting  script you mentioned so that it umounts the IPOD before it runs?
[09:10] <anika> That would be interesting. You don't want it to mount a class of hardware or just your ipod
[09:11] <Gecko> chudd: well, I haven't even set up that script yet (need to do some converting from hotplug to udev), so it's not using that right now
[09:11] <fdoving> Gecko: you can, but it's no easy graphical way of doing it as far as i know.
[09:11] <Gecko> fdoving: I've worked with unix for almost ten years now, so no worries about that :)
[09:14] <wabble> are there any gui tools for managing static ip's in wlans that can be used on edgy?
[09:14] <lupine_58> kcontrol ?
[09:15] <wabble> lupine_58: so setting static ip's in the network tools there work now?
[09:15] <lupine_58> it always worked here
[09:16] <wabble> lupine_58: with wireless cards? Never worked with older versions
[09:17] <lupine_58> AFAIK it's just a frontend to /etc/network/interfaces ... as it should be
[09:17] <chudd> I use knetworkmanager for the wlan on my laptop. Uses dhcp but I'm sure there's options in there for static IPs
[09:17] <Ace2016>  if i remove msttcorefonts will the fonts be deleted?
[09:18] <Ace2016> r is msttcorefonts a script that downloads the fonts for you?
[09:18] <Ace2016> s/r/or
[09:18] <wabble> lupine_58: well, the frontend wrote bad filesbefore..
[09:19] <lupine_58> I wouldn't know, as I always wrote them myself
[09:19] <wabble> ok
[09:20] <Gecko> Oh well, I'll just make some script that waits five seconds after ipod insertion and runs /usr/bin/eject /media/ipod :)
[09:24] <johey> Where do I find the old ICQ compatible Kopete that I can install in Edgy?
[09:25] <fdoving> !kopete-icq-fix
[09:25] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about kopete-icq-fix - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:25] <eilker> !xubuntu  > eilker
[09:25] <fdoving> !kopete-icq-aim
[09:25] <ubotu> Due to a bug within Kopete's AIM/ICQ plugin, Kopete will not connect correctly to AIM/ICQ. Working versions can be found at: http://ubuntu.lnix.net/misc/kopete-fix/
[09:25] <fdoving> johey: ^^
[09:31] <johey> fdoving: Aha, there there... Thanks! :D
[09:31] <anika> !flash
[09:31] <ubotu> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats
[09:31] <anika> !flash9
[09:31] <ubotu> You can download Flash Player 9 Beta here: http://seveas.imbrandon.com/dists/dapper-seveas/custom/ (replace dapper-seveas with edgy-seveas for Edgy) - Official Adobe page at http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer9.html
[09:31] <Hawkwind> !nvidia > Hawkwind
[09:31] <ehird> anyone noticed how reliable /dev/null is to save files to?
[09:32] <fdoving> ehird: great, did you ever figure out how to restore them?
[09:32] <ehird> fdoving: thats totally irrelievent, you know. i don't store files to access them or anything
[09:32] <fdoving> hehe :)
[09:33] <fdoving> ehird: nice for backup, saves alot of space. and old backups is always a pain :)
[09:33] <ehird> `sudo mv * /dev/null` :D
[09:34] <T3hWiz0rd> if I tell apache2 to stop, will it no longer start at bootup?
[09:36] <ehird> oh wait, /dev/full is so better
[09:37] <T3hWiz0rd> how do you tell linux to not boot something in startup? like apache2 and kdebluetooth?
[09:37] <bhughes_> update-rc.d
[09:37] <T3hWiz0rd> bhughes_: you talkint to me?
[09:37] <bhughes_> T3hWiz0rd: yes
[09:38] <T3hWiz0rd> bhughes_: so i'd type update-rc.d apache2 stop?
[09:38] <bhughes_> you type 'man update-rc.d', and it'll tell you how to do it :)
[09:38] <bhughes_>        Example of disabling a service:
[09:38] <bhughes_>           update-rc.d -f foobar remove
[09:39] <molok> hi!
[09:39] <anika> !java
[09:39] <ubotu> To install a Java compiler/interpreter on Ubuntu, look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java - For the Sun Java runtime install sun-java5-jre from the !Multiverse repository
[09:39] <wabble> !beer
[09:39] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about beer - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[09:39] <wabble> :S
[09:40] <T3hWiz0rd> bhughes_: yeah  Isee that, and then to readd it is simply the reverse command if I ever need it again eh?
[09:40] <molok> i'm having problems installing kubuntu in a asus P5VD1-X motherboard system, anybody knows about a bug or something?
[09:41] <bhughes_> T3hWiz0rd: according to the man page, yes
[09:41] <T3hWiz0rd> bhughes_: im reading the man page, i just like to ask lots of questions and be sure.
[09:41] <wabble> molok: try to disable onboard stuff from the bios
[09:41] <bhughes_> T3hWiz0rd: nod, i'm reading it too ;)
[09:41] <bhughes_>        Insert links using the defaults:
[09:41] <bhughes_>           update-rc.d foobar defaults
[09:42] <molok> wabble: i already try that
[09:42] <wabble> ok, no idea then..
[09:42] <ehird> would you believe it? "bash | nano" gives you a working interactive bash.. in nano
[09:42] <molok> i think it could be a problem with de VIA chipset
[09:42] <molok> but not shure
[09:43] <T3hWiz0rd> bhughes_: i am trying to speed up my kubuntu install by removing things that I don't really need that are starting up in boot
[09:44] <molok> the funny thing is that this system had a fecdora core 5 running ok, but fedora core 6 hangs at installation, so i switch to kubuntu
[09:44] <molok> and i found the same problem
[09:44] <bhughes_> T3hWiz0rd: sounds like a good idea
[09:44] <T3hWiz0rd> bhughes_: fdisk seems to run a check at startup evertime I boot kubuntu
[09:44] <T3hWiz0rd> anyway to disable that?
[09:45] <bhughes_> you mean fsck?
[09:45] <T3hWiz0rd> yeah
[09:45] <T3hWiz0rd> any way to remove that from boot up?
[09:45] <t0taln00b> hey all :D
[09:45] <T3hWiz0rd> simply remove it from update-rc.d?
[09:45] <bhughes_> T3hWiz0rd:  no, you can't, and you don't want to... consider what happens when you restart the machine if the power dies :)
[09:46] <T3hWiz0rd> bhughes_: well what type of services should I remove?
[09:46] <T3hWiz0rd> I removed apache2, i removed kdebluetoothd
[09:46] <bhughes_> *shrug*
[09:47] <T3hWiz0rd> how does fsck benefit the system?
[09:47] <bhughes_> look in /etc/rcN.d and see what you don't need, where N is your runlevel (probably 2, the 'runlevel' command will tell you)
[09:47] <bhughes_> it makes sure that filesystem is in a usable state
[09:48] <bhughes_> fsck = file system check
[09:48] <T3hWiz0rd> kubuntu is the only distro i know of that has done it so slowly at boot.
[09:49] <T3hWiz0rd> not to diss kubuntu in anyway, it just seems shocking.
[09:51] <slow-motion> n8
[10:09] <Zoelibactus> Namd
[10:16] <mae> can anyone help me with this: skype on amd64 edgy:
[10:16] <mae>  libXcursor.so.1 => not found
[10:16] <mae> libXft.so.2 => not found
[10:16] <mae> thats output of ldd
[10:16] <fdoving> mae: use apt:/ in konqueror, search for the files, and you'll find the names of the packages you need to install.
[10:17] <fdoving> mae: use the packages.ubuntu.com search box.
[10:24] <AV1611> debian-russian
[10:25] <mae> the problem is i need the 32 bit libraries
[10:25] <mae> not the 64 bit ones
[10:26] <Dheeraj_k> can any body provide me apt sources.lost file of kubuntu?
[10:26] <Dheeraj_k> sources.list
[10:26] <Admiral_Chicago> !easysource
[10:26] <ubotu> source-o-matic is a webpage where you can (re)generate your sources.list - http://www.ubuntu-nl.org/source-o-matic
[10:28] <Dheeraj_k> actually i want to install kde from kubuntu on ubuntu
[10:28] <Dheeraj_k> kubuntu cd
[10:28] <Admiral_Chicago> Dheeraj_k: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:29] <Dheeraj_k> wat i will have to enter in sources.list? to archive that?
[10:29] <AV1611> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop is really the only way
[10:29] <kosh> I am doing one of the weirdest kubuntu installs I think, the live cd won't run my graphics cards in vesa mode and vga mode is too small
[10:29] <kosh> so I am sshing into the machine from my laptop and running the installer that way  :)
[10:29] <AV1611> you have just to uncomment the following lines:
[10:29] <Admiral_Chicago> Dheeraj_k: no in a terminal
[10:30] <Dheeraj_k>  that will download desktop from net. but my net is dam slow
[10:30] <kosh> is there an actual cli installer for kubuntu?
[10:30] <Dheeraj_k> i am on gprs :(
[10:30] <OOD> kosh: the alternate cd
[10:30] <Dheeraj_k> i have got kubuntu cd
[10:30] <AV1611> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[10:30] <kosh> ok well so far this seems to be working,  remote X sure is nice, that is one of the major reasons I like unixes
[10:30] <OOD> that's as close as you get to a cli installer
[10:31] <JohnFlux> Hey all
[10:31] <JohnFlux> I need the 32bit version of libgnutls
[10:31] <Admiral_Chicago> Dheeraj_k: do youh have the kubuntu CD
[10:31] <JohnFlux> how can I get that so I can install it to /usr/lib32 ?
[10:31] <AV1611> then I think you just have to make sudo apt-cdrom add,
[10:32] <AV1611> then: apt-get update
[10:32] <AV1611> and then: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:32] <AV1611> I mean if you have got the kubuntu-alternate-cd
[10:32] <AV1611> this is your case
[10:33] <Dheeraj_k>  Admiral_Chicago: yes i have
[10:33] <kosh> so JohnFlux how are you doing?
[10:33] <JohnFlux> kosh: hey man
[10:33] <JohnFlux> kosh: thinking about working for google
[10:33] <Admiral_Chicago> Dheeraj_k: please paste your sources.list
[10:33] <JohnFlux> kosh: but.. just not feasible for me to move to america at the moment ;/
[10:34] <kosh> I just got a sweet new computer and I am setting it up now
[10:34] <Dheeraj_k> wat i have to paste?
[10:34] <Admiral_Chicago> !paste
[10:34] <ubotu> pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org (see also the #ubuntu channel topic)
[10:35] <Admiral_Chicago> in that link, please put your sources.list     you can find them in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:35] <AV1611> etc/apt/sources.list file
[10:35] <Dheeraj_k> i opened it on gedit
[10:36] <Dheeraj_k> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:36] <Dheeraj_k> now?
[10:36] <Admiral_Chicago> Dheeraj_k: in the paste bin page
[10:36] <velle> I have a question about how (and wether) to upgrade kde
[10:37] <kosh> JohnFlux, yeah I don't blame you, I am looking at moving out of the usa
[10:37] <AV1611> well, copy the whole file, please
[10:37] <kosh> JohnFlux, finland or something like that looks nice
[10:37] <JohnFlux> kosh: how come?
[10:37] <kosh> JohnFlux, other places are nicer
[10:38] <Dheeraj_k> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32195/
[10:38] <Admiral_Chicago> velle: ask
[10:39] <Admiral_Chicago> Dheeraj_k: okay just put the cd in and type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:39] <AV1611> there's nothing you got to change at< that file
[10:39] <AV1611> please, do this:
[10:39] <AV1611> sudo apt-get update
[10:40] <AV1611> sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:40] <Dheeraj_k> is any thing wrong in this list
[10:40] <Dheeraj_k> deb cdrom:[Kubuntu 6.06_Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531)] / dapper main restricted
[10:40] <AV1611> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:40] <Admiral_Chicago> no it's fine
[10:40] <velle> hmmm... my first problem is that I found a few minor bugs in kde and wanted to report them, but im not sure if i should report for KDE 3.5.2 when 3.5.5 is out, so i wanted to upgrade. I thought it could be done with apt-get but it seems not... why?
[10:40] <velle> i've got kubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake
[10:41] <AV1611> make sure that you're offline
[10:41] <AV1611> it will ask you to load in your kubuntu-cd
[10:41] <AV1611> and that's it
[10:41] <Dheeraj_k> getting error :( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/32196/
[10:41] <Admiral_Chicago> velle: well i would file the bug report becasue KDE is on many distros, it may affect other people
[10:41] <AV1611> what kind of error that is?
[10:42] <Dheeraj_k> Err cdrom://Kubuntu 6.06_Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531) dapper/main Packages
[10:42] <Dheeraj_k> Err cdrom://Kubuntu 6.06_Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531) dapper/restricted Packages
[10:42] <Admiral_Chicago> velle: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-355.php
[10:43] <Admiral_Chicago> add the first mirror to your sources.list and sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:43] <Dheeraj_k> how to fix this error?
[10:43] <Admiral_Chicago> make sure you have Riddell's key as well
[10:43] <AV1611> did you do sudo apt-cdrom add, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade?
[10:43] <sephrys> hey
[10:43] <sephrys> anyone know about ffmpeg with lame support?
[10:44] <sephrys> or can mencode take over where this left off?
[10:44] <velle> Admiral_Chicago: so what would be the normal way to keep my distro up to date? is it enough to do what adept suggests me to... in other words: do the rest of you also use kde 3.5.2 because its default in kubuntu or did you upgrade it somehow?
[10:44] <AV1611> otherwise do as Admiral tells you to
[10:44] <AV1611> but then you'll have to download that from the inet....
[10:45] <AV1611> i don;t know if you are at the unlimited inet connection....
[10:45] <Admiral_Chicago> velle: it's really a choice, i like the updated programs like amarok and such, but it's really a choice. I'm on 3.5.5 and smoe developers I know are as well
[10:46] <sephrys> whereis <windows.h> from?
[10:46] <sephrys> with the w32codec compile
[10:46] <sephrys> is that wine?
[10:46] <Admiral_Chicago> but others stay on 3.5.2 to smash bugs because some of them affect KDE all over, not just Kubuntu
[10:48] <trappist> Seveas: not exactly
[10:48] <trappist> Seveas: pretty sure that just tells mplayer how to read win32 dlls
[10:48] <trappist> mplayer or whoever
[10:49] <trappist> oops that was for sephrys
[10:49] <trappist> sorry Seveas :)
[10:52] <velle> Admiral_Chicago: nice to know that my bug reports are welcome, i will submit them now
[10:52] <Admiral_Chicago> let me see them, i might be help you with them
[10:54] <velle> oh... they are details, that I encounter because I rely 100% on keyboard, but if you want I will get back to you with them in a second?
[10:55] <Admiral_Chicago> sure
[10:57] <Admiral_Chicago> bbl
[10:58] <ehird> any ethernet modem will work out of the box in any linux distro right?
[11:00] <cntb> hi  Iwant to temporarily insert greek keyboard in KDE and switch it throu ALT SHIFT how can I do that ?
[11:00] <cntb> !xkb
[11:00] <ubotu> Sorry, I don't know anything about xkb - try searching on http://bots.ubuntulinux.nl/factoids.cgi
[11:04] <carol> hola
[11:10] <carol> hello
[11:10] <mehdi> join ubuntu-fr
[11:11] <carol> hi
[11:11] <user-land> hi carol
[11:11] <DFM> hi
[11:12] <mehdi> hi all
[11:12] <mehdi> can u help me to join ubuntu fr ?
[11:13] <ehird> no answers?
[11:15] <RawSewage> why wont kcron start certain .sh  ?
[11:15] <DFM> I am having a problem setting preferred apps in Kubuntu
[11:15] <RawSewage> Some of my .sh execute at the given times, while others dont
[11:16] <fribuntu> medi: Well, just join the channel. What is the problem?
[11:16] <fribuntu> mehdi: see above
[11:16] <DFM> I set them and the e-mail works but when I click a link Konqerer launches instead of Swiftfox
[11:16] <DFM> any one have any idea's why this is?
[11:16] <RawSewage> yes
[11:16] <Dheeraj_k> hi again
[11:16] <RawSewage> Go to System Settings
[11:16] <RawSewage> Default Apps
[11:16] <Dheeraj_k> apt is not installing kde from cd :(
[11:17] <RawSewage> Web Browser
[11:17] <fribuntu> DFM: I think it is a swiftfox setting, no? In firefox you had to tweak "about:config" to start anything on mailto:...
[11:17] <RawSewage> In the following browser:   type  swiftfox
[11:17] <Dheeraj_k> here is the error
[11:17] <Dheeraj_k>  Err cdrom://Kubuntu 6.06_Dapper Drake_ - Release i386 (20060531) dapper/restricted Packages
[11:17] <fribuntu> DFM: Oh, sorry. I thought you where talking about the other way round ... my bad!
[11:18] <Dheeraj_k> but it is able to take update from ubuntu cd
[11:18] <DFM> no sweat
[11:18] <RawSewage> why wont kcron start certain .sh  ?  Some of my .sh execute at the given times, while others dont
[11:18] <RawSewage> I have to click them manually for the .sh to execute
[11:18] <trappist> RawSewage: are all of them executable?
[11:18] <RawSewage> yes
[11:19] <RawSewage> it's weird
[11:19] <Dheeraj_k> did i missed any thing?
[11:19] <DFM> under system setting you have kde components, in there I set the default apps but it still launches Konqueror
[11:19] <DFM> when I click a link
[11:20] <DFM> I forgot to mention the links I am clicking are in e-mails that I am using t-bird to read
[11:20] <DFM> when I am viewing a page in fox and click a link everything is fine
[11:20] <RawSewage> DFM, maybe check in Thunderbird for default browser option
[11:21] <RawSewage> DFM, or try restarting
[11:21] <RawSewage> If you set default browser for swiftfox, then it should work
[11:21] <DFM> don't know why I didn't think of that. have done that have been trying to figure out for a few days now
[11:21] <trappist> DFM: you have to set a filetype association for html files
[11:22] <DFM> I have under system settings and it says all applications should honor it
[11:22] <DFM> Where do I do that?
[11:22] <DFM> under t-bird or in a config?
[11:22] <trappist> wherever you set up the file associations for kde
[11:24] <ehird> nothing?
[11:27] <carol> hi
[11:28] <mehdi> hi !!
[11:28] <lotfi> saha kho
[11:31] <user-land> mehdi, type this: /join #ubuntu-fr
[11:35] <mehdi> thinks !!
[11:47] <mrkris> Unsure why, but I can't seem to connect to NFS servers in kubuntu, but can just fine in Xubuntu and regular ubuntu. Is there a setting I have to configure? It just tells me "server is down"
[11:48] <trappist> mrkris: how are you trying to connect
[11:48] <mrkris> mount -t nfs 192.168.1.21:/export /mnt
[11:48] <trappist> works for me, and mount is no different in kubuntu than in xubuntu
[11:49] <trappist> any logs on the server side?
[11:49] <mrkris> lemme check
[11:50] <mrkris> I got it, stupid error on my end. my apologies
[11:53] <BluesKaj> anyone using devede26 here?
[12:08] <ivanoats> hi, after I log in to kubuntu - i have a blank desktop background and can't see the panel or anything else
[12:08] <arriesp> xao gnte
[12:10] <velle> Admiral_Chicago: hey, do you want to see the kubuntu and kde bugs i've written down